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>> had a small issue with. And then Jeff is

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coming from

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the mosquito abatement meeting as soon

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as he's finished.

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>> Um,

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[clears throat]

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welcome everybody. This is a combined

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work meeting of the Grantsville City

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Council and the Planning Commission. For

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the record, today's date is April 14th,

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2026, and the time is 7:02 p.m. This

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meeting is being held at the Grantsville

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City Council Chambers at 429 East Main

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Street, Grantsville, Utah, as well as

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electronically by Zoom. I am Mayor Heidi

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Hammond, and I will conduct a roll call.

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Council Member Thomas is not here at the

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moment. We will um add his name if he is

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able to arrive. Council member Williams

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is excused for the first half hour as he

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is attending another meeting. Council

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member Butler

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>> Council member Skinner

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>> Planning Commission Chair Moore

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>> Uh Commissioner Hill

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>> Commissioner Montgomery

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>> Commissioner Merrill here.

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>> Commissioner Molton here. Alternate

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not present. Um, if you would please

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join me in the pledge of allegiance.

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» I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. Thank you.

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The purpose of tonight's meeting is to

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hear presentations regarding the

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Grantsville City master plan and the

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proposed amendments to the park and

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transportation capital facilities plans

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impact fee facilities plans and the

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impact fee analysis. These are only

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presentation and discussion and no

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formal action will be made tonight or

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public comment taken. Uh, agenda item

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number one is a discussion regarding the

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Grantsville City Master Transportation

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Plan, including current conditions,

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future transportation needs, and

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potential improvements.

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» Thank you.

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>> I'm assuming that's my

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>> I think that's your cue. Yes. [laughter]

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>> I'm going to move these tall chairs so I

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>> are you wanting to plug in?

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>> You want to sit down and plug in or do

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you want to plug in?

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yeah, I'll stand up there. Actually,

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that's probably easier.

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» Planning Commission, you get to see my

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good side. Uh, council, you get to see

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my bad side. [clears throat] So,

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okay. First off, I'll go ahead and

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introduce myself. Um, I apologize. My

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counterpart that's norm normally with

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me, we got double booked tonight, so

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he's in Helper City tonight. Um, I got

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to draw the good straw and come to

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Grantsville. Um, I'm a clean farmer with

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Jones and Deville Engineering. We used

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to have an office in Tilla. We did close

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that office because we couldn't find

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anybody to to sit in it. Um, but we do

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Grantsville, Toilla County, um, Toilla

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headquarter office, which is in

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Richfield, um, Utah, down in central

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Utah, but we serve basically everywhere

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in in Utah, some in Colorado, and some

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transportation plan for the past about

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eight months. Um working through the

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model. The model is pretty intense here

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in the Twilla Tilla Valley. Um just to

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give you some background on myself and

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the work that we've done here, I did the

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Twilla County transportation master

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plan. We partnered with Methods

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Toilla Valley um transportation plan and

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West Bank study and that's who we used

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for the modeling piece of this study as

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well. Um [clears throat] so to give you

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some background, we started this study

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with data collection. We worked with

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UDOT. UD do just finished up their

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regional transportation plan here in the

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Twilla Valley as well. So, we used that

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process. Um, [clears throat] and I'm

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detail on that here in a few minutes. I

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apologize. It's been really windy in

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Richfield, so I my allergies have kicked

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up, so I'll be taking some water breaks

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here here and there. Um, so long long

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story short, we did data collection. We

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brought all the data that we got and

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brought it into a single spot. We then

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took and added our traffic counts that

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the roads. As you drove over those

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tubes, we counted each vehicle. We also

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classified each vehicle. So, we got the

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truck percentage that you guys um have

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on each road on the major roads. We

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didn't do every road. Um we also

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each road. And I'll show you the

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condition of each road here in a minute

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as well. And then we helped public works

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with a pavement plan for how to get your

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roads in better condition. I have that

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the bulk of the work that we did though

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was in the modeling and what happens in

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the years 2035, 204, 2045 and at full

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buildout. Um so I'm going to go through

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each one of these maps. This is the

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website that we created for you so you

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have a place to house your

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transportation plan. Um so I'm going to use this as the bulk of my

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presentation tonight. Um for the

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planning commission as well. This is an

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open discussion um with the council with

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planning commission. So if there are any

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questions just interrupt me um if

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somebody wouldn't mind if you guys just

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yell um so I can stop I won't be able to

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see you as well. Um

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All right. So, the website, and this is

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going to be available for the public. I

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openhouse in two weeks. I just put a

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poster up here in the front office. Um,

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we emailed Shelby. Did you get that

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email today? We emailed Shelby a flyer

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to post on Facebook. And then we also

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well to advertise that. Um, so the

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public openhouse will be held in two

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weeks. There's QR codes on the posters

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a phone. I will say that it's a lot

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for the study. gives a little bit of an

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overview of Grantsville itself and

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talking about the growth concerns and

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challenges that Grantsville is seeing

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data. Now, I have to put a caveat on

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this data. Um, because the census was

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quite a bit off. The reason being is we

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value that's probably a little low. Um

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population data here as well. Um the

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reason we don't put anything other than

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the census data on here is those are

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just projections. Um, and so we we we

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put this data in here as our base. Um,

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demand modeling that we do for the

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study, we don't use this data. We use um

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um with you. I'm going to breeze over

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these maps quickly and then we're going

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to come back and get into the fine

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details of each map itself. Um so, the

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roadway classification network um this

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the city. So the left hand side shows

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the current classification. So you'll

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highways as well. Uh the purple are

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major collectors. Those are typically

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city streets that have high volumes. The

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your current road network. On the right

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include local roads. We don't plan for

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every street within the city. We simply

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show the type of road that needs to go

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in to get traffic to go in and

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throughout the city and then we allow

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build out between those roads itself.

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about today and the questions that I

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have for the council and the planning

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>> Can you guys all see that? Okay. Do you

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Grab that. Shift it over.

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>> Do these Do you guys have screens?

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>> We all have screens. Oh, okay.

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But everyone in the gallery

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» now your neck won't be

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>> this is this proposal we have here on

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the right is that at 2050 or what year

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>> it's not [clears throat] sharing on the

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>> okay

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>> zoom meeting

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» do I need to do I need to log into Zoom

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>> um not typically but it's not sharing on

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the Zoom meeting person

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why that would

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Is there any way you could like X out of

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the legend just really quick on your end

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and just

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>> There you go. I think that was kind of

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helpful. Just

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>> right. I tried that and that out.

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» I'm just gonna try something really

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quick.

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>> Okay.

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» This website

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Well, it's not sharing his screen to

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Zoom and the people online if anybody's

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online. So, I'm trying to get it to

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>> I can log in as well if I need to.

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>> Do you would you mind and then that way

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I know it will work.

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>> Can you just send me the link?

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>> Yeah. Okay.

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>> We need to notify that um council member

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Williams has joined us. Thank you. Thank

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you.

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» Um, do you just want to scan that short

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code? There's that's all the

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While they're working through some of

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these technical things, I thought I

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might give you a little bit of

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background from a land use standpoint as

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to how this all plays in together. And um

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there are assumptions that are made with

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regard to the data that um you start

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with the the base population numbers and

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then you try to

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So you try to project out. Thank you.

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>> That was my voice like 20 million times.

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That was cool.

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>> Um you try to project out based on the

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anticipated growth, the um growth

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patterns and the current zoning as well

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as what uh could go in in those areas.

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We look at areas that are in the

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annexation plan. We look at areas that

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are nearby adjacent development and we

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try to put numbers to those things that

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um are both in keeping with what we've

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seen historically but also with uh what

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we're going to project out for the next

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20 30 50 100 years. None of us has a

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crystal ball obviously uh so we don't

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know exactly how and when these

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developments are going to come in and

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when this would fill in but uh the the

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conventional thinking is that if we

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don't ask for the right of way now when

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it comes time to [snorts]

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develop out these areas and we need that

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right of way if we haven't asked for it will never be there um I started work

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in Saratoga Springs almost 20 years ago

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and you would not have known 20 years

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ago what a mess it would be like in

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Saratoga Springs 20 years later. The

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roads that were in however uh on the

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plans then included some areas that had

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180 foot rideways. We're not asking for

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anything near that much here. Well,

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except for one road um which uh MLAN

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we'll get into. But um I just bring that

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up as a case study to point out that uh

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we're doing the best we can here and

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trying to plan for and project out where

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what these roads will need to look like

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and what network we're going to want to

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see

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for the next hundred years or or more.

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Um there are roads as you know

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historically that have been in place for

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thousands of years. The Romans were

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great road [clears throat] builders and

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a lot of their roads are still in use

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today obviously with repavement and

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other things. So, um just wanting to

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give you that context uh from a a land

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use standpoint and from a a

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transportation master plan perspective.

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This is where we're headed with these

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things and um so to turn it back over to

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you.

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>> Perfect. Thank you. [clears throat]

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» Okay. Um,

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this next tab, I'm going to breeze over

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these next three because they're um

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relatively

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um they're important but not as

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important for tonight's discussion.

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Let's see if I can get it to load.

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Okay. So, this next uh page that you see

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on the website is the roadway surface

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type map. So, we have asphalt, gravel,

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and dirt. This is how your UD do funds

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are allocated to the city for your uh SE

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road funding. So, your pave roads get a

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certain amount of money, your gravel

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roads get a certain amount of money, and

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then your dirt roads get a certain

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amount of money. We have pro provided

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the city with an update. So they can

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send that to UD do and get the most

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money they can get based on the current

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road mileage within the city.

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This next map is a average

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[clears throat] daily traffic map. So

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each of these blue dots that you see on

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the screen you can click on. This is

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where we put a traffic counter down with

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those two tubes that go across the

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roads. Um so the ADT is the average

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daily traffic. The AD weekday is the

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average daily traffic on the weekday.

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Um, then you can scroll down to the

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bottom

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and you can see

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all of your percentages of the types of

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vehicles that you're seeing on that

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road. So, for example, this passenger

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vehicle, you have 91% of those are

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passenger vehicles on that road. Um and

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then your heavy trucks um down here are

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3% of that total.

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So for each of those points, you can

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click on those. You can see the same

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data for those. And this [clears throat]

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is how we calibrated the model. So UD do

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has a regionwide model and we use this

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data to calibrate the model itself. So

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we make sure we have current data as a

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base point to start with the modeling

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piece.

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>> Can you go back to that? I'm sorry. Now

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I see the [clears throat] the legend

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there. Just kind of clear off those two.

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See that?

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>> Yeah.

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>> Straighten your

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>> Yeah.

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>> So main is obviously the heaviest

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travel. So you're not showing sheep.

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That's not

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>> I think it's the red one.

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>> Yeah, that's the red one.

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>> Which one was that?

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>> She blamed

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>> Oh,

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that one has 6700 vehicles on it during

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the weekday and just just over 5,000

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average.

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What is Main Street

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>> on the We didn't do Main Street on the U

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dot right away because you're not over

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that. But on the west side,

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>> you are 2000.

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>> Yeah.

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» And you can click on each of these

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points to see.

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>> Is that Dery? The one that's

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>> Yeah. Dery Street. So Dery

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East is the uh as the point.

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Oh, on this one.

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>> Yeah,

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>> this this [clears throat]

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question may come. You might be able to

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say just you're gonna answer it later,

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but yeah, as you look at this and your

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projections of what it's going to look

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like in the future, are you also giving

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recommendations on how the road should

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be constructed looking forward because

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obviously truck traffic is going to

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impact a road more, heavy traffic is

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going to impact the road more.

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>> Oh, you're talking like thicknesses,

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[clears throat]

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>> just how you build the road. So, if

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you're if you have more semi-tra, that's

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what tears up roads, not cars.

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>> Yeah. And so I'm just wondering if

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that's going to be part of the projected

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plan. So is the city's planning for,

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hey, this road going to get higher use

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and it's going to increase on heavy

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truck traffic, but we need to make sure

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it's built to the correct standards. We

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need to redo it.

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>> We don't specifically look at that. Um,

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we do look at the pavement condition and

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give you a treatment type to fix it. Um,

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but as far as the design of the road

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goes, that's that'll come when the

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design actually happens. When we do the

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pavement treatment type, we're

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estimating based on

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typical practice. So like if we do an

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overlay, we put 2 in on typically to

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help with the structure. But as far as

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the crosssections go, that's something

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that we talked about in our last

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meeting. Typically there's an ongoing um

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project after this to update those

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standards for the crosssections itself.

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>> Okay. Just out of curiosity, does

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anybody from the city happen to know

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that the traffic counts for Main Street?

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>> Yeah, if you give me

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>> Okay. I just was cur I'm just curious.

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[clears throat]

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>> Okay.

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>> I can pull that up.

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>> This might be old, but like 18,000 cards

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per day.

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>> 18,000. Okay.

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>> Might be a little bit outdated,

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>> but it's at least that.

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>> And I would guess Mormon Trail and Maine

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are the heaviest truck in the country.

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I would think so.

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» I don't know. The truck traffic would be

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pretty intense on Sheep Lane as well. I

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would

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>> I would think

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maybe

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It's going to take a minute to load.

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So, the last count on the east side was

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11,000.

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A lot of times we find these counts are

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not that accurate.

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» Yeah, 11,000 is what it's showing.

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You know when they did those counts?

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>> Um,

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this one's saying 2024.

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>> I'm just seeing they're different on the

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east side.

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» The same line.

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» Yeah, the east side see lower than that.

521
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>> Yeah, this is not right. Yeah.

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>> So, the problem with some of you do's

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data is the KMZ file they use sometimes

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doesn't get updated clearly.

525
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>> So, I cuz if if she plans getting 6,000,

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that highway is probably getting at

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least 12, I would think.

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>> Um,

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» yeah,

530
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>> thank you.

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>> So, there's a there's a gap there. This

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says 6,000 right there, and this says

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12.

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So,

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okay.

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This one I'll breeze over. This is

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a heat map for Grantsville. This takes

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all the state crash data and puts it

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into hotspots. So, for the city, you can

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take this, you can zoom in

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and see all the hot spots within the

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city. Of course, 90% of your crashes are

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going to probably be on the the main

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street, but you can see all the smaller

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crashes or smaller heat marks around the

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city as well. There's maybe a bad

547
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200
intersection there at Dery Street. Um,

548
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,520
>> we have picked these and we didn't need

549
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,679
you to tell us. [laughter]

550
00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:48,159
>> Probably high school's probably high.

551
00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:50,640
Yep. So, you can see all the little hot

552
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,000
spots um throughout the city. Um, I will

553
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,640
say these are only reported crashes. So

554
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,880
if they're not reported to the state,

555
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,110
they're not part of this data.

556
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:04,960
Um, this is your active transportation

557
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,600
map. All we did simply on this one is we

558
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,760
took your current active transportation

559
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,320
plan that you have and put it on the

560
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,760
website. So we had no part in

561
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,269
determining where these trails go.

562
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,679
Um, truck routes. Uh, this is a truck

563
00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:26,000
route map. Um, I will say we are going

564
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,480
to add the depot road on the south end

565
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,760
of the city on this. Um, but this is

566
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,440
what we've came up with for a truck

567
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,600
route map. Does anybody have any

568
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,840
comments or concerns about this one?

569
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,400
Um, I would think that Burmeister would

570
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,039
maybe be on included in that, but maybe

571
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:47,120
I mean I didn't look closely at what you

572
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,200
showed as truck traffic on Burmeister,

573
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,679
but

574
00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:51,840
>> it was about three. The hard part with

575
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,520
Burmeister right now is

576
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,240
>> that turn to get out of the city.

577
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,120
>> Um, once that's fixed, it's going to go

578
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,000
up.

579
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,799
>> Um,

580
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,200
>> or if that ever gets fixed,

581
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,080
>> I should say.

582
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,080
>> We as staff requested to pull Burmeister

583
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,600
off because of that turn.

584
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,120
>> Okay. Um, so I mean from

585
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,720
>> So you don't want it listed as truck

586
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,600
traffic. Got it.

587
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,640
>> So I mean

588
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,039
>> from Industrial

589
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,000
Parkway north, new truck traffic, but we

590
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,919
don't want them coming south

591
00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:21,279
>> into town that direction.

592
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:21,679
>> That way.

593
00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:22,080
>> Okay.

594
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,640
>> Um, but one road that we did want to add

595
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,240
is that North Army Depot road.

596
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,440
>> Yeah.

597
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,960
>> This one, right?

598
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,110
>> Yeah. Okay.

599
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,440
» Okay. Um,

600
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,149
Let me show you this really quick.

601
00:26:42,159 --> 00:26:45,760
So part of the study was also looking at

602
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,760
current conditions of the streets within

603
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,279
Grantsville City. Um

604
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,840
so we partnered with a company called

605
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,480
Violytics. They're an AI company based

606
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,640
out of Germany. They're backed by

607
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,480
Volkswagen. That's where their startup

608
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,320
money came from. Um, but what we do is

609
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,559
we mount a a phone in the windshield of

610
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,840
a car. Um, and it takes a picture every

611
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,960
10 ft. And what it's doing as it's going

612
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,880
down the road, it's picking up every

613
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,720
crack and every pothole, every different

614
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,360
type of distress within that picture.

615
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,400
And every picture gets rated and then

616
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,799
those pictures combine into a segment.

617
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,273
And each segment gets a segment score.

618
00:27:31,273 --> 00:27:32,320
[clears throat]

619
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,880
So what I'm showing you today is not me

620
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,960
telling you this is what condition your

621
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,039
roads are in. This is an unbiased

622
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:41,760
opinion on the condition of the roads

623
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,880
within Gransville.

624
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:56,470
So based on that assessment that we did,

625
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,200
these are the conditions of your oats.

626
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,360
So the more blue it is, the better it

627
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,760
is. Then it goes to green, then it goes

628
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,880
to more like a yellowish, then a orange,

629
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,840
and then a red. So your roads are

630
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,039
actually in pretty pretty decent shape.

631
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,640
Um,

632
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:20,399
I'm going to pull up the app

633
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:22,480
so we can zoom in on these a little

634
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:31,669
better.

635
00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:34,559
So this app the city staff has access to

636
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:37,679
as well. We just onboarded the city to

637
00:28:37,679 --> 00:28:39,600
be able to use the system in house as

638
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,880
well. Um but each one of these streets

639
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,960
has a condition to it. Um city staff has

640
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,159
access to all the image data that was

641
00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:52,159
collected as well. So, they can come in

642
00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:57,190
here

643
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,960
and you can drive down the street just

644
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,080
like you would Google Earth um with an

645
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,640
updated image. City staff also has um

646
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,279
all of the manholes, all the signs

647
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:15,350
within the city. So, I'll turn those on.

648
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,200
They have all the signage. We have all

649
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,279
of the different issues with signs. So,

650
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,039
for example, I can filter out hidden

651
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,279
signs and click on that. It will show me

652
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,200
a picture and show trees in front of

653
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,919
those um signs. So, I can go trim trees

654
00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:32,799
and stuff like that as well.

655
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,520
Um this is all automated simply by just

656
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320
driving the road and uploading images

657
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,350
and then it pops out into this system.

658
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,880
So, we took this data and we said,

659
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,559
"Okay, what is it going to take to get

660
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:52,880
the roads to stay in good condition

661
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,799
first and then fix the ones that are in

662
00:29:54,799 --> 00:30:01,590
poor condition?"

663
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,559
So, you can see on the map here the

664
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:07,520
different treatment types. Um, there's a

665
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,440
lot of different treatment types here.

666
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,279
So, there's a lot of different colors.

667
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,000
Um, but there's mill and fill and

668
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,335
overlay. Those are roads that

669
00:30:16,335 --> 00:30:17,440
[clears throat] are in fair condition

670
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,159
that just need a rehab to them. Um,

671
00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:22,480
crack seal. Um, those are roads that are

672
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,240
in good condition. We just want to make

673
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,120
sure we seal those cracks off from uh

674
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,039
allowing water to penetrate into the

675
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:32,720
base. Um, crack seal and chip seal.

676
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,320
those those are roads that are in good

677
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,480
condition but have their existing

678
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,000
surface asphalt surface exposed because

679
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,440
we don't want the sun to bake the

680
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,080
asphalt out of the asphalt mix. Um the

681
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,919
red roads are those that are in the

682
00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:53,520
worst shape and need the most help. Um

683
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,440
so we're recommending those to be fully

684
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,120
reconstructed

685
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480
um to mitigate for all the cracking

686
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,799
within those streets.

687
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,039
So for example, anybody want to look at

688
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:09,510
a certain road.

689
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,279
» It can be the one you live on if you

690
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:13,039
want.

691
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,559
>> This is unbiased. So

692
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:15,840
>> willow street.

693
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,240
>> Okay. You got to guide me there.

694
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,600
>> Right.

695
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,880
>> Yep.

696
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:27,110
>> Right. Okay. doing stuff.

697
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,679
» So you can see

698
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:30,799
>> right there.

699
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:31,360
>> This one.

700
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:39,750
>> Mhm.

701
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,640
» So the city staff can come in. They and

702
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,640
we can give access to really anybody.

703
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,519
It's just depending on who you want to

704
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:51,279
see this data. Um, we can go drive the

705
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,360
road and see.

706
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,799
>> This is only a couple weeks old, if

707
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:55,600
that.

708
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,399
>> Yeah,

709
00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:00,320
a couple days.

710
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,000
>> So, you can see the patching, some of

711
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,200
the patching that's gone on. Um, there's

712
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,760
some potholes cracking. You can zoom in

713
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,190
and see

714
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,919
um some of the longitudinal. Looks like

715
00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:17,200
there was a trench cut. Um and then you

716
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,240
can go in and see all of the manholes

717
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,360
itself on that [snorts] road and it will

718
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,159
tell you if those manholes are low, even

719
00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:30,000
or too high. Um so those can go be fixed

720
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,640
as well.

721
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,799
Um so this this data is on the on the

722
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,360
transportation plan simply more for

723
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,480
information for the public to say okay

724
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,320
these are the current conditions of the

725
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,799
roads. the this is our plan to fix the

726
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,000
roads. Um the hard part is convincing

727
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,799
the public that you should keep your

728
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,240
good roads in good condition and fix the

729
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,669
bad roads when you get funding for that.

730
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:02,640
» Yeah.

731
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,679
>> Did uh the

732
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:10,399
overlay get out to um highway 112 and

733
00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:13,360
shoot plane

734
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,600
>> uh this one. Yeah. The one. Yeah. One

735
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,279
east. That's one east southeast.

736
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:19,919
>> Yeah.

737
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:21,039
Okay.

738
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,240
>> That y

739
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,350
>> Yeah. Thank you.

740
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,563
» Okay.

741
00:33:29,563 --> 00:33:30,159
[snorts]

742
00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:34,399
This is where we get into um the phasing

743
00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:36,720
of the roads in order to take care of

744
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,799
the traffic that's coming to Gransville

745
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,240
as growth happens. So, we've got three

746
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,279
phases that we split this into. So,

747
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,480
phase one, um well, actually, let me let

748
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:56,070
me show you this first.

749
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,919
So, the right hand side is if we do

750
00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:00,559
nothing. The left hand side is if we do

751
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,240
something.

752
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,519
So, the right hand side shows if we

753
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:09,119
don't do anything in by 2035.

754
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,760
This is the condition of or the traffic

755
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,079
condition within Grantsville. So the red

756
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,399
means bad, yellow means moderate, green

757
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:19,200
means good. So if we do nothing and let

758
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,159
the city grow, these roads are going to

759
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,520
be failing, meaning you're going to have

760
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,919
bumperto-bumper traffic in those

761
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:31,119
sections of road um at that year. If we

762
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:32,960
add certain roads, which I'll show you

763
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,280
here in a second, if we build the roads

764
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,000
that we're proposing to be put in, then

765
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,159
this is the condition of those roads on

766
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:45,589
the left hand side.

767
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,950
2042,

768
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,119
same thing. If we do nothing on the

769
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:52,960
right hand side, this is what the

770
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,480
condition of those roads are going to be

771
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,879
as far as traffic goes. You can see some

772
00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:59,280
of these start to downgrade. But if we

773
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,680
add the roads that we're proposing in on

774
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,599
the left hand side, this is the

775
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,359
condition that you're in. And same thing

776
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:08,320
for the next one, 2050. And I could

777
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,880
probably just skip to 2050 on most of

778
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,760
these. Um,

779
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,400
if we did nothing, basically all of the

780
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,280
roads are failing that are high traffic

781
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,240
roads. And then if we add the roads

782
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,960
around the city and through the city,

783
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,040
we're looking like we're in pretty good

784
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,200
shape except for one piece of Main

785
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,200
Street. Um, which technically would have

786
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,440
to go to seven lanes in order in order

787
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,359
to fix that, which is going to be very

788
00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:39,040
hard because you have buildings on both

789
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,320
sides.

790
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,560
>> So what's a fail? What color is fail?

791
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,440
>> Failing is red.

792
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Dark red.

793
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,880
>> Hi. Could I make a comment and and I

794
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,320
have ask you a question?

795
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,960
>> Yeah.

796
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,920
>> So many of the roads directly north of

797
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,560
Grantsville that you have proposed there

798
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,800
are not in Grantsville city limits. Are

799
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,760
those plan county roads? Have you I mean

800
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,520
you said you worked on the county plan.

801
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,000
>> Yeah.

802
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,240
>> So I mean those are within our annexed

803
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:07,599
boundary. Yes.

804
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,400
>> We have not annexed officially that land

805
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,400
into the city yet. So, and that is

806
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,359
>> I guess my question is I mean that's all

807
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:18,000
fine and dandy, but um that's not part

808
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,800
of the city.

809
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,240
>> Correct. Currently, they're not

810
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:20,720
currently.

811
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:22,640
>> Yes. Well, we're looking in the future.

812
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,040
So,

813
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,920
>> I I see that.

814
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,440
>> Let's say let's we're anticipating that

815
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,839
annexation happening so that when it

816
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:32,400
happens that you've planned for the

817
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,720
traffic demand within the city or so.

818
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:41,760
Okay. The other thing to note is 90% of

819
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,000
these roads are only going to be built

820
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,480
by developers, which I'll get into here

821
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,160
in a minute as well. Um, some of these

822
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,079
roads are going to be city roads, but

823
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,240
the majority of them will be development

824
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,960
driven. So, if developers don't develop

825
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,760
or annex to develop within Grantsville

826
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,320
City, a lot of these roads won't happen,

827
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,040
nor will there need to be if the city

828
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,599
doesn't grow. But this

829
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:09,920
The anticipation is there will be growth

830
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,599
within the city or annexed and then

831
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:18,950
growth within the city that way.

832
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,040
» What's the typical life of a new

833
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,960
subdivision?

834
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,920
>> So you design it for 20 years. Um but

835
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,960
then you have to maintain it. So if you

836
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,200
maintain it, it can last forever. If you

837
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,119
don't maintain it, it'll go to gravel

838
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:34,960
again.

839
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,119
But

840
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:36,880
>> 20 years is

841
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,440
If you did nothing, 20 years is is where

842
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,040
you'd be. Yeah.

843
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,720
So, [clears throat] this tip list is

844
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,119
your transportation improvement plan.

845
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,960
So, the level of service over here looks

846
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,359
at the congestion within the city. The

847
00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:55,680
transportation improvement plan is the

848
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,680
roads that need to go in to fix the

849
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,000
issues with congestion within within the

850
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,880
city. So this coincides with what needs

851
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,000
to happen by 2035 with the growth

852
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,920
projections that are that are

853
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,960
anticipated between now and 2035.

854
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,599
So all the roads shown in yellow and red

855
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:17,040
are those um

856
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,520
roads that need to go in in order to

857
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,880
provide adequate uh transportation

858
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,320
access through the city. Um a lot of

859
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,160
these Oh, come on.

860
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,520
A lot of these are going to be developer

861
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,160
related. For example, this these outer

862
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,280
roads are all development driven.

863
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,280
This northern piece is development

864
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,320
driven. This uh this red road is

865
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,920
development driven. These yellow roads

866
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,839
are all road widening. So, a lot of

867
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:52,880
these are UD do. So, this one's UD do.

868
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,839
Um this one's U DOT. This might be a

869
00:38:55,839 --> 00:39:00,400
combination of uh city and county um and

870
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,680
then some city widenings as well as well

871
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,160
as county improvements too.

872
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,119
>> How much of that loop is actually

873
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:10,880
existing right now?

874
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,320
>> Uh which one? This

875
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,680
>> the red loop basically.

876
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,839
>> None of that. Yeah. [clears throat]

877
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:23,200
>> What is that yellow line? Is that south?

878
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,880
There's a portion of it that's existing.

879
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,720
Part of it's not Green Street.

880
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:27,040
>> Yes.

881
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,200
there is a portion right in there.

882
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,480
Yeah.

883
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,359
>> Starting here, it's non-existent.

884
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:36,480
>> Well, even even there, right there, that

885
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,000
cross-section where your cursor just

886
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,160
was, all that to the

887
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,800
>> east

888
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,359
>> to the east is all not non-existent as

889
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:43,680
well.

890
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,480
>> Willow Street.

891
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:44,800
>> Yeah.

892
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:50,230
>> Till you get to Willow. Yeah. [laughter]

893
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,320
But this western piece, nothing's in

894
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,630
that. [clears throat]

895
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,599
So if we same thing on the next one,

896
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:06,310
this is phase two going to 204 2042.

897
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,240
So these are the roads. The black roads

898
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,640
are the roads we just looked at. So the

899
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,480
2035 roads, 2042 roads are the ones in

900
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,400
yellow and red. So, this little piece um

901
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,320
just off of Maine would need to be

902
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,079
widened by UDOT. And then the red roads

903
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:26,400
would need to go in for adequate flow

904
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,280
through the city.

905
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,400
>> And that that red road at the bottom,

906
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,320
>> that's the depot road, correct? Okay.

907
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,670
>> Correct. Yep.

908
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,079
And the last one, this is that full

909
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,488
buildout, of course.

910
00:40:44,488 --> 00:40:46,480
>> [clears throat]

911
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,680
>> Basically, the rest of those collector

912
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,839
roads that we that are needed are shown

913
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:54,400
here. The black roads are the ones that

914
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,910
are in 2042 and 2035.

915
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,079
If you click on each of these, which is

916
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,040
this is a good segue into our next

917
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,550
discussion.

918
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,839
If you click on each of these, these

919
00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:13,520
this is the number of lanes that are

920
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,000
needed for the model to or for the

921
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,640
traffic to flow through the city. So a

922
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,280
three lane section is one lane in each

923
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,680
direction with a center turn lane. Two

924
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,640
lanes is one lane in each direction.

925
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,200
Five lanes is two lanes in both

926
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,920
directions and one center turn lane. So

927
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,079
if you click on each of these, you can

928
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,888
click on them and see

929
00:41:36,888 --> 00:41:38,000
[clears throat] the total number of

930
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,319
lanes required for the traffic to flow

931
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:44,560
through the city. Um

932
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,760
so the bulk of the discussion tonight,

933
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,800
I'm going to bring up three specific

934
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:59,430
locations that we need to talk about.

935
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,680
So down here on the west side

936
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,720
you have a heavy um density or we have a

937
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:12,720
heavy density of arterial roads which

938
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:17,520
are 108 ft wide um in this area. Based

939
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,079
on the modeling we did, most of the

940
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,079
roads in the city, basically all of the

941
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:25,280
city roads only need to be three lanes

942
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,640
or less. Um,

943
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,960
these green lines that we're showing are

944
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,200
five lanes. Um, so my recommendation or

945
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,359
the discussion tonight [clears throat]

946
00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:40,480
we need to discuss is do you want to

947
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,359
continue to see all of these be five

948
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:46,640
lane roads or do you anticipate or would

949
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,040
you like to look at some of those being

950
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,760
reduced to maybe a threelane corridor or

951
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,960
a two-lane corridor? Um, so

952
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,720
specifically, uh, Shelby, do you

953
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:00,640
remember did we we discussed this one

954
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,880
staying or was it this one?

955
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,280
>> Um, so Matt Canyon needs to stay Main

956
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,359
Street, um, which is that one is one

957
00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:09,040
that,

958
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,040
um, is variable, but you're never it's

959
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,319
going to be difficult to get the

960
00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:15,599
rightway back.

961
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,359
>> Yes. Because it's already shrunk down to

962
00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:19,200
two lanes in some areas, right?

963
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,560
>> So maybe the road doesn't need to be

964
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,440
built out to a five or seven lane road.

965
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,760
But if we have that right away, we can

966
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,000
always build wider

967
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,599
>> later on.

968
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,280
>> right?

969
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,560
>> And so that's why staff recommended to

970
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,160
keep those um arterial or larger rideway

971
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,520
widths. So in the event with the

972
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,839
anticipated development going up there,

973
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:48,950
we have the rightway widths.

974
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,280
It's a purchase of private property back

975
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,599
eminent domain to do the law of that

976
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:55,599
>> eminent domain and I mean structures

977
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,000
there then you're needing to tear down

978
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:05,109
structures or things like that.

979
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:08,400
» So specifically so this one has to stay

980
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,440
this green

981
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,240
>> the M canyon. Yeah, I would say so.

982
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:16,880
>> Main Street, there's portions of that neck down to 80 ft and then back up

983
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,920
to 108 ft. So, there's sections of this

984
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,400
one that kind of skinny up. Um,

985
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,480
there's also

986
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,800
a depot road that kind of loops all the

987
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,200
way around. These two are a little bit

988
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,839
close together [clears throat] to be

989
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:39,839
both minor arterials. Um

990
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:43,359
so it's really up to up for discussion

991
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:45,520
on

992
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,839
do you keep this high density of

993
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:51,680
arterials in this area. Um the only the

994
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,319
only thing that I would

995
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:56,720
um

996
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:59,280
you have to be careful with requiring

997
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,079
too much right away on every street um

998
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:06,480
because the modeling doesn't give you

999
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,839
justification necessarily to have that

1000
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:14,480
wide of a rideway. Um

1001
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,119
it doesn't hurt to get wider rightways.

1002
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:22,640
Um, but there's there's a

1003
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,119
chance that you could a developer could

1004
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:29,599
come to you and say, "Hey, you required

1005
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,280
too much right away. You should you got

1006
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,000
to give it back to me or pay me for it."

1007
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,640
Um, so that's a discussion for the

1008
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,040
council and planning commission to have

1009
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,720
tonight.

1010
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,720
And I don't know is your is your city

1011
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:46,960
attorney that Yeah. Is that you? Um is

1012
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,560
that the case?

1013
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,800
>> Yeah. So if we require larger ride

1014
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,960
ofways than then is necessary that would

1015
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,560
be considered a taking and we would need

1016
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,440
to compensate the developer for the

1017
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,599
required up size that we'd be looking

1018
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:00,800
for for a ride ofway.

1019
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,839
>> Right? So that's just one thing to

1020
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:06,319
consider tonight as we go. There's

1021
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:09,119
really three areas. There's this one and

1022
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:10,640
two others that I want to look at

1023
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,880
tonight. Um, with that,

1024
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,560
>> what's the minimum width of any of these

1025
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,839
roads?

1026
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:20,880
>> I think your smallest right away is 80.

1027
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,800
>> No, our smallest right away is 66.

1028
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,920
>> 66.

1029
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,670
>> Our max is

1030
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,920
» Yeah, I have some typical sections that

1031
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:35,829
we have drafted. Um,

1032
00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:38,880
yeah. So, this is your 66 foot rideway.

1033
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,710
This is what it looks like.

1034
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:46,160
This is your 90 foot. So this is what

1035
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,319
your collector streets would look like.

1036
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:51,599
And then this is what the arterial looks

1037
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:54,319
like. So you have five lanes at full

1038
00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:56,079
buildout

1039
00:46:56,079 --> 00:47:00,390
with parking.

1040
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,319
» What's the width of this one more time?

1041
00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:04,160
>> Uh this is 108 ft.

1042
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,000
>> That what about was the 60?

1043
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,160
>> Oh, this one's 90. And then

1044
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,800
uh

1045
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,760
66.

1046
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:23,430
>> This one only 66.

1047
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,662
» You said that 108 was it five lane? But

1048
00:47:26,662 --> 00:47:27,200
[clears throat]

1049
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,400
>> yes. So this picture is a little bit

1050
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,640
confusing because we cut it in half.

1051
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,440
>> Okay. So on the left hand side you're

1052
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,680
going to see if they don't build the

1053
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,680
full rideway all the way out. The right

1054
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,440
hand side is if they build it all the

1055
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,119
way out. So if they were to build both

1056
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,800
sides it would be mirrored

1057
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,000
>> on that side.

1058
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,950
>> Yep.

1059
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,550
Um,

1060
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,040
» and have you I guess ran this or

1061
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,359
coordinated who want to coordinate with

1062
00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:04,000
you?

1063
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:04,720
>> Yes.

1064
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:06,079
>> Have you coordinated with them? Yeah.

1065
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:07,520
>> In regards to this, I guess the one

1066
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,520
question I would bring up is in

1067
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,160
coordinating with this like

1068
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,839
>> we have the Mid Valley Highway and then

1069
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:15,280
the other highways, are they actually

1070
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,040
talking possibly a freeway that could

1071
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,960
loop around all the way down? I don't

1072
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,240
know. Beat us.

1073
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,720
>> I don't think that's part of that.

1074
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,359
>> That's not part of their plan currently.

1075
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:27,520
Um

1076
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,240
>> that I'm aware of. We have the mid

1077
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,400
valley.

1078
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,440
>> This one

1079
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,520
>> and talking with Travis Heron dot and

1080
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,839
working with Jeff debate that has been a

1081
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,720
discussion for Grantville itself.

1082
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,920
Quilla, yes, but not Grantsville on Mid

1083
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,119
Valley Highway in the long future may

1084
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:51,359
turn into a freeway, but they're not

1085
00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:52,960
anticipating that Grantsville will need

1086
00:48:52,960 --> 00:49:01,349
a freeway.

1087
00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:04,240
So, jumping back to this.

1088
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:09,030
Um,

1089
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,800
there are

1090
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,720
I mean,

1091
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,559
>> can you go back to that purple line that

1092
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:18,240
you were just barely on uh to your left?

1093
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:18,640
>> This one

1094
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,760
>> the dashed. Yes.

1095
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,760
>> Yeah. So,

1096
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,559
do we have homes in this area already

1097
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:27,680
that are

1098
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,160
not in

1099
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,760
>> Is that Walmart there? That

1100
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,839
>> Yes, that's Walmart. So, are there homes

1101
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:35,440
anywhere in that purple?

1102
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,160
>> No, there's like two homes to the east

1103
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,520
of it, but this is part of Sean

1104
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,800
Johnson's development.

1105
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,359
>> Okay. I'm talking more further um

1106
00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:45,920
further south, like nowhere in there.

1107
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Highlands,

1108
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,680
>> a bunch of town homes in there. Uh about

1109
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,200
where the green is, I think. Green and

1110
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,800
yellow, aren't there a bunch of top

1111
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,440
>> in here?

1112
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,240
>> No, there's not.

1113
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:55,680
>> There's still piece of that yellow green

1114
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:56,319
line.

1115
00:49:56,319 --> 00:49:58,480
>> Okay. So, nothing in in this area is

1116
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,520
built out. Northstar or Northstar Ranch.

1117
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,359
None of that is in here. Okay.

1118
00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:04,880
>> I mean, it'll be a part of it, but

1119
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,240
>> Right. But not yet.

1120
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,400
>> This little grade out area, you can see

1121
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,040
this is your annex limits currently.

1122
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,440
>> Okay.

1123
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,119
>> So, that's where your city limits are

1124
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:14,079
right now.

1125
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:15,599
>> So, the towns are back down on the

1126
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,920
highway. That's Yeah, I mean Sun is

1127
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,520
right there, but you're still not that

1128
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,200
far out. Northstar Ranch is south of

1129
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,960
there, but you're still

1130
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,880
>> still even inside that yellow line right

1131
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:25,280
there.

1132
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:32,150
>> Yeah, they're one way.

1133
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,520
» I guess that gives us a little

1134
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,440
perspective of how far up the bench

1135
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,599
these three

1136
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:43,430
roads will be. I guess [clears throat]

1137
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,119
» originally

1138
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:46,720
um

1139
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,400
there's a couple options. We can leave

1140
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,240
it the way it is. Um

1141
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,839
knowing that the lane configuration is

1142
00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:59,760
larger than what's needed. Um but there

1143
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,280
is that legal risk involved with that.

1144
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,880
Um,

1145
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,720
we can make a few changes to this. We

1146
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,280
talked about a few today in our meeting.

1147
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Um,

1148
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,280
we can change some of these uh colors so

1149
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,520
that they're more in line with the lane

1150
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,920
configurations that are in the model

1151
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,190
that we got. Um,

1152
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,880
I guess those are the only two options

1153
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,800
there. basically switch the lane

1154
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,640
configuration to match up with the model

1155
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,160
itself with a skinnier rideway or leave

1156
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,400
it get a bigger ride ofway and only

1157
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,520
build the lane configuration that you

1158
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,359
need.

1159
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:45,359
That's always my recommendation is to

1160
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:48,319
get more of the rightway width. Now,

1161
00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:52,319
even if you don't build out the full uh

1162
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:54,640
asphalt cross-section [clears throat]

1163
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,280
because in in 50 years or 100 years when

1164
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,040
you need the rightway, it's there and

1165
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,079
available. Not dissimilar to how our our

1166
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,079
current main street is right now. We

1167
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:06,880
have plenty of width right now to go out

1168
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,880
to five lanes if we needed to and if

1169
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,440
that day ever came. Um that's because

1170
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,760
our our forefathers had the the

1171
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,920
foresight to look at that and say this

1172
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,680
is going to be the main street. Let's

1173
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,040
make sure it's wide enough. So uh it can

1174
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,680
accommodate future growth. That's really

1175
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,520
what we're being tasked with

1176
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,270
anticipating right now.

1177
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,160
» Who maintains that no man's land in the

1178
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,720
meantime? I guess

1179
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,280
>> the city. Yeah, it doesn't probably get

1180
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,280
anything [clears throat] doesn't look

1181
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,960
pretty very good. I can see the

1182
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,200
future

1183
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,440
bearing, but also

1184
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,520
non-maintenance of all that rail that we

1185
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,280
ever use.

1186
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,200
>> And then your setbacks are off that

1187
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,720
wider rideway as well. So your houses

1188
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,520
are set back

1189
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,520
30 ft from that 108t rideway line.

1190
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,079
Well, you're you're North Depot Road and

1191
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,000
you come on that southwest quadrant. How

1192
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,760
what is your elevation gain to get up on

1193
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,280
that?

1194
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,680
It's

1195
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,920
>> And is there any talk for the council to

1196
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,079
annex that part of the

1197
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:21,440
>> county in

1198
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,079
our plan just approved it few weeks ago.

1199
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:30,079
So, we can't just go and annex land into

1200
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:32,720
requested has to be requested. So,

1201
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,559
>> well, just like with any any

1202
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,520
infrastructure project, if there are uh

1203
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,359
concerns like that, they'll have to be

1204
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:42,640
worked around and dealt with. These lines aren't necessarily intended

1205
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,599
to be survey level accurate, per se.

1206
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:47,520
They're intended to be guidelines as

1207
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,640
development happens in the area. Um,

1208
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,079
this is the ask is that we anticipate

1209
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:57,280
>> the need for these kinds of circulatory

1210
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,800
roadways.

1211
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,040
And if again, if we don't ask for it

1212
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,520
now, we can't ask for it later.

1213
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,480
>> Keep it wide.

1214
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,079
>> Yeah, I think we keep it wide. I mean,

1215
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,240
Sean Johnson's deal is going to be the

1216
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,319
same size as Grantsville. We only have

1217
00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:12,400
one road pretty much that width, Main

1218
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,720
Street, maybe Dery in some spots or

1219
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,440
Clark, but I mean, we've seen how busy

1220
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,000
that is already. So, I think we keep it

1221
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,960
wide, especially on that West bench.

1222
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,319
>> Absolutely. give them to north south,

1223
00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:29,920
you know, wide roads to use.

1224
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,119
>> Sounds great.

1225
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:32,960
>> Have you ever had a city say wish we had

1226
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,319
smaller roads?

1227
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:36,400
>> I doubt [laughter]

1228
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,160
>> the road crew does.

1229
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,319
>> Yeah.

1230
00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:42,319
I'd like you to go, if you would please,

1231
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:44,559
to the 33rd Parkway, which I don't know

1232
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:45,760
if you're familiar with.

1233
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,240
>> Yes, that is my next area that I wanted

1234
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,040
to look at.

1235
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,760
>> Thank you. [clears throat] Um, this is

1236
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,480
one that we've had countless discussions

1237
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,040
on between Shelby, myself, and other

1238
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,599
staff. Um,

1239
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:06,640
so this alignment from Mid Valley

1240
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Highway to about

1241
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:11,920
>> the triangle

1242
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,440
>> probably

1243
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,599
>> honestly probably to here because we're

1244
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,200
vested, right?

1245
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,280
>> Yeah. So I mean in the for Lake View

1246
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,400
business Business Park in the master

1247
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,400
development agreement, it's showing and

1248
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,240
outlines that Mid Valley Highway or 33rd

1249
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:29,280
Parkway will run to the north of them.

1250
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,960
But the county right now um has right

1251
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,599
away obtained where that triangle

1252
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,000
spot is

1253
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,680
to the east

1254
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,280
>> where it says Lake View.

1255
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,119
>> Yeah.

1256
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:43,760
No,

1257
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,520
>> this one

1258
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,839
>> up a little bit.

1259
00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:49,280
>> The triangle right here.

1260
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,720
>> That's the rail track.

1261
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:51,920
>> They have it up.

1262
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,680
>> This is where they have the right

1263
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,200
>> that's where their rightway that they've

1264
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,160
purchased ends. Correct. Okay.

1265
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,920
>> And then Huntsman's, that's this piece.

1266
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,880
Um

1267
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,920
>> Romney's

1268
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,760
>> Rom Romney's sorry. Romney's group from

1269
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,400
here to here is I don't know where

1270
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,640
property lands are exactly. All right.

1271
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,760
>> Um

1272
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,640
>> to the west.

1273
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,440
>> Is it somewhere in there?

1274
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,359
>> There. Yeah.

1275
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:23,839
>> Um so there their group basically

1276
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:27,520
um talking to Shelby. It is vested with

1277
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,400
the road being on the north side. Mhm.

1278
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,319
>> There is

1279
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:36,960
I would like to see this connecting to

1280
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,000
only because can actually go all

1281
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,920
the way through.

1282
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,240
Um whereas uh Dery Street

1283
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:48,720
>> gets cut off.

1284
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,280
But

1285
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,440
there are well the other issue with Dery

1286
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,040
Street is aligning these two

1287
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,040
intersections is going to prove

1288
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,400
difficult as far as a design goes.

1289
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,799
>> We had it we had it lined up before and

1290
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:07,119
we changed it.

1291
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:08,000
>> So

1292
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,119
>> Oh, you had it you had

1293
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,520
>> Yeah, we had it like that and Udoth

1294
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,440
wanted a perpendicular

1295
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,520
>> intersection right there. So that's why

1296
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,400
it goes up. That's

1297
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,160
>> why it got changed. Yep.

1298
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,280
>> Um, so to line those two up, it's

1299
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,040
possible, but there's some

1300
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,119
>> property is still there. It's just it's

1301
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:28,079
just sitting there.

1302
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:28,640
>> Yeah.

1303
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,720
>> To make those line up as you're

1304
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,920
discussing,

1305
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,520
>> but to make them a 90 degree

1306
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:34,880
intersection,

1307
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:35,839
>> that's going to be impossible.

1308
00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:36,720
>> That's going to be hard.

1309
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:37,280
>> Yeah.

1310
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,680
>> Which is what you do will most likely

1311
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,870
require.

1312
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,400
Something we discussed in the meeting

1313
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,240
today was potentially coming

1314
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,440
once you get to this point coming down

1315
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,480
crossing over following this dirt road

1316
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,760
and possibly connecting in here with

1317
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,680
33rd.

1318
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,000
Um or we can keep it on dury and

1319
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,720
somehow figure out that intersection.

1320
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,200
Um,

1321
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,040
those are really the two options that I

1322
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,079
wanted to talk about.

1323
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:15,280
>> I I was I guess I'm confused. I thought

1324
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,960
that

1325
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,640
I understood that the Romney wouldn't

1326
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,680
allow 33rd Parkway to go through the

1327
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,839
Lake View Business Park, but we have the

1328
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:26,720
ability to take it. It's on the north

1329
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,799
you said of

1330
00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:30,880
>> so in the master development agreement

1331
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,200
for Lake View business park their

1332
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,559
exhibits should 33rd Parkway and they

1333
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:38,319
reference that they get eight

1334
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:40,960
connections to 33rd Parkway to the north

1335
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,630
of their development.

1336
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,880
» So it needs to be reviewed and

1337
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,920
determined does 33rd Parkway go through?

1338
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,000
Is that what we want 33rd Parkway or do

1339
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,640
we want it to drop down to Green? We

1340
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,200
want it to connect into

1341
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,880
uh what is that? Keeps

1342
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,240
>> one of the biggest problems that you

1343
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,720
have though is crossing the tracks there

1344
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,520
and the tracks why right there at that

1345
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,400
triangle and it circles there are at

1346
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,000
least according to their plan. And so

1347
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,680
you're'll be crossing the tracks like

1348
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,240
three times right there

1349
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,920
or at least twice

1350
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,000
>> within a small window.

1351
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,160
>> They don't want to miss that.

1352
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,760
>> Are they going to bring it down this

1353
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,799
way? It's going to kind of circle.

1354
00:59:24,799 --> 00:59:25,119
>> Yeah.

1355
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:26,640
>> So, we're going to cross it here. And

1356
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,440
then again,

1357
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,960
>> I think you'll have to show him on the

1358
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,599
map because it kind of

1359
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:33,599
>> Shelby can get you their proposed plans

1360
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:35,031
on where they're putting their rail.

1361
00:59:35,031 --> 00:59:39,510
[clears throat]

1362
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,520
» This is a critical one.

1363
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,440
>> It is. It is critical

1364
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,760
>> because [snorts] part of this level of

1365
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:57,750
service map that we show here

1366
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,839
This is your current level of service

1367
00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:01,760
map.

1368
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,160
You can already see Highway 112's

1369
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,599
failing. Um, and east side of Main

1370
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:11,040
Street's already failing. Currently,

1371
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,079
we don't add in that east west

1372
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:16,160
connection. That's only going to get

1373
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:27,349
worse.

1374
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:30,640
So you can see we have it. We have that

1375
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,680
33rd Parkway coming in and that's what

1376
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,480
helps that highway one the highway 138.

1377
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:43,520
It helps decrease the traffic on that.

1378
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,680
But you're only crossing the rail twice.

1379
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,359
So where the little triangle rail area

1380
01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:52,480
is, you're only crossing [clears throat]

1381
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,640
that portion of the rail. And then as

1382
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,799
long as you stay to the north of it, you

1383
01:00:56,799 --> 01:01:01,270
don't cross it again.

1384
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,960
» So you're talking.

1385
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:12,309
>> So keep

1386
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:15,440
Yeah. So you would cross twice here and

1387
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,400
you can either come down and have it

1388
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,960
connect into here or we continue it and

1389
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,400
figure out going down there. But the

1390
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,640
rail splits here. So one two cross.

1391
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,280
>> So cross cross

1392
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,240
>> there

1393
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,559
at grade for now and then eventually

1394
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:36,559
it's going to be a bridge. You can

1395
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:38,480
either come down here and connect

1396
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:45,910
through or stay there.

1397
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,359
» From your from your experience, you

1398
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:49,760
talked about whether to go to Niger

1399
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,280
Street and I

1400
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,119
>> you got a little push for right for

1401
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:54,960
right angle intersections. Yeah.

1402
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,640
>> The cost to to re-engineer what we do

1403
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,240
there or taking property sounds like

1404
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,680
it'd be more complicated than trying to

1405
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,680
connect to N green. Is that what I'm

1406
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:02,799
about to say or

1407
01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:04,720
>> I mean you can do it with the right

1408
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,880
amount of money, right? Like

1409
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,559
>> costwise it'd be more cost effective to

1410
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,400
tie connect this to my network.

1411
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,559
>> Not necessarily cost effective. I'm more

1412
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:15,680
looking at it from a a grid network. So

1413
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,680
like

1414
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,093
instead if you connect in here, you're

1415
01:02:20,093 --> 01:02:21,760
[clears throat] sending everybody down

1416
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,280
to this point and it's stopping.

1417
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,440
Whereas if you send [clears throat]

1418
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,119
people to here, they can go all the way

1419
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:35,119
around the city and literally loop the

1420
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:40,079
whole city itself on that one road.

1421
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:41,200
>> If it was up to you, what would you

1422
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,960
pick? I'm curious. From a consultant

1423
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:43,440
perspective,

1424
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,680
>> I mean, from a from a traffic modeling

1425
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,040
perspective, the the Nag Green makes

1426
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,079
more sense, but

1427
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,153
there's politics involved as well.

1428
01:02:54,153 --> 01:02:55,440
[laughter]

1429
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,839
So yes, Jason, you're correct.

1430
01:02:57,839 --> 01:03:00,079
>> The other thing about Derky Street is

1431
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:02,000
that we have a bunch of existing

1432
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,920
residents, right? Where you get to night

1433
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,160
green, there are some but a lot less and

1434
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,440
it's more open country. So you can yeah

1435
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,480
do better planning and less impact to

1436
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:19,270
the street with res.

1437
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,640
You do have the school on N Green um

1438
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,319
which you can narrow down to a

1439
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:28,720
two-lane road through that piece and

1440
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,079
then widen back out to a to a threelane

1441
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:35,680
piece. Um

1442
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,480
but that you have a lot more flexibility

1443
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,400
with N [clears throat] green than you do

1444
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,319
on Dery itself.

1445
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:43,760
>> Well, Dury is already one of the

1446
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,240
heaviest traffic roads right there.

1447
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,828
>> Yeah. Yep.

1448
01:03:49,828 --> 01:03:53,430
>> [clears throat]

1449
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,720
» So I can draw it coming down

1450
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,440
crossing over here.

1451
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,200
Or

1452
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,760
I mean if it's an option still it sounds

1453
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,200
like it's not an option to go through

1454
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,230
their property though, right?

1455
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,200
» The politics we want to play. Okay.

1456
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,079
>> I guess I'll leave the politics uh up to

1457
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:18,559
the politicians.

1458
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:20,640
Um, if you want to try and push it

1459
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,559
through their property, we can draw it

1460
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:25,854
like that. Or we can try

1461
01:04:25,854 --> 01:04:27,920
[clears throat] drawing it through on

1462
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,680
the west side of their property coming

1463
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:30,799
down.

1464
01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:32,720
>> What about right there? That triangle go

1465
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,200
back up coming off right there and just

1466
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,640
coming straight. You're you're

1467
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,240
perpendicular to right there.

1468
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,559
>> Right there. And then coming across.

1469
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:44,150
Yeah.

1470
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,280
» Seems [clears throat] like only real

1471
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,359
option.

1472
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:56,950
Or we can leave it how it show.

1473
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,160
» Either way, McLean, it sounds like you

1474
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,079
got to do something with 112 and Dury

1475
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,400
connection regardless of where you make

1476
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,240
the 33rd connection on 112.

1477
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,839
>> Yeah.

1478
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:09,599
That close to Derby. It's going to just

1479
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,200
be a bottleneck.

1480
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,319
>> Can't believe there's not been more

1481
01:05:12,319 --> 01:05:15,599
accidents right there on ve.

1482
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:18,559
Yeah.

1483
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:21,359
>> Knock on wood. [laughter]

1484
01:05:21,359 --> 01:05:34,230
>> There was a death there while ago.

1485
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,595
It's a little hot spot, but not too

1486
01:05:36,595 --> 01:05:40,160
[clears throat] not too bad. Any

1487
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:46,150
thoughts?

1488
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,520
» I'd like the night green.

1489
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,480
>> Bring it down.

1490
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,000
>> I agree.

1491
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:52,960
>> Okay.

1492
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,559
>> You were talking about the width of the

1493
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:57,440
road in front of the school affecting it

1494
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,640
is 90 ft currently. So,

1495
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,079
>> okay.

1496
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:03,920
>> It's [clears throat] already what we

1497
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:04,720
need it to be.

1498
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:05,920
>> Okay.

1499
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,400
>> So, that's that's done. But I also agree

1500
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,480
that dealing with that intersection of

1501
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,359
Dery Street crossing

1502
01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:18,319
112 is something that has to be

1503
01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:19,680
>> probably going to happen.

1504
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,750
>> Yes.

1505
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,640
» On the east side or the west side

1506
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,839
>> of 112.

1507
01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:28,400
>> Yeah.

1508
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,400
>> I I think that it just is going to need

1509
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,920
to cross in some

1510
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,000
whether it connects to the 33rd Parkway.

1511
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,200
I don't know. But I just think you're

1512
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,880
going to get a bottleneck of traffic of

1513
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,599
people trying to get to the 33rd Parkway

1514
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,280
from Dery Street.

1515
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,599
>> Right.

1516
01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:48,480
>> Yeah. If a connection doesn't happen

1517
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,240
there,

1518
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,160
they would have to come up

1519
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,960
>> and then turn and come out,

1520
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,119
>> which would which isn't a crisis. I just

1521
01:06:57,119 --> 01:06:58,960
know how

1522
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,359
our nature is to find the path of least

1523
01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:04,960
resistance and and and the shortest path

1524
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,119
as the crow flies. And so we're going to

1525
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:10,240
I just can imagine that could be

1526
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,480
>> What do you proposing a tunnel?

1527
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,960
>> Yes, I'd like a tunnel. A subway a

1528
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,039
subway starting [laughter]

1529
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:18,640
>> an underpass.

1530
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,079
>> Could they do a right in right out on

1531
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:21,520
that coming in that side? So you would

1532
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:22,799
it would wouldn't be a full

1533
01:07:22,799 --> 01:07:24,480
intersection, but it would allow people

1534
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,119
to access 112 right there without having

1535
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:28,880
to totally make it congested because

1536
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:29,920
you're not going to be able to have two

1537
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,280
intersections that are offset. You don't

1538
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,440
want to allow that.

1539
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,240
>> No,

1540
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,280
>> I'm surprised they've let it fly right

1541
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,240
out.

1542
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,880
>> That's an option as well. I mean, I

1543
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,960
>> you could do a large roundabout, too.

1544
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:43,599
>> I like that.

1545
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:46,240
>> That name [laughter] was an offset

1546
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:46,640
geometry.

1547
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,359
>> I knew that was coming. see a hot

1548
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:53,270
roundabout Europe [laughter]

1549
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,760
five roundabouts in the city

1550
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,031
proposing that [laughter]

1551
01:08:00,041 --> 01:08:01,359
[clears throat]

1552
01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:04,480
>> um what I'll do is I'll uh clean this

1553
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,760
up. I'll bring this down probably cross

1554
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,079
it um and then still show a connection

1555
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:14,960
connecting in. You have to cross it at

1556
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:15,680
the

1557
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,560
>> at the at this light at the signal sites

1558
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,239
that have already been established by UD

1559
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:21,839
do. Is that what you're trying to get

1560
01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:22,560
to? Okay.

1561
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,000
>> You can't do it at any other spot now

1562
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,839
unless we amend our agreement with you

1563
01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:26,319
do

1564
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:30,000
>> on what on the quarter agreement.

1565
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:30,560
>> Okay.

1566
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,279
>> Is the purple approved? What's approved

1567
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:36,480
with you do right now? The intersection

1568
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:39,199
>> I think it is the personal channel that

1569
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:42,159
there by his mouse is approved.

1570
01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:44,470
>> Yeah.

1571
01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:46,880
two intersections that close.

1572
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,120
>> They're like

1573
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,159
half a mile apart, I think, is

1574
01:08:52,159 --> 01:09:00,070
>> their rule.

1575
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,600
» Sorry, I'm just making a note really

1576
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,110
quick.

1577
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,149
Okay.

1578
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:18,390
Um, let's see.

1579
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,400
Shelby, was there one more? I think that

1580
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,880
was it.

1581
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,880
Was there one more?

1582
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,960
>> I think it's maybe answered, but just to

1583
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,719
the northwest where the two um arterial

1584
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:33,199
roads are fairly close together near the

1585
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:34,159
flux area.

1586
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:34,960
>> Oh, yes.

1587
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,799
>> Did you already cover that? Yeah, they

1588
01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:40,480
said keep the width and they'll build

1589
01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:44,630
road within that width

1590
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,759
is what I was told.

1591
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:46,239
>> Yes.

1592
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:47,600
>> Okay.

1593
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,359
>> I think that makes good sense on the

1594
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:51,920
west bench. I down in that particular

1595
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,719
north area. I I mean those are really

1596
01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:57,120
close together as they bottleneck down

1597
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:02,560
there. So I I'm not sure about

1598
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,120
>> that particular spot. We could change

1599
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:05,840
like

1600
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,400
>> there.

1601
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,199
>> No, not there. I'm talking on the north

1602
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:12,080
>> east of 138.

1603
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:12,719
>> So through here

1604
01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:14,320
>> right here. Yeah.

1605
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,159
>> But I mean, how far away are we talking?

1606
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:16,719
>> I don't know.

1607
01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:18,960
>> A mile, half mile thing.

1608
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,640
>> I don't think it's that.

1609
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:21,280
>> No.

1610
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,360
>> What if you What if you went to the

1611
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,880
south of those properties instead of

1612
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,560
going up and around them, you just

1613
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,239
stayed to the south of them? So it's a

1614
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:31,120
straight line. Can we do that or are

1615
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,480
these

1616
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,719
>> Where are you talking? So the the not

1617
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:36,719
the top green line, the one in So you're

1618
01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:38,080
right. You see those developments how it

1619
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:38,960
juts up

1620
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,040
>> to the north of those and then it swings

1621
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,080
back down south.

1622
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,040
>> Yep.

1623
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:43,760
>> Yeah.

1624
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,040
>> We just go to the south of those

1625
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,440
properties and so it's a straight line

1626
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:49,360
all the way across. Then those two roads

1627
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,360
aren't so close.

1628
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:57,910
Yeah.

1629
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,520
» Yeah. There's a lot of

1630
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:00,560
>> there's a lot of

1631
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,760
>> property in there with structures on it.

1632
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,560
>> We tried to avoid those, but the best we

1633
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,040
could

1634
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,280
>> is the north green line the edge of that

1635
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,040
excession.

1636
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,280
>> No. Um,

1637
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,159
>> is that what pushes it south? because

1638
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:20,640
that's the north boundary there.

1639
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,960
>> No, your annexation limits are pretty

1640
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,480
wide.

1641
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:27,830
Um,

1642
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,280
the current city limit.

1643
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,400
>> Why does it come down right right there?

1644
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,880
That one on the north. Why doesn't it

1645
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,640
just straight into 130?

1646
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,080
>> Why doesn't it just go through here?

1647
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,440
>> No, the upper one.

1648
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:40,000
>> This one?

1649
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,709
>> Yeah. Why is that down?

1650
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:46,239
» Why does it come up to here? We're just

1651
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:48,880
trying to follow this property line.

1652
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,800
>> But I'm saying farther west. Why does it

1653
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,600
just go straight right?

1654
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,080
Why does it come down?

1655
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,880
>> There's a mine. If you keep going to the

1656
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,760
um west.

1657
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,280
>> Oh, you're saying why doesn't it just

1658
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:04,239
come like this?

1659
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,640
>> Yeah. All the way.

1660
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,480
>> We tried to line it up with this little

1661
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:09,360
mountain road.

1662
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:15,484
>> I

1663
01:12:15,494 --> 01:12:19,430
» [clears throat]

1664
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,360
» We can look at this area too and see if

1665
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,679
we can brainstorm how to get those

1666
01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:29,350
separated a little bit more as well.

1667
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,199
» If that more north line stayed straight

1668
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:32,800
like you were saying, I think you'd have

1669
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,640
more of a distance there. that road to

1670
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,560
the west. You said you tried to line up

1671
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,400
to it. If that's not that might be

1672
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,239
easier to move around than trying to get

1673
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:41,040
else above.

1674
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,840
>> I just go straight on that north

1675
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,080
>> green line

1676
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,520
>> back to the east.

1677
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,040
>> Just don't jog it down. Just go

1678
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:49,760
straight.

1679
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:50,400
>> Yeah.

1680
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,280
>> Okay.

1681
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,960
>> Well, except as far as the desireette

1682
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,960
development, isn't that kind of a major

1683
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,440
cross point that it makes sense to have

1684
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:00,640
that in there? No.

1685
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,719
>> Little mountain. I think it's the lower

1686
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:03,600
one.

1687
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,239
This one.

1688
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:06,000
>> That one. Okay, you're right. Because

1689
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,400
there's Yes. Sorry. You're right.

1690
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,679
>> I'll push this one up so it's a little

1691
01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:14,880
further away as well.

1692
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:15,920
>> Go straight.

1693
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,719
>> Yeah. Through here.

1694
01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:21,520
Okay.

1695
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,679
Any other questions on the

1696
01:13:23,679 --> 01:13:32,310
classification network?

1697
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,640
now that I put you all all to sleep. Um

1698
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,400
so just for your information really

1699
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,560
there's a 50page report that really will

1700
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,320
put you to sleep that you can read. It

1701
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,080
will be online um that you can read. Um

1702
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,480
the PDF is not currently on there. We

1703
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:51,679
will be putting it on um today. Well,

1704
01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:54,960
not today, tomorrow or Thursday.

1705
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,470
Um

1706
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:00,800
so there's that report.

1707
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,960
There is a document section in here that

1708
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,280
links you to all the municipal code

1709
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,199
pages within the city. So for planning

1710
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:09,440
and zoning, this is nice. They can pull

1711
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,760
this transportation plan up when they

1712
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,800
have projects coming and they can pull

1713
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,760
the code up from this website as well.

1714
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,239
We also have a 300page appendix with all

1715
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:22,960
the maps, hard copy maps, because the

1716
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,960
website technically isn't what you adopt, [clears throat] but it's just a

1717
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,480
tool for you to use in house. um you're

1718
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:32,320
actually adopting the report with the

1719
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,321
appendix as well.

1720
01:14:36,321 --> 01:14:37,280
[clears throat] Then we have a

1721
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,870
definition sheet.

1722
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,760
Um this is mostly for the public just

1723
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,920
going through some of the jargon that we

1724
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,159
use in the transportation plan. You can

1725
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:51,199
read through um each one of these

1726
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:54,719
definitions and see what we're talking

1727
01:14:54,719 --> 01:15:01,590
about.

1728
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,400
Shelby, any other items you can think of

1729
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,600
or anybody else that wants to bring up

1730
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,239
anything that's a plan itself? We've

1731
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:13,440
been here for a while. I know. Any other

1732
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:14,880
thoughts?

1733
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,239
>> Thank you.

1734
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:18,080
>> Any questions from council or the

1735
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,750
planning commission?

1736
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,120
» No.

1737
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,280
Melissa, we know this is a lot to digest

1738
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,880
and so that's why we wanted to give you

1739
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,960
a couple weeks to look through it before

1740
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,760
we had a a public meeting. Um be

1741
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,000
available to answer any questions that

1742
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,520
may come up and then um we'll uh we'll

1743
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,600
get this in front of you guys for

1744
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,880
adoption in the next little bit.

1745
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,000
So the plan is two weeks from now we'll

1746
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,400
do the public openhouse. We'll leave it

1747
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,640
open for two weeks after that for public

1748
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,640
comment. We'll get you all of the

1749
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,560
comments to look at if we get any. Um,

1750
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,800
and then we'll go through those

1751
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,520
comments, address them. Then it goes to

1752
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:02,800
public hearing at the planning

1753
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,040
commission level and then it will go

1754
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,600
they'll recommend to the council for

1755
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,199
adoption and then the the council will

1756
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:14,320
then adopt after that.

1757
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,199
How long was the last public?

1758
01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:19,199
>> Uh,

1759
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:21,778
unless your code requires that.

1760
01:16:21,778 --> 01:16:22,480
[clears throat]

1761
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:24,800
>> Typically, no. But

1762
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,560
>> if your code does require it, then yes,

1763
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:27,360
you will.

1764
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:27,760
>> Okay.

1765
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,440
>> Um,

1766
01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:33,920
>> was the last plan for traffic last

1767
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,600
>> 2021

1768
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:36,800
was the last plan?

1769
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:37,840
>> 2022.

1770
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:42,320
tried amending it again in 2023

1771
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,920
but that failed.

1772
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,560
So the kind of the draft that we talked

1773
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,360
about last year was this the draft that

1774
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,920
was preliminary or

1775
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,520
>> it was um done by Horox I believe um and

1776
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,910
it was just just in

1777
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,840
» Do you mine do you do any like overlay

1778
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,159
of uh sensitive lands on the proposed

1779
01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:13,520
>> on the proposed? Yeah, like wetlands and

1780
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,080
stuff

1781
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,280
>> typically in this level of study. No.

1782
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:17,600
>> Okay.

1783
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,600
>> Um when we're looking at like a specific

1784
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,600
corridor we do, but we're looking super

1785
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,560
high level. We're strictly looking at

1786
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,440
traffic numbers, how to fix the issues

1787
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:32,000
with traffic, and then if you want to

1788
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,000
look at certain corridors, then we can

1789
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,360
look at that. But in this study, no to

1790
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:38,239
that one.

1791
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:39,600
>> Thank you.

1792
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,280
I did forget one item. Um,

1793
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,400
so we did cost estimates, inflated them

1794
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,199
up to the year that they're anticipated

1795
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:50,880
to go in.

1796
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,679
>> This is a lot of money. Um, if you were

1797
01:17:53,679 --> 01:17:56,560
to put every road within the city at

1798
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,679
full buildout, including developers, UD

1799
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:03,920
do county, and city, you're 835 million.

1800
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:04,880
>> Is that all?

1801
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,600
>> That's it. Trump change. Is that include

1802
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,159
like traffic lights?

1803
01:18:10,159 --> 01:18:11,360
>> This is just roads.

1804
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,129
>> Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't think

1805
01:18:13,129 --> 01:18:15,600
[laughter] so.

1806
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,400
>> That would double that, right?

1807
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,159
>> Not quite, but

1808
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:21,120
>> Okay.

1809
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,360
>> Um, so the city right now is only we

1810
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,159
only have you guys putting in

1811
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:31,440
responsible for half of depot.

1812
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:34,880
um the widening projects within the city

1813
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,239
that need to happen and then

1814
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:41,280
um I think that's it honestly the

1815
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,719
widenings and deeper road itself

1816
01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:48,640
um the county is responsible for some

1817
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,480
you're teaming with the county on some

1818
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:53,760
of these so the county is responsible

1819
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,719
for about 145,000 or 145 million UDOT's

1820
01:18:58,719 --> 01:19:01,920
responsible for about 125 5 million and

1821
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,920
then developers take [clears throat] the

1822
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:13,510
brunt of it at about 450 million.

1823
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,920
This also takes into account, I will

1824
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,880
say, the crosssections of the wider ride

1825
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,760
ofway being five lanes instead of three.

1826
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,040
So if you want us to take that down to

1827
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,880
three lanes, we can do that. So that'll

1828
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:33,750
decrease that cost a little bit.

1829
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,040
No, because it'll just make everything

1830
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:35,760
else red.

1831
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:36,000
>> Yeah.

1832
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,400
More red. [laughter]

1833
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,000
>> So, the answer that question is no.

1834
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:40,400
>> Okay.

1835
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,600
>> I mean, we

1836
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:42,400
>> Sorry, but

1837
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,880
>> yeah, leave it there and we'll have to

1838
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,600
build as we can. That's all there is to

1839
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,400
it.

1840
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,360
>> Okay. Okay. That's all I have for you

1841
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:53,920
tonight.

1842
01:19:53,920 --> 01:20:00,540
>> Thank you.

1843
01:20:00,550 --> 01:20:01,280
» [clears throat]

1844
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,120
>> Did I close out?

1845
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,880
>> Any other comments from the council or

1846
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,400
commission?

1847
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,199
>> Okay, we'll move on to agenda item

1848
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:10,960
number two, a discussion of proposed

1849
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,400
amendments to the parks and

1850
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,040
transportation capital facilities plans,

1851
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,440
impact fee facilities plans, and impact

1852
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:21,440
fee analysis for Grantsville City.

1853
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:23,440
>> You want me to plug in or are you able

1854
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:24,800
to share that PDF?

1855
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:37,270
>> Um, I can share the PDF.

1856
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,520
Yeah, that'll work. You want me to run

1857
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,159
with

1858
01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:40,800
>> Sure.

1859
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:45,430
>> Okay.

1860
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:46,880
» So, I'm Robert Rousell with Enzyme

1861
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,640
Engineering.

1862
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,440
Annually, we uh amend the capital

1863
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:53,920
facility plan, impact facility plans,

1864
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,400
and impact Ve analysis. I'm sorry, that

1865
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:56,960
was me.

1866
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:57,520
>> Oh,

1867
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,199
>> sorry. I'm just trying to stretch it out

1868
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:00,000
on the screen, but

1869
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:00,640
>> Okay.

1870
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,960
>> Sorry.

1871
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,440
>> And uh an item of correction is we

1872
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:07,360
basically amended everything except for

1873
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,880
the transportation. So, we include

1874
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,480
parks, you know, drinking water, waste

1875
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:13,679
water, uh water ice acquisition, storm

1876
01:21:13,679 --> 01:21:17,510
drainage.

1877
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:26,229
» I do not know why it's

1878
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:28,640
So maybe

1879
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,596
can we budget me? Thank you.

1880
01:21:31,596 --> 01:21:33,750
[laughter]

1881
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,199
» Okay. So you take a five minute break.

1882
01:21:35,199 --> 01:21:36,159
>> Yeah. I think

1883
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:38,480
>> Yeah, we'll take a five minute break.

1884
01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:39,360
>> Technology break.

1885
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,030
>> A tech break.

1886
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,709
» Yeah.

1887
01:21:46,719 --> 01:21:51,910
Can't handle it.

1888
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:56,550
And then do I need to log into

1889
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:02,639
» I think

1890
01:22:02,639 --> 01:22:10,709
that or is it a special

1891
01:22:10,719 --> 01:22:12,320
» we use a separate phone.

1892
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:13,600
>> So yeah, how do I do that?

1893
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:14,719
>> Start deleting

1894
01:22:14,719 --> 01:22:22,550
>> your own stuff. So he's a separate not

1895
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,440
» should be good.

1896
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:24,560
>> Yeah.

1897
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:24,880
>> Well,

1898
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:29,990
>> we provided these days

1899
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,600
to go to school bus.

1900
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:41,270
>> Yeah.

1901
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,679
So like if

1902
01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:46,000
you drive it and then it'll update

1903
01:22:46,000 --> 01:23:01,189
automatically.

1904
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:02,639
I know it isn't

1905
01:23:02,639 --> 01:23:05,360
>> the hard part.

1906
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,430
Yeah, the imagery's

1907
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:12,457
» big.

1908
01:23:12,467 --> 01:23:17,350
[clears throat]

1909
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,840
It's hard to see.

1910
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,480
>> So, it'll catch it as patchy, but it

1911
01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:23,280
won't catch it as

1912
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:32,149
>> red.

1913
01:23:32,159 --> 01:27:05,990
showing up.

1914
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:11,110
Good thing you get paid by the huh

1915
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,470
» life cycle.

1916
01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:24,950
» That's good because I've always

1917
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,040
» Are you ready, Robert?

1918
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,159
truck by the hour.

1919
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:30,960
>> He doesn't care.

1920
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,560
>> No, we are we are hourly.

1921
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,090
>> In that case, we'll get started.

1922
01:27:37,090 --> 01:27:37,840
[laughter]

1923
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,040
>> So, our thought process, right?

1924
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,440
>> We're

1925
01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:46,400
going to to go back into um our session

1926
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,560
of this meeting and continue our

1927
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,639
discussion with item number two. It

1928
01:27:50,639 --> 01:27:52,639
appears the

1929
01:27:52,639 --> 01:27:54,480
>> that we're ready.

1930
01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:56,880
>> Order in the court.

1931
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,639
All right. Go go go ahead, Robert.

1932
01:27:58,639 --> 01:28:00,480
>> Okay. Yeah. So, Robert Rousell with Enzy

1933
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:02,239
Engineering.

1934
01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:03,840
>> Yeah. We're we're basically looking at

1935
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,600
amendments to everything except for

1936
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,280
transportation. Once the transportation

1937
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:12,400
master plan is approved, then we'll update and uh bring that for

1938
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:18,390
planning commission, city council.

1939
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,520
So, we do uh amend these annually. We

1940
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,600
did amend parks and transportation uh in

1941
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,440
January. It's when it was approved by

1942
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:30,239
city council. There was a few changes

1943
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:32,639
there just to bring the transportation

1944
01:28:32,639 --> 01:28:35,120
impact fee down. And then parks we

1945
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,679
updated with like scenic slopes and a

1946
01:28:37,679 --> 01:28:40,400
few other projects.

1947
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,960
So yeah, impact fees uh I won't read

1948
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,880
everything here, but help fund expansion

1949
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,040
of uh you know to accommodate future

1950
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,760
growth. Uh we met with city staff

1951
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,840
multiple times in December and then once

1952
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,639
we had a draft, you know, we we met a

1953
01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:57,120
couple weeks ago. It takes 90 days

1954
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,960
before impact fees are approved by city

1955
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,840
council before they go into effect. And

1956
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,000
uh any developer funded projects, which

1957
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,760
you'll see some of those throughout

1958
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,040
here, are not impact eligible. We did

1959
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,199
utilize the demographics

1960
01:29:11,199 --> 01:29:14,480
that we had updated for the 2026 sewer

1961
01:29:14,480 --> 01:29:15,920
rates which was kind of a little bit

1962
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,719
lower of a projection uh for the next 10

1963
01:29:18,719 --> 01:29:21,440
years. [clears throat] Uh I mentioned

1964
01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:23,040
there that you know typically the growth

1965
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,880
rate for Grantsville over the last 26

1966
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,360
years has been four and a half to 5%.

1967
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:28,800
There was some spikes during the co

1968
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,400
years.

1969
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,840
What we do is we determine the capital

1970
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,040
improvement projects using the

1971
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,679
demographics and level of service uh for

1972
01:29:35,679 --> 01:29:37,840
the various you know for water

1973
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,360
wastewater the other and parks. Uh and

1974
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,920
then we determine any non- capital

1975
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,320
improvement project costs such as

1976
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,440
interest expense for bonds uh existing

1977
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:51,840
capital assets professional expenses and

1978
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:56,550
then future debt service.

1979
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,159
As I mentioned, here's kind of the the

1980
01:29:58,159 --> 01:30:01,040
growth rate uh for the demographics uh

1981
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,760
section that we utilized. Starting off

1982
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,719
with like 3 and 12% for a couple years

1983
01:30:06,719 --> 01:30:08,960
and then a 4% growth rate through the

1984
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:15,350
10-year planning period.

1985
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,360
And then we look at different sub areas

1986
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,239
and and what this helps us with is

1987
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:21,840
projecting where growth's going to occur

1988
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,760
and where improvements are going to need

1989
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,189
to be made.

1990
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:29,360
This just summarizes the, you know, the

1991
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:30,719
residential growth rate, the commercial

1992
01:30:30,719 --> 01:30:32,080
growth rate. That was another thing we

1993
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,120
did modify is we previously had used a

1994
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,280
growth rate, the same growth rate for

1995
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,280
residential as commercial, but looking

1996
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,520
back at previous building permits over

1997
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,040
the last, I believe it was five or six

1998
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,360
years. What we found was, you know, the

1999
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,760
commercial growth rate was hovering a

2000
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,400
little bit less or or at 1%. So, we've

2001
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:55,590
made that update move forward.

2002
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,199
We haven't changed for drinking water.

2003
01:30:57,199 --> 01:30:58,560
We haven't changed the level of service.

2004
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,960
And this is based on for for indoor it's

2005
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,960
based on metered usage. We use state uh

2006
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,560
values for outdoor just because this

2007
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:13,040
change was made gosh in 2022 when we

2008
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,760
were having drought years and towards

2009
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,040
the end of the summer we were seeing

2010
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,080
more usage of city water for irrigation

2011
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,679
instead of grants irrigation company

2012
01:31:21,679 --> 01:31:25,430
water.

2013
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:28,560
drinking water projects. We've got

2014
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,239
they're all kind of listed there. A lot

2015
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:32,000
of those you can see that are zero

2016
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,840
impact v eligible costs. Those are

2017
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,159
developer projects.

2018
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:39,360
The Bates well is currently being

2019
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,920
drilled. Northstar tank, we're just

2020
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,920
waiting for the Green water line to

2021
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,880
be finished so we can fill that. Uh so

2022
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,080
those u are projects that are currently

2023
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,320
being built. Northstar tank number one

2024
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,440
was needed previously for you know

2025
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:57,760
growth and so it was previously impact v

2026
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,719
eligible and in older plans but now you

2027
01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:02,719
know there's not enough capacity so it's

2028
01:32:02,719 --> 01:32:06,709
no longer impact v eligible

2029
01:32:06,719 --> 01:32:09,520
» how many projects is that

2030
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:10,880
>> well and there's even more these are

2031
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:12,560
just ones we looked at is impact be

2032
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,239
eligible and yeah if you look in the

2033
01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:15,679
like the main study you'll see them

2034
01:32:15,679 --> 01:32:19,040
there I mean there's probably what 15

2035
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,600
there we can count up. But

2036
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,960
>> yeah, this shows kind even more. I guess

2037
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,560
there's 28 overall, but some of these

2038
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,159
I'll try to zoom in here.

2039
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:35,760
Some of these are replacements, you

2040
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,199
know, when you get in into the city, you

2041
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:38,480
know, just replacing a lot of the

2042
01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:41,679
smaller lines with larger lines. The

2043
01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:46,629
standards 8 inch diameter

2044
01:32:46,639 --> 01:32:48,719
and this is just looking 10 years out.

2045
01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:50,480
So they're, you know, like for

2046
01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:52,639
Desireette for this development for

2047
01:32:52,639 --> 01:32:54,159
example,

2048
01:32:54,159 --> 01:32:55,280
we're really just showing kind of the

2049
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,120
backbone infrastructure. We anticipate

2050
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,440
the developer would be building kind of

2051
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:05,920
these interconnecting water lines and then we don't anticipate they'll

2052
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,320
build like their zone 7 tank in the next

2053
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:17,270
10 years.

2054
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:18,960
So there's a little bit of change in

2055
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,600
impact fees. They they do go up a little

2056
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,719
bit. We base them based on meter size

2057
01:33:24,719 --> 01:33:26,719
for residential and then non-residential

2058
01:33:26,719 --> 01:33:29,520
we use per fixure unit. And that's

2059
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:35,840
assuming and it's in the report that uh you know the equivalent ERC is

2060
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,840
which is equivalent residential

2061
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,440
connection has 24 fixed units to

2062
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:43,679
basically get a cost for per fixture

2063
01:33:43,679 --> 01:33:47,189
unit.

2064
01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:49,040
And feel free to yeah just stop me if

2065
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,679
you have any questions as I go along.

2066
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:53,440
>> Public safety we left the level of

2067
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:55,440
service that change there. I this wasn't

2068
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:58,000
in the packet but it is in the report. I

2069
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,239
kind of just threw it in here just to

2070
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:02,000
explain that what we did look at for

2071
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,719
public safety was when we calculate the

2072
01:34:04,719 --> 01:34:09,120
fee, we went to a a dwelling unit or a

2073
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,280
unit for non-residential

2074
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:15,920
and we based it based on CAD calls from

2075
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,000
the police department to get a little

2076
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,600
bit more accurate of what the impact is

2077
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,159
for, for example, single family,

2078
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:26,080
multifamily, and non-residential. That

2079
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,960
was using 2025 data from the police

2080
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,120
department and we'll we'll continue to

2081
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,040
update that yearly as we get more data

2082
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:34,639
and the police department's now tracking

2083
01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:36,880
that. So what we found out was you know

2084
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,719
single family you know there's basically

2085
01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:44,159
575 calls per per unit. Multif family is

2086
01:34:44,159 --> 01:34:46,880
almost two and on residential two and a

2087
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,239
half. And I'll show you kind of where

2088
01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:51,040
that comes into play. Oh skipped a bit

2089
01:34:51,040 --> 01:35:07,590
too far.

2090
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,199
As far as capital improvement projects,

2091
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:11,920
one change that we did did do uh just

2092
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,960
because we don't have the need quite yet

2093
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,560
is we've kept the we've kept the cost in

2094
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,880
there for future satellite fire station,

2095
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,000
but we did not put it in for impact fee

2096
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,520
eligibility.

2097
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,719
Uh because we since we're amending this

2098
01:35:28,719 --> 01:35:30,080
annually, you know, once we see the

2099
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,679
need, then we'll we'll add it back in.

2100
01:35:31,679 --> 01:35:33,920
So, we're collecting impact fees. So,

2101
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,440
the impact fee eligible costs are

2102
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:37,600
actually the animal control shelter and

2103
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,440
then the justice center police

2104
01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:43,110
expansion.

2105
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:44,960
This this just shows where we

2106
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,480
anticipate,

2107
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:48,239
you know, improvements to be made. We've

2108
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:49,440
got a little note there that you know

2109
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:52,000
that actual project location will depend

2110
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,480
on you know how development occurs

2111
01:35:56,480 --> 01:35:59,360
and here's the big change where I uh

2112
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,040
that I was mentioning. So it has gone

2113
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,120
down per dwelling unit for single family

2114
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,040
for example but has gone up for

2115
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,440
multi-unit and non-residential and

2116
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:11,120
that's just because there's more calls

2117
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:17,750
for those you know those land uses

2118
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,560
parks left level service same there four

2119
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:25,440
acres uh per thousand population

2120
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:28,480
we had to just to keep the impact fee

2121
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:30,320
balance positive there there just one

2122
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,920
year where it goes negative, which is

2123
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,040
fine. Um, but to to keep it positive, we

2124
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:38,320
did adjust some of these dates. Uh,

2125
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:41,920
let's see. So, like the just the phases

2126
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,159
on Scenic Slopes Park and then

2127
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:46,320
President's Park, we moved those out.

2128
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,239
Kind of looked at, okay, well, when

2129
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:50,000
realistically is President's Park going

2130
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,320
to be like 60% developed and and

2131
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:57,040
adjusted that date accordingly.

2132
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,040
And then here kind of shows all the

2133
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:03,440
projected parks in red.

2134
01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:05,280
And so that caused it to go down

2135
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:12,390
slightly from what it was previously.

2136
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,480
Wastewater. We've kind of go over gone

2137
01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:17,199
over this in nauseium with [laughter]

2138
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:20,239
with city council meetings, but uh the

2139
01:37:20,239 --> 01:37:22,800
big one is the you know the treatment

2140
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,199
plant. So we've got that in here. And

2141
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:27,280
then there's the upsize of the West Bank

2142
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,360
interceptor, you know, segments one and

2143
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,280
two.

2144
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:32,800
And then the Northwest lift station,

2145
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,360
which will occur kind of in conjunction

2146
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:38,000
with the uh treatment plant, just

2147
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:39,520
upsizing the force main to get a little

2148
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,159
bit more life out of that lift station.

2149
01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:44,080
And then uh public works improvements,

2150
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:45,760
we did push it out, you know, towards

2151
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:49,910
the end of the planning period.

2152
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,119
So yeah, you've probably seen this

2153
01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:54,080
figure before, but it's just showing the

2154
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:55,840
kind of the West Bank interceptor, this

2155
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,639
line here, the uh Vegas Street

2156
01:37:58,639 --> 01:38:02,639
Collector, and then the uh SR12

2157
01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:04,239
interceptor, which would be developer

2158
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:07,280
constructed and Southwest sewer line,

2159
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,840
and then there's obviously the the

2160
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:14,790
upgrades to the treatment plant.

2161
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:19,199
So this one did go up slightly. We

2162
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:21,440
uh because of the upsize we added you

2163
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:22,800
know for the West Bank interceptor we

2164
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,560
did pull previously we had like the

2165
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,040
Willow Street collector after looking at

2166
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,639
a little bit more detail that project

2167
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:30,880
wasn't needed so it was moved kind of

2168
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,800
outside of the 10-year planning period

2169
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:37,669
so it did go up a little bit.

2170
01:38:37,679 --> 01:38:40,880
water rights uh pretty much stayed the

2171
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:44,239
same except for

2172
01:38:44,239 --> 01:38:47,280
the uh multi-unit residential. We really

2173
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,639
what drives this is the current if if

2174
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:51,920
you can find the water rights the

2175
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,480
current water rights cost. So we're

2176
01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:56,480
using 29,000

2177
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:59,040
per irrigated acre.

2178
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,840
Uh, and the the difference here is just

2179
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,840
multi-unit residential just factoring in

2180
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,000
kind of the because we're using town

2181
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,560
homes as a as part of multi-unit

2182
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,119
residential and that means that waterite

2183
01:39:13,119 --> 01:39:20,070
quantity is a little bit more. So that has gone up just slightly.

2184
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,880
storm drainage. We don't, you know, the

2185
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,040
city does not charge impact fees for

2186
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:26,159
storm drainage because a lot of the

2187
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:30,000
storm drainage right now is developer

2188
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,520
constructed.

2189
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,480
If there's a you you can charge impact

2190
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:36,080
fees in the future if there's any more

2191
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,119
regional projects that are planned on and the city's paying for

2192
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:42,080
those.

2193
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,440
So, here we've just listed the the storm

2194
01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:48,000
drainage guidelines for the city right

2195
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,360
now.

2196
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,159
A lot of this is based on the West Bank

2197
01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:55,040
interceptor or not the West Bank storm

2198
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,639
drain master plan.

2199
01:39:58,639 --> 01:40:00,639
So the the city has constructed this

2200
01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:02,320
Clark Street storm drain improvements

2201
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,400
project. There was a a grant for it.

2202
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,000
There's some future phases that are

2203
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,360
planned for this which would you know be

2204
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,800
a retention basin up higher in the the

2205
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,040
basin and then it's kind of turned

2206
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,760
sideways. But uh yeah, these are all the

2207
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:19,679
projects that were identified in the

2208
01:40:19,679 --> 01:40:26,149
West Bank storm drainage master plan.

2209
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:28,080
And as I mentioned, storm drainage,

2210
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,880
they're not applicable just because

2211
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,360
they're really all the improvements thus

2212
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,520
far are constructed by developers

2213
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,199
directly.

2214
01:40:37,199 --> 01:40:39,360
But if if that's something in the future

2215
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,600
the city wants to charge impact fees

2216
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,560
for, then it'd have to be looked at as

2217
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:50,390
more regional improvements.

2218
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,920
Impact fee comparisons. We look at we we

2219
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:55,920
kind of went over this last year, but we

2220
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,600
look at like a smaller 5,000 foot retail

2221
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,320
and then we compare them to

2222
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,320
not necessarily similar cities, but at

2223
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,639
least cities that have similar impact

2224
01:41:06,639 --> 01:41:10,320
fees and kind of show you where the

2225
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:12,800
proposed and then existing, you know,

2226
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,679
Grantsville impact fees are. So, for

2227
01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:17,600
example, you know, retail's gone up a

2228
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,679
little bit, and I think that was due

2229
01:41:19,679 --> 01:41:23,040
more to the public safety, just the

2230
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,520
change in, you know, the costs per unit

2231
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,560
that drove that

2232
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,520
uh thousand square foot building that's

2233
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,520
gone down and that and that's kind of

2234
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:34,960
had the opposite. You know, we were

2235
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,800
basing

2236
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,960
public for public safety, we're basing

2237
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,360
it on square footage previously and now

2238
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:42,800
we're basing it on units. So if you had

2239
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,719
a thousand or a million square foot

2240
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:48,880
warehouse for example and it just was

2241
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,280
one unit with one water service one you

2242
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,960
know sewer service then it would just be

2243
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,320
charged that one impact fee per per

2244
01:41:56,320 --> 01:42:02,229
unit.

2245
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:05,040
Town homes, it's gone down slightly.

2246
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:08,800
Single family slightly gone down. Here

2247
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,520
is where where the city's kind of hidden

2248
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:12,880
about right in the middle of the

2249
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,600
comparison cities.

2250
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:18,159
And then apartments also gone down as

2251
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:24,070
well,

2252
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:29,030
I guess. Yeah. Are there any questions?

2253
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:34,440
Was

2254
01:42:34,450 --> 01:42:35,280
[cough and clears throat]

2255
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:39,280
there a slide and I missed it on? We

2256
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,440
talked about sewer

2257
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:43,520
bills.

2258
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,239
Water. I was worried about water bills.

2259
01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:48,560
Water.

2260
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:49,600
I don't see it.

2261
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,800
>> Water.

2262
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,480
>> Yeah. So, there's water. This This is

2263
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:57,679
impact. So, this isn't the rates.

2264
01:42:57,679 --> 01:43:00,080
There are rates in here.

2265
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,800
>> No, this is just this is impact. So, not

2266
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:03,760
the water rates.

2267
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:12,431
>> Okay.

2268
01:43:12,441 --> 01:43:21,590
[clears throat]

2269
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,840
» Yes. Yeah. Any

2270
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,280
comments from

2271
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,520
>> I guess just my question would be is Is

2272
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,199
it a dance? We're dancing trying to

2273
01:43:29,199 --> 01:43:31,119
compete with other cities to keep impact

2274
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:33,840
fees low or why not why not put a little

2275
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,960
buffer on there and make some extra.

2276
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,760
What what prevents us from doing that?

2277
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:44,320
>> Yeah, I mean you try to try to stay

2278
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:46,000
I know I've I've listened to talks that

2279
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,920
developers have had right at conferences

2280
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:49,520
and that type of thing is you try to

2281
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:50,800
stay competitive. I mean, if you're

2282
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:52,880
charging too much, then you're just not

2283
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,360
going to see the growth. And then if

2284
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:56,800
you're charging, you know, too less,

2285
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,639
then you're not paying for the

2286
01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:00,560
improvements you need. So, it's it is

2287
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:04,239
kind of a balance there. Uh really, we

2288
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:05,679
look at, you know, with our level of

2289
01:44:05,679 --> 01:44:07,199
service, hey, what improvements are

2290
01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:10,480
needed and then there's only so much we

2291
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:12,159
can do. We we're looking at a 10-year

2292
01:44:12,159 --> 01:44:15,280
planning period. So, that's that's the

2293
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:16,880
ERC's, equivalent residential

2294
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,520
connections in that 10 years. And

2295
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,760
there's only so much we can can do there

2296
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,920
with those improvements.

2297
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,000
>> The other challenge is too if we we get

2298
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:29,119
too crazy with it, the uh developers

2299
01:44:29,119 --> 01:44:31,360
will notice that it's too crazy and

2300
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,360
they'll push back and and then all of

2301
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,199
this comes out and they'll say you're

2302
01:44:35,199 --> 01:44:38,800
basing it off of not good data or good

2303
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:40,800
engineering. You're basing it off of a

2304
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:44,480
desire to have too much. And that opens

2305
01:44:44,480 --> 01:44:46,880
up our impact piece challenge, legal

2306
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,760
challenge. and then we right back here

2307
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,119
giving it all over again. So we got to

2308
01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:55,760
stay within a pretty narrow band of

2309
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,840
what's allowed.

2310
01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:59,840
>> So there's law that governs what we can

2311
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:01,360
do. You just can't make something up.

2312
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:02,480
There's laws that are saying

2313
01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:03,760
>> that's the whole point of doing this

2314
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,080
study anyway. This impact fees are are

2315
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:09,040
one of those things that is just so

2316
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,679
heavily regulated and and rightfully so.

2317
01:45:11,679 --> 01:45:13,840
I mean, no one wants to pay more than

2318
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,960
they have to, and this is a a cost that

2319
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,280
eventually gets pushed back onto

2320
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:20,800
homeowners

2321
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:31,750
um to pay. And uh yeah,

2322
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:33,520
does anybody else have any questions?

2323
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:38,229
the commission council.

2324
01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:41,440
» Are is the city looking at not waving

2325
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:47,109
fees as much now?

2326
01:45:47,119 --> 01:45:49,040
» What are you referring to?

2327
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,920
>> Um I know that we've waved fees in the

2328
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:56,960
past and so with Cameron's concern

2329
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:01,520
um about maintaining a balance,

2330
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,080
I just

2331
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,840
Um, I just wonder are these static or

2332
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,400
are they fluid?

2333
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,719
Are they I think any impact fee is

2334
01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:13,840
fluid, especially when it comes to

2335
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,080
commercial impact fees and you're in

2336
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,000
direct competition with municipalities,

2337
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:18,560
right?

2338
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:20,960
>> Waving fees for the keep the project

2339
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,520
going is common practice across multiple

2340
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,760
municipalities and not for years because

2341
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:27,360
you want to drive business, economic

2342
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:28,639
business growth.

2343
01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:29,199
>> Yeah.

2344
01:46:29,199 --> 01:46:31,040
>> Residential and housing growth not

2345
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,639
probably not as much.

2346
01:46:32,639 --> 01:46:36,400
But commercial and and waving and

2347
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,080
assisting or waving impact fees on

2348
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,480
commercial development, I I would still

2349
01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:42,480
think that you would see that as a

2350
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:46,880
one-on-one. I mean, I don't think it's a set. It's still on a case by case

2351
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,040
basis.

2352
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:50,000
>> Barry, go ahead.

2353
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,560
>> Oh, I was gonna Robert. I'll try my

2354
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:53,119
best.

2355
01:46:53,119 --> 01:46:54,880
>> So, this is a 10-year window, right?

2356
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,320
Looking at the next 10 years. And so,

2357
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:57,840
next year, it's the next 10 years. And

2358
01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:59,280
so, it's going to change. The next 10

2359
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,600
years are going to change. So there has

2360
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:05,440
to be some Yeah. fluidity.

2361
01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:07,199
>> Yeah. And I've mentioned like for

2362
01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:08,880
wastewater treatment, right? So the the

2363
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,920
plant like even though there's an impact

2364
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,760
fee now, like as long as that plant has

2365
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,080
capacity, excess capacity, you can

2366
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:23,350
charge buyins for that buyin fees. Y

2367
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,840
» and a lot of this data that's kind of

2368
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,920
why we went there with uh transfer

2369
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,600
transportation for example we're based

2370
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,199
like for non non-residential we're

2371
01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:32,880
basing that based on their actual

2372
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,800
traffic study. So they they come in you

2373
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,040
know it it'll be reviewed by city staff

2374
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,119
you know the the transportation study

2375
01:47:41,119 --> 01:47:42,639
and then that'll kind of dictate what

2376
01:47:42,639 --> 01:47:45,119
their impact fees are. And we what we

2377
01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:48,000
use on a lot of these is we we try to

2378
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,679
use specific city data to back up level

2379
01:47:51,679 --> 01:47:54,000
of service. So it's it's specific to

2380
01:47:54,000 --> 01:48:02,390
Grantsville.

2381
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:05,679
» Any other questions or comments?

2382
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:09,830
>> All right. Thank you, Robert.

2383
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,320
» All right. Um with that, I need a motion

2384
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,960
to adjurnn.

2385
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,199
Mayor, I'll make a motion we adjurnn.

2386
01:48:17,199 --> 01:48:19,360
>> Uh, we have a motion to adjurnn by

2387
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:20,880
council member Dalton. Is there a

2388
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,159
second?

2389
01:48:22,159 --> 01:48:22,639
>> Second.

2390
01:48:22,639 --> 01:48:24,560
>> And a second by council member Williams.

2391
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:25,679
All in favor?

2392
01:48:25,679 --> 01:48:27,520
>> I.

2393
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,719
>> Thank you for uh MLAN and Robert. For

2394
01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:36,629
your information, please.

2395
01:48:36,639 --> 01:48:45,270
You were worried about that.

2396
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:56,070
» Couldn't find where I saw

2397
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,719
something.

2398
01:48:58,719 --> 01:49:03,000
>> Yeah. Tomorrow.