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>> Okay. I call this Historic Preservation

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Commission meeting
uh to order on Monday, March 2nd, 2026

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at 5:30 p.m.
Are there any public comments?

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» Nope.
Okay. Approval of previous minutes from

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the regular meeting of February 2nd,
2026.

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If you want, we could probably table
that till next time. So we have at least

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four people that were here to approve
it. Yeah. So I'll just put it on next

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agenda.
Number four, then HPC application number

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26-00004,

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excuse [clears throat] me, discussion
and potential action on a request for a

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new door on the front of the building
for the second floor access and new door

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on the rear of the building for a
building located at 111 East Oklahoma

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Avenue.
Staff report.

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» Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, as
indicated, this is a request for a front

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and a rear door. Uh this is at the
Terara Rosa uh art uh art studio on uh

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East Oklahoma. Uh maybe some had
noticed, maybe hadn't noticed, but on

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the side of the building there was a
door there that has access to the upper

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floor and then on the rear of the
building there is a exterior access uh

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to go uh on the fire escape and down. Uh
the owner has been doing renovations

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inside and at this point is looking to
have both doors replaced

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uh in that he had provided uh what the
front door and the rear back door would

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be as well as the colors which would be
similar to what he already has for his

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signage in that it's the very bottom
one. Yeah, the 1302.

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» Yeah, it's there now. Uh in that. So
with that, I give it back to the

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commission. Uh the applicant is here if
you have any questions of him.

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» Mr. Beonus, do you have anything you'd
like to say to us or are there any

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comments or questions?
>> I think that's a great choice and it

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looks good.
>> Yeah, there's one across the street

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that's got the same.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Good.

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» A motion to uh approve.
>> Motion by Lisa.

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» Second.
>> Second by Nathan. All right.

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Lisa Kennedy,
>> yes.

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» Nathan Turner,
>> yes.

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» Carol McPeek,
>> yes.

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» And Valerie Duncan,
>> yes.

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» All right. 40. Perfect.

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» Okay. Okay. Uh, item number five, HPC
application number 25-00008,

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discussion and potential action on an
expired approved minimum maintenance

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plan and new colors for existing
canopies for a building located at 2024

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West Harrison Avenue. The blue bell
staff report.

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» Thank you, Madam Chair. Um
the applicant was here uh the last

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meeting for uh one of the buildings
across the street and during those

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conversations it was suggested that we
put this back on the agenda to review

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again. The applicant has been working uh
diligently on the building and has had

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uh made significant improvements. uh as
you indicated with your intro, the plan

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is actually, you know, uh in violation
because it's expired. So, uh this is

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opportunity where the
uh commission could give an extension or

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take into account what's being done and
given an extension so he can uh finish

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that up. But also in talking with the
applicant, uh originally when he did the

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paint that was approved for the
building, uh they were going to leave

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the canopies, uh the blue that they
were, uh since that time they would like

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to change those colors. And so they
provided some samples of the coloring

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that they would like to utilize. Uh
there was kind of the the brownish I

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guess uh uh that was with the doors, the
kind of yellowish and then another u I'm

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not good with colors, but it's the
cherrywood. Anyway, you saw the and then

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a lighter color uh at the back. Uh so
again, those are the items that are

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forth and in your packet. uh did provide
all of the pictures that the applicant

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had provided showing the be before and
after uh improvements. So with that,

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I'll give it back to the commission and
obviously the applicant's here to answer

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any questions.
>> Mr. L.

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» Okay. So the only way that
the only change you want to make at this

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point then is to change the color of the
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» Yes. Um, we had it that we weren't going
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they're not peeling or anything, but
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said, "Oh, everything's looking great.
What color are you going to paint the

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awning?" So, [laughter] I think I don't
think we could leave it with the current

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blue. And you did approve originally,
and we had spoken with Aaron Green. I

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had kind of directed, oh, it look cool
if it was uh canvas. When I talked to

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people about it, they didn't like that
idea. Most of the people I know I'm just

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pulling people on the street um just cuz
they are not canvas um and the colors

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that are there they weren't sure some
people that were really good with colors

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um Van French used to work in paint and
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and so I was kind of leaning towards um
either the gold or the um dark brick

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color um that I showed on I think that's
in your materials um or we have the dark

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wood color would look rich as well, but
I think it might be too redundant of

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what we did on the trim. Like we want it
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thinking of maybe the gold if you guys
were in agreement with that. Yeah.

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» Kind of the same gold that we used on
the um trim.

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» Yeah, I think it was the second sample
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gold.
I didn't put it up on there, but it's I

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color once you tested it out, it didn't
it wasn't what you thought. Well, when

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we got the other colors on there, it we
weren't really wild about the um first

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first of all, and there was a lot of
street construction, but even as we

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painted, we started noticing and on the
Victor as well, just dust accumulation

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and what it looks like. And that light
beige I don't think would season well.

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Like I started looking at other people
even with lighter color awnings in other

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cities and things and they just always
look dirty and dilapitated and I just

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thought the darker colors would
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» This color right here right
>> I got to armor up. I'm really sorry you

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guys.
>> Yeah, that's the wood one. Correct. Oh

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no.
>> Put the glass.

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» Is this the color that you're
>> Which color was that one?

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» Gold.
Back in the day, I could have seen it

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from here, but yeah.
>> Okay. And that's the only significant

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change then.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Everything else I I want to

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kind of continue with what I think we
planned and I like it. The upper windows

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are more difficult than we thought, but
um I still like the brown and gold and

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we tested one and you could see it. We
were kind of questioning if you'd even

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see the gold and is it worth all the
handwork and you really can. So, I think

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we we're happy with everything else.
Well, I really like the green so far. I

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think it looks
>> good. Thank you.

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» I know. I was going to commend you for
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» Oh, thank you.
>> Very nice.

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» Thank you.
>> So, you decided against the canvas,

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though, and you're thinking going more
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these colors.
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» And that's where we're leaning the most
towards the gold um that you see in in

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that packet.

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And if I had more time, that little
black square would have shown you it in

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application, but I think you could
picture. Yeah. [snorts]

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» Didn't make a motion.
>> Make a motion we accept the color

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change.
>> Okay. Are you going to take any action

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on the minimum maintenance plan?

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What action would that be?
>> Well, to basically take it out of

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violation and and give it a uh date cuz
currently because he didn't meet his six

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uh month period, what was it last year
in that it's been in violation. So, he's

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been receiving citations due to a
minimum maintenance plan not being uh

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valid. So if the commission if you want
to give an extension to say we'll give

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you we'll you know give you another 30
days to finish it or 60 days or

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something like that. That way it takes
him out of a

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» violation. Let's treat these as two
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» Yeah. No, that's Yeah, I agree. I just
didn't know if that was going to be the

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only action. Yeah.
>> So if you want to deal with the colors

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right now understood. Perfect.
>> Then we'll address that next.

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» Thank you. Okay. So, we had a motion by
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was there who was the second? Oh, Lisa.
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All right. Yeah. And this is for the
color for the gold that was provided

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within the uh packet. All right. So,
hold on here. Make my notes.

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All right. Lisa Kennedy,
>> yes.

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» Nathan Turner,
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» Carol McPeek,
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» And Valerie Duncan,
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» Okay. So, we got an approval for the go
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» Okay. Under the same item number, now we
uh discuss potential action on the U

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minimum maintenance plan.

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How's it going? How's the project going?
It painting and stuff like that. Yeah,

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it we are making progress. It hit
everything and and um I've talked to a

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couple people already about catch it
early, don't wait. Um just because it's

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it's not just a paint job, it's a
rebuild job. Um yeah, the seconds story

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windows were a beast, too. Um just like
the tin was. Um, some areas have been

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great, some have been difficult, but
what I tried to do,

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um, this month is do a little bit of
everything so that I would know

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realistically what we're looking at. Um,
tuck pointing. Um, I was able to do some

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of it. I did about five areas. I still
indicated about 55 other areas that I

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need to do. Um, the windows I tried to
do from the inside like I did over at

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the lints, which I had to do from the
inside because of the power lines. This

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was easier to do from the outside. Um uh
and now we've gotten a second um

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scaffolding set as well. So we'll be
able to work to it because I also have

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60 days to finish the uh firehouse. So I
I don't want to be compliant here and

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not compliant there. So it's moving
along better, but um with 30 windows to

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do upstairs because they do go all the
way around the the window. I see about

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30 days of work there. Um, and then
about 50 days to do the

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um, talk pointing. Although I am talking
to people to see if I can get somebody

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to do it faster. So, so far we've had
difficulty.

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If anybody's watching and can do that,
call me.

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» Did you say,
>> pardon me?

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» Did you say 50 days?
>> Yes. Yeah. Because we have to actually

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get and a lot of those are by wires and
things like that. So, we actually have

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to do it from the scaffolding and move
it around or we're going to have to rent

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a truck and but it's still up through
wires. There's uh cables that hold up a

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pole in front of the building and
there's wires down the alley and there's

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Yeah. So, there's difficulty to get to.
It's not just around the base where I'm

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counting the whole building. Yeah.
That's the backside that you can't see

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as well over the rooftop. Um
and yeah, that's it. And then we'll have

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to paint the awning now. But that's, you
know, that's not a big task

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cuz that's prepped. That's just we have
to roll.

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» I'm trying to remember the brick
pointing was originally a part of this

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minimum maintenance plan.
>> Yes. Well,

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» facade.
>> Yeah. On on the facade there was some

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fixing of the but I think as Mr. lad
indicated there was more than what was

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realized initially.
>> I I indicated it in there. Um I was the

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one that blew the whistle on that. There
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several places that really need
attention but to hit the whole building.

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That's the the that's what I would be
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» So you're asking
>> So like if I'm pushing things so they're

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not my problem again, like at least the
building will stand for 15 to 20 years

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and now it's somebody else's problem. I
would address them all. If we're just

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trying to take it out of minimum
maintenance, then I could maybe cut that

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down to 10 days and we'll just hit the
parts that really need it. But there are

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some that I'm sure if you came and saw
the building, you'd go, "Yeah, you need

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to handle."
>> So basically, you're asking for a 90day

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for 90 days.
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» Why do you want to focus on the paint
and changing the paint? Because I don't

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necessarily feel that the paint is a
problem instead of focusing on the

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minimum maintenance to get that off your
back before changing the colors.

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And again that was just because once
we're done with this I even though yeah

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it's not part of the minimum maintenance
to paint that we have finished

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everything else other than that and it
that wouldn't add greatly to the you

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know we have three awnings to or four
awnings to paint. So that wouldn't add

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greatly to it. It's the the windows
again isn't painting the windows. It's

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rebuilding the windows. The scaffolding
is a paint job. So, you don't feel like

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paint redoing the paint on this would
take time or money per se?

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» It it will take it will add time and
money to the project, but um at least

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and again, it's not necessarily part of
this, but I sure would like to get it

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done. And by fixing this, one of the
benefits is I have a renter. We've had

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the second meeting or a potential renter
and they're really wanting to do it. So,

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I want to give them everything they need
to to be successful. So, I'd like to

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paint it if I can.
>> So, if I was in your shoes, I would

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really focus on the minimum maintenance
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because your renters are going to be
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» Yeah.
>> And it's going to save you some time and

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money to be able to focus on that as
opposed to changing the colors.

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» And we could I mean, you've approved it
now, so I think you have six months. So,

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I Yeah, I could definitely jump across
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I I also want to get to the Victor, too.
So, yeah.

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So, [snorts]
>> so that's true.

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» You're basically asking then for another
90 days

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» and um I certainly am sympathetic with
the idea that these jobs turn out to be

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so much more than anybody expects them
to. I own a historic home so I know

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that.
>> But there also has to come a point where

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we quit giving extensions.
And I want you to think really hard. Is

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90 days reasonable? because if I vote to
give you a 90-day extension on this, I

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will not ever vote to do it again in the
future.

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» So, I'm just warning you about that.
>> Yeah. And and

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it is difficult because, you know, like
even during this time period, we got all

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the scaffolding set up and everything
else and then we got 23 mph winds and

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you can't be on scaffolding um in 23
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» I sympathize with that. That's awesome.
>> So, I that's the only X factor I have.

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like I do I did test it and that's why I
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lotment of days. Um and that didn't
include painting the scaffolding. That

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would just be you know but you know
you're at 85 days just on the the tuck

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point and finish the windows. Um but
you're right if there's winds, if

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there's rain, those hold us back. It's
not that we don't work. Those are good

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days that we can go and be shopping
products and things that we need to do

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and fixing. you know, we had heat and
air and everything else that you have to

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do just being a building owner in other
places. But, um, I think if if I do

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believe that that's a realistic time
frame, number of work days now, in that

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I think it'll take 85 days and I feel
comfortable with that. That only gives

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us 5 days of mess up on a 90-day
extension. That's tight. Um, you know,

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that means we got to double up or hire
people if we see rain or, you know, we

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we got to get think more things going.
So, would I feel better with an extra 30

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to be protected? Definitely. You know,
but um it's Oklahoma, so you we never

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It's It's been kind of gorgeous for for
a while, so you know, it's hard to tell,

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you know. But I have a jacket on today
and had a t-shirt on two days ago. So,

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» have we approved two extensions so far,
Dan?

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» Yes.

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» Yes. If I uh cuz I had it written down.

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» Do I hear any discussion?
>> Yeah, but I think there were there were

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two
>> there were two extensions.

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» I do have a question just cuz I've been
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of people. Now, um I do need to come
back in 60 days on the far house. Is it

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possible to just give me an extension by
there and and give an update on where

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we're at and we'd know what I got done
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» the request that again? I'm not sure I
understood what you're saying.

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» Yeah. And if I can, I think he was
saying just give him 60 days now and

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then this will be back on the agenda
when the firehouse is on the agenda. And

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so it' be kind of an update and if more
time is needed at that point. Am I

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correct?
>> Yes. because then I could

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» just giving you 90 or 120 days
>> because I would even know better by

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then. Like that's kind of halfway
probably through a realistic deadline,

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but I would I understand like I'd be
pushing pedal the metal and I have to

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get the firehouse done by then. So I
we're all here again. Maybe if you know

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I just had an extension and table it
till then to

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» if I were in your shoes.
>> Mhm.

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» I would ask for the 90 days that you
just have said that you're reasonably

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sure that it's going to take because as
I said if you come back in 60 days and

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we've given you an extension for 60 days
and you're not done, I'm not voting to

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give you an extension again. I can't
speak for anybody else on the

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commission. But if you if you think it's
going to take 90 days, then I really

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think that's what you need to ask for.
>> Okay. Well, again, I think I think it'll

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take 85 days of work. So, you know, if
we I I if if I was going to ask like

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that and the point of no return and I'm
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120 because that gives me 30 days of
wind and rain and things like that. And

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I can almost guarantee we'll have 30
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» so the question I think
>> Yeah. So, I wasn't saying I'd get it

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done in 60. I was just saying, you know,
maybe we can I I'd have a better update

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by then on I I will have done more
windows and more tuck pointing and talk

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to people by then. So,
>> so if I'm not mistaken this, then

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he's asking that we give him a 90-day
extension on the blue belt. And we're

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not talking about the the fire station
at this time.

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» No, that's correct because that's Yeah,
that's already coming back.

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» Finish the maintenance.
>> So, I guess that's the question that's

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in front of us right now. This is
something that we want to do.

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I'm my inclination is to grant the 90
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done up to this point, but I'm going to
be uh I mean y'all we can discuss that

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uh because there's been a lot of
progress. There's been a lot done to the

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building and I'm incredibly happy to see
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» Um, but to your point, Valerie, I think
we we've got to have a a hard deadline

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on
>> I would make the motion that we approve

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90 days

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extension.
>> Are you good with that?

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» Um, [clears throat]
we have all got a vote.

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» Do I hear
>> you feel 90 days?

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» Is there a formal second?
>> You feel you can be done in 90 days?

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I I I told you I could do it in 85 days
and I'm that will mean five days of

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rain, but I Yeah, I can I'm I don't have
much choice. So,

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» and holding off on the paint, you don't
feel like that would

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» I'll hold off on that. Yeah,
>> I would hold off on the paint.

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» We won't add that to the bucket. I'm
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» get these fines off if you get done what
needs to be done.

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» Okay.
>> The paint is cosmetic. Yeah.

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» You can always Your renters are going to
be happy.

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» Yep. Yep.
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» yeah. Yeah. So, we had a motion by uh
Nathan and a second by Carol to give a n

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90day extension and or completion of the
minimum maintenance plan.

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» So, Lisa Kennedy,
>> yes.

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» Nathan Turner,
>> yes.

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» Carol McPeek,
>> yes.

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» And Valerie Duncan, [clears throat]
>> yes.

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» All right. 40.

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» I will say you've made great progress.
Thank you.

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» I am very, like I said, I'm very excited
to see this much being done.

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» Thank you. Well, if you need to ask me
any other questions, I'll be on

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scaffolding for [laughter]
No, I'm kidding. Thank you very much.

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» I know it's a lot.
>> Thank you.

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» Okay. Are there any staff comments?
>> None. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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» Any commissioner comments?
>> No. Well, then this meeting is journed.