1 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Oh yeah. 2 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,680 » Yeah. Okay. 3 00:02:04,451 --> 00:02:07,126 [cough] [clears throat] 4 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,360 Thank you. 5 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,160 Okay, 6 00:02:23,446 --> 00:02:25,466 [clears throat] 7 00:02:31,961 --> 00:02:33,981 [snorts] 8 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,840 welcome [clears throat] to our time board meeting. 9 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:49,680 I'll make that motion. >> Second. [clears throat] 10 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:52,680 » All those in favor? I stand 11 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,160 als 12 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:10,599 One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 13 00:03:11,262 --> 00:03:13,282 [clears throat] 14 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:25,072 » At this time, like to have a moment of silence for Caroline 15 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:25,072 and Ali, please. [clears throat] 16 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Thank you. Okay. At this time, I would like to 17 00:03:50,319 --> 00:04:01,239 welcome our guest offer privilege. Let it be noted. We will offer secondary 18 00:03:57,112 --> 00:04:01,239 [clears throat] privilege of the floor. 19 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:10,267 Yes. [clears throat] Anyone like to speak at this time? 20 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:10,267 Ginger. [clears throat] 21 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:18,959 » Thank you. Um I wanted [clears throat] to bring up 22 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:27,440 I wanted to bring up the conference from 2025 again. Um I brought up my past 23 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:34,639 meetings. So when I go to the website and look at what it says, it actually 24 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:38,639 says the primary goal is to seek a balance between the need to guide future 25 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:43,600 growth with the need to preserve the characteristics that make a community 26 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:47,600 unique and special for residents. Provide the vision and essential 27 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:51,280 guidance. So a few actions that the town can 28 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:56,160 undertake to make sure the implementation strategy is carried out 29 00:04:53,759 --> 00:05:02,320 include there are three things. Assigning a small group to serve as the 30 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:07,600 2025 comprehensive plan implementation committee. Assign a project manager that 31 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,199 can organize a dedicated group of volunteers to steer the project 32 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:16,960 implementation. Request material contributions. Manage 33 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:22,560 grants and keep the town board informed. of potential grant opportunities. That's 34 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:29,120 the first thing. The second is to establish the 2025 comprehensive plan 35 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:32,639 update as a regular agenda item board meetings. The leader of the 36 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:38,400 comprehensive plan implementation committee provides progress reports on a 37 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:42,320 regular basis. And the third thing, and this is important because budgeting 38 00:05:39,919 --> 00:05:47,153 season is coming up, developing a special line item in the budget to meet 39 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:55,520 the cash match requirements for [clears throat] grant. So, and then it 40 00:05:49,919 --> 00:06:01,919 also lists the um any signature project. So, um I think I asked last time if that 41 00:05:59,919 --> 00:06:06,800 committee had been appointed and you said it had not. 42 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:11,280 Is that correct? I told you last time that not it's under 43 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:16,639 consideration. >> Okay. So that was in July. So it still 44 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:20,720 has the space. What I guess I'm asking what is the future of the comprehensive 45 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:27,240 plan? [clears throat] Is there um is there a plan to um implement it? 46 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:38,520 The town will be appointing the committee over the winter for our 47 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:47,759 brand award. And my thought at this time is that we should 48 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:52,639 sort of have that committee be more of a dual purpose uh committee 49 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:58,160 when that committee [clears throat] does get appointed. You know, we you know, we 50 00:06:54,880 --> 00:07:02,800 just finished updating chapter 4 comprehensive plan. 51 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:09,280 I think that the comprehensive [clears throat] plan and 52 00:07:05,039 --> 00:07:15,120 the current county zoning law might be slightly, but overall I think that we're 53 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:19,120 in good shape. >> So the dual purp What would the dual 54 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:23,360 purpose be? >> I'm just thinking that the committee 55 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:29,039 sometimes if we starting too many meetings there. You know, we we just had 56 00:07:25,599 --> 00:07:34,240 a committee that helped with the comprehensive plan the updating of 57 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:38,319 chapter 4 and just don't think that we're ready to 58 00:07:35,599 --> 00:07:44,639 start a new um new committee. 59 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:50,240 » Okay. So, these eight priority projects, would that committee then decide which 60 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:53,919 ones of those should move forward? I'm not trying to default. I'm just 61 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:58,319 trying to understand because I think the comprehensive plan is very important in 62 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:03,360 order to get grants. They um most grant um people that are 63 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:10,160 organization and government that are giving grants, they want to see a solid 64 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:14,400 comprehensive plan that also has aation process. 65 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:20,960 » Yeah. I think that our comprehensive plan is solid at this time. And um 66 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:25,039 did you have something to say? Um, would you be open? 67 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:29,280 » I'm just saying that we we operate by raising our hands here. I heard you 68 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:33,039 speak without raising your hand. No problem. 69 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:40,000 » Um, I think that our comprehensive plan is solid and the very point of the LWRP 70 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:45,200 is to help us more eligible us be more eligible for grants. And that 71 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:49,920 committee is going to be identifying different projects, different things and 72 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:54,480 trying to [clears throat] kind of help guide in the direction and the path that 73 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:59,726 we want to see it go in. >> So the LW 74 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:04,640 is is just for waterfront. Would that [clears throat] would include for 75 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:10,000 instance this is that right? >> I mean I'm not a grand expert. I I think 76 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:15,120 it certainly could. Um, I think it's it's a matter of footage from the lake 77 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:17,839 back. I mean, in a town like ours, it potentially could include most of town. 78 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:25,000 I think that's [clears throat] just a matter of 79 00:09:20,959 --> 00:09:25,000 » Okay. Thank you. 80 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:35,240 » Are there any questions? 81 00:09:42,959 --> 00:09:52,920 Are there any plans to actually implement the comprehensive plan and any 82 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,920 projects that are associated? 83 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:02,320 you know that the town is proceeding with projects 84 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:08,320 in a unprecedented aggressive approach and I think that 85 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:11,920 what we're might be seeing is maybe some people aren't happy with the projects 86 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,560 that have been selected. We're redoing the highway building. We got a grant to 87 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:23,680 put a new salt shed up which helps the lake. We got an award from the Warren 88 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:27,240 County Board of Supervisors for $150,000 in advance stand. 89 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:36,079 Um, new bathrooms are under consideration, but fiscally speaking, 90 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:45,200 the town is sort of at a point of trying to make wise choices and spend our money 91 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:48,959 somewhat slowly and methodically and make sure that we're there are grants 92 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:53,519 out there to help us with some of these bigger projects, 93 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:58,480 um, then we're going to find them. as far as this PEG historical 94 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,440 um library museum enhancement 95 00:11:00,902 --> 00:11:07,760 [clears throat] that or addition seems to be the topic 96 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,079 of conversation. No 97 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:15,440 » alone. >> Okay. This is something new that's come 98 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:20,240 up in the past year. We don't put multi-million dollar additions on the 99 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:26,320 down community center in the course of a year. We we just physically can't, you 100 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:31,839 know, we we don't have a town tax here. We all benefit from that. There are 633 101 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:36,240 towns in New York State. I said those before. We're one of 30 towns that 102 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:40,959 doesn't have a town tax. You need to pay attention to our dollars. That's just 103 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:46,800 kind of where my head is at. If there are grants that you want to identify 104 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:50,560 that you can go after, please do so. I'll be happy to try to engage our grant 105 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:55,600 writer [clears throat] and see if we can potentially, you know, 106 00:11:53,120 --> 00:12:03,560 come up with something that will work. But I I don't have a crystal ball. We're 107 00:11:57,839 --> 00:12:03,560 doing the best we can to move forward uh 108 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:09,399 as quick as we can while being fiscally responsible. 109 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:15,600 » Ginger, >> um I just wanted to clarify that um we 110 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:19,120 weren't talking just one of the eight projects. So, we definitely weren't 111 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:25,920 talking about that because we will be talking about that when um Jack gives 112 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:30,399 his historical society committ or his um historian historical society report. So, 113 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:35,920 we want to wait for that part of the meeting. So, this is really just looking 114 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:42,320 at the eight priority projects that were identified as part of the plan and what 115 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:47,680 how will they be selected, which ones to move forward with. I think we we are we 116 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:51,839 have Could you read out those eight? I don't have any credit card. 117 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:57,519 » Yeah, I'm happy to do that. >> The first one which I'm actually 118 00:12:53,920 --> 00:13:03,040 confused about is to do a feasibility study on beachside property which the 119 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:07,360 town doesn't own. So >> if you could just let's not do a Q&A 120 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:13,600 just if you could read the the >> Yeah, I'm not. So the second one is HEG 121 00:13:10,959 --> 00:13:18,639 historical museum expansion feasibility study. The third is HEG visitor center 122 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:24,000 redevelopment. Four is h town highway garage 123 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:30,800 renovation. Five is conduct housing needs assessment. Six is update zoning 124 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:38,320 code and site plan review regulations. Seven is pay long-term management 125 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:41,920 strategy. And eight is fun enhancements. I don't actually know. I do have a 126 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:46,399 question. Are these in order of priority? 127 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:49,839 No. Okay. So, you know, just, you know, off the top of my head, Ginger, by my 128 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:54,880 count, we're going after four simultaneously, 129 00:13:51,839 --> 00:14:00,320 right? Visitor center, highway, garage, egg, 130 00:13:57,199 --> 00:14:04,320 and town park enhancements. So, we've got four out of the eight. 131 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,560 That's That's pretty [music] good for your warm. 132 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:12,079 » Okay. Well, congratulations. Great. >> Appreciate that. 133 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:17,440 » Um, but going back to my original question or statement, shouldn't we be 134 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:21,920 having regular reports and updates from the committee because that was what was 135 00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:25,199 recommend recommended? >> Just a suggestion. [clears throat] 136 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:31,519 » Sure. At this time, it's not my recommendation to form a new committee, 137 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:38,600 » but I'm one member of the town board. >> Okay. [snorts] Thank you. 138 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,600 Um, anyone else? 139 00:14:40,985 --> 00:14:43,660 [cough] [clears throat] 140 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:51,120 » I don't know if it's time to say whatever you want to say. You know, I 141 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:56,399 just want to thank the town boys, Chad and 142 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:04,480 for putting up the fence to make the people who work at the boat's life. So, 143 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:09,519 I don't know how it where it came from. If they have it there, I don't know. But 144 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:13,600 whoever made it possible, I just want to publicly say thank you. 145 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,519 » The gate down, boys. >> You mean the gate at the launch? 146 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,519 » Yeah. >> Okay. 147 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:29,040 » Thank you, Patricia, for that. >> Who would you say responsible for that? 148 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,920 Um, >> I think the highway superintendent might 149 00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:40,800 miss that. >> Thank you. [clears throat] 150 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:46,320 » Okay. Um, anyone else at this time? >> All right. Moving on. Um, we have a 151 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:49,320 motion to approve the September warrant $49,81. 152 00:15:53,035 --> 00:15:58,275 [clears throat] >> Second. 153 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:05,560 » All those in favor? I [clears throat] 154 00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:05,560 next we have the general 155 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:12,639 work motion to approve the minutes for the August 11, 2026 town board meeting. 156 00:16:12,031 --> 00:16:16,199 [clears throat] >> I'll make that motion. 157 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:26,496 » I'll second it. All those in favor? 158 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:26,496 my characters [clears throat] 159 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:33,920 administrative. Um I will just say that my staff and I 160 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:40,240 uh start [cough] this year 2027 161 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:46,120 and we are actively making progress. Next building grounds and community 162 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,120 center enhance 163 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:59,279 council member Frasier is not here. Uh, I can tell you that we have a 164 00:16:55,759 --> 00:17:03,839 leak in the roof and we are having somebody come in to take a look at it 165 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:09,919 and uh try to get that fixed as soon as we can. 166 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:15,566 Next highway. That's um council member. Did you have any update for us for 167 00:17:11,919 --> 00:17:18,559 council member? No. [clears throat] 168 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:22,826 » Moving on. Planning zoning and storm water. Council member Cher. 169 00:17:20,806 --> 00:17:22,826 [clears throat] 170 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:31,160 » Oh, I apologize. Museum historian 171 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:38,679 » the Historical Society board met today 172 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:46,760 president and a number of board members are here tonight. 173 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:54,212 Thank you, Jack. Um, do you want me to take that? 174 00:17:53,120 --> 00:18:00,559 I I [snorts] speak loudly. [clears throat] 175 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:06,400 Okay. Um, so two things that we talk about today. Um, we in the courtroom, I 176 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:12,160 don't know if you all have seen it, but we have these amazing six huge plaques 177 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:18,400 about the history of pay that were professionally done for the bsentennial 178 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:23,760 in 2007 at considerable expense in the town. And most people don't know that we 179 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:28,080 have these or that they're there and they're they're fascinating. We're going 180 00:18:25,679 --> 00:18:34,559 to start publicizing them more. There's a sign on the door that says do not 181 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:41,120 dance. And I would like the town board to um recommend or to actually decree I 182 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:47,000 guess that that sign come down so that people can go into that room and look at 183 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:47,000 the class 184 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:56,720 that [cough] just be changed. Not everyone 185 00:18:54,559 --> 00:19:00,960 reported. I was going to ask what was the reason 186 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:07,400 for do not enter when court is in session. Is that why? 187 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,400 » No, but 188 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:14,000 » so then a simple fix would be to say when court is in session. 189 00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:21,840 » Yeah, I think the receptionist can handle anybody want to enter that room. 190 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:26,480 » Has anyone spoken to the judge? >> No, not yet. I mean 191 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:30,200 » don't see any problem with it but just as a matter of process 192 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:38,000 » the planning and zoning board they ask permission from the Josh 193 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:43,760 » yes >> oh they do okay 194 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:52,240 well thank you for taking care of that um okay so now getting back to the issue 195 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:57,200 with this building actually um we can't do anything about 196 00:19:54,480 --> 00:20:02,480 adding on to the building or [snorts] expanding the museum until this building 197 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:09,280 is brought up to code. And I I've brought this up before. This um building 198 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:16,240 is not to code. In fact, we have an email 199 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:21,600 from the county from 20 um 2006 200 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:24,160 that says um 201 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:35,039 when when the historical society at the time asked about adding on to building 202 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:38,960 and the the person that answered said originally I had not realized how large 203 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:43,200 the anticipation with the type of existing construction 204 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:49,039 involved the building is already larger than is allowed under current New York 205 00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:52,159 state building code is not it's thus not possible feasible for an addition to be 206 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,240 approved The only way it could be done would be 207 00:20:54,400 --> 00:21:01,544 for the entire building to be equipped with an automatic sprinkler system. So, 208 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:05,280 this building does not have sprinkler [clears throat] system. And I've 209 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:10,480 mentioned this before. I think it's a public safety issue. Um, we have large 210 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:14,960 meetings in this room. We have a lot of exercise classes, book club, lots of 211 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:20,559 people use this room. You've got all your staff back there. If there was a 212 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:28,080 fire, it could be a real problem. Secondly, we have amazing artifacts from 213 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Brooklyn to show um that would fill up in flame. This is a Civil War drum that 214 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:38,880 Mr. Clifton who started the Island Harbor 215 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:46,720 um brought he was a drummer boy in a civil war and he brought this drum sav 216 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:52,799 to fight and he was arrested or he was captured and in prison he escaped from 217 00:21:49,600 --> 00:22:00,480 it's a great story and um actually Jack has something to read about 218 00:21:55,360 --> 00:22:06,880 » Albert Graves joined the army about 1861 as a drummer He saw action. The wounded, 219 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:14,320 captured by the Confederates and put into living prison. He was one of a 220 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:19,760 hundred who funneled tunnel beneath a road and escaped. He returned to his 221 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:27,679 regiment, got into some trouble with the commanding officer, and went AWOL. 222 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:32,240 He walked back to Guilford, Vermont, and after changing his name to Albert 223 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:38,720 Clifton. To prevent being found by the feds, he 224 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:44,240 was taken under a load of hay to the vicinity of Bennington, Vermont. He 225 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:51,919 lived a few years in Shoreham during which time he married and fathered two 226 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:57,480 children. Before 1875 he came to H and was a guide in the Aderondex. 227 00:22:54,400 --> 00:23:02,960 He built the Island Harbor which [snorts] he ran until his death in 1903. 228 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:08,400 » Okay, so just a little history lesson and I know it's a little long but this 229 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:13,600 is just one of the many artifacts. We also have the town board minutes from 230 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:19,440 187 and after that they're in a vault which 231 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:26,880 is not fireproof. Nothing in this building is fire. I would say that is a 232 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:31,200 number one priority to have an engineering study done and I'm asking if 233 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:37,360 perhaps this could be a budget consideration have an engineering study 234 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:42,960 of this building done to understand what needs to be done to bring it up to I 235 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:47,679 know is looking into grants and stuff for all that stuff you mentioned 236 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:51,679 sprinkler system and the so what is being considered 237 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Okay, >> I'm looking into it. [clears throat] 238 00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:01,760 » Okay, I guess that's all we can ask for. Um, 239 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,640 yeah. [clears throat] Okay. Well, hopefully nothing happens. 240 00:24:06,256 --> 00:24:08,276 [cough] 241 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:21,840 » I'll [clears throat] just note that, you know, while I think it's important 242 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:25,279 protect our all of our historical artifacts. 243 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:30,400 No, I think when you start talking about an addition to the building and 244 00:24:27,679 --> 00:24:35,039 sprinkler system, I mean, it's it's not a foregone conclusion that the 245 00:24:32,456 --> 00:24:40,640 [clears throat] community wants addition to this building. I think that that 246 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:45,679 unfortunately does need to be pointed out to this room that it is not a 247 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:50,000 foregone conclusion. It's a community decision and we need to just keep that 248 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:55,520 in the back of our head. And I know you're not asking for a addition at this 249 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:59,919 time, but that's the direction we're sort of moving [clears throat] in. And 250 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:03,120 you know, these are budgetary considerations, 251 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:07,919 » right? But I do want to point out I'm separating them. I'm asking for a 252 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:11,760 feasibility study of what needs to be done to bring this building up to code. 253 00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:16,080 That's completely separate from putting an addition on it. And I might also 254 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:22,240 point out that we have paperwork that shows there was quite a lot of money 255 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:27,039 appropriated by the town board for an addition and a museum back in the early 256 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:30,640 2000s. We don't actually know what happened to that money. I think it went 257 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:36,000 back in the general fund. >> Mr. 258 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:42,240 I was um going to say what Ginger just said that you know as a board 259 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:46,640 we are much more concerned whether we get a museum or not about saving the 260 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:52,799 artifacts of the families of pagan and justices and um I think in addition to 261 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:57,440 all of that you have so much history in that 262 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:00,960 um I'm surprised that [cough] it's not fireproof 263 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:05,520 um but a sprinkler system system seems like 264 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:09,760 I mean since that's typically a thing in public buildings [cough] it seems like 265 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:15,159 that a good move to protect things you know 266 00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:15,159 museum 267 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,080 okay 268 00:26:19,223 --> 00:26:21,243 [cough] 269 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:37,520 um I was obviously in this building so I this system should be a priority and 270 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:47,960 also I can probably saying that that vault needs updating for sure running 271 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:47,960 airspace it must be in there um yeah 272 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,993 » personnel [clears throat] 273 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,360 the town is seeking to fill two open 274 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:05,360 positions We have open 275 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:11,840 on the planning board for alternate and also on the zoning board of appeals for 276 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:20,960 an alternate. The planning board resulted in the resignation 277 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:28,880 of Pam Peters. Pam has diligently served the town for quite a while and we thank 278 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:34,880 her for her service to the church. And Jamie Jordan who 279 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:43,120 was the alter for the planning board resigned and has applied for membership 280 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:47,120 member. We will take action on both of those 281 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:52,240 three action items [clears throat] in the rest of the meeting. So 282 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:59,080 application should be submitted for alternates to the planning board and to 283 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:59,080 the zoning board. 284 00:28:00,094 --> 00:28:05,919 [snorts] >> Thank you. Thank you. 285 00:28:04,679 --> 00:28:10,799 [clears throat] Okay. Um 286 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:16,080 officer public hearings coming up. 287 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,600 » Thank you. [clears throat] Recreation promotion from you. Council 288 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:25,120 members. >> Um only thing I have to say is the open 289 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:29,600 water swim was a great success. Um, we got a nice thank you from Chris 290 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:34,809 Boat from the event director for the open water slide for thanking us um for 291 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,679 contributing contributing [clears throat] 292 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:42,640 sorry and uh our assistance with it. And that's all [clears throat] I have for 293 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:47,200 that district. 294 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:53,679 Um Diane and John are working on a budget 295 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:57,760 um going into next year for the sewer, trying to tweak some, make some 296 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:03,520 adjustments. Um other than that, Cape Cod Village, 297 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:10,480 we're still working on getting that going with the ballards and 298 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:16,320 um inspections. So, we have a few more things to wrap up 299 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:21,279 there with the volumes, but we're 300 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:26,320 trying to make some progress there. That's about it. Everything else is is 301 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:29,885 more fine according to your John. >> Thank you for that. [clears throat] 302 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:37,679 » Um, had already mentioned, thank you to the 303 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:41,440 highway department for putting in the gate at the boat launch. 304 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:50,240 They had a good season this year. Lifeguards were all done for the for the 305 00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:55,200 year. Lunch was still a little bit Friday 12:00 to 5:00. Saturday and 306 00:29:52,080 --> 00:30:02,000 Sunday 8 to 5. Anything else you want to add? 307 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:07,200 » Nothing. We had people came to work. We had two life 308 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:11,200 was nice, but one couldn't make it, the other one went good. So, I think it 309 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,880 worked out well. I hope [clears throat] people will come back. 310 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:20,559 » Thank you, F, for all your help. You did a great job. Um, we will be working on a 311 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:25,840 loose problem. We'll figure something out for next year. 312 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:29,200 And uh the only other thing I'd say is um when we talk about the budget is 313 00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:34,039 maybe we're looking for someone to help time 314 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,039 season 315 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:41,760 and helping him with his responsibilities right but we can talk 316 00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:45,320 about that another time that's all I have 317 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,200 concern 318 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:59,080 with national So about 319 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,080 something that's going on right 320 00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:05,320 [laughter] here. We don't have to be out. 321 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:14,320 » Now I'll just add on to that. We did get a a formal response from high level 322 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:19,360 national leadership and she will be calling tomorrow 323 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:24,320 staff and my understanding from the highway superintendent is they already 324 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:29,039 had some of their professional tree experts out here sort 325 00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:34,320 of surveying the uh power lines. So it sounds as if we're moving in the right 326 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:40,480 direction and more and I can get more of a definitive on that. 327 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:46,799 more important. Thank you. Um, technology and 328 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:53,277 communications. Uh, I have nothing at this time. 329 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,320 School advisory committee. Council [clears throat] pass. 330 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:01,760 » Thank you. As you know, in February, we applied to 331 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,320 the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance for a special 332 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:12,640 equalization to correct what we believe is to be a 333 00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:22,159 unfair division of the school taxes within the school district. We submitted 334 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:28,559 additional information in um April and in May again. And then on 335 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:35,600 August 11th, we submitted a urgent appeal to do something to affect this 336 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:43,360 year's tax rate. On August 14th, 3 days later, we responsive for them and we 337 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:48,640 were denied our application. The town believes the decision relied on 338 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:54,880 a narrow calculation that failed completely to recognize a significant 339 00:32:50,880 --> 00:33:03,120 distortion in the tax base used to divide the taunder school taxes. On 340 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:08,240 August 24th, we were only given 14 calendar days to reply. [clears throat] 341 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:15,200 On August 24th, the town respectfully requested the Office of Real Property 342 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:23,039 Tax Services to reconsider its determination and to enter into either 343 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:29,600 one, establish a sailing special equalization rate for the town 344 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:37,200 and consistent with all the evidence that we supplied. or two, if the office 345 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:44,000 maintains that a segment rate is not the correct variable for the underassessment 346 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:47,279 that we have described in our submitts. Identify to us what is the corrective 347 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:54,559 administrative [clears throat] avenue and consistent with the laws and 348 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:58,480 procedures direct a data gathering necessary to resolve the underlying 349 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:05,440 inequity before the tax season. Now of course 350 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:10,399 that was on August 24th. Nothing has happened since then. We've not heard 351 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:16,720 back from then and we have a tax rate that has been declined. We will continue 352 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:23,928 to seek a response from the Office of Real Poverty Tax Services to our request 353 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,359 for their unsatisfactory determination [clears throat] 354 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:33,440 regarding the complaint to the controller. 355 00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:39,200 On June 12th, Supervisor Passion filed an official complaint within the New 356 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:47,280 York State Office of State Controller. As you know, the alleged poor systemic 357 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:53,280 and legal failures by the Nikon Central School District that have unfairly 358 00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:59,359 increase our paid taxpayer share of the school tax levy. And then on August 359 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,574 11th, we requested that they do something to affect this year's tax 360 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,040 rate. >> [clears throat] 361 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:14,320 » The very next day, um, we received a call to Josh from the 362 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:21,599 officer in charge in the Queensberry office of the audits and they advised 363 00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:28,119 Josh that an audit would not be done this year. He offered to talk to me and 364 00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:29,760 I called him and at my >> [clears throat] 365 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:36,400 » urging auditor said that he will seriously 366 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:43,520 consider quote seriously consider a request planning future audits and will 367 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:47,599 try to give us priority in at least 2027. 368 00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:52,880 So that's at this point 369 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:58,880 regarding pilot and host agreements. I I keep bringing this up because this has 370 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:03,359 to do with what we're eventually going to run into with the pilot payments 371 00:36:02,834 --> 00:36:09,599 [clears throat] that were coming to the P Conro school 372 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:14,560 district as a result of that Champlain Hudson power 373 00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:20,400 um equipment cable [clears throat] that runs right through Lake Champlain and 374 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:28,720 down Route 22. over there. In February, the town had 375 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:35,680 passed resolution number 62 opposing the change that the Taonder school district 376 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:40,160 had sponsored to change that agreement from a pilot agreement to a post 377 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:46,740 agreement. That just did not make any sense to us 378 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:55,359 because the way a pilot agreement is set [snorts] up governmental will set us in 379 00:36:51,440 --> 00:37:01,920 icon signatorries as having a high priority. If there is any default in a 380 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:07,359 host agreement, we would be last on the ones to get recognition. 381 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:14,000 And we've gotten seriously concerned about this situation. 382 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:19,680 Because the yeartoate, listen to this, the yeartoate capacity factor 383 00:37:16,850 --> 00:37:25,240 [clears throat] for CHP in New York City and it started in May is 12.2%. 384 00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:33,920 They have a contractual capacity factor of 95%. 385 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:38,240 And the questionable practice of greenwashing continues by CHP. 386 00:37:37,156 --> 00:37:43,920 [clears throat] And 387 00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:51,760 CHP's accumulated revenues lost because of this low capacity factor 388 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:58,800 exceed $288 million for failure to deliver in estimated 389 00:37:54,640 --> 00:38:02,880 total losses in excess of over $400 million. 390 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:10,079 That number happens to match their current working capital. And it appears 391 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:17,359 to us that CHP is going to run out of cash soon. 392 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:23,359 And in fact, CHP has already initiated tax litigation against 31 of the 393 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:31,521 jurisdictions along that line where the cable was installed in July of 2025. 394 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:37,440 Will tax litigation arrive in Tyono [clears throat] 395 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:41,680 soon? The wisdom of the Tyonoa school district who sponsored that change from 396 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:48,800 a pilot still is increasingly in fact 397 00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:54,240 questionable. And our inquiries seeking from the board of [clears throat] 398 00:38:49,920 --> 00:39:01,880 education a rationale status and risk management plans in case of this 399 00:38:56,240 --> 00:39:01,880 litigation have been met with Simon 400 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:11,119 regarding the battery energy storage system that has been uh we reported in 401 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:15,680 last month's meeting. Brookfield Corporation in New York State are 402 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:22,320 contemplating that hund00 million project. And as we reported last month, 403 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:29,920 we also opposed that is the town of H also proposed that um project per se. 404 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:38,320 And on October 7th, as I excuse me, August 7th, as I reported last month, 405 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:43,760 Josh sent to the Taonder school district and the board of education and the 406 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:50,000 county of Pyonova saying that we strongly oppose the 407 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:55,400 project, but if it proceeds, they believe tax breaks and other 408 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,400 financial benefits 409 00:39:55,839 --> 00:40:03,680 if [clears throat] they shift the cost to the taxpayer. 410 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:10,240 He is especially concerned that a payment in l of taxes that is a pilot 411 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:17,440 agreement could adversely affect the school taxes for the taxpayers of not 412 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:23,599 only hay but also for high condo. And so consistent with our resolution number 91 413 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:30,640 of 2024 two years ago when we requested to be 414 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:37,280 included in negotiations discussions on pilot agreements affecting our taxes. We 415 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:42,160 again requested plenty notice and participation in any future discussions 416 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:50,000 regarding a pilot [clears throat] for the best project. 417 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:57,520 We actually received a prompt reply from the Essex County IDA 418 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:04,640 industrial development agency, but I report that as of today, we have no 419 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:11,440 response from the town's Taonder or from the Tyonder Central School District or 420 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:17,599 the board of education for being included in [clears throat] being in 421 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:25,680 collaboration with them in have to be as you know our you got your school tax 422 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:32,240 bill probably on September 1st. Thank you again great 423 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:36,888 regarding getting these things out right on the due date and yes our tax rate is 424 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,880 3.2066 >> [snorts] 425 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:47,280 » 667 something per thousand and that is 426 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:53,520 56.6% of the school tax levy. 427 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:58,720 Finally, the regular September school board of education meeting is scheduled 428 00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:05,359 for next Tuesday a week from tonight. It will be on September 16th scheduled to 429 00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:10,839 start at 6:00 p.m. Be there. The only thing that influences them in any 430 00:42:07,019 --> 00:42:10,839 [clears throat] regard is somebody. 431 00:42:11,604 --> 00:42:18,160 [snorts] >> Thank you, Council Member Bast. Moving 432 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:24,079 on to new business. We have several different public 433 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:29,040 hearings that we need to set tonight. Um before we move on setting a public 434 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:38,040 hearing hearing, you give us a overview [clears throat] 435 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:38,040 on me at 11 Road. number 768-16. 436 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,920 » What was it? >> Um, 437 00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:50,680 » I maybe I'm pronouncing it wrong. 438 00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:06,679 » You don't >> [clears throat] 439 00:43:14,484 --> 00:43:19,124 [cough] >> line. 440 00:43:17,104 --> 00:43:19,124 [clears throat] 441 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,920 » Oh, here we go. 442 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,359 Okay. >> Okay. Um, [clears throat] what is the 443 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:46,480 pleasure of the board? Do we want to set the public hearing and let Mr. Trudeau 444 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:51,760 come in and let him skip the our normal breakfast? 445 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:58,880 Anyone from that town board entertain a motion to set a public hearing on the 446 00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:08,240 October 13 meeting for three waste force water system bearances 447 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:14,480 for 11 pane road number 76 28-1 >> make that motion 448 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:20,960 » all those in favor Mr. Would you please give us an overview 449 00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:26,590 now for back down at 240 tax number 6.8-19 450 00:44:24,570 --> 00:44:26,590 [cough and clears throat] 451 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:35,800 um just so you know it's going to be next on your list 240 silver room 452 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:43,839 these used to be at some point in history 453 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:49,440 lot. So it's the case that the lakefront law which is 240 more than a double um 454 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,400 there was ambiguity I believe on the placement of 455 00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:57,200 the [clears throat] original waste system that did not pass over the 456 00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:03,680 property. So the best solution we have for them now is 457 00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:10,920 system. Um the only thing would be located on the west side road 458 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,920 station. 459 00:45:12,386 --> 00:45:14,406 [clears throat] 460 00:45:20,246 --> 00:45:23,520 [clears throat] That's for McDall. 461 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:28,720 » That is >> okay. I'll consider that as an overview 462 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:33,599 from McDow. Anyone from the town board a motion to 463 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,599 set the public hearing for the October 13 464 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:46,560 at 240 tax map number 76.8-19. 465 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:51,599 » I'll make that motion. >> Second. [clears throat] 466 00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:57,040 » All those in favor? I told if you give us an overview for 467 00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:01,000 239 tax number 76.8-1. 468 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:08,880 » Sure. Um again [clears throat] I just mentioned that this used to be attached 469 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:17,200 to the lake from par. Um we are proposing a onsite system here 470 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:24,319 replace basically all um that meets no current criteria or 471 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:30,480 standards for onsite waste water. So we are having to ask for some variances to 472 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:34,000 set that the house. This will be moved instead of where the system used to be 473 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:38,280 to the east of the residence. We're now moving it west side of resize 474 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,319 setbacks to taste. 475 00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:55,280 It's a threebedroom system and like many of the ones that I come 476 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:59,152 here to visit you about that we're making a marked improvement over what's 477 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,172 there now. We also know that we cannot. [clears throat] 478 00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:08,480 Thanks for having us. >> Thank you, Mr. Holmes. 479 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:15,400 » Did anyone from the town board entertain a motion set public [clears throat] 480 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,400 hearing for the October 13 meeting 481 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:23,839 for 239 number 76-1? 482 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:28,682 » I'll make that motion. >> Second. 483 00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:28,682 All those in favor? [clears throat] 484 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:40,920 Next, Mr. Hol, could you give us no room for offer 9675 485 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:40,920 or draft map number 12.14-13? 486 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:51,200 » Uh, sure. Uh, this is a twobedroom seasonal residence uh right on More 487 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:57,359 Drive. They've got a small sliver of land between Lakeshore Drive and Lake as 488 00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:04,000 far as their access goes. Um mostly development of the property is on the 489 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:11,440 west side of 9 short drive. Uh again it's a small lot. Um so we do have a 490 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:14,960 fairly lengthy list of variances. It's not a number you haven't seen 491 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:21,680 before as far as the number of them goes. Uh and just so you're aware 492 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:27,520 actually the north side of this property and the south side of this property 493 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,520 replacement. 494 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:41,440 But we are able to propose a system that I believe will be perfectly appropriate 495 00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:47,920 and function longterm for property. We're going to be replacing the existing 496 00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:50,920 septic tank that's there along with system 497 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,280 board provides provides 498 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,760 any questions from the board 499 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:12,559 motion to set [clears throat] a public hearing for October 13 500 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:20,720 next board any or 13 waste water system variances for offerment 9675 501 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:23,720 make sure number 12.14-1-13 502 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,160 » I'll make that motion 503 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:37,040 » I'll second it all those in favor 504 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:43,119 » I [clears throat] um I assume Mr. You will be in touch 505 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:49,280 along this application to senior engineering 506 00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:54,400 doing that. >> Yep. 507 00:49:51,359 --> 00:50:01,440 » And soon there'll be some back and forth and hopefully we can come to the best. 508 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,960 » Y what was the date? Was this be next month? 509 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:09,760 » Yeah, October. And um just one last thing for the town 510 00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:14,079 board. [clears throat] Uh I'm not asking for 511 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:18,319 but you know just in speaking with Mr. Holmes a couple of times we're one of 512 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:23,680 the only townies that actually see the engineers come twice 513 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:28,000 come and do an overview and then we come to public hearing do an additional 514 00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:32,160 overview. Um maybe we just give it some thought. 515 00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:37,839 You know, do we want the engineers to always come to set the public hearing 516 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:41,280 and then come again to do the public hearing? You know, my experience 517 00:50:40,545 --> 00:50:45,520 [snorts] most of the time any questions happen at 518 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:52,319 the public hearing for the engineer to be able to uh answer effectively for 519 00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:56,319 anyone concerned about wastewater. But it's not like it's um this has just 520 00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:01,680 always been our process. It's not part of our our zoning law to my knowledge. 521 00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:05,800 It's just something to take into consideration going forward. 522 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:18,400 Um, [sighs] 523 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:24,160 next we have a motion to accept the resignation of CEO work Noel active 524 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:29,240 [snorts and clears throat] Thursday, August 27th, 2026. 525 00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:36,220 » So move second. 526 00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:42,559 » All those in favor? >> [clears throat] 527 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:48,720 » Um before we um move on to this uh next action item, I think it would be 528 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:55,160 appropriate that the town board and everyone watching. Oh, really everyone 529 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,160 recognize 530 00:51:55,870 --> 00:52:04,480 [clears throat] service on the board. 531 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:12,480 She served a very very long time. She was chairman and vice chair at 532 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:18,796 different points in time and she has served her town well and it's 533 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:22,240 pretty much a volunteer job is [clears throat] something very small but 534 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:28,480 this is something that takes a lot of effort consideration site visits 535 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:35,280 studying and help appreciate and understand our debt of 536 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,280 gratitude that we all these plans 537 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:49,079 I will move on with a motion to accept the resignation of planning board member 538 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:49,079 Peterson today [clears throat] 126 539 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:55,531 second. All those in favor >> I [clears throat] 540 00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:58,839 additional 541 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:08,640 make a motion to accept the resation 542 00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:13,160 of James Jordan as alternate to the planning board effectively today. 543 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:22,160 » I will second that. All those in favor? 544 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:28,226 » I [clears throat] >> I make a motion to approve the 545 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:34,000 appointment of Jamie Jordan as member [clears throat] of the town planning 546 00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:41,920 board and we filling the term of Peterson 547 00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:44,657 effective through December 202. I will second that. [clears throat] 548 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:49,480 All those in favor? I 549 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,160 » welcome to the planning board. 550 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:07,760 Um, next we have a resolution to set a public hearing on October 13, 2026 551 00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:15,119 concerning and proposed local law overriding the tax levy limit under New 552 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:20,880 York general municipal law section 3C for the town of pay for fiscal year 553 00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:24,640 2027. You're authorizing the town of Hay, 554 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:29,440 excuse me, the Haytown board after completing all required procedures for 555 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:34,480 the adoption of a budget to adopt a budget for fiscal year 2027 that 556 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:40,000 requires a tax levy that is greater and the tax levy will be calculated for 2027 557 00:54:38,312 --> 00:54:45,599 [clears throat] pursuant to general municipal law 558 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:50,880 section 3C. I think maybe it would be appropriate 559 00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:58,720 for me to just give a where we ask for a a motion on this um a little bit of 560 00:54:53,440 --> 00:55:04,960 overview for this. This tax cap override primarily is referring to the 561 00:55:03,203 --> 00:55:10,000 [clears throat] proposed u program that will be coming up for a 562 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,280 vote referendum in the November election. 563 00:55:13,028 --> 00:55:21,319 » [snorts] >> The LOAP program is an award program for 564 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,319 volunteer firefighters. 565 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,440 We will 566 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:37,839 not know if this will be accepted or not until after the election. So, the plan 567 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:43,599 at this point would be to wait to vote on the budget until after election day. 568 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:51,920 And should the budget or excuse me should the uh proposal pass the paint 569 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:58,720 then we will we will then fund it in the amount the 570 00:55:55,359 --> 00:56:03,119 town board uh establishes at budget time. 571 00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:07,760 The other thing to understand that I have not explained to the town board but 572 00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:13,680 I'm going to explain now theoretically you do not have to find it this year. We 573 00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:18,960 could wait and do this next year, but if we were to 574 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:26,079 start funding it this year, it would just salt the blow a little bit in 575 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:31,040 future years to come um for the most program. 576 00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:37,200 So, I mean, we we could postpone it, but then we're sort of like the next year 577 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:43,359 the town board would have to fund it more uh heavily, let's say. So, I was 578 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:49,440 just thinking it might be wise to start funding it this year. We don't even have 579 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:56,000 to fund it this year, but we could um take that under um 580 00:56:53,040 --> 00:57:01,000 consideration at budget time. Are there any questions from the time 581 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,000 board at this time? 582 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:07,760 » Postponing. If we postpone the year, that make it not effective for an 583 00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:13,440 additional year. >> No, it would be effective the same year. 584 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:19,400 It just um technically there's no obligation in year one until after next 585 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,400 year. 586 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:28,799 Fire department account essentially in our uh exactly what we're calling him, 587 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:33,839 but our kind of our money manager for the low side program. Um 588 00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:37,280 it's going to kind of just be keeping track of how much we have in that 589 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:41,359 account, what we need to charge in any given year from the program. I believe, 590 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:46,480 you know, [clears throat] I think we established that it was somewhere to the 591 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:53,079 tune of like an additional eight cents per thousand 592 00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:53,079 is what it would cost in year one. 593 00:57:53,119 --> 00:58:00,720 » Will actually 594 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:06,640 if we voted yes, it will be effective January 2027. 595 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:11,119 » Yes, that is correct. >> Thank you. 596 00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:14,280 Would anyone from the board like to make that motion? 597 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,680 So move. 598 00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:24,040 I'll second it. Any discussion? 599 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:32,160 » All those in favor? I carried. 600 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:37,920 » Next, we have a motion to set a special town board meeting for Thursday, October 601 00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:45,040 1st, for the purpose of setting budget meeting dates and for the town clerk to 602 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:50,079 present the tenative budget to the town. >> Time on that one. 603 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:53,559 » Give me one second. if you could please. 604 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:06,865 » Anyone want to make that motion? >> Second. 605 00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:11,200 » All those in favor? [clears throat] 606 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:16,960 » Anything before we move to privilege of the floor? Anything from the town board 607 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:21,920 at this time? [snorts] say his prayers should go out to the Z 608 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:27,640 family. All those boys that were in the football game. They just need a lot of 609 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,640 prayers. 610 00:59:30,446 --> 00:59:32,466 [clears throat] 611 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:39,119 Anything else from any member in the board? [clears throat] 612 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:43,799 Moving on to the guest privilege of 613 00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:54,480 I have a question if you will raise meeting 614 00:59:51,440 --> 01:00:01,920 tomorrow for years and years as we brought it down by 615 00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:06,079 the Chinese under power lines in town are always have always been clear from 616 01:00:04,506 --> 01:00:11,599 [clears throat] the wires. space under the wires until you get to 617 01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:18,400 about marketing and then from marketing on down it's a disaster and there's I 618 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:22,559 don't know why that would be and I wondering is it because they don't have 619 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:29,440 a right away to clear under there would you just ask them why that is and I I 620 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:35,920 suspect that that's the cause of many of our power outages 621 01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:40,960 » from marketing south right Yes. >> Isn't that a horizon issue? Cuz those 622 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,920 are all one of the horizon lines. It's below the power lines. You're talking 623 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,480 about the lower lines, right? >> Well, there's trees at whatever lines 624 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:52,079 are there, >> right? The lower section, not the upper. 625 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:57,160 The top lines are power lines and the lower lines are 626 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,160 » spectaccept. 627 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:23,960 There are some power that just have the line and there's some that have 628 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:34,520 a good question. We will be sure to lines. It's not just on the side. 629 01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:40,359 For sure that way for years. 630 01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:45,200 Yeah, we're really hoping to get some headway with the treatment. 631 01:01:44,067 --> 01:01:50,400 [clears throat] When I spoke with one of the reps, they 632 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:54,547 claim it's not a financial issue that they only have a very short window 633 01:01:52,319 --> 01:01:58,960 to operate [snorts] 634 01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:04,000 before winter. My response to that well it's not a financial window there's only 635 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:08,160 you know I'm hoping on the date that you know that season ends [clears throat] 636 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:17,640 first date 637 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:17,640 come so we're hoping that 638 01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:23,880 they dialogue is good hope 639 01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:34,160 can I see your hand up there's Um [clears throat] circling back to um the 640 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:40,799 the gas issue. So my understanding is that there's a research group um that is 641 01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:46,400 part of I believe the tide town board that is um conducting the research. They 642 01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:52,400 have um committee and they're assigned to various aspects of it. And it looks 643 01:02:48,960 --> 01:03:00,000 like to me um based on publications that they report out in a public forum um on 644 01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:04,720 a regular basis. And so my question is do you know if that's correct but in 645 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:08,359 public form and anybody can attend even if you don't live 646 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:24,960 » just having covered those meeting those meetings they are a public 647 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:28,319 meeting the public can attend there not a public comment session. 648 01:03:27,558 --> 01:03:33,453 » [clears throat] >> Okay. So there would be opportunity for 649 01:03:30,799 --> 01:03:35,474 people to go and to listen. [clears throat] 650 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,960 » Okay. 651 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:50,319 » Anyone else more online? >> Got one comment question from Jonathan 652 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:55,440 Jonathan Smith. Um, it would seem that the Ticonderoga school district will not 653 01:03:52,480 --> 01:04:01,200 respond to SACE inquiries because school district said previously that would only 654 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:05,440 respond to legally required responses. Would a freedom of information law 655 01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:11,359 request compel the school district to respond to SACE's recent requests 656 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:17,880 regarding the best project or would a freedom of information law be the wrong 657 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,880 tool to get a response? 658 01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:26,680 I would think so. Yes. 659 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,520 » Thanks. 660 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,119 No other questions from online. 661 01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:57,760 » Second. >> Nope. One more response to that last 662 01:04:54,319 --> 01:05:02,039 one. So will the will SACE file a freedom of information law request 663 01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:16,000 » for that information? >> Yes, we we'll we'll see. Right. Right. 664 01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:18,640 » Yes. If we don't get an answer shortly, we will. 665 01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:23,920 » Okay. [clears throat] >> Thanks. 666 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:29,880 » Yeah. We have a motion and a second on the floor to adjourn. 667 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,880 All those in favor?