[0:00] Yep.
>> Okay. I call this Historic Preservation
[0:03] Commission meeting
uh to order on Monday, March 2nd, 2026
[0:10] at 5:30 p.m.
Are there any public comments?
[0:18] » Nope.
Okay. Approval of previous minutes from
[0:22] the regular meeting of February 2nd,
2026.
[0:26] If you want, we could probably table
that till next time. So we have at least
[0:30] four people that were here to approve
it. Yeah. So I'll just put it on next
[0:34] agenda.
Number four, then HPC application number
[0:40] 26-00004,
[0:43] excuse [clears throat] me, discussion
and potential action on a request for a
[0:48] new door on the front of the building
for the second floor access and new door
[0:53] on the rear of the building for a
building located at 111 East Oklahoma
[0:58] Avenue.
Staff report.
[1:00] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, as
indicated, this is a request for a front
[1:04] and a rear door. Uh this is at the
Terara Rosa uh art uh art studio on uh
[1:11] East Oklahoma. Uh maybe some had
noticed, maybe hadn't noticed, but on
[1:16] the side of the building there was a
door there that has access to the upper
[1:20] floor and then on the rear of the
building there is a exterior access uh
[1:26] to go uh on the fire escape and down. Uh
the owner has been doing renovations
[1:32] inside and at this point is looking to
have both doors replaced
[1:38] uh in that he had provided uh what the
front door and the rear back door would
[1:43] be as well as the colors which would be
similar to what he already has for his
[1:48] signage in that it's the very bottom
one. Yeah, the 1302.
[1:54] » Yeah, it's there now. Uh in that. So
with that, I give it back to the
[1:58] commission. Uh the applicant is here if
you have any questions of him.
[2:02] » Mr. Beonus, do you have anything you'd
like to say to us or are there any
[2:07] comments or questions?
>> I think that's a great choice and it
[2:12] looks good.
>> Yeah, there's one across the street
[2:14] that's got the same.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Good.
[2:19] » A motion to uh approve.
>> Motion by Lisa.
[2:23] » Second.
>> Second by Nathan. All right.
[2:27] Lisa Kennedy,
>> yes.
[2:30] » Nathan Turner,
>> yes.
[2:31] » Carol McPeek,
>> yes.
[2:33] » And Valerie Duncan,
>> yes.
[2:35] » All right. 40. Perfect.
[2:43] » Okay. Okay. Uh, item number five, HPC
application number 25-00008,
[2:50] discussion and potential action on an
expired approved minimum maintenance
[2:55] plan and new colors for existing
canopies for a building located at 2024
[3:00] West Harrison Avenue. The blue bell
staff report.
[3:04] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Um
the applicant was here uh the last
[3:09] meeting for uh one of the buildings
across the street and during those
[3:14] conversations it was suggested that we
put this back on the agenda to review
[3:19] again. The applicant has been working uh
diligently on the building and has had
[3:25] uh made significant improvements. uh as
you indicated with your intro, the plan
[3:31] is actually, you know, uh in violation
because it's expired. So, uh this is
[3:37] opportunity where the
uh commission could give an extension or
[3:43] take into account what's being done and
given an extension so he can uh finish
[3:47] that up. But also in talking with the
applicant, uh originally when he did the
[3:53] paint that was approved for the
building, uh they were going to leave
[3:56] the canopies, uh the blue that they
were, uh since that time they would like
[4:01] to change those colors. And so they
provided some samples of the coloring
[4:06] that they would like to utilize. Uh
there was kind of the the brownish I
[4:13] guess uh uh that was with the doors, the
kind of yellowish and then another u I'm
[4:20] not good with colors, but it's the
cherrywood. Anyway, you saw the and then
[4:23] a lighter color uh at the back. Uh so
again, those are the items that are
[4:30] forth and in your packet. uh did provide
all of the pictures that the applicant
[4:34] had provided showing the be before and
after uh improvements. So with that,
[4:40] I'll give it back to the commission and
obviously the applicant's here to answer
[4:43] any questions.
>> Mr. L.
[4:47] » Okay. So the only way that
the only change you want to make at this
[4:52] point then is to change the color of the
awnings.
[4:56] » Yes. Um, we had it that we weren't going
to paint it just because of time and
[5:01] they're not peeling or anything, but
>> almost everybody that goes by, they
[5:06] said, "Oh, everything's looking great.
What color are you going to paint the
[5:08] awning?" So, [laughter] I think I don't
think we could leave it with the current
[5:13] blue. And you did approve originally,
and we had spoken with Aaron Green. I
[5:17] had kind of directed, oh, it look cool
if it was uh canvas. When I talked to
[5:21] people about it, they didn't like that
idea. Most of the people I know I'm just
[5:25] pulling people on the street um just cuz
they are not canvas um and the colors
[5:31] that are there they weren't sure some
people that were really good with colors
[5:35] um Van French used to work in paint and
he said [laughter]
[5:41] and so I was kind of leaning towards um
either the gold or the um dark brick
[5:47] color um that I showed on I think that's
in your materials um or we have the dark
[5:54] wood color would look rich as well, but
I think it might be too redundant of
[5:58] what we did on the trim. Like we want it
to look different and that's why we were
[6:02] thinking of maybe the gold if you guys
were in agreement with that. Yeah.
[6:08] » Kind of the same gold that we used on
the um trim.
[6:12] » Yeah, I think it was the second sample
that was in there. I assume that was the
[6:16] gold.
I didn't put it up on there, but it's I
[6:20] think
>> And it says that the original paint
[6:24] color once you tested it out, it didn't
it wasn't what you thought. Well, when
[6:31] we got the other colors on there, it we
weren't really wild about the um first
[6:37] first of all, and there was a lot of
street construction, but even as we
[6:41] painted, we started noticing and on the
Victor as well, just dust accumulation
[6:45] and what it looks like. And that light
beige I don't think would season well.
[6:51] Like I started looking at other people
even with lighter color awnings in other
[6:55] cities and things and they just always
look dirty and dilapitated and I just
[6:59] thought the darker colors would
>> weather better.
[7:03] » This color right here right
>> I got to armor up. I'm really sorry you
[7:08] guys.
>> Yeah, that's the wood one. Correct. Oh
[7:10] no.
>> Put the glass.
[7:12] » Is this the color that you're
>> Which color was that one?
[7:17] » Gold.
Back in the day, I could have seen it
[7:19] from here, but yeah.
>> Okay. And that's the only significant
[7:24] change then.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Everything else I I want to
[7:28] kind of continue with what I think we
planned and I like it. The upper windows
[7:33] are more difficult than we thought, but
um I still like the brown and gold and
[7:37] we tested one and you could see it. We
were kind of questioning if you'd even
[7:40] see the gold and is it worth all the
handwork and you really can. So, I think
[7:45] we we're happy with everything else.
Well, I really like the green so far. I
[7:49] think it looks
>> good. Thank you.
[7:50] » I know. I was going to commend you for
that. It It really looks good.
[7:53] » Oh, thank you.
>> Very nice.
[7:55] » Thank you.
>> So, you decided against the canvas,
[7:57] though, and you're thinking going more
along the lines of painting it one of
[8:00] these colors.
>> Yes.
[8:04] » And that's where we're leaning the most
towards the gold um that you see in in
[8:10] that packet.
[8:17] And if I had more time, that little
black square would have shown you it in
[8:21] application, but I think you could
picture. Yeah. [snorts]
[8:27] » Didn't make a motion.
>> Make a motion we accept the color
[8:31] change.
>> Okay. Are you going to take any action
[8:36] on the minimum maintenance plan?
[8:43] What action would that be?
>> Well, to basically take it out of
[8:46] violation and and give it a uh date cuz
currently because he didn't meet his six
[8:54] uh month period, what was it last year
in that it's been in violation. So, he's
[9:02] been receiving citations due to a
minimum maintenance plan not being uh
[9:07] valid. So if the commission if you want
to give an extension to say we'll give
[9:14] you we'll you know give you another 30
days to finish it or 60 days or
[9:19] something like that. That way it takes
him out of a
[9:22] » violation. Let's treat these as two
different
[9:25] » Yeah. No, that's Yeah, I agree. I just
didn't know if that was going to be the
[9:28] only action. Yeah.
>> So if you want to deal with the colors
[9:31] right now understood. Perfect.
>> Then we'll address that next.
[9:35] » Thank you. Okay. So, we had a motion by
Nathan and
[9:41] was there who was the second? Oh, Lisa.
Okay.
[9:45] All right. Yeah. And this is for the
color for the gold that was provided
[9:49] within the uh packet. All right. So,
hold on here. Make my notes.
[9:56] All right. Lisa Kennedy,
>> yes.
[10:00] » Nathan Turner,
>> yes.
[10:02] » Carol McPeek,
>> yes.
[10:03] » And Valerie Duncan,
>> yes.
[10:05] » Okay. So, we got an approval for the go
gold for the canopies.
[10:14] » Okay. Under the same item number, now we
uh discuss potential action on the U
[10:22] minimum maintenance plan.
[10:28] How's it going? How's the project going?
It painting and stuff like that. Yeah,
[10:33] it we are making progress. It hit
everything and and um I've talked to a
[10:38] couple people already about catch it
early, don't wait. Um just because it's
[10:42] it's not just a paint job, it's a
rebuild job. Um yeah, the seconds story
[10:48] windows were a beast, too. Um just like
the tin was. Um, some areas have been
[10:54] great, some have been difficult, but
what I tried to do,
[10:58] um, this month is do a little bit of
everything so that I would know
[11:01] realistically what we're looking at. Um,
tuck pointing. Um, I was able to do some
[11:07] of it. I did about five areas. I still
indicated about 55 other areas that I
[11:10] need to do. Um, the windows I tried to
do from the inside like I did over at
[11:16] the lints, which I had to do from the
inside because of the power lines. This
[11:19] was easier to do from the outside. Um uh
and now we've gotten a second um
[11:26] scaffolding set as well. So we'll be
able to work to it because I also have
[11:30] 60 days to finish the uh firehouse. So I
I don't want to be compliant here and
[11:35] not compliant there. So it's moving
along better, but um with 30 windows to
[11:40] do upstairs because they do go all the
way around the the window. I see about
[11:44] 30 days of work there. Um, and then
about 50 days to do the
[11:49] um, talk pointing. Although I am talking
to people to see if I can get somebody
[11:53] to do it faster. So, so far we've had
difficulty.
[11:59] If anybody's watching and can do that,
call me.
[12:01] » Did you say,
>> pardon me?
[12:02] » Did you say 50 days?
>> Yes. Yeah. Because we have to actually
[12:06] get and a lot of those are by wires and
things like that. So, we actually have
[12:10] to do it from the scaffolding and move
it around or we're going to have to rent
[12:14] a truck and but it's still up through
wires. There's uh cables that hold up a
[12:20] pole in front of the building and
there's wires down the alley and there's
[12:23] Yeah. So, there's difficulty to get to.
It's not just around the base where I'm
[12:27] counting the whole building. Yeah.
That's the backside that you can't see
[12:32] as well over the rooftop. Um
and yeah, that's it. And then we'll have
[12:38] to paint the awning now. But that's, you
know, that's not a big task
[12:43] cuz that's prepped. That's just we have
to roll.
[12:50] » I'm trying to remember the brick
pointing was originally a part of this
[12:54] minimum maintenance plan.
>> Yes. Well,
[12:58] » facade.
>> Yeah. On on the facade there was some
[13:02] fixing of the but I think as Mr. lad
indicated there was more than what was
[13:08] realized initially.
>> I I indicated it in there. Um I was the
[13:13] one that blew the whistle on that. There
are
[13:17] several places that really need
attention but to hit the whole building.
[13:22] That's the the that's what I would be
doing with the 55.
[13:26] » So you're asking
>> So like if I'm pushing things so they're
[13:28] not my problem again, like at least the
building will stand for 15 to 20 years
[13:32] and now it's somebody else's problem. I
would address them all. If we're just
[13:35] trying to take it out of minimum
maintenance, then I could maybe cut that
[13:39] down to 10 days and we'll just hit the
parts that really need it. But there are
[13:43] some that I'm sure if you came and saw
the building, you'd go, "Yeah, you need
[13:45] to handle."
>> So basically, you're asking for a 90day
[13:49] for 90 days.
>> Yeah.
[13:51] » Why do you want to focus on the paint
and changing the paint? Because I don't
[13:54] necessarily feel that the paint is a
problem instead of focusing on the
[13:58] minimum maintenance to get that off your
back before changing the colors.
[14:03] And again that was just because once
we're done with this I even though yeah
[14:08] it's not part of the minimum maintenance
to paint that we have finished
[14:11] everything else other than that and it
that wouldn't add greatly to the you
[14:16] know we have three awnings to or four
awnings to paint. So that wouldn't add
[14:21] greatly to it. It's the the windows
again isn't painting the windows. It's
[14:25] rebuilding the windows. The scaffolding
is a paint job. So, you don't feel like
[14:29] paint redoing the paint on this would
take time or money per se?
[14:34] » It it will take it will add time and
money to the project, but um at least
[14:41] and again, it's not necessarily part of
this, but I sure would like to get it
[14:44] done. And by fixing this, one of the
benefits is I have a renter. We've had
[14:48] the second meeting or a potential renter
and they're really wanting to do it. So,
[14:53] I want to give them everything they need
to to be successful. So, I'd like to
[14:59] paint it if I can.
>> So, if I was in your shoes, I would
[15:01] really focus on the minimum maintenance
before I would changing the colors
[15:04] because your renters are going to be
there.
[15:06] » Yeah.
>> And it's going to save you some time and
[15:08] money to be able to focus on that as
opposed to changing the colors.
[15:13] » And we could I mean, you've approved it
now, so I think you have six months. So,
[15:18] I Yeah, I could definitely jump across
the street and get the firehouse because
[15:22] I I also want to get to the Victor, too.
So, yeah.
[15:27] So, [snorts]
>> so that's true.
[15:29] » You're basically asking then for another
90 days
[15:33] » and um I certainly am sympathetic with
the idea that these jobs turn out to be
[15:39] so much more than anybody expects them
to. I own a historic home so I know
[15:44] that.
>> But there also has to come a point where
[15:48] we quit giving extensions.
And I want you to think really hard. Is
[15:53] 90 days reasonable? because if I vote to
give you a 90-day extension on this, I
[16:00] will not ever vote to do it again in the
future.
[16:04] » So, I'm just warning you about that.
>> Yeah. And and
[16:09] it is difficult because, you know, like
even during this time period, we got all
[16:14] the scaffolding set up and everything
else and then we got 23 mph winds and
[16:17] you can't be on scaffolding um in 23
mph.
[16:21] » I sympathize with that. That's awesome.
>> So, I that's the only X factor I have.
[16:25] like I do I did test it and that's why I
feel like I can get it done in that a
[16:30] lotment of days. Um and that didn't
include painting the scaffolding. That
[16:34] would just be you know but you know
you're at 85 days just on the the tuck
[16:39] point and finish the windows. Um but
you're right if there's winds, if
[16:44] there's rain, those hold us back. It's
not that we don't work. Those are good
[16:47] days that we can go and be shopping
products and things that we need to do
[16:51] and fixing. you know, we had heat and
air and everything else that you have to
[16:55] do just being a building owner in other
places. But, um, I think if if I do
[17:01] believe that that's a realistic time
frame, number of work days now, in that
[17:07] I think it'll take 85 days and I feel
comfortable with that. That only gives
[17:10] us 5 days of mess up on a 90-day
extension. That's tight. Um, you know,
[17:15] that means we got to double up or hire
people if we see rain or, you know, we
[17:18] we got to get think more things going.
So, would I feel better with an extra 30
[17:22] to be protected? Definitely. You know,
but um it's Oklahoma, so you we never
[17:30] It's It's been kind of gorgeous for for
a while, so you know, it's hard to tell,
[17:36] you know. But I have a jacket on today
and had a t-shirt on two days ago. So,
[17:41] » have we approved two extensions so far,
Dan?
[17:44] » Yes.
[17:48] » Yes. If I uh cuz I had it written down.
[17:53] » Do I hear any discussion?
>> Yeah, but I think there were there were
[17:56] two
>> there were two extensions.
[18:00] » I do have a question just cuz I've been
in more meetings [laughter] than a lot
[18:06] of people. Now, um I do need to come
back in 60 days on the far house. Is it
[18:12] possible to just give me an extension by
there and and give an update on where
[18:16] we're at and we'd know what I got done
and
[18:20] » the request that again? I'm not sure I
understood what you're saying.
[18:23] » Yeah. And if I can, I think he was
saying just give him 60 days now and
[18:28] then this will be back on the agenda
when the firehouse is on the agenda. And
[18:32] so it' be kind of an update and if more
time is needed at that point. Am I
[18:36] correct?
>> Yes. because then I could
[18:39] » just giving you 90 or 120 days
>> because I would even know better by
[18:43] then. Like that's kind of halfway
probably through a realistic deadline,
[18:46] but I would I understand like I'd be
pushing pedal the metal and I have to
[18:52] get the firehouse done by then. So I
we're all here again. Maybe if you know
[18:57] I just had an extension and table it
till then to
[19:00] » if I were in your shoes.
>> Mhm.
[19:03] » I would ask for the 90 days that you
just have said that you're reasonably
[19:07] sure that it's going to take because as
I said if you come back in 60 days and
[19:13] we've given you an extension for 60 days
and you're not done, I'm not voting to
[19:17] give you an extension again. I can't
speak for anybody else on the
[19:21] commission. But if you if you think it's
going to take 90 days, then I really
[19:26] think that's what you need to ask for.
>> Okay. Well, again, I think I think it'll
[19:30] take 85 days of work. So, you know, if
we I I if if I was going to ask like
[19:37] that and the point of no return and I'm
doing the firehouse, I I would ask for
[19:41] 120 because that gives me 30 days of
wind and rain and things like that. And
[19:46] I can almost guarantee we'll have 30
days of I think we have rain later this
[19:50] week. So,
[19:56] » so the question I think
>> Yeah. So, I wasn't saying I'd get it
[19:58] done in 60. I was just saying, you know,
maybe we can I I'd have a better update
[20:02] by then on I I will have done more
windows and more tuck pointing and talk
[20:07] to people by then. So,
>> so if I'm not mistaken this, then
[20:14] he's asking that we give him a 90-day
extension on the blue belt. And we're
[20:20] not talking about the the fire station
at this time.
[20:26] » No, that's correct because that's Yeah,
that's already coming back.
[20:29] » Finish the maintenance.
>> So, I guess that's the question that's
[20:34] in front of us right now. This is
something that we want to do.
[20:56] I'm my inclination is to grant the 90
days because of the amount that has been
[21:02] done up to this point, but I'm going to
be uh I mean y'all we can discuss that
[21:09] uh because there's been a lot of
progress. There's been a lot done to the
[21:12] building and I'm incredibly happy to see
that.
[21:15] » Um, but to your point, Valerie, I think
we we've got to have a a hard deadline
[21:20] on
>> I would make the motion that we approve
[21:24] 90 days
[21:28] extension.
>> Are you good with that?
[21:30] » Um, [clears throat]
we have all got a vote.
[21:34] » Do I hear
>> you feel 90 days?
[21:36] » Is there a formal second?
>> You feel you can be done in 90 days?
[21:40] I I I told you I could do it in 85 days
and I'm that will mean five days of
[21:44] rain, but I Yeah, I can I'm I don't have
much choice. So,
[21:49] » and holding off on the paint, you don't
feel like that would
[21:51] » I'll hold off on that. Yeah,
>> I would hold off on the paint.
[21:54] » We won't add that to the bucket. I'm
just saying
[21:57] » get these fines off if you get done what
needs to be done.
[22:01] » Okay.
>> The paint is cosmetic. Yeah.
[22:04] » You can always Your renters are going to
be happy.
[22:07] » Yep. Yep.
>> So,
[22:09] » yeah. Yeah. So, we had a motion by uh
Nathan and a second by Carol to give a n
[22:15] 90day extension and or completion of the
minimum maintenance plan.
[22:21] » So, Lisa Kennedy,
>> yes.
[22:24] » Nathan Turner,
>> yes.
[22:26] » Carol McPeek,
>> yes.
[22:27] » And Valerie Duncan, [clears throat]
>> yes.
[22:29] » All right. 40.
[22:33] » I will say you've made great progress.
Thank you.
[22:36] » I am very, like I said, I'm very excited
to see this much being done.
[22:41] » Thank you. Well, if you need to ask me
any other questions, I'll be on
[22:45] scaffolding for [laughter]
No, I'm kidding. Thank you very much.
[22:47] » I know it's a lot.
>> Thank you.
[22:50] » Okay. Are there any staff comments?
>> None. Thank you, Madam Chair.
[22:54] » Any commissioner comments?
>> No. Well, then this meeting is journed.