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Uh good evening all. It is Thursday,
August 27th.

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Um and uh we are kicking off the lake
management task force uh meeting um

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online and we will call the meeting to
order at 5:05.

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So uh so welcome everybody and we Yeah.
and Morris is joining us as well. I see

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I think he's just about to join us. So,
our first um item is to approve the

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agenda.
Hello Morris, can you hear us?

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» Yeah.
>> Great. Fantastic. So, we've just kicked

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off the meeting.

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Um, so we're on item number two to
approve the agenda that the Lake

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Management Task Force approve the agenda
as amended or circulated. Um, may I have

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a mover and a seconder? Richard and Ken.
So, as circulated. Uh, any discussion?

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Dan,
are you ready to vote

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or did you have a comment?
>> Oh, yes. ready to vote.

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» Okay, those in favor
and that is carried. Thank you so much.

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Um, so if you do have any pecunary
interests to declare, you can always do

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so at that time.
Um, so our next item

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is uh that the lake management task
force approve the minutes of 2026-07-30

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as amended or as circulated. May I have
a mover and a seconder for the minutes?

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Thank you, Richard, and thank you,
Morris. So, as circulated, any comments?

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Okay, I see none. So, we'll take that to
a vote. Those in favor?

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And that is carried unanimously. Thanks
very much.

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All right. [clears throat] So, we are
now um on the item number five. So, it

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is the um report.
Uh so, we can do a motion at the end. Uh

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but what I'd like to do um propose to do
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a flip through of the report. Um
would that make best sense to to folks

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so that you know if we just take each
section one by one uh and we do a

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sequential just flip through through the
report. If you have any comments,

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questions
um then then we can document it that

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way. What uh so given um that this is
our final meeting,

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what we will do is um if there are any
amendments to this report, we'll capture

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them at the very end of our
conversation. Um and then I'll I'll take

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away those amendments
um amend the amend this report, you

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know, as per our conversation and then
that amended report will then be sent

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off to council as our final uh report.
Uh, does that make sense?

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» Sounds good to me.
>> Okay, fantastic. Um, and now before we

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maybe just do fliproughs, is there maybe
any just general comments that anybody

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would like to make before we just start
flipping through kind of page by page

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and ensure that we we get any comments?
>> Job on it? I have no other comments.

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» Okay. So, we'll just we'll just start
flipping through.

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Um, okay. So, we have our table of
contents.

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Um, I So, so I I can add
I think I just I missed a couple of uh

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pages there. I I can add the sub uh page
sections. I just did it at the at the

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major sections for each one, but but I
can I can fill in all the all the

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numbers for that. So, that is what I
will do.

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» Okay.
add page numbers for all.

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Um the next section is about the lake
management task force. Um so that hasn't

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really changed.
>> Oh just

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sorry Nadia just very very minor thing
on the table of contents.

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» Yes
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[clears throat] a space missing

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just to line them all up.
>> 5.2 to action one.

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Oh,
>> I'm moving to another room.

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» I see it.

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» Sorry, Dan. You're you're moving to
another location.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah, it's very

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splotchy here. I'm going to come closer.
>> Okay, sounds good. There there is the

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room just off the off the council
chambers here. Yep.

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» It's It's comfy, too.

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Okay. So, oh, so, so I did get that
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» That's all.
>> Perfect.

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And I'm going to let Dan walk through

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Carry on Eddie, I can hear you.

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Okay, great.
Uh so the next page is about the lake

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management task force. Uh, so this
hasn't changed for for a few versions

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now. Any comments here?
I see none. Uh, executive summary.

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Uh, the one thing I think I will add in
the executive summary, um, I'm going to

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just add, if that's okay, um, just a
a characterization,

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um, sentence for each,
uh, lake.

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because that's that's one section that I
really didn't capture here and I I think

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it's important to just um
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to highlight sort of the sort of the
differences. So, you know, the fact that

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uh Lake Eugenia is a reservoir, you
know, Brewers is a private lake, um, you

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know, Irish,
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you know, kind of smaller lake with a
small um, and then Will Cox. So, so I'll

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just add a sort of a characterization
sentence. So, you know, for the

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executive summary, it's not supposed to
create anything new. It's really just to

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capture um, something that's already
really existing within the report. Uh is

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there anything else kind of missing
maybe from the executive summary from

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from your perspectives?

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I did add one news um one new table
that's in the main body as well and it's

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captured in the executive summary um is
an overview of the proposed actions and

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recommendations by key lead groups. Um,
so it's it's on page four and five.

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Um, and I thought that might be helpful
so that we can then recommend specific

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items to uh to council like so the
current council. Um, you know, we do

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have I think we might be able to still
squeeze this report in uh in September

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and so council will have the opportunity
and we we can ask to for for a report to

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come back um on the items um highlighted
um for for this current council and and

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that is one item that I I do want to
gain your feedback on. So if we do take

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a look at page four

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we have so the first section on page
four so the overview recommendation by

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key leads so speaking so first speaks to
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uh first bucket are the items that have
been implemented or are in progress so

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we're highlighting there things that we
we have already been able to action or

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things that Bray Highlands is is already
doing such as um the septic

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reinspection. So fertilizer, septic
reinspection and then the water quality

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testing items.
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the second uh piece is to be considered
um recommendations to be considered

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maybe uh to be considered now by the
current council. So given the fact that

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they're more they're quick win rankings
and have a lower resource and funding

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need.
Uh so those are so that's the tidy yards

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bylaw allowing the naturalized gardens
and and longer

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uh grass lengths
a signage strategy.

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the invasive species
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the enhanced public beach access points
conditions

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a comprehensive communication plan
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um committee. So it's it may be just
being you know open to participating you

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know in some sort of format of a of a
lake management committee moving forward

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and advocating to public uh
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bodies you know as as needed or as
required um when we think about um you

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know our lake our lakes and and um I
think the one item there would be you

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know creating stronger working relation
ations with OPG.

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» Um, Nadia, can I just um for the second
last one there, the I guess the working

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group participation, are are you sort of
suggesting that the current council

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set it up for the next term or for or
for the next year or something like that

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or or
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decided.
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structure but recommending
um participation if a structure does um

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form
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» I don't necessarily believe um there
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committee under council
you know my my belief and my perspective

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is you know if there was um a council or
a committee formed in the community with

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those who are interested in lake
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Um that could be one way. Um the other
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uh but it would require dollars. say if
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that there was good
um coordination going forward and could

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ask the cons the conservation areas the
conservation authority. So we would pay

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the conservation authority
um you know to hire you know fund

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somebody to take the lead to do
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» So, it's more about participation and
the ask would be um for a staff report

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to come back. So, it wouldn't be saying,
"Hey, go ahead and do this." It would be

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asking um the the way I would see this
work is the request would be for staff

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report to come back [clears throat] to
see um you know, what could be done,

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right? So in terms of of a tidy yards
bylot, you know, so kind of confirming

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um so yes, we don't have one and we
could add naturalized gardens. So to

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allow, you know, um properties to have,
you know, the the native, you know, tall

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native grasses, you know, in their front
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» Um you know, a signage strategy. So, you
know, so as we speak to better um a more

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coordinated sign, you know, for invasive
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know, invasive species or uh board
boating restrictions, etc. You know,

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when we think about
the Lake Eugenia, you know, when we were

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down there, there's there's a whole
bunch of old older um signages over

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time. you know, I think there's an
opportunity to review all those signages

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and and I and the boat launch, you know,
organization, that Eugenia committee

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there, uh they too believe there needs
to be uh you know, a review of all those

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signages. And I think as we do that and
and and create um you know QR codes on

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them so you know so it could go back to
some sort of a come back to a grey

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highlands lake management website you
know a permanent website with all the

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information um then all those kind of
signages there should also be

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appropriate signages at all access
points as well

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only just in terms of you know the the
current council is is sort of at the end

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of their uh end of their rope as it were
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» whether it it it will might fall to the
next one too. So, but so what could

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happen is um this current council
because you know this has been a task

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force under the current council we could
ask them for staff report on these kind

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of more I'll call them kind of quick
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» right um lower you know less um less
effort resourcing um and if you ask for

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a staff report to come back it won't
come back to this current council but it

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would come back to the next council
Okay, that's yeah. Okay, that makes

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sense. I understand now.
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So, um so the question is so I I'm going
to pause here because I think this is

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sort of important. Um does does this
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» Yeah, I think the structure is is very
clear as to what how things fall fall

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Is there something that should be there
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And then when we take a look at the
third bucket, you know, so those two,

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you know, items to be considered for,
you know, incoming potentially incoming

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um council. So these so these are items
that would require greater resourcing

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you know so something like so you know
that that includes the comprehensive

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lake studies right because that that
would require significant monies say if

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we wanted to do a wholesome
you know scientific study of of Lake

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Eugenia for example
um roadside native plant buffers so that

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could be like an adopt a road um
approach kind of uh plant buffer

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program.

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Um, a wash station, right? So, because
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a carrying capacity study for Lake
Eugenia. So, that would be from a

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planning perspective
and would require dollars. Um, a

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protective lake plan and bylaw. So
that'd be more of a review of maybe

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potential other items, but that that
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because I I really don't know what what
that would be. Um and then enhance the

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boat launch. Um so with in conversation
with the that Eugenia the Eugenia

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development uh committee there
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you know they are I think they are
looking to continue to um have

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conversations [clears throat]
uh with staff and and with council to

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ensure that they are maintaining um that
boat launch in good uh so so

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[clears throat] that you know it isn't
it uh is maintained well Um, I think one

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of the items, you know, that was brought
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the landscaping, you know, so the dock
seems to be still okay, but the

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landscaping of the uh the uh the
shoreline um maybe some concerns there.

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Um you know, as boats come in and you
know, might be bumping up against uh the

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so so you know so so I think it's good
to under you know under maybe just to

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highlight that um and you know the group
will continue you know to um you know to

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meet with staff and with to move these
issues with with council.

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So so any any comments on that?
Does the

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does the grouping seem to make sense?
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references to all of the subtasks, I
mean, it makes it comprehensive and easy

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to find. I didn't find anything that
wasn't in this report. I mean, you could

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argue something should be done next week
as opposed to next year, but I think it

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covers all the areas.
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Okay. Thank you.
And then on page five um so then these

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are proposed recommendations you know
that um could be led you know by group

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and like associations.
So when we look at what is already being

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implemented or in progress so water
quality testing um so Laoa you know is

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doing um some testing along with friends
uh the lake studies so that's you know

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the friends of like Eugenia you know has
been doing that um and then items that

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could be considered you know at the at
the lake association as potential leads

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uh could [clears throat] be you know
additional water quality testing uh

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there's the Irish like um it also we
also do recommend um more testing at

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Eugenia. So I do you know um so we we
have as recommended the five locations

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those five sites
um because Laoa is just focused on the

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green blue algae uh but if we believe
the fullome you know phosphorus etc

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should be um uh tested as well I I'll
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Um, so reviewing, you know, no wake
zones, review boating restrictions,

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continue to enhance boat launch,
continue to enhance the communication

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plans, continue to enhance education
plans, consider like management

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committee work and coordinated efforts
and, you know, advocate to government

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bodies and agencies.
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continue and to review, you know,
because we do know, you know, the lake

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associations already do this work, but
there is the opportunity to to enhance.

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» Yeah, it's an ongoing thing, Nadia.
>> I'm just waiting for the next invasive

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species to come along and change the
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» you know, honestly. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

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» [clears throat]
>> Um, so anything else kind of missing?

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» No, we've covered this. This is good.
>> Okay, fantastic. Okay, so then we'll

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move along to page six, uh, the
introduction.

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Any comments on that?

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So, am I missing any information
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» Okay.

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» Okay. So, we'll keep going. Um 1.2 lake
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eight.
Um so, this is straight from our survey.

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So, so we've captured um [clears throat]
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responses in the bar chart and then also
included the top top five issues

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identified uh by each lake. And I think
what you know what's interesting is um

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you know because there are some
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you do take a look by you know at a by
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does pop up for brewers Wilcox and
Irish. So I think that's of interest.

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Uh any comments here?
Okay I don't see none. So we'll keep

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going. Uh the lake management plan
guiding principles. So we so that has

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been there for some time. Uh the only
thing that I did add was on page nine

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the second uh guiding principle
recognize the links between the human

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health environmental health which
support I added the economic health

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aspect because um I didn't want to lose
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» because um
because we we do hear that from from

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residents because they do worry about
their valuation. Jim,

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» sorry, just back to your pie charts,
your piraphphs.

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there's some categories that aren't
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does I didn't check if that added to a
100% or not?

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» Um, so yes. So the pi graphs are um the
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concerns. So, taking just the top five
concerns.

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» Oh, there it says that there. Okay.
Thank you.

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» Okay.
Okay. Um,

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[clears throat]
okay.

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» Just to just to kind of keep it simple.
Um, and to just

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» trying to tease out maybe any key
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Mhm. So we didn't consider adding it in
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like still still presenting the five top
but in the pie chart having a slice for

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the other
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» So So the bar chart um represents
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» the responses there, right?
>> Yes. Yes. [clears throat]

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» I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
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if these pie charts could represent like
I like the pie charts and I think it

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shows clearly what the issues the the
main issues are just

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adding in a slice for the other stuff
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just think it's it's something that just
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picture because there are other things
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» So so so definitely there are
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you know having the full sum
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is helpful so you have the full spectrum
of of all the elements that were

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captured while just highlighting you
know what's what's the top concerns you

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know by like just it's more for
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» so I'm sorry um yeah I don't think
having like a um a pie slice marked

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other um I I think that would probably,
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a pie chart, you you expect that it adds
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» Mhm.
>> But again, it's it's a it's a minor.

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top five.
>> Oh, right.

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» Waiting associated with it, I think. Is
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» So that's right. Yes. So we just took
the top five issues.

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» Yeah.
um to to to show a waiting.

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» Yeah. Well, Cox like to add up to 100.

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» They all add up they all add up because
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So, it's not all, you know, so so say if
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» um responses for Lake Eugenia, right?
But if there were only 60 responses in

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the top five, then it it'd be 100%
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I personally I think it's it's best the
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put the other then question becomes
what's in the other and you're going to

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have small stuff like I know like the
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issue on Bruce's lake and it just
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» I think it it covers the covers the
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» like I said not not a big deal just
maybe a personal preference

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everything's presented did. So, it's
probably not it's not big deal. I don't

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Yeah, whatever. I'm not sure if you're
going to present it the one way, you

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have to present it the second way, but
whatever. We'll just we'll just move on.

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» Okay.
Because I guess I like I don't think it

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changes um the messaging in terms of
hey, here's the top five issues.

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No, it just it it does kind of highlight
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that there's any rationale for
highlighting one over another,

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right?
Because it's already shown it's already

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shown in the other the other graph, but
I guess you're trying to separate it by

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lake.
separated by like, what you start to

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see.
>> Yeah. Because what you start to see when

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you separate it by like is just, you
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they're a little bit different.
>> Um, and I think what's of interest when

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you take a look at the top five is, you
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Irish, they're more worried about um the
public access points, while Lake Eugenia

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is less worried about that, right? Lake
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systems and the other three aren't.
>> Okay. So that kind of brought me to my

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other question which was um so this is
fine. I don't think it needs to be

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changed but um the public so are these
things defined I can't remember like

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public access
do we discuss what that means like is

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public access access mean we want to
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we want to limit access to the public
>> so um so the way it was just

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highlighted or the way it was stated in
the um questionnaire in the survey is as

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you see in the bar chart.
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» Okay.
>> So, so this is where you know if you

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want to continue to have
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so if we were to continue to move on the
issue of hey uh for public access you

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know what do we need to change or what
do we need to address? So this would be

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the next step of moving on the action
point,

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» okay,
>> to to have those conversations.

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But we haven't had that conversation as
a task force. However, it is on the list

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on the recommendation list. Um you know,
if you go back to page four,

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um
it's a call it like um under the quick

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win, right? So to ask for a report back,
you know, from um from staff, you know,

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to, you know, about enhancing access
points conditions

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» and so staff would bring back a report
in terms of, hey, these were the these

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were things I would probably have to
consider if we wanted to move on it.

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» So again, I wouldn't come back, you
know, in terms of uh next steps.

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» Okay, good enough.

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Okay. Um, so, so thank you for that,
Jim.

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Okay. So, page nine were the guiding
principles.

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So, anything on that?

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Okay.
Uh, page 10. So, 1.4 four is the lake

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management interest holding groups.

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Um so still pretty similar to what we
saw last time. I made a couple of tweaks

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just to add a little bit more um
information.

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And I did add Sheila did ask to for
where was it? The Ontario Soil and Crop

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Improvement Association was added under
agriculture.

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So I did add that.

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Any comments on that?

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Okay. So moving to the back the section
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the like background characterization.

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Um, and Ken, you did um you did
highlight two items in in your email

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when you reviewed. I did not change
anything yet, so you'll have to remind

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me when we get to them.
>> Okay. I have to go back and look at what

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they were.
Okay.

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» Uh, so 2.1 Lake Eugenia,
we did update the depth profile

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uh images. So they so they are more
clearer now.

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And then we still have the the zoning
view.

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And then there's Brewster's Lake.

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and Brewster's Lake was. So, thank you
um Richard. We updated Brewster Lake for

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the number of
lots and properties around. So, 70 lots

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within the subdivision and 28 are
waterfront properties.

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Then we have Irish Lake

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and Will Cox Lake.

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So any comments on any of those four?

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Okay, I see none. So, we'll keep moving.
So, and if you want to pause at any

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point, just let me know.

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So, lake management objectives on page
20.

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So we did change uh the wording slightly
to number one to maintain and improve

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healthy water quality conditions.
Also added um in the objective number

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one under the issues addressed the
second last bullet the presence of toxic

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uh blue green algae blooms zebra muscles
unknown cause.

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» I'm I'm gonna jump in here. Um, is that
we sus it's sorry I think a suspected

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cause. I don't know. Do we have ev is
there evidence out there? I'm just

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thinking from what we've been reading
over the last little while.

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I I know the [clears throat] uh
the friends of Lake Eugenia have a very

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different approach.
There's there's lots of research

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material published research material
from uh respected authorities that

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indicate that zebra muscles has an
impact because they eat the algae that

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would otherwise consume some of the
nutrients that are leftovers. There's

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more nutrients for the for the blue
green algae to to feed [clears throat]

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on.
>> No competition.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

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» So, yeah. So, we do have research that
supports that. Um, we don't have

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specific research on luggenia itself,
but there is known research and so if

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that needs to be rewarded because I I
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So, if that needs to be more specific,
um maybe that doesn't

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um

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» actually I I did see some of that same
research think looking back thinking

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about it. Um but perhaps there's a
there's a better way to to phrase that.

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» Yeah. Um
but I I think even really our our issue

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is the regardless of the cause or the
the issue that that we we need to

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address is the presence of the allergy
blooms.

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» Yes. But I also did want to highlight um
the zebra muscles because I think it's I

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didn't I don't want to lose that either
because I think it's something that

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we've talked about as a committee
>> as a

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» and or or what we can say um you know
you know zebra something to the effect

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of zebra muscle is a known cause um and
is

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um

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how do you say that like it's a maybe um
a potential

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suspected or potential cause. Is that
what you want to say?

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» Yeah. Kind of like it's a hypothesis.
>> Yeah. Or a contributing factor.

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» Yeah. So you could say zebra muscles are
potent. Exactly.

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» I would agree with that. I Yeah.
>> Yeah. Potentially contributing factor.

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» Yeah. So zebra muscles.
>> So it stays but just

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» it may not be [clears throat] all the
problem but it may be very well part of

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the problem. For sure. For sure. For
sure.

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» Um, okay. So, zebra muscle's a
potentially contributing factor.

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» Is that better?
>> I like it.

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» Okay,
good.

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Okay.

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Okay, any any other um comments on these

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moving along. Um so thank you Jim for
the best practices.

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Now I do want to pause on this. What? So
the one change Jim what the one change I

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did when I brought it in was I I took
out maybe I took out all the sort of the

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government references like from a
academic perspective because I thought

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maybe I would just capture it in the ref
like in at the end at the references but

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then as I'm thinking about it it still
may be helpful for it to be just in the

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um in the text itself. Um and so so what
I'd like to So if Jim if that's I I do

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just want to kind of get your um
feedback on this because if that still

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makes sense what I'll do is I'll bring
it back in. Um and the only and the only

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item that I took out um in terms of the
uh point sources was

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the um wastewater treatment plants
because it it because you know it wasn't

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it's not it's not a factor on our lakes
right now.

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Yeah, I don't think so. Um,
>> or maybe because we do have one in

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Kimberly in Talisman and we have the
>> the lagoons there

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» that's not contributing to the
>> that would contribute.

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» Yeah,
>> not here. I'm trying to think if there

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would be any elsewhere. I don't think
so. Eugenia would be the one and I don't

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think there's anything upstream.
Uh

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00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:49,920
» and the storm water management ponds I
like I don't know of any right now that

428
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:57,440
would
>> there is I know there is like so for

429
00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:01,599
example uh Ice River Springs has one and
some others do as well with

430
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:07,359
contributions to the beaver which ends
up in the in the lake.

431
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:10,960
» Okay.
>> Yeah, you're right though. Like I don't

432
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:15,040
think there's any wastewater ones. I'd
have to think about that. I don't

433
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:21,200
believe there is
>> they would be private and I'm not sure

434
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:26,640
there is any so like you say there may
be in the future right so if you have

435
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:32,640
some development that proceeds and there
is changes at the ministry the

436
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:39,760
environment to permit or actually it's a
long story but wastewater treatment

437
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:45,280
plants for small private developments
have been uh

438
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:50,000
uh rejected by municipalities and so
they won't sign municipal responsibility

439
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:54,960
agreements with with the developers but
the mun the the government has changed

440
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:59,200
the laws around that so they may need to
be accepted so you may see them more of

441
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:03,680
them in the future
um but anyway it's not there now so I

442
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:08,480
don't think it's important to leave that
in fine to take it out

443
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:12,720
» okay that's the only one I took out
>> uh storm water I think you might want to

444
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,320
leave in because it will be and is
included in any development, new

445
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,960
development,
>> uh, which you would have some proposed

446
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:26,160
at least in the watershed and some and
as I say, you have some at

447
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:31,280
Ice River Springs and some other spots
along the way, I think. So, probably a

448
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:35,760
good one to leave in.
In terms of the references, I'll leave

449
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:39,440
that to your discretion. You you can
>> Yeah. Do Do you have a a strong view

450
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:44,640
either way?
>> I do not. No, I mean you could you could

451
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:49,680
bring it leave it in or take it out. I
think it was referenced for the purposes

452
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:53,440
of for someone to to look it up in the
future. It wasn't really

453
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,040
» it's public information that we were
using. So I don't think it was anything

454
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:00,400
that needed necessarily to be
referenced.

455
00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:04,793
» Okay. Okay. Because then what I'll I'll
make sure it's um it is also included in

456
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,040
in our references. So So maybe
[clears throat] I'll leave it the way

457
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,920
this is now then.
>> Sure.

458
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,920
» Okay.

459
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:18,359
Um, so any any comments uh from other
members on on this section?

460
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:31,319
But it's a good it's a good overview of
like non-point and and point sources

461
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,319
and thank you for that uh Jim.

462
00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:36,960
» Okay.
So then if we Ken

463
00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:44,560
» sorry page 22 as part of this that's
where I had my my little comment no till

464
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:53,760
cropping there's a extra space in there
>> okay so so we're on page 22 sorry

465
00:41:48,079 --> 00:42:00,160
» um the second uh um but bullet relevant
BMP recommendations

466
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,433
» okay yes no space
>> okay

467
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:07,040
» I know I hang up on these things.
[laughter]

468
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:10,119
» You have an eagle eye. Thank you.
>> All right.

469
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:20,440
Right. Okay. So then if we're moving
along. Okay. So page 27. So now we're

470
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,440
into the actions and recommendations.

471
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:29,800
Uh so so first we have the introduction.

472
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:38,760
We talk about the actions and
recommendations uh strategic themes

473
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:48,400
and then on page 28 we talk about the
prioritization just a little description

474
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,400
of the pri prioritization chart that
follows.

475
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:59,119
» So I'll just pause here for a moment. Is
are there any comments on this section

476
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:02,119
on these three first kind of two three
pages?

477
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:12,079
» It's good.
>> Okay. And then on page 29

478
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:18,240
uh so with the prioritization chart so
made the changes as we discussed at our

479
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:23,280
last meeting and then I did add the one
item 12F

480
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:30,640
advocate to government bodies
and 12F got grouped in with 12DF.

481
00:43:28,895 --> 00:43:35,680
[snorts] So, education plan like
management

482
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:40,920
uh committee work and advocacy
work.

483
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,920
Does that make sense?

484
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:04,319
Okay.
Uh so then we if we keep moving along on

485
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:08,560
page 30 we have the um so we saw this
chart um be brought up to the front to

486
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:14,560
the executive summary. So this is just a
bit of that kind of overview by a lead

487
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,200
um
by key lead.

488
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:26,400
Uh so kind of breaking it out between
what we could maybe push with uh you

489
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:30,480
know with council and the municipality
um and versus

490
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:37,319
you know where
community groups would be would more

491
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:37,319
naturally be key leads.

492
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:52,640
Okay. So moving along.
So then getting into the actions and

493
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,640
recommendations
um

494
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:03,680
section
the with the the more detailed section.

495
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:08,839
So the first one is the water. So action
number one water quality testing on page

496
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:08,839
32.

497
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:19,280
So I don't think anything's changed
here.

498
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,280
We did correct for the five

499
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:28,280
I just want to make sure for the five
test sites.

500
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,280
Um

501
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:39,599
yeah, it's on page 33 1B. So add
additional test sites on Lake Eugenia.

502
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:45,079
Five sites because I think um before we
there is we were using both four and

503
00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:45,079
five. So it's five

504
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:55,680
Then on page 34, we have the Lake
Eugenia

505
00:45:53,200 --> 00:46:01,480
with the five pins. One, two, three,
four, five. So those are the proposed

506
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,480
testing sites.

507
00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:17,760
Then we have the Brewers Lake map
with the one like partner site.

508
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:24,480
Irish Lake. We added a pin for the
proposed for a proposed testing site.

509
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:32,880
Ken, can you remind me? Did we ask lake
partners if we could do Irish Lake?

510
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:39,480
» Um I Okay, let me think about that
exactly what the status was.

511
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,480
Um,

512
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:48,240
at one point they were a little earlier
on they were resistant to adding

513
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:54,800
uh new sites but I mean then we came
back and we were able to you know

514
00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:58,079
reestablish the site on Brewster Lake.
Um I I

515
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:02,240
» or Wilox
>> I mean sorry on Wilox.

516
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:06,040
» Mhm.
>> And uh

517
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:13,119
I think I think it'd be a case of
starting from the point of view of

518
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:17,119
having a volunteer on on Irish Lake,
>> right?

519
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:22,119
» Okay. and and sort of taking from that I
I think it's a case of they can be

520
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:22,119
persuaded

521
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:30,880
but um yeah that's still that's still
left as a a task to be undertaken going

522
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,720
forward
>> okay

523
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:39,040
because you know if we go back to Irish
Lake you know the concerns you know our

524
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:42,640
little pie charts
>> um

525
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,640
the number two concern was limited
monitoring and testing

526
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:46,640
» exactly

527
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,440
No. Okay.

528
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:00,440
Uh and then on page 37, so Will Cox like

529
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,240
» and Morris, you you've started that.

530
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,839
» Oh, I can't hear you.

531
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:26,079
Yeah, I I started the sampling in May.
>> Excellent.

532
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:28,720
» It's I've been doing it every month. I
got one to do this month and one next

533
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,720
month.
>> Fantastic.

534
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:36,000
» That's awesome. I've I've just I've just
guessed at where in the lakes you're

535
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:42,079
taking your samples. It's just a
artist's representation.

536
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:48,319
» Yeah. And it it's pretty close.
And uh I I know the I talked to you Ken

537
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:55,359
about the one the maps that showed the
depths and how far they are on Wilox

538
00:48:51,280 --> 00:49:00,160
Lake. There's nowhere that deep on any
on the lakes.

539
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:02,480
» Okay. I don't know where those those I
mean I don't know where that

540
00:49:01,638 --> 00:49:08,480
[clears throat]
that service got that information from.

541
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:16,640
And the uh I'm doing the two sites at
the same time and the clarity in the

542
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:19,760
back lake is far better than Wilox Lake.
>> H

543
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,760
interesting.
>> Yeah.

544
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:26,319
» Well, it's much quieter there. I guess
there's less.

545
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:30,319
» Actually, it's been quiet around both
the lakes. All right. You

546
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:36,400
» see anybody?
>> Okay. Okay.

547
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:41,680
Thank you so much for doing that. course
and it looks like I'm going to be

548
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,640
continuing it on after this year.
>> Great.

549
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:48,240
» That's awesome. Thank you for
volunteering.

550
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:50,764
» Morris, trust me, once you get started,
nobody will let you get off of it.

551
00:49:50,109 --> 00:49:55,800
[laughter]
[clears throat]

552
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,800
» I'm on year 20.

553
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:06,000
» Okay. Um, so we're on page 38. So action
number two, the scientific research. I

554
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:09,480
don't think there's anything that's
changed here.

555
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:29,409
I think that's a see the GSCA completed
that lake study in I think it was 1976 I

556
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:33,359
think it was. I think that's
[clears throat] something that maybe

557
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:38,880
should be undertaken again. That's
probably really outdated. And I

558
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:45,839
every time there's something that comes
up for a vote on adding more homes and

559
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:49,920
stuff around Lake Genie, I vote it down.
Whether it's allowed or not, I don't

560
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:58,240
know. Wait, [clears throat]
I think it's totally overbuilt now.

561
00:50:53,520 --> 00:51:05,839
» Yeah. Um so yeah. Um so so that would be
you know like a like a um part of

562
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:09,280
Yes. So that would be if if we want to
move forward with that that would be

563
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:14,000
dollars needed to to move forward.
>> Yeah. If I if I get reelected I think

564
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:19,599
that's something I might advocate for.
>> Yeah. Okay. And and it is in the list of

565
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:22,800
you know [clears throat] for council um
going forward.

566
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,119
» Okay.
>> It's great.

567
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,920
Um,

568
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:37,640
okay. Page 39's the stewardship septic
system management.

569
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:47,640
I don't think anything's changed there.
Storm water runoff management action

570
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,640
four on page 40.

571
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:09,920
Um just on the the storm water um um
maintaining water quality.

572
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:15,599
I'm not so sure
like they're they're mainly designed to

573
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:22,726
to catch the silt and and stuff like
that. uh slow the water down so that the

574
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:27,520
the silt can settle out and then
[clears throat] even with uh sometimes

575
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:33,760
when you get a really big storm like the
the the ponds will get overwhelmed and

576
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:38,160
I'm not so sure that they're so designed
to filter out pollutants, you know, like

577
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,720
fertilizers and salt and stuff that
you've

578
00:52:39,756 --> 00:52:48,240
[clears throat]
you've set out there. Um

579
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:53,119
um
I don't know how you could word that

580
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:59,680
differently, Nadia. Um and definitely
erosion. That's that's definitely a

581
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:04,240
Yeah. Um
do you understand what I'm saying or?

582
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:08,480
» Yeah. So the so um so the first one
storm water runoff management along Lake

583
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:14,319
Shore is on the lake shures is critical
to help maintain water quality. So, it

584
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:18,319
helps filter harmful pollutants,
>> salt, and animal waste.

585
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:24,240
» Yeah. And they've they've they've
changed the way they designed them. They

586
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:30,480
used to let them run dry and and let the
water as it come in, it would filter out

587
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:36,400
and filter down through the the strata.
And now they they leave water in them.

588
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:40,960
Uh they actually want you to line them
so that they that they hold the water. I

589
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:46,480
guess the idea is if there's water in
there, it will slow the dirty water

590
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:50,800
coming down faster. And
>> um

591
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:55,920
yeah, and I'm not so sure that they're
designed for like to take out pollutants

592
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:59,680
and fertilizers and salt. And
>> so this like

593
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,160
» Are you think about storm water
management ponds?

594
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,599
» Yes.
>> So So this is Yeah. So this isn't the

595
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:11,760
storm water management ponds. This is
just um when we think about

596
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:15,280
um storm water runoff management. So
when you think about buffers

597
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,400
um
>> okay I see I understand what you're

598
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:22,000
talking about now.
>> Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

599
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:26,720
» And and so when you think about buffers
etc. you know I do see this language

600
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,839
» related to it.
>> Oh yes.

601
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,240
» It helps to filter
>> you know slow down and and helps to

602
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,359
filter
>> the grass and the cattails and Yeah.

603
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:37,040
Yeah. Before
>> Okay, you're absolutely right there.

604
00:54:37,002 --> 00:54:39,280
[clears throat]
>> Yep. You're right there. Yeah.

605
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,280
» Okay.
>> Yep.

606
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,800
» Uh Jim,
>> yeah, I think you handled it. I think

607
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,359
you handled the question, but I I you
know, interested to talk to member

608
00:54:51,040 --> 00:55:00,319
Wiccans about storm water pond design
anytime. there. He's pretty much correct

609
00:54:56,319 --> 00:55:07,680
except uh they are designed to remove
pollutants including nutrients

610
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:12,480
from uh incoming storm water whatever is
attached to the sediment. So there would

611
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:17,119
be nutrients attached and then
>> the the ponds are vegetated for removal

612
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:23,680
of
>> of um nutrients as well. But you're

613
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:28,079
correct about the removal of uh say road
salt. They are unable to do that.

614
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:30,880
» No, because it's it's in solution. Yeah,
>> that's right.

615
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:38,720
» Yeah.
>> Um so when it comes to these

616
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:43,359
shoreline buffers, um
I'm not sure what mechanism they have to

617
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,480
remove salts. Certainly, if they're
slowing the water and there's infiltrate

618
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,400
infiltration [clears throat]
into the ground, then that water with

619
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:55,520
salt will infiltrate into the ground.
That would be that would be true. So,

620
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:59,599
I'm not sure if that helps clarify that
point, but

621
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:06,640
» yeah, because so I think that is part of
the um you know, because like buffers

622
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:12,960
helps to slow down um water filtering
through, you know, into the ground

623
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:17,200
before it hits the lake.
Yeah. Are taken up by the plants, too.

624
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:20,400
Yeah. Yep.
>> So, is there anything that I should

625
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:25,040
remove or is it okay as is?
>> No, I think that's fine. I Yeah. I just

626
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:29,160
It was just the way that I was thinking
differently than you. Yeah.

627
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:36,480
» And this is where we speak to our
fertilizer bylaw,

628
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:41,400
ys bylaw, right? So, allow for
naturalized gardens. Um,

629
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:51,200
and and I'm also just going to add also
taller uh taller grass

630
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:55,520
uh heights.
Is that's it's actually I don't think

631
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,400
it's
I don't think it's stated there. So, I'm

632
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,440
just going to just add the taller grass
heights under 4B.

633
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:17,040
And then 4C, uh, so um, brushing
clearing to, so native plant buffers

634
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:24,480
along roadsides. Um, and it and it could
be a like a dot

635
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:33,359
like a DOT highway kind of a program, a
volunteer program. We we did actually

636
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:37,520
speak to this uh at council um
last month. Um it it was it was not

637
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:41,599
supported by council to move forward
with. Um so but maybe like a adopt a

638
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:50,480
highway kind of a program, a volunteer
program um to you know to volunteer and

639
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:55,920
uh and establish
plant buffers along roadsides might be

640
00:57:52,480 --> 00:58:02,240
um more more um applicable.
Does that make sense?

641
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:05,920
If I maybe just add those words
because it'll just maybe just kind of

642
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:11,880
change it up a bit because it was not it
was not uh it was not well supported by

643
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:11,880
by council.

644
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:18,920
» Uh page 41, the invasive species
management.

645
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:28,559
» I apologize for interrupting. I'm I'm as
we're going along, I'm just trying to

646
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:33,040
capture the amendments. And I I missed
what you had just indicated. I was

647
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:38,880
taking notes about um adding the taller
grass uh under 4B, but I missed um the

648
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:43,920
other amendment if there was one that
you were um suggesting about making.

649
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:46,640
» Yes. So for 4 C.
>> Okay.

650
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:50,559
» Um so I will add the words something to
the effect of a like adopt a highway

651
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:55,119
type program.
>> Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

652
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,119
» Thank you.

653
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:09,280
Um and then action number five invasive
species management

654
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:15,440
and where we do have signs like so you
know 5B we talk to the post infographic

655
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:22,240
signs and then where we do speak to
signs right after that I I'll state you

656
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:29,280
know as part of a um
you know as part of a signage strategy

657
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:32,480
because you know because we do speak to
um I think like three different kinds of

658
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:36,000
signs and I think that it all needs to
be coordinated you know as a broader

659
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:40,640
strategy so there you know so it's part
of sort of you know one kind of

660
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,640
communication
Mhm.

661
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:04,599
» Anything else for invasive species
management?

662
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:14,319
» That's good.
Okay.

663
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:18,920
Uh then the fisheries and wildlife
protection action six on page 43.

664
01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:24,119
So nothing has been changed here

665
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:33,720
any cross references to action 12 you
know in terms of education programs

666
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:47,319
and action shoreline
naturalization

667
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,319
action seven page 44

668
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:54,839
I got It cross references to education
programs.

669
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:11,240
Then action eight, responsible booting.

670
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:27,480
I don't think we've changed anything
since last time here.

671
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,480
» Okay.

672
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:36,240
» The the uh they're under 8C. I just
noticed that applying for restrictions.

673
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:40,359
It shouldn't be all four legs. Those two
lakes already have restrictions.

674
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:48,799
» Oh, okay. So, could it be maybe consider
applying? Maybe review and consider

675
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,799
applying because they could maybe
change.

676
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:02,240
Yeah, they could. But the way it's I
mean the this the scope [snorts] and I

677
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,400
think the intent is to say for those
that don't have any controls um we

678
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,000
should look at putting some controls in
place.

679
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:13,280
» Okay. So, so what we can do, so would it
make sense to because I'm just wondering

680
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:19,359
about, you know, kind of like um being
holistic. So, could we say um you know

681
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:23,359
um those that do have it to review and
two that don't have it should consider?

682
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:27,920
» Yeah, that's fine.
>> Okay. Which which which two have it and

683
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:34,559
which two don't have it?
>> So, Eugenia and Wilcox, sorry, Eugenia

684
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:37,680
and and sorry, Irish and Brewers.
Can't read the lines here. hires and

685
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:43,559
producers have restrictions under the
shipping act. Uh the other two are

686
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:43,559
unrestricted.

687
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:49,839
» Okay. So, so that they have so they can
review

688
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:54,640
» just to make sure you know it's it's
still at the restriction level that they

689
01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:59,440
wish and then
>> Morris, is there not a horsepower

690
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:03,599
restriction on on Will Cox?
>> Yes, there is.

691
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:06,599
» That's what I thought. put under whose
authority?

692
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:17,280
» And there's no personal watercraft like
sea dudes or anything that like that

693
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:22,880
alone.
>> Yeah. I'm just curious as to what who

694
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:26,640
who uh set that we ignore enforcement
for a second because that's tougher, but

695
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:31,440
who set that up that there is a
limitation?

696
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:37,200
uh the uh
lake

697
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:41,119
the Wilcox Lake Association years ago.
>> Okay.

698
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:45,960
» Is it enforcable?
>> Uh they seem to be enforcing it.

699
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:53,680
Who
>> who [laughter] who actually enforces it?

700
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:58,520
Like just the the local residents?
>> The residents that live there full time.

701
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:08,960
But it but it's not official if it's not
included in the AV.

702
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:12,720
» No.
>> So So is it a step that they should

703
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,160
take?
>> Is it which

704
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:23,520
» is it a step that will cox should take
to ensure that it's um documented and

705
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:29,680
registered with V?
>> It probably wouldn't hurt, but

706
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:35,119
There's nobody going against
against what they're saying. So,

707
01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:39,240
» yeah. Is it signed, Morris?
>> No,

708
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,240
» it's not.

709
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:49,440
» Cuz then if you if you get it um
recorded by V, then then you can also

710
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:52,440
then get it, you know, get the proper
signage.

711
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:58,680
» So, that would be part of the signage.
um kind of strategy.

712
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:06,079
» Okay. So, so
>> Oh, go ahead.

713
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:10,400
» Sorry. I think that comes under
reviewing

714
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:18,799
uh or you know without having to be
specific reviewing or instituting

715
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:23,520
um reviewing or considering voting
restrictions.

716
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:28,000
» Yeah. So, I'll just do reviewing and or
consider Mhm.

717
01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:34,000
» restrictions.
So really, so Eugenia is the only one

718
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:39,359
that doesn't have a restriction then.
>> So Wilox has one as per residential

719
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,359
might.
>> Yeah.

720
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:55,039
» Okay. Okay. So, so I'm going to keep it
um just broad to say review and or

721
01:05:52,880 --> 01:06:00,000
consider and I'll keep it all four legs
and then

722
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:03,280
um
but but I think that that might be a

723
01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:08,559
good action item for Will Cox if you
guys want to

724
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:12,960
or or should I ask or should I add the
detail because it's it's good

725
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:16,720
information that we know. My concern is
that because this becomes a public

726
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:21,839
document, uh the way it's written now,
it sounds like

727
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:27,039
Bruce Lake and and um Irish Lake should
go and make an application to restrict

728
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:29,680
what vessels are on there. So, somebody
could take this and say, "Look, it's not

729
01:06:28,319 --> 01:06:32,559
you guys supposed to apply for it." I
know in the previous paragraph it talks

730
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:36,160
about it, but it doesn't say where that
restriction is. Yeah,

731
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:40,400
» that's that's my concern is that I think
we want to you might you know for the

732
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:45,280
you know we might want to say for the
two lakes um

733
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:49,520
that currently have restrictions to
review the appropriateness and the other

734
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:55,520
two to
>> Yeah. Okay. So I'll do that. Okay. So

735
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:58,920
we'll review for Irish and Brewers
uh for appropriateness

736
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:08,000
and then we'll uh and consider
for Willox and Eugenia

737
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:12,720
to apply
because u while Willox is is doing it by

738
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:18,119
residential might they haven't applied
to the V and that might be a good next

739
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,119
step.

740
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:24,200
Okay, thank you.

741
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:32,880
All right. Um so then we have just a
signage example for infographics. Okay.

742
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,359
Is there anything else for the
responsible voting?

743
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:42,720
Nope. Okay. 5.4 planning and
infrastructure.

744
01:07:41,046 --> 01:07:46,720
[snorts] Uh so these are farmland
measures.

745
01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:52,160
You know there's already programs
um with different agencies

746
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:57,400
and then opportunity just to reinforce
communications of the of the various

747
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,400
agricultural programs.

748
01:07:58,799 --> 01:08:03,640
Uh action 10, the responsible
development.

749
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:20,319
I was quite surprised when I looked at
that map of Irish Lake. There's 60 lots

750
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:25,759
surrounding that. I had no idea that was
that uh

751
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:28,080
» that highly populated.
Yeah, there's like a little community on

752
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:32,000
the north end.
>> Sure is. Yeah.

753
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:38,000
» Yeah.
>> Can I just ask a question here? Is the

754
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:42,920
lake carrying capacity study different
than the lake characterization study?

755
01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:52,400
» I believe it is because characterization
because capac so

756
01:08:51,132 --> 01:08:57,839
[clears throat] the carrying capacity
will tell you how many

757
01:08:55,759 --> 01:09:04,960
um
dwellings and like you know like how

758
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:12,319
many dwellings and how um the density of
the planning and the density

759
01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:18,239
um you know of homes that a lake can um
sustain and characterization is more

760
01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:22,880
about all of the I think it's it doesn't
necess while there's probably overlap

761
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:28,159
because you do still need to understand
uh the quality of the like um but I

762
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:34,560
don't think you will necessarily get to
the same it doesn't necessarily

763
01:09:31,679 --> 01:09:38,719
» the same answer.
>> Okay.

764
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:44,843
» There's probably overlap though.
>> Yeah. I was I was just curious just to

765
01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:46,880
to distinguish the two. Yeah. Okay.
[clears throat]

766
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:51,080
» Yeah. Yeah, because the carrying
capacities from a planning perspective

767
01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:58,239
» probably has something to do with the
type of fish and wildlife and the type

768
01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:02,080
of water supply whether it's rivers or
springfed and uh

769
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:08,760
» you know whether it has an outlet or not
like you know Brewers [snorts] has

770
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,760
roosters has no outlet.

771
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:19,679
Oh, and and maybe just for the um you
know, the caring capacity, you know, I

772
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:23,920
would say,
you know, Lake Eugenia is is a priority.

773
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:27,920
Um you know, but then I think I would
just add another point here. Um you

774
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:30,920
know, that the other lakes could be
considered.

775
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:47,840
Yeah, because if there was more um
planning

776
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,840
uh pressures
um

777
01:10:52,800 --> 01:11:00,320
» yeah subdivision
>> I mean it's not there's nothing planned

778
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:06,880
but who knows for the future.
>> Yeah, exactly.

779
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:11,520
Okay. So, so for 10A I'll also add um
you know prioritize Lake Eugenia and

780
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:15,960
then in the future you know potential
consideration.

781
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,960
» Mhm.

782
01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:26,920
» So potential consideration for other
legs for other three legs.

783
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,920
» Yeah, that wouldn't hurt.

784
01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:42,600
Uh moving on. Action 11, public access
management.

785
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:58,280
Okay. So um so for this actually so page
49. So 11 a

786
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:13,400
you know, because Lake Eugenia, you
know, does have the the large public

787
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:13,400
beach. Um

788
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:22,640
but then I think you know I think
there's the other um element of ensuring

789
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:27,280
that there's um
public access

790
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:32,320
considerations and strategies for all
for all the other sites.

791
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:38,080
Um
staff currently is reviewing the public

792
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:43,840
access site on the north end of Eugenia
because we don't while we purchase that

793
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:48,480
a sliver of land so there is access um
we don't have a strategy of sort of

794
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:54,159
what's going to be there so you know so
that's coming back and um

795
01:12:52,239 --> 01:13:00,719
and for the other access points I think
there probably should be a clear

796
01:12:55,679 --> 01:13:00,719
understanding of how we'd want to manage

797
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,239
What do you guys think?

798
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:16,320
But just um
just to sort of just a really really

799
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:21,440
minor change, consider actions to reduce
the amount of time that Lake Eugenia is

800
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:24,840
unsafe for swimming as opposed to as
posted as.

801
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:33,360
All right. I think maybe that's a little
bit more

802
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:35,440
Oh, right. Okay. Is is unsafe for
swimming. Yep.

803
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:39,440
» Yeah. I think just make it a little bit
more strongly worthy.

804
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:46,000
» Yeah.
Is unsafe. Yep.

805
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:52,040
So, would it make sense to add the other
>> and the other legs? Yeah.

806
01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:52,040
» The other legs just so it's complete.

807
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:26,520
Okay.
And then 11 C. Um so I will leave that

808
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:26,520
as enhance the vote launch. Um

809
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:40,560
u because um the Eugenia District
Association um so so they are um moving

810
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:46,400
forward to you know reaching out to
staff and then probably to council to uh

811
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:50,800
to continue to enhance
um the boat launch.

812
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:56,960
Um
so I'll just add a sentence there.

813
01:14:53,360 --> 01:15:02,760
with all those question marks.
And I'll just make sure with the with

814
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:02,760
the with the group that it makes sense.

815
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:21,040
Okay. Anything else?
Okay. Great.

816
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:24,840
Uh 5.5. So outreach. So this is
communications and education.

817
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,520
So on page 50 and 51.

818
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:38,080
So did add 12F coordinate and advocate
to targeted government bodies. So

819
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:44,520
municipal, provincial, federal and other
agencies OPG to promote and forward lake

820
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,520
management issues.

821
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:08,159
Okay. Nothing there.
>> That's all good.

822
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:13,040
» All right. Yay. We're almost through
this.

823
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:21,600
We're on um item six of the
communication plan.

824
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:28,320
So, so the um the purpose of this is um
to help provide

825
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:33,920
topics and key messages
um around

826
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:39,840
stewardship actions that could be
relayed in a social media type

827
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:45,760
communication plan. Uh because staff is
very um willing to you know sort of take

828
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:52,159
key topics and key messages and help to
turn them into um

829
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:57,520
you know social media posts.
Um you know to help reinforce

830
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:02,320
um you know the communications of good
stewardship and you know in doing it and

831
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:06,640
they're happy to do that sort of you
know throughout the year. um they can

832
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:11,520
add it into their communication plan,
their their overarching kind of

833
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:17,199
communication plan. Um right. And so it
so so this is all about

834
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:23,000
um
you know helping to provide topics

835
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:36,320
messages to support a so social media
stewardship educa uh communication plan.

836
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:42,800
I think what I'll do is I'll I'll just I
had I'll review kind of the you know

837
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:48,080
that introduction.
I'm not sure if I feel like it could

838
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:53,760
maybe be
tweaked a little. I was really tired

839
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:57,440
when I wrote it.
>> Okay.

840
01:17:54,239 --> 01:18:00,719
» Oh, so I'm not sure how so I may I may
just if um if if somebody has tweaks,

841
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:05,600
let me know. [clears throat] But what
I'll do though is I'll just review it

842
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:10,080
like with fresh eyes. Um, and just make
sure it just makes sense.

843
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:16,000
I think you should just sort of recap
what you just told us and that you you

844
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:22,560
wanted to set this up as a communication
schedule or calendar that

845
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:29,120
um
the the basically your your content

846
01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:34,280
creator will refer back to as they go
through the year.

847
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:34,280
» Yes. Yes.

848
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:41,840
So I I will review that with that key
purpose in mind. Um a little tired when

849
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,840
I wrote that.
>> Okay.

850
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:54,960
» Um so is there is there anything that's
kind of missing? I you know I just kind

851
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:59,400
of kept it to some of the
uh broader topics.

852
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:07,480
anything kind of really

853
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:16,239
shouldn't be there or something that's
really missing.

854
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:21,920
So we talk about lawns, fertilizers,
shoreline restoration,

855
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:26,440
runoff, rainwater runoff, septic
reinspections,

856
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:26,440
mulching,

857
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:34,320
invasive species, permeable surfaces,
green, blue, blue green algae, safe

858
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:39,440
boating,
lawns and composting and salt

859
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:43,280
alternatives, preserving, preventing
erosion and disposing paths.

860
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:58,000
So then if we continue on past those key
topics and then as you kind of as you

861
01:19:54,719 --> 01:20:01,760
flip through the next few pages.
Um so again, you know, they're kind of

862
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:08,760
like these kind of key messages because
it can be used for

863
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:08,760
um social media content creation.

864
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:18,890
Good reminder for me to go buy some
grass seed for my lawn.

865
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:23,520
» Excellent.
[laughter]

866
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:30,080
Fantastic. Look at that. We've already
impacted one uh one lake member

867
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:33,600
» and I'm getting my septic system
inspected tomorrow.

868
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:37,679
» Oh, good for you.
>> Great. [laughter]

869
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:42,480
» Do you know where your septic tank is?
>> Yes. Yes, I I went up and I uncovered

870
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:45,840
it. So, they're going to have easy
access.

871
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:50,400
» It's good. I heard that somebody got a
letter and they they responded, "Can

872
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:54,719
somebody help me find my septic tank?"
So, there's one good reason for a septic

873
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:58,560
inspection.
>> It's never been pumped.

874
01:20:56,159 --> 01:21:01,760
» I didn't say I found it on the first uh
first shovel going into the ground.

875
01:21:00,719 --> 01:21:06,320
» Yeah.
>> Eventually, I hit it.

876
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:11,840
» Yeah. It's it's a good exercise.
Everybody finds it. Yeah. Yeah. Really

877
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:18,000
good exercise.
Yeah. And for a septic reinspection. Um

878
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:21,760
Yeah. So there's some key messages
around the Grey Highland, you know,

879
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:28,840
reinspection pilot program for Lake
Eugenia. And then just and then just

880
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,840
general subject management tips.

881
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:37,800
» So that one's a little longer because
there's kind of two aspects to it.

882
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:53,840
I'll let you guys just kind of peruse
those few pages

883
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:58,159
and let please let me know if there was
anything that kind of jumps out.

884
01:21:56,719 --> 01:22:02,639
» Here Dubick, I did have a quick
question. I apologize. I'm trying to

885
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:08,960
keep up with the the amendments as uh
the task force is uh making their way

886
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:13,199
through the report. I just wanted to I
wondered if you could repeat the

887
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:18,080
amendment um
that was covered off um when the task

888
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:22,239
force began reviewing the communication
plan.

889
01:22:19,679 --> 01:22:28,960
» Yes. So, yeah. So, so I'm gonna I'm
going to review that with fresh eyes. Um

890
01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:37,440
but I do want to ensure that um the that
the the key intent is captured uh which

891
01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:44,320
is um you know um
setting up a communication calendar

892
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:47,719
uh for um
for stewardship

893
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:56,639
for lake management stewardship um in
order to you know in order to create um

894
01:22:54,639 --> 01:23:01,360
social media content throughout the
year. So, something to that effect, but

895
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:04,607
I'll I'll word it better. And I just
want to make sure it's in there and I

896
01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:10,320
have to review what's in in those
[clears throat] kind of three sort of

897
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:16,600
the messaging right um up above.
>> Thank you.

898
01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:16,600
» So, it'll just get massaged, but

899
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:33,360
Um so so any any comments on this
section?

900
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:38,320
» Um
um I [clears throat] wonder um I think

901
01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:44,639
there's a um maybe a lot of people don't
know that there's

902
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:51,840
uh new risers that they can put on your
septic tank now for easy access. They're

903
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:56,400
little green covers and uh they just
have uh have screws in them and you pop

904
01:23:54,639 --> 01:24:03,520
the lid off and there's no digging or
shoveling or anything like that. Um

905
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:09,520
just uh just to make it easier so you
don't have to destroy your lawn every

906
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:15,280
time your your uh your tank is pumped. I
don't know how we could um

907
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:19,600
» so so I can I can find so I can add what
what are they called? Just risers.

908
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:24,480
» Just risers. Yeah. Septic tank risers.
And uh they're

909
01:24:22,719 --> 01:24:27,520
they're they're able to be able to be
installed right at ground level. And

910
01:24:27,138 --> 01:24:32,320
[clears throat]
>> like four screws and off the thing

911
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:37,600
comes. And anything anything new now has
to have a uh a little filter in it. And

912
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:41,679
it's supposed to be cleaned out. Well,
some say every six months, some say

913
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:45,600
every year. I don't know. So, it's for
easy access. You just pop them off and

914
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:49,120
the filter comes out when you spray it
off and pop it back in.

915
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:53,560
» Yeah. In the middle of page 55 it says
clean the fil your effluent filter.

916
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:58,719
» Yeah.
>> A lot of a lot of uh well anything

917
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:03,040
that's probably 10 years and older
doesn't have one of the

918
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:07,760
» I'm going to pump my tank and I'm going
to put the risers in because mine's 30

919
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:11,440
years old and it's just got cement lids
and

920
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:17,040
I can [clears throat] put the risers on.
Okay. Actually, that's what we have to

921
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:24,320
cement. Okay. Um, so good. Okay. So, um,
except tank riser. So, so I will add

922
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:28,560
that point. I'll find find, um,
a proper source for it and add it.

923
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,320
» Yeah. It just makes things so much
easier,

924
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:36,719
» right?
>> And then your your septic can't can't

925
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:41,880
septic tank can't be lost.
>> Yeah. Some Yeah. Anyways,

926
01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:48,280
» okay. I will I will find wording around
that. Thank you.

927
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:58,159
Um, any any other comments for this
section?

928
01:25:56,639 --> 01:26:02,639
» I think you've done a wonderful job,
Natty. I I don't I couldn't I wouldn't

929
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:09,719
know where to begin how to put something
like this together. And fantastic.

930
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,719
Really fantastic.

931
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:16,080
Well,
>> what happened?

932
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:18,239
Oh, sorry. You guys disappeared on me
for a second. Okay,

933
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:22,000
» you're still there.
>> Yeah, must have been I must have moved

934
01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:27,840
my mouse.
>> This is a tremendous amount of work,

935
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:31,840
Nadia. Really? And I know there's a lot
of people here who contributed and

936
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:35,920
others that aren't, but you were the
captain anyway.

937
01:26:33,679 --> 01:26:40,480
» Yeah. No, everybody contributed. So,
it's it's great, right? like we we've

938
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:48,080
had some really great conversations over
the past year. Um and uh yeah, it's

939
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:54,239
getting things down on paper is
important. And so I think this is um so

940
01:26:51,040 --> 01:27:01,040
this is this is and it I I think what's
so important about this um is um you

941
01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:04,639
know it captures a framework for for you
know a good like management plan. you

942
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:08,560
know, we already have, you know,
recommendations. Some things are

943
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:15,679
underway. Some things need to continue
to be vetted and discussed to move

944
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:21,280
forward. Um, but, you know, if we can
find a home for this to continue to

945
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:25,600
ensure that things do move along, you
know, one home is, you know, with

946
01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:32,080
council for some of these items. uh the
other homes are, you know, um you know,

947
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:39,120
if if there's um a community body that
could could come together. I think that

948
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:44,639
that could be um could be interesting.
Um you know, maybe cross cross lakes.

949
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:49,840
Don't know. I don't know if there is
interest, you know, u to do that, but

950
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:56,239
that would be, you know, I think
shopping this around with all the four

951
01:27:54,080 --> 01:28:00,800
lake associations and just having that
conversation to see, you know, are they

952
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:06,880
good on their own or, you know, would
they want to if they if they see any

953
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:08,800
benefit to collaborating
in any way?

954
01:28:08,531 --> 01:28:12,800
» [clears throat]
>> um

955
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:16,560
that that that could be of interest and
there there could be potential

956
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:23,560
especially when it comes to things like
programming and education programming

957
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,560
and potential uh grant funding.

958
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:35,440
» Okay. And oh, and then the last thing is
the one thing I didn't do is um just

959
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:38,800
creating the very last appendex and
acronyms list because we do have

960
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:43,280
acronyms throughout and sometimes it's
just easier just to have a little table

961
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:48,000
with all the acronyms together in one
list.

962
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:53,080
And I will do just one last review of
references uh just to make sure we have

963
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,080
everything captured.

964
01:28:57,199 --> 01:28:59,840
All right.

965
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:07,480
That's it.
Almost. That's it. Um

966
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,520
so coordinator Thompson.

967
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:26,800
So um next steps uh because so now that
we do have um a report we so I so my

968
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:34,239
next step is to take the list of
amendments that we discussed to update

969
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:38,000
the report and then that updated report
will then go to council. Is that

970
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:42,719
correct?
Uh yes, councelor Dubick through you.

971
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:48,560
That uh that would I be the ideal
process. Um so um my suggestion and

972
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:53,520
that's why I was trying to keep track of
the amendments as as the task force was

973
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:58,560
rolling through the document tonight. I
I have um and perhaps we could just go

974
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:02,400
through and and do a double check that
I've captured all of them. I could

975
01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:11,040
certainly read the draft motion that
I've um prepared, but um the task force

976
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:16,560
would be moving a motion to approve the
lake management task force report as

977
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:22,239
amended. So recognizing uh the report
that was provided on tonight's agenda

978
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:28,560
was the final draft. the a uh the final
report would be um that final draft with

979
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:34,639
the amendments made tonight incorporated
into it. Um I've also included um

980
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:40,239
amendments as necessary to finalize the
document report formatting. Um so

981
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:47,679
ideally the lake management task force
would uh be in a position to um approve

982
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:52,719
the final report at tonight's meeting
um and make a recommendation that that

983
01:30:49,679 --> 01:30:58,480
final report be forwarded to council for
consideration. Um the task force may

984
01:30:55,679 --> 01:31:04,000
also want to consider how the report is
presented to council if if it's simply

985
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:09,280
going to be um added to an upcoming
council agenda if that's the preference

986
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:15,679
or if there's a preference for um
members of the task force to attend um

987
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:21,520
an upcoming council meeting and present
um the task force report. um that could

988
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:25,920
be done as a presentation and there's
simply an an an application process that

989
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:30,400
we could go through to um set up the
task force with a slot uh for a

990
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:33,440
presentation on an upcoming um council
agenda.

991
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:38,639
» You think we could do that in 10
minutes, Nadia?

992
01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:42,800
» And that was my other comment to Chair
Dubick uh in advance of tonight's

993
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:47,920
meeting. Um,
if the task force wanted to request

994
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:53,600
additional time, um, that's totally
fine. Um, that could just be, um,

995
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:57,760
included in tonight's motion, uh, in
relation to whether or not there is a

996
01:31:55,360 --> 01:32:02,960
presentation, who, uh, from the task
force would wish to do that presentation

997
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:08,400
and how long the the presentation um
would be. Uh the maximum ideally would

998
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:12,639
be 30 minutes because that's within the
procedure bylaw that the maximum for

999
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:17,600
each meeting. Um but as you know
typically the um presentations and

1000
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:22,320
delegations to council are a 10-minute
time slot.

1001
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:27,679
» Okay. Um so so I'm just going to open up
the floor to see um if the task force

1002
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:30,880
would like to do a presentation to
council.

1003
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:35,199
Thoughts on that?
>> I think that would be an excellent idea.

1004
01:32:33,679 --> 01:32:38,480
I think we could I think we could
squeeze it in 30 minutes. I think we

1005
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:44,400
could.
>> Absolutely. I think it's totally doable,

1006
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:50,320
» you know. Think so.
What's everybody else think?

1007
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:54,719
» Can I ask when the council meeting would
where would probably fall in just to see

1008
01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:59,760
who's available?
>> Yeah, first and third Wednesdays at 10

1009
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:04,159
o'clock.
So, so Danielle, which one could we slot

1010
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:09,120
into? [clears throat]
>> Uh, that is a really good question. Uh,

1011
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:15,840
if you just bear with me one moment, I
can certainly have a quick peek at.

1012
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:22,560
I know uh I'm not I don't want to speak
too soon. I'll take a quick look at what

1013
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:25,199
um is scheduled so far.
We've

1014
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:31,520
» only got we got three or four meetings
left.

1015
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:37,679
So, um through the chair, uh there's a
10 one 10-minute time slot available at

1016
01:33:34,719 --> 01:33:45,760
the um
September 16th council meeting.

1017
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:50,199
I'll have a look at
the October meeting

1018
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:59,840
and it does appear that there are no
delegations scheduled for the October

1019
01:33:57,199 --> 01:34:08,199
7th council meeting. So that would be
open at this at this time. Yeah, because

1020
01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:08,199
I I believe we could do a

1021
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:15,920
you know so so I'll just I'll just u
state my opinion. I I think it's

1022
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:20,159
worthwhile to do a presentation because
I think this task force has done a lot

1023
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:27,840
of work and I think it's it's worthwhile
to um to showcase that work. Um, you

1024
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:32,719
know, I I I do believe that um, you
know, there could be like a 10-minute

1025
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:36,320
presentation with then questions to
follow. Um,

1026
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:40,400
» yeah, they always run into a half an
hour [laughter]

1027
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:44,080
everyone.
>> Yeah. because I think there's still, you

1028
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:48,719
know, I think it can be condensed in in
some very kind of key

1029
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:52,719
» um, you know, where we want council to
focus in on and where we want council to

1030
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:56,159
focus in on are there, you know, as a
lead, you know, here here's probably,

1031
01:34:54,480 --> 01:35:00,639
you know, here are the recommendations
that we would like for council to move

1032
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:07,520
forward because we do have an ask in
here for council for this council to

1033
01:35:03,679 --> 01:35:11,760
move forward a a staff report
on on a on a you know number of

1034
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:17,280
recommend recommendations and I think
that is something that we would want to

1035
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:22,719
push council you know ask council to do
um and that is easily done within a

1036
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:25,840
within a presentation
format.

1037
01:35:24,239 --> 01:35:32,840
So, I'm gonna leave it there and just
open it up to see um if folks what what

1038
01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:32,840
folks are thinking.

1039
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:44,239
The advantage of a uh presentation at
council tends to get covered in the

1040
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:47,840
local paper. I think otherwise there's
just a report that's provided and

1041
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:51,280
submitted for consideration and kind of
like

1042
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:56,880
next
nobody reads it. Unfortunately, I'm tied

1043
01:35:54,080 --> 01:36:01,760
up on that day
on the 7th, but I could do if it's two

1044
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:05,199
weeks later and I don't know if that's
still council still meeting at that

1045
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,360
point or you you done.
>> The last one is October 7th,

1046
01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:09,520
unfortunately.
>> Yeah.

1047
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:14,639
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. I'm I'm not available October 7th.

1048
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:19,360
It was September 16th.
Um but I'm certainly available to help

1049
01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:25,560
prepare it.
Anybody

1050
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,560
else available?

1051
01:36:25,679 --> 01:36:30,719
» I'm sorry. The dates are the 16th of
September and October the 7th.

1052
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:39,719
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. And it's during the day.

1053
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:39,719
» 16th is out for me. Um 7th,

1054
01:36:44,021 --> 01:36:48,040
[cough and clears throat]
excuse me.

1055
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:55,080
Seventh is a possibility. Three,

1056
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:11,199
but I mean I think it should be done is
my opinion on that matter. We'd

1057
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:16,080
certainly like to have as many members
there as possible just to have them

1058
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:18,320
recognize the work that they've done and
>> but [clears throat] if you can't I guess

1059
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:22,880
that's
>> it's it's tricky unfortunately.

1060
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:28,119
» I can try I can try and move my
appointment on the 7th. So it might be

1061
01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:28,119
movable.

1062
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:37,400
» Okay. Thank you Richard Morris. Uh
>> weddings stays are out for me. Okay.

1063
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:47,080
So, so the best potential
date is October 7th. So, so Danielle,

1064
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,080
could we

1065
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:54,480
» could we get slotted there or like how
would we go about doing that?

1066
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:57,520
» Uh, thank you through you, Chair Dubick.
Sorry, it was the October 7th council

1067
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,199
meeting,
>> correct?

1068
01:37:58,159 --> 01:38:08,159
» Was the preference?
Um, so I think I think uh the best

1069
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:13,440
process would be to um kind of do this
in two separate parts. We'll the Lake

1070
01:38:11,199 --> 01:38:20,239
Force Lake management task force could
move um a motion that um approves the

1071
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:25,840
amended
report and uh request that the final

1072
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:32,080
report as amended be forwarded to
council. And then uh a sec a subsequent

1073
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:36,719
motion could be made that the task force
agrees for a request to be made to

1074
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:41,880
present the report at the October 7th
council meeting.

1075
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,880
um

1076
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:53,520
and whether or not the task force wants
to appoint specific members to present

1077
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:59,440
the the report um or leave it as um that
the uh members of the task force will

1078
01:38:56,719 --> 01:39:03,040
will attend to present the report.
>> Let's leave it general so that um

1079
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:07,520
because it's going to be a best efforts
and you know calendars may move around

1080
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:13,840
for folks. So let's if we can leave it
general I think best.

1081
01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:16,800
» Thank you. And and one more clarity that
would be required in that subsequent

1082
01:39:15,328 --> 01:39:21,840
[clears throat] motion would be the time
frame um that the group would prefer.

1083
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:28,159
Would it be a 10-minut 20 minute 30
minute uh presentation keeping in mind

1084
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:36,000
that it's the speaking time that is
limited. questions from council are

1085
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:40,800
after and um not included in that uh
restricted time frame.

1086
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:46,800
» Yeah.
>> So so I think so so I'm going to take a

1087
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:51,480
stab here. Um my my initial reaction is
I think 20 minutes would be adequate.

1088
01:39:53,679 --> 01:39:59,280
Okay.
>> I don't know what what do folks feel.

1089
01:39:58,559 --> 01:40:03,719
» [clears throat]
>> I think you can do it, Chair Dubic.

1090
01:40:03,799 --> 01:40:10,000
[laughter]
And I I don't know if it's time to make

1091
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:16,159
a motion. I would make a motion that uh
the Lake Management Task Force uh

1092
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:19,639
approve the amended report and uh pass
it on to council.

1093
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,320
» Seconded.

1094
01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:32,760
And then cam um coordinator Thompson for
um for like a 20 minute presentation

1095
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,760
um

1096
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:40,239
we could do a presentation like in the
background kind of thing like off the

1097
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:45,119
side because because we kind of take the
report and and kind of take key elements

1098
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:49,440
of it and put it in a in a presentation
deck.

1099
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:53,440
» Um thank you through you. Uh I would
suggest yeah that that's always a handy

1100
01:40:51,840 --> 01:41:00,000
thing when presentations are made to
council to have kind of a slide deck. So

1101
01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:03,360
um we could include in the motion
um

1102
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:06,880
recognition that the slide deck will be
prepared and uh to accompany that

1103
01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:09,880
presentation.
>> Yeah.

1104
01:41:10,159 --> 01:41:13,760
» And I just want to make sure that like
it's not like we don't have to do

1105
01:41:12,719 --> 01:41:16,639
another [laughter]
review like a formal review of it,

1106
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,000
right? It's just it's going to be done
on the side. Thank you.

1107
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:40,360
So folks, does that seem adequate for
like 20 minutes?

1108
01:41:41,679 --> 01:41:45,920
» I think so. Especially if there's
follow-up questions.

1109
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:50,960
» So questions
>> 20 minutes is a lot as having having

1110
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:56,400
prepared various presentations in my
life. 20 minutes is a lot of content.

1111
01:41:54,639 --> 01:42:00,239
» Yeah. But, you know, sitting at council,
I I've we've also seen like, you know,

1112
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:04,000
smaller presentations like the
presentate presenters going over 10

1113
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:08,320
minutes quite easily and so I don't want
to get just cut off.

1114
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:11,960
» Right. If we don't use it all, great.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1115
01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:22,199
I I agree. I think, you know, 10 minutes
is a lot of speaking time.

1116
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,080
Okay.

1117
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:46,880
Um, now in terms of the presentation, is
anybody here online? Um, so so I'm happy

1118
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:50,159
to continue to be involved uh with the
development of the presentation. Is

1119
01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:53,119
anybody else interested in being
involved?

1120
01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:59,000
Ken, Richard,
>> I can help you. Yeah, certainly.

1121
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:07,440
» So, um, so Ken and Richard, if you guys
want to be maybe like the main folks and

1122
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:12,320
then like we'll share it with everybody,
but if, um, you know, if we can kind of

1123
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:15,040
act as a smaller team just to ensure we
kind of pull something together and then

1124
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:19,960
we can share it with everybody else,
make sure it's uh, it flows well and all

1125
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,960
that.

1126
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,360
Okay.

1127
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:39,280
Okay.
So, I think we have a a motion on the

1128
01:43:36,719 --> 01:43:44,400
floor before we even get to just to
finish off the the accepting of the

1129
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:51,360
report or the submitting of the report.
>> Yeah. So, Coordinator Thompson,

1130
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:56,960
» uh, thank you. Um, certainly I can I've
I've I've created a bit of a draft um

1131
01:43:54,639 --> 01:44:02,719
resolution for the task force to
consider. Um,

1132
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:10,440
so the resolution would state that the
task force receives the report final

1133
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:10,440
draft, task force report final draft.

1134
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:17,280
And uh and this is where that
recommendation that resolution will

1135
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:22,560
include the amendments and so that the
lake management task force approves the

1136
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:27,440
lake management task force report as
amended. So, by adding a brief

1137
01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:33,440
characterization for each lake within
the executive summary,

1138
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:38,400
by removing the words known cause after
zebra muscles under lake management

1139
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:42,960
objective one and inserting a
potentially contributing factor in its

1140
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:49,040
place.
Under action four, storm water runoff

1141
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:57,400
recommendation 4B,
add taller grass heights. And under 4C,

1142
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:57,400
add adopt a highway program.

1143
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:06,320
And feel free to stop me as I'm uh going
through these amendments.

1144
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:13,080
Under action five,
recommendation 5B, addition of signage

1145
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,080
strategy.

1146
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:26,880
Under action 8, recommendation 8C
is amended to incorporate a review of uh

1147
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:31,760
VRR restrictions currently in place and
a review or consideration of

1148
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:34,760
restrictions for lakes currently without
restrictions.

1149
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:43,920
Under action 10, recommendation 10A,
indicate the prioritization of Lake

1150
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:48,000
Eugenia for a lake carrying capacity
study and indication that the other

1151
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:51,320
three lakes could be considered for same
in the future.

1152
01:45:51,360 --> 01:46:01,679
Under action 11,
recommendation 11A,

1153
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:10,440
remove words posted as
and uh recommendation 11B,

1154
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:10,440
change priority to all four lakes

1155
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:18,400
under uh section.
>> So actually that's 11 A. So we will for

1156
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:22,000
all other other lakes as well. So
>> 11 A as well.

1157
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:27,199
» Yeah. Yeah. So Lake Eugenia for Leban is
the priority and then other lakes could

1158
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:34,239
be considered in the future.
>> Uh oh and sorry um chair Dubic I had

1159
01:46:31,679 --> 01:46:37,239
that under action 10
A

1160
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:46,920
10 A. So yes. So for 10 A. Yes. And also
for 11 A and

1161
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:58,239
» for and for 11A as well.
>> Okay. 11 A under 11A.

1162
01:46:55,520 --> 01:47:02,960
» Yeah. Because 11B is just the water
testing results.

1163
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:06,960
Um which is just like Eugenia because
nobody else gets the water testing

1164
01:47:04,639 --> 01:47:11,119
results.
That's for the beach.

1165
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:16,960
» Okay. So for looking at uh the
amendments for um 11A, we're going to

1166
01:47:14,480 --> 01:47:22,639
remove the words posted as
>> and as well for 11A change the priority

1167
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:29,040
to all four lakes.
>> Um yes. So we will because we will add

1168
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:36,719
um um so we'll add another sentence
under um the the description piece about

1169
01:47:33,440 --> 01:47:41,920
um access you know just um
reviewing the access points having a

1170
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:45,400
strategy for each of the access points
for all lakes.

1171
01:47:55,360 --> 01:48:02,480
Because the way 11A reads right now,
it's it's very much focused on the Lake

1172
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:07,840
Eugenia public beach
and we want to ensure that all access

1173
01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:10,000
points are reviewed and have some sort
of a strategy.

1174
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:13,040
But
>> that's all access points in Lake

1175
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:20,239
Eugenia.
So all access points um at all likes.

1176
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:25,280
So for example like you know would we
want

1177
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:32,639
um so at Irish like there is an access
point like would we want to

1178
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:37,679
you know to have a waste disposal site
or

1179
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:40,679
um like like do we want to add anything
else?

1180
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:54,560
Sorry, councelor Dubick. I'm a little
bit confused. Um,

1181
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:59,760
so specific to the access points under
action 11, is it A, B, or C?

1182
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:06,000
» It's A.
>> It's A. And uh strategy for access

1183
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:09,560
points for all four lakes.
>> Yeah. Okay.

1184
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:30,080
Uh because um the point that we made was
um the the new access point on the north

1185
01:49:25,199 --> 01:49:36,800
side of Lake Eugenia, staff does have um
direction from council to review that

1186
01:49:33,679 --> 01:49:40,639
access point and determine
what it needs,

1187
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:46,800
you know. Um and and so I would think
that it's fair then to ensure that we

1188
01:49:43,679 --> 01:49:52,040
look at all access points um and and do
the same.

1189
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,040
» Okay.

1190
01:49:53,040 --> 01:50:02,880
» Thank you. So uh that uh amendment then
would read that under action 11

1191
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:11,440
recommendation 11A amend priority for
access points to include all four lakes.

1192
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:15,360
Uh under section six, communication plan
introduction section to clarify that the

1193
01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:19,600
intent of the plan is to create a social
media content calendar for use by

1194
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:24,400
municipal communications staff to
promote lake management and lake

1195
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:28,480
stewardship within the municipality.
>> Fantastic.

1196
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:33,520
Uh under section six, communications
plan, spring topic E, septic

1197
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:38,600
reinspection,
add use of septic tank risers,

1198
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:49,239
um addition of an overall acronyms list
for the report.

1199
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:57,600
And then the final amendment is uh the
addition of any formatting amendments

1200
01:50:54,000 --> 01:51:02,080
necessary to finalize the document
and that the lake management task force

1201
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:07,600
requests that the final report as
amended be forwarded to council for cons

1202
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:14,880
consideration. And at this time I have
um indicated that that motion was moved

1203
01:51:11,199 --> 01:51:22,040
by member Wickens and seconded by member
Shelson.

1204
01:51:17,679 --> 01:51:22,040
Does that sound okay? Awesome.

1205
01:51:27,199 --> 01:51:36,159
» I'm ready for a glass of wine.
>> So, the final step with this uh motion

1206
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:41,599
would then just be to vote and then the
subsequent motion will consider the

1207
01:51:38,480 --> 01:51:44,599
presentation um at the October 7th
meeting.

1208
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:50,239
» I'll make that motion.

1209
01:51:51,119 --> 01:51:59,280
I think you already did.
>> So, Chair Dubick, we'll just need uh the

1210
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:05,679
the task force to vote on the motion.
>> Oh, okay. All those in favor? Great.

1211
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:11,520
That is carried unanimously. Thank you
very much.

1212
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:16,320
So, so Danielle, when do I need to pass
along the report?

1213
01:52:14,639 --> 01:52:24,239
Um
Drew, you chair Dubic for the October

1214
01:52:21,599 --> 01:52:30,719
7th meeting.
Um the deadline would be Monday,

1215
01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:36,719
September
31st

1216
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:45,119
uh at noon and at that same time um it
would need to include the slide deck. Um

1217
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:53,920
but I would suggest um that the request
for the uh presentation to occur uh it

1218
01:52:51,679 --> 01:52:57,760
should um be submitted as soon as
possible and that can just be done

1219
01:52:55,840 --> 01:53:01,440
through the website.
>> Okay. So um so who does that? So so I

1220
01:53:00,639 --> 01:53:10,040
can just go and do it.
>> Absolutely. Yeah. Great. Okay.

1221
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:10,040
So so I can do that. Okay. Lovely.

1222
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:18,159
All right. Is that it
>> in terms of the task force report? Yes.

1223
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:24,159
There's the subsequent motion for the
presentation and I can uh I can assist

1224
01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:27,599
the task force with that motion if
necessary.

1225
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:31,040
um that the lake management task force
agrees

1226
01:53:29,440 --> 01:53:38,960
that a request for a 20-minute
presentation will be submitted by chair

1227
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:43,840
Dubick for the October 7th council
meeting and that a summary slideshow of

1228
01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:47,040
key report points will be created by
member Schelson, member Le Moine, and

1229
01:53:45,599 --> 01:53:50,719
Chair Dubick to accompany the
presentation to council.

1230
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:55,520
» Perfect.
>> I'll move that.

1231
01:53:52,159 --> 01:54:00,400
» Thank you, Dan. Seconder.
Thank you, Morris.

1232
01:53:58,239 --> 01:54:04,080
Conversation.
So, I see now we'll take that to a vote.

1233
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:09,000
Those in favor
and that is carried unanimously. Thank

1234
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:09,000
you.

1235
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:16,000
» We have one minute left in the meeting.
>> What are we going to do with that?

1236
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:20,159
» Oh my goodness. [laughter]
Okay. Are we done then, Danielle, for

1237
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:27,360
our motions?
Fabulous. Okay, so uh next meeting. So

1238
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:33,199
we have no further meetings scheduled.
Um and then just adjournment.

1239
01:54:30,639 --> 01:54:38,400
So So folks um this is our last meeting.
So I would just like to extend my

1240
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:42,320
gratitude
um you know having the opportunity to to

1241
01:54:40,639 --> 01:54:49,840
work with all of you. I think this has
been a an effective um task force. You

1242
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:55,119
know these task forces are never easy.
Um you know they always feel a little

1243
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:58,480
sometimes awkward um you know given the
fact that you know we we always have

1244
01:54:56,320 --> 01:55:05,280
these sort of these municipal
constraints of how task force do run. Um

1245
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:11,360
but I I I do want to thank everybody for
all their input um sharing your talents

1246
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:17,599
and you know and just always being
flexible to to make things work. Um so

1247
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:23,480
so thank you so much. Um any so opening
the floor for any final comments at our

1248
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,480
final meeting.

1249
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:31,280
Other than you did an excellent job
leading this task force, I have nothing

1250
01:55:29,679 --> 01:55:34,619
to say.
>> Okay. Thank you. [laughter]

1251
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:41,159
» Thank you guys. It's been wonderful
working with you with all of you.

1252
01:55:42,239 --> 01:55:50,239
» Awesome. Okay. So then um we are just
here to adjourn then so that the lake

1253
01:55:47,199 --> 01:55:55,040
management task force adjourn at 7:01.
Sorry, we're over time until the next

1254
01:55:53,199 --> 01:56:00,560
meeting or until the call of the chair.
Okay. Um, so we'll need a mover and a

1255
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:04,480
seconder.
>> I'll move. [snorts]

1256
01:56:01,599 --> 01:56:07,520
» Thank you, Richard. Ken has second and
we'll take that to a vote. Those in

1257
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:11,920
favor?
All right. Yay. Thank you so much.