[0:00] summary. [0:04] » Good morning. Welcome everybody to the [0:06] serve board of commissioners September [0:08] 22 26 meeting. Thank you all for being [0:11] here. Just information I've got to leave [0:13] at 20 till 10 to be in Byron for a [0:16] mandatory meeting. So I will slip out at [0:19] that point. Item one is to discuss [0:22] operations of the customer service [0:24] department and proposed revisions to the [0:26] customer service policy. [0:29] And looks like we've got Rita Bagwell to [0:32] present. So, welcome. [0:40] >> Good morning. [0:41] >> I'm honored to share the operations of [0:43] customer service with you today. I lead [0:46] an outstanding team and I'm excited that [0:49] they will be showcased in the first part [0:51] of my presentation. I will also share [0:54] some proposed changes to the customer [0:56] service policy. In 2020 when COVID [1:00] occurred, we the city had to revamp the [1:02] level of services that we provided our [1:04] customers at the time. that led to [1:07] availability for online payments, online [1:10] contracts, bill payment kiosk, and [1:13] access to account information online. [1:16] All of these options are accessible to [1:18] our customers 247. [1:22] In 2023, our policy was updated with [1:25] these resources becoming part of the [1:27] policy. I found through reviewing the [1:30] policy for the revisions I have proposed [1:32] today, the policy in 23 was a sound [1:36] policy. The revisions today are [1:39] enhancing the services that we provide [1:41] to our customers as well as becoming [1:44] better stewards for the city's [1:46] resources. [1:54] This is our organizational chart. [1:56] Customer service has 22 employees. I [1:59] have a assistant customer service [2:01] manager who has six positions that [2:03] report to him. Mr. Joel Kitchens, the [2:06] billing supervisor has two positions, [2:09] Serena Engles. Contract desk supervisor [2:12] Wanda Moore has three positions that [2:14] report to her. The cashier supervisor [2:18] has five positions that report to her. [2:21] And the key accounts manager is [2:24] responsible for all of the city utility [2:26] key accounts. And then I have the [2:28] administrative coordinator. Each [2:31] supervisor does not just supervise [2:34] three, four, five employees. They also [2:37] are assisting those employees with the [2:39] customers that we have. So I want that [2:42] to be understood as well. I would like [2:44] to take a moment to introduce my staff [2:46] that are here. [2:51] So, Serena Engles is the bill and [2:53] supervisor. Wanda Moore, contract desk [2:56] supervisor. TJ Simon is our new key [3:00] accounts utility manager. And Mr. Joel [3:02] Kitchens is the assistant customer [3:04] service manager. [3:08] [clears throat] [3:12] Like I mentioned, customer service has [3:14] 22 employees. The total years of tenure [3:18] in our department is 151 years. The [3:22] longest tenure is Mr. Kitchens with 26 [3:25] years. Our shortest tenure is Andrea [3:28] Slaggo who has been here with us one [3:30] month and she's bilingual. So, she was a [3:32] great addition to our team. The median [3:35] years of experience for our team is an [3:38] average of four years. [3:40] The national average for customer [3:42] service employees is typically with [3:44] between 13 to 15 months. So of my staff, [3:49] 11 have been with us more than four [3:52] years. So half of my staff is above the [3:55] national average of staying in customer [3:57] service at the same place. Five [4:00] employees have been with us two to four [4:02] years. Four employees have been here [4:05] less than one. And of those four, two [4:07] were new additions to customer service. [4:14] » [clears throat] [4:14] >> I wanted to note our 2026 departmental [4:16] goals. The first customer service will [4:20] become a one-stop shop for customer [4:21] inquiries regarding all city of Griffin [4:24] utilities. We will be initially the [4:27] person that they will sign up for solid [4:29] waste services, fiber, um water, we're [4:33] already handling the water um tap fees [4:35] and things like that and they'll pay it [4:37] with us. So we will be the customerf [4:39] facing for the city. Um we will improve [4:43] the online utility contract process to [4:45] provide ease for the customer. That's [4:48] already been completed as of August [4:50] 15th. [4:51] Implement online contracts for solid [4:54] waste services. This will be for special [4:56] handling rolloff request and things such [4:58] as as that. Um those are on paper and [5:04] it's done through the c the solid waste [5:06] department. It will eventually filter [5:08] through the flow will be better and our [5:10] anticipation completion date for that is [5:13] by the end of October. [5:19] I'm visual so I wanted you to see the [5:21] representatives. This is Mr. Kitchens [5:24] and his team. [5:26] Some of their responsibilities include [5:28] answer the telephone, assist with [5:30] general questions, process credit card [5:33] payments, act as a liaison between the [5:36] customer and the utility. They contact [5:38] customers about high water usage. And [5:41] that's a key because we call the [5:43] customer if it meets a certain [5:44] threshold. We call them before they get [5:47] that bill. And often they weren't aware [5:48] of an issue. Assisting reconnection of [5:51] remote meters completes utility [5:53] analysis. analysis requests for both [5:56] electric and water. They handle the [5:58] payment arrangements for the customers [6:00] and they process broken pipe credits. [6:03] They do a lot more but that gets the [6:05] gist of an every day. The billing [6:08] department some of their highlighted [6:11] responsibilities. They assist with [6:13] internal and external customers with [6:15] billing and account inquires relating to [6:17] billing. Processes penalties and [6:20] disconnect notices. handles the [6:22] disconnection of all remote meters on [6:24] the daily cutoff. Sorts and processes [6:27] the lot box and bill payments. Processes [6:30] move in and move out service orders. [6:32] Imports the meter readings for electric [6:34] and water per the billing calendar. [6:37] Participates in the monthly bill [6:38] preparation and that takes a full month [6:41] because they're looking at several [6:43] criterias. [6:45] runs the different bill cycles and they [6:47] generate non-metered monthly services [6:49] such as fiber and the solid waste. [6:53] The contract desk responsibilities [6:56] highlighted for them are they register [6:58] the customers for new service. This is [7:00] commercial, industrial, residential. [7:03] Collects utility deposit payments, [7:05] utility payments, provides information [7:08] and resolves complaints from customers. [7:11] processes moveout requests and utility [7:13] transfers, assist with the collections [7:16] process, and they also process the proof [7:19] of residency that our customers need for [7:22] school [clears throat] [7:24] credit history, address, name changes, [7:26] and additional fees. [7:30] Our cashiers are probably one of the [7:33] most customerf facing employees that we [7:36] have. Um, and Carolyn at the top of that [7:39] picture is the one that you will hear [7:40] say, "Welcome in every time you come [7:42] in." Um, they receive and process [7:45] payments by cash, check, credit cards, [7:47] and money orders. They process the [7:49] return checks, assist in resolving [7:51] customer accounts, provide support to [7:54] the phone room when needed. They process [7:56] the return mail, processes reconnections [7:59] on services that have been dis [8:00] disconnected for non-payment. They [8:03] balance their cash drawer at the end of [8:04] the shift and they serve as a backup for [8:07] the reception desk. So, someone's at [8:10] that desk all the time. [8:12] The next person that is on our staff is [8:15] our key accounts manager. And I wanted [8:17] to give TJ a moment to actually step up [8:20] so you could be introduced to him and he [8:22] could kind of tell you some of the [8:23] things and visions that he has. [8:30] » Um, good morning everyone. Like Miss [8:31] Rita said, my name is TJ Simon. Excited [8:33] to be here with the city of Griffin. Um, [8:37] my role as the key account manager. My [8:39] role is to be a 247 liaison for our [8:44] industrial customers and our key [8:45] accounts. Making sure that they're taken [8:47] care of um not just for their electric [8:51] like in the past, however, for all their [8:53] utilities, water, solid waste, all the [8:55] above. um analyzing trends in their [8:58] consumption, uh making sure their [9:00] building looks correct, um planning and [9:03] implementing any key account or [9:05] departmental activities, and then [9:07] handling the marketing and advertising [9:09] for our utilities, especially with solid [9:12] waste and fiber. [9:14] um some of the upcoming projects and [9:17] events that uh we have going on. We have [9:19] our public power week celebrating the [9:21] importance of public power and a public [9:24] utility uh coming up October 4th through [9:26] the 10th as part of that and a way to [9:29] give back to the community. We are uh [9:31] hosting a warmth for winter drive uh [9:34] coordinating with several different [9:36] places to get those blankets we collect [9:39] hats, coats uh to those in need in our [9:41] community. And then as well on November [9:43] 16th, we have National Storm Water Day, [9:46] uh hoping to promote the Griffin Gives [9:48] Back program and get more and more [9:50] volunteers out to our cleanups. Um this [9:53] past week, we had the Spalding County [9:55] Fair where we were able to have each [9:58] different utility, uh engage with the [10:00] community, um have a fun time with the [10:03] community, and just show the utility [10:07] that each of us represent. [10:13] He is a perfect person for that [10:15] position. He has a servants's heart and [10:17] wants to do things for the community. [10:19] So, he represents Griffin very well. Um, [10:22] the next person is our administrative [10:24] coordinator. Britney is my um right-hand [10:28] go-to. She keeps us on track all of [10:30] customer service. She provides [10:31] administrative support to the director [10:34] and supervisors. She orders our supplies [10:36] and equipment, oversees our budget, and [10:38] manages our checkbook to make sure that [10:40] we're working within our budget, [10:42] maintains miscellaneous deposit logs for [10:45] all of the city departments and assist [10:47] with the preparation of the daily [10:49] deposit. Our receptionist is another [10:52] customer-f facing employee. She This is [10:54] Samantha Bats. She answers the telephone [10:57] and greets customers, [10:59] greets our visitors, not just customers, [11:01] from one Griffin Center. She assists the [11:03] customer signing into the kiosk, [11:05] maintains the daily counts for customer [11:07] service, and directs customers to the [11:09] appropriate personnel. [11:15] We're quite famous. We have several [11:17] people that have um received the [11:19] strongest link in the chain. Um I [11:21] received it January of 2012, the year [11:24] 2015, and March 2022. [11:27] Serena Engles received it January 26, [11:30] September 2018. Wanda Moore received it [11:34] October 2017. Abria Taylor received it [11:38] July 21. Laura Gman received it December [11:42] 2023 and Mosha Henderson received it [11:45] March 2026. The reason that slide was [11:48] important for me to put in there was [11:50] because customer service is not for all. [11:54] And to have that amount of employees [11:56] that are recognized overall city is huge [12:00] because it just shows their growth and [12:03] their dedication to the job. [12:06] The next slide is [clears throat] [12:07] another slide that was important for me [12:08] to showcase about customer service is [12:11] the community involvement. I believe [12:14] that it is important as does my staff [12:16] that we're not just behind our desk [12:19] collecting a payment or telling someone [12:21] no. It is about showing them that we're [12:24] part of them. We're one Griffin. And um [12:27] parting part of the way that we build [12:30] that gap or build the uh go across the [12:32] bridge to meet them halfway is we stay [12:35] in the community. Um, some of these [12:37] pictures is where we've participated in [12:40] Feeding Griffin for the backpack [12:42] launches, United Way, Griffin Gives [12:45] Back, the ice cream stroll, back to the [12:48] school bash, and we um host a box for [12:51] Griffin Fire Rescue toy drive, but a lot [12:54] of the the toys that go in there are [12:56] from my staff. Um, and you can see we [13:00] have 22 people and you see how many [13:02] people are showing up at those things. [13:05] We're united. Um, we've also uh [13:07] volunteered for the Christmas parade, [13:09] June Jam, and like TJ said, the fair [13:12] booth. [13:14] Some of our outreach and trainings. We [13:16] have um it's important to refuel the [13:20] tank in customer service. So, we do a [13:22] lot of trainings, some internal, some [13:24] external. Um, some of the trainings [13:27] we've had is phone etiquette training [13:29] for all customer service training, first [13:32] aid and CPR training. We have had [13:34] customers have a crisis in our customers [13:37] office that we needed to have that [13:38] knowhow. Um office safety training [13:42] griffin spalding leadership institute. [13:45] Um I have really tried to make sure that [13:48] we have employees that are able to [13:49] attend that. Um we collaborate with data [13:52] matics our bill uh payment printer. Uh [13:56] we attended the career fair at Moore [13:58] Elementary. And this is a big thing that [14:00] I'm proud of. The last item is we have [14:03] we collaborate with our other cities and [14:05] it's not that we're just taking from [14:07] them. The city of Cington, Nunan, and [14:10] Rockdale County have all came to us and [14:13] asked us for our help and our guidance [14:15] on their practices of how we could help [14:18] them see how to improve. So that to me [14:21] says a lot about Griffin. [14:24] The next slide is just a a picture of [14:28] our project list. Um, we took the [14:31] electric department's project list and [14:33] adapted it to customer service because [14:34] we wanted to be able to track what we're [14:37] doing. And, um, you can see at the top, [14:39] we're accomplishing two of them by this [14:42] presentation and our policy update [14:44] today. [14:48] And that concludes the presentation of [14:51] just the customer service. Any questions [14:53] about that? [14:55] really proud of my [14:56] >> I would like to commend staff. When you [14:58] look back 20 years ago, it seems like [15:00] every day or every week, we always had [15:02] calls of complaints. We're lucky to get [15:05] one. I mean, I'm not I mean, maybe one [15:07] every six months. So, it's just a [15:09] testimony of the commitment of your team [15:12] and what y'all been able to [15:13] >> Thank you. [15:13] >> provide. [15:14] >> We definitely have a great team and I [15:16] think it's also the resources that we [15:18] allow that we provide our customers now. [15:21] Um, so I think we're in a good place. I [15:23] think we could continue to do better, [15:25] but I think we're doing a great job. Um, [15:28] so the next slides are the proposed [15:31] policy revisions. And like I said, in [15:34] 2023, we we did do a revamp of our [15:37] policy. And as I started looking at the [15:40] changes that we needed to [music] make, [15:43] um, it was not as significant in some [15:46] cases as I thought it would be. So it [15:48] was a very sound policy. the um in [15:51] section two, the purpose of the policy [15:54] um we specified the objective of the [15:56] customer service policy to work in [15:58] conjunction with the city's code of [16:00] ordinances and contracts. So, we adapted [16:03] that wording to make sure that it shows [16:06] that those are in alignment. [16:08] In section three, definitions that were [16:11] added was the connection fee, the credit [16:14] report fee, federal privacy act, and [16:16] solid waste container fee. And that [16:18] stemmed from the questions that our [16:20] customers ask. They ask, "What are those [16:22] fees on their bill?" And I wanted to be [16:23] able to have a definition for them. [16:28] Section four is our hours of operation. [16:33] This indicates the proposed adjudgment [16:35] adjust proposed adjustment to the [16:38] customer service department operating [16:40] hours changing from 8:00 am to 6:00 p.m. [16:44] changing at 2 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. And [16:47] I have resources that I want to provide [16:49] for the board's consideration. [16:54] This slide shows the statistics for June [16:57] of 2026. [16:59] From 8 am, our phone call total was [17:02] 2,97. [17:05] From 5 to 6 of that 2009 was 108 for the [17:10] month. That's an average of five calls [17:13] for that one hour. [17:16] Office visits were 149. The office [17:20] visits from 5 to 6 for the month was 37, [17:24] leaving the average from 5 to 6 was two [17:27] visits. [17:28] The bill payments for the month of June [17:31] was 6,653. [17:34] The total for the month from 5 to 6 was [17:37] 336 with an average of 16 payments. That [17:42] is from the cashiers, the drive-thru, [17:44] and the contract desk. And again, [17:49] I would like to note we still have the [17:51] bill payment kiosk in front of our [17:52] building that those payments could have [17:54] been made [cough and clears throat] [17:56] in the drive-thru and online. [17:59] The June personnel cost to operate from [18:02] 5:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. This is my staff [18:06] and the guard was $4,42125. [18:12] And this does not include overtime [18:14] expenses or the utilities cost. That is [18:18] just the personnel. [18:23] July 26 [18:25] from 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. the calls [18:27] were 3,000 for the total. 5 to 6 were [18:32] 195 calls. The average calls from 5 to 6 [18:35] were nine. [18:37] Office visits were 180. from five to six [18:42] for the month 37 with an average of two [18:45] coming in from five to six. Bill [18:48] payments were 6,159 [18:52] for the month that was from 8 to 6. Of [18:54] that 351 for the month were paid from 5 [18:58] to 6. An average of 16 payments. Again, [19:02] July personnel cost to operate from 5 to [19:04] 6 was $4,59921. [19:12] August 2026, [19:15] 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 pm, we fielded 3,16 [19:20] phone calls. [19:22] 5 to 6 were 69 with an average of three. [19:27] Office visits 1,266 [19:31] for the month of that was 39 averaging [19:34] two coming into the office from 5 to 6. [19:38] Bill payments 5,52. [19:42] The total for the month was 259 with an [19:46] average of 12. [19:48] The a the August personnel cost was [19:50] 4,42125 [19:53] and that's for that one hour. [19:58] The benefits that I see of the adjusted [20:01] operating hours, it'll improve retention [20:04] concerns. It is difficult to have staff [20:07] that is willing to work till 6:30 in the [20:10] evening because if we close at 6:00, I [20:12] have to have time to cash out those [20:14] boxes. It'll improve morale, improve the [20:17] quality of service that we provide our [20:19] customers. It'll remove the rotating [20:22] schedules, increasing operational [20:25] efficiency. And what I mean by that is [20:27] at 8 o'clock I will have three people [20:29] answering phones, not one for an hour [20:32] and then one coming on board after that. [20:35] Um, same thing for signing up services. [20:38] Same thing for the customers coming into [20:41] the office. Improve customer employee [20:44] and employee safety at 6:30 in January. [20:48] It is extremely dark in that garage and [20:51] that's for customers as well. It'll [20:53] reduce our overtime expenses and our [20:56] guard expenses. It'll increase the [20:58] utilization of the online services that [21:00] the city has already implemented for [21:03] payments, service contracts, etc. And [21:05] it'll enhance the stewardship of city [21:08] resources. [21:12] And the way we can maintain this [21:14] convenience and accessibility is we have [21:17] 247 accessibility of two outside bill [21:20] payment kiosk. one on the front of the [21:22] building on Hill Street side and the [21:24] drive-thru. There's one on the third [21:25] lane of the drive-thru. The online [21:28] customer portal which allows customers [21:30] to view their bill, pay their bill, see [21:32] their usage, pay over the phone, our [21:35] online service contract and system [21:38] operations are readily available to [21:40] restore services to the remote meters [21:42] that were disconnected. [21:45] Section five, application for new [21:48] service. This was updated to define the [21:51] city's consistent treatment and [21:53] enforcement of all residential accounts [21:55] as combined utility accounts. [21:58] No opting out of residential services [22:01] unless all services are on maintenance [22:03] disconnect. [22:07] Section 5.2 transfer residential [22:10] service. This was se this was a [22:13] separated section regarding the transfer [22:15] of service for residential services. Um, [22:18] it was not clear in the prior revision [22:22] and we made it more clear with the [22:24] details of what's needed. Section 7.4 [22:29] for the billing period and delinquent [22:31] statements. We increase the time in [22:34] which customers can make payments from [22:36] 6:00 p.m. to 11:59 p.m. on the due date [22:40] to avoid penalties and subjectivity to [22:43] disconnection. So that's given an [22:45] additional almost six hours. [22:51] Section 8, payment options. The chart [22:54] was updated with graphics for easier [22:56] reading. Um it looks really good. TJ [23:00] helped me get that um revised. We [23:03] removed the Dropbox location because [23:05] this service ended on 516 of 24 because [23:08] it was not a practical service that the [23:10] city was providing anymore. [23:12] We added the bill payment kiosk inside [23:15] of customer service. We added the bill [23:17] payment kiosk in front of one Griffin [23:19] Center. And we updated the hours for the [23:22] office time closing at 5. [23:27] Section 8.3, the Dropbox locations. [23:30] Again, this was removed um May 16th of [23:33] 2024 since hence we removed it from the [23:36] policy. [23:39] Section 11, broken pipe policy. We [23:42] updated the broken pipe policy with a [23:44] structure that will be utilized to [23:46] calculate the broken pipe credit more [23:48] fairly when in the event the customer [23:51] has not been at the location for 12 [23:53] months. [23:54] >> Wow. Okay. [24:00] » Section 13, energy assessments. We added [24:04] this into our policy. [24:06] The energy assessments request to assist [24:09] customers un in understanding their [24:11] household energy usage and identifying [24:14] potential opportunities to reduce [24:16] utility cost. [24:21] Section 18.2 [24:23] health of a resident. We propose [24:26] increasing the health of a resident [24:27] benefit from an additional one day which [24:30] it is currently to an additional 5-day [24:33] extension. [24:41] This slide shows a comparison of [24:45] the what we're proposing for the health [24:46] of a resident. All customers, if the [24:49] bill date was August 28th, the due date [24:53] would be September 14th. The last day to [24:57] pay would be September 21st with a [24:59] disconnection of September 22nd. [25:03] Currently under our billing or our [25:05] policy, the bill date should it be [25:08] August 28th, the due date is September [25:11] 14th. [25:12] The last day to pay would be September [25:15] 22nd. It's that one additional day and [25:19] the disconnection date would be [25:20] September 23rd. [25:23] What staff is proposing is that the last [25:26] day to pay would become Monday, [25:28] September 28th since Saturday the 26 the [25:32] 26th of the is on a Saturday and then [25:35] the disconnection date would be [25:36] September 29th. [25:40] This and also I noted additional time is [25:44] also dependent on extreme weather [25:46] conditions for hot and cold weekends and [25:49] holidays. So just like the 26 was on a [25:52] Saturday, there's additional days in [25:54] there that's factored. [26:00] Section 22, customer communications [26:04] changing from the allotted time for a [26:06] representative to resolve a customer's [26:08] issue from 48 hours to 24 hours. If we [26:11] are all on staff at 8:00, there's no [26:14] reason that we can't get an answer but [26:16] within 24 hours. [26:20] » [clears throat] [26:23] » Section 22 complaint procedure. We [26:26] change from the written complaint may be [26:28] filed with the appropriate utility [26:30] director or design to the assistant city [26:33] manager of utilities and the final [26:35] escalation remain the city manager. [26:43] Section 24, the prospective adopt [26:45] adoption date would be Octo October 13 [26:49] of 2026. [26:53] » Any questions? [26:55] >> Thank you. Any questions from board [26:57] members? [26:58] >> Yes. I will start just by saying thank [26:59] you to you and your team because good [27:01] customer service can solve most [27:03] problems. So, thank you for the work you [27:04] do. But I do have several questions [27:07] regarding the the proposed language. So, [27:10] first on page six in the definitions, [27:12] the due date still says statement must [27:16] be paid by 6 pm. [27:19] Does that need to be corrected to 11:59? [27:21] >> Yes. [27:22] >> Okay. And then on page eight, [27:25] >> Commissioner Fer, that was in [27:26] definitions. [27:27] >> Yes, ma'am. [27:29] On page eight, it mentions a return trip [27:34] fee, but there is no such thing in the [27:36] definitions. Does that need to be added? [27:38] We could. [27:39] >> Okay. [27:41] Uh, in the definitions it says [27:43] connection fee, but for the rest of the [27:45] document when it's mentioned, it's [27:47] called a connect fee. If that's [27:49] something that potentially wouldn't hold [27:51] up in court, could we get that one or [27:54] the other? [27:55] >> Okay. [27:57] >> And then I can point out the sections [28:00] where I found that if you'd like, but I [28:02] don't have to. [28:03] >> I can I can. [28:04] >> Okay. And then the other thing I have is [28:09] there are two or there are two instances [28:13] I found of his or her being used whereas [28:16] the rest of the document uses there or [28:18] they. So once again if we could get that [28:21] consistent preferably with the [28:22] genderneutral they or there. And then my [28:25] last thing is a question about the grace [28:28] period just to check. So, the extended [28:31] time um from 6:00 to 11:59 is on the due [28:35] date. Correct. [28:36] >> Right. [28:36] >> But note uh late fee is charged until [28:40] after the 7-day grace period. [28:42] >> The next d the next day after the due [28:44] date. [28:45] >> The next day after the So, what is the [28:47] grace period for? [28:49] >> The grace period keeps them from being [28:51] disconnected for seven days. [28:53] >> Oh, okay. Good. [28:54] >> Yes. penalty occurs the next day after [28:56] the due date, but the grace period is to [28:59] withhold disconnection for seven days. [29:01] >> Okay. Thank you for the clarification. [29:04] >> Thank you, Mr. Per. [29:05] >> Um, Mr. Wright, [29:08] >> have we thought about this staying open [29:09] one day a week till 6? Have you thought [29:12] about that just because of people who [29:14] work wouldn't have to take so much time [29:15] off if they needed to come in? [29:22] I think that could be in consideration. [29:24] Um [29:26] but again the in office traffic is two [29:30] an average of two per day [29:32] >> right [29:32] >> and that that has not changed. Um I went [29:35] back three months and and consistently [29:37] and and often it's the same two [29:40] >> right if it's two if it's two every day [29:43] if you only open one day [29:44] >> right [29:45] >> it would be 10 if you actually got them [29:47] all in. [29:49] just a consideration to see if you could [29:51] see what that would do to your [29:54] situation. [29:55] >> Sure. [30:02] » Any other questions or comments? [30:04] >> Great job. [30:07] >> And again, thank y'all for y'all's [30:08] exceptional service. Um, y'all make a [30:11] difference every day and make our lives [30:12] a whole lot easier than it used to be. [30:14] So, [30:15] >> thank you. And mayor, just a point of [30:17] clarification, [clears throat] these [30:18] policies will be on the agenda for the [30:20] 13th, as well as some of the contracts [30:22] to approve us to form. Um, so if there's [30:24] any comments or concerns that you want [30:26] us to address between now and 13, please [30:27] let us know. [30:29] >> Thank you. [30:31] All right. Uh, last item is to discuss [30:32] proposed 2026 mill rate. City manager [30:34] Jessica Connor will address. [30:43] Okay, it's that time of year again where [30:45] it is time to set our millage rate. And [30:47] unfortunately, this year has been a [30:49] little bit um of a challenge. If you'll [30:51] remember correctly, we had our House [30:53] Bill 581. We've talked about Senate Bill [30:55] 33. There's been a lot of things at the [30:57] state legislature that has come up that [30:59] has created some concern um for [31:01] localities, specifically ours, because [31:03] we did not opt out of House Bill 581, [31:06] but the county did, as did the school [31:08] system. So the tax commissioner has had [31:10] some issues as long as well as the tax [31:12] assessor in calculating the millage [31:14] rates for this year which is why we are [31:16] a little bit behind on that. Um but I [31:18] would like to present to you the millage [31:19] rate discussion for today and then [31:21] adoption on October 13th as well. If you [31:24] look at the historical millage rates um [31:26] starting in 2016 so 10 years ago you [31:29] were taxing at a rate of 7.771. [31:32] Um as of today we are recommending a [31:34] millage rate of 5.609 609 which is the [31:37] roll back rate. Um that's 900s of a roll [31:40] back from last year's 2025. So that [31:43] overall decrease is 2.702 mills or 34% [31:47] of the tax rate. [31:50] The 2025 digest versus the 2026 digest. [31:54] You can see some growth within that [31:55] digest at 945 million last year compared [31:58] to 952 and a half this year. um [32:01] reassessments and other digest changes [32:03] remained about the same at 15 million. [32:05] So that does give us that roll back rate [32:07] of 5.609 when also calculating loss. So [32:11] if you look at property tax revenue, [32:13] what we budgeted this year for FY27 is [32:16] 6,200. Yes, sir. [32:17] >> On on page one, because I'm I heard you [32:20] and I thought I was hearing you right. [32:22] You said 5.069 [32:24] and then on [32:26] >> Okay. On the next page is 5.60. Okay. [32:29] >> 5.609. 69. [32:31] >> Okay. [32:31] >> No, Commissioner Fuller caught that. So, [32:33] I changed it this morning. So, you [32:34] should have the updated 5.609. [32:37] >> On my on my computer, it doesn't say [32:39] that, but that's fine. It says [32:40] >> not updated. [32:41] >> It's not updated on this. That's [32:43] >> I'm sorry. It's in the [32:44] >> So, it's 5.609. [32:45] >> 5.69. [32:47] >> Um, so the roll back rate is 5.609. If [32:50] you look at the current rate, uh, the [32:52] property tax revenue budgeted for fiscal [32:54] year 2027 is 6,281,735. [32:58] You have to remember for the city that [33:00] we actually have three different [33:01] property tax funds. We have our general [33:03] fund and then we have TAD 1 and TAD 2. [33:05] So if you look at that together, there's [33:07] 5,349,735 [33:10] budgeted for general fund, $41,000 for [33:13] TAD 1, which is the downtown district, [33:15] and then 531,000 for TAD 2, which is the [33:19] district over by Kroger, where we still [33:21] have Kroger bonds that we are paying. [33:22] You can see the difference in what was [33:24] budgeted for FY26. we actually did um [33:27] increase the amount that we budgeted. [33:29] And so if you look at keeping the [33:31] current rate, what that 100% collections [33:33] would be for the general fund um is [33:35] right at sort of the what we budgeted if [33:37] you collected 95% which we're somewhere [33:40] in between 90 and 95% each year. Um we [33:43] it's a little less with that uh current [33:45] rate. So if you look at the roll back [33:47] rate, of course, that does sort of [33:49] decrease the amount that we would [33:50] receive. Um when you look at property [33:52] tax revenue budgeted for FY26 it shows [33:55] you there and FY25 that roll back rate [33:58] um for general fund at 100% collections [34:01] will be 5.342 [34:02] at 95% collections it would be 5,75,647. [34:07] So it will be a little less than what is [34:09] budgeted. Um but I still think it is it [34:11] is doable for what we've been able to do [34:13] the last several years. So I just need [34:15] to know from you all um what you would [34:17] like to do because we have to advertise [34:19] and depending on what our choice is [34:21] either the current rate uh an increase [34:24] rate or the roll back rate would depend [34:25] on how many times we have to advertise [34:28] and how many hearings we have to have [34:29] >> and our lost revenue continues to [34:31] outperform what we [34:33] >> Yes. Our lost revenue brings in a little [34:34] over $6 million now. So more than [34:36] property tax. [34:38] >> Roll it back. [34:39] [clears throat] [34:40] >> Roll it back. [34:41] >> Roll back. [34:42] >> Okay. [34:42] >> All right. That makes it easy. Please, [34:44] we'll have one public hearing. [34:49] » I mean, roll back. Jesus. [34:52] >> Oh, okay. Well, then we will have one um we'll advertise it in the next [34:56] couple days and then we'll be able to [34:58] have one public hearing in the adoption [34:59] on the 13th. [34:59] >> Perfect. All right. All right. [35:01] [laughter] [35:02] >> Is there anything else that you need to [35:04] discuss with us this morning? [35:05] >> No, sir. [35:06] >> Do we have anything from any commission? [35:07] >> Oh, yes, we do. I'm so sorry. We have to [35:09] tell you about the land bank and their [35:11] requests. [35:13] Yes. So, uh [35:16] we're going to get a slide up for you [35:17] guys. It should be very very brief. I [35:19] know it never is when I'm up here. Um [35:21] but I did want to address we have an [35:23] interlocal um agreement an amendment to [35:25] our interlocal agreement that [35:27] established the land bank um that was uh [35:30] presented and kind of negotiated over the last year. Um for the most part [35:35] staff has very few concerns uh that [35:38] would be relevant to the commission. And [35:39] a lot of it is is back of house uh you [35:42] know uh how we're going to to change a [35:45] few commas uh and things of that nature. [35:47] But um there is a request uh under [35:50] OCGA48-4-110C [35:53] in that proposal that they have drafted [35:56] um where that state law allows LBA with [35:59] the agreement from the city and county [36:01] to take a percentage of the property [36:03] taxes collected from properties that LBA [36:06] sells for a specific term following the [36:08] sale of that property. um it does [36:10] exclude state and school district [36:11] property taxes and in the proposal that [36:13] they have submitted um LBA would retain [36:17] up to 75% of city county property taxes [36:20] for a period of 5 years from the date [36:23] that they convey the property. Um I had [36:26] hoped to actually present numbers to you [36:27] guys to be able to show you uh an [36:30] example of how this uh would impact us [36:32] using the most recent sales that that [36:34] LBA has conducted. Um I'd also hope to [36:36] have an answer on how the sidelot [36:39] program would impact this. So as you [36:40] know the sidelot you know may be merged [36:42] in with another parcel. Um and those are [36:44] given for free. So um you know would [36:46] that then would they be expecting to [36:48] retain the property taxes for that [36:50] entire parcel uh as opposed to the [36:52] portion that you know is no longer [36:54] separate uh that was conveyed by LBA. [36:57] I've not received an answer to that [36:58] portion and because of the delay that we [37:01] had in getting our digest information I [37:03] wasn't able to present full numbers to [37:04] you. Uh but I will candidly say that [37:06] from a staff perspective I have concerns [37:08] about this in light of the property tax [37:10] changes that are happening within our [37:11] state. Um and you know there it is up to [37:16] 75%. So if you would like to propose an [37:18] alternate percentage uh that is [37:20] something that we could go back to them [37:21] with or if you want to let them know [37:22] that you would like it to remain at 0%. [37:25] Um I think their main rationale here is [37:28] that LBA would like to eventually uh be [37:31] independent. uh they would like to be [37:33] financially independent and not have to [37:35] take contributions from the city and the [37:36] county. Um I do know that it was [37:38] presented to the county yesterday. For [37:40] whatever reason, they did not have uh a [37:43] draft presented at their working [37:45] session. Um but they also voiced [37:47] concerns and I think some of them noted [37:49] that uh the development authority, for [37:51] example, uh was not self-sufficient on [37:54] its own uh was something that was [37:56] mentioned. So, they had concerns for [37:58] that that sort of being the the logic [38:00] here enough to rationalize giving 75% of [38:02] those of those property taxes. So, uh [38:05] but I wanted to present it to you before [38:06] we continue to um proceed with this [38:08] draft. Once that is completed and the [38:11] county has approved whatever version [38:12] they're willing to approve, we would [38:13] present it back to all of you. [38:15] >> But we're right now we're getting [38:16] property tax when the property sells if [38:18] any back tax is owed. [38:21] >> Um they it extinguishes. So, so land [38:23] bank exists to be able to extinguish. So [38:26] what [38:28] >> right now when they sell the property to [38:30] a private property owner for home [38:31] ownership um that property goes back [38:33] onto the tax roles this would make it [38:35] where [38:36] >> in the future [38:37] >> yes 5 years following that sale lb would [38:40] retain 75% of those taxes [38:43] for the property that went back onto the [38:45] tax roles [38:47] >> and the city would only obtain 25%. I'd [38:49] rather have our own money and then be [38:50] able to distribute money back to the [38:52] land bank authority [38:54] >> for [38:56] [cough] [38:56] I [clears throat] mean like like the [38:58] system is now we get the property tax [38:59] anyway and then reimburse but whatever [39:01] staff [39:02] >> okay now [39:03] >> staff staffing before we go any further [39:06] >> the land bank said yesterday that we [39:08] already talked about giving them 25%. [39:11] No, what we had talked about and I [39:13] believe that that was presented by John, [39:14] right? Um I had a phone conversation [39:16] with John and I asked, you know, we [39:18] would present and say, would the board [39:19] be willing to give less less than that? [39:22] So that's why I noted that it was up to [39:23] 75% and we could discuss with them the [39:26] potential for doing less than that. Um [39:29] but I was very candid with them to to [39:30] make note that staff had concerns about [39:32] it, especially in light of our state [39:33] property tax concerns right now. So [39:35] considering that if they want to be [39:37] self-sufficient, wouldn't that give them [39:40] more money maybe to be able to actually [39:44] clear the land instead of having [39:46] somebody else clear land so it make it [39:48] easier to get rid of? [39:51] >> Being very candid, right now they have [39:53] plenty and what we give them is not [39:55] always being used, [39:56] >> right? Absolutely. [39:57] >> So I think them having more money is not [40:00] going to solve the problems that I think [40:01] Lamb Bank has had operationally. They've [40:03] made great strides. [40:05] >> Um, but I I personally would like to see [40:07] more progress before I think staff could confidently recommend to you for [40:11] you to give them property taxes for a [40:13] 5-year period after a sale. [40:15] >> But if we give them the property tax, [40:16] that would cut out what we give them [40:18] every year. That's the that's the [40:20] ultimate goal. [40:21] >> The that would be their ultimate goal. [40:23] Yes. Uh but you would also lose the [40:25] ability to have oversight if that [40:27] process was not working. So there is a [40:31] um a benefit to you holding the purse [40:33] strings. There is a check uh sort of a [40:36] checks and balances as there is with any [40:38] legislative authority. Um so you would [40:41] be handing them the opportunity to go [40:43] and kind of make their own destiny at [40:45] that point. Um whereas currently uh we approve their budget every year and [40:50] we would tell them how much we would be [40:52] willing to contribute. Um, but they [40:55] would have a portion that would be [40:57] within a uh a fund balance for them to utilize if they desire. [41:02] >> Okay. [41:06] » Anyone else have anything? Do you have a [41:08] consensus? [41:08] >> I just think it should remain zero. [41:10] >> Okay. [41:10] >> I do know that there's um other things [41:12] that the land bank can do to recoup [41:16] money too. I s I was doing some research [41:18] on that. So, is there there's some other [41:19] ways they can actually put in uh [41:22] penalties more on businesses that we can [41:26] do like um if the property [41:29] sits vacant for more than 180 days, we [41:31] can start finding them. [41:33] >> We have a a [41:36] registration, a vacant property [41:38] registration that's on the ROS, but that [41:40] would be the the the city is the [41:41] enforcing authority for that. Um and [41:44] it's only that they have to register. So [41:47] it it there's not a a penalty factor um [41:50] for it being vacant. Um they also and [41:53] this was one of the county's main [41:54] concerns. Something that they wanted to [41:55] see is what is the land bank doing um to be able to claw back property if [42:01] someone sells it to someone who is not [42:03] uh who's not going to reside there, [42:04] who's not a homeowner. Um they have [42:06] created policies and procedures. Those [42:08] have been adopted by the land bank. And [42:10] um I think that John did a a kind of a a [42:12] great job explaining that to them. And [42:13] if you all would like to see those [42:14] policies, we can. Um, to me, I think my [42:17] main concern is really the the the [42:19] actual tax allocation itself. Um, but [42:22] the land bank, their ability to be able [42:24] to make money is to sell properties for [42:26] a greater cost. [42:27] >> Um, so right now they, you know, they've [42:30] established through those policies what [42:32] their uh sales rate would be and that [42:35] would be how they would potentially [42:36] generate income. Um but many of the [42:38] properties they possess have significant [42:40] leans from the city uh for nuisance [42:42] abatement that we receive 75% paid back [42:45] to us right [42:46] >> for those costs. Um so one way for them [42:48] to have more would be for us to tell [42:50] them they can um remove our leans. Uh [42:53] and that is something that's under their [42:55] proposed interlocal agreement as well [42:56] that we could consider doing an [42:58] agreement for that. But right now, we [42:59] have an agreement in place with them um [43:01] through a a prior board that the city [43:03] has paid back at a rate of 75% for any [43:05] proceeds that they receive at the sale [43:07] of property. [43:08] >> Okay. But we do like to see the policies [43:10] because I know that the county got them. [43:13] I know they were talking about it last [43:15] night. [43:15] >> They had not received them. Um John John [43:18] was recommending that if they would like [43:19] them then they asked we can provide [43:21] them. [43:23] >> I was expecting him to be here because [43:24] he said he was going to be here. [43:26] >> So, okay. Any other questions or [43:29] comments? [43:31] >> Is the consensus that remains zero? [43:33] >> Leave it alone. I don't I'm not [43:34] interested in giving any of our [43:36] authority away to this board more than [43:39] what they already have. [43:40] >> Okay. [43:40] >> I'll be in agreement with that. [43:42] >> Okay. [43:43] >> Anyone else? [43:44] >> All right. [43:45] >> Thank you all very much. [clears throat] [43:48] I [43:48] >> think that's our agenda for this [43:49] morning. If we don't have anything else, [43:51] entertain a motion to adjurnn. [43:52] >> Make a motion. [43:53] >> Second. Uh, Commissioner Murray, [43:56] seconded by Commissioner. All fify by [43:59] raising