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let's see what we do here goes up on the
screen now

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foreign

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actually

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I have three o'clock
a call to order the uh the special call

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meeting
which is a request

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of three board members

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um
today Thursday December the 1st

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okay
for the purpose of discussion of real

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estate tax
trash days

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um

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Mr Smith would you like to leave us a
notification okay

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thank you

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stating that they serve to our citizens
of Grayson County Branch should be worth

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it today in this special colony
thank you

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pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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Republic for which he stands one nation
for under God indivisible with liberty

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and it's uh we'll go to the approval
agenda and consent agenda

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contrary entertain a motion to accept
the gymnastics

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okay
on the players

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to discuss for deferring penalties and
interest for non-payment of real estate

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taxes and trash fees

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yes uh Mr chairman a uh
emergency ordinance has been prepared

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the direction of our Academy attorney
and the board members has that for

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reviews and generation and
so

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it's like that

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on the item and then the importance of
it it would need to be ready

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that way at this time of consideration
thank you okay

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an ordinance to establish a different
accrual date for penalty and interest on

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the 2022 real estate real property taxes
and it's always ways to be due on

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December the 5th 2022 whereas the Board
of Supervisors of Grayson County

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Virginia and board recognizes the
hardships imposed on the citizens of the

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county as a result of the lingering
effects of covid-19

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pandemic supply chain disruptions and
high level of inflation and wishes to

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provide relief to citizens who may have
been negatively impacted by the current

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economic climate pan whereas the board
wishes to provide relief to Citizens by

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providing an ordinance with the
authority provided under the Virginia

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code 51

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58.1-3916 penalty and interest will not
begin to accrue on any unpaid real

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property taxes for the tax year 2022
unless such taxes are unpaid as of

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February 1 2023 and whereas the board
recognizes that relate from penalty and

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interest in the current extraordinary
circumstances should not function to

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reward delinquencies from private year
to Prior years and therefore intends

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that can delayed accrual a penalty and
interest provided by this ordinance will

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only be effective for tax year 2022 and
whereas the Board of Supervisors desires

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to provide additional relief to the
public by extending the employee make

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profanity and renters for late payment
of the County's solid waste collection

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and Disposal fee which is collected
along with one of the taxes

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whereas the board wishes to adopt this
measure as an emergency ordinance to

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15.2-41427 F of the code of Virginia
1950 as amended in order to put the

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contemplated relief into effect prior to
the previously established tax due date

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ordained by the Board of Supervisors of
Grayson County Virginia

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penalty and interest for real property
taxes for tax year 2022 as such funds

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and rates are otherwise established by
the ordinance or other measures here too

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for adopted shall accrue for the tax
year 2022 only on amounts remaining

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unpaid as of February 1 20 23. any real
property taxes paid for tax year 2022

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prior to February 1 2023 which I'll
incur no penalty and interest and be a

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further ordained at the penalty penalty
and interest for the county solid waste

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collection and Disposal fees as such fee
is established by the ordinance here 2-4

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adopted shall accrue for the year 2022
only

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on the mounts remaining unpaid hours off
February 1 20 23. any solid waste

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collection and Disposal fees due on
December the 5th 2022 but paid but I

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think we were in the first 2023 shout
incur no penalty and interest

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we have further ordained that your
relief provided herein shall apply only

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to real property taxes and the solid
waste collection disposal fees for the

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year 2022.
and no relief provided here under shall

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apply to the unpaid amounts from
priorities

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coins of tax years
and delinquent amounts for any other

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year shall continue to accrue penalty
and interest without abatement of any

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kind and be it further ordained that
this ordinance is adopted as an

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emergency measure this first day of
December 2022 pursuant to

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15.2-1427f as the code of Virginia 1950
has amended and shall be affected for a

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period of 60 days Hereafter unless
repeal amended or re-adopted and conform

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doing what the provisions of such
section his ordinance shall be I think

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immediately adopted by the fallen and
recorded folks this first day of

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December 2022.

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passing ordinance has read

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a motion in a second
and opens the board for discussion

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do you want to wish to speak and just
find like this thank you guys for

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chilling up and listening and now I'm
running your phones after that we've

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exchanged emails and I truly appreciate
the efforts you guys have put in and the

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time you took out to hear the folks and
listen to me dick or any event so I do

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appreciate it

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stupid

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initially

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I did not
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all right so you got I've had zero phone
calls and just one two three y'all

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well what
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really end the resolution
fact that some people that didn't get

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the tax tickets could Tuesday
and I don't really have it

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to me
this makes sense just from the timing of

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your tax tickets everybody knows they're
taxing to do I think

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we did a lot of stuff back in July to
help ease the tax burden as much as we

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for me it's common with that stick
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yeah I guess probably that coach would
supervisor Riley said you know we

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there's two issues to play I think any
time we talk about taxes and that's

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that's great
the third tax rate is what we pay tax

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burden is can we pay
and the tax rate you know we adjusted

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that I think uh pretty effectively for
based on ultimately Services you know

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the services that

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provide

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and in this particular case you know the
real estate assessment was adjusted

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based on the changes in real estate
and also because of the personal

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property challenges specifically with
the used cars in that particular case

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you know we uh the used cars that don't
don't up in value which was pretty

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unprecedented
at St John the state

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legislature passed in ordinance that or
less reason that we had really taken

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into consideration so I think we do that
some of the effects of that though is

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the deferment of delay of payment of the
personal property

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potentially impacted unintentionally or
unknowingly

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uh the ability for people to pay this
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and so uh that to me kind of played into
it

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but at the end of the day I wasn't in
favor of moving the day or even in

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deferring anything initially because it
begins to then push it into

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the personal property payment again in
June and so we just got a you know

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predictability brings a little bit of

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stress relief and and good governance
you know and being and being a taxes

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have been doing Grayson County probably
forever in December so that was kind of

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where I was at but
after speaking with uh supervisor

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Anderson several times and also the
supervisor Isaac I mean we've all spoke

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I think where it came down to me and
again personal example is we got our

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family got our tax tickets Friday last
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and uh
and then I got a call the first call

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that I've gotten on this issue
uh was today's waiting for this Boardman

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meeting that the person who moved
uh they submitted the change of address

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that didn't take in the system
and their tax didn't get ticketed up to

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him late
and then they sent a certified check or

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certified letter with the check in it he
got returned so

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when I came came to realize is that the
issues that we had with it back in

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October which affected more than just
the Commission of Revenue and the

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treasury also affected our registrar's
office and the judge everybody

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that probably had as big of affect if
anything on tax tickets getting out and

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being available for folks to be able to
and plan ahead and so with that

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recognition similar to what supervisor
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it just kind of made sense at this point
if there was

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to no fault of any citizens
whether it was

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uh
statutorily on time

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if if there was something that the
county

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had something happen that no fault
necessarily anybody per se but it just

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things just didn't happen that delayed
the arrival of those tax tickets and it

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kind of made sense in this particular
case

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so that's kind of why I came around to
the idea of deferring interest in and uh

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and penalties until the end of January
thanks Mr chair

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s
all this was first brought up we worked

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on like 90 days which we're putting back
up into personal property February first

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is not a big deal I don't think uh you
can help somebody

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I just didn't want to enable
people to let things build up because

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that's common nature and let things
build up and then it would be

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subject for another disaster
we did that Through the Fire Company

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north and wind up with great big deals
in Bayonne and guess what I got the fire

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cut off his films I don't want to enable
people for disaster uh February 1st I'm

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fine with
I would like to talk about sometime

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maybe
and I talked to Mr long about it is

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getting the tax tickets out say in
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so they got plenty of time everybody
knows it's coming

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maybe if I got the bills in my hand in
October and then I have the December the

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5th and don't put the burden on the
treasurer's office

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work together make this thing work
the thing that we don't care about the

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citizens that's what we're in here to do
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some people say that ain't what we're
doing but we are

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uh I'm agreeable with February first I
don't think another month is gonna

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miraculous uh hopefully everybody worked
together like the same world

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of
I'm probably not a self speaker

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fellow board members so I had right now
and I I want to talk so I wanted to

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to get out
I was elected to the board to represent

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the citizens of the Providence District
that's what I want to do

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I'm always interested in ensuring that I
support good services and programs for

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our citizens
while trying to be a good Steward I'm

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there in my own tax dollars
most of all treating everyone fairly

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whatever station of Life they're in
and these harder hard Economic Times

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that we're all enduring so I want to
speak to this issue

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but first lifelong resident of Grayson
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as far as I can remember
taxes have been due on December the 5th

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real estate Landings were set in June
which were lowered published in the

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papers
tax tickets were mailed out according to

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Virginia code at least 14 days in
advance actually 18 days according to

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staff

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May certain in a workshop meeting we as
a board approved the commissioner of

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revenues
30 votes recommendations to provide

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further relief
to our Elder and disabled citizens of 65

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and older
by increasing the eligibility levels for

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someone with income less than thirty
thousand dollars

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and net worth of less than a hundred
thousand dollars giving them a 300 tax

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credit
relief

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uh
we returned or cut personal property by

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28 on average to our citizens and move
dates back to September

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but today today's December the 1st
Monday is a deadline December the 5th

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a quick check with the treasurer's
office just yesterday they took in

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around a million dollars
in tax revenues

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and about half the citizens have paid my
question

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what about them
what can we do for them at this point

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it's sincere from the heart question why

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uh what if they struggled and make the
difficult choice to pay taxes and forego

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another need such as ball powers
on vehicle medication or power pay the

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power bills
if this was an issue that should have

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been addressed why Monday a week ago
why not two months ago why not a month

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ago
could have supported it

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I have not received first call from my
district regarding a request for that

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tax relief in fact I received a call
from a citizen to state

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that is not needed and this is a blue
collar worker every day

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citizen
I did receive one message text uh

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messenger text on Facebook
wanted to know if I supported this for

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the elderly which we did in May
I made trips to the usual gathering

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places in my district last few days
not one person has pushed for support

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for mentioned it

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so I don't know the urgency on it

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my point is
we

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are denying at least half our citizenry
this privilege

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okay
and you say well they probably had the

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money and because that's why they pay
you taxes

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I've paid my taxes because
before work

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because I knew it was due and I had to
get it done and so I went ahead and

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spent the money and I think that's a
mindset of a lot of people

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okay our county has proven to be very
lenient on delinquent taxes

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it takes three years before action is
taken

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and one it's the process it started
it can extend for months if not years

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now going back to getting calls from
citizens

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I think I've got a call about a half
hour before I left come up here

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and uh
it was from a young man who has a young

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family in my district
and he's trying to run a business

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and he's trying to be a cattle farmer
and he said he's not going to be able to

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make the deadlines
so I know there is people they do have

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issues
but I asked my fellow board members

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what can we do for these people that
you've already already paid your taxes

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and didn't uh diligent in doing this and
is it fair I put that question to you

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I have to say
any other discussion before we take a

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real combo just to answer you a question
about fairness I don't think this was a

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fairness issue I think this was an issue
to to help folks who may be in need

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and understanding that a lot of the
taxes have been collected and there's

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going to be probably by December 5th a
lot more

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collected so we may be talking about
45 of the taxpayers or 15 of their

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taxpayers but if those are citizens in
need and they are taxpayers and they're

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hard-working taxpayers
I've not met one individual in the

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county that's already paid their taxes
that has an issue with someone else

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getting some help or an extension as far
as the dependencies and interests times

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that would be my response to that we do
a lot of things we spend a lot of money

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in here that doesn't always
cover

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every citizen of every area of the
county

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um
so the issue of fairness because I know

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that that that was the initial pushback
that that I got when I raised this issue

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and you know we just approved from what
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sixty thousand dollars for an x-ray
machine

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for freeze
um to my knowledge the Grant Community

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don't have an x-ray machine
exactly

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so there's a lot of you know the
fairness debate I don't think is what

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this is about I think it's about helping
folks times are tough and that's what

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this is about as far as the 90 days
which I was pushing originally my

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thoughts on that were I did get feedback
and even from people in your District

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that said if you give them 90 days that
takes them to getting back income tax

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returns for a lot of people and that
might lighten the load so that was the

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initial push I think 60 days is is a
good good marker and I you know agree

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with agreed with that I will agree with
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and uh that's that's where I am with it
and I do appreciate everybody coming out

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having the discussion and
and addressing the issue okay that's all

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I have understood and I might speak to
unless someone else has something I

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might just picked up a couple of points
so I didn't put the X-ray machine was

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approved I wasn't aware of that and that
is good news for my district but it's

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easy
okay

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okay
and and to another point

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you know not everybody benefits by
certain programs and uh

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services that came out but there is one
common denominator among all those

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citizens they pay taxes
all right

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so uh can you further discussion
okay picosis is a resolution there will

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be a road call vote

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uh

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yes Mr fan yes Mr Ivy yes
the church thanks

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any further business
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five or six five percent

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oh
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you know