1 00:03:54,244 --> 00:03:54,378 All right. Good evening. 2 00:03:54,378 --> 00:03:55,646 I 3 00:03:55,646 --> 00:03:58,916 d like to welcome everyone to 4 00:03:58,916 --> 00:03:59,984 the AUGUST 13th, 2026 meeting 5 00:03:59,984 --> 00:04:00,117 of the Greenville City Council. 6 00:04:00,117 --> 00:04:01,180 I 7 00:04:01,180 --> 00:04:01,686 m mayor P.J. Connelly for 8 00:04:01,686 --> 00:04:01,886 presiding over tonight 9 00:04:01,886 --> 00:04:02,387 s 10 00:04:02,387 --> 00:04:02,687 meeting. First, I 11 00:04:02,687 --> 00:04:03,855 d like to 12 00:04:03,855 --> 00:04:04,989 call on Mayor Pro Tem Forman 13 00:04:04,989 --> 00:04:06,124 for the invocation, followed by 14 00:04:06,124 --> 00:04:08,524 the Pledge of Allegiance. 15 00:04:08,793 --> 00:04:12,393 Thank you. Mayor. Um, I was 16 00:04:12,430 --> 00:04:16,300 reminded this week of my wife. 17 00:04:16,367 --> 00:04:16,534 And oftentimes that, uh, we 18 00:04:16,534 --> 00:04:18,534 don 19 00:04:19,403 --> 00:04:22,139 t remember what the reason 20 00:04:22,139 --> 00:04:23,941 is that we do this work. And so 21 00:04:23,941 --> 00:04:26,760 I was led to share with us 22 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,476 tonight, uh, first Corinthians 23 00:04:29,647 --> 00:04:33,116 13. And it goes as if I speak 24 00:04:33,116 --> 00:04:36,186 in tongues of men or of angels, 25 00:04:36,186 --> 00:04:36,987 but do not have love. I 26 00:04:36,987 --> 00:04:38,987 m only 27 00:04:40,491 --> 00:04:43,491 a resounding gong or cymbal 28 00:04:44,428 --> 00:04:47,331 clanging. If I have the gifts 29 00:04:47,331 --> 00:04:49,633 of prophecy and can fathom all 30 00:04:49,633 --> 00:04:51,669 mysteries and all knowledge. 31 00:04:51,669 --> 00:04:53,504 And if I have faith and can 32 00:04:53,504 --> 00:04:56,673 move mountains, but do not have 33 00:04:56,673 --> 00:04:59,410 love, I am nothing. If I give 34 00:04:59,410 --> 00:05:01,979 all I possess to the poor, and 35 00:05:01,979 --> 00:05:04,482 give over my body to hardship, 36 00:05:04,482 --> 00:05:05,749 that I MAY boast only, but do 37 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:06,751 not have love, I 38 00:05:06,751 --> 00:05:08,751 ve gained 39 00:05:09,386 --> 00:05:12,386 nothing. Love is patient. Love 40 00:05:13,591 --> 00:05:15,793 is kind. Love does not envy. It 41 00:05:15,793 --> 00:05:18,296 does not boast. It is not 42 00:05:18,296 --> 00:05:21,296 proud. It does not dishonor 43 00:05:21,565 --> 00:05:24,469 others. It is not self-seeking. 44 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:27,370 It is not easily angered. It 45 00:05:27,370 --> 00:05:29,730 keeps no record of wrongs. Love 46 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:32,673 does not delight in evil, but 47 00:05:34,111 --> 00:05:37,111 rejoices in truth. It always 48 00:05:37,248 --> 00:05:39,183 protects, always trust, always 49 00:05:39,183 --> 00:05:41,385 hopes. And it always 50 00:05:41,385 --> 00:05:43,254 perseveres. And my favorite 51 00:05:43,254 --> 00:05:46,391 part of this is verse eight 52 00:05:46,391 --> 00:05:47,125 that says, love never fails. 53 00:05:47,125 --> 00:05:48,926 Amen. 54 00:05:48,926 --> 00:05:52,463 Please stand for the Pledge of 55 00:05:52,463 --> 00:05:54,463 Allegiance. 56 00:05:54,899 --> 00:05:57,201 And allegiance to the flag of 57 00:05:57,201 --> 00:05:59,470 the United States of America, 58 00:05:59,470 --> 00:06:01,973 and to the Republic for which 59 00:06:01,973 --> 00:06:04,909 it stands. One nation under 60 00:06:04,909 --> 00:06:07,309 GOD, indivisible, with liberty 61 00:06:10,448 --> 00:06:11,416 and justice for all. 62 00:06:11,416 --> 00:06:12,283 MADAM Clerk, will you please 63 00:06:12,283 --> 00:06:14,283 call the roll? 64 00:06:14,352 --> 00:06:16,153 Yes, sir. Mayor Connolly here. 65 00:06:16,153 --> 00:06:17,521 Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Here. 66 00:06:17,521 --> 00:06:19,157 Council member Jones. Here. 67 00:06:19,157 --> 00:06:20,457 Council member. Hardy. Here. 68 00:06:20,457 --> 00:06:21,359 Um, Councilmember Sculley has 69 00:06:21,359 --> 00:06:22,393 let us know he will not be 70 00:06:22,393 --> 00:06:23,728 attending this evening. Council 71 00:06:23,728 --> 00:06:24,862 member Robinson here. Council 72 00:06:24,862 --> 00:06:25,596 member Willis here. All right. 73 00:06:25,596 --> 00:06:26,197 Mayor Connolly of. 74 00:06:26,197 --> 00:06:26,463 Thank you very much. We 75 00:06:26,463 --> 00:06:27,564 ll now 76 00:06:27,564 --> 00:06:27,799 move on to approval of 77 00:06:27,799 --> 00:06:28,399 tonight 78 00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:29,300 s agenda. MISTER 79 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:29,567 Manager, any recommended 80 00:06:29,567 --> 00:06:30,267 changes? 81 00:06:30,267 --> 00:06:31,236 I have no changes. 82 00:06:31,236 --> 00:06:31,735 All right. Do I have a motion 83 00:06:31,735 --> 00:06:32,903 to approve? 84 00:06:32,903 --> 00:06:33,738 Motion to approve. Second. 85 00:06:33,738 --> 00:06:35,500 All right. Motion has been made 86 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:35,873 by Councilmember Jones and by 87 00:06:35,873 --> 00:06:36,808 Councilmember Robinson. All 88 00:06:36,808 --> 00:06:38,209 those in favor say aye. Aye, 89 00:06:38,209 --> 00:06:39,477 aye. Opposed. Say nay. 90 00:06:39,477 --> 00:06:41,877 Motion passes five zero. 91 00:06:43,247 --> 00:06:46,247 Move on to special recognitions. 92 00:06:50,254 --> 00:06:52,123 I 93 00:06:52,123 --> 00:06:56,323 d like to ask Glen Wooten to 94 00:07:00,497 --> 00:07:02,497 come forward. Family. 95 00:07:06,971 --> 00:07:08,971 Sorry. 96 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,780 So it is my honor to recognize 97 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:16,470 Glen Wooten for his retirement 98 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:16,714 from the city of Greenville. 99 00:07:16,714 --> 00:07:17,949 And I 100 00:07:17,949 --> 00:07:20,885 d just like to take a few 101 00:07:20,885 --> 00:07:22,586 minutes to read some comments 102 00:07:22,586 --> 00:07:25,356 that came directly from some of 103 00:07:25,356 --> 00:07:28,356 your coworkers. Just about you. 104 00:07:28,426 --> 00:07:30,228 All right, Glen, you, uh, you 105 00:07:30,228 --> 00:07:33,298 began your work with the city 106 00:07:33,298 --> 00:07:34,332 right out of high school, and, 107 00:07:34,332 --> 00:07:35,733 uh, started when the Public 108 00:07:35,733 --> 00:07:37,234 Works Department spent several 109 00:07:37,234 --> 00:07:38,436 years there and then 110 00:07:38,436 --> 00:07:40,738 transitioned over to the 111 00:07:40,738 --> 00:07:42,139 Recreation and Parks Department 112 00:07:42,139 --> 00:07:44,642 over the course of your career. 113 00:07:44,642 --> 00:07:48,112 Glen, you a valuable member of 114 00:07:48,112 --> 00:07:50,415 the team and built a reputation 115 00:07:50,415 --> 00:07:52,350 for doing things the right way. 116 00:07:52,350 --> 00:07:54,284 Now, they say, if you know 117 00:07:54,284 --> 00:07:56,788 Glen, you know that his truck 118 00:07:56,788 --> 00:07:59,624 and his tools retrieve like 119 00:07:59,624 --> 00:08:02,624 Fort Knox and everything was 120 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,160 always locked up, organized, 121 00:08:05,329 --> 00:08:07,932 and exactly where it belonged. 122 00:08:07,932 --> 00:08:10,100 Glen is an incredibly skilled 123 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:11,803 welder and craftsman, and 124 00:08:11,803 --> 00:08:14,672 someone who takes pride in his 125 00:08:14,672 --> 00:08:16,307 work as a building facilities 126 00:08:16,307 --> 00:08:16,740 technician and the department 127 00:08:16,740 --> 00:08:18,740 s 128 00:08:19,343 --> 00:08:20,778 chief playground inspector. He 129 00:08:20,778 --> 00:08:23,460 made sure the facilities were 130 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:24,883 safe, clean and ready for the 131 00:08:24,883 --> 00:08:26,217 use by the public. Glen also 132 00:08:26,217 --> 00:08:28,119 spent his time mentoring 133 00:08:28,119 --> 00:08:30,119 younger employees throughout 134 00:08:30,455 --> 00:08:32,390 his career, passing on his eye 135 00:08:32,390 --> 00:08:34,125 for detail and workplace 136 00:08:34,125 --> 00:08:36,327 knowledge. The attention to 137 00:08:36,327 --> 00:08:37,828 detail and willingness to teach 138 00:08:37,828 --> 00:08:38,950 others are some of Glen 139 00:08:38,950 --> 00:08:39,930 s 140 00:08:39,930 --> 00:08:42,330 greatest qualities as an 141 00:08:42,366 --> 00:08:43,734 employee. And Glen, we, uh, we 142 00:08:43,734 --> 00:08:46,236 were fortunate enough to spend 143 00:08:46,236 --> 00:08:48,306 some time together a couple of 144 00:08:48,306 --> 00:08:50,541 weeks ago, and I told you at 145 00:08:50,541 --> 00:08:52,443 that point in time that that I 146 00:08:52,443 --> 00:08:54,779 felt that there was no greater, 147 00:08:54,779 --> 00:08:56,447 you know, gift in your life 148 00:08:56,447 --> 00:08:58,582 than to serve others. And 149 00:08:58,582 --> 00:09:00,752 clearly, that number of years 150 00:09:00,752 --> 00:09:02,720 you have gone above and beyond 151 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,755 to serve this community and 152 00:09:03,755 --> 00:09:04,210 touched the lives of people 153 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:05,890 that you 154 00:09:05,890 --> 00:09:07,425 ll never know. But 155 00:09:07,425 --> 00:09:08,726 now, after reading all the 156 00:09:08,726 --> 00:09:09,894 great things that your your 157 00:09:09,894 --> 00:09:10,294 department had to say about 158 00:09:10,294 --> 00:09:11,762 you, I 159 00:09:11,762 --> 00:09:11,963 d say also with that, 160 00:09:11,963 --> 00:09:13,530 there 161 00:09:13,530 --> 00:09:14,866 s no greater honor than 162 00:09:14,866 --> 00:09:17,680 to have individuals that you 163 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:19,136 have worked around for years 164 00:09:19,136 --> 00:09:20,337 talk so great about what type 165 00:09:20,337 --> 00:09:21,572 of person you are, not just 166 00:09:21,572 --> 00:09:23,674 worker, but what kind of person 167 00:09:23,674 --> 00:09:24,808 you are. So on behalf of the 168 00:09:24,808 --> 00:09:25,430 City Council and the city 169 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:26,770 manager 170 00:09:26,770 --> 00:09:28,770 s office and 171 00:09:28,112 --> 00:09:30,112 recreation, parks, 172 00:09:30,214 --> 00:09:31,215 congratulations and GOD bless 173 00:09:31,215 --> 00:09:31,382 you. Thank you for everything 174 00:09:31,382 --> 00:09:32,490 you 175 00:09:32,490 --> 00:09:35,649 ve done for the City of 176 00:09:42,660 --> 00:09:43,695 Greenville. Try to get this 177 00:09:43,695 --> 00:09:44,729 right without dropping it and 178 00:09:44,729 --> 00:09:44,862 breaking it, okay? Because it 179 00:09:44,862 --> 00:09:46,430 s 180 00:09:46,430 --> 00:09:48,866 got the mayor in my name and my 181 00:09:48,866 --> 00:09:51,936 name on it says in recognition 182 00:09:51,936 --> 00:09:54,772 of 29 years and eight months of 183 00:09:54,772 --> 00:09:56,640 outstanding service, we extend 184 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,420 our sincere appreciation to 185 00:09:58,420 --> 00:09:59,210 Ronald Glen Wooten. 186 00:09:59,210 --> 00:10:01,210 Congratulations. 187 00:10:11,989 --> 00:10:13,457 Thank you. 188 00:10:13,457 --> 00:10:15,292 All right. 189 00:10:15,292 --> 00:10:16,995 Now, if I could ask the members 190 00:10:16,995 --> 00:10:18,396 of the impact generates 191 00:10:18,396 --> 00:10:19,497 influence basketball team, both 192 00:10:19,497 --> 00:10:20,564 the 12 you and the high school 193 00:10:20,564 --> 00:10:23,564 team to come forward. Any 194 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,761 members that we MAY have. 195 00:10:50,761 --> 00:10:52,761 Congratulations, guys. Bring 196 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:53,831 your. 197 00:10:53,831 --> 00:10:55,599 Oh. 198 00:10:55,599 --> 00:10:57,868 Hell yeah. There. You got it. 199 00:10:57,868 --> 00:10:58,803 I said earlier, I was I if I 200 00:10:58,803 --> 00:10:59,604 just had a little bit more 201 00:10:59,604 --> 00:11:00,871 time, I would have set that 202 00:11:00,871 --> 00:11:02,440 basketball gold up on the first 203 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,908 floor. So we could have had the 204 00:11:03,908 --> 00:11:06,308 game before the meeting 205 00:11:06,778 --> 00:11:10,114 started. It is also, uh, my 206 00:11:10,114 --> 00:11:10,314 honor to recognize the igi. And 207 00:11:10,314 --> 00:11:11,315 that 208 00:11:11,315 --> 00:11:12,883 s what I will say. The the 209 00:11:12,883 --> 00:11:14,883 impact generates influence 210 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,452 basketball team. Both the 12 211 00:11:17,555 --> 00:11:20,625 team and the high school team. 212 00:11:20,625 --> 00:11:22,930 They are local aew program with 213 00:11:22,930 --> 00:11:24,629 both a 12 year team again and a 214 00:11:24,629 --> 00:11:26,664 high school team all year long. 215 00:11:26,664 --> 00:11:28,433 Teams go head to head with 216 00:11:28,433 --> 00:11:30,568 tough competition and always 217 00:11:30,568 --> 00:11:32,700 bringing their best. They have 218 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:34,500 some awesome wins lately. Let 219 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:37,508 me tell you about those. The 12 220 00:11:37,508 --> 00:11:39,544 u team took home the 2025 221 00:11:39,544 --> 00:11:41,278 National Championship, and the 222 00:11:41,278 --> 00:11:43,314 high school team grabbed second 223 00:11:43,314 --> 00:11:45,984 place at nationals this year. 224 00:11:45,984 --> 00:11:47,919 But iga is about more than just 225 00:11:47,919 --> 00:11:49,520 basketball. They really focus 226 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,923 on teaching their players to 227 00:11:51,923 --> 00:11:54,259 work hard, make good choices 228 00:11:54,259 --> 00:11:55,627 and stay true to themselves. 229 00:11:55,627 --> 00:11:57,795 The lessons learned on the 230 00:11:57,795 --> 00:11:59,397 court help shape what these 231 00:11:59,397 --> 00:12:01,132 athletes are and prepare them 232 00:12:01,132 --> 00:12:02,566 for whatever comes next in 233 00:12:02,566 --> 00:12:02,967 life. And now, what I 234 00:12:02,967 --> 00:12:04,869 d like to 235 00:12:04,869 --> 00:12:06,504 do is it might not be everyone 236 00:12:06,504 --> 00:12:09,607 here, but I would like to to 237 00:12:09,607 --> 00:12:10,174 recognize those with you where 238 00:12:10,174 --> 00:12:12,174 the certificates. 239 00:12:13,744 --> 00:12:13,878 Right here. So. 240 00:12:13,878 --> 00:12:14,245 I 241 00:12:14,245 --> 00:12:15,914 m going to. 242 00:12:15,914 --> 00:12:16,214 Let. 243 00:12:16,214 --> 00:12:17,348 So I 244 00:12:17,348 --> 00:12:20,484 m going to start with the 245 00:12:20,484 --> 00:12:22,587 12 u team. And council member 246 00:12:22,587 --> 00:12:24,556 Tonya Foreman would like to 247 00:12:24,556 --> 00:12:25,823 present you with a certificate. 248 00:12:25,823 --> 00:12:27,240 Well, let me see if I can get 249 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,624 this going right here. So we 250 00:12:32,796 --> 00:12:35,196 have, uh, Cruz Arrington. 251 00:12:37,101 --> 00:12:39,101 Domini Byram. 252 00:12:40,337 --> 00:12:42,337 Congratulations. 253 00:12:43,941 --> 00:12:45,410 Amari Smith. 254 00:12:45,410 --> 00:12:47,410 Congratulation. 255 00:12:55,486 --> 00:12:57,886 Jj Jones. Kamari. Farmer. 256 00:13:01,292 --> 00:13:03,692 Carter. Smith. Jordan. Smith. 257 00:13:05,930 --> 00:13:08,330 Zion. Cherry. Kaden. Taft. 258 00:13:09,166 --> 00:13:11,566 Troy. Harris and Jeremiah 259 00:13:16,107 --> 00:13:16,407 Williams. What a great honor. 260 00:13:16,407 --> 00:13:18,407 Guys, let 261 00:13:27,151 --> 00:13:30,751 s give them a. Now we 262 00:13:34,692 --> 00:13:37,228 have the high school kids. 263 00:13:37,228 --> 00:13:37,395 Okay. 264 00:13:37,395 --> 00:13:39,395 Let 265 00:13:41,599 --> 00:13:45,199 s try to double team this. 266 00:13:50,207 --> 00:13:52,607 We have Brenden Porter. 267 00:13:54,479 --> 00:13:56,479 Christian Eisler. 268 00:13:58,816 --> 00:14:00,816 Not here. 269 00:14:07,825 --> 00:14:10,825 Uh, Jackson Foster. Jalen Rasco. 270 00:14:17,201 --> 00:14:19,601 Keyon Beal. Keyshawn farmer. 271 00:14:26,544 --> 00:14:28,944 Landon. Ashley. Loyalty. Fuller. 272 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,488 Enrique. Beal. Bonham. Ty. 273 00:14:43,962 --> 00:14:44,629 Daniels. And where 274 00:14:44,629 --> 00:14:44,829 s coach at? 275 00:14:44,829 --> 00:14:45,763 Where 276 00:14:45,763 --> 00:14:47,310 s Antoine. 277 00:14:47,310 --> 00:14:49,310 At? 278 00:14:51,803 --> 00:14:55,403 Come on up, dude. And, uh, 279 00:15:06,517 --> 00:15:08,320 Coach Smith. Tony. 280 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,820 Amari. 281 00:15:09,820 --> 00:15:10,121 And Kamari. I 282 00:15:10,121 --> 00:15:12,121 d like to 283 00:15:16,761 --> 00:15:17,610 recognize Kamara as well. So 284 00:15:17,610 --> 00:15:18,162 now I 285 00:15:18,162 --> 00:15:21,162 ll turn it over to 286 00:15:21,266 --> 00:15:23,266 council members. 287 00:15:23,434 --> 00:15:25,503 I just want to make sure that 288 00:15:25,503 --> 00:15:27,903 these teams are acknowledged 289 00:15:28,138 --> 00:15:30,441 for their hard work, their 290 00:15:30,441 --> 00:15:31,676 commitment and excellence, as 291 00:15:31,676 --> 00:15:33,100 well as the coaches and the 292 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:35,379 families that have supported 293 00:15:35,379 --> 00:15:36,847 them to accomplish these goals. 294 00:15:36,847 --> 00:15:38,516 These are great accomplishments 295 00:15:38,516 --> 00:15:38,649 that they work very hard for. 296 00:15:38,649 --> 00:15:40,649 I 297 00:15:41,486 --> 00:15:43,254 m proud of you guys. 298 00:15:43,254 --> 00:15:44,355 Also, I want to echo that too. 299 00:15:44,355 --> 00:15:44,556 Congratulations, guys. It 300 00:15:44,556 --> 00:15:45,456 s 301 00:15:45,456 --> 00:15:46,924 awesome to be able to see you 302 00:15:46,924 --> 00:15:47,926 guys competing at such a high 303 00:15:47,926 --> 00:15:49,926 level, representing our 304 00:15:50,161 --> 00:15:51,362 community, going out there and 305 00:15:51,362 --> 00:15:53,164 showing good sportsmanship. 306 00:15:53,164 --> 00:15:54,966 Thank you to the coaches. Uh, 307 00:15:54,966 --> 00:15:56,600 the coaches, uh, are they pour 308 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,300 a lot of their time and effort 309 00:15:58,300 --> 00:15:58,836 into making sure that they 310 00:15:58,836 --> 00:15:58,970 teach you the game, but they 311 00:15:58,970 --> 00:16:00,104 re 312 00:16:00,104 --> 00:16:00,471 also teaching you other things, 313 00:16:00,471 --> 00:16:01,600 too, that you 314 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,440 re going to take 315 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,642 the rest of your life. So thank 316 00:16:03,642 --> 00:16:04,750 you for doing that and stepping 317 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:04,676 up. It 318 00:16:04,676 --> 00:16:05,110 s not easy. It 319 00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:06,310 s a huge 320 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:06,477 time commitment. I know that. 321 00:16:06,477 --> 00:16:06,777 It 322 00:16:06,777 --> 00:16:07,511 s, uh, it 323 00:16:07,511 --> 00:16:09,380 s tough sometimes 324 00:16:09,380 --> 00:16:09,614 you have to take off work. Uh, 325 00:16:09,614 --> 00:16:10,548 but it 326 00:16:10,548 --> 00:16:11,549 s good. And I think 327 00:16:11,549 --> 00:16:12,490 these guys will appreciate 328 00:16:12,490 --> 00:16:12,483 everything that you 329 00:16:12,483 --> 00:16:13,851 ve done 330 00:16:13,851 --> 00:16:13,985 over this season. And they 331 00:16:13,985 --> 00:16:14,986 re 332 00:16:14,986 --> 00:16:17,288 going to continue to look back 333 00:16:17,288 --> 00:16:19,123 at you as a good role model for 334 00:16:19,123 --> 00:16:22,723 making them better in life as 335 00:16:31,802 --> 00:16:35,402 they get older. So thank you. 336 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,280 Okay. All right. 337 00:17:05,337 --> 00:17:05,837 For. All right. 338 00:17:05,837 --> 00:17:07,837 Now I 339 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:09,640 d like to invite the 252 340 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,240 ladies warms up here. Come on 341 00:17:42,406 --> 00:17:45,406 ladies. All right. These young 342 00:17:57,889 --> 00:18:00,391 ladies are swarming the stage. 343 00:18:00,391 --> 00:18:02,494 All right. Again, it is my 344 00:18:02,494 --> 00:18:04,262 honor to recognize the two, 345 00:18:04,262 --> 00:18:07,862 five, two ladies swarm. This is 346 00:18:07,932 --> 00:18:09,634 a local, uh, a local aew team 347 00:18:09,634 --> 00:18:11,602 that has achieved remarkable 348 00:18:11,602 --> 00:18:14,200 success in their inaugural 349 00:18:14,439 --> 00:18:15,874 inaugural year of competition. 350 00:18:15,874 --> 00:18:17,809 The team is made up of players 351 00:18:17,809 --> 00:18:19,376 from Pitt County, many of whom 352 00:18:19,376 --> 00:18:20,511 have previously played together 353 00:18:20,511 --> 00:18:22,213 in all star leagues and 354 00:18:22,213 --> 00:18:24,613 tournaments, with a regular 355 00:18:24,615 --> 00:18:25,717 season record of 16 and five, 356 00:18:25,717 --> 00:18:27,685 they earned the opportunity to 357 00:18:27,685 --> 00:18:29,554 compete at Nationals in 358 00:18:29,554 --> 00:18:31,756 Virginia Beach. They came 359 00:18:31,756 --> 00:18:34,580 second to a more seasonal and 360 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:35,826 experienced team, just shy of 361 00:18:35,826 --> 00:18:37,128 the championship by one point, 362 00:18:37,128 --> 00:18:38,696 which is basically basically 363 00:18:38,696 --> 00:18:40,598 winning. Their outstanding 364 00:18:40,598 --> 00:18:42,534 performance is a tournament to 365 00:18:42,534 --> 00:18:44,769 their strong work ethic, 366 00:18:44,769 --> 00:18:46,471 determination and discipline. 367 00:18:46,471 --> 00:18:47,872 Now, I would also like to 368 00:18:47,872 --> 00:18:49,941 recognize each of you young 369 00:18:49,941 --> 00:18:52,244 ladies and present you with a 370 00:18:52,244 --> 00:18:53,311 certificate. We have scholar 371 00:18:53,311 --> 00:18:55,311 Zachary. 372 00:18:55,446 --> 00:18:57,446 All. 373 00:19:06,291 --> 00:19:08,691 London Pierce. Eva. Kate 374 00:19:13,531 --> 00:19:15,531 Stilton. Chelsea. Wilkes. 375 00:19:26,444 --> 00:19:28,844 Brielle. Little. Zoe. Watts. 376 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:44,759 Jory. Morgan. Shayna. Heath. I 377 00:19:45,930 --> 00:19:48,930 love this name. Carmen. Cordon. 378 00:19:49,801 --> 00:19:51,269 Oh. 379 00:19:51,269 --> 00:19:53,370 I have to get. I have to get my 380 00:19:53,370 --> 00:19:56,637 spell checker. Get on my spell. 381 00:19:57,375 --> 00:19:59,375 Checker. Uh. 382 00:20:13,591 --> 00:20:13,758 Uh, Levy. Mia. Perry. And we. 383 00:20:13,758 --> 00:20:14,692 Let 384 00:20:14,692 --> 00:20:14,992 s all give them another 385 00:20:14,992 --> 00:20:16,992 round of. 386 00:20:24,402 --> 00:20:25,236 Applause. 387 00:20:25,236 --> 00:20:27,705 Anything else? What are you. 388 00:20:27,705 --> 00:20:29,705 Did? 389 00:20:43,121 --> 00:20:45,157 Yeah. Fumbling. So I want to 390 00:20:45,157 --> 00:20:46,757 reiterate the congratulations 391 00:20:46,757 --> 00:20:48,493 that I have for these young 392 00:20:48,493 --> 00:20:49,995 ladies. I have seen them play. 393 00:20:49,995 --> 00:20:52,497 And these are some real 394 00:20:52,497 --> 00:20:54,466 ballers. You all. Um, also, I 395 00:20:54,466 --> 00:20:56,467 want to elevate Mia Perry 396 00:20:56,467 --> 00:20:58,669 because I understand that she 397 00:20:58,669 --> 00:21:01,439 was the highest scorer as well 398 00:21:01,439 --> 00:21:04,776 as, um, had the most rebounds. 399 00:21:04,776 --> 00:21:05,760 Is that correct? Huh? She 400 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,760 s 401 00:21:08,647 --> 00:21:08,813 acting shy. Alrighty. Okay, so 402 00:21:08,813 --> 00:21:09,848 we 403 00:21:09,848 --> 00:21:11,650 re gonna elevate her for 404 00:21:11,650 --> 00:21:12,984 that and, um, and congratulate 405 00:21:12,984 --> 00:21:14,252 the coaches also, thank you 406 00:21:14,252 --> 00:21:17,852 guys for everything you do in 407 00:21:20,158 --> 00:21:22,930 our community. 408 00:21:22,930 --> 00:21:22,561 Congratulations, ladies. Again. 409 00:21:22,561 --> 00:21:23,995 Um, I 410 00:21:23,995 --> 00:21:25,164 m not going to say that I 411 00:21:25,164 --> 00:21:26,197 who it was, but I talked to one 412 00:21:26,197 --> 00:21:26,965 of the ladies up here, and I 413 00:21:26,965 --> 00:21:29,330 asked them if they could take 414 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:31,269 the guys, and they gave me a. 415 00:21:31,269 --> 00:21:32,470 Yeah. So, hey, I 416 00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:34,272 m just saying. 417 00:21:34,272 --> 00:21:35,106 So if something. Hey, if 418 00:21:35,106 --> 00:21:36,107 something takes place in the 419 00:21:36,107 --> 00:21:38,477 parking lot down there, I get 420 00:21:38,477 --> 00:21:38,743 it, okay. Hey. Congratulations, 421 00:21:38,743 --> 00:21:39,377 lady. We 422 00:21:39,377 --> 00:21:39,810 re really proud of 423 00:21:39,810 --> 00:21:40,745 you. I think it 424 00:21:40,745 --> 00:21:42,314 s awesome the 425 00:21:42,314 --> 00:21:43,948 accomplishment that you, uh, 426 00:21:43,948 --> 00:21:45,382 you were able to to accomplish 427 00:21:45,382 --> 00:21:45,684 with, uh, coming in second 428 00:21:45,684 --> 00:21:47,850 place. That 429 00:21:47,850 --> 00:21:48,180 s awesome. Hey, the 430 00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:48,353 one thing I always tell my 431 00:21:48,353 --> 00:21:49,387 girls. I 432 00:21:49,387 --> 00:21:50,722 m a coach. I coach 433 00:21:50,722 --> 00:21:52,924 softball. One thing I always 434 00:21:52,924 --> 00:21:54,859 tell them is, is when you lose, 435 00:21:54,859 --> 00:21:56,294 make sure you take that the 436 00:21:56,294 --> 00:21:57,562 next game that you play and 437 00:21:57,562 --> 00:21:58,763 make you work even harder. So 438 00:21:58,763 --> 00:21:58,997 that that next time you 439 00:21:58,997 --> 00:21:59,764 re the 440 00:21:59,764 --> 00:22:00,640 one celebrating, you 441 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,366 re not the 442 00:22:01,366 --> 00:22:02,400 one with your heads down, 443 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:02,600 crying and upset that you 444 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,768 didn 445 00:22:03,768 --> 00:22:05,700 t win. Make sure that you 446 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:06,504 always work as hard as you 447 00:22:06,504 --> 00:22:07,706 possibly can, because it will 448 00:22:07,706 --> 00:22:09,774 translate from what you do on 449 00:22:09,774 --> 00:22:10,975 the basketball court into life. 450 00:22:10,975 --> 00:22:11,709 And make sure that you work as 451 00:22:11,709 --> 00:22:12,510 hard as you possibly can, 452 00:22:12,510 --> 00:22:13,244 because anything that you want 453 00:22:13,244 --> 00:22:14,312 to do in life, you can 454 00:22:14,312 --> 00:22:16,712 accomplish and never forget 455 00:22:24,623 --> 00:22:26,623 that. Congratulations. 456 00:22:44,420 --> 00:22:44,842 I sounds great. 457 00:22:44,842 --> 00:22:46,244 You know, I 458 00:22:46,244 --> 00:22:46,444 m used to it. 459 00:22:46,444 --> 00:22:48,444 That 460 00:22:48,713 --> 00:22:49,313 s all that. Hey. 461 00:22:49,313 --> 00:22:50,214 It happens, man. 462 00:22:50,214 --> 00:22:51,649 You got. 463 00:22:51,649 --> 00:22:53,851 I try to give a hand. 464 00:22:53,851 --> 00:22:54,319 To shrug it off. I 465 00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:56,319 ll sit right 466 00:22:57,389 --> 00:22:57,856 here. All right? 467 00:22:57,856 --> 00:22:59,357 I won 468 00:22:59,357 --> 00:23:01,392 t be the last time. 469 00:23:01,392 --> 00:23:02,193 I hear the Lady Swarm team is 470 00:23:02,193 --> 00:23:02,460 they got a team. I 471 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:02,660 ve heard 472 00:23:02,660 --> 00:23:03,261 there 473 00:23:03,261 --> 00:23:03,628 s some ballers. That 474 00:23:03,628 --> 00:23:05,363 s a 475 00:23:05,363 --> 00:23:07,132 really good place, I really do. 476 00:23:07,132 --> 00:23:08,320 I got the inside track. 477 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,432 You would be surprised. 478 00:23:10,768 --> 00:23:11,169 I probably about 30, huh? So 479 00:23:11,169 --> 00:23:12,904 first, here 480 00:23:12,904 --> 00:23:14,500 s, you know. Can 481 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:14,706 you imagine? So I 482 00:23:14,706 --> 00:23:14,939 d love to see 483 00:23:14,939 --> 00:23:15,740 it. I 484 00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:16,307 d love to see it. 485 00:23:16,307 --> 00:23:17,709 And they 486 00:23:17,709 --> 00:23:20,109 re at various schools 487 00:23:20,445 --> 00:23:20,812 around the city. So.. 488 00:23:20,812 --> 00:23:22,113 Yeah. 489 00:23:22,113 --> 00:23:23,140 Can you play basketball? 490 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:23,682 I was a point guard. 491 00:23:23,682 --> 00:23:25,830 Oh. Are you. 492 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:27,285 Where are you? Good shooter. 493 00:23:27,285 --> 00:23:29,120 I was yeah, I was. 494 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:29,487 I could imagine. 495 00:23:29,487 --> 00:23:30,622 You know. 496 00:23:30,622 --> 00:23:31,890 Did you break some ankles? 497 00:23:31,890 --> 00:23:33,291 I was a Dennis Rodman a 498 00:23:33,291 --> 00:23:34,126 rebound. Oh, I was pretty good. 499 00:23:34,126 --> 00:23:34,258 No good. Hi. 500 00:23:34,258 --> 00:23:34,426 I 501 00:23:34,426 --> 00:23:35,160 m. I 502 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,293 m pretty good. 503 00:23:35,293 --> 00:23:36,280 I 504 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,160 m gonna have to. 505 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,928 I 506 00:23:36,928 --> 00:23:37,328 m gonna have to look up some 507 00:23:37,328 --> 00:23:39,328 of that. 508 00:23:44,236 --> 00:23:45,937 Footage. All right. 509 00:23:45,937 --> 00:23:46,710 Okay, good. All right, we 510 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:46,971 ll 511 00:23:46,971 --> 00:23:48,390 move on to the public comment. 512 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:48,907 Period of time periods. Period. 513 00:23:48,907 --> 00:23:49,841 Reserve for comments to public 514 00:23:49,841 --> 00:23:50,708 items that were scheduled to be 515 00:23:50,708 --> 00:23:51,442 a subject of a hearing. 516 00:23:51,442 --> 00:23:52,176 Conducted this meeting or 517 00:23:52,176 --> 00:23:53,678 another meeting in the same 518 00:23:53,678 --> 00:23:54,445 week shall not be discussed. A 519 00:23:54,445 --> 00:23:55,447 total of 30 minutes is 520 00:23:55,447 --> 00:23:56,147 allocated, with each individual 521 00:23:56,147 --> 00:23:57,549 being allowed no more than 522 00:23:57,549 --> 00:23:59,684 three minutes. Individuals who 523 00:23:59,684 --> 00:24:00,552 register will speak or register 524 00:24:00,552 --> 00:24:02,219 with the City Clerk will speak 525 00:24:02,219 --> 00:24:02,954 in the order registered until 526 00:24:02,954 --> 00:24:04,255 the allotted 30 minutes 527 00:24:04,255 --> 00:24:05,900 expires. If time remains after 528 00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:06,191 all persons have registered 529 00:24:06,191 --> 00:24:06,992 have spoken, individuals did 530 00:24:06,992 --> 00:24:07,959 not register will have an 531 00:24:07,959 --> 00:24:09,940 opportunity to until the lot of 532 00:24:09,940 --> 00:24:10,762 30 minutes expires. MADAM 533 00:24:10,762 --> 00:24:12,430 Clerk, our first speaker. 534 00:24:12,430 --> 00:24:13,765 Yes, sir. First speaker is MISS 535 00:24:13,765 --> 00:24:14,632 Gwen Green. You have three 536 00:24:14,632 --> 00:24:15,967 minutes to address the mayor 537 00:24:15,967 --> 00:24:18,967 and council at that podium 538 00:24:20,872 --> 00:24:21,720 right there. 539 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Today 540 00:24:30,248 --> 00:24:32,248 s date. 541 00:24:33,151 --> 00:24:35,653 Mayor Conley, Mayor Pro Tem 542 00:24:35,653 --> 00:24:37,488 Forman, city council members, 543 00:24:37,488 --> 00:24:39,891 city staff and members of the 544 00:24:39,891 --> 00:24:40,791 community. Good evening. 545 00:24:40,791 --> 00:24:40,925 Good evening. 546 00:24:40,925 --> 00:24:42,925 I 547 00:24:42,928 --> 00:24:43,394 m Gwen Green. I 548 00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:45,394 m a 549 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:47,298 Greenville resident. And I 550 00:24:47,298 --> 00:24:48,934 think of myself as being a 551 00:24:48,934 --> 00:24:51,334 vested and involved community 552 00:24:51,536 --> 00:24:53,138 member. I serve in 553 00:24:53,138 --> 00:24:55,173 organizations like Delta Sigma 554 00:24:55,173 --> 00:24:57,275 Theta sorority. I serve on many 555 00:24:57,275 --> 00:24:58,709 community committees. The 556 00:24:58,709 --> 00:24:59,944 National Council of Negro Women 557 00:24:59,944 --> 00:25:01,647 where I serve on the Budget and 558 00:25:01,647 --> 00:25:01,947 Finance Committee. I 559 00:25:01,947 --> 00:25:03,748 m a 560 00:25:03,748 --> 00:25:06,684 regular volunteer at my church, 561 00:25:06,684 --> 00:25:08,620 Koinonia Christian Center. I 562 00:25:08,620 --> 00:25:09,621 also volunteered with the West 563 00:25:09,621 --> 00:25:11,220 Greenville Health Council, 564 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:13,124 where I co-wrote the proposal 565 00:25:13,124 --> 00:25:14,959 that brought face masks, hand 566 00:25:14,959 --> 00:25:16,428 sanitizer and other supplies to 567 00:25:16,428 --> 00:25:18,428 nonprofits, community 568 00:25:18,430 --> 00:25:19,898 organizations, and churches, 569 00:25:19,898 --> 00:25:21,266 along with now volunteering 570 00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:21,499 with Pastor Rodney Coles of the 571 00:25:21,499 --> 00:25:22,967 church 572 00:25:22,967 --> 00:25:23,568 s outreach network to 573 00:25:23,568 --> 00:25:24,402 establish children 574 00:25:24,402 --> 00:25:26,305 s book clubs 575 00:25:26,305 --> 00:25:26,538 and afterschool programs, we 576 00:25:26,538 --> 00:25:28,139 re 577 00:25:28,139 --> 00:25:30,841 hoping to disrupt the school to 578 00:25:30,841 --> 00:25:33,841 prison pipeline. And before I 579 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:35,180 moved here some 12 years ago, I 580 00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:36,914 volunteered with a number of 581 00:25:36,914 --> 00:25:38,450 other volunteer organizations, 582 00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:40,450 including a community 583 00:25:40,918 --> 00:25:43,318 development board and a 584 00:25:44,890 --> 00:25:46,489 redevelopment board. In total 585 00:25:46,958 --> 00:25:48,250 transparency. I also serve as a 586 00:25:48,250 --> 00:25:50,425 commissioner on the Housing 587 00:25:50,595 --> 00:25:53,431 Authority of Greenville and in 588 00:25:53,431 --> 00:25:55,933 fact serve as its chair 589 00:25:55,933 --> 00:25:57,680 tonight. However, in the time I 590 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,103 have left, I 591 00:25:58,103 --> 00:26:00,272 d like to allay 592 00:26:00,272 --> 00:26:04,472 the fears of some of the city 593 00:26:06,411 --> 00:26:08,411 councilors. The Housing 594 00:26:09,281 --> 00:26:11,550 Authority staff truly are 595 00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:13,985 working every day to provide 596 00:26:13,985 --> 00:26:16,985 safe, decent housing for our 597 00:26:17,955 --> 00:26:19,824 residents. I will concede to 598 00:26:19,824 --> 00:26:20,892 you that they 599 00:26:20,892 --> 00:26:22,892 re working under 600 00:26:23,328 --> 00:26:25,328 some very difficult 601 00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:28,399 circumstances. Most of our 602 00:26:28,399 --> 00:26:30,368 facilities are some 4050 years 603 00:26:30,368 --> 00:26:34,568 old. It gets real hard to fix 604 00:26:34,872 --> 00:26:37,408 those up and clean them up to 605 00:26:37,408 --> 00:26:41,800 the standard that we would all 606 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:42,414 like to live in. However. I 607 00:26:42,414 --> 00:26:43,515 d 608 00:26:43,515 --> 00:26:45,283 like to address a couple of 609 00:26:45,283 --> 00:26:48,283 other issues that were raised 610 00:26:48,453 --> 00:26:52,530 in your work session, one of 611 00:26:52,124 --> 00:26:54,659 which was the inspire report. 612 00:26:54,659 --> 00:26:58,259 As it was presented. It truly 613 00:26:59,197 --> 00:27:00,331 was pretty alarming. However, I 614 00:27:00,331 --> 00:27:02,600 want you to know the Housing 615 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,402 Authority staff was responsive 616 00:27:04,402 --> 00:27:08,200 to all the issues that were 617 00:27:08,306 --> 00:27:10,475 outlined in the inspire reports. 618 00:27:10,475 --> 00:27:12,875 Life threatening issues as 619 00:27:13,745 --> 00:27:16,745 defined by hud include smoke 620 00:27:17,140 --> 00:27:19,140 detectors, gfci replacements, 621 00:27:19,584 --> 00:27:22,200 rust on electrical panels, all 622 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,557 of which have to be repaired or 623 00:27:25,557 --> 00:27:27,359 replaced within 24 hours. While 624 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,294 non-threatening issues must be 625 00:27:29,294 --> 00:27:29,494 corrected within 30 days. 626 00:27:29,494 --> 00:27:30,595 That 627 00:27:30,595 --> 00:27:31,930 s time. 628 00:27:31,930 --> 00:27:33,930 You keep going. 629 00:27:34,966 --> 00:27:36,701 So the reports for 2024 were 630 00:27:36,701 --> 00:27:38,203 corrected within 24 hours for 631 00:27:38,203 --> 00:27:40,906 things like smoke detectors and 632 00:27:40,906 --> 00:27:42,473 gfci units, including a water 633 00:27:42,473 --> 00:27:44,542 heater flute that had a 634 00:27:44,542 --> 00:27:45,810 downward slope. They were they 635 00:27:45,810 --> 00:27:46,311 were corrected. I 636 00:27:46,311 --> 00:27:48,311 ve got the 637 00:27:48,580 --> 00:27:50,515 details here for you. And a box 638 00:27:50,515 --> 00:27:52,283 back there in case someone here 639 00:27:52,283 --> 00:27:55,883 would like to see the paperwork 640 00:27:58,423 --> 00:28:00,525 itself. As to the finances, 641 00:28:00,525 --> 00:28:02,925 financial reports are provided, 642 00:28:02,928 --> 00:28:05,229 presented and accepted at every 643 00:28:05,229 --> 00:28:07,320 meeting. Reports on rent 644 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,267 collection and defaults are 645 00:28:09,267 --> 00:28:10,769 discussed because that too is a 646 00:28:10,769 --> 00:28:12,403 key responsibility of the 647 00:28:12,403 --> 00:28:14,572 Housing authority to collect 648 00:28:14,572 --> 00:28:17,476 the rents and by federal 649 00:28:17,476 --> 00:28:19,644 mandate and outside audit is 650 00:28:19,644 --> 00:28:21,146 conducted annually by a 651 00:28:21,146 --> 00:28:22,715 reputable financial 652 00:28:22,715 --> 00:28:24,682 organization that is actually 653 00:28:24,682 --> 00:28:26,485 switched out every three years 654 00:28:26,485 --> 00:28:29,153 to ensure that we are going to 655 00:28:29,153 --> 00:28:29,554 get fair representation of the 656 00:28:29,554 --> 00:28:30,388 work that we 657 00:28:30,388 --> 00:28:32,190 re doing. The 658 00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:34,792 latest audit was conducted by 659 00:28:34,792 --> 00:28:37,792 Rector, Lofton and Reeder for 660 00:28:38,497 --> 00:28:38,663 the fiscal year 2025, and I 661 00:28:38,663 --> 00:28:39,865 ll 662 00:28:39,865 --> 00:28:41,800 read very quickly their 663 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,834 opinion. In our opinion, the 664 00:28:42,834 --> 00:28:44,360 accompanying financial 665 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,871 statements referred to above 666 00:28:45,871 --> 00:28:47,672 present fairly in all material 667 00:28:47,672 --> 00:28:48,807 respects, the respective 668 00:28:48,807 --> 00:28:50,141 financial position of the 669 00:28:50,141 --> 00:28:51,242 business type activities of the 670 00:28:51,242 --> 00:28:53,111 Housing Authority of the City 671 00:28:53,111 --> 00:28:55,947 of Greenville. As of SEPTEMBER 672 00:28:55,947 --> 00:28:57,415 30th, 2025, and the respective 673 00:28:57,415 --> 00:28:58,883 changes in financial position 674 00:28:58,883 --> 00:29:00,485 and where applicable, cash 675 00:29:00,485 --> 00:29:01,920 flows thereof for the year then 676 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,522 ended in accordance with 677 00:29:03,522 --> 00:29:05,156 accounting principles generally 678 00:29:05,156 --> 00:29:07,826 accepted in the United States 679 00:29:07,826 --> 00:29:09,270 of America as to a work order 680 00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:10,728 process, none of us are 681 00:29:10,728 --> 00:29:12,497 satisfied with the existing 682 00:29:12,497 --> 00:29:14,499 process. The. The board 683 00:29:14,499 --> 00:29:16,734 receives a work order report 684 00:29:16,734 --> 00:29:18,437 every month it gets discussed. 685 00:29:18,437 --> 00:29:19,871 If not every meeting, then 686 00:29:19,871 --> 00:29:21,873 every other meeting. The need 687 00:29:21,873 --> 00:29:25,473 for a better system is, without 688 00:29:25,477 --> 00:29:26,678 question, needed. However, the 689 00:29:26,678 --> 00:29:29,780 Housing Authority is going 690 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,480 through a total software 691 00:29:32,284 --> 00:29:34,684 transition. The transition is 692 00:29:35,687 --> 00:29:37,689 being phased in so that we want 693 00:29:37,689 --> 00:29:38,990 to make sure that things like 694 00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:41,325 grant funding is being 695 00:29:41,325 --> 00:29:43,725 accounted for properly, that 696 00:29:43,928 --> 00:29:45,430 our, um, accounts receivables 697 00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:45,630 and account payables, that it 698 00:29:45,630 --> 00:29:47,630 s 699 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,468 working. And so if you will, 700 00:29:50,468 --> 00:29:52,871 the deadline for all of this 701 00:29:52,871 --> 00:29:55,871 phased phasing in will be 702 00:29:56,374 --> 00:29:57,743 completed by DECEMBER of 2026. 703 00:29:57,743 --> 00:29:57,909 But you got to give us time. 704 00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:59,770 We 705 00:29:59,770 --> 00:30:00,845 re not satisfied with the 706 00:30:00,845 --> 00:30:02,147 processes it currently is. We 707 00:30:02,147 --> 00:30:04,182 want tenants. We want our 708 00:30:04,182 --> 00:30:06,518 residents to be able to know 709 00:30:06,518 --> 00:30:08,386 that their work order has been 710 00:30:08,386 --> 00:30:08,520 accepted. Finally, as I know 711 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,520 I 712 00:30:10,955 --> 00:30:11,190 m running out of time, I 713 00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:12,657 ve 714 00:30:12,657 --> 00:30:15,894 reached out to our Mayor Pro 715 00:30:15,894 --> 00:30:17,529 Tem at our last board meeting, 716 00:30:17,529 --> 00:30:18,796 I stated that we needed to get 717 00:30:18,796 --> 00:30:20,933 into a better relationship with 718 00:30:20,933 --> 00:30:23,201 the city, that it would not be 719 00:30:23,201 --> 00:30:25,300 possible to easily build brand 720 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:26,671 new structures, brand new homes 721 00:30:26,671 --> 00:30:28,873 without support from the city. 722 00:30:28,873 --> 00:30:30,308 Members of City Council. I 723 00:30:30,308 --> 00:30:32,977 stand here this evening telling 724 00:30:32,977 --> 00:30:35,313 you I suffer with housing 725 00:30:35,313 --> 00:30:37,949 authority envy. I envy the 726 00:30:37,949 --> 00:30:39,851 Denver, the Durham Housing 727 00:30:39,851 --> 00:30:40,510 Authority because right now 728 00:30:40,510 --> 00:30:41,386 they 729 00:30:41,386 --> 00:30:43,255 ve got three developments 730 00:30:43,255 --> 00:30:44,889 in process various stages of 731 00:30:44,889 --> 00:30:46,858 development, one of which 732 00:30:46,858 --> 00:30:48,493 includes the Hey Ty village, 733 00:30:48,493 --> 00:30:49,494 which some of you MAY remember 734 00:30:49,494 --> 00:30:50,195 and recall. That 735 00:30:50,195 --> 00:30:50,528 s Durham 736 00:30:50,528 --> 00:30:52,528 s 737 00:30:56,234 --> 00:30:56,668 black market. Black Wall 738 00:30:56,668 --> 00:30:58,668 Street, I 739 00:30:59,204 --> 00:31:01,106 m sorry. There are 740 00:31:01,106 --> 00:31:02,674 many phrases that come to mind 741 00:31:02,674 --> 00:31:05,740 to describe the current 742 00:31:05,944 --> 00:31:07,946 situation. I think a failure to 743 00:31:07,946 --> 00:31:10,681 communicate at this point in 744 00:31:10,681 --> 00:31:12,151 time probably says it best. And 745 00:31:12,151 --> 00:31:13,185 so it is that I ask that a 746 00:31:13,185 --> 00:31:15,286 meeting be held with the 747 00:31:15,286 --> 00:31:16,688 Housing Authority to better 748 00:31:16,688 --> 00:31:18,790 understand not only what is 749 00:31:18,790 --> 00:31:19,958 being done, but what has been 750 00:31:19,958 --> 00:31:20,458 accomplished and what we 751 00:31:20,458 --> 00:31:22,458 d like 752 00:31:22,494 --> 00:31:23,662 to see going forward. Though 753 00:31:23,662 --> 00:31:24,863 there have been some quarterly 754 00:31:24,863 --> 00:31:26,970 managers meeting with city 755 00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:28,967 staff, clearly there needs to 756 00:31:28,967 --> 00:31:30,350 be more so that respectful and 757 00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:31,536 respected lines of 758 00:31:31,536 --> 00:31:33,238 communication can be 759 00:31:33,238 --> 00:31:34,940 established. I thank you all 760 00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:35,240 for listening. Thank you. 761 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Thank you. 762 00:31:37,642 --> 00:31:39,642 MR. Green. 763 00:31:39,745 --> 00:31:41,745 Thank you. 764 00:31:41,846 --> 00:31:43,810 MADAM Clerk, our next speaker. 765 00:31:43,810 --> 00:31:43,882 We do not have any additional 766 00:31:43,882 --> 00:31:44,749 registered speakers. 767 00:31:44,749 --> 00:31:45,650 Anyone else would like speak 768 00:31:45,650 --> 00:31:46,384 during the public period. 769 00:31:46,384 --> 00:31:48,530 Please come forward. State your 770 00:31:48,530 --> 00:31:51,653 name. For the record, you have 771 00:32:00,198 --> 00:32:00,532 three minutes. All right. See 772 00:32:00,532 --> 00:32:01,333 you now. We 773 00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:01,633 ll close the public 774 00:32:01,633 --> 00:32:03,633 hearing. We 775 00:32:04,602 --> 00:32:07,720 ll move on to our 776 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:07,639 appointments. MADAM Clerk. 777 00:32:07,639 --> 00:32:09,440 Okay? 778 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,843 Yes, sir. First appointment 779 00:32:10,843 --> 00:32:11,877 that we have is to the Invest 780 00:32:11,877 --> 00:32:13,278 Greenville Board. That 781 00:32:13,278 --> 00:32:14,679 s, um, a 782 00:32:14,679 --> 00:32:16,810 nomination made by you, Mayor 783 00:32:16,810 --> 00:32:18,810 Connolly. 784 00:32:19,284 --> 00:32:20,519 I would like to reappoint, uh, 785 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:21,119 MR. Robert Cherry. 786 00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:21,687 Okay. They 787 00:32:21,687 --> 00:32:22,587 ll need some help. 788 00:32:22,587 --> 00:32:23,540 Make a motion. 789 00:32:23,540 --> 00:32:24,422 Motion to. 790 00:32:24,422 --> 00:32:25,890 Appoint Robert Cherry second. 791 00:32:25,890 --> 00:32:27,250 All right. Motion by MAY. By 792 00:32:27,250 --> 00:32:28,760 Councilmember Robinson. Second 793 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,494 by Councilmember Jones. All 794 00:32:29,494 --> 00:32:30,280 those in favor say aye. 795 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,896 Aye, aye. 796 00:32:30,896 --> 00:32:32,330 Those opposed? Nay. 797 00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:34,980 Motion passes five zero. 798 00:32:34,980 --> 00:32:36,980 Congratulations, MR. Cherry. 799 00:32:40,104 --> 00:32:41,600 Okay. And that concludes 800 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:41,673 appointments from West 801 00:32:41,673 --> 00:32:43,475 Greenville. 802 00:32:43,475 --> 00:32:44,542 All right. 803 00:32:44,542 --> 00:32:45,978 Can you roll right on the. 804 00:32:45,978 --> 00:32:47,178 Number five. Okay. 805 00:32:47,178 --> 00:32:48,614 Um, boards and commissions, 806 00:32:48,614 --> 00:32:51,140 board of adjustment. Um, 807 00:32:51,490 --> 00:32:53,490 Councilmember Jones. 808 00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:57,686 I would like to, um, nominate 809 00:32:58,557 --> 00:33:00,425 the Lewis. 810 00:33:00,425 --> 00:33:01,226 All right. Is there a second? 811 00:33:01,226 --> 00:33:01,560 Second? All right. Motion 812 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,361 s 813 00:33:02,361 --> 00:33:03,361 been made by Councilmember 814 00:33:03,361 --> 00:33:04,329 Jones. Thank you, Councilmember 815 00:33:04,329 --> 00:33:04,496 Hardy. All those in favor say 816 00:33:04,496 --> 00:33:05,163 aye. 817 00:33:05,163 --> 00:33:06,165 Aye, aye. 818 00:33:06,165 --> 00:33:07,966 Those opposed. Nay, nay. 819 00:33:07,966 --> 00:33:09,401 Motion passes five zero. 820 00:33:09,401 --> 00:33:10,680 Congratulations. And the Geo. 821 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:10,569 Jones. 822 00:33:10,569 --> 00:33:10,869 Um. 823 00:33:10,869 --> 00:33:12,869 Hello. 824 00:33:13,405 --> 00:33:14,539 Lewis. Lewis. 825 00:33:14,539 --> 00:33:15,908 Yeah. That 826 00:33:15,908 --> 00:33:17,309 s Thursday. 827 00:33:17,309 --> 00:33:18,777 Uh, next we have the 828 00:33:18,777 --> 00:33:20,777 Environmental Advisory 829 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,114 Commission. Um, that that, uh, 830 00:33:23,114 --> 00:33:24,316 appointment is assigned to 831 00:33:24,316 --> 00:33:25,918 Councilmember Skelly, so we 832 00:33:25,918 --> 00:33:27,520 will check with him next month. 833 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,320 Um, next we have the Historic 834 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,454 Preservation Commission. 835 00:33:29,454 --> 00:33:29,754 Council member Hardy. 836 00:33:29,754 --> 00:33:30,422 Uh, let 837 00:33:30,422 --> 00:33:30,955 s continue that, 838 00:33:30,955 --> 00:33:32,955 please. 839 00:33:33,692 --> 00:33:34,893 Okay. Um, we do have the 840 00:33:34,893 --> 00:33:35,994 Housing Authority appointment, 841 00:33:35,994 --> 00:33:37,462 however, that is for the 842 00:33:37,462 --> 00:33:38,563 resident Commissioner seat, and 843 00:33:38,563 --> 00:33:40,310 we are still waiting on a 844 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:41,320 nomination from the residents 845 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:41,667 Council, so I don 846 00:33:41,667 --> 00:33:43,268 t have one to 847 00:33:43,268 --> 00:33:44,702 give to you tonight. Um, 848 00:33:44,702 --> 00:33:45,804 multimodal Transportation 849 00:33:45,804 --> 00:33:46,438 Commission. Council member 850 00:33:46,438 --> 00:33:46,571 Jones. 851 00:33:46,571 --> 00:33:48,240 i 852 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,809 ll let you continue that one. 853 00:33:51,809 --> 00:33:53,111 Okay. Um, also, multimodal 854 00:33:53,111 --> 00:33:54,379 Transportation Commission Mayor 855 00:33:54,379 --> 00:33:55,414 Pro Tem Forman. 856 00:33:55,414 --> 00:33:57,649 I would like to nominate 857 00:33:57,649 --> 00:33:58,417 Jonathan Metellus. 858 00:33:58,417 --> 00:33:58,983 Second. 859 00:33:58,983 --> 00:33:59,818 All right. Motion 860 00:33:59,818 --> 00:34:01,818 s been made 861 00:34:02,187 --> 00:34:03,255 by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Second 862 00:34:03,255 --> 00:34:04,189 by Councilmember Robinson. All 863 00:34:04,189 --> 00:34:05,723 those in favor say aye. Aye, 864 00:34:05,723 --> 00:34:07,726 aye. Those opposed say nay. 865 00:34:07,726 --> 00:34:09,527 Motion passes five zero. 866 00:34:09,527 --> 00:34:10,562 Congratulations, MR. Metellus. 867 00:34:10,562 --> 00:34:12,562 Okay. 868 00:34:12,797 --> 00:34:13,932 Um. Next. Well, no. So 869 00:34:13,932 --> 00:34:15,990 multimodal. Transportation 870 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:15,634 Commission Council member. 871 00:34:15,634 --> 00:34:16,635 Hardy. 872 00:34:16,635 --> 00:34:16,835 I like to continue that as 873 00:34:16,835 --> 00:34:18,835 well. 874 00:34:19,604 --> 00:34:20,705 Okay. Um, next we have the 875 00:34:20,705 --> 00:34:21,806 Greenville Convention and 876 00:34:21,806 --> 00:34:23,141 Visitors Authority. 877 00:34:23,141 --> 00:34:23,442 Councilmember Robinson. 878 00:34:23,442 --> 00:34:24,442 Um. 879 00:34:24,442 --> 00:34:25,444 Intend to meet with Rachel 880 00:34:25,444 --> 00:34:26,945 Whitten before I make that 881 00:34:26,945 --> 00:34:28,130 decision. And she just got in, 882 00:34:28,130 --> 00:34:28,146 so I want to do that. So I 883 00:34:28,146 --> 00:34:29,810 d 884 00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:31,249 ask that be tabled. 885 00:34:31,249 --> 00:34:32,250 Okay. Yes, sir. Um, next we 886 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:33,685 have the planning and Zoning 887 00:34:33,685 --> 00:34:34,353 Commission. Mayor Pro Tem 888 00:34:34,353 --> 00:34:34,486 Forman. 889 00:34:34,486 --> 00:34:36,486 I 890 00:34:37,956 --> 00:34:40,125 ll continue that one. Okay. 891 00:34:40,125 --> 00:34:41,226 Um, police community relations 892 00:34:41,226 --> 00:34:42,261 committee, Councilmember 893 00:34:42,261 --> 00:34:43,428 Robinson. 894 00:34:43,428 --> 00:34:45,828 Uh, continue that, please. 895 00:34:46,397 --> 00:34:47,666 Okay. Yes, sir. Recreation and 896 00:34:47,666 --> 00:34:48,660 parks. Also, Councilmember 897 00:34:48,660 --> 00:34:49,968 Robinson. 898 00:34:49,968 --> 00:34:50,902 I would nominate Brian Fields. 899 00:34:50,902 --> 00:34:52,902 Okay. 900 00:34:54,206 --> 00:34:55,440 All right. Is there a second? I 901 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,409 think I heard of this. I think 902 00:34:57,409 --> 00:34:58,843 I heard a split second there. 903 00:34:58,843 --> 00:34:59,812 Um, motion has been made by 904 00:34:59,812 --> 00:35:00,812 Councilmember Robinson, second 905 00:35:00,812 --> 00:35:01,546 by Councilmember Jones. All 906 00:35:01,546 --> 00:35:02,113 those in favor say aye. 907 00:35:02,113 --> 00:35:03,148 Aye, aye. 908 00:35:03,148 --> 00:35:04,950 Opposed? Say nay. 909 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:06,285 Motion passes five zero. 910 00:35:06,285 --> 00:35:07,152 Congratulations, MR. Fields. 911 00:35:07,152 --> 00:35:08,587 All right, Mayor Conley, that 912 00:35:08,587 --> 00:35:10,255 concludes appointments. 913 00:35:10,255 --> 00:35:11,757 Thank you very much. We will 914 00:35:11,757 --> 00:35:12,758 now move on to new business, 915 00:35:12,758 --> 00:35:13,592 which are the public hearings. 916 00:35:13,592 --> 00:35:14,459 This is the policy of public 917 00:35:14,459 --> 00:35:15,127 hearings adopted by the City 918 00:35:15,127 --> 00:35:15,794 Council, petitioner or 919 00:35:15,794 --> 00:35:16,595 representative of the 920 00:35:16,595 --> 00:35:17,329 petitioner and a leader of 921 00:35:17,329 --> 00:35:17,596 those in opposition. We 922 00:35:17,596 --> 00:35:18,463 ll each 923 00:35:18,463 --> 00:35:18,897 have ten minutes Persis 924 00:35:18,897 --> 00:35:19,198 following. Then we 925 00:35:19,198 --> 00:35:19,998 ll have up 926 00:35:19,998 --> 00:35:20,966 to three minutes each with a 927 00:35:20,966 --> 00:35:22,000 total for each side, no more 928 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,634 than 30 minutes. Additionally, 929 00:35:22,634 --> 00:35:23,368 we will remind those in 930 00:35:23,368 --> 00:35:24,669 attendance to extend the 931 00:35:24,669 --> 00:35:26,700 courtesy to person speaking 932 00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:27,272 during the public hearing and 933 00:35:27,272 --> 00:35:28,807 to the City Council during 934 00:35:28,807 --> 00:35:29,675 discussions. Comments made by 935 00:35:29,675 --> 00:35:30,642 members of the public are to 936 00:35:30,642 --> 00:35:31,643 occur only during the public 937 00:35:31,643 --> 00:35:32,611 hearing is allowed by the mayor 938 00:35:32,611 --> 00:35:33,678 in accordance with the adopted 939 00:35:33,678 --> 00:35:34,213 policy of the City Council. 940 00:35:34,213 --> 00:35:35,213 There should be no 941 00:35:35,213 --> 00:35:35,981 interruptions of speakers or 942 00:35:35,981 --> 00:35:37,382 council members, including 943 00:35:37,382 --> 00:35:38,450 expressions of support or 944 00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:39,217 disagreements or earlier by 945 00:35:39,217 --> 00:35:40,180 applause. As this is 946 00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:41,720 distracting and makes 947 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,221 discussion difficult, we ask 948 00:35:43,221 --> 00:35:45,230 for your cooperation. Thank 949 00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:45,890 you, MR. Manager. Our first 950 00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:47,250 public hearing. 951 00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:48,560 Thank you. Mayor. Item number 952 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,960 six ordinance to annex 953 00:35:51,630 --> 00:35:53,630 Cobblestone South involving 954 00:35:54,465 --> 00:35:55,901 2.2168 acres located east of 955 00:35:55,901 --> 00:35:57,569 Allen Road and at the current 956 00:35:57,569 --> 00:35:57,703 terminus of Quail Drive. I 957 00:35:57,703 --> 00:35:58,837 ll 958 00:35:58,837 --> 00:36:00,572 now call forward our city 959 00:36:00,572 --> 00:36:03,572 planner, Deon Hodge, for the 960 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:05,777 presentation. 961 00:36:05,777 --> 00:36:07,245 Yeah. 962 00:36:07,245 --> 00:36:07,846 Good evening, Mayor and 963 00:36:07,846 --> 00:36:09,846 Council. 964 00:36:11,917 --> 00:36:13,352 Good evening. I like it, I like 965 00:36:13,352 --> 00:36:15,352 it. 966 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,955 This property is located in the 967 00:36:16,955 --> 00:36:19,355 southwestern quadrant of the 968 00:36:20,425 --> 00:36:21,893 city. More specifically, this 969 00:36:21,893 --> 00:36:23,661 property is located east of 970 00:36:23,661 --> 00:36:25,964 Allen Road and at the current 971 00:36:25,964 --> 00:36:27,666 terminus of Quail Drive. The 972 00:36:27,666 --> 00:36:30,135 current city limits are shown 973 00:36:30,135 --> 00:36:32,671 in green. The subject property 974 00:36:32,671 --> 00:36:34,272 is shown in red. This property 975 00:36:34,272 --> 00:36:37,842 is located in the Green Mill 976 00:36:37,842 --> 00:36:39,645 Run watershed. This property is 977 00:36:39,645 --> 00:36:41,680 located in the primary service 978 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,282 area on the tiered growth map, 979 00:36:43,282 --> 00:36:45,830 and would be located in City 980 00:36:45,830 --> 00:36:47,483 Council voting district number 981 00:36:47,552 --> 00:36:49,888 two. This property is 982 00:36:49,888 --> 00:36:51,756 anticipated to yield 1010 983 00:36:51,756 --> 00:36:54,756 single family lots, with an 984 00:36:55,493 --> 00:36:56,829 estimated tax value of $3.25 985 00:36:56,829 --> 00:36:57,196 million. And that 986 00:36:57,196 --> 00:36:59,980 s. This 987 00:36:59,980 --> 00:37:00,532 property is located in the itj. 988 00:37:00,532 --> 00:37:01,833 It is important to note that 989 00:37:01,833 --> 00:37:02,367 under section six of Goose 990 00:37:02,367 --> 00:37:03,969 s 991 00:37:03,969 --> 00:37:05,404 charter, the development can 992 00:37:05,404 --> 00:37:07,380 still be provided. Sanitary 993 00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:08,106 sewer. If the annexation is 994 00:37:08,106 --> 00:37:08,940 denied, and I 995 00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:10,575 d be happy to 996 00:37:10,575 --> 00:37:11,810 answer any questions. 997 00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:13,810 Any questions? 998 00:37:15,647 --> 00:37:19,847 Uh, can you go back to the 999 00:37:21,887 --> 00:37:22,187 first. Uh, move forward? I 1000 00:37:22,187 --> 00:37:24,187 m 1001 00:37:24,622 --> 00:37:24,857 sorry. The map. The first map? 1002 00:37:24,857 --> 00:37:25,991 No, it 1003 00:37:25,991 --> 00:37:28,991 s the second map. Move 1004 00:37:28,994 --> 00:37:32,564 forward with the red one. Yes. 1005 00:37:32,564 --> 00:37:37,364 I just want to look at it again. 1006 00:37:40,839 --> 00:37:41,873 Okay. 1007 00:37:41,873 --> 00:37:43,873 All right. 1008 00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:50,249 Any questions? Thank you very. 1009 00:37:50,249 --> 00:37:51,182 Much. 1010 00:37:51,182 --> 00:37:52,217 All right. The public hearing 1011 00:37:52,217 --> 00:37:53,170 is now open. Those who speak on 1012 00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:53,686 behalf, the applicant MAY come 1013 00:37:53,686 --> 00:37:54,452 forth. Please state your name 1014 00:37:54,452 --> 00:37:55,420 for the record. Your first 1015 00:37:55,420 --> 00:37:58,420 person has ten minutes. All 1016 00:38:07,499 --> 00:38:08,601 others have three minutes. 1017 00:38:08,601 --> 00:38:09,467 Seeing none, those in 1018 00:38:09,467 --> 00:38:10,201 opposition to the applicant 1019 00:38:10,201 --> 00:38:11,200 come forward. Please state your 1020 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,237 name. For the record. The first 1021 00:38:12,237 --> 00:38:15,237 person has ten minutes. All 1022 00:38:26,919 --> 00:38:28,454 others have three minutes. I 1023 00:38:28,454 --> 00:38:29,254 see none. Public hearing is now 1024 00:38:29,254 --> 00:38:30,889 closed up for a board 1025 00:38:30,889 --> 00:38:32,657 discussion or motion. 1026 00:38:32,657 --> 00:38:32,891 Motion to approve. Second. All 1027 00:38:32,891 --> 00:38:34,159 right. 1028 00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:35,226 Motion for MAY by Councilmember 1029 00:38:35,226 --> 00:38:37,626 Willis. Second by Councilmember 1030 00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:38,997 Robinson. Any other discussion? 1031 00:38:38,997 --> 00:38:39,531 All those in favor say aye. 1032 00:38:39,531 --> 00:38:40,733 Aye, aye. 1033 00:38:40,733 --> 00:38:42,670 Those opposed say nay. 1034 00:38:42,670 --> 00:38:43,101 Motion passes five zero. 1035 00:38:43,101 --> 00:38:43,868 Item number seven. 1036 00:38:43,868 --> 00:38:45,103 All right. Thank you. Mayor. 1037 00:38:45,103 --> 00:38:46,772 Item number seven. Ordinance to 1038 00:38:46,772 --> 00:38:48,507 annex Lyndale East. Section 1039 00:38:48,507 --> 00:38:50,907 five, phase two, involving 1040 00:38:50,909 --> 00:38:52,311 10.79 acres located at the 1041 00:38:52,311 --> 00:38:54,446 current terminus of Remington 1042 00:38:54,446 --> 00:38:55,914 Drive and Stonehenge Drive. 1043 00:38:55,914 --> 00:38:57,516 Again, call for our city 1044 00:38:57,516 --> 00:39:00,516 planner, Deon Hodge for the 1045 00:39:05,570 --> 00:39:07,570 presentation. 1046 00:39:07,125 --> 00:39:08,460 So this property is located in 1047 00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:10,762 the southeastern quadrant of 1048 00:39:10,762 --> 00:39:12,263 the city. More specifically, 1049 00:39:12,263 --> 00:39:14,660 this property is located at the 1050 00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:16,466 current termini of Remington 1051 00:39:16,969 --> 00:39:18,537 Drive and Stonehenge Drive. The 1052 00:39:18,537 --> 00:39:20,339 current city limits are shown 1053 00:39:20,339 --> 00:39:22,474 in green. The subject property 1054 00:39:22,474 --> 00:39:24,510 is shown in red. This property 1055 00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:27,450 is located in the Fork Swamp 1056 00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:28,713 watershed. This property is 1057 00:39:28,713 --> 00:39:30,449 located in the primary service 1058 00:39:30,449 --> 00:39:31,984 area on the tiered growth map, 1059 00:39:31,984 --> 00:39:33,485 and will be located in City 1060 00:39:33,485 --> 00:39:35,885 Council voting district number 1061 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,324 four. This property is 1062 00:39:38,324 --> 00:39:40,392 anticipated to yield 21 single 1063 00:39:40,392 --> 00:39:43,392 family lots, with an estimated 1064 00:39:46,297 --> 00:39:47,866 tax value of $14.7 million. And 1065 00:39:47,866 --> 00:39:49,501 as this property is located in 1066 00:39:49,501 --> 00:39:51,136 the itj. It is important to 1067 00:39:51,136 --> 00:39:53,380 note that under section six of 1068 00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:54,706 gcs charter, the development 1069 00:39:54,706 --> 00:39:56,508 can still be provided. Sanitary 1070 00:39:56,508 --> 00:39:57,542 sewer. If the annexation is 1071 00:39:57,542 --> 00:39:58,377 denied, and I 1072 00:39:58,377 --> 00:39:59,711 d be happy to 1073 00:39:59,711 --> 00:40:00,780 answer any questions. 1074 00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:01,513 All right. 1075 00:40:01,513 --> 00:40:02,981 Any questions for MR. Hodge? 1076 00:40:02,981 --> 00:40:03,382 Just one. Do you anticipate 1077 00:40:03,382 --> 00:40:03,982 that when they 1078 00:40:03,982 --> 00:40:04,917 re built out, 1079 00:40:04,917 --> 00:40:06,752 that they will connect to 1080 00:40:06,752 --> 00:40:07,319 Stonehenge so they can exit out 1081 00:40:07,319 --> 00:40:08,753 to Arlington? 1082 00:40:08,753 --> 00:40:09,221 Exactly. Thank you. That seems 1083 00:40:09,221 --> 00:40:09,755 to be the. 1084 00:40:09,755 --> 00:40:10,922 Their goal. 1085 00:40:10,922 --> 00:40:12,922 There. All right. 1086 00:40:15,728 --> 00:40:17,462 Any other questions? Thank you 1087 00:40:17,462 --> 00:40:18,664 very much. Public hearing is 1088 00:40:18,664 --> 00:40:19,465 now open. Those to speak on 1089 00:40:19,465 --> 00:40:20,232 behalf of the applicant MAY 1090 00:40:20,232 --> 00:40:21,320 come forward. Please state your 1091 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,634 name for the record, the first 1092 00:40:22,634 --> 00:40:25,634 person has ten minutes. All 1093 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,278 others have three minutes. 1094 00:40:33,278 --> 00:40:33,411 Good evening. Good evening. 1095 00:40:33,411 --> 00:40:34,680 I 1096 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,148 m Dwight. 1097 00:40:36,148 --> 00:40:36,982 Nelson with Rivers and 1098 00:40:36,982 --> 00:40:37,750 Associates. We 1099 00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:39,952 re the agent for 1100 00:40:39,952 --> 00:40:41,219 the owner. And, uh, be glad to 1101 00:40:41,219 --> 00:40:41,686 answer any questions you MAY 1102 00:40:41,686 --> 00:40:42,320 have. That 1103 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,320 s all. 1104 00:40:51,129 --> 00:40:52,130 All right. Any questions? Thank 1105 00:40:52,130 --> 00:40:54,533 you very much. Thank you. That 1106 00:40:54,533 --> 00:40:54,733 was a great presentation. 1107 00:40:54,733 --> 00:40:55,200 That 1108 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,934 s my. 1109 00:40:55,934 --> 00:40:57,934 Favorites. 1110 00:40:58,300 --> 00:40:58,770 All right. Anyone else is here 1111 00:40:58,770 --> 00:40:59,604 to speak on behalf? The 1112 00:40:59,604 --> 00:41:00,405 applicant MAY come forward. 1113 00:41:00,405 --> 00:41:04,500 Please state your name for the 1114 00:41:13,986 --> 00:41:14,820 record, you have three minutes. 1115 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:15,754 Seeing none, those in 1116 00:41:15,754 --> 00:41:16,521 opposition to the applicant 1117 00:41:16,521 --> 00:41:17,222 come forward. Please state your 1118 00:41:17,222 --> 00:41:18,124 name for the record. The first 1119 00:41:18,124 --> 00:41:21,124 person has ten minutes. All 1120 00:41:29,467 --> 00:41:30,669 others have three minutes. 1121 00:41:30,669 --> 00:41:31,637 Seeing none. Public hearing is 1122 00:41:31,637 --> 00:41:33,405 now closed for a board 1123 00:41:33,405 --> 00:41:35,207 discussion or motion. 1124 00:41:35,207 --> 00:41:36,308 Motion to approve. Second. 1125 00:41:36,308 --> 00:41:37,375 All right. Motion for MAY by 1126 00:41:37,375 --> 00:41:38,277 Councilmember Hardy. Second by 1127 00:41:38,277 --> 00:41:40,277 Councilmember Robinson. Any 1128 00:41:40,712 --> 00:41:42,314 other discussion? All those in 1129 00:41:42,314 --> 00:41:43,115 favor say aye. Aye. Those 1130 00:41:43,115 --> 00:41:45,115 opposed say nay. 1131 00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:45,684 Motion passes five zero. 1132 00:41:45,684 --> 00:41:46,118 All right. Let 1133 00:41:46,118 --> 00:41:47,180 s move on to 1134 00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:48,870 item number eight. 1135 00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:49,621 Thank you. Mayor. Item number 1136 00:41:49,621 --> 00:41:52,210 eight. Ordinance requested by 1137 00:41:53,992 --> 00:41:57,195 pobo llc to rezone a total of 1138 00:41:57,195 --> 00:41:58,931 56.3694 acres from ra 20 1139 00:41:58,931 --> 00:42:00,865 residential agriculture to 1140 00:42:00,865 --> 00:42:03,865 industry to industry for tract 1141 00:42:05,770 --> 00:42:07,672 one, 47.5795 acres to o dash a 1142 00:42:07,672 --> 00:42:10,720 office Conservation overlay for 1143 00:42:14,213 --> 00:42:17,213 track 28.6062 acres and to o 1144 00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:19,651 office for tract 3-0.1837 acres 1145 00:42:19,651 --> 00:42:21,520 for the property, located at 1146 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,821 the northeast corner of the 1147 00:42:22,821 --> 00:42:24,723 intersection of Old Creek Road 1148 00:42:24,723 --> 00:42:25,590 and Tram Road. Costs for 1149 00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:26,758 forward, our Assistant 1150 00:42:26,758 --> 00:42:29,758 Director, Shanti Gubbi for the 1151 00:42:30,596 --> 00:42:31,896 presentation. 1152 00:42:31,896 --> 00:42:34,232 All right. Good evening. 1153 00:42:34,232 --> 00:42:36,232 Good evening. 1154 00:42:36,702 --> 00:42:38,204 Um, this property is located in 1155 00:42:38,204 --> 00:42:39,104 the northeast quadrant of the 1156 00:42:39,104 --> 00:42:39,638 city. Um, it 1157 00:42:39,638 --> 00:42:41,638 s more 1158 00:42:41,740 --> 00:42:43,208 specifically located along Old 1159 00:42:43,208 --> 00:42:44,309 Creek Road. So just sort of to 1160 00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:46,845 the top left. That would be 1161 00:42:46,845 --> 00:42:48,681 Heister. Yale. This rezoning is 1162 00:42:48,681 --> 00:42:49,248 divided into three different 1163 00:42:49,248 --> 00:42:49,981 tracks. I 1164 00:42:49,981 --> 00:42:50,949 ll go through them, 1165 00:42:50,949 --> 00:42:51,116 but then I have a survey. I 1166 00:42:51,116 --> 00:42:52,251 ll 1167 00:42:52,251 --> 00:42:54,653 give you a little bit more 1168 00:42:54,653 --> 00:42:56,588 detail. Um, but track one is 1169 00:42:56,588 --> 00:42:58,230 the bulk of the property. You 1170 00:42:58,230 --> 00:43:00,192 have tract two, which goes 1171 00:43:00,192 --> 00:43:01,761 around the perimeter and then 1172 00:43:01,761 --> 00:43:02,361 track three. I have a blow up 1173 00:43:02,361 --> 00:43:03,128 of that. So it 1174 00:43:03,128 --> 00:43:05,163 s just a teeny 1175 00:43:05,163 --> 00:43:05,397 tiny little piece there. Um, 1176 00:43:05,397 --> 00:43:06,131 and we 1177 00:43:06,131 --> 00:43:06,665 ll talk about why that 1178 00:43:06,665 --> 00:43:08,665 s 1179 00:43:10,235 --> 00:43:13,835 been, um, uh, proposed for just 1180 00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:16,374 office. So again, this is the 1181 00:43:16,374 --> 00:43:17,108 breakdown of the different, uh, 1182 00:43:17,108 --> 00:43:18,410 zoning that they 1183 00:43:18,410 --> 00:43:20,410 re asking for. 1184 00:43:21,246 --> 00:43:23,215 Track one is for industry. 1185 00:43:23,215 --> 00:43:25,217 Track two is office with a 1186 00:43:25,217 --> 00:43:27,617 conservation overlay, and track 1187 00:43:28,353 --> 00:43:29,321 three is for plain office. This 1188 00:43:29,321 --> 00:43:31,890 is a photograph of the 1189 00:43:31,890 --> 00:43:34,326 property. So, um, Old Creek 1190 00:43:34,326 --> 00:43:37,926 Road would be, uh, you know, 1191 00:43:39,310 --> 00:43:41,320 sort of behind you. There is an 1192 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,801 activity center located along 1193 00:43:42,801 --> 00:43:44,803 North Creek Road. Activity 1194 00:43:44,803 --> 00:43:47,139 centers are where, um, 1195 00:43:47,139 --> 00:43:49,539 commercial and even industrial 1196 00:43:50,909 --> 00:43:52,310 is encouraged and expected 1197 00:43:52,310 --> 00:43:54,179 under the current zoning, which 1198 00:43:54,179 --> 00:43:55,814 is already 20 at full build 1199 00:43:55,814 --> 00:43:59,351 out, the number of trips would 1200 00:43:59,351 --> 00:44:00,753 be roughly 1600 and at full 1201 00:44:00,753 --> 00:44:02,154 build out under the proposed 1202 00:44:02,154 --> 00:44:05,154 zoning, the trips would be 1203 00:44:05,658 --> 00:44:09,610 about 1548. So you have a net 1204 00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:10,930 decrease of 48 or 43 trips. So 1205 00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:13,320 because of that, um, when they 1206 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,433 did the initial analysis and it 1207 00:44:14,433 --> 00:44:14,699 is a reduction in trips, then 1208 00:44:14,699 --> 00:44:15,534 they don 1209 00:44:15,534 --> 00:44:17,200 t go further with the 1210 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,200 staff report that you normally 1211 00:44:20,439 --> 00:44:23,439 see. Um, the property is 1212 00:44:24,142 --> 00:44:26,245 located in the second, the 1213 00:44:26,245 --> 00:44:27,946 Johnson Mill Parkers Creek 1214 00:44:27,946 --> 00:44:29,748 watershed. If stormwater is 1215 00:44:29,748 --> 00:44:31,717 required, it will require ten 1216 00:44:31,717 --> 00:44:33,785 year detention. The property is 1217 00:44:33,785 --> 00:44:36,200 not located in a special flood 1218 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,900 hazard area, and there are no 1219 00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:40,490 potential wetlands, buffers or 1220 00:44:40,626 --> 00:44:43,128 streams. Again, the property is 1221 00:44:43,128 --> 00:44:44,296 currently zoned are a 20. Um, I 1222 00:44:44,296 --> 00:44:45,197 want to briefly talk about 1223 00:44:45,197 --> 00:44:45,631 tract two because that 1224 00:44:45,631 --> 00:44:47,599 s a 1225 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:49,999 conservation area overlay that 1226 00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:53,938 is typically not, uh, a or a, a 1227 00:44:53,938 --> 00:44:55,700 zoning that we have. Um, this 1228 00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:55,708 is a zoning that we 1229 00:44:55,708 --> 00:44:57,309 ve had for 1230 00:44:57,309 --> 00:45:00,780 years. This is not something 1231 00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:00,679 under the new Youdo. And the 1232 00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:02,281 reason it 1233 00:45:02,281 --> 00:45:04,416 s used, and this is 1234 00:45:04,416 --> 00:45:05,784 straight out of our Udo, is 1235 00:45:05,784 --> 00:45:07,653 when property is zoned with 1236 00:45:07,653 --> 00:45:09,488 that ca overlay, then that 1237 00:45:09,488 --> 00:45:10,122 means that, um, you 1238 00:45:10,122 --> 00:45:12,122 re 1239 00:45:12,257 --> 00:45:14,257 prohibited from having 1240 00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:16,559 buildings, structures, parking 1241 00:45:16,695 --> 00:45:18,197 and drives, etc. On that piece 1242 00:45:18,197 --> 00:45:20,299 of property. So it essentially 1243 00:45:20,299 --> 00:45:22,167 acts as a buffer. And then just 1244 00:45:22,167 --> 00:45:24,436 a little bit further, it says 1245 00:45:24,436 --> 00:45:25,737 it shall remain undeveloped, 1246 00:45:25,737 --> 00:45:25,904 vacant. And again, you can 1247 00:45:25,904 --> 00:45:27,173 t 1248 00:45:27,173 --> 00:45:29,442 put building structures or 1249 00:45:29,442 --> 00:45:31,177 parking on it. And then one 1250 00:45:31,177 --> 00:45:34,280 other requirement is as it has 1251 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,680 to be at least 100ft wide. And 1252 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,781 so that 1253 00:45:35,781 --> 00:45:38,181 s essentially why you 1254 00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:40,719 have tract two at that, um, 1255 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,119 with that surrounding tract 1256 00:45:43,122 --> 00:45:44,690 one. And the reason why is 1257 00:45:44,690 --> 00:45:47,690 because the future land use 1258 00:45:47,727 --> 00:45:50,127 plan recommends industrial or 1259 00:45:50,462 --> 00:45:51,630 logistics in grey. And then you 1260 00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:51,764 have the green. And that 1261 00:45:51,764 --> 00:45:53,198 s 1262 00:45:53,198 --> 00:45:54,499 potential conservation open 1263 00:45:54,499 --> 00:45:56,702 space. And we talk about that. 1264 00:45:56,702 --> 00:45:58,236 Green serves two purposes. It 1265 00:45:58,236 --> 00:46:00,172 can either serve as a purpose 1266 00:46:00,172 --> 00:46:01,707 for um, potential environmental 1267 00:46:01,707 --> 00:46:03,800 constraints. But it can also 1268 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,577 show that there should be some 1269 00:46:05,577 --> 00:46:07,880 sort of a buffer between the 1270 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,248 industrial and then the yellow 1271 00:46:10,248 --> 00:46:12,752 is residential. So in this 1272 00:46:12,752 --> 00:46:14,287 case, the request is to put the 1273 00:46:14,287 --> 00:46:16,287 conservation, at the 1274 00:46:16,621 --> 00:46:17,990 conservation area overlay 1275 00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:20,459 around the perimeter of the 1276 00:46:20,459 --> 00:46:22,327 property, track three is that 1277 00:46:22,327 --> 00:46:24,630 little tiny piece. And they 1278 00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:25,865 have left that as part of an 1279 00:46:25,865 --> 00:46:27,132 access. So that 1280 00:46:27,132 --> 00:46:29,532 s why the track 1281 00:46:30,350 --> 00:46:33,305 three is just office by itself. 1282 00:46:33,305 --> 00:46:36,175 So again the land, the Future 1283 00:46:36,175 --> 00:46:38,377 land use plan recommends, uh, 1284 00:46:38,377 --> 00:46:40,450 industrial. The request is for 1285 00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:41,847 industrial with again some 1286 00:46:41,847 --> 00:46:43,615 conservation area overlay 1287 00:46:43,615 --> 00:46:43,816 around the periphery and 1288 00:46:43,816 --> 00:46:44,983 staff 1289 00:46:44,983 --> 00:46:46,418 s opinion. The request is 1290 00:46:46,418 --> 00:46:47,986 in compliance with the comp 1291 00:46:47,986 --> 00:46:49,789 plan with the future land use 1292 00:46:49,789 --> 00:46:51,857 and character map. Therefore, 1293 00:46:51,857 --> 00:46:54,257 staff recommends approval. And 1294 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,294 at the JULY 21st, 2026 Planning 1295 00:46:56,294 --> 00:46:58,300 and Zoning meeting, the 1296 00:46:58,300 --> 00:46:59,297 Commission voted unanimously to 1297 00:46:59,297 --> 00:47:01,600 recommend approval of the 1298 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,934 request and I will be happy to 1299 00:47:02,934 --> 00:47:04,436 answer any questions. 1300 00:47:04,436 --> 00:47:05,838 All right. Thank you very much. 1301 00:47:05,838 --> 00:47:07,839 Any questions for MISS Scooby? 1302 00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:08,707 I just have one. Is it my 1303 00:47:08,707 --> 00:47:09,700 understanding that there 1304 00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:11,700 s an 1305 00:47:11,444 --> 00:47:13,646 additional buffer or, um, 1306 00:47:13,646 --> 00:47:14,279 between that and the properties 1307 00:47:14,279 --> 00:47:16,114 surrounding. 1308 00:47:16,114 --> 00:47:17,916 It? 1309 00:47:17,916 --> 00:47:20,860 Do you mean for tract two or 1310 00:47:20,860 --> 00:47:21,554 tract two? Is the buffer. 1311 00:47:21,554 --> 00:47:21,753 Tract to is the buffer? But 1312 00:47:21,753 --> 00:47:22,955 that 1313 00:47:22,955 --> 00:47:25,557 s more than what is 1314 00:47:25,557 --> 00:47:26,191 normally required. 1315 00:47:26,191 --> 00:47:27,259 Yes. 1316 00:47:27,259 --> 00:47:28,727 Does that make sense? 1317 00:47:28,727 --> 00:47:30,362 Yes. It will stay in its 1318 00:47:30,362 --> 00:47:31,964 natural state. So whatever 1319 00:47:31,964 --> 00:47:33,365 trees are there, those have to 1320 00:47:33,365 --> 00:47:33,632 stay there. Right. And again 1321 00:47:33,632 --> 00:47:34,833 you can 1322 00:47:34,833 --> 00:47:35,000 t put parking and you 1323 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,668 can 1324 00:47:36,668 --> 00:47:38,203 t put buildings in it. But 1325 00:47:38,203 --> 00:47:40,305 you will still have the normal 1326 00:47:40,305 --> 00:47:41,473 buffers that would be required 1327 00:47:41,473 --> 00:47:41,740 as well. Okay. So let 1328 00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:43,740 s say 1329 00:47:45,677 --> 00:47:47,279 extra 100ft of no buildings and 1330 00:47:47,279 --> 00:47:48,914 no parking lot is essentially 1331 00:47:48,914 --> 00:47:50,914 what that accomplishes. 1332 00:47:51,784 --> 00:47:52,751 And that is near Dnipro where 1333 00:47:52,751 --> 00:47:53,510 Dnipro is being. 1334 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:54,120 Yeah, that 1335 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,387 s just kind of to 1336 00:47:55,387 --> 00:47:57,889 the south of it along North 1337 00:47:57,889 --> 00:47:59,157 Creek Road. Mhm. 1338 00:47:59,157 --> 00:47:59,858 Can you tell me a little bit 1339 00:47:59,858 --> 00:48:00,392 more about why there 1340 00:48:00,392 --> 00:48:02,392 s a cookie 1341 00:48:03,629 --> 00:48:05,629 cutter track three. 1342 00:48:05,631 --> 00:48:08,100 I let the applicant but again 1343 00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:10,702 okay. The, the tiny piece is so 1344 00:48:10,702 --> 00:48:13,238 there can be access ingress and 1345 00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:14,739 ingress and egress because you 1346 00:48:14,739 --> 00:48:17,900 cannot put that through the 1347 00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:19,178 conservation area overlay. But 1348 00:48:19,178 --> 00:48:20,212 again we have a representative 1349 00:48:20,212 --> 00:48:21,647 here who can talk a little bit 1350 00:48:21,647 --> 00:48:25,217 more about it. But it was 1351 00:48:25,217 --> 00:48:27,217 purposeful. 1352 00:48:27,786 --> 00:48:29,755 All right. Any other questions. 1353 00:48:29,755 --> 00:48:30,923 Thank you very much. All right. 1354 00:48:30,923 --> 00:48:31,690 The public hearing is now open. 1355 00:48:31,690 --> 00:48:32,491 Those who speak on behalf of 1356 00:48:32,491 --> 00:48:33,158 the applicant MAY come forward. 1357 00:48:33,158 --> 00:48:34,293 Please state your name for the 1358 00:48:34,293 --> 00:48:36,761 record, the first person has 1359 00:48:36,761 --> 00:48:38,531 ten minutes. All others have 1360 00:48:38,531 --> 00:48:39,632 three minutes. 1361 00:48:39,632 --> 00:48:41,633 Uh. Good evening. Mayor. 1362 00:48:41,633 --> 00:48:43,469 Council member. My name is Ken 1363 00:48:43,469 --> 00:48:44,770 Malpass, representing Po Bow. 1364 00:48:44,770 --> 00:48:46,238 Um, to address your question, 1365 00:48:46,238 --> 00:48:46,439 MR. Robertson, what it is is 1366 00:48:46,439 --> 00:48:48,307 there 1367 00:48:48,307 --> 00:48:50,707 s an existing gravel 1368 00:48:50,843 --> 00:48:53,679 drive that provides access to a 1369 00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:55,214 couple, um, owners in the back. 1370 00:48:55,214 --> 00:48:55,414 This, uh, old tram lane that 1371 00:48:55,414 --> 00:48:57,283 s 1372 00:48:57,283 --> 00:48:59,618 been there for probably 75 or 1373 00:48:59,618 --> 00:49:01,920 80 years. And because of the 1374 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,122 way the conservation, um, you 1375 00:49:03,122 --> 00:49:04,556 cannot put a private drive 1376 00:49:04,556 --> 00:49:06,158 through it. So we had to 1377 00:49:06,158 --> 00:49:08,360 separate out that so they could 1378 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,361 still keep that access is what 1379 00:49:09,361 --> 00:49:09,996 it is. And we met with the 1380 00:49:09,996 --> 00:49:10,629 neighbors. And that 1381 00:49:10,629 --> 00:49:12,629 s how this 1382 00:49:12,764 --> 00:49:14,764 conservation overlay came 1383 00:49:15,267 --> 00:49:17,690 about. Um, we had a 50 foot 1384 00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:18,904 originally that would match the 1385 00:49:18,904 --> 00:49:20,106 vegetation, and they asked for 1386 00:49:20,106 --> 00:49:21,173 another 50ft. And I think 1387 00:49:21,173 --> 00:49:23,800 everybody was in agreement 1388 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:24,176 that, um, with the compromise, 1389 00:49:24,176 --> 00:49:25,711 that that would be okay. We had 1390 00:49:25,711 --> 00:49:27,947 to leave that or that would 1391 00:49:27,947 --> 00:49:28,914 have negated the. Access by 1392 00:49:28,914 --> 00:49:30,749 doing the overlay. 1393 00:49:30,749 --> 00:49:31,483 That was kind of my 1394 00:49:31,483 --> 00:49:33,483 supposition. 1395 00:49:35,860 --> 00:49:36,221 Right. Thank you. 1396 00:49:36,221 --> 00:49:37,220 Any other questions? 1397 00:49:37,220 --> 00:49:40,220 All right. Any other questions 1398 00:49:41,493 --> 00:49:42,728 for MISS Malpass? Thank you 1399 00:49:42,728 --> 00:49:44,162 very much. Thank you. Anyone 1400 00:49:44,162 --> 00:49:44,963 else that is here to speak on 1401 00:49:44,963 --> 00:49:45,764 behalf of the applicant MAY 1402 00:49:45,764 --> 00:49:47,333 come forward. Please state your 1403 00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:50,933 name for the record. You have 1404 00:49:59,111 --> 00:50:00,460 three minutes. Seeing none. 1405 00:50:00,460 --> 00:50:00,846 Those in opposition to the 1406 00:50:00,846 --> 00:50:01,614 applicant MAY come forward. 1407 00:50:01,614 --> 00:50:02,481 Please state your name. For the 1408 00:50:02,481 --> 00:50:04,951 record. The first person has 1409 00:50:04,951 --> 00:50:07,951 ten minutes. All others have 1410 00:50:15,227 --> 00:50:16,261 three minutes. Seeing none. The 1411 00:50:16,261 --> 00:50:17,563 public hearing is now closed. 1412 00:50:17,563 --> 00:50:18,597 Open for board discussion or a 1413 00:50:18,597 --> 00:50:20,597 motion. 1414 00:50:20,799 --> 00:50:22,601 Motion to approve. Second. 1415 00:50:22,601 --> 00:50:24,690 All right. Motion was made by 1416 00:50:24,690 --> 00:50:26,469 Councilmember Willis. Second by 1417 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:27,740 Council Jones. All those in 1418 00:50:27,740 --> 00:50:28,400 favor say aye. 1419 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,740 Aye. 1420 00:50:29,740 --> 00:50:30,842 Those opposed say nay. 1421 00:50:30,842 --> 00:50:30,976 Motion passes five zero. 1422 00:50:30,976 --> 00:50:31,978 I 1423 00:50:31,978 --> 00:50:32,478 ll move on to item number 1424 00:50:32,478 --> 00:50:33,713 nine. 1425 00:50:33,713 --> 00:50:35,248 Thank you. Mayor. Item number 1426 00:50:35,248 --> 00:50:36,749 nine. Ordinance. Ordinance 1427 00:50:36,749 --> 00:50:38,217 requested by the Community 1428 00:50:38,217 --> 00:50:39,285 Development Services Department 1429 00:50:39,285 --> 00:50:41,120 to amend the Unified 1430 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,588 Development Ordinance. Udo, to 1431 00:50:42,588 --> 00:50:44,557 add definitions and standards 1432 00:50:44,557 --> 00:50:46,558 for short term rentals, 1433 00:50:46,558 --> 00:50:49,328 homestay and short term rental. 1434 00:50:49,328 --> 00:50:51,630 Whole house lodging uses in 1435 00:50:51,630 --> 00:50:53,566 adding these uses to section 1436 00:50:53,566 --> 00:50:54,967 313. Table of uses as permitted 1437 00:50:54,967 --> 00:50:56,802 uses in the following zoning 1438 00:50:56,802 --> 00:50:58,837 districts are a 20 residential 1439 00:50:58,837 --> 00:51:01,237 agriculture r-1 five s 1440 00:51:01,340 --> 00:51:03,209 residential single family r9s 1441 00:51:03,209 --> 00:51:05,144 residential single family are 1442 00:51:05,144 --> 00:51:07,179 six residential single family 1443 00:51:07,179 --> 00:51:08,714 or non residential or six 1444 00:51:08,714 --> 00:51:10,549 residential or six a 1445 00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:12,949 residential or six mh 1446 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,288 residential mobile home th10 1447 00:51:16,288 --> 00:51:18,230 tiny home community. MR.. 1448 00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:19,158 Medical. Residential. MRS.. 1449 00:51:19,158 --> 00:51:21,126 Medical. Residential. Single 1450 00:51:21,126 --> 00:51:23,526 family or office. Residential 1451 00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:26,799 cd downtown commercial and cdf 1452 00:51:26,799 --> 00:51:28,330 downtown commercial fringe. Now 1453 00:51:28,330 --> 00:51:29,201 call for an Assistant Director. 1454 00:51:29,201 --> 00:51:30,268 Shanti Gooby for the 1455 00:51:30,268 --> 00:51:30,803 presentation. 1456 00:51:30,803 --> 00:51:31,570 I don 1457 00:51:31,570 --> 00:51:32,971 t want to say anything, 1458 00:51:32,971 --> 00:51:33,839 but after you read that, our 1459 00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:34,573 whole crowd. 1460 00:51:34,573 --> 00:51:36,750 Left. 1461 00:51:36,750 --> 00:51:36,742 Almost our whole crowd. The the 1462 00:51:36,742 --> 00:51:37,643 three in the back. 1463 00:51:37,643 --> 00:51:37,809 Are here. 1464 00:51:37,809 --> 00:51:38,877 We 1465 00:51:38,877 --> 00:51:41,790 re here for the long run. 1466 00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:41,246 Right? 1467 00:51:41,246 --> 00:51:42,515 We 1468 00:51:42,515 --> 00:51:46,115 ll try to make it as 1469 00:51:46,118 --> 00:51:48,354 interesting as possible. Um, so 1470 00:51:48,354 --> 00:51:50,455 again, um, short term rentals. 1471 00:51:50,455 --> 00:51:51,891 Um, those can come on many 1472 00:51:51,891 --> 00:51:54,291 different platforms. The most 1473 00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:57,960 popular ones are Airbnb and 1474 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,970 Burbank, and generally you have 1475 00:51:59,970 --> 00:52:01,100 two types of, um, short term 1476 00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:01,299 rentals. You have what we 1477 00:52:01,299 --> 00:52:03,235 re 1478 00:52:03,235 --> 00:52:05,370 calling the home state, which 1479 00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:06,705 is where you have a host on 1480 00:52:06,705 --> 00:52:09,508 site with you, whether it be an 1481 00:52:09,508 --> 00:52:11,210 apartment or a house of some 1482 00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:11,443 sort. And then we have what 1483 00:52:11,443 --> 00:52:12,445 s 1484 00:52:12,445 --> 00:52:13,846 called, in the second 1485 00:52:13,846 --> 00:52:14,547 definition, whole house 1486 00:52:14,547 --> 00:52:15,281 lodging. And it 1487 00:52:15,281 --> 00:52:16,449 s exactly what 1488 00:52:16,449 --> 00:52:18,818 it sounds like. You get the 1489 00:52:18,818 --> 00:52:18,984 whole dwelling to yourself. So 1490 00:52:18,984 --> 00:52:20,452 we 1491 00:52:20,452 --> 00:52:22,121 re just basically referring 1492 00:52:22,121 --> 00:52:26,910 to it with the host and without 1493 00:52:26,910 --> 00:52:29,691 a host. Uh, um, several months 1494 00:52:30,195 --> 00:52:32,198 ago, city staff was, um, able 1495 00:52:32,198 --> 00:52:34,700 to use some software that deals 1496 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,935 with short term rentals. Uh, 1497 00:52:36,935 --> 00:52:39,404 this was done back in APRIL of 1498 00:52:39,404 --> 00:52:41,673 this year, and we were able to 1499 00:52:41,673 --> 00:52:44,730 identify some with certainty 1500 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,978 and some with not exact 1501 00:52:45,978 --> 00:52:47,480 specificity of short term 1502 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:47,913 rentals that are in Greenville. 1503 00:52:47,913 --> 00:52:49,181 So we 1504 00:52:49,181 --> 00:52:51,116 ve shown those all with 1505 00:52:51,116 --> 00:52:52,918 the blue dots. And then we 1506 00:52:52,918 --> 00:52:53,953 broke those out into what 1507 00:52:53,953 --> 00:52:55,287 zoning district they 1508 00:52:55,287 --> 00:52:57,287 re in. And 1509 00:52:57,957 --> 00:53:00,425 so at that time we had um, 1510 00:53:00,425 --> 00:53:02,825 roughly 270 short term rentals 1511 00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:06,331 in the city. So now to talk 1512 00:53:06,331 --> 00:53:07,733 about the new standards that 1513 00:53:07,733 --> 00:53:08,100 come with this, um, I 1514 00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:09,802 m going 1515 00:53:09,802 --> 00:53:13,272 to go through the homestay or 1516 00:53:13,272 --> 00:53:14,306 with host first. Um, and one of 1517 00:53:14,306 --> 00:53:14,473 one of the reasons why I 1518 00:53:14,473 --> 00:53:15,674 m 1519 00:53:15,674 --> 00:53:17,543 doing this is because a lot of 1520 00:53:17,543 --> 00:53:19,411 these carryover to the second 1521 00:53:19,411 --> 00:53:22,749 type of short term rental. Um, 1522 00:53:22,749 --> 00:53:25,170 so again, with a host, um, the 1523 00:53:25,170 --> 00:53:26,585 owner or operator does have to 1524 00:53:26,585 --> 00:53:27,753 receive a zoning compliance 1525 00:53:27,753 --> 00:53:28,754 permit. Um, it 1526 00:53:28,754 --> 00:53:31,154 s a one time 1527 00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:34,590 permit. Uh, there is no 1528 00:53:34,590 --> 00:53:34,260 exterior advertising that 1529 00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:36,260 s 1530 00:53:36,328 --> 00:53:38,697 allowed. So no outdoor outside 1531 00:53:38,697 --> 00:53:39,765 signage. The owner operator 1532 00:53:39,765 --> 00:53:41,700 does have to supply a 1533 00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:43,902 certificate of insurance. Uh, 1534 00:53:43,902 --> 00:53:45,504 in the amount of $1 million in 1535 00:53:45,504 --> 00:53:47,139 liability insurance for the 1536 00:53:47,139 --> 00:53:48,508 property. And that has to be 1537 00:53:48,508 --> 00:53:50,908 submitted with the permit 1538 00:53:51,844 --> 00:53:53,946 application. Also, no special 1539 00:53:53,946 --> 00:53:56,382 events or gatherings in excess 1540 00:53:56,382 --> 00:53:58,150 of the registered guests and 1541 00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:59,785 then any existing short term 1542 00:53:59,785 --> 00:54:02,121 rentals as of tonight, if this 1543 00:54:02,121 --> 00:54:03,956 is passed, has a year to get 1544 00:54:03,956 --> 00:54:05,391 their permit with us. Right. So 1545 00:54:05,391 --> 00:54:06,759 these are the existing ones. 1546 00:54:06,759 --> 00:54:07,159 And then any new ones, 1547 00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:08,327 obviously we 1548 00:54:08,327 --> 00:54:09,161 ll go ahead and 1549 00:54:09,161 --> 00:54:10,662 ideally 1550 00:54:10,662 --> 00:54:12,231 Do their permit before they 1551 00:54:12,231 --> 00:54:14,320 establish themselves as a short 1552 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:14,833 term rental. Um, we do 1553 00:54:14,833 --> 00:54:15,234 recognize that we 1554 00:54:15,234 --> 00:54:17,234 re going to 1555 00:54:17,603 --> 00:54:20,380 have to do, um, a little bit of 1556 00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:22,575 publicity to to bring awareness 1557 00:54:22,575 --> 00:54:24,343 to them. Some people probably, 1558 00:54:24,343 --> 00:54:25,244 um, MAY not even know that they 1559 00:54:25,244 --> 00:54:25,544 have to do this. So that 1560 00:54:25,544 --> 00:54:27,544 ll 1561 00:54:28,447 --> 00:54:30,750 come if we, um, if you approve, 1562 00:54:30,750 --> 00:54:33,150 uh, text amendment. Another 1563 00:54:33,452 --> 00:54:35,655 thing that we added is that 1564 00:54:35,655 --> 00:54:37,756 any, um, short term rental that 1565 00:54:37,756 --> 00:54:40,156 receives either three citations 1566 00:54:40,292 --> 00:54:42,494 or warnings for ordinance 1567 00:54:42,494 --> 00:54:44,130 violations. Um, some examples 1568 00:54:44,130 --> 00:54:46,632 would be noise, trash and 1569 00:54:46,632 --> 00:54:48,500 debris or illegal parking. Um, 1570 00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:49,702 within a 12 month period. MAY 1571 00:54:49,702 --> 00:54:51,971 have their zoning compliance 1572 00:54:51,971 --> 00:54:54,440 permit revoked. Um, again, the 1573 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,610 intent is to not be punitive, 1574 00:54:57,610 --> 00:55:00,412 but the intent is to make sure 1575 00:55:00,412 --> 00:55:01,880 that the Airbnb owner operator 1576 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:02,820 is a good neighbor. And so 1577 00:55:02,820 --> 00:55:02,448 that 1578 00:55:02,448 --> 00:55:03,683 s what we 1579 00:55:03,683 --> 00:55:05,683 re really after. 1580 00:55:06,818 --> 00:55:07,787 Um, it is subject to citations. 1581 00:55:07,787 --> 00:55:07,953 And a little bit further, I 1582 00:55:07,953 --> 00:55:09,855 ll 1583 00:55:09,855 --> 00:55:12,324 tell you, um, the schedule of 1584 00:55:12,324 --> 00:55:15,228 of the the amounts of the 1585 00:55:15,228 --> 00:55:17,290 citations. This is for whole 1586 00:55:17,290 --> 00:55:17,163 house. These are the same ones 1587 00:55:17,163 --> 00:55:19,970 I 1588 00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:19,732 ve went through. So I 1589 00:55:19,732 --> 00:55:21,732 m going 1590 00:55:23,136 --> 00:55:24,703 to jump ahead to whole house 1591 00:55:24,703 --> 00:55:26,873 lodging. So whole house lodging 1592 00:55:26,873 --> 00:55:28,641 means that the owner, the host 1593 00:55:28,641 --> 00:55:29,174 is not on site. So we 1594 00:55:29,174 --> 00:55:31,174 ve added 1595 00:55:32,144 --> 00:55:34,144 two additional requirements. 1596 00:55:35,781 --> 00:55:38,951 Um, if, uh, the person who owns 1597 00:55:38,951 --> 00:55:40,586 or operates, um, the Airbnb 1598 00:55:40,586 --> 00:55:40,853 does not live in Pitt County, 1599 00:55:40,853 --> 00:55:41,954 then they 1600 00:55:41,954 --> 00:55:44,189 re going to designate 1601 00:55:44,189 --> 00:55:46,425 someone in Pitt County who will 1602 00:55:46,425 --> 00:55:48,940 be a local contact. That could 1603 00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:49,929 be a local contact or planning 1604 00:55:49,929 --> 00:55:52,331 staff, local contact for even 1605 00:55:52,331 --> 00:55:55,331 the police department. Um, so 1606 00:55:55,334 --> 00:55:56,736 that that agent can accept any 1607 00:55:56,736 --> 00:55:58,504 kind of issues or complaints 1608 00:55:58,504 --> 00:55:59,705 and be able to respond to them. 1609 00:55:59,705 --> 00:56:01,707 And again, this could be 1610 00:56:01,707 --> 00:56:03,809 something as like an excessive 1611 00:56:03,809 --> 00:56:05,177 amount of parking noise, 1612 00:56:05,177 --> 00:56:05,344 perhaps trash and debris that 1613 00:56:05,344 --> 00:56:07,460 s 1614 00:56:07,460 --> 00:56:08,914 been left in the yard. But 1615 00:56:08,914 --> 00:56:10,749 ideally that would be a local 1616 00:56:10,749 --> 00:56:12,184 contact, easy for us to get in 1617 00:56:12,184 --> 00:56:14,186 contact with than someone 1618 00:56:14,186 --> 00:56:15,455 perhaps in Ohio that MAY not 1619 00:56:15,455 --> 00:56:19,550 have an idea. Any of these 1620 00:56:19,258 --> 00:56:20,250 things are going on again. 1621 00:56:20,250 --> 00:56:21,593 Um. 1622 00:56:21,593 --> 00:56:23,395 We already have the forms and 1623 00:56:23,395 --> 00:56:24,897 everything set up to go so that 1624 00:56:24,897 --> 00:56:25,640 if if this is approved, we 1625 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,640 ll 1626 00:56:27,299 --> 00:56:29,340 be ready to go. So the form, 1627 00:56:29,340 --> 00:56:31,171 um, for the agent is very 1628 00:56:31,171 --> 00:56:33,390 short. It does lay out the 1629 00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:34,907 responsibilities of that agent 1630 00:56:34,907 --> 00:56:36,420 so they understand if they are 1631 00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:37,343 going to be an agent for 1632 00:56:37,343 --> 00:56:37,943 someone. What that means, 1633 00:56:37,943 --> 00:56:38,343 again, that they 1634 00:56:38,343 --> 00:56:39,811 re going to 1635 00:56:39,811 --> 00:56:40,880 have to receive and respond to 1636 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,948 complaints. 1637 00:56:41,948 --> 00:56:43,948 Um. 1638 00:56:44,116 --> 00:56:46,516 This last section basically 1639 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,254 just again, not to be punitive. 1640 00:56:48,254 --> 00:56:50,823 It does give a grace period 1641 00:56:50,823 --> 00:56:52,792 that if you are, uh, you have 1642 00:56:52,792 --> 00:56:53,459 an agent and that agent says, 1643 00:56:53,459 --> 00:56:55,327 actually, I 1644 00:56:55,327 --> 00:56:56,662 m moving to Texas. 1645 00:56:56,662 --> 00:56:58,798 It gives you some time to 1646 00:56:58,798 --> 00:57:02,334 appoint a new agent and get 1647 00:57:02,334 --> 00:57:04,670 their information to us. As far 1648 00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:07,105 as the citations, these are the 1649 00:57:07,105 --> 00:57:09,475 same citations for any kind of 1650 00:57:09,475 --> 00:57:11,511 zoning violation. And that is 1651 00:57:11,511 --> 00:57:14,511 the first violation. Um, is 1652 00:57:15,347 --> 00:57:18,347 $100 a second violation is a 1653 00:57:18,584 --> 00:57:20,584 second violation within 365 1654 00:57:20,786 --> 00:57:24,900 days of the first. That amount 1655 00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:26,526 is 250, and the third, again is 1656 00:57:26,526 --> 00:57:29,161 within 365 days of the first 1657 00:57:29,161 --> 00:57:32,310 violation. And that amount is 1658 00:57:32,310 --> 00:57:33,599 $500. This is the table of 1659 00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:37,690 uses. And so what this is 1660 00:57:37,690 --> 00:57:38,872 showing is that, um, all of the 1661 00:57:38,872 --> 00:57:40,872 districts that allow 1662 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:41,206 residential, uh, we have added, 1663 00:57:41,206 --> 00:57:42,541 you 1664 00:57:42,541 --> 00:57:42,909 ll see the red piece. So 1665 00:57:42,909 --> 00:57:43,776 that means it 1666 00:57:43,776 --> 00:57:45,411 s a permitted 1667 00:57:45,411 --> 00:57:47,713 use, does not require a special 1668 00:57:47,713 --> 00:57:49,315 use permit. Um, this will be 1669 00:57:49,315 --> 00:57:51,117 for both of those uses. So both 1670 00:57:51,117 --> 00:57:54,717 uses will be allowed in the 1671 00:57:54,987 --> 00:57:55,288 very same districts. In staff 1672 00:57:55,288 --> 00:57:56,855 s 1673 00:57:56,855 --> 00:57:58,900 opinion, the request is in 1674 00:57:58,900 --> 00:57:59,491 compliance with the 1675 00:57:59,491 --> 00:58:00,959 comprehensive plan, 1676 00:58:00,959 --> 00:58:02,695 specifically. Chapter five 1677 00:58:02,695 --> 00:58:04,695 Creating Complete Neighborhoods 1678 00:58:05,864 --> 00:58:07,500 Goal 5.1 strong Existing 1679 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:08,601 neighborhoods Greenville will 1680 00:58:08,601 --> 00:58:10,690 have strong established 1681 00:58:10,690 --> 00:58:11,637 neighborhoods with the support 1682 00:58:11,637 --> 00:58:13,640 for neighbors, with support for 1683 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,174 neighborhood organizations, 1684 00:58:15,174 --> 00:58:16,642 high quality housing, unique 1685 00:58:16,642 --> 00:58:17,943 character, and robust 1686 00:58:17,943 --> 00:58:19,678 integration with the rest of 1687 00:58:19,678 --> 00:58:21,747 the community. Um. Therefore, 1688 00:58:21,747 --> 00:58:24,147 staff recommends approval. And 1689 00:58:24,917 --> 00:58:26,552 at the JULY 21st, 2026 Planning 1690 00:58:26,552 --> 00:58:28,287 and Zoning Commission, the 1691 00:58:28,287 --> 00:58:29,689 Commission voted unanimously to 1692 00:58:29,689 --> 00:58:30,790 recommend approval of the 1693 00:58:30,790 --> 00:58:31,457 request, and I 1694 00:58:31,457 --> 00:58:32,858 ll be happy to 1695 00:58:32,858 --> 00:58:33,192 answer any questions. 1696 00:58:33,192 --> 00:58:34,794 Right. 1697 00:58:34,794 --> 00:58:35,761 Any questions? 1698 00:58:35,761 --> 00:58:36,429 MISS. 1699 00:58:36,429 --> 00:58:38,397 Uh. 1700 00:58:38,397 --> 00:58:39,932 Shante, can you remind me of 1701 00:58:39,932 --> 00:58:41,500 the period of time that an 1702 00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:42,901 owner would have to replace an. 1703 00:58:42,901 --> 00:58:44,901 Agent? 1704 00:58:44,904 --> 00:58:47,904 We have said ten days. 1705 00:58:48,307 --> 00:58:49,809 Ten days? Yes. 1706 00:58:49,809 --> 00:58:51,110 And then you said it was a 1707 00:58:51,110 --> 00:58:51,911 year. They have a year to get 1708 00:58:51,911 --> 00:58:54,311 the permit. This is. 1709 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,616 Past for existing or 1710 00:58:56,616 --> 00:58:56,916 preexisting ones. Yes. And 1711 00:58:56,916 --> 00:58:57,717 again, that 1712 00:58:57,717 --> 00:58:58,784 s probably going to 1713 00:58:58,784 --> 00:59:00,687 take a little bit of word of 1714 00:59:00,687 --> 00:59:01,387 mouth, um, to make people aware 1715 00:59:01,387 --> 00:59:01,920 of that. But we 1716 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,422 ve given a 1717 00:59:03,422 --> 00:59:05,391 grace period of a year. 1718 00:59:05,391 --> 00:59:05,991 Okay. And then I can 1719 00:59:05,991 --> 00:59:07,991 t remember 1720 00:59:08,227 --> 00:59:10,262 if we, uh, finalize this, but 1721 00:59:10,262 --> 00:59:11,263 what was the legality of this? 1722 00:59:11,263 --> 00:59:14,633 I know we had discussed that in 1723 00:59:14,633 --> 00:59:15,468 the workshop. 1724 00:59:15,468 --> 00:59:16,200 The city attorney 1725 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,136 s office is 1726 00:59:17,136 --> 00:59:18,638 of the view that this is a 1727 00:59:18,638 --> 00:59:18,938 legally defensible, and it 1728 00:59:18,938 --> 00:59:20,773 s, 1729 00:59:20,773 --> 00:59:21,207 um, will be in compliance. 1730 00:59:21,207 --> 00:59:22,642 Okay. 1731 00:59:22,642 --> 00:59:23,543 Are there any other peer cities 1732 00:59:23,543 --> 00:59:25,110 that are doing something 1733 00:59:25,110 --> 00:59:25,344 similar to this? 1734 00:59:25,344 --> 00:59:26,178 Yeah, there 1735 00:59:26,178 --> 00:59:27,246 s several cities 1736 00:59:27,246 --> 00:59:28,348 that have a short term 1737 00:59:28,348 --> 00:59:30,116 ordinance, short term rental 1738 00:59:30,116 --> 00:59:30,783 ordinances. Um, Raleigh. 1739 00:59:30,783 --> 00:59:32,618 Asheville. 1740 00:59:32,618 --> 00:59:32,785 So are they similar to what 1741 00:59:32,785 --> 00:59:33,553 we 1742 00:59:33,553 --> 00:59:34,721 re proposing? 1743 00:59:34,721 --> 00:59:34,988 I think Raleigh was very 1744 00:59:34,988 --> 00:59:36,189 similar. 1745 00:59:36,189 --> 00:59:38,189 To. Okay. 1746 00:59:39,825 --> 00:59:40,580 And there has been any case law. 1747 00:59:40,580 --> 00:59:41,260 Nobody 1748 00:59:41,260 --> 00:59:42,294 s tried to sue the city 1749 00:59:42,294 --> 00:59:43,129 over it. 1750 00:59:43,129 --> 00:59:44,864 Well, there hasn 1751 00:59:44,864 --> 00:59:46,465 t been some 1752 00:59:46,465 --> 00:59:48,340 legislation out of litigation 1753 00:59:48,340 --> 00:59:49,201 out of Wilmington dealing with 1754 00:59:49,201 --> 00:59:51,201 the rental registration 1755 00:59:51,404 --> 00:59:52,438 challenge. But, um, we believe 1756 00:59:52,438 --> 00:59:54,606 this is not a rental 1757 00:59:54,606 --> 00:59:55,508 registration program. This is a 1758 00:59:55,508 --> 00:59:55,941 regulation of short term 1759 00:59:55,941 --> 00:59:56,742 rentals, but it 1760 00:59:56,742 --> 00:59:58,611 s not a rental 1761 00:59:58,611 --> 00:59:59,378 registration program. So we 1762 00:59:59,378 --> 01:00:01,778 think this is legally 1763 01:00:02,114 --> 01:00:04,114 defensible. And. 1764 01:00:04,284 --> 01:00:05,351 Um. Can you go back to the 1765 01:00:05,351 --> 01:00:07,351 citations again? 1766 01:00:10,756 --> 01:00:12,756 Sure. 1767 01:00:14,394 --> 01:00:17,129 And this would be, um, a notice 1768 01:00:17,129 --> 01:00:18,498 of violation. So, uh, a parking 1769 01:00:18,498 --> 01:00:20,766 through the police department 1770 01:00:20,766 --> 01:00:22,501 MAY be a little different than 1771 01:00:22,501 --> 01:00:22,668 if it makes its way to us. 1772 01:00:22,668 --> 01:00:24,103 Let 1773 01:00:24,103 --> 01:00:27,339 s say it is a parking 1774 01:00:27,339 --> 01:00:29,976 issue. Um, and we would be 1775 01:00:29,976 --> 01:00:33,576 notified as part of having the 1776 01:00:34,980 --> 01:00:37,980 permits. 123 Main Street had a, 1777 01:00:38,618 --> 01:00:41,287 you know, a kegger, and they 1778 01:00:41,287 --> 01:00:42,621 had 25 cars. And we had to send 1779 01:00:42,621 --> 01:00:43,989 the police out there and have 1780 01:00:43,989 --> 01:00:44,590 them dispersed. 1781 01:00:44,590 --> 01:00:46,580 Sure. 1782 01:00:46,580 --> 01:00:48,260 And then as far as, like the 1783 01:00:48,260 --> 01:00:49,896 complaints are concerned, um, 1784 01:00:49,896 --> 01:00:51,664 are those complaints that are 1785 01:00:51,664 --> 01:00:53,466 sent to directly to the city 1786 01:00:53,466 --> 01:00:55,101 and then the city investigates 1787 01:00:55,101 --> 01:00:56,335 to see if it 1788 01:00:56,335 --> 01:00:57,937 s a legitimate 1789 01:00:57,937 --> 01:00:58,710 complaint. And I guess where 1790 01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:59,538 I 1791 01:00:59,538 --> 01:01:00,206 m going with this is, is that 1792 01:01:00,206 --> 01:01:02,206 each person 1793 01:01:03,743 --> 01:01:05,744 s idea of quiet and 1794 01:01:05,744 --> 01:01:07,179 peaceful is different in their 1795 01:01:07,179 --> 01:01:09,482 and their type of nuisance is 1796 01:01:09,482 --> 01:01:09,649 all always different. So people 1797 01:01:09,649 --> 01:01:10,549 don 1798 01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:11,684 t want to see any of it. 1799 01:01:11,684 --> 01:01:13,860 Some of them could just be 1800 01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:14,530 calling in, complaining just 1801 01:01:14,530 --> 01:01:14,520 because they know what 1802 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,520 s going 1803 01:01:17,123 --> 01:01:17,356 on inside the dwelling and know 1804 01:01:17,356 --> 01:01:18,357 that it 1805 01:01:18,357 --> 01:01:18,524 s something they don 1806 01:01:18,524 --> 01:01:19,692 t 1807 01:01:19,692 --> 01:01:21,227 want to see, but they just 1808 01:01:21,227 --> 01:01:24,430 might be complaining. And so I 1809 01:01:24,430 --> 01:01:25,799 guess my idea is, is I want to 1810 01:01:25,799 --> 01:01:26,332 make sure that whoever 1811 01:01:26,332 --> 01:01:27,433 s making 1812 01:01:27,433 --> 01:01:28,434 the complaint is being vetted 1813 01:01:28,434 --> 01:01:29,201 by the city, and the city can 1814 01:01:29,201 --> 01:01:30,270 go ahead and say, well, this is 1815 01:01:30,270 --> 01:01:30,436 a legitimate complaint. This 1816 01:01:30,436 --> 01:01:31,370 isn 1817 01:01:31,370 --> 01:01:31,170 t just somebody that 1818 01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:31,871 s 1819 01:01:31,871 --> 01:01:32,705 angry and just doesn 1820 01:01:32,705 --> 01:01:34,705 t like 1821 01:01:34,774 --> 01:01:35,741 that particular neighbor and 1822 01:01:35,741 --> 01:01:37,610 their property. 1823 01:01:37,610 --> 01:01:38,377 We deal with that a lot. Again, 1824 01:01:38,377 --> 01:01:40,377 one person 1825 01:01:40,579 --> 01:01:41,881 s tolerance is much 1826 01:01:41,881 --> 01:01:44,484 higher or lower than their 1827 01:01:44,484 --> 01:01:46,686 neighbors. Um, so along with 1828 01:01:46,686 --> 01:01:47,787 the permit, we we have an index 1829 01:01:47,787 --> 01:01:50,522 where we would keep track of 1830 01:01:50,522 --> 01:01:53,326 the properties. Um, that would 1831 01:01:53,326 --> 01:01:54,460 allow, uh, pd or even code 1832 01:01:54,460 --> 01:01:55,928 enforcement to be able to 1833 01:01:55,928 --> 01:01:58,328 cross-reference that. We would 1834 01:01:58,464 --> 01:02:00,867 essentially be the the keeper 1835 01:02:00,867 --> 01:02:02,668 of the information. Someone 1836 01:02:02,668 --> 01:02:04,470 could still go on the city. Uh, 1837 01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:06,706 compass. We would probably need 1838 01:02:06,706 --> 01:02:09,308 to add that as a new issue from 1839 01:02:09,308 --> 01:02:10,476 the dropdown box. And I would 1840 01:02:10,476 --> 01:02:12,712 think that that would probably 1841 01:02:12,712 --> 01:02:14,947 come through planning first. 1842 01:02:14,947 --> 01:02:15,415 Um, if it is more of a of. 1843 01:02:15,415 --> 01:02:17,415 A. 1844 01:02:17,650 --> 01:02:18,550 A lot of parking, let 1845 01:02:18,550 --> 01:02:19,252 s say. 1846 01:02:19,252 --> 01:02:21,252 Um. 1847 01:02:23,356 --> 01:02:24,657 The best solution would be to 1848 01:02:24,657 --> 01:02:24,824 go through pd. Obviously it 1849 01:02:24,824 --> 01:02:26,824 s 1850 01:02:28,228 --> 01:02:28,828 not an emergency, but pd is 24 1851 01:02:28,828 --> 01:02:30,828 hours. We 1852 01:02:32,265 --> 01:02:35,265 re 8 to 5. Um, but it 1853 01:02:36,235 --> 01:02:37,670 will basically the the 1854 01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:39,104 different tentacles will still 1855 01:02:39,104 --> 01:02:40,573 rest within the planning 1856 01:02:40,573 --> 01:02:41,274 department is how it would 1857 01:02:41,274 --> 01:02:42,975 work. 1858 01:02:42,975 --> 01:02:44,844 So and I guess I think of the 1859 01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:45,378 situation where you could have 1860 01:02:45,378 --> 01:02:45,844 a neighbor that 1861 01:02:45,844 --> 01:02:47,379 s just not 1862 01:02:47,379 --> 01:02:49,615 happy. Right. And they find out 1863 01:02:49,615 --> 01:02:51,483 that within a certain amount of 1864 01:02:51,483 --> 01:02:53,883 complaints they could, you 1865 01:02:54,954 --> 01:02:55,988 know, get the, the, the 1866 01:02:55,988 --> 01:02:56,189 neighboring property that 1867 01:02:56,189 --> 01:02:57,890 they 1868 01:02:57,890 --> 01:02:59,525 re not happy with multiple 1869 01:02:59,525 --> 01:03:01,627 citations and potentially get 1870 01:03:01,627 --> 01:03:03,195 them into some legal issues. So 1871 01:03:03,195 --> 01:03:04,497 I guess like my thought is, is 1872 01:03:04,497 --> 01:03:06,532 if the police departments 1873 01:03:06,532 --> 01:03:07,366 called out to, let 1874 01:03:07,366 --> 01:03:09,366 s say, one 1875 01:03:09,835 --> 01:03:11,537 of the short term rentals and 1876 01:03:11,537 --> 01:03:12,639 they just say it was because of 1877 01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:13,390 loud noise, they go out there 1878 01:03:13,390 --> 01:03:13,239 and say it 1879 01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:14,407 s it 1880 01:03:14,407 --> 01:03:16,420 s nothing. 1881 01:03:16,420 --> 01:03:16,742 Well, they call them again. It 1882 01:03:16,742 --> 01:03:17,760 happens again. Let 1883 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:18,645 s say they 1884 01:03:18,645 --> 01:03:20,612 come out there 4 or 5 times, 1885 01:03:20,612 --> 01:03:20,847 and then the neighbor says, I 1886 01:03:20,847 --> 01:03:22,181 m 1887 01:03:22,181 --> 01:03:24,517 doing all these hypothetical 1888 01:03:24,517 --> 01:03:27,186 things. Um, but this is 1889 01:03:27,186 --> 01:03:28,621 probably a realistic situation. 1890 01:03:28,621 --> 01:03:29,489 Um, they go out there and they 1891 01:03:29,489 --> 01:03:30,990 say, well, they call the 1892 01:03:30,990 --> 01:03:32,291 planning department. Say, well, 1893 01:03:32,291 --> 01:03:33,660 the police have been out there 1894 01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:33,793 five times. You know, I don 1895 01:03:33,793 --> 01:03:34,293 t 1896 01:03:34,293 --> 01:03:34,727 understand why we 1897 01:03:34,727 --> 01:03:36,629 re not doing 1898 01:03:36,629 --> 01:03:38,631 anything with it. How is that 1899 01:03:38,631 --> 01:03:41,801 going to be handled? I guess as 1900 01:03:41,801 --> 01:03:41,967 far as the complaint, because 1901 01:03:41,967 --> 01:03:42,936 it 1902 01:03:42,936 --> 01:03:44,270 s going to be law that the 1903 01:03:44,270 --> 01:03:46,872 police were out there five 1904 01:03:46,872 --> 01:03:48,707 times, but how legitimate were 1905 01:03:48,707 --> 01:03:50,343 those five phone calls as far 1906 01:03:50,343 --> 01:03:51,811 as an actual nuisance, right? 1907 01:03:51,811 --> 01:03:53,813 Well, we would get the 1908 01:03:53,813 --> 01:03:56,181 disposition right. So we would 1909 01:03:56,181 --> 01:03:58,170 know if it was founded, if they 1910 01:03:58,170 --> 01:03:59,419 showed up and it was quiet and 1911 01:03:59,419 --> 01:04:01,321 everyone were being good 1912 01:04:01,321 --> 01:04:02,722 listeners. So we as the 1913 01:04:02,722 --> 01:04:04,857 planning department would have 1914 01:04:04,857 --> 01:04:07,930 some idea. Yes. You have five 1915 01:04:07,930 --> 01:04:08,494 calls for service, but actually 1916 01:04:08,494 --> 01:04:11,331 only one time was there 1917 01:04:11,331 --> 01:04:14,931 actually in an issue. So it 1918 01:04:15,968 --> 01:04:19,172 will put on staff. Um, as 1919 01:04:19,172 --> 01:04:21,572 sometimes there are of 1920 01:04:22,275 --> 01:04:24,100 threading the needle of taking 1921 01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:26,100 those different complaints, 1922 01:04:26,545 --> 01:04:28,714 figuring out which really do 1923 01:04:28,714 --> 01:04:30,149 hit a mark and which of those 1924 01:04:30,149 --> 01:04:30,983 or maybe someone losing 1925 01:04:30,983 --> 01:04:31,517 patience and they 1926 01:04:31,517 --> 01:04:33,517 re calling 1927 01:04:36,456 --> 01:04:37,990 every 15 minutes. Um, so that 1928 01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:39,359 happens in other things as well 1929 01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:40,260 when we get complaints. And 1930 01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:40,426 what do you know, it 1931 01:04:40,426 --> 01:04:41,995 s already 1932 01:04:41,995 --> 01:04:45,365 disappeared by the time that we 1933 01:04:45,365 --> 01:04:47,634 get there. But what will happen 1934 01:04:47,634 --> 01:04:50,870 or what will at least give us 1935 01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:53,720 some way of communicating 1936 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:53,239 directly is that either we 1937 01:04:53,239 --> 01:04:55,410 ll 1938 01:04:55,410 --> 01:04:56,341 have the person on the permit, 1939 01:04:56,341 --> 01:04:57,910 or we will have a local 1940 01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:59,745 contact, and if that local 1941 01:04:59,745 --> 01:05:00,146 contact says, listen, this is 1942 01:05:00,146 --> 01:05:02,146 my sister 1943 01:05:02,582 --> 01:05:04,317 s place, great. Can 1944 01:05:04,317 --> 01:05:06,510 you tell us who your sister is? 1945 01:05:06,510 --> 01:05:07,687 And that is a way that staff 1946 01:05:07,687 --> 01:05:09,210 can directly communicate with 1947 01:05:09,210 --> 01:05:11,558 someone that we MAY not be able 1948 01:05:11,558 --> 01:05:14,227 to reach. Um, they MAY have a 1949 01:05:14,227 --> 01:05:16,290 run of bad guests, you know, 1950 01:05:16,290 --> 01:05:17,964 and that happens as well. Um, 1951 01:05:17,964 --> 01:05:20,900 but the other thing is that at 1952 01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:23,636 least Verbo and Airbnb have a 1953 01:05:23,636 --> 01:05:25,380 system themselves for if you 1954 01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:27,173 live beside the property and 1955 01:05:27,173 --> 01:05:29,750 you have issues, you can log 1956 01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:31,344 those complaints with Airbnb 1957 01:05:31,344 --> 01:05:31,544 and Verbo as well. Okay, so 1958 01:05:31,544 --> 01:05:33,412 there 1959 01:05:33,412 --> 01:05:36,916 s a couple of things. Is 1960 01:05:36,916 --> 01:05:39,318 is a completely fail safe note. 1961 01:05:39,318 --> 01:05:43,256 And there is going to take, um, 1962 01:05:43,256 --> 01:05:44,957 some, some discretion of how we 1963 01:05:44,957 --> 01:05:45,592 deal with issues that come up. 1964 01:05:45,592 --> 01:05:47,600 Okay. 1965 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,130 Um, and then the other question 1966 01:05:50,130 --> 01:05:52,898 I have to is as far as somebody 1967 01:05:52,898 --> 01:05:54,734 that is in deciding about doing 1968 01:05:54,734 --> 01:05:56,736 like a short term rental, let 1969 01:05:56,736 --> 01:05:58,972 it be one of the two scenarios. 1970 01:05:58,972 --> 01:06:00,940 What is there a penalty if they 1971 01:06:00,940 --> 01:06:01,975 do not file? And I guess my 1972 01:06:01,975 --> 01:06:02,208 thought process is you 1973 01:06:02,208 --> 01:06:03,976 re going 1974 01:06:03,976 --> 01:06:05,779 to have a lot of people that 1975 01:06:05,779 --> 01:06:06,790 have been have not been used to 1976 01:06:06,790 --> 01:06:07,914 it. There 1977 01:06:07,914 --> 01:06:09,849 s never been a filing 1978 01:06:09,849 --> 01:06:11,984 period. What type of penalty 1979 01:06:11,984 --> 01:06:14,984 would be if somebody operating 1980 01:06:15,155 --> 01:06:16,522 one and then staff is notified 1981 01:06:16,522 --> 01:06:18,391 that so-and-so and my 1982 01:06:18,391 --> 01:06:19,240 neighborhood is has an Airbnb 1983 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:19,358 and you say, well, it 1984 01:06:19,358 --> 01:06:19,759 s not 1985 01:06:19,759 --> 01:06:20,193 logged, we don 1986 01:06:20,193 --> 01:06:21,594 t have them 1987 01:06:21,594 --> 01:06:22,562 there. You send them a letter. 1988 01:06:22,562 --> 01:06:23,896 Is there a penalty or is it 1989 01:06:23,896 --> 01:06:25,164 just a requirement that within 1990 01:06:25,164 --> 01:06:26,232 a certain period of time, they 1991 01:06:26,232 --> 01:06:27,734 need to go ahead and file? 1992 01:06:27,734 --> 01:06:29,435 Yeah. The first letter is 1993 01:06:29,435 --> 01:06:31,370 always this has been brought to 1994 01:06:31,370 --> 01:06:33,807 our attention. Again, we could 1995 01:06:33,807 --> 01:06:35,841 be wrong. You MAY not be an 1996 01:06:35,841 --> 01:06:37,210 Airbnb, but it starts with a 1997 01:06:37,210 --> 01:06:39,545 letter. If you have any 1998 01:06:39,545 --> 01:06:41,945 questions, please contact us. 1999 01:06:42,820 --> 01:06:43,483 Um, and the other. And in these 2000 01:06:43,483 --> 01:06:44,951 cases, we can direct them back 2001 01:06:44,951 --> 01:06:46,352 to the planning site because 2002 01:06:46,352 --> 01:06:47,753 the fillable forms will be 2003 01:06:47,753 --> 01:06:47,954 there and they can go, oh, I 2004 01:06:47,954 --> 01:06:48,955 didn 2005 01:06:48,955 --> 01:06:50,123 t know I was supposed to 2006 01:06:50,123 --> 01:06:51,457 do that. Click, click, click. 2007 01:06:51,457 --> 01:06:54,727 And they send us what they 2008 01:06:54,727 --> 01:06:57,363 need. Um, generally we give 2009 01:06:57,363 --> 01:06:57,930 folks about ten days to respond. 2010 01:06:57,930 --> 01:06:58,631 If we don 2011 01:06:58,631 --> 01:06:58,798 t hear anything, 2012 01:06:58,798 --> 01:07:00,798 we 2013 01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:06,639 ll do a second. And of. We 2014 01:07:06,639 --> 01:07:07,841 can do citations, which is what 2015 01:07:07,841 --> 01:07:10,343 is in front of you. We can do 2016 01:07:10,343 --> 01:07:11,644 that. Schedule of citations. 2017 01:07:11,644 --> 01:07:12,712 Um, but obviously we want to 2018 01:07:12,712 --> 01:07:13,746 make very sure that we are 2019 01:07:13,746 --> 01:07:14,881 actually trying to track a 2020 01:07:14,881 --> 01:07:15,548 short term rental. And it 2021 01:07:15,548 --> 01:07:17,250 s not 2022 01:07:17,250 --> 01:07:20,250 something else. But the very 2023 01:07:20,453 --> 01:07:22,388 first thing would be a nice, 2024 01:07:22,388 --> 01:07:23,890 firm letter. We believe you 2025 01:07:23,890 --> 01:07:25,224 might be operating short term 2026 01:07:25,224 --> 01:07:27,827 rental, and we would need you 2027 01:07:27,827 --> 01:07:29,862 to apply for the permit. 2028 01:07:29,862 --> 01:07:31,960 Final question. I see we got 2029 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:31,297 first, second and third. What 2030 01:07:31,297 --> 01:07:33,297 s 2031 01:07:33,933 --> 01:07:35,933 the fourth? 2032 01:07:36,569 --> 01:07:36,836 There is, of course, that 2033 01:07:36,836 --> 01:07:37,102 s 2034 01:07:37,102 --> 01:07:37,970 where I 2035 01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:39,738 m going to call MR. 2036 01:07:39,738 --> 01:07:41,508 McGirt and say, MISTER McGirt, 2037 01:07:41,508 --> 01:07:42,308 we do not have a good listener. 2038 01:07:42,308 --> 01:07:42,508 What would we like? 2039 01:07:42,508 --> 01:07:42,875 That 2040 01:07:42,875 --> 01:07:43,142 s that 2041 01:07:43,142 --> 01:07:43,442 s what I 2042 01:07:43,442 --> 01:07:44,844 m going to 2043 01:07:44,844 --> 01:07:46,679 say. And so then I then that 2044 01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:48,881 turns my attention to is, I 2045 01:07:48,881 --> 01:07:50,881 guess, probably revocation 2046 01:07:52,852 --> 01:07:54,687 maybe of a permit. And I guess 2047 01:07:54,687 --> 01:07:57,123 from a legal standpoint, how 2048 01:07:57,123 --> 01:07:57,390 does the city defend removing 2049 01:07:57,390 --> 01:07:58,624 somebody 2050 01:07:58,624 --> 01:07:59,992 s legal permit to be 2051 01:07:59,992 --> 01:08:03,592 able to operate a short term 2052 01:08:04,264 --> 01:08:04,497 rental.? Right. As a property 2053 01:08:04,497 --> 01:08:06,320 owner? 2054 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,767 We could bring a civil action 2055 01:08:07,767 --> 01:08:09,469 to to collect the penalties and 2056 01:08:09,469 --> 01:08:12,469 also bring an injunction action 2057 01:08:12,872 --> 01:08:13,706 to revoke the permit. And, um, 2058 01:08:13,706 --> 01:08:14,707 they will have to cease 2059 01:08:14,707 --> 01:08:15,308 operating if we had a court 2060 01:08:15,308 --> 01:08:17,308 order. 2061 01:08:18,210 --> 01:08:20,413 So but I guess from a legal 2062 01:08:20,413 --> 01:08:22,115 standpoint, how do we where do 2063 01:08:22,115 --> 01:08:22,415 we stand if somebody says, 2064 01:08:22,415 --> 01:08:22,982 well, you 2065 01:08:22,982 --> 01:08:24,918 re taking away my 2066 01:08:24,918 --> 01:08:25,785 property rights by allowing me 2067 01:08:25,785 --> 01:08:26,819 to be able to operate a 2068 01:08:26,819 --> 01:08:29,819 business out of the property 2069 01:08:30,230 --> 01:08:32,392 that I own. Do do we have any 2070 01:08:32,392 --> 01:08:33,726 case law that says that we have 2071 01:08:33,726 --> 01:08:34,827 the right to be able to do 2072 01:08:34,827 --> 01:08:36,228 something like that, where we 2073 01:08:36,228 --> 01:08:38,130 can prevent somebody from 2074 01:08:38,130 --> 01:08:39,599 actually having a rental? 2075 01:08:39,599 --> 01:08:40,967 Well, the case law says that 2076 01:08:40,967 --> 01:08:43,403 cities that have the authority 2077 01:08:43,403 --> 01:08:44,971 to zone to zone buildings and 2078 01:08:44,971 --> 01:08:46,305 land, um, the short term rental 2079 01:08:46,305 --> 01:08:47,607 case that I was talking about 2080 01:08:47,607 --> 01:08:48,641 out of Wilmington, it said that 2081 01:08:48,641 --> 01:08:49,209 they had a Wilmington 2082 01:08:49,209 --> 01:08:50,760 s program 2083 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:51,770 was illegal because it was a 2084 01:08:51,770 --> 01:08:52,812 rental registration program. 2085 01:08:52,812 --> 01:08:54,947 But the court said that the 2086 01:08:54,947 --> 01:08:56,820 cities could still zone use 2087 01:08:56,820 --> 01:08:58,217 zoning to regulate short term 2088 01:08:58,217 --> 01:09:00,586 rentals. And we drafted this 2089 01:09:00,586 --> 01:09:02,121 ordinance in light of that case 2090 01:09:02,121 --> 01:09:03,990 so we could bring a civil 2091 01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:05,491 action to to revoke the permit 2092 01:09:05,491 --> 01:09:06,659 and cease them from operating. 2093 01:09:06,659 --> 01:09:06,826 So so essentially, there 2094 01:09:06,826 --> 01:09:07,960 s 2095 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,829 nothing I guess it would just 2096 01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:11,497 be if somebody decided to just 2097 01:09:11,497 --> 01:09:13,299 kind of like they could sue for 2098 01:09:13,299 --> 01:09:14,467 any other reason that they 2099 01:09:14,467 --> 01:09:14,700 would establish a case law. 2100 01:09:14,700 --> 01:09:16,202 For it. 2101 01:09:16,202 --> 01:09:16,369 They could try to sue and say, 2102 01:09:16,369 --> 01:09:16,535 we 2103 01:09:16,535 --> 01:09:17,269 re. 2104 01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:17,971 Taking away their. 2105 01:09:17,971 --> 01:09:19,305 Property rights. 2106 01:09:19,305 --> 01:09:20,874 The case law is clear. Cities 2107 01:09:20,874 --> 01:09:23,510 have the authority to his own 2108 01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:25,111 property and to, um, enact 2109 01:09:25,111 --> 01:09:26,213 short term rental zoning 2110 01:09:26,213 --> 01:09:27,213 ordinances as well. You have to 2111 01:09:27,213 --> 01:09:27,614 make sure that it doesn 2112 01:09:27,614 --> 01:09:27,780 t. It 2113 01:09:27,780 --> 01:09:29,150 s 2114 01:09:29,150 --> 01:09:29,615 not a rental registration 2115 01:09:29,615 --> 01:09:30,349 program or it 2116 01:09:30,349 --> 01:09:31,418 s not a down 2117 01:09:31,418 --> 01:09:34,418 zone, but the city has 2118 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,230 authority to to zone. So. 2119 01:09:37,230 --> 01:09:38,491 We can zone. We also can put 2120 01:09:38,491 --> 01:09:40,660 reasonable time, place and 2121 01:09:40,660 --> 01:09:40,826 circumstances restrictions. 2122 01:09:40,826 --> 01:09:41,828 We 2123 01:09:41,828 --> 01:09:43,950 re not taking away their 2124 01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:43,396 property, right. We 2125 01:09:43,396 --> 01:09:44,464 re 2126 01:09:44,464 --> 01:09:44,631 regulating it. And if they 2127 01:09:44,631 --> 01:09:45,231 don 2128 01:09:45,231 --> 01:09:45,999 t comply that 2129 01:09:45,999 --> 01:09:46,599 s on them. 2130 01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:47,901 Right. So we 2131 01:09:47,901 --> 01:09:49,101 re not taking away 2132 01:09:49,101 --> 01:09:49,468 if they comply. Nothing 2133 01:09:49,468 --> 01:09:50,970 s 2134 01:09:50,970 --> 01:09:52,272 taken. I mean they gotta do is 2135 01:09:52,272 --> 01:09:54,140 comply with the and this is 2136 01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:54,306 very reasonable. Probably it 2137 01:09:54,306 --> 01:09:55,474 s 2138 01:09:55,474 --> 01:09:56,242 a lot less than what I would 2139 01:09:56,242 --> 01:09:56,609 like to say, but it 2140 01:09:56,609 --> 01:09:57,309 s a 2141 01:09:57,309 --> 01:09:57,643 starting point. 2142 01:09:57,643 --> 01:09:57,944 Yeah. 2143 01:09:57,944 --> 01:09:58,611 And I 2144 01:09:58,611 --> 01:09:58,945 m not arguing that. 2145 01:09:58,945 --> 01:09:59,479 I just don 2146 01:09:59,479 --> 01:09:59,612 t understand. I 2147 01:09:59,612 --> 01:10:00,146 m 2148 01:10:00,146 --> 01:10:01,547 just saying I. 2149 01:10:01,547 --> 01:10:03,820 Just want to see from the 2150 01:10:03,820 --> 01:10:03,416 situation. If we get into that, 2151 01:10:03,416 --> 01:10:03,850 because you 2152 01:10:03,850 --> 01:10:04,817 ve got a lot of 2153 01:10:04,817 --> 01:10:05,452 people that are operating right 2154 01:10:05,452 --> 01:10:05,752 now, and I 2155 01:10:05,752 --> 01:10:05,952 m sure they 2156 01:10:05,952 --> 01:10:06,786 re not 2157 01:10:06,786 --> 01:10:09,455 going to be real happy about 2158 01:10:09,455 --> 01:10:10,890 the changes and having to to 2159 01:10:10,890 --> 01:10:12,959 register and go through the 2160 01:10:12,959 --> 01:10:13,927 process. And having this. My 2161 01:10:13,927 --> 01:10:15,594 thought is you probably have 2162 01:10:15,594 --> 01:10:15,995 some angry people, and I want 2163 01:10:15,995 --> 01:10:16,762 to make sure it 2164 01:10:16,762 --> 01:10:17,930 s defensible 2165 01:10:17,930 --> 01:10:18,331 from a city standpoint. 2166 01:10:18,331 --> 01:10:18,597 And again, it 2167 01:10:18,597 --> 01:10:19,199 s not a 2168 01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:19,765 registration. It 2169 01:10:19,765 --> 01:10:20,767 s requiring 2170 01:10:20,767 --> 01:10:21,000 them to get a zoning permit. 2171 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,768 And we 2172 01:10:22,768 --> 01:10:24,670 re giving them one year. 2173 01:10:24,670 --> 01:10:26,105 Those existing short term 2174 01:10:26,105 --> 01:10:27,940 rentals are giving, given one 2175 01:10:27,940 --> 01:10:28,340 year to obtain the permit. 2176 01:10:28,340 --> 01:10:30,340 Okay. 2177 01:10:30,376 --> 01:10:30,877 It would be the same thing as a 2178 01:10:30,877 --> 01:10:31,410 homeowner who 2179 01:10:31,410 --> 01:10:32,512 s subject to 2180 01:10:32,512 --> 01:10:33,312 nuisance. We have a nuisance 2181 01:10:33,312 --> 01:10:34,847 ordinance in the city of 2182 01:10:34,847 --> 01:10:35,848 Greenville that has homeowners 2183 01:10:35,848 --> 01:10:36,150 or people who live in a home. 2184 01:10:36,150 --> 01:10:37,783 We 2185 01:10:37,783 --> 01:10:37,951 re all subject to, and so 2186 01:10:37,951 --> 01:10:38,551 it 2187 01:10:38,551 --> 01:10:38,851 s no different. We 2188 01:10:38,851 --> 01:10:39,585 re just 2189 01:10:39,585 --> 01:10:39,753 putting in here like you 2190 01:10:39,753 --> 01:10:41,521 re 2191 01:10:41,521 --> 01:10:42,922 subject to these types of 2192 01:10:42,922 --> 01:10:43,756 violations. If you don 2193 01:10:43,756 --> 01:10:45,756 t run 2194 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:46,325 your business appropriately. I 2195 01:10:46,325 --> 01:10:47,860 don 2196 01:10:47,860 --> 01:10:48,762 t see any problem with it 2197 01:10:48,762 --> 01:10:50,290 from a standpoint, because I 2198 01:10:50,290 --> 01:10:50,863 look into this pretty heavily. 2199 01:10:50,863 --> 01:10:51,264 I mean, I think it 2200 01:10:51,264 --> 01:10:52,765 s a good 2201 01:10:52,765 --> 01:10:53,600 starting point, and maybe we 2202 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,000 can even look further down the 2203 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:54,635 road, but I don 2204 01:10:54,635 --> 01:10:55,902 t see any legal 2205 01:10:55,902 --> 01:10:56,135 problems with it in terms of 2206 01:10:56,135 --> 01:10:56,769 what we 2207 01:10:56,769 --> 01:10:57,300 ve done, because it 2208 01:10:57,300 --> 01:10:58,671 s 2209 01:10:58,671 --> 01:10:59,705 so minor and it puts the onus 2210 01:10:59,705 --> 01:11:00,340 on them that you 2211 01:11:00,340 --> 01:11:01,674 re only paying 2212 01:11:01,674 --> 01:11:03,843 any fees or anything if you 2213 01:11:03,843 --> 01:11:05,344 violate what are typically 2214 01:11:05,344 --> 01:11:05,612 reasonable standards. It 2215 01:11:05,612 --> 01:11:07,612 s a 2216 01:11:07,714 --> 01:11:09,682 nuisance and and use of drugs 2217 01:11:09,682 --> 01:11:11,384 or controlled substances or 2218 01:11:11,384 --> 01:11:12,818 noise ordinances and parking 2219 01:11:12,818 --> 01:11:15,218 violations that we regulated 2220 01:11:15,521 --> 01:11:18,891 for centuries in this city are 2221 01:11:18,891 --> 01:11:19,793 not centuries, but a long time. 2222 01:11:19,793 --> 01:11:20,760 Thank you, MR. Attorney. 2223 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:20,894 Thank you, MR. Attorney. You 2224 01:11:20,894 --> 01:11:21,794 re 2225 01:11:21,794 --> 01:11:23,463 welcome. 2226 01:11:23,463 --> 01:11:24,698 I had the same questions, but 2227 01:11:24,698 --> 01:11:27,233 it was from the other end of 2228 01:11:27,233 --> 01:11:28,968 the spectrum that if somebody 2229 01:11:28,968 --> 01:11:29,869 consistently violates, you 2230 01:11:29,869 --> 01:11:31,571 know, what would happen 2231 01:11:31,571 --> 01:11:33,372 because, you know, it affects 2232 01:11:33,372 --> 01:11:36,209 citizens quality of life. So 2233 01:11:36,209 --> 01:11:37,410 that was where my concern was, 2234 01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:38,545 is what would happen at that 2235 01:11:38,545 --> 01:11:40,580 point. So I appreciate you 2236 01:11:40,580 --> 01:11:41,347 answering that question. 2237 01:11:41,347 --> 01:11:42,982 All right. 2238 01:11:42,982 --> 01:11:43,216 And then, uh, did you say that 2239 01:11:43,216 --> 01:11:44,283 we don 2240 01:11:44,283 --> 01:11:45,952 t know the exact 2241 01:11:45,952 --> 01:11:47,353 location of all short term 2242 01:11:47,353 --> 01:11:49,353 rentals? 2243 01:11:50,256 --> 01:11:52,793 Yeah. The website that we used 2244 01:11:52,793 --> 01:11:55,729 is more of a more of a website 2245 01:11:55,729 --> 01:11:56,930 for an investor, but we were 2246 01:11:56,930 --> 01:11:58,331 able to download that 2247 01:11:58,331 --> 01:11:59,565 information. Some of the 2248 01:11:59,565 --> 01:12:00,634 things, some of the properties 2249 01:12:00,634 --> 01:12:01,968 we were able to identify, 2250 01:12:01,968 --> 01:12:03,803 because people actually put the 2251 01:12:03,803 --> 01:12:03,970 picture of the house on it. So 2252 01:12:03,970 --> 01:12:04,537 we 2253 01:12:04,537 --> 01:12:05,605 re like, oh, that 2254 01:12:05,605 --> 01:12:07,273 s the one. 2255 01:12:07,273 --> 01:12:07,440 Some, for whatever reason, 2256 01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:08,308 don 2257 01:12:08,308 --> 01:12:09,843 t put the picture out of 2258 01:12:09,843 --> 01:12:12,212 the house. So the pen just sort 2259 01:12:12,212 --> 01:12:14,848 of sits in the middle of the 2260 01:12:14,848 --> 01:12:16,549 street. So we have a pen, we 2261 01:12:16,549 --> 01:12:18,651 know about where it is so we 2262 01:12:18,651 --> 01:12:19,819 can put it together. But but 2263 01:12:19,819 --> 01:12:21,687 some of them are a little 2264 01:12:21,687 --> 01:12:23,456 fuzzier. Um, so we had to do 2265 01:12:23,456 --> 01:12:25,124 some sleuthing of our own to 2266 01:12:25,124 --> 01:12:26,960 try to, uh, take out some of 2267 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:27,761 the static. 2268 01:12:27,761 --> 01:12:29,562 So let 2269 01:12:29,562 --> 01:12:30,463 s say potentially for 2270 01:12:30,463 --> 01:12:30,630 one of the properties that we 2271 01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:31,498 don 2272 01:12:31,498 --> 01:12:34,498 t know the exact location 2273 01:12:34,667 --> 01:12:36,269 of when the 365 day mark, uh, 2274 01:12:36,269 --> 01:12:38,538 comes across, how are we going 2275 01:12:38,538 --> 01:12:39,739 to ensure that all short term 2276 01:12:39,739 --> 01:12:39,905 rentals are in compliance if we 2277 01:12:39,905 --> 01:12:41,107 don 2278 01:12:41,107 --> 01:12:41,941 t know the exact locations? 2279 01:12:41,941 --> 01:12:44,944 Or is it going to be like an 2280 01:12:44,944 --> 01:12:46,546 honor system for the operators? 2281 01:12:46,546 --> 01:12:49,449 Somewhat of an honor system, 2282 01:12:49,449 --> 01:12:50,550 but also we as a staff will 2283 01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:52,452 still have to keep track 2284 01:12:52,452 --> 01:12:53,886 because you come you you could 2285 01:12:53,886 --> 01:12:55,855 have some people who fall out 2286 01:12:55,855 --> 01:12:56,220 of the market who decide they 2287 01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:57,590 don 2288 01:12:57,590 --> 01:13:00,260 t want to do it anymore, 2289 01:13:00,260 --> 01:13:02,395 but, you know, we did this 2290 01:13:02,395 --> 01:13:05,798 about a year or so ago. I think 2291 01:13:05,798 --> 01:13:08,340 we added maybe 80 more units 2292 01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:09,770 since that time. So it will 2293 01:13:09,770 --> 01:13:12,572 constantly be where staff will 2294 01:13:12,572 --> 01:13:13,973 have to go in harvest as do as 2295 01:13:13,973 --> 01:13:16,676 best as we can. And some of 2296 01:13:16,676 --> 01:13:19,178 them MAY be, um, from phone 2297 01:13:19,178 --> 01:13:19,345 calls and someone reporting. 2298 01:13:19,345 --> 01:13:21,345 It 2299 01:13:22,915 --> 01:13:25,351 s an Airbnb. Okay, so it is 2300 01:13:25,351 --> 01:13:26,886 not a perfect science. Uh, 2301 01:13:26,886 --> 01:13:27,587 Airbnb again, doesn 2302 01:13:27,587 --> 01:13:28,822 t require 2303 01:13:28,822 --> 01:13:30,389 you to put the picture of the 2304 01:13:30,389 --> 01:13:32,792 property because that is a 2305 01:13:32,792 --> 01:13:35,294 security issue. So it will be a 2306 01:13:35,294 --> 01:13:35,762 little sleuthing on our side as 2307 01:13:35,762 --> 01:13:37,970 well. 2308 01:13:37,970 --> 01:13:37,964 So some properties could 2309 01:13:37,964 --> 01:13:38,565 potentially slip through the 2310 01:13:38,565 --> 01:13:39,299 cracks, which is. 2311 01:13:39,299 --> 01:13:41,299 That. 2312 01:13:46,172 --> 01:13:47,607 Well, yes. However, um, if they 2313 01:13:47,607 --> 01:13:48,740 are good listeners, we MAY not 2314 01:13:48,740 --> 01:13:49,141 know that they 2315 01:13:49,141 --> 01:13:49,342 re there. And 2316 01:13:49,342 --> 01:13:51,342 that 2317 01:13:52,111 --> 01:13:53,746 s the intention is to be a 2318 01:13:53,746 --> 01:13:55,746 good neighbor. 2319 01:13:56,215 --> 01:13:58,117 And then one more question. Do 2320 01:13:58,117 --> 01:13:59,252 they how often does the permit 2321 01:13:59,252 --> 01:14:01,655 need to be renewed? Is it every 2322 01:14:01,655 --> 01:14:03,190 year. One time, just one time? 2323 01:14:03,190 --> 01:14:03,456 Did we say that I can 2324 01:14:03,456 --> 01:14:04,591 t 2325 01:14:04,591 --> 01:14:06,692 remember. Did we say the the 2326 01:14:06,692 --> 01:14:07,426 amount for the permit? Is there 2327 01:14:07,426 --> 01:14:07,860 amount? 2328 01:14:07,860 --> 01:14:08,561 Uh. 2329 01:14:08,561 --> 01:14:09,262 We have not. It 2330 01:14:09,262 --> 01:14:11,662 s not in the 2331 01:14:11,698 --> 01:14:14,980 manual of fees. So. 2332 01:14:16,402 --> 01:14:17,870 That was about. Okay. 2333 01:14:17,870 --> 01:14:19,839 I mean is it something that we 2334 01:14:19,839 --> 01:14:21,700 should have, you know, you have 2335 01:14:21,700 --> 01:14:22,542 to renew every year so we can 2336 01:14:22,542 --> 01:14:24,744 keep better track of which ones 2337 01:14:24,744 --> 01:14:26,813 are still operating and which 2338 01:14:26,813 --> 01:14:28,214 ones are new. 2339 01:14:28,214 --> 01:14:30,550 That would be something for the 2340 01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:32,180 whole council to to think 2341 01:14:32,180 --> 01:14:33,920 about. We have just put it as 2342 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:34,854 a, as a one time permit. 2343 01:14:34,854 --> 01:14:35,689 I think, I think one of our 2344 01:14:35,689 --> 01:14:36,490 attorneys over here has 2345 01:14:36,490 --> 01:14:38,570 something to say. MISTER, 2346 01:14:38,570 --> 01:14:39,192 MISTER Birch. 2347 01:14:39,192 --> 01:14:39,826 What up, MISTER Birch? 2348 01:14:39,826 --> 01:14:41,826 The answer to. 2349 01:14:42,620 --> 01:14:43,263 That would be no. Um, because 2350 01:14:43,263 --> 01:14:44,731 that would be. Tantamount to 2351 01:14:44,731 --> 01:14:44,931 the registration. 2352 01:14:44,931 --> 01:14:46,931 Yeah. 2353 01:14:47,133 --> 01:14:48,802 And in order to be compliant 2354 01:14:48,802 --> 01:14:50,670 with state law, we would need 2355 01:14:50,670 --> 01:14:53,539 to avoid that. And the way to 2356 01:14:53,539 --> 01:14:55,976 do that is, at one time, um, 2357 01:14:55,976 --> 01:14:56,610 uh, registration or one. 2358 01:14:56,610 --> 01:14:56,910 But using that. 2359 01:14:56,910 --> 01:14:58,879 Word, don 2360 01:14:58,879 --> 01:14:59,246 t say that. Yeah. 2361 01:14:59,246 --> 01:14:59,946 Perfect. 2362 01:14:59,946 --> 01:15:01,946 Thank you. 2363 01:15:02,716 --> 01:15:04,851 Yeah. I appreciate how tactful 2364 01:15:04,851 --> 01:15:05,885 MISS Gooby is. The reality of 2365 01:15:05,885 --> 01:15:07,387 it is, is our our code of 2366 01:15:07,387 --> 01:15:09,155 ordinances is about six inches 2367 01:15:09,155 --> 01:15:09,889 thick. And we have individuals 2368 01:15:09,889 --> 01:15:11,491 that are violating those 2369 01:15:11,491 --> 01:15:13,930 ordinances every single day. 2370 01:15:13,930 --> 01:15:15,194 And if you have bad neighbors 2371 01:15:15,194 --> 01:15:16,960 out there, uh, our experience 2372 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:16,729 has been we 2373 01:15:16,729 --> 01:15:17,964 re going to know 2374 01:15:17,964 --> 01:15:19,432 about it. 2375 01:15:19,432 --> 01:15:22,669 You find out sooner or later. 2376 01:15:22,669 --> 01:15:24,604 Yes. All right. If no other 2377 01:15:24,604 --> 01:15:26,573 questions, public hearing is 2378 01:15:26,573 --> 01:15:27,507 now open. Those who speak on 2379 01:15:27,507 --> 01:15:28,274 behalf of applicant MAY come 2380 01:15:28,274 --> 01:15:29,109 forward. Please state your name 2381 01:15:29,109 --> 01:15:30,210 for the record, first person 2382 01:15:30,210 --> 01:15:33,210 has ten minutes. All others 2383 01:15:42,789 --> 01:15:43,457 have three minutes. 2384 01:15:43,457 --> 01:15:44,223 Hello? 2385 01:15:44,223 --> 01:15:46,223 Hello. 2386 01:15:46,793 --> 01:15:48,595 Uh. Good evening Council. I am 2387 01:15:48,595 --> 01:15:50,296 Venus Diamond. I have been a 2388 01:15:50,296 --> 01:15:51,698 resident of Greenville for two 2389 01:15:51,698 --> 01:15:53,266 and a half years. Resident of 2390 01:15:53,266 --> 01:15:55,435 North Carolina for eight years. 2391 01:15:55,435 --> 01:15:56,169 Um, I would like to show my 2392 01:15:56,169 --> 01:15:57,938 appreciation for this 2393 01:15:57,938 --> 01:15:59,305 ordinance. I think this is a 2394 01:15:59,305 --> 01:16:01,941 very good step, and I would 2395 01:16:01,941 --> 01:16:03,760 like to see. I loved your 2396 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,780 comment about wanting to see 2397 01:16:05,780 --> 01:16:06,779 more pushes. Um, I would love 2398 01:16:06,779 --> 01:16:08,482 to see more pushes, uh, and 2399 01:16:08,482 --> 01:16:10,617 more restrictions on Airbnbs 2400 01:16:10,617 --> 01:16:12,485 and other short term leases. I 2401 01:16:12,485 --> 01:16:13,786 think as a whole, this is going 2402 01:16:13,786 --> 01:16:15,355 to be very good for the 2403 01:16:15,355 --> 01:16:16,523 community, especially given a 2404 01:16:16,523 --> 01:16:18,624 time where the housing market 2405 01:16:18,624 --> 01:16:20,600 is inflating way more than it 2406 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,610 should be. And at the same 2407 01:16:22,610 --> 01:16:24,300 time, uh, I think this would 2408 01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:25,899 potentially bring down a lot 2409 01:16:25,899 --> 01:16:27,434 of, you know, the threshold for 2410 01:16:27,434 --> 01:16:29,636 people to be able to rent or, 2411 01:16:29,636 --> 01:16:30,403 you know, mortgage in the city. 2412 01:16:30,403 --> 01:16:32,403 Um, I 2413 01:16:33,773 --> 01:16:35,508 m sorry. Um, this would 2414 01:16:35,508 --> 01:16:36,976 also bring more business to our 2415 01:16:36,976 --> 01:16:38,244 local hotel industry, which 2416 01:16:38,244 --> 01:16:40,513 would be very nice for us to 2417 01:16:40,513 --> 01:16:42,782 have. Um, though I would like 2418 01:16:42,782 --> 01:16:44,751 to see more pushes, uh, notably 2419 01:16:44,751 --> 01:16:47,620 in a lot of the zoning, such as 2420 01:16:47,620 --> 01:16:49,489 r6, which does include a lot of 2421 01:16:49,489 --> 01:16:51,758 apartments. And I feel like if 2422 01:16:51,758 --> 01:16:53,159 that is included, it does run 2423 01:16:53,159 --> 01:16:55,462 the risk of somebody 2424 01:16:55,462 --> 01:16:57,764 potentially using an Airbnb to 2425 01:16:57,764 --> 01:16:58,664 try to undercut our hotels. And 2426 01:16:58,664 --> 01:17:01,468 I know there are a lot of 2427 01:17:01,468 --> 01:17:03,603 people, particularly people in 2428 01:17:03,603 --> 01:17:05,438 Greenville Power, who can 2429 01:17:05,438 --> 01:17:05,771 utilize this if they. So please 2430 01:17:05,771 --> 01:17:07,207 not. I 2431 01:17:07,207 --> 01:17:09,275 m saying anybody will, 2432 01:17:09,275 --> 01:17:12,145 but it is a possibility that 2433 01:17:12,145 --> 01:17:14,314 could be worrying. But as a 2434 01:17:14,314 --> 01:17:15,848 whole, I like this ordinance. 2435 01:17:15,848 --> 01:17:18,551 This, uh, feels like it will be 2436 01:17:18,551 --> 01:17:21,551 good, uh, for the community. 2437 01:17:21,821 --> 01:17:24,891 Thank you, thank you, thank you. 2438 01:17:24,891 --> 01:17:26,359 Anyone else would like to speak 2439 01:17:26,359 --> 01:17:27,260 on behalf of the applicant MAY 2440 01:17:27,260 --> 01:17:29,280 come forward. Please state your 2441 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,628 name for the record. You have 2442 01:17:39,906 --> 01:17:40,974 three minutes. See none. Those 2443 01:17:40,974 --> 01:17:41,708 in opposition to the applicant 2444 01:17:41,708 --> 01:17:42,509 MAY come forward. Please state 2445 01:17:42,509 --> 01:17:43,710 your name for the record. First 2446 01:17:43,710 --> 01:17:46,710 person has ten minutes. All 2447 01:17:56,423 --> 01:17:57,490 others have three minutes. See, 2448 01:17:57,490 --> 01:17:58,558 now the public hearing is now 2449 01:17:58,558 --> 01:18:00,460 closed. And for board 2450 01:18:00,460 --> 01:18:03,429 discussion or motion. Motion to 2451 01:18:03,429 --> 01:18:05,310 approve. Second motion was made 2452 01:18:05,310 --> 01:18:08,310 by Council member Hardy. Second 2453 01:18:08,201 --> 01:18:11,505 by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. Any 2454 01:18:11,505 --> 01:18:12,939 other discussion? All those in 2455 01:18:12,939 --> 01:18:14,740 favor say aye. Aye. Those 2456 01:18:14,740 --> 01:18:16,740 opposed say nay. 2457 01:18:16,750 --> 01:18:18,111 Motion passes five zero. 2458 01:18:18,111 --> 01:18:19,450 Move on to item number ten. Our 2459 01:18:19,450 --> 01:18:20,179 final public hearing. 2460 01:18:20,179 --> 01:18:21,615 Thank you. Mayor. Item number 2461 01:18:21,615 --> 01:18:22,815 ten. Ordinance requested by the 2462 01:18:22,815 --> 01:18:24,815 Community and Development 2463 01:18:25,170 --> 01:18:25,785 Services Department to clarify 2464 01:18:25,785 --> 01:18:27,588 the required number of 2465 01:18:27,588 --> 01:18:29,522 professional security personnel 2466 01:18:29,522 --> 01:18:31,522 and alcohol establishments. 2467 01:18:32,959 --> 01:18:34,661 Bah. Bar 2022. Microbrewery and 2468 01:18:34,661 --> 01:18:37,610 micro distillery that provide 2469 01:18:37,463 --> 01:18:39,463 amplified entertainment. After 2470 01:18:39,533 --> 01:18:40,767 11 P.M. Again, call forward or 2471 01:18:40,767 --> 01:18:43,167 Assistant Director Shanti Gubbi 2472 01:18:45,672 --> 01:18:47,540 for the presentation. 2473 01:18:47,540 --> 01:18:50,100 Hopefully this is very short. 2474 01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:50,677 Uh, this is just an item to 2475 01:18:50,677 --> 01:18:51,711 clarify, we 2476 01:18:51,711 --> 01:18:53,980 ve kind of talked 2477 01:18:53,980 --> 01:18:55,549 about this a little bit. Um, 2478 01:18:55,549 --> 01:18:57,583 this first deals with what 2479 01:18:57,583 --> 01:18:59,583 staff considers alcohol 2480 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:00,854 establishments. Um, we have or 2481 01:19:00,854 --> 01:19:02,421 excuse me, we have four 2482 01:19:02,421 --> 01:19:04,424 different uses in the city that 2483 01:19:04,424 --> 01:19:06,859 we, um, sort of categorize 2484 01:19:06,859 --> 01:19:10,459 under that umbrella. Um, a bar 2485 01:19:10,663 --> 01:19:12,299 bar, 2022 microbrewery, micro 2486 01:19:12,299 --> 01:19:13,733 distillery, um, primary 2487 01:19:13,733 --> 01:19:15,733 activity, obviously cell 2488 01:19:16,203 --> 01:19:17,703 consumption of alcohol on site. 2489 01:19:17,703 --> 01:19:18,972 All of these establishments 2490 01:19:18,972 --> 01:19:20,406 have the ability to have a 2491 01:19:20,406 --> 01:19:21,408 mixed beverage permit a little 2492 01:19:21,408 --> 01:19:24,277 different than just wine and 2493 01:19:24,277 --> 01:19:26,120 beer. Um, in MAY of this year, 2494 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,548 city staff brought a text 2495 01:19:28,548 --> 01:19:30,817 amendment to clarify the number 2496 01:19:30,817 --> 01:19:33,217 of, um, professional security 2497 01:19:33,353 --> 01:19:35,589 personnel that are required at 2498 01:19:35,589 --> 01:19:37,589 alcohol establishments with, 2499 01:19:37,624 --> 01:19:39,624 uh, amplified entertainment 2500 01:19:39,693 --> 01:19:42,195 after 11 P.M., so it only 2501 01:19:42,195 --> 01:19:43,296 counts after 11 P.M.. Um, at 2502 01:19:43,296 --> 01:19:45,198 that meeting, there was some 2503 01:19:45,198 --> 01:19:46,899 discussion that requiring 2504 01:19:46,899 --> 01:19:49,690 security personnel MAY be 2505 01:19:49,690 --> 01:19:50,837 burdensome, um, to small 2506 01:19:50,837 --> 01:19:52,572 businesses. After there was 2507 01:19:52,572 --> 01:19:54,641 some discussion staffs bringing 2508 01:19:54,641 --> 01:19:57,343 this back, um, with the text 2509 01:19:57,343 --> 01:19:59,146 amendment and it same version 2510 01:19:59,146 --> 01:20:01,546 as far as amplified 2511 01:20:01,581 --> 01:20:03,783 entertainment or udo says 2512 01:20:03,783 --> 01:20:05,783 amplified entertainment shall 2513 01:20:05,785 --> 01:20:07,354 shall mean any type of music or 2514 01:20:07,354 --> 01:20:08,955 other entertainment delivered 2515 01:20:08,955 --> 01:20:10,390 through and by an electronic 2516 01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:12,826 system. So that could be music. 2517 01:20:12,826 --> 01:20:16,229 It could be bingo. So the 2518 01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:17,764 proposed language again, is 2519 01:20:17,764 --> 01:20:18,265 based on the occupancy of the 2520 01:20:18,265 --> 01:20:18,966 building. So it 2521 01:20:18,966 --> 01:20:20,100 s not based on 2522 01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:22,336 the number of people that are 2523 01:20:22,336 --> 01:20:23,470 there at that night. And so 2524 01:20:23,470 --> 01:20:26,840 what this says is if you have 2525 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,142 an occupancy between 1 and 200, 2526 01:20:29,142 --> 01:20:30,610 you will have two security 2527 01:20:30,610 --> 01:20:33,790 personnel required to be on 2528 01:20:33,790 --> 01:20:34,881 site. And then for every 100 2529 01:20:34,881 --> 01:20:37,517 people, essentially you add one 2530 01:20:37,517 --> 01:20:40,517 more person. So 2 to 300 would 2531 01:20:40,620 --> 01:20:43,924 be three. Um, and then it goes 2532 01:20:43,924 --> 01:20:46,526 a bit further to say, um, again 2533 01:20:46,526 --> 01:20:47,827 after 11 P.M., um shall employ 2534 01:20:47,827 --> 01:20:49,729 no less than two security 2535 01:20:49,729 --> 01:20:51,364 guards in order for one 2536 01:20:51,364 --> 01:20:52,766 security guard to be inside, 2537 01:20:52,766 --> 01:20:55,269 and then one security guard to 2538 01:20:55,269 --> 01:20:56,203 be able to patrol private 2539 01:20:56,203 --> 01:20:56,469 parking lot. So if they 2540 01:20:56,469 --> 01:20:57,237 re 2541 01:20:57,237 --> 01:20:57,370 downtown and they don 2542 01:20:57,370 --> 01:20:59,272 t 2543 01:20:59,272 --> 01:21:00,573 actually have a parking lot, 2544 01:21:00,573 --> 01:21:03,573 then both of the security 2545 01:21:03,710 --> 01:21:04,411 personnel can be inside. Um, 2546 01:21:04,411 --> 01:21:05,378 and then staff 2547 01:21:05,378 --> 01:21:07,378 s opinion this 2548 01:21:07,548 --> 01:21:09,616 request is in compliance with 2549 01:21:09,616 --> 01:21:11,151 the comprehensive plan. Uh, 2550 01:21:11,151 --> 01:21:13,551 chapter four, Growing the 2551 01:21:13,686 --> 01:21:16,389 Economic hub, which is goal 2552 01:21:16,389 --> 01:21:17,958 4.3, modernize and Diversify 2553 01:21:17,958 --> 01:21:19,292 the local economy. Support the 2554 01:21:19,292 --> 01:21:20,627 growth of a variety of 2555 01:21:20,627 --> 01:21:22,129 employment opportunities and 2556 01:21:22,129 --> 01:21:22,430 businesses that diversify 2557 01:21:22,430 --> 01:21:24,640 Greenville 2558 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:25,765 s economy. Provide 2559 01:21:25,765 --> 01:21:26,933 workers with a range of skill 2560 01:21:26,933 --> 01:21:28,680 sets and training, and 2561 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:29,903 encourage business growth 2562 01:21:29,903 --> 01:21:30,870 within the incorporated areas 2563 01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:32,500 and diversify Greenville 2564 01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:33,573 s tax 2565 01:21:33,573 --> 01:21:35,442 base. And then further, we also 2566 01:21:35,442 --> 01:21:36,876 have a second one in here. This 2567 01:21:36,876 --> 01:21:38,678 is from chapter one. And this 2568 01:21:38,678 --> 01:21:41,678 is growing the economic hub. 2569 01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:43,851 1.4 a vibrant uptown support 2570 01:21:43,851 --> 01:21:44,484 and control uptown nightlife. 2571 01:21:44,484 --> 01:21:45,285 Uptown is Greenville 2572 01:21:45,285 --> 01:21:47,285 s vibrant 2573 01:21:47,521 --> 01:21:48,955 and walkable nightlife district 2574 01:21:48,955 --> 01:21:50,657 that supports a variety of high 2575 01:21:50,657 --> 01:21:52,492 quality, responsible drinking 2576 01:21:52,492 --> 01:21:53,793 and restaurant establishments. 2577 01:21:53,793 --> 01:21:55,620 A thriving nightlife that can 2578 01:21:55,620 --> 01:21:56,629 attract and retain young 2579 01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:58,432 professionals that, in turn, 2580 01:21:58,432 --> 01:21:59,933 attract high quality employers. 2581 01:21:59,933 --> 01:22:01,100 This does not mean nightlife 2582 01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:02,335 activities need to be allowed 2583 01:22:02,335 --> 01:22:03,870 to run out of control. 2584 01:22:03,870 --> 01:22:05,605 Appropriate standards for these 2585 01:22:05,605 --> 01:22:07,974 businesses should be enforced 2586 01:22:07,974 --> 01:22:10,760 so that uptown can be enjoyed 2587 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:11,277 safely and responsible. 2588 01:22:11,277 --> 01:22:13,470 Therefore, staff recommends 2589 01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:14,414 approval of the proposed 2590 01:22:14,414 --> 01:22:15,215 amendment. This one 2591 01:22:15,215 --> 01:22:17,215 s a little 2592 01:22:17,518 --> 01:22:19,720 different. Uh, at the JULY 2593 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,555 21st, 2026 Planning and Zoning 2594 01:22:21,555 --> 01:22:23,923 Commission, um, they voted 2595 01:22:23,923 --> 01:22:25,359 unanimously with a motion. Um, 2596 01:22:25,359 --> 01:22:28,940 but the motion had a little 2597 01:22:28,940 --> 01:22:29,963 tweak to it. So they, uh, did 2598 01:22:29,963 --> 01:22:31,764 recommend approval, but they 2599 01:22:31,764 --> 01:22:33,534 went further and said while the 2600 01:22:33,534 --> 01:22:34,968 commission, um, did recommend 2601 01:22:34,968 --> 01:22:36,302 approval of the amendment, 2602 01:22:36,302 --> 01:22:37,904 there was language included in 2603 01:22:37,904 --> 01:22:39,840 the motion that there should be 2604 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,408 consideration given to the 2605 01:22:41,408 --> 01:22:42,975 economic impact on small 2606 01:22:42,975 --> 01:22:45,645 businesses to consider the use 2607 01:22:45,645 --> 01:22:47,748 of bouncers as a substitute for 2608 01:22:47,748 --> 01:22:49,182 professional security personnel. 2609 01:22:49,182 --> 01:22:49,849 And with that, I 2610 01:22:49,849 --> 01:22:51,351 ll be glad to 2611 01:22:51,351 --> 01:22:52,619 answer any questions. 2612 01:22:52,619 --> 01:22:54,121 Any questions? 2613 01:22:54,121 --> 01:22:57,121 One question on your proposed 2614 01:22:59,159 --> 01:23:01,761 language. If you go back to it. 2615 01:23:01,761 --> 01:23:02,963 There is says 1200. You really 2616 01:23:02,963 --> 01:23:03,463 mean 1 to 200, don 2617 01:23:03,463 --> 01:23:03,864 t you 2618 01:23:03,864 --> 01:23:04,970 establish. 2619 01:23:04,970 --> 01:23:04,664 Oh, I 2620 01:23:04,664 --> 01:23:04,898 m sorry, there 2621 01:23:04,898 --> 01:23:05,599 s a 2622 01:23:05,599 --> 01:23:05,733 hyphen. 2623 01:23:05,733 --> 01:23:06,666 I 2624 01:23:06,666 --> 01:23:07,767 m sorry. Yeah. 2625 01:23:07,767 --> 01:23:10,637 Okay. Just that and that 2626 01:23:10,637 --> 01:23:12,637 s it. 2627 01:23:13,941 --> 01:23:16,609 And what? Why? Or, staff 2628 01:23:16,609 --> 01:23:17,577 bringing back the same version 2629 01:23:17,577 --> 01:23:19,577 of the text. 2630 01:23:20,346 --> 01:23:22,346 That. 2631 01:23:22,583 --> 01:23:25,850 When I brought it to you in 2632 01:23:25,850 --> 01:23:26,186 MAY, um, there was some 2633 01:23:26,186 --> 01:23:26,520 discussion. I don 2634 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,288 t want to 2635 01:23:28,288 --> 01:23:30,924 call names, but there was some 2636 01:23:30,924 --> 01:23:33,324 discussion that perhaps, um, 2637 01:23:33,427 --> 01:23:35,695 this was expensive and that it 2638 01:23:35,695 --> 01:23:37,798 could be overly burdensome, uh, 2639 01:23:37,798 --> 01:23:39,799 to some of the establishments. 2640 01:23:39,799 --> 01:23:40,330 We had a council work session. 2641 01:23:40,330 --> 01:23:41,000 I don 2642 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,403 t know if you were at 2643 01:23:43,403 --> 01:23:45,605 that one. And so the decision 2644 01:23:45,605 --> 01:23:46,939 was to go with the professional 2645 01:23:46,939 --> 01:23:49,109 security as opposed to the 2646 01:23:49,109 --> 01:23:50,643 bouncers, because security, 2647 01:23:50,643 --> 01:23:52,446 professional security personnel 2648 01:23:52,446 --> 01:23:55,649 would include off duty cops or 2649 01:23:55,649 --> 01:23:57,584 actual professional, um, 2650 01:23:57,584 --> 01:23:59,984 security personnel, as opposed 2651 01:24:00,353 --> 01:24:03,353 to bouncers have less training 2652 01:24:05,759 --> 01:24:07,428 and bouncers. Purview. If you 2653 01:24:07,428 --> 01:24:08,562 will stop at the door of the 2654 01:24:08,562 --> 01:24:08,995 establishment so they can 2655 01:24:08,995 --> 01:24:10,230 t go 2656 01:24:10,230 --> 01:24:10,798 any further. So you 2657 01:24:10,798 --> 01:24:12,798 re going to 2658 01:24:16,536 --> 01:24:20,136 get, um, a person with more 2659 01:24:22,309 --> 01:24:24,811 training and the ability to. 2660 01:24:24,811 --> 01:24:26,579 Provide service outside of the 2661 01:24:26,579 --> 01:24:28,579 establishment. 2662 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:29,349 And then are the just to make 2663 01:24:29,349 --> 01:24:30,618 sure that I 2664 01:24:30,618 --> 01:24:33,180 m clear, are the 2665 01:24:33,153 --> 01:24:34,655 current, um, bars whatever you 2666 01:24:34,655 --> 01:24:34,988 want to call grandfathered into 2667 01:24:34,988 --> 01:24:36,988 this is. 2668 01:24:37,570 --> 01:24:39,560 Yes. This does not affect any 2669 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,610 pre-existing. 2670 01:24:41,610 --> 01:24:42,362 So it would include any 2671 01:24:42,362 --> 01:24:44,664 business that opens up with a 2672 01:24:44,664 --> 01:24:46,433 special use permit under for 2673 01:24:46,433 --> 01:24:48,433 2022. Correct. 2674 01:24:48,869 --> 01:24:50,869 Microbrewery. Micro distillery 2675 01:24:53,940 --> 01:24:56,310 bar 2022. Yes. Any of the four? 2676 01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:57,577 Me personally, I still have the 2677 01:24:57,577 --> 01:24:58,845 same opinion as, uh, 2678 01:24:58,845 --> 01:25:00,800 Councilmember Scully when this 2679 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,316 was last brought up. I do think 2680 01:25:02,316 --> 01:25:03,484 that this will be burdensome to 2681 01:25:03,484 --> 01:25:05,919 some small businesses. And I 2682 01:25:05,919 --> 01:25:07,530 also think that it will, uh, 2683 01:25:07,530 --> 01:25:09,289 keep some college students out 2684 01:25:09,289 --> 01:25:10,591 of, uh, some jobs because those 2685 01:25:10,591 --> 01:25:12,359 are who mainly staff and 2686 01:25:12,359 --> 01:25:14,394 balance, uh, the, the clubs and 2687 01:25:14,394 --> 01:25:15,929 the nightlife down here. Um, so 2688 01:25:15,929 --> 01:25:18,131 I just want to make that be 2689 01:25:18,131 --> 01:25:19,900 done. For the record. 2690 01:25:19,900 --> 01:25:21,301 All right. Any other comments? 2691 01:25:21,301 --> 01:25:23,301 Questions? 2692 01:25:24,404 --> 01:25:24,671 Uh, I have one in, uh, I don 2693 01:25:24,671 --> 01:25:25,405 t 2694 01:25:25,405 --> 01:25:26,739 even drink. And I 2695 01:25:26,739 --> 01:25:28,542 m swimming in 2696 01:25:28,542 --> 01:25:30,942 alcohol after all this 2697 01:25:31,945 --> 01:25:34,345 conversation. Um, about this, 2698 01:25:35,150 --> 01:25:38,615 but, um, has there been any 2699 01:25:39,420 --> 01:25:40,854 conversation, uh, with, uh, 2700 01:25:40,854 --> 01:25:43,254 businesses or bar owners 2701 01:25:45,425 --> 01:25:47,425 outside of downtown? 2702 01:25:47,961 --> 01:25:50,330 No, because the ones that we 2703 01:25:50,330 --> 01:25:52,699 have now are under the old the 2704 01:25:52,699 --> 01:25:55,935 old rules. So, uh, so the 2705 01:25:55,935 --> 01:25:56,103 answer is, is no. But we also 2706 01:25:56,103 --> 01:25:58,103 don 2707 01:25:58,171 --> 01:26:01,800 t have very many of them 2708 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:02,609 either. The microbreweries and 2709 01:26:02,609 --> 01:26:05,312 the micro distilleries. We have 2710 01:26:05,312 --> 01:26:05,580 are really downtown. Um, and, 2711 01:26:05,580 --> 01:26:06,546 and they 2712 01:26:06,546 --> 01:26:09,416 re not going to be 2713 01:26:09,416 --> 01:26:10,917 affected because they already 2714 01:26:10,917 --> 01:26:13,420 have a special use permit. So 2715 01:26:13,420 --> 01:26:16,890 they were ahead of this. So my 2716 01:26:16,890 --> 01:26:16,523 point is, is it is, um, it 2717 01:26:16,523 --> 01:26:17,991 s 2718 01:26:17,991 --> 01:26:19,826 only going to affect those that 2719 01:26:19,826 --> 01:26:21,795 would walk in the door and we 2720 01:26:21,795 --> 01:26:25,995 would say, oh, by the way, this 2721 01:26:27,234 --> 01:26:29,403 is a new requirement. Mm. 2722 01:26:29,403 --> 01:26:31,271 Can I ask our deputy chief a 2723 01:26:31,271 --> 01:26:32,305 question about this. Does the 2724 01:26:32,305 --> 01:26:34,107 police department feel that 2725 01:26:34,107 --> 01:26:34,808 this is something that is 2726 01:26:34,808 --> 01:26:36,808 necessary? Y 2727 01:26:38,812 --> 01:26:38,945 all want to see? 2728 01:26:38,945 --> 01:26:40,147 I 2729 01:26:40,147 --> 01:26:42,716 m sorry to put you on. 2730 01:26:42,716 --> 01:26:44,517 No pressure. 2731 01:26:44,517 --> 01:26:46,286 Well, um. 2732 01:26:46,286 --> 01:26:47,220 Have you had have you all had 2733 01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:48,621 problems. 2734 01:26:48,621 --> 01:26:50,624 With the officers about that? 2735 01:26:50,624 --> 01:26:52,559 They actually work the area. 2736 01:26:52,559 --> 01:26:53,260 Um, I haven 2737 01:26:53,260 --> 01:26:55,950 t got a lot of 2738 01:26:55,950 --> 01:26:56,764 feedback from that. Yes, I, I, 2739 01:26:56,764 --> 01:26:58,232 I would have to believe that. 2740 01:26:58,232 --> 01:26:59,299 Get some feedback from the 2741 01:26:59,299 --> 01:27:01,735 officers that are actually on 2742 01:27:01,735 --> 01:27:03,603 the street working. 2743 01:27:03,603 --> 01:27:03,804 Thank you. 2744 01:27:03,804 --> 01:27:05,572 That 2745 01:27:05,572 --> 01:27:08,572 s a good politician answer 2746 01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:11,745 right there. I like that. All 2747 01:27:11,745 --> 01:27:14,145 right. Any other questions 2748 01:27:15,649 --> 01:27:16,650 comments. Thank you very much. 2749 01:27:16,650 --> 01:27:17,450 Public hearing is now open. 2750 01:27:17,450 --> 01:27:18,850 Those speak on behalf of the 2751 01:27:18,850 --> 01:27:18,785 outcome MAY come forward. 2752 01:27:18,785 --> 01:27:19,820 Please state your name. For the 2753 01:27:19,820 --> 01:27:21,588 record. The first person has 2754 01:27:21,588 --> 01:27:24,588 ten minutes. All others have 2755 01:27:35,269 --> 01:27:36,269 three minutes. None of those in 2756 01:27:36,269 --> 01:27:37,370 opposition to the applicant MAY 2757 01:27:37,370 --> 01:27:37,838 come forward. Please state your 2758 01:27:37,838 --> 01:27:38,872 name. For the record. The first 2759 01:27:38,872 --> 01:27:41,872 person has ten minutes. All 2760 01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:55,389 others have three minutes. The 2761 01:27:55,389 --> 01:27:56,924 public hearing is now closed. 2762 01:27:56,924 --> 01:27:59,250 Open for a board discussion or 2763 01:27:59,250 --> 01:28:01,250 a motion. 2764 01:28:01,361 --> 01:28:01,528 So if one makes a motion and I 2765 01:28:01,528 --> 01:28:03,297 don 2766 01:28:03,297 --> 01:28:05,866 t have a motion, but if one 2767 01:28:05,866 --> 01:28:09,466 makes a motion, would that be 2768 01:28:09,803 --> 01:28:10,937 with the suggestion of. 2769 01:28:10,937 --> 01:28:11,205 You could make whatever motion 2770 01:28:11,205 --> 01:28:12,172 you want. 2771 01:28:12,172 --> 01:28:12,640 To make. I don 2772 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:12,873 t want. 2773 01:28:12,873 --> 01:28:13,774 To make. 2774 01:28:13,774 --> 01:28:15,442 A motion. 2775 01:28:15,442 --> 01:28:15,976 You can take their motion. You 2776 01:28:15,976 --> 01:28:16,410 can take the staff 2777 01:28:16,410 --> 01:28:18,410 s motion. 2778 01:28:23,817 --> 01:28:26,530 You can make up a motion. 2779 01:28:26,530 --> 01:28:26,286 Okay. 2780 01:28:26,286 --> 01:28:26,520 I don 2781 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:27,120 t have. 2782 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,588 A motion. 2783 01:28:28,588 --> 01:28:29,990 Did I answer your question? 2784 01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:31,990 Did. 2785 01:28:32,493 --> 01:28:34,895 Mayor, if I MAY. This to me is 2786 01:28:34,895 --> 01:28:36,696 really interesting. Um, because 2787 01:28:36,696 --> 01:28:38,231 I feel like at the core of it, 2788 01:28:38,231 --> 01:28:40,433 um, our conversations have been 2789 01:28:40,433 --> 01:28:42,302 centered around safety. Um, and 2790 01:28:42,302 --> 01:28:45,472 so looking at the request of 2791 01:28:45,472 --> 01:28:47,907 planning and zoning to opt to 2792 01:28:47,907 --> 01:28:49,809 use bouncers, but if they have 2793 01:28:49,809 --> 01:28:49,977 to stop at the door, then I 2794 01:28:49,977 --> 01:28:51,212 don 2795 01:28:51,212 --> 01:28:52,579 t know that that achieves 2796 01:28:52,579 --> 01:28:53,880 the safety that we were looking 2797 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,816 for, for inside the 2798 01:28:55,816 --> 01:28:58,816 establishment and then out, but 2799 01:29:00,987 --> 01:29:02,189 then also, um, for the 2800 01:29:02,189 --> 01:29:03,189 establishments that are already 2801 01:29:03,189 --> 01:29:03,390 in business, this doesn 2802 01:29:03,390 --> 01:29:04,625 t 2803 01:29:04,625 --> 01:29:05,993 affect them. It 2804 01:29:05,993 --> 01:29:07,861 s not 2805 01:29:07,861 --> 01:29:09,463 retroactive. So this is going 2806 01:29:09,463 --> 01:29:10,663 forward. So you don 2807 01:29:10,663 --> 01:29:11,498 t want to 2808 01:29:11,498 --> 01:29:12,990 implement something that 2809 01:29:12,990 --> 01:29:13,567 s cost 2810 01:29:13,567 --> 01:29:13,767 prohibitive to a new business. 2811 01:29:13,767 --> 01:29:15,767 That 2812 01:29:16,136 --> 01:29:16,736 s, um, that 2813 01:29:16,736 --> 01:29:18,105 s starting 2814 01:29:18,105 --> 01:29:18,439 their business. Uh, it 2815 01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:18,605 s it 2816 01:29:18,605 --> 01:29:20,605 s 2817 01:29:21,641 --> 01:29:24,410 an interesting proposition. I 2818 01:29:24,678 --> 01:29:26,678 think, um. 2819 01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:31,218 Do you have a motion? 2820 01:29:31,218 --> 01:29:31,651 Oh. 2821 01:29:31,651 --> 01:29:32,619 You know, I don 2822 01:29:32,619 --> 01:29:35,190 t mind making a 2823 01:29:37,290 --> 01:29:38,910 motion. Um, gosh. 2824 01:29:38,910 --> 01:29:39,125 And, I mean, I don 2825 01:29:39,125 --> 01:29:41,125 t think this 2826 01:29:41,261 --> 01:29:41,528 is at least from my point of 2827 01:29:41,528 --> 01:29:43,630 view. I 2828 01:29:43,630 --> 01:29:45,198 m not, you know, 2829 01:29:45,198 --> 01:29:46,600 against safety. Um, around 2830 01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:47,801 these establishments, but I 2831 01:29:47,801 --> 01:29:49,770 just I just really think it 2832 01:29:49,770 --> 01:29:50,804 would be cost prohibitive and 2833 01:29:50,804 --> 01:29:52,720 kind of restrict what these 2834 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,541 businesses could do on a night 2835 01:29:54,541 --> 01:29:55,876 to night basis. Um, they really 2836 01:29:55,876 --> 01:29:56,777 have to be mindful of, you 2837 01:29:56,777 --> 01:30:00,130 know, what day is they decide 2838 01:30:00,130 --> 01:30:03,130 to provide amplified music past 2839 01:30:05,119 --> 01:30:05,752 11:00. Um, yeah. That 2840 01:30:05,752 --> 01:30:06,419 s my only 2841 01:30:06,419 --> 01:30:06,553 concern. 2842 01:30:06,553 --> 01:30:07,921 I 2843 01:30:07,921 --> 01:30:09,957 ll make a motion to approve 2844 01:30:09,957 --> 01:30:11,358 the text as tendered. And the 2845 01:30:11,358 --> 01:30:11,525 reason why is because I 2846 01:30:11,525 --> 01:30:13,126 ve 2847 01:30:13,126 --> 01:30:15,395 dealt with downtown for 40 2848 01:30:15,395 --> 01:30:15,529 years as a criminal lawyer, and 2849 01:30:15,529 --> 01:30:17,529 I 2850 01:30:18,365 --> 01:30:19,533 ve seen the carnage caused by 2851 01:30:19,533 --> 01:30:19,833 people in the bars who 2852 01:30:19,833 --> 01:30:21,802 ve 2853 01:30:21,802 --> 01:30:22,200 consumed way too much. They 2854 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:22,936 weren 2855 01:30:22,936 --> 01:30:24,905 t just drinking, they 2856 01:30:24,905 --> 01:30:26,373 were intoxicated and served by 2857 01:30:26,373 --> 01:30:27,774 bars. And I think if you talk 2858 01:30:27,774 --> 01:30:29,430 to the officers on the streets, 2859 01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:30,110 they will tell you that 2860 01:30:30,110 --> 01:30:31,444 oftentimes the people come out 2861 01:30:31,444 --> 01:30:32,779 of the bars are not just 2862 01:30:32,779 --> 01:30:34,581 drinking, they are completely 2863 01:30:34,581 --> 01:30:37,581 intoxicated and just drunk. And 2864 01:30:38,151 --> 01:30:40,755 today, uh, had to read, uh, 2865 01:30:40,755 --> 01:30:42,189 because of a case of a very 2866 01:30:42,189 --> 01:30:44,624 serious injury that occurred in 2867 01:30:44,624 --> 01:30:47,160 a bar. And no bouncers were 2868 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:48,762 around, and they MAY have 2869 01:30:48,762 --> 01:30:50,163 probably prevented it had they 2870 01:30:50,163 --> 01:30:51,498 been. And when you use the word 2871 01:30:51,498 --> 01:30:53,100 bouncer, what does that really 2872 01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:54,267 mean? It means you go hire a 2873 01:30:54,267 --> 01:30:55,802 college kid to come in and 2874 01:30:55,802 --> 01:30:57,802 provide security, who 2875 01:30:57,971 --> 01:30:59,273 oftentimes is a workout 2876 01:30:59,273 --> 01:31:00,841 fanatic, who wants to go bully 2877 01:31:00,841 --> 01:31:01,410 people and use that power. 2878 01:31:01,410 --> 01:31:02,242 That 2879 01:31:02,242 --> 01:31:04,111 s what my experience has 2880 01:31:04,111 --> 01:31:05,445 been. All those watching on tv. 2881 01:31:05,445 --> 01:31:06,313 You MAY have harsh words, but 2882 01:31:06,313 --> 01:31:06,914 you can have all the harsh 2883 01:31:06,914 --> 01:31:08,150 words you want. It 2884 01:31:08,150 --> 01:31:08,315 s the truth, 2885 01:31:08,315 --> 01:31:10,315 and I 2886 01:31:10,551 --> 01:31:11,385 ve seen it for 40 years. 2887 01:31:11,385 --> 01:31:12,552 Mm. So I don 2888 01:31:12,552 --> 01:31:13,320 t want some 20 2889 01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:13,954 year old kid. I 2890 01:31:13,954 --> 01:31:15,220 m not trying to 2891 01:31:15,220 --> 01:31:16,557 crack on a 20 year old 2892 01:31:16,557 --> 01:31:17,891 providing security when 2893 01:31:17,891 --> 01:31:18,759 something goes south, because 2894 01:31:18,759 --> 01:31:19,693 people have had too much 2895 01:31:19,693 --> 01:31:19,893 alcohol to drink, because 2896 01:31:19,893 --> 01:31:20,661 they 2897 01:31:20,661 --> 01:31:21,928 ve been in the bar for a 2898 01:31:21,928 --> 01:31:22,229 while. And so if you 2899 01:31:22,229 --> 01:31:24,229 ve got 2900 01:31:24,264 --> 01:31:25,566 some professional security 2901 01:31:25,566 --> 01:31:25,933 level of it, then you 2902 01:31:25,933 --> 01:31:27,167 ve got 2903 01:31:27,167 --> 01:31:28,469 better training about how to 2904 01:31:28,469 --> 01:31:29,469 de-escalate, because what I 2905 01:31:29,469 --> 01:31:30,870 find in the past is what 2906 01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:32,606 bouncers do. The first thing 2907 01:31:32,606 --> 01:31:34,208 they want to do is to strike. 2908 01:31:34,208 --> 01:31:34,341 And I represented bars who 2909 01:31:34,341 --> 01:31:35,710 ve 2910 01:31:35,710 --> 01:31:37,144 been sued because their 2911 01:31:37,144 --> 01:31:37,444 bouncers have struck an even 2912 01:31:37,444 --> 01:31:38,279 though they 2913 01:31:38,279 --> 01:31:38,445 ve been trained. 2914 01:31:38,445 --> 01:31:40,445 Don 2915 01:31:40,581 --> 01:31:42,416 t strike. People grapple 2916 01:31:42,416 --> 01:31:42,549 and escort. But that doesn 2917 01:31:42,549 --> 01:31:44,451 t 2918 01:31:44,451 --> 01:31:45,118 say so for for for that 2919 01:31:45,118 --> 01:31:45,652 experience. That 2920 01:31:45,652 --> 01:31:45,986 s why I do 2921 01:31:45,986 --> 01:31:46,453 this. And it 2922 01:31:46,453 --> 01:31:48,220 s not going to 2923 01:31:48,220 --> 01:31:48,722 affect any of our bars that are 2924 01:31:48,722 --> 01:31:48,855 currently in because they 2925 01:31:48,855 --> 01:31:49,723 re 2926 01:31:49,723 --> 01:31:49,924 grandfathered in. So you 2927 01:31:49,924 --> 01:31:51,825 re 2928 01:31:51,825 --> 01:31:52,225 lucky. But going forward, I 2929 01:31:52,225 --> 01:31:52,726 think if you 2930 01:31:52,726 --> 01:31:54,261 re going to be in 2931 01:31:54,261 --> 01:31:56,530 the business of serving alcohol 2932 01:31:56,530 --> 01:31:57,765 late at night and people tend 2933 01:31:57,765 --> 01:31:58,499 to imbibe because how do you 2934 01:31:58,499 --> 01:31:58,999 get drunk if you 2935 01:31:58,999 --> 01:31:59,233 re in the bar, 2936 01:31:59,233 --> 01:32:00,660 if they 2937 01:32:00,660 --> 01:32:01,100 re not serving you when 2938 01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:01,301 they probably shouldn 2939 01:32:01,301 --> 01:32:02,502 t be 2940 01:32:02,502 --> 01:32:02,769 serving you? Uh, they 2941 01:32:02,769 --> 01:32:03,971 re 2942 01:32:03,971 --> 01:32:05,305 serving you too much alcohol. 2943 01:32:05,305 --> 01:32:06,840 And then when you get too much 2944 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:07,941 alcohol, people bounce into 2945 01:32:07,941 --> 01:32:08,341 each other or see somebody, 2946 01:32:08,341 --> 01:32:09,176 girl. And there 2947 01:32:09,176 --> 01:32:10,845 s comments back 2948 01:32:10,845 --> 01:32:11,512 and forth and you and you got 2949 01:32:11,512 --> 01:32:12,379 to fight. And then when 2950 01:32:12,379 --> 01:32:12,946 somebody gets hit, it 2951 01:32:12,946 --> 01:32:14,140 s not the 2952 01:32:14,140 --> 01:32:14,148 strike that hurts them. It 2953 01:32:14,148 --> 01:32:15,683 s 2954 01:32:15,683 --> 01:32:16,950 when they fall on the concrete 2955 01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:18,285 and hit their head and get a 2956 01:32:18,285 --> 01:32:19,286 brain bleed and get brain 2957 01:32:19,286 --> 01:32:20,487 damage. And I 2958 01:32:20,487 --> 01:32:22,220 ve seen hundreds 2959 01:32:22,220 --> 01:32:22,456 of cases like that in 40 years. 2960 01:32:22,456 --> 01:32:23,623 So I 2961 01:32:23,623 --> 01:32:26,894 m a little tough on this. 2962 01:32:26,894 --> 01:32:27,327 I know. Um, but again, a 2963 01:32:27,327 --> 01:32:28,620 balance. There 2964 01:32:28,620 --> 01:32:29,497 s nothing more 2965 01:32:29,497 --> 01:32:29,696 that I see as a college kid 2966 01:32:29,696 --> 01:32:30,330 that 2967 01:32:30,330 --> 01:32:33,330 s just working on their 2968 01:32:33,330 --> 01:32:34,100 part time for 13, $14 an hour. 2969 01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:36,103 So what level of 2970 01:32:36,103 --> 01:32:37,738 professionalism do you get? You 2971 01:32:37,738 --> 01:32:37,904 get what you pay for. So that 2972 01:32:37,904 --> 01:32:39,206 s 2973 01:32:39,206 --> 01:32:41,108 why I make the motion that we 2974 01:32:41,108 --> 01:32:44,478 should adopt it as tendered and 2975 01:32:44,478 --> 01:32:45,479 without the, uh, the bouncers 2976 01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:45,980 as a substitute. Because I just 2977 01:32:45,980 --> 01:32:46,547 think what you 2978 01:32:46,547 --> 01:32:48,281 re really saying 2979 01:32:48,281 --> 01:32:48,449 is let us hire somebody cheap 2980 01:32:48,449 --> 01:32:49,416 who 2981 01:32:49,416 --> 01:32:50,751 s a college kid. And 2982 01:32:50,751 --> 01:32:52,751 usually professional security 2983 01:32:52,786 --> 01:32:54,188 has liability in place on 2984 01:32:54,188 --> 01:32:55,289 insurance. So if something does 2985 01:32:55,289 --> 01:32:55,656 go south, you 2986 01:32:55,656 --> 01:32:57,191 ve got a 2987 01:32:57,191 --> 01:32:58,425 liability insurance policy that 2988 01:32:58,425 --> 01:33:00,761 can that somebody can go after. 2989 01:33:00,761 --> 01:33:02,262 If this, uh, security personnel 2990 01:33:02,262 --> 01:33:02,562 went too far. And again, you 2991 01:33:02,562 --> 01:33:03,564 see it, I 2992 01:33:03,564 --> 01:33:05,265 ve seen it time and 2993 01:33:05,265 --> 01:33:07,201 time again. Multiple bars have 2994 01:33:07,201 --> 01:33:07,601 been sued down, down over. 2995 01:33:07,601 --> 01:33:08,669 So you 2996 01:33:08,669 --> 01:33:09,236 re making a motion for 2997 01:33:09,236 --> 01:33:09,636 the staff sergeant? 2998 01:33:09,636 --> 01:33:10,700 Yeah. The staff 2999 01:33:10,700 --> 01:33:11,438 s 3000 01:33:11,438 --> 01:33:12,205 recommendation that tracking 3001 01:33:12,205 --> 01:33:13,974 that language. 3002 01:33:13,974 --> 01:33:14,107 Does anybody got a second? 3003 01:33:14,107 --> 01:33:15,342 I 3004 01:33:15,342 --> 01:33:16,376 ll second the motion. 3005 01:33:16,376 --> 01:33:18,376 All right. 3006 01:33:20,547 --> 01:33:22,947 Any other discussion? Speak 3007 01:33:24,485 --> 01:33:25,920 now. Forever. Hold your peace. 3008 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:26,820 All right. Motion been made by 3009 01:33:26,820 --> 01:33:27,788 Councilmember Robinson and 3010 01:33:27,788 --> 01:33:28,622 second by Councilmember Willis. 3011 01:33:28,622 --> 01:33:29,856 All those in favor say aye. 3012 01:33:29,856 --> 01:33:31,258 Aye, aye. Those opposed say 3013 01:33:31,258 --> 01:33:33,126 nay. 3014 01:33:33,126 --> 01:33:33,828 Motion passes, five zero. 3015 01:33:33,828 --> 01:33:34,962 Oh. 3016 01:33:34,962 --> 01:33:35,629 All right. That was it for the 3017 01:33:35,629 --> 01:33:36,300 public hearings. We 3018 01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:37,640 ll move on 3019 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:37,865 to other items of business 3020 01:33:37,865 --> 01:33:38,832 number 11. 3021 01:33:38,832 --> 01:33:41,680 All right. Thank you, mayor. 3022 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:42,202 Item number 11, resolution 3023 01:33:42,202 --> 01:33:43,370 approving an interlocal 3024 01:33:43,370 --> 01:33:45,720 agreement with Pitt County. 3025 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:46,730 Pitt Area Transit System 3026 01:33:46,730 --> 01:33:47,407 relating to providing 3027 01:33:47,407 --> 01:33:49,407 paratransit transportation 3028 01:33:49,510 --> 01:33:50,410 services within the territorial 3029 01:33:50,410 --> 01:33:51,111 jurisdiction of the City of 3030 01:33:51,111 --> 01:33:51,745 Greenville. I 3031 01:33:51,745 --> 01:33:52,747 ll call forward 3032 01:33:52,747 --> 01:33:55,147 our transit manager with 3033 01:33:55,783 --> 01:33:57,551 Davidson for short presentation. 3034 01:33:57,551 --> 01:33:59,386 Thank you. Good evening. Good 3035 01:33:59,386 --> 01:34:00,854 evening, good evening. Evening. 3036 01:34:00,854 --> 01:34:01,455 I look forward to your short 3037 01:34:01,455 --> 01:34:02,456 presentation. 3038 01:34:02,456 --> 01:34:02,957 A yes, sir, I 3039 01:34:02,957 --> 01:34:05,325 m going to give 3040 01:34:05,325 --> 01:34:07,527 you a brief update on where we 3041 01:34:07,527 --> 01:34:09,429 are with our Ada paratransit 3042 01:34:09,429 --> 01:34:10,631 service. So just a reminder, 3043 01:34:10,631 --> 01:34:11,665 Ada paratransit is the 3044 01:34:11,665 --> 01:34:12,899 mandatory point to point 3045 01:34:12,899 --> 01:34:14,135 transportation that we have to 3046 01:34:14,135 --> 01:34:16,135 provide for qualifying 3047 01:34:16,870 --> 01:34:17,938 customers with disabilities in 3048 01:34:17,938 --> 01:34:19,306 which a disability affects 3049 01:34:19,306 --> 01:34:22,306 their access to fixed route 3050 01:34:22,777 --> 01:34:23,377 bus. Um, this is curb. Curb. 3051 01:34:23,377 --> 01:34:25,377 And it 3052 01:34:25,446 --> 01:34:27,447 s, uh, reimbursed at 80% 3053 01:34:27,447 --> 01:34:29,847 of operating costs, 85% of 3054 01:34:30,784 --> 01:34:32,252 capital cost. Um, pleased to 3055 01:34:32,252 --> 01:34:34,355 announce, since we were here 3056 01:34:34,355 --> 01:34:35,789 talking about paratransit last, 3057 01:34:35,789 --> 01:34:37,358 that, uh, the city of 3058 01:34:37,358 --> 01:34:40,260 Greenville and Pitt County were 3059 01:34:40,260 --> 01:34:41,995 selected to receive $200,000 3060 01:34:41,995 --> 01:34:43,797 each as part of a coordinated 3061 01:34:43,797 --> 01:34:46,320 public transportation grant to 3062 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:47,468 continue our partnership effort 3063 01:34:47,468 --> 01:34:49,868 to provide the transportation 3064 01:34:49,870 --> 01:34:51,872 service. Um, great will use the 3065 01:34:51,872 --> 01:34:54,508 funds to pay for trips that the 3066 01:34:54,508 --> 01:34:56,209 county will provide, and pets 3067 01:34:56,209 --> 01:34:58,609 will purchase vehicles. I 3068 01:34:59,713 --> 01:35:01,415 believe with their funds. So we 3069 01:35:01,415 --> 01:35:04,218 have been able to negotiate a 3070 01:35:04,218 --> 01:35:06,618 renewed partnership for fy 3071 01:35:07,855 --> 01:35:10,191 2627. Uh, pets went through a 3072 01:35:10,191 --> 01:35:12,693 fully allocated cost model, uh, 3073 01:35:12,693 --> 01:35:14,362 exercise with ncdot staff to 3074 01:35:14,362 --> 01:35:16,329 set their trip rate so their 3075 01:35:16,329 --> 01:35:20,200 new trip rate at a break even 3076 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:21,968 point is $27 per trip. Um, the 3077 01:35:21,968 --> 01:35:22,203 city is still on track. We 3078 01:35:22,203 --> 01:35:24,203 re 3079 01:35:24,438 --> 01:35:26,473 scheduled to begin, uh, 3080 01:35:26,473 --> 01:35:28,873 partial, uh, Ada paratransit 3081 01:35:28,876 --> 01:35:31,110 service that we will provide, 3082 01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:32,680 uh, in OCTOBER. Uh, the service 3083 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,781 is is going to be provided with 3084 01:35:34,781 --> 01:35:36,650 four, four vans. Three, uh, 3085 01:35:36,650 --> 01:35:38,719 which will be Ada accessible. 3086 01:35:38,719 --> 01:35:38,953 One is a minivan. Uh, we 3087 01:35:38,953 --> 01:35:40,788 re in 3088 01:35:40,788 --> 01:35:42,423 the process of creating the new 3089 01:35:42,423 --> 01:35:45,590 positions, working with hr, uh, 3090 01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:46,827 to get that finalized. Uh, we 3091 01:35:46,827 --> 01:35:47,270 have trip booking software 3092 01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:48,940 that 3093 01:35:48,940 --> 01:35:50,797 s going to manage all of 3094 01:35:50,797 --> 01:35:52,800 the, uh, clients bookings, um, 3095 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,800 customers can book via mobile 3096 01:35:56,370 --> 01:35:57,838 app or by calling our office a 3097 01:35:57,838 --> 01:35:59,600 picture of what, what the 3098 01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:00,410 vehicles will look like that 3099 01:36:00,410 --> 01:36:01,876 will provide the service that 3100 01:36:01,876 --> 01:36:03,744 we have. Minivan. And then the 3101 01:36:03,744 --> 01:36:05,312 high roof, uh, vans with a 3102 01:36:05,312 --> 01:36:08,912 transit style door. It has an 3103 01:36:09,750 --> 01:36:11,752 Ada lift in the back. So great. 3104 01:36:11,752 --> 01:36:13,987 Will be the primary provider 3105 01:36:13,987 --> 01:36:15,990 once we began service, uh, in 3106 01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:16,323 in OCTOBER. Uh, like I said, 3107 01:36:16,323 --> 01:36:17,290 great. We 3108 01:36:17,290 --> 01:36:17,458 ll run four vans. 3109 01:36:17,458 --> 01:36:19,458 Pat 3110 01:36:20,561 --> 01:36:21,329 s will provide, uh, 2 to 3, 3111 01:36:21,329 --> 01:36:22,363 uh, and we 3112 01:36:22,363 --> 01:36:24,363 re still talking 3113 01:36:25,332 --> 01:36:27,702 about about 2250 rides per 3114 01:36:27,702 --> 01:36:29,737 month, right. For this program, 3115 01:36:29,737 --> 01:36:32,339 the hours of operation. I know 3116 01:36:32,339 --> 01:36:34,174 this was a point, uh, we spoke 3117 01:36:34,174 --> 01:36:35,476 about back in FEBRUARY. We were 3118 01:36:35,476 --> 01:36:37,344 able to go back and negotiate 3119 01:36:37,344 --> 01:36:39,213 with, with pets that they will 3120 01:36:39,213 --> 01:36:41,715 continue to provide the trips 3121 01:36:41,715 --> 01:36:43,684 from 4 A.M. To 6 A.M., mainly 3122 01:36:43,684 --> 01:36:45,119 dialysis patients. Uh, great. 3123 01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:47,554 And pets will provide service 3124 01:36:47,554 --> 01:36:48,956 from 6 to 6 and then great will 3125 01:36:48,956 --> 01:36:51,492 provide the service from six 3126 01:36:51,492 --> 01:36:53,427 until 830. Uh, on weekdays. 3127 01:36:53,427 --> 01:36:55,462 Saturdays, same thing. Pets 3128 01:36:55,462 --> 01:36:57,932 will provide the early morning, 3129 01:36:57,932 --> 01:37:00,167 4 to 9. Uh, we have different 3130 01:37:00,167 --> 01:37:01,302 hours on Saturday, so the hours 3131 01:37:01,302 --> 01:37:04,302 will match the service that 3132 01:37:04,371 --> 01:37:06,273 great provides. 9 to 430 great. 3133 01:37:06,273 --> 01:37:08,442 And pets? Pets if needed. And 3134 01:37:08,442 --> 01:37:11,312 then pets will do 430 to 6 on 3135 01:37:11,312 --> 01:37:14,147 Saturday. All right. We will 3136 01:37:14,147 --> 01:37:15,949 notify customers, uh, of the 3137 01:37:15,949 --> 01:37:17,251 change. That rate will be the 3138 01:37:17,251 --> 01:37:18,819 primary provider. Pets will be 3139 01:37:18,819 --> 01:37:21,219 the secondary provider, uh, 3140 01:37:21,221 --> 01:37:23,123 through electronic mail, usps, 3141 01:37:23,123 --> 01:37:24,492 uh, starting in SEPTEMBER, uh, 3142 01:37:24,492 --> 01:37:26,590 all existing customers data 3143 01:37:26,590 --> 01:37:27,528 will be exported into our new 3144 01:37:27,528 --> 01:37:29,363 system. Uh, eligible 3145 01:37:29,363 --> 01:37:31,363 eligibility requirements will 3146 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,236 not change. All right. Um, 3147 01:37:35,236 --> 01:37:37,636 request that council would 3148 01:37:38,772 --> 01:37:40,407 approve the fy 2627 interlocal 3149 01:37:40,407 --> 01:37:42,343 agreement with Pitt County. 3150 01:37:42,343 --> 01:37:44,743 All right, any questions? 3151 01:37:44,744 --> 01:37:46,580 i did have a question. Did I 3152 01:37:46,580 --> 01:37:49,580 understand you correctly to say 3153 01:37:50,184 --> 01:37:53,254 that the new assessed cost is 3154 01:37:53,254 --> 01:37:55,654 $27 per ride? Previously, it 3155 01:37:55,956 --> 01:37:58,526 was $9. It was 18. It was 18. 3156 01:37:58,526 --> 01:37:59,693 So $9 both ways. It was or was 3157 01:37:59,693 --> 01:38:00,561 it $18? One way. 3158 01:38:00,561 --> 01:38:02,961 , each way, one way. 3159 01:38:05,650 --> 01:38:05,799 And so the increase to $27. Now 3160 01:38:05,799 --> 01:38:06,667 one way. 3161 01:38:06,667 --> 01:38:08,667 Correct. 3162 01:38:08,668 --> 01:38:09,737 Um, and there 3163 01:38:09,737 --> 01:38:11,738 s nothing that is 3164 01:38:11,738 --> 01:38:15,338 there anything that we can do 3165 01:38:16,777 --> 01:38:18,212 to, um, affect that cost for 3166 01:38:18,212 --> 01:38:20,212 citizens. 3167 01:38:20,214 --> 01:38:20,548 So the 27 the citizen won 3168 01:38:20,548 --> 01:38:21,480 t pay 3169 01:38:21,480 --> 01:38:22,416 that. So that 3170 01:38:22,416 --> 01:38:24,170 s the cost that 3171 01:38:24,170 --> 01:38:24,918 the city will pay the county 3172 01:38:24,918 --> 01:38:26,190 per trip. 3173 01:38:26,190 --> 01:38:27,988 City pays the county patrol. 3174 01:38:27,988 --> 01:38:29,957 Okay. And so then for the 3175 01:38:29,957 --> 01:38:30,791 actual rider, what does that 3176 01:38:30,791 --> 01:38:33,327 look like with the actual. 3177 01:38:33,327 --> 01:38:35,897 Rider today? That is still 3178 01:38:35,897 --> 01:38:37,130 free? When when the city begins 3179 01:38:37,130 --> 01:38:37,298 charging a fair and that 3180 01:38:37,298 --> 01:38:39,990 s 3181 01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:41,135 slated for at some point in 3182 01:38:41,135 --> 01:38:42,570 OCTOBER. Okay. Then what the 3183 01:38:42,570 --> 01:38:44,970 federal government allows is 3184 01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,641 twice the normal fare. So if we 3185 01:38:47,641 --> 01:38:49,276 were charging $1 for a bus 3186 01:38:49,276 --> 01:38:50,577 fare, then the fare for a pet 3187 01:38:50,577 --> 01:38:52,212 ride would be $2. 3188 01:38:52,212 --> 01:38:52,346 It would be $2. Okay, so I 3189 01:38:52,346 --> 01:38:54,140 m 3190 01:38:54,140 --> 01:38:54,715 not thinking about the cost for 3191 01:38:54,715 --> 01:38:56,715 a citizen. That 3192 01:38:57,751 --> 01:38:58,986 s an outside of 3193 01:38:58,986 --> 01:39:01,386 a particular program or 3194 01:39:01,455 --> 01:39:03,891 whatnot. I was told that it was 3195 01:39:03,891 --> 01:39:06,494 $9 per trip. I think that. 3196 01:39:06,494 --> 01:39:08,962 Cost that a citizen of county 3197 01:39:08,962 --> 01:39:10,464 pays to ride pets. Versus the 3198 01:39:10,464 --> 01:39:12,733 city. They were riding it as a 3199 01:39:12,733 --> 01:39:15,503 county. As a county citizen, 3200 01:39:15,503 --> 01:39:16,937 riding the county system, not a 3201 01:39:16,937 --> 01:39:19,337 Greenville resident using the 3202 01:39:19,607 --> 01:39:20,974 Ada paratransit system. Because 3203 01:39:20,974 --> 01:39:22,677 we work with the county to 3204 01:39:22,677 --> 01:39:24,545 provide our Ada paratransit 3205 01:39:24,545 --> 01:39:26,980 system within the city limits. 3206 01:39:26,980 --> 01:39:28,820 Right. Okay, okay. So within 3207 01:39:28,820 --> 01:39:29,950 the city limits, it 3208 01:39:29,950 --> 01:39:30,117 s free. 3209 01:39:30,117 --> 01:39:32,117 It 3210 01:39:32,953 --> 01:39:35,789 s it is what you did. 3211 01:39:35,789 --> 01:39:35,990 It went from $27 to free. Just 3212 01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:36,423 like. 3213 01:39:36,423 --> 01:39:38,423 Just like that. 3214 01:39:38,626 --> 01:39:40,461 Yeah. In the does not pay. A 3215 01:39:40,461 --> 01:39:40,794 customer does not pay today 3216 01:39:40,794 --> 01:39:42,463 okay. 3217 01:39:42,463 --> 01:39:43,263 That is what we are paying. 3218 01:39:43,263 --> 01:39:43,663 We pay the county. 3219 01:39:43,663 --> 01:39:45,663 The county. 3220 01:39:45,833 --> 01:39:46,901 We will pay the county 27 per 3221 01:39:46,901 --> 01:39:48,436 trip that they provide. 3222 01:39:48,436 --> 01:39:50,103 Which previously was 18. 3223 01:39:50,103 --> 01:39:50,737 Correct? Okay, I got it now. 3224 01:39:50,737 --> 01:39:51,972 Okay. 3225 01:39:51,972 --> 01:39:53,400 All right. 3226 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:53,874 Just like that. You got. 3227 01:39:53,874 --> 01:39:55,275 It free. 3228 01:39:55,275 --> 01:39:56,743 All you gotta do is ask. 3229 01:39:56,743 --> 01:39:57,611 I think I got an understanding. 3230 01:39:57,611 --> 01:39:59,460 Thank you. 3231 01:39:59,460 --> 01:39:59,580 All right. Any other questions? 3232 01:39:59,580 --> 01:40:00,214 Comments? 3233 01:40:00,214 --> 01:40:01,150 No. I do. 3234 01:40:01,150 --> 01:40:01,648 Want to say, um, I 3235 01:40:01,648 --> 01:40:02,783 m so 3236 01:40:02,783 --> 01:40:02,917 grateful and thankful that 3237 01:40:02,917 --> 01:40:04,452 y 3238 01:40:04,452 --> 01:40:06,253 all did make it. Um, the time 3239 01:40:06,253 --> 01:40:07,755 change so that we can make sure 3240 01:40:07,755 --> 01:40:09,590 that all of our citizens, um, 3241 01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:11,259 can get to any appointments 3242 01:40:11,259 --> 01:40:13,270 they MAY need to be. And with 3243 01:40:13,270 --> 01:40:14,562 that, I move that we approve. 3244 01:40:14,562 --> 01:40:14,695 Um, and I second that you 3245 01:40:14,695 --> 01:40:16,695 re 3246 01:40:17,598 --> 01:40:20,300 going with, um, being specific 3247 01:40:20,300 --> 01:40:22,670 about those citizens that are 3248 01:40:22,670 --> 01:40:23,904 impacted by, um, dialysis and 3249 01:40:23,904 --> 01:40:25,373 need to get to their 3250 01:40:25,373 --> 01:40:25,572 appointments. Yes. So we 3251 01:40:25,572 --> 01:40:26,474 re 3252 01:40:26,474 --> 01:40:26,774 greatly appreciative. 3253 01:40:26,774 --> 01:40:27,808 Of that. 3254 01:40:27,808 --> 01:40:28,676 Thank you. So we second in the 3255 01:40:28,676 --> 01:40:29,242 motion or second in the 3256 01:40:29,242 --> 01:40:29,743 comment.. 3257 01:40:29,743 --> 01:40:30,777 Second and. 3258 01:40:30,777 --> 01:40:32,580 Both awesome. 3259 01:40:32,580 --> 01:40:33,948 I like that. All right. Motion 3260 01:40:33,948 --> 01:40:35,182 been made by Councilmember 3261 01:40:35,182 --> 01:40:36,450 Jones. Second by uh, Mayor Pro 3262 01:40:36,450 --> 01:40:37,318 Tem Forman any other 3263 01:40:37,318 --> 01:40:39,860 discussion? 3264 01:40:39,860 --> 01:40:40,821 I did want to ask mayor if we 3265 01:40:40,821 --> 01:40:43,590 could get an update at our 3266 01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:46,427 next, um, workshop about the 3267 01:40:46,427 --> 01:40:47,795 rollout of the shelters. Um, I 3268 01:40:47,795 --> 01:40:49,663 would love to be able, for all 3269 01:40:49,663 --> 01:40:51,232 of us to know together where we 3270 01:40:51,232 --> 01:40:52,933 are with that rollout and how 3271 01:40:52,933 --> 01:40:53,967 many more we have to go. Um, 3272 01:40:53,967 --> 01:40:54,201 just to get some clarity. 3273 01:40:54,201 --> 01:40:54,368 On that. 3274 01:40:54,368 --> 01:40:56,700 We 3275 01:40:56,700 --> 01:40:57,771 ll do. Thank you. 3276 01:40:57,771 --> 01:40:58,673 All right. Any other 3277 01:40:58,673 --> 01:40:59,573 discussion. 3278 01:40:59,573 --> 01:40:59,807 When you say shelter, don 3279 01:40:59,807 --> 01:41:01,309 t 3280 01:41:01,309 --> 01:41:02,343 offer the benches. 3281 01:41:02,343 --> 01:41:03,777 That for. 3282 01:41:03,777 --> 01:41:05,777 Sure. 3283 01:41:06,747 --> 01:41:07,481 And the bars that need to be 3284 01:41:07,481 --> 01:41:08,315 removed. 3285 01:41:08,315 --> 01:41:09,160 We have we 3286 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:10,417 ve already started 3287 01:41:10,417 --> 01:41:11,318 removing those bars. Right. 3288 01:41:11,318 --> 01:41:11,685 Yes, yes, yes. 3289 01:41:11,685 --> 01:41:12,386 Okay. 3290 01:41:12,386 --> 01:41:12,887 Thank you. 3291 01:41:12,887 --> 01:41:14,321 I want. 3292 01:41:14,321 --> 01:41:14,655 Welcome those. And I 3293 01:41:14,655 --> 01:41:16,156 ve only 3294 01:41:16,156 --> 01:41:17,658 seen a couple that are left. 3295 01:41:17,658 --> 01:41:19,126 We put we put a few in the 3296 01:41:19,126 --> 01:41:20,610 middle of our chairs. 3297 01:41:20,610 --> 01:41:22,897 At one. This time we were 3298 01:41:22,897 --> 01:41:25,432 walking. All right. Any other 3299 01:41:25,432 --> 01:41:26,967 discussion? All those in favor 3300 01:41:26,967 --> 01:41:27,567 say aye. Aye. Those opposed say 3301 01:41:27,567 --> 01:41:29,370 nay. 3302 01:41:29,370 --> 01:41:29,536 Motion passes five zero. 3303 01:41:29,536 --> 01:41:31,536 Let 3304 01:41:32,105 --> 01:41:34,575 s move on to item number 3305 01:41:34,575 --> 01:41:36,577 12. Number 12. Final real item. 3306 01:41:36,577 --> 01:41:37,511 Approval to purchase 188 3307 01:41:37,511 --> 01:41:38,579 vehicle for the City of 3308 01:41:38,579 --> 01:41:39,814 Greenville and the Transit 3309 01:41:39,814 --> 01:41:41,248 Division. Turn it back over to 3310 01:41:41,248 --> 01:41:43,184 MR. Davidson. 3311 01:41:43,184 --> 01:41:46,184 Thank you. All right. Request 3312 01:41:46,286 --> 01:41:47,621 to purchase 188 paratransit 3313 01:41:47,621 --> 01:41:49,220 van. So this would be a van 3314 01:41:49,220 --> 01:41:50,324 matching the hot top van that 3315 01:41:50,324 --> 01:41:52,930 we saw. Council previously 3316 01:41:52,930 --> 01:41:53,327 approved the purchase of three 3317 01:41:53,327 --> 01:41:55,329 back in FEBRUARY. So this would 3318 01:41:55,329 --> 01:41:58,929 be adding, uh, another Ada van. 3319 01:42:00,340 --> 01:42:03,340 So cost of that van, 3320 01:42:05,206 --> 01:42:07,206 $123,371.76. Funding will come 3321 01:42:08,776 --> 01:42:11,512 from 85% from our fta funding, 3322 01:42:11,512 --> 01:42:11,879 15% from general fund. That 3323 01:42:11,879 --> 01:42:13,314 s 3324 01:42:13,314 --> 01:42:15,480 what the van will look like. 3325 01:42:15,480 --> 01:42:16,717 Um, we request that council 3326 01:42:16,717 --> 01:42:18,552 approve the purchase of one Ada 3327 01:42:18,552 --> 01:42:20,552 accessible paratransit van 3328 01:42:20,654 --> 01:42:23,654 using fta and general funds. 3329 01:42:23,690 --> 01:42:24,458 All right. Any questions? 3330 01:42:24,458 --> 01:42:24,592 Motions. 3331 01:42:24,592 --> 01:42:25,590 I 3332 01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:26,227 ll move. 3333 01:42:26,227 --> 01:42:28,620 All right. Most of you MAY, but 3334 01:42:28,620 --> 01:42:28,962 Council Jones, second by 3335 01:42:28,962 --> 01:42:30,962 Councilmember Robison. Any 3336 01:42:30,965 --> 01:42:32,200 other discussion? All those in 3337 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,100 favor say aye. Aye, aye. Those 3338 01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:34,368 opposed say nay. 3339 01:42:34,368 --> 01:42:35,690 Motion passes five zero. 3340 01:42:35,690 --> 01:42:35,570 Now what? Everybody 3341 01:42:35,570 --> 01:42:36,971 s been 3342 01:42:36,971 --> 01:42:38,672 waiting for. Everybody in the 3343 01:42:38,672 --> 01:42:39,406 audience has been waiting for 3344 01:42:39,406 --> 01:42:40,307 the city manager 3345 01:42:40,307 --> 01:42:41,576 s report. 3346 01:42:41,576 --> 01:42:42,776 Uh, you know, it was going to 3347 01:42:42,776 --> 01:42:44,145 be a long one tonight, but I 3348 01:42:44,145 --> 01:42:47,181 will make it quick. I just want 3349 01:42:47,181 --> 01:42:47,748 to wish my wife a happy 3350 01:42:47,748 --> 01:42:48,215 anniversary. We 3351 01:42:48,215 --> 01:42:50,215 ll be 3352 01:42:50,351 --> 01:42:52,119 celebrating our 34th wedding 3353 01:42:52,119 --> 01:42:52,286 anniversary on Sunday, and I 3354 01:42:52,286 --> 01:42:53,387 can 3355 01:42:53,387 --> 01:42:55,623 t wait to have a nice, 3356 01:42:55,623 --> 01:42:57,592 quiet meal together at Taco 3357 01:42:57,592 --> 01:42:59,427 Bell. Yes. 3358 01:42:59,427 --> 01:43:02,427 Hey, has anybody nominated her 3359 01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:02,963 as a saint yet? Saint Pam. 3360 01:43:02,963 --> 01:43:03,697 Saint. 3361 01:43:03,697 --> 01:43:05,697 Pam. 3362 01:43:05,733 --> 01:43:06,601 34 years. Yeah. Make some else. 3363 01:43:06,601 --> 01:43:08,469 Yeah. 3364 01:43:08,469 --> 01:43:09,690 Oh, man. 3365 01:43:09,690 --> 01:43:10,103 Holy cow. 3366 01:43:10,103 --> 01:43:10,271 She likes punishment, doesn 3367 01:43:10,271 --> 01:43:10,871 t 3368 01:43:10,871 --> 01:43:12,373 she? 3369 01:43:12,373 --> 01:43:13,140 Yes. We 3370 01:43:13,140 --> 01:43:15,540 ll be enjoying our 3371 01:43:15,977 --> 01:43:16,677 nacho Bell Grande. Uh, Sunday 3372 01:43:16,677 --> 01:43:16,877 evening. 3373 01:43:16,877 --> 01:43:17,211 What 3374 01:43:17,211 --> 01:43:17,878 s up? What 3375 01:43:17,878 --> 01:43:18,579 s the drink 3376 01:43:18,579 --> 01:43:18,712 that they have? Like they 3377 01:43:18,712 --> 01:43:19,647 ve 3378 01:43:19,647 --> 01:43:21,115 had like an orange drink or 3379 01:43:21,115 --> 01:43:23,500 something. Baja blast or 3380 01:43:23,500 --> 01:43:24,251 something. Get her a hey, get 3381 01:43:24,251 --> 01:43:24,485 her a bar blast to go with 3382 01:43:24,485 --> 01:43:26,485 that.. 3383 01:43:28,656 --> 01:43:30,240 Free refills. That 3384 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:30,324 s all I got, 3385 01:43:30,324 --> 01:43:30,491 man. 3386 01:43:30,491 --> 01:43:31,792 We 3387 01:43:31,792 --> 01:43:33,394 re going south quick. All 3388 01:43:33,394 --> 01:43:33,627 right, our city city attorney 3389 01:43:33,627 --> 01:43:34,562 s 3390 01:43:34,562 --> 01:43:35,730 report quickly. 3391 01:43:35,730 --> 01:43:37,531 Mayor and council, shout out to 3392 01:43:37,531 --> 01:43:39,400 MR. Scott Dixon. Uh, he was 3393 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,135 reappointed to serve on the 3394 01:43:41,135 --> 01:43:43,170 North Carolina League of 3395 01:43:43,170 --> 01:43:44,705 Municipalities. Uh, Legislative 3396 01:43:44,705 --> 01:43:45,840 Policy Committee. So shout out 3397 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:46,907 to Scott for that. 3398 01:43:46,907 --> 01:43:48,907 Congratulations. 3399 01:43:50,144 --> 01:43:52,144 Congratulations, Scott. 3400 01:43:52,446 --> 01:43:55,716 All right. Maybe this might be 3401 01:43:55,716 --> 01:43:57,284 the most anticipated, uh, 3402 01:43:57,284 --> 01:43:57,484 comment of the night. Our city 3403 01:43:57,484 --> 01:43:58,853 clerk 3404 01:43:58,853 --> 01:43:58,985 s report. 3405 01:43:58,985 --> 01:43:59,887 I 3406 01:43:59,887 --> 01:44:01,189 m gonna keep this really 3407 01:44:01,189 --> 01:44:02,456 short. Happy birthday to my 3408 01:44:02,456 --> 01:44:03,223 baby sister, Frannie. She 3409 01:44:03,223 --> 01:44:04,458 s 38, 3410 01:44:04,458 --> 01:44:06,394 but still a baby to me. 3411 01:44:06,394 --> 01:44:08,280 My baby sister. Oh, okay. 3412 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:08,229 Happy birthday. Thank you. 3413 01:44:08,229 --> 01:44:10,229 That 3414 01:44:10,297 --> 01:44:11,640 s awesome. Where are we 3415 01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,134 going? Are we. Are we gonna 3416 01:44:13,134 --> 01:44:14,368 start tonight? Okay. 3417 01:44:14,368 --> 01:44:17,368 Um, MAY I rehearse this 3418 01:44:18,906 --> 01:44:20,774 earlier? I have no comment. 3419 01:44:20,774 --> 01:44:21,742 Uh, just, uh, congratulations 3420 01:44:21,742 --> 01:44:22,844 to our three teams that we 3421 01:44:22,844 --> 01:44:23,844 recognized earlier, and 3422 01:44:23,844 --> 01:44:25,790 everybody have a great rest of 3423 01:44:25,790 --> 01:44:27,790 your week. 3424 01:44:27,147 --> 01:44:29,147 Awesome. Councilmember wills. 3425 01:44:29,383 --> 01:44:31,218 Thank you. Mayor. Um, I 3426 01:44:31,218 --> 01:44:31,486 attended the Chamber of 3427 01:44:31,486 --> 01:44:33,486 Commerce 3428 01:44:33,554 --> 01:44:35,220 s, um, leadership 3429 01:44:35,220 --> 01:44:36,523 conference earlier today. That 3430 01:44:36,523 --> 01:44:37,691 was wonderful to see all the 3431 01:44:37,691 --> 01:44:40,610 ladies come together. It was 3432 01:44:40,610 --> 01:44:41,280 very empowering. Uh, so kudos 3433 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:42,563 to them. They do such good 3434 01:44:42,563 --> 01:44:44,598 work. And so it was a wonderful 3435 01:44:44,598 --> 01:44:47,535 event to attend. And, uh, 3436 01:44:47,535 --> 01:44:49,270 praying for a safe, um, school 3437 01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:51,138 year for all of the teachers 3438 01:44:51,138 --> 01:44:52,440 and administrators and students 3439 01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:54,341 going back to school with pay 3440 01:44:54,341 --> 01:44:54,542 county schools. Um, and I think 3441 01:44:54,542 --> 01:44:55,242 that 3442 01:44:55,242 --> 01:44:56,243 s all I have. Mayor. 3443 01:44:56,243 --> 01:44:57,511 Thank you. All right. Thank you 3444 01:44:57,511 --> 01:44:58,212 very much, Councilmember 3445 01:44:58,212 --> 01:44:59,313 Robinson. 3446 01:44:59,313 --> 01:45:00,747 Uh, I just want to echo the 3447 01:45:00,747 --> 01:45:02,116 comments earlier. First, 3448 01:45:02,116 --> 01:45:03,500 congratulations to Glen Wooten 3449 01:45:03,500 --> 01:45:03,484 for serving us for three 3450 01:45:03,484 --> 01:45:04,652 decades. That 3451 01:45:04,652 --> 01:45:06,153 s amazing. 3452 01:45:06,153 --> 01:45:07,855 Congratulations to those three 3453 01:45:07,855 --> 01:45:09,890 teams. I mean, I really hear 3454 01:45:09,890 --> 01:45:11,225 the Lady Swarm are just 3455 01:45:11,225 --> 01:45:12,393 incredible players and coaches. 3456 01:45:12,393 --> 01:45:13,427 I appreciate you volunteering 3457 01:45:13,427 --> 01:45:15,329 your time and being a role 3458 01:45:15,329 --> 01:45:16,396 model for these kids. It means 3459 01:45:16,396 --> 01:45:17,832 more than you probably ever 3460 01:45:17,832 --> 01:45:18,320 know in your lifetime, but 3461 01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:18,900 they 3462 01:45:18,900 --> 01:45:20,267 ll carry those lessons 3463 01:45:20,267 --> 01:45:20,434 forward with them. And if 3464 01:45:20,434 --> 01:45:21,335 you 3465 01:45:21,335 --> 01:45:21,668 re watching and you have a 3466 01:45:21,668 --> 01:45:22,469 team that 3467 01:45:22,469 --> 01:45:23,671 s doing well, please 3468 01:45:23,671 --> 01:45:27,341 let us know so we can have them 3469 01:45:27,341 --> 01:45:27,508 down here at City Hall. Um, uh, 3470 01:45:27,508 --> 01:45:29,142 let 3471 01:45:29,142 --> 01:45:30,945 s see. Also, thank you to 3472 01:45:30,945 --> 01:45:33,945 everybody and staff and Valerie 3473 01:45:34,748 --> 01:45:36,984 for a smiley mug of flowers 3474 01:45:36,984 --> 01:45:38,118 and, uh, a gift certificate out 3475 01:45:38,118 --> 01:45:39,353 to Boa. I mean, because that 3476 01:45:39,353 --> 01:45:41,555 first two weeks, I was not 3477 01:45:41,555 --> 01:45:42,956 smiling after knee replacement, 3478 01:45:42,956 --> 01:45:43,690 and I looked up and my wife put 3479 01:45:43,690 --> 01:45:45,590 it right in front of me. She 3480 01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:47,940 said. She said, do what the cup 3481 01:45:47,940 --> 01:45:47,228 says and smile. And so thank 3482 01:45:47,228 --> 01:45:48,228 y 3483 01:45:48,228 --> 01:45:49,430 all for doing that because I 3484 01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:50,264 was not smiling the first two 3485 01:45:50,264 --> 01:45:51,298 weeks. But thank you all for 3486 01:45:51,298 --> 01:45:53,934 thinking of me during that 3487 01:45:53,934 --> 01:45:55,934 time. 3488 01:45:56,237 --> 01:45:57,571 Good. All right. Mayor Pro tem 3489 01:45:57,571 --> 01:45:58,272 for me. 3490 01:45:58,272 --> 01:46:00,272 Uh. 3491 01:46:00,408 --> 01:46:02,443 I will mirror the comments that 3492 01:46:02,443 --> 01:46:04,244 were made and elevate again. 3493 01:46:04,244 --> 01:46:05,813 The teams that were here and 3494 01:46:05,813 --> 01:46:08,820 the many teams that we have in 3495 01:46:08,820 --> 01:46:09,483 this city on all sides that are 3496 01:46:09,483 --> 01:46:11,180 functioning in excellence and 3497 01:46:11,180 --> 01:46:12,953 putting in hard work to make 3498 01:46:12,953 --> 01:46:13,154 these accomplishments. So 3499 01:46:13,154 --> 01:46:13,620 that 3500 01:46:13,620 --> 01:46:15,620 s all. 3501 01:46:16,323 --> 01:46:17,959 All right. I echo what everyone 3502 01:46:17,959 --> 01:46:18,726 else said. Now I need a motion 3503 01:46:18,726 --> 01:46:19,660 to adjourn. 3504 01:46:19,660 --> 01:46:20,270 Motion to adjourn. 3505 01:46:20,270 --> 01:46:22,270 Second. 3506 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:23,231 I need a motion been made by 3507 01:46:23,231 --> 01:46:24,732 Councilmember Robinson. Second 3508 01:46:24,732 --> 01:46:25,733 by Mayor Pro Tem Forman. All 3509 01:46:25,733 --> 01:46:26,733 those in favor say aye. Aye. 3510 01:46:26,733 --> 01:46:28,168 Those opposed. Nay, nay. 3511 01:46:28,168 --> 01:46:30,168 Passes five zero.