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for the opportunity to gather as a community, we pray your blessing upon proceedings

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of this evening, watch over and keep us as we continue to seek the best for those who we serve

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and those in our community.

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Rather, we just want to pause to acknowledge your presence in our lives,

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but thank you for your good and this increase,

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and the provisions that you have bestowed upon us as a people, as a nation,

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and Lord, we pray you continue to see upon each one.

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You ask for a press name.

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Thank you very much.

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All right, as the council will, and I will say,

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I'm sure you're right.

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The agenda will look for a motion to approve you again,

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and make a motion of a perfect agenda for you.

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There are some debt revisions as well.

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The police support is on the agenda.

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I don't know if we're going to have an informal report.

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So I'm from the police department and also the agenda states that you must be a resident

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or taxpayer or

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but there's other areas in the wardings that make that unclear.

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I'm not sure what that has to do with it.

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I have to look at that. I'm not sure if it's from that or it has directly. Oh, it has

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as residents of taxpayers of the town should have a reasonable opportunity to be heard in any way,

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which I think comes directly out of the charter.

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So I'm going to give my 10 minutes of my flight work.

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The police department is listed out there because we do have a primary varsity that's going to give an update.

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It wasn't clear about the smart base.

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Now please have a volunteer.

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here.

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There are any other questions about who you're doing?

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I think we have an emotional improvement down there.

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We can be exceptional.

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I've already seen a question.

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10 seconds.

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All in favor?

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Hi.

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Close.

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I'm attorney Stephen.

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I'm close to station.

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The mayor and council held a close station on July 16th.

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From 7 to 7.38 pm to discuss the personnel matter related to a specific individual in

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to a legal place on breach of the contract.

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I can also take a look at the approval of the men's

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from the July 16, 2020 process.

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Can you leave it to the rainy discussion

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for a majority of your revisions?

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Page five, paragraph from New Business,

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Greensboro Historical Society,

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donation repost, the record reflects

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Bill Schaffner.

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Should be Bill Schaffner.

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Thank you.

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I kind of like Bill.

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All right now, the privilege to approve the minutes from the July 16th reading with

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the corrections.

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On the second.

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On the second.

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All day long.

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Hi.

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Good.

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Terry Ferrin.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Thank you.

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I had a brief conversation with Cindy and Mary in the mail and there was a discussion about

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about the social, the sewer, serving, the time of the boats, and so in that conversation

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I said, well there may be other alternatives where it could be bolt as it was shared or

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built on regular usage. And so Cindy said, go ahead and send me an email. So I came back

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and I was going through the counties water sewer plan and it just I pulled together sort

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the synopsis of how did we get rid of the town of Greensboro's owning the goals for

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area, for service, for sewer, and just for background, I did work with USDA. I was

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a project that I worked on. And the firm that I'm working with now are going to pay with

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the engineering firm that worked with the design for the regional race water treatment plant

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and then the service area. So that's all that I kind of put together

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There's an area I didn't expect the annual dates to come to the town meeting.

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I appreciate it.

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I didn't know if anybody had any questions.

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And if you are interested in looking at potential maybe alternatives,

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I would be more than happy to do it as a courtesy to try to get, you know,

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a solution that works for anybody with regards to the town's sewering for golds,

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There at Talbot County has the St. Michael's Wastewater Treatment Plant that made

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her vine sewage throughout the county.

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The town of Guadana has a relationship with Kent County in the Georgetown area there

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where they, the county, did a collection of conveyance and then they pay a fee back to

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Guadana for the treatment of the wastewater.

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So there are different scenarios within close proximity that are other alternatives, and I do think that the primary reason that the relationship between ownership is originally it was North County, which was the County and the areas of Henderson Temple,

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with Jack Cuman, who worked with Maryland Department of Environment, and he had his spreadsheet.

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And in the spreadsheet, that tracked all of the money for the project to eventually service the entire area.

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EPA pulled out the amount of grant funding that was going to be provided for it,

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that would not give them the predictable amount of income.

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That's why the priority then became the time goals where they had a consent and a complete order.

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That's wouldn't likely, and I'm either bringing you with no, or maybe lending us why that then

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changed to the only one that was involved in it, which we've goals for, I agree, but

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I agree with you to ownership of the entire industry.

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But ownership could change, and you have any questions that you wouldn't have to answer

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it.

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But if there's some point in time, you want to maybe look at alternatives,

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you can start

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and then we've got the staff at the stadium and we've got the staff at the parking lot.

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All right, very good. Thank you very much.

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Okay, no problem. Thank you. Take care.

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I am tempted.

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Planning commission.

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So I want to give you an update.

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and they have made recommendations which I will breach up to legal for to get this.

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but they have requested three year moratorium on data centers, so hopefully we'll have that coming forth in the September meeting.

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They have also indicated that they want to design a new zoning regulation called a solar energy overlay district.

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And that would be for the availability of the municipality to put in solar panels out to the wastewater treatment plant that will assist in putting down that electric bill.

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So those are the recommendations. I'll be forwarding that to legal for them to draft a resolution

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ordinance. I'll just need it. I'm writing that to you in September. They also wanted

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to make the council aware that there'll be a public hearing on the comprehensive plan.

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We're just going for September the 28th. Once they have the public hearing through the planning

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commission, it will then be forwarded to the council for the council to review and set up

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another hearing to approve the final hot plan.

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I'm not sure if it's 6.30, but we'll definitely

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have. Are they going to have that here or? Yeah, here. All right, good questions. Right there.

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Now can you move on to the calendar? Thank you.

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The town is currently continuing to work on ECO. This

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has been a huge project. We've been working on this for almost a year trying to get all of our

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We have one last task that the town has to take a look at everything that they have put together and approve it.

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I'm hoping to have that done by the end of August so that then they can start uploading everything on site to the website.

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So there will be more updates on that hopefully in September.

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The town currently has made the negotiation for the new police chief, and of course, have the details.

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right now he is expected to start on September the 16th. He has graciously volunteered, free of charge to come in and organize our place department and get some things together, look at reporting and so forth, attend some much needed classes and so forth pretty much today.

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So I'll let him get his report on that.

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The fiscal year 20 for all of the documents now has been sent over to the auditors.

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There was one last thing that they asked us to look into, which was the fiscal year

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24 revenue that was posted into our billing system.

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We were able to work with MCSJ and get that report out to them last week.

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We are now working on fiscal year 25 getting this documents together.

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I have been told that our bank statements should be up-to-date by mid-next week.

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That means all the way up to July 26th, so at that point, as I stated in the email, I

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will produce a clean budget to actual report for you.

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Grant activity, Jamie Fowler, had worked with the State of Maryland Critical Area Commission

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and of course obtain another thousand dollars for us to be able to plant trees in the town.

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About community events, I want to remind everybody that the hometown hero flag

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campaign ends August 31st at 4 o'clock. So please get out what you should enter and know of

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anybody. This is our last campaign. So it's important for everybody to get that in. We would love to see

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as many lives honoring our veterans as we have.

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And then we have the annual car show.

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That's gonna be held on August the 29th from 12 to 4.

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All those proceeds benefit

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that brings real and youth basketball program.

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And our next scheduled meeting is September the 17th,

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here in Town Hall.

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I do have public works,

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branding is on vacation this week.

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Just to highlight the pay me of over 52,000 square feet

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road had started and it has been completed. The new Quasibo was installed at

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Curtis Party Park and of course they had the meaning with the Committee for

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Justice Sutton Park and I did have an update on this one.

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are waiting on some prices for some equipment. I know that the layer of

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sponge that goes down first cost about $92,000 so we are also looking at yet

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and another grant.

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So this will be a small portion of equipment

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that will go up for the sensory part,

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but then we're gonna be looking at additional grants

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to hold add on to that.

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I did want to elaborate that I have got a notice

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that our reserve account at Short United Bank

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was hacked into.

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So we've had to also add positive pay for that.

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Our credit cards were hacked, two of those were.

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So I had to close down all of our credit cards, which we've now gone with bill.com for our credit cards, which is like a

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debit card, so to see. And we've also instituted the bill processes through bill.com, which will add a letter of audit that

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requires the in-wispy edit. And then it's going to be verified by three separate people before it's paid. And then there's an audit bill that states all of that.

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and a lot of this team from a recommendation from our auditors as well as our county.

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I have also reached out to the auditors and the account and the CFA could provide me with a fee for fiscal year 23,

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fiscal year 24, fiscal year 25 to do a forensic audit.

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That audit would compromise anywhere between 100 to 200,000 dollars and

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It would also require the town to hire a full-time person to work with the accountants to get that done. There's no way the town could make that peaceful to pull somebody aside to get that done. So I had reached out to do different firms to see if we can get calls from that and not present that in September.

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I also wanted to address a concern that was brought to our attention by a resident that there was a Facebook post made about one of our public works drivers that had come to work on a Saturday.

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day, and to read the conversation was on his way home. He lived in Delaware. A picture

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was taken of Cal, and it stated that he was driving up to 70 miles an hour. The complaint

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came to me. I went into our GPS system, and I confirmed that he did no more than 50 to 55

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miles an hour. So I wanted to bring that attention because that 15-3 from the rest of

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I think he was on his way at home, but he had been in to do, he wasn't just out riding

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the wreck.

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No, he came in to bring for a went to goals, for a red the concessions and it was on his way

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home.

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And just so everybody knows, this has been brought up multiple times, but every town vehicle has the GPS system.

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I have ordered stickers to go on the back of the vehicle so that everyone knows that they are equipped with such.

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And if there's any concern, they can reach out. We can always check it to see what the speeds work.

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I'm just going to kindly like the messenger and give you kind of like a report of what's been going on since my retirement. I have been volunteering to come up here, believe it or not, I've been cleaning reorganizing some of the

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files and getting them up to speed. I've also been trying to complete some

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mandated statute bylaw documentations that have to be reported to the to the

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district court or to an atlas so that we're not on a hot list or we're

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looking like we're not doing anything. These things are from

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experiments. They can be from the safe or sexual assault kit requirements. They can be traffic,

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use of force. I'm preparing now the annual use of force report and gathering that data as well

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going through the systems, the data reports and any other documentation that I can find of use of

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force that had been done here in the Townic Range Road. So then I can prepare that report and send

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up so I'm not late or it's not late for the town of Greensboro. I want to announce a couple

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things that I've been working on. I do have a vision and in part of that vision I've been

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able to do some public speaking and talking to some individuals that are all about community

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service, and I have received a donation for the police department to start three significant

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things. The last time this town had the Explorer program was 26 years ago. Our young men and

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women deserve to go somewhere and learn about community service, public speaking, and understanding

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about what it is to work in the community.

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So by October the first week of October,

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you will see on Facebook and on our,

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hopefully in our webpage,

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the beginning and application for individuals

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to be part of the Explorer program.

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I also believe that the adults, the citizens,

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should have some insights on the police department

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and some of the functions.

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So I'm gonna start the first citizen,

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and police academy here in Greensboro, and I would hope that some of you here will

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assign and join. Meeting once a week for now, we're going to talk about police issues,

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police trends, things of that nature, how to budget, those things so you understand about

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the police department and how it's supposed to work, and how to become volunteers as well.

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Because I do need volunteers, okay? And the last thing I want to say to our community

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here I want you to get the word out you know just as well as I do that we have

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outstanding people in our community I want us to this year with your

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nomination you nominate the person to have the Greensboro citizen of the

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year for 2026 we have great people here let me tell you that people that have

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done hard work that continue to be productive members in our society okay they

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They might not work here, but they might work somewhere else, but their influence carries

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through out.

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So I'm asking you, if you can think about that as well in October, October is going

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to be pretty busy, but your nomination, and I'll tell you the criteria, it's pretty simple

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resident of the town, tell me why you nominate the person and who you are, okay?

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And then maybe we can come together as a committee and vote that person ourselves, okay?

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Now, with all the networking that I've been doing and I'm going to tell you right now,

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I've been able to raise a donation of $10,000 to do these programs.

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That's something that we're going to get back to the community.

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Those $10,000 are going to be used for the police department equipment,

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for the explorer program, for the citizen police academy

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and for the citizen of the year, 2026, I promise you that I am going to do the best job I possibly can before you.

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Now, along that, I was selected by the FBI leader course for committee to attend a course in Shippingsburg P.A.

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to be certified as an internal affairs investigator through the FBI.

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I am proud that I completed that course, and when the importance of it is now, as other

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departments have assisted us, when we needed help, now I'm certified to help them in

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internal affairs matters, should they ever need it?

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Because again, we can't do this by ourselves, and I attempted the study of terrorism on Tuesday

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of this week, I attended the Study of Terrorism and the Responsive Terrorism and not a lot

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of information that I want to use to secure some of the facilities here, okay? And on my

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way back, and I talked about the Explorer program, I stopped by Under Armour to talk to their

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manager to see if they can give us some free outfits for our children because part of

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use for program is fitness. I now have to write a letter and not educated, but I took

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some of the shirts and some of the shorts. Our colors seem to be silver and green. So

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I got some gray shorts and I got a nice green shirt and I've taken pictures and when I

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send my letter up to the headquarters up in Baltimore for underarmor for their community

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partnership unit. I'm asking for them to donate some of that stuff to us as

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well. I want to make a difference. That's what I want to make. I want to be your

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chief of police next month. I would love to have your support.

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That's all I

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have to say. Thank you.

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We also got a complaint from the

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citizen recently about the mark.

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Mark's police car being out of town.

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is when we don't have a police department,

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Mr. Gaurashi is volunteering his time for us and I thought the least we could do as the community is, the town's allowing to use the police car when he is doing things for the police department. That's why you were in police town on that day where you're not?

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Yes ma'am, don't work for the police.

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Yes sir.

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So if you see the police car out of the valve and Mr. Garcia is in,

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he has our information to be in that car.

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When it's just supposed to be a case to be transparent.

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I'm not going to stop talking.

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I don't care.

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You need to stop talking.

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I'm not going to stop talking.

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You can leave.

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I'm not going to leave.

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All right.

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Wait for the comment.

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You know you can't talk about it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Lindsay.

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I'll obey you.

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I appreciate it.

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I wanted to add one more thing, we did reach out to Legit, our insurance company, and verify

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that this was approved for a volunteer to use it at his stature, and they approved it.

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I think a lot of the break down that happens in this town, and I feel like it's been a

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thing for years, this communication, and it's still an issue.

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I feel like just putting things out there and being transparent instead of the cloaked

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dagger and making people come up with their own ideals about what's going on.

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It doesn't lead to a bad path especially where the trust has been breached repeatedly.

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There's no confidence and I'm not putting that on you.

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I'm just saying that this is something that's been a ongoing problem for a lot of years.

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And like Mr. Mason said, I feel like just communicating things would put a lot of things

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into it instead of holding.

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Well the talent may be able to improve on its getting information out, but it doesn't

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help when you have people constantly putting out this information about the talent.

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That's an administrative decision.

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She has the authority to make that decision also.

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All right.

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Moving on to the comment.

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Okay.

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Question.

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I'm sorry.

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So, the speaker.

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Camera capture about.

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Or a 7-game bottle.

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Can't hear you.

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Can't hear you.

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I said with the speaker.

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camera. It says a capture 475. It said they approved 404, which means the image was clear

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or whatever. And we only approved 318. Is there a separate criteria for us versus them?

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So during the time that I was able to be trained on that, there was like a two-week process

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where we lost that. Let's do head to have someone train to do that, so that's probably fine.

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I'm going to work in the course system to rectify that situation, Dave, thank you very

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much.

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You're getting extra time now.

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After time?

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Well, thank you.

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I appreciate that.

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I forgot.

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So, we'll move on from that because that's going to be a lawyer thing eventually and so forth

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like that.

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I probably assume you personally.

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It's a violation of our personal rights.

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Technically, hopefully, you'll see that that would be your first, maybe your rest is how he

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violates his oath of office and people's constitutional rights.

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And you've got to prove it.

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I'd like to give it to you.

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All right.

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Secondly, so the last meeting, there was a person that came up here, a public person that

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came up here and made some rather incorrect disinformation

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comments about our Facebook page.

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So let me clarify some shit.

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So you guys went through this individual went through

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and said that somebody served with honor and dignity

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and all this BS with the town.

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Well, what I have a problem with is they're

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coming at Kim, braiding her because of a Facebook post.

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But all you guys were silent. Did you forget that this person was suspended in 2024?

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Why was this person suspended? Why go ahead of waiting? Why was he suspended using company

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Vehicles and stuff to go see somebody using a town program to go see a mistress and so forth and you want to talk about truth

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Honor justice. I served the fucking town and not one of you guys said one thing and you and Linux went through and it wasn't

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suspended them. So how about this, this person who followed us against me, I will

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call it Desire and Linux as witnesses, and we can put it on public record for

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the news media. But it's really sad that you guys go through, you are silent when

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it's convenient for you. That's what pisses me on about you guys. Whenever it's

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convenient for you, that's when you guys don't want to say nothing. But yeah, you'll

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sit there and let somebody come up here and beretta a council member, which by the

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Way 90 guys have her back in the community knows it and that's gonna be your freaking downfall 100%

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100% you know, I kind of expected it. Maybe you live out of Pete

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You know you stuck up there for a year or so you were doing really really damn good

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I thought you know it's one of those guys like you know he's pretty stand up and check and then you don't say nothing

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Joe, I don't know what the fuck's going on with you like being truthful and honestly

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I thought you gotta have Kim's back. I mean you see right through this BS

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I know you do. You just don't want to say nothing. You're tired of the BS, tired of being

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operated, tired of the disinformation, the mayor likes to call it. But the problem is,

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it's not disinformation. You know it's not disinformation. There's always a truth to everything

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that's being said. You just don't like it. You don't like the Facebook that you don't

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like people calling you on in your bullshit. That's the problem with you.

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Right? You don't have to say nothing. Your face says a thousand words. So that's all I got to say. Got 15 seconds left. Don't worry. Keep laughing. I'm glad you think this is funny because there's only one way for you to go down and that's down. You can't go up. You can't go on higher. Just remember that. And like I said, every door tag today is a door tag for you tomorrow. Thank you. And I timed that person back. Oh, good.

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I

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don't hear to serve three of yours of standing citizens as I call her so Chris Mason I

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can't begin your own problem pause. I ain't I ain't brained you could run your mouth over

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place but I ain't brained pot pot pot shop.

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Yeah let's go back to comment. Go back to

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comment to

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cease and to sit because nobody can talk about me. Chris let me talk about the

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can't watch and you're trying okay you know you guys talk about what these

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guys do she does these guys do I'm

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brain

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Don't call.

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Come back, come back.

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You're dumb.

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Let's keep on doing what you've got to make back.

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It's so tough.ienenal,

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this is no good right now.

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So we didn't

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put those on this for years and

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I can't

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take too much of it anymore. You know, we

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were at elected Fistals, right? The Commission if Tim

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asked for some paperwork from the talent manager,

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she's going to get it

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When she is on the board, from when she was on the board, from now she should get the paperwork and put in no charge, right?

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Anything before she was on the board, she should get charged for.

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She has.

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Period, right?

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Oh, right.

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I understand, but I'm trying to cut this out here because I'm trying to talk about this.

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My phone goes off all week long about these emails.

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It's like a power trip between two people here.

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That's what it feels like.

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It doesn't need anything.

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but that's what it is. I didn't get this paper. I gave it to you. No, I didn't. Yes, I did. Yes, boom, that's that.

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This is getting old. I'm Joe Noon.

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The town of Greensboro, Botany, and I don't care if you don't like me or not.

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I'm going to vote for how I feel is right.

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And that's all I have to say. Thank you.

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Mayor, if I may say there's a request to ensure that anybody's speaking is a

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Tax paying individual for the town. There's been a request to ask if Mr. Cain have to means that criteria

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I'll leave that to you

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If he does not live in town, he can ask him. He'll be just going over that

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That's cool

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right

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This man come in and told me to shut my mouth.

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No.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Everyone, there's a meeting.

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If you don't like it, you don't want it.

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Okay.

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Stop.

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Sir.

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It makes me.

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Sir.

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Please.

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Please stop.

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Ma'am, you're disrupting the meeting now.

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I don't really want to hear you.

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Okay.

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Well, you can stop.

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Or you can leave the meeting.

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If the meeting is conducted, that's it.

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This right now, I don't want to shut my mouth.

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I don't want to hear you.

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I don't want to hear you.

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You're now disrupting the meeting.

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You instructed them to have me step out, if you're not going to step out, I just said that before.

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One more word, I'm going to have you.

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Yes, sir.

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You know what I feel about you.

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There you go.

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Good night, sir.

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Have a nice smile.

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You'll have my feelings.

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Real soon.

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It's going to be that lady over there.

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Good night.

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I'll be talking to you, Gordon.

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See, I have a free information pack on the man named Brandon.

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And I think you were actually investigating me.

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Is that not correct?

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Sir, we are trying to know who you are.

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So I have three.

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I appreciate your service.

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Is there anyone else hiding that wants to come out

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and have a show or a spectacle?

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It's been too long.

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My second home meeting I've ever going to.

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I've got a wife.

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I can't believe him at all.

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I'm sorry

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that you all have to go through all that.

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I'm sorry that we have to go.

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to go through something like this. I see all the horrible stuff that's put on Facebook. Yeah,

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I belong to that group so I can see what people were saying, but it's horrible. And if you disagree

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with them, talk about transparency. They just throw you off. You're not allowed to be on it anymore.

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I could throw it off once. I was able to get back off after tonight. I don't probably be thrown off

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because it's such garbage and you talking about transparency and people.

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That works two ways.

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You have not to start being positive about this town

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and stop looking for all the dirt.

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There are good people here. These guys have worked here for how many years?

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They want what's best for this town. I trust them. I have for years.

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There's no reason not to. But then you get new people coming into town

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And all this, oh, it's just absolutely horrible, horrible.

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Before all that happened, I wanted to thank you for violent,

464
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,780
that wasn't on my list, but it's worth it to take my time

465
00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:47,060
to say thank you for using your time for volunteering,

466
00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:50,780
for having a vision for this town, and being so positive.

467
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,360
I wasn't going to ask about the ordinances

468
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,940
because I have spent so much time looking them up online.

469
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:59,520
So thank you for working and getting all that in one place.

470
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,640
but what I was going to talk to was about the code.

471
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:10,840
And there's simply my opinion about the water, the door hangers

472
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,660
for the water bills.

473
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,060
I don't think the town should recap to remind us residents

474
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:18,660
that the water bill is too per leaked.

475
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,100
It's a nice idea, but it's unnecessary expense.

476
00:38:22,780 --> 00:38:25,980
And from what I gather, it's not appreciated anyway.

477
00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:33,620
The due date is on the bill, the town's page, the Facebook page, there's a 14-day grace period.

478
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:41,140
There's a reason to warn people if they're coming to a cutoff date and you want to send them a notice,

479
00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:47,520
that should be optional, but do it through email because it's too expensive to do it through the postal service.

480
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:56,280
I have a lot written about that too but basically it's why don't we just wait until there

481
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:03,420
are complaints, let people in town complain that way it's the citizens that are initiating

482
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:05,520
the code enforcement.

483
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:13,360
I think a outsourcing for code enforcement is a horrible idea, you're adding a salary

484
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:20,680
so you'll have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to go out and find the

485
00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:28,200
violations. They can keep their job and look at what happened to Greensford about cross some Greensford

486
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:34,820
or supply, what did that end up costing and how long did that take. You know it's not worth the time

487
00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:40,700
that we've spent on these violations and code enforcement and all like that and again I'm so sorry

488
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:49,440
that you all have time to put up with what you do and how the people at this, it's horrible, I'd like you to pass it more.

489
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:57,770
I declined because I'm not a citizen of this town, so go ahead and go to the next person.

490
00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:05,450
Are you going to attack the mayor?

491
00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:14,230
I'm not quite sure. I've said I could be a resident and a tax player by the town of the town of the town.

492
00:40:14,230 --> 00:40:17,410
I'm outside police process.

493
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:28,100
I

494
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:41,090
don't think I know being outside of it.

495
00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:43,990
Not my cup of tea.

496
00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:49,170
I just wanted to mention about the upcoming code ordinance.

497
00:40:49,470 --> 00:40:57,430
I agree with Ms. Donna that if there is administrative assistant or code enforcement that we're pitching

498
00:40:57,430 --> 00:41:04,230
for, again, the biggest concern is budgeting. Our budget was already voted on, and where

499
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:09,290
is the money going to come from. I mean, I can speculate and say it's from the money

500
00:41:09,290 --> 00:41:15,390
that we allocated here or there, but it's really worth the money going to come from in

501
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:17,110
order to pay for those positions.

502
00:41:19,570 --> 00:41:24,170
Ms. Clay, I am saddened to see you so upset. Unfortunately,

503
00:41:24,170 --> 00:41:28,510
that the Facebook page has given people a place to vent.

504
00:41:29,310 --> 00:41:31,190
And it's not always negative.

505
00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:34,630
I do see where Kim tries to be extremely thorough

506
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:38,090
and sometimes writes like six pages worth of information.

507
00:41:38,910 --> 00:41:41,870
It's just people choose to pick and choose what they see out of it.

508
00:41:42,490 --> 00:41:43,510
They don't read the whole thing

509
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:45,230
and then they take it wrong with it.

510
00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:48,110
You have those kinds of negative people on every page

511
00:41:48,730 --> 00:41:52,830
and the transparency is always been an issue with our town

512
00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:56,150
where they will speculate if they do not have the information.

513
00:41:56,610 --> 00:42:00,010
So I understand that the town manager has the ability

514
00:42:00,010 --> 00:42:02,370
to make calls, make judgments.

515
00:42:03,110 --> 00:42:05,810
But if anybody wants to speculate,

516
00:42:06,110 --> 00:42:07,750
they're going to speculate whether it's on Facebook,

517
00:42:08,070 --> 00:42:10,270
whether it's through their phone, to their bestie,

518
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:11,730
just like we used to do.

519
00:42:11,950 --> 00:42:14,310
My aunt would love to just call up her sister

520
00:42:14,310 --> 00:42:17,350
and say, guess what, I just saw a car, and it was a cop car.

521
00:42:17,650 --> 00:42:19,010
And we don't have any cops in town.

522
00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:20,110
I wonder what they're doing.

523
00:42:20,410 --> 00:42:22,050
That's how they used to do with being done

524
00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:26,850
on Facebook and that. It's the same thing. It doesn't mean that it's just that

525
00:42:26,850 --> 00:42:31,650
Facebook group. It's just that's the only place to vent as questions and things

526
00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:36,990
are being hashed out from a counsel that was here many moons ago and we're still

527
00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:42,570
trying to fix it. So it's it's just a big pot of mess and I'm sorry to see you so

528
00:42:42,570 --> 00:42:47,990
upset but I promise it not everybody on that page is out to just get everybody.

529
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:53,650
That being said, I wanted to address and ask about solicitors.

530
00:42:54,510 --> 00:42:56,390
I was seeing that on that page.

531
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:57,610
They're getting aggressive.

532
00:42:58,570 --> 00:43:00,310
We don't have police right now.

533
00:43:00,430 --> 00:43:06,250
We don't want to waste the state's police force, the county's police force by calling

534
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:07,130
about a solicitor.

535
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:11,370
But one, apparently, was a little aggressive today and kicked somebody's ceramic gnome right

536
00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:11,630
off.

537
00:43:12,510 --> 00:43:14,490
There's been two in the past week.

538
00:43:14,490 --> 00:43:20,070
you know what they were kind of they say something different every time this

539
00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:28,730
one was I have to be home that was two weeks ago that was two weeks ago I

540
00:43:28,730 --> 00:43:35,270
have one today yes you've got to cut it on your bill and a

541
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:40,850
double power pest control has little kids on sideways but there's another one

542
00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:42,750
They're getting around it by saying they're serving.

543
00:43:42,830 --> 00:43:45,030
We've got to find it so we may be getting help from it.

544
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:45,410
Right.

545
00:43:45,770 --> 00:43:47,290
We're asking them if they have permits.

546
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:49,830
They're saying they don't have to because it's a survey.

547
00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:52,710
But it's getting a little bit more aggressive.

548
00:43:53,010 --> 00:43:55,830
So if they're, we don't want to waste the police time,

549
00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:57,730
but we just need you, something else,

550
00:43:57,870 --> 00:43:58,530
what that we could do.

551
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:59,070
Thank you.

552
00:43:59,330 --> 00:43:59,590
Thank you.

553
00:44:00,390 --> 00:44:01,150
Thank you, Chef.

554
00:44:02,990 --> 00:44:03,650
Ms. Bill?

555
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:04,590
All right.

556
00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:10,790
Bill, Chef, you're two-throwed-staffed.

557
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:12,210
street where you're going now.

558
00:44:12,830 --> 00:44:18,150
Man, I don't know who you are, but I am sorry that you had to see what you saw.

559
00:44:18,330 --> 00:44:21,010
The meetings have not normally been like this.

560
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:26,430
This is a new occasion, a new occurrence in the last several years.

561
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:27,710
Just the luxury dose.

562
00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:29,710
If you come back, it'll get better.

563
00:44:30,070 --> 00:44:30,770
I would look.

564
00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:39,050
Can I appreciate your efforts, but you're too negative, and I think you could do better.

565
00:44:39,290 --> 00:44:40,270
I know you can do better.

566
00:44:40,270 --> 00:44:50,430
I appreciate the work you do. It's a lot. I appreciate it, but there's more negativity in this panel today than I've seen in the 4 or 7 years over this year.

567
00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:53,730
The people are getting.

568
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:28,980
Carped about, complained about, a lot of the people that are a little bit new here, have no idea how many hours have been spent with the little lady, with youth soccer, with wrestling, with challenges led, with fishing derbys, with all of the events that they've helped with whether they were on the council or not. And it's time we quit.

569
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,880
being so down on everybody in the town that it's not building anything up, it's not

570
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,860
helping a thing.

571
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,180
I feel like you do almost like I didn't want to speak.

572
00:45:43,420 --> 00:45:45,520
That's not how we should feel here.

573
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,180
And so, you can help that.

574
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:50,160
I know you can't.

575
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,080
I've been trying to post other than...

576
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Yes, you have.

577
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,960
And I've noticed that, so that's why I'm appealing to you.

578
00:45:59,420 --> 00:46:02,440
It's typical when you're dealing with things day in and day out

579
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:10,860
to not be, not share everything you can because...

580
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:13,980
But this wasn't the way it was.

581
00:46:14,740 --> 00:46:16,920
Not too many years back.

582
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:19,600
Things have changed.

583
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:20,960
Something's broken.

584
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,480
I believe we've got good help.

585
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,820
with a new police chief. I believe the council can help.

586
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,500
Chris does not help. He hurts the town.

587
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,260
I don't think he knows that. I think he wants to help the town.

588
00:46:40,420 --> 00:46:43,440
Good enough now. So I don't know how to work with that yet.

589
00:46:43,580 --> 00:46:45,920
I'm working on that. I'm going to try to figure that out.

590
00:46:46,460 --> 00:46:49,280
But we're not like we are better than this.

591
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,420
Better than this.

592
00:46:53,580 --> 00:46:58,420
So, quick ends of stinking negative, start finding a positive thing once in a while

593
00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:01,380
approach if you like it, go on Facebook and do that stuff.

594
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,420
Well, we've got to get over this, or we're going to hurt ourselves.

595
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,660
And we're just shooting ourselves in a foot.

596
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,240
I believe it's coming.

597
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:10,340
I believe it's coming.

598
00:47:10,420 --> 00:47:10,980
Well, we'll see.

599
00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:11,900
I hope you're right.

600
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:22,220
Well, thank you all for the thing.

601
00:47:24,620 --> 00:47:25,600
I don't think anything happened.

602
00:47:40,270 --> 00:47:48,290
So this would allow an area measuring 60 by 60 on top of the tons water tower to allow

603
00:47:48,290 --> 00:47:55,400
I'll talk to you to place transmission and reception services on top of the tower.

604
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,460
We have a similar agreement with AT&T for use of space on the tower.

605
00:48:00,020 --> 00:48:03,760
What this requires is the only stay within the big five, six-foot area.

606
00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:08,200
They have to not impact the integrity of the top flotter tower.

607
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,440
They have to have the appropriate professionals installed the equipment.

608
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:17,760
It has to be removed and the property restored when the term of this agreement is over.

609
00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:24,100
either party can provide 30 days notice to terminate it is for one year which automatically

610
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:30,420
we're doing years the town will be receiving $1,000 per month in exchange for authorizing

611
00:48:30,420 --> 00:48:36,560
the placement of this equipment on top of the tower and there's

612
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:41,560
multiple towers.

613
00:48:56,700 --> 00:49:02,560
So what we have done in the past and what we did with AT&T is we had a separate engineer review

614
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,920
the equipment to make sure not only was it going to impact their transition but also

615
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,420
that wasn't going to impact the integrity of the tower because what we all want is

616
00:49:10,420 --> 00:49:13,780
there's so much equipment up there that it ends up being too heavy for the tower.

617
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,700
And that's required that if you have any of those reviews conducted they have to pay

618
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:20,700
the cost of that.

619
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:28,740
So I made a lot of indications on this that I just need to be sure.

620
00:49:30,660 --> 00:49:37,420
The least from what I'm reading is effective and definite in automatically reduced for 10 years.

621
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:13,840
Yeah, so it does not have anything to do, but it can be terminated by the landlord or

622
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,040
So the way this is drawn is $1,000 per month.

623
00:50:16,180 --> 00:50:17,220
Do you want to spend a gauge month?

624
00:50:17,340 --> 00:50:20,460
And then there's the annual increase of 3% each year

625
00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:22,160
on the anniversary of February and February.

626
00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:24,060
But if it is annually, we do.

627
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:25,220
Yeah, that's fine.

628
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,080
I mean, that's a good amount.

629
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:27,200
Yeah, good.

630
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,360
I found my notes.

631
00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:33,540
So the thousand annual and actually, is that fair market value?

632
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,360
High research.

633
00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:39,120
I don't know that, but yeah, that can be research.

634
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,220
OK, we do.

635
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:40,800
We do.

636
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:42,160
OK, yes.

637
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:54,480
We went back and we looked at what we had to currently be at least up there and how much space there had to be taken, and that's how they come up with a factor in a thousand dollars per water transfer for a month.

638
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,120
In fact, they had to be negotiated with the election place.

639
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,880
And then we have protection in the water tower.

640
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,180
It's not an ordinary piece of the noticeable property, it's all drinking water in the structure.

641
00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:17,980
The agreement doesn't prohibit interference and make talking responsible for damage or rising from a juice.

642
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:25,600
So it does have tenet warrants installation and all work by or for it out of the property.

643
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:30,560
So it calls no damage to the least premises which can be the tower or the property or a person.

644
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,240
and 10-inch all identified, protect, defend and hold harmless town from and against all

645
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:35,600
damage.

646
00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:40,520
So if there is damage from the use of the tower, they would have to defend it and

647
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,780
identify the town and then they would be responsible for the repair of it.

648
00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:48,180
And we're having a separate company maintaining the water counter itself, right, payment and all

649
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:48,420
that.

650
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:48,680
Yes.

651
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:49,620
Okay.

652
00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:57,180
So who's temperate is talking responsible for coming out and relocating the equipment while

653
00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:58,300
the maintenance is being done?

654
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:01,480
Or are they going to offer us somebody to remove their equipment?

655
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:07,140
So what I have seen in the past is generally they authorize somebody else, but it has to

656
00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:11,360
be someone that's qualified, obviously, to get on the tower ever in a bit.

657
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,120
Plus the maintenance people that power maintenance contract right now, we've said everything

658
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,740
over to them so they're made aware of it, and a lot of times they will show up.

659
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:30,690
Yeah, so there is one, the tenants access to the least premises must provide qualified individuals

660
00:52:30,690 --> 00:52:35,690
was provided in their responsible for providing an individual

661
00:52:35,690 --> 00:52:40,070
and any damages to the town caused by use of the tower

662
00:52:40,070 --> 00:52:42,150
and how things against the town could cost

663
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:43,830
to depend if the town were.

664
00:52:44,290 --> 00:52:47,610
If, for example, there were a contamination of water,

665
00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:50,130
I don't see the happening, but as soon

666
00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:51,410
that happened and then some were probably

667
00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:54,330
claiming it's a town for contamination of water

668
00:52:54,330 --> 00:52:57,150
because of this cell tower they would have to pay the town

669
00:52:57,150 --> 00:52:58,430
to depend on that action.

670
00:53:00,940 --> 00:53:01,280
Thank you.

671
00:53:12,540 --> 00:53:16,540
I'll make that motion to be doing improvement in power at least agreement with coffee.

672
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,880
Zero second.

673
00:53:18,340 --> 00:53:18,760
Oh second.

674
00:53:20,020 --> 00:53:22,000
All day we're seeing if the bus ain't got it.

675
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:22,360
Aye.

676
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,040
Food.

677
00:53:32,380 --> 00:53:34,380
I have the next agenda item too.

678
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:36,380
Okay.

679
00:53:36,740 --> 00:53:37,120
If you're ready.

680
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:37,880
I am ready.

681
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:38,320
Okay.

682
00:53:38,860 --> 00:53:42,440
So this is a public works agreement between Caroline County and the town of

683
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,340
Greensboro for a sentient of municipal sewer services. This was discussed by

684
00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:49,960
you all at a prior meeting.

685
00:53:53,310 --> 00:53:55,390
What's your last word for this?

686
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:57,210
No, it's your name.

687
00:53:58,810 --> 00:54:00,190
I think it's my name.

688
00:54:01,170 --> 00:54:02,430
You're free to do so.

689
00:54:03,870 --> 00:54:05,450
I'm sorry, which one are you in now?

690
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:08,750
Um, the public works agreement under all of business.

691
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:14,050
This is the moment we have discussed, so the moment we're back in Newark, we're all on

692
00:54:14,050 --> 00:54:15,230
as we move forward.

693
00:54:15,630 --> 00:54:22,570
Yeah, so it's for extension, about a year, maybe two ago, the town entering into a shared

694
00:54:22,570 --> 00:54:27,390
road agreement for the County Board of the North Park, some of it's called the North

695
00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:28,490
County Board.

696
00:54:28,850 --> 00:54:33,230
For the North County Park extension, which required the County to be responsible for

697
00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:35,550
for certain parts of the town road,

698
00:54:35,710 --> 00:54:36,930
which goes to the wastewater area.

699
00:54:37,650 --> 00:54:40,070
As an extension of that, they are now seeking

700
00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:43,450
a public works agreement for extension of water and sewer

701
00:54:43,450 --> 00:54:49,910
to a facility at the North County Park for public restrooms.

702
00:54:51,130 --> 00:54:55,530
So, you all have approved this agreement

703
00:54:55,530 --> 00:54:59,690
at a prior meeting, there was some confusion between,

704
00:54:59,690 --> 00:55:06,510
in I think the town and the county and we thought that it was a final agreement but it hadn't

705
00:55:06,510 --> 00:55:13,250
gone to the county yet and so they came back with it with some amendments and they really

706
00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:18,290
just planned our final amendments and what they added to the agreement was that the town

707
00:55:18,290 --> 00:55:22,750
include that the town has sufficient capacity to connect the project for purposes that

708
00:55:22,750 --> 00:55:26,390
in the agreement, which is obviously blood, or you wouldn't have approved the agreement.

709
00:55:28,050 --> 00:55:32,490
The town will be responsible for providing sufficient collection of treatment capacity

710
00:55:32,490 --> 00:55:37,930
and obtain and maintain all required government approval to accept the waste water, which you

711
00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:43,850
already have, added that the county will be billed for waste water service on a quarterly

712
00:55:43,850 --> 00:55:44,350
basis.

713
00:55:44,910 --> 00:55:49,510
The language they added was at the same rate and charges imposed on similarly situated

714
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:58,480
users and in the inspection review and approval, they added that the town

715
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,260
acknowledges the times of the essence, essentially, so that we can't drag our

716
00:56:02,260 --> 00:56:06,180
feet when we're doing any of their requests for approval for the sewer line.

717
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,580
And then upon completion of construction of the improvements, the town will have

718
00:56:11,580 --> 00:56:17,100
30 days to provide written acceptance of the project or a punch list and that our

719
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:23,620
acceptance of their permits may not be unreasonably with help. So again, really all Stanford practices.

720
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:29,020
And one of the other things I think is that some of the council members, one of the recent

721
00:56:29,020 --> 00:56:33,680
statements that they were only using one EDU, which is between an end of the contract.

722
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:37,020
So we want to make sure that we're right.

723
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,420
Yeah, I saw that. And that did go to the Carolina County Commissioners, they have approved it and signed it.

724
00:56:43,420 --> 00:56:43,500
Yeah.

725
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,220
So are they being billed at commercial rate for the schools, or are they being billed at

726
00:56:48,220 --> 00:56:48,560
residential?

727
00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:53,220
They are being billed with the goals for all the silver properties that you need.

728
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,400
Well, and that's on my fingers.

729
00:56:58,780 --> 00:56:59,700
Any other questions?

730
00:57:01,380 --> 00:57:05,360
And I will look for a motion to prove this agreement.

731
00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:07,320
I'll make a motion.

732
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,040
I'll make a motion.

733
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:10,460
All right.

734
00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:11,560
I'll say it in a second.

735
00:57:34,770 --> 00:57:40,330
So this is just going to update two that's actually going to update one fee schedule and

736
00:57:40,330 --> 00:57:41,510
introduce the new one.

737
00:57:41,850 --> 00:57:46,950
So you all had approved the Dredging Permit for anybody that's going to be coming into

738
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:49,390
down dating or worrying or trenching.

739
00:57:49,970 --> 00:57:52,570
We never set the rate on that, and I think in the past,

740
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:55,910
meaning we decided we were going to do $25 per permit.

741
00:57:56,430 --> 00:57:59,890
So it's updating this to a new fee of $25

742
00:57:59,890 --> 00:58:01,090
for the Dredge Permit.

743
00:58:01,490 --> 00:58:05,090
And then we are looking to revise the rental inspection fee

744
00:58:05,090 --> 00:58:10,850
for $125 to $200, this will cover the cost of our MDIA coming out

745
00:58:10,850 --> 00:58:13,350
and doing the right-on-spections in blue of the team.

746
00:58:14,070 --> 00:58:14,750
All

747
00:58:18,370 --> 00:58:22,550
right. Any further discussion? Any questions about this resolution?

748
00:58:23,110 --> 00:58:23,250
Yep.

749
00:58:24,250 --> 00:58:28,890
And then I have a motion to approve resolution 2026-R.

750
00:58:29,150 --> 00:58:32,490
I show you two a resolution of the Mayor and Council of Greengrove,

751
00:58:33,010 --> 00:58:38,870
meeting the counties scheduled for to increase fees for certain services provided by the mayor.

752
00:58:40,530 --> 00:58:44,950
I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2026-R-R2.

753
00:58:45,370 --> 00:58:45,990
Is your second?

754
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:49,810
Okay, thank you all in favor of seeing if I'm not saying hi.

755
00:58:50,290 --> 00:58:50,510
Hi.

756
00:58:50,990 --> 00:58:51,290
I'm Tony.

757
00:58:52,130 --> 00:58:54,950
I have an ask each of you to sign this with your name.

758
00:58:57,630 --> 00:58:57,790
All right.

759
00:58:58,010 --> 00:59:02,750
I'm going to move on to 2026 resolution R3, a resolution

760
00:59:02,750 --> 00:59:05,730
of the talent dream for dumping and preventing the talent

761
00:59:05,730 --> 00:59:06,990
agenda in the media policy.

762
00:59:08,650 --> 00:59:11,510
So I'm just going to add something quickly just

763
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:12,550
for consideration.

764
00:59:13,630 --> 00:59:16,930
I have like 30 different versions of this policy

765
00:59:16,930 --> 00:59:27,530
in my email and on my computer and sometimes red lines and some doesn't and there's been different resolutions and different guidelines of policies that went with it.

766
00:59:28,050 --> 00:59:43,950
I can no longer tell what was adopted and what edits anyone's requesting and so what I think the best thing to do would be to remove this and come forth at the next meeting with something else and just start over.

767
00:59:52,410 --> 00:59:58,750
I think there were different variations, I think there were, and I do apologize for that but I think at this point

768
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:16,380
I think to do it just to promote it, sorry, okay. We also have the policy, and then we have the guidelines to be handed out. Yeah, they don't, well, and they all got elected. So, yeah. Let's get to the end. Yeah. All right. So will somebody make the motion to vote?

769
01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:38,080
You get to read both the actual line.

770
01:00:40,740 --> 01:00:43,620
Right, it has three adopted a freeze on the agenda.

771
01:00:43,620 --> 01:00:49,320
So I think you just wrote about the existing town agenda.

772
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,860
In this time, in 2026 stage, R-21, OK.

773
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,760
And I got the sign signature on it.

774
01:00:55,780 --> 01:00:56,840
So that's all we want to do.

775
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:57,880
All right.

776
01:00:57,940 --> 01:01:00,060
We'd like to defend you for a minute, but I'm going to make you

777
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:01,200
agree with the 2026.

778
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:02,500
2026?

779
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:03,140
Yes.

780
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,320
R-21.

781
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:04,980
Oh, well.

782
01:01:04,980 --> 01:01:05,020
Oh, well.

783
01:01:05,860 --> 01:01:06,360
All right.

784
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:06,920
Good.

785
01:01:06,980 --> 01:01:07,260
That's it.

786
01:01:07,780 --> 01:01:08,100
All right.

787
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:14,500
The motion in the second on the floor to send resolution 2026 cash for that's for one.

788
01:01:14,660 --> 01:01:20,920
So what happens to three then because one preceded it three just I think three this goes away and we start over.

789
01:01:21,260 --> 01:01:22,860
Right. We're just preventing you know.

790
01:01:23,060 --> 01:01:28,860
And you're not even going to so our three would be available to adopt this evening.

791
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,500
If you wanted to but you're just not going to act on it and we'll do away with it.

792
01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:37,400
I would you call the roll, please, thank you very much.

793
01:01:38,380 --> 01:01:39,220
Mr. Hermes?

794
01:01:39,740 --> 01:01:40,220
Yes.

795
01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:41,340
Mr. Nune?

796
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:41,860
Yes.

797
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:42,620
Mr. Harrison?

798
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:43,120
Yes.

799
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:43,780
Mr. Bronya?

800
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:44,180
Yes.

801
01:01:44,420 --> 01:01:44,660
Thank you.

802
01:01:45,260 --> 01:01:46,000
All right, thank you.

803
01:01:46,660 --> 01:01:54,100
I move now to the wardage, 2026-2-9, which is in order to the town of Greenberg to repeal

804
01:01:54,100 --> 01:02:00,440
and replace the Greenberg town code, chapter 5, titled Occupancy Parments to clarify

805
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:16,380
So when we were looking at some of the home sales going on said this was an already existing

806
01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:17,340
home and it sold.

807
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:23,600
The policy was requiring us, so the townhood was requiring them to have a home in section

808
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,640
before they could move in.

809
01:02:25,980 --> 01:02:30,920
When we checked with other agencies and other towns, this was something that was never done.

810
01:02:31,420 --> 01:02:35,980
You have to have an occupancy to move in to a new home being built, but not a home that's

811
01:02:35,980 --> 01:02:38,460
already been in existing and been living in.

812
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,820
So this takes out the suburb town code and prevent us from having new people move in and

813
01:02:44,820 --> 01:02:50,340
having to have an occupancy or actually an occupancy permit to move back into their new home.

814
01:02:52,620 --> 01:02:54,040
I have a problem with that.

815
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,900
I'm a low-key with a view destruction.

816
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,000
But if I buy a house, or less so it's an avenue,

817
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:02,360
the state's been made up for six months.

818
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:03,660
How do we know it's normal?

819
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:05,540
How do we know it meets the middle of the state,

820
01:03:05,820 --> 01:03:07,060
without an option to see a spectrum?

821
01:03:07,540 --> 01:03:09,440
Hopefully you had an effective way to buy it.

822
01:03:09,540 --> 01:03:11,260
If you have a whole inspection, the guy crawled around,

823
01:03:11,340 --> 01:03:12,840
checks the data and the other things.

824
01:03:12,980 --> 01:03:14,880
But he doesn't go through and check out what it's all about.

825
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,120
I mean, when my daughter had one

826
01:03:22,420 --> 01:03:27,980
I mean, I see both sides of this, but I don't see the difference between a new old and

827
01:03:27,980 --> 01:03:28,800
an existing one.

828
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:31,040
I mean, there's faults at all.

829
01:03:31,940 --> 01:03:33,200
And I just think it'll work.

830
01:03:33,620 --> 01:03:37,380
If you were required for a new construction, why would you do this bar for any young people?

831
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,840
I don't know if you want to put a time limit or distance of something that's been indicated for a

832
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:47,760
while, but I can tell you what one of the recent ones was, somebody purchased a home here in

833
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,360
settlement on Thursday they contacted us on Friday and they did not have the

834
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,660
inspection done which meant they couldn't move in and they had already sold

835
01:03:55,660 --> 01:04:00,960
her other home and was trying to move in down here in the weekend. So it was a

836
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,840
damp on it so I don't know how you want it. I think most of correct if I'm wrong

837
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:09,940
but most of the homes or schools have to have a home inspection. For the

838
01:04:09,940 --> 01:04:13,600
electric company we'll turn electric on and electric in right so you have that

839
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,140
the electrician can't expect it.

840
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:15,560
Right.

841
01:04:16,260 --> 01:04:19,600
So, I mean, that's that part of it.

842
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:20,260
Right.

843
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,500
The rest of it is I mean the smartest,

844
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,100
the beautiful view of it.

845
01:04:25,780 --> 01:04:26,800
You buy it all?

846
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,540
I think the C-4 side is all right.

847
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:31,380
If it's an existing old image,

848
01:04:31,580 --> 01:04:32,580
it's in 4 shades.

849
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,940
Well, that's your buying it.

850
01:04:35,140 --> 01:04:36,380
It's only yours. That's the best.

851
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:37,000
Yeah.

852
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,140
Know what you buy.

853
01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:42,740
If I can, my problem with the socket and C-perm,

854
01:04:42,740 --> 01:04:48,800
thing is you build a new home which I have now sell it. The county comes in for

855
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,920
MDIA comes in and does a fun girl out and move in. Not gonna pay the town

856
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,300
$200 to let them move in. That got changed. Okay.

857
01:05:01,340 --> 01:05:03,800
That's what you're looking to

858
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:09,520
change. Yeah. That's cool. Well, we changed that for new homes. We changed that.

859
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:17,680
This was just something that came up, and we had several real terms reach out to us and new homeowners reach out to us.

860
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:23,360
And we just did a little investigation, we looked into this, we checked with MAA, we checked with some other towns to see,

861
01:05:23,980 --> 01:05:28,180
and they didn't have this policy in life. So this is why we directed it to bring to your attention.

862
01:05:28,940 --> 01:05:29,980
It's up to you if you want to.

863
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,420
And there's also, I mean, I will clarify that it's not just that you're using the

864
01:05:35,420 --> 01:05:39,480
doctor's experiment only on new bills. Any time there is a change in the US, you have

865
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:45,500
to have an occupancy experiment. Any time a structure undergoes alterations when required

866
01:05:45,500 --> 01:05:49,240
by building codes, you would have to have an occupancy experiment. So there are multiple

867
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,100
players, which is not a change or form of ownership.

868
01:05:53,860 --> 01:05:58,380
All right, so King, we did somebody respond to this. Obviously, we have to have another

869
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:05,740
I had some additional questions, that was part of it, what Pete said.

870
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:14,220
And then something that I just didn't, I don't think, make it in the strapped was that

871
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:19,260
the provisional allowing license to Maryland and Inspector to perform the inspection, when

872
01:06:19,260 --> 01:06:26,720
the only changes ownership, it gives the town the report for review and allows the town

873
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:34,280
to reject an adequate inspection and conducted so I think that what I think that was

874
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,940
now will be took out so what we took out was that there was an inspection on change

875
01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:43,520
of home ownership okay so that's how to remove that so you all can discuss if you want

876
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:50,380
that to stay in or out okay because right now the code does have an inspection upon change

877
01:06:50,380 --> 01:06:52,200
of ownership or occupancy.

878
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,240
What this version does is there would not be that in section.

879
01:06:56,780 --> 01:06:59,380
So change of ownership or occupancy wouldn't trigger

880
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,480
getting a new occupancy permit.

881
01:07:01,660 --> 01:07:04,300
Only new construction, change of use,

882
01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:06,880
then we go from like residential to commercial,

883
01:07:07,420 --> 01:07:10,280
or a kitchen from a, you know, whatever.

884
01:07:11,380 --> 01:07:13,800
And what constitutes an imminent threat?

885
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,300
What do you decide to an imminent threat is?

886
01:07:16,580 --> 01:07:17,580
Which section are you in?

887
01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:21,780
I just made this, that's okay.

888
01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:30,000
It's in B on 5.5, versus suspension of reverse rotation.

889
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:30,620
Yeah, thank you.

890
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,420
Shelf-benders, non-cigarette, similar

891
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:36,060
threat.

892
01:07:36,620 --> 01:07:40,460
So, really, that would have to be the insect or that conducts it.

893
01:07:42,850 --> 01:07:44,830
Oh, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

894
01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:48,650
That would have to be based on the infectors of the end,

895
01:07:48,810 --> 01:07:50,610
that it's an imminent threat to public health safety.

896
01:07:50,610 --> 01:07:58,050
Thank you, Walter. Really, I've only seen that in a very extreme circumstances. Electrical

897
01:07:58,050 --> 01:08:02,310
wires hanging or dead lighting somewhere, risk of immediate fire.

898
01:08:05,770 --> 01:08:14,730
And then, it's a bit noticeable, Lee. 5-7 on state's near-use and occupancy permit shall

899
01:08:14,730 --> 01:08:20,910
be issued for occupancy or appropriate, I guess, which leads in a reason for non-payment

900
01:08:20,910 --> 01:08:26,990
of the noticeable services. That wasn't in the original draft. What happens when a UNO

901
01:08:26,990 --> 01:08:33,730
is required for new construction slash change of use, but there is a disputed, reprieve,

902
01:08:33,810 --> 01:08:38,630
system, the noticeable reason. They wouldn't be able to get the use in occupancy. Yeah. I mean,

903
01:08:38,710 --> 01:08:49,940
I think that the goal was to try to, so if you are purchasing a home and the seller unpaid

904
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:55,320
water or sewer connection fees or something like that. You don't want them to be able to get the

905
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,320
use in occupancy to sell them home until they pay off any of those due to the town.

906
01:08:59,860 --> 01:09:03,340
With that call up in a title search, when do we fall in our property here,

907
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:08,160
it had leads against it, and we did a title search to make sure they were satisfied before we...

908
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:13,480
It shouldn't, it doesn't always, because a lot of times it takes the title company reaching out to

909
01:09:13,480 --> 01:09:19,080
the town to make sure that all payments are satisfied. Sometimes their instances where

910
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,160
you might be purchasing a home, halfway through a quarter,

911
01:09:22,820 --> 01:09:25,020
like where a bill may not pass you yet,

912
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,780
but you're technically responsible for it.

913
01:09:27,860 --> 01:09:29,720
The title company might not call the town and say,

914
01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:32,900
we have settlement closing on August 20th,

915
01:09:32,900 --> 01:09:34,780
what's the amount to do so that we can add it

916
01:09:34,780 --> 01:09:36,680
to the settlement sheet so that is yours

917
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,100
without the account going forward?

918
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:38,960
Okay.

919
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,140
We know a lot of that part of it.

920
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,440
Where settlement doesn't contact us

921
01:09:44,440 --> 01:09:47,580
and then it goes to the courthouse to be reported

922
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,580
Yeah, so that is something else that we are trying to resolve.

923
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,440
Now, within this ordinance, but separately for that.

924
01:09:59,820 --> 01:09:59,920
I

925
01:10:07,220 --> 01:10:08,040
think it was all I had.

926
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,980
I would like to go ahead and introduce it.

927
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:12,320
Okay,

928
01:10:17,860 --> 01:10:20,300
any changes that need to be made,

929
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,280
they probably should be made out before we bring that to the next meeting.

930
01:10:30,580 --> 01:10:34,400
I mean, you could have the public hearing, and you could also, you could always have

931
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:39,960
a motion to amend that for the public hearing if you hear from the public, if okay,

932
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,040
for swing to move to one to move to, yeah.

933
01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:46,740
All right, so it will be in the public then, a commission or minute, all right.

934
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,560
Thank you.

935
01:11:06,780 --> 01:11:18,800
We're doing this because we have changed to be ten inches, but in one chapter it says six inches, and in the other it says ten, so we're trying to put the two together so you don't get two different answers.

936
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:27,800
So I had a note that I would move to post-pound consideration in final action when ordinance

937
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:34,280
26th code dash pen until the next regular council meeting on August 11th I specifically

938
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:39,840
requested in writing that because there was currently no place to access up-to-date current

939
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:46,400
sign ordinances, resolutions and policy those documents be forwarded for comparison to the

940
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:56,320
proposed revisions. The prior ordinance specifically referenced as the basis for amendment ordinance 25-6 was not provided to

941
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:07,280
men. So before council can is asked to take final action or requested council be provided ordinance 25-6. The currently effective versions of

942
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:15,240
the affected provisions of chapter 4-11 in confirmation of legal counsel as to which addition of the internal property maintenance

943
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,900
is presently adopted by the town. This will allow Council to raise the

944
01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:26,240
opportunity to verify what this proposed ordinance accurately reflects this

945
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:32,680
consistent with the existing world before going. So this particular ordinance is in

946
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:40,820
the town code which is posted on the air website. The ordinance from 2025-0-6 was the

947
01:12:40,820 --> 01:12:46,320
one that we already amended to 10 inches. This is one from the towncode

948
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:51,920
currently that still says six inches. So it is available online through the

949
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:59,680
towncode on our website. It's already incorporated in there. This has not

950
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:05,140
changed the one that we were referencing here. We already changed on September

951
01:13:05,140 --> 01:13:13,080
Remember the 18th, we amended that chapter 11 to 10 inches, but we found that there was

952
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:18,640
another section in the town code that still had six inches and this is what we're amending.

953
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,780
So it is on our website on the town code under that chapter in section.

954
01:13:26,620 --> 01:13:29,140
So basically we're just going from six to 10.

955
01:13:29,860 --> 01:13:30,320
We change.

956
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:31,820
We change.

957
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:32,740
We change.

958
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:34,680
I heard you say.

959
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:34,860
Yes.

960
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,280
We're not taking the final action.

961
01:13:38,260 --> 01:13:39,300
This is a Senator Nelson.

962
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,260
My commission will be monitoring this order.

963
01:13:43,660 --> 01:13:44,580
Thank you.

964
01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:48,240
In order of 2026 that is school 11,

965
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,880
in order to tell a green group to amend,

966
01:13:51,420 --> 01:13:53,680
we need to tell a green group chapter seven title,

967
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:59,600
residential housing to provide for residential inspection on an annual basis.

968
01:14:01,740 --> 01:14:06,040
So this was something that was decided a while back that we would go from two-year

969
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,060
inspection to one-year inspection.

970
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,560
We are making a clarification here.

971
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:17,160
We did have multiple complaints from apartment complex and after researching this, the town

972
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:22,140
should have been doing inspections of these apartment complexes regardless of whether they

973
01:14:22,140 --> 01:14:28,480
are from sponsored from the Department of Aging or the U.S.D.A. and so forth.

974
01:14:29,620 --> 01:14:34,180
So we just put a clarification in here that a residential resident, excuse me, a residential

975
01:14:34,180 --> 01:14:40,080
rental dwelling unit includes each unit in an apartment complex as well.

976
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,860
Like I said, we get our research and family shifting, doing a rental inspection all night.

977
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:51,320
So this just clarifies what you all have already discussed about changing it from a two-year

978
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,760
a rental inspection to a one-year inspection, and then we just wanted to make sure we clarified

979
01:14:57,180 --> 01:14:59,500
that the rental inspection should also be...

980
01:15:02,750 --> 01:15:14,070
So, the ordinance address 10% in access and constitutional inspection requirements. The remainder

981
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:19,670
of the town code does. The town code talks about giving notice for inspections, what

982
01:15:19,670 --> 01:15:23,730
happens if you fail inspections, giving notice for a career, whether it's going to be a

983
01:15:23,730 --> 01:15:28,630
inspection. I don't have it in front of me right in a second, but what exists within

984
01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:33,810
the time it does. Yeah, I didn't have it in there. In the future, something does exist

985
01:15:33,810 --> 01:15:38,310
and I've asked the right, it's pretty easy reply just to tell me where it's at. I just missed

986
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:40,770
it, sorry. I've got a lot of emails, so.

987
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:46,160
Well, I'll introduce it though. You know the question?

988
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:09,720
So we finally got our down to 2026 tax roll from the county and it indicated that our

989
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:18,840
property tax or projective property tax revenue was going to be $1,110,480.47.

990
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:27,160
When we did our budget process, the property tax revenue was going to be $1,040,121.

991
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:35,880
So we are going to be getting $70,350, $59.49 extra than what we budgeted for, so I wanted

992
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:45,400
council aware of that and then determine how we are going to place that money. Whether it's going to be in reserve or

993
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:53,760
So the tab manager and I have discussed this and we'll recommend it to the council that we put the money in reserve

994
01:17:19,220 --> 01:17:30,760
So the sales total $22,300, the commission was $2,230, which give us a debt profit of $20,70, and that's not been budgeted as well.

995
01:17:36,380 --> 01:17:40,000
If all of these things were listed as assets, then they went into the general one.

996
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,860
I think it makes you go where it is.

997
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:47,520
If you want to.

998
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:54,040
So public works has two things when you're amizing the public works, and at least that tree isn't going to be pleased.

999
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:56,040
That's the way I feel.

1000
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:06,040
Yeah, that's the way the money was put in the capital but I think it's going to be

1001
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,200
But I mean if you're going to go back to the department, so just put it in the capital

1002
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,220
that's my name.

1003
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,040
I think it's a very good question.

1004
01:18:15,260 --> 01:18:15,520
Right.

1005
01:18:15,620 --> 01:18:16,100
That's my name.

1006
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:17,480
I think it's a very good question.

1007
01:18:17,860 --> 01:18:18,020
That's my name.

1008
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,400
People in this building will built in Buts.

1009
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:20,960
Correct.

1010
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:21,140
Yeah.

1011
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:21,600
Yeah.

1012
01:18:22,020 --> 01:18:24,200
I assume they have a consensus on that as well.

1013
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:24,760
Yes.

1014
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:32,420
We're going to push back into the one to the police and the one to the public world.

1015
01:18:32,420 --> 01:18:32,860
I'll be part.

1016
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:35,560
All right.

1017
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:36,000
Thank you.

1018
01:18:37,700 --> 01:18:38,340
All right.

1019
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,180
Page two.

1020
01:18:40,060 --> 01:18:41,660
The Maryland World War.

1021
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:42,180
In the United States.

1022
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:53,860
So, I received a meeting request to talk to them about the Maryland World War Association

1023
01:18:54,780 --> 01:18:57,040
wastewater operator apprenticeship program.

1024
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:01,340
Now, they've been trying to get us to do this since I've been here, and I think they've

1025
01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:02,200
been trying to get somebody.

1026
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:07,080
And what this does is it substantiates and sends somebody to come and work in our wastewater

1027
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,340
treatment plan as a free-year program, but we would have to pay them.

1028
01:19:10,340 --> 01:19:18,340
And there is a scale that they sent on how much money we would have to pay them for them to come in and train.

1029
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,940
With full time position, it would include benefits.

1030
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:27,160
But at the end of that three years, they would be a certified operator at our wasteful equipment plant.

1031
01:19:28,340 --> 01:19:31,420
I think one of our current public works employees have to do that.

1032
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,180
Our current public works employee is not through this program.

1033
01:19:35,480 --> 01:19:36,820
They already had his water certification.

1034
01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:43,180
We do have him down there two to three days a week training for an operator.

1035
01:19:43,220 --> 01:19:49,500
He's got a few more years to go, and what'll happen is, once he gets that certification,

1036
01:19:49,900 --> 01:19:52,920
he would go down to the waist for a cricket fight, but you still need a second person.

1037
01:19:53,140 --> 01:19:54,080
You would need two people.

1038
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,080
That would reduce our contract to Susquehanna.

1039
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,460
This would just give us that second person.

1040
01:20:01,460 --> 01:20:06,220
And my problem is, we didn't mind you for this, for this, this, this, we're here.

1041
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:12,360
I think it's something that is great, and like the greater we're going to see, okay.

1042
01:20:13,020 --> 01:20:15,320
Would we be able to do like 50 percent?

1043
01:20:16,140 --> 01:20:20,760
We just got for your, please, visit this January, do you happen this year?

1044
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:21,580
Yes.

1045
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:22,720
Do you see it that season?

1046
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:23,600
I can.

1047
01:20:24,060 --> 01:20:26,480
Because I mean, I, I agree, you need to play it off right now.

1048
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,020
You're looking at, say, four years now.

1049
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,000
And what's the other guy in the certification?

1050
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,940
but I mean, you know, it sounds like a great program.

1051
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,760
I think it's something that we could really utilize.

1052
01:20:36,740 --> 01:20:39,220
They've got several people right now

1053
01:20:39,220 --> 01:20:41,080
that are looking for spots to start in.

1054
01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:44,980
But absolutely, if you want to take a look at some January,

1055
01:20:44,980 --> 01:20:46,680
I just think if we can't afford it,

1056
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,640
they don't wait here, but they're like half a pistol.

1057
01:20:49,340 --> 01:20:50,740
See where we're at, the budget,

1058
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:53,160
see where we're at, see how much money we're at.

1059
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,880
When they start somebody into the program,

1060
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:57,960
we can't continue.

1061
01:21:02,940 --> 01:21:09,580
I think that our objective for many years has been, I don't know, to pull these down here or push them right away.

1062
01:21:10,580 --> 01:21:13,640
So we don't need to have another exotic, a lot of likes in the sky.

1063
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:23,560
In order to get there, though, we would have to hire this person for three years and luckily $2,000 or $6,000 or $7,000 a year in addition.

1064
01:21:24,260 --> 01:21:25,880
we're paying and something to have.

1065
01:21:26,440 --> 01:21:31,240
So it's a significant amount of money to have to pay and give that up first minute.

1066
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:36,360
If it's currently down and gets through in the three years, the theory they could take

1067
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:42,320
and we're in such a bad place, we're going to go away, but in three years we have to pay

1068
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:43,520
this money to do it.

1069
01:21:43,660 --> 01:21:43,760
Right.

1070
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,240
So we can take and we'll talk about that later, but that's just okay.

1071
01:21:47,420 --> 01:21:48,460
I'll just go over there.

1072
01:22:01,980 --> 01:22:05,820
So I had to add black representative a couple of months ago and sit down.

1073
01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:10,080
I knew that there were several employees that were actually interested in this.

1074
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:15,120
This is the cost of the town, other than a push of advising to pay a bill for bill.

1075
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:26,120
So what would happen is the employee is totally responsible for paying for this, not the town, but then we would just deduct it out of their paychecks and send an electronic payment to that flat.

1076
01:22:29,790 --> 01:22:30,830
It's made for...

1077
01:22:30,830 --> 01:22:31,430
Yes, yes.

1078
01:22:31,610 --> 01:22:33,070
Again, we're...

1079
01:22:33,070 --> 01:22:34,570
It's just a matter of us paying for this.

1080
01:22:34,970 --> 01:22:35,210
All right.

1081
01:22:36,170 --> 01:22:37,390
That we deduct from the paychecks.

1082
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:38,390
Okay.

1083
01:22:39,850 --> 01:22:41,230
I guess you're in motion?

1084
01:22:41,690 --> 01:22:42,730
Yeah, I just need a approval.

1085
01:22:54,630 --> 01:23:02,550
All right, so if I make a motion then we allow the employee to pursue this black protein

1086
01:23:06,030 --> 01:23:07,130
Thank you.

1087
01:23:07,130 --> 01:23:09,330
All right.

1088
01:23:09,330 --> 01:23:10,030
Thank you.

1089
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:12,730
All right.

1090
01:23:12,970 --> 01:23:12,990
Thank you.

1091
01:23:13,130 --> 01:23:15,550
You have pulled through the comprehensive water tank.

1092
01:23:16,090 --> 01:23:16,190
No.

1093
01:23:16,430 --> 01:23:17,370
Tower maintenance program.

1094
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:19,470
This is just a notification.

1095
01:23:20,030 --> 01:23:20,690
An announcement.

1096
01:23:20,970 --> 01:23:25,590
I sent this out to you prior when the RFP was done.

1097
01:23:26,530 --> 01:23:27,750
It'll be coming up.

1098
01:23:28,830 --> 01:23:30,790
The deadline is August 27th.

1099
01:23:30,790 --> 01:23:34,130
We've already had at least 10 companies reach out to us.

1100
01:23:34,130 --> 01:23:41,390
for this. I haven't received any gifts yet, but hopefully by August 27th we will, and then, of course, we will hopefully award this

1101
01:23:41,390 --> 01:23:52,530
sale in September. And this is to take over the maintenance of the two water towers that we currently have. We currently spend over $30,000 a year on this two

1102
01:24:04,610 --> 01:24:09,610
So we've already had one company come in so they request a date and then usually the public

1103
01:24:09,610 --> 01:24:13,830
work supervise it takes them out and shows them the two water towers.

1104
01:24:14,230 --> 01:24:15,650
I've had several rejects.

1105
01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:19,370
A little bit more detail about the maintenance in which required because one of them has

1106
01:24:19,370 --> 01:24:21,890
It's just been painted, so that's not gonna be needing

1107
01:24:21,890 --> 01:24:23,290
another paint job for eight years.

1108
01:24:24,190 --> 01:24:27,290
And that falls into, did not want to be able to charge

1109
01:24:27,290 --> 01:24:29,750
because it's already been painted, at least one of us.

1110
01:24:31,150 --> 01:24:32,650
I do have some additional questions.

1111
01:24:32,770 --> 01:24:35,210
This is where I was getting confused with this one

1112
01:24:35,210 --> 01:24:35,930
and another one.

1113
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:41,750
So we're committing for 10 years.

1114
01:24:41,890 --> 01:24:45,770
What is the maximum potential cost in can the town

1115
01:24:45,770 --> 01:24:47,850
on Germany and you will leave without the panel.

1116
01:25:09,460 --> 01:25:12,040
Hi, Paula, Joe, it's for me, I want to start reading on this.

1117
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:12,480
Thank you very much.

1118
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:18,170
I'll see you in a second.

1119
01:25:19,450 --> 01:25:19,950
There

1120
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:32,480
is a particular term I think, and maybe I'm missing it,

1121
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,020
but this wouldn't be the contract.

1122
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,460
So what all this is request for proposal

1123
01:25:36,460 --> 01:25:39,920
so that companies propose to the town what services they

1124
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:44,540
will provide, and include within that an annual schedule

1125
01:25:44,540 --> 01:25:46,760
of maintenance activity proposed for each tank

1126
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,980
for the next 10 years and it's getting a lot of things to do to make it an activity.

1127
01:25:50,380 --> 01:25:56,260
So, it certainly contemplates entering into an agreement that long, but what it asks

1128
01:25:56,260 --> 01:26:01,060
for is to companies to submit for a whole town saying, for the next 10 years, this is

1129
01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:06,560
what we would provide, this is how much it would cost, and each kind of category should be

1130
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,080
broken out in particular costs.

1131
01:26:08,420 --> 01:26:09,960
So, we'll go up over to the district.

1132
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:15,120
No, so it should just be what the town is asked for and part of what you all will have

1133
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:20,880
to evaluate in your criteria when you receive these proposals back is what each company is

1134
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:25,440
looking to offer for a 10-year and what schedule they're proposing for 10-years, what

1135
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:27,920
maintenance they believe is necessary over this 10-years.

1136
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:28,440
Okay.

1137
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:29,440
Thank you.

1138
01:26:29,740 --> 01:26:29,900
Yeah.

1139
01:26:34,170 --> 01:26:36,770
Um, request for a part-time administrative assistant.

1140
01:26:37,850 --> 01:26:38,370
How would it be?

1141
01:26:40,370 --> 01:26:41,390
I don't think so.

1142
01:26:42,890 --> 01:26:45,630
She's going to be part-time assistant.

1143
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,620
She's asking for a part-time assistant.

1144
01:26:50,180 --> 01:26:51,240
I think it would be feasible.

1145
01:26:59,700 --> 01:27:06,660
So, currently two part-time positions we will take in, this will be good one full time we will take benefits.

1146
01:27:07,300 --> 01:27:14,820
So, I know the chief needs somebody and he's looked at the resumes that we've gotten so far in the market,

1147
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:19,900
We've been looking, actually, doing another payment for that position.

1148
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:25,000
My concern is that we have gotten several grants.

1149
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:27,980
And it's difficult for me to keep up with them.

1150
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:30,940
So, I mean, a lot of the next step home, and they've tried to keep up with all the demands

1151
01:27:30,940 --> 01:27:32,020
that we've got going on here.

1152
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:38,260
But each grant has different specific requirements on how to do submit payments,

1153
01:27:38,780 --> 01:27:48,140
requests for payments, they require a financial reporting at the end of the year, so trying

1154
01:27:48,140 --> 01:27:51,600
to keep up with all of these, and I love getting these grants, but then you guys stay

1155
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:52,300
on top of it.

1156
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,440
So this person would take care of that, the PIA request.

1157
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:01,920
So all of the PIA requests there, I didn't have Julie do about the total number of PIA requests

1158
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:12,160
We had, since 2025, 2026, and so far, we've had 138 BIA requests in that timeframe.

1159
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:19,580
A lot of them deal with financial records, we have to be researched, redacted, checked over,

1160
01:28:20,060 --> 01:28:25,840
you know, a lot of our bank statements are 22, 23 pages long, so they take time to get those out.

1161
01:28:26,540 --> 01:28:29,900
So there's a lot of detail work that we'll be able to do right now on June.

1162
01:28:29,900 --> 01:28:34,140
So I'm doing all the EIA requests and I'm doing all of the research and

1163
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:39,020
re-acting everything and then following the call back.

1164
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:44,980
So this person could also assist with, we still have a lot of stuff upstairs

1165
01:28:44,980 --> 01:28:47,220
that still has to be gone for real.

1166
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:50,240
That still has not, no one's had the time to do this.

1167
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,880
I think you all know that when you come in the clear office here,

1168
01:28:54,180 --> 01:28:56,920
stay up for constantly busy.

1169
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:03,860
I don't think there's this and it's a constant struggle for us to try to get things done.

1170
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:09,860
So I guess my question is, are we looking at our two parties for what are achieved

1171
01:29:09,860 --> 01:29:10,600
and what are you?

1172
01:29:11,180 --> 01:29:15,420
Or are you looking at our, what, what, what one for what my person should do is work out.

1173
01:29:17,060 --> 01:29:23,120
I, I was recommending two parties, but I'm just asking, do you think one person could do both tasks?

1174
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,140
The only concern with that is that the employer is going to be as happy as he can to describe

1175
01:29:27,140 --> 01:29:30,220
the yours and I wouldn't worry about the yours.

1176
01:29:30,780 --> 01:29:36,820
And that's my own problem is that he gets to a point where he needs that person more.

1177
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:43,920
He's building up a police force and then he's also getting grants and starting programs.

1178
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,060
His minister is consistent.

1179
01:29:47,020 --> 01:29:52,760
One of the things that is mandated by law is that I need to have victim advocates

1180
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:57,640
get there and that person has to be available and has to respond back to any

1181
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,760
compiling it where they've been within.

1182
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,800
It's certain amount of time, and that we have to meet those, to that time, I get 24, 48 hour notifications, and so forth. I don't know if I'm up for it if we try it with one, but I don't know if that's going to be, I'm just asking. Well, my mind thought, everybody, the brain's telling me that, looking for part-time work is one thing, but if you offer somebody a full-time job with benefits in today's world, you're going to draw a different crowd.

1183
01:30:33,580 --> 01:30:38,900
So that's fun when I said I'm just thinking if we swing the pot, we draw a better caliber

1184
01:30:38,900 --> 01:30:42,980
of person that's willing to come in and work, even if that's just like it.

1185
01:30:44,540 --> 01:30:47,620
So that's whatever you've got to recommend, you're recommending part of it, that's just

1186
01:30:47,620 --> 01:30:48,120
what you want.

1187
01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:55,160
So I do have something to say in reference to that, so maybe on your side send me a minute

1188
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,560
We could ask North Carolina High School, they have a senior,

1189
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:02,960
so may all work study a program that could come in here

1190
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:03,460
and do that.

1191
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,040
Well, I mean, we can definitely do that.

1192
01:31:06,420 --> 01:31:06,820
I do have to do that.

1193
01:31:06,820 --> 01:31:08,820
No, that way doesn't falsify down any.

1194
01:31:09,300 --> 01:31:12,100
I mean, maybe we reach out to maybe some seniors

1195
01:31:12,100 --> 01:31:14,800
that would make some of their time coming in here

1196
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:16,280
throughout the week.

1197
01:31:16,420 --> 01:31:19,320
Yeah, women town that would do the classroom.

1198
01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:22,880
The grants would be somebody that's

1199
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,700
to be able to come in and figure that.

1200
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,320
I did have funding for this for one year.

1201
01:31:27,820 --> 01:31:31,160
So if you want to hear my funding, sure.

1202
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:38,460
So in the new process that we've got, where bills come in,

1203
01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:41,460
and we're reviewing everything, there's a tax bill that came in.

1204
01:31:42,180 --> 01:31:43,680
And I researched it, configured a lot.

1205
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,740
We have tax bill, property tax bill that came in.

1206
01:31:47,340 --> 01:31:49,320
I took it, I researched it, and I actually

1207
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:50,540
went back five years.

1208
01:31:50,540 --> 01:31:55,120
We have a contract with Sprint, it goes all the way back to 1999.

1209
01:31:56,140 --> 01:32:02,620
In that original contract, it states that the town is responsible for paying the property

1210
01:32:02,620 --> 01:32:06,440
taxes of the equipment on water tower.

1211
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:12,400
And then the town was supposed to be invoicing Sprint for those property taxes.

1212
01:32:12,860 --> 01:32:16,220
I don't know why it was written that way because no other contract releases it that way.

1213
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,800
I went back and I guess during COVID that got dropped.

1214
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:26,260
So for the last five years we've paid the property tax for the water tower for Sprint.

1215
01:32:26,740 --> 01:32:32,000
I have since reached out to Sprint and had a conversation with them, we have sent them a bill

1216
01:32:32,660 --> 01:32:39,450
and we've all put back for this or just expecting a payment and that payment is roughly 23,000,

1217
01:32:41,770 --> 01:33:03,510
And that was money that we've not budgeted for, that we did pay out since 2024, the 2026 bill I did ask for them to pay directly on to the ASC, and we've already done so to re-write that agreement that we've had with them, but them to pay directly to the county's.

1218
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:14,650
So I just was able to look over the list tonight because I had asked for it in advance and

1219
01:33:14,650 --> 01:33:20,190
I didn't receive it of the PIA request and I'm going to open the admit that I have

1220
01:33:20,190 --> 01:33:22,290
the pulpit for a lot of these requests.

1221
01:33:24,450 --> 01:33:29,170
Unfortunately, I've been placed in a position where I'm having to submit residential PIAs

1222
01:33:29,170 --> 01:33:34,530
for information I should be per V2 as a council member in order to receive.

1223
01:33:34,530 --> 01:33:43,310
So, again, on the call for fair, if we can establish the policy, which I presented, which

1224
01:33:43,310 --> 01:33:50,630
also didn't make it on the agenda, to comply, as Jerry mentioned earlier, with Council

1225
01:33:50,630 --> 01:33:55,350
or Funds for Information, that would significantly reduce this list.

1226
01:33:57,510 --> 01:34:02,530
So that isn't for me, but I don't have a list of grants.

1227
01:34:02,530 --> 01:34:10,350
So we don't have council, I don't know if anybody else in the council is aware of how many grants for the volume of grants to be in.

1228
01:34:10,570 --> 01:34:12,330
Well, I announce it every time we get a grant.

1229
01:34:12,570 --> 01:34:14,130
I'm going to say she tells us but I don't know.

1230
01:34:14,210 --> 01:34:16,070
If you're going to run up, tell us what you know about accounting.

1231
01:34:16,890 --> 01:34:19,690
If you look into charter, we are a legislative branch.

1232
01:34:20,010 --> 01:34:20,130
Right.

1233
01:34:22,010 --> 01:34:29,050
The administrator side, the only one that's entitled to the information unless he chooses to share it here, she and the fund, is the mayor.

1234
01:34:29,550 --> 01:34:31,870
They're in charge of the administrative branch.

1235
01:34:31,950 --> 01:34:33,030
We're the legislative branch.

1236
01:34:33,690 --> 01:34:36,910
All this stuff you're asking for, I mean, on a PIA,

1237
01:34:37,170 --> 01:34:38,610
yes, it's information that's available,

1238
01:34:38,890 --> 01:34:40,370
but it starts something as a council member

1239
01:34:40,370 --> 01:34:42,450
that you don't need a special card of blood.

1240
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:45,990
Unless it requires our action or decision.

1241
01:34:46,230 --> 01:34:47,850
We deal with the ordinances and the other stuff.

1242
01:34:48,010 --> 01:34:48,810
And according to the charter,

1243
01:34:49,670 --> 01:34:51,610
the mayor is in charge of the administrative branch

1244
01:34:52,110 --> 01:34:53,790
which she runs the office and takes care

1245
01:34:53,790 --> 01:34:54,910
of the day-to-day administration.

1246
01:34:55,310 --> 01:34:57,130
And I'm asking for financial information.

1247
01:34:57,130 --> 01:35:01,490
So you're saying that part of our legislative duty is not there to receive finances?

1248
01:35:01,930 --> 01:35:05,790
Okay, when they present the budget, they give us year-to-day expenditures, and that's what we do.

1249
01:35:06,090 --> 01:35:14,810
We don't pester the hell out of them every day with an email asking for bank records, and then they're redacted, and they're sharing all social media, and then we get hacked.

1250
01:35:14,810 --> 01:35:18,970
We have had more information actions, you start to share some of that information.

1251
01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:24,930
That is because, like you said, there are decades.

1252
01:35:25,210 --> 01:35:27,650
Now with that calls a security issue.

1253
01:35:28,210 --> 01:35:33,330
And to my knowledge, I've asked for proof where I've posted a bank statement.

1254
01:35:33,470 --> 01:35:37,970
I have posted spreadsheets that I made from the bank statements.

1255
01:35:38,490 --> 01:35:40,110
But I've not posted bank statements.

1256
01:35:41,270 --> 01:35:42,870
So that is inaccurate.

1257
01:35:43,670 --> 01:35:47,910
Well, I do want to clarify one thing, because Joe, you had stated earlier that she's entitled

1258
01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:48,310
to me.

1259
01:35:48,670 --> 01:35:52,770
That whole problem there is everything that she has gotten.

1260
01:35:53,270 --> 01:36:00,270
She has gotten everything that she's requested, except for one document that ended up going

1261
01:36:00,270 --> 01:36:01,310
to an ethics committee.

1262
01:36:01,670 --> 01:36:02,410
They denied it.

1263
01:36:02,530 --> 01:36:05,270
They ended up going to the Maryland PIA, on Buzzman.

1264
01:36:05,450 --> 01:36:06,670
They also denied it.

1265
01:36:07,110 --> 01:36:08,110
I'm so happy right there.

1266
01:36:08,250 --> 01:36:09,430
I'm so talking.

1267
01:36:09,930 --> 01:36:10,750
You can talk after me.

1268
01:36:10,750 --> 01:36:19,530
And then what she has requested recently is fiscal year 24th, fiscal year 24th, fiscal year 25,

1269
01:36:20,170 --> 01:36:26,150
which the on-listment told me that whether you're a council member or whether you're resident, you can be charged.

1270
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:27,490
So I got educated on those.

1271
01:36:28,050 --> 01:36:33,290
She's not been denied that a bill was sent to her with a tentative amount of hours.

1272
01:36:33,290 --> 01:36:40,410
It would take for us to go through and find the information, redact the information, and then get it sent out.

1273
01:36:40,410 --> 01:36:44,170
But that's a lot of data and time spent to get that out.

1274
01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:47,490
She's also requested a lot of detail about the health insurance.

1275
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:51,190
So again, going back and trying to figure this out,

1276
01:36:51,290 --> 01:36:54,170
she's entitled to two hours of the time

1277
01:36:54,170 --> 01:36:56,130
and then after two hours, it's fillable.

1278
01:36:56,790 --> 01:36:57,530
That's where we're at.

1279
01:36:57,650 --> 01:36:59,230
Regardless if it's electronic or not,

1280
01:36:59,410 --> 01:37:00,550
it's still the number of hours.

1281
01:37:00,970 --> 01:37:03,250
So she's not in denied that information.

1282
01:37:03,690 --> 01:37:04,770
I just want to put that out there.

1283
01:37:05,110 --> 01:37:09,410
So in reference to the one that was denied by the budget,

1284
01:37:09,410 --> 01:37:16,250
and I agreed to drop it because she gave me some insight on information that I'm entitled

1285
01:37:16,250 --> 01:37:21,430
to that was less broad, and I then requested that and still haven't received that.

1286
01:37:23,310 --> 01:37:28,830
So that's where left on is, there should not be Lindsey Kurtney at her home, but when

1287
01:37:28,830 --> 01:37:36,750
I asked for 23, 24, 25 bank statements for a camp that are no longer open and have just

1288
01:37:36,750 --> 01:37:43,650
been populated for auditors and are readily accessible. Why should there be time you get it together in

1289
01:37:43,650 --> 01:37:50,630
redaction? They're closed against. Yeah so I unfortunately can't add into that just because I'm not

1290
01:37:50,630 --> 01:37:55,470
here on the day today so I have no idea where the papers are or how they're stored or any of that.

1291
01:37:55,510 --> 01:38:01,270
All the trust accounts that were closed in I believe January or something like that.

1292
01:38:01,470 --> 01:38:05,410
So all of those accounts have since been closed. They've been gathered for the auditors.

1293
01:38:05,410 --> 01:38:06,770
They're right on the accessible.

1294
01:38:07,230 --> 01:38:09,350
They're not, but they're not really accessible.

1295
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:12,450
Why is it that you want to go back that far?

1296
01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:14,150
That's past.

1297
01:38:15,090 --> 01:38:18,210
If you want to concentrate on what's happening now, that's fine.

1298
01:38:18,450 --> 01:38:21,250
But that's all been past budgeted.

1299
01:38:21,390 --> 01:38:22,470
We've both budgeted budgeted.

1300
01:38:22,470 --> 01:38:25,130
If being voted it, I get that.

1301
01:38:25,310 --> 01:38:28,090
But I just don't understand why you want to go back that far.

1302
01:38:28,350 --> 01:38:31,210
Because I found things partly that I'm concerned about.

1303
01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:33,210
So I can only imagine what.

1304
01:38:34,230 --> 01:38:38,510
and given the situation that we were in the previous town manager that never

1305
01:38:38,510 --> 01:38:43,870
got addressed, why would you want to know? Why would you, my question to you is why

1306
01:38:43,870 --> 01:38:48,590
when you want to know other side islands? That's what we have to have the

1307
01:38:48,590 --> 01:38:52,290
order. I mean we have counties looking at it preparing it for the order and then

1308
01:38:52,290 --> 01:38:57,030
we independent account and then we also have the order. I mean this isn't, it isn't

1309
01:38:57,030 --> 01:39:00,370
like we're sitting here and she's doing all the work and we're taking her out of work.

1310
01:39:00,370 --> 01:39:03,230
I mean, there's systems of checks and balances in place.

1311
01:39:03,350 --> 01:39:04,450
Did you read the auditors report?

1312
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:06,990
Did you read how there were forced balances

1313
01:39:08,310 --> 01:39:09,570
without writing solutions?

1314
01:39:10,370 --> 01:39:11,830
I know I'm talking Greek, because this is a bad idea.

1315
01:39:11,830 --> 01:39:13,770
I know I'm talking Greek, but some of that stuff

1316
01:39:13,770 --> 01:39:16,530
was just simple booking errors, and they reclassified it.

1317
01:39:16,630 --> 01:39:18,070
What through it, we did the stuff,

1318
01:39:18,410 --> 01:39:19,790
and we switched back to the other side.

1319
01:39:19,810 --> 01:39:23,070
They forced things to fit the balance, the statement balance.

1320
01:39:24,630 --> 01:39:26,970
Well, you had the opportunity to talk to the auditors

1321
01:39:26,970 --> 01:39:29,670
when they were here, when they were on the line.

1322
01:39:29,670 --> 01:39:34,250
My other thing is you've gotten all of this data and I keep hearing that you know worse

1323
01:39:34,250 --> 01:39:38,210
come into life that we've covered up stuff. I just wanted to know what you found out

1324
01:39:38,210 --> 01:39:42,710
of that support. You've gotten almost a year's worth of bank statements, credit card statements

1325
01:39:42,710 --> 01:39:49,310
and all of that. Where's the fraud? Where's the corruption? Well what I found it was major

1326
01:39:49,310 --> 01:39:56,410
and never got any answers on and now it's turned to allegations of fact which were not true.

1327
01:39:56,410 --> 01:40:03,350
it was because it was information being without was the money $21,000 that was

1328
01:40:03,350 --> 01:40:09,790
transferred out of the bank account to an organization that nobody will

1329
01:40:09,790 --> 01:40:14,930
tell me who owns the organization, who authorized the funds to be transferred.

1330
01:40:16,290 --> 01:40:23,390
The EIN number, the W9, the agreement between the town and the organization, I

1331
01:40:23,390 --> 01:40:25,350
I sent a whole list of questions that I had.

1332
01:40:25,770 --> 01:40:28,730
And what I got back is, no records do exist

1333
01:40:28,730 --> 01:40:32,290
besides the transaction statement for the money

1334
01:40:32,290 --> 01:40:33,030
that was transferred.

1335
01:40:33,250 --> 01:40:34,050
But I'm not in my way.

1336
01:40:34,250 --> 01:40:35,730
Who wants to rush this transfer?

1337
01:40:36,290 --> 01:40:38,530
So when we went back through, and this has been explained to you,

1338
01:40:38,670 --> 01:40:41,290
you also have the, you could have sit there

1339
01:40:41,290 --> 01:40:43,310
and gone through the binder that showed you

1340
01:40:43,310 --> 01:40:45,490
bank statements of this individual,

1341
01:40:45,770 --> 01:40:47,870
actually the town of Greensboro events,

1342
01:40:48,830 --> 01:40:51,650
the receipts of everything for the basketball program.

1343
01:40:51,650 --> 01:40:54,470
and it was given to you in the beginning of the meeting

1344
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:56,830
and then it was given to you at the end of the meeting.

1345
01:40:57,170 --> 01:41:00,170
Well, it was a binder that had all of this in there.

1346
01:41:00,450 --> 01:41:01,110
If you're a doctor,

1347
01:41:01,470 --> 01:41:03,130
the one that Brandon was holding is just

1348
01:41:03,130 --> 01:41:06,050
and told that they could look at it.

1349
01:41:06,210 --> 01:41:09,250
So he said, I have it all right here.

1350
01:41:09,310 --> 01:41:10,650
I said, great, let's go over it.

1351
01:41:11,230 --> 01:41:12,390
I've heard anything else.

1352
01:41:12,650 --> 01:41:14,990
All right, so we're just going around the circles.

1353
01:41:15,190 --> 01:41:18,710
Well, I wanted to know, so the thing I wanted to say

1354
01:41:18,710 --> 01:41:24,090
if the channel was really stealing something being jailed on it, because we do that

1355
01:41:24,090 --> 01:41:29,530
water year after year. I mean it's not my money. That's probably above what I'm

1356
01:41:29,530 --> 01:41:33,450
saying is if something is bad and we'll come out to life, it's not your job as a

1357
01:41:33,450 --> 01:41:38,150
counsel person like he said, let's just lay there to sit here. Well, and do that

1358
01:41:38,150 --> 01:41:43,310
all the time. There's time involved in that, which is office time that's taken away

1359
01:41:43,310 --> 01:41:49,090
from their daily duties. There's also the expense. I mean, there's been a new

1360
01:41:49,090 --> 01:41:53,590
factor of time as well, I'm saying. It's made to seem like it's a big production.

1361
01:41:54,110 --> 01:41:59,130
It doesn't have to be. Again, I do this for a living. I could operate this

1362
01:41:59,130 --> 01:42:05,350
information in five minutes. On your system. Your system is not like the system at all.

1363
01:42:05,450 --> 01:42:13,290
It's a no. That is not that way at all. You have no idea what the systems are

1364
01:42:13,290 --> 01:42:17,030
like in here. Yeah, yeah, folks, right? That's a great book.

1365
01:42:17,470 --> 01:42:22,630
Like you're talking about that. So I'll be doing this. When we bring her in one day and say,

1366
01:42:22,750 --> 01:42:27,770
this is what we never legislated for. I understand it, but so she knows. That way,

1367
01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:31,850
there's no confusion or no anything. That's the same.

1368
01:42:32,770 --> 01:42:38,370
Joe, I just think this is your conspiracy to make the town hall look bad. And the reason I say that is,

1369
01:42:38,630 --> 01:42:43,110
she puts all social media. If you work today, I will write for you. It's called reach out to you.

1370
01:42:43,110 --> 01:42:44,950
Can we call for order, please?

1371
01:42:45,390 --> 01:42:46,270
I don't know, I don't know.

1372
01:42:47,170 --> 01:42:49,790
This could be like a clue, such a thing.

1373
01:42:49,790 --> 01:42:51,490
No, I actually can't.

1374
01:42:51,910 --> 01:42:53,850
I would like to tell you, I would like to tell you.

1375
01:42:54,010 --> 01:42:55,570
No, there should not be a lot of it.

1376
01:42:55,730 --> 01:42:57,990
When you're a current kid, there should be an extra word.

1377
01:42:58,710 --> 01:43:01,030
It makes it, it bobs the author's name.

1378
01:43:01,250 --> 01:43:06,190
It's not, it's being made to seem like, oh my God.

1379
01:43:06,410 --> 01:43:07,310
Well, that's not the end of it.

1380
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:08,330
Why do people use it?

1381
01:43:08,610 --> 01:43:08,890
It's unnecessary.

1382
01:43:08,890 --> 01:43:18,710
Well, this is why I am requesting a dollar number on what it would take for forensic audit to go back three years, and that'll take care of this.

1383
01:43:19,490 --> 01:43:23,950
Okay, I'm not in a favor of wasting taxing the dollars.

1384
01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:28,270
Well, when you've got somebody that's constantly saying, more's coming out, more's coming out.

1385
01:43:29,570 --> 01:43:30,870
You're not a forensic order.

1386
01:43:34,270 --> 01:43:39,010
I mean if we wasted that much time, you had it already come to the fairing of an ask

1387
01:43:39,010 --> 01:43:43,070
to assist in all for dinner, nobody ever reached out to her.

1388
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,040
Why is it about getting a part-time assistant?

1389
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:02,520
I think that am I not correct that the funding in the budget now for a part-time assistant

1390
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,580
has to be used to the farm for the years.

1391
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:09,920
So if the trend in many homes on the streets decided to need a part-time assistant, the money

1392
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:11,440
in their practice, a favor that.

1393
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,200
So what you're asking for is roughly $20,000

1394
01:44:14,780 --> 01:44:17,260
to get a part-time assistant for a year for now

1395
01:44:17,260 --> 01:44:19,280
that is not currently in the button.

1396
01:44:19,660 --> 01:44:19,800
Correct.

1397
01:44:22,930 --> 01:44:24,090
We just put some stuff in.

1398
01:44:24,230 --> 01:44:26,070
And to follow up on what Pete is saying,

1399
01:44:26,210 --> 01:44:29,710
I think that once you get this person in here

1400
01:44:29,710 --> 01:44:31,750
as a administrative assistant and the chief,

1401
01:44:32,190 --> 01:44:34,190
when he becomes chief, it's his to go on the ground

1402
01:44:34,190 --> 01:44:36,530
and see what it is that he needs to have done.

1403
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:37,850
Because you're in a stuff down there

1404
01:44:37,850 --> 01:44:39,190
that needs to be reporting to him,

1405
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:40,750
that he needs the system to do.

1406
01:44:40,750 --> 01:44:44,950
So you may be able to find out if you could mold this one first with a day in where there

1407
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:46,650
came the building to do both.

1408
01:44:46,970 --> 01:44:51,030
So if you make this one, I'm going back to the council and get permission to be able

1409
01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:53,010
to buy them and all of that.

1410
01:44:53,150 --> 01:44:58,370
But right now, she's asking for her question moving forward for the administrative system

1411
01:44:58,370 --> 01:44:59,750
to help with all the grants.

1412
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,900
Okay, I may have to pass time to consideration.

1413
01:45:11,470 --> 01:45:13,970
Well, there's a motion that the protest party is going to recite.

1414
01:45:17,460 --> 01:45:18,820
Hearing none, the motion goes on.

1415
01:45:24,980 --> 01:45:32,200
Is there any other questions about this position? Anybody willing to make a motion to approve your request?

1416
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:57,410
So you're making a motion to approve your request for a port time position from the Ministry of Precision and funding up to 23,000 of the crewwrecks.

1417
01:45:57,770 --> 01:45:57,970
Yes.

1418
01:45:58,630 --> 01:45:59,410
A little second.

1419
01:46:00,230 --> 01:46:00,850
I'll say it.

1420
01:46:00,850 --> 01:46:02,510
Would you call the county?

1421
01:46:04,270 --> 01:46:05,290
Health and Ernest?

1422
01:46:05,650 --> 01:46:05,890
Yeah.

1423
01:46:06,590 --> 01:46:07,190
How's the name?

1424
01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:09,010
I will say yes.

1425
01:46:09,310 --> 01:46:15,190
The emotion is changed by saying we're using the spread money for the campaign.

1426
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:15,870
Yes.

1427
01:46:16,710 --> 01:46:16,870
All right.

1428
01:46:16,970 --> 01:46:17,890
Would you like your...

1429
01:46:17,890 --> 01:46:18,790
All right.

1430
01:46:22,220 --> 01:46:22,800
Yes.

1431
01:46:27,890 --> 01:46:28,130
Thank you.

1432
01:46:28,970 --> 01:46:29,190
Commissioner Harrison?

1433
01:46:29,530 --> 01:46:29,730
Yes.

1434
01:46:30,070 --> 01:46:30,330
Thank you.

1435
01:46:31,270 --> 01:46:31,570
Thank you.

1436
01:46:34,700 --> 01:46:34,840
No.

1437
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:36,700
Thank you.

1438
01:46:36,820 --> 01:46:38,060
Extraordinary code enforcement.

1439
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:39,620
Thank you.

1440
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,880
I want to put forth an outsource code enforcement.

1441
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:54,160
Currently we have suspended all code enforcement, just to do some issues that the product works

1442
01:46:54,820 --> 01:46:55,880
employees were enduring.

1443
01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:04,180
We did reach out to a couple, MDIA and another outsource company to see if we could find

1444
01:47:04,180 --> 01:47:05,480
out what the rates would be.

1445
01:47:05,480 --> 01:47:09,120
But at this point, you know, I'm looking to outsource this.

1446
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,100
This has never been part of public works.

1447
01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:12,900
It's not in any of their job descriptions.

1448
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,580
It was just something that was handed to them,

1449
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:16,500
for them to do.

1450
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,020
And at this point, I just think that it needs

1451
01:47:20,020 --> 01:47:20,940
to go to a professional.

1452
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,780
Right now, Julie still takes care

1453
01:47:23,780 --> 01:47:25,520
of all the administrative side of that

1454
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,360
and she would continue to do that.

1455
01:47:27,540 --> 01:47:30,280
This would just be for the person to go out

1456
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:34,320
and look for the code violations, take pictures of it

1457
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:40,660
and bring it back in here, we will no longer have the door hangers, we've tried that, it did not work.

1458
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:49,160
I think we need to go back to sending letters out and giving them a time frame to correct the situation.

1459
01:47:49,820 --> 01:47:55,720
But this would allow us to have this done outside of the town hall.

1460
01:48:03,970 --> 01:48:07,810
I think we should make a motion in the first practice with Alan Ypresi.

1461
01:48:08,050 --> 01:48:10,090
Well, I don't actually don't want to spend any money on it.

1462
01:48:10,090 --> 01:48:14,970
But I think we should go to one place and I think the citizens should take a picture of something to tell all of it that you stood.

1463
01:48:15,610 --> 01:48:19,790
And we send the letter and follow up with the abortion because somebody complained.

1464
01:48:20,050 --> 01:48:24,310
So somebody complained, but I mean basically police yourself. That's what we worked at.

1465
01:48:24,610 --> 01:48:27,470
The people would take pictures sent up to the town hall and send the letter.

1466
01:48:27,950 --> 01:48:33,570
I'm one of the guys that thinks about how long he's told, because I would be sad and take so long.

1467
01:48:33,790 --> 01:48:36,250
It's six months later I'll still look at the same trash on the porch.

1468
01:48:36,790 --> 01:48:40,330
But it was explained to me by legal, that's the way it is.

1469
01:48:40,590 --> 01:48:44,370
And if we're under orders at work and now we're going to outsource and spend more money,

1470
01:48:44,530 --> 01:48:45,870
I have just a solution back to the old way.

1471
01:48:46,030 --> 01:48:47,570
One quote, we just want to try to fix it.

1472
01:48:47,890 --> 01:48:48,050
Right.

1473
01:48:48,730 --> 01:48:49,170
I agree.

1474
01:48:50,750 --> 01:48:57,730
I'm trying to clarify what you're saying, that we won't have anybody rocking around looking for a point where we should rent.

1475
01:48:58,430 --> 01:49:06,410
Unless our citizens, unless we're the complainant, our citizens, and then who are you going to send to take the figures from the store?

1476
01:49:06,670 --> 01:49:08,790
The citizens, the pictures, everybody has technology.

1477
01:49:09,110 --> 01:49:15,130
Well, we won't have any money from town staff who are around here and some stingy complainant, I think we should.

1478
01:49:15,130 --> 01:49:18,230
Well, not enough, but what are you doing in instances where there's neighbors that don't

1479
01:49:18,230 --> 01:49:20,590
get along and they're trying to retaliate against each other?

1480
01:49:21,010 --> 01:49:26,910
I also have to have somebody testify in court if they get back, which gets me a time for

1481
01:49:26,910 --> 01:49:27,010
that.

1482
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:27,170
All right.

1483
01:49:27,230 --> 01:49:28,350
Well, postpone this one.

1484
01:49:29,110 --> 01:49:30,050
Let us take this.

1485
01:49:30,570 --> 01:49:30,990
Well, look.

1486
01:49:31,550 --> 01:49:32,990
You can postpone the next one.

1487
01:49:33,090 --> 01:49:33,590
We want to.

1488
01:49:33,770 --> 01:49:35,170
I just want to say this.

1489
01:49:35,410 --> 01:49:42,610
The whole reason why we're going is, and we're at where we are because we try to be

1490
01:49:44,050 --> 01:49:49,630
responses to citizen requests, people sat right in here and said you need to do

1491
01:49:49,630 --> 01:49:53,530
something about these co-violations and so forth so on. We need better

1492
01:49:53,530 --> 01:49:57,890
notification. Somebody came up with the idea we'd go ahead. So we made

1493
01:49:57,890 --> 01:50:01,770
doorhand, then it didn't like the language on it. So we take the language, then it

1494
01:50:01,770 --> 01:50:06,370
didn't like the color of it. So we take the color of it. And now it's gotten to the

1495
01:50:06,370 --> 01:50:11,850
point of negativity in town that everybody's spoken about today. There are public

1496
01:50:11,850 --> 01:50:17,010
work employees that come to me and said, I'm not doing this. I don't want to do this anymore

1497
01:50:17,010 --> 01:50:22,930
because I now in the face of the town and just because I'm doing my job and come out here

1498
01:50:22,930 --> 01:50:27,550
and I've been told to put to the door here on your door because there's a violation or

1499
01:50:27,550 --> 01:50:31,950
you're filled over your whatever. They see me and now there are people right down the road

1500
01:50:31,950 --> 01:50:36,190
and give me the finger to touch. I mean to put all of this to the point where they don't do it,

1501
01:50:36,650 --> 01:50:41,070
they feel threatened trying to do their job because people are freeing an auto run

1502
01:50:41,070 --> 01:50:44,770
and we're going to do it because we're simply doing what we ask them to do.

1503
01:50:46,430 --> 01:50:54,390
I think where people get upset is if there's mostly what I've seen is if they have either bill,

1504
01:50:55,610 --> 01:50:59,130
or they want to have no right to be honoured in our employees.

1505
01:50:59,530 --> 01:51:01,770
No, I don't think they should be honoured in our employees.

1506
01:51:01,770 --> 01:51:03,790
They don't want to quit.

1507
01:51:23,180 --> 01:51:27,720
I mean to be honest with you, if you file some of the codes, like people who are having

1508
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:35,300
Siding, hanging off their ass, shutters, pumpkin, paint jobs, that can all be code enforcement. We don't enforce that.

1509
01:51:36,260 --> 01:51:40,160
We enforce the brass, the water mills.

1510
01:51:43,180 --> 01:51:47,000
15, 18 years ago you had carry mouth this year, right around town.

1511
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:52,460
A little black Ford Ranger pickup. Yeah. It was a code enforcement town, the town dating.

1512
01:51:52,820 --> 01:51:56,960
We did goals where he didn't read so he didn't get any clues about that.

1513
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:01,700
Well, there are people out there, you know, the problem is that we would, if we hire somebody

1514
01:52:01,700 --> 01:52:07,120
from the exit, I think it should be somebody called, but the number you're looking at, so

1515
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:11,860
that if they say, you got an X, Y, Z wrong with your house, it says, no, come back, say,

1516
01:52:11,980 --> 01:52:16,280
well, what training do you have, how do you know that this should be like this, and we, you

1517
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:16,680
know, so.

1518
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,800
So, does the original use of outsource?

1519
01:52:21,740 --> 01:52:22,560
I don't know.

1520
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,580
I think it gets higher in your part of time.

1521
01:52:26,940 --> 01:52:28,420
I think it might be open.

1522
01:52:28,740 --> 01:52:32,880
It's not like a fee for however many they do.

1523
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:37,980
Yeah, so I know federal agencies first date in Section 8 and see.

1524
01:52:38,460 --> 01:52:42,860
And there's some other municipalities that use the middle department in Section 8 and see.

1525
01:52:42,860 --> 01:52:48,900
simply because they don't have staff available to do it there's other jurisdictions

1526
01:52:48,900 --> 01:52:53,520
that hire a part-time person that does code enforcement elsewhere like say

1527
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:57,200
at Caroline County code enforcement officer and then you hire a part-time and

1528
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:04,100
they might do it out the weekend I'm always torn on the subject because I

1529
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:08,700
definitely think we need code enforcement or else it'll look like trash or

1530
01:53:08,700 --> 01:53:12,360
you're out if I'm being honest. But on the other hand, I feel like it's almost

1531
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:16,760
not the point of an H.O.A., which a lot of us would hear because we didn't want an H.O.A.

1532
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:22,180
So it's finding that delicate balance between people of course respect.

1533
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:32,900
I think most of the violations that we have set out over grass, untied vehicles, or dismantled

1534
01:53:32,900 --> 01:53:37,980
vehicles, a lot of traction we do. We haven't been around looking for, oh you

1535
01:53:37,980 --> 01:53:41,040
You don't have a screen in your window, or you don't have this, or you don't have that.

1536
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:45,520
You need to do something because I have a suspension and good enforcement.

1537
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,260
I'm not put before he's out there. It's unsafe for them to get there right now.

1538
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:52,680
They don't want to get there, so we're not important right now.

1539
01:53:53,500 --> 01:53:54,300
He doesn't have.

1540
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:56,300
He's on my complaint.

1541
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,240
We'll send him a notice. We're shorted out. We're not sending by everybody.

1542
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:02,080
We're seven minors, too. We're no longer doing the door hangers.

1543
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,140
No. When will you have a crisis or what this is?

1544
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:06,160
I can get you a crisis.

1545
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,920
I've actually reached out to set an NDIA and I've reached out to the first state of mind.

1546
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:14,900
We've tried to be responsible for the system that we wanted to.

1547
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:17,040
Now we bought ourselves in.

1548
01:54:18,500 --> 01:54:21,940
But we've got to do something different because our lawyers are here.

1549
01:54:23,380 --> 01:54:23,920
Okay, that's it.

1550
01:54:25,180 --> 01:54:29,740
So, if you don't want to take any action on a night, we'll kick the can down road until the next meeting.

1551
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:38,060
I'm just saying, please give some more thought so we can put the address next week, all right?

1552
01:54:38,780 --> 01:54:39,900
Good, thank you.

1553
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:44,580
All right, so now we are announcing the Council for Mark Kim.

1554
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,020
Okay, so bear

1555
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:55,020
with me.

1556
01:54:55,340 --> 01:54:59,200
I am going to be delighted tonight, not just on my behalf.

1557
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:06,700
So, over the past week, so I provided my fellow council members and town administration

1558
01:55:06,700 --> 01:55:10,080
with a substantial amount of information and preparation for this meeting.

1559
01:55:10,620 --> 01:55:16,160
I did send advance intentionally to give everyone adequate time to read the material, ask

1560
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:21,620
questions, identify concerns, obtain legal guidance, work appropriate, and come prepared

1561
01:55:21,620 --> 01:55:23,380
for meaningful discussion.

1562
01:55:23,380 --> 01:55:26,340
and matters by race were not insignificant.

1563
01:55:26,700 --> 01:55:28,800
They all included proposed,

1564
01:55:29,460 --> 01:55:32,660
holding all ordinance intended to address potential conflicts

1565
01:55:32,660 --> 01:55:35,200
when elected officials are appointed board members

1566
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,560
moved directly into certain compensated town positions.

1567
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,640
But proposed council information access

1568
01:55:41,780 --> 01:55:45,960
and administration administrative cooperation policy,

1569
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:51,620
concerns regarding access to financial council information access,

1570
01:55:51,620 --> 01:55:53,980
I'm sorry, I'm re-reading the same paragraph.

1571
01:55:54,860 --> 01:55:57,220
Record an appropriate financial oversight.

1572
01:55:57,540 --> 01:56:01,220
Requested bill.com reports which I did receive.

1573
01:56:01,500 --> 01:56:02,260
So thank you for that.

1574
01:56:03,100 --> 01:56:05,700
Revisioned to the agenda and meeting policy.

1575
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:09,080
There were the agenda was modified.

1576
01:56:10,660 --> 01:56:13,400
I still have questions when I got here, but they were answered.

1577
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:18,260
And safeguards for turning the integrity of council packets

1578
01:56:18,260 --> 01:56:20,640
It's revised documents and documents presented

1579
01:56:21,210 --> 01:56:23,420
to for council approval or signature.

1580
01:56:24,180 --> 01:56:26,580
These matters are all involving transparency,

1581
01:56:26,940 --> 01:56:29,000
financial oversight, public participation,

1582
01:56:29,900 --> 01:56:32,260
council authority, document integrity,

1583
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:33,420
and good government.

1584
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:37,380
Yet as we enter this meeting, this information,

1585
01:56:37,900 --> 01:56:40,780
concerns that I have submitted have gone on the answer.

1586
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:42,600
I notified the ones that were.

1587
01:56:44,780 --> 01:56:47,960
I want to be very clear about why that concerns me.

1588
01:56:48,260 --> 01:56:52,040
I do not expect my fellow council members to automatically agree with me.

1589
01:56:52,380 --> 01:56:55,440
I do not expect every proposal I introduce to pass.

1590
01:56:56,260 --> 01:57:01,980
And I certainly recognize that reasonable people can disagree about policy, but disagreement

1591
01:57:01,980 --> 01:57:03,440
requires discussion.

1592
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:08,620
If a proposed ordinance is legally problematic, identify the problem.

1593
01:57:08,620 --> 01:57:14,040
If a proposed policy exceeds the Council's authority, explain where and why.

1594
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:18,260
If language needs to be revised, propose those provisions.

1595
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:21,540
If there are operational concerns, identify them.

1596
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:27,120
If there are financial records or reports that cannot be reasonably provided, explain

1597
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:27,700
the reason.

1598
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:34,220
And if someone simply disagrees with the proposal, as a matter of policy, then say so publicly

1599
01:57:34,220 --> 01:57:36,140
and allow the Council to debate it.

1600
01:57:36,140 --> 01:57:41,780
What I do believe serves this, what I do not believe serves this council or community

1601
01:57:41,780 --> 01:57:47,640
is simply allowing substantive questions and proposals to sit on the answer.

1602
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:51,320
I was elected to participate in the governance of this town.

1603
01:57:51,940 --> 01:57:58,380
That responsibility includes asking questions, reviewing financial information, proposing legislation

1604
01:57:58,380 --> 01:58:04,520
and policies, examining documents before building or signing them, and raising concerns

1605
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:07,220
when I believe our procedures can be improved.

1606
01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:14,360
Those responsibilities do not disappear, because the questions are difficult, because the subject matter is uncomfortable,

1607
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:18,360
or because another member of the governing body disagrees with me.

1608
01:58:18,900 --> 01:58:27,900
I have also made deliberate efforts to provide, I have also made deliberate efforts to provide these materials before me,

1609
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:31,000
and rather than surprising anyone from the stage.

1610
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:36,240
that should permit better government not create greater resistance. Providing

1611
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:40,840
information in advance gives everyone an opportunity to research the issues and

1612
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:45,300
arrive prepared. So tonight I am asking that these matters receive what they

1613
01:58:45,300 --> 01:58:50,140
deserve. Open, substantive and respectful discussion when they're

1614
01:58:50,140 --> 01:58:55,820
married. There, yes, there, no, all for amendments as questions, request legal

1615
01:58:55,820 --> 01:59:00,560
clarification, when genuinely necessary, explain your position to the

1616
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:02,660
but let's have the discussion.

1617
01:59:03,580 --> 01:59:08,600
Residents deserve to know not only that their elected officials ultimately vote,

1618
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:11,740
what they vote for or against, but why?

1619
01:59:12,380 --> 01:59:16,360
Transparency is not achieved merely because a meeting is open to the public.

1620
01:59:17,020 --> 01:59:21,460
Meaningful transparency requires that important issues actually be discussed.

1621
01:59:22,020 --> 01:59:24,500
Questions receive substantive answers.

1622
01:59:24,500 --> 01:59:29,920
The meeting viewpoints are heard and elected officials are willing to explain the decisions

1623
01:59:30,340 --> 01:59:30,880
they may.

1624
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:37,640
Regardless of whether my proposals ultimately succeed or fail, I will continue to ask questions.

1625
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:39,700
Review the records and mail them to me.

1626
01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:44,400
Propeller's reforms where I believe they are warranted and make sure that matters affecting the

1627
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:48,660
residents and taxpayers of Greensboro receive the scrutiny they deserve.

1628
01:59:49,060 --> 01:59:50,260
This is not obstruction.

1629
01:59:50,260 --> 01:59:54,260
This is oversight, and that is part of the job I was elected to do.

1630
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,060
I'm going to read something. I'm

1631
02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:33,120
always apprehensive to do it because of all the negativity tonight, but this is not my words. So I was asked by a member of the public to read the following written statement into the public record. I am reading the statement as submitted the allegations and statements contained in it are those of the author. And my reading it should not be construed as my independently verifying or adopting each allegation as best.

1632
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,980
March 17, 2026.

1633
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:42,480
Chief, I am ready to formally document

1634
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:46,840
trolling statements made by a town, a Greensboro town manager,

1635
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:48,220
Cynthia Gibbs.

1636
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:51,740
It's early February at a general store

1637
02:00:51,740 --> 02:00:53,520
in East Newmarket, Maryland.

1638
02:00:54,100 --> 02:00:58,340
What I witnessed raises serious concerns about professionalism

1639
02:00:58,340 --> 02:01:02,860
and partiality in the integrity of administrative actions

1640
02:01:02,860 --> 02:01:05,460
taken against officer Jeffrey Adams.

1641
02:01:06,260 --> 02:01:10,660
During his conversation, Ms. Joseph's post negatively spoke

1642
02:01:10,660 --> 02:01:14,220
negatively about you and officer Adams.

1643
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:18,920
She stated that Greensboro was her town and that she was the law

1644
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:23,880
and that she intended to make an example of officer Adams at any cost.

1645
02:01:24,540 --> 02:01:28,880
She also referred to you as incompetent and claimed she would rip the town

1646
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:30,500
on the people who were against her.

1647
02:01:30,500 --> 02:01:35,560
She further stated she was working with the county sheriff to accomplish these goals.

1648
02:01:36,100 --> 02:01:41,500
Ms. Joseph also made comments indicating clear favoritism, saying she takes care of

1649
02:01:41,500 --> 02:01:44,480
her public works people and supports her people.

1650
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:49,900
She went on to say she already had a plan for an officer of Adams, which she delivered

1651
02:01:49,900 --> 02:01:55,660
in a term that suggested retaliation rather than legitimate administrative oversight.

1652
02:01:55,660 --> 02:02:02,460
At the time, I did not immediately understand who she meant by her peeper, and the one she

1653
02:02:02,460 --> 02:02:03,260
takes care of.

1654
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:09,720
But after hearing her mention the name Jeff Adams and Lennox Trams, I put the pieces together.

1655
02:02:10,300 --> 02:02:17,180
Because of the seriousness of what she said, I contacted Officer Adams and Chief Trams

1656
02:02:17,180 --> 02:02:19,500
to inform them of the statements I heard.

1657
02:02:20,120 --> 02:02:25,240
What concerns me the most is that Officer Adams is currently suspended, and from what

1658
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:30,740
I understand this action was taken directly by Ms. Shows by passing this chance of command.

1659
02:02:31,380 --> 02:02:37,400
Given her public comments, the suspension appears retaliatory and personally motivated, especially

1660
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:42,140
since it followed the town hall meeting where Officer Adams reportedly helped separate.

1661
02:02:42,780 --> 02:02:47,920
The town manager publicly declaring ownership of the town, showing favoritism toward her

1662
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:53,760
people, threatening the target and officer in undermining the police to is deeply inappropriate.

1663
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:59,780
It damages public trust, and it raises serious questions about whether disciplinary decisions

1664
02:02:59,780 --> 02:03:03,960
are being made fairly, lawfully, and without personal bias.

1665
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:10,320
I am submitting this information because I believe it brings for a police department deserves

1666
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:13,700
leadership support, not interference or intimidation.

1667
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:18,280
I trust that you will document this matter and take whatever steps you need necessary

1668
02:03:18,570 --> 02:03:22,700
to protect the integrity of your department and the officers who serve it.

1669
02:03:22,700 --> 02:03:27,040
Please let me know if you need a formal statement or further clarification.

1670
02:03:28,300 --> 02:03:29,800
So again, this was provided to me.

1671
02:03:32,740 --> 02:03:40,080
And I just want to provide some context regarding why it's being presented now.

1672
02:03:41,140 --> 02:03:45,540
I am going to leave a comment strictly to events that I personally witnessed

1673
02:03:45,540 --> 02:03:49,700
and I will not disclose confidential personnel deliberation

1674
02:03:49,700 --> 02:03:53,140
or speculate about a conversation I did not hear.

1675
02:03:54,380 --> 02:03:57,600
While March 19, 2006 during an open meeting,

1676
02:03:58,260 --> 02:04:01,700
then Chief Lennox Trombs requested a close session

1677
02:04:01,700 --> 02:04:05,800
with Council, which can be heard at approximately 34 minutes

1678
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,040
into the public meeting.

1679
02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:10,900
While Council was subsequently in close session,

1680
02:04:11,500 --> 02:04:13,400
Chief Trombs requested the opportunity

1681
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:17,580
to present a complaint that he had received to the Council.

1682
02:04:17,580 --> 02:04:21,840
Mayor Spencer asked Chief Trombs whom the complaint concerned.

1683
02:04:22,580 --> 02:04:26,080
Chief Trombs responded that it concerns town manager Cindy Eust.

1684
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:26,800
Sorry.

1685
02:04:27,460 --> 02:04:29,220
Are you...

1686
02:04:29,220 --> 02:04:33,000
Is this especially all of what occurred in a closed session?

1687
02:04:33,420 --> 02:04:33,580
No.

1688
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:34,240
You're just closing.

1689
02:04:36,300 --> 02:04:40,980
Mayor Spencer then dispels the chant command as it relates to personnel matters.

1690
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:44,020
Chief Trombs and Mayor Spencer then left the room together.

1691
02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:46,620
I was not present for their private conversation.

1692
02:04:46,620 --> 02:04:51,400
I did not hear what was discussed between them and I will not speculate about it.

1693
02:04:51,820 --> 02:04:57,420
When they returned, Mayor Spencer stated that he would handle the matter and that it did not warrant council's attention.

1694
02:04:57,860 --> 02:05:02,720
The complaint was not presented to council at that time. Those are the events I personally witness.

1695
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:14,760
I am providing this history because I believe it is relevant to understanding how a complaint that Chief Trump sought to bring before the governing body was handled and why that complaint is now being presented.

1696
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:17,520
I didn't know anything.

1697
02:05:19,450 --> 02:05:19,590
I didn't know anything.

1698
02:05:19,590 --> 02:05:20,090
None of us did.

1699
02:05:22,850 --> 02:05:23,690
We were all here.

1700
02:05:24,210 --> 02:05:25,690
I mean, we were here, but I don't know.

1701
02:05:27,260 --> 02:05:28,180
None of us knew.

1702
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:28,980
That's why I didn't know anything.

1703
02:05:28,980 --> 02:05:30,600
But this followed, if we always did,

1704
02:05:30,740 --> 02:05:31,660
you followed the chain of command.

1705
02:05:32,180 --> 02:05:33,060
And the chain of command.

1706
02:05:33,340 --> 02:05:33,480
Yes.

1707
02:05:34,700 --> 02:05:35,420
That's right.

1708
02:05:36,180 --> 02:05:37,720
You can feel it.

1709
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:39,500
I don't know what you're going to say to me.

1710
02:05:40,340 --> 02:05:42,720
But what I will tell you is that,

1711
02:05:43,260 --> 02:05:44,680
when I went into the other room,

1712
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:45,300
the chain comes.

1713
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:47,560
He presented a letter.

1714
02:05:48,140 --> 02:05:51,520
How would you just say that all that stuff you do fit is non-identifiable?

1715
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:56,540
There was some allegations similar to that, but you did not read the exact same letter that I saw.

1716
02:05:57,160 --> 02:05:59,600
The letter that he presented to me was unsigned.

1717
02:05:59,960 --> 02:06:01,740
He said he didn't know who the person was.

1718
02:06:02,060 --> 02:06:02,640
That's what you mean.

1719
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:07,220
I can't act on this unless you give me a sign complaint.

1720
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:10,400
I can't act on something if I don't know what I'm going to go talk to.

1721
02:06:10,780 --> 02:06:12,800
The greatest question is conducted by investigation.

1722
02:06:13,620 --> 02:06:14,500
He never wanted that.

1723
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:21,540
But I did speak to her about it the next day, I'm her fault, and that's what I told you.

1724
02:06:21,900 --> 02:06:25,000
You're not supposed to bring this to the council, she answers to me.

1725
02:06:25,700 --> 02:06:28,580
So if you got a complaint, give it to me, and I'll hold it in to you.

1726
02:06:28,900 --> 02:06:30,460
That's what I did, I had the conversation.

1727
02:06:30,980 --> 02:06:33,960
So I heard the next day, she assured me, this will never happen.

1728
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:38,240
You know, guilty, I don't have a complaint, but you never heard no more about it.

1729
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,700
So I never brought it up to you guys, but why would I?

1730
02:06:41,700 --> 02:06:48,260
I have an unsubstanked letter that the person wouldn't sign her name for apparently because it never came back to me.

1731
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:54,780
She probably never read another word about it. So there you go. Now you know the rest of it.

1732
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:56,960
Well, it's going to be late because she left a statement.

1733
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:57,480
No, we don't.

1734
02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:06,840
It wasn't unsubstanked. It was never given name to her. It never came back to me.

1735
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:16,710
Yeah, although I did check to her just to make sure I do what I'm supposed to do, are you done?

1736
02:07:17,150 --> 02:07:17,450
I'm done.

1737
02:07:17,810 --> 02:07:17,910
All right.

1738
02:07:18,110 --> 02:07:19,570
My name is

1739
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:22,640
Eric.

1740
02:07:23,900 --> 02:07:24,580
This is Clark.

1741
02:07:24,740 --> 02:07:25,440
It was August 29th.

1742
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:32,940
Just followed by some of the action.

1743
02:07:33,500 --> 02:07:35,060
But there is two sides to every story.

1744
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:37,240
So for anybody who makes judgment calls.

1745
02:07:38,180 --> 02:07:39,620
And you didn't have both sides of the story.

1746
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:41,040
That's all I got.

1747
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:52,060
Thank you for coming, thank you for coming, please keep coming, keep wishing you're a

1748
02:07:52,060 --> 02:07:52,360
good evening.

1749
02:07:53,080 --> 02:07:53,360
Thank you.

1750
02:07:53,740 --> 02:08:02,440
So the one thing that I have for you, the council is that I was sent an email by Mr.

1751
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:12,150
Mason requesting to be placed on a future agenda and it said that there seemed to be some

1752
02:08:12,150 --> 02:08:19,370
miscommunication and some things cleared up. That's what he would put on the agenda. I had no idea

1753
02:08:19,370 --> 02:08:26,270
what it was I'm going to talk about. So I consulted with our attorney on a new policy about what

1754
02:08:26,270 --> 02:08:33,030
do she gave me the response that I sent him telling him that under a new policy I had to bring it to

1755
02:08:33,030 --> 02:08:39,110
the council to see if you wanted to put it on the agenda. That's what I'm doing now. Now we have since

1756
02:08:39,110 --> 02:08:46,190
not aware of that policy thought I don't know if it's even possible or not but I wanted it on a record that I did receive his

1757
02:08:46,190 --> 02:08:50,910
and I did respond to him exactly what the lawyer told her so she typed it out so

1758
02:08:52,210 --> 02:08:58,270
yeah I mean but basically the request was to be placed on the agenda the policy allows a request to be placed on the agenda

1759
02:08:58,270 --> 02:09:04,450
because that mandate that someone will be placed on the agenda and so we decided it would be a council discussion

1760
02:09:04,450 --> 02:09:06,350
had you all been setting the agenda

1761
02:09:06,350 --> 02:09:08,730
to discuss whether it should be an agenda item.

1762
02:09:09,330 --> 02:09:09,810
On your next meeting.

1763
02:09:10,530 --> 02:09:14,370
And then I was not, I never got his original email

1764
02:09:14,370 --> 02:09:16,130
because he missed out my name.

1765
02:09:17,970 --> 02:09:22,550
So, but I did get a separate email that apparently he had

1766
02:09:22,550 --> 02:09:25,850
asked to give a presentation after getting it anywhere

1767
02:09:25,850 --> 02:09:26,610
with the agenda.

1768
02:09:27,210 --> 02:09:29,710
And the policy is different for presentation.

1769
02:09:30,070 --> 02:09:33,010
Yeah, so the presentation had said someone made her

1770
02:09:33,010 --> 02:09:39,910
request to make a presentation, it didn't say that you're automatically allowed to be put

1771
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:43,750
on the agenda, and so rather than giving one person the authority to place something

1772
02:09:43,750 --> 02:09:46,670
on the agenda, it was brought up as a discussion item.

1773
02:09:46,970 --> 02:09:54,070
So generally, the way that I'm used to business being conducted is that during your mayor and

1774
02:09:54,070 --> 02:09:58,750
council comments, like a new policy, when you want something brought up in a later meeting

1775
02:09:58,750 --> 02:10:02,970
so that there is at least support for that, like I'll take a cool look at your list.

1776
02:10:03,970 --> 02:10:07,990
During your council comment, you would say, I noticed this might be an issue.

1777
02:10:08,190 --> 02:10:10,290
I think it's a good idea to have a pulling off period.

1778
02:10:10,610 --> 02:10:12,570
I'm willing to drop something. What do you all think?

1779
02:10:13,410 --> 02:10:15,830
If enough of them say, yeah, I think that's a good idea.

1780
02:10:16,050 --> 02:10:17,850
Then you move forward and it's on the later agenda.

1781
02:10:18,050 --> 02:10:19,890
So that you don't waste time drafting it.

1782
02:10:20,010 --> 02:10:22,370
They don't waste time reviewing it. I don't waste time.

1783
02:10:22,510 --> 02:10:24,970
I won't do waste time, but I don't spend time looking at it.

1784
02:10:25,050 --> 02:10:26,450
It's not going to be something to fruition.

1785
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:30,590
Same thing with presentations, you all should agree that it's relevant to a gun

1786
02:10:30,590 --> 02:10:33,490
item and we're considering to be placed on that.

1787
02:10:33,750 --> 02:10:34,630
What is the agenda?

1788
02:10:35,030 --> 02:10:36,510
That's what I think there was a missbook.

1789
02:10:37,310 --> 02:10:39,270
What are you wanting to speak about?

1790
02:10:39,490 --> 02:10:40,850
Not just the generalization.

1791
02:10:41,410 --> 02:10:45,670
Yeah, I mean, so that becomes difficult because if you're going to allow people to request

1792
02:10:45,670 --> 02:10:51,310
to be placed on a gun, you can't regulate their content.

1793
02:10:51,570 --> 02:10:55,990
You can't say, yes, you can be on the agenda because your content is positive towards

1794
02:10:55,990 --> 02:11:03,190
employees, but no, you can't. You can ask for a general topic, so you're aware so you

1795
02:11:03,190 --> 02:11:06,890
can make sure that it is relevant to town business. You don't want someone to ask

1796
02:11:06,890 --> 02:11:11,770
to be placed on the agenda to discuss the law law in general's heard of what makes

1797
02:11:11,770 --> 02:11:15,470
that. And to be aware of the time, you only have so much time to conduct business.

1798
02:11:17,290 --> 02:11:22,990
So I think wearing becomes a very hot topic, especially now that we're down to one meeting.

1799
02:11:22,990 --> 02:11:29,490
Yeah, so if somebody doesn't get the opportunity, they have to wait another whole month to say what they had to say.

1800
02:11:30,190 --> 02:11:31,810
And I just want to throw this out there.

1801
02:11:31,990 --> 02:11:37,330
I think I was probably the hold-off with having two meetings a month because of my client obligations.

1802
02:11:37,930 --> 02:11:49,410
But I have spoke to my client and they have agreed to move their council meetings to accommodate if we wanted to go back to two meetings.

1803
02:11:49,410 --> 02:11:56,390
I mean, another thing you could do, it's hard to put agenda items on the agenda that

1804
02:11:56,390 --> 02:11:59,550
hadn't been discussed before, because you all can't discuss outside of the meeting.

1805
02:12:00,270 --> 02:12:07,110
You do have some ability under the administrative abilities, which is outside the open meetings

1806
02:12:07,110 --> 02:12:08,730
act to talk about agenda items.

1807
02:12:08,850 --> 02:12:14,350
You can't get into the content of them, maybe that's an avenue where everyone comes to Cindy

1808
02:12:14,350 --> 02:12:16,550
and says, I would like this on the agenda,

1809
02:12:16,990 --> 02:12:19,390
and she could at least ask it at this agenda.

1810
02:12:19,670 --> 02:12:21,710
Well, it's very, very nailed out of consensus,

1811
02:12:22,010 --> 02:12:23,390
but I don't remember any of them.

1812
02:12:23,750 --> 02:12:24,930
At least I wasn't asked.

1813
02:12:25,050 --> 02:12:26,050
I know we can't call the email.

1814
02:12:26,750 --> 02:12:28,650
Well, was anybody else asked if they wanted

1815
02:12:28,650 --> 02:12:29,410
to order an agenda?

1816
02:12:30,270 --> 02:12:31,150
Yeah, I don't know.

1817
02:12:31,450 --> 02:12:32,210
I'm not sure about that.

1818
02:12:32,210 --> 02:12:32,430
I don't know.

1819
02:12:32,870 --> 02:12:33,290
I don't know.

1820
02:12:33,290 --> 02:12:34,930
I don't reply all of them.

1821
02:12:35,210 --> 02:12:36,270
Well, that's what I just said.

1822
02:12:36,470 --> 02:12:37,070
We're not announcing.

1823
02:12:37,370 --> 02:12:39,150
But that's why I'm asking mail.

1824
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:42,150
Did anybody participate in a consensus

1825
02:12:44,050 --> 02:12:49,490
I don't know, but that's where he would have, if he brought it up during Councilor Marks,

1826
02:12:49,810 --> 02:12:54,010
then he would get that consensus to then put it on the event, I see your point, that you're

1827
02:12:54,010 --> 02:12:57,470
then worried that it pushes it out a whole other mind, rather than another mind.

1828
02:12:59,590 --> 02:13:03,510
I just, it makes it really difficult to have another way.

1829
02:13:03,510 --> 02:13:07,050
I mean, you feel like the hurt, yeah, giving the opportunity to be heard, yeah,

1830
02:13:07,050 --> 02:13:13,610
You know, tonight was also a chain crazy, um, but very very private, yeah.

1831
02:13:13,970 --> 02:13:16,310
I think, I think my time here is your cue.

1832
02:13:16,430 --> 02:13:19,690
I think the mission for this public has the opportunity to be heard.

1833
02:13:20,370 --> 02:13:23,090
That's why we have the public comment for that sport.

1834
02:13:23,790 --> 02:13:26,470
I think that we look forward to the new policy.

1835
02:13:26,690 --> 02:13:29,130
We need to keep them on and the agenda has to be managed.

1836
02:13:29,650 --> 02:13:34,250
Because you can't have ten people wanting to get on to your agenda for ten minutes.

1837
02:13:34,250 --> 02:13:36,670
I just talked to her, you know, what?

1838
02:13:37,010 --> 02:13:39,170
I don't know if you know that this account you can make.

1839
02:13:39,490 --> 02:13:42,090
I don't know if that, but also if you had four ordinances

1840
02:13:42,090 --> 02:13:45,070
from each council member being placed on it.

1841
02:13:45,250 --> 02:13:47,850
You know, if I want to change the grass to two inches

1842
02:13:47,850 --> 02:13:52,130
and Bob you might want to regulate windows.

1843
02:13:52,710 --> 02:13:54,690
So this is just something for you to consider,

1844
02:13:54,810 --> 02:13:56,870
because I can do some kind of, just my opinion,

1845
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:58,390
and I don't need to go into any way.

1846
02:13:59,290 --> 02:14:03,770
But I think the way it used to be is that you want to get

1847
02:14:06,650 --> 02:14:14,690
You're talking about people going on the agenda and there are some ordinances and legislation going on the agenda.

1848
02:14:15,370 --> 02:14:17,630
I thought we were talking about people going on the agenda.

1849
02:14:17,970 --> 02:14:20,550
No, I think we're talking now about legislation.

1850
02:14:20,950 --> 02:14:31,130
So I think we need it. I would rather not limit people and limit how many legislative decisions we make in one session.

1851
02:14:31,130 --> 02:14:36,170
Because from being honest, if you're thoroughly reading these things, it's very time consuming.

1852
02:14:36,670 --> 02:14:42,230
And I pointed out before that the majority of us, or the majority of us, still work.

1853
02:14:42,230 --> 02:14:46,730
So it takes some stints of amount of time to re-