1 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:17,560 Ready, Alicia? >> Mhm. 2 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,600 » Okay. Welcome everybody. We're glad to see you 3 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:25,400 here to join us tonight. Tonight is a truth in taxation public 4 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:31,440 hearing meeting of the Grantsville City Council. For the record, today's date is 5 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:34,240 August 5th, 2026, and the time is 7:00 p.m. 6 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,760 This meeting is being held at the Grantsville City Council Chambers 7 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:42,400 located at 429 East Main Street in Grantsville, Utah, as well as 8 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,640 electronically by Zoom. I am Mayor Heidi Hammond, and I will 9 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,480 conduct a roll call of our council members. Council member Butler. 10 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,600 » Here. >> Dalton. 11 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,840 » Here. >> Skinner. 12 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,000 » Here. >> Thomas. 13 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,720 » Here. >> Williams. 14 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,720 » Here. >> Thank you. If everyone would please 15 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:01,231 stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 16 00:01:59,211 --> 00:02:01,231 » [clears throat] 17 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:13,240 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 18 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:19,516 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 19 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:22,120 justice for all. >> [clears throat] 20 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,120 » Thank you. 21 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Just for everyone's information, uh tonight's agenda will only have the 22 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:38,440 one item, and that is the Truth in Taxation public hearing. The reason for 23 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:44,600 that is it is a state requirement that tonight's meeting just be 24 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:49,000 um in regards to to this um this topic. 25 00:02:45,959 --> 00:02:53,240 So, as we get to our public hearing and public comment section, we only have the 26 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,040 one item that we will be discussing tonight. So, if you'll please keep your 27 00:02:54,680 --> 00:03:01,080 comments to that one item. If you have additional comments that you'd like to 28 00:02:58,959 --> 00:03:06,040 make to the council in regards to other items or other concerns you might have, 29 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:10,440 if you can join us on our August 17th meeting or email the council or call the 30 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:14,080 council. Um >> It's the 19th tonight. 31 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:17,640 » Did I say 17th? Sorry. August 19th. August 19th is the correct date, 32 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:22,880 Wednesday, August 19th. Uh with that being said, um we will 33 00:03:20,239 --> 00:03:28,200 begin with agenda item number one, a public hearing item, consideration of 34 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:33,680 resolution 2026-59 approving a property tax increase and 35 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:38,959 levying the property tax rate for fiscal year 2027. 36 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Grantsville City is considering levying levying a tax rate that exceeds the 37 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:47,840 current certified tax rate in the form of a 4.98% 38 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:51,640 increase to its property tax rate from 0.001417 39 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,120 to 40 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:02,280 Grantsville City's proposed tax rate increase will generate an additional 41 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,280 $110,832 42 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:10,720 of ad valorem tax revenue to be generated each year. To the average home 43 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:17,640 valued at $563,000 in Grantsville City, this will equate to 44 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:25,720 an increase of approximately $21.99 a year or $1.83 a month. 45 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:25,720 The purpose of this additional $110,832 46 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:32,440 ad valorem tax revenue is to fund a full-time benefited employee to support 47 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,840 new Grantsville City parks coming online. 48 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Scenic Slopes Park and the Veterans Park, both of which are anticipated to 49 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:43,000 be completed early in fiscal year 2027. 50 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Uh we also have an additional park that a developer is building out themselves. 51 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,320 The city did not purchase or do any of the um 52 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,760 build out of that park. It's at the Desert Edge subdivision and that is also 53 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:01,800 supposed to be coming online at the same time as well. 54 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Or right close to it. Um 55 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:10,720 before we go to your comments, which are very important for us to hear, we will 56 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:15,200 have a presentation of impact statement fee by our finance director, Aspen. 57 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:22,200 » All right. This is our property tax impact schedule. We have seen this 58 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:27,080 numerous times. We have to present it every time we discuss the property tax 59 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:30,760 increase or the budget for fiscal year '27. 60 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Um so I'm just going to go through this quickly. A lot of it is information that 61 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,280 Mayor Hammond has already stated at the beginning of this meeting. 62 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:43,640 Grantsville City is considering an increase to its property tax rate from 63 00:05:40,919 --> 00:05:48,800 0.001417 to 0.001488, 64 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:54,560 which exceeds the estimated certified tax rate and it's estimated to generate 65 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:58,000 an additional $110,832 in property tax revenue. 66 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,240 The following information is intended to provide the city council and the public 67 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,360 with an explanation of how the city's operations would be affected if the 68 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,040 proposed property tax increase is adopted. 69 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:13,360 So, you can see that our current property tax rate is 0.001417, 70 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:19,160 and that will generate approximately $2,211,000 71 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,160 $211,956. 72 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:27,000 The proposed revenue with this tax proposed tax change would be 73 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 $2,322,788, 74 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:35,440 which is approximately $110,832 of additional revenue. 75 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:40,480 To get that, we would be raising property taxes 76 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:45,400 a 4.98%, which takes us to that 0.001488 77 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:49,120 tax rate. So, if you please scroll down just a 78 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:55,640 little, Alicia, sorry. Um so, the median 79 00:06:51,520 --> 00:07:02,360 home in Grantsville City is $563,000. Um that with this change, it would 80 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:07,000 increase their property taxes by $21.99 annually, which equates to $1.83 a 81 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:12,280 month, which they would see there. And this 82 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:17,880 full $110,832 is going to um 83 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:22,760 fund an additional parks and recreation employee, just one full-time position 84 00:07:20,919 --> 00:07:28,320 that's fully benefited, um in anticipation for Scenic Slopes, 85 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:33,320 Veterans Park, and then also the Desert Edge development um park that is coming 86 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:37,360 online as well, just to help support and upkeep those parks. So, 87 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,080 um yeah, that's really all I have for you 88 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:45,520 guys, just to present that, and then we've talked plenty, you've heard me. 89 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:49,320 So, I think we're good to turn the time over to the public. 90 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:54,240 » Okay, thanks, Aspen. Does anyone have any questions for Aspen before we begin 91 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,240 our public hearing? 92 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Okay. All right, so this is a public hearing 93 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,640 item. We invite those who are interested to comment on this item to please come 94 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:09,200 forward. We'll start with those who are in the room, and those who are online 95 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:12,600 will also be given an opportunity to make a comment as well. 96 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,800 Because we want everyone to have an opportunity to make a comment that would 97 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:22,000 like to, please limit your comments to 3 minutes per speaker. You will see a 98 00:08:18,919 --> 00:08:25,960 countdown timer on the podium. We will also be accepting emailed public 99 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:29,480 comments until the close of the meeting, and we will display the email address on 100 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,960 the screen during the public comment period. 101 00:08:30,919 --> 00:08:37,360 We also have received um public or emails that that the 102 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:41,440 council has been given, and so those have all been seen by the council 103 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:44,080 members. So, um you needn't fear that we haven't seen 104 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:47,760 those those emails. Um 105 00:08:47,839 --> 00:08:53,800 when we get to the online comments, you may use the zoom function to raise your 106 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:59,440 hand, and when you are called on, we'll get you unmuted so that you can comment. 107 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:02,760 If you have dialed in on a phone, you can raise your hand by pressing star 108 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:08,040 nine. And once I call your name, you will 109 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:12,960 press star six to unmute yourself. So, we will begin with any public 110 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,640 comment of anyone who is present in the room. We will start in that order, and 111 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:19,640 again, uh please limit your comments to 3 112 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,640 minutes. 113 00:09:20,686 --> 00:09:22,706 » [clears throat] 114 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,960 » Good evening, council. Um and the honorable Mayor Hammond. Um 115 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:35,280 appreciate your hard work. I know it's a probably a thankless job you do. Uh you 116 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:39,320 got to make some tough decisions. I my only comment and encouragement to 117 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:43,960 the council would be back in May when this first came up that 118 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,640 there was an 84% increase number thrown around. 119 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,320 Now whether it was intentional, I think to the 120 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,720 public it appears maybe you throw up a high 121 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:58,080 number so we can come down to this low number. So my comment would be just 122 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:03,400 before you introduce a number in the future, maybe do the homework, make sure 123 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:08,080 you can come in with a number that is as low as you think it can be. Cuz that's a 124 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:11,360 big swing from 84 to this sub five. And it's good you did it and we appreciate 125 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:14,480 it. But 126 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,320 it looks like some shenanigans. And I'm not accusing you of that, but that's 127 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:21,440 just what it looks like. And sometimes perception is truth to the people 128 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:24,560 perceiving it. So just that would be my only comment. Um 129 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,000 I don't know the legality of this either, but maybe another revenue 130 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,960 generator is have our police officers write some more speeding tickets on Main 131 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,702 Street. I think they could sit out there write all tickets all day and they could 132 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,920 have funded this $110,000 in a month. So >> [laughter] 133 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,120 » Um again appreciate your work and that that's all 134 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,160 my comments. Did I need to identify myself? I didn't. 135 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,640 » Yes. I say have you state your name for the record. 136 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,000 » Cameron Moulton. Address too? >> Thank you. And then if you'll 137 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,920 » No, I'm over on this side. >> And I'm sorry I forgot to mention if you 138 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,800 make a comment, if you'll please sign your name on the um clipboard that's 139 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,440 there on the edge of the desk, that would be very helpful for our recorder. 140 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,240 Thank you. >> Thanks, Cameron. 141 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:08,680 » Hi everybody. My name is Mary Ann Tusa. 142 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:15,240 Um I live on the Grand Drive. My question is 143 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:19,960 if you go over the medium rate is it more? 144 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:22,839 Or is it just one flat rate of the $21 a month? 145 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:27,320 Do you know what I'm saying? >> Yes, I I understand your question, but 146 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:32,320 let me just make a little quick comment if that's okay. Um 147 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,560 we are not allowed to go back and forth in dialogue with you during this time. 148 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,880 » Okay. >> But the council will be writing down the 149 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,800 questions that are addressed and then we will address them after. So, don't think 150 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,040 we're ignoring your question. We're not. So, go ahead. 151 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,480 » you. >> Mhm. 152 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:50,640 » Um Also, I noticed in here that uh you're 153 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:55,200 not including any new growth. 154 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:59,160 So, you got a lot of new homes being built. 155 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:05,160 They're not going to pay this? They're not included in this rate? 156 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:10,880 So, I know you can't comment, but that would take care of that 157 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:17,200 110 cuz there's a lot of homes going up. And uh 158 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,200 Trying to think what else I have to say. 159 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:23,280 That's about it. Those are my two questions that I had. I 160 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:28,360 think you're all doing a good job. This is very difficult, but also to uh next 161 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:35,280 year they're going to raise rates too that affect our property taxes also. 162 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:40,200 You know, this year was kind of mellow. We didn't the property taxes weren't 163 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:45,839 raised, but that I've paid property taxes since 1979. Different state, but 164 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:49,160 here 18 years. And I noticed that you do that one year and then the next year 165 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,880 boom. We're going to hit you with what we 166 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,040 really want to get. That's all I have to say. Thank you. 167 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:00,800 » Thank you. And if you'll sign your name on the edge of that desk, that'd be 168 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,800 greatly appreciated. Thank you. 169 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,320 Are there any other comments from those in the room? 170 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:32,240 We will If not, we will then move to those who are on Zoom. 171 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,240 Are there comments on Zoom? 172 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,400 Did you say you have 11, Alicia? >> Um, but none of them have raised their 173 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,600 hand. >> Okay, if you're if you're online 174 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:46,640 and you would like to make a comment, if you would please raise your hand. 175 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:50,840 Or if you're on the phone, you can press star nine. 176 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:03,640 » And the raise your hand button is at the bottom of your screen 177 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,640 for those who are unfamiliar with Zoom. 178 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:28,760 » Anybody online, Alicia, that would like to make a comment? 179 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:32,839 » I see no raised hands. >> Okay. 180 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Anybody else in the audience that would like to make a comment? 181 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:41,040 » [laughter] [snorts] 182 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:48,920 » All right, I see no additional comments, so we will close the public hearing 183 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,640 and we will move on to a council discussion regarding this item. 184 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Um, does anybody on the council want to address the questions that were asked 185 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,920 during our public comment? Or 186 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:08,520 Aspen, if you would like to address either of those as well. 187 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:13,800 » I would just I mean with the the first comment um 188 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:18,560 from uh Cameron Moulton just about coming in at 84% and going to 189 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:22,960 4.998% um, maybe just have Aspen and City 190 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:27,800 Manager Michael just get up and and talk about the process that goes through from 191 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:32,960 all the departments to get their budget in and and and how that all came and how 192 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:36,960 it was riddled prior and anyways, I think that would be that 193 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:40,720 would help not only for us as council members, I think we somewhat understand 194 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:44,080 it, but to to to talk about that again and then also for those that are 195 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,280 listening online and here in the gallery. 196 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,600 » You want me to do it again? >> I can start. I'll start and then Michael 197 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:55,360 can chime in as he sees it appropriate. So, we started the budget process back 198 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:59,880 in February with basically an ask to all departments for 199 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:04,240 them to go through their current budgets that they were in in fiscal year 26 at 200 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:11,160 the time and evaluate them and get us sheets back for what their 201 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:15,800 asks are for their budget line items, whether and we, you know, that included 202 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,720 all asks to be sure, so that included any additional staffing that they felt 203 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,240 was necessary. >> Capital projects. 204 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:25,520 » Capital projects, capital equipment, um 205 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:28,000 large purchases, things that would be would 206 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,800 they needed to have justification for the increase in the budget line, 207 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:36,240 basically is what um and then Michael and I reviewed those 208 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:41,960 and then met with each department head to go over them individually to try to 209 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,800 mitigate some of the asks that were coming through initially. 210 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,880 Um and then after that we did compile it 211 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,240 together. Um 212 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:57,839 » And I think that calculation turned out to be if they we granted all their asks 213 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:02,480 and approved the budget, it was closer to 200 and 214 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:06,400 what, 80% increase? >> It was yeah, it was very high initially 215 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:09,560 and then we had whittled it down like just, you know, Michael and talking 216 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:14,520 with department heads to get the asks, but I think the biggest thing to note is 217 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,480 we are trying really hard to get ourselves out of a deficit that Grants 218 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Pass City is currently operating in. So, Grantsville City has been operating 219 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:24,640 based off of being able to pull from savings, 220 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:29,160 essentially. Um 221 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:33,920 and that's not a long-term sustainable method of budgeting or operating a 222 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:37,160 business. And so, we had gone through 223 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:42,040 um and slashed all of the asks and just to 224 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:46,440 get Grantsville out of the deficit and maintain current operations, it would 225 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:51,000 have been that 84% increase that was presented in May initially. So, 226 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,840 » So, that's how we got to that that number. 227 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:56,880 » There Yeah, so there was substantial like 228 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,760 ask at that point, but it was in an attempt to try to get us out of the 229 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,920 deficit that we're currently operating in, pulling from our savings in order to 230 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:08,120 do basic [clears throat] operating. >> And Aspen, if I can if I can comment at 231 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:12,440 this point, I understand that some of the reason that we had those savings was 232 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:16,520 from COVID funds. Is that correct? So, the COVID funds had been given to the 233 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:20,080 city during that time and then we had been using those to 234 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,280 deal with our deficit and those funds are obviously no longer 235 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,080 » Yes. >> coming to the city. 236 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:29,520 » Yeah, it is my opinion that without having received the COVID relief funds 237 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,760 during COVID-19 and the governmental support that came to Grantsville City 238 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:37,400 from that, Grantsville would have had to do a property tax increase prior to now. 239 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:43,520 Keep in mind also, Grantsville City has not done a property tax increase since 240 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:48,200 2009, 2011. I can check. I know we talked about it. Um 241 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:51,760 but it's been decade, like more than a decade since 242 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:56,640 we've done an increase. And actually, we did Grantsville City had done two small 243 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,960 increases and then did two large decreases in the property tax rate after 244 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,600 that. And hasn't touched the certified tax 245 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,640 rate since. And so, >> And I guess to to help the public be 246 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:10,680 aware that the council at the direction of our last 247 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:15,960 budgeting meeting that we are still operating in the deficit this year of a 248 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:20,040 amounts. We're still into savings, but to help reduce 249 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,880 the impact of increasing the tax rate this year. 250 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:28,120 That's what the council has directed that that's where we're at right now. 251 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,960 » To be sure that does include there was no additional staffing. There was no 252 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,760 additional asks that were granted this year to any department. So 253 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:39,320 » Except for the one mandatory 254 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:43,920 necessary employee that we need. >> Yes, so other 255 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:48,160 This ask is included in to fund the 256 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:52,000 that ask basically because no other asks were granted. So there was no additional 257 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:58,160 staffing, no new projects, no new equipment, no 258 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:02,480 um just operating at a very lean capacity and only basic operations. 259 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Nothing it above. 260 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:11,080 » And then that we did do a reduction looking at the budget. With council line 261 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,640 item by line item, and we did take a couple 262 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,840 hours during those council meetings walking it through and finding out how 263 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,280 to cut uh significant portions from the budget. 264 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,360 » Yes, and that's how we got to the eight from the 88 or 85 265 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:30,600 » 84 >> 84% to the 4.95. So 266 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:35,240 Um as Does anyone have any additional comments on that? 267 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Or concerns on the council? >> I don't have one on that, but I know I 268 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,080 think it's Maryann had asked a question about is it Is everybody paying $21 269 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,760 That's just an average. It's going to be a percentage based on your house. 270 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,280 » On the value of your home. >> of your house will be that 4.9. So it's 271 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,040 not going to be $21 a year for everyone. >> And the new homes that get built will be 272 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,640 taxed. >> Yeah, do you want to address how that 273 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:58,000 will work? So I know we can't count on that because we don't have those 274 00:20:56,120 --> 00:21:01,440 residents here. So we can't count on them to be 275 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:05,360 there to make that portion of that payment, but obviously they're going to 276 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:09,800 have the same taxes that every other community member has, and so 277 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:13,240 that will add to it, but we can't count on that because they're not here in 278 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,720 residence at this time. Is that an explanation that's 279 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:21,000 acceptable, Aspen? >> Yes. Yes. So, everyone, including new 280 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:24,880 incoming homes, are will pay property taxes and will be taxed at the same rate 281 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:28,520 as everyone else in Grantsville City. So, if they're within the Grantsville 282 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:33,960 City boundaries, they pay the same tax rate, and every home and property pays 283 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:38,480 it. So, even if it's empty land and it's property, they're still paying property 284 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:44,000 taxes on that land, and so they still are taxed at that same rate. Um 285 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:49,600 but yes, it it does impact each property individually based on the value of 286 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,920 that property that's been assessed. Now, also to clarify, Grantsville City does 287 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:57,160 not conduct those assessments for the assessed values of the property here in 288 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:01,320 Grantsville City. That's actually conducted through the Tooele County 289 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:06,280 Assessor's Office, and their assessors go out and assess the values. So, we 290 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:10,320 don't assign the value to your property here in Grantsville City. So, we have no 291 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,560 control over those values that are assigned. 292 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,000 » Is everybody on the council clear with those explanations? 293 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:26,160 » There was one other comment um by Mary Ann, where she um 294 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,040 talked about Tooele raising their rates, too. I'm I'm assuming that's Tooele 295 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:33,640 County. Um but Tooele City won't affect 296 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:37,160 Grantsville residents. So, if that's the that's the notion, then 297 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:41,680 um Tooele City raising their rates doesn't affect Grantsville City 298 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:45,520 residents. But Tooele County, that that may affect us, and obviously Tooele 299 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,800 County School District affects us as well. 300 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,280 » Mhm. Yes. 301 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,080 And to be sure, that isn't within control of their own 302 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,360 They're their own taxing entity, so they would make that decision independently 303 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:05,440 of us, and we would not see We would not receive any additional revenue if they 304 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:09,320 were to increase their rates at all. We We only receive what we are taxing. 305 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:27,240 » Oh, she wants to make a comment. >> Does Tooele County 306 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:31,400 doesn't give Grantsville City any revenue from [clears throat] their taxes 307 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:35,240 from the taxes? Nothing? 308 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,840 They just keep it all I didn't know that. I thought they gave 309 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,240 you something. >> No. 310 00:23:38,746 --> 00:23:43,760 » [clears throat] >> You learn something new every day. 311 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,280 » So just So just to kind of put it into 312 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:52,040 perspective, an example that I have for a property tax valuation that went out 313 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,480 this year, um 314 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,560 the proposed if the proposed tax rate was to go 315 00:23:56,360 --> 00:24:04,000 through, um approved, that that home specifically 316 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:07,560 would pay $3,461.85 in property taxes. 317 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:12,360 And of that, Grantsville City would receive $455. 318 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:16,360 The rest [clears throat] goes to the other taxing entities that impact that 319 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:20,920 home specifically. Obviously, that's just an example. It would be unique to 320 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:25,240 each home, but just to kind of put in perspective how much we're receiving of 321 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,800 the property taxes that are paid. >> Did you mention what the value of that 322 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:33,000 home was? >> The uh the tax value of that home is 323 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,920 um So that one is $556,000. 324 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,960 dollar home. >> And that number is generated that's the 325 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:46,760 median home price for Grantsville. That's what I was asking about. 326 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:52,360 » Yeah, so the median home was um 563, I think, and this one is 556. So 327 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:56,440 it's a little lower, but so their property taxes would go up 328 00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:02,520 $21.72 if it if it were to pass annually. 329 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:06,560 » I think it's higher than that. You pay more, correct? 330 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,040 » Yes. Yeah, it's a percentage. Yeah. If it's lower, then it's lower. 331 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,440 » Yeah, that's right. >> Um when your property [clears throat] 332 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:17,960 tax statement comes out, it's broken down individually on that statement. You 333 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:21,560 can go through line by line and see I think now one of the things that they 334 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:25,920 also do is they put a graph on there, a pie graph, which indicates what portion 335 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,400 is going where um of those taxes you're paying and and 336 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:33,840 where they where they get plugged to specifically. 337 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:38,200 So, that's beneficial, too. 338 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,200 » Yeah. 339 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:56,640 » Aspen, could in one of these emails we got, um 340 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,600 one of them they asked a question about the police department. It says other 341 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:06,800 professional services. Um had a budgeted last year, I think it 342 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:11,080 like 15,000, and now it's 183. Could you just walk us through that? I know we 343 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:15,400 changed some light light line items around. Um that was one of them, and can 344 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:19,080 you explain kind of what went behind that and if that was one of 345 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:24,920 those line items that we changed? >> Yeah, absolutely. So, it was um that one 346 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:29,320 specifically. So, as you can see, so this is the police department's budget. 347 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:33,800 So, that other professional services, it did have a substantial jump for fiscal 348 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:37,000 year '27, which is this last column where Alicia's cursor is. 349 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:42,560 Um from the last year's budget, which was 350 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:48,120 fiscal year 2026, which was 15,000. Um we did move around where some of our 351 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:53,320 expenses are paid for. So, originally, we had been paying for the Tooele County 352 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:58,520 dispatch contract out of dues and fees line here in police department. 353 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:02,240 Um that we decided it needed to be reallocated 354 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:07,120 as an other professional service because that's a more appropriate categorization 355 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:11,480 of that contract. And so we moved that expense from dues and fees to other 356 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,040 professional services and you can actually see that reflected in the 357 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,480 budget as well because dues and fees budget went down substantially. 358 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,280 » So it looks like an increase but it's it's just a shift from one budget line 359 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,640 to another. >> Correct. 360 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,680 » Just to align with more proper accounting 361 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,960 practices. >> Yeah, and that contract alone with the 362 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Tooele County for dispatch services is $157,000. 363 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:37,280 So and that's what allows our police department to be able to receive the 911 364 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:42,080 calls and respond. So 365 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,360 yeah, that's an explanation for that. >> Okay. If we just were to scroll down 366 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,960 just a little bit you can kind of see that line item at the top of the next 367 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,560 page. So I let me try to try to split the the two pages. 368 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,520 » Yeah, it won't let me. >> It won't let you? 369 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,880 Well, on my computer. >> Really? 370 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,560 » Yeah. >> I'm sorry. I can send 371 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,280 » There's probably a setting I have but >> That's fine. You can just go down just a 372 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:05,240 little bit into the next page you can see the 373 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:10,880 second from the from the top. This is at $168,067 374 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:14,360 and now that line item is at $500 dues and fees. 375 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:20,600 » Mhm. And you can see it was budgeted at $185,000 for fiscal year '26, so last 376 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:24,160 year. So we just moved that budget from that line to another line. 377 00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:37,484 » [clears throat] 378 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:47,720 » Then under the legal part we got kind of the same thing with the legal services. 379 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:51,040 That jumped up quite a bit. Um >> Yeah, and that one's a little 380 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,480 harder to track because it did come We had 381 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,880 initially large budget amount in general government, which is our city hall 382 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,800 budget, which the legal department was originally has previously been 383 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,520 encompassed under. Last year was the first year that the 384 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:10,280 legal department was their own department and had their own budget. And 385 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,800 so it was 386 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:18,040 a different it So, it essentially moved from the grants with city hall budget to 387 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,120 the legal department budget specifically. So, 388 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,720 that budget for that department does seem substantially more than it was in 389 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,320 years past, but that's just because we haven't had it before, but we did move 390 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,120 it from the city hall budget. So, if you looked between those two different 391 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:38,480 departments, it would even out. But, it is a it's 392 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:42,160 legal services are expensive. So, it is it is a substantial budget line. 393 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,960 » transparent on what we're actually spending on 394 00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:45,720 » [clears throat] >> our legal services. 395 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,960 » Yeah. >> Okay. 396 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,160 I'm just trying to get some of these questions asked asked just so everyone's 397 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,720 aware and we're being as transparent as we can 398 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,760 with everybody. >> I appreciate that we're looking into 399 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:03,200 those areas to give them more visibility. Those you know, and we're 400 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:07,800 coding we're coding those items where they should be coded 401 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:11,080 specifically to what services they are. >> Yeah. 402 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:16,200 » It allows us to be able to manage them better if it's not all in one cookie 403 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:21,600 jar, it's separated into smaller pieces. So, thank you for 404 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,080 looking at those as you're going through them. 405 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,720 » I mean, even just looking right there, you can see that judicial 406 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,880 the budget item went down um 407 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,240 about $40,000. Did a lot of that money get moved down 408 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:40,160 into the legal department? 409 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:45,200 » Yeah. Yeah, so we did it and you know, it's on a to-do list when 410 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:49,560 there's time, but ultimately like our general ledger and account names 411 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:55,040 probably need a pretty big revamp. A lot of it's outdated, and so we kind of put 412 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,680 things in where they would best fit, but from my perspective, that's not 413 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,160 transparent cuz as a member of the public, if I wanted to find the legal 414 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:05,120 fees that we were paying, I would go to the legal department. So like that's a 415 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:10,360 change that we've made to help it easy be easier for those that aren't within 416 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:16,440 our own organization be able to find things. So we're working to try to be 417 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:19,800 more aptly named and easier, you know, more user-friendly all around. 418 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:49,960 » Aspen, one other question from from the emails that we received, it 419 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,720 says, "Why do the parks and cemetery need four times the amount budgeted than 420 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:58,560 the average that is spent over the past 3 years for irrigation assessment? Can 421 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:04,120 you give us an explanation on that?" >> Yeah, so the irrigation assessment is a 422 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:08,640 fee that we charge that we're charged that we pay to Grantsville Irrigation 423 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Company, and it is to assess our water shares. So we have A shares, B shares. 424 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,320 Um, we have to pay that every year. >> Just like the public does with their 425 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,320 irrigation shares. >> Yeah, exactly. And so as far as the 426 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:24,680 increase, I I can't really speak to that because 427 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:30,440 we just pay Grantsville Irrigation Company. So they bill us. So as far as 428 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:34,440 like the increase in cost, I would recommend that we reach out to them. Um, 429 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,080 but we're we're just budgeting an 430 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:41,480 appropriate amount to be able to pay those bills to have our shares assessed 431 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,640 for our irrigation shares this year. 432 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:49,240 » It is the salaries and wages right there that's the highlighted with the that 433 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,360 increase at the top is for that new employee, correct? That's why that's 434 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:56,680 » Correct. >> That's why it's highlighted, yeah. 435 00:32:53,000 --> 00:33:01,160 » Yeah, yeah, cuz those budget lines do in in this specific example of the budget, 436 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:05,560 it does include the if the increase was to be approved, those lines are adjusted 437 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,200 according to that increase for this example. So yeah, that's why they're 438 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,480 highlighted like that. Just to draw attention so that way it's clear where 439 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,480 it went. 440 00:33:14,497 --> 00:33:16,518 » [clears throat] 441 00:33:24,323 --> 00:33:26,343 [clears throat] 442 00:33:53,920 --> 00:34:00,200 » Anyone any council member have any additional comments you'd like to make 443 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:07,120 before have a motion? Or any other discussion topics for this 444 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,120 item? 445 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:15,760 » Yeah, maybe I'll I'll speak my mind. I 446 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:20,960 uh when we're talking about taxes and raising taxes, obviously, I 447 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:25,159 know I support a zero percent increase of tax. Um 448 00:34:23,879 --> 00:34:27,600 one of the you know, one of the challenges that we 449 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,760 have is and I and I I appreciate that we've 450 00:34:29,399 --> 00:34:36,200 gone about I think we've gone about this the right way. 451 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:41,800 Uh we've we've gone back to all of the individual departments and and 452 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:45,960 addressed it in that fashion. Um obviously when you're operating 453 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,320 in a deficit, um 454 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,280 you've got a you know, there's there's two sides that I think you have to 455 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,720 attack from, but um 456 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:01,240 and and operating in a deficit is not the right way to run, 457 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:05,840 um in my opinion. So, um that's that's the hard part that 458 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:10,880 we're up against. Uh I know you know, just recently we've we've had 459 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,240 to increase some fees to to help compensate for 460 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,320 um something that should have been planned for many, many years ago, and so 461 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:22,960 we've we've had some increases. So, I think I just want to make the comment 462 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,720 that that we 463 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:31,360 don't take this lightly at all. Um it's a 464 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:36,480 you know, at the same time there's there's items that need to have the 465 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:40,080 services, you know, we're telling the police department you can't bring on 466 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:44,320 another another officer or you know, so we have 467 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,400 we have we have needs as a city and to ensure that we can 468 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,360 manage and take care of the needs of the city and do it judiciously with the 469 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,040 dollars that we have. That's the that's our 470 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:57,840 that's what we're in these roles to do. And so, 471 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:02,760 and I appreciate that the approach that has been taken 472 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:08,040 to go through all of that in this and and go through line by line and 473 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:12,920 and ask what's happening and how it's happening and and and be able to gain 474 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,680 more insight to see what areas we feel like we can 475 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:20,760 we can adjust. I feel we run a pretty lean ship. Um 476 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,440 and I think that's been how it's been ran and and 477 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:29,440 and we've we've brought in outside dollars to to help 478 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:32,960 mitigate some of that and and so in my opinion some of these 479 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,960 questions should have been asked, you know, prior to today to 480 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:41,480 hey, when when those dollars eventually go out, are we going to be behind and 481 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:47,200 and ensure we we stay where we need to stay. This is kind of the minimalistic 482 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:51,920 approach. Um And anyway, that's 483 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:57,000 that I just wanted the public to know, yeah, this is this has been something 484 00:36:53,720 --> 00:37:02,320 that I I I think the entire council has spent a good deal of time on the the 485 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:08,480 department has spent a good deal of time on 486 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:11,760 and we're we're here where we're at. So. >> Thanks, Jake. 487 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:17,600 Anyone else want to make a statement? >> Um I do. So 488 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:22,440 I I'm against any tax raise as well. I've 489 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:27,240 made it clear, I think. Property tax, that's theft. But we live in a state 490 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:31,360 that that's how municipalities function, unfortunately. 491 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:37,480 I have a hard time raising any taxes, especially after seeing people get their 492 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:42,920 sewer bills that go from $53 a month to $313 493 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:46,680 in a month and in the same year a water raise 494 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,640 even though that was approved a while ago. 495 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:54,600 And now we're asking for additional um 496 00:37:52,360 --> 00:38:00,040 I think we can do better. Um I have a hard time approving an extra 497 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,880 position for parks and rec when I see 498 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:08,200 some of our employees posting Tik Tok videos 499 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:10,760 um while at work. Um 500 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:14,200 It's not a good per- It's not perceived well by the citizens 501 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:18,160 when they send me these and show me these videos. 502 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:23,800 Um So I'm kind of upset about that. Um I 503 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:28,600 know it's not a lot, it's $21 a year. It's like a guzzle drink a day. Um, 504 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,080 but it's hard to ask with everything we've already asked for from the 505 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:35,560 citizens to add more um, to their plate. 506 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:50,880 » I am not a fan of raising the tax rate either. I think the problem is we have 507 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:54,200 put this off for so long. I think it was I think it was 2000 I think it's been 16 508 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,880 years so 2010 with >> I confirmed last time it was raised was 509 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,000 2009. >> Nine, okay. So, I mean, that's what's 510 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,200 got us here. It's the same problem with the sewer that should have been done. 511 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:07,160 So, it's like I feel like we made the best we did the best we could to try and 512 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:11,000 get it as low as possible, but still adding something. So, so in the future 513 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,280 we don't end up with a jump in the sewer rate like three times as much. I mean, 514 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,160 if we end up you know, if we keep not doing it, we're going to end up where we 515 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,520 have to it's going to be 84% at some point. So, I think we did I mean, we 516 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,440 spent hours on this trying to go through and in my opinion I I I know we need 517 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,400 parks. I like the parks. In my opinion, public safety is more important. I think 518 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,440 we do need more officers. I don't know anything about Tik Tok videos or 519 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:35,680 anything like that. I think all of our employees are from what I've seen are 520 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:38,640 doing a good job, but I mean, obviously there's could be issues, but I I think 521 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,800 that every department has been told no. Every 522 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:47,480 except for the parks which you know, >> Well, and to and to be fair to that 523 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:51,000 even, the parks had a a lot of things that they were in need of and this was 524 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,680 just the only thing that was >> Yeah, so I feel like I mean, we 525 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,640 literally cut out everything. We told everybody else. I mean, more police 526 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,880 officers, more more funding, you know, for 527 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:04,880 public works, for all of that. And I know all of them said they were running 528 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:07,400 lean. And so, uh, you know, this is what And I think it just helps us moving 529 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,520 forward so we don't have to have that giant increase eventually. And so, 530 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:16,040 yeah, I mean, I have to pay it too and it sucks, but and it does it it it is 531 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,560 hard after we just did the sewer and and let the water rates were already 532 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,280 increasing. I got my bill too and was like, oh, here it is, you know, and so 533 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:26,600 it wasn't fun. But I mean, I think this is the minimum 534 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:30,360 we can do right now to to mitigate what we have going forward 535 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:35,000 because I think we've gotten to where we are because we've been living with 536 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,960 outside of our means. So, that's what 537 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,520 » Well, and and relying on savings that we no longer have. 538 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,960 » Yeah, that we can't always count on, you know, so 539 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,920 » Jeff or Rhett, either of you have anything you'd like to state? 540 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,520 » I don't think I need to say anything else other than and you guys there might 541 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:58,520 be plenty that disagree with me, but another thing in the future that would 542 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:02,080 really help us dollar wise is businesses. 543 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,840 Businesses bring in um 544 00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:06,600 » [clears throat] >> uh 545 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:12,240 point of sales tax revenue to the city that would offset any huge increase in 546 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:16,240 in taxes, so um 547 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:21,320 yeah, I mean, you can disagree with me, that's fine, but that is a just just 548 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:27,360 looking to the future. Um I think we've got a business district 549 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:32,440 set up, which we haven't had my entire I've lived here my entire life. 550 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:39,160 Um it's there. It'll be interesting to see what that develops into in the next 551 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:43,480 few years, but that could really benefit um 552 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:46,480 benefit us as as far as the budget goes. That's the only other thought that came 553 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,040 to my mind, so. >> Okay. 554 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,720 Rhett, do you have anything you'd like to add? 555 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,280 » I've said plenty during the course of this process. 556 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,360 » Okay. >> So, I think I'm 557 00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:00,800 I'm good. I'll I'll just reiterate just one thing that Jeff just said and 558 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:07,560 you know, a big line item on the revenue side of of 559 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:10,600 of our um budget is sales tax and I'll agree with you there. I mean, there 560 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,920 are municipalities um 561 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,560 and obviously they're in the Salt Lake Valley that don't have property taxes. 562 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,240 They don't They don't charge their citizens that. 563 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:24,480 It's because they have all those businesses and everyone flocks to those 564 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,560 businesses, so um 565 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,480 encourage [clears throat] our residents to to um 566 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,800 to shop here locally as much as they can. We are getting 567 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,400 you know, as I'll be at the grocery store's moving, but we are getting a new 568 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:42,560 hardware store in in line with that, and there'll be other amenities that that 569 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,960 come later on, and in our next meeting we'll 570 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,840 I think we'll certainly see, you know, some movement 571 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,200 um further down on Main Street and and some other areas that we can 572 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,400 » Right. >> garner some some sales tax. So, it's not 573 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,960 like we're we're not trying to to bring those businesses in. I think we're we've 574 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:05,240 got a very pro-business and a very pro-friendly council and mayor, so. 575 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,320 That is somewhat where it is at. I mean, that 576 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:11,640 to me, looking at the at the sheet here, that that's 577 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,120 a million dollars more than the property taxes that we actually get is sales tax 578 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:19,200 revenue. So, and I get it, it's another way to 579 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,520 tax, right? But that's that's that's that's the name of the game, 580 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,400 right? So, all our dollars that go to the east 581 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,960 to Tooele um 582 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,080 » or around the mountain to Salt Lake. >> Or around the mountain to Costco. 583 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,120 » Yep. >> Which I think we're probably all guilty 584 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,120 of that, right? So. 585 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,375 » Anyways. Okay, I said too much. I said I wasn't 586 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,395 going to say anything. >> [laughter] 587 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:48,400 » Any other discussion we would like to have, or was there somebody that would 588 00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:48,400 like to make a motion? 589 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,280 » I don't remember the resolution. Can we put it back on the screen? 590 00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:56,600 » [laughter] >> Okay. 591 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,080 » Sorry, I don't have it. >> No, you're good. 592 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,680 » You can pick the green one if you want. It's the same already. 593 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:17,240 » So >> No, yeah. 594 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,320 » the full thing or just that? >> Just this. 595 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,520 If you want. >> Okay. 596 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,520 Thank you. 597 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:28,520 » I motion that we approve resolution 2026/59 598 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:33,400 approving a property tax increase and loving the property tax rate for the 599 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,520 fiscal year 2027 as described. >> We have a motion by council member 600 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,240 Skinner. Is there a second? >> I'll second. 601 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,200 » A second by council member Butler. All in favor. 602 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,000 » I. I. >> All opposed. 603 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,680 » Nay. >> I'll do a roll call. Butler. 604 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,800 » Yay. >> Thomas. 605 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:49,000 » Yay. >> Dalton. 606 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,200 » Nay. >> Skinner. 607 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,600 » Yay. >> Williams. 608 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:56,600 » Yay. >> Okay. That um 609 00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:01,960 That is a majority, so that will pass. It has not been a fun process, but 610 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:06,560 um here we are and we're doing the best we can to take things down to the very 611 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,760 minimum that we can to keep our city running and we're grateful to all of our 612 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:14,440 city staff who is doing everything on a very minimal budget. So, thank you to 613 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,240 all of our staff members. We do appreciate you. 614 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,400 Um with that being said, we that is the 615 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:24,880 only item we were allowed to discuss tonight. So, can I get a motion to 616 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:28,160 adjourn? >> May I make a motion we adjourn? 617 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,800 » A motion by council member Butler. Is there a second? 618 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,720 » Second. >> Second by council member Williams. All 619 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,560 in favor. >> I. 620 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:41,040 » Thank you. And thank you to the public for being here tonight. 621 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,040 » I was only here for the tax.