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Good evening. I call this foreccession of the Greenbelt City Council order. My name is Emma Jordan, I'm the mayor.

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Kristen Weaver, mayor, pertain.

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Jenny Pompy, council member.

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Thank you, Santa. Thank you, Santa, Fred's council member.

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Daniel McKinney, council member. Amy Niesel, council member.

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It's the new city council.

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So before we get began, are there any information items or discussion topics that we need to touch on for the end of the meeting?

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I'll have two Mr. Mayor.

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Okay, the Council holds work sessions on Mondays and Wednesday several times a month.

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Looks change information with communities stakeholders of the other input from staff advisory boards and residents.

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No votes or formal actions are taken during these work sessions.

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Tonight's session is open to the public as our all council meetings, except for executive sessions authorized by state law.

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So this is our first work session,

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our first gathering since being sworn in just two days ago, and it seems like quite the world

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went all the activities around Veterans Day yesterday. So tonight it's an administrative meeting,

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We've got a number of topics to consider.

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Most of the topics listed on the agenda were submitted by city managers on their own.

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And I think the bulk of the session, I think, is actually going to focus on reviewing the council standing rules so that we can adopt them at a meeting in the near future, perhaps even Monday.

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We'll be talking a bit about the nature of these work sessions, particularly the administrative work sessions and to be scheduling for the future.

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But we need to talk about our legislative priorities and we also need to talk about the district 22 legislative priority and bond sharing meeting that's coming up soon.

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So we'll also talk a bit about the council retreat coming up on a scheduled for December the 6th.

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We're going to have to shift that around because it's very important that we are all there for that session.

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So we've got a lot on here so I think those are the four areas that we will spend most of the time focusing on

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And depending on how things go, we will either go into a close session, or maybe even just speak a little bit about this process with via city manager setting goals for the city manager briefly.

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Mr. Solarong.

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Good evening, Mr. American evening council.

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Good evening residents.

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Mr. Mayor, you mentioned made a reference to the list.

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This is the list of pending topics I had noted down that council had at one point.

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said the signal that one did discuss is not a comprehensive lift. There are other items that I have, and a longer list that were not included on here, but others were more administrative items.

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And so I didn't want to overwhelm anyone by having a 20 point list.

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And with the with the new member of council and with us all sort of thinking through some of the discussions that we had during

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our campaigning over the past few months. I'm sure there's some other issues that will be able to deal with in the context of administrative work sessions such as this.

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So in the limit amount of time that we have, let's go ahead and dive in and talk a bit about the standing rules.

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Yeah. Please. I may make a suggestion that maybe we should talk about the the legislative priorities and the the bond bells and the things that are truly time sensitive because I think this is the only this is really the best opportunity we have before we get to that legislative dinner on December 2nd. So I would propose we start with that and then go to the standing rules because I'm not sure we're going to be ready to adopt the standing rules by Monday. I think we may be need to think about doing that after our retreat.

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because I think that will give us some more opportunity to discuss things, but we know that the bond bills and the other things that we want to address at the district 22 dinner are pines sensitive.

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Yeah, that's true. It's important that we do talk a bit about the outstanding rules as well, given that we have.

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Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me finish please. Let me finish.

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So, it is important that we spend some time talking about,

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but it was just for orientation to say it.

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But yes, and we really haven't gotten full presentation.

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I know the city managers have actually been kind of working through

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what the agenda is going to be like in December the second

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and given Thanksgiving and other time that we've blocked out

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for family time.

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As you said, don't really have much time at all.

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So what's Council's will, shall we start off and talk about legislative priorities, bond bills in particular focusing in on December the second.

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That works for me.

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Works for me as well.

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That's fine.

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Okay.

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So there were some materials in the packet and there was a graphic as well.

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But I'll do a head and this discussion over two Mr. Summer on because you have been working with the city managers and talking quite a bit.

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I think you actually have an outline.

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Yes, we have a we've been meeting weekly since a couple weeks ago.

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The process we've we've continued to fine tune the process, but overall the outline is going to be the same where

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we every municipality has an opportunity to discuss their legislative priorities and their

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bond bill request and each municipality is assigned a joint or a shared legislative priority.

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So for example last year we included economic development requests that were of interest to all

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municipalities in District 22, the law enforcement recruitment grants were was a

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a type priority item for Berwin Heights, and a few others, but we all benefit from having

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those grant funds available. So the presentation form is going to follow the same as last

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two years. It's just incremental improvements. You know as managers, if something works well,

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we keep that and we just keep improving on fine-tuning things that work well. So that the process

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will be the same structured. The order, we think we're going to keep the order the same, which

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is in the order that the municipalities are listed. That's what we'll present that, or obviously,

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the mayor that the host city mayor provides the welcoming remark and they are the MCs. So Mr.

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Mayor, I couldn't, you know, that's just a procedure we settled on earlier in the process.

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So we're going to be on New Charlton right we're going to be a new carolton. Yes, great. I look forward to it

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Which is not going to be a municipal building or it's going to be at the Metro 4.0 points. What's your telling? Yes

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So that's where the event will take place. The process is going to again the presentation is going to be same the cost

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It's we believe it's going to be in the same range as

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When highest fell hosted when we host their last year

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We got an amazing deal through the American Legion

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So, that's just the partnership and there's a kitchen in house, so yeah, it's going to be a little higher than it was last year, but it's still within a reasonable amount of expense for the municipalities.

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It's great.

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And this book, Do you have your hand up?

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No.

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So, what are the other, the shared, you've already kind of worked out or agreed on shared priorities?

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We have those have remained the same with the exception that there's interest of swapping the law enforcement grant because we then money has the governor has supported funding for the law enforcement agencies.

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The new law enforcement pressure we're facing throughout the district 22 in particular is the immigration and customs forcements situation.

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So the municipality started would be good to do something collectively in support initiatives that the state already has.

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So if you recall, William was spearheading.

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Williams was spearheading several bills to protect identity information

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and other things to just have fair treatment for all Maryland residents.

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So supporting initiatives like that, the managers thought it would be good.

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Particularly because different municipalities have different tools and resources to assist their communities when it comes to immigration issues.

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So good to have a baseline that the state would support.

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So that's a new initiative on there.

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That's something I welcome the feedback from council based on the work that we've been doing.

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That is the, the know your rights capacity building, the legal clinics.

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I, I, it's shared with the city, city managers and administrators that Greenville will be behind this endeavor because of all of the things we've done.

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But if council wants to take, since we haven't discussed that particular issue of council wants to discuss that,

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welcome an opportunity to hear your thoughts on it and take that back to the team. All the other priorities were

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made the same. So what the other shared problem. Yeah, let me put let me put up the comprehensive list. I have it on my run a show.

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Just bear with me.

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The infrastructure and state highways, the mental health,

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affordable housing affordability and enabling legislation for zoning and land use authority.

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Juvenile Justice reform, the economic development and LED street lights and environmental sustainability.

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Last year, these particular topics were spearheaded by different spearheaded and presented by different municipalities.

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So Riverdale presented on the infrastructure and state highways,

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Edmund Stem presented on mental health services,

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Heightsville housing affordability and enabling legislation for zoning and land use authority.

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New Carlton presented on juvenile justice reform,

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Berwin Heights presented on the police retention and recruitment grants,

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Green Bell presented on the region.

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Economic development and LED street lights in university part presented on environmental sustainability.

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So the this year we're proposing to replace the police retention and recruitment in that is driven largely

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again by the fact that Governor Governor Moore in the office of juvenile services and justice has

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to continue its funding for police departments.

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What are we replacing?

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We're replacing that with immigration,

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and we're posting immigration.

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Okay, and do you know I have the other municipalities

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also approved these shared priorities?

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The each municipality was asked about where they stand

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on these issues, because as I mentioned,

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the municipalities that presented on them,

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that was a top priority for that.

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a priority for us just a few days ago, you requested that we have a pot-hole filled, it's not

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it's on 193, so it's not the city's reception here.

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Right, so the team went out and it's on the board on the boundary of SHA, so we put in a ticket

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for that. But you know, with anything with SHA, they have a large network of rows to take care of,

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and so don't always get the things on our schedule and they are projects like

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the intersection of lay crest in 183 that it's been on a project to be studied and re-engineered

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and for years that it hasn't happened. So that continues to be a priority not just for

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river debt but for most of the municipalities. Mental health services, that's a share concern.

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We see less and less resources for mental health services, likewise for juvenile justice reform,

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And the issue that municipalities have made that the justice reform, legislation that went into effect were great and welcome, but they also needed social services funding, because without the funding to redirect young people, the legislation doesn't work as well as design.

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The housing affordability and enabling legislation for land use, authority that's combining two topics, housing affordability, is seen as a

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crutch for the state and its economic growth, but it's also creating significant hardship for communities.

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Many communities feel they're being priced out of where they live, so that continues to be a priority.

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The economic development, we just talked about this mayor last week with the FBI project.

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That is over 7,000 jobs with over $4 billion of investment that was scheduled to come to Greenbelt.

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And it would not just be a boost in economic boost for Greenbelt, but for the entire region.

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In the governor believes that it will be for the entire state.

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And then finally the environmental sustainability, we are seeing 100 years, floods being more common 50 years and 20 years.

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So those issues are not going waste or water issues are not going away, and that needs to be part of our environmental sustainability strategy, along with energy, energy generation, energy imports.

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We're seeing energy prices just rise at those are just continued to be shared concerns.

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So I don't see anything in this list that is controversial or its importance diminished over the last year.

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But I welcome your feedback if there's something that you think we need to remove.

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I can take it back to the administrators and share your concerns.

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Well, it's not just about concerns, it's just about, you know, council being in the loop and going along.

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I don't know if any of my peers, but just stepping back just a little bit for council member Fritz,

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this gathering, for many years, Greenbelt and the various municipalities with meet with the state senator and delegates to discuss legislative priorities.

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Green Belt would actually have a dinner pre-session and we would also have a dinner mid-session to try and give up dates on bills that have been submitted.

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So I guess it was two years ago, Senator Washington came up with the idea of all of the municipalities in District 22 meeting together and sharing their legislative priorities as well as their bond request at the same time.

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So that's what has brought us to this mean. This is the second the third time this would be the third year

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So we talked a little bit about those shared priorities

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So I kind of take it that the the economic development piece again would be green belt presenting that section

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Yes, I signed us up for that

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particularly in light that the state, the county, it's suing the White House over at the FBI project.

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And, you know, we're reference on it because the FBI is, the future home is in green dot.

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So, unless you want to present on any other topics, I mean.

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Well, you know, I wish we were having to do this, which is the FBI project would have been approved

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and moving forward years ago.

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So we are here where we are.

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Certainly, but you mentioned the LED street lights as well.

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So that would be incorporated.

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Yes, that's incorporated.

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And it fits nicely in there.

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It doesn't fit squarely in an economic development,

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but for some reason, the team has the perception

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that we are somehow deeply involved in the topic,

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but we haven't made much progress more than anybody else.

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We're in the same situation as everybody else on LED street lights.

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We've done the studies with done the assessments.

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We've asked PEPCO for the cost estimates to acquire the lights

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so that we can move forward with the decision

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or whether we're acquiring the lights and converting them.

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So let's just say that the team,

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there are eager to see LED street lights in their communities

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and PEPCO move forward with this.

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thought that it would be best we push this forward. Okay. Yeah. Council member Pope.

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So this, I mean, that pepper was kind of like,

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struggling getting this project ahead, or they maybe changed a mind, or

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they have a legal requirement to offer us the option for us to acquire the

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that there's been an issue, the requirement is because they have felt to do the LED

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conversion. So the Public Utilities Commission has essentially forced them to give us

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the option to acquire the light. So it's not that pepco is eager to sell us the lights or

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whatnot. This is a requirement of pepco. The challenge has been as we're fighting over lights,

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for example. I think I believe I've managed to email my latest correspondence with

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PEPCO that we heard back from state highway administration with disputed eight lights in the last

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round they've accepted four and pushed back four. So now we're fighting over four lights.

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So it puts me in a situation that I'm fighting over four lights with the state highway

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administration and it's now probably consuming a lot of time and delays in the project for us.

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So to your answer your question directly, no, I don't think I don't think

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that HEPCO has all the incentives to move faster on this.

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And we're trying to move as fast as we can, but we can't move any faster unless

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PEPCO gives us a cost estimate to acquire the lights, a contract for us to acquire the lights.

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We are still fighting over the, or disputing certain requirements that they have.

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We have an unlike college park and a few other municipalities, we have not filed a legal complaint,

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a suit with them through the Public Utilities Commission,

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because I believe that Suwellin is doing a great job representing the Chevy Chases

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and College Park and a few other municipalities.

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So we're going to benefit from that outcome.

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So I'm waiting to see how that plays out,

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and we'll benefit from whatever Suwellin negotiate.

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Suwellin is a municipal attorney that represents a number of municipalities

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on this and other issues.

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Sue Ellen is one of our lawyers.

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Sue Ellen represents us on the case against

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a pretty sure-just county fire in the MS services.

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So that's one of our attorneys.

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We have several attorneys on retainer.

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More than I would like, but they're necessary.

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And each one has a function.

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Council member.

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Just worth regards to the acquisition of the Pepeco street lights.

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So they're currently Pepco owned, and this would be the city acquiring them, is the city currently, I guess, who's paying to like them, you know, the electricity for that, is that shifted with the responsibility with the acquisition as well.

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Does that become now a municipal, it becomes part of like municipal overhead to tell those lights was a previously Pepco that was paying to keep them on, however they would do that in their own accounting.

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So we've always paid for the streetlights, we've been over paying for the streetlights

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as of last November, a year ago when I signed off on the inventory assessment.

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We had overpaid the streetlights by the tune of over $80,000.

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So Pepco Otis at that point was $83,000 in charges.

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And we overpaid them by $83,000.

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Under the new model, we will continue to pay for the lights.

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What will change is what services were paying for.

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We have three options.

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One option is where we pay just for the electricity consumption of the lights.

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We pay the full service charge for the lights,

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which is a rate that PEPCO proposes to charge the municipalities,

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where PEPCO will be responsible for the lights

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for upgrading the lights and for maintenance of the lights and perpetuity.

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And then there's a rate, a different rate,

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where we were just, we can pay just maintenance and electricity of lights

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if we do the LED conversion.

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And then they'll take over from there.

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So there's different options that we will have.

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It would be council's decision to decide which action it wants to go to.

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That do nothing option is everyone would be rolled over

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to a terraff rate that is all inclusive that we will pay for, the eventual LED upgrade, the maintenance,

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and the electricity. And the, the option where we would have the most autonomy is we only pay for

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the electricity, but we will be responsible for buying the picture, upgrading the picture, and taking

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all the calls for street adages or the complaints about the lights being to, to low, to high,

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know that. And the LED conversion, I mean, I think it's going to

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be a cost savings based on what we're paying for electricity now.

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Are they more efficient? Are they like sodium dioxide bulbs now?

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Yeah, so the the many of our lights are high pressure sodium lights and they consume a lot of electricity.

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We do have many lights that are LED lights. The feasibility studies and the cost benefit analysis that we had done early on.

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Hi, it's Phil has several studies done college park now it's on his third study

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They're all indicate that the faster we convert the lights to LED

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These shorter the payback period is for the investment of acquiring and converting the lights long term

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It also means less energy consumption, which reduces the demand on the grid

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Well, thank you. We're pertain

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so does our

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is our ask of our legislators to help us with, for example, negotiating with FHA about those

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lights.

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I mean, what specifically?

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I mean, there's also, I know, the listing on the Bondo, we haven't gotten to yet,

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but in terms of having the street lights as a priority topic, what are we asking of our

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legislators to do related to that?

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Yes, specifically we were asking for increased funding for state initiatives, specifically

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to the Maryland Energy Administration Street Light and Outdoor Lighting Efficiency Program, acronym SO S-O-L-E,

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which grants LED conversion projects. So the pool of funding is very limited. So if all

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district 22 municipalities wanted to apply and have that light conversion access to that funding,

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we all couldn't support all of our LED conversion. So which specifically asking for that,

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program to funding to increase, given that it's now a year since we asked that in the barriers

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that we're facing is just there isn't a stricter timeline for PEPCOT to follow on this that

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we will we will benefit from the delegates in the senator pushing legislation that there's

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a strict timeline of when the municipalities

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will or expect that they have agreements

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to acquire the light and convert the lights.

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If we so choose, right?

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Because not everyone is going to be in a position

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to acquire the light and manage their own light.

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Have we gotten the money that Pepeca owes us

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from our overpayments yet?

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So I know we have not, and I did not get a commitment

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from them to that they would extend the credits

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that are owe to us, so when we assigned the degree to the inventory

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in the building a year ago last November, the credit that we were always 83,000,

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in March of this year, we had not received the payment and there was no indication

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that we were going to finalize the inventory of lights.

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I put a hold on our payment, on payments to Pepco Streetlights program.

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So I'm probably now on my 7th disconnect notice from Pepco for not paying streetlights

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and I have shared with them that I won't pay it because I'm being put in a situation where I am paying for a bill that I know it's overcharge.

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So I cannot forgive.

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I feel my judiciary duty, a pain bill that I know it's incorrect and they owe the city over $80,000. So that's the position I've taken. They have not disconnected the lights. I don't think they're going to disconnect the lights.

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But we're probably now, we owe, we owe PEPCO for street lights to the tune around $80,000, but they owe us $83. So I think at this point, I think we're probably breaking, breaking even.

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And I know we've got a CPA auditor and the room, and I think Robert might agree with me that it's the right move to pressure them to make a decision.

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Moving the lights. I'm just I'm not asking for anything special. I just want to find a finalizer inventory so that I can pay the proper bill that we should pay and not continue to overpay on a bill.

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I'm just for the record. I think that's a good list of priorities. I agree with changing the if if if we have gotten what we need for like if the grants have been maintained for the police retention and recruitment that doesn't seem like we need to keep asking for that.

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So I think it makes sense to add the the bills related to immigration that's okay for those that makes sense to me.

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Two things. One with the, what are we specifically asking? I made the point that a meeting, I don't know, a couple of months ago, that in addition to looking for funding, I think that we should be asking our Senator and delegates to to advocate for exactly what the board of public utilities or public commissions actually make them aware of this, this hold up and also working advocating for PEPCO.

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to go ahead and set the tariff, set the rates that we can move ahead.

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So it's not just the SOL funding, but it's also, we want them to advocate for us.

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Okay.

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I will write that up as part of our remarks.

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And the other thing is with the street lights, there was a question about responsibility

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between the city, not just ours, but a number of cities and state highway about.

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So were we able to resolve that question about responsibility?

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I think in the past, state highway has been responsible for the lights on state highway.

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No, in the past, there were over 4,000 lights the municipalities have been paying on behalf of state highway administration.

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So the state highway administration is facing some big challenges that they now have to pay for 1,000 lights.

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And that's why they've been pushing back there, something that they had not been budgeting for and the municipalities have been paying for this.

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So, for all the street lights that we disputed, we've been paying for it, we believe that

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stay highway administration should pay for them because they're on state highways.

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So, that's an open question still.

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Well, no, it is not an open question because I have read the regulations and the guidelines

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that the state highway administration has put out.

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It's clear to me that we are not responsible for the lights.

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They want to push the responsibility on to us, but unless Council wants to take them over,

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of my position is that they're not our responsibilities,

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and I have no confusion about that.

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Okay, hey, are there some other comments from Council

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about these shared priorities,

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the structure of these shared priorities

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for the meeting on December 2nd?

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So I'm satisfied with them.

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Do we need the vote on the set for the council meeting?

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I mean, probably.

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This, the joint priorities,

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I don't think you need a vote on what you need a vote

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specifically as what is a unique legislative priority for the city to advocate on.

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And last year, it's part of your packet, what we included in last year's priorities.

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So you have the legislative priorities. You can pick ideally you would pick two to three to

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focus on and that's in keeping with the priorities that Council has submitted to PGCMA and

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in the past. So you would pick two to three legislative priorities that you want the delegates

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in the center to know, and then we pick two up to two bond bill requests. We like to put

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two because we want to give an option, right? We don't want to leave money on the table, so we

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want to get whatever money we can, so we put an option that we really need, but we also put

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option that we know that has brought appeal to the delegates and the senator and they could justify

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infunding. Last year we put the two elevators and we put remind me team we put the two elevators

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and there is another one that we put street lights. We put the PEPCO street lights and we

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funding for just one elevator. And part of our our strategy is we believe that we can

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we can secure the anywhere between a last year, you know, last year based on the funding that

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was available and please remember that there were some budget constraints and they did significant

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cuts last year. We estimated that we can secure the anywhere between 150 to $250,000 for a

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a bond bill money and we secured 200,000 for one elevator. I think this year we're we're

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probably in the same range. So we're we're proposing a couple of things we have the body

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attic park walking trail and stage as a request and we estimate that that's going to be around 250,000

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for the engineering and construction of the sorry the engineering is for the stage and the walkways

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the ADA walkways to the stage and in the construction of the stage.

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For we're also including in there,

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the PEPCO street light upgrade to LED.

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So this will be for the purchase and some funding for its LED conversion of lights.

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Now these are the, and we also included in a list

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the second community center elevator.

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We have a listed right now as 300,000 to account

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for increases in cost, terres have been hitting several of our suppliers and our contractors,

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so we know that the cost is an increased from last year, but we will likely find two in that

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number as we get closer to this emission deadline. So those are the three things that we have

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identified. We obviously welcome Council's feedback on those and the additional items that we

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center gym stage floor to rebuild and replenish the community center stage. We also continue to

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advocate for the addition of the Spring Hill Lake Recreation Center.

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Then what's new this year is the Spring Hill Lake Pocket Park. That is the little pocket part

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that is right between the Greenbelt Middle School and the Dora Kennedy School. It's a

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could drive by and completely miss it, but it's tiny, it's in bad shape. We think it needs

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replacement. The park is primarily on Prince George's County Community Public School,

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so it's not our land, but it is an area that needs needs to be repaired. And the schools don't

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really have money to pay for all the staff that need a little loan to do these capital improvement

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projects. Well, thank you very much. So looking at those bond bill projects, three of them have

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price tags associated with them. I'm wondering Council members do you have any other suggestions,

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things that come to mind that there aren't haven't been brought up previously?

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So I'm pretty comfortable

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going ahead when we talk about the walking trail that is the access from the parking lot down

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to the stage area. So the master the master the body body attic master plan has a walking path from

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the parking lot that's a loop. It starts at the parking lot goes through the inclusive playground down

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to the picnic area and down to the stage and then it comes back on the other side. So that's the

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talking, trial, it's a loop.

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Very good, very good.

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So, and that design and engineering would be,

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would take us to, I don't know, 50% or 60%

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the way that these design and engineering projects

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were beginning to understand it,

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but the different stages that are sort of laid out.

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So, this money would take us half far towards construction.

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So we estimate that the engineering full engineering to get to construction for the trail is going to be around 150,000.

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So then it'll be 200,000 for building the stage.

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And this is the stage, this is, there's a lot of assumptions and unknowns.

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We're not sure what the stage is going to look like entirely.

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We're pricing it on what projects in this surrounding area have cost for four stage outdoor stages.

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The process of designing and building the stage of body attic part will require a lot of community input.

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So it would be something that we would do on partnership with Prab, because they've let the work on doing the body attic master plan.

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So there would be a primary lead on this project because whatever we design needs to be in line with the master plan for body attic.

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Okay, so this sounds like it's going to take us to about 20, 30% design and engineering.

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For the trail, we expect to get to 100%.

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That is whose construction.

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So we want designs that we can go to construction.

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There was another place.

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I don't know if this is too early or not, but should we be considering

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support for what would be in the Indian Creek master plan trail and I know we're just

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we haven't even done our community meetings yet, but with hopefully that there will be

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some type of concept that will come out of it and we will need designs for whatever concept

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is elected and that assuming will also take additional funding to do. Is that possible to add

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that it or is that are we too early on in that process to include that in 2026?

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I think there could be a way that we can frame it. We learned this a bit of the sort of some

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of the strictness of the bond bills through trial and error. You can ask for construction money that

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can include engineering and design, but not just designs without engineering that don't go to construction.

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So, once we have these study, the concepts for the Indian Creek playground and park,

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we could take that on to engineering construction. So, it would fit. We just don't have it in hand.

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But I think we could submit for Indian Creek.

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So, once the consultants done with the project, we would have the concept plan flushed out and it would be a master plan for Indian Creek.

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Yeah, I think that's what I was going to say is I tried to get, I tried to get the consultants

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at the meeting at Springhill Lake, what lots of such a last week, to even give like ballpark

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prices for the different concepts and they weren't even willing to do that. So I think, unfortunately,

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that might be too early to be able to ask to put something in a presentation by December 2nd

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with that even having a, I mean, they, he flatly refused to give, like, even an estimate on the,

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like, the three different concepts they were presenting. So we might have to wait for next year on that one.

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Hey, there's, there's already some assumption regardless of what concept they were already going to go for, right?

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There's going to need to be some type of party. Well, that's true. Regardless of it was set, you know,

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concept 1, 2, and 3. And so if you can assume, make some assumptions on number of parking spaces,

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that would need to be a lot of that's one thing. They also talked about, I think all three of them

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could potentially need to shift the actual trail itself for the parking. Right. So that's regardless

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of what plan is. So thinking about those basic things, if we could, you know, even make some assumptions

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on what that cost would be that could get us further.

417
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:25,560
Yeah.

418
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,320
Yes.

419
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,280
Councilmember, please.

420
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:28,240
Yeah.

421
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:30,140
I don't think it's for this year,

422
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:36,000
but I have spoken with a couple of the county council members

423
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:42,680
about the capital by sure station at the Green Belt Metro and, you know, they seem confident

424
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,440
that, you know, it was in the previous budget system a reason why it couldn't be done this

425
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:46,700
year.

426
00:43:46,700 --> 00:44:00,160
But if it's pushed back again, it would a state bond bill make it more likely for it to be completed because the funding would have been a year mark for that specific project and would be much less fungible.

427
00:44:01,460 --> 00:44:02,840
I don't know that.

428
00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:14,100
I'm sorry I have to to I'm having an internal reaction to the county putting this activity on its budget and not following through.

429
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,840
because there's money in it for it and it's approved.

430
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:25,040
It is a project manager that has the flexibility to decide which location to go for.

431
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:30,020
So I have a personal conflict with that approach of doing business.

432
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:37,880
So now if it was purely like we have a list of projects that far exceeds all of the funding capability.

433
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:44,160
then we are in the ten-year plan just at the bottom of the list, then I can see looking at a

434
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:52,430
turn into funding sources. But I think this particular project, it is, I find it problematic that we have

435
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:59,960
by capital-byteshare stations in the city, but cannot connect back to the point of origin, which is the

436
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:11,660
And that to me is such a simple case to make that if you are getting off the metro and you want to bike to the last mile, you can't get it at the point of where you arrive to the city.

437
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:27,560
And I only bring it up because it is just an oversight that, you know, I'm looking at any avenue that we can to advocate to get this done and because, you know, since I moved to the city, I've been asking what's going to happen.

438
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,280
And it's been pushed back sometimes.

439
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,680
I just want to see if maybe the state could play some role in getting the county to

440
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,740
finally do something but I understand it's not really about the funding.

441
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,740
There's some decision-making process that's getting frozen up somewhere.

442
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,940
Yeah, but I think now we've got to push on our on the county council county

443
00:45:49,940 --> 00:45:57,560
our executive, each is because really it's a county executive oversight function. The executive

444
00:45:58,540 --> 00:46:01,860
oversees the county's transportation direct.

445
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,020
Okay. I'm pretty comfortable with these three

446
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:13,260
council members, please. So are these these top three of the ones that you're prioritizing the

447
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:24,050
are the lights and the communities that are to the stage four is that the in order

448
00:46:24,050 --> 00:46:29,510
of priority, the elevators, the second item, but the one with the highest priority, the

449
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:34,250
issue with the elevator is will they fund that second elevator after funding the first

450
00:46:34,250 --> 00:46:34,610
elevator.

451
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:43,970
So the body attic park, you know, when I've discussed it with our delegates and the

452
00:46:43,970 --> 00:47:00,790
Senator, there's, oh, that's cool that there's a, there's a, a more welcoming stance on those projects, but the, the lights, as you can see, we have this compact competition level or competition, great field of the Trump Hills, but we don't have lights.

453
00:47:00,990 --> 00:47:02,590
We haven't had lights on at them.

454
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:08,210
We'll benefit from adding extending play time at the field by adding lights.

455
00:47:08,210 --> 00:47:15,210
The lights at the basketball court at spring and leg recreation centers worked out well, especially in days like today at six o'clock

456
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:24,820
It was dark kids can play at six o'clock. I don't know that they will play in this cold weather, but so I'm just trying to just I mean have we decided which to

457
00:47:24,820 --> 00:47:26,860
We're presenting. I guess I'm just not there.

458
00:47:28,940 --> 00:47:31,540
Well, no, no, we're discussing it.

459
00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:36,280
I'm comfortable with the three that actually have dollar amounts assigned to them.

460
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:46,380
Okay, I was just to say, you know, my priorities would be the body addict walking trail,

461
00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:54,060
the lights at Toronto Hills or the pocket park, I know we don't have, you know, a dollar

462
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:59,280
amount for the lights, but I wouldn't think that would be too hard to procure, and I know

463
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,300
the pocket park also has some difficulties because I don't know that we can apply for funding

464
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:08,260
for something where we don't already have that use of agreement with PGCPS, and we all on this

465
00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:18,240
I also know how hard it is to get a use agreement with Fiji CPS, so I think that's a, that's, that's a, a hurdle there, but I do think that the light set

466
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:25,820
Toronto's part and the body out of walking trail would have the would benefit the largest number of residents.

467
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:29,160
That's, that's just a night that's my thinking.

468
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,040
and an approach.

469
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,080
Well, and I agree with that, and I also like that that if we were able to include the pocket

470
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:44,580
part as a priority, that gives us one in center east and west, although I agree that the

471
00:48:44,580 --> 00:48:49,120
challenge is of getting a use agreement with PGCPS may make that one less likely, but that

472
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:54,320
would also be if we bring it up this year with the idea that this is sort of floating it

473
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,560
for the first time, and then we might be more likely to get it next year we could work

474
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:03,640
those details, and that also does sales well with, because I think it's the one that's like,

475
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,820
it's close to the school, but it's not the one on the school property, correct? It's yes.

476
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,320
So, but that could ductile nicely with the, when Spring Hill Lake elementary school is floating,

477
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,120
is, is, is, is, is, that's up, they don't, swinging, they say it's, he's floating

478
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,740
what I forget what the term is. Anyway, we're swinging, swinging into a door Kennedy.

479
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,960
The other thing, I think the one reason not to include the Pepco Street, like,

480
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,660
It's like a great, it sounds like that's actually part of our ask for that fund.

481
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:34,720
This seems like sort of asking for the same thing from two different ways.

482
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:40,560
Maybe we want to do that, but I like the Council Member Poppy's three,

483
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,560
not that we expect to get the pocket park funding.

484
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:51,440
But then that puts it on the radar of our legislators so that when we bring it up again next year,

485
00:49:51,860 --> 00:49:53,820
it's already been sort of floated.

486
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:24,460
I would agree about butiatic and I think trauma. A question about trauma in putting in the lights. I'm assuming by putting in lights that also potentially increases the possibility for additional revenue as well because our people who want to utilize that were not residents. Is that how the funding structure is going to work for that.

487
00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:30,280
Yes, it would certainly extend the play time and if we are, if we are renting it out

488
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:37,520
issue permits, which we have seen an increase in applications for organized groups to use that space.

489
00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:45,420
So, yes, I, I, I, I, I paused to say how much revenue it could bring because we have so many

490
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:50,500
recognition groups and so many city groups that want the space and those are not

491
00:50:53,060 --> 00:51:00,500
revenue generator for us. Yeah. And then as far as the pocket park is concerned, I am, I like having

492
00:51:02,540 --> 00:51:12,920
priorities in East West and Center. If the pocket park isn't possibly because we don't have that use agreement in place, and I would love to see if we could come up with

493
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,020
some amount of assumptions for funding needed

494
00:51:15,020 --> 00:51:15,980
for Indian Creek Trail.

495
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:23,250
So to recap, one and two is bodyatic and lights

496
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:26,650
in the pocket park only if it's possible

497
00:51:26,650 --> 00:51:29,970
if not shifted to another priority in Greenbelt West,

498
00:51:30,050 --> 00:51:30,890
which would be in the Creek.

499
00:51:32,410 --> 00:51:32,790
Thank you.

500
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:33,930
Thank you.

501
00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:36,250
But, Calves, remember, Pope?

502
00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:40,230
Yeah, the issue with the pocket park is we don't own it.

503
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:42,690
So, you know, so that's my concern.

504
00:51:42,690 --> 00:51:47,810
that maybe it would be best to work towards getting the agreement first and say, look,

505
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:53,710
you know, give us the agreement, we're fixed it up. And, you know, because I know it

506
00:51:53,710 --> 00:51:57,670
don't have the money for it, like you said, I'm sure it's kind of school system. I don't think,

507
00:51:58,010 --> 00:52:01,990
and now with the French immersion moving out and then I don't know what's going to happen after

508
00:52:01,990 --> 00:52:07,230
we utilize the school for two years temporarily. I don't know what they're going to do with

509
00:52:07,230 --> 00:52:12,370
just school in general. But the walking the buddy at a walking trail,

510
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:16,830
I was quite happy with the

511
00:52:16,830 --> 00:52:22,330
three items that had a dollar amounts next to it. But I would go with the lights at Trump

512
00:52:22,330 --> 00:52:29,850
Hills Park because I think that makes sense as well. Council member, please. But it'd be possible

513
00:52:29,850 --> 00:52:36,830
to between now and sorry we're voting on are we voting on these three tonight or

514
00:52:36,830 --> 00:52:41,570
not we're not voting for organizations but for a vote would we be able to contact

515
00:52:41,570 --> 00:52:50,910
and PGC this will system PGCPS about the park because you know I don't want the money to sit

516
00:52:52,350 --> 00:52:57,690
you know if they're not going to move on it so at least see a gauge initial interest

517
00:52:58,530 --> 00:53:02,910
in working together if we were to secure the funding because otherwise I do hear

518
00:53:02,910 --> 00:53:06,970
there's interest in other and other things that we could be doing in the next year.

519
00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:13,830
I just don't think you're going to get an answer back in time. It will take a while for

520
00:53:13,830 --> 00:53:21,690
so many. Because we should decide and vote on it on Monday, give it the time friend. I have

521
00:53:21,690 --> 00:53:27,130
two concerns, one, with the lights that Trump

522
00:53:27,130 --> 00:53:31,330
hills park, I would be really hesitant to put that forward

523
00:53:31,330 --> 00:53:34,750
without talking to the homeowners associations.

524
00:53:35,410 --> 00:53:38,030
On the way to the Lake's, the Green Belt Village, Green

525
00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:43,170
Brook Village, the states, because when the lights that are

526
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:45,910
there now, when in there was a lot of feedback.

527
00:53:47,770 --> 00:53:51,130
So, people are cautious about, you know, be great if we did

528
00:53:51,130 --> 00:53:54,610
to get the funding, but we need to talk with residents.

529
00:53:56,570 --> 00:54:00,310
Another thing has to do with the approvals in general.

530
00:54:00,650 --> 00:54:04,590
We did quite well last year in getting the funding for the elevator.

531
00:54:05,330 --> 00:54:10,010
Other municipalities didn't get quite as much funding for any funding at all.

532
00:54:11,170 --> 00:54:15,050
So I'm just wondering, one of the criteria for these bond bills

533
00:54:15,050 --> 00:54:18,930
is you have to complete the work in a certain amount of time.

534
00:54:18,930 --> 00:54:23,210
So I'm just wondering how, how we're coming along with spending the money,

535
00:54:23,210 --> 00:54:24,690
particularly for the movie theater.

536
00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:30,990
Movie theater, we, as you know, we've gone back and forth on

537
00:54:30,990 --> 00:54:36,250
the bathrooms, the windows, like the entire building and everything in it is

538
00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:38,410
is part of the historical record of the building.

539
00:54:38,990 --> 00:54:42,830
So that being a historical side requires extra approval.

540
00:54:43,550 --> 00:54:48,110
So the toilet that we purchased to replace had to be approved by

541
00:54:48,110 --> 00:54:51,150
the historic trust, Marla, historic trust.

542
00:54:51,970 --> 00:54:55,730
We've got approval on tentative approval on the marquee recently.

543
00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:57,730
I think we should have with Council.

544
00:54:58,330 --> 00:55:01,610
The marquee, the windows, no.

545
00:55:02,010 --> 00:55:06,630
On the way to the tent, do you want to talk about that one?

546
00:55:11,860 --> 00:55:12,300
No, I think it's on.

547
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,120
Is it on?

548
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:19,880
There it is.

549
00:55:20,780 --> 00:55:25,660
So we have general approval on almost everything interior.

550
00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:33,180
So, the lighting that we want to do, the work on the floor, the carpet, the concessions

551
00:55:33,180 --> 00:55:38,320
to end all those things, strangely enough, the windows themselves, they want us to have

552
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:44,740
a historical architect remediation, do them historically, they can't just replace the windows.

553
00:55:45,580 --> 00:55:49,000
Even the mural, I think, is getting approval, that's on the outside.

554
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,640
So most of it, I'd say probably 80% of the projects have received MHC approval, and

555
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:04,000
And our public works department is working with Caitlin and the and the cinema to schedule that.

556
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:10,960
One of the big concerns you can imagine is we don't want to take the main auditorium offline during their busy season.

557
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,220
So the thought would be to do some of the smaller projects.

558
00:56:15,340 --> 00:56:23,280
The TV screens, the concession set of the things now and probably wait until spring or when they have kind of a downs.

559
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:30,240
The lowest occupancy time for the theater to do the forks. Once we do the lights,

560
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,360
we're putting new lighting and the ceiling, but once the lights and the forks are going to be done,

561
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,200
the seats have to come out and obviously you can't do movies without seats.

562
00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:46,320
So the thought is we want Mr. Kim is working with Caitlin to kind of bundle all of those projects together.

563
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:51,700
Once we take it out, we're going to do the floor, the carpet, the lights,

564
00:56:52,180 --> 00:57:00,060
Everything's going to happen all at once and Katelyn is kind of working with her team to decide what is kind of the lowest volume of

565
00:57:00,060 --> 00:57:01,520
usage of the theater

566
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:03,780
So we'll time it then

567
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:12,640
We have five to seven years to spend the money so we're not in this I mean we want to get done and the more bond boom money

568
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,960
We have outstanding the more the more the more difficult it is get more more money

569
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,360
That's why I bring you up can know that it's not you know

570
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,860
Senator and delegates can put, put, put, request forward, but the other senators and delegates

571
00:57:24,860 --> 00:57:27,160
basically to look at how much is outstanding.

572
00:57:27,620 --> 00:57:31,160
And the key, the key they want to see without standing is that you're, is that you're working

573
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:31,860
the projects.

574
00:57:32,500 --> 00:57:36,940
So the good news is we're working all the projects, especially with, well, moderate trail kind

575
00:57:36,940 --> 00:57:37,540
of opening up.

576
00:57:37,540 --> 00:57:41,220
We are spending that money now, which is what they're looking for.

577
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,820
So really, the bulk of the projects are underway.

578
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,260
The marquee was a huge hurdle, and that's going to go forward, which is great.

579
00:57:48,260 --> 00:57:57,260
We do need to do some additional engineering work that we're not planned on because MHG wants to make absolutely sure that the current structure of the marquee

580
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,280
is strong after hold the LED.

581
00:58:01,220 --> 00:58:05,380
The vendor doesn't think that's a problem because the LED display is nice and light.

582
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:08,880
However, MHG wants to be cautious and they want to make sure.

583
00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:11,960
And they like, you know, thank you to your things for your own way.

584
00:58:12,780 --> 00:58:16,280
I think ironically, the thing that's going to take us the longest

585
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:22,380
are the toilets and the windows because they want those to be architecturally and historically

586
00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:25,980
accurate and it's hard to find historical accurate toilet.

587
00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:30,820
So, but otherwise, that project is moving on great.

588
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,700
Mr. Kim and Desvin are doing a great job working together and kind of staging those projects

589
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:42,280
to get them done as quickly as we can, but with as little disruption for the cinemas

590
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,380
activities as possible.

591
00:58:43,380 --> 00:58:52,000
Okay, so long story short we've got the Metro Connecting Trail funding bond bill money is still outstanding.

592
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,800
We've got movie theater and the elevator, so those three.

593
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,880
We have more, so the elevator that was already approved by the Board of Public Works.

594
00:58:59,980 --> 00:59:08,340
So we have submitted that contract for preapproval by the State General Service Department of General Service.

595
00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:12,860
Once they approve that contract, it comes back to Council for approval.

596
00:59:12,860 --> 00:59:14,800
we wouldn't have Council approve a contract

597
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,360
or last General Service has approved for us to move forward.

598
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:22,040
Because otherwise, we would have to come back to Council

599
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,860
if we have Council approve a contract that General Service doesn't approve.

600
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,320
So we get their blessing then it comes to Council.

601
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,580
So as soon as we get that approval from General Service,

602
00:59:31,180 --> 00:59:32,620
we'll bring that contract to Council

603
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,400
and the Mr. Kim and the team will move that

604
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,220
expeditively on replacing that elevator.

605
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:59,700
The electric vehicle supply equipment projects, we have board of public works, have approved the funding, we have submitted these two EV stations for approval of general service. They approved it and that is why we now have two EV stations are here at the municipal building. So that's funded by

606
01:00:01,660 --> 01:00:13,620
The museum we have received approved from the Board of Public Works for that project, we have not gone to the general service for approval of our work yet, but that is also moving.

607
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,800
But he had a playground that project is completed and it's entirety, so we've closed that up.

608
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:26,480
So that is all the bill bond projects that have been funded going back to 2018.

609
01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:31,460
So, and the Clean Belt Station, Connecting Trail, do we have?

610
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,240
That's the one I'd better try that you were talking about.

611
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,900
Okay, so I don't want to temper everybody's expectations too much.

612
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,900
But we've been very successful in the past, but we have a lot of outstanding projects.

613
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,900
I think we all agree on the buddy attic walking trail.

614
01:00:48,980 --> 01:00:51,900
But we should submit to three ideas.

615
01:00:53,140 --> 01:00:55,900
I'm going to pretend I'll go for some public input.

616
01:00:56,660 --> 01:01:02,200
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure to make sure because I think I know which playground.

617
01:01:02,460 --> 01:01:04,420
Is it this one up here? This breeze would drive.

618
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,980
It's that one, not the one right by the school or is it the one that's.

619
01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:10,300
I feel like we talked about both of those.

620
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,160
No, go a little bit.

621
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,360
That would be east.

622
01:01:14,860 --> 01:01:17,440
Go down, go down to where kind of worth.

623
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:18,500
We're kind of worth it.

624
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,060
So it's.

625
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:28,200
Go up to Breezewood, it's rise at the crosswalk before you get to the stops, it's intersection of Breezewood and Kennawood.

626
01:01:29,860 --> 01:01:34,900
Yeah, right there. Breezewood and Emma's stuff. It says it right there, Breezewood Drive play.

627
01:01:34,900 --> 01:01:36,060
Okay, so it's up.

628
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:36,180
So it's up.

629
01:01:37,820 --> 01:01:40,100
But so then that's the middle school.

630
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:41,300
Look at all those nice little people.

631
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:41,940
I know.

632
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,780
That's the part of this property is PDCPS property, then that's the issue.

633
01:01:47,780 --> 01:02:00,420
Okay, it's all of the property on the action. Yeah, it's almost. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that I was understanding which playground if you drop you a little, you're little, you know, yeah, I guess you can take a look at it.

634
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:20,780
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I've been there forever. So I moved to a 998 of playing the little pocket playground was already there. And I don't think anything has changed. It looks like what two swings and a slide. Yeah, so yeah.

635
01:02:21,580 --> 01:02:26,480
that's that could use some improvement. Yeah in a no folks are concerned that if we don't have a

636
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:34,960
use agreement in place that it may, it may stall things. I think that with the, I'm a believer

637
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,920
that if you're not going to get it done, move out of the way. And I think that some of the folks that

638
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,720
work with Dr. Joseph have that mindset.

639
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,480
I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic. I have to be right. I have to

640
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,740
Okay. Let's see. Yes, please.

641
01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:14,720
One other question. I'm just recalling and I can't remember the actual name of the study where we were talking about bus stops and improving those and there were only a certain amount that we could do to make more accessible and things like that.

642
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:26,820
And I know that we only had a certain amount built in our budget, but that would be a considerable amount that we would need to make lighting as well as the accessibility of them.

643
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:39,640
Is that something that raises to the level of being something that would go for bond and I'm just thinking of the impact across the city, how many people would be benefiting from that as well.

644
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,720
Just to thought I don't know if that was part of the consideration.

645
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:49,160
I like that idea. I think we're only able to innovate either one or two or bus stops each year.

646
01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:56,280
We did fund a lot of the improvements through ARPA, so I thought that we were taking care of most of it through ARPA.

647
01:03:58,420 --> 01:04:05,880
Yeah, but I would double check with Terry Rubey, Ruby, to see what we couldn't get to another.

648
01:04:07,420 --> 01:04:10,740
Okay, let's see, I believe in the storelings.

649
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:23,150
Yes, thank you.

650
01:04:23,810 --> 01:04:30,250
I would think that the decision to place a capital bike share station anywhere would

651
01:04:30,250 --> 01:04:34,190
be that of capital bike share, which, unfortunately, is not part of a model.

652
01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:36,450
I think it should be, but it's not.

653
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:41,970
As has been pointed out to Council in the past, the instrument for influencing

654
01:04:41,970 --> 01:04:48,570
will modest board is the Washington suburban transit commission. Two members of which represent

655
01:04:48,570 --> 01:04:55,430
Prince George's county. Council member Eric Olsen, the new county executive has yet to

656
01:04:55,430 --> 01:05:02,790
make an appointment to fill her designated appointees position on the commission. But nonetheless,

657
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:08,370
one of the members of the Washington suburban transit commission is also the primary

658
01:05:09,550 --> 01:05:18,390
a voting member of Audembourg, to the extent that the Audembourg would be involved, and that

659
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:25,210
could be certainly in locating, in citing a capital bike station, a green boat station,

660
01:05:26,330 --> 01:05:32,710
Council should appeal to both Councilmember Olsen and the county executive to raise the question

661
01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:40,510
with the commission which directs all state and county money to Wemara to bring about that

662
01:05:40,510 --> 01:05:45,050
desire of solution. I certainly agree it would be a desirable solution. I have another question

663
01:05:45,050 --> 01:05:49,710
on an earlier subject matter. Do I understand that Greenbelt is the only municipality it was

664
01:05:49,710 --> 01:05:50,850
over charged by Pucco?

665
01:05:54,980 --> 01:05:59,180
I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I know I'm aware of

666
01:05:59,180 --> 01:06:04,080
some at least two municipalities that have been paying for the lives that they do not

667
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,940
or should be paying for? I would not have thought so either. I apologize that was partly a rhetorical

668
01:06:08,940 --> 01:06:17,460
person, but pepco doesn't make anything but profit. It doesn't generate its parents do, but it

669
01:06:17,460 --> 01:06:23,240
does generates no electricity, which it distributes what I might argue for at an excess profit

670
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,440
in this area. It would seem to me that it's appropriate for a green belt and other

671
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:34,140
of county municipalities and other municipalities in PEPCO's jurisdiction, delivery jurisdiction

672
01:06:34,140 --> 01:06:41,140
area to consider getting rid of PEPCO altogether and forming our own distribution network

673
01:06:41,140 --> 01:06:47,380
that could just as PEPCO does secure its power from excellent or other sources.

674
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,020
I would like Council to raise that as a priority.

675
01:06:50,500 --> 01:06:51,100
Thank you.

676
01:06:52,940 --> 01:06:54,160
Thank you very much.

677
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:56,240
Let's see, sir.

678
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:57,020
Anybody on one?

679
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,320
There are no hands up online.

680
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,180
Okay, is there any further discussion?

681
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,520
Yeah, please count some number, please.

682
01:07:09,860 --> 01:07:13,800
Mr. Someron, number five, the Spring Hill Lake Recreation Center

683
01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:17,740
edition, which I know is something I've talked to you about a lot.

684
01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:20,900
So, your mark fiscal year 26.

685
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,700
So, we're going to see that when we talk about earmarks.

686
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,220
Is that what you're telling me here?

687
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,560
Just trying to see if that's what that means?

688
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:33,020
Or in paper, that's exactly what it means.

689
01:07:33,380 --> 01:07:37,200
We went through the Yermark process and our federal delegates

690
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,680
endorsed it and submitted through the committee.

691
01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:41,560
And then,

692
01:07:42,380 --> 01:07:48,140
we're still operating on a fiscal 24 or 25 budget in the continuing

693
01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:48,760
resolution.

694
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,120
That's not even continuing.

695
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,040
I think it's 24.

696
01:07:51,260 --> 01:07:52,160
I think it might be 24.

697
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,600
So I think that's the problem.

698
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,640
It's in a budget that never got passed.

699
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:08,040
And just for background last year, in the 24 budget, we did receive approval by the committee for funding for the youth center.

700
01:08:09,380 --> 01:08:19,040
And then all of that, those recommendations just basically became null and void due to funding issues, which is unfortunate.

701
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:24,380
You know that we put all this effort or federal delegations put all this effort to fight for these things in the committee.

702
01:08:24,380 --> 01:08:32,320
the committee has an agreement for an appropriations bill and then it just doesn't go anywhere.

703
01:08:33,380 --> 01:08:38,060
So it's our money. Yeah, it's all of our money. It's all of our money. It's all of our

704
01:08:38,060 --> 01:08:38,060
money.

705
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:45,810
I would like to put forward.

706
01:08:46,330 --> 01:08:55,170
I would like to put forward.

707
01:08:55,170 --> 01:09:03,670
rights or electronic signs with the bus information posted at bus stops throughout the city.

708
01:09:04,050 --> 01:09:10,670
Can we research the cost of doing that, pop with Ms. Ruby and look at the schedule and maybe look ahead.

709
01:09:10,790 --> 01:09:21,450
I know we've made some improvements, but the issue of the electronic signs at bus stops that tell you when the next bus stop bus is coming.

710
01:09:21,450 --> 01:09:25,290
I believe we have them in the center, and that's the only location in the city.

711
01:09:25,630 --> 01:09:26,670
We have those.

712
01:09:26,750 --> 01:09:33,050
The model was not willing to fund those for us, and it would really be very, very helpful for our residents and visitors to

713
01:09:33,050 --> 01:09:36,810
Greenbelt to be able to look and see when the next bus is coming.

714
01:09:38,190 --> 01:09:42,990
I would check with Mr. Ruby to see what ADA improvements were not funded through the ARPA.

715
01:09:43,570 --> 01:09:49,270
I would I would I would think that castle from what I'm hearing is your priority is the ADA bus stop standard,

716
01:09:49,270 --> 01:09:54,070
which is filling out the concrete pad for the bus to be able to drop the lift into it.

717
01:09:54,890 --> 01:10:00,030
The shelters, we can't do shelters everywhere because there just isn't enough public right

718
01:10:00,030 --> 01:10:06,910
away to do shelters. So I know that the team had had identified all the areas that were conducive

719
01:10:06,910 --> 01:10:19,250
for shelters and we just can't place them in all the locations that we want to. So I know the

720
01:10:19,250 --> 01:10:23,370
the benches. And we put the benches. We took care of all the benches that we had identified.

721
01:10:23,850 --> 01:10:27,770
So we did that through ARPA, but I'll see what else is yet to be funded.

722
01:10:28,230 --> 01:10:33,850
The signage that you're referencing a company or going places where shelters exist,

723
01:10:34,250 --> 01:10:41,490
where you could put a solar panel, and the digital board. So the location must have a shelter for

724
01:10:41,490 --> 01:10:47,830
that to go to place. There are other alternatives, but I don't know that our community has

725
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:55,810
those and those are the clear channel, yes. I understood that those were not,

726
01:10:55,810 --> 01:11:02,310
well, we're not favorably received by various councils, but but I do think that we if it's possible

727
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:09,630
to accelerate the the maintenance and accessibility improvements to the bus stops that we have

728
01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:13,970
because there's a replacement schedule, we can accelerate that with some bond funding, I think that

729
01:11:13,970 --> 01:11:22,210
good use and just the basic digital signs, not the wall, but solar panel and signage, or electronic

730
01:11:22,210 --> 01:11:26,690
signage, let you know when the next bus is coming. That would be really helpful, really meaningful to

731
01:11:26,690 --> 01:11:28,750
so many people. I can't remember, Pope.

732
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:37,250
I think we need to communicate. Why we're not putting these nice bus cuts everywhere, because I

733
01:11:37,250 --> 01:11:43,630
had quite a few inquiries from Green Meldies during the election time. Why we get why they're

734
01:11:43,630 --> 01:11:56,630
adventures and not getting these nice little wooden houses, you know, like we have on some of the other places and I tried to explain it, but I think it's it needs to be communicated because they they are feeling left out.

735
01:11:58,110 --> 01:12:02,910
I welcome feedback. I know we presented it to council. We presented these reports or on our website.

736
01:12:03,730 --> 01:12:13,410
And I know there are folks that feel left out, but the information is readily available and we are very transparent about where we put benches where we put shelters.

737
01:12:15,290 --> 01:12:17,410
Okay, we do need to move forward.

738
01:12:17,690 --> 01:12:19,150
Yeah, just a quick comment on that.

739
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:27,670
And I realize this would take time, but I'm thinking about some of the, I think it was a city of high school has like project update pages,

740
01:12:27,670 --> 01:12:57,050
But even if there were a way to, like, get a map posted on the city website with the, with the, with the bus stops where you could click on the bus stop, like, if you ask map, but RTA is or something, click on the bus stops see what it has, what, what we would like to have there, or if we can't have a bus stop, like no shelter can be put here because we don't have enough right away, but I think that, that something like that would make the information much more readily accessible to residents about accessibility.

741
01:12:57,670 --> 01:13:01,130
because they could just go and look at the bus stop they're interested in and click and see.

742
01:13:01,330 --> 01:13:08,430
And I recognize there's, you know, that takes the information exists. It's a question of compiling it into that format.

743
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:11,070
But that could help with some of those questions.

744
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:17,770
Okay, okay. I really would like to move ahead. Mr. O'Lean says another comment.

745
01:13:27,250 --> 01:13:32,190
You, I of course can't know where there's insufficient public right away for a bus shelter,

746
01:13:32,190 --> 01:13:39,050
but where there is insufficient public right of way for a bus shelter and some private entity owns

747
01:13:39,050 --> 01:13:45,050
theoretically owns holds titled to that ground. The city, if it wanted to be inclusive and

748
01:13:45,050 --> 01:13:49,550
make its bus shelters accessible and safer than they are now and more convenient for riders,

749
01:13:50,230 --> 01:13:54,030
it could win an easement from those private sectors and we should be about doing so.

750
01:13:54,370 --> 01:14:00,530
And just so that I may know, since I don't know, I'd be interested in seeing a list of all the

751
01:14:00,530 --> 01:14:04,710
existing bus stops in Greenbelt where there is no shelter and where it's been determined

752
01:14:04,710 --> 01:14:09,590
there's insufficient right away to construct one. I'll be inquiring about that at a later

753
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:16,950
time. Thank you. Okay, okay. So here's the list that I have more

754
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:24,950
lesson listening closely. You know the buddy at a walking trail and path stage funding with $350,000

755
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:27,430
is that's something we all agree on.

756
01:14:27,490 --> 01:14:28,670
Lights at Trump, he'll park.

757
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:31,190
I really feel like we need to touch base

758
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:34,690
with the homeowner's associations in the area.

759
01:14:34,910 --> 01:14:39,950
I mean, it's a great idea, but we need to have their buy-in.

760
01:14:40,430 --> 01:14:44,790
With the community center gym and stage floor,

761
01:14:46,050 --> 01:14:49,130
there's no dollar amount attached to that.

762
01:14:49,730 --> 01:14:53,610
But and Pepeco's street lights upgrade a couple of council members

763
01:14:53,610 --> 01:14:59,970
I've said that they think that it's not the right time to do that and there's too many issues going on.

764
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,280
There, the elevator, but the Springhail Lake Pocket Park seem to have a great deal of support in one of my missing

765
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:08,600
report.

766
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:15,820
Well, I think the ones that we sort of added for consideration were the idea just now of the accessibility

767
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:24,240
of the bus shelters and then the idea of asking for funding for at least a portion of the

768
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:29,540
things we know we would need at the Indian Creek Master Plan, even if we don't know what the final

769
01:15:29,540 --> 01:15:45,860
And we'll look like it. Okay, so it seemed like they do that we added. So if staff can do some additional research and the present, the ideas at the meeting perhaps we can think about these and they're all down and perhaps you can get back to us and let us know if some of these suggestions are not feasible.

770
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:54,760
I will, the bus tops is going to be relatively easier. The Indian Creek. I think it's a little more more.

771
01:15:54,760 --> 01:16:00,120
more work, need to know what the pricing will be to get a close estimate. I have a question

772
01:16:01,180 --> 01:16:07,400
about the Spring Hill Lake. Sorry, the lights are strong here. You want us to get buy-in

773
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:13,300
from the HOA before we consider the lights. I will be concerned about that because there's

774
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:16,440
always going to be somebody that's going to be against the lights. There were people that were

775
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:22,420
against the lights for at the Spring Hill Lake Recreation Center. And when those lights went on,

776
01:16:22,420 --> 01:16:24,760
I have received zero complaints for the lights.

777
01:16:25,980 --> 01:16:29,040
And so I think it's, I would like to vision,

778
01:16:29,380 --> 01:16:31,800
revisit the conversation about vision and values,

779
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,780
would we want a recreational access to be?

780
01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:37,540
I just think that discussion needs to take place.

781
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,740
Another example where that discussion

782
01:16:40,740 --> 01:16:43,420
has come up is a light-set McDonald field.

783
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,080
And clearly, we've heard from GHI, the residents there

784
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,880
that they are ambivalent or against the idea

785
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:50,960
of having lights there.

786
01:16:50,960 --> 01:17:08,460
So, you know, it's a little bit of a hot button topic, and I just think for us to ask for funding for that, without broaching the idea, somehow we're telling the homeowners associations in the area, hey, this is going for money for this, I think that's a bad move.

787
01:17:08,980 --> 01:17:12,080
Okay, but I've heard from council that this is something that you're interested in.

788
01:17:12,380 --> 01:17:13,720
So, if you're not, then let me know it.

789
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,640
I would be interested in including that on the list.

790
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,780
I think that we can work to get the buy-in from the homeowners.

791
01:17:19,780 --> 01:17:23,320
Yes, and I have had my hand up about this specific topic.

792
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:24,020
I'm sorry.

793
01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:24,780
No, that's okay.

794
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:25,360
Thank you.

795
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,320
May I please?

796
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:26,760
Please, go ahead.

797
01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:27,660
Thank you.

798
01:17:28,460 --> 01:17:34,320
I absolutely share that concern, and I looking at a map and looking at how close spring

799
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,640
the Spring Hill Lake lights are to the apartments compared to how close the Schromhill

800
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,900
lights would be to any sort of development.

801
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,100
It's very apples and oranges.

802
01:17:44,980 --> 01:17:50,460
I would very much like pricing for what those lights would be especially considering that we already

803
01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:54,620
have a proven use of solar powered lights within the city.

804
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:58,370
Okay, Ms. Cole?

805
01:17:59,550 --> 01:18:04,050
I just think we should keep it on the radar and we should at least try to get some funding.

806
01:18:04,270 --> 01:18:06,110
I mean, who knows if we're going to get it, right?

807
01:18:06,170 --> 01:18:15,570
But we can also talk to the HOAs, but we can work on both simultaneously the same time.

808
01:18:16,130 --> 01:18:20,690
So I would like to ask for the funding as well.

809
01:18:22,180 --> 01:18:24,040
Fair enough, fair enough.

810
01:18:25,780 --> 01:18:27,400
Just put a pin in that.

811
01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:34,940
I know there's been a lot of discussion about McDonald field right here in the center and actually putting lights up at the

812
01:18:34,940 --> 01:18:39,000
Butalee can not play their games a little bit later into the games.

813
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:43,630
Well, let's go ahead.

814
01:18:43,850 --> 01:18:44,330
I'm sorry.

815
01:18:44,710 --> 01:18:45,090
Councilman.

816
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:48,690
These will come to the council for a vote on Mondays.

817
01:18:48,690 --> 01:18:53,690
Yes, correct. Yeah, correct. And just to general sense, I'm getting it's this buddy at

818
01:18:53,690 --> 01:19:01,070
stage. That's that's a high priority for folks. I've heard from the lights at Trump

819
01:19:01,070 --> 01:19:07,770
Hill Park, the pocket park, the gym stage, and we're adding the bus stops accessibility issues

820
01:19:07,770 --> 01:19:14,050
in in New Creek. Those are the favorite ones. Right. Right. And let me just read on the bus

821
01:19:14,050 --> 01:19:20,050
not just the accessibility, but the idea of these signs, which would tell people when

822
01:19:20,050 --> 01:19:24,950
the solar panel signed to tell people when the next bus is coming, that would really help a lot of people.

823
01:19:25,190 --> 01:19:27,470
Right, and that would be contingent on there being a shelter.

824
01:19:27,670 --> 01:19:30,630
A shelter that is possible, but there's a shelter there.

825
01:19:31,010 --> 01:19:32,630
Right. I just don't want to leave that.

826
01:19:32,670 --> 01:19:37,970
No, no, no, right. Right. But if there's no shelter that can go in that place, there's no signage that can go in there.

827
01:19:38,670 --> 01:19:41,730
Okay, and then the other one is, I think the community center,

828
01:19:41,730 --> 01:19:48,370
the second elevator is there. We know we need it. But I'm thinking we should only put forward

829
01:19:48,370 --> 01:19:56,120
two maybe three of these suggestions. Hammer that on the right meeting coming up. Please go ahead.

830
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:05,070
Okay. Can I? Yes, please. And you may remember that. I mean, the Schromhill of the

831
01:20:05,660 --> 01:20:12,100
body-edic park stage. Wasn't there someone interested in donating some money towards a stage at

832
01:20:12,100 --> 01:20:16,980
point. I mean, it's quite a few years ago, I know, and Jay Davis has brought it up in the meantime,

833
01:20:17,580 --> 01:20:23,620
a few times. I can't recall the name. Yeah, it was a Leona, Leona, Leona, and Jenny. Penny, as I said,

834
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:31,680
had made some provisions, perhaps made some provisions in a will, and her son, who is still

835
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:38,400
we around, I know some people who know him. I wonder if we could maybe reach out, and I think Mike

836
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,820
I don't think we've ever really followed up properly.

837
01:20:43,480 --> 01:20:44,400
We have followed up.

838
01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:44,960
Staff of Philadelphia.

839
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:45,520
Yes.

840
01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:48,260
We have two families that have expressed interest in the

841
01:20:48,260 --> 01:20:49,480
contributing to the projects.

842
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,340
They're not the tune of 250,000 I don't need, but they'll

843
01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:54,520
contribute something to the challenge.

844
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,720
We were facing internally as that.

845
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:04,500
They were like naming rights and we don't have a policy that

846
01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:07,580
addresses naming rights just on the

847
01:21:07,580 --> 01:21:14,280
just preliminarily, I think if someone's paying for an entire project to the 250,000, I think

848
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:19,420
that's worth consideration of a naming rights of a stage. But if it's $10,000 for something that

849
01:21:19,420 --> 01:21:26,700
costs 250,000, I think that's a bit of a big ass. I agree. I mean, there are various ways that you

850
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:33,080
can go about acknowledging support for philanthropic support for projects such as donor tiles or

851
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,960
It's just a number of ways that you can do it without naming the whole thing after.

852
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:43,760
We just need to have policy, we've got a little bit of policy, but it needs to be more

853
01:21:44,380 --> 01:21:44,820
specific.

854
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:51,540
But yes, if there are private resources that can go towards doing things like this, we should

855
01:21:51,540 --> 01:21:53,360
certainly seek them out in polypure.

856
01:21:53,940 --> 01:21:55,240
But you share that policy.

857
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,980
You say there's a policy for naming?

858
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:03,000
Well, I mean, there's a policy for on the trees and benches and the plants.

859
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:10,080
But those are paid by those individuals, yes, but but the idea is there a policy another policy about naming

860
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,260
There's no structure.

861
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,000
We talked about it.

862
01:22:13,460 --> 01:22:17,500
Yeah, but we could certainly look at that.

863
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:17,800
Okay.

864
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:28,900
Well, we welcome the idea of this cemetery, the own wall that was sort of tied up with the idea of using private dollars to do different things.

865
01:22:28,900 --> 01:22:33,460
So when it suggests that we have a donor tree or something in the building, there's one down

866
01:22:33,460 --> 01:22:33,840
stairs.

867
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,220
There used to be one wall.

868
01:22:37,860 --> 01:22:37,920
Hey.

869
01:22:38,900 --> 01:22:42,980
Well, Jay Davis is online, she confirms Bernard Penny, which we'd already come to, and then

870
01:22:42,980 --> 01:22:46,220
suggest a plaque acknowledging donors, maybe rather than naming right.

871
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:47,980
Okay.

872
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,620
Hey, let's go ahead and move on.

873
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:56,260
Let's talk a little bit about scheduling the legislative piece since we've been talking

874
01:22:56,260 --> 01:23:01,160
about legislative priorities and trying to kind of clush things out.

875
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:07,100
This question about legislative support is something that is on the agenda.

876
01:23:08,540 --> 01:23:16,140
And, you know, we have been able to work with our legislative contractor.

877
01:23:16,140 --> 01:23:45,540
Mr. Carrington has been two years now, one year. So prior to that, Council did most all of the legislative advocacy on behalf of the city with the support of the Assistant City Manager and after many years of request to actually set aside funding to hire a

878
01:23:45,540 --> 01:23:53,140
a contractor to assist us with that. We've done that for the first time with results just in

879
01:23:53,140 --> 01:24:00,360
terms of the amount of information that we're getting, the format of the information and the

880
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:08,260
interaction between the contractor and council. So Mr. Sumerone put together a survey with Mr. George

881
01:24:08,260 --> 01:24:23,700
And I asked us all for some feedback and the survey was not comprehensive, but I think it gets to the core of the question of how we should proceed during this legislative session, which is coming up really really fast.

882
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,060
And the results, we've got five responses.

883
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:38,580
five out of seven. Okay. And so the consensus from those five results was that we should

884
01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:47,160
go with a multi-vendor approach instead of just using one contractor perhaps working with others

885
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:55,520
as well. 60% favored a multi-provider model. That's three out of five. Put that up on the screen

886
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:56,520
if you like.

887
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:01,420
So do you want the

888
01:25:02,020 --> 01:25:02,540
Omena?

889
01:25:04,660 --> 01:25:11,160
Do you want me to go over the responses, Mr.

890
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,240
Mark? Sure. If you can

891
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,160
concisely and quickly kind of

892
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,040
sure, I'll cover the highlights.

893
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,900
Generally, very positive feedback on

894
01:25:19,900 --> 01:25:21,600
how satisfying people were. I think

895
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,020
the clarity of the communication

896
01:25:23,020 --> 01:25:24,800
is an item that we would dress with

897
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,600
any future contractor. But overall

898
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,560
the professionalism of the staff and the accessibility

899
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:35,440
information, responsibilities, and transparency

900
01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:38,000
with the legislative process or high.

901
01:25:38,500 --> 01:25:42,040
Going down to question number two, which approach do you

902
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,280
believe will be best served?

903
01:25:43,300 --> 01:25:45,940
Would best serve the city's legislative advocacy

904
01:25:45,940 --> 01:25:46,480
needs?

905
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,020
60% which is three out of five, respond

906
01:25:50,020 --> 01:25:53,580
that at a multi-provider model would best serve the city.

907
01:25:53,580 --> 01:26:04,180
20% which is one out of five is a new provider to do the entire scope of work and 20% a combination of both approaches.

908
01:26:05,900 --> 01:26:17,280
Moving on to question number three, the preference from folks to receive communication about legislative matters is emails followed by text message followed by website and final phone.

909
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,220
On question number four, how often do you want to receive information?

910
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:27,140
The majority response is favored weekly at three to three out of five.

911
01:26:27,340 --> 01:26:33,000
Monthly is one out of five, and as needed for council input and action is one out of five.

912
01:26:33,420 --> 01:26:37,740
Question number five is what legislative matters do you want to receive information on.

913
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:41,060
Number one choice was state-of-green bill priority legislation.

914
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,940
Number two is tied with three different areas.

915
01:26:44,940 --> 01:26:51,760
that's MML Priority Legislation, PGCMA Priority Legislation in four consultant recommended legislation,

916
01:26:52,460 --> 01:26:58,840
only one person wants to receive updates on all state legislation and one person selected other.

917
01:26:59,340 --> 01:27:04,760
Question number six, what are your legislative priorities? The number one choice was economic

918
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:10,420
development followed by public safety with four out of five, then we've had a couple of

919
01:27:10,420 --> 01:27:16,260
housing attainability, environmental sustainability, transportation, all of those where three out of five responses,

920
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,540
healthcare at two out of five and other is one.

921
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:26,420
Number seven was a more narrative responses.

922
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:32,600
What question is, is the current legislative tracking workship and effective tool?

923
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:37,120
the majority responses that know and need some improvement.

924
01:27:38,140 --> 01:27:40,700
Number eight is, is our current legislative contract

925
01:27:40,700 --> 01:27:42,060
that providing adequate guidance.

926
01:27:43,220 --> 01:27:47,820
The feedback we receive is the folks that have four responses

927
01:27:47,820 --> 01:27:51,720
were generally around improving the clear communication

928
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,840
and alignment with Greenville priorities.

929
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,580
Number five, there's another narrative response.

930
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,000
There were highlights mentioned that there's good relationships

931
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:06,040
in knowledge of the legislative process, great connections with legislative lots of information.

932
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:12,620
What improvements would you suggest this question number 10, better legislative tracking system,

933
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:17,100
more regular meetings and the structure of framework? That covers the majority of responses.

934
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:23,240
A lot of it is just, there's a lot of information that's coming to us and how to make sense

935
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:29,460
of the hundreds of not thousands of bills that are in these sheets. I think that's the majority

936
01:28:29,460 --> 01:28:30,580
of the responses.

937
01:28:31,420 --> 01:28:32,220
Hey, well, thank you.

938
01:28:32,340 --> 01:28:38,420
I think that gives us some helpful information to work with the legislative session.

939
01:28:38,460 --> 01:28:41,200
The state session is coming up very, very soon.

940
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,960
The county, the session is ongoing.

941
01:28:45,060 --> 01:28:49,180
So, the contractor that we were working with.

942
01:28:49,220 --> 01:28:54,500
He had been urging us to hold a retreat or a discussion earlier in the year.

943
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,340
I think he wanted to do it in August or September.

944
01:28:57,340 --> 01:29:05,680
But because of our elections and any number of factors, we've yet to do this sort of a deep

945
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,560
dive into legislative priorities.

946
01:29:08,460 --> 01:29:16,320
I think partially, MML has a committee that works in focuses on state legislation that affects

947
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:22,040
all municipalities and their legislative committee is really just getting started and the

948
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:28,480
Prince George's County Municipal Association used to provide us with additional legislative support and that's gone.

949
01:29:28,620 --> 01:29:31,220
So we did put aside some additional funding in the budget.

950
01:29:31,420 --> 01:29:33,660
I believe it was $40,000.

951
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:39,500
The total amount is $40,000. Last year was $30,000 for the FY26 budget.

952
01:29:40,060 --> 01:29:49,560
Council reallocated $10,000 of $4,000 came out of the membership line item,

953
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,200
which primarily was meant to cover PGCMA and then the 6,000,

954
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,800
there remember we're put it from but it was really a movement of money rather than new money.

955
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:15,840
Right. So, staff, you've been working and looking at this and thinking through the possibility of bringing on some additional support. And I know that the idea of doing an RFP is one option.

956
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:23,080
Another option is to write on other contracts that we currently have.

957
01:30:23,580 --> 01:30:26,920
So what are our options in terms of bringing on another

958
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,540
some additional support?

959
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:34,400
I guess we're working with two firms really with legal legislative assistance.

960
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,190
Right now, Mr. Luchian.

961
01:30:39,970 --> 01:30:41,690
He's Mr. Luchian.

962
01:30:41,690 --> 01:30:50,670
So Mali, we hired them for a specific advocacy effort, so they're working on a separate matter.

963
01:30:52,670 --> 01:30:56,150
The go back to your question, what are your options?

964
01:30:56,530 --> 01:31:03,870
We conducted an RFP process and it was a process that we're not at all to all the legislative

965
01:31:03,870 --> 01:31:09,350
support and advocacy firms that we're aware of and we also disclose the publicly.

966
01:31:09,690 --> 01:31:11,130
We received numerous applications.

967
01:31:11,130 --> 01:31:18,210
we went through a vetting process and we scored them and then had ended up securing one contract.

968
01:31:19,970 --> 01:31:25,390
In this, for this year, at the request of council to consider other contractors,

969
01:31:26,530 --> 01:31:31,550
we went back to the scoring sheet and went down the list to see to the next two options.

970
01:31:31,550 --> 01:31:37,370
Omanley wasn't that list, but we had already hired Omanley for separate legal matters.

971
01:31:38,550 --> 01:31:41,910
So Omanley was part of the RFP process.

972
01:31:42,970 --> 01:31:48,170
The other firms, there were two other top scoring firms that we've had interviews with them.

973
01:31:48,930 --> 01:31:53,590
And if we've added the process, we discussed the options that we have with them.

974
01:31:53,610 --> 01:31:58,230
Part of it, we were aware of this desire by Council to have a multi-provider model.

975
01:31:58,230 --> 01:32:03,910
So speaking with those two other vendors on the list, we explore the opportunity of splitting up the

976
01:32:03,910 --> 01:32:09,310
scope of work, one taking taking the lead on the state legislation and another taking the lead on the

977
01:32:09,310 --> 01:32:15,450
county legislation. And then working, the two of them working together on the things that overlap.

978
01:32:16,750 --> 01:32:23,770
And so we had those conversations and we are in the final negotiations steps with a second vendor

979
01:32:23,770 --> 01:32:31,290
to to bring on so we can divide the the the duties. We with the budget we have constraints

980
01:32:31,290 --> 01:32:38,090
because both both vendors fully funded and their proposal exceeds the $40,000 that are allocated

981
01:32:38,090 --> 01:32:44,890
for this activity. So we're negotiating a reduced amount. We're also being in mind for that we

982
01:32:44,890 --> 01:32:51,270
did not want to take up the entire the entire $40,000 because they are things that come up throughout

983
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:55,470
the year they require immediate action on the advocacy front.

984
01:32:57,730 --> 01:33:01,690
So we wanted to leave some room just for any special advocacy

985
01:33:01,690 --> 01:33:03,410
legal fees that we will have.

986
01:33:03,670 --> 01:33:05,650
Sometimes we could have a consultant,

987
01:33:05,930 --> 01:33:10,510
a vise is about an issue before the county in the state.

988
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:13,650
And that consultant does not have the legal background

989
01:33:14,270 --> 01:33:16,090
to fully advise us on that matter.

990
01:33:16,430 --> 01:33:20,490
So we anticipate having additional legal expenses

991
01:33:20,490 --> 01:33:26,570
for a subject matter expert to advise us on a particular legal issue.

992
01:33:26,990 --> 01:33:30,110
For example, we can be talking about a land use authority matter,

993
01:33:30,510 --> 01:33:36,390
where the consultant is very much aware of the politics and how things move around land use authority,

994
01:33:37,010 --> 01:33:45,710
but you need a land use of attorney to determine its impact and how we can maneuver around the regulations.

995
01:33:46,670 --> 01:33:47,690
That's just an example.

996
01:33:47,690 --> 01:33:49,270
Council member.

997
01:33:50,970 --> 01:33:51,530
Popping.

998
01:33:51,530 --> 01:33:55,250
Have you, so this is the idea we would split it between county and state.

999
01:33:55,530 --> 01:33:57,390
Is that kind of what you're thinking?

1000
01:33:57,570 --> 01:33:58,910
Of course, the vendors go.

1001
01:33:59,350 --> 01:34:03,470
I mean, my biggest concern is with the county.

1002
01:34:03,730 --> 01:34:07,910
I know that the speed at which legislation is moving is fast,

1003
01:34:08,330 --> 01:34:11,450
even for the staff of the council members right now.

1004
01:34:11,950 --> 01:34:17,570
So I think it would be really important to have someone with a lot of experience in that.

1005
01:34:17,570 --> 01:34:25,050
particular in our county council arena because things are not operating as usual over there right now as we've heard many times

1006
01:34:25,650 --> 01:34:30,670
So I do worry because things are getting passed through that we're not hearing about

1007
01:34:32,090 --> 01:34:35,590
Things are just moving so rapidly at this point, so

1008
01:34:35,590 --> 01:34:42,810
That would be my biggest concern, whoever we we hire if we choose to hire someone to focus on the county that they have to

1009
01:34:42,810 --> 01:34:53,010
We're going to have to be great in there and hopefully already have some kind of expertise in that and I also worry about how they're going to be reporting back to us because again, things are moving so quickly.

1010
01:34:54,510 --> 01:34:56,070
I don't know how we will stand top of that.

1011
01:34:57,090 --> 01:34:58,190
Well, thank you. Thank you.

1012
01:34:58,550 --> 01:35:04,970
I think it's really important to define the scope of work and that differentiation between state and county is important.

1013
01:35:04,970 --> 01:35:07,650
But I think if we bring on an additional contractor,

1014
01:35:08,290 --> 01:35:09,790
there has to be some flexibility,

1015
01:35:10,050 --> 01:35:12,610
because there are relationships in areas

1016
01:35:12,610 --> 01:35:15,470
of expertise, one of these two contractors

1017
01:35:15,470 --> 01:35:17,690
would really need to be working together

1018
01:35:17,690 --> 01:35:19,530
and communicating somehow.

1019
01:35:20,050 --> 01:35:23,210
The other thing that's difficult is they are just so few

1020
01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:27,770
firms that are capable.

1021
01:35:28,230 --> 01:35:30,350
It's hard to find them where there's not a little bit

1022
01:35:30,350 --> 01:35:31,770
of a conflict of interest

1023
01:35:31,770 --> 01:35:34,570
where they're representing different kinds of entities.

1024
01:35:34,570 --> 01:35:38,390
But the bottom line is we do need to move ahead.

1025
01:35:38,570 --> 01:35:41,610
We've made a great deal of progress with the way

1026
01:35:41,610 --> 01:35:43,950
that are legislative advocacy works.

1027
01:35:44,990 --> 01:35:50,010
But still, it should be counsel driven with the support of staff

1028
01:35:50,010 --> 01:35:54,030
and contractors and just kind of having a good work

1029
01:35:54,030 --> 01:35:54,590
in relationship.

1030
01:35:56,070 --> 01:35:58,770
You need to make a decision on bringing somebody else on.

1031
01:35:58,870 --> 01:36:02,430
And then counsel needs to set aside some time,

1032
01:36:02,430 --> 01:36:09,470
work session or a treat really soon to kind of dive down a little bit more deeply into what our

1033
01:36:09,470 --> 01:36:15,030
priorities are. Remember, Tom? Just wondering about from the funding standpoint because we also,

1034
01:36:15,210 --> 01:36:21,330
I believe, had allocated some money specifically for legal services related to the mega glove,

1035
01:36:21,730 --> 01:36:28,270
which seemed to no longer be as necessary. Is that somewhere, is that, how much of that to be used?

1036
01:36:28,430 --> 01:36:31,350
Do we still have some of that in the budget? And I realized I didn't think of it until just now,

1037
01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:33,470
So I didn't ask you to look it up ahead of time.

1038
01:36:33,710 --> 01:36:38,190
But is that somewhere that would have some additional flexibility

1039
01:36:38,190 --> 01:36:42,770
for funding if we needed to for things that come up,

1040
01:36:43,010 --> 01:36:45,890
just because we don't expect, not that we can stop paying attention,

1041
01:36:45,910 --> 01:36:47,810
but we don't expect there to be as much need

1042
01:36:47,810 --> 01:36:49,070
with the maglove.

1043
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:53,150
The short answer is yes, whatever is available in that fun.

1044
01:36:53,370 --> 01:36:56,510
We are using some of those funds to cover the expenses

1045
01:36:56,510 --> 01:37:00,130
that we anticipate around the union matter.

1046
01:37:00,130 --> 01:37:00,430
Okay.

1047
01:37:00,830 --> 01:37:03,910
But yes, there's that funding available for the Magulette.

1048
01:37:04,770 --> 01:37:06,010
Okay, council member, kidding.

1049
01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:12,650
So I guess one of the concerns I have about a multi provider model

1050
01:37:12,650 --> 01:37:17,290
is that with any provider you still have to provide oversight

1051
01:37:17,290 --> 01:37:21,590
and management and you add another vendor or provider,

1052
01:37:21,850 --> 01:37:24,090
that's another person that you have to coordinate

1053
01:37:24,090 --> 01:37:26,790
when our internal staff is already pulled

1054
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:28,210
in multiple different directions.

1055
01:37:28,210 --> 01:37:35,650
So, you know, sometimes more isn't always better when you have to manage that.

1056
01:37:35,930 --> 01:37:43,730
And then second, I just wonder, would you be able to get greater efficiency with one provider

1057
01:37:44,430 --> 01:37:45,650
with the cost?

1058
01:37:46,190 --> 01:37:52,370
So, if you're splitting it up, they're both going to have the cost, as you said, they're over and above.

1059
01:37:52,370 --> 01:38:01,350
But if you're working with one, are they more amenable to negotiating that price so that we can keep that price down?

1060
01:38:01,530 --> 01:38:10,410
Especially if they're additional legal charges and things that we might need to think about going into this upcoming fiscal year.

1061
01:38:11,410 --> 01:38:17,350
Yes, and yes, there's always easier to work with one individual than having to manage to.

1062
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:22,630
as a manager, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's easier to do with one.

1063
01:38:23,770 --> 01:38:30,970
The, to the second part of your question, the efficiencies of, of the work,

1064
01:38:32,250 --> 01:38:37,630
in the, in the, in the cost structured, we spoke with our existing existing,

1065
01:38:38,730 --> 01:38:44,350
contractor and they have been amenable to work through the issues and addressing,

1066
01:38:44,930 --> 01:38:47,910
making sure that there's better communication and more targeted.

1067
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:57,790
responses and focus on legislation. So they've been very open about getting feedback and working

1068
01:38:57,790 --> 01:39:05,270
through the issues and honoring the existing price structure and identifying things that fall

1069
01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:09,470
outside of the scope of work and that those things that fall outside of the scope of work can

1070
01:39:09,470 --> 01:39:15,290
incur there could be additional fees associated with that if we need them to follow up with separate

1071
01:39:15,290 --> 01:39:18,950
matters. For example, in just full transparency or

1072
01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:27,130
scope of work specifically stated a state and county legislation and legal matters or political matters.

1073
01:39:29,410 --> 01:39:36,090
We did not anticipate the numerous executive orders that we had to read and try to figure out.

1074
01:39:36,190 --> 01:39:39,730
So that was something that I possibly did call it. And, you know, things happen, right?

1075
01:39:39,730 --> 01:39:49,390
And they jump, they accept the call to address those issues and where we're responsive

1076
01:39:49,390 --> 01:39:50,030
to that matter.

1077
01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:54,670
So that's an example of something that falls outside of the scope of work and we could

1078
01:39:54,670 --> 01:40:00,810
budget around and have figure out additional fees for things that are not part of the

1079
01:40:00,810 --> 01:40:01,930
explicit scope of work.

1080
01:40:02,270 --> 01:40:04,350
And there's things that also have their cycle, right?

1081
01:40:04,350 --> 01:40:09,370
county council has a different cycle than the state legislator.

1082
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:17,670
There's early pre pre pre submission bills are happening now and then the session is

1083
01:40:17,670 --> 01:40:20,930
and for swing and December through March.

1084
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:32,260
We're really almost too late to have a much impact on the pre filed bills with our

1085
01:40:33,020 --> 01:40:42,740
we might have, we need to just come from where we are now and rapidly kind of tool up somewhere in a position to have as much impact as we can.

1086
01:40:44,260 --> 01:40:46,300
Council member Pompey.

1087
01:40:46,540 --> 01:40:58,260
Yeah, as we're talking this through, I was just considering, you know, maybe we need to have a different tactic with county and state legislation, you know,

1088
01:40:58,260 --> 01:41:19,040
You know, we've traditionally, we've been sort of tracking the state legislation that falls into, like, certain, you know, priority areas, with the county that's a little more difficult, just because their processes are so different, they have multiple readings and committees and communities of the whole and all these things, so it's a lot more difficult to do with the county level.

1089
01:41:19,580 --> 01:41:25,960
So, I'm just wondering if maybe we need to sort of adapt to the way that we work on that issue.

1090
01:41:26,340 --> 01:41:32,740
Are we, do we, yes, we still need to be informed on issues that are happening on the county level,

1091
01:41:32,900 --> 01:41:40,120
but do we want our legislative contractor to have more advocacy role?

1092
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,840
Like, is that more important that the county level for us?

1093
01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:47,520
You know, as opposed to bill tracking and informing us when we need to weigh in,

1094
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,280
which is important, but much harder

1095
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,020
than much larger scope of work on the county level,

1096
01:41:52,980 --> 01:41:55,780
is it more important that we are having someone

1097
01:41:55,780 --> 01:41:57,180
who's they're advocating for us,

1098
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:58,500
they're advocating for specific issues.

1099
01:41:58,780 --> 01:42:00,480
So that's just something that was kind of thinking about,

1100
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:02,240
like maybe the approach should be different.

1101
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:03,280
I don't know.

1102
01:42:03,540 --> 01:42:04,240
What do you think, Mayor?

1103
01:42:04,900 --> 01:42:07,040
Well, I would be hesitant to,

1104
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:10,920
to see too much, to take too much

1105
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,360
authority away from council and staff

1106
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,680
in terms of advocating for our own priorities.

1107
01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:23,800
There are only so many firms that are out there really working with county council and following these issues closely.

1108
01:42:25,180 --> 01:42:28,540
And sometimes they are working for a number of different entities.

1109
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:36,800
And that could actually get in the way of us advocating for the things that green builders want and need.

1110
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:38,820
So I think we have to be mindful of that.

1111
01:42:38,820 --> 01:42:44,000
That's one of the reasons why council needs to be as engaged as we possibly can.

1112
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,880
But as she state, it has to do with getting information

1113
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,840
in a timely fashion and the way that these bills

1114
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,800
are changed from one stage at the committee,

1115
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:55,900
love one or two of the body, as a whole,

1116
01:42:56,020 --> 01:42:57,640
and it just happens really fast.

1117
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:58,340
Remember, Tim?

1118
01:42:58,740 --> 01:43:02,080
Yeah, I guess I appreciate councilmember McKinney's comments

1119
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,300
about the efficiencies and things.

1120
01:43:03,420 --> 01:43:06,140
I guess what I felt like I noticed with our current

1121
01:43:06,140 --> 01:43:09,300
with the process from the last year is that even though it was

1122
01:43:09,300 --> 01:43:12,560
in theory and scope to have both, because I think

1123
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:29,700
the person we were employing had more interest and more expertise maybe at the state level. We didn't get a lot from the county. So that's one of the appeals to me about separating it is that if it's for us a very clear scope of work you are focusing on this then there's no just makes it clear that this is it this is what we want.

1124
01:43:29,700 --> 01:43:36,540
So focus on the county things for a green belt rather than the ones that might be more in line

1125
01:43:36,540 --> 01:43:38,120
with other things the firm is doing.

1126
01:43:38,820 --> 01:43:43,360
And so I guess that's the reason to separate them, maybe even though there could be more

1127
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:51,660
efficiencies with one, yeah, well, it's been a little bit more targeted, maybe more effective,

1128
01:43:53,060 --> 01:43:57,540
But I'll tell you, I would actually like to have both of these rooms kind of looking at

1129
01:43:57,540 --> 01:44:05,620
county is that they do have or just both two contractors both sort of working together and maybe

1130
01:44:05,620 --> 01:44:11,140
amongst themselves deciding which committees or which areas they're going to cover I think

1131
01:44:11,140 --> 01:44:16,700
it's possible. So the bottom line on this is I think we do need to move ahead and based on the

1132
01:44:16,700 --> 01:44:23,220
survey there was a consensus that we should in fact bring on another contractor. So I'm just wondering

1133
01:44:23,220 --> 01:44:33,580
Mr. Soma on or will you be in a position to bring something to counsel at the next this meeting or the next one we are actively negotiating those two contracts right now

1134
01:44:34,220 --> 01:44:36,240
Yeah, we'll be ready

1135
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,200
We'll be ready and and I just just

1136
01:44:40,180 --> 01:44:47,660
The question about efficiency I understood it to be about my own efficiency. It's easier to deal with one person that it is to deal with too

1137
01:44:49,020 --> 01:44:50,960
That's how I interpret your question

1138
01:44:52,060 --> 01:44:54,240
I was trying to preserve your time.

1139
01:44:54,740 --> 01:44:56,420
Is somebody who works with multiple vendors,

1140
01:44:56,820 --> 01:44:57,580
on multiple projects?

1141
01:44:57,580 --> 01:44:58,020
I appreciate it.

1142
01:44:58,100 --> 01:44:59,800
I know that that is very challenging.

1143
01:45:00,500 --> 01:45:11,460
And everybody's going to have their own system in way, and you will then have to be the intermediary to try to bring that in one package of that was.

1144
01:45:11,460 --> 01:45:28,560
I appreciate it, thank you. So if we can move and bring on another contractor, but at the same time, we need to set aside some time in December as soon as possible really to have discussion with these contractors

1145
01:45:29,500 --> 01:45:38,620
to try and hammer out some of these ideas about dividing the responsibilities and the best way to move forward and based on the advice that they give us.

1146
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,280
I think they'll be very, very helpful.

1147
01:45:41,820 --> 01:45:50,100
I'm just looking at the time that it's 1915 and I think we will have this topic on the agenda on Monday.

1148
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:53,300
So I think maybe we need to move on.

1149
01:45:53,300 --> 01:45:59,020
I think another sort of couple of other items that are sort of have a little bit more time urgency.

1150
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:02,380
I mean, one is deciding on if we need to do a different date for the retreat.

1151
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,580
I think that's something we absolutely need to discuss tonight.

1152
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:13,660
I think some of the liaison role some of the not I mean for it for the city boards and committees,

1153
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:19,300
but also some of the things for like the the the cog boards and things like that.

1154
01:46:20,020 --> 01:46:26,660
What is our, is that something we need to actually be able to vote on on Monday or can the December meeting soon enough?

1155
01:46:26,860 --> 01:46:28,040
December meeting soon enough.

1156
01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:28,940
For college.

1157
01:46:29,420 --> 01:46:30,040
Okay. Okay.

1158
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:30,860
I just wanted to make sure.

1159
01:46:30,900 --> 01:46:33,100
And the advisory boards.

1160
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:34,260
That's up to your discretion.

1161
01:46:34,540 --> 01:46:36,060
You can leave everyone who's on now.

1162
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:43,160
Until you have a new council member that you might want to assign a board to or not.

1163
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:44,360
It'll be up to you.

1164
01:46:45,260 --> 01:46:46,740
But that could wait.

1165
01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:50,460
that couldn't theory then wait until until the council retreat.

1166
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:51,880
We don't need to talk about that tonight.

1167
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:54,800
I guess the deadline for the NLC committees, though,

1168
01:46:56,380 --> 01:46:59,320
is December 2nd, something like that.

1169
01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:01,720
So that we might need to, that also has some time urgency,

1170
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,140
just thinking of those two things, maybe the next two things

1171
01:47:05,140 --> 01:47:07,520
that have the most time urgency to make sure we talk about tonight.

1172
01:47:08,440 --> 01:47:12,160
Well, let's talk about the date for the retreat,

1173
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,100
which was tentatively scheduled for the 6th,

1174
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:17,220
But that's not going to work for all of us.

1175
01:47:18,140 --> 01:47:21,240
So the thinking had then that we would try and do the retreat

1176
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:22,660
on a weekend on a Saturday.

1177
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,000
But the way the calendar looks and just thinking about

1178
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,920
some of the open dates that we have for work sessions,

1179
01:47:33,480 --> 01:47:36,040
perhaps the best thing that we could do

1180
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:41,660
would be the plan, the retreat discussion for a weekday.

1181
01:47:41,660 --> 01:47:47,180
filling one of those work session days may be starting earlier, having a little dinner or something,

1182
01:47:47,860 --> 01:47:52,200
nothing just like sandwiches, something like that. Six o'clock and then six to ten,

1183
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:57,200
something like that. I think that would be a good solution. What are they? We have three work

1184
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:02,780
session dates that are open in the vicinity early December. Yes, we currently have December 10,

1185
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:09,340
December 15, and December 17, December 17, that we have not scheduled work sessions for.

1186
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,340
Well, the 15th this.

1187
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,400
Okay, does the city want to have conference with any of those states?

1188
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:19,180
It's at the 15th or 17th.

1189
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,600
The 15th is a holiday.

1190
01:48:21,860 --> 01:48:22,540
Is that a holiday?

1191
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:24,680
First day of Hanukkah.

1192
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:28,300
Okay.

1193
01:48:32,300 --> 01:48:33,900
Sooner is better than way of the 10th.

1194
01:48:34,740 --> 01:48:35,400
Well, for me, yes.

1195
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:39,580
So a question though, because the other date was that we had talked about initially

1196
01:48:39,580 --> 01:48:45,500
was December 13th that Saturday, and I think there was preference expressed for December 6th,

1197
01:48:45,500 --> 01:48:50,360
but I can't actually remember if the 13th was a day that was not going to work for some people.

1198
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:55,160
Mike, there was just a preference for the 6th. I think we had two choices and the majority

1199
01:48:55,160 --> 01:49:00,300
voted for the 6th. Right, I know, but that's not possible for everybody, so was it a preference,

1200
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:07,280
or was it the 13th is not possible for somebody? It would really depend on the time for me on the 13th.

1201
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:11,560
I, it looks like I'm booked from 11 to 4.

1202
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,120
Okay, so that would not allow for that would be optimal.

1203
01:49:16,700 --> 01:49:19,000
Okay, so then that sounds like we do the 10th,

1204
01:49:19,180 --> 01:49:20,520
then we try for the 10th.

1205
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:22,320
Does everybody take the 10th?

1206
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,140
So we can't think of six, yeah.

1207
01:49:24,580 --> 01:49:25,520
Yeah, we.

1208
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,220
And we need to speak with our facilitator.

1209
01:49:30,620 --> 01:49:33,240
Is he spoken with Mr. Reynolds?

1210
01:49:33,500 --> 01:49:35,500
I have not, I don't have dates to run by.

1211
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,920
Okay, now that you, or you, I hear the 10th.

1212
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:45,740
December 10th, which is Monday, December 10th, and you want to start off with December 10th is the Wednesday.

1213
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:47,000
So I'm sorry Wednesday.

1214
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:48,560
And what time are we starting?

1215
01:49:49,060 --> 01:49:55,280
I would suggest that we start at six, maybe have some sandwiches or some pizza.

1216
01:49:55,520 --> 01:50:01,800
Just kind of work, make it a four hour session with a break in between.

1217
01:50:02,540 --> 01:50:03,580
It's too long for a retreat.

1218
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:05,940
PM, I mean, I have to work.

1219
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:07,280
I have to get up early in the morning.

1220
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:13,120
I don't, I just don't know that I can do a four-hour retreat after work in an entire eight-hour

1221
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:18,820
work day and then doing a four-hour retreat and then getting up and working another entire

1222
01:50:20,020 --> 01:50:23,780
eight-hour work day. I just, I don't know that that's. Why are you?

1223
01:50:25,540 --> 01:50:32,180
I feel. So, but it could we start at six and then go to nine or nine, 30, six to nine and at least

1224
01:50:32,180 --> 01:50:36,400
have that be a start. I mean, we may have to split up a retreat. Yeah, I think we may have to split it up,

1225
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:41,790
but six to nine feels much more palatable to me, okay.

1226
01:50:42,650 --> 01:50:47,790
So there's three dates, this is anyone in the 15th

1227
01:50:47,790 --> 01:50:49,710
of the first day of Hanukkah's.

1228
01:50:49,850 --> 01:50:55,230
It's kind of high holidays up would it be bad to actually,

1229
01:50:55,970 --> 01:50:56,510
you know, Hanukkah?

1230
01:50:57,110 --> 01:50:58,710
No, it's not a problem, really.

1231
01:50:59,210 --> 01:51:00,470
I was going to go to Hanukkah holiday.

1232
01:51:00,970 --> 01:51:03,110
Well, I was going to say, and it looks like the first evening

1233
01:51:03,110 --> 01:51:05,710
of Hanukkah is actually December 14th this Sunday,

1234
01:51:05,710 --> 01:51:08,370
At least according to the internet.

1235
01:51:08,830 --> 01:51:10,870
Well, I have a, well, it popped up and.

1236
01:51:11,250 --> 01:51:11,410
Right.

1237
01:51:11,570 --> 01:51:11,970
The calendar.

1238
01:51:12,610 --> 01:51:12,990
So I have.

1239
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:15,130
So I think it's okay.

1240
01:51:15,950 --> 01:51:19,870
So we'll need to check with Mr. Reynolds and find out what his availability is.

1241
01:51:20,230 --> 01:51:22,590
But let's let's do that as soon as possible.

1242
01:51:22,690 --> 01:51:25,810
So if we can do that on the 10th or the 15th.

1243
01:51:25,810 --> 01:51:26,850
Let's split it up.

1244
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:27,890
That's fine.

1245
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:29,090
Yes, please.

1246
01:51:29,650 --> 01:51:31,410
As another option.

1247
01:51:31,410 --> 01:51:46,350
I don't know how, like, would a Friday afternoon, so after school is out, but we could maybe start earlier, then a regular session, so that we could, so we don't have to start at seven.

1248
01:51:46,710 --> 01:51:49,390
We could start at a five.

1249
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:50,730
I don't know.

1250
01:51:50,930 --> 01:51:52,350
That's just another possibility.

1251
01:51:52,650 --> 01:51:54,710
I'll work till five, I'm fine.

1252
01:51:56,310 --> 01:51:57,430
Oh, let's see.

1253
01:51:58,110 --> 01:51:59,130
So that's not feasible.

1254
01:51:59,670 --> 01:52:07,070
I mean, I'm working from seven to five, but I would just have to come here straight away, but that's going to be a really long day for me.

1255
01:52:07,630 --> 01:52:14,450
Is that better than a work session that's starting at 30 and going to 10 30 likely to be better?

1256
01:52:14,990 --> 01:52:22,230
I'm sorry, would it be better to go earlier to start earlier to end earlier or start later?

1257
01:52:22,850 --> 01:52:23,510
I guess that's the question.

1258
01:52:25,340 --> 01:52:30,260
on a front, you're talking Friday at 5 o'clock until or 5 o'clock every week.

1259
01:52:31,420 --> 01:52:41,040
It works for me, so let's pick three and share those with Mr. Reynolds and C.V.

1260
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:51,840
available to the 15th and the 12th, 10, 15th and so can I say something?

1261
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:54,380
This is exactly what Jenny just said.

1262
01:52:54,980 --> 01:52:57,400
We're having a full day of work already.

1263
01:52:57,900 --> 01:52:59,760
And then we're adding another three or four hours.

1264
01:52:59,860 --> 01:53:01,340
It doesn't matter what day you do it.

1265
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:02,720
It's going to come out to the same.

1266
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:06,740
If I come, if I work from seven to five, I have a pretty full day already.

1267
01:53:06,820 --> 01:53:08,740
And then I'm going to come here at five o'clock.

1268
01:53:08,740 --> 01:53:17,140
It'd be here until at nine. That's the same amount of time, right? That's the same issue that Jenny was just mentioning.

1269
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:23,240
I mean, I think we're talking about splitting it up over two days so that we wouldn't have to have quite as long of a day.

1270
01:53:23,740 --> 01:53:25,460
So we would split it over two evenings.

1271
01:53:27,180 --> 01:53:34,540
And I think the other the other advantage of being of it being on a Friday is that it is a really long day, but at least it's not a school day the next day.

1272
01:53:35,060 --> 01:53:41,520
Right. Well, let's bounce these dates off of Mr. Reynolds and see what his availability is.

1273
01:53:41,900 --> 01:53:47,580
Right. So what I heard is I'm asking Mr. Reynolds is availability on the 10th,

1274
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:56,500
the 12th, and the 15th after 5 p.m. for a 2 to 3 hour session. Right. That's exactly it.

1275
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:01,360
Yeah, to split it between two of those eights. We want it.

1276
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:03,280
They don't have to be concurrent necessarily.

1277
01:54:03,820 --> 01:54:07,960
I mean, we get the half and come back in the next month

1278
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:09,660
and actually might be a little bit more productive

1279
01:54:09,660 --> 01:54:14,780
for Mr. Reynolds to be able to kind of consolidate the discussion

1280
01:54:14,780 --> 01:54:18,640
in his thoughts and present them back to us.

1281
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:19,580
Yeah, yeah.

1282
01:54:19,580 --> 01:54:20,640
Yeah, I think I agree with that.

1283
01:54:20,860 --> 01:54:23,340
I think maybe you try to get one of them, one in December,

1284
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,460
and then maybe look at another date in January at some point,

1285
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:29,680
rather than trying to get two out of three of those.

1286
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:30,040
Right.

1287
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:41,460
I think that just having work with Mr. Reynolds and work with other consultants, retreats, that seems to be the most productive way to get the

1288
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:48,300
Consolidate all of our thoughts and notes and kind of move ahead with a good plan.

1289
01:54:49,480 --> 01:55:09,300
So, this question of legislative retreat also is something that could happen in December probably needs to happen in December, doesn't have to be that long, is that something Council wants to do and one of these open dates in December?

1290
01:55:09,300 --> 01:55:10,060
Would

1291
01:55:14,410 --> 01:55:16,310
that be with our consultant, right?

1292
01:55:16,530 --> 01:55:18,210
That would be with the consultant.

1293
01:55:18,670 --> 01:55:22,450
So would you have them in place, if you're finalizing that,

1294
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:25,670
and would they have enough time to prepare for the summer?

1295
01:55:26,150 --> 01:55:26,810
Probably not.

1296
01:55:27,370 --> 01:55:30,830
Both, well, both consultants that we spoke with,

1297
01:55:30,890 --> 01:55:34,630
what has a very clear process about the retreats

1298
01:55:34,630 --> 01:55:35,710
and the level of engagement?

1299
01:55:37,150 --> 01:55:40,830
Um, I would, if we're going to have the

1300
01:55:40,830 --> 01:55:43,130
the legislature retreat, I would bring both for the men.

1301
01:55:43,130 --> 01:55:49,310
at the same time, which is because the availability of meetings in December, there's only two

1302
01:55:49,310 --> 01:55:54,590
work sessions, unless you want to do a Saturday or another day, you've only got three sessions,

1303
01:55:55,290 --> 01:56:01,230
three dates, the 10th, the 15th and 17th. Now the 12th is a new day, that's a Friday, so we'll add

1304
01:56:01,230 --> 01:56:09,730
that to the list, but I would just bring them in for one session. Otherwise we had to find another

1305
01:56:09,730 --> 01:56:14,010
session to bring another one. And then there's, I think you're already introducing a separate strategy

1306
01:56:14,010 --> 01:56:18,770
between the zoo. So if we just have both of them in the room, then we can all try to get on the same page.

1307
01:56:21,590 --> 01:56:27,290
Yeah, a merit for them. Well, and it does seem like, I mean, the legislative session starts in January.

1308
01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:33,970
So it does seem like, at least the, the, the, the state one. So it does seem like we probably need to

1309
01:56:33,970 --> 01:56:36,850
try to talk to have the initial conversation in December.

1310
01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:43,710
And I would say that if we do the 12th, I don't think we should have a recession on the

1311
01:56:43,710 --> 01:56:46,710
10th because then we have Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

1312
01:56:47,590 --> 01:56:54,250
So I think, yeah, if we can get one of those dates for the sort of the council internal

1313
01:56:54,250 --> 01:57:02,550
retreat and one of those dates for a legislative retreat, then I think that may cover us pretty

1314
01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:03,130
well.

1315
01:57:03,130 --> 01:57:04,950
It's best if we can do.

1316
01:57:05,110 --> 01:57:05,350
Right, right.

1317
01:57:05,410 --> 01:57:07,470
I think the Council retreat is the priority.

1318
01:57:07,810 --> 01:57:13,030
So let's share those dates with Mr. Reynolds and depending on which one, which one hopefully works for him.

1319
01:57:13,710 --> 01:57:21,570
Then we can try and schedule legislative discussion with the two contractors if that's feasible on one of the other dates.

1320
01:57:22,910 --> 01:57:23,010
Okay.

1321
01:57:24,810 --> 01:57:29,610
Gosh, there's just so much to talk about in the administrative session like this.

1322
01:57:29,610 --> 01:57:43,590
I think it's a good idea, Councilmember McKinney, you have advocated that we have this kind of discussion on a regular basis, and I believe there's the idea of doing this on a quarterly basis is something that's come up.

1323
01:57:44,130 --> 01:57:56,550
Is it Council's will that we go ahead and try and schedule the next two or three now or shall we try another one in January and go from there.

1324
01:57:57,370 --> 01:58:03,830
I don't think we need to schedule it right now because we already have recognized that we don't have that many takes in December.

1325
01:58:04,270 --> 01:58:06,990
But I think maybe we should wait a little bit.

1326
01:58:06,990 --> 01:58:09,790
I guess if it was quarterly would be in January if February.

1327
01:58:12,150 --> 01:58:12,570
January.

1328
01:58:14,330 --> 01:58:14,490
Right.

1329
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:17,100
Thoughts.

1330
01:58:17,340 --> 01:58:17,540
Yeah, please.

1331
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:21,380
Well, I was going to say the other one that I think we do need to talk about is those NLC committees.

1332
01:58:21,380 --> 01:58:29,580
And actually, this is a question, so the advocacy committees are one thing and I would like to, I would like to continue to.

1333
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:38,100
I'm planning to apply to again to the Transportation and Infrastructure Services Committee because I think that dovetails well with the Transportation Planning Board.

1334
01:58:38,340 --> 01:58:42,380
And I feel like I'm finally getting a handle on this a little bit, baby, tiny.

1335
01:58:43,220 --> 01:58:49,140
But I don't know if there's other things, it seems like we probably don't want two people applying for the same committee.

1336
01:58:49,140 --> 01:59:02,800
You know, I don't know if the same thing applies for some of the, like, the other ones, not the advocacy committees, but the council's council's are they today allow more than one person from a jurisdiction to be on them do you I just I don't know.

1337
01:59:03,020 --> 01:59:03,040
Yeah.

1338
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:03,860
Ms. Pope.

1339
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:08,340
I'm I'm reapply for the public safety and the small cities of course.

1340
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,120
So we had.

1341
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:12,140
Yeah, two people.

1342
01:59:13,020 --> 01:59:16,020
Yeah, we had two people on each at one point.

1343
01:59:16,340 --> 01:59:16,820
Okay.

1344
01:59:16,820 --> 01:59:30,600
Yeah, I think we want to try and cover as much ground as we possibly can, but I think our individual preferences come into play as well.

1345
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:40,240
So there are three types of committees, and being actually serving on the committees is the best way to really get the most out of coming to an NLC conference.

1346
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:59,480
So, the advocacy committees at the policy for NLC overall, there's the councils which are gathering around topic areas in the constituent's groups, like the National Society of the Black, the NBC Leo.

1347
02:00:04,550 --> 02:00:13,250
There's a few, there's so many. I think the women in municipal government, yeah.

1348
02:00:13,790 --> 02:00:21,590
There's an indigenous people's, and there's an LGBTQA group as well.

1349
02:00:22,150 --> 02:00:23,910
There's some sort of overlap when they're meeting.

1350
02:00:24,010 --> 02:00:30,710
Yeah, they do. I've served on community development community and economic development, CED for many years,

1351
02:00:31,630 --> 02:00:36,710
I think I may have a chance to take a leadership position next year.

1352
02:00:36,830 --> 02:00:37,490
Oh, no.

1353
02:00:39,610 --> 02:00:48,670
So the bottom line is you need to apply now and I would strongly urge you to apply to one of each of those.

1354
02:00:48,670 --> 02:00:54,210
advocacy group, constituency group, and council. I shared the first year

1355
02:00:54,210 --> 02:00:59,270
suburbs council for some time, but as Ms. Pope says, we've had two or three

1356
02:00:59,270 --> 02:01:03,490
people attending the small cities were small, and in L.C. were a small city.

1357
02:01:03,830 --> 02:01:07,390
Right, and I shared the small cities means we were a host or one of the

1358
02:01:07,390 --> 02:01:12,670
some meetings here. Right. So Jenny, do you know if you have you applied?

1359
02:01:12,670 --> 02:01:15,970
I have

1360
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:27,240
applied to any as of now, but I have served on EENR, and it's okay.

1361
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:35,080
I think that I was on the Council of Youth Education and Families, but they don't really

1362
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:36,120
meet very frequently.

1363
02:01:38,100 --> 02:01:43,200
And then I was in women and youth school government, but frankly, they sent to many emails

1364
02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:43,720
from me.

1365
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:47,700
I kind of backed off of that and I'm going to thank you.

1366
02:01:47,700 --> 02:01:50,100
I just have there's no way to digest that.

1367
02:01:50,300 --> 02:01:51,260
Like put it in a digest.

1368
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:54,160
So I'm sure they're doing great work.

1369
02:01:54,660 --> 02:02:00,380
But I need a little more email hygiene than this.

1370
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:03,320
So yeah.

1371
02:02:04,500 --> 02:02:07,800
But yeah, I mean, I was more interested in serving on small cities

1372
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:09,280
for a member council this year.

1373
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:14,260
So it sounds like maybe I'll apply for that since they do allow multiple numbers.

1374
02:02:14,260 --> 02:02:15,860
That's fine. I'll be great.

1375
02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,740
I don't know that I will apply for E and R anymore.

1376
02:02:19,500 --> 02:02:23,280
It's okay, but, you know, wasn't the most,

1377
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,020
I don't know. It wasn't what I thought it would be.

1378
02:02:28,620 --> 02:02:31,860
I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying I thought it was because they weren't thinking it's not that.

1379
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:35,660
Yeah, we've always had a good representation on that committee.

1380
02:02:35,660 --> 02:02:41,780
Jay Davis served on that committee, read a Mac served on that committee as well as the youth and education committee.

1381
02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:50,160
So, council member McKinney, did you go to which, which ones of these did you pop into?

1382
02:02:51,180 --> 02:02:54,640
I have served on the Human Development Committee.

1383
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:57,660
So, I plan on re-applying to that.

1384
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:00,500
And council member Niesel.

1385
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:03,640
Anything, what good do you?

1386
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:11,660
I would love to be on the youth education and family, which is a switch, but if anyone is not involved.

1387
02:03:13,060 --> 02:03:19,720
Okay, and councilmember Fritz, what do you think? If I can help the city by happy

1388
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:22,760
this ceremony, where were you in your voice?

1389
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:25,420
What you're interested in?

1390
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:33,500
I'll just kind of write down the committees of the or serving on or the once that we applied and then

1391
02:03:34,500 --> 02:03:40,900
You can take a look and see where the gaps are and like I said it's your passion really you go to a committed sounds one way

1392
02:03:40,900 --> 02:03:50,800
It doesn't turn out to be like that and go another but by signing up and actually being a member of the communication and the impact of your participation as much.

1393
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:52,720
I think is much more substantial.

1394
02:03:53,260 --> 02:03:59,840
And sometimes it's like you're on the committee and maybe it's just the people on the committee or maybe not.

1395
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:08,900
Anyway, I'm just going to say that sometimes you get on a committee and you're like, wow, this is not really a committee that's very productive and, you know, so you got it.

1396
02:04:10,380 --> 02:04:14,500
Tentatively looking at the list of finance administration and recover mental relations.

1397
02:04:15,220 --> 02:04:16,760
Yeah, that's good.

1398
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:27,780
Okay, so why we all just write in email just send that email to council will take a look at that and see what we've got covered.

1399
02:04:28,300 --> 02:04:29,180
Kind of go from there.

1400
02:04:29,420 --> 02:04:31,000
I think I think we kind of just went through it.

1401
02:04:31,300 --> 02:04:33,640
Yeah, I think everybody said what they were interested in.

1402
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:37,560
So unless and less somebody thinks it's something else later that they want to apply to.

1403
02:04:37,580 --> 02:04:41,760
I think for a lot of the constituencies, you don't really have to live for them.

1404
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:43,480
I don't think it's not a selective thing.

1405
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:48,260
If you want to be out there, like let's just get out of that email list and then you hear from them.

1406
02:04:48,260 --> 02:04:50,360
That's pretty much it. Lots of replyals.

1407
02:04:51,500 --> 02:04:51,880
Yeah.

1408
02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:58,820
Okay. We have a question raise online and I don't know if you want to do public comment from in the room.

1409
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:01,020
Although Mr Rowan says commented a couple times already.

1410
02:05:01,460 --> 02:05:03,280
Okay, who is online there?

1411
02:05:03,420 --> 02:05:04,480
It is Jay Davis.

1412
02:05:06,940 --> 02:05:08,030
Jay Davis are you there?

1413
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:11,880
Yes, I am. Jay Davis Greenbell East.

1414
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:21,960
First of all, some of these committees, you have to be appointed by the President of NLC.

1415
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:32,340
And so what has been done in the past is that the Executive Director of MML takes the names and promotes them to NLC.

1416
02:05:32,940 --> 02:05:39,560
So I don't know if you've been doing that in the past because when you apply, it doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be accepted.

1417
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:46,980
So if it pays to go through the MML, if they still do that, and I don't know if they do.

1418
02:05:47,540 --> 02:05:53,060
Also, I'm a little bit disappointed that no one is taking on EENR.

1419
02:05:53,620 --> 02:05:57,060
That's the environmental advocacy group.

1420
02:05:57,260 --> 02:06:00,780
We have always, at least when I was there, I was there all 30 years.

1421
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:06,100
And maybe it was a bad meeting that Jenny went to, I don't know,

1422
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:15,680
But they have always brought I've always found absolutely amazing ideas to bring back to the city to help with resiliency and sustainability.

1423
02:06:16,660 --> 02:06:21,320
A lot of the things that Greenville does are ideas I brought back from that particular group.

1424
02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:35,560
And for a city that says that it wants to be sustainable and resilient and green to not have anybody on that committee that advocacy committee to me is disappointing.

1425
02:06:36,220 --> 02:06:42,880
So I don't know how you can work that out. Maybe no one on council is interested in the environment. That's possible

1426
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:45,880
But I don't want you

1427
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:52,180
No, that that that's their strong interest in the environment. You all have interest in other things. Education

1428
02:06:52,900 --> 02:07:02,880
Communication transportation I understand that but there's gonna be somebody on council that will be at the strong advocate for the environment. And I'm hoping that someone will do that

1429
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:05,760
Hearing the call I will

1430
02:07:06,100 --> 02:07:10,980
by the position to make sure we are represented on environment committee.

1431
02:07:11,820 --> 02:07:12,380
Thank you.

1432
02:07:13,020 --> 02:07:21,160
And in regards to your points about working through NML, I don't think it says my experience

1433
02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:27,840
has been that the nomination, putting in the application to NLC directly, is just

1434
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:31,700
likely to land your position on the committee as working through NML.

1435
02:07:31,700 --> 02:07:44,380
So, you know, based on our discussion and our passion and what we apply for, perhaps we can send that information over to Theresa at the MML so that she knows what the apply for.

1436
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:46,680
So, Mr. Orleans.

1437
02:07:56,070 --> 02:07:57,430
Yes, thank you.

1438
02:07:58,090 --> 02:07:59,990
Getting back to the question of the contractor.

1439
02:08:00,750 --> 02:08:01,950
So, called contractor.

1440
02:08:02,910 --> 02:08:17,110
I have known for many years that all of Council or nearly Council all of Council will ignore me and I may be preparing myself for the future that nearly all of Council or all of Council will continue to ignore me.

1441
02:08:17,350 --> 02:08:23,570
But that aside when this came up three months ago there was a question asked from this lecture and it was dismissed.

1442
02:08:24,230 --> 02:08:28,850
Council's free to dismiss what residents have to say, or this resident has to say, but I

1443
02:08:28,850 --> 02:08:30,790
question the need for any contractor.

1444
02:08:31,310 --> 02:08:34,690
Holy apart from the role that Mr. Moran played for all those years,

1445
02:08:35,010 --> 02:08:47,920
Rainbow Paisons do as to MMA and MLC and is informed or should be informed regularly,

1446
02:08:48,060 --> 02:08:51,080
both before the session and during the session, the status of legislation.

1447
02:08:51,640 --> 02:08:55,700
Green Ball has a delegation, the 22nd District, in anapolis.

1448
02:08:56,820 --> 02:08:58,600
We are going to be meeting with them in the near future.

1449
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:03,900
They should inform the three delegates in the center, should inform the city of perspective

1450
02:09:03,900 --> 02:09:04,480
legislation.

1451
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:10,200
I don't know what to hiccup and whether or not it was resolved with PGCA, PGCMA is, hopefully it

1452
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:10,700
was resolved.

1453
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:14,760
But, we are a member of PGCMA, they also should be informing the city.

1454
02:09:15,280 --> 02:09:19,400
Having received and with regard to the county, we have one immediate member of county

1455
02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:25,840
to our large. We should be informed by them the status of county legislation. I do not see the need

1456
02:09:25,840 --> 02:09:32,760
for the city to spend money for a contractor, a lobbyist, when in fact the council and city management

1457
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:38,280
can be informed by all of the four mentioned. And council, when it wants to consider legislation,

1458
02:09:38,540 --> 02:09:43,380
as to whether or not to support it or oppose it, can have a work session with residents. And residents

1459
02:09:43,380 --> 02:09:49,060
can offer their own suggestions as to whether council should endorse something or resolve in opposition

1460
02:09:49,060 --> 02:09:54,080
to something. We don't need to be spending my- I'm free to- I'd probably would be the free

1461
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:57,360
of spending a green belt, but we don't need to be spending money where we don't need it.

1462
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:01,620
Tows what you do is roll and that's in meeting with the residents and listening to the residents

1463
02:10:01,620 --> 02:10:07,080
and the residents should fulfill this roll and telling council what they want council to do.

1464
02:10:08,900 --> 02:10:17,040
Well, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Orleans. Council is fulfilling their role and by excuse me sir, you're out

1465
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:23,580
order. So I don't feel the need to say much more about this. It's a consensus of

1466
02:10:23,580 --> 02:10:28,440
counsel and staff that we need additional support in order to adequately follow

1467
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:34,260
county legislation in particular. So this is what we have tried to do in the last

1468
02:10:34,260 --> 02:10:38,480
year and we'll continue to try and emphasis to protect the best interest of Greenbelts

1469
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:46,010
residents. So that's what we're doing. That brings us to the next topic. What time is it now?

1470
02:10:47,350 --> 02:10:54,770
So we may need to try to sort of briefly touch on some of these standing rules ideas that we have but develop that more later.

1471
02:10:55,210 --> 02:11:04,690
I know we had some ideas that had come up in previous discussions, but yeah, clearly we're not going to get to everything on on this list.

1472
02:11:06,930 --> 02:11:14,930
And the executive session tonight, I really don't think that we are going to be able to do much with that.

1473
02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:20,430
Which is something I brought up in our meeting on Monday.

1474
02:11:21,430 --> 02:11:25,150
Other than talk a little bit about the time for a council member.

1475
02:11:25,810 --> 02:11:28,590
I'm just wondering because we do have an executive session.

1476
02:11:28,850 --> 02:11:33,630
If we could just see if there are any of these things that we can table and move into the executive session,

1477
02:11:33,630 --> 02:11:40,030
because it's already almost quarter to ten, so I think we could just go through this and decide

1478
02:11:40,030 --> 02:11:44,190
what we need to talk about tonight. It seems like many of these things are things that we

1479
02:11:44,190 --> 02:11:46,750
couldn't move, we could table for another time.

1480
02:11:49,310 --> 02:11:52,530
I agree. But I think the discussion of council rules,

1481
02:11:52,670 --> 02:11:56,610
I think we need to do that if we count some number of threats and for all of our benefit at the

1482
02:11:56,610 --> 02:12:06,710
beginning of our term. And if we don't do this tonight, we won't be in the position to

1483
02:12:06,710 --> 02:12:09,490
you will actually approve these rules on Monday.

1484
02:12:10,110 --> 02:12:11,570
I don't think that's not going to happen.

1485
02:12:11,810 --> 02:12:12,630
I don't think that's not going to happen.

1486
02:12:13,790 --> 02:12:14,890
That's not going to happen.

1487
02:12:14,970 --> 02:12:16,270
We need to talk about them.

1488
02:12:16,330 --> 02:12:17,930
We need to approve them as soon as possible.

1489
02:12:18,970 --> 02:12:25,030
So in your opinion, I can't remember what you feel like we can table.

1490
02:12:25,750 --> 02:12:28,770
I just don't really feel like in the executive session.

1491
02:12:29,450 --> 02:12:31,270
There's a lot that we can cover.

1492
02:12:33,010 --> 02:12:38,530
I think that we can table community lays on real rules.

1493
02:12:38,690 --> 02:12:42,130
I think we can table the calendar maintenance for seizures.

1494
02:12:44,550 --> 02:12:48,330
We could maybe, I don't know, I assume Mr. Samara,

1495
02:12:48,410 --> 02:12:50,710
are you prepared to talk about the budget process?

1496
02:12:51,210 --> 02:12:52,510
That's to you.

1497
02:12:54,570 --> 02:12:54,850
I imagine.

1498
02:12:55,610 --> 02:13:00,610
Yes, I'm ready to talk on any one of these items.

1499
02:13:00,610 --> 02:13:04,630
The I did not put the list thinking that we would discuss them all.

1500
02:13:05,030 --> 02:13:06,670
Yeah, I just suggest.

1501
02:13:06,930 --> 02:13:10,930
I feel like we've covered, yeah, we've covered a lot of ground tonight, like the parliamentary

1502
02:13:10,930 --> 02:13:11,870
procedures training.

1503
02:13:12,010 --> 02:13:13,530
I'm going to think we have to talk about that tonight.

1504
02:13:14,250 --> 02:13:19,510
We could talk a little bit about the content of the retreat.

1505
02:13:20,910 --> 02:13:27,170
We need to, we need to think that through and perhaps the parliamentary procedure training

1506
02:13:27,170 --> 02:13:29,490
perhaps that could be part of the retreat.

1507
02:13:30,050 --> 02:13:30,230
Yeah.

1508
02:13:30,230 --> 02:13:34,970
I think or we could discuss it at some of their other point.

1509
02:13:36,050 --> 02:13:41,610
And I think a lot of the other topics there would actually be topics that would be informed

1510
02:13:41,610 --> 02:13:42,430
by our discussion.

1511
02:13:42,470 --> 02:13:42,750
Right.

1512
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:47,130
I think standardizing communication protocols, that's a great topic for the retreat, you know,

1513
02:13:47,230 --> 02:13:52,010
as well as like the community calendar maintenance, stakeholder engagement, scheduling

1514
02:13:52,010 --> 02:13:52,930
and mean coordination.

1515
02:13:53,190 --> 02:13:58,150
I think that those are things that are great for the retreat, you know, because we're all

1516
02:13:58,150 --> 02:14:02,430
together and this is really sort of organizing how we're going to be functioning together as

1517
02:14:02,430 --> 02:14:03,950
the council for the next two years.

1518
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:12,530
I wouldn't mind hearing just a quick update or overview on the budget process preparation

1519
02:14:12,530 --> 02:14:13,790
and what we know about that.

1520
02:14:13,870 --> 02:14:14,670
But first thing.

1521
02:14:14,790 --> 02:14:19,470
Well, I was just going to comment is that because I think we have tried in the past to have

1522
02:14:20,150 --> 02:14:27,590
in the summer or maybe early January a conversation about council priorities to inform the budget.

1523
02:14:27,590 --> 02:14:33,130
Yeah, does that need to be our other work session in December, or I think it should.

1524
02:14:33,630 --> 02:14:39,750
Any big changes, you know, for the you want to see, I will welcome here in that as soon as possible.

1525
02:14:39,890 --> 02:14:45,710
I'm going to provide the directive to senior staff in December what the budget targets will be.

1526
02:14:45,730 --> 02:14:55,070
In December, we expect to have the revenue projections and that determines whether our current spending level is on par with expected revenues.

1527
02:14:55,070 --> 02:14:59,970
and if we have room to add activities or do we need to come.

1528
02:15:01,660 --> 02:15:15,000
That's really what we're looking at December. So if council is interested in any funding of special activities or significant projects, I would like to know that sooner than later, so that we figure out how we're going to pay for it.

1529
02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:22,040
If we're adding additional officers, as you know, we can take on more officers, we need to find a way to fund those.

1530
02:15:23,180 --> 02:15:32,680
It's going to be, I don't want to sound negative for the 2027 budget cycle.

1531
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:37,340
We know that the two years that I've been here, I haven't had the luxury of adding much

1532
02:15:37,340 --> 02:15:38,300
of anything to the budget.

1533
02:15:38,500 --> 02:15:40,920
It's all been reductions for two years.

1534
02:15:41,740 --> 02:15:50,600
So I'm hoping that this year's the 2026 reductions were enough that in 2027, any cuts, if

1535
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:57,980
will be minimal, but I have to be prepared for what could be a worsening economic environment.

1536
02:15:58,760 --> 02:16:04,540
So if you have any any any any any special projects or any any thing you want to see different,

1537
02:16:04,740 --> 02:16:10,400
I want to know sooner the better and now if you're also open to raising taxes, I would like to know

1538
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:12,020
that sooner than later too.

1539
02:16:15,370 --> 02:16:19,430
Now for many years Council has wanted to have a to make sure that

1540
02:16:19,430 --> 02:16:27,270
was like a pre-budget discussion, just get a sense of what you're thinking is before it goes

1541
02:16:27,270 --> 02:16:30,750
out to the department and it's so that we can and back up.

1542
02:16:30,850 --> 02:16:36,490
Let you know about what we've heard from the residents and what's most important to them.

1543
02:16:37,190 --> 02:16:43,150
So I would be very supportive of the idea of the limited time that we have the dates to

1544
02:16:43,150 --> 02:16:47,390
actually have that pre-budget discussion in early December.

1545
02:16:48,470 --> 02:16:56,550
So we're working on, we're trying to squeeze in a lot of things into December 10th and December 15th and December 17th.

1546
02:16:56,690 --> 02:16:58,030
It's going to be a good pack week.

1547
02:16:58,070 --> 02:17:00,430
Those are the days we've got to work with.

1548
02:17:00,850 --> 02:17:09,390
So I'll figure out what we can work out with Tom Reynolds and the legislative support consultants and whatever is available that will be our budget check in.

1549
02:17:09,810 --> 02:17:09,990
Okay.

1550
02:17:16,280 --> 02:17:23,600
So, so, and you just kind of gave us a thumbnail overview of the budget timing, right?

1551
02:17:24,020 --> 02:17:29,620
The industrial, the budget timeline, our initial projections go, or is going out to the team to

1552
02:17:29,620 --> 02:17:35,320
senior management team in December. One of the things I'm hoping to improve upon this year is

1553
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:41,200
the special recognition that we receive from the GFOA, aligning the strategic goals and objectives,

1554
02:17:41,200 --> 02:17:47,940
So we want to build upon that work that we've done as a budget preparation and continue to get better out those things.

1555
02:17:48,440 --> 02:17:51,020
That also includes the performance measures.

1556
02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:56,620
We've got the MBOs, but we want to connect the performance measures to the strategic goals and objectives.

1557
02:17:58,300 --> 02:17:59,660
So we're doing that work.

1558
02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:06,840
I spoke with James in this morning about the budget tools that we'll be using.

1559
02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:27,200
We are making changes to the back end and how we're collecting data with Ron, Ron, Kevin Turner, our treasurer, there's some processes will be changing internally about how we'll manage the documents and the narratives to what we're making some changes on how the budget book is is being prepped.

1560
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:37,160
the I attend it, the IC may conference in Tampa in October and I attended the GFOA budgeting

1561
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:44,220
sessions and there were really good techniques and engagement opportunities that were presented

1562
02:18:44,220 --> 02:18:51,920
and I want to try some of those tools and techniques that were shared about getting constituents involved

1563
02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:54,400
in the process.

1564
02:18:55,400 --> 02:18:55,920
Fantastic.

1565
02:18:56,920 --> 02:19:02,700
I have a suggestion for standing rule suggestions because I think we need to go into our

1566
02:19:02,700 --> 02:19:05,420
close session to do that sooner rather than later.

1567
02:19:05,980 --> 02:19:10,380
So I think whatever date we have the retreat, that's a good time to talk about that.

1568
02:19:10,440 --> 02:19:14,620
So my suggestion is that we all have homework that we accept the homework of reading through.

1569
02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:19,520
I've already started actually writing out some suggested changes, but that we aside ourselves

1570
02:19:19,520 --> 02:19:26,040
homework of reading through the standing rules and writing out writing out suggestions for changes

1571
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:29,700
and then maybe we can make sure we have those whatever date we end up with the retreat

1572
02:19:29,700 --> 02:19:35,160
that everybody shares those so we can be prepared for that discussion but not try to get into any

1573
02:19:35,160 --> 02:19:41,800
of that right now. I mean I'm good with that. I've already done part of that but then your homework

1574
02:19:41,800 --> 02:19:46,120
It's already done. It's a good reading. I want to go back and read through it again two or three times.

1575
02:19:48,260 --> 02:19:53,220
So at this time, I guess we aren't going to go into an executive session.

1576
02:19:57,190 --> 02:20:01,250
So Mayor Protem, well, actually, we've got some information. I have two information.

1577
02:20:02,090 --> 02:20:07,070
Yeah, I have two of the EV charges stations are power ups. I hope to open those up tomorrow.

1578
02:20:07,790 --> 02:20:15,890
there will be free for use by the public. I know, scandalous. There'll be free. Did you say free?

1579
02:20:16,650 --> 02:20:22,790
Free. Well, be free to the citizens, though. You know, the electricity will be covered by the citizens through their tax payer money.

1580
02:20:23,370 --> 02:20:34,390
But there will be open to the public in part because Council will have its first reading on the resolution to authorize me to implement charging fees at Monday to 17th meeting.

1581
02:20:34,390 --> 02:20:40,450
that's the first reading. Resolutions require two readings. So we couldn't, I couldn't implement

1582
02:20:40,450 --> 02:20:45,830
the new fees until Council has fully adopted that resolution. So we're looking at three weeks

1583
02:20:45,830 --> 02:20:51,730
of free charging. All right. It would be too much to have those stations up and running and not be

1584
02:20:51,730 --> 02:21:01,670
available. It's like a holiday gift, right? Yes. Very good. So that's the first announcement. The second

1585
02:21:01,670 --> 02:21:08,050
announcement is the American Legion law enforcement and civilian and public safety awards is Friday.

1586
02:21:08,930 --> 02:21:14,490
So I hope that's on your radar is that the American Legion is 30 to 5 to 7.30.

1587
02:21:14,650 --> 02:21:20,610
So at five, it's kind of like a social and then the actual dinner and programs started six is incorrect.

1588
02:21:20,690 --> 02:21:23,650
I'm always far more, but yes, it starts at five.

1589
02:21:23,650 --> 02:21:27,310
Okay, I'll probably get there about 5.30 or 6.

1590
02:21:28,390 --> 02:21:32,330
I love just asking it so much time there yesterday at the Legion.

1591
02:21:33,230 --> 02:21:34,490
That's right with the governor.

1592
02:21:34,890 --> 02:21:35,470
There you go.

1593
02:21:35,530 --> 02:21:37,150
We had a great activity yesterday.

1594
02:21:37,390 --> 02:21:44,730
The veterans, Sarah Monning, we could turn out whether it was a little rough, but that it was

1595
02:21:44,730 --> 02:21:45,730
excessively bent.

1596
02:21:45,950 --> 02:21:46,450
Great pictures.

1597
02:21:46,690 --> 02:21:53,090
There's a great video at the timeline of yesterday's activity, so I encourage you

1598
02:21:53,090 --> 02:21:56,970
to check that out if you haven't already done so.

1599
02:21:57,930 --> 02:21:58,950
Let's see, Mayor Protem.

1600
02:21:59,330 --> 02:22:01,550
Yeah, a couple of my information, I'm just all just

1601
02:22:01,550 --> 02:22:05,810
just saved or write up and to include as reports for Monday.

1602
02:22:06,170 --> 02:22:08,470
I was going to give some updates on some of the work

1603
02:22:08,470 --> 02:22:10,430
Korean ACEs has been doing on Save as you throw

1604
02:22:10,430 --> 02:22:13,090
and then also that meeting that I emailed about

1605
02:22:13,670 --> 02:22:16,430
that offering everybody to attend the meeting

1606
02:22:16,430 --> 02:22:18,810
with the resident who has some expertise in

1607
02:22:18,810 --> 02:22:21,410
voting systems and ranked choice voting.

1608
02:22:21,410 --> 02:22:28,490
so I will just write those up as reports, but I think just to note that tomorrow there is

1609
02:22:28,490 --> 02:22:34,390
we have the public safety town hall at 630 at Spring Hill Lake, that is also unfortunately

1610
02:22:34,390 --> 02:22:39,570
the same time as Greenbelt Rotary is going to listen to Kevin CarpetraJune at school talk about

1611
02:22:39,570 --> 02:22:45,070
invasive species invasive and how you can remove invasive. So I think we might need to do some

1612
02:22:45,070 --> 02:22:50,310
devise and conquer on that one. There is also, I believe, a form about the transportation

1613
02:22:50,310 --> 02:22:57,710
and improvement plan, which is at six, so I don't know that I'm going to be able to, I might

1614
02:22:57,710 --> 02:23:02,510
try to listen into the beginning of that, but I don't think I've added that to the city calendar,

1615
02:23:02,790 --> 02:23:09,110
but if, yeah, those are all three somewhat overlapping events tomorrow, so just, we might, yeah,

1616
02:23:09,150 --> 02:23:14,410
I will be at the rotary thing because I'm in charge of bringing the refreshments. But then I may come to

1617
02:23:14,410 --> 02:23:18,330
break up afterwards. What time is spring to wake? It's at 7 o'clock. Six thirty.

1618
02:23:19,750 --> 02:23:24,630
Yeah. So those were just the things that, and the, like, and that's at the

1619
02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:25,630
Brex Center. Yes.

1620
02:23:27,070 --> 02:23:27,230
Yeah.

1621
02:23:27,930 --> 02:23:32,330
Not selected in Saturdays a full day too. The morning starts with the door

1622
02:23:32,330 --> 02:23:37,490
Kennedy 3K 5K run. That's one of the things that council and door

1623
02:23:37,490 --> 02:23:41,450
Kennedy discusses one of their celebration events when we did our walk.

1624
02:23:42,270 --> 02:23:45,170
I'm gonna walk it, maybe run it.

1625
02:23:45,790 --> 02:23:50,250
Then we have the ribbon cutting for DMV, Iron Gym.

1626
02:23:50,570 --> 02:23:52,490
That's the sadder Saturday.

1627
02:23:54,010 --> 02:23:54,610
What a clock.

1628
02:23:54,630 --> 02:23:55,210
What a clock.

1629
02:23:55,690 --> 02:23:55,910
What a clock.

1630
02:23:56,910 --> 02:23:57,990
I have not put it in.

1631
02:23:58,110 --> 02:23:58,890
I have not put it in.

1632
02:23:58,910 --> 02:24:00,270
I don't know.

1633
02:24:02,310 --> 02:24:03,070
I don't know.

1634
02:24:03,390 --> 02:24:03,470
I don't know.

1635
02:24:03,470 --> 02:24:03,590
It's all.

1636
02:24:03,650 --> 02:24:03,850
It's all.

1637
02:24:03,850 --> 02:24:03,950
It's all.

1638
02:24:03,950 --> 02:24:04,110
It's all.

1639
02:24:04,110 --> 02:24:04,230
It's all.

1640
02:24:04,570 --> 02:24:04,850
It's all.

1641
02:24:04,930 --> 02:24:07,510
I really come to rely on that.

1642
02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:11,850
Yes, you're so efficient like any things on the calendar. I really appreciate it.

1643
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:15,990
So one pan is the ribbon cutting and I think I have the diabetes walk on there already.

1644
02:24:16,530 --> 02:24:21,910
So do you know what the diabetes walk? Is it a fundraiser? Are they looking for teams to raise money?

1645
02:24:25,500 --> 02:24:30,820
It is a fundraiser. They're raising money for their PTA.

1646
02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:38,540
But I believe some of the funds are also going to be going for diabetes awareness because November is diabetes awareness and prevention month.

1647
02:24:38,540 --> 02:24:42,680
Yes, thinking about doing a proclamation on it.

1648
02:24:43,140 --> 02:24:46,620
So are there teams or are there like individuals just making?

1649
02:24:46,760 --> 02:24:52,140
It's individuals. I believe it's $15 for adults and $10 for kids.

1650
02:24:52,560 --> 02:24:54,820
I think it's a good idea for you to

1651
02:24:54,820 --> 02:24:58,320
maybe run the 5K, then head on to D&B Iron, work out some more.

1652
02:24:59,460 --> 02:25:02,680
It is also America, recycled stay on November 15th.

1653
02:25:03,580 --> 02:25:04,760
Yeah. That's right.

1654
02:25:05,340 --> 02:25:06,600
Okay. Okay.

1655
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:08,320
Oh yes, and the reparations.

1656
02:25:08,640 --> 02:25:09,600
It's also a few third.

1657
02:25:10,400 --> 02:25:11,300
Saturday also.

1658
02:25:12,100 --> 02:25:15,360
I hear it's going to be an interesting one.

1659
02:25:16,820 --> 02:25:17,020
Yes.

1660
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:18,720
Okay.

1661
02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:24,440
Well, if there's no further information on them, let's go ahead and go into our executive session.

1662
02:25:25,240 --> 02:25:25,500
Okay.

1663
02:25:25,900 --> 02:25:28,300
So we need to call meeting towards a special meeting door.

1664
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,240
I hear by call the special meeting of the Greenbelt City Council,

1665
02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:36,540
to where Madam Clerk can you call the roll please.

1666
02:25:39,940 --> 02:25:41,440
Council member Fritt.

1667
02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:45,580
Council member Nisa.

1668
02:25:47,560 --> 02:25:52,520
Council member McKinney. Yes. Yes. Council member Pompey. Yes.

1669
02:25:53,380 --> 02:26:03,480
Here. Mayor Protem Weaver. Here. In Mayor Jordan. Here. Okay. Thank you so much. So at this time,

1670
02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:08,200
if there are no further information items, can you please take us into the executive session?

1671
02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:18,240
Yes, I move that council go into closed session in accordance with section three dash 305 be I think it's just one right this is one and eight, but I think it's just one.

1672
02:26:20,980 --> 02:26:26,280
3-305B1 of the general provisions article of the annotated code of the public general laws of Maryland.

1673
02:26:26,600 --> 02:26:30,420
One to discuss the appointment, performance evaluation of appointees, employees or officials

1674
02:26:30,420 --> 02:26:32,180
over whom this public body has jurisdiction.

1675
02:26:32,780 --> 02:26:35,880
Any other personnel matter that affects one or more specific individuals.

1676
02:26:36,440 --> 02:26:39,240
The purpose of this meeting is to discuss the city manager's school setting.

1677
02:26:39,640 --> 02:26:43,420
In addition to Council, Director of Human Resources,

1678
02:26:43,420 --> 02:26:47,180
sources, Dwayne Martinez and City Manager Selmeron will be in the session.

1679
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:51,260
Note that Council will not return to open session following this closed session.

1680
02:26:51,880 --> 02:26:53,000
Okay, is there a second?

1681
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:53,460
Second.

1682
02:26:53,980 --> 02:26:56,140
This Pope is seconded.

1683
02:26:56,140 --> 02:26:58,900
Madam Clerk, can you call the rule, please?

1684
02:26:59,060 --> 02:26:59,320
Yep.

1685
02:26:59,780 --> 02:27:00,800
Council member Fritz.

1686
02:27:01,420 --> 02:27:01,660
Yes.

1687
02:27:02,340 --> 02:27:03,120
Council member Nisa?

1688
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:04,400
Yes.

1689
02:27:05,340 --> 02:27:06,140
Council member McKenney?

1690
02:27:06,620 --> 02:27:06,920
Yes.

1691
02:27:07,740 --> 02:27:08,760
Council member Pompey?

1692
02:27:08,980 --> 02:27:09,300
Yes.

1693
02:27:09,900 --> 02:27:10,720
Council member Pope?

1694
02:27:10,980 --> 02:27:11,300
Yes.

1695
02:27:11,300 --> 02:27:19,040
Mayor Pro Tim Weaver. Yes, and Mayor Jordan. Yes, and the time is 9.56.

1696
02:27:21,900 --> 02:27:33,430
Let's go ahead and turn off the Zoom and the video cameras so that we can get started at 10 o'clock.