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» You ready, Alicia?

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Ready to go? Okay.

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All right. Welcome, everybody. Uh, we

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will call this meeting to order. This is

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a regular meeting and public hearing of

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the Grantsville City Council. For the

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record, today's date is June 17th, 2026

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and the time is 7:00 p.m.

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This meeting is being held at the

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Grantsville City Council Chambers

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located at 429 East Main Street,

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Grantsville, Utah, as well as

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electronically by Zoom.

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I am Mayor Heidi Hammond and I will

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conduct a roll call. Council member

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Thomas.

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>> Here.

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>> Williams.

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>> Here.

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>> Dalton.

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>> Here.

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>> Skinner.

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>> And Council member Butler is excused

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from the first portion of the meeting

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and he had a work obligation and will

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join us electronically when he can and

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when he has joined us, I will stop the

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meeting and and make mention that he is

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here and available to vote on our

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Um I've asked Les Peterson if he would

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lead the Pledge of Allegiance today.

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» Those of you who are actually able to

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salute,

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please your hand over your heart. All of

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you who are in uniform, please salute.

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Pledge of Allegiance.

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Present arms.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America

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and to the republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> Two. You may be seated. Thank you.

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» Thank you, Les. Thanks for taking the

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time to be here with us. We appreciate

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it. Thanks.

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Um all right, our first item

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on our agenda tonight is public comment

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and the floor is open to the public to

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bring their concerns to the council. I

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would like to note that items 9 and 10

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regarding 9, 10, or 12, if you will

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point, you will have an opportunity then

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to express your concerns when we get to

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those items after they have been

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presented. We will give you an

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opportunity to speak to those items. But

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if you have any other items you would

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the time is yours to come to the

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microphone or if you're on Zoom,

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if you could raise your hand, we would

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love to hear your comments.

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» I am Sheldon Birch. I am

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not here to complain about anything.

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>> I'm as you know, I'm probably know I'm

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on the Erda City Council and as I look

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at your agenda, I'm glad to know that

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Erda is not the only one with difficult

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I also assume you know that I'm running

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for a House District 29 and I am here

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and listening and trying to pay

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attention, doing my best. So, thank you.

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our community. Appreciate it.

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You can even complain. We won't We won't

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» Anybody online, Alicia?

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All right, we're going to close the

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Uh the approval of minutes from the June

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3rd, 2026 City Council regular meeting.

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Do any of the council members have any

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» Mayor, I'll make a motion. We move to

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approve minutes of June 3rd, 2026 City

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Council regular meeting.

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>> A second by Council Member Skinner. All

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um approval of the bills. Does anybody

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» Mayor, I make a motion that we approve

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the bills as presented.

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The next item tonight, um is exciting.

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It's the recognition of the rodeo

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recognize the many individuals who

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helped make the return of the

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Grantsville Rodeo possible.

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marked the return of a community

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tradition that has been absent for

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several years. As a child, I remember

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the rodeo vividly. I remember working in

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the concession stand. Um it was just a

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great time of year. It was exciting. And

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it has been missed from our community

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rodeo events and festivities, what often

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goes unseen are the countless hours of

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planning, preparation, coordination, and

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physical labor required behind the

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scenes to make an event of this size

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successful.

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truly a community effort. We are

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grateful for the members of the rodeo

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committee, the city staff from multiple

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departments, sponsors, volunteers, and

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community members who generously gave

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their time, talents, and resources to

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extraordinary efforts of our parks

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department and roads department. These

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employees dedicated countless hours

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preparing the grounds,

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maintaining facilities, coordinating

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logistics, setting up and taking down

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equipment, and ensuring the event was

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ready for participants and spectators.

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success of the rodeo and often took

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place behind the scenes without

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members of the rodeo committee whose

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vision, leadership, and commitment

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helped bring the Grantsville back to our

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community after years of absence.

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and energy into reviving this cherished

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tradition made this event possible.

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the greatest things for me for the rodeo

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was I feel like I I just have new

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friends. I got to know some of the

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people on the rodeo committee that I

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didn't know prior, and they are amazing

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people with

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a great work ethic and just a

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from the rodeo was friends. So, thank

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you. I appreciate it was just a a

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pleasure to work side by side with you

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in the many hours and time and several

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of the council members as well.

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Um on behalf of Grantsville City

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Council, city staff, and the residents

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of Grantsville, we extend our sincere

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appreciation to everyone who contributed

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to the successful return of the

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Grantsville Rodeo. Tonight, we are

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honored to present the mayor's award of

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appreciation to the Grantsville Rodeo

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Committee, the Public Works Parks

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Department, and the Public Works Road

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Department in recognition of their

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exceptional service and dedication.

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those departments and those individuals

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from the committee to um be recognized

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and um if they would please come

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wants to, but maybe

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if they would please stand and we will

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probably not sort the certificates out

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we'd like to, but if you would just

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stand, we would love to recognize you.

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director for allowing them the time to

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escape other projects. So thank you

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Christie. I'm sure she was Stand on up,

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sincerely offer our gratitude. I know

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how many hours you all spent and I

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appreciate it and because of that it was

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a fabulous success and I can't wait for

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next year. So

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» Thank you all very much. And then we

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Go ahead and grab them. Okay, we have

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cowboys also to give to each of the

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different groups that that made this a

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huge round of applause all on her own.

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>> Okay, and now she is going Item number

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four is a discussion and council

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direction on the Battle of the Bronx

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during the Honey Harvest Festival

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presented by Shelby Moore, but I think

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Are you presenting something from the

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rodeo?

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>> It was just for the rodeo committee.

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>> Okay.

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>> I think it would be great just to kind

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of go through this and look at the

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wonderful pictures that were taken.

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Um

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so you can see

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you know, our sponsors were tremendous.

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Um these pictures were taken by um

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Lauren, Shane's daughter. Uh she donated

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her time um and the pictures to the

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city. If you just go through those.

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So you can see

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um

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uh it was a fantastic rodeo and it was

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emotional Saturday, especially when we

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had the flag fly in and

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um so as you can see, this is Friday and

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the huge crowd and

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so it was great.

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Um just some pictures of the rodeo

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committee hanging out.

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Um helping with the the sheep and other

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livestock. The bottom picture is kind of

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my favorite.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Um

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yeah, if you just want to keep going.

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Um this is just a little video kind of

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what the grounds look like before and

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after.

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>> [snorts]

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>> So, you know, Ben and Colton and their

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team did a phenomenal job.

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And then if you want to go to the next

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slide.

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Just hit escape and then the next slide.

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>> Oh.

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It just this

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Keep going?

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>> No, hit escape.

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» That was good.

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And you've got the

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>> Anyways,

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um it was fantastic. I do have

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a video that I would like to play for

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the

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um bronc riding. It's called Battle of

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the Broncos.

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It's a

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event that I think would be fantastic to

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run in lieu of the Honey Harvest

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Festival.

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Make sure we have good audio this time.

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Last time it didn't go well.

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>> [clears throat]

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» So, I think it'd be fun to to have that

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event. Um

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I have reached out to sponsors, and I

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have had

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um almost $30,000 worth of sponsorship

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um guaranteed and interested in

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sponsoring not only the Battle of the

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Broncos, but the next year's Memorial

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Day Rodeo.

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And so, I think this would be

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um a great opportunity to bring our

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community together again. Um

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So, yeah. We're just looking for

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direction from council to see if that's

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something we want to do.

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» I think yes.

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I was like I was amazed at the rodeo. I

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just I I went both nights, and I thought

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it was so many people that said such

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positive things. It was great. It was

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good to see, I mean, meet people, like

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you said. And so, I think this is

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something I mean, I've been to Honey

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Har- Harvest Festival, too, obviously,

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but the um

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I think this So, this would go on at the

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rodeo grounds the same weekend we're

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doing the honey harvest festival.

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>> Correct. Yep, October 10th. So, that's a

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Saturday. The Honey Harvest Festival

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gets over about 5:30, 6:00. That's when

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we're wanting to bring the crowd over to

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the rodeo, you know, so they can go get

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their honey and we can get some of those

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vendors to, you know, transition over

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and and bring that crowd.

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>> Yeah, that is fine [snorts] with me.

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>> I think it's a good idea. I missed the

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rodeo, unfortunately, as I was on a

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vacation that was booked well in

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advance. So, I'm sorry I couldn't

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cancel, but

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I love to go to something else and I

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don't have any vacations planned for us

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over the 10th.

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>> [laughter and clears throat]

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>> Perfect. We'll put you to work there.

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Good to know your schedule's open.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Now we got more than a month to plan, so we're ready.

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We'll just hang [clears throat] out

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until September.

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>> That's right.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Well, we did all the hard work, so we're

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good now.

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>> it's great. Honey Harvest Harvest

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Festival brings in a ton of people

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>> Mhm.

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>> and I think it'd be nice segue into

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that. Long day for some people, but it'd

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be fun.

404
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>> Yeah, it's a good complimentary

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activity, I think, with the Honey

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Harvest Festival, so.

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Jeff or Jake, do you have any input?

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>> No, I I I feel the same. [clears throat]

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I I think uh we talk about, you know,

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his you know, traditions that we have

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and some of these it's sad that they've

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kind of gone by the wayside and

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we're able to

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rejuvenate it and I'm hoping that, yeah, that it

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continues to be something that, you

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know, memories can be made and

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you know, Mayor mentioned some memories

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that she has and

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be able to have that happen for future

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generations in Grantsville. Um we have

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some really awesome traditions that, you

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know, the 4th of July we got that coming

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up here.

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It's a week-long

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awesome week and

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we we grow as a city during that time

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from from where all everyone comes to

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visit and so having some of these things

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that

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can help benefit our community and bring

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us together, I think, are very

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beneficial. I I fully support it, so.

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>> Be great. Let's do it.

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>> Let's do it. There's the word. Let's do

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it. All right. Rodeo committee, get back

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to work. You [laughter] can't stay here

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any longer. Head back out there.

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All right. Thank you very much. Thank

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you to Shelby. Thank you to the Roads

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Department, the Parks Department, and

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the and the Rodeo Committee especially.

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Thank you so much for all your work. So,

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thank you.

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Moving on to agenda item number five, a

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presentation from the Division of Water

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Resources regarding a water-wise

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landscape incentive program and council

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directions. And also to all those who

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are here with the Rodeo Committee, this

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is fascinating stuff. You're welcome to

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sit around and listen. If you do not

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want to, please feel free to be excused.

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You do not need to feel obligated to sit

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here all night.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Yeah.

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>> Thanks.

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>> I might have to

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>> Hold on one second.

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>> Something with my computer glitches.

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>> [laughter]

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» Thank you.

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» Okay. So, are your name is Heidi as well

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as mine? Okay, we have two Heidis.

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>> Can you hear this? There we go. Okay,

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yes. Two Heidis. It's not very often I

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get to meet another Heidi.

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>> Yeah, it's great. The Conservation

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Coordinator with the Utah Department of

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Natural Resources Division of Water

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Resources.

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>> Yes, that's a very long

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>> very long title. Okay.

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>> very long. Usually we just say with

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Water Resources and people can remember

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that.

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>> Heidi King King from King from Water

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Resources. There you go.

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>> Yes. Um I'm here to speak on the

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statewide landscape incentive program

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and I greatly appreciate the council's

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time to be able to present on this and

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answer any questions that you may have.

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So, I will briefly discuss what the

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landscape program is and who is

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eligible, why we incentivize lawn

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removal, and what we do not incentivize,

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as well as those conservation benefits

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associated with it, additional resources

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that are available to participants, and

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then I'll take any questions at the end.

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So, the landscape incentive program

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began in 2023. It is a statewide

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program, and it is available to

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residents and any properties uh that are

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residing in municipalities that have

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adopted water-efficient landscape

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ordinances for new construction. This

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rebate is delivered by the Division of

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Water Resources in partnership with the

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largest water districts in the state.

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So, the large water districts, they

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cover the population centers, so along

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the Wasatch Front and Washington County.

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And then Water Resources, we deliver the

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program to the more rural areas of the

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state, including Tooele County.

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Um

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and we promote switching from the

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traditional Kentucky bluegrass to

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water-wise landscaping. And this is some

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good before-and-after photos. The most

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common projects that we see are in the

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park strip, because that's where the

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biggest water savings can happen.

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It's uh water

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sprinklers really struggle, the

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technology of it, to water anything

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that's less than 8 ft wide efficiently.

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So, anything that's smaller than that 8

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ft wide is going to experience overspray

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and dry spots, which is why park strips

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tend to struggle the most. And then

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people see dry spots, so then they water

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it even more. Uh and that's why park

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strips are very popular for this

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conversion, because it's so much easier

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to take care of, as well as reduce that

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water use.

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Go ahead to the next one.

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So, this is what we do rebate. Um

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the There's a photo behind, but and you

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can't see it, and I apologize for that,

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but that's okay. Um the photo behind has

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grass in it. We do incentivize the

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removal of grass, but we don't

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incentivize removing everything. So,

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it's okay if you can't see. We'll be

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okay.

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Uh so,

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the photo on the right is not something

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that we incentivize. We don't

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incentivize full hardscaping because it

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has some ecological uh detriments to it

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and we don't want to incentivize that.

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That's not something that we encourage

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either. Uh the photos on the left are

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what we do incentivize. So, you can

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remove all of your grass and replace it

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with water-wise plants. We do require

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that at least 50% of the project area

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have plants and water-wise plants are

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really anything that is uh longer lived

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than 1 year typically. So, perennial

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shrubs, trees, bulbs, anything except

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for the grass and the annuals. Um and

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you can keep grass. Uh

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we often see people remove grass in the

559
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,080
hardest areas to maintain that's not

560
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,240
really being used. So, typically against

561
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,840
the fence or structures, buildings, and

562
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,680
whatnot that takes a lot of equipment to

563
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,280
maintain and reduce the amount of grass

564
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,720
that they have so it's just a usable

565
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,560
area. It's bigger than 8 ft wide so it's

566
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,320
easy to maintain as well as using less

567
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,600
water.

568
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,720
Go ahead to the next one. So, this is

569
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,840
just a quick snapshot of the cities that

570
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,720
are eligible for this program. Um we did

571
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,040
just get Layton City is on there now so

572
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,840
we have 73 eligible cities

573
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,800
um or municipalities

574
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,840
and it's continually growing especially

575
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,080
in the more rural areas. Go ahead to the

576
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,040
next one. I mentioned our partnerships.

577
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,760
This is just a a brief visual map of

578
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,600
what that looks like. So, the blue areas

579
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,480
are covered by water districts and then

580
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,560
the rest of the state is what we uh

581
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,630
deliver this program to.

582
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,320
So, how do people become eligible for

583
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,480
this? So, the

584
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,000
uh the incentive is $2 per square foot

585
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,800
of lawn that's removed and water-wise

586
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,920
plantings are replaced with that. So,

587
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,440
that is the plants, drip irrigation, and

588
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,280
a mulch. That's the program.

589
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,520
And a city has to adopt a

590
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,200
water-efficient landscaping standards

591
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,240
for new development only. This is not a

592
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520
retroactive program. It does not apply

593
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,760
to properties that already exist. It is

594
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,000
for new developments only. And I'll go

595
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,440
over what those

596
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,680
standards are in just a moment. So,

597
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320
eligible projects are really any

598
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,840
property type. So, it's not just

599
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,520
homeowners, but commercials and

600
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,920
commercial properties and businesses, as

601
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600
well as government properties such as

602
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,640
government buildings, libraries,

603
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,720
public works buildings. The only

604
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,480
exceptions would be golf courses,

605
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,880
agricultural property, sod farms, and

606
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,120
parks.

607
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,560
And then application is pretty simple.

608
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,120
It's through Utah Water Savers right

609
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:57,480
now. We're transitioning to

610
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,120
slowtheflow.org.

611
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,720
So, either one of those websites will

612
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,870
get you the incentive program.

613
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,840
So, these are the ordinance

614
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,720
requirements. This is only for new

615
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,760
development. It does not apply to

616
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,200
existing properties. And it's as simple

617
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,960
as this. And I will preface this with we

618
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,080
work with all of the cities to adopt

619
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,360
these ordinances because we recognize

620
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,760
that it's not a one-size-fits-all.

621
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,360
And there's a lot of flexibility with

622
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,880
it. And one of my colleagues is the

623
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,920
person who works closely with the cities

624
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,680
to help them figure out what ordinances

625
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,800
exactly, how to word it, will fit for

626
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840
the municipality. So, these are the bare

627
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,840
minimum. Is no lawn in park strips. And

628
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,440
I noticed Grantsville doesn't have a ton

629
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,000
of park strips, so that shouldn't be too

630
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,320
difficult.

631
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,040
No lawn in areas less than 8 ft wide.

632
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,360
And then lawn limitations for the front

633
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:52,840
yards. So,

634
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,680
half of the front yard and side yard

635
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,440
landscaped areas

636
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,040
uh be more than half of it being grass.

637
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,280
Uh and then there's some exceptions for

638
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,560
those really small lots, especially for

639
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,600
multi-family housing. And then some lawn

640
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,120
limitations for the commercial,

641
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,520
industrial, and institutional properties

642
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,440
that have large properties. We don't

643
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,760
want it all grass. Uh that takes a lot

644
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,280
of water. We want to be intentional

645
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,600
about how we're landscaping because uh

646
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,280
it uses

647
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,440
uh usually up to like 75 70% more water

648
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,840
than the water-wise landscaping.

649
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,442
Go ahead to the next.

650
00:25:29,442 --> 00:25:29,560
>> [snorts]

651
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,600
>> And this is what it looks like in

652
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,360
practice. A lot of people get really

653
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,800
nervous about these ordinances and what

654
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,120
it will look like, and they don't want

655
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,400
all rock, they don't want all

656
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,480
desert-looking stuff, they want grass to

657
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,400
be able to play on. And again, this only

658
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,320
applies to the front yard. So, you'll

659
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,880
see on the left-hand side there's still

660
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,200
grass. There's just not grass going up

661
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,160
to the fence or the house. That's

662
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,040
landscaped with water-wise landscaping,

663
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,360
and then the park strip is just plants.

664
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:56,040
And we see a lot of water-wise plants as

665
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,790
well as trees in the landscape.

666
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,280
The ordinance is is the first step to

667
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,240
letting residents become eligible for

668
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,200
this program. So, you adopt those

669
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,240
ordinances, and you send that to us for

670
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,080
review. And we work with you. It doesn't

671
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,760
cost the city anything to do this. Uh

672
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,520
and then we add you to our eligibility

673
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,720
list.

674
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,800
The role that you have is just upholding

675
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,640
those ordinances.

676
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,720
And how you enforce those is up to you.

677
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,680
And let's see. And program promotion,

678
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,240
you don't have to do that, but you're

679
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,840
welcome to if you want to promote the

680
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,000
program to your residents. Uh we

681
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,520
appreciate it. We think it's great. It's

682
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,120
a great water conservation tool. Uh and

683
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:39,840
then we are the ones that are running

684
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,120
this program. You don't have to do

685
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,040
anything. If people ask you questions,

686
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,160
you can direct them to us. Uh but

687
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,720
really, we're the ones that answer the

688
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,360
phone calls, we schedule appointments,

689
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,080
we process the applications, and we run

690
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,280
this entire program, and it's there's no

691
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:59,230
cost associated to the city itself.

692
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,960
These are some of our resources that we

693
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,920
have available for the participants. You

694
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,680
don't have to participate in the program

695
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,160
to be able to access these. These are

696
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,200
readily available on our website.

697
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,760
However, we do send uh customized emails

698
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,760
to participants, especially along the

699
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,520
way while they're doing their project,

700
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,120
to really support them throughout this

701
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,600
project as well as aftercare and the

702
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,520
maintenance of it because we don't want

703
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,080
people to go through the program and

704
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,800
then get frustrated when they are not

705
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,680
sure what to do once everything's

706
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,680
installed. So, we do have a landscape

707
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,760
guide

708
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,080
as well as a monthly webinar series. Uh

709
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,640
all of these are free. We do include a

710
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,880
landscape incentive program checklist of

711
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,760
what they need to do.

712
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,640
And we do have a statewide water wise

713
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,800
plant list available.

714
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,280
We are a Localscapes partner.

715
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,240
Localscapes is a partner education

716
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,320
program that provides It's the education

717
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,920
component to the landscape incentive

718
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,960
program.

719
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Uh provides education for

720
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,320
water wise landscaping, and those

721
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,680
classes can be found either online, or

722
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,600
we will even work with you to provide it

723
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,600
to your community. So, we'll come to you

724
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,880
and teach a class completely free. Uh

725
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600
and it's tailored to your region. So,

726
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,440
it's not Wasatch Front, it's for

727
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,960
Grantsville specifically.

728
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,600
And then we are a WaterSense EPA

729
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,640
WaterSense partner, and they do have a

730
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,680
fantastic certified irrigators list for

731
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,480
qualified water efficient landscapers

732
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,750
available.

733
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,720
This is all of our contact information.

734
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,320
If you have questions, specific

735
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,880
questions, we're happy to answer them.

736
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,400
Candace is the colleague I mentioned

737
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,480
that helps review these ordinances and

738
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,480
works side by side with the cities to be

739
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,760
able to get those in place. Madison is

740
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,320
our uh program coordinator over the

741
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,184
landscape incentive program.

742
00:28:51,184 --> 00:28:51,400
>> [snorts]

743
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,240
>> Uh I help coordinate and teach our local

744
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400
scape classes and develop those

745
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,280
landscape resources. And then our two

746
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600
technicians help deliver the program and

747
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,200
process those applications. And our

748
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920
contact information can be found there.

749
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Are there any questions that I can

750
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,560
answer?

751
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,400
>> I have one little question. You You

752
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,680
mentioned no annuals.

753
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,000
So, if somebody has mostly perennials,

754
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,520
but they include some annuals, they're

755
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,080
out like you're out.

756
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,920
>> No, that. So, we just encourage

757
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,800
that annuals be planted either in their

758
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,280
own bed or in pots, not mixed in with

759
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,320
the perennials, but that won't

760
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,360
disqualify them from the program. Okay.

761
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,080
No, good question.

762
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,560
>> And does the ordinance just allow us to

763
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,080
participate in this if people want to?

764
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,520
It just says the ordinance would be

765
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,680
structured to say, if a citizen wanted

766
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,320
to, then our city would qualify and that

767
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,840
puts us the best It wouldn't be

768
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,200
mandatory for anybody to do this. It

769
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,960
would just be if they

770
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,920
>> No, the landscape incentive program is

771
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,920
the incentive piece. It's meant to

772
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,600
incentivize

773
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,040
properties that already exist, that

774
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,960
already have those landscapes. They are

775
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,000
not required to do this. It is not a

776
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,520
mandatory program by any means.

777
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,560
>> So, the ordinance would just be allowing

778
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,640
us then to participate.

779
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,360
>> Yeah, so the ordinances are for the new

780
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,560
construction only. We're trying not to

781
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,480
waste tax dollars as well as um

782
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,440
it's kind of like chasing our tail.

783
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,360
We're trying to fix a problem, but not

784
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,920
preventing the problem from happening

785
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,080
anymore. And so, we're trying to

786
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,760
uh reduce that uh inefficiency. So,

787
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,760
we're not creating new problems. Those

788
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,840
landscapes look great, they're

789
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,280
efficient, and then uh incentivizing the

790
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840
existing landscapes to be more

791
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,920
efficient.

792
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,960
>> So, the incentive is just to for

793
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,200
clarification, the incentive is just for

794
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,840
existing landscapes, correct?

795
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,600
>> Yes, it only it is only for existing

796
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,040
landscapes. It is not for new

797
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:46,920
construction.

798
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:47,720
>> Okay.

799
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,270
>> Yeah, great question.

800
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,000
Any other questions or concerns that I

801
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,470
can address?

802
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040
» No Heidi, thank you for being here. Um,

803
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,640
I we've had some residents express

804
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,720
interest in this and because we're not

805
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,960
on a on that, you know, we don't qualify

806
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,040
in that incentive.

807
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,440
They don't have the option to be able to

808
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,360
do this and so

809
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000
the I mean obviously it it ought to be

810
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,160
the division of limited water quality,

811
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,000
you know, limited water because we live

812
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,800
in the fifth driest state in the nation.

813
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,520
So, but it

814
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,440
um, finding ways uh

815
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680
to allow our residents to convert some

816
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,480
of that the some of those areas into an

817
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,680
and take it opportunity for this program

818
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,600
was the reason why

819
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,680
I wanted to when we wanted to see if the council would have interest in

820
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,360
doing that. What that means is, you

821
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,200
know, ensuring that

822
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,520
you know, the the we we align with those other four items that were listed

823
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,320
there if there was any concerns on

824
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,280
those. So

825
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,680
>> need to change our code

826
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,520
to align with that.

827
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,000
Uniquely Alexis had been working on

828
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,240
getting a draft that prepared for

829
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,800
council. So

830
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,880
Uh, Jay brought this up and our council

831
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,880
member

832
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,360
almost brought this up and so we thought

833
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,480
it would be a good idea before Alexis

834
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,960
got all the way through that process to gauge the interest was what council

835
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,990
wanted to do and take that direction.

836
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,560
» I think that's a good idea.

837
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,840
I think I like the education portion

838
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,560
too. I'm not a gardener at all. So like

839
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,640
when you say water wise, I don't even

840
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,160
know what that means. So I'm like so

841
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,520
having somebody to go like what would be

842
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,400
good here, what what what qualifies? I

843
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,800
think that's super helpful for people.

844
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,200
And yeah, I mean water's a big issue. So

845
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,120
>> is.

846
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,920
>> Do you go out to [clears throat]

847
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,720
different cities and do classes or all

848
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,840
webinar? city.

849
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,800
>> Um, we do an annual webinar, but we do

850
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,040
individual classes as needed. So, if you

851
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,840
would like one, I'm more than happy to

852
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,640
coordinate with you on one. Um, for

853
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,400
example, we're teaching one in Tooele on

854
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Monday. You're welcome to come if you'd

855
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,640
like, see what it's about. Um,

856
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560
and we're focusing on they wanted to

857
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,160
focus on native plants for Tooele County

858
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,680
specifically, so that's what we're

859
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,600
doing. Uh, so we're happy to curate or

860
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,360
uh

861
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,800
specialize the class to fit whatever

862
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,000
your residents and your community needs

863
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,240
are. We want to make sure that it's

864
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,280
impactful and a good use of everyone's

865
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,960
time.

866
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,120
>> Okay, right. The the city can with their

867
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,440
properties can participate in the

868
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,360
program.

869
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800
>> Yes. Um, the parks cannot, the golf

870
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920
courses cannot, but like this building

871
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,600
here, you could easily participate in

872
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,000
this program. Yes.

873
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,520
>> And there's other incentive programs as

874
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,440
well, like for I think they're I think I

875
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,800
did one

876
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,240
um, that was for uh electronic like a

877
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,040
smart

878
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,440
>> Yeah, the smart controllers.

879
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:40,760
>> controller

880
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,680
>> Those are available to anyone anytime.

881
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,240
You don't have to live in a specific

882
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,240
city to be able to do those. But yes, we

883
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,040
do offer a rebate of up to $125 for a

884
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,240
smart irrigation controller.

885
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,040
So, if you want a new irrigation

886
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,520
controller for your home, I highly

887
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,310
recommend it.

888
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,560
» What's that like council wanting to see

889
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,440
a draft and go forward on? So, I'll have

890
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,280
that.

891
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,240
>> I think so.

892
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,320
>> that application that change.

893
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,120
>> Okay.

894
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Thank you.

895
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,879
>> Sounds great. Thank you so much for your

896
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:11,320
time.

897
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,280
>> Thank you. And thanks Jake for reaching

898
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,760
out to the Division of Water Resources and

899
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,030
getting this information for us.

900
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,679
All right.

901
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,280
Item number six is a council appeal

902
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,919
decision, consideration of resolution

903
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:30,240
2026-38

904
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,480
approving a driveway deviation for the

905
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:38,310
property located at 48 McMichael Avenue.

906
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,399
» Um, so this is a secondary access

907
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:45,800
property. So, McMichael is just kind of

908
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,720
it's east of Sinclair.

909
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:49,120
For those of you that don't know exactly

910
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,720
where that's at.

911
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:51,439
Um, [clears throat]

912
00:34:51,439 --> 00:34:52,080
>> [sighs]

913
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,960
>> we received a application on March 20th

914
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,720
after the staff

915
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:58,320
reviewed it and we became aware of what

916
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,520
the original driveway used to look like.

917
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,520
And it was expanded without

918
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,160
um, city authorization,

919
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,800
um,

920
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,080
you know, then we just began to work

921
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,440
with the applicant. There was a

922
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,560
violation for the meter box. The

923
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,760
applicant

924
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,320
did a cut after we brought that to their

925
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,240
attention. They did cut the driveway um,

926
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:20,000
the two feet around two or three feet

927
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,120
around the meter that is required. Um,

928
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,520
so they have done that. We're just here

929
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,200
for city council to determine if they're

930
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,600
going to allow the driveway to stay

931
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,360
built how it is

932
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,040
or if they are going to require it to be

933
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,640
brought to city standards. So, a few

934
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,600
issues that we need to address. And if

935
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,120
you'll scroll down to the pictures.

936
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,600
There is a

937
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,480
pipe that runs underneath the driveway

938
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,760
cuz the driveway actually comes out

939
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,360
further than what the gutter is.

940
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,280
And um,

941
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,600
and so it is sized on the smaller side

942
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,240
of things and that was a concern of the

943
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,720
engineer and then there is a concern how

944
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:03,320
the driveway comes out um,

945
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,440
past the curb and gutter and it actually

946
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,200
comes out into the roadway.

947
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,640
A a maybe a few inches.

948
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,960
>> Sorry, it's

949
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,200
glitching.

950
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,280
>> You're fine. So, I did the same thing

951
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:22,390
yesterday.

952
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,830
So, keep going.

953
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:26,720
» This one?

954
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,400
>> Um, that's a good picture to of show the

955
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,720
overall view in the front edge, um, and

956
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,200
then just kind of how wide the driveway

957
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,160
is.

958
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,560
If you would keep scrolling.

959
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,920
Right there in those pictures.

960
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,240
So, you can see that's initially what

961
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,080
the, uh, water meter looked like. Again,

962
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,040
the applicant did cut that and and

963
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,840
address that situation and then scroll

964
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,720
down just to that bottom picture.

965
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,280
Yep. So, you can see how it comes past,

966
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,440
um,

967
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,640
the curb pan or the gutter pan.

968
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,280
I don't know if it's 4 to 6 in

969
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,800
and then you can see

970
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,240
>> slightly

971
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,120
Here, there's a water bottle blocking

972
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,880
it, but here is

973
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,800
that pipe.

974
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,120
And so, you can see what we're losing as

975
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,960
far as the capacity of that

976
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:20,770
curb cutter.

977
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:22,520
» [clears throat and cough]

978
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,680
>> And so, you can see what the driveway

979
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,560
originally looked like.

980
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,640
Um, and then it's expanded from the

981
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,280
walkway, uh, over to the property line

982
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:38,470
to the north.

983
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,200
» So, just

984
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,400
making sure I have it straight. They

985
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,240
sent in an application to the city

986
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,800
for this project, but we didn't realize

987
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,636
that

988
00:37:47,636 --> 00:37:47,680
>> [clears throat]

989
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,240
>> it was going to be this large or it

990
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:50,880
didn't say on the application.

991
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,960
>> No, so, um, there was a violation

992
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,160
uh, with the water meter and then we've

993
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,360
asked to correct the water meter, then

994
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,080
there was a driveway issue and then the

995
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,160
applicant has been working with staff

996
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,680
with an application, but the issues are

997
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,520
that the driveway is expanding past the

998
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,280
curb the gutter pan, um, it has the the

999
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,880
smaller diameter pipe and then it

1000
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,000
extends all the way to the north

1001
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,990
along the property line.

1002
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,840
So, if you scroll up, um, in the staff

1003
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,020
report, we actually give the

1004
00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:24,880
[clears throat] timeline.

1005
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,040
Keep going. Now, that's the violation.

1006
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,920
Keep going.

1007
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,830
One more, I believe.

1008
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Nope, keep going. Past the picture.

1009
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,240
That one.

1010
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,640
Nope, keep going. Sorry.

1011
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,590
Keep going.

1012
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,280
Right here. So, August 25th, 2025,

1013
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,120
initial violation. November 13th, the

1014
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,760
second violation. January 23rd, a

1015
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,480
certified letter. March 3rd, a site

1016
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,000
visit was conducted with the code

1017
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,720
enforcement officer,

1018
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:00,480
um,

1019
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,720
and the property owner, and attempt to

1020
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,680
contact the property owner.

1021
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,670
Then, scroll down.

1022
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,800
March 13th, the code enforcement officer

1023
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,840
made contact with the property owner.

1024
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,560
March 20th, the meter box was corrected

1025
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,040
and the applicant submitted, um, for the

1026
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,320
secondary driveway.

1027
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,640
Um,

1028
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,400
April 26th, the application was reviewed

1029
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,320
by the department heads, and May 5th,

1030
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,720
the applicant was notified that the

1031
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:28,120
driveway secondary access did not meet

1032
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,760
the requirements of the land use

1033
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,360
ordinance, and needed to seek a

1034
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,150
deviation through city council.

1035
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,280
» So, Shabley, on this timeline in Michael

1036
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,280
such an old road, how long has it been

1037
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,240
like this?

1038
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,600
When was the cement or the addition?

1039
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,720
>> Um, the applicant is here and might be

1040
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:49,040
able to answer that. I could look at

1041
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,080
Google Earth and kind of give you a

1042
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:57,510
timeline.

1043
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,680
» Uh, I've noticed I've noticed these on

1044
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,640
that street. There's actually more than

1045
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,240
one, um,

1046
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,040
that have this.

1047
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,520
And Tooele has areas, older parts of

1048
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,082
Tooele has this

1049
00:40:11,082 --> 00:40:11,800
>> [clears throat and cough]

1050
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,320
>> where they have a really aggressive

1051
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,760
gutter system near some

1052
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,200
residential homes, and so they create a

1053
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,200
um, um

1054
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,320
a bridge essentially over that over that

1055
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,880
gutter system.

1056
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,880
The gutter system on McMichael is not

1057
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200
that deep. So, I

1058
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,880
I'm not sure

1059
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,840
what the purpose of those would be and

1060
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,400
there are some concerns when you place

1061
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,360
them in in that setting. I don't want to

1062
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,440
get totally off topic here, but

1063
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,560
um if if the water's not allowed to pass

1064
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,480
there and it gets clogged up and it ends

1065
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,560
up building in that area and then pushes

1066
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:52,800
onto the roadway and it will ruin the asphalt in those areas

1067
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,840
um

1068
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,360
because the water's not, you know,

1069
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,280
guttering as it should be. But is this

1070
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,720
is an old this is an old street, so

1071
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:03,000
um one of the

1072
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,600
maybe the initial curb and gutters and

1073
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,680
then we went away from it and then we've

1074
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,480
gotten back to it, which was you know, I

1075
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,840
don't know why we ever went away from

1076
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,520
it. It's it's the best way to go if you can do

1077
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,720
it. So, but this isn't the only home

1078
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,360
that has that issue in that street. So,

1079
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,800
I guess what we're looking at

1080
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:27,560
specifically tonight is just the secondary access, correct?

1081
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,560
>> Um

1082
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,440
you're not [clears throat] looking at

1083
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,400
>> the deviation of the driveway.

1084
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,440
>> You're looking at he's expanded or they

1085
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,520
have expanded the driveway

1086
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,600
wider than what is allowed per our code.

1087
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,920
So, you're looking at that seeing if

1088
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,800
you're going to allow that deviation.

1089
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,280
They are

1090
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,360
right up against the property line and

1091
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,920
so they have um expanded expanded that,

1092
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,600
which is against the code.

1093
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,760
Then the pipe sizing wasn't um you know,

1094
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,840
engineered or looked at to determine if

1095
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,720
that was the correct pipe size.

1096
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:02,950
And so it just doesn't meet

1097
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,120
city standards.

1098
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,400
>> I mean, if you look at the original

1099
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,480
photo

1100
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,880
it has the bridge out to the road too

1101
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,320
and it doesn't even look like there's

1102
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,800
>> Yeah, it looks better in the ground too

1103
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,000
than it does

1104
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,224
>> original.

1105
00:42:14,224 --> 00:42:14,880
>> [clears throat]

1106
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,280
>> The problem is is that that will divert

1107
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,240
the water into the road. And when the

1108
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:20,920
water goes into the road, it'll start

1109
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,600
tearing the earth.

1110
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,520
Getting into the asphalt and it cause

1111
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,040
more repair damage.

1112
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,640
>> Yeah, I mean I get that, but I'm looking

1113
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,120
at like the original and it looks like

1114
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,440
it's

1115
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,480
built.

1116
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,720
Yeah, you can see that on that top

1117
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,720
photo.

1118
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,280
>> to me it probably I mean I I think it

1119
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,240
was done this way not not because of the

1120
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:40,400
depth of the gutter. It was probably

1121
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,240
done this way cuz it was like

1122
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:43,840
I've got a curb there and rather than

1123
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,360
just cut the curb

1124
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,000
rather than just cut the curbs on these

1125
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,400
is like we built a ramp over the curb,

1126
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,720
which

1127
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,590
um

1128
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:56,560
» Yeah.

1129
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,390
>> what should be done.

1130
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,480
» And I mean elevations and you know, it

1131
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,880
may have been too steep. It's a pretty

1132
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,160
steep

1133
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,960
uh driveway.

1134
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,080
Um

1135
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,280
you know, elevations may have been

1136
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,160
difficult to kind of get that that

1137
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,430
transition.

1138
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,400
» So when they remodeled this a a permit

1139
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,920
should have been pulled.

1140
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,320
>> Correct.

1141
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,360
>> So what's that permit process? Is there

1142
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,200
a concept presented to you guys? Is

1143
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400
there how how does that work? Cuz I see

1144
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,280
this is coming to us more often in

1145
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,440
planning commission, too. These second

1146
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,600
driveways I don't know if it's just cuz

1147
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,800
we have the code enforcement officer

1148
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,640
now, but we're seeing more and more of

1149
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,600
these.

1150
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,080
So

1151
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,880
kind of tell me what that process is and

1152
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,760
then too, what can we do to prevent

1153
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,600
>> Education.

1154
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,680
>> these yeah, it will to keep from coming

1155
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,520
to us every week every two weeks.

1156
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,760
>> No, absolutely. So um if someone wants

1157
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,680
to widen their driveway or or expand it

1158
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,920
or have a secondary access, they can

1159
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,280
either call in um or they can apply

1160
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,400
online and they'll submit it can be a

1161
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,560
hand drawn um site plan. Typically

1162
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,720
Nicole or I will jump on um you know,

1163
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:03,280
Google Earth screenshot and put it into

1164
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,960
Bluebeam so that we can um

1165
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,840
draw out the site plan and and measure

1166
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,440
it and scale it. Um after we've done

1167
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,560
that and payment has been received and

1168
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,120
we review this every Thursday. So, right

1169
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,960
away permits, secondary accesses, things

1170
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,880
like that, every Thursday.

1171
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,360
Um we'll review [clears throat] it.

1172
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,920
We'll determine if it meets code. If

1173
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,400
changes need to be made, we'll send

1174
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,080
those comments back to the applicant and

1175
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,040
then they determine okay, we will adjust

1176
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,640
that um portion of the driveway or we

1177
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,240
want to come to council to ask for a

1178
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:34,760
deviation.

1179
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,920
And a lot of times um

1180
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,920
they would like to just come to council

1181
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:45,390
and ask for the deviation.

1182
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,000
So, we do have driveway standards. Um

1183
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,520
you know, with chapter six, I did revise

1184
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,160
them, so they were

1185
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,880
a little easier to read and understand

1186
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,400
and it spelled it out of what we need

1187
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,440
and um the approval process.

1188
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,080
Um we are working on um getting

1189
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,320
community and development a Facebook so

1190
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,440
that we can post consistently of hey,

1191
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,040
you know, if you want to expand your

1192
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,680
driveway or you want a secondary access,

1193
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,040
you need to follow these steps. Here's

1194
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,120
the link.

1195
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,120
Or you know, hey, this is the code

1196
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,240
enforcement for weeds.

1197
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:19,790
Things like that.

1198
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,520
» We got a comment and a question.

1199
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,470
>> Is that the applicant?

1200
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,080
» Hi.

1201
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,760
state your name, please.

1202
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,280
>> I'm Antonio Vargas.

1203
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:30,680
>> Thank you.

1204
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,920
>> I'm the resident from 48 Michael.

1205
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,800
Actually, before I did the driveway

1206
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,960
I asked

1207
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,280
uh

1208
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,760
What's his name? Uh

1209
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,280
Perkins. The

1210
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,360
uh

1211
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,480
>> Lyle.

1212
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,840
Perkins. The

1213
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,560
I said, "Did I need a permit to put in

1214
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,560
my driveway?"

1215
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,040
You know, he said

1216
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,480
"No, I don't think you need a permit. Go

1217
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,320
ahead, do it."

1218
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,720
I asked for a permit if I needed a

1219
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:01,840
permit before I did it.

1220
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,600
And now I don't see what is wrong with

1221
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,960
the driveway.

1222
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,120
She said it was bottle clogging the

1223
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,360
line.

1224
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,520
I put a big 4-in pipe. You can see all

1225
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,800
the neighbors

1226
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,600
to the south, it's all garbage in it in

1227
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,960
the gutters.

1228
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,480
It's that a quarter is going to clock

1229
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,400
it. I If they don't clean it,

1230
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,480
walk to the neighborhood and watch how

1231
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,520
dirty they are.

1232
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,040
I'm not going to throw the

1233
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,520
you know, blame on people, but

1234
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,280
what's wrong with the driveway?

1235
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,640
I asked the neighbor if I can put the

1236
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,760
fence

1237
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,920
over the driveway.

1238
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,680
I didn't do it just because I want to do

1239
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,390
it.

1240
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,360
I said we're going to benefit your

1241
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,360
property and my property. And I didn't

1242
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560
ask him for money or anything. I asked

1243
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:58,230
for permission to pick and do it.

1244
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,760
If you will see

1245
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,120
when your dad house was built,

1246
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,560
it was built in 1954.

1247
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,240
You bring the code from that time to

1248
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,240
this time.

1249
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,440
Apply the code. But back in that days,

1250
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,550
they didn't have any code.

1251
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,080
» I think the the concern of the issue is

1252
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,560
obviously when you lengthen the

1253
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,640
driveway, when you lengthen that

1254
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,640
driveway, you're creating

1255
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,280
less distance between drive to drive.

1256
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,920
And it creates a safety issue. This is a

1257
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,160
through road. Um

1258
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,680
>> But I see people that have water meters

1259
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,360
in their driveways.

1260
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,960
And then, are you guys going to make

1261
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,760
everybody do that?

1262
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,720
>> Yeah, they're not allowed in the

1263
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:40,880
right-of-way.

1264
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,320
>> See, it's the same same thing. They

1265
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,440
asked They sent me letters to

1266
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,720
They didn't send it to me.

1267
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,960
They sent it to the previous owner. They

1268
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,920
didn't connect the One of the officers

1269
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,920
went and knocked my door. It was kind of

1270
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,440
mean, like a why you not answer my my

1271
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,000
uh

1272
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,160
that I I send it to you say when you

1273
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,240
send it. I went to the post office they

1274
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:07,430
didn't receive any letters from from me.

1275
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,238
I'm not doing anything illegal. I try

1276
00:48:09,238 --> 00:48:12,390
[clears throat] to do everything legal.

1277
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,360
» No, I think when this happens it it

1278
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,520
>> What is you know, I am proving the

1279
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,560
house. The only thing I do anything.

1280
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,640
I don't know anything wrong with the

1281
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,040
house.

1282
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,520
I try to do the best I can have my house

1283
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,120
looking good the way I want it look. I

1284
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,880
don't want to have a trash home. I want

1285
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,320
to clean my clean house.

1286
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,800
Go drive around the neighborhood check

1287
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,590
the neighbors.

1288
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,120
I can show you picture I have a neighbor

1289
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,480
behind me.

1290
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,560
I have to weed as best as I all the time

1291
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,480
because

1292
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,920
rats

1293
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,550
everything comes to my property.

1294
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,160
Are you guys going to do that? Check the

1295
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,640
neighborhood.

1296
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,320
And see how that looks like.

1297
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,630
I don't want to put fingers on anybody.

1298
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,280
The only thing I do on

1299
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,480
to have a nice driveway I can park my

1300
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,200
car because I want to park on the

1301
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,110
street.

1302
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,640
» How wide is the drive How wide is How

1303
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,440
wide is the width of the drive that

1304
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,880
we're looking at?

1305
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,840
>> I believe it was 41 ft. There's a

1306
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:21,510
picture of measurements.

1307
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,800
» Even I ask Lyle if I can pull them a

1308
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,320
little come over to the side so you can

1309
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,320
pass a little ramp with a small car so

1310
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,870
probably hit in the front.

1311
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,280
» You can go to another second picture.

1312
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:50,070
Approximately 41 ft has expanded.

1313
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,280
» Did you say the pipe wasn't the

1314
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,600
appropriate size?

1315
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,280
>> It's the proper size. I see pipes as

1316
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,920
more than my pipe is a 4-in pipe.

1317
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,280
>> Well, what I'm saying per city code, is

1318
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,080
it big enough?

1319
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,000
>> It would need to be engineered to

1320
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,560
determine how big it needs to be.

1321
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,560
>> I I put a different size in the other ones that

1322
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,160
along the the road. I see the other ones

1323
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,040
are little pipes. And then the the funny

1324
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,600
part, every time it rains, I have to be

1325
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,080
cleaning all the debris that comes from

1326
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,480
the other neighbors cuz they clocks the

1327
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,400
lines.

1328
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,280
>> Okay,

1329
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,000
yeah, to that one. Uh

1330
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,240
yeah, and then scroll down to the back

1331
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:21,800
of the back of the house.

1332
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,000
>> I think honestly, our biggest concern

1333
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,880
really

1334
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,120
>> Is that last piece.

1335
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,640
>> It is this

1336
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,520
section here.

1337
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,120
>> Yeah.

1338
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,760
>> Really, it sticks out for the potential

1339
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:31,880
to catch that.

1340
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,440
>> Well, you can Yeah, you can see what

1341
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,120
it's doing to the asphalt, right? I

1342
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,360
mean, that's exactly what I was just

1343
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,840
explaining. It's that that area you can

1344
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:40,080
see

1345
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,680
>> The original the other the other section

1346
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,760
on the other side, they used to be that

1347
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,720
over there. I didn't if they was already

1348
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:46,960
that way.

1349
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,000
So, the only thing I did is add into the

1350
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,360
to it.

1351
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,080
was already there, the other side.

1352
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,120
You can see the the partial part over

1353
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,150
there in the other side.

1354
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,760
See, the the reason I put it that way

1355
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,840
because there was the rocks.

1356
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,280
You step on the rocks, you twist your

1357
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,520
ankles.

1358
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,280
Just the Just look at pictures before

1359
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:15,905
and and after.

1360
00:51:15,915 --> 00:51:17,760
» [clears throat and cough]

1361
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,200
>> I asked the neighbor if I can put in my driveway

1362
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,600
along the property line and I can put a

1363
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,120
fence on top because my I had to put it

1364
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:42,550
you know, get cars in the back.

1365
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,400
It is you will see at the other section

1366
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,000
will be the same thing but it's on this

1367
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,200
side, they had the same size pipe. I

1368
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,200
have a 4-in pipe.

1369
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,760
The only thing that the thing is like

1370
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,160
all the stuff right there because it

1371
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,320
comes when it rains, there comes this

1372
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,040
way and everything all that I have to go

1373
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,560
and then start cleaning all the debris

1374
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,640
because you can see bushes all over

1375
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,840
along the side. Just from my property to

1376
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,720
the south, check every neighbor and see

1377
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,000
if they Oh, how all those weeds growing

1378
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,750
in the in the in the gutters.

1379
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,200
Because all the rocks and everything

1380
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,320
from the neighbors come through and it

1381
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,470
clogs the lines.

1382
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,720
» Shelby, what would what would need to be

1383
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:23,240
done to make it to code? Like what would have to rip it out completely

1384
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:24,960
or what would be a remedy?

1385
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,080
>> No, I mean a a remedy would be to um

1386
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,840
you know

1387
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,520
to to make it to meet code, yeah, he

1388
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,240
would have to rip out 6 ft uh

1389
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:41,150
>> On your side?

1390
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,910
» Oh, go back to

1391
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,200
You have to rip out like 6 ft here just

1392
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,840
on this panel

1393
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,280
uh to meet the code. So, 6 ft away and

1394
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,840
then just

1395
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,240
to fix it. He'd probably have to in

1396
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:56,720
order to

1397
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,200
>> They have a bigger driveway over where

1398
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,920
they have the dog take care over there

1399
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,200
in the corner.

1400
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,520
What's what's the difference?

1401
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,480
>> He had probably pull out this panel and

1402
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,280
then

1403
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,600
shorten it to get the whole

1404
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,640
to meet this.

1405
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,000
Or what you would have to do instead of

1406
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,680
cutting this and then patching this but

1407
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,080
that you wouldn't want just like a

1408
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,160
little patch here. You would

1409
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,280
typically bring that asphalt patch all

1410
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,360
the way out. If you just patch that, 4

1411
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,840
to 6 in is going to blow out.

1412
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,440
>> I can put it something over there and if

1413
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,280
they want it

1414
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:37,790
I's not they want to do it.

1415
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,000
I do want to see more sessions in this

1416
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,400
to the other side. The same thing is the

1417
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,040
pipe is smaller than my pipe.

1418
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,360
It's not the point that you know the

1419
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,080
water doesn't have any way to go. The

1420
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,200
thing is all the debris from the that

1421
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,960
comes from

1422
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,880
the neighbors they start coming this way

1423
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,120
and then clog the lines.

1424
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,640
It's not because that's the guy all the leaves and everything that clogs

1425
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,120
because they don't pick the leaves.

1426
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,880
I've been cleaning all the time. Go wash

1427
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,680
right now. I tried [clears throat] every

1428
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,790
week to clean it.

1429
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,280
I tried cleaning it but the others don't

1430
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,920
clean it. It's going to It's going to

1431
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,350
do.

1432
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,720
» Yeah, it is a very narrow gutter system

1433
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:24,520
on that street anyway, that's for sure.

1434
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,360
And having the extra driveway I realize

1435
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,600
it's 6 ft too long but I travel this

1436
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,280
road often and

1437
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,480
all the cars on the road are very

1438
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,440
It's hard to navigate down McMichael

1439
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,400
when

1440
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,360
there's cars parked on both sides of the

1441
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,360
street. So having an extra place for

1442
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,120
vehicles to be off the street is

1443
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,760
very advantageous on that narrow road.

1444
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,360
>> on the street because you know they have

1445
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,640
the snow plow trucks and mail

1446
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,280
and on the [clears throat] street I

1447
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,320
don't want to be you know mail guy get

1448
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,360
pissed off because they

1449
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,440
blocking the mailbox.

1450
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:09,088
>> Could you scroll down the page 18?

1451
00:55:09,098 --> 00:55:11,550
» [clears throat]

1452
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,040
» Just go

1453
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,040
opposite view you can see the

1454
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,880
pipe in there. It's looks bigger on this

1455
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,510
end than it does that other end but

1456
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,508
» As soon as it comes out we'll see.

1457
00:55:23,508 --> 00:55:24,400
>> [laughter]

1458
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:34,880
>> I'm sorry.

1459
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,720
Waste of time.

1460
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:37,560
Yeah.

1461
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,270
>> yeah.

1462
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,790
» This whole thing is going to blow.

1463
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,240
We definitely built him.

1464
00:55:48,240 --> 00:56:09,348
Thank you.

1465
00:56:09,358 --> 00:56:12,310
» [clears throat]

1466
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,960
» And we have a legal driveways all over

1467
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,120
town.

1468
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,120
>> Yeah, well, there's

1469
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,080
the house above that one has the same

1470
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,440
issue.

1471
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,800
Um

1472
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,280
so I that's the frustrating part is it's

1473
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,400
like almost like this street just

1474
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,840
decided to kind of just roll however we

1475
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,520
wanted to roll. And I know it's they're much older homes.

1476
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,760
But

1477
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,280
like the home above also has [snorts] their drive and then they

1478
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,600
have like a spot where they park a truck

1479
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,270
that's

1480
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:44,960
» Correct.

1481
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,080
>> also

1482
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,560
>> Yeah, no, you you are correct. And

1483
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,080
that's the hard part is

1484
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,040
>> So

1485
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,280
>> is in 2015 that was already established

1486
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,880
versus in 2004, 2005-ish when this was

1487
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,600
when that driveway was expanded, that's

1488
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,040
when our code was into effect. So yeah,

1489
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,040
you're going to see driveways that are

1490
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,120
legal non-conforming

1491
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,560
versus driveways newer driveways that

1492
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,520
now we're catching going, "Hey, we need

1493
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,840
to follow the process." And it is it is

1494
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,600
hard.

1495
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,720
>> I didn't I didn't know the driveway guys

1496
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:15,840
to do it.

1497
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,240
I asked Leo if I need a permit.

1498
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,200
>> No, I I

1499
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,040
>> And he say, "You don't need a permit." I

1500
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,200
was so happy. I say, "Okay, I can throw

1501
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,560
it in and no problem." I It's not because I don't

1502
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,320
want to pay for the permit.

1503
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,000
You know, I'm more than willing to pay

1504
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,480
for the permit, but you know, after work

1505
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,320
they come and say, "No, you can't have

1506
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,670
your

1507
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,240
You know, this patch of the you know

1508
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,840
>> If it's placed how it should be placed,

1509
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,440
you know, in a in a new build, they

1510
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,680
don't need a permit. They just have to

1511
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:52,080
follow the format that it needs to be built within.

1512
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,160
And this is this is kind of a different

1513
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,560
situation. So, I can see kind of how

1514
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,480
that communication work can take place.

1515
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,800
The issue here is and I guess the

1516
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,080
question I have for you Antonio is more

1517
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,160
Um we need to you know, come

1518
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,000
obviously it looks like you're using all

1519
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,920
of those um

1520
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,760
spaces and coming straight out. How that

1521
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,480
should have been designed or developed

1522
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,520
is narrowed and then opening that up to

1523
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,880
allow you to to pull in and I can tell you tried to make it

1524
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,360
better and

1525
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,800
>> I don't What you say it's wrong with the

1526
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,080
driveway is you know

1527
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,200
I don't have no

1528
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,560
more no rocks.

1529
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,600
No weeds, nothing, you know.

1530
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,320
>> Yeah, the the concern that I'll and I

1531
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,440
kind of mentioned at the start the

1532
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,440
concern I have is that when we do that

1533
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,640
like it just

1534
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,120
it creates areas. There's there's

1535
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,960
designations for where, you know, if someone driving down that street

1536
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,880
they're having to constantly

1537
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,280
you know

1538
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,480
you could have multiple vehicles pulling out in the same area

1539
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,240
and that's why there's you know, that's

1540
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,560
why planning designates those driveways

1541
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,400
and there's separations and separation

1542
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,440
factors in those driveways. It's for

1543
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,240
it's a safety

1544
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,520
>> Yeah, they tell it like when you have a

1545
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,680
separation of the driveways with a heavy

1546
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,520
vehicle it's possible that the

1547
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,880
concrete can

1548
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,920
crack and falls down because the water

1549
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,560
can go underneath.

1550
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,280
So, that one over there the water don't

1551
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,120
go to the neighbor, it comes all the way

1552
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,720
to the street. I have like a little

1553
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,720
uh

1554
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,320
curb right there so the water comes all

1555
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,800
the way to the street. That's it goes to

1556
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,160
the neighbor.

1557
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,720
I put in that purpose. I don't want to

1558
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,160
throw water to the to the neighbors.

1559
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,640
Come into this still my property.

1560
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,200
Every time the rain is comes all the way

1561
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,080
down to the street. Doesn't go to the

1562
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,760
neighbor.

1563
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,560
It's not affecting anything to the

1564
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,480
neighbor. I know people likes to do that

1565
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,800
to the neighbors. Throw the water to the

1566
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,640
neighbor, but I try to prevent from

1567
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,110
having issues with the neighbor.

1568
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,680
So, this put is strong. This is a lot of

1569
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,440
money invested in that driveway. It's

1570
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,510
not one penny.

1571
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,160
And then you can see it's occupied. It's

1572
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:14,910
not empty.

1573
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,040
» Do you have something you'd like to say,

1574
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:21,790
Ben?

1575
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,800
» Ben Henderson, Evansville Street

1576
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,400
Department super- uh supervisor.

1577
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,760
I see a lot of potential for number one,

1578
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,960
when we're doing pushback with snow

1579
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,400
plows,

1580
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,480
that's going to chip. It's That driveway

1581
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,080
is not going to stay in that condition.

1582
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,600
Our plows are going to get damaged when

1583
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,800
we do pushback into the curb.

1584
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,480
And if there's 3 ft of snow and you

1585
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,720
don't see that, you're going to eat a

1586
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,040
windshield, I promise you. And if you've

1587
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,640
ever been plowing and you hit something

1588
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,080
that hard and that abrupt,

1589
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,520
it's it

1590
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,760
lodges you from your seat

1591
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,920
and it will chip the driveway. So,

1592
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,960
um if in a in a sense

1593
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:02,160
on a legal side, which I don't I'm not

1594
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,440
an attorney, but he's accepting the

1595
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,880
right

1596
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,360
to any liability

1597
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,240
in the in our right-of-way

1598
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,480
by doing extending his driveway into our

1599
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,040
right-of-way.

1600
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,200
That's my

1601
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,710
>> Thank you.

1602
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,280
» This might be a really dumb question,

1603
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,040
but is there some type of code,

1604
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,120
ordinance, law, something that says

1605
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,360
they're grandfathered in?

1606
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,040
Like

1607
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:28,800
>> So, yes.

1608
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,080
>> protects the the property owner?

1609
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,360
>> Legal non-conforming use. So, if if that

1610
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,520
driveway was in existence

1611
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,040
in the 1950s, for example, like

1612
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,440
I think that's what was mentioned. Um

1613
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,880
that [clears throat] use or that that

1614
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:47,240
non-conforming uh building um style, the

1615
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:48,960
engineering of that curve that was

1616
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:54,400
allowed in the '50s could remain. The only condition there though is that

1617
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,720
you you cannot expand that use. You can

1618
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,280
maintain it, um but to to expand that

1619
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,560
use would would uh

1620
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,840
would

1621
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,240
remove the the grandfathered status, if

1622
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,080
that's the word. So, it no longer be a

1623
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,800
legal non-conforming use. It'd just be

1624
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,600
non-conforming.

1625
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:17,550
>> Okay.

1626
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,920
» Yeah, I understand it's difficult to try

1627
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:19,920
and have to remove something after

1628
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,080
you've already done it, but I was just

1629
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,920
>> a It was an existing situation already

1630
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,040
like that,

1631
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,520
you know. So, it'll be it will create a

1632
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,440
issue with a snow plow. It should have

1633
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,840
been issued a long time ago, not

1634
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,320
recently.

1635
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,000
And it's And it's it's a more neighbor

1636
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:34,960
to have the same thing.

1637
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,480
>> I'm sorry.

1638
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,560
>> Is it a 6-in highback curb? It's not

1639
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,080
taller than It's It's not an atypical

1640
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:40,960
curb, is it?

1641
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,760
>> No.

1642
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:42,840
>> It's an old facing.

1643
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,880
>> Yeah, it's something that's probably a

1644
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,920
6-in back curb. I might be a four

1645
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,200
by the looks of it. It's an older style.

1646
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,840
It was a highback with a short pan.

1647
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:59,520
>> I don't see any reason to cut to carry over the gutter. I like

1648
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,440
to I there's other areas in which it's happened on that street,

1649
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,480
and I'm not sure

1650
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,360
why because it's it's a typical curb.

1651
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,720
You could just cut the curb down

1652
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,400
and pour your drive approach into the

1653
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,480
back of the curb like you would

1654
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,000
typically do.

1655
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,120
And I appreciate Ben bringing up the

1656
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,800
that that point specifically.

1657
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,360
You'll have a snow plow catch the edge

1658
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,720
of that and that guy will be in his

1659
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,120
front yard. So, um

1660
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,080
you know, there's a reason why

1661
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,280
drives end at the back of the curb and

1662
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,640
not carry into the street. So

1663
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,520
>> I I how that one I hit it when this they

1664
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,920
have cars parked on the street. If

1665
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,480
somebody come and park on the street,

1666
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:40,800
the cars will be in the middle of the

1667
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,320
street.

1668
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:42,960
Cuz they

1669
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,400
>> a different issue though. I mean, cars

1670
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,040
parked on the

1671
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,280
>> Because if they have car car both sizes,

1672
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,720
this snow plow has going to hit that

1673
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:55,350
one.

1674
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,040
» But we're not I I might be off on this,

1675
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,000
but we're not saying

1676
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,720
that we can make him redo the whole

1677
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,880
frontage.

1678
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,720
It's only the new part. It's only the

1679
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,280
>> Yeah. So, there's still going to be a

1680
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,910
bridge there.

1681
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,920
So, so we're going to hit it with the

1682
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,480
plow

1683
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,950
with 6 ft later.

1684
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,240
» Correct.

1685
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,720
>> Yeah.

1686
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,560
>> I haven't seen one year one of the snow

1687
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:27,240
plow.

1688
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,280
>> I I know.

1689
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,520
>> Yeah, we haven't used those.

1690
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,680
We don't use those anymore.

1691
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,040
>> I just think my concern is that it sets

1692
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,280
precedent. If everybody is just like

1693
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,560
we're going to do a deviation, you know,

1694
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:38,960
they do something and then we're

1695
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,800
granting deviations, it sets precedent

1696
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,720
for and and I I know that's it's hard

1697
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,600
when somebody already does it to say fix

1698
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:45,400
it.

1699
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,800
>> I I think the biggest point is the

1700
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,280
education. Um like we need to have a way

1701
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,760
to educate people to understand the

1702
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,400
process and the reasons for the the

1703
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,560
regulations, but I

1704
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,920
>> I I asked for the permit.

1705
01:04:58,920 --> 01:04:59,800
>> I I know you did.

1706
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,360
>> Okay, they will say don't do it this

1707
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,960
way, don't I will not do it.

1708
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,440
>> Yeah.

1709
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,920
>> Honestly, but they told me

1710
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:06,640
>> They told you no.

1711
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,560
>> you don't need it. So, you know, it's

1712
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,360
not like I did it something that

1713
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,960
breaking the law or anything.

1714
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,800
>> No, we understand that.

1715
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,480
>> that.

1716
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,040
>> Yeah.

1717
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,600
>> I I

1718
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,920
My thought is I I'm going to recommend

1719
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,480
to possible table this because I think

1720
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,600
we have a more complicated issue on that

1721
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,720
roadway. I think it probably leads to

1722
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,320
maybe I would like [snorts] to

1723
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,680
investigate it a little bit more.

1724
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,560
I noticed this

1725
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,360
actually for the first time this year,

1726
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,440
but not when it was brought up on this issue

1727
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,200
specifically when I drove up the street

1728
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,840
and I was like that that is weird that

1729
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,320
you have

1730
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,240
if concrete coming into our roadways and

1731
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,600
I noticed and I actually didn't notice

1732
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,480
yours, but I noticed the home up where

1733
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,000
the where it does have smaller pipes.

1734
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,040
They're like 1-in maybe diameter inch

1735
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,120
and a quarter diameter. They looked that. They may have been

1736
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,720
bigger. I don't know, but

1737
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,800
um

1738
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,640
>> Now, when they they sent me uh like

1739
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,320
three letters to

1740
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,440
cut like 2-ft diameter around my meter

1741
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,920
box.

1742
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,440
And I see like three or four down the

1743
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,680
road in the same situation.

1744
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,080
>> But you don't see any new homes with

1745
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,280
that same problem.

1746
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,560
>> I They do, but they have to put metal

1747
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,400
>> Correct, or they have to remove them.

1748
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,160
>> Right. Uh-huh.

1749
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,680
>> Or they have to

1750
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,640
>> But I most of the they I'm doing town

1751
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,560
homes over in 12th Ave. They meters

1752
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,200
right in the driveway.

1753
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,800
But they put in metal collar in it. So

1754
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,640
it make it strong so that it'll

1755
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:36,440
expand.

1756
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,400
>> But I do think we need a solution for

1757
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,600
the whole street. Um

1758
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:41,880
>> I think this one's a little more

1759
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:47,280
>> This yeah, this is not just one house. I remember it was probably gone, but I

1760
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,400
need to There used to be one

1761
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,360
There was a big speed bump.

1762
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,200
>> Yeah.

1763
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,920
there is one that's um that's

1764
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,760
metal. There's a great There's a one

1765
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:00,920
that's a

1766
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,480
like a cast aluminum or a cast

1767
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,200
Yeah, you know, that's a metal ramp. Um

1768
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,520
But I Yeah, I mean my This is That's

1769
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,560
where I feel. I feel like there's more to this one that probably

1770
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,520
needs additional discussion. But that's

1771
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:25,790
my thought.

1772
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,280
» You want to make a motion for that,

1773
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:27,600
Chase?

1774
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,760
>> Yeah, Mayor, I make a motion we move to

1775
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,360
table

1776
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,080
uh resolution 2026-38

1777
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,080
approving a driveway deviation for the

1778
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,120
property located on 48 MacMichael Avenue

1779
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,160
until Council has an opportunity to

1780
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,880
thoroughly review that street.

1781
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,320
>> We have a motion to table item number

1782
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,640
six. Is there a second?

1783
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:49,400
>> I'll second.

1784
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,800
>> A second by Council member Dalton. All

1785
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,800
in favor.

1786
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,040
>> Aye.

1787
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,640
>> Do you have any direction for staff to

1788
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,600
on this far as what you're wanting to us

1789
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,280
to investigate or you're wanting to do

1790
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,440
your own investigations?

1791
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,240
>> And I was going to ask you I mean I'm

1792
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,480
sure you guys have talked about the

1793
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,600
whole street.

1794
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,280
I mean is it only

1795
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,360
Never mind. I'll shut up. What are your

1796
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,280
visions for the whole street?

1797
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,319
>> Yeah, I mean there's the it needs to be

1798
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:17,520
built out. You can see that we're

1799
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,799
missing the sidewalk on that side and

1800
01:08:19,799 --> 01:08:21,480
things like that. So,

1801
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:22,200
um

1802
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,319
I mean we can go back we can hopefully

1803
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:26,120
find the construction plans from this

1804
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,960
older um

1805
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,880
development and and see what we can find

1806
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:30,680
and

1807
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:31,960
why

1808
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,880
a lot of them have these overhead

1809
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,400
driveways and

1810
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,349
Yeah.

1811
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:40,839
» So,

1812
01:08:40,839 --> 01:08:41,240
>> Mr. Mayor,

1813
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,480
>> I just wanted to say for the record we

1814
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:44,720
don't typically require building permits

1815
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,799
for flat work on property. So, if this

1816
01:08:47,799 --> 01:08:50,040
had been compliant with the rest of the

1817
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,839
curb cut requirements and other things,

1818
01:08:52,839 --> 01:08:54,680
there would have been no problem. Um you

1819
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,720
can pave your entire

1820
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,880
your lot if you want to

1821
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,279
and no permit is required. The The

1822
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:04,080
problem is the stuff between the top

1823
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,799
back of curb and the road and how he's

1824
01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:08,520
cut into the road and that's where we

1825
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,080
get into a problem. The flat work that

1826
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,359
and Lyle, if you approach Lyle and said,

1827
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:14,319
"Do I need a permit for a driveway?" The

1828
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:16,160
answer is no. That's flat work. We don't

1829
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,120
require a permit for that. But where we

1830
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,680
do is the curb cut and the work in our

1831
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,440
right-of-way. So, I just wanted to

1832
01:09:22,440 --> 01:09:23,040
clarify that.

1833
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,400
>> Yeah, and that's where the confusion

1834
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,080
came in, it sounds like.

1835
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,120
>> I asked Lyle for I said, "Do I need a

1836
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,120
pool pipe for the water to go out?" Of

1837
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,160
course I said, "Just put a 1-in

1838
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,120
big pipe to work."

1839
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,120
It's not like

1840
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,279
you know, I didn't put anything. Yeah. I

1841
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:39,520
asked him if I could put a pipe in and

1842
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,640
said, "Yes, I put a pipe."

1843
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,520
So, I put a big pipe in and I said, "My

1844
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,520
My pipe is bigger than the old pipes I

1845
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,030
have."

1846
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,480
Kettle, the only thing you know, it's

1847
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:52,359
going to clog because of all the debris

1848
01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:55,320
that comes in and it's not cleaning the gutters.

1849
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:55,840
>> Yeah.

1850
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,880
>> No, I mean

1851
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,640
the reason for the gutter is not to have

1852
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,000
a pipe

1853
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,200
so it doesn't clog at all.

1854
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,360
That's the reason for the gutter.

1855
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:05,880
>> But there's all kinds of problems.

1856
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,160
>> running water system

1857
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,160
>> on McMichael.

1858
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,840
>> But there there are. So, I Yeah, I think

1859
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:11,880
Okay. Thank you.

1860
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,360
>> So, we will take a look at that

1861
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,720
situation on on your street and see the

1862
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,400
best way to address it and then we'll

1863
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,880
move forward.

1864
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,030
Thank you.

1865
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,440
Okay, item number seven

1866
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:27,840
is a consideration of resolution 2026-39

1867
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,720
approving a proposed amendment to the

1868
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,680
Kenneth Fosson subdivision and approving

1869
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,600
the commercial final plat application

1870
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,360
for Holiday Oil located at approximately

1871
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,520
794 East Main Street in the CG zoning

1872
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,640
district.

1873
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,880
>> Hey, how are you guys?

1874
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,759
>> Great.

1875
01:10:45,759 --> 01:10:46,520
>> [laughter]

1876
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,400
>> Um this one is exciting. So, we're we're

1877
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,800
doing two things here. We're amending

1878
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,760
the Kenneth Fosson subdivision and we're

1879
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,080
approving

1880
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,800
the commercial plat for Holiday Oil. Um

1881
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,320
if you'll scroll um, we we can kind of

1882
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,440
go here. So, this is in the CG

1883
01:11:02,440 --> 01:11:04,720
uh zoning uh for Holiday Oil. It's right

1884
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,920
there on the corner adjacent to Maverick

1885
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,440
on 794 East Main Street. Um, if you want

1886
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:12,320
to scroll down. So, we we're taking this

1887
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,720
from, if I recall, four three or four

1888
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,720
parcels and we are turning it into um

1889
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,560
two parcels.

1890
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,440
So, three parcels here and then if you

1891
01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:25,320
scroll down one more.

1892
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,040
Maybe go up one.

1893
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,440
I- into two parcels. So, the they will

1894
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:32,919
stay there. Have access.

1895
01:11:32,919 --> 01:11:34,920
>> [laughter]

1896
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,800
>> They'll have There'll be a easement

1897
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,280
access here

1898
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,440
um and then access here as well. And so,

1899
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:43,720
you'll see these uh easements in favor

1900
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,360
of lot one and two and then easement in

1901
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,880
favor of lot one and two as well.

1902
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,950
>> Yep.

1903
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,640
» Um, and then if you want to scroll down

1904
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,960
one more, please. So, you can see oh, go

1905
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,360
up one.

1906
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,800
You can see they've done the truck route

1907
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,520
to show um how traffic would flow. You

1908
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:10,840
have Holiday Oil. You have the underground fuel tanks. You

1909
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,200
have Holiday the the um fuel pumps. You

1910
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,600
have the

1911
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,040
RV dump.

1912
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,280
The store uh with a drive-thru and then

1913
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,400
you have the car wash here. And then

1914
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,520
here's the two accesses.

1915
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:24,480
And then if you want to scroll down

1916
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:26,640
again.

1917
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:27,960
And so, this is just kind of a cleaner

1918
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,920
overall um landscape picture. So, we got

1919
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,080
trees. Um, it is xeriscaped and then we

1920
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,560
have asked um the applicant to dedicate

1921
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,120
their half width of Highway 112 and 138.

1922
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,240
Um, UDOT has asked for 117

1923
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:46,840
ft right-of-way. So, they've dedicated

1924
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,520
their half which was significant.

1925
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,200
Um, and caused them to have to redo a

1926
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,360
big portion of their plans, and but

1927
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,760
that's why you'll see these parts strips

1928
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,000
are so wide as well that when that road

1929
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,320
widens

1930
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:04,610
>> It will be ready to widen.

1931
01:13:04,620 --> 01:13:06,400
» [laughter]

1932
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,920
>> This one a big stick. Someone give me a

1933
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:08,440
big stick.

1934
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:09,760
>> You do need a big stick.

1935
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,200
>> I'm going to get you a laser pointer.

1936
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,800
>> At least.

1937
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,520
This one might work.

1938
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,760
Yeah, it don't work.

1939
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,650
But yeah, any questions?

1940
01:13:21,650 --> 01:13:27,710
>> [clears throat]

1941
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,320
» The dry or the

1942
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,910
um

1943
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,920
drive-thru that you mentioned, is that

1944
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,600
just something that you can purchase

1945
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,400
things from the gas station there or is

1946
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,440
it a separate business that will have

1947
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:42,640
like a

1948
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,080
another restaurant that you would pull

1949
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:44,760
through there?

1950
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,400
>> No, so it's you know, if you want a

1951
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,520
drink or a the snack or or not, so.

1952
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,720
>> And then we do have Brent here as well.

1953
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,240
>> Okay.

1954
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,000
come on up, Brent.

1955
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:54,560
>> You're going to come

1956
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:55,200
>> up.

1957
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,320
I was looking for him and then I text

1958
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:57,400
him, I'm like, are you here? And he's

1959
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,986
like, I'm right here.

1960
01:13:58,986 --> 01:14:00,960
>> [laughter]

1961
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,600
>> Um my name's Brent Neil with Holiday

1962
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,800
Oil. Yeah, thank you. Um so touching on

1963
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,160
the drive-thru, so if you go to our Lake

1964
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,000
Point location, that's the same kind of

1965
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,720
concept we're going to be doing here. So

1966
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,600
it's more of a sweet shop, so you can't

1967
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,200
get you can't buy like gas through it,

1968
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,520
tobacco, beer, anything like that. It's

1969
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,160
specialty drinks, the dirty sodas,

1970
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,400
um cookies, stuff like that. So it's

1971
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:20,920
more of a sweet shop.

1972
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,960
>> I'm hungry right now, so let's not talk

1973
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:23,560
about that.

1974
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,280
>> I was wondering [laughter] why he

1975
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:25,680
pointed at me when we were talking about

1976
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,106
cookies.

1977
01:14:29,116 --> 01:14:30,640
» [laughter]

1978
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,160
>> Well, you provide a good product. Uh

1979
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,680
excited to see it it take place on this

1980
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,480
corner. I I And Shelley, I appreciate

1981
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:38,040
you

1982
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,600
hitting on

1983
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:40,760
um

1984
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,720
how we envision this area. I know last

1985
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,360
night P&Z this area further to the north of this

1986
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,320
was discussed and the extension of

1987
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,640
or possible extension of 112 and and

1988
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,880
that going further to the north. Um

1989
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,560
I guess that the the question I had is I

1990
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,120
mean all of this obviously has gone

1991
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,680
through UDOT as far as the entrance

1992
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,840
locations. So, we will have an entrance

1993
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,440
off of

1994
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,920
Main Street and an entrance off of 112,

1995
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:10,640
correct?

1996
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,400
>> are right in right out only.

1997
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,480
>> Okay.

1998
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:17,600
>> Uh 112 should be a full motion.

1999
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,480
>> Yeah,

2000
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,400
sorry. It's It's a left right right in

2001
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,240
right out.

2002
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:21,560
>> Okay.

2003
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:22,400
>> Uh

2004
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,400
and we did ask them to put a 6-ft fence

2005
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,640
along the

2006
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,000
west side.

2007
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,520
>> At the west side.

2008
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,320
Against the

2009
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,320
next piece. Yeah.

2010
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,240
Okay.

2011
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,520
>> I see the turn lane on 112 going in. Are

2012
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,320
we going to do anything with Main Street

2013
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,760
to get the right in? Is that going to be

2014
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,480
>> Yeah, they'll have to I don't know. It's

2015
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:45,360
kind of like

2016
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,360
>> At the entrance up to the Is that the

2017
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,027
west?

2018
01:15:49,027 --> 01:15:50,240
>> [laughter]

2019
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,600
>> Um but it's it's hatched here. You can

2020
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:53,760
see these hatches. So, they'll have to

2021
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,240
do a merge lane in

2022
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,080
and get that in there. So, with UDOT on

2023
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,760
both 138 and 112.

2024
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,440
>> Similar to what's been done on Matthews

2025
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:02,840
Lane, where

2026
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:03,320
>> Correct.

2027
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,440
>> a lane has been created for a a right

2028
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:10,270
turn in. Okay.

2029
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,560
» And this will eventually allow us to

2030
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:26,630
continue the the two lanes.

2031
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,040
» I was maybe just going to ask the

2032
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,000
question regarding P&Z, like is there

2033
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,440
any feedback

2034
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:35,880
that came through that we need to

2035
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,160
>> Um I I mean they're concerned, you know,

2036
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,080
with with the turning and and then the

2037
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,400
wall, but

2038
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,480
they were pretty excited

2039
01:16:43,480 --> 01:16:46,950
>> Straightforward. Okay.

2040
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,598
» I want to say Derek was there for that.

2041
01:16:50,598 --> 01:16:51,560
>> [laughter]

2042
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,880
>> Back in the day. I can't remember it.

2043
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,480
>> You were there for all of it.

2044
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:57,920
>> I was there from the beginning when

2045
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,720
we changed the

2046
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,200
>> What we did was zoning, I think, or

2047
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,160
something. Or but

2048
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,080
>> Um

2049
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,080
>> Yeah, I remember passing with zoning.

2050
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,080
>> Yeah, I don't know if I have either.

2051
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,560
Questions?

2052
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:17,480
>> Not to get into the weeds, but like the trees in the landscaping along 112

2053
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:19,760
and and

2054
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,120
I mean, this will be a new addition to

2055
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,840
our main and as we have new additions to

2056
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,440
the main, obviously trying to coordinate

2057
01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:30,520
you have different components.

2058
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,880
Um I don't know. Do we go Do we get into

2059
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,280
what types of trees, how those Okay. So,

2060
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,840
we are looking

2061
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:38,920
into the future there.

2062
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,920
>> What about lighting?

2063
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,120
>> So, we do have area lights. Um there is

2064
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,360
a photometric plan

2065
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,480
that shows Oh, not in this one? Okay.

2066
01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:47,840
>> Okay.

2067
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:48,880
>> That's in the separate plan that they

2068
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,280
have to submit

2069
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,400
their We've met with uh

2070
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,120
with them to talk about like signage and

2071
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:54,880
things like that.

2072
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,160
>> I think she was also needing street

2073
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,240
lights.

2074
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,000
>> Yeah.

2075
01:17:59,000 --> 01:17:59,960
No.

2076
01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:01,520
>> That would be U dot's decision.

2077
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,230
>> Okay.

2078
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:05,240
» Yeah, so we'll we'll continue to

2079
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,600
coordinate with U dot as far as if they

2080
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,760
do require any kind of signal or street

2081
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,440
lights. We do have area lights around

2082
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:12,560
the property and that's what we the

2083
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,040
photometric plan will show that we keep

2084
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,600
the candle with on our property and it's

2085
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,880
not just glaring all over the field and

2086
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,920
everything to the east of us as well. So

2087
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:29,830
>> Okay.

2088
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,440
What is your anticipated time frame?

2089
01:18:32,440 --> 01:18:35,200
>> So, we're hoping to open December.

2090
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:36,520
Um depending We still have to go and

2091
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,000
respond to the city with some staff

2092
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,640
approval and also with UDOT. So, we're

2093
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,240
hoping to push dirt and start moving

2094
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,240
dirt in mid-July.

2095
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,440
So, about a month out

2096
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:49,390
is what we're pushing for.

2097
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,680
» Gas for Christmas.

2098
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:51,774
>> Yeah.

2099
01:18:51,774 --> 01:18:53,000
>> [laughter]

2100
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,080
>> Is that also your property to the south

2101
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,040
where it's kind of cut out, or is that a

2102
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,120
separate property?

2103
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:00,520
>> No, we we own that as well. So, that's

2104
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,400
not part of this project. Um, we are

2105
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,040
currently under contract with a

2106
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,080
potential user there, but it's we're

2107
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,240
actively trying to sell it. That last

2108
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:15,430
that back acre piece.

2109
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:17,360
» Is that piece on

2110
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,800
>> 112?

2111
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:19,200
>> Mhm.

2112
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,800
>> Okay.

2113
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,280
That's further south.

2114
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,280
>> Okay.

2115
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:25,240
>> And that's where the plat shows the

2116
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,640
cross access as well. So, we can UDOT

2117
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,720
made us put our access 500 ft down. So,

2118
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,480
that's why it's further down on Highway

2119
01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:33,040
112 to allow us to get back on our

2120
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,760
property.

2121
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,320
For the gas station property.

2122
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:50,350
>> Okay.

2123
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:51,520
» I don't have anything else.

2124
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,240
>> I don't have anything.

2125
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:54,680
>> All right, just need a motion then.

2126
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,360
>> I'll make a motion then.

2127
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,600
>> Thank you. Appreciate it.

2128
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,120
>> I'll make a motion we approve resolution

2129
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,960
2026-39

2130
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,400
approving the proposed amendment to the

2131
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,360
Kenneth Folsom subdivision

2132
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,840
and approving the commercial final plat

2133
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,760
application for Holiday Oil located at

2134
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,800
approximately 794 East Main Street in

2135
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,520
the CG zoning district.

2136
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,520
>> All right, we have a a motion by Council

2137
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,720
Member Dalton. Is there a second?

2138
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:17,520
>> I'll second it.

2139
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,600
>> Second by Council Member Williams and a

2140
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,200
third by Council Member Skinner. All in

2141
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:22,920
favor?

2142
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,120
>> Aye.

2143
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,840
>> All right, thank you and welcome to

2144
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,750
Grantsville. We're excited to have you.

2145
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,200
» I'm coming for my cookies.

2146
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:31,990
>> That's right.

2147
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:32,560
>> [laughter]

2148
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:33,955
>> They're desperate.

2149
01:20:33,955 --> 01:20:34,760
>> [sighs and gasps]

2150
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:39,270
>> All right, item number eight.

2151
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,320
Is a consideration of resolution 2026-44

2152
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:44,640
approving the master development

2153
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,000
agreement for the Willow Field

2154
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,520
subdivision located approximately at Old

2155
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,840
Lincoln Highway and Champion Drive.

2156
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,000
>> This one was

2157
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:54,800
later.

2158
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:55,800
No, actually you're we're going to

2159
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:56,200
switch them.

2160
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,720
>> And we are keeping Shelby busy tonight.

2161
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,320
>> Yes. [laughter]

2162
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,000
Um so this is um an amendment and a

2163
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,680
reinstatement of the development

2164
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,720
agreement. This project is in the

2165
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,760
uh rural residential one.

2166
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,960
It has a PUD overlay on it. Um so the

2167
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,400
applicant stayed with the one-acre lots

2168
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,400
with two of the lots facing Old Lincoln

2169
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,840
Highway. Um it's a half-acre lot just

2170
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,360
cuz um the two lots are half-acre just

2171
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:22,840
cuz [clears throat] it would have been

2172
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:23,880
kind of an

2173
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,680
odd-shaped one-acre lot.

2174
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,200
Um it consisted of approximately 29

2175
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,320
acres. It was approved in 2022 um

2176
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:36,160
through resolution 2022-40 and 2022-41

2177
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,080
and 2022-81

2178
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,680
um with the prior development agreement.

2179
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,640
We are um the applicant is wanting to

2180
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,120
build one additional lot for I believe

2181
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:49,520
his nephew.

2182
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,520
Um and that's what we're calling phase

2183
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,440
two. Um and then the remainder will stay

2184
01:21:54,440 --> 01:21:57,440
open. We have um and I did correct that

2185
01:21:57,440 --> 01:21:59,840
Tyson. We did um update it in the

2186
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:01,160
development agreement. I believe it's

2187
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,000
2035 that he has um until he can build

2188
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,680
out. Um anything past 2035 reverts to

2189
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,560
the um RR1 zoning which they were

2190
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:12,680
following.

2191
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,600
Only deviations that they had asked for

2192
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,680
and were vested with in the prior PUD um

2193
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,520
was just the road cross-section.

2194
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,960
Um on that. So um

2195
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,520
we are asking for fee in lieu the

2196
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,120
um making sure that we have the

2197
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,440
easements for the sewer line

2198
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:32,280
construction um as well as the

2199
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,320
dedication of the road in front of this

2200
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:39,630
one additional lot.

2201
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,840
Tony, if you want to

2202
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,910
Oh, you'll probably scroll for a while.

2203
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,480
Yeah, probably towards the end of the

2204
01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:49,000
NDA. There's a

2205
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,280
that layout 23.

2206
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,470
Go down two more.

2207
01:22:55,480 --> 01:22:57,680
So, that's what it um currently looks

2208
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,440
like.

2209
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,800
They actually stopped

2210
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,680
building approximately here and then

2211
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,880
there's that one additional

2212
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,390
lot.

2213
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:10,920
» So, they were already approved for this?

2214
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:31,430
>> Yes.

2215
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:33,640
» You hit on the questions I had regarding

2216
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,600
sewer easement access.

2217
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,200
>> I knew I was psychic.

2218
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,870
>> So,

2219
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,040
» Oh, thank you, Jake.

2220
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,920
>> Yeah, thanks for digging into it, but 30 35

2221
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,040
that you were going to give them to

2222
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:49,360
get everything [laughter] done, right?

2223
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:50,440
Good thing, Tyson.

2224
01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:52,400
>> 30 35

2225
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,520
Hey, yeah.

2226
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:54,387
>> Forever.

2227
01:23:54,387 --> 01:23:56,280
>> [laughter]

2228
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,160
>> Infinity years.

2229
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,282
>> Sometimes how my projects seem like

2230
01:24:00,282 --> 01:24:09,550
>> [laughter]

2231
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,800
» I think it looks good. I mean, it's

2232
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:12,760
We're saying they can do what we've

2233
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:13,800
already said they could do, right?

2234
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:14,600
>> That's what it sounds like.

2235
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,120
>> Pretty much.

2236
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:17,240
According to what they had for the

2237
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,040
beauty.

2238
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,910
>> Yeah.

2239
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,960
» Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve

2240
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,200
resolution 2026-44

2241
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,320
approving the master development

2242
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:27,880
agreement for the Willow Field

2243
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,800
subdivision located at approximately Old

2244
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,120
Lincoln Highway and Champion Drive.

2245
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,440
>> We have a motion by council member

2246
01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:35,200
Dalton. Is there a second?

2247
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:35,960
>> I second.

2248
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:37,840
>> Second by council member Thomas. All in

2249
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:38,720
favor?

2250
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,560
>> I.

2251
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,950
>> Great.

2252
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,120
Okay, item number nine is a public

2253
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,720
hearing item. It is the consideration of

2254
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,640
resolution 2026-45

2255
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,080
approving the fiscal year 2026 year-end

2256
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,840
budget amendments and adopting the

2257
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,600
fiscal year 2026 year-end budget.

2258
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,560
This will be presented by Aspen Clegg,

2259
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,720
our finance director, and after her

2260
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,880
presentation, if there's any members

2261
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,560
from the community who have additional

2262
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,360
concerns or comments that they would

2263
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,640
like to bring to the council,

2264
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:14,560
um

2265
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,720
we will invite you to to to speak on

2266
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,320
that um

2267
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,400
at that time. Right now, we'll let Aspen

2268
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,800
speak and present on this item.

2269
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,680
>> Okay, council, this is the year-end

2270
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,520
budget amendments for fiscal year 2026.

2271
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,960
And so, fiscal year 2026 ends June 30th

2272
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,120
of this

2273
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,640
upcoming month, and then fiscal year 27

2274
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,680
begins on July 1st. So,

2275
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,320
after this meeting, we can no longer

2276
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:42,400
make

2277
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,720
budget changes to fiscal year 2026

2278
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,360
because you guys will no longer be

2279
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:47,680
operating in it, and you guys can't vote

2280
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,400
on it. And so, this is just the last

2281
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,680
changes to the fiscal year 2026.

2282
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:54,920
Um

2283
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,680
you'll note that a lot of like and some

2284
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,360
of them are substantial. So, if you have

2285
01:25:58,360 --> 01:25:59,840
like specific questions about some of

2286
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,120
them, we can talk about them, but

2287
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:03,880
um

2288
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,720
it's I do feel like it's a little

2289
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,280
misleading because we are adjusting

2290
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,040
expenses, but we don't adjust like I

2291
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,960
don't come before you and say, "Hey, can

2292
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,240
you approve us to receive more grant

2293
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,160
money?" Or like the revenues that are

2294
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,440
reflected aren't necessarily in here

2295
01:26:20,440 --> 01:26:23,560
because the we

2296
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:24,800
are worried about overspending in our

2297
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,360
expenditure accounts, but we don't get

2298
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,880
approval to like bring in more revenues.

2299
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,600
And so some of these line items are

2300
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,040
specifically in relation to receiving

2301
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,240
more grant funding, but we need to

2302
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,040
increase the budget in their grant

2303
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,360
expense line, so that way they are

2304
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:41,840
actually approved to have spent that

2305
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,640
grant money. So like that 106,000 for

2306
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,840
instance in community development

2307
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,480
that you see there at 175264,

2308
01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:51,600
that is in relation with the grant. And

2309
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,760
so it's kind of misleading that it seems

2310
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,880
like a huge additional expense, but we

2311
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,400
do have the revenue that offsets it. You

2312
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,680
just don't see it in these amendments.

2313
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:00,800
So

2314
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,840
um

2315
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,360
if you have any specific questions, I'm

2316
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,600
happy to address them. Otherwise, that's

2317
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:11,070
pretty much where we are as okay.

2318
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:12,800
Anybody have any questions or should we

2319
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,240
move to the public hearing at this

2320
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:15,560
point?

2321
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,880
Let's do the public hearing then. Okay.

2322
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,760
Thanks, Aspen.

2323
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,200
If there's any members of the public who

2324
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,840
would like to

2325
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,960
um comment on this item, number nine,

2326
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,840
this is your time to do so. If you're

2327
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,120
online,

2328
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,800
you could please raise your hand. Um

2329
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,920
we will let you speak there as well. Is

2330
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:36,520
there anybody here in the audience that

2331
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:41,670
would like to speak on this item?

2332
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:46,750
Anyone online?

2333
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,240
Okay.

2334
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:49,440
All right, we will close the public

2335
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,480
hearing for item number nine.

2336
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:52,800
And

2337
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,680
we will now move to a discussion with

2338
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,720
the council regarding regarding item

2339
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:21,870
number nine and look for a motion.

2340
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,120
» I guess this is just making it more in

2341
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,280
line with what we're actually spending

2342
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:25,320
through the end of the year. Is that

2343
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,640
what we're like

2344
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,560
>> Yeah, so um like by state statute

2345
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,560
departments can't go over budget like

2346
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,320
overspending from what was approved and

2347
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,040
so this would just bring into

2348
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,600
it would make sense so that everything

2349
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,480
that was spent is within that

2350
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:42,920
department's approved budget. Um

2351
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,280
>> And it's not because they overspent,

2352
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,440
it's because they received more revenue

2353
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:47,600
>> Sometimes.

2354
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:48,040
>> Okay.

2355
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,640
>> I mean legal uh we did have a large

2356
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,040
increase in legal expenses, but we had a

2357
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,200
lot of

2358
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,880
legal expenses this year that weren't I

2359
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,520
mean there was a legal budget presented

2360
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,240
and was approved by council back when

2361
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,760
fiscal year 26 budget was approved, but

2362
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:05,760
um

2363
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,320
just we had a lot more legal fees than

2364
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,920
were anticipated this last year. So like

2365
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,960
that line is I mean we don't have a

2366
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,560
grant for legal fees. We just have to

2367
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:16,640
pay them.

2368
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,840
So like that one

2369
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,560
is just true expense just because we

2370
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:21,480
have

2371
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:23,080
had a lot of legal fees. Um

2372
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:24,560
>> It's a large transfer and am I right

2373
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:25,080
about that?

2374
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:25,600
>> Yeah.

2375
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,800
>> Transfer from different different

2376
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,200
expense accounts into legal.

2377
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,880
Traditionally those

2378
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,160
legal expenses had not been put into the

2379
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,000
legal fund. So

2380
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,480
uh

2381
01:29:37,480 --> 01:29:40,200
we're capturing legal expenses that were

2382
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,720
attributed to different departments, now

2383
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,240
placing them all into the legal budget.

2384
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:46,640
And so there's a large transfer that

2385
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,840
occurred. Um this is the first time that

2386
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:50,640
transfer has ever happened.

2387
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,360
>> So they were split apart and we pulled

2388
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:52,920
them together.

2389
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,440
>> This way it's more transparent on what

2390
01:29:54,440 --> 01:29:56,400
we do for our legal fees.

2391
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,790
>> Yeah.

2392
01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,800
Um

2393
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:01,320
but yeah you know our like elections we

2394
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,080
spent $75

2395
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:04,720
more dollars than was originally

2396
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,520
budgeted for that. So we have to

2397
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,400
increase that collections budget for

2398
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,560
$75. So, that way that cuz that budget

2399
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:11,920
is just so small. It's just the one

2400
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,440
line. There's not another line item to

2401
01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:15,000
cover that expense. And so, we just have

2402
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,320
to

2403
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:18,600
show it. So.

2404
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,280
>> But, there's other lines, but we're not

2405
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,360
showing that they're going to be lower

2406
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:23,960
in the budget and things like that. So,

2407
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,880
we'll have a final

2408
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,320
trueing up of the budget later

2409
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:29,800
but in August, I'd say.

2410
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,560
>> No. Well, I mean, we can do line item

2411
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,320
adjustments at any time. So, like if

2412
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:34,560
there's a

2413
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,840
if there's one line item that had

2414
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,520
excess budget in it, we could transfer

2415
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,760
it to that line item to help cover that.

2416
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,680
And that I did address already. They've

2417
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,040
been sent to Marie to do internal

2418
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,200
entries. So, that's kind of separate,

2419
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,560
but um

2420
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,680
yeah, then as a second part of this

2421
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,840
item is just the approval of the

2422
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,240
year-end budget, which has like those

2423
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,760
adjustments in it in the actual fiscal

2424
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,880
year 2026 budget, which is like all of

2425
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:25,510
this. But,

2426
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,080
» Anybody like to make a motion on this

2427
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:42,350
item?

2428
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,160
» I guess are we expanding the budget or

2429
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:45,720
like is this increasing the budget?

2430
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,480
>> Yeah. So, all of those amendments would

2431
01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:49,320
be increasing the fiscal year 2026

2432
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,480
budget. Unfortunately, at this point,

2433
01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:52,880
all of those expenses have already been

2434
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,880
incurred. So,

2435
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,600
I mean, we can discuss them and look

2436
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,520
into them as much as you'd like, but

2437
01:31:58,520 --> 01:31:59,760
ultimately, we're going to have to have

2438
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:00,880
an approval of it because they've

2439
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,040
already been expensed. So.

2440
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:03,680
>> I'm paid.

2441
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,200
>> Um

2442
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,298
there's not a lot

2443
01:32:06,298 --> 01:32:06,600
>> [laughter]

2444
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:10,080
>> like a lot to do there unfortunately. Um

2445
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:11,200
in

2446
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,800
I came in at the

2447
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,480
partway through this fiscal year. So,

2448
01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:17,840
going forward in fiscal year 27, I would

2449
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,920
like to come more often with budget

2450
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,520
amendments as they come as they arise

2451
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:23,840
with different things that want to be

2452
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,040
expensed. Um

2453
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:27,200
but

2454
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,280
yeah, unfortunately I just wasn't here.

2455
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,320
So, a lot of this just got we've we're

2456
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,280
just running on what was done before.

2457
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:35,680
So. But

2458
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,280
>> But moving forward for 2027, have we

2459
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:38,680
looked at this and said, "Okay, then,

2460
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,040
you know, for going forward making sure

2461
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:41,120
>> Yeah. We have what we need in these

2462
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,520
departments." Yeah, and we're actually

2463
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,080
in the process of changing our accounts

2464
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,280
payable right now. Um we're piloting it

2465
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,040
currently with the police department and

2466
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,240
hopefully it'll be ready to go at the

2467
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,320
beginning of fiscal year 27, but it will

2468
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,200
require departments to get approval

2469
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,080
prior to purchases being made rather

2470
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,120
than

2471
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,880
they kind of do a process right now, but

2472
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,440
it's once they have an invoice, which is

2473
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:04,640
again

2474
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,680
it's too late. Like they've already

2475
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,480
ordered it and received the product by

2476
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:09,640
the time that they've received an

2477
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,120
invoice. And so,

2478
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,760
um they'll be

2479
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,760
a learning curve and some growing pains

2480
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,280
for sure, but I think ultimately in the

2481
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,520
long run it'll end up proving to be

2482
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,200
beneficial for Grantsville City to have

2483
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,040
it required to get approval prior to

2484
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:24,840
purchases being made. And then that will

2485
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:26,840
keep them within their budgetary

2486
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,174
restrictions because they won't be able

2487
01:33:28,174 --> 01:33:30,640
[clears throat] to request a a PO that

2488
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,320
would exceed the budget within that

2489
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:36,470
line. So.

2490
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:37,240
Yeah.

2491
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:38,520
>> I'll take that. It will definitely help.

2492
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:39,560
I mean

2493
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,600
we increased our budget 2.8 million from

2494
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,040
the original

2495
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:47,600
approved budget last year to today. So.

2496
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,720
I don't like the

2497
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,880
buy and ask for for permission

2498
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,520
after the fact.

2499
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:55,000
>> Yeah, I mean

2500
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,640
>> I think where we get an extra 2.8. I

2501
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,320
know things come up.

2502
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,960
Uh you know, that's unexpected, but

2503
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,200
you know,

2504
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:03,880
it's

2505
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,640
>> But some of those funds of the 2.8 were

2506
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,080
because grants were received. So yeah,

2507
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,720
it was spent, but yet it wasn't because

2508
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,520
we went over necessarily. It was just

2509
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:15,960
how it has to look on paper.

2510
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,840
>> Yeah, and so like I mean, we're

2511
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:20,680
Yeah, there are grants to offset some of

2512
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,560
these expenses for sure, but that's just

2513
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,360
not shown because we don't increase the

2514
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:25,800
revenue line

2515
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,120
it with a budget amendment. There

2516
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:29,480
the state is worried about budget

2517
01:34:29,480 --> 01:34:31,800
amendments for expenditures, not so much

2518
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:33,080
getting approval to receive more

2519
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:34,720
revenue. Um

2520
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,720
so that's why it comes before you like

2521
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,200
this. But there are like specifically um

2522
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,600
>> The revenue

2523
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,320
>> Yeah.

2524
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,640
>> stops would be in that scenario.

2525
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:47,920
>> Yeah.

2526
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,920
so like we did receive

2527
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,880
>> dollars for the grants included in that

2528
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:52,440
number.

2529
01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:52,920
>> Mhm.

2530
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:53,800
>> But you won't see that.

2531
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:55,080
>> But you That's how you'll see the

2532
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:56,720
expenditure of that and then it just

2533
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,360
shows that we have inflated our budget

2534
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,280
and then like this is the true amount,

2535
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,720
but so that she said is not a fair

2536
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:03,320
representation.

2537
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:04,920
>> Yeah, ultimately you'll see like the

2538
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,840
revenues versus expenditures after they

2539
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:09,080
do like our fiscal year 26 audit, but

2540
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:10,560
again, that's not

2541
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,480
com- done until like December of this

2542
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:14,800
year. And so

2543
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,280
But this is the last time we have the

2544
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,400
opportunity to make the amendments for

2545
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:28,350
the expenditures.

2546
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,520
» Mayor, I make a motion that we approve

2547
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,040
resolution 2026-46 approving and

2548
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,280
adopting the fiscal year

2549
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,520
Sorry, uh 2026 year end budget

2550
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,080
amendments and adopting the fiscal year

2551
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,120
2026 year end budget.

2552
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,840
>> Would Would you restate the resolution

2553
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:43,240
number?

2554
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:44,600
>> Yeah, sorry. That was the last it was on

2555
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,400
the wrong one. 2026-45.

2556
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:47,320
>> Thank you.

2557
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:48,960
We have a motion by Council member

2558
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,160
Skinner. Is there a second?

2559
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:53,160
>> I second.

2560
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,680
>> A second by council member Thomas. All

2561
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:56,760
in favor?

2562
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,840
>> I.

2563
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:05,350
>> All right.

2564
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,200
this is me again.

2565
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:07,920
So, our

2566
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:08,760
>> just a second.

2567
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:09,560
>> Sorry.

2568
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,680
>> Um agenda item You're fine. Agenda item

2569
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,320
number 10, also a public hearing item.

2570
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,920
Uh it's a consideration of a resolution

2571
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:17,720
2026-46

2572
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:19,320
approving and adopting the fiscal year

2573
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:23,640
2027 compensation compensation schedule

2574
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,360
for Grantsville City department heads

2575
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,160
and elected officials. It'll be

2576
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,040
presented by Aspen Clegg, the finance

2577
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,080
director. And after her presentation, uh

2578
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:33,640
members of the public are welcome to

2579
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,000
make comments on this agenda item.

2580
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,560
>> Thank you. So, for fiscal year 2027, it

2581
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,680
does include a 3% COLA increase for all

2582
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,200
staff. That does include department

2583
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:45,440
heads

2584
01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:48,000
um as well as elected officials. And so,

2585
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,320
per state statute, we're required to

2586
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,200
disclose what the department heads will

2587
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:52,400
be

2588
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,960
receiving at that point in time. So,

2589
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,320
this is just a disclosure of the salary

2590
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,560
rates for the department heads and

2591
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,040
elected officials for Grantsville City

2592
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,560
that would go into effect in fiscal year

2593
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,080
2027

2594
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:10,630
for that in budget year. So.

2595
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,000
That's what that is. I'll let the public

2596
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,840
hearing happen, and then I'll be back.

2597
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,710
>> Thank you.

2598
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,040
Are there any public comments on this

2599
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:23,830
item?

2600
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:29,430
Anyone online?

2601
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:31,360
>> No?

2602
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,920
All right. We're seeing no comments.

2603
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,960
So, we will continue back to the

2604
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,200
discussion with the council

2605
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:42,750
um for item number 10.

2606
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:43,800
» We've already approved this, right? This

2607
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,040
is just numbers. This is just showing

2608
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:46,400
what the actual numbers are that we're

2609
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:47,160
going to

2610
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:47,560
>> Okay.

2611
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,480
>> And this is cost of living. This is not

2612
01:37:49,480 --> 01:37:50,800
This is what we approved last as a merit

2613
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,680
increase. This is just a cost of living.

2614
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:53,280
>> Correct.

2615
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:53,880
>> Yes.

2616
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,230
>> This is just the 3%

2617
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:58,960
Yeah, this is just a cost of living.

2618
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,510
>> Correct.

2619
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:03,200
» I do [clears throat] understand the

2620
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,242
difference between the two.

2621
01:38:05,242 --> 01:38:06,680
>> [laughter]

2622
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:07,840
>> Yeah, there has been a There's been a

2623
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,400
lot of sem- semantics. It is an

2624
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:12,280
increase. It is an increase. Um but

2625
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:13,800
there's also been inflation from last

2626
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,880
year to this year as well. So,

2627
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:17,720
um

2628
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:21,720
you know, I I I deal with this in my

2629
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:23,640
what I, you know, current company that I

2630
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,160
work with and we we separate the two.

2631
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,160
Um

2632
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:31,400
and yeah, it's an im- it's an impact in

2633
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,360
one form or fashion. So,

2634
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,960
anyway, yeah. I I don't need to say any

2635
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:42,390
more on that.

2636
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,440
» Like I said last meeting, I'm

2637
01:38:44,440 --> 01:38:46,480
fine with the I kind of got some of the

2638
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:48,240
stuff I wanted, but

2639
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:49,640
I just have to say that I don't think

2640
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,240
that the elected officials should

2641
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:53,920
receive anything. I think we just keep

2642
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,720
ours as is.

2643
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,680
But that's my my two cents on it.

2644
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,480
>> And to be sure, not I mean, this is like

2645
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:05,040
the approved rate, but even not all of

2646
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,480
the elected officials receive that. Some

2647
01:39:07,480 --> 01:39:11,280
have opted to like

2648
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:15,160
forgo or forfeit, I guess, yeah, theirs

2649
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:35,950
and so they don't actually receive it.

2650
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:37,800
» So, I did the math. It's just the 3%

2651
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,200
COLA. That's all this is showing.

2652
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:40,960
Correct.

2653
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,560
>> So, the first

2654
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,280
number you'll see is like the current

2655
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:45,880
compensation so these are the rates that

2656
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,560
they're currently paid at and then

2657
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,040
the second column would be what their

2658
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,520
new rate would be with that 3% Cola

2659
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,280
which is again cost of living adjustment

2660
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:57,960
only which is the 3% that's been

2661
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:00,400
approved for

2662
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:10,630
citywide staff to receive so

2663
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,280
» I've I've

2664
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:13,920
spent [clears throat] the last couple

2665
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,400
weeks having conversations with

2666
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,150
um

2667
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,360
most of the individuals on this on this

2668
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,680
list I I know

2669
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:28,070
um

2670
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,480
we

2671
01:40:29,480 --> 01:40:35,520
I I I just want to say I appreciate our our staff and especially those that

2672
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,190
direct um

2673
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,880
direct the the city um

2674
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,480
and

2675
01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:46,760
the the dealings that we deal with a lot

2676
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:48,800
of those individuals you know have a

2677
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,600
holiday supposed to be on a holiday and

2678
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:55,160
on a holiday they are

2679
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,400
at their desk so um

2680
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,400
uh I it's it's

2681
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,320
>> or out in the field

2682
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:07,440
um and so I anyway I did

2683
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:11,400
I think this at a minimum is is

2684
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,840
uh an appreciation factor

2685
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:16,480
we're dealing with you know

2686
01:41:16,480 --> 01:41:18,520
costs of livings and other things that

2687
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:19,840
you know come into play this is

2688
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,280
appreciation I I I feel like this is

2689
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,480
something we needed to do just to even

2690
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:29,320
in that setting to to show that so anyway

2691
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,240
that's all I have to say on it

2692
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:47,070
>> staff appreciate all of that

2693
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,240
» Appreciate all the extra effort, too, in

2694
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:50,960
going through the budgets to try to

2695
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,320
figure out how we can

2696
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,120
>> Where we can make the cuts. Yep.

2697
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:59,550
>> So

2698
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,355
All right. Now, I'm finished, Jeff.

2699
01:42:02,355 --> 01:42:04,510
>> [laughter]

2700
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,000
» So, is the public comment done? We just

2701
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,860
need a motion.

2702
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:17,630
» [clears throat and cough]

2703
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:19,920
» So, Mayor, I make a motion that we

2704
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,680
approve Resolution 26-46

2705
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:25,840
approving and adopting the fiscal year

2706
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,560
2027 compensation schedule for the

2707
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,960
Grantsville City department heads and

2708
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,760
elected officials.

2709
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,280
>> We have a motion by Councilmember

2710
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:36,320
Williams. Is there a second?

2711
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:37,360
>> I'll second the motion.

2712
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,240
>> A second by Councilmember Skinner. All

2713
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:41,440
in favor.

2714
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:42,800
>> Aye.

2715
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:43,600
>> All opposed.

2716
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:48,030
>> Nay.

2717
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,600
» Roll call. Councilmember Williams.

2718
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:51,880
>> In favor.

2719
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:52,920
>> Skinner.

2720
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:53,760
>> In favor.

2721
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:54,600
>> Dalton.

2722
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:55,880
>> Nay.

2723
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:57,160
>> Um Thomas.

2724
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:04,510
>> In favor.

2725
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,200
» Okay. Item number 11, a presentation of

2726
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:12,950
property tax impact schedule.

2727
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,720
» All right. So,

2728
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:16,920
it's our favorite little property tax

2729
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:18,960
impact schedule document you guys have

2730
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:20,040
seen.

2731
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,320
Um

2732
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,720
So, Grantsville City is considering an

2733
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,560
increase to its property tax rate from

2734
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,640
0.001417

2735
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,120
to 0.001488,

2736
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:33,800
which exceeds the estimated certified

2737
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,440
tax rate and is estimated to generate an

2738
01:43:36,440 --> 01:43:39,720
additional $110,598,

2739
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,960
dollars, sorry, and 32 cents in property

2740
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:43,760
tax revenue.

2741
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:46,040
Um, so it just kind of goes through what

2742
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,720
our current property tax rate is, um, at

2743
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,840
the certified tax rate, um, what how

2744
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,120
much property tax revenue that would

2745
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,680
generate, which is 2.2 million.

2746
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,760
The proposed revenue with the tax change

2747
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,440
would be 2.3 million, which is that

2748
01:44:00,440 --> 01:44:04,000
increase of 110,000. So, it's a 5%

2749
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:05,600
property tax

2750
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,640
increase rate, and it equates to

2751
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,800
approximately a dollar 83 per month for

2752
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,280
residential, for the average home.

2753
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:14,880
Um, and that again would be going to

2754
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:18,120
fund a parks and recreation employee to

2755
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:19,840
accommodate for our scenic slopes coming

2756
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:21,160
online.

2757
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:22,160
>> And Desert Edge.

2758
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:23,080
yes.

2759
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,680
>> Yes.

2760
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,440
>> And the Veterans Park.

2761
01:44:27,440 --> 01:44:29,800
>> So, anyway, so we just have to read that

2762
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:31,240
and disclose it and announce it and

2763
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:32,880
present it. So,

2764
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,880
nothing really to do that one.

2765
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:35,960
>> Just a presentation.

2766
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:36,560
>> Yep.

2767
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,510
>> Okay.

2768
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:40,760
All right.

2769
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:41,600
Um,

2770
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,320
item number 12,

2771
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:48,360
um, is also a public hearing

2772
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,720
item. It is the consideration of

2773
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,240
resolution 2026-49

2774
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,400
approving the 2026 update to the

2775
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,760
Grantsville City Transportation Master

2776
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,400
Plan.

2777
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:00,960
>> Oh, wait, we have two different ones.

2778
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,280
Oh.

2779
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:04,000
>> Sorry.

2780
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,480
>> So, mine's I got two papers and I have a

2781
01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:08,640
different item. Sorry.

2782
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,640
Um, 2020 Item number 12, consideration

2783
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,240
of resolution 2026-48

2784
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,040
approving and adopting the fiscal year

2785
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:19,120
2027 interim budget and acknowledging

2786
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,920
the fiscal year 2027 property tax impact

2787
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:23,800
schedule.

2788
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,760
>> So, this is just would be the interim

2789
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,640
budget for fiscal year 2027 for us to

2790
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,040
operate on

2791
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,040
beginning July 1st. Um the truth in

2792
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,080
taxation will go through

2793
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:35,120
um

2794
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:36,840
citizens will receive the notice of it

2795
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:38,760
when they get their tax valuation notice

2796
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,800
in July from Tooele County.

2797
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:43,120
And then we'll do our truth in taxation

2798
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:44,760
hearing in August. And then at that

2799
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:46,560
point, depending on you guys' decision

2800
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,000
to adopt a new property tax rate of the

2801
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:52,360
5% or lower, um at that point we would

2802
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,760
adjust. So, this interim budget does

2803
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,920
have the property tax, the additional

2804
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,720
revenue proposed with the rate, as well

2805
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,200
as the expenses separated out into

2806
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,640
separate line items, so that that way it

2807
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,440
does not perceived

2808
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:08,360
in our operating budget that that

2809
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:11,880
funding is available yet. So, depending

2810
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,600
on what happens in August at that and

2811
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,360
your decision at that point, we would

2812
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,240
either do a line item adjustment to move

2813
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:21,000
that budget into a usable line, or it

2814
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:24,120
would just sit there untouched until

2815
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,040
the year end, being as how we didn't

2816
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,520
receive any additional revenue if you

2817
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,920
guys opted for no increase in August.

2818
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,840
So, this one just has it

2819
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,320
explicitly separated out, so that way it

2820
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,960
is not confused for any staff that they

2821
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:39,520
think that that budget is available for

2822
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:40,560
use.

2823
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:41,760
So.

2824
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:42,840
>> Is that the difference on what we were

2825
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,280
voting cuz we we voted to approve it

2826
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:45,960
last time, the interim budget, right?

2827
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:47,440
>> So, that the tentative.

2828
01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:48,120
>> The tentative.

2829
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:49,080
>> Yeah.

2830
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,160
>> So, does it feel like this is like

2831
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:52,440
Groundhog Day?

2832
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:54,080
>> The tentative budget that we adopted the

2833
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:55,560
tentative budget at the very beginning

2834
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:56,920
of the presentation cuz that would just

2835
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:58,560
be tentative till now that we have to

2836
01:46:58,560 --> 01:46:59,800
adopt the interim budget.

2837
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:00,440
>> Okay.

2838
01:47:00,440 --> 01:47:02,760
>> Yeah, so the interim budget, and this is

2839
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,600
new this year as well from the state of

2840
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,760
Utah from the tax commission. And so, we

2841
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,440
in years past they have adopt if they go

2842
01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:12,960
through a truth in taxation, they would

2843
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,240
adopt a tentative budget, but there's

2844
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,320
been a lot of changes for transparency

2845
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,040
and truth in taxation processes that

2846
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,120
have gone into effect this year. And so,

2847
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,080
we have to be very clear

2848
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,120
and use the new terminology that it's an

2849
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,200
interim budget, not attentive. So, this

2850
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:30,760
is the interim budget that we will be

2851
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:33,160
operating on until we would adopt a

2852
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,400
final budget in August after the truth

2853
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:37,640
and taxation.

2854
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:39,200
>> But nothing in this budget has changed

2855
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:40,240
other than we're calling it the word

2856
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:40,760
interim.

2857
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,800
>> Yes, it's the word interim, and then it

2858
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:44,920
does have the potential additional

2859
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,480
revenue and that corresponding expense

2860
01:47:47,480 --> 01:47:49,280
in separate line items. Yeah.

2861
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,480
>> Separated based on whatever decision is

2862
01:47:51,480 --> 01:47:51,960
made on that.

2863
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:53,720
>> Correct. And so like I went into our

2864
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,440
chart of accounts, created new general

2865
01:47:55,440 --> 01:47:57,760
ledger accounts, and so all of it's like

2866
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,440
official now, and it does have it

2867
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:00,800
separated out in this budget. But that's

2868
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,000
the only change that has occurred since

2869
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,040
the last one you saw.

2870
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:06,560
>> Unless there's some increase you want to

2871
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,560
put on there right now for some other

2872
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:12,510
project that you thought of.

2873
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,200
» Or we can do an amendment

2874
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:15,709
after July.

2875
01:48:15,709 --> 01:48:17,480
>> [laughter]

2876
01:48:17,480 --> 01:48:19,520
>> So.

2877
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:21,320
>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Aspen. We'll go

2878
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:22,840
to our um

2879
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:25,720
the public comment section of item

2880
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,200
number 12. So, if you have any comments

2881
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,240
and you would like to bring those to the

2882
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:31,960
council's attention, please come forward

2883
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:33,960
at this time, or if you're online,

2884
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:42,590
please raise your hand.

2885
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,720
Anything online, Alicia?

2886
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:47,640
Okay. All right, we'll close the public

2887
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,880
comment for item number 12 and continue

2888
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,280
with the discussion with the council

2889
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:53,560
um

2890
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,670
on this resolution.

2891
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:57,720
» I don't have more questions. That was my

2892
01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:58,280
all my questions.

2893
01:48:58,280 --> 01:48:58,920
>> All right.

2894
01:48:58,920 --> 01:48:59,760
>> I don't either.

2895
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,720
>> Okay.

2896
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,280
All right, we just need a motion.

2897
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:05,600
>> Mayor, I make a motion we move to

2898
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,600
approve resolution 2026-48 adopting

2899
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,720
approving and adopting the fiscal year

2900
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,120
2027 interim budget and acknowledging

2901
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,040
the fiscal year 2027 property tax impact

2902
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:17,840
schedule.

2903
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,160
>> All right, we have a motion by council

2904
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,040
member Thomas. Is there a second?

2905
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:21,880
>> I second motion.

2906
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:23,640
>> Second by council member Skinner. All in

2907
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:24,520
favor?

2908
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,680
>> I.

2909
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,160
>> Great.

2910
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,880
Um item number 13, a consideration of

2911
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,280
resolution 2026

2912
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,920
-49 approving the 2026 update to the

2913
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:38,720
Grantsville City Transportation Master

2914
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,230
Plan.

2915
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:42,560
And I'm not even sure who's presenting

2916
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,200
this.

2917
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,100
That would be Bill.

2918
01:49:46,100 --> 01:49:47,040
>> [laughter]

2919
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:48,400
>> We were meant to have someone online. Is

2920
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,160
there someone from

2921
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:52,840
Jones and Demille?

2922
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,840
>> Um what would their name be?

2923
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,040
I can tell you. I have it here.

2924
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:58,560
>> McLean probably. Is

2925
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,120
>> Matthew Lindford?

2926
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,360
>> Yeah. Yeah, Matthew maybe.

2927
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,160
>> Matthew McLean.

2928
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,760
>> Hey, can you hear me?

2929
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:08,560
>> Yes.

2930
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:09,520
>> Okay, that would be Matthew. Hey

2931
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:10,880
Matthew, how's it going?

2932
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:12,200
>> Good. How are you doing?

2933
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,560
>> I'm fabulous. You're on now with the

2934
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,520
council meeting and I'll hear you, so

2935
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:16,840
>> Okay.

2936
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:18,000
>> I just wanted to give a quick little

2937
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,000
introduction. Um the planning commission

2938
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,120
heard this last month and um

2939
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,680
voted to uh recommend approval by the

2940
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,080
city council. So, that's in your staff

2941
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:28,120
report.

2942
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:29,480
Uh one of the nice things about having

2943
01:50:29,480 --> 01:50:32,200
this done now is that this helps to

2944
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:35,160
inform questions about and decisions

2945
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,560
made for and by our general plan update,

2946
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:38,600
which is

2947
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,160
imminent. So, um this would be an

2948
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,280
element of that general plan update and

2949
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,040
the the the coincidence of these two

2950
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:50,680
things is actually very very fortuitous.

2951
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:52,600
So, um

2952
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,720
we're grateful for their efforts and uh

2953
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:57,080
I hope you will enjoy their

2954
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,400
presentation. If you have any questions

2955
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,360
for me, I'm here and then uh otherwise

2956
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,480
we'll turn that over to you, Matthew.

2957
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:04,520
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you.

2958
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:06,440
Um thanks for [clears throat] letting me

2959
01:51:06,440 --> 01:51:08,640
join remotely. I was unable to make it

2960
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:10,880
to Grantsville this evening, so thank

2961
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,840
you for this opportunity.

2962
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:14,160
Um

2963
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:16,320
Am I able Oh, it looks like I am able to

2964
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,600
share my screen. Perfect.

2965
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,720
Um

2966
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:27,350
Okay, can everyone see my screen?

2967
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:47,110
» Yes, hold on. We'll start.

2968
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:49,120
Let's see.

2969
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,160
We can see it. It's just

2970
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,640
kind of a funny view.

2971
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,200
>> Okay. Am I Am I good to

2972
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:56,760
>> Yeah.

2973
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,280
>> start presenting? Okay.

2974
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,400
Um So, we've been working with the

2975
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:05,120
mostly city staff for about a year now

2976
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:07,320
to get this updated.

2977
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:09,800
As was mentioned, this will be a part of

2978
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,560
the general plan.

2979
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:14,280
Um So, this website here will be put on

2980
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,680
the city's website. Um

2981
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,680
and this has all of the data from the

2982
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,640
plan. So, it has a report. It has all of

2983
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:23,640
the maps that we created with the plan

2984
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:25,960
as well as some other information.

2985
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,120
Um I believe [clears throat] McLean has

2986
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,840
already presented to the council. That

2987
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:31,880
was

2988
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:35,320
I believe that was in April or May.

2989
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:36,680
Um

2990
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:38,280
And so, I'll keep this fairly brief

2991
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,880
unless there are questions, but Um if

2992
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:42,920
you go to this website, um you can click

2993
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,640
on this button to get to the master plan

2994
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:46,680
report. This is the actual document

2995
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,360
that's being adopted as part of the

2996
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:50,680
general plan. Um currently on the

2997
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,760
website, um it is in a draft format just

2998
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,240
because it hasn't been adopted. Once it

2999
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:59,600
gets adopted, we will um finalize that.

3000
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,040
It'll have all of the same information,

3001
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:02,960
all the same wording. It'll just

3002
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:04,760
be finalized rather than in a draft

3003
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:06,160
format.

3004
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:07,840
Um

3005
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,160
And then on this website as well, um

3006
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:11,960
there's these different tabs at the top.

3007
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,160
I'll just briefly go through them. Um

3008
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:15,840
this tab just gives some information

3009
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:17,680
about Grantsville and some information

3010
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,400
about why this study was done, why this

3011
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,320
um

3012
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:23,720
amendment and update to the

3013
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,040
transportation master plan was

3014
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:26,560
completed.

3015
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,520
Um this tab has socio-economic

3016
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:31,800
information on Grantsville from the

3017
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:34,720
census. This is information that we used

3018
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,680
um to determine future growth rates um

3019
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:39,680
and future planning.

3020
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,320
Um so you can have that for reference

3021
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,000
there.

3022
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:44,720
Uh and then I'm going to skip the maps

3023
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:46,880
for a second. Um if you go to this

3024
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,440
documents tab, it has links to the city

3025
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:51,840
code, city land use ordinances, the

3026
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,320
general plan for the city,

3027
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,440
um and then also the master plan report.

3028
01:53:57,440 --> 01:53:59,040
And then this master plan appendix

3029
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:01,520
button, that will have uh PDF copies of

3030
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:05,080
all of the maps in this online website.

3031
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:06,800
Uh and then this last tab is just a

3032
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,960
definitions page uh that gives some

3033
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:11,680
definitions for words that are used

3034
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:13,960
throughout the plan.

3035
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,040
Um okay.

3036
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:17,880
Any questions before I hop into the

3037
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,590
maps?

3038
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:23,360
Okay, perfect.

3039
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,120
Um so a lot of these maps are looking at

3040
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,280
the existing road network and then a lot

3041
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:29,600
of the other maps are looking at the

3042
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,600
future build-out road network. So if you

3043
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:34,120
look on the

3044
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,760
um left side of the screen, this is

3045
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,640
UDOT's classification of roadways

3046
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:42,080
um in Grantsville. I'll zoom in.

3047
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:44,480
Um and it's classified by arterial,

3048
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:48,080
collector, and local roads.

3049
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,400
Um arterial being the highest priority,

3050
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,280
so the UDOT roads mostly right now, and

3051
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,920
then collector roads are medium priority

3052
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,920
roads, and then local roads are lower

3053
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,920
priority roads, meaning um they have

3054
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,760
lower volumes, they have lower speeds.

3055
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:08,600
They're more for slower local traffic.

3056
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:10,960
Um, on the right,

3057
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,240
you can see the

3058
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:14,840
future

3059
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,240
functional classification network. So,

3060
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,320
this is all of the

3061
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,600
proposed locations of future collector

3062
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,520
and arterial roads.

3063
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,040
Um, this was a critical aspect of the

3064
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,560
plan in determining where

3065
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:31,400
um, those collector roads are going to

3066
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:35,000
be to ensure that in the future we have

3067
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,760
um, good movement of traffic.

3068
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,920
There's not a lot of congestion.

3069
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:41,880
Um, the road stay safe, and that

3070
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:45,720
development occurs in the plan um,

3071
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:47,160
as the as the city would like

3072
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,240
development to occur.

3073
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:57,910
Um, any questions on this map?

3074
01:55:57,920 --> 01:55:58,800
Okay.

3075
01:55:58,800 --> 01:55:59,880
And the different roads have

3076
01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:01,800
>> I have one quick question. The extension

3077
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,480
of 112 to the Burmester exit.

3078
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:05,080
>> Yes.

3079
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:06,760
>> It's a big swoop in that. Is that

3080
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:10,640
because of um, flood wetlands?

3081
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:11,680
>> Yes. So, we

3082
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:13,000
>> I can see that better now that it's

3083
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:13,960
zoomed in. Thank you.

3084
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,640
>> Yeah, we initially had that connecting

3085
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,000
straight, but felt that it would be

3086
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:18,320
better

3087
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:21,830
to go around that.

3088
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:23,360
Um,

3089
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:23,880
okay, any [clears throat] other

3090
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,630
questions?

3091
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:28,280
Okay.

3092
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:33,320
Um, this next map is the

3093
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:35,120
uh, this is a map of all of the roads

3094
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,240
maintained by Grantsville City. So, it

3095
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:39,160
doesn't have any U dot roads or any

3096
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:40,720
county roads.

3097
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,840
Um, it's just the roads maintained by

3098
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,560
the city. And this map is used by U dot

3099
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:48,160
to determine the class B and C road

3100
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:50,560
funds that the city gets allocated each

3101
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:51,640
year.

3102
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:54,000
Uh, so we updated this map as part of

3103
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:55,400
the plan.

3104
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:59,120
So, now U dot is um funding

3105
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,880
the city based off of an accurate road

3106
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:03,240
mileage.

3107
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:04,880
And we would recommend continuing to

3108
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:13,230
update this um map every every year.

3109
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:16,000
This next map is traffic counts that we

3110
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:17,880
performed. So, you can see the roads

3111
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:19,560
that we performed the traffic counts on.

3112
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:22,080
We use this to determine where those

3113
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,840
critical future corridors are going to

3114
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:24,840
be.

3115
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,560
Um

3116
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,680
you can click on these blue squares and

3117
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:31,520
it'll show you the average daily traffic

3118
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:35,040
on the road. So, here on uh Mormon Trail

3119
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,680
Road or West Street, um you can see the

3120
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:39,560
average daily traffic's just over 2,000

3121
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:41,880
vehicles. You can also see the speeds

3122
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:44,080
that we collected as well.

3123
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,920
Um right here, the average speeds.

3124
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,640
And then heavy truck traffic percentages

3125
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:52,200
as well.

3126
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,560
>> I just want to point out to uh Chief

3127
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:57,800
Zager that we're 1 mile below the or the

3128
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:00,360
speed limit is the average. So,

3129
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,596
we're all following the law here. So,

3130
01:58:02,596 --> 01:58:03,440
>> [clears throat and laughter]

3131
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:06,080
>> And that is one one note I will make on

3132
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,360
the speed limit data or the speed data.

3133
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:13,000
If the count was taken closer to a block

3134
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,000
um or an intersection, the speed data

3135
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,240
might be a little lower than if it were

3136
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,840
taken kind of in the open. That one was

3137
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:21,880
taken pretty in the open though. So,

3138
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,750
that is good.

3139
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:28,710
» That's surprising. [laughter]

3140
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:33,520
» Um okay, this next map is

3141
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:36,160
uh crash history map. So, you can see in

3142
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:39,480
the table the crashes per year

3143
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:41,800
um in Grantsville

3144
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,360
uh by crashes without injuries, crashes

3145
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:46,720
with injuries, and fatalities. And then

3146
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,720
there's a heat map that shows kind of

3147
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:50,960
those hot spots where

3148
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:52,960
uh more crashes have occurred. You can

3149
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:54,600
see it's on the Udot highway, that makes

3150
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:56,040
sense because that's where you have your

3151
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:57,280
higher speeds, that's where you have

3152
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,600
most of your traffic. But, you can also

3153
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:01,040
use it to see, okay, there may be

3154
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:03,360
another intersection where there's some

3155
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:05,040
higher crashes

3156
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:05,720
um

3157
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,080
that that might need to be looked at.

3158
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,440
Um, we didn't do an intense safety

3159
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:13,400
analysis as part of this plan update,

3160
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:14,840
um, but that is something that could be

3161
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:16,840
looked at in the future and this data

3162
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:24,510
would be helpful for that.

3163
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,440
Um, this active transportation plan,

3164
01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:29,680
this just shows existing multi-use bike

3165
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,840
and pedestrian trails and planned future

3166
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:38,230
um, multi-use trails.

3167
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,000
Uh,

3168
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,320
this map shows where the city would like

3169
01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:47,080
truck trucks to be routed. Um,

3170
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:49,000
so, it shows some existing and some

3171
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,280
future roads, like this road down here

3172
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:54,200
does not exist yet, but once it's built,

3173
01:59:54,200 --> 02:00:02,870
that will be built as a truck route.

3174
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:05,800
Uh, as part of the plan, we did a

3175
02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:07,880
an assessment of the existing pavement

3176
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:10,800
condition for every road in the city.

3177
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:12,920
Um, so you can see here there's a grade

3178
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:15,280
on a scale of 0 to 100. It's kind of

3179
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:17,360
like school, if you're

3180
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:19,000
the higher you are, the better your

3181
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:20,760
grade is. Um,

3182
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:22,760
and so the greener the road, the better

3183
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,240
condition it is, the redder it is, the

3184
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,000
worst condition it is.

3185
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:27,720
And so, we have

3186
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:28,360
um,

3187
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:31,560
each road, we completed that assessment.

3188
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:33,160
You can click on the specific road and

3189
02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:36,800
see the specific detailed grade.

3190
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,320
Um, and then we used that information to

3191
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,200
create this next map

3192
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,880
which

3193
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:46,720
um,

3194
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,440
created a phasing plan for

3195
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:50,680
um

3196
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:52,440
providing treatment to each road in the

3197
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:53,560
city.

3198
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:57,440
And you can look at each specific phase

3199
02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:59,960
um and see which projects are included

3200
02:00:59,960 --> 02:01:02,800
in that phase, which type of project, um

3201
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,680
the estimated cost of the project, and

3202
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:11,830
the estimated scope of the project.

3203
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:14,320
Any Any questions on this roadway

3204
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:21,390
treatment plan?

3205
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:22,480
Okay.

3206
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:24,840
It's a really good tool for

3207
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:25,600
um

3208
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:28,160
transparency um to help inform the

3209
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:30,720
public of the to make them know that the

3210
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:33,680
city is aware of certain concerns with

3211
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:35,600
existing pavement condition and that

3212
02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:39,230
there is a plan in place.

3213
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:40,880
Um

3214
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,000
Okay, this last

3215
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,760
Well, so this This is the transportation

3216
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:47,440
improvement plan. So, this just shows

3217
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:50,880
the critical corridors to be built in

3218
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:54,120
the future. So, we did a traffic model

3219
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:56,480
that went out to 2050.

3220
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,400
And we determined which roads are

3221
02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:01,160
critical to be built by 2050, and you

3222
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:02,640
can see we've divided it into three

3223
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:04,120
phases.

3224
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:05,604
Um

3225
02:02:05,604 --> 02:02:05,640
>> [clears throat]

3226
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:07,400
>> And so, by phase three, all of these

3227
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:08,920
roads you see,

3228
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:10,320
we determined these are critical

3229
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:12,680
corridors that need to be built

3230
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:15,200
uh in order to

3231
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:18,800
uh have a free-flowing traffic network

3232
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,160
without a lot of congestion that's safe

3233
02:02:21,160 --> 02:02:22,680
and reliable.

3234
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:24,200
Um

3235
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:26,400
And you can click on each road here in

3236
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:28,400
the map to see

3237
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:29,960
how many lanes we anticipate it will

3238
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:31,520
need to have,

3239
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:32,880
and then

3240
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:35,200
who would be responsible for building

3241
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:41,470
that road when it comes down to it.

3242
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:44,400
Um then these last maps are level of

3243
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:47,000
service maps. So, this just shows with

3244
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:48,840
the traffic modeling how well the roads

3245
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:50,280
are functioning. So, this is the

3246
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:51,960
existing map.

3247
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,000
Um, 2025, you can see there's

3248
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:56,560
just like with the pavement condition,

3249
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:58,880
red is worse, green is better.

3250
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:00,400
Um, you can see the highways are a

3251
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:02,480
little congested on the east side of the

3252
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:04,000
city.

3253
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:06,680
And so, we with those planned corridors,

3254
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:09,400
if you go to 2050,

3255
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:10,720
if you look [clears throat] at this left

3256
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:11,920
side,

3257
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:14,000
you can see,

3258
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:15,600
you know, we've been able to improve a

3259
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:17,920
lot of that just by adding in more

3260
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:21,280
corridors, widening certain roads. Um,

3261
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:22,880
like the highway, we recommend that that

3262
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,560
should be widened.

3263
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:25,880
And then,

3264
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:26,960
you can see [clears throat] on the left,

3265
02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:29,240
this is if it's improved, and on the

3266
02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:31,200
right if it's not improved, what it will

3267
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:34,070
look like.

3268
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:36,000
Um, so this just creates a tool for the

3269
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:38,520
city moving forward to know

3270
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:40,880
where what are the critical corridors.

3271
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:44,000
Um, so for development, uh, you can

3272
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:46,000
ensure that when developers come in and

3273
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,040
develop that those critical corridors

3274
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:51,760
are maintained, so that you have um, a

3275
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:56,390
healthy traffic network in the future.

3276
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:58,600
So, that's the that's the bulk of the

3277
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:00,760
plan. Those are the maps, um, that we

3278
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:03,680
created as a result of all of the data.

3279
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:05,320
If you look in the report, that mostly

3280
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,000
just has all of the raw data from the

3281
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,680
plan. Uh, it's about I don't know, 70

3282
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:13,280
pages, I think. So,

3283
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:16,120
oh, it's only 50 pages, nice. So, but if

3284
02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:17,640
you want to read through the raw data

3285
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:19,440
report, you can look at that as well,

3286
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:20,760
but

3287
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:27,750
um, any questions for me?

3288
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:30,590
» Any questions?

3289
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:32,520
Thank you for your presentation.

3290
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,240
>> Yeah, thanks for the opportunity to work

3291
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:35,480
on this project. It's been a good

3292
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:44,030
project.

3293
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:51,950
» Anybody have any concerns with the transportation master plan?

3294
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:53,560
» Oh, you can spend a lot of time getting

3295
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:54,560
all

3296
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:56,320
getting it out on roads in there. I I I

3297
02:04:56,320 --> 02:05:00,040
thought they did a great job showing

3298
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:02,000
There there's some interesting things as

3299
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,080
you look at this, you know, specifically

3300
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:06,320
I-80.

3301
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:08,560
How it how it maintains yellow and red

3302
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:10,800
even with the build out. So, you know,

3303
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:15,480
as we look within our our district and

3304
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:17,360
really as we look within

3305
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:19,160
you know, inner connectivity to the

3306
02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:20,640
other valley, there's going to need to

3307
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:21,720
be

3308
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:25,000
either a major expansion of I-80 or

3309
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:27,920
high rail or other other factors coming

3310
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:31,000
to this valley to make it

3311
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:32,960
you know, functional for us. But

3312
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:35,320
>> Yeah. All of the above.

3313
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:37,080
>> So.

3314
02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:39,040
Anyway, yeah, I thought they did did a

3315
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:42,750
good job.

3316
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:44,760
And this syncs in with the data from

3317
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:46,760
UDOT cuz we got separate data from them,

3318
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:49,120
too. Were those Did those two studies

3319
02:05:49,120 --> 02:05:53,040
connect? Maybe that's a question.

3320
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:53,440
We lose

3321
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:54,480
>> Um

3322
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:55,120
there was a bit [clears throat] of

3323
02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:58,600
overlap. Uh we had for all of our

3324
02:05:58,600 --> 02:06:00,160
coordination meetings with the city,

3325
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:02,400
there were representatives of UDOT there

3326
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:04,040
to ensure that

3327
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:06,760
um for the UDOT corridors, those were

3328
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:08,480
planned out in the right location and

3329
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:09,920
that we were consistent with their

3330
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:12,400
planning.

3331
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:18,550
>> Perfect.

3332
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:20,760
» Yes, Matthew, two things I've noticed

3333
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:22,920
that we probably need to have you update

3334
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,480
is on this map the level of service, the

3335
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,160
one well going north need to be

3336
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:30,280
readjusted

3337
02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:31,720
to the right location like you had on

3338
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:34,680
the original, the first one.

3339
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:38,680
And then probably in the truck route,

3340
02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:40,520
since you had the the deep North Temple

3341
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:42,480
Road added there, you probably would

3342
02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:45,880
want the 112 going north to go straight

3343
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:48,120
that same route, add it to the truck

3344
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:50,630
route.

3345
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:51,600
Okay.

3346
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:53,160
Yeah, that's that's something those are

3347
02:06:53,160 --> 02:07:21,990
some updates we can make.

3348
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:22,880
» Mayor, I'll make [clears throat] a

3349
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:26,480
motion we approve resolution 2026-49

3350
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:29,040
approving the 2026 update to the

3351
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:31,080
Grantsville City transportation master

3352
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:33,720
plan with the updates that our city

3353
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:35,360
manager

3354
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:37,440
just ex- just suggested.

3355
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:39,120
>> Okay, we have a motion by Council member

3356
02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:40,840
Dalton. Is there a second?

3357
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:41,760
>> I second it.

3358
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:43,600
>> A second by Council member Williams. All

3359
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:44,560
in favor.

3360
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:46,280
>> Aye.

3361
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:48,990
>> All right.

3362
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,040
Item number 14, a consideration of

3363
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:53,320
resolution 2026-50

3364
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:55,000
approving the pickup of member

3365
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:57,640
contributions for Tier 2 public safety

3366
02:07:57,640 --> 02:07:59,160
and firefighter

3367
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,040
contributory retirement system and

3368
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:03,080
authorizing the related employer

3369
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:06,670
election form.

3370
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:07,960
» I should be online.

3371
02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:22,030
>> Mhm.

3372
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:22,960
» Are you there, Heidi?

3373
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:23,680
>> Mayor.

3374
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:28,830
>> I am. Good evening, Mayor and Council.

3375
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:30,360
Can you guys hear me okay?

3376
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:31,800
>> We can, yes.

3377
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:35,680
>> Perfect. So, historically, the city has

3378
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:39,240
picked up the public safety tier two

3379
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:42,160
contribution employee contribution. It's

3380
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:44,520
been at 4.73%.

3381
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:49,070
It is increasing to 5.98%.

3382
02:08:49,080 --> 02:08:51,160
The city can opt to continue picking

3383
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:54,080
that up for our officers or pass that on

3384
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:55,880
to the officers.

3385
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:57,600
I would recommend, obviously, to pick

3386
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:59,360
that up.

3387
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:00,720
To continue what we've done

3388
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:02,920
historically. This will allow our

3389
02:09:02,920 --> 02:09:05,680
officers to keep more of their take-home

3390
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:07,000
pay.

3391
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:09,440
Keeps us competitive with other agencies

3392
02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:14,990
as well.

3393
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:17,000
» Can you go over the the cost, I think by

3394
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:18,840
the Heidi?

3395
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:20,960
>> Yeah, of course. So, if we do opt to

3396
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:24,120
pick up the the additional cost, it

3397
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,920
would cost the city of Pop approximately

3398
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:30,710
$13,395

3399
02:09:30,720 --> 02:09:32,520
annually.

3400
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:35,440
That is if we keep the same exact number

3401
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:37,600
of officers we have

3402
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:39,160
that are in

3403
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:42,000
the tier two

3404
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:48,670
system.

3405
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:50,400
I did look at what other cities are

3406
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,560
doing. Um, there was 82

3407
02:09:53,560 --> 02:09:56,440
different um, responses that were in

3408
02:09:56,440 --> 02:09:59,000
there. 30 said that they were picking

3409
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,040
that up.

3410
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:04,200
12 said they were not picking it up, and

3411
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:06,000
eight of them

3412
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:10,190
were pending pick up.

3413
02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:12,360
To be determined, some were unknown, and

3414
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:14,160
then there was some no responses in

3415
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:25,750
there as well.

3416
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:27,560
» And just so you guys are aware, this

3417
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:30,000
isn't this isn't an additional benefit

3418
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:32,360
or a new benefit.

3419
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:33,640
Um

3420
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:38,640
it is that the city has been doing since

3421
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:39,600
well

3422
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:42,560
2020 was when I went back to. We were at

3423
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:50,830
2.27%.

3424
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:52,360
» Uh question Heidi, so you're saying if

3425
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:53,800
we don't pick this up the officers are

3426
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:55,680
going to be mandatory required then to

3427
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:57,440
they would have to contribute then to

3428
02:10:57,440 --> 02:10:58,760
the URS. They would be required.

3429
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:01,000
>> Yes, that is correct.

3430
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:02,640
>> And

3431
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:02,960
from what

3432
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:05,000
>> And they cannot opt out.

3433
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:07,160
>> Yes, okay.

3434
02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:08,600
This is the

3435
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:09,960
other states do this where they you

3436
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:13,600
force the officers to contribute to the URS system and it does it's

3437
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:15,200
mandatory. They don't have a choice. It

3438
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:17,120
takes it out of their pay.

3439
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:18,160
>> That is correct.

3440
02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:19,720
>> It would be a pay cut for our officers

3441
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:23,190
if we if we didn't pick this up.

3442
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:24,440
I mean it

3443
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:25,760
because they would it would it would be

3444
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:27,520
going to their retirement but it would

3445
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:31,760
be mandatory. They wouldn't have the option to not

3446
02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:35,910
contribute to that.

3447
02:11:35,920 --> 02:11:39,640
» That is correct. This isn't an optional

3448
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:42,320
benefit for them. It's something that

3449
02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:44,040
they have to pay into and it's part of

3450
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:46,240
their pension. So the money doesn't go

3451
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:48,360
directly into their pocket. It goes into

3452
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,040
their pension. So once they retire

3453
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:53,000
that's part of their the pension

3454
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:59,670
benefit.

3455
02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:01,840
» So I assume we don't have this increase

3456
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:04,120
in our new budget that we've worked on,

3457
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:05,480
correct?

3458
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:07,080
Cuz we didn't

3459
02:12:07,080 --> 02:12:10,520
did we know it was going to 5.98%?

3460
02:12:10,520 --> 02:12:11,640
As

3461
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:13,840
>> Mm, sorry. Uh Heidi can talk in a

3462
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:15,040
second. [clears throat] But no, so it's

3463
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:17,920
not in the current um

3464
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:19,240
interim budget that you guys approved

3465
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:21,360
earlier. I mean, we have

3466
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,160
budget for police officers for their

3467
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:24,880
benefits and stuff. So, we'll be able to

3468
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:26,880
pick it up immediately, but I actually

3469
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:29,200
have an email drafted to Heidi right now

3470
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:31,360
to just get together with her to get if

3471
02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:33,240
it's approved to get the official amount

3472
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:34,560
and then I would come to you at our

3473
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:36,040
first meeting in July with that budget

3474
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:38,440
amendment. So, it'd be like the July

3475
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:40,680
15th meeting, but

3476
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:42,720
>> And Heidi said it'd be around $13,000.

3477
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:43,960
>> Yeah. Yeah.

3478
02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:45,360
>> She said if we don't pick up any more

3479
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:47,120
officers, but we haven't approved any

3480
02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:48,280
more officers this year, so

3481
02:12:48,280 --> 02:12:50,040
>> Correct. So, we would we would only be

3482
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:51,520
budgeting for the current staffed

3483
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:53,840
officers at this time um because there

3484
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:56,160
wasn't any approved increases for

3485
02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:57,440
additional staffing. So,

3486
02:12:57,440 --> 02:12:59,440
>> sent us this number so it's not very

3487
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:01,160
significant earlier. Otherwise, we would

3488
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:02,080
have picked that

3489
02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:02,920
in the budget.

3490
02:13:02,920 --> 02:13:05,430
>> Yeah.

3491
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:07,320
» Is this a typical increase year-to-year

3492
02:13:07,320 --> 02:13:10,000
type thing? Is this uh

3493
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:10,680
um

3494
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:12,000
>> Are you going to give the background on

3495
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:14,000
how URS comes up with that?

3496
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:15,200
>> Yeah, give us a little retirement

3497
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:16,760
history on that program.

3498
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:22,040
>> Yeah, it Of course. Yeah, so in 2020

3499
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:24,880
2021 it was 2.7%,

3500
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:28,120
2022 was 2.59,

3501
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:31,040
2023 was also 2.59,

3502
02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:35,160
2024 it jumped to 4.73,

3503
02:13:35,160 --> 02:13:37,920
2025 4.73,

3504
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:42,710
and then it jumped up again to 5.98.

3505
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:45,120
» So, we're looking at like a 1.2

3506
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:47,760
>> 1.2 1.25

3507
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:48,480
>> percent increase.

3508
02:13:48,480 --> 02:14:15,230
yeah. Yes.

3509
02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:16,800
» So, another dumb question. Do we have

3510
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:18,400
the option to

3511
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:21,440
say we'll pay the 4.73%

3512
02:14:21,440 --> 02:14:23,120
we budgeted

3513
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:26,040
and make them pay the 1.98%

3514
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:27,760
that we haven't considered?

3515
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:28,480
>> Absolutely.

3516
02:14:28,480 --> 02:14:30,120
>> Yes.

3517
02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:32,360
you can.

3518
02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:34,480
>> But, again, that's going to put

3519
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:36,800
cuz they have to like mandatory, so

3520
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:38,520
that'll just come out of their portion

3521
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:47,390
of their paycheck they're taking off.

3522
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:49,160
» This is something that's straight across

3523
02:14:49,160 --> 02:14:51,120
the board, whether it be to public

3524
02:14:51,120 --> 02:14:54,120
safety or tier two or

3525
02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,840
public employees tier two as well. They

3526
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:59,320
have a They have an increase also that

3527
02:14:59,320 --> 02:15:02,040
the employees are picking up. The only

3528
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:03,880
difference is this The city's not

3529
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:05,880
allowed to pick up the public employee,

3530
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:10,270
but they can pick up public safety.

3531
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:12,880
» Is there not an increase for tier one?

3532
02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:18,030
>> No, there is not.

3533
02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:21,240
» But, we we do pick up tier one.

3534
02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:23,520
>> There is not a Tier one and tier two are

3535
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:26,600
a different They're a different entity.

3536
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:28,480
They They work a little bit different,

3537
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:30,160
and no, they don't have an employee

3538
02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:33,190
portion.

3539
02:15:33,200 --> 02:15:34,880
» Oh, I because they have the benefit of

3540
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:35,480
already

3541
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:36,600
>> They were in there before they

3542
02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:37,880
>> in there Yeah.

3543
02:15:37,880 --> 02:15:39,560
>> Correct.

3544
02:15:39,560 --> 02:15:40,880
Yeah, their benefit fits are a little

3545
02:15:40,880 --> 02:15:54,150
bit different.

3546
02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:55,360
» I think it's probably a good thing. I

3547
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:57,440
think the timing's crappy

3548
02:15:57,440 --> 02:15:57,640
>> Yeah.

3549
02:15:57,640 --> 02:16:00,080
>> cuz we spent

3550
02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:02,720
3 months hashing out a budget, and then

3551
02:16:02,720 --> 02:16:05,080
the night of approval.

3552
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:07,400
So,

3553
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:08,280
Yeah.

3554
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:10,000
That's just my feelings.

3555
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:12,640
>> Well, and I mean everybody knows mine is

3556
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:14,280
transparency. Obviously, my husband's in

3557
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:16,360
law enforcement, so I mean he's ran for

3558
02:16:16,360 --> 02:16:18,360
public safety, so

3559
02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:19,680
But I know these guys work hard and I

3560
02:16:19,680 --> 02:16:22,120
can I I always support fire and law

3561
02:16:22,120 --> 02:16:24,800
enforcement. Um and this would be a huge

3562
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:26,040
change for them. This is not something

3563
02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:27,520
that And it wouldn't they wouldn't see

3564
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:29,760
it in their if if we said it if we if we

3565
02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:30,720
said we're going to pick this up, they

3566
02:16:30,720 --> 02:16:31,760
don't see any difference in their

3567
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:32,760
paychecks. We're not giving them a

3568
02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:35,160
raise. We're we're doing what we have to

3569
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:37,719
do to match what URS is giving them. Um

3570
02:16:37,719 --> 02:16:39,880
so they can keep that pension and not

3571
02:16:39,880 --> 02:16:41,160
have it come out of their pocket. But

3572
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:42,360
that's always

3573
02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:43,639
most of the cities I've seen have been

3574
02:16:43,639 --> 02:16:45,559
doing that. Most departments.

3575
02:16:45,559 --> 02:16:46,920
I guess. I shouldn't say all because

3576
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:48,120
obviously Heidi said there's some that

3577
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:50,320
haven't, but um it's a benefit in Utah.

3578
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:52,280
Like, you know, I know Arizona doesn't

3579
02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:53,679
and that was a pay cut for us when we

3580
02:16:53,679 --> 02:16:55,519
moved to Arizona because the state does

3581
02:16:55,519 --> 02:16:57,120
require you to do that. And it's hard

3582
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:59,679
for some of these younger guys who, you

3583
02:16:59,679 --> 02:17:00,960
know, of course they're probably not

3584
02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:01,840
thinking about retirement and they

3585
02:17:01,840 --> 02:17:02,920
shouldn't, but if you're suddenly saying

3586
02:17:02,920 --> 02:17:05,760
now you must contribute and it's $13,000

3587
02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:06,960
a year.

3588
02:17:06,960 --> 02:17:08,280
It's unfortunate that they increase this

3589
02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:10,440
and we don't have a

3590
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:12,040
say in that, but

3591
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:13,719
that's my

3592
02:17:13,719 --> 02:17:23,910
uh

3593
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:25,160
» Yeah, I mean if you look at the numbers

3594
02:17:25,160 --> 02:17:26,679
what other people are doing, you've got

3595
02:17:26,679 --> 02:17:29,800
the you've got 30 that are saying yes,

3596
02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:31,679
we're picking it up and you have eight

3597
02:17:31,679 --> 02:17:33,320
who are pending

3598
02:17:33,320 --> 02:17:35,639
and 12 who say no, we're not picking

3599
02:17:35,639 --> 02:17:38,360
that additional up.

3600
02:17:38,360 --> 02:17:40,080
>> So for of the 12, are you saying they're

3601
02:17:40,080 --> 02:17:41,960
just keeping the 4.73 and they're making

3602
02:17:41,960 --> 02:17:44,200
the officers pay the difference?

3603
02:17:44,200 --> 02:17:46,880
>> Correct. But they also

3604
02:17:46,880 --> 02:17:49,040
if you if I was to look at those cities,

3605
02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:52,519
they could be paying more than a 3%

3606
02:17:52,519 --> 02:17:54,880
cola. They could also be paying a merit

3607
02:17:54,880 --> 02:17:56,240
as well.

3608
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:58,559
So it's hard to compare kind of apples

3609
02:17:58,559 --> 02:18:00,605
to apples on this.

3610
02:18:00,605 --> 02:18:07,110
>> [clears throat]

3611
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:08,480
» Jack, did you have something you wanted

3612
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:08,679
to say?

3613
02:18:08,679 --> 02:18:09,800
>> No, I was just saying I'm kind of in

3614
02:18:09,800 --> 02:18:12,760
line with Jeff's thoughts. So, you know,

3615
02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:15,015
it it's timing timing, but

3616
02:18:15,015 --> 02:18:17,750
>> [clears throat]

3617
02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:18,360
» Derek?

3618
02:18:18,360 --> 02:18:20,080
>> I don't like to put the pressure back

3619
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:20,920
there.

3620
02:18:20,920 --> 02:18:22,200
>> I'm just torn.

3621
02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:23,960
>> So.

3622
02:18:23,960 --> 02:18:25,639
>> I don't know.

3623
02:18:25,639 --> 02:18:26,719
I mean

3624
02:18:26,719 --> 02:18:30,160
they do great. They're all amazing, but

3625
02:18:30,160 --> 02:18:31,400
just

3626
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:42,350
the timing is what is

3627
02:18:42,360 --> 02:18:44,920
» Yeah, timing, but I yeah, I I also feel

3628
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:47,120
it should be put on their shoulders, in

3629
02:18:47,120 --> 02:18:51,270
my opinion. So.

3630
02:18:51,280 --> 02:19:07,549
I think we can find a way to do it.

3631
02:19:07,559 --> 02:19:09,639
» Mayor, I move that we approve resolution

3632
02:19:09,639 --> 02:19:12,120
2026-50 approving the pick-up of member

3633
02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:13,920
contributions for tier two public safety

3634
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:15,639
and firefighter contributory retirement

3635
02:19:15,639 --> 02:19:17,280
system and authorizing the related

3636
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:21,120
employer election form.

3637
02:19:21,120 --> 02:19:22,639
>> We have a motion by Council member

3638
02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:26,350
Skinner. Is there a second?

3639
02:19:26,360 --> 02:19:27,200
» I second.

3640
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:28,840
>> We have a second by Council member

3641
02:19:28,840 --> 02:19:31,320
Thomas. All in favor?

3642
02:19:31,320 --> 02:19:34,760
>> I.

3643
02:19:34,760 --> 02:19:36,800
>> All opposed?

3644
02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:38,280
>> Nay.

3645
02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:39,719
>> Okay, we'll do a roll call. Council

3646
02:19:39,719 --> 02:19:40,880
member Thomas.

3647
02:19:40,880 --> 02:19:41,840
>> I.

3648
02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:42,480
>> Dalton.

3649
02:19:42,480 --> 02:19:43,360
>> I.

3650
02:19:43,360 --> 02:19:43,920
>> Skinner.

3651
02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:44,920
>> I.

3652
02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:45,920
>> Uh Williams.

3653
02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:47,080
>> Nay.

3654
02:19:47,080 --> 02:19:49,870
>> All right.

3655
02:19:49,880 --> 02:19:51,240
Moving on to item

3656
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:53,440
>> say nay because of I would agree to the

3657
02:19:53,440 --> 02:19:56,280
4.73 that we budgeted. It's just the

3658
02:19:56,280 --> 02:19:58,160
additional. So.

3659
02:19:58,160 --> 02:19:59,400
just wanted to state that.

3660
02:19:59,400 --> 02:20:01,240
>> Okay. Thank you.

3661
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:03,800
Item number 15, consideration of an

3662
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:06,200
authorization to execute a memorandum of

3663
02:20:06,200 --> 02:20:07,960
understanding with the Tooele Technical

3664
02:20:07,960 --> 02:20:11,630
College.

3665
02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:12,960
» Um

3666
02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:15,040
I'll speak a little bit. We have the um

3667
02:20:15,040 --> 02:20:16,680
Jess affiliated with the Technical

3668
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:17,640
College here.

3669
02:20:17,640 --> 02:20:19,760
>> Thanks, Jess, for sticking with us this

3670
02:20:19,760 --> 02:20:20,600
whole time.

3671
02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:21,400
>> We do appreciate [laughter]

3672
02:20:21,400 --> 02:20:22,280
that.

3673
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:25,000
Uh with the budget cuts, we did cut uh

3674
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:27,120
the Technical College for the small

3675
02:20:27,120 --> 02:20:29,520
business amounts. We were contributing

3676
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:31,120
$20,000

3677
02:20:31,120 --> 02:20:32,920
to that small business alliance. We cut

3678
02:20:32,920 --> 02:20:34,840
that down to 5,000.

3679
02:20:34,840 --> 02:20:37,840
And so, this is the updated memorandum

3680
02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:40,040
to clarify that and then then put it as

3681
02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:43,680
a yearly um review is what we we've

3682
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:46,360
agreed to and they they've agreed to

3683
02:20:46,360 --> 02:20:47,720
make that change. And so, they're going

3684
02:20:47,720 --> 02:20:50,600
to come now yearly to us and kind of

3685
02:20:50,600 --> 02:20:53,760
again, depending on how much um

3686
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:56,120
uh and uh

3687
02:20:56,120 --> 02:20:58,920
growth we see as a city from residential

3688
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:01,280
to our uh retail type thing and

3689
02:21:01,280 --> 02:21:03,640
industrial, maybe we can up that number

3690
02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:05,040
in the future. Cuz we do want to

3691
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:06,720
recognize that our that that

3692
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:09,040
contribution that they have to the small

3693
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:10,600
businesses and what they bring to

3694
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:13,960
Grantsville is is uh is is huge and we

3695
02:21:13,960 --> 02:21:15,880
want to keep that program going unless

3696
02:21:15,880 --> 02:21:17,760
the council directs otherwise. But,

3697
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:19,520
staff felt that that's a very important

3698
02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:21,320
program for our small businesses and

3699
02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:23,400
their contribution to that.

3700
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:24,680
So, we didn't want to exclude that

3701
02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:26,280
entirely. And so, if you have you have

3702
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:28,200
any questions about the small business

3703
02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:30,520
alliance, Jess is here to answer those.

3704
02:21:30,520 --> 02:21:32,560
Otherwise, the the memorandum's just

3705
02:21:32,560 --> 02:21:34,640
going to be changing it and reducing it

3706
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:37,080
from the 20,000 to the 5,000 and then to

3707
02:21:37,080 --> 02:21:48,750
a yearly basis.

3708
02:21:48,760 --> 02:21:51,320
» And I I would also like to echo

3709
02:21:51,320 --> 02:21:53,600
Michael's statement that we we do

3710
02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:55,400
recognize and appreciate the

3711
02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:57,280
contributions of the Tooele Technical

3712
02:21:57,280 --> 02:21:58,600
College and

3713
02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:00,960
all that they do for our county and our

3714
02:22:00,960 --> 02:22:02,040
city.

3715
02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:03,680
>> May I address the council?

3716
02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:08,070
>> You sure may. Yes.

3717
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:13,080
» I want to thank uh the manager for his uh his handling

3718
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:15,680
of this and I just want to take a minute

3719
02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:17,760
and thank Grantsville City for the

3720
02:22:17,760 --> 02:22:19,480
support that you give to small

3721
02:22:19,480 --> 02:22:21,120
businesses.

3722
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:23,840
Um it makes a lot possible.

3723
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:25,600
Um

3724
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:27,600
at the SBDC and Tooele Technical

3725
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:29,760
College, we're not unsympathetic to the

3726
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:31,720
challenges that your city's facing right

3727
02:22:31,720 --> 02:22:32,680
now.

3728
02:22:32,680 --> 02:22:35,640
Uh we know and and we get it and uh and

3729
02:22:35,640 --> 02:22:38,040
we want to be there with you on it.

3730
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:41,120
So uh we understand this and and and and

3731
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:43,000
I just want to say that that we're

3732
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:44,960
nothing but grateful

3733
02:22:44,960 --> 02:22:47,040
uh for your willingness to continue to

3734
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:49,360
support those small businesses.

3735
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:51,480
Um I don't know if they were able to get

3736
02:22:51,480 --> 02:22:53,920
the report that I shared with you.

3737
02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:54,280
Or

3738
02:22:54,280 --> 02:22:54,800
>> Not yet.

3739
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:56,640
>> Okay. I I brought copies. I'll leave

3740
02:22:56,640 --> 02:23:01,000
them with uh with the manager um

3741
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:02,720
to give you an an idea of what the

3742
02:23:02,720 --> 02:23:06,320
impact has been since we started uh in

3743
02:23:06,320 --> 02:23:09,720
2018 in Grantsville City specifically so

3744
02:23:09,720 --> 02:23:11,360
you can see that.

3745
02:23:11,360 --> 02:23:13,520
Um I don't share that with you as any

3746
02:23:13,520 --> 02:23:15,840
kind of leverage or anything but uh I

3747
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:19,400
come every year in the fall to to report

3748
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:21,800
on our impact and I'm looking forward to

3749
02:23:21,800 --> 02:23:23,680
doing that again this year.

3750
02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:26,920
Um but I just want to say thank you

3751
02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:29,120
and I'll leave this information with you

3752
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:32,480
that uh that might be uh helpful to you

3753
02:23:32,480 --> 02:23:34,200
and wish you well. We want to be a part

3754
02:23:34,200 --> 02:23:35,680
of the solution

3755
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:38,840
uh in any way that we can uh for the

3756
02:23:38,840 --> 02:23:41,280
challenges that you're facing.

3757
02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:43,080
And we're fully confident that those are

3758
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:45,480
going to be resolved and look forward to

3759
02:23:45,480 --> 02:23:48,160
uh future partnerships. So uh thank you

3760
02:23:48,160 --> 02:23:49,720
again.

3761
02:23:49,720 --> 02:24:09,430
>> Thank you. Thanks, Jess.

3762
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:11,720
» We need a motion to pass this uh just an

3763
02:24:11,720 --> 02:24:13,360
authorization to execute. Is that what

3764
02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:14,440
we're doing? Okay.

3765
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:18,710
>> I make a motion um

3766
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:20,880
that we authorize the execution of a

3767
02:24:20,880 --> 02:24:22,760
memorandum of understanding with Utah

3768
02:24:22,760 --> 02:24:24,400
Technical College.

3769
02:24:24,400 --> 02:24:25,680
>> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a

3770
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:27,240
second? A motion by Council member

3771
02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:29,480
Williams. Is there a second?

3772
02:24:29,480 --> 02:24:30,160
>> I'll second.

3773
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:31,880
>> A second by Council member Dalton. All

3774
02:24:31,880 --> 02:24:32,920
in favor?

3775
02:24:32,920 --> 02:24:34,440
>> I I

3776
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:37,830
>> All right.

3777
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:39,800
Item number 16, a consideration of

3778
02:24:39,800 --> 02:24:42,200
resolution 2026-43

3779
02:24:42,200 --> 02:24:44,520
approving the Utah Wildfire Resources

3780
02:24:44,520 --> 02:24:46,480
Memorandum of Understanding between the

3781
02:24:46,480 --> 02:24:48,960
Utah Division of Forestry, Fire, and

3782
02:24:48,960 --> 02:24:50,400
State Lands and the Grantsville

3783
02:24:50,400 --> 02:24:54,870
Volunteer Fire Department.

3784
02:24:54,880 --> 02:24:55,240
» Hello.

3785
02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:57,920
>> Mayor, Council members. Jason Remy, Fire

3786
02:24:57,920 --> 02:25:00,320
Chief, Grantsville Fire. So, this res-

3787
02:25:00,320 --> 02:25:03,120
resolution seeks support of approval for

3788
02:25:03,120 --> 02:25:04,280
an

3789
02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:06,160
MOU between the Grantsville Volunteer

3790
02:25:06,160 --> 02:25:08,280
Fire Department, Grantsville City, and

3791
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:12,560
the Utah Division of Forestry, Fire, and State Lands.

3792
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:14,680
The purpose of this MOU is to formalize

3793
02:25:14,680 --> 02:25:16,800
how all all fire resources are

3794
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:19,160
coordinated and utilized between our

3795
02:25:19,160 --> 02:25:21,200
city and the state.

3796
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:24,600
So, this should have come in with the

3797
02:25:24,600 --> 02:25:27,240
I just lost my train of thought.

3798
02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:27,640
>> Cooperation

3799
02:25:27,640 --> 02:25:29,120
>> The cooperation agreement that we

3800
02:25:29,120 --> 02:25:30,600
approved

3801
02:25:30,600 --> 02:25:31,200
>> a month ago.

3802
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:31,600
>> Yeah.

3803
02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:32,880
>> A month ago.

3804
02:25:32,880 --> 02:25:34,560
This should have been with that. So,

3805
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:36,840
it's just an addition to that. So,

3806
02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:38,920
it's how we work with the state and when

3807
02:25:38,920 --> 02:25:40,440
we go out on a wildland fires, they pay

3808
02:25:40,440 --> 02:25:41,920
us.

3809
02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:43,560
>> That's what I was curious. I was like we

3810
02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:45,920
I think we got how we nailed this one,

3811
02:25:45,920 --> 02:25:46,320
but it's

3812
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:47,626
>> Yeah, they didn't send this extra

3813
02:25:47,626 --> 02:25:48,440
[clears throat] documents.

3814
02:25:48,440 --> 02:25:51,030
>> Yeah, okay.

3815
02:25:51,040 --> 02:25:55,390
» So, we're just seeking approval for

3816
02:25:55,400 --> 02:25:57,840
the mayor or city manager to sign it and

3817
02:25:57,840 --> 02:26:01,070
send it back to state.

3818
02:26:01,080 --> 02:26:02,880
» They do this every year, right? Same

3819
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:03,200
thing.

3820
02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:08,030
>> Yeah.

3821
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:10,480
Any discussion?

3822
02:26:10,480 --> 02:26:12,120
Mayor make a motion motion we move to

3823
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:15,680
approve resolution 2026-43 approving the

3824
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:18,000
Utah Wildfire Resources Memorandum of

3825
02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:19,680
Understanding between Utah Division of

3826
02:26:19,680 --> 02:26:22,360
Forestry, Fire, and State Lands and our

3827
02:26:22,360 --> 02:26:24,480
fabulous Grantsville Volunteer Fire

3828
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:25,800
Department.

3829
02:26:25,800 --> 02:26:27,200
>> We have a motion by Council member

3830
02:26:27,200 --> 02:26:29,160
Thomas. Is there a second?

3831
02:26:29,160 --> 02:26:30,040
>> I'll second that.

3832
02:26:30,040 --> 02:26:31,880
>> Second by Council member Skinner. All in

3833
02:26:31,880 --> 02:26:32,720
favor?

3834
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:35,280
>> Aye.

3835
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:38,750
>> All right.

3836
02:26:38,760 --> 02:26:41,520
Uh agenda item number 17 is Council

3837
02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:43,080
reports.

3838
02:26:43,080 --> 02:26:45,080
Um I'll start with

3839
02:26:45,080 --> 02:26:47,630
Jake.

3840
02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:51,000
» Um I I give I'll go quick. Uh

3841
02:26:51,000 --> 02:26:55,000
update on obviously

3842
02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:58,000
the Memorial Park is moving forward um

3843
02:26:58,000 --> 02:26:59,680
in anticipation of trying to get that

3844
02:26:59,680 --> 02:27:01,120
closer to being finished by the 4th of

3845
02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:02,760
July. I don't know if we'll we'll reach

3846
02:27:02,760 --> 02:27:04,840
that or not, but the the name walls have

3847
02:27:04,840 --> 02:27:06,680
been poured. The

3848
02:27:06,680 --> 02:27:08,880
plinth um

3849
02:27:08,880 --> 02:27:10,480
has been

3850
02:27:10,480 --> 02:27:12,000
uh foundation has been poured, and then

3851
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:14,280
they were in the in the process of

3852
02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:16,520
laying out the Purple Heart.

3853
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:17,960
Um

3854
02:27:17,960 --> 02:27:20,680
Uh and so uh progress moving along well

3855
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:24,200
in that. It's It's It's looking great.

3856
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:25,720
Um

3857
02:27:25,720 --> 02:27:27,040
I had something that I was going to

3858
02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:28,960
address specifically on that, but now I

3859
02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:32,400
can't remember what it was, but um

3860
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:34,640
yeah, that first phase is moving is

3861
02:27:34,640 --> 02:27:35,720
moving there. We're going to have some

3862
02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:38,840
challenges after we achieve that first

3863
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:41,520
phase and and kind of where we go next.

3864
02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:42,640
Um

3865
02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:44,840
but yeah, getting those primary

3866
02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:47,000
components in is is

3867
02:27:47,000 --> 02:27:48,920
it's moving forward. I know that

3868
02:27:48,920 --> 02:27:51,320
is exciting for many who have

3869
02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:52,680
a lot of time in.

3870
02:27:52,680 --> 02:27:54,520
Uh they

3871
02:27:54,520 --> 02:27:57,920
uh we've seen some preliminary

3872
02:27:57,920 --> 02:27:59,760
uh they're going to have a miniature

3873
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:02,000
version of the statue.

3874
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:03,440
Um and I believe they'll have that for

3875
02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:05,360
the 4th of July, so you can you can see

3876
02:28:05,360 --> 02:28:07,880
that. Uh it was they they started the

3877
02:28:07,880 --> 02:28:10,440
clay process and he brought that to

3878
02:28:10,440 --> 02:28:12,800
uh one of the meetings. Specifically,

3879
02:28:12,800 --> 02:28:15,320
it's it's going to fit in Grantsville.

3880
02:28:15,320 --> 02:28:20,920
Almost it it looks Grantsville. So, um so you'll get to see I know they've

3881
02:28:20,920 --> 02:28:22,207
got renderings of it, but

3882
02:28:22,207 --> 02:28:23,120
[clears throat] it

3883
02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:26,240
it's amazing the uh amount of detail

3884
02:28:26,240 --> 02:28:28,000
that goes into

3885
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:30,280
creating a statue right down to

3886
02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:31,680
measuring

3887
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:34,400
the firearm, the length of the firearm,

3888
02:28:34,400 --> 02:28:35,880
how, you know,

3889
02:28:35,880 --> 02:28:38,480
and this is all modeled after um

3890
02:28:38,480 --> 02:28:40,280
individuals, and so

3891
02:28:40,280 --> 02:28:42,400
uh really really going to be a neat

3892
02:28:42,400 --> 02:28:44,960
feature. Uh you'll get to see what the

3893
02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:47,280
statue will look like uh for the 4th of

3894
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:49,880
July. They'll have that. Um

3895
02:28:49,880 --> 02:28:51,960
in the booth. So, encourage people to

3896
02:28:51,960 --> 02:28:55,630
take a look at that. Um

3897
02:28:55,640 --> 02:28:59,880
We've got uh we've had several discussions with

3898
02:28:59,880 --> 02:29:01,800
regarding the

3899
02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:05,880
uh use of the park and and to report

3900
02:29:05,880 --> 02:29:09,000
uh that is is moving forward. More more

3901
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:11,040
information to come on that, probably

3902
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:13,320
following following us another report

3903
02:29:13,320 --> 02:29:15,720
after some internal meetings.

3904
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:18,590
Um

3905
02:29:18,600 --> 02:29:20,480
We started uh

3906
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:23,480
we had our first economic development uh

3907
02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:24,520
meeting. Thanks to all those who were

3908
02:29:24,520 --> 02:29:27,040
involved in that. Um

3909
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:28,480
and

3910
02:29:28,480 --> 02:29:31,080
pushing that further forward um and

3911
02:29:31,080 --> 02:29:33,160
growing that to try to ensure we're

3912
02:29:33,160 --> 02:29:34,640
supporting

3913
02:29:34,640 --> 02:29:38,240
that we're we're doing a better up you know, we're

3914
02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:41,160
looking for a better opportunity to

3915
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:43,520
hopefully lower the tax

3916
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:44,400
uh

3917
02:29:44,400 --> 02:29:46,280
taxes that are issued to individuals and

3918
02:29:46,280 --> 02:29:47,600
try to help

3919
02:29:47,600 --> 02:29:49,520
more businesses [snorts] come in and

3920
02:29:49,520 --> 02:29:54,080
help carry some of that burden for our residents. So,

3921
02:29:54,080 --> 02:29:55,720
uh that's encouraging and moving

3922
02:29:55,720 --> 02:29:58,160
forward. So, lots of good stuff.

3923
02:29:58,160 --> 02:29:59,804
>> All right, thanks Jake Dark.

3924
02:29:59,804 --> 02:30:00,480
>> [clears throat]

3925
02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:02,080
>> I don't know how much. Um I did just

3926
02:30:02,080 --> 02:30:03,960
kind of have a question. Um I was at

3927
02:30:03,960 --> 02:30:06,280
Scenic Slopes and it looks great by the

3928
02:30:06,280 --> 02:30:08,440
way. It's amazing, but it's still an

3929
02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:10,400
active construction zone. And so, my

3930
02:30:10,400 --> 02:30:12,920
just my question was I saw about 10 15

3931
02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:14,120
kids

3932
02:30:14,120 --> 02:30:16,640
using that that pump track. And I didn't

3933
02:30:16,640 --> 02:30:18,440
know if we were trying to

3934
02:30:18,440 --> 02:30:23,720
get them off, avoid it, or what what are we on that? I just feel like

3935
02:30:23,720 --> 02:30:25,160
there might be a liability with

3936
02:30:25,160 --> 02:30:26,659
>> You think? Yeah.

3937
02:30:26,659 --> 02:30:27,440
>> [laughter]

3938
02:30:27,440 --> 02:30:29,800
>> It's real popular already and has been

3939
02:30:29,800 --> 02:30:30,760
discussed

3940
02:30:30,760 --> 02:30:33,360
multiple times in the Scenic Slopes park

3941
02:30:33,360 --> 02:30:36,760
and our meetings. Um

3942
02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:38,960
It's there.

3943
02:30:38,960 --> 02:30:40,360
It yes.

3944
02:30:40,360 --> 02:30:41,960
>> But it it has a fence around it right

3945
02:30:41,960 --> 02:30:42,920
now, but

3946
02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:46,880
the liability is on the

3947
02:30:46,880 --> 02:30:49,680
contractor cuz we have instructed him to

3948
02:30:49,680 --> 02:30:52,440
fence it up or put a barricade or some

3949
02:30:52,440 --> 02:30:53,840
sort of

3950
02:30:53,840 --> 02:30:56,600
blockage there, but he's again hasn't

3951
02:30:56,600 --> 02:30:58,200
done that. We can The council really

3952
02:30:58,200 --> 02:31:00,160
wants us to get him to put in the fence.

3953
02:31:00,160 --> 02:31:01,560
That might cost more money to do it

3954
02:31:01,560 --> 02:31:03,280
around the entire park.

3955
02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:05,760
Or you do enforcement, but then how do

3956
02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:09,230
you enforce that 24/7?

3957
02:31:09,240 --> 02:31:11,040
» I mean it's great it's being used, but I

3958
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:12,560
saw it and I was just like

3959
02:31:12,560 --> 02:31:14,160
>> I don't disagree. I don't know about

3960
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:14,475
that.

3961
02:31:14,475 --> 02:31:14,680
>> [laughter]

3962
02:31:14,680 --> 02:31:16,000
>> I've been there twice and the two times

3963
02:31:16,000 --> 02:31:17,400
I've been there

3964
02:31:17,400 --> 02:31:19,480
20 individuals and I I say guys you're

3965
02:31:19,480 --> 02:31:21,320
not supposed to be out here.

3966
02:31:21,320 --> 02:31:24,000
You know, and it's and they're just

3967
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:25,280
I mean

3968
02:31:25,280 --> 02:31:27,240
don't go home and look at your tablets,

3969
02:31:27,240 --> 02:31:28,229
right? Like

3970
02:31:28,229 --> 02:31:29,520
>> [laughter]

3971
02:31:29,520 --> 02:31:30,960
>> You're out here You're out here using

3972
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:32,360
something that we, you know, we're

3973
02:31:32,360 --> 02:31:33,760
building.

3974
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:36,040
I I appreciate you brought it up. So, I'd

3975
02:31:36,040 --> 02:31:38,160
just say concern.

3976
02:31:38,160 --> 02:31:39,560
>> I can look into it. So, I wasn't super

3977
02:31:39,560 --> 02:31:40,720
good at the contract.

3978
02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:42,200
>> Can we just reiterate it again and get

3979
02:31:42,200 --> 02:31:45,760
it on the record that we have concern there.

3980
02:31:45,760 --> 02:31:47,280
>> I mean, it's it's encouraging to see all

3981
02:31:47,280 --> 02:31:48,680
those kids there. It's going to get

3982
02:31:48,680 --> 02:31:50,960
used. So, it'd be nice if we could just

3983
02:31:50,960 --> 02:31:54,160
get get that area finished and so

3984
02:31:54,160 --> 02:31:54,680
That's all.

3985
02:31:54,680 --> 02:31:55,920
>> It is looking good that way. It's

3986
02:31:55,920 --> 02:31:59,270
looking good. It's amazing.

3987
02:31:59,280 --> 02:31:59,680
» Great.

3988
02:31:59,680 --> 02:32:01,360
>> Not much on my mind. We did Tula County

3989
02:32:01,360 --> 02:32:03,000
Board of Health in there last month and

3990
02:32:03,000 --> 02:32:04,680
went over, which was fun. We all drove

3991
02:32:04,680 --> 02:32:05,640
out there.

3992
02:32:05,640 --> 02:32:08,185
Well, Eric Stromberg flew out there, but

3993
02:32:08,185 --> 02:32:08,680
>> [laughter]

3994
02:32:08,680 --> 02:32:09,720
>> So, it was fun. It was fun to go out to

3995
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:11,400
Wendover. Um

3996
02:32:11,400 --> 02:32:13,520
and the Tula County Board of Health has

3997
02:32:13,520 --> 02:32:15,040
they I From what I've learned, they have

3998
02:32:15,040 --> 02:32:16,400
a lot of resources. Like, they have a

3999
02:32:16,400 --> 02:32:18,080
dentist office there that I didn't know.

4000
02:32:18,080 --> 02:32:19,560
People so, I don't know if the citizens

4001
02:32:19,560 --> 02:32:20,840
of Grantsville know, you can go get

4002
02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:22,320
low-cost I don't know all what they

4003
02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:23,480
have, but they actually have a dentist

4004
02:32:23,480 --> 02:32:26,000
office at the Board of Health. So,

4005
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:27,920
that was interesting. They just talked a

4006
02:32:27,920 --> 02:32:29,080
little bit about the measles, how

4007
02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:31,160
they're containing that and things like

4008
02:32:31,160 --> 02:32:32,880
that. Um

4009
02:32:32,880 --> 02:32:34,040
They're getting ready to do their big

4010
02:32:34,040 --> 02:32:35,680
assessment. The the Board of Health is

4011
02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:37,920
now doing their data gathering. We also

4012
02:32:37,920 --> 02:32:39,800
joined a Utah Well-Being Project. They

4013
02:32:39,800 --> 02:32:40,880
were kind of pushing us to do that,

4014
02:32:40,880 --> 02:32:42,440
which sounds like Grantsville did great.

4015
02:32:42,440 --> 02:32:44,320
I haven't got the the data all back on

4016
02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:46,440
that yet, but um

4017
02:32:46,440 --> 02:32:47,800
We put that We put that out very quickly

4018
02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:48,880
cuz they were wanting us to do that, but

4019
02:32:48,880 --> 02:32:50,120
it sounds like overall it was positive.

4020
02:32:50,120 --> 02:32:53,400
We got a good response from the citizens. So,

4021
02:32:53,400 --> 02:32:55,200
I think we'll meet again next month and

4022
02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:56,520
get an update.

4023
02:32:56,520 --> 02:32:57,560
>> Great.

4024
02:32:57,560 --> 02:32:58,840
Jeff.

4025
02:32:58,840 --> 02:33:01,720
>> Um I did I mean, the mosquito abatement

4026
02:33:01,720 --> 02:33:03,800
board is such a small thing, but they

4027
02:33:03,800 --> 02:33:05,840
did spray for our rodeo, I think. And

4028
02:33:05,840 --> 02:33:08,000
for that, they I don't know if you guys

4029
02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:11,320
know, but they do spray our parks

4030
02:33:11,320 --> 02:33:14,000
prior to our fourth activities. So, that

4031
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:15,240
is um

4032
02:33:15,240 --> 02:33:17,880
they know our dates that we begin

4033
02:33:17,880 --> 02:33:19,840
and they will spray accordingly the

4034
02:33:19,840 --> 02:33:22,680
parks a week before that. So,

4035
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:24,600
I The football team thanks you, by the

4036
02:33:24,600 --> 02:33:25,000
way.

4037
02:33:25,000 --> 02:33:26,131
>> Yeah.

4038
02:33:26,131 --> 02:33:26,920
>> [laughter]

4039
02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:29,080
>> They're pretty much

4040
02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:30,800
do what we

4041
02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:33,920
I didn't say that right. They're very

4042
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:35,520
If we ask them to spray an area, they'll

4043
02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:37,800
spray an area. So, if anyone just text

4044
02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:40,160
me, call me if you if there's a

4045
02:33:40,160 --> 02:33:43,600
mosquito or some kind of problem,

4046
02:33:43,600 --> 02:33:46,920
the gnats are gone, obviously.

4047
02:33:46,920 --> 02:33:49,120
But, they do take care of us and they

4048
02:33:49,120 --> 02:33:51,320
know our dates, so

4049
02:33:51,320 --> 02:33:55,360
that's a it is a kind of a small benefit

4050
02:33:55,360 --> 02:33:57,640
to to Grantsville City.

4051
02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:00,320
The irrigation, we need to be there

4052
02:34:00,320 --> 02:34:02,600
on the water.

4053
02:34:02,600 --> 02:34:05,200
I'm aware of a few outstanding problems

4054
02:34:05,200 --> 02:34:07,400
we have there.

4055
02:34:07,400 --> 02:34:11,000
But, we'll address them as we have a

4056
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:12,880
resolution, so

4057
02:34:12,880 --> 02:34:15,560
I'm happy to be a part of that, too. So,

4058
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:18,320
they're a humble group of guys. They

4059
02:34:18,320 --> 02:34:20,496
pray for it to rain, so

4060
02:34:20,496 --> 02:34:21,400
>> [laughter]

4061
02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:23,200
>> So, it's good.

4062
02:34:23,200 --> 02:34:25,520
>> All right. Did Brett didn't ever join,

4063
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:26,960
correct? Okay.

4064
02:34:26,960 --> 02:34:28,480
>> Not that I can tell. I mean, unless he's

4065
02:34:28,480 --> 02:34:30,080
on an iPhone, but

4066
02:34:30,080 --> 02:34:31,760
>> Okay. That's okay.

4067
02:34:31,760 --> 02:34:33,000
Um

4068
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:35,320
I guess the biggest council report is

4069
02:34:35,320 --> 02:34:37,840
gearing up for the 4th of July.

4070
02:34:37,840 --> 02:34:40,280
Um we will send out sign-up sheets in

4071
02:34:40,280 --> 02:34:42,480
the next uh

4072
02:34:42,480 --> 02:34:44,440
hopefully tomorrow. Can we do that

4073
02:34:44,440 --> 02:34:46,920
tomorrow, Alicia? Send out some sign-ups

4074
02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:47,880
for

4075
02:34:47,880 --> 02:34:51,440
um hot dog cooking. So, get ready to eat

4076
02:34:51,440 --> 02:34:54,520
hot dogs for 9 straight days.

4077
02:34:54,520 --> 02:34:55,867
You're

4078
02:34:55,867 --> 02:34:56,080
>> [laughter]

4079
02:34:56,080 --> 02:34:57,880
>> I did verify just so you guys are aware,

4080
02:34:57,880 --> 02:35:00,720
I did verify it is one person has to

4081
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:03,120
have their food handler's permit per

4082
02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:07,480
station. Per group. Yeah, per group. So,

4083
02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:08,040
Jake

4084
02:35:08,040 --> 02:35:09,240
>> That's all I got of it last [laughter]

4085
02:35:09,240 --> 02:35:10,760
year, but this year I

4086
02:35:10,760 --> 02:35:15,120
know I might as well know what the cool

4087
02:35:15,120 --> 02:35:17,000
food at what temperature and how ice

4088
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:18,792
baths stuff. It was great.

4089
02:35:18,792 --> 02:35:20,200
>> [laughter]

4090
02:35:20,200 --> 02:35:21,400
>> So, it sounds like it's really

4091
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:23,160
enjoyable. If you haven't done your food

4092
02:35:23,160 --> 02:35:25,080
handler's permit, um if you could get

4093
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:27,240
that done, that would be wonderful.

4094
02:35:27,240 --> 02:35:28,200
And

4095
02:35:28,200 --> 02:35:29,640
>> Will you remind us where we go to do

4096
02:35:29,640 --> 02:35:30,280
that?

4097
02:35:30,280 --> 02:35:32,080
>> The food handler's permit? I can resend

4098
02:35:32,080 --> 02:35:32,680
the link to you.

4099
02:35:32,680 --> 02:35:33,960
>> Well, yeah. Thanks. Sorry.

4100
02:35:33,960 --> 02:35:37,470
>> That's okay.

4101
02:35:37,480 --> 02:35:38,200
Um

4102
02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:40,040
>> version is

4103
02:35:40,040 --> 02:35:41,800
I don't know if there's a live version,

4104
02:35:41,800 --> 02:35:43,400
but I I can't imagine being any better

4105
02:35:43,400 --> 02:35:44,880
than the online version.

4106
02:35:44,880 --> 02:35:47,440
>> It [laughter] sounds exciting.

4107
02:35:47,440 --> 02:35:51,360
Yes, the the activities that we have

4108
02:35:51,360 --> 02:35:52,800
will be

4109
02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:54,840
um lots of fun.

4110
02:35:54,840 --> 02:35:56,520
Lots of people. I appreciate all the

4111
02:35:56,520 --> 02:35:58,480
people that are willing to make those

4112
02:35:58,480 --> 02:35:59,960
things happen, especially our public

4113
02:35:59,960 --> 02:36:02,400
works department in moving all the

4114
02:36:02,400 --> 02:36:04,120
equipment back and forth all week long.

4115
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:06,520
It's a big job, and we appreciate that.

4116
02:36:06,520 --> 02:36:10,240
So, um as

4117
02:36:10,240 --> 02:36:12,840
I had some other things, but I'll just

4118
02:36:12,840 --> 02:36:14,800
address those with you later because

4119
02:36:14,800 --> 02:36:16,240
it's getting late.

4120
02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:20,320
Um thank you, everyone, for for your um

4121
02:36:20,320 --> 02:36:22,160
participation. Thank you for being here

4122
02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:24,360
tonight. And just a reminder that there

4123
02:36:24,360 --> 02:36:26,800
will be not be a council meeting on July

4124
02:36:26,800 --> 02:36:29,120
1st because the council will be cooking

4125
02:36:29,120 --> 02:36:31,520
hot dogs. So,

4126
02:36:31,520 --> 02:36:34,600
um we will meet again on the third

4127
02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:36,600
Wednesday of July.

4128
02:36:36,600 --> 02:36:38,520
And

4129
02:36:38,520 --> 02:36:40,480
I think that's everything.

4130
02:36:40,480 --> 02:36:42,600
Um Michael, do you have anything you

4131
02:36:42,600 --> 02:36:43,800
need to add tonight?

4132
02:36:43,800 --> 02:36:45,200
>> No, thank you, Kelly. Most of the stuff

4133
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:45,800
I had

4134
02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:48,600
>> Okay. Um Tyson, Alicia, anybody else on

4135
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:51,280
the city staff? Bill, Aspen, Christie?

4136
02:36:51,280 --> 02:36:52,480
Anything else that needs to be

4137
02:36:52,480 --> 02:36:54,360
addressed? Please. Thank you.

4138
02:36:54,360 --> 02:36:55,960
>> thank you on behalf of the tier two

4139
02:36:55,960 --> 02:36:59,120
employees for that contribution. I think

4140
02:36:59,120 --> 02:37:00,440
we have 11

4141
02:37:00,440 --> 02:37:04,880
um officers, and the Tier two is uh July

4142
02:37:04,880 --> 02:37:07,800
1st, 2020, 11. After that date is when

4143
02:37:07,800 --> 02:37:10,640
they are certified, and they also have

4144
02:37:10,640 --> 02:37:13,080
to work 25 years instead of

4145
02:37:13,080 --> 02:37:15,520
and less retirement. And some cities are

4146
02:37:15,520 --> 02:37:17,840
like picking up a little bit more 401k

4147
02:37:17,840 --> 02:37:20,280
and stuff to offset it. So, it is like

4148
02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:22,240
apples to apples, it's hard to compare,

4149
02:37:22,240 --> 02:37:24,040
but they will appreciate it, and I do as

4150
02:37:24,040 --> 02:37:24,880
well.

4151
02:37:24,880 --> 02:37:26,240
>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all

4152
02:37:26,240 --> 02:37:27,920
you guys do.

4153
02:37:27,920 --> 02:37:29,480
>> All right, we just need a motion to

4154
02:37:29,480 --> 02:37:31,480
adjourn.

4155
02:37:31,480 --> 02:37:33,160
>> I hear I make a motion we adjourn.

4156
02:37:33,160 --> 02:37:34,240
>> I second the motion.

4157
02:37:34,240 --> 02:37:36,920
>> All in favor?