1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,480 Call the meeting to order. Check. 2 00:00:05,030 --> 00:00:09,910 Gentlemen, we're going to call the meeting to order for the town of Greenville. Tom Board, August 24th, 712 p.m. 3 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:18,090 You'll go in through roll call, Mark Strobel, Joe Ryan, here, in the feeders, here in Colberton. Here, back to Anderson's here. Please stand face the flag for the pledge of allegiance. 4 00:00:21,980 --> 00:00:32,300 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 5 00:00:32,300 --> 00:00:33,480 All right, 6 00:00:35,940 --> 00:00:37,540 getting into the public hearings. 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,920 There's non-presentations, there's non-public comment form. 8 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,240 I have nobody signed up, but is there anybody wishing to speak? 9 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,860 We have Gene Gafford, it's wishing to speak here in the room, 10 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:51,860 and then I'll go through those on the phone. 11 00:00:52,540 --> 00:00:54,560 Gene, just your name and address, you know the- 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,180 Gene Gafford, N-853, Julius Drive, 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,860 and I was just, oh, no, lobby there. 14 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:05,160 With Spencer Main's idea, 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,140 maybe he could make the buildings look like barns. 16 00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:12,540 So that was just something we were talking about. 17 00:01:13,060 --> 00:01:16,880 Anyway, last meeting on the CSM's 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,620 up on the corner of Julius and Spencer. 19 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,320 The Planning Commission denied the request. 20 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:29,540 Town board overruled. 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,460 And I'd like an explanation as to why 22 00:01:34,940 --> 00:01:42,300 the town board decide to overrule that because I don't quite I want a better 23 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:50,120 explanation in my mind because usually you do what the planning commission comes 24 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:59,020 up with with a suggestion and you didn't do it this time so I wasn't present you 25 00:01:59,020 --> 00:02:04,740 weren't here? For the vote on that. So I'm going to ask if anybody of my peers up here 26 00:02:04,740 --> 00:02:08,940 would like to help answer your question, if they're willing, feel free. 27 00:02:11,420 --> 00:02:12,260 What was the date 28 00:02:12,260 --> 00:02:18,280 of the last planning and town board meeting? Are you referring to the town board meeting 29 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:26,540 on July 27th? No. It was asking about was the rezoning of the parcel that's on the northeast 30 00:02:26,540 --> 00:02:28,200 this corner of Spencer and Julius, 31 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,140 and the planning commission, 32 00:02:30,140 --> 00:02:32,100 I'm trying to remember the month and all this. 33 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,120 It was just a month ago. 34 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,800 It was just a month ago. 35 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,040 No, it would be July 27th. 36 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,100 I apologize, I thought it was for the back. 37 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,240 My bad joke, go ahead. 38 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,700 So I wasn't here, July 27th. 39 00:02:46,230 --> 00:02:49,950 I think it was for the back, that's why I said that. 40 00:02:51,090 --> 00:02:53,430 That's I'm confused about the date on this. 41 00:02:56,830 --> 00:02:59,790 Anybody have recollection because I won this one? 42 00:02:59,890 --> 00:03:00,850 I don't recall. 43 00:03:00,850 --> 00:03:04,890 All it was a few months ago though, I could go back and look. 44 00:03:05,130 --> 00:03:05,930 Is that a conjure? 45 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:07,230 It was a rezone. 46 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:08,710 It was last meeting in June, I believe. 47 00:03:09,930 --> 00:03:11,590 Is there a second Tom Borden meeting? 48 00:03:11,850 --> 00:03:14,710 If my mind is correct. 49 00:03:15,230 --> 00:03:17,230 Well, I know that Jack wasn't here. 50 00:03:17,610 --> 00:03:18,530 I know that, so. 51 00:03:19,310 --> 00:03:22,830 So as Jean said, I do recall this that the Planning Commission 52 00:03:22,830 --> 00:03:27,150 recommended to deny the rezoning and the Tom Borden went forward 53 00:03:27,150 --> 00:03:27,910 and approved it. 54 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,240 How come? 55 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,220 Is anybody have an explanation why they voted to approve it? 56 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:47,840 This was the family that inherited the land and it split between four daughters, I believe, and that was, I probably voted to rezone it. 57 00:03:49,000 --> 00:04:01,160 I don't know, you need to know that, but I was giving a lot of support towards those family members because they were told initially to come back with a CSM and a site plan. 58 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,100 and I'm sorry, they were told to get their zoning 59 00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:07,920 before they do the subdivision and lay it out 60 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,500 and we asked them, what is your plan with this? 61 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,220 How is it gonna be for equal lots? 62 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,360 Is it gonna be smaller lots and larger lots? 63 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,660 So in my mind, we kinda put them through the ringer 64 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:22,520 of going through all these multiple steps 65 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,340 when really it was an inheritance of a piece of land 66 00:04:26,340 --> 00:04:30,620 for them to sell and now they felt the market was right 67 00:04:30,620 --> 00:04:31,700 to sell it as residential. 68 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:37,880 And that would have been some prime property 69 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:45,920 that down the road if we have a PDR program of some sort 70 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:48,800 that a farmer could have purchased it 71 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,560 being right in the middle of the AEA. 72 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:52,700 I guess so. 73 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:56,020 And I don't believe anything's preventing a farmer 74 00:04:56,020 --> 00:04:57,040 from buying it now. 75 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Well, yeah, they have much money. 76 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:29,250 And that's, I mean, that's just the markets. That's why they wanted to do it. And I was supporting that. Anybody else have feedback? Yeah, I can make a comment. I follow this recorded bit because I understand it's in the middle of the egg district and all that, but I could not come up with a reason legally to deny it. And that weighs a lot on what the decisions you make is being fair and legal. If you didn't do it for them, then we should do it for anybody. 77 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:33,470 But it just, I could not come up with one solid reason 78 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:35,890 that we could deny it. 79 00:05:36,250 --> 00:05:40,030 There, there's a 80 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:48,780 land that my, I mean, it's right next to my family's property. 81 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Okay. So, he also owns property over by the lion's part. 82 00:05:58,890 --> 00:06:04,650 And maybe if we could have been creative, we could have somehow, 83 00:06:07,460 --> 00:06:14,660 he could have given up some of his land so that he could have had land closer to his property. 84 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:20,200 We don't change that, do you want to step over there, but that's interesting you'd mention 85 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:27,760 right now, because we're always open to those kind of discussions, but we nobody had 86 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,680 came forward and talked us about that, but if that's something in the back of your mind, 87 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,560 that door right down there, right next to that corner, I would suspect tomorrow morning 88 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,820 when it hurt to come down and have some we have a conversation, we're open to those kind 89 00:06:43,820 --> 00:06:48,500 conversations, you know that, but it didn't happen with night we had our make our decision. 90 00:06:50,940 --> 00:07:02,920 So anyway, there's we want to say farmland and there's not a lot to be saved and that's 91 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:10,970 a prime, just a prime area right in the AEEA and I could say more but I'm going to, I'll 92 00:07:10,970 --> 00:07:17,650 stop there. But I just needed an explanation. I don't know why. You know, we thought we 93 00:07:17,650 --> 00:07:22,430 kind of knew better than what the planning commission. I mean, the planning commission 94 00:07:22,430 --> 00:07:32,690 said that no, that should, that should stay agricultural. And we decided not. So we want, 95 00:07:32,690 --> 00:07:38,130 we need, we need, we need your support to keep our, our, our land going. 96 00:07:38,130 --> 00:07:41,410 And Jean, you know, I think we've been doing a pretty good job on that. 97 00:07:42,370 --> 00:07:43,550 None of us up here are perfect. 98 00:07:44,750 --> 00:07:47,750 But we've been supported, go through the years that we've had these discussions. 99 00:07:47,750 --> 00:07:49,890 We've always supported this type of program. 100 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:55,390 It's like I said, tomorrow, some time or this week, come on down and talk. 101 00:07:57,550 --> 00:08:02,770 And where Jim's other land is, what else is close by? 102 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:13,050 and that's coming after some of his land toys already and we you know we're we're in a good spot 103 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:20,910 we're in a bad spot and we want to keep going and my niece and nephew want to keep that land going 104 00:08:20,910 --> 00:08:32,490 too so we're not we're maybe older but we're not we're not at the end yet so you want to keep the 105 00:08:32,490 --> 00:08:36,710 mention something because I want to always reiterate this because it tends to get lost 106 00:08:36,710 --> 00:08:37,770 a little bit in translation. 107 00:08:38,430 --> 00:08:44,850 The town board in zoning decisions, if you're going to rezone a property, has full discretion. 108 00:08:45,490 --> 00:08:47,170 You have full legislative discretion. 109 00:08:47,870 --> 00:08:52,850 You have no issues, if somebody came to you and says I want to rezone a piece of property 110 00:08:52,850 --> 00:08:59,490 from R1 to industrial, you have no obligation to rezone it at any given task, no obligation. 111 00:08:59,490 --> 00:09:05,490 The only obligation that you would have is to ensure that that industrial zoning, that 112 00:09:05,490 --> 00:09:09,250 they're intending to rezone it to, is consistent with your comprehensive plan. 113 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:14,470 If it's not, then you really shouldn't do it because you could run into some legal challenges 114 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:15,070 that way. 115 00:09:15,730 --> 00:09:22,750 But even if, let's say in the example that industrial was the planned use, you are still 116 00:09:22,750 --> 00:09:25,670 under no obligation to zone it to industrial. 117 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:32,090 You don't have to, you could say industrial is our future use there, but at this point 118 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:36,550 in time you don't want to put that much development pressure in that area, and so we're 119 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:38,230 not going to reason it to that district. 120 00:09:38,530 --> 00:09:40,630 So just, yeah, not yet, exactly. 121 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:43,750 So just always remember, you always have that full discretion. 122 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:47,590 And I think we tend to get into challenges when you have something else planned for that 123 00:09:47,590 --> 00:09:47,890 area. 124 00:09:48,130 --> 00:09:55,170 I think we have to be really mindful of this as we have, we see a strong push to even have 125 00:09:55,170 --> 00:09:59,950 residential developments stay within our sewer service area to fully utilize that infrastructure that we haven't 126 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Please, before we start expanding beyond. And so just, we need to be smart about that. So I appreciate you coming forward tonight. Okay. All right. Thank you. 127 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:41,020 I know Corey is here for new business. So I'm going to pass over Corey. Duke Banky is on the line. Duke do you have any comment? 128 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:54,260 Okay hearing none from Duke Sarah Hins. Sarah, I think you're on the line for a new business item. 129 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,460 I'm on for the Greenville contract along with Corey. 130 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,040 So Corey will be doing the speaking for us. 131 00:11:05,460 --> 00:11:08,620 Thank you, Sarah. Okay. That is all I have on the line right now. 132 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,120 Since that's all we have I'll make a motion to close the public comment form. 133 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,580 second that. 134 00:11:14,860 --> 00:11:19,720 Indicators has given the second all in favor of clothes say aye aye post. 135 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:21,980 Public comment forms close. 136 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,000 Consent agenda has many items on it from the planning commission. 137 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,600 But also note that there's a special event application from the civic club. 138 00:11:29,860 --> 00:11:31,760 Second street name plate purchasing, 139 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Master Material and rental purchase and then the resolution of 690-20 providing 140 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,820 for a referendum regarding the incorporation of the town of Greenville. 141 00:11:40,820 --> 00:11:48,660 Any questions? Comments or motion? I'd like to remove item 6B through 6G, 142 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:57,540 which is a purpose of removing those. Just to help, I'm record who's voting which way. 143 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:07,020 And 6G, I just had the comment that I'd like to make as far as the home occupation. 144 00:12:07,020 --> 00:12:09,020 So you're requesting a roll call vote on those. 145 00:12:09,860 --> 00:12:11,820 Well, that'd be a roll call vote. 146 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:18,580 But we can even do all six B through six F. 147 00:12:19,060 --> 00:12:20,200 If you want to vote. 148 00:12:21,860 --> 00:12:23,740 Because I'm going to vote against them. 149 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,360 I'll just point simple. 150 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:27,000 Okay. 151 00:12:27,340 --> 00:12:29,860 You have a different opinion than some of the topics in here. 152 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:30,400 Okay. 153 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,800 And there was six. 154 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:51,620 B is in boy or B is in dog. B is in boy through 6G. Okay, thank you. And then 6J. All right, so my motion carries forward for my motion. Yeah, 6A, H, I, J, K, L, M, N. 155 00:12:53,650 --> 00:12:57,230 So skipping B through G and 6G. 156 00:12:57,630 --> 00:12:58,310 Oh, 6G? 157 00:12:58,510 --> 00:12:59,450 I just got a comment on that. 158 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,700 Okay, so I've got a motion to approve all other items, 159 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,080 other than B through G as well as 6G. 160 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Andy, do you have the second, I believe? 161 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:11,420 Yep. 162 00:13:12,060 --> 00:13:12,680 Does that stay? 163 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:14,440 Your second? 164 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,040 Yes. 165 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Okay, so we have a motion with a second for the consent agenda. 166 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:20,740 All in favor, say aye. 167 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:21,620 Aye. 168 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:22,540 Opposed? 169 00:13:23,780 --> 00:13:24,720 and motion carries. 170 00:13:28,380 --> 00:13:32,680 Let's go with 6B through G. Mark, you said you could do these as a group. 171 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,080 6B through 6F. If you want to do them as a group, that's fine. 172 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,060 Okay, do you want to give us your feedback or make any comments or questions? 173 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:51,360 I disagree with the setup in the concept of the kind of plants. I think they should, 174 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:54,360 from the 175 00:13:54,360 --> 00:14:06,320 town road should follow the the zoned setbacks which they haven't so I was 176 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:18,770 against that from the get-go and I'm opposed to the duplex style condominiums. 177 00:14:19,170 --> 00:14:24,130 All right then that's for item 6b through 6g correct in the other six F. 178 00:14:24,130 --> 00:14:31,070 six F sorry. These were from the inception of the planned unit development. They 179 00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:36,410 were always planned to be duplexes as I mean just reminding people from the 180 00:14:36,410 --> 00:14:42,430 planning commission. Correct. So basically there's just changing the layout. The 181 00:14:43,130 --> 00:14:48,810 two offered different like one bedroom up to three bedroom and up to a three 182 00:14:48,810 --> 00:14:55,470 car garage correct yeah I was opposed at that time also so that's okay that's my 183 00:14:55,470 --> 00:14:58,630 reason all right I'm gonna make a motion to approve item 6b through 6f 184 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,840 I'll second that. Is it any other questions or comments? Appreciate yours, Mark. 185 00:15:08,730 --> 00:15:30,870 Not hearing any. Let's go forward to our vote. This is to approve item six B through six F. All in favor say aye. Opposed say, nay. Motion carries item six B through six F are approved. Six G is the home occupation. Mark, you had some concerns about this. Yeah, if we go through with this. One of the things that I came up with is 186 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:44,770 and noticed out there when I go by it that no vehicles, trailers, dumpsters, construction equipment, construction materials or anything of that sort should be stored or parked on that property at any time. 187 00:15:45,850 --> 00:15:48,750 I think the conditions are in here was just one work vehicle. 188 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:49,710 Correct. 189 00:15:50,070 --> 00:15:51,190 Is that a person's residence? 190 00:15:51,850 --> 00:15:55,630 So the parking there basically they're a work vehicle of the residents. 191 00:15:55,830 --> 00:15:56,130 That's it. 192 00:15:56,130 --> 00:16:03,750 Yeah, I didn't see anything as far as trailers, dumpsters, and construction equipment, or construction material. 193 00:16:04,530 --> 00:16:05,230 Yeah, absolutely. 194 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:11,750 Those are conditions as part of the general conditions and the home occupation section, trucks and trailers. 195 00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:13,490 So, yeah. 196 00:16:14,050 --> 00:16:18,490 But as far as the construction equipment and materials and dumpsters and that kind of thing. 197 00:16:18,510 --> 00:16:19,610 Right. Nothing can be there. 198 00:16:19,610 --> 00:16:40,950 Right now it's out there is when staff hasn't expected it were trucks and trailers in the gravel so they're going to remove all that the trucks and trailers are going to they're going to store somewhere else presumably a self store facility will be allowed to keep one, you know, truck vehicle for personal use because he lives there and the girls are going to remove the gravel. 199 00:16:40,950 --> 00:16:45,810 So, again, the conditions that are generally stated in the 200 00:16:45,810 --> 00:16:49,670 homework condition conditions is they can't change the outside appearance. 201 00:16:49,930 --> 00:16:52,850 So, they can't store anything else related to the business outside. 202 00:16:53,290 --> 00:16:56,330 I just don't want to put it behind the building either. 203 00:16:56,570 --> 00:16:56,710 Sure. 204 00:16:57,250 --> 00:17:01,230 And, again, you know, if it's behind the building, it's difficult for a staff to see, 205 00:17:01,370 --> 00:17:04,530 if we're driving by, if we get complaints from neighbors, we investigate it, 206 00:17:04,590 --> 00:17:06,390 and then we go to the enforcement route. 207 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:17,620 I just only want to make it clear to the person that you can't have that kind of stuff on the and listed in the 208 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:23,420 Yep, I don't make motion to approve resolution 6420 209 00:17:24,180 --> 00:17:24,660 second 210 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,740 Mark's given the second. Yeah, okay 211 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,160 No, you were throwing your voice jewel 212 00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:35,760 All right, so we've got a motion to approve resolution 6420 213 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,040 If the second, all in favor, say aye. 214 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:39,700 Aye. 215 00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:40,360 Opposed? 216 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Motion carries, 6420 is approved, and that takes us down to 6J, the Planning Commission 217 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,420 recommendation for approval of resolution 6720. 218 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:58,980 I just have one comment that if this CSM is approved, which I so it will be that a note on 219 00:17:58,980 --> 00:18:04,080 there, and I'll let the town staff come up with the exact verbiage, but that no additional 220 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:10,250 land divisions by certified survey map should be allowed on any of the lots. 221 00:18:11,670 --> 00:18:16,850 Yep, that'll be revised because it's also a requirement that is like town code but by 222 00:18:16,850 --> 00:18:24,430 town code. Correct. All right, you know, that could be given to Michael in previous 223 00:18:24,430 --> 00:18:29,550 the meeting too, if you wanted to mark in the future. Yep. And I didn't have a time. Yep, 224 00:18:29,710 --> 00:18:33,250 it's okay. That kind of has already been given to the applicant. So they're aware of the changes 225 00:18:33,250 --> 00:18:42,410 All right then I'll make the motion to approve resolution 6720 I'll second to arise give a second questions or comments 226 00:18:42,410 --> 00:18:47,740 All right on favor say aye. I post 227 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:52,540 I'm off the carries takes us on to you wrong 228 00:18:58,490 --> 00:19:00,070 meeting unfinished 229 00:19:03,370 --> 00:19:04,530 business new business 230 00:19:04,530 --> 00:19:13,130 Bit award including alternates AE for the safety building remodeling and conversion for public works and parks recreation forestry departments 231 00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:20,350 Okay, as you recall, a few weeks back we had presented to the Board a 90% drawing plan 232 00:19:20,350 --> 00:19:26,890 for remodeling the old fire station and essentially creating an office environment for public 233 00:19:26,890 --> 00:19:33,650 works, utilities, parks and recreation. Part of that interior remodel also handled taking 234 00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:41,910 care of some mechanical components, plumbing, electrical, HVAC. Within that design set, understanding 235 00:19:41,910 --> 00:19:46,770 that our budget was rather tight for this particular project, we created several 236 00:19:46,770 --> 00:19:51,710 alternates to be bid out so we could determine whether or not those 237 00:19:51,710 --> 00:19:56,830 alternate take projects could be fit into the the general scope of our work. 238 00:19:57,090 --> 00:19:59,870 And so we bid those items out and did 239 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:26,940 We received very favorable bids, very competitive bids for this particular project. I will kind of call on Corey and Sarah from Cedar Corp to kind of walk through the bid analysis, but before we do that, I just wanted to kind of point out a couple of things. There are five alternate bids to this particular project. One was an entrance vestibule, so the vestibule that's currently there, I think we're very familiar with the failure of that vestibule. 240 00:20:26,940 --> 00:20:30,780 It's not sitting on any type of frost puddings or anything to that degree. 241 00:20:31,540 --> 00:20:36,460 So that really needs to just come down and in order to replace that, we were unsure 242 00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:37,740 of what that cost would be. 243 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,000 The overhead doors are obviously worn and aged a little bit. 244 00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:45,660 They're in good, solid state, but they could use some spursing up. 245 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,800 So we propose repainting the overhead doors on the exterior side just to kind of give it 246 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,140 a fresh coat of paint, if you will. 247 00:20:53,360 --> 00:21:02,800 As part of the remodel, we do need to replace the HVAC system that would be within the office area because it needs to be configured to support occupied space. 248 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:09,120 But we didn't necessarily need to do that simultaneously with the shop area. 249 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:17,780 Of course, both units are aged out, but we thought that could be an opportunity to find savings in the event that budget numbers or bid numbers came in high. 250 00:21:17,780 --> 00:21:23,520 So we split those two components in half, one being an alternate, the other being a part 251 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,500 of the original scope of work. 252 00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:31,300 And so that HVAC system is replacing it in what we call the highway, or the area that 253 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:34,180 our park's department is taking over for their shop area. 254 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:36,800 And so that came in as well. 255 00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:43,460 The electrical panels really need to be replaced, but so this is kind of an upgrade to those 256 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:44,800 panels, and that was an alternate. 257 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:57,700 And then the existing emergency generator that supports not only that building, but the public works building, the transfer switch is inadequate based on the design specifications of the generator. 258 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,880 And so it would be important for us to replace that switch. 259 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:13,440 Again, not necessarily mandatory for us to move into the building, but in order for it to continually operate in a manner that was designed for the transfer switch was important. 260 00:22:14,260 --> 00:22:20,170 As you can see, our bid totals turn off Michael's microphone. 261 00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:22,470 Our bid totals came in very favorably. 262 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:26,030 The low bid came from RGM construction on a black creek. 263 00:22:26,170 --> 00:22:31,290 The base bid was $330,000, $330, and $450. 264 00:22:32,380 --> 00:22:38,170 With the alternatives contingencies and design permitting fees, the overall budget, our overall 265 00:22:38,170 --> 00:22:42,930 project bid amount came in at 566,073. 266 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:49,930 When we presented back in July to you, the 90% plan and the estimate, all those figures 267 00:22:50,490 --> 00:22:58,130 totaled an estimated 583,476, so you can see obviously that the totals came in under 268 00:22:58,130 --> 00:22:59,450 that design estimate. 269 00:23:00,270 --> 00:23:04,310 When we budgeted this particular project, we really kind of were shooting in the dark because 270 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:06,850 at that time you didn't have any designs for it. 271 00:23:07,370 --> 00:23:10,890 If you recall the conversation was, okay, how much do you want to spend on it? 272 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:16,350 let's set a budget figure and that's what we're going to work from and so for this particular project 273 00:23:16,350 --> 00:23:22,890 specifically within the general capital projects fund we had allocated $500,000 for that project. 274 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:29,470 As you can see based on the contingencies and some of the additional fees that dollar values a little 275 00:23:29,470 --> 00:23:35,690 bit higher than that but in talking with staff and looking at our prior bid awards for other projects 276 00:23:35,690 --> 00:23:41,150 our bids have come in considerably less for both general projects like road 277 00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:45,890 construction or 820 contract as well as any other projects related to our 278 00:23:45,890 --> 00:23:50,930 utilities and specifically our stormwater utility. And since this building is 279 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:55,570 going to be housing stormwater and water and sewer utility operations we feel 280 00:23:55,570 --> 00:23:58,990 it would be appropriate to charge some of the costs associated with this 281 00:23:58,990 --> 00:24:03,490 project to those utilities since they are being housed there. And so staff is 282 00:24:03,490 --> 00:24:11,610 recommending approval of the contract to RGM construction with all the alternatives for 283 00:24:11,610 --> 00:24:20,050 a value of 566773. The total construction for the contract obviously would be the 330450 284 00:24:20,050 --> 00:24:25,070 plus the alternatives. And with that, I'll pass it over to Corey and Sarah who can provide 285 00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:29,490 you a review of the bid tabs and an analysis of the bids. Corey? 286 00:24:33,670 --> 00:24:37,150 Or Sarah? Corey might be 287 00:24:37,150 --> 00:24:38,530 We have some audio problems. 288 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:46,300 Give him another second because I know he was more prepared for this and what he wanted 289 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:47,060 to talk about. 290 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:51,760 Yeah, right now I don't have him connected to the audio, Sarah. 291 00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:53,740 Okay. 292 00:24:53,740 --> 00:24:59,880 So the bed tab all along all the bed came in relatively close to 293 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:28,920 So, the low bid being RGM was pretty good compared to the high bid, which sometimes happens when they're not super desiring the project. If it's got enough work to do, they'll throw a lot of money at it or if there's a lot of unknown, especially with COVID season. Some of them are seeing products to be hard to get in prices going up. So there was always that chance where they just throw a number at it and don't want to look at it too close. 294 00:25:31,540 --> 00:25:36,460 but we felt good with all of the bids, there weren't a lot of questions, which is always good, 295 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,720 that means everybody feels very confident with the plans and what they're bidding. 296 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,900 So, we expect it to be a good project. 297 00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:52,540 Sarah, can you comment a little bit on the time run of construction and substantial and final completion? 298 00:25:54,340 --> 00:25:56,640 We have a tight timeline for them. 299 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,720 The goal is that substantial completion would be February 2021. 300 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,000 one. I believe that's when you guys need to be over into that building. Is that correct? 301 00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:08,080 That's when we want to be over there. It's not sooner. 302 00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:16,630 So that's our substantial. But you know, once we get a construction kickoff meeting after the 303 00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:21,430 contracts are awarded, we will discuss with the contractor what their proposed schedule is and see 304 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:26,530 if there's any efficiencies in putting it together. Once they take a look at all of it, it could fly 305 00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:31,990 pretty quickly. There's not a lot of demo that's actually occurring within the facility. 306 00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:38,430 The main majority of demo is actually abatement of the asbestos floor tile and 307 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:43,370 mastic that is in the main portion I would call it the the western portion, the 308 00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:48,170 town hall area. So that's probably the biggest amount of demo. There's some door 309 00:26:48,170 --> 00:26:53,410 opening, but that's about it. So they should be able to get hit the ground running 310 00:26:53,410 --> 00:26:55,110 pretty darn quick. 311 00:26:57,390 --> 00:27:01,690 Let's see what else. I don't believe it should take too long though. 312 00:27:01,690 --> 00:27:05,690 and we'll have more information when we meet with the contractor to have a kickoff meeting. 313 00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:08,810 Any questions? 314 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:10,430 Yeah, I got one question. 315 00:27:10,550 --> 00:27:12,570 One thing that I remember looking at in the past with this building, 316 00:27:12,750 --> 00:27:15,110 when we were talking about just doing some renovations to it, 317 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:19,390 the fire seat, we had some brust on the outside exterior doors. 318 00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:21,510 That's one of the things that stood out. 319 00:27:21,610 --> 00:27:22,810 Is that been put into this? 320 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:24,530 The place those doors are? 321 00:27:24,690 --> 00:27:24,890 Correct. 322 00:27:25,150 --> 00:27:27,950 So all exterior doors are being replaced. 323 00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:33,130 Our goal with this project was to utilize as much of the existing building as possible. 324 00:27:33,130 --> 00:27:38,030 but not make it look like we're slapping lipstick on a pig is what we like to call it. 325 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:43,630 So anything that is showing a little too much where is being replaced. So all extra 326 00:27:43,630 --> 00:27:49,910 your doors are being replaced and they're all going to be roughed in for security system, 327 00:27:50,530 --> 00:27:55,610 for card access. Whether you guys decide to put it on every single door or just a few, 328 00:27:55,790 --> 00:28:00,650 they're all going to be roughed in to have that option in the end. So it will all look cohesive, 329 00:28:00,650 --> 00:28:04,530 especially with the alternate being accepted with a garage door being painted. 330 00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:09,950 So the outside should look fresh, so the CMU is all being painted too. 331 00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:13,170 So from an outside perspective, it's going to look really nice and clean. 332 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:17,250 Does the town of being able to have any history with the contractor of choice? 333 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:20,250 Or recommendation, I should say? 334 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:21,510 We do. 335 00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:23,250 The contractor actually did. 336 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:25,130 A lot of the... 337 00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:26,070 I had to turn your mic on. 338 00:28:26,370 --> 00:28:26,750 Oh, okay. 339 00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:33,290 All right, we do, this contractor did do a lot of the concrete work at well-fired, flat work stuff like that. 340 00:28:33,910 --> 00:28:40,250 We did actually have to do one change order with this individual, may have submitted very competitive prices. 341 00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:45,950 Didn't have really any issues with communication or anything like that through the project itself. 342 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:52,010 So we also reached out to Cedar Corporation to see if they've ever worked with this contractor elsewhere. 343 00:28:52,010 --> 00:28:56,290 where I think there's two other projects that they had mentioned. One in Bellevue and I do not 344 00:28:56,290 --> 00:29:01,190 do not recover the other one is located. Who from the town staff would be leading the effort? 345 00:29:03,070 --> 00:29:09,330 Okay so. Okay. I just want to know who I can go to if I see something. Right um 346 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:16,110 Cedar does have a resident engineer in the construction administration letter of authorization that was 347 00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:22,210 previously approved. They do have some dollars allocated for that but general 348 00:29:22,210 --> 00:29:27,730 construction stuff like that day-to-day will be myself. Okay. Any other questions 349 00:29:27,730 --> 00:29:32,430 or comments? I have a couple questions. What you would first was the high 350 00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:40,630 being you look at the for the plan. Is that going to be not only the office 351 00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:45,230 space but also the area where they're going to probably be doing construction in 352 00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:52,030 the garage area also. So that building appears as though as the western half was actually 353 00:29:52,030 --> 00:29:57,790 added on later. I think it's like four additional doors. Really a very limited work will be 354 00:29:57,790 --> 00:29:59,730 perform in there aside from the alternate. 355 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:29,860 The parks department has actually moved up into that part of the building, repainted it, cleaned it up. As for the other portion, the more eastern portion, I may have missed walking. So when I was initially talking about, was actually the eastern most portion. The less the most portion is the one that will see additional work. There'll be a few walls added and stuff like that as part of the project. 356 00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:38,880 I guess I'm having said that isn't that really difficult at your condition area that large especially the doors are open and closing all day long? 357 00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:42,280 It's just radiant that's being replaced there. 358 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,140 Oh, not that. 359 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:43,540 Okay. 360 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:58,560 The only areas that will be air conditioned will be the office areas which are pretty much on that southernmost wall and then part of the training facility that the old fire department did use. 361 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:04,880 That'll also be offices, but anywhere where it's high they will not not have any sort of air conditioning. Okay. Thanks for clarifying that. 362 00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:13,200 And then again, I see there is $88,000 in fees to Cedar carp as far as this and that and the other thing. 363 00:31:13,780 --> 00:31:19,780 I don't have my paper or my calculator, but that's about 12-13% that's typical. 364 00:31:20,820 --> 00:31:23,500 And that 88,000 is kind of a lump total. 365 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,400 That's not only your cedar fees, but there is a study 366 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,520 and a basis of abatement study that was completed. 367 00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:31,060 That was 4,000 on itself. 368 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,340 There were permitting fees that we had to submit 369 00:31:33,340 --> 00:31:33,880 to the state. 370 00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:36,720 That's all included in that 88,000 dollars. 371 00:31:38,620 --> 00:31:42,220 Okay, any other questions, comments or in the motion? 372 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:45,620 Any motion? 373 00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:52,450 I'll make a motion to prove the word of contract 374 00:31:52,450 --> 00:31:53,210 including an author. 375 00:31:53,310 --> 00:31:55,790 It's A through E for the safety building remodel 376 00:31:55,790 --> 00:32:00,490 and conversion to a lower responsible bidder that's specified in the bid tabulation. 377 00:32:01,430 --> 00:32:02,390 I'll second that. 378 00:32:03,690 --> 00:32:06,790 And just to clarify that most bidder is RGM construction. 379 00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:10,150 Yes, Joel. 380 00:32:10,550 --> 00:32:10,590 Yep. 381 00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:10,930 Okay. 382 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:12,850 So we have a motion in a second. 383 00:32:13,510 --> 00:32:14,810 Any other questions or comments? 384 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Since there's none, let's go forwards our vote. 385 00:32:20,380 --> 00:32:23,480 All in favor to approve the order of the contract to RGM construction? 386 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,080 Say aye. 387 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:24,720 Aye. 388 00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:25,720 Opposed? 389 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,040 Motion carries. 390 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,500 Item 8A is approved. 391 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,680 It takes us in to nine, which is closed session, I'll make a motion to go on a closed session. 392 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,180 I got a second from Mark, and we'll go through roll call to go into closed session. 393 00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:43,140 Mark Strobel. 394 00:32:43,460 --> 00:32:43,580 Aye. 395 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,500 To Ryan. 396 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:45,080 Aye. 397 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:45,680 Inputers. 398 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,100 Aye. 399 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:46,760 Dean Coverson. 400 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,040 Aye. 401 00:32:47,620 --> 00:32:48,240 Anderson's and aye. 402 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:50,900 We're going to go on a closed session. 403 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:51,940 Thanks, Corey. 404 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:52,600 Thanks, Sarah. 405 00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:53,400 Have a good night. 406 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,420 meetings? 407 00:33:03,890 --> 00:33:10,110 Just a reminder that our open doors. Yep, just a reminder that our meeting next week 408 00:33:11,230 --> 00:33:16,630 Monday at five o'clock, just that workshop with the planning commission and HKGi folks and the 409 00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:23,050 next town board meeting will be on Monday, September 14th. Okay, 410 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:34,580 I just would like everybody to be at that 411 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:36,020 Some of our discusses tonight 412 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,180 Yeah, we've got a lot of vision 413 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Planning stuff that we need to get a head off. 414 00:33:45,450 --> 00:33:47,050 All right motion to adjourn 415 00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:52,420 Joe and Ryan all in favor to adjourn say aye. All right 416 00:33:55,210 --> 00:33:57,510 It was Mark not I'm Joe Ryan 417 00:33:58,850 --> 00:34:00,090 You said Joe and Ryan 418 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:07,770 It's alright to call Joel Greg sometimes and he'll come out at me but you're the best 419 00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:08,050 I can. 420 00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:09,870 He's a journey 20 p.m.