1 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:17,860 Good evening. Today is Monday, September 21st. It is 5.08 p.m., and we're going to call it order the board of review. 2 00:01:20,450 --> 00:01:41,890 Okay. And if everyone is a reminder, if everyone makes sure that your green lights are on on your microphones. Okay. And I'll go ahead and take the role. It is 5.08 p.m. Michael Braswell is excused. Amanda O'Day. Here. Donald Reed. Here. John Graber. Here. Jared McFarland. Here. 3 00:01:45,890 --> 00:01:53,510 So the first item is a selection of a chair person and we're going to open that up to the floor for anyone. 4 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:57,940 I think John Graber you would be a great person. 5 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,120 If you'd like to be nominated as a chair person, are we able to do that without Michael President or no? 6 00:02:03,340 --> 00:02:04,460 Yeah, I don't agree with that. 7 00:02:04,820 --> 00:02:07,140 Okay, all right, I nominated John Graber. 8 00:02:07,540 --> 00:02:08,640 I'll accept the nomination. 9 00:02:15,610 --> 00:02:16,230 Second here. 10 00:02:16,230 --> 00:02:17,010 Okay, 11 00:02:22,420 --> 00:02:28,720 so we have a motion by Amanda O'Day to nominate John Graber as our chair. 12 00:02:29,100 --> 00:02:40,220 Do we have a second a second by Jared McFarland, Amanda O'Day, I don't read. 13 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:49,960 Hi, John Graber, I, Jared McFarland, I motion carries unanimously next we have 14 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:55,760 selection of a vice chair. I would like to formally nominate Amanda O'Day as 15 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,040 vice chair of the board of review. 16 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:02,680 Okay, so we have a motion by John Graber to 17 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:11,020 nominate Amanda O'Day as a vice chair. Do we have a second? A second. Second by 18 00:03:11,020 --> 00:03:19,860 Jared McFarland. Amanda O'Day? Aye. Don Reed? Aye. John Graber? Aye. Jared McFarland? Aye. 19 00:03:19,860 --> 00:03:21,720 Motion carries unanimously. 20 00:03:24,170 --> 00:03:33,850 Next on the agenda, we have verified compliance with mandatory training requirements in Wisconsin statutes 70.46 subsection 4. 21 00:03:34,830 --> 00:03:48,230 Yes, we are in compliance and the PA 107 form was filed with the Department of Revenue on May 4th, 2026, and again on September 3rd, 2026, once all members were trained. 22 00:03:50,010 --> 00:04:02,790 Thank you. Next in the agenda is Verify Adoption of Ordnance for the confidentiality of income and expense information provided to the assessor per Wisconsin statutes 70.477. 23 00:04:11,230 --> 00:04:13,730 Yes, we did adopt an ordinance. 24 00:04:14,050 --> 00:04:19,690 It's ordinance number 2599 and it was adopted on October 16th, 2007. 25 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,860 Number six, receive an examin assessment roll, certify corrections, verify with the 26 00:04:26,860 --> 00:04:29,740 assessor that open book changes are included in the assessment roll. 27 00:04:31,620 --> 00:04:41,900 Yes, I did receive the affidavit from the City Assessor today, and then taxpayers may 28 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:47,980 examine the assessment role now as it's posted to the website at this time if the City 29 00:04:47,980 --> 00:04:49,760 Assessor has anything to share. 30 00:04:50,660 --> 00:04:51,480 I do. 31 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,260 I have some information for each of the board members that I'll pass out at this time now. 32 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Thank you. 33 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,760 In 34 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:30,310 front of you is just a packet of our assessor summary for you of what we've done for the 2026 assessment year. 35 00:05:32,050 --> 00:05:41,910 The attached document is called 2026 summary of reasons for change, which is what I'm going to refer to in the first bullet point. 36 00:05:42,670 --> 00:05:48,350 The summary of assessed values as of September 21, 2026. 37 00:05:48,350 --> 00:06:05,310 The total is $356 million, $726,500, and the starting value is actually on the left-hand side of that spreadsheet. 38 00:06:06,010 --> 00:06:13,190 It is the ending for the 2025 year, which is also the start for the 2026 year. 39 00:06:13,190 --> 00:06:23,930 and that total was $4,335,840,300 and if you follow the chart across from left to right you'll 40 00:06:23,930 --> 00:06:30,470 see the plus and minuses of changes that our office performed for the 2026 assessment year. 41 00:06:31,170 --> 00:06:36,390 We're not in a revaluation year in what's referred to as the maintenance year, so all of these 42 00:06:36,390 --> 00:06:47,330 changes were based on permit work, maybe a sale review, and some information if the property owner requested us to review their property. 43 00:06:47,950 --> 00:06:53,850 Some various things, but not bringing anything up to market value that will be done in a revaluation year. 44 00:06:54,730 --> 00:07:03,250 So actually, when you go across, the column that you probably would be most interested in would be towards the right under increases 45 00:07:03,250 --> 00:07:14,130 It's referred to as column with two and three, that would be your new construction increase for the year and that's a $24 million, $99,500. 46 00:07:15,170 --> 00:07:25,870 So with the plus and minuses on here for the year, the total gain for the city was at $20,886,200. 47 00:07:26,770 --> 00:07:31,810 And so if you just refer to the report you can take a look at that if you have questions 48 00:07:31,810 --> 00:07:38,610 you can always just ask at any time we're here tonight the 2025 assessment ratio for the 49 00:07:38,610 --> 00:07:42,470 city is determined by the Department of Revenue and that was at 88%. 50 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:51,250 The 2026 ratio is not available until after the Board adjourns and they receive the final 51 00:07:51,250 --> 00:07:56,470 assessment role from our department which will file after the Board of Review. 52 00:07:57,170 --> 00:07:59,630 2026, again, was not a revaluation year. 53 00:07:59,930 --> 00:08:02,690 The last revaluation year was in 2023. 54 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:09,930 So for this year's changes, we sent out 422 real estate assessment change notices. 55 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:13,890 They were mailed on July 28th, 2026. 56 00:08:14,830 --> 00:08:19,510 We held the open book, which was officially on August 18th of 2026. 57 00:08:19,510 --> 00:08:25,290 However, that's the official date for the Department of Revenue. 58 00:08:25,490 --> 00:08:29,590 We start working with property owners right after they receive their notices. 59 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:34,750 So whether they email us or call us or stop in, we're working with them and we work with 60 00:08:34,750 --> 00:08:36,290 them right up to the board to review. 61 00:08:37,150 --> 00:08:43,510 So ours is not really just one date, we work with them for several weeks. 62 00:08:43,510 --> 00:08:57,270 And there was, I apologize, I have a typo on there, we had sent out determination letters 63 00:08:57,270 --> 00:09:01,510 from the contacts that we received on September 1st. 64 00:09:01,510 --> 00:09:08,310 We sent out five denied letters and seven granted letters, and then we also had five waivers, 65 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:15,050 which the waivers were sent between the determination letter date and the border review date, 66 00:09:15,170 --> 00:09:26,530 meaning that many of times, 99% of the time, they've contacted us after our open book officially closed. 67 00:09:26,810 --> 00:09:32,650 But we still work with them. And then if there are any sort of adjustments, then we refer to as a waiver 68 00:09:32,650 --> 00:09:41,790 which gives them notice of saying it's less than the Department of Revenue's standard date of time 69 00:09:42,430 --> 00:09:47,410 from when they get their notice to the time that the Board of Review meets. So, they're waving 70 00:09:47,410 --> 00:09:53,050 that right of the notice, but they're still able to have that change made. And if they disagree 71 00:09:53,050 --> 00:09:58,030 with the change on that waiver, still gives them the right to appear at the Board today. 72 00:09:59,410 --> 00:10:14,710 And there should be an open book actions summary along in your packet in which you can see the contacts that we had a little bit of a summary of the reason they contacted us as well as some of what the outcome would have been. 73 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:19,170 We didn't have any parcels that were subject to the ag use conversion fee. 74 00:10:20,090 --> 00:10:25,450 The new laws, there was a law effective January 1st of 2026. 75 00:10:25,450 --> 00:10:29,830 It was the Wisconsin Act 15, which was passed in 2025. 76 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:35,110 It exempts all radio cellular and telecommunication towers. 77 00:10:36,030 --> 00:10:40,270 There weren't any correction of errors, which is a 7043 or 78 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:51,270 We don't have any of those to report the assessor's affidavit was signed today on the 21st by myself and the clerk. 79 00:10:52,010 --> 00:10:58,670 And once the Board of Review is adjourned, we will be filing that final municipal assessor's report. 80 00:10:59,130 --> 00:11:06,970 And then once that's reviewed by the Department of Revenue, they will inform you as to what your level of assessment is. 81 00:11:07,850 --> 00:11:15,830 Throughout the year, our office has been adjusting and maintaining the assessment schedule in duties that are expected of our office. 82 00:11:16,130 --> 00:11:25,970 We review sales permits, we maintain an update assessment data and reports, as well as we're always assisting property owners and the general public. 83 00:11:26,370 --> 00:11:27,190 Thank you. 84 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:33,690 Is there any further discussion? 85 00:11:36,180 --> 00:11:37,180 Anyone have any questions? 86 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:52,100 We're going to move on, number seven, review objections, assessor believes may not comply with statutory requirements and schedule a procedural hearing for the assessor and objector to be heard. 87 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:15,800 I 88 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:19,800 was contacted for the record here. 89 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,720 I was contacted by Attorney Cible earlier today. 90 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:28,860 She's indicated that she's actually preparing for- 91 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:33,520 preparing for trial, so she asked if she could appear by telephone for her argument or 92 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,700 any position she needed to take, so we're going to get her on the phone. 93 00:13:52,180 --> 00:14:03,780 I can hear you just fine yeah can you hear me good okay sounds good on 94 00:14:06,950 --> 00:14:07,230 our 95 00:14:07,230 --> 00:14:13,330 Board of Review meeting agenda today and it says review objections assessor believes may 96 00:14:13,330 --> 00:14:17,650 not comply with statutory requirements in schedule procedural hearing for the assessor 97 00:14:17,650 --> 00:14:18,990 and objector to be heard. 98 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:25,190 There are two objections that just came in. 99 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:27,490 One is Wal-Mart. 100 00:14:27,790 --> 00:14:32,970 They did a notice of intent, but then they filed their full objection form just recently and 101 00:14:32,970 --> 00:14:34,810 then the other one is MNAC. 102 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:38,850 I am still working with the assessor. 103 00:14:38,850 --> 00:14:45,610 We probably will ask the board to subpoena information, so we don't have any information 104 00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:52,890 at this time to say, hold the hearing on whether the objection forms are complete or 105 00:14:52,890 --> 00:14:58,530 not, because we want to issue subpoenas to get more information. 106 00:14:58,530 --> 00:14:59,730 Okay one moment Amy 107 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:26,160 One minute. Sure. Can you put the phone up on the ledge, maybe? Sure, is it the highest? We're trying to make sure our reporter can hear okay? There's some some feedback. You might have to have to do need us to hurt or repeat any of that. Okay. Can we just do a test, Amy? Can you say something? Sure. Can you hear me okay now? It's better. You have to talk up. Thank you. Okay. 108 00:15:29,860 --> 00:15:30,340 I 109 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,100 think we're good, Amy. Sorry about that, and thank you for seeing. 110 00:15:38,830 --> 00:15:46,590 All right, so with, and I don't know, I didn't take a quick look at the agenda, but with 111 00:15:46,590 --> 00:15:53,390 those two objections, the two commercial objections, we would ask the board to issue a subpoena. 112 00:15:53,530 --> 00:15:58,350 I've been working on them today. I will have them finish tonight, but I would ask the board 113 00:15:58,350 --> 00:16:04,270 to authorize the issue of the subpoena for pertinent information that may tend that they're 114 00:16:04,270 --> 00:16:05,790 light on the value of the property. 115 00:16:06,690 --> 00:16:13,130 And then I can, I'll get them to the city and then the perhaps the chairperson can come 116 00:16:13,130 --> 00:16:20,290 in and sign them tomorrow and we will, you know, serve them on the property owner. 117 00:16:20,530 --> 00:16:25,370 And in the case of one of the property owners, the medical office building that's on Cyrilay 118 00:16:25,370 --> 00:16:27,110 and there will be two subpoenas. 119 00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:29,890 This one will go to the property owner 120 00:16:29,890 --> 00:16:32,110 and the other will go to the tenant, which is the rural. 121 00:16:36,630 --> 00:16:41,210 And then a subpoena to Wal-Mart also. 122 00:16:45,020 --> 00:16:46,240 Okay, so this is Chris Gary. 123 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,260 I just want to make sure 124 00:16:47,260 --> 00:16:48,180 that we're clear here on the procedure. 125 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:50,580 So you on behalf of the assessor 126 00:16:50,580 --> 00:16:52,440 are requesting that the board authorize 127 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,180 the issuance of subpoenas by the chair. 128 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:55,960 Presumably tomorrow, 129 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,240 once you get those finalized, 130 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,420 that would then be served under the rules 131 00:17:01,420 --> 00:17:02,520 that the board adopted. 132 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:10,300 the applicants would then have 10 days to compile that information and then the assessor would have seven days to review it. Is that correct? 133 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,740 That's correct. That's my understanding. 134 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:24,180 Okay. So essentially so the board is clear if you authorize the subpoenas what we'll end up doing is picking a new dates approximately three weeks, four weeks down the line. 135 00:17:24,860 --> 00:17:40,280 when we'll then decide at that point, if the assessor thinks they've gotten subpoenas complied with at that point, then we would take up, I know there's at least one hearing waiver that's out there, there may be more than one, I don't call a hand, but in that event, the substantive action would take place at the next date in October. 136 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:49,840 Okay, can we make a motion to have the attorney issue of subpoenas? 137 00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:51,220 I can make the motion. 138 00:17:54,110 --> 00:17:57,330 Motion by John Graber, is there a second? 139 00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:59,130 A second it. 140 00:17:59,790 --> 00:18:02,730 Second by Jared McFarland to issue the subpoenas. 141 00:18:03,230 --> 00:18:04,310 Amanda O'Day, 142 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:13,550 John Reed, John Graber, Jared McFarland, motion carries unanimously. 143 00:18:13,550 --> 00:18:21,360 All right. Thank you, members of the board. Thank you. Thank you. 144 00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:32,170 Okay, so for the board's 145 00:18:32,170 --> 00:18:35,890 edification and for the record as well. Before we adjourn today, we will pick a date that's 146 00:18:35,890 --> 00:18:40,150 going to work for everybody that accommodates those timelines. Then we'll go from there. 147 00:18:43,020 --> 00:18:47,540 All right. Number eight, review objections filed and decide to grant or deny evaluation hearings. 148 00:18:52,570 --> 00:18:59,050 So then for on our list, everyone would have received the spreadsheet. We received the three objections. 149 00:18:59,870 --> 00:19:09,270 That first one is a residential objection for Michael M. Assad, tax key 691-011-5000. 150 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:16,210 For the address of 2935 Westbridge Street Greenfield, Wisconsin, 53221. 151 00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:25,350 So the board of our rules require that the board of review and the assessor discuss all 152 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:30,670 objections that have been received and decide a, whether they'll grant the hearing or 153 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:36,610 b, whether they'll deny it, and then c, will it be a procedural hearing or d in objection 154 00:19:36,610 --> 00:19:43,890 hearing? So we would have to decide, the board would have to decide for number one, Michael 155 00:19:43,890 --> 00:19:44,990 Assad's objection. 156 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,620 All right, and we're all in receipt of the, I think we all have it. 157 00:19:53,740 --> 00:19:54,860 Is Michael present tonight? 158 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:56,340 Yes. 159 00:19:56,660 --> 00:19:56,860 Okay. 160 00:19:57,060 --> 00:19:57,420 Thank you. 161 00:19:57,420 --> 00:20:01,560 Hi. Welcome. Yes. All right. 162 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:14,160 Upon review, it appears as if everything was filled out correctly. So thank you for that. Does the objector have any or does the assessor have any objection to the form? 163 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,540 No, not at this time. Okay. 164 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:20,360 Yes. 165 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:27,810 Pardon me, one moment. I believe Mr. 166 00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:32,710 Satter, are you the list up forward? 167 00:20:33,910 --> 00:20:34,870 Thank you. 168 00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:47,810 Okay, thank you for reminding me. 169 00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:57,750 Excuse me, members of the Board and Attorney and Clerk, we've found that there is a discrepancy that the 170 00:20:57,750 --> 00:21:00,530 form has not been completely filled out. 171 00:21:01,110 --> 00:21:09,770 Item D, the property owner indicated that there has been an appraisal in the last five years but 172 00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:16,090 It did not provide the information as far as the date of the appraisal, the value of the appraisal, 173 00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:18,570 nor the purpose of the appraisal. 174 00:21:22,020 --> 00:21:23,760 Mr. Asad, would you do you have that information? 175 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:25,060 Would you like to complete that now? 176 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,200 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 177 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:26,620 Okay. 178 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:30,620 And then, I'm Mr. Asad. 179 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,120 Could we have you take a seat next to the court reporter? 180 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,560 Maybe she would share the microphone with you, make sure the green light is on. 181 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,100 Yes, and then are we doing testimony at this time or not? 182 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:51,700 That's not because of the formal, my thought was that you would supplement the information that's missing from the sheet, the board would then decide whether or not you think that's sufficient compliance. 183 00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:56,280 And then we would decide whether we want to have a hearing tonight or set it up for a different day. 184 00:21:56,820 --> 00:21:58,360 And if there's no need, I'll spare him. 185 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:58,820 Correct. 186 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,520 Okay, okay, you may proceed, thank you. 187 00:22:01,860 --> 00:22:11,600 Thank you, all right, so part of the form, it was July 17th, 2025, a value was not actually 188 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:17,500 provided for me, the purpose of the appraisal was actually for the bank to approve my loan. 189 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,060 Okay, so you know there was an appraisal completed, but you don't necessarily have a copy of the appraisal? 190 00:22:23,180 --> 00:22:26,780 No, okay, but you know it was sufficient to have satisfied your loan? 191 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,980 Yes, and do you recall how much the loan was for? 192 00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:33,560 The loan was 369,000, okay. 193 00:22:37,410 --> 00:22:38,390 Okay, so now- 194 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,900 The Board can decide whether you think there's been sufficient compliance with the requirements of the statute. 195 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,160 So vision information provided by the objector to go to hearing. 196 00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:57,720 Could you repeat the date, please, I'm sorry, I was in. 197 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,800 717-2025. 198 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:02,940 717-2025. 199 00:23:03,740 --> 00:23:06,140 And you said 369,000? 200 00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:07,020 Roughly, yes. 201 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:12,660 Yeah, and the purpose of the appraisal was it was for the actual bank of my home 202 00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:17,640 mortgage union home mortgage to basically allow through my at the time my broker 203 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,840 cream city mortgage. Okay, and then can I ask you know is this an arms length sale? 204 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:28,520 Thank you. I wish I did. It was not okay. It's definitely on the market for about only three days. 205 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:35,480 Okay, and did you so the seller was unknown to you? You didn't know the seller? I didn't know. 206 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:35,920 No. Okay. 207 00:23:36,220 --> 00:23:38,120 It's time to look on the house on the list. 208 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:44,150 So procedurally does the board have a sense of, 209 00:23:44,250 --> 00:23:45,890 I will have to send me a lot to make motion obviously, 210 00:23:46,030 --> 00:23:49,030 but the options would be some sort of a procedural hearing 211 00:23:49,030 --> 00:23:51,030 to decide whether or not the application is sufficient 212 00:23:51,030 --> 00:23:52,850 or if the board feels that the application 213 00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:54,730 that's been provided is sufficient 214 00:23:54,730 --> 00:23:56,890 within the margin of error that we allow. 215 00:23:57,610 --> 00:24:00,530 And again, it's with respect to residential properties 216 00:24:00,530 --> 00:24:01,630 that there's a more forgiveness 217 00:24:01,630 --> 00:24:03,450 than there would be generally on the commercial side. 218 00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:07,230 Then the motion could be to proceed directly to a hearing 219 00:24:07,230 --> 00:24:09,630 if the applicant and the assessor are prepared to do that type? 220 00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:16,630 I would say it's possible to adjourn this proceeding just because you paid for that appraisal. 221 00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:21,530 So you would be able to get a copy of that appraisal to see, and it did satisfy the loan, 222 00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:27,110 but I would be interested to see if it came in right, you know, to value for the loan, 223 00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:31,550 or if it appraised over or something to. 224 00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:39,390 So, if you could get in contact with Union Home Bank, you paid for it, so you should have gotten a copy. 225 00:24:39,670 --> 00:24:47,390 I know sometimes the mortgage tax that all comes in, you know, it looks foreign, but maybe if you can still access that somehow, through a link, 226 00:24:47,770 --> 00:24:53,410 it likely expired, but or contact Union Home mortgage or your mortgage loan officer should be able to provide that to you. 227 00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:54,210 That would be helpful. 228 00:24:54,210 --> 00:25:04,770 Yeah, and that being the case, we could, as we talked about earlier, we are going to have to have another meeting sometime in October to deal with the procedural issues on the subpoenas. 229 00:25:05,290 --> 00:25:10,570 We could have your hearing at that time, that would allow you time to get a copy of the appraisal if you wanted to, it may help you prepare your case. 230 00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:13,510 Is that the board's pleasure? 231 00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:16,150 I would say in my opinion that makes the most sense. 232 00:25:16,150 --> 00:25:16,430 Yeah. 233 00:25:17,490 --> 00:25:17,910 Okay. 234 00:25:18,290 --> 00:25:18,590 All right. 235 00:25:18,690 --> 00:25:19,770 Yeah, I'll be able to see. 236 00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:25,410 I'll give a call to my cream city mortgage and see, you know, I don't see that then. 237 00:25:25,650 --> 00:25:26,330 It'd be helpful. 238 00:25:28,130 --> 00:25:34,730 You know, the prazer will, a lot of times outline the subject properties. 239 00:25:34,890 --> 00:25:38,770 And I know you included some as well, but to see if there's a better idea, people take a look at that. 240 00:25:39,930 --> 00:25:40,430 All right. 241 00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:46,450 So motion to have you, do we set a date now then? 242 00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:53,750 The motion would be to lay this over to the board's next meeting for our hearing on the substance all right. I'll make the motion. Thank you. 243 00:25:54,850 --> 00:25:56,170 I'll second that motion. 244 00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:07,060 Okay motion made by John Graber second by Amanda O'Day and this would be to grant the hearing and it will be an 245 00:26:07,060 --> 00:26:09,720 objection hearing for the board's next meeting. 246 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,420 Amanda O'Day. 247 00:26:11,420 --> 00:26:12,140 Hi. 248 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:13,180 Donald Reed. 249 00:26:13,660 --> 00:26:13,880 Hi. 250 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:14,960 John Graber. 251 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,380 Hi. 252 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,620 Derek McFarland. 253 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:16,920 Hi. 254 00:26:17,220 --> 00:26:18,460 Motion carries unanimously. 255 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,740 So, if I may ask a question, is that okay? 256 00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:29,240 So, will I be getting an email about when that hearing would be? 257 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,260 Yeah, you can stick around. 258 00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:31,780 You can stick around if you want. 259 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,880 We'll, we'll set that before the, I probably pretty quickly here actually. 260 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,260 Otherwise, we would send out a notice at least 48 hours in advance. 261 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:38,860 Okay. 262 00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:39,420 But yeah. 263 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:39,980 All right. 264 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:40,780 I appreciate you. 265 00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:46,520 question. Is this a two family? No, it is a family home. It's a single family home. 266 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,720 Okay. And being using a big family home. Okay. Thank you. 267 00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:54,180 All right. Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much for that time. 268 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,200 Thank you. Thanks for your time. 269 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,940 Did you shut the door when you think about it? 270 00:26:58,940 --> 00:27:01,300 And did you want me to go on the next one on this? 271 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:06,180 And so the next objection number two on our list was commercial. 272 00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:18,340 It is M-M-A-C-150 Greenfield Wisconsin-L-L-C-A-A-A-A-S group, P-O-Box 92129 South Lake, Texas. 273 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:30,500 Ryan Miller is the agent on record, tax key 606-998-01013, address 9,000, West Surreline 274 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,140 Greenfield Wisconsin-53228. 275 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:34,660 So this 276 00:27:39,740 --> 00:27:58,430 would be the opportunity, I know Amy already spoke to this, I think to a certain extent with respect to the assessor, but if the board has any concerns or questions about the application materials, we could address those here or we can set it recommend setting it forward for hearing or for further review of the spinners. 277 00:28:03,910 --> 00:28:05,510 All right, 278 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:17,080 so motion to carry this over, issue subpoenas, and have it on the future agenda. 279 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,100 I'll second. 280 00:28:21,220 --> 00:28:24,340 Motion by Amanda O'Day, second by John Graber. 281 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,940 Amanda O'Day. 282 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:26,660 Hi. 283 00:28:27,260 --> 00:28:27,800 Don Reed. 284 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,580 Hi. 285 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,700 John Graber. 286 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:30,060 Hi. 287 00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:30,140 All right. 288 00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:31,360 Derek McFarland. 289 00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:31,740 All right. 290 00:28:32,380 --> 00:28:33,880 Motion carries unanimously. 291 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,320 And the third objection on our list that was filed is Wal-Mart Real Estate Business Trust 292 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:55,780 PO Box 8050 Bentonville, Arkansas 72716, Agent Mallory SC 731 North Jackson Street, Jackson 293 00:28:55,780 --> 00:29:02,840 Johnson Street, Suite 900, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 5302, with authorized agents, Stray 294 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,680 Bomb, Carnes, Rodriguez, Wenzel, and Wenzel. 295 00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:18,040 Tax Key 608-995-010, for the address of 1060-00 Wesley, Tenabanyu, Greenfield, Wisconsin, 296 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,520 532-28. 297 00:29:24,030 --> 00:29:27,330 Okay, likewise, I think these testers are already indicated that there may be subpoenas 298 00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:30,510 Those are the very least that they want to lay over a consideration of the waiver request. 299 00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:34,830 Is anyone here from Walmart? 300 00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:39,930 I just had one question for you and it may just be a technical glitch entirely. 301 00:29:40,550 --> 00:29:45,210 But my version of the Asian authorization form, the text isn't coming through correctly. 302 00:29:45,490 --> 00:29:47,290 It's showing as kind of gobbledygook. 303 00:29:48,190 --> 00:29:52,750 And so I guess, I don't know if everyone else, are you seeing what I'm seeing or? 304 00:29:53,270 --> 00:29:53,890 I have. 305 00:29:58,150 --> 00:29:59,910 As city clerk, I did have- 306 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,500 It received that filing by email, and that is exactly how the PDF showed up when I opened it. 307 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:26,890 It's this one here, like this is a cover sheet on that. 308 00:31:29,390 --> 00:31:30,350 Oh, yeah. 309 00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:30,870 Yeah. 310 00:31:31,050 --> 00:31:31,130 Okay. 311 00:31:32,270 --> 00:31:33,090 Yeah, okay. 312 00:31:33,290 --> 00:31:38,170 So just check out your end and see if it's, you know, it may be, 313 00:31:39,010 --> 00:31:42,790 it's only just a technical thing between EDF and the scan and whatnot, 314 00:31:42,970 --> 00:31:43,730 but you 315 00:31:46,130 --> 00:31:49,770 just make sure that on your end it may be even good old-fashioned, you know, scanning. 316 00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:58,190 Okay, so aside from that issue, does the board have any concerns about any sort of procedural 317 00:31:58,190 --> 00:31:58,950 matters of this one? 318 00:31:59,150 --> 00:32:01,510 Or are we going to lay this one over for subsequent hearing as well? 319 00:32:07,530 --> 00:32:10,750 Is there anything that you would like to add for this evening? 320 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:13,230 I know you took the time to come here, so I'm just checking. 321 00:32:13,870 --> 00:32:14,270 Okay. 322 00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:15,950 All right. 323 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:21,060 Well, I'll make a motion then to hold this over. 324 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,880 motion by Amanda O'Day, second by 325 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,620 Jeric McFarland, Amanda O'Day. 326 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,000 Hi. 327 00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:32,120 Donald Reed. 328 00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:33,960 John Graber. 329 00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:34,440 Hi. 330 00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:35,720 Jeric McFarland. 331 00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:36,920 All right. 332 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,820 Motion carries unanimously. 333 00:32:41,270 --> 00:32:41,590 All right. 334 00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:45,530 Next on the agenda is to create a new hearing schedule for written objections file but not 335 00:32:45,530 --> 00:32:45,870 heard. 336 00:32:47,370 --> 00:32:47,890 Okay. 337 00:32:48,010 --> 00:32:51,690 So under the board's rules, we know that there will be at least some subpoenas that are 338 00:32:51,690 --> 00:32:59,350 issue. It's not like tomorrow. Under the rules, the property owners have 10 days to provide 339 00:32:59,350 --> 00:33:03,850 the information that's been subpoenaed. Let me get to that rule. It's rule number no. 340 00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:04,910 Nope. 341 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:14,560 Let me get there. Rule number 18 allows property owner 10 days from the day the subpoena 342 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:20,660 served. And then the assessor has seven days after that to review the board doesn't need to 343 00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:26,780 to meet in between that period of time but so we need to allow at least 17 days for 344 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:27,380 that to happen. 345 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,060 They're actually, the rules do actually allow if the property owner indicates they need 346 00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:32,240 some more time to comply. 347 00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:36,640 The chair outside the board here can actually grant one reasonable extension if it comes 348 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,060 to that but we are kind of coming to the end of the tax assessment season here as well. 349 00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:48,520 So I'd say we shoot for a date three weeks out plus see what works for everybody. 350 00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:55,020 Yeah. Third week of October for everyone's ref was not third week. Three weeks 351 00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:59,340 out would be the second week of October. Well it's the first full week of 352 00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:03,540 October. I should clarify. It's October 4th through October 10th I think is 353 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:07,980 what I'm getting at. So that's why I think we should be looking at for days. 354 00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:09,980 Okay. That makes sense to everybody. 355 00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:15,200 I don't have a specific day in mind. We could 356 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,500 do the Monday October 5th. I want to say calendar look like Jennifer. Okay. So our 357 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:24,400 Our calendar starts getting pretty tight with elections and meetings. 358 00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:26,820 The fifth is not open. 359 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:34,060 We could do Tuesday, October 6th, between 5 and 6.30, maybe say, or earlier. 360 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:37,260 We do have a 7 p.m. common council meeting that night in this room. 361 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:44,440 So if we did even 4 or 5, if we think that an hour, hour and a half is sufficient. 362 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:53,900 We've got the following, the 12th is not available due to training in this room. 363 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:02,740 We have the 13th is open, between 4 and 5.30, there's a 6 o'clock meeting that night for plan commission. 364 00:35:03,860 --> 00:35:10,380 Otherwise, if we look the week before the 8th of October, that's a Thursday, that's open the entire evening. 365 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:19,900 Otherwise, the 14th, that's a Wednesday, that's open from 4 to 5.30, there's usually a finance meeting in here. 366 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,820 The 15th, we've got training. 367 00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:27,560 October 8th, you said is completely open, though. 368 00:35:27,940 --> 00:35:30,140 October 8th is completely open in the evening. 369 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,660 How does that look for everybody? 370 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,640 Let's see, here's that given us enough time. 371 00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:51,580 I feel like it's a little tight with the timeline just because if the property owner were to take the full 10 days, and then if the assessor needed a full 7 days, no, maybe they wouldn't. 372 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,000 But I feel like maybe going to the following we may be a little safer just in case they do need a couple more days to get things gathered up. 373 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,720 What was Jenna for the 14th or the 15th? 374 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:17,520 The 14th, I could probably, that's open from 4 to 5.30 and I could probably work with our human resources to see if they could take the finance meeting to another room or reschedule it. 375 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,100 What time would finance normally be? 376 00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:21,240 Finance is at 6. 377 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:28,120 Okay, I suspect, based on past practice anyhow, I suspect that we'll have the one hearing for Mr. 378 00:36:29,740 --> 00:36:34,980 But the I suspect, based on Prash practice, the other two may end up being waved, or at least one or both parties may end up. 379 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,860 I know Walmart's already indicated that they prefer a waiver in a circuit court. 380 00:36:38,620 --> 00:36:43,900 But I don't think historically, once the assessor gets the information they're looking for, they usually don't object to the waiver either. 381 00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:47,100 So I suspect both those two will probably end up being waved. 382 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:48,440 So it may just be the one hearing. 383 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,600 So an hour and a half probably would be sufficient. 384 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,760 I'm not sure what availability is that early for everybody. 385 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,640 But October 14th, 386 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:59,850 so work for you down. 387 00:37:00,790 --> 00:37:02,390 Wednesday, October 14th. 388 00:37:02,410 --> 00:37:04,590 Okay, and Mr. Assad. 389 00:37:09,350 --> 00:37:17,070 So our finance meetings at six would four o'clock for Board of Review work to give us an hour and a half if we need. 390 00:37:17,890 --> 00:37:19,190 Okay, 4 p.m. 391 00:37:19,810 --> 00:37:20,270 4 o'clock, 392 00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:25,150 10, 14. 393 00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:32,570 And that's, yep, that's Wednesday, October 14th in this room, room 100 Board of Review at 4 p.m. 394 00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:38,150 Okay, next. Thank you. 395 00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:44,070 Number 10, hear written objections properly filed with the City Clerk regarding property assessments. 396 00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:48,790 Okay, so we don't have anything tonight then. 397 00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:53,410 We've discussed everything that's been filed, so nothing to hear this evening. 398 00:37:55,740 --> 00:38:01,140 Number 11, discussion and decision about waving the 48-hour notice of intent for objections filed with good cause. 399 00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:01,280 Yes. 400 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:10,420 And at this time we don't have any people who have come forward to be heard after the 401 00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:16,080 deadline and we still would have until seven this evening if anyone was coming in, so nothing 402 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:16,940 at this point. 403 00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:17,340 Correct. 404 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,340 We have to wait just in case. 405 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,660 And then we'd have to take up that item if anyone was coming. 406 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:29,540 Number 12, discussion and decision regarding requests for waivers of border review hearing 407 00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:32,300 allowing the property owner and appeal directly to circuit court. 408 00:38:36,970 --> 00:38:37,290 Okay. 409 00:38:37,290 --> 00:38:45,130 Okay, so Wal-Mart did file requests for waivers, but I think we've already discussed their 410 00:38:45,130 --> 00:38:45,590 objection. 411 00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:48,830 So we wouldn't take action at this point. 412 00:38:48,850 --> 00:38:52,790 Yeah, the assessors indicated that they are withholding their position on whether they're 413 00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:54,870 going to oppose the waiver until the next hearing. 414 00:38:55,530 --> 00:38:59,050 There may be a subpoenaid as well, and I'm not sure if that's been decided, but- 415 00:39:02,410 --> 00:39:06,710 Number 13, discussion and decision regarding requests to testify by telephone or submit 416 00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:07,550 written statement. 417 00:39:08,190 --> 00:39:12,750 I believe Walmart also had filed a request to testify by telephone. 418 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:26,900 And number 14 discussion and decision regarding annual updates to the city of Greenfield border review rules and procedures manual. 419 00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:32,480 I don't think anyone has anything on that. 420 00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:33,000 I don't. 421 00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:39,840 Number 15, other matters properly before the board. 422 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,440 Nothing at this time, I think at this point, we just have to wait now. 423 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:57,320 We can't get to that last item until at least 7 o'clock because by state statute, we have to allow that to our period. 424 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,380 So do we stay on record or go off the record? 425 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,740 I think we lost record for that. 426 00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:06,960 Okay, so it is 5.47 pm. 427 00:40:07,420 --> 00:40:12,020 The board has taken care of its business items that they can at this point. 428 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:19,700 So we will go off the record, but the board will still be in session until 7 o'clock. 429 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,700 I'm just going to go back on the record. It's 6.16 pm. 430 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:38,360 Just want to go back on the record to say two things and then we'll go back off while we remain in session until a little after 7. 431 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,180 But I wanted to mention that Michael Breswell, 432 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:45,800 Our another member of our Board of Review is now present. 433 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,620 He was present at 6.14 pm, so he will be here until the end of the meeting. 434 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:58,140 And Attorney Chris Geary is going to be heading out because we finished most of our business. 435 00:40:58,180 --> 00:41:01,320 Now we're just waiting to see if anything comes in. 436 00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:08,120 So he will be leaving at 6.17 pm and we will now go back off the record and wait. 437 00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:21,960 55 p.m. Michael Braswell will be leaving at the 0.655 and we will I'm going to go off 438 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:27,240 the record and we will still be in session until 707, a minute to boot up. Okay, we're 439 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:32,560 on air. We're going back on the record. It is 708 p.m. 440 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,220 Number 11 discussion and decision about waving the 48 hour notice of intent for objections 441 00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:39,340 and filed with good cause. 442 00:41:40,220 --> 00:41:42,200 We were in session during this whole time 443 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,900 and we did not have anyone come in 444 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,360 to file objections with good cause. 445 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,240 Number 16, I'm gonna make a motion 446 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:52,200 to adjourn the meeting. 447 00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:54,480 I'll second. 448 00:41:59,690 --> 00:42:04,550 Oh, we're going to adjourn until October 14th at four 449 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:06,450 for our next board of review meeting. 450 00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:09,450 And that was a motion by Amanda O'Day, 451 00:42:10,030 --> 00:42:10,990 second by John Graber. 452 00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:14,470 Okay. All in favor? 453 00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:15,330 Aye. 454 00:42:16,030 --> 00:42:16,410 Opposed? 455 00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:16,710 Aye. 456 00:42:17,130 --> 00:42:17,230 Aye. 457 00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:19,030 Motion carries. 458 00:42:19,390 --> 00:42:23,050 We are adjourned until October 14th at 4. 459 00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:24,710 It is 7.09 p.m.