[2:00] uh the RV 7:00 that says 659. I'll call
this meeting to order. If we could have
[2:06] uh Steve Core lead us in the pledge.
[clears throat]
[2:10] I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[2:16] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[2:22] justice for all.
[2:27] » Right. I'll entertain a motion to
approve the agenda.
[2:31] » So moved.
>> Second.
[2:35] » Okay. It's been moved by Councilman
Dutch, second by Councilwoman Bushman.
[2:39] Is there any further discussion? Seeing
none, all in favor of the motion signify
[2:43] by saying I.
>> I.
[2:44] » I.
>> It's unanimous.
[2:49] Um, first item on the agenda is citizens
and other communications. Are there any
[2:54] citizens in the audience that are not?
Go ahead, Janet. [laughter]
[3:05] » Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name
is Jenna Cartford. Um, I appreciate the
[3:10] time to come up here and talk to you.
Um, tonight, surprisingly, I'm talking
[3:15] about Mustangs
and I was able to get two more Mustangs
[3:20] from the honor form. I have a agreement
with the BLM.
[3:23] I uh sign on as a volunteer for them and
then I volunteered for the city as well
[3:29] to have the Mustangs there. So this year
they brought me two mares, super nice
[3:36] horses, very kind, very gentle. Um, they
were halter started from the honor farm.
[3:42] And when they halter start their horses,
they also put pack saddles on them. So
[3:48] if you're looking for a horse to pack
your elk out, your deer out, whatever,
[3:54] um, these little gals are ready to do
that. The sorrel horse, which is red, is
[4:00] a 2-year-old, and she's about 14
143 hands high. So, she's going to be a
[4:07] big girl. The other little horse up
there is a bae, and she's 141 and she's
[4:13] 5 years old.
And she is super cute. I wished I had
[4:18] room for her. I take her.
But she's got um different markings than
[4:24] the normal bay She's got a line
down her back. She's got stripes on her
[4:29] legs, stripes on her neck, and some
striping markings on her face. So, she
[4:34] That's typical done marking, which you
don't see in a bay horse. I've sent
[4:39] their hair in
to get it the DNA tested and it hasn't
[4:43] come back yet. I kind of think that
little bay horse might be have some
[4:47] Spanish barb in her. She she's a little
short coupled and that's kind of what
[4:51] those horses look like. The Sorl mayor,
as I told you, she's two and she already
[4:58] has a family that has put a papers in to
adopt her. So, that went really fast.
[5:03] The week after I had them here, they
called me about her. So,
[5:07] um I'm interested to see what her DNA
says because she's got a little bit of a
[5:12] curly mane and if you look in her ears,
they're a little curly. So, she might
[5:15] have a little bit of curly in her. She's
from Little Colorado, which is
[5:21] north of here. has you're headed towards
Labarge on the right hand side and
[5:27] across the highway 28. That's where
little Colorado goes. It um blends in
[5:34] from White Mountain. So that's Little
Colorado HMA. Excuse me. The Aorse is
[5:41] from Lost Creek, which is farther east
kind of in the middle of the the Divide
[5:50] Basin area.
So, and it's a tiny little spot there.
[5:56] I'm not familiar with those poison. So,
I gave you a map of the HMA and you can
[6:03] see on the map Little Colorado
and Lost Creek.
[6:09] So, interestingly, so this is an old
map. It shows Divide Basin on there and
[6:15] it also shows Salt Wells.
Those two HMAs have been done away with.
[6:22] If you go to a new map,
those are gone. Um, this happened
[6:28] because the
um
[6:33] cattleman and sheman and ones that own
the ranches out there sued the
[6:39] government and want all of the mustangs
taken off of Dubai Basin and Salt Whales
[6:46] HMA. So, what they've done is they've
removed those boundaries.
[6:51] However, the horses are still there.
There's still quite a few horses, and
[6:55] I'm not sure when they're going to go
gather those. Um, there's another
[7:00] lawsuit against the BLM to not gather
them. So, it's hard to say. It's It's
[7:07] hard to get rid of all the mustangs out
there because just like wolves, they
[7:11] don't know boundaries. They don't know
where they're supposed to be and not be.
[7:14] So, um, the interesting thing about Salt
Wells is it's got a high population of
[7:22] curies.
So, people really like the curies. And
[7:26] the other thing is they've got a huge
following. So, there are people that
[7:30] come over all over the United States to
see these horses.
[7:34] And the that's good, but the bad thing
is they go out and wander amongst them.
[7:39] And [clears throat] the horses get kind
of acclimated to people around which is
[7:43] really not interesting.
They had um one full born this year.
[7:49] Those people walking around the herd out
there had spooked the new mother and she
[7:54] abandoned that little horse. So
So the BLM went and got the f and
[7:59] somebody's fostering right now. So it's
in good hands.
[8:05] I uh haven't had the chance to put any
signs up there. Um the wind's kind of
[8:11] horrible.
[8:15] So, but um I advise they're very very
friendly and they'll come up to you and
[8:19] want to be petted, but sometimes they
can be a little nippy and a little
[8:23] mouthy. So, just watch your hands and
try not to feed them because they could
[8:28] get a little excited about having food.
They don't know about carrots and they
[8:34] don't know about apples.
So, I don't know if anybody's been up
[8:38] there trying to give them that, but
they'll spit them out. So, the other
[8:42] thing you need to be careful is that
there's too big of a chunk of
[8:47] carrots or apples, they could choke on.
So, we don't want that. Um,
[8:52] otherwise, they're they're going to be
there till the 1st of September. I know
[8:57] they were late getting here. The BLM's
understaffed.
[9:01] There's only
um well there's three people at the Rock
[9:06] Springs office but one of them's hurt
and he's not able to do much and then
[9:12] the other one is retiring here in a few
days. So yeah. So he'll be down to one
[9:18] person. Um the other thing I want to
mention is these uh horses from the
[9:24] Honor Farm in Riverton.
Um they do a really good job with these
[9:29] horses. They send horses to um Cheyenne
Frontier Days. They do an offering
[9:36] advert form and sometimes those horses
go for as much as $6,000.
[9:43] So, um that facility is going to be the
number one facility in the United
[9:49] States. They're shutting down the Canyon
City
[9:52] um prison from handling horses now. So,
it'll be Riverton and there's one still
[9:59] in um
[10:04] down and above. I can't think of the
name of the facility, but so
[10:10] that's I want to thank the city too for
allowing me to bring these horses in. I
[10:15] think it's good for uh people to see
them, exposure for them, and to get more
[10:20] of them adopted. There's a lot out there
that need homes, and these guys are
[10:24] really good. be good horses for you.
>> You could have a go present, Pete.
[10:31] [laughter]
[10:34] » I I always enjoy going and looking at
him.
[10:38] You don't have the opportunity to see
them up close very often. So,
[10:43] » yeah,
>> I appreciate all that you do there.
[10:46] » Oh, thanks. I'm a little behind on their
uh on the recycling their
[10:55] but [laughter]
caught up.
[10:59] Any other questions for me?
[11:04] » Thanks for the presentation, Janet.
>> Thank you.
[11:06] » Thank you, Janet.
>> Thank you, Janet.
[11:14] [clears throat]
[11:17] Okay, moving on. Item five, ordinance is
item A. Consideration on second reading
[11:22] or ordinance amended
for somebody else.
[11:25] » Oh, sorry.
[cough and clears throat]
[11:30] » Thanks, sir.
[11:38] » I'm Brad Dodson. Uh I work for Green
River Police Department and uh I'm not
[11:42] here to speak for Green River Police
Department. Chief's here. He does a
[11:45] great job. We're happy to have him here.
I'm here as a citizen and also just as
[11:51] somebody who works with the department
to
[11:55] wanted to make myself available. Uh last
meeting uh you guys decided not to
[12:01] approve the LPR project. And while I
recognized that decision, um I was a
[12:07] little disappointed. didn't listen to
the chief a little bit more and and
[12:11] maybe take a little bit more time to
re-evaluate that decision before coming
[12:15] to that conclusion. So, there's a lot of
people that did a lot of work on that
[12:19] project and a lot of us that were hoping
that that was something that was going
[12:22] to come to fruition because it was going
to be a tool that we were going to use
[12:25] that could use. It's going to help us
with investigations. So, part of the
[12:29] reason why I'm here is that's what I do
today. I had people asking me, "Do you
[12:33] have cameras? Do you have LPRs?"
um we come up we deal with that quite a
[12:38] bit and I wanted to maybe voice that and
maybe that's something you as a council
[12:42] hasn't heard from the community that
people do look for those things and ask
[12:47] for those things and wonder if those are
tools that we have available at uh
[12:51] artists uh
being able to to to use um shortly after
[12:57] your guys's meeting on Tuesday night
that weekend we had a stolen vehicle and
[13:02] I actually made a lot of phone calls to
other law enforcement agencies and were
[13:06] able to utilize LPRs from other
[laughter] areas to help track where
[13:10] that stolen vehicle came. And that
stolen vehicle was stolen out of Green
[13:13] River out of somebody's driveway. Um,
this weekend, this last weekend, we had
[13:17] another attempt uh of somebody trying to
steal a vehicle. And there's a we don't
[13:22] like to talk about specifics of
investigations because we don't want,
[13:27] you know, the bad guys essentially to
know what we're doing. But we have a
[13:30] lead and we have a lead on a vehicle and
an LPR would have been great to have or
[13:36] some more cameras to have to help maybe
track that vehicle down. It's a tool and
[13:40] again I'm not here to say should have,
would have, could have, but at the same
[13:44] time make myself available as somebody
who works there and interacts with the
[13:48] community daily knowing that hey this is
something people ask. this is something
[13:53] people maybe even expect us to have and
how beneficial it could be to us and
[13:59] specifically to me time management hours
all of those things. So I'll be here uh
[14:05] I'll be here at the end of the meeting
if anybody wants to meet uh to meet with
[14:08] me have any questions I make sure
everybody has my contact information.
[14:12] Um, I do appreciate the chief and coming
to you guys and and really putting
[14:17] together a project that that could have
benefited us and I think would have
[14:20] benefited the entire community of Green
River. And I hope that if it comes in
[14:24] front of you again, consider it. Um, and
hey, if there's some if there's some
[14:29] push back or some questions,
happy I'm happy to be here. I'm happy
[14:34] come down to the office. I can meet
afterwards wherever. pretty pretty easy
[14:38] to get a hold of and would happy to
dispel some fears or concerns or maybe
[14:44] just give another side of the story,
especially somebody who's on essentially
[14:48] the front line trying to trying to solve
these crimes for the citizens of this
[14:51] community every day. So, thanks for your
consideration. You know, I'm one of
[14:56] those people that don't show up because
unless there's an issue, right? And so,
[15:00] I I I appreciate that and recognize the
lack of sacrifice here, but I I I
[15:03] recognize the sacrifice that everybody
else is making by being here. So, that's
[15:07] not lost. Um, I do appreciate working
for the city of Green River. This is and
[15:12] I've told my supervisors this is the
best job, best place I've ever worked
[15:16] and and I will continue to tell
everybody that. Um, I just hope that
[15:20] maybe we can work together a little bit
more on on some future projects. And all
[15:25] I got. So, thanks for your time.
Appreciate it. Stay safe out there.
[15:29] Thank you.
>> Appreciate you hearing your perspective.
[15:32] » Thank you.
[15:38] Okay.
Have a council.
[15:41] » Ask if there's anybody else. [laughter]
>> There isn't. There's Well, there could
[15:45] be.
>> There could be.
[15:46] » Are there any other citizens in the
audience that are not on the agenda that
[15:51] would like to address the council?
>> Okay. Seeing none, I'm going to move on
[15:57] to ordinances. Thank you, councel. Um,
item A, consideration on second reading
[16:02] an ordinance amending the Green River
code of ordinances, appendix D,
[16:06] franchises,
article 4, US Corporation.
[16:12] The past several months, the city has
been working with Quest Corporation and
[16:16] Red Oaks to update the current franchise
agreement. So, this is the second
[16:21] reading on this particular ordinance.
[16:28] Anybody else have anything to say about
this? If not, I'll entertain a motion.
[16:33] » Mayor,
>> Councilman Berg,
[16:34] » I move to approve on second reading an
ordinance amending the Green River Code
[16:37] of Ordinances, Appendix D, Franchises,
Article 4, Quest Corporation.
[16:44] » Second.
>> Okay. Moved by Councilman Berg, seconded
[16:47] by Councilman Chetr. Is there any
further discussion?
[16:51] None. All in favor of the motion signify
by saying I.
[16:54] » I.
>> Opposed. Motion carries. I believe it's
[16:58] unanimous. Item B, consideration of SE
on second reading and ordinance amending
[17:04] the Green River code of ordinances
appendic D franchises adding article
[17:08] five, [snorts] Visionary Communications
LLC.
[17:13] Okay. For the past several months, the
city has been working with Visionary
[17:17] Communications
LLC and Red Oaks to update the current
[17:21] franchise agreement. Again, this is
something we've already talked about.
[17:25] This the second reading. If there's no
questions or comments from anybody, I'll
[17:32] entertain a motion.
[17:37] » Mayor,
>> Councilman Bird,
[17:40] I move to approve on second reading an
ordinance amending the Green River Code
[17:44] of Ordinances Appendix D, franchisees
franchises adding article five,
[17:48] Visionary Communications LLC for a
franchise agreement.
[17:54] Second.
>> Okay, it's been moved by Councilman
[17:57] Burke, seconded by Councilwoman Bushman.
Is there any further discussion?
[18:03] » Seeing none, all in favor of the motion
signify by saying I.
[18:06] » I. Opposed.
>> Motion carries. Item six is the consent
[18:10] agenda. Have a motion.
>> Move.
[18:15] Move
>> by Councilman Burke, seconded by
[18:18] Councilwoman Mer. Any further
discussion?
[18:21] » Discussion on consent agenda?
You're correct. Um,
[18:28] all in favor of the motion say I.
>> I.
[18:31] » Oppos.
[18:35] Councilman Berg again. Um,
>> Mr. City Administrator. Uh, mayor
[18:42] council. Thanks. Uh, we just a couple
things that weren't in the update that
[18:48] was sent out today. We did have a
meeting with the the county and with the
[18:52] business council beforehand regarding
some opportunity zones. So I'll be able
[18:57] to put some details out on that.
There was in the previous Trump Trump
[19:02] administration the first one they had
created opportunity zones for business
[19:06] development. A lot of the corridor on
purple sage up
[19:10] around the college area
were able to be defined in that as an
[19:16] opportunity zone which provides tax
incentives
[19:20] as well as helping to bring industry in
a certain specific industry. They are
[19:25] looking for some additional areas within
the state on this round. We've it's been
[19:30] identified from west side of Green River
basically from the railroad tracks
[19:35] almost all the way out to pretty much to
the border of the county on left hand
[19:40] side and going slightly north it can
cover into Granger Opal some of the
[19:45] mining areas. So uh we have to meet some
certain criteria regarding household
[19:51] income but the the area is defined
enough that we might be able to to get
[19:56] that done. If so, it'll get presented to
the governor for approval from a federal
[20:00] side. So, you'll you'll see some more
stuff coming in that. But if you hear
[20:02] something about OZ or Oz or opportunity
zones, that's what that stuff is. And
[20:09] um we also had a meeting regarding with
the power coalition. We're still moving
[20:13] forward with that. The group that has
been set up to look at Rocky Mountain
[20:18] Power, other facilities that might be
able to provide power to the area. We
[20:22] have a meeting with the public service
commission, Rocky Mountain Power and
[20:25] some other agencies from there is being
set up at the end of August, but so it's
[20:29] still continuing to move forward. That's
all happen.
[20:33] » Thank you, Reed. Anybody have any
questions for Reed?
[20:38] » Gayen,
>> I have no report tonight, your honor.
[20:42] » Thank you, Gayen. Councilman Kilpek,
>> I do have one thing I'd like to discuss
[20:48] just for a second with the council and
with myself and that is the LPR, the
[20:54] license plate reader.
I received an email and I think the rest
[20:58] of the council received it as well in
regards to u
[21:04] uh the people that voted for it were
dumb and dishonest.
[21:09] And then he brought up my name and
email. I'll I'll accept the dumb part
[21:13] because sometimes sometimes I am dumb.
Just ask my kids if you don't believe
[21:19] me. But the other part where he said I
was dishonest. I do not accept that. I
[21:25] think that's a slander and I think
that's unacceptable. And I think that
[21:29] individual who lives in Laramie, Wyoming
is totally out of line and has no right
[21:35] to say that without any knowledge or
information. So I voting back a short
[21:41] notice. No council got it meant what I
said and I stand by that. The other
[21:47] thing I'd like to bring up u
LPR the wisest plate readers is all the
[21:54] people that were in the audience two
weeks ago that were against it.
[21:59] They don't understand what what
happened, but they have been if they
[22:03] ever go to Salt Lake, then they've been
picked up by the license plate reader
[22:07] because Salt Lake has the license plate
readers all over Salt Lake. So, their
[22:12] plates have been picked up and are in
the data system. And guess what? So are
[22:17] mine because I go to Salt Lake at least
once, sometimes twice a month um for
[22:23] medical reasons. And the other thing
that the people in the audience didn't
[22:28] understand is we as a council did not
vote down the LPR.
[22:35] All we voted down was the funding
mechanism.
[22:41] So
if that comes back to the council,
[22:46] we can still vote for the LPR. We just
have to figure out how to uh pay for the
[22:53] funding. And what was interesting to me
is I don't know how long ago we as a
[23:00] council voted
for uh
[23:06] Mr. Rush to go out for the grant
to fund the LPR and we all voted in
[23:12] favor of it. All of us on the council
100% voted in favor of it. Then when it
[23:18] came back back to accept just the
funding, we turned it down. So we have
[23:24] not turned down the license plate
reader. I don't know if the chief wants
[23:29] to bring that back on the table or or if
Reed wants to bring that into a
[23:33] workshop.
That's up to whatever the
[23:39] Reed would want to do or the chief would
want to do. But I just want to make it
[23:43] clear that I will not sit here and
accept somebody calling me dishonest.
[23:51] I'll I'll agree sometimes to the dumb
part, but not the dishonest part. And
[23:56] so, uh that is totally unacceptable for
anybody to say it about anybody on the
[24:01] council. That is incorrect, not
acceptable. And so
[24:07] it's important that the public knows we
did not vote down the LPR.
[24:13] All we voted down was the funding
mechanism. And so if we want to bring it
[24:18] back, then we're going to have to figure
out a way to find the funding because we
[24:21] lost that money now. [clears throat]
That is all I have.
[24:26] » Thank you, Councilman. Councilman
Williams,
[24:28] » I have nothing.
>> Councilwoman Maser, Councilman Shatra,
[24:32] » I have no report this evening.
Councilman Burke,
[24:34] » I have had a lot of citizens come to me
with concerns on the ebikes and the e
[24:41] scooters. Um I know we've talked about
it in here as far as we are working on
[24:46] something toward that, but I did want to
bring up their concerns. Um on my way
[24:50] here tonight going around East Teton,
one shot out of the Green Belt area and
[24:55] across the road going up toward Harrison
School and if I'd have been going 2
[24:58] miles an hour faster, I wouldn't have
seen him in time. So, I just wanted to
[25:03] leave that as a point of people are
talking about it in a community.
[25:08] » That's all I've got. Mayor,
>> thank you, Council Counciloman Bushman.
[25:11] » Um, just a friendly reminder that voting
starts today in person and through
[25:16] August 18th. So, make sure you vote in
the primaries. Thank you, Mayor.
[25:22] » Thank you, Councilwoman Mayor.
>> I forgot one more thing.
[25:25] » Go ahead, Councilman LPR. Uh the
important thing was to also know what
[25:30] part of the problem the last meeting was
the company would was with Motorola went
[25:37] through Motorola.
Well, the city is already connected with
[25:42] Motorola and so we're already uh going
through their system and also I had been
[25:48] contacted while running on the green
belt by more than one person that they
[25:53] would like the city to reconsider
bringing that back to the table and
[25:59] talking about it. If you wait five
months, I'll be gone.
[26:06] That's all. That's all I have.
>> Thank you, Councilman. Um, two things.
[26:11] I'm going to start with the I'm going to
be gone in five months. Um, you know,
[26:16] there was an article in the Green River
Star. It was very nice. I got a lot of
[26:19] fine comments from people. I think it's
interesting that um in 20 years I didn't
[26:24] get too many when I'm leaving.
[clears throat]
[26:27] Qu got quite a few. So, um,
and, uh, the other thing I want to say
[26:35] is, um, the ebikes situation. We've met
with, uh, the county attorney, the
[26:43] city's prosecuting attorney, pardon me,
and he's submitted a draft to us. Um, so
[26:51] it's going to come up in a workshop very
soon. And there are lots of people in in
[26:56] the city that would like something done.
We'll have to discuss what that is. But
[27:03] uh so it's moved quite far along. We
have a draft and amongst other things we
[27:12] um gave him a copy and a of the city of
Torren Torington begins with T number of
[27:19] them
>> and uh they're the only ones in in
[27:23] really in Wyoming that that had
something already. So,
[27:28] we're quite far along in that and and
we'll be dealing with that and I suspect
[27:33] we'll be dealing with some of the other
things that have been talked about
[27:37] tonight in a
goal setting sessions coming up pretty
[27:42] soon and workshops. A lot of that has
been scheduled, held off because of the
[27:50] uh the budget, the end of the budget
year and all that sort of thing. So,
[27:54] we'll be taking up those things very
soon. And with that, I'll entertain a
[27:57] motion to adjurnn.
>> Mayor.
[28:00] » Councilman Stra.
>> I make a motion we adjourn.
[28:04] » Motion. Do we have a second?
>> Second.
[28:07] » Is that you run? Second by Councilman
Williams. Any discussion?
[28:13] All in favor of the motion signify by
saying I.
[28:16] » I.
>> Motion carries. Thank you everybody.