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Welcome to the June 14th, 2022, or a civil adviser meeting. We have a closed meeting on this Council. Would you please

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pre-the motion please? Yes, ma'am. Whereas, the Board of Supervisors of Green County

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decided to discuss and close meeting the following matters. Consultation with legal counsel

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pertaining to actual approval litigation, or such consultation at the meeting would have adversely

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effect the negotiating or litigating posture of the public body concerning RSA.

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Consultation of legal counsel employed or retained by a public body regarding specific legal

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matters requiring the provision of legal advice by such council concerning tower space

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and jaunt. Whereas, pursuant to Section 2.2-3711-8788 of the Code of Virginia, such discussions

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may occur in a closed meeting. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Board of Supervisors

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of Green County does hear about authorized discussion in the afford state of matters in

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meeting. I just need that permission. So move, second. We have a motion to go and close

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session. I'm Mr. Here on the second, I'm Mr. Lamol Coles, this is the moment.

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Hi. Miss Halfway? Hi, Mr. Lam. Mr. Hereing? Hi.

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The terror vote side. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You talk too late.

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Can you believe it?

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I don't know.

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They can't

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reach you.

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They might be that green orange tackle.

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Huh?

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Green home tobacco.

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Oh yeah.

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Why would you have tobacco in this early opportunity?

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I should, I know you call them a great thing.

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I have a text letter in my veins.

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It's a big Christmas gift.

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My raised is an, I'm used to it, I'm happy.

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Someone is drawing.

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I thought, okay, well, that goes.

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Yeah.

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That's a good thing.

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Yeah it has a little longer band.

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And I think it's a, it's taking a well-scheduled outfit.

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Yeah I appreciate it.

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They said, well why for so much, they started to branch over it, but didn't go there.

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They did a great job with the

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I'm the guy who was okay.

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You said we got a luggage break?

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The cigarette was gonna blow a little bit like a barrel.

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Is that two had greenburner?

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No.

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We must have some extra.

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There was an interesting thing.

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That was a check of the shirt.

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I didn't want to...

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I don't think that was a monster heart.

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I just moved on...

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I said I'm not sure.

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It's like, it's like, it's one of the things I'm going to take a sample of that.

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So this is...

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You go, believe me?

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Yeah, I'm not sure if that's good.

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And you can suddenly get a few of them on the side.

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We'll have to do this.

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I'll just take a break.

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I'll just take a break.

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I'll just take a break.

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There's no time.

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There's no time.

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There's no time.

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There's no time.

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There's no time.

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There's no time.

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There's no time.

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There's no time.

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I don't want to go to the region.

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What's up?

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How are you?

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How are you?

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Can you go?

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I don't know what's happening.

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I know.

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I've got some random person out there.

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Now how does that end?

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Yeah.

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I don't know about it.

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I don't know about it.

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I don't know about it.

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I don't know about it.

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So, what do you want to do, that's it?

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Yeah, I do.

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If you have to have a good one, I'll just just close it up.

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You should have a good one.

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Yes, sir.

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I don't know about it.

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I don't know about it.

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So, it's already all in that.

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Mr.

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Jim, Jim?

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Jim?

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Sorry.

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Jim, sorry.

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Welcome to Tuesday, June 14th, 2022, Board of Supervisors meeting, we have been in closed session.

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We have a motion to come out of closed session.

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So moved.

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I have a motion and a second on the floor to come out of closed meeting.

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Roll call vote.

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Mr. Bellman.

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Aye.

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Ms. Halfland.

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Mr. Lam.

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Mr. Harry.

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And share my time.

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Thank you.

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If there are any business that needs to come out of our clothes, we'll just certify first.

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Oh, I guess I do need to certify that one.

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Sorry.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All members certify that only public business matters,

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lawfully exempted from the open meeting,

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requirements, and only such matters,

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as the identified by the motion to air in the closed meeting,

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or to discuss, we'll call the Mr. Hearing.

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I certify. Mr. Lam.

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I certify.

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Mr. Half-Lim.

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I certify.

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Mr. Baldwin.

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I certify.

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And the chair of certifies.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So our matters that need to be brought before.

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Yes, Pam, Chairman.

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I moved to authorize the County Administrator to execute the Communication Tower

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Leases as discussed in close session.

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Do we have a second?

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A second.

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I'm the motion by Mr. Harry and a second by Mr. Lam.

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All followed by Mr. Bellman.

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Hi.

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Ms. Halfland.

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I, Mr. Lam.

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Mr. Harry.

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Hi.

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In the chair vote sign.

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Thank you.

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Then the other members.

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Madam Chair.

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Yes, Mr. Bellman.

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I'd like to make a motion this concurrent resolution of the boards of supervisors of Orange County, Madison County, and Green County, Virginia,

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approving the withdrawal and transition agreement for Green County withdrawal from the Rapidands Service Authority, and I'm going to read the whole thing.

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Whereas Orange County, Orange, Madison County, Madison, and Green County Green, Virginia,

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collectively, the counties are participating localities of the Rapid Ann Service Authority, the RSA.

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And whereas on April 5, 2021, the Board of Supervisors of Green signifying its desire to withdraw from RSA by adopting a resolution under Virginia code 15.2-5-1-1-2-B.

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And whereas, at its April 5th, 2021 Resolution, the Board of Supervisors of Green also

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called, for unanimous consent to withdraw by Orange and Madison under 15.2-552A.

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And whereas, on April 13th, 2021, the Board of Supervisors of Madison adopted a resolution

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and unanimously consenting to the withdrawal of green on the condition that green provide

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evidence that the bond holders of green and the RSA consent to withdraw, and that the withdrawal

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follow the approvals and protocols that set forth in 15.2-5112.

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And whereas also on April 13, 2021, the Board of Supercompsies.

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The resolution unanimously consenting to the withdrawal of green from RSA, pursuant to 15.2-5112, and supporting the initiation of the process for the proper separation of green from the RSA.

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Subject to orange and Madison entering into an agreement to configure the RSA board with an orange majority after green's departure.

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And whereas, May 25, 2021, Madison Orange entered into a memorandum agreement, agreeing that

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prior to Greens' withdrawal from participation in the RSA, the boards of supervisors

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of Greens' Madison Orange will adopt the concurrent resolution to amend the article

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so that effective upon Greens' withdrawal, the RSA's governing board, shall consist of five

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representatives, three of whom shall be appointed by Orange, and two of whom shall be appointed by Madison.

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And whereas the Orange, Madison, and Green boards of supervisors that Dr. Resolutions dated May 10,

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2022 addressing the terms for Greens withdrawal from the RSA,

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and directing the preparation of the withdrawal and transition agreement.

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Whereas the RSA board adopted a resolution dated May 19, 2022 addressing the terms for Greens withdrawal from the RSA,

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Whereas the attached withdrawal and transition agreement has been prepared, whereas the orange

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mass and green boards of supervisors find the attached withdrawal and transition agreement

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to be acceptable, for the resolution of the pending dispute and completion of greens

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withdrawal from the RSA, whereas the orange, Madison and green boards of supervisors

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call up on the RSA board of members to adopt its own resolution, approving withdrawal

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and transition agreement, under before June 16, 2022.

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Now, therefore, be it resolved that by concurrent resolution of the respective board

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of supervisors, each of the counties does hereby approve the attached withdrawal

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and transition agreement and calls upon the RSA board of members to adopt its own

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resolution, approving withdrawal and transition agreement, honor before June 16, 2022.

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It is with us thereof, the boards of supervisors of orange, Madison and Green have adopted

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this concurrent resolution, approving the withdrawal and transition agreement and calling

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by on the RSA Board of Members to adapt its own resolution, approving the withdrawal and

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transition agreement under before June 16, 2022. This kind of current resolution, approving

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the withdrawal and transition agreement dated June 14, 2022, for Green County withdrawal from

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the Rapid Ann Services Authority. I'll second half.

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We have a motion by Mr. Berlin, a second by Mr. Harry, you all call a vote.

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Mr. Bellman.

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All right.

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Just have one. Aye. Mr. Lam.

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Mr. Harry.

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Aye.

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And the chair votes aye.

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Thank you very much.

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Any other matters coming out of close session?

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If not, if I can ask everyone to please rise and have a pledge of allegiance and no moment of silence

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at the completion.

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I would like to clarify the United States of America, and to the other of which is saying

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what the United States of America and the Bizzle would live at the end of justice for all.

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Thank you.

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May be seated.

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Can I have a motion for the adoption of our agenda?

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So moved.

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Madam Chair.

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Yes, Madam Chair.

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I'd like to second that.

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But I'd request that item 8CB separated.

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We just discussed that for a few minutes.

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I had a time, and then I'll second the motion for the adjournment.

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All right, that's fine.

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You have a motion about Mr. Heron and a second about Mr. Millman.

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We'll call that, Mr. Heron.

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Mr. Lam.

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Yes, I have.

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Mr. Millman.

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All right.

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And the chair of the time.

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Thank you.

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Next item would be matters from the committee.

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I just want to remind everyone that,

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in accordance with their bylaws that you limit the comment to three minutes.

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First is Hugh Davis.

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He's come forward please.

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Yes, my name is Hugh Davis.

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I live at 221 Fairling, Dr. Alexander Swilford,

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and I spoke to many of you this whole past week about doing something for the elderly

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and Mark Taylor and Jim, you all said it.

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Since you all looked at that again, and by the national average of inflation, if you increase that only by 3% by the national average, which is below that, I mean above that, Europe were behind $10,000 at least.

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So, I just want to bring that to the board, you're way behind 10,000, 10 grand on this deal.

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And I think you ought to be looking out for the elderly that, or in these terrible times,

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I didn't ask for this inflation at this rate.

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And I only asked you for 50% reduction on our real estate, which is far behind any other county surrounding us.

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Albumarl, we'd be 75%, fall care Fairfax Lab in Prince William, we'd be 100% you know, and

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Regure, you said somebody's got to pay the taxes yet, but not off of my sweat and blood.

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I've worked 70 years hard for this money, and it's about time somebody's 70 years old

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give us old folks as cotton tops, a break.

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We need a break, and the only people that I think they want to up your taxes, when you

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tax assessment comes up is those that are going to profit constantly by it when they cut

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out and sell their land and go to Costa Rica somewhere else. I don't like that deal one

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bit either. It's not a time to give higher taxes and any time in this kind of situation this

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country is in this high inflation. Five books were down the gas, that's a call for. And 30% on the food

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increase, I can't make it. We're on a fixed increase, fixed income rather, and there's a lot

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of people and the same shoes that we're in. We need help ASAP. You know, this stuff we're going

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to get around to it. Please, let's jump in on this and do this for us. We need it, need a bag.

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We can't go nowhere. It's like, we're at the COVID deal. We're stranded. I got to put 100 bucks

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80 bucks in the gas tank for one vehicle. That's got to last us two weeks. Even at 50%

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$1,000 in 3% of the population in Green County, you would be only missing 50 to $60,000.

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I don't think you are going to miss 50 or $60,000. I think the people who would benefit from us as

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citizens would be a thousand dollars a year off of our taxes. That'd be a

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tank full of gas a month, which would be a big asset to us. And I can't

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understand if this board does not vote to help the elderly people out. I cannot

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believe it. If you won't get on the bandwagon and help us out ASAP, we need it now.

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And I don't think your Bows are compassionate tied up yet, but you need to do something

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for all of us. In this same circumstances that I'm talking about, Davis, I talk to you,

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Mr. Herring, Taylor, Jim, I spoke to all of you and Ms. Blitz, have one too. I spoke to you

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all about this. We really need some action and the most people, as I said, were only talking

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about 2% of the population that were 3% in this county that would fit that bill.

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And all the

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And I think, you know, we shouldn't be the least amount in all of these counties.

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We ought to be somewhere in the middle with them, and I'm not asking for a free ride.

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Just cut at 50%.

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That would help us immensely.

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But anyhow, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Scott Mingo Dorf.

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Thanks for coming.

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Welcome.

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Thank you.

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As stated, I am Scott Mingo Dorf.

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I live up on Cal Mountain to a known Cal Mountain road of these Pacific.

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Madam Chair, person, ladies and gentlemen, board.

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Thank you for giving me this time to address you.

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The Comprehensive Plan is a well-thought-out and well articulated option.

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And most instances, the zoning ordinance is remarkably consistent and implementing the intent of that plan.

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Nonetheless, I have witnessed that the language concerning tourist lodging in section 16-25

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of that ordinance is so broad as to invite abuse.

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Even within that section, the language for by-right usage within the A1 and C1 districts

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specifies that any such years shall be in accordance with all applicable zoning district requirements.

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On the contrary, 1625-2, sets note.

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The permitted types or intensity of commercial activity, nor any requirement to be in accordance with other applicable zoning district requirements.

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It has been used as the basis for ignoring otherwise sensible restrictions on population density and permitted commercial activities in the A1 and C1 districts.

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Both growth and increased tourism are established trends, but should be regulated properly

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to protect the property rights of the county's residents.

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It is neither fair to the citizens of this county.

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Nor into commercial entities wishing to part the way that us to leave the limits of property

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use so ambiguous as to constantly test where that limit may be, or whether the limit exists

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at a home. I asked the Board to direct the staff to develop limits

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consistent with the language and intent of the comprehensive plan, and those are the A1 and

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C1 zoning districts, and to involve the public in this process. Until such time that the

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language concerning to a dislodging is revised, I request that the Board needs

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consider, deferring the approval of special use permits under 16-25.

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I appreciate the opportunity to speak.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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This is a privilege to be here with you.

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I would like to come forward.

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I can have from chair.

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Anybody that is joining us at home,

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for most of you please look at the instructions on your screen

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and raise your hand so that we can see it like a rest of the board.

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So, it starts with normal left-hand side of the screen

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and you a few moments to raise your hand.

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It does not appear, we have any public speakers from home.

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Thank you, Mr. Brewer.

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Senator, let's start agenda.

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All that we want to take, I don't want A and B together.

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I'm really about to see at this time.

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Madam Chair, I'll make a motion to approve the consent of Joan A and B.

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I'll second that.

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We have a motion on Mr. Bowman, a second on Mr. Hearing.

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On the consent agenda, we'll call that, Mr. Bowman.

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Mr. Bowman?

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Mr. Bowman?

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Excuse me, Mr. Lam?

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Mr. Hearing?

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And the chair vote sign.

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Thank you very much.

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And that would leave the resolution of posing with the Jefferson Madge,

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as some regional lover and name change.

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Madam Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve this resolution

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with a comment once we get to discussion.

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I'll second that.

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Okay.

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I have a motion and a second.

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Any discussion?

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Yes, I'd like to just make a statement.

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I received several phone calls from residents who are supportive of obviously this resolution.

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And I wanted to just echo my strong support for this.

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I believe many of our institutions in this nation are under attack by folks.

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And I don't think that we should be changing the name of our library at this point in time.

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So I'm very much in support of this resolution.

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I wanted to go on the record with that.

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Also, in support of this resolution, this came to me from Louisa County, the Chairman there,

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as soon as to put it on and some more and more within our worry with this resolution.

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Any other further discussion in the comments if you want to have a welcome?

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I agree with the resolution, but I also recognize James Monroe, but I agree with the resolution when you try to change names all the time, I said, what's a value in it?

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This will have a motion in a second on how we'll call vote Mr. Bowman.

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Ms. Huffley, aye. Mr. Layem.

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Mr. Herein. Aye.

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And the chair votes.

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Thank you very much.

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Aye.

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Next item will be consent agenda.

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Please be public hearing on the proposed secondary six year improvement plan for the physical year

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2,23, 2,028, Mr. Shepherd, the CEO for that resident engineer from Vietnam, which you come

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boldly please. Thank you.

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Good evening Madam Chair, Members of the Board. I'm back tonight to go back over the

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seconder's six year plan in response to our workshop session that we had last month. Just

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as a reminder, the purpose of the Royal Rustic Program for the seconder's six year plan

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funding is to pay even

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Existing unpaid road, just to reestablish ditches and shoulders, but to leave trees vegetation and the

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role nature of the road intact as much as possible.

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Eligibility includes unpaid roads, already in the state secondary system, carrying no more than

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1,500 vehicles per day with a minimum of 50, and then of course to be included as a priority

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in the secondary six year plan, which we're here to discuss tonight.

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Use for local traffic, or familiar with the features of the road, with minimal anticipated

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traffic growth, and we prefer at least 16 foot width, but 18 is always what is most preferred.

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So as a result of last, last month's meeting,

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I was asked to add Welsh Run Road Part 2

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to the end of our plan, so currently we have its Simmons Gap Road, fully funded in fiscal year

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23 ice house road fully funded in 24 south river road fully funded in 25 Welsh run road part one, which was already on the plan

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Funded in fiscal year 26 and the last part of Welsh run road which we just added is not fully funded in our final year of the plan fiscal year 28

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There is about to complete of $104,000 for future years

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Any questions for me at this time?

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did you want to see any maps of the roads? I think Jim has put that together for us.

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Sure, sure.

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Sure, but yeah.

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Being a mountain is one that we're working on right now that is about to be under construction.

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And then on the map, I'm sorry.

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On the plane currently, this is the section of Simmons gap.

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It's a 1.2 mile section.

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We have Ice House Road, 0.34 mile section.

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South River Road, it's just over half of a mile.

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And then last but not least, is the entirety of Welsh one road split into two different

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sections.

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And that concludes my piece.

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So I guess I will, down in case there's any public comment.

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Any questions?

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I have a question.

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I have a question.

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I have a question.

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They did paint those lines the very next day, so Fredericksburg Road in 29.

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Yes, they did.

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and they've evident the mode yesterday, real close, but I'm, you know what, I imagine it's

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70 miles now called, trial was just a bit old with 410 feet per second. So if those calls

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were running 70 miles now because no one does 60 when they're coming in the green cannon,

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I mean they're really moving and it's been like, I told you, 34 accidents, and it's 2,019.

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And my wife didn't even see the lines.

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I mean, they're both just wide, man, right there.

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But, you know, only white lines I've ever seen.

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I mean, I've seen lines and everything.

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With lines like that at the airport,

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but you not allow the cross until tasks

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as you clear for takeoff, things like that.

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So, I mean, they really don't help.

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Right. So, after the board meeting last week,

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or I'm sorry, last month, I followed up

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an email to the board and it had the Highway Safety Improvement Program plan that we implemented

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there at the intersection of 609 and 29 which is complete like you noted and then at the

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request of last month's meeting I also have asked one of our on-call consultants to do a traffic

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engineering study of the intersection to see if an R-cut is appropriate for the intersection.

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Now that's just the study portion. Once I have that information I can share it with you and then if you would like to proceed we'll have to determine how to fund the actual improvements for an

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cut. I also shared with you a little bit about what would be required to re-grade 29, which would

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take out the issue of the site distance, which is really what's causing the problem. That would

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until re-grading 29 and, like you mentioned last time, similar project I've been forky or canny

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fit hill that project was $3 million, not impossible, but obviously we would have to just

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discuss pros and cons and determined funding options. I appreciate the V.D. having

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the virtual meeting that they at this past week. I was on that. I enjoyed that.

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Boatize and all of those stuff around the balance.

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Thank you so much for taking care of the problem of 33 or the construction. That was a really painful day.

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I have cut that fix now.

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Thank you for letting us out.

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Any other comments or questions?

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The study for 609 and 29.

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You said you emailed the board.

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Do you email us directly?

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No, I did not.

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Okay, because I do not. I have that email. I actually looked for it today because something that I was going to ask for tonight, so I don't know can somebody get that to me, please whoever.

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I emailed Mark and Jim, but I can certainly

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If that would be easier, whichever is easiest for everybody, it's what we're trying to do.

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Can you use that and just to follow up?

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Because you said that that was something that we could plan to do later on,

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and if we wanted to, it's not affecting this right now.

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This is somewhat separate.

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If you do decide similar to how we put in the median turn line across from the connector road,

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That was secondary six-year plan money that was changed from an using an

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addendum to be dedicated to that project.

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It didn't affect your priorities for your on-page roads.

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So it was kind of outside of that and you may have the opportunity to do that with an

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archive.

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Obviously that's not going to be as expensive as re-grading 29.

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So it's probably a lot more doable in the short term.

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After you've had a chance and we've had a chance to review benefits, pros, cons, and

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click that.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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Can I just ask, what is your timeline on your engineering study to look at that?

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I mean, we're talking months or months?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I think that's likely, yep.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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There was no one signed up for public comment Mr. Bill.

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Do we have anyone at home?

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We do have a session on the screens of anyone at home

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I want to address the second day to six years.

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Your plan, please raise your hand, and we'll give you a moment

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to follow through the instructions on the screen

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and raise your hand at the WCC.

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It does not appear, we have any papers at home.

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Thank you, sir.

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Mr. Chair, what do we need to have a motion on this to adopt it, Ossen?

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Yeah, I can't.

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Any further discussion before I ask for motion?

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I want to make a motion.

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I'll make a motion to approve the secondary six year improvement plan.

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Second, school years, 2023, the 20, 20, 20, 20, 20.

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Second.

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Mr. Bellon, Mr. Lamon, we have a motion to approve.

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We'll call that Mr. Heron.

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Hi. Mr. Lamon.

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This has a nice, Mr. Bellon.

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Hi.

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And the chair about time.

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Thank you very much.

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The next action item is approval of agreement

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between the Thomas Jefferson Planning District Commission

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Firefly and Green County.

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We've gone to the award of beta 2020 funding, Mr. Taylor, and now I am in Australia.

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Madam Chair, I was really a placeholder on the agenda.

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I'm thrilled to see David Blunt here, and I appreciate his work on this.

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I'm forward, please.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Members of the board, David Blunt, with Tom Jefferson Planning District, here to talk to you

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this evening about broadband.

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You always anxious to talk about that.

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As you know we got a early Christmas present I guess last December with about a $79 million grant from the Department of Housing and Community Development, the State to TJPDC for a 13 county regional broadband project, working with Firefly, fire broadband.

482
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:10,680
And since that time we've been working very diligently to do everything we can to meet all the requirements that DHCD has to officially get the project.

483
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:16,260
up and running. And what you have before you tonight in this agreement is one of those requirements.

484
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:22,580
There's a agreement between T.J. PDC as the grantee with Firefly and with Green County.

485
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:29,360
We are in the process of taking this to all of the other 12 jurisdictions that are involved in

486
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:35,280
the project and getting them to sign off on the agreement this month. It basically outlines the various

487
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:42,640
duties and responsibilities of the three entities, for TJPDC, that's managing the grant, providing

488
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:48,440
for the fiscal responsibilities, working with the grant tour at the state level for

489
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,120
firefly.

490
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,260
It's pretty much about construction, fortunately, as well as documentation that we will need

491
00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:55,320
in managing the grant.

492
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,600
And then for Green County, you will note that the agreement does.

493
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:18,720
Does note your nearly $2.7 million in local match that you previously committed to the project, and then speaks to your responsibilities to keep records and pay invoices and generally support the project and help us and firefly to communicate with your community about the project.

494
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:26,260
So I think it's a pretty simple agreement. It has had a lot of legal eyes on it, as well.

495
00:35:26,260 --> 00:35:31,720
especially when I acknowledge Admiral County Attorney's Office for their work on this, our

496
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:38,040
legal counsel at TJPDC, as well as the legal counsel for Firefly, have also had a role in

497
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:44,220
shaping what's before you tonight. So, as I said, I think it's ready to go and here to ask for

498
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:45,380
your approval over this evening.

499
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:50,820
I'm ready to take a motion.

500
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:05,140
I'm moved to be approved to agree between Thomas Justin Plan of District Commission, Firefly, and Green County, regarding the awardee, fatty, 2020 funding.

501
00:36:05,420 --> 00:36:05,600
Okay.

502
00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:12,720
I have a motion by Mr. Heron and second by Mr. Lam to approve this resolution.

503
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,520
We'll call that Mr. Bellman.

504
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:16,100
Ms. Hefflin, aye.

505
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:16,680
Mr. Lam.

506
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:17,800
Mr. Harry.

507
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:19,460
And the chair of the sign.

508
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:20,620
Thank you very much.

509
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:21,200
Thank you.

510
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,140
Thank you.

511
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:36,980
The next action item is a resolution to appropriate fiscal year 2023 budget for the Mr. Taylor and Ms. Morris.

512
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:37,400
Welcome.

513
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Good evening.

514
00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:43,920
In your packet as a resolution to finalize an appropriate fiscal year budget in the amount of

515
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:52,980
$177,168,187 dollars, and that just gives me the authorization to appropriate the funds

516
00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:56,500
to each one of the departments, including the schools and social services.

517
00:36:58,940 --> 00:36:59,600
Any questions?

518
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:11,800
Ms. Morris, when we approved the budget last, or when it was approved by the majority vote last,

519
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:18,040
It was 76 million to 82 to 50 that was in the resolution.

520
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,840
Where did this extra 30 million come from?

521
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:25,320
That amount is excluding the Interfund transfers that are the

522
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,920
Interfunds between Social Services, the schools, and CSA.

523
00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:31,680
When we appropriate the budget, we have to appropriate the total,

524
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:35,220
not including the subtraction of those Interfunds.

525
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:43,120
I do, just because everyone knows where I stand on this

526
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,040
And I've been bringing this up and I'm going to bring it up

527
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,180
one last time before this goes through.

528
00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:53,820
But I've been continually looking at, you know,

529
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:55,500
this is all stuff that's public knowledge,

530
00:37:55,620 --> 00:37:57,180
it's all on our finance page.

531
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,060
We have an extreme increase in our revenue,

532
00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:08,680
this year, compared to previous revenue years.

533
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,360
So, our

534
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:19,050
local source, which is like local sources, personal property, real estate, that stuff, right?

535
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:21,950
That increased by 14%.

536
00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:30,950
So, I have a very hard time thinking that we did not know about what was going to happen with this personal property tax.

537
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:41,730
The previous years were starting in 2015, 5% 3% 5% 6% 4% 3% 5% and then 14.

538
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:48,450
It does not make sense to me, and I think that is something that needs to be said.

539
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:56,050
I also noticed that funds from the Commonwealth and from the Fed have decreased dramatically.

540
00:38:56,050 --> 00:39:02,270
I'm not sure why, so I'll just throw that out there.

541
00:39:03,110 --> 00:39:06,010
I don't understand that, but maybe you can explain,

542
00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:12,870
but I mean, the total difference that went

543
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:25,580
into the general fund was 4.7 million last year, it was 1.6, then there was COVID, but I won't

544
00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:39,240
those, but it was 1.5, and 19, 1.5, and 18, 975, and 17, 1.2, and 16, I don't get it.

545
00:39:39,340 --> 00:39:45,980
And so the conversations that we've had about the personal property tax and not knowing,

546
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:50,920
I just want to make the statement that I don't believe it makes sense.

547
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:59,980
I feel like we knew we have plenty of documentation of various emails that were sent between all of us in the commissioner and

548
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:26,100
Never changed. What he stated that night was the same thing he sent to us. I think it was March 28th. So I am just very upset about this. And I think that this is the right to hear this. So again, this is all public information. And if anyone wants a copy of it, because it is a like information, I'm willing to give it to him.

549
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:34,140
So I don't know, if there's any discussion or comments from the Board that's great but there hasn't been so I don't know.

550
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,740
Just a quick question.

551
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,840
The Board voted five vote for the first of Bargit Tax Read that night.

552
00:40:39,980 --> 00:40:46,080
Can the conversation took place with you that you based the first of Bargit Tax Read any streams on a lower value?

553
00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:47,660
Does that make a mission a revenue?

554
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:48,620
That's correct, right?

555
00:40:48,820 --> 00:40:50,800
That is the idea that was provided to me by the commissioner.

556
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,380
That's correct.

557
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,200
and that's fine, but what about all the other revenue? Like for example, I know our local

558
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:04,400
fines, like court fines and stuff like that. That went up almost a million dollars. Oh and I'm so

559
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,980
glad that you spoke because I forgot to say something very important. I think the, you know, one

560
00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:16,080
of the biggest reasons I'm so upset about this is because this is like a fluke. The personal property

561
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:24,100
tax is a flip. This is a flip here. The excess in the core it fees and finds. That is also

562
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:30,320
a flip. We heard from the commonwealth attorney that they were taking on like triple the amount

563
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:37,200
of cases this year because of COVID last year. So we've spent money that I'm worried we will not

564
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:44,360
have next year and they're being it's being spent on things like salaries, employees, things that we

565
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,720
have to continue funding. So, I don't know,

566
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,920
is a reduction in the state and federal because

567
00:41:55,580 --> 00:42:01,340
it composite index? It depends on the various items that the state and the federal government

568
00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:06,860
fund us. For example, sometimes in the past the Comfort will cut the funding so that can be one

569
00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:11,060
of the reasons for the reduction in funding. It just depends on the programs themselves. For

570
00:42:11,060 --> 00:42:15,460
example, in prior years it was reduced funding for a transit. It can be reduced funding for some

571
00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:18,160
the grants that are approved, it varies from year to year.

572
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,400
It's like what fit the percent is based on the medium income, like Rutgersville, I know

573
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,920
the medium income is higher than West Rutgersville.

574
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:38,040
I know what fit the percent and then there's three areas that they look at in the composite

575
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,640
index.

576
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,520
That's regarding the school funding on the county side is just based on whatever the programs

577
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,880
are the state and the federal government fund for us.

578
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:49,960
And those can be increased or reduced depending upon the programs.

579
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:56,240
For example, the federal funding is the payment and lieu of taxes, which speaks to the federal

580
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:00,720
land and the state, and I have county from the state and federal governments, so that can change

581
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:01,380
from a year to a year.

582
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,520
So they all fluctuate.

583
00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:03,720
It just depends on the programs.

584
00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:12,120
Well, I mean, and like Mrs. Hefflin will say in about the personal property, the NADA releases

585
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,520
is that the first of January to each of you.

586
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,060
We have the questions of the comments.

587
00:43:23,540 --> 00:43:26,440
Is there anyone signed up to speak on this?

588
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,580
I'm not sure this is the public hearing.

589
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,280
I'm not sure.

590
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,780
We get the public hearing.

591
00:43:38,890 --> 00:43:44,950
I'll make a motion to approve a resolution to appropriate the fiscal year 2023 budget as a letter.

592
00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:46,330
I'll second that.

593
00:43:46,330 --> 00:43:51,190
You have a motion by Mr. Bowman and a second by Mr. Herring through.

594
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:54,310
Except this resolution, both of it, Mr. Bowman.

595
00:43:54,650 --> 00:43:54,870
All right.

596
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:55,450
Ms. Heffland.

597
00:43:56,070 --> 00:43:56,090
Nags.

598
00:43:56,970 --> 00:43:58,310
Excuse me, Mr. Lam.

599
00:43:58,510 --> 00:43:59,030
Nags.

600
00:43:59,370 --> 00:43:59,950
Mr. Herring.

601
00:44:00,470 --> 00:44:00,570
All right.

602
00:44:00,810 --> 00:44:01,910
In the chair of our side.

603
00:44:02,210 --> 00:44:03,370
Thank you very much.

604
00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:09,600
Next item is John M.O.U.

605
00:44:09,740 --> 00:44:12,560
Mr. Taylor and Mr. Rick and John.

606
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,280
It's been a chair of the first one I want to thank.

607
00:44:19,460 --> 00:44:28,340
John Tracker, Ted Reak, and Kenny Turner, Ms. Kim, for working together with us on the

608
00:44:28,340 --> 00:44:30,540
memorandum of understanding with John.

609
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:45,200
And lots of input from Supervisor Bowman, we have come to mutually acceptable language for memorandum

610
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:59,960
understanding with John and Green County concerning steps that John will be taking in the next six months on the development of servicing.

611
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,400
Green County MOU has been finalized and it is before you, for approval, the changes have been reviewed by Mr.

612
00:45:09,420 --> 00:45:15,560
Rick, as well, and there are no outstanding issues. Thank you very much.

613
00:45:18,820 --> 00:45:20,420
This is a question.

614
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:26,240
Any questions from the Mr. title on Mr. Rick?

615
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,900
No, I'm Chair, I'm going to answer one question from Mr. Reak.

616
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:39,220
Are you going to wrap the buses that say Green County transit with John and logo and all that?

617
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:39,840
Yes.

618
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:40,540
Yes.

619
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,300
Okay.

620
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:46,220
The other thing that I just wanted to mention for everyone to know,

621
00:45:46,220 --> 00:45:54,760
are going to add at the bottom of our website a link that will go to John to Green County

622
00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:00,060
specifically for the scheduling. So that's going to be coming to the website. So it's easy

623
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:03,920
for citizens to get on there and it's all.

624
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:12,340
Madam Chair, if I could make one other comment. As liaison to the John Board, I attended last

625
00:46:12,340 --> 00:46:21,160
last week, I guess it was, and their community outreach person provided me with business

626
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:29,620
cards with the phone number to contact John and make a reservation as well as the website.

627
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:37,420
And many of those cards are out on the desk right here at the county building.

628
00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:44,200
I've also placed them at the Standardsville Post Office, Great Value, Standardsville Station,

629
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:52,120
the Longerbat and Standardsville, Feeding Green, the Library and Java, the Sheriff's Office,

630
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,200
Social Services, and in the next several days, they'll be at the Council of the Attorney's

631
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,540
Office and at the Health Department.

632
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,920
So I just wanted to make the community aware that if you need to reach a job, there's

633
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,960
the way to do that, that those cards are available, and I will continue to distribute those throughout

634
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,760
the county. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bellman.

635
00:47:14,580 --> 00:47:15,360
Any other comments?

636
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:18,720
That's that. I'll make a answer.

637
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:24,340
After our last days before, let's say to again, after our initial conversations, I've heard more

638
00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:26,340
positive comments than negative.

639
00:47:27,340 --> 00:47:32,380
So I appreciate that. I appreciate all those involved and getting us to this point tonight. Thank you.

640
00:47:32,380 --> 00:47:37,080
Well, that I'll make a motion to prove the MOU as submitted with joint.

641
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:37,600
How's that?

642
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,000
All right.

643
00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:44,240
We have a motion by Mr. Bowlin, a second by Mr. Herring to approve the MOU as presented.

644
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,340
Roll call vote.

645
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,120
Mr. Herring?

646
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:46,500
Aye.

647
00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:47,260
Mr. Lam.

648
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,500
Ms. Haffland?

649
00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:49,780
Mr. Bowlin?

650
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:50,080
Aye.

651
00:47:50,380 --> 00:47:51,500
And the chair votes aye.

652
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,580
Thank you very much.

653
00:47:52,840 --> 00:48:00,560
And Madam Chair, if we could, Mr. Rate, so among the various commitments that John is making

654
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:09,660
and that we very much appreciate with MOU is a commitment and energy concerning promotion of

655
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:10,640
joint services.

656
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:18,000
And it's really because shared a video with us that we would like to share and would also

657
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,580
like to know from him that it would be appropriate for us to post on social media and make

658
00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:26,220
it available through our website as well.

659
00:48:33,220 --> 00:48:36,280
which I hope we can play here for

660
00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:51,030
a long time.

661
00:48:51,650 --> 00:48:51,690
Yeah.

662
00:48:53,710 --> 00:48:55,470
All right, it's blood.

663
00:48:56,610 --> 00:48:57,730
They're gonna fix it.

664
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,480
I actually...

665
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:21,740
Oh,

666
00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:26,990
this may not work as the...

667
00:49:26,990 --> 00:49:27,830
How are we gonna do it?

668
00:49:28,690 --> 00:49:29,210
Okay.

669
00:49:30,190 --> 00:49:30,670
Hold on.

670
00:49:30,670 --> 00:49:34,810
Let me see if I can find it on my phone.

671
00:49:35,290 --> 00:49:36,550
There we don't see it.

672
00:49:52,170 --> 00:49:53,490
Let's do it without a sound.

673
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:55,510
But that's not the real question.

674
00:49:56,030 --> 00:49:58,370
Yeah, I can design perfect if you want to.

675
00:49:58,530 --> 00:49:58,970
That's good.

676
00:50:00,850 --> 00:50:06,370
Mr. Reed, what's the capacity of one of those? 16.

677
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:07,850
16, thank you.

678
00:50:12,140 --> 00:50:12,240
Thank you.

679
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,380
Sorry, I'm so cold.

680
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,720
You need to do what you're in a local TV for the next few weeks.

681
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,000
So, you might catch it the only two.

682
00:50:25,090 --> 00:50:28,390
I think, because of the combination with Zoom,

683
00:50:29,250 --> 00:50:31,370
it either echoes in the room and play on the computer.

684
00:50:31,650 --> 00:50:32,590
I didn't think about that earlier.

685
00:50:32,730 --> 00:50:34,610
Please really, well, I'm at that end of my death.

686
00:50:34,750 --> 00:50:35,530
We're only going to go now.

687
00:50:35,530 --> 00:50:36,450
I

688
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:48,140
think the bottom line is that you're attempting to outreach and this is the media that you're submitting.

689
00:50:48,140 --> 00:50:52,260
We're doing some image building campaign, this is a commercial, you know, I'm

690
00:50:52,260 --> 00:50:52,760
joking.

691
00:50:53,060 --> 00:50:58,320
Can you guys see, uh, uh, uh, introduce this?

692
00:50:58,620 --> 00:50:58,980
Sure.

693
00:50:59,380 --> 00:51:00,460
You've seen us around.

694
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:04,360
But have we been formally introduced since 1975.

695
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:08,800
John's professional operators have offered compassionate and inclusive

696
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,600
transportation for everyone, and in the past two years.

697
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,620
We have delivered essential workers to their jobs.

698
00:51:15,620 --> 00:51:21,540
take in patients the critical health care appointments, shuttle voters to the homes, and health

699
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:28,600
use-day connected. We are grounded in service to our community. Where can John take you?

700
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,900
Hopefully to broadband.

701
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,440
Give Mr. Blanca a ride.

702
00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:45,060
I mean, I just make one statement for sure. I don't know if you're going to stay, Mr.

703
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:53,280
for the presentation under 10B, but the regional transit vision plan is going to be discussed

704
00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:01,030
tonight, and TJPDC, people will be presenting that. I certainly hope long-term

705
00:52:01,540 --> 00:52:10,460
jot becomes part of that regional system, because I think long-term, at least my image

706
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:19,140
of a strategic position hearing green is that it would benefit all of our residents having

707
00:52:19,140 --> 00:52:25,520
the capability of going, basically, throughout Central Virginia, very quickly on a transit

708
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,940
system with small and large hubs of those kind of things.

709
00:52:30,260 --> 00:52:36,620
So I look very much to the presentation and hopefully, John, we'll be part of that down the

710
00:52:36,620 --> 00:52:36,780
road.

711
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Thank you.

712
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:40,780
Any other comments, suggestions?

713
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:48,920
I will be a request from B.A. for a waiver of the noise ordinance.

714
00:52:49,660 --> 00:52:50,860
Mark 10, I can't wait for this.

715
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,900
Yes, Madam Chair, board members.

716
00:52:54,240 --> 00:53:04,300
You received the correspondence from the Commonwealth DOT and that is loaded to your agenda.

717
00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:11,680
An issue, it's requesting a waiver from the county noise

718
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:18,540
ordinance in connection with the proceeding of the 29 and 33 intersection improvements.

719
00:53:20,420 --> 00:53:28,100
Vito is, first of all, Vito has taken outstanding steps since the beginning of the project

720
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:35,120
to do their very utmost to be a good neighbor and to mitigate noise to the extent possible

721
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:42,900
with their project, they had a stage, at least in which they were having a de-water or removed

722
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:49,080
the wall pump of water out of a pond on a continuous basis in order to move their project

723
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:49,480
forward.

724
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:58,320
So they had a pump running day and night that was energized by a generator and that gave

725
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:05,060
rise to a noise concern from a neighbor, my understanding is that the investigation of that

726
00:54:05,060 --> 00:54:13,460
noise complaint yielded their revelation that they were not in violation of the noise

727
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:21,060
ordinance based on decibel measure at the property line or however the enforcement mechanism

728
00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:31,620
was implemented by the sheriff, and on top of that, the B.R. team did all that they could

729
00:54:31,620 --> 00:54:37,800
to mitigate the noise and event using the quietest generator, they had available, etc.

730
00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:50,660
What they've expressed to us is that they commonly find that either in the ordinance

731
00:54:50,660 --> 00:54:59,360
language in the localities or otherwise state and sometimes also local construction activities.

732
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:16,320
Our exempted from the noise ordinance, or receive a waiver from enforcement and noise ordinance, in order to be proceed, able to proceed with public work that is being done for the public benefit at taxpayer expense, as efficiently as possible.

733
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:28,320
And the quid pro quo for that is that they commit, as they have in the communication that they sent to us, that they will do the best they can to mitigate noise along the way.

734
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:46,120
What they hope to avoid is the loss of time and the disruption to progress on the project by having to interact with enforcement on the noise ordinance on a case by case basis.

735
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:48,240
They can commit to do their best.

736
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:56,560
They're spending public money to do a public project for our communities that we don't want to have run over time or over budget.

737
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:05,940
And they would like some consideration from us on this waiver request in relation to the noise

738
00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:13,220
ordinance and ask that the enforcement be suspended as to their project while they're doing

739
00:56:13,220 --> 00:56:15,480
their best to do this project for us.

740
00:56:16,660 --> 00:56:17,020
I have a question.

741
00:56:17,020 --> 00:56:23,540
Then did this complaint come in after the hasn't waste they had three

742
00:56:24,340 --> 00:56:24,980
hazmat

743
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,340
engines down I don't know well it was a spiel or what but they all might not

744
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:37,580
I know that on that before it's time goes Mr. Liam

745
00:56:38,180 --> 00:56:41,080
I thought maybe I was just about the regular generator

746
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:48,360
So that generator to deep water, the palm, the heat, the storm water, and it was continuing

747
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,820
to sound 24 hours a day, and there was some concern about that, but it was well below

748
00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:59,200
the minimum DB that it's even the night time DB is probably the best of it.

749
00:57:01,330 --> 00:57:11,840
I was looking at the map, you know, in the pond down there, I thought they had the re-wrapped

750
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,560
the traffic while they were there, all like, I thought you knew that.

751
00:57:19,010 --> 00:57:22,350
Do they say how long this would go on?

752
00:57:22,550 --> 00:57:24,670
Jim, do you know how long the calendar, I don't know.

753
00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:27,650
The project is almost a full year.

754
00:57:27,810 --> 00:57:33,030
I don't know how long that the most intensive construction will be.

755
00:57:33,850 --> 00:57:37,710
They did say that it's not feasible to do it during the day time,

756
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:41,330
because it would be a several miles back up every morning.

757
00:57:41,330 --> 00:57:45,790
So it's nine time work for, or doesn't get approved.

758
00:57:50,490 --> 00:57:51,390
Any other questions?

759
00:57:52,330 --> 00:57:52,690
comments?

760
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:57,540
I'm Chair.

761
00:57:59,180 --> 00:58:05,440
Because the board also consider, in the current ordinance, there are some exemptions for daytime noise.

762
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:13,060
The board consider adding an exemption for daytime nighttime noise, as Mr. Taylor said, for public works.

763
00:58:13,060 --> 00:58:24,040
The benefit of the public, as an ordinance amendment because there is technically no mechanism for waiver in the ordinance right now.

764
00:58:24,260 --> 00:58:27,460
And that, as Mr. Taylor has pointed out, this is filled with,

765
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:35,420
but just to make it cleaner, but if the board doesn't want to do that, that's something like that.

766
00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:40,100
So you're saying, you suggest we make an amendment to the current ordinance, and what would

767
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,900
you bourgeois be in an amendment?

768
00:58:43,060 --> 00:58:48,460
Well, you currently have an exemption section, but it's specifically for daytime.

769
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:55,240
So we could have a separate section, basically, for daytime night time, you know, construction

770
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,520
public work.

771
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,860
You can certainly phrase it however Mr. Taylor and Boardfills is most appropriate to make

772
00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:06,540
is narrow to this situation as possible.

773
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,640
I don't know if there will be other nighttime construction projects in the future.

774
00:59:14,740 --> 00:59:16,260
Comments for board members.

775
00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:16,980
Can we skip?

776
00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:21,180
Would this be able to be very young tonight?

777
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,640
That's what the point is going to come back with it.

778
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,960
You have to add about education.

779
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:28,220
And that would be a part of the carries that correct.

780
00:59:28,260 --> 00:59:28,860
Yes sir.

781
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,840
And so would it come back to next meeting for another,

782
00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:33,020
how time-sensitive is this particular?

783
00:59:33,020 --> 00:59:38,940
That's in that part of I think the energy behind beatouts requests is that they need this relief.

784
00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:43,420
That's the core we certainly make of. I'm sorry.

785
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,160
Yeah, I'm going to say can't we give them a waiver and then work on the overall.

786
00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:48,800
I take our time.

787
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:49,440
Yeah.

788
00:59:51,740 --> 00:59:59,800
I'll make a motion that we authorize or allow the data to operate there.

789
01:00:00,270 --> 01:00:04,230
Public Works operation there at 29th or 33th as appropriate.

790
01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:08,810
I also have to spend the noise over and over for them for this project.

791
01:00:08,930 --> 01:00:10,450
I'll second that.

792
01:00:10,450 --> 01:00:11,330
We have a motion.

793
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:12,490
Mr. Bellman, a second.

794
01:00:12,850 --> 01:00:15,230
Mr. Hearing, roll call, a bit, Mr. Bellman.

795
01:00:15,630 --> 01:00:15,850
Aye.

796
01:00:15,850 --> 01:00:16,750
Ms. Halfland, aye.

797
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:17,490
Ms. Lam.

798
01:00:18,130 --> 01:00:18,770
Mr. Hearing.

799
01:00:19,350 --> 01:00:20,230
In the chair of the council.

800
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:21,390
Thank you very much.

801
01:00:21,690 --> 01:00:22,150
Madam Chair.

802
01:00:22,410 --> 01:00:22,570
Yes.

803
01:00:22,750 --> 01:00:28,530
And I think, and I'll just second with, I think, the several is getting that.

804
01:00:28,530 --> 01:00:39,250
I think we ought to put a waiver clause if you will in our ordinance that makes a statement similar to that that we authorize.

805
01:00:39,590 --> 01:00:49,270
The Board can authorize suspension or a waiver with it entails a public works project that is important to the county and the citizens.

806
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:50,070
I

807
01:00:52,660 --> 01:00:58,480
want to refer it to be a way of, or instead of a blanket, do whatever you want.

808
01:00:58,780 --> 01:01:00,500
Yeah, no, it needs to be a way of absence.

809
01:01:02,750 --> 01:01:03,830
The problem with that?

810
01:01:04,110 --> 01:01:04,450
With the cross?

811
01:01:04,770 --> 01:01:05,790
And then bring that back.

812
01:01:06,270 --> 01:01:08,090
And have the hearings and you go through the process.

813
01:01:08,610 --> 01:01:09,090
Thank you.

814
01:01:11,740 --> 01:01:13,740
All right, next will be our presentation.

815
01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:17,440
We have a hazard mitigation plan of date.

816
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,100
We have a backstuff plan.

817
01:01:19,340 --> 01:01:21,700
We're going to time this down with the planning for district commission.

818
01:01:22,020 --> 01:01:22,700
Please come forward.

819
01:01:26,010 --> 01:01:26,170
Welcome.

820
01:01:26,170 --> 01:01:32,490
Thank you. Thank you, Mount Chair and members of the board. My name is Ian Baxter. I'm a planner at the Thomas Jefferson Planning District Mission.

821
01:01:32,590 --> 01:01:39,650
Tonight, I'm here to talk to you about our current hazard mitigation plan update that's going on for the 2023 edition of the plan.

822
01:01:40,310 --> 01:01:48,150
So I'm going to go over some high level details about the plan and then answer any questions you'll have and kind of map out a roadmap of where this will be going in the next 69 months.

823
01:01:50,820 --> 01:01:56,920
So the major really the main purpose of the natural hazard mitigation plan is to prepare for natural disasters before they occur.

824
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:02,740
So we're looking to reduce loss of life, property damage and disruption of commerce and economic

825
01:02:02,740 --> 01:02:07,140
activity, but also there's an incentive for localities to have one of these adopted

826
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:12,420
FEMA requires natural hazard mitigation plans as condition for eligibility of a certain

827
01:02:12,420 --> 01:02:17,840
mitigation grant program funds and those are primarily disaster response mitigation funds.

828
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:24,000
So we work with FEMA and VDEM to conduct this plan update every five years.

829
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:30,720
So currently right now, Green County has an adopted 2018 has a mitigation plan, and so this is the update on that plan.

830
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:38,100
And the state itself has their own hazard mitigation plan that fulfills sort of the same criteria and conditions for FEMA.

831
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:43,660
Within the plan, there are six sections that won't go through each in too much detail.

832
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,940
I probably will emphasize three and four as what I'll be talking about most this evening.

833
01:02:48,940 --> 01:02:53,840
But generally speaking, the plan outlines a details about the community.

834
01:02:53,980 --> 01:02:56,340
Again, we're doing this on behalf of our planning district.

835
01:02:56,580 --> 01:03:01,200
So the six localities that comprise the GJPDC within the community profile.

836
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:06,440
There's information about housing, transportation, economic characteristics, and geographic,

837
01:03:07,580 --> 01:03:11,580
topographic information that would be relevant to national hazard discussion.

838
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,900
There's also a hazard identification and analysis section.

839
01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:17,680
I'll show you more details about that in a moment.

840
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:27,680
But it's essentially a ranking of the relative risk that natural hazards pose in our region and that's informed by a working group that we have that the TJPDC

841
01:03:28,540 --> 01:03:44,660
Put together at the beginning of this plan update in 2021, which is made up of members of each staff from each locality in the planning district, as well as other stakeholders and state experts. And so it's primarily emergency management staff and planning staff from each of the counties in the city.

842
01:03:44,660 --> 01:03:48,600
And so they help determine that relative ranking.

843
01:03:48,780 --> 01:03:51,100
And I'll show you some of the data actually included in your package.

844
01:03:51,580 --> 01:03:55,860
Some examples of some of the data that that group used to make that determination.

845
01:03:56,700 --> 01:03:59,380
Following that, there's a vulnerability in capabilities assessment,

846
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,600
so essentially an analysis of the impact that natural hazards

847
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,980
can have not only on citizens of the planning district,

848
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,720
but also on economic activity.

849
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:13,320
And we use a few pieces of software to run various hazards scenarios

850
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:18,020
to basically get an idea of how bad a natural hazard would be under current conditions.

851
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,080
So how much, you know, loss of life and estimate economic damages.

852
01:04:22,540 --> 01:04:27,440
A capabilities assessment is a brief survey of each localities capacity to respond

853
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:32,240
to these natural hazards, and then the mitigation strategy section, each locality that adopts

854
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:38,800
the plan, basically produces a list of mitigation action items, which are essentially aspirations

855
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:44,500
are the next five years of sort of how they will engage with being proactive about natural

856
01:04:44,500 --> 01:04:49,380
hazard. So there's a variety of different strategies in there and I'll talk a little bit

857
01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:53,360
about what each of those action items looks like but again those were provided to me by

858
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:59,980
locality staff. So Green County staff updated the 2018 plan action items and generated new ones.

859
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,940
For the 2023 plan. And this is just a brief summary of the timeline I was talking a little bit about earlier.

860
01:05:08,220 --> 01:05:13,740
We are currently in the midst of the public comment on the draft plan, so it's available for public comment on the TJPDC website.

861
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:20,020
I'd be happy to reset that over that information, but that'll be up for public comment until June 30th.

862
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,000
But as you can see, we've had a few instances in an opportunity for public engagement.

863
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,840
and we had a public survey that got almost 250 responses from residents all across the

864
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,960
planning district and all six of our localities as well as a public meeting in early February.

865
01:05:33,580 --> 01:05:39,500
But we've primarily been working with LAPCs across the region and emergency management and

866
01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:43,580
planning staff from mutual localities. And so the plan is in the summer after the public

867
01:05:43,580 --> 01:05:48,360
common period ends, submits a VDEM and then FEMA and then come back to you all for formal adoption,

868
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,640
which I'll speak to you to speak about in a moment. So this is the high road that I was describing.

869
01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:58,580
essentially, it's informed by data on events such as frequency, duration, and severity.

870
01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:03,040
And we use a risk matrix that's developed, that is developed by Kaiser Permanente.

871
01:06:04,180 --> 01:06:06,680
This is a little hard to see on this screen, but it's included in your packet.

872
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:12,280
Essentially the process for this was each locality was sent one of these matrices.

873
01:06:12,580 --> 01:06:18,200
They filled it out, and I compiled those scores into one region-wide high run.

874
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:22,160
So what you'll be able to see in the appendix of the plan, the draft plan is each of

875
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:27,020
emissions from each of the localities. Obviously there's some variation depending on topographic

876
01:06:27,020 --> 01:06:31,420
and geographic features of each of the localities, for example, flooding might be a high

877
01:06:31,420 --> 01:06:36,240
risk in one and then wildfire. But I will say that this higher ranking with the exception

878
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:41,900
of the communicable disease section, which was added to the plan after the COVID-19 pandemic

879
01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:48,400
by FEMA, the order of these hazards in change. The scores slightly varied, but we're looking

880
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,800
primarily at hurricanes, high winds and wind storms, flooding, and winter storms, and whether

881
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:57,960
as the top three relative risk hazards in our planning district.

882
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,760
And I'm not going to go, especially not, because I can barely even see any of this, but

883
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:05,000
a lot.

884
01:07:05,060 --> 01:07:06,620
This data is included in your packet.

885
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,820
And this is just a brief overview and sample of the type of data that we use to inform

886
01:07:10,820 --> 01:07:11,300
the Hyrah.

887
01:07:11,820 --> 01:07:18,660
You'll notice a lot of it is weather data, frequency, economic damage, a lot of maps that document,

888
01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:30,280
For example, the amount of dams in the region, the assessment made on those by DCR about how high risk they are, maps of, let me see, there's a better example of this.

889
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:40,160
Yeah, there's a lot of information that we were able to get from the Virginia Department of Health and Blue Rich Health District for the communicable disease and pandemic chapter, considering that was a new feature of the plan.

890
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:46,160
But again, I want to, that section also is not just about the, about COVID-19, it covers

891
01:07:46,980 --> 01:07:48,500
communicable diseases more generally.

892
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,400
And so I'm just going to get to the side that has the data because I can't read that.

893
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,560
So there's a real variety of the sources that we use to inform this, and you'll notice

894
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:04,800
that's primarily a mix of federal and state resources, but we were corresponding pretty closely

895
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,640
with some folks at, for example, Department of Forestry, DCR, the Virginia Department

896
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:15,520
energy and be not to make sure that we had as as recent data as we possibly could.

897
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,660
It doesn't hurt that UVA is also in the planning district and they have a lot of great

898
01:08:18,660 --> 01:08:23,900
resources that we're able to utilize, but you know your typical national federal data sources

899
01:08:23,900 --> 01:08:27,980
like the National Weather Service, N-O-A, that kind of thing, that was what was made available

900
01:08:27,980 --> 01:08:33,300
to the working group to make that determination. Again this is the hazard vulnerability assessment.

901
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,900
So if the high-rise, the relative risk pose, this is essentially how damaging those

902
01:08:37,900 --> 01:08:39,780
relative risks will be for the planning district.

903
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,180
And what I was sort of referring to earlier is some of the software that we have access

904
01:08:44,180 --> 01:08:49,740
to through FEMA, as a piece of software called Hazus, which is a proprietary software that

905
01:08:49,740 --> 01:08:50,460
FEMA maintains.

906
01:08:50,620 --> 01:08:55,580
And it's able to produce a lot of really cool and easy to read maps about potential damages

907
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,360
from natural hazard.

908
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:03,200
So what's before you now is basically a model based on Hurricane Fran, which came through

909
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,880
in 1996, or came near the planning district in 1996, which is also the equivalent

910
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:13,640
of a 200-year event, which is a phrase basically means that this severity would happen once

911
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:19,200
in every two years, or 200 years, approximately, and so you'll notice this is an easy way

912
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,300
if really, you know, quickly determining where the academic damages from that storm were,

913
01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:26,700
and they were, in this case, primarily, in the eastern and south eastern part of the eastern.

914
01:09:28,140 --> 01:09:33,680
And again, this piece of software can be used to determine flood risk or flood vulnerability.

915
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:38,680
So you'll notice this is the town of Scottsville in Southern Alborr County on the left.

916
01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:44,760
The colors indicate the amount of estimated economic damage associated with 100 year flood event.

917
01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:47,360
And then on the right, a flood depth.

918
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:52,840
So from the basin of the river to where the flood would crest within that town.

919
01:09:54,340 --> 01:09:56,260
I'm not even going to, this is a wildfire map.

920
01:09:56,500 --> 01:09:59,760
It looks a lot better in the report and we break this down for each, but basically.

921
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,420
This is from the sudden group of foursters, and it's essentially a burn probability for the planning district.

922
01:10:06,620 --> 01:10:11,300
And you'll notice that most of that actually is within green and outmoral.

923
01:10:11,820 --> 01:10:19,600
And so the last thing I'll say is the mitigation action item, so included in your packet are the proposed 2023 actions for green county.

924
01:10:20,700 --> 01:10:29,700
Again, these are aspirational, you know, they're not obviously tied to any ordinance, but this is sort of what county staff estimated, or at least would want to get accomplished.

925
01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:36,040
over the next five years. So the table you can see it refers to specific hazard. It has an estimated

926
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:42,040
cost, funding method, implementations schedule, and the county staff provides priority. So

927
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:48,240
high-medium or low priority. And then I will leave you sort of with the next steps. Like I said earlier,

928
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:53,160
the draft plan is currently up for public comment until the 30th of this month. After that, we'll be

929
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:58,200
submitting it to Vietnam and FEMA. Both of those have month or month and a half review periods.

930
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,000
So the next, you know, five, six months of this

931
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,760
is sort of just going to be waiting to hear back

932
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,380
from the state and federal agencies.

933
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,500
But then we'll be coming before you in 2023

934
01:11:08,500 --> 01:11:11,980
in the early part of 2023 to ask for a formal adoption

935
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:12,900
through Norton.

936
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,080
So we're going around to all of the planning,

937
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,100
or sorry, all of the board supervisors, town councils,

938
01:11:19,340 --> 01:11:22,020
and city councils to present on the plan

939
01:11:22,020 --> 01:11:24,200
sort of give you an idea of what we've been doing,

940
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:26,160
didn't want to just show up with something

941
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,560
for you all to adopt in six months.

942
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,880
but that is all I have and I would be happy to answer any questions.

943
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,140
But don't you feel like, well, in 1969,

944
01:11:36,660 --> 01:11:38,280
I had a flood up in Nelson County.

945
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,440
I was a little strange.

946
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,340
I mean, it's odd that just that,

947
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:46,620
it's like 30 some inches of rain.

948
01:11:47,780 --> 01:11:50,140
And then, but today with electronics,

949
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,780
like you said, you just said something about the national weather alert,

950
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:56,380
I get that on my phone all the time.

951
01:11:56,380 --> 01:12:02,300
You say these people's lives and you know, but it's amazing.

952
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:07,900
Yeah, I will say a considerable amount of localities part of their mitigation action items

953
01:12:07,900 --> 01:12:13,080
is improving emergency emergency communication, so making sure that people have reliable, even

954
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,480
people without cell phones have reliable access to information, because you're angry, it definitely

955
01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:17,660
can save many things.

956
01:12:17,660 --> 01:12:17,880
Many things.

957
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:18,380
A lot of things.

958
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:20,340
Madam Chair.

959
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:20,900
Yes.

960
01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:29,680
Quick question, how does this, if at all, interface with FEMA's community resilience program?

961
01:12:30,940 --> 01:12:33,360
I don't know, I don't know the exact answer that question to be honest.

962
01:12:34,020 --> 01:12:35,020
I'd be happy to look into it.

963
01:12:35,140 --> 01:12:38,940
I imagine that they have similarities and they probably complement one another, but I don't

964
01:12:38,940 --> 01:12:40,900
know off the top of my head the answer to that.

965
01:12:40,980 --> 01:12:47,560
I think the resiliency program is trying to make communities more resilient to natural disasters,

966
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:49,820
and I would think that there would be a link there.

967
01:12:49,820 --> 01:12:55,560
So if you would just take a look at that in terms of what they what they talk about terms of resilience

968
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,880
Yeah, definitely. I think that this sort of serves as a base document for all of the firm

969
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:03,520
So you sort of establish the natural hazards and then you can move up to resiliency

970
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:18,680
You know adaptation measures that kind of thing. Could I be able to look at that because I think that this is a great base document and deals with how do you

971
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,300
community because resilient when something doesn't fact happen.

972
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:24,820
Yeah.

973
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:25,940
The questions comments.

974
01:13:26,500 --> 01:13:26,960
Thanks a lot.

975
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:29,800
Thank you very much.

976
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:30,140
Thank you all.

977
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:30,960
Thank you.

978
01:13:32,340 --> 01:13:32,940
Thank you.

979
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:33,820
Thank you.

980
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:36,700
Okay.

981
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,140
Next presentation is the original transit vision plant update.

982
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:42,520
We're still in the center of the town.

983
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,080
Thomas Jefferson planning district permission.

984
01:13:46,180 --> 01:13:46,880
He's gone for a

985
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,360
long time.

986
01:13:53,580 --> 01:13:53,600
Hi.

987
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,440
Thank you for allowing me time on your agenda.

988
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:05,340
of this evening, it's a pleasure to be here before you, this is my first time.

989
01:14:06,140 --> 01:14:10,560
And as you heard, I'm listening to Shannon, I'm with the Thomas Jefferson Planning District

990
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:11,100
Commission.

991
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,140
I'm going to talk about the regional transit vision plan.

992
01:14:15,460 --> 01:14:16,480
Do I have a presentation?

993
01:14:16,860 --> 01:14:17,260
We do.

994
01:14:17,420 --> 01:14:19,960
And you should be able to talk to the other person.

995
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:20,360
Awesome.

996
01:14:20,860 --> 01:14:21,520
Thank you.

997
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:34,220
I'm going to go over a little bit of background about the project and talk with you.

998
01:14:36,740 --> 01:14:43,420
about the planet itself, the statement and goals that we've come up with, their drafts.

999
01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:46,200
So we're here today to review them with the community.

1000
01:14:46,980 --> 01:14:53,380
We're going to talk about the vision concepts, which is the network and the services that we envision for the future for this region.

1001
01:14:54,020 --> 01:14:59,320
And then we'll talk about the engagement strategy that we're embarking upon now.

1002
01:14:59,320 --> 01:14:59,960
and

1003
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:12,700
And then we'll have questions and answers. So, just a little bit of background, Albumarl County and the City of Charlottesville asked the TJPDC to develop a regional transit vision plan.

1004
01:15:12,980 --> 01:15:23,620
We applied for a grant from the Department of Rail and Public Transportation and received funding to hire consultants to create a vision plan for the entire region.

1005
01:15:23,620 --> 01:15:30,860
Album Royal County in the City of Charlottesville were kind enough to support the plan with 50% match funding.

1006
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,320
During the public involvement period, when we first started,

1007
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:44,160
the rural counties asked to be involved and they wanted more involvement with the plan itself,

1008
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:51,240
so that's why we're here today talking with you and we've been communicating with staff as well throughout the process.

1009
01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:04,360
I put a lot of slides in your package because I wanted to make sure that you had everything

1010
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,560
that we had.

1011
01:16:06,020 --> 01:16:10,040
I'm not going to go through everything in depth, but if you do have a question or you want

1012
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:15,200
to cover something more fully, I'm happy to pause and go over that with you.

1013
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:26,160
So just to go over the plan, it started in the summer of 2021 with assessing the situation,

1014
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:32,340
and the consultants looked at my eyes aren't as great as they used to be.

1015
01:16:32,860 --> 01:16:34,600
So they looked at the existing systems.

1016
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:41,340
They looked at the land use planning and the transit market potential for the entire region

1017
01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:46,520
and kind of assessed where it would be a good place for transit to be.

1018
01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:51,840
They also identified they worked with the public and identified goals and visions for the region

1019
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:57,140
plan and kind of priorities of what this community wants to see for a vision plan for

1020
01:16:57,140 --> 01:17:05,460
transit and the they solicited community input and engage the stakeholders. We had a public

1021
01:17:05,460 --> 01:17:13,180
meeting, a stakeholder meeting, a survey, and many conversations with stakeholders as well.

1022
01:17:13,740 --> 01:17:20,400
And so right now we're at the Green Circle which is developed and evaluate. So the consultants

1023
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:26,940
developed a kind of draft vision plan and right now we're engaging the public and stakeholders

1024
01:17:26,940 --> 01:17:35,380
and all of you in talking about what they see for the vision and the network and then they'll

1025
01:17:35,380 --> 01:17:41,460
make changes based on those recommendations from the community and have a recommendation for you

1026
01:17:41,460 --> 01:17:42,160
in August.

1027
01:17:45,190 --> 01:17:52,430
I want to kind of give a big picture of these studies and where we plan to go

1028
01:17:52,510 --> 01:17:58,430
with the community. So I don't know if any of you have heard about the transit governance

1029
01:17:58,430 --> 01:18:07,730
study has anybody heard about that. So the vision plan is the first step and it'll

1030
01:18:07,730 --> 01:18:12,350
kind of create like what we would like to see in our community for public transportation.

1031
01:18:13,390 --> 01:18:18,710
And then the second step is a governance study and that would tell us how we could afford to pay

1032
01:18:18,710 --> 01:18:26,510
it and that would also tell us if we do bring in more revenue how we would decide on how to

1033
01:18:26,510 --> 01:18:32,350
spend that revenue as a community and evaluate the effectiveness of that as a community

1034
01:18:32,350 --> 01:18:40,390
as a region. So right now we're just coming to you kind of with the vision of what we could have

1035
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:47,450
for a transit network for the region and then next we applied for a DRPT grant and we just received

1036
01:18:47,450 --> 01:18:54,870
word that we are funded to conduct a governance study after the vision plan which was start

1037
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:56,190
hopefully in July.

1038
01:19:01,150 --> 01:19:05,630
So that's kind of that and I'll talk a little bit more about how we plan

1039
01:19:05,630 --> 01:19:13,630
on funding these services in this presentation as well. So the vision statement that the consultants

1040
01:19:13,630 --> 01:19:19,550
came up with, there were three main themes that we heard from the community. Equity was the first

1041
01:19:19,550 --> 01:19:26,910
one expanding opportunities for all residents and the plan represents the needs of both urban

1042
01:19:26,910 --> 01:19:31,930
and rural communities. I was really pleased we all were really pleased to hear that the rural

1043
01:19:31,930 --> 01:19:36,350
communities were engaged in this and wanted to be more involved in the vision plan.

1044
01:19:38,190 --> 01:19:44,430
Multimodality was the second goal or theme that we heard from the community, and it was

1045
01:19:44,430 --> 01:19:52,210
to reduce reliance on automobiles. And the third theme that emerged was climate change, and that

1046
01:19:52,210 --> 01:19:53,650
to help protect the environment.

1047
01:19:58,260 --> 01:19:59,380
So, um...

1048
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:10,420
The consultants and TJPDC staff conducted a three-day workshop with the Transit providers, John, Kat, and UTS.

1049
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,280
We've been working with them all along throughout the plan.

1050
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:24,340
And we came up with a two proposals, kind of, and we called them a network, but it's basically bus routes.

1051
01:20:24,340 --> 01:20:38,600
And so the first vision or network is a constrained vision, and that's where we looked at and we talked with our advisory committee, the regional transit partnership, and came up with a budget.

1052
01:20:39,180 --> 01:20:49,860
And what we did was we looked at similar kind of strategies that other communities use to provide these types of services.

1053
01:20:49,860 --> 01:20:57,580
and we looked at the Central Virginia Transportation Authority's funding plan and we

1054
01:20:57,580 --> 01:21:03,960
compared that to our region and came up with a budget of about $26 million in regional

1055
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:09,200
funding for transit. So if we were able to enact something similar to what Central

1056
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:13,800
Virginia Transportation Authority is doing in our community, we would be able to

1057
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:22,200
in about that much money. And that's what we based our constrained vision on the first network.

1058
01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:27,860
The second network that we kind of proposed and came up with was an unconstrained vision,

1059
01:21:27,860 --> 01:21:33,680
and that's where we wanted to be innovative and forward thinking and just kind of, you know,

1060
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:41,660
the budget is no limit. So we also came up with that. So with these plans,

1061
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:51,720
This is just kind of a demonstration of the amount of service that we could increase if we were able to kind of,

1062
01:21:51,740 --> 01:21:55,520
if the governance study is successful and we were able to bring in more money for transit.

1063
01:21:56,700 --> 01:21:59,400
So the first group is the baseline.

1064
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:06,060
And this is what the met what we're measuring here is the number of service hours.

1065
01:22:06,060 --> 01:22:11,560
is like the useful hours that a transit vehicle is on the road and that's typically what

1066
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:16,680
transit agencies use to measure the effectiveness of the service.

1067
01:22:17,380 --> 01:22:24,940
So the first amount is about $100,000 a year, 100, sorry, 100,000 hours a year of services.

1068
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:33,720
If we enacted the constrained vision, we would be able to have about 125, we would increase

1069
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:45,320
to 125%, and then if we had the ultimate unconstrained vision, it would increase 422%, so we're

1070
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,320
really looking at increasing some transit services.

1071
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:55,620
I'm going to skip this. This is kind

1072
01:22:55,620 --> 01:23:03,240
of, unless you guys speak up, kind of a definition of different types of transit services,

1073
01:23:04,660 --> 01:23:07,940
And I'm excited to show you the maps.

1074
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:19,220
So this here is the first map is the baseline.

1075
01:23:20,140 --> 01:23:23,700
That's this is what we currently have for services.

1076
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,780
So we have some John had some connect services out

1077
01:23:28,780 --> 01:23:32,760
to the rural counties through their commuter service.

1078
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:38,160
And then they have, most of the counties have a circulator service where you are able to

1079
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,940
call a couple days ahead of time and get rides within the counties.

1080
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:54,860
And this is the map of the constrained version so that would increase frequencies on some

1081
01:23:54,860 --> 01:23:55,760
of the routes.

1082
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:08,340
Route 7 would operate every 20 minutes, route 2, A, B and 4 would operate every 30 minutes and route 2, A and B would combine and provide service every 15 minutes.

1083
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:25,740
So we're increasing the availability. The big thing with this is that it would, instead of doing service five days a week, it would give service seven days a week and it would be from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m.

1084
01:24:25,740 --> 01:24:29,600
which is expanding the amount of services,

1085
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,040
like the number of hours that we would have.

1086
01:24:34,260 --> 01:24:36,560
So here's another way to look at it.

1087
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,000
This is the existing circulator services,

1088
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,720
and you can see the orange is green county.

1089
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:49,080
So they have services from 835 pm Monday through Friday.

1090
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:59,960
And then, with the constrained version, you would have services all the way through, actually, they do have it on.

1091
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:15,330
Sunday as well. From 7 to 8 p.m. I'm just kind of showing in several different ways the maps and charts

1092
01:25:15,330 --> 01:25:21,090
of how the service would be expanded. So this is the unconstrained version. And again, we have

1093
01:25:21,090 --> 01:25:27,250
the existing network currently, and then the proposed

1094
01:25:27,250 --> 01:25:31,550
unconstrained version, which would have a fixed route

1095
01:25:31,550 --> 01:25:37,630
running out to Rucker still every 60 minutes,

1096
01:25:38,430 --> 01:25:39,710
Monday through Saturday.

1097
01:25:43,050 --> 01:25:45,770
And then it would also, for the other rural counties,

1098
01:25:46,130 --> 01:25:47,690
there are those fixed routes too.

1099
01:25:47,690 --> 01:25:50,570
And they're all every 60 minutes, seven days a week.

1100
01:25:56,340 --> 01:26:03,180
So for Green County, this all-day fixed route service from Rutgersville to Charlottesville

1101
01:26:03,180 --> 01:26:11,980
would add services to 3% of residents, and it would also reach 11% more jobs in the county.

1102
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,800
It's not a lot, but it is a start, it's a beginning.

1103
01:26:16,620 --> 01:26:19,260
And then we would also have improved

1104
01:26:19,260 --> 01:26:22,100
Drought Circulator Services, expanding the hours

1105
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,300
to 13 hours a day and seven days a week.

1106
01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:35,120
And then what we're doing right now is engaging the community.

1107
01:26:36,260 --> 01:26:39,320
So this is the second phase of our engagement strategy.

1108
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:45,400
We are, our goals for it is to confirm the vision

1109
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,660
and the goals that I listed earlier.

1110
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:56,400
And then share the networks with the community and gather feedback on if they think these services are good enough.

1111
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,240
If they would like more, if there's something different that they'd like to see.

1112
01:27:00,980 --> 01:27:05,620
We're presenting to all of the local elected bodies in our region.

1113
01:27:06,580 --> 01:27:12,320
We launched a survey on June 9th, and I hope everybody takes the survey and shares it with their friends.

1114
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,860
I have some flyers here, and I'm sure you may have seen the flyers already.

1115
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:23,880
they've kind of been out, we're updating the project website so we have quite a bit on the

1116
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:30,600
project website with these networks and maps and charts and everything and this week and

1117
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:38,840
next week we'll be conducting focus groups, we're reaching out to bus riders and yesterday we were

1118
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:46,280
in Nelson County with Jabba talking with senior residents about their needs for transit, we're

1119
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:51,680
surveying bus riders in person at the Transit Center, and we're going to hold a public meeting

1120
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:58,920
on June 23rd at 6.30 p.m. after the Regional Transit Partnership meeting, it's a Zoom meeting,

1121
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:06,000
so people can attend from anywhere. And July will be completing our local presentations,

1122
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:11,640
will be updating the website, and then in August we'll hold a final meeting to present the final

1123
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:17,620
recommendations to the regional transit partnership and present the completed plan then.

1124
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:23,180
So any questions?

1125
01:28:24,500 --> 01:28:25,200
I have a question.

1126
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:30,540
Because they do, I know demographics and things like that when they study in businesses,

1127
01:28:31,420 --> 01:28:38,100
but I know they do accounts on how many people work in this area, how many people live

1128
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:39,880
in this area would travel outside?

1129
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:41,220
Yeah.

1130
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,720
So that was actually the first thing that they did was they looked at where they were

1131
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:54,480
Where people live, where they need to travel to, and that's how we came up with the 11% increase

1132
01:28:54,480 --> 01:29:02,120
to jobs in Green County, we had a map of where the job access to jobs are and compared

1133
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:07,900
that to where the transit routes would go, and where people could take the bus to those jobs.

1134
01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:09,900
Thank you.

1135
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:12,780
You look questions.

1136
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,000
On minutes.

1137
01:29:15,660 --> 01:29:17,180
You see those things have been up in my mind.

1138
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,960
I think I think outside of the box.

1139
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:20,380
We're down.

1140
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,420
Well, I mean, that's a magnetic.

1141
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,820
You know what I mean?

1142
01:29:29,860 --> 01:29:30,140
You know what I mean?

1143
01:29:30,140 --> 01:29:31,400
Japan hasn't.

1144
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,060
I guess I have a couple of questions.

1145
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:36,280
A lot of questions.

1146
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:46,600
But when you say multimodal, what are you talking about, can you give us a list of what you are looking at?

1147
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:56,180
Well, one of the things with public transit is there are a lot of different ways to travel.

1148
01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:59,960
Most of us get in our car and we drive to where we're going and we park and walk.

1149
01:30:02,020 --> 01:30:29,960
So, multimodal would be thinking about alternatives to private vehicles. So, taking the bus, one of the things with the vision plan that we're working on is proposing micro transit service. So that would be something like Uber or Lyft, but it would be a public service. So it would be subsidized and run by a transit agency.

1150
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:34,800
So there would be those types of services would be a multi-model.

1151
01:30:35,620 --> 01:30:38,820
If you're going to take public transit,

1152
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,920
you need to be able to walk to your destination or to the bus stop.

1153
01:30:43,460 --> 01:30:45,920
So that would be multi-model would be walking

1154
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:50,100
or riding your bike to the transit station or your destination

1155
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:51,160
from transit.

1156
01:30:54,060 --> 01:30:57,600
So it multi-model is kind of a little bit of everything.

1157
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:04,380
Okay. Does it include light rail? Does it include those kinds of things? Because I've always thought

1158
01:31:04,380 --> 01:31:10,560
that down 29 would be ideal place to put a light rail rapid trip all the way down.

1159
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:17,800
Yeah, I would love to see that. So the TJPDC did do a study on that and the consultants took that into

1160
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:24,560
account when they're doing this study here. I think that what they want to do is propose things that

1161
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:33,940
community will accept and can be funded. So right now they are proposing a bus rapid transit

1162
01:31:33,940 --> 01:31:41,080
up and down route 29 so there would be service up to the airport. So from Charlottesville

1163
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:49,080
on route 29 up to the airport with 15 minutes service, so you wait 15 minutes for each bus to come

1164
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:56,540
And hopefully, at some point, if that was to happen, we would be able to create a dedicated

1165
01:31:56,540 --> 01:32:03,180
lane or maybe have the lights work on switches so that the buses wouldn't have to stop

1166
01:32:03,180 --> 01:32:03,680
at the lights.

1167
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,660
And it would be faster than traveling and traveling in your vehicle.

1168
01:32:07,260 --> 01:32:13,700
So would he like a light rail, but it would be less investment, less capital investment, for

1169
01:32:13,700 --> 01:32:15,920
the community to pay for it?

1170
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:24,300
I may have missed it. What is the year outlook? Is this five year tenure plan? What's the horizon you're looking at?

1171
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:29,900
This is looking, well, so it's looking at 40 years.

1172
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:42,860
But the governance study will end in October of 2023, and if we are successful, we can start looking at enacting pieces of this.

1173
01:32:42,860 --> 01:32:45,860
five, ten years maybe?

1174
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:47,940
Okay, thank you.

1175
01:32:47,980 --> 01:32:48,520
Mm-hmm.

1176
01:32:50,540 --> 01:32:51,100
You know the questions?

1177
01:32:52,660 --> 01:32:54,280
Thank you very much for your presentation.

1178
01:32:54,580 --> 01:32:56,500
We look forward to hearing future plans.

1179
01:32:56,900 --> 01:32:57,320
Thank you.

1180
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:57,960
Thank

1181
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:00,520
you.

1182
01:33:00,860 --> 01:33:04,960
The presentation will be the assessment process and maintenance of the local

1183
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,120
real property valuation data.

1184
01:33:07,380 --> 01:33:09,640
This appears to appear some crisis service.

1185
01:33:09,860 --> 01:33:10,480
Please come forward.

1186
01:33:15,110 --> 01:33:15,590
Stay warm.

1187
01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:16,930
Good to see you there.

1188
01:33:16,930 --> 01:33:19,970
Yeah, I'm Fred Pearson with Piers and the Fraser Service.

1189
01:33:20,670 --> 01:33:25,950
I wanted to thank the Board for, I've had an opportunity to work with a green candidate

1190
01:33:25,950 --> 01:33:31,050
for 40 years off and on doing assessment work and I really appreciate that.

1191
01:33:31,050 --> 01:33:33,910
You have a beautiful county here and a lot of very nice people.

1192
01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:43,110
We did your last reassessment in 2020, and went in effect in 2021,

1193
01:33:45,130 --> 01:33:46,750
after we did the reassessment

1194
01:33:46,750 --> 01:33:52,050
In 2021, in most places, Riddler State took a very large increase.

1195
01:33:53,390 --> 01:33:56,650
I would say on average probably 15% on homes.

1196
01:33:59,290 --> 01:34:01,390
You usually do one every two years.

1197
01:34:01,630 --> 01:34:05,290
You might be looking at doing another one for the same work.

1198
01:34:06,090 --> 01:34:10,970
Right now, to go in effect for January 1st, 2023.

1199
01:34:13,690 --> 01:34:19,590
We had some inquiries about doing a site visit for the properties.

1200
01:34:21,130 --> 01:34:24,690
There's just a tremendous amount of counties up for a re-opraisal right now for

1201
01:34:25,470 --> 01:34:30,090
2000, 23, especially for effective for 2024.

1202
01:34:31,530 --> 01:34:34,530
If you did want to do that, I recommend that you get started.

1203
01:34:34,530 --> 01:34:45,790
probably in 2023 and do the work in 2023 in 2024, do you go into back January 1st,

1204
01:34:46,150 --> 01:34:46,510
2025,

1205
01:34:48,710 --> 01:34:52,750
so that would be my recommendation to you there.

1206
01:34:53,670 --> 01:34:55,350
But I'll pick that down to any questions for you.

1207
01:34:55,630 --> 01:34:55,990
Questions?

1208
01:34:56,210 --> 01:34:56,750
Yes, sir.

1209
01:34:57,310 --> 01:34:59,450
Now with the inflation like it is right now.

1210
01:35:00,140 --> 01:35:08,560
I mean, even if you didn't start to say next January or next June, I mean, I probably don't

1211
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:14,680
be a recession by the end of the way, but in crisis of following, maybe, level off, so on.

1212
01:35:15,180 --> 01:35:22,160
Right now, I would say that, in my opinion, probably, probably, probably, stabilizing now.

1213
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:27,520
I don't think you're looking at the big increases you've gotten into past. I think the

1214
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:35,940
It's hoping pretty good. I really have not done a market study for a green county. We do have access to him out of us if you want us to do a report for you

1215
01:35:35,940 --> 01:35:37,760
We can do that. I saw a

1216
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,500
I saw Sunday I was watching news and they said

1217
01:35:43,180 --> 01:35:51,920
50 points and then Monday this the Fed was saying three quarters to a 1% increase within the next week

1218
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,640
So we're gonna find out tomorrow

1219
01:35:58,090 --> 01:36:04,530
But any questions please let me know, you used to do a reassuction once or two years.

1220
01:36:05,150 --> 01:36:11,350
We've been doing just reviewing sales and just in the process and the system to reflect

1221
01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:12,250
market value.

1222
01:36:12,510 --> 01:36:18,410
We look at it by the different areas of the county with subdivisions there and we make adjustments

1223
01:36:18,410 --> 01:36:19,230
for that.

1224
01:36:19,570 --> 01:36:21,170
But that's what we've done in the past.

1225
01:36:21,610 --> 01:36:28,090
It is getting time that you do, I think, to do a visual review when you photos would be good.

1226
01:36:28,110 --> 01:36:35,430
We just don't have, it's just so much work up right now, we just don't have personnel that we can put to that right now.

1227
01:36:36,230 --> 01:36:39,190
I would say if you put it off an RP, you won't get any response.

1228
01:36:40,350 --> 01:36:42,430
So you're going to have people come up with you right now.

1229
01:36:42,730 --> 01:36:43,830
That's what I would recommend.

1230
01:36:43,830 --> 01:36:45,330
And this time,

1231
01:36:47,470 --> 01:36:50,950
and you kind of need to do one to keep your ratio up, so you can keep the

1232
01:36:51,630 --> 01:36:52,070
funding.

1233
01:36:52,910 --> 01:36:57,430
We think drops who are certain level of stress, affecting the amount of money you get from

1234
01:36:57,430 --> 01:36:59,270
utilities, and you get to that point.

1235
01:36:59,710 --> 01:37:05,730
It's just 2020 where you're just, it's never been a year like it as far as I know as far

1236
01:37:05,730 --> 01:37:06,850
as the increase in real estate.

1237
01:37:07,470 --> 01:37:13,810
Now, what's going to happen to future, like I said right now, I think it's stable out

1238
01:37:13,810 --> 01:37:15,350
I don't think it's dropping.

1239
01:37:17,110 --> 01:37:18,910
I can't tell you what's going to happen next year.

1240
01:37:19,250 --> 01:37:21,450
I can tell you that the stock market's been hit pretty hard.

1241
01:37:22,750 --> 01:37:24,430
I want you to have to watch it.

1242
01:37:25,010 --> 01:37:25,770
I want you to have to watch it.

1243
01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:29,730
But how the real estate still is still good.

1244
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:36,810
I respect that they're going to keep raising interest rates probably a half a percent.

1245
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:39,310
But it's going to be like this.

1246
01:37:39,890 --> 01:37:40,490
I did.

1247
01:37:40,490 --> 01:37:51,030
So you mentioned looking at this through 2023 and forward to go into effect 2025. Are you talking about the full assessment?

1248
01:37:51,630 --> 01:37:53,690
Yes. Start working on that. Yes.

1249
01:37:54,090 --> 01:37:54,230
Okay.

1250
01:37:54,350 --> 01:37:56,350
In 2020-23 you got it?

1251
01:37:56,350 --> 01:37:58,710
How do you know if you started in 2023?

1252
01:37:59,350 --> 01:38:03,270
How do you know by the time you get to 2025 you have the right number is still?

1253
01:38:03,450 --> 01:38:06,710
Well we're going to use sales in 2024.

1254
01:38:07,950 --> 01:38:13,130
and it would go in fact for 2025 just like right now we did it. We're going to use sales

1255
01:38:13,130 --> 01:38:21,110
for 2022 and we've made an extension in order to get that done to be going in fact

1256
01:38:21,110 --> 01:38:23,150
by January 1st, 2023.

1257
01:38:23,930 --> 01:38:24,890
I'm sure.

1258
01:38:25,290 --> 01:38:25,870
I'm sure.

1259
01:38:26,770 --> 01:38:26,850
I'm sure.

1260
01:38:26,850 --> 01:38:27,070
I'm sure.

1261
01:38:27,070 --> 01:38:27,350
I'm sure.

1262
01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:27,450
I'm sure.

1263
01:38:27,770 --> 01:38:27,890
Yeah.

1264
01:38:28,370 --> 01:38:29,630
If I could, sir.

1265
01:38:30,770 --> 01:38:38,190
We've heard many comments about how frequently we should do a table top assessment.

1266
01:38:38,690 --> 01:38:38,890
Yes.

1267
01:38:39,450 --> 01:38:42,890
And it's range from two years to ten years.

1268
01:38:43,710 --> 01:38:45,230
Some people have talked to me.

1269
01:38:45,670 --> 01:38:51,910
What's your assessment of how frequently a local government should do at least the table top assessment?

1270
01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:59,150
I would think probably you need to do one.

1271
01:39:00,070 --> 01:39:03,830
I think it's almost been ten years since we did the last one here.

1272
01:39:04,530 --> 01:39:06,910
I'd say that's probably the longest you should see.

1273
01:39:07,170 --> 01:39:08,170
You should go.

1274
01:39:09,090 --> 01:39:11,550
It's just nice to get out, property values.

1275
01:39:13,230 --> 01:39:15,090
You just want to check and make sure everything's assessed.

1276
01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:18,010
You want to look at the condition of the homes.

1277
01:39:19,170 --> 01:39:21,550
Most homes stay in average condition.

1278
01:39:21,550 --> 01:39:25,690
But you've got some homes that go down in value too.

1279
01:39:26,610 --> 01:39:28,750
They have been maintained very well.

1280
01:39:29,230 --> 01:39:33,510
When you get to a place that you have to do a lot of maintenance on the house,

1281
01:39:33,650 --> 01:39:35,550
it's going to affect the sale price of that house.

1282
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:38,690
It's been sitting vacant for two or three years.

1283
01:39:39,790 --> 01:39:41,430
It's going to affect the value quite a bit.

1284
01:39:42,030 --> 01:39:48,490
Yes, one of my concerns is that if you do it on a regular basis,

1285
01:39:48,710 --> 01:39:50,050
let's say two to four years,

1286
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:59,970
It may help some people that may hinder other people depending on what they want to do, some people that want to sell, might want to see an assistant.

1287
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,840
More frequently and be able to sell it. Others may not. Why? Because they don't have the funds to repair it or whatever.

1288
01:40:08,900 --> 01:40:14,400
So I guess that's one of my biggest concerns as to how frequently should we really do this.

1289
01:40:14,460 --> 01:40:24,300
I really think you should do it every two years. You want to not get large increase. People don't like large increases at one time.

1290
01:40:24,300 --> 01:40:30,900
And right now, if you do it, you know, it's 2021 was just a bumper year.

1291
01:40:32,380 --> 01:40:38,640
You're still going to get probably a very large increase for 2,000, for you reassessment

1292
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:43,760
goes to the fact, January 1st, 2023, but you want to stay away from that large increase.

1293
01:40:44,340 --> 01:40:49,420
We just did rock and ham county homes there when I put about 45 percent.

1294
01:40:50,540 --> 01:40:51,560
That's very well.

1295
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,940
And they were, and what was the last one that was there?

1296
01:40:53,940 --> 01:40:55,660
they're doing it four-year cycle.

1297
01:40:55,780 --> 01:40:56,780
They're on a four-year cycle.

1298
01:40:58,160 --> 01:40:58,400
Wow.

1299
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,340
Well, that's my concern.

1300
01:41:02,900 --> 01:41:02,920
Yes.

1301
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:10,320
It's the longer you go, it may appear to be okay, but when you get to that point, whether

1302
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:17,520
it be four years or six years, it can be quite a hit for a community, for a resident that

1303
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:18,340
owes their home.

1304
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:19,280
Okay.

1305
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:24,560
I want to point out, too, based on conversation, which is different, and to be out there,

1306
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:28,360
I think we should just personal private text as part of the budgetary process after

1307
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:29,120
reassessment.

1308
01:41:29,260 --> 01:41:32,440
We're given the current tax rate and the equalization tax rate.

1309
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:37,540
So we know that if this is the current tax rate, if we lower it this amount, the

1310
01:41:37,540 --> 01:41:41,220
residents are paying you saying, say, or if you raise it this amount, the residents

1311
01:41:41,220 --> 01:41:43,960
paying you saying, if it's the value that's gone up or gone down,

1312
01:41:44,620 --> 01:41:50,240
And I go to example, in my country, in 2007, if we get a system of 2007, if you weighed

1313
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:55,420
five to six years, rest of the panel, a lot more in taxes, year 2008, 9, 10, and 11,

1314
01:41:55,700 --> 01:41:58,180
year 2009, the panel at the last.

1315
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:06,400
A lot of people use their home value for equity loans to sell their property, sell people

1316
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:10,620
to do reverse mortgages on their property because that's how they're funding their retirement.

1317
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:13,620
But we have the option to do that.

1318
01:42:13,620 --> 01:42:15,600
And I think if the person probably, too, I think every year,

1319
01:42:15,700 --> 01:42:17,460
a person probably should endure it.

1320
01:42:17,580 --> 01:42:18,920
This is your personal private tax.

1321
01:42:19,580 --> 01:42:20,640
Equalization is this.

1322
01:42:21,060 --> 01:42:22,140
I mean, raise your lower accord.

1323
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:25,260
If we hadn't had that in place, the person probably wouldn't be

1324
01:42:25,260 --> 01:42:26,720
where we are today with the kind of situation.

1325
01:42:26,860 --> 01:42:30,240
I support the equalization issue of the personal private tax.

1326
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,420
I don't know what we need to do to make put that in place,

1327
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,080
but I just think we need to talk to the commissioner.

1328
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,480
the revenue, probably when the election takes place,

1329
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,280
I have a workshop here at the process.

1330
01:42:40,540 --> 01:42:43,020
We want to see what the values are earlier on,

1331
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:44,440
when that's part of the budgetary process,

1332
01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:46,900
have them give us the information or yearly basis.

1333
01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:49,400
And then we won't, in case we go through another pandemic,

1334
01:42:49,420 --> 01:42:50,500
that we're totally overwhelmed,

1335
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:52,740
we'll have to deal with this issue again.

1336
01:42:53,180 --> 01:42:53,380
Great.

1337
01:42:53,380 --> 01:42:53,940
Most peers.

1338
01:42:54,440 --> 01:42:57,020
Yes, so I don't you agree with rock and ham campaign

1339
01:42:57,020 --> 01:42:58,740
with the growth for the students

1340
01:42:58,740 --> 01:43:01,420
like that, even on the graduates,

1341
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,240
just as many as the UVA, and they've grown like crazy.

1342
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:11,680
I don't know was nothing of that, you know, you know, James Madison University at the end of it.

1343
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:12,040
Yeah.

1344
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,800
I will say, people took that increase pretty good over there.

1345
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:20,200
We had to still, the larger increase you have, the more fields you have.

1346
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:27,040
But we held their hearings ourselves and the people in the county, they were excellent

1347
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:34,080
to work with and, you know, we did not get as many fields as I felt we were going to get.

1348
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,520
we did have a lot there.

1349
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:39,160
It follows two years anyway, correct?

1350
01:43:39,620 --> 01:43:43,560
Well, there were four years and you've been on a two-year cycle.

1351
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:45,060
And I think that's good.

1352
01:43:45,700 --> 01:43:48,880
Any time you keep people getting large increases at one time,

1353
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:49,400
it's good.

1354
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:52,060
Thank you.

1355
01:43:53,630 --> 01:43:55,150
For the question of discussion.

1356
01:43:56,150 --> 01:43:56,910
Thank you very much.

1357
01:43:56,930 --> 01:43:57,470
Thank you.

1358
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:58,710
You have a nice evening.

1359
01:43:59,490 --> 01:43:59,950
Thank you, Chair.

1360
01:44:01,550 --> 01:44:03,890
So this, this career of submission, first of all,

1361
01:44:03,890 --> 01:44:06,690
We've went through an exercise starting

1362
01:44:06,690 --> 01:44:10,910
about February investigating towards doing a full blown

1363
01:44:10,910 --> 01:44:15,750
reassessment or a door door, whatever we'll call it,

1364
01:44:15,850 --> 01:44:18,610
a visual review, a reassessment for the county.

1365
01:44:18,850 --> 01:44:24,110
And found first of all, that from contacting several folks,

1366
01:44:24,250 --> 01:44:27,070
some of whom used to do such work and no longer do.

1367
01:44:27,150 --> 01:44:28,910
Others are just overwhelmed.

1368
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:33,110
Piersons who have done a lot of work for us over years

1369
01:44:33,110 --> 01:44:39,830
appreciate the relationship. Here's to be our best for a vendor going forward, that's

1370
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:46,410
served. The professional's going forward to do the full visual reassessment. That does need

1371
01:44:46,410 --> 01:44:55,690
to be put off to the 2025 reassessment because of the amount of work involved in the meantime to

1372
01:44:55,690 --> 01:44:59,970
on the two-year cycle, which is...

1373
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:12,020
I think that from what I've read of it, and I sent the board an article over the weekend from my recent, the most recent study I could find was from the Federal Reserve Bank in Philadelphia, and did another study in the last few years.

1374
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:25,100
And I said, first of all, everybody agrees that real estate tax has problems in issues, and Richmond has tried to adapt to other taxes, but they're not making much progress with that.

1375
01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:30,480
one thing that they find and that federal reserve's that he finds is that reassessing more

1376
01:45:30,480 --> 01:45:37,640
frequently leads to the fairest possible results with the real estate tax. So we're trying

1377
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:55,080
to keep on the two-year cycle, which would mean needing to get Mr. Pearson started on the

1378
01:45:55,080 --> 01:46:02,860
seen that and if it's acceptable to the board, we would like to get him started on that work.

1379
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:08,820
We could put it on the board's consent agenda for your next meeting or whatever you see fit.

1380
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:14,780
And if there were questions about that particular engagement for current work,

1381
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:21,540
it needs to be current in order to keep us on the two-year cycle that is the board's existing

1382
01:46:21,540 --> 01:46:27,200
it off in cycle that needs to be engaged presently. So if we have questions from Mr.

1383
01:46:27,260 --> 01:46:31,900
Pearson about that, we would like to focus on that particular issue.

1384
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:36,160
If you started in 2023, when would it take effect, I guess?

1385
01:46:36,580 --> 01:46:41,920
January 1st, 2025. So we started in 2023 and it took effect in 2025.

1386
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:48,220
And the last time we did it was in 2020 and it took effect in 2021, right?

1387
01:46:48,500 --> 01:46:48,760
Yes, sir.

1388
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:55,560
So that would be a four-year, well that's a two different, to stay on the two-year cycle, we need a table top assessment,

1389
01:46:55,900 --> 01:47:04,340
reassessment done, just based on sales data. Yes, man, and then starting early next year,

1390
01:47:04,660 --> 01:47:10,300
begin the next cycle of full visual inspection reassessment. Well that was my question,

1391
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:17,100
is he did the table top? He did the table top this year, when would those figures take effect?

1392
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:21,760
January 1st, 2023. 23. Okay. Okay.

1393
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,180
And you stay on your cycle.

1394
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:24,720
You're done. Okay.

1395
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,860
But just to discuss it, I'm here to provide a service.

1396
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:33,700
And anyway, I can assist you. Please let me know.

1397
01:47:34,220 --> 01:47:36,640
I know it's nothing like a problem.

1398
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,800
He used to go and have to do assessments on housing.

1399
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:40,940
Yes, with the bank.

1400
01:47:42,300 --> 01:47:44,540
And I know, you know, you're going to somehow

1401
01:47:44,540 --> 01:47:46,600
might look beautiful outside.

1402
01:47:49,540 --> 01:47:52,880
When everybody do assessments, we do not make interior inspections.

1403
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:57,840
That's why when they come into the hearings, I ask them a lot of questions about the interior of the home.

1404
01:47:58,920 --> 01:47:59,900
And it does make a difference.

1405
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:07,720
But my biggest concern is if we don't do the table top now, come 2025.

1406
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:12,580
I don't want to see citizens see a 45% increase.

1407
01:48:13,380 --> 01:48:15,180
I just don't know what the market's going to do.

1408
01:48:15,180 --> 01:48:19,560
What's that? I just don't know. No, no, I understand that. I would ask you to predict it.

1409
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:24,580
But it concerns we go in four years as to what might happen. Yes, all right.

1410
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:30,140
What is, but what if we did? What if we just shifted everything up one year?

1411
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:38,080
Because we're in a weird year. We've already gotten messed up with personal property tax.

1412
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:52,620
If this goes through, and in 2023, people's real estate tax is up 45, 55, 65 percent, because it's in 2020, too.

1413
01:48:54,980 --> 01:48:56,140
That's actually the goal.

1414
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,360
We can control that.

1415
01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:00,600
See, the difference is with personal architects.

1416
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:02,580
You can style you want to.

1417
01:49:02,860 --> 01:49:07,300
But the difference with personal architects is that we never had the equalization rate before.

1418
01:49:07,300 --> 01:49:14,160
as a board, we get the current tax rate for the budget turn process during the

1419
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,100
and during the assessment year. And if it's a two cents, and let's say that the

1420
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:23,340
values of a home that's going up 40 percent, they'll show us the current tax rate

1421
01:49:23,340 --> 01:49:27,280
and then the Equalization rate is given to us as part of the tax process, which means

1422
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:32,740
we decrease that by a certain amount. So the homeowner pays the same amount. So that's

1423
01:49:32,740 --> 01:49:40,880
But what you're saying is that all five of us, or majority of us, have to go to go with that equalization rate.

1424
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:42,260
Okay.

1425
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:50,340
So we get to a point and, you know, all of a sudden, we need some money and for whatever reason.

1426
01:49:50,820 --> 01:49:54,020
You know, I'm sorry, but I can't, I'm a one person up here.

1427
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:56,680
I can't, I gotta do what I think is right.

1428
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,860
Well, I think the two of your cycle is right.

1429
01:49:59,860 --> 01:49:59,920
Good.

1430
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:09,900
And I'll talk to other people who are complaining of a personal property, who are complaining of business taxes, and we discuss real estate tax.

1431
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:14,520
And the comments I have heard is, don't mess with the two-year cycle in real estate for that reason.

1432
01:50:15,540 --> 01:50:17,140
Business people, though.

1433
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:18,680
We have private individuals.

1434
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:21,800
They're talking about their business property.

1435
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:26,200
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1436
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:36,940
Then we have people are afraid that if we had an equalization process with personal property, we would have the information to make the correct decision.

1437
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,900
We did not, and that's why I suggest we do the same thing for personal property.

1438
01:50:40,900 --> 01:50:41,480
I agree.

1439
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:48,660
So I mean, because it works with real estate, there's one year the board had lowered the tax rate I think by 12 cents.

1440
01:50:49,140 --> 01:50:53,880
And we're still, we might be at the rate it was for the Lord it, and that's been years ago.

1441
01:50:54,260 --> 01:50:55,180
I don't know.

1442
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:58,860
The Board can make that decision at that time frame,

1443
01:50:58,860 --> 01:51:01,040
whether to keep it the same and the Lord.

1444
01:51:03,220 --> 01:51:06,840
Most of the time, when people have, we haven't had the outright.

1445
01:51:07,780 --> 01:51:10,760
Since I've been on the board to start in the real estate tax,

1446
01:51:11,700 --> 01:51:18,180
the individuals usually have the...

1447
01:51:18,180 --> 01:51:22,100
or too low, nasty appeals process, but to Pierce was referring to.

1448
01:51:22,340 --> 01:51:25,780
So they also have another avenue for approach, you know, to do a heal.

1449
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:31,940
The process, first of property, we had, there was very little in place because of such an unusual event.

1450
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:37,080
But the real estate values, this has been in place because it's an ongoing event.

1451
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:38,900
It goes up and it goes down.

1452
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:46,600
And you have to be careful because, like 2007, it could have hurt them in 2009, it could have helped them.

1453
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:51,020
that she doesn't need that bubble, you know, people around the values, but that's just my opinion.

1454
01:51:51,960 --> 01:52:01,600
Only the only question I have about the assessments this year and last year, or whatever, is we have these Airbnb's,

1455
01:52:02,500 --> 01:52:10,600
and these people who go out, they're bid 20, 50,000 more dollars, above what it's,

1456
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:23,100
I mean, with the prices on it, well, the bank would fine answer them up because they're going to make that money back within a year and still own this property.

1457
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:28,900
That's what balls mean about a lot of homes that are being bought up just for the Airbnb's.

1458
01:52:31,380 --> 01:52:34,140
I definitely think we need to stay on that two-year plan.

1459
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:41,500
It's spurred frightening to go past the two years to me and it's mischievous, we can control that rate.

1460
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:46,200
And that's not feelings on this.

1461
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:51,620
Control rate plus, you have your equalization of logic and go before it.

1462
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:53,380
That's where you're going to feel to bring in.

1463
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:54,920
Yeah, I don't know about that.

1464
01:52:55,060 --> 01:53:01,600
But Mr. Susan, is what I'm saying making sense to you like does my concern make sense to you?

1465
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:06,060
Whether or not we have this process, like do you understand where I'm going to say it?

1466
01:53:06,060 --> 01:53:08,980
What you're saying is you're afraid the market is going to drop.

1467
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:17,340
No, I'm afraid that everything's going to get assessed extremely high and bills are going to go skyrocket.

1468
01:53:17,980 --> 01:53:23,720
You control what the bills are, what the overall bills are, what the tax rate is going to be.

1469
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:25,260
I do the assessments.

1470
01:53:26,380 --> 01:53:27,220
That's what I do.

1471
01:53:27,220 --> 01:53:31,420
But I'm just meaning the values of the homes.

1472
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:36,140
The values of the homes, in my opinion, right now, we're going to go up.

1473
01:53:37,940 --> 01:53:41,300
Your assessed values are going to go up.

1474
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,240
You have your assessed value, you've got your tax rate.

1475
01:53:47,940 --> 01:53:51,260
And you're going to have to, I would think you're probably lower your tax rate.

1476
01:53:51,260 --> 01:54:01,360
But that takes, I had a separate instance, majority of this for, too, a green for that, that's for it.

1477
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:11,260
But to add that the notification is the equalization process in a reassessment year,

1478
01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:17,400
and Ms. Kim, jump right in when I get some of this wrong, because I don't remember it all,

1479
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:25,680
But the point is, when the reassessment goes up, and would then generate more than

1480
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:34,500
what is 101% more than so much increase in taxes, it is a requirement of state law that

1481
01:54:34,500 --> 01:54:36,640
the equalized rate be public.

1482
01:54:37,540 --> 01:54:42,560
So, in other words, there is a mandatory and reassessment years for real estate.

1483
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,340
This doesn't exist for personal property.

1484
01:54:44,340 --> 01:54:48,040
But for real as day, it's required by statute

1485
01:54:48,750 --> 01:54:52,140
that we determine what the equalized rate would be,

1486
01:54:52,220 --> 01:54:54,540
what would the tax rate, so the assessment,

1487
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:59,960
the value goes up, the loss as we must determine what will it.

1488
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:11,560
Tax rate B, that would yield effectively the same revenue to the county. And we must advertise that rate as the equalized rate.

1489
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:26,360
And then, right, that goes to public hearing for the tax rate. And the board, just like any other year, the board can adopt whatever tax rate, the board finds necessary inappropriate for the community.

1490
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:32,560
But the advertisements, so the public disclosure is there, only in the reassessment

1491
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:36,580
year of what the equalized rate should be.

1492
01:55:37,620 --> 01:55:43,380
And that's where the frequent more frequent reassessments, I think, tend to help

1493
01:55:43,380 --> 01:55:50,180
because then as the market value changes up or down, the value that is reported in the

1494
01:55:50,180 --> 01:55:56,700
system is accurate, and where that is, is changed enough to change the local revenue.

1495
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:03,120
There's a mandatory disclosure of what the equalized rate would be, so that everyone

1496
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:09,680
knows how the evaluation and the tax rate work together.

1497
01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:18,560
I worry about the fact that I noticed a budget has gone up so many millions of dollars in the

1498
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:25,320
last three years. I'm just kidding. We're spending too much money. I mean, be honest. And I wouldn't

1499
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:31,260
want it to be up here in the next thing. You know, well, we need all this. I know we need money,

1500
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:36,420
but. Well, that's it. And it's easy to when I was talking about earlier where I'm very concerned

1501
01:56:36,420 --> 01:56:43,760
that next year a lot of the money that's in our current budget is going to not be there based

1502
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:50,520
just the weird circumstances that have happened and that we've heard about from other

1503
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:57,400
constitutional officers etc. So, you know, it's concerning to me. I don't want to

1504
01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:02,180
push it out, you know, I understand why you don't want to push it out. Believe me, I do get

1505
01:57:02,180 --> 01:57:09,920
and I get the process, but with everything else going on, it's concerning to me. And I don't know

1506
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:17,740
we're going to be next year. I'll tell you what, I'm ready for like February 20, 23 right now.

1507
01:57:17,980 --> 01:57:20,720
I want to see what that budget is going to look like.

1508
01:57:23,190 --> 01:57:24,150
Any further discussion?

1509
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:27,040
How much?

1510
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:36,060
Should we get opinions from the public? I mean, we don't, we don't make a decision tonight.

1511
01:57:36,660 --> 01:57:39,740
I'm not trying to, I'm not slight when I was two years ago.

1512
01:57:40,300 --> 01:57:43,360
He, I don't think he was asking for decisions, right, I know that.

1513
01:57:43,380 --> 01:57:45,460
Mr. Taylor, we're sending you a part of the Senate agenda.

1514
01:57:45,700 --> 01:57:45,880
Right.

1515
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:47,740
He needs us on a tier of cycle.

1516
01:57:48,220 --> 01:57:49,740
So it could be a part of the Senate agenda.

1517
01:57:49,900 --> 01:57:53,800
We could decide at the networking, whether if you've received a tier of cycle or not.

1518
01:57:55,100 --> 01:57:59,080
And then at that point, if we go to the tier of cycle and if we do the resescent,

1519
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,860
and then the transport board is part of a budget or a process,

1520
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:03,700
but then it's March or April.

1521
01:58:04,060 --> 01:58:07,600
We'll get, if we go through the resescent, he'll be equalization rate,

1522
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:08,780
and then if you have a kind of hearing,

1523
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:10,140
what would be a visualization rate

1524
01:58:10,140 --> 01:58:11,420
because we have to advertise that

1525
01:58:11,420 --> 01:58:14,080
and then if this is common to whether or not

1526
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:16,280
about the increase in the real estate tax.

1527
01:58:17,260 --> 01:58:17,880
Court of degrees.

1528
01:58:18,660 --> 01:58:19,800
When you do the tabletop,

1529
01:58:19,860 --> 01:58:21,660
you just take out of certain force,

1530
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,620
you don't actually go out, you just,

1531
01:58:24,900 --> 01:58:26,540
we usually go out and look at the sales.

1532
01:58:26,620 --> 01:58:27,080
Say it.

1533
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:30,640
So we look at, we look at subdivisions,

1534
01:58:30,860 --> 01:58:33,740
we look at it by each district in the county.

1535
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,960
Sometimes we look at it by quality construction,

1536
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:42,820
and working together to see if their average quality bill at homes compared to the good quality

1537
01:58:42,820 --> 01:58:43,920
bill at homes.

1538
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:45,540
We can earn ratios on that.

1539
01:58:46,060 --> 01:58:48,880
We try to reflect the market value as close as we can.

1540
01:58:49,780 --> 01:58:52,320
Well, the market value is now in our county.

1541
01:58:52,580 --> 01:58:53,980
I don't know who they going crazy.

1542
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:55,720
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1543
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:56,680
I'm sorry.

1544
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:56,760
I'm sorry.

1545
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:56,940
I'm sorry.

1546
01:58:56,940 --> 01:58:57,020
I'm sorry.

1547
01:58:57,020 --> 01:58:57,080
I'm sorry.

1548
01:58:58,480 --> 01:58:59,600
I'm sorry.

1549
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:08,200
I will use no sales from Abermore County or Charlottesville on the year today.

1550
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:10,800
I think it was clear some things.

1551
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:12,220
Just better pleasure.

1552
01:59:12,380 --> 01:59:13,240
Thank you very much.

1553
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:17,100
So to stay one to two years like we would need it this evening.

1554
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:20,740
We'll meet it.

1555
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,960
That's one of the table top.

1556
01:59:23,540 --> 01:59:24,140
Reassessment.

1557
01:59:24,140 --> 01:59:29,840
And for Jay, I would like to put this to everyone.

1558
01:59:30,220 --> 01:59:30,400
Sorry.

1559
01:59:31,140 --> 01:59:33,940
Just to note, if I believe the county code

1560
01:59:33,940 --> 01:59:35,700
would require it to be two years.

1561
01:59:36,140 --> 01:59:38,400
So if you decide to change it,

1562
01:59:38,420 --> 01:59:41,660
you'll have to have a trouble of hearing to be able to change the law.

1563
01:59:42,140 --> 01:59:44,600
And if you wait till the next meeting,

1564
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:47,020
the earliest, you'd be able to have a problem with hearing,

1565
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:51,640
and every time it would be the end of July.

1566
01:59:52,820 --> 01:59:53,960
The second meeting is the law.

1567
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:55,380
Which actually does the second meeting

1568
01:59:55,380 --> 01:59:58,480
I think it's going to be obvious before you change the law.

1569
01:59:58,820 --> 01:59:59,800
I think it's decided.

1570
02:00:05,380 --> 02:00:24,580
So the question is, basically, having like a Senate agenda, whenever we're at a point, we can vote on it. And then, if we decide not to go through, then we have to do the change in how the law, which would be a public hearing, it would be like in the volumes. So to get back to your point, I would agree to place on a Senate agenda.

1571
02:00:28,190 --> 02:00:30,030
No, no, fair. Thank you.

1572
02:00:34,010 --> 02:00:35,590
Oh, you need a motion.

1573
02:00:35,750 --> 02:00:36,790
Well, that's unique.

1574
02:00:37,150 --> 02:00:38,110
But this is not good.

1575
02:00:38,430 --> 02:00:39,810
I think we're going to suggest it.

1576
02:00:39,910 --> 02:00:40,830
It's like this is a gesture of you.

1577
02:00:41,030 --> 02:00:42,570
Put it on the edge of the edge of the edge.

1578
02:00:42,850 --> 02:00:43,090
Yeah.

1579
02:00:43,110 --> 02:00:43,950
Put it on the next two.

1580
02:00:44,330 --> 02:00:44,990
Next one.

1581
02:00:45,530 --> 02:00:45,930
Next one.

1582
02:00:46,210 --> 02:00:46,230
Yeah.

1583
02:00:47,470 --> 02:00:48,170
And at that point.

1584
02:00:48,330 --> 02:00:48,710
It was clear.

1585
02:00:48,890 --> 02:00:49,910
And you might know no problem.

1586
02:00:51,190 --> 02:00:51,570
Carol.

1587
02:00:54,970 --> 02:00:55,370
Oh.

1588
02:00:57,410 --> 02:00:57,470
Oh.

1589
02:00:57,470 --> 02:00:58,030
I forgot something.

1590
02:00:59,630 --> 02:01:00,370
I'm glad to welcome you.

1591
02:01:08,510 --> 02:01:26,890
I don't think so. He's with him 30 years. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Well, I should know it. Yeah. Manage it. Oh, it's okay. Okay, but he's been retired. Oh, I guess 15 years. Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.

1592
02:01:26,890 --> 02:01:27,810
I appreciate your time.

1593
02:01:28,730 --> 02:01:29,370
Thank you.

1594
02:01:29,390 --> 02:01:30,010
Thank you sir.

1595
02:01:30,590 --> 02:01:31,650
It's always good.

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02:01:31,970 --> 02:01:32,990
Thank you.

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The next presentation will be the Finance Quarterly Report.

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02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:39,460
Ms. Nars, please go forward.

1599
02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:49,980
I'm trying to do this.

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02:01:53,260 --> 02:01:55,820
Ms. Nars, I don't mean to follow you.

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02:01:56,860 --> 02:01:59,100
But you said it was a quarterly report,

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02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:00,900
but it's a six month report.

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02:02:01,100 --> 02:02:02,220
A ban, no.

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02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:03,220
It's...

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02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:04,700
It's...

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02:02:04,700 --> 02:02:04,900
It's...

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02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:06,380
It's...

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02:02:06,380 --> 02:02:08,440
Okay, second fall. We're looking at that.

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02:02:18,390 --> 02:02:23,090
Okay, I did a bit of the first one. Yes, thank you.

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02:02:25,090 --> 02:02:31,850
Good evening. Tonight, I'm presenting the second quarter of on each report, which in the December 31 of 2021.

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02:02:32,470 --> 02:02:38,430
This report will compare the year to date revenues and expenditures for fiscal year 2022 to the current budget.

1612
02:02:40,350 --> 02:02:47,750
The contingency line item has the balance of 248,464 dollars and 35 cents.

1613
02:02:50,530 --> 02:02:54,470
The supplemental appropriations that have been approved by the board are in the amount of

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02:02:54,470 --> 02:02:59,930
1 million, 376,913 dollars and 44 cents.

1615
02:03:00,310 --> 02:03:04,850
This includes grants, donations, and carry over programs for fiscal year 2022.

1616
02:03:07,370 --> 02:03:12,950
The cash balance for the Treasury's report to the board as of December 31, 2021 is

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02:03:12,950 --> 02:03:17,290
$18,419,169.

1618
02:03:18,510 --> 02:03:24,810
The cash balances are represented by the gray line, the actual year in fund balances represented

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02:03:24,810 --> 02:03:29,950
by the orange line, and the fund balance minimum is represented by the blue line.

1620
02:03:32,460 --> 02:03:36,380
The revenue details summary report is in your board packet and provides detailed for

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02:03:36,380 --> 02:03:37,480
all revenue categories.

1622
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:41,600
The revenue charts are as follows.

1623
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:47,480
The real property tax chart compares the current revenues and budget to the previous fiscal year.

1624
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:52,760
Tax collections are twice a year and December of 2021 and in June of 2022.

1625
02:03:53,720 --> 02:04:02,760
Real property tax set an increase of 419,853 dollars and 71 cents from 2021 to 2022.

1626
02:04:05,310 --> 02:04:09,470
Personal property compares current revenues and budget to the previous fiscal year.

1627
02:04:09,470 --> 02:04:19,090
Personal property tax had an increase of $376,541 in 65 cents from 2021 to 2022.

1628
02:04:21,150 --> 02:04:28,250
This next chart shows the remaining scheduled selected local tax revenue categories compared to the previous fiscal year.

1629
02:04:28,730 --> 02:04:39,010
This includes local sales and use tax, hotel and motel room taxes, restaurant and food taxes, and permits and other licenses.

1630
02:04:39,010 --> 02:04:46,950
local sales and use tax had an increase of 103,000, 47 dollars and four cents, hotel and

1631
02:04:46,950 --> 02:04:55,470
motel room tax had an increase of 6,543 dollars and 78 cents, restaurant food tax had an increase

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02:04:55,470 --> 02:04:59,810
of $133,562 in 67.

1633
02:05:00,540 --> 02:05:08,780
And permits another license that has had an increase of $60,000, $447.78 every last fiscal year.

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02:05:12,060 --> 02:05:13,580
And that's the data for those charts.

1635
02:05:15,080 --> 02:05:29,560
This chart compares the revenue, the previous fiscal year to the current risk fiscal year. This chart shows that all categories in the blue, which is the previous fiscal year, compared to the red, which is the current fiscal year, had an increase over the previous fiscal year.

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02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:34,450
and that's the data for that chart.

1637
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:43,080
This chart compares the local tax revenue categories for five fiscal years.

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02:05:43,300 --> 02:05:48,220
fiscal year 18, 19, 20, 21, and 22.

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02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:54,520
This chart displays a decrease in personal property for tax year 21 and a decrease in permits

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02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:56,220
and other licenses for F-21.

1641
02:05:57,280 --> 02:06:02,860
Real property taxes, local sales and use, hotel motel, and restaurant food taxes all

1642
02:06:02,860 --> 02:06:04,640
had increases in each fiscal year.

1643
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:11,860
In your packet is expenditure detail summary that provides detail for all expenditure categories.

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02:06:13,660 --> 02:06:17,820
This chart shows the quarterly year-to-date expenditures for all funds.

1645
02:06:18,420 --> 02:06:21,820
It compares each fund to the total year-to-date expenditures.

1646
02:06:22,460 --> 02:06:31,640
The total spent for all funds through December 30th, 2021 is $39,792,454.

1647
02:06:31,640 --> 02:06:34,780
and 15 cents, and the categories or as follows.

1648
02:06:35,380 --> 02:06:38,180
The general fund is 47%.

1649
02:06:38,180 --> 02:06:40,920
Social services is 2%.

1650
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:43,160
CSA is 2%.

1651
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:45,380
Solid waste is 3%.

1652
02:06:45,380 --> 02:06:47,980
Schools is 45%.

1653
02:06:47,980 --> 02:06:50,320
Capital projects is 1%.

1654
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:52,820
And school construction and debt service are all zero.

1655
02:06:53,100 --> 02:06:55,820
The actual number is less than 1% for each category.

1656
02:06:58,240 --> 02:06:59,720
And this is the data for that chart.

1657
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:07,400
The next chart shows that general fund only represents year-to-date expenditures for general

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02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:08,180
fund categories.

1659
02:07:08,900 --> 02:07:10,380
The percentages are as follows.

1660
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:13,000
General fund is 8%.

1661
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:16,200
The judicial administration is 2%.

1662
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:18,820
Public safety is 31%.

1663
02:07:18,820 --> 02:07:21,560
Public works is 3%.

1664
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:24,020
Health and welfare is 1%.

1665
02:07:24,020 --> 02:07:29,560
Education, which is PVCC, it's not the schools, shows as zero because it's actually less than

1666
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:38,120
percent. Parks and Recreation is 2 percent. Community development is 3 percent and non-departmental

1667
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:42,020
is 50 percent. And which involved in non-departmental?

1668
02:07:46,220 --> 02:07:49,280
That is the transfer, that's the transfer of

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02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:49,660
jessor.

1670
02:07:51,940 --> 02:07:58,600
And that's the data for that chart. This last chart shows the year-to-date expenditures

1671
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:03,920
for general fund categories that are turning above the appropriation, the appropriation as

1672
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:11,360
December should be 50%. There's only one category that's turning above, and that is public safety.

1673
02:08:11,980 --> 02:08:18,580
That includes your quarterly payments for the jail for our commitment, and the additional truck replacement program for our fire departments.

1674
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:26,080
And the general fund expenditures are being spent at 44.57% in total, which is less than the 50% allocation.

1675
02:08:29,030 --> 02:08:34,270
And that is the data for those tarps. If there's any questions, I'm happy to answer your questions.

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02:08:34,270 --> 02:08:34,850
I have

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02:08:37,790 --> 02:08:39,670
any questions in the post?

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02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:46,400
Thank you very much.

1679
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:46,900
Thank you.

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02:08:50,300 --> 02:08:53,060
We have no items to first review.

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02:08:53,580 --> 02:08:58,160
Information items updates and reports will be board-langives on the reports.

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02:08:58,520 --> 02:08:59,120
Anyone has one?

1683
02:08:59,340 --> 02:09:00,100
All right.

1684
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:02,820
The PJPDC did meet our June 2nd.

1685
02:09:03,700 --> 02:09:04,680
Let's check if it's just here.

1686
02:09:04,900 --> 02:09:06,900
And I was proud to present that night.

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02:09:07,220 --> 02:09:08,160
I was traveling.

1688
02:09:10,140 --> 02:09:12,240
They did discuss, of course, the value,

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02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:13,700
broadband, grant contracts.

1690
02:09:13,700 --> 02:09:25,820
Let's discuss, they did like a new slate of officers that night, and I will say that they are an excellent hands from the new slate of officers that elected the ESAB would meet next Tuesday night.

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02:09:27,860 --> 02:09:28,800
Mr. Mayan?

1692
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:40,300
I've had a sole and water last Tuesday, and what are some different programs, and both the getting funded, the best of elegant and funded.

1693
02:09:40,300 --> 02:09:46,220
I mean, they're going to do dams and everything with inspections and I don't know what that upkeep.

1694
02:09:46,460 --> 02:09:51,100
But they got a lot of programs with soil and water, I just wish a lot more people in green

1695
02:09:51,100 --> 02:09:53,140
county of the life of those.

1696
02:09:55,740 --> 02:09:57,140
Is that working for the police?

1697
02:09:57,500 --> 02:09:57,940
Yes.

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02:09:57,940 --> 02:09:59,880
The St. Bruceville Town Council.

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02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,980
Last night, their budget was approved and appropriated. They're also going to be getting new banners for the light, including the new ones that are going up. They're going to be a mix of something that the linking on the name, the barn quilt, is it the art guild? The art guild? They have come up with one design. They're also going to kind of rework the current design and it's going to kind of

1700
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:44,860
Switching out as you go down through, there's also going to be a really nice sign out on not sure exactly which one, but on one of the lands that for the farmers market.

1701
02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:49,920
And it's going to have a nice farmers market when it advertise and sort of thing, green farmers market.

1702
02:10:51,420 --> 02:10:58,320
And then there was one more thing, but I'm going to bring that up under item 13 other matters.

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02:11:01,140 --> 02:11:10,940
Yes Madam Chair, I attended the school board meeting on the 8th and Dr. Whitmarsh shared the

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02:11:10,940 --> 02:11:18,460
impact 2027 strategic plan for the school district. I thought it was very well done. If you

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02:11:18,460 --> 02:11:24,660
go up to the school website you'll be able to see it but it lays out the strategic plan for the

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02:11:24,660 --> 02:11:30,400
school district for the next five years. The second item they did discuss a lot about

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02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:35,880
safety in the schools and all the things that have been done and many things that are

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02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:42,720
going to be done again safety is one of their primary concerns given what's happened in

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02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:50,000
the recent past so they did discuss that and there will be no July school board meeting held

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02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:53,340
The next meeting will be at Hardest 10th.

1711
02:11:53,800 --> 02:11:58,300
I did attend the job meeting on the same day, June 6th,

1712
02:11:58,460 --> 02:12:01,780
and I did forward the agenda and packet to the board,

1713
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:04,200
just so you had that as back road.

1714
02:12:06,660 --> 02:12:10,160
They did receive more money from the federal government,

1715
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:12,160
and that will be in the minutes that I will

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02:12:12,160 --> 02:12:13,480
for you.

1717
02:12:14,220 --> 02:12:18,880
The next meeting is on July 13th, which is the second Wednesday

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02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:24,760
the month and they now are at what they consider to be pretty close to full time operators

1719
02:12:24,760 --> 02:12:31,380
at 68 and they have a new one in Green County so we should be fully staffed at this

1720
02:12:31,380 --> 02:12:38,280
point in times Green County. So what's that screen use? Yeah that's they they had a very difficult

1721
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:48,860
time finding bus drivers as most other transportation entities have done but that's that's a good

1722
02:12:48,860 --> 02:12:56,520
that was good news and the plan of commission meeting is tomorrow at 6 o'clock June 15th

1723
02:12:56,520 --> 02:13:00,440
and I have one other item under other items and then it comes that time.

1724
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:01,920
Thank you.

1725
02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:02,060
All right.

1726
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:04,140
I have no reports to release.

1727
02:13:04,940 --> 02:13:06,420
Can we have a story about date?

1728
02:13:07,460 --> 02:13:09,080
Yes, ma'am.

1729
02:13:11,540 --> 02:13:11,860
Yes, ma'am.

1730
02:13:11,860 --> 02:13:11,900
Yes, ma'am.

1731
02:13:18,760 --> 02:13:21,220
Yes, ma'am.

1732
02:13:21,300 --> 02:13:22,040
Yes, ma'am.

1733
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:24,660
Yes, ma'am.

1734
02:13:24,940 --> 02:13:25,520
Yes.

1735
02:13:25,520 --> 02:13:38,040
This is a photo that shows a section of repointing that was done by Titan as a sample of the

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02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:43,620
work to be done repointing and sealing the historic courthouse.

1737
02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:47,740
This was done as a sample for review.

1738
02:13:47,740 --> 02:14:06,960
And we received input, ask and received input from the Green County Historical Society, received an email from Miss Jackie Pamenter, which I'll read briefly.

1739
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:12,460
The Green County Historical Society was recently asked by the County Administration for input.

1740
02:14:12,460 --> 02:14:17,660
On upcoming work, on repair the facade of the historic Green County Courthouse in Stanners

1741
02:14:17,660 --> 02:14:22,400
of Virginia this work, this is work for which we submitted a letter in support of a

1742
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:24,660
grant application in December 2021.

1743
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:31,920
Having discussed the scope of work with Mr. Dave Schram, the field operations manager for

1744
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:36,280
the Titan Restoration Company, the county's contractor on this job.

1745
02:14:36,860 --> 02:14:41,400
We see no reason not to go ahead with the work S specified with the provider that both the

1746
02:14:41,400 --> 02:14:46,920
and any sealer that is used or appropriate given the age and fragility of the bricks.

1747
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:52,240
Many beautiful historic brick structures have been severely compromised by the wrong choice of mortar.

1748
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:59,960
In his email today Mr. Schrams stated that the Titan will be using a type O mortar to point to point the...

1749
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:15,260
Direct joints with a mortar mix that is period and color matched to the original. In addition, we are in accordance with the decision that power washing of the building, which had been originally specified, will not be undertaken.

1750
02:15:16,160 --> 02:15:22,200
Also due to the soft and fragile nature of the mid-19th century bricks, we look forward to seeing the work completed.

1751
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:33,580
So, this is the type of water it is, color match to the original mortar, some of which is evident down on the bottom of this photo.

1752
02:15:34,340 --> 02:15:39,400
It is a sample of the work that will be done.

1753
02:15:39,860 --> 02:15:46,680
It is conformed to the bed specification for the job.

1754
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:54,880
and more importantly to the National Park Service standards that are applicable to restoration

1755
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:56,840
jobs of this sort.

1756
02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:04,380
And what Titan is wanting in the reason I'm showing you this picture is to have the boards

1757
02:16:04,380 --> 02:16:09,300
approval for Titan to proceed based on the sample one and everyone know what this is

1758
02:16:09,300 --> 02:16:09,780
going to like.

1759
02:16:09,780 --> 02:16:19,560
It looked like, and I would, for the record, appreciate motion as the board sees fit.

1760
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:28,600
The sample section meets the bedspack, satisfies the historical society, and conforms to the

1761
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:30,540
parks or the standards for such work.

1762
02:16:31,220 --> 02:16:37,920
I think that they have a good job, I don't know if that building is old enough to be like

1763
02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:45,140
all the buildings that I know, like Robert Allen's house, the brick of thick. I mean they put

1764
02:16:45,140 --> 02:16:51,660
so many brick at the bottom and then they come up like that. I don't know if that's if it

1765
02:16:51,660 --> 02:16:56,740
pulled out like that or not. I don't know. That looks wonderful to what it looks like. I think I want

1766
02:16:56,740 --> 02:17:03,800
to look five years old. That's being reserved. I'll make a motion that we approve the renovation

1767
02:17:03,800 --> 02:17:11,180
as submitted given the Historical Society's comments. I'll second that.

1768
02:17:11,180 --> 02:17:13,880
We have a motion by Mr. Bowen as Secretary of the Hearing.

1769
02:17:14,180 --> 02:17:16,760
I'm Mr. May. I'm excuse me. Roll call vote.

1770
02:17:17,140 --> 02:17:17,900
Mr. Hurray.

1771
02:17:18,220 --> 02:17:19,020
Aye. Mr. Lam.

1772
02:17:19,960 --> 02:17:20,040
Aye.

1773
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:21,800
Mr. Teflon. Aye. Mr. Bellman.

1774
02:17:21,820 --> 02:17:22,060
Aye.

1775
02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:23,340
And the chair votes on.

1776
02:17:23,780 --> 02:17:24,620
Thank you.

1777
02:17:25,120 --> 02:17:27,340
I also want to share the news. Thank you very much.

1778
02:17:27,340 --> 02:17:37,440
that our own Sean Leak, formerly our zoning inspector, is now, he's gone from being sort of

1779
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:37,920
fiable.

1780
02:17:38,340 --> 02:17:40,720
We were almost a bit worried about it.

1781
02:17:40,720 --> 02:17:47,800
To being certified, he passed today his test for his erosion and sediment control and stormwater

1782
02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:50,900
program administrator certification.

1783
02:17:50,900 --> 02:17:57,840
And so he is all that in a side of fries and we are a very proud of Sean and congratulate

1784
02:17:57,840 --> 02:17:58,760
him.

1785
02:17:58,980 --> 02:18:08,800
Also, I am happy to share the news that after a thoughtful selection process, we have

1786
02:18:08,800 --> 02:18:13,620
extended an offer to a buildings and grounds maintenance worker.

1787
02:18:13,620 --> 02:18:20,680
This is for the additional position-starting July 5th to work with Justin Morris in

1788
02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:28,440
facilities maintenance and I'm excited that we are adding to the role of the

1789
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:36,520
tailors on the Green County staff. This is Mike Taylor who will be joining us.

1790
02:18:36,540 --> 02:18:41,860
No relation but with the prevalence of names like Morris and Schifflet around

1791
02:18:41,860 --> 02:18:45,360
these parts, I'm proud to have another Taylor on the team.

1792
02:18:46,060 --> 02:18:49,700
Yeah, I met him for the first time today. We didn't grow up together or anything like

1793
02:18:49,700 --> 02:18:53,460
that, but I'm happy to have him join the team.

1794
02:18:54,080 --> 02:19:00,620
We are also working on hiring the other positions that the board approved in the budget.

1795
02:19:00,880 --> 02:19:04,780
These will, of course, all be starting after the beginning of the fiscal year, but we're

1796
02:19:04,780 --> 02:19:05,620
very excited.

1797
02:19:06,620 --> 02:19:12,200
I know that the number of departments, and we have had a number of concerns, I'm sorry

1798
02:19:12,200 --> 02:19:15,360
that the sheriff's still not here, but I did speak with the sheriff at some length this

1799
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:21,100
morning, and now he and some others have been concerned about some pending maintenance items

1800
02:19:21,100 --> 02:19:23,220
that they've been waiting to see performed.

1801
02:19:24,120 --> 02:19:29,420
And the frustration has been that with only one Justin Morris and with the need to complete

1802
02:19:29,420 --> 02:19:37,640
the recruitment process for the maintenance worker and for custodial workers and to award

1803
02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:43,520
some contracts or select some contractors to provide on-call trades work.

1804
02:19:43,520 --> 02:19:51,220
Justin's been in a bit of a season of doing a lot of HR and procurement work in the office,

1805
02:19:51,420 --> 02:19:57,520
rather than getting out and doing maintenance in the field. We'll get that rectified,

1806
02:19:57,660 --> 02:19:59,980
getting him staffed up appropriately and resources.

1807
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:11,220
So he can cover all of the work for the departments and the Constitutional Officers is an important first step.

1808
02:20:13,260 --> 02:20:21,260
We have another slide after Brexit. Look at that. I, yes, the Fourth of July is coming. I wanted to share this news.

1809
02:20:21,260 --> 02:20:26,920
said to be the biggest and best ever, and look forward to it, we'll be circulating this

1810
02:20:26,920 --> 02:20:36,800
on social media as well, and the thing about the board probably would have appreciated

1811
02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:43,520
if I had started with this news, but during this meeting I have gotten happy confirmation

1812
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:49,820
that both the Orange Board of Supervisors and the Madison Board of Supervisors have also adopted

1813
02:20:49,820 --> 02:20:57,380
this evening, the same concurrent resolution that you passed just after closed session.

1814
02:20:58,200 --> 02:21:04,220
So all three counties, the three member counties in the Rapid Ann Services Authority are

1815
02:21:04,220 --> 02:21:15,820
in agreement to the withdrawal and transition agreement of today's date that was been negotiated

1816
02:21:15,820 --> 02:21:24,540
between Orange Madison and Green. It will be, we expect on RSA's agenda for their meeting

1817
02:21:24,540 --> 02:21:34,660
on Thursday. I will be due at the negotiation session at the Court in Charlottesville

1818
02:21:34,660 --> 02:21:40,180
in the morning. I think with the actions by the counties, this should be hopefully a

1819
02:21:40,180 --> 02:21:44,180
of a straightforward discussion tomorrow morning.

1820
02:21:45,120 --> 02:21:48,440
Thank you very much for that action.

1821
02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:59,040
Finally, on looking ahead to your meeting on June 28th,

1822
02:21:59,040 --> 02:22:03,540
and a number of things have, for various reasons,

1823
02:22:04,400 --> 02:22:05,840
come off of that agenda.

1824
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:15,780
but I think with the anticipation that a new glamping application will be a before the board

1825
02:22:15,780 --> 02:22:23,900
that same evening, and that was also the date for discussion of the budget process.

1826
02:22:24,400 --> 02:22:33,040
The question I had was, would the board like to take up the budget process discussion in a workshop

1827
02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:41,160
up format and start the meeting a little early, say it for 30 in order to have time for,

1828
02:22:41,220 --> 02:22:48,600
make sure we have time for the budget process discussion. Without the, frankly, we don't

1829
02:22:48,600 --> 02:22:54,260
know unless Jim has any later information. The last time clamping was before the board that

1830
02:22:54,260 --> 02:23:03,560
was an all-day affair and just wondered to think ahead, as it is right now, June 28th will

1831
02:23:04,620 --> 02:23:09,340
have glamping and would like to have, of course, the budget process discussion.

1832
02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:11,380
I'm sure I could ask you a question.

1833
02:23:11,780 --> 02:23:18,560
So you're proposing 430 to 530 to discuss budget 530 to 630 would be our executive session

1834
02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:20,860
and then we go and I think that makes sense.

1835
02:23:20,900 --> 02:23:21,800
Yes, sir.

1836
02:23:21,800 --> 02:23:31,360
I think that makes sense, all right, more than a range of, and that I believe is all I have.

1837
02:23:31,700 --> 02:23:38,920
I like the photos, the last one, so I saw something up out, I don't know if any other one is on it.

1838
02:23:39,260 --> 02:23:40,140
Do you have a fold?

1839
02:23:40,700 --> 02:23:42,520
Yeah, go back to July 4.

1840
02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:48,920
You don't find that in most events in the world, I'll show you in just a second, as Jim brings

1841
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:49,800
it back up.

1842
02:23:56,650 --> 02:24:06,530
see right that free pocket and admission you will not find that in any event pocket even people

1843
02:24:06,530 --> 02:24:09,310
have houses 10 dollars $20.

1844
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:11,070
I'm sorry.

1845
02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:13,170
Thank you, Michael Taylor.

1846
02:24:13,670 --> 02:24:14,830
I was the board.

1847
02:24:15,350 --> 02:24:17,230
I'm not going to be sitting like something else.

1848
02:24:17,230 --> 02:24:19,870
Yes, and I know Mr. Pepper does as well.

1849
02:24:20,110 --> 02:24:21,270
I'll minor very quick.

1850
02:24:21,430 --> 02:24:23,470
Two quick things.

1851
02:24:23,470 --> 02:24:28,930
I've done some research in small counties in the state of Virginia, and I've come across

1852
02:24:28,930 --> 02:24:37,170
this one called Accounting of Acomac, ACC, OMACK, and I'm very impressed, I didn't print

1853
02:24:37,170 --> 02:24:44,350
the whole fiscal plan off, it's 444 pages, I downloaded it, I have looked at it, I see it

1854
02:24:44,350 --> 02:24:49,310
as a very, very wonderful template for us to take a look at.

1855
02:24:49,310 --> 02:24:55,950
There is a physical plan, a strategic plan that lay out very detailed plans.

1856
02:24:56,490 --> 02:24:59,970
The county is only about 30,000 or 28,000, so like that's not much.

1857
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:13,000
So, I would encourage my fellow board members to take a look at county of academic fiscal year 2023, proposing a fiscal plan.

1858
02:25:13,500 --> 02:25:24,380
I'm not suggesting that the county immediately move and be able to completely change how we're doing, but at least look at this kind of approach.

1859
02:25:24,380 --> 02:25:30,340
that I think is very, very accessible to citizens, as well as board members.

1860
02:25:30,880 --> 02:25:38,500
It shows revenue streams, it shows expenditure streams, it shows the strategic plan, they have

1861
02:25:38,500 --> 02:25:46,360
EMS law enforcement and other funds set aside and designated for those particular topics.

1862
02:25:46,400 --> 02:25:48,580
I was very impressed with that, what it looks like.

1863
02:25:48,580 --> 02:25:55,740
I'll just share that with you in the second one is maybe it's not on the 28th, maybe it's

1864
02:25:55,740 --> 02:25:57,060
in the first meeting in July.

1865
02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:04,180
Maybe an update from administration and Mr. Friedel, I'm a habitat request that I had put

1866
02:26:05,340 --> 02:26:07,640
in last meeting or a meeting before.

1867
02:26:07,900 --> 02:26:09,300
Those are the two things I have.

1868
02:26:09,380 --> 02:26:10,240
Thank you.

1869
02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:10,800
Thank you.

1870
02:26:11,060 --> 02:26:11,600
Was that fun?

1871
02:26:12,480 --> 02:26:12,780
Yes.

1872
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:14,540
Most of this is quick.

1873
02:26:14,540 --> 02:26:21,260
Um, I saw that we had a building official position that just got listed recently.

1874
02:26:21,380 --> 02:26:23,880
Is that a new position, or was that an exception?

1875
02:26:23,960 --> 02:26:32,800
No, no, that's an existing position, uh, there is anticipation of, uh, retirement of our building

1876
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:34,700
official coming up this fall.

1877
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:39,820
He seems serious about it and we are trying to plan a hit.

1878
02:26:39,820 --> 02:26:40,380
Okay.

1879
02:26:40,380 --> 02:26:41,560
move with transition.

1880
02:26:44,300 --> 02:26:49,820
Another thing I was wondering because hearing about the

1881
02:26:49,820 --> 02:26:58,860
glamping coming that up, I went on to our agenda for the 12th, when we

1882
02:26:58,860 --> 02:27:03,300
knew when we had that, which actually says the 13th on, I think we're going to get a

1883
02:27:03,300 --> 02:27:10,560
list, but anyways, the old presentation is no longer big. And I know that this

1884
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:20,480
new presentation, but I just wanted to revisit it and that isn't that a matter of public knowledge

1885
02:27:20,480 --> 02:27:25,780
that those all those links and all the letters that we received for and against it shouldn't

1886
02:27:25,780 --> 02:27:31,700
those all still be on there. You dealt with the two day of April 4 and 6 meeting we had to

1887
02:27:32,480 --> 02:27:35,420
You know, I'm talking about the board meeting.

1888
02:27:35,880 --> 02:27:37,780
We pay a side of the clamping to midnight.

1889
02:27:38,800 --> 02:27:38,840
Yeah.

1890
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:39,500
But they should.

1891
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:45,760
And they're certainly in the public record with the planning department.

1892
02:27:47,020 --> 02:27:47,060
OK.

1893
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:51,240
And everything under action items on that day.

1894
02:27:51,620 --> 02:27:52,560
There's nothing there.

1895
02:27:52,760 --> 02:27:54,220
There's nothing for the elections either.

1896
02:27:54,500 --> 02:27:57,460
Honestly, I can't remember if there was links for that or not.

1897
02:27:57,460 --> 02:28:01,700
But I just wanted to bring that up.

1898
02:28:02,460 --> 02:28:08,800
I would like to see that go back on there, just simply heard the fact that their public record.

1899
02:28:12,290 --> 02:28:14,130
Anyways, so there's that.

1900
02:28:15,410 --> 02:28:21,970
And then I was curious, when will the comprehensive plan come to the board for a review?

1901
02:28:23,730 --> 02:28:44,030
It's under-reviewed from the planning department there are probably three more months after review and then the planning department will review the draft of the entire document and the recommendations to move to the board.

1902
02:28:44,030 --> 02:28:48,430
We've been working on it now for a year and a half.

1903
02:28:48,910 --> 02:28:55,550
We were unable to complete any chapters until January of this year.

1904
02:28:56,430 --> 02:29:04,650
And then since then, the Plenty Commission has been completing draft chapters, usually about

1905
02:29:04,650 --> 02:29:06,410
two chapters per month.

1906
02:29:06,410 --> 02:29:15,470
We had almost two meetings for chapter prior to this year, so that's why it's close so quickly now.

1907
02:29:15,590 --> 02:29:17,510
It's because they're looking at things in the third time.

1908
02:29:18,350 --> 02:29:20,590
So it may be fall or something winter.

1909
02:29:21,550 --> 02:29:34,070
We hope to have all the chapters done by the end of the summer and then depending on how long it takes to put the final draft and for another planning commission and have them to review everything.

1910
02:29:34,070 --> 02:29:43,570
But yeah, so fall at the very worst case that I would imagine before saying for a

1911
02:29:43,570 --> 02:29:43,870
question.

1912
02:29:45,590 --> 02:29:45,630
Cool.

1913
02:29:46,530 --> 02:29:54,690
The other thing I was going to ask about is I was wondering how the board thought about

1914
02:29:54,690 --> 02:29:58,830
adding an item called old business.

1915
02:29:58,830 --> 02:29:59,970
You know, it's a prick.

1916
02:30:03,680 --> 02:30:29,200
But that way we can just kind of keep track on some of the things that we need to follow up on. One example is the 609 traffic study that I asked about earlier. We've asked about the short term, towards lodging registry. I know things have happened with the commissioner's office, but just to kind of keep those organized.

1917
02:30:30,670 --> 02:30:37,850
So, and no, we don't have to make a decision tonight, but I just wanted to bring that up for a discussion.

1918
02:30:41,260 --> 02:30:46,140
Can I suggest that you talk to the chair of our board?

1919
02:30:46,660 --> 02:30:49,560
She's the one that really improves the agenda's and stuff.

1920
02:30:49,560 --> 02:30:51,300
I have no problem ending it.

1921
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:54,520
So, I will just suggest you talk to Mr.

1922
02:30:56,580 --> 02:31:01,700
I will reach out and I'll make sure for example if you're under old business that we

1923
02:31:01,700 --> 02:31:07,620
have specific items, that way, except that a guy needs to revisit to bring back, he will

1924
02:31:07,620 --> 02:31:11,160
be caught off guard and that we can have an informative discussion.

1925
02:31:12,220 --> 02:31:12,480
Yeah.

1926
02:31:12,540 --> 02:31:12,820
Oh, yeah.

1927
02:31:13,440 --> 02:31:13,500
Yeah.

1928
02:31:13,900 --> 02:31:19,160
I mean, the point is to, so that it's more organized and just, you know, we just put these things

1929
02:31:19,160 --> 02:31:19,780
moving along.

1930
02:31:20,120 --> 02:31:22,140
That's all the point is of it.

1931
02:31:22,140 --> 02:31:34,060
I have this thing contacted me now that we have gone forward with the adoption tonight for R&C.

1932
02:31:34,580 --> 02:31:44,400
What would you say at the timeline of sister Taylor on that $30 fee? When would like the last R&C official bill go out?

1933
02:31:44,400 --> 02:31:46,460
I got one in June, but they are.

1934
02:31:46,660 --> 02:31:47,980
The facility to look was an honest one.

1935
02:31:47,980 --> 02:31:49,040
Do you want a Gmail I received?

1936
02:31:49,220 --> 02:31:50,380
Right, but it's close and there.

1937
02:31:50,980 --> 02:31:52,220
But let me suggest,

1938
02:31:54,740 --> 02:31:58,420
first of all, that these are two different, two different thoughts.

1939
02:31:59,660 --> 02:32:09,160
We are at right now this evening in the situation of having the three member counties agreeing

1940
02:32:09,160 --> 02:32:13,960
to the terms in the agreement and the concurrent resolution.

1941
02:32:13,960 --> 02:32:23,260
We need the RSA board to take action on Thursday, given the action taken by the three

1942
02:32:23,260 --> 02:32:28,700
member boards tonight, respectfully Mr. Bowman is one of our RSA reps.

1943
02:32:28,840 --> 02:32:36,980
I would want to suggest that it would be reasonable and appropriate for the RSA board to take

1944
02:32:36,980 --> 02:32:45,580
action on Thursday not only ought to approve the agreement that has been approved by

1945
02:32:45,580 --> 02:32:53,640
Orange Madison and Greenville, but also to rescind again the facility for you because there

1946
02:32:53,640 --> 02:33:03,680
is in the anticipated transition of operations to Green County. We do not intend to operate

1947
02:33:03,680 --> 02:33:06,940
going forward with facility theory.

1948
02:33:08,680 --> 02:33:18,260
So the timing is unfortunate with hearing and the process and the faulty hearing and

1949
02:33:18,260 --> 02:33:26,440
the more process that the RSA did to get to the situation that we're all are feel sick about

1950
02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:35,440
confusion in the imposition on the customers, but that was RSA's choice and dynamic at

1951
02:33:35,440 --> 02:33:36,200
the time.

1952
02:33:38,700 --> 02:33:44,520
So now as to when the first county bill will be misheavened and when

1953
02:33:45,980 --> 02:33:49,040
Operational transition will actually occur.

1954
02:33:50,580 --> 02:33:56,820
I have been working really alongside the curve,

1955
02:33:57,040 --> 02:33:58,440
the draft of the current agreement,

1956
02:33:58,800 --> 02:34:02,760
preparing the package for the Virginia resources authority.

1957
02:34:03,160 --> 02:34:05,720
We've done advance work with all the agencies

1958
02:34:05,720 --> 02:34:07,920
that need to approve this transition.

1959
02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:13,420
Realistically, I don't expect that that's going to happen by July.

1960
02:34:13,420 --> 02:34:21,140
first at this point, but we need to have, and I think that the dynamical change so that we

1961
02:34:21,140 --> 02:34:29,080
can have after the RSA board votes if they will vote to approve the agreement, that

1962
02:34:29,080 --> 02:34:38,080
should take us past the RSA staff resistance, frankly, to this transition. And if we'll at

1963
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:48,660
point become real and weak. So I expect to have a much better answer for the board in the

1964
02:34:48,660 --> 02:34:59,540
coming week to two weeks and by your next meeting, be talking about the transition plan.

1965
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:09,620
And talking about our water supply project and other projects and pending grant applications going forward.

1966
02:35:10,220 --> 02:35:22,220
And so that's up to the minute where we are, we're forward to sharing and as much as I feel comfortable sharing publicly right now,

1967
02:35:22,220 --> 02:35:36,220
Because the RSA, we need the RSA board to take responsible action on Thursday to implement the decisions of their boards of supervisors and the three counties, and I think we will march forward.

1968
02:35:36,860 --> 02:35:38,640
I had a good pace from there.

1969
02:35:39,120 --> 02:35:50,600
But we do, we can, and I hope that the RSA board of majority, it's a majority vote of the RSA board to take that fee away.

1970
02:35:50,600 --> 02:36:01,020
And, for us, due to technicality, the legal dispute, those will what drove the hearing

1971
02:36:01,020 --> 02:36:06,380
of RSA to re-institute the fee if this dispute had gone away and the fee would have gone

1972
02:36:06,380 --> 02:36:07,180
away sooner.

1973
02:36:07,820 --> 02:36:08,060
Okay.

1974
02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:09,460
So that's perfect.

1975
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:10,040
Thank you.

1976
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:17,940
It will relay about a possible resending of the fee on Thursday and will have more info

1977
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:19,020
in one to two weeks.

1978
02:36:19,020 --> 02:36:21,180
I think she'll be fine with that.

1979
02:36:22,140 --> 02:36:26,860
Also, she asked me about apparently

1980
02:36:26,860 --> 02:36:31,000
Comcast has a $30 discount that they will

1981
02:36:31,000 --> 02:36:34,760
give to senior citizens, Orange County does this.

1982
02:36:35,120 --> 02:36:37,980
So she called, she heard from a friend, you know, that

1983
02:36:37,980 --> 02:36:38,680
lives in Orange.

1984
02:36:39,180 --> 02:36:42,120
So she called Comcast, and Comcast told her

1985
02:36:42,120 --> 02:36:45,900
that Green doesn't approve this $30

1986
02:36:45,900 --> 02:36:48,520
or senior citizen discount.

1987
02:36:49,020 --> 02:36:52,260
So I wanted to just bring that attention to you.

1988
02:36:53,980 --> 02:36:55,080
Wait, help me.

1989
02:36:56,180 --> 02:36:59,460
There's a discount for students who are

1990
02:36:59,460 --> 02:37:01,240
only reduced income.

1991
02:37:01,780 --> 02:37:04,000
I've never heard of the senior citizen discount

1992
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:04,860
for kind of a cast.

1993
02:37:05,700 --> 02:37:07,460
So they said Orange County is a senior assistant

1994
02:37:07,460 --> 02:37:09,200
to discount box.

1995
02:37:09,380 --> 02:37:10,700
What do you think about a test mark?

1996
02:37:11,940 --> 02:37:12,700
I don't know.

1997
02:37:12,700 --> 02:37:13,680
I have no idea.

1998
02:37:22,880 --> 02:37:39,500
I don't know because I mean she heard it from her friend, but she did call and Comcast said oh yeah orange, you know has approved that but Green County has not. So maybe that's something we can look into because I mean that would just be a nice thing. I don't know what it all entails.

1999
02:37:39,500 --> 02:37:47,200
see what? Yeah. Great to find out more. I only have two more things and I'm hoping they'll

2000
02:37:47,200 --> 02:37:55,840
be relatively quick but another citizen that I've had a lot of conversations with is having

2001
02:37:55,840 --> 02:38:04,600
issues with an Airbnb which is being operated under an LLC and the owners, they're never there,

2002
02:38:04,600 --> 02:38:07,520
you know, this is strictly for people coming and going.

2003
02:38:08,460 --> 02:38:14,460
It is in the dogwood valley subdivision, so you know, the roads up there are dangerous.

2004
02:38:15,500 --> 02:38:20,860
Also the citizens are there, there's no HOA, they're not counting the teens,

2005
02:38:20,860 --> 02:38:24,880
so the citizens themselves are in charge of whatever happens.

2006
02:38:25,180 --> 02:38:28,500
They can get sued if something bad happens, so there's that aspect.

2007
02:38:30,870 --> 02:38:42,090
So, it's in the C1 zoning, and I'm concerned about this particularly, but also in the

2008
02:38:42,090 --> 02:38:50,630
more general sense about just this tourist lodging and the 16 and 251 ordinance that we have,

2009
02:38:50,630 --> 02:38:59,990
because if you look at 3-1-1, which is uses per-mitted by right, it just says

2010
02:38:59,990 --> 02:39:10,570
tourist lodging in accordance to 16-25-1. That states in the 0.3 of 16-25-1

2011
02:39:10,570 --> 02:39:15,010
is states. One dwelling per parcel is permitted for tourist lodging and

2012
02:39:15,010 --> 02:39:23,590
I'll be in accordance with all applicable zoning district requirements, yards, setbacks, heights, etc.

2013
02:39:25,170 --> 02:39:34,630
3-2 says for the C1 says the minimum law area for permitted uses shall be 8 acres.

2014
02:39:35,970 --> 02:39:41,610
And this is this particular property is 0

2015
02:39:44,100 --> 02:39:44,820
.25.

2016
02:39:47,260 --> 02:39:59,980
So it doesn't make sense, it's contradicting to me, you know, I don't know how others feel about it.

2017
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:13,520
But the other part of this is that the deed of dedication specifically states that all of these properties in the subdivision are for residential use only.

2018
02:40:15,180 --> 02:40:25,740
So, you know, maybe you could argue that an Airbnb is not a business at the home, you know, but that goes against our ordinance in our one in a way.

2019
02:40:25,740 --> 02:40:28,240
So I don't know.

2020
02:40:28,560 --> 02:40:37,500
I think that, so the question is, Jim, what do they need to do?

2021
02:40:38,440 --> 02:40:40,140
Because they want to do something.

2022
02:40:40,300 --> 02:40:42,700
Do they need to do a petition of some sort?

2023
02:40:42,760 --> 02:40:44,520
Do they need to go to the Planning Commission?

2024
02:40:44,720 --> 02:40:45,960
What can this community do?

2025
02:40:46,280 --> 02:40:47,520
Who is that in this question?

2026
02:40:48,120 --> 02:40:52,140
Well, I will get her or I'll give you the information afterwards.

2027
02:40:52,140 --> 02:40:59,640
Okay, you say is it random people in the United States or is it that particular number?

2028
02:40:59,640 --> 02:41:05,440
No, Dogway, Dogway, Dogway, Dogway, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley.

2029
02:41:05,460 --> 02:41:12,480
Okay, so the simple, we can talk about this probably easier to explain in the office.

2030
02:41:12,660 --> 02:41:22,120
The simple thing is that particular property has its own certification is fully legal even if the board chooses to change the law.

2031
02:41:22,120 --> 02:41:26,820
They would then be grandfathered and continue to continue

2032
02:41:26,820 --> 02:41:29,040
as an outcome for me to use.

2033
02:41:29,420 --> 02:41:34,160
The lot size has nothing to do with the zoning

2034
02:41:34,160 --> 02:41:39,900
or the certification for the Airbnb and the determination

2035
02:41:39,900 --> 02:41:42,460
about anything to do with the DE.

2036
02:41:43,000 --> 02:41:46,600
Not as many issues as a private citizen matter

2037
02:41:46,600 --> 02:41:49,140
and they would have to talk to a attorney

2038
02:41:49,140 --> 02:41:52,180
into advice for them on my English law.

2039
02:41:53,960 --> 02:41:54,220
So...

2040
02:41:54,220 --> 02:41:56,920
Well, we don't distinguish between houses.

2041
02:41:57,660 --> 02:42:02,040
We don't regulate private agreements between landowners.

2042
02:42:02,780 --> 02:42:04,260
So, that's the deal.

2043
02:42:05,200 --> 02:42:10,020
Any major way stuff is outside of candidates' control and authority.

2044
02:42:11,280 --> 02:42:15,420
So that's fine.

2045
02:42:15,420 --> 02:42:22,900
So, I guess what I need to tell them is that it has to go through legal research.

2046
02:42:22,900 --> 02:42:28,580
My suggestion if they have questions, there's absolutely no reason why they can't call on

2047
02:42:28,580 --> 02:42:31,600
asking and will explain everything in the beginning.

2048
02:42:31,620 --> 02:42:37,460
Well, that's why I'm bringing up because this, I think you spoke to this man and then he's

2049
02:42:37,460 --> 02:42:40,660
tried to call back three times and hasn't received a phone call back.

2050
02:42:42,940 --> 02:42:52,260
So I have voice mail, I haven't received a voice mail, I'm at the email here every day, I'm

2051
02:42:52,260 --> 02:42:56,680
more than happy to meet with the person, respond to email, and I'll leave the message

2052
02:42:56,680 --> 02:42:57,420
on that together.

2053
02:42:57,780 --> 02:42:58,200
So respond.

2054
02:42:59,140 --> 02:43:08,060
Then I'm going to relay that information to him, but I still think that there's some issues

2055
02:43:08,060 --> 02:43:14,580
here, like, I don't, the wording doesn't make sense. Now, if what you're saying is true,

2056
02:43:14,640 --> 02:43:19,740
which, you know, I have no reason to necessarily believe that it isn't, but the wording

2057
02:43:19,740 --> 02:43:27,160
in our zoning is not clear. It does seem to contradict itself a little bit. I have also

2058
02:43:27,160 --> 02:43:33,120
a little bit about the loss of the wording. But in this particular, so again, that's

2059
02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:40,720
But it's the lot it was created, it doesn't forward change at all, and that law doesn't

2060
02:43:40,720 --> 02:43:41,320
exist.

2061
02:43:41,760 --> 02:43:46,180
When the source changes the law, you don't take away that present property rights, you

2062
02:43:46,180 --> 02:43:51,860
don't take away their ability to have a house on that property, and then the tourist lodging

2063
02:43:51,860 --> 02:43:58,800
law says, if you have a house on a legal lot, and you're in C1, then you can do tourist

2064
02:44:02,540 --> 02:44:07,420
So, it's just about the law on about what legal and non-conforming things.

2065
02:44:07,960 --> 02:44:13,060
We have a lot of lots of green that were created before zoning or before the zoning

2066
02:44:13,060 --> 02:44:19,980
lots of changes. My house is a non-conforming lot. It wouldn't be allowed to be created today,

2067
02:44:20,340 --> 02:44:24,280
but no one on the board has the authority to take my house away.

2068
02:44:24,280 --> 02:44:25,760
So, does it easy to say?

2069
02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:29,460
No, it doesn't make sense.

2070
02:44:29,820 --> 02:44:35,380
So, you know, maybe it's because I don't see a lot within our zoning ordinances of where

2071
02:44:35,380 --> 02:44:37,380
like those revisions have happened.

2072
02:44:38,100 --> 02:44:43,560
There's some, but there wasn't one, at least I didn't see one of what you're saying.

2073
02:44:43,640 --> 02:44:46,840
So, that would actually have helped me to better understand.

2074
02:44:47,560 --> 02:44:50,200
So, that's just something I thought I'd throw out there.

2075
02:44:50,200 --> 02:44:55,000
But I do think that we do need to look at this.

2076
02:44:55,260 --> 02:44:59,340
I think that it would be good if the board did workshop or gardening.

2077
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:28,480
The zoning and the SPP and the tourist lodging. And I think it would be good to do it as more of a community forum and I would like to get feedback from people that, you know, however they want to see it be or whatever their concerns are or why they like it. It just seems to be the past couple years, a very big deal in this county and I think that we should start looking at it a little bit closer.

2078
02:45:32,620 --> 02:45:43,160
for me. So last night I said I went to the standards bill town council and they did talk about

2079
02:45:43,160 --> 02:45:53,840
the glamping proposal and it was said at least two but I think three times it was said by two or

2080
02:45:53,840 --> 02:46:00,360
three different people that the Board of Supervisors helped the applicant find a suitable parcel

2081
02:46:01,040 --> 02:46:06,160
or, and that would be the one cross from cell row or, yeah, on cell row.

2082
02:46:07,380 --> 02:46:12,580
So, is that true? Because I was not part of the head conversation.

2083
02:46:13,580 --> 02:46:22,000
The board doesn't look for parcels from businesses. So, no, the board did not help them find it civil parcel.

2084
02:46:22,000 --> 02:46:24,860
Oh, okay, okay.

2085
02:46:25,140 --> 02:46:27,740
At the board, at the board, as a whole did that,

2086
02:46:27,940 --> 02:46:30,040
you would be aware of that fact.

2087
02:46:30,700 --> 02:46:32,820
Well, that's, yeah, that's why I was bringing it up

2088
02:46:32,820 --> 02:46:34,620
because it seemed awfully strange

2089
02:46:34,620 --> 02:46:37,920
that it would be said by three people.

2090
02:46:39,760 --> 02:46:43,360
And that I had no idea that this had occurred.

2091
02:46:44,160 --> 02:46:46,740
So, okay, doesn't it?

2092
02:46:46,740 --> 02:46:49,240
Jim, I'm not sure what book.

2093
02:46:49,240 --> 02:46:57,060
If Dogwood Valley has got driveways like yes right, I think I carried rock up on 1970 on

2094
02:46:57,060 --> 02:47:00,440
in my dump truck because it didn't have to raise your body up.

2095
02:47:00,460 --> 02:47:03,200
You just back down to the house and pull up the wheel.

2096
02:47:03,400 --> 02:47:04,920
That's how steep the driveways are.

2097
02:47:05,940 --> 02:47:12,040
So I mean, it may be because I don't, Marie, you said they may have had zone in there.

2098
02:47:12,040 --> 02:47:14,060
This is 70 million.

2099
02:47:14,700 --> 02:47:16,700
Yeah, a lot of those times gone.

2100
02:47:16,880 --> 02:47:21,240
Most of those internal subdivisions gone to 6, 6, 9, 7, and 7, and 7, and 1.

2101
02:47:21,420 --> 02:47:23,120
So it was copykhangs.

2102
02:47:23,840 --> 02:47:24,520
Yeah, that's what it was.

2103
02:47:25,800 --> 02:47:31,120
I thought, if you find any vertical mountain in the valley of the Jinguines,

2104
02:47:31,380 --> 02:47:33,260
Blue Rises in the Jinguines, somehow,

2105
02:47:34,000 --> 02:47:37,260
BKhangs bought it and made it into some division in the early 70s.

2106
02:47:37,600 --> 02:47:41,160
I wanted why the people who lived up by what a lived when they came down here.

2107
02:47:41,940 --> 02:47:43,880
One day, it's children in the level.

2108
02:47:44,240 --> 02:47:53,080
Just a quick note, when we transfer the location to the PAC and one bus meeting, the agenda is on mind.

2109
02:47:53,520 --> 02:47:57,980
It's just that the links typically are associated with the drainage system.

2110
02:47:58,380 --> 02:48:03,240
So the links to the packages for the meeting aren't lies.

2111
02:48:03,460 --> 02:48:07,060
And we'll try to figure out a way to make that more accessible.

2112
02:48:07,060 --> 02:48:14,480
But anybody, especially as a board member, you can call our staff and planning, you can

2113
02:48:14,480 --> 02:48:17,640
call Miss Morris, and we can easily provide that information.

2114
02:48:18,880 --> 02:48:23,220
So it's there when we're working on those links, but it has to do with the meeting being shifted.

2115
02:48:23,880 --> 02:48:25,800
But the agenda is actually posted.

2116
02:48:26,480 --> 02:48:26,720
Okay.

2117
02:48:27,220 --> 02:48:27,500
Yeah, no.

2118
02:48:27,760 --> 02:48:28,680
But it is.

2119
02:48:28,740 --> 02:48:32,920
I just was looking for the links, and then it was like over the weekend or something.

2120
02:48:32,920 --> 02:48:36,160
And then the planning commission won, got posted.

2121
02:48:36,680 --> 02:48:38,080
So I just, I looked at that.

2122
02:48:38,080 --> 02:48:40,200
But I just wanted to bring it to your attention.

2123
02:48:40,980 --> 02:48:42,820
You know, those links aren't there.

2124
02:48:42,820 --> 02:48:43,960
And they are public records.

2125
02:48:44,240 --> 02:48:46,260
So I don't know how we got to do it.

2126
02:48:46,260 --> 02:48:48,400
But we got to get them back up.

2127
02:48:48,680 --> 02:48:49,340
Thank you.

2128
02:48:49,600 --> 02:48:50,420
Eric, what can I have with you?

2129
02:48:50,480 --> 02:48:51,740
I have to be warm for you.

2130
02:48:51,800 --> 02:48:52,500
Yes, ma'am.

2131
02:48:53,320 --> 02:48:55,180
Most of the time, you might want to listen to this.

2132
02:48:55,700 --> 02:49:01,020
I got an email from the ladies' valour at the Registrar's Office,

2133
02:49:01,020 --> 02:49:29,680
And she said, thanks for calling, recently regarding my email, I have preliminary figures regarding the ally rate for deputy registrar from other locations, and I love the of those who have completed this recent survey to range for part time deputy registrar falls in range of 14 to 25 dollars on our 1438 14

2134
02:49:29,680 --> 02:49:41,440
up to 24 or 25. The population range of the counties is from 10,000 to 20,000 to 24,500.

2135
02:49:43,060 --> 02:49:50,240
And then she was showing the ranges up to 24,500. I think that's what she's doing.

2136
02:49:51,220 --> 02:49:55,460
So, I mean, I don't appreciate it. You know, not being constitutional officer.

2137
02:49:55,460 --> 02:49:55,560
I'm sorry.

2138
02:49:58,820 --> 02:49:59,620
I'm sorry.

2139
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:15,880
Kind of a lot quicker. Based on what I think I would like to recommend, is that once the November election takes place and we have a commissioner revenue elected, I think we need to have a workshop with a commissioner revenue to review certain things.

2140
02:50:15,880 --> 02:50:20,140
When I was through my attention to business tax, the licensed tax, how do we do that?

2141
02:50:20,540 --> 02:50:22,060
It's different for the localities.

2142
02:50:22,600 --> 02:50:26,260
The personal private tax, I mentioned earlier, trying to create, have got equalization.

2143
02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:29,500
And the elderly tax relief as well.

2144
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:33,800
Some of these items should become part of our yearly process.

2145
02:50:34,040 --> 02:50:35,520
Like the elderly tax relief.

2146
02:50:35,640 --> 02:50:38,560
That should be something that should be part of our normal process.

2147
02:50:38,700 --> 02:50:41,240
That comes from Mr. Remu as far as the impact.

2148
02:50:41,780 --> 02:50:43,280
And we can make an decision on that.

2149
02:50:43,280 --> 02:50:44,200
We discussed it this year.

2150
02:50:44,320 --> 02:50:48,740
We read into Gactionals that, you know, inclination or personal property tax, hopefully when

2151
02:50:48,740 --> 02:50:52,520
government faces the same situation, but we had that information earlier on, it would

2152
02:50:52,520 --> 02:50:57,960
be much easier for us to make it a decision and, of course, the business tax, you know, we

2153
02:50:57,960 --> 02:50:59,860
need to look at that and how that's handled as well.

2154
02:51:00,080 --> 02:51:03,740
But we really can't do that and do a Commissioner reviews full of like to it, all right,

2155
02:51:03,760 --> 02:51:07,340
and you have a current Commissioner or the Intercommissioners, is got their hands pretty

2156
02:51:07,340 --> 02:51:13,260
busy, but I like this just that we do that, also I would like to revisit a TOT tax.

2157
02:51:13,260 --> 02:51:17,580
at some point in time, as far as the increments we had like 6, 7, and 8 cents, had that

2158
02:51:17,580 --> 02:51:23,120
could impact tourism going forward, and we said, so that's what dedicated that public safety.

2159
02:51:23,960 --> 02:51:30,360
But that's what we sound like we could probably do, maybe in November, and then again, you

2160
02:51:30,360 --> 02:51:32,180
know, in the end of who's in office,

2161
02:51:34,260 --> 02:51:36,400
there's a possibility to guess money in office, who's

2162
02:51:36,400 --> 02:51:41,940
never been in office, and that position before, that may make it a little bit more challenging

2163
02:51:41,940 --> 02:51:46,980
to get the information, but just a little bit.

2164
02:51:47,500 --> 02:51:49,340
But that information would help us quite a bit.

2165
02:51:49,540 --> 02:51:53,820
I think if we start our process and give it through it,

2166
02:51:53,900 --> 02:51:58,020
I don't think we'll revisit the same situation we're in now.

2167
02:51:58,460 --> 02:52:01,060
And if it goes, it's to make sure we learn from the current situation

2168
02:52:01,060 --> 02:52:03,360
and not revisit in the future.

2169
02:52:03,780 --> 02:52:04,600
And it's clear that.

2170
02:52:05,680 --> 02:52:12,060
I'm just having one minor thing to bring up on the business tax I've talked to Ms. Tade and

2171
02:52:12,060 --> 02:52:16,460
have had several people call me and I know we haven't reviewed that for good number of

2172
02:52:16,460 --> 02:52:21,840
years and I think we can discuss this with Ms. Tade or if new Commissioner Howard's going

2173
02:52:21,840 --> 02:52:27,200
to work and a future with my one review and look into that a little bit.

2174
02:52:27,380 --> 02:52:31,000
I think what he said in the calls to the beginning was having as people were getting hit hard

2175
02:52:31,000 --> 02:52:33,600
with the gas prices, the cost of materials,

2176
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:35,260
and the business tax, and everything else.

2177
02:52:35,320 --> 02:52:37,120
And we are different, the elsewhere in the country.

2178
02:52:37,300 --> 02:52:39,940
And maybe we should start up a time frame to review

2179
02:52:39,940 --> 02:52:42,360
some of these ordinances in the past,

2180
02:52:43,520 --> 02:52:46,720
and have this on the books, but really haven't been looked at.

2181
02:52:46,880 --> 02:52:48,640
We may need to update some of that on.

2182
02:52:49,000 --> 02:52:49,280
No, no, no, no.

2183
02:52:49,280 --> 02:52:51,020
That's not supposed to think about, I think,

2184
02:52:51,240 --> 02:52:51,920
to fall to.

2185
02:52:51,960 --> 02:52:53,960
Yeah, that's a good idea.

2186
02:52:54,360 --> 02:52:56,540
Because I've gotten calls to people,

2187
02:52:56,540 --> 02:52:59,200
but I said, yeah, I mean, anything else in the board?

2188
02:53:00,340 --> 02:53:03,060
If not, I'll entertain your motion to adjourn.

2189
02:53:03,260 --> 02:53:03,960
So moved.

2190
02:53:05,440 --> 02:53:05,740
I'll second.

2191
02:53:06,480 --> 02:53:08,500
We get stick heard of motion for adjourn.

2192
02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:09,820
Who is Mr. Bowman's second?

2193
02:53:10,180 --> 02:53:11,460
We'll call that, Mr. Bowman.

2194
02:53:11,580 --> 02:53:11,920
All right.

2195
02:53:12,100 --> 02:53:12,620
Mr. Bowman.

2196
02:53:13,260 --> 02:53:13,820
Mr. Herring.

2197
02:53:14,460 --> 02:53:14,940
Mr. Layne.

2198
02:53:15,600 --> 02:53:16,620
Elector of the Excellents.