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Texas today is Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 9 a.m. We are located here at 270 fn149 with Anderson, with Anderson, fn149 with Anderson, Texas. That's a little different on that title there.

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So we're going to, at this moment, we're going to call the meeting to order with the

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invocation led by Pastor Charles Tonkkins, and we will move on to the pledge of

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allegiance and to the pledge of allegiance to the Texas flag.

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Father God, we come thanking you first of all for this day.

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This is a day that you have made Father and we rejoice in your flag in the end.

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Thank you, Father, because support is now in session, not only in heaven, but here in

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Anderson, Texas.

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And we pray, Father, that you will be done in this court, as well as all the courts,

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and as well as the court, that is in heaven, as your blessings upon each commissioning,

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as your blessings, Father, on your judge and his absence, and Father, we pray that everything

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We will be done according to your will and according to the laws that has gotten this county.

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Father, we thank you and we have not forgotten how you have kept us safe throughout the courts.

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We have not had any one to go into any type of rage or any type of shooting.

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Father, we acknowledge that you have protected us and we thank you and we give you glory and honor and Jesus name.

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Thank you, man.

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Thank you.

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Let's do the U.S.

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Let's do the U.S.

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Please, please.

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To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which is stands, one nation,

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Hanagara, individual, with liberty, and justice for all.

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Exist flag?

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on the Texas flag, the President's, the United States, on the state, on the United

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States.

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Madam Clerk, please note that the county judge is out of the county, on county business this

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morning.

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All right?

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At this time we have public comments.

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If you've signed a sheet, we asked that you be recognized at this time while we appreciate

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all of our citizens coming and we want to hear from you, we ask that you limited to two minutes, please.

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At this time, we have one from Miss Connie Climates here in Navisota, and she was just to address item 16.

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So, Miss Climates, we'll English the podium to you.

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The morning commissioners.

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The morning is Connie Climates.

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I'm here on behalf of the Robert Reigns chapter of the daughter of the American Revolution.

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I want to thank you for considering moving the four-bar one memorial over here to the Grimes County Justice and Business Center.

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It was raising funds for that memorial was a two-year effort spirited by our regent Kathy Welles who couldn't be here.

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There are a number of people in this room who donated, contributed to that,

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more of one memorial, and I'm glad that it's going to be over here because it'll get a lot more

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disability, and I think that the man who served and the women who served need that recognition,

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it'll be a reminder every time somebody comes here with those people who sacrifice for us.

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So I appreciate your consideration, amendment.

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Thank you, Ms. Clements. At this time, we have Mr. J. Lafferty, and he would like to

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speak on the VA's report?

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They'll have to be better in service also for Grimes County, and several times I've been

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asking about some numbers I used to give report on dollars spent in the county, well after

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COVID I finally got another report.

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So I want to share it with you right quick since it doesn't require any action by the court.

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I thought I'd just do it here and do it quickly and be all the heavy information.

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All right, thank you.

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For fiscal year 21,

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the VA shows 1636 veterans in this county receiving some type of assistance from the Veterans Administration.

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That's not all the veterans, just the ones receiving some type of assistance.

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The total for the county is $20,551,000. Of that amount, 11,987 is direct payments into their

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bank accounts for their living expenses for groceries, rent, whatever. The rest of it is different

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types of medical care.

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So that's quite an impact for a county besides the grinds.

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And I've said this before, and I'm going to say again,

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as veterans service officer, I can tell you, this court

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has been nothing but helpful and supportive

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when it comes to county veterans.

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And I appreciate that.

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And I want to thank you all for the veterans.

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And you can see now what kind of impact they have

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And we just hope to continue to go on and take care of these guys and play these and try to make

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up for maybe some of the things I have to do in the literature.

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So thank you very much.

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Thank you, Mr. laughing.

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We want to remind everyone that this meeting is being recorded live and we ask that you please

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silence your cell phones and I don't see anybody with hats on their heads so I don't

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think we have to dress down.

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So now we are, I have one more, I'm sorry.

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You're going to make one.

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No, I think we had another public comment.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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It was typed so nicely.

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I didn't see it.

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I thought it was paperwork.

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Ms. Vanessa for Zansky, please.

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As she was to speak on item 16 also.

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Yes, ma'am, commissioners.

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I am also, I am a member of the Robert Reigns,

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and I'm in full support of moving the monument from the historical part to the Graham's County Justice Center.

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Just so it'll have more visibility, more recognition.

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It'll be easily maintained in a great honor to our veterans.

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So I do support moving the monument.

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And the second item I have is I'd like to make a presentation.

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as a member of the Doctors of the American Revolution and in honor of Flag Day, which was yesterday.

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I want to present a certificate to Grimes Careney for the proper use, correct display,

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in patriotic presentation of the Flag of the United States of America.

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And it is signed by the National Chair and the President General of the Doctors on the American Revolution

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and it stated June 15th, 2022, thank you, Ms. Rizinski, and thank the door to us also, if I say that correct.

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Would you like to come forward with a report?

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There are no more public comments. We're now here from the Commissioner's Court.

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Do you have any comments or announcements?

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I do have one announcement, Commissioner Walker.

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We port the slab on the animal shelter Monday, if you hadn't heard, and we will have

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see some construction going up hopefully in about three weeks on it.

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So, I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry for being here.

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Are there any other announcements or comments?

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If not, we will move on to item number 6, 7, 8, 9, which are consent agenda items.

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Number 6 is consideration and possible approval of a waterline installation permit for

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Cajun Ridge and precinct one for Wix and Creek, SUD.

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Number 7 is consider and take action to approve the treasures listed in the claims and

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Number eight, consider and take action to approve payroll.

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And number nine, consider and take action to approve budget amendments and line our line item transfers.

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And we have any questions or concerns with those items.

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If there are no questions or comments, I move to approve consent agenda item 678.

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All right. We have a motion to approve consent agenda items. Is there any more discussion on the matter?

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If not, all of those in favor say aye. Any opposed? All right. Thank you.

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We are now up to item number 10 commissioner.

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a precinct to David Elbyinsky, the item is considered and recognize the following employees

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for the years of service.

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Five years, Harry Walker,

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our road and bridge engineer.

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Thank you, Mr. Walker.

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Come on up and receive your,

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that's good news.

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Thank you again.

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Now we have 10 years, Mr. David Lilly,

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our emergency management director.

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Thank you, Mr. Lily.

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Oh, he's the director and you are the coordinator.

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Okay, thank you.

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We also have 15 years in his patty, Irmace.

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Broden Bridge administrative assistant.

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Beautiful, Chelsea, also.

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All right, what we want to thank all our employees

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for the job that they do on a daily basis.

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Sometimes they can do a lot of work

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not get enough thank you, so thank you so much.

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Mr. Walker, I'd like to make a comment.

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We just evaluated our employees last weekend.

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Many times it was brought up that our employees make us, the court, look good and we appreciate

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the hard work that you guys do and the quality of the people that we have in place in

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Grimes County.

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I just want to say thank you.

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All right, thank you.

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Thank you.

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We'll move on to item number 11 update on ongoing projects,

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Grimes County, Jail, Grimes County Justice Center, and the maintenance and storage building.

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Mr. Floyd could not be here this morning, so we do have Miss Elizabeth.

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So everything with all the buildings is going great.

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Right now, we're trying to get bids and certain projects, stuff like that,

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following all the food we was in.

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But everything's going great. We do have contractors here at the Justice Center.

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For the next three days they're doing a lot of work.

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They're knocking out a lot of items on the punchists.

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When you say contractors here, you're talking about

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call your for the beer.

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And we are trying to get those things wrapped up

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before the end of the year.

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OK, I'm here in a lot of concerns pertaining to that.

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So we certainly thank you for addressing that item.

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And I also like to ask about the maintenance storage building.

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How is that progressing?

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and do we have a timeline yet?

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It's going good.

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We're hoping,

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fingers crossed by the end of August.

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Hoping.

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We're having to get several bids on certain things

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and so we're in the process of that

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and it's just as time goes.

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So hopefully that'll start going again,

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but it's hopefully by the end of August.

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All right, thank you, commissioners, do you all have any questions?

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All right, thank you very much.

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All right, we'll move on to item number 13.

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Discuss and review need for increased law enforcement within

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Grimes County and options to meet.

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Did I?

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I'm sorry, hello, hello.

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All right, item number 12, consider and take action to approve

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surplus items for options.

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Are you going to miss Elizabeth?

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These are just items that were brought to our auction

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room.

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Most of that I see deemed,

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yeah, they're not able to use

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them anymore.

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So it's just we want to auction them

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and whatever we can't auction, we will, of course,

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reach out to you in our process.

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We're outside with the art.

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We need to approve that item.

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I'm like a motion to approve item number 12 surplus items for auction and the proceeds to return to the general five.

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Second.

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All right.

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We have a motion to approve item number 12.

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Is there any more discussion on the matter?

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If not, all of those in favor say aye.

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Any opposed?

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All right.

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Thank you.

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We are now up to, let's say it's Graham's county judge, who's not present today, and Mr.

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Johnny Sexton to discuss and review the need for increased law enforcement within Graham's county,

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and options to meet this need. You may come to the podium.

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This was on the agenda a couple of weeks ago, and I do know that Mr. Sexton came prior back in April,

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if I make no mistake, and did public comments, and speaking with the judge, she saw the need

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for you to come back and do a presentation. I did reach out to the sheriff's office to make

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them aware that we are talking about elected officials' office, and I wanted to give them that

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respect of having someone present in the room in case there are any things we want to discuss

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are give feedback too. Okay, so we relinquished the floaties there.

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They ought to put a power point in. Oh, yes.

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Oh, that'd be great. First I want to apologize for not being here the last meeting.

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I was assigned to be here. I was on the list. I failed to show up.

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Excuse me, Mr. Six, and I don't mean any harm. But Vanessa, did you check what I

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to make sure they're in the back of the room that he can put that in it'll be okay.

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Okay, all right, I was just trying to follow policy.

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We just recently had training on cyber security, so I'm just checking.

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Okay, I'm sorry for the interruption.

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I want to apologize for not being here the last time I did receive a email from the judge.

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I only read part of it, which said he would be canceling the presentation because he couldn't be here.

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That's the way I read it.

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Didn't finish reading the email.

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I apologize for not being here.

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I've always attended my meetings when I'm assigned to him.

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Again, thank you for allowing me to come back.

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I certainly would allow me to come back from this meeting.

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That's right.

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I'm sorry.

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I didn't see Chief Green as also in the room.

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He was kind of hidden behind that podium.

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I couldn't see you so I just wanted to acknowledge him.

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This is about the Ryan County Law Enforcement Crisis, about the number of law enforcement.

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Within this county, that protects our civilians in our citizens.

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As you see on the slide, this is a black, it's called black swans and gray rhinals.

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Return to that. Thank you.

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Number one is, this is a book that I recommend for all leaders that have that's in leadership.

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It's a great read, very important to leadership in understanding the dynamics of the things that could go wrong within the community.

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My bio is business, bachelor's, I finished a master's of criminology, so I could teach criminology on a college level setting, I did a PhD in executive leadership, which told me two things, one is I did nothing about leadership, and two is I learned a little bit more about it than I had before.

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My family has always been in public service, servants, my father's picture on the left here.

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He's the third one up on the second one up on the top row from the left.

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Shot down in the B-19 over Germany spent two years in prison camp returning and raised a family.

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People always ask me, how were you raised?

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I'll tell you right now, I was raised a rigid, very rigid.

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He's maintained order, at least I thought he'd be it.

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Bye-bye.

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I fall so as from here, I'm not. She spent 10 years as a police officer and actually dropped out. The tired out went to the

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finisher to bring in psychology and went to work for Cosson. I absolutely, I take a bullet for

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hearing any day. Next slide.

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This county has 830,000 plus employees. I know this is not employees,

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civilians, there's nothing new that you don't know at this point. Troopers have been sent to

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border as a governor requested, but I know they've changed that up since the last meeting

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us attending with crime stoppers. They don't send them off in one county. They send a few

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at a time. They've turned them back, so they don't actually limit the number of troopers

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that are working the county, which is good. The cost was due patrolling. They also do still

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processing, limit-crow capabilities, within every county and in Texas or most of them.

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Our share of control that I understand, we have 15 to 16, and these records are accurate

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to design on next for it on what personnel that they have.

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Two deputies are on 12-hour shifts.

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When I heard that, I was absolutely overwhelmed.

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The fact that you have B9's 35 miles up here in highway six and highway two down the

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this way about 25 miles. If you have a deputy at a family store, but it's up in B-dice

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from one off the highway too, you're going to have to call somebody else out. It's all

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syrup and B-dice is getting beaten by a family member on a family disturbance. He really

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needs her. She really needs a back up pretty quickly. Not just, you know, 15, 20, 30 minutes

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or whatever time it takes for an office for one. High speed up that freeway at night time

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that back him up, which is also very dangerous.

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One thing that you can't count with patrol is by count.

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I mean, the number is when you have jailers,

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they're mandated by the state about how many

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sports to be in that jail.

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They can't pull them out and say, OK, you six

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are going to go patrol tonight.

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It's not going to happen.

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It's a rule.

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It's a law set by the state.

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Another thing that you have to consider is vacation sickly,

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court, subpoena, district and county meetings, attorney meetings, over cases, which reduced

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the number of control it could be in the immediate area.

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Let's say one sick, or two sick, and you have to replace it with whatever that you have

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available.

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We saw the sergeants, they have to pull them out with them on the control.

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If there's other deputies within the county that have control cars, then possible they need

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to be called.

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And if they live at a county with patrol cars, and let's say, probably, we have a problem

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because whether a longer way from here than most would be if they live in my Kimstead, next

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live, please.

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The Black Swan Theory is pretty basic.

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Black Swan's never existed as force people know, metaphor is unforeseen, events that have

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significant consequences for economy, leadership cannot predict everything, you cannot predict

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everything.

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It's an event that comes as a surprise has a major effect, such as cell phones, the 911 attack

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on the Twin Towers, Texas Quarterback invasion, the terrorist attack.

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Ray Rhino's theories this, it's obviously highly visible, high impact, invasion crisis on

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Texas Quarterback.

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And I call an invasion, I don't know how many others would consider that, but when you

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have 18,000 or 20,000 coming across, it should be here within now, or the next

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weeks or so, I'm just wondering where they coming from, what are they doing, why are they

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here, why didn't they go through the white process, which is the right way to do it,

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it's according to law. It's highly probable, but neglected, but neglected threats. It has

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enormous impacts. It holds the decision makers accountable when they fail to keep threats

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and turning into test-free. COVID-19,

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free-chorus we have with charging rhinos, we can get

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sample and get out of the way. We can hop on back and use crisis as an opportunity, as a

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lot of leaders do.

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Why do we not react to Ray Rhino's psychological reasons, fear. We can

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fear everything and run, or we can face everything and rise. What's not our problem? Human

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biases. I ask of course another day when they ask me about what I thought about the border

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problem. I said, what we have a large number coming across, they determine there's been

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terrorist and also want to be put on one across the country, across the world.

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I said it could impact here, and the person answering me with this, that's on the border.

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It's never so, it's not affected me.

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That's a great way to consider the problems that are rising.

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Those have not come.

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And here we'll shame on one of the atomic bombs in an awful nuclear weapons. The other city, you think they said they're in a state of hate, it's not our city, not our problem. Not going to affect us, but it does affect us. It is affecting us nationally. If you look at the reality, bless their hearts, they had enormous amount of evil that came through and took out lives and teachers. But also prior to that, which a lot of people don't know about, I still have contact with them.

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for people in the federal side and also on the state side is the us.

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Evality had a bus show up that came from the border, they opened the doors, and let

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them out.

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It was a group that they picked up on the border, and loaded out.

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You know, the sheriff, the commissioner said, we need to do something about this week.

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We don't have any place to put them in the government drivers on the bus, and we don't have

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any place to put them either because the hotels are full of them.

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pass them and along the border. So we brought them to Goliath. They're going to go to

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the Valley. Valley Sheriff got together with commissioners. They found out that they could

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move to San Antonio, which they did. They had to pay for the bus driver and the buses to drive

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them there and San Antonio said they would house them.

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The program to pay more attention to

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information we'd like other than information we don't like.

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For reaction stages, we say nothing

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happen. It may happen, but I should do anything about it. Maybe I should do something, but there's

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nothing I can do. Maybe there was something I could have done, but it's too late.

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The

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regular brown-oh reality check is what's the big thing in front of me that's going to

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trample me unless I do something. In other words, we have two definitely zone in the evening

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in Grimes County. We respond quickly to unexpected situations. In other words, if there's a major

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issue in B-dice with a shootout, going to call out everybody we can to get over there from

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here to raise his county, the backup and support and help and stop the crime that's

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taken place. Playing political games doesn't help. Project I dial out theologically

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disputes by some politics and finger pointing. If I have the power to do stuff and then

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of my go, how fast is the rhino coming, how much damage is going to do?

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The charging rider is the worst thing to do is to do nothing, or afraid to do the right

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thing.

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Make the wrong decision, or let's blame someone else, like the Texas World of Wild,

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the most wagon commission scandal.

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But the cutting, carried by the scandal, next slide.

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Charge the Rino invasion of crisis on the border.

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131,000 in March 2022.

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I mean, I'm behind on my date on my statistics.

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I don't know what the number is now.

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11,000 arrest in the end.

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They're a cartel members, murders, child rape,

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many wanted people.

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Reality will be from Russia, Nigeria, China, Iran,

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potential threats to the U.S.

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155 countries in the last year.

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18,000 a day were expected in May of 2022.

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We're already here.

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Health services are affected.

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Community services are affected.

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Low enforcement will require over time,

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a certain moment.

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The new phenomena is federal government is bushing communities like

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Ike Valley, San Antonio,

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bus triples to Washington, D.C. by our governor, which I just don't

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quite understand that. I'm just thinking, why can't we just take and turn the bus around

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at the border and drive them back and cross them out? It just seems like a simple thing

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and people say, well, you don't know the big picture. I think I know the big picture

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and the big pictures, this we have people coming in our country and no one's saying

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about it, no one's trying to stop this, law enforcement is not ready, they won't ready

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on the border, calling me sure if they don't they're called any commissioner down there

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along that border and ask them, hey, how's it going down there, what do you think, what

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do you trying to do, how are you handling your business down there, did you have to bring in

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more law enforcement? The answer is probably true, yes, they probably do. Service industries

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are depleted. Increased all of the copies, all of the copies have taken place along the West

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and South Texas border, because of their bodies showing up in the country, on the river.

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How fast is the rhino coming? How it's time to be prepared.

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The collection is now what do we do? The governor had a meeting with sheriff's

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performance, share up all, share up some amount, and down the board on, and the big-

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The picture is the border sheriff's, more ready for it. There is a coalition now of the border sheriff's. They do consider an invasion. We've talked about what happened in your valley. My thoughts are we need to speak with the commissioners and sheriff's across the border and say, what can we do, what do we need to do? How can we help you if we can't help you? Next slide.

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And the House, we have 138, 139, on House, 131, the Senate, that's across the United States.

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That's about 7,383 pledge sliders, almost 8,000 elected officials.

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And I wonder why did someone stand up and say, why can't we do something about this?

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Why can't we fix this problem?

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We can seem to be able to fix any other problem across America that comes up.

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But this one is not going to happen at this time.

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Next time.

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It's an invitation.

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Next time.

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Thank you for your invitation.

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Remember, we fear everything and run.

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We face everything and rise.

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I stand up for God, family, country, law and order.

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Thank you.

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We've been questions.

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I guess the presentation may, I don't see it.

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I'm obsessed with the wind.

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Here's what my father was told.

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He said, if you bring me a problem, it's on.

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You didn't have some type of solution.

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I don't care what it is.

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Tell me what you think you can do.

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My answer is this.

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Not just about the border, but about this law enforcement

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problem in our area, we even have more officers, certainly in the county, and certainly on

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patrol.

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I know we need to remember where else, but you have to ask yourself, how can we fix this

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problem?

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What's going to take the budget?

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No doubt about that.

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But also we can have things that might potentially work out with reserves.

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I know a lot of sheriff's will look at it as a problem, as reserves, or reserves are not full

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time people with a buy-in, but when you have a buy-in with officers, in other words,

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officers live here, they have a buy-in because they work for the sheriff, where they live.

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If you don't live here, you don't have a buy-in for it.

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You can't vote for me.

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My gosh, if I'm working for the sheriff, I should be able to live in this county and vote for

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me.

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He's paying my salary.

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If you're interested in court paying my salary, I should live here.

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So I'm thinking if you don't live here, well, you probably should live here.

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And the idea is if you have patrol cars going out of the county, especially if I can

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for a long time in Montgomery County, let's get them back in here because now is a time

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and we need more low enforcement. If we have more patrol cars, yes, what? We can put people

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in those cars to answer calls to backup officers to support our low enforcement to protect our citizens.

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So they answer pretty simple for me as let's bring in people here. That's horrible.

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Can we bring in more DPS? Not sure. I know they're trying to do that.

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They've been down the road.

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We'll come back up to where we used to be with a higher number of troopers.

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But when you think about what I told a couple of weeks ago, this county investigated

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about 600 traffic accidents.

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Think of the enormity of that.

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600 traffic accidents.

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That then includes every other call with, you know, dull in the road.

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Some might shoot in the cattle.

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cattle theft, burglars, thefts, auto thefts, all those other major crimes that take place,

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600 traffic accidents, that's not one where you just drive up and you handle the reforms

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they fill us out, it takes an officer a little bit of time to correct those problems, fix

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what's in the file, write it down, send it off to make sure everything's correct on it,

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so everybody works out well with the insurance in that.

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That's a lot of time, we're now in investigation of accidents, not only everything else I have to do.

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So a fix in the problem is, yes, we do need more people.

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But I have an answer how to do that, not really other than the few things I mentioned.

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I hope we can do that.

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Thank you for coming.

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Thank you, Mr. Sexton, for your presentation.

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We are currently in budget reviews and the sheriff's office has presented their budget.

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I'm just curious, did you have an opportunity to speak to our elected officials, our sheriff,

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or any members of his...

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I've talked to a few employees.

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Not that I'm coming in and saying, hey, I need to know all this data about your department.

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I'm not doing that. I don't want to know that. That's not my business. That's your business.

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My business is almost civilian, and I want to make sure this community, and I didn't

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live in Minnesota.

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But this community, this county is protected.

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I know what it's like to be out there by yourself as a deputy on the roadway.

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And some of my starts beating on you. And you're wondering where you're back up is, well, at least 20 miles a week. Well, let's say 20 miles, as I'm on the ground getting my head kicked in, that's going to take me about 15 minutes, hope he doesn't die for it gets here.

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And I hope I survive this as a guy's trying to take the gun in the holster. Those little face come into mind, play pretty quickly when you're being assaulted by someone.

453
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,120
And certainly when you're trying to put someone under arrest, that's a lot bigger than your or it's a gun battle.

454
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,240
There's a few more issues that come into play with you might die on this God.

455
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,080
One thing about all should be going to get up in the morning.

456
00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:36,500
I always did.

457
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,660
I looked in the mirror and said today, today's a good day.

458
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,840
I'm coming back home, the same way I got here.

459
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:48,520
God will not beat up and how to uniform ripped off what's happened.

460
00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:53,660
I went to work one afternoon and one hour came back.

461
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:59,400
My uniform was ripped up, I had blood all over me from the other guy, injury on my head,

462
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,540
and paddy since horse.

463
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,100
If you just left the house, I know by, I'm back here now changing uniform, going back

464
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:06,580
to work.

465
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,220
That's what you're supposed to do.

466
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,000
That's way most officers think.

467
00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:11,640
I'm going to assault it.

468
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,600
That's a part of the gang.

469
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,480
You have to survive on the streets.

470
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:20,640
And survival alone is pretty difficult when you're out there in the middle of nowhere

471
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,620
to a young man, and you're hoping to back up against their young son.

472
00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:34,580
Thank you, Mr. Sexton. Do any of our law enforcement that are present? Do y'all have any comments

473
00:36:34,580 --> 00:36:37,640
that y'all would like to add to the discussion?

474
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:46,120
I have a comment, I won't make. Anybody that thinks this is not affecting Ryan's County.

475
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,820
About a year ago, I pulled into circle to you, and now I saw that there was a bus sitting there.

476
00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:56,360
And I got out to go in to get me something to eat, and there were about 35 people who

477
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,600
don't belong here that were in there buying food and stuff, some of them were milling around

478
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,960
outside smoking and stuff.

479
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,220
And when I came out, I went over and talked to the bus driver and I asked him where they

480
00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:08,000
were from and where they were going.

481
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:12,920
Well, they were coming from Houston headed to Dallas, and I asked him, I said, are these

482
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,020
illegal's on this bus?

483
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,560
He said, yes, some of them probably are, I said, what are you going to do with me?

484
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:17,900
He said, you want some of them?

485
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,500
I said, no.

486
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:25,500
So they're looking for a place to get rid of, and some of them probably stayed here now, so, you know.

487
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,900
Well, again, I don't want to sound prejudice, I'm not prejudice.

488
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:36,980
I had a custodian work for almost 20 years at the college, a bright, bright person, bright employee.

489
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:41,860
She's from El Salvador. She came over here with a green part, with one daughter.

490
00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:46,720
She said to each other, she went through and got her American citizenship.

491
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,000
It took her two years to do that.

492
00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:54,440
She studied better American systems, you know, and it's fraught to be here, fraught American.

493
00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:58,060
She strived to do the right thing, and she is doing the right thing.

494
00:37:58,420 --> 00:38:01,220
That's all I'm asking you, so they do the right thing.

495
00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:03,600
Thank you once again.

496
00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:16,060
I recently read article and I'd like to tell you, it was a story just recently introduced

497
00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:23,360
from the Wall Street Journal, that talked about rural American reels from violent crimes.

498
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,300
People lose in their ever-loving minds.

499
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:35,940
So it's a great read on what's happening post-pandemic and the challenges that we as a nation

500
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:36,480
face.

501
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:40,440
So we really appreciate you coming, which your presentation this morning.

502
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:49,440
I'm glad the law enforcement came out also to hear what you had to present and we want to thank them also coming over.

503
00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:56,940
And with that being said, then we'll move on to item number 14.

504
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:09,720
This is consider and take action on the 20, 22, 20, 23 renewal notice and benefit confirmation provided by Texas Association.

505
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:17,220
county for county employee health and dental benefits. It's presented by our human resource

506
00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:19,220
director, Ms. Toledo Coleman.

507
00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:22,840
You are provided documents,

508
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:26,880
consideration for renewing

509
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,640
our employees, health, dental, and live benefits, which I'll have any questions over

510
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680
those first before we get started.

511
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:42,500
Yes, ma'am. I think we received several options. So if you'd like to walk us through some

512
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,480
those options, I'd greatly appreciate it.

513
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,400
So we'll start with the 2022, 2022 Great Alternate Plan for Ptozal.

514
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,580
Your first column shows you the current year plan, which is what we currently have,

515
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:57,760
and the rates that we are currently paying.

516
00:39:59,060 --> 00:39:59,980
One of the documents that you read.

517
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:07,700
Proceed.

518
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:13,280
on what you see is if we keep the same plan, exactly how we have it, those will be your

519
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,700
new renewal rates. You have an option 1 and an option 2.

520
00:40:19,340 --> 00:40:24,220
Is code, you send a separate document, so which ones are you warning us to,

521
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,560
you can proceed.

522
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:39,720
So on the first sheet that gives you exactly what we have and what our new rates are going

523
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,080
be and then a couple of different options.

524
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,620
The main difference between options one and option two and what we currently have is it

525
00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:52,240
increases the employees' co-pay and increases the deductible.

526
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,300
Last year we switched from a grandfather plan to a non-grandfather plan.

527
00:40:58,460 --> 00:41:03,540
I was questioned by another boy if our rate's going up was that effective because we switched

528
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:05,380
from a grandfather to a non-grandfather.

529
00:41:05,380 --> 00:41:06,960
Now, that was not the case.

530
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,200
It has been out of claims that tap paid out or up a half.

531
00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:13,400
Mercy is what we actually paid in.

532
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,680
When we switched last year, we had a $600 deductible.

533
00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:20,780
We switched to this non-grandfather plan because it offered a lot

534
00:41:20,780 --> 00:41:24,200
of additional free benefits to our employees

535
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,460
and it lowered the co-pays.

536
00:41:26,980 --> 00:41:30,900
And we got rid of our deductible for our prescription plan.

537
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:34,480
So just keep in mind, we did increase the employees' deductibles

538
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,400
from last year to this year.

539
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,560
In order to lower the rates down,

540
00:41:39,940 --> 00:41:41,740
you have to have a higher deductible

541
00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:43,920
at the employees that be required to meet.

542
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,460
So one of the reasons why, if you look at the next page,

543
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,840
behind that one at the 12-month medical report,

544
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,920
it is from April 2021 through March of 2022.

545
00:41:57,260 --> 00:41:58,860
I'm going to check this here.

546
00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:09,440
On average, average subscribers, we had 179 average members,

547
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,160
which is your subscriber plus dependence.

548
00:42:12,220 --> 00:42:15,240
We had 283 members.

549
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,200
Total contribution in those 12 months from the county

550
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,340
and the employee is 1.9 million.

551
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,000
That is broken down by medical and pharmacy.

552
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,260
But we paid out, if you look at the paid out column,

553
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,160
we paid out 2.1 million.

554
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,680
Which means we contributed less than what they actually paid out.

555
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:38,400
So that was one of the biggest factors of our rate,

556
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,180
And the pool plays the remaining balance.

557
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:43,360
The pool pays the remaining.

558
00:42:43,580 --> 00:42:45,560
So that's one of the advantages of being in the pool.

559
00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:48,380
You have some that pay in more, and don't have all the payouts.

560
00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:50,780
And then you have some, like that's this past year,

561
00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:54,800
didn't pay in enough, but the pool still covered all the costs.

562
00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:06,590
The next page, you'll see it's some benefits that were paid out.

563
00:43:08,170 --> 00:43:10,470
It shows you, of course, these are actual claims.

564
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:14,630
everything is encrypted, so there's no identifying information.

565
00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:21,510
But you can look through that and you can see some of the medical claims that were paid out.

566
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:27,050
We had $320,000 that was paid out to one of our members.

567
00:43:29,380 --> 00:43:34,300
We also had one that was at 281,000, 100 and 58,000.

568
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,720
And then it kind of goes down from there.

569
00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:37,800
But we have some pretty big claims this past year.

570
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:53,280
Are these the numbers, or did you get an opportunity to talk back with tech yesterday?

571
00:43:54,320 --> 00:44:00,820
Okay, did they offer any new information on what you and I would discuss it on the phone?

572
00:44:01,020 --> 00:44:02,040
Yeah, the deductibles.

573
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,720
I have that from here.

574
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:04,320
That's it.

575
00:44:04,460 --> 00:44:05,320
That out yesterday, even.

576
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Okay.

577
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:15,580
So in 2020, if you want to talk about that real quick, we had 66 members meet the deductible.

578
00:44:17,180 --> 00:44:27,360
And 2021, we had 65 meet that deductible, and so far from October to April, we've had 37 people meet the current deductibles.

579
00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:29,880
So they are meetings pretty consistent.

580
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,380
The deductible we currently have is about 50, 70, 50,

581
00:44:39,290 --> 00:44:45,290
and that was a concern that you and I talked about if they were actually meeting deductible.

582
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:49,450
So if the court opt to take one of the optional plans,

583
00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:54,090
then it would potentially affect 66 of our employees.

584
00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:56,870
That seems to be the running number,

585
00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:59,850
66, and 225, and 225.

586
00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:10,180
And when they don't meet the deductibles, then they're paying higher costs.

587
00:45:10,580 --> 00:45:10,660
Right.

588
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,680
If you want to talk about the option of date, you sent us yesterday else.

589
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,800
Do you have any other questions about the reports that were provided? They sent several different ones.

590
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,380
Yeah.

591
00:45:31,410 --> 00:45:31,630
Okay.

592
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:33,910
We can go back to the first page.

593
00:45:36,330 --> 00:45:39,350
So you were sent an Excel spreadsheet that looks like this.

594
00:45:39,350 --> 00:45:44,670
that goes along with the renewal options, option 1, option 2.

595
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:47,170
All right.

596
00:45:50,250 --> 00:45:57,890
So what we're looking at in our current deductible out of network is 750.

597
00:45:59,770 --> 00:46:02,190
And then the out of network is 1000.

598
00:46:03,150 --> 00:46:09,090
If we move to option 1, deductible increases to 1000 and 3000.

599
00:46:09,090 --> 00:46:28,830
and option 2, 1500 to 4,500. Also, along with those the changes that we would see from where we currently pay 25 dollars for an office visit, the office visits would increase with either option to 30 dollars, right?

600
00:46:28,830 --> 00:46:29,390
Okay,

601
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:45,660
so option one you want to go with what we're saving if we go with a different option if you look at your current plan

602
00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:53,200
You'll see that you have employee only cost our old rate, which is basically our current rate and then the new rate of what it will be

603
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,800
that increase is increase

604
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,380
per month

605
00:46:57,380 --> 00:46:58,580
per member

606
00:46:58,580 --> 00:47:01,000
currently we have a hundred and eighty-one members

607
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:11,880
So if you take the new rate and the difference, increase cost, times 181 employees,

608
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,260
times a year.

609
00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:24,580
It's 136,358 dollars and 16 cents increase for employee only, which is the county,

610
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:29,420
currently

611
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:51,100
It also will affect the employees who have dependents, so you see the E.C. that's employee child, the E.M.C. that's employees with multiple children, E.S. is employee spouse, and then E.F. is employee family, so you can see what those costs increase will be by maintaining the current plan.

612
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:57,180
which, in my opinion, is the best policy or best coverage for our employees,

613
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,800
due to it's not increasing their deductibles,

614
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,860
or they have to pay out in order to meet for the insurance benefits to kick in.

615
00:48:05,140 --> 00:48:06,680
And it doesn't raise their co-pays.

616
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,320
Option one, you can look and see what those figures are.

617
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,360
I don't think I need to read out every single one of them,

618
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,800
but we'll just look at employee only.

619
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:19,380
Option one, if the county chose to go to that,

620
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:25,760
It's increasing the rate from 837 to 879-86, which is an increase of 42-86.

621
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:32,320
You take those figures in times the amount of employees per month, and that's a $93,000 increase.

622
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,860
Which is a savings of 43,266-24 from our current plan.

623
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,560
And then option two.

624
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,680
Could you go back just one moment?

625
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:45,100
But that does increase the...

626
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:48,500
That increases their copay and their deductible.

627
00:48:49,420 --> 00:48:56,760
And there, okay, you sit copay, it's a 30 and then the deductible will go from 752

628
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,300
a thousand.

629
00:48:57,980 --> 00:48:58,200
Just the

630
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:07,180
option one, the total increase, 93,000, 91 dollars and 92 cents.

631
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:17,620
If you want to option two, which in my opinion does not even need to be considered, because

632
00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:20,960
with pretty much doubles are employees deductible rate

633
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,200
that they have to meet.

634
00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:24,360
To meet, the old rate is 837.

635
00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:27,160
The new rate would be 845, 84.

636
00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:30,500
That's an increase of $8.84 per person,

637
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,260
which is a yearly increase of $19,248.

638
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,820
That would save the county $117,168.

639
00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:43,880
That increases double what your employee has to pay out of pocket.

640
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,880
for their deductible and increases their co-paying.

641
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,840
But choosing any alternate plan, the employee will have a higher co-pay and deductible.

642
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:59,970
You will also provide...

643
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:13,600
Additional Excel spreadsheet yesterday afternoon. We have a total of 58 employees currently that has dependents covered on their insurance.

644
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:25,620
If you took our current plan and took one of our employees actual pay rate, which is in the column that you see current rate,

645
00:50:25,620 --> 00:50:33,820
And you were to apply the increase of the insurance so that employee, by hour, is broken down

646
00:50:33,820 --> 00:50:34,860
for hourly rate.

647
00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:40,680
You will see that if an employee making that current rate has an employee, a family plan

648
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:49,880
which we do have, their insurance at minimum increase for them is a little over 3%.

649
00:50:49,880 --> 00:51:03,520
If the county gave a 5% raise to those employees, 3.11% of our 5% raise or their 5% raise would go directly to their insurance because of the cost of this one.

650
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:13,020
And then I'll also give you an option which would show the percentage rates, if the insurance court chose option one.

651
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,500
I did not give you numbers for option two because I do not think that that needs to be considered.

652
00:51:28,570 --> 00:51:33,790
Our dental rates are not going up, and our life insurance is not going up, so this is just

653
00:51:33,790 --> 00:51:34,070
held.

654
00:51:46,010 --> 00:51:46,350
Okay.

655
00:51:46,850 --> 00:51:51,750
The last email I received was this sheet, did you send some of the napkin in it?

656
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:56,550
There was two tabs in the bottom of that one, Excel sheet.

657
00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:02,230
Maybe I didn't go to the table, so, okay.

658
00:52:03,850 --> 00:52:04,790
Thank you.

659
00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:25,940
Commissioner, you all have any questions for Ms. Coleman at this time?

660
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:34,820
The difference between, I guess, the current renewal, and then option one, cost to the county is around 40.

661
00:52:35,660 --> 00:52:36,800
You have the difference between now.

662
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,640
The savings.

663
00:52:38,620 --> 00:52:40,860
Well, yeah, but how much is it always saying?

664
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,990
43,000, 266, 24 if you go with option one.

665
00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:51,890
But the benefits to the county employees will be.

666
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:53,610
You're going to rate their deductible.

667
00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:02,020
It's not really, well, all of our benefits are great benefits for our employees.

668
00:53:02,540 --> 00:53:09,760
I mean, that's one of the things we talk about when we, it's an incentive for people

669
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,460
to work here in Grimes County because of the benefits.

670
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:18,740
What type of increased did we see last year?

671
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,940
Well last year it was a hundred million dollars.

672
00:53:26,550 --> 00:53:33,310
because we know that Dental didn't change, but Dental, Dental and everything changed last year, just a little.

673
00:53:33,530 --> 00:53:35,730
But this year, this year, no, it's not changing.

674
00:53:36,010 --> 00:53:36,770
And your life's not changing.

675
00:53:38,350 --> 00:53:40,130
And I wear prescription.

676
00:53:40,930 --> 00:53:42,030
None of that change.

677
00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:43,070
That's not the attack.

678
00:53:43,310 --> 00:53:45,030
But yes, man, that's not changing either.

679
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:49,850
But that's also a benefit, you know, to our employees.

680
00:53:49,850 --> 00:53:50,930
So,

681
00:53:55,150 --> 00:54:00,430
but the biggest change, and the biggest change was because we've had a couple of

682
00:54:00,430 --> 00:54:01,030
very large.

683
00:54:01,330 --> 00:54:01,890
Yeah.

684
00:54:02,170 --> 00:54:08,530
So, another sheet that was provided explained how much our benefits pull.

685
00:54:09,890 --> 00:54:13,850
When we switched last year from the grandfather plan to the non-grandfather plan, we were just

686
00:54:13,850 --> 00:54:17,050
barely in the pandemic, so there wasn't a lot of hard numbers.

687
00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:23,830
Since COVID, the late 20s, and all the way through early 22, so far the poll has paid

688
00:54:23,830 --> 00:54:31,110
out nearly $37 million in COVID-related expenses, a much new $37 million.

689
00:54:33,860 --> 00:54:35,020
Just for Grimescoun?

690
00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:35,320
No.

691
00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:36,140
The poll.

692
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,000
The poll.

693
00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:37,940
Thank you.

694
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:38,940
Yes, the poll.

695
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:46,960
The way they determined what they needed in order to recoup the poll's expense, the

696
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:53,800
had to set a bare minimum percent to increase, which is 5.9% that was a bare minimum.

697
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,680
Some were a little higher, some were a little lower.

698
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:59,720
I guess that earlier ours had to go up to the 7.5.

699
00:55:03,580 --> 00:55:24,560
So that's why we're sitting at the seven and a half percent. The actual inflation cost for Texas, increase for insurance company, is anywhere from 9.8% to 13.8%. So even though we're at a seven and a half percent, we're still below the state average, everybody else's insurance is going to happen.

700
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:30,380
So, a couple of comments on this, I believe that the health insurance is one of the most

701
00:55:30,380 --> 00:55:35,800
valuable and important benefits that are offered in Grimes County, and if we need to cut

702
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,060
somewhere, I don't think health insurance is where we need to do it.

703
00:55:40,380 --> 00:55:49,720
I also need to point out that the tax payers do contribute about $11,000 per employee to pay

704
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:50,840
for the health insurance.

705
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,720
And

706
00:55:57,730 --> 00:56:06,770
I think probably who the years, it's not unusual to see just like inflation on everything else.

707
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:10,170
You also have it which you're insurance rates.

708
00:56:10,850 --> 00:56:17,270
So that's why I was asking, was it out of range from what we typically see?

709
00:56:17,950 --> 00:56:23,990
You know, we know that those, that's probably one of the things where we're going to see an increase annually.

710
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:37,850
So it's either, we have an increased regardless, but we either save by changing shifting burdens

711
00:56:37,850 --> 00:56:45,130
to either the employee or the county pays, the benefits for the employee,

712
00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:48,590
but somebody pays.

713
00:56:48,590 --> 00:56:56,850
It doesn't go away, and with your increase, and that's the reason why we talked about deductibles.

714
00:56:58,350 --> 00:57:04,690
You and I on the phone is, you know, if you are a family, well, co-paste.

715
00:57:05,470 --> 00:57:13,930
If you're a family and you have multiple children and you're taking your children to the doctor quite often, that can be quite cost,

716
00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:16,190
Are you a chronic sufferer?

717
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:20,170
Most doctors office is going to charge a co-pay for each.

718
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:26,410
So if you have four kids, and you all go to the doctor together, then you're paying four

719
00:57:26,410 --> 00:57:29,270
times a co-pay for that doctor's visit.

720
00:57:29,730 --> 00:57:34,510
So even with our co-paste being at $25, if we have employees who have multiple children, they

721
00:57:34,510 --> 00:57:38,190
happen to get all sick of the same time, which happens quite frequently because they pass

722
00:57:38,190 --> 00:57:38,870
germs around.

723
00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:47,110
They could go in and one doctor says it could cost them $1.00 and it's easier for them

724
00:57:47,110 --> 00:57:51,710
also to meet the deductible with the law or deductible.

725
00:57:51,890 --> 00:57:55,210
I think today is a economy if we raise the deductible.

726
00:57:55,630 --> 00:57:59,910
That's why I said the option to, in my opinion, is to just not even be considered.

727
00:58:00,670 --> 00:58:05,930
It's going to be hard for some employees if they have to use the adequate work doctor to come up with that type of

728
00:58:10,250 --> 00:58:20,530
And we've seen, we've been in a pandemic, we are just emerging, and we still don't know where we're headed at this current time.

729
00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:24,070
I mean, we've had some success,

730
00:58:36,140 --> 00:58:41,320
but we're still seeing the trending apparently, so.

731
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:51,600
Yes. So we talked about post pandemic early. This is some of the results of being in a pandemic

732
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:58,000
that you see a lot more claims had to be paid out. Because people are still, you have

733
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:07,160
long haulers now and we still have children who may not who are at risk being in school

734
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:17,880
with multiple children, and so I just think that in my opinion, and I'm just talking to the court.

735
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:26,080
I think what we offer our employees is a good benefit to them.

736
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:37,920
And that's what we talk about the need for making sure that our employees are getting

737
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,680
those incentives.

738
00:59:38,980 --> 00:59:42,680
When we're trying to get people to come to work to Grimes County and to stay with

739
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:49,900
Grimes County, these are the things that people look at because if you're monet, I'm

740
00:59:49,900 --> 00:59:54,900
not, may not use this word right, but if it were money, these benefits are money to

741
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:59,820
employees. So if another county offers better benefit.

742
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,960
It's then, you know, we have that problem with, you know, grooming employees and then we lose them. So this is all part of considering trying to keep our employees here.

743
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:21,100
And we've heard from our employees, some of them directly this year, about the effects of the coverage we did go to.

744
01:00:21,340 --> 01:00:26,780
So we definitely don't want to run into more of those issues that we ran into.

745
01:00:26,780 --> 01:00:32,480
But it's still a great benefit to have this current pack that we have.

746
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:32,640
We,

747
01:00:38,020 --> 01:00:42,360
what pressure machines they can get by these testing kits for free.

748
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:51,020
There's a lot of, you know, you get a wellness exam for colonoscopies and stuff like that that are other planned and provide.

749
01:00:52,460 --> 01:00:55,040
Which after talking with the tech,

750
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:00,820
If I go into the different options, those necessarily want to affect those, it just might be

751
01:01:00,820 --> 01:01:05,020
affective costs that would be aburting back to the employee.

752
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:12,360
Well, I'm going to ask you to speak, they asked us IT to speak directly into the mics because

753
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,660
we got a new recording system and we want to make sure that we're recording, you know,

754
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:23,280
everywhere that's being said and you just said something that was really important that

755
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,460
some of the perks that we saw with changing to this plan last year, right?

756
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Right, so our employees can receive free blood pressure kits to manage their blood pressures.

757
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:42,480
They can get a free diabetes kit with monitoring services and they can also have colonoscopies

758
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,640
and a couple of other different annual exams that they normally would have had to pay for on the previous plan.

759
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,120
Those are all included.

760
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,720
Now, about changing into the different options, it doesn't necessarily mean that those services

761
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:58,200
are going to delay, but it could have a cost impact to the employee as well.

762
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:05,120
And we saw some of those impacts, but we also know that tech worked with the county to

763
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:10,740
try to mitigate the concerns that we did see that came to the court.

764
01:02:11,220 --> 01:02:11,280
Yes.

765
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,700
That wasn't necessarily with our medical.

766
01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:17,920
that was with our prescription provider.

767
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,400
It's a little bit different.

768
01:02:19,540 --> 01:02:21,300
It's kind of combined, but there's two separate entities.

769
01:02:22,140 --> 01:02:22,660
But yes.

770
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,660
And I will note that, based on my experience,

771
01:02:27,740 --> 01:02:35,700
most of the preventative requirements or health concerns are covered under our insurance

772
01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:38,440
with little to no expense to the plus.

773
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,420
A lot of your wellness exams are covered under our current plan.

774
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:53,940
Well, thank you, Ms. Cove, when you did a great job and help us understand and research

775
01:02:53,940 --> 01:03:01,040
the information that we've been provided. Is there any more discussion from the court?

776
01:03:02,380 --> 01:03:08,360
I guess because this is budgetary, do we go ahead and make the decision now? Is it a time frame

777
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,120
for a tax?

778
01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:12,040
There is. I have to have this fact to know about the end of the month.

779
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,700
That being said, I'll move that we stay with the current plant, the same block that's

780
01:03:18,700 --> 01:03:23,780
consensus of the court, because that is one of the drawing cards that we use to try to

781
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:25,640
bring employees into our system.

782
01:03:29,690 --> 01:03:30,950
Did I hear a second?

783
01:03:31,210 --> 01:03:31,830
Yes, I see.

784
01:03:32,110 --> 01:03:32,330
Okay.

785
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:33,230
All right.

786
01:03:34,290 --> 01:03:43,970
We have a motion to stay with the, for the 2022, 2023 renewal and benefits, confirmation package

787
01:03:43,970 --> 01:03:50,410
we've received from tax that we stay with the current plan that we are offering our employees

788
01:03:51,090 --> 01:03:54,170
is there any more discussion on the matter?

789
01:03:54,170 --> 01:04:00,230
Just clarify that it's plan 1100-ng okay

790
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:13,180
at this time, all of those in favor say aye any

791
01:04:13,180 --> 01:04:21,120
opposed. All right. Ms. Kent Clark, did you get the number of that plan? Okay,

792
01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:24,540
okay, thank

793
01:04:24,540 --> 01:04:31,470
you, man. All right, thank you, Ms. Coleman. I think that was everything that was on your

794
01:04:32,180 --> 01:04:39,020
list of things. Thank you. Thank you. We're up to item number 15, consider and take action

795
01:04:39,020 --> 01:04:41,280
to accept donation of real property.

796
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:48,960
Described as 1.229 acres, more or less out of the Darryest Creek Survey

797
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,060
abstract number 21 Grimes County Texas,

798
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,140
will our presenter will be Ms. Mary and Waters Grimes County

799
01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:58,020
Texas.

800
01:04:58,940 --> 01:04:59,340
Collector.

801
01:05:00,430 --> 01:05:09,050
Good morning, commissioners. As you can see, I am not Mary Ann Waters. There was a change she's out of town. She asked me to present on behalf of the historical commission.

802
01:05:10,110 --> 01:05:10,550
Okay.

803
01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:12,970
And you are, sir.

804
01:05:13,150 --> 01:05:17,490
Sorry, my name is Andrew Duncan. Part of the historical commission.

805
01:05:18,730 --> 01:05:19,850
And IT for the kind.

806
01:05:20,090 --> 01:05:21,190
Thank you.

807
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,940
Did you want to elaborate on this?

808
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:26,960
Do I have to?

809
01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:28,560
It would be nice.

810
01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:43,380
So William Thomas, many of you know him as Billy Thomas, apparently in his passing donated property located at two to five fanthorp street here in Anderson.

811
01:05:44,620 --> 01:05:52,460
The historical commission is ready and willing to take control of that property.

812
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:57,560
I believe we just bring that to you to make it official.

813
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:03,820
So this is a donation from Mr. William Paul, Thomas Jr.

814
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,880
And does it house 2 houses? Is that what I'm seeing?

815
01:06:10,020 --> 01:06:20,800
It is a single 2 story house. There is a storage barn, metal barn beside it, and there is a wood barn at the far back corner of the property as well.

816
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:33,460
And this is several lots equaling up to 1.229 acres on the corner of Fantrop and Apolonia Avenue if I make no mistake.

817
01:06:34,940 --> 01:06:37,360
Is there any discussion on the matter?

818
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,660
You are member of the historical?

819
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:41,020
Yes, ma'am.

820
01:06:42,820 --> 01:06:45,280
What are your plans for the structures that are on the property?

821
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:52,540
We currently have no solid plans, it has not been brought to the historical commission yet.

822
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:58,280
We did not have our meeting, our monthly meeting last Monday, because Marianne was out of town.

823
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,500
We're still exploring options on the property.

824
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,920
There have a couple of ideas been thrown around, but nothing solid does yet.

825
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:16,920
So, do you feel like it would be the historical commissions intent to approach the county for

826
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:20,520
maintenance of those structures?

827
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,540
Currently, I can't speak to any of that at this time.

828
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:34,520
I know we do have funds that we would attempt if we decide to fix it up, like that's a commission decision,

829
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,340
and none of this has been brought to our commission yet.

830
01:08:00,020 --> 01:08:09,260
Would Grimes County then have any say in the maintenance of it, or is it all look to the historical?

831
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:48,480
Currently has a value of the price of district of 238,000 approximately right?

832
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:49,060
Yes ma

833
01:09:51,780 --> 01:09:52,340
'am.

834
01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:53,660
And considered the ancients.

835
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:10,680
Okay, $700 to $1,000 annually. Do we ensure any of the other structures that they have?

836
01:10:38,450 --> 01:10:45,450
So, in theory, the reality, the maintenance, if this is approved, would fall underground scanning,

837
01:10:45,670 --> 01:10:48,410
and potentially fall under the maintenance department?

838
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,920
The insurer's currently coming out of that department's budget,

839
01:12:35,290 --> 01:12:36,490
not under the department, okay?

840
01:12:38,820 --> 01:12:42,520
Is it historical society a 501-C3?

841
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:45,420
It's not what

842
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,440
we did with the child welfare

843
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:21,010
movement.

844
01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:24,990
Yeah, we're in the process of getting that down here.

845
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:38,280
Is there any more discussion?

846
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,400
Since this is in precinct too,

847
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:44,080
I believe that we accept the donation,

848
01:13:44,260 --> 01:13:48,380
real property described as 1.229 acres,

849
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,720
or less out of the Dares, Greg, Survey,

850
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,680
abstract number 21, Rams County, Texas.

851
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,600
We

852
01:13:59,410 --> 01:14:06,150
have a motion to accept the donation of real property as described in agenda item number 15.

853
01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:12,870
Is there any further comments or considerations at this time?

854
01:14:13,290 --> 01:14:15,690
If not, all of those in favor say aye.

855
01:14:16,750 --> 01:14:17,370
Any opposed?

856
01:14:18,590 --> 01:14:19,950
Thank you.

857
01:14:20,290 --> 01:14:22,450
Are you going to do the next presentation?

858
01:14:22,810 --> 01:14:23,210
Yes, ma'am.

859
01:14:23,210 --> 01:14:35,190
Item number 16, discuss and take action to have the World War I monument relocated from the historic Anderson Park to the Justice Center.

860
01:14:37,210 --> 01:14:47,830
This project was started with William Peeler. He did speak with the daughters of the Republic about moving this monument.

861
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:55,970
There is a pad already located outside our new justice center by the flag poles where this monument was meant to be relocated

862
01:14:55,970 --> 01:14:59,970
and we're now just getting to the act of moving.

863
01:15:01,900 --> 01:15:07,080
The act of seeking a approval, sorry.

864
01:15:09,660 --> 01:15:16,420
We do have a bid. Thought Mr. Floyd was going to be here to help me with that, but I got whatever

865
01:15:16,420 --> 01:15:30,620
people that he had. Syntex monuments, they specialize in moving historical monuments. They provided us with a

866
01:15:30,620 --> 01:15:33,060
from the Anderson Park where it is now

867
01:15:33,060 --> 01:15:35,680
to the pad outside where the flags are.

868
01:15:37,860 --> 01:15:45,120
Can you give us why I've heard from the public

869
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:51,980
as to why we would be moving a monument over to the courthouse,

870
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,740
which is, you know, as we've just discussed,

871
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,540
all of it is considered the citizens

872
01:15:58,540 --> 01:16:00,640
since the Grams County's Properties.

873
01:16:01,580 --> 01:16:10,220
We have a historic park where I understand or I've read that in 2017, they work for two years

874
01:16:10,220 --> 01:16:14,560
to have the monument placed in the historic Anderson Park.

875
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:21,960
And it is a park that's well visited and everything is at one location.

876
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:29,260
We've even seen budgetary items come before the court, from his waters, presented from

877
01:16:29,260 --> 01:16:35,420
his waters, on enhancements that they are seeking for us to do such as the restaurants

878
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:42,260
and the revitalization of some of the structures there, the moving of some of the structures

879
01:16:42,260 --> 01:16:52,700
there in order to make it a more appealing to visitors and to the citizens of Grimes County

880
01:16:52,700 --> 01:17:02,280
to visit and to have events. So I have a concern and this is why this is being brought

881
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:09,100
to court because we did hear about it through the budgetary process and that's why I guess

882
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:17,140
I was the one that asked that we put on the agenda is because the court didn't have knowledge

883
01:17:17,140 --> 01:17:19,320
that it was being moved here.

884
01:17:20,060 --> 01:17:29,460
So my concern is when we start accepting donations to be our moving monuments to be placed

885
01:17:29,460 --> 01:17:32,500
on the county courthouse,

886
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:39,020
how many other people are we going to have to then treat fairly

887
01:17:39,020 --> 01:17:44,300
and move their monuments, or if they asked those type quotes.

888
01:17:44,460 --> 01:17:46,260
I'm just venting my concern.

889
01:17:46,980 --> 01:17:49,960
I'm not really asking you to answer that.

890
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,400
But if it was a recent placement over there,

891
01:17:54,540 --> 01:17:57,000
and they worked so hard to get it placed,

892
01:17:57,300 --> 01:17:59,420
and I've read the article and saw the presentation,

893
01:18:00,180 --> 01:18:03,900
and it's a beautiful statute, it's for World War I.

894
01:18:05,140 --> 01:18:09,400
But we know that there have been down through the years

895
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:14,960
if and for those that don't know, we've had some other monuments

896
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,620
that were asked to be moved to Grimes County Courthouse Grounds

897
01:18:19,620 --> 01:18:21,740
and it was met with controversy.

898
01:18:23,300 --> 01:18:29,120
So that's my concern is if we accept this one being placed

899
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:36,200
on the courthouse grounds. How many more do we might? And I'm talking to the Commission's

900
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:44,020
Court. How many more would we have to accept that might want to move their monuments

901
01:18:44,020 --> 01:18:51,380
here? You know, that's a consideration. I'm going to ask Mr. Fultz, you talk about it all

902
01:18:51,380 --> 01:18:59,540
time about considering other requests that may come before a commission's court once we take

903
01:18:59,540 --> 01:19:00,100
an action.

904
01:19:02,420 --> 01:19:09,920
So being fair, if I could real quick, the daughters did not approach us about

905
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:15,140
moving this monument. Accounting employee approached them about moving this monument.

906
01:19:15,140 --> 01:19:22,400
And had was designed for this monument, and was put in with the building, the pouring of this building.

907
01:19:23,580 --> 01:19:32,140
And see, that's, that's where Ian, we're at a, we were not approached as a court to consider that.

908
01:19:32,900 --> 01:19:37,080
And this, this is something that should have come before the body.

909
01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:43,180
Okay, and that's, that's where we are today that the court, as a whole,

910
01:19:43,180 --> 01:19:53,300
who is charged with the fuditiary duty and the oversight of county properties should have been considered.

911
01:19:53,340 --> 01:19:59,260
It should have been approved from the court and the court didn't really have the knowledge of that being.

912
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:19,050
It was brought up by the previous President of the Historical Commission. It was also your building manager. I was not aware that it was never brought to the court or anyone else in charge.

913
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:21,570
So, how was the faster reason?

914
01:20:21,890 --> 01:20:31,050
So, you see the task or the challenge that we have is making sure that if we're the ones

915
01:20:31,050 --> 01:20:36,270
held responsible and making these choices and decisions that we may be made aware of it

916
01:20:36,270 --> 01:20:43,630
and we make the decision together and not have an employee make a decision for this court

917
01:20:43,630 --> 01:20:48,190
as to the facilities and the grounds of this court house.

918
01:20:48,190 --> 01:20:54,130
So, I see Ms. Lucy back there jumping and you just jumping?

919
01:20:55,310 --> 01:20:57,450
Okay, all right, you didn't have any comment.

920
01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:05,200
Well, at this, if it's just about the movement,

921
01:21:07,140 --> 01:21:09,420
let me, will you come to the podium, man?

922
01:21:15,530 --> 01:21:19,650
So, the original plan for the movement of the monument was included in the building plans.

923
01:21:19,770 --> 01:21:24,190
I believe it was discussed at the time when Mr. Peeler was both chairman and the maintenance director

924
01:21:24,190 --> 01:21:27,150
when we were doing discussions, and I may be incorrect on that.

925
01:21:27,610 --> 01:21:33,070
But the part plans, when we actually voted, when we were still at the old annex building,

926
01:21:33,470 --> 01:21:37,630
and we voted to bring in our grounds County Historical Commission, partner, and become a branch

927
01:21:37,630 --> 01:21:39,890
of the county, and be more involved with the county itself.

928
01:21:40,010 --> 01:21:43,890
The part plans were in discussion established to make it more user friendly.

929
01:21:44,350 --> 01:21:47,490
One of the discussions was the fact that the monument and the placement and the monument

930
01:21:47,490 --> 01:21:53,670
is not visible and does not meet the GCHC plans for the park itself, which was why it was

931
01:21:53,670 --> 01:21:59,570
to say hey, then let's move it or plan to relocate it to the justice center. So it meets the

932
01:21:59,570 --> 01:22:03,810
plans and the future plans that we have for the park itself to make it more user-friendly.

933
01:22:05,190 --> 01:22:09,210
And excuse me, I'm sorry I haven't battled on a cold all day. And to make it a little bit better

934
01:22:09,210 --> 01:22:15,070
for it when we have larger groups visit things like that. The plan park plan layout does not fit

935
01:22:15,070 --> 01:22:23,650
the monument being where it's located now. And it was brought up in discussion that the

936
01:22:23,650 --> 01:22:28,550
which is why we have been planning and are asking the court to consider the monument movement.

937
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:32,550
I'm not sure if Mr. Peeler actually formally brought it up to the court.

938
01:22:32,810 --> 01:22:35,870
I was told that he did. You're saying definitely did not.

939
01:22:36,210 --> 01:22:38,150
So yeah, that's something of course we would have to consider.

940
01:22:38,610 --> 01:22:41,450
But one of the issues is that where the monument is located right now,

941
01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:44,270
it's not visible to the public like it used to be.

942
01:22:44,490 --> 01:22:48,430
And it's not within the GCHC plans for the park in the future.

943
01:22:48,750 --> 01:22:53,270
With relocating buildings, moving things around, making the park a little bit more ADA standard.

944
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:56,870
meeting ADA guidelines and visit the guidelines to make it more user friendly.

945
01:22:57,430 --> 01:23:03,910
And Lucy, didn't thought of a start from the direction of the road on the right. Yes, we did vote on that as an approval.

946
01:23:04,110 --> 01:23:05,930
And the DAR did as well. Yes.

947
01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:12,910
I do remember a discussion on the thing, and I've had several discussions with Al, about moving it

948
01:23:14,050 --> 01:23:19,090
when this, the, that farm did not get poured with the building.

949
01:23:19,490 --> 01:23:22,910
And I discussed getting somebody to do that before he left.

950
01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:28,750
And I believe it was brought up in previous, we do, and Kurt's meal a day, if I'm wrong.

951
01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:38,270
Usually we do a beginning of the year or end of the year review with the court, and I believe last January it was brought up during that session with the court, but I would again have to look at minutes.

952
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:44,330
When we were in the budget hearing, I did ask the question, did I miss the discussion?

953
01:23:44,650 --> 01:23:45,030
Yes, sir.

954
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:47,350
And I was told there was no discussion.

955
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:50,430
Okay, so I asked that question.

956
01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:53,590
Come on, Mr. Cox, I think you had to come here.

957
01:23:54,630 --> 01:23:56,250
I've got a couple of issues with this.

958
01:23:57,370 --> 01:23:59,970
To my knowledge, there was no discussion about moving this monument.

959
01:24:00,270 --> 01:24:02,050
And to me, it's less about moving the monument

960
01:24:02,050 --> 01:24:04,450
and more about circumventing the authority of the court.

961
01:24:06,130 --> 01:24:08,670
I understand the historical commission may have voted on it,

962
01:24:08,710 --> 01:24:11,810
but that's not a formal action of this court.

963
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:14,630
And correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Turner.

964
01:24:15,310 --> 01:24:19,150
But the commissioner's court as a whole has the authority over the

965
01:24:19,150 --> 01:24:26,890
control and facilities in the county, and in order to move that monument, it would have

966
01:24:26,890 --> 01:24:32,070
had to come before commissioner's court and be approved for that task.

967
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:35,950
The pedestal or

968
01:24:35,950 --> 01:24:49,130
concrete was not in the building plans. That was an afterthought, just as Commissioner

969
01:24:49,130 --> 01:24:51,510
It was just a certain mention of the court.

970
01:24:54,290 --> 01:24:59,570
So this is brought to light, one of the issues that we have an issue.

971
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:17,120
And that we don't, I couldn't find, and maybe the court can help me here. I couldn't find a policy in the county that pertain to monuments, flags, or any other type of momentum to be located on the county properties.

972
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:25,080
If I may ask, how do we justify the money itself, the original process?

973
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:27,840
It's along the same guidelines, sir.

974
01:25:28,260 --> 01:25:29,500
What monuments are you talking about?

975
01:25:29,660 --> 01:25:32,820
I believe we have two monuments all correct me or from them.

976
01:25:33,300 --> 01:25:38,220
Within the white barricade wall area of the court house, I'm using incorrect

977
01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:38,840
Verbedger.

978
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,060
But I believe those were brought to commission's court as to be developed and placed

979
01:25:43,060 --> 01:25:45,180
at the court house themselves, correct?

980
01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:46,720
And those are considered monuments.

981
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,320
But that would have been the proper process to bring it before a commission's court. This

982
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:50,940
is not.

983
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,620
I mean, I think I have a question on if we have proper process. So we, as a group, we

984
01:25:55,620 --> 01:25:59,280
have to vote, hey, these are located on county property, which is a property that we

985
01:26:00,260 --> 01:26:04,720
help facilitate work with at wrong-verbage again. But so as a group, he said, hey, we

986
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:09,240
would like to vote two movesy things. We're asking the court, can we move it here? So maybe

987
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:15,180
we're asking in the wrong terms. But I think we're still having to ask of, can we relocate

988
01:26:15,180 --> 01:26:18,600
monument here versus saying hey we voted we're moving it we're just bringing it to

989
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,920
the attention to get the thumbs up no we're saying could we move it here no that's

990
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,860
how it was presented in the budget process that it was moving here and it was

991
01:26:25,860 --> 01:26:29,240
not ever voted on in the court and that's the issue that we're having today and

992
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:35,880
why it's on the agenda clarify that issue but I think your question of if we

993
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,620
move and relocate and definitely not arguing is your commissioner I think the

994
01:26:38,620 --> 01:26:42,840
question is why have an issue if we relocate monuments here but we already have

995
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,800
on its own county on property, the courthouse in question.

996
01:26:47,180 --> 01:26:47,680
A pretty one.

997
01:26:47,980 --> 01:26:48,760
A pretty one.

998
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:50,600
So I mean, the question.

999
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,200
So then I think we go back to this issue.

1000
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,260
Can we then, therefore, ask for this monument to be moved here?

1001
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,820
If the commission made the error, which we can discuss with the executive board, say,

1002
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:03,600
hey, we don't want to ask the commission to vote on something unless we've got the approval

1003
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:04,580
from commissioners court.

1004
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:09,600
So the GCHC group itself, then they just basically did it the wrong way.

1005
01:27:09,820 --> 01:27:10,920
They should have gone to commissioners court.

1006
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,860
First of, hey, can we do this?

1007
01:27:12,940 --> 01:27:14,000
Commissioner Scorts says yes.

1008
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,300
Then we go back to our group and say, hey,

1009
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:16,760
Commissioner Scorts said we could this.

1010
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,400
Do you guys want to do it?

1011
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:19,940
I mean, if that's what we need to do.

1012
01:27:20,180 --> 01:27:23,340
Yes. So I think maybe if we get the approval from the court today,

1013
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:24,880
then we go back to our meeting.

1014
01:27:25,060 --> 01:27:26,600
Is that how you would like us to do it?

1015
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,400
Well, the budget request was a request for that to be moved in the budget.

1016
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:31,160
Is that correct?

1017
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,480
I don't think it was ever requested.

1018
01:27:34,380 --> 01:27:40,140
They said they had the money and that the foundation had been poured on it.

1019
01:27:40,140 --> 01:27:45,580
Is that kind of come from the money and the historical commission funds, Jesse?

1020
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:49,160
It's not being paid.

1021
01:27:49,220 --> 01:27:52,460
So as money does technically budget before already?

1022
01:27:54,700 --> 01:27:59,920
Well, my consideration in the matter was twofold for me.

1023
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:08,500
It was the court was not aware that the monument was being moved here as a court.

1024
01:28:09,340 --> 01:28:14,740
the other issue for me, I can't speak to anybody else, okay?

1025
01:28:15,220 --> 01:28:22,940
I don't know what court, I don't know if anything previously was about, you talk about monuments

1026
01:28:22,940 --> 01:28:33,240
that were over at the other courthouse, but we have had a history of a controversial history

1027
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:38,540
of monuments being placed on courthouse grounds.

1028
01:28:39,140 --> 01:28:43,140
Now, I don't know who got approval, who gave approval

1029
01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:45,720
in the past for what is currently there.

1030
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:49,780
The issue is this, we are now on these grounds.

1031
01:28:50,820 --> 01:28:55,720
Okay, I can't speak to what happened over so much over there.

1032
01:28:56,100 --> 01:29:01,300
But here, this was my first time hearing about it

1033
01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:03,960
was in the budget process.

1034
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:11,260
So, I don't, the concern I have is how many more now,

1035
01:29:11,260 --> 01:29:16,160
if we allow this monument to be placed on these grounds,

1036
01:29:16,660 --> 01:29:21,120
how many more monuments we want to move to the grounds.

1037
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:25,980
I mean, we could have some entity that's not the historical society

1038
01:29:25,980 --> 01:29:29,220
that wants to place the monument on the grounds.

1039
01:29:29,220 --> 01:29:37,460
We could have, you know, then we face these challenges in the future of allowing monuments

1040
01:29:37,460 --> 01:29:42,600
to be placed on the ground, which is where I was going to ask our county attorney to

1041
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:47,980
remind us of being fair and consistent with our citizens.

1042
01:31:00,050 --> 01:31:01,030
Therefore, what

1043
01:31:03,110 --> 01:31:11,570
we're not merely saying, hey, this monument is located at one location that is owned and operated by grounds county and moving it to another location.

1044
01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:19,250
If you have other groups that come in that say PTO, this is I want to establish a kids safety monument at the Justice Center.

1045
01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:27,050
That's not a county owned, that's not a branch of a county government, that's not a county owned property, that's established already owned county property.

1046
01:31:27,050 --> 01:31:34,110
That might be a little bit of apples and oranges comparison because this is a monument that we already own purely my opinion commissioner

1047
01:31:34,110 --> 01:31:42,770
And I'm just a peon, but I mean that is something that might be considered too seeing as this is already established on property that we as county and local government own

1048
01:31:42,770 --> 01:31:47,790
Operate and control which the monument is ours as a county and just wanted to bring that out just

1049
01:31:47,790 --> 01:31:53,410
But that property is designated for that specific purpose. This is not a property that's designated

1050
01:31:53,410 --> 01:31:59,630
for monuments at this point. We don't have a policy that dictates what

1051
01:31:59,630 --> 01:32:03,090
monuments, which ones are not appropriate, which ones are we going to turn away?

1052
01:32:03,250 --> 01:32:07,870
You mentioned the PTO while we may not be fairly considered to put a

1053
01:32:07,870 --> 01:32:14,750
monument up there. That's why we have the commission's court to make those

1054
01:32:14,750 --> 01:32:18,330
decisions but without policy and direction that we determine.

1055
01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:23,390
It's a it's a it's a

1056
01:32:23,390 --> 01:32:25,850
this is here and this is a money that's tied to veterans.

1057
01:32:26,450 --> 01:32:26,890
Absolutely.

1058
01:32:27,630 --> 01:32:29,830
But we get an American flag and it takes us flag.

1059
01:32:30,150 --> 01:32:31,790
It also was an honor of both.

1060
01:32:31,870 --> 01:32:32,550
I agree with you.

1061
01:32:34,270 --> 01:32:34,450
Okay.

1062
01:32:34,470 --> 01:32:36,170
I'd like to make one comment if I may.

1063
01:32:36,450 --> 01:32:42,970
I think the main purpose of moving the monument was to protect it because where it's at now,

1064
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:46,330
it's highly visible, which is a good thing.

1065
01:32:46,990 --> 01:32:52,050
But that area, as you mentioned, is used by a lot of groups and a lot of people and it would

1066
01:32:52,050 --> 01:32:56,690
be better protected over here so that it wouldn't be damaged so it wouldn't be

1067
01:32:56,690 --> 01:33:02,390
vandalized because we know there's a lot of vandalism going on with monuments in

1068
01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:08,930
this country that right now and I think this was a way to protect it and keep

1069
01:33:08,930 --> 01:33:09,970
it safe.

1070
01:33:10,370 --> 01:33:12,550
So what about the other monuments that are over there?

1071
01:33:13,210 --> 01:33:15,150
You're talking about the monuments at the courthouse?

1072
01:33:15,330 --> 01:33:17,630
I'm talking about the monuments where this one's a locality.

1073
01:33:17,950 --> 01:33:19,290
Are we going to move those over here?

1074
01:33:19,810 --> 01:33:21,090
There's a bridge in there?

1075
01:33:21,090 --> 01:33:22,710
That's commemorative of what?

1076
01:33:22,870 --> 01:33:30,770
It's not a historical monument, it's not one issue by the text of historical commission.

1077
01:33:31,570 --> 01:33:36,410
That's not what I understand, I couldn't give you the history on it, but that's not the way it was explained to me.

1078
01:33:36,730 --> 01:33:39,050
That's why it's on the historical commission's property.

1079
01:33:39,230 --> 01:33:43,770
I wouldn't call it a monument, but there's a marker there, but it's not a historical marker.

1080
01:33:43,770 --> 01:33:47,250
And didn't there a log cabin there as well, it's historical?

1081
01:33:47,710 --> 01:33:51,330
There is, and there is a historical marker on the cabinet itself.

1082
01:33:51,870 --> 01:33:55,870
But I think realistically we are not asking to move something of that nature

1083
01:33:55,870 --> 01:33:58,730
and that quantity and size to the justice center.

1084
01:33:58,970 --> 01:34:01,590
So again, apples and oranges are, I mean I think.

1085
01:34:01,690 --> 01:34:04,330
It's not apples and oranges, it's about the intent.

1086
01:34:04,570 --> 01:34:07,390
She mentioned potential damage to county property

1087
01:34:07,390 --> 01:34:10,650
and the reason for moving it.

1088
01:34:10,650 --> 01:34:16,410
But realistically we do face the risk of potential damage to log cabins or the general

1089
01:34:16,410 --> 01:34:17,310
store and things like that.

1090
01:34:17,470 --> 01:34:20,090
There is no realistic way to move that here for further protection.

1091
01:34:20,630 --> 01:34:25,150
Which is why we're saying let's look at problems that we can conquer, which is we may

1092
01:34:25,150 --> 01:34:28,930
be moving those buildings around the part two, make them more visible to make them

1093
01:34:28,930 --> 01:34:29,370
more protected.

1094
01:34:29,750 --> 01:34:31,510
We can't move them to the parking lot of the justice center.

1095
01:34:33,270 --> 01:34:37,290
But we can't move that monument, which we'll have a camera on it when it's over here.

1096
01:34:37,290 --> 01:34:45,290
And I can't believe we sat in here arguing about moving a monument to our veterans on the County

1097
01:34:45,290 --> 01:34:45,890
Court House.

1098
01:34:45,910 --> 01:34:46,710
This is ridiculous.

1099
01:34:47,090 --> 01:34:49,090
You don't have anything to do with the veterans commissioner.

1100
01:34:49,510 --> 01:34:53,690
You make the decision outside of the purview of this court to go ahead and tell them they

1101
01:34:53,690 --> 01:34:55,270
can move it.

1102
01:34:55,550 --> 01:34:58,350
You didn't come to the court and advised us that you were having that decision.

1103
01:34:59,450 --> 01:34:59,970
I'm a worker.

1104
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,440
Where are the conversations that would be monument was going to be moved? I didn't bring it before

1105
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:10,580
the court. But we can take these on the case by case basis. Are you all saying that you

1106
01:35:10,580 --> 01:35:15,900
don't want to move monument over here or the veterans of World War I?

1107
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:20,880
No, absolutely not. And I've already stated that. It's less about the monument, more about the process.

1108
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:28,800
Well, I'll remember discussions, and I'm pretty sure it was in court. And I don't know if it was an actual agenda item,

1109
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:33,800
per se but it was mixed in with some other stuff that was discussed. I do remember a discussion

1110
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:41,080
but I don't remember the details of it or exact process of we're going to approve it.

1111
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:45,780
I think it was an idea at the time but it wasn't a, hey, we're going to move it. I think it was going

1112
01:35:45,780 --> 01:35:49,880
to be more information about the time caused everything else at later date.

1113
01:35:52,730 --> 01:35:57,570
So being said, I move that we go ahead and move the, allow the,

1114
01:35:59,750 --> 01:36:00,850
let me just take this correctly.

1115
01:36:02,010 --> 01:36:10,190
I move that we take action to have the World War I monument relocated to the historic from the from the historical park to the Justice Center.

1116
01:36:10,250 --> 01:36:10,770
Second.

1117
01:36:12,690 --> 01:36:13,050
All right.

1118
01:36:13,210 --> 01:36:21,210
We have a motion to move the World War I monument relocated from the historic and the support to the Justice Center.

1119
01:36:21,710 --> 01:36:23,650
Is there any more discussion on the man?

1120
01:36:23,650 --> 01:36:29,890
I do have, is it my understanding that the court's position is going to be from this point forward

1121
01:36:29,890 --> 01:36:41,050
that we take up each individual request to relocate or locate any type of monument flag, any other

1122
01:36:42,010 --> 01:36:47,250
addition to these facilities on a case by case basis? Is that the way we're doing it?

1123
01:36:47,310 --> 01:36:51,370
Yes, and you can reject any one of them. Absolutely. I don't think there have been any

1124
01:36:51,370 --> 01:36:59,130
recourse to how you got to put that on there. I don't see that one added to my motion,

1125
01:36:59,450 --> 01:37:04,570
but I mean you can reject any one of this presented. We have my motion presented.

1126
01:37:06,170 --> 01:37:13,790
All right, then we have in any more consideration. I just want to make sure it says that in the

1127
01:37:13,790 --> 01:37:19,230
future we handle this in proper way and the court needs to be involved in the detailed

1128
01:37:19,230 --> 01:37:25,250
discussion about it. Like I said, I do recall discussion, but there was no formal agenda

1129
01:37:25,250 --> 01:37:31,070
I don't discuss it because I think they didn't have the cost, they didn't have exact

1130
01:37:31,070 --> 01:37:36,250
location at the time, but it was in a, I don't remember exactly when it was, but there

1131
01:37:36,250 --> 01:37:47,010
was a discussion. Well, it didn't follow formal approval. So we have a motion on the floor.

1132
01:37:47,670 --> 01:37:53,790
We've been discussed, there is no further motion, all of those in favor say I.

1133
01:37:55,670 --> 01:37:56,710
Any opposed?

1134
01:37:57,570 --> 01:37:58,110
I am.

1135
01:38:00,260 --> 01:38:00,440
All right.

1136
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:01,440
Thank you.

1137
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:01,720
Yes, ma'am.

1138
01:38:01,740 --> 01:38:02,800
Thank you for letting me interrupt.

1139
01:38:03,180 --> 01:38:03,660
Thank you very much.

1140
01:38:04,140 --> 01:38:06,520
So we have Ms. Persinski.

1141
01:38:06,820 --> 01:38:09,520
We have three eyes and one knee.

1142
01:38:18,570 --> 01:38:18,790
Okay.

1143
01:38:18,910 --> 01:38:20,890
We are now up to item number 17.

1144
01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:26,770
Consideration and possible approval to adopt fee revisions in the sub division.

1145
01:38:26,770 --> 01:38:33,330
rules relating to replats, plan review, and construction inspections. Mr. Harry Walker,

1146
01:38:33,610 --> 01:38:38,930
wrote in Bridge, engineer, Mr. Harry, we've been advised to speak into the mic directly

1147
01:38:38,930 --> 01:38:40,850
so that this can be recorded.

1148
01:38:41,370 --> 01:38:42,150
We need to call our mic.

1149
01:38:42,230 --> 01:38:42,970
We do.

1150
01:38:46,670 --> 01:38:53,110
I'm presented a package of proposed bead adjustments on our first submission rules.

1151
01:38:54,420 --> 01:38:58,380
I gave you a color handout,

1152
01:39:00,940 --> 01:39:05,060
red and yellow are the proposed revisions, and I go them quickly.

1153
01:39:06,020 --> 01:39:10,180
The first item are Re-plat fees currently, or $350.

1154
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:23,910
Basically, the $350 is only covering our advertising costs for Re-plat, so what I'm proposing to do is charge to the $350.

1155
01:39:25,250 --> 01:39:33,330
plus the normal plighting fee based on the acreage of the property, which starts at $200.

1156
01:39:34,570 --> 01:39:38,650
So a re-plat would be a minimum fee of $550.

1157
01:39:39,310 --> 01:39:44,390
And we go up based on the size of the re-plat so that recovering the advertising costs.

1158
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:47,270
Plus the time and expansion would be in the re-plat.

1159
01:39:48,780 --> 01:39:58,120
And I see where you noted that the fees had been revised in March, March 28, 2018.

1160
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:17,260
So, we did. We just added the separate Replant fee in 2018. Prior to that, I believe the 70th is an coordinator for this collecting, just a normal flat fee, which would need to cover the cost of the advertising.

1161
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,260
So we know we see a lot of collection.

1162
01:40:21,660 --> 01:40:26,080
We're just barely doing the advertising for a replay.

1163
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,620
It's going to take for three times.

1164
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:35,380
It costs us right at $300 for that advertising.

1165
01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:39,890
$97.50 for the standard ad.

1166
01:40:39,890 --> 01:40:51,570
It's less than a half an avid fee, 250, so you can $5, and rings one of the ads up to $102,

1167
01:40:52,150 --> 01:41:00,110
so you're just under $300, just for the advertising, and so you're placing collecting $50

1168
01:41:00,110 --> 01:41:03,050
for the entire regime process.

1169
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:11,770
This would basically change that, and bring it in line, I believe, with other counties

1170
01:41:11,770 --> 01:41:12,790
as well.

1171
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:23,880
The next part, I'm requesting that we add plan review fees to our subversion rules.

1172
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:36,240
If you submit a 10 acre flat for review, it's just lots of funding on it, just in county road,

1173
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:38,600
which are $200 for that review.

1174
01:41:39,660 --> 01:41:47,020
If you submit the same 10 acre flat, it includes a new street drainage construction,

1175
01:41:51,940 --> 01:41:52,340
a load construction.

1176
01:41:52,340 --> 01:42:00,080
You even know we're having to do plan review as well as plight review to me that doesn't make good sense.

1177
01:42:00,180 --> 01:42:06,020
I think except the vision requires straight improvement plans.

1178
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:13,180
Should pay a higher fee than one that does not and then cover the cost of that plan review.

1179
01:42:13,180 --> 01:42:22,040
What I was basically proposed there is a schedule similar to the flat fees, a plan review based

1180
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:26,420
on the acreage involved in the flat, which is kind of keep things simple.

1181
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:35,140
So those are the two main items, and then if you flick over to the back page, if you hand

1182
01:42:35,140 --> 01:42:36,220
out

1183
01:42:39,580 --> 01:42:48,560
on the inspection review, the current language is sort of basically says the developer will

1184
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,480
I encourage the costs of all inspections.

1185
01:42:52,980 --> 01:42:57,320
I wanted to go ahead and establish a minimum cost for those inspections.

1186
01:42:58,480 --> 01:43:09,000
And then there's a companion section in the section H that specifies what those minimum inspections are going to be.

1187
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:16,960
approval in the sub-grade, paid replacement, the final inspection on the sub-resolution

1188
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:22,440
construction in then our annual inspections during the maintenance period before the

1189
01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:23,020
sub-resolution.

1190
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,540
And we'll propose in the fee of just $100 per trip for that.

1191
01:43:31,480 --> 01:43:31,860
Okay.

1192
01:43:32,580 --> 01:43:39,940
I've heard some recent concerns to about the growth of Graham's county and what we're already

1193
01:43:39,940 --> 01:43:49,320
and how it is impacting our budget for a lot of these inspections and how often you have to go out.

1194
01:43:50,440 --> 01:43:58,420
And so we have some major subdivisions that are currently in the works.

1195
01:43:59,480 --> 01:44:06,340
And so we're having to manage how we manage what we do on our side.

1196
01:44:06,340 --> 01:44:11,520
So can you speak to some of those we're seeing?

1197
01:44:11,660 --> 01:44:14,440
Because I think one of them is pretty large.

1198
01:44:15,780 --> 01:44:23,300
There are several large subdivisions that are in the planning stages right now within the county.

1199
01:44:25,550 --> 01:44:31,290
A couple of them that I'm aware of are in excess of a thousand acres in the development.

1200
01:44:32,510 --> 01:44:39,910
Another one that's 500 new subway crews and several that are involved in the 200 acre range.

1201
01:44:41,450 --> 01:44:49,650
These are just for comparison purposes. The new yearwood subdivision on the highway 30 subdivision.

1202
01:44:50,490 --> 01:44:58,330
Recently, again, selling box at 78. So these are larger developments here in the lab.

1203
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:09,500
Again, none of them have completed their due diligence process and submitted plans and plans yet.

1204
01:45:10,180 --> 01:45:15,240
We believe that at least some of them will come to fruition in the near future.

1205
01:45:16,300 --> 01:45:18,960
And is the seat or still in that stage, Johnson?

1206
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:26,720
That's one of those. That's not 1,100 acre proposed subdivision. They have come in and met with us.

1207
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:34,760
I'm aware that they went and met with counter planners, but we did a development of that size.

1208
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,820
The fires are a lot of background work, a lot of preparations.

1209
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:40,540
They have not come forward.

1210
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:45,280
Can it come for plants or middle or a plant or anything at this time?

1211
01:45:46,140 --> 01:45:48,300
But they are sure working on it to my knowledge.

1212
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:55,600
Is Crown Oaks that the portion that's coming into

1213
01:45:55,600 --> 01:46:00,040
Grimes County, do we control any of that inspection?

1214
01:46:05,060 --> 01:46:08,100
There's a portion of that that's in Grimes County,

1215
01:46:08,180 --> 01:46:10,220
those are private streets.

1216
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,660
They own more property.

1217
01:46:13,660 --> 01:46:21,960
They have not plated in new sections in several years and the last conversation I had with the developers.

1218
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:29,800
They want certain that they were going to do in more development in ground accounting and foreseeable futures.

1219
01:46:30,780 --> 01:46:37,160
I think they've got some financial management issues and I've solved their development.

1220
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:46,140
There's another large development down proposed development, North of Todd Mission, which

1221
01:46:46,140 --> 01:46:52,580
partially primarily in Montgomery County, which partially in Montgomery County, also.

1222
01:46:53,380 --> 01:46:57,520
They have been dealing with the town of Todd Mission.

1223
01:46:57,740 --> 01:47:06,160
They have a development agreement within their E.T.J., so a lot of that will fall on them.

1224
01:47:06,940 --> 01:47:11,660
which that is going to turn around the fallback on us because we do their inspection

1225
01:47:11,660 --> 01:47:13,120
to play with these officers.

1226
01:47:14,780 --> 01:47:17,660
And I knew there was a lot of growth in the south and I didn't even...

1227
01:47:17,660 --> 01:47:26,340
Ground Ranch plans a couple of years ago was to develop or south of where their main

1228
01:47:26,340 --> 01:47:28,340
focus is off of 1486.

1229
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:34,820
At that time they had put in a mud district, it's been several years ago and they were planning

1230
01:47:34,820 --> 01:47:44,560
own putting in 1,500 houses in their own small lots, not acreage, but like Mr. Terry said,

1231
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:51,040
they've had some management issues and I haven't heard anything from them recently about

1232
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:51,660
any development.

1233
01:47:51,740 --> 01:48:04,800
They do have property that comes all the way out to 1774, or after kind of beside here at

1234
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:13,820
And there is a thoroughfare that we approved with Montgomery County on the six years ago,

1235
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:18,200
five or six years ago, that goes over to 1486.

1236
01:48:18,820 --> 01:48:24,800
That was put in there as part of the deal of 249 coming through there.

1237
01:48:25,180 --> 01:48:26,400
So that's still going forward.

1238
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,480
Well, at some point in time, it might happen.

1239
01:48:31,780 --> 01:48:33,060
So I'm going to not happen.

1240
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:49,400
I've got a question about these fees, I mean wouldn't it be more advantageous for us maybe to hold off a little bit until we get the opportunity to rewrite some of our subdivision rags to determine whether we need these or maybe when I eliminate some of them or add new ones?

1241
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:59,160
I don't feel like any revisions we would make to the subdivision rigs would affect these fees, particularly.

1242
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:07,280
Again, we're trying to cover the current expenses for the development we have in front of us.

1243
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:17,780
As we go through and perhaps make some more substantive changes to the subdivisions we may want to revisit the fees.

1244
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:25,260
But, again, particularly like on the re-plats and the climate abuse, or essentially we're losing money.

1245
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:26,400
Yeah, what we're doing today.

1246
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,740
I don't think that's a good management to continue that.

1247
01:49:30,820 --> 01:49:33,900
I would prefer to go ahead and plug that whole amount.

1248
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:41,500
As we rewrite the rest of the subdivision rules, if we need to come back to revisit the fees we can do so at that time.

1249
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:49,400
Is there any urgency to rewrite these?

1250
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:52,880
I mean, we probably need to get on that pretty quick.

1251
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,400
I mean, we're having, I mean, there's been a lot of discussion about

1252
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:58,260
a potential growth.

1253
01:49:59,200 --> 01:49:59,560
So...

1254
01:50:00,910 --> 01:50:06,910
I wouldn't say urgency. I think it would be wanted to go ahead and have this opportunity to

1255
01:50:06,910 --> 01:50:15,450
was brought up today fairly quickly, and that is, I might have to do this, has been for a while,

1256
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:23,070
I admit that in the face of the increased development or anything, I think it's more important

1257
01:50:24,110 --> 01:50:28,610
that we've been in the subdivision rules, the line of current practices.

1258
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:37,900
And these rules would be added to the current wrecks that we have.

1259
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:43,700
And the ladies asked a question about the signatures.

1260
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:45,900
Didn't you have a concern?

1261
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:48,600
And the county attorney's here.

1262
01:50:49,700 --> 01:50:49,700
So,

1263
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:13,840
was, do we need a new signature page with these new revisions?

1264
01:51:14,380 --> 01:51:17,000
Or do we just keep updating it with the same?

1265
01:51:27,180 --> 01:51:32,620
Okay, so we can just keep it and do the revisions as this.

1266
01:51:43,070 --> 01:51:44,710
All right, thank you.

1267
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:48,710
Do you have any since you have the floor now, do you have any concerns?

1268
01:51:49,710 --> 01:51:53,810
I know, I think you worked a lot with the subdivision rigs, didn't you?

1269
01:52:31,620 --> 01:52:35,720
Especially with the cost of gas going up to do the inspections and stuff.

1270
01:52:36,180 --> 01:52:38,140
And the time involved in it, definitely.

1271
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,560
for our office, it's a large part of it.

1272
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:47,360
It is just the volume of this type of work we're having to do.

1273
01:52:50,110 --> 01:52:53,630
If you lose in a few dollars, once a while, I'm doing a re-plat.

1274
01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:55,010
That's one thing.

1275
01:52:55,950 --> 01:52:58,010
And you're having a significant volume of it.

1276
01:52:58,170 --> 01:52:59,950
You've got to stop that.

1277
01:53:05,770 --> 01:53:06,930
Is there any other discussions?

1278
01:53:08,850 --> 01:53:13,890
I'm moved to approve the adoption of the fee revisions provided,

1279
01:53:13,890 --> 01:53:21,090
including replant fees, plant-worthy fees, and inspection and review fees, as presented.

1280
01:53:21,970 --> 01:53:22,750
Take it.

1281
01:53:25,150 --> 01:53:28,310
We have a motion to approve item number 17.

1282
01:53:29,210 --> 01:53:33,310
Is there any other comments or consideration?

1283
01:53:34,990 --> 01:53:37,130
If not, all of those in favor say aye.

1284
01:53:39,070 --> 01:53:39,350
Okay.

1285
01:53:40,970 --> 01:53:43,990
Mr. Harry, I know you have another item on,

1286
01:53:43,990 --> 01:53:50,590
But it was brought to my attention that Mr. Lily needed to leave and I'm sorry, Mr. Lily

1287
01:53:51,130 --> 01:53:53,630
Can we just do burn ban right quick before

1288
01:53:54,750 --> 01:54:00,330
So that he can go where he needs to go. Just like put the burn ban on will be done. Okay. Here he comes

1289
01:54:01,750 --> 01:54:03,390
He's gonna say that

1290
01:54:09,010 --> 01:54:15,350
Yes, the item on the agenda for the burn ban. Oh, I did check with all of the fire chiefs and

1291
01:54:15,970 --> 01:54:21,290
They all unanimously agreed that they felt that it was probably prudent to have one put

1292
01:54:21,290 --> 01:54:22,090
in place.

1293
01:54:22,950 --> 01:54:27,250
Some boys concerns about the increase in the runs that always results from when burn

1294
01:54:27,250 --> 01:54:28,790
vans are putting put in place.

1295
01:54:30,030 --> 01:54:36,070
But I'm of the opinion, and I've always said this, that I believe the vast majority of citizens

1296
01:54:36,610 --> 01:54:42,170
when you put any kind of law or rule in place that they do follow it.

1297
01:54:42,170 --> 01:54:47,670
I believe that, again, the majority of citizens will follow and abide by the birdband.

1298
01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:51,570
It's just a small minority that tend to ignore it.

1299
01:54:51,970 --> 01:54:55,030
We do need to look at ways to be able to try and enforce it more effectively.

1300
01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:59,970
But I do feel I agree with the fire chiefs that I think it is prudent at this time.

1301
01:55:00,050 --> 01:55:09,950
We consider putting a ban in place. And we are on item number 20 to take action regarding the burn ban, and to authorize the county

1302
01:55:09,950 --> 01:55:14,430
judge as signatory. Do I hear a motion?

1303
01:55:15,590 --> 01:55:17,210
Move to the implement the burn ban.

1304
01:55:18,570 --> 01:55:19,130
That's second.

1305
01:55:20,370 --> 01:55:20,670
Oh, hi.

1306
01:55:21,610 --> 01:55:22,890
I'm sure there's

1307
01:55:28,140 --> 01:55:28,800
somebody here.

1308
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:34,460
Okay, yeah, he will need that right away. That's why you needed to go and go ahead and put out the sign.

1309
01:55:34,460 --> 01:55:40,280
So, would you like to amend your amendment motion to provide poor commission of water signature?

1310
01:55:43,940 --> 01:55:45,400
Are you going to agree with that?

1311
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,280
Oh, I'm going to make second. Yes, I'm agreeing with that.

1312
01:55:50,620 --> 01:55:57,600
All right. So, all of those, all of those in favor say aye.

1313
01:55:58,980 --> 01:55:59,840
In your pose.

1314
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,180
All right. Thank you. I'm sorry.

1315
01:56:02,180 --> 01:56:04,340
Not a problem. Thank you.

1316
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,560
All right. We're back at item number 18.

1317
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,480
Consideration and possible ratification of a special road.

1318
01:56:12,700 --> 01:56:14,340
Used for me for

1319
01:56:14,340 --> 01:56:18,280
Minarch Rail on County Road 162 and

1320
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:20,240
County Road 164.

1321
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:21,880
In precinct one.

1322
01:56:22,180 --> 01:56:22,600
Yes, ma'am.

1323
01:56:28,660 --> 01:56:30,080
Week before last.

1324
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,120
The end of the week.

1325
01:56:32,420 --> 01:56:34,360
The supervisor in the north end.

1326
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:42,480
discovered a contractor working, removing the rail and trackage along the rail line that comes

1327
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:50,220
into the TMPA property from the north. They had been working inside the plant property for

1328
01:56:50,220 --> 01:56:58,420
a while, but they are now outside the property and working along kind of around 164. They had

1329
01:56:58,420 --> 01:57:03,740
not come and request to the permit and they were not aware of currently that they needed

1330
01:57:06,930 --> 01:57:10,470
because they were on site and working actively.

1331
01:57:11,570 --> 01:57:14,170
I approached the judge and asked if he would go ahead

1332
01:57:14,170 --> 01:57:17,230
and sign a permit for them at that time.

1333
01:57:17,590 --> 01:57:20,570
I agreed to do that, so they could continue to work

1334
01:57:21,510 --> 01:57:25,630
for a procedure and bring it to you for application of that action.

1335
01:57:27,950 --> 01:57:30,050
There you are, fortunately,

1336
01:57:30,190 --> 01:57:33,370
most of the work is on Canada of 164,

1337
01:57:33,370 --> 01:57:41,270
which was the old rail alignment, and it's a very solid road, they are not very dynamic.

1338
01:57:42,210 --> 01:57:44,150
Being very dry right now, that helps students.

1339
01:57:44,990 --> 01:57:51,190
It hasn't caused any issues, issuing the permit gets them on the hood with their insurance,

1340
01:57:52,470 --> 01:57:58,990
and provides all the contact information everything will be able to backtrack with if they do cause damage.

1341
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:17,210
But what part of 162 is that on, because it's just their access from 244 to 244 to 244 to 244 to do their work?

1342
01:58:17,570 --> 01:58:22,210
Because that's all about six dump trucks on the 162 near the river.

1343
01:58:22,450 --> 01:58:23,830
I don't know if that was part of that.

1344
01:58:28,930 --> 01:58:33,650
Okay, for the rail itself, I think the rail itself, I think the rail itself and the rock or something.

1345
01:58:34,370 --> 01:58:39,830
They have not started removing the shock and I'm not certain that that's part of their plane and somebody else in there.

1346
01:58:40,410 --> 01:58:40,890
Very possible.

1347
01:58:41,010 --> 01:58:42,770
Because it was multiple different countries.

1348
01:58:43,090 --> 01:58:48,150
We wanted to justify their access to 164 wood.

1349
01:58:48,150 --> 01:58:55,130
We offer 244, try that, you have an envelope all the way up to 39, and we've had issues

1350
01:58:56,270 --> 01:59:00,730
and the folks along 164 at night ended up suffered through this older project.

1351
01:59:02,350 --> 01:59:04,670
They don't need another big construction project.

1352
01:59:05,370 --> 01:59:06,930
I might have left that road.

1353
01:59:09,950 --> 01:59:12,090
Mr. Smith.

1354
01:59:12,230 --> 01:59:13,010
This is in your presence.

1355
01:59:13,010 --> 01:59:13,710
Yes, yes.

1356
01:59:14,130 --> 01:59:19,650
I'm moved to approve our ratification of a special road use permit

1357
01:59:19,650 --> 01:59:24,250
for monarchs, rail, kind of road 162 and 164.

1358
01:59:24,810 --> 01:59:25,050
Second.

1359
01:59:26,170 --> 01:59:26,610
All right.

1360
01:59:27,230 --> 01:59:30,850
We have a motion to approve the ratification of the special road

1361
01:59:30,850 --> 01:59:34,090
used for monarchs.

1362
01:59:34,310 --> 01:59:37,310
Is there any more comments or consideration?

1363
01:59:39,170 --> 01:59:42,330
If not, all of those in favor say aye.

1364
01:59:43,610 --> 01:59:44,410
Any opposed?

1365
01:59:45,650 --> 01:59:46,890
Thank you.

1366
01:59:46,890 --> 01:59:54,730
We are now up to 19 consider and take action to approve the proposed

1367
01:59:54,730 --> 01:59:58,330
Architecture, ARPA, expenditures.

1368
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,700
Mr. Auditor, do we have anything that we need to approve today or take action? All right.

1369
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:14,580
We would then move on to item number 21, receive any updates on the strategic plan.

1370
02:00:15,340 --> 02:00:16,500
Are there any updates?

1371
02:00:19,220 --> 02:00:21,300
I would like to say we do have a meeting.

1372
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:31,120
There's the evening at 6 p.m., and it is for the Grimes County Hazard Mitigation Plan.

1373
02:00:31,340 --> 02:00:36,000
This is a public meeting. This is all a part of our strategic plan.

1374
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:45,000
So, it is here. It has been moved to here. It was originally at the Navisodes Center, but it is here.

1375
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:53,040
at 6 p.m. Thursday the 16th, and we are asked in the public to participate in that discussion.

1376
02:00:54,460 --> 02:00:59,840
So if there are no further updates, we'll move on to item number 22.

1377
02:01:00,420 --> 02:01:02,320
Do I hear a motion to adjourn?

1378
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:04,020
Okay.

1379
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:06,420
All right.

1380
02:01:07,420 --> 02:01:11,240
Is there any consideration we need to take it this time?

1381
02:01:12,260 --> 02:01:14,100
All right. All of those in favor say aye?

1382
02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:16,760
Alright, I'm in a pose.

1383
02:01:17,740 --> 02:01:18,940
Alright, thank you.