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We'll call the 7:00 meeting to order. City council recess to the city council conference room to conduct a closed session in
Regards to real property relative to the deliberation of the purchase,

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exchange, lease, sale or value of real property under section 551.072 of the texas
Government code, and be to conference with the city manager and

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staff to discuss deliberate commercial and financial information received from business
Prospects.

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the city seeks to have, locate, stay or expand in the city and to deliberate the offer of
A financial or other incentive with businesses that we're conducting economic

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development negotiations under section 551.087 of the texas government code.

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we'll reconvene here at 7:30 and take any necessary action.

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after that, we will call to order our 7:30 meeting.

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session that began at 7:00. Mr. Rumbelow any action of the council as a result of the executive session?

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no, your honor. Thank you very much, madam chairman. Are you ready? Yes.

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all right. We'll call the 7:30 meeting to order and ask you to rise for the invocation
And pledge.

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council member sharron rogers.

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please bow with me. Heavenly father, thank you for the opportunity for all of us to gather here tonight as we
Do the business of our city.

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we thank you for our citizens who have come here to listen and to participate in our city
Government.

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we thank you for the blessings you've given us. We thank you for all of our city employees.

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we thank you for the wonderful country that we live in and for the opportunities that we
Have.

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we ask that you go with us tonight as we deliberate the business of our city, that we do
So fairly with foresight and with the eye always to do your will.

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in jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for
Which it stands, one nation under god,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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to welcome you to our meeting tonight, we have first scheduled joint public hearings
Between the [inaudible] zoning commission and the council.

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we have six of those. The public hearing will be open on each individual case.

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the staff will be requested to make an introduction of the request that's being made.

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after that, we will give the applicant an opportunity to make a presentation.

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if you wish to speak during any of these public hearings, you need to register with tara
Brooks so we have a record of your participation.

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you're not done. So you can come up now and begin to do that.

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after the public hearings, the planning zoning commission will separate to a separate
Meeting.

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that will be a public meeting. You're invited to attend that and hear the deliberations of the commission.

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the council will retain remain in session here and will consider its agenda as published.

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so you're invited to be a part of your government tonight. We'll begin by opening the public hearing on am 23-02 electrical vehicle charging
Stations.

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erica marohnic of our staff. Good evening, honorable mayor, members of the city council, madam chair and members of
The planning and zoning commission.

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this first joint public hearing item is a text amendment to the zoning ordinance.

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it is a request to amend various sections of the zoning ordinance relative to electric
Vehicle charging stations and their supply equipment.

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the planning and zoning commission held a series of workshops that began on august 1st,
2023 and continued on onto october 17th november 21st,

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discussing electric vehicle charging stations as a new and unlisted use in non
Residential zoning districts and multifamily zoning districts, and the need for

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definitions and use specific standards providing direction on appropriate locations,
Buffering, signage and an approval process.

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as part of this workshop work, the council also approved a six month moratorium on
September 5th, 2023 that would

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prohibit the installation of new and replacement ev charging stations.

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this is set to expire on march 5th, 2024. The amendment before you and in your council backup materials includes two new
Definitions to section 12 of the zoning ordinance for ev charging stations and ev

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supply equipment. It allows for ev charging stations in seven zoning districts with approval of a
Conditional use request, including the residential multifamily district, community

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commercial highway, commercial central business district, light industrial business park
District, and governmental use district and within section 42 use

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specific standards are established in subsection I, where for new ev charging stations, a
Building permit would be required.

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a charging station parking is in addition to any required parking spaces for all of the
Other uses on the property.

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that signage be approved as part of the conditional use permit process, that they may not
Be located immediately adjacent to public rights of way, and if located within 50ft of

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adjacent residential uses or district screening and buffering be provided. Supply equipment would need to be placed on ground mounted pads and transformers would
All need to be either underground or ground

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mounted and not aerial, and that every application would require utility will serve
Letter from the local electric delivery company.

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in addition, emergency shut off equipment would need to be provided for first responders
And fire and police, and that these ev charging stations be prohibited in parking

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structures, which would be consistent with recently adopted updated building codes and
Fire codes.

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this includes staff's presentation. I'm available for any questions that the commission or council may have.

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questions? No questions. No questions. Questions.

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questions from the council? No. I just want to commend everybody that's put a lot of effort into this.

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I know that there are some that would rather not have this approval process in place, but
We've begun to see these ev stations going up

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everywhere, and there's no ability for us to make sure that they're not taking away
Required parking and that they're not putting them in in places that are

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very unattractive for people that are either walking or driving by and so forth.

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so I know that it's been a tough road to get to where we are. And I know that there's been input from, relative to the state fire code requirements to
Make sure it's safe in garages and so forth.

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so I know that it's, a new thing. We probably have more of these type things we have to deal with in the future.

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but I just want to thank you and everybody that's worked on this to get us to this place
Tonight.

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you're welcome. All right. Any other questions?

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no, sir. All right. Thank you erica, do we have anyone wishing to speak?

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yes, sir. I have one registered. Mr. Bentley durant, 1101 west state highway 114, in grapevine.

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honorable mayor tate and council.

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I'm bentley durant. I represent classic chevrolet on 1101 west state highway 114 2501
William d tate and 3001 william d tate avenue.

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all these locations are zoned cc commercial. And I'd like to raise a concern over this amendment, because what we're doing here is,
While it's fine, my store does need to repair and

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service these electric vehicles, and we have several of these stations. In fact, we're always installing new ones or repairing them or upgrading them as the
Manufacturer requires it, or as our customers require it.

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and we've been lumped into this. But not only is it that, but we've taken all three levels of electric charging stations,
And we've made them all these electric charging stations that need a cup,

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a level one charging station, for example. It runs the power of about your microwave.

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if you plug in your electric car into that, you may take 3 or 4 days to fully charge it.

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it is not a big deal. A level two will probably charge your car overnight, most people have these in their home
Garage.

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it runs about the power of your ac air conditioner unit in your house.

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it's kind of a bigger deal, but not that big of a deal. The big deal is these level three charging stations.

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these things suck down more power than a 20 story office building. And I think it's this truly that you are seeking to regulate.

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and of that I approve these things. It takes me six months to get a permit to put in one of these things from the utilities.

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and I agree, going through the cup process and making sure the city is okay with where
I'm putting it in makes a lot of sense.

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but the other ones, I think we're overdoing it just a bit by lumping them into this same
Definition.

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I'd also like to know that this requirement is only on the dealerships designated cc
Commercial of my dealership.

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you've got the nissan dealership, you've got the chrysler dealership. Every other dealership in town is in a different type of zoning district by my review, and
Some of them are on airport property.

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none of those dealerships would be touched. All of those dealerships would be free to do as they want with the level one, two and
Three charging stations.

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thank you very much, council. I appreciate the time. Thank you. Any questions?

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do I take questions? I don't need questions. Thank you. Anyone else?

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no, your honor, and there is one letter in front of you.

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I'm sorry. Two letters.

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the dealerships on airport property wouldn't be subject to this ordinance.

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probably not. Short answer is no mayor. No. No. Okay. Anything else.

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I motion to close. We need a motion to close. Move to close. Second.

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all in favor? The commission is closed.

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a motion from the council. Move to close second. All in favor?

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all opposed. Motion carried. The hearing is closed on am 23-02.

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public hearing is open on am 23-08. Short term rentals erica marohnic.

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this is a request to amend various sections of the zoning ordinance relative to short
Term rentals and associated regulations.

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there are instances where the city council finds that enacting a permitting program for
Short term rentals will serve the balance the rights of all stakeholders in the city

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through a fair and balanced regulatory framework that permits short term rentals and
Limited locations and under certain circumstances, but ensures that short term rentals do

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not become a nuisance to single family neighborhoods. Therefore, this draft ordinance seeks to strike a balance and allow for short term rentals
Within two existing multifamily zoning districts with approval of a conditional use permit

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and subject to conditions. This amendment proposes new definitions within section 12 for booking service, hosting
Platform, short term rental, single family and multifamily short term

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rentals, of which single family short term rentals continue to be prohibited, as has been
The city's contention since 2018.

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and amending section 21, which is currently reserved in the zoning ordinance, to establish
Some use specific standards relative to multifamily short term

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rentals. And as part of this, it is proposing to establish, a two pronged process.

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first, there is the conditional use request process that would require a public hearing
Through the planning and zoning commission and city council to approve it within a

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multifamily development, and then also a permitting process through the planning services
Department and establishing that permitting process, inspection process and

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ultimately revocation process if there's noncompliance further on down the road if this
Were to be adopted.

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so, limitations on hosting platforms or booking services are established as part of
Section 21, including reporting

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requirements on a quarterly basis. Requirements for payment of hotel occupancy tax to the city and consistent with already
Established ordinances on a monthly basis

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to the finance department. But the limitations that are established as part of this amendment include that any
Multifamily development that's zoned residential, multifamily or residential

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multifamily to that, that development must have at least 50 units or more.

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that there can't be more than 3% of the available units in the development utilized for
Short term rental purposes, that they will be prohibited within

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our historic township boundary or transit district overlay, and they also cannot be
Located within 500ft of property zoned for single family uses.

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this, in essence, allows six multifamily developments at this time in the northeastern
Part of the town.

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and a maximum total number of 63 units that can be utilized for short term rental
Purposes.

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if they again were able to go and approve for the conditional use permit and the permit
Through the planning services department.

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there's a whole host of other conditions and use specific standards outlined here as far
As reporting requirements and design requirements and

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prohibitions on creating additional bedrooms within an existing multifamily unit.

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it also establishes dedicated off street parking and minimum rental periods of 24 hours,
And prohibitions on special events.

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this concludes staff's presentation. I'm available for any questions you may have.

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questions. No questions. All right. Questions from the council.

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thank you. Apparently not. Thank you very much, erica. We have anyone wishing to speak?

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yes, your honor, I have 12 registered.

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john perrault, 705 north main street in grapevine.

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I asked her to have me go last. Oh. I'm sorry. No. It's okay. Good evening, and thank you for letting me have the opportunity to talk.

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I've been doing this for five years, and I hope everyone received a seven page letter
That, the staff printed up.

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I think it was 32 copies. Did you all receive that? Yes, sir. Okay. I appreciate if you read it.

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I'm not here to cause any problems.

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I love this city. I've been living here since "02.

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but in your prayer, I think was sharron.

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you said in your prayer, I think to be fair. And that's what I'm asking the city council and planning and zoning, to be fair, I was
All love for you after

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this meeting, before you make a decision to look at grand prairie has.

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this is seven pages of an ordinance and rules and regulations that protect the citizens,
The city and the airbnb

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owners on short term rentals. It's incredible.

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I think if you read it, it makes sense.

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so grand prairie allows short term rentals, lewisville allows short term rentals.

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they all are requiring permits and a detailed ordinance on how to run your airbnb.

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irving has it, arlington has it. I can go on and on and on of all the cities that are trying to accommodate airbnb,
There's

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90 over 9,000 hotel rooms in the city.

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I would safely say less than four dozen airbnb's are conducting business.

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we're not competition with any of you. In the letter I gave you, I gave you a printout of one of my bookings where the occupancy
Tax is taken out by airbnb

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and paid to the city. I have no problem with the permit fee.

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I have no problem with any ordinances that you want to put on us, as long as it's fair.

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so with that said, do you have any questions for me?

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oh, you're not entitled to ask that question. You read the the rights that that you sign of a person speaking.

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it's not a debate. You get a chance to speak for or against, and that's all.

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you don't get a chance to ask questions. Or ask if anybody has a question.

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okay, okay. One other thing. Why does the city have short term rentals?

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you don't get to ask that. Well, why?

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spaces for motorhomes, busses.

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that's short term rentals. Go take your seat.

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that's what you own. The city owns. All right. You have three minutes to make a statement for or against a proposal.

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we have 11 more people that wishes to speak.

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so you don't have a chance to debate the council or the planning and zoning commission to
Ask questions.

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those are the rules and regulations during all public hearings.

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so I ask you to abide by them. All right. Ludmilla munz, 526 ball street in grapevine.

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to the grapevine city council and the honorable mayor tate.

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what's the difference between a 10 day rental, a 30 day rental, a 60 day rental?

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renters still have to abide by city ordinances.

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municipalities are set in place to look out for the best interest of their citizens.

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the city of grapevine appears to be putting hotel interests instead of property owner
Interests.

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there was a campaign slogan of homes, not hotels.

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how many new hotels and rooms do we have now?

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what about the cabins at the lake which are short term rentals?

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now apartments can short term rent. Who owns these apartments?

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proper management of our tax dollars do not include using them to fight against
Constituents.

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people who have chosen to operate short term rentals are being cited, fined and even
Harassed, even though the city has lost three cases in court.

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the home owners now represent fund representation to protect their vested interests.

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many people have invested funds improving property, which has have increased tax value
For

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the city. And yet we are being harassed. I personally have had four citations, six different court dates, an attempted $2,000 fine
Which resulted

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in a six month probation. Even though I was living in my own house, I never short term rented that house one time.

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I had citations saying that they saw people in my house on numerous occasions, which makes
Me very uncomfortable, as if someone is watching

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me in my own property. The texas supreme court, the appellate court and the county court have advised the city
That until our state law changes its law for property

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owners, the city cannot ban or take away the rights to rent their property for any
Duration of time.

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this is the court's decision. I have rented, I have hosted many families that are here for medical purposes.

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kidney transplant treatment for a child with cerebral palsy, a lady who can't stay in
Hotels because fluorescent lights trigger her epilepsy.

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I've had two families actually purchase homes in grapevine who have short term rented
From me.

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these are just regular families. There are way more problems with the city hosting its events.

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I know I live on ball street in college traffic jams, parking, not to mention drunk
People who drive after great fest from cannon elementary

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school. I have seen them with my own eyes. We object to the city.

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you have 30 more seconds to five minutes. We object to the city's attempting to stop residents from choosing to host their short
Term rentals of their own properties.

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thank you, thank you, thank you. Try to keep it to three minutes.

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all right next. Theresa [inaudible] 4319 greenwood lane in grapevine.

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hello, my name is theresa [inaudible] and I live at 4319 greenwood lane.

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I'm here today to tell you my story of why we must keep, short term rentals out of single
Family residential areas because of the impacts it has on kids and families.

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I'd like to tell you what it's like living next to a house and pool, rented out on a short
Term basis, and a constant stream of people.

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it started in march 2018 when I was in eighth grade. It finally ended in october when grapevine clarified its ordinances to stop such party
Houses.

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every week, there were anywhere from 30 to 40 new strangers who came and partied every,
Excuse me?

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we could hear all, everything that went on in those houses.

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our neighbors, our neighborhoods, are very close together. And that's why it was very easy to hear.

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the worst part is that I have two learning disabilities adhd and dyslexia.

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as well I have sleeping issues. Because of this, I had to work extra hard on my studies, and the party house situation
Was nothing but stress on myself and my family.

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a home should be a safe haven after school. Unfortunately, this was not the case for me.

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what was once a home had become a place where I did not feel safe, nor was I able to
Focus on my schoolwork because of the noise and the other activities going on behind our

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backyard. Not only did this issue cause lots of noise, but it also affected my feeling of
Safety.

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for example, I do not feel safe enough to swim in my own pool or go outside in my
Backyard.

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this year was not from knowing who these people were and not knowing their criminal
Histories.

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they could quickly come over our shared fence line. And lord knows what they would have done.

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which is why I still have the fear of going and playing in my own backyard, of just being
In my own backyard.

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thank you for letting me share my story. Thank you. Thank you very much.

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thank you. Andrew [inaudible] 4319 greenwood lane in grapevine.

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good evening. My name is andrew [inaudible] 4319 greenwood lane.

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tonight I stand before you. Not only as a grapevine resident, but also as a representative of the texas neighborhood
Coalition, a statewide grassroots organization with 21 chapters and thousands of residents

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dedicated to addressing the challenges posed by short term rentals. Our coalition, of which I am a co-founder, has been at the forefront of providing
Accurate information and dispelling propaganda, propaganda such as it's a

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constitutional right, it's our property right, or the state prohibits based on recent
House bills and many others.

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we partner with residents and cities, even submitting an amicus brief to the texas supreme
Court for the grapevine case.

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we also work to prevent state legislation that would keep cities from dealing with strs
And have been very successful to date.

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I bring to you not only my personal experiences, but the collective voice of a community
That cares deeply about preserving the sanctity of our neighborhoods.

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I want to express my gratitude to the city officials and city attorney for their hard work
In crafting the revised str ordinance.

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our coalition leaders have thoroughly reviewed it, and our consensus is clear.

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it's well thought out, comprehensive and defensible based on current court cases.

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your dedication to addressing the disruptions caused by strs is appreciated.

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now back in 2018 my family experienced first hand the misery of an str next door, as you
Just heard from my daughter.

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it was like having a local restaurant, lively outdoor deck and party area practically in
Our backyard morning, noon and night.

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noise permeating throughout the house. We would have moved.

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but thankfully the str sold after you passed the 2018 ordinance. Unfortunately, many grapevine residents have not been as fortunate and some have moved
Because of it.

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while not all strs are disruptive, many are.

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the facts show they catered to large groups of vacationers, contribute to increased
Crime, worsen housing situations, provide minimal economic benefits to the city, and

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essentially destroy the fabric of neighborhoods. The revised str ordinance is a step in the right direction, but our work is not done.

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stay vigilant. Some will try and skirt the ordinance, and we also have to monitor court cases.

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and of course, there are well-funded organizations that are constantly trying to turn our
Residential neighborhoods into de facto business districts, not only airbnb and

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vrbo, but others think swimply, peerspace and many others.

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in conclusion, I urge you to support the revised ordinance and recognize the strength that
Comes from long term residents living in neighborhood

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communities. Let us continue to uphold the values that make grapevine a wonderful place
To call home.

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thank you. Thank you. Next, tracy minton, 1333 dublin street in grapevine.

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thank you so much. My name is tracy minton I live at 1333 dublin street in grapevine.

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our family has lived here in this community for ten years. We have four properties in which we pay taxes on all those properties.

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we have two homes that we rent out through airbnb.

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we currently rent them out for 30 days or more.

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we've never had one complaint from any of our neighbors.

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and I think that having the airbnb use utilizing that application helps us to keep what
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describe, as problematic tenants.

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if you were to have that same some of those same problem, people rent out your house,
Your next door neighbor's house for a year, you're stuck with them for a year.

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if I have an airbnb person who comes in for 30 days and they're terrible tenants, they're
Out and you don't have to deal with them anymore.

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so I would suggest that it's probably more protective.

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I do have a couple of rhetorical questions. I'd like to understand how much grapevine has spent of taxpayer dollars to fight the
Texas supreme court that's already ruled in favor of short term

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rentals. I would also like to understand how you would feel if the government came in to
Tell you what to do in your home.

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texas tax code chapter 156 shows that short term rentals are not banned or restricted by
The landlord tenant law.

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texas property code, chapter 92 as in part of the tax code, chapter 156, implicitly
Preempts the city's short term rentals ordinance from 2018.

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this law can be looked up in the city's appellate court case of appeals number 021900257
Cv on page

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40 of its opinion. On page 46, the appellate opinion is stated.

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texas common property law preserves the right of leasing as a basic sacred property right
And zoning ordinance has allowed short term rentals to property owners in the state to

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have historic basic protection for their leasing rights and for any duration of time.

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in court the city claims there has been an explosion of short term rentals in grapevine,
And I don't believe that that's true.

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there are approximately 40. I'm not even sure that that's a good number. It seems there's about 27 in operation, and the city has approved approximately 9,000
Hotel rooms for occupancy in grapevine.

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the hotels are where the explosion is, and it's definitely not the strs.

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it seems the hotels have the city's favor since the 2018, when the vin and marriott came
To town.

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that's when it began to be a problem for residents like myself to rent out their homes
Short term.

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the city has taken our tax dollars and hired one of the most expensive law firms in our
County to drag out the current homeowners lawsuit against the city for five and a half

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years. And it's still not over. The city dragged this suit to the texas supreme court, knowing all the while that texas
Property laws don't support their standing.

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several of our local homeowners put large amounts of money towards protecting their
Vested rights and interests to lease our property short term.

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continuing this course of discrimination against short term rentals will surely incite
Future lawsuits.

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there are residents in multi-family units, as well as in other residential communities
That can be affected in some form.

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the city's favor towards hotels should tell the homeowners where the city's priorities
Lie, and it's not in the homeowners constitutional rights.

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there's there is a strong objection to city's ruling and limitations on short term
Rentals.

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I would also add that many of the people who rent out their homes is utilizing this as
Rental income.

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I would be one of those people. The using using strs like airbnb or vrbo

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you have 30 seconds to wrap it up. Wrap it up. All right.

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thank you. Thank you for your time. I appreciate your service. Thank you.

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next. Try to stick to three minutes everybody is running over.

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chuck larson, 2924 trail lake drive in grapevine.

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mayor. City council. I'll keep mine to three minutes.

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thank you. I'd appreciate it.

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I've only got a couple of things to say. It's not that long deal. But, number one, I'm 75, I rented, I started, airbnb in 2016.

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the city said it was fine. I brought it along. It's become part of my retirement.

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and I would venture to say that 3 or 4 people that have spoken tonight are also over 65,
And it's part of their retirement.

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and so it's like you own a convenience store and suddenly you build all this money and
You spend it and refurbish the place and suddenly you can't do it anymore.

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I mean, and again, just like the lady said before, it's legal.

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people say people cite things like, you know, but six years ago, they had a bad neighbor
One time,

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that happens. I mean, you have bad neighbors that aren't renters.

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they're just bad neighbors. And so I, I just I'm I'm confused.

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I don't understand the reason for it. I see that, you know, the hotels are moving in and the pressure is building, but there's
Just a few of us, is

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there not something that we can come to a compromise and say, maybe put a little tax on
It to make it more profitable city?

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john peralta and I live on the same street, main street on north main, and nobody
Nobody's going to the big hotels.

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they come in to go to main street. My place has three bedrooms.

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I always have three couples in there, and I have a backyard for dogs because they can't
Afford to stay in the hotels, and if they do, they're going to run down 114 out

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of grapevine where they can they can not spend their tax dollars in grapevine, or they
Can't get to main street as easily.

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all I'm saying is this, is there's something we can work out for the small amount of 40
People, 40 or 30 or 20 or whatever it is, I don't know, but that's all I've got

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to say. Thank you very much. Thank you sir. You did stay within the three minutes.

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thank you. All right.

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william loeb, 1937, north port court in grapevine.

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council members, commissioners and mayor tate.

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I'll stay within three minutes also. My name is william loeb.

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my wife is lois loeb. She's over there. We've been homeowners in grapevine for 28 years.

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we've owned a short term rental airbnb, since the fall of 2016.

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and it's by the grace of god that we set up our strp.

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it is by the grace of god that we continue to thrive with it, and it is by the grace of
God that we will continue with it.

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and I would like to point out something like the gentleman ahead of me said, as we we
Were basically told it was legal.

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as we were considering investing lois's inheritance in a property in grapevine, our
Realtor advised us to check with the city to make sure it wouldn't violate any laws

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or rules or regulations. Lois called the city and questioned around and was transferred around a number of times.

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and finally some lady said, wait, are you talking about your own property that you want
To rent out?

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yes, you can do that. Wait. Yes, you can do what you want with your own property.

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so I'd like to say that again. Yes, you can do what you want with your own property.

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so we moved ahead and invested a quarter million dollars in a home in grapevine.

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and remember, it's 2016 and a considerable amount of our time into this strp.

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and now it seems like the rules are changing. And I was going to ask why, but it sounds like I shouldn't be asking questions, so I'll
Thank you for your time.

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thank you. Thank you sir. All right. Next. Lori [inaudible] 1719 silver side drive in grapevine.

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hi dear city council and my neighbors and grapevine.

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I'm lori teets and I am for the updated str zoning zoning ordinance 821773.

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during these last six years, because of the current pending court case, I have lived next
To an str in our single family neighborhood.

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and there's been. And here's a bit of what it's like. I've had thousands of transient strangers next to me and I would not raise a child, pull
The mic down a little bit.

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oh, sorry about that. Thanks. I'm short.

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I would not raise child in my house. It's not safe.

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this is not a typical airbnb for a couple of people or family, for it is high density
Str.

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it advertises to sleep 26. It's a 24/7 business operation.

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large numbers, huge variety, vacationing people, nobody on site and out of town owner.

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so the so-called managing of the crowds is me and our neighbors calling the police.

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for example, I called police not too long ago, 2:00 in the morning, loud partying noises,
One car there and guess what?

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there was approximately 20 people highly intoxicated was the police report.

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there's been constant activity, especially at night.

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beeping cars, banging gate for years, not fixed, ignored by the notifications, people
Cutting across my lawn

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to go to and from the lake, asking to go back into my backyard to retrieve items because
The pool in the deck are even with the top of the fence.

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people can see into my house and I can see them. So trash and beach balls and whatever items can easily come into my yard.

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I've had ubers go into my driveway, partly because the house numbers are difficult to
See, especially at night.

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I've had 24 cars next to me, valet parking, many large events.

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there's been fights, yelling, pot smoking, photo shots, lots of drinking, jerry jeff
Walker to rap music.

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just just too much more. I have to mention the infrastructure for our sewers.

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they are made for single family homes. Plumbers have been there next door many a time.

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one day, two days later, after the plumbers were there, my toilet me one person.

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at that time, my plumber said my line was clear.

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the blockage was at the street. High density strs greatly affected my life and my right to have sanctuary and enjoyment
In my in my

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home. The problem is there's no consistency like there would be a normal neighbor.

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life within a str is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get every day or every night, but hey, it's their
Vacation time.

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so regardless if I have to work the next day. Without restrictions, this easily could happen to any house that comes up for sale next
Door and is brought bought by an out of town

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investor and then completely rebuilt into a high density vacation hotel.

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believe me, they are not our neighbors, and I thank you for your work and protecting our
Neighborhoods and keeping them safe.

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thank you, thank you, thank you. All right. Next, dennis brewer 1859 chris croft, grapevine.

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thank you council, for the opportunity to speak.

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despite zoning that goes back for many years in grapevine, apparently an inquiry was made
By an entrepreneur seeking to operate an str in a

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residentially zoned neighborhood. It is said that a city employee gave the impression that there did not appear to be
Actions taken to make strs comply with the in place

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zoning restrictions. Those in the str industry use that response as an excuse to ignore existing zoning laws,
Betting that there would be no

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consequences, just big money. Approximately five years ago, the str issue came to a head and the council voted against
Allowing these commercial enterprises to operate in residential

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areas. Thanks to the grapevine city council for having taken that action, it put a a
Moratorium

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on new strs, which I feel saved our family from having an str right next door to our our
Home.

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I believe that we would all agree that having an str as your next door neighbor would be
Very undesirable.

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slightly analogous to our southern border situation.

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the proliferation of strs in grapevine and cities worldwide has brought unwanted
Activities, including criminal behavior, down upon legal

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inhabitants. Homeowners and long term renters have thought that they had bought and
Rented homes with a blanket contract of of

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zoning ordinances to protect them from commercial, unscrupulous and undesired activities,
Which can be right next door to

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them. Dallas, for example, despite their city council and a sitting, a strong coalition
Has not been able to rein in the

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str industry. Strs can be great when they follow the rules and don't trample the rights of others.

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however, the the huge money involved will keep the str business looking for ways to skirt
The rules.

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it is incumbent upon the council, the city legal staff, code enforcement and us citizens
To be vigilant and enforce our zoning laws and help keep,

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help, maintain grapevine as a family first city, I feel that your new ordinance is a
Great step in that direction,

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thanks to the city of grapevine for their efforts to keep grapevine a great place to call
Home.

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thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you very much. Next. Keith pardue 1420mockingbird in grapevine.

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good evening, mr. Mayor and city council. My name is keith pardue. I live at 1420 mockingbird.

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it's in the north side of the city. I've been there, my wife and I've been there more than 35 years.

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we live next door to, a short term rental. We live two houses from a short term rental, so two houses to one side and the next door
Neighbor to the other side.

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the one place has been there for more than five years.

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I am speaking in favor of this proposed amendment.

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I don't think that there should be strs in any residential neighborhood.

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several people have mentioned the 9,000 hotels we have here in grapevine, but there's not
A marriott on mockingbird.

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let me just say this. I've been there a long time. There are no hotels in my neighborhood, and I don't think there should be any strs.

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there have been issues, at the one next door to us. Not a lot, but there have been issues.

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and so we just. I'm speaking for my wife and I she's not here tonight, but we are just opposed to having
Any strs next door to me or the next street over or the street behind.

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so I'm in favor of this. Thanks for your time. Thank you very much, sir. Next, wendy.

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and I'm sorry I can't read your last name. 1609 crestwood trail in keller.

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hello. Thank you. I'm wendy bok, and keller is where we live. But we also have a short term rental on wharf street in grapevine.

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we purchased it in 2016 and we came like many others and said, you know, are we able to
Do this?

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we even got a $5,000 check because we made big improvements on our home.

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it's an historical, it's actually an historical home. I do feel sorry for all of you who have.

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I really didn't come prepared to talk, so I don't have anything to read or anything like
That. But I feel sorry for people who have bad experiences with bad neighbors or, short term
Rental people.

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I don't have any problems with any of mine and my neighbors. I call on them and say, if you ever have any problems, you give me a call and we'll make
Sure to kick those people out, because people that have

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airbnb and vrbo. They are we we we have to give them a good review, just like they give us a good review.

357
00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:40,010
so anybody that I've ever had any kind of problems with, they are not no longer able to
Come to my home.

358
00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:47,390
and I just believe that if we have to pay a permit fee or anything like that, I'm okay
With that.

359
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:53,150
I pay my taxes, my house has gone up in value, and I just want to make sure that, you
Know, it's y'all are treated everything fair.

360
00:47:03,020 --> 00:47:03,020
that's all I have to say. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you ma'am.

361
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,080
next, gregory johnson, 1658 chateau circle in grapevine.

362
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:16,780
good evening, ladies and gentlemen, I'm greg.

363
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:21,760
I'm here to speak about please don't restrict short term rentals.

364
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,870
restrict the bad behavior because it's not. It's people that are causing the issues with some of these people.

365
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,680
and I've heard some exaggeration also. But it's our property.

366
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:37,380
if it's if it's ethical, if it's moral, then what issue do you guys have with it?

367
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,060
thanks. Have a good evening. Thank you. Next. I don't have any more. All right.

368
00:47:50,610 --> 00:47:54,300
all right. Do you have anything further? Madam chairman? No.

369
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,250
any questions? Or does council have anything further?

370
00:48:00,830 --> 00:48:03,240
all right. You need a motion to close.

371
00:48:04,990 --> 00:48:07,340
motion to close. Second. All in favor?

372
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:09,400
zoning commission has voted, closed the public hearing, a motion from the council.

373
00:48:13,810 --> 00:48:16,700
close the public hearing. Second. All in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.

374
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,850
public hearing is closed. Public hearing is open on conditional use permits. Cu 23-36.

375
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:28,210
this is the old hickory at the gaylord texan. Erica marohnic. This request is to expand the existing building footprint, revise exterior
Elevations, and revise the floor plan to an existing old

376
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,000
hickory restaurant on the ground floor of the gaylord texan resort.

377
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:42,080
the subject property is currently zoned pcd planned commerce development district.

378
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:47,120
this resort has an existing conditional use permit as part of a planned commercial center
For the possession, storage and retail sale of alcohol in conjunction with the restaurant,

379
00:48:56,810 --> 00:48:59,060
hotel and convention center. The proposal before you this evening includes a portion of the existing outdoor courtyard
For this restaurant to allow for 1,400 square foot

380
00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:10,130
restaurant expansion. The expansion revises the hotel's western elevation and expands the floor plan of the
Restaurant's ground floor.

381
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:16,040
the main access of the two level restaurant is from an interior corridor within the
Resort and hotel building.

382
00:49:23,540 --> 00:49:23,540
this expansion also includes an additional 76 seats, for a total of 369 seats for the
Restaurant total.

383
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:34,100
this concludes staff's presentation. The applicant's representative, mr. Kevin carlson with hewitt zollars, is here this evening, and mr.

384
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:37,500
albems with the gaylord texan resort is also here this evening to answer any questions
That the commission and council may have.

385
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:48,310
thank you. Madam chairman. Questions. Questions.

386
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:18,200
I don't have a whole lot to add, but, kevin carlson with hewitt zollars, as was discussed.

387
00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:25,220
there you go. You can see on your screen there, it's a mainly from the standpoint of the
Exterior.

388
00:50:31,340 --> 00:50:31,340
you've got the patio courtyard that was there that's going to be replaced with this
Conservatory, kind of glassed in, about 1,400 square feet addition.

389
00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:42,170
and then also the restaurant, existing restaurant is going to be renovated.

390
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:46,370
alcohol storage is going to be in the same, same locations, that it is today.

391
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:57,110
happy to answer any questions if there are any. Any questions?

392
00:50:58,340 --> 00:50:58,340
is this the first renovation of old hickory since the opening, or has it been renovated
Before?

393
00:51:03,770 --> 00:51:03,770
it is the first. Okay.

394
00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:09,980
a nice rendering. Any other questions? Are you adding seating there in the conservatory?

395
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:15,170
there will be seating in there. It's the added 76 approximately seats.

396
00:51:18,620 --> 00:51:18,620
thank you. Have anyone wishing to

397
00:51:28,450 --> 00:51:31,270
speak? No, your honor. Any correspondence? No, sir. All right. You need a motion to close the public hearing.

398
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:34,950
close. Second. All in favor?

399
00:51:43,610 --> 00:51:46,180
second. All in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.

400
00:51:48,250 --> 00:51:48,250
public hearing on cu 23-36 is closed.

401
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:52,960
public hearing is now open on conditional use permit cu 23-37 great wolf lodge.

402
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:00,370
erica marohnic. This is a request to add a new vestibule to the existing front entrance of the great wolf
Lodge resort.

403
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:09,430
additionally, they are adding a statue to the main entrance and an additional outdoor
Adventure trail to the rear of the existing building.

404
00:52:16,780 --> 00:52:16,780
the subject property is currently zoned cc community commercial district.

405
00:52:21,310 --> 00:52:21,310
this resort has an existing conditional use permit as part of a planned commercial center
That allows for the possession, storage and retail sale of alcoholic beverages in

406
00:52:29,950 --> 00:52:33,280
conjunction with the hotel, waterpark and outdoor speakers. The applicant's proposal includes a 321 square foot, 15 foot tall vestibule located
Underneath the hotel's main entry porte cochere

407
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:43,240
. Ten existing trees are proposed to be removed as part of this addition and replaced with
29 new trees, which are proposed in line with the southbound vehicle driveway.

408
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:52,960
in addition, a 14 foot tall wolf statue is proposed on the west side of the southbound
Vehicle drive adjacent to the main entry porte cochere.

409
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:01,240
and lastly, a 3,800 square foot, 30 foot tall outdoor adventure trail, or play structure
Is proposed in the rear of the subject site and a grass covered area

410
00:53:10,780 --> 00:53:13,900
adjacent to an existing outdoor ropes course. The applicant's representative, mr.

411
00:53:15,850 --> 00:53:15,850
billy avila, is here this evening to answer any questions that the commission and council
May have.

412
00:53:22,060 --> 00:53:22,060
thank you.

413
00:53:31,980 --> 00:53:33,480
good evening, billy avila. Just here if there are any questions or concerns regarding the proposal.

414
00:53:39,050 --> 00:53:41,310
any questions? Can you speak a little about the safety of the adventure?

415
00:53:45,630 --> 00:53:45,630
what's it called? Adventure outdoor adventure trail where employees are going to be
Stationed and what kind of training do they have?

416
00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:52,770
yeah, as per some of the existing, adventure trail that are on property, there would be
Employees monitoring these stations.

417
00:54:00,570 --> 00:54:00,570
they would be trained in safety and therefore the guests at all times.

418
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:05,880
is it designed more for adults, children, everybody?

419
00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:11,970
it's all inclusive. So it'd be for children and available for adults as well.

420
00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:15,150
thank you.

421
00:54:26,340 --> 00:54:28,020
where is that going to be exactly? That would be just off, adjacent to the existing porte cochere, part of the the proposed
Renovation is to update the porte cochere.

422
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,440
there's some existing, wolf statues that would be on there. So those would be coming down to, to be more, standard architecture on, on the porte
Cochere.

423
00:54:45,330 --> 00:54:45,330
so we would this would become the photo opportunity for the guests that are there
Currently.

424
00:54:51,050 --> 00:54:53,880
the porte cochere has the themed elements on there. And when guests are coming in there to take photographs, they're kind of getting in the
Way of the vehicular traffic as well.

425
00:54:59,610 --> 00:54:59,610
so this creates a much safer environment for the photo opportunities for the guests.

426
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:07,260
I'm sorry, what's the material of it? This would be a themed element.

427
00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:12,570
it'd be a mix of steel and shotcrete. Okay.

428
00:55:22,430 --> 00:55:22,430
very fond of those existing two wolves that are up there.

429
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:27,200
those were a couple of the elements that when we looked at great wolf properties in other
Parts of this country.

430
00:55:35,570 --> 00:55:35,570
we talked to the property owners about the need for it to fit into the texas theme.

431
00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:45,560
and and of course, we had wolves here at one time. May still have some somewhere, I don't know, other than backyards.

432
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:51,560
but those two wolves were a really good attraction whenever, the property was built.

433
00:55:58,730 --> 00:56:02,210
what are you going to do with those two wolves? Well, as I mentioned, those. The current wolves are in a state of disrepair, so there's ongoing maintenance that that
Has to go on with those elements in their current construction,

434
00:56:12,110 --> 00:56:12,110
as I mentioned. The their, the guests that come in there would like to take photos with
Those wolves for the obvious reasons.

435
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:19,190
and so and it does pose a challenge because of some of the vehicular access where they
Exist today.

436
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:25,100
so relocating this wolf and creating a plaza specifically for the wolf to represent the
What is the great wolf

437
00:56:34,970 --> 00:56:34,970
lodge and provide a much more safe environment for that activity.

438
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,440
all the kids and families want to take pictures around those wolves. This provides a better option and opportunity for them to do with the two existing wolves
That they will be removed off property, correct?

439
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:49,040
okay. Do you have a rendering that shows us what the front of your building is going to
Look like?

440
00:56:54,020 --> 00:56:56,600
I believe there was an elevation, as you mentioned. You were going to make some changes there.

441
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:58,280
yes. So is there another?

442
00:57:09,730 --> 00:57:12,030
so it's this one on the right. No this is showing the the the entry vestibule.

443
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:25,320
so will the new wolf be to out from the porte cochere won't be in the porte cochere area
At all?

444
00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:31,950
well, the new wolf statue. Excuse me? The new wolf statue will will be in that porte cochere area, just adjacent to
It.

445
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:39,120
the existing wolves themselves, the themed elements will be removed and we'll have,
Standard structure, wood clad structure.

446
00:57:52,530 --> 00:57:52,530
so the front end, I'm looking at a picture of it now, and it's going to look considerably
Different with those two big wolves gone.

447
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,930
and I understand the need to have one on a lower level for photo ops. I get that. I'm just trying to figure out, with those two very prominent wolves there,
It's going to really change the visual appearance of the front of the building

448
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:17,280
that was very dear to us whenever we approved the plans for it to be built. That's where I'm headed with this.

449
00:58:19,470 --> 00:58:19,470
yeah, I understand that the, the, the architecture of the porte cochere itself, where
Those wolves exist today, will will more match the

450
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:32,340
the esthetic of the architecture of the buildings themselves. As you're driving in, to the entry of the wolf plaza will be a prominent, similar to
Where those wolves are now.

451
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:40,140
so when you're entering the entry drive that the wolf statue will be the primary visible
Element, similar to to what those existing wolf statues

452
00:58:49,830 --> 00:58:49,830
are. And the front of the building, though itself, is going to look rather plain.

453
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:54,520
without these two prominent wolves there that are so part I mean it's it's the identity
Of the of the whole structure, the whole building.

454
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:04,230
I mean, I, you know, I think that it's going to, to the architecture itself is going to
Be more representative of the overall architecture of the building.

455
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:12,480
the wolf itself, as I mentioned, will be a rather large wolf structure in that same area.

456
00:59:18,930 --> 00:59:18,930
thank you. So so I get the the new wolf, and that will be in a place that's not as in the
Flow of traffic.

457
00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:26,460
what can we do to retain the existing wolves as well for the front structure, for the for
The visual appeal of the entry.

458
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:34,320
the current proposal is, is to create the new wolf statue at that entry area in place of
The wolf.

459
00:59:41,290 --> 00:59:41,290
and what can we change about that to retain the existing wolves or at least replace them
In those places?

460
00:59:47,370 --> 00:59:49,440
we would have to evaluate that. They're old and in disrepair.

461
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:53,700
they're in disrepair. We can replace them. I mean, they can be updated, but I do think that they are part of the the appeal of the
Of the entry area.

462
00:59:59,010 --> 01:00:02,430
yes. I think the struggle is we're not able to see the visual. I'm sure that great wolf has thought through what the visual will look like, so that it's
Still honors [inaudible] what everybody's talking about here.

463
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:12,960
it's just that we don't see what that visual is. So we're probably help at some point.

464
01:00:15,420 --> 01:00:15,420
not that it might hurt the approval, I don't know, but it would help for us to be able to
See visually what that's going to look like.

465
01:00:21,540 --> 01:00:23,790
sure. Yeah. On the on the package that we submitted. Yeah. On the package we submitted, there was an elevation that shows the, the
Simplification of the, of the porte cochere when you remove those wolf

466
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:33,300
statues. Again, you know, the

467
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:37,360
just say you're going to put them somewhere else on site.

468
01:00:43,950 --> 01:00:47,250
we will do our best. It would help. Yeah. And that that was the purpose of the, of the new wolf is to, to to maintain that
Esthetic, you know, and the opportunity I think they know what they're

469
01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:56,940
doing. I think there was you know are seen from the street, it does the facility I think,
That

470
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:08,280
they have been an important element, I understand and have seen people taking pictures.

471
01:01:14,910 --> 01:01:14,910
I wish you would have maybe posted those as no picture areas and tried to, provided an
Alternate for pictures, you know, when they

472
01:01:24,780 --> 01:01:27,870
enter the building rather than taking those away. I hate to see them go.

473
01:01:28,980 --> 01:01:28,980
I think that's your prerogative, probably, though, and not ours, but I think it is a big
Step bigger than probably you think.

474
01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:40,740
it seems to me there was a more sensible way of, of handling the problem than taking away
Your your best

475
01:01:49,890 --> 01:01:53,220
advertisement. This new wolf looks pretty impressive. How is how much bigger is it in comparison to the other two?

476
01:01:56,790 --> 01:01:58,050
bigger, same size? It's. I mean, it's going to be, I believe the size of that will will match the somewhere
Near the the the size of the porte cochere itself.

477
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,670
and so it's going to be of good size. And as I mentioned, when you're driving in, it will become the first element that you
See.

478
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,090
similar to the way the existing wolves are today. You might think about putting a wolf out on close to the entryway so it designates it's
Something different.

479
01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:23,460
it's not just another hotel or another, where, office building or something.

480
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,710
I think it I think that is important. I would hope you would consider doing something like that.

481
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,310
I will relay that. Go ahead. No, you go ahead, mr. Rumbelow when great wolf lodge was visiting with us and we were, of course, wanting them
To come, did we give incentives to great

482
01:02:48,180 --> 01:02:51,990
wolf lodge to come to grapevine? We did. Okay. Yes, ma'am we did.

483
01:02:53,010 --> 01:02:54,900
and as I recall, it was substantial. And the wolves were a part of the project that they committed to do.

484
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,370
they would have been at that time. Yes, your honor. Yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you.

485
01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:08,700
kind of surprised I'm talking about wolves right now, but I just looked at the pictures. There's currently four wolves.

486
01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:12,000
are we getting rid of all four of them? The wolves that are associated with the with the porte cochere.

487
01:03:14,910 --> 01:03:17,280
so the ones on top as well. Correct. Okay. Just just asking.

488
01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:21,710
I would like for you just to consider some other options to retain or have more wolves.

489
01:03:27,900 --> 01:03:31,120
I'm sorry, I can't hardly not laugh about this conversation. That's the signature of your property.

490
01:03:33,030 --> 01:03:34,620
it is? Yeah. And again, that's why, you know, I don't know if we could go back to one of the slides so
You can kind of show the proximity of, of on the site where if you see where the blue

491
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:44,560
porte cochere is, just adjacent to it, the circle, that's where the new wolf statue will
Will exist.

492
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:51,840
and so, as I mentioned, when you're coming in the entry drive, that will become your
Primary focal point of those wolves.

493
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,140
I understand that, and I'm okay with your new wolf. I'm okay with your I'm okay with the new wolf.

494
01:04:03,210 --> 01:04:03,210
I see it's over 14ft tall.

495
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,080
no it'll be right by the porte cochere.

496
01:04:18,130 --> 01:04:21,030
no, it's going to be on the back. No, it's going to be right here on the front. They're going to take those two down and put that little one right here.

497
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:24,240
you know, the other great wolf lodge is that I've been to were made of logs.

498
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:28,470
you could tell that it was a lodge just by, you know, seeing it from a distance.

499
01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:37,200
this one was done in a different concept. And that's why those wolves were there to show it was something different.

500
01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:42,990
so I think it's a business decision for you all, but I really think you need to think
Through it further than the safety issue.

501
01:04:51,390 --> 01:04:51,390
you need to do it from an advertising and a really promoting the hotel to do something
Out front.

502
01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:00,030
that's not going to be convenient for people to stop and take pictures.

503
01:05:10,540 --> 01:05:10,540
as the great wolf resorts have gone into renovate some of their other properties as well.

504
01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:16,830
they've, they've, established this statue in those areas as well because of the fondness
That everybody has with with the wolves and the

505
01:05:26,730 --> 01:05:29,190
photo opportunities that, that they're taking with them. And maybe through the expansion, if you do the expansion, you can do something there on
That that's not accessible to the public.

506
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,620
you could put maybe some wolves out on those land. Of the new additions that that I've seen, that might be an option too.

507
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:48,780
yeah, I'll raise that with the team. Yeah. Anything else?

508
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,960
nothing. Thank you very much. Thank you. Do we have any one wishing to speak?

509
01:05:57,930 --> 01:06:01,340
no, your honor, do we have any correspondents? No, sir. Need a motion to close.

510
01:06:03,050 --> 01:06:04,750
move to close, second. All in favor? Commission closed, a motion from the council moved to close second.

511
01:06:11,950 --> 01:06:14,080
all in favor? All opposed. Public hearing was closed on cu 23-37.

512
01:06:18,970 --> 01:06:18,970
public hearing is open on historic district landmark sub-district hl 23-3, erica
Marohnic.

513
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:27,840
the applicant is requesting a historic landmark sub-district designation for a property
Located at 220 blevins street and platted as block 1 lot 3, ratliff addition.

514
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:37,840
the property is presently zoned r7.5 single family district, and the subject site is
Developed as a single family residence on approximately

515
01:06:46,270 --> 01:06:46,270
14,000ft². The single family residence was constructed in 2006 and was designed by a
Well-known architect, david webster george, who was a fellow of

516
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,610
frank lloyd wright's. The subject property was also once part of the yancy farm, which joined the historic
Thomas j.

517
01:07:02,410 --> 01:07:04,750
nash farm of 1860. Excuse me, 1859.

518
01:07:06,730 --> 01:07:06,730
the historic preservation commission has approved this request at their meeting on
December 13th, 2023.

519
01:07:13,540 --> 01:07:16,750
the city's historic preservation officer, mr. David klempin, is here this evening and he's available to answer any specific questions
You may have relative to the request, as well as the applicant and owner mr.

520
01:07:25,150 --> 01:07:28,780
dr. Curtis ratliff is here as well this evening. Thank you. Question.

521
01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:38,190
no questions from the council.

522
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:47,110
have any one wishing to speak? No, sir. Correspondence? No, sir. Does the applicant have anything?

523
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:54,380
madam chairman, we need a motion to close. Move to close. Second.

524
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,030
all in favor? Commission closed. Motion from the council.

525
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,470
move to close. Second. All in favor? All opposed?

526
01:08:05,930 --> 01:08:07,100
motion carries. Public hearing is closed on hl 23-3.

527
01:08:10,970 --> 01:08:10,970
public hearing is now open on transit district overlay td023-03 grapevine

528
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:23,160
brownstones phase two. The final plat of lot 2 block 1 hasten addition, erica marohnic.

529
01:08:28,850 --> 01:08:28,850
this is a request for transit district overlay to allow for a condominium development of
18 units on a 1.24 acre lot.

530
01:08:36,450 --> 01:08:36,450
the subject site is located on the south side of east dallas road and north of nash
Street.

531
01:08:41,970 --> 01:08:44,790
presently zoned li light industrial district. This is the second phase of the grapevine brownstones phase one project, which was
Approved to the immediate west with 10 condominium units, which has begun construction.

532
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:54,600
this project was initially heard and denied by the council and commission without
Prejudice.

533
01:08:59,460 --> 01:08:59,460
at a joint meeting of the council and commission at the november 21st, 2023 meeting, and
At that time they were proposing 20 condominium units on the same lot.

534
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:08,520
since this meeting, the applicant has substantially revised their site plan, removing two
End units from the centrally located building, bringing the net density from approximately

535
01:09:17,970 --> 01:09:17,970
16 dwelling units an acre to 14.5 dwelling units per acre, making it closer in density to
Phase one to the west.

536
01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:25,260
in addition, through the removal of the two units, the site has gained four additional off
Street parking spaces for guests and two courtyard areas totaling

537
01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:38,010
2,300ft² of additional open space within those courtyards. Condominiums are identified as an appropriate use within the high intensity sub-district
Of the transit district overlay.

538
01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:44,220
with this, the request the applicant intends to demolish the existing 5,000 square foot
One story professional office building, associated parking and vehicle maneuvering

539
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,910
area on the south side of east dallas. Five structures will feature the 18 units, with 3 immediately fronting both east nash
Street and 3 fronting east dallas road, and all units will

540
01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:06,900
appear as brownstones, but will not be on fee simple lots, but will be condominium
Ownership.

541
01:10:13,020 --> 01:10:13,020
the maximum height will be four stories 51ft with three story's under air, with a fourth
Story as a rooftop terrace with cupola featuring at least three bedrooms in each

542
01:10:22,860 --> 01:10:26,190
unit with at least a two car garage. The site will have two access points, one from east dallas road, one from east nash
Street, and an internal access point from the north to south, which is also shown on the

543
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,500
associated final plat. Attached as an exhibit to this agenda memo is an affidavit of compliance signed by the
Project architect, stating the project follows both the design standards manual for

544
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:46,320
multifamily and vertical mixed use development and the transit district overlay design
Standards.

545
01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:53,700
this concludes staff's presentation. The applicant, mr. Greg gifford with new city capital, is here this evening.

546
01:10:57,450 --> 01:10:57,450
he has prepared a presentation as to available to answer any questions that either the
Commission or council may have.

547
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:17,120
mayor members of council. Members of planning and zoning. Thank you for your time.

548
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:18,200
my name is greg gifford. I live at 1701 dunn street here in grapevine.

549
01:11:22,610 --> 01:11:22,610
we presented this case, as erica mentioned, on the 21st and the the treatment of the case
Was extended to us without prejudice, which allowed us to listen to all the comments,

550
01:11:31,130 --> 01:11:34,670
recommendations and corrections. And we did that in detail. Brought to you tonight the revision of that, application.

551
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:39,440
the key, comments were reduce density, which we've done, green space, which we've done
With two courtyards and

552
01:11:49,370 --> 01:11:49,370
additional guest parking, which we've added with the guest parking with the courtyards.

553
01:11:54,380 --> 01:11:54,380
one of the one of the things that we took the opportunity to do was visit with, staff
And, and

554
01:12:04,230 --> 01:12:04,230
council to immediately get back on the, on the, on the train to get the revisions put
Together.

555
01:12:10,190 --> 01:12:10,190
we gathered our architects, landscape architect, civil engineer and all that goes into
Resubmitting an application.

556
01:12:17,150 --> 01:12:20,450
we turn that back in and tonight we'll show you the details of that. So, one of the things I wanted to comment on is that the the transit district is working.

557
01:12:24,830 --> 01:12:24,830
it is highly desirable homes.

558
01:12:29,180 --> 01:12:29,180
right. So, the excitement of the vin, the the total main street, harvest hall, peace
Plaza

559
01:12:40,130 --> 01:12:40,130
all contributes to a desirable living location, right in the core of our town.

560
01:12:45,140 --> 01:12:46,730
so we're excited about that. All homes on phase one are have been under contract for a while.

561
01:12:50,270 --> 01:12:53,090
on phase two, all 20 homes have been reserved. Now there's 18 and we have a waiting list of about 22 more.

562
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:56,600
so clearly the demand for excitable living and quality living in the core of of the
Dallas street corridor is attractive.

563
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,510
so we want to thank you guys for allowing us to present. I'd like to invite jason back to give you the details.

564
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:17,910
good evening. Planning and zoning, city council. I'm jason beck. I'm a partner with greg on the grapevine brownstones project.

565
01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:21,900
I wanted to take I wanted to echo greg's thanks and allowing us to come back and answer
Some of the finer points that both p&z and council gave to us in november.

566
01:13:31,020 --> 01:13:31,020
and our key takeaways from that, like greg said, were, overall reduction in residence
Density, add more green space and more parking.

567
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,820
and I wanted to take the next slide to show exactly how we did that. And what the positive consequences of having done that are.

568
01:13:46,890 --> 01:13:48,990
so this is our revised site plan. You can see we've removed those two residences, which have established more green space
At the northern and southern ends of our row houses, as we call them.

569
01:13:59,280 --> 01:13:59,280
those are going to be, that's basically allowing us to do all three of our key takeaways
From november, which are to reduce our density.

570
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:07,440
also, allow us to increase our overall guest parking.

571
01:14:12,030 --> 01:14:15,990
and also, increase the green space. So what we think we've come back with, is a really good answer for what the for p&z and
Council requested to bring a more residential,

572
01:14:26,130 --> 01:14:26,130
less dense feel into the high intensity transit district.

573
01:14:33,010 --> 01:14:33,010
this rendering is an illustration of our northern courtyard, which we're going to
Landscape with juniper and maple trees.

574
01:14:39,580 --> 01:14:42,760
this is this point of view is looking west towards phase one. You can kind of see the the phase one home through there.

575
01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:47,260
it really ties in both phase one and phase two, creating a more compelling, greenspace
Area between the two.

576
01:15:00,930 --> 01:15:00,930
this is the other end of that courtyard, kind of showing how phase one and phase two are
Going to be drawn together and activates that green space area.

577
01:15:11,260 --> 01:15:11,260
and then on our southern end towards east nash street, we're providing equally high
Foliage with junipers and maples, place to sit, as well as additional guest parking.

578
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:21,400
with the reduction of those two homes, we've increased our overall guest parking by, our
General guest parking rather by four.

579
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:29,680
our total guests our total parking on the site is 58, with 22 of those being off, off
Street guest parking.

580
01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:40,070
I wanted to briefly touch on, our collaboration with architects through the tdo.

581
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:45,830
and what we've been able to create directly across from harvest hall and then, two doors
Down from the brewery and stellini.

582
01:15:53,450 --> 01:15:53,450
like greg said, without rehashing, we've, we think we've been able to create a product
That's luxury and walkable, for a lot of folks.

583
01:16:01,010 --> 01:16:01,010
and that's been resonating, in a lot of ways throughout the market.

584
01:16:07,970 --> 01:16:11,330
again, this is going to be our nash street frontage. And we think that this is also going to be able to really bring the rec closer to the
Transit district with a direct cut through, between the bringing

585
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,440
nash street all the way up to dallas. Finally, we just want to thank you again for the ability to come back and make this
Better.

586
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:29,000
pending any questions, this is going to conclude our presentation.

587
01:16:41,250 --> 01:16:44,960
any questions? Any questions from council?

588
01:16:48,270 --> 01:16:48,270
I just want to say thank you for coming back with being so positive and coming back with
A good solution to the issues that we had.

589
01:16:54,900 --> 01:16:54,900
thank you ma'am. So you are not proposing to change the zoning?

590
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:02,600
you're wanting to keep the light industrial zoning on this tract and build townhouses on
It.

591
01:17:10,580 --> 01:17:10,580
so without based on our previous trajectory, we started off with the tdo as a,

592
01:17:20,090 --> 01:17:20,090
without yes, we with our our current proposal, it would be existing li.

593
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,080
but, that wasn't really something that we went into when we rooted our application.

594
01:17:34,910 --> 01:17:34,910
we just viewed the tdo as our ordinance to go through, in order to create this product.

595
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,300
okay. The renderings are lovely. Would you agree to rezone it to the use that you're going to put on the property?

596
01:17:47,660 --> 01:17:51,050
would you absolutely do that? Absolutely. All right. I noticed that the walkways on the drawing, if I'm looking at it correctly, are five feet
Wide.

597
01:17:57,530 --> 01:17:57,530
the tdo requires eight feet.

598
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,450
it doesn't appear that that's [inaudible]. I'm sorry where, ma'am?

599
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,760
the walkways on nash, as well as on east dallas road. The walkways are shown to be five feet wide.

600
01:18:14,910 --> 01:18:14,910
as well as there's a three foot one in a couple of places in the interior.

601
01:18:19,740 --> 01:18:19,740
and the ordinance requires that they be a minimum of eight feet wide.

602
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,440
and that does not be something that is variable. So I'm wondering if perhaps it was a mistake or maybe it was an oversight, because I'm
Sure you'd want to meet the requirements of the ordinance.

603
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:37,350
sure. Yes, ma'am.

604
01:18:46,610 --> 01:18:49,760
I have a I'm going to ask to use the document camera real quick. I have my, my packet that I'll point too on here that [inaudible].

605
01:18:54,890 --> 01:18:54,890
certainly.

606
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:18,560
oh. Thank you.

607
01:19:31,230 --> 01:19:34,260
it's a five foot walk, so it's comparable to what we're doing here? Yes. Okay. Thank you.

608
01:20:09,890 --> 01:20:09,890
I wanted to show the illustration on the bottom, but also in the packet we have the
Letter from architects.

609
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:16,700
yes, sir. That when we go when we went through that with craig and robin, we talked about
Based on the property

610
01:20:26,510 --> 01:20:26,510
as it exists now, what is a what is the proper fit?

611
01:20:30,740 --> 01:20:30,740
what is what is what is doable based on the property as it is right now.

612
01:20:36,710 --> 01:20:36,710
and the the product that we came up with was a five foot landscape zone, the five foot
Walk, and then the five foot, essentially green space in

613
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,250
between the sidewalk and the homes. And based on the property lines as they are, that was, determined by architects and our
Architect to be the proper way to treat it.

614
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:57,830
okay. You're going to tear down the building that's on the property now, if I recall
Correctly.

615
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:03,320
so you're basically going to have a flat piece of property to design a project that would
Fit with the current ordinance, which requires the eight foot sidewalk.

616
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,200
that's where I'm headed. And it is a requirement in there and I see that your architect said that you all
Basically met the requirements.

617
01:21:18,410 --> 01:21:18,410
and I think that's why I thought perhaps he had overlooked that one, since it is a
Requirement of the ordinance.

618
01:21:23,060 --> 01:21:24,470
that's why I asked the question. The area that I'm looking at is on the site plan, and it does show five feet over there
On nash street and over on east dallas road as well.

619
01:21:31,310 --> 01:21:34,340
and that's where I got that. So thank you for your for your answer. Yes, ma'am. Anything else?

620
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,540
all right. Thank you very much. Is there anyone wishing to speak? No, your honor, any correspondence?

621
01:21:50,260 --> 01:21:53,950
no, sir. Madam chairman, we need a motion to close. Move to close. Second.

622
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:56,080
all in favor?

623
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:13,120
of lots two block, one of the [inaudible] that completes the joint public hearings
Between the council and the planning zoning commission.

624
01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:24,670
the commission will now recess to their separate meeting. The council will pick up with this agenda shortly.

625
01:22:30,690 --> 01:22:33,570
agenda is citizen comments any. Do we have any requests tonight?

626
01:22:35,220 --> 01:22:36,570
yes sir, I have two. Any person who's not scheduled on the agenda may address the city council under citizen
Comments on or on any other agenda item by completing a

627
01:22:46,130 --> 01:22:49,320
citizen's appearance request form with the city secretary. Member of the public may address the city council regarding an item on the agenda, either
Before or during the council's consideration of the item upon being

628
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,390
recognized by the mayor. Upon the consent of the city council, in accordance with the texas open meetings act, the
City council is restricted in discussing or taking action during citizen

629
01:23:09,690 --> 01:23:09,690
comments. There again, you sign a request to speak.

630
01:23:15,690 --> 01:23:18,060
you're given three minutes to make a statement. You're not to ask questions or ask for any response from the gallery is just to make a
Statement and that's

631
01:23:28,620 --> 01:23:28,620
it. And the council won't be able to respond either or to take any action.

632
01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:35,970
all right. You may go forward with the citizen comments. Thank you. Elizabeth d kaufman, 1210 [inaudible] street in grapevine.

633
01:23:46,940 --> 01:23:46,940
I know everybody's about at the end of their day here

634
01:23:57,290 --> 01:23:57,290
. So I just want to speak on behalf of the pedestrians and cyclists in the grapevine city.

635
01:24:03,710 --> 01:24:03,710
I think grapevine has made terrific progress, in making this more accessible city.

636
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:10,070
and I wanted to make a suggestion that we have a connectivity issue and just kind of
Plant this seed for everybody to take under their

637
01:24:19,850 --> 01:24:19,850
consideration that the only accessible route out of town right now, to the north or east
Is bass pro drive.

638
01:24:29,540 --> 01:24:29,540
and that intersection was just redone in the last few years.

639
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:34,790
but right now, eastbound bass pro drive as you go over the bridge on 121, it is four
Lanes.

640
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:45,860
one lane turns left. You go over the bridge and then you're in a left turn lane, which is not marked until you
Pass the traffic signal.

641
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,540
the right lane goes right and one lane goes forward. You get into coppell, and then there's a nice sign that says cyclists may use full lane.

642
01:25:02,060 --> 01:25:02,060
and what I'm asking is if we could possibly consider, putting up some better signage for
The turn lanes and also

643
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:11,480
including a cyclists may use full lane on the bass pro bridge eastbound into coppell.

644
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,250
and anyway, thank you for your time. And I said I'd keep it brief.

645
01:25:25,550 --> 01:25:27,140
thank you, thank you, thank you. Next. Clarence mueller, 3612 lake ridge drive in grapevine.

646
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,270
good evening, mayor and council members. My name is clarence mueller, 3612 lake ridge drive.

647
01:25:45,300 --> 01:25:46,650
I'll keep it short, I promise. Three things I won't talk about tonight sidewalks, short term rentals or wolves.

648
01:25:51,330 --> 01:25:51,330
[laughter] but, I do want to talk a little bit about fairway drive and the dam road.

649
01:25:58,020 --> 01:26:01,290
and I believe it's such a key asset for grapevine. And it offers stunning views of our lake as well as key connectivity to some other key
Assets, primarily the golf course and rock ledge

650
01:26:10,530 --> 01:26:10,530
park, of which I believe rock ledge park has become reasonably underutilized by grapevine
Now as it's become a bit of an island out there.

651
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:22,470
and I think we have an option to reclaim that. Currently, that road is now primarily used by cut through traffic for the high rise, high
Density housing that's being placed by flower mound right on our

652
01:26:31,860 --> 01:26:31,860
border, making the dam road as well as parts of the links trail as we cross fairway drive
Really unsafe for use by bicycles,

653
01:26:41,550 --> 01:26:41,550
pedestrians, and even car traffic has gotten a bit hairy over there as it's gotten busier
With another tower under construction and more planned in flower mound, we're going to see

654
01:26:51,090 --> 01:26:51,090
continual increases in traffic, and I believe now's the time that we reclaim this asset
And utilize some of the unprecedented funding

655
01:27:00,870 --> 01:27:00,870
available by both us department of transportation as well as txdot for active
Transportation projects and alternatives.

656
01:27:08,250 --> 01:27:11,700
that money's there. It's at a very unusual split now. Instead of the normal 50/50, it's 80/20, so we can get a hold of that.

657
01:27:16,500 --> 01:27:16,500
and so what I'd like to propose is that the city consider workshopping some creative
Solutions that would allow us to prioritize our citizens

658
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:26,280
over pass through traffic from flower mound, using that asset to get to the highway
Versus going the other way.

659
01:27:33,330 --> 01:27:33,330
and I'd love to see us find a way to reclaim this incredible asset for grapevine.

660
01:27:37,890 --> 01:27:37,890
thank you. Have a good night.

661
01:27:42,410 --> 01:27:44,960
is that it? Yes, sir. All right. All right. That completes our citizen comments.

662
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:47,000
okay. We have some presentations to make.

663
01:27:51,140 --> 01:27:51,140
the first is to present a proclamation declaring january 19th as texas association of
Structural movers day.

664
01:28:00,050 --> 01:28:00,050
structures have been moved within grapevine historic district for more than 100 years,
1976.

665
01:28:06,350 --> 01:28:06,350
moving the tour and log cabin to main involve the city of grapevine and the structural
Moving process.

666
01:28:12,770 --> 01:28:12,770
since that time, more than 40 structures have been lifted and moved in the grapevine
Historic township in support of historic preservation for the involvement of the city of

667
01:28:22,670 --> 01:28:22,670
grapevine staff and members of the texas association of structural movers.

668
01:28:26,930 --> 01:28:26,930
preserving these historic structures by moving them ensures that the history and the
Heritage of the grapevine prairie will remain as an architectural testimony for

669
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,420
future generations. Keeping historic buildings protects the planet by keeping important sound buildings in
Use, and not wasting landfills as demolition debris.

670
01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:47,750
moving these structures involves spending $464,300 with members of the texas association
Of structural movers.

671
01:28:56,480 --> 01:28:56,480
these relocation structures in the grapevine historic township are valued today at
$12,385,324.

672
01:29:06,710 --> 01:29:06,710
the work could not be accomplished without the involvement of our partners, members of
The texas association of structural movers.

673
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:14,240
it is anticipated that this partnership and activity will continue throughout the year
And for years to come.

674
01:29:20,630 --> 01:29:20,630
I therefore declare january the 19th, as texas association of structural movers day in
Grapevine, in honor of the long standing

675
01:29:30,230 --> 01:29:30,230
relationship between the city and the members of the association who's having their 2024
Conference at the grapevine on january the

676
01:29:40,110 --> 01:29:42,520
18th through the 21st. Do we have anyone here to accept that

677
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,350
. All right. Thank you all very much. A few words. All right. Appreciate it. Could you gentlemen introduce yourself, please?

678
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,600
I just come up to the mic a minute. [inaudible] first of all, thank you for this.

679
01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:16,440
this is. We're proud to help the city move all those buildings.

680
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:24,120
this is my brother, tim hitchcock. I'm mark hitchcock. This is gary snow with snow house moving.

681
01:30:28,500 --> 01:30:28,500
our granddad went in business in 1944 and has moved a ton of buildings here in grapevine
Way before grapevine even had a historic

682
01:30:37,410 --> 01:30:37,410
society. And, we're we're proud to to keep it up.

683
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,670
and I know the snow family feels the same way. Oh, yes. We've been working with grapevine for many years and continue to work with them.

684
01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:54,270
all right. Thank you all for y'all. Do a great job. Thank you very much. Thank you for your business [applause]. I'm proud of us. Thank you very much.

685
01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:00,180
it's always fun to watch you all provide a lot of entertainment when you move those big
Buildings.

686
01:31:14,570 --> 01:31:14,570
movers over the last 20 years, and personally worked with over moving 20 buildings with,
With these guys.

687
01:31:21,770 --> 01:31:23,630
wow. So it's pretty amazing. But I thank the council as well, and mayor and city manager and everyone here for
Allowing that great achievement to be accomplished

688
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:35,990
glad we still have people in the business that can move houses and we can save them.

689
01:31:40,310 --> 01:31:40,310
thank you all very much. I'll say one more thing, but as a kid, we grew up in coppell, and
My granddad used to tell me that he moved that old snow cone stand one time, and

690
01:31:50,210 --> 01:31:52,910
I sure would like to know where he moved it from, you know. But thank you.

691
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,510
thank you guys. We appreciate it. Thank you much. Next we have a report from our emergency management coordinator, about
Our

692
01:32:06,650 --> 01:32:06,650
mass notification emergency system, tj [inaudible].

693
01:32:17,590 --> 01:32:20,650
good evening everyone. Mayor council. City management.

694
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:22,000
it's not very often that the emergency manager gets to speak to a group like yours in
Non-emergency situations, so I certainly appreciate your time.

695
01:32:28,570 --> 01:32:28,570
I'm going to talk to you briefly tonight about some, changes that are going to occur with
Our mass notification system that I really believe are going to improve, the ability to

696
01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:37,030
communicate with our citizens as well as save the taxpayers, a considerable amount of
Money.

697
01:32:43,820 --> 01:32:44,990
just give some background. Code red by onsolve is currently our mass notification system.

698
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:49,100
we intend to switch from code red to civic ready.

699
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:53,840
we already have a relationship with civic ready under the the parent company civic plus,
Who, is in or who is our currently our,

700
01:33:04,340 --> 01:33:08,120
website host and administrator. The important part about that information is that the, the mass notification system and
The website interface will work together

701
01:33:17,750 --> 01:33:17,750
and we'll be able to, basically, tie those things together and improve the overall mass
Notification system in the city.

702
01:33:28,820 --> 01:33:28,820
the first bullet here is basically civic plus's, marketing statement.

703
01:33:33,290 --> 01:33:33,290
they, they basically got into the business of government website hosting, and the mass
Notification piece was a natural evolution of their their product line.

704
01:33:43,010 --> 01:33:43,010
what is important for us to know is that civic ready managed the the national test
Conducted by fema of the integrated public warning and alert

705
01:33:52,550 --> 01:33:52,550
system. So the expectation is that if they can handle something as complex and as large
As that, then they could probably handle grapevine city pretty pretty

706
01:34:01,910 --> 01:34:01,910
easily. Several benefits with with making this move and I'll highlight just a few.

707
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:11,520
first and foremost, civic ready advertises 12,000 voice calls, 60,000 text messages and
50,000

708
01:34:21,780 --> 01:34:23,460
emails per minute. Obviously, that that number and that advertisement is contingent upon our local
Infrastructure, being up and running cell towers not being

709
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:33,360
congested, etc., which would obviously degrade some of that.

710
01:34:37,830 --> 01:34:37,830
but, on any given day they can promise, a, a rate of messaging that far exceeds what our
Current

711
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:48,720
provider provides. As a matter of fact, when we became customers, clients of code red, they did an
Assessment of grapevine communications capability.

712
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:56,640
and because of that, they tailored the the amount of messages that can go out at any one
Time.

713
01:35:03,930 --> 01:35:07,650
and that hasn't been revisited, since 2015. And when you consider the, the astronomical, increases in communication, abilities, it's,
It's severely limiting our

714
01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:19,110
ability to create messages. In fact, when I, when I create messages for fireworks or other other events, sometimes it
Takes up to six minutes for me to get it from, from the actual launch

715
01:35:29,070 --> 01:35:29,070
time, which doesn't give me a whole lot of faith that I can effectively communicate with
Our citizens in time sensitive messages.

716
01:35:36,180 --> 01:35:38,940
so this is definitely a plus. When you switch over, we switch over to this new system.

717
01:35:42,450 --> 01:35:45,510
will it require re signing up? I mean, what will there be any onus of responsibility on citizens to input number?

718
01:35:52,050 --> 01:35:55,950
how do we get that? I mean, is it going to be a smooth transition or how is that going to
Work. Yes, we actually have a meeting with civic ready tomorrow to strategize the the
Transition process.

719
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:02,640
but to answer your question, yes, there will be a need for citizens to, to sign up.

720
01:36:08,580 --> 01:36:08,580
now, we will get a lot of, of quote unquote free data from civic ready.

721
01:36:13,980 --> 01:36:13,980
same thing that code red did for us is they took they bought a bunch of white page data
And they will upload that for us, but individual citizens will likely have to, sign up on

722
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:23,880
their own. And there's going to be a full civic or community engagement piece to our
Transition plan that will inform our citizens of of the transition

723
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,150
and what they need to do to get signed up. It's a really good opportunity to really start fresh and, and reengage, the community
With regard to this.

724
01:36:44,730 --> 01:36:44,730
on that note, can I just ask one more question in this new company?

725
01:36:49,470 --> 01:36:49,470
are there I mean, you said there's a saving cost savings, which is great, but are there
Any new enhancements or are we getting any new benefits from the switch over to a new

726
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,480
company versus the company we were with? We are, as a matter of fact, some of these are pretty profound.

727
01:37:04,260 --> 01:37:04,260
for example, the the extensive language options right now, code red gives us english,
When when residents sign up for the new

728
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:13,800
system, they have the opportunity to sign up for 60 written languages and 25 voice
Languages.

729
01:37:19,890 --> 01:37:19,890
so typically when we send a message out, we send a text message, an email and a phone
Call, typically, if if all they want is text messages and in an

730
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:29,760
email, they can get those messages in their native tongue as long as they're one of the
60 languages that they offer.

731
01:37:36,180 --> 01:37:36,180
if they want a voicemail as their notification option, then they have 25.

732
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:40,800
but I'm still very confident that we're going to hit the overwhelming majority of
Languages that are spoken within grapevine.

733
01:37:47,430 --> 01:37:50,790
wow. That's a big improvement. It is a big improvement. Another improvement is that, we'll have the ability to conduct polls.

734
01:37:55,770 --> 01:37:55,770
some of you may be aware that we have a legislative requirement during certain
Emergencies to reach out to folks that have registered on our state of texas emergency

735
01:38:03,570 --> 01:38:04,680
assistance registry. For example, on tuesday, I called all of our assisted living facilities just to make sure
Everything was good.

736
01:38:12,660 --> 01:38:12,660
the intention of this requirement is to send an initial poll out to everybody that
Registers, and then they can they can say yes or no, whether they need

737
01:38:22,350 --> 01:38:22,350
assistance, and we can follow up based on their responses.

738
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:30,570
this will give us the ability to do that where we don't have it currently. Another thing is one local phone call or phone number.

739
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:34,560
right now, what we have available to us is an emergency number and a non-emergency
Number.

740
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,480
and those are 866 numbers. And with everybody getting inundated with spam calls, the fear is that a lot of our folks
That get these messages are disregarding them because they think they're spam.

741
01:38:51,660 --> 01:38:51,660
so having one phone number that a resident, when they sign up can save as a contact, they
Will know it's a message from from grapevine, and they'll they're more likely to pay

742
01:39:00,660 --> 01:39:04,420
attention to it. Integrations with social media and other. Other notification platforms, we can configure the system to put a message out on the
City's facebook

743
01:39:13,060 --> 01:39:13,060
pages, x, and I believe instagram, but I'm not I'm not positive, but there's a lot of
Integration there to include the ability to put

744
01:39:22,780 --> 01:39:22,780
pop ups or banners on the website, on our city's website, the overall goal for for
Emergency communication, just for the grapevine website to be the

745
01:39:32,350 --> 01:39:32,350
trusted source of information for our folks so they can go to the city's website and find
Out the details for the for the incident.

746
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,780
and it happens to me all the time. I might go to the city's website for a business related reason, but I also always end up
Finding out something else.

747
01:39:50,770 --> 01:39:50,770
so people will come to the website to find out about an emergency or a notice, and then
They'll end up getting more information related to the city as intended.

748
01:40:01,870 --> 01:40:01,870
obviously, finances are important part of our fiduciary responsibility to to save
Taxpayer money.

749
01:40:10,660 --> 01:40:14,260
we are looking at the potential to save a considerable amount of money. First and foremost, no permanent charges.

750
01:40:18,340 --> 01:40:18,340
right now, our current provider for non-emergency communications gives us a limit of of,
Of non-emergency charges.

751
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:25,000
we can we can make emergency phone calls all as long as we want, but non-emergency things
Like fireworks, stuff like that.

752
01:40:31,390 --> 01:40:34,420
we have a limit before we have to start paying per minute. Civic ready does not charge, which gives us a lot of freedom where we can weigh the need
To inform our folks versus over informing them.

753
01:40:43,570 --> 01:40:43,570
we can weigh those without having to also have the other variable of, can we afford to
Use these minutes on this?

754
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:49,600
the cost savings year one, $13,000 over what we were invoiced for fy 22 or fy 24 for this
Year.

755
01:40:58,330 --> 01:40:58,330
civic ready is going to give us the first year at a $13,000 savings.

756
01:41:03,100 --> 01:41:03,100
year two would end up being $7,000 both of those years combined, basically equal to a
Savings of almost one year of our current vendor.

757
01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:14,530
what they charge us per year. It's the industry standard to increase prices every five years.

758
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,660
we'll budget for that accordingly. But even so, we will they will remain less expensive than our current vendor.

759
01:41:24,940 --> 01:41:24,940
and of course, since since civic or civic plus is our current vendor for website hosting,
There is a proposal in the works to do some mobile application.

760
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:35,080
this price is contingent upon bundling all those things together and being a client on
Multiple,

761
01:41:44,860 --> 01:41:44,860
avenues. And with that, I would, make myself available for any, any questions?

762
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:54,230
you might have questions. Good stuff. All looks good.

763
01:41:56,010 --> 01:41:59,690
thank you. Thank you so much. Madam chairman, you have the recommendations of the planning zoning commission.

764
01:42:07,050 --> 01:42:10,530
item 38. We planning and zoning commission recommend approval of am 23-02 electric vehicle
Charging stations 7-0.

765
01:42:21,180 --> 01:42:23,310
consideration is in order. I'll move for approval.

766
01:42:26,660 --> 01:42:30,110
[inaudible] did we get a second? Yes. Leon. Yes. Can I can may I ask a question?

767
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,220
may I ask a question, please? Was there any discussion about the suggestion to separate the types of charging stations
Out, or is it you just approved it with everything lumped

768
01:42:44,180 --> 01:42:44,180
in? We left it as it was because we really didn't have any discussion about it.

769
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:49,520
but the [inaudible] had in the beginning had said keep it all together so.

770
01:42:57,170 --> 01:42:57,170
I do, I mean, I'm fine with approving it, but I do think we should do a little bit of
Investigation relative to the car dealerships

771
01:43:07,010 --> 01:43:07,010
or the I don't know the words to call it, but I think it's worthwhile to at least
Investigate that because I think he made a good point.

772
01:43:14,300 --> 01:43:14,300
unfortunately, these things are showing up everywhere and they're unattractive, and
They're taking parking spaces that are allocated for regular businesses.

773
01:43:22,850 --> 01:43:24,200
so I have no problem approving it. But I do think that doing a little further research on that, particularly since they're
At a disadvantage relative to airport car dealerships.

774
01:43:32,810 --> 01:43:35,880
however, if it if it. If we're comfortable that it should go through the proper the proper conditional use and
All that.

775
01:43:40,260 --> 01:43:41,340
I'm fine with that. I'm just saying I think we ought to at least look at it.

776
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:45,240
yeah, I agree, because it sounds like there's a considerable difference in the types of
Facilities that are available.

777
01:44:00,390 --> 01:44:03,390
so I think it does warrant some further discussion. I'm more like in the different the levels that he was referring to, you know?

778
01:44:07,050 --> 01:44:08,540
yeah, I just don't understand it. Drawing a much higher voltage than others, but for now, I'm fine with us going ahead and
Approving that.

779
01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:16,680
they have to go through the process. We have a motion and a second.

780
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:19,710
yes, sir. No. I mean, while there's there's two issues that were brought up there, I just want to
Make sure, matthew, that that we're clear about that regardless of the

781
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,390
zoning category that a car dealership is in, that's in our city. They'll have to go through a conditional use process to expand ev charging stations.

782
01:44:37,770 --> 01:44:40,280
is that correct? Under this ordinance. They will either not be permitted or they will be permitted only subject to a conditional
Use permit.

783
01:44:45,770 --> 01:44:45,770
so I think that's we have to make that clear.

784
01:44:56,340 --> 01:44:57,540
so there's that. The the other question, though, about the different levels of charging stations, and, you
Know, some are lower intensity, some are higher intensity.

785
01:45:07,530 --> 01:45:07,530
obviously, we'll go through and do the research with the fire department and get back to
You all on that.

786
01:45:13,170 --> 01:45:17,010
but our recommendation is that you approve the ordinance. Of course. All right. We do have a motion. And a second, any further discussion?

787
01:45:21,330 --> 01:45:23,910
not all in favor. All opposed. Motion carries.

788
01:45:25,530 --> 01:45:27,810
item 39. The planning and zoning commission recommended approval with a vote of 7-0 of am 23-08
Short term rentals.

789
01:45:35,130 --> 01:45:38,310
I'll move for approval. Second. All in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.

790
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:42,780
item 40. The planning and zoning commission recommended approval of cu 23-36 old hickory at the
Gaylord texan.

791
01:45:52,610 --> 01:45:53,950
consideration is in order. I'll move for approval. Second, any discussion?

792
01:45:57,290 --> 01:45:59,150
if not all in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.

793
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,010
item 41. The planning and zoning commission recommended approval with 7-0 vote of cu 23-37 great
Wolf lodge.

794
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:16,310
move for approval. Second. Any discussion? If not all in favor?

795
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:20,360
all opposed. Motion carries. Item 42.

796
01:46:22,790 --> 01:46:22,790
planning zoning commission recommended approval with a vote of 7-0 of hl 23-03 22 blevins
Street

797
01:46:33,980 --> 01:46:37,510
for approval second. Any discussion. If not all in favor?

798
01:46:38,830 --> 01:46:42,460
all opposed. Motion carries. Item 43. The planning and zoning commission recommend approval with a vote of 7-0 of tdo 23-03
Grapevine brownstones phase two.

799
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:54,940
I'll move for approval. I have a question, please. Was there any discussion about the proposal to leave the zoning as light industrial?

800
01:47:01,150 --> 01:47:02,710
did you all discuss that at all? No, because we didn't think we had a a vehicle to do that

801
01:47:11,860 --> 01:47:15,130
tonight. Okay. I mean, there was no discussion about it.

802
01:47:17,020 --> 01:47:19,830
okay. All right. We have a motion. Did we get a second?

803
01:47:21,410 --> 01:47:25,310
yes, sir. All right. Any further discussion? If not all in favor? All opposed?

804
01:47:29,340 --> 01:47:32,690
motion carries on 43. 44. The planning and zoning commission recommend approval with a vote 7-0 of the final
Plat of lot two, block one, hasten addition.

805
01:47:42,060 --> 01:47:42,060
I move that the city council approve the statement of findings in the final plat of lot
Two, block one, hasten addition.

806
01:47:47,980 --> 01:47:50,790
second. All in favor? All opposed.

807
01:47:52,260 --> 01:47:55,110
all abstained. Motion carries. That completes the recommendations.

808
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,730
planning zoning commission. Thank you very much. We will return to item 12 city council to conduct a public hearing relative to the
Adoption of the youth

809
01:48:09,550 --> 01:48:12,580
program standard of care. That public hearing is open.

810
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:14,080
chris smith as a presentation on 12 and 13.

811
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:19,400
honorable mayor and members of the city council tonight.

812
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:24,520
you have before you the parks and recreation department's annual request to consider
Amending the code of ordinances.

813
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:31,720
chapter 16 parks and recreation, section 16-19, by adopting the youth standards of care.

814
01:48:38,590 --> 01:48:38,590
these standards must be reviewed annually and brought to the city council for approval f
Ollowing a public hearing to pass an ordinance regarding regarding section 42.0

815
01:48:48,490 --> 01:48:48,490
41b 14 of the texas human resources code.

816
01:48:53,290 --> 01:48:53,290
our standards relate specifically to day camps offered for ages 5 to 13 at various
Facilities that the parks and recreation department manages,

817
01:49:03,250 --> 01:49:03,250
and includes other parks and recreation partners such as the library, vast, and golf.

818
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:09,960
patrons receive a copy of the approved standards upon registration for any of the day
Camps we provide parks and recreation, and all partners meet or exceed all of

819
01:49:19,900 --> 01:49:19,900
the requirements as specified in the youth program standards of care.

820
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:24,310
the staff training programs hosted for camp counselors provide the needed information to
Assist us in meeting all of the criteria and all of the standards.

821
01:49:33,820 --> 01:49:33,820
there were no major changes made to the document that was approved by city council in
January of 2023.

822
01:49:42,220 --> 01:49:42,220
this will be the ninth consecutive year of this to be brought to city council for your
Consideration and approval.

823
01:49:49,510 --> 01:49:49,510
if approved, a copy of the updated standards will be submitted and properly filed, and
I'm happy to answer any questions you may

824
01:49:56,890 --> 01:49:56,890
have. [inaudible] no questions.

825
01:50:05,820 --> 01:50:07,580
all right. Thank you chris. Thank you. Do we have anyone wishing to speak?

826
01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:11,480
no, sir. Any correspondence? No, sir. Motion to close the public hearing is in order.

827
01:50:15,700 --> 01:50:17,300
so moved. Move to close. Second. All in favor?

828
01:50:19,870 --> 01:50:22,210
all opposed. Public hearing is closed. Consideration of ordinance number 2024-01 amending the code of ordinances, chapter 16
Parks and recreation section 16 through

829
01:50:31,870 --> 01:50:31,870
19 adopting the youth program standards of care is in order.

830
01:50:36,670 --> 01:50:40,030
I will move for approval. Second discussion. If not all in favor?

831
01:50:41,230 --> 01:50:41,230
aye. Motion carries.

832
01:50:46,230 --> 01:50:46,230
14, 15, and 16 are companions.

833
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:51,270
matt ferrin is going to make a presentation on all three items at the same time.

834
01:50:58,170 --> 01:51:01,380
then we'll take them up individually. Yes. Good evening, your honor.

835
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:04,410
and members of the city council. Matt ferrin, assistant finance director, here to present and seeking consideration for
Items 14, 15 and 16, which are all related

836
01:51:13,950 --> 01:51:13,950
and a part of a much broader strategy to utilize funds from our tif zones, to fully fund
Gcisd's sro

837
01:51:23,850 --> 01:51:23,850
program. We have been engaged for a number of weeks with an economic development firm,
Pettit economic development item 14 will be a professional

838
01:51:33,660 --> 01:51:36,600
services agreement that continues that relationship to complete this project.

839
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:38,790
in working with that firm, we've been made aware of different elements of chapter 311 of
The state tax code that does allow the payment

840
01:51:48,660 --> 01:51:48,660
of operating expenses at tif project facilities.

841
01:51:53,250 --> 01:51:53,250
currently in our two tifs we in each of them, we have gcisd facilities that have been
Funded through tif funds.

842
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:01,560
tif one the grapevine mills tif then later expanded to include the 185 funds from that
Tif were utilized to fund mustang panther stadium as a joint use

843
01:52:11,340 --> 01:52:14,640
facility between us and the school district. Tif two the gaylord tif includes grapevine middle school.

844
01:52:18,270 --> 01:52:18,270
the funds from that tif are used to pay the debt service for that facility, and we
Continue to do that.

845
01:52:24,690 --> 01:52:24,690
so in this proposal that we're presenting, we would then utilize the tif funds to pay
Operating expenses at those

846
01:52:33,540 --> 01:52:33,540
facilities, therefore freeing up dollars in the gcisd's budget to be repurposed for sros
For schools throughout the district.

847
01:52:43,860 --> 01:52:43,860
this is a strategy that uses utilizes gcisd money.

848
01:52:48,510 --> 01:52:48,510
the money in the tif currently is money contributed from their property tax rate that has
To be used for school district expenses and working

849
01:52:58,470 --> 01:52:58,470
with the executive team for gcisd this is what they would like to use those funds for.

850
01:53:04,890 --> 01:53:06,510
current financial projections. We think we could fund sros to 2031.

851
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:11,040
and with conservative financial projections.

852
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:15,560
kind of taking a step back if you look on the left hand side, we've got a number of of
Elements that we will be bringing to you to complete this process.

853
01:53:23,310 --> 01:53:23,310
tonight is just the beginning item 15 and 16 are going to reorient the composition of the
Tif boards right now, as they were written in the mid 90s the tif boards

854
01:53:33,060 --> 01:53:34,920
include all taxing entities. So the city of grapevine, gcisd, tarrant county, tarrant county college, tarrant county
Hospital district all in are written into the ordinance on

855
01:53:44,610 --> 01:53:46,020
being on the boards. Well, the only participants in tif one right now are the city and the only participants
In tif two are the city and gcisd.

856
01:53:52,980 --> 01:53:52,980
so item 15 will both 15 and 16 will reorient and say that it's the city of grapevine and
Any participating taxing entities

857
01:54:02,850 --> 01:54:04,770
would be on those tif boards. Tif one would just be us, tif two would be us and gcisd.

858
01:54:08,820 --> 01:54:11,370
I have a couple questions for you. Yeah. On the tif one gcisd is no longer a participant in that tif, correct?

859
01:54:17,130 --> 01:54:20,670
correct. They are not contributing any new tax increment to that tif. Okay. And so these because I know we gave them some of the funds when they got out of the
Tif.

860
01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:29,430
so they're still funds remaining there. These will be funds that have been sitting there for a period of time that we'll be
Using.

861
01:54:34,050 --> 01:54:37,320
they won't be additional funds since they're not participating in the tif. Correct? Correct. That would be correct for tif one.

862
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,870
yes. That these are funds that have been sitting too because they're still in two. And then the only other question, and I know I cut you off before you had a chance to
Finish, but I understand the desire to add more members so that you have representation of

863
01:54:52,710 --> 01:54:54,150
these different bodies. What I'm confused with is both boards say up to 15, and I don't know why it says up to 15
Members of the board when all the increment, all the

864
01:55:03,930 --> 01:55:06,250
added together only compose 9. So that's language from the tax code that mirrors what it is allowable.

865
01:55:11,070 --> 01:55:11,070
we know that it's only going to be 4 council members plus the mayor, and then one
Additional for every entity that's participating.

866
01:55:17,910 --> 01:55:19,950
are you saying we can't change that? We we can.

867
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:21,960
it's just a thought. I mean, the fact that it allows 15 is a big board.

868
01:55:26,610 --> 01:55:29,160
that's what mirrors the state statute. But we can consider changing that.

869
01:55:31,110 --> 01:55:31,110
yes. So if my understanding this, this chapter 311 of the tax code, this change, is this
The is this the state's way of trying

870
01:55:40,890 --> 01:55:44,190
to help fund the sros? Because. No. So. We will not be paying directly for sros with the tif funds.

871
01:55:48,190 --> 01:55:48,190
the funds from the tif will be paying operating expenses at those facilities.

872
01:55:52,660 --> 01:55:52,660
so maintenance, upkeep, and the funds that were budgeted for those facilities could then
Be repurposed by gcisd to fund sro separately.

873
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:05,200
so that's going to cover other operating costs, not correct. The funds from the tif

874
01:56:08,010 --> 01:56:08,010
it is. It is a creative solution to to being to have gcisd be fully funding sros.

875
01:56:13,180 --> 01:56:16,360
yes. Okay. So and I think that's a great idea. I'm just a little bit wasn't really prepared.

876
01:56:20,170 --> 01:56:20,170
I mean that we were going to be kind of making these kind of changes and adding this many
People to the board.

877
01:56:26,110 --> 01:56:26,110
I'm a little bit confused why people are being added to the board that aren't officially
Paying to the tif.

878
01:56:33,550 --> 01:56:34,810
correct. We are correcting that. So the current the current structure says that all the entities are members, and we are
Removing that and saying it's only the city and those that are participating.

879
01:56:44,010 --> 01:56:45,880
okay, that's what the new structure will be. So who is participating other than the city and the school district?

880
01:56:49,860 --> 01:56:51,390
no, we're talking about tif two? For so for tif one, it is just the city for tif two it is the city and just gcisd.

881
01:56:56,410 --> 01:56:59,320
there are no other participants in our in our tifs. And how many members from gcisd?

882
01:57:01,170 --> 01:57:02,890
it will be just a single member. Yes. Okay, so I know how much you I mean, you're getting a lot of questions.

883
01:57:06,460 --> 01:57:09,430
I have some questions, but are you almost done? And then we'll ask questions or. Yeah, just wanted to do a quick overview of what we will be bringing to you in on coming
Meetings.

884
01:57:14,740 --> 01:57:14,740
so, as item 14 is reviewed and considered, if approved, we would continue the work with
David pettit and his team to amend the project

885
01:57:24,430 --> 01:57:25,450
finance plan. We would bring to you the selection from gcisd on on february 6th to confirm their
Appointment to the tif two board.

886
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:33,160
then we would be creating a reimbursement agreement with the school district.

887
01:57:37,750 --> 01:57:37,750
so the tif boards would then be going into an agreement with the school district to
Outline all the elements of the cost, reimbursement, what facilities they include,

888
01:57:47,380 --> 01:57:49,120
and how they would be repaid. We'd be bringing that to you in march in the first meeting, and then from there, on an
Annual basis until at least 2031, we would have a process to reimburse those costs to the

889
01:57:58,990 --> 01:58:02,440
school district, and they would be funding sros back to the city. Okay, so there's two questions I have going back on what darlene said in reference to the
Board members.

890
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:10,360
so the board members that currently sit, liaisons, for example, on the park and rec board
And grapevine has to be one of the trustees at

891
01:58:20,290 --> 01:58:23,770
grapevine-colleyville that is a resident of grapevine. The tif board has a resident of colleyville on that board.

892
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,100
is that something that we can tell the school district? We need to have a representative from the grapevine city, or who determines that?

893
01:58:36,550 --> 01:58:36,550
the tax the state. Chapter 311 requires that the member of the tif board be a resident of
The county or an adjacent county.

894
01:58:44,710 --> 01:58:47,620
so that's the requirement. So it's tarrant county, so correct? Yes. And so, that that's what

895
01:58:50,260 --> 01:58:50,260
is there any flexibility in that, though, to leon's point, do we have flexibility or are
We having to follow.

896
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:59,620
can I just cut to that says I just answer that question tonight. This afternoon the school board met and and appointed mary humphrey to be the the gcisd
Representative on tif number two.

897
01:59:09,610 --> 01:59:09,610
so you're going to have a

898
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:20,710
right. But and I don't mean to but that's old stuff. And really what you have on tif one it is it's old language.

899
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:27,190
going back to when the tifs were originally created. Basically on tif one, you have five members of that tif board that are city council
Members.

900
01:59:32,770 --> 01:59:32,770
on tif number two, you will have five members of the city council that will be the board
For tif number two plus the one gcisd representative who they named

901
01:59:42,340 --> 01:59:45,610
today, who would be mary humphrey. Again, just to sort of amplify what matt has said, the whole strategy here is that there
Is about a million and a half left in tif number one that

902
01:59:55,450 --> 01:59:58,150
is solely the school district's funds. Those funds will be used for sro.

903
02:00:00,550 --> 02:00:00,550
we have an excess reserve amount, that is also, gcisd funds in tif number two.

904
02:00:09,460 --> 02:00:09,460
and so the idea is that they will pay operating expenses on eligible school facilities,
And that will free up funds in their budget

905
02:00:19,270 --> 02:00:19,270
that subsequent in subsequent years through 2031 and honestly, maybe beyond that, we'll
Have the ability for them to fully pay

906
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:28,360
100% for the sro program through existing tax increment finance funds.

907
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:34,840
okay, so I understand that, but the question is, is that tif money, instead of grapevine
It's going to colleyville school district.

908
02:00:43,300 --> 02:00:43,300
is that money going to stay in grapevine because it's grapevine, colleyville and euless
As well.

909
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:47,840
so that grapevine, the answer unequivocally is yes because the

910
02:00:55,460 --> 02:00:58,910
yes. Well, the school district no. The question is, is the money in grapevine staying in grapevine is are we paying for
Euless police officer or colleyville police officer?

911
02:01:05,210 --> 02:01:05,210
again, I if you don't mind, let me just reserve an answer on that until we get further in
The process.

912
02:01:11,690 --> 02:01:11,690
well, I think we have to remember that grapevine-colleyville independent school district
Participated in this tif as a whole.

913
02:01:17,900 --> 02:01:19,120
I understand your point. That is a valid one, but the entire district taxes that would have gone to the district
Were allocated for the tif.

914
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:26,360
so I

915
02:01:30,580 --> 02:01:31,700
well and that's what I'm asking. But when you say [inaudible] you're saying you're saying the police officers, right?

916
02:01:37,580 --> 02:01:37,580
or the sros [inaudible] all I'm asking is, is the money coming from the tif out of
Grapevine.

917
02:01:41,810 --> 02:01:45,740
is it paying for grapevine officers, or is colleyville paying for colleyville? [inaudible] let me answer the question, if you would I again, what we're paying for are
Operating expenses at facilities that are in grapevine g.

918
02:01:55,490 --> 02:01:58,790
the school district is paying for sros. So it's just going into the general fund and then use that however how they want it.

919
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:05,510
absolutely. Which is different than what is being presented. [inaudible] oh no, no, oh no.

920
02:02:08,010 --> 02:02:08,010
I think it's critical that you all understand that there are eligible expenses for a tax
Increment finance district.

921
02:02:14,310 --> 02:02:18,300
they have to do with facilities that are located in grapevine. The. So going forward, the tif funds that are fully gcisds, tif funds will pay a like
Amount of those operating expenses at the

922
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:31,230
stadium and at grapevine middle school. And then the freed up funds in gcisd's budget will be what will pay for the sros through
The

923
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,150
2031 time period. It sounds like the city has found a way to help the school district funding these sros,
Which the city now is paying for.

924
02:02:50,340 --> 02:02:50,340
question, I guess is and I guess what I'm hearing is, do we really care or is it our
Issue?

925
02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:58,110
but it is because we're paying tax to the school district. But the question is, is if you've got you're so we're paying for it now.

926
02:03:09,090 --> 02:03:09,090
so now you're saying okay, we have this extra money in the tif which originally was set
Up for infrastructure.

927
02:03:14,700 --> 02:03:16,620
right. And so then it changed a little bit. So the tifs are still going to be supporting the infrastructure of the school district.

928
02:03:20,580 --> 02:03:20,580
but you're moving some over to sros, but it's going into the general fund for them to
Use if they want.

929
02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:24,780
but my question is, is that that tif was really for infrastructure.

930
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:29,400
it went for grapevine middle school, it went for the stadium, it went for other things
Besides that, besides the stadium as well, which was all infrastructure.

931
02:03:37,590 --> 02:03:37,590
so now it's being kind of helped to support this sro mandate that came from the state
That the school district is trying to figure out how to fund.

932
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:47,940
is this a band aid? Or you said till 3033 and or 2033 is I mean, are they working to try to figure this out?

933
02:03:54,810 --> 02:03:54,810
because ultimately it would be ideal to use those funds for what they originally were
For.

934
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:00,000
it's an alternative where the school is paying for this, for the resource offices out of
Money, out of the tif, rather

935
02:04:09,870 --> 02:04:13,440
than we paying it out of the general fund. Right? Right. It's their money. So and them using their own operating money, this is a help to them and to us.

936
02:04:19,050 --> 02:04:22,290
the staff's been very creative to come up with that suggestion. Well I think our city's done a great job working with them to come up with solutions to a
Challenge mandate.

937
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:27,360
but I'm just hoping that, you know, once again, this goes to 2033 and then you're still
Going to have the same problem.

938
02:04:32,910 --> 02:04:32,910
are they working to try to figure this thing out within their own budget, as opposed to
Relying on the support of the city?

939
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:42,150
that's all I'm asking. I understood you have to ask them that question. Yeah. I don't know that.

940
02:04:43,490 --> 02:04:43,490
mr. I was going to say brad snouts but that's not correct.

941
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:50,760
I don't know that our staff knows if they're working on it or not. I've talked to some of the school board members because the hole that they're in has been
Going on.

942
02:04:55,050 --> 02:04:58,500
it's been coming a long time because they didn't have a rainy day fund. They didn't plan for that. So it didn't it hadn't just cropped up this year.

943
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:03,360
it's been coming on a long time. Hopefully they will they will budget funds so that they don't have this kind of a problem
Again.

944
02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:12,090
but I think that question and maybe bruno can talk to dr. Snouts about it and find out for sure if they're if they're managing the money, the ones
That we have there now to do better than a better job than has been done in the past.

945
02:05:21,750 --> 02:05:21,750
but I think this change in the tax code is a good thing, because it helps the schools and
It helps the cities from having that burden.

946
02:05:28,530 --> 02:05:32,100
so that's school's responsibility to manage their money. Yeah. This takes care of the immediate need to relieve our general fund of considerable
Amount of money, and we ought to support it.

947
02:05:42,170 --> 02:05:42,170
all right. We. We have any further questions?

948
02:05:48,810 --> 02:05:52,200
all right. Consideration, then, of a couple of ordinances. Item 14.

949
02:05:54,270 --> 02:05:55,890
consider. I'm sorry. Wait a minute. First, we've got to consider the professional service contract.

950
02:06:03,090 --> 02:06:03,090
the update and amend tax increment financing zone number one, tax increment financing
Number two.

951
02:06:10,860 --> 02:06:10,860
and project financial plans with david petty economic development.

952
02:06:15,350 --> 02:06:19,230
a motion is in order to do that. I'll move for approval. Second. Any discussion?

953
02:06:21,180 --> 02:06:23,760
if not, can I ask a question? Can I ask a question, mayor? Just real quick, matt. I'm sorry.

954
02:06:26,970 --> 02:06:29,820
I don't really understand exactly what they're going to be doing. Could you just explain that?

955
02:06:31,020 --> 02:06:31,020
it's already done. In general terms, what this consultant is actually going to do for us.

956
02:06:36,540 --> 02:06:36,540
so the current structure of the documents don't allow for the operating expenses to be an
Eligible cost.

957
02:06:43,590 --> 02:06:43,590
so they will be rewriting the founding ordinance for both tifs to include the new cost
And eligibility of those project facilities.

958
02:06:52,860 --> 02:06:52,860
and it would be also creating the reimbursement resolutions, working with us and
Coordinating with gcisd to develop that.

959
02:07:03,210 --> 02:07:04,650
it does not exist right now. And making it, preparing it for approval.

960
02:07:08,100 --> 02:07:08,100
all of these elements have to be approved sometimes at three different boards.

961
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:16,440
so gcisd would have to approve that reimbursement resolution. Both tif boards would have to approve that reimbursement agreement and then city council.

962
02:07:21,390 --> 02:07:21,390
so all the prep work behind that to prepare those documents.

963
02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:25,560
and then the ongoing support to track the cost associated with that.

964
02:07:30,690 --> 02:07:30,690
that's fine. And, and the entire funds that we're providing for this is $22,500

965
02:07:36,810 --> 02:07:38,460
yes. Thank you. I'm fine now, mayor. I just needed to understand that we have a motion and a second.

966
02:07:42,030 --> 02:07:43,200
all in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.

967
02:07:46,140 --> 02:07:46,140
consideration of ordinance number 2024-002 to amend the composition and powers of the
Board of directors for the tax increment finance reinvestment zone

968
02:07:55,980 --> 02:07:58,550
number one. I will move for approval.

969
02:08:00,350 --> 02:08:02,090
second. May I ask one question? Quick question, mayor. So these next two ordinances, the we're recommending these changes
Will be what this consultant will take

970
02:08:11,540 --> 02:08:15,210
and rewrite things. Is that correct? Yes. So they will make the new documents match what this ordinance is outlining.

971
02:08:23,530 --> 02:08:23,530
just my opinion

972
02:08:28,540 --> 02:08:32,110
yeah, it is just the language of the of the statute. We we will have five members from grapevine city council, on tif one and five members on
Tiff two with one gcisd member.

973
02:08:41,350 --> 02:08:44,350
can we add that to this document? It's in there. It's in there. Thank you.

974
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:49,450
I think he's got the message. Any other discussion or questions? Not all in favor.

975
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:53,680
all opposed. Motion carries. Consideration of ordinance number 2024-003.

976
02:08:58,930 --> 02:09:02,710
and do we need to confirm mary humphreys as a school if you would. All right as far as that motion needs to include that confirmation.

977
02:09:09,220 --> 02:09:09,220
I move for approval of the ordinance and with the validation that mary humphrey be the
Gcisd representative on this.

978
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:22,700
all right. Second, any questions? Any debate? All in favor?

979
02:09:24,020 --> 02:09:24,020
all opposed. Motion carries.

980
02:09:30,220 --> 02:09:30,220
that brings us to contract for the construction of the 2019 inflow and infiltration
Project with douglas

981
02:09:40,010 --> 02:09:41,670
dailey construction. [inaudible] best for last.

982
02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:45,970
not quite. We still have. This is going to be simple.

983
02:09:48,850 --> 02:09:50,830
thank you honorable mayor and city council members. Item number 17 on your agenda tonight is to authorize a construction contract with
Douglas dailey construction for one of our inflow and infiltration projects.

984
02:09:59,320 --> 02:09:59,320
this project was identified in our sanitary sewer overflow initiative, which is mandated
By the tcq.

985
02:10:06,100 --> 02:10:06,100
the purpose is to replace sanitary sewer lines that allow rain or groundwater to enter
The sewer mains.

986
02:10:11,500 --> 02:10:15,460
this places a significant burden on our lift stations and the treatment plant. You can see examples on your screen of the inflows here.

987
02:10:19,630 --> 02:10:22,540
the next image shows the locations of the proposed project. The first project is replacing the 15 inch sanitary sewer that runs along [inaudible]
Lane, constructed in the early 1970s.

988
02:10:29,350 --> 02:10:29,350
the new alignment will be further up the hill away from the lake, which will help with
Future issues of inflow and allows for better access to the line when the lake is up.

989
02:10:37,570 --> 02:10:37,570
the next project is in the area referred to as the northeast outfall.

990
02:10:41,950 --> 02:10:41,950
this includes the shore crest acres subdivision and some adjacent homes.

991
02:10:46,150 --> 02:10:49,340
these lines also date back to the 1970s. As noted in the memo, the existing sewer lines are 50 years old and vitrified clay pipe
That is not really held up very well in our soils.

992
02:10:56,980 --> 02:10:59,620
we don't use those pipes anymore. While we were disappointed to have only one bidder, staff finds the pricing to be
Acceptable and we recommend we move forward.

993
02:11:06,010 --> 02:11:08,890
with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have. Any questions?

994
02:11:11,230 --> 02:11:14,110
you really want questions or you just want to go home? Home. I'll move for approval of the ordinance.

995
02:11:19,450 --> 02:11:21,250
second. All in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.

996
02:11:24,220 --> 02:11:24,220
so the consent agenda item 18 through 37 are not scheduled for any council debate.

997
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:30,160
any guests can request any item be removed for further debate at this time.

998
02:11:35,620 --> 02:11:35,620
we have any request?

999
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:39,880
then item 18 through 37 [inaudible] motion is in order.

1000
02:11:45,460 --> 02:11:45,460
move for the approval of consent agenda items 18 through 37.

1001
02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:53,890
second. Any discussion, if not all in favor? All opposed? Motion carries.

1002
02:11:56,140 --> 02:11:58,150
the consent is approved. I believe that completes the agenda.

1003
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:04,030
so a motion to adjourn is in order. Move to adjourn.

1004
02:12:05,740 --> 02:12:08,540
second. All opposed? Motion carries.

1005
02:12:09,770 --> 02:12:09,770
council stands adjourned.