We'll call the 7:00 meeting to order. City council recess to the city council conference room to conduct a closed session in Regards to real property relative to the deliberation of the purchase,
exchange, lease, sale or value of real property under section 551.072 of the texas Government code, and be to conference with the city manager and
staff to discuss deliberate commercial and financial information received from business Prospects.
the city seeks to have, locate, stay or expand in the city and to deliberate the offer of A financial or other incentive with businesses that we're conducting economic
development negotiations under section 551.087 of the texas government code.
we'll reconvene here at 7:30 and take any necessary action.
after that, we will call to order our 7:30 meeting.
session that began at 7:00. Mr. Rumbelow any action of the council as a result of the executive session?
no, your honor. Thank you very much, madam chairman. Are you ready? Yes.
all right. We'll call the 7:30 meeting to order and ask you to rise for the invocation And pledge.
council member sharron rogers.
please bow with me. Heavenly father, thank you for the opportunity for all of us to gather here tonight as we Do the business of our city.
we thank you for our citizens who have come here to listen and to participate in our city Government.
we thank you for the blessings you've given us. We thank you for all of our city employees.
we thank you for the wonderful country that we live in and for the opportunities that we Have.
we ask that you go with us tonight as we deliberate the business of our city, that we do So fairly with foresight and with the eye always to do your will.
in jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for Which it stands, one nation under god,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
to welcome you to our meeting tonight, we have first scheduled joint public hearings Between the [inaudible] zoning commission and the council.
we have six of those. The public hearing will be open on each individual case.
the staff will be requested to make an introduction of the request that's being made.
after that, we will give the applicant an opportunity to make a presentation.
if you wish to speak during any of these public hearings, you need to register with tara Brooks so we have a record of your participation.
you're not done. So you can come up now and begin to do that.
after the public hearings, the planning zoning commission will separate to a separate Meeting.
that will be a public meeting. You're invited to attend that and hear the deliberations of the commission.
the council will retain remain in session here and will consider its agenda as published.
so you're invited to be a part of your government tonight. We'll begin by opening the public hearing on am 23-02 electrical vehicle charging Stations.
erica marohnic of our staff. Good evening, honorable mayor, members of the city council, madam chair and members of The planning and zoning commission.
this first joint public hearing item is a text amendment to the zoning ordinance.
it is a request to amend various sections of the zoning ordinance relative to electric Vehicle charging stations and their supply equipment.
the planning and zoning commission held a series of workshops that began on august 1st, 2023 and continued on onto october 17th november 21st,
discussing electric vehicle charging stations as a new and unlisted use in non Residential zoning districts and multifamily zoning districts, and the need for
definitions and use specific standards providing direction on appropriate locations, Buffering, signage and an approval process.
as part of this workshop work, the council also approved a six month moratorium on September 5th, 2023 that would
prohibit the installation of new and replacement ev charging stations.
this is set to expire on march 5th, 2024. The amendment before you and in your council backup materials includes two new Definitions to section 12 of the zoning ordinance for ev charging stations and ev
supply equipment. It allows for ev charging stations in seven zoning districts with approval of a Conditional use request, including the residential multifamily district, community
commercial highway, commercial central business district, light industrial business park District, and governmental use district and within section 42 use
specific standards are established in subsection I, where for new ev charging stations, a Building permit would be required.
a charging station parking is in addition to any required parking spaces for all of the Other uses on the property.
that signage be approved as part of the conditional use permit process, that they may not Be located immediately adjacent to public rights of way, and if located within 50ft of
adjacent residential uses or district screening and buffering be provided. Supply equipment would need to be placed on ground mounted pads and transformers would All need to be either underground or ground
mounted and not aerial, and that every application would require utility will serve Letter from the local electric delivery company.
in addition, emergency shut off equipment would need to be provided for first responders And fire and police, and that these ev charging stations be prohibited in parking
structures, which would be consistent with recently adopted updated building codes and Fire codes.
this includes staff's presentation. I'm available for any questions that the commission or council may have.
questions? No questions. No questions. Questions.
questions from the council? No. I just want to commend everybody that's put a lot of effort into this.
I know that there are some that would rather not have this approval process in place, but We've begun to see these ev stations going up
everywhere, and there's no ability for us to make sure that they're not taking away Required parking and that they're not putting them in in places that are
very unattractive for people that are either walking or driving by and so forth.
so I know that it's been a tough road to get to where we are. And I know that there's been input from, relative to the state fire code requirements to Make sure it's safe in garages and so forth.
so I know that it's, a new thing. We probably have more of these type things we have to deal with in the future.
but I just want to thank you and everybody that's worked on this to get us to this place Tonight.
you're welcome. All right. Any other questions?
no, sir. All right. Thank you erica, do we have anyone wishing to speak?
yes, sir. I have one registered. Mr. Bentley durant, 1101 west state highway 114, in grapevine.
honorable mayor tate and council.
I'm bentley durant. I represent classic chevrolet on 1101 west state highway 114 2501 William d tate and 3001 william d tate avenue.
all these locations are zoned cc commercial. And I'd like to raise a concern over this amendment, because what we're doing here is, While it's fine, my store does need to repair and
service these electric vehicles, and we have several of these stations. In fact, we're always installing new ones or repairing them or upgrading them as the Manufacturer requires it, or as our customers require it.
and we've been lumped into this. But not only is it that, but we've taken all three levels of electric charging stations, And we've made them all these electric charging stations that need a cup,
a level one charging station, for example. It runs the power of about your microwave.
if you plug in your electric car into that, you may take 3 or 4 days to fully charge it.
it is not a big deal. A level two will probably charge your car overnight, most people have these in their home Garage.
it runs about the power of your ac air conditioner unit in your house.
it's kind of a bigger deal, but not that big of a deal. The big deal is these level three charging stations.
these things suck down more power than a 20 story office building. And I think it's this truly that you are seeking to regulate.
and of that I approve these things. It takes me six months to get a permit to put in one of these things from the utilities.
and I agree, going through the cup process and making sure the city is okay with where I'm putting it in makes a lot of sense.
but the other ones, I think we're overdoing it just a bit by lumping them into this same Definition.
I'd also like to know that this requirement is only on the dealerships designated cc Commercial of my dealership.
you've got the nissan dealership, you've got the chrysler dealership. Every other dealership in town is in a different type of zoning district by my review, and Some of them are on airport property.
none of those dealerships would be touched. All of those dealerships would be free to do as they want with the level one, two and Three charging stations.
thank you very much, council. I appreciate the time. Thank you. Any questions?
do I take questions? I don't need questions. Thank you. Anyone else?
no, your honor, and there is one letter in front of you.
I'm sorry. Two letters.
the dealerships on airport property wouldn't be subject to this ordinance.
probably not. Short answer is no mayor. No. No. Okay. Anything else.
I motion to close. We need a motion to close. Move to close. Second.
all in favor? The commission is closed.
a motion from the council. Move to close second. All in favor?
all opposed. Motion carried. The hearing is closed on am 23-02.
public hearing is open on am 23-08. Short term rentals erica marohnic.
this is a request to amend various sections of the zoning ordinance relative to short Term rentals and associated regulations.
there are instances where the city council finds that enacting a permitting program for Short term rentals will serve the balance the rights of all stakeholders in the city
through a fair and balanced regulatory framework that permits short term rentals and Limited locations and under certain circumstances, but ensures that short term rentals do
not become a nuisance to single family neighborhoods. Therefore, this draft ordinance seeks to strike a balance and allow for short term rentals Within two existing multifamily zoning districts with approval of a conditional use permit
and subject to conditions. This amendment proposes new definitions within section 12 for booking service, hosting Platform, short term rental, single family and multifamily short term
rentals, of which single family short term rentals continue to be prohibited, as has been The city's contention since 2018.
and amending section 21, which is currently reserved in the zoning ordinance, to establish Some use specific standards relative to multifamily short term
rentals. And as part of this, it is proposing to establish, a two pronged process.
first, there is the conditional use request process that would require a public hearing Through the planning and zoning commission and city council to approve it within a
multifamily development, and then also a permitting process through the planning services Department and establishing that permitting process, inspection process and
ultimately revocation process if there's noncompliance further on down the road if this Were to be adopted.
so, limitations on hosting platforms or booking services are established as part of Section 21, including reporting
requirements on a quarterly basis. Requirements for payment of hotel occupancy tax to the city and consistent with already Established ordinances on a monthly basis
to the finance department. But the limitations that are established as part of this amendment include that any Multifamily development that's zoned residential, multifamily or residential
multifamily to that, that development must have at least 50 units or more.
that there can't be more than 3% of the available units in the development utilized for Short term rental purposes, that they will be prohibited within
our historic township boundary or transit district overlay, and they also cannot be Located within 500ft of property zoned for single family uses.
this, in essence, allows six multifamily developments at this time in the northeastern Part of the town.
and a maximum total number of 63 units that can be utilized for short term rental Purposes.
if they again were able to go and approve for the conditional use permit and the permit Through the planning services department.
there's a whole host of other conditions and use specific standards outlined here as far As reporting requirements and design requirements and
prohibitions on creating additional bedrooms within an existing multifamily unit.
it also establishes dedicated off street parking and minimum rental periods of 24 hours, And prohibitions on special events.
this concludes staff's presentation. I'm available for any questions you may have.
questions. No questions. All right. Questions from the council.
thank you. Apparently not. Thank you very much, erica. We have anyone wishing to speak?
yes, your honor, I have 12 registered.
john perrault, 705 north main street in grapevine.
I asked her to have me go last. Oh. I'm sorry. No. It's okay. Good evening, and thank you for letting me have the opportunity to talk.
I've been doing this for five years, and I hope everyone received a seven page letter That, the staff printed up.
I think it was 32 copies. Did you all receive that? Yes, sir. Okay. I appreciate if you read it.
I'm not here to cause any problems.
I love this city. I've been living here since "02.
but in your prayer, I think was sharron.
you said in your prayer, I think to be fair. And that's what I'm asking the city council and planning and zoning, to be fair, I was All love for you after
this meeting, before you make a decision to look at grand prairie has.
this is seven pages of an ordinance and rules and regulations that protect the citizens, The city and the airbnb
owners on short term rentals. It's incredible.
I think if you read it, it makes sense.
so grand prairie allows short term rentals, lewisville allows short term rentals.
they all are requiring permits and a detailed ordinance on how to run your airbnb.
irving has it, arlington has it. I can go on and on and on of all the cities that are trying to accommodate airbnb, There's
90 over 9,000 hotel rooms in the city.
I would safely say less than four dozen airbnb's are conducting business.
we're not competition with any of you. In the letter I gave you, I gave you a printout of one of my bookings where the occupancy Tax is taken out by airbnb
and paid to the city. I have no problem with the permit fee.
I have no problem with any ordinances that you want to put on us, as long as it's fair.
so with that said, do you have any questions for me?
oh, you're not entitled to ask that question. You read the the rights that that you sign of a person speaking.
it's not a debate. You get a chance to speak for or against, and that's all.
you don't get a chance to ask questions. Or ask if anybody has a question.
okay, okay. One other thing. Why does the city have short term rentals?
you don't get to ask that. Well, why?
spaces for motorhomes, busses.
that's short term rentals. Go take your seat.
that's what you own. The city owns. All right. You have three minutes to make a statement for or against a proposal.
we have 11 more people that wishes to speak.
so you don't have a chance to debate the council or the planning and zoning commission to Ask questions.
those are the rules and regulations during all public hearings.
so I ask you to abide by them. All right. Ludmilla munz, 526 ball street in grapevine.
to the grapevine city council and the honorable mayor tate.
what's the difference between a 10 day rental, a 30 day rental, a 60 day rental?
renters still have to abide by city ordinances.
municipalities are set in place to look out for the best interest of their citizens.
the city of grapevine appears to be putting hotel interests instead of property owner Interests.
there was a campaign slogan of homes, not hotels.
how many new hotels and rooms do we have now?
what about the cabins at the lake which are short term rentals?
now apartments can short term rent. Who owns these apartments?
proper management of our tax dollars do not include using them to fight against Constituents.
people who have chosen to operate short term rentals are being cited, fined and even Harassed, even though the city has lost three cases in court.
the home owners now represent fund representation to protect their vested interests.
many people have invested funds improving property, which has have increased tax value For
the city. And yet we are being harassed. I personally have had four citations, six different court dates, an attempted $2,000 fine Which resulted
in a six month probation. Even though I was living in my own house, I never short term rented that house one time.
I had citations saying that they saw people in my house on numerous occasions, which makes Me very uncomfortable, as if someone is watching
me in my own property. The texas supreme court, the appellate court and the county court have advised the city That until our state law changes its law for property
owners, the city cannot ban or take away the rights to rent their property for any Duration of time.
this is the court's decision. I have rented, I have hosted many families that are here for medical purposes.
kidney transplant treatment for a child with cerebral palsy, a lady who can't stay in Hotels because fluorescent lights trigger her epilepsy.
I've had two families actually purchase homes in grapevine who have short term rented From me.
these are just regular families. There are way more problems with the city hosting its events.
I know I live on ball street in college traffic jams, parking, not to mention drunk People who drive after great fest from cannon elementary
school. I have seen them with my own eyes. We object to the city.
you have 30 more seconds to five minutes. We object to the city's attempting to stop residents from choosing to host their short Term rentals of their own properties.
thank you, thank you, thank you. Try to keep it to three minutes.
all right next. Theresa [inaudible] 4319 greenwood lane in grapevine.
hello, my name is theresa [inaudible] and I live at 4319 greenwood lane.
I'm here today to tell you my story of why we must keep, short term rentals out of single Family residential areas because of the impacts it has on kids and families.
I'd like to tell you what it's like living next to a house and pool, rented out on a short Term basis, and a constant stream of people.
it started in march 2018 when I was in eighth grade. It finally ended in october when grapevine clarified its ordinances to stop such party Houses.
every week, there were anywhere from 30 to 40 new strangers who came and partied every, Excuse me?
we could hear all, everything that went on in those houses.
our neighbors, our neighborhoods, are very close together. And that's why it was very easy to hear.
the worst part is that I have two learning disabilities adhd and dyslexia.
as well I have sleeping issues. Because of this, I had to work extra hard on my studies, and the party house situation Was nothing but stress on myself and my family.
a home should be a safe haven after school. Unfortunately, this was not the case for me.
what was once a home had become a place where I did not feel safe, nor was I able to Focus on my schoolwork because of the noise and the other activities going on behind our
backyard. Not only did this issue cause lots of noise, but it also affected my feeling of Safety.
for example, I do not feel safe enough to swim in my own pool or go outside in my Backyard.
this year was not from knowing who these people were and not knowing their criminal Histories.
they could quickly come over our shared fence line. And lord knows what they would have done.
which is why I still have the fear of going and playing in my own backyard, of just being In my own backyard.
thank you for letting me share my story. Thank you. Thank you very much.
thank you. Andrew [inaudible] 4319 greenwood lane in grapevine.
good evening. My name is andrew [inaudible] 4319 greenwood lane.
tonight I stand before you. Not only as a grapevine resident, but also as a representative of the texas neighborhood Coalition, a statewide grassroots organization with 21 chapters and thousands of residents
dedicated to addressing the challenges posed by short term rentals. Our coalition, of which I am a co-founder, has been at the forefront of providing Accurate information and dispelling propaganda, propaganda such as it's a
constitutional right, it's our property right, or the state prohibits based on recent House bills and many others.
we partner with residents and cities, even submitting an amicus brief to the texas supreme Court for the grapevine case.
we also work to prevent state legislation that would keep cities from dealing with strs And have been very successful to date.
I bring to you not only my personal experiences, but the collective voice of a community That cares deeply about preserving the sanctity of our neighborhoods.
I want to express my gratitude to the city officials and city attorney for their hard work In crafting the revised str ordinance.
our coalition leaders have thoroughly reviewed it, and our consensus is clear.
it's well thought out, comprehensive and defensible based on current court cases.
your dedication to addressing the disruptions caused by strs is appreciated.
now back in 2018 my family experienced first hand the misery of an str next door, as you Just heard from my daughter.
it was like having a local restaurant, lively outdoor deck and party area practically in Our backyard morning, noon and night.
noise permeating throughout the house. We would have moved.
but thankfully the str sold after you passed the 2018 ordinance. Unfortunately, many grapevine residents have not been as fortunate and some have moved Because of it.
while not all strs are disruptive, many are.
the facts show they catered to large groups of vacationers, contribute to increased Crime, worsen housing situations, provide minimal economic benefits to the city, and
essentially destroy the fabric of neighborhoods. The revised str ordinance is a step in the right direction, but our work is not done.
stay vigilant. Some will try and skirt the ordinance, and we also have to monitor court cases.
and of course, there are well-funded organizations that are constantly trying to turn our Residential neighborhoods into de facto business districts, not only airbnb and
vrbo, but others think swimply, peerspace and many others.
in conclusion, I urge you to support the revised ordinance and recognize the strength that Comes from long term residents living in neighborhood
communities. Let us continue to uphold the values that make grapevine a wonderful place To call home.
thank you. Thank you. Next, tracy minton, 1333 dublin street in grapevine.
thank you so much. My name is tracy minton I live at 1333 dublin street in grapevine.
our family has lived here in this community for ten years. We have four properties in which we pay taxes on all those properties.
we have two homes that we rent out through airbnb.
we currently rent them out for 30 days or more.
we've never had one complaint from any of our neighbors.
and I think that having the airbnb use utilizing that application helps us to keep what You would
describe, as problematic tenants.
if you were to have that same some of those same problem, people rent out your house, Your next door neighbor's house for a year, you're stuck with them for a year.
if I have an airbnb person who comes in for 30 days and they're terrible tenants, they're Out and you don't have to deal with them anymore.
so I would suggest that it's probably more protective.
I do have a couple of rhetorical questions. I'd like to understand how much grapevine has spent of taxpayer dollars to fight the Texas supreme court that's already ruled in favor of short term
rentals. I would also like to understand how you would feel if the government came in to Tell you what to do in your home.
texas tax code chapter 156 shows that short term rentals are not banned or restricted by The landlord tenant law.
texas property code, chapter 92 as in part of the tax code, chapter 156, implicitly Preempts the city's short term rentals ordinance from 2018.
this law can be looked up in the city's appellate court case of appeals number 021900257 Cv on page
40 of its opinion. On page 46, the appellate opinion is stated.
texas common property law preserves the right of leasing as a basic sacred property right And zoning ordinance has allowed short term rentals to property owners in the state to
have historic basic protection for their leasing rights and for any duration of time.
in court the city claims there has been an explosion of short term rentals in grapevine, And I don't believe that that's true.
there are approximately 40. I'm not even sure that that's a good number. It seems there's about 27 in operation, and the city has approved approximately 9,000 Hotel rooms for occupancy in grapevine.
the hotels are where the explosion is, and it's definitely not the strs.
it seems the hotels have the city's favor since the 2018, when the vin and marriott came To town.
that's when it began to be a problem for residents like myself to rent out their homes Short term.
the city has taken our tax dollars and hired one of the most expensive law firms in our County to drag out the current homeowners lawsuit against the city for five and a half
years. And it's still not over. The city dragged this suit to the texas supreme court, knowing all the while that texas Property laws don't support their standing.
several of our local homeowners put large amounts of money towards protecting their Vested rights and interests to lease our property short term.
continuing this course of discrimination against short term rentals will surely incite Future lawsuits.
there are residents in multi-family units, as well as in other residential communities That can be affected in some form.
the city's favor towards hotels should tell the homeowners where the city's priorities Lie, and it's not in the homeowners constitutional rights.
there's there is a strong objection to city's ruling and limitations on short term Rentals.
I would also add that many of the people who rent out their homes is utilizing this as Rental income.
I would be one of those people. The using using strs like airbnb or vrbo
you have 30 seconds to wrap it up. Wrap it up. All right.
thank you. Thank you for your time. I appreciate your service. Thank you.
next. Try to stick to three minutes everybody is running over.
chuck larson, 2924 trail lake drive in grapevine.
mayor. City council. I'll keep mine to three minutes.
thank you. I'd appreciate it.
I've only got a couple of things to say. It's not that long deal. But, number one, I'm 75, I rented, I started, airbnb in 2016.
the city said it was fine. I brought it along. It's become part of my retirement.
and I would venture to say that 3 or 4 people that have spoken tonight are also over 65, And it's part of their retirement.
and so it's like you own a convenience store and suddenly you build all this money and You spend it and refurbish the place and suddenly you can't do it anymore.
I mean, and again, just like the lady said before, it's legal.
people say people cite things like, you know, but six years ago, they had a bad neighbor One time,
that happens. I mean, you have bad neighbors that aren't renters.
they're just bad neighbors. And so I, I just I'm I'm confused.
I don't understand the reason for it. I see that, you know, the hotels are moving in and the pressure is building, but there's Just a few of us, is
there not something that we can come to a compromise and say, maybe put a little tax on It to make it more profitable city?
john peralta and I live on the same street, main street on north main, and nobody Nobody's going to the big hotels.
they come in to go to main street. My place has three bedrooms.
I always have three couples in there, and I have a backyard for dogs because they can't Afford to stay in the hotels, and if they do, they're going to run down 114 out
of grapevine where they can they can not spend their tax dollars in grapevine, or they Can't get to main street as easily.
all I'm saying is this, is there's something we can work out for the small amount of 40 People, 40 or 30 or 20 or whatever it is, I don't know, but that's all I've got
to say. Thank you very much. Thank you sir. You did stay within the three minutes.
thank you. All right.
william loeb, 1937, north port court in grapevine.
council members, commissioners and mayor tate.
I'll stay within three minutes also. My name is william loeb.
my wife is lois loeb. She's over there. We've been homeowners in grapevine for 28 years.
we've owned a short term rental airbnb, since the fall of 2016.
and it's by the grace of god that we set up our strp.
it is by the grace of god that we continue to thrive with it, and it is by the grace of God that we will continue with it.
and I would like to point out something like the gentleman ahead of me said, as we we Were basically told it was legal.
as we were considering investing lois's inheritance in a property in grapevine, our Realtor advised us to check with the city to make sure it wouldn't violate any laws
or rules or regulations. Lois called the city and questioned around and was transferred around a number of times.
and finally some lady said, wait, are you talking about your own property that you want To rent out?
yes, you can do that. Wait. Yes, you can do what you want with your own property.
so I'd like to say that again. Yes, you can do what you want with your own property.
so we moved ahead and invested a quarter million dollars in a home in grapevine.
and remember, it's 2016 and a considerable amount of our time into this strp.
and now it seems like the rules are changing. And I was going to ask why, but it sounds like I shouldn't be asking questions, so I'll Thank you for your time.
thank you. Thank you sir. All right. Next. Lori [inaudible] 1719 silver side drive in grapevine.
hi dear city council and my neighbors and grapevine.
I'm lori teets and I am for the updated str zoning zoning ordinance 821773.
during these last six years, because of the current pending court case, I have lived next To an str in our single family neighborhood.
and there's been. And here's a bit of what it's like. I've had thousands of transient strangers next to me and I would not raise a child, pull The mic down a little bit.
oh, sorry about that. Thanks. I'm short.
I would not raise child in my house. It's not safe.
this is not a typical airbnb for a couple of people or family, for it is high density Str.
it advertises to sleep 26. It's a 24/7 business operation.
large numbers, huge variety, vacationing people, nobody on site and out of town owner.
so the so-called managing of the crowds is me and our neighbors calling the police.
for example, I called police not too long ago, 2:00 in the morning, loud partying noises, One car there and guess what?
there was approximately 20 people highly intoxicated was the police report.
there's been constant activity, especially at night.
beeping cars, banging gate for years, not fixed, ignored by the notifications, people Cutting across my lawn
to go to and from the lake, asking to go back into my backyard to retrieve items because The pool in the deck are even with the top of the fence.
people can see into my house and I can see them. So trash and beach balls and whatever items can easily come into my yard.
I've had ubers go into my driveway, partly because the house numbers are difficult to See, especially at night.
I've had 24 cars next to me, valet parking, many large events.
there's been fights, yelling, pot smoking, photo shots, lots of drinking, jerry jeff Walker to rap music.
just just too much more. I have to mention the infrastructure for our sewers.
they are made for single family homes. Plumbers have been there next door many a time.
one day, two days later, after the plumbers were there, my toilet me one person.
at that time, my plumber said my line was clear.
the blockage was at the street. High density strs greatly affected my life and my right to have sanctuary and enjoyment In my in my
home. The problem is there's no consistency like there would be a normal neighbor.
life within a str is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get every day or every night, but hey, it's their Vacation time.
so regardless if I have to work the next day. Without restrictions, this easily could happen to any house that comes up for sale next Door and is brought bought by an out of town
investor and then completely rebuilt into a high density vacation hotel.
believe me, they are not our neighbors, and I thank you for your work and protecting our Neighborhoods and keeping them safe.
thank you, thank you, thank you. All right. Next, dennis brewer 1859 chris croft, grapevine.
thank you council, for the opportunity to speak.
despite zoning that goes back for many years in grapevine, apparently an inquiry was made By an entrepreneur seeking to operate an str in a
residentially zoned neighborhood. It is said that a city employee gave the impression that there did not appear to be Actions taken to make strs comply with the in place
zoning restrictions. Those in the str industry use that response as an excuse to ignore existing zoning laws, Betting that there would be no
consequences, just big money. Approximately five years ago, the str issue came to a head and the council voted against Allowing these commercial enterprises to operate in residential
areas. Thanks to the grapevine city council for having taken that action, it put a a Moratorium
on new strs, which I feel saved our family from having an str right next door to our our Home.
I believe that we would all agree that having an str as your next door neighbor would be Very undesirable.
slightly analogous to our southern border situation.
the proliferation of strs in grapevine and cities worldwide has brought unwanted Activities, including criminal behavior, down upon legal
inhabitants. Homeowners and long term renters have thought that they had bought and Rented homes with a blanket contract of of
zoning ordinances to protect them from commercial, unscrupulous and undesired activities, Which can be right next door to
them. Dallas, for example, despite their city council and a sitting, a strong coalition Has not been able to rein in the
str industry. Strs can be great when they follow the rules and don't trample the rights of others.
however, the the huge money involved will keep the str business looking for ways to skirt The rules.
it is incumbent upon the council, the city legal staff, code enforcement and us citizens To be vigilant and enforce our zoning laws and help keep,
help, maintain grapevine as a family first city, I feel that your new ordinance is a Great step in that direction,
thanks to the city of grapevine for their efforts to keep grapevine a great place to call Home.
thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you very much. Next. Keith pardue 1420mockingbird in grapevine.
good evening, mr. Mayor and city council. My name is keith pardue. I live at 1420 mockingbird.
it's in the north side of the city. I've been there, my wife and I've been there more than 35 years.
we live next door to, a short term rental. We live two houses from a short term rental, so two houses to one side and the next door Neighbor to the other side.
the one place has been there for more than five years.
I am speaking in favor of this proposed amendment.
I don't think that there should be strs in any residential neighborhood.
several people have mentioned the 9,000 hotels we have here in grapevine, but there's not A marriott on mockingbird.
let me just say this. I've been there a long time. There are no hotels in my neighborhood, and I don't think there should be any strs.
there have been issues, at the one next door to us. Not a lot, but there have been issues.
and so we just. I'm speaking for my wife and I she's not here tonight, but we are just opposed to having Any strs next door to me or the next street over or the street behind.
so I'm in favor of this. Thanks for your time. Thank you very much, sir. Next, wendy.
and I'm sorry I can't read your last name. 1609 crestwood trail in keller.
hello. Thank you. I'm wendy bok, and keller is where we live. But we also have a short term rental on wharf street in grapevine.
we purchased it in 2016 and we came like many others and said, you know, are we able to Do this?
we even got a $5,000 check because we made big improvements on our home.
it's an historical, it's actually an historical home. I do feel sorry for all of you who have.
I really didn't come prepared to talk, so I don't have anything to read or anything like That. But I feel sorry for people who have bad experiences with bad neighbors or, short term Rental people.
I don't have any problems with any of mine and my neighbors. I call on them and say, if you ever have any problems, you give me a call and we'll make Sure to kick those people out, because people that have
airbnb and vrbo. They are we we we have to give them a good review, just like they give us a good review.
so anybody that I've ever had any kind of problems with, they are not no longer able to Come to my home.
and I just believe that if we have to pay a permit fee or anything like that, I'm okay With that.
I pay my taxes, my house has gone up in value, and I just want to make sure that, you Know, it's y'all are treated everything fair.
that's all I have to say. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you ma'am.
next, gregory johnson, 1658 chateau circle in grapevine.
good evening, ladies and gentlemen, I'm greg.
I'm here to speak about please don't restrict short term rentals.
restrict the bad behavior because it's not. It's people that are causing the issues with some of these people.
and I've heard some exaggeration also. But it's our property.
if it's if it's ethical, if it's moral, then what issue do you guys have with it?
thanks. Have a good evening. Thank you. Next. I don't have any more. All right.
all right. Do you have anything further? Madam chairman? No.
any questions? Or does council have anything further?
all right. You need a motion to close.
motion to close. Second. All in favor?
zoning commission has voted, closed the public hearing, a motion from the council.
close the public hearing. Second. All in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.
public hearing is closed. Public hearing is open on conditional use permits. Cu 23-36.
this is the old hickory at the gaylord texan. Erica marohnic. This request is to expand the existing building footprint, revise exterior Elevations, and revise the floor plan to an existing old
hickory restaurant on the ground floor of the gaylord texan resort.
the subject property is currently zoned pcd planned commerce development district.
this resort has an existing conditional use permit as part of a planned commercial center For the possession, storage and retail sale of alcohol in conjunction with the restaurant,
hotel and convention center. The proposal before you this evening includes a portion of the existing outdoor courtyard For this restaurant to allow for 1,400 square foot
restaurant expansion. The expansion revises the hotel's western elevation and expands the floor plan of the Restaurant's ground floor.
the main access of the two level restaurant is from an interior corridor within the Resort and hotel building.
this expansion also includes an additional 76 seats, for a total of 369 seats for the Restaurant total.
this concludes staff's presentation. The applicant's representative, mr. Kevin carlson with hewitt zollars, is here this evening, and mr.
albems with the gaylord texan resort is also here this evening to answer any questions That the commission and council may have.
thank you. Madam chairman. Questions. Questions.
I don't have a whole lot to add, but, kevin carlson with hewitt zollars, as was discussed.
there you go. You can see on your screen there, it's a mainly from the standpoint of the Exterior.
you've got the patio courtyard that was there that's going to be replaced with this Conservatory, kind of glassed in, about 1,400 square feet addition.
and then also the restaurant, existing restaurant is going to be renovated.
alcohol storage is going to be in the same, same locations, that it is today.
happy to answer any questions if there are any. Any questions?
is this the first renovation of old hickory since the opening, or has it been renovated Before?
it is the first. Okay.
a nice rendering. Any other questions? Are you adding seating there in the conservatory?
there will be seating in there. It's the added 76 approximately seats.
thank you. Have anyone wishing to
speak? No, your honor. Any correspondence? No, sir. All right. You need a motion to close the public hearing.
close. Second. All in favor?
second. All in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.
public hearing on cu 23-36 is closed.
public hearing is now open on conditional use permit cu 23-37 great wolf lodge.
erica marohnic. This is a request to add a new vestibule to the existing front entrance of the great wolf Lodge resort.
additionally, they are adding a statue to the main entrance and an additional outdoor Adventure trail to the rear of the existing building.
the subject property is currently zoned cc community commercial district.
this resort has an existing conditional use permit as part of a planned commercial center That allows for the possession, storage and retail sale of alcoholic beverages in
conjunction with the hotel, waterpark and outdoor speakers. The applicant's proposal includes a 321 square foot, 15 foot tall vestibule located Underneath the hotel's main entry porte cochere
. Ten existing trees are proposed to be removed as part of this addition and replaced with 29 new trees, which are proposed in line with the southbound vehicle driveway.
in addition, a 14 foot tall wolf statue is proposed on the west side of the southbound Vehicle drive adjacent to the main entry porte cochere.
and lastly, a 3,800 square foot, 30 foot tall outdoor adventure trail, or play structure Is proposed in the rear of the subject site and a grass covered area
adjacent to an existing outdoor ropes course. The applicant's representative, mr.
billy avila, is here this evening to answer any questions that the commission and council May have.
thank you.
good evening, billy avila. Just here if there are any questions or concerns regarding the proposal.
any questions? Can you speak a little about the safety of the adventure?
what's it called? Adventure outdoor adventure trail where employees are going to be Stationed and what kind of training do they have?
yeah, as per some of the existing, adventure trail that are on property, there would be Employees monitoring these stations.
they would be trained in safety and therefore the guests at all times.
is it designed more for adults, children, everybody?
it's all inclusive. So it'd be for children and available for adults as well.
thank you.
where is that going to be exactly? That would be just off, adjacent to the existing porte cochere, part of the the proposed Renovation is to update the porte cochere.
there's some existing, wolf statues that would be on there. So those would be coming down to, to be more, standard architecture on, on the porte Cochere.
so we would this would become the photo opportunity for the guests that are there Currently.
the porte cochere has the themed elements on there. And when guests are coming in there to take photographs, they're kind of getting in the Way of the vehicular traffic as well.
so this creates a much safer environment for the photo opportunities for the guests.
I'm sorry, what's the material of it? This would be a themed element.
it'd be a mix of steel and shotcrete. Okay.
very fond of those existing two wolves that are up there.
those were a couple of the elements that when we looked at great wolf properties in other Parts of this country.
we talked to the property owners about the need for it to fit into the texas theme.
and and of course, we had wolves here at one time. May still have some somewhere, I don't know, other than backyards.
but those two wolves were a really good attraction whenever, the property was built.
what are you going to do with those two wolves? Well, as I mentioned, those. The current wolves are in a state of disrepair, so there's ongoing maintenance that that Has to go on with those elements in their current construction,
as I mentioned. The their, the guests that come in there would like to take photos with Those wolves for the obvious reasons.
and so and it does pose a challenge because of some of the vehicular access where they Exist today.
so relocating this wolf and creating a plaza specifically for the wolf to represent the What is the great wolf
lodge and provide a much more safe environment for that activity.
all the kids and families want to take pictures around those wolves. This provides a better option and opportunity for them to do with the two existing wolves That they will be removed off property, correct?
okay. Do you have a rendering that shows us what the front of your building is going to Look like?
I believe there was an elevation, as you mentioned. You were going to make some changes there.
yes. So is there another?
so it's this one on the right. No this is showing the the the entry vestibule.
so will the new wolf be to out from the porte cochere won't be in the porte cochere area At all?
well, the new wolf statue. Excuse me? The new wolf statue will will be in that porte cochere area, just adjacent to It.
the existing wolves themselves, the themed elements will be removed and we'll have, Standard structure, wood clad structure.
so the front end, I'm looking at a picture of it now, and it's going to look considerably Different with those two big wolves gone.
and I understand the need to have one on a lower level for photo ops. I get that. I'm just trying to figure out, with those two very prominent wolves there, It's going to really change the visual appearance of the front of the building
that was very dear to us whenever we approved the plans for it to be built. That's where I'm headed with this.
yeah, I understand that the, the, the architecture of the porte cochere itself, where Those wolves exist today, will will more match the
the esthetic of the architecture of the buildings themselves. As you're driving in, to the entry of the wolf plaza will be a prominent, similar to Where those wolves are now.
so when you're entering the entry drive that the wolf statue will be the primary visible Element, similar to to what those existing wolf statues
are. And the front of the building, though itself, is going to look rather plain.
without these two prominent wolves there that are so part I mean it's it's the identity Of the of the whole structure, the whole building.
I mean, I, you know, I think that it's going to, to the architecture itself is going to Be more representative of the overall architecture of the building.
the wolf itself, as I mentioned, will be a rather large wolf structure in that same area.
thank you. So so I get the the new wolf, and that will be in a place that's not as in the Flow of traffic.
what can we do to retain the existing wolves as well for the front structure, for the for The visual appeal of the entry.
the current proposal is, is to create the new wolf statue at that entry area in place of The wolf.
and what can we change about that to retain the existing wolves or at least replace them In those places?
we would have to evaluate that. They're old and in disrepair.
they're in disrepair. We can replace them. I mean, they can be updated, but I do think that they are part of the the appeal of the Of the entry area.
yes. I think the struggle is we're not able to see the visual. I'm sure that great wolf has thought through what the visual will look like, so that it's Still honors [inaudible] what everybody's talking about here.
it's just that we don't see what that visual is. So we're probably help at some point.
not that it might hurt the approval, I don't know, but it would help for us to be able to See visually what that's going to look like.
sure. Yeah. On the on the package that we submitted. Yeah. On the package we submitted, there was an elevation that shows the, the Simplification of the, of the porte cochere when you remove those wolf
statues. Again, you know, the
just say you're going to put them somewhere else on site.
we will do our best. It would help. Yeah. And that that was the purpose of the, of the new wolf is to, to to maintain that Esthetic, you know, and the opportunity I think they know what they're
doing. I think there was you know are seen from the street, it does the facility I think, That
they have been an important element, I understand and have seen people taking pictures.
I wish you would have maybe posted those as no picture areas and tried to, provided an Alternate for pictures, you know, when they
enter the building rather than taking those away. I hate to see them go.
I think that's your prerogative, probably, though, and not ours, but I think it is a big Step bigger than probably you think.
it seems to me there was a more sensible way of, of handling the problem than taking away Your your best
advertisement. This new wolf looks pretty impressive. How is how much bigger is it in comparison to the other two?
bigger, same size? It's. I mean, it's going to be, I believe the size of that will will match the somewhere Near the the the size of the porte cochere itself.
and so it's going to be of good size. And as I mentioned, when you're driving in, it will become the first element that you See.
similar to the way the existing wolves are today. You might think about putting a wolf out on close to the entryway so it designates it's Something different.
it's not just another hotel or another, where, office building or something.
I think it I think that is important. I would hope you would consider doing something like that.
I will relay that. Go ahead. No, you go ahead, mr. Rumbelow when great wolf lodge was visiting with us and we were, of course, wanting them To come, did we give incentives to great
wolf lodge to come to grapevine? We did. Okay. Yes, ma'am we did.
and as I recall, it was substantial. And the wolves were a part of the project that they committed to do.
they would have been at that time. Yes, your honor. Yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you.
kind of surprised I'm talking about wolves right now, but I just looked at the pictures. There's currently four wolves.
are we getting rid of all four of them? The wolves that are associated with the with the porte cochere.
so the ones on top as well. Correct. Okay. Just just asking.
I would like for you just to consider some other options to retain or have more wolves.
I'm sorry, I can't hardly not laugh about this conversation. That's the signature of your property.
it is? Yeah. And again, that's why, you know, I don't know if we could go back to one of the slides so You can kind of show the proximity of, of on the site where if you see where the blue
porte cochere is, just adjacent to it, the circle, that's where the new wolf statue will Will exist.
and so, as I mentioned, when you're coming in the entry drive, that will become your Primary focal point of those wolves.
I understand that, and I'm okay with your new wolf. I'm okay with your I'm okay with the new wolf.
I see it's over 14ft tall.
no it'll be right by the porte cochere.
no, it's going to be on the back. No, it's going to be right here on the front. They're going to take those two down and put that little one right here.
you know, the other great wolf lodge is that I've been to were made of logs.
you could tell that it was a lodge just by, you know, seeing it from a distance.
this one was done in a different concept. And that's why those wolves were there to show it was something different.
so I think it's a business decision for you all, but I really think you need to think Through it further than the safety issue.
you need to do it from an advertising and a really promoting the hotel to do something Out front.
that's not going to be convenient for people to stop and take pictures.
as the great wolf resorts have gone into renovate some of their other properties as well.
they've, they've, established this statue in those areas as well because of the fondness That everybody has with with the wolves and the
photo opportunities that, that they're taking with them. And maybe through the expansion, if you do the expansion, you can do something there on That that's not accessible to the public.
you could put maybe some wolves out on those land. Of the new additions that that I've seen, that might be an option too.
yeah, I'll raise that with the team. Yeah. Anything else?
nothing. Thank you very much. Thank you. Do we have any one wishing to speak?
no, your honor, do we have any correspondents? No, sir. Need a motion to close.
move to close, second. All in favor? Commission closed, a motion from the council moved to close second.
all in favor? All opposed. Public hearing was closed on cu 23-37.
public hearing is open on historic district landmark sub-district hl 23-3, erica Marohnic.
the applicant is requesting a historic landmark sub-district designation for a property Located at 220 blevins street and platted as block 1 lot 3, ratliff addition.
the property is presently zoned r7.5 single family district, and the subject site is Developed as a single family residence on approximately
14,000ft². The single family residence was constructed in 2006 and was designed by a Well-known architect, david webster george, who was a fellow of
frank lloyd wright's. The subject property was also once part of the yancy farm, which joined the historic Thomas j.
nash farm of 1860. Excuse me, 1859.
the historic preservation commission has approved this request at their meeting on December 13th, 2023.
the city's historic preservation officer, mr. David klempin, is here this evening and he's available to answer any specific questions You may have relative to the request, as well as the applicant and owner mr.
dr. Curtis ratliff is here as well this evening. Thank you. Question.
no questions from the council.
have any one wishing to speak? No, sir. Correspondence? No, sir. Does the applicant have anything?
madam chairman, we need a motion to close. Move to close. Second.
all in favor? Commission closed. Motion from the council.
move to close. Second. All in favor? All opposed?
motion carries. Public hearing is closed on hl 23-3.
public hearing is now open on transit district overlay td023-03 grapevine
brownstones phase two. The final plat of lot 2 block 1 hasten addition, erica marohnic.
this is a request for transit district overlay to allow for a condominium development of 18 units on a 1.24 acre lot.
the subject site is located on the south side of east dallas road and north of nash Street.
presently zoned li light industrial district. This is the second phase of the grapevine brownstones phase one project, which was Approved to the immediate west with 10 condominium units, which has begun construction.
this project was initially heard and denied by the council and commission without Prejudice.
at a joint meeting of the council and commission at the november 21st, 2023 meeting, and At that time they were proposing 20 condominium units on the same lot.
since this meeting, the applicant has substantially revised their site plan, removing two End units from the centrally located building, bringing the net density from approximately
16 dwelling units an acre to 14.5 dwelling units per acre, making it closer in density to Phase one to the west.
in addition, through the removal of the two units, the site has gained four additional off Street parking spaces for guests and two courtyard areas totaling
2,300ft² of additional open space within those courtyards. Condominiums are identified as an appropriate use within the high intensity sub-district Of the transit district overlay.
with this, the request the applicant intends to demolish the existing 5,000 square foot One story professional office building, associated parking and vehicle maneuvering
area on the south side of east dallas. Five structures will feature the 18 units, with 3 immediately fronting both east nash Street and 3 fronting east dallas road, and all units will
appear as brownstones, but will not be on fee simple lots, but will be condominium Ownership.
the maximum height will be four stories 51ft with three story's under air, with a fourth Story as a rooftop terrace with cupola featuring at least three bedrooms in each
unit with at least a two car garage. The site will have two access points, one from east dallas road, one from east nash Street, and an internal access point from the north to south, which is also shown on the
associated final plat. Attached as an exhibit to this agenda memo is an affidavit of compliance signed by the Project architect, stating the project follows both the design standards manual for
multifamily and vertical mixed use development and the transit district overlay design Standards.
this concludes staff's presentation. The applicant, mr. Greg gifford with new city capital, is here this evening.
he has prepared a presentation as to available to answer any questions that either the Commission or council may have.
mayor members of council. Members of planning and zoning. Thank you for your time.
my name is greg gifford. I live at 1701 dunn street here in grapevine.
we presented this case, as erica mentioned, on the 21st and the the treatment of the case Was extended to us without prejudice, which allowed us to listen to all the comments,
recommendations and corrections. And we did that in detail. Brought to you tonight the revision of that, application.
the key, comments were reduce density, which we've done, green space, which we've done With two courtyards and
additional guest parking, which we've added with the guest parking with the courtyards.
one of the one of the things that we took the opportunity to do was visit with, staff And, and
council to immediately get back on the, on the, on the train to get the revisions put Together.
we gathered our architects, landscape architect, civil engineer and all that goes into Resubmitting an application.
we turn that back in and tonight we'll show you the details of that. So, one of the things I wanted to comment on is that the the transit district is working.
it is highly desirable homes.
right. So, the excitement of the vin, the the total main street, harvest hall, peace Plaza
all contributes to a desirable living location, right in the core of our town.
so we're excited about that. All homes on phase one are have been under contract for a while.
on phase two, all 20 homes have been reserved. Now there's 18 and we have a waiting list of about 22 more.
so clearly the demand for excitable living and quality living in the core of of the Dallas street corridor is attractive.
so we want to thank you guys for allowing us to present. I'd like to invite jason back to give you the details.
good evening. Planning and zoning, city council. I'm jason beck. I'm a partner with greg on the grapevine brownstones project.
I wanted to take I wanted to echo greg's thanks and allowing us to come back and answer Some of the finer points that both p&z and council gave to us in november.
and our key takeaways from that, like greg said, were, overall reduction in residence Density, add more green space and more parking.
and I wanted to take the next slide to show exactly how we did that. And what the positive consequences of having done that are.
so this is our revised site plan. You can see we've removed those two residences, which have established more green space At the northern and southern ends of our row houses, as we call them.
those are going to be, that's basically allowing us to do all three of our key takeaways From november, which are to reduce our density.
also, allow us to increase our overall guest parking.
and also, increase the green space. So what we think we've come back with, is a really good answer for what the for p&z and Council requested to bring a more residential,
less dense feel into the high intensity transit district.
this rendering is an illustration of our northern courtyard, which we're going to Landscape with juniper and maple trees.
this is this point of view is looking west towards phase one. You can kind of see the the phase one home through there.
it really ties in both phase one and phase two, creating a more compelling, greenspace Area between the two.
this is the other end of that courtyard, kind of showing how phase one and phase two are Going to be drawn together and activates that green space area.
and then on our southern end towards east nash street, we're providing equally high Foliage with junipers and maples, place to sit, as well as additional guest parking.
with the reduction of those two homes, we've increased our overall guest parking by, our General guest parking rather by four.
our total guests our total parking on the site is 58, with 22 of those being off, off Street guest parking.
I wanted to briefly touch on, our collaboration with architects through the tdo.
and what we've been able to create directly across from harvest hall and then, two doors Down from the brewery and stellini.
like greg said, without rehashing, we've, we think we've been able to create a product That's luxury and walkable, for a lot of folks.
and that's been resonating, in a lot of ways throughout the market.
again, this is going to be our nash street frontage. And we think that this is also going to be able to really bring the rec closer to the Transit district with a direct cut through, between the bringing
nash street all the way up to dallas. Finally, we just want to thank you again for the ability to come back and make this Better.
pending any questions, this is going to conclude our presentation.
any questions? Any questions from council?
I just want to say thank you for coming back with being so positive and coming back with A good solution to the issues that we had.
thank you ma'am. So you are not proposing to change the zoning?
you're wanting to keep the light industrial zoning on this tract and build townhouses on It.
so without based on our previous trajectory, we started off with the tdo as a,
without yes, we with our our current proposal, it would be existing li.
but, that wasn't really something that we went into when we rooted our application.
we just viewed the tdo as our ordinance to go through, in order to create this product.
okay. The renderings are lovely. Would you agree to rezone it to the use that you're going to put on the property?
would you absolutely do that? Absolutely. All right. I noticed that the walkways on the drawing, if I'm looking at it correctly, are five feet Wide.
the tdo requires eight feet.
it doesn't appear that that's [inaudible]. I'm sorry where, ma'am?
the walkways on nash, as well as on east dallas road. The walkways are shown to be five feet wide.
as well as there's a three foot one in a couple of places in the interior.
and the ordinance requires that they be a minimum of eight feet wide.
and that does not be something that is variable. So I'm wondering if perhaps it was a mistake or maybe it was an oversight, because I'm Sure you'd want to meet the requirements of the ordinance.
sure. Yes, ma'am.
I have a I'm going to ask to use the document camera real quick. I have my, my packet that I'll point too on here that [inaudible].
certainly.
oh. Thank you.
it's a five foot walk, so it's comparable to what we're doing here? Yes. Okay. Thank you.
I wanted to show the illustration on the bottom, but also in the packet we have the Letter from architects.
yes, sir. That when we go when we went through that with craig and robin, we talked about Based on the property
as it exists now, what is a what is the proper fit?
what is what is what is doable based on the property as it is right now.
and the the product that we came up with was a five foot landscape zone, the five foot Walk, and then the five foot, essentially green space in
between the sidewalk and the homes. And based on the property lines as they are, that was, determined by architects and our Architect to be the proper way to treat it.
okay. You're going to tear down the building that's on the property now, if I recall Correctly.
so you're basically going to have a flat piece of property to design a project that would Fit with the current ordinance, which requires the eight foot sidewalk.
that's where I'm headed. And it is a requirement in there and I see that your architect said that you all Basically met the requirements.
and I think that's why I thought perhaps he had overlooked that one, since it is a Requirement of the ordinance.
that's why I asked the question. The area that I'm looking at is on the site plan, and it does show five feet over there On nash street and over on east dallas road as well.
and that's where I got that. So thank you for your for your answer. Yes, ma'am. Anything else?
all right. Thank you very much. Is there anyone wishing to speak? No, your honor, any correspondence?
no, sir. Madam chairman, we need a motion to close. Move to close. Second.
all in favor?
of lots two block, one of the [inaudible] that completes the joint public hearings Between the council and the planning zoning commission.
the commission will now recess to their separate meeting. The council will pick up with this agenda shortly.
agenda is citizen comments any. Do we have any requests tonight?
yes sir, I have two. Any person who's not scheduled on the agenda may address the city council under citizen Comments on or on any other agenda item by completing a
citizen's appearance request form with the city secretary. Member of the public may address the city council regarding an item on the agenda, either Before or during the council's consideration of the item upon being
recognized by the mayor. Upon the consent of the city council, in accordance with the texas open meetings act, the City council is restricted in discussing or taking action during citizen
comments. There again, you sign a request to speak.
you're given three minutes to make a statement. You're not to ask questions or ask for any response from the gallery is just to make a Statement and that's
it. And the council won't be able to respond either or to take any action.
all right. You may go forward with the citizen comments. Thank you. Elizabeth d kaufman, 1210 [inaudible] street in grapevine.
I know everybody's about at the end of their day here
. So I just want to speak on behalf of the pedestrians and cyclists in the grapevine city.
I think grapevine has made terrific progress, in making this more accessible city.
and I wanted to make a suggestion that we have a connectivity issue and just kind of Plant this seed for everybody to take under their
consideration that the only accessible route out of town right now, to the north or east Is bass pro drive.
and that intersection was just redone in the last few years.
but right now, eastbound bass pro drive as you go over the bridge on 121, it is four Lanes.
one lane turns left. You go over the bridge and then you're in a left turn lane, which is not marked until you Pass the traffic signal.
the right lane goes right and one lane goes forward. You get into coppell, and then there's a nice sign that says cyclists may use full lane.
and what I'm asking is if we could possibly consider, putting up some better signage for The turn lanes and also
including a cyclists may use full lane on the bass pro bridge eastbound into coppell.
and anyway, thank you for your time. And I said I'd keep it brief.
thank you, thank you, thank you. Next. Clarence mueller, 3612 lake ridge drive in grapevine.
good evening, mayor and council members. My name is clarence mueller, 3612 lake ridge drive.
I'll keep it short, I promise. Three things I won't talk about tonight sidewalks, short term rentals or wolves.
[laughter] but, I do want to talk a little bit about fairway drive and the dam road.
and I believe it's such a key asset for grapevine. And it offers stunning views of our lake as well as key connectivity to some other key Assets, primarily the golf course and rock ledge
park, of which I believe rock ledge park has become reasonably underutilized by grapevine Now as it's become a bit of an island out there.
and I think we have an option to reclaim that. Currently, that road is now primarily used by cut through traffic for the high rise, high Density housing that's being placed by flower mound right on our
border, making the dam road as well as parts of the links trail as we cross fairway drive Really unsafe for use by bicycles,
pedestrians, and even car traffic has gotten a bit hairy over there as it's gotten busier With another tower under construction and more planned in flower mound, we're going to see
continual increases in traffic, and I believe now's the time that we reclaim this asset And utilize some of the unprecedented funding
available by both us department of transportation as well as txdot for active Transportation projects and alternatives.
that money's there. It's at a very unusual split now. Instead of the normal 50/50, it's 80/20, so we can get a hold of that.
and so what I'd like to propose is that the city consider workshopping some creative Solutions that would allow us to prioritize our citizens
over pass through traffic from flower mound, using that asset to get to the highway Versus going the other way.
and I'd love to see us find a way to reclaim this incredible asset for grapevine.
thank you. Have a good night.
is that it? Yes, sir. All right. All right. That completes our citizen comments.
okay. We have some presentations to make.
the first is to present a proclamation declaring january 19th as texas association of Structural movers day.
structures have been moved within grapevine historic district for more than 100 years, 1976.
moving the tour and log cabin to main involve the city of grapevine and the structural Moving process.
since that time, more than 40 structures have been lifted and moved in the grapevine Historic township in support of historic preservation for the involvement of the city of
grapevine staff and members of the texas association of structural movers.
preserving these historic structures by moving them ensures that the history and the Heritage of the grapevine prairie will remain as an architectural testimony for
future generations. Keeping historic buildings protects the planet by keeping important sound buildings in Use, and not wasting landfills as demolition debris.
moving these structures involves spending $464,300 with members of the texas association Of structural movers.
these relocation structures in the grapevine historic township are valued today at $12,385,324.
the work could not be accomplished without the involvement of our partners, members of The texas association of structural movers.
it is anticipated that this partnership and activity will continue throughout the year And for years to come.
I therefore declare january the 19th, as texas association of structural movers day in Grapevine, in honor of the long standing
relationship between the city and the members of the association who's having their 2024 Conference at the grapevine on january the
18th through the 21st. Do we have anyone here to accept that
. All right. Thank you all very much. A few words. All right. Appreciate it. Could you gentlemen introduce yourself, please?
I just come up to the mic a minute. [inaudible] first of all, thank you for this.
this is. We're proud to help the city move all those buildings.
this is my brother, tim hitchcock. I'm mark hitchcock. This is gary snow with snow house moving.
our granddad went in business in 1944 and has moved a ton of buildings here in grapevine Way before grapevine even had a historic
society. And, we're we're proud to to keep it up.
and I know the snow family feels the same way. Oh, yes. We've been working with grapevine for many years and continue to work with them.
all right. Thank you all for y'all. Do a great job. Thank you very much. Thank you for your business [applause]. I'm proud of us. Thank you very much.
it's always fun to watch you all provide a lot of entertainment when you move those big Buildings.
movers over the last 20 years, and personally worked with over moving 20 buildings with, With these guys.
wow. So it's pretty amazing. But I thank the council as well, and mayor and city manager and everyone here for Allowing that great achievement to be accomplished
glad we still have people in the business that can move houses and we can save them.
thank you all very much. I'll say one more thing, but as a kid, we grew up in coppell, and My granddad used to tell me that he moved that old snow cone stand one time, and
I sure would like to know where he moved it from, you know. But thank you.
thank you guys. We appreciate it. Thank you much. Next we have a report from our emergency management coordinator, about Our
mass notification emergency system, tj [inaudible].
good evening everyone. Mayor council. City management.
it's not very often that the emergency manager gets to speak to a group like yours in Non-emergency situations, so I certainly appreciate your time.
I'm going to talk to you briefly tonight about some, changes that are going to occur with Our mass notification system that I really believe are going to improve, the ability to
communicate with our citizens as well as save the taxpayers, a considerable amount of Money.
just give some background. Code red by onsolve is currently our mass notification system.
we intend to switch from code red to civic ready.
we already have a relationship with civic ready under the the parent company civic plus, Who, is in or who is our currently our,
website host and administrator. The important part about that information is that the, the mass notification system and The website interface will work together
and we'll be able to, basically, tie those things together and improve the overall mass Notification system in the city.
the first bullet here is basically civic plus's, marketing statement.
they, they basically got into the business of government website hosting, and the mass Notification piece was a natural evolution of their their product line.
what is important for us to know is that civic ready managed the the national test Conducted by fema of the integrated public warning and alert
system. So the expectation is that if they can handle something as complex and as large As that, then they could probably handle grapevine city pretty pretty
easily. Several benefits with with making this move and I'll highlight just a few.
first and foremost, civic ready advertises 12,000 voice calls, 60,000 text messages and 50,000
emails per minute. Obviously, that that number and that advertisement is contingent upon our local Infrastructure, being up and running cell towers not being
congested, etc., which would obviously degrade some of that.
but, on any given day they can promise, a, a rate of messaging that far exceeds what our Current
provider provides. As a matter of fact, when we became customers, clients of code red, they did an Assessment of grapevine communications capability.
and because of that, they tailored the the amount of messages that can go out at any one Time.
and that hasn't been revisited, since 2015. And when you consider the, the astronomical, increases in communication, abilities, it's, It's severely limiting our
ability to create messages. In fact, when I, when I create messages for fireworks or other other events, sometimes it Takes up to six minutes for me to get it from, from the actual launch
time, which doesn't give me a whole lot of faith that I can effectively communicate with Our citizens in time sensitive messages.
so this is definitely a plus. When you switch over, we switch over to this new system.
will it require re signing up? I mean, what will there be any onus of responsibility on citizens to input number?
how do we get that? I mean, is it going to be a smooth transition or how is that going to Work. Yes, we actually have a meeting with civic ready tomorrow to strategize the the Transition process.
but to answer your question, yes, there will be a need for citizens to, to sign up.
now, we will get a lot of, of quote unquote free data from civic ready.
same thing that code red did for us is they took they bought a bunch of white page data And they will upload that for us, but individual citizens will likely have to, sign up on
their own. And there's going to be a full civic or community engagement piece to our Transition plan that will inform our citizens of of the transition
and what they need to do to get signed up. It's a really good opportunity to really start fresh and, and reengage, the community With regard to this.
on that note, can I just ask one more question in this new company?
are there I mean, you said there's a saving cost savings, which is great, but are there Any new enhancements or are we getting any new benefits from the switch over to a new
company versus the company we were with? We are, as a matter of fact, some of these are pretty profound.
for example, the the extensive language options right now, code red gives us english, When when residents sign up for the new
system, they have the opportunity to sign up for 60 written languages and 25 voice Languages.
so typically when we send a message out, we send a text message, an email and a phone Call, typically, if if all they want is text messages and in an
email, they can get those messages in their native tongue as long as they're one of the 60 languages that they offer.
if they want a voicemail as their notification option, then they have 25.
but I'm still very confident that we're going to hit the overwhelming majority of Languages that are spoken within grapevine.
wow. That's a big improvement. It is a big improvement. Another improvement is that, we'll have the ability to conduct polls.
some of you may be aware that we have a legislative requirement during certain Emergencies to reach out to folks that have registered on our state of texas emergency
assistance registry. For example, on tuesday, I called all of our assisted living facilities just to make sure Everything was good.
the intention of this requirement is to send an initial poll out to everybody that Registers, and then they can they can say yes or no, whether they need
assistance, and we can follow up based on their responses.
this will give us the ability to do that where we don't have it currently. Another thing is one local phone call or phone number.
right now, what we have available to us is an emergency number and a non-emergency Number.
and those are 866 numbers. And with everybody getting inundated with spam calls, the fear is that a lot of our folks That get these messages are disregarding them because they think they're spam.
so having one phone number that a resident, when they sign up can save as a contact, they Will know it's a message from from grapevine, and they'll they're more likely to pay
attention to it. Integrations with social media and other. Other notification platforms, we can configure the system to put a message out on the City's facebook
pages, x, and I believe instagram, but I'm not I'm not positive, but there's a lot of Integration there to include the ability to put
pop ups or banners on the website, on our city's website, the overall goal for for Emergency communication, just for the grapevine website to be the
trusted source of information for our folks so they can go to the city's website and find Out the details for the for the incident.
and it happens to me all the time. I might go to the city's website for a business related reason, but I also always end up Finding out something else.
so people will come to the website to find out about an emergency or a notice, and then They'll end up getting more information related to the city as intended.
obviously, finances are important part of our fiduciary responsibility to to save Taxpayer money.
we are looking at the potential to save a considerable amount of money. First and foremost, no permanent charges.
right now, our current provider for non-emergency communications gives us a limit of of, Of non-emergency charges.
we can we can make emergency phone calls all as long as we want, but non-emergency things Like fireworks, stuff like that.
we have a limit before we have to start paying per minute. Civic ready does not charge, which gives us a lot of freedom where we can weigh the need To inform our folks versus over informing them.
we can weigh those without having to also have the other variable of, can we afford to Use these minutes on this?
the cost savings year one, $13,000 over what we were invoiced for fy 22 or fy 24 for this Year.
civic ready is going to give us the first year at a $13,000 savings.
year two would end up being $7,000 both of those years combined, basically equal to a Savings of almost one year of our current vendor.
what they charge us per year. It's the industry standard to increase prices every five years.
we'll budget for that accordingly. But even so, we will they will remain less expensive than our current vendor.
and of course, since since civic or civic plus is our current vendor for website hosting, There is a proposal in the works to do some mobile application.
this price is contingent upon bundling all those things together and being a client on Multiple,
avenues. And with that, I would, make myself available for any, any questions?
you might have questions. Good stuff. All looks good.
thank you. Thank you so much. Madam chairman, you have the recommendations of the planning zoning commission.
item 38. We planning and zoning commission recommend approval of am 23-02 electric vehicle Charging stations 7-0.
consideration is in order. I'll move for approval.
[inaudible] did we get a second? Yes. Leon. Yes. Can I can may I ask a question?
may I ask a question, please? Was there any discussion about the suggestion to separate the types of charging stations Out, or is it you just approved it with everything lumped
in? We left it as it was because we really didn't have any discussion about it.
but the [inaudible] had in the beginning had said keep it all together so.
I do, I mean, I'm fine with approving it, but I do think we should do a little bit of Investigation relative to the car dealerships
or the I don't know the words to call it, but I think it's worthwhile to at least Investigate that because I think he made a good point.
unfortunately, these things are showing up everywhere and they're unattractive, and They're taking parking spaces that are allocated for regular businesses.
so I have no problem approving it. But I do think that doing a little further research on that, particularly since they're At a disadvantage relative to airport car dealerships.
however, if it if it. If we're comfortable that it should go through the proper the proper conditional use and All that.
I'm fine with that. I'm just saying I think we ought to at least look at it.
yeah, I agree, because it sounds like there's a considerable difference in the types of Facilities that are available.
so I think it does warrant some further discussion. I'm more like in the different the levels that he was referring to, you know?
yeah, I just don't understand it. Drawing a much higher voltage than others, but for now, I'm fine with us going ahead and Approving that.
they have to go through the process. We have a motion and a second.
yes, sir. No. I mean, while there's there's two issues that were brought up there, I just want to Make sure, matthew, that that we're clear about that regardless of the
zoning category that a car dealership is in, that's in our city. They'll have to go through a conditional use process to expand ev charging stations.
is that correct? Under this ordinance. They will either not be permitted or they will be permitted only subject to a conditional Use permit.
so I think that's we have to make that clear.
so there's that. The the other question, though, about the different levels of charging stations, and, you Know, some are lower intensity, some are higher intensity.
obviously, we'll go through and do the research with the fire department and get back to You all on that.
but our recommendation is that you approve the ordinance. Of course. All right. We do have a motion. And a second, any further discussion?
not all in favor. All opposed. Motion carries.
item 39. The planning and zoning commission recommended approval with a vote of 7-0 of am 23-08 Short term rentals.
I'll move for approval. Second. All in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.
item 40. The planning and zoning commission recommended approval of cu 23-36 old hickory at the Gaylord texan.
consideration is in order. I'll move for approval. Second, any discussion?
if not all in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.
item 41. The planning and zoning commission recommended approval with 7-0 vote of cu 23-37 great Wolf lodge.
move for approval. Second. Any discussion? If not all in favor?
all opposed. Motion carries. Item 42.
planning zoning commission recommended approval with a vote of 7-0 of hl 23-03 22 blevins Street
for approval second. Any discussion. If not all in favor?
all opposed. Motion carries. Item 43. The planning and zoning commission recommend approval with a vote of 7-0 of tdo 23-03 Grapevine brownstones phase two.
I'll move for approval. I have a question, please. Was there any discussion about the proposal to leave the zoning as light industrial?
did you all discuss that at all? No, because we didn't think we had a a vehicle to do that
tonight. Okay. I mean, there was no discussion about it.
okay. All right. We have a motion. Did we get a second?
yes, sir. All right. Any further discussion? If not all in favor? All opposed?
motion carries on 43. 44. The planning and zoning commission recommend approval with a vote 7-0 of the final Plat of lot two, block one, hasten addition.
I move that the city council approve the statement of findings in the final plat of lot Two, block one, hasten addition.
second. All in favor? All opposed.
all abstained. Motion carries. That completes the recommendations.
planning zoning commission. Thank you very much. We will return to item 12 city council to conduct a public hearing relative to the Adoption of the youth
program standard of care. That public hearing is open.
chris smith as a presentation on 12 and 13.
honorable mayor and members of the city council tonight.
you have before you the parks and recreation department's annual request to consider Amending the code of ordinances.
chapter 16 parks and recreation, section 16-19, by adopting the youth standards of care.
these standards must be reviewed annually and brought to the city council for approval f Ollowing a public hearing to pass an ordinance regarding regarding section 42.0
41b 14 of the texas human resources code.
our standards relate specifically to day camps offered for ages 5 to 13 at various Facilities that the parks and recreation department manages,
and includes other parks and recreation partners such as the library, vast, and golf.
patrons receive a copy of the approved standards upon registration for any of the day Camps we provide parks and recreation, and all partners meet or exceed all of
the requirements as specified in the youth program standards of care.
the staff training programs hosted for camp counselors provide the needed information to Assist us in meeting all of the criteria and all of the standards.
there were no major changes made to the document that was approved by city council in January of 2023.
this will be the ninth consecutive year of this to be brought to city council for your Consideration and approval.
if approved, a copy of the updated standards will be submitted and properly filed, and I'm happy to answer any questions you may
have. [inaudible] no questions.
all right. Thank you chris. Thank you. Do we have anyone wishing to speak?
no, sir. Any correspondence? No, sir. Motion to close the public hearing is in order.
so moved. Move to close. Second. All in favor?
all opposed. Public hearing is closed. Consideration of ordinance number 2024-01 amending the code of ordinances, chapter 16 Parks and recreation section 16 through
19 adopting the youth program standards of care is in order.
I will move for approval. Second discussion. If not all in favor?
aye. Motion carries.
14, 15, and 16 are companions.
matt ferrin is going to make a presentation on all three items at the same time.
then we'll take them up individually. Yes. Good evening, your honor.
and members of the city council. Matt ferrin, assistant finance director, here to present and seeking consideration for Items 14, 15 and 16, which are all related
and a part of a much broader strategy to utilize funds from our tif zones, to fully fund Gcisd's sro
program. We have been engaged for a number of weeks with an economic development firm, Pettit economic development item 14 will be a professional
services agreement that continues that relationship to complete this project.
in working with that firm, we've been made aware of different elements of chapter 311 of The state tax code that does allow the payment
of operating expenses at tif project facilities.
currently in our two tifs we in each of them, we have gcisd facilities that have been Funded through tif funds.
tif one the grapevine mills tif then later expanded to include the 185 funds from that Tif were utilized to fund mustang panther stadium as a joint use
facility between us and the school district. Tif two the gaylord tif includes grapevine middle school.
the funds from that tif are used to pay the debt service for that facility, and we Continue to do that.
so in this proposal that we're presenting, we would then utilize the tif funds to pay Operating expenses at those
facilities, therefore freeing up dollars in the gcisd's budget to be repurposed for sros For schools throughout the district.
this is a strategy that uses utilizes gcisd money.
the money in the tif currently is money contributed from their property tax rate that has To be used for school district expenses and working
with the executive team for gcisd this is what they would like to use those funds for.
current financial projections. We think we could fund sros to 2031.
and with conservative financial projections.
kind of taking a step back if you look on the left hand side, we've got a number of of Elements that we will be bringing to you to complete this process.
tonight is just the beginning item 15 and 16 are going to reorient the composition of the Tif boards right now, as they were written in the mid 90s the tif boards
include all taxing entities. So the city of grapevine, gcisd, tarrant county, tarrant county college, tarrant county Hospital district all in are written into the ordinance on
being on the boards. Well, the only participants in tif one right now are the city and the only participants In tif two are the city and gcisd.
so item 15 will both 15 and 16 will reorient and say that it's the city of grapevine and Any participating taxing entities
would be on those tif boards. Tif one would just be us, tif two would be us and gcisd.
I have a couple questions for you. Yeah. On the tif one gcisd is no longer a participant in that tif, correct?
correct. They are not contributing any new tax increment to that tif. Okay. And so these because I know we gave them some of the funds when they got out of the Tif.
so they're still funds remaining there. These will be funds that have been sitting there for a period of time that we'll be Using.
they won't be additional funds since they're not participating in the tif. Correct? Correct. That would be correct for tif one.
yes. That these are funds that have been sitting too because they're still in two. And then the only other question, and I know I cut you off before you had a chance to Finish, but I understand the desire to add more members so that you have representation of
these different bodies. What I'm confused with is both boards say up to 15, and I don't know why it says up to 15 Members of the board when all the increment, all the
added together only compose 9. So that's language from the tax code that mirrors what it is allowable.
we know that it's only going to be 4 council members plus the mayor, and then one Additional for every entity that's participating.
are you saying we can't change that? We we can.
it's just a thought. I mean, the fact that it allows 15 is a big board.
that's what mirrors the state statute. But we can consider changing that.
yes. So if my understanding this, this chapter 311 of the tax code, this change, is this The is this the state's way of trying
to help fund the sros? Because. No. So. We will not be paying directly for sros with the tif funds.
the funds from the tif will be paying operating expenses at those facilities.
so maintenance, upkeep, and the funds that were budgeted for those facilities could then Be repurposed by gcisd to fund sro separately.
so that's going to cover other operating costs, not correct. The funds from the tif
it is. It is a creative solution to to being to have gcisd be fully funding sros.
yes. Okay. So and I think that's a great idea. I'm just a little bit wasn't really prepared.
I mean that we were going to be kind of making these kind of changes and adding this many People to the board.
I'm a little bit confused why people are being added to the board that aren't officially Paying to the tif.
correct. We are correcting that. So the current the current structure says that all the entities are members, and we are Removing that and saying it's only the city and those that are participating.
okay, that's what the new structure will be. So who is participating other than the city and the school district?
no, we're talking about tif two? For so for tif one, it is just the city for tif two it is the city and just gcisd.
there are no other participants in our in our tifs. And how many members from gcisd?
it will be just a single member. Yes. Okay, so I know how much you I mean, you're getting a lot of questions.
I have some questions, but are you almost done? And then we'll ask questions or. Yeah, just wanted to do a quick overview of what we will be bringing to you in on coming Meetings.
so, as item 14 is reviewed and considered, if approved, we would continue the work with David pettit and his team to amend the project
finance plan. We would bring to you the selection from gcisd on on february 6th to confirm their Appointment to the tif two board.
then we would be creating a reimbursement agreement with the school district.
so the tif boards would then be going into an agreement with the school district to Outline all the elements of the cost, reimbursement, what facilities they include,
and how they would be repaid. We'd be bringing that to you in march in the first meeting, and then from there, on an Annual basis until at least 2031, we would have a process to reimburse those costs to the
school district, and they would be funding sros back to the city. Okay, so there's two questions I have going back on what darlene said in reference to the Board members.
so the board members that currently sit, liaisons, for example, on the park and rec board And grapevine has to be one of the trustees at
grapevine-colleyville that is a resident of grapevine. The tif board has a resident of colleyville on that board.
is that something that we can tell the school district? We need to have a representative from the grapevine city, or who determines that?
the tax the state. Chapter 311 requires that the member of the tif board be a resident of The county or an adjacent county.
so that's the requirement. So it's tarrant county, so correct? Yes. And so, that that's what
is there any flexibility in that, though, to leon's point, do we have flexibility or are We having to follow.
can I just cut to that says I just answer that question tonight. This afternoon the school board met and and appointed mary humphrey to be the the gcisd Representative on tif number two.
so you're going to have a
right. But and I don't mean to but that's old stuff. And really what you have on tif one it is it's old language.
going back to when the tifs were originally created. Basically on tif one, you have five members of that tif board that are city council Members.
on tif number two, you will have five members of the city council that will be the board For tif number two plus the one gcisd representative who they named
today, who would be mary humphrey. Again, just to sort of amplify what matt has said, the whole strategy here is that there Is about a million and a half left in tif number one that
is solely the school district's funds. Those funds will be used for sro.
we have an excess reserve amount, that is also, gcisd funds in tif number two.
and so the idea is that they will pay operating expenses on eligible school facilities, And that will free up funds in their budget
that subsequent in subsequent years through 2031 and honestly, maybe beyond that, we'll Have the ability for them to fully pay
100% for the sro program through existing tax increment finance funds.
okay, so I understand that, but the question is, is that tif money, instead of grapevine It's going to colleyville school district.
is that money going to stay in grapevine because it's grapevine, colleyville and euless As well.
so that grapevine, the answer unequivocally is yes because the
yes. Well, the school district no. The question is, is the money in grapevine staying in grapevine is are we paying for Euless police officer or colleyville police officer?
again, I if you don't mind, let me just reserve an answer on that until we get further in The process.
well, I think we have to remember that grapevine-colleyville independent school district Participated in this tif as a whole.
I understand your point. That is a valid one, but the entire district taxes that would have gone to the district Were allocated for the tif.
so I
well and that's what I'm asking. But when you say [inaudible] you're saying you're saying the police officers, right?
or the sros [inaudible] all I'm asking is, is the money coming from the tif out of Grapevine.
is it paying for grapevine officers, or is colleyville paying for colleyville? [inaudible] let me answer the question, if you would I again, what we're paying for are Operating expenses at facilities that are in grapevine g.
the school district is paying for sros. So it's just going into the general fund and then use that however how they want it.
absolutely. Which is different than what is being presented. [inaudible] oh no, no, oh no.
I think it's critical that you all understand that there are eligible expenses for a tax Increment finance district.
they have to do with facilities that are located in grapevine. The. So going forward, the tif funds that are fully gcisds, tif funds will pay a like Amount of those operating expenses at the
stadium and at grapevine middle school. And then the freed up funds in gcisd's budget will be what will pay for the sros through The
2031 time period. It sounds like the city has found a way to help the school district funding these sros, Which the city now is paying for.
question, I guess is and I guess what I'm hearing is, do we really care or is it our Issue?
but it is because we're paying tax to the school district. But the question is, is if you've got you're so we're paying for it now.
so now you're saying okay, we have this extra money in the tif which originally was set Up for infrastructure.
right. And so then it changed a little bit. So the tifs are still going to be supporting the infrastructure of the school district.
but you're moving some over to sros, but it's going into the general fund for them to Use if they want.
but my question is, is that that tif was really for infrastructure.
it went for grapevine middle school, it went for the stadium, it went for other things Besides that, besides the stadium as well, which was all infrastructure.
so now it's being kind of helped to support this sro mandate that came from the state That the school district is trying to figure out how to fund.
is this a band aid? Or you said till 3033 and or 2033 is I mean, are they working to try to figure this out?
because ultimately it would be ideal to use those funds for what they originally were For.
it's an alternative where the school is paying for this, for the resource offices out of Money, out of the tif, rather
than we paying it out of the general fund. Right? Right. It's their money. So and them using their own operating money, this is a help to them and to us.
the staff's been very creative to come up with that suggestion. Well I think our city's done a great job working with them to come up with solutions to a Challenge mandate.
but I'm just hoping that, you know, once again, this goes to 2033 and then you're still Going to have the same problem.
are they working to try to figure this thing out within their own budget, as opposed to Relying on the support of the city?
that's all I'm asking. I understood you have to ask them that question. Yeah. I don't know that.
mr. I was going to say brad snouts but that's not correct.
I don't know that our staff knows if they're working on it or not. I've talked to some of the school board members because the hole that they're in has been Going on.
it's been coming a long time because they didn't have a rainy day fund. They didn't plan for that. So it didn't it hadn't just cropped up this year.
it's been coming on a long time. Hopefully they will they will budget funds so that they don't have this kind of a problem Again.
but I think that question and maybe bruno can talk to dr. Snouts about it and find out for sure if they're if they're managing the money, the ones That we have there now to do better than a better job than has been done in the past.
but I think this change in the tax code is a good thing, because it helps the schools and It helps the cities from having that burden.
so that's school's responsibility to manage their money. Yeah. This takes care of the immediate need to relieve our general fund of considerable Amount of money, and we ought to support it.
all right. We. We have any further questions?
all right. Consideration, then, of a couple of ordinances. Item 14.
consider. I'm sorry. Wait a minute. First, we've got to consider the professional service contract.
the update and amend tax increment financing zone number one, tax increment financing Number two.
and project financial plans with david petty economic development.
a motion is in order to do that. I'll move for approval. Second. Any discussion?
if not, can I ask a question? Can I ask a question, mayor? Just real quick, matt. I'm sorry.
I don't really understand exactly what they're going to be doing. Could you just explain that?
it's already done. In general terms, what this consultant is actually going to do for us.
so the current structure of the documents don't allow for the operating expenses to be an Eligible cost.
so they will be rewriting the founding ordinance for both tifs to include the new cost And eligibility of those project facilities.
and it would be also creating the reimbursement resolutions, working with us and Coordinating with gcisd to develop that.
it does not exist right now. And making it, preparing it for approval.
all of these elements have to be approved sometimes at three different boards.
so gcisd would have to approve that reimbursement resolution. Both tif boards would have to approve that reimbursement agreement and then city council.
so all the prep work behind that to prepare those documents.
and then the ongoing support to track the cost associated with that.
that's fine. And, and the entire funds that we're providing for this is $22,500
yes. Thank you. I'm fine now, mayor. I just needed to understand that we have a motion and a second.
all in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.
consideration of ordinance number 2024-002 to amend the composition and powers of the Board of directors for the tax increment finance reinvestment zone
number one. I will move for approval.
second. May I ask one question? Quick question, mayor. So these next two ordinances, the we're recommending these changes Will be what this consultant will take
and rewrite things. Is that correct? Yes. So they will make the new documents match what this ordinance is outlining.
just my opinion
yeah, it is just the language of the of the statute. We we will have five members from grapevine city council, on tif one and five members on Tiff two with one gcisd member.
can we add that to this document? It's in there. It's in there. Thank you.
I think he's got the message. Any other discussion or questions? Not all in favor.
all opposed. Motion carries. Consideration of ordinance number 2024-003.
and do we need to confirm mary humphreys as a school if you would. All right as far as that motion needs to include that confirmation.
I move for approval of the ordinance and with the validation that mary humphrey be the Gcisd representative on this.
all right. Second, any questions? Any debate? All in favor?
all opposed. Motion carries.
that brings us to contract for the construction of the 2019 inflow and infiltration Project with douglas
dailey construction. [inaudible] best for last.
not quite. We still have. This is going to be simple.
thank you honorable mayor and city council members. Item number 17 on your agenda tonight is to authorize a construction contract with Douglas dailey construction for one of our inflow and infiltration projects.
this project was identified in our sanitary sewer overflow initiative, which is mandated By the tcq.
the purpose is to replace sanitary sewer lines that allow rain or groundwater to enter The sewer mains.
this places a significant burden on our lift stations and the treatment plant. You can see examples on your screen of the inflows here.
the next image shows the locations of the proposed project. The first project is replacing the 15 inch sanitary sewer that runs along [inaudible] Lane, constructed in the early 1970s.
the new alignment will be further up the hill away from the lake, which will help with Future issues of inflow and allows for better access to the line when the lake is up.
the next project is in the area referred to as the northeast outfall.
this includes the shore crest acres subdivision and some adjacent homes.
these lines also date back to the 1970s. As noted in the memo, the existing sewer lines are 50 years old and vitrified clay pipe That is not really held up very well in our soils.
we don't use those pipes anymore. While we were disappointed to have only one bidder, staff finds the pricing to be Acceptable and we recommend we move forward.
with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have. Any questions?
you really want questions or you just want to go home? Home. I'll move for approval of the ordinance.
second. All in favor? All opposed. Motion carries.
so the consent agenda item 18 through 37 are not scheduled for any council debate.
any guests can request any item be removed for further debate at this time.
we have any request?
then item 18 through 37 [inaudible] motion is in order.
move for the approval of consent agenda items 18 through 37.
second. Any discussion, if not all in favor? All opposed? Motion carries.
the consent is approved. I believe that completes the agenda.
so a motion to adjourn is in order. Move to adjourn.
second. All opposed? Motion carries.
council stands adjourned.