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[0:00] Welcome to the June 14th, 2022, or a civil adviser meeting. We have a closed meeting on this Council. Would you please
[0:10] pre-the motion please? Yes, ma'am. Whereas, the Board of Supervisors of Green County
[0:16] decided to discuss and close meeting the following matters. Consultation with legal counsel
[0:21] pertaining to actual approval litigation, or such consultation at the meeting would have adversely
[0:26] effect the negotiating or litigating posture of the public body concerning RSA.
[0:31] Consultation of legal counsel employed or retained by a public body regarding specific legal
[0:35] matters requiring the provision of legal advice by such council concerning tower space
[0:39] and jaunt. Whereas, pursuant to Section 2.2-3711-8788 of the Code of Virginia, such discussions
[0:47] may occur in a closed meeting. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Board of Supervisors
[0:50] of Green County does hear about authorized discussion in the afford state of matters in
[0:54] meeting. I just need that permission. So move, second. We have a motion to go and close
[0:59] session. I'm Mr. Here on the second, I'm Mr. Lamol Coles, this is the moment.
[1:03] Hi. Miss Halfway? Hi, Mr. Lam. Mr. Hereing? Hi.
[1:07] The terror vote side. Thank you.
[1:14] Thank you.
[1:20] You talk too late.
[1:24] Can you believe it?
[1:26] I don't know.
[1:26] They can't
[1:38] reach you.
[1:39] They might be that green orange tackle.
[1:43] Huh?
[1:45] Green home tobacco.
[1:48] Oh yeah.
[1:49] Why would you have tobacco in this early opportunity?
[1:57] I should, I know you call them a great thing.
[2:00] I have a text letter in my veins.
[3:32] It's a big Christmas gift.
[3:34] My raised is an, I'm used to it, I'm happy.
[3:37] Someone is drawing.
[3:38] I thought, okay, well, that goes.
[3:44] Yeah.
[3:44] That's a good thing.
[3:46] Yeah it has a little longer band.
[3:49] And I think it's a, it's taking a well-scheduled outfit.
[3:56] Yeah I appreciate it.
[3:57] They said, well why for so much, they started to branch over it, but didn't go there.
[4:35] They did a great job with the
[4:35] I'm the guy who was okay.
[4:38] You said we got a luggage break?
[4:40] The cigarette was gonna blow a little bit like a barrel.
[4:43] Is that two had greenburner?
[4:46] No.
[4:47] We must have some extra.
[4:48] There was an interesting thing.
[4:50] That was a check of the shirt.
[4:52] I didn't want to...
[4:53] I don't think that was a monster heart.
[4:57] I just moved on...
[4:58] I said I'm not sure.
[5:08] It's like, it's like, it's one of the things I'm going to take a sample of that.
[5:47] So this is...
[5:50] You go, believe me?
[5:52] Yeah, I'm not sure if that's good.
[5:53] And you can suddenly get a few of them on the side.
[5:56] We'll have to do this.
[5:59] I'll just take a break.
[6:02] I'll just take a break.
[6:03] I'll just take a break.
[6:05] There's no time.
[6:07] There's no time.
[6:08] There's no time.
[6:10] There's no time.
[6:11] There's no time.
[6:12] There's no time.
[6:13] There's no time.
[6:13] There's no time.
[6:13] I don't want to go to the region.
[6:14] What's up?
[6:18] How are you?
[6:20] How are you?
[6:21] Can you go?
[6:22] I don't know what's happening.
[6:26] I know.
[6:33] I've got some random person out there.
[6:36] Now how does that end?
[6:40] Yeah.
[6:40] I don't know about it.
[6:43] I don't know about it.
[6:44] I don't know about it.
[6:45] I don't know about it.
[6:45] So, what do you want to do, that's it?
[6:47] Yeah, I do.
[6:48] If you have to have a good one, I'll just just close it up.
[6:51] You should have a good one.
[6:53] Yes, sir.
[6:54] I don't know about it.
[6:57] I don't know about it.
[6:57] So, it's already all in that.
[6:58] Mr.
[7:00] Jim, Jim?
[7:01] Jim?
[7:01] Sorry.
[7:02] Jim, sorry.
[7:05] Welcome to Tuesday, June 14th, 2022, Board of Supervisors meeting, we have been in closed session.
[7:13] We have a motion to come out of closed session.
[7:15] So moved.
[7:17] I have a motion and a second on the floor to come out of closed meeting.
[7:21] Roll call vote.
[7:22] Mr. Bellman.
[7:24] Aye.
[7:24] Ms. Halfland.
[7:25] Mr. Lam.
[7:27] Mr. Harry.
[7:28] And share my time.
[7:29] Thank you.
[7:30] If there are any business that needs to come out of our clothes, we'll just certify first.
[7:34] Oh, I guess I do need to certify that one.
[7:36] Sorry.
[7:36] Thank you.
[7:39] Thank you.
[7:39] All members certify that only public business matters,
[7:42] lawfully exempted from the open meeting,
[7:44] requirements, and only such matters,
[7:46] as the identified by the motion to air in the closed meeting,
[7:48] or to discuss, we'll call the Mr. Hearing.
[7:51] I certify. Mr. Lam.
[7:53] I certify.
[7:54] Mr. Half-Lim.
[7:54] I certify.
[7:55] Mr. Baldwin.
[7:56] I certify.
[7:57] And the chair of certifies.
[7:58] Thank you.
[7:59] Thank you.
[8:00] So our matters that need to be brought before.
[8:03] Yes, Pam, Chairman.
[8:04] I moved to authorize the County Administrator to execute the Communication Tower
[8:08] Leases as discussed in close session.
[8:11] Do we have a second?
[8:12] A second.
[8:13] I'm the motion by Mr. Harry and a second by Mr. Lam.
[8:17] All followed by Mr. Bellman.
[8:18] Hi.
[8:19] Ms. Halfland.
[8:20] I, Mr. Lam.
[8:21] Mr. Harry.
[8:22] Hi.
[8:22] In the chair vote sign.
[8:24] Thank you.
[8:25] Then the other members.
[8:26] Madam Chair.
[8:27] Yes, Mr. Bellman.
[8:29] I'd like to make a motion this concurrent resolution of the boards of supervisors of Orange County, Madison County, and Green County, Virginia,
[8:39] approving the withdrawal and transition agreement for Green County withdrawal from the Rapidands Service Authority, and I'm going to read the whole thing.
[8:47] Whereas Orange County, Orange, Madison County, Madison, and Green County Green, Virginia,
[8:55] collectively, the counties are participating localities of the Rapid Ann Service Authority, the RSA.
[9:02] And whereas on April 5, 2021, the Board of Supervisors of Green signifying its desire to withdraw from RSA by adopting a resolution under Virginia code 15.2-5-1-1-2-B.
[9:16] And whereas, at its April 5th, 2021 Resolution, the Board of Supervisors of Green also
[9:23] called, for unanimous consent to withdraw by Orange and Madison under 15.2-552A.
[9:32] And whereas, on April 13th, 2021, the Board of Supervisors of Madison adopted a resolution
[9:38] and unanimously consenting to the withdrawal of green on the condition that green provide
[9:43] evidence that the bond holders of green and the RSA consent to withdraw, and that the withdrawal
[9:49] follow the approvals and protocols that set forth in 15.2-5112.
[9:56] And whereas also on April 13, 2021, the Board of Supercompsies.
[10:00] The resolution unanimously consenting to the withdrawal of green from RSA, pursuant to 15.2-5112, and supporting the initiation of the process for the proper separation of green from the RSA.
[10:14] Subject to orange and Madison entering into an agreement to configure the RSA board with an orange majority after green's departure.
[10:21] And whereas, May 25, 2021, Madison Orange entered into a memorandum agreement, agreeing that
[10:30] prior to Greens' withdrawal from participation in the RSA, the boards of supervisors
[10:35] of Greens' Madison Orange will adopt the concurrent resolution to amend the article
[10:39] so that effective upon Greens' withdrawal, the RSA's governing board, shall consist of five
[10:47] representatives, three of whom shall be appointed by Orange, and two of whom shall be appointed by Madison.
[10:53] And whereas the Orange, Madison, and Green boards of supervisors that Dr. Resolutions dated May 10,
[10:59] 2022 addressing the terms for Greens withdrawal from the RSA,
[11:03] and directing the preparation of the withdrawal and transition agreement.
[11:08] Whereas the RSA board adopted a resolution dated May 19, 2022 addressing the terms for Greens withdrawal from the RSA,
[11:15] Whereas the attached withdrawal and transition agreement has been prepared, whereas the orange
[11:21] mass and green boards of supervisors find the attached withdrawal and transition agreement
[11:25] to be acceptable, for the resolution of the pending dispute and completion of greens
[11:30] withdrawal from the RSA, whereas the orange, Madison and green boards of supervisors
[11:34] call up on the RSA board of members to adopt its own resolution, approving withdrawal
[11:39] and transition agreement, under before June 16, 2022.
[11:44] Now, therefore, be it resolved that by concurrent resolution of the respective board
[11:49] of supervisors, each of the counties does hereby approve the attached withdrawal
[11:53] and transition agreement and calls upon the RSA board of members to adopt its own
[11:58] resolution, approving withdrawal and transition agreement, honor before June 16, 2022.
[12:05] It is with us thereof, the boards of supervisors of orange, Madison and Green have adopted
[12:10] this concurrent resolution, approving the withdrawal and transition agreement and calling
[12:15] by on the RSA Board of Members to adapt its own resolution, approving the withdrawal and
[12:20] transition agreement under before June 16, 2022. This kind of current resolution, approving
[12:26] the withdrawal and transition agreement dated June 14, 2022, for Green County withdrawal from
[12:32] the Rapid Ann Services Authority. I'll second half.
[12:35] We have a motion by Mr. Berlin, a second by Mr. Harry, you all call a vote.
[12:40] Mr. Bellman.
[12:41] All right.
[12:42] Just have one. Aye. Mr. Lam.
[12:44] Mr. Harry.
[12:45] Aye.
[12:45] And the chair votes aye.
[12:46] Thank you very much.
[12:50] Any other matters coming out of close session?
[12:53] If not, if I can ask everyone to please rise and have a pledge of allegiance and no moment of silence
[12:58] at the completion.
[13:01] I would like to clarify the United States of America, and to the other of which is saying
[13:08] what the United States of America and the Bizzle would live at the end of justice for all.
[13:34] Thank you.
[13:36] May be seated.
[13:42] Can I have a motion for the adoption of our agenda?
[13:45] So moved.
[13:47] Madam Chair.
[13:47] Yes, Madam Chair.
[13:48] I'd like to second that.
[13:49] But I'd request that item 8CB separated.
[13:53] We just discussed that for a few minutes.
[13:55] I had a time, and then I'll second the motion for the adjournment.
[13:58] All right, that's fine.
[14:01] You have a motion about Mr. Heron and a second about Mr. Millman.
[14:04] We'll call that, Mr. Heron.
[14:06] Mr. Lam.
[14:08] Yes, I have.
[14:09] Mr. Millman.
[14:09] All right.
[14:10] And the chair of the time.
[14:11] Thank you.
[14:21] Next item would be matters from the committee.
[14:27] I just want to remind everyone that,
[14:30] in accordance with their bylaws that you limit the comment to three minutes.
[14:36] First is Hugh Davis.
[14:38] He's come forward please.
[14:44] Yes, my name is Hugh Davis.
[14:45] I live at 221 Fairling, Dr. Alexander Swilford,
[14:48] and I spoke to many of you this whole past week about doing something for the elderly
[14:55] and Mark Taylor and Jim, you all said it.
[15:00] Since you all looked at that again, and by the national average of inflation, if you increase that only by 3% by the national average, which is below that, I mean above that, Europe were behind $10,000 at least.
[15:15] So, I just want to bring that to the board, you're way behind 10,000, 10 grand on this deal.
[15:22] And I think you ought to be looking out for the elderly that, or in these terrible times,
[15:28] I didn't ask for this inflation at this rate.
[15:31] And I only asked you for 50% reduction on our real estate, which is far behind any other county surrounding us.
[15:42] Albumarl, we'd be 75%, fall care Fairfax Lab in Prince William, we'd be 100% you know, and
[15:52] Regure, you said somebody's got to pay the taxes yet, but not off of my sweat and blood.
[15:57] I've worked 70 years hard for this money, and it's about time somebody's 70 years old
[16:02] give us old folks as cotton tops, a break.
[16:05] We need a break, and the only people that I think they want to up your taxes, when you
[16:09] tax assessment comes up is those that are going to profit constantly by it when they cut
[16:15] out and sell their land and go to Costa Rica somewhere else. I don't like that deal one
[16:20] bit either. It's not a time to give higher taxes and any time in this kind of situation this
[16:27] country is in this high inflation. Five books were down the gas, that's a call for. And 30% on the food
[16:34] increase, I can't make it. We're on a fixed increase, fixed income rather, and there's a lot
[16:41] of people and the same shoes that we're in. We need help ASAP. You know, this stuff we're going
[16:48] to get around to it. Please, let's jump in on this and do this for us. We need it, need a bag.
[16:56] We can't go nowhere. It's like, we're at the COVID deal. We're stranded. I got to put 100 bucks
[17:04] 80 bucks in the gas tank for one vehicle. That's got to last us two weeks. Even at 50%
[17:11] $1,000 in 3% of the population in Green County, you would be only missing 50 to $60,000.
[17:22] I don't think you are going to miss 50 or $60,000. I think the people who would benefit from us as
[17:32] citizens would be a thousand dollars a year off of our taxes. That'd be a
[17:38] tank full of gas a month, which would be a big asset to us. And I can't
[17:44] understand if this board does not vote to help the elderly people out. I cannot
[17:49] believe it. If you won't get on the bandwagon and help us out ASAP, we need it now.
[17:56] And I don't think your Bows are compassionate tied up yet, but you need to do something
[18:01] for all of us. In this same circumstances that I'm talking about, Davis, I talk to you,
[18:07] Mr. Herring, Taylor, Jim, I spoke to all of you and Ms. Blitz, have one too. I spoke to you
[18:14] all about this. We really need some action and the most people, as I said, were only talking
[18:20] about 2% of the population that were 3% in this county that would fit that bill.
[18:30] And all the
[18:31] And I think, you know, we shouldn't be the least amount in all of these counties.
[18:37] We ought to be somewhere in the middle with them, and I'm not asking for a free ride.
[18:42] Just cut at 50%.
[18:44] That would help us immensely.
[18:47] But anyhow, thank you.
[18:49] Thank you.
[18:51] Thank you.
[18:51] Scott Mingo Dorf.
[18:53] Thanks for coming.
[18:55] Welcome.
[18:56] Thank you.
[18:57] As stated, I am Scott Mingo Dorf.
[18:59] I live up on Cal Mountain to a known Cal Mountain road of these Pacific.
[19:06] Madam Chair, person, ladies and gentlemen, board.
[19:09] Thank you for giving me this time to address you.
[19:13] The Comprehensive Plan is a well-thought-out and well articulated option.
[19:18] And most instances, the zoning ordinance is remarkably consistent and implementing the intent of that plan.
[19:27] Nonetheless, I have witnessed that the language concerning tourist lodging in section 16-25
[19:34] of that ordinance is so broad as to invite abuse.
[19:40] Even within that section, the language for by-right usage within the A1 and C1 districts
[19:46] specifies that any such years shall be in accordance with all applicable zoning district requirements.
[19:52] On the contrary, 1625-2, sets note.
[20:00] The permitted types or intensity of commercial activity, nor any requirement to be in accordance with other applicable zoning district requirements.
[20:11] It has been used as the basis for ignoring otherwise sensible restrictions on population density and permitted commercial activities in the A1 and C1 districts.
[20:24] Both growth and increased tourism are established trends, but should be regulated properly
[20:30] to protect the property rights of the county's residents.
[20:34] It is neither fair to the citizens of this county.
[20:39] Nor into commercial entities wishing to part the way that us to leave the limits of property
[20:44] use so ambiguous as to constantly test where that limit may be, or whether the limit exists
[20:52] at a home. I asked the Board to direct the staff to develop limits
[20:58] consistent with the language and intent of the comprehensive plan, and those are the A1 and
[21:05] C1 zoning districts, and to involve the public in this process. Until such time that the
[21:12] language concerning to a dislodging is revised, I request that the Board needs
[21:17] consider, deferring the approval of special use permits under 16-25.
[21:23] I appreciate the opportunity to speak.
[21:25] Thank you very much.
[21:27] Thank you.
[21:28] This is a privilege to be here with you.
[21:30] I would like to come forward.
[21:32] I can have from chair.
[21:34] Anybody that is joining us at home,
[21:37] for most of you please look at the instructions on your screen
[21:40] and raise your hand so that we can see it like a rest of the board.
[21:44] So, it starts with normal left-hand side of the screen
[21:47] and you a few moments to raise your hand.
[22:03] It does not appear, we have any public speakers from home.
[22:05] Thank you, Mr. Brewer.
[22:07] Senator, let's start agenda.
[22:09] All that we want to take, I don't want A and B together.
[22:13] I'm really about to see at this time.
[22:16] Madam Chair, I'll make a motion to approve the consent of Joan A and B.
[22:20] I'll second that.
[22:20] We have a motion on Mr. Bowman, a second on Mr. Hearing.
[22:23] On the consent agenda, we'll call that, Mr. Bowman.
[22:27] Mr. Bowman?
[22:28] Mr. Bowman?
[22:29] Excuse me, Mr. Lam?
[22:31] Mr. Hearing?
[22:32] And the chair vote sign.
[22:33] Thank you very much.
[22:35] And that would leave the resolution of posing with the Jefferson Madge,
[22:38] as some regional lover and name change.
[22:41] Madam Chair, I'd like to make a motion to approve this resolution
[22:44] with a comment once we get to discussion.
[22:48] I'll second that.
[22:49] Okay.
[22:50] I have a motion and a second.
[22:54] Any discussion?
[22:55] Yes, I'd like to just make a statement.
[22:58] I received several phone calls from residents who are supportive of obviously this resolution.
[23:05] And I wanted to just echo my strong support for this.
[23:11] I believe many of our institutions in this nation are under attack by folks.
[23:16] And I don't think that we should be changing the name of our library at this point in time.
[23:24] So I'm very much in support of this resolution.
[23:26] I wanted to go on the record with that.
[23:30] Also, in support of this resolution, this came to me from Louisa County, the Chairman there,
[23:37] as soon as to put it on and some more and more within our worry with this resolution.
[23:43] Any other further discussion in the comments if you want to have a welcome?
[23:47] I agree with the resolution, but I also recognize James Monroe, but I agree with the resolution when you try to change names all the time, I said, what's a value in it?
[24:01] This will have a motion in a second on how we'll call vote Mr. Bowman.
[24:06] Ms. Huffley, aye. Mr. Layem.
[24:08] Mr. Herein. Aye.
[24:09] And the chair votes.
[24:10] Thank you very much.
[24:13] Aye.
[24:13] Next item will be consent agenda.
[24:18] Please be public hearing on the proposed secondary six year improvement plan for the physical year
[24:23] 2,23, 2,028, Mr. Shepherd, the CEO for that resident engineer from Vietnam, which you come
[24:32] boldly please. Thank you.
[24:41] Good evening Madam Chair, Members of the Board. I'm back tonight to go back over the
[24:46] seconder's six year plan in response to our workshop session that we had last month. Just
[24:52] as a reminder, the purpose of the Royal Rustic Program for the seconder's six year plan
[24:56] funding is to pay even
[25:00] Existing unpaid road, just to reestablish ditches and shoulders, but to leave trees vegetation and the
[25:07] role nature of the road intact as much as possible.
[25:11] Eligibility includes unpaid roads, already in the state secondary system, carrying no more than
[25:16] 1,500 vehicles per day with a minimum of 50, and then of course to be included as a priority
[25:22] in the secondary six year plan, which we're here to discuss tonight.
[25:25] Use for local traffic, or familiar with the features of the road, with minimal anticipated
[25:29] traffic growth, and we prefer at least 16 foot width, but 18 is always what is most preferred.
[25:40] So as a result of last, last month's meeting,
[25:49] I was asked to add Welsh Run Road Part 2
[25:51] to the end of our plan, so currently we have its Simmons Gap Road, fully funded in fiscal year
[25:58] 23 ice house road fully funded in 24 south river road fully funded in 25 Welsh run road part one, which was already on the plan
[26:08] Funded in fiscal year 26 and the last part of Welsh run road which we just added is not fully funded in our final year of the plan fiscal year 28
[26:18] There is about to complete of $104,000 for future years
[26:24] Any questions for me at this time?
[26:35] did you want to see any maps of the roads? I think Jim has put that together for us.
[26:43] Sure, sure.
[26:44] Sure, but yeah.
[26:50] Being a mountain is one that we're working on right now that is about to be under construction.
[26:58] And then on the map, I'm sorry.
[26:59] On the plane currently, this is the section of Simmons gap.
[27:02] It's a 1.2 mile section.
[27:07] We have Ice House Road, 0.34 mile section.
[27:12] South River Road, it's just over half of a mile.
[27:17] And then last but not least, is the entirety of Welsh one road split into two different
[27:21] sections.
[27:28] And that concludes my piece.
[27:29] So I guess I will, down in case there's any public comment.
[27:33] Any questions?
[27:34] I have a question.
[27:36] I have a question.
[27:36] I have a question.
[27:39] They did paint those lines the very next day, so Fredericksburg Road in 29.
[27:45] Yes, they did.
[27:45] and they've evident the mode yesterday, real close, but I'm, you know what, I imagine it's
[27:52] 70 miles now called, trial was just a bit old with 410 feet per second. So if those calls
[27:58] were running 70 miles now because no one does 60 when they're coming in the green cannon,
[28:03] I mean they're really moving and it's been like, I told you, 34 accidents, and it's 2,019.
[28:12] And my wife didn't even see the lines.
[28:15] I mean, they're both just wide, man, right there.
[28:18] But, you know, only white lines I've ever seen.
[28:20] I mean, I've seen lines and everything.
[28:23] With lines like that at the airport,
[28:25] but you not allow the cross until tasks
[28:27] as you clear for takeoff, things like that.
[28:31] So, I mean, they really don't help.
[28:34] Right. So, after the board meeting last week,
[28:37] or I'm sorry, last month, I followed up
[28:39] an email to the board and it had the Highway Safety Improvement Program plan that we implemented
[28:46] there at the intersection of 609 and 29 which is complete like you noted and then at the
[28:51] request of last month's meeting I also have asked one of our on-call consultants to do a traffic
[28:59] engineering study of the intersection to see if an R-cut is appropriate for the intersection.
[29:04] Now that's just the study portion. Once I have that information I can share it with you and then if you would like to proceed we'll have to determine how to fund the actual improvements for an
[29:15] cut. I also shared with you a little bit about what would be required to re-grade 29, which would
[29:22] take out the issue of the site distance, which is really what's causing the problem. That would
[29:28] until re-grading 29 and, like you mentioned last time, similar project I've been forky or canny
[29:35] fit hill that project was $3 million, not impossible, but obviously we would have to just
[29:42] discuss pros and cons and determined funding options. I appreciate the V.D. having
[29:48] the virtual meeting that they at this past week. I was on that. I enjoyed that.
[29:56] Boatize and all of those stuff around the balance.
[30:01] Thank you so much for taking care of the problem of 33 or the construction. That was a really painful day.
[30:09] I have cut that fix now.
[30:11] Thank you for letting us out.
[30:13] Any other comments or questions?
[30:16] The study for 609 and 29.
[30:21] You said you emailed the board.
[30:23] Do you email us directly?
[30:25] No, I did not.
[30:25] Okay, because I do not. I have that email. I actually looked for it today because something that I was going to ask for tonight, so I don't know can somebody get that to me, please whoever.
[30:38] I emailed Mark and Jim, but I can certainly
[30:44] If that would be easier, whichever is easiest for everybody, it's what we're trying to do.
[30:49] Can you use that and just to follow up?
[30:51] Because you said that that was something that we could plan to do later on,
[30:55] and if we wanted to, it's not affecting this right now.
[31:02] This is somewhat separate.
[31:04] If you do decide similar to how we put in the median turn line across from the connector road,
[31:09] That was secondary six-year plan money that was changed from an using an
[31:15] addendum to be dedicated to that project.
[31:18] It didn't affect your priorities for your on-page roads.
[31:21] So it was kind of outside of that and you may have the opportunity to do that with an
[31:24] archive.
[31:25] Obviously that's not going to be as expensive as re-grading 29.
[31:29] So it's probably a lot more doable in the short term.
[31:33] After you've had a chance and we've had a chance to review benefits, pros, cons, and
[31:36] click that.
[31:37] Great.
[31:37] Thank you.
[31:38] Can I just ask, what is your timeline on your engineering study to look at that?
[31:43] I mean, we're talking months or months?
[31:45] Yeah, yeah.
[31:46] I think that's likely, yep.
[31:48] Okay, thank you.
[31:51] Thank you.
[31:52] Thank you.
[31:53] Thank you.
[31:54] Thank you.
[31:55] Thank you.
[31:56] There was no one signed up for public comment Mr. Bill.
[31:59] Do we have anyone at home?
[32:02] We do have a session on the screens of anyone at home
[32:05] I want to address the second day to six years.
[32:08] Your plan, please raise your hand, and we'll give you a moment
[32:11] to follow through the instructions on the screen
[32:13] and raise your hand at the WCC.
[32:23] It does not appear, we have any papers at home.
[32:26] Thank you, sir.
[32:27] Mr. Chair, what do we need to have a motion on this to adopt it, Ossen?
[32:33] Yeah, I can't.
[32:34] Yes, sir.
[32:35] Yes, ma'am.
[32:36] Any further discussion before I ask for motion?
[32:42] I want to make a motion.
[32:42] I'll make a motion to approve the secondary six year improvement plan.
[32:46] Second, school years, 2023, the 20, 20, 20, 20, 20.
[32:50] Second.
[32:53] Mr. Bellon, Mr. Lamon, we have a motion to approve.
[32:57] We'll call that Mr. Heron.
[32:58] Hi. Mr. Lamon.
[33:00] This has a nice, Mr. Bellon.
[33:02] Hi.
[33:02] And the chair about time.
[33:04] Thank you very much.
[33:06] The next action item is approval of agreement
[33:08] between the Thomas Jefferson Planning District Commission
[33:11] Firefly and Green County.
[33:13] We've gone to the award of beta 2020 funding, Mr. Taylor, and now I am in Australia.
[33:19] Madam Chair, I was really a placeholder on the agenda.
[33:22] I'm thrilled to see David Blunt here, and I appreciate his work on this.
[33:28] I'm forward, please.
[33:30] Thank you.
[33:31] Thank you, Madam Chair.
[33:32] Members of the board, David Blunt, with Tom Jefferson Planning District, here to talk to you
[33:36] this evening about broadband.
[33:38] You always anxious to talk about that.
[33:40] As you know we got a early Christmas present I guess last December with about a $79 million grant from the Department of Housing and Community Development, the State to TJPDC for a 13 county regional broadband project, working with Firefly, fire broadband.
[34:01] And since that time we've been working very diligently to do everything we can to meet all the requirements that DHCD has to officially get the project.
[34:10] up and running. And what you have before you tonight in this agreement is one of those requirements.
[34:16] There's a agreement between T.J. PDC as the grantee with Firefly and with Green County.
[34:23] We are in the process of taking this to all of the other 12 jurisdictions that are involved in
[34:29] the project and getting them to sign off on the agreement this month. It basically outlines the various
[34:35] duties and responsibilities of the three entities, for TJPDC, that's managing the grant, providing
[34:42] for the fiscal responsibilities, working with the grant tour at the state level for
[34:48] firefly.
[34:49] It's pretty much about construction, fortunately, as well as documentation that we will need
[34:54] in managing the grant.
[34:55] And then for Green County, you will note that the agreement does.
[35:00] Does note your nearly $2.7 million in local match that you previously committed to the project, and then speaks to your responsibilities to keep records and pay invoices and generally support the project and help us and firefly to communicate with your community about the project.
[35:19] So I think it's a pretty simple agreement. It has had a lot of legal eyes on it, as well.
[35:26] especially when I acknowledge Admiral County Attorney's Office for their work on this, our
[35:31] legal counsel at TJPDC, as well as the legal counsel for Firefly, have also had a role in
[35:38] shaping what's before you tonight. So, as I said, I think it's ready to go and here to ask for
[35:44] your approval over this evening.
[35:50] I'm ready to take a motion.
[35:56] I'm moved to be approved to agree between Thomas Justin Plan of District Commission, Firefly, and Green County, regarding the awardee, fatty, 2020 funding.
[36:05] Okay.
[36:07] I have a motion by Mr. Heron and second by Mr. Lam to approve this resolution.
[36:12] We'll call that Mr. Bellman.
[36:15] Ms. Hefflin, aye.
[36:16] Mr. Lam.
[36:16] Mr. Harry.
[36:18] And the chair of the sign.
[36:19] Thank you very much.
[36:20] Thank you.
[36:21] Thank you.
[36:28] The next action item is a resolution to appropriate fiscal year 2023 budget for the Mr. Taylor and Ms. Morris.
[36:37] Welcome.
[36:37] Good evening.
[36:38] In your packet as a resolution to finalize an appropriate fiscal year budget in the amount of
[36:43] $177,168,187 dollars, and that just gives me the authorization to appropriate the funds
[36:52] to each one of the departments, including the schools and social services.
[36:58] Any questions?
[37:04] Ms. Morris, when we approved the budget last, or when it was approved by the majority vote last,
[37:11] It was 76 million to 82 to 50 that was in the resolution.
[37:18] Where did this extra 30 million come from?
[37:20] That amount is excluding the Interfund transfers that are the
[37:25] Interfunds between Social Services, the schools, and CSA.
[37:29] When we appropriate the budget, we have to appropriate the total,
[37:32] not including the subtraction of those Interfunds.
[37:39] I do, just because everyone knows where I stand on this
[37:43] And I've been bringing this up and I'm going to bring it up
[37:46] one last time before this goes through.
[37:50] But I've been continually looking at, you know,
[37:53] this is all stuff that's public knowledge,
[37:55] it's all on our finance page.
[38:00] We have an extreme increase in our revenue,
[38:04] this year, compared to previous revenue years.
[38:08] So, our
[38:12] local source, which is like local sources, personal property, real estate, that stuff, right?
[38:19] That increased by 14%.
[38:22] So, I have a very hard time thinking that we did not know about what was going to happen with this personal property tax.
[38:30] The previous years were starting in 2015, 5% 3% 5% 6% 4% 3% 5% and then 14.
[38:42] It does not make sense to me, and I think that is something that needs to be said.
[38:49] I also noticed that funds from the Commonwealth and from the Fed have decreased dramatically.
[38:56] I'm not sure why, so I'll just throw that out there.
[39:03] I don't understand that, but maybe you can explain,
[39:09] but I mean, the total difference that went
[39:12] into the general fund was 4.7 million last year, it was 1.6, then there was COVID, but I won't
[39:25] those, but it was 1.5, and 19, 1.5, and 18, 975, and 17, 1.2, and 16, I don't get it.
[39:39] And so the conversations that we've had about the personal property tax and not knowing,
[39:46] I just want to make the statement that I don't believe it makes sense.
[39:50] I feel like we knew we have plenty of documentation of various emails that were sent between all of us in the commissioner and
[40:00] Never changed. What he stated that night was the same thing he sent to us. I think it was March 28th. So I am just very upset about this. And I think that this is the right to hear this. So again, this is all public information. And if anyone wants a copy of it, because it is a like information, I'm willing to give it to him.
[40:27] So I don't know, if there's any discussion or comments from the Board that's great but there hasn't been so I don't know.
[40:34] Just a quick question.
[40:36] The Board voted five vote for the first of Bargit Tax Read that night.
[40:39] Can the conversation took place with you that you based the first of Bargit Tax Read any streams on a lower value?
[40:46] Does that make a mission a revenue?
[40:48] That's correct, right?
[40:48] That is the idea that was provided to me by the commissioner.
[40:50] That's correct.
[40:52] and that's fine, but what about all the other revenue? Like for example, I know our local
[40:57] fines, like court fines and stuff like that. That went up almost a million dollars. Oh and I'm so
[41:04] glad that you spoke because I forgot to say something very important. I think the, you know, one
[41:09] of the biggest reasons I'm so upset about this is because this is like a fluke. The personal property
[41:16] tax is a flip. This is a flip here. The excess in the core it fees and finds. That is also
[41:24] a flip. We heard from the commonwealth attorney that they were taking on like triple the amount
[41:30] of cases this year because of COVID last year. So we've spent money that I'm worried we will not
[41:37] have next year and they're being it's being spent on things like salaries, employees, things that we
[41:44] have to continue funding. So, I don't know,
[41:52] is a reduction in the state and federal because
[41:55] it composite index? It depends on the various items that the state and the federal government
[42:01] fund us. For example, sometimes in the past the Comfort will cut the funding so that can be one
[42:06] of the reasons for the reduction in funding. It just depends on the programs themselves. For
[42:11] example, in prior years it was reduced funding for a transit. It can be reduced funding for some
[42:15] the grants that are approved, it varies from year to year.
[42:18] It's like what fit the percent is based on the medium income, like Rutgersville, I know
[42:24] the medium income is higher than West Rutgersville.
[42:30] I know what fit the percent and then there's three areas that they look at in the composite
[42:38] index.
[42:39] That's regarding the school funding on the county side is just based on whatever the programs
[42:44] are the state and the federal government fund for us.
[42:47] And those can be increased or reduced depending upon the programs.
[42:50] For example, the federal funding is the payment and lieu of taxes, which speaks to the federal
[42:56] land and the state, and I have county from the state and federal governments, so that can change
[43:00] from a year to a year.
[43:01] So they all fluctuate.
[43:02] It just depends on the programs.
[43:04] Well, I mean, and like Mrs. Hefflin will say in about the personal property, the NADA releases
[43:12] is that the first of January to each of you.
[43:18] We have the questions of the comments.
[43:23] Is there anyone signed up to speak on this?
[43:27] I'm not sure this is the public hearing.
[43:28] I'm not sure.
[43:29] We get the public hearing.
[43:38] I'll make a motion to approve a resolution to appropriate the fiscal year 2023 budget as a letter.
[43:45] I'll second that.
[43:46] You have a motion by Mr. Bowman and a second by Mr. Herring through.
[43:51] Except this resolution, both of it, Mr. Bowman.
[43:54] All right.
[43:54] Ms. Heffland.
[43:56] Nags.
[43:56] Excuse me, Mr. Lam.
[43:58] Nags.
[43:59] Mr. Herring.
[44:00] All right.
[44:00] In the chair of our side.
[44:02] Thank you very much.
[44:06] Next item is John M.O.U.
[44:09] Mr. Taylor and Mr. Rick and John.
[44:13] It's been a chair of the first one I want to thank.
[44:19] John Tracker, Ted Reak, and Kenny Turner, Ms. Kim, for working together with us on the
[44:28] memorandum of understanding with John.
[44:31] And lots of input from Supervisor Bowman, we have come to mutually acceptable language for memorandum
[44:45] understanding with John and Green County concerning steps that John will be taking in the next six months on the development of servicing.
[45:00] Green County MOU has been finalized and it is before you, for approval, the changes have been reviewed by Mr.
[45:09] Rick, as well, and there are no outstanding issues. Thank you very much.
[45:18] This is a question.
[45:22] Any questions from the Mr. title on Mr. Rick?
[45:26] No, I'm Chair, I'm going to answer one question from Mr. Reak.
[45:31] Are you going to wrap the buses that say Green County transit with John and logo and all that?
[45:39] Yes.
[45:40] Yes.
[45:41] Okay.
[45:41] The other thing that I just wanted to mention for everyone to know,
[45:46] are going to add at the bottom of our website a link that will go to John to Green County
[45:54] specifically for the scheduling. So that's going to be coming to the website. So it's easy
[46:00] for citizens to get on there and it's all.
[46:04] Madam Chair, if I could make one other comment. As liaison to the John Board, I attended last
[46:12] last week, I guess it was, and their community outreach person provided me with business
[46:21] cards with the phone number to contact John and make a reservation as well as the website.
[46:30] And many of those cards are out on the desk right here at the county building.
[46:37] I've also placed them at the Standardsville Post Office, Great Value, Standardsville Station,
[46:45] the Longerbat and Standardsville, Feeding Green, the Library and Java, the Sheriff's Office,
[46:52] Social Services, and in the next several days, they'll be at the Council of the Attorney's
[46:57] Office and at the Health Department.
[46:59] So I just wanted to make the community aware that if you need to reach a job, there's
[47:03] the way to do that, that those cards are available, and I will continue to distribute those throughout
[47:09] the county. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bellman.
[47:14] Any other comments?
[47:17] That's that. I'll make a answer.
[47:18] After our last days before, let's say to again, after our initial conversations, I've heard more
[47:24] positive comments than negative.
[47:27] So I appreciate that. I appreciate all those involved and getting us to this point tonight. Thank you.
[47:32] Well, that I'll make a motion to prove the MOU as submitted with joint.
[47:37] How's that?
[47:38] All right.
[47:39] We have a motion by Mr. Bowlin, a second by Mr. Herring to approve the MOU as presented.
[47:44] Roll call vote.
[47:45] Mr. Herring?
[47:46] Aye.
[47:46] Mr. Lam.
[47:47] Ms. Haffland?
[47:49] Mr. Bowlin?
[47:49] Aye.
[47:50] And the chair votes aye.
[47:51] Thank you very much.
[47:52] And Madam Chair, if we could, Mr. Rate, so among the various commitments that John is making
[48:00] and that we very much appreciate with MOU is a commitment and energy concerning promotion of
[48:09] joint services.
[48:10] And it's really because shared a video with us that we would like to share and would also
[48:18] like to know from him that it would be appropriate for us to post on social media and make
[48:23] it available through our website as well.
[48:33] which I hope we can play here for
[48:50] a long time.
[48:51] Yeah.
[48:53] All right, it's blood.
[48:56] They're gonna fix it.
[49:20] I actually...
[49:21] Oh,
[49:24] this may not work as the...
[49:26] How are we gonna do it?
[49:28] Okay.
[49:30] Hold on.
[49:30] Let me see if I can find it on my phone.
[49:35] There we don't see it.
[49:52] Let's do it without a sound.
[49:53] But that's not the real question.
[49:56] Yeah, I can design perfect if you want to.
[49:58] That's good.
[50:00] Mr. Reed, what's the capacity of one of those? 16.
[50:06] 16, thank you.
[50:12] Thank you.
[50:12] Sorry, I'm so cold.
[50:13] You need to do what you're in a local TV for the next few weeks.
[50:18] So, you might catch it the only two.
[50:25] I think, because of the combination with Zoom,
[50:29] it either echoes in the room and play on the computer.
[50:31] I didn't think about that earlier.
[50:32] Please really, well, I'm at that end of my death.
[50:34] We're only going to go now.
[50:35] I
[50:40] think the bottom line is that you're attempting to outreach and this is the media that you're submitting.
[50:48] We're doing some image building campaign, this is a commercial, you know, I'm
[50:52] joking.
[50:53] Can you guys see, uh, uh, uh, introduce this?
[50:58] Sure.
[50:59] You've seen us around.
[51:00] But have we been formally introduced since 1975.
[51:05] John's professional operators have offered compassionate and inclusive
[51:08] transportation for everyone, and in the past two years.
[51:12] We have delivered essential workers to their jobs.
[51:15] take in patients the critical health care appointments, shuttle voters to the homes, and health
[51:21] use-day connected. We are grounded in service to our community. Where can John take you?
[51:30] Hopefully to broadband.
[51:35] Give Mr. Blanca a ride.
[51:40] I mean, I just make one statement for sure. I don't know if you're going to stay, Mr.
[51:45] for the presentation under 10B, but the regional transit vision plan is going to be discussed
[51:53] tonight, and TJPDC, people will be presenting that. I certainly hope long-term
[52:01] jot becomes part of that regional system, because I think long-term, at least my image
[52:10] of a strategic position hearing green is that it would benefit all of our residents having
[52:19] the capability of going, basically, throughout Central Virginia, very quickly on a transit
[52:25] system with small and large hubs of those kind of things.
[52:30] So I look very much to the presentation and hopefully, John, we'll be part of that down the
[52:36] road.
[52:36] Thank you.
[52:38] Any other comments, suggestions?
[52:44] I will be a request from B.A. for a waiver of the noise ordinance.
[52:49] Mark 10, I can't wait for this.
[52:51] Yes, Madam Chair, board members.
[52:54] You received the correspondence from the Commonwealth DOT and that is loaded to your agenda.
[53:04] An issue, it's requesting a waiver from the county noise
[53:11] ordinance in connection with the proceeding of the 29 and 33 intersection improvements.
[53:20] Vito is, first of all, Vito has taken outstanding steps since the beginning of the project
[53:28] to do their very utmost to be a good neighbor and to mitigate noise to the extent possible
[53:35] with their project, they had a stage, at least in which they were having a de-water or removed
[53:42] the wall pump of water out of a pond on a continuous basis in order to move their project
[53:49] forward.
[53:49] So they had a pump running day and night that was energized by a generator and that gave
[53:58] rise to a noise concern from a neighbor, my understanding is that the investigation of that
[54:05] noise complaint yielded their revelation that they were not in violation of the noise
[54:13] ordinance based on decibel measure at the property line or however the enforcement mechanism
[54:21] was implemented by the sheriff, and on top of that, the B.R. team did all that they could
[54:31] to mitigate the noise and event using the quietest generator, they had available, etc.
[54:39] What they've expressed to us is that they commonly find that either in the ordinance
[54:50] language in the localities or otherwise state and sometimes also local construction activities.
[55:00] Our exempted from the noise ordinance, or receive a waiver from enforcement and noise ordinance, in order to be proceed, able to proceed with public work that is being done for the public benefit at taxpayer expense, as efficiently as possible.
[55:16] And the quid pro quo for that is that they commit, as they have in the communication that they sent to us, that they will do the best they can to mitigate noise along the way.
[55:28] What they hope to avoid is the loss of time and the disruption to progress on the project by having to interact with enforcement on the noise ordinance on a case by case basis.
[55:46] They can commit to do their best.
[55:48] They're spending public money to do a public project for our communities that we don't want to have run over time or over budget.
[55:56] And they would like some consideration from us on this waiver request in relation to the noise
[56:05] ordinance and ask that the enforcement be suspended as to their project while they're doing
[56:13] their best to do this project for us.
[56:16] I have a question.
[56:17] Then did this complaint come in after the hasn't waste they had three
[56:24] hazmat
[56:25] engines down I don't know well it was a spiel or what but they all might not
[56:33] I know that on that before it's time goes Mr. Liam
[56:38] I thought maybe I was just about the regular generator
[56:41] So that generator to deep water, the palm, the heat, the storm water, and it was continuing
[56:48] to sound 24 hours a day, and there was some concern about that, but it was well below
[56:53] the minimum DB that it's even the night time DB is probably the best of it.
[57:01] I was looking at the map, you know, in the pond down there, I thought they had the re-wrapped
[57:11] the traffic while they were there, all like, I thought you knew that.
[57:19] Do they say how long this would go on?
[57:22] Jim, do you know how long the calendar, I don't know.
[57:24] The project is almost a full year.
[57:27] I don't know how long that the most intensive construction will be.
[57:33] They did say that it's not feasible to do it during the day time,
[57:37] because it would be a several miles back up every morning.
[57:41] So it's nine time work for, or doesn't get approved.
[57:50] Any other questions?
[57:52] comments?
[57:57] I'm Chair.
[57:59] Because the board also consider, in the current ordinance, there are some exemptions for daytime noise.
[58:06] The board consider adding an exemption for daytime nighttime noise, as Mr. Taylor said, for public works.
[58:13] The benefit of the public, as an ordinance amendment because there is technically no mechanism for waiver in the ordinance right now.
[58:24] And that, as Mr. Taylor has pointed out, this is filled with,
[58:29] but just to make it cleaner, but if the board doesn't want to do that, that's something like that.
[58:35] So you're saying, you suggest we make an amendment to the current ordinance, and what would
[58:40] you bourgeois be in an amendment?
[58:43] Well, you currently have an exemption section, but it's specifically for daytime.
[58:49] So we could have a separate section, basically, for daytime night time, you know, construction
[58:55] public work.
[58:58] You can certainly phrase it however Mr. Taylor and Boardfills is most appropriate to make
[59:02] is narrow to this situation as possible.
[59:07] I don't know if there will be other nighttime construction projects in the future.
[59:14] Comments for board members.
[59:16] Can we skip?
[59:18] Would this be able to be very young tonight?
[59:22] That's what the point is going to come back with it.
[59:24] You have to add about education.
[59:26] And that would be a part of the carries that correct.
[59:28] Yes sir.
[59:29] And so would it come back to next meeting for another,
[59:30] how time-sensitive is this particular?
[59:33] That's in that part of I think the energy behind beatouts requests is that they need this relief.
[59:39] That's the core we certainly make of. I'm sorry.
[59:43] Yeah, I'm going to say can't we give them a waiver and then work on the overall.
[59:48] I take our time.
[59:49] Yeah.
[59:51] I'll make a motion that we authorize or allow the data to operate there.
[1:00:00] Public Works operation there at 29th or 33th as appropriate.
[1:00:04] I also have to spend the noise over and over for them for this project.
[1:00:08] I'll second that.
[1:00:10] We have a motion.
[1:00:11] Mr. Bellman, a second.
[1:00:12] Mr. Hearing, roll call, a bit, Mr. Bellman.
[1:00:15] Aye.
[1:00:15] Ms. Halfland, aye.
[1:00:17] Ms. Lam.
[1:00:18] Mr. Hearing.
[1:00:19] In the chair of the council.
[1:00:20] Thank you very much.
[1:00:21] Madam Chair.
[1:00:22] Yes.
[1:00:22] And I think, and I'll just second with, I think, the several is getting that.
[1:00:28] I think we ought to put a waiver clause if you will in our ordinance that makes a statement similar to that that we authorize.
[1:00:39] The Board can authorize suspension or a waiver with it entails a public works project that is important to the county and the citizens.
[1:00:49] I
[1:00:52] want to refer it to be a way of, or instead of a blanket, do whatever you want.
[1:00:58] Yeah, no, it needs to be a way of absence.
[1:01:02] The problem with that?
[1:01:04] With the cross?
[1:01:04] And then bring that back.
[1:01:06] And have the hearings and you go through the process.
[1:01:08] Thank you.
[1:01:11] All right, next will be our presentation.
[1:01:14] We have a hazard mitigation plan of date.
[1:01:17] We have a backstuff plan.
[1:01:19] We're going to time this down with the planning for district commission.
[1:01:22] Please come forward.
[1:01:26] Welcome.
[1:01:26] Thank you. Thank you, Mount Chair and members of the board. My name is Ian Baxter. I'm a planner at the Thomas Jefferson Planning District Mission.
[1:01:32] Tonight, I'm here to talk to you about our current hazard mitigation plan update that's going on for the 2023 edition of the plan.
[1:01:40] So I'm going to go over some high level details about the plan and then answer any questions you'll have and kind of map out a roadmap of where this will be going in the next 69 months.
[1:01:50] So the major really the main purpose of the natural hazard mitigation plan is to prepare for natural disasters before they occur.
[1:01:56] So we're looking to reduce loss of life, property damage and disruption of commerce and economic
[1:02:02] activity, but also there's an incentive for localities to have one of these adopted
[1:02:07] FEMA requires natural hazard mitigation plans as condition for eligibility of a certain
[1:02:12] mitigation grant program funds and those are primarily disaster response mitigation funds.
[1:02:18] So we work with FEMA and VDEM to conduct this plan update every five years.
[1:02:24] So currently right now, Green County has an adopted 2018 has a mitigation plan, and so this is the update on that plan.
[1:02:31] And the state itself has their own hazard mitigation plan that fulfills sort of the same criteria and conditions for FEMA.
[1:02:39] Within the plan, there are six sections that won't go through each in too much detail.
[1:02:43] I probably will emphasize three and four as what I'll be talking about most this evening.
[1:02:48] But generally speaking, the plan outlines a details about the community.
[1:02:53] Again, we're doing this on behalf of our planning district.
[1:02:56] So the six localities that comprise the GJPDC within the community profile.
[1:03:01] There's information about housing, transportation, economic characteristics, and geographic,
[1:03:07] topographic information that would be relevant to national hazard discussion.
[1:03:12] There's also a hazard identification and analysis section.
[1:03:16] I'll show you more details about that in a moment.
[1:03:17] But it's essentially a ranking of the relative risk that natural hazards pose in our region and that's informed by a working group that we have that the TJPDC
[1:03:28] Put together at the beginning of this plan update in 2021, which is made up of members of each staff from each locality in the planning district, as well as other stakeholders and state experts. And so it's primarily emergency management staff and planning staff from each of the counties in the city.
[1:03:44] And so they help determine that relative ranking.
[1:03:48] And I'll show you some of the data actually included in your package.
[1:03:51] Some examples of some of the data that that group used to make that determination.
[1:03:56] Following that, there's a vulnerability in capabilities assessment,
[1:04:00] so essentially an analysis of the impact that natural hazards
[1:04:02] can have not only on citizens of the planning district,
[1:04:06] but also on economic activity.
[1:04:08] And we use a few pieces of software to run various hazards scenarios
[1:04:13] to basically get an idea of how bad a natural hazard would be under current conditions.
[1:04:18] So how much, you know, loss of life and estimate economic damages.
[1:04:22] A capabilities assessment is a brief survey of each localities capacity to respond
[1:04:27] to these natural hazards, and then the mitigation strategy section, each locality that adopts
[1:04:32] the plan, basically produces a list of mitigation action items, which are essentially aspirations
[1:04:38] are the next five years of sort of how they will engage with being proactive about natural
[1:04:44] hazard. So there's a variety of different strategies in there and I'll talk a little bit
[1:04:49] about what each of those action items looks like but again those were provided to me by
[1:04:53] locality staff. So Green County staff updated the 2018 plan action items and generated new ones.
[1:05:00] For the 2023 plan. And this is just a brief summary of the timeline I was talking a little bit about earlier.
[1:05:08] We are currently in the midst of the public comment on the draft plan, so it's available for public comment on the TJPDC website.
[1:05:13] I'd be happy to reset that over that information, but that'll be up for public comment until June 30th.
[1:05:20] But as you can see, we've had a few instances in an opportunity for public engagement.
[1:05:24] and we had a public survey that got almost 250 responses from residents all across the
[1:05:28] planning district and all six of our localities as well as a public meeting in early February.
[1:05:33] But we've primarily been working with LAPCs across the region and emergency management and
[1:05:39] planning staff from mutual localities. And so the plan is in the summer after the public
[1:05:43] common period ends, submits a VDEM and then FEMA and then come back to you all for formal adoption,
[1:05:48] which I'll speak to you to speak about in a moment. So this is the high road that I was describing.
[1:05:53] essentially, it's informed by data on events such as frequency, duration, and severity.
[1:05:59] And we use a risk matrix that's developed, that is developed by Kaiser Permanente.
[1:06:04] This is a little hard to see on this screen, but it's included in your packet.
[1:06:07] Essentially the process for this was each locality was sent one of these matrices.
[1:06:12] They filled it out, and I compiled those scores into one region-wide high run.
[1:06:18] So what you'll be able to see in the appendix of the plan, the draft plan is each of
[1:06:22] emissions from each of the localities. Obviously there's some variation depending on topographic
[1:06:27] and geographic features of each of the localities, for example, flooding might be a high
[1:06:31] risk in one and then wildfire. But I will say that this higher ranking with the exception
[1:06:36] of the communicable disease section, which was added to the plan after the COVID-19 pandemic
[1:06:41] by FEMA, the order of these hazards in change. The scores slightly varied, but we're looking
[1:06:48] primarily at hurricanes, high winds and wind storms, flooding, and winter storms, and whether
[1:06:52] as the top three relative risk hazards in our planning district.
[1:07:00] And I'm not going to go, especially not, because I can barely even see any of this, but
[1:07:04] a lot.
[1:07:05] This data is included in your packet.
[1:07:06] And this is just a brief overview and sample of the type of data that we use to inform
[1:07:10] the Hyrah.
[1:07:11] You'll notice a lot of it is weather data, frequency, economic damage, a lot of maps that document,
[1:07:18] For example, the amount of dams in the region, the assessment made on those by DCR about how high risk they are, maps of, let me see, there's a better example of this.
[1:07:30] Yeah, there's a lot of information that we were able to get from the Virginia Department of Health and Blue Rich Health District for the communicable disease and pandemic chapter, considering that was a new feature of the plan.
[1:07:40] But again, I want to, that section also is not just about the, about COVID-19, it covers
[1:07:46] communicable diseases more generally.
[1:07:49] And so I'm just going to get to the side that has the data because I can't read that.
[1:07:54] So there's a real variety of the sources that we use to inform this, and you'll notice
[1:07:58] that's primarily a mix of federal and state resources, but we were corresponding pretty closely
[1:08:04] with some folks at, for example, Department of Forestry, DCR, the Virginia Department
[1:08:09] energy and be not to make sure that we had as as recent data as we possibly could.
[1:08:15] It doesn't hurt that UVA is also in the planning district and they have a lot of great
[1:08:18] resources that we're able to utilize, but you know your typical national federal data sources
[1:08:23] like the National Weather Service, N-O-A, that kind of thing, that was what was made available
[1:08:27] to the working group to make that determination. Again this is the hazard vulnerability assessment.
[1:08:33] So if the high-rise, the relative risk pose, this is essentially how damaging those
[1:08:37] relative risks will be for the planning district.
[1:08:40] And what I was sort of referring to earlier is some of the software that we have access
[1:08:44] to through FEMA, as a piece of software called Hazus, which is a proprietary software that
[1:08:49] FEMA maintains.
[1:08:50] And it's able to produce a lot of really cool and easy to read maps about potential damages
[1:08:56] from natural hazard.
[1:08:57] So what's before you now is basically a model based on Hurricane Fran, which came through
[1:09:03] in 1996, or came near the planning district in 1996, which is also the equivalent
[1:09:07] of a 200-year event, which is a phrase basically means that this severity would happen once
[1:09:13] in every two years, or 200 years, approximately, and so you'll notice this is an easy way
[1:09:19] if really, you know, quickly determining where the academic damages from that storm were,
[1:09:23] and they were, in this case, primarily, in the eastern and south eastern part of the eastern.
[1:09:28] And again, this piece of software can be used to determine flood risk or flood vulnerability.
[1:09:33] So you'll notice this is the town of Scottsville in Southern Alborr County on the left.
[1:09:39] The colors indicate the amount of estimated economic damage associated with 100 year flood event.
[1:09:45] And then on the right, a flood depth.
[1:09:47] So from the basin of the river to where the flood would crest within that town.
[1:09:54] I'm not even going to, this is a wildfire map.
[1:09:56] It looks a lot better in the report and we break this down for each, but basically.
[1:10:00] This is from the sudden group of foursters, and it's essentially a burn probability for the planning district.
[1:10:06] And you'll notice that most of that actually is within green and outmoral.
[1:10:11] And so the last thing I'll say is the mitigation action item, so included in your packet are the proposed 2023 actions for green county.
[1:10:20] Again, these are aspirational, you know, they're not obviously tied to any ordinance, but this is sort of what county staff estimated, or at least would want to get accomplished.
[1:10:29] over the next five years. So the table you can see it refers to specific hazard. It has an estimated
[1:10:36] cost, funding method, implementations schedule, and the county staff provides priority. So
[1:10:42] high-medium or low priority. And then I will leave you sort of with the next steps. Like I said earlier,
[1:10:48] the draft plan is currently up for public comment until the 30th of this month. After that, we'll be
[1:10:53] submitting it to Vietnam and FEMA. Both of those have month or month and a half review periods.
[1:10:58] So the next, you know, five, six months of this
[1:11:02] is sort of just going to be waiting to hear back
[1:11:03] from the state and federal agencies.
[1:11:06] But then we'll be coming before you in 2023
[1:11:08] in the early part of 2023 to ask for a formal adoption
[1:11:12] through Norton.
[1:11:14] So we're going around to all of the planning,
[1:11:16] or sorry, all of the board supervisors, town councils,
[1:11:19] and city councils to present on the plan
[1:11:22] sort of give you an idea of what we've been doing,
[1:11:24] didn't want to just show up with something
[1:11:26] for you all to adopt in six months.
[1:11:27] but that is all I have and I would be happy to answer any questions.
[1:11:32] But don't you feel like, well, in 1969,
[1:11:36] I had a flood up in Nelson County.
[1:11:38] I was a little strange.
[1:11:40] I mean, it's odd that just that,
[1:11:44] it's like 30 some inches of rain.
[1:11:47] And then, but today with electronics,
[1:11:50] like you said, you just said something about the national weather alert,
[1:11:54] I get that on my phone all the time.
[1:11:56] You say these people's lives and you know, but it's amazing.
[1:12:02] Yeah, I will say a considerable amount of localities part of their mitigation action items
[1:12:07] is improving emergency emergency communication, so making sure that people have reliable, even
[1:12:13] people without cell phones have reliable access to information, because you're angry, it definitely
[1:12:16] can save many things.
[1:12:17] Many things.
[1:12:18] A lot of things.
[1:12:19] Madam Chair.
[1:12:20] Yes.
[1:12:20] Quick question, how does this, if at all, interface with FEMA's community resilience program?
[1:12:30] I don't know, I don't know the exact answer that question to be honest.
[1:12:34] I'd be happy to look into it.
[1:12:35] I imagine that they have similarities and they probably complement one another, but I don't
[1:12:38] know off the top of my head the answer to that.
[1:12:40] I think the resiliency program is trying to make communities more resilient to natural disasters,
[1:12:48] and I would think that there would be a link there.
[1:12:49] So if you would just take a look at that in terms of what they what they talk about terms of resilience
[1:12:55] Yeah, definitely. I think that this sort of serves as a base document for all of the firm
[1:12:59] So you sort of establish the natural hazards and then you can move up to resiliency
[1:13:03] You know adaptation measures that kind of thing. Could I be able to look at that because I think that this is a great base document and deals with how do you
[1:13:18] community because resilient when something doesn't fact happen.
[1:13:24] Yeah.
[1:13:24] The questions comments.
[1:13:26] Thanks a lot.
[1:13:29] Thank you very much.
[1:13:29] Thank you all.
[1:13:30] Thank you.
[1:13:32] Thank you.
[1:13:33] Thank you.
[1:13:36] Okay.
[1:13:36] Next presentation is the original transit vision plant update.
[1:13:41] We're still in the center of the town.
[1:13:42] Thomas Jefferson planning district permission.
[1:13:46] He's gone for a
[1:13:50] long time.
[1:13:53] Hi.
[1:13:57] Thank you for allowing me time on your agenda.
[1:13:59] of this evening, it's a pleasure to be here before you, this is my first time.
[1:14:06] And as you heard, I'm listening to Shannon, I'm with the Thomas Jefferson Planning District
[1:14:10] Commission.
[1:14:11] I'm going to talk about the regional transit vision plan.
[1:14:15] Do I have a presentation?
[1:14:16] We do.
[1:14:17] And you should be able to talk to the other person.
[1:14:20] Awesome.
[1:14:20] Thank you.
[1:14:28] I'm going to go over a little bit of background about the project and talk with you.
[1:14:36] about the planet itself, the statement and goals that we've come up with, their drafts.
[1:14:43] So we're here today to review them with the community.
[1:14:46] We're going to talk about the vision concepts, which is the network and the services that we envision for the future for this region.
[1:14:54] And then we'll talk about the engagement strategy that we're embarking upon now.
[1:14:59] and
[1:15:00] And then we'll have questions and answers. So, just a little bit of background, Albumarl County and the City of Charlottesville asked the TJPDC to develop a regional transit vision plan.
[1:15:12] We applied for a grant from the Department of Rail and Public Transportation and received funding to hire consultants to create a vision plan for the entire region.
[1:15:23] Album Royal County in the City of Charlottesville were kind enough to support the plan with 50% match funding.
[1:15:32] During the public involvement period, when we first started,
[1:15:38] the rural counties asked to be involved and they wanted more involvement with the plan itself,
[1:15:44] so that's why we're here today talking with you and we've been communicating with staff as well throughout the process.
[1:15:57] I put a lot of slides in your package because I wanted to make sure that you had everything
[1:16:04] that we had.
[1:16:06] I'm not going to go through everything in depth, but if you do have a question or you want
[1:16:10] to cover something more fully, I'm happy to pause and go over that with you.
[1:16:16] So just to go over the plan, it started in the summer of 2021 with assessing the situation,
[1:16:26] and the consultants looked at my eyes aren't as great as they used to be.
[1:16:32] So they looked at the existing systems.
[1:16:34] They looked at the land use planning and the transit market potential for the entire region
[1:16:42] and kind of assessed where it would be a good place for transit to be.
[1:16:47] They also identified they worked with the public and identified goals and visions for the region
[1:16:51] plan and kind of priorities of what this community wants to see for a vision plan for
[1:16:57] transit and the they solicited community input and engage the stakeholders. We had a public
[1:17:05] meeting, a stakeholder meeting, a survey, and many conversations with stakeholders as well.
[1:17:13] And so right now we're at the Green Circle which is developed and evaluate. So the consultants
[1:17:20] developed a kind of draft vision plan and right now we're engaging the public and stakeholders
[1:17:26] and all of you in talking about what they see for the vision and the network and then they'll
[1:17:35] make changes based on those recommendations from the community and have a recommendation for you
[1:17:41] in August.
[1:17:45] I want to kind of give a big picture of these studies and where we plan to go
[1:17:52] with the community. So I don't know if any of you have heard about the transit governance
[1:17:58] study has anybody heard about that. So the vision plan is the first step and it'll
[1:18:07] kind of create like what we would like to see in our community for public transportation.
[1:18:13] And then the second step is a governance study and that would tell us how we could afford to pay
[1:18:18] it and that would also tell us if we do bring in more revenue how we would decide on how to
[1:18:26] spend that revenue as a community and evaluate the effectiveness of that as a community
[1:18:32] as a region. So right now we're just coming to you kind of with the vision of what we could have
[1:18:40] for a transit network for the region and then next we applied for a DRPT grant and we just received
[1:18:47] word that we are funded to conduct a governance study after the vision plan which was start
[1:18:54] hopefully in July.
[1:19:01] So that's kind of that and I'll talk a little bit more about how we plan
[1:19:05] on funding these services in this presentation as well. So the vision statement that the consultants
[1:19:13] came up with, there were three main themes that we heard from the community. Equity was the first
[1:19:19] one expanding opportunities for all residents and the plan represents the needs of both urban
[1:19:26] and rural communities. I was really pleased we all were really pleased to hear that the rural
[1:19:31] communities were engaged in this and wanted to be more involved in the vision plan.
[1:19:38] Multimodality was the second goal or theme that we heard from the community, and it was
[1:19:44] to reduce reliance on automobiles. And the third theme that emerged was climate change, and that
[1:19:52] to help protect the environment.
[1:19:58] So, um...
[1:20:00] The consultants and TJPDC staff conducted a three-day workshop with the Transit providers, John, Kat, and UTS.
[1:20:10] We've been working with them all along throughout the plan.
[1:20:14] And we came up with a two proposals, kind of, and we called them a network, but it's basically bus routes.
[1:20:24] And so the first vision or network is a constrained vision, and that's where we looked at and we talked with our advisory committee, the regional transit partnership, and came up with a budget.
[1:20:39] And what we did was we looked at similar kind of strategies that other communities use to provide these types of services.
[1:20:49] and we looked at the Central Virginia Transportation Authority's funding plan and we
[1:20:57] compared that to our region and came up with a budget of about $26 million in regional
[1:21:03] funding for transit. So if we were able to enact something similar to what Central
[1:21:09] Virginia Transportation Authority is doing in our community, we would be able to
[1:21:13] in about that much money. And that's what we based our constrained vision on the first network.
[1:21:22] The second network that we kind of proposed and came up with was an unconstrained vision,
[1:21:27] and that's where we wanted to be innovative and forward thinking and just kind of, you know,
[1:21:33] the budget is no limit. So we also came up with that. So with these plans,
[1:21:42] This is just kind of a demonstration of the amount of service that we could increase if we were able to kind of,
[1:21:51] if the governance study is successful and we were able to bring in more money for transit.
[1:21:56] So the first group is the baseline.
[1:22:01] And this is what the met what we're measuring here is the number of service hours.
[1:22:06] is like the useful hours that a transit vehicle is on the road and that's typically what
[1:22:11] transit agencies use to measure the effectiveness of the service.
[1:22:17] So the first amount is about $100,000 a year, 100, sorry, 100,000 hours a year of services.
[1:22:25] If we enacted the constrained vision, we would be able to have about 125, we would increase
[1:22:33] to 125%, and then if we had the ultimate unconstrained vision, it would increase 422%, so we're
[1:22:45] really looking at increasing some transit services.
[1:22:53] I'm going to skip this. This is kind
[1:22:55] of, unless you guys speak up, kind of a definition of different types of transit services,
[1:23:04] And I'm excited to show you the maps.
[1:23:09] So this here is the first map is the baseline.
[1:23:20] That's this is what we currently have for services.
[1:23:24] So we have some John had some connect services out
[1:23:28] to the rural counties through their commuter service.
[1:23:32] And then they have, most of the counties have a circulator service where you are able to
[1:23:38] call a couple days ahead of time and get rides within the counties.
[1:23:45] And this is the map of the constrained version so that would increase frequencies on some
[1:23:54] of the routes.
[1:23:55] Route 7 would operate every 20 minutes, route 2, A, B and 4 would operate every 30 minutes and route 2, A and B would combine and provide service every 15 minutes.
[1:24:08] So we're increasing the availability. The big thing with this is that it would, instead of doing service five days a week, it would give service seven days a week and it would be from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m.
[1:24:25] which is expanding the amount of services,
[1:24:30] like the number of hours that we would have.
[1:24:34] So here's another way to look at it.
[1:24:36] This is the existing circulator services,
[1:24:39] and you can see the orange is green county.
[1:24:42] So they have services from 835 pm Monday through Friday.
[1:24:49] And then, with the constrained version, you would have services all the way through, actually, they do have it on.
[1:25:00] Sunday as well. From 7 to 8 p.m. I'm just kind of showing in several different ways the maps and charts
[1:25:15] of how the service would be expanded. So this is the unconstrained version. And again, we have
[1:25:21] the existing network currently, and then the proposed
[1:25:27] unconstrained version, which would have a fixed route
[1:25:31] running out to Rucker still every 60 minutes,
[1:25:38] Monday through Saturday.
[1:25:43] And then it would also, for the other rural counties,
[1:25:46] there are those fixed routes too.
[1:25:47] And they're all every 60 minutes, seven days a week.
[1:25:56] So for Green County, this all-day fixed route service from Rutgersville to Charlottesville
[1:26:03] would add services to 3% of residents, and it would also reach 11% more jobs in the county.
[1:26:12] It's not a lot, but it is a start, it's a beginning.
[1:26:16] And then we would also have improved
[1:26:19] Drought Circulator Services, expanding the hours
[1:26:22] to 13 hours a day and seven days a week.
[1:26:31] And then what we're doing right now is engaging the community.
[1:26:36] So this is the second phase of our engagement strategy.
[1:26:41] We are, our goals for it is to confirm the vision
[1:26:45] and the goals that I listed earlier.
[1:26:48] And then share the networks with the community and gather feedback on if they think these services are good enough.
[1:26:56] If they would like more, if there's something different that they'd like to see.
[1:27:00] We're presenting to all of the local elected bodies in our region.
[1:27:06] We launched a survey on June 9th, and I hope everybody takes the survey and shares it with their friends.
[1:27:12] I have some flyers here, and I'm sure you may have seen the flyers already.
[1:27:16] they've kind of been out, we're updating the project website so we have quite a bit on the
[1:27:23] project website with these networks and maps and charts and everything and this week and
[1:27:30] next week we'll be conducting focus groups, we're reaching out to bus riders and yesterday we were
[1:27:38] in Nelson County with Jabba talking with senior residents about their needs for transit, we're
[1:27:46] surveying bus riders in person at the Transit Center, and we're going to hold a public meeting
[1:27:51] on June 23rd at 6.30 p.m. after the Regional Transit Partnership meeting, it's a Zoom meeting,
[1:27:59] so people can attend from anywhere. And July will be completing our local presentations,
[1:28:06] will be updating the website, and then in August we'll hold a final meeting to present the final
[1:28:11] recommendations to the regional transit partnership and present the completed plan then.
[1:28:22] So any questions?
[1:28:24] I have a question.
[1:28:25] Because they do, I know demographics and things like that when they study in businesses,
[1:28:31] but I know they do accounts on how many people work in this area, how many people live
[1:28:38] in this area would travel outside?
[1:28:40] Yeah.
[1:28:41] So that was actually the first thing that they did was they looked at where they were
[1:28:45] Where people live, where they need to travel to, and that's how we came up with the 11% increase
[1:28:54] to jobs in Green County, we had a map of where the job access to jobs are and compared
[1:29:02] that to where the transit routes would go, and where people could take the bus to those jobs.
[1:29:07] Thank you.
[1:29:11] You look questions.
[1:29:14] On minutes.
[1:29:15] You see those things have been up in my mind.
[1:29:18] I think I think outside of the box.
[1:29:20] We're down.
[1:29:21] Well, I mean, that's a magnetic.
[1:29:28] You know what I mean?
[1:29:29] You know what I mean?
[1:29:30] Japan hasn't.
[1:29:31] I guess I have a couple of questions.
[1:29:35] A lot of questions.
[1:29:36] But when you say multimodal, what are you talking about, can you give us a list of what you are looking at?
[1:29:47] Well, one of the things with public transit is there are a lot of different ways to travel.
[1:29:56] Most of us get in our car and we drive to where we're going and we park and walk.
[1:30:02] So, multimodal would be thinking about alternatives to private vehicles. So, taking the bus, one of the things with the vision plan that we're working on is proposing micro transit service. So that would be something like Uber or Lyft, but it would be a public service. So it would be subsidized and run by a transit agency.
[1:30:30] So there would be those types of services would be a multi-model.
[1:30:35] If you're going to take public transit,
[1:30:38] you need to be able to walk to your destination or to the bus stop.
[1:30:43] So that would be multi-model would be walking
[1:30:45] or riding your bike to the transit station or your destination
[1:30:50] from transit.
[1:30:54] So it multi-model is kind of a little bit of everything.
[1:30:57] Okay. Does it include light rail? Does it include those kinds of things? Because I've always thought
[1:31:04] that down 29 would be ideal place to put a light rail rapid trip all the way down.
[1:31:11] Yeah, I would love to see that. So the TJPDC did do a study on that and the consultants took that into
[1:31:17] account when they're doing this study here. I think that what they want to do is propose things that
[1:31:24] community will accept and can be funded. So right now they are proposing a bus rapid transit
[1:31:33] up and down route 29 so there would be service up to the airport. So from Charlottesville
[1:31:41] on route 29 up to the airport with 15 minutes service, so you wait 15 minutes for each bus to come
[1:31:49] And hopefully, at some point, if that was to happen, we would be able to create a dedicated
[1:31:56] lane or maybe have the lights work on switches so that the buses wouldn't have to stop
[1:32:03] at the lights.
[1:32:03] And it would be faster than traveling and traveling in your vehicle.
[1:32:07] So would he like a light rail, but it would be less investment, less capital investment, for
[1:32:13] the community to pay for it?
[1:32:15] I may have missed it. What is the year outlook? Is this five year tenure plan? What's the horizon you're looking at?
[1:32:24] This is looking, well, so it's looking at 40 years.
[1:32:30] But the governance study will end in October of 2023, and if we are successful, we can start looking at enacting pieces of this.
[1:32:42] five, ten years maybe?
[1:32:46] Okay, thank you.
[1:32:47] Mm-hmm.
[1:32:50] You know the questions?
[1:32:52] Thank you very much for your presentation.
[1:32:54] We look forward to hearing future plans.
[1:32:56] Thank you.
[1:32:57] Thank
[1:33:00] you.
[1:33:00] The presentation will be the assessment process and maintenance of the local
[1:33:04] real property valuation data.
[1:33:07] This appears to appear some crisis service.
[1:33:09] Please come forward.
[1:33:15] Stay warm.
[1:33:15] Good to see you there.
[1:33:16] Yeah, I'm Fred Pearson with Piers and the Fraser Service.
[1:33:20] I wanted to thank the Board for, I've had an opportunity to work with a green candidate
[1:33:25] for 40 years off and on doing assessment work and I really appreciate that.
[1:33:31] You have a beautiful county here and a lot of very nice people.
[1:33:35] We did your last reassessment in 2020, and went in effect in 2021,
[1:33:45] after we did the reassessment
[1:33:46] In 2021, in most places, Riddler State took a very large increase.
[1:33:53] I would say on average probably 15% on homes.
[1:33:59] You usually do one every two years.
[1:34:01] You might be looking at doing another one for the same work.
[1:34:06] Right now, to go in effect for January 1st, 2023.
[1:34:13] We had some inquiries about doing a site visit for the properties.
[1:34:21] There's just a tremendous amount of counties up for a re-opraisal right now for
[1:34:25] 2000, 23, especially for effective for 2024.
[1:34:31] If you did want to do that, I recommend that you get started.
[1:34:34] probably in 2023 and do the work in 2023 in 2024, do you go into back January 1st,
[1:34:46] 2025,
[1:34:48] so that would be my recommendation to you there.
[1:34:53] But I'll pick that down to any questions for you.
[1:34:55] Questions?
[1:34:56] Yes, sir.
[1:34:57] Now with the inflation like it is right now.
[1:35:00] I mean, even if you didn't start to say next January or next June, I mean, I probably don't
[1:35:08] be a recession by the end of the way, but in crisis of following, maybe, level off, so on.
[1:35:15] Right now, I would say that, in my opinion, probably, probably, probably, stabilizing now.
[1:35:22] I don't think you're looking at the big increases you've gotten into past. I think the
[1:35:27] It's hoping pretty good. I really have not done a market study for a green county. We do have access to him out of us if you want us to do a report for you
[1:35:35] We can do that. I saw a
[1:35:38] I saw Sunday I was watching news and they said
[1:35:43] 50 points and then Monday this the Fed was saying three quarters to a 1% increase within the next week
[1:35:51] So we're gonna find out tomorrow
[1:35:58] But any questions please let me know, you used to do a reassuction once or two years.
[1:36:05] We've been doing just reviewing sales and just in the process and the system to reflect
[1:36:11] market value.
[1:36:12] We look at it by the different areas of the county with subdivisions there and we make adjustments
[1:36:18] for that.
[1:36:19] But that's what we've done in the past.
[1:36:21] It is getting time that you do, I think, to do a visual review when you photos would be good.
[1:36:28] We just don't have, it's just so much work up right now, we just don't have personnel that we can put to that right now.
[1:36:36] I would say if you put it off an RP, you won't get any response.
[1:36:40] So you're going to have people come up with you right now.
[1:36:42] That's what I would recommend.
[1:36:43] And this time,
[1:36:47] and you kind of need to do one to keep your ratio up, so you can keep the
[1:36:51] funding.
[1:36:52] We think drops who are certain level of stress, affecting the amount of money you get from
[1:36:57] utilities, and you get to that point.
[1:36:59] It's just 2020 where you're just, it's never been a year like it as far as I know as far
[1:37:05] as the increase in real estate.
[1:37:07] Now, what's going to happen to future, like I said right now, I think it's stable out
[1:37:13] I don't think it's dropping.
[1:37:17] I can't tell you what's going to happen next year.
[1:37:19] I can tell you that the stock market's been hit pretty hard.
[1:37:22] I want you to have to watch it.
[1:37:25] I want you to have to watch it.
[1:37:26] But how the real estate still is still good.
[1:37:30] I respect that they're going to keep raising interest rates probably a half a percent.
[1:37:37] But it's going to be like this.
[1:37:39] I did.
[1:37:40] So you mentioned looking at this through 2023 and forward to go into effect 2025. Are you talking about the full assessment?
[1:37:51] Yes. Start working on that. Yes.
[1:37:54] Okay.
[1:37:54] In 2020-23 you got it?
[1:37:56] How do you know if you started in 2023?
[1:37:59] How do you know by the time you get to 2025 you have the right number is still?
[1:38:03] Well we're going to use sales in 2024.
[1:38:07] and it would go in fact for 2025 just like right now we did it. We're going to use sales
[1:38:13] for 2022 and we've made an extension in order to get that done to be going in fact
[1:38:21] by January 1st, 2023.
[1:38:23] I'm sure.
[1:38:25] I'm sure.
[1:38:26] I'm sure.
[1:38:26] I'm sure.
[1:38:27] I'm sure.
[1:38:27] I'm sure.
[1:38:27] Yeah.
[1:38:28] If I could, sir.
[1:38:30] We've heard many comments about how frequently we should do a table top assessment.
[1:38:38] Yes.
[1:38:39] And it's range from two years to ten years.
[1:38:43] Some people have talked to me.
[1:38:45] What's your assessment of how frequently a local government should do at least the table top assessment?
[1:38:54] I would think probably you need to do one.
[1:39:00] I think it's almost been ten years since we did the last one here.
[1:39:04] I'd say that's probably the longest you should see.
[1:39:07] You should go.
[1:39:09] It's just nice to get out, property values.
[1:39:13] You just want to check and make sure everything's assessed.
[1:39:15] You want to look at the condition of the homes.
[1:39:19] Most homes stay in average condition.
[1:39:21] But you've got some homes that go down in value too.
[1:39:26] They have been maintained very well.
[1:39:29] When you get to a place that you have to do a lot of maintenance on the house,
[1:39:33] it's going to affect the sale price of that house.
[1:39:36] It's been sitting vacant for two or three years.
[1:39:39] It's going to affect the value quite a bit.
[1:39:42] Yes, one of my concerns is that if you do it on a regular basis,
[1:39:48] let's say two to four years,
[1:39:50] It may help some people that may hinder other people depending on what they want to do, some people that want to sell, might want to see an assistant.
[1:40:00] More frequently and be able to sell it. Others may not. Why? Because they don't have the funds to repair it or whatever.
[1:40:08] So I guess that's one of my biggest concerns as to how frequently should we really do this.
[1:40:14] I really think you should do it every two years. You want to not get large increase. People don't like large increases at one time.
[1:40:24] And right now, if you do it, you know, it's 2021 was just a bumper year.
[1:40:32] You're still going to get probably a very large increase for 2,000, for you reassessment
[1:40:38] goes to the fact, January 1st, 2023, but you want to stay away from that large increase.
[1:40:44] We just did rock and ham county homes there when I put about 45 percent.
[1:40:50] That's very well.
[1:40:51] And they were, and what was the last one that was there?
[1:40:53] they're doing it four-year cycle.
[1:40:55] They're on a four-year cycle.
[1:40:58] Wow.
[1:41:00] Well, that's my concern.
[1:41:02] Yes.
[1:41:02] It's the longer you go, it may appear to be okay, but when you get to that point, whether
[1:41:10] it be four years or six years, it can be quite a hit for a community, for a resident that
[1:41:17] owes their home.
[1:41:18] Okay.
[1:41:19] I want to point out, too, based on conversation, which is different, and to be out there,
[1:41:24] I think we should just personal private text as part of the budgetary process after
[1:41:28] reassessment.
[1:41:29] We're given the current tax rate and the equalization tax rate.
[1:41:32] So we know that if this is the current tax rate, if we lower it this amount, the
[1:41:37] residents are paying you saying, say, or if you raise it this amount, the residents
[1:41:41] paying you saying, if it's the value that's gone up or gone down,
[1:41:44] And I go to example, in my country, in 2007, if we get a system of 2007, if you weighed
[1:41:50] five to six years, rest of the panel, a lot more in taxes, year 2008, 9, 10, and 11,
[1:41:55] year 2009, the panel at the last.
[1:41:58] A lot of people use their home value for equity loans to sell their property, sell people
[1:42:06] to do reverse mortgages on their property because that's how they're funding their retirement.
[1:42:12] But we have the option to do that.
[1:42:13] And I think if the person probably, too, I think every year,
[1:42:15] a person probably should endure it.
[1:42:17] This is your personal private tax.
[1:42:19] Equalization is this.
[1:42:21] I mean, raise your lower accord.
[1:42:22] If we hadn't had that in place, the person probably wouldn't be
[1:42:25] where we are today with the kind of situation.
[1:42:26] I support the equalization issue of the personal private tax.
[1:42:32] I don't know what we need to do to make put that in place,
[1:42:34] but I just think we need to talk to the commissioner.
[1:42:36] the revenue, probably when the election takes place,
[1:42:38] I have a workshop here at the process.
[1:42:40] We want to see what the values are earlier on,
[1:42:43] when that's part of the budgetary process,
[1:42:44] have them give us the information or yearly basis.
[1:42:47] And then we won't, in case we go through another pandemic,
[1:42:49] that we're totally overwhelmed,
[1:42:51] we'll have to deal with this issue again.
[1:42:53] Great.
[1:42:53] Most peers.
[1:42:54] Yes, so I don't you agree with rock and ham campaign
[1:42:57] with the growth for the students
[1:42:58] like that, even on the graduates,
[1:43:01] just as many as the UVA, and they've grown like crazy.
[1:43:05] I don't know was nothing of that, you know, you know, James Madison University at the end of it.
[1:43:11] Yeah.
[1:43:12] I will say, people took that increase pretty good over there.
[1:43:16] We had to still, the larger increase you have, the more fields you have.
[1:43:21] But we held their hearings ourselves and the people in the county, they were excellent
[1:43:27] to work with and, you know, we did not get as many fields as I felt we were going to get.
[1:43:34] we did have a lot there.
[1:43:36] It follows two years anyway, correct?
[1:43:39] Well, there were four years and you've been on a two-year cycle.
[1:43:44] And I think that's good.
[1:43:45] Any time you keep people getting large increases at one time,
[1:43:49] it's good.
[1:43:51] Thank you.
[1:43:53] For the question of discussion.
[1:43:56] Thank you very much.
[1:43:56] Thank you.
[1:43:57] You have a nice evening.
[1:43:59] Thank you, Chair.
[1:44:01] So this, this career of submission, first of all,
[1:44:03] We've went through an exercise starting
[1:44:06] about February investigating towards doing a full blown
[1:44:10] reassessment or a door door, whatever we'll call it,
[1:44:15] a visual review, a reassessment for the county.
[1:44:18] And found first of all, that from contacting several folks,
[1:44:24] some of whom used to do such work and no longer do.
[1:44:27] Others are just overwhelmed.
[1:44:29] Piersons who have done a lot of work for us over years
[1:44:33] appreciate the relationship. Here's to be our best for a vendor going forward, that's
[1:44:39] served. The professional's going forward to do the full visual reassessment. That does need
[1:44:46] to be put off to the 2025 reassessment because of the amount of work involved in the meantime to
[1:44:55] on the two-year cycle, which is...
[1:45:00] I think that from what I've read of it, and I sent the board an article over the weekend from my recent, the most recent study I could find was from the Federal Reserve Bank in Philadelphia, and did another study in the last few years.
[1:45:12] And I said, first of all, everybody agrees that real estate tax has problems in issues, and Richmond has tried to adapt to other taxes, but they're not making much progress with that.
[1:45:25] one thing that they find and that federal reserve's that he finds is that reassessing more
[1:45:30] frequently leads to the fairest possible results with the real estate tax. So we're trying
[1:45:37] to keep on the two-year cycle, which would mean needing to get Mr. Pearson started on the
[1:45:55] seen that and if it's acceptable to the board, we would like to get him started on that work.
[1:46:03] We could put it on the board's consent agenda for your next meeting or whatever you see fit.
[1:46:09] And if there were questions about that particular engagement for current work,
[1:46:14] it needs to be current in order to keep us on the two-year cycle that is the board's existing
[1:46:21] it off in cycle that needs to be engaged presently. So if we have questions from Mr.
[1:46:27] Pearson about that, we would like to focus on that particular issue.
[1:46:32] If you started in 2023, when would it take effect, I guess?
[1:46:36] January 1st, 2025. So we started in 2023 and it took effect in 2025.
[1:46:42] And the last time we did it was in 2020 and it took effect in 2021, right?
[1:46:48] Yes, sir.
[1:46:48] So that would be a four-year, well that's a two different, to stay on the two-year cycle, we need a table top assessment,
[1:46:55] reassessment done, just based on sales data. Yes, man, and then starting early next year,
[1:47:04] begin the next cycle of full visual inspection reassessment. Well that was my question,
[1:47:10] is he did the table top? He did the table top this year, when would those figures take effect?
[1:47:17] January 1st, 2023. 23. Okay. Okay.
[1:47:22] And you stay on your cycle.
[1:47:24] You're done. Okay.
[1:47:27] But just to discuss it, I'm here to provide a service.
[1:47:31] And anyway, I can assist you. Please let me know.
[1:47:34] I know it's nothing like a problem.
[1:47:36] He used to go and have to do assessments on housing.
[1:47:39] Yes, with the bank.
[1:47:42] And I know, you know, you're going to somehow
[1:47:44] might look beautiful outside.
[1:47:49] When everybody do assessments, we do not make interior inspections.
[1:47:53] That's why when they come into the hearings, I ask them a lot of questions about the interior of the home.
[1:47:58] And it does make a difference.
[1:48:00] But my biggest concern is if we don't do the table top now, come 2025.
[1:48:09] I don't want to see citizens see a 45% increase.
[1:48:13] I just don't know what the market's going to do.
[1:48:15] What's that? I just don't know. No, no, I understand that. I would ask you to predict it.
[1:48:20] But it concerns we go in four years as to what might happen. Yes, all right.
[1:48:24] What is, but what if we did? What if we just shifted everything up one year?
[1:48:30] Because we're in a weird year. We've already gotten messed up with personal property tax.
[1:48:38] If this goes through, and in 2023, people's real estate tax is up 45, 55, 65 percent, because it's in 2020, too.
[1:48:54] That's actually the goal.
[1:48:56] We can control that.
[1:48:58] See, the difference is with personal architects.
[1:49:01] You can style you want to.
[1:49:02] But the difference with personal architects is that we never had the equalization rate before.
[1:49:07] as a board, we get the current tax rate for the budget turn process during the
[1:49:14] and during the assessment year. And if it's a two cents, and let's say that the
[1:49:18] values of a home that's going up 40 percent, they'll show us the current tax rate
[1:49:23] and then the Equalization rate is given to us as part of the tax process, which means
[1:49:27] we decrease that by a certain amount. So the homeowner pays the same amount. So that's
[1:49:32] But what you're saying is that all five of us, or majority of us, have to go to go with that equalization rate.
[1:49:42] Okay.
[1:49:42] So we get to a point and, you know, all of a sudden, we need some money and for whatever reason.
[1:49:50] You know, I'm sorry, but I can't, I'm a one person up here.
[1:49:54] I can't, I gotta do what I think is right.
[1:49:57] Well, I think the two of your cycle is right.
[1:49:59] Good.
[1:50:00] And I'll talk to other people who are complaining of a personal property, who are complaining of business taxes, and we discuss real estate tax.
[1:50:10] And the comments I have heard is, don't mess with the two-year cycle in real estate for that reason.
[1:50:15] Business people, though.
[1:50:17] We have private individuals.
[1:50:20] They're talking about their business property.
[1:50:21] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[1:50:26] Then we have people are afraid that if we had an equalization process with personal property, we would have the information to make the correct decision.
[1:50:37] We did not, and that's why I suggest we do the same thing for personal property.
[1:50:40] I agree.
[1:50:41] So I mean, because it works with real estate, there's one year the board had lowered the tax rate I think by 12 cents.
[1:50:49] And we're still, we might be at the rate it was for the Lord it, and that's been years ago.
[1:50:54] I don't know.
[1:50:56] The Board can make that decision at that time frame,
[1:50:58] whether to keep it the same and the Lord.
[1:51:03] Most of the time, when people have, we haven't had the outright.
[1:51:07] Since I've been on the board to start in the real estate tax,
[1:51:11] the individuals usually have the...
[1:51:18] or too low, nasty appeals process, but to Pierce was referring to.
[1:51:22] So they also have another avenue for approach, you know, to do a heal.
[1:51:26] The process, first of property, we had, there was very little in place because of such an unusual event.
[1:51:32] But the real estate values, this has been in place because it's an ongoing event.
[1:51:37] It goes up and it goes down.
[1:51:40] And you have to be careful because, like 2007, it could have hurt them in 2009, it could have helped them.
[1:51:46] that she doesn't need that bubble, you know, people around the values, but that's just my opinion.
[1:51:51] Only the only question I have about the assessments this year and last year, or whatever, is we have these Airbnb's,
[1:52:02] and these people who go out, they're bid 20, 50,000 more dollars, above what it's,
[1:52:10] I mean, with the prices on it, well, the bank would fine answer them up because they're going to make that money back within a year and still own this property.
[1:52:23] That's what balls mean about a lot of homes that are being bought up just for the Airbnb's.
[1:52:31] I definitely think we need to stay on that two-year plan.
[1:52:34] It's spurred frightening to go past the two years to me and it's mischievous, we can control that rate.
[1:52:42] And that's not feelings on this.
[1:52:47] Control rate plus, you have your equalization of logic and go before it.
[1:52:51] That's where you're going to feel to bring in.
[1:52:53] Yeah, I don't know about that.
[1:52:55] But Mr. Susan, is what I'm saying making sense to you like does my concern make sense to you?
[1:53:01] Whether or not we have this process, like do you understand where I'm going to say it?
[1:53:06] What you're saying is you're afraid the market is going to drop.
[1:53:10] No, I'm afraid that everything's going to get assessed extremely high and bills are going to go skyrocket.
[1:53:17] You control what the bills are, what the overall bills are, what the tax rate is going to be.
[1:53:24] I do the assessments.
[1:53:26] That's what I do.
[1:53:27] But I'm just meaning the values of the homes.
[1:53:32] The values of the homes, in my opinion, right now, we're going to go up.
[1:53:37] Your assessed values are going to go up.
[1:53:44] You have your assessed value, you've got your tax rate.
[1:53:47] And you're going to have to, I would think you're probably lower your tax rate.
[1:53:51] But that takes, I had a separate instance, majority of this for, too, a green for that, that's for it.
[1:54:01] But to add that the notification is the equalization process in a reassessment year,
[1:54:12] and Ms. Kim, jump right in when I get some of this wrong, because I don't remember it all,
[1:54:17] But the point is, when the reassessment goes up, and would then generate more than
[1:54:25] what is 101% more than so much increase in taxes, it is a requirement of state law that
[1:54:34] the equalized rate be public.
[1:54:37] So, in other words, there is a mandatory and reassessment years for real estate.
[1:54:42] This doesn't exist for personal property.
[1:54:44] But for real as day, it's required by statute
[1:54:48] that we determine what the equalized rate would be,
[1:54:52] what would the tax rate, so the assessment,
[1:54:54] the value goes up, the loss as we must determine what will it.
[1:55:00] Tax rate B, that would yield effectively the same revenue to the county. And we must advertise that rate as the equalized rate.
[1:55:12] And then, right, that goes to public hearing for the tax rate. And the board, just like any other year, the board can adopt whatever tax rate, the board finds necessary inappropriate for the community.
[1:55:26] But the advertisements, so the public disclosure is there, only in the reassessment
[1:55:32] year of what the equalized rate should be.
[1:55:37] And that's where the frequent more frequent reassessments, I think, tend to help
[1:55:43] because then as the market value changes up or down, the value that is reported in the
[1:55:50] system is accurate, and where that is, is changed enough to change the local revenue.
[1:55:57] There's a mandatory disclosure of what the equalized rate would be, so that everyone
[1:56:03] knows how the evaluation and the tax rate work together.
[1:56:12] I worry about the fact that I noticed a budget has gone up so many millions of dollars in the
[1:56:18] last three years. I'm just kidding. We're spending too much money. I mean, be honest. And I wouldn't
[1:56:25] want it to be up here in the next thing. You know, well, we need all this. I know we need money,
[1:56:32] but. Well, that's it. And it's easy to when I was talking about earlier where I'm very concerned
[1:56:36] that next year a lot of the money that's in our current budget is going to not be there based
[1:56:43] just the weird circumstances that have happened and that we've heard about from other
[1:56:50] constitutional officers etc. So, you know, it's concerning to me. I don't want to
[1:56:57] push it out, you know, I understand why you don't want to push it out. Believe me, I do get
[1:57:02] and I get the process, but with everything else going on, it's concerning to me. And I don't know
[1:57:09] we're going to be next year. I'll tell you what, I'm ready for like February 20, 23 right now.
[1:57:17] I want to see what that budget is going to look like.
[1:57:23] Any further discussion?
[1:57:26] How much?
[1:57:29] Should we get opinions from the public? I mean, we don't, we don't make a decision tonight.
[1:57:36] I'm not trying to, I'm not slight when I was two years ago.
[1:57:40] He, I don't think he was asking for decisions, right, I know that.
[1:57:43] Mr. Taylor, we're sending you a part of the Senate agenda.
[1:57:45] Right.
[1:57:46] He needs us on a tier of cycle.
[1:57:48] So it could be a part of the Senate agenda.
[1:57:49] We could decide at the networking, whether if you've received a tier of cycle or not.
[1:57:55] And then at that point, if we go to the tier of cycle and if we do the resescent,
[1:57:59] and then the transport board is part of a budget or a process,
[1:58:02] but then it's March or April.
[1:58:04] We'll get, if we go through the resescent, he'll be equalization rate,
[1:58:07] and then if you have a kind of hearing,
[1:58:09] what would be a visualization rate
[1:58:10] because we have to advertise that
[1:58:11] and then if this is common to whether or not
[1:58:14] about the increase in the real estate tax.
[1:58:17] Court of degrees.
[1:58:18] When you do the tabletop,
[1:58:19] you just take out of certain force,
[1:58:21] you don't actually go out, you just,
[1:58:24] we usually go out and look at the sales.
[1:58:26] Say it.
[1:58:27] So we look at, we look at subdivisions,
[1:58:30] we look at it by each district in the county.
[1:58:34] Sometimes we look at it by quality construction,
[1:58:36] and working together to see if their average quality bill at homes compared to the good quality
[1:58:42] bill at homes.
[1:58:44] We can earn ratios on that.
[1:58:46] We try to reflect the market value as close as we can.
[1:58:49] Well, the market value is now in our county.
[1:58:52] I don't know who they going crazy.
[1:58:54] I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
[1:58:56] I'm sorry.
[1:58:56] I'm sorry.
[1:58:56] I'm sorry.
[1:58:56] I'm sorry.
[1:58:57] I'm sorry.
[1:58:58] I'm sorry.
[1:59:01] I will use no sales from Abermore County or Charlottesville on the year today.
[1:59:08] I think it was clear some things.
[1:59:11] Just better pleasure.
[1:59:12] Thank you very much.
[1:59:13] So to stay one to two years like we would need it this evening.
[1:59:19] We'll meet it.
[1:59:21] That's one of the table top.
[1:59:23] Reassessment.
[1:59:24] And for Jay, I would like to put this to everyone.
[1:59:30] Sorry.
[1:59:31] Just to note, if I believe the county code
[1:59:33] would require it to be two years.
[1:59:36] So if you decide to change it,
[1:59:38] you'll have to have a trouble of hearing to be able to change the law.
[1:59:42] And if you wait till the next meeting,
[1:59:44] the earliest, you'd be able to have a problem with hearing,
[1:59:47] and every time it would be the end of July.
[1:59:52] The second meeting is the law.
[1:59:54] Which actually does the second meeting
[1:59:55] I think it's going to be obvious before you change the law.
[1:59:58] I think it's decided.
[2:00:05] So the question is, basically, having like a Senate agenda, whenever we're at a point, we can vote on it. And then, if we decide not to go through, then we have to do the change in how the law, which would be a public hearing, it would be like in the volumes. So to get back to your point, I would agree to place on a Senate agenda.
[2:00:28] No, no, fair. Thank you.
[2:00:34] Oh, you need a motion.
[2:00:35] Well, that's unique.
[2:00:37] But this is not good.
[2:00:38] I think we're going to suggest it.
[2:00:39] It's like this is a gesture of you.
[2:00:41] Put it on the edge of the edge of the edge.
[2:00:42] Yeah.
[2:00:43] Put it on the next two.
[2:00:44] Next one.
[2:00:45] Next one.
[2:00:46] Yeah.
[2:00:47] And at that point.
[2:00:48] It was clear.
[2:00:48] And you might know no problem.
[2:00:51] Carol.
[2:00:54] Oh.
[2:00:57] Oh.
[2:00:57] I forgot something.
[2:00:59] I'm glad to welcome you.
[2:01:08] I don't think so. He's with him 30 years. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Well, I should know it. Yeah. Manage it. Oh, it's okay. Okay, but he's been retired. Oh, I guess 15 years. Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.
[2:01:26] I appreciate your time.
[2:01:28] Thank you.
[2:01:29] Thank you sir.
[2:01:30] It's always good.
[2:01:31] Thank you.
[2:01:34] The next presentation will be the Finance Quarterly Report.
[2:01:38] Ms. Nars, please go forward.
[2:01:46] I'm trying to do this.
[2:01:53] Ms. Nars, I don't mean to follow you.
[2:01:56] But you said it was a quarterly report,
[2:01:59] but it's a six month report.
[2:02:01] A ban, no.
[2:02:02] It's...
[2:02:04] It's...
[2:02:04] It's...
[2:02:05] It's...
[2:02:06] Okay, second fall. We're looking at that.
[2:02:18] Okay, I did a bit of the first one. Yes, thank you.
[2:02:25] Good evening. Tonight, I'm presenting the second quarter of on each report, which in the December 31 of 2021.
[2:02:32] This report will compare the year to date revenues and expenditures for fiscal year 2022 to the current budget.
[2:02:40] The contingency line item has the balance of 248,464 dollars and 35 cents.
[2:02:50] The supplemental appropriations that have been approved by the board are in the amount of
[2:02:54] 1 million, 376,913 dollars and 44 cents.
[2:03:00] This includes grants, donations, and carry over programs for fiscal year 2022.
[2:03:07] The cash balance for the Treasury's report to the board as of December 31, 2021 is
[2:03:12] $18,419,169.
[2:03:18] The cash balances are represented by the gray line, the actual year in fund balances represented
[2:03:24] by the orange line, and the fund balance minimum is represented by the blue line.
[2:03:32] The revenue details summary report is in your board packet and provides detailed for
[2:03:36] all revenue categories.
[2:03:38] The revenue charts are as follows.
[2:03:41] The real property tax chart compares the current revenues and budget to the previous fiscal year.
[2:03:47] Tax collections are twice a year and December of 2021 and in June of 2022.
[2:03:53] Real property tax set an increase of 419,853 dollars and 71 cents from 2021 to 2022.
[2:04:05] Personal property compares current revenues and budget to the previous fiscal year.
[2:04:09] Personal property tax had an increase of $376,541 in 65 cents from 2021 to 2022.
[2:04:21] This next chart shows the remaining scheduled selected local tax revenue categories compared to the previous fiscal year.
[2:04:28] This includes local sales and use tax, hotel and motel room taxes, restaurant and food taxes, and permits and other licenses.
[2:04:39] local sales and use tax had an increase of 103,000, 47 dollars and four cents, hotel and
[2:04:46] motel room tax had an increase of 6,543 dollars and 78 cents, restaurant food tax had an increase
[2:04:55] of $133,562 in 67.
[2:05:00] And permits another license that has had an increase of $60,000, $447.78 every last fiscal year.
[2:05:12] And that's the data for those charts.
[2:05:15] This chart compares the revenue, the previous fiscal year to the current risk fiscal year. This chart shows that all categories in the blue, which is the previous fiscal year, compared to the red, which is the current fiscal year, had an increase over the previous fiscal year.
[2:05:32] and that's the data for that chart.
[2:05:39] This chart compares the local tax revenue categories for five fiscal years.
[2:05:43] fiscal year 18, 19, 20, 21, and 22.
[2:05:48] This chart displays a decrease in personal property for tax year 21 and a decrease in permits
[2:05:54] and other licenses for F-21.
[2:05:57] Real property taxes, local sales and use, hotel motel, and restaurant food taxes all
[2:06:02] had increases in each fiscal year.
[2:06:05] In your packet is expenditure detail summary that provides detail for all expenditure categories.
[2:06:13] This chart shows the quarterly year-to-date expenditures for all funds.
[2:06:18] It compares each fund to the total year-to-date expenditures.
[2:06:22] The total spent for all funds through December 30th, 2021 is $39,792,454.
[2:06:31] and 15 cents, and the categories or as follows.
[2:06:35] The general fund is 47%.
[2:06:38] Social services is 2%.
[2:06:40] CSA is 2%.
[2:06:43] Solid waste is 3%.
[2:06:45] Schools is 45%.
[2:06:47] Capital projects is 1%.
[2:06:50] And school construction and debt service are all zero.
[2:06:53] The actual number is less than 1% for each category.
[2:06:58] And this is the data for that chart.
[2:07:01] The next chart shows that general fund only represents year-to-date expenditures for general
[2:07:07] fund categories.
[2:07:08] The percentages are as follows.
[2:07:11] General fund is 8%.
[2:07:13] The judicial administration is 2%.
[2:07:16] Public safety is 31%.
[2:07:18] Public works is 3%.
[2:07:21] Health and welfare is 1%.
[2:07:24] Education, which is PVCC, it's not the schools, shows as zero because it's actually less than
[2:07:29] percent. Parks and Recreation is 2 percent. Community development is 3 percent and non-departmental
[2:07:38] is 50 percent. And which involved in non-departmental?
[2:07:46] That is the transfer, that's the transfer of
[2:07:49] jessor.
[2:07:51] And that's the data for that chart. This last chart shows the year-to-date expenditures
[2:07:58] for general fund categories that are turning above the appropriation, the appropriation as
[2:08:03] December should be 50%. There's only one category that's turning above, and that is public safety.
[2:08:11] That includes your quarterly payments for the jail for our commitment, and the additional truck replacement program for our fire departments.
[2:08:19] And the general fund expenditures are being spent at 44.57% in total, which is less than the 50% allocation.
[2:08:29] And that is the data for those tarps. If there's any questions, I'm happy to answer your questions.
[2:08:34] I have
[2:08:37] any questions in the post?
[2:08:45] Thank you very much.
[2:08:46] Thank you.
[2:08:50] We have no items to first review.
[2:08:53] Information items updates and reports will be board-langives on the reports.
[2:08:58] Anyone has one?
[2:08:59] All right.
[2:09:00] The PJPDC did meet our June 2nd.
[2:09:03] Let's check if it's just here.
[2:09:04] And I was proud to present that night.
[2:09:07] I was traveling.
[2:09:10] They did discuss, of course, the value,
[2:09:12] broadband, grant contracts.
[2:09:13] Let's discuss, they did like a new slate of officers that night, and I will say that they are an excellent hands from the new slate of officers that elected the ESAB would meet next Tuesday night.
[2:09:27] Mr. Mayan?
[2:09:28] I've had a sole and water last Tuesday, and what are some different programs, and both the getting funded, the best of elegant and funded.
[2:09:40] I mean, they're going to do dams and everything with inspections and I don't know what that upkeep.
[2:09:46] But they got a lot of programs with soil and water, I just wish a lot more people in green
[2:09:51] county of the life of those.
[2:09:55] Is that working for the police?
[2:09:57] Yes.
[2:09:57] The St. Bruceville Town Council.
[2:10:00] Last night, their budget was approved and appropriated. They're also going to be getting new banners for the light, including the new ones that are going up. They're going to be a mix of something that the linking on the name, the barn quilt, is it the art guild? The art guild? They have come up with one design. They're also going to kind of rework the current design and it's going to kind of
[2:10:31] Switching out as you go down through, there's also going to be a really nice sign out on not sure exactly which one, but on one of the lands that for the farmers market.
[2:10:45] And it's going to have a nice farmers market when it advertise and sort of thing, green farmers market.
[2:10:51] And then there was one more thing, but I'm going to bring that up under item 13 other matters.
[2:11:01] Yes Madam Chair, I attended the school board meeting on the 8th and Dr. Whitmarsh shared the
[2:11:10] impact 2027 strategic plan for the school district. I thought it was very well done. If you
[2:11:18] go up to the school website you'll be able to see it but it lays out the strategic plan for the
[2:11:24] school district for the next five years. The second item they did discuss a lot about
[2:11:30] safety in the schools and all the things that have been done and many things that are
[2:11:35] going to be done again safety is one of their primary concerns given what's happened in
[2:11:42] the recent past so they did discuss that and there will be no July school board meeting held
[2:11:50] The next meeting will be at Hardest 10th.
[2:11:53] I did attend the job meeting on the same day, June 6th,
[2:11:58] and I did forward the agenda and packet to the board,
[2:12:01] just so you had that as back road.
[2:12:06] They did receive more money from the federal government,
[2:12:10] and that will be in the minutes that I will
[2:12:12] for you.
[2:12:14] The next meeting is on July 13th, which is the second Wednesday
[2:12:18] the month and they now are at what they consider to be pretty close to full time operators
[2:12:24] at 68 and they have a new one in Green County so we should be fully staffed at this
[2:12:31] point in times Green County. So what's that screen use? Yeah that's they they had a very difficult
[2:12:38] time finding bus drivers as most other transportation entities have done but that's that's a good
[2:12:48] that was good news and the plan of commission meeting is tomorrow at 6 o'clock June 15th
[2:12:56] and I have one other item under other items and then it comes that time.
[2:13:00] Thank you.
[2:13:01] All right.
[2:13:02] I have no reports to release.
[2:13:04] Can we have a story about date?
[2:13:07] Yes, ma'am.
[2:13:11] Yes, ma'am.
[2:13:11] Yes, ma'am.
[2:13:18] Yes, ma'am.
[2:13:21] Yes, ma'am.
[2:13:22] Yes, ma'am.
[2:13:24] Yes.
[2:13:25] This is a photo that shows a section of repointing that was done by Titan as a sample of the
[2:13:38] work to be done repointing and sealing the historic courthouse.
[2:13:44] This was done as a sample for review.
[2:13:47] And we received input, ask and received input from the Green County Historical Society, received an email from Miss Jackie Pamenter, which I'll read briefly.
[2:14:07] The Green County Historical Society was recently asked by the County Administration for input.
[2:14:12] On upcoming work, on repair the facade of the historic Green County Courthouse in Stanners
[2:14:17] of Virginia this work, this is work for which we submitted a letter in support of a
[2:14:22] grant application in December 2021.
[2:14:26] Having discussed the scope of work with Mr. Dave Schram, the field operations manager for
[2:14:31] the Titan Restoration Company, the county's contractor on this job.
[2:14:36] We see no reason not to go ahead with the work S specified with the provider that both the
[2:14:41] and any sealer that is used or appropriate given the age and fragility of the bricks.
[2:14:47] Many beautiful historic brick structures have been severely compromised by the wrong choice of mortar.
[2:14:52] In his email today Mr. Schrams stated that the Titan will be using a type O mortar to point to point the...
[2:15:00] Direct joints with a mortar mix that is period and color matched to the original. In addition, we are in accordance with the decision that power washing of the building, which had been originally specified, will not be undertaken.
[2:15:16] Also due to the soft and fragile nature of the mid-19th century bricks, we look forward to seeing the work completed.
[2:15:22] So, this is the type of water it is, color match to the original mortar, some of which is evident down on the bottom of this photo.
[2:15:34] It is a sample of the work that will be done.
[2:15:39] It is conformed to the bed specification for the job.
[2:15:46] and more importantly to the National Park Service standards that are applicable to restoration
[2:15:54] jobs of this sort.
[2:15:57] And what Titan is wanting in the reason I'm showing you this picture is to have the boards
[2:16:04] approval for Titan to proceed based on the sample one and everyone know what this is
[2:16:09] going to like.
[2:16:09] It looked like, and I would, for the record, appreciate motion as the board sees fit.
[2:16:21] The sample section meets the bedspack, satisfies the historical society, and conforms to the
[2:16:28] parks or the standards for such work.
[2:16:31] I think that they have a good job, I don't know if that building is old enough to be like
[2:16:37] all the buildings that I know, like Robert Allen's house, the brick of thick. I mean they put
[2:16:45] so many brick at the bottom and then they come up like that. I don't know if that's if it
[2:16:51] pulled out like that or not. I don't know. That looks wonderful to what it looks like. I think I want
[2:16:56] to look five years old. That's being reserved. I'll make a motion that we approve the renovation
[2:17:03] as submitted given the Historical Society's comments. I'll second that.
[2:17:11] We have a motion by Mr. Bowen as Secretary of the Hearing.
[2:17:14] I'm Mr. May. I'm excuse me. Roll call vote.
[2:17:17] Mr. Hurray.
[2:17:18] Aye. Mr. Lam.
[2:17:19] Aye.
[2:17:20] Mr. Teflon. Aye. Mr. Bellman.
[2:17:21] Aye.
[2:17:22] And the chair votes on.
[2:17:23] Thank you.
[2:17:25] I also want to share the news. Thank you very much.
[2:17:27] that our own Sean Leak, formerly our zoning inspector, is now, he's gone from being sort of
[2:17:37] fiable.
[2:17:38] We were almost a bit worried about it.
[2:17:40] To being certified, he passed today his test for his erosion and sediment control and stormwater
[2:17:47] program administrator certification.
[2:17:50] And so he is all that in a side of fries and we are a very proud of Sean and congratulate
[2:17:57] him.
[2:17:58] Also, I am happy to share the news that after a thoughtful selection process, we have
[2:18:08] extended an offer to a buildings and grounds maintenance worker.
[2:18:13] This is for the additional position-starting July 5th to work with Justin Morris in
[2:18:20] facilities maintenance and I'm excited that we are adding to the role of the
[2:18:28] tailors on the Green County staff. This is Mike Taylor who will be joining us.
[2:18:36] No relation but with the prevalence of names like Morris and Schifflet around
[2:18:41] these parts, I'm proud to have another Taylor on the team.
[2:18:46] Yeah, I met him for the first time today. We didn't grow up together or anything like
[2:18:49] that, but I'm happy to have him join the team.
[2:18:54] We are also working on hiring the other positions that the board approved in the budget.
[2:19:00] These will, of course, all be starting after the beginning of the fiscal year, but we're
[2:19:04] very excited.
[2:19:06] I know that the number of departments, and we have had a number of concerns, I'm sorry
[2:19:12] that the sheriff's still not here, but I did speak with the sheriff at some length this
[2:19:15] morning, and now he and some others have been concerned about some pending maintenance items
[2:19:21] that they've been waiting to see performed.
[2:19:24] And the frustration has been that with only one Justin Morris and with the need to complete
[2:19:29] the recruitment process for the maintenance worker and for custodial workers and to award
[2:19:37] some contracts or select some contractors to provide on-call trades work.
[2:19:43] Justin's been in a bit of a season of doing a lot of HR and procurement work in the office,
[2:19:51] rather than getting out and doing maintenance in the field. We'll get that rectified,
[2:19:57] getting him staffed up appropriately and resources.
[2:20:00] So he can cover all of the work for the departments and the Constitutional Officers is an important first step.
[2:20:13] We have another slide after Brexit. Look at that. I, yes, the Fourth of July is coming. I wanted to share this news.
[2:20:21] said to be the biggest and best ever, and look forward to it, we'll be circulating this
[2:20:26] on social media as well, and the thing about the board probably would have appreciated
[2:20:36] if I had started with this news, but during this meeting I have gotten happy confirmation
[2:20:43] that both the Orange Board of Supervisors and the Madison Board of Supervisors have also adopted
[2:20:49] this evening, the same concurrent resolution that you passed just after closed session.
[2:20:58] So all three counties, the three member counties in the Rapid Ann Services Authority are
[2:21:04] in agreement to the withdrawal and transition agreement of today's date that was been negotiated
[2:21:15] between Orange Madison and Green. It will be, we expect on RSA's agenda for their meeting
[2:21:24] on Thursday. I will be due at the negotiation session at the Court in Charlottesville
[2:21:34] in the morning. I think with the actions by the counties, this should be hopefully a
[2:21:40] of a straightforward discussion tomorrow morning.
[2:21:45] Thank you very much for that action.
[2:21:49] Finally, on looking ahead to your meeting on June 28th,
[2:21:59] and a number of things have, for various reasons,
[2:22:04] come off of that agenda.
[2:22:05] but I think with the anticipation that a new glamping application will be a before the board
[2:22:15] that same evening, and that was also the date for discussion of the budget process.
[2:22:24] The question I had was, would the board like to take up the budget process discussion in a workshop
[2:22:33] up format and start the meeting a little early, say it for 30 in order to have time for,
[2:22:41] make sure we have time for the budget process discussion. Without the, frankly, we don't
[2:22:48] know unless Jim has any later information. The last time clamping was before the board that
[2:22:54] was an all-day affair and just wondered to think ahead, as it is right now, June 28th will
[2:23:04] have glamping and would like to have, of course, the budget process discussion.
[2:23:09] I'm sure I could ask you a question.
[2:23:11] So you're proposing 430 to 530 to discuss budget 530 to 630 would be our executive session
[2:23:18] and then we go and I think that makes sense.
[2:23:20] Yes, sir.
[2:23:21] I think that makes sense, all right, more than a range of, and that I believe is all I have.
[2:23:31] I like the photos, the last one, so I saw something up out, I don't know if any other one is on it.
[2:23:39] Do you have a fold?
[2:23:40] Yeah, go back to July 4.
[2:23:42] You don't find that in most events in the world, I'll show you in just a second, as Jim brings
[2:23:48] it back up.
[2:23:56] see right that free pocket and admission you will not find that in any event pocket even people
[2:24:06] have houses 10 dollars $20.
[2:24:10] I'm sorry.
[2:24:11] Thank you, Michael Taylor.
[2:24:13] I was the board.
[2:24:15] I'm not going to be sitting like something else.
[2:24:17] Yes, and I know Mr. Pepper does as well.
[2:24:20] I'll minor very quick.
[2:24:21] Two quick things.
[2:24:23] I've done some research in small counties in the state of Virginia, and I've come across
[2:24:28] this one called Accounting of Acomac, ACC, OMACK, and I'm very impressed, I didn't print
[2:24:37] the whole fiscal plan off, it's 444 pages, I downloaded it, I have looked at it, I see it
[2:24:44] as a very, very wonderful template for us to take a look at.
[2:24:49] There is a physical plan, a strategic plan that lay out very detailed plans.
[2:24:56] The county is only about 30,000 or 28,000, so like that's not much.
[2:25:00] So, I would encourage my fellow board members to take a look at county of academic fiscal year 2023, proposing a fiscal plan.
[2:25:13] I'm not suggesting that the county immediately move and be able to completely change how we're doing, but at least look at this kind of approach.
[2:25:24] that I think is very, very accessible to citizens, as well as board members.
[2:25:30] It shows revenue streams, it shows expenditure streams, it shows the strategic plan, they have
[2:25:38] EMS law enforcement and other funds set aside and designated for those particular topics.
[2:25:46] I was very impressed with that, what it looks like.
[2:25:48] I'll just share that with you in the second one is maybe it's not on the 28th, maybe it's
[2:25:55] in the first meeting in July.
[2:25:58] Maybe an update from administration and Mr. Friedel, I'm a habitat request that I had put
[2:26:05] in last meeting or a meeting before.
[2:26:07] Those are the two things I have.
[2:26:09] Thank you.
[2:26:10] Thank you.
[2:26:11] Was that fun?
[2:26:12] Yes.
[2:26:13] Most of this is quick.
[2:26:14] Um, I saw that we had a building official position that just got listed recently.
[2:26:21] Is that a new position, or was that an exception?
[2:26:23] No, no, that's an existing position, uh, there is anticipation of, uh, retirement of our building
[2:26:32] official coming up this fall.
[2:26:34] He seems serious about it and we are trying to plan a hit.
[2:26:39] Okay.
[2:26:40] move with transition.
[2:26:44] Another thing I was wondering because hearing about the
[2:26:49] glamping coming that up, I went on to our agenda for the 12th, when we
[2:26:58] knew when we had that, which actually says the 13th on, I think we're going to get a
[2:27:03] list, but anyways, the old presentation is no longer big. And I know that this
[2:27:10] new presentation, but I just wanted to revisit it and that isn't that a matter of public knowledge
[2:27:20] that those all those links and all the letters that we received for and against it shouldn't
[2:27:25] those all still be on there. You dealt with the two day of April 4 and 6 meeting we had to
[2:27:32] You know, I'm talking about the board meeting.
[2:27:35] We pay a side of the clamping to midnight.
[2:27:38] Yeah.
[2:27:38] But they should.
[2:27:41] And they're certainly in the public record with the planning department.
[2:27:47] OK.
[2:27:47] And everything under action items on that day.
[2:27:51] There's nothing there.
[2:27:52] There's nothing for the elections either.
[2:27:54] Honestly, I can't remember if there was links for that or not.
[2:27:57] But I just wanted to bring that up.
[2:28:02] I would like to see that go back on there, just simply heard the fact that their public record.
[2:28:12] Anyways, so there's that.
[2:28:15] And then I was curious, when will the comprehensive plan come to the board for a review?
[2:28:23] It's under-reviewed from the planning department there are probably three more months after review and then the planning department will review the draft of the entire document and the recommendations to move to the board.
[2:28:44] We've been working on it now for a year and a half.
[2:28:48] We were unable to complete any chapters until January of this year.
[2:28:56] And then since then, the Plenty Commission has been completing draft chapters, usually about
[2:29:04] two chapters per month.
[2:29:06] We had almost two meetings for chapter prior to this year, so that's why it's close so quickly now.
[2:29:15] It's because they're looking at things in the third time.
[2:29:18] So it may be fall or something winter.
[2:29:21] We hope to have all the chapters done by the end of the summer and then depending on how long it takes to put the final draft and for another planning commission and have them to review everything.
[2:29:34] But yeah, so fall at the very worst case that I would imagine before saying for a
[2:29:43] question.
[2:29:45] Cool.
[2:29:46] The other thing I was going to ask about is I was wondering how the board thought about
[2:29:54] adding an item called old business.
[2:29:58] You know, it's a prick.
[2:30:03] But that way we can just kind of keep track on some of the things that we need to follow up on. One example is the 609 traffic study that I asked about earlier. We've asked about the short term, towards lodging registry. I know things have happened with the commissioner's office, but just to kind of keep those organized.
[2:30:30] So, and no, we don't have to make a decision tonight, but I just wanted to bring that up for a discussion.
[2:30:41] Can I suggest that you talk to the chair of our board?
[2:30:46] She's the one that really improves the agenda's and stuff.
[2:30:49] I have no problem ending it.
[2:30:51] So, I will just suggest you talk to Mr.
[2:30:56] I will reach out and I'll make sure for example if you're under old business that we
[2:31:01] have specific items, that way, except that a guy needs to revisit to bring back, he will
[2:31:07] be caught off guard and that we can have an informative discussion.
[2:31:12] Yeah.
[2:31:12] Oh, yeah.
[2:31:13] Yeah.
[2:31:13] I mean, the point is to, so that it's more organized and just, you know, we just put these things
[2:31:19] moving along.
[2:31:20] That's all the point is of it.
[2:31:22] I have this thing contacted me now that we have gone forward with the adoption tonight for R&C.
[2:31:34] What would you say at the timeline of sister Taylor on that $30 fee? When would like the last R&C official bill go out?
[2:31:44] I got one in June, but they are.
[2:31:46] The facility to look was an honest one.
[2:31:47] Do you want a Gmail I received?
[2:31:49] Right, but it's close and there.
[2:31:50] But let me suggest,
[2:31:54] first of all, that these are two different, two different thoughts.
[2:31:59] We are at right now this evening in the situation of having the three member counties agreeing
[2:32:09] to the terms in the agreement and the concurrent resolution.
[2:32:13] We need the RSA board to take action on Thursday, given the action taken by the three
[2:32:23] member boards tonight, respectfully Mr. Bowman is one of our RSA reps.
[2:32:28] I would want to suggest that it would be reasonable and appropriate for the RSA board to take
[2:32:36] action on Thursday not only ought to approve the agreement that has been approved by
[2:32:45] Orange Madison and Greenville, but also to rescind again the facility for you because there
[2:32:53] is in the anticipated transition of operations to Green County. We do not intend to operate
[2:33:03] going forward with facility theory.
[2:33:08] So the timing is unfortunate with hearing and the process and the faulty hearing and
[2:33:18] the more process that the RSA did to get to the situation that we're all are feel sick about
[2:33:26] confusion in the imposition on the customers, but that was RSA's choice and dynamic at
[2:33:35] the time.
[2:33:38] So now as to when the first county bill will be misheavened and when
[2:33:45] Operational transition will actually occur.
[2:33:50] I have been working really alongside the curve,
[2:33:57] the draft of the current agreement,
[2:33:58] preparing the package for the Virginia resources authority.
[2:34:03] We've done advance work with all the agencies
[2:34:05] that need to approve this transition.
[2:34:08] Realistically, I don't expect that that's going to happen by July.
[2:34:13] first at this point, but we need to have, and I think that the dynamical change so that we
[2:34:21] can have after the RSA board votes if they will vote to approve the agreement, that
[2:34:29] should take us past the RSA staff resistance, frankly, to this transition. And if we'll at
[2:34:38] point become real and weak. So I expect to have a much better answer for the board in the
[2:34:48] coming week to two weeks and by your next meeting, be talking about the transition plan.
[2:35:00] And talking about our water supply project and other projects and pending grant applications going forward.
[2:35:10] And so that's up to the minute where we are, we're forward to sharing and as much as I feel comfortable sharing publicly right now,
[2:35:22] Because the RSA, we need the RSA board to take responsible action on Thursday to implement the decisions of their boards of supervisors and the three counties, and I think we will march forward.
[2:35:36] I had a good pace from there.
[2:35:39] But we do, we can, and I hope that the RSA board of majority, it's a majority vote of the RSA board to take that fee away.
[2:35:50] And, for us, due to technicality, the legal dispute, those will what drove the hearing
[2:36:01] of RSA to re-institute the fee if this dispute had gone away and the fee would have gone
[2:36:06] away sooner.
[2:36:07] Okay.
[2:36:08] So that's perfect.
[2:36:09] Thank you.
[2:36:10] It will relay about a possible resending of the fee on Thursday and will have more info
[2:36:17] in one to two weeks.
[2:36:19] I think she'll be fine with that.
[2:36:22] Also, she asked me about apparently
[2:36:26] Comcast has a $30 discount that they will
[2:36:31] give to senior citizens, Orange County does this.
[2:36:35] So she called, she heard from a friend, you know, that
[2:36:37] lives in Orange.
[2:36:39] So she called Comcast, and Comcast told her
[2:36:42] that Green doesn't approve this $30
[2:36:45] or senior citizen discount.
[2:36:49] So I wanted to just bring that attention to you.
[2:36:53] Wait, help me.
[2:36:56] There's a discount for students who are
[2:36:59] only reduced income.
[2:37:01] I've never heard of the senior citizen discount
[2:37:04] for kind of a cast.
[2:37:05] So they said Orange County is a senior assistant
[2:37:07] to discount box.
[2:37:09] What do you think about a test mark?
[2:37:11] I don't know.
[2:37:12] I have no idea.
[2:37:22] I don't know because I mean she heard it from her friend, but she did call and Comcast said oh yeah orange, you know has approved that but Green County has not. So maybe that's something we can look into because I mean that would just be a nice thing. I don't know what it all entails.
[2:37:39] see what? Yeah. Great to find out more. I only have two more things and I'm hoping they'll
[2:37:47] be relatively quick but another citizen that I've had a lot of conversations with is having
[2:37:55] issues with an Airbnb which is being operated under an LLC and the owners, they're never there,
[2:38:04] you know, this is strictly for people coming and going.
[2:38:08] It is in the dogwood valley subdivision, so you know, the roads up there are dangerous.
[2:38:15] Also the citizens are there, there's no HOA, they're not counting the teens,
[2:38:20] so the citizens themselves are in charge of whatever happens.
[2:38:25] They can get sued if something bad happens, so there's that aspect.
[2:38:30] So, it's in the C1 zoning, and I'm concerned about this particularly, but also in the
[2:38:42] more general sense about just this tourist lodging and the 16 and 251 ordinance that we have,
[2:38:50] because if you look at 3-1-1, which is uses per-mitted by right, it just says
[2:38:59] tourist lodging in accordance to 16-25-1. That states in the 0.3 of 16-25-1
[2:39:10] is states. One dwelling per parcel is permitted for tourist lodging and
[2:39:15] I'll be in accordance with all applicable zoning district requirements, yards, setbacks, heights, etc.
[2:39:25] 3-2 says for the C1 says the minimum law area for permitted uses shall be 8 acres.
[2:39:35] And this is this particular property is 0
[2:39:44] .25.
[2:39:47] So it doesn't make sense, it's contradicting to me, you know, I don't know how others feel about it.
[2:40:00] But the other part of this is that the deed of dedication specifically states that all of these properties in the subdivision are for residential use only.
[2:40:15] So, you know, maybe you could argue that an Airbnb is not a business at the home, you know, but that goes against our ordinance in our one in a way.
[2:40:25] So I don't know.
[2:40:28] I think that, so the question is, Jim, what do they need to do?
[2:40:38] Because they want to do something.
[2:40:40] Do they need to do a petition of some sort?
[2:40:42] Do they need to go to the Planning Commission?
[2:40:44] What can this community do?
[2:40:46] Who is that in this question?
[2:40:48] Well, I will get her or I'll give you the information afterwards.
[2:40:52] Okay, you say is it random people in the United States or is it that particular number?
[2:40:59] No, Dogway, Dogway, Dogway, Dogway, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley, Dogway Valley.
[2:41:05] Okay, so the simple, we can talk about this probably easier to explain in the office.
[2:41:12] The simple thing is that particular property has its own certification is fully legal even if the board chooses to change the law.
[2:41:22] They would then be grandfathered and continue to continue
[2:41:26] as an outcome for me to use.
[2:41:29] The lot size has nothing to do with the zoning
[2:41:34] or the certification for the Airbnb and the determination
[2:41:39] about anything to do with the DE.
[2:41:43] Not as many issues as a private citizen matter
[2:41:46] and they would have to talk to a attorney
[2:41:49] into advice for them on my English law.
[2:41:53] So...
[2:41:54] Well, we don't distinguish between houses.
[2:41:57] We don't regulate private agreements between landowners.
[2:42:02] So, that's the deal.
[2:42:05] Any major way stuff is outside of candidates' control and authority.
[2:42:11] So that's fine.
[2:42:15] So, I guess what I need to tell them is that it has to go through legal research.
[2:42:22] My suggestion if they have questions, there's absolutely no reason why they can't call on
[2:42:28] asking and will explain everything in the beginning.
[2:42:31] Well, that's why I'm bringing up because this, I think you spoke to this man and then he's
[2:42:37] tried to call back three times and hasn't received a phone call back.
[2:42:42] So I have voice mail, I haven't received a voice mail, I'm at the email here every day, I'm
[2:42:52] more than happy to meet with the person, respond to email, and I'll leave the message
[2:42:56] on that together.
[2:42:57] So respond.
[2:42:59] Then I'm going to relay that information to him, but I still think that there's some issues
[2:43:08] here, like, I don't, the wording doesn't make sense. Now, if what you're saying is true,
[2:43:14] which, you know, I have no reason to necessarily believe that it isn't, but the wording
[2:43:19] in our zoning is not clear. It does seem to contradict itself a little bit. I have also
[2:43:27] a little bit about the loss of the wording. But in this particular, so again, that's
[2:43:33] But it's the lot it was created, it doesn't forward change at all, and that law doesn't
[2:43:40] exist.
[2:43:41] When the source changes the law, you don't take away that present property rights, you
[2:43:46] don't take away their ability to have a house on that property, and then the tourist lodging
[2:43:51] law says, if you have a house on a legal lot, and you're in C1, then you can do tourist
[2:44:02] So, it's just about the law on about what legal and non-conforming things.
[2:44:07] We have a lot of lots of green that were created before zoning or before the zoning
[2:44:13] lots of changes. My house is a non-conforming lot. It wouldn't be allowed to be created today,
[2:44:20] but no one on the board has the authority to take my house away.
[2:44:24] So, does it easy to say?
[2:44:27] No, it doesn't make sense.
[2:44:29] So, you know, maybe it's because I don't see a lot within our zoning ordinances of where
[2:44:35] like those revisions have happened.
[2:44:38] There's some, but there wasn't one, at least I didn't see one of what you're saying.
[2:44:43] So, that would actually have helped me to better understand.
[2:44:47] So, that's just something I thought I'd throw out there.
[2:44:50] But I do think that we do need to look at this.
[2:44:55] I think that it would be good if the board did workshop or gardening.
[2:45:00] The zoning and the SPP and the tourist lodging. And I think it would be good to do it as more of a community forum and I would like to get feedback from people that, you know, however they want to see it be or whatever their concerns are or why they like it. It just seems to be the past couple years, a very big deal in this county and I think that we should start looking at it a little bit closer.
[2:45:32] for me. So last night I said I went to the standards bill town council and they did talk about
[2:45:43] the glamping proposal and it was said at least two but I think three times it was said by two or
[2:45:53] three different people that the Board of Supervisors helped the applicant find a suitable parcel
[2:46:01] or, and that would be the one cross from cell row or, yeah, on cell row.
[2:46:07] So, is that true? Because I was not part of the head conversation.
[2:46:13] The board doesn't look for parcels from businesses. So, no, the board did not help them find it civil parcel.
[2:46:22] Oh, okay, okay.
[2:46:25] At the board, at the board, as a whole did that,
[2:46:27] you would be aware of that fact.
[2:46:30] Well, that's, yeah, that's why I was bringing it up
[2:46:32] because it seemed awfully strange
[2:46:34] that it would be said by three people.
[2:46:39] And that I had no idea that this had occurred.
[2:46:44] So, okay, doesn't it?
[2:46:46] Jim, I'm not sure what book.
[2:46:49] If Dogwood Valley has got driveways like yes right, I think I carried rock up on 1970 on
[2:46:57] in my dump truck because it didn't have to raise your body up.
[2:47:00] You just back down to the house and pull up the wheel.
[2:47:03] That's how steep the driveways are.
[2:47:05] So I mean, it may be because I don't, Marie, you said they may have had zone in there.
[2:47:12] This is 70 million.
[2:47:14] Yeah, a lot of those times gone.
[2:47:16] Most of those internal subdivisions gone to 6, 6, 9, 7, and 7, and 7, and 1.
[2:47:21] So it was copykhangs.
[2:47:23] Yeah, that's what it was.
[2:47:25] I thought, if you find any vertical mountain in the valley of the Jinguines,
[2:47:31] Blue Rises in the Jinguines, somehow,
[2:47:34] BKhangs bought it and made it into some division in the early 70s.
[2:47:37] I wanted why the people who lived up by what a lived when they came down here.
[2:47:41] One day, it's children in the level.
[2:47:44] Just a quick note, when we transfer the location to the PAC and one bus meeting, the agenda is on mind.
[2:47:53] It's just that the links typically are associated with the drainage system.
[2:47:58] So the links to the packages for the meeting aren't lies.
[2:48:03] And we'll try to figure out a way to make that more accessible.
[2:48:07] But anybody, especially as a board member, you can call our staff and planning, you can
[2:48:14] call Miss Morris, and we can easily provide that information.
[2:48:18] So it's there when we're working on those links, but it has to do with the meeting being shifted.
[2:48:23] But the agenda is actually posted.
[2:48:26] Okay.
[2:48:27] Yeah, no.
[2:48:27] But it is.
[2:48:28] I just was looking for the links, and then it was like over the weekend or something.
[2:48:32] And then the planning commission won, got posted.
[2:48:36] So I just, I looked at that.
[2:48:38] But I just wanted to bring it to your attention.
[2:48:40] You know, those links aren't there.
[2:48:42] And they are public records.
[2:48:44] So I don't know how we got to do it.
[2:48:46] But we got to get them back up.
[2:48:48] Thank you.
[2:48:49] Eric, what can I have with you?
[2:48:50] I have to be warm for you.
[2:48:51] Yes, ma'am.
[2:48:53] Most of the time, you might want to listen to this.
[2:48:55] I got an email from the ladies' valour at the Registrar's Office,
[2:49:01] And she said, thanks for calling, recently regarding my email, I have preliminary figures regarding the ally rate for deputy registrar from other locations, and I love the of those who have completed this recent survey to range for part time deputy registrar falls in range of 14 to 25 dollars on our 1438 14
[2:49:29] up to 24 or 25. The population range of the counties is from 10,000 to 20,000 to 24,500.
[2:49:43] And then she was showing the ranges up to 24,500. I think that's what she's doing.
[2:49:51] So, I mean, I don't appreciate it. You know, not being constitutional officer.
[2:49:55] I'm sorry.
[2:49:58] I'm sorry.
[2:50:00] Kind of a lot quicker. Based on what I think I would like to recommend, is that once the November election takes place and we have a commissioner revenue elected, I think we need to have a workshop with a commissioner revenue to review certain things.
[2:50:15] When I was through my attention to business tax, the licensed tax, how do we do that?
[2:50:20] It's different for the localities.
[2:50:22] The personal private tax, I mentioned earlier, trying to create, have got equalization.
[2:50:27] And the elderly tax relief as well.
[2:50:30] Some of these items should become part of our yearly process.
[2:50:34] Like the elderly tax relief.
[2:50:35] That should be something that should be part of our normal process.
[2:50:38] That comes from Mr. Remu as far as the impact.
[2:50:41] And we can make an decision on that.
[2:50:43] We discussed it this year.
[2:50:44] We read into Gactionals that, you know, inclination or personal property tax, hopefully when
[2:50:48] government faces the same situation, but we had that information earlier on, it would
[2:50:52] be much easier for us to make it a decision and, of course, the business tax, you know, we
[2:50:57] need to look at that and how that's handled as well.
[2:51:00] But we really can't do that and do a Commissioner reviews full of like to it, all right,
[2:51:03] and you have a current Commissioner or the Intercommissioners, is got their hands pretty
[2:51:07] busy, but I like this just that we do that, also I would like to revisit a TOT tax.
[2:51:13] at some point in time, as far as the increments we had like 6, 7, and 8 cents, had that
[2:51:17] could impact tourism going forward, and we said, so that's what dedicated that public safety.
[2:51:23] But that's what we sound like we could probably do, maybe in November, and then again, you
[2:51:30] know, in the end of who's in office,
[2:51:34] there's a possibility to guess money in office, who's
[2:51:36] never been in office, and that position before, that may make it a little bit more challenging
[2:51:41] to get the information, but just a little bit.
[2:51:47] But that information would help us quite a bit.
[2:51:49] I think if we start our process and give it through it,
[2:51:53] I don't think we'll revisit the same situation we're in now.
[2:51:58] And if it goes, it's to make sure we learn from the current situation
[2:52:01] and not revisit in the future.
[2:52:03] And it's clear that.
[2:52:05] I'm just having one minor thing to bring up on the business tax I've talked to Ms. Tade and
[2:52:12] have had several people call me and I know we haven't reviewed that for good number of
[2:52:16] years and I think we can discuss this with Ms. Tade or if new Commissioner Howard's going
[2:52:21] to work and a future with my one review and look into that a little bit.
[2:52:27] I think what he said in the calls to the beginning was having as people were getting hit hard
[2:52:31] with the gas prices, the cost of materials,
[2:52:34] and the business tax, and everything else.
[2:52:35] And we are different, the elsewhere in the country.
[2:52:37] And maybe we should start up a time frame to review
[2:52:39] some of these ordinances in the past,
[2:52:43] and have this on the books, but really haven't been looked at.
[2:52:46] We may need to update some of that on.
[2:52:49] No, no, no, no.
[2:52:49] That's not supposed to think about, I think,
[2:52:51] to fall to.
[2:52:51] Yeah, that's a good idea.
[2:52:54] Because I've gotten calls to people,
[2:52:56] but I said, yeah, I mean, anything else in the board?
[2:53:00] If not, I'll entertain your motion to adjourn.
[2:53:03] So moved.
[2:53:05] I'll second.
[2:53:06] We get stick heard of motion for adjourn.
[2:53:08] Who is Mr. Bowman's second?
[2:53:10] We'll call that, Mr. Bowman.
[2:53:11] All right.
[2:53:12] Mr. Bowman.
[2:53:13] Mr. Herring.
[2:53:14] Mr. Layne.
[2:53:15] Elector of the Excellents.