1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:32,950 I said 2 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,370 Is he out? 3 00:00:35,370 --> 00:00:45,840 [laughter] 4 00:00:45,850 --> 00:00:47,280 » [clears throat] 5 00:00:47,280 --> 00:01:02,549 >> Yes. Just one. 6 00:01:02,559 --> 00:01:15,109 » Sticking out. 7 00:01:15,119 --> 00:01:18,320 and everyone else also play the 8 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:28,415 contractility. 9 00:01:28,425 --> 00:01:35,350 [clears throat] 10 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,840 But he also 11 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,000 >> in this one they we're going to have to 12 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:46,069 allow other people. 13 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:46,880 » Yeah. 14 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:55,030 >> Sure. But school is still 15 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,429 » you're ready. 16 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:01,280 » Okay. Welcome everybody. We're so glad 17 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,600 to see you all here. This is a regular 18 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,680 meeting of the Grantsville City Council. 19 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,479 For the record, today's date is July 15, 20 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:12,239 2026, and the time is 7 p.m. This 21 00:02:12,239 --> 00:02:13,840 meeting is being held at the Grantsville 22 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,400 City Council Chambers located at 429 23 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,959 East Main Street, Grantsville, Utah, as 24 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:21,599 well as electronically by Zoom. I am 25 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:23,280 Mayor Heidi Hammond, and I will conduct 26 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,280 a roll call. Council member Butler 27 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,840 >> here, 28 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,480 >> Dalton, 29 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:26,879 >> here. 30 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:27,520 >> Skinner, 31 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,080 >> here. 32 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,800 >> Thomas 33 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,280 >> here, 34 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,000 >> Williams 35 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,959 >> here. 36 00:02:30,959 --> 00:02:33,519 >> Thank you. If everyone would please uh 37 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:35,040 rise and join me in the pledge of 38 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,546 >> allegiance. 39 00:02:36,546 --> 00:02:41,350 [clears throat] 40 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,120 I aliance to the flag of the United 41 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,160 States of America and to the republic 42 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,000 for it stands one nation 43 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,800 indivisible with liberty and justice for 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:00,772 all. 45 00:03:00,782 --> 00:03:04,550 » [clears throat] 46 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,280 » All right. Our first agenda item tonight 47 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,480 um is public comment. The floor is open 48 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,400 to the public to bring their concerns to 49 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,519 the council for items not listed on the 50 00:03:15,519 --> 00:03:23,190 agenda. 51 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,630 Okay, let's go. 52 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:30,000 » Good evening, mayor and members of the 53 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,200 council. Thank you for your time 54 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,760 tonight. Uh my name is Jim McGregor. I 55 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,599 serve as IT director at a company called 56 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:37,680 Olive and Coco located in Salt Lake 57 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,400 City. Uh we are a luxury gift retailer. 58 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Um I'll be honest with you, I don't 59 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,400 personally live in Grantsville. Um my 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,080 home is in West Haven and I've traveled 61 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,440 the distance here tonight because this 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,080 issue matters enough to make the trip. I 63 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,440 hope that tells you something about how 64 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,599 important it is. I'm here on behalf of a 65 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:55,360 Granville resident and one of my valued 66 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,840 employees, uh, Miss Wendy McCury, who 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,799 lives at 233 West Vegas Street, which is 68 00:04:00,799 --> 00:04:04,000 about 2 miles north of here. Uh, Wendy 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,920 has called that home for 5 and a half 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,799 years since February 2021. She serves as 71 00:04:08,799 --> 00:04:11,280 our customer service lead at Olive Coco 72 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,720 and like a growing number of your 73 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,640 citizens, she works from home. In fact, 74 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,400 Miss Wendy McCrory could not be here 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,320 herself tonight because she's working 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,479 right now on shift from her home on 77 00:04:20,479 --> 00:04:22,880 Vegas Street. So that's why I'm here to 78 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,960 speak with you. Her livelihood depends 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,639 on the one thing this city has the power 80 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:28,560 to influence, a stable internet 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,040 connection. Right now, the homes on 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,199 Vegas Street can only get fixed wireless 83 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:35,440 service. It works for most of the time, 84 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,199 but isn't immune to weather. And when 85 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:38,720 conditions are bad, the connection can 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,960 falter. Even an occasional outage 87 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,639 matters when your job depends on being 88 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:46,080 online. It's a customer left waiting, 89 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,160 work disrupted, and a resident who feels 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,320 left behind by infrastructure everyone 91 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,639 else takes for granted. And here's what 92 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:54,400 makes it hard to accept. I have another 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,479 employee who lives right here in 94 00:04:56,479 --> 00:04:58,720 Grantsfield, a block over on Race 95 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,280 Street, and their home has quantum fiber 96 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,720 service today. Same city, same company, 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,199 two neighbors, just streets apart. And 98 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:09,039 one has a reliable connection while the 99 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:11,360 other has to settle for less. That's the 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,479 difference between the halves and the 101 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:14,800 halves not. And it comes down to nothing 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,320 more than the street which you happen to 103 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,800 live on. I'm asking you to close that 104 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,800 gap by advocating on Wendy's behalf and 105 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,639 on behalf of every household on Vegas 106 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,360 Street, urging Quantum Fiber to extend 107 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,080 service to their homes. Let me offer a 108 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,840 few reasons why this falls squarely 109 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:32,400 within your responsibility. First, 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,039 reliable internet is no longer a luxury. 111 00:05:35,039 --> 00:05:37,199 It's essential infrastructure as 112 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:40,160 fundamental as roads, water, and power. 113 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,000 You wouldn't accept a street where the 114 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,639 pavement washes out every time it rains. 115 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:47,680 Broadband deserves the same standard. 116 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Second, this is about economic vitality. 117 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,479 Remote work keeps residents earning, 118 00:05:52,479 --> 00:05:54,639 spending, and staying in Grantsville. 119 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:56,479 Every home you connect becomes a home 120 00:05:56,479 --> 00:05:58,080 where someone can build a career without 121 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,560 leaving the community. Fiber raises 122 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,039 property values, attracts new families, 123 00:06:03,039 --> 00:06:05,520 strengthens your tax base. This is an 124 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,120 investment in Grantsville's future, not 125 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,520 a favor to One Street. Now, let me tell 126 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,039 you why I believe so strongly. I've 127 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:13,600 lived in West Haven for 23 years, and 128 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,360 for much of that time, our internet was 129 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,240 a monopoly controlled by Xfinity. 130 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,800 One provider, no competition, and 131 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,039 residents paid the price. Then, in the 132 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:26,240 summer of 2023, we got Utopia Fiber, 133 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,240 better service at a lower cost. And it 134 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,479 didn't happen by accident. It happened 135 00:06:30,479 --> 00:06:32,319 because one city council member had the 136 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:34,639 vision to see what was possible and the 137 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:37,199 will to fight for it. That single effort 138 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:39,280 is improvise of every citizen in West 139 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:41,280 Haven. I've lived it and I know what 140 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:44,080 it's worth. That's why I'm asking one of 141 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,240 you to become That's why I'm asking one 142 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,160 of you to become for Grantsville the 143 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,240 person who sees the future and champions 144 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,280 it because a private company weigh 145 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:54,720 because a private company weighs where 146 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,319 to build based on demand and local 147 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:59,599 support. A letter, a resolution, a phone 148 00:06:59,599 --> 00:07:01,919 call from this council carries weight 149 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:03,599 that an individual resident simply 150 00:07:03,599 --> 00:07:06,080 cannot match. You have a voice here that 151 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,039 we do not. I'm not asking the city to 152 00:07:09,039 --> 00:07:11,840 build the network or foot the bill. I'm 153 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,199 asking you to be the champion of your 154 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:15,759 cit the champion your citizens need to 155 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:18,880 press Quantum Fiber to signal a grant to 156 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,479 signal that Gransville wants this 157 00:07:20,479 --> 00:07:22,560 investment to stand up for the residents 158 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,639 of Vegas Street. Thank you. I'm happy to 159 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:26,160 answer any questions. 160 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,599 >> Thank you very much. 161 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:30,400 >> Appreciate it. I stated earlier um just 162 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,319 for items not listed on the agenda, but 163 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:34,160 we do not have any public hearing items 164 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,080 tonight. So any items that you would 165 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,080 like to discuss with the council, this 166 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:48,790 is your opportunity. 167 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,560 » Good evening. I'm Jeff Aver. I live at 168 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,360 589 East Clark Street. And so I was here 169 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,280 to specifically talk about agenda item 170 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,360 number 13, which is the Falcon's Crest 171 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,680 uh subdivision that's uh that's under 172 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,240 consideration right now. I had sent a 173 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,800 letter, an email out at to each of you 174 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,800 um just uh addressing our concerns uh as 175 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,800 neighbors that are adjacent to that 176 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,680 property right now. We uh we'd come and 177 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,199 talked to the planning commission here 178 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:19,120 last week and and uh addressed some 179 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,479 concerns there. I think there were some 180 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:22,400 things that were kind of brought up 181 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,479 after the public comment section and we 182 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:26,560 didn't have an opportunity to kind of 183 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,940 rebut those or to discuss those 184 00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:31,360 [clears throat] and so I wanted to uh 185 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,760 take that opportunity tonight. We're 186 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,599 kind of uh we recognize that there will 187 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:37,440 be development. We recognize that people 188 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,479 are moving to Grantsville. We're not um 189 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:44,640 you know against that or uh or trying to 190 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,240 stop that from happening, right? We 191 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,760 recognize it's going to happen, but we 192 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,440 would like to mitigate the impacts of 193 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,360 that to existing neighbors who have been 194 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,240 here for a long time. 195 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,040 And so we I we just had seen some issues 196 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,560 with this with current city code. There 197 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:02,959 was an agreement or uh a development 198 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:04,800 agreement that had been put in place 199 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,440 previously and um that one had side 200 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,560 setbacks on the yards. I think the code 201 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,320 mentioned that it was seven and a half 202 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,760 feet and 15 on each side. This proposal, 203 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,680 this development proposes seven and a 204 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:22,399 half feet on each side and that does not 205 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:25,360 comply with current city code. Um it was 206 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,800 mentioned at the meeting that they were 207 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,440 essentially grandfathered in. Um since 208 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,200 this uh development um it states 209 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,720 in the current development agreement um 210 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,519 let's see it says whereas the project 211 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:41,440 subject to an approved preliminary plat 212 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,680 that is being voided and replaced in 213 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:45,839 this agreement. So that should not 214 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:49,360 indicate a grandfathered um exception to 215 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,320 current code. So, this development um 216 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,920 currently 217 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,720 um states that it's going to be 7 1/2 ft 218 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,920 setbacks on each side of each lot um in 219 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:03,600 the lots 1 through five and 23 through 220 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,399 27. That doesn't comply. That's going to 221 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:07,920 have a uh we're already going to have a 222 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,760 pretty big impact to our uh view to the north of that, right? We've got a 223 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,519 very nice unobstructed view and we 224 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:17,120 recognize that there is again going to 225 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,320 be some development there. We're trying 226 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,079 to mitigate that a little bit. And 227 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:23,200 having 15 ft between houses there and 228 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,200 these are going to be uh it's assumed 229 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,680 pretty tall uh just because of the small 230 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:29,360 lot sizes there. They're going to have 231 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,160 to go up and uh so we're trying to 232 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,760 mitigate that a little bit. We talked 233 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,959 about a little bit about a privacy 234 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:37,360 fence. And then the other issue that 235 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,200 we'd kind of noticed was um code calls 236 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,079 out a 10,000 foot minimum lot size at 237 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:46,480 least in the RM7 side on the south side 238 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,519 of that and uh there is a corner lot 239 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:51,680 there for the corner lots um there is a 240 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:53,200 corner lot there that doesn't meet that 241 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,279 lot number six specifically does not 242 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:58,720 meet that uh requirement. It's a 9,000 243 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,720 foot lot. So, we're just asking that um 244 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,000 current code be be honored and looked at 245 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,600 uh for this kind of a development. It's 246 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:08,880 already going to have a big impact on 247 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,560 us. We are just trying to mitigate that 248 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:13,600 as much as possible. And we feel like um 249 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,519 if there's exceptions to what's already 250 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:17,920 in place, that's that that that's just 251 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,120 going to make it worse for us. It's 252 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,880 going to be a more difficult um 253 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,360 transition into that. And this is going 254 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,279 to be a big transition from what's there 255 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:28,079 existing to what's proposed now. you're 256 00:11:28,079 --> 00:11:30,640 going to go to very small lots. We're on 257 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,519 anywhere from acre, half acre down to I 258 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:35,200 think there's a third acre lot there 259 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,040 now. And so we're going down to 7,000 260 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,440 square foot lots behind us and tall 261 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,680 houses. So we just ask that you kind of 262 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,200 consider that and we're just asking that 263 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,640 the city code be honored um uh with this 264 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,079 kind of a development and we make sure 265 00:11:48,079 --> 00:11:50,079 that so that we can mitigate the impacts 266 00:11:50,079 --> 00:11:51,760 that we have. So thank you for your 267 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,240 time. 268 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,310 >> Thank you. 269 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:06,949 Sorry. 270 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:13,120 » Hi, I'm Wayne Boyer. I'm here with the 271 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,360 get the information on this new 272 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,920 subdivision which is known [snorts] as 273 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,240 the Falcons. 274 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,279 And my concern is I have livestock 275 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:26,800 there. 276 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,720 And 277 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,240 this I received 278 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,760 and it shows me that the retention 279 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,480 center over here on the end of I believe 280 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,959 it's 30 I can't read it. It's 30 ft wide 281 00:12:44,959 --> 00:12:47,920 that goes from 282 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,279 0.1 to 10 283 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:55,920 and it's marked as a retaining. 284 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,279 My concern is what these lots are up 285 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:05,600 here. Is is the fencing going how's the 286 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,560 fencing going to be involved there? I 287 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,360 have livestock there. got problems 288 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,399 already with 289 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:19,200 things happening. I'm concerned now why 290 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,519 and what happens to these lots. They've 291 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:25,279 changed them down to this hair, which I 292 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:28,399 found out finally I have a new one that 293 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:32,560 you've changed all the all the zones in 294 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,800 99 apparently 295 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,920 that they exchanged. 296 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,639 I asked for this a while, never received 297 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:43,680 it. Know nothing about when it changed 298 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:49,040 the A10s and the RM7s now no longer in 299 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:55,430 existence. Is this correct? 300 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,360 » Say that again. 301 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,360 >> I understand RM7's no longer available. 302 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,800 Can't be used. 303 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,000 >> No, it's still exist. 304 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,360 >> Shelby, do you have something? 305 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,920 >> The RM7 still exists. It just cannot be 306 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,440 reszoned to RM7. 307 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,000 >> So, nobody can re 308 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,839 resone that. 309 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:18,949 >> Is that correct? 310 00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:24,160 Now with these others, what about the 311 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,320 retention center? How is that going to 312 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,760 affect me with my property goes from 313 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,509 point 314 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:36,480 one like I say across as you will can 315 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,360 see maybe you can't you don't have it 316 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,199 there stem lots they've changed them 317 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:45,519 down to to 7,000 318 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:48,480 square feet. Does that what what about 319 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,279 the retention center? Where where's the 320 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:53,360 water get to there or where does that is 321 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,000 that part of their backyard for play so 322 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,199 the kids can go back there from their 323 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:02,639 original lot number here? Is that is 324 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:06,800 that attached to that? 325 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,959 These lots are sitting here and then you 326 00:15:08,959 --> 00:15:10,959 got the retainers all the way across 327 00:15:10,959 --> 00:15:12,480 there 328 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,480 and against my fence line. 329 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,079 I'm concerned about my livestock whether 330 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:22,079 they can 331 00:15:22,079 --> 00:15:24,720 it's been there for 332 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,920 a hundred years owned it now they're 333 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,800 coming in and 334 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 I'm I just need to know where's the 335 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,279 water going in coming in where's it 336 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:37,199 going out I know it's retaining there 337 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:39,279 what's the depth of the retaining that's 338 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:42,880 going across that fence 339 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,959 >> so Wayne this isn't a a conversation 340 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:46,399 it's a comment 341 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:47,680 So you're you're giving us comments. 342 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,759 We're writing notes down and when we get 343 00:15:49,759 --> 00:15:51,920 to that point in the meeting, then we 344 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,240 can bring up those comments that you 345 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:54,560 made. 346 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,920 >> Well, I said comments now. 347 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:58,959 >> We can't answer. 348 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:01,279 >> No, I know. I'll be here. You You can 349 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:03,440 recall. 350 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,399 >> I just need to know a few things. That's 351 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:09,920 not a It's not uh quite right in my 352 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,560 opinion. 353 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,480 >> We will definitely address those. Thank 354 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:27,110 you. Any 355 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:33,829 other comments? 356 00:16:33,839 --> 00:16:36,720 » Anybody online? Alicia, 357 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,800 >> instructions. If you are online and 358 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,320 would you'd like and would like to make 359 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,480 a comment, please raise your hand. 360 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,356 >> Using Zoom. 361 00:16:49,366 --> 00:16:56,310 [clears throat] 362 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:03,749 » Yes. Kayen. Kaitlin. 363 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:05,039 » What? What is 364 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:07,520 >> Codle? Kayn Codgle. 365 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,240 >> Cogle. 366 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,160 Kaylin Cogle. If you'd like to 367 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,760 make a comment, you're welcome to. 368 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,480 >> Hi. I apologize. I logged in under my 369 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,799 son's account. My name is Brittney 370 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:22,720 Cogle. Um, I just wanted to make a 371 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,160 comment about the proposed 372 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,839 um 373 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:34,950 Where' it go? 374 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,720 No, I was like seven. Oh my gosh, now I 375 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,200 can't even. 376 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,640 >> Okay, so it's about to exhibit A for the 377 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,520 license plate 378 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,679 uh recognition data sharing program, the 379 00:17:51,679 --> 00:17:53,440 memorandum for for understanding. So 380 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,880 item section six. Um I just want to uh 381 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,520 give my comment on these pro types of 382 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,440 programs. They have been known to be 383 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,559 very unreliable, very scary AI programs. 384 00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:12,080 Um, in fact, I have some statistics 385 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,640 here. These cameras 386 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,160 make 387 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,440 out of every one out of every 10 cars 388 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,960 are scanned and recorded incorrectly. 389 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,559 and that makes the risk of our innocent 390 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:31,120 citizens being um arrested, searched, 391 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,039 detained, and held at gunpoint for no 392 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:37,460 viable reason. Um and then in the um 393 00:18:37,460 --> 00:18:40,150 [clears throat] 394 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,679 in the agreement that uh was posted 395 00:18:43,679 --> 00:18:49,520 online um it states that um the operator 396 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,960 um the organizer of the camera um even 397 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,679 that that are not held reliable and that 398 00:18:55,679 --> 00:18:58,880 it's solely liability is 399 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,880 passed down to the agency party which 400 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,280 would be Grantsville City and then 401 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:09,750 because Utah code 63G-7-101 402 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,280 um the governmental immunity act is in 403 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,760 place that means that no innocent 404 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,600 citizen can be compensated for time 405 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,520 imprisonment and cost effects of these 406 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,240 cameras misidentifying their vehicles. 407 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Um but there is a caveat on this. The 408 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,000 only person who actually can be sued is 409 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,720 our police officers. Um, there are many 410 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,280 cases out there where citizens are 411 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,919 winning millions of dollars that the 412 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:47,120 city's police officers have to pay 413 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,720 because they didn't do their due 414 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,360 diligence and correctly identify the 415 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:52,960 information 416 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,919 um of this person's vehicle or the 417 00:19:55,919 --> 00:19:59,440 information from the 418 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,280 that they received from for the crime 419 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,440 that was 420 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,679 a part of all of that. Um, so I just 421 00:20:05,679 --> 00:20:07,520 want to make sure you guys are aware 422 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,480 that these cameras are more dangerous 423 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,120 and they will be helpful. Um, it's also 424 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:16,960 extremely costly. Um, the subscription 425 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,520 alone for one of these monitoring 426 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,120 facilities that would monitor all this 427 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:25,200 data received is $30,000 a year. Um, and 428 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,080 then putting all of the risk onto our 429 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,280 police officers, I don't think that's 430 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,000 wise. We're we're not big enough of a 431 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,520 city to utilize these cameras and for 432 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,159 the safety of our citizens, for our 433 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:41,440 privacy rights, um that these cameras 434 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,240 would go against like it's I just highly 435 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,760 suggest you guys do not approve these 436 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,320 cameras in our city. 437 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,520 Thank you very much. 438 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,280 >> Thank you. Thanks for your comment. We 439 00:20:53,280 --> 00:21:06,870 appreciate it. Anybody else online? 440 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,480 No. 441 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,960 >> Okay, we will close the public comment 442 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,480 um agenda item and move on to agenda item number two, summary action 443 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,200 items. Uh the first one is approval of 444 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,840 minutes from the June 17th, 2026 city 445 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,640 council regular meeting. Does anybody on 446 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,559 the council have any questions or 447 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:28,640 comments or concerns about the minutes 448 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:38,230 from our previous meeting? 449 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:38,960 » Go ahead. 450 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,559 >> Now, mayor, I make a motion we approve 451 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:43,679 the minutes from our June 17, 2026 city 452 00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:45,600 council regular meeting. 453 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,200 >> We have a motion by council member 454 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,080 Williams. Is there a second? 455 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,960 >> Second the motion. 456 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,880 >> Second by council member Skinner. All in 457 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,000 favor? 458 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,400 >> I. 459 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,480 >> Okay. The next item is approval of 460 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,120 bills. Does anybody have any questions 461 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,880 or comments on the bills as they were 462 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:12,950 presented? 463 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,510 » If not, can I get a motion? 464 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,200 » Mayor, I make a motion. We move to 465 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,159 approve the bills as presented to us. We 466 00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:23,919 have a motion by council member Thomas. 467 00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:25,360 Is there a second? 468 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:26,000 >> Second. 469 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,919 by council member Butler. All in 470 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:29,520 favor? 471 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,280 >> I. 472 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,720 [clears throat] 473 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,000 >> Okay. Moving on to item number three is 474 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,919 a presentation of the Groundsville City 475 00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:40,080 Youth Council Scholarship Awards and 476 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,919 that will be presented by Jolene 477 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:49,750 Jenkins. 478 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,919 All right. Mayor Hammond, City Council, 479 00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:54,400 it's good to be with you today. And I 480 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,360 would like to have Alyssa McCoy come up 481 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:01,990 and Gwen Tavin. 482 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,600 And I have to say I have 483 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,159 loved working with the Grant City Youth 484 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:11,600 Council for the past I think it's been 485 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,320 four years. And but one of the things 486 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,000 that I don't like about it, I'm just 487 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 going to put in a complaint right now, 488 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,559 is that these darn youth graduate and 489 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:26,080 leave, but they go on and do amazing 490 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,039 things. And we have these two girls who 491 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:30,880 just graduated from Gransville High 492 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,120 School. And um we wanted to 493 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:37,600 honor them and give them our 494 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,840 appreciation and present them with 495 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,440 scholarships through the Grantsville 496 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,159 City Youth Council. And so first of all, 497 00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:47,039 Alyssa, she served with our youth 498 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:51,600 council for the past year and she 499 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,240 was amazing at being a leazison like 500 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,880 with all different groups and bringing 501 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,080 in all these wonderful ideas. Um she was 502 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,520 working on a podcast that hopefully 503 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,919 we'll be able to continue and work on 504 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:08,640 and um and just so many great ideas that 505 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,240 she brought. Uh both of these girls are 506 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,559 they've been insanely involved in so 507 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:17,679 many different groups. I know you had 508 00:24:17,679 --> 00:24:22,320 theater and youth court and dance, 509 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,440 right? Ballroom dance. What else? 510 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,559 >> Miss Granville. 511 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:28,720 >> Miss Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And Miss 512 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,120 Granville. I forgot like just that 513 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,480 little thing. Um, but uh before I 514 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,880 present it, Alyssa, do you want to say 515 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,720 one thing that you've gained from 516 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,559 working on the Gruntsville Youth 517 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:41,600 Council? 518 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,679 >> Sure thing. Um, [clears throat] 519 00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:45,679 all right. On the spot. Yippee. Let's 520 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:47,760 go. I think one thing I gained from 521 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,279 working on the Grantsville City Youth 522 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,600 Council was the ability to connect more 523 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,240 with my community because not only was I 524 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,919 connecting with them through my work as 525 00:24:55,919 --> 00:24:58,720 Miss Grantsville, obviously, it exposed 526 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,880 me to more opportunities like the 527 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,679 cemetery cleanup and our various 528 00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:05,520 meetings with multiple members of our 529 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,760 community. us getting to interview the 530 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,559 mayoral candidates for example, it gave 531 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:12,960 me a lot of opportunities c to connect 532 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,279 and really see the amazing community 533 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:17,279 that I live in. 534 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:17,919 >> Awesome. 535 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:18,240 >> Great. 536 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,159 >> Like if any of you are put on the spot 537 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:22,960 like that, if you have a speech like 538 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,640 that, [laughter] 539 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,640 >> that's amazing. So, we would like to 540 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,360 present Alysa McCulli with a $400 541 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,760 scholarship from Grantsville City. So, 542 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,669 congratulations. 543 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:38,559 All right, Gwen. Okay, I got to tell you 544 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,799 about Gwen. So, Gwen has served on our 545 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:43,200 youth council for three years and this 546 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,840 past year she served as our youth mayor 547 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,480 and um the hardest thing with with Gwen 548 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,039 is trying to keep up with her because 549 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:54,880 she's like we're gonna change the world 550 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,840 and she impacted Grantsville City with 551 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,640 the things that she did. um she was the 552 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,880 one who decided this past year that our 553 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,919 theme should be empowering youth voices 554 00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:09,200 and she really strived to do that to 555 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,120 make sure that the youth in our 556 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,840 community had a voice and to make sure 557 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,240 that you guys know what that voice is 558 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,360 and and what their concerns were. Uh so 559 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,840 Gwendalyn, same thing for you. If you'd 560 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,760 like to give us something that you've 561 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,200 gained from working on the youth 562 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,919 council. 563 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:28,960 >> Um let's see. Yeah, for the last three 564 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,200 years I I didn't think I was going to go 565 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,039 into the youth council, but the previous 566 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:36,000 mayor actually invited me in and I got 567 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,360 in um unofficially unfortunately, but 568 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:44,559 that's okay. I've learned a lot from my community and 569 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:46,720 I've learned a lot from myself. I've 570 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,320 learned um really how like personally I 571 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,600 like smiles. I like it when I go and 572 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,679 help up front instead of behind the 573 00:26:57,679 --> 00:27:00,320 scenes. And so whenever I see like a 574 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,720 children's smile or um you know I think 575 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,279 we did the clean up Main Street, right? 576 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,000 >> Yeah. That was the previous mayor's um 577 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,080 activity that we that we chose to 578 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,080 continue this year and I really liked 579 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,880 that one. One thing 580 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000 that really stood out, I think it was 581 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,799 this year's team. I really liked it. I 582 00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:26,559 really liked I mean, yeah, we had to 583 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,919 extend um the members from what was it 7 584 00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:31,120 to 15? 585 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,840 >> Uh 10 I think it was 12 to 15. 586 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,640 >> 12 to 15. And there was a lot of 587 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,440 involvement there. There was constant 588 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,240 people just coming up and you know 589 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,559 sharing their ideas. We did a think tank 590 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:49,360 which was really fun. Um, we invited, 591 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:50,960 who did we invite? 592 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,000 >> All of Twilla County. 593 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,520 >> All of Tula County. That was including 594 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,919 >> Rad Pack. Did we try and involve youth 595 00:27:57,919 --> 00:27:59,600 court? 596 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,399 >> I don't know. 597 00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:02,480 >> I think we tried, [laughter] 598 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,480 but that was really fun. So, just seeing 599 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,960 all the voices and seeing just really 600 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,880 the amount of impact we can create with 601 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200 just a little group like us. Um, hoping 602 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,240 that we can continue later on. So, yeah. 603 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,679 Awesome. Thank [clears throat] you. 604 00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:19,909 >> Yeah. Yeah. 605 00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:22,960 » So, we would like to present Gwen with a 606 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:29,909 $600 scholarship from Grantsville City. 607 00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:47,110 » Come on up, girls. Let's get a picture. 608 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,440 You'll be here in 20 years. 609 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,000 >> Hell yeah. 610 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,830 >> Maybe sooner. 611 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,120 » They do ask that at youth counsel. 612 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,799 They're like, "What's the age to run 613 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,430 for?" [laughter] 614 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,640 » Future leaders. 615 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,200 >> What is the age? 616 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,905 >> 18. 617 00:29:06,905 --> 00:29:08,080 [clears throat] 618 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,480 >> Next round, girls. [laughter] Right. 619 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,320 >> I might I might actually be fantastic. 620 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,760 >> Thank you. It's really been a pleasure 621 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,440 to work with them. They're amazing. So, 622 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,880 thank you so much for all of your 623 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320 contributions to our community. 624 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,200 >> Um and thank you Jolene for your um 625 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,799 effort and involvement in our youth 626 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:28,640 council and also council member Thomas. 627 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Thank you so much for keeping that 628 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,000 wonderful program going. Um agenda item 629 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,240 number four is a presentation of gift 630 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,960 presented by Aspen Kle uh the finance 631 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,269 director. 632 00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,799 » All right. Um we kept it vague because 633 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,640 the gift is um for Mayor Hammond and 634 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,279 Shelby. So 635 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:54,000 >> what is this? 636 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,159 >> I WAS LIKE WE HAVE TO KEEP IT VAGUE. I 637 00:29:56,159 --> 00:29:58,080 don't want to give it away. But as you 638 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,960 guys may recall, a couple I think just 639 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,799 the last council meeting, Shelby went 640 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,440 out of her way to have presented thank 641 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,960 you and like certificates for all the 642 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,240 help that you guys received for the 643 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,200 Grantsville City rodeo. Well, I was also 644 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,399 having a thank you made for you two. Um, 645 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:16,159 but in typical fashion, they didn't 646 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:18,399 arrive until the week after, of course. 647 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:21,120 But I do have belt buckles for both of 648 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,960 you that are personalized thank yous for 649 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,320 your work that you guys put in for the 650 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,919 rodeo. So your guys's enthusiasm and 651 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:32,320 dedication to getting a project done are 652 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,480 is inspiring. So we just wanted to say 653 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,679 thank you guys and present you with 654 00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:49,750 these. Thank you very much. 655 00:30:49,760 --> 00:31:05,350 Thanks, Alan. 656 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,080 » The rodeo was lots of fun and I can't 657 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,039 wait for next year. So, thank you. 658 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:12,480 Battle of the Bronx, 659 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,000 >> the full rodeo next year in October. We 660 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,840 do have Battle of the Bronx that has 661 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,520 been approved and we are excited about 662 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,840 that. So, we'll be hosting that October 663 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,200 10th. So, put that on your calendars. 664 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,520 So excited. And thank you again. Thanks 665 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,600 for all those who made that whole thing 666 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,679 possible. It was definitely a group 667 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:33,840 effort. 668 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,590 Um, 669 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,159 our next item is item number five, 670 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,240 introduction of newly appointed officer 671 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,559 Taran Bowen and administration of the O 672 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:50,310 of office presented by Chief Sager. 673 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Mayor and council, thank you for an 674 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,760 opportunity to meet new officer. We had 675 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,200 an officer uh Tom Sanford retire and so 676 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,279 officer Bowen was in the works and it 677 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,360 was quickly noticed that he was the top 678 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,799 candidate and he came and started 679 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,279 working July 1st. He comes with seven 680 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,039 years of experience um a lot of uh uh 681 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:10,960 quality experience working for a larger 682 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,640 agency where he got to experience a lot 683 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,799 of things but not only that he has the 684 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:16,240 right personality for Grantsville and 685 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,600 like I've told you before that's what I 686 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,360 look for. has to be the combo because 687 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,159 our our city is unique. And I I just 688 00:32:22,159 --> 00:32:24,159 invite Taran up here. He's got his 689 00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:26,240 lovely family here and the youngster I 690 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,679 think still passed out on the floor down 691 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:30,399 there. [laughter] So awesome. Um Taran, 692 00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:31,760 just want to introduce yourself. 693 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,440 >> So I'm Taran Bowen. Um I come with seven 694 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,200 years of experience coming from West 695 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,360 Valley City. I've been on patrol the 696 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,840 entire time. So I've pretty much seen 697 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,320 all you can think of. I'm excited to be 698 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,720 here. The community is amazing already. 699 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,720 just the difference between what I've 700 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,559 experienced, what I have. It's it's been 701 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,799 truly honoring to be here and I'm 702 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,440 excited to see what Grantsville City has 703 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,399 and how I can help better the community. 704 00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:00,159 >> Yeah. Without further ado, we'll have 705 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:03,360 the group from the oath of office. If 706 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,960 you raise your right hand and just face 707 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,799 the council of the mayor and repeat 708 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,919 after me. I state your name, do solemnly 709 00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:12,640 swear that I will support, obey, and 710 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,320 defend the Constitution of the United 711 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,120 States. I, Taran Bowen, do solemnly 712 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,039 swear that I will support, obey, and 713 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,640 defend the Constitution of the United 714 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,360 States. 715 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,559 >> and the Constitution of this state 716 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,240 >> and that I will discharge the duties of 717 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,679 my office with fidelity. 718 00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:29,440 >> And I will discharge my duties of my 719 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,799 office with fidelity. 720 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:38,549 >> Thank you, sir. 721 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:55,830 Well, unfortunately, 722 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,600 » all right, there's refreshments and 723 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,440 drinks. Um, pick your family, show them 724 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,480 where you're going to be working. I 725 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,840 think it's important when you tell 726 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840 stories, help them process and 727 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,080 understand. So, thank you guys. 728 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,760 >> Thank you and welcome and thank you to 729 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,839 your family as well. We appreciate your 730 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:11,679 service to our community. Thank you so 731 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:17,990 much. 732 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,359 » I'll try to make it over in a minute. 733 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:34,310 I've got a couple things on the agenda. 734 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560 All right. Agenda item number six, 735 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,480 consideration of resolution 2026-34 736 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,399 approving a memorandum of understanding 737 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:44,720 for automatic license plate recognition 738 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:47,119 data sharing. Uh, presented by Chief 739 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:48,639 Sager. 740 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:51,760 >> Well, first I'll go to Miss Cogle. Um, 741 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,960 give some history on this this process. 742 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,720 We have 10 cameras here in the city. We 743 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:00,800 started planning in 2021 2022. That 744 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,200 planning when Chief Ensand retired 745 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,440 turned over to me for implementation. We 746 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,480 implemented those cameras in 2023 and 747 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,000 they've been active and we've been using 748 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,040 them since without any issues. And and 749 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,040 why we have um why we curve those issues 750 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,200 is training. U annual training. Any 751 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,280 officer that has access is required to 752 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,280 have training. That training requires 753 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,240 verification as mentioned. you. Yes, 754 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,320 there is data enter entered into the 755 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,720 system through multiple agencies um 756 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,240 which is this hot list which we're 757 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:33,920 discussing tonight with department of 758 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,960 public safety um they verify that 759 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,480 information they put it in and when 760 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,560 their hot list stolen vehicles uh 761 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,529 missing endangered people ve 762 00:35:42,529 --> 00:35:44,560 [clears throat] um people that may be in 763 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,720 that vehicle this is all in 764 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,119 investigative information that is put in 765 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:52,079 by an officer or um one of their 766 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:56,960 respective uh um helpers Um but anyway 767 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,720 um and the 63G comment um that is that I 768 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:01,680 thought that was important because 769 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,440 that's the government manage government 770 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,400 uh records man management act and so the 771 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,960 data we collect is only retained in our 772 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,240 system for 30 days and it's 773 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:11,760 automatically purged and we don't have 774 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,400 it and if a citizen comes and requests 775 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,640 that data it's it they're not able to do 776 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,400 it. It's protected information and 777 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,119 that's what that 63g means. We do not 778 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:22,480 release the information. It's not 779 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,040 grandma requestable, which that means, 780 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,040 and if Tyson has anything on that, but 781 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,680 that's how I interpret that. I I don't 782 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,839 know. Did she have any other notes that 783 00:36:31,839 --> 00:36:33,839 I may be able to answer that I may be 784 00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:36,400 missed? 785 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,800 >> Well, I think she said is one in 10 um 786 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,280 are mis provided 787 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,640 >> and then the cost and the cost. Yes. So, 788 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,880 the one in 10 I can't speak for the stat 789 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,040 the stats on that. Um I we have not I I 790 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,079 am unaware of any um 791 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,880 any un any any incident where we've had 792 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,280 the wrong plate or the wrong vehicle. Um 793 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,119 what it does do is give us time like if 794 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,119 we have a hot vehicle coming in we can 795 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:04,960 actually strategically plan to stop that 796 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,119 vehicle in the safest spot and have the 797 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:09,599 resources there. But I I don't know the 798 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:12,320 data on that and I I haven't experienced 799 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,960 that. So I can and the cost yes it's 800 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,280 32,500 for 10 cameras and that's 801 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,760 annually. So that's split up in our 10 areas and they're they are set up in 802 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,240 strategic locations. It's like having uh 803 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,040 an ingress and degress um areas of the 804 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,240 city which allows us to have 10 points 805 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,760 of ingress and egress 806 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,079 in the city that alert officers where 807 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:37,839 officers aren't going to be all the time 808 00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:40,320 for these these vehicles and or these 809 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,760 suspects that are maybe in these 810 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,240 vehicles. And the the cost on that is 811 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,760 just an annual subscription. So 812 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:48,960 >> the AI 813 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,200 >> oh the AI active. So there these cameras 814 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,200 can get very sophisticated. They can zoom in. There's there's no AI 815 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,839 active on this. This is basically a 816 00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:00,079 plate or and then you can actually use 817 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,000 it if you say we we had a case today um 818 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,320 where we had a substantial amount of 819 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,359 fraud um tens of thousands of dollars. 820 00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:10,960 We had a vehicle description and we 821 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,240 identified that vehicle using the 822 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,760 system. So that's we can use we can use 823 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,760 a system like that as well. So um yeah 824 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,560 the AI is there's no facial recognition. 825 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,599 Um it's it's plates. You can upgrade but 826 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,359 >> we don't have the upgrade. 827 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:28,480 >> We have the base 828 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,040 >> through our Yeah, we have the base. 829 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,240 >> So 830 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,359 >> sorry. Go ahead Britney. 831 00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:35,119 >> Sorry. Does the does the reader give any 832 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:36,320 information that a regular officer 833 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,320 couldn't get if he put pulled in the 834 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,280 information in his 835 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,280 >> No, we have access like if a vehicle 836 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,040 passes, we put the plate information in, 837 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,800 we get siegeous access. We actually 838 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,320 probably get more information in the 839 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,640 fog. The only reason it would hit is if 840 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,400 is on a hot list like we're going to and 841 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,800 a hot list means stolen vehicle, wanted 842 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,160 person, missing, endangered, um things 843 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,079 like that. Amber alert, if there's a 844 00:38:58,079 --> 00:38:59,280 plate attached, it comes through, it 845 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,960 hits and lets us know, hey, that that 846 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520 plate's right here right now. um that we 847 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,200 can mobilize resources. 848 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,520 >> What's your protocol then when you get 849 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,480 off then 850 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560 >> you the officer will respond look for 851 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,839 the vehicle verify if it's verified then 852 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:15,760 we make we make the plan. 853 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,400 >> So 854 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,960 >> can you give me just a few examples of 855 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,800 instances where this has been helpful 856 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,359 that things crimes that were solved but 857 00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:27,760 wouldn't have been without the 858 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,440 >> was one in March. 859 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,320 >> Yeah. There's 860 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,880 >> the the triple homicide in southern Utah 861 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,800 was was tracked through 862 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,359 >> well statewide. Yeah. It this can be 863 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:38,960 used for Yeah. 864 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,480 >> I mean that that's the capabilities, 865 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,640 right? We can track. We know this is it 866 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,320 and you're it's entered into a system 867 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,000 for a reason, not just random searching. 868 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,320 Any case, any anytime you go in and you search for something, you have to 869 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,200 have a case associated with that. So you 870 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,280 and we know who surges because it tracks 871 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,800 it and we know the case number and why. 872 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,720 Just like the sensitive information we 873 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,560 deal with every day. We we have access 874 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,480 to criminal histories, driver's 875 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,920 licenses, all your you know if if we 876 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,960 have a reason to we have access to that. 877 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,560 If we don't have a reason, we're not 878 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,280 going to be looking for it. It we have 879 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,280 we don't have time for that. So, 880 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,079 >> so one of her concerns was 881 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:26,960 misidentifying citizens and potential 882 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,839 liability from the police officers for 883 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:32,880 detaining them and putting them in jail. 884 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,240 And I just I I mean talk to us a little 885 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,320 bit about the protocol behind all that 886 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,000 and how you verify and double check and make sure that the individual, you 887 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,720 know, would come up with the plate and who the individual actually is that 888 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,119 there's a protocol in place to to verify 889 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:52,880 that where you're not just going to pull 890 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,320 someone over, handcuff them, and go 891 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,599 throw them in jail, right? 892 00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:59,520 >> No. So it kind of goes back to uh what 893 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,680 Miss Skinner says is we have more 894 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,839 information on another side too. We get 895 00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:06,079 an we get the the information through 896 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,720 the alert through dispatch whatot and 897 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,560 they let the officer know they respond 898 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,880 if they locate they can use their other 899 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,480 tools to help verify or if uh they know 900 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,240 enough information because we've been 901 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,000 working that case they have the 902 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,839 knowledge to verify it without our 903 00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:25,680 system as well. So it's and anytime we 904 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,160 take somebody into custody that we have 905 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,920 to we have to identify if they won't 906 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,319 identify themselves and we have a reason 907 00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:33,920 to book them into jail anyway we're 908 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,160 going to book them in as Jane do John 909 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,200 Doe but that's not not just because of 910 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,200 this hit right we have to have something 911 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,800 else so we do an investigation but we'd 912 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,119 have to have a reasonable suspicion 913 00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:48,800 works into probable cause to make an 914 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,520 arrest to to book into jail and so it 915 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,560 all just goes 916 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,040 up that tier and then um from there. So, 917 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,319 it would be an investigative detention 918 00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:00,640 based off reasonable suspicion and then 919 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,160 if we have probable cause, we can make 920 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,079 an arrest. 921 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,119 >> So, and I want to clarify 922 00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:08,400 we already have the flop cameras. What 923 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,520 we're talking about here is getting 924 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,319 access to DPS's database essentially so 925 00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:13,839 we can share with their database. 926 00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:15,920 >> Yeah, this thisou is just something to 927 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,240 add to our knowledge or information, our 928 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,480 data. So, but I knew that the questions 929 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,240 would come up otherwise and that's why I 930 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:23,680 give a history. We've been using this a 931 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,160 long time um over three years to city um 932 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,599 Tula County I think they switched LPR um 933 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:36,640 systems or manufacturers but uh there 934 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,880 there's a lot through the state. I think 935 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,839 in this related to this with DPS right 936 00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:43,920 now there's 75 agencies that have signed 937 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,079 on and four that are pending. So 938 00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,319 >> could you address for for us, you know, 939 00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:52,960 how does this make Grantsville safer 940 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,920 >> in your in in your professional opinion? 941 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,160 >> Well, flock safety or the and both 942 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,359 theou, right? 943 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:03,119 >> So let's just do both. If we have a a 944 00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:05,119 active criminal investigation, we can 945 00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:09,440 utili utilize technology to um either 946 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,839 make our officers if we have a known 947 00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:13,680 suspect, we can use the technology to 948 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560 make a safer arrest. We can we know when 949 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,680 they're coming. We know where they're 950 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,520 leaving. We don't need to go to their 951 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,200 house, you know, if they have a felony 952 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,400 warrant or something. We know when 953 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,000 they're gone. We can pull we can stop 954 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,319 them on the road and make it safer for 955 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:28,400 our officers. It helps it in the 956 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,880 investigation side specifically with 957 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,280 like drug investigations, um, 958 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,079 trafficking investigations. Um, if we 959 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:37,920 have protective order, domestic violence 960 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,480 where we have a suspect that is not 961 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,720 known and they've fled the scene, we 962 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,640 know what vehicle they are in, we know 963 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,079 they're coming back to Grantsville or 964 00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,400 wherever we put that victim for 965 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,760 protection. Um, so we can help maybe 966 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,920 curb any further violence before they 967 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,800 may get to that person. Um or if someone 968 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,319 says, "Hey, I'm coming to harm you." 969 00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:00,240 Okay, we know they're coming possibly in 970 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:01,359 this vehicle. If they come into our 971 00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:03,359 city, they're they already said they're 972 00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:04,560 going to co-harm this person. We're 973 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,760 going to stop them before they go harm 974 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,200 the person or intervene, right? Um but 975 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,800 that kind of stuff, it gives us the 976 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,680 technology gives us a an advantage in 977 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,880 time and strategic planning and it helps 978 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,960 us make the officer's job safer. 979 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,440 I had a citizen this week say there were 980 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,520 multiple cities getting rid of this 981 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,000 service. Um can you speak to that? Is 982 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,000 that I don't know I don't know the 983 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,240 details or the statistics on that. 984 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,400 >> There has been a movement for LPRs. 985 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,240 There's there's this side of it where 986 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,640 some cities are getting rid of some some 987 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,280 people choose council me council and the 988 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,520 governing board choose to and others are 989 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,000 keeping them. Um [clears throat] it's 990 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,480 kind of depends on what way the city 991 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,160 wants to go with it. It is a very 992 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,200 valuable tool but it can personally I'm 993 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,960 not I'm gonna give you two sides of it 994 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,359 okay personally and this is me I'm I'm 995 00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:01,680 not afraid of it personally as 996 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,000 professionally I am because I have to 997 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,440 safeguard the citizens and the the the 998 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,040 information. So that that is where yeah 999 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,640 I I have to be afraid of that and I have 1000 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,400 to make sure we're doing it right. So I 1001 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,560 have two sides of it right. I see what 1002 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,240 it does. And now personally, I'm like, 1003 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,240 man, I'm not too worried about it. But 1004 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,480 can this go down another road? Yeah. If 1005 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,000 it's not guarded, you don't have people 1006 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,240 saying, "Yeah, this has to be within our 1007 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:29,760 policy and procedures training." Then 1008 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,440 um if if you don't follow those, yeah, 1009 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,160 it could be um used uh poorly. 1010 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,160 But I'd also point out there is our 1011 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,520 policy and procedures online for uh the 1012 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,040 plate readers. If you go under the 1013 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,960 police tab under policy, our whole 1014 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,040 policy manual is there and that is 1015 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,520 specifically pulled out so it's easy to 1016 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,079 access in one click. 1017 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,200 So, so [clears throat] all agencies that 1018 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,960 use this have procedures and trainings 1019 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,960 that they do, but you see stories that 1020 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,920 you know um license plate was red. It 1021 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,599 looked like an A, but it was a B. So, 1022 00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:07,119 their own car got pulled over. The 1023 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,160 person did get detained. So, um, a 1024 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,720 police officer used it to track down an 1025 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,599 ex-wife. Um, they had policies and 1026 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,160 procedures in in place. I'm not so 1027 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,359 worried about our policies and 1028 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:22,720 procedures as much as the data that's 1029 00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:24,960 that Flock is gathering from these 1030 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,200 cameras. And that's why I think cities 1031 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,599 are going away from is the invasion of 1032 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,960 privacy that that Flock uh potentially 1033 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,040 brings. That's that's a lot of concern 1034 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,880 that I have. What what do we have 1035 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,160 with flock that prevents that or do they 1036 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,079 have their own contractor agreement with 1037 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:45,599 us that they can take the information 1038 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,920 and do as they see with it? So our 1039 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,359 automated ALPR uh provider is Flock. 1040 00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:55,520 There are many ALPR providers. So I 1041 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,400 don't want to tie Flock into all the the 1042 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,800 problem. We we that's our provider, but 1043 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,800 there are there are other ones. So, I'll 1044 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,119 be careful on using a specific company 1045 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:09,040 name um for the the issues. But um for 1046 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,880 our officers, just like our criminal 1047 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,480 justice information, our BCI 1048 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,359 information, we we monitor it. We have 1049 00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:18,480 attack which looks at what we run 1050 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,520 monthly and if you can't run if you run 1051 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,400 somebody's wife or you run somebody you 1052 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,400 know and you you don't do it for a law 1053 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,920 enforcement reason is a class B 1054 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,760 misdemeanor and as a pol policy 1055 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,160 violation that we take very seriously. 1056 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,839 It goes in internal investigation and 1057 00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:35,680 then it would also go to post. Same 1058 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,680 here. If you use a law enforcement data 1059 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,680 or law enforcement sensitive information 1060 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,359 to stalk or spy or look on somebody, an 1061 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:44,640 officer does that, it's a policy 1062 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,400 violation and they should be referred to 1063 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,079 post and they will be held accountable 1064 00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:49,920 through policy and administrative 1065 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,640 investigation. 1066 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,599 That's not tolerated. 1067 00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,480 >> But but flop cameras are giving like we said, it's the same information 1068 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,079 they could get. It's they're not giving 1069 00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:00,079 anything more. It's not like, hey, you 1070 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:00,560 know. 1071 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,280 >> Yeah. They're retaining the the data, 1072 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,520 the information for 30 days. It wipes 1073 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,800 and it wipes off. It's not going 1074 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,520 anywhere. It wipes off. It's gone. We 1075 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,760 can't our our policy and we leave it 1076 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,440 that way. 30 days is in there and then 1077 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,760 it's gone. This and that's more 1078 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,400 restrictive than state law. State law is 1079 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,880 I think more like 9 months. We have 30 1080 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,280 days. So if we need it within that 30 1081 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,520 days, if we do have a case like today, 1082 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,240 we extract that data, put it on a 1083 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,480 different device and book it into 1084 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,800 evidence. So that is stored in evidence 1085 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,480 that is that is uh uh even more 1086 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,040 restricted. So 1087 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,200 >> I think did I did I touch on all those 1088 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:41,839 points? 1089 00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:44,160 >> Yeah. 1090 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,760 Chief, my question is kind of along that 1091 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,280 same line as I was trying to understand 1092 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,079 this. It says an agency that chooses to 1093 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,640 limit the information fields to be 1094 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,559 shared with agency parties is 1095 00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,400 responsible for the technical steps 1096 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,800 necessary to ensure that selected 1097 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,800 information is not available for data 1098 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,280 exchange. So it seemed to put it on our 1099 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,760 shoulders 1100 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,119 to limit the information provided. So 1101 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:10,880 are we limiting 1102 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,960 >> no information or what are we doing? 1103 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,440 >> Okay, so this is back to theou at DPS. 1104 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,680 We're we're we we requested access to 1105 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,920 their hot list which they manage, they 1106 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,040 monitor and they they purge, retain or 1107 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,200 purge and keep up to date. We want to 1108 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,640 know if their hot list is coming into 1109 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,880 our city, if they're stolen vehicles, if 1110 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,480 they're missings and stuff like that. 1111 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,200 Now, with that, if they don't want us to 1112 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,520 know because it's a sensitive case, they 1113 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,760 can partition that out just like we can 1114 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,760 partition our police reports from other 1115 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,160 agencies so they no one can look at them 1116 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,359 but us. 1117 00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:46,240 So if we don't want our data shared, 1118 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,920 >> we can partition it out. 1119 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,359 >> We don't have to share it. 1120 00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:51,280 >> So there's different levels of security 1121 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,400 as well. 1122 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,119 >> Okay. 1123 00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:55,040 >> So that's where I think that one's 1124 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,000 going. 1125 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,800 >> Okay. 1126 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,960 >> But according to thisou, are we 1127 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,960 withholding back any of that information 1128 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,720 or are we just letting it all be 1129 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:05,119 available 1130 00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:06,640 >> if we choose? 1131 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,800 >> Yeah, we if we choose to withhold that 1132 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,559 specific piece of information, we can we 1133 00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:12,240 can hold it back. So, 1134 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,680 >> so that would be on a case by case basis 1135 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,520 like you decide to what this is saying 1136 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,640 is you could do that. 1137 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:22,069 >> Yeah. Yeah. 1138 00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:24,160 » I just know for me my client's kids were 1139 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,160 kidnapped and it was a license plate 1140 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,559 reader that caught him and got him they 1141 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,400 found him in Mexico and when the FBI got 1142 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,599 involved that's how they got him was the 1143 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:33,119 license plate reader. Without that the 1144 00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,680 FBI would have known. So I I understand 1145 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,520 everybody's concern, but I also 1146 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,280 understand and and I one thing they 1147 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,720 talked about was, you know, the police 1148 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:42,400 liability, but police have liability 1149 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,920 every day in everything they do, you 1150 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,440 know, like that's that's not anything 1151 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,240 specific to the block camera. They have 1152 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:50,000 post they have, you know, liability to 1153 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,160 post to the, you know, so I'm not I'm 1154 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,839 not saying they're definitely not immune 1155 00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:55,520 from that liability. So I just don't 1156 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,800 think the flop cameras gives them 1157 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,559 anymore. I mean, it sounds like there's 1158 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,640 more because they have verification 1159 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,240 training that they have to do to use 1160 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,160 that flot camera. They can't just rely 1161 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,200 on that flop system generally. 1162 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,920 >> No, you it it's just it's information. 1163 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,200 It's more information. The more 1164 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,559 information we have, the better we do 1165 00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:15,040 our job. But we can't just we we have to 1166 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,079 verify everything. It's it's steps. It's 1167 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:20,000 steps to get to where we're going. And 1168 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,880 this this helps us. Um 1169 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,280 technology helps. So, 1170 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,079 and I if Miss Cargo's still on, I would 1171 00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,240 invite her. she can come and and have a 1172 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:33,760 discussion with me as well at the police 1173 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,990 department. 1174 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,079 So this request is 1175 00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:45,760 basically connecting us for hot list 1176 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,400 information from into other agencies. 1177 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,200 Does that 1178 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,960 >> department of public safety 1179 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,720 >> state agency? 1180 00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:53,760 Yes. 1181 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,520 >> So inter agencies, highway patrol, I80 1182 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,440 tie-ins, all of those. Okay. 1183 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,760 >> Yeah. Well, any anything that goes into 1184 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,359 DPS 1185 00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:07,359 um the that is is able to be put on 1186 00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:09,280 their hot list for their procedures or 1187 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,359 standards, we would have access to 1188 00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:13,440 unless they partition and make a case 1189 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,880 sense. [laughter] 1190 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,200 >> So, Chief, in your professional opinion, 1191 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,359 what 1192 00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:21,119 having that versus not having that, 1193 00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:22,800 what's the difference or why the 1194 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,280 request, you know, why why the request? 1195 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,240 Well, I I see it as I have 10 extra eyes 1196 00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:30,000 all the time with short with the 1197 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,160 staffing issue. I have two officers on 1198 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,160 most of the time, especially at night. 1199 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,960 And if I can cover the perimeter of our 1200 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,119 city and know if somebody's coming in 1201 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:42,000 that may be nefarious to our citizens or 1202 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,720 harm somebody and I can direct resources 1203 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,640 and then and we have a little bit more 1204 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,200 time to react and set up a plan, that's 1205 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,200 worth it to me. especially if we can 1206 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,760 verify and we can we can make um verify 1207 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,240 the information and and make it it safer 1208 00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,960 for not only the suspect but the per uh 1209 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,359 anybody else involved and the officer. 1210 00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:06,079 So, we've used it. We know we've get 1211 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,559 hits out here on Main Street um right 1212 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:11,359 before uh or right after the the meat 1213 00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:13,040 plant there. We know they're coming 1214 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,119 westbound. We'll stage right here. We 1215 00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,440 know the road's wider. If we think 1216 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,040 they're going to run, we'll just we can 1217 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,880 throw spike strips before. So if they 1218 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,160 decide to just run, they're going to run 1219 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,920 them over. We can catch them later. We 1220 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:24,880 don't have to pursue them. We don't 1221 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,319 pursue anyway unless it's a violent 1222 00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:29,119 felony. But we can have our resources 1223 00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,359 staged in the widest point of the city 1224 00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:34,000 or the road and that just things like 1225 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:40,720 that. We use it and it helps. So 1226 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,040 yeah, this thisou we have the flock 1227 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,160 system. Thisou is expanding our data 1228 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,640 sharing or being able to ex to look at 1229 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,000 the data from DPS hot list that they 1230 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,680 manage. 1231 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,280 But we need to verify is what they're 1232 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,000 saying. Verify the information 1233 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,520 and then that's where the liability 1234 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,640 comes on the officer. If they don't 1235 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,079 verify it and they continue down the 1236 00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:05,040 road after they even you got to verify 1237 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,880 and if you make a mistake you got to let 1238 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,160 you go up there and you make a mistake 1239 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,599 and you got to you got to leave. But um 1240 00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:14,480 we haven't had that happen. 1241 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,680 Is there any extra charge for this? 1242 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,720 >> No, it's all the it's all wrapped into 1243 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:28,790 the the system that we already paid for. 1244 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,640 Anybody have any additional questions 1245 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:36,069 for the chief? 1246 00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:41,109 Any 1247 00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:43,040 discussion that anyone would like to 1248 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,119 have with the council? Express your 1249 00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:49,750 opinions. 1250 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,470 » Rat, what do you think? 1251 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,720 » I mean, I I I think I side with the the 1252 00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:58,319 chief with just with utilizing 1253 00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:00,559 technology. I and I understand the fear. 1254 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:03,760 We we got multiple emails and and 1255 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,160 citizens reaching out to us, but the 1256 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,280 fact of the matter is we're already 1257 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,480 utilizing this technology and um this 1258 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,800 just, you know, enhances their ability 1259 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,200 to to get information in real time and 1260 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,200 to make plans. And so I I think it makes 1261 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,480 our city safer. I I I I don't like big 1262 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,119 brother looking on me either, but we 1263 00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:26,079 live in a in a day and age where that 1264 00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:30,319 just is hard to avoid. So, 1265 00:55:30,319 --> 00:55:30,720 >> okay. 1266 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:31,280 >> Anyways, 1267 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,720 >> thank you. Jake, what do you think? 1268 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:35,359 >> I struggle with this one. Uh, honestly, 1269 00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:37,440 um, you know, I anytime we're talking 1270 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,079 about and I know we're we're we're not 1271 00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,400 talking privacy because it's public 1272 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:48,319 places. However, we you know, we we 1273 00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:51,839 co hasn't really taught us anything. It should have taught us something, 1274 00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:54,799 right? So I I really struggle with 1275 00:55:54,799 --> 00:55:57,520 anytime 1276 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,870 we're 1277 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,720 you know entering an area that that 1278 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,559 could be a violation of you know 1279 00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:10,000 citizens abilities to to you know but I 1280 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,920 is I think the biggest part of it to me 1281 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,240 is completely understanding theou and 1282 00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:17,520 how the data is moved. I think I I I'm 1283 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,520 not prepared to vote on this tonight. My 1284 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,000 opinion, um I would like to have, you 1285 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,160 know, some more time to be able to get a 1286 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,520 clear understanding of how that 1287 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,000 information moves and where it moves and 1288 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,280 how we control it and what our 1289 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,720 procedures are to control it. Um 1290 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:41,440 I know this is a product that has 1291 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,599 helped um I mentioned that, you know, 1292 00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:46,240 that triple homicide that happened. um 1293 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:48,079 was a theft of a vehicle and the guy 1294 00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,400 just shot the two hikers for the 1295 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,280 vehicle. They tracked him through this 1296 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,160 license plate recognition program like 1297 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,559 and he was traveling from Utah, I think 1298 00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:02,400 to Colorado or they anyway. So, is there 1299 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,160 a benefit? Yeah. Is there a safety 1300 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,960 benefit? Absolutely. I just anytime we 1301 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,319 hedge into, 1302 00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:12,640 you know, um just that that's important 1303 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,240 for me. I think to be able to vote on 1304 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,160 this would be knowing, you know, how 1305 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,520 that data is moved and and what programs 1306 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,680 we have in place. I I appreciate hearing 1307 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,520 that, you know, we have a 30-day I know 1308 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,319 on theou it says that there's a 24h hour 1309 00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:27,920 period for those hot lists and they're 1310 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,839 dropped. Um 1311 00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:34,880 and and I think that's the 1312 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,040 >> there's an NCIC as well which is a 1313 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,160 national um database where everything is 1314 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,520 verified before it gets put in and then 1315 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,359 that that is part of it as well. 1316 00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:46,960 >> I do think it's important to know what's 1317 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,640 happening around us and being connected 1318 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,319 in that process. um you know if we have 1319 00:57:52,319 --> 00:57:54,640 the pro the you know we already have the 1320 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,680 cameras in place it'd be kind of like we 1321 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,520 we're blind to what's happening around 1322 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,960 us and I don't think that's safe safe 1323 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,240 for our citizens as well either. So but 1324 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,599 I I don't know my my feel is 1325 00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:12,000 this one maybe needs a really good 1326 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,799 review of theou and understanding of at 1327 00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:17,280 least for me. So that's where I'm at. 1328 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,119 >> Thanks Jake. [clears throat] 1329 00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:21,680 Um, I mean, I'm all for giving our 1330 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,559 police officers tools to help their job. 1331 00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:29,680 Um, be more productive and safer. Um, 1332 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,440 and nothing against your chief or your 1333 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,319 department, but I'm 100% against flock 1334 00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:37,200 and what they do. [clears throat] Um, so 1335 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,040 whether we vote for it tonight or in a 1336 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,160 week, I will be a no vote. I would like 1337 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,359 to get rid of the flock cameras 1338 00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:47,119 altogether in our city and everywhere. 1339 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:48,480 my opinion, 1340 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,359 >> Britney. 1341 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:50,880 >> I mean, I've kind of already said mine. 1342 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,119 I mean, I I I think it's a tool that, 1343 00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:54,559 you know, we expect officers to have 1344 00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:57,040 cameras on them when and we request it. 1345 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,319 We want it. We want those tools 1346 00:58:58,319 --> 00:58:59,839 available. These are tools that 1347 00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:01,680 available them to help keep us safe. I 1348 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,280 mean, I think it's especially when 1349 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,640 they're running two at night. So, if one 1350 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,240 guy's tied up, you've got somebody else 1351 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,599 to know somebody else is coming in the 1352 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,160 city. I think it's a tool and it's it's 1353 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,760 the same information they can run on 1354 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,599 their computer. So, it would just be 1355 00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:14,640 they're not getting any more 1356 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,000 information. and they're not seen. 1357 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,200 They're just knowing when somebody 1358 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,079 enters the city. So I I mean I know 1359 00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:21,440 we're not voting on the flot cameras. 1360 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,119 The DPS from my understanding is just 1361 00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:25,520 giving us a bigger database. And so the 1362 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,359 more I mean obviously if somebody's 1363 00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:29,520 coming down I 80, we have highway, we 1364 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,839 have people going to other states. I 1365 00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:35,030 mean yeah. 1366 00:59:35,031 --> 00:59:35,040 [clears throat] 1367 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,559 >> Thanks Britney. Jeff, what are your 1368 00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:37,920 thoughts? 1369 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,559 >> Um 1370 00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:43,440 yeah I hear what everybody's saying and 1371 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,520 feel the same thoughts. I and I I tend 1372 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,559 to agree with what Rat said, I tend to 1373 00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:52,160 support the chief and um 1374 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,920 like we talked about all through 1375 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,000 budgeting how short staffed we are. So 1376 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,200 if it gives us additional 10 eyes and additional 1377 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:06,230 security then I think it's a good thing. 1378 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,200 » Chief, anything else? 1379 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,119 >> Protection of information is a huge 1380 01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:12,480 concern. personal information and every 1381 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,160 level of our lives right now and that's 1382 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,200 a worry. 1383 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,240 >> Yeah, 1384 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,280 >> absolutely. 1385 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,680 >> I think I don't think I answered Derek's 1386 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,400 question. How do we who manages it? Our 1387 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,400 lieutenant our investigation lieutenant 1388 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,960 is the one who audits and reports to me 1389 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,280 if there's and he's also over our invest 1390 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,000 internal investigations and so and he 1391 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,359 provides all the access and the 1392 01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:35,359 trainings and all that. So we do have 1393 01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:39,440 internal controls as well. So, 1394 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,599 and then you mentioned I80. We would 1395 01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:43,680 only get information if they hit on our 1396 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,480 10 cameras coming in, not the state. 1397 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,920 >> So, what information are we getting from 1398 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,480 DPS then? Only if the hot list comes in 1399 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,000 >> hits our cameras, it will say, "Hey, 1400 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,760 Gransville, you have a stolen vehicle 1401 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,520 that's on our hot list." 1402 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,720 >> But that would be on their hot list, 1403 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,160 right? So, we're we're wanting to know 1404 01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,680 their hot Yeah. It's not because we have 1405 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,119 our own hot list. I'm assuming we can 1406 01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:03,119 put on. So, this would be notifying us 1407 01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:05,040 somebody else on DB. Otherwise, without 1408 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,200 this, we wouldn't have access to would 1409 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,480 have less data. 1410 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,720 >> Would it would it hit if somebody from 1411 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,240 >> No, their hot list wouldn't be shared 1412 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,880 with us. 1413 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,040 >> Yeah. So, this is just giving us access 1414 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,920 to their 1415 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,960 >> more visibility. 1416 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,319 >> Right. 1417 01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:21,040 >> So, years ago we and to make it home, we 1418 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,680 had a shooter come here in Grantsville 1419 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,440 to our laundry man. 1420 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:25,839 >> Yeah. 1421 01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:28,319 >> Would that have helped prevented that? 1422 01:01:28,319 --> 01:01:30,480 >> If they had information that they could 1423 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,880 put into the system that was verified 1424 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,640 for their hot list of policies and 1425 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,640 procedures and they put it in there. 1426 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,359 Yes. And if we had one and they knew 1427 01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:40,880 that information and it came in on Main 1428 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,160 Street just like where we had it and it 1429 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,680 says, "Hey, plates here. This guy's 1430 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,480 wanted for homicide." Um, yeah, we would 1431 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:52,549 know 1432 01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:55,119 just like Yeah. Just like your example, 1433 01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:57,599 the triple homicide, that's how it 1434 01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:58,000 worked. 1435 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:06,150 >> The NCIC is would be on this list too if somebody's Yeah. 1436 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,240 And we get that anyway if we run it, you 1437 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,119 know, like you say, 1438 01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:10,720 >> but the license plate will pick that up. 1439 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:17,430 >> Yep. 1440 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:18,880 » All right. I think we've had some really 1441 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,319 good discussion and thank you, Chief, 1442 01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:22,799 for all your information and of course 1443 01:02:22,799 --> 01:02:25,280 for all that your department does for 1444 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,760 our city and keeping us all safe. Is 1445 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,200 there anybody that would like to make a 1446 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,549 motion? 1447 01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:34,240 » I will make a motion. I have vote that 1448 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,880 we approve resolution 2026-34 approving 1449 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,760 a memor memorandum of understanding for 1450 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,599 the automated license plates recognition 1451 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:45,040 data sharing as presented by the chief. 1452 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,640 >> We have a motion by council member 1453 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,079 Skinner. Is there a second? 1454 01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:49,040 >> I'll second. 1455 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,200 >> A second by council member Butler. All 1456 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,240 in favor? 1457 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,000 >> I. 1458 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,280 >> All opposed? 1459 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,720 >> Nay. 1460 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,520 >> We'll do a roll call. Uh council member 1461 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:00,400 Butler. 1462 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,440 >> I abstained. abstained. 1463 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:03,920 >> No. 1464 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,640 >> Nay. 1465 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:05,280 >> Skinner. 1466 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,079 >> I. 1467 01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:06,799 >> Williams. 1468 01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:07,760 >> I. 1469 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,319 >> All right. The motion passes. Thank you. 1470 01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:13,280 >> Uh, Council Thomas, if you want to come 1471 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,680 and we can go over this and help you 1472 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,599 better understand it as well, just so 1473 01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:19,680 it's not sitting out there and, uh, we 1474 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,160 can invite DPS for a phone call as well 1475 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,079 if you'd like. So, thank you. 1476 01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:28,559 >> Yeah. Appreciate your your staff, Chief. 1477 01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:30,240 Thank you. 1478 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,160 >> All right. Agenda item number seven, 1479 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,440 consideration of resolution 2026-56 1480 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,559 approving the Utah ICAC task force me 1481 01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:40,640 memorandum of understanding and 1482 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,400 accepting the fiscal year 2027 ICAC 1483 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,559 grant award. 1484 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:50,640 >> So this is uh IAK Utah. Um this is what 1485 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,440 Detective Ba Basset and Zero kind of 1486 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,880 specialize in the child exploitation and 1487 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,319 um anyway we are affiliates with IAC and 1488 01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:03,359 have been for many years and they 1489 01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:06,960 provide an award um which is monetary is 1490 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,160 $10,000 for their affiliated agencies 1491 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,520 and we use the this uh these funds for 1492 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,119 um equipment software uh lease which is 1493 01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:20,000 a data extraction tool for when we soft 1494 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,400 or cell phones, etc. that we have 1495 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,200 trained detectives to use and that's 1496 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,839 about 8,800 a year. So, it helps pay for 1497 01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:30,319 that and then just some training and 1498 01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:32,319 some equip other equipment after that. 1499 01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:35,760 But we with IAC, we're actually uh 1500 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,760 sending our new detective Bey to their 1501 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,880 boot camp academy. So, he will be able 1502 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,720 to to help with these cases and learn 1503 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,880 how to run them as well. So, 1504 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,359 I think this is most of most of you here 1505 01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:52,559 last year. It's pretty much the same um 1506 01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:58,710 agreement. 1507 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,000 Mayor, I make a motion we approve 1508 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,400 resolution 2026-56 1509 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,599 approving the Utah IAC task force 1510 01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:06,960 memorandum of understanding and 1511 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,760 accepting the fiscal year 2027 IAC grant 1512 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,920 award. We have a motion by council 1513 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,760 member Butler. Is there a second? 1514 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:16,799 >> I'll second the motion. 1515 01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:18,720 >> Second by council member Skinner. All in 1516 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,599 favor? 1517 01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:22,000 >> Thank you. 1518 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,880 >> All right. Thanks, Chief. 1519 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,960 Agenda item number eight, a discussion 1520 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,359 regarding potential grant matching funds 1521 01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:30,720 for the Grantsville Historic 1522 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,799 Preservation Committee. And I believe 1523 01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:34,720 this will be presented by Ala. And I'm 1524 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,000 sorry, I don't know how to say your last 1525 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:36,640 name. 1526 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,079 >> Calc. 1527 01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:38,480 >> That 1528 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,559 >> think of Las 1529 01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:43,800 Sam at the end. Okay. [laughter] 1530 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:44,480 [gasps] 1531 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,880 >> Good evening, Madame Mayor. So nice to 1532 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,520 finally meet you. I only miss on videos 1533 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,960 or photos. and council members. As the 1534 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,520 chair, my name is Ala Kano and as the 1535 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,960 chair of the Grantsville Historic 1536 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,640 Preservation Commission, I am here 1537 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,200 tonight to request your approval to 1538 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,760 apply for a certified local government 1539 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,520 CLG grant that would help us take the 1540 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,760 next important step in preserving and 1541 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,280 promoting Gransville historic character. 1542 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,119 Since its formation, the Historic 1543 01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:16,960 Preservation Commission has worked 1544 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,200 diligently to increase awareness and 1545 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,760 appreciation of our community historic 1546 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,119 resources. Our first major project was 1547 01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:27,119 the creation and publication of this 1548 01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:28,799 booklet and I hope that all of you have 1549 01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:30,480 a copy in your home. If you don't, 1550 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,119 please take one from CIA. 1551 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:36,400 And um we were able to do that by 1552 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,359 applying for a CLG grant which uh we had 1553 01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:41,760 the matching grant the funds that we 1554 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,599 used to restore the donor greet museum. 1555 01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:48,480 So um these booklets highlight many of 1556 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,799 the historic buildings that make our 1557 01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:54,720 city unique. As you can see the cover of 1558 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,440 our that this booklet this is not the 1559 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,240 first time this home has been presented 1560 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,039 or published. This is the residence that 1561 01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:04,640 is on the corner of Hail and Main 1562 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,960 Street. I want to present to you this 1563 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,039 book that was published by the state of 1564 01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:12,000 Utah that also has that home published. 1565 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,640 So, it is pretty unique, pretty awesome, 1566 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,079 and we definitely want to protect it. 1567 01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:20,240 We have also successfully organized 1568 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,280 historic home tours, which I provided a 1569 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,079 flyer. We are seeking for residents that 1570 01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:29,039 own historic homes to sign up for this 1571 01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:31,599 year's tour, which has become very 1572 01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,240 popular community event. This year will 1573 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,880 mark our third annual tour featuring 1574 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,720 additional historic homes and providing 1575 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,799 residents and visitors with a greater 1576 01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:44,000 appreciation of Bransfield Heritage. 1577 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,400 In addition, the commission has assisted 1578 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,960 homeowners on some years to applying for 1579 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,359 this grant, which will support 1580 01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:53,119 preservation and repair projects for 1581 01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:55,680 their historic properties. While these 1582 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,000 efforts have been great and valuable, we 1583 01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,599 believe there is an opportunity to do 1584 01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:02,640 more. At our monthly meeting last week, 1585 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,799 we met with Chris Hansen and Corey 1586 01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:06,880 Jensen from the Utah State Historic 1587 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,280 Preservation Office to discuss the 1588 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,839 potential creation of Grantsville First 1589 01:08:11,839 --> 01:08:14,720 Historic District. 1590 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,520 They advised that the first step is to 1591 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,600 complete a reconense level survey of 1592 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,839 buildings within the proposed district 1593 01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:26,640 boundary. On the screen you see our 1594 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,520 first attempt, our first draft of the 1595 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,640 boundary that we were uh thinking about. 1596 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,880 This survey will update the estate 1597 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,279 historic resource database which have 1598 01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:41,520 not been updated since 1987 1599 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,159 and will help determine whether there is 1600 01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:46,000 sufficient concentration of historic 1601 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,120 resources to establish a viable historic 1602 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,920 district. The estimated cost of the 1603 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,600 survey is approximately $25,000 1604 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,159 based on roughly about 1,200 buildings 1605 01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:01,359 within the proposed study area. We were 1606 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:03,679 informed that this project is allegible 1607 01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:06,239 for funding through the CLG grant 1608 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:10,000 program. The grant will provide up to 1609 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,719 $15,000 1610 01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:15,040 in funding and require a matching 1611 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,120 contribution from the city. this 1612 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,199 application deadline is this month on 1613 01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:21,440 the 31st. We just found that out last 1614 01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:24,640 week. Um, and like I said before, we use 1615 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,839 a grant to do this and we use matching 1616 01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:30,000 froms on the city on a project that the 1617 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,400 city was already doing. So, I am 1618 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,839 bringing this to your attention and 1619 01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:36,960 hoping that maybe we already are doing a 1620 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,359 project on the city. they could qualify 1621 01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:41,520 as the matching grant instead of coming 1622 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,920 with the $15,000 1623 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,400 uh new fund. 1624 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,319 Tonight, we are requesting your approval 1625 01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:50,719 to proceed with submitting the CLG grant 1626 01:09:50,719 --> 01:09:53,120 application for this project. The 1627 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,360 proposed study area generally includes 1628 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,560 property located between Carl Street and 1629 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,800 West Street and between Main Street and 1630 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,840 Clark Street and some um boundary has 1631 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,400 been extended up in the north of the 1632 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,239 image that you see. 1633 01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:10,400 Establishing a historic district could 1634 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,719 provide significant long-term benefits 1635 01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:15,679 to Grantsville. I have provided a copy 1636 01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:18,320 of some common benefits that other 1637 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,560 cities and towns have received by having 1638 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,560 a historic district that you can review 1639 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,239 at your uh time when you can. But I'm 1640 01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:28,159 going to mention that increased heritage 1641 01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:31,679 tourism and visitor spending, enhancing 1642 01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:33,440 marketing in the community branding 1643 01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:36,239 opportunities, as well as eligibility 1644 01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:38,800 for federal historic preservation tax 1645 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,480 credits up to 20% 1646 01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,800 on qualifying re rehabilitation 1647 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,280 projects, providing financial assistant 1648 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,320 to owners of historic properties, 1649 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,120 greater neighborhood pride and community 1650 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,000 engagement. additional investment and 1651 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,600 revitalization of historic areas. 1652 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,239 A historic district is not simply about 1653 01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:05,199 preserving old buildings. It is a 1654 01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:07,679 strategic investment in Grantsville's 1655 01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:10,640 future. One that can protect our 1656 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,600 heritage, it strengthen our community, 1657 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,159 encourages investment, and enhances 1658 01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:19,120 community pride. We believe this grant 1659 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:24,239 opportunity is an important step in evaluating 1660 01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:26,239 whether a historic district is right for 1661 01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:29,360 Grantsville and we respectfully ask for 1662 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,760 your support in allowing us to submit 1663 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,080 this application. Thank you for your 1664 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,159 time and consideration. But I also have 1665 01:11:36,159 --> 01:11:40,560 Bill Habby here to share with you some 1666 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,040 of his experience of why this is a great 1667 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,719 move. 1668 01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:47,440 >> Also known as Bill Cooabe. It's okay. I 1669 01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,000 know you uh get your last name butchered 1670 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,080 just as much as me, so we're we're Yeah, 1671 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,640 we're good. So, if you look on the 1672 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,280 screen here, you'll see homes or dots 1673 01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,159 that are on homes that are already kind 1674 01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:04,400 of identified in the the state historic 1675 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,159 preservation office as uh 1676 01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:10,640 bu uh homes or buildings that are of of 1677 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,280 significant historical interest. Some of 1678 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,120 them are already listed on the National 1679 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,520 Register of Historic Places, but not all 1680 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,719 of them. The purpose for doing a 1681 01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:22,400 historic district is so that we can 1682 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,040 qualify for additional resources for 1683 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,360 homeowners that are in historic 1684 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,280 buildings or homes that uh can 1685 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,280 uh help keep them up there. It's an 1686 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,880 expensive proposition to keep these 1687 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,480 places up. Um you for example switching 1688 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:39,840 out windows. You would think you just 1689 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,920 call Anderson or one of these places and 1690 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,080 have them come bring you windows. It's 1691 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,080 not that at all. I smiling over there. 1692 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,040 He knows it's it's a labor of love and 1693 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,120 it's a constant effort to keep these 1694 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,880 buildings up. So having a little bit of 1695 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,679 additional resources um or through some 1696 01:12:55,679 --> 01:12:58,239 grant money or other things, having a 1697 01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:00,480 district makes that available to you and 1698 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:03,840 for you. So um this is important and and 1699 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,520 again as Ala points out and I should say 1700 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,440 I don't know how many of you know Ala 1701 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:11,520 are familiar with her background she is 1702 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,239 an architect and designer and has an 1703 01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:19,440 immense passion and love for uh 1704 01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:22,400 Grantsville city. Her master's thesis 1705 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,080 when she was getting her degree was 1706 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:28,080 about uh Grantsville and a proposal that 1707 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,400 she had put together for Main Street. 1708 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,400 and it's absolutely wonderful. 1709 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,440 So the the the interest and the passion 1710 01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,360 is there and I hope that that's obvious 1711 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,600 in in what she has said but also in the 1712 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:42,880 efforts that she's making to make 1713 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,520 Grantsville stay unique and interesting. 1714 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,520 The way to do that is through this kind 1715 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,840 of effort and um so 1716 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,960 we know that the the budget is tight. We 1717 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,040 know that uh there are considerations 1718 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,360 that need to be brought to bear, but the 1719 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,040 ask is uh we feel like uh a pretty small 1720 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,719 ask in the grand scheme of things to 1721 01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:07,280 help us get these things going. So 1722 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,840 that's where we're at, I think. Is that 1723 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:10,400 helpful? 1724 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:11,280 >> Yeah. Wonderful. 1725 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,040 >> Anything else you need? 1726 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:13,920 >> Okay. 1727 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,440 >> Thank you. Thank you. 1728 01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:19,600 >> Does anybody have any questions for Ala 1729 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:20,960 or Bill? 1730 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,520 >> Um I I don't have any questions. made 1731 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,880 more of a comment. Um, this I'm actually 1732 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,080 glad this item has been brought uh in 1733 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,800 front of the group. this this year we 1734 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,840 had some brick falling off of one of our 1735 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,920 historic buildings and that individual 1736 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,159 I tried to connect with them to see what 1737 01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:44,880 we could do to to find grants or 1738 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:49,040 whatever to you know preserve it in what 1739 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,880 it should be and and those individuals 1740 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,760 are forced to have to to do that on 1741 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,120 their own accord and so uh this avenue 1742 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,280 is is I think it's a it's a great idea 1743 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,120 great move in the right direction. So, 1744 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:03,920 it's my opinion. 1745 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,360 >> I do have a question. She said there may 1746 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,199 be already a project going that could 1747 01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:08,640 count for these funds. Do we have 1748 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:09,726 anything that would count for 1749 01:15:09,726 --> 01:15:10,719 [clears throat] these or is this would 1750 01:15:10,719 --> 01:15:12,560 this be a separate 15,000 that we need 1751 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,159 to allocate? 1752 01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:15,679 >> Anybody [laughter] 1753 01:15:15,679 --> 01:15:17,360 ask? 1754 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,760 >> No, I don't know. So, I don't think we 1755 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,159 have a specific line item for this kind 1756 01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:26,159 of thing, but uh to Ala's point, I think 1757 01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:27,679 everything that we put into this, 1758 01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:32,480 including the time that the the um 1759 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,280 historic preservation commission spends 1760 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,800 discussing these kinds of things and 1761 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,840 pursuing grants and and um establishing 1762 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,120 the district and all of those things 1763 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,159 that all of that counts towards the 1764 01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:46,640 match. So you put a dollar value to the 1765 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,640 hours that are spent on those things. 1766 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,440 That's part of the match. So it's it's 1767 01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:55,280 not necessarily a strict we want 12 1768 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,000 grand, they're going to ask for 12 grand 1769 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,400 kind of a thing. It's it's more of a 1770 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,719 what are you doing that's helping us out 1771 01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:05,199 in this regard. So there's some offset 1772 01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:06,719 there. It wouldn't necessarily have to 1773 01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:10,400 be the full dollar figure. It's there's 1774 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,360 inind contributions that count as well. 1775 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,640 >> Yeah. So we just have to allocate this. 1776 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,239 >> Correct. This would be a budget 1777 01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:20,800 amendment that would have to come later 1778 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,320 >> when we adopt the final budget and 1779 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,000 include that. 1780 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,600 >> But it doesn't necessarily spend it. 1781 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,040 Right. If we if we can 1782 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,760 >> well if we don't get the grant 1783 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,440 direction is would you like us to apply 1784 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:34,320 for the grant? We be back to have you 1785 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:35,840 make that budget. 1786 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,950 >> Okay. 1787 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,120 » It's just applying. It's not a guarantee 1788 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,199 that we'll get it. We're hoping that we 1789 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:44,080 will get it. 1790 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,000 >> We're probably pretty likely. I felt 1791 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,840 like in our conversations with the shipo 1792 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,480 that I thought 1793 01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:50,800 >> yeah surveys for this kind of effort are 1794 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,840 very um like by the state. It's 1795 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,280 something that they love to 1796 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:56,480 >> these kind of projects are huge. 1797 01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:57,840 >> These are the kind of projects that they 1798 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,239 like to see happening. 1799 01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:02,320 >> So So what qualifies a home or a 1800 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,040 building for for this? So there are 1801 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,120 certain requirements that go year. 1802 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,938 >> If they're about as old as you, Derek, 1803 01:17:08,938 --> 01:17:09,920 [laughter] 1804 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,640 >> then they qualify as No, it's it it is 1805 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,159 interesting. What did you say? 40 years. 1806 01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:16,640 >> No, 50 years. It has to be 50 years. 1807 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,080 >> So I would qualify 1808 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,760 >> and not necessarily. You have to have um 1809 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,040 historic significance. 1810 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,080 >> Oh, shoot. Well, 1811 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,480 >> you have to uh have uh somebody 1812 01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:28,560 important uh from Grantsville to live 1813 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,520 there or build it. Uh it could be uh the 1814 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,000 architecture of it is important for the 1815 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,159 history is significant for the history 1816 01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:38,880 of Grantsville. Maybe it was a style 1817 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,440 that was built in an era and it was 1818 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:44,320 repeated and it shows the heritage of 1819 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,040 Gransville. So things like that or it 1820 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,560 was a unique building but it hosted uh 1821 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,400 important events for the city. 1822 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,760 >> If I could give you a little example, 1823 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,360 there's a historic district and I 1824 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,080 brought this up to the the commission. 1825 01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,600 Um 1826 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,280 there's a historic district in Orum 1827 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:02,560 where I grew up that's called the 1828 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,080 Cristile 1829 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,520 um historic district and there are these 1830 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,920 cute little salt box homes that were 1831 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,560 built in the 40s that were for the 1832 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,560 people who came to work at the steel 1833 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,320 plant at Geneva Steel 1834 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,120 >> and they're all pretty boring and 1835 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,600 they're all not super unique and you 1836 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,360 wouldn't look at them and think anything 1837 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,120 other than well this is just a boring 1838 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,040 old neighborhood but then when you start 1839 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,480 peeling back the layers and you learn 1840 01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:30,560 about the history of these buildings. 1841 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,640 Each individual building may be not 1842 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,679 super cool, but together they represent 1843 01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:38,000 a part of the history of the city of 1844 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,239 Oram, which doesn't have a super great 1845 01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:42,880 history. And it's it's awesome to be 1846 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,400 able to have those touchstones where you 1847 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,480 can go back to and draw from when you 1848 01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:50,320 are making decisions about how do we 1849 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,239 want to proceed into the future? What is 1850 01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:53,600 our city going to look like going 1851 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,440 forward? How do we draw clues 1852 01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:58,560 design-wise from cool old buildings that 1853 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,360 give Grantsville a character that's 1854 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,239 unique and interesting and informative 1855 01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:06,719 for future decisions? 1856 01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:09,199 >> Well, it tells the story of who we are 1857 01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:11,679 >> where we came from. Exactly. So, I just 1858 01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:14,000 had the opportunity to be a few days ago 1859 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,520 in Savannah, Georgia, stood in a in a 1860 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,360 >> in a home that had George Washington's 1861 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,840 where he would 1862 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,159 >> entertain. And I'm like, if Walls could 1863 01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:28,560 tell a story, you know, and so and I'm 1864 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,040 glad that structure is still there in a 1865 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,040 much older part of the country and we 1866 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,960 live in a much newer part of the 1867 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,679 country. So, protecting what we have is 1868 01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:40,320 I think it's important. So, But a lot of 1869 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,159 these homes in this area represent the 1870 01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:46,800 early the earlier days in Grantsville. 1871 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:47,280 >> Yeah. 1872 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,760 >> And this is the area that, you know, the 1873 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,280 commission designated as the the most 1874 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,320 likely area to to have this this 1875 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,320 historic district. And we've been 1876 01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,840 working on this since the first part of 1877 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,760 the year when our first meeting in 1878 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,239 January. And we feel pretty strongly 1879 01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:06,800 that, you know, this is um something 1880 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,880 that that that we'd like to support and 1881 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,000 do. So, 1882 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,800 >> if I may add, you all know Hilda 1883 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,840 Anderson Ericson and how important she 1884 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,800 has been for our time. We have her 1885 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,040 monument right up front. Do you know 1886 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,520 where her house is? 1887 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,719 And is it protected? 1888 01:20:26,719 --> 01:20:29,679 She's important to us. 1889 01:20:29,679 --> 01:20:32,320 We should care for where she lived and 1890 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,440 be a place of remembrance. 1891 01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:37,440 I want to clarify one point too as well 1892 01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:40,000 that being in a historic district does 1893 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,199 not mean that you can't tear down the 1894 01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:44,640 home if it's 1895 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,600 >> problematic. You can't do changes. You 1896 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,400 can't all of these things. Um this just 1897 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,159 gives you an extra layer of federal 1898 01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:54,560 recognition and protection and again 1899 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,960 qualifies you for those grants. So this 1900 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:03,350 is a worthwhile effort. 1901 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,430 Basically, 1902 01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:09,120 » I think it's great. I when I did the 1903 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,360 tour on Clark Farm, I learned I mean, I 1904 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,040 didn't know half about Grandville that I 1905 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,719 was very informative. It's nice to have 1906 01:21:14,719 --> 01:21:16,880 people that know and remember and can 1907 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:17,920 especially since we're having new 1908 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,159 developments and it's nice to keep this 1909 01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:21,120 original. 1910 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,320 >> Exactly. 1911 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,239 >> And how many of us know where our 1912 01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:27,600 downtown was and how many downtowns we 1913 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,480 had locations? It was not in the same 1914 01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:32,560 place. 1915 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,840 It will be great to preserve that and 1916 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:41,189 educate a community. 1917 01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:44,640 » Yeah, this has my support. So, what 1918 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,080 whatever we're looking for a grant 1919 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,199 standing, I'll I'll support this 1920 01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:49,520 discussion. 1921 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,239 >> So, yeah, this this is a discussion. 1922 01:21:52,239 --> 01:21:55,679 >> However, I guess do we just want to give 1923 01:21:55,679 --> 01:21:57,679 them direction to go and apply for the 1924 01:21:57,679 --> 01:21:59,120 grant and then 1925 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,920 >> reevaluate? we evaluate after that is 1926 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,920 awarded 1927 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,760 >> because even if they apply for the grant 1928 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,120 and then uh the council says I'm sorry 1929 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,920 we just can't fund this then 1930 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,840 >> then we don't get the grant 1931 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,840 >> and this is a yearly grant that we can 1932 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,360 apply for every year. 1933 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,199 >> So if we find ourselves 1934 01:22:19,199 --> 01:22:20,960 >> that we can't this year then we can 1935 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,560 again do it again next year. 1936 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,520 >> Next year. That's right. 1937 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,520 >> But again the sooner the better so we 1938 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:26,080 can 1939 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,120 >> July 31st exactly is the date. So I 1940 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,560 think the direction that the council is 1941 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,800 giving you is to proceed with the grant 1942 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,679 application and then we will make 1943 01:22:35,679 --> 01:22:38,159 decisions when that application has been 1944 01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:38,719 submitted. 1945 01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:39,120 >> Thank you. 1946 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,239 >> So seem acceptable to everyone. Okay. 1947 01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:50,629 >> Thank you. 1948 01:22:50,639 --> 01:22:52,480 » Okay. Agenda item number nine. 1949 01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,920 Consideration of resolution 2026-53 1950 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,239 approving a pilot service agreement with 1951 01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:01,520 Kids Can for the Kids Can Yellow Can 1952 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,840 program and that is going to be 1953 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:04,560 presented by 1954 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,960 >> Just interject just really quickly. What 1955 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:08,080 is the beeping sound? 1956 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,679 >> Oh, that is the fire alarm for the 1957 01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:11,679 library. It's going off. We're trying to 1958 01:23:11,679 --> 01:23:12,800 figure out why. 1959 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:13,920 >> Yeah, it's pretty loud. 1960 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,600 >> Yeah, we're trying to figure out what's 1961 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,520 setting it off. There is not a fire, so 1962 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:18,480 there's no alarm there. 1963 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:20,800 >> I did see the fire. 1964 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,800 I heard the truck come down. 1965 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:23,760 is turned back on. 1966 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,560 >> So, they're trying to turn it off. 1967 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,000 >> It's a lot of louder probably outside 1968 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,679 the building. 1969 01:23:29,679 --> 01:23:31,280 >> All right. So, I just do apologize. 1970 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,320 >> Okay. 1971 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,080 Jessica, with that wonderful 1972 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,159 introduction, go ahead, please. 1973 01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:38,159 >> Well, it's nice to be here tonight and 1974 01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:41,199 thanks for having us. So, um my name's 1975 01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:43,360 Jessica White and I'm just here to kind 1976 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,560 of a quick recap on our program. We're 1977 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,400 um working on starting a program called 1978 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,239 Kids Can that will benefit children in 1979 01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:53,040 the community. We were seeking a pilot 1980 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,000 um community and we know the city of 1981 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,560 Grantsville is very supportive in making 1982 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,000 the city better and it's a great 1983 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,639 community. So, we asked the previous 1984 01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:04,400 mayor if he'd be interested in this 1985 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,639 program. Right now, I serve as the 1986 01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:08,239 president of a nonprofit in the Salt 1987 01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:10,159 Lake area called the Ward Refugee 1988 01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:12,480 Foundation. And I know how hard it is to 1989 01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:15,440 start a nonprofit in communities, but I 1990 01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:17,120 have seen a difference that it makes 1991 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:21,120 when cities and businesses and other are 1992 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,360 involved in helping the life of children 1993 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,679 and families. As I was talking to my 1994 01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:27,520 husband and my family, we felt like this 1995 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,040 was something that Tilla County was 1996 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,520 missing. Um we don't have a lot of these 1997 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,360 programs that um will help children in 1998 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,280 whether it's be in school, community, or 1999 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,600 outreach programs. We will focus on 2000 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,440 children that are underserved or have 2001 01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,600 experienced some type of trauma. We are 2002 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,520 going to be able to help them feel loved 2003 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,360 and seen through this program. We are 2004 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,320 looking to help establish to help 2005 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,320 established youth programs as well as 2006 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,719 individuals. Tonight we are meeting to 2007 01:24:54,719 --> 01:24:56,400 ask for the pilot service agreement to 2008 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,840 be approved and we look forward to 2009 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,440 serving and helping the community. 2010 01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:04,080 >> So here we are. 2011 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,080 >> Does anybody have any questions for 2012 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,239 Jessica about the kids? can. 2013 01:25:10,239 --> 01:25:13,280 >> Yes. [laughter] What What is it? It's a 2014 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,600 >> So, it's a um yellow can garbage can 2015 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,639 service and they have it's a year annual 2016 01:25:18,639 --> 01:25:21,920 that they can pay $120 a year or $10 a 2017 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,000 month that can be broken up into $10 a 2018 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,600 month and um it's just an idea that we 2019 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,120 it's kind of a program that um the 2020 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,480 biggest thing is people kind of forget 2021 01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:33,840 about you. So, it's natural 2022 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,800 advertisement through the yellow can. So 2023 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,400 people see what we are and then they 2024 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,800 donate to that and the money we we will 2025 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,120 buy the cans and so it's no cost to the 2026 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,800 city but the money that comes from that 2027 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,480 we will put back into the community to 2028 01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:51,840 serve um children or kids in the area. 2029 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,600 >> So define that a little more Jessica 2030 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,440 because it says that 2031 01:25:55,440 --> 01:25:58,560 >> so it's $120 completely voluntary right? 2032 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,719 >> Yep. Completely voluntary. So yeah so 2033 01:26:00,719 --> 01:26:04,159 we'll be marketing it. Yeah. It says 1% 2034 01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:08,719 comes back to the area and 15% 2035 01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:11,840 um comes to for recreational 2036 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,360 improvements or maintenance is 2037 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:14,800 determined by the city. 2038 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:15,920 >> Yeah. So um 2039 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,520 >> talk to me about the rest of the 2040 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:18,239 percentage 2041 01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:20,560 >> and I apologize my husband ended up 2042 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,760 having an emergency surgery. So the 1% I 2043 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,239 think if I remember right you guys can 2044 01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:28,560 help with this. I think was the cost. If 2045 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,159 it cost the city anything then we'll 2046 01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:34,000 help um pay for some of that. the 15%. I 2047 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,320 know he's talked to Mayor Hammond um 2048 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,719 about some of the parks and things that 2049 01:26:38,719 --> 01:26:40,880 you wanted to see to help the children 2050 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,639 in the area, but we will be keeping 2051 01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:45,600 other I mean it's just not 15%. We'll 2052 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,600 definitely be seeking out we've talked 2053 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,600 to the education foundation and several 2054 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,840 other community support and we're hoping 2055 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,199 to work with them and um get money back 2056 01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:57,920 into the community to help um children 2057 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,880 throughout the Groundsville area. 2058 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,159 Are you selecting specific kids to help 2059 01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:06,480 or general type thing? 2060 01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:08,480 >> Yeah, so it just depends. Like in Salt 2061 01:27:08,480 --> 01:27:10,960 Lake, I work with city council members 2062 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,440 and mayors. I work with counselors in 2063 01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:15,199 the school districts. I work with 2064 01:27:15,199 --> 01:27:17,679 education foundations. I work with a big 2065 01:27:17,679 --> 01:27:19,679 soccer program that gives away like five 2066 01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:22,080 grants. So kind of we'll mimic the same 2067 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,840 thing just whatever's in the community 2068 01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,080 that we feel. It may even be arts and 2069 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,400 music for someone um a child that's gone 2070 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:29,920 through some trauma that will support a 2071 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,679 year of arts or music for them as a 2072 01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:34,159 scholarship. There's many things that we 2073 01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:36,719 have done and we plan on kind of 2074 01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:38,320 mimicking that same thing in this 2075 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,480 community. 2076 01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:42,159 And so it'll be a lot of community 2077 01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:44,800 outreach, getting to know what's needed, 2078 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,120 meeting with, you know, even principles 2079 01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,800 at times. I've met with principles that 2080 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,480 will go through sometimes they asked me 2081 01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:52,159 to help like five families for Christmas 2082 01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:54,239 or something like that or five children, 2083 01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:56,639 you know, that we can um one year we 2084 01:27:56,639 --> 01:28:00,000 went in and there was 20 I think 20 25 2085 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,320 children that needed shoes and so we 2086 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,639 went in and provided shoes for them. So 2087 01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:06,719 it it's a lot of different things 2088 01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:08,560 sometimes. Um we have talked to the 2089 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,719 Children's Justice Center. Um, so 2090 01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:12,239 there's a lot of needs in the community 2091 01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:15,360 and we're just here to try to market 2092 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,600 them and hopefully bring that um people 2093 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,360 will support it and bring that back so 2094 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:25,910 that we can help with youth programs. 2095 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,639 » And how how will somebody enroll? Let's 2096 01:28:28,639 --> 01:28:30,800 say I want a yellow can. 2097 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,520 >> What's my step to do that? So, we just 2098 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,600 um we're working on all the final 2099 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,280 details now, but we'll have a website 2100 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,960 and an enrollment program that they'll 2101 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,400 just fill out their forms and their 2102 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,800 payment and we'll take care of that side 2103 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,679 of things so it's not any burden on the 2104 01:28:45,679 --> 01:28:48,560 cities. And um then we'll take care of 2105 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,480 the cancellation and all of that, but we 2106 01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:52,080 need to work with the city just to make 2107 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,679 sure that the cans are getting out and 2108 01:28:53,679 --> 01:28:56,000 that we will pick them up if they cancel 2109 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,000 their program that or their can. And 2110 01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,440 >> that's administrative fee. 2111 01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:05,830 >> Yeah. 2112 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,199 The administrative fee is taken out of 2113 01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:08,159 that 1%. Is that what 2114 01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:09,760 >> that's the 1% is administrative fee and 2115 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:14,239 then we're also getting the 15% that that they out of the whole program 2116 01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:17,120 for the city we'll get 15% of that to go 2117 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,440 towards parks or whatever recreation the 2118 01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:22,080 city council decides. And then anything 2119 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,679 I mean if they have another cause that 2120 01:29:23,679 --> 01:29:24,639 they want to 2121 01:29:24,639 --> 01:29:26,239 >> that we want to we can go to them for 2122 01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:28,239 any other extra beyond that 2123 01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:30,400 >> like we'd love to work with your count 2124 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,239 like a council member if they have ideas 2125 01:29:32,239 --> 01:29:33,600 or you guys see something in the 2126 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,840 community. We'd love that. We hope it's 2127 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,360 supported and we'll that's why it's a 2128 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,360 pilot program. We're going to try and 2129 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,679 see if we can um get something going so 2130 01:29:41,679 --> 01:29:44,480 it can be a positive recognition in the 2131 01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:45,280 community. 2132 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,360 >> What other cities are you working with? 2133 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,679 Um, we have talked to several cities, 2134 01:29:49,679 --> 01:29:52,880 but we really needed just to I mean, 2135 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,280 I've talked to Draper, Riverton, we've 2136 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,280 talked to West Valley, South Salt Lake 2137 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,360 because I work with that mayor a lot. We 2138 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,080 um talked to Twilla City, but we really 2139 01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,960 just we need to make sure we have a 2140 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,360 pilot program so we're ready to before 2141 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,520 we go and hopefully grow bigger. So, 2142 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,400 that's kind of we've worked with um back 2143 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,040 east. They do this a lot for um breast 2144 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,960 cancer and we've talked to cities back 2145 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,920 there that do it and um how they pilot 2146 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:23,760 that or how they started that program 2147 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,000 and so we have talked to other cities 2148 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,239 that have had this program but we don't 2149 01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:32,080 have any currently in Utah that do. 2150 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,600 >> So this is build separately 2151 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,480 >> from the city like this isn't going to 2152 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:39,840 come through on my city bill? 2153 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:40,400 >> Nope. 2154 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:41,760 >> It'll be totally separate. 2155 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,159 >> Totally separate. Yeah. What do we do 2156 01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:45,600 with the old garbage can? We have, the 2157 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:46,880 old gray one. 2158 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,600 >> Um, so we talked to Ace about that and 2159 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,159 they said, I mean, their idea was 2160 01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:54,880 eventually they get broken and, um, it 2161 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,400 saves you guys money because you don't 2162 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,080 have to keep putting money into buying 2163 01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,679 new garbage cans if people are using 2164 01:30:59,679 --> 01:31:02,880 ours. But, um, they will recycle them. 2165 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,880 They usually, they said they usually get 2166 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,520 phone I mean the city gets phone calls, 2167 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:08,560 but they come and pick them up if 2168 01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,159 there's broken lids or broken wheels. 2169 01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:11,920 And sometimes the city repairs them. 2170 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,840 Sometimes they go into retirement and 2171 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,320 then they replace those, but then most 2172 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,400 of the times the city pays for those new 2173 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:22,310 cans. 2174 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,800 So, I mean, I guess they would just be 2175 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,960 stored here till the next person needs 2176 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,239 them. And I'm 2177 01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:30,400 >> with the growth, I'm sure you'll get new 2178 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:31,360 people using them. But 2179 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,040 >> if I get two yellow cans, what do I do 2180 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:33,520 with my 2181 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,199 >> Yeah, they'll come. Yeah. And that was 2182 01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:36,800 part of it is the city would come pick 2183 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:37,280 them. 2184 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:38,880 >> Then we'll give it to a new a new new 2185 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,960 homeowner that comes in and obviously 2186 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:41,920 paint it first 2187 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,840 >> and then if they don't want the yellow 2188 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,360 can or pay the extra for it. 2189 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:45,760 >> Yeah. 2190 01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,760 >> But it helps if everyone in the city 2191 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,280 does decide to do this then the city 2192 01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,440 won't have to buy those those cans. And 2193 01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:54,400 I think their last can purchase was like 2194 01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:55,920 $90,000. 2195 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,040 >> Yeah. And Yeah. Um the cans are about an 2196 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,880 they hope to get seven to eight years 2197 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:02,800 but that could with the wind storms and 2198 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,400 things lower the thing but 2199 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:05,520 >> cost 2200 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:06,480 >> 65 2201 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:08,480 >> $65. 2202 01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:12,000 So your initial investment is 50% of 2203 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:12,400 what 2204 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,880 >> Yeah. So we yeah we've already Yeah. 2205 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,840 We've already are working on getting all 2206 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,679 that. So it is a big investment for us 2207 01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:22,159 to put into it. That's our commitment is 2208 01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:24,159 we are committed to try to make this 2209 01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:25,920 work and 2210 01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,920 help the community is really what we're 2211 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,400 trying to do. It's just a nonprofit to 2212 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,239 >> Your husband came and he he presented to 2213 01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:34,000 us last year. I believe it was last 2214 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:34,320 year. 2215 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:35,679 >> Yep. It's been a while. We've been 2216 01:32:35,679 --> 01:32:39,600 working on this. So 2217 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,920 >> my my only other thought was and this is 2218 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,320 just clearly for transparency, but even 2219 01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,639 though it's a nonprofit, 2220 01:32:46,639 --> 01:32:48,480 I'm sure you guys are allowed to keep a 2221 01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:51,679 certain percentage to run the program. 2222 01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:53,679 >> I wish that was disclosed, didn't you? 2223 01:32:53,679 --> 01:32:56,080 >> Yep. And so um I've studied a lot of 2224 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,159 nonprofits because I agree with that. 2225 01:32:58,159 --> 01:33:00,239 And it's really isn't disclosed. is by 2226 01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:04,080 state statute and only 30% have needs to 2227 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,280 go to the nonprofit and we are a big 2228 01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,560 believer in that you need to have we're 2229 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,520 hoping 70%. But it just depends if we 2230 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,040 can find like right now we're working 2231 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,520 with someone to hold our cans for um and 2232 01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,679 that would be their donation. But if we 2233 01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:21,600 have to pay rent, that is a cost if we 2234 01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,120 have to. I mean, we will have to have a 2235 01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,880 few workers to maintain the cans and if 2236 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,800 we need help with anything and marketing 2237 01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,120 them. But we are hoping that the 2238 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,840 majority of that will stay cuz I agree 2239 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,840 with you. Like I'm the president of our 2240 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,920 foundation and I don't take any money. 2241 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,679 So, I work full-time for free and um for 2242 01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:45,040 the Ward Foundation right now and um but 2243 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:46,639 there's several other foundations that 2244 01:33:46,639 --> 01:33:48,320 they are paying their directors or 2245 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,960 presidents 100,000 and we just we don't 2246 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,320 believe in that. We believe that it 2247 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,320 needs to come right back to what we 2248 01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,040 started it for. So, I mean, I can't give 2249 01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,880 you a figure because we're not sure. 2250 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,120 Like I said, we're just getting this 2251 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,120 started. But our goal is that the 2252 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,880 majority will stay within helping and 2253 01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,080 not 2254 01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,960 serving someone else on our board. So, 2255 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,719 >> and this is just a one-year agreement 2256 01:34:12,719 --> 01:34:14,159 and then we can come back and revisit 2257 01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:16,000 see how it did like it at after that 2258 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:16,320 time. 2259 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,800 >> I thought this doesn't say five in here. 2260 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:20,400 >> It does say five at the beginning 2261 01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,400 because we needed some time for the 2262 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:23,600 Yeah, 2263 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,840 >> but we can I'm happy to revisit anytime 2264 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,040 we need to. 2265 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:30,639 >> But this is an agreement with the 2266 01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:33,040 citizens. It's just a yearly. 2267 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,679 >> Yeah, it's just a yearly and then they 2268 01:34:35,679 --> 01:34:37,840 can either cancel at that time or it's 2269 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,760 just automatically renewed kind of like 2270 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:44,639 any other unless they choose to cancel. 2271 01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:46,560 I have just kind of an administrative 2272 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,800 type question as far as how our garbage 2273 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,880 is dumped now. So, I have two of the 2274 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,560 black or gray cans, whatever you want to 2275 01:34:54,560 --> 01:35:00,880 call that. And so, it's build with my city utility bill. Mhm. 2276 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,120 >> So, let's say like Brett said, I now 2277 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,840 have two yellow cans. 2278 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,199 How does that affect my city billing? 2279 01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:11,360 Can somebody from the city explain that 2280 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:12,639 to me? 2281 01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:14,480 >> Doesn't change a thing. You still pay 2282 01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:16,719 for the garbage where just you just have 2283 01:35:16,719 --> 01:35:17,360 the yellow. 2284 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,679 >> You still pay for ace to dump your 2285 01:35:19,679 --> 01:35:22,480 >> If I have two cans in my front yard, I'm 2286 01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:24,159 still going to have be charged for two 2287 01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:25,360 cans, but they're just going to be 2288 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:25,679 yellow. 2289 01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:28,000 >> The other's a donation. So yeah, and we 2290 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,040 feel like the $12 a month, that's like 2291 01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,679 giving up a coffee or a meal out. It's 2292 01:35:33,679 --> 01:35:36,639 pretty reasonable for people. So um 2293 01:35:36,639 --> 01:35:38,080 that's what we're hoping is they'll pay 2294 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,120 that extra to help like community 2295 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,560 benefit the community and the children 2296 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,000 in the community. And that's something 2297 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,239 we will be marketing, but yeah, it will 2298 01:35:46,239 --> 01:35:48,239 not affect 2299 01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:48,719 >> so 2300 01:35:48,719 --> 01:35:50,800 >> your bill. I mean, it's a donation 2301 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,040 >> the donation pretty much. Yes. pickup is 2302 01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,719 all in favor and 2303 01:35:54,719 --> 01:35:56,719 >> yeah, we've met with them two or three 2304 01:35:56,719 --> 01:35:58,239 times and 2305 01:35:58,239 --> 01:35:59,679 >> they just said it's really up to the 2306 01:35:59,679 --> 01:36:01,120 cities. We contract through them. It 2307 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:02,560 will not interrupt our service. We'll 2308 01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,199 still do the same thing and so we'll 2309 01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:07,440 pick up the yellow cam. But we went to 2310 01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:11,040 lunch with um someone from I mean we've 2311 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,560 been meeting with a lot of them but just 2312 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,280 like two weeks ago and she just said it 2313 01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,199 won't interrupt what we do. 2314 01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:22,470 >> Okay. So 2315 01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:23,440 » I like it 2316 01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:26,000 >> since it's tech technically a donation. 2317 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,080 Like we said, do at the end of the year 2318 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,480 the citizens that apply for this get a 2319 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,760 tax write off sometime? 2320 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,679 >> Yeah. So we'll mail out a Yeah, we'll 2321 01:36:33,679 --> 01:36:35,840 mail out a 2322 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,800 oh form for a t uh you know for a 2323 01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,080 donation. I'm trying to think of the 2324 01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:41,760 form name, but yes, we will mail that 2325 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,560 out for a tax write off to everyone that 2326 01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,840 has signed up for the program. 2327 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,280 I like it because it's a donation. 2328 01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,800 People can choose to do it but not to do 2329 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:51,840 it. And if they don't want to donate, 2330 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:52,880 they don't have to donate. But I think 2331 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:54,880 it's a way that we can help nonprofits. 2332 01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:56,320 I've actually worked with the word 2333 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:57,440 refugee foundation. I have a friend 2334 01:36:57,440 --> 01:36:59,040 that's the board as well. So they've 2335 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:00,880 done a lot of great things for people. 2336 01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,360 >> Yeah. Yep. It's been very successful. So 2337 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,679 >> yeah, I mean I agree like where's the 2338 01:37:05,679 --> 01:37:08,960 money going? But I feel like it's keeps 2339 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:10,480 coming back to our community. still 2340 01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,920 doing things in the community. I think 2341 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,639 >> Jessica, could there be maybe in a year 2342 01:37:16,639 --> 01:37:18,800 if if this is approved, could you come 2343 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,199 in and do a report maybe even in six 2344 01:37:21,199 --> 01:37:22,960 months as to where the funding is going 2345 01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,520 and how it's helping our community and 2346 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,719 just kind of give us an update. 2347 01:37:26,719 --> 01:37:28,719 >> Yeah, we want to be transparent and we 2348 01:37:28,719 --> 01:37:30,320 need to be transparent for if we get 2349 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,320 grants or anything like that. And so 2350 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,840 we'd love to be as transparent as 2351 01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,239 possible. we can say where the money was 2352 01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:38,000 allocated, who we helped, who we're 2353 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,560 working with or community partners. So, 2354 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,040 we would love to be as transparent as 2355 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,440 possible with all of that. 2356 01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:47,440 >> I just I would love to like help too if 2357 01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:49,280 just to say I think it's great. I think 2358 01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:50,560 it's good to give back community. So, 2359 01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:51,840 I'd be interested in 2360 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:52,960 >> Yeah, I think it's something we're 2361 01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,040 missing out here. I see a lot of 2362 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:58,239 resources and a lot of programs offered 2363 01:37:58,239 --> 01:38:00,080 in Salt Lake and I feel bad that we 2364 01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,760 don't have that out here that we can 2365 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:03,520 give back to those that need it most 2366 01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,239 because until you meet those basic needs 2367 01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:09,360 of children then I mean education and 2368 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:14,629 home life and everything's affected. So 2369 01:38:14,639 --> 01:38:15,760 » Jessica, do you live here in 2370 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:16,400 Grantsville? 2371 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,159 >> I live in Stanbury. 2372 01:38:18,159 --> 01:38:20,080 >> Okay. But just yeah just mentioned out 2373 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:20,719 here. So I 2374 01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:21,520 >> Yeah. Oh, 2375 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,760 >> the the county. We're hoping to get it 2376 01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,080 countywide is our goal. 2377 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:34,310 >> Yeah. 2378 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,119 » Anybody have any thoughts or items of 2379 01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:39,119 discussion they want to bring up to the 2380 01:38:39,119 --> 01:38:41,040 council before we have a motion? 2381 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,400 >> My assume was the five unit 2382 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,000 pilot program. 2383 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,400 I can get that, too. 2384 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,560 >> Well, I just I I was thinking the same 2385 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,159 thing. I mean, we got a lot of attorneys 2386 01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:54,800 in the room here and uh 2387 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,800 >> almost almost on my hand. I can count on 2388 01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,520 all of [laughter] them. But, uh, I I if 2389 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,280 we could add some sort of section in 2390 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:05,040 here that just states or or revise this, 2391 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,920 um, term and termination that that, you 2392 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,840 know, we we reserve the right um, in a 2393 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,920 year to be able to say, well, this 2394 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,159 probably isn't working out or, you know, 2395 01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:18,639 or just be able to renew it. I I don't 2396 01:39:18,639 --> 01:39:20,560 know that's something we can do. But, I 2397 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,719 mean, I understand that this is there. 2398 01:39:22,719 --> 01:39:24,400 >> Yeah. I think from our standpoint is 2399 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,440 we're buying it cost us a lot up front 2400 01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:29,199 to buy the cans and we're buying a lot 2401 01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:31,600 of cans and marketing and it takes a 2402 01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,840 long time. It's taken me four years to 2403 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,840 get the award foundation to almost 2404 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,080 double in size. So, it's taken us a long 2405 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,840 time and I just think a year would be 2406 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,400 very difficult to have this where we 2407 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,520 want it and um there will be hiccups the 2408 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:46,880 first year a little bit and that's why 2409 01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,119 we're asking for your support and help 2410 01:39:49,119 --> 01:39:51,119 but I think it would be very difficult 2411 01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:53,760 to make that kind of a donation on our 2412 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,560 part just to have it taken away after a 2413 01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,320 year. I understand if we've done 2414 01:39:58,320 --> 01:39:59,840 something that you don't like and I 2415 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:01,679 think there's clauses in that there for 2416 01:40:01,679 --> 01:40:04,080 that but um we're investing a lot 2417 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,199 ourselves too and so for a year to 2418 01:40:07,199 --> 01:40:10,320 market it and get it going. I mean if 2419 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,080 anyone's kind of worked in a business or 2420 01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:13,920 startup it's it's very difficult. the 2421 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,360 lowest you think okay with right now 2422 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,000 >> the lowest number I would like to see at 2423 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:24,320 least three but I would be okay meeting 2424 01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,679 each year and going through that but I 2425 01:40:27,679 --> 01:40:28,560 don't know 2426 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,679 >> well I mean these terminations for cause 2427 01:40:31,679 --> 01:40:33,760 material breaches of this agreement and 2428 01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,600 fails to cure within 30 days of written 2429 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,920 notice becomes insolvent or ceases 2430 01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,320 operation or engages in conduct that 2431 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:43,040 poses a risk to public health safety or 2432 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,520 city's reputation. That last one's 2433 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,760 pretty broad broad, but anyways, 2434 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,840 >> I just What is our risk though? I mean, 2435 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:50,639 that's kind of 2436 01:40:50,639 --> 01:40:52,080 >> I mean, it's a volunteer. 2437 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:53,440 >> Well, and that's the thing is if it 2438 01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:54,400 flops. 2439 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:55,920 >> Yeah. It's kind of our money and our 2440 01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:56,560 time. Yeah. 2441 01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,800 >> I don't I don't see a really a liability 2442 01:40:58,800 --> 01:40:59,920 on the city. Other than we're saying, 2443 01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:01,679 "Yeah, you could do this." Unless there 2444 01:41:01,679 --> 01:41:03,840 it does cause problems, which obviously 2445 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:04,960 we would have a require. 2446 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,600 >> Here's a potential issue. Okay. So, I 2447 01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,320 get two yellow cans and I give up my two 2448 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,199 gray cans and they go away. And let's 2449 01:41:13,199 --> 01:41:16,639 say that this becomes insolvent and I 2450 01:41:16,639 --> 01:41:18,400 want my gray cans back. Well, guess 2451 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,040 what? I got to buy two new gray cans, 2452 01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:22,400 right, Christie? 2453 01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,880 >> Well, she left. That's 2454 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,960 >> Yeah, that's I mean I I would I would 2455 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:31,040 need to purchase those two great 2456 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:34,845 >> $65 as opposed to $120. 2457 01:41:34,845 --> 01:41:36,320 [laughter] 2458 01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,440 Yes. Yes. That would be that would be I guess on the people on 2459 01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:40,719 the people who sign up. They would have 2460 01:41:40,719 --> 01:41:42,320 to have that agreement to know in place 2461 01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,000 like okay I understand 2462 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,159 >> and we could put that in our policies 2463 01:41:46,159 --> 01:41:48,320 and procedures. So 2464 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,840 >> um yeah and that is something that but 2465 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,920 then yeah I guess it saves you the 120 2466 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,990 that you're paying. So 2467 01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:59,760 » yeah that's another thing I was 2468 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:00,960 wondering. You should put it in your 2469 01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:02,355 backyard so you have more trash in them. 2470 01:42:02,355 --> 01:42:03,600 [laughter] 2471 01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:04,960 >> Well, you're not supposed to put out 2472 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,639 three cans if you only have two, 2473 01:42:08,639 --> 01:42:08,880 >> right? 2474 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,040 >> I'm not taking it down because we we 2475 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:12,400 charge for that or we get charged for 2476 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:13,840 that as a city that 2477 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:19,270 >> per 2478 01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,360 I'd be okay with three with like a 2479 01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,400 yearly review. Come back every year, 2480 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,040 report how it's going, how many 2481 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,400 subscribers you have. 2482 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,480 >> Okay. where the money's kind of gone in 2483 01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:32,000 the community. Tell us some happy, 2484 01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,440 successful stories about some of the 2485 01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:34,480 kids, you know. So, 2486 01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:37,199 >> yeah, I'd love that. Yeah, that's what 2487 01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:40,880 we're hoping for. So, 2488 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,800 >> I I think you're really hoping for a 2489 01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,586 city to sign this agreement. Yes. 2490 01:42:45,586 --> 01:42:45,760 [laughter] 2491 01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,520 >> And you take [clears throat] the lead on 2492 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,760 this so that you can tell other cities 2493 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,840 that, hey, Gransville City, 2494 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,679 >> yeah, it's been successful there. We've 2495 01:42:53,679 --> 01:42:54,560 >> they've done this. 2496 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,560 >> Yeah. I mean, yeah, that is what we're 2497 01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,560 hoping for to show success and that it 2498 01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,960 works and that we can move to other 2499 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:02,719 cities that could use this. 2500 01:43:02,719 --> 01:43:04,239 >> I'm just thinking from a staffing 2501 01:43:04,239 --> 01:43:06,239 standpoint, you know, we talk about no 2502 01:43:06,239 --> 01:43:07,760 cost incurred by the city. Trying to 2503 01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:10,480 think of all of the scenarios. I'm 2504 01:43:10,480 --> 01:43:11,920 assuming we'll get calls, hey, my 2505 01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,000 neighbor has a yellow can, so we are 2506 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,400 going to have some city 2507 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,080 >> be sure you guys are delivering the cans 2508 01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:19,760 to us and then we deliver the cans to 2509 01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:20,080 the 2510 01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,280 >> Yeah. So you because you'll be picking 2511 01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,040 up the can anyway and that's what we 2512 01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,280 talked about. But we do have volunteers 2513 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,920 and board members that have said like we 2514 01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:28,400 could help 2515 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,199 >> 12 can replacements a week anyway for 2516 01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:35,360 just like average usage for like my 2517 01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,199 can's broken, my lid fell off or 2518 01:43:37,199 --> 01:43:39,040 whatever. I'm just trying to see what 2519 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,440 impact this has on the city outside of 2520 01:43:41,440 --> 01:43:42,159 what we've 2521 01:43:42,159 --> 01:43:44,320 >> like if it's successful then we 2522 01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,679 ultimately if everyone starts buying 2523 01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:47,920 yellow cans and we won't have to pay 2524 01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,560 that cost anymore for the city. 2525 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,639 >> That would be nice because it's very 2526 01:43:52,639 --> 01:43:54,159 expensive. Otherwise, we continue to buy 2527 01:43:54,159 --> 01:43:55,760 the cans and continue to our same 2528 01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,239 program that we're going to do. Um the 2529 01:43:58,239 --> 01:43:59,760 other thing is yeah, you're you're right 2530 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,119 that we're going to get a lot of calls. 2531 01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:03,119 We already filled that and then the 2532 01:44:03,119 --> 01:44:05,360 question is do we have to then redirect 2533 01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,199 them to 2534 01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:07,920 uh your 2535 01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:09,199 >> Yeah, I think they would have to be 2536 01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:10,960 directed to us portion of that and 2537 01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:11,920 that's where we threw in an 2538 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,040 administrative fee plus the the park fee 2539 01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:16,960 to go along with that to help cover 2540 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:21,910 those costs right there. 2541 01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:23,760 » If the yellow can is broken, is that you 2542 01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:25,520 then they would call and say, "Hey, my 2543 01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:26,159 yellow can's broken." 2544 01:44:26,159 --> 01:44:27,760 >> No, they'd call the city and they would 2545 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,440 ask for more cans. Yeah, but we have 2546 01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:30,560 >> but they'll just drop off like 2547 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,719 >> Yeah, we'd have cans or parts take those 2548 01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:47,910 place like we currently do. 2549 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,000 » There's no further questions or 2550 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:55,510 comments. I need a motion. 2551 01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,520 I motion that we approve resolution 2552 01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,600 2026-53 2553 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,840 approving a pilot service agreement with 2554 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,800 a three-year agreement with review every 2555 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,360 year as we discussed with kids can for 2556 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,760 the kids can yellow cam program. 2557 01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:11,440 >> We have a motion by council member 2558 01:45:11,440 --> 01:45:13,280 Skinner. Is there a second? 2559 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:14,080 >> I'll second. 2560 01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,080 >> A second by council member Dalton. All 2561 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:17,760 in favor? 2562 01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,760 >> I. 2563 01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,600 >> All right. Let's give this a go. 2564 01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:22,159 >> Thank you. 2565 01:45:22,159 --> 01:45:28,629 >> All right. Thank you. 2566 01:45:28,639 --> 01:45:32,159 » We talk some more garbage. [laughter] 2567 01:45:32,159 --> 01:45:33,440 >> It's the topic of the night. 2568 01:45:33,440 --> 01:45:35,840 >> That's right. More garbage. Um, agenda 2569 01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:37,679 item number 10, a discussion regarding 2570 01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:43,830 the ACE bulk waste pickup. 2571 01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:44,800 » Who's this? 2572 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:46,560 >> Oh, good. I was like, 2573 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,040 >> no. Uh we're wanted to have council's 2574 01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,199 input on this because we have got a 2575 01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:54,000 couple quotes on doing bulk pickup again 2576 01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:55,600 and whether the council wants to do 2577 01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,159 that. Um it ranges there's you can 2578 01:45:58,159 --> 01:46:00,880 either do two times a year which ends up 2579 01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:05,199 being uh close to like 12 to $15 per 2580 01:46:05,199 --> 01:46:07,920 pickup or we can do it. So that' be 2581 01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:09,199 twice a year. 2582 01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:11,520 >> No hold on twice a year at a resident's 2583 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,080 home or like our pickup day that we do 2584 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,639 now with dumpster home. Not at this. 2585 01:46:16,639 --> 01:46:18,080 is the bulk pickup we're talking 2586 01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:19,840 about where we're going back to the old 2587 01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,440 way we used to do it in Gratzville where 2588 01:46:21,440 --> 01:46:22,960 you pick it up in front of your house. 2589 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:25,119 >> You throw out an old couch and it sits 2590 01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:27,280 there for three or four weeks and then 2591 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:28,400 finally gets picked up. 2592 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,080 >> Correct. Well, hopefully not like that, 2593 01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,600 but hopefully it's during their week 2594 01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,600 that they have to be done and map it out 2595 01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:35,920 and do all of that. Uh there was 2596 01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,719 interest in uh bringing this forward. So 2597 01:46:38,719 --> 01:46:39,760 that's what we want to see what the 2598 01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:41,199 council's desire was. 2599 01:46:41,199 --> 01:46:43,280 >> I got a lot of requests for that. So 2600 01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:45,119 would this be on top of what we 2601 01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:47,679 currently do, correct? Which is 2602 01:46:47,679 --> 01:46:50,800 >> in the spring or we would either stop 2603 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,239 that because we wouldn't necessarily 2604 01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:54,320 need to do that anymore 2605 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,239 >> or you could continue to do that and 2606 01:46:56,239 --> 01:46:58,159 this as well. But this would be a pass 2607 01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:01,199 through cost to the residents um because 2608 01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:03,440 it's uh 2609 01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:05,840 again doing the whole city uh depending 2610 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,320 on which route we take. If we do it the 2611 01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,560 every month, that ends up being more 2612 01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,480 like a 2613 01:47:12,480 --> 01:47:16,320 three and a half to$5 cost per month per 2614 01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,920 resident. So it ended up being more at 2615 01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,239 the end of the year if you do it every 2616 01:47:22,239 --> 01:47:25,440 month. So again, you're ranging from an 2617 01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:29,280 additional $200,000 to like $400,000 for 2618 01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,600 the cost of this program. And so that's 2619 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:33,040 the question is it would be a direct 2620 01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,840 pass through to the residents. So if you 2621 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,679 as a resident wanted to have the bulk 2622 01:47:37,679 --> 01:47:40,159 pickup, it would either be all or 2623 01:47:40,159 --> 01:47:42,560 nothing. You couldn't like opt in to one 2624 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,400 or two residents to do it. It's either 2625 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,880 we do it for the whole city or we don't 2626 01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:48,480 do it at all. 2627 01:47:48,480 --> 01:47:50,320 >> So everybody gets charged. 2628 01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,080 >> Yeah. Yes. 2629 01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:53,679 >> Because we just increased all the fees 2630 01:47:53,679 --> 01:47:55,199 and everything like that. That was kind 2631 01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:57,119 of the question is whether we wanted to 2632 01:47:57,119 --> 01:47:58,480 implement this at all. 2633 01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:00,080 >> What do we pay each year to do the 2634 01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,360 dumpsters twice a year? Anyone? It's She 2635 01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:04,000 gave 2636 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,400 >> We had the numbers. I want to say it was 2637 01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:07,600 like 8,000. 2638 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:08,639 >> Yeah, I think it's 2639 01:48:08,639 --> 01:48:10,639 >> eight or 9,000 I believe is what I I'm 2640 01:48:10,639 --> 01:48:12,239 going off of memory which is dangerous. 2641 01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:14,320 >> Her dumpster and we rotate through. 2642 01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:14,880 >> Yeah. 2643 01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:16,400 >> Um 2644 01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,639 I I'm trying to see the the reason for a 2645 01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:20,800 need for this specifically when we have 2646 01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,800 a landfill and if you have a trailer, 2647 01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,199 you just throw it couch on a trailer and 2648 01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:26,080 take it there. 2649 01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,199 >> That's the problem. 2650 01:48:27,199 --> 01:48:27,840 >> They do have 2651 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,520 >> ones that don't. Well, 2652 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,440 yeah, but is it the responsibility of 2653 01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:35,199 every citizen to pay for the ones that 2654 01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:36,960 don't? That's the question. And I guess, 2655 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,199 do you want us to put out a survey to 2656 01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:40,960 the residents to get 2657 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:45,280 >> I think even wanted to approach that. 2658 01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:49,040 >> Here's my problem. We we just we just 2659 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:53,040 debated for three months on a 5% 2660 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,199 property tax increase that amounted to 2661 01:48:55,199 --> 01:48:59,119 on average a$127 a month. 2662 01:48:59,119 --> 01:49:01,360 and and and here we are talking about 2663 01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:04,159 adding another $3.50 2664 01:49:04,159 --> 01:49:06,880 to every resident in Grantsville so that 2665 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:10,320 we can have a bulk waste pickup. I just 2666 01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,239 I mean 2667 01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:14,080 it's just another way to tax. I I'll 2668 01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:24,480 just I'll just say it straight up and I get it. Um it it it does make our our yards and our homes cleaner, 2669 01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:26,719 but I just I just don't know if I can 2670 01:49:26,719 --> 01:49:28,639 get behind it. This is This is my 2671 01:49:28,639 --> 01:49:30,080 thought. I don't think 2672 01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:32,480 >> it is just another way to tax, right? 2673 01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:35,119 >> And and we had a I mean, 2674 01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:37,760 >> it's it's one thing to donate to a 501c3 2675 01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:42,960 and and pay an extra $10 a month um or 2676 01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,320 $120 a year, which is vastly more than 2677 01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:50,480 the 5% that we were asking. So, but 2678 01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:53,440 that's a voluntary donation. This is 2679 01:49:53,440 --> 01:49:55,280 forced on everyone and it's an 2680 01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,920 additional tax above and beyond 2681 01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:00,400 >> the things that we've already had to 2682 01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:01,760 increase and this is not necessarily 2683 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,000 something we have to do. So that's my 2684 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:04,239 thought. 2685 01:50:04,239 --> 01:50:05,840 >> I agree with Rhett 2686 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:07,199 >> because it's all or nothing then people 2687 01:50:07,199 --> 01:50:08,880 can't opt out of it and so if I do pay 2688 01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:10,560 for the dump you know then I'm paying 2689 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:11,199 for both. 2690 01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:13,920 >> I agree. I think the what we currently 2691 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,560 do is fantastic. Like I mean I know it's 2692 01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:17,119 only 2693 01:50:17,119 --> 01:50:19,280 >> and it's wellreceived. I know it's only 2694 01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:22,719 twice, you know, well, it's is it twice? 2695 01:50:22,719 --> 01:50:26,080 a year, which I actually think is 2696 01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,080 >> and there's a cost associated with that 2697 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,480 and I know individuals take advantage of 2698 01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:34,719 that for that opportunity. Does it mean they could have something 2699 01:50:34,719 --> 01:50:38,960 in their yard longer or something that 2700 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,719 um 2701 01:50:40,719 --> 01:50:43,760 I mean we we do want to keep Gransville 2702 01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,840 beautiful and but I think that's an 2703 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,480 opportunity that we give the residents 2704 01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:50,000 to 2705 01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,119 allow for that. Um, and I I yeah, I 2706 01:50:53,119 --> 01:50:56,080 don't I don't like the idea of of making 2707 01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:57,360 it something across the board and 2708 01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,719 forcing forcing the hand of someone to 2709 01:51:00,719 --> 01:51:01,600 >> also that but 2710 01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,199 >> to be part of something at the 2711 01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:04,480 beginning. There's going to be couches 2712 01:51:04,480 --> 01:51:06,320 sitting out for a month. 2713 01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:07,679 >> I think that's why we got rid of it in 2714 01:51:07,679 --> 01:51:09,040 the beginning 2715 01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,360 >> was because of that. [laughter] 2716 01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,440 >> There's couches sitting out on the 2717 01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:14,080 sidewalk 2718 01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,000 >> since we got rid of the program five 2719 01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:17,280 years ago. They're still waiting. 2720 01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:18,639 >> Well, they think the program's still in 2721 01:51:18,639 --> 01:51:20,000 use. Oh, so 2722 01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:21,076 >> they're just waiting for someone to 2723 01:51:21,076 --> 01:51:21,760 [laughter] arrive here. 2724 01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,239 >> You sure somebody's not sitting in that? 2725 01:51:24,239 --> 01:51:27,760 >> They're not. There's no way. 2726 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,520 >> There we go. 2727 01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,440 >> I thought that was perfect. No, I'm 2728 01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:34,320 happy perspective staffwise. I mean, we 2729 01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,800 just had a lot of request 2730 01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,400 bring it to council. 2731 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,880 >> I think advertising when we do those two 2732 01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,080 pickups, if they've got something 2733 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:43,679 specific for there, I think that's an 2734 01:51:43,679 --> 01:51:45,440 opportunity to take advantage. I know 2735 01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:49,040 people do um maybe some more information 2736 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:51,119 on landfill landfill costs. Landfill 2737 01:51:51,119 --> 01:51:54,159 costs are significantly 2738 01:51:54,159 --> 01:51:56,639 reduced. So 2739 01:51:56,639 --> 01:51:59,040 >> for a vehicle you can 2740 01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:00,960 >> I know household waste you can you can 2741 01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,599 take a bit I Yeah, 2742 01:52:03,599 --> 01:52:04,639 >> I don't see it. 2743 01:52:04,639 --> 01:52:05,679 >> Okay, 2744 01:52:05,679 --> 01:52:10,310 >> there we have it. 2745 01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,800 Agenda item number 11, consideration of 2746 01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,679 resolution 2026-52 2747 01:52:15,679 --> 01:52:17,599 approving the Sunage Terrace master 2748 01:52:17,599 --> 01:52:19,679 development agreement and master lot 2749 01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:22,800 layout for phases 3 through six located 2750 01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,920 at approximately 1161 West Main Street 2751 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,320 in the R121 residential district. 2752 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,880 >> Uh please bear with me because my laptop 2753 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,520 is down and so now I'm just using my 2754 01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:36,880 phone. 2755 01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,920 Um this is a master development 2756 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,920 agreement for Sunage Terrace. Um 2757 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,239 including the lot layouts for phases 3 2758 01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:49,840 through six. Um in the lot layout um 2759 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,199 you'll see that phases a portion of 2760 01:52:53,199 --> 01:52:57,199 phase four and five do have smaller lots 2761 01:52:57,199 --> 01:53:00,719 than the R121 or the 21,780 2762 01:53:00,719 --> 01:53:04,480 square ft that is required. 2763 01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:06,560 Um the reason why those lots are 2764 01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,040 smaller, you can keep going. It's ways 2765 01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:12,560 down there. Um is because we have asked 2766 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,199 for the dedication of the half width of 2767 01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:17,199 Main Street, which is an arterial road 2768 01:53:17,199 --> 01:53:21,199 of 108 ft and the dedication of the 2769 01:53:21,199 --> 01:53:24,639 collector on the west side which is 90 2770 01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:28,149 ft. 2771 01:53:28,159 --> 01:53:31,280 So here is your 90 foot. Um, and they 2772 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,040 are dedicating the full width of the 90 2773 01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,199 foot and then the half width, which is 2774 01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:37,760 right around like 54 feet of Main 2775 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:39,840 Street. Um, you know, you're going to 2776 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,679 ask, well, why did Main Street shrink 2777 01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:45,760 here and then it's wider down here? 2778 01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,080 Um, in our master transportation plan, 2779 01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:49,920 it didn't show Main Street as an 2780 01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:51,840 arterial, but our current master 2781 01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:55,199 transportation does. It was just 2782 01:53:55,199 --> 01:53:58,000 didn't continue passing with. So rest of 2783 01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,520 these roads are at 66 ft. Um all these 2784 01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,400 lots down here we once we get about up 2785 01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,800 here we're at 20,000 square ft. There's 2786 01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:11,510 a child at 21,780. 2787 01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,920 » Do you know that 2788 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,080 background is a point? 2789 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:17,599 >> Yeah, but it doesn't work. 2790 01:54:17,599 --> 01:54:22,480 >> It's been it's been what maybe three and a half months since you came 2791 01:54:22,480 --> 01:54:25,360 and and talked with us and proposed this 2792 01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,920 and I think we We talked about 2793 01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,400 extensively we didn't have the MDA in 2794 01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,800 place, but we talked about the smaller 2795 01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,360 lots and and giving up that that right 2796 01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,719 of way so that we didn't in the future 2797 01:54:38,719 --> 01:54:42,320 encroach on the land of the uh the 2798 01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,520 residents on Taylor Road to the to the 2799 01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,880 west. And I I I think at the time, if I 2800 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:50,239 remember right, we all kind of agreed 2801 01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:52,719 that we thought with the minimal amount 2802 01:54:52,719 --> 01:54:56,480 of of square footage that was lacking on 2803 01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,280 the halfacre lots and considering the 2804 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,360 efforts on on the developers, I I I 2805 01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:04,560 thought we gave him direction to proceed 2806 01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,800 in this manner and to come back with us 2807 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,480 once we had a an MV in place. So, 2808 01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:11,040 >> correct. 2809 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,599 >> That's that's what I recollect 2810 01:55:13,599 --> 01:55:20,310 with all this. 2811 01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:21,840 And that was the variance that he 2812 01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:22,800 requested. 2813 01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,000 >> Correct. 2814 01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:30,629 >> Thank you, R. 2815 01:55:30,639 --> 01:55:34,159 And this did come with a recommendation 2816 01:55:34,159 --> 01:55:39,760 from um planning commission. 2817 01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,960 I believe this one was all three um 2818 01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,239 voted for approval or voted yes. Um 2819 01:55:46,239 --> 01:55:49,840 Derek was there for that. Um and uh 2820 01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:55,669 there was only three at the meeting. 2821 01:55:55,679 --> 01:55:57,520 » Shelby, remind me what the road is at 2822 01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,320 the far end of the subdivision. Like the 2823 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:01,840 road that they're dedicating. What What 2824 01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,280 is that? Is that 2825 01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,239 >> So that is a collector road on the west 2826 01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:08,880 side which will um connect into 2827 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:10,320 Highlands Boulevard. 2828 01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,000 >> So we don't have a name for 2829 01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:13,040 >> Highlands Boulevard. 2830 01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:14,800 Okay. 2831 01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:16,159 >> But it but it really in the master 2832 01:56:16,159 --> 01:56:18,000 transportation plan it's the road that 2833 01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:19,679 connects Green all the way around 2834 01:56:19,679 --> 01:56:20,719 the town, right? 2835 01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:22,800 >> No. I mean it will connect into but 2836 01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:23,760 that's not the road. 2837 01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:24,239 >> Okay. 2838 01:56:24,239 --> 01:56:24,880 >> Yeah. 2839 01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,480 >> That was the one that circled around and 2840 01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:27,599 connected N Green. 2841 01:56:27,599 --> 01:56:29,360 >> No, it'll green will go out. This is 2842 01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:31,280 further 2843 01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:33,440 >> east than where N green will be. Yes. 2844 01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:39,910 Okay. 2845 01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:43,679 » But the roads that are there that would 2846 01:56:43,679 --> 01:56:46,719 continue west um sorry I don't know how 2847 01:56:46,719 --> 01:56:48,560 exactly to describe that they would be 2848 01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,760 able to reach the collector road 2849 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:53,760 that would loop around 2850 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,960 >> potentially depending on how everything 2851 01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:58,880 built out. Right. So you have Clark 2852 01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:01,760 Street on the north side um that is 2853 01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:04,480 stubbed out. So if people on Taylor Road 2854 01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,239 developed out that could potentially 2855 01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:09,920 continue um and then there was an Main 2856 01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,679 Street will obviously continue through 2857 01:57:11,679 --> 01:57:14,159 that doesn't affect Taylor Road. So 2858 01:57:14,159 --> 01:57:16,239 >> and then that main street would get to 2859 01:57:16,239 --> 01:57:17,360 the 2860 01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:17,920 >> Yes. 2861 01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,000 >> Further west. Yep. Highlands Boulevard 2862 01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:21,679 and Main Street will both have a 2863 01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:29,109 connection to Okay. 2864 01:57:29,119 --> 01:57:36,229 See where is it? [clears throat] 2865 01:57:36,239 --> 01:57:40,310 This is 2866 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:43,199 I'm just looking at the U dot um 2867 01:57:43,199 --> 01:57:45,679 connectivity study that we have for Tula 2868 01:57:45,679 --> 01:57:48,960 County that I just have saved on my my 2869 01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:50,159 laptop. 2870 01:57:50,159 --> 01:57:50,480 >> No. 2871 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,080 >> So you're right. This is the road that 2872 01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,199 connects into N green and it kind of 2873 01:57:55,199 --> 01:57:57,119 circles around this way and then night 2874 01:57:57,119 --> 01:57:59,040 green kind of circles around. 2875 01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:01,199 >> Yep. Correct. 2876 01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:07,510 >> To build. 2877 01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:08,800 » It would just be on our master 2878 01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:10,480 transportation plan. 2879 01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:16,390 >> You're fine. 2880 01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:18,400 This is actually the road that connects 2881 01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,880 along the depo fence road and all the 2882 01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,040 way to sheep plane, right? 2883 01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,440 >> This this particular 2884 01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,840 >> No, we're Taylor. 2885 01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:28,400 >> No. 2886 01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:30,480 >> Okay. 2887 01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:33,360 >> No, this is up on by Matt Canyon Road. 2888 01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:35,679 So, this won't be near 2889 01:58:35,679 --> 01:58:36,480 >> the depot road. 2890 01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,800 >> I understand that. But the connectivity 2891 01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:42,719 plan shows a road that's in that in that 2892 01:58:42,719 --> 01:58:44,639 vicinity in that area that connects with 2893 01:58:44,639 --> 01:58:47,360 Main Street and then moves all the way 2894 01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:49,520 along the depo fence road and all the 2895 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:50,800 way up button. 2896 01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:51,199 >> Correct. 2897 01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:52,560 >> That's just what that's just what it 2898 01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:57,270 shows here. 2899 01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,040 » Do you know if in the planning 2900 01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:00,560 commission if there was any concern 2901 01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,840 regarding the lot size specifically? Um 2902 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:07,520 there was discussion of why are we not 2903 01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:10,800 keeping the lot sizes to meet the um the 2904 01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,599 code. Um and it came down to well you 2905 01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:15,840 know we're getting a full dedication 2906 01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:17,360 width of the collector road that is 2907 01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,679 being built out and then the half width 2908 01:59:19,679 --> 01:59:21,920 of Main Street when these two roads 2909 01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,239 don't are not required by his 2910 01:59:24,239 --> 01:59:26,400 development. 2911 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,480 And if Derek has anything to add. No, 2912 01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:35,040 that's is there just kind of tell us if we just went by the the lot sizes 2913 01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:36,560 that needed, what would those road 2914 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,639 widths be for those those roads? What's 2915 01:59:38,639 --> 01:59:40,080 the max we could we can make the 2916 01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:42,560 developer do just so we know what 2917 01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:43,840 >> so the trade-off is 2918 01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:46,960 >> a 66t rideway with 32 ft of asphalt is 2919 01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:48,719 the max that we could require for this 2920 01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:51,040 development. 2921 01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:54,239 So, we're gaining, you know, 30 feet on 2922 01:59:54,239 --> 01:59:59,920 the west and then um just shy of 66 feet 2923 01:59:59,920 --> 02:00:09,589 on the south 2924 02:00:09,599 --> 02:00:11,280 times hundreds of feet. 2925 02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:12,960 >> Yeah. Thousands. 2926 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:14,400 >> Yeah. On one end. Yeah. 2927 02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:19,430 >> Thousand plus feet, I'm sure. 2928 02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:22,320 And I I I know we've hit on this before, 2929 02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:25,440 but the open space is 2930 02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:26,800 >> HOA maintained. 2931 02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:29,830 >> Okay. 2932 02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:32,560 Those will likely probably be 2933 02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:35,119 natural gravity depressions that are in 2934 02:00:35,119 --> 02:00:37,119 those areas probably. Is there a canal 2935 02:00:37,119 --> 02:00:39,199 that kind of go runs? Is that 2936 02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:42,000 >> So there is a drainage ditch um that 2937 02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:43,440 runs down there. They'll have a walking 2938 02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,360 trail and you know like some tot lots by 2939 02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:48,320 it and it'll walk through. So right now 2940 02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:51,360 we are just um reviewing the final plan 2941 02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,599 for phase three as that one was already 2942 02:00:53,599 --> 02:00:57,199 um in progress meets the code um but 2943 02:00:57,199 --> 02:00:59,119 will require a landscape plan and 2944 02:00:59,119 --> 02:01:35,030 amenities. 2945 02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:37,360 I know the MDA is just a draft, but it 2946 02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:39,840 does have Mayor Crit signing it and 2947 02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,000 that'll all be updated correctly. 2948 02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:57,750 >> Correct. Yes. 2949 02:01:57,760 --> 02:01:59,920 I think it's what we agreed to. I don't 2950 02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:03,040 have any other questions. 2951 02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:04,080 >> All right. If there's no other 2952 02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:06,080 discussion, I need someone to make a 2953 02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:08,000 motion. 2954 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:10,400 Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve 2955 02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:12,639 resolution 2026-52 2956 02:02:12,639 --> 02:02:15,760 approving Sun Sunage Terrace Master 2957 02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,440 Development Agreement and master lot 2958 02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:19,599 layout for phases 3 through 6 located 2959 02:02:19,599 --> 02:02:22,239 approximately 1161 West Main Street in 2960 02:02:22,239 --> 02:02:25,119 the R1-1-21 2961 02:02:25,119 --> 02:02:27,520 resident residential district. 2962 02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:28,960 >> We have a motion by council member 2963 02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:30,239 Dalton. Is there a second? 2964 02:02:30,239 --> 02:02:30,880 >> Second. 2965 02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:32,800 by council member Butler. All in 2966 02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,440 favor? I 2967 02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:40,550 >> All right. 2968 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,040 Moving on to item number 12, 2969 02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:46,320 consideration of resolution 2026-51 2970 02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:48,639 approving a hold harmless and easement 2971 02:02:48,639 --> 02:02:51,199 acknowledgement agreement for property 2972 02:02:51,199 --> 02:02:56,000 located at 641 South Maxwell Drive. 2973 02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,480 >> Yeah, this came from um planning 2974 02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:01,360 commission. Um 2975 02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:04,000 and now we are here at city council to 2976 02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:06,560 determine if um [clears throat] 2977 02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:08,880 city council will make a consideration 2978 02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:11,840 for a hold harmless agreement. Um in 2979 02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:14,639 2025 the building department identified 2980 02:03:14,639 --> 02:03:18,320 a detached metal garage on lot 602 at 2981 02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:20,960 Wells Crossing subdivision. I personally 2982 02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:24,960 went out there and took pictures um and 2983 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,119 didn't see any disturbance to the 2984 02:03:27,119 --> 02:03:30,960 retention basin itself. It is built on 2985 02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:34,239 easements. Um, this was built without 2986 02:03:34,239 --> 02:03:37,440 building permits or a site plan. Um, and 2987 02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:39,360 that's what's bringing us here today. We 2988 02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,520 worked with the homeowner to get a 2989 02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:44,320 engineer to um, you know, go out and 2990 02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:46,480 determine that it's not affecting the 2991 02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:49,920 freeboard or the pond storage um, of 2992 02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:51,920 that of the property. So, it's not built 2993 02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:53,679 in the basin itself. It's just built on 2994 02:03:53,679 --> 02:03:56,480 the easement. Um, and then it's built 2995 02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:59,840 on, I believe, the rear, um, the 2996 02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:02,480 southern or eastern easement, which is 2997 02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:05,040 the rear of their property. Um, and if 2998 02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:07,840 you scroll down, you can see 2999 02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:10,320 some pictures that we've So, here's a 3000 02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:12,320 site plan. If you'll scroll up just a 3001 02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:13,679 little bit. 3002 02:04:13,679 --> 02:04:15,199 >> Sorry, it pops. 3003 02:04:15,199 --> 02:04:17,280 >> So, [clears throat] um, in the blue is 3004 02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,119 the actual basin itself, and then 3005 02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:20,719 highlighted in the green is the 3006 02:04:20,719 --> 02:04:23,920 easement. Um, and then there is the 3007 02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:27,119 approximate location of the shed. And 3008 02:04:27,119 --> 02:04:33,750 then if you want to keep scrolling down, 3009 02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:35,920 so you can see the 3010 02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:36,719 >> I swear 3011 02:04:36,719 --> 02:04:40,080 >> basin there itself. Um, it's not 3012 02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:42,159 affecting it to the point that they have 3013 02:04:42,159 --> 02:04:43,360 enough room to be able to park their 3014 02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:46,320 trailer there. And if you want to 3015 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,560 So again, they're they're not affecting 3016 02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:51,280 the basin itself. If you want to keep 3017 02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:54,719 going, keep going. 3018 02:04:54,719 --> 02:04:57,840 So, it's inleting and outleting 3019 02:04:57,840 --> 02:05:00,560 um as designed and is holding the same 3020 02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:06,070 pond volume as designed. Keep going. 3021 02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:09,440 You just scroll through these. 3022 02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:12,560 Um this is the picture of when it was 3023 02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:16,400 constructed by the developer or the home 3024 02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:17,920 builder. You scroll down just a little 3025 02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:27,030 bit more. There you go. 3026 02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:29,280 So 3027 02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:32,719 then we do have the PDF from their 3028 02:05:32,719 --> 02:05:38,310 engineer. 3029 02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:45,910 » When was this home constructed? 3030 02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:46,719 » Sorry, I 3031 02:05:46,719 --> 02:05:49,040 >> sorry question. I don't have [laughter] 3032 02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:50,400 my laptop. 3033 02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:52,480 >> What's the address again? Sure. 3034 02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:56,070 >> Um [snorts] 3035 02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:58,320 » 641 South Maxwell Drive. 3036 02:05:58,320 --> 02:05:59,199 >> Thank you. 3037 02:05:59,199 --> 02:06:04,870 >> Thanks. 3038 02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,679 » So the retention basin is is it is it 3039 02:06:07,679 --> 02:06:09,280 just for the property? 3040 02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:13,430 >> Yes. 3041 02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:27,430 » 2024. 3042 02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:29,840 and they sit in an R121 zone or is this 3043 02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:32,480 a is this an acre? 3044 02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:36,079 >> Um, so it's an R121 zone, but with Wells 3045 02:06:36,079 --> 02:06:37,679 Crossing in their development agreement, 3046 02:06:37,679 --> 02:06:39,840 they are allowed smaller lots. 3047 02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:41,440 >> This is a 0.5. 3048 02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:41,679 >> Yeah. 3049 02:06:41,679 --> 02:06:51,350 Okay. 3050 02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:52,639 How far are they encroaching on the 3051 02:06:52,639 --> 02:06:55,599 easement? It looks like 3052 02:06:55,599 --> 02:06:57,679 >> Well, you go back to that other picture. 3053 02:06:57,679 --> 02:06:59,760 There you go. Yeah. And zoom in to the 3054 02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:01,360 top. 3055 02:07:01,360 --> 02:07:03,280 >> Okay. 3056 02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:06,400 Two feet on the 3057 02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:08,719 right side, which 3058 02:07:08,719 --> 02:07:11,679 is the west side maybe. South side 3059 02:07:11,679 --> 02:07:12,480 maybe. 3060 02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:13,440 >> Yeah. So, 3061 02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:16,880 >> and then five feet on the 3062 02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:19,520 other side, 3063 02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:21,440 >> but it's not affecting in any way the 3064 02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:23,040 volume that the pond can 3065 02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:23,360 >> no 3066 02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:26,000 >> can hold. And they had an they had an 3067 02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:28,960 engineer actually go out and um give us 3068 02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:30,960 a document and then we had Barry, the 3069 02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:32,880 city engineer, review that and determine 3070 02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:38,310 that it was not affecting the volume. 3071 02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:40,159 » So, isn't this is a good thing, right? 3072 02:07:40,159 --> 02:07:43,360 The whole harmless protects the city. 3073 02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:44,800 Correct. 3074 02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:46,880 >> Yes. 3075 02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:48,400 >> And it looks like the homeowner's done 3076 02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:50,239 everything we've asked him to do. 3077 02:07:50,239 --> 02:07:51,360 >> Correct. 3078 02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:53,040 >> Other than pull a permit. 3079 02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:53,920 >> Oh, wow. 3080 02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:55,040 >> Other than what did you say? 3081 02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:56,800 >> Pull a permit to build the building. 3082 02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:00,639 >> Oh, yeah. In the first place. 3083 02:08:00,639 --> 02:08:02,320 Well, it also says right now he's not 3084 02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:04,320 encroaching, but if something happens 3085 02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:05,920 like we reserve the right to go back in, 3086 02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,239 this that's what it says in here. 3087 02:08:08,239 --> 02:08:09,119 >> Tyson, 3088 02:08:09,119 --> 02:08:11,119 >> at least that's what I read. if it does 3089 02:08:11,119 --> 02:08:12,960 eventually somehow. 3090 02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:16,000 >> So the with respect to the uh public 3091 02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:20,000 utility ements um if if there is a need 3092 02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:24,639 to go in and and move something then those public utilities will will do 3093 02:08:24,639 --> 02:08:27,520 that um of of which Grantsville City is 3094 02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,800 one of the public utilities. 3095 02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,040 So that'll be at the at the homeowners 3096 02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:41,750 expense. 3097 02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:44,400 These whole harmless agreements are 3098 02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,719 helpful in these circumstances because 3099 02:08:46,719 --> 02:08:49,199 it does protect the city. It puts leaf 3100 02:08:49,199 --> 02:08:54,320 um the onus on the um the encroacher 3101 02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:56,880 um in into the drainage area. This one 3102 02:08:56,880 --> 02:09:00,239 is a lowrisk encroachment uh based on 3103 02:09:00,239 --> 02:09:02,639 the engineering reports that have said 3104 02:09:02,639 --> 02:09:05,199 that you know this is not into the the 3105 02:09:05,199 --> 02:09:07,679 retention area. sort of up on the bank 3106 02:09:07,679 --> 02:09:12,159 of the of the of the area. Um, but as as 3107 02:09:12,159 --> 02:09:14,159 far as like a city policy for this type 3108 02:09:14,159 --> 02:09:16,560 of thing, um, the hold harmless 3109 02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:18,079 agreement protects a city if there were 3110 02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:20,159 to be a more substantial encroachment 3111 02:09:20,159 --> 02:09:22,239 that um, doesn't necessarily mean we 3112 02:09:22,239 --> 02:09:24,719 would always allow that. if with the 3113 02:09:24,719 --> 02:09:26,560 hold harmless agreement, but if we if it 3114 02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:28,000 is a circumstance where we will allow 3115 02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:29,840 it, the hold harmless agreement could 3116 02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:32,800 accompany that approval um just for 3117 02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:35,040 further protection for the city if 3118 02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:38,480 somehow those water flows changed and um 3119 02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:40,079 there was some damage to a neighboring 3120 02:09:40,079 --> 02:09:44,709 property because of it. 3121 02:09:44,719 --> 02:09:47,360 » Do we know if the old builder built this 3122 02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:49,040 himself or did they have a builder do 3123 02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:50,560 it? Do we know? 3124 02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,960 >> I'm not sure. I mean looking at it, it 3125 02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:55,440 was pretty nicely built because 3126 02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:57,280 >> I just know from when I was on planning 3127 02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:59,440 commission, we got quite a few of these 3128 02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,159 like once every other meeting or so, you 3129 02:10:02,159 --> 02:10:03,520 know. So I'm just trying to think like 3130 02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:06,079 and it goes back to Mcichael like how do 3131 02:10:06,079 --> 02:10:08,719 we educate it so then these don't come 3132 02:10:08,719 --> 02:10:09,920 in front of us all the time like 3133 02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:11,119 >> I thought it was you 3134 02:10:11,119 --> 02:10:13,840 >> we send a mass email to the builders or 3135 02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:16,239 what I mean [snorts] just how do we 3136 02:10:16,239 --> 02:10:20,079 prevent this this from happening? 3137 02:10:20,079 --> 02:10:21,520 That's no different than the curb cut we 3138 02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:23,040 got a few weeks ago. 3139 02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:26,960 >> That's what I said on McMichel. Yeah. 3140 02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:32,550 Shouldn't have done that. 3141 02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:35,840 I'll try to read. 3142 02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,719 Thanks. 3143 02:10:38,719 --> 02:10:39,920 Mayor, I make a motion to approve 3144 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:42,639 resolution 2026-51 3145 02:10:42,639 --> 02:10:45,760 approving the hold armless and easement 3146 02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:47,280 acknowledgement agreement for property 3147 02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:49,920 located 641 South Maxwell Drive. 3148 02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:51,440 >> All right, we have a motion by Council 3149 02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:52,960 Member Butler. Is there a second? 3150 02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:53,840 >> I'll second it. 3151 02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:55,599 >> Second by Council Member Williams. All 3152 02:10:55,599 --> 02:10:58,159 in favor? 3153 02:10:58,159 --> 02:11:01,270 >> Okay. 3154 02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:03,360 Item number 13, consideration of 3155 02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:05,920 resolution 2026-55 3156 02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:07,760 approving the Falcon's Landing Master 3157 02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:09,440 Development Agreement for property 3158 02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:11,599 located approximately at Booth Street 3159 02:11:11,599 --> 02:11:15,199 and Wild Rose Drive. 3160 02:11:15,199 --> 02:11:18,400 Keep going. 3161 02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:21,199 Um, so staff brought this to planning 3162 02:11:21,199 --> 02:11:22,560 commission right there. Click on that 3163 02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:26,960 one. um earlier this year to discuss the 3164 02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:31,040 extension of Wild Rose Drive and um I am 3165 02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:33,199 just showing you the initial plat that 3166 02:11:33,199 --> 02:11:36,000 was approved and you'll see lots like 3167 02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:40,000 11A and 11B and any lot that is named 3168 02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:42,400 you know A and B are actually an 3169 02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:45,840 attached um duplex and so they're I 3170 02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,239 believe it's ends up being 29 units that 3171 02:11:48,239 --> 02:11:50,800 could be placed on here. Um you can see 3172 02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:52,880 the lots are right around 6,700 square 3173 02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:58,870 ft² um with these attached units 3174 02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:02,159 and then if you scroll click on your 3175 02:12:02,159 --> 02:12:04,239 little side. 3176 02:12:04,239 --> 02:12:06,960 >> So together they're like close to 13,000 3177 02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:08,159 ft. 3178 02:12:08,159 --> 02:12:10,800 >> Correct. So, initially they were 12,000 3179 02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:14,719 ft², but because R112 allows for um 3180 02:12:14,719 --> 02:12:18,000 attached duplexes, then in our code it 3181 02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:19,599 says, you know, you have to add an 3182 02:12:19,599 --> 02:12:22,000 additional,000 square ft and then you 3183 02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:23,840 can cut that lot in half, which reduces 3184 02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:26,560 it down to 6,000 ft and then you have a 3185 02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:28,480 zero lot line where those homes are 3186 02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:31,280 attached. You click on that plat. 3187 02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:32,880 >> Yep. 3188 02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:34,719 And so, 3189 02:12:34,719 --> 02:12:37,760 um, what was done here is Wild Rose is 3190 02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,239 now extended through so it can continue 3191 02:12:40,239 --> 02:12:42,800 instead of deadending at Booth Street. 3192 02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:45,520 And we have turned those lots, the 11A 3193 02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:48,079 and the 11B or the A and B lots into 3194 02:12:48,079 --> 02:12:50,480 single family detached homes. So you can 3195 02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:53,679 see like lot 11 and 12 are 7,000 ft² 3196 02:12:53,679 --> 02:12:55,920 versus the 6,700 3197 02:12:55,920 --> 02:12:58,079 square ft they initially were with 3198 02:12:58,079 --> 02:13:00,400 attached single family homes versus 3199 02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:04,000 detached single family homes. Um now to 3200 02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:07,199 address the setbacks, yes, this um 3201 02:13:07,199 --> 02:13:10,480 development was vested with 7 and 1/2 3202 02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:13,040 sideyard setbacks because our code used 3203 02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:15,440 to say 7 1/25, 3204 02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:19,040 but because it was ambiguous, 3205 02:13:19,040 --> 02:13:21,440 that meant we had to um go in favor of 3206 02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:24,079 the applicant. And so they were able to 3207 02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:26,320 get the 7 and 1/2 and 7 and 1/2 on each 3208 02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:28,000 side, 3209 02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:30,159 >> which we've remedied and fixed, correct, 3210 02:13:30,159 --> 02:13:31,280 in the past year. 3211 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:34,079 >> Yes. Now it is 7 and 12 on one side and 3212 02:13:34,079 --> 02:13:36,800 15 half on the other side. 3213 02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:44,390 >> One way or the other. 3214 02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:46,480 » Shelby, there's a lot of questions on 3215 02:13:46,480 --> 02:13:48,880 this retention basin. 3216 02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:49,840 >> Yes. 3217 02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:52,719 >> Can you We had questions on depth on 3218 02:13:52,719 --> 02:13:55,040 where the fence is going. Can you 3219 02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:56,560 address all that? 3220 02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:58,800 >> Correct. So the fence would obviously be 3221 02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:01,360 on the property line. So it would go 3222 02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:06,480 from lot 16 around to lot 9 down to lot 3223 02:14:06,480 --> 02:14:10,320 six. Um so north down to the west side 3224 02:14:10,320 --> 02:14:12,560 and then it would go around lot 5 all 3225 02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:15,360 the way to lot one. Um because of like 3226 02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:17,119 sight triangle issues and things like 3227 02:14:17,119 --> 02:14:19,760 that. Lot 28 and 17 wouldn't have one 3228 02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:22,719 because they do have a double front yard 3229 02:14:22,719 --> 02:14:24,800 and so there would be issues with those 3230 02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:28,159 two intersections. 3231 02:14:28,159 --> 02:14:31,440 Um, I did a little bit of research while 3232 02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:33,599 we were waiting. Sorry, I've got to use 3233 02:14:33,599 --> 02:14:38,320 my phone. So, the basin or the retention 3234 02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:43,840 um basin above lots 16 through 9 is 4T 3235 02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:45,520 deep 3236 02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:48,800 in total and 30 ft wide. Okay. 3237 02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,119 >> And is it part of the lot so the 3238 02:14:51,119 --> 02:14:54,079 homeowner takes control of it or is it a 3239 02:14:54,079 --> 02:14:56,960 separate retention basis? No, it's part 3240 02:14:56,960 --> 02:15:00,560 of the lot. So, you'll see um lots 17, 3241 02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:05,440 28, 24, 21, the middle section has um 3242 02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:08,000 lot retention basins and then the 3243 02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:09,760 northern lots will have their own 3244 02:15:09,760 --> 02:15:12,960 retention basins as well. So, initially 3245 02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,599 um lots 9 and 10 were combined and there 3246 02:15:15,599 --> 02:15:17,920 was just one large retention basin 3247 02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:19,840 approximately where lot 10 is, 3248 02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:22,320 >> right? And so we've 3249 02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:24,239 instead of having one giant deep hole, 3250 02:15:24,239 --> 02:15:27,119 we've reduced how deep it is so it can 3251 02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:29,440 still be utilized and placed it on the 3252 02:15:29,440 --> 02:15:30,320 back of the lots. 3253 02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:32,400 >> So let me ask you a question. I mean it 3254 02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:34,400 doesn't look like what what are the 3255 02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:38,560 required setbacks for these homes from 3256 02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:40,800 the the front yard setbacks. What what 3257 02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,119 for for this particular zoning? 3258 02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:45,119 >> Will you pull to the side? 3259 02:15:45,119 --> 02:15:45,760 >> Sorry, which one? 3260 02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:49,440 >> Will you pan to the just to the side? 3261 02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:50,079 Just 3262 02:15:50,079 --> 02:15:51,679 >> Yep. 3263 02:15:51,679 --> 02:15:54,239 >> You just X out of pages up there. 3264 02:15:54,239 --> 02:15:56,400 >> Whoops. 3265 02:15:56,400 --> 02:16:00,870 >> Love Adobe. 3266 02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:02,400 » Guys, I swear I know how to work the 3267 02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:03,199 computer. 3268 02:16:03,199 --> 02:16:06,560 >> Okay. Yeah. So, they have the front yard 3269 02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:10,320 setbacks at 25 ft. The 30foot triangle 3270 02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:13,760 shall remain. And then, um, in the rear 3271 02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:15,440 yard, we've actually extended the rear 3272 02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:18,960 yard on those northern lots. um and the 3273 02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:22,320 middle lots because we didn't want them 3274 02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:23,920 what it ends up doing is putting them 3275 02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:27,679 right on that 33 feet um 3276 02:16:27,679 --> 02:16:29,599 >> setback line and so we actually had them 3277 02:16:29,599 --> 02:16:31,920 come in an additional 5T and have shrunk 3278 02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:34,399 that up um so that they can't build 3279 02:16:34,399 --> 02:16:36,559 right on top of the 3280 02:16:36,559 --> 02:16:38,240 >> bas 3281 02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:39,920 >> or else we're going to have them sign a 3282 02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:41,040 hold harmless 3283 02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:42,399 >> correct 3284 02:16:42,399 --> 02:16:45,519 >> agreement the entire NDA 3285 02:16:45,519 --> 02:16:47,750 >> correct 3286 02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:50,160 because I I just I'm struggling with the 3287 02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:51,120 fact that 3288 02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:52,960 >> we're going to have a 25 foot setback 3289 02:16:52,960 --> 02:16:58,960 and I mean lot 16 says 46 feet 3290 02:16:58,960 --> 02:17:01,359 005. So 46 feet plus we have the the 3291 02:17:01,359 --> 02:17:04,000 curve there. So I'm assuming it's 50 ft. 3292 02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:05,599 So really the depth of the home is only 3293 02:17:05,599 --> 02:17:06,800 going to be 20t deep. 3294 02:17:06,800 --> 02:17:11,599 >> So it's actually 94 feet um in length 3295 02:17:11,599 --> 02:17:12,639 in total length. 3296 02:17:12,639 --> 02:17:14,319 >> In total length. Yes. 3297 02:17:14,319 --> 02:17:16,559 >> Correct. But where's the home going to 3298 02:17:16,559 --> 02:17:19,439 sit there? It's going to sit 25 ft back, 3299 02:17:19,439 --> 02:17:19,920 right? 3300 02:17:19,920 --> 02:17:20,960 >> Yep. 3301 02:17:20,960 --> 02:17:23,040 >> And then the depth of the home can't be 3302 02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:25,040 any further than the line of the 3303 02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:27,040 retention basin. You said 5t 3304 02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:28,399 >> to the side. 3305 02:17:28,399 --> 02:17:30,639 >> So, how how deep is this house going to 3306 02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:32,000 be on lot 16? 3307 02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:34,479 >> It'll be They'll be skinnier homes, but 3308 02:17:34,479 --> 02:17:37,439 they can only be a max of um 35 feet 3309 02:17:37,439 --> 02:17:39,760 tall per our code. 3310 02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:42,399 >> Yeah. Oh, that's 3311 02:17:42,399 --> 02:17:44,399 so I think to answer your question, 3312 02:17:44,399 --> 02:17:48,800 you're looking at a 95 foot deep lot. 3313 02:17:48,800 --> 02:17:52,080 You subtract out 25 ft for the frontage, 3314 02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:54,639 front setback, which is 70, and then 40 3315 02:17:54,639 --> 02:17:56,160 for the back. So, that leaves you 30 3316 02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:56,719 feet. 3317 02:17:56,719 --> 02:17:58,160 >> Yeah. 34T 3318 02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:00,800 >> depth for the home. 3319 02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:02,639 So, if you want an affordable home, this 3320 02:18:02,639 --> 02:18:04,639 may be the place 3321 02:18:04,639 --> 02:18:06,240 because you're going to be constrained 3322 02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:10,160 by the lot dimensions and the retention 3323 02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:11,920 pond about how big of a home you can 3324 02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:14,559 build, 3325 02:18:14,559 --> 02:18:17,200 but you're also looking at 3326 02:18:17,200 --> 02:18:20,800 is that 80 feet wide? 3327 02:18:20,800 --> 02:18:21,439 >> Yes. 3328 02:18:21,439 --> 02:18:23,599 >> So, that's about a 2,000 square 3329 02:18:23,599 --> 02:18:25,920 footprint. It's just an odd 3330 02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:27,840 configuration, 3331 02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:28,319 right? 3332 02:18:28,319 --> 02:18:31,840 >> It's long and narrow. long and narrow. 3333 02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:34,880 >> Well, for 16, if you go to lot 14 or 15 3334 02:18:34,880 --> 02:18:38,000 or the others, they're it's 3335 02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:39,840 >> Yeah. So, you're only looking at like 60 3336 02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:43,280 ft on those lots. So, it's 30 ft by 60, 3337 02:18:43,280 --> 02:18:47,760 which is 1,800 square feet 3338 02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:49,519 >> on per level. And then you've got a 3339 02:18:49,519 --> 02:18:51,200 garage that you subtract out a garage 3340 02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:52,800 and then but you can go down in a 3341 02:18:52,800 --> 02:18:55,200 basement and up to a second floor, which 3342 02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:58,479 would be a substantial sized home. 3343 02:18:58,479 --> 02:19:01,760 Well, the other thing is um they're 3344 02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:04,080 going to have to understand or we're 3345 02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:05,599 going to be back to the previous 3346 02:19:05,599 --> 02:19:07,920 discussion item is that nothing can be 3347 02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:12,559 built in that retention basin. So, 3348 02:19:12,559 --> 02:19:14,559 they're going to have very limited 3349 02:19:14,559 --> 02:19:18,240 access to use their available acreage. 3350 02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:19,280 >> Correct. 3351 02:19:19,280 --> 02:19:21,280 for for 20 years. I had this in my 3352 02:19:21,280 --> 02:19:24,000 backyard and we just had a 3353 02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:26,880 >> we built a five four foot rock wall and 3354 02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:30,559 then we grass the retention basin. So we 3355 02:19:30,559 --> 02:19:32,880 had it there. So we had grass in our 3356 02:19:32,880 --> 02:19:36,800 trampoline and we do a back flip off the 3357 02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:40,399 rocks onto the onto the [laughter] 3358 02:19:40,399 --> 02:19:42,160 >> when it's watery. 3359 02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:44,160 >> But I maintained that. I mean I mowed 3360 02:19:44,160 --> 02:19:47,359 that. I looked nice. It was [snorts] 3361 02:19:47,359 --> 02:19:48,720 >> That's Chuck Williams. 3362 02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:50,160 >> Yeah, it could be it can be known really 3363 02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:52,399 nice. I I want to say though, 3364 02:19:52,399 --> 02:19:55,200 >> um we have changed the ordinance to not 3365 02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:56,880 allow for this kind of thing anymore. 3366 02:19:56,880 --> 02:19:58,319 You have to have if you're going to have 3367 02:19:58,319 --> 02:20:00,640 a detention pond, it can't be in 3368 02:20:00,640 --> 02:20:03,040 people's backyards like this anymore. Or 3369 02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:04,640 those little weird triangles in there 3370 02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:06,160 and put a retention pond in there and 3371 02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:08,160 you get a major water event. You're 3372 02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:08,960 going to have 3373 02:20:08,960 --> 02:20:10,720 >> it's a big swimming pool and where it 3374 02:20:10,720 --> 02:20:12,479 crosses 3375 02:20:12,479 --> 02:20:14,560 >> lot lines there. That's the real problem 3376 02:20:14,560 --> 02:20:15,040 is 3377 02:20:15,040 --> 02:20:15,520 >> right, 3378 02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:17,680 >> you know, lot 15 may decide let's fill 3379 02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:20,319 this sucker in and then lot 16 gets 3380 02:20:20,319 --> 02:20:22,319 backed up and has the water has nowhere 3381 02:20:22,319 --> 02:20:23,600 to go. 3382 02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:27,680 >> So, uh that's problematic. And there's a whole host of problems 3383 02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:29,600 associated with having these backyard 3384 02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:31,920 retention ponds. Um, like many things 3385 02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:34,160 associated with this plat, we're not 3386 02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:37,840 doing them anymore. Um, but we're just 3387 02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:39,280 trying to get through this the best we 3388 02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:41,760 can. This feels like a good solution. 3389 02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:43,600 >> And and and why we're saying this is 3390 02:20:43,600 --> 02:20:46,479 because it's grandfathered in. Is that why 3391 02:20:46,479 --> 02:20:47,920 >> it is? Yes. 3392 02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:49,359 >> They had an application before the 3393 02:20:49,359 --> 02:20:50,720 ordinances were changed. 3394 02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:52,479 >> The the correct term the correct legal 3395 02:20:52,479 --> 02:20:54,319 term is vested. They're vested under the 3396 02:20:54,319 --> 02:20:57,670 previous ordinances. 3397 02:20:57,680 --> 02:20:59,680 » There was a term grandfathered in. 3398 02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:00,160 >> Yeah. 3399 02:21:00,160 --> 02:21:02,880 >> Earlier public health. 3400 02:21:02,880 --> 02:21:06,080 >> So just for Mr. Boyer's sake, planning 3401 02:21:06,080 --> 02:21:09,840 and zoning recommended a a six foot 3402 02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:12,479 white vinyl fence around this project. 3403 02:21:12,479 --> 02:21:12,960 >> Correct. 3404 02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:15,760 >> That white vinyl fence is going down the 3405 02:21:15,760 --> 02:21:19,520 property line down right there down Mr. 3406 02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:20,960 Boyer's property. 3407 02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:24,319 >> Correct. So if you drag down Alicia 3408 02:21:24,319 --> 02:21:25,680 >> other way 3409 02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:27,120 >> that's up 3410 02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:28,640 >> it'll come right along this property 3411 02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:30,880 line so it will be on boyers it'll be on 3412 02:21:30,880 --> 02:21:32,399 this property dripping right along that 3413 02:21:32,399 --> 02:21:35,600 black line 3414 02:21:35,600 --> 02:21:38,399 >> it is a requirement by state that the 3415 02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:40,479 water gathered on this property stays on 3416 02:21:40,479 --> 02:21:41,760 this property it cannot 3417 02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:43,600 >> or or discharge into an approved 3418 02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:44,479 drainage system 3419 02:21:44,479 --> 02:21:46,640 >> correct cannot push to berser 3420 02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:48,800 >> but there isn't any discharged approved 3421 02:21:48,800 --> 02:21:51,200 drainage system anywhere near here 3422 02:21:51,200 --> 02:21:53,040 >> or anywhere else in town really. There 3423 02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:54,800 are some places I guess, but this this 3424 02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:57,120 would definitely And so we do on-site 3425 02:21:57,120 --> 02:21:58,800 retention. There's a difference between 3426 02:21:58,800 --> 02:22:00,880 the retention and detention. 3427 02:22:00,880 --> 02:22:02,720 >> And the detention is a pass through and 3428 02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:04,479 the retention is hold it on site and let 3429 02:22:04,479 --> 02:22:06,640 it go into the ground. 3430 02:22:06,640 --> 02:22:08,640 >> And that's what this is. The water is 3431 02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:10,160 not supposed to drain anywhere 3432 02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:12,399 >> anywhere else. Now, it will, but what 3433 02:22:12,399 --> 02:22:13,920 happens is it goes into the ground, it 3434 02:22:13,920 --> 02:22:16,240 becomes ground water, and it resurfaces 3435 02:22:16,240 --> 02:22:20,150 over at Shelby's house. [laughter] 3436 02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:21,840 Hopefully it would resurface towards the 3437 02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:23,520 Salt Lake more. So 3438 02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:24,479 >> yeah. Well, [clears throat] 3439 02:22:24,479 --> 02:22:26,080 I I use Shel's house because I'm just 3440 02:22:26,080 --> 02:22:28,640 joking picking Shelby a little bit, but 3441 02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:29,439 >> we drink it. 3442 02:22:29,439 --> 02:22:32,080 >> Yeah, you do drink it. 3443 02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:32,640 >> So 3444 02:22:32,640 --> 02:22:33,680 >> later. 3445 02:22:33,680 --> 02:22:36,720 >> Shelby, is our plan for Wild Rose to 3446 02:22:36,720 --> 02:22:39,280 just go to a race street and stop or is 3447 02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:41,600 that was that on the plan to go 3448 02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:43,120 >> further? cuz I'm looking at homes here 3449 02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:45,520 and it's got to do a lot of jotting 3450 02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:47,920 around some stuff unless 3451 02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:50,479 >> correct. So we would like to get it at 3452 02:22:50,479 --> 02:22:52,800 minimum to race street but there is 3453 02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:56,560 potential um to um connect it into North 3454 02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:59,439 Street that would require um city 3455 02:22:59,439 --> 02:23:02,479 purchasing you know land and homes but 3456 02:23:02,479 --> 02:23:05,359 again that is the long future and it's 3457 02:23:05,359 --> 02:23:07,840 not going to happen tomorrow. 3458 02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:09,520 And then my other question that was 3459 02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:11,520 brought up at planning commission 2 was 3460 02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:14,800 they are asking for uh the open space 3461 02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:16,720 third fee and loo waved. 3462 02:23:16,720 --> 02:23:17,439 >> Yes. 3463 02:23:17,439 --> 02:23:20,160 >> Um just so everyone that wasn't there 3464 02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:22,160 how much was that and what's the 3465 02:23:22,160 --> 02:23:23,600 reasoning? I know it was brought up 3466 02:23:23,600 --> 02:23:25,359 planning commission but just kind of to 3467 02:23:25,359 --> 02:23:29,120 let everybody know what what why they 3468 02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:30,720 want that and why we think that we 3469 02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:31,600 should approve that. 3470 02:23:31,600 --> 02:23:34,319 >> Correct. So, um I don't have the 3471 02:23:34,319 --> 02:23:36,479 appraisal amount cuz that's not that 3472 02:23:36,479 --> 02:23:38,960 doesn't come now. Um I should have 3473 02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:40,960 obtained that. But if I had to 3474 02:23:40,960 --> 02:23:43,280 anticipate or guess um I would guess 3475 02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:46,080 right around $5 to $8,000 um would be 3476 02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:48,240 the fee in L that would be given to the 3477 02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:50,160 city. The issue is is that needs to be 3478 02:23:50,160 --> 02:23:54,000 used within one mile. And I mean there 3479 02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:56,720 might be one park that it could be used 3480 02:23:56,720 --> 02:23:59,760 towards. One property that is within a 3481 02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:03,040 mile of that is right by Soulberg's 3482 02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:04,640 if we were to ever use that for 3483 02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:05,439 anything. 3484 02:24:05,439 --> 02:24:09,439 >> What about the rodeo grounds? 3485 02:24:09,439 --> 02:24:11,359 >> It's not considered a park. 3486 02:24:11,359 --> 02:24:12,880 >> What about the 3487 02:24:12,880 --> 02:24:14,880 >> I'm thinking of the pirate one. The 3488 02:24:14,880 --> 02:24:16,399 >> Bevans 3489 02:24:16,399 --> 02:24:18,880 park off No, it's probably too far away. 3490 02:24:18,880 --> 02:24:19,439 >> The park 3491 02:24:19,439 --> 02:24:22,160 >> is the Scott Beavenon Park too far. Uh, 3492 02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:24,880 I think it will I think um Beavenons is 3493 02:24:24,880 --> 02:24:26,000 >> that's the one I was thinking of 3494 02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:34,630 >> is close. 3495 02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:36,720 » So this agreement though says the 3496 02:24:36,720 --> 02:24:39,200 product project shall contain no less 3497 02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:41,120 than 20% 3498 02:24:41,120 --> 02:24:44,479 open space. So where where have we 3499 02:24:44,479 --> 02:24:47,200 amended that to remove the open space 3500 02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:57,670 >> G1 in the development agreement? 3501 02:24:57,680 --> 02:25:09,190 Let me go back. 3502 02:25:09,200 --> 02:25:11,120 In the back of the development 3503 02:25:11,120 --> 02:25:14,399 agreement, it does state 3504 02:25:14,399 --> 02:25:22,150 uh the waiver of the open space. 3505 02:25:22,160 --> 02:25:28,469 Yeah. On exhibit G, which is page 22. 3506 02:25:28,479 --> 02:25:31,760 So, it talks about the fence. Um, and 3507 02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:35,439 then number six is the waiver of the 3508 02:25:35,439 --> 02:25:38,080 field. 3509 02:25:38,080 --> 02:25:40,479 >> And just so we know that Scott Beaven 3510 02:25:40,479 --> 02:25:43,680 Memorial Park is it's6 miles away from 3511 02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:44,960 this property. 3512 02:25:44,960 --> 02:25:46,319 >> Thank you. I was trying to measure on my 3513 02:25:46,319 --> 02:25:46,640 phone. 3514 02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:49,120 >> Yeah. change. Definitely things we can 3515 02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:49,520 do there. 3516 02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:50,720 >> There's a lot of things we could do 3517 02:25:50,720 --> 02:25:52,000 there. 3518 02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:54,160 >> I think we Well, 3519 02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:56,141 >> yeah. 3520 02:25:56,141 --> 02:25:59,510 [clears throat] 3521 02:25:59,520 --> 02:26:01,760 » Is the developer here tonight? 3522 02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:04,399 >> He was notified to say link. 3523 02:26:04,399 --> 02:26:05,280 >> Who's the developer? 3524 02:26:05,280 --> 02:26:07,359 >> Just curious. 3525 02:26:07,359 --> 02:26:15,510 >> Who is it? 3526 02:26:15,520 --> 02:26:20,070 The Andy. 3527 02:26:20,080 --> 02:26:26,870 He's on. 3528 02:26:26,880 --> 02:26:51,429 » Andy, can you hear us? 3529 02:26:51,439 --> 02:26:54,399 So, we're waiting for that. So, um, 3530 02:26:54,399 --> 02:26:56,800 citizen, uh, Mr. Wayne Boyer got up. He 3531 02:26:56,800 --> 02:26:58,160 talked about the retention basin. I 3532 02:26:58,160 --> 02:26:59,600 think we understand what that looks like 3533 02:26:59,600 --> 02:27:01,680 and the depth of it. I think we 3534 02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:04,479 understand that the privacy fence six 3535 02:27:04,479 --> 02:27:07,600 feet along the property line um, going 3536 02:27:07,600 --> 02:27:09,680 along there. I mean, he has a livestock 3537 02:27:09,680 --> 02:27:12,240 was his concern. and how will it affect 3538 02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:15,600 his livestock? Um, I think a thought of 3539 02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:17,680 his is maybe the depth of the retention 3540 02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:20,160 basin might harm his livestock, but if 3541 02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:22,479 the fence is in place, 3542 02:27:22,479 --> 02:27:26,800 um, then and I guess 3543 02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:28,720 I mean constructibility and when's the 3544 02:27:28,720 --> 02:27:30,880 timing of the fence and and the timing 3545 02:27:30,880 --> 02:27:32,800 of the the digging of the depth of the 3546 02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:35,760 retention basin and how that all happens 3547 02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:42,399 to be able to protect potentially the the neighboring um, the neighboring 3548 02:27:42,399 --> 02:27:43,920 property owner. 3549 02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:46,720 and his livestock. I mean, I I don't 3550 02:27:46,720 --> 02:27:48,319 know. Maybe we could give some direction 3551 02:27:48,319 --> 02:27:49,280 there. 3552 02:27:49,280 --> 02:27:51,439 >> Yeah. I don't know if the six foot vinyl 3553 02:27:51,439 --> 02:27:55,280 fence is necessarily an appropriate 3554 02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:55,920 um 3555 02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:59,938 >> deterrent for cows. I just think 3556 02:27:59,938 --> 02:28:00,479 [laughter] 3557 02:28:00,479 --> 02:28:02,000 >> maybe they're going to be a little more 3558 02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:03,680 destructive. 3559 02:28:03,680 --> 02:28:05,280 >> Well, 3560 02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:06,319 but 3561 02:28:06,319 --> 02:28:09,359 >> so there's probably a bob wire fence 3562 02:28:09,359 --> 02:28:10,399 property, 3563 02:28:10,399 --> 02:28:13,120 >> right? So just put this home wanted to 3564 02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:16,240 rip out the bob wire fence and replace 3565 02:28:16,240 --> 02:28:18,800 it with a white vinyl or does the bob 3566 02:28:18,800 --> 02:28:21,520 wire fence stay and the white vinyl go 3567 02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:22,640 against the wall? 3568 02:28:22,640 --> 02:28:25,200 >> It would depend on as long as it's on 3569 02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:27,120 Mr. Boyer's property then the vinyl 3570 02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:30,479 fence or then the our fence could stay 3571 02:28:30,479 --> 02:28:33,359 >> which would be protect the white vinyl 3572 02:28:33,359 --> 02:28:35,120 >> y' be a good thing. 3573 02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:37,600 >> Correct. So, I mean, we could ask um the 3574 02:28:37,600 --> 02:28:42,560 developer to um construct a new um barb 3575 02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:46,720 wire fence along the northern portion 3576 02:28:46,720 --> 02:28:49,200 um if needed and then place the vinyl 3577 02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:53,830 fence. 3578 02:28:53,840 --> 02:28:56,800 It's kind of a property owner to 3579 02:28:56,800 --> 02:29:04,630 property owner conversation. 3580 02:29:04,640 --> 02:29:06,240 » And one thing too I think property 3581 02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:08,160 owners are getting concerned about, we 3582 02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:10,560 discussed this last week in planning 3583 02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:12,240 commission and we'll probably see it 3584 02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:14,720 here shortly is people have their lives 3585 02:29:14,720 --> 02:29:16,800 and license I think covered it too, but 3586 02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:18,800 we but they're building these homes. 3587 02:29:18,800 --> 02:29:20,000 People have had livestock in there 3588 02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:22,000 forever. We have ordinances that say you 3589 02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:24,319 can't have animals within 100 foot of an 3590 02:29:24,319 --> 02:29:26,319 existing structure. How does the 3591 02:29:26,319 --> 02:29:27,840 grandfather work? I know we all went 3592 02:29:27,840 --> 02:29:29,200 over that so we kind of understand it, 3593 02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:31,120 but people are concerned about that. 3594 02:29:31,120 --> 02:29:32,880 They're questioning what are their 3595 02:29:32,880 --> 02:29:34,800 rights with their animals when these 3596 02:29:34,800 --> 02:29:36,479 type of develop developments start 3597 02:29:36,479 --> 02:29:38,720 coming in. 3598 02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:42,160 There's a old part of Logan that has a 3599 02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:43,920 farm right in the center of town and 3600 02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:45,920 he's got a sign up that says my cows 3601 02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:48,640 smell and they make noises and I've been 3602 02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:50,399 here since the beginning of time and I'm 3603 02:29:50,399 --> 02:29:53,520 staying here. So I think I think that 3604 02:29:53,520 --> 02:29:56,640 that's a valid question. Um 3605 02:29:56,640 --> 02:29:58,880 they have the right to they've been 3606 02:29:58,880 --> 02:30:01,760 there first. There's some 3607 02:30:01,760 --> 02:30:03,600 reasoning behind that. So 3608 02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:05,760 >> can you recap Tyson what you told them 3609 02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:08,479 ores? So under [clears throat] our code 3610 02:30:08,479 --> 02:30:10,720 got specifically excluded from our 3611 02:30:10,720 --> 02:30:13,520 definition of a nuisance any uh 3612 02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:15,760 agricultural production activities which 3613 02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:17,600 would include maintaining and keeping 3614 02:30:17,600 --> 02:30:22,000 livestock u animal husbandry that's of 3615 02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:23,680 traditional sense so long as it's done 3616 02:30:23,680 --> 02:30:27,359 in accordance with um the uh the 3617 02:30:27,359 --> 02:30:29,920 acceptable practices um in in that 3618 02:30:29,920 --> 02:30:35,520 industry. So if if they're you know if someone is maintaining a nuisance by 3619 02:30:35,520 --> 02:30:37,920 keeping a mud hole full of manure that's 3620 02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:40,720 you know a uh you know flies are 3621 02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:42,560 everywhere and there's you know they're 3622 02:30:42,560 --> 02:30:45,200 doing it outside the normal the normal 3623 02:30:45,200 --> 02:30:49,200 uh um um practices of of that of that 3624 02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:51,280 livestock industry then then that that 3625 02:30:51,280 --> 02:30:54,800 could be a nuisance. But um the the the 3626 02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:59,359 default setting for people that uh have livestock is that it is not a 3627 02:30:59,359 --> 02:31:01,840 nuisance. And so if if someone someone 3628 02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:03,760 were to move in and say, "Look, I'm, you 3629 02:31:03,760 --> 02:31:05,760 know, from San Francisco and we don't 3630 02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:08,640 have these smells and odors, well, um, 3631 02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:11,200 too bad, right? It's this is Grantsville 3632 02:31:11,200 --> 02:31:14,560 and we have those here." 3633 02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:16,880 >> When you bought the lot, the smells were 3634 02:31:16,880 --> 02:31:18,319 there. 3635 02:31:18,319 --> 02:31:20,640 >> We do put a note on the plaid that um 3636 02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:22,319 gives the prop the surrounding property 3637 02:31:22,319 --> 02:31:24,479 owners the right to farm and keep the 3638 02:31:24,479 --> 02:31:33,349 animals on there. So, 3639 02:31:33,359 --> 02:31:35,920 Let's let's just address the other 3640 02:31:35,920 --> 02:31:38,880 comment by uh uh 3641 02:31:38,880 --> 02:31:39,520 >> Mr. 3642 02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:43,840 >> Citizen. Yeah, Mr. Aert. Um 3643 02:31:43,840 --> 02:31:47,520 I mean the the lot sizes are as such. 3644 02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:49,200 RM7 3645 02:31:49,200 --> 02:31:53,680 code does allow for height. I understand 3646 02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:58,080 blocking views. Um no one likes that. 3647 02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:01,040 Uh but 3648 02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:02,720 the property owner does have rights as 3649 02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:05,600 well, right? And I I I I understand that 3650 02:32:05,600 --> 02:32:08,000 we're we're trying to balance that to a 3651 02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:11,200 certain extent, but um we do still have 3652 02:32:11,200 --> 02:32:13,280 our codes. They they can build up, they 3653 02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:16,080 can build vertical, and obviously we've 3654 02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:18,399 discussed the fact that the seven and a 3655 02:32:18,399 --> 02:32:20,880 half feet on both sides, why we don't 3656 02:32:20,880 --> 02:32:24,319 like it, we our hands are somewhat tied 3657 02:32:24,319 --> 02:32:26,160 because they've already applied for it. 3658 02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:28,880 Have we fixed that um within the last 3659 02:32:28,880 --> 02:32:33,439 year? Yes, we have. Um but I I I just 3660 02:32:33,439 --> 02:32:36,960 don't know if we can if we can 3661 02:32:36,960 --> 02:32:39,040 require that of this this developer at 3662 02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:40,080 this time. So, 3663 02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:42,160 >> could we require it on lots one through 3664 02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:45,439 five where there are existing 3665 02:32:45,439 --> 02:32:47,280 residential 3666 02:32:47,280 --> 02:32:49,600 >> neighbors? 3667 02:32:49,600 --> 02:32:53,280 Require what? the seven and a half on 3668 02:32:53,280 --> 02:32:55,280 one side and 15 on the other just to 3669 02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:57,600 give that break in the 3670 02:32:57,600 --> 02:32:58,960 >> the little wider stance. 3671 02:32:58,960 --> 02:32:59,520 >> Yes, 3672 02:32:59,520 --> 02:33:02,560 >> you could request it. I we could request 3673 02:33:02,560 --> 02:33:04,800 it. I Yeah, I don't know. 3674 02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:07,040 >> Those are wider lots anyway. So, it 3675 02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:09,040 would make sense there in that 3676 02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:11,040 particular place 3677 02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:14,240 >> absent some [laughter] exception. It the 3678 02:33:14,240 --> 02:33:15,680 investing occurs at the time of the 3679 02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:18,640 application. So, if we were going to um 3680 02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:21,359 make a change at at this point, it would 3681 02:33:21,359 --> 02:33:23,439 have to be something that uh meets one 3682 02:33:23,439 --> 02:33:25,040 of the exceptions, which is a like a 3683 02:33:25,040 --> 02:33:27,840 prevailing uh um public health interest 3684 02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:31,680 or um some something like that. 3685 02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:33,120 >> Detrimental effect 3686 02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:35,520 >> that Yes. Well, yeah, even more than a 3687 02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:36,880 detrimental effect. It would have to be 3688 02:33:36,880 --> 02:33:39,280 more like a a counterveailing public 3689 02:33:39,280 --> 02:33:40,960 safety interest. 3690 02:33:40,960 --> 02:33:45,120 Um there there there are reasons why why 3691 02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:46,960 we could require it. Probably none of 3692 02:33:46,960 --> 02:33:53,439 those exist here. It would have to be a favor that's asked. 3693 02:33:53,439 --> 02:33:56,319 >> It can't hurt to ask though, right? 3694 02:33:56,319 --> 02:34:03,110 >> Or we're being asked to wave too, which 3695 02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:05,280 » we're being asked to wave as well. 3696 02:34:05,280 --> 02:34:06,800 Correct. Is that 3697 02:34:06,800 --> 02:34:10,080 >> I don't see why we're doing that. 3698 02:34:10,080 --> 02:34:11,359 Yeah, I guess not necessarily a favor, 3699 02:34:11,359 --> 02:34:13,040 but it would have to be a voluntary 3700 02:34:13,040 --> 02:34:15,920 exchange for either kindness or 3701 02:34:15,920 --> 02:34:16,800 consideration. 3702 02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:21,030 >> Yep. 3703 02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:28,710 » Would you like me to call Andy? 3704 02:34:28,720 --> 02:34:34,896 » I mean, that's 3705 02:34:34,906 --> 02:34:39,270 [clears throat] 3706 02:34:39,280 --> 02:34:40,560 I think it sounds like the main concern 3707 02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:42,399 is the fem I mean everything else is 3708 02:34:42,399 --> 02:34:45,359 really we don't really have choice but 3709 02:34:45,359 --> 02:34:48,000 the the vesting 3710 02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:50,640 but I think we like most of us agree 3711 02:34:50,640 --> 02:35:00,550 that the fee is probably not worth it 3712 02:35:00,560 --> 02:35:02,800 see what benefit everyone else follows 3713 02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:05,040 is that see what benefit we're getting 3714 02:35:05,040 --> 02:35:09,830 from 3715 02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:21,910 in this situation at all. 3716 02:35:21,920 --> 02:35:23,680 » Shelby, this has been surveyed a bunch 3717 02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:25,439 of times. You may not know the answer to 3718 02:35:25,439 --> 02:35:28,960 this, but my experience spending my life 3719 02:35:28,960 --> 02:35:32,319 on the north side of Grantsville as all 3720 02:35:32,319 --> 02:35:36,240 the property lines are off but tend to 3721 02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:38,479 15 feet. 3722 02:35:38,479 --> 02:35:42,560 Is this property line on? 3723 02:35:42,560 --> 02:35:45,120 >> I'm not a surveyor, so I mean, I'm just 3724 02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:46,479 going off of what the plat is showing 3725 02:35:46,479 --> 02:35:50,399 and it's showing that they are. But 3726 02:35:50,399 --> 02:35:52,240 >> I agree with Jeff, though. I know there 3727 02:35:52,240 --> 02:35:55,040 have been historically some issues with 3728 02:35:55,040 --> 02:35:58,000 property lines. And so when this is 3729 02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:00,720 surveyed, if the property line does 3730 02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:04,240 become a dispute, at what point was it 3731 02:36:04,240 --> 02:36:07,040 grandfathered in that this was 3732 02:36:07,040 --> 02:36:09,120 I I have no idea. I'm asking. I don't 3733 02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:11,760 know what would happen when this these 3734 02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:13,760 homes don't fit because the property 3735 02:36:13,760 --> 02:36:17,520 lines are not correct. 3736 02:36:17,520 --> 02:36:19,840 >> So you're goes back to the how long the 3737 02:36:19,840 --> 02:36:21,359 fence has been there. Right. 3738 02:36:21,359 --> 02:36:22,880 >> Right. So, I mean, there's there's 3739 02:36:22,880 --> 02:36:24,800 several reasons why the property line 3740 02:36:24,800 --> 02:36:28,319 could change. Um, and and some sometimes 3741 02:36:28,319 --> 02:36:30,720 there's the the property line is what it 3742 02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:32,319 is, but other times there's adverse 3743 02:36:32,319 --> 02:36:34,319 possession that could occur where if 3744 02:36:34,319 --> 02:36:37,200 someone were to um openly and 3745 02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:41,359 notoriously take um some extra land and 3746 02:36:41,359 --> 02:36:43,200 it's been held for a number of years. 3747 02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:46,479 I'd have to refresh my um research on on 3748 02:36:46,479 --> 02:36:48,080 the number of years, but if it's been 3749 02:36:48,080 --> 02:36:51,680 held in such a manner and uh um then 3750 02:36:51,680 --> 02:36:54,160 adverse possession could change that 3751 02:36:54,160 --> 02:36:56,399 property line um that's not something 3752 02:36:56,399 --> 02:36:58,560 that the city gets to decide has 3753 02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:00,000 occurred. That's something that a court 3754 02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:02,560 decides has occurred um if it gets to 3755 02:37:02,560 --> 02:37:05,760 that point. But um these are basic legal 3756 02:37:05,760 --> 02:37:09,520 principles that tend to have will um 3757 02:37:09,520 --> 02:37:13,359 resolve cases before a court has to. Um 3758 02:37:13,359 --> 02:37:14,479 so there would be some sort of 3759 02:37:14,479 --> 02:37:16,479 stipulation at some point. I would guess 3760 02:37:16,479 --> 02:37:19,280 by way of settlement, but either way it 3761 02:37:19,280 --> 02:37:23,200 would likely halt much of the um the 3762 02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:26,399 ability to to to develop while that um 3763 02:37:26,399 --> 02:37:28,720 while that's being resolved. 3764 02:37:28,720 --> 02:37:28,800 At 3765 02:37:28,800 --> 02:37:31,439 >> least those laws that back then. 3766 02:37:31,439 --> 02:37:34,550 >> Yeah. 3767 02:37:34,560 --> 02:37:37,200 As far as we know, this goes to the 3768 02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:39,040 existing fence. 3769 02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:45,429 >> Yes. 3770 02:37:45,439 --> 02:37:48,560 » I believe if um Alicia scrolls up, it'll 3771 02:37:48,560 --> 02:37:54,790 state existing fence. 3772 02:37:54,800 --> 02:37:56,960 No, it just says it on the site plan 3773 02:37:56,960 --> 02:37:59,520 where the existing fence is, but on the 3774 02:37:59,520 --> 02:38:01,439 bottom you or at the top you can see by 3775 02:38:01,439 --> 02:38:04,720 10 it says found bar and cap 3776 02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:07,200 and then by one it says found bar and 3777 02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:08,960 cap. So I mean they're going off of 3778 02:38:08,960 --> 02:38:11,680 existing survey markers. 3779 02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:17,830 >> Okay, perfect. Thank you. 3780 02:38:17,840 --> 02:38:21,520 I'm not a big fan of lot five, 3781 02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:25,840 but I mean I I don't know as a homeowner 3782 02:38:25,840 --> 02:38:29,520 how much value that additional I don't 3783 02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:31,040 know 3784 02:38:31,040 --> 02:38:34,080 120 ft of space is 3785 02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:38,560 by 25 foot deep, 26 feet deep. 3786 02:38:38,560 --> 02:38:40,160 >> It's not our favorite either. It's just 3787 02:38:40,160 --> 02:38:41,120 an awkward 3788 02:38:41,120 --> 02:38:48,230 >> I understand. I just 3789 02:38:48,240 --> 02:38:52,080 If these were town homes, we could 3790 02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:55,040 ask them to potentially put like a 3791 02:38:55,040 --> 02:38:56,560 parking 3792 02:38:56,560 --> 02:38:58,160 lot there or something. We've done that 3793 02:38:58,160 --> 02:39:01,990 in the past, 3794 02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:04,479 but then the land law five wouldn't meet 3795 02:39:04,479 --> 02:39:06,319 the the minimum requirements. It'd be 3796 02:39:06,319 --> 02:39:08,960 way less than 7,000 square feet, I 3797 02:39:08,960 --> 02:39:15,590 imagine. 3798 02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:17,439 It's meeting the minimum requirements, 3799 02:39:17,439 --> 02:39:52,870 but the buildability of it is question. 3800 02:39:52,880 --> 02:39:56,319 There's no other concerns, questions, 3801 02:39:56,319 --> 02:40:10,710 comments. We need a motion. 3802 02:40:10,720 --> 02:40:12,479 If we don't agree with FEM then we can 3803 02:40:12,479 --> 02:40:14,160 we just have to deny the resolution 3804 02:40:14,160 --> 02:40:16,880 right we don't that's how it's written 3805 02:40:16,880 --> 02:40:17,600 am I correct 3806 02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:19,200 >> you know you can make a recommendation 3807 02:40:19,200 --> 02:40:22,240 to remove the waiver of the fianl 3808 02:40:22,240 --> 02:40:23,760 >> we can so we can do it without I mean 3809 02:40:23,760 --> 02:40:25,280 because that that's my big concern I 3810 02:40:25,280 --> 02:40:38,469 feel like we can do it that way then I'm Okay. 3811 02:40:38,479 --> 02:40:40,399 » So, mayor, I make a motion that we 3812 02:40:40,399 --> 02:40:43,439 approve resolution 202655 approving the 3813 02:40:43,439 --> 02:40:44,720 Falcons landing master development 3814 02:40:44,720 --> 02:40:45,920 agreement for the property located 3815 02:40:45,920 --> 02:40:47,439 approximately at Blue Street and Wild 3816 02:40:47,439 --> 02:40:49,040 Rose with the recommendation that the 3817 02:40:49,040 --> 02:40:54,150 fee and Lou is removed. 3818 02:40:54,160 --> 02:40:55,680 » We have a motion by council member 3819 02:40:55,680 --> 02:41:04,950 Skinner. Is there a second? 3820 02:41:04,960 --> 02:41:07,040 I'd still like to make the request that 3821 02:41:07,040 --> 02:41:09,200 one side of each one of lot one, two, 3822 02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:12,160 three, and four 3823 02:41:12,160 --> 02:41:16,560 be 15 ft on one side of the line. 3824 02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:19,990 >> I agree. 3825 02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:22,560 How do we I'm not sure how we could 3826 02:41:22,560 --> 02:41:24,640 >> I think it's something we could ask and 3827 02:41:24,640 --> 02:41:27,359 address in the DRC reviews, but from 3828 02:41:27,359 --> 02:41:28,800 what Tyson was stating, it's not 3829 02:41:28,800 --> 02:41:30,080 something we can require. 3830 02:41:30,080 --> 02:41:33,040 >> It's a request, not Yeah. 3831 02:41:33,040 --> 02:41:34,479 >> to it. So, I guess we did not approve it 3832 02:41:34,479 --> 02:41:37,590 today. 3833 02:41:37,600 --> 02:41:38,240 » I don't know. 3834 02:41:38,240 --> 02:41:41,962 >> I 3835 02:41:41,972 --> 02:41:42,560 [clears throat] 3836 02:41:42,560 --> 02:41:43,600 wider laws. 3837 02:41:43,600 --> 02:41:45,246 >> We have to do something with it. 3838 02:41:45,246 --> 02:41:45,359 [laughter] 3839 02:41:45,359 --> 02:41:45,920 >> What's that? 3840 02:41:45,920 --> 02:41:47,200 >> So, we have to do something with it. We 3841 02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:48,800 got 3842 02:41:48,800 --> 02:41:51,280 We could table it and have to we table 3843 02:41:51,280 --> 02:41:52,800 it and somebody could go ask them like, 3844 02:41:52,800 --> 02:41:54,479 "Hey, 3845 02:41:54,479 --> 02:41:57,840 will you stipulate to 3846 02:41:57,840 --> 02:42:00,479 >> Yeah, I mean he texted me and he says he 3847 02:42:00,479 --> 02:42:02,479 just he's speaking but it's not coming 3848 02:42:02,479 --> 02:42:05,439 through. 3849 02:42:05,439 --> 02:42:07,840 >> He's unmuted 3850 02:42:07,840 --> 02:42:11,520 on our end. So I don't know. 3851 02:42:11,520 --> 02:42:14,319 >> Can he call in? Can we like disconnect 3852 02:42:14,319 --> 02:42:15,439 and reconnect back in? 3853 02:42:15,439 --> 02:42:17,439 >> I told him to call me. There he is. 3854 02:42:17,439 --> 02:42:19,200 Yeah, waving the fee and lose a no from 3855 02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:21,840 me. So, be a rejection in that 3856 02:42:21,840 --> 02:42:23,040 situation. 3857 02:42:23,040 --> 02:42:23,520 >> So, 3858 02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:26,720 >> I'm getting feedback when Jake talks. 3859 02:42:26,720 --> 02:42:28,800 Can you just kick him off the meeting? 3860 02:42:28,800 --> 02:42:30,160 >> Kick Andy off. 3861 02:42:30,160 --> 02:42:32,560 >> Andy, can you get off the meeting and 3862 02:42:32,560 --> 02:42:33,840 then I can just put you on speaker 3863 02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:37,349 phone? 3864 02:42:37,359 --> 02:42:39,200 » Okay. 3865 02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:40,479 >> I don't know why I can't hear me on the 3866 02:42:40,479 --> 02:42:41,600 computer, but you can hear my phone. 3867 02:42:41,600 --> 02:42:42,479 That's weird. 3868 02:42:42,479 --> 02:42:45,439 >> Yeah. Okay. So, I have you on speaker 3869 02:42:45,439 --> 02:42:47,840 phone at city council and they are 3870 02:42:47,840 --> 02:42:48,960 requesting [snorts] 3871 02:42:48,960 --> 02:42:50,640 I'm not sure if you heard but on lots 3872 02:42:50,640 --> 02:42:53,439 one through four or five. 3873 02:42:53,439 --> 02:42:55,280 >> Well, four 3874 02:42:55,280 --> 02:42:57,200 doesn't make a whole lot of sense 3875 02:42:57,200 --> 02:42:59,439 because it's so narrow anyways, right? 3876 02:42:59,439 --> 02:43:02,240 >> Yeah. Okay. So, lots one through four to 3877 02:43:02,240 --> 02:43:04,800 have 7 and 1/2 ft on the sideyard on one 3878 02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:07,680 side and 15 feet on the sideyard on the 3879 02:43:07,680 --> 02:43:09,760 opposite side. 3880 02:43:09,760 --> 02:43:11,680 >> Yeah. As long as it matts out. We did 3881 02:43:11,680 --> 02:43:13,680 that on the after we spoke with you last 3882 02:43:13,680 --> 02:43:16,160 time on the properties on the north side 3883 02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:18,160 already to split it up more evenly. And 3884 02:43:18,160 --> 02:43:20,319 the fact that lot one has that I was 3885 02:43:20,319 --> 02:43:21,680 looking at it as they were saying that 3886 02:43:21,680 --> 02:43:24,319 the fact that lot one has that 10,000 3887 02:43:24,319 --> 02:43:27,120 square foot size so we can shrink into 3888 02:43:27,120 --> 02:43:28,880 that one to pull the other ones over. I 3889 02:43:28,880 --> 02:43:30,399 think we can absolutely do that. 3890 02:43:30,399 --> 02:43:33,120 >> Okay. 3891 02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:35,040 >> Could we make it from lot one to five 3892 02:43:35,040 --> 02:43:37,120 and make lot five a little bit wider? I 3893 02:43:37,120 --> 02:43:39,359 mean, I think now that he's saying that 3894 02:43:39,359 --> 02:43:41,359 and he's saying he's going to move those 3895 02:43:41,359 --> 02:43:43,920 lot lines and shift them over, I think 3896 02:43:43,920 --> 02:43:47,200 he's got enough room to be able to do it 3897 02:43:47,200 --> 02:43:49,120 at least [cough and laughter] 3898 02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:52,640 ft, which would give a 22 and a half 3899 02:43:52,640 --> 02:43:57,200 foot width between homes one through 3900 02:43:57,200 --> 02:44:00,560 five on one side. 3901 02:44:00,560 --> 02:44:01,439 >> Yeah. 3902 02:44:01,439 --> 02:44:03,600 >> Right. 3903 02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:06,399 >> Does that make sense? Mhm. 3904 02:44:06,399 --> 02:44:06,560 I 3905 02:44:06,560 --> 02:44:08,000 >> think that makes it more in line with 3906 02:44:08,000 --> 02:44:13,279 our code. It it it helps the neighbors 3907 02:44:13,279 --> 02:44:15,359 um so that the homes aren't so crammed 3908 02:44:15,359 --> 02:44:19,760 together and I think it's a I think it's 3909 02:44:19,760 --> 02:44:23,510 a reasonable ask. 3910 02:44:23,520 --> 02:44:25,120 » Sure. I think that's fair. That's 3911 02:44:25,120 --> 02:44:28,080 reasonable. 3912 02:44:28,080 --> 02:44:29,520 >> Put it in the MDA. 3913 02:44:29,520 --> 02:44:31,520 >> So, can Britney just add that then to 3914 02:44:31,520 --> 02:44:33,520 her motion? Maybe. 3915 02:44:33,520 --> 02:44:37,040 >> Just amend it. Okay. Thank you. 3916 02:44:37,040 --> 02:44:38,000 >> Bye. 3917 02:44:38,000 --> 02:44:39,359 >> I don't know all the numbers, so maybe 3918 02:44:39,359 --> 02:44:40,399 somebody else should because I don't 3919 02:44:40,399 --> 02:44:41,120 know what we just 3920 02:44:41,120 --> 02:44:44,240 >> No, but just amend amend your your 3921 02:44:44,240 --> 02:44:47,279 motion that lots one through five um 3922 02:44:47,279 --> 02:44:50,960 that one side of each one of those lots 3923 02:44:50,960 --> 02:44:52,880 has a 15 foot 3924 02:44:52,880 --> 02:44:55,279 >> setback sideyard setback. 3925 02:44:55,279 --> 02:44:58,640 >> Making the the total sideyard from from 3926 02:44:58,640 --> 02:45:01,359 easement to easement 22 and 1/2 ft in 3927 02:45:01,359 --> 02:45:04,319 between structures. 3928 02:45:04,319 --> 02:45:07,200 which is as per our code currently. 3929 02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:08,319 >> Yeah. 3930 02:45:08,319 --> 02:45:09,520 >> Right. Tyson, 3931 02:45:09,520 --> 02:45:11,200 >> you can handle that, can't you? 3932 02:45:11,200 --> 02:45:14,399 >> You just say I amend my motion to meet 3933 02:45:14,399 --> 02:45:15,520 what Rhett just said. 3934 02:45:15,520 --> 02:45:17,279 >> Yeah. Yeah. I'll just amend my motion to 3935 02:45:17,279 --> 02:45:19,040 also include what Rhett just said as far 3936 02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:20,319 as the setbacks. 3937 02:45:20,319 --> 02:45:21,840 >> Okay. We have an amended motion. 3938 02:45:21,840 --> 02:45:23,520 >> So, the two parts of the motion are 3939 02:45:23,520 --> 02:45:24,640 >> two parts. Yes. So, we have 3940 02:45:24,640 --> 02:45:26,319 recommendations that there's no fee in L 3941 02:45:26,319 --> 02:45:28,000 that it's a regular impact fee and that 3942 02:45:28,000 --> 02:45:30,240 the setbacks are as described by 3943 02:45:30,240 --> 02:45:32,240 >> So, to clarify, the fee in L is not an 3944 02:45:32,240 --> 02:45:34,080 impact fee. He'll already pay the impact 3945 02:45:34,080 --> 02:45:36,319 fee. It is a separate 3946 02:45:36,319 --> 02:45:38,080 >> but we rejected. We're recommending No, 3947 02:45:38,080 --> 02:45:39,600 we don't approve the fee in the 3948 02:45:39,600 --> 02:45:42,000 >> We're not We're not We're not waving. 3949 02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:43,760 >> Okay. We're not waving. [clears throat] 3950 02:45:43,760 --> 02:45:45,439 >> Yes. 3951 02:45:45,439 --> 02:45:47,120 >> Alicia, do you have that? 3952 02:45:47,120 --> 02:45:47,840 >> Did you get it? 3953 02:45:47,840 --> 02:45:49,520 >> I will definitely need to listen to the 3954 02:45:49,520 --> 02:45:51,920 recording for sure. 3955 02:45:51,920 --> 02:45:54,240 >> So, we have an amended motion by Council 3956 02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:56,000 Member Skinner. Is there a second? 3957 02:45:56,000 --> 02:45:56,720 >> I'll second. 3958 02:45:56,720 --> 02:45:58,720 >> A second by Council Member Dalton. All 3959 02:45:58,720 --> 02:46:01,680 in favor? I 3960 02:46:01,680 --> 02:46:07,110 >> Okay. 3961 02:46:07,120 --> 02:46:09,359 Item number 14, consideration of 3962 02:46:09,359 --> 02:46:11,760 resolution 2026-54 3963 02:46:11,760 --> 02:46:13,600 awarding the contract for the Apple 3964 02:46:13,600 --> 02:46:15,760 Street waterline replacement project to 3965 02:46:15,760 --> 02:46:18,640 Forge Industrial. 3966 02:46:18,640 --> 02:46:22,319 >> Uh, this was a CBDG grant. We do have to 3967 02:46:22,319 --> 02:46:23,840 go with the lowest bidder. The lowest 3968 02:46:23,840 --> 02:46:33,510 bidder was Forge at 273 $273,85310. 3969 02:46:33,520 --> 02:46:37,920 Um, and we need uh council approval and 3970 02:46:37,920 --> 02:46:39,600 then we'll go forward with 3971 02:46:39,600 --> 02:46:41,680 preconstruction 3972 02:46:41,680 --> 02:46:43,760 contracts 3973 02:46:43,760 --> 02:46:46,000 >> because this was that type of grant, a 3974 02:46:46,000 --> 02:46:47,920 CDBG grant. 3975 02:46:47,920 --> 02:46:50,319 >> Um, there was no pre-qualification 3976 02:46:50,319 --> 02:46:51,760 process for this project. Right. 3977 02:46:51,760 --> 02:46:53,600 Correct. just open to any bidder. 3978 02:46:53,600 --> 02:46:54,319 >> Correct. 3979 02:46:54,319 --> 02:46:58,080 >> So, have we ever had this um particular 3980 02:46:58,080 --> 02:46:59,840 company, Forge Industrial, do any work 3981 02:46:59,840 --> 02:47:00,479 for us? 3982 02:47:00,479 --> 02:47:03,359 >> No. Nope. But they had to be vetted by 3983 02:47:03,359 --> 02:47:06,399 the CBDG grant committee as well. 3984 02:47:06,399 --> 02:47:08,640 >> And they have done a similar project in 3985 02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:11,439 Ogden. 3986 02:47:11,439 --> 02:47:13,439 >> And Ogden was happy with the work that 3987 02:47:13,439 --> 02:47:14,479 was done or you don't know? 3988 02:47:14,479 --> 02:47:15,120 >> I don't know. 3989 02:47:15,120 --> 02:47:16,560 >> But they've done a similar project. 3990 02:47:16,560 --> 02:47:19,120 >> Yes. So they will have to deal with the 3991 02:47:19,120 --> 02:47:22,960 bacon Davis wages in the cabin. 3992 02:47:22,960 --> 02:47:30,710 >> Yeah. 3993 02:47:30,720 --> 02:47:32,800 » Obviously this project needs to be done. 3994 02:47:32,800 --> 02:47:34,560 >> Yes. 3995 02:47:34,560 --> 02:47:36,240 >> With more coming. So 3996 02:47:36,240 --> 02:47:39,670 >> short. [clears throat] 3997 02:47:39,680 --> 02:47:41,600 » Is there an estimated timeline as to 3998 02:47:41,600 --> 02:47:43,120 when they would be able to begin the 3999 02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:44,720 project? as soon as we can get a 4000 02:47:44,720 --> 02:47:46,319 contract in place and they can get the 4001 02:47:46,319 --> 02:47:48,479 bond to us. Will they? Yep. 4002 02:47:48,479 --> 02:47:50,240 >> So, will they hope to start this? 4003 02:47:50,240 --> 02:47:51,680 >> They wanted to start before you 4004 02:47:51,680 --> 02:47:53,439 approved. They're ready to start. 4005 02:47:53,439 --> 02:47:53,920 >> Okay. 4006 02:47:53,920 --> 02:47:56,479 >> But we won't let them start until we can 4007 02:47:56,479 --> 02:47:57,840 get everything in line. 4008 02:47:57,840 --> 02:47:59,040 >> So, they will have to provide a 4009 02:47:59,040 --> 02:48:02,240 performance and payment bond. 4010 02:48:02,240 --> 02:48:04,720 >> What parts of Apple Street is this for? 4011 02:48:04,720 --> 02:48:11,110 >> Only between Hell and Park Street. 4012 02:48:11,120 --> 02:48:15,990 Okay. Any 4013 02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:18,399 other questions? 4014 02:48:18,399 --> 02:48:19,279 >> Has something. 4015 02:48:19,279 --> 02:48:20,960 >> Yeah, 4016 02:48:20,960 --> 02:48:22,160 I'm worried about school. 4017 02:48:22,160 --> 02:48:24,240 >> Yeah, but so are they. And we are asking 4018 02:48:24,240 --> 02:48:26,960 them to start in the intersection. 4019 02:48:26,960 --> 02:48:28,319 So, they're aware 4020 02:48:28,319 --> 02:48:30,160 >> because that's a hot streak to go pick 4021 02:48:30,160 --> 02:48:31,600 up your kids. Now, my kids don't go to 4022 02:48:31,600 --> 02:48:32,960 that school anymore. They're [laughter] 4023 02:48:32,960 --> 02:48:35,120 graduating junior high. So, I'm just 4024 02:48:35,120 --> 02:48:36,399 teasing there. 4025 02:48:36,399 --> 02:48:39,279 >> But that's where we pick up the girls, 4026 02:48:39,279 --> 02:48:42,080 too. for the last 150 years. 4027 02:48:42,080 --> 02:48:45,840 >> Yeah. 4028 02:48:45,840 --> 02:48:48,640 >> Now you're showing your age. [laughter] 4029 02:48:48,640 --> 02:48:50,240 >> I don't know why the water line's going 4030 02:48:50,240 --> 02:48:50,800 bad, huh? 4031 02:48:50,800 --> 02:48:52,720 >> That's right. 4032 02:48:52,720 --> 02:48:54,560 >> Can we make it historic? 4033 02:48:54,560 --> 02:48:55,680 >> Yeah. [laughter] 4034 02:48:55,680 --> 02:48:56,319 >> No, this 4035 02:48:56,319 --> 02:48:58,479 >> Before the fire, we could have, but 4036 02:48:58,479 --> 02:49:00,172 >> this is part of the end. Sorry. 4037 02:49:00,172 --> 02:49:01,840 [laughter] 4038 02:49:01,840 --> 02:49:03,520 All right. Mayor, I make a motion we 4039 02:49:03,520 --> 02:49:06,960 approve resolution 2026-54 4040 02:49:06,960 --> 02:49:08,479 awarding the contract for the Apple 4041 02:49:08,479 --> 02:49:10,399 Street waterline replacement to Forge 4042 02:49:10,399 --> 02:49:12,080 Industrial. 4043 02:49:12,080 --> 02:49:13,520 >> We have a motion by Council Member 4044 02:49:13,520 --> 02:49:15,439 Butler. Is there a second? 4045 02:49:15,439 --> 02:49:16,240 >> Second. 4046 02:49:16,240 --> 02:49:16,880 >> Nope. Go ahead. 4047 02:49:16,880 --> 02:49:18,720 >> Second by Council Member Skinner. All in 4048 02:49:18,720 --> 02:49:19,359 favor? 4049 02:49:19,359 --> 02:49:22,560 >> I. So Christie, just tell me where are 4050 02:49:22,560 --> 02:49:24,880 they going to start the project to avoid 4051 02:49:24,880 --> 02:49:26,000 as much 4052 02:49:26,000 --> 02:49:27,439 >> Well, they will start at the 4053 02:49:27,439 --> 02:49:28,960 intersection because we are going 4054 02:49:28,960 --> 02:49:31,600 through the intersection at Park and 4055 02:49:31,600 --> 02:49:32,399 Apple Street. 4056 02:49:32,399 --> 02:49:33,120 >> Okay. 4057 02:49:33,120 --> 02:49:33,600 >> Oh boy. 4058 02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:34,720 >> So through the crosswalk. 4059 02:49:34,720 --> 02:49:36,160 >> Mhm. 4060 02:49:36,160 --> 02:49:38,880 >> To the south side of the school. 4061 02:49:38,880 --> 02:49:39,359 >> Okay. 4062 02:49:39,359 --> 02:49:40,880 >> And they're not going to be started 4063 02:49:40,880 --> 02:49:44,240 before school is in a month. They're not 4064 02:49:44,240 --> 02:49:46,960 going to be underway likely. 4065 02:49:46,960 --> 02:49:48,080 >> They might be able to get through that 4066 02:49:48,080 --> 02:49:51,680 intersection. Maybe [laughter] 4067 02:49:51,680 --> 02:49:53,439 >> we will do our best to get them out here 4068 02:49:53,439 --> 02:49:55,520 as fast as we can. Huh, Tyson? 4069 02:49:55,520 --> 02:49:57,157 >> Okay. 4070 02:49:57,157 --> 02:49:57,520 [laughter] 4071 02:49:57,520 --> 02:50:00,960 >> All right. Thank you. [clears throat] 4072 02:50:00,960 --> 02:50:03,920 >> Priority on the contract. 4073 02:50:03,920 --> 02:50:06,319 >> Agenda item number 15, consideration of 4074 02:50:06,319 --> 02:50:08,560 ordinance 2026-26 4075 02:50:08,560 --> 02:50:11,040 approving amendments to chapter 7-3 of 4076 02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:12,640 the Grantsville City Code regarding 4077 02:50:12,640 --> 02:50:15,120 definitions and regulations for cross 4078 02:50:15,120 --> 02:50:17,840 connections and dual source connections. 4079 02:50:17,840 --> 02:50:20,160 So this wording was changed under the 4080 02:50:20,160 --> 02:50:22,800 recommendation of the state to go from 4081 02:50:22,800 --> 02:50:25,120 we used to say the code used to say 4082 02:50:25,120 --> 02:50:27,040 swing joint and they want to change that 4083 02:50:27,040 --> 02:50:32,640 to dual soy d sorry slate dual source. 4084 02:50:32,640 --> 02:50:35,359 That was the main change in any of the 4085 02:50:35,359 --> 02:50:37,279 other little language they asked us to 4086 02:50:37,279 --> 02:50:49,429 change to be adopted into our code. 4087 02:50:49,439 --> 02:50:54,080 And this mainly is I mean obviously a 4088 02:50:54,080 --> 02:50:57,120 definition but the deeper part of this 4089 02:50:57,120 --> 02:51:01,680 is really someone improperly connecting 4090 02:51:01,680 --> 02:51:04,720 if I remember right city water to 4091 02:51:04,720 --> 02:51:06,720 secondary water. So anytime what we have 4092 02:51:06,720 --> 02:51:08,479 a situations is people have their 4093 02:51:08,479 --> 02:51:10,319 irrigation system and they want to use 4094 02:51:10,319 --> 02:51:12,880 both culinary water and irrigation so 4095 02:51:12,880 --> 02:51:14,720 that when irrigation turns off or 4096 02:51:14,720 --> 02:51:16,319 they've run out of gallons they can go 4097 02:51:16,319 --> 02:51:18,960 and use their culinary. So what you have 4098 02:51:18,960 --> 02:51:21,520 to have is what we say a dual source 4099 02:51:21,520 --> 02:51:24,000 connection which means you have a 4100 02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:26,720 physical disconnect. They can never be 4101 02:51:26,720 --> 02:51:28,960 connected at the same time. So you have 4102 02:51:28,960 --> 02:51:31,359 to disconnect from one, connect to the 4103 02:51:31,359 --> 02:51:33,200 other, and then you do have to have an 4104 02:51:33,200 --> 02:51:35,680 RP backflow pre 4105 02:51:35,680 --> 02:51:37,200 >> or an air check. 4106 02:51:37,200 --> 02:51:40,479 >> No, not just an air check. Has to be a 4107 02:51:40,479 --> 02:51:43,279 backflow pre. And since irrigation is 4108 02:51:43,279 --> 02:51:46,399 considered a hazard, it has to be 4109 02:51:46,399 --> 02:51:48,319 because of that potential. It has to be 4110 02:51:48,319 --> 02:51:52,560 a RP cannot be just the other ABV. AB 4111 02:51:52,560 --> 02:51:54,319 >> I say need for this because we do have 4112 02:51:54,319 --> 02:51:56,000 both and correct 4113 02:51:56,000 --> 02:51:58,240 >> and you know going through that. 4114 02:51:58,240 --> 02:52:00,800 >> We we have stopped one this year in fact 4115 02:52:00,800 --> 02:52:03,439 where we turned irrigation turned their 4116 02:52:03,439 --> 02:52:06,399 water off until they could show that 4117 02:52:06,399 --> 02:52:07,920 they had RP. 4118 02:52:07,920 --> 02:52:08,880 >> I had one on my 4119 02:52:08,880 --> 02:52:10,080 >> they installed an RP 4120 02:52:10,080 --> 02:52:11,359 >> here in Gransville. I had one on my 4121 02:52:11,359 --> 02:52:11,680 first 4122 02:52:11,680 --> 02:52:12,800 >> and then found out they don't have 4123 02:52:12,800 --> 02:52:14,160 irrigation 4124 02:52:14,160 --> 02:52:16,019 >> and never used the connection. I never 4125 02:52:16,019 --> 02:52:19,439 [laughter] I had manual Yeah. disconnect 4126 02:52:19,439 --> 02:52:22,160 on the irrigation on the city side. I 4127 02:52:22,160 --> 02:52:24,319 had the 4128 02:52:24,319 --> 02:52:27,600 >> air check is what was required then when 4129 02:52:27,600 --> 02:52:30,399 I when I house was built 4130 02:52:30,399 --> 02:52:33,359 >> 20 almost 20 years ago. 4131 02:52:33,359 --> 02:52:35,359 >> So 4132 02:52:35,359 --> 02:52:37,040 >> okay, 4133 02:52:37,040 --> 02:52:39,040 >> but this is just housekeeping. 4134 02:52:39,040 --> 02:52:39,520 >> Correct. 4135 02:52:39,520 --> 02:52:41,920 >> Yeah. So, I make a motion we approve 4136 02:52:41,920 --> 02:52:44,560 ordinance 2026-26 4137 02:52:44,560 --> 02:52:47,120 approving the amendment to chapter 7-3 4138 02:52:47,120 --> 02:52:49,120 of the Gransville City Code regarding 4139 02:52:49,120 --> 02:52:50,880 definitions and regulations for cross 4140 02:52:50,880 --> 02:52:54,080 connections and dual source connections. 4141 02:52:54,080 --> 02:52:55,520 >> We have a motion by council member 4142 02:52:55,520 --> 02:52:57,520 Butler. Is there a second? 4143 02:52:57,520 --> 02:52:58,319 >> I second. 4144 02:52:58,319 --> 02:53:00,319 >> Second by council member Thomas. All in 4145 02:53:00,319 --> 02:53:01,200 favor? 4146 02:53:01,200 --> 02:53:02,160 >> I. 4147 02:53:02,160 --> 02:53:07,590 >> Thank you. 4148 02:53:07,600 --> 02:53:09,840 » Okay. Okay. Agenda item number 16, 4149 02:53:09,840 --> 02:53:12,880 council reports. Let's start with rep. 4150 02:53:12,880 --> 02:53:15,439 We've gone over a lot of yours with the 4151 02:53:15,439 --> 02:53:15,680 district. 4152 02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:18,800 >> Well, I I mean, I think Ala took care 4153 02:53:18,800 --> 02:53:20,640 of, you know, really what we've been 4154 02:53:20,640 --> 02:53:23,600 working on as a historic preservation 4155 02:53:23,600 --> 02:53:29,359 commission and you know, appreciate her basic report and I think we're 4156 02:53:29,359 --> 02:53:32,160 excited to create a potentially create a 4157 02:53:32,160 --> 02:53:34,479 historic district. 4158 02:53:34,479 --> 02:53:36,080 Congrats. 4159 02:53:36,080 --> 02:53:37,760 We talked a lot about just that that 4160 02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:39,840 area and I think it's important for us 4161 02:53:39,840 --> 02:53:41,920 to to designate that that'll help some 4162 02:53:41,920 --> 02:53:43,920 of those homeowners down the road 4163 02:53:43,920 --> 02:53:46,640 >> to be able to do some of the restoration 4164 02:53:46,640 --> 02:53:48,319 projects that they they'd like they'd 4165 02:53:48,319 --> 02:53:50,160 like to do. 4166 02:53:50,160 --> 02:53:53,600 >> It has hindered us not especially with 4167 02:53:53,600 --> 02:53:56,720 the grants first award. 4168 02:53:56,720 --> 02:53:57,600 >> Yeah. 4169 02:53:57,600 --> 02:53:58,960 >> They haven't been able to get those 4170 02:53:58,960 --> 02:54:00,800 grants because it's not designated as 4171 02:54:00,800 --> 02:54:02,560 historic preservation 4172 02:54:02,560 --> 02:54:06,160 >> district. So that home is now included 4173 02:54:06,160 --> 02:54:09,040 in that potential area. 4174 02:54:09,040 --> 02:54:11,920 >> Okay. 4175 02:54:11,920 --> 02:54:15,600 >> All right. Great. Jake, 4176 02:54:15,600 --> 02:54:18,710 um, [clears throat] 4177 02:54:18,720 --> 02:54:20,240 uh, Veterans Park, I'll hit on that 4178 02:54:20,240 --> 02:54:21,840 really quick. The first first phase of 4179 02:54:21,840 --> 02:54:25,600 that is complete has been completed. Um, 4180 02:54:25,600 --> 02:54:28,640 and so you can walk that and see kind of 4181 02:54:28,640 --> 02:54:31,439 what that entailed. Um, 4182 02:54:31,439 --> 02:54:32,960 know a lot of people have had eyes on 4183 02:54:32,960 --> 02:54:35,920 it. uh the 4184 02:54:35,920 --> 02:54:39,200 uh meeting that we had yesterday uh 4185 02:54:39,200 --> 02:54:42,399 regarding that. Um they've got the new 4186 02:54:42,399 --> 02:54:45,120 they have a the bronze monument that 4187 02:54:45,120 --> 02:54:50,160 will go there. They have the first um 4188 02:54:50,160 --> 02:54:51,920 miniaturaturized I don't know the right 4189 02:54:51,920 --> 02:54:54,640 word small sample of that. gonna make a 4190 02:54:54,640 --> 02:54:59,279 limited amount of those. And so, um, 4191 02:54:59,279 --> 02:55:01,520 anyway, um, it sounds like they're gonna 4192 02:55:01,520 --> 02:55:03,600 bring that to the city and have it here 4193 02:55:03,600 --> 02:55:05,760 at the city hall so people can see. 4194 02:55:05,760 --> 02:55:09,040 >> Do you know how much they were able to 4195 02:55:09,040 --> 02:55:10,800 raise on the 4th of July for the 4196 02:55:10,800 --> 02:55:12,880 Veterans Park? 4197 02:55:12,880 --> 02:55:14,880 >> Um, we went through some of the 4198 02:55:14,880 --> 02:55:19,040 finances. Um, they had the the cornhole 4199 02:55:19,040 --> 02:55:22,560 portion. Um, and I know I want to say 4200 02:55:22,560 --> 02:55:25,840 several thousand that was what was 4201 02:55:25,840 --> 02:55:28,479 covered on that specifically. Um, 4202 02:55:28,479 --> 02:55:29,040 they've had 4203 02:55:29,040 --> 02:55:30,240 >> raffle and yeah 4204 02:55:30,240 --> 02:55:32,960 >> raffle and they've had they had a larger 4205 02:55:32,960 --> 02:55:38,479 donation. Um, and so I know their um, 4206 02:55:38,479 --> 02:55:40,399 treasurer was going to meet and 4207 02:55:40,399 --> 02:55:46,479 specifically go through all of that with our group um, and see kind of where 4208 02:55:46,479 --> 02:55:48,720 we where we sit, where we landed as far 4209 02:55:48,720 --> 02:55:50,800 as the financing of the first phase and 4210 02:55:50,800 --> 02:55:53,200 how that landed within budget. 4211 02:55:53,200 --> 02:55:54,880 >> This probably is a question you can't 4212 02:55:54,880 --> 02:55:57,120 answer, but 4213 02:55:57,120 --> 02:55:59,680 what is needed for phase two? 4214 02:55:59,680 --> 02:56:01,760 >> So, I think the next portion or or I 4215 02:56:01,760 --> 02:56:05,269 think the next push 4216 02:56:05,279 --> 02:56:11,760 um is to get is to get to grass. So um 4217 02:56:11,760 --> 02:56:15,200 get the irrigation system in top soil. 4218 02:56:15,200 --> 02:56:17,760 There was a request for you know as the 4219 02:56:17,760 --> 02:56:21,600 city would be willing to to some of that 4220 02:56:21,600 --> 02:56:24,640 top soil that was peeled out and and 4221 02:56:24,640 --> 02:56:26,479 been separated for the other park to see 4222 02:56:26,479 --> 02:56:28,880 if they could utilize some of that 4223 02:56:28,880 --> 02:56:30,800 >> and just get it to grass this year. If 4224 02:56:30,800 --> 02:56:33,200 they could do that then I think gets us 4225 02:56:33,200 --> 02:56:37,200 a great surface that's irrigated and um 4226 02:56:37,200 --> 02:56:40,160 then then they can go into you know 4227 02:56:40,160 --> 02:56:43,200 landscaping and 4228 02:56:43,200 --> 02:56:46,240 uh flagples and the more probably the 4229 02:56:46,240 --> 02:56:48,080 more expensive portion which is the 4230 02:56:48,080 --> 02:56:52,000 statue. Um we we got some pre the 4231 02:56:52,000 --> 02:56:54,960 preliminary costs on that and 4232 02:56:54,960 --> 02:56:58,080 um he's maintained that he will keep 4233 02:56:58,080 --> 02:57:00,560 that cost but the statue itself is going 4234 02:57:00,560 --> 02:57:02,240 to be 4235 02:57:02,240 --> 02:57:07,200 $200,000. So um so that cost and then 4236 02:57:07,200 --> 02:57:10,720 the granite costs for the walls is where 4237 02:57:10,720 --> 02:57:12,479 but they are seeing a lot a lot of 4238 02:57:12,479 --> 02:57:14,479 momentum which is good as far as the 4239 02:57:14,479 --> 02:57:16,240 bricks and people purchasing the bricks 4240 02:57:16,240 --> 02:57:19,439 and then getting donations. Um, I think 4241 02:57:19,439 --> 02:57:21,439 it's good. Um, they were very 4242 02:57:21,439 --> 02:57:26,160 appreciative of the city. Um, and and 4243 02:57:26,160 --> 02:57:28,720 made some comments regarding and I'll 4244 02:57:28,720 --> 02:57:31,359 let I'll let them bring those comments 4245 02:57:31,359 --> 02:57:34,399 to the to the council and to the city. 4246 02:57:34,399 --> 02:57:36,720 Um, I don't want to spoil any thunder 4247 02:57:36,720 --> 02:57:38,160 there, but they've they've been very 4248 02:57:38,160 --> 02:57:41,439 appreciative in that setting um with 4249 02:57:41,439 --> 02:57:43,680 what the city has done to to get us to 4250 02:57:43,680 --> 02:57:45,680 this point. And I think it's creating 4251 02:57:45,680 --> 02:57:49,120 some momentum that's it's helping push 4252 02:57:49,120 --> 02:57:50,640 it push it further along. 4253 02:57:50,640 --> 02:57:53,920 >> There's a pile of soil, whatever we want 4254 02:57:53,920 --> 02:57:55,520 to classify that as sitting in the 4255 02:57:55,520 --> 02:57:58,160 middle of it. Is is there It was my 4256 02:57:58,160 --> 02:58:00,399 understanding that maybe somebody had 4257 02:58:00,399 --> 02:58:02,720 volunteered to come in and do the earth 4258 02:58:02,720 --> 02:58:04,479 work there to flatten that out. Do you 4259 02:58:04,479 --> 02:58:05,120 know anything? 4260 02:58:05,120 --> 02:58:06,560 >> Yeah. So I think the next phase would be 4261 02:58:06,560 --> 02:58:08,000 getting the irrigation in. 4262 02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:12,560 >> Okay. And so um 4263 02:58:12,560 --> 02:58:14,880 yeah, so that would be the second phase 4264 02:58:14,880 --> 02:58:16,399 because in the first phase we didn't 4265 02:58:16,399 --> 02:58:19,520 have funding for that. So based on some 4266 02:58:19,520 --> 02:58:21,120 questions that I don't know as far as if 4267 02:58:21,120 --> 02:58:23,200 there were any change orders or how that 4268 02:58:23,200 --> 02:58:25,279 a lot allotted with the actual contract 4269 02:58:25,279 --> 02:58:28,720 price. Um I have walked it. It's and I 4270 02:58:28,720 --> 02:58:32,800 know Barry's been um very connected with 4271 02:58:32,800 --> 02:58:34,960 that and 4272 02:58:34,960 --> 02:58:37,120 um 4273 02:58:37,120 --> 02:58:39,279 and communicating that back to the 4274 02:58:39,279 --> 02:58:40,800 committee and I know that's been very 4275 02:58:40,800 --> 02:58:43,680 appreciated at least that was uh 4276 02:58:43,680 --> 02:58:46,960 mentioned. So, so yeah, getting to that 4277 02:58:46,960 --> 02:58:49,840 next part, which I think is just getting 4278 02:58:49,840 --> 02:58:52,240 the ground level and getting it in a 4279 02:58:52,240 --> 02:58:54,160 situation where we we could have a flag 4280 02:58:54,160 --> 02:58:56,479 raising ceremony there, even if we 4281 02:58:56,479 --> 02:58:57,439 didn't have some of those other 4282 02:58:57,439 --> 02:58:59,040 components, and then and then focusing 4283 02:58:59,040 --> 02:59:01,200 on what the next phase would be. So, 4284 02:59:01,200 --> 02:59:05,040 which would be the last phase, which 4285 02:59:05,040 --> 02:59:07,279 would be the most expensive portion. So, 4286 02:59:07,279 --> 02:59:09,840 yeah. Anyway, 4287 02:59:09,840 --> 02:59:13,840 um we we did have a meeting with the 4288 02:59:13,840 --> 02:59:16,160 school district uh regarding resolution 4289 02:59:16,160 --> 02:59:20,560 on the um 4290 02:59:20,560 --> 02:59:24,319 park and and getting aou in place with 4291 02:59:24,319 --> 02:59:28,160 the school district. Desire is to get an 4292 02:59:28,160 --> 02:59:30,560 short-term agreement in place with the 4293 02:59:30,560 --> 02:59:32,640 possibility of understanding what 4294 02:59:32,640 --> 02:59:34,880 long-term 4295 02:59:34,880 --> 02:59:36,960 solution we can have in place for that. 4296 02:59:36,960 --> 02:59:39,680 There'll be more to come on that. Um, 4297 02:59:39,680 --> 02:59:44,240 and I'm happy to to share what what's 4298 02:59:44,240 --> 02:59:46,479 been discussed there, but um, the desire 4299 02:59:46,479 --> 02:59:48,640 is to work together to find a solution 4300 02:59:48,640 --> 02:59:50,880 that works for the kids and that works 4301 02:59:50,880 --> 02:59:54,560 better for the the city. Um, and then 4302 02:59:54,560 --> 02:59:56,800 looking for whatever the long-term 4303 02:59:56,800 --> 02:59:59,840 solution is going to be there. So, 4304 02:59:59,840 --> 03:00:02,319 um I don't know if there's any more I 4305 03:00:02,319 --> 03:00:04,560 need to report on that there 4306 03:00:04,560 --> 03:00:07,760 specifically, but that's that's ongoing. 4307 03:00:07,760 --> 03:00:10,000 And 4308 03:00:10,000 --> 03:00:13,120 I think that's it for the items I had. 4309 03:00:13,120 --> 03:00:15,760 >> Okay. Thank you, 4310 03:00:15,760 --> 03:00:16,720 Derek. 4311 03:00:16,720 --> 03:00:18,720 >> Um I had a few things, but I left my 4312 03:00:18,720 --> 03:00:20,319 notebook at home and I know we have a 4313 03:00:20,319 --> 03:00:22,399 close session after this, so I'll just 4314 03:00:22,399 --> 03:00:24,160 wait for next week. But I do want to say 4315 03:00:24,160 --> 03:00:27,279 like um the city did amazing job for the 4316 03:00:27,279 --> 03:00:30,319 4th of July. Um public works did awesome 4317 03:00:30,319 --> 03:00:32,560 and Colton was that who came and picked 4318 03:00:32,560 --> 03:00:35,520 up our tent every night. Um was awesome. 4319 03:00:35,520 --> 03:00:36,960 So I want to thank I think Christiey's 4320 03:00:36,960 --> 03:00:39,680 gone but thank them and Colton. And one 4321 03:00:39,680 --> 03:00:41,920 suggestion that I had that might help 4322 03:00:41,920 --> 03:00:44,560 with the memorial park and I, you know, 4323 03:00:44,560 --> 03:00:45,760 told a couple of you guys when I was 4324 03:00:45,760 --> 03:00:47,200 cooking a hot dog next year or whatever, 4325 03:00:47,200 --> 03:00:49,439 but is I had a lot of people ask how 4326 03:00:49,439 --> 03:00:51,840 much they were or can we give a donation 4327 03:00:51,840 --> 03:00:53,200 or do something because they didn't want 4328 03:00:53,200 --> 03:00:54,960 to just take a free hot dog and I 4329 03:00:54,960 --> 03:01:02,240 thought maybe we pick a cause or pick a something and we can have a donation 4330 03:01:02,240 --> 03:01:03,600 that, you know, maybe they do. I don't 4331 03:01:03,600 --> 03:01:05,600 know what the legality is on all that, 4332 03:01:05,600 --> 03:01:07,359 but a lot of people were willing to help 4333 03:01:07,359 --> 03:01:08,800 and wanted to do something for the 4334 03:01:08,800 --> 03:01:10,880 community. So, just an idea we might 4335 03:01:10,880 --> 03:01:13,120 think about for for next next Fourth of 4336 03:01:13,120 --> 03:01:14,800 July. 4337 03:01:14,800 --> 03:01:17,200 >> Just make that an option for people to 4338 03:01:17,200 --> 03:01:20,479 leave something if they wanted to. 4339 03:01:20,479 --> 03:01:21,439 >> All right. Thanks. 4340 03:01:21,439 --> 03:01:23,120 >> I don't have an update. We only have the 4341 03:01:23,120 --> 03:01:24,399 board of health every other month. So, 4342 03:01:24,399 --> 03:01:25,920 our meetings at the end of this month. 4343 03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:29,040 So, I will let you know when it's time. 4344 03:01:29,040 --> 03:01:31,840 Um, I don't. And we have another 4345 03:01:31,840 --> 03:01:35,279 mosquito bait meeting last night. 4346 03:01:35,279 --> 03:01:37,040 I've got all the stats of what they've 4347 03:01:37,040 --> 03:01:41,680 done. I mean, it's dry. We don't even talk about 4348 03:01:41,680 --> 03:01:42,479 mosquitoes. 4349 03:01:42,479 --> 03:01:44,399 >> I haven't had a single mosquito bites 4350 03:01:44,399 --> 03:01:44,720 all year. 4351 03:01:44,720 --> 03:01:45,840 >> Crazy. 4352 03:01:45,840 --> 03:01:47,439 >> Yeah. When I bring it up, they trap 4353 03:01:47,439 --> 03:01:52,479 2,000 mosquitoes down by the sewer plant 4354 03:01:52,479 --> 03:01:54,399 just this month. And they do all kinds 4355 03:01:54,399 --> 03:01:57,439 of tests on them. It's just crazy. 87 4356 03:01:57,439 --> 03:02:00,800 West Nile cases and none in Tua County. 4357 03:02:00,800 --> 03:02:02,080 So that's good. 4358 03:02:02,080 --> 03:02:04,080 >> That is that is a good thing. 4359 03:02:04,080 --> 03:02:07,279 >> It's been kind of like sparse this year. 4360 03:02:07,279 --> 03:02:07,840 >> Good, 4361 03:02:07,840 --> 03:02:10,319 >> but it hasn't been wet either, right? 4362 03:02:10,319 --> 03:02:12,000 >> So I think it's makes it a lot easier 4363 03:02:12,000 --> 03:02:14,080 when there's less water, right? So 4364 03:02:14,080 --> 03:02:16,479 that's going fine. Irrigation meeting, 4365 03:02:16,479 --> 03:02:17,760 they cancelled their meeting at the 4366 03:02:17,760 --> 03:02:19,439 first month, but we did have a meeting 4367 03:02:19,439 --> 03:02:22,399 with it that I missed. Sorry I missed 4368 03:02:22,399 --> 03:02:26,080 that on Monday. Um, so I don't have any 4369 03:02:26,080 --> 03:02:28,399 to report there. 4370 03:02:28,399 --> 03:02:29,520 >> All right. Thank you. 4371 03:02:29,520 --> 03:02:30,960 >> Can I just make one other comment just 4372 03:02:30,960 --> 03:02:32,560 about the Fourth of July? 4373 03:02:32,560 --> 03:02:34,880 >> Um, and it's I mean an article that I 4374 03:02:34,880 --> 03:02:37,040 read just about Salt Lake City and Salt 4375 03:02:37,040 --> 03:02:43,359 Lake County and I'll just parlay it to our town. Um, I was really impressed 4376 03:02:43,359 --> 03:02:49,520 with our citizens and their adherence to 4377 03:02:49,520 --> 03:02:51,680 um our request to not let off fireworks. 4378 03:02:51,680 --> 03:02:54,640 I mean, it was absolutely amazing. 4379 03:02:54,640 --> 03:02:55,200 I mean, 4380 03:02:55,200 --> 03:02:57,439 >> I was extremely impressed with that as 4381 03:02:57,439 --> 03:02:59,359 well. Yeah. 4382 03:02:59,359 --> 03:03:02,319 >> And I'm I'm pretty proud of of of our 4383 03:03:02,319 --> 03:03:04,560 citizens for, you know, adhering to 4384 03:03:04,560 --> 03:03:05,920 that. So, 4385 03:03:05,920 --> 03:03:08,960 >> did did you have any calls or 4386 03:03:08,960 --> 03:03:10,319 >> dozen about a dozen 4387 03:03:10,319 --> 03:03:12,640 >> which is very 4388 03:03:12,640 --> 03:03:15,359 >> But did you have did you write any 4389 03:03:15,359 --> 03:03:16,560 citations? 4390 03:03:16,560 --> 03:03:18,080 >> Not that I don't think so. 4391 03:03:18,080 --> 03:03:19,840 >> Yes. 4392 03:03:19,840 --> 03:03:22,800 >> Yeah. It was impressive. So, too, 4393 03:03:22,800 --> 03:03:24,560 >> nobody wanted to have to take that away, 4394 03:03:24,560 --> 03:03:26,080 but it was the right thing for this 4395 03:03:26,080 --> 03:03:29,040 year. And appreciate 4396 03:03:29,040 --> 03:03:30,880 >> people. We had a dozen. Salt Lake City 4397 03:03:30,880 --> 03:03:32,640 only had one call. I read an article 4398 03:03:32,640 --> 03:03:34,080 >> really the Salt Lake City Police 4399 03:03:34,080 --> 03:03:39,840 Department. They had one one call and I I might have heard a few light off 4400 03:03:39,840 --> 03:03:42,720 just right after ours, but it was 4401 03:03:42,720 --> 03:03:45,920 minimal compared to what it is normally 4402 03:03:45,920 --> 03:03:49,040 during a a year. So, yep. 4403 03:03:49,040 --> 03:03:51,359 >> I remembered one other thing. I'm sorry. 4404 03:03:51,359 --> 03:03:53,520 At some point, we need to circle back to 4405 03:03:53,520 --> 03:03:56,000 the Clark Farm and property. our 4406 03:03:56,000 --> 03:03:59,920 property behind the Clark Farm is to 4407 03:03:59,920 --> 03:04:04,870 um we still have the 4408 03:04:04,880 --> 03:04:06,399 um 4409 03:04:06,399 --> 03:04:09,920 4HFA kids wanting to build some type of 4410 03:04:09,920 --> 03:04:12,800 agriculture facility there 4411 03:04:12,800 --> 03:04:15,200 and really are wanting some type of 4412 03:04:15,200 --> 03:04:17,359 direction from us if that's a go or no 4413 03:04:17,359 --> 03:04:20,000 go or a possibility. I realize we're 4414 03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:22,000 kind of missing the pretty picture 4415 03:04:22,000 --> 03:04:23,680 phase, 4416 03:04:23,680 --> 03:04:26,080 but I mean, I don't even know at this 4417 03:04:26,080 --> 03:04:27,760 point we're pretty distorted. Are we 4418 03:04:27,760 --> 03:04:31,760 just keeping that the views open? And 4419 03:04:31,760 --> 03:04:33,760 >> I I talked with them this week. 4420 03:04:33,760 --> 03:04:34,240 >> Okay. 4421 03:04:34,240 --> 03:04:37,120 >> And and I said, "What I would really 4422 03:04:37,120 --> 03:04:40,160 like from from you is draw me a picture 4423 03:04:40,160 --> 03:04:44,240 of what this is. This is the FFA group." 4424 03:04:44,240 --> 03:04:45,200 That's correct. 4425 03:04:45,200 --> 03:04:47,040 >> Kind of put me together a little map of 4426 03:04:47,040 --> 03:04:49,279 what you see. And then I feel like the 4427 03:04:49,279 --> 03:04:51,439 Clark Farm should do the same thing. And 4428 03:04:51,439 --> 03:04:53,279 they both may need to give just a little 4429 03:04:53,279 --> 03:04:55,600 bit in order to be, you know, make both 4430 03:04:55,600 --> 03:04:58,240 entities have a successful 4431 03:04:58,240 --> 03:04:58,800 >> something 4432 03:04:58,800 --> 03:05:01,040 >> vision of what that area could look 4433 03:05:01,040 --> 03:05:03,840 like. But that's what I'm waiting for. 4434 03:05:03,840 --> 03:05:06,240 >> Yeah. I I just feel that too. We need 4435 03:05:06,240 --> 03:05:09,920 some type of pres presentation of a the 4436 03:05:09,920 --> 03:05:12,800 pretty picture. What could be or what I 4437 03:05:12,800 --> 03:05:15,439 mean? I think it could all work, but 4438 03:05:15,439 --> 03:05:16,479 we're just spinning. 4439 03:05:16,479 --> 03:05:19,920 >> I think that they are both um 4440 03:05:19,920 --> 03:05:21,600 if I'm understanding this right, they 4441 03:05:21,600 --> 03:05:23,279 both have ideas and they're not 4442 03:05:23,279 --> 03:05:25,600 necessarily communicating them to each 4443 03:05:25,600 --> 03:05:27,920 other or worrying too much about the 4444 03:05:27,920 --> 03:05:30,080 little details. Whereas if they would 4445 03:05:30,080 --> 03:05:33,439 both just get us a and the city at some 4446 03:05:33,439 --> 03:05:35,200 point just has to make a decision and 4447 03:05:35,200 --> 03:05:39,439 say this is what we're doing and this is 4448 03:05:39,439 --> 03:05:41,040 where we want to move forward and these 4449 03:05:41,040 --> 03:05:43,680 are the options that you will have to to 4450 03:05:43,680 --> 03:05:46,160 do. So I'm waiting for them to bring 4451 03:05:46,160 --> 03:05:48,319 those back to me. So hopefully they do 4452 03:05:48,319 --> 03:05:50,160 that sooner than later. I know on 4453 03:05:50,160 --> 03:05:54,319 Wednesdays now they have the um 4454 03:05:54,319 --> 03:05:57,279 farmers market and and the people have 4455 03:05:57,279 --> 03:06:01,279 been encouraged. I that area kind of is 4456 03:06:01,279 --> 03:06:03,200 starting to get that you know it's has 4457 03:06:03,200 --> 03:06:06,000 that natural feel from what what it is 4458 03:06:06,000 --> 03:06:08,720 but also like I thought that was a great 4459 03:06:08,720 --> 03:06:10,399 that would be a great addition to what 4460 03:06:10,399 --> 03:06:13,040 happens at that you know having farmers 4461 03:06:13,040 --> 03:06:14,560 market over there every Wednesday. I 4462 03:06:14,560 --> 03:06:15,840 know we've been encouraged to go check 4463 03:06:15,840 --> 03:06:18,160 it out. It's gaining a little bit of 4464 03:06:18,160 --> 03:06:21,120 momentum from what I hear. Um, 4465 03:06:21,120 --> 03:06:23,680 >> obviously it was hard year for farmers. 4466 03:06:23,680 --> 03:06:24,160 >> Yeah. 4467 03:06:24,160 --> 03:06:26,080 >> For all the right, you know, reasons, 4468 03:06:26,080 --> 03:06:29,359 especially growers and the freezes that 4469 03:06:29,359 --> 03:06:31,920 we had that killed peaches and every 4470 03:06:31,920 --> 03:06:34,160 cherries and everything else. So, but 4471 03:06:34,160 --> 03:06:36,399 um, encourage people to go to to go to 4472 03:06:36,399 --> 03:06:38,720 that. Um, I think that's an extension of 4473 03:06:38,720 --> 03:06:41,439 what's happening down there. And 4474 03:06:41,439 --> 03:06:42,240 >> I mean, we've got 4475 03:06:42,240 --> 03:06:43,520 >> incorporate into that 4476 03:06:43,520 --> 03:06:44,080 >> we've got to 4477 03:06:44,080 --> 03:06:44,880 >> what it is 4478 03:06:44,880 --> 03:06:46,640 >> protect the city and be able to expand 4479 03:06:46,640 --> 03:06:49,279 the cemetery if we ever need to. 4480 03:06:49,279 --> 03:06:52,640 >> I mean, I love the area to walk through. 4481 03:06:52,640 --> 03:06:55,920 I mean, this is my area, but I think it 4482 03:06:55,920 --> 03:06:58,080 all could be done. I just don't know how 4483 03:06:58,080 --> 03:07:00,960 to get it all done. So, 4484 03:07:00,960 --> 03:07:03,920 >> right. We need a vision. We need a plan 4485 03:07:03,920 --> 03:07:04,960 and a vision. 4486 03:07:04,960 --> 03:07:07,520 >> Yeah. 4487 03:07:07,520 --> 03:07:09,359 >> So, yeah. Thanks, Jeff, for bringing 4488 03:07:09,359 --> 03:07:12,319 that up. Um, again, thank you to 4489 03:07:12,319 --> 03:07:14,080 everybody for the Fourth of July. 4490 03:07:14,080 --> 03:07:16,479 Police, fire, public works, all city 4491 03:07:16,479 --> 03:07:20,080 staff, city council. I hope you've all 4492 03:07:20,080 --> 03:07:21,760 recovered and have not had a single hot 4493 03:07:21,760 --> 03:07:22,880 dog since. 4494 03:07:22,880 --> 03:07:24,399 >> It was fun. It was my first time. It was 4495 03:07:24,399 --> 03:07:26,000 fun. And you did. Heidi did amazing 4496 03:07:26,000 --> 03:07:27,840 work. The mayor was at every place I 4497 03:07:27,840 --> 03:07:29,520 was, she was. And I wasn't even that 4498 03:07:29,520 --> 03:07:31,840 many places. So, and I saw her doing the 4499 03:07:31,840 --> 03:07:33,359 >> It was a long flag. 4500 03:07:33,359 --> 03:07:34,880 >> Yes. [laughter] 4501 03:07:34,880 --> 03:07:37,520 But, but it was great. And I've had so 4502 03:07:37,520 --> 03:07:40,640 many positive comments come back to the 4503 03:07:40,640 --> 03:07:42,399 city 4504 03:07:42,399 --> 03:07:44,560 thankful for all the efforts that go 4505 03:07:44,560 --> 03:07:46,560 into the 4th of July and they people do 4506 03:07:46,560 --> 03:07:48,399 notice it and they appreciate it. So 4507 03:07:48,399 --> 03:07:50,479 thank you to all of to everybody in this 4508 03:07:50,479 --> 03:07:53,840 room for making that successful. Um the 4509 03:07:53,840 --> 03:07:55,760 girls summit reminding you of that on 4510 03:07:55,760 --> 03:07:59,520 August 3rd. Um so keep that in your 4511 03:07:59,520 --> 03:08:01,600 thoughts about attending. 4512 03:08:01,600 --> 03:08:03,279 >> Will we have more than three at that? Do 4513 03:08:03,279 --> 03:08:05,279 we need to notice for that? 4514 03:08:05,279 --> 03:08:06,319 >> Okay. 4515 03:08:06,319 --> 03:08:09,040 And I think the RCP deadline's tomorrow. 4516 03:08:09,040 --> 03:08:10,160 >> I've told them 4517 03:08:10,160 --> 03:08:11,600 >> the 16th. At least that's what they 4518 03:08:11,600 --> 03:08:11,840 said. 4519 03:08:11,840 --> 03:08:14,000 >> Jeff, you said you were unable to come. 4520 03:08:14,000 --> 03:08:15,680 >> Yeah, everybody else is still planning 4521 03:08:15,680 --> 03:08:16,640 to attend. 4522 03:08:16,640 --> 03:08:17,279 >> Okay. 4523 03:08:17,279 --> 03:08:18,960 So, that's what I that's the 4524 03:08:18,960 --> 03:08:20,800 information I gave them. 4525 03:08:20,800 --> 03:08:24,720 >> So, uh the inter the question we had the 4526 03:08:24,720 --> 03:08:26,640 very first speaker of our public comment 4527 03:08:26,640 --> 03:08:29,600 about the internet on Vegas Street. 4528 03:08:29,600 --> 03:08:31,760 Is there any city staff that can help? 4529 03:08:31,760 --> 03:08:34,000 Yeah, we're already working through uh 4530 03:08:34,000 --> 03:08:35,600 options for that kind of stuff and I'll 4531 03:08:35,600 --> 03:08:36,479 take that on. 4532 03:08:36,479 --> 03:08:38,560 >> Okay. 4533 03:08:38,560 --> 03:08:41,760 All right. Um I can't handle much more 4534 03:08:41,760 --> 03:08:43,359 of the beeping, so we're going to wrap 4535 03:08:43,359 --> 03:08:45,200 this up. 4536 03:08:45,200 --> 03:08:45,840 >> So, 4537 03:08:45,840 --> 03:08:48,080 >> I can't even hear it anymore. [laughter] 4538 03:08:48,080 --> 03:08:49,279 >> It's like my head. 4539 03:08:49,279 --> 03:08:50,960 >> Thank you to all the city staff that's 4540 03:08:50,960 --> 03:08:53,920 been here today for all of your help. We 4541 03:08:53,920 --> 03:08:56,240 do appreciate you. So, thank you so 4542 03:08:56,240 --> 03:08:57,520 much. 4543 03:08:57,520 --> 03:08:59,520 And with that, I need someone to make a 4544 03:08:59,520 --> 03:09:02,319 motion to go into a close session. 4545 03:09:02,319 --> 03:09:04,640 >> Make a motion to go into close session. 4546 03:09:04,640 --> 03:09:06,560 >> I'll second. We have a motion and a 4547 03:09:06,560 --> 03:09:07,920 second. All in favor? 4548 03:09:07,920 --> 03:09:12,389 >> I 4549 03:09:12,399 --> 03:09:14,319 We already 4550 03:09:14,319 --> 03:09:15,279 did. 4551 03:09:15,279 --> 03:09:18,520 >> Thank you.