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You are alive.

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Thank you so much. Appreciate

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you. Hello. Town of Groveland.

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It is the recreation committee

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at 7:04 p.m. on Thursday,

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September 3rd. Um, I'll make a

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motion to open the meeting.

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A second. Second.

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All in favor? Aye aye aye. Um,

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motion is open. Um, I do know

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that Emilio is going to be out

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today. Um, I'm not sure if

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Kate's on her way or not. I

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sent an email over so that, um,

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if she if she is on her way,

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then she knows that we're.

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We'll wait a little bit, but

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we're gonna at least get

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started. Get started anyway,

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uh, so first thing on the

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agenda is, uh, the trail

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enhancement 2025 Trail

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Enhancement Project status. And

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I have a quick update on that.

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Um, I did talk with Mike

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Dempsey. Uh, the, the bridge

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extension, um, where it's going

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to connect the rail trail to

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the Center Street Greenway. Um,

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I believe all the permitting

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and the the permits that were

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required have been granted and

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given. And what he tells me is

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he believes that they will do

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work on this at the end of the

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month. And we think that it

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should be a pretty short

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project in the in the terms of

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the actual building. So like so

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many things, a lot of a lot of

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the red tape has to get handled

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first. And then when it comes

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time to actually, you know,

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putting, um, putting nail in

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board, uh, it doesn't take as

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long as people might think. So.

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bridge will be open this time

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sometime this year, and

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certainly, uh, you know,

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certainly before next spring.

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But I do believe it may be as

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soon as the end of this month,

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uh, that we'll have the

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connection live and available

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there, which is going to be

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awesome because, uh, the

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traffic on the rail trail is

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very good. And every time I

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pass by, um, I think the

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parking lot that they've added

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or the parking spaces they've

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added off Main Street, um, have

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been really have been well

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utilized. There's some, but

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less traffic, um, parked cars

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on the side of the road. So

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that was a goal that was um,

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mentioned by the select board

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and doing that as well. So, uh,

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I say kudos to them for

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providing some more access.

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Just a quick question on that.

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Is there going to be signage on

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either the rail trail or the

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Greenway saying access to.

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question. Um, one of the six

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kiosks that we're going to be

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putting on is going to be put

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right there. So you'll see that

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there is a, that it's it's a

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separate trail and that, you

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know, as you go off the bridge,

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you'll know that you're in a

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different place. Okay. Um, so

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that is, that is absolutely

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planned. Uh, I don't know when

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it's when the, when the kiosks

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are going to be installed quite

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yet, but I do believe most of

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them have been made or made.

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are very close to being

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completed. Uh, and so, um,

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citing we've, we've kind of pre

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sighted one kiosk per trail and

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we have six trails. So um,

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that's generally what it is.

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wiggle because we've already

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got some signage, good signage

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on the rail trail. Um, but the

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uh, the Center Street Greenway

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is getting a, getting a kiosk

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there. Um, additionally, I

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talked to to Mike about the

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status of the maps, and, uh,

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where we have we've placed all

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we've now placed all the, the,

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uh, stakes where the new, uh,

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signposts are going to be. Uh,

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and one of the things that we

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did was, as we placed them, we

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geo located them. So the data

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is going to be going to be put

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to the maps and sent to the to

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the fellow in West Newbury,

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who's helping us put together

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these maps. Uh, he's doing it

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gratis. So we're really

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grateful for that. Um, and so

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to have some maps, one or more

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of the maps completed by, say,

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Pumpkin Fest, which I'm not

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will be sometime in October.

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follow up on that, but I think

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that's something we'll be able

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to provide at that time. Um.

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one of the issues that we'll

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talk about in a little bit is

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website marketing outreach.

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definitely will raise this

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website doesn't match up with

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what the information is or has

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or has outdated information. So

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that's a situation where we

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definitely need to make sure

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that the that pumpkin fest is

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put on on the website and get

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given some more. Um, some more

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notice. Um, anything else about

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the trail enhancement project

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at this moment?

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you need a group to help with

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anything?

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talked about that a bit. Uh,

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we're we're not quite there

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yet, but I know Emilio has, uh,

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has volunteered his, his trench

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or his digger and, uh, you

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know, so that is.

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That will be a huge help.

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I mean, right.

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I mean, uh, grabbing some

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sturdy folk to help, you know,

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manually do some of that is

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possible, especially in some of

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the more remote spots. But to

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the extent we can use machinery

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to get this done in a more

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efficient way, I'm all about

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it. And I think I think there

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will be a time and place, you

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know, to get that square. Uh,

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what? I will say one thing I

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will say to add to the

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enhancement project is, as you

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guys know, and maybe not not

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the folks out, uh, in town know

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we've been looking back at some

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of the old meetings because

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there there are some meetings

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from back in 24 and 25 that

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don't have meeting minutes. And

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we're trying to make sure that

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our, um, our record is a little

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more complete, even before, you

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know, some or most of us were

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even on the committee. Um, so

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one of the things I did was I

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looked back most recently at a

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meeting in 2024 and June 2024,

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and one of the nice things is,

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uh, they were talking about

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some needs in town, and, gee,

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wouldn't it be nice if we had,

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uh, a trail enhancement project

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to handle some of these things?

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And so it's nice to see that

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there's carryover from want

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discussion, action, plan

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action. And so, you know, I'm

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grateful that, um, that

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everybody who has been involved

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has been so helpful. And it

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does look like we're getting

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we're making some traction

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Where the bench is the last of

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the materials that needed to be

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Bench the last things that need

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to be ordered are the benches,

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the dog waste and waste

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baskets. Um, and also some of

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the individual markers for the

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signs. Um, so, you know, the

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the trails have names. So, you

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know, you need a sign that

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says, you know, this is the

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Bald Eagle Trail or this is the

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this trail, you know, so, um.

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there's like ten trail names.

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markings, though. I think it

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quite finished all of them. Um,

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but, uh, but. Yeah. So those

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what's kind of left as far as

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materials. I think we have to

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buy some concrete to put, you

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know, to put these, these

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benches and footings in and

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whatnot. And, uh, you know,

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some of that stuff. But we're

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getting we're getting over the

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hump and it's, it's exciting as

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far as where things are. Um, I

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don't have I don't have a

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substantive update on the

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recreation, uh, lighting

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project at this point. I know

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we have a CPC meeting coming up

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in a little bit. I know, um,

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Adam Haywood and Rebecca

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Oldham, who are also working

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with me on that project, are,

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uh, we'll have a lot more

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information at that point. Uh,

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what I, what I can what I can

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say is that it's a phased

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project, so it's not something

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that's going to be completed

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this year. This is more of a

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long term deal. And the idea

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was to complete the the things

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that could be things that could

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be completed without, um, you

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know, without waste. Meaning if

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you did these, these series of

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things, it wouldn't be wasted

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money because you could just

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add on the next sort of module

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of stuff, you know, at the next

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interval. So, um, I'm excited

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to see, you know, some of this

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get done. I know it's like

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design and maybe some of the

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electric work is the first, the

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first year of it. So, um, when

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I hear more, I will update you

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guys more, um, particularly on

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that. Um, future CPC projects,

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uh, paved accessible walking

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path at Pines. Michelle.

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Yeah, no major updates on that.

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The proposal has been

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submitted. And Annie did

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confirm that she's going to put

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it in front of the CPC, so

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nothing more from that right

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now.

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So are you planning to go to

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the next meeting and, uh, kind

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of present on that and see

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what's going on?

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Um, I can I.

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I think that would be a great

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idea. As a member of the CPC.

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Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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happy to to kind of pitch my

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idea for sure.

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Do you have do you have, um, do

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you have sort of in your brain

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an idea of what it might look

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like?

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I do, yeah, yeah. For the most

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part, I kind of feel like using

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the Riverside Park in Haverhill

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is kind of the inspiration. Um,

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I'm kind of going off of that

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and all of those enhancements

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that they did recently with

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kind of extending the path out,

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and there's some nice greenery

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space and some planter boxes

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that are maintained by, I

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believe, the Haverhill Garden

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Club. Um, so I kind of

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envisioned something like that

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where you just have a very

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flat, walkable path around a

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nice nature filled area with

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some learning opportunities for

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the community.

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That is not that is not

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immediately adjacent to a busy

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parking lot.

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That is not immediately

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adjacent to a very busy

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pipeline. Exactly. Got it. Yes.

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Well that's cool. I, I, I mean,

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you know, you don't have to,

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but, uh, certainly if you're

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interested in participating in

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the CPC meeting, I would reach

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out to Adam Haywood and just

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say, hey, listen, you know, I'd

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like to come in and present,

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and he would be thrilled. Um,

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okay. And so, yeah, that's.

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That sounds awesome.

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With that next, the next

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meeting, the needs hearing,

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would that be the most

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appropriate?

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I mean.

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It seems like the next meeting.

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Honestly. Right. Honestly, it

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can be any time. Um, you know,

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the there's there's always time

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to to vet ideas, and this is a

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good idea, you know, and this

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is an idea that, you know, it

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doesn't seem as if it would be,

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you know, extremely expensive.

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And if there was a, you know, a

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limitation on finances, you

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could you could, you know,

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scope the project based on the

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finances you have, you know, so

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it definitely could be

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something that, you know, could

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either be phased or, you know,

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like, you know, could be the

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whole thing in one fell swoop.

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Also, um, you know, so that

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would be, you know, that's

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that's interesting. And I think

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it's, I think it's a great idea.

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Uh, remind me, when's the next

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CPC meeting?

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Uh, 21st, I believe.

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21st.

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I can confirm.

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Yes, you would know.

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I don't have it listed at.

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The 21st.

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So you maybe you know.

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About it, I.

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Put it, you might know. You

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might know.

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It better than I get, like a

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nerve. Um, I have it on my

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calendar.

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Oh, I do, I do. It is 630 on

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the 21st, actually. Absolutely.

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I do have it. So 630 on the

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21st. Um, I, I'm happy. Um, I'm

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happy to let them know that you

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would like to come. If you

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would like to go. Yeah.

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Let me just triple check that

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and then I'll let you know.

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For sure. For sure. Um, next.

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Any other questions on that at

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this point? No. Okay. Shanahan

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field, open up the few

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accessibility up to the river.

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All right I do have I for both

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of the ones I was looking at I

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have had some discussions.

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Awesome. So I have a little bit

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of information. So it was

402
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mentioned at one point I think

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when, um, Mike Dempsey joined

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our meeting this over the

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summer, he had mentioned, oh, I

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think somebody did a project

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around that once or submitted

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it. And I did find that there

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was a project in, um, approved

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in fiscal year 2008. It was

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both looking at something with

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the Shanahan field like the

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like, Riverside area. And I

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think at the time, expanding

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the soccer fields. I think

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there was fewer soccer fields

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space or they only had the one

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field or something. Um, so

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there was a project, um, in

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which 12,000 of it was, um,

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allocated for landscaping to

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create a waterfront park, and I

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did I reached out to Annie and

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then she she could she found a

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couple things, but she

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recommended I do a, um, a, um,

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like a public records request

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to the town clerk. So I did,

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and I think it was. She said

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Mike Dempsey was the one who

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found this information, and he

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said his recollection was at

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the time that Park Piece did

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not move forward because of

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neighbor objections. So to me,

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I mean, that is that's

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something and it has to be part

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of the discussion. But, I, um,

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if if I found out that it was,

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oh, there are conservation or

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some kind of prohibitive, you

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can't touch that land reasons,

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then I wouldn't want to move

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forward.

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Well, you would think Mike as

446
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head of conservation, would

447
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have that in his brain.

448
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Exactly. And when we talked to

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him, he kind of he seemed open

450
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to the idea. And I know, like,

451
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looking up the rules. There is

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a 200 foot, um, buffer zone

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along the Merrimack River,

454
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right?

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Absolutely. Which isn't an

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absolute prohibition.

457
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Right. Just to go through

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conservation, we obviously need

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to be very careful with that.

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And as we've said in previous

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meetings, we're not looking at

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clear cut or anything like

463
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that. We want to preserve some

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of the nature, but is right now

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it's overgrown. I mean, you're

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down there. It's it's overgrown

467
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with this, um, bittersweet all

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through. There's all sorts of

469
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weeds. There's some dead ash

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trees and all that. So I think

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even outside of making a park,

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maintaining that would be in

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the best interest of the town.

474
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Honestly. Right. Um.

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So one one tricky caveat to

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that. That's a, that's a red

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flag word. Maintain. Right. So

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with CPC funds, they can't be

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used for maintenance. But um.

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create a park. Right? I mean,

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there needs to be in the plan

482
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like a function, you know, some

483
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sort of, uh, thought about how

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maintenance would happen and

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who would do it, and, you know,

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that sort of stuff. So there's

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definitely that piece of it.

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But yeah, it's it's a situation

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where, especially with the

490
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parking lot there now that can

491
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house a lot of a lot of people,

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you know, to have a place where

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people can congregate in

494
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multiple ways. You know, it

495
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sounds like, you know, I mean,

496
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I would love to see a, you

497
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know, a stage there or

498
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something like that looking out

499
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on the water, watching the

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boats go by. Like, I think

501
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people would love it, but but

502
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uh, but yeah, that sounds

503
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awesome.

504
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So yeah. And like some of the

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terminology I thought was

506
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really nice because I was

507
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talking about restoring it back

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to its natural habitat for

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wildlife and a naturalized park

510
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for passive recreation and a

511
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place for scenic river views. I

512
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think that matches very much

513
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with what we've we're talking

514
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about. And this is from 2008.

515
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So, you know, this is 18 years

516
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ago. They were talking about

517
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very similar things. Sure. And

518
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so I'd love to. So my plan is

519
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to fill out the eligibility

520
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application and, and present it

521
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at that CPC meeting.

522
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The one that's coming right

523
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out. Yes. Outstanding. Yeah.

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Um, the the other thing that I

525
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would recommend is take a look

526
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at the current master plan and

527
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see how it sort of how the your

528
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idea sort of jives with it,

529
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because the 2008 master

530
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planner, you know, like those

531
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sorts of things. Um, are, you

532
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know, might be outdated

533
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relative to what you'd find in

534
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the new in the new plan. Um, I

535
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would I would be hesitant to

536
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say that it should only be used

537
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for passive, okay recreation in

538
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the sense that, I mean, like,

539
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if you had a stage there, you

540
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would have plays there. And

541
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that's not passive recreation,

542
00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:26,710
you know. But but but I mean,

543
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uh, certainly a mix of, of

544
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active and passive like, you

545
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know, um, in like, just like

546
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you're saying you're not we're

547
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not looking at clear cut it.

548
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And you know, you know, put and

549
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pave it, pave it away. It's

550
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it's, uh, how can we have

551
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another place in town where

552
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we've created this great access

553
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where people can use it for a

554
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whole slew of good reasons?

555
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Yeah. Like I think I've said in

556
00:16:46,362 --> 00:16:48,465
these meetings for, like, the

557
00:16:47,597 --> 00:16:50,066
town only owns so much

558
00:16:48,565 --> 00:16:51,301
riverfront land. Right? So it's

559
00:16:50,166 --> 00:16:52,235
a shame not to take advantage.

560
00:16:51,401 --> 00:16:53,403
Of it 100%.

561
00:16:52,335 --> 00:16:54,971
I think for the neighbors, I

562
00:16:53,503 --> 00:16:56,139
mean, I think we can have that

563
00:16:55,071 --> 00:16:57,874
discussion as it moves forward,

564
00:16:56,239 --> 00:16:58,742
but I know the town owns behind

565
00:16:57,974 --> 00:17:00,043
a few of the houses and I

566
00:16:58,842 --> 00:17:01,044
wouldn't want to propose. Oh,

567
00:17:00,143 --> 00:17:02,178
yeah. We're going all behind

568
00:17:01,144 --> 00:17:03,747
your house along the river. I

569
00:17:02,278 --> 00:17:05,148
would like it to be in line

570
00:17:03,847 --> 00:17:06,082
with the soccer field. So it

571
00:17:05,248 --> 00:17:07,951
kind of maintains that

572
00:17:06,182 --> 00:17:09,386
separation leaves that buffer

573
00:17:08,051 --> 00:17:11,387
zone for those abutments.

574
00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:12,322
And it's 20 years hence. So the

575
00:17:11,487 --> 00:17:14,057
neighbors might be different

576
00:17:12,422 --> 00:17:16,292
neighbors. Very true. So so I

577
00:17:14,157 --> 00:17:18,328
mean, you know, it's a at a

578
00:17:16,392 --> 00:17:20,096
minimum exploring it is is

579
00:17:18,428 --> 00:17:21,831
super appropriate. And yeah

580
00:17:20,196 --> 00:17:23,767
okay. So maybe it doesn't get

581
00:17:21,931 --> 00:17:25,201
done as exactly how you might

582
00:17:23,867 --> 00:17:26,536
want to do. Or maybe there's

583
00:17:25,302 --> 00:17:27,470
some barriers. But you know,

584
00:17:26,636 --> 00:17:28,738
it's certainly the kind of

585
00:17:27,570 --> 00:17:29,773
thing that is worth the

586
00:17:28,838 --> 00:17:32,008
discussion. We're talking

587
00:17:29,873 --> 00:17:33,676
about. Worth seeing what can be

588
00:17:32,108 --> 00:17:35,145
done. And even if you know, it

589
00:17:33,776 --> 00:17:37,013
can't be full bore, exactly

590
00:17:35,245 --> 00:17:38,114
what you know, you or we or you

591
00:17:37,113 --> 00:17:40,583
know, any subset of people

592
00:17:38,214 --> 00:17:41,951
might want something can be to

593
00:17:40,683 --> 00:17:42,986
do something. You know, I would

594
00:17:42,051 --> 00:17:43,853
be I'd be shocked if we

595
00:17:43,086 --> 00:17:45,087
couldn't. We couldn't have

596
00:17:43,953 --> 00:17:48,491
something to improve that

597
00:17:45,187 --> 00:17:50,326
really great space. Um, I mean,

598
00:17:48,591 --> 00:17:51,528
you know, already already

599
00:17:50,426 --> 00:17:52,829
having the parking there made

600
00:17:51,628 --> 00:17:54,130
it easy for, like, the

601
00:17:52,929 --> 00:17:55,665
fireworks, you know, is a

602
00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:57,934
really good. And it's looking

603
00:17:55,765 --> 00:17:59,169
to be an annual thing. Um, so,

604
00:17:58,034 --> 00:18:01,871
you know, it's it's definitely

605
00:17:59,269 --> 00:18:03,006
a spot. And I can say for a

606
00:18:01,971 --> 00:18:05,141
certainty that the master, the

607
00:18:03,106 --> 00:18:06,409
current master plan, talks in

608
00:18:05,241 --> 00:18:07,611
great detail about trying to

609
00:18:06,509 --> 00:18:09,045
maximize the value of the

610
00:18:07,711 --> 00:18:11,314
things that we have already.

611
00:18:09,145 --> 00:18:13,616
And Shanahan field is is a gem

612
00:18:11,414 --> 00:18:15,385
in our town. So I think that's

613
00:18:13,716 --> 00:18:16,586
great. You said you you looked

614
00:18:15,485 --> 00:18:18,521
on two both things.

615
00:18:16,686 --> 00:18:20,657
Yes. Both things. So the um,

616
00:18:18,621 --> 00:18:23,660
the shade structures at Bagnell

617
00:18:20,757 --> 00:18:26,062
I um similarly I talked to

618
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,730
Annie about that, um, because I

619
00:18:26,162 --> 00:18:30,166
know they had just done the,

620
00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:33,303
um, the shade structures at the

621
00:18:30,266 --> 00:18:35,205
Pines. Um, and she did, um,

622
00:18:33,403 --> 00:18:36,339
because one of the questions I

623
00:18:35,305 --> 00:18:37,774
had was about maintenance, and

624
00:18:36,439 --> 00:18:38,975
she said the ones they bought

625
00:18:37,874 --> 00:18:40,410
for the pines do require the

626
00:18:39,075 --> 00:18:41,844
fabric to be removed at the end

627
00:18:40,510 --> 00:18:42,912
of the fall and then put back

628
00:18:41,944 --> 00:18:44,581
up in the spring, which makes

629
00:18:43,012 --> 00:18:46,282
sense. And she sent me a link

630
00:18:44,681 --> 00:18:47,617
to some of the, like, the

631
00:18:46,382 --> 00:18:48,851
company that they had used,

632
00:18:47,717 --> 00:18:49,586
which obviously has gone to bed

633
00:18:48,951 --> 00:18:51,187
and all that, but at least

634
00:18:49,686 --> 00:18:52,922
gives us a guideline and

635
00:18:51,287 --> 00:18:55,325
there's a bunch of nice, um,

636
00:18:53,022 --> 00:18:56,893
examples of how it works with

637
00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:58,528
the it can work with

638
00:18:56,993 --> 00:18:59,629
playgrounds and such. And I was

639
00:18:58,628 --> 00:19:00,930
trying to find websites that

640
00:18:59,729 --> 00:19:02,465
showed you, like the directions

641
00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:03,766
of the sun and different times

642
00:19:02,565 --> 00:19:05,034
of the day to try to get a

643
00:19:03,866 --> 00:19:05,935
feeling for that. So similarly,

644
00:19:05,134 --> 00:19:06,769
I think there's still more

645
00:19:06,035 --> 00:19:08,705
research to be done there, but

646
00:19:06,869 --> 00:19:10,874
I'd like to put the application

647
00:19:08,805 --> 00:19:12,909
the the eligibility application

648
00:19:10,974 --> 00:19:14,444
in and talk to that at the

649
00:19:13,009 --> 00:19:15,312
upcoming CPC meeting to start

650
00:19:14,544 --> 00:19:16,446
moving that forward.

651
00:19:15,412 --> 00:19:17,780
Yeah. These are these are

652
00:19:16,546 --> 00:19:19,415
great. These are great plans.

653
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,416
All three of them. And you

654
00:19:19,515 --> 00:19:22,018
know, I think they're going to

655
00:19:20,516 --> 00:19:23,486
you're going to be met with a

656
00:19:22,118 --> 00:19:25,188
lot of support at the CPC

657
00:19:23,586 --> 00:19:26,656
level. And you know what I can

658
00:19:25,288 --> 00:19:30,493
say. You know putting on my

659
00:19:26,756 --> 00:19:32,829
CPC, um, member hat for just a

660
00:19:30,593 --> 00:19:34,030
second is that, you know, one

661
00:19:32,929 --> 00:19:35,465
of the things that we just

662
00:19:34,130 --> 00:19:37,066
desperately crave is for the

663
00:19:35,565 --> 00:19:38,701
proponents to be active about

664
00:19:37,166 --> 00:19:40,870
their projects and for people

665
00:19:38,801 --> 00:19:43,406
to come in and say, hey, you

666
00:19:40,970 --> 00:19:44,941
know, I've done this work.

667
00:19:43,506 --> 00:19:46,342
Look, what should I do next?

668
00:19:45,041 --> 00:19:47,810
How can I make this better?

669
00:19:46,442 --> 00:19:49,178
What are some, you know, do you

670
00:19:47,910 --> 00:19:50,179
see some problems with it? How

671
00:19:49,278 --> 00:19:51,814
can we work? You know, how can

672
00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:53,016
we collaborate to, you know,

673
00:19:51,914 --> 00:19:55,418
surmount them and have a

674
00:19:53,116 --> 00:19:59,022
project that is complete ready,

675
00:19:55,518 --> 00:20:01,024
and, you know, very, um, very,

676
00:19:59,122 --> 00:20:02,125
you know, a layup to, to make

677
00:20:01,124 --> 00:20:04,293
it a town meeting, you know,

678
00:20:02,225 --> 00:20:06,129
is, is, you know, how I sort of

679
00:20:04,393 --> 00:20:06,963
think about it and I think my,

680
00:20:06,229 --> 00:20:08,231
you know, the other members

681
00:20:07,063 --> 00:20:10,333
there would, would say

682
00:20:08,331 --> 00:20:11,301
similarly. So, uh, great job

683
00:20:10,433 --> 00:20:14,103
taking the initiative. That's

684
00:20:11,401 --> 00:20:14,971
awesome. And uh, when Emilio

685
00:20:14,203 --> 00:20:16,873
comes back from the next

686
00:20:15,071 --> 00:20:18,007
meeting, we'll talk about bike

687
00:20:16,973 --> 00:20:19,342
lanes and all that good stuff,

688
00:20:18,107 --> 00:20:21,110
and that'll be awesome as well.

689
00:20:19,442 --> 00:20:22,345
Yeah, I'm hearing early good

690
00:20:21,210 --> 00:20:23,513
reviews about the basketball

691
00:20:22,445 --> 00:20:26,549
court that was installed about

692
00:20:23,613 --> 00:20:27,850
now as the it was just done

693
00:20:26,649 --> 00:20:29,085
this summer. Yeah, as a

694
00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:30,186
project. We approved the town

695
00:20:29,185 --> 00:20:31,387
meeting this spring, and the

696
00:20:30,286 --> 00:20:33,022
kids are all excited about it.

697
00:20:31,487 --> 00:20:33,823
It's nice, fenced in, and they

698
00:20:33,122 --> 00:20:35,258
were already out there playing

699
00:20:33,923 --> 00:20:35,792
basketball on the second day of

700
00:20:35,358 --> 00:20:37,360
school, so.

701
00:20:35,892 --> 00:20:38,428
I haven't seen it. I mean, I've

702
00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:38,895
heard on there.

703
00:20:38,528 --> 00:20:39,930
I haven't been.

704
00:20:38,995 --> 00:20:41,064
Back there. That's so cool.

705
00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:42,365
I want to go back there and do

706
00:20:41,164 --> 00:20:43,166
some measuring, but I obviously

707
00:20:42,465 --> 00:20:44,267
can't. I'm not gonna do that

708
00:20:43,266 --> 00:20:46,736
during school hours. Be a

709
00:20:44,367 --> 00:20:48,371
frequent measuring tape. Okay.

710
00:20:46,836 --> 00:20:49,539
Well, good news. Uh, this

711
00:20:48,471 --> 00:20:51,074
weekend is Labor Day weekend.

712
00:20:49,639 --> 00:20:52,742
There's plenty of time to go

713
00:20:51,174 --> 00:20:53,543
sweet. And right over there.

714
00:20:52,842 --> 00:20:54,577
There won't be any.

715
00:20:53,643 --> 00:20:55,378
My wife works at the school, so

716
00:20:54,677 --> 00:20:56,546
she's going to take some

717
00:20:55,478 --> 00:20:58,014
pictures of the shade for me at

718
00:20:56,646 --> 00:20:58,381
different times during recess.

719
00:20:58,114 --> 00:20:59,649
Yeah.

720
00:20:58,481 --> 00:21:02,018
That's awesome. They said

721
00:20:59,749 --> 00:21:03,686
recesses go from 1030 to 130 so

722
00:21:02,118 --> 00:21:06,923
he can focus. Obviously pick of

723
00:21:03,786 --> 00:21:08,792
the day, try to do some math on

724
00:21:07,023 --> 00:21:09,826
angles and maximize.

725
00:21:08,892 --> 00:21:10,493
But what about the different

726
00:21:09,926 --> 00:21:11,561
times of year two?

727
00:21:10,593 --> 00:21:11,961
Well that's the thing. Yeah.

728
00:21:11,661 --> 00:21:14,063
Yeah, right.

729
00:21:12,061 --> 00:21:14,330
The sun is in a different. spot

730
00:21:14,163 --> 00:21:15,498
than it.

731
00:21:14,430 --> 00:21:16,266
Is true. And it is.

732
00:21:15,598 --> 00:21:17,700
Like October.

733
00:21:16,366 --> 00:21:18,901
And it's like they said like

734
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,136
the kids say, like starting

735
00:21:19,001 --> 00:21:21,537
those first sunny days in

736
00:21:20,236 --> 00:21:22,505
April, they're all underneath

737
00:21:21,637 --> 00:21:23,172
the slide because that's the

738
00:21:22,605 --> 00:21:24,574
only shady.

739
00:21:23,272 --> 00:21:28,311
Spot, the playground.

740
00:21:24,674 --> 00:21:29,579
So it's it's I think, um, I

741
00:21:28,411 --> 00:21:31,147
think that'll be an interesting

742
00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:32,548
discussion. Like, do we want to

743
00:21:31,247 --> 00:21:33,850
cover playground equipment or

744
00:21:32,648 --> 00:21:35,485
just provide a space for kids

745
00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:36,786
to get out of the sun? Right. I

746
00:21:35,585 --> 00:21:39,789
think those are two good

747
00:21:36,886 --> 00:21:41,090
approaches. So it may be more

748
00:21:39,889 --> 00:21:42,592
cost effective to kind of do

749
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:44,360
that ladder where it's a place

750
00:21:42,692 --> 00:21:45,828
to get out of the sun. Um, but

751
00:21:44,493 --> 00:21:48,097
also there's an argument to

752
00:21:45,928 --> 00:21:49,832
protect the equipment from UV.

753
00:21:48,197 --> 00:21:51,134
rays and sun. damage to

754
00:21:49,932 --> 00:21:52,035
maximize the lifespan of that

755
00:21:51,234 --> 00:21:52,902
as well. So.

756
00:21:52,135 --> 00:21:53,936
I mean, I've definitely if

757
00:21:53,002 --> 00:21:55,538
there's some equipment that

758
00:21:54,036 --> 00:21:55,939
seems like it gets hotter than

759
00:21:55,638 --> 00:21:56,172
others.

760
00:21:56,039 --> 00:21:57,140
No.

761
00:21:56,272 --> 00:21:59,709
You're good. You know, maybe

762
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,144
focusing on that. Um, whereas

763
00:21:59,809 --> 00:22:03,312
like, like if the slide gets a

764
00:22:01,244 --> 00:22:04,847
little bit hotter compared to

765
00:22:03,412 --> 00:22:06,382
the, there's like a little like

766
00:22:04,947 --> 00:22:06,716
climbing structure, right. Then

767
00:22:06,482 --> 00:22:07,384
maybe.

768
00:22:06,816 --> 00:22:07,950
It's like.

769
00:22:07,484 --> 00:22:09,152
Yeah, we leave.

770
00:22:08,050 --> 00:22:09,819
The climbing to slide.

771
00:22:09,252 --> 00:22:10,453
It's hot in.

772
00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:11,754
The sun. Yeah.

773
00:22:10,553 --> 00:22:12,855
Yeah. So maybe that there's an

774
00:22:11,854 --> 00:22:16,159
opportunity there to kind of

775
00:22:12,955 --> 00:22:17,326
focus on the, the hotter items.

776
00:22:16,259 --> 00:22:19,062
Yeah. I think that that makes

777
00:22:17,426 --> 00:22:20,563
sense and stuff. Maybe the, the

778
00:22:19,162 --> 00:22:22,365
plastic things that do break

779
00:22:20,663 --> 00:22:23,266
down early like sooner and

780
00:22:22,465 --> 00:22:24,667
yeah. You know trying to

781
00:22:23,366 --> 00:22:27,403
maximize though that also is a

782
00:22:24,767 --> 00:22:29,472
CPA project a few years ago. So

783
00:22:27,503 --> 00:22:30,707
maximizing our investment in

784
00:22:29,572 --> 00:22:31,341
the playground equipment.

785
00:22:30,807 --> 00:22:33,743
I'm also trying.

786
00:22:31,441 --> 00:22:35,178
To picture I haven't been back

787
00:22:33,843 --> 00:22:37,013
there in a little bit, and I

788
00:22:35,278 --> 00:22:38,614
know it's mostly cement. Right.

789
00:22:37,113 --> 00:22:42,218
And I know that there are some

790
00:22:38,714 --> 00:22:44,087
trees lining the in between the

791
00:22:42,318 --> 00:22:45,488
field and the cement, but is

792
00:22:44,187 --> 00:22:47,657
there any other opportunities

793
00:22:45,588 --> 00:22:49,993
to plant natural shade?

794
00:22:47,757 --> 00:22:50,993
That's a good question. Um.

795
00:22:50,093 --> 00:22:51,861
I mean, we can't do it,

796
00:22:51,093 --> 00:22:52,761
obviously right in the middle

797
00:22:51,961 --> 00:22:54,330
of the park. Right, right.

798
00:22:52,861 --> 00:22:55,431
Because it's the same cement.

799
00:22:54,430 --> 00:22:57,433
They put down that like that

800
00:22:55,531 --> 00:22:59,402
spongy stuff. Um, yeah. Yeah.

801
00:22:57,533 --> 00:23:00,670
So that's the, the other, the

802
00:22:59,502 --> 00:23:02,371
thing we can look at too, and

803
00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:04,941
we can maybe talk to the town

804
00:23:02,471 --> 00:23:07,143
as they work on plans, the, um,

805
00:23:05,041 --> 00:23:08,911
the back section closer to the

806
00:23:07,243 --> 00:23:10,179
trees was the preschool play

807
00:23:09,011 --> 00:23:11,948
area. And the preschool is all

808
00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:13,082
just consolidated to Merrimack.

809
00:23:12,048 --> 00:23:15,184
So there's no preschool at

810
00:23:13,182 --> 00:23:17,687
Bagnell anymore. So that space

811
00:23:15,284 --> 00:23:19,522
may be possibly repurposed into

812
00:23:17,787 --> 00:23:19,956
shade structures or natural

813
00:23:19,622 --> 00:23:20,824
shade.

814
00:23:20,056 --> 00:23:22,492
Or more playgrounds.

815
00:23:20,924 --> 00:23:23,659
Or more playground. Yeah. They

816
00:23:22,592 --> 00:23:25,495
have lamented that there's only

817
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:26,896
four total swings and Reese's

818
00:23:25,595 --> 00:23:28,698
only 20 minutes, so the line

819
00:23:26,996 --> 00:23:30,933
doesn't get through. Yeah, so

820
00:23:28,798 --> 00:23:32,635
that could be I've sort of

821
00:23:31,033 --> 00:23:33,436
thought of that as a and I'm

822
00:23:32,735 --> 00:23:34,904
like, I don't think we want to

823
00:23:33,536 --> 00:23:36,672
muddy and try to make this too

824
00:23:35,004 --> 00:23:38,640
big a project. Right. Um, but

825
00:23:36,772 --> 00:23:39,876
that kind of a bolt on to like,

826
00:23:38,774 --> 00:23:40,810
additional playground equipment

827
00:23:39,976 --> 00:23:41,411
may be interesting at some

828
00:23:40,910 --> 00:23:43,412
point in the future.

829
00:23:41,511 --> 00:23:45,214
As well. And yeah, I mean, and

830
00:23:43,512 --> 00:23:46,816
remember, it's not this is the

831
00:23:45,314 --> 00:23:48,251
only time we'll ever have a

832
00:23:46,916 --> 00:23:50,586
chance to do things. I mean,

833
00:23:48,351 --> 00:23:51,787
you know, it's it's nice to see

834
00:23:50,686 --> 00:23:52,955
when you look back at some of

835
00:23:51,887 --> 00:23:54,290
the old minutes and some of the

836
00:23:53,055 --> 00:23:55,391
old videos, you'll see. And we

837
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:57,393
were just talking about this a

838
00:23:55,491 --> 00:23:58,694
bit is you'll see some of the

839
00:23:57,493 --> 00:24:00,196
things that were that were

840
00:23:58,794 --> 00:24:01,397
ideas back just a couple of

841
00:24:00,296 --> 00:24:04,033
years ago. They're now in

842
00:24:01,497 --> 00:24:07,537
place. And, you know, the, the,

843
00:24:04,133 --> 00:24:10,640
the process from idea to

844
00:24:07,637 --> 00:24:12,742
approved to funded to complete

845
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:14,210
it, you know, and so it's, it's

846
00:24:12,842 --> 00:24:16,078
great to have these sort of

847
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:18,147
brainstorm sessions about what,

848
00:24:16,178 --> 00:24:20,183
what might be good for, you

849
00:24:18,247 --> 00:24:22,451
know, fiscal year 2028. Yeah.

850
00:24:20,283 --> 00:24:24,353
And so, um, you know, bookmark

851
00:24:22,551 --> 00:24:25,321
it in your brain and, you know,

852
00:24:24,454 --> 00:24:27,056
work on the thing that you've

853
00:24:25,421 --> 00:24:28,591
got there and, and maybe, maybe

854
00:24:27,156 --> 00:24:30,026
you can expand scope, right, if

855
00:24:28,691 --> 00:24:32,028
it makes sense. And given

856
00:24:30,126 --> 00:24:33,629
what's going on, uh, one

857
00:24:32,128 --> 00:24:35,464
question I have that's not

858
00:24:33,729 --> 00:24:37,833
necessarily exactly relevant to

859
00:24:35,564 --> 00:24:39,902
it, but, uh, is, you know, in a

860
00:24:37,933 --> 00:24:42,371
tangent is did you have you

861
00:24:40,002 --> 00:24:45,541
seen the have you seen the, uh,

862
00:24:42,471 --> 00:24:46,509
the, the, um, the garden. How's

863
00:24:45,641 --> 00:24:47,743
the garden looking?

864
00:24:46,609 --> 00:24:49,779
I heard the garden looks really

865
00:24:47,843 --> 00:24:50,313
good. Yeah. Um, but I haven't

866
00:24:49,879 --> 00:24:51,881
personally seen.

867
00:24:50,413 --> 00:24:53,015
It yet. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah. I

868
00:24:51,981 --> 00:24:54,049
want to take a, you know, I

869
00:24:53,115 --> 00:24:55,718
need to take a peek over there

870
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:57,253
and check it out, but, um, but

871
00:24:55,818 --> 00:24:58,387
that was a project that, you

872
00:24:57,353 --> 00:25:00,256
know, you had this this land

873
00:24:58,487 --> 00:25:02,458
that was really fallow, and,

874
00:25:00,356 --> 00:25:03,659
um, you know, um, someone from

875
00:25:02,558 --> 00:25:04,994
town stepped up and said, hey,

876
00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:06,429
I want to, you know, kind of, I

877
00:25:05,094 --> 00:25:07,730
want to grab this. And then,

878
00:25:06,529 --> 00:25:09,832
you know, just two years later,

879
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:11,867
I know, I know that my daughter

880
00:25:09,932 --> 00:25:13,369
has had, you know, field trips

881
00:25:11,967 --> 00:25:13,803
to the garden and had a great

882
00:25:13,469 --> 00:25:15,271
time. You know.

883
00:25:13,903 --> 00:25:17,273
He's been really planted things

884
00:25:15,371 --> 00:25:19,308
and had, like, tastings. Yeah,

885
00:25:17,373 --> 00:25:21,310
it was fun. So looking this up,

886
00:25:19,408 --> 00:25:22,812
I was on like the, the my map,

887
00:25:21,410 --> 00:25:23,913
the Groveland like the mapping.

888
00:25:22,912 --> 00:25:26,749
And they do have they have

889
00:25:24,013 --> 00:25:28,184
historical overhead stuff. And

890
00:25:26,849 --> 00:25:29,552
so I like I was curious because

891
00:25:28,284 --> 00:25:30,987
I had the old playground from

892
00:25:29,652 --> 00:25:32,488
before, but you could see when

893
00:25:31,087 --> 00:25:33,756
they had the garden before and

894
00:25:32,588 --> 00:25:35,358
then it went fallow and then

895
00:25:33,856 --> 00:25:36,559
came back with the, with the

896
00:25:35,458 --> 00:25:37,760
overhead. It was kind of neat

897
00:25:36,659 --> 00:25:39,262
to see. It's like, oh, they

898
00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:40,496
built the new playground. But

899
00:25:39,362 --> 00:25:41,530
then the garden wasn't good.

900
00:25:40,596 --> 00:25:42,932
But then the garden came back.

901
00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:44,133
So it was neat to see over. I

902
00:25:43,032 --> 00:25:46,135
think it was nine years worth

903
00:25:44,233 --> 00:25:48,170
of overhead, uh, photography

904
00:25:46,235 --> 00:25:49,939
that to see the, the garden

905
00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:51,608
coming back. And yeah, I know

906
00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:53,075
my kids really enjoy that too.

907
00:25:51,708 --> 00:25:56,078
And I don't think that the

908
00:25:53,175 --> 00:25:58,080
garden as a, as an activity is

909
00:25:56,178 --> 00:25:59,615
dead as far as like complete. I

910
00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:01,050
think there's I think there's

911
00:25:59,715 --> 00:26:02,251
definitely some room that they

912
00:26:01,150 --> 00:26:03,919
can expand on it. And it's been

913
00:26:02,351 --> 00:26:05,254
such a positive thing. So

914
00:26:04,019 --> 00:26:06,222
that's, you know, thinking

915
00:26:05,354 --> 00:26:07,490
about potential future

916
00:26:06,322 --> 00:26:07,857
projects. That's something that

917
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:08,791
I definitely.

918
00:26:07,957 --> 00:26:11,227
Want to do. They don't want

919
00:26:08,891 --> 00:26:12,395
shade in the garden. It's good.

920
00:26:11,327 --> 00:26:13,563
Except for the plants that want

921
00:26:12,495 --> 00:26:14,597
shade. Right. You know, so.

922
00:26:13,663 --> 00:26:14,997
I mean, yeah.

923
00:26:14,697 --> 00:26:16,432
Talk to the.

924
00:26:15,097 --> 00:26:18,034
Garden planter under the new

925
00:26:16,532 --> 00:26:19,735
shade structure for, uh, you

926
00:26:18,134 --> 00:26:22,138
know, some lettuces that don't

927
00:26:19,835 --> 00:26:24,840
get scorched.

928
00:26:22,238 --> 00:26:26,742
Um, so Kate's with us now.

929
00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:29,979
Fantastic. So that's awesome.

930
00:26:26,842 --> 00:26:30,747
Um, and it is. It's good

931
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:31,580
because there was something I

932
00:26:30,847 --> 00:26:32,581
wanted to talk to you about

933
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,750
coming up that we haven't

934
00:26:32,681 --> 00:26:36,719
reached yet. Okay. Um, but any

935
00:26:34,850 --> 00:26:38,120
other questions about the

936
00:26:36,819 --> 00:26:39,755
future CPC projects that we're

937
00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:41,624
talking about right now?

938
00:26:39,855 --> 00:26:43,626
Nope.

939
00:26:41,724 --> 00:26:45,828
All right. Open space and

940
00:26:43,726 --> 00:26:47,530
recreation. Uh, we still are.

941
00:26:45,928 --> 00:26:49,332
We? You know, we're still not

942
00:26:47,630 --> 00:26:50,833
locked in on what's CP funds

943
00:26:49,432 --> 00:26:54,070
and what's not as far as the as

944
00:26:50,933 --> 00:26:56,606
far as that, um, and we're not

945
00:26:54,170 --> 00:27:00,242
really ripe for a work for a

946
00:26:56,706 --> 00:27:01,243
trail work day for purposes of,

947
00:27:00,342 --> 00:27:02,445
uh, moving forward, the

948
00:27:01,343 --> 00:27:04,613
enhancement, the trail

949
00:27:02,545 --> 00:27:06,816
enhancement project. However, I

950
00:27:04,713 --> 00:27:08,851
do think I do think, um, you

951
00:27:06,916 --> 00:27:11,287
know, Mike and I were out on I

952
00:27:08,951 --> 00:27:13,823
think it was Meadow Pond, uh,

953
00:27:11,387 --> 00:27:14,890
doing some work, and, uh, there

954
00:27:13,923 --> 00:27:15,891
was there were some spots that

955
00:27:14,990 --> 00:27:17,259
really could use some help. So

956
00:27:15,991 --> 00:27:19,228
I think, uh, there were a

957
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,629
couple of fields, a couple of

958
00:27:19,328 --> 00:27:22,231
the trails that, you know,

959
00:27:20,729 --> 00:27:23,466
could really use some tender

960
00:27:22,331 --> 00:27:26,001
loving care, just as in a

961
00:27:23,566 --> 00:27:27,203
cleanup way. So I will check

962
00:27:26,101 --> 00:27:28,771
into those before the next

963
00:27:27,303 --> 00:27:31,207
meeting. Particularly, I'm

964
00:27:28,871 --> 00:27:33,810
thinking about Meadow Pond and

965
00:27:31,307 --> 00:27:35,678
Town Forest.

966
00:27:33,910 --> 00:27:37,646
Like branches. Yeah.

967
00:27:35,778 --> 00:27:39,949
Like trees, like trees fallen,

968
00:27:37,746 --> 00:27:41,383
you know, like, uh, paths. Not

969
00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:42,952
not entirely clear. Things like

970
00:27:41,483 --> 00:27:45,054
that. Ultimately, when we get

971
00:27:43,052 --> 00:27:46,255
when we have mapping and new

972
00:27:45,154 --> 00:27:47,823
signposts and all that stuff,

973
00:27:46,355 --> 00:27:49,091
it'll be clearer even when

974
00:27:47,923 --> 00:27:50,692
there's brush and even when

975
00:27:49,191 --> 00:27:52,928
there's, you know, when there's

976
00:27:50,793 --> 00:27:54,463
some overgrowth. But, um,

977
00:27:53,028 --> 00:27:55,331
especially now where we're kind

978
00:27:54,563 --> 00:27:57,833
of in the, you know, in the

979
00:27:55,431 --> 00:27:59,268
middle a little bit, um, it's

980
00:27:57,933 --> 00:28:00,369
sometimes it can use a little.

981
00:27:59,368 --> 00:28:01,937
We can, you can use some tender

982
00:28:00,469 --> 00:28:02,905
loving care and some chainsaws.

983
00:28:02,037 --> 00:28:03,973
Yeah.

984
00:28:03,005 --> 00:28:05,608
I don't have a tiny battery

985
00:28:04,073 --> 00:28:06,709
when it's like this big that

986
00:28:05,708 --> 00:28:09,011
bring camping with us.

987
00:28:06,809 --> 00:28:10,112
Yeah. Exactly. So. And and

988
00:28:09,111 --> 00:28:11,313
we'll get Amelia. We'll get

989
00:28:10,212 --> 00:28:14,450
Amelia to come back and bring

990
00:28:11,413 --> 00:28:17,286
us heavy equipment. But, uh.

991
00:28:14,550 --> 00:28:18,888
But that's TBD. Uh, I'll talk

992
00:28:17,386 --> 00:28:20,690
to Mike. About what? What might

993
00:28:18,988 --> 00:28:22,057
work, and then we'll see if we

994
00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:23,659
can get something in something.

995
00:28:22,157 --> 00:28:24,827
Either either this year or

996
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,495
first year. First thing when

997
00:28:24,927 --> 00:28:29,331
the when it's nice after

998
00:28:26,595 --> 00:28:30,633
winter. Uh, field use fees. I

999
00:28:29,431 --> 00:28:32,334
think this is an ongoing

1000
00:28:30,733 --> 00:28:33,736
discussion. Uh, the select

1001
00:28:32,434 --> 00:28:35,337
boards put thrown their hat

1002
00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:38,207
into that as well. And so I

1003
00:28:35,437 --> 00:28:40,009
think there are um, there are

1004
00:28:38,307 --> 00:28:41,544
some discussions. So it may be

1005
00:28:40,109 --> 00:28:43,946
it may be useful at some point

1006
00:28:41,644 --> 00:28:44,914
for us to, um, either have

1007
00:28:44,046 --> 00:28:46,449
someone from the Selectboard

1008
00:28:45,014 --> 00:28:47,884
come and talk with us here or

1009
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:49,151
have someone from here go to

1010
00:28:47,984 --> 00:28:50,252
the Selectboard and sit in a

1011
00:28:49,251 --> 00:28:51,387
meeting to talk about it. But

1012
00:28:50,352 --> 00:28:53,722
it's definitely something that

1013
00:28:51,487 --> 00:28:55,691
is, um, being bandied about as

1014
00:28:53,822 --> 00:28:57,693
far as you know. I mean, these

1015
00:28:55,791 --> 00:29:00,629
fields are getting nicer. Um,

1016
00:28:57,793 --> 00:29:01,931
if if we're using 20 years ago,

1017
00:29:00,729 --> 00:29:03,198
you know, pricing, then, you

1018
00:29:02,031 --> 00:29:05,067
know, we're due for an update.

1019
00:29:03,298 --> 00:29:06,735
And, you know, to the extent

1020
00:29:05,167 --> 00:29:07,570
that we, you know, rent out

1021
00:29:06,835 --> 00:29:08,771
this stuff, we should be

1022
00:29:07,670 --> 00:29:11,474
getting fair value for it and

1023
00:29:08,871 --> 00:29:13,042
all that. And, um, certainly

1024
00:29:11,574 --> 00:29:14,043
make sure that we're, um,

1025
00:29:13,142 --> 00:29:17,379
competitive with everybody

1026
00:29:14,143 --> 00:29:18,781
around. Also, um, anything on

1027
00:29:17,479 --> 00:29:20,182
Open Space and Rec?

1028
00:29:18,881 --> 00:29:22,218
No.

1029
00:29:20,282 --> 00:29:23,819
Uh.

1030
00:29:22,318 --> 00:29:25,387
The question of like, which

1031
00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:27,723
parcels were purchased with CPC

1032
00:29:25,487 --> 00:29:29,391
funds, where do we know where

1033
00:29:27,823 --> 00:29:29,859
that information is? Where does

1034
00:29:29,491 --> 00:29:33,296
it live?

1035
00:29:29,959 --> 00:29:33,696
Um, that's a good question. Um.

1036
00:29:33,396 --> 00:29:35,764
Well.

1037
00:29:33,796 --> 00:29:37,232
I will be meeting with the CPC

1038
00:29:35,864 --> 00:29:38,667
very soon. Okay. And at the

1039
00:29:37,332 --> 00:29:39,468
meeting where it seems like

1040
00:29:38,767 --> 00:29:40,603
most of the recreation

1041
00:29:39,568 --> 00:29:42,171
committee is going to be there,

1042
00:29:40,703 --> 00:29:44,874
I can ask that question. So I

1043
00:29:42,271 --> 00:29:47,210
will ask, uh, Adam Haywood, who

1044
00:29:44,974 --> 00:29:48,544
is the chair of that committee.

1045
00:29:47,310 --> 00:29:50,713
When is, uh.

1046
00:29:48,644 --> 00:29:51,214
That meeting is.

1047
00:29:50,813 --> 00:29:54,149
The 24th.

1048
00:29:51,314 --> 00:29:54,750
The 21st at 6:30 p.m.. Okay,

1049
00:29:54,249 --> 00:29:56,385
definitive.

1050
00:29:54,850 --> 00:29:57,153
We've already looked at it.

1051
00:29:56,485 --> 00:29:58,587
Okay.

1052
00:29:57,253 --> 00:29:59,622
It's only definitively because

1053
00:29:58,687 --> 00:30:00,689
I didn't I didn't have it

1054
00:29:59,722 --> 00:30:02,858
immediately in front of me as

1055
00:30:00,789 --> 00:30:04,326
well. So you've got to see you.

1056
00:30:02,958 --> 00:30:05,661
You've got to you're spared

1057
00:30:04,426 --> 00:30:08,130
from watching me, uh, fumble

1058
00:30:05,761 --> 00:30:10,299
around.

1059
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:12,101
Over here.

1060
00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:12,702
Do you want to hear. Oh,

1061
00:30:12,201 --> 00:30:13,669
actually.

1062
00:30:12,802 --> 00:30:14,103
Thank you.

1063
00:30:13,769 --> 00:30:14,437
I just got.

1064
00:30:14,203 --> 00:30:17,540
It back.

1065
00:30:14,537 --> 00:30:19,742
So. September, what, 20?

1066
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,610
We've. So. Monday, 21 to

1067
00:30:19,842 --> 00:30:25,748
Monday, coming up.

1068
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:29,318
At 630. So it's the equinox.

1069
00:30:25,848 --> 00:30:33,389
For. Oh, nice.

1070
00:30:29,418 --> 00:30:37,460
Um, so we will address that at

1071
00:30:33,489 --> 00:30:38,561
the meeting.

1072
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:44,934
And that's here as well.

1073
00:30:38,661 --> 00:30:46,202
Right. It is. Um. So the next

1074
00:30:45,034 --> 00:30:47,336
topic I wanted to put on, and I

1075
00:30:46,302 --> 00:30:49,939
want to keep it as a running

1076
00:30:47,436 --> 00:30:51,106
topic for us because I think I

1077
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:53,642
think actually, Kate, I'm so

1078
00:30:51,206 --> 00:30:55,444
glad you're here. Um, like,

1079
00:30:53,742 --> 00:30:56,579
pointed out, a website, you

1080
00:30:55,544 --> 00:30:58,147
know, has all kinds of

1081
00:30:56,679 --> 00:30:59,181
inconsistencies and problems.

1082
00:30:58,247 --> 00:31:00,015
It just doesn't match with

1083
00:30:59,281 --> 00:31:01,984
that. And this doesn't, you

1084
00:31:00,115 --> 00:31:03,385
know, so what I would like to

1085
00:31:02,084 --> 00:31:05,588
do and I mean, you know, you

1086
00:31:03,485 --> 00:31:07,523
can say no as much as you want,

1087
00:31:05,688 --> 00:31:09,925
like I like to kind of put you

1088
00:31:07,623 --> 00:31:11,293
in charge of, at least for the

1089
00:31:10,025 --> 00:31:13,128
recreation committee. Okay.

1090
00:31:11,393 --> 00:31:14,930
Like trying is trying to see

1091
00:31:13,228 --> 00:31:16,732
how we can get the data to be

1092
00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:18,867
accurate and current and

1093
00:31:16,832 --> 00:31:21,270
updated. Okay. And, you know,

1094
00:31:18,967 --> 00:31:22,671
just make sure that, um, you

1095
00:31:21,370 --> 00:31:24,006
know, to the, to the best of

1096
00:31:22,771 --> 00:31:25,541
our ability where things are

1097
00:31:24,106 --> 00:31:26,041
linking that there's the right

1098
00:31:25,641 --> 00:31:27,143
stuff..

1099
00:31:26,141 --> 00:31:28,510
The links are there.

1100
00:31:27,243 --> 00:31:29,945
Yeah, yeah. And you know

1101
00:31:28,610 --> 00:31:31,180
because so for example, I was

1102
00:31:30,045 --> 00:31:32,548
looking today for pumpkin

1103
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,649
pumpkin fest and I've found

1104
00:31:32,648 --> 00:31:36,385
information for like I think

1105
00:31:33,749 --> 00:31:37,820
2024 and you know. Yeah, but

1106
00:31:36,485 --> 00:31:40,189
there wasn't anything about,

1107
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,724
you know, this year. And so all

1108
00:31:40,289 --> 00:31:43,859
well and good. Fine. But you

1109
00:31:41,824 --> 00:31:45,461
know like as we try to sort of

1110
00:31:43,959 --> 00:31:47,062
clean things up, you know, for

1111
00:31:45,561 --> 00:31:48,897
our spot and our little piece

1112
00:31:47,162 --> 00:31:50,432
in the world that that too will

1113
00:31:48,997 --> 00:31:52,101
help, you know, on the sort of

1114
00:31:50,532 --> 00:31:53,168
broader, you know, Groveland

1115
00:31:52,201 --> 00:31:54,937
website and, you know, things

1116
00:31:53,268 --> 00:31:56,271
like that. We always talk

1117
00:31:55,037 --> 00:31:56,871
about, you know, it's really

1118
00:31:56,371 --> 00:31:58,073
important to get the

1119
00:31:56,972 --> 00:31:59,141
information out to the people.

1120
00:31:58,173 --> 00:32:00,409
And if our information out to

1121
00:31:59,241 --> 00:32:01,210
people is all muddled, then

1122
00:32:00,509 --> 00:32:02,378
they're like, well, I'm not

1123
00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:04,613
going to look at that because I

1124
00:32:02,478 --> 00:32:05,748
it's it's not useful to me. So,

1125
00:32:04,713 --> 00:32:08,484
um, that's something that I

1126
00:32:05,848 --> 00:32:09,952
want to keep is kind of, um,

1127
00:32:08,584 --> 00:32:11,086
you know, evergreen topic just

1128
00:32:10,052 --> 00:32:12,654
to sort of make sure that we

1129
00:32:11,186 --> 00:32:14,823
move the ball, at least in some

1130
00:32:12,754 --> 00:32:15,091
way, on some of the stuff. Um,

1131
00:32:14,923 --> 00:32:18,027
yeah.

1132
00:32:15,191 --> 00:32:19,128
I'm happy to, um, to, to kind

1133
00:32:18,127 --> 00:32:19,895
of be the point person for

1134
00:32:19,228 --> 00:32:20,396
that. Um.

1135
00:32:19,995 --> 00:32:21,330
I knew you.

1136
00:32:20,496 --> 00:32:22,131
Would.

1137
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:25,534
That's awesome.

1138
00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:27,236
Um, does the like, who's in

1139
00:32:25,634 --> 00:32:29,371
charge of the town website?

1140
00:32:27,336 --> 00:32:30,973
So I'm not sure, but I think

1141
00:32:29,471 --> 00:32:32,141
the, the conduit, the first

1142
00:32:31,073 --> 00:32:33,576
conduit for information would

1143
00:32:32,241 --> 00:32:35,244
be Annie Schindler would be the

1144
00:32:33,676 --> 00:32:39,782
person to reach out to, I

1145
00:32:35,344 --> 00:32:41,216
think. And, uh, and so, um, she

1146
00:32:39,882 --> 00:32:42,618
probably will have the sort of

1147
00:32:41,316 --> 00:32:43,819
keys of the kingdom on who, who

1148
00:32:42,718 --> 00:32:45,888
does what and how things kind

1149
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:47,790
of go. And then, then we can

1150
00:32:45,988 --> 00:32:49,091
start to talk about, okay, what

1151
00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:51,227
needs to be changed, what can

1152
00:32:49,191 --> 00:32:52,861
be changed easily. You know.

1153
00:32:51,327 --> 00:32:54,363
What's more complicated, right.

1154
00:32:52,961 --> 00:32:56,265
And I know last time you guys

1155
00:32:54,463 --> 00:32:57,700
had talked about that, there is

1156
00:32:56,365 --> 00:32:59,301
somebody who was working on

1157
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,202
updating the maps.

1158
00:32:59,401 --> 00:33:03,172
Yeah, we talked about that

1159
00:33:00,302 --> 00:33:04,473
today a bit too. And so he's a

1160
00:33:03,272 --> 00:33:05,607
fellow from West Newbury. I

1161
00:33:04,573 --> 00:33:07,710
don't have his name as I sit

1162
00:33:05,707 --> 00:33:09,745
here in the second. Uh, but

1163
00:33:07,810 --> 00:33:12,347
Mike Dempsey and I are working

1164
00:33:09,845 --> 00:33:13,949
on the trail enhancements. So,

1165
00:33:12,447 --> 00:33:15,050
uh, Mike, Mike would have his

1166
00:33:14,049 --> 00:33:17,786
contact information and

1167
00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:19,688
whatnot. And so part and parcel

1168
00:33:17,886 --> 00:33:21,590
of that is we are providing

1169
00:33:19,788 --> 00:33:23,192
that fellow the information,

1170
00:33:21,690 --> 00:33:26,261
the data that he needs to do

1171
00:33:23,292 --> 00:33:28,097
the maps anyway. So, um, so

1172
00:33:26,361 --> 00:33:29,565
this is timely in the sense of

1173
00:33:28,197 --> 00:33:31,500
talking to him about, you know,

1174
00:33:29,665 --> 00:33:32,434
how we get it done and making

1175
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,936
sure, making sure that we can

1176
00:33:32,534 --> 00:33:35,571
get a QR code so people can use

1177
00:33:34,036 --> 00:33:38,173
a phone and see a map and, you

1178
00:33:35,671 --> 00:33:39,141
know, and that the, the, uh,

1179
00:33:38,273 --> 00:33:40,642
the trail signs are geo

1180
00:33:39,241 --> 00:33:41,944
located. And so you, you know,

1181
00:33:40,742 --> 00:33:43,345
where you are when you are and.

1182
00:33:42,044 --> 00:33:45,547
All that kind of stuff.

1183
00:33:43,445 --> 00:33:48,183
Um, so the, the maps that he's

1184
00:33:45,647 --> 00:33:50,018
making, are they like surveyor

1185
00:33:48,283 --> 00:33:52,021
type maps or are they like

1186
00:33:50,118 --> 00:33:53,689
public use kind of trails?

1187
00:33:52,121 --> 00:33:55,390
The idea is so that they will

1188
00:33:53,789 --> 00:33:56,992
be public use trail maps. Okay.

1189
00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:59,027
So that, you know, that'll be

1190
00:33:57,092 --> 00:33:59,928
what's, um, the QR code that

1191
00:33:59,127 --> 00:34:01,130
you'll see when you go to the

1192
00:34:00,028 --> 00:34:03,832
kiosk, which for each

1193
00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:04,867
particular trail. So the idea

1194
00:34:03,932 --> 00:34:07,136
is eventually at every

1195
00:34:04,967 --> 00:34:08,403
trailhead you'll see, you know,

1196
00:34:07,236 --> 00:34:10,305
okay, this is the such and such

1197
00:34:08,503 --> 00:34:12,541
trail. Here's the QR code for

1198
00:34:10,405 --> 00:34:14,376
the for the map. Here's a QR

1199
00:34:12,641 --> 00:34:15,911
code to donate to the trails

1200
00:34:14,476 --> 00:34:16,979
project. You know, whatever,

1201
00:34:16,011 --> 00:34:18,947
right? You know, instead of a

1202
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:21,350
little lockbox, right. Live in

1203
00:34:19,047 --> 00:34:24,353
the future. It's fantastic. Um,

1204
00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:26,155
and then, you know, so so that

1205
00:34:24,453 --> 00:34:27,790
information can all be, oh,

1206
00:34:26,255 --> 00:34:28,424
okay, I'm starting here and now

1207
00:34:27,890 --> 00:34:29,091
I can see all this.

1208
00:34:28,524 --> 00:34:30,626
Stuff, so.

1209
00:34:29,191 --> 00:34:31,427
Gotcha. That's the idea.

1210
00:34:30,726 --> 00:34:33,695
Okay.

1211
00:34:31,527 --> 00:34:36,131
Um, but yeah. And any way that

1212
00:34:33,795 --> 00:34:37,232
I can be helpful, I'm sure, uh,

1213
00:34:36,231 --> 00:34:38,901
I'm sure everyone on the board

1214
00:34:37,332 --> 00:34:40,936
feels the same way, you know?

1215
00:34:39,001 --> 00:34:42,504
Please. You know, let us know.

1216
00:34:41,036 --> 00:34:43,505
And, you know, we'll all kind

1217
00:34:42,604 --> 00:34:44,906
of work together to try to

1218
00:34:43,605 --> 00:34:45,908
identify where there is, where

1219
00:34:45,006 --> 00:34:46,708
they're kind of blind spots.

1220
00:34:46,008 --> 00:34:48,644
And there are things that we

1221
00:34:46,808 --> 00:34:50,579
can we can improve upon and,

1222
00:34:48,744 --> 00:34:52,381
you know, and then to make sure

1223
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,749
that the data that we add in is

1224
00:34:52,481 --> 00:34:56,385
good data. Okay.

1225
00:34:53,849 --> 00:34:57,686
Yeah, I will do that and have

1226
00:34:56,485 --> 00:34:58,587
something to report back next

1227
00:34:57,786 --> 00:35:00,255
month.

1228
00:34:58,687 --> 00:35:02,224
Um, additionally, I talked to

1229
00:35:00,355 --> 00:35:03,826
Mike and we we kind of agreed

1230
00:35:02,324 --> 00:35:05,661
that we think that the maps or

1231
00:35:03,926 --> 00:35:07,262
at least some subset of them,

1232
00:35:05,761 --> 00:35:10,165
they're going to be six, right?

1233
00:35:07,362 --> 00:35:12,234
Should be done by, uh, Pumpkin

1234
00:35:10,265 --> 00:35:13,769
Fest. And so we should be able

1235
00:35:12,334 --> 00:35:15,003
to distribute something or

1236
00:35:13,869 --> 00:35:17,072
provide information or have

1237
00:35:15,103 --> 00:35:19,541
some sort of a blast, uh, on or

1238
00:35:17,172 --> 00:35:20,308
before then, okay, to say, hey,

1239
00:35:19,641 --> 00:35:21,176
look, you know, we've been

1240
00:35:20,408 --> 00:35:23,378
doing some work, and this is

1241
00:35:21,276 --> 00:35:25,647
what we've been up to. And so,

1242
00:35:23,478 --> 00:35:26,748
um, that's that's the goal as

1243
00:35:25,747 --> 00:35:29,484
we sit here today..

1244
00:35:26,848 --> 00:35:29,819
And, um, that was what October

1245
00:35:29,584 --> 00:35:30,753
like.

1246
00:35:29,919 --> 00:35:34,190
October 22nd.

1247
00:35:30,853 --> 00:35:36,192
22nd, 22nd.

1248
00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:39,628
2nd June. Right.

1249
00:35:36,292 --> 00:35:42,497
Okay.

1250
00:35:39,728 --> 00:35:43,432
Okay. Um, anybody have anything

1251
00:35:42,597 --> 00:35:45,300
about website marketing

1252
00:35:43,532 --> 00:35:48,137
outreach?

1253
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,405
Nope.

1254
00:35:48,237 --> 00:35:51,540
Okay. Very good. On to Roland

1255
00:35:50,505 --> 00:35:54,576
de Groveland. Day is coming

1256
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,044
right up. It is the, uh, the

1257
00:35:54,676 --> 00:35:58,113
11th and 12th. I'm looking at

1258
00:35:56,144 --> 00:35:58,747
the map or the calendar.

1259
00:35:58,213 --> 00:36:00,015
Yeah.

1260
00:35:58,847 --> 00:36:02,351
The calendar map is next

1261
00:36:00,115 --> 00:36:03,552
weekend. Not this weekend. So

1262
00:36:02,451 --> 00:36:05,254
the 11th and the 12th, Friday

1263
00:36:03,652 --> 00:36:07,289
and Saturday are, uh, when it

1264
00:36:05,354 --> 00:36:09,091
is, uh, I have not been able to

1265
00:36:07,389 --> 00:36:11,393
confirm that we can secure a

1266
00:36:09,191 --> 00:36:13,729
booth, but if I do, I will

1267
00:36:11,493 --> 00:36:15,463
blast you. And I will say I

1268
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:16,865
will run it at this times. And,

1269
00:36:15,563 --> 00:36:18,166
you know, we'll see who who can

1270
00:36:16,965 --> 00:36:19,234
man it, you know, for whenever

1271
00:36:18,266 --> 00:36:21,470
we're, we're doing it. But

1272
00:36:19,334 --> 00:36:22,271
basically, um, if we're, if

1273
00:36:21,570 --> 00:36:24,973
we're allowed, if we're

1274
00:36:22,371 --> 00:36:27,409
permitted to do it, um, then,

1275
00:36:25,073 --> 00:36:29,177
you know, uh, Michelle and I

1276
00:36:27,509 --> 00:36:30,846
did, you know, did one before

1277
00:36:29,277 --> 00:36:33,015
and we, you know, we got some

1278
00:36:30,946 --> 00:36:34,416
like, uh, some cornhole boards

1279
00:36:33,115 --> 00:36:36,852
and, you know, hung out and

1280
00:36:34,516 --> 00:36:38,086
passed out maps and, you know,

1281
00:36:36,952 --> 00:36:38,887
uh, there were folks that said,

1282
00:36:38,186 --> 00:36:40,489
oh, I didn't know that there

1283
00:36:38,987 --> 00:36:41,857
was a trail over there or, you

1284
00:36:40,589 --> 00:36:42,958
know, wanted to talk about

1285
00:36:41,957 --> 00:36:44,326
things that they're interested

1286
00:36:43,058 --> 00:36:46,328
in in town. And so it's a good

1287
00:36:44,426 --> 00:36:47,996
way to just sort of, you know,

1288
00:36:46,428 --> 00:36:49,398
shoot the breeze with folks to

1289
00:36:48,096 --> 00:36:51,199
see. So if we're able to do

1290
00:36:49,498 --> 00:36:52,401
that, we will do that. If not,

1291
00:36:51,299 --> 00:36:53,735
I think the plan will be to

1292
00:36:52,501 --> 00:36:55,404
have some sort of presence in

1293
00:36:53,835 --> 00:36:56,805
some way at Pumpkin Fest, you

1294
00:36:55,504 --> 00:36:58,140
know, so we we kind of do get

1295
00:36:56,905 --> 00:36:59,975
two bites at the apple in this

1296
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,543
sense. And, uh, to maybe hear

1297
00:37:00,075 --> 00:37:02,044
what folks are thinking.

1298
00:37:01,643 --> 00:37:03,845
Yep.

1299
00:37:02,144 --> 00:37:05,881
Okay. I think, uh, the select

1300
00:37:03,945 --> 00:37:07,049
board's doing some suggestion

1301
00:37:05,981 --> 00:37:08,116
box type things. And I remember

1302
00:37:07,149 --> 00:37:10,018
Michelle talking about doing a

1303
00:37:08,216 --> 00:37:11,219
suggestion box on the website.

1304
00:37:10,118 --> 00:37:13,055
But I don't know, even if we

1305
00:37:11,319 --> 00:37:14,823
aren't organized enough to do

1306
00:37:13,155 --> 00:37:16,625
that, if this if the select

1307
00:37:14,923 --> 00:37:17,593
board folks wouldn't mind a

1308
00:37:16,725 --> 00:37:18,694
recreation.

1309
00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:19,628
Like an addendum.

1310
00:37:18,794 --> 00:37:20,562
Yeah. Well, because they were

1311
00:37:19,728 --> 00:37:22,197
just going to have like cars,

1312
00:37:20,662 --> 00:37:23,532
you could put it in the, the

1313
00:37:22,297 --> 00:37:25,133
like into the box for the

1314
00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:26,134
different. It was essentially

1315
00:37:25,233 --> 00:37:27,770
like the idea that we don't

1316
00:37:26,234 --> 00:37:30,572
want a long survey just like a

1317
00:37:27,903 --> 00:37:32,341
hey, I'd like X, I want more

1318
00:37:30,672 --> 00:37:33,608
walking trails. And they put it

1319
00:37:32,441 --> 00:37:36,044
like if, if that could be one

1320
00:37:33,708 --> 00:37:37,279
of the topics that and even if

1321
00:37:36,144 --> 00:37:38,414
they would allow us to join

1322
00:37:37,379 --> 00:37:40,082
like the town booth or

1323
00:37:38,514 --> 00:37:41,016
something too, if we, we don't

1324
00:37:40,182 --> 00:37:42,684
have enough for our own booths.

1325
00:37:41,116 --> 00:37:45,087
Right. We could kind of be a

1326
00:37:42,817 --> 00:37:47,289
presence there. And that could

1327
00:37:45,187 --> 00:37:48,290
be an option to just like, I

1328
00:37:47,389 --> 00:37:50,325
like that idea of suggestion

1329
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:51,860
because like a full survey is a

1330
00:37:50,458 --> 00:37:53,228
big commitment trying to chase

1331
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,964
people down. But hey, do you

1332
00:37:53,362 --> 00:37:56,498
have an idea? Well, or just

1333
00:37:56,097 --> 00:37:57,833
scribbled down?

1334
00:37:56,598 --> 00:37:59,668
And it wasn't long ago that we

1335
00:37:57,933 --> 00:38:00,869
did do one of those. So I mean,

1336
00:37:59,768 --> 00:38:02,337
again, you know, you don't want

1337
00:38:00,969 --> 00:38:03,472
to you don't want to obliterate

1338
00:38:02,437 --> 00:38:05,674
people's interest, you know,

1339
00:38:03,572 --> 00:38:06,575
interest by, you know, blasting

1340
00:38:05,774 --> 00:38:07,409
them with what do you think

1341
00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:08,977
about this? And what do you

1342
00:38:07,509 --> 00:38:11,346
think about that? You know, too

1343
00:38:09,077 --> 00:38:12,814
much. Um, periodically it's

1344
00:38:11,446 --> 00:38:14,182
good. And certainly if there's

1345
00:38:12,914 --> 00:38:16,251
already kind of a presence from

1346
00:38:14,282 --> 00:38:17,953
the select board, you know, um,

1347
00:38:16,351 --> 00:38:19,388
sort of doubling up on that,

1348
00:38:18,053 --> 00:38:20,989
you know, might not be super

1349
00:38:19,488 --> 00:38:22,991
helpful, but but certainly, you

1350
00:38:21,089 --> 00:38:24,292
know, to the extent that the

1351
00:38:23,091 --> 00:38:26,028
kinds of suggestions that they

1352
00:38:24,392 --> 00:38:27,696
got, they get will affect

1353
00:38:26,128 --> 00:38:29,364
recreation, it's like it's

1354
00:38:27,796 --> 00:38:30,699
absolutely information that we

1355
00:38:29,464 --> 00:38:38,340
should share and collaborate

1356
00:38:30,799 --> 00:38:41,843
on. Yeah. Um, other thoughts.

1357
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,545
Do, uh, well, do we have the

1358
00:38:41,943 --> 00:38:44,613
any of the suggestions written

1359
00:38:43,645 --> 00:38:46,315
down anywhere from the last

1360
00:38:44,713 --> 00:38:47,116
time we did this?

1361
00:38:46,415 --> 00:38:50,552
Um.

1362
00:38:47,216 --> 00:38:51,987
The survey? Sure. Um, yeah. So

1363
00:38:50,652 --> 00:38:54,656
that was back in. I want to see

1364
00:38:52,087 --> 00:38:57,059
2024. We did. It was like an

1365
00:38:54,756 --> 00:39:00,295
anonymous survey monkey survey.

1366
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:02,697
Um, and we got very minimal

1367
00:39:00,395 --> 00:39:05,233
responses. Sure. Um, I think

1368
00:39:02,797 --> 00:39:07,769
the overall theme was make

1369
00:39:05,333 --> 00:39:10,539
trails more visible. Um, um,

1370
00:39:07,869 --> 00:39:12,107
from the again, very limited,

1371
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:14,576
like I think we got, I think we

1372
00:39:12,207 --> 00:39:15,077
got two. Yeah. To fill out the

1373
00:39:14,676 --> 00:39:17,212
survey.

1374
00:39:15,177 --> 00:39:18,580
So Upon this committee.

1375
00:39:17,312 --> 00:39:19,815
You know, one of them may have

1376
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,016
already been on the committee

1377
00:39:19,915 --> 00:39:21,950
as well. And then the other one

1378
00:39:21,116 --> 00:39:22,918
probably puts a test.

1379
00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:25,187
Notice.

1380
00:39:23,018 --> 00:39:26,988
Um, yeah. So very, very minimal

1381
00:39:25,287 --> 00:39:28,590
responses. But again, overall

1382
00:39:27,088 --> 00:39:29,858
theme was just I didn't know

1383
00:39:28,690 --> 00:39:32,127
that we had trails. It would be

1384
00:39:29,958 --> 00:39:33,295
nice to. Yeah. Have it be more

1385
00:39:32,227 --> 00:39:35,130
known. Yeah.

1386
00:39:33,395 --> 00:39:36,231
Right. And that is, that is,

1387
00:39:35,230 --> 00:39:37,232
you know, dead center on what

1388
00:39:36,331 --> 00:39:38,766
we're trying to do with the

1389
00:39:37,332 --> 00:39:41,069
enhancement project. And then,

1390
00:39:38,866 --> 00:39:42,704
you know, I mean, uh, that and

1391
00:39:41,169 --> 00:39:43,872
just like I was saying about,

1392
00:39:42,804 --> 00:39:46,074
you know, the project with the

1393
00:39:43,972 --> 00:39:47,108
shade, that's not necessarily

1394
00:39:46,174 --> 00:39:49,945
the end of it, right? You know,

1395
00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:51,446
I mean, so 2028, 2029, you

1396
00:39:50,045 --> 00:39:52,581
know, there are there are going

1397
00:39:51,546 --> 00:39:53,748
to be more opportunities to do

1398
00:39:52,681 --> 00:39:54,883
more things. Hey, I really

1399
00:39:53,848 --> 00:39:56,084
liked how you did this on the

1400
00:39:54,983 --> 00:39:57,685
trail. We should have more of

1401
00:39:56,184 --> 00:39:59,021
that. Or wow, that didn't work

1402
00:39:57,785 --> 00:40:00,055
at all. This. This would be a

1403
00:39:59,121 --> 00:40:02,491
better this would be a better

1404
00:40:00,155 --> 00:40:03,925
idea. You know, some of this is

1405
00:40:02,591 --> 00:40:06,027
you plug, you play and you see

1406
00:40:04,025 --> 00:40:07,930
you see what works. We put in a

1407
00:40:06,127 --> 00:40:09,164
couple big bellies on the on

1408
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:10,665
the rail, you know, on the rail

1409
00:40:09,264 --> 00:40:11,933
trail. I want to see how they

1410
00:40:10,765 --> 00:40:13,301
how they kind of vest over a

1411
00:40:12,033 --> 00:40:14,936
couple of years. You know, if

1412
00:40:13,401 --> 00:40:16,371
it's not a big deal with the,

1413
00:40:15,036 --> 00:40:17,472
you know, the upkeep and things

1414
00:40:16,471 --> 00:40:18,740
that, you know, those sorts of

1415
00:40:17,572 --> 00:40:20,108
things, maybe that maybe

1416
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,843
they'll be interested you more

1417
00:40:20,208 --> 00:40:23,311
of those, maybe that was not

1418
00:40:21,943 --> 00:40:26,248
good. And so, you know, it's

1419
00:40:23,411 --> 00:40:27,749
it's um, it is definitely a

1420
00:40:26,348 --> 00:40:29,217
moving, you know, a moving

1421
00:40:27,849 --> 00:40:30,485
target as far as, you know

1422
00:40:29,317 --> 00:40:31,887
what, what's the right thing to

1423
00:40:30,585 --> 00:40:34,256
do, you know, in a particular

1424
00:40:31,987 --> 00:40:37,259
time. But but, um, you know,

1425
00:40:34,356 --> 00:40:38,860
I'm encouraged, especially when

1426
00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:39,895
I'm going through the, you

1427
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,129
know, the sort of rubric of

1428
00:40:39,995 --> 00:40:42,830
looking at these old meetings.

1429
00:40:41,229 --> 00:40:43,632
And I'm encouraged to see that

1430
00:40:42,930 --> 00:40:44,566
some of the things that people

1431
00:40:43,732 --> 00:40:46,535
have been talking about are

1432
00:40:44,666 --> 00:40:47,969
things that got done. And

1433
00:40:46,635 --> 00:40:50,372
that's a great credit, not just

1434
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:52,140
to this committee, but also to,

1435
00:40:50,472 --> 00:40:53,341
uh, you know, Andy and Rebecca

1436
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,843
and Town Hall and then the

1437
00:40:53,441 --> 00:40:56,545
select board and all the folks

1438
00:40:54,943 --> 00:40:58,613
who volunteer to help and, you

1439
00:40:56,645 --> 00:40:59,648
know, people at the CPC who,

1440
00:40:58,713 --> 00:41:00,548
you know, worked, worked to

1441
00:40:59,748 --> 00:41:02,284
get, you know, make sure these

1442
00:41:00,648 --> 00:41:03,985
things got funded. Uh, you

1443
00:41:02,384 --> 00:41:05,453
know, people at town Hall

1444
00:41:04,085 --> 00:41:06,488
trying to, you know, vet these

1445
00:41:05,553 --> 00:41:08,190
things and, you know, that sort

1446
00:41:06,588 --> 00:41:10,125
of thing. So it's it is really

1447
00:41:08,290 --> 00:41:13,128
an all hands on deck kind of

1448
00:41:10,225 --> 00:41:15,230
approach. And to see, you know,

1449
00:41:13,228 --> 00:41:18,033
idea to plan to funding to

1450
00:41:15,330 --> 00:41:19,467
completion is awesome. So, um,

1451
00:41:18,133 --> 00:41:20,602
maybe, maybe two years ago,

1452
00:41:19,567 --> 00:41:21,603
you'll look back on this, you

1453
00:41:20,702 --> 00:41:22,571
won't be doing it because you

1454
00:41:21,703 --> 00:41:24,005
need meeting minutes, because

1455
00:41:22,671 --> 00:41:26,107
Steve's does a fantastic job

1456
00:41:24,105 --> 00:41:28,009
getting them every week. But,

1457
00:41:26,207 --> 00:41:28,977
um, but, you know, it's nice

1458
00:41:28,109 --> 00:41:31,046
every now and then to take

1459
00:41:29,077 --> 00:41:33,181
stock of, you know, what the,

1460
00:41:31,146 --> 00:41:34,382
the the general trajectory of

1461
00:41:33,281 --> 00:41:37,018
the board is or the committee

1462
00:41:34,482 --> 00:41:40,522
is. So, um, so I'm happy about

1463
00:41:37,118 --> 00:41:41,623
that. Yeah. On that note, uh,

1464
00:41:40,622 --> 00:41:44,293
let's look at the old meeting

1465
00:41:41,723 --> 00:41:48,096
minutes. Um, as everyone had a

1466
00:41:44,393 --> 00:41:50,098
chance to take a peek at these.

1467
00:41:48,196 --> 00:41:52,467
Uh, sorry. Prior meeting.

1468
00:41:50,198 --> 00:41:53,602
The meeting, the July 23rd

1469
00:41:52,567 --> 00:41:55,437
meeting. Minutes that I have

1470
00:41:53,702 --> 00:41:57,005
put in front of you. Okay. Uh.

1471
00:41:55,537 --> 00:41:58,273
I'm sorry. Are we voting on the

1472
00:41:57,105 --> 00:42:00,108
other ones, too?

1473
00:41:58,373 --> 00:42:01,042
Not today. I don't have all. I

1474
00:42:00,208 --> 00:42:02,711
don't have all those meeting

1475
00:42:01,142 --> 00:42:04,446
minutes completed. Gotcha. So

1476
00:42:02,811 --> 00:42:05,614
I, I am working on those

1477
00:42:04,546 --> 00:42:06,815
because it's not fair to make

1478
00:42:05,714 --> 00:42:07,849
Steve do all those because he

1479
00:42:06,915 --> 00:42:08,383
does a good job on the ones

1480
00:42:07,949 --> 00:42:08,984
that we can.

1481
00:42:08,483 --> 00:42:11,686
Help with that.

1482
00:42:09,084 --> 00:42:18,193
Nope. Nope. I, uh, I am not

1483
00:42:11,786 --> 00:42:19,261
going to do that. Um, so, um. I

1484
00:42:18,293 --> 00:42:20,128
know I sent you guys an email

1485
00:42:19,361 --> 00:42:21,762
about it, but the people in

1486
00:42:20,228 --> 00:42:23,064
town don't know. Um, it's as

1487
00:42:21,863 --> 00:42:23,765
far as prior meeting minutes.

1488
00:42:23,164 --> 00:42:25,333
We're working on getting

1489
00:42:23,865 --> 00:42:26,568
everything put together so that

1490
00:42:25,433 --> 00:42:27,869
there are meeting minutes for

1491
00:42:26,668 --> 00:42:31,006
all the meetings that we that

1492
00:42:27,969 --> 00:42:34,142
we have, um, video for from

1493
00:42:31,106 --> 00:42:35,043
2024 through the present. Um, I

1494
00:42:34,242 --> 00:42:36,578
think there are a couple of

1495
00:42:35,143 --> 00:42:38,513
meetings that I saw that I

1496
00:42:36,678 --> 00:42:39,981
didn't see, you know, a video

1497
00:42:38,613 --> 00:42:41,583
for, but there are at least

1498
00:42:40,081 --> 00:42:42,817
four that are outstanding.

1499
00:42:41,683 --> 00:42:44,486
We've uploaded some of the old

1500
00:42:42,917 --> 00:42:46,888
ones that we were able to

1501
00:42:44,586 --> 00:42:47,522
locate as well. Um, but I think

1502
00:42:46,988 --> 00:42:50,458
there are four there.

1503
00:42:47,622 --> 00:42:51,726
Outstanding. I've assigned, um,

1504
00:42:50,558 --> 00:42:53,895
you know, watching these

1505
00:42:51,826 --> 00:42:55,530
minutes of these meetings, uh,

1506
00:42:53,995 --> 00:42:57,165
to members of the committee,

1507
00:42:55,630 --> 00:42:58,900
and everybody's been really

1508
00:42:57,265 --> 00:43:00,268
super helpful. And very soon we

1509
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,137
will get those meeting minutes

1510
00:43:00,368 --> 00:43:04,973
approved and then have a much

1511
00:43:02,237 --> 00:43:07,208
more complete, um, you know,

1512
00:43:05,073 --> 00:43:08,243
uh, array of, of, uh, what

1513
00:43:07,308 --> 00:43:10,512
we've been doing here for the

1514
00:43:08,343 --> 00:43:11,946
past couple of years. Uh, but

1515
00:43:10,612 --> 00:43:13,114
with that, do I have, uh, do I

1516
00:43:12,046 --> 00:43:16,651
have a motion to approve the

1517
00:43:13,214 --> 00:43:17,552
meeting minutes of July 23rd,

1518
00:43:16,751 --> 00:43:18,019
2026?

1519
00:43:17,652 --> 00:43:20,121
I'll move to.

1520
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,889
Approve..

1521
00:43:20,221 --> 00:43:21,990
I have a second.

1522
00:43:20,989 --> 00:43:24,459
Oh, I second.

1523
00:43:22,090 --> 00:43:27,529
Uh, any discussion? All those

1524
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:28,630
in favor? Aye, aye. All right.

1525
00:43:27,629 --> 00:43:29,564
Meeting minutes approved. I

1526
00:43:28,730 --> 00:43:31,433
will make sure they get to the

1527
00:43:29,664 --> 00:43:33,968
town to town clerk and are

1528
00:43:31,533 --> 00:43:35,804
updated on the website. Um,

1529
00:43:34,068 --> 00:43:37,806
future agenda items or

1530
00:43:35,904 --> 00:43:39,140
planning? Uh, anybody have

1531
00:43:37,906 --> 00:43:40,442
anything that they want to get

1532
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:43,378
on the agenda for the next

1533
00:43:40,542 --> 00:43:46,581
meeting?

1534
00:43:43,478 --> 00:43:48,616
Uh, maybe. I don't know if. Did

1535
00:43:46,681 --> 00:43:49,718
y'all talk about, um, mission

1536
00:43:48,716 --> 00:43:51,186
statement yet?

1537
00:43:49,818 --> 00:43:53,822
Uh, we haven't. And you sent me

1538
00:43:51,286 --> 00:43:57,659
something that was helpful and

1539
00:43:53,922 --> 00:43:59,194
appropriate. Um, and should

1540
00:43:57,759 --> 00:44:00,462
probably form the basis of what

1541
00:43:59,294 --> 00:44:03,665
we end up doing about that.

1542
00:44:00,562 --> 00:44:05,166
Okay. Um, so let's put it let's

1543
00:44:03,765 --> 00:44:06,701
let's have a future agenda item

1544
00:44:05,266 --> 00:44:09,371
about mission statement for the

1545
00:44:06,801 --> 00:44:11,172
recreation Committee. Um, uh,

1546
00:44:09,471 --> 00:44:12,340
Kate did, in fact send me some

1547
00:44:11,272 --> 00:44:16,144
very helpful information about

1548
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,345
that, that I will help to shape,

1549
00:44:16,244 --> 00:44:18,613
uh, and hopefully have

1550
00:44:17,445 --> 00:44:19,815
something that we can we can

1551
00:44:18,713 --> 00:44:21,249
maybe vote on next time.

1552
00:44:19,915 --> 00:44:22,484
Yeah. There. Yeah. I think

1553
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:23,852
there were, like, a couple of

1554
00:44:22,584 --> 00:44:25,353
different suggestions in there

1555
00:44:23,952 --> 00:44:28,790
of, like, a very short one and

1556
00:44:25,453 --> 00:44:30,024
then a more one, longer one.

1557
00:44:28,890 --> 00:44:31,493
We can, we can talk about it.

1558
00:44:30,124 --> 00:44:33,128
But but that'll definitely that

1559
00:44:31,593 --> 00:44:35,363
definitely will go on the next

1560
00:44:33,228 --> 00:44:37,532
on the next meeting. Uh

1561
00:44:35,463 --> 00:44:38,933
anything else.

1562
00:44:37,632 --> 00:44:41,002
I don't think so. I like we

1563
00:44:39,033 --> 00:44:43,671
have a nice set of, um, kind of

1564
00:44:41,102 --> 00:44:45,073
fixed items that really handle

1565
00:44:43,771 --> 00:44:45,273
what we have been talking

1566
00:44:45,173 --> 00:44:46,508
about.

1567
00:44:45,373 --> 00:44:48,376
So they're pretty evergreen.

1568
00:44:46,608 --> 00:44:50,111
Yeah. And, uh, and I mean, you

1569
00:44:48,476 --> 00:44:51,613
know, again, it's if you look

1570
00:44:50,211 --> 00:44:53,948
from the past, you know, some,

1571
00:44:51,713 --> 00:44:55,784
some past, like we were talking

1572
00:44:54,048 --> 00:44:56,985
about membership and now we

1573
00:44:55,884 --> 00:44:58,353
have a full board. We were

1574
00:44:57,085 --> 00:44:59,554
talking about, you know, we

1575
00:44:58,453 --> 00:45:00,855
could still use a couple of

1576
00:44:59,654 --> 00:45:02,791
alternate members, in fact.

1577
00:45:00,955 --> 00:45:04,325
But, you know, like, the things

1578
00:45:02,891 --> 00:45:06,094
that were action items are, are

1579
00:45:04,425 --> 00:45:07,128
getting done, um, even though,

1580
00:45:06,194 --> 00:45:08,229
you know, it's may not be

1581
00:45:07,228 --> 00:45:09,297
perfectly as fast as we would

1582
00:45:08,329 --> 00:45:11,466
like, but, you know, making

1583
00:45:09,397 --> 00:45:12,700
progress. So I am always of the

1584
00:45:11,566 --> 00:45:13,901
mindset that if we're moving

1585
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,969
forward, you know, we're we're

1586
00:45:14,001 --> 00:45:15,870
doing our job and we're getting

1587
00:45:15,069 --> 00:45:17,138
in good shape..

1588
00:45:15,970 --> 00:45:18,907
Is that a curious because I'm

1589
00:45:17,238 --> 00:45:20,108
not sure that if somebody was

1590
00:45:19,007 --> 00:45:21,509
interested me, an alternate

1591
00:45:20,208 --> 00:45:22,343
member, they would attend our

1592
00:45:21,609 --> 00:45:23,344
meetings, but they wouldn't

1593
00:45:22,443 --> 00:45:24,112
vote unless somebody was

1594
00:45:23,444 --> 00:45:25,446
absent. Is that how.

1595
00:45:24,212 --> 00:45:26,948
That I believe that's how it

1596
00:45:25,546 --> 00:45:29,751
works. So they contribute to

1597
00:45:27,048 --> 00:45:31,152
the meeting. They, um, you

1598
00:45:29,851 --> 00:45:32,353
know, they are there and

1599
00:45:31,252 --> 00:45:34,122
helpful and understand and have

1600
00:45:32,453 --> 00:45:35,222
been present. And then if if

1601
00:45:34,222 --> 00:45:36,391
anybody is missing, then they

1602
00:45:35,322 --> 00:45:36,691
would, they would take the

1603
00:45:36,491 --> 00:45:38,293
vote.

1604
00:45:36,791 --> 00:45:39,694
Yeah. But I think the nature of

1605
00:45:38,393 --> 00:45:40,562
our committee is it's mostly

1606
00:45:39,794 --> 00:45:42,263
the discussion and the

1607
00:45:40,662 --> 00:45:42,730
brainstorming and, and that. So

1608
00:45:42,363 --> 00:45:43,765
I don't think.

1609
00:45:42,830 --> 00:45:44,399
There's not a lot there's not a

1610
00:45:43,865 --> 00:45:44,699
lot of votes.

1611
00:45:44,499 --> 00:45:45,534
Right.

1612
00:45:44,799 --> 00:45:46,301
We're not per.

1613
00:45:45,634 --> 00:45:48,870
Se we're not.

1614
00:45:46,401 --> 00:45:49,904
So, so right. So having a

1615
00:45:48,970 --> 00:45:51,172
having a couple alternate

1616
00:45:50,004 --> 00:45:52,474
members would be very helpful

1617
00:45:51,272 --> 00:45:53,808
because it would add it would

1618
00:45:52,574 --> 00:45:55,577
add to the, you know, it would

1619
00:45:53,908 --> 00:45:57,712
add to the soup I think. And

1620
00:45:55,677 --> 00:45:58,179
uh, and so I'm definitely

1621
00:45:57,812 --> 00:45:59,147
amenable..

1622
00:45:58,279 --> 00:46:01,449
And a two that.

1623
00:45:59,247 --> 00:46:01,917
Were two is two is what we can

1624
00:46:01,549 --> 00:46:02,517
have I think.

1625
00:46:02,017 --> 00:46:06,788
Okay.

1626
00:46:02,617 --> 00:46:09,090
Um, um, so any other future

1627
00:46:06,888 --> 00:46:10,992
agenda items that.

1628
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:11,993
I know.

1629
00:46:11,092 --> 00:46:13,028
All right. Items are not

1630
00:46:12,093 --> 00:46:14,696
reasonably anticipated at the

1631
00:46:13,128 --> 00:46:17,332
time of posting. I've got one.

1632
00:46:14,796 --> 00:46:20,101
Okay. Um, so, uh, people of

1633
00:46:17,432 --> 00:46:22,470
Groveland, uh, we now have been

1634
00:46:20,201 --> 00:46:23,471
assigned to our intended to be

1635
00:46:22,570 --> 00:46:25,473
assigned as members of

1636
00:46:23,571 --> 00:46:28,009
committees in town. Uh, town

1637
00:46:25,573 --> 00:46:29,210
emails. Uh, so it is my

1638
00:46:28,109 --> 00:46:31,646
understanding that everybody

1639
00:46:29,310 --> 00:46:33,548
who is on a board or committee,

1640
00:46:31,746 --> 00:46:35,049
um, gets a, gets a town email.

1641
00:46:33,648 --> 00:46:36,384
And so it's generally speaking

1642
00:46:35,149 --> 00:46:40,221
and it may not be universally

1643
00:46:36,484 --> 00:46:45,693
this way. Um, first initial

1644
00:46:40,321 --> 00:46:49,664
last name at Groveland may.

1645
00:46:45,793 --> 00:46:50,532
Yep. Right. And so, um, if

1646
00:46:49,764 --> 00:46:53,735
you're looking to get a hold of

1647
00:46:50,632 --> 00:46:54,603
people, the idea is now that,

1648
00:46:53,835 --> 00:46:56,538
um, you should be using the

1649
00:46:54,703 --> 00:46:58,273
Groveland Mass websites instead

1650
00:46:56,638 --> 00:47:00,508
of people's personal emails.

1651
00:46:58,373 --> 00:47:02,777
Uh, it's just smoother and a

1652
00:47:00,608 --> 00:47:03,845
little more collaborative. And,

1653
00:47:02,877 --> 00:47:06,447
uh, we're working out the

1654
00:47:03,945 --> 00:47:08,183
kinks, but, uh, collectively,

1655
00:47:06,547 --> 00:47:09,050
um, but I think we're we're

1656
00:47:08,283 --> 00:47:11,653
going to be trending toward

1657
00:47:09,150 --> 00:47:13,221
that. And so certainly, um, if

1658
00:47:11,753 --> 00:47:14,856
you're wondering why an email

1659
00:47:13,321 --> 00:47:15,990
responded to or things along

1660
00:47:14,956 --> 00:47:17,792
those lines, there's a little

1661
00:47:16,090 --> 00:47:20,261
bit of uptake happening. So,

1662
00:47:17,892 --> 00:47:22,730
uh, try to use the first

1663
00:47:20,361 --> 00:47:25,767
initial last name at Groveland,

1664
00:47:22,830 --> 00:47:26,902
Ma, uh, for anybody that you

1665
00:47:25,867 --> 00:47:28,870
want to get Ahold of.

1666
00:47:27,002 --> 00:47:30,471
Have they said if they're going

1667
00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:31,673
to do, like an alias like

1668
00:47:30,571 --> 00:47:33,408
recreation committee at

1669
00:47:31,773 --> 00:47:35,043
Groveland, Ma, that goes to all

1670
00:47:33,508 --> 00:47:35,977
of us, because that would be

1671
00:47:35,143 --> 00:47:37,812
handy.

1672
00:47:36,077 --> 00:47:39,414
That sounds, uh, that sounds

1673
00:47:37,912 --> 00:47:41,616
above my pay grade. As far as

1674
00:47:39,514 --> 00:47:42,951
tech discussions, but I know

1675
00:47:41,716 --> 00:47:44,052
you could talk to about that.

1676
00:47:43,051 --> 00:47:45,787
And I know she would have

1677
00:47:44,152 --> 00:47:48,089
something to say for sure. So,

1678
00:47:45,887 --> 00:47:49,090
uh, I welcome you to to begin

1679
00:47:48,189 --> 00:47:50,692
that discussion.

1680
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:52,293
I just because it seems silly

1681
00:47:50,792 --> 00:47:53,295
to make people type in five

1682
00:47:52,393 --> 00:47:55,397
emails.

1683
00:47:53,395 --> 00:47:57,065
Yep. Right. No. True. Um.

1684
00:47:55,497 --> 00:47:57,732
So we don't reply all and

1685
00:47:57,165 --> 00:47:59,067
discuss.

1686
00:47:57,832 --> 00:48:00,201
Right? Exactly. Well, no.

1687
00:47:59,167 --> 00:48:02,136
Again. And you know.

1688
00:48:00,301 --> 00:48:03,438
Well, do we we have to reply

1689
00:48:02,236 --> 00:48:06,541
all though, right?

1690
00:48:03,538 --> 00:48:07,776
Well, so no, uh, so.

1691
00:48:06,641 --> 00:48:08,810
No, no, no, it's the opposite.

1692
00:48:07,876 --> 00:48:10,545
You're right. It's the, it's

1693
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:11,980
you have to reply one.

1694
00:48:10,645 --> 00:48:13,147
Lie only to you.

1695
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,850
Right. Because the whole, the

1696
00:48:13,247 --> 00:48:16,684
whole point is, is and it bears

1697
00:48:15,950 --> 00:48:18,353
repeating because it's

1698
00:48:16,784 --> 00:48:19,654
something that goes that's at

1699
00:48:18,453 --> 00:48:21,422
every committee and every board

1700
00:48:19,754 --> 00:48:23,224
is if there's a discussion that

1701
00:48:21,522 --> 00:48:25,126
disseminates from the the chair

1702
00:48:23,324 --> 00:48:27,061
of the board or the committee,

1703
00:48:25,226 --> 00:48:28,662
um, if you start having reply

1704
00:48:27,161 --> 00:48:29,897
calls and it's like you're

1705
00:48:28,763 --> 00:48:31,499
having a meeting when you're

1706
00:48:29,997 --> 00:48:32,900
not having a meeting, uh,

1707
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,969
that's available to the public.

1708
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,137
And so the idea is, yes,

1709
00:48:35,069 --> 00:48:37,205
there's information that can be

1710
00:48:36,237 --> 00:48:39,073
exchanged outside of the

1711
00:48:37,305 --> 00:48:40,108
public's eye. But when we all

1712
00:48:39,173 --> 00:48:41,909
talk about something, it's

1713
00:48:40,208 --> 00:48:42,977
supposed to be in a form where

1714
00:48:42,009 --> 00:48:44,612
everybody can get together.

1715
00:48:43,077 --> 00:48:46,314
Now, there's a there's a grand

1716
00:48:44,712 --> 00:48:47,248
total of zero folks here.

1717
00:48:46,414 --> 00:48:49,150
Yeah.

1718
00:48:47,348 --> 00:48:51,085
So it's, you know, in practice

1719
00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:52,954
right now, not an issue. But,

1720
00:48:51,185 --> 00:48:53,921
um, maybe someday that'll

1721
00:48:53,054 --> 00:48:54,989
change and maybe more people

1722
00:48:54,021 --> 00:48:56,290
will come in and maybe more

1723
00:48:55,089 --> 00:48:57,592
people will will use the zoom

1724
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:57,759
link as well. And that would be

1725
00:48:57,692 --> 00:49:00,194
too.

1726
00:48:57,859 --> 00:49:01,496
I would think that part of the

1727
00:49:00,294 --> 00:49:04,065
purpose of having the town

1728
00:49:01,596 --> 00:49:05,933
emails is so that any discourse

1729
00:49:04,165 --> 00:49:06,468
can become part of the public

1730
00:49:06,033 --> 00:49:07,268
record.

1731
00:49:06,568 --> 00:49:11,072
Sure.

1732
00:49:07,368 --> 00:49:13,374
And if that is the case, then

1733
00:49:11,172 --> 00:49:18,379
you know, that type of thing

1734
00:49:13,474 --> 00:49:21,249
would be like almost, you know,

1735
00:49:18,479 --> 00:49:22,117
uh, in the military we say OB,

1736
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:23,218
but what the what's.

1737
00:49:22,217 --> 00:49:23,852
An overcome by events?

1738
00:49:23,318 --> 00:49:25,553
Yes.

1739
00:49:23,952 --> 00:49:25,987
What's a. normal way to say

1740
00:49:25,653 --> 00:49:27,155
that.

1741
00:49:26,087 --> 00:49:28,256
Right. Well, I think it's like

1742
00:49:27,255 --> 00:49:29,223
the there's the two sides of

1743
00:49:28,356 --> 00:49:30,224
the public record piece, but

1744
00:49:29,323 --> 00:49:30,825
there's also the open meeting

1745
00:49:30,324 --> 00:49:31,159
law piece.

1746
00:49:30,925 --> 00:49:32,293
Right.

1747
00:49:31,259 --> 00:49:33,628
Okay. And that's I think

1748
00:49:32,393 --> 00:49:35,830
specifically where we can't

1749
00:49:33,728 --> 00:49:36,698
have any we can I can send the

1750
00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:38,099
meeting minutes that we're

1751
00:49:36,798 --> 00:49:39,901
going to review, but we can't

1752
00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:40,902
have a back and forth on what

1753
00:49:40,001 --> 00:49:42,270
our mission statement.

1754
00:49:41,002 --> 00:49:45,606
That okay. Right. Right, right.

1755
00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:47,208
And and if it goes from person

1756
00:49:45,706 --> 00:49:48,543
to chair and a person to chair

1757
00:49:47,308 --> 00:49:50,244
and person to chair, that's

1758
00:49:48,643 --> 00:49:51,545
okay. As we're sort of trying

1759
00:49:50,344 --> 00:49:53,181
to formalize the things so that

1760
00:49:51,645 --> 00:49:55,049
we can maybe vote on it. Right.

1761
00:49:53,281 --> 00:49:56,451
But if it's like, hey

1762
00:49:55,149 --> 00:49:58,286
everybody, what do you think?

1763
00:49:56,551 --> 00:50:00,988
And then everybody's, you know,

1764
00:49:58,386 --> 00:50:02,390
it starts going, you know, from

1765
00:50:01,088 --> 00:50:03,024
lateral that it's that it's

1766
00:50:02,490 --> 00:50:04,025
problematic.

1767
00:50:03,124 --> 00:50:05,193
And then I guess at that point,

1768
00:50:04,125 --> 00:50:06,461
like it could get to the point

1769
00:50:05,293 --> 00:50:07,261
where you're having discussions

1770
00:50:06,561 --> 00:50:08,229
and then you show up at the

1771
00:50:07,361 --> 00:50:09,230
meeting and you just have the

1772
00:50:08,329 --> 00:50:10,531
vote. And like.

1773
00:50:09,330 --> 00:50:10,899
That's what it's designed to

1774
00:50:10,631 --> 00:50:11,733
prevent.

1775
00:50:10,999 --> 00:50:12,467
Right. Exactly.

1776
00:50:11,833 --> 00:50:15,303
So yeah.

1777
00:50:12,567 --> 00:50:16,571
Right. And and I mean, we're

1778
00:50:15,403 --> 00:50:17,939
watching these videos, I can

1779
00:50:16,671 --> 00:50:19,741
tell you this, this committee

1780
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:21,008
does does a good job of vetting

1781
00:50:19,841 --> 00:50:22,310
things out. And, you know,

1782
00:50:21,108 --> 00:50:23,611
having hashing all their

1783
00:50:22,410 --> 00:50:25,012
thoughts out in the open. And

1784
00:50:23,711 --> 00:50:27,381
it's, uh, it's a it's a good

1785
00:50:25,112 --> 00:50:28,549
forum that way. So, uh, people

1786
00:50:27,481 --> 00:50:30,184
of grumbling feel free to come

1787
00:50:28,649 --> 00:50:31,419
to any recreation meeting. We

1788
00:50:30,284 --> 00:50:32,854
publicize these things. You

1789
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:34,388
certainly can be there. And if

1790
00:50:32,954 --> 00:50:35,857
it's if it's a hassle, we

1791
00:50:34,488 --> 00:50:37,258
understand we all have lives to

1792
00:50:35,957 --> 00:50:38,526
remember. We're volunteers,

1793
00:50:37,358 --> 00:50:41,629
even though we have Groveland,

1794
00:50:38,626 --> 00:50:42,964
Massachusetts emails now. Um,

1795
00:50:41,729 --> 00:50:44,665
we're all volunteers. So, you

1796
00:50:43,064 --> 00:50:45,833
know, we understand busy. And

1797
00:50:44,765 --> 00:50:47,368
you certainly can use the zoom

1798
00:50:45,933 --> 00:50:48,169
link and, you know, do all the

1799
00:50:47,468 --> 00:50:51,305
things that you would do at

1800
00:50:48,269 --> 00:50:52,974
home anyway. So, um, with that,

1801
00:50:51,405 --> 00:50:53,541
any other items not reasonably

1802
00:50:53,074 --> 00:50:54,408
anticipated?

1803
00:50:53,641 --> 00:50:55,576
That makes me think of a

1804
00:50:54,508 --> 00:50:58,713
question regarding the two

1805
00:50:55,676 --> 00:51:00,414
previous thing. If a quorum of

1806
00:50:58,813 --> 00:51:03,084
this committee is attending the

1807
00:51:00,514 --> 00:51:04,819
CPC meeting, do we just have to

1808
00:51:03,184 --> 00:51:06,654
be careful, or do we have to

1809
00:51:04,919 --> 00:51:08,022
declare it also a recreation

1810
00:51:06,754 --> 00:51:11,292
committee meeting?

1811
00:51:08,122 --> 00:51:12,894
It's not because when you go to

1812
00:51:11,392 --> 00:51:13,861
your CPC meeting, you're not

1813
00:51:12,994 --> 00:51:15,029
going as a member of the

1814
00:51:13,961 --> 00:51:16,130
recreation committee, you're

1815
00:51:15,129 --> 00:51:17,532
going as a proponent of a

1816
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:18,432
project. You're an individual.

1817
00:51:17,632 --> 00:51:19,667
You're you're a town

1818
00:51:18,532 --> 00:51:22,136
individual. So I don't see

1819
00:51:19,767 --> 00:51:24,672
there being any any issue with,

1820
00:51:22,236 --> 00:51:26,374
you know, uh, the fact that

1821
00:51:24,772 --> 00:51:27,375
three to 3 to 5 of it, we're

1822
00:51:26,474 --> 00:51:28,943
not conducting committee

1823
00:51:27,475 --> 00:51:30,044
business. Right. We're you

1824
00:51:29,043 --> 00:51:31,812
you're an individual with an

1825
00:51:30,145 --> 00:51:34,148
individual project. Okay. That

1826
00:51:31,912 --> 00:51:35,249
is encouraged and sanctioned by

1827
00:51:34,248 --> 00:51:36,584
the recreation committee, for

1828
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:38,419
sure. But at the same point,

1829
00:51:36,684 --> 00:51:41,122
it's not a recreation committee

1830
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:42,190
project. Um, so I think you're

1831
00:51:41,222 --> 00:51:43,123
wearing your individual hat. I

1832
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:44,992
think it shouldn't be a

1833
00:51:43,223 --> 00:51:46,194
problem. But I mean, you know,

1834
00:51:45,092 --> 00:51:47,028
fair, fair question to ask.

1835
00:51:46,294 --> 00:51:48,429
Anyway.

1836
00:51:47,128 --> 00:51:50,565
Um, I also have a question

1837
00:51:48,529 --> 00:51:52,300
about this is, um, this is a

1838
00:51:50,665 --> 00:51:53,768
new to New England. I've never

1839
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,670
been to a town meeting before.

1840
00:51:53,868 --> 00:51:56,571
No, nowhere. I grew up, had

1841
00:51:55,770 --> 00:51:58,072
town meetings.

1842
00:51:56,671 --> 00:52:00,608
Um.

1843
00:51:58,172 --> 00:52:02,610
Is like, ah, does each

1844
00:52:00,708 --> 00:52:04,145
committee do, like, a report at

1845
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:05,646
that meeting? Like, would we be

1846
00:52:04,245 --> 00:52:07,215
expected to, like, bring

1847
00:52:05,746 --> 00:52:08,383
something to that meeting, or

1848
00:52:07,348 --> 00:52:09,317
is it just kind of like

1849
00:52:08,516 --> 00:52:11,652
election y stuff.

1850
00:52:09,417 --> 00:52:13,020
Like, so what happens just

1851
00:52:11,752 --> 00:52:14,288
just, you know, so, you know,

1852
00:52:13,154 --> 00:52:15,823
and it's it was new to me when

1853
00:52:14,421 --> 00:52:17,324
I moved to town also a few

1854
00:52:15,956 --> 00:52:18,993
years back. So don't feel don't

1855
00:52:17,425 --> 00:52:21,229
feel bashful about about it.

1856
00:52:19,093 --> 00:52:23,297
Um, the what happens at town

1857
00:52:21,329 --> 00:52:25,533
meeting is there are there's a

1858
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:27,201
warrant and the warrant has

1859
00:52:25,633 --> 00:52:29,237
these are the articles that are

1860
00:52:27,301 --> 00:52:32,073
up for discussion and vote.

1861
00:52:29,337 --> 00:52:34,075
Okay. And so the the town gets

1862
00:52:32,173 --> 00:52:35,476
to vote on things like the

1863
00:52:34,175 --> 00:52:36,477
budget and gets the vote on,

1864
00:52:35,576 --> 00:52:37,311
you know, what are we going to

1865
00:52:36,577 --> 00:52:38,379
do about, you know, are we

1866
00:52:37,411 --> 00:52:39,547
going to buy this piece of

1867
00:52:38,479 --> 00:52:41,382
land. Are we going to accept

1868
00:52:39,647 --> 00:52:43,050
this project. Are we going to

1869
00:52:41,482 --> 00:52:44,585
for for the CPC specific

1870
00:52:43,150 --> 00:52:46,020
things? Are we going to fund

1871
00:52:44,685 --> 00:52:48,189
these projects? You know, and

1872
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,390
so it's a thumbs up or thumbs

1873
00:52:48,289 --> 00:52:50,791
down and, you know, like, you

1874
00:52:49,490 --> 00:52:52,460
know, people can propose

1875
00:52:50,891 --> 00:52:54,095
amendments and, you know, so

1876
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,664
there's each of the warrant

1877
00:52:54,195 --> 00:52:57,932
articles is like, um, it's kind

1878
00:52:56,764 --> 00:52:59,867
of like a ballot initiative,

1879
00:52:58,032 --> 00:53:01,302
right? Is the way that I would

1880
00:52:59,967 --> 00:53:02,503
sort of explain it to somebody

1881
00:53:01,402 --> 00:53:04,038
who hadn't seen one. And so

1882
00:53:02,603 --> 00:53:05,539
it's like, do we want to do

1883
00:53:04,138 --> 00:53:06,507
this? And there'll be people

1884
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:07,408
that can speak in favor,

1885
00:53:06,607 --> 00:53:08,609
there'll be people that can

1886
00:53:07,508 --> 00:53:10,144
speak against. And then, you

1887
00:53:08,709 --> 00:53:11,545
know, eventually the discussion

1888
00:53:10,244 --> 00:53:15,182
happens and then there's a

1889
00:53:11,645 --> 00:53:16,350
vote. So, um, it's not that the

1890
00:53:15,282 --> 00:53:17,752
Recreation Committee would

1891
00:53:16,450 --> 00:53:19,553
like, have in our particular

1892
00:53:17,852 --> 00:53:20,621
situation like, uh, you know,

1893
00:53:19,653 --> 00:53:23,190
like a presentation that we

1894
00:53:20,722 --> 00:53:27,094
have to make, um, you know, if

1895
00:53:23,290 --> 00:53:29,931
there's a particular, um, what

1896
00:53:27,194 --> 00:53:30,831
will happen is various boards

1897
00:53:30,031 --> 00:53:33,100
and committees will take a

1898
00:53:30,931 --> 00:53:34,535
position on a, on an article

1899
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,537
and say, you know, okay,

1900
00:53:34,635 --> 00:53:38,572
finance supports this. And, you

1901
00:53:36,637 --> 00:53:39,941
know, CPC supports this

1902
00:53:38,672 --> 00:53:41,375
project, you know, supports

1903
00:53:40,041 --> 00:53:43,110
this project. Select board is

1904
00:53:41,475 --> 00:53:44,946
in favor so that folks have an

1905
00:53:43,210 --> 00:53:46,147
idea of what the people in, you

1906
00:53:45,046 --> 00:53:47,114
know, what the boards and town

1907
00:53:46,247 --> 00:53:49,116
sort of think about these

1908
00:53:47,214 --> 00:53:50,318
things. So it helps them to

1909
00:53:49,216 --> 00:53:51,819
say, okay, well, you know, this

1910
00:53:50,418 --> 00:53:53,187
is something that, you know,

1911
00:53:51,919 --> 00:53:54,588
seems to make financial sense

1912
00:53:53,287 --> 00:53:56,224
and it's not, you know, uh, you

1913
00:53:54,688 --> 00:53:58,893
know, gotcha. An albatross or

1914
00:53:56,324 --> 00:54:01,195
something. But, uh, it's, you

1915
00:53:58,993 --> 00:54:02,430
know, uh, it's an interesting

1916
00:54:01,295 --> 00:54:03,397
it's an interesting couple of

1917
00:54:02,530 --> 00:54:06,300
hours, I'll tell you that for

1918
00:54:03,497 --> 00:54:07,568
sure. And, um, you in

1919
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,136
Groveland. In groveling, you

1920
00:54:07,668 --> 00:54:10,905
need 100 people to have a

1921
00:54:09,236 --> 00:54:12,506
quorum. And a couple of years

1922
00:54:11,005 --> 00:54:14,475
ago was tight. We're getting

1923
00:54:12,606 --> 00:54:16,811
better at, um. I was part of

1924
00:54:14,575 --> 00:54:19,080
the committee that, uh, that,

1925
00:54:16,911 --> 00:54:20,481
um, you know, was formed to try

1926
00:54:19,180 --> 00:54:21,449
to encourage, you know, what

1927
00:54:20,581 --> 00:54:22,649
kind of things can we do to

1928
00:54:21,549 --> 00:54:24,552
encourage attendance and things

1929
00:54:22,749 --> 00:54:26,020
like that? Um, but I think

1930
00:54:24,652 --> 00:54:27,989
we're getting more attendance

1931
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,891
each year. Um, over the last

1932
00:54:28,089 --> 00:54:32,460
couple. Um, but it is I

1933
00:54:30,991 --> 00:54:33,694
encourage everyone to attend.

1934
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,129
And, you know, this is where

1935
00:54:33,794 --> 00:54:37,298
you're really your voice really

1936
00:54:35,229 --> 00:54:40,835
matters. Because if we are a

1937
00:54:37,398 --> 00:54:42,870
town of 6500 people or so and

1938
00:54:40,935 --> 00:54:44,238
120 show up to vote on the

1939
00:54:42,970 --> 00:54:45,940
thing, you know, to vote on a

1940
00:54:44,338 --> 00:54:47,708
$20 million budget. You know, I

1941
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,744
mean, I think, you know, you

1942
00:54:47,808 --> 00:54:51,345
gotta you got to have some skin

1943
00:54:49,844 --> 00:54:52,279
in the game. Yeah. You know,

1944
00:54:51,445 --> 00:54:54,749
you should get down there and

1945
00:54:52,379 --> 00:54:56,417
be a part of it. Um, so.

1946
00:54:54,849 --> 00:54:58,152
So where to, where do the,

1947
00:54:56,517 --> 00:54:59,920
like, budget requests for that

1948
00:54:58,252 --> 00:55:02,823
budget that gets voted on come

1949
00:55:00,020 --> 00:55:04,558
from? And specifically, I guess

1950
00:55:02,923 --> 00:55:07,161
the point of the question is

1951
00:55:04,658 --> 00:55:08,195
like for say, we wanted to do

1952
00:55:07,261 --> 00:55:09,597
something and we needed a

1953
00:55:08,295 --> 00:55:11,432
budget for the next fiscal year

1954
00:55:09,697 --> 00:55:12,733
or whatever, like where when at

1955
00:55:11,532 --> 00:55:13,834
one point, one point would we

1956
00:55:12,833 --> 00:55:14,935
request that? Where would that

1957
00:55:13,934 --> 00:55:15,737
go in? Like how would we get

1958
00:55:15,035 --> 00:55:17,571
that submitted?

1959
00:55:15,837 --> 00:55:19,140
Well, so I think if if the

1960
00:55:17,671 --> 00:55:21,375
recreation committee wanted to

1961
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:23,377
get some money to do a thing,

1962
00:55:21,475 --> 00:55:24,945
um, not necessarily like a PC

1963
00:55:23,477 --> 00:55:25,946
project, I think we would have

1964
00:55:25,045 --> 00:55:26,981
to reach out to the select

1965
00:55:26,046 --> 00:55:28,182
board. I think we would have to

1966
00:55:27,081 --> 00:55:29,050
reach out to the town manager.

1967
00:55:28,282 --> 00:55:30,718
I think we would have to reach

1968
00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:31,986
out to finance. I think

1969
00:55:30,818 --> 00:55:33,921
depending on what the topic

1970
00:55:32,086 --> 00:55:34,655
was, maybe, maybe we'd need to

1971
00:55:34,021 --> 00:55:35,756
reach out to like the

1972
00:55:34,755 --> 00:55:36,691
Conservation Commission if

1973
00:55:35,856 --> 00:55:37,892
there was something about, you

1974
00:55:36,791 --> 00:55:38,859
know, those sorts of things. So

1975
00:55:37,992 --> 00:55:42,029
it would depend on what the

1976
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,097
project was. But I mean, the

1977
00:55:42,129 --> 00:55:43,831
the general answer is you're

1978
00:55:43,197 --> 00:55:44,899
probably gonna have to reach

1979
00:55:43,931 --> 00:55:46,600
out to a lot of folks if

1980
00:55:44,999 --> 00:55:48,702
there's some sort of if there's

1981
00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:50,304
an earmark you want to get. Um,

1982
00:55:48,802 --> 00:55:52,773
one thing that I learned that I

1983
00:55:50,404 --> 00:55:56,210
didn't know coming in to all of

1984
00:55:52,873 --> 00:55:57,578
this was, uh, not all pots of

1985
00:55:56,310 --> 00:56:00,381
money are accessible for all

1986
00:55:57,678 --> 00:56:01,649
things. And money for this has

1987
00:56:00,481 --> 00:56:02,950
to go into this pocket, and

1988
00:56:01,749 --> 00:56:03,984
money for that has to go into

1989
00:56:03,050 --> 00:56:05,786
that bucket. And you can't

1990
00:56:04,084 --> 00:56:07,288
necessarily mix them and

1991
00:56:05,886 --> 00:56:09,023
intermingle them. And there are

1992
00:56:07,388 --> 00:56:11,425
rules about how how things have

1993
00:56:09,123 --> 00:56:12,993
to get bid. So, um, it's not

1994
00:56:11,525 --> 00:56:14,261
always so simple as I need

1995
00:56:13,093 --> 00:56:16,064
money from this. Take it from

1996
00:56:14,361 --> 00:56:17,098
the general fund, you know.

1997
00:56:16,164 --> 00:56:18,999
Yeah, I work in government

1998
00:56:17,198 --> 00:56:19,901
contracting. I know. about

1999
00:56:19,099 --> 00:56:20,468
colors of money.

2000
00:56:20,001 --> 00:56:23,070
Well.

2001
00:56:20,568 --> 00:56:24,572
I don't know. I do not, and so

2002
00:56:23,170 --> 00:56:25,773
I would love to read about it

2003
00:56:24,672 --> 00:56:27,775
individually when I'm not

2004
00:56:25,873 --> 00:56:28,109
wearing my hat as a recreation

2005
00:56:27,875 --> 00:56:28,576
board.

2006
00:56:28,209 --> 00:56:29,077
It's not.

2007
00:56:28,676 --> 00:56:31,279
Fun.

2008
00:56:29,177 --> 00:56:32,280
, like, you know, it's not fun.

2009
00:56:31,379 --> 00:56:32,914
It's never fun.

2010
00:56:32,380 --> 00:56:35,349
So, um.

2011
00:56:33,014 --> 00:56:36,817
Okay, so it's not like there's

2012
00:56:35,449 --> 00:56:38,185
not a point at which, like, the

2013
00:56:36,917 --> 00:56:39,253
select board puts out a request

2014
00:56:38,285 --> 00:56:40,688
to all the committees to say,

2015
00:56:39,353 --> 00:56:41,789
like, put in your budget

2016
00:56:40,788 --> 00:56:42,857
requests for the next year.

2017
00:56:41,889 --> 00:56:45,059
That doesn't happen.

2018
00:56:42,957 --> 00:56:46,460
Well, okay. It hasn't it hasn't

2019
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:48,629
in our budget currently for

2020
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,730
this committee is zero. Yeah.

2021
00:56:48,729 --> 00:56:50,731
It has been since I've been a

2022
00:56:49,830 --> 00:56:51,499
member. So I mean, if.

2023
00:56:50,831 --> 00:56:52,967
We reach out to town

2024
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,235
departments for that and the

2025
00:56:53,067 --> 00:56:55,502
town administrator coordinates

2026
00:56:54,335 --> 00:56:56,937
that and they have hearings in

2027
00:56:55,602 --> 00:56:59,073
front of the finance committee

2028
00:56:57,037 --> 00:57:01,575
for that, but, ah, yeah, we're

2029
00:56:59,173 --> 00:57:03,110
advisory. So if we were to like

2030
00:57:01,675 --> 00:57:04,512
going back to the idea of like

2031
00:57:03,210 --> 00:57:05,913
scanning the QR code to donate,

2032
00:57:04,612 --> 00:57:07,448
if we ended up saying, oh, we

2033
00:57:06,013 --> 00:57:08,983
need a revolving fund for trail

2034
00:57:07,548 --> 00:57:10,818
maintenance, and the donations

2035
00:57:09,083 --> 00:57:12,753
go into that, and when we can

2036
00:57:10,918 --> 00:57:13,654
help decide where that is

2037
00:57:12,853 --> 00:57:14,522
expended, that would be

2038
00:57:13,754 --> 00:57:16,457
something that would have to be

2039
00:57:14,622 --> 00:57:18,425
approved by town meeting and

2040
00:57:16,557 --> 00:57:20,094
all that sort of stuff. I think

2041
00:57:18,525 --> 00:57:21,629
we haven't gotten to that

2042
00:57:20,194 --> 00:57:23,063
point. And but when the

2043
00:57:21,729 --> 00:57:25,900
recreation committee used to

2044
00:57:23,163 --> 00:57:27,801
run the town, the summer pro,

2045
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,270
the summer camp program, there

2046
00:57:27,901 --> 00:57:30,971
was a revolving fund for that,

2047
00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:32,106
and there was money allocated.

2048
00:57:31,071 --> 00:57:33,340
So I think there was a history

2049
00:57:32,206 --> 00:57:35,042
at one point where this

2050
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,243
recreation committee did have

2051
00:57:35,142 --> 00:57:37,544
essentially control over some

2052
00:57:36,343 --> 00:57:39,647
of that money, even though it

2053
00:57:37,644 --> 00:57:40,781
was the the town itself was the

2054
00:57:39,747 --> 00:57:43,083
actual administrator of those

2055
00:57:40,881 --> 00:57:44,185
funds. We don't have a fiscal

2056
00:57:43,183 --> 00:57:45,452
role.

2057
00:57:44,285 --> 00:57:46,120
Right. It makes sense

2058
00:57:45,552 --> 00:57:46,988
currently.

2059
00:57:46,220 --> 00:57:48,989
Right. Currently.

2060
00:57:47,088 --> 00:57:50,324
And and I mean, the other piece

2061
00:57:49,089 --> 00:57:52,593
of it is a lot of this stuff is

2062
00:57:50,424 --> 00:57:53,494
fluid. So the Select board is

2063
00:57:52,693 --> 00:57:54,762
interested in hearing what we

2064
00:57:53,594 --> 00:57:56,830
have to say about things. And,

2065
00:57:54,862 --> 00:57:58,065
you know, as as the town grows

2066
00:57:56,930 --> 00:57:59,967
and develops, who knows? You

2067
00:57:58,165 --> 00:58:01,001
know, a recreation department

2068
00:58:00,067 --> 00:58:03,170
might be an appropriate thing

2069
00:58:01,101 --> 00:58:04,738
at some point. Um, I don't

2070
00:58:03,271 --> 00:58:06,941
think we're there quite yet.

2071
00:58:04,838 --> 00:58:10,945
Yeah. Um, but you never know.

2072
00:58:07,041 --> 00:58:12,547
Um, so is that helpful?

2073
00:58:11,045 --> 00:58:12,880
Yes. Thank you.

2074
00:58:12,647 --> 00:58:13,714
That is.

2075
00:58:12,980 --> 00:58:15,482
Helpful.

2076
00:58:13,814 --> 00:58:18,385
Awesome. Uh, anybody have

2077
00:58:15,582 --> 00:58:19,853
anything else? I do? Uh, let's

2078
00:58:18,485 --> 00:58:20,988
talk about the next meeting. I

2079
00:58:19,953 --> 00:58:24,425
would like to get it in front

2080
00:58:21,088 --> 00:58:27,461
of Pumpkin Fest. Um, so I was

2081
00:58:24,525 --> 00:58:29,029
sort of targeting October 8th.

2082
00:58:27,561 --> 00:58:30,331
Um, I did check with Emilio,

2083
00:58:29,129 --> 00:58:32,433
and he says that works for him,

2084
00:58:30,431 --> 00:58:34,067
too. He can also make the 15th

2085
00:58:32,533 --> 00:58:35,202
work if need be, but I would

2086
00:58:34,167 --> 00:58:37,338
kind of prefer the eighth. But

2087
00:58:35,302 --> 00:58:39,240
I can also do the 15th or

2088
00:58:37,438 --> 00:58:39,840
either of those dates. Okay.

2089
00:58:39,340 --> 00:58:41,008
Either of those.

2090
00:58:39,940 --> 00:58:42,410
Dates.

2091
00:58:41,108 --> 00:58:44,478
Yeah.

2092
00:58:42,510 --> 00:58:45,779
Yeah, I can.

2093
00:58:44,578 --> 00:58:47,348
Do I yeah, I think that the

2094
00:58:45,879 --> 00:58:48,115
eighth would be preferable.

2095
00:58:47,448 --> 00:58:50,217
Preferable.

2096
00:58:48,215 --> 00:58:51,051
But let's do it. Let's, let's

2097
00:58:50,317 --> 00:58:51,885
set it for the eighth.

2098
00:58:51,151 --> 00:58:52,185
Everybody put it in your

2099
00:58:51,985 --> 00:58:52,519
calendar.

2100
00:58:52,286 --> 00:58:52,786
It gives.

2101
00:58:52,619 --> 00:58:54,488
Us the.

2102
00:58:52,886 --> 00:58:55,890
15th in case it has the slot.

2103
00:58:54,588 --> 00:58:57,625
Right. Putting it in right now.

2104
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:59,393
No it's good, it's good. This

2105
00:58:57,725 --> 00:59:01,762
is, this is again we're we're

2106
00:58:59,493 --> 00:59:02,630
working towards something. Uh,

2107
00:59:01,862 --> 00:59:04,298
recreation Committee.

2108
00:59:02,730 --> 00:59:05,433
7:00 works well for me. If it

2109
00:59:04,398 --> 00:59:05,833
works well for.

2110
00:59:05,533 --> 00:59:08,302
Yeah.

2111
00:59:05,933 --> 00:59:10,571
Yeah, exactly. So. And that's

2112
00:59:08,402 --> 00:59:12,139
October 8th, and I will make

2113
00:59:10,671 --> 00:59:24,652
sure that I'm on top of getting

2114
00:59:12,239 --> 00:59:27,054
the getting the agenda out. All

2115
00:59:24,752 --> 00:59:33,861
right. We're getting there,

2116
00:59:27,154 --> 00:59:36,363
folks. Um, all right, so the

2117
00:59:33,961 --> 00:59:38,732
we, uh, we've set the next

2118
00:59:36,463 --> 00:59:42,102
meeting for Thursday, October

2119
00:59:38,832 --> 00:59:45,739
8th at 7 p.m. in this room. Um,

2120
00:59:42,202 --> 00:59:46,374
anything else from anybody?

2121
00:59:45,839 --> 00:59:47,374
Um.

2122
00:59:46,474 --> 00:59:48,542
I don't have anything either.

2123
00:59:47,474 --> 00:59:50,778
I'll entertain a motion to

2124
00:59:48,642 --> 00:59:51,846
close at 8:03 p.m..

2125
00:59:50,878 --> 00:59:52,713
I'll make a motion to close at

2126
00:59:51,946 --> 00:59:53,814
803.