1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,680 All right, let's get started. Good evening everyone and those in 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:10,160 attendance. Uh, welcome to the 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:14,719 board of commissioners meeting of August 17th, 2026 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:19,039 in accordance with the open public meetings act. Notice of this meeting has 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:23,359 been sent to the retrospect and posted on the burrow website, burrow social 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:29,039 media, and posted on the bulletin board in Burrow Hall and is being held in 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,439 person as well as via Zoom. May we please stand for the pledge of 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:36,800 allegiance followed by a moment of silence. 9 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:42,480 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:49,320 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,320 justice for all. 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,199 » Thank you very much. 13 00:00:59,199 --> 00:01:04,799 Roll call. Commissioner Troy >> present. 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:09,600 » Commissioner Sidell >> present. 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:14,159 » Uh Commissioner uh Cole is absent as she is out of town today. 16 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:19,280 » We have a quorum. Uh the very first thing I'm 17 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:26,159 » the very first thing I want to do is give my personal and professional thanks 18 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:30,720 to someone. Um when we when I came onto this board, it was in a uh runoff 19 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:36,799 election or a special election in November of 2024. And then in May, our 20 00:01:34,479 --> 00:01:41,759 commissioners turned over and Frank was greeted with two new commissioners that 21 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:47,040 needed to really learn the ropes. And um I really want to thank our solicitor, S 22 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Cesleaniano, for sticking on an extra year for us. So thank you S to allow us 23 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:58,960 to kind of enjoy the continuity of government and to learn the ropes. Uh so 24 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:04,799 but tonight is S's last meeting. Um we are having a new solicitor next year. S 25 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:12,239 did not bid uh on the contract. So he has other towns. Ottabon is grateful and 26 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:16,480 we have a loss. So I wanted to and Frank and Aar who couldn't be here wanted to 27 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:20,239 present to you a certificate of appreciation. Thank you 28 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,720 » for all of us for for personally for the advice that you've absolutely given me. 29 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,721 » Thank you very much. >> You saved our bacon 30 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:29,120 » more times than uh I could eat. [laughter] 31 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,640 » Stand the center and thank you. >> Yes. 32 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,440 » You want to get down there or is up here for fine. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate 33 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,519 it. >> Thank you guys. Everything appreciate 34 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,879 it. >> No, thanks very much. Take time. 35 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:52,400 » All right. Next, I would like to make a motion to wave the reading of the 36 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:55,840 minutes and approve as submitted and verified that actually we had them all 37 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,720 to read. So, we had a lot of reading today, last this last week. Uh the 38 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:05,840 commissioner meetings of July 27th and March 9th, we had a little hiccup. There 39 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:10,959 was an absence uh and uh we we skipped it. Uh and work session meetings of July 40 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:16,080 13th, 2026 and the closed meeting of July 13th, 2026. I'm making a motion to 41 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,920 wave the meeting and the minutes and approved as submitted. 42 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,800 » Second. >> Voting on that motion. Commissioner Troy 43 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,040 » in favor. >> Commissioner Sidell 44 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:30,640 » in favor. Next, I'm going to open the floor for public comment on items listed 45 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:34,640 on the agenda. These are comment period for things that we are going to take 46 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:40,799 action on tonight only. Uh there's another comment period at the end uh for 47 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:44,560 any items. Uh, so I'm make I'll make the motion to open the floor to public 48 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,319 comment for items listed on the agenda. Can I get a second? 49 00:03:45,519 --> 00:03:49,440 » Second. >> Voting on that motion. Commissioner Troy 50 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,040 » in favor. >> Commissioner Sidell 51 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,040 » in favor. 52 00:03:54,720 --> 00:04:00,879 » The floor is open. >> Please just come forward. 53 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,599 » You just come forward for items listed on the agenda. Yes. 54 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:15,040 The rule is you get five minutes. If you uh need more, you have to take your 55 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:17,519 seat. Let others have a turn. You can come back for one more minute. 56 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,680 » Perfect. No worries at all. Yeah. Thank you everyone. 57 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:24,960 » The name and street and name. >> My name my name is Alan Belatty. Uh my 58 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:28,639 wife my wife Claudia Ruiz Belfatt and I live at 638 Wayne Avenue. 59 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,360 » Okay. If you're making comment about Wayne Avenue, that is not on the agenda 60 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,560 tonight. You're going to have to wait until the end. 61 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:39,400 » Oh. >> Uh for the second comment period, but 62 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,400 » just so you know. All right. 63 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:46,759 All right. Uh, anybody may have a comments on the agenda. 64 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:53,240 Seeing none in the audience, I'll move to Zoom. Any comments? 65 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:01,520 » All right. Seeing none, I'll move the public I'll move to close public comment 66 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:05,040 period for agenda items. Can I get a second? Second. 67 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,880 » Voting on that motion. Commissioner Troy >> in favor. 68 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:10,800 » Commissioner Sidell >> in favor. There's another time at the 69 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:17,759 end after after our agenda items. So just have to hang tight. Um 70 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:22,720 next ordinances. So this is our only ordinance on the docket this evening. It 71 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:28,080 is the second reading and public hearing on ordinance 202614 72 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:33,360 amending chapter 195 entitled solid waste. I make a motion to open the floor 73 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:36,800 for public comment for the public hearing of ordinance 202614. Can I get a 74 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,680 second? >> Second. 75 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,440 » Voting on that motion. Commissioner Troy >> in favor. 76 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:46,880 » Commissioner Sidell >> in favor. If anybody has comments on the 77 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:52,440 trash uh ordinance, uh you may come to the deis for five minute comment. 78 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Seeing none in the room, I'll move to Zoom. 79 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:11,360 Seeing none. Uh, so I'll make a motion to close the public hearing and adopt as 80 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:15,520 read the 20 ordinance 202614 amending chapter 125 entitled solid 81 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,960 waste. >> Second. 82 00:06:15,919 --> 00:06:19,520 » Second. >> Voting on that motion. Commissioner Troy 83 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,440 » in favor. >> Commissioner Sidell 84 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:27,600 » in favor. And as a reminder, bulk trash will now be the second week of every 85 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:33,080 month. Correct. Starting September. 86 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,080 » Starting in September. 87 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Um, next resolutions under the consent agenda. The resolutions below have been 88 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,400 placed on the consent agenda by the board of commissioners and will be 89 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:48,240 enacted in one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items 90 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:53,840 unless requested by a board member and I will be pulling one out at least to to 91 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:58,319 point out. Uh, number 92, authorization to pay vouchers. Number 93, 92 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:04,800 authorization to insert a special item of revenue, recycling tonnage grant. 93 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:09,680 Number 94, authorization to insert a special item of revenue, the New Jersey 94 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Alcohol Education Rehabilitation and Enforcement Fund Grant. Authorization 95 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:18,400 95, the authorization to approve appointments. 96 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:23,280 96, the authorization to sign service agreements for various professional 97 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:26,479 services. 97, authorization to sign a shared service agreement with the 98 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:31,759 Hadenfield Board of Education for the Municipal Alliance Coordinator Services. 99 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:37,599 98, the authorization to approve change order number one for tree and stalk 100 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:41,280 removal bid for Falenberg tree expert. Number 99, the authorization to release 101 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:47,680 the performance bond Solace Weights collection services for 2025 2026. 102 00:07:45,599 --> 00:07:52,880 100 the authorization to release the performance bond to Cooper the Cooper 103 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:56,879 Health System block 11 lot 7 at 100 Grove Street. 101 the authorization to 104 00:07:55,599 --> 00:08:02,960 approve general event permit applications of various types. 102 the 105 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:07,759 authorization for a NOUS antique Auto Club to hold the antique auto show. The 106 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:15,360 auto show is coming back to Hadenfield. And 103 the authorization for the naming 107 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:19,039 of an unnamed roadway as Hitchner Alley. Can I get a second? 108 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:23,280 Second. Uh, so I want to read the consent 109 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,000 agenda, but before that, I'm going to tell a little story. 110 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,160 » Did you make a motion on No, >> you made the motion. 111 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,680 » I made a motion. You seconded, but now we have comment. Okay. Okay. So, we've 112 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:38,080 accepted it. Uh, so then we'll pull out before we vote. So, last winter uh after 113 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:44,320 that first snowstorm, uh, I got an email from a resident, uh, of Grove Street who 114 00:08:41,599 --> 00:08:47,680 had told me an interesting story. one, their alleyway doesn't really get 115 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,000 plowed. And I said, "Well, that's a shame." And I said, "Why doesn't the 116 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,839 alleyway get plowed?" And they said, "Well, that really doesn't have a name. 117 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,640 If you don't have a name, like it it it really kind of gets overlooked 118 00:08:54,959 --> 00:09:00,720 sometimes." But then she told me another story, which was her husband had fallen 119 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,240 ill in his car. And if you anybody knows Grove Street, you can't park on Grove. 120 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:12,000 So, there was an alleyway that connects the the houses of Grove and uh and 121 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:17,839 Colonial uh Lake and Willlets. and she said, "I had such a hard time describing 122 00:09:14,959 --> 00:09:21,600 where we were uh because you know we have regional dispatch. When you call 123 00:09:19,279 --> 00:09:26,000 911, it's answered in Cherry Hill and then they dispatch to Hadenfield." And 124 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:31,440 it's said she couldn't say where she was. Uh she had to drive to Grove Street 125 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Auto to meet the ambulance and you know, we just said that's wrong. So what are 126 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:39,519 we going to do about that? So we said, "Well, it needs a name." So what we did 127 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:44,480 is we sent a letter to all the houses that touched that alleyway all along 128 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:49,279 Grove all along Colonial on Willlets and on Lake Street and said guys what do you 129 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:54,000 want to name it? So this is the way we reach out to the community uh to get 130 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:57,279 feedback. You know I I like to say a lot of times we provide the canvas and you 131 00:09:55,680 --> 00:10:01,600 provide the paint. Well this is a wonderful paint to offer. So the 132 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,880 authorization for the naming of an unnamed roadway as Hishner Alley whereas 133 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,880 NJSA4671K 134 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,160 empowers a municipal governing body to provide for the naming and changing of 135 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,839 names of streets and highways. And whereas a review has been conducted of 136 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:22,560 the proposed name to ensure it does not duplicate or phonetically approximate 137 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:27,040 any existing street name in the bureau, thereby protecting public safety and 138 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:31,120 emergency response efficiency. And whereas the governing body desires to 139 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:37,360 formally name this currently unnamed lane located between block 17 lot 14 and 140 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:42,560 lot 12 on Lake Street intersecting with Willlets Avenue at block 17 lots 24 and 141 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:49,680 one and continuing on to Grove Street between block 19 lots 4 and 3.01 to 142 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:53,200 honor Boyd A Hitchner and whereas the proper notice has been given and all 143 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:57,440 requirements for the designation of said roadway have been satisfied. Now 144 00:10:55,519 --> 00:11:00,720 therefore be resolved by the board of commissioners of the burrow of 145 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Hadenfield county canon state of New Jersey as follows. The public roadway 146 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:11,120 described by block and lot is hereby officially 147 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:15,519 named Hitchner Lane. The municipal clerk is authorized and directed to transmit a 148 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:20,079 certified copy of this resolution to the clown county planning board, the local 149 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:24,560 postmaster, the municipal engineer, and the 911 emergency dispatch coordinator. 150 00:11:22,959 --> 00:11:28,959 The Department of Public Works is authorized to manufacture and install 151 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:33,360 appropriate street name signs bearing the designated name at the appropriate 152 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:41,200 intersections. And this resolution shall take effect immediately upon adoption. 153 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:45,560 » Um, are there any other U consent agenda items we would like to pull out and 154 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:45,560 discuss? 155 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,839 » Right. >> Nope. All right. Good. Record them all. 156 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,600 » Yep. And the car show is coming back. I'll say it again. I'm very excited 157 00:11:53,279 --> 00:12:00,760 about that. >> Um, and can we get a picture? I wanted 158 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 to 159 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:23,120 » you want >> me out. 160 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,399 Yes. >> Congratulations. 161 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:41,160 There you go. Thanks. 162 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:06,240 » Alley fish alley. I got to change level by the way was close. It will be 163 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,720 Hitchner Alley, not Hitchner Lane. >> Yes. 164 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,920 » Yeah. I I >> That was partially me. 165 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:21,040 » So, no. I sit there for a second. It's not official until we vote on it. So, 166 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:25,600 roll call, please. >> Voting on approval of the consent 167 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:27,680 agenda. Commissioner Troy >> in favor. 168 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:32,680 » Commissioner Sidell. >> In favor. Congratulations. 169 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:32,680 Congratulations. 170 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,120 Thank you. >> Okay. Now, next I'm going to make a 171 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:45,519 motion to open the floor for public comment on anything you want. Um, do I 172 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:50,680 get a second? Second. >> And after she says goodbye to Ann, 173 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:50,680 she'll take roll call. 174 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:16,199 Good night. I see everyone. >> It's not every day we get to name a 175 00:14:13,199 --> 00:14:16,199 street. 176 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,880 » Uh, so I made a motion and there was a second to open the floor for public 177 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,160 comment. >> Voting on that motion. Commissioner Troy 178 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:28,560 » in favor. >> Commissioner Sidell 179 00:14:25,839 --> 00:14:33,040 » in favor. Uh the floor is open for public comment on all items and as you 180 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:39,920 come up because I know some of you want to talk about um the the Rner complex. I 181 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:44,079 will announce that we had 65 submissions uh by today which was the deadline to 182 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:50,480 take submissions. So thank you for everyone that provided comment on uh the 183 00:14:47,199 --> 00:14:55,360 plans that we will then go back and work out fuller plans with engineer and make 184 00:14:53,360 --> 00:15:02,000 presentation to the community. Uh, please. The floor is open. 185 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,000 » I'll miss that. [laughter] 186 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:11,120 » And you're first because you were first. >> I'm still Alan Belatty. 187 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:15,279 » All right. There you go. All right. >> All right. Thank you. And uh again, uh 188 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:19,920 my wife uh I'm Alan Belatty, my wife and I, Claudia over Belf Fatty. We live 638 189 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:24,079 Wayne Avenue. Uh we lived here about 10 years. We bought our house because of 190 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:27,839 the culde-sac. Um, that's why we bought this property and that's why we live 191 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:30,959 where we live. Um, and you know, parking on our street is already a complete 192 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:35,600 nightmare, especially during the summertime with the activities at Radner 193 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Field. However, we understand, you know, it's just part of we we didn't want to 194 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,959 cause a stink for 10 year. You know, we understand like the kids are just trying 195 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:45,040 to go watch the game and stuff like that. So, we've kept quiet about it. But 196 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:48,720 to try and turn our street into a bus terminal, which the proposed plan 197 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,440 basically would do. >> Uh, go ahead. have these I can pat them 198 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:56,120 around >> because I know the deadline is today. So 199 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:03,519 » you you keep talking while you're doing that. 200 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:07,839 » Yeah. Great. So I mean basically what it's when after looking at the plans and 201 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:12,079 stuff like that where it's instead of doing what is proposed it makes all the 202 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:16,160 sense in the world to revamp the other side of the field as opposed to causing 203 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:20,279 havoc on our side. Um and that's basically what this is all about. 204 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,399 Thank you. 205 00:16:28,079 --> 00:16:32,880 » So, this is an alternative proposal, >> correct? 206 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:36,399 » Two of them. >> Oh, I see that, too. Okay. 207 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,199 » Correct. Yeah. >> No, that's what I 208 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:42,880 » Oh, yeah. One one's the original, one's the proposed uh doing it on the other 209 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:45,680 side of the street, which which obviously makes a lot more sense. the 210 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,800 originals. >> This was like a little bit. We moved a 211 00:16:48,079 --> 00:16:50,320 little bit over the >> Yeah, that's right. It did look a little 212 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,040 different. >> Yeah, it a little different. We put the 213 00:16:52,079 --> 00:17:00,399 parking here and everything. So, >> yes, there's two different two different 214 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:04,160 plans from our original. >> All right. Thank you for providing that. 215 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:05,280 » Yeah, absolutely. And that and that's it. 216 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,319 » Oh, that's okay. >> Yeah, because today was the deadline. 217 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:12,640 So, I just want to make sure that I know Mr. Salvatore, he 218 00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:15,839 » Miss Salvatore. >> Oh, no. It's not Salvatore Siciliano. It 219 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:20,880 was >> Louise Salvat Salvatore. Yeah, 220 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:25,120 » I'm at 634 Wayne Avenue, too. And we also was was wanted to talk about 221 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:29,200 » Yeah. Sorry. >> No, no, I'd give it to her and I heard 222 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:33,919 » Oh, okay. Um, we also need to address also the the bathroom facilities. I 223 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,559 don't know if you noticed the I mean, it's in terrible condition and I've been 224 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:42,960 living there for 29 years and nothing has been done uh to make it look better. 225 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:48,080 clean the bathrooms a little bit, repaint it and all that stuff. So, uh, 226 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:52,799 but hopefully, you know, the new proposed, I know, like you said, you had 227 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:58,559 65, uh, some metals and, uh, hopefully one of them will help us, um, with not, 228 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:03,280 uh, opening the culdeac and that's what we're here for as we don't 229 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,520 » and I just changed the 66. >> Thank you. 230 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,679 » All right. No, thanks, chair. All right. Thank you. 231 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:16,280 Any other comments from the floor on any topic? 232 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,200 » Hello. >> Oh, hey Bob. 233 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:30,960 » Hey, Robert Marshall, Maple Avenue, 514. Um, actually more of a this is uh more 234 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:37,760 of a an invitation. I'm a former president of the historic society and um 235 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:44,720 if the engineers in the burrow are not familiar with our archive center, we 236 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:49,600 have maps going back to 1877. Um one in particular that's Philadelphia 237 00:18:47,679 --> 00:18:57,440 and the environs and also a map of 1907. 238 00:18:53,360 --> 00:19:02,080 Uh the area of Rner Field uh was likely never developed because it shouldn't be 239 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:07,760 developed. Um and I was gratified to see that you're proposing recreation and not 240 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:11,600 some type of imperous cover. >> It it can't be it can't be built upon. 241 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:15,679 » It's green acres, >> right? Um but if you look at those maps, 242 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:22,080 you'll see it's a site that wants to be wet. It's a natural rain garden. even 243 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:29,760 during droughts that that ground is spongy. Um and um if you if they're not 244 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:34,000 aware of that um the the concern is engineers are you know terrific at 245 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:40,160 saying well we can take put this all in a pipe but we saw what happened over in 246 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:45,360 Barbberry and Homestead u during the great floods of 2019. Who 247 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:51,520 can forget that? I will never forget that. Um, the residents received on the 248 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:57,600 choose landing and station received a letter from the engineer for New Jersey 249 00:19:55,360 --> 00:20:02,080 flood plane management. And I've never seen the engineer send a 250 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:07,600 three-page letter back to a resident, but he went through all the old maps and 251 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:11,760 he said, "This is probably the last area to be developed in Hadenfield because it 252 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:15,520 never should have been developed." And that's why 253 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:22,480 everything was being piped to towards one inlet, you know, and and uh clearly 254 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:28,240 inadequate for 400 acres. So, I'm gratified that the burrow is keeping it 255 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:34,159 in open space. Um I hope they don't add at all to the impervious cover. Um, and 256 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:40,000 I'd like to echo the earlier comment that uh we sympathize with the folks on 257 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:46,559 Radner that have traffic going through and their sports events. Um, and I agree 258 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:53,600 and I sympathize the idea of creating another street with that same traffic 259 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:57,039 pattern. Um, I think you that should be given serious consideration whether to 260 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,120 do that. >> So, right. 261 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,159 » Well, thanks Bob. >> That's it. Thank you, Bob. 262 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:19,640 Good evening, Angela Toledo, 635 Wayne Avenue. 263 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:27,760 So, I am a 15-year resident, as I stated a couple weeks ago, here at the 264 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:32,640 commissioner's meeting of Wayne Avenue, and I, too, purchased my home 265 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:38,799 specifically because it was a culde-sac. My then husband and I were very excited 266 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:43,440 to be in a quiet, low traffic street. We had hoped to have a family, but that 267 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:49,360 sadly did not happen for us. But luckily, despite some hardships, I was 268 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:52,480 able to keep the home, keep my cat, [laughter] 269 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:58,960 and keep the lovely family community that I had uh 270 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:03,760 fostered by living on Wayne Avenue. Um I won't name names, but there are people 271 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:11,039 here in attendance tonight that are considered the informal mayor and mayor, 272 00:22:07,679 --> 00:22:15,760 if that's a word, of Wayne Avenue. and they welcomed my then husband and I with 273 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:20,640 open arms and they said you're really purchasing the bestkept secret in 274 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:26,000 Hadenfield and they were right. Um it it's kind of like a slice of Americana. 275 00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:30,000 We have people from all different backgrounds that live on the street 276 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:36,159 probably every single one I think there's 18 20 homes. We can name each 277 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:41,760 other's names. We know each other. We share sugar when somebody's baking a 278 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:46,960 pie. Um it's a very safe area and part of that truly is because it's a 279 00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:53,200 culde-sac. Uh kids play freely in their bikes. Today we have a family from South 280 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:59,039 Africa who rent and they were literally playing in that culde-sac area. She was 281 00:22:55,919 --> 00:23:05,440 not aware of the upcoming proposals and she was a gas. She's got two young boys 282 00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:09,840 with adorable accents and a little cat. And yes, we're not technically supposed 283 00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:14,960 to play on the street, but if you look at old mo old old movies of America, you 284 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,280 know, they they can play there with their bikes. They put their helmets on 285 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:23,679 and they feel very safe doing so. And that family is literally on the end of 286 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:28,880 the street. So, if Wayne Avenue is opened up, this will not be possible for 287 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:33,280 them to do anymore. And it's adorable. I mean, yes, [snorts] 288 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:39,039 there's other factors, safety, traffic, noise, but I love looking outside my 289 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:43,039 dining room window, which is a great big window. I'm I'm three houses from the 290 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:47,520 park, and I can see kids playing in the street, and it's wonderful. Where do you 291 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:51,440 get that in today's society? You really don't. But we do have it on Wayne 292 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:57,200 Avenue, and we're heartbroken to think that it may not be the that way if the 293 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:02,080 street is opened. So, that's that's one thing. Um, as I had mentioned before, 294 00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:07,360 I'm an interior designer by profession from Drexel. Woohoo. Drexel Dragons. Um, 295 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:12,400 and looking at the proposed plan from the burrow, it just seems really 296 00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:18,640 intensively developed. There's no space to breathe in this concept. I understand 297 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:22,960 the need to have fields that rest. I think it Cole mentioned that in a 298 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:30,320 Facebook post. Uh, that makes perfect sense. But it it really is very very 299 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:37,279 densely planned. So um I did send an email to um Mr. Salvat Sal Siciliano. 300 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:43,200 » No no no Salvatore. >> Sorry Salvatore. Yeah, 301 00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:48,159 » pardon me. And the commissioners uh just an hour before the meeting um where I go 302 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:54,559 into a little bit more detail. You know, one idea is to maybe remove some of the 303 00:24:50,880 --> 00:25:02,720 benches that are in the um children's playground area and add them to the area 304 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:09,679 um the pathway so that it's not just oriented towards sports. Somebody say 305 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:14,880 from town can go there and read a book, enjoy the sunset. As I was mentioning uh 306 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:19,200 to Mr. Sidell before the meeting started. I often go there in the early 307 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:23,120 morning when it's really quiet and it's, you know, sometimes misty and it's 308 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:32,000 beautiful. It's it's just a wonderful place of open space. Um, in my email, I 309 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:38,320 also addressed um adding trees if this plan does go forward as proposed. 310 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:43,360 Visually, I didn't move to Hadenfield to look at a parking lot. I'm just going to 311 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:49,760 say it. Um, and not only would it help with the visual aesthetics, but trees 312 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:56,799 would enhance wildlife habitat, they would also cut down on noise um and and 313 00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:02,159 also absorb water. So it it's only a plus to consider and please consult the 314 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,520 Shade Tree Commission which I know is on uh you know the agenda to do in the 315 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:09,279 future because I think there's some really wise people on that commission 316 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:16,320 that would have a lot of expertise to add to this program. Um, along the lines 317 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:23,039 of fencing, I would also urge the planners to limit the use of fencing as 318 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:27,039 much as possible just to keep just to keep the open feeling of the space that 319 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:30,559 we love so much. And I included a picture of one of my visits there so you 320 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:35,159 could see what a beautiful space it is. So, thank you so much. 321 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,159 » Oh, no. Thank you, Angel. 322 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:40,520 » All right. Any other comments? All right. 323 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,000 name and street. >> I don't need a mic. You You'll be able 324 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,440 to >> No, no, you do because of Zoom. 325 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:55,200 » Oh, okay. My name is Katie Pelgi. Me and my husband Mike just moved to Wayne 326 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:59,840 about 2 years ago. And the reason why we did move there is because of the 327 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:04,480 culdeac. It felt like a great place to start and raise a family, especially 328 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:08,640 because of safety reasons. I don't want to make as much comments. I do want to 329 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:10,480 ask some questions. Is this a good one to 330 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:14,240 » be able to answer? We might not be able to. It's really a concept. 331 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:21,440 » Okay. In the proposed plan that we all received, there's two fields, soccer 332 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:26,080 fields. One is not at the legal size for a let's say a high school match. And I'm 333 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:32,400 wondering what the reason for that is. Is it as a practice field? Is it just to 334 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:38,000 spend the money given or >> No. All their most of the fields at even 335 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:43,279 at Crowswoods Green Acres, we have very few legalsized soccer fields. Yeah. 336 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,880 » Different ages. 909 soccer is the most prevalent soccer in town. 337 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:52,159 » Right. So, is the purpose of this to kind of 338 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:55,679 allow for more soccer in town to occur at the same time or what would 339 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,039 » Let her ask her question. >> Oh, yeah. So, we don't waste your time. 340 00:27:57,679 --> 00:28:03,679 » Yes. Thank you for answering. >> Thank you. So, what is the purpose of 341 00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:08,159 these fields? because there is already a field on the baseball field that is used 342 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:13,520 for field hockey, particularly high school field hockey. So, what would be 343 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,679 the purpose of the other two fields? >> Do you have any other questions first, 344 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:20,960 Katie? >> Uh, yeah. The other question I have is 345 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:27,360 for that far baseball field that isn't used by any little league or high school 346 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:34,320 program. It's by like a men's league is usually on there or people from not 347 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:39,919 Henfield use it. Is that kept for their need or is that going to be also used 348 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:44,080 for youth sports here or for the high school baseball team? And then that 349 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:49,360 would be it. Just >> so the dirt field at at Farwood is used 350 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:55,440 by Babe Ruth which is part of the little league uh thing. It is used by the high 351 00:28:52,240 --> 00:29:01,279 school for freshman and JV baseball. And it is used by various youth I mean adult 352 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:06,320 groups. Uh most of them are town uh baseball groups. So the Hadenfield 353 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:10,559 Ruff Riders and Hatiffield Kings are two adult leagues primarily of Hadenfield 354 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:15,919 residents. So that's what that baseball field's used. Um baseball is is no 355 00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:22,240 longer just a spring sport. So there's fall ball that happens both at the Babe 356 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Ruth level and at the uh adult level. So, uh, the struggle of field leverage 357 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:35,360 is field hockey using the outfield, you know, so it's it becomes a scheduling 358 00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:38,559 thing. Uh, we don't know what the scheduling impact's going to be because 359 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:42,000 now the high school's got another turf field, too. So, that all gets to be 360 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:48,559 brought in here. And the size of the fields, the most the biggest program 361 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:53,440 size is 9 9v9, uh, which does not need or even require a fullsize soccer field. 362 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:57,919 Uh, so that would be for youth sports. >> So to just to come back to the two 363 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:02,640 fields, if you were to use them for other sports like let's say lacrosse, 364 00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:06,080 that would probably need some netting if it's at a higher level. Does that mean 365 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,679 you're going to net going around those fields as well? 366 00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:13,360 » So nothing has been finalized yet. >> Okay. I'm just asking about like what 367 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:18,799 the the purpose. >> So nothing's been finalized yet. Um, 368 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,919 these are all youth sports. So, it's except for the baseball, it is typically 369 00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:24,799 not high school sports. >> Okay. 370 00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:28,480 » We anticipate that except for baseball, the high school will move all of their 371 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,279 sports over onto their facilities because this is now owned by the burrow. 372 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:39,440 » Right. Right. >> So, um this is for small kids. Um it is 373 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:45,279 mostly practice. Most of the games are on other fields. Okay. It is also put in 374 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:50,480 place because we're we have a number of grass fields in town that are not being 375 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,159 maintained to a level that people want them maintained to. 376 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,159 » Agreed. >> But the only way but they're overused. 377 00:30:54,559 --> 00:31:00,000 » So the only way that that can be done is if you have an ability to rest fields. 378 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:04,080 » Okay. These will be able to be maintained as well then. 379 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:08,720 » Yes. That's all part of the cycle that is anticipated being able to shift 380 00:31:05,919 --> 00:31:12,480 things around so that not so at any given time we might be able to rest a 381 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:15,120 field to start to better improve the conditions of our fields. 382 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,080 » Right. Because when cleats dig it up then it's all mud and there are no more 383 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,520 grass. So >> and the primary lacrosse field for 384 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,919 practice in town is Centennial Field. It is not netted. 385 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:28,559 » Yeah. And Radner and that or um what's that one down from Centennial? Scout. 386 00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:33,279 » I mean Scout >> Scout Field. Yeah. That as well. 387 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:37,799 » That's not netted. That's not either. >> Yeah. 388 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,799 » Okay. Okay. Thank you. 389 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:57,679 » Hi, my name is Alex Peli. I live on Westmont Avenue, 115 Westmont Avenue. So 390 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:03,200 the 100 block of Westmont Avenue, there's a house being having a major 391 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:09,440 addition to it. I called the police department one day a couple of times 392 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:13,279 because they had, you know, so that block, one side you can't park on. You 393 00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:16,720 could only park on one side of the street. First of all, I asked the 394 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,679 construction people, I couldn't pull out of my driveway, could they pull the 395 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,720 truck to the side they're supposed to park on. And he goes, "What are you 396 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,880 complaining about? Have them replace the signs. We can't read them. Now, the 397 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:32,320 signs that say do not park on this side of the street are worn out, but you 398 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,840 could clearly say they don't park in this side of the street. So, police 399 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:40,640 officer came from the police department. I seen her talking to the construction 400 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,279 die. Then she knocked on my door and she says to me, "What's the big deal? 401 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:48,159 They're going to move the truck for you so you could pull out." I said, "Okay, 402 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:52,159 I'll do that, but what happens when I pull in?" 403 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:54,799 I mean, it's ridiculous. either we're going to park in that side of street or 404 00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:58,000 we're not going to park in that side of street and we're going to stay on top of 405 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,720 these construction people. I mean, they had five trucks out there, okay? Not 406 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:06,000 just blocking my driveway. And then another ca neighbor came out. They're 407 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,519 blocking his driveway. And I said, well, the police officer says, you know, 408 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:12,880 they'll just move it if they need to move it. Well, why can't they park on 409 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:15,840 the side that they're supposed to park on? 410 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:20,000 That's what I was told by the police officer. Just let it be. And I don't 411 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,600 think that was fair. >> Okay. Thanks for bringing it to our 412 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,880 attention. >> And if we could replace those signs that 413 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,880 say you can only park at one side of the street. 414 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,000 » Yep. >> We'll take a look. 415 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:53,039 Hi, I'm Sher Salac 623 Wayne. Is 416 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:56,039 that Wayne Avenue? Sorry. Sorry. >> Yep. 417 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:07,519 » So, I've been there for 28 years. So, raised my kids there and uh we moved in 418 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:12,000 and it was same thing. It was because it is a 419 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:17,200 deadend street. Kids, same thing. They've been playing in that street 420 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:20,960 forever. I have my one son who wanted to go on Zoom. He's like, "I'm not talking 421 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:27,200 on Zoom." But he has moved out and back in. And he's appalled because we have 422 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:32,399 this very tiny street that you're allowed to park on one side of the 423 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:38,320 street. And I'm one of my concerns is that whenever we have the baseball games 424 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:42,480 as it is, they block us in because they're parked everywhere. And if we 425 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:45,760 suddenly have a through street, I know for years and years there'll be a 426 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:50,800 baseball game or there'll be a practice and the kids like zoom to the end and 427 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:54,320 they realize it's a dead end and they zoom back out and they're going to take 428 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:59,119 people out because it's very narrow street and then they park on the one 429 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:03,040 side and it makes it very difficult. I know. I have had concerns over the years 430 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,640 that we know that there's the flooding that goes across on the other end of 431 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:11,119 town, but we get a lot of flooding. Like Angela didn't mention like her house got 432 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:16,720 flooded last year. My neighbor across the street got flooded and from what 433 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:21,440 I've been told over the years and I think you were mentioning is that there 434 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:26,480 we've been told that there is an underground 435 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:30,960 pond like I don't know what exactly it is, but we've been told that. I know I 436 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:35,119 had for about 2 years that something must have shifted but I kept getting 437 00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:38,800 flooding and everyone says we don't know where it's coming from. It just would 438 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:43,680 come into the basement. I have a lot of concerns like I don't understand 439 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:48,560 how at the end of the street there's the retaining basin and 440 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,839 you know we always have where we just jump over it because there's like a 441 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:57,520 block of wood there and I'm have concerns of what happens to that 442 00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:01,839 retaining basin if they start changing everything. Are the the flood lines 443 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:05,200 going to change in our area? Are we going to have more flooding in our 444 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:09,520 basements? I'm very concerned about that. I'm concerned about the traffic. I 445 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:14,160 know what noise is normally like when there's a baseball game and they have, 446 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:17,359 you know, the music going and we can hear it and I'm like, it's here and 447 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:21,920 there. It's not that awful. But if they're constantly zipping through our 448 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:27,359 road on top of it, I'm very concerned about the additional traffic that's 449 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:31,200 going through our area. Um, does it change anything as far as property 450 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:37,599 values because we're suddenly not a dead-end street anymore? Um I'm trying 451 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:41,920 to think of some of the things that I had my list that was was sent to me from 452 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:47,680 my son. Um but yeah, so it's the flooding is a big concern of mine. Noise 453 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:54,240 changes. Oh, I know. We were um we were trying to find out. They suddenly had in 454 00:36:49,680 --> 00:37:01,119 there about the um a playground. Had that been ever put in front of people to 455 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:04,800 ask what their opinions were? If people felt a need to have an additional 456 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:08,000 playground in town. >> Do we know? 457 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,079 You >> want to let her finish first? 458 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,440 » Yeah, we'll let her finish first. >> Okay. Because I know there's a lot. 459 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,240 There's playgrounds at all the schools. There's playgrounds at the churches. 460 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,320 There's playground right outside of Hadenfield at the Challenge Grove Park. 461 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:26,079 I didn't understand why we needed another playground and the expense of 462 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:33,280 another playground and the additional traffic of that. So, that was another 463 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:37,200 issue that I was not sure about. I have a boyfriend whose son has played on 464 00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:41,440 those baseball fields in the men's league and he said that they're in 465 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:48,400 horrific shape. Like, it seems like fixing up those would be a a start. I 466 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:52,920 don't understand why they're doing it all at once. Are they doing it in 467 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,920 phases? 468 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,359 » Do we know >> any more questions? 469 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,720 » No. No. That's I'm asking. Do they they doing them in phases or they doing it 470 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:05,480 all at once? >> Sharon, you want to start tackling? 471 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,480 » Sure. 472 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:14,320 Um, okay. So, first of all, with the playground, we over the years we have 473 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:19,119 gotten a number of requests for playgrounds to be expanded in town. Um 474 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:24,240 because the only municipal playground that we have is down at Rileywood. 475 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:30,880 » Um we received funding from the state for 476 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:36,480 the playground. So it was an opportunity for us to expand a municipal playground 477 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:42,160 in a neighborhood where children congregate. 478 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:47,920 Um the question regarding flooding, part of the issue 479 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:52,880 we're trying to address with this is to tackle some of the flooding issues that 480 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:57,359 occur because of the overgrowth of um the swale that used to be there. Um to 481 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,839 correct that so that it would make things better on your street. That's the 482 00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:08,160 potential that is the plan to try and address that. Um, again, nothing has 483 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:11,680 been finalized with any with any of the plans. That's why we're bringing this 484 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:17,359 out and providing and providing an opportunity for comment. Um, the 485 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:23,920 phasing, again, this hasn't been finally designed yet. The phasing, the intent is 486 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:30,000 to do we need the fields. So it's to do the whole program but to phase it in 487 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:36,240 such a way that we are having the least impact on the the timing for the sports 488 00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:42,079 so that we can get it accomplished in between seasons rather than complicating 489 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:47,280 our field issue. >> What did I miss? 490 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,960 » Um just about it being a through street in general like the traffic patterns and 491 00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:54,560 » the traffic patterns we're going to look at. We have a number of comments. The 492 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:59,359 mayor indicated we had 65. We received 65 comments. Um we're re in the process 493 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,240 of reviewing them now. We'll be reviewing them with the rec commission 494 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:06,880 and we'll be reviewing them with the engineers to try and take as many of 495 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,599 them into consideration as possible. Um we'll look at the two plans that have 496 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:15,440 been proposed to see if there's any ideas from those and then put out a 497 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:22,240 revised plan at a later date. Um I can't give you a to me part of the is concern 498 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:31,760 is um I can understand you not wanting your road opened but you you have issues 499 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:35,680 with traffic as it is. So, um, one of the things that we thought was by 500 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:40,400 opening it, it would relieve some of that traffic of the kids going the kids 501 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:45,839 or the parents going down the street than having to do a K turn because it's 502 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:51,119 not truly a um culde-sac. It's a dead-end street. So, it's trying to come 503 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:55,760 up with something to make it safer. Again, we'll take all of the concerns 504 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,960 about not opening it into consideration with all the other comments we we 505 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:03,119 received and the commissioners can make a decision. 506 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:07,040 » And I just had a text from um Crystal McNeel who lives on Cedar and she wanted 507 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,920 to know if they're going to be cutting down the trees near the baseball fields. 508 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:16,800 » Again, we haven't finalized any landscaping plan. Okay. One of the 509 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:26,160 things that may happen um because we did get comments submitted about the trees, 510 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:29,680 you know what what we may do is um if we have to take them down, we would 511 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,640 probably put something back up in its place 512 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,680 » because they've already taken them down on our street, a lot of them, and our 513 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:41,119 street keeps flooding because of that. They put in new that are like 514 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:46,640 » stick trust me, I understand. But one of the things that we talked about is um 515 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,079 what was the type of the the bush we were talking about? 516 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,000 » The arbor vites. >> Yeah, a arbor vites. The arbor vites may 517 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:56,160 make more sense along that and it would create a more compact screening. 518 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:01,599 » Um because I know some of the comments were the windb blowing and causing 519 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:05,599 disruption. The trees block that. So we're looking at all the different 520 00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:10,880 options that are out there um to address making sure that there's still trees uh 521 00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:16,160 located on the property. um provide shade to provide blocking, you know, for 522 00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:19,760 for viewing and for those people that currently have it blocked. Um all of 523 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:24,240 that is going to be taken into consideration when before the final 524 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:27,240 plan's done to the town hall meeting. >> Um 525 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:32,839 all right. Thank you. >> Thank you, too. 526 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:40,640 » Yes. >> Yeah. Right. So, online folks, keep your 527 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:46,160 hands up. We we do the in room first and then we come to the online people. Uh so 528 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:51,680 we still have Mark Jordan 6 634 main. 529 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:56,400 » Right. I was going to say 32. >> Yeah. Well, I think um what we're doing 530 00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:59,920 here today uh talking about this is a great idea. I mean, we need to do 531 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:04,640 something with the fields and I think uh I don't see a problem with a a 532 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:10,160 playground. I don't see a problem with the parking. I think where we're at now 533 00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:17,760 is what side do we put the parking on? Um, years ago I I met with Tish and we 534 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:23,119 talked about our tennis courts, our basketball courts. Why were they taken 535 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:29,359 away? Why? And left a a terrible, disgusting looking area for years. And 536 00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:35,599 she said, "Well, nobody used them anyway. Nobody played basketball anyway. 537 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:39,520 my kids, my neighbors and I, we played tennis, we played basketball there, and 538 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:44,560 all of a sudden we're left without a basketball court, without tennis courts. 539 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:49,760 Um, but um I know this plan that we're looking 540 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:57,520 at, it's a plan and I believe was dated uh 2015 by CME, I believe. I don't know 541 00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:01,599 who the engineer is that's doing the planning. Would you be able to tell me 542 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:06,880 who it is or >> It is CME. The date on the plan they 543 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:11,040 they were using an old they were they were adding stuff onto an old plan. So 544 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,000 not all of the verbiage on the old plan is is a 545 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:18,880 » perfectly I have a lot of knowledge with RERfield. I personally did all the 546 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:23,760 surveys for Radnerfield. I did conceptual plans for for them. Um I 547 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:27,200 don't have to tell you who I work for but I've been working for them for 548 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:31,920 almost 40 years. I do a lot of site work. Um, personally, I feel as though 549 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:36,720 if we're going to do any kind of parking, any kind of busing, 550 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:43,599 it should be in Farwood. Farwood's a much wider street. And our streets are 551 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:48,560 very narrow. There's parking on both sides. Well, it's supposed to be only on 552 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:53,920 one side, but but I think if we move the parking area down in Farwood and allow 553 00:44:51,200 --> 00:45:00,160 the, you know, buses to to park on the curb, I think that should be sufficient. 554 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:03,760 Um, but I think, you know, addressing RERfield is a wonderful thing right now. 555 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:08,079 Hope something to get done, but certainly I I don't want to see a a 556 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:13,280 throughway through our culde-sacs. I mean, we really, really need them 557 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:19,359 because we, like they said, we we love to see the children out there playing 558 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:25,280 and and feeling safe and u you know, but uh uh you know, I' I'd like to see some 559 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:31,680 other design besides the one that we we we see on online. I think it's 560 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:38,560 inadequate. Um, I think what they need is a a walkway through the fields 561 00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:43,599 connecting with Farwood, not a little drainage swale that looks hideous. 562 00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:49,200 People come from all over the place to to play ball with our our kids and 563 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:56,240 everything. And they're what they say is this is Hadenfield. Hadenfield has the 564 00:45:52,079 --> 00:46:00,240 worst facilities for athletics in everywhere. Paulsboro, Haden Heights, 565 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:05,119 Haden Township. They have better facilities. Let's do something with our 566 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:12,160 our concession stand. It looks like crap. It's not very very nice looking. 567 00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:17,760 Um the the the gravel road is horrible because you get kids coming in there and 568 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:21,760 spinning wheels and you know, and poor hitchers that live on on the parking 569 00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:25,760 lot, they have to deal with that all the time. Unfortunately, they're not here 570 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:30,400 tonight to talk about it because uh they're on a planned vacation, but they 571 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:36,720 wanted to be and I'm I'm speaking in their behalf as well. But I just wish 572 00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:42,480 that maybe we can be work with CMA somehow or CME um somehow and maybe come 573 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:48,480 up with a better solution. But the one they have there is not the solution. 574 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:54,960 It's it's you know, it should be put on firewood if anything. take those trees 575 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:59,599 out, put the put the um uh put the playground just behind the center field 576 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,920 with abroades going around there. It would look great. But a nice walkway 577 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,839 going through the fields there with a little bit of lighting, maybe timed 578 00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:14,640 lighting or something like that with uh you know, a raised path. I mean, so that 579 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:19,680 when the rain goes off it, it goes into a a swale on both sides and that would 580 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:24,800 be perfect. But I think we got to make it look nice because we get a lot of 581 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:30,720 people from different towns and they are disgusted about our restrooms, our 582 00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:32,880 facilities. You know, we got to pick it up. That's all. 583 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,359 » Thank you. >> Okay. 584 00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:36,359 » Thanks. 585 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:56,680 Hi, I'm Glenn Rasik and I reside at 615 Wayne Avenue. 586 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:07,920 And after uh reviewing the uh the plans for the uh renovation of the recreation 587 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:13,920 area, I just might want to make a few suggestions. My first option is I would 588 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:16,920 like to to keep Wayne Avenue at no outlet. 589 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:26,240 We do have traffic uh and parking problems during uh high school baseball 590 00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:33,040 season, but we put up with that for for years. Now, I will say that my parents 591 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:40,160 bought the house in April of 1952, and I uh inherited the house in uh in 592 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:45,599 January of 2019, but I pretty much lived there all my life. I mean, I've went 593 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:49,839 through Tatum School, the Hadenfield Middle School, and graduated from 594 00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:55,359 Hadenfield High. And and I've seen over the years since 595 00:48:52,960 --> 00:49:02,000 the mid 1950s what's going on in that field. And 596 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:05,359 my recommendation is that the for the for a playground is a [clears throat] 597 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:10,720 good idea for a playground. I'm thinking is it something going to be like like 598 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:16,559 what we have at Rileywood Avenue? Something like that. Uh and as you 599 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:21,920 probably know, you've had children. Uh children often scream with excitement 600 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:26,319 and joy when they're playing. And to put it up against Wayne Avenue, uh it might 601 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:31,520 be noisy because that would be up against the last house on Wayne and then 602 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:37,520 it also would be bordering uh Cedar Avenue and I work remotely and I'm sure 603 00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:43,200 there other people work remotely and it would be nice to have, you know, quiet. 604 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:49,680 Uh but uh that's why I thought that the best thing to do would be to relocate 605 00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:54,720 the po uh the uh playground somewhere on the middle of the field or behind the 606 00:49:51,599 --> 00:50:01,359 baseball field. Uh in terms of the soccer field where it 607 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:06,720 is that's always been a good location and then also the uh for the uh the 608 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:12,720 lower field the lower field at Farwood Avenue. Uh that's that's good too. Uh 609 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:18,160 then in between we have the problem with the swamp in there with the wetlands 610 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:23,119 there. Now, I can tell you at one time when I was when I was a child that was 611 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:29,440 all wooded area there and then right there there was it was a stand of maple 612 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:34,480 trees and there was a spring there but it was closer to the Cedar Avenue and 613 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:38,400 then there was a little tributary that that drained into that ditch which I 614 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:43,680 would say definitely needs some renovation also. 615 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:50,240 And then after the uh board of education took over and cleared everything out and 616 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:53,440 uh it seemed like they there was no there 617 00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:56,880 was no swamp problem. But now those springs have apparently come out in the 618 00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:00,400 middle of the field. So there I mean I see that the board of education has 619 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:05,680 tried putting some drainage pipes or something in there, but it's if you walk 620 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:11,680 around it's it's kind of mushy, you know. So that that would definitely 621 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:19,839 need some work there for repair. And as uh as has already been been said that 622 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:24,640 uh there was a tennis court. I used to use the tennis courts down there. My 623 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:29,119 brother had used the the basketball courts. 624 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:34,880 Uh and uh there were problems with it cuz that that whole thing was sloped and 625 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:40,800 there was no separation between the uh a fence between the basketball courts and 626 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:45,280 the uh and the tennis courts. Uh but again, something like that for a 627 00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:51,599 recre for the uh playground would be fine. Uh, and of course there was still 628 00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:57,920 room for I think down blower uh on Farwood for for that additional uh was a 629 00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:01,920 soccer field or a hockey field. And I would I would agree too that uh those 630 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:08,000 pine trees are not the original trees. They could be they could be removed, 631 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:11,760 you know, to make to make room for uh whatever we're going to have. And the 632 00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:16,000 other thing what I felt we talk you you talk about in the in the uh you know in 633 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:21,280 the diagram there'll be walkways for the for the disabled people. One thing would 634 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:28,079 be very good is for a a small track to be put in for people 635 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:32,800 that are for running or for or for walking. And that would be that would 636 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:37,119 help people of all ages. And it also would be safe because this way you 637 00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:42,079 wouldn't have to worry about crossing streets. 638 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:46,160 And the other thing uh also if if it's a special kind of track like we have at 639 00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:53,119 the Hadenfield High School field or what they have in Cooper River in Pence Hawin 640 00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:58,319 in that park uh it would be safe safer and uh orthopedically better instead of 641 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:02,160 pounding on the pavements or risking tripping on a sidewalk. 642 00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:06,640 Right. >> And I think you could probably get a 643 00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:11,520 quarter mile in of of a track. So that that would be helpful. 644 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:19,359 Uh but basically they're my suggestions. And are you planning to pave the uh the 645 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,000 parking lot at Ragnarfield? >> Is that your only question? Because 646 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,680 you're at time. Oh, >> okay. That was my only question. 647 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,920 » All right. Um >> we haven't made a final decision. 648 00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:30,480 » Yeah, we haven't made a final decision. It's not paved now. It's it's it's 649 00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:33,680 gravel. It is okay. 650 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:38,800 » Uh the the parking lot that's there. We haven't made any det. And uh I guess 651 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:44,000 there should be also a renovation of the uh of that fieldhouse. 652 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:47,680 Is that under under a board of education or is that under the burrow now? 653 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:53,640 » No, it's under the bar. >> Okay. Well, thank you for your time. 654 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:53,640 » Thank you. You 655 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:12,559 Good evening. >> Hey, uh Kathy McGee, 265 Windsor Avenue. 656 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:18,720 Um I'm back to Henchman Alley or Lane, whichever it is. Um, I'm a nurse, so I 657 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:22,400 think about risk a lot and I just wanted to bring it to your attention, but the 658 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:27,040 safety officers are probably already on it, but just to make sure that somebody 659 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:32,079 has thought of it um to make sure there aren't any other places that don't have 660 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:35,839 like a real address um for safety concerns. Okay, 661 00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:39,000 » thank you. >> Thank you. 662 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:49,400 Yeah, we believe that is the only one in town that didn't have anything. 663 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:58,280 All right, see no more in the room. Move to online. 664 00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:12,079 » All right. So instead of reading that text question, if it's a submittal about 665 00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:17,280 Wayne Avenue, we'll just add it to the spreadsheet because that's what we asked 666 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:23,800 by the for the deadline. So if that's okay, then that's what we'll do. So if 667 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,800 you can just send that to uh Louise. 668 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:31,200 » Oh, no, no, no. We're not going to read it for No, no, that's okay. She can 669 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:37,079 submit it. She can submit it or she can email it to to uh to Louise. 670 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:44,960 Uh, so we'll go in screen order. If you said 671 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:49,400 Giovanni's mic's not working, we'll move to Sean's iPhone. 672 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,000 » All right. How you doing? Can you hear me? 673 00:55:52,720 --> 00:56:01,440 » Coming in hot. >> All right. So, um, Sean Flynn. I'm uh 674 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:04,000 I'm 419 Farwood Road. Um, sorry I couldn't be there in person. I had a 675 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,680 previously planned vacation, but I know a lot of us on Forward are very uh you 676 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:12,000 know, concerned about the uh you know, as as as Wayne is as well, and I applaud 677 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:17,280 you, Wayne, for showing up in force. Um, good on you. Um, uh, I think, you know, 678 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:21,760 a lot of us have similar concerns about the parking. We um, I know myself, my 679 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,839 neighbor to the left and my neighbor to the right, we both have very, we both 680 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:30,000 have young children. Um, and as someone who uh I went through the Hadenfield 681 00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:33,760 Hadenfield High School as well, long time long time resident, you know, I 682 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,720 moved back I went to Philly for many years and I moved back here because of 683 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,799 it's such a wonderful town and I had a great experience growing up here. Um, 684 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:44,880 unfortunately though, when I was 14, I was struck by a car on Maple Avenue. I 685 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:48,319 was I broke my I broke my femur. I still have a metal rod. I was rushed to 686 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:53,440 Cooper's uh trauma center um because I was, you know, struck by a car. So, I'm 687 00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:57,760 the idea of, you know, of increased traffic on our street is is a great a 688 00:56:55,359 --> 00:57:01,920 great concern to me. Um, and uh the idea of of you know, the parking and I share 689 00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:05,200 I share Wayne's concerns, you know, as well. Um, I don't want to see it sh you 690 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:08,079 know, just shifted, you know, the idea shifted to us, but because we're, you 691 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:12,160 know, we're it's a narrow street as well and we get a lot of the traffic from the 692 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:15,920 baseball fields. Um, you know, during this during the summers and, you know, 693 00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:19,760 other times, you know, I've had people block my driveway. I've had people, you 694 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:23,280 know, like run up on my curb and it's, you know, it's it's it's very narrow 695 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:27,440 when they're parking on both sides of the street as it is. Um, I'll keep my 696 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,480 comments brief. I know that others others on my street would like to to 697 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:35,280 comment, but I, you know, I my concerns and if we're taking um, you know, 698 00:57:32,799 --> 00:57:38,079 suggestions, I suggest we scrap the whole thing. I don't I don't I think 699 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,119 it's a beautiful space and I I understand there's some concern about 700 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:44,720 drainage and it could use some updating for sure, but um I think it's a 701 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:48,400 wonderful space and it's very there's very few like it, you know, in 702 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:52,079 Hadenfield and um I would like, you know, I'd like to see it you remain a 703 00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:57,200 green space and somewhere that, you know, we can we can just enjoy without 704 00:57:53,599 --> 00:58:01,680 it having to serve any express uh you know, purpose just other than, you know, 705 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:05,839 being a a beautiful place to exist and and you know, and live. But uh I'll I'll 706 00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:09,440 conclude my comments there and uh you know yield the floor to anybody else who 707 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:13,000 wants to speak. Thank you for the time. >> All right. Thanks Sean. 708 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:20,960 » All right. Shiovani. >> Everybody. Good evening. My name is 709 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:27,680 Shiovani Bot. Um I live on 363 Farwood Road. Uh neighbors with Shawn and many 710 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:31,599 others on this call. Um, I echo many of the same concerns that have been brought 711 00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:37,520 up by the residents at Wayne, um, as well as Farwood. Uh, first and foremost, 712 00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:42,720 um, if you have been on Farwood in the early morning, um, on our field, you'll 713 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:48,799 see it's a beautiful space, uh, peaceful and calm. And just because it is not, 714 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:53,280 um, programmed to be a specific, um, athletic field, that does not mean it 715 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:58,000 does not make use for passive recreation for many of our residents. Uh you can go 716 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:03,040 there at any time and you'll see many people of different ages using the 717 00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:08,079 space. Um the trees are beautiful. My own family, we fly kites there uh you 718 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:14,640 know and have passive recreation and I think it would be a shame um to turn 719 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:20,880 that into a uh a soccer field. Um and then the other uh major concern is the 720 00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:27,680 fact of uh the parking issue on Farwood. Um, we have signs uh limiting parking 721 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:32,319 and there nobody uh follows those signs. Um, they often park on both sides of the 722 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:38,960 street. I've witnessed an accident. I've seen near misses um with children um and 723 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:44,240 pedestrians um we on Farwood have multiple children under the age of five 724 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:47,920 who are riding their bikes, walking um as well as all over Cedar and Longwood 725 00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:51,119 and just walking through the neighborhoods. Many of us are very 726 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:55,520 concerned for the safety of both motorists and pedestrians and 727 00:59:52,559 --> 01:00:01,040 specifically our kids. Um and then lastly, uh the drainage concern um as 728 00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:08,240 well. But um I think what would be beneficial is if there was more 729 01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:13,280 transparency and a clear um sort of uh plan moving forward as to what input 730 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:20,480 will be taken from the residents, how will this plan be adjusted? um what type 731 01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:25,680 of experts are involved and then um at each level taking in resident feedback. 732 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:30,640 I understand the importance of sports um for our town, but there's also something 733 01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:35,920 to be said about the people living in that area and the characteristics 734 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:41,119 and um of our neighborhood that need to be preserved. And I agree with Sean. I 735 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:45,280 think updating the baseball fields would be great, but preserving the green 736 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:50,400 space, that's priceless. that's never going to come back. And I think it means 737 01:00:47,839 --> 01:00:57,040 a lot to our community specifically um on Rat on Farwood and I'm sure others 738 01:00:53,440 --> 01:01:01,760 would agree and um I think you'll find that um it makes many of us happy on a 739 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:06,319 day-to-day basis just just being in that area. Um so I'd hope you'd really take 740 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:10,559 into cons uh consideration all of our input um because it means a lot to us uh 741 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,960 for those that live in the neighborhood. Thank you. 742 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:18,079 » Thank you. and Shimani and Bo. Good lower your hand when you're done 743 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:22,480 speaking so I could keep track of who still needs to be called on. So Sean, if 744 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:26,760 you could rate lower your hand, I'd appreciate it. So Bob Reading, 745 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:35,040 you can unmute. >> Yeah. Hi. My my laptop really doesn't 746 01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:39,920 work very well, so I actually sent a message on the uh on the uh chat. 747 01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:43,200 » All right. Like I said, a written comment could be sent to uh 748 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,640 » we can copy it. >> Yeah, we'll copy it out of the chat as 749 01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:50,880 part of the recording. We'll add it to the spreadsheet. 750 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:55,440 » Okay. Just quickly though, let's I mean, one the one I I mentioned several 751 01:01:52,880 --> 01:02:01,520 things, but one was um there's currently a sign on the gate uh or on the fence. I 752 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:06,240 I live uh the corner of Maple and um and Radner and so I at at at the field 753 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,000 there's a sign that says that the field's closed at night and the gate 754 01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:16,160 will be closed. In six years living here that's never happened. 755 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:19,760 Um and so um I I think especially if you're going to open up Wayne, which I'm 756 01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:23,200 not in favor of either, and create a parking lot there, you're going to 757 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:29,680 attract a lot more people, a lot more traffic. And I would uh seriously ask 758 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:36,119 you seriously consider actually doing what the sign says and closing that 759 01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:36,119 parking lot at night. 760 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,079 That's it. >> All right. Thank you, 761 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,520 » Swarna. 762 01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:53,920 » Hey everybody. This is actually Mark Estster, Swarna's husband on Swarna's 763 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:57,599 phone. So, I live at um 413 Farwood Road and I live directly across the street 764 01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:02,720 from the soccer field that's in this plan. So, right before my kids took a 765 01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:06,640 bath and went to bed, we were out under those spruce trees right across the 766 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:10,880 street from our house. And they play there almost every single day. They 767 01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:15,520 cross our street to get there. They ride their bikes to get there. And they know 768 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:20,319 the trees the way that I knew the woods behind my childhood home. So, what I 769 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:25,039 want you to understand is that this plan asked my children to trade the place 770 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:31,359 that they play every day for a fence, a field, and an awful parking problem. So, 771 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:36,079 I'm asking uh you today to to not make that trade. So, let me be clear about 772 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:40,720 what I support because I support the drainage. Thank you. Like, let's fix the 773 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:44,720 drainage problem. Let's also rebuild the baseball fields. Let's build the path. 774 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:49,520 Let's build the playground. and let's perhaps consider building a bigger 775 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:53,839 parking lot. All of that's fine, but my ask is take the Farwood Roadfield out of 776 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:58,400 the plan. And I think there are three reasons. First, what we lose, we lose 777 01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,119 the trees, as I've already explained, right? They're stunning through 778 01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:05,680 absolutely every season. They're a buffer between our homes and the 779 01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:10,559 complex. And they the plan to rip them out and replace them with Arborvite, 780 01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:14,480 which is basically just a nice glorified hedge. That's that doesn't seem like the 781 01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:18,240 right move, right? To replace 50-year-old trees with a shrub. And once 782 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:22,960 they come out of the ground, they're gone for every generation that follows 783 01:04:20,319 --> 01:04:27,520 in our neighborhood. So, my kids will grow up long before those trees ever 784 01:04:25,359 --> 01:04:31,839 give shade to anybody ever again. Second, and this is what I think I'm 785 01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:37,039 most worried about and what you're hearing most from people on the call 786 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:41,839 today, is traffic. Um, during baseball games, Farwood is I I don't know what 787 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:46,319 better word, but it's absurd. It's a zoo. There are cars on both sides of the 788 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:50,079 road parked in whatever direction they felt like parking, whatever direction 789 01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:56,160 they pulled up to the game. Neighbors blocked driveways and a two-way street 790 01:04:53,520 --> 01:05:00,319 squeezed into what is a single lane with very young children up and down the 791 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:04,640 block riding their bikes and crossing right in the middle of these cars. I've 792 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:10,559 watched drivers hunting for parking come down our street too fast while my kids 793 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:14,640 stood at the curb watching them. Every parent in this room knows the feeling in 794 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:20,000 your chest. And now you just add a scheduled programmed field onto it. So 795 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:24,480 that that lot that you're describing that's not going to absorb a Saturday 796 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:29,520 morning with baseball, soccer, and a playground all running at the same time. 797 01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:34,240 The overflow lands on Farwood like it always has. Except this time now there's 798 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:37,920 more. [snorts] The, as I mentioned, the playground is fine. We welcome it. But 799 01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:44,079 then guarantee our kids safety, right? Real signs, real enforcement. All of 800 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:51,359 those signs are uh ignored, right? And this this current plan that you have 801 01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:54,960 promises neither signs nor enforcement. The third point I want to make and the 802 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:59,520 last is that I don't know that the need has been shown for two additional soccer 803 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:03,599 fields. We already have four at Crowswood and we have another at 804 01:06:01,839 --> 01:06:09,280 Scoutfield. We have fall soccer at Spicer. We get it. Soccer fields have to 805 01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:13,760 go somewhere. But somewhere should not be 60 ft from my children's bedrooms 806 01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:18,559 when we already have an athletic complex bordered by woods. If the real problem 807 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:23,280 is Crow's Woods, if that's if it's a landfill issue, then fix Crow's Woods 808 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:28,079 properly. Revamp what already exists and show me the utilization numbers that say 809 01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:33,280 that this town needs two more fields. I I don't know that that exists, but 810 01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:38,240 also tell us what project this actually is. The the announcement said grass 811 01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:42,720 fields, but the engineering plan shows sports lighting and synthetic turf and 812 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:48,000 20 foot fencing and bleachers along our street. I just have no idea what you're 813 01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:52,640 even trying to build, let alone if if what I'm opposing is is the the final 814 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:56,559 thing that you actually intend to build. So, um that's all I have to say. I echo 815 01:06:55,359 --> 01:07:02,400 everything that my neighbors have already said. Thank you for your time. 816 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:11,039 » Thank you. I'll say it again. No turf, no lights, no tall fencing whatsoever. 817 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:18,160 Uh the we can only say it. Uh the budget would never support any of those things. 818 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:22,000 U so if if I >> I think Frank wants to talk. 819 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:28,319 » Yeah, just just a a comment on that. Uh there is uh it's uh on the burrow 820 01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:32,480 website there's a uh 2000 I I'm getting my I may be getting my years slightly 821 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:37,039 off here, but there's a 2016 and I believe again a revised 2020 uh parks 822 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:43,359 and recreation study where they evaluated uh all the open space both 823 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:48,880 active and passive in Hadenfield and they made recommendations and it was 824 01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:55,680 either like a four or six acre deficit of what we already have uh identifying 825 01:07:52,640 --> 01:08:02,160 additional need and it's broken down by uh which sports are kind of developing 826 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:07,359 and which ones they anticipate are uh which fields are needed for future use 827 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:11,359 of those uh sports teams that are kind of developing and becoming more popular. 828 01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:15,440 Good examples across when this study was done is much more popular than it was 829 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:19,520 like 10 years before when that study was done. So it is available out there if 830 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:25,440 you want to see it. is not just to make up for what we're what is or is not 831 01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:31,560 happening at Crows Woods. There's just a greater need for both active and passive 832 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,560 um open space. 833 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:44,960 » Uh next we have Kelsey's iPad Pro. 834 01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:49,839 » Yeah. Hi, this is John O. Uh Kelsey's husband. We live at 351 Farwood Road. 835 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:54,799 And I won't take too much time. I'll echo uh everything that my neighbors on 836 01:08:52,960 --> 01:09:00,319 Firewood had said. And I would just also just bring up two additional points. 837 01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:04,960 One, uh with all due respect to our our neighbors on Wayne, again, for all the 838 01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:09,759 points that Sean and Mark, Shiovani, and and others have made, the the parking 839 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:13,520 becomes incredibly difficult. However, the only difference is that we have to 840 01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:18,239 deal with not only that during baseball season, which would seemingly be an only 841 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:22,960 issue for Wayne during baseball season, but the town also uses Farwood Road as a 842 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:27,120 cutthrough to get to Kohl's Mills when there's traffic issues on Grove. So, 843 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:31,679 this is more of a year- round problem for us and not just simply an issue to 844 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:37,359 deal with during baseball season, which others who are sort of surround 845 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:40,560 have to deal with sort of at some point in the year. We're dealing it 846 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:45,920 predominantly throughout the entire year. Um, again, I'll echo all the 847 01:09:42,799 --> 01:09:51,839 points. I've seen many near misses. I've seen our our driveway skirt blocked. And 848 01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:56,640 so the addition of not thinking through properly the traffic flow 849 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,920 with and also not taking into consideration the fact that Farwood is 850 01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:03,520 essentially a cutthrough as I mentioned to Koh's Mill between Grove and Cole's 851 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:08,239 Mill I think would be really shortsighted and if it's not taken into 852 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:13,719 consideration. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you 853 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,719 » Nicole Flynn. 854 01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:23,920 » Hi. Um I'm I'm on Farwood Road also directly across from Radnerfield. And I 855 01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:28,560 also was just here to echo my neighbors in that there's so many small children 856 01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:35,120 on our street. I know at least nine first graders and the traffic is already 857 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:39,440 pretty scary. You can't see beyond because there's cars parked on both 858 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:46,080 sides. The kids can't see the cars can't see the kids and we use that open space 859 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:50,320 across the street daily. Um I agree. I I love the idea for drainage and um the 860 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:56,320 path. I love the idea for the playground, but that extra field across 861 01:10:52,560 --> 01:11:00,400 from on Farwood is I think too much and would take away something that's really 862 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:06,000 central to our neighborhood and something we all really care about and 863 01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:12,000 already use a lot. Everybody uses it and people even come and drive up and park 864 01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:15,120 to use that area as the way it is. So, I think it's a really vital part of our 865 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:18,480 neighborhood and I'd hate to see that go. All right. Thanks for your time. 866 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:24,280 Appreciate it. >> Thank you. 867 01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:24,280 » Uh Lauren Hitchner, 868 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:41,000 Lauren, thanks Jason. 869 01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:53,840 All right. She might have technical difficulties or what have you. Uh, 870 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:57,520 seeing no more online. Thanks everybody for your comments. I'm going to move to 871 01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:01,199 close public comment period. Actually, just one comment on that for both people 872 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:06,080 online and in person. If you have not submitted these already, please make 873 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:08,800 sure you we captured notes, but I can't be expected to regurgitate those. So, 874 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,360 uh, >> the deadline was today. 875 01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:14,080 » Okay. Well, then >> and and most of the commenters actually 876 01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:16,560 said, >> "Okay, perfect. Perfect." 877 01:12:16,150 --> 01:12:19,760 [clears throat] >> From reading the comments, most of the 878 01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:22,760 comments are included in there. >> Gotcha. 879 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:28,520 » What you referencing is under 880 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:38,000 they can't hear me. >> Okay. It's on uh so the um the parks and 881 01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:42,239 recreation study is under planning board and 882 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:46,880 me master plan documents on the lefth hand side and yeah you'll see it. Yeah, 883 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:51,199 it's parks and recreation two different studies 884 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:54,320 and we had already gotten to Steve. Yes. >> Nope. 885 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,159 » No. Okay. All right, Steve. >> Sorry, Steve. 886 01:12:55,120 --> 01:13:01,360 » Sorry. >> No problem at all. 887 01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:05,840 Um, so I just wanted to full Sharon and the commissioners honestly thank you 888 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:09,679 guys for I mean obviously listening to everyone and I know this is not easy and 889 01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:14,080 there's a lot of opinions and thoughts and um I just feel very grateful that 890 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:18,080 this is the type of conversation we're having is about investing in Hadenfield 891 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:22,080 and and how you guys approach it. So thank you. The only comment I had is so 892 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:26,560 much in this town we talk about overdevelopment 893 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:31,520 and I would say as odd as it may sound but overdeveloping this land I think is 894 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:37,120 just as relevant as overdeveloping any piece of land in the in the township and 895 01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:43,520 I just think we should be looking at what we want to invest in this uh field 896 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:48,239 is that appropriate amount of puling and drink etc etc is it is it the right 897 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:51,840 scale for the property um so I think That's very very important. I know 898 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:57,199 there's a lot of engineers, a lot of people a lot smaller than I am. Um, but 899 01:13:54,560 --> 01:14:03,280 I see every day just the impact it has on everyone around us in terms of 900 01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:08,480 traffic and safety. And I just just because we can put it there, is it the 901 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:14,880 right thing to do is is really the thing I would like to convey. Um, that and my 902 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:18,800 gratitude for again you guys all having this meeting and how you guys conduct 903 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:23,840 yourselves. So, thank you. And and again, hopefully we can not overdevelop 904 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:28,400 it, but still invest in the town and and kind of make a win-win for everyone. 905 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,719 » And Steve, can we have your last name and your street? You don't have to give 906 01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:35,120 your address. >> Steve Street, 425 Forward Road. 907 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,280 » Thank you. >> I thought that was you. How you doing, 908 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:43,760 Steve? [laughter] >> I'm doing well. Thank you very much. 909 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:46,800 » All right. One last shot to Lauren. >> Hey, Jack. 910 01:14:44,719 --> 01:14:53,360 » Yeah. Hi. It's This is John Hitchner. not Lauren. Sorry about that confusion 911 01:14:48,640 --> 01:15:01,120 later earlier. Um anyway, um thank you so much for honoring my family and my 912 01:14:56,719 --> 01:15:06,800 father today uh with the Hitchner Lane Street Alley. It's it's all an honor and 913 01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:12,239 uh my mother was able to represent today. We're away on vacation. So, uh, I 914 01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:18,880 wish I could be there, but, uh, like you said, it's not very often where you get 915 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:22,560 to name a street, uh, or an alley, uh, after someone. And, um, they're 916 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:27,120 long-term, uh, residents there. And my father, Boyd 917 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:32,000 Hitchner, uh, worked at Acme for many, many years and owned an antique shop in 918 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:38,480 town. And, uh, he was very proud of his town. And, uh, so is my mother. And, uh, 919 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:45,120 thank you again. Um, I also happen to live uh at 643 RER Avenue and last house 920 01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:49,760 on the right uh on the way towards the field. Um, we've lived there for over 20 921 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:55,199 years. We love it. Uh, it's a great street, great community. Um, we have box 922 01:15:53,520 --> 01:16:00,719 seats for the baseball games, which is great. We love baseball. Um, we love 923 01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:04,320 soccer. I coached soccer for many years. Um, Sharon knows I spent a lot of time 924 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:09,280 down at Crows Woods trying to get those fields ready. There's a lot of issues 925 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:14,159 down at Crowswoods. I understand. Um, you know, not just drainage, but you 926 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:20,000 know, because it was an old dump, but uh that is our premier uh sports facility 927 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:26,000 in town. Uh unlike Rner, it's not surrounded by homes 928 01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:31,199 and uh it's uh it's lit. Uh it has lights. Um, so there's much more usage 929 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:37,920 and hopefully um, you know, Crowswoods can be uh, you 930 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:44,640 know, not pushed aside if if we if you go ahead with this Rner Field Complex, 931 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:47,520 uh, adding a couple more fields. Um, you know, hopefully you can do both at the 932 01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:53,360 same time is what I'm trying to say. But, um, you know, this town needs 933 01:16:50,800 --> 01:17:00,719 fields obviously. It's there's it's a big sports town. Grass fields uh are at 934 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:06,640 a premium and um we need to make sure we can maintain them if we build them. Um 935 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:12,960 the field maintenance, you know, the one guy down there is doing his best. Um but 936 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:18,880 he struggles uh because it's mostly one person down there maintaining all the 937 01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:22,800 sports fields for the for the school. um you know so there needs to be follow 938 01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:26,480 through with you know maybe he needs help uh if there's fields and uh the 939 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:33,040 drainage is going to be a big issue there. I don't want to reiterate what a 940 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:37,840 lot of other folks said uh but um the construction is going to be difficult 941 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:41,760 because it is so wet down there. Um I'm sure there's a plan to deal with it. Um 942 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:47,280 the little swale that runs around the field is insufficient. you know, it's 943 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:51,520 got to be uh you know, big- time engineered, way above my pay grade, but 944 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:58,000 um uh overall, you know, I think paving the 945 01:17:55,120 --> 01:18:02,640 parking lot um you know, which would be nice if keep the dust down. Our our 946 01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:08,000 cars, our homes get dusted because there's not proper gravel. It's mostly 947 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:12,080 dirt. Um, but paving it, making fixed parking spots will actually limit the 948 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:16,239 amount of parking that's down there because I forget how many count I 949 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:21,280 counted. Uh, say there was 50 parking spaces in the plan. There's literally 950 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:25,040 60, 65, 70 cars that can fit down there currently because there is no 951 01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:29,040 organization to the parking. So, people park just everywhere down there. So, 952 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:34,719 you're actually reducing the parking by paving it and making fixed parking 953 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:38,960 spots. Um, you know, I know it's all well and good. Uh, we we like the paving 954 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:43,120 would be nice again to keep the dust down and keep everything organized, but 955 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:48,560 again, it's going to reduce the parking spots. So, I heard somebody comment, you 956 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:52,080 know, imagine you're going to Philadelphia, you're late for a 957 01:18:50,159 --> 01:18:57,199 reservation, you're trying to find a parking spot. That's what we see every 958 01:18:54,480 --> 01:19:01,840 day. People are late for their kids games and they're driving down the 959 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:06,159 streets like crazy people. both, you know, Wayne, Rner, Farwood trying to 960 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:10,000 find a spot desperately to get to their game. Um, I understand the folks at 961 01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:14,080 Farwood, they're going to have a soccer field right in their front yard. Um, 962 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:20,320 they're not going to, people are not going to want to park at Rner 963 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:25,360 and walk over to, you know, uh, Farwood Avenue to watch their kids soccer. There 964 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:30,719 needs to be some parking address on that side of the field if this truly becomes 965 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:35,760 a sports complex. Again, this is a very unique situation, this field, because 966 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:41,440 it's surrounded 360 degrees by homes. Uh, Crowswoods, again, perfect scenario. 967 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:46,320 Very few homes in the surrounding area. It's got a its own access road. You go 968 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:51,760 down, you come back. It's got tons of parking and lights. So, priority Crows 969 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:58,159 Woods Rner, great idea. Maybe one soccer field. keep 970 01:19:55,199 --> 01:20:03,280 it up to date, keep it well drained, use it as overflow for Crows Woods, you 971 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:09,679 know, fix up the baseball fields if they need it. Um, anyway, thanks for your 972 01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:13,760 time and again, thank you so much for Hitchner Lane, Hitchner Alley. Our 973 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:17,440 family is here. We're sitting here on family vacation and we're just thrilled. 974 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,480 I'm glad my mother was there representing. Thanks again, 975 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:24,440 commissioners. >> Thanks, John. Yep. 976 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:31,840 All right. See no other comments. Uh the room is closed. Uh so we've we already 977 01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:38,120 closed the room. Now we're just closing online. Um so I will move to close 978 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,120 public comment. 979 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,800 Um 980 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,679 the state of New Jersey. 981 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:58,880 » No. Green Acres is a designation that we cannot build uh you you can't build 982 01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:01,679 buildings on that. It is permanently protected using green acres money. 983 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,400 That's what it means. >> It can be used for active or passive 984 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:09,520 recreation >> only. 985 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:12,960 Yes. All right. Uh I move to close public 986 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,760 comment. Second >> voting on that motion. Commissioner Troy 987 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:21,520 » in favor. >> Commissioner Sidell 988 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:26,000 » in favor. Uh we have no >> no we have no 989 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:33,600 » yeah we have we have no uh close session so we will open the floor to reporters 990 01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:40,800 and I see Liz online and no reporters in person so uh Liz floor's open for you. 991 01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:46,000 » Hi everyone. Um I just had a couple of questions pertaining to the agenda. Um 992 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:52,320 what is the municipal alliance coordinator services with the BOE? 993 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:58,080 » Sure. So the municipal alliance is the one of the few joint uh boards between 994 01:21:55,440 --> 01:22:03,520 the school board and the uh the burrow. It is drug and alcohol awareness 995 01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:10,960 education programming. Uh we the burrow provides the meeting space and the 996 01:22:06,719 --> 01:22:16,400 coordinator and the position and the the subsequent addition to our budget which 997 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:21,520 is the grant goes to pay the stipens uh for that program as well as stipens for 998 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:27,280 the high school, middle school, and elementary school reps from the school 999 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:32,480 district. Well, they pay their people, we pay our people, and then the rest of 1000 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:36,560 the money is for the programming itself. >> Okay. 1001 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:41,440 Um, can you tell me about the performance bond at Brandy Wine? What 1002 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:46,400 that is for exactly? >> Performance bond at Brandy Wine or the 1003 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:50,560 performance bond. There is a solid waste collection performance bond and the 1004 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:53,760 Cooper Health System at 100 Grow Street performance bonds. They're the only two 1005 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:58,639 on the agenda. And if it said Brandy Wine, that was my fault because I used 1006 01:22:55,679 --> 01:23:00,800 that resolution as my guide. >> Oh, okay. I see. 1007 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:05,040 » Yes. >> Yeah. On um resolution 100 it says it 1008 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:07,760 says brand new wine. Okay. >> Oh, yeah. No, good point. That was the 1009 01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:11,120 Cooper Health System at 100 Grove Street. 1010 01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:16,080 » Yep. I I will fix that. Liz, Liz, to explain that it when you have a large 1011 01:23:13,679 --> 01:23:20,719 project in town or you have a large contract, for example, for the solid 1012 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:24,639 waste, they have to put up a performance bond to ensure that all the work gets 1013 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:29,199 done. And then once the project is completed, it the performance bond is 1014 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:33,600 released and usually a maintenance bond is put in place. Um, with the solid 1015 01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:38,880 waste, it's not a maintenance bond because it's a new performance bond for 1016 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:45,679 the next year. Um, and so that's why we have to release the performance bond. 1017 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:50,159 » Okay. So, I guess I'm a little confused on how that works with the solid waste 1018 01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:53,920 and recycling materials collection service because 1019 01:23:51,679 --> 01:24:01,440 » so they they provide us a performance bond. So in case they go out of business 1020 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:06,320 mid year or um some other some other circumstance pops up where they cannot 1021 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:11,280 provide the service, we then go after their bond to help us pay for someone to 1022 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:16,159 complete the services they're not performing. 1023 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:20,480 » Okay. Okay. Understood. Um, >> and so just just to to to switch that 1024 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:26,000 over to Cooper to make sure you understand, it's if they it's to ensure 1025 01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:30,560 that the project that they've gotten approval for is built to the standards 1026 01:24:28,719 --> 01:24:35,600 it needs to be that it's been agreed to be built to. And if there's problems 1027 01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:39,120 with their contractor, we're able to go after the performance bond to pay to 1028 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:44,320 make sure to to make sure that project gets completed also. 1029 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:49,199 » Okay, makes sense. Um, I appreciate it. Thank you for your time. 1030 01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:56,480 » All right. Any other reporters online? I don't see any, but there's one that 1031 01:24:52,400 --> 01:25:00,800 just says iPhone, so I wasn't sure. Uh, >> all right. Uh, that's not an official 1032 01:24:58,719 --> 01:25:05,440 open and close, so I will make a motion to close the meeting. Second. 1033 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,280 » Voting on that motion. Commissioner Troy >> in favor. 1034 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:12,480 » Commissioner Sidel >> in favor. And again, thank you. SP 1035 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,320 » appreciate. >> Thank you. Take 1036 01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:16,320 » you