[0:39] good afternoon everyone I'd like to call to order the
[0:41] July nineteenth twenty twenty hearing of the Guelph committee of
[0:45] adjustment all committee members staff and applicants are attending this
[0:49] electronic hearing remotely this hearing is being held remotely do
[0:53] to cope with nineteen
[0:55] and is being live streamed and recorded please be advised
[0:59] that that public hearings for part of the public record
[1:02] and the words names or images of those participating will
[1:05] be recorded and posted online before we see that access
[1:10] the secretary treasurer to confirm attendance at the committee members
[1:14] by roll call
[1:20] thank you ma'am care
[1:22] member countries has is that he will not be in
[1:24] attendance for the rest of the committee members I will
[1:28] be reading your number your names out loud when you
[1:30] see your name please I'm yourself and risk on present
[1:36] chair ash
[1:44] amber Dykstra
[1:46] I don't believe that is here
[1:53] number can take
[1:54] here
[1:58] number tennis
[2:03] here
[2:06] member meets
[2:11] Jerash is here I don't think we heard it already
[2:15] action action she was talking
[2:18] sh I present
[2:25] and member Smith
[2:28] present
[2:31] thank you it looks like all members are present aside
[2:34] from member Dykstra member country
[2:38] okay then before I get lazy hearing format I wanted
[2:42] to make note that what will be shown on the
[2:44] screen for those viewing at home is a remote hearing
[2:47] platform whereby whoever is speaking will be shown predominately with
[2:52] smaller images of the members and staff attending along the
[2:55] bottom of the screen
[2:57] as you consider each application it will take some time
[3:00] and there and there may be some extent deposits staff
[3:03] in attendance in may need to interrupt the hearing as
[3:06] the need arises so we ask for your patience as
[3:09] we navigate the electronic hearing format the agenda for this
[3:13] hearing has been posted online Act wealth dot CA forward
[3:17] slash CO day
[3:19] if you want to to follow along please feel free
[3:22] to access it now
[3:24] ... you might all committee members staff and applicants participating
[3:28] in the hearing to please mute your microphone when not
[3:31] in use to reduce feedback
[3:34] I also would like to share the hearing format we
[3:37] will be using to navigate through each application each application
[3:41] will be creek called by the secretary treasurer and the
[3:44] applicant will be given an opportunity to add anything further
[3:47] to their application to a maximum of ten minutes if
[3:52] you are an applicant and have nothing further to add
[3:54] then you can simply say so the committee will then
[3:57] be able to ask questions to the applicant or staff
[4:01] after that we will hear from members of the public
[4:04] who wish to comment on the application please note that
[4:07] all comments should be addressed through the chair please avoid
[4:10] repeating concerns already stated by others and focus on adding
[4:14] new information only comments are limited to ten minutes or
[4:18] less any members of the public who have submitted a
[4:21] request to speak prior to the hearing will be the
[4:24] first invited to provide comments by a telephone
[4:28] I've confirmed with the secretary treasurer that there have been
[4:31] no request received prior did started a hearing to speak
[4:34] to any of the applications listed on the agenda
[4:38] we do have a request received into for minor variance
[4:41] application eight twenty two slash twenty for forty five four
[4:46] five five Watson parkway north and this request will be
[4:50] addressed after the opening remarks are concluded for all other
[4:54] applications listed on the agenda no deferral of withdrawal requests
[4:59] were received prior to the start of today's hearing additionally
[5:02] if you wish to speak to an application and have
[5:05] not submitted a request in advance of the hearing you
[5:08] will still be given an opportunity to unity to speak
[5:11] by calling five one nine eight two two one two
[5:15] six zero extension two five two four
[5:19] and you will receive instructions on how to participate for
[5:22] each application following the committee members questions to the applicant
[5:26] or staff and any members of the public who have
[5:29] registered to speak in advance we will take a brief
[5:32] three minute break to display the call in number for
[5:36] any residents wishing to call in
[5:39] once all comments from the public have been heard the
[5:41] applicant or staff will be given the opportunity to respond
[5:45] to comments finally I'll turn to the committee for a
[5:48] motion and deliberation as well as a vote on the
[5:51] application at this hearing is being held remotely there are
[5:55] some procedural changes regarding how the committee will vote because
[6:00] members of the public will be able to see all
[6:03] the members of the committee on the screen at one
[6:05] time when the committee is making a decision on an
[6:08] application I'll be asking the secretary treasurer to conduct the
[6:12] vote by roll call the secretary treasurer we'll call each
[6:16] of the members names and each member will respond if
[6:19] they are in favor or opposed to the motion and
[6:22] I will announce the results of the vote
[6:28] if you wish to receive a copy of the decision
[6:30] on an application including information about the appeal procedure you
[6:34] must submit a written request
[6:37] and it's noted on the screen for you a great
[6:41] request can be made by contacting staff using the contact
[6:44] information shown on the screen
[6:46] receive a copy of the decision please email COA at
[6:51] wealth dot CA with your name and the file number
[6:54] you are interested in please note that owners and applicants
[6:58] automatically receive a copy of the decision
[7:06] at this point I will ask committee members are there
[7:09] any disclosures of pecuniary interest in so please raise your
[7:12] hand
[7:16] seeing none
[7:17] can I now get the members to moved and seconded
[7:20] provable of the minutes from the previous hearing on June
[7:23] eleventh twenty twenty
[7:25] we will travel thank you that was the member Kendrick
[7:30] do I have a second ...
[7:33] back in December okay I saw a member at needs
[7:37] at hand first okay ...
[7:41] and then I'll raise your hands
[7:44] if you're in agreement with that
[7:47] okay the minutes are approved
[7:49] it's carried
[7:52] at this time last the secretary treasurer to curtain for
[7:54] McKinney request was brought for different application has been received
[7:58] from many of the applicants
[8:00] thank you
[8:05] thank you madam chair as noted in the comments package
[8:08] that was posted last Friday I can confirm that we
[8:10] received a deferral request from the applicant for minor variance
[8:14] file eighteen dash twenty two slash twenty four for fifty
[8:18] five Watson parkway north
[8:21] I also want to note that correspondence with receipts after
[8:24] the comment deadline from Amelia or to on better Sarah
[8:28] Bonnen and stuff on lock with concerns about the application
[8:33] this correspondence has been circulated to the applicant staff and
[8:36] the committee members
[8:38] in regards to the deferral request I believe that applicant
[8:41] Joe lactose impressive to address this request
[8:48] thank you committee members can I get a motion to
[8:51] defer if so please raise your hand
[8:57] a motion to have further by member Janice
[9:01] well secondary
[9:04] number meets
[9:06] there's no discussion so all those in favor of the
[9:09] deferral
[9:11] please raise your hands
[9:14] okay the deferral is carried thank you
[9:22] secretary treasurer did you want to record that vote
[9:27] if I could that would be great and I okay
[9:30] the applicant is here and he wants to address that
[9:33] request
[9:51] J. O. and you can and you yourself
[9:56] hello
[9:57] hi junior Cameron
[10:01] okay
[10:05] hello
[10:07] wait there you go
[10:10] if you'd like to address them
[10:14] verification of the motion
[10:16] no not really we're just ... requesting deferral to begins
[10:20] the planning further on the on the site plan application
[10:25] reported to deferred until that matters taken care of
[10:30] okay I will turn it over to the secretary treasurer
[10:33] doubt to folks
[10:38] thank you chair gonna run through the list of the
[10:41] committee members and I'll just ask if you're in favor
[10:44] of the deferral or not
[10:48] share ash
[10:50] through the deferral
[10:54] remember Kendrick
[10:56] they were
[10:59] number Janice
[11:04] in favor
[11:07] number means
[11:12] and member Smith
[11:14] in favor
[11:18] she the motion differ carry
[11:32] so your application has been deferred
[11:35] ... for the applicant I remind you that you're free
[11:37] to leave a hearing if you wish a reminder for
[11:41] members of the public watching the minor variance application for
[11:44] for fifty five Watson parkway north has been deferred back
[11:48] to the committee for consideration at another time
[12:15] never Janice
[12:19] I know that on the request for deferral B. applicant
[12:22] also requested that this be something about the sea I
[12:27] wonder are we going to be discussing this at all
[12:31] I believe that would be addressed at the when it
[12:34] comes back
[12:35] to us
[12:40] that's correct share will address that request when the application
[12:44] comes back so we can make sure that request is
[12:47] on the agenda
[13:09] the next application is filed eight dash twenty eight slash
[13:12] twenty
[13:14] side yard setback variance for proposed accessory structure detached garage
[13:18] at one hundred Fleming road
[13:23] with the applicant or applicants are present if so can
[13:26] you please state your name and your relationship to the
[13:28] application
[13:32] my name is ray Arsenio and I am the owner
[13:36] thank you
[13:40] hi with the site posted as per the planning act
[13:43] requirements yes it was and did you receive staff comments
[13:47] yes I did
[13:49] do you wish to add anything further to your application
[13:52] I I would like to if that's okay okay and
[13:55] you have up to ten minutes to address committee
[13:58] ... I I noticed on the road one of the
[14:01] recommendations I believe it came from engineering and it was
[14:05] pertaining to the drive way that it shows on the
[14:06] drawing ... my wife and I have decided not to
[14:10] put a driveway ... at the side of the house
[14:14] ... so I'm asking if that recommendation can be ...
[14:18] but maybe revolves to removed and you know it maybe
[14:22] in a year from now if we decide that we
[14:24] want to put that ... driveway in an Odyssey we
[14:28] would follow that recommendation and apply for the Kerr cutting
[14:31] permit and pay the associated fees that were made I
[14:36] I think it's the city what other not that's that's
[14:39] all have
[14:41] Preston
[14:43] can you answer that
[14:45] yes three chair yeah that's fine the the reason for
[14:48] this condition was that the site plan drawings showed the
[14:52] new access as well as they showed that that should
[14:57] or will be used as a garage one point ...
[15:00] so that's why those conditions were put in but if
[15:02] that's not the intent to of of the applicant in
[15:05] those conditions can be removed
[15:09] that's great
[15:11] okay so that's conditions 2 and 3
[15:14] I believe so yes thank you okay
[15:18] 
[15:20] committee members give any questions for the applicant or stuff
[15:22] yes committee member Smith
[15:27] three you'd share to staff I just want a little
[15:31] clarity on the zoning ... if this was an attached
[15:36] garage
[15:37] what we are with a set back a one point
[15:41] five meters ... the secession or is it just us
[15:48] it seems to me that are
[15:51] it seems that
[15:53] we have no issue you have no issues with the
[15:57] I'm just curious if
[15:59] one point five meters would be ... sufficient which wasn't
[16:02] much ...
[16:07] through the chair that this is a little bit of
[16:09] a different situation because the property is actually zoned urban
[16:12] lancer ... and urban reserve ... is someone I've been
[16:17] in terms of will and ... there are some lands
[16:19] in the city that are still zoned urban reserve and
[16:22] they were put in that zoning category back in nineteen
[16:25] ninety five when the zoning bylaw is complacent oftentimes it
[16:28] was because there is an insufficient information at the time
[16:31] to put men appropriate zoning category ... or their lands
[16:36] without municipal services so if if this property was actually
[16:39] is ... and like a residential so like an R.
[16:42] one and B. or C. it that and it was
[16:46] an attached garage it would just be a requirement the
[16:48] setback for there's only so safe it was an R.
[16:50] one B. ... it would be a one point five
[16:53] meter step back if it was attached if it wasn't
[16:56] if in a residential zone accessory buildings or structures are
[17:00] only required if they are detached ...
[17:04] wait six meters from a lot line so it's because
[17:08] of the urban reserve zone which is why the
[17:12] bear setback is required
[17:18] thank you I'm doing
[17:21] are there any other questions from committee members
[17:28] okay
[17:32] ... if the door other further questions I'll ask for
[17:34] comments from members of the public as noted at the
[17:37] start of the hearing we have not received any request
[17:39] from the public to speak to this application in advance
[17:42] of the here
[17:44] before moving into bait to debate and discussion we will
[17:47] take a three minute break so many members of the
[17:49] public watching from home who wish to speak to this
[17:52] application which is file number
[17:57] 828 slash 20
[17:59] so you can call then I does that all hearing
[18:02] participants ensure that your microphones are muted during the break
[18:06] thank you
[21:28] through the chair I can confirm that we didn't receive
[21:30] any delegation requests
[21:33] thank you very much the committee will now begin to
[21:36] discuss the application to make a decision but this point
[21:39] there are no further questions or discussions with the applicant
[21:42] did those in attendance committee members do you wish to
[21:45] make a motion so please raise your hand
[21:49] yes member Kendrick
[21:52] what was conditions
[21:55] I think there is some discussion
[21:57] with respect to conditions 2 and 3
[22:01] delete conditions to ensure it is time
[22:05] Dr seconded that motion
[22:12] sorry I
[22:14] okay thank you member needs I didn't see year on
[22:17] the second screen here
[22:19] okay then
[22:35] is there any did okay sorry member Smith is there
[22:37] any discussion on the motion yes
[22:43] you have to admit yourself sorry I had double needed
[22:46] it ... I just have a question about deleting those
[22:50] two conditions fully I'm wondering if it be more appropriate
[22:54] to amend them so that ... it would read in
[22:59] engineering services are comment number three take away the word
[23:04] prior and ... change it to something like
[23:10] at the time of application for a building permit as
[23:14] I I'm I'm just fearful that if we take away
[23:16] that condition than ... and maybe staff can comment on
[23:21] this ...
[23:23] it might need the City liable to make that Herb
[23:27] **** at the city's expense
[23:32] do you have a comment from staff
[23:34] through you chair arm no I don't think I would
[23:37] be required because if it were to come in for
[23:42] a carp caught or engines Clement we have a separate
[23:45] entrance permit that
[23:47] residents can apply for so
[23:50] they will be applicant ... at that time would be
[23:54] paying for that cost
[23:59] so I I don't think it's needed if the intent
[24:01] is not to construct the driver right now I don't
[24:04] think it's needed
[24:07] thank you
[24:10] okay so we have a motion on the floor with
[24:12] that and we have a
[24:15] motion is made in the cells have been seconded any
[24:17] bad anyone else further discussion on the motion
[24:22] I know as the secretary treasurer to conduct a vote
[24:25] by roll call
[24:31] thank you and I'm chair committee members I'll be reading
[24:33] your names out loud when you hear your name please
[24:36] I'm you yourself and indicate your vote by responding with
[24:39] the words in favor or opposed to indicate your vote
[24:42] on the motion which has to approve with the US
[24:46] one soul condition
[24:50] it's chair ash in favor
[24:54] each member Kendrick in favor
[24:59] member Janice
[25:02] in favor
[25:04] member meets
[25:07] and member Smith in favor
[25:10] she
[25:11] the motion to approve what that one condition carries
[25:19] it's carried your application has been approved with the one
[25:22] condition the applicant I remind you that you're free to
[25:25] leave a hearing if you flash
[25:28] a reminder for those watching if you wish to receive
[25:31] a copy of that decision on an application including information
[25:35] about the appeal procedure you must submit a written request
[25:38] by emailing CNA at Walt dot CA with your name
[25:42] and the file number you're interested in please note that
[25:46] owners an applicant's automatically receive a copy of the decision
[26:14] the next applications are filed B. dash six slash twenty
[26:18] eight twenty nine twenty in a thirty five twenty or
[26:23] twenty five to twenty seven Greenstreet consent to create a
[26:26] new residential lot and variances to permit reduced lot area
[26:29] and front yard setbacks for the severed and retain parcels
[26:35] thank you I'd like to ask that the applicant or
[26:37] applicants are present if so can you please state your
[26:40] name and your relationship to the application
[26:48] yes my coming for
[26:52] yes
[26:54] I thank you handy thank you good afternoon good afternoon
[26:58] madam chair
[27:00] what
[27:01] yes I just get the site posted on the property
[27:04] as per the planning act requirements yes it was it
[27:08] did you receive staff comments
[27:10] we did
[27:12] add to which had anything for the application and if
[27:15] so you have ten minutes
[27:17] yes thank you I'd like to make a just some
[27:20] brief comments on the application
[27:22] I thank you madam chair members of the committee ...
[27:26] staff and those attending virtually this is an interesting way
[27:30] of doing ... meetings and we appreciate that in the
[27:34] consulting world to move applications along
[27:37] again my name is Hugh Hanna planner with GSP group
[27:41] I'm also joined virtually by a cerakote it was a
[27:45] planner ... that has been working with me on the
[27:47] file
[27:48] our clients ... Zhejiang and Jim to sake ... I
[27:52] think we'll be out in the virtual world maybe also
[27:55] watching this today
[27:57] German ... Jeff and Jim are active developers and builders
[28:00] in the area currently they're involved in the call project
[28:04] in house for which is a condominium development on the
[28:07] on the outskirts of hospital Jim the sappy ... and
[28:09] his wife wrote while offering ... have owned this property
[28:14] since nineteen ninety four and now wish to create a
[28:16] new law under which street for the proposed single detached
[28:19] dwelling
[28:21] and the retained a lot with the existing stone home
[28:26] historically there was a six plex on this property more
[28:29] recently the six Bucks was converted and refurbished to the
[28:32] semi detached which is on green
[28:36] while building plans have not been finalized care has been
[28:39] taken ... inciting the new proposed single detached homes are
[28:44] to be in the same building line with the existing
[28:47] homes on Norwich and will also intended to have a
[28:51] covered porch
[28:53] further the detached garage on the severed will also allow
[28:57] ample off street parking and create a nice courtyard effect
[29:01] ... which we believe in the in the backyard space
[29:05] we believe this is a modest infill development and as
[29:08] appropriate and this has been tried to be sensitive to
[29:12] the neighbourhood it is proposed within
[29:15] the existing home ... is intended to be converted to
[29:19] a single detached dwelling us for the overall redevelopment of
[29:23] the property
[29:25] we have worked closely with planning and engineering staff at
[29:28] the city to bring these applications forward we thank them
[29:32] for their assistance ... as well as Tristan one and
[29:37] leading up to this to this hearing today we have
[29:40] reviewed the staff report and requested conditions with our clients
[29:45] and our encouragement with those that are are printed and
[29:48] before you this afternoon
[29:51] we look for the support of the committee this afternoon
[29:54] on the requested consent and associated variances and if you
[29:57] have any questions I believe Serra is also on here
[30:02] in able to answer anything if
[30:06] can he so desires thank you
[30:09] thank you for your presentation
[30:12] committee members do you have any questions for the applicant
[30:15] is so please raise your hand
[30:21] okay
[30:24] any questions for staff
[30:27] okay
[30:29] if there's no further questions I'll ask for comments from
[30:31] members of the public as noted at the start of
[30:34] the hearing we have not received any cut request for
[30:36] the public to speak to this application in advance of
[30:39] the hearing
[30:40] before moving into debate and discussion will take a three
[30:44] minute break so many any members of the public watching
[30:47] from home who wish to speak to this application which
[30:50] is file numbers B. twenty six slash twenty eight twenty
[30:54] nine size twenty and eighty thirty slash twenty can call
[30:58] in
[31:00] I'd ask that all hearing participants insure that your microphones
[31:02] are muted during this break thank you
[34:31] chair ash I can confirm we didn't receive any delegation
[34:34] requests
[34:37] thank you very much
[34:39] the committee will now begin to discuss the application and
[34:41] make a decision at this point there are no further
[34:44] questions or discussions with the applicant or those in attendance
[34:48] committee members do you wish to make a motion so
[34:50] please raise your hands
[34:53] committee member Anna Smith
[34:56] I'll move with additions
[35:00] okay do I have a second finance
[35:06] committee member Janice okay great
[35:10] I any discussion on the motion
[35:17] okay I will I'm
[35:22] I will now ask the secretary treasurer to conduct the
[35:25] vote by roll call
[35:33] thank you chair committee members I'll be reading your names
[35:36] out loud when you hear your name please I mean
[35:38] yourself and indicate your vote by responding with the words
[35:41] in favor or opposed to indicate your vote on the
[35:44] motion which is to approve with conditions and this is
[35:48] as far as I'm aware approving all three conditions the
[35:51] consent application as well as the two related minor variance
[35:54] applications
[35:57] sh
[35:59] chair ash
[36:00] what conditions
[36:04] she member Kendrick approval
[36:08] number Janice
[36:10] approval
[36:12] member means
[36:16] and member Smith
[36:19] approval
[36:21] she the motion to approve with conditions carries thank you
[36:27] thank you very much Mr Hendy eight ... that's carried
[36:31] your application's been approved ... and if you would like
[36:35] to leave the meeting right now recently thank you thank
[36:39] you very much I'm chair members of the committee thank
[36:42] you thank you
[36:44] I'm not a reminder for those watching if you wish
[36:46] to receive a copy of the decision on an application
[36:50] including information about the appeal procedures you must submit a
[36:53] written request by emailing CNA Act wealth dot CA
[36:59] C. A. with your name and the file number you're
[37:01] interested in please note that owners an applicant automatically receive
[37:05] a copy of the decision thank you
[37:20] the secretary treasurer to address any staff announcements
[37:28] thank you chair I can confirm that we don't have
[37:30] any staff announcements at this time
[37:34] excellent thank you can I get members so it's been
[37:37] moved and seconded German of the hearing if so please
[37:39] raise your hands
[37:42] moved by member Janice Davis second ... moved by member
[37:46] meets
[37:48] and ... just making sure I'm doing this right all
[37:51] those in favor journey please raise your hands
[37:55] I'm supposed to count hands we have a wide two
[37:57] three four five if I
[38:01] okay this hearing is adjourned we'll see you next month
[38:05] thank you guys
[38:07] thank you have a good day