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Thank you.

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There are a couple of members
who were off this trial

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traveling.

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So there are a few people who
may be joining us remotely

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Councilmember johnston,
would you please lead

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us in the pledge of Allegiance?

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OK.

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Good bye out of the
United States of America

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and to the Republic for which
it stands, One nation under God

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indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

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Thank you The first part
of business is approval

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of the minutes Are there any
corrections to the August

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3rd 20 26 minutes ?

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Council member stall may have a
motion to approve the minutes.

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Mr. Mayor, I'm having trouble
pulling up the script.

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Could somebody else do
that for me instead?

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Please?

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Certainly.

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I move to approve
the August 3rd,

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2026, regular meeting minutes
as submitted We have a second.

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Thank you, Madam
deputy City Clerk.

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Please call the vote I'm sorry.

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Who is the second on that?

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Nelson Thank you
Council member Johnston.

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Yes.

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Council Member Nelson Yes.

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Council Member.

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Doyle.

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Yes.

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Council Member.

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Stall Yes Council Member.

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Wisner Yeah.

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Council member.

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Metzger Council Member.

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Schneiderman Yes.

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And Council member Nicole is
not logged in at this time.

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The member Barnicle
is right here.

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Yes, she's present.

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Can you hear?

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Yes, Thank you.

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The motion passes Thank you
Public comment is limited

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to a discussion of items
that are not on the council

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agenda for a total of 15 minutes
and set forth in the printed

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agenda which also provides
that anyone wish to speak

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will be limited to three
minutes per person.

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I will call on those who signed
the public comment sheet first

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We have one person signed
up Hilary Chen would

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you please come forward
and give us your name

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and address for the record
Oh, it's my first time doing

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this mine to One of my
name is Hilary ching C g

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And I'm here on behalf of
my parents, who are at 43,

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98, South Alton Street
Is that what you need it?

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Whoever it was asking
you may proceed.

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OK Well, I am actually
here to discuss the measure

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on the green with
the village greens

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park parking lot expansion for
triggering high school I'm just.

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I know that I'm probably
late to the game,

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but I would just like
to speak my piece.

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I'm here As a
Cherry Creek alumni,

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I'm here and against the
village green park expansion.

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And I wanted to talk about
three small but mighty things

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Oh oh, okay First, I wanted
to talk about inconvenience

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because I do feel like we have
forgotten the value of being

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inconvenienced We live in a
culture that treats friction

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as a problem to be engineered
away with same day delivery Door

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to door.

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Everything And we've
gotten so good at removing

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small inconveniences that we've
started to treat any convenience

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as an immediate emergency
requiring correction

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So when we're asked to
permanent remove a park

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or remove a park for ten years
past, most of your ten years,

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I think to save 190 students and
inconvenience of parking It's

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a big ask.

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It's okay for students
to ride the school

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bus to carpool to bike
ride or to walk to school.

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So I'd ask this board to
consider if this is actually

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a parking problem
or we can't tolerate

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a small intervening problem
because only one of these

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requires us to bulldoze a
space I'd also ask if we could

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publicly make known the safety
studies that were involved

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for this parking measure.

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We're asking 198
new teens to come

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in and out of a really small
nook in our community in a.

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That was never built
for that type of volume.

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16 and 17 year olds
have, without a doubt,

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the highest crash rate of
any age group in this nation.

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So I would like that
to be considered

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for the safety of our
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would like to know if there were
environmental impact studies

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done for this parking measure
We're asking in the middle

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of a drought in the.

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You know, we're we're
under 20% water restriction

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zones to rip out grass and
trees natural resources

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for our beautiful community,
things that are cooling our air

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and recharging groundwater
This isn't just about a park.

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It's a health measure and a
public safety consideration

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If you look at any city in
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that people want to live in, you
will not find them tearing out

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a park to build a parking
lot Look at any strong school

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district a school district.

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Our kids would be proud
to attend that are

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doing just the opposite.

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They're creating adding
parks, protecting green spaces

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because we know it's an asset
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we will not get back.

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Greenwood Village, as
progressive as we say we are,

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should be moving in
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Thank you Thank you
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there's no comments, bye.

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Would just like to let you know
that that park is not owned

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by the city It is owned by
this is due by the Cherry Creek

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School District And so the
Cherry Creek School District

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is the proprietor
and made the decision

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that they were
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from Parkland to a parking lot.

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Current we are publicly
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So i would think that
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in unfortunately not.

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You know it Is there anyone
here who would like also like

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to speak that did not sign up
and moving on council will now

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conduct a quasi judicial
hearing regarding

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cases number of dash 20 6-00017
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For a special use permit
and site development plan

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for Grace chapel to repurpose
an existing building and parking

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lot for a place of worship
and Event Center at 8500

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East Orchard Road Copies of
the public hearing procedure

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are on the table outside
the entrance of the room.

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The council will hear and
consider any testimony

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or evidence presented.

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Those desiring to
speak should have

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sign their names on the sign
in sheet, which i now have.

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I remind everyone that they will
be sworn in before testifying

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Will the City Attorney
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the question of the
Council's jurisdiction

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and to conduct this hearing?

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Thank you, Mayor
I have before me

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an affidavit labeled as
exhibit A, which indicates

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that a notice of the
date, time, place

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and purpose of this hearing, as
published on the city's website,

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at least 15 days
preceding this hearing

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as required by the Greenwood
village Municipal Code and i.

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Offer into evidence
that affidavit

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as proof of such publication
publication of such notice.

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Secondly I have before me an
affidavit indicating that notice

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of this hearing was also posted
on the property for a period

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of at least 15 continuous
days prior to this hearing

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and offer that affidavit it into
evidence as Exhibit B Third.

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I have before me an affidavit of
mailing indicating that notice

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of the date, time, place,
and purpose of this hearing

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was also sent by mail
to property owners

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as outlined in the municipal
code of the city Per This type

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of application and at least
15 days prior to this hearing

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And offer into evidence
that affidavit as Exhibit

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C from my examination of
the file and the documents

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mentioned just now,
it's my opinion

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that the Council has
jurisdiction to proceed

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with this public hearing.

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Thank you.

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Mr. City Attorney.

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Exhibits A, B, and c are
accepting that evidence

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and are made a part of
the record of this hearing

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And I asked the
city's representative

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to describe the request
location of the property

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and provide any other pertinent
information before the applicant

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presents their case I request
that the city council hold

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any questions until after
the applicant completes

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their presentation Would you
please introduce yourself

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and give us your address?

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Grady Timmerman 66
South Quebec Street,

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Greenwood village, Colorado.

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80111.

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Which can only Do you
swear to tell the truth,

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the whole truth I do.

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Thank you.

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Please proceed.

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Thank you.

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Honorable Mayor and
members of City Council.

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I'm grady Timmerman, planner to.

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And tonight I will be presenting
case number 26 dash 17 and 26.

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DoorDash 26.

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Especially use permit and site
own plan at 8500 East Orchard

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Road, the applicant is Doug
Spiller with Back architecture,

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the applicant is requesting
a special use permit and site

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development plan to allow
Grace Chapel to establish

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a place of worship use with an
auditorium sized to allow up

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to a thousand seats in the
existing building 8500 East

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Orchard Road is the
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and current booth farm The
zoning in their properties

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mixed commercial and is
located in their state

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corner planning area.

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The Comprehensive Plan adjacent
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south and east are also zoned.

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AMC adjacent uses
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Office and Research
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Here are some site photos.

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And so the existing conditions
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of the boot barn with
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is taken while looking south,
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was taken.

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We're looking east
The existing building

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is proposed to be repurposed
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modifications.

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The building will be repaired
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will an entry will be installed
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be constructed to screen roof
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Board identifies terracotta
tiles, corrugated steel, roof

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decking, painted
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glazing The proposed landscaping
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across five species to
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that will be retained More
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An evergreen shrub plantings are
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of the new trash
enclosure Open space

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is proposed to nearly
double with an increase

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from 10.9% to 20%.

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Moving on to lighting the
Photometric plan in the Esdp

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meets all the requirements of
the MDP and lBC with respect

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to height color, temperature,
and brightness Next,

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we have access and parking The
subject property is access from

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the existing drive accesses
along south Wabash Way per

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section 16 dash 21 5:30 places
of worship require one parking

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space per for seats in the
sanctuary The proposal includes

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250 standard spaces win 250 is
required by the LDC and they are

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proposing five accessible spaces
regarding traffic impacts That

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is not anticipating any
significant impacts to traffic

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due to offset peak
travel times Public

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works staff completed a review
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And concurs with the methodology
assumptions and conclusions

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presented.

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Staff finds that the proposed
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by the existing and planned
transportation network

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and does not require
transportation mitigation

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beyond improvements
already identified

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as a part of the city's long
range transportation planning

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efforts Regarding the aCP review
criteria for the development

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of the site, as was outlined
in the staff report staff

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finds all four of the criteria
in the affirmative Staff

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finds that places of worship
are a use permitted in the mixed

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commercial zone district in
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permit and staff finds that
the proposal provides improved

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landscaping and open
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d C's ratio for the
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capacity with the required
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Buildings setbacks, far
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and renovated building elevate
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equipment consistent with
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of the ALDC regarding
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as was outlined in the staff
report staff on all five

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of the criteria in
the affirmative Staff

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finds that the request to
repurpose the existing building

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for a place of worship is
consistent with the interstate

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planning area's vision of a mix
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institutional and civic uses.

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This would be classified as
an institutional use Next step

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finds the development to be
compatible with surrounding

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commercial the surrounding,
commercial and office contacts

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with active activity
occurring outside

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of the employment districts.

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Business hours Staff also finds
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its impacts to those
as there is no change

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to building height or massing.

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So view corridors
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and property value should
be positively impacted

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by the renovation
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with the substantial
improvement to site

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landscaping and open space.

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Lastly, staff finds
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is in conformance with
the standards set forth

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in the MGP and the general
development objectives set forth

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in the site and design
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C based on the review criteria.

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Findings staff recommends
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approve the ACP in step
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to 70 F. City council.

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So determine whether the ACP
sale be transferable to other

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owners and shall make such
determination on a condition

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of approval and
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the planning zoning Commission
recommended approval for both

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the ACP and a steep
Thank you for your time,

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and I will now turn
it over to Doug

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Spiller for his presentation.

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Staff will remain available
for questions Thank

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you Would you please
give us your name

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and address for the record?

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Yes, my name is Doug
Spieler Excuse me.

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A tenant on 17th Street,
Suite P L Hundreds in Denver.

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80202 Coy Williams
Address is 6200.

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South Syracuse way
Suite 308 Greenwood

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village 80111 East Where to
tell the truth All truth.

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Yes, sir Please proceed We did
do Josh to Can we swear in One

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more member of our project team
who certainly can do that now

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or later, if he gets Good
evening Good to see you again,

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Council mayor.

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And in Joshua island, 1199
91 to run court and luxury

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Colorado to swear
to tell the truth.

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The whole truth.

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I swear to tell the
truth Thank you.

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Please proceed.

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Proceed Gentlemen
Thank you, Will.

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Good evening.

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Distinguished members of this
city council, as mentioned

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my name is Doug Spieler,
representing back But

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more importantly is the
applicant on behalf of Grace

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Chapel tonight, along with my
consulting partner, Coy Williams

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and Kimberly Horn, we
promise to provide a brief

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and I'll emphasize brief
overview of the project.

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And really are very prepared
to answer questions.

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We first wish to thank the
Greenwood village staff as we

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began this journey
together over 13 months ago

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throughout the entire
process, they have been.

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Simply wonderful to work with.

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And we greatly
appreciate their efforts,

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most namely grady Timmerman,
Derek sturtz and Derek Holcomb

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at this time.

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Again, we'd like to
reintroduce Pastor Josh Weidman

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senior pastor of
Grace Chapel, who

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provided good of an overview.

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Before we get into
our present please.

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It's great to be with you,
and I'm excited to talk

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to you about this project.

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I grew up in South Denver.

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I was born in Air Force Academy
base as a baby in Abilene, Texas

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But Denver is what I know
and i love South Denver.

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And I remember as a child
driving on the highway

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looking at the shuffler sign
and remembering this building

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with my brother in the back
of our old Dodge minivan,

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thinking, what's
it like in there?

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That's where the Cowboys go.

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And especially that
simpler sign that

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is still iconic to this day.

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I never thought I'd
be standing here

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tonight before a city council
thinking that we'd be doing

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something in that building.

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But I'm excited for what we
plan to do in that building,

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and I'm hopeful that
you'll support us

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in this venture I want
to tell you a little bit

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about who we are as a church.

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I want to tell you
what we're about

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And I want I want to explain
to you why we believe

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that this building
is the best building

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for our future ministry.

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Great job.

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It was founded in
1979, in south Denver.

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We were started in the
mortuary and then soon

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bought our building in 1985.

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Outgrew that After
building the second story,

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moved back into a
school and through one

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of the purchase of a property.

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And finally ended
up at our property.

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We've been there since 1995.

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Located at 8505 South Valley
Highway just off the highway

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across from Park Meadows on the
other the east side of I-25 We

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understand what it's like
to be on the highway We also

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understand what it's like to
rehabilitate an old building We

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bought an old car
dealership, almost

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the same square footage Our
current property is 85,000ft².

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And it was the low paying
property as a car dealership

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far before Park
Meadows broke ground.

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We actually moved in the
year that they broke ground.

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We have been there
for over 30 years.

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And we have a design
here to serve South

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Denver That's why we exist.

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We're almost 50 years old as
a church or non-denominational

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or a Bible teaching church.

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And our mission is simple.

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It's to lead people to find and
follow Jesus That's why we exist

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But we don't want
to just focus inward

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We don't just
focus on our people

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But we know the Bible commands
us to love our neighbors

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and we take that
command very seriously

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And we would love to
join Greenwood Village

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and love on this city and love
on the people that are here.

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What does it look like for
us to love our neighbors?

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Well, for 45 years
we've been doing

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that with quite
a bit of practice

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We've partnered with Douglas
County, the Maine county

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that we've been in for almost
the whole of our existence,

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especially on our
current property.

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We serve those in need.

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We've provided space for their
police departments and fire

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departments to do drills and
have meetings Six years ago,

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I was able to found
a ANU Counseling

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center, a free
counseling center,

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to help those with mental health
issues at no cost to anyone

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in the community Anyone can
apply for free counseling

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at our counseling center
for our apartment neighbors.

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We've held taco truck nights,
free community nights for them,

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welcome gifts for residents who
are moving into the apartments

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and for the public.

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We've continued to do
festivals and events that

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love on the public and make
this a place where people

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like to come and feel welcomed.

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I also think you should
know that over 20%

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of our budget,
everything that comes in

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goes right back out our doors.

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We spend it on the community
or we spend it on efforts

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worldwide to impact people
We've loved doing that

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for Douglas County
but I would love to do

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that for Greenwood Village.

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We would love to be here
and to love on your people

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I love to take an old
landmark and give it new life,

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and that's been an
important building building.

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I remember, like I said,
since i was a child.

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So it was has history has
been a part of this community.

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And we would love to bring
something to that space

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for the next generation.

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Think of it like taking
a sports historic space

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and giving it some
kind of holy purpose.

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Our vision is not just a
Sunday space for gathering.

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We want to build a place
where Greenwood Village would

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be served Seven days a week.

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We want to have a public coffee
shop that's open for people

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to come in to work in
for co-working space,

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for other business
people, residents,

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commuters, professionals.

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We want to still offer a free
counseling center continuing

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to do the work that
we've been doing,

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counseling people for free,
helping people in crisis.

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So that's our heart.

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And then we want to still have
community events and service

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projects, things that we
love on local businesses

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and the local residents.

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Again, we've been visible
on i-25 for 30 years.

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We know what it's like to be
kind of the face of a community

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on the highway across from
a prominent shopping mall

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and we believe that we
can do that even better

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We're located on the
highway in Greenwood Village

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and represent this city.

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Well.

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I've taken time to
study your core values.

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I see your core
values of quality

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of life and economic vitality,
thoughtful development

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And we believe that
we can contribute

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to all Three of these things.

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Our coffee shop.

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And our counseling
center will provide

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practical support to people.

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Obviously But then
people that will come

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will support the
local businesses.

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We believe that our
events will enhance

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not detract from
the neighborhood

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We want it to enhance it.

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Again, we bring 30 years
of being of experience,

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of being in a highly
visible location,

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and we want to take
all that we've learned

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and use it here in
this place Also,

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this community has been a
village, has been a launching

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pad to worldwide business
containing headquarters

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for major major companies.

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Think about empower or
Red Robin or you have some

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of these other big companies
that have launched from here,

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we want to be a launching place,
a headquarters of sorts We're

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not here to build
a megachurch I've

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worked for a large
megachurch in Chicago.

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I don't want to
host that I don't

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want to be the pastor of that.

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But i'd rather be as
headquartered the plants

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churches all over the world,
perhaps at least nationally

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And we think that we can do
that with this being kind

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of our headquarters and
a ministry that reaches

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other people One more thing
that I want to mention

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is the Grace Chapel
has been debt free.

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When I took the pastorate
in 2015, we did have that.

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I made it my goal
to make us debt

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free within the first two
years, we did it less than that.

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And we plan to stay.

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Debt free the best we can.

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Just like greenwood Village,
I know that we're not a tax

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income revenue source for you.

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I understand that.

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But I believe that
what we will bring

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will be better than
any tax revenue You're

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a wealthy county wealthy city.

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You've been able to
live like us that free

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and have money in the bank.

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I think what we will
bring to you will

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be far greater than anything
the tax revenue could bring

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at this location
I promise you we

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won't be a burden We
want to be a blessing

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and i know that change can
feel uncertain for the church

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on the highway as a face of
your city could feel uncertain.

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But i want you to know this.

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We're not here to
disrupt community.

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We're here to enhance it
We're here to serve you.

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And I hope as the senior leader
of this church, that we will i

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will say we will do
everything we can to make sure

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that Greenwood village is
an even better place to live

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with better quality of
life, not just on Sundays,

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but every single day.

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Because Grace Chapel
calls it our home.

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So thank You.

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And we'd love the chance
to be in your city.

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Thank you thank
you, Pastor Weidman.

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I also have a very
brief anecdote

495
00:25:31,637 --> 00:25:33,647
and just wanted to
share personally

496
00:25:33,647 --> 00:25:37,667
that in 1980, my family and I
moved here to Colorado from New

497
00:25:37,667 --> 00:25:42,257
Jersey Yes, New Jersey
Hey, as an 11 year old,

498
00:25:42,257 --> 00:25:46,547
I remember vividly getting
my very first cowboy hat.

499
00:25:46,547 --> 00:25:48,977
We got it from shoppers.

500
00:25:48,977 --> 00:25:52,127
46 years later, as an
architect, what an honor

501
00:25:52,127 --> 00:25:54,047
it is to be in front of
you all this evening.

502
00:25:54,047 --> 00:25:57,437
And this fine community
to help breathe new life

503
00:25:57,437 --> 00:26:02,537
into this old landmark again.

504
00:26:02,537 --> 00:26:05,841
We promised that we
would remain brief.

505
00:26:05,841 --> 00:26:11,177
This evening We did want to
begin to to at least address

506
00:26:11,177 --> 00:26:13,907
this revitalization
project, which we believe

507
00:26:13,907 --> 00:26:16,007
meets the intent of
the comprehensive plan

508
00:26:16,007 --> 00:26:18,887
goals for Greenwood Village.

509
00:26:18,887 --> 00:26:21,797
In summation, number one,
to promote and maintain

510
00:26:21,797 --> 00:26:23,387
safety and security.

511
00:26:23,387 --> 00:26:26,237
This project will
enhance community safety

512
00:26:26,237 --> 00:26:28,157
by putting more
eyes on the street

513
00:26:28,157 --> 00:26:31,397
As Pastor Josh mentioned through
the coffee shop and counseling

514
00:26:31,397 --> 00:26:33,587
center in particular.

515
00:26:33,587 --> 00:26:36,197
Number two, to promote
well-maintained built

516
00:26:36,197 --> 00:26:37,877
natural environments,
this project

517
00:26:37,877 --> 00:26:40,277
will renovate the
built environment

518
00:26:40,277 --> 00:26:43,517
and increase the
natural environment.

519
00:26:43,517 --> 00:26:45,409
Number three, to
promote high quality

520
00:26:45,409 --> 00:26:47,957
aesthetic this
project will enhance

521
00:26:47,957 --> 00:26:51,377
the aesthetic quality
by building and adding

522
00:26:51,377 --> 00:26:53,267
glazing to the front facade.

523
00:26:53,267 --> 00:26:56,357
The West facade and essentially
opening the building up

524
00:26:56,357 --> 00:26:58,457
to the community.

525
00:26:58,457 --> 00:27:02,447
Fourthly, to present promote
learning opportunities

526
00:27:02,447 --> 00:27:05,657
This project will provide Dale
key learning opportunities

527
00:27:05,657 --> 00:27:07,607
in a variety of programming.

528
00:27:07,607 --> 00:27:11,597
Really as a community
resource Fifth, to promote

529
00:27:11,597 --> 00:27:13,427
and accessible village.

530
00:27:13,427 --> 00:27:16,513
This project will enhance the
accessibility both of the site.

531
00:27:16,513 --> 00:27:18,797
And of the existing building.

532
00:27:18,797 --> 00:27:23,057
And then lastly, to promote
responsive stewardship.

533
00:27:23,057 --> 00:27:27,467
This project will display
stewardship and sustainability

534
00:27:27,467 --> 00:27:30,647
by its nature as an
adaptive reuse building

535
00:27:30,647 --> 00:27:32,837
the most green building
that we can build

536
00:27:32,837 --> 00:27:34,817
is the one that we renovate.

537
00:27:34,817 --> 00:27:37,517
And again, we're proposing
this renovation not only of

538
00:27:37,517 --> 00:27:40,613
the building and parking
lot for church use,

539
00:27:40,613 --> 00:27:44,117
but again, in the
spirit of this church

540
00:27:44,117 --> 00:27:47,327
being deeply community,
facing nearly every part

541
00:27:47,327 --> 00:27:50,422
of this proposed project would
be used to serve the growth,

542
00:27:50,422 --> 00:27:54,917
the broader public, not just for
religious gatherings but also

543
00:27:54,917 --> 00:28:04,757
for practical include some
purposes throughout the week

544
00:28:04,757 --> 00:28:07,007
and ducted did a great
job of outlining,

545
00:28:07,007 --> 00:28:08,477
but wanted to highlight
some of the site

546
00:28:08,477 --> 00:28:11,087
development plan and
special use permit criteria.

547
00:28:11,087 --> 00:28:13,967
So as we look at the site
development plan criteria

548
00:28:13,967 --> 00:28:17,717
for the code 16 to 50,
whether the development is

549
00:28:17,717 --> 00:28:20,237
in conformance with
the comprehensive plan,

550
00:28:20,237 --> 00:28:23,117
as mentioned previously, we
do believe that it will foster

551
00:28:23,117 --> 00:28:26,267
community for residents
As an owner and operator

552
00:28:26,267 --> 00:28:29,447
the Church does take great pride
in the landscape and the upkeep

553
00:28:29,447 --> 00:28:30,737
of their building.

554
00:28:30,737 --> 00:28:33,407
They are not Alessi
or tenant operator,

555
00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:35,597
so they do take great
pride in the upkeep of it.

556
00:28:35,597 --> 00:28:39,587
They have a great ground crew
staff that that does a great job

557
00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:41,537
And then lastly, to promote
leisure and learning

558
00:28:41,537 --> 00:28:43,847
opportunities by welcoming
people into the building

559
00:28:43,847 --> 00:28:45,257
through a coffee shop.

560
00:28:45,257 --> 00:28:47,837
I personally work in the
village and we utilize a coffee

561
00:28:47,837 --> 00:28:49,982
shop that's that
is in the St Thomas

562
00:28:49,982 --> 00:28:52,097
More building almost daily.

563
00:28:52,097 --> 00:28:55,542
So it is a huge amenity for
folks that work in the village,

564
00:28:55,542 --> 00:28:56,460
something that residents.

565
00:28:56,460 --> 00:29:00,197
I think would really
resonate with.

566
00:29:00,197 --> 00:29:01,916
Second, whether the
development is compatible

567
00:29:01,916 --> 00:29:03,563
with the surrounding land uses.

568
00:29:03,563 --> 00:29:05,867
SF mentioned the surrounding
land uses are primarily

569
00:29:05,867 --> 00:29:08,687
office buildings high
density residential

570
00:29:08,687 --> 00:29:11,327
and we believe that this
fits in really well with that

571
00:29:11,327 --> 00:29:13,997
welcoming in the
community Third,

572
00:29:13,997 --> 00:29:16,037
whether the development
adequately mitigates,

573
00:29:16,037 --> 00:29:17,807
mitigates any adverse impact.

574
00:29:17,807 --> 00:29:20,657
It causes including without
limitation, adverse impacts

575
00:29:20,657 --> 00:29:23,387
on traffic view corridors
noise, property values

576
00:29:23,387 --> 00:29:26,159
and the provision of
public services as stone,

577
00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:28,697
as shown in the traffic study
prepared by Kimberly Horn.

578
00:29:28,697 --> 00:29:31,097
The traffic impacts do
not trigger any proposed

579
00:29:31,097 --> 00:29:33,677
improvements on
the roadway Network

580
00:29:33,677 --> 00:29:35,897
and the surrounding
roadway Network maintains

581
00:29:35,897 --> 00:29:38,417
acceptable levels of service.

582
00:29:38,417 --> 00:29:41,767
One access point on the
northwest corner of the property

583
00:29:41,767 --> 00:29:43,937
was deemed unsafe
during the review

584
00:29:43,937 --> 00:29:46,967
and is actually being removed as
part of the project due to site

585
00:29:46,967 --> 00:29:50,567
visibility triangles Fourth,
whether the development is

586
00:29:50,567 --> 00:29:52,577
in conformance with the
development criteria

587
00:29:52,577 --> 00:29:55,607
restrictions and standards
set forth in the MDP,

588
00:29:55,607 --> 00:29:58,397
the restrictions by
the Dtcc have been met

589
00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:00,557
and we have been granted
a landscape variance

590
00:30:00,557 --> 00:30:03,167
by them from 30 down to 20%.

591
00:30:03,167 --> 00:30:05,897
We are more than doubling
the landscape percentage

592
00:30:05,897 --> 00:30:07,967
though on the property.

593
00:30:07,967 --> 00:30:09,527
Fifth, whether
the development is

594
00:30:09,527 --> 00:30:12,792
in conformance with the
general development objectives

595
00:30:12,792 --> 00:30:15,647
objections, objectives,
and six 2120

596
00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:18,827
are met with no requests
or modifications.

597
00:30:18,827 --> 00:30:20,387
Disruption to the
existing terrain.

598
00:30:20,387 --> 00:30:21,917
As Doug mentioned is minimized.

599
00:30:21,917 --> 00:30:24,257
We have reduced the disturbed
area to less than one

600
00:30:24,257 --> 00:30:27,977
acre outside of the building
and we are keeping the existing

601
00:30:27,977 --> 00:30:30,677
building pedestrian pedestrian
circulation is improved

602
00:30:30,677 --> 00:30:35,507
within the site by improving ADA
accessibility sidewalks exterior

603
00:30:35,507 --> 00:30:38,957
landscaping is upgraded and the
building is significant Enhanced

604
00:30:38,957 --> 00:30:41,117
with the revised architecture.

605
00:30:41,117 --> 00:30:44,747
Sixth, in cases involve
parcels with 1 or 2

606
00:30:44,747 --> 00:30:46,667
where either the parks trails
and Recreation Commission

607
00:30:46,667 --> 00:30:48,527
has reviewed the proposal.

608
00:30:48,527 --> 00:30:50,357
The property is
not zoned o 1 or 2,

609
00:30:50,357 --> 00:30:54,407
so it is not applicable next
to the special use permit.

610
00:30:54,407 --> 00:30:54,947
Appreciate it.

611
00:30:54,947 --> 00:30:58,487
Is generally very similar
criteria but number one

612
00:30:58,487 --> 00:31:00,869
is expressly allowed is
a special use district.

613
00:31:00,869 --> 00:31:03,227
A place of worship is expressly
allowed as a special use

614
00:31:03,227 --> 00:31:06,407
district in the AMC
zone District Second

615
00:31:06,407 --> 00:31:08,177
is compatible with the
surrounding land uses.

616
00:31:08,177 --> 00:31:10,937
As we mentioned, it is high
density residential primarily

617
00:31:10,937 --> 00:31:13,997
with office and we believe
that we do fit in very well

618
00:31:13,997 --> 00:31:16,217
with the surrounding land uses.

619
00:31:16,217 --> 00:31:19,427
Third, adequately mitigates
adverse impact to its causes,

620
00:31:19,427 --> 00:31:22,367
including without limitation and
adverse impacts on traffic view

621
00:31:22,367 --> 00:31:24,377
corridors, noise, property
values and the provision

622
00:31:24,377 --> 00:31:27,017
of public services as
previously mentioned,

623
00:31:27,017 --> 00:31:30,047
the traffic study does not
show any proposed improvements

624
00:31:30,047 --> 00:31:32,264
required The Roadway
Network maintains

625
00:31:32,264 --> 00:31:33,522
acceptable levels of service.

626
00:31:33,522 --> 00:31:35,327
And we are closing
the one access

627
00:31:35,327 --> 00:31:37,637
point due to safety concerns.

628
00:31:37,637 --> 00:31:40,247
And fourth is properly designed
with regard to landscaping,

629
00:31:40,247 --> 00:31:42,467
open space, parking
setbacks and building

630
00:31:42,467 --> 00:31:44,387
elevations and objectives.

631
00:31:44,387 --> 00:31:48,167
In 16 2120 are met with no
requests for modifications,

632
00:31:48,167 --> 00:31:49,697
disruption of the
existing terrain

633
00:31:49,697 --> 00:31:52,770
is minimized
Landscaping has almost

634
00:31:52,770 --> 00:31:55,217
been doubled across the
entire property with

635
00:31:55,217 --> 00:31:56,987
enhanced landscaping across.

636
00:31:56,987 --> 00:31:59,357
While we are also trying to
maintain the existing tree

637
00:31:59,357 --> 00:32:03,917
canopy where possible for the
trees that are in good health

638
00:32:03,917 --> 00:32:06,197
And lastly, the building
design to significantly enhance

639
00:32:06,197 --> 00:32:07,337
with revised architecture.

640
00:32:07,337 --> 00:32:15,707
I will turn it back over to
Doug for site conditions Again,

641
00:32:15,707 --> 00:32:17,717
our emphasis tonight
is, to be brief.

642
00:32:17,717 --> 00:32:20,327
Will spend the next
couple of minutes

643
00:32:20,327 --> 00:32:22,937
just talking a little bit about
the specifics of the project

644
00:32:22,937 --> 00:32:28,097
here First of all, just looking
here at the existing conditions

645
00:32:28,097 --> 00:32:31,667
sites are obviously bounded
on I-25 to the west Wabash

646
00:32:31,667 --> 00:32:33,617
to the north and
willow to the east.

647
00:32:33,617 --> 00:32:38,777
It's approximately 4.8
acres, about 210,000ft².

648
00:32:38,777 --> 00:32:40,907
And again, as Corey mentioned,
we believe that the current

649
00:32:40,907 --> 00:32:44,597
access points and general
site circulation flow are very

650
00:32:44,597 --> 00:32:47,777
conducive to this new
proposed use As mentioned,

651
00:32:47,777 --> 00:32:53,297
we are intending to close the
north West access point finally,

652
00:32:53,297 --> 00:32:56,627
as a survey also indicates,
the site contains one single

653
00:32:56,627 --> 00:33:01,097
building of approximately
59,000ft² and three and three

654
00:33:01,097 --> 00:33:11,537
parking stalls There goes from a
landscape planning standpoint we

655
00:33:11,537 --> 00:33:15,977
propose to increase the
landscape areas and and the open

656
00:33:15,977 --> 00:33:20,567
space and essentially reduce
the parking count to 250 stalls.

657
00:33:20,567 --> 00:33:23,747
We believe that this count does
adequately meet the city parking

658
00:33:23,747 --> 00:33:26,297
requirements of one space
for every four seats

659
00:33:26,297 --> 00:33:27,497
in the sanctuary.

660
00:33:27,497 --> 00:33:32,267
And again, right now, church is
targeting a 1000 seat capacity.

661
00:33:32,267 --> 00:33:36,840
So the 250 stalls do
meet the city code

662
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,517
And then, of note is the large
green space to the northeast

663
00:33:40,517 --> 00:33:43,517
A new notable
playground right really

664
00:33:43,517 --> 00:33:49,367
at the front door of the
building from an open space

665
00:33:49,367 --> 00:33:51,467
planning standpoint,
as we mentioned,

666
00:33:51,467 --> 00:33:56,057
the additional landscape areas
to be added, which we believe

667
00:33:56,057 --> 00:33:59,687
are again, going to slightly
exceed the 20% open space

668
00:33:59,687 --> 00:34:01,187
requirements.

669
00:34:01,187 --> 00:34:02,927
And again, we will
actually be more

670
00:34:02,927 --> 00:34:08,177
than doubling the current open
space just under ten, 10.9%.

671
00:34:08,177 --> 00:34:12,197
Currently, additional Lee We
are well below the parking max

672
00:34:12,197 --> 00:34:21,737
coverage of 40% as we
are just barely at 22

673
00:34:21,737 --> 00:34:24,137
As we move into the
floor plan diagram

674
00:34:24,137 --> 00:34:27,815
terms as you'll well
be aware, the site

675
00:34:27,815 --> 00:34:29,363
falls from west to east.

676
00:34:29,363 --> 00:34:32,327
And it does provide
a very nice grid

677
00:34:32,327 --> 00:34:34,907
condition here on the
east side of the project.

678
00:34:34,907 --> 00:34:38,957
Looking at the lower level, we
do intend to remove the existing

679
00:34:38,957 --> 00:34:41,627
dark That existing
dock was never

680
00:34:41,627 --> 00:34:43,315
part of the original
construction

681
00:34:43,315 --> 00:34:45,887
and does not fit
aesthetically in ten.

682
00:34:45,887 --> 00:34:49,847
Instead, we intend to replace
it with a staff entrance

683
00:34:49,847 --> 00:34:53,807
and you'll see in our elevations
is a nice addition of glazing

684
00:34:53,807 --> 00:35:01,056
in its place The main
floor of the building

685
00:35:01,056 --> 00:35:04,817
is really the reactivation
of the of this main floor

686
00:35:04,817 --> 00:35:09,407
to both enhance security
and community We're locating

687
00:35:09,407 --> 00:35:13,217
the sanctuary right in the
heart of the floor plate

688
00:35:13,217 --> 00:35:16,907
allowing classrooms
along the east side

689
00:35:16,907 --> 00:35:21,467
to the administrative space and
counseling space in the read up

690
00:35:21,467 --> 00:35:23,177
along the north and west.

691
00:35:23,177 --> 00:35:27,887
And again the coffee shop
in the lower left which

692
00:35:27,887 --> 00:35:36,107
would be that southwest corner
as the roof plan indicates,

693
00:35:36,107 --> 00:35:39,107
we do intend to maintain
the existing building.

694
00:35:39,107 --> 00:35:43,367
The roof plan is showing new
and replaced mechanical screens

695
00:35:43,367 --> 00:35:50,597
around all existing equipment
as part of our commitment

696
00:35:50,597 --> 00:35:54,677
to high quality, aesthetic
we propose new windows

697
00:35:54,677 --> 00:35:58,007
along the north facade
and a substantial amount

698
00:35:58,007 --> 00:36:02,657
of glazing storefront glazing
So wide open stretches of glass

699
00:36:02,657 --> 00:36:06,317
along that western facade And
again, to allow the building

700
00:36:06,317 --> 00:36:09,167
to just be more approachable
and more outward

701
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:14,627
facing as we move around
to the south facade

702
00:36:14,627 --> 00:36:16,457
again, much like we
were doing on the north,

703
00:36:16,457 --> 00:36:18,977
we proposed to
refinish the existing

704
00:36:18,977 --> 00:36:22,727
herringbone wood accent, which
wraps around the east facade

705
00:36:22,727 --> 00:36:23,777
as well,

706
00:36:23,777 --> 00:36:27,047
and the lower image shows the
east facade with new windows

707
00:36:27,047 --> 00:36:33,317
and that new storefront
added for the staff entrance

708
00:36:33,317 --> 00:36:37,157
for a materials standpoint, we
work very closely with staff as

709
00:36:37,157 --> 00:36:41,357
well as the Dtcc See HCC
to propose and maintain

710
00:36:41,357 --> 00:36:43,667
the existing terracotta
roof elements

711
00:36:43,667 --> 00:36:48,707
and essentially repaint much of
the remaining existing exterior

712
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:51,737
We do plan to bring all
signage in to conform

713
00:36:51,737 --> 00:36:54,407
since with the current code
and look forward to working

714
00:36:54,407 --> 00:36:58,907
with staff and the Dtsc
SEC to finalize exterior

715
00:36:58,907 --> 00:37:06,557
signage Finally, as these
renderings show, we do intend

716
00:37:06,557 --> 00:37:11,327
to breathe new life into this
old landmark repositioning it

717
00:37:11,327 --> 00:37:15,527
as a vibrant community resource
We're really pleased to present

718
00:37:15,527 --> 00:37:16,097
this project,

719
00:37:16,097 --> 00:37:19,217
which we believe meets the
intent of the comprehensive plan

720
00:37:19,217 --> 00:37:21,587
for Greenwood Village
And finally, we

721
00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:24,497
want to emphasize that
we are requesting zero

722
00:37:24,497 --> 00:37:28,217
variances and zero exceptions.

723
00:37:28,217 --> 00:37:30,767
We do look forward to working
very closely with Greenwood

724
00:37:30,767 --> 00:37:33,917
Village to help
revitalize this very

725
00:37:33,917 --> 00:37:36,767
special place within the city.

726
00:37:36,767 --> 00:37:38,312
And again, we thank you.

727
00:37:38,312 --> 00:37:45,857
And thank staff and we would
love to answer questions

728
00:37:45,857 --> 00:37:54,377
as any member of Mr. Wiesner
Yes, I email staff and copies

729
00:37:54,377 --> 00:37:56,657
city Council on some questions.

730
00:37:56,657 --> 00:37:58,877
I have.

731
00:37:58,877 --> 00:38:01,634
And of course i've
got some more of that.

732
00:38:01,634 --> 00:38:02,572
Appreciate it.

733
00:38:02,572 --> 00:38:04,967
So reflecting back on
one of the other suppers

734
00:38:04,967 --> 00:38:08,627
that we had to approve that
was in the neighborhood zoning

735
00:38:08,627 --> 00:38:09,527
and it was a church.

736
00:38:09,527 --> 00:38:13,547
And then we put a school in
there and our commercial retail

737
00:38:13,547 --> 00:38:18,407
to a church and I want to
understand in that context

738
00:38:18,407 --> 00:38:19,130
a couple of things.

739
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:23,717
One is on the ACP that we
approve for the school,

740
00:38:23,717 --> 00:38:26,897
we are very
descriptive in things

741
00:38:26,897 --> 00:38:31,277
that could and could not be
done such as hours of operation.

742
00:38:31,277 --> 00:38:35,957
And when the lights had
to go off externals sound

743
00:38:35,957 --> 00:38:39,347
whether they could rent
the facility or not

744
00:38:39,347 --> 00:38:45,677
I don't know if those items
need to be on this shop

745
00:38:45,677 --> 00:38:48,737
or because it's in a
different zoning district.

746
00:38:48,737 --> 00:38:50,117
They don't need to be on.

747
00:38:50,117 --> 00:38:56,627
It's My first question
Please state your name

748
00:38:56,627 --> 00:38:59,107
and my name is Derek steward.

749
00:38:59,107 --> 00:39:02,207
So for planning manager
6060 South Quebec Street,

750
00:39:02,207 --> 00:39:04,367
Greenwood Village 0111.

751
00:39:04,367 --> 00:39:06,287
Thanks for there to
tell the truth, I do.

752
00:39:06,287 --> 00:39:09,947
I do I swear to tell the truth
and nothing but the truth.

753
00:39:09,947 --> 00:39:14,507
Thank you for the question,
Councilmember Wiesner City

754
00:39:14,507 --> 00:39:17,597
Council can put
conditions on unless you

755
00:39:17,597 --> 00:39:21,291
p that would be a condition
that you would put on this plan.

756
00:39:21,291 --> 00:39:22,688
That would be recorded.

757
00:39:22,688 --> 00:39:27,827
I think there's a nuance
here about the s u p

758
00:39:27,827 --> 00:39:29,687
that you mentioned
before in this one.

759
00:39:29,687 --> 00:39:32,957
It's context within a
neighborhood versus the context

760
00:39:32,957 --> 00:39:37,427
here where it's in more
of a commercial corridor

761
00:39:37,427 --> 00:39:41,117
There was concerns on that
prior case where there was

762
00:39:41,117 --> 00:39:44,537
operational hours That was a
concern of the neighborhood

763
00:39:44,537 --> 00:39:46,517
the concern of
council, and that was

764
00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:50,811
put as a condition
on the use council

765
00:39:50,811 --> 00:39:54,977
does have the authority
to condition approval

766
00:39:54,977 --> 00:39:57,385
and that would be
put on the plans

767
00:39:57,385 --> 00:40:02,177
for the it's an SDB and
s u p if council deems

768
00:40:02,177 --> 00:40:05,867
those necessary that
are sure discretion

769
00:40:05,867 --> 00:40:09,677
If we don't put them
on there it would just

770
00:40:09,677 --> 00:40:13,967
go under the guidelines
of what the zoning is

771
00:40:13,967 --> 00:40:16,584
for that area versus,
let's say again,

772
00:40:16,584 --> 00:40:18,107
going back to the other ACP,

773
00:40:18,107 --> 00:40:19,817
you're in a residence
neighborhood.

774
00:40:19,817 --> 00:40:22,247
So in terms of lighting,
noise and all that,

775
00:40:22,247 --> 00:40:23,627
it's a lot stricter.

776
00:40:23,627 --> 00:40:28,367
So does that So the reason
we put those on that issue

777
00:40:28,367 --> 00:40:30,737
is because we needed
to be stricter because

778
00:40:30,737 --> 00:40:34,607
of the residential zoning So
do you see that as an issue

779
00:40:34,607 --> 00:40:39,909
with this ACP We do not OK.

780
00:40:39,909 --> 00:40:41,867
And that's because
the commercial zoning

781
00:40:41,867 --> 00:40:47,537
is a more I guess,
open to active

782
00:40:47,537 --> 00:40:52,667
cities that have more traffic
hours or sound lighting,

783
00:40:52,667 --> 00:40:55,367
etc. that a fair enough.

784
00:40:55,367 --> 00:40:56,327
That's completely fair.

785
00:40:56,327 --> 00:41:00,947
Councilmember that I think
Mr. Holcombe has something

786
00:41:00,947 --> 00:41:02,057
he wanted to add to that.

787
00:41:02,057 --> 00:41:04,457
Mr. Holcombe, would you
introduce yourself, please?

788
00:41:04,457 --> 00:41:05,367
Sure, Derek.

789
00:41:05,367 --> 00:41:05,867
I'll come.

790
00:41:05,867 --> 00:41:07,437
Community development Director.

791
00:41:07,437 --> 00:41:07,937
I agree.

792
00:41:07,937 --> 00:41:10,577
Is there an address, please?

793
00:41:10,577 --> 00:41:11,447
And Sure.

794
00:41:11,447 --> 00:41:13,464
Never done this 60 60
South Quebec Street.

795
00:41:13,464 --> 00:41:15,427
I do for him to tell the
truth, the whole truth,

796
00:41:15,427 --> 00:41:16,334
and nothing but the truth.

797
00:41:16,334 --> 00:41:16,787
Thank you.

798
00:41:16,787 --> 00:41:17,287
You.

799
00:41:17,287 --> 00:41:20,554
Well, make sure you remember
the address Yes, sir

800
00:41:20,554 --> 00:41:22,848
And as your director of
community development,

801
00:41:22,848 --> 00:41:25,427
I would not recommend placing
conditions on this plan

802
00:41:25,427 --> 00:41:27,557
because I don't
think it's necessary.

803
00:41:27,557 --> 00:41:29,927
I think it would be
onerous to enforce.

804
00:41:29,927 --> 00:41:33,047
And given the context, I
don't believe that it's

805
00:41:33,047 --> 00:41:34,367
going to add any value.

806
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:38,567
We do have standards in our
code for lighting noise, access,

807
00:41:38,567 --> 00:41:40,127
traffic They've all
been reviewed as part

808
00:41:40,127 --> 00:41:43,967
of this proposal It's a lot
different context than Aspen

809
00:41:43,967 --> 00:41:46,547
Academy where I think
it was appropriate

810
00:41:46,547 --> 00:41:49,588
but I just don't
foresee it, adding

811
00:41:49,588 --> 00:41:51,291
any protections to the city.

812
00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:53,327
We don't already have
in the municipal code.

813
00:41:53,327 --> 00:41:56,267
So I would not suggest it
from a resource standpoint

814
00:41:56,267 --> 00:42:00,167
to have staff out there counting
cars and hours of operation

815
00:42:00,167 --> 00:42:02,987
and then I'm I'm not done yet.

816
00:42:02,987 --> 00:42:09,137
And so then on other
activity is right.

817
00:42:09,137 --> 00:42:12,374
So you know, we understand
the whole church point,

818
00:42:12,374 --> 00:42:15,407
but we're going to
have a coffee shop

819
00:42:15,407 --> 00:42:19,108
maybe some religious classes,
other classes I heard

820
00:42:19,108 --> 00:42:20,867
maybe some shared workspace.

821
00:42:20,867 --> 00:42:24,854
Is that all allowed
under the current zoning

822
00:42:24,854 --> 00:42:27,917
and would be allowed
under this aCP?

823
00:42:27,917 --> 00:42:30,737
Yes What you're
describing in the coffee

824
00:42:30,737 --> 00:42:34,967
shop and other activities
are allowed per the zoning.

825
00:42:34,967 --> 00:42:37,497
And so they could go
ahead and do that, okay?

826
00:42:37,497 --> 00:42:38,441
Yes, sir.

827
00:42:38,441 --> 00:42:41,554
So in other words, just
because you have an S u

828
00:42:41,554 --> 00:42:43,534
P doesn't mean you
still can't follow

829
00:42:43,534 --> 00:42:46,157
all of the other
allowable activities

830
00:42:46,157 --> 00:42:49,277
under the zoning Correct?

831
00:42:49,277 --> 00:42:50,037
OK.

832
00:42:50,037 --> 00:42:55,559
I mean, look one more time,
make sure I got everything.

833
00:42:55,559 --> 00:43:00,107
And i bought my First
cowboy stuff at shop last.

834
00:43:00,107 --> 00:43:01,572
But the One condition.

835
00:43:01,572 --> 00:43:06,707
I would put on aCP would be
to rip down the shepherd sign.

836
00:43:06,707 --> 00:43:10,877
I'm assuming that's something
we can put on as a condition You

837
00:43:10,877 --> 00:43:14,717
condition that I would defer to
the applicant on their intent

838
00:43:14,717 --> 00:43:17,957
for the sign I want it.

839
00:43:17,957 --> 00:43:21,515
So do I. You can his or Oakland.

840
00:43:21,515 --> 00:43:23,743
I'll recognize you
if you I'm fine.

841
00:43:23,743 --> 00:43:24,578
I'm done.

842
00:43:24,578 --> 00:43:28,217
OK Ms..

843
00:43:28,217 --> 00:43:32,837
Nelson I wonder if statement
and two quick questions.

844
00:43:32,837 --> 00:43:36,917
It's my understand knowing that
there are zero waivers needed.

845
00:43:36,917 --> 00:43:40,327
And there's zero
exceptions asked for.

846
00:43:40,327 --> 00:43:46,067
So it falls within
the ACP permissions

847
00:43:46,067 --> 00:43:48,407
for that particular
zoning district.

848
00:43:48,407 --> 00:43:50,217
Correct ?

849
00:43:50,217 --> 00:43:51,687
100% correct.

850
00:43:51,687 --> 00:43:55,157
OK I would like to
clarify the issue.

851
00:43:55,157 --> 00:43:58,920
P is for the use Sorry,
where all the exceptions are.

852
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,255
But otherwise, that's
a fair description.

853
00:44:01,255 --> 00:44:04,577
OK So they didn't they weren't
they were just coming to tell

854
00:44:04,577 --> 00:44:06,077
us what they're going to do.

855
00:44:06,077 --> 00:44:10,607
They haven't asked us to make
an exception or a variance Okay.

856
00:44:10,607 --> 00:44:16,997
Then i noted you're putting
a playground in front.

857
00:44:16,997 --> 00:44:19,639
Would that be something
The neighborhood kids,

858
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:21,977
your apartment, kids could use?

859
00:44:21,977 --> 00:44:24,767
Because like, when we put a
basement academy that playground

860
00:44:24,767 --> 00:44:28,127
for security reasons was
cordoned off with this

861
00:44:28,127 --> 00:44:31,847
be accessible to
people walking right

862
00:44:31,847 --> 00:44:35,357
now it is not intended to be
okay for same security reasons.

863
00:44:35,357 --> 00:44:36,287
Okay.

864
00:44:36,287 --> 00:44:43,217
And then what is we've had some
issues with businesses running

865
00:44:43,217 --> 00:44:46,457
counseling services or the
people that are offering

866
00:44:46,457 --> 00:44:52,187
counseling Is it a one on
one religious counseling

867
00:44:52,187 --> 00:44:55,067
Is it mental health
counselor bullying?

868
00:44:55,067 --> 00:44:58,097
Is it what type
of what do you see

869
00:44:58,097 --> 00:45:00,257
is Yeah, it's biblical
counseling Okay.

870
00:45:00,257 --> 00:45:03,617
Counselors are certified
as biblical counselors

871
00:45:03,617 --> 00:45:06,737
by the Association
of Certified Okay.

872
00:45:06,737 --> 00:45:08,644
And we're insured
for all of that.

873
00:45:08,644 --> 00:45:09,677
And have all the proper people.

874
00:45:09,677 --> 00:45:10,257
Okay.

875
00:45:10,257 --> 00:45:12,776
I was just you know, I didn't
know what type you know,

876
00:45:12,776 --> 00:45:13,487
drug counts.

877
00:45:13,487 --> 00:45:16,337
You never know what form
counseling is going to take

878
00:45:16,337 --> 00:45:18,650
And that's permitted
with this as you paid.

879
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:19,153
Correct.

880
00:45:19,153 --> 00:45:19,655
OK.

881
00:45:19,655 --> 00:45:21,347
That's all I have.

882
00:45:21,347 --> 00:45:25,757
Ms. Johnston, You have
parking and traffic.

883
00:45:25,757 --> 00:45:27,081
Just some clarification.

884
00:45:27,081 --> 00:45:32,807
So I guess in our code we
allow one spot for parishioners

885
00:45:32,807 --> 00:45:35,237
or and that's like
our church code

886
00:45:35,237 --> 00:45:41,687
or is it something more
standard than that Yeah, that's

887
00:45:41,687 --> 00:45:44,357
what our code
requires is one one

888
00:45:44,357 --> 00:45:48,827
parking space per four seats at
worship for religious uses Okay.

889
00:45:48,827 --> 00:45:53,087
And then on certain holidays,
I know that some churches get

890
00:45:53,087 --> 00:45:57,137
overflow So I wondered if
that had been accounted

891
00:45:57,137 --> 00:46:01,187
for in your place and i
think some of those roads

892
00:46:01,187 --> 00:46:03,227
could be worked on,
but I'm not sure

893
00:46:03,227 --> 00:46:05,897
So it's an open ended
question for anyone

894
00:46:05,897 --> 00:46:10,637
to answer My advice we
would defer to the applicant

895
00:46:10,637 --> 00:46:12,496
on their intent and plans.

896
00:46:12,496 --> 00:46:13,429
I think you have some other.

897
00:46:13,429 --> 00:46:15,407
Yes, we've been
doing holidays, you

898
00:46:15,407 --> 00:46:17,537
know, Easter and
Christmas specific week

899
00:46:17,537 --> 00:46:18,565
for a very long time.

900
00:46:18,565 --> 00:46:23,687
We usually run multiple extra
services because of that.

901
00:46:23,687 --> 00:46:28,217
So we're not just having usually
our only our regular services

902
00:46:28,217 --> 00:46:28,907
for Christmas Eve.

903
00:46:28,907 --> 00:46:32,297
We may run three for five
different services to ensure

904
00:46:32,297 --> 00:46:33,797
that people can
get a seat and that

905
00:46:33,797 --> 00:46:40,427
there is a parking spot if Mr..

906
00:46:40,427 --> 00:46:41,477
Doyle Yeah.

907
00:46:41,477 --> 00:46:42,377
Thank you.

908
00:46:42,377 --> 00:46:48,167
I have several questions and
I'd like to mostly follow up

909
00:46:48,167 --> 00:46:53,117
on the signage question
So the Scheffler sign

910
00:46:53,117 --> 00:46:58,667
is by quite historic,
but it's also quite large

911
00:46:58,667 --> 00:47:07,517
Is the plan to keep it as it is,
or is there a plan for the sign

912
00:47:07,517 --> 00:47:08,687
Can I speak to that?

913
00:47:08,687 --> 00:47:11,147
Of course our desire
would be to keep it

914
00:47:11,147 --> 00:47:14,777
but as it is, we realize that
we would not be able to make it

915
00:47:14,777 --> 00:47:18,588
Grace Chapel or something We
think there's a historic value

916
00:47:18,588 --> 00:47:20,807
It's been there since 1977.

917
00:47:20,807 --> 00:47:22,607
It's notable People know it.

918
00:47:22,607 --> 00:47:26,477
People love it We like to
keep we like to maintain it.

919
00:47:26,477 --> 00:47:27,467
We'd like to upkeep it.

920
00:47:27,467 --> 00:47:30,437
We'd like to kind of
revitalize it, if you will.

921
00:47:30,437 --> 00:47:32,657
We've even talked about
some kind of historic plaque

922
00:47:32,657 --> 00:47:34,847
that would be at the bottom
of it that says this was

923
00:47:34,847 --> 00:47:38,001
established when the
first Templars was placed

924
00:47:38,001 --> 00:47:41,057
in this property in 1977,
something like that That

925
00:47:41,057 --> 00:47:43,007
would be our preference.

926
00:47:43,007 --> 00:47:45,207
It's not something
that we must have.

927
00:47:45,207 --> 00:47:45,707
Right.

928
00:47:45,707 --> 00:47:47,027
It doesn't have our name on it.

929
00:47:47,027 --> 00:47:49,607
So we're doing it for
the sake of keeping

930
00:47:49,607 --> 00:47:53,897
something that we think is
a landmark in green village.

931
00:47:53,897 --> 00:47:55,397
Okay.

932
00:47:55,397 --> 00:47:59,867
With the sign itself, if it
were been part of this proposal

933
00:47:59,867 --> 00:48:02,627
to be built and grow
it village, would it

934
00:48:02,627 --> 00:48:07,817
be acceptable under our
codes today Technically,

935
00:48:07,817 --> 00:48:10,187
it's considered legally
nonconforming at the moment.

936
00:48:10,187 --> 00:48:14,897
And because as it has not been
actively or continuously used

937
00:48:14,897 --> 00:48:17,327
for a period of over
Six years or six months,

938
00:48:17,327 --> 00:48:20,957
it we could consider it
abandoned and maintenance would

939
00:48:20,957 --> 00:48:23,567
not be kind of they
would not have a right

940
00:48:23,567 --> 00:48:24,947
to maintain it after that.

941
00:48:24,947 --> 00:48:27,797
Six months of abandonment.

942
00:48:27,797 --> 00:48:33,287
So if if I make sure it's
legally nonconforming,

943
00:48:33,287 --> 00:48:36,647
I'm sorry, it's not per code.

944
00:48:36,647 --> 00:48:37,247
does that mean.

945
00:48:37,247 --> 00:48:40,037
It will have to come down?

946
00:48:40,037 --> 00:48:43,037
Unless unless unless
we want to keep it

947
00:48:43,037 --> 00:48:46,697
there are there if the council
wants to keep the sign,

948
00:48:46,697 --> 00:48:48,797
I would say just let us know.

949
00:48:48,797 --> 00:48:51,137
You want to keep the sign and
we'll put a condition on that.

950
00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:54,437
The sign stays and that it be
maintained I would not recommend

951
00:48:54,437 --> 00:48:57,107
you keep it and let it just
continue to deteriorate It would

952
00:48:57,107 --> 00:48:58,457
be condition that
it be maintained

953
00:48:58,457 --> 00:49:01,757
in its current condition
or better Right?

954
00:49:01,757 --> 00:49:06,571
Okay I notice that the
public neighborhood meeting,

955
00:49:06,571 --> 00:49:10,727
there was some
question about the sign

956
00:49:10,727 --> 00:49:12,317
didn't it wasn't specific.

957
00:49:12,317 --> 00:49:14,147
They didn't say whether
they wanted or didn't

958
00:49:14,147 --> 00:49:16,337
want to just ask the question.

959
00:49:16,337 --> 00:49:19,244
But i'm questioning
anybody was there was there

960
00:49:19,244 --> 00:49:21,329
a view against or for the sign?

961
00:49:21,329 --> 00:49:30,527
You know I can't remember if
it was for guess how about

962
00:49:30,527 --> 00:49:32,297
signage on the building itself?

963
00:49:32,297 --> 00:49:34,307
I noticed the facade
of the building

964
00:49:34,307 --> 00:49:38,447
really doesn't have any signage
So right now it's Scheffler

965
00:49:38,447 --> 00:49:41,549
and that's all
there is You know,

966
00:49:41,549 --> 00:49:44,357
that's kind of what that
space is is labeled.

967
00:49:44,357 --> 00:49:46,456
How would how is that
going to be addressed.

968
00:49:46,456 --> 00:49:53,327
Signage while we begin to
prepare very preliminary signage

969
00:49:53,327 --> 00:49:56,327
at this point we'd
like to work with staff

970
00:49:56,327 --> 00:50:01,165
and eventually with the
DTC, see to finalize signage

971
00:50:01,165 --> 00:50:02,834
But outside of this
particular process

972
00:50:02,834 --> 00:50:07,457
this evening, sir and I can
speak to the city's process,

973
00:50:07,457 --> 00:50:10,547
the city's process and signs
goes through the planning

974
00:50:10,547 --> 00:50:14,417
and zoning commission so they
could ask for a sign package

975
00:50:14,417 --> 00:50:16,607
that would go to
planning and zoning

976
00:50:16,607 --> 00:50:21,047
It would be their authority
to approve it or deny it.

977
00:50:21,047 --> 00:50:24,827
Generally speaking
staff and applicants

978
00:50:24,827 --> 00:50:28,577
like to work together in making
sure that there's development,

979
00:50:28,577 --> 00:50:32,477
and then there's signage so
that, for instance, a quality

980
00:50:32,477 --> 00:50:35,687
development doesn't get denied
because someone doesn't like

981
00:50:35,687 --> 00:50:37,967
the color blue on the sign.

982
00:50:37,967 --> 00:50:40,157
So that would be a
forthcoming package

983
00:50:40,157 --> 00:50:43,113
that would be processed
through the city once applied

984
00:50:43,113 --> 00:50:45,593
for through planning and zoning.

985
00:50:45,593 --> 00:50:49,487
OK Well, I think there's
obviously different opinions

986
00:50:49,487 --> 00:50:56,177
on council about the
Scheffler sign I,

987
00:50:56,177 --> 00:50:58,757
I know people that find
it very objectionable

988
00:50:58,757 --> 00:51:01,427
because it's so large
and, you know, whatnot

989
00:51:01,427 --> 00:51:03,407
and others that
feel it's historic

990
00:51:03,407 --> 00:51:09,423
and it's a bi has value
in that historic context

991
00:51:09,423 --> 00:51:13,587
But the but the reality is
it's not it's not pertinent.

992
00:51:13,587 --> 00:51:14,087
It.

993
00:51:14,087 --> 00:51:19,097
Doesn't it doesn't
describe the place.

994
00:51:19,097 --> 00:51:24,737
It's it's confusing So
I think council should

995
00:51:24,737 --> 00:51:29,927
weigh on the sign in my opinion
and whether we should keep it

996
00:51:29,927 --> 00:51:31,577
or not.

997
00:51:31,577 --> 00:51:33,720
I, for one, would not.

998
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:35,897
But I'm not saying
there's not value

999
00:51:35,897 --> 00:51:37,517
in the historic aspect of it.

1000
00:51:37,517 --> 00:51:42,257
It's just that I find
it to be not appropriate

1001
00:51:42,257 --> 00:51:46,427
given the use of last question.

1002
00:51:46,427 --> 00:51:49,037
I was a little confused on
the open space requirement.

1003
00:51:49,037 --> 00:51:53,447
It is the open space
requirement 20% or 30%.

1004
00:51:53,447 --> 00:51:54,527
It is 20%.

1005
00:51:54,527 --> 00:51:55,652
This 20%.

1006
00:51:55,652 --> 00:51:56,402
OK.

1007
00:51:56,402 --> 00:51:59,867
And then I would like to
add to if they bring a sign

1008
00:51:59,867 --> 00:52:02,627
package that can meet
code, it wouldn't require

1009
00:52:02,627 --> 00:52:05,477
a need for a signed
variance So they always

1010
00:52:05,477 --> 00:52:07,727
have the option to propose
signage that can just

1011
00:52:07,727 --> 00:52:09,797
be code Yeah, I understand.

1012
00:52:09,797 --> 00:52:12,390
For the for other signage
other than the Scheffler.

1013
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:12,890
Sorry.

1014
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:17,867
Yeah, I understand Thank
you, George Which two?

1015
00:52:17,867 --> 00:52:19,577
Welcome to you.

1016
00:52:19,577 --> 00:52:22,787
Signs go to the planning
and zoning Commission

1017
00:52:22,787 --> 00:52:25,997
and do not come
to council Correct

1018
00:52:25,997 --> 00:52:27,527
clarification on that, Mary.

1019
00:52:27,527 --> 00:52:29,237
They can choose to
meet the standard sign

1020
00:52:29,237 --> 00:52:30,953
code at which point it
would be administrative.

1021
00:52:30,953 --> 00:52:32,447
It's only if they
choose to deviate

1022
00:52:32,447 --> 00:52:33,767
above and beyond
the sign code, they

1023
00:52:33,767 --> 00:52:36,137
would have to go to the
planning and zoning commission.

1024
00:52:36,137 --> 00:52:37,877
Our goal is always to
work to get them to just

1025
00:52:37,877 --> 00:52:40,277
follow the sign code, correct?

1026
00:52:40,277 --> 00:52:43,637
Mr. Schneiderman
forms just one thing

1027
00:52:43,637 --> 00:52:49,127
I follow up on that
So if nothing is done,

1028
00:52:49,127 --> 00:52:51,257
regards the Scheffler
sign it will

1029
00:52:51,257 --> 00:52:55,817
have to come down because
it will be nonconforming.

1030
00:52:55,817 --> 00:52:57,557
Is that correct?

1031
00:52:57,557 --> 00:53:05,387
Yes The grace chapel could come
before our planning and zoning

1032
00:53:05,387 --> 00:53:08,237
with a proposal to
keep the scheffler sign

1033
00:53:08,237 --> 00:53:12,347
and planning and zoning
would approve that or not.

1034
00:53:12,347 --> 00:53:18,378
And that wouldn't
come to council Yeah.

1035
00:53:18,378 --> 00:53:20,327
Councilmember or I think
if you make it a condition

1036
00:53:20,327 --> 00:53:23,087
that the sign must remain
will confer with city attorney

1037
00:53:23,087 --> 00:53:25,217
on whether planning and
zoning also needs to weigh in

1038
00:53:25,217 --> 00:53:30,557
or if that's sufficient to leave
the sign in place I think Mr.

1039
00:53:30,557 --> 00:53:34,187
Doyle's asking the reverse
of that I'm asking is,

1040
00:53:34,187 --> 00:53:36,047
do we if we don't
do anything, do

1041
00:53:36,047 --> 00:53:39,977
we lose control over whether
that's the sign is there or not?

1042
00:53:39,977 --> 00:53:46,577
We are we abdicating that
responsibility if we don't act

1043
00:53:46,577 --> 00:53:49,997
if you don't act once the
building changes hands

1044
00:53:49,997 --> 00:53:54,377
and it's no longer applicable as
Scheffler Blue Barn per the code

1045
00:53:54,377 --> 00:53:56,297
after a period of six
months of abandonment,

1046
00:53:56,297 --> 00:54:00,857
it would have to be
removed clarify this six

1047
00:54:00,857 --> 00:54:05,207
months of abandonment please.

1048
00:54:05,207 --> 00:54:07,458
I think right now you can
make a loose interpretation.

1049
00:54:07,458 --> 00:54:10,397
It's being used for directional
purposes for Boot Barn.

1050
00:54:10,397 --> 00:54:12,107
They're in the
Scheffler building

1051
00:54:12,107 --> 00:54:14,477
Once it's no longer
these owners building,

1052
00:54:14,477 --> 00:54:16,877
it's no longer
applicable to the site.

1053
00:54:16,877 --> 00:54:19,967
And for the code it would
be no longer allowed.

1054
00:54:19,967 --> 00:54:25,397
After six months, after six
months, Mr. Jackson, John

1055
00:54:25,397 --> 00:54:28,397
Jackson, city manager
6060 South back

1056
00:54:28,397 --> 00:54:32,087
We did this and invoked
this same exact policy with

1057
00:54:32,087 --> 00:54:33,647
the theater sign on Arapahoe.

1058
00:54:33,647 --> 00:54:34,457
Appreciate it.

1059
00:54:34,457 --> 00:54:36,017
Was considered abandoned.

1060
00:54:36,017 --> 00:54:38,387
And we made the owner,
property owner take it down.

1061
00:54:38,387 --> 00:54:40,187
We could do the
exact same thing here

1062
00:54:40,187 --> 00:54:43,097
I think this really
boils down to what

1063
00:54:43,097 --> 00:54:47,237
you would like to see happen
more than what we can do.

1064
00:54:47,237 --> 00:54:51,857
The let's take the other
example the Penders true sign.

1065
00:54:51,857 --> 00:54:53,627
That was a sign that
I'm talking to It was

1066
00:54:53,627 --> 00:54:57,287
right there There were to sign.

1067
00:54:57,287 --> 00:55:03,587
Okay Mr. Snyderman, thank you.

1068
00:55:03,587 --> 00:55:05,837
Thank you, Mayor Just
a couple of questions.

1069
00:55:05,837 --> 00:55:09,137
I think directed towards the
pastor Just out of curiosity,

1070
00:55:09,137 --> 00:55:13,787
your congregation and from
what parts of the metro area

1071
00:55:13,787 --> 00:55:17,277
do they typically hail
That's a great question.

1072
00:55:17,277 --> 00:55:17,777
Councilmember.

1073
00:55:17,777 --> 00:55:20,957
We have mostly all South Denver.

1074
00:55:20,957 --> 00:55:24,047
We have a few that are just
in Green Village and north,

1075
00:55:24,047 --> 00:55:27,527
but not much north
of here Most is south

1076
00:55:27,527 --> 00:55:30,467
and I would say evenly
spread east to west.

1077
00:55:30,467 --> 00:55:34,457
So we were founded
in West in Littleton

1078
00:55:34,457 --> 00:55:38,537
and then we have people
that now live in Parker

1079
00:55:38,537 --> 00:55:40,247
out East or Aurora.

1080
00:55:40,247 --> 00:55:44,207
So we're pretty spread on
either side of the 25 corridor.

1081
00:55:44,207 --> 00:55:47,147
But South kind of
here, maybe even all

1082
00:55:47,147 --> 00:55:48,227
the way towards Castle Rock.

1083
00:55:48,227 --> 00:55:49,937
Okay, great.

1084
00:55:49,937 --> 00:55:51,767
Another question for you.

1085
00:55:51,767 --> 00:55:54,677
What type of secure city
do you typically have?

1086
00:55:54,677 --> 00:55:57,497
Both on a typical Sunday
during the holidays,

1087
00:55:57,497 --> 00:55:58,997
you have your own security team.

1088
00:55:58,997 --> 00:56:02,057
Do you hire out Yeah,
it's a wonderful question

1089
00:56:02,057 --> 00:56:02,957
and very important to us.

1090
00:56:02,957 --> 00:56:05,687
We have a world
class security team.

1091
00:56:05,687 --> 00:56:10,067
They've been trained by
ministry and an outfitter

1092
00:56:10,067 --> 00:56:11,087
called Able Shepherd.

1093
00:56:11,087 --> 00:56:12,317
Everyone goes through that.

1094
00:56:12,317 --> 00:56:14,561
We have them broken into
four different teams.

1095
00:56:14,561 --> 00:56:15,805
But there are assigned.

1096
00:56:15,805 --> 00:56:18,107
We have assigned
posts we have security

1097
00:56:18,107 --> 00:56:19,697
cameras all over the campus.

1098
00:56:19,697 --> 00:56:22,337
And our security team
at any given time

1099
00:56:22,337 --> 00:56:25,097
is watching every
single door every place,

1100
00:56:25,097 --> 00:56:26,957
every suspicious activity.

1101
00:56:26,957 --> 00:56:30,767
We also pay for Douglas
County to be present on campus

1102
00:56:30,767 --> 00:56:34,097
with a car and an
armed police officer.

1103
00:56:34,097 --> 00:56:35,537
We would plan to
do the same thing.

1104
00:56:35,537 --> 00:56:37,430
Obviously with
Greenwood Village.

1105
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:39,887
OK, wonderful And then
just a final question.

1106
00:56:39,887 --> 00:56:42,532
I think this is directed
more towards staff

1107
00:56:42,532 --> 00:56:46,397
And I'll preface this by saying
that I'm in favor of the church.

1108
00:56:46,397 --> 00:56:50,627
I'm just curious if we have a
dollar figure of loss of tax

1109
00:56:50,627 --> 00:56:54,737
revenue for the boot barn
leaving this becoming basically

1110
00:56:54,737 --> 00:56:58,967
counselor my recommendation
is that that staff not answer

1111
00:56:58,967 --> 00:57:01,260
that question as it's not
pertinent to the criteria for

1112
00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:02,679
the applications before you.

1113
00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:03,529
Thank you.

1114
00:57:03,529 --> 00:57:05,597
Thanks.

1115
00:57:05,597 --> 00:57:09,287
Miss Johnston I just want to
say I the sign is historical

1116
00:57:09,287 --> 00:57:14,409
and so i would hope that council
would allow them to keep it

1117
00:57:14,409 --> 00:57:21,167
And I would vote in favor of
that if they don't abide by it

1118
00:57:21,167 --> 00:57:25,457
or or, you know
maybe something else

1119
00:57:25,457 --> 00:57:30,017
could be done so that it's not
standing in the middle of I-25,

1120
00:57:30,017 --> 00:57:32,327
but maybe lower with
a marker or something.

1121
00:57:32,327 --> 00:57:34,770
But we can't lose that Yeah.

1122
00:57:34,770 --> 00:57:35,270
Thank you.

1123
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:37,337
I'm not sure it's allowed
in your zoning district

1124
00:57:37,337 --> 00:57:43,337
for your house
inside mission Also,

1125
00:57:43,337 --> 00:57:47,537
I personally don't think the
sign should set should stay,

1126
00:57:47,537 --> 00:57:51,527
but I would propose like
a citywide wide auction.

1127
00:57:51,527 --> 00:57:55,097
I mean that's a serious right.

1128
00:57:55,097 --> 00:57:59,417
And you could put that money
towards funding all sorts

1129
00:57:59,417 --> 00:58:02,267
of other parish
ministries I mean,

1130
00:58:02,267 --> 00:58:03,977
you're going to have
a line out the door

1131
00:58:03,977 --> 00:58:06,587
starting with Donna and Libby.

1132
00:58:06,587 --> 00:58:08,357
You know to put
bids on that side.

1133
00:58:08,357 --> 00:58:11,687
I think it doesn't
suit what you're

1134
00:58:11,687 --> 00:58:15,707
trying to do with the
site and in fact, might

1135
00:58:15,707 --> 00:58:18,527
cause some confusion agenda.

1136
00:58:18,527 --> 00:58:21,647
People that are trying to
locate you or whatever.

1137
00:58:21,647 --> 00:58:24,580
But what a great Welcome
to the community.

1138
00:58:24,580 --> 00:58:26,357
Common options on the side.

1139
00:58:26,357 --> 00:58:27,947
You could break it
down into several.

1140
00:58:27,947 --> 00:58:29,522
I was just looking Add it.

1141
00:58:29,522 --> 00:58:31,161
You got the big shuttlers thing.

1142
00:58:31,161 --> 00:58:34,487
And then you got the little
these with the bullhorns on it

1143
00:58:34,487 --> 00:58:37,337
You could break that apart
and make billions of dollars

1144
00:58:37,337 --> 00:58:40,547
off pay for your rented.

1145
00:58:40,547 --> 00:58:43,879
So I'm just saying i don't
think that preserve HOA would

1146
00:58:43,879 --> 00:58:46,697
allow I do have a
serious question

1147
00:58:46,697 --> 00:58:48,887
for you concerning the parking.

1148
00:58:48,887 --> 00:58:51,017
Could you help me
understand that maybe it's

1149
00:58:51,017 --> 00:58:56,507
staff Two is your thousand
parishioners plus staff

1150
00:58:56,507 --> 00:59:03,317
and for per unit, which c
per person or would seem

1151
00:59:03,317 --> 00:59:05,207
i don't know whether
you get an average

1152
00:59:05,207 --> 00:59:08,068
of four people plus
driving together

1153
00:59:08,068 --> 00:59:10,658
to attend to your services.

1154
00:59:10,658 --> 00:59:12,815
It's a fair question.

1155
00:59:12,815 --> 00:59:14,477
Obviously we would
make sure that we make

1156
00:59:14,477 --> 00:59:15,857
arrangements for staff parking.

1157
00:59:15,857 --> 00:59:17,897
We've already done that
in some of the plans

1158
00:59:17,897 --> 00:59:19,517
on the back sides
of the building,

1159
00:59:19,517 --> 00:59:21,677
giving them premier
spots to those who visit.

1160
00:59:21,677 --> 00:59:24,257
We do have a lot of
families in my family.

1161
00:59:24,257 --> 00:59:27,887
I have six kids, so there's
a lot of kids in our car

1162
00:59:27,887 --> 00:59:30,107
So you have to think
of it that way as well.

1163
00:59:30,107 --> 00:59:33,317
How families come
to church together

1164
00:59:33,317 --> 00:59:36,137
We would work towards
a parking agreement

1165
00:59:36,137 --> 00:59:39,587
with both of the businesses
to the north and to the south.

1166
00:59:39,587 --> 00:59:43,097
We know that those businesses
are not used on the weekends,

1167
00:59:43,097 --> 00:59:45,407
and so we like to have some
kind of parking agreement.

1168
00:59:45,407 --> 00:59:49,907
There is a stair kind
of forced stair way

1169
00:59:49,907 --> 00:59:52,037
that goes to the
building your health

1170
00:59:52,037 --> 00:59:55,307
or even health to the south.

1171
00:59:55,307 --> 00:59:57,647
And so we'd love to make
use of that stairway

1172
00:59:57,647 --> 01:00:00,737
and work with them first
for parking on Sundays.

1173
01:00:00,737 --> 01:00:01,997
Good at that.

1174
01:00:01,997 --> 01:00:03,797
We don't need more
parking there.

1175
01:00:03,797 --> 01:00:04,517
There's no doubt.

1176
01:00:04,517 --> 01:00:06,467
But that would be great
if you could do that,

1177
01:00:06,467 --> 01:00:10,397
because I can see you
needing if you have

1178
01:00:10,397 --> 01:00:13,015
a full house, if you
would say, yeah, you

1179
01:00:13,015 --> 01:00:14,298
could need additional parking.

1180
01:00:14,298 --> 01:00:14,811
Absolutely.

1181
01:00:14,811 --> 01:00:18,557
And we would to that point, we
would work very hard to make

1182
01:00:18,557 --> 01:00:19,737
sure there's no street parking.

1183
01:00:19,737 --> 01:00:20,237
There would.

1184
01:00:20,237 --> 01:00:24,737
But we're going to stop
that neighborhood Thank you.

1185
01:00:24,737 --> 01:00:30,917
Any other questions from
council Oh Mr. Doyle, I just

1186
01:00:30,917 --> 01:00:32,327
have a procedural question.

1187
01:00:32,327 --> 01:00:39,077
George, I If we wanted to pass
a resolution or whatever it is

1188
01:00:39,077 --> 01:00:44,747
on the sign, do we do that
before we act on the application

1189
01:00:44,747 --> 01:00:50,117
or after or when Mr..

1190
01:00:50,117 --> 01:00:55,027
Come here.

1191
01:00:55,027 --> 01:00:55,789
I would, yeah.

1192
01:00:55,789 --> 01:00:57,656
I've conferred with the city
attorney in our huddle room

1193
01:00:57,656 --> 01:01:01,367
back here and I would say I
would take action on the sub

1194
01:01:01,367 --> 01:01:03,197
first to authorize the use.

1195
01:01:03,197 --> 01:01:05,927
Then when you take a vote on
the site development plan,

1196
01:01:05,927 --> 01:01:09,797
you would take a motion on
the condition in our motion

1197
01:01:09,797 --> 01:01:13,037
for approval on the condition
that the existing sign be

1198
01:01:13,037 --> 01:01:18,227
maintained at current
or better condition

1199
01:01:18,227 --> 01:01:21,287
for purposes of
historic significance.

1200
01:01:21,287 --> 01:01:23,778
Because the code does not
technically define abandonment

1201
01:01:23,778 --> 01:01:26,987
So if you give it a purpose for
historical significance, that

1202
01:01:26,987 --> 01:01:28,307
would be a way around
the abandonment

1203
01:01:28,307 --> 01:01:31,067
clause in the same code
And we've confirmed,

1204
01:01:31,067 --> 01:01:32,957
we believe that would be
sufficient without having to go

1205
01:01:32,957 --> 01:01:35,327
back through planning and
Zoning commission for a variance

1206
01:01:35,327 --> 01:01:43,127
and would run with the land
Okay May I speak to other sign?

1207
01:01:43,127 --> 01:01:47,087
Would that be Certainly I just
I'll give one case, you know,

1208
01:01:47,087 --> 01:01:49,527
as an almost native born
on an Air Force base.

1209
01:01:49,527 --> 01:01:50,627
But I've been here
my whole life.

1210
01:01:50,627 --> 01:01:54,137
My wife also a native, it's
the number One question we've

1211
01:01:54,137 --> 01:01:57,197
had over the last 13 months
as we pursue this property,

1212
01:01:57,197 --> 01:02:00,667
will the signs stay even old
in a multi person meeting

1213
01:02:00,667 --> 01:02:03,497
in our church
about this property

1214
01:02:03,497 --> 01:02:07,967
The overwhelming majority are
saying, Please keep the sign.

1215
01:02:07,967 --> 01:02:12,407
I I understand it says shiftless
settlers went out of business.

1216
01:02:12,407 --> 01:02:14,057
I believe in in 1999.

1217
01:02:14,057 --> 01:02:14,957
Appreciate it.

1218
01:02:14,957 --> 01:02:16,007
Hasn't been in business.

1219
01:02:16,007 --> 01:02:19,037
Now you could make a case that
viewpoint is closely related

1220
01:02:19,037 --> 01:02:21,077
to what settlers
was, but who really

1221
01:02:21,077 --> 01:02:23,051
knows where settlers
was ? except

1222
01:02:23,051 --> 01:02:25,607
there's a ball on the sign.

1223
01:02:25,607 --> 01:02:27,767
Those that are going
to boot barn today

1224
01:02:27,767 --> 01:02:29,777
may not even understand
what settlers was

1225
01:02:29,777 --> 01:02:31,098
It's not in business anymore.

1226
01:02:31,098 --> 01:02:32,897
It's a historic cattle company.

1227
01:02:32,897 --> 01:02:35,957
They bought that building put
it there and put that sign up.

1228
01:02:35,957 --> 01:02:37,247
I think it is significant.

1229
01:02:37,247 --> 01:02:40,187
People do use it as a
landmark for orientation

1230
01:02:40,187 --> 01:02:42,407
around Greenwood Village
And yes, well, we're not

1231
01:02:42,407 --> 01:02:44,117
selling boots and cowboy hats.

1232
01:02:44,117 --> 01:02:47,417
We'd be the shirt, the church
that meets at the shelter site.

1233
01:02:47,417 --> 01:02:49,937
I do think it'd be a
point of orientation

1234
01:02:49,937 --> 01:02:53,657
for us People know it even
as people have been hearing

1235
01:02:53,657 --> 01:02:55,310
about our new
pursuit of a building

1236
01:02:55,310 --> 01:02:56,817
They said, Well, so where is it.

1237
01:02:56,817 --> 01:02:57,617
Is in Greenwood Village.

1238
01:02:57,617 --> 01:02:59,957
Do you know where the super
sign is Yeah, it's right there.

1239
01:02:59,957 --> 01:03:02,657
It's that Alamo looking thing
that we're going to make better,

1240
01:03:02,657 --> 01:03:04,097
right I tell them that.

1241
01:03:04,097 --> 01:03:05,777
But they know where the sign is.

1242
01:03:05,777 --> 01:03:07,067
If you were to
make a condition, I

1243
01:03:07,067 --> 01:03:09,707
guess my request would be to
allow us to keep the sign,

1244
01:03:09,707 --> 01:03:11,147
to maintain the sign to upkeep.

1245
01:03:11,147 --> 01:03:13,948
The sign has had no
love It needs reworking,

1246
01:03:13,948 --> 01:03:17,507
and needs repaint We take it
back to its historic condition.

1247
01:03:17,507 --> 01:03:21,287
Give us a period of time to
maintain it and and allow

1248
01:03:21,287 --> 01:03:22,817
that to go on for a while.

1249
01:03:22,817 --> 01:03:24,467
And if it doesn't
meet your standards,

1250
01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:26,357
I'm not going down
the hill for the sign

1251
01:03:26,357 --> 01:03:27,647
I'm more care about people.

1252
01:03:27,647 --> 01:03:28,997
I don't care about a sign.

1253
01:03:28,997 --> 01:03:31,517
But I think the sign is
important to the people.

1254
01:03:31,517 --> 01:03:34,397
And that's why I want to make
the case to keep the sign Thank

1255
01:03:34,397 --> 01:03:40,877
you for that feedback The
there are no further questions

1256
01:03:40,877 --> 01:03:44,417
and i will now call on all those
who have indicated their desire

1257
01:03:44,417 --> 01:03:47,837
to be heard concerning the
matter remind each individual

1258
01:03:47,837 --> 01:03:49,337
that they must first
give their name

1259
01:03:49,337 --> 01:03:54,917
and address and be sworn in
before testifying We've heard

1260
01:03:54,917 --> 01:04:01,817
from most people on this list
is there are people out who are

1261
01:04:01,817 --> 01:04:10,637
in the audience who
wish to come and testify

1262
01:04:10,637 --> 01:04:14,987
I don't see anyone
in Is there a motion

1263
01:04:14,987 --> 01:04:16,757
to close the public hearing?

1264
01:04:16,757 --> 01:04:19,063
So moved I'll second.

1265
01:04:19,063 --> 01:04:23,567
All those in favor Please
say I. I those opposed

1266
01:04:23,567 --> 01:04:28,937
nay The motion passes the
public hearing is now closed.

1267
01:04:28,937 --> 01:04:30,707
I will now entertain
a motion for case

1268
01:04:30,707 --> 01:04:35,237
number Z days 26 days 00017.

1269
01:04:35,237 --> 01:04:38,523
The special use permit for
8500 East Orchard Road.

1270
01:04:38,523 --> 01:04:45,617
So that we may begin
deliberations on this matter

1271
01:04:45,617 --> 01:04:47,637
Mr. Schneiderman may I ask you.

1272
01:04:47,637 --> 01:04:48,137
Yes.

1273
01:04:48,137 --> 01:04:49,157
Mr. Mayor, I moved.

1274
01:04:49,157 --> 01:04:49,907
I'm sorry.

1275
01:04:49,907 --> 01:04:52,397
I'm having trouble
navigating between my phone

1276
01:04:52,397 --> 01:04:54,017
and my I'm sorry.

1277
01:04:54,017 --> 01:04:56,777
I'm barely able to
switch between teams.

1278
01:04:56,777 --> 01:04:58,337
So if Mr. Schneiderman
could do it.

1279
01:04:58,337 --> 01:05:01,367
I'm so sorry No problem.

1280
01:05:01,367 --> 01:05:03,497
I move to approve case number z.

1281
01:05:03,497 --> 01:05:06,137
DoorDash 20 6-00017.

1282
01:05:06,137 --> 01:05:08,897
Special use permit
8500 East Orchard Road.

1283
01:05:08,897 --> 01:05:12,677
Grace Chapel, as outlined in the
staff report Is there a second?

1284
01:05:12,677 --> 01:05:13,697
Second John?

1285
01:05:13,697 --> 01:05:15,317
Second vertical.

1286
01:05:15,317 --> 01:05:24,917
Thank you Ms. Johnston Any
discussion And Deputy city

1287
01:05:24,917 --> 01:05:30,017
Clerk, would you please call the
vote Councilmember Schneiderman.

1288
01:05:30,017 --> 01:05:30,767
Yes.

1289
01:05:30,767 --> 01:05:32,687
Councilmember Johnston Yes.

1290
01:05:32,687 --> 01:05:33,347
Mayor Pro Tem.

1291
01:05:33,347 --> 01:05:36,617
Barnicle yes.

1292
01:05:36,617 --> 01:05:37,247
Councilmember.

1293
01:05:37,247 --> 01:05:42,943
Mr. Councilmember for Wisner.

1294
01:05:42,943 --> 01:05:43,937
Yes.

1295
01:05:43,937 --> 01:05:47,207
Councilmember Stall Yes.

1296
01:05:47,207 --> 01:05:48,587
Councilman Dale.

1297
01:05:48,587 --> 01:05:49,427
Yes.

1298
01:05:49,427 --> 01:05:50,687
Councilmember Nelson.

1299
01:05:50,687 --> 01:05:53,387
Yes The motion passes
with a majority vote

1300
01:05:53,387 --> 01:05:57,017
Thank you very much Council.

1301
01:05:57,017 --> 01:06:01,817
Now, consider case number
three, DoorDash 20 6-000 26.

1302
01:06:01,817 --> 01:06:04,453
The site Development
Plan for 8500 each.

1303
01:06:04,453 --> 01:06:05,257
Orchard Road.

1304
01:06:05,257 --> 01:06:06,865
May I have a motion.

1305
01:06:06,865 --> 01:06:08,667
So we can begin deliberation?

1306
01:06:08,667 --> 01:06:09,167
Ms..

1307
01:06:09,167 --> 01:06:12,137
Johnston yes, with a question.

1308
01:06:12,137 --> 01:06:15,017
Is this where I could
have a condition

1309
01:06:15,017 --> 01:06:18,617
or do you do that later?

1310
01:06:18,617 --> 01:06:19,637
Do I do that later?

1311
01:06:19,637 --> 01:06:21,707
And I believe staff
has a recommendation

1312
01:06:21,707 --> 01:06:22,457
for that language.

1313
01:06:22,457 --> 01:06:24,197
When you get to that point.

1314
01:06:24,197 --> 01:06:33,887
Okay So I move to approve comes
Okay I move to approve case

1315
01:06:33,887 --> 01:06:40,817
number 26 00026 site development
plan 8500 East Orchard Road

1316
01:06:40,817 --> 01:06:45,947
Grace chapel with a condition
that the existing shoppers

1317
01:06:45,947 --> 01:06:49,247
freestanding sign be maintained
in the current location

1318
01:06:49,247 --> 01:06:51,737
and kept in as good
or better condition

1319
01:06:51,737 --> 01:06:54,826
as it exists today Yeah.

1320
01:06:54,826 --> 01:06:57,320
Second barnacle
exclamation point.

1321
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,817
Thank you.

1322
01:06:58,817 --> 01:07:00,677
You.

1323
01:07:00,677 --> 01:07:06,317
Discuss ocean that's Nelson
be okay with the site plan

1324
01:07:06,317 --> 01:07:13,427
as is without the condition
I don't I I don't feel

1325
01:07:13,427 --> 01:07:21,737
a need to keep the side
mr. Wizner saying I

1326
01:07:21,737 --> 01:07:23,657
think I should sell it.

1327
01:07:23,657 --> 01:07:26,657
And once that sign's gone
no one is going to care.

1328
01:07:26,657 --> 01:07:31,397
Six months from now No, not it's
an eyesore It does not fit in

1329
01:07:31,397 --> 01:07:33,887
with the city I
wouldn't get rid of it,

1330
01:07:33,887 --> 01:07:39,049
so I would go with
the super submitted.

1331
01:07:39,049 --> 01:07:43,697
Have you number three are
nostalgia, Mr. Barnacle,

1332
01:07:43,697 --> 01:07:44,447
let me call on you.

1333
01:07:44,447 --> 01:07:49,487
Please Go ahead I just
did have, you know,

1334
01:07:49,487 --> 01:07:54,077
Mercier Del Jim, Mr. Wiesner
mean growing up here in District

1335
01:07:54,077 --> 01:07:57,017
three, this is important I think
the applicant applicant actually

1336
01:07:57,017 --> 01:08:00,149
made a very moving suggestion.

1337
01:08:00,149 --> 01:08:04,337
Keep the sign It's not
directional It is nostalgic

1338
01:08:04,337 --> 01:08:06,437
and it's part of the
heart of District three.

1339
01:08:06,437 --> 01:08:11,507
So I'm in support of the
conditional amendment

1340
01:08:11,507 --> 01:08:21,287
as proposed by councilmember
Johnston and Mr. Schneiderman I,

1341
01:08:21,287 --> 01:08:23,762
I have to say I've
also lived here.

1342
01:08:23,762 --> 01:08:28,817
Basically, my entire
life I love the sign.

1343
01:08:28,817 --> 01:08:29,747
I'd like to keep it.

1344
01:08:29,747 --> 01:08:37,227
I'm happy with the with the
amendment to the to the SUV Mr..

1345
01:08:37,227 --> 01:08:37,727
Mr..

1346
01:08:37,727 --> 01:08:39,497
Doyle yeah.

1347
01:08:39,497 --> 01:08:42,748
I've made my position
known and i, absolutely.

1348
01:08:42,748 --> 01:08:47,417
I think I agree with what's been
said about not keeping the sign.

1349
01:08:47,417 --> 01:08:52,607
I realize that there's a value,
but I think it will have.

1350
01:08:52,607 --> 01:08:54,737
I think it served its purpose.

1351
01:08:54,737 --> 01:09:02,747
So the question is that the the
motion is to add that conditions

1352
01:09:02,747 --> 01:09:04,757
So if we don't want
the sign, we vote

1353
01:09:04,757 --> 01:09:08,447
no for the approval of the ACP.

1354
01:09:08,447 --> 01:09:14,447
That's correct And we can
have a Second as a second.

1355
01:09:14,447 --> 01:09:18,114
That would take it out
of So in other words,

1356
01:09:18,114 --> 01:09:25,307
if we don't approve this with
the sign included, then Ms..

1357
01:09:25,307 --> 01:09:29,207
Johnston or someone else
could vote for approval

1358
01:09:29,207 --> 01:09:34,877
and without the sign
being there as Tom

1359
01:09:34,877 --> 01:09:44,657
said on the line, Yes Mr. Stall,
do you have an a an opinion

1360
01:09:44,657 --> 01:09:49,836
You know, I completely want.

1361
01:09:49,836 --> 01:09:51,712
I could go either way on it.

1362
01:09:51,712 --> 01:09:57,985
I you know, I first came
to Denver and in the 70s.

1363
01:09:57,985 --> 01:10:01,667
And I remember the sign
being there, it's nostalgic,

1364
01:10:01,667 --> 01:10:04,907
but I could also
see it being removed

1365
01:10:04,907 --> 01:10:09,347
But I at the end of the
day, it's not in my district

1366
01:10:09,347 --> 01:10:15,077
and i would side
with the council

1367
01:10:15,077 --> 01:10:17,987
people in District three.

1368
01:10:17,987 --> 01:10:20,867
All right So by my
count, that means

1369
01:10:20,867 --> 01:10:25,367
there are four people in
favor of keeping the sign

1370
01:10:25,367 --> 01:10:27,889
and three people
who are would just

1371
01:10:27,889 --> 01:10:36,137
soon see the sign removed So
are there is there any other.

1372
01:10:36,137 --> 01:10:37,634
I'm sorry, Mr. Stall.

1373
01:10:37,634 --> 01:10:39,698
You wish to add something?

1374
01:10:39,698 --> 01:10:40,385
Yeah.

1375
01:10:40,385 --> 01:10:41,073
OK.

1376
01:10:41,073 --> 01:10:42,257
Katrina online.

1377
01:10:42,257 --> 01:10:46,457
Has she weighed in or
is she able to speak?

1378
01:10:46,457 --> 01:10:48,017
She's not online.

1379
01:10:48,017 --> 01:10:49,907
She's online Oh, right.

1380
01:10:49,907 --> 01:10:50,407
OK.

1381
01:10:50,407 --> 01:10:51,007
I'm sorry.

1382
01:10:51,007 --> 01:10:53,067
I'm sorry Ms..

1383
01:10:53,067 --> 01:10:53,567
Metzger.

1384
01:10:53,567 --> 01:10:54,125
I'm sorry.

1385
01:10:54,125 --> 01:11:18,377
I didn't realize you joined us
I'm not showing her as muted I.

1386
01:11:18,377 --> 01:11:24,797
I don't believe she's
available So with that in mind,

1387
01:11:24,797 --> 01:11:30,677
we have 4, 2, three
in favor of keeping

1388
01:11:30,677 --> 01:11:38,687
this sign With that in mind, of
would you please call the vote?

1389
01:11:38,687 --> 01:11:41,087
And this So the vote is clear.

1390
01:11:41,087 --> 01:11:49,007
Voting in favor votes
for votes for the passing

1391
01:11:49,007 --> 01:11:54,437
and keeping the sign
a vote against means,

1392
01:11:54,437 --> 01:11:57,467
you know, not keeping
not approving anything.

1393
01:11:57,467 --> 01:11:59,607
Basically is what
a no vote means.

1394
01:11:59,607 --> 01:12:00,107
Right.

1395
01:12:00,107 --> 01:12:04,337
So that those are
the conditions And I

1396
01:12:04,337 --> 01:12:08,867
it seems to me that in general,
people are in favor of this.

1397
01:12:08,867 --> 01:12:10,277
And the sign is the question.

1398
01:12:10,277 --> 01:12:12,501
So Mr. Mayor.

1399
01:12:12,501 --> 01:12:13,001
Yes.

1400
01:12:13,001 --> 01:12:13,501
Yes.

1401
01:12:13,501 --> 01:12:15,497
Clarify what you
just said So you're

1402
01:12:15,497 --> 01:12:17,597
saying that if people
vote no, they're

1403
01:12:17,597 --> 01:12:19,607
also voting no to the Super?

1404
01:12:19,607 --> 01:12:20,777
That is correct.

1405
01:12:20,777 --> 01:12:24,471
They the clarification
that Mr. Mayor, that just

1406
01:12:24,471 --> 01:12:26,417
means that the motion
fails and a new motion

1407
01:12:26,417 --> 01:12:27,197
would have to be made.

1408
01:12:27,197 --> 01:12:30,077
That's exactly right Yes.

1409
01:12:30,077 --> 01:12:32,717
Without the sign.

1410
01:12:32,717 --> 01:12:34,466
Well, you're also
voting down the.

1411
01:12:34,466 --> 01:12:37,277
Yes, you pay no,
you're voting that.

1412
01:12:37,277 --> 01:12:41,027
You there could be you would
you would be voting down.

1413
01:12:41,027 --> 01:12:42,647
Scuse me, Mayor,
you would be voting

1414
01:12:42,647 --> 01:12:43,928
down this particular motion.

1415
01:12:43,928 --> 01:12:45,312
If you voted no.

1416
01:12:45,312 --> 01:12:47,777
And that vote carried
no you would say,

1417
01:12:47,777 --> 01:12:52,727
okay, the motion to approve this
permit with the condition fails.

1418
01:12:52,727 --> 01:12:54,107
However, the floor
would still be

1419
01:12:54,107 --> 01:12:57,107
open for a motion to approve
it without the condition

1420
01:12:57,107 --> 01:12:58,547
pertaining to the sign.

1421
01:12:58,547 --> 01:13:01,697
And that, I believe, is what
staff would recommend that you

1422
01:13:01,697 --> 01:13:05,567
follow per their recommendation
and the staff report

1423
01:13:05,567 --> 01:13:09,899
to make sure that the permit
is not an address at all.

1424
01:13:09,899 --> 01:13:13,157
I Mr. Mayor, then why
did we add a condition?

1425
01:13:13,157 --> 01:13:16,217
I thought we were going to
negotiate that separately I'm

1426
01:13:16,217 --> 01:13:17,237
just confused.

1427
01:13:17,237 --> 01:13:22,847
The condition is a proposal to
vote on But if it votes down,

1428
01:13:22,847 --> 01:13:27,257
you may still vote too on
the actual underly permit

1429
01:13:27,257 --> 01:13:28,667
without the condition.

1430
01:13:28,667 --> 01:13:32,477
And you say to close the
application before you.

1431
01:13:32,477 --> 01:13:39,677
Yes, thank you It's a
clear as mud It's clear.

1432
01:13:39,677 --> 01:13:44,147
So, Madam Clerk, would
you please call the vote?

1433
01:13:44,147 --> 01:13:45,437
Councilmember johnston.

1434
01:13:45,437 --> 01:13:54,557
Yes Mayor Pro Tem Barnicle Yes
Councilmember Schneiderman Yes.

1435
01:13:54,557 --> 01:14:00,887
Councilmember Metzger
Councilmember Wiesner.

1436
01:14:00,887 --> 01:14:06,107
Oh Councilmember stall.

1437
01:14:06,107 --> 01:14:11,747
Yes Councilmember Doyle No.

1438
01:14:11,747 --> 01:14:12,737
Councilmember Nelson.

1439
01:14:12,737 --> 01:14:16,007
Oh, no The motion
passes with four.

1440
01:14:16,007 --> 01:14:17,927
Affirmative votes.

1441
01:14:17,927 --> 01:14:21,767
I'd you have Now that approval.

1442
01:14:21,767 --> 01:14:23,657
I don't think any of
the council members

1443
01:14:23,657 --> 01:14:27,587
are anything but excited
about having you here.

1444
01:14:27,587 --> 01:14:30,291
The signage, the what was
in question I understand.

1445
01:14:30,291 --> 01:14:35,657
I understand Thank
you very well.

1446
01:14:35,657 --> 01:14:38,657
If you would, please
tell us about the timing

1447
01:14:38,657 --> 01:14:39,947
that you anticipate.

1448
01:14:39,947 --> 01:14:42,767
Yes Congressman, we
look forward to joining

1449
01:14:42,767 --> 01:14:46,487
your city, hopefully in 2028.

1450
01:14:46,487 --> 01:14:50,597
So group on is leasing that
building until June 30th of next

1451
01:14:50,597 --> 01:14:54,017
year And then should all of
the permitting and process

1452
01:14:54,017 --> 01:14:55,697
go well on the next steps?

1453
01:14:55,697 --> 01:14:58,577
We would love to start
construction after they are out,

1454
01:14:58,577 --> 01:15:00,917
which is June 30th of 2027.

1455
01:15:00,917 --> 01:15:03,647
And then it will take us
about a year to 14 months

1456
01:15:03,647 --> 01:15:07,097
to be able to make this all
that we've promised it would be.

1457
01:15:07,097 --> 01:15:11,057
So for, let's say,
loosely fall of 2028,

1458
01:15:11,057 --> 01:15:12,407
Chapel will call
Greenwood Village

1459
01:15:12,407 --> 01:15:15,077
home Well, thank you very much.

1460
01:15:15,077 --> 01:15:15,990
Appreciate it.

1461
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:17,021
And welcome to the community.

1462
01:15:17,021 --> 01:15:17,537
Thank you.

1463
01:15:17,537 --> 01:15:17,981
You.

1464
01:15:17,981 --> 01:15:18,514
Congratulations.

1465
01:15:18,514 --> 01:15:19,093
Thank you.

1466
01:15:19,093 --> 01:15:19,760
Thank you.

1467
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:20,427
Thank you.

1468
01:15:20,427 --> 01:15:21,094
Thank you.

1469
01:15:21,094 --> 01:15:28,487
Council Moving on to reports of
officers, boards and committees,

1470
01:15:28,487 --> 01:15:32,177
are there any
reports to be shared

1471
01:15:32,177 --> 01:15:36,647
when to come visit That's what.

1472
01:15:36,647 --> 01:15:37,337
Thank you, sir.

1473
01:15:37,337 --> 01:15:38,597
Appreciate it.

1474
01:15:38,597 --> 01:15:47,657
Thank you, Mr. And
good luck to you

1475
01:15:47,657 --> 01:15:56,568
30 reports that people would
like to share Mr. Jackson,

1476
01:15:56,568 --> 01:16:02,087
do you have none
tonight, sir Then may

1477
01:16:02,087 --> 01:16:05,367
I have a motion to
adjourn So move.

1478
01:16:05,367 --> 01:16:05,867
Second.

1479
01:16:05,867 --> 01:16:07,517
Desertion Thank you.

1480
01:16:07,517 --> 01:16:09,140
All those in favor please say.

1481
01:16:09,140 --> 01:16:11,597
Please say I Those opposed.

1482
01:16:11,597 --> 01:16:13,847
Nay.

1483
01:16:13,847 --> 01:16:14,715
The motion passes.

1484
01:16:14,715 --> 01:16:16,667
We will move to the
community room for the study

1485
01:16:16,667 --> 01:16:21,397
session Mr. Mayor.