1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,120 I don't know about that clock. We're not wastisible 2 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,920 with liberty and justice for all. 3 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:35,320 Uh, roll call, please. >> Mayor Mont 4 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,320 » here. 5 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,040 » Mr. Mling >> here. 6 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,200 » Mr. Bryer >> here. 7 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:47,559 » Mrs. Summers >> here. Mr. B. 8 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,199 Uh, Mrs. Howard >> here. 9 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,480 » Mr. Caldwell >> present. 10 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:01,480 and Alderman Brock here. Do you have a port 11 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:15,200 uh reading of the minutes from last 12 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:18,320 meeting? I >> got it. 13 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:21,920 » Yeah, we don't. >> Oh, okay. So, 14 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:26,159 » there they were not in your packing. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No. Oh, I 15 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,320 apologize. I should have been in there. I remember 16 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,360 » at the last minute. >> Oh, 17 00:01:40,216 --> 00:01:42,236 [laughter] 18 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:57,799 » anyway, I guess we'll kind of table that until 19 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,799 We have a chance. 20 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,520 » Is there anybody? [snorts] 21 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,280 » Have you signed in? >> No, 22 00:02:08,399 --> 00:02:12,280 » please sign. >> Okay. 23 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,480 » All right. Um, there's no comments. Any reports? 24 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:27,520 » No report. Okay. Well, then we'll go to new business. And 25 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:32,560 uh the first one and only one is the 26 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:41,280 amendment to the text of the zoning code section 405.337 27 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:44,920 A2 C relating to hours of operation of marijuana dispensers. 28 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:58,800 um just introduce myself and um Paul Rockers. I am the director of compliance 29 00:02:54,959 --> 00:03:04,080 for the code store that is here in uh in your town. Um with me is Lucas Touché. 30 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:10,400 He is one of our other directors of compliance. Um we're here today this 31 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:13,680 evening to uh just request um an extension of the hours [clears throat] 32 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:18,800 of operation that you currently have in your ordinances to allow us to be able 33 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:23,120 to maintain the same level of of service that we've provided to our customers at 34 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:27,200 the current location. Um the hours of operation we have there are from 9:00 35 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:34,080 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday and 9:00 a.m. to 8:00 pm on 36 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:38,159 Sundays. And so, you know, in order to maintain that service that we've been 37 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:43,200 providing [clears throat] at times and availability for customers to come to 38 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:48,239 the location, we would like to be able to offer that same those same hours of 39 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:53,040 operation. Um, the other thing that we looked at was within a 5 mile radius. 40 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:58,560 The other dispensaries that are in the area, I think three of the five have 41 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:03,200 hours of operation until 10 p.m. as well. And so we just want to maintain a 42 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:07,760 competitive, you know, competitive and not lose, you know, competitive 43 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:13,200 advantage or disadvantage um by having to lower our hours and force our our 44 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:18,160 customers to potentially go other places at the hours that we won't be able to be 45 00:04:14,959 --> 00:04:21,519 open would uh interfere with when they would be able to purchase. So those are 46 00:04:21,347 --> 00:04:25,680 [clears throat] >> Have those hours change at your existing 47 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:27,120 facility since you presented this one to the new facility? 48 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:32,400 » No. >> No. 49 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:36,479 And the plan is to that um plan is we are going to be moving this Thursday 50 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:39,440 morning to the new location when we're playing. 51 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:43,759 » Jeremy, >> well uh the zoning code that you've 52 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:50,479 adopted, which is the marijuana dispensary code requires the hours of 53 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:57,600 operations left that you see uh Monday through Friday 9 to 9, 54 00:04:53,440 --> 00:05:02,800 Saturday, Sunday 9 to 6. So, as a result, the applicant would have to ask 55 00:05:00,479 --> 00:05:09,520 for a text amendment to your zoning code. So, basically, you're amending 56 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:16,919 your your your code. Okay. Um, tonight you're you're having discussion 57 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,919 for for a recommendation. 58 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:28,000 » All right. Anybody can >> I recommend we approve this. 59 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:33,360 I second. >> Motion. 60 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:37,280 » Motion's been made to approve it. Second >> and second it. All in favor say I. 61 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:41,759 » I. >> Opposed. 62 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:44,560 » So then you're recommending uh approved 63 00:05:43,919 --> 00:05:47,560 to the board of >> alderman. 64 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:50,880 We're recommend text amendments to the board of alderman. 65 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:56,800 » Correct. >> And then the board of alderman will 66 00:05:54,160 --> 00:06:00,400 » decide. Correct. At the board of alderman meeting which 67 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,479 is in two >> August 17th. 68 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,720 » August 17th. >> Yes. 69 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:11,199 » Let her know that >> they got recommended to approve to go to 70 00:06:09,039 --> 00:06:12,319 the board of alderman on August 17th. Okay. 71 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,360 » Excellent. >> Same room, same time. 72 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,440 » Perfect. >> Okay. 73 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:19,440 » Thank you all very much. >> Have a good evening. 74 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,639 » Thank you. >> I think that was a record. 75 00:06:25,799 --> 00:06:27,819 » [clears throat] 76 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:45,680 » So now we're done to unfinish business continuation 77 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:49,039 on a comprehensive plan. >> It's been a while since you guys have 78 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:53,440 looked at this plan. >> So it is a good idea for you guys to 79 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:58,000 look at it again. to determine if you would like any 80 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:04,520 changes, >> right? And I I submitted uh my changes 81 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:14,479 last month to >> Well, there would be a discussion right 82 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:23,039 now for all of you to uh recommend uh change. Does this go to boardment? 83 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:28,440 » The comp plan land is solely your product. 84 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,440 » Yeah, we don't have to. 85 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:35,280 » What you would do is, you know, once we got all any and all changes put 86 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:39,599 together, we would put a final updated draft together for you to approve by 87 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:45,919 resolution and then would send a copy to the board of alderman saying, just so 88 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:49,520 you know, here's the new complaint. Okay. 89 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:53,840 » I was going to ask Tracer, do we have a list of 90 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:58,440 recommended changes over the years that we kept 91 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,440 » or 92 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:06,479 due to the uh census kind of that kind of information? 93 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:10,879 » Yeah, that part I already had I got that information from East West Gateway and 94 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:14,800 so that part I've already updated. That's why it has the 2020 95 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:19,039 and beyond numbers. >> And the Have you updated the verbage 96 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:23,680 like you usually do? >> I didn't update I updated anything that 97 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:29,599 had to do with the demographics and that information, but I did not touch 98 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:33,680 anything else because that's up to you. >> Oh, I just I it seems like other times 99 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:36,320 we've had things where you said, "Hey, people aren't really seeing this 100 00:08:34,959 --> 00:08:39,839 anymore. Oh yeah. Well, 101 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:44,640 » yeah. It was really more like I highlighted that one section about, 102 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:48,959 you know, Lyn Fairy that's always been a discussion as to whether it's ever 103 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,360 really going to be that cute little >> destination 104 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,720 » destination where people have coffee shops and walk up and down or is it 105 00:08:52,880 --> 00:09:03,000 going to be people selling tires? It seems like all the shops or businesses 106 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,000 that are there, you have to get 107 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:12,640 special request for what to go against it. It's it's not like you can just walk 108 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:15,640 up and go in. There's a lot like that. So, 109 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:23,200 so you know, they can stay saying what it says or you can 110 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:26,240 recommend changing or whatever, but looks like 111 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:33,040 Gary's got a >> Yeah, I I know I had uh mentioned 112 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:39,040 something used as an example before u that I for our own neighborhood 113 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:45,040 place. We've always had that the stated goal was to open up place and drive and 114 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:51,040 I said, you know, the neighborhood's been there 29 years now, which is 115 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:54,240 stunning. And anytime this has ever come up, it's like, uh, well, Green Park 116 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:59,839 isn't going to flip the note for that. It's going to be developed. And 117 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:05,600 » and that's fine. I I could care less. >> But it seems like my point was going 118 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:11,440 through this, is that something that realistically should be part of the 119 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,640 vision? And is that what we're looking to do? 120 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:18,000 » Yeah. >> Kind of thing. it, you know, is has that 121 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:22,560 vision changed or is that still well, if money was no object and whatever then 122 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:29,200 and it wasn't completely straight up, >> right? Well, Derek just before the 123 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:31,040 distance and the the climate property, so you'd have 124 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:36,240 » Well, there's that, too. >> So, there's no public property. It's too 125 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:40,320 steep. You would have to connect to a private road that is in horrible 126 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:46,160 condition. And so so you would have a lot of issues 127 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:51,920 for educating public. >> The the issue isn't how can it be 128 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:55,920 afforded. The issue is is this something that we should keep on our radar that 129 00:10:53,839 --> 00:10:59,360 someday if we can figure this out we're going to do it. 130 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:03,279 » Yeah. I I I remember talking about the L ferry thing making fun of it saying you 131 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,240 know it's going to be this walkable destination like hell maybe we can put 132 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:10,800 in that we're going to have a gondola go across Lindberg to park too. Let's put 133 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,880 that in. Is it is it really something that 134 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,320 » you know >> that's a really good idea Dave. 135 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,959 » How about Well, let's put it in there, you know, but but 136 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,760 » take out the metro. >> So, I'm trying I guess I'm just trying 137 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:28,160 to get at are we is this really realistic or hey, that happens hasn't 138 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:32,160 happened for 29 years. Maybe the next quarter somebody get it to happen. 139 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:36,800 That's that's my point. The only one that's not realistic anymore is Lenveale 140 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:41,839 connection to Lindberg Business Court because of the development at the end of 141 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,360 Lyn Vale. >> Yeah. 142 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:49,440 » You can no longer make that connection. >> Yeah. It it seems to me that this should 143 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:56,079 be more of a document how we had the guy in here last month about who wanted to 144 00:11:52,000 --> 00:12:03,519 convert right that house to resident. I mean that that to me seems to be what 145 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:07,000 more the focus of this shoot more than a gondola across. 146 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:18,040 » Well, is it realistic to u uh include anything about the metro light rail 147 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,040 anymore? 148 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,920 » I I don't think so. >> I don't think they're talking about 149 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,040 metro. >> Yeah, that's his point. I mean, it's 150 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:29,839 Yeah. I mean, >> well, they killed it from St. Louis City 151 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:35,440 from north to south. It's going to be bust. So, I don't, you know, I don't 152 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,880 anticipate anything coming out here. >> Yeah. 153 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:44,160 It seems to me that since we adopted it the last time, we've we've used it 154 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:48,279 specifically two times. Uh, the used car place that wanted to move in where 155 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:57,279 » Yeah. Right. And we we literally adopted this the month before and said either it 156 00:12:55,839 --> 00:13:03,680 means something or it doesn't have a standalone use card and then also those 157 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:05,600 people on Lindber or Green Park that have the abandoned lot. 158 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,000 » Right. >> Right. With that and then 159 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:13,120 » he was going to he wanted it to be industrial. 160 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:17,600 » Right. Right. Right. You said yeah you're not there for six months or 161 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:23,094 whatever. Well, that's part of our code, but the code and plan sort of work 162 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,094 together. [clears throat] 163 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:38,800 » So, so far taking out 2.3.4 about the metro link. 164 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:42,079 » That's all that part I know for sure. The gondola I can't take out is 165 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:49,600 something. If you want to take out the part about uh the realigned Yuma drive, 166 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:52,480 we can certainly do that. >> 2.3. 167 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:57,600 » I literally was just saying that as an example of something that should that 168 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,839 meaningfully be in here after 29 years. That 169 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:04,399 » that's what I'm literally trying to figure out from the commission whether 170 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:08,234 anybody wants to keep that in there as an idea that should happen or 171 00:14:06,639 --> 00:14:11,120 » I would say we have not had a meaningful [clears throat] discussion of developing 172 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,320 that. in 29 years. 173 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,760 » That's why it still looks the way it does. 174 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:20,639 » Yeah. So, I would argue something like that should be the kind of thing we 175 00:14:19,199 --> 00:14:23,519 should, hey, should that still be in there? Is that 176 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,639 » I mean, if you meaningfully wanted to do that, what you'd have to do is kind of 177 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:31,680 change that zoning over there from residential 178 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:36,560 to some kind of a second tier commercial. 179 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:40,240 And then say you're going to allow commercial all the way down to the end 180 00:14:38,079 --> 00:14:43,440 of it. And then you might get a redevelopment. You might even get a Home 181 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:47,600 Depot. Who knows? >> But that's what led to this whole thing 182 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,480 being zoned residential in the first place. 183 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:54,880 » Well, Joe may remember this may remember this that I think there was some 184 00:14:52,480 --> 00:15:00,639 discussion initially that somebody might put in like almost like senior living 185 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,920 » that was back in 08. >> Right. 186 00:15:01,199 --> 00:15:07,920 » And that Yeah. Right. But it was still the case to them. It's like what benefit 187 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:13,600 to them would be to build out that road which 188 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:16,000 » right I mean >> asking to do it a gondola too. What the 189 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:21,680 hell? >> Well, that that actually would be better 190 00:15:17,839 --> 00:15:25,839 because that ravines. So that could >> Yeah. 191 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,639 » And I don't know if you've done >> why not. 192 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,440 » There's a very nice high wires up there that you could just hang the goas on. 193 00:15:30,765 --> 00:15:36,079 [laughter] >> I want a zipline, you No, that's how we 194 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:40,959 could go cheap. Yeah, just like this is our dream document. So, [laughter] 195 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:44,399 » dream or go. >> Good idea, Derek. Excellent. 196 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,920 » You know what? Uh, >> if you're going to make any destination, 197 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:54,160 you're going to need a hotel. >> When it snows, it's a good skill. 198 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:58,320 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 199 00:15:55,199 --> 00:16:01,360 » It could be the green park hidden. >> So, in terms of the process of this, 200 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:06,399 obviously Gary submitted something, but should we Should we take this home as 201 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:11,600 homework and then submit ideas? >> Oh, I thought that was that was what we 202 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:14,320 were doing the last several months. >> Yes. 203 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:16,480 » I still wanted to go home. >> That's what you started about a year 204 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,000 ago, >> right? October. It says on the doc 205 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:33,120 » my idea of zipline and it was not realistic. So don't bring that back, 206 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:37,360 please. >> But yeah, if you want to take these 207 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:41,279 notes and >> hear what Ann's notes were from her last 208 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,360 that she wanted to talk about last time that didn't get a chance, we can go 209 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:48,880 through that and then I I don't really expect that we'll finish if we were even 210 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:53,120 going to get it finished tonight. I just thought we could at least start getting 211 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,199 something that I could bring back next time that's a little closer to what you 212 00:16:54,800 --> 00:17:00,320 want. So So there I already know I could take out 213 00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:05,839 2.3.4. So that'll be a that'll save some paper 214 00:17:02,959 --> 00:17:11,160 there and any other time it mentions Metro 215 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:21,120 where it has there been discussions about 216 00:17:17,439 --> 00:17:25,319 what's everybody talking about the data center the data centers 217 00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:34,400 » we I mean we haven't had any talked about that and I I don't know how much 218 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:37,679 space is left in commerce center to for data center. 219 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:43,760 » No, you could, you know, at best it'd be one of the micro data centers that I 220 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:47,840 don't know how interesting interested they would be in the 221 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:53,679 » I already thought we had one down there because I always hear all the time. I 222 00:17:50,799 --> 00:17:59,679 swear it's coming down here somewhere. So, I always thought we had one. 223 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:03,360 » Yeah. I wonder maybe it's a What's that truck guy that's down there? 224 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,400 » Alcatra. >> Alcatraz. Maybe they got diesels running 225 00:18:05,679 --> 00:18:12,760 all the time >> because they're working on them all the 226 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,760 time. 227 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:23,679 » I thought the train metro link was supposed to bring a casino boat into the 228 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:28,720 lake at Green Park. Wasn't that a discussion at one time? 229 00:18:25,919 --> 00:18:33,120 That was a uh >> that was a flying rabbit. Uh 230 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:36,120 » was a flying rabbit. >> Yeah, 231 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:44,520 » it's a good idea. >> Someone who who lives very close to a 232 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,520 metro link. Let me tell you completely. 233 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:54,480 No, I just I I guess I'm looking at this and saying if there's aspirational 234 00:18:50,880 --> 00:19:00,240 things that presumably as a city we should be working toward this, right? 235 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:04,080 Like again looking at 2.3.1 access to the residential area north of 236 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:10,080 Southtown Farm should be via Kors Lane or Green Park Road. It isn't. It hasn't 237 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:14,960 been for 29 years. What are we doing to make that 238 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:18,240 a reality or should it not be? 239 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:23,200 » Well, the reality would be more of a private development. 240 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:28,080 » Well, no, I'm just a public development. >> I'm just talking, you know, there's a 241 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:32,720 lot of things we can write here. Should we be writing things in here that we're 242 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:36,720 working toward taking concrete actions? And if we're not, should they even be in 243 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:43,320 there? I I don't know. authority 244 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,320 question. 245 00:19:43,598 --> 00:19:52,240 [laughter] Yeah. And the Lyn Lin Ferry. 246 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:56,000 » Yeah. Have we done anything to make that a walkable destination location? 247 00:19:54,559 --> 00:20:01,520 » We've talked about >> Well, yeah. We put in an ice cream shop. 248 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:09,200 Well, and if the if when Derek has his way and 249 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:14,320 gets all the financing and stuff, then curbs, gutters, sidewalks, all that's 250 00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:19,120 going to go in. So, it's possible that it could still 251 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:25,360 be more that way. And and the road could actually during that process be 252 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:29,280 redesigned and not be such a um well it would just be designed to be 253 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:32,960 more of you could have parking on there or some kind of you know you could 254 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:36,640 figure all this stuff out. So that one's not really by the sky possible. it it's 255 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:42,240 always been >> that that's more walkable now than it's 256 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,159 ever been because you've got sidewalks along Tessan, 257 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:49,120 » right? >> All the way up to um 258 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,480 » all the way up to Lindberg, >> right? 259 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:57,280 » And there are a lot of there are a lot of people walking on that, you know, 260 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:03,039 along that route now that the that the sidewalks are there. And the discussion 261 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:06,640 was to approach possibly the government get federal grants for for that 262 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:10,320 improvement. >> Yeah. 263 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:14,080 » What I'm talking about we're doing something about 264 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:19,520 » we never came to a final conclusion of what to do there. 265 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:23,520 » I mean we only have so much land that we can work with as the city, 266 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:28,400 right? >> Well, we have we have right of way. So 267 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:33,840 we have rightway. So, I mean, for instance, can you make Glindville a 268 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:39,919 one-way street go going from Lindberg to 21 and put 269 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:47,200 parking slots along it so that you can make it a walkable thing or 270 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:51,760 » I don't think the stores are really >> Well, they aren't right now, but seems 271 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:57,120 like Yeah, right now it seems like everybody is a drive to destination, 272 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:01,120 » right? and not a walking destination. So, you would have to come up with more 273 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,240 walking uh uh shops. 274 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:10,159 » Yeah. >> So, but like you're you're not going to 275 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:12,080 walk to get tire rims, tires, >> go get your haircut, get 276 00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:15,600 » right, >> get your window tinted and get a drug 277 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,440 test or something out in the street >> and get an ice cream cone 278 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:23,640 » and then maybe get some Botox on the way out. nails. 279 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:29,840 » Well, you can get an ice cream and Botox. No, 280 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:33,600 » I mean, you know, >> bicycle. 281 00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:39,120 » We need the bicycle stick. No, we don't because we get a bunch of 282 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:45,320 » uh uh those bic It would be selling ebikes. 283 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,320 » Yeah, we don't want ebike sales. 284 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,320 » I I see them drive going up and down the park a lot. 285 00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:53,200 bikes. >> Which which parking lot? 286 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,039 » Over in the park. >> In the park. Yeah. As long as they stay 287 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,200 in the park. A lot of times they stay on Green Park. Right. 288 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,679 » Well, that's true, too. I've seen a couple 289 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,159 » and that's when the police gets gets involved. 290 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:11,440 » Others means nobody has held on. >> Uh, and they're all Yeah, they're all 291 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:14,559 younger and parental control seems to be lacking. 292 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:20,080 » People have said they had to have helmets. Not a good idea. 293 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:25,760 Kids should wear helmets all the time. Not these kids. 294 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,679 Anybody hear that loud explosion from the park? 295 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:32,240 » Explosion. >> Yeah. I called the 911 immediately 296 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:36,159 because there was huge pump of smoke. Two cars came zipping out and we all 297 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,159 stood there. >> Which 298 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:48,640 » park? It was >> Yeah. Oh yeah. Not not the not the green 299 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:55,440 parks. So somebody >> Didn't you guys go over to the park the 300 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:58,880 other night as I called the explosion? >> Yeah, I mean there were three of you 301 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,440 guys cars and the fire department came because 302 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:06,880 » was that leftover fireworks? >> I don't know. It It wasn't fireworks or 303 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:10,799 anything big >> maybe. And they didn't The police in the 304 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:14,000 fire truck didn't stay long. We all stood out there waiting for them to at 305 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:20,159 least come by and say, "Did you hear that?" Oh, they all went back. So, but 306 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:24,640 it was loud. This is the second one. They Somebody 307 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,720 else did one. It wasn't big like this though. So, they're 308 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:32,880 » Is it inside the car? >> You said a car went 309 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,799 » Yeah. two cars came driving out after >> really fast. 310 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:41,360 » Well, not not too fast. Last time it was real fast. Dad complain about this. 311 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:45,039 » Yeah. So, we thought they put those gates up. 312 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,840 » No, no explosions in Green Park. All right. So, anyway, 313 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:50,840 » okay. >> Anyway, 314 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:13,679 on this acreage that says needs updating. Who does 315 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,159 » on which what >> needs updating for the acreage 316 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,000 » acreage >> on the last page? I don't know. Who does 317 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000 the 318 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:32,640 » I had done one where I updated the uh street list because we added streets and 319 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:40,240 they weren't there like Manor and uh what's the one across here? 320 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:47,200 across from the fire station or I should say uh Antiggo. 321 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:51,080 So there were some streets that we had. >> Yeah, I just noticed that 322 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:09,679 single family land use. So yes, uh Clyde, well 323 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:13,039 since we didn't change the uh zoning map. 324 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,320 trying to think if 325 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:31,159 the the zoning map didn't change. I would say the acorage 326 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,159 should not accept 327 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:39,400 roads. I guess the streets they put in that 328 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,400 public change. 329 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:48,799 When when was this what chart made? >> I'm sorry. The [clears throat] the chart 330 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:56,000 that we're looking at that needs to be updated. What is it from? 2008 or 200 331 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,799 13. Okay. 332 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,799 » 2013. 333 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:08,640 » So I'm looking at the land use in the acreage. 334 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:13,440 I don't think the zoning map changed for single family or multifamily or 335 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:20,000 commercial industrial uh cultural recreational vacant 336 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:26,320 architectural. So I would say roads couple of new subdivisions. I guess the 337 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:32,400 one across uh from Antiggo. >> So that would be one, 338 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:40,640 » right? And then the other one is uh Clydesdale Manor would be 339 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Clydesdale Manor on course. So then that we had pavement on that. Uh 340 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:53,520 I got to see on 13th was did we already have Cedar Berry in 2013? I would have 341 00:27:52,000 --> 00:28:00,559 to. >> So if if if Cedar Bear was already in 342 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:09,640 when we did this plan, then we're have to add probably just roads acreage 343 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,640 based on those two streets that we have. 344 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:19,919 manage neighborhood that's been added since this, 345 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:24,200 » right? Uh but but the zoning map added as residential. So stay 346 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:35,600 um and Paul on section 30 there's there's some reference to Metro Library 347 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:38,600 that's going to come out other sections. >> Yeah. 348 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,640 So yeah. Uh Lynch. Yeah. L. 349 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,760 » Yeah. [laughter] Well, that's the second time it shows 350 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,760 up. 351 00:29:37,690 --> 00:29:39,710 » [clears throat] 352 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:52,440 » And the demographic data in that That's the one that you already 353 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,440 » right 354 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,220 [laughter] 355 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:26,279 in the 356 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,919 changes that I submitted already. I I uh 357 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:44,399 I I kept the verbiage with Linddale because 358 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:50,799 Nobody said anything, but uh 359 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:55,679 and there's been there were some changes that we already did, so I tried to 360 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:58,679 include them on the maps that I put in there. 361 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:11,039 And then the one line of properties over on 362 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:17,120 Green Park where the the guy has three properties in a row and they're single 363 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:22,320 family. I I said I mean we already have uh 364 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:29,679 multif family behind the nursing home on along Kors. 365 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:36,559 Yeah. And the the little area next to that is the highway 366 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:41,279 department and we eventually if they're going to be out of there that that's 367 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:46,399 going to be multif family. So I just made those other three lots multif 368 00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:49,360 family. >> Well they are single family right now. 369 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:53,279 » That's right. >> The only multif family we have would be 370 00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:56,240 the apartments. >> Right. 371 00:31:53,600 --> 00:32:00,960 » The apartments. He's just saying future his vision for those lots is multit. 372 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,399 » Okay. >> So the future map doesn't mean you have 373 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,600 to change zoning. It just means that's what 374 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,440 » right >> if somebody came in and asked we would 375 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:15,600 be able to point to this and say yeah that is that is our plan. 376 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,960 » Did you mention county out >> what 377 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:22,559 » did you mention county yard area becoming multif family? 378 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:26,480 » He shows that on his map. Yes. >> Yeah. 379 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:31,200 What was their response? >> Well, Derek, it's a it's a future. It's 380 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:34,720 this is visioning. You don't go kick people out tonight and say [laughter] 381 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,159 you got to go. It's like we're just letting the county know like we've told 382 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:44,399 them a million years. You don't really fit in the middle of our city. So, 383 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:50,159 whenever you got somewhere else to go, >> but when you do leave, 384 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:55,039 this is what multi chang and they can take their tower with them. 385 00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:55,039 » Yeah. 386 00:32:55,519 --> 00:33:03,039 So, but the on those three lots over along Green Park that that guy I don't 387 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:08,480 know how many months ago he came in and said, you know, they they want they 388 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:13,840 called it multifamily things. Yeah. So, I say just change it 389 00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:18,559 and that's where a lot of our multif family 390 00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:23,679 his properties are. So, >> well, his goal was to stay plant 391 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:27,000 industrial. That's where the bunnies at. Peter B. 392 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:36,320 But another guy though that you'll recall was one. Yeah, that was kind of a 393 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:40,080 Yeah. backed up. >> Well, but the guy that currently owns 394 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:45,919 all that over there, he said he's going to uh go back to just getting somebody 395 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,240 to go in the single family things that he has. Well, there's only one house 396 00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:54,799 over there. >> Well, I think he wanted to go in and use 397 00:33:51,039 --> 00:34:01,200 it. multif family like it or I'm sorry PLI like it was that was his goal is to 398 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:09,320 get somebody in there and keep it PLI >> okay 399 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,320 » but that did not work out 400 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:15,800 » so so yeah multif family I think that's a good visual 401 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:23,919 just >> and then uh I guess the other thing that 402 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:27,960 I changed was what was in uh green over by 403 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:35,440 the florals 404 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:42,159 » uh you know where we wanted to put multif family things in there. I just 405 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:47,839 went back to leaving it as single families 406 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:54,200 because that's what's over there now. Uh there's a house with a beekeeper is 407 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,200 there. 408 00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:03,200 » If there's if there's any kind of multifamily development 409 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:11,040 uh on that property right along cores there u the the people in Ronny Hills 410 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:15,920 are going to raise hell. They're they're in here 411 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:20,320 frequently complaining about the traffic now. Oh, okay. 412 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:26,079 » And the vehicle traffic and the and the uh and the trucks and whatever. And 413 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:34,640 there's just there's no there's no good answer to, you know, to 414 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:39,040 what they uh what they want solved. uh 415 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:43,520 shutting the thing off and and having, you know, they they surely wouldn't vote 416 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:49,040 for making that private property and they all pay for the streets and 417 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:54,640 whatever, which is which would do what what they want to do. They want one 418 00:35:51,280 --> 00:36:00,480 entry, one entry, one exit said I don't I don't have cut through. And I and and 419 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:06,720 they'd be in here with pitchforks, I think, if uh if we tried to suggest that 420 00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:14,079 there be a multifamily development on, you know, that would immediately access 421 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:17,800 that that area that the uh what is a what's the street ter 422 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:25,480 » py? Yes. That connects in. So 423 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:33,520 proceed at your own risk. [laughter] 424 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:38,560 » There has been discussion for 30 years to do something 425 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:45,119 for all of that traffic cut through the traffic as they say. 426 00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:48,520 » Well, is that an issue that we need to try and solve? 427 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:55,880 I don't know if you can solve it. >> Right. 428 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,880 But you can discuss it. 429 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:07,599 And I I agree with uh uh my uh the Paty Ronnie Hills people would have a huge 430 00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:16,280 [cough and clears throat] negative response to 431 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:16,280 adding any more traffic through P 432 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:39,119 All 433 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,960 right, everybody. 434 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:16,480 on the future map, Gary, when you say light blue for the the swim school area 435 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,079 on St. John's Church. >> Yeah. 436 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:25,280 » Um, is that light blue like institutional or light blue like light 437 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,680 industrial business? >> Uh, 438 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,200 I can't remember what that piece of property was. 439 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:41,520 » Is that the swimming? >> Yeah. And I saw that you had put light 440 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:45,680 blue and I'm just trying to figure out there's two kind of light blues on this 441 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,359 thing. So I'm figuring out first of all which one. And then second about 442 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:57,960 why >> flight industry and business and then 443 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,960 » constitutional public and semi-public. 444 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:12,040 I think swim school is commercial and so is the dealership behind all these 445 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,040 commercial but commercial 446 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:20,640 » behind all these >> I believe swim school is still 447 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:24,240 commercial that's why 448 00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:32,240 » this isn't a zoning map but yeah it's >> so you would think that commercial stops 449 00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:40,040 right at uh St. John Church, but it does not. Commercial goes one business past 450 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,040 St. John's Church. 451 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:53,760 » Well, Kasa Gallardo was there and then Aldi's was at the swim school 452 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:58,640 and then Aldi's sold it to swim school and then Aldi's moved in where Kasa is 453 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:02,079 right now. Right. 454 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:06,000 » So that's why it was commercial because all these was there. 455 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,000 » Oh, okay. >> Anyway, I'm just trying to figure out 456 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:14,800 which which light blue you're referring to. 457 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:20,640 » I'm assuming light industrial business, not the in institutional public semi. 458 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,920 » But because it's a pool and a swim school, I was making sure you weren't 459 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,320 considering it a school and so therefore you 460 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,960 » Oh, no. It's good. Yeah. >> Okay. So, extend What is on Lindberg 461 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,280 business court down to that corner is what you're saying 462 00:40:53,040 --> 00:41:00,800 time had to be brown. >> Yeah, I agree. 463 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:07,240 The other one I I can't remember what it is, but that long not long thing that 464 00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:07,240 had to be brown also. 465 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,319 So yeah, that's the only changes that I 466 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:41,440 All right, I'm gonna put some of Gary's things in for people to look at next 467 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:47,920 month and make a few other changes and or next month or whatever. Right. But 468 00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:53,839 that's your homework. The the thing that I put in I started off since we're more 469 00:41:50,880 --> 00:42:00,040 concerned about residential people. So I started off I 470 00:41:55,359 --> 00:42:00,040 The old one doesn't start off 471 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:14,960 2.2.2. The Burlington monitor railroad right away should serve as an 472 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:20,160 immortaration line and buffer between future residential properties to its 473 00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:27,200 northwest and light office commercial uses to the southeast. 474 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:33,920 Uh anyway, I started explaining what our single family 475 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:40,359 areas are in more detail than we had before and then went on beyond that, I 476 00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:40,359 guess. 477 00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:06,200 So yeah, I guess make whatever change you think and uh 478 00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:06,200 we can talk about it again. 479 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,240 Good ideas. 480 00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:19,520 It only seems to happen when we have somebody else 481 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:25,680 is somebody reminds us of our issues. >> Yeah. The things we should say. 482 00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:32,319 » Yep. I guess we should the other times we've had you guys think 483 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:38,720 about this signs when they when we had 10 15 years ago uh when we had the fast 484 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,280 foods and the billboards. >> Oh yes. 485 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:46,880 » Menus I'm sorry menu signs. uh we're getting 486 00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:55,760 more elaborate and then we've had uh other signs to entice you into the menu. 487 00:43:52,240 --> 00:44:01,359 » So, so we had to uh overhaul our sign codes like to add 488 00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:05,560 uh new generation of uh of fast food signs. 489 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,560 » Yeah. 490 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:12,400 » Yes. And then we had the discussion about the 491 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:19,280 billboards with the digital bill boards, >> right? Adding, subtracting, 492 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:23,200 you know, one digital board. We got you got to you got to eliminate 493 00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:31,040 regular >> in particular the three there are along 494 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:35,680 Green Road going over to Munich. Yeah, they they to eliminate some signs 495 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:43,359 just to get >> right. Yeah, eliminate one and 496 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:47,520 get one. And I don't know what to do about those 497 00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:52,319 uh currently residential properties along 498 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:59,280 Green Park Road or the Union that are on the right side. 499 00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:06,079 » Yeah, the right side. not n not well non-conforming uh but since as Paul said 500 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:12,319 previously if they continuously use it as residential for 30 years then I 501 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:18,880 believe we allowed them to stay you can't just kick somebody out 502 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:24,960 » no right so u but you say >> as for what you want in the future if 503 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:29,440 they happen to leave or or turn it into a business Yeah, that that's what we 504 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:34,359 would want to do. >> Well, there is one that is currently 505 00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:34,359 vacant. 506 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,800 » It's vacant. >> Oh, it is. 507 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,599 » Oh, okay. I >> think that's the one who had the couch 508 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:46,079 in front of >> Oh, yeah. 509 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,680 The couch is now gone. The one closest to the creek? 510 00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:52,240 » No, the one furthest away from the creek. 511 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,800 » So, they just That was in terrible shape. They 512 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:06,800 There's actually restor >> continue using it as residential 513 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:14,160 » if it's you know 514 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:17,359 » last month the guy that wanted to change >> that was old Green Park Road. 515 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,200 » Old Green Park Road. Yeah. And you wanted residential. We didn't 516 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:26,960 » I I wasn't here. So >> it's it's it's PLI district. Oh, 517 00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:33,119 » so remember uh Wilson Manufacturing next to Wilson were like four or five 518 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:38,640 residential homes. Wilson bought all those out and then developed it as 519 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,000 planned line by industrial. On the other end, you've got some old homes that 520 00:46:41,467 --> 00:46:49,680 [cough] were turned into businesses just like on 521 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:56,400 on Yuma behind. >> Oh yeah. So turn it into businesses but 522 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,839 didn't continue with their occupancy permits. So you didn't know what was 523 00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:08,560 there. I believe there was a guy that was at a landscape company of some sorts 524 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:13,680 and uh storage. So if it switches from residential true residential to a 525 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:16,560 business then you no longer have that residential 526 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:23,640 protection. >> Right. 527 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,640 He wanted his friend to live there 528 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:35,040 » and all of those lots in Yuma are not performing use. So they were residential 529 00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:40,920 and they 530 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,920 turned it into a business. 531 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:53,040 It's been a while since I wrong. >> Yeah, that's a joke. Um, we have some 532 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:59,200 some of that pavement down here that you mentioned from 533 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:07,359 Matthew is the other. So, it's asphalt concrete in the area that that failure 534 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:13,520 you have is belongs to Taco Bell. So when they developed Taco Bell and Golden 535 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:20,880 Corral and uh uh Dairy Queen, uh Taco Bell took over that section and 536 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:26,720 there's strip that goes all the way to uh all the way to Florida and that is uh 537 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:34,400 pavement failure and I believe it's some great problem. So that it's private. Uh 538 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:40,720 the concrete part was the new driveway for all the corral because Nobody wanted 539 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:46,800 to um improve all the rest of the residents business owners did not want 540 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:54,160 to uh contribute money to improving Yuma Drive private. So they opted to build 541 00:48:51,440 --> 00:49:03,040 their own private driveway to access their properties. 542 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:06,640 So um I believe we're going to contact it Taco Bell. 543 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:12,880 Yes. >> To tell them that they have a subgrade 544 00:49:09,839 --> 00:49:17,960 issue and possibly a public safety issue, but they would have to make that 545 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,960 repair. 546 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,200 » Motion to 547 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:25,720 mis. 548 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,760 What's that roadway? 549 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:44,400 It's just a gravel road, I think, that goes into those three properties along 550 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:47,440 Green Park that the guy wanted to >> That's a private driveway for the guy 551 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,000 behind >> to the guy behind 552 00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:56,800 » Hill. Yeah. 553 00:49:53,839 --> 00:50:01,520 » So before you get to Cedar Berry subdivision, there's a 554 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,760 road >> that there's a drive gravel driveway and 555 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,559 that >> I wouldn't call it a road. 556 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,800 » It's a gravel driveway for that resident in the back, 557 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:17,280 » right? And apparently they they use it because 558 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,640 of activate people back there. 559 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:23,599 » Well, that's their only access, so they have to use it, 560 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:29,520 » right? They have no other eyes. So they're it's it's basically a flag lot 561 00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:34,880 is what they call. You've got a driveway long driveway to 562 00:50:33,339 --> 00:50:37,880 [laughter] >> acres. 563 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,920 Okay. >> He's he's done some improvements back. 564 00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:55,359 » Very nice. I think >> I have not tripped back there. 565 00:50:52,400 --> 00:51:01,760 » You know, he wanted to actually buy those lots and put his storage there. 566 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:04,880 » Guess he didn't do it in time. So, >> well, it's it's residential 567 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,680 » now. Yeah, that's the main thing. >> So, he could buy it, but it's it's 568 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,680 residential, >> right? That was the problem. We should 569 00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:16,240 have done it immediately when the guy went to move. 570 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:19,920 » Well, no. Uh, it was residential since the city incorporated. So city didn't 571 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:24,559 come up with it. >> And right they would have kept the 572 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:29,480 » industrial use going. They could have kept it going but they they let it 573 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:36,960 park coming up right from facad on the right street by Ela. 574 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,599 » Well that private >> it is 575 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:44,960 » about two lots there. >> It's private. It's Yes. Two or three 576 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:48,280 lots. Correct. You're correct. 577 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,119 move that line. 578 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:04,760 » Yeah, they wanted the uh boundary adjustment 579 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:11,839 because I believe the lot line was going through the building possibly or 580 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:17,280 » they built a they built a house after that. Well, I they built the house, then 581 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:25,160 they came in and said, "Hey, we need to adjust the slot line." 582 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,160 » Yeah, probably. 583 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:35,400 » Or was it a rundown building that they rehabed or something like that? 584 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:44,079 » I will second. Thanks. Motion to hear. Uh, did we do this? 585 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:48,160 » You're [clears throat] not the chair, Derek. That's the chair's job. You just 586 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:54,160 let him argue. >> This yellow thing that you have on on 587 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:57,599 your zoning code for the marijuana regulations, that's how it's going to 588 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:03,440 read. That's what it did. 589 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:08,400 Hours of operation. I don't I didn't I don't know. I didn't put that in there. 590 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:13,119 Um, how it's going to read is hours of operation, all sales or distribution of 591 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:16,800 marijuana and any other products sold to the public marijuana dispensary facility 592 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:21,040 shall occur only >> you're going to change the hours. 593 00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:25,040 » Uh-huh. Yeah. 9:00 a.m. to 10 p.m. Monday through Saturday and 9:00 a.m. to 594 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:30,079 8:00 p.m. on Sunday. >> Yeah. 595 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:32,960 » But we'll change it after the >> Well, yeah. It's going to be in an 596 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:38,520 ordinance >> just like that. 597 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,520 That's one. There's sneak peek. 598 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:46,000 » Well, uh I make [clears throat] a motion we do have miscellaneous. 599 00:53:44,319 --> 00:53:49,480 » Oh, do we have any miscellaneous? >> I don't think so. 600 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,240 » Motion to adjourn. >> Thank you. 601 00:53:51,839 --> 00:54:01,032 » Second. Uh it's been motioned and second and 602 00:53:59,012 --> 00:54:01,032 [clears throat] 603 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,000 » item 754.