1 00:00:09,324 --> 00:00:14,067 You are, you're good. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and 2 00:00:14,067 --> 00:00:20,728 they took my gavel away. So. There we go. Now 3 00:00:20,909 --> 00:00:25,608 we'll make it official and welcome to the last meeting 4 00:00:25,648 --> 00:00:30,448 of the summer of the Haldeman OPP Detachment Board. I 5 00:00:30,448 --> 00:00:33,368 hope everybody else had an enjoyable summer so far. It's 6 00:00:33,368 --> 00:00:39,268 coming to an end in much, much too soon. And 7 00:00:39,309 --> 00:00:45,848 also, I just want to remind members, myself included, that 8 00:00:46,109 --> 00:00:49,128 while we have a gallery of one by the look 9 00:00:49,168 --> 00:00:53,768 of it, thank you, thanks for attending. There are people 10 00:00:53,789 --> 00:00:56,808 who are watching this live, and there are people who 11 00:00:57,149 --> 00:01:02,248 will stream it at a later date, including the press. 12 00:01:02,248 --> 00:01:05,528 So I know it hasn't been an issue, but let's 13 00:01:05,549 --> 00:01:12,808 remember that we are open and transparent. Land acknowledgement. 14 00:01:19,243 --> 00:01:21,740 I. Forgot how to do my - Someone's still on 15 00:01:23,361 --> 00:01:28,733 summer vacation mode here. As we gather, we humbly acknowledge 16 00:01:29,314 --> 00:01:32,573 that Haldeman County sits on the ancestral land of many 17 00:01:32,594 --> 00:01:36,653 generations of indigenous nations who have been here since time 18 00:01:36,674 --> 00:01:40,173 immemorial. Today, this land continues to be home to many 19 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:44,013 indigenous peoples, including the Six Nations of the Grand River 20 00:01:44,114 --> 00:01:47,293 and the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nations, as well 21 00:01:47,293 --> 00:01:51,693 as non - Indigenous settlers from a variety of backgrounds. 22 00:01:51,693 --> 00:01:55,453 As a community, we have a shared responsibility for stewardship 23 00:01:55,474 --> 00:01:58,133 of the Land on which we live and work. We 24 00:01:58,274 --> 00:02:01,693 are grateful for the opportunity to work together and to 25 00:02:01,693 --> 00:02:06,838 share the land we all call home. Acknowledging reminds us 26 00:02:06,878 --> 00:02:10,278 that our living conditions are directly related to the abundant 27 00:02:10,299 --> 00:02:15,478 resources of the indigenous peoples. We commit to continue learning, 28 00:02:15,499 --> 00:02:19,238 reflecting on our past, and working in allyship with indigenous 29 00:02:19,419 --> 00:02:26,278 communities towards respective community goals and objectives in peace, respect, 30 00:02:26,278 --> 00:02:31,427 and friendship. The roll call has been taken, and we 31 00:02:31,467 --> 00:02:36,907 find a member of la form is not able to 32 00:02:37,128 --> 00:02:42,707 attend on other activities, actually, and she notified well ahead 33 00:02:42,808 --> 00:02:44,307 of time that she was not going to be able 34 00:02:44,307 --> 00:02:48,947 to attend. Have we heard from member Bentley? She advised, 35 00:02:48,947 --> 00:02:50,707 she's going to try to make it, but it's unlikely. 36 00:02:51,298 --> 00:02:53,677 She'll... Okay, she may be tied up on some of 37 00:02:53,698 --> 00:02:58,457 her other hat business. She may have joined us, she 38 00:02:58,457 --> 00:03:01,757 may not. And aside from that, and the Detachment Commander 39 00:03:01,797 --> 00:03:05,837 is all by himself this morning as well. So his 40 00:03:05,877 --> 00:03:10,797 staff sergeants are obviously on other duties. Any of them 41 00:03:10,898 --> 00:03:12,957 on summer breaks now, are they some of them are? 42 00:03:14,258 --> 00:03:23,160 Okay, thank you. Disclosure of pecuniary interests. None noted. Approval 43 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,082 of the previous meeting minutes. Motion that the minutes of 44 00:03:28,122 --> 00:03:32,642 the June 25, 2026 Haldeman OPP Detachment Board Meeting be 45 00:03:32,642 --> 00:03:40,144 adopted as circulated. Mover Shaw, second member McCaskill. All those 46 00:03:40,165 --> 00:03:48,633 in favor. Oppose that is Carrie unanimously. Next recommendation, looking 47 00:03:48,633 --> 00:03:50,393 for a mover in a seconder that the minutes of 48 00:03:50,393 --> 00:03:54,793 the closed session of the June 25th, 2026 Haldeman OPP 49 00:03:54,833 --> 00:04:00,713 Detachment Board meeting, be as adopted as circulated and remain 50 00:04:01,454 --> 00:04:11,322 confidential. Mover McKeen, Seconder. A membershaw. Questions 51 00:04:11,503 --> 00:04:17,059 or comments on that. None, all those in favor. Opposed 52 00:04:17,099 --> 00:04:23,476 that has carried unanimously. And next we move on to 53 00:04:23,497 --> 00:04:27,236 Delegations and Presentations, and we're pleased to have with us 54 00:04:27,337 --> 00:04:31,796 this morning, one of our partners in Crime Prevention and 55 00:04:31,836 --> 00:04:36,356 Safety in the Community. The Crime Stoppers have Haldeman and 56 00:04:36,617 --> 00:04:43,236 Norfolk, and we have listed on the agenda is the 57 00:04:43,737 --> 00:04:48,756 chair Lillian Wilson, but Amy Bernardo, the program coordinator will 58 00:04:48,857 --> 00:04:52,996 introduce who she has as a replacement instead. Welcome, ladies. 59 00:04:57,109 --> 00:04:59,808 Good morning, everybody. Thank you once again for having us 60 00:04:59,848 --> 00:05:03,168 this year. I'm going to introduce this is Tory Bertrand, 61 00:05:03,168 --> 00:05:07,359 and she's a board member with our program. Hello, thank 62 00:05:07,359 --> 00:05:10,559 you all for having me. This is my first time, 63 00:05:10,559 --> 00:05:14,079 so this is exciting stuff. Yes, I want to thank 64 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:16,639 you guys for having us here today. As a non 65 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:19,999 - profit charitable organisation, we continue to bring together the 66 00:05:20,020 --> 00:05:22,959 community, the media, and law enforcement in the fight against 67 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:25,759 crime. And we're pleased to provide an update on our 68 00:05:25,940 --> 00:05:30,639 annual achievements here today. So this is exciting. Um, this 69 00:05:30,740 --> 00:05:34,319 year, Mercs are 38th anniversary, a milestone that would not 70 00:05:34,359 --> 00:05:37,439 have been possible without the continued support and partnership of 71 00:05:37,479 --> 00:05:40,879 our local law enforcement agencies. We are proud of the 72 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:43,839 collaborative work we share in educating the public and raising 73 00:05:43,940 --> 00:05:48,639 awareness, surrounding illegal activity while promoting the values of safety, 74 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:52,959 empowerment, and inclusion throughout the communities. 2025 was again a 75 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:55,979 really good year for crime stoppers. We saw a lot 76 00:05:55,979 --> 00:06:00,559 of movement and more reports than in 2024, so that 77 00:06:00,559 --> 00:06:07,519 was good. Um, we had over, or we had 499 78 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:11,599 new reports, so that's an increase from 42 reports from 79 00:06:11,780 --> 00:06:17,199 2024. Um, these reports led to 31 arrests and 143 80 00:06:17,239 --> 00:06:21,839 charges being laid. In addition, crime stoppers tips assisted in 81 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:28,799 recovering 11, 800 dollars in property and seizing over 14600, 82 00:06:28,820 --> 00:06:32,719 000 dollars worth of substances, which is over twice the 83 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:37,359 amount seized in 2024 with our tips contributing to that. 84 00:06:37,460 --> 00:06:41,679 Um, and as an organisation, funded entirely through donations and 85 00:06:41,679 --> 00:06:44,639 grants, we continue to face ongoing challenges of sustaining our 86 00:06:44,740 --> 00:06:50,399 operations and reward program. In 2025 alone, crime stoppers authorized, 87 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:55,519 3, 475 in rewards for tips received. These rewards are 88 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:58,639 essential to the crime stoppers program and encourage those who 89 00:06:58,660 --> 00:07:01,799 have information to come forward. Um, so that's kind of 90 00:07:01,799 --> 00:07:05,919 the basis of our program. So obviously very important. Our 91 00:07:05,940 --> 00:07:10,479 fundraising efforts rely solely on the generosity of individuals, businesses, 92 00:07:10,580 --> 00:07:15,919 community organisations, um, our funding from 2025 came through our 93 00:07:15,940 --> 00:07:20,399 annual golf tournament, community barbecues, raffle ticket sales are shredding 94 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:27,234 events, and other charitable contributions such as yourselves. Um, our 95 00:07:27,274 --> 00:07:31,154 volunteer Board of Directors has grown in 2026. Uh, this 96 00:07:31,175 --> 00:07:34,674 year, actually I have taken over the rule of secretary. 97 00:07:34,674 --> 00:07:36,754 So after three years on the board, um, there was 98 00:07:36,754 --> 00:07:39,874 some movement for me there. Um, we have other new 99 00:07:40,215 --> 00:07:43,343 board members joining as well. So that's been awesome. Throughout 100 00:07:43,364 --> 00:07:47,263 the year, our board remains actively involved in local fairs, 101 00:07:47,263 --> 00:07:50,863 parades, and community events across Haldeman and Norfolk, promoting a 102 00:07:50,863 --> 00:07:54,943 program we deeply believe in. These events provide valuable opportunities 103 00:07:54,964 --> 00:07:59,103 to increase public awareness and encourage individuals to anonymously come 104 00:07:59,204 --> 00:08:02,783 forward with information that can help keep our communities safe. 105 00:08:03,364 --> 00:08:06,223 Crime stoppers is sincerely grateful for the support and donations 106 00:08:06,404 --> 00:08:10,943 previously provided by your organisation. And we respectfully ask that 107 00:08:10,983 --> 00:08:14,223 you consider a contribution of 5, 000 dollars to assist 108 00:08:14,564 --> 00:08:17,903 in continuing our work, sustaining our programs and strengthening our 109 00:08:17,924 --> 00:08:21,423 ongoing efforts in the fight against crime with our communities. 110 00:08:21,423 --> 00:08:25,471 Um, and thank you again for your consideration. Thank you 111 00:08:25,492 --> 00:08:33,641 very much. Any questions, comments to the presentation. Just want 112 00:08:33,641 --> 00:08:36,121 to check on a rumour out there. I understand that 113 00:08:36,782 --> 00:08:39,241 your recent golf tournament that you told me was extremely 114 00:08:39,582 --> 00:08:44,441 successful that Inspector Fox led the PAC. I mean, that's 115 00:08:44,481 --> 00:08:48,830 what he's been telling me. Um, we'll let him continue 116 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:51,846 to chat if that's what's happening. Um, but yes, our 117 00:08:51,886 --> 00:08:54,246 golf tournament was very successful and we just had it 118 00:08:54,286 --> 00:08:56,466 held at last Thursday at the greens of Renton. Um, 119 00:08:56,466 --> 00:09:00,006 we had a great turnout. It was very successful, yes. 120 00:09:00,267 --> 00:09:05,748 That's great. That's great. No further questions or comments. I 121 00:09:05,748 --> 00:09:10,028 do have a recommendation that I'm looking for a mover 122 00:09:10,068 --> 00:09:13,068 in a seconder that the Delegation from Crime Stoppers of 123 00:09:13,089 --> 00:09:17,228 Haldeman and Norfolk agree the 2025 annual update and funding 124 00:09:17,329 --> 00:09:22,028 request be received. And that they hauled up an OPP 125 00:09:22,049 --> 00:09:25,468 Detachment Board support the Crime Stoppers of Haldeman and Norfolk 126 00:09:25,489 --> 00:09:32,428 2026 initiative with a and its blank. So for our 127 00:09:32,428 --> 00:09:38,763 consideration, donation from the donations gift budget. Over in a 128 00:09:38,803 --> 00:09:42,203 secondary, and we'll fill in the blank. Um, member McCaskill, 129 00:09:42,203 --> 00:09:44,923 member McKeen. Stuart, would you like to fill in the 130 00:09:45,024 --> 00:09:53,101 blank or would you like further discussion. Okay. There we 131 00:09:53,101 --> 00:09:58,405 are. Um. Very quickly, uh, before we get to that 132 00:09:58,426 --> 00:10:03,765 blank, before I draw a blank, I command you, Anto 133 00:10:03,765 --> 00:10:07,445 Crime Stoppers. It's your own song Heroes, and we don't 134 00:10:07,866 --> 00:10:13,605 know names and faces, but we see results. You know, 135 00:10:13,605 --> 00:10:19,765 and I totally believe that without you're doing what you're 136 00:10:19,765 --> 00:10:24,805 doing beyond the direct results, the indirect repercussions of what 137 00:10:24,845 --> 00:10:29,045 you do that are a noticeable, are paramount. And that 138 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:32,405 is people know you're there. People know that crime stoppers 139 00:10:32,405 --> 00:10:36,085 is in the area. That prevents stuff before it happens. 140 00:10:36,186 --> 00:10:38,385 If we force somebody reports it. So thank you very 141 00:10:38,425 --> 00:10:41,785 much. And for your presentation. Back to the blank. I 142 00:10:41,785 --> 00:10:44,705 think the request was for 5, 000. Am I right? 143 00:10:46,738 --> 00:10:52,557 I support that and more, whatever the, uh, the council 144 00:10:52,738 --> 00:10:57,939 would suggest. I'm going to ask the administrator budget wise 145 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:05,934 where are we? So there are always budget considerations. Um, 146 00:11:06,295 --> 00:11:08,514 any amount that you're donating is coming out of the 147 00:11:08,695 --> 00:11:13,794 Board Reserve. Typically, um, for Crime Stoppers, we, they come 148 00:11:13,975 --> 00:11:21,314 and they request 5, 000 dollars. And in previous years, 149 00:11:21,314 --> 00:11:23,074 about 1, 200, I think that was up a little 150 00:11:23,074 --> 00:11:25,474 bit from the previous year. I'm not sure the rationale 151 00:11:25,514 --> 00:11:29,394 about the increase. I can imagine inflation was on everybody's 152 00:11:29,394 --> 00:11:33,074 mind. Um, so that's a, like it's really up to 153 00:11:33,114 --> 00:11:35,954 you folks to decide whether you feel that that amount 154 00:11:36,215 --> 00:11:40,994 is appropriate. Um, our budget for donations as far as 155 00:11:40,994 --> 00:11:45,634 that goes. Um, 5, 000 is significantly higher than typically 156 00:11:45,655 --> 00:11:48,754 we would have budgeted for this and for this donation. 157 00:11:48,754 --> 00:11:54,914 And we also did, um, uh, purchase those, uh, handheld 158 00:11:55,015 --> 00:11:58,194 radars for the OPP Detachment as well this year, which 159 00:11:58,375 --> 00:12:00,434 is, you know, again, it comes out of the reserve. 160 00:12:01,681 --> 00:12:03,580 If that's the direction you folks want to go in, 161 00:12:03,601 --> 00:12:05,900 it's your decision. I can't tell you what to do 162 00:12:05,921 --> 00:12:07,340 or not do. I can just tell you what we've 163 00:12:07,340 --> 00:12:09,420 done in the past and what the budget is built 164 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:11,020 to absorb. 165 00:12:27,286 --> 00:12:31,878 There we are. Um, understand that. And thank you, Sandra. 166 00:12:31,878 --> 00:12:34,278 And by the way, good to see you. We didn't 167 00:12:34,278 --> 00:12:37,798 have a chance to stop by before. The whatever then, 168 00:12:37,798 --> 00:12:41,078 I guess the blank would be because of the importance 169 00:12:41,118 --> 00:12:46,048 of crime stoppers throughout our community. Whatever the board could 170 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:50,688 have comfortably afford or even risking a bit of comfort, 171 00:12:50,688 --> 00:12:54,688 uh, that we proceed with whatever would the funding would 172 00:12:54,688 --> 00:12:59,290 allow for crime stoppers. And thank you. Okay. So the 173 00:12:59,290 --> 00:13:02,090 recommendation is for 5, 000 dollars at this particular point 174 00:13:02,271 --> 00:13:09,025 in time. Okay. Leave us all your hand. I'm sorry. 175 00:13:10,791 --> 00:13:14,690 Um, I, I am an accountant at heart. So I 176 00:13:15,751 --> 00:13:18,370 sadly would say that I think we should stick closer 177 00:13:18,410 --> 00:13:20,850 to the amount that we agreed on. I mean, if 178 00:13:21,031 --> 00:13:24,130 in future, that we find that we have a surplus, 179 00:13:24,130 --> 00:13:26,130 then we can always give more. We can't give if 180 00:13:26,130 --> 00:13:29,010 we don't have. If we're taking away from something else, 181 00:13:29,010 --> 00:13:33,650 then I would say closer to last year's amount, possibly 182 00:13:33,911 --> 00:13:37,570 1500. It may not be, you know, maybe not be 183 00:13:38,071 --> 00:13:40,930 the news that you want to hear. But I'm very 184 00:13:41,191 --> 00:13:47,010 physically minded. So it's a board decision. That's my opinion. 185 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:55,479 Okay. Uh, Ben, uh, just need a shot caller. 186 00:14:06,673 --> 00:14:10,332 So we have 5, 000 dollars, one recommendation. I let 187 00:14:10,332 --> 00:14:16,972 him recommend for, and I'm going to call them in 188 00:14:16,972 --> 00:14:25,269 the order that they were presented. All those who can 189 00:14:25,309 --> 00:14:31,989 support 1, 500 dollars. So it's 1, 500 dollars. 190 00:14:35,264 --> 00:14:36,603 You guys turn your microphone. Yes. 191 00:15:05,701 --> 00:15:06,995 It was. Never put on the floor. You didn't have 192 00:15:06,995 --> 00:15:11,981 a. No, it was left blank. Right. Right. Okay. So 193 00:15:12,002 --> 00:15:15,821 the motion that we have is that the Haldoman OPP 194 00:15:16,002 --> 00:15:19,581 part two clauses is that the Haldeman OPP Detachment Boards 195 00:15:19,762 --> 00:15:23,661 support the crime stoppers of Haldeman Norfolk 2026 initiative with 196 00:15:23,682 --> 00:15:29,341 a 1500 dollar donation from the donations, gifts, budget slash 197 00:15:29,381 --> 00:15:36,452 budget. Moved by member McCaskill, seconded by member McKeen. Right. 198 00:15:37,895 --> 00:15:41,788 Okay. And then we're going to vote on that. Let. 199 00:15:41,818 --> 00:15:45,068 It be amended. To 1500 dollars. Well, we didn't have 200 00:15:45,409 --> 00:15:49,228 any motion on the floor then other than the update. 201 00:15:49,257 --> 00:15:53,017 On the floor. That was blank. The blank. And you're 202 00:15:53,017 --> 00:15:55,834 changing the blank. You're amending the blank. And so you 203 00:15:55,834 --> 00:15:57,174 have to vote to amend the blank and then you 204 00:15:57,174 --> 00:16:00,234 have to go back to vote on the main motion. 205 00:16:00,234 --> 00:16:02,554 Just, just, just no wonder Donald Trump is as crazy 206 00:16:02,554 --> 00:16:10,165 as he is. Okay. So we need, you heard all 207 00:16:10,165 --> 00:16:12,965 of that. All those in favor of amending the emotion 208 00:16:12,986 --> 00:16:16,966 that never made it to the floor. Okay. The pose 209 00:16:16,987 --> 00:16:20,086 that's cared. That's carried. And now the amended motion is 210 00:16:20,126 --> 00:16:23,526 that Haldeman OPP Detachment Boards support the crime stoppers of 211 00:16:23,566 --> 00:16:28,326 Haldeman and Norfolk 2026 initiative with a 1500 dollar donation 212 00:16:28,427 --> 00:16:33,969 from the donation slash gifts budget. All those in favor 213 00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:38,509 that's moved in seconded by Stuart and by Deborah. All 214 00:16:38,509 --> 00:16:43,258 those in favor. Opposed that's carried unanimously. Thank you very 215 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:46,698 much, uh, ladies. I think you know what, what went 216 00:16:46,738 --> 00:16:49,658 on here. You're probably not too surprised, I would think 217 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:54,378 Amy either. There is one thing here. Okay. There is 218 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:57,258 one thing here though. And I wish the notation could 219 00:16:57,298 --> 00:17:03,098 be made here that we look at increasing our donations 220 00:17:03,359 --> 00:17:08,378 and gifts budget. Because this happens time and time again. 221 00:17:08,378 --> 00:17:10,138 And Amy, I don't have to tell you. I've been 222 00:17:10,138 --> 00:17:14,070 here for four years for requests every single time. We 223 00:17:14,571 --> 00:17:17,830 haven't got money. We haven't got money. And it's true. 224 00:17:17,830 --> 00:17:22,238 We don't. I support what was just done. I think 225 00:17:22,659 --> 00:17:26,158 it would not be in our best interest as a 226 00:17:26,179 --> 00:17:31,358 board to start taking money out of reserves that we 227 00:17:31,619 --> 00:17:34,318 know are not going to be replenished by new policy 228 00:17:34,419 --> 00:17:37,198 off the OPP at the higher level. At the government 229 00:17:37,299 --> 00:17:40,798 level actually. And that is that you no longer receive 230 00:17:41,219 --> 00:17:46,078 proceeds from auctions and surplus funding and things like that. 231 00:17:46,078 --> 00:17:50,318 So that's going to be zero in short order. And, 232 00:17:50,318 --> 00:17:55,358 uh, as you heard, uh, we purchased a couple of 233 00:17:55,699 --> 00:18:01,038 handheld radar guns for our detachment. Uh, good use of 234 00:18:01,038 --> 00:18:03,918 the money. And I'm sure that the detachment commander will 235 00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:08,878 have more good use of additional funds for next year 236 00:18:09,379 --> 00:18:13,198 as well. He should. Okay. Uh, Leslie, thank you for 237 00:18:13,238 --> 00:18:17,817 your patience. Hi Amy. Good to put a face to 238 00:18:17,857 --> 00:18:21,337 your name. I'm Councillor Leslie from Ms. Soggle Credit First 239 00:18:21,358 --> 00:18:23,977 Nations. And I know you did a presentation that I 240 00:18:24,078 --> 00:18:27,817 missed. Sorry about that. But I was wondering in your 241 00:18:27,817 --> 00:18:29,737 opinion, if you thought it went well. And if you 242 00:18:29,838 --> 00:18:33,657 ever considered reaching out to donations to Chief and Council. 243 00:18:37,171 --> 00:18:40,430 Yes. Um, I did a presentation a few weeks ago. 244 00:18:40,430 --> 00:18:42,350 I thought it went very well. Um, we did have 245 00:18:42,531 --> 00:18:45,310 quite a bit of engagement from the audience, which was 246 00:18:45,571 --> 00:18:47,950 fantastic and wonderful. That's what we want, right? We want 247 00:18:48,051 --> 00:18:51,550 questions. Um, and I went down there was for an 248 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:54,830 education piece, right to explain to the people what our 249 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:57,370 program is, who we are, what we're all about. Um, 250 00:18:57,971 --> 00:19:01,230 maybe to give peace of mind to some about anonymity, 251 00:19:01,230 --> 00:19:04,990 um, right. Anonymity is the heart of our program. That's 252 00:19:04,990 --> 00:19:07,710 not an option. Right. Anonymity is a must. Um, so 253 00:19:07,891 --> 00:19:10,910 I'm really trying to convey that message that when you 254 00:19:11,011 --> 00:19:13,950 call Crime Stoppers or submit via the web, it is 255 00:19:14,371 --> 00:19:19,653 a hundred percent anonymous. So yes, the, the, um, presentation 256 00:19:19,674 --> 00:19:23,253 went well, um, in terms of reaching out, or sorry, 257 00:19:23,253 --> 00:19:29,052 are you saying for funding? Is that what. You're. Going 258 00:19:29,052 --> 00:19:35,675 to do. Yeah. We got it. For our donation like 259 00:19:35,696 --> 00:19:39,319 you are approaching this board. I'm not going to lie 260 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,039 to you. I have not thought of that. Um, and 261 00:19:42,220 --> 00:19:44,839 that is certainly going to be a discussion. Um, we 262 00:19:44,940 --> 00:19:47,479 actually have a board meeting this evening, um, but that's 263 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:50,179 going to be a discussion that the, the board, um, 264 00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:52,299 I will definitely bring it forward. And the board can 265 00:19:52,299 --> 00:19:55,319 have that discussion. Um, so I'm not going to lie. 266 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,159 I have been the coordinator for about 10 years now. 267 00:19:59,159 --> 00:20:03,319 Um, and I'm working closely. I've worked closely with Rod 268 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,559 LeClaire concept of Rode LeClar for a while. Um, this 269 00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:07,959 is something that I'm, it's near and dear to my 270 00:20:07,959 --> 00:20:09,719 heart. I'm trying to get out there. We are trying 271 00:20:09,759 --> 00:20:14,599 to be more present in that the Mississauga, the credit. 272 00:20:14,639 --> 00:20:17,479 It's not an area that we've, or I have been, 273 00:20:17,479 --> 00:20:22,759 you know, two previous years. So I'm really hoping to, 274 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:24,439 to make it this way hence, you know, we did 275 00:20:24,439 --> 00:20:27,799 the presentations, et cetera. Um, I actually attended, um, at 276 00:20:27,839 --> 00:20:32,119 the Detachment just a couple of weeks ago. Um, uh, 277 00:20:32,620 --> 00:20:35,399 an information session, I guess you would say, um, an 278 00:20:35,399 --> 00:20:38,119 indigenous training kind of, um, and that was, it was 279 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,399 amazing. It was wonderful. Um, so I am hoping we 280 00:20:41,399 --> 00:20:43,239 are hoping the board to get out that way more 281 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:45,639 often. So that will be a discussion. I mean, Tori, 282 00:20:45,639 --> 00:20:47,399 as a board member is right here. This is something 283 00:20:47,399 --> 00:20:49,619 that will come forward tonight at our board meeting, um, 284 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:52,999 for sure that we would definitely. Thank you. Well, I 285 00:20:52,999 --> 00:20:59,399 know that Chief is wanting to promote the services more. 286 00:20:59,399 --> 00:21:01,959 And I know there's that fear and that trust. That's 287 00:21:01,959 --> 00:21:05,959 why we asked you to come do the presentation. And, 288 00:21:05,959 --> 00:21:07,879 um, yeah, because we want to try to help out 289 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:17,426 as much as we can as well. Who's the chair. 290 00:21:17,921 --> 00:21:23,754 I keep forgetting. Just to back up what you said 291 00:21:24,415 --> 00:21:29,274 and also to agree with Deborah. I understand fiscal constraints, 292 00:21:29,274 --> 00:21:34,634 but crime stoppers is crime stoppers. It's a prevention thing. 293 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:41,739 If we allow only funding, that's retroactive, i. e. what's 294 00:21:41,739 --> 00:21:45,930 happened past years. To allow us that luxury of that 295 00:21:45,970 --> 00:21:49,370 amount of funding fall short of the mark, in my 296 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:53,484 opinion. If we want to prevent crime, and this is 297 00:21:53,484 --> 00:21:57,644 a Haldeman County thing, not just any localized, if we 298 00:21:57,644 --> 00:22:02,044 want to prevent crime and deter the cost of taxpayers 299 00:22:02,385 --> 00:22:06,604 of further crime, it's well invested money. And wherever that 300 00:22:06,604 --> 00:22:11,964 might come from, from, from council or from any board, 301 00:22:11,964 --> 00:22:15,738 has huge merit, in my opinion. So that's where I 302 00:22:15,778 --> 00:22:17,818 stand with any of this. And thank you very much. 303 00:22:19,497 --> 00:22:22,116 Okay. Thank you very much. And again, thank you very 304 00:22:22,156 --> 00:22:25,556 much for your presentation and have a good rest of 305 00:22:25,556 --> 00:22:35,286 the summer. Moving ahead to the items for consideration, uh, 306 00:22:35,327 --> 00:22:42,185 next is the report from the Detachment Commander. Before we 307 00:22:42,185 --> 00:22:44,745 get into it, I'll look for a mover and a 308 00:22:44,745 --> 00:22:47,625 seconder that the report from the Detachment Manner for the 309 00:22:47,665 --> 00:22:50,985 months of June and July of 2026 be received as 310 00:22:51,246 --> 00:23:00,366 presented. Mover. Shaw, Secondar McKeen, thank you. And, uh, Inspector, 311 00:23:00,627 --> 00:23:07,223 Europe. Thank you, Chair. And through you. Good morning, everybody. 312 00:23:08,124 --> 00:23:12,103 Um, this report will be for two months, June and 313 00:23:12,143 --> 00:23:16,756 July. Uh, 2026. And I'm going to turn your attention 314 00:23:16,857 --> 00:23:18,836 to the first page of my report, which would be 315 00:23:18,937 --> 00:23:25,105 page 10. On your, uh, documentation there, I believe. Um, 316 00:23:25,286 --> 00:23:30,065 unfortunately, we had three fatal collisions. Um, in those two 317 00:23:30,105 --> 00:23:33,825 months, um, which is up significantly from last year. We 318 00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:37,825 only had one in that period of time. Um, currently 319 00:23:38,086 --> 00:23:45,186 we're sitting year to date. At four fatal collisions. Um. 320 00:23:46,678 --> 00:23:50,737 So there's been an increase, uh, from last year, unfortunately. 321 00:23:50,737 --> 00:23:53,137 Not as bad as 2024, but there has been an 322 00:23:53,177 --> 00:23:57,137 increase in fatal collisions from last year. Um, of significant 323 00:23:57,158 --> 00:24:00,177 note on page 11 there. Two of those three in 324 00:24:00,177 --> 00:24:04,337 the past two months were alcohol related. And I'll point 325 00:24:04,377 --> 00:24:08,257 out some stats in the following pages that way to 326 00:24:08,257 --> 00:24:11,856 allude to that a little bit. Um, so if I 327 00:24:11,856 --> 00:24:16,556 bring your attention to page 12 and your report, you 328 00:24:16,556 --> 00:24:18,576 see at the top, this talks about criminal code provincial 329 00:24:18,616 --> 00:24:23,276 statute charges laid. So criminal code non traffic. You'll see 330 00:24:23,276 --> 00:24:29,128 that's down about 50 percent. And I personally don't see 331 00:24:29,229 --> 00:24:31,448 that as a concern. I see that as, as a 332 00:24:31,448 --> 00:24:34,448 good thing because you're non - traffic, that's going to 333 00:24:34,448 --> 00:24:39,608 be your assaults, um, other criminal code offences. Um, causing 334 00:24:39,789 --> 00:24:42,648 victimization to the community. And the fact that those are 335 00:24:42,669 --> 00:24:45,528 down, I think is a good piece. And I'll speak 336 00:24:45,528 --> 00:24:47,508 to that when we get to the violent crime, uh, 337 00:24:47,508 --> 00:24:52,088 section as well. Um, criminal code traffic. You'll see through 338 00:24:52,829 --> 00:24:55,528 June and July, that's up a hundred percent. It's up 339 00:24:55,869 --> 00:25:03,360 20 from last year's June and July months. Um. Your 340 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000 criminal code traffic, most of those are going to be, 341 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 there could be disqualified drive, but most of those are 342 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,680 probably going to be impaired, uh, drug and alcohol related, 343 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,973 uh, charges. Um, so I think that speaks to, um, 344 00:25:16,334 --> 00:25:20,073 as we saw the two fatalities that were alcohol related, 345 00:25:20,073 --> 00:25:23,353 um, and further down the page, uh, before I discuss 346 00:25:23,454 --> 00:25:26,713 speeding, if you look at impaireds, you'll see that this 347 00:25:26,713 --> 00:25:29,993 year, uh, for June and July, we had 21 as 348 00:25:30,033 --> 00:25:33,753 opposed to 12 last reporting year. Um, so we have 349 00:25:33,793 --> 00:25:37,033 been, there has been an increase in impaired charges, whether 350 00:25:37,033 --> 00:25:40,553 that's through proactive or through the community calling in traffic 351 00:25:40,654 --> 00:25:44,873 complaints. Um, regarding possible impaired drivers. Um, we have seen 352 00:25:45,294 --> 00:25:51,617 an increase there. Just above that, you'll see the speeding 353 00:25:51,617 --> 00:25:54,497 charges for June and July compared to the last two 354 00:25:54,537 --> 00:25:57,857 years were up significantly for those two years. And I 355 00:25:57,857 --> 00:26:01,217 think as the Chair alluded to, uh, the two pieces 356 00:26:01,257 --> 00:26:04,497 of equipment, the light or the radars handheld radars that 357 00:26:04,497 --> 00:26:08,337 the board purchased was, uh, a significant investment for us 358 00:26:09,078 --> 00:26:13,926 to assist in, uh, in that category. The next page 359 00:26:13,966 --> 00:26:16,406 I wanted to bring you to would be 14 in 360 00:26:16,446 --> 00:26:18,999 your report. And that's the violent crime. Um, so this 361 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:22,999 is where you see assaults, um, compared to the last 362 00:26:23,020 --> 00:26:28,532 two years specifically last year are down. Significantly. That's the 363 00:26:28,572 --> 00:26:32,612 assault slash firearms related offences. Um, and they're down significantly. 364 00:26:32,612 --> 00:26:35,092 And I think that's why you would see the trend 365 00:26:35,273 --> 00:26:38,932 that I talked about on the previous page, uh, where 366 00:26:39,433 --> 00:26:41,812 criminal code non traffic charges were down. I think that's 367 00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:45,572 the correlation there because we've had less reported by the 368 00:26:45,593 --> 00:26:50,133 crime in those two months. Um, and year to date 369 00:26:50,554 --> 00:26:53,493 for Assault's firearms with a defence, as you can see, 370 00:26:53,594 --> 00:26:57,013 we're down compared to the last two years. Um, by 371 00:26:57,034 --> 00:27:03,482 39. 1 percent. On page 15 of the report. I 372 00:27:03,482 --> 00:27:05,042 want to bring to your attention because this will also 373 00:27:05,082 --> 00:27:08,862 come up in, uh, further agenda item later on. You 374 00:27:08,862 --> 00:27:11,662 will see for June and July theft under 5, 000. 375 00:27:12,724 --> 00:27:15,823 It's down from 62 last year to 43. So we've 376 00:27:15,823 --> 00:27:19,323 seen a decrease over those two months this year. Um, 377 00:27:19,684 --> 00:27:23,663 and year to date, uh, compared to last year, we're 378 00:27:23,663 --> 00:27:29,503 down 66 for theft over 5, 000. And I bring 379 00:27:29,503 --> 00:27:31,103 that one to your attention because a lot of times 380 00:27:31,204 --> 00:27:35,343 that relates to thus from vehicles, um, when we're getting 381 00:27:35,444 --> 00:27:38,739 hit for those pieces. Um, overall, if you look at 382 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,179 property crime, you're going to see there's decreases in every 383 00:27:42,219 --> 00:27:47,299 category, which is significant. Um, property crime is obviously one 384 00:27:47,339 --> 00:27:53,219 of the hardest crimes for solvability rate. Clearence rates that 385 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,739 is in the report as well. Um, that's why programs 386 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,699 like Crime Stoppers or so very important because they do 387 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,059 provide us some information that we sometimes lack in order 388 00:28:03,059 --> 00:28:12,114 to investigate those crimes. The next page I want to 389 00:28:12,114 --> 00:28:16,434 draw your attention to is page 20 in your report. 390 00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:22,382 The first part there is public complaints. Um. You'll see 391 00:28:22,403 --> 00:28:25,422 that there was three in those two months and they 392 00:28:25,422 --> 00:28:32,680 were in relation to, uh, conduct. Officer conduct. Further down 393 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,840 the page. The Inspector, just a comment or a question 394 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,600 on that. So there are three and they're currently being 395 00:28:42,701 --> 00:28:47,330 investigated. Is that? Yes, that's correct, Chair. And. It was 396 00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:53,430 the board made aware of the resolution of those whatever 397 00:28:54,011 --> 00:28:57,910 way it goes. At this point in time, there is 398 00:28:57,950 --> 00:29:01,970 nothing in our Detachment Board Report that provides that. Uh, 399 00:29:01,970 --> 00:29:05,430 I think we've discussed the previous meetings, uh, Inspector Heimers 400 00:29:05,851 --> 00:29:08,950 sits on a working group. He's the Detachment Commander in 401 00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:11,510 Oxford County. And he sits on our working group and 402 00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:13,990 he was going to bring this back so that hopefully 403 00:29:14,891 --> 00:29:17,350 if the monthly there would be kind of a year 404 00:29:17,371 --> 00:29:20,550 - end wrap up to kind of indicate whether any 405 00:29:20,590 --> 00:29:24,489 of these incidents were founded or unfounded. So he's bringing 406 00:29:24,510 --> 00:29:26,729 that forward to the working group and I'm not aware 407 00:29:26,769 --> 00:29:34,020 of any changes currently. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Continuing 408 00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:37,380 on daily activity reporting hours. You see there was an 409 00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:42,100 increase in patrol cruiser patrol hours, which is up to 410 00:29:42,361 --> 00:29:46,980 1, 811. Um, patrol marine hours. You'll see during those 411 00:29:47,001 --> 00:29:49,980 two months we had more. So we did receive, we 412 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:52,740 didn't receive any marine training this year. Um, last year 413 00:29:52,780 --> 00:29:56,420 we did have, I think, at least one, possibly two 414 00:29:56,601 --> 00:30:00,420 officers where marine trained, um, so we did increase some 415 00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:04,660 of the hours there from marine training. Um, ATV trading. 416 00:30:04,660 --> 00:30:06,420 You'll see there's been a decrease over the past two 417 00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:10,740 years. Uh, I've discussed this before in, uh, in previous 418 00:30:10,780 --> 00:30:15,060 meetings, uh, ATV training is, is very tough to get. 419 00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:19,860 Um, we're, we're constantly asking for seats on the course. 420 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:23,780 Unfortunately, um, a lot of our senior members are the 421 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:26,740 ones that are trained and they're either retiring or moving 422 00:30:26,921 --> 00:30:30,340 into positions. I was eight where I am ATV trained. 423 00:30:30,340 --> 00:30:32,260 Um, and just not in a position to get out 424 00:30:32,260 --> 00:30:35,220 there for some of those patrols. So unfortunately those are 425 00:30:36,041 --> 00:30:40,566 down compared to the last two years. Um, foot patrol 426 00:30:40,606 --> 00:30:47,041 hours, uh, you see that's, that's up and. It's not 427 00:30:47,041 --> 00:30:50,141 up a hundred. Sorry. It's at 159. 75 hours. So 428 00:30:50,141 --> 00:30:52,021 that is an increase over the past two years for 429 00:30:52,202 --> 00:30:54,901 foot patrol, which has been a priority of the board. 430 00:30:54,901 --> 00:30:57,941 So we keep working on that as well. Okay. Just 431 00:30:57,981 --> 00:31:05,399 on the patrols, uh, Inspector. And I can't totally recall 432 00:31:05,660 --> 00:31:09,239 now. Because in the last three, four days, as you 433 00:31:09,239 --> 00:31:13,719 know, I've received some emails that have been forward by 434 00:31:13,719 --> 00:31:20,034 some members of the board. And, uh, and, and from 435 00:31:20,034 --> 00:31:26,186 the county. And some of the concerns are that the 436 00:31:26,207 --> 00:31:29,306 community is saying, we're not seeing the officers and all 437 00:31:29,306 --> 00:31:37,066 that. And, and really from what you've just reported now. 438 00:31:37,066 --> 00:31:40,666 And in the last few months going back through my 439 00:31:40,666 --> 00:31:45,886 memory, going back. The cruiser patrol hours are up and 440 00:31:45,926 --> 00:31:49,917 they're up rather significantly. I mean, we've got an example 441 00:31:50,098 --> 00:31:55,757 here from, from, uh, 1400 to 1800. That's 400. That's 442 00:31:55,757 --> 00:32:01,357 pretty significant increase. Uh, and the foot patrols are up. 443 00:32:01,357 --> 00:32:03,197 Whether they're where they should be or not, but a 444 00:32:03,197 --> 00:32:05,037 lot of the concerns are, well, we're not seeing the 445 00:32:05,058 --> 00:32:10,585 police officers. I don't know how the Board addresses something 446 00:32:10,606 --> 00:32:15,225 like that. Um, or you address something like that when 447 00:32:15,225 --> 00:32:18,985 you receive the complaints, because they get transferred over to 448 00:32:18,985 --> 00:32:26,366 you, whether you have them or not. And I know 449 00:32:26,387 --> 00:32:30,446 figures can lie, but the figures that we have are 450 00:32:30,486 --> 00:32:35,083 showing that the opposite should be. The norm here. And 451 00:32:35,083 --> 00:32:37,103 it has been the norm for the past several months 452 00:32:37,924 --> 00:32:42,223 and possibly for the whole year. Um, any comments on 453 00:32:42,223 --> 00:32:45,583 that. I mean, it's through your chair. I think one 454 00:32:45,623 --> 00:32:48,783 comment I could definitely make. So vehicle patrol. That's going 455 00:32:48,783 --> 00:32:51,483 to be when an officer is on patrol, you know, 456 00:32:51,483 --> 00:32:54,383 in their zone going through neighbourhoods, um, let's be honest, 457 00:32:54,383 --> 00:32:56,223 we work 24 seven. So a lot of that could 458 00:32:56,263 --> 00:32:58,943 be at night when members are sleeping and they're not 459 00:32:58,943 --> 00:33:03,983 seeing that. Also, as you know, the increased traffic enforcement 460 00:33:04,084 --> 00:33:07,183 focus here in Haldeman County, uh, by the Detachment, which 461 00:33:07,183 --> 00:33:11,103 we've seen the, um, highway traffic stats and traffic enforcement 462 00:33:11,103 --> 00:33:14,023 stats have increased. When officers are doing any kind of 463 00:33:14,244 --> 00:33:18,463 proactive patrol for, uh, speed enforcement or anything like that. 464 00:33:18,503 --> 00:33:22,806 They're putting down vehicle patrol. So that kind of increase 465 00:33:22,827 --> 00:33:24,246 that you see in there is why you would see 466 00:33:24,347 --> 00:33:27,846 an increase in those patrol hours as well. Right. Um, 467 00:33:28,107 --> 00:33:31,426 unfortunately sometimes people say they don't see the police. And 468 00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:35,206 that's, uh, that's a perspective at that point in time. 469 00:33:35,206 --> 00:33:37,926 Right. I know I've travelled from my home up to 470 00:33:37,966 --> 00:33:40,086 Thunder Bay to see my son. And in that point 471 00:33:40,107 --> 00:33:42,406 in time, I never saw, you know, maybe a cruiser 472 00:33:42,446 --> 00:33:44,166 on the highway at that point in time. But they 473 00:33:44,166 --> 00:33:47,286 could have been off investigating somewhere else. And I mean, 474 00:33:48,027 --> 00:33:52,486 throughout your entire day, there's a perspective on that piece. 475 00:33:52,486 --> 00:33:55,206 I like the stats that we're showing. We are increasing 476 00:33:55,307 --> 00:33:58,726 the enforcement. We're, we're out there definitely as much as 477 00:33:58,766 --> 00:34:01,686 we can be. Um, we still have administrative components to 478 00:34:01,726 --> 00:34:05,846 look after, um, yeah, I think the officers have definitely 479 00:34:05,947 --> 00:34:10,299 been out in visible in the community. Have you made 480 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:16,036 this a priority with the Detachment. Visibility in the community. 481 00:34:17,323 --> 00:34:20,182 Yes, absolutely. And I think that the increase in vehicle 482 00:34:20,283 --> 00:34:25,114 patrol and foot patrol speaks to that. Um. Yeah, so 483 00:34:25,215 --> 00:34:27,320 a hundred percent, that's a priority for the community. Okay. 484 00:34:27,661 --> 00:34:30,280 And, and you and I meet on a regular basis 485 00:34:30,461 --> 00:34:33,060 and so on. So that answer doesn't surprise me. But 486 00:34:33,060 --> 00:34:35,960 I think we should get that on the record and 487 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,120 out into the public. That it is a priority with 488 00:34:40,141 --> 00:34:49,736 this detachment through you. That is correct. Leslie. Oh, sorry 489 00:34:49,997 --> 00:34:56,485 who was in. The history of microphone. Yep. She was 490 00:34:56,666 --> 00:35:01,322 asked. So in my opinion. Not seeing the OPP tells 491 00:35:01,362 --> 00:35:05,736 me that there's lack of crime. That's just my opinion. 492 00:35:05,736 --> 00:35:09,016 However, what he was stating is true. Like you might 493 00:35:09,016 --> 00:35:11,736 not see the OPP over here in Hagerzville, but they 494 00:35:11,736 --> 00:35:16,065 could be out in Dunville. That it's a big area 495 00:35:16,166 --> 00:35:18,545 that they have to cover. So not everyone is going 496 00:35:18,545 --> 00:35:20,865 to see them all the time. And that depends on 497 00:35:20,886 --> 00:35:25,825 the community's vision and what they mean by seeing them. 498 00:35:25,825 --> 00:35:28,545 Do they want them at all their events? That kind 499 00:35:28,545 --> 00:35:30,945 of scene where they want to see in roaming around, 500 00:35:30,945 --> 00:35:33,665 writing around. So it's, it takes into a whole bunch 501 00:35:33,665 --> 00:35:36,865 of factors. So as long as we know he's on 502 00:35:36,886 --> 00:35:42,746 the job, we got. It. Thanks, Leslie. Good point. Uh, 503 00:35:42,787 --> 00:35:48,323 Deborah. Um, I'm going to paraphrase the mayor. Hopefully I'm 504 00:35:48,323 --> 00:35:51,663 not misquoting her, but I believe she has had, um, 505 00:35:52,904 --> 00:35:56,403 voice conversations and possibly emails from members of the community 506 00:35:56,504 --> 00:35:59,603 that have said they've seen a noted increase in foot 507 00:35:59,643 --> 00:36:02,403 patrols in areas. And they're very happy for it. So 508 00:36:03,224 --> 00:36:06,403 it's not that you're not being noticed everywhere. Just that 509 00:36:06,403 --> 00:36:08,403 you may not be hearing about it. So I hope 510 00:36:08,443 --> 00:36:11,283 that I got that right, Shelly. So she gets back. 511 00:36:11,283 --> 00:36:14,718 She'll let me know. Thank you. And actually, I think 512 00:36:14,979 --> 00:36:19,358 I reported the last time when staff Sergeant Brown and 513 00:36:19,379 --> 00:36:24,078 I presented to the annual report to the council, every 514 00:36:24,078 --> 00:36:27,598 member of council who spoke. And that was everyone but 515 00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:33,678 one said that they had seen an increased visible presence. 516 00:36:34,804 --> 00:36:36,943 Because that was really good news. I think I reported 517 00:36:36,964 --> 00:36:41,743 that back at our last meeting. So, um, but however, 518 00:36:41,924 --> 00:36:45,903 the people are saying, I'm not seeing, I'm not sin. 519 00:36:45,903 --> 00:36:51,503 That can't be discounted either. But it's lessly points out. 520 00:36:51,503 --> 00:36:56,401 You can't be everywhere all the time. Go ahead, Inspector. 521 00:36:59,701 --> 00:37:06,935 Stewart, I'm sorry. Through the chair. Agree with everybody. One 522 00:37:06,935 --> 00:37:11,755 thing personally, I've seen a big increase in our little 523 00:37:11,856 --> 00:37:14,555 rural area, around the only perked over. And I go 524 00:37:14,555 --> 00:37:15,915 up and down the cost of a year, I get 525 00:37:15,915 --> 00:37:18,955 all the way up to Dunville and to Port Rowan. 526 00:37:18,955 --> 00:37:22,635 And I've seen a marked increase. And sometimes you won't 527 00:37:22,635 --> 00:37:28,023 see them because they're in Unmark cruisers. And so watch 528 00:37:28,044 --> 00:37:31,623 your gas pedal. But I think it's working very, very 529 00:37:31,623 --> 00:37:35,523 well. And, uh, the crime is down, obviously. And, uh, 530 00:37:35,884 --> 00:37:39,063 except for the, that's going to happen with booze. So 531 00:37:39,103 --> 00:37:45,732 thank you very much. No, congratulations. Okay. Inspector. Thanks Chair. 532 00:37:45,732 --> 00:37:47,012 And through you and to a point you just made 533 00:37:47,012 --> 00:37:51,652 there. Right. Every, um, concern that's brought forward by a 534 00:37:51,692 --> 00:37:54,032 member of the community here in Haldeman. It's definitely not 535 00:37:54,713 --> 00:37:56,932 discounted because I feel that we're out there. We might 536 00:37:56,972 --> 00:38:00,452 not be aware of concerns going on in certain areas. 537 00:38:00,452 --> 00:38:03,252 So if that's brought forward, that's where we can do, 538 00:38:03,252 --> 00:38:06,292 uh, analysis and see, have we been spending any time 539 00:38:06,713 --> 00:38:13,972 there is the concern validated by some of the analytics 540 00:38:14,012 --> 00:38:16,612 that we have that people have been reporting it and 541 00:38:16,612 --> 00:38:18,052 it has been addressed. And then we will try to 542 00:38:18,313 --> 00:38:22,452 refocus, uh, resources appropriately for to address some of these 543 00:38:22,553 --> 00:38:30,984 concerns, um, as available. Continue on 544 00:38:32,285 --> 00:38:35,573 page 23 in your report. Even though this is for 545 00:38:35,573 --> 00:38:38,133 Haldon County, I'll be speaking to this with, uh, when 546 00:38:38,133 --> 00:38:40,613 I quickly go through the MCFN report, um, this is 547 00:38:40,634 --> 00:38:44,773 obviously a concern, uh, which is our over to dose 548 00:38:44,874 --> 00:38:49,553 occurrences. In June, July, there was one, uh, fatal. And 549 00:38:49,553 --> 00:38:52,533 that was opioid or that was Don OPI to overdose. 550 00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:55,973 But there was also two non fatal. And those were 551 00:38:56,013 --> 00:38:59,813 both opioid overdoses. And the concern is looking obviously at 552 00:38:59,853 --> 00:39:02,613 year to date. And when you're comparing to the past 553 00:39:02,714 --> 00:39:08,613 24 and 25, um, there's large increases there given the 554 00:39:08,653 --> 00:39:14,853 circumstances, uh, with eight now fatals in 2026. Um, four 555 00:39:14,954 --> 00:39:20,853 non opioid and for opioid overdose. And, um, I'll be 556 00:39:20,853 --> 00:39:22,773 honest with you, some of those stats, as far as 557 00:39:22,794 --> 00:39:25,813 whether they're opioid or non - opioid, those could change 558 00:39:25,914 --> 00:39:29,653 as we get, uh, information back from the centre of 559 00:39:29,834 --> 00:39:34,613 forensic sciences, on the toxicology reports, um, from the fatal 560 00:39:34,613 --> 00:39:37,553 occurrences. Um, and the non - fatal, as you can 561 00:39:37,553 --> 00:39:43,431 see, 11 of those were, uh, opioid overdose occurrences. Uh, 562 00:39:43,612 --> 00:39:45,911 so what I can say, you know, I've mentioned in 563 00:39:45,911 --> 00:39:49,477 the past, we do have, uh. I'm just going to 564 00:39:49,778 --> 00:39:52,077 bring up that piece right now from crying. We have 565 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:55,997 our, uh, criminal investigations branch and other, uh, OPP supports 566 00:39:56,098 --> 00:39:59,037 involved. But just as a follow - up from our, 567 00:39:59,037 --> 00:40:03,597 uh, Detective Crime Sergeant, uh, regarding opiate overdoses, um, so 568 00:40:03,858 --> 00:40:08,777 postmortem and toxicology reports have concluded the fentanyl, fluorofental, uh, 569 00:40:08,777 --> 00:40:11,437 which I wasn't aware of. Another illicit drugs were directly 570 00:40:11,698 --> 00:40:14,477 attributed to the fatal and non - fatal overdoses in 571 00:40:14,498 --> 00:40:17,997 Halloween County. Um, and our investigators are continuing to work 572 00:40:18,018 --> 00:40:23,573 with Regional Municipal Police Agencies. You know, it transcends into 573 00:40:23,674 --> 00:40:28,933 different service areas. And our OPP support services mainly our 574 00:40:28,954 --> 00:40:32,613 criminal investigations brand and analytics in order to identify the 575 00:40:32,634 --> 00:40:37,493 traffickers of illicit substances. So this is an ongoing piece. 576 00:40:37,493 --> 00:40:40,293 Um, obviously if we get any crime stoppers tips as 577 00:40:40,293 --> 00:40:43,173 well, that's, that's a big, big help. But I know 578 00:40:44,394 --> 00:40:47,493 our community street team as well as our crime unit 579 00:40:47,754 --> 00:40:51,964 are both engaged in. Our fatal overdoses and non - 580 00:40:51,964 --> 00:40:54,844 fatal overdoses here in Haldeman County. 581 00:41:02,784 --> 00:41:05,883 Moving on to the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nation 582 00:41:05,904 --> 00:41:11,318 report. I didn't see any concerning trends. I'm going to 583 00:41:11,379 --> 00:41:16,398 bring your attention to page 30. Um, that's the violent 584 00:41:16,419 --> 00:41:22,231 crime. There was, uh, two assaults, firearms related occurrences in 585 00:41:22,271 --> 00:41:27,007 2026. But not a serious bike that I have any 586 00:41:27,028 --> 00:41:33,682 concerning trends. Well, Mr. Credit First Nation, uh, property crime, 587 00:41:34,663 --> 00:41:36,682 there wasn't a lot of property crime report. I think 588 00:41:36,682 --> 00:41:38,802 three incidents total for the months of June and July. 589 00:41:41,490 --> 00:41:44,807 And then. The last piece in there I want to 590 00:41:44,807 --> 00:41:47,567 bring your attention to is on credit first station. There 591 00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:51,887 was, uh, fatal overdose between June and July, uh, and 592 00:41:51,927 --> 00:41:56,127 one non fatal, um, overdose as well. So two for 593 00:41:57,188 --> 00:42:00,287 Miss Sucker credit First Nation, which we know is a 594 00:42:00,327 --> 00:42:09,588 small population based on the territory itself. Any further questions 595 00:42:09,849 --> 00:42:14,352 or comments. Okay. Go ahead, Inspector. All right. I'm just 596 00:42:14,352 --> 00:42:17,952 going to continue on with, uh, the verbal piece where 597 00:42:17,952 --> 00:42:20,752 I provide information from some of our, uh, specialty positions 598 00:42:20,792 --> 00:42:24,347 within the Detachment. Um, first of all, for a stat, 599 00:42:24,347 --> 00:42:26,507 right events, which I know is not in our board 600 00:42:26,547 --> 00:42:30,107 report, um, for the last two months, uh, we had 601 00:42:30,528 --> 00:42:35,067 140 compared to 95 in 2025. And year to date, 602 00:42:35,067 --> 00:42:39,707 I think we've had officers involved in 539 right events. 603 00:42:39,707 --> 00:42:43,067 And the previous year to date was 383 right events. 604 00:42:45,042 --> 00:42:47,641 Um, so I don't have any information report from, uh, 605 00:42:47,682 --> 00:42:51,401 PC Tyler Loney. He's our new community engagement officer. Uh, 606 00:42:51,401 --> 00:42:53,901 he's still getting his feet wet and getting into this. 607 00:42:54,318 --> 00:42:57,842 And so I'll have more information to report. In September 608 00:42:57,943 --> 00:43:03,232 from PC Loany. Uh, PC Graham Remple. He's our. 609 00:43:11,754 --> 00:43:14,613 Member miracle. We've got a new system apparently that they 610 00:43:14,794 --> 00:43:21,488 put in place over the summer break. Oh, it'll be 611 00:43:21,488 --> 00:43:25,592 much better next time. I just wanted to comment on, 612 00:43:25,592 --> 00:43:31,599 um, Detective Tyler. Inspector Tyler. The gentleman who you just 613 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:33,679 spoke about that you had no report on. I know 614 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,399 he has been in contact with some members of Ms. 615 00:43:36,439 --> 00:43:41,359 Alakera First Nation to do some, uh, collaborating on some 616 00:43:41,399 --> 00:43:46,894 assistants with safety, uh, teachings, I guess. So, so that 617 00:43:46,915 --> 00:43:51,322 is one thing that I know he is doing. Thank 618 00:43:51,362 --> 00:43:55,322 you, Member Miracle. Yes, PC Loni, uh, he's been very 619 00:43:55,343 --> 00:43:59,082 busy. Uh, he's been very engaged with our yippee student, 620 00:43:59,082 --> 00:44:03,082 few other things. So he just was not privy that 621 00:44:03,122 --> 00:44:06,202 he needed to report back to me, uh, in, in 622 00:44:06,242 --> 00:44:08,522 a timely fashion for this PC. And due to holidays 623 00:44:08,562 --> 00:44:12,282 with our Detachment Administrative clerk as well as PC Loni, 624 00:44:12,282 --> 00:44:13,942 uh, that's why I didn't have anything to report. But 625 00:44:13,942 --> 00:44:16,522 no, he's been very engaged. Um, he's doing a lot. 626 00:44:16,522 --> 00:44:18,682 I believe he was, this would come up in the 627 00:44:18,682 --> 00:44:20,442 next report because it was August. I know he's been 628 00:44:20,463 --> 00:44:23,802 out on Ms. Sucker credit First Nation a few times, 629 00:44:23,802 --> 00:44:26,122 uh, been very engaged with the UFP student. We have 630 00:44:26,162 --> 00:44:28,522 this summer, her last day is actually today. And I 631 00:44:28,522 --> 00:44:31,802 think that, uh, they're organised in a barbecue for her, 632 00:44:31,802 --> 00:44:34,682 uh, for her last day today. Um, and I think, 633 00:44:34,682 --> 00:44:37,802 uh, she'll do quite well if she's still looking towards 634 00:44:37,983 --> 00:44:40,982 a career in law enforcement. So hopefully we encouraged her 635 00:44:40,982 --> 00:44:50,136 for that. Um. Member McKeen. Thanks. I also wanted to 636 00:44:50,637 --> 00:44:54,456 comment on your officer that's doing a liaisoning. He wasn't 637 00:44:54,456 --> 00:44:57,496 able to make the community watch meeting in Selkirk because 638 00:44:57,536 --> 00:45:01,416 he was already otherwise engaged, but he did contact the 639 00:45:01,597 --> 00:45:04,536 organiser and, uh, they had some great conversation and he's 640 00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:06,536 going to try and make another meeting. So I can 641 00:45:06,637 --> 00:45:09,496 say that he has been, he has been out and 642 00:45:09,496 --> 00:45:11,896 about in the community, uh, we're really happy to have 643 00:45:11,936 --> 00:45:20,988 him. Thank you, Member McCree. Um, so PC Graham Bremple, 644 00:45:20,988 --> 00:45:24,508 he's our mental health liaison officer. Uh, he was very 645 00:45:24,508 --> 00:45:27,788 busy in the months of June and July supporting people. 646 00:45:27,788 --> 00:45:29,788 And I'm going to highlight a few things here for 647 00:45:29,809 --> 00:45:33,148 homeless prevention. So he continued collaboration with homeless prevention services 648 00:45:33,169 --> 00:45:37,628 with the county, uh, to support two individuals experiencing homelessness. 649 00:45:37,628 --> 00:45:40,248 One was in Dunville and one was in Caledonia. Um, 650 00:45:40,289 --> 00:45:45,628 both individuals were provided with available supports and resources. Unfortunately, 651 00:45:45,649 --> 00:45:49,128 both declined any assistants at this point in time, uh, 652 00:45:49,128 --> 00:45:52,748 but he, uh, is poised to stay engaged with them 653 00:45:53,329 --> 00:45:58,828 in the near future. Um, our MSERT team, um, they 654 00:45:59,569 --> 00:46:02,748 met with a homeless prevention team at the Star Motel, 655 00:46:02,748 --> 00:46:05,228 uh, which is just outside of Jarvis. They had to, 656 00:46:05,228 --> 00:46:09,945 uh, figure out in an exit. Different location for an 657 00:46:09,966 --> 00:46:13,385 unwanted client there who is not following the program rules. 658 00:46:13,385 --> 00:46:15,945 Um, so there was an eviction there from the Star 659 00:46:15,945 --> 00:46:19,145 Motel, but they were able to find another place for 660 00:46:19,246 --> 00:46:24,651 this individual. Um. He is also very gauged in mental 661 00:46:24,672 --> 00:46:30,891 health training. So under the CSPA, the mental health training 662 00:46:30,891 --> 00:46:34,251 that every officer has to take, um, the OPP were 663 00:46:34,251 --> 00:46:37,851 engaged with Laurier University and it's for the, uh, mental 664 00:46:37,891 --> 00:46:44,171 health crisis training. Um, so they've actually trained PC remple 665 00:46:44,272 --> 00:46:47,482 as a trainer. We have several within West region. Um, 666 00:46:47,503 --> 00:46:51,562 so all our members had to complete, um, online training, 667 00:46:51,562 --> 00:46:54,922 which was four modules. Uh, prior to going and doing, 668 00:46:54,922 --> 00:46:58,122 uh, in - person training and scenario - based training. 669 00:46:58,122 --> 00:47:01,802 And that'll occur in the fall. And PC Remple is 670 00:47:01,802 --> 00:47:05,137 one of the trainers. And we have several locations set 671 00:47:05,177 --> 00:47:07,857 up through West region where our members will have to 672 00:47:07,857 --> 00:47:10,017 go and take this training as part of the requirements 673 00:47:10,358 --> 00:47:19,461 under the CSPA. Project lifesaver asked him this morning, we've 674 00:47:19,461 --> 00:47:24,421 got nine clients currently on Project Lifesaver with two applications, 675 00:47:24,421 --> 00:47:26,821 um, that they're reviewing, uh, at this point in time. 676 00:47:30,034 --> 00:47:32,733 There were some at risk youth support. There was continued 677 00:47:32,733 --> 00:47:35,693 meetings with health care providers from Dunville and McMaster regarding 678 00:47:35,714 --> 00:47:38,813 at risk youth. Uh, the meetings focused on developing an 679 00:47:38,853 --> 00:47:41,533 AxPlan to provide the youth with appropriate supports. We're working 680 00:47:41,533 --> 00:47:46,573 toward reducing repeat calls for service. Uh, and inserting that 681 00:47:46,613 --> 00:47:53,112 community member receives a necessary care within the community. And 682 00:47:53,152 --> 00:47:56,212 then in regards to the mobile crisis response team, the 683 00:47:56,253 --> 00:47:59,112 umtrice team in the two months, they covered off 52 684 00:47:59,133 --> 00:48:03,854 shifts. Um. They were. Uh, they were working. Um, there 685 00:48:03,894 --> 00:48:09,374 was 47 individuals that they serve specific to mental health. 686 00:48:09,374 --> 00:48:12,574 And the diversion from the hospital based on their intervention 687 00:48:12,595 --> 00:48:22,456 was 95 percent. 95. Yeah. Uh, PC Leclerc, who's the 688 00:48:22,717 --> 00:48:26,896 provincial liaison team member, um, through June of July, he 689 00:48:26,896 --> 00:48:29,816 continued to attend weekly meetings with FIFA Canada as well 690 00:48:29,856 --> 00:48:33,176 as MCFN event planners. Um, and then he attended the 691 00:48:33,176 --> 00:48:37,836 event on July 7th. From my understanding from Raude, it 692 00:48:37,857 --> 00:48:40,476 went very well. I'm not sure if the attendance is 693 00:48:40,476 --> 00:48:43,036 what was hoped, but it was, uh, it was a 694 00:48:43,036 --> 00:48:50,695 good day. And one of those hitch. Rod also attended 695 00:48:51,276 --> 00:48:55,415 MCFN community meeting with Crime Stoppers that we heard discussed 696 00:48:55,415 --> 00:48:58,615 earlier this morning. Um, to educate the community on how 697 00:48:58,636 --> 00:49:01,815 crime stoppers program works and it's effective as the build 698 00:49:01,815 --> 00:49:04,675 of saviour community. I understand the response was good, but 699 00:49:04,675 --> 00:49:07,495 obviously, uh, member miracle would be able to discuss more 700 00:49:07,516 --> 00:49:15,007 on that. Officer Detective Constable Decker. He is our, uh, 701 00:49:15,048 --> 00:49:17,747 Omap coordinator that we had him in recently this year 702 00:49:18,008 --> 00:49:21,667 to discuss that role. Um, so total number of fenders 703 00:49:21,688 --> 00:49:25,827 on Omap currently in Haldeman County. There's 24. There was 704 00:49:25,848 --> 00:49:29,987 one new offender added in July 1st. Um, there were 705 00:49:30,027 --> 00:49:34,707 six complaints checks conducted. Um, there was 10 breaches that 706 00:49:34,888 --> 00:49:40,046 occurred. Um, GPS offenders being monitored in Haldeman. There's nine. 707 00:49:42,011 --> 00:49:47,965 And Warren's executed in Haldoburn. Between the coordinator patrol and 708 00:49:48,005 --> 00:49:54,524 judges order was 15. We have currently outstanding 74 warrants. 709 00:49:54,524 --> 00:49:56,764 Um, which isn't bad. I think we're up over a 710 00:49:56,764 --> 00:50:02,284 hundred before. So, um, Detective Consul Decker. He's doing a 711 00:50:02,284 --> 00:50:04,124 great job at making sure we're on top of those 712 00:50:04,385 --> 00:50:10,478 and looking for those offenders. Um. Yeah. As far as 713 00:50:10,518 --> 00:50:13,678 the crime unit goes, the Detective Sergeant, I have already 714 00:50:13,699 --> 00:50:16,078 touched on the opiate overdoses and they continue to work 715 00:50:16,659 --> 00:50:21,490 diligently on that. I know members of his unit. There 716 00:50:21,490 --> 00:50:23,690 was a human trafficking case and they were able to 717 00:50:23,751 --> 00:50:29,170 support a mostly disturbed person who disclosed being a victim 718 00:50:29,191 --> 00:50:33,570 of, uh, human trafficking. So they engaged services such as 719 00:50:33,570 --> 00:50:37,170 the OPP antihuman trafficking unit and organised crime. If your 720 00:50:37,210 --> 00:50:42,450 enforcement bureau, um, and actively and Canned, the Canadian border 721 00:50:42,490 --> 00:50:45,090 services, I forgot them. And they're actively working to identify 722 00:50:45,271 --> 00:50:48,210 further victims and party's responsible this. So it's an ongoing 723 00:50:48,231 --> 00:50:52,379 investigation. The last piece I want to bring up, which 724 00:50:52,379 --> 00:50:55,419 hasn't hit the news yet, but the Detective Sergeant said 725 00:50:55,459 --> 00:50:56,579 I could bring it up. And it's probably going to 726 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,059 come out very shortly. Um, is in regards to a 727 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,819 historical missing person. Um, by the name of Robert Asher. 728 00:51:05,466 --> 00:51:07,925 So he had not been hurted or seen of since 729 00:51:08,026 --> 00:51:14,773 1981 from the Dunville area. Haldoman Norfolk Regional Police initially 730 00:51:14,794 --> 00:51:22,102 investigated it. Originally investigated the missing person investigation. Anyways, just 731 00:51:22,102 --> 00:51:25,942 recently, uh, the team that have investigators that has continued 732 00:51:25,942 --> 00:51:30,902 to investigate this, um, they were able to, uh, it 733 00:51:30,902 --> 00:51:34,742 was in October 25 further review of the file identified 734 00:51:34,843 --> 00:51:39,462 a potential connection between Robert Achert and an unidentified human 735 00:51:39,483 --> 00:51:42,582 remains recovered by NAG or regional police in Port Colburn 736 00:51:42,622 --> 00:51:48,219 in 1982. So through the investigation, uh, and forensic review, 737 00:51:48,219 --> 00:51:51,099 um, they were able to identify those human remains as 738 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,123 being Robert Asher. And the family members were made aware 739 00:51:56,024 --> 00:51:59,283 in July. And my understanding and speaking with the Detective 740 00:51:59,304 --> 00:52:07,601 Sergeant is the media release forthcoming this week. So that 741 00:52:07,702 --> 00:52:12,413 concludes my report. And I'm available for any questions. Any 742 00:52:12,514 --> 00:52:17,511 further questions or comments. Thank you very much. No, no. 743 00:52:28,510 --> 00:52:37,791 The missile soggred First Nations report. Okay. You went through 744 00:52:37,972 --> 00:52:43,664 it that fast. Through one or the other. There wasn't 745 00:52:43,704 --> 00:52:46,864 any concerning trends. We touched on the Biomin Friday. Right. 746 00:52:46,864 --> 00:52:51,813 Okay. The concerning was the opioid overdose. I told you. 747 00:52:57,086 --> 00:53:00,265 No further questions or comments. Uh, they have a mover 748 00:53:00,606 --> 00:53:03,205 and a seconder. They're the report be received as, uh, 749 00:53:03,406 --> 00:53:08,747 information. Yeah. Uh, all those in favor pose that's carried 750 00:53:08,787 --> 00:53:15,436 unanimously. Thank you. Thank you, Inspector. Review of the operational, 751 00:53:15,436 --> 00:53:18,716 uh, budget that the looking for movement or seconder that 752 00:53:18,716 --> 00:53:22,956 the board's financials and current reserve figures dated August 15, 753 00:53:22,956 --> 00:53:31,902 2026 be received as presented. Mover. Stewart. Second at 754 00:53:32,403 --> 00:53:37,422 McKeen, member McKeen. Any questions or comments on that. 755 00:53:43,471 --> 00:53:46,090 The administrative tells me that we're pretty well in line 756 00:53:46,111 --> 00:53:50,970 with everything. And, uh, and again, there's a comment that 757 00:53:51,010 --> 00:53:55,050 I made earlier that I think we, unless, unless the 758 00:53:55,071 --> 00:53:58,890 board is opposed to that approach of adding an additional 759 00:53:59,391 --> 00:54:03,982 five. Because they understand the discussion going on with that 760 00:54:03,982 --> 00:54:10,202 budget right now. Sandra. So through the chair, um, I'm 761 00:54:10,202 --> 00:54:12,922 currently working with our finance division right now on developing 762 00:54:12,922 --> 00:54:15,802 the 2027 budget typically we would bring that to the 763 00:54:15,903 --> 00:54:19,322 October meeting. But those of you looking at your agenda 764 00:54:19,743 --> 00:54:21,562 would have noticed the next item is that we don't 765 00:54:21,602 --> 00:54:23,802 want to have that meeting. Um, so I'm hoping to 766 00:54:23,842 --> 00:54:27,962 bring it to the next. I hadn't discussed previously with 767 00:54:27,962 --> 00:54:32,842 them whether the, um, ability for us to increase our 768 00:54:32,863 --> 00:54:35,402 donations budget. I will talk to them and see how 769 00:54:35,442 --> 00:54:38,202 much pushback I get. Gotta try. Right. If you don't 770 00:54:38,242 --> 00:54:42,362 ask the answers, always know. So yeah, so I'll, I'll 771 00:54:42,402 --> 00:54:44,402 touch base with them. I've already, I guess I've been 772 00:54:44,402 --> 00:54:47,962 in conversation with our financial analysts about, you know, but 773 00:54:48,143 --> 00:54:53,222 our budget comes from, um, council and MCFN, you know, 774 00:54:53,263 --> 00:54:55,242 in various portions. And we have to keep that in 775 00:54:55,242 --> 00:54:57,962 mind that, um, that we can want all the things, 776 00:54:57,962 --> 00:54:59,402 but we do have to keep in mind that the 777 00:54:59,402 --> 00:55:01,962 money has to come from somewhere. Right. So, um, hoping 778 00:55:02,063 --> 00:55:04,282 that we'll have that, um, something for you to look 779 00:55:04,322 --> 00:55:10,908 at in September. Okay. All those in favor of the 780 00:55:10,908 --> 00:55:16,375 recommendation. Posed carry. Did I do that vote. I don't 781 00:55:16,415 --> 00:55:19,175 think I did, did I? I voted twice. No, he 782 00:55:19,175 --> 00:55:21,655 didn't vote. No. Okay. I did the motion, the mover 783 00:55:21,836 --> 00:55:25,415 in a second. Yeah. We'll get her. We'll get this 784 00:55:25,596 --> 00:55:35,492 down yet. Uh, item number three, 785 00:55:35,492 --> 00:55:41,572 cancellation of the October 22nd, 26 budget, uh, meeting. And, 786 00:55:41,572 --> 00:55:46,692 uh, again, it's, um, it's being suggested because of the, 787 00:55:46,692 --> 00:55:51,012 uh, the proximity to the municipal election. And the work 788 00:55:51,052 --> 00:55:55,989 involvement. Uh, Police Services Board Administrator, of course, for other 789 00:55:56,010 --> 00:56:02,029 hat, is she's largely involved in the municipal election. So 790 00:56:02,090 --> 00:56:03,709 it's going to be, it's going to be kind of 791 00:56:03,770 --> 00:56:09,509 tough. We have members actually three members who are involved 792 00:56:10,330 --> 00:56:16,389 as participants and candidates in the elections. So it's, it's 793 00:56:16,429 --> 00:56:21,029 kind of a very difficult time for everyone. That's the 794 00:56:21,370 --> 00:56:26,549 rationale behind it all. Um, having said all that and 795 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:29,669 the information that you have in your package, uh, looking 796 00:56:29,709 --> 00:56:32,149 for a mover in a seconder that the Haldomano PP 797 00:56:32,170 --> 00:56:36,709 Detachment Board meeting scheduled for October 22nd, 2026, be cancelled 798 00:56:36,730 --> 00:56:40,949 due to its proximity to the 2026 municipal and school 799 00:56:40,989 --> 00:56:50,805 board elections. Remember McKeen, seconder, all those in favor. 800 00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:57,938 Pose that's carried unanimously. Thank you. Unfinished business, the action 801 00:56:57,959 --> 00:57:03,538 plan update, Inspector. You've got, we had the, um, we're 802 00:57:03,538 --> 00:57:08,993 going to. Go to four, which is the November meeting 803 00:57:09,494 --> 00:57:15,097 reschedule. Whereas they would be in your dentist. There's, Oh, 804 00:57:15,097 --> 00:57:18,377 hold on here. Hold on. Let me get to my, 805 00:57:18,398 --> 00:57:22,128 my pages. Yeah. It's on the main one. So four 806 00:57:22,168 --> 00:57:30,383 is the November meeting. Yeah. We're changing the date, right? 807 00:57:30,564 --> 00:57:36,506 Yeah. Okay. Or sorry. Right. I got it. Yeah. I'm 808 00:57:36,506 --> 00:57:41,601 lying. Yeah. Thank you. Next item is the Recheduling of 809 00:57:41,601 --> 00:57:46,964 the November 26th. 2026 board meeting, uh, and that is 810 00:57:47,385 --> 00:57:49,684 looking for a mover in the seconder that due to 811 00:57:50,185 --> 00:57:56,084 scheduling conflicts. The November 26, 2026 Haldeman OPP Detachment Board 812 00:57:56,185 --> 00:58:00,644 meeting be rescheduled to November the 19th, 2026 at 9 813 00:58:00,745 --> 00:58:03,684 40 a. m. in the council chambers at the Haldeman 814 00:58:03,724 --> 00:58:13,633 County Administration Building. I always kneed 815 00:58:13,633 --> 00:58:17,222 in, do you know. She won't be able to be 816 00:58:17,243 --> 00:58:22,241 here either. Oh, you don't know. Yeah. I have to. 817 00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:27,430 Go to school. That week. Okay. Anyone else know that 818 00:58:27,470 --> 00:58:33,404 they're not available of that. Yep. Okay. All right. So 819 00:58:33,745 --> 00:58:37,238 we'll move her in a seconder. I remember McKeen, membershaw. 820 00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:46,035 All those in favor. Opposed. That's carried unanimously. And it'll 821 00:58:46,075 --> 00:58:50,195 be noted, Sandra will make notation that you are not 822 00:58:50,296 --> 00:58:58,344 available for that meeting. Okay. Now, thank you Sandra. Now 823 00:58:58,625 --> 00:59:04,072 the action plan update Inspector Fox. This is the. New. 824 00:59:04,235 --> 00:59:07,281 Order. Procedure that we're going to waive the procedure by 825 00:59:07,382 --> 00:59:13,769 law. Uh, do the insurance renewal. We're doing that under 826 00:59:14,830 --> 00:59:18,729 items to consider items of consideration. So under this one. 827 00:59:18,729 --> 00:59:22,792 Okay. Okay. Hold on. You better have a good rapport 828 00:59:22,832 --> 00:59:27,832 here. I'm never going to get to it. Uh, we 829 00:59:27,933 --> 00:59:33,272 need, um, I think you received a late notification that, 830 00:59:33,272 --> 00:59:39,272 uh, the administrator had received 11th hour information regarding the, 831 00:59:39,272 --> 00:59:42,952 uh, group insurance. Um, that the, uh, that the board 832 00:59:43,693 --> 00:59:48,872 is under and so on. And, um, as a result, 833 00:59:48,872 --> 00:59:53,592 because of the time frames, um, it was decided that 834 00:59:53,632 --> 00:59:56,392 we need to deal with that at this meeting rather 835 00:59:56,432 --> 01:00:00,072 than at the September meeting. So move her in a 836 01:00:00,072 --> 01:00:03,192 seconder that the procedural bylaw be waived to consider a 837 01:00:03,192 --> 01:00:07,032 motion regarding renewal of the Haldeman OPP Detachment Board Insurance 838 01:00:07,133 --> 01:00:15,506 policy. Mover. McCaskell, secondary member McKeen, all those in favor. 839 01:00:17,156 --> 01:00:23,949 Pose that's carried unanimously. Thank you. And a mover in 840 01:00:23,949 --> 01:00:26,589 a seconder and it would be whereas the insurer has 841 01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:30,909 agreed to renew the OAPSB group insurance program for the 842 01:00:30,930 --> 01:00:36,909 upcoming policy term beginning September 27th, 2026 with minor improvements 843 01:00:36,930 --> 01:00:41,389 to coverage and limits as the previous term. And whereas 844 01:00:41,410 --> 01:00:44,509 the insurer has confirmed that there will be a decrease 845 01:00:44,530 --> 01:00:48,349 of 50 dollars in the premium for the renewal term. 846 01:00:48,349 --> 01:00:53,709 And the annual premium will change to 3, 550 dollars 847 01:00:54,370 --> 01:00:57,869 plus 8 percent tax. Therefore be it resolved that the 848 01:00:58,130 --> 01:01:01,709 board hereby authorized the Board Administrator to proceed with the 849 01:01:01,709 --> 01:01:04,509 payment of the annual insurance premium in the total amount 850 01:01:04,530 --> 01:01:10,189 of 3, 835 dollars including tax to secure coverage under 851 01:01:10,450 --> 01:01:15,149 the OAPSB Group Insurance Program for the policy term commencing 852 01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:23,994 September 27, 2026. Sandra. Mover in a second or first. 853 01:01:23,994 --> 01:01:32,600 Remember McCaskell and member Shaw. Sandra. So through the 854 01:01:32,621 --> 01:01:36,240 chair, we are required to have insurance. We're sort of 855 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,860 a captive audience because we're a very particular organisation. Um, 856 01:01:39,860 --> 01:01:44,120 the insurance, this is the same insurance that we've had 857 01:01:44,381 --> 01:01:47,560 is just a renewal. They have let us know that 858 01:01:48,141 --> 01:01:50,600 they have looked at how much we've used the insurance 859 01:01:50,941 --> 01:01:53,960 as a group, I guess. And it decided the premium 860 01:01:53,981 --> 01:01:59,720 go down a whole 50 dollars. And the improvements would 861 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,680 be that the, I'm reading this exactly. The aggregate limit 862 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,960 for the professional liability policies has been increased from 10 863 01:02:06,061 --> 01:02:14,144 million to 20 million dollars. Sure. And then the rental 864 01:02:14,325 --> 01:02:18,544 car physical damage coverage is being extended from non - 865 01:02:18,544 --> 01:02:21,664 owned auto policy for active board members renting vehicles for 866 01:02:21,685 --> 01:02:23,984 board - related duties in the amount of 50, 000 867 01:02:24,005 --> 01:02:28,144 dollars of physical damage coverage included automatically. As long as 868 01:02:28,245 --> 01:02:29,984 you're performing duties of the board and you're an active 869 01:02:29,984 --> 01:02:31,824 board member. So those are the two things that they've 870 01:02:32,165 --> 01:02:36,384 added or increased. Um, the renewal document otherwise is identical 871 01:02:36,424 --> 01:02:41,453 to what we had last year, um. Okay. That's it. 872 01:02:42,233 --> 01:02:47,370 Uh, all those in favor. Oppose that's carried unanimously. Thank 873 01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:56,208 you. Now the long awaited action plan update from Inspector 874 01:02:56,229 --> 01:03:03,274 Fox. Thank you, Chair. And through you, I'm not sure 875 01:03:03,274 --> 01:03:06,234 it'll be as exciting as you may be hoping for. 876 01:03:06,234 --> 01:03:09,834 Um, the basic update is that it has been finalised, 877 01:03:09,834 --> 01:03:12,234 which I think it's been circulated to the board and 878 01:03:12,234 --> 01:03:16,154 electronic format. I did print out, or I got our 879 01:03:16,175 --> 01:03:19,034 print shop in GHQ to print me out, uh, a 880 01:03:19,034 --> 01:03:21,914 few that I had for the Detachment to provide to 881 01:03:23,215 --> 01:03:26,474 management and supervisors at the Detachment as well as some 882 01:03:26,474 --> 01:03:29,434 of the folks looking after specific roles that would be 883 01:03:29,535 --> 01:03:33,274 engaged in the action plan. Um, I've already had sit 884 01:03:33,314 --> 01:03:36,794 down meetings with, um, some of the members that'll have 885 01:03:37,375 --> 01:03:38,794 a lot of work to do in there as we 886 01:03:38,794 --> 01:03:42,874 talked about PC Tyler Loney, uh, community watch programs and 887 01:03:42,914 --> 01:03:45,114 some of those pieces, but it includes our mental health 888 01:03:45,135 --> 01:03:54,789 liaison, our domestic abuse issues investigator. OMAP coordinator. I almost 889 01:03:54,829 --> 01:03:58,229 left him out. Um, anyways, so they've all been engaged. 890 01:03:58,229 --> 01:04:00,469 They're all aware of the action plan moving forward as 891 01:04:00,469 --> 01:04:02,789 well as the entire detachment. They all have a copy 892 01:04:02,829 --> 01:04:05,909 of it as well electronically. Um, but just to know 893 01:04:05,949 --> 01:04:08,309 some of the commitments that we need to reach and, 894 01:04:08,309 --> 01:04:09,829 uh, the actions that we're going to be looking to 895 01:04:09,869 --> 01:04:12,469 take over the next four years of this, uh, this 896 01:04:12,490 --> 01:04:16,363 Detachment Action Plan. It has not, I did a check 897 01:04:16,384 --> 01:04:20,043 and it's not been uploaded to the OPPA as of 898 01:04:20,043 --> 01:04:22,923 yet. Obviously it's available for public viewing. If they were 899 01:04:22,963 --> 01:04:25,163 to log on today and see it attached to the 900 01:04:25,184 --> 01:04:27,963 agenda, uh, but it, as soon as I find out 901 01:04:28,003 --> 01:04:32,043 that it's been uploaded to the OPPA, sorry, I keep 902 01:04:32,043 --> 01:04:36,743 saying OPPA. OPP. ca website. I'll make sure that, uh, 903 01:04:37,264 --> 01:04:43,753 it's noted here. Okay. And then the Republican have a 904 01:04:43,753 --> 01:04:45,753 good look at it as well. And I, and I'm 905 01:04:45,753 --> 01:04:51,833 just quickly on here on the commitment summary roadways, waterway 906 01:04:51,934 --> 01:04:55,113 and trails because this actually was a question that I 907 01:04:55,214 --> 01:04:59,719 asked. In the action plan for the next three years, 908 01:04:59,719 --> 01:05:02,039 because we're into the first year already. So for the 909 01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:06,759 next three years enhanced proactive enforcement and visibility across our 910 01:05:06,940 --> 01:05:10,839 detachment area by continuing to enforce the big four and 911 01:05:10,879 --> 01:05:15,239 targeting local traffic safety trends on our roadways, waterways and 912 01:05:15,279 --> 01:05:24,359 trails. So if anybody questions whether traffic enforcement is a 913 01:05:24,399 --> 01:05:27,079 priority of this detachment or not, it's right there in 914 01:05:27,260 --> 01:05:34,951 writing as you verbalized earlier in the meeting. Any questions 915 01:05:35,132 --> 01:05:38,151 or comments on the, uh, action plan. I know that 916 01:05:38,172 --> 01:05:44,951 the board had some direct involvement. Membershaw, member of la 917 01:05:44,991 --> 01:05:49,909 form, uh, myself, member McKeen, of course. And sat down 918 01:05:49,930 --> 01:05:52,709 with the Detachment Commander for a couple of meetings, actually, 919 01:05:52,709 --> 01:05:57,269 to try to get the community perspective from, from our 920 01:05:57,309 --> 01:06:01,749 end, plus all the outreach that you actually did yourself 921 01:06:01,930 --> 01:06:07,269 through the Detachment for the community and specific interest groups 922 01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:09,829 as well. So I think you're to be commanded for 923 01:06:09,869 --> 01:06:13,349 that, I think is very, very reflective of what a 924 01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:15,809 lot of us are hearing out there in the, uh, 925 01:06:15,850 --> 01:06:19,400 in the community. So keep up the good work. 926 01:06:34,436 --> 01:06:38,287 There you go. I agree. I was very impressed with 927 01:06:38,327 --> 01:06:42,347 the whole process. We were included from the beginning, the 928 01:06:42,347 --> 01:06:46,767 community was included. And even when they didn't get a 929 01:06:46,807 --> 01:06:49,007 very good response from the community, you went back to 930 01:06:49,047 --> 01:06:53,007 the community for more. So I'm very impressed with this. 931 01:06:53,007 --> 01:06:55,567 I think it's well laid out. I think one of 932 01:06:55,828 --> 01:06:59,327 the number one things in here, which we already talked 933 01:06:59,367 --> 01:07:02,687 about is people have to contact the OPP in order 934 01:07:02,708 --> 01:07:06,207 for them to know where the hotspots are. What is 935 01:07:06,207 --> 01:07:10,207 happening? And there is a good process in place to 936 01:07:10,388 --> 01:07:14,207 address those and I think we're in a really good 937 01:07:14,308 --> 01:07:21,115 spot for the next four years. Congratulations. Thank you. Okay. 938 01:07:21,136 --> 01:07:27,587 Thank you. All right. Do we have a motion for 939 01:07:27,587 --> 01:07:32,707 that? It's just an information item. Okay. Thank you, Inspector. 940 01:07:33,757 --> 01:07:43,414 Other business update on the Detachment Commander Performance Review. The 941 01:07:43,435 --> 01:07:49,734 Inspector has the document that the Board presented with regards 942 01:07:49,734 --> 01:07:53,174 to the review. And we're just waiting for response back 943 01:07:53,355 --> 01:07:57,734 from the Detachment Commander. That's where that stands at this 944 01:07:57,734 --> 01:08:01,494 point in time. And I understand in talking to Andy 945 01:08:01,534 --> 01:08:06,499 a few days ago about it, that it's coming. He 946 01:08:06,499 --> 01:08:09,139 has some other priorities and so on. But it is 947 01:08:09,179 --> 01:08:13,599 coming and it's the timeframe. I think Sandra, it's for 948 01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,459 the end of the year, isn't it? As far as 949 01:08:15,499 --> 01:08:19,939 that goes, uh, and, and, uh, Detachment Commander tells me 950 01:08:19,939 --> 01:08:23,939 that in talking with his colleagues were well ahead of 951 01:08:23,979 --> 01:08:27,619 the curve on this particular issue from what he's hearing. 952 01:08:27,619 --> 01:08:33,868 So we'll have that in timely fashion. Police governance, Ontario 953 01:08:34,209 --> 01:08:41,147 Communications. The past little while the Inspector had been pretty 954 01:08:41,168 --> 01:08:47,947 busy sending out, uh, emails and regarding regarding their annual 955 01:08:48,208 --> 01:08:55,164 report. I think it's 60 some odd pages, uh, Sandra 956 01:08:55,204 --> 01:08:57,564 and I decided that we weren't going to, uh, put 957 01:08:57,604 --> 01:09:01,084 the paper on there, but you have a link if 958 01:09:01,084 --> 01:09:05,964 you want to, uh, read the Inspectorates report. The governance 959 01:09:06,004 --> 01:09:10,124 of policing Ontario, formerly the Ontario Association of Police Services 960 01:09:10,145 --> 01:09:14,844 Boards has also been busy sending out, um, information pieces 961 01:09:15,185 --> 01:09:19,564 and trying to boil it down to how it affects, 962 01:09:19,564 --> 01:09:25,804 um, municipal police services, uh, not six nations, but indigenous 963 01:09:25,905 --> 01:09:32,084 police service boards, but also OPP police service boards. So 964 01:09:32,084 --> 01:09:37,084 the first item on Inspectorative Policing is on page 60. 965 01:09:39,965 --> 01:09:43,144 And I think this is good for the public to 966 01:09:43,245 --> 01:09:47,144 know too, because I think they lose sight of it. 967 01:09:47,144 --> 01:09:49,544 And anything that our role is a police services board 968 01:09:50,365 --> 01:09:54,584 or detachment board is different than it really is. Detachment 969 01:09:54,765 --> 01:09:59,464 boards do not direct police operations. They play an important 970 01:10:00,445 --> 01:10:05,304 governance role, however, in understanding the needs, the concerns and 971 01:10:05,304 --> 01:10:12,664 the priorities of the communities within their detachment, uh, the. 972 01:10:17,858 --> 01:10:23,585 First. Report that, uh, came through notice of issue that 973 01:10:23,846 --> 01:10:29,185 came through actually was, uh, regards to hate motivation and 974 01:10:29,446 --> 01:10:33,585 so on. And I actually had a board member who, 975 01:10:33,585 --> 01:10:35,345 uh, and we're going to be putting it on the 976 01:10:35,345 --> 01:10:41,665 September agenda. And it was regards how the detachment commander 977 01:10:41,926 --> 01:10:47,345 and our detachment deals with hate related crimes and hate 978 01:10:48,326 --> 01:10:53,265 related demons. As an example, that, that's sort of what 979 01:10:54,006 --> 01:10:57,345 initiated the board members concern. We're going to have it 980 01:10:57,345 --> 01:10:59,265 on the September meeting. You and I will be talking 981 01:10:59,366 --> 01:11:01,905 before that, uh, Inspector, because I think this is the 982 01:11:01,905 --> 01:11:05,665 first you've heard of this from me. Uh, so I'll 983 01:11:05,686 --> 01:11:12,917 give you more in depth detail. And the board may 984 01:11:12,957 --> 01:11:15,637 wish to consider, and this is from the governance of 985 01:11:15,677 --> 01:11:21,077 policing Ontario, what information is available regarding hate motivated incidents 986 01:11:21,178 --> 01:11:27,557 within our Detachment area. Community partners local groups and service 987 01:11:27,597 --> 01:11:30,997 proprietors. And whether these issues are emerging as community safety 988 01:11:31,098 --> 01:11:35,717 concerns. I guess the first thing is we can't say 989 01:11:35,738 --> 01:11:39,877 that it doesn't exist. Of course, it exists all over. 990 01:11:39,877 --> 01:11:42,757 But to what level? And that's the discussion you and 991 01:11:42,797 --> 01:11:46,917 I will have when prior two, uh, bringing it back 992 01:11:46,917 --> 01:11:49,717 to the table in September, because I don't know the 993 01:11:49,738 --> 01:11:55,477 answers. You and I'm not talking with that. Uh, the 994 01:11:55,517 --> 01:12:01,308 other thing. That was the first notice. Of the inspector 995 01:12:01,649 --> 01:12:09,312 at the second, um. Notice was integrity. And what does 996 01:12:09,352 --> 01:12:13,392 it mean for OPP Detachment Boards? And I've highlighted the 997 01:12:13,493 --> 01:12:19,392 principles of legitimacy accountability, transparency, evidence - informed decision - 998 01:12:19,392 --> 01:12:26,912 making and continuous improvement applies across Ontario's policing governance framework. 999 01:12:26,912 --> 01:12:32,432 And informed oversight of the Detachment Performance, uh, which includes 1000 01:12:32,853 --> 01:12:38,032 meaningful engagement with the communities that we serve, thoughtful, strategic 1001 01:12:38,133 --> 01:12:44,808 discussions and ongoing board development. And they're saying that we 1002 01:12:44,848 --> 01:12:48,548 should question ourself, they being the police governance, Ontario, the 1003 01:12:48,749 --> 01:12:54,468 Associationists, saying you should question yourself as a board. How 1004 01:12:54,468 --> 01:12:58,888 does our board demonstrate integrity through the governance practices and 1005 01:12:58,989 --> 01:13:04,248 beyond legislative compliance? How do our governance practices strengthen public 1006 01:13:04,429 --> 01:13:08,266 confidence. And the other points in there and the information 1007 01:13:08,447 --> 01:13:16,839 that, uh, that Sandra provided as well. And finally, the, 1008 01:13:16,839 --> 01:13:22,817 oh, almost finally. A lot of the report from the 1009 01:13:23,158 --> 01:13:26,177 Inspectora of Policing Deals with anti - corruption because of 1010 01:13:26,177 --> 01:13:30,697 the situation that, uh, was it peel, uh, Inspector. Do 1011 01:13:30,697 --> 01:13:35,939 you remember. Was the Toronto Police Service. Yeah. Yeah. From 1012 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,219 that, and, uh, and again, what does it mean to 1013 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:46,419 on OPP Detachment boards, uh, integrity, accountability, transparency are fundamental 1014 01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:51,499 principles effective governance, regardless of the policing model. It's an 1015 01:13:51,499 --> 01:13:53,939 opportunity for the board to consider whether they are providing 1016 01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:01,622 informed civilian oversight. Asking thoughtful governance questions and receiving meaningful 1017 01:14:01,643 --> 01:14:09,782 reports from the Detachment Commander, understanding community priorities and concerns. 1018 01:14:09,782 --> 01:14:14,742 And continually strengthening the effectives of the board. So I 1019 01:14:14,742 --> 01:14:18,262 think as we go through the last three, four months 1020 01:14:18,363 --> 01:14:21,622 of our mandate as a board, that if we can 1021 01:14:21,622 --> 01:14:24,142 keep some of these things in mind and kind of 1022 01:14:27,243 --> 01:14:32,182 interlock inwardly and seeing, Hey, are we doing this? Are 1023 01:14:32,182 --> 01:14:34,902 we, you know, and I know that the inspectors told 1024 01:14:34,902 --> 01:14:37,302 me, Hey, you tell me what you want in the 1025 01:14:37,302 --> 01:14:40,662 reports as far as the process and the way it's 1026 01:14:40,702 --> 01:14:43,222 being presented in the formatting and so on. If you 1027 01:14:43,222 --> 01:14:45,702 want something more, if you want something less, if you 1028 01:14:45,963 --> 01:14:48,562 want it in a different way, let them know. And 1029 01:14:48,562 --> 01:14:51,862 he certainly will take it into consideration and provide us 1030 01:14:52,043 --> 01:14:55,702 the information that way. Uh, that's just, that's just one 1031 01:14:55,742 --> 01:15:02,742 item. And again, are we strengthening our self in our 1032 01:15:02,763 --> 01:15:06,422 effectiveness and the board? Do we have, do we feel 1033 01:15:06,462 --> 01:15:12,002 that we have, um, the pulse of the community. In 1034 01:15:12,023 --> 01:15:15,202 our discussions, in our questioning and so on. And I 1035 01:15:15,202 --> 01:15:16,882 think it's been said by a couple of members here. 1036 01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:21,009 Hey, we don't know. We're not around all the time 1037 01:15:21,190 --> 01:15:24,769 either. We have our own home basis outside of those 1038 01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:28,609 home bases. What's going on? Do we have the community's 1039 01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:33,169 pulse when we formulate questions when we have discussions with 1040 01:15:33,190 --> 01:15:37,329 the Detachment commander and so on? And if we don't, 1041 01:15:37,329 --> 01:15:40,769 then it behooves us to try to find ways to 1042 01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:44,992 get that to improve that. Okay. And, and I know 1043 01:15:45,013 --> 01:15:48,832 from working with you for some of you for four 1044 01:15:48,832 --> 01:15:52,432 years. And, uh, most of you for two, two and 1045 01:15:52,432 --> 01:15:55,952 a half years that we all kind of feel that 1046 01:15:55,973 --> 01:15:59,712 same way. We want to be reflective of the needs 1047 01:15:59,893 --> 01:16:03,072 of the community that we serve in large and the 1048 01:16:03,072 --> 01:16:12,226 territory. Okay. And finally when compliance isn't enough. 1049 01:16:13,142 --> 01:16:18,561 What's it mean for the OPP boards. Uh, and it 1050 01:16:18,561 --> 01:16:24,241 says that OPP Detachment Boards governance affectedness means more than 1051 01:16:24,502 --> 01:16:30,641 reviewing reports or meeting statutory obligations. Effective board's understand the 1052 01:16:30,681 --> 01:16:36,401 communities. They serve, not going to repeat myself. Meaningful questions 1053 01:16:36,582 --> 01:16:41,921 about policing priorities in comparison to community needs monitor local 1054 01:16:41,961 --> 01:16:45,921 action plan activity and sure governance discussions remain focused on 1055 01:16:46,262 --> 01:16:50,801 strategic oversight. Governance is strengthened when boards actively use the 1056 01:16:50,841 --> 01:16:56,721 information they received to support better decisions and improve accountability. 1057 01:16:56,822 --> 01:16:58,881 So there's a lot of work for us to do 1058 01:16:59,222 --> 01:17:02,861 and to continue to do, we can improve. Uh, anybody 1059 01:17:02,882 --> 01:17:07,581 can improve. The inspector can improve. His detachment can improve. 1060 01:17:07,581 --> 01:17:10,221 And he's striving to see that it does continue to 1061 01:17:10,882 --> 01:17:15,421 improve. And we as a board certainly will strive with 1062 01:17:15,461 --> 01:17:20,541 cooperation of the members to improve in our role as 1063 01:17:21,762 --> 01:17:26,381 board members, especially under the new community safety and policing 1064 01:17:26,402 --> 01:17:28,461 act, which has only been out for a couple of 1065 01:17:28,501 --> 01:17:33,507 years now. Okay. Any further comments or questions on this. 1066 01:17:38,444 --> 01:17:48,133 Okay. Thank you. Um. The next item on page 1067 01:17:48,234 --> 01:17:56,642 76 is the remuneration, uh, survey. Gets page 76. 1068 01:18:17,639 --> 01:18:23,537 One moment, please, Inspector of Policing annual. Portrait. If you've 1069 01:18:23,638 --> 01:18:24,017 noticed. 1070 01:18:36,975 --> 01:18:46,200 Oh, there it is. The report you have on page 1071 01:18:47,261 --> 01:18:55,959 76. Basically, the Police Governance, Ontario, uh, is looking to 1072 01:18:56,780 --> 01:19:00,179 OPP Detachment Boards Municipal Boards too as well. But, uh, 1073 01:19:00,460 --> 01:19:03,719 we'll be interested in the OPP Detachment Boards of Remuneration 1074 01:19:03,719 --> 01:19:06,839 Survey just to see what's, what's going on with other 1075 01:19:07,180 --> 01:19:16,370 boards. And that particular information. At the Ontario Association of 1076 01:19:16,370 --> 01:19:21,880 Police Services Board Conference. In Blue Mountain, in the Blue 1077 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,680 Mountain area, this issue came up near the end of 1078 01:19:24,701 --> 01:19:29,248 the final day of the conference. What became pretty apparent 1079 01:19:29,589 --> 01:19:34,048 there was that, uh, police services boards were being remunerated 1080 01:19:35,109 --> 01:19:38,768 totally different. Some, as we do, had a flat fee 1081 01:19:40,389 --> 01:19:45,648 with additional per diems for board chairs and vice chairs. 1082 01:19:46,891 --> 01:19:51,030 No, just board chairs. And, uh, others were remunerated on 1083 01:19:51,131 --> 01:19:56,230 a per meeting basis. Um, and, uh, there was another, 1084 01:19:56,230 --> 01:19:59,750 there was another form of remuneration that escapes me right 1085 01:19:59,790 --> 01:20:04,390 now. However, when we got talking amongst ourselves with the 1086 01:20:04,571 --> 01:20:10,550 Ontario Association of Provincial, uh, of police services boards, what 1087 01:20:10,651 --> 01:20:16,150 also became apparent was that the activity of the boards 1088 01:20:16,331 --> 01:20:19,810 and the involvement of the boards were totally different. For 1089 01:20:19,810 --> 01:20:23,670 example, one person got up and said, well, my five 1090 01:20:23,670 --> 01:20:29,670 hundred dollars. I'm well compensated at five hundred dollars in 1091 01:20:29,670 --> 01:20:37,430 the meantime. And, uh, anyway, there was just no comparison 1092 01:20:37,691 --> 01:20:41,856 whatsoever. So here we are almost two years later. And 1093 01:20:41,856 --> 01:20:50,120 I think the now govern, policing Ontario. Formerly the OAPSB 1094 01:20:51,181 --> 01:20:56,200 has taken some of those questions and concerns into consideration 1095 01:20:56,381 --> 01:20:58,840 and they're going to try to do an apples to 1096 01:20:58,941 --> 01:21:04,740 apples comparison. That's going to be really, really difficult. Um, 1097 01:21:05,101 --> 01:21:10,280 I've, I forwarded, uh, this morning, actually just before I 1098 01:21:10,301 --> 01:21:15,480 left, I forwarded a copy of the survey, a link 1099 01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,600 to the copy of the survey to our administrator and 1100 01:21:18,701 --> 01:21:25,068 also to our vice chair, uh, membershaw. There's 35 questions 1101 01:21:25,729 --> 01:21:30,228 and some of them have multiple breakdowns in questions. So 1102 01:21:31,969 --> 01:21:37,148 with the, uh, with the Borton and Kelly, are you 1103 01:21:37,169 --> 01:21:41,628 OK sitting down with myself and Sandra in formulating the 1104 01:21:41,809 --> 01:21:46,840 response? They want one response, which I totally understand. So 1105 01:21:48,541 --> 01:21:52,520 if you're good with that, then we'll strike a committee. 1106 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,520 They want a response prior to September the 11th or 1107 01:21:56,541 --> 01:22:00,040 by September the 11th. I think they'll take it any 1108 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,000 time they can get it as far as that goes, 1109 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,680 because this has been on the back burner for a 1110 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,960 long time. Um, and, uh, will provide the information. Watch 1111 01:22:10,061 --> 01:22:12,360 your emails. We may have to reach out to you. 1112 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,920 They want to know, for example, how much time do 1113 01:22:15,021 --> 01:22:18,600 you as a member put in on the police services 1114 01:22:18,621 --> 01:22:22,600 board? That's kind of important because then that goes to, 1115 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,400 as I talked about the individual who was getting 500 1116 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:34,200 dollars, and, uh, and actually, uh, Kelly and Deborah at 1117 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,960 the last, uh, at the last conference, we were sitting 1118 01:22:38,141 --> 01:22:41,836 with a couple of members from the far north. And 1119 01:22:42,177 --> 01:22:47,656 their meetings last 15 minutes. Right. And then, yeah, and 1120 01:22:47,656 --> 01:22:50,236 it took some of them two hours to get to 1121 01:22:50,577 --> 01:22:55,596 a 15 meeting Detachment Board meeting. So is it an 1122 01:22:55,636 --> 01:22:59,821 effective meeting. Not for us to say, but we can 1123 01:22:59,821 --> 01:23:03,261 formulate our own, uh, opinion on it. So it's going 1124 01:23:03,261 --> 01:23:06,681 to be difficult to get apples to apples comparison, but 1125 01:23:06,681 --> 01:23:11,981 they're going to try. So Sandra, the chair, the vice 1126 01:23:12,002 --> 01:23:15,581 chair. And if you can come up, pull us for 1127 01:23:15,602 --> 01:23:20,621 an appropriate date and time. Okay. And, uh, we'll keep 1128 01:23:20,642 --> 01:23:27,501 you breasts. Pledge to let the boards that participate know 1129 01:23:27,522 --> 01:23:30,781 what the final result, uh, we'll be able to see 1130 01:23:30,882 --> 01:23:37,666 what our other colleagues are doing. Any further comments on 1131 01:23:37,666 --> 01:23:46,958 that. Okay. Upcoming meetings. Board member administrators 1132 01:23:47,539 --> 01:23:53,678 zone four meeting in Oakville, September the 16th. All members 1133 01:23:54,339 --> 01:23:58,398 and along with the administrator is invited to attend. This 1134 01:23:58,398 --> 01:24:01,278 is the first. These used to be held on a 1135 01:24:01,379 --> 01:24:06,225 quarterly basis. This is the first one. And the Detachment 1136 01:24:06,265 --> 01:24:11,585 Commander, you were there. Um, member McCaskell. This is the 1137 01:24:11,625 --> 01:24:16,065 first meeting since September of last year that was held 1138 01:24:16,246 --> 01:24:21,425 in Woodstock. They used to be quarterly. First one in 1139 01:24:21,465 --> 01:24:27,590 a year. Um, and as well, the Detachment Commander and 1140 01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:31,590 Board chairs meeting. And this date was set several, several 1141 01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:35,990 weeks before zone four, uh, notified us that they were 1142 01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:38,370 finally going to have a face to face meeting. Uh, 1143 01:24:38,571 --> 01:24:42,210 is going to be held on September the 25th. And 1144 01:24:42,251 --> 01:24:47,430 again, it will be in Brant County. So, uh, Inspector 1145 01:24:47,451 --> 01:24:50,610 Fox and myself will, uh, will be there. And, uh, 1146 01:24:50,811 --> 01:24:55,350 we'll be reporting back, um, the information and the dialogue. 1147 01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:59,910 And actually, as he mentioned of the, remember now when 1148 01:24:59,950 --> 01:25:04,690 you gave your answer that, yeah, that inspector was, uh, 1149 01:25:04,811 --> 01:25:08,310 was going to work on some sort of a closing 1150 01:25:08,411 --> 01:25:12,710 the loop on complaints. But there were legal things they 1151 01:25:12,710 --> 01:25:16,314 had to check into as well too, I believe. So 1152 01:25:16,575 --> 01:25:18,714 that probably one of the items that'll be on that 1153 01:25:18,815 --> 01:25:25,905 agenda. OPP News Portal. And this came out from the 1154 01:25:26,006 --> 01:25:29,745 fact that, um, there's articles that are appearing in the 1155 01:25:29,766 --> 01:25:35,418 press. They're appearing in the media. Um, and. The board 1156 01:25:35,519 --> 01:25:40,496 isn't receiving any of that particular, uh, information. Um, Andy 1157 01:25:40,496 --> 01:25:42,736 and I have had a couple of discussions about this. 1158 01:25:42,736 --> 01:25:45,376 And the last one was that, uh, he thought that 1159 01:25:45,637 --> 01:25:49,216 there had been a portal that had been released to 1160 01:25:49,216 --> 01:25:56,156 the board through the administrator's office. And it was, but 1161 01:25:56,156 --> 01:26:00,736 it was through a previous administrator and the message didn't 1162 01:26:00,837 --> 01:26:03,856 carry that they were to flow through to us. Sandra. 1163 01:26:07,368 --> 01:26:11,187 So I sort of joined as a Board Administrator midstream. 1164 01:26:11,187 --> 01:26:16,787 I'm going through, um, old documents and, um, and emails. 1165 01:26:16,787 --> 01:26:20,387 So the last communication I have about the portal would 1166 01:26:20,387 --> 01:26:24,147 have been from 2019. So it's really stale. Um, and 1167 01:26:24,488 --> 01:26:28,067 that information, I assume because there wasn't anything more recent 1168 01:26:28,328 --> 01:26:32,867 was that board members were given login options for the 1169 01:26:32,888 --> 01:26:34,627 OPP portal. So they could choose to get all of 1170 01:26:34,627 --> 01:26:38,627 these notifications. So this is just for your awareness would 1171 01:26:38,648 --> 01:26:42,628 be just notices about significant. Crime events or a lot 1172 01:26:42,628 --> 01:26:44,708 of the things that they publish in the, you know, 1173 01:26:44,708 --> 01:26:47,608 they have that OPP Detachment piece in the in the 1174 01:26:47,608 --> 01:26:51,368 local Haldeman press or local papers. Um, I get them 1175 01:26:51,389 --> 01:26:55,048 through the administrator email address. And I was under the 1176 01:26:55,048 --> 01:26:56,808 impression that you folks were all getting them as well 1177 01:26:57,149 --> 01:27:00,488 and didn't in the interest of not spamming anyone was 1178 01:27:00,509 --> 01:27:04,408 not forwarding them as such. So I'm not clear like 1179 01:27:04,448 --> 01:27:06,568 you folks were signed up or were not given the 1180 01:27:06,749 --> 01:27:08,968 option. You were not given the information to sign up. 1181 01:27:08,968 --> 01:27:11,828 So no. So I did reach out to the, um, 1182 01:27:12,669 --> 01:27:16,008 to the local media person from that portal where the, 1183 01:27:16,008 --> 01:27:18,328 uh, they originate from just to confirm that I can 1184 01:27:18,368 --> 01:27:21,528 share that information with you to create your own login 1185 01:27:21,528 --> 01:27:23,048 so that you could choose to get them directly to 1186 01:27:23,088 --> 01:27:27,128 your inbox. Um, just to sort of remove me as 1187 01:27:27,128 --> 01:27:30,648 a middle person, um, they are on holiday, haven't returned 1188 01:27:30,909 --> 01:27:34,008 yet. Um, so I'll keep you all posted on that. 1189 01:27:34,008 --> 01:27:36,308 Um, but I'm expecting to hear back probably in the 1190 01:27:36,308 --> 01:27:38,628 next week or so. And I'll just forward you. And 1191 01:27:38,628 --> 01:27:40,408 that way you folks could choose to sign up to 1192 01:27:40,408 --> 01:27:42,408 get these emails directly to your inbox so that you're 1193 01:27:42,448 --> 01:27:45,368 aware of these events as they happen. Looks like Inspector 1194 01:27:45,408 --> 01:27:49,322 Fox might have some comments. Yes, thank you. Thank you, 1195 01:27:49,322 --> 01:27:54,048 Sandra. Thanks, Andrew. And through you, Chair, I was just 1196 01:27:54,048 --> 01:27:55,488 quickly trying to look on my phone to see if 1197 01:27:55,528 --> 01:28:01,418 I could find the email. I know, um, Derek Rogers 1198 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,818 out of West Region headquarters. I know he looks after 1199 01:28:03,858 --> 01:28:09,018 this, um, media portal. This news portal. And my understanding 1200 01:28:09,039 --> 01:28:13,258 is that, uh, and I could be wrong on this, 1201 01:28:13,258 --> 01:28:16,058 Sandra, but I don't know if everybody can sign up 1202 01:28:16,098 --> 01:28:18,938 to it. I know the PSB Administrator email has been 1203 01:28:18,978 --> 01:28:21,898 signed up for, for many years. Um, but I think 1204 01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:24,138 there might be a limit to the number of people 1205 01:28:24,399 --> 01:28:25,978 they sign up to it. You might get that information 1206 01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:29,930 back. So through the chair. Yeah. So that's what I'm 1207 01:28:30,031 --> 01:28:32,330 anticipating. I just wanted to confirm before again, I just 1208 01:28:32,370 --> 01:28:35,850 give everybody access and they perhaps shouldn't. If it looks 1209 01:28:35,890 --> 01:28:39,050 like there is a limited number of access or limited 1210 01:28:39,050 --> 01:28:42,150 amount of access, then I would be asking people, you 1211 01:28:42,150 --> 01:28:44,810 know, individual board members whether they are interested in receiving 1212 01:28:44,850 --> 01:28:47,050 them, in which case I just, excuse me, created distribution 1213 01:28:47,311 --> 01:28:50,570 list and pass them along as necessary. But the less 1214 01:28:50,671 --> 01:28:52,810 manual we can make it, the less likely we miss 1215 01:28:52,850 --> 01:28:57,889 something. And that's, that's what I'm hoping for. So stay 1216 01:28:57,929 --> 01:29:05,739 tuned. Next item corresponds from the solicitor general re OPP 1217 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:10,459 municipal policing costs. And that is on page 78. 1218 01:29:16,273 --> 01:29:21,532 So in short, they're basically saying that, uh, no, no 1219 01:29:21,633 --> 01:29:24,972 municipality or that receives a bill is going to receive 1220 01:29:24,993 --> 01:29:29,372 one that is more than 11 percent. And that 11 1221 01:29:29,553 --> 01:29:35,772 percent does that take the subsidy that they provided into 1222 01:29:35,812 --> 01:29:41,501 consideration. We don't know. Because if you recall the last 1223 01:29:41,682 --> 01:29:46,781 bill, I think our neighbours to the west here received 1224 01:29:46,962 --> 01:29:50,861 a bill that was like 50 percent or 75 percent 1225 01:29:51,282 --> 01:29:56,701 higher than previous and Haldeman County had received a bill 1226 01:29:56,741 --> 01:30:01,021 that was substantially higher, but not as bad as Norfolks. 1227 01:30:01,021 --> 01:30:04,061 And, uh, basically throughout the province, they all received a 1228 01:30:04,322 --> 01:30:08,661 real increase. The province said, okay, this isn't sustainable. We 1229 01:30:08,661 --> 01:30:12,461 can't do this. And, uh, but I'm sorry, I never 1230 01:30:12,501 --> 01:30:14,781 thought of this until after you and I met when 1231 01:30:14,781 --> 01:30:18,701 we had talked about the agenda item. But so is 1232 01:30:18,741 --> 01:30:22,941 it, I'm hoping that they're going to say it's, no, 1233 01:30:22,962 --> 01:30:27,750 it's the substantized rate. Is in effect. And this is 1234 01:30:27,851 --> 01:30:32,070 no more than 11 percent once that rate is subsidized 1235 01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:39,019 by the province. But we'll see. So. I can't imagine 1236 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:43,582 that they would. Increase it like, you know, a hundred 1237 01:30:43,582 --> 01:30:51,893 percent 75 percent. Plus another under 11 percent. However. Thank 1238 01:30:51,933 --> 01:30:56,372 you. Any questions on, on this. Okay. And the county 1239 01:30:56,412 --> 01:30:59,092 is paying the bill there. Leslie, how does, how does 1240 01:30:59,113 --> 01:31:02,692 that work for the Mississaugas of the credit First Nation. 1241 01:31:03,355 --> 01:31:11,289 Who pays your bill? Is it the band council. Yes. 1242 01:31:11,310 --> 01:31:15,000 The bank council pays it. I do have questions, but 1243 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:16,140 I'm going to see if I can talk to you 1244 01:31:16,241 --> 01:31:19,260 first to put it on the agenda for next meeting. 1245 01:31:25,745 --> 01:31:32,124 And that is all we have listed on the printed 1246 01:31:32,385 --> 01:31:39,367 pages. You should have the attendance. Yep. It's here. It's 1247 01:31:39,388 --> 01:31:47,230 here. Under. 1248 01:31:49,339 --> 01:31:53,158 Other business. And this was a late addition to the 1249 01:31:53,259 --> 01:31:57,638 agendas that, uh, that you received probably four or five 1250 01:31:57,638 --> 01:32:03,238 days ago now. And regards to the collision reporting centre 1251 01:32:03,339 --> 01:32:09,398 service delivery model update. The Inspector, um, made the chair, 1252 01:32:09,398 --> 01:32:15,036 uh. Aware of changes that, uh, he would like to 1253 01:32:15,617 --> 01:32:22,076 consider, um, with regards to the collision reporting, uh, centre. 1254 01:32:22,076 --> 01:32:25,214 And I'm going to, uh. Turn it over to the 1255 01:32:25,395 --> 01:32:32,337 Detachment Commander. Yeah. Thank you, Chair. Through you, um, basically 1256 01:32:32,758 --> 01:32:35,697 the collision reporting setter. I think everybody's fairly aware of 1257 01:32:35,737 --> 01:32:39,577 it. It was new to who Haldoman OPP prior to 1258 01:32:39,718 --> 01:32:42,177 my arrival in 23. I'm not sure if it went 1259 01:32:42,217 --> 01:32:48,850 in in 21 or 22. Um. But, uh, the collision 1260 01:32:48,890 --> 01:32:51,570 reporting, centre, what it does is supposed to look after, 1261 01:32:51,570 --> 01:32:57,010 uh, minor collisions. Um, property damage, um, you know, vehicle 1262 01:32:57,050 --> 01:33:01,570 collisions embolding wildlife, et cetera. Um, we had an analysis 1263 01:33:01,671 --> 01:33:04,530 done. First of all, the Detachment, there's a few things 1264 01:33:04,871 --> 01:33:08,770 too that we're looking at. And quite honestly, the piece 1265 01:33:08,810 --> 01:33:12,530 we're looking at is, uh, discontinuing the collision reporting centre. 1266 01:33:13,111 --> 01:33:15,810 Um, the reason being is, uh, the front of our 1267 01:33:15,911 --> 01:33:19,490 detachment is not really set up for tow trucks to 1268 01:33:19,511 --> 01:33:22,210 be navigating the area to bring in vehicles that we're 1269 01:33:22,210 --> 01:33:28,210 damaged if they weren't drivable. Um, secondly, uh, when we 1270 01:33:28,231 --> 01:33:32,370 did a review of the analysis, obviously the main point 1271 01:33:32,370 --> 01:33:35,330 of a collision reporting centre is to redirect some of 1272 01:33:35,330 --> 01:33:40,770 our frontline services, um, the frontline members to other opportunities 1273 01:33:40,951 --> 01:33:42,850 they could be doing in the county. So when we 1274 01:33:42,850 --> 01:33:45,290 have the analysts, take a look at it. I think 1275 01:33:45,431 --> 01:33:49,490 there was just approximately over 900, uh, motor vehicle collisions 1276 01:33:49,671 --> 01:33:57,650 and Haldeman County in 2025 and approximately 420 were completed 1277 01:33:57,690 --> 01:34:01,330 by our collision reporting centre. Um, now the collision reporting 1278 01:34:01,431 --> 01:34:04,930 centre right now is currently staff by our Detachment clerks 1279 01:34:04,970 --> 01:34:10,370 at the front. Um, and it's the reporting mechanism isn't 1280 01:34:10,410 --> 01:34:14,290 as investigative intensive as I would like it to be. 1281 01:34:14,290 --> 01:34:16,810 Uh, when reviewing some of those calls for service, I 1282 01:34:16,871 --> 01:34:20,610 believe there's a possibility of for charges in many of 1283 01:34:20,610 --> 01:34:24,850 those collisions that occurred. And as we discuss about traffic 1284 01:34:24,850 --> 01:34:29,650 collision, uh, or sorry, traffic collision, traffic concerns within the 1285 01:34:29,671 --> 01:34:34,910 county, that's obviously, uh, very, uh, important topic. So, um, 1286 01:34:35,271 --> 01:34:37,010 I wanted to make you aware that that was something 1287 01:34:37,111 --> 01:34:39,550 we were kind of looking at and just some, uh, 1288 01:34:39,591 --> 01:34:44,130 feedback from the, uh, from the board in relationship questions 1289 01:34:44,311 --> 01:34:44,690 or comments. 1290 01:34:55,819 --> 01:35:01,255 So I love that centre is there. Because it's easy 1291 01:35:01,255 --> 01:35:05,363 to get to. However, I do agree with you that 1292 01:35:06,184 --> 01:35:09,043 they wouldn't be able to go out and inspect all 1293 01:35:09,083 --> 01:35:11,603 the vehicles and everything like that. I've had to use 1294 01:35:11,603 --> 01:35:15,443 it a couple of times, but on things where somebody 1295 01:35:16,584 --> 01:35:18,483 did something to my car. I don't know where I 1296 01:35:18,483 --> 01:35:22,419 went. I didn't notice it till I got home. And 1297 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,039 went to all these different ones. They're like, nope, you 1298 01:35:25,039 --> 01:35:28,499 notice it on your property, go to Kyga. I'm like, 1299 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,599 okay. So then I just recently got hit by a 1300 01:35:31,639 --> 01:35:35,041 turkey. I didn't hit it. It hit me. And I 1301 01:35:35,081 --> 01:35:37,761 had to go and report it because there is a 1302 01:35:37,801 --> 01:35:39,921 small damage in my vehicle just in case I need 1303 01:35:39,921 --> 01:35:43,201 it for insurance and such. So for that, them kind 1304 01:35:43,201 --> 01:35:45,121 of incident, it would be okay. But if it was 1305 01:35:45,121 --> 01:35:49,041 like a actual collision where two cars are hitting and 1306 01:35:49,081 --> 01:35:51,201 you have to do the tow trucks and everything. No, 1307 01:35:51,201 --> 01:35:57,024 I don't think it's set up for that. Andy. Yeah. 1308 01:35:57,024 --> 01:35:58,604 Thanks. And if I can just replay to that, uh, 1309 01:35:59,205 --> 01:36:01,904 through you chair, uh, the difficult part in looking at 1310 01:36:01,944 --> 01:36:04,544 this is we can't, there's not really a hybrid solution 1311 01:36:04,885 --> 01:36:10,544 to running a collision reporting centre. Um, because there's a 1312 01:36:10,565 --> 01:36:13,184 certain scope of the type of collisions that are supposed 1313 01:36:13,184 --> 01:36:17,264 to be reported to the collision reporting centre. And I 1314 01:36:17,264 --> 01:36:19,824 wouldn't be able to just pair that down myself to 1315 01:36:19,864 --> 01:36:26,304 say certain, even a less, um, grouping of collisions to 1316 01:36:26,344 --> 01:36:28,224 reduce that to say we could only do this piece 1317 01:36:28,264 --> 01:36:31,744 there. Um, the dispatchers are taught and it's, uh, you 1318 01:36:31,744 --> 01:36:34,704 know, a standard operating policy procedure they have at the 1319 01:36:34,744 --> 01:36:37,264 comm centre when they receive the call to whether they 1320 01:36:37,285 --> 01:36:40,624 send it to a CRC or they dispatch a frontline 1321 01:36:40,725 --> 01:36:50,703 member to attend the collision. Deborah. Through 1322 01:36:50,703 --> 01:36:54,943 the chair. Um, I haven't used the Haldimen collision centre. 1323 01:36:54,943 --> 01:36:57,663 Thankfully. I haven't needed to. But I have used the 1324 01:36:57,684 --> 01:37:02,683 one in Windsor with a very minor incident of, uh, 1325 01:37:03,524 --> 01:37:06,463 our corner of our bumper being just clipped while the 1326 01:37:06,503 --> 01:37:09,723 car was parked and someone was sitting in it. And 1327 01:37:09,764 --> 01:37:15,423 they actually sent police officers to investigate it, which I 1328 01:37:15,684 --> 01:37:19,263 found very interesting. And then they said, Oh, it's a 1329 01:37:19,303 --> 01:37:22,303 minor incident and no one was hurt. Go to the 1330 01:37:22,303 --> 01:37:26,303 collision centre. Well, turns out they ripped all the sensors 1331 01:37:26,324 --> 01:37:29,263 off the front bumper of the car and 13, 000 1332 01:37:29,303 --> 01:37:34,783 dollars later. So trying to decide what the cost of 1333 01:37:34,823 --> 01:37:38,523 a repair is and trying to decide unless it's, you 1334 01:37:38,523 --> 01:37:40,303 know, it may look minor. But if you have two 1335 01:37:40,343 --> 01:37:42,303 people, you're going to have two different stories. I don't 1336 01:37:42,303 --> 01:37:45,103 know how the collision centre can, you know, make a 1337 01:37:45,143 --> 01:37:48,763 report that's going to actually give the insurance company, you 1338 01:37:48,763 --> 01:37:51,663 know, justification for who's going to pay for it or 1339 01:37:51,703 --> 01:37:55,423 who's responsible. So I think, you know, getting a hybrid 1340 01:37:55,463 --> 01:37:58,703 solution, better solution is a good idea because I don't 1341 01:37:58,724 --> 01:38:01,583 see the collision centres as being the answer to this 1342 01:38:01,604 --> 01:38:07,037 issue. Andy. Thanks, Chair. Through you, yeah, I believe our 1343 01:38:07,077 --> 01:38:09,677 collision reporting centre, we obviously, it's been done for many 1344 01:38:09,698 --> 01:38:12,637 years in the highway safety division, which is throughout the 1345 01:38:12,677 --> 01:38:16,877 GTA, um, where that's primarily our response is just to, 1346 01:38:16,877 --> 01:38:19,997 uh, the highways through those locations. And I think the 1347 01:38:20,098 --> 01:38:22,877 CRC has done very well there. Um, I think the 1348 01:38:23,218 --> 01:38:27,837 rollout to some of the, um, municipal locations within the 1349 01:38:27,858 --> 01:38:31,717 OPP has, you know, the challenges and it's kind of 1350 01:38:31,717 --> 01:38:34,157 different every way. I think the OPP may even be 1351 01:38:34,157 --> 01:38:37,437 doing a review on the collision reporting centre system and 1352 01:38:37,437 --> 01:38:40,397 the way it's, it's rolled out. Um, I know if 1353 01:38:40,437 --> 01:38:45,517 you go to several municipal services, um, municipal policing services, 1354 01:38:45,517 --> 01:38:47,197 a lot of the times they have a third party 1355 01:38:47,237 --> 01:38:51,117 company that they hire in order to conduct all collisions 1356 01:38:51,698 --> 01:38:58,225 at the collision reporting centre. Okay. Member McCaskill. 1357 01:39:03,423 --> 01:39:06,602 Through the chair. I got dinged in a parking lot. 1358 01:39:06,602 --> 01:39:09,802 A local major major store. And I wasn't even there. 1359 01:39:09,802 --> 01:39:11,962 And I did some damage to the car. And you 1360 01:39:12,002 --> 01:39:13,682 look at a car now it's 10 grand. I don't 1361 01:39:13,682 --> 01:39:17,621 care what you drive. Unless it's a wheelbarrow. I phoned 1362 01:39:17,621 --> 01:39:21,864 the OPP locally and I got a report number. And 1363 01:39:21,965 --> 01:39:24,264 gave that to my insurance company the way we went. 1364 01:39:24,285 --> 01:39:30,024 What I find disturbing is that insurance companies are now 1365 01:39:30,125 --> 01:39:36,278 using, uh, publicly funded police force. To enforce things that 1366 01:39:36,318 --> 01:39:39,478 they should be doing. If iPhone, my insurance guy and 1367 01:39:39,478 --> 01:39:42,278 say, I bet on an accident, I understand that if 1368 01:39:42,318 --> 01:39:46,278 I should phone the police, if it's of some nature. 1369 01:39:46,278 --> 01:39:52,118 But if not, my insurance people should send someone to 1370 01:39:52,158 --> 01:39:54,914 see what's going on. It's sort of like phoning a 1371 01:39:54,954 --> 01:39:59,874 major TV company and saying it's not working. You now 1372 01:39:59,914 --> 01:40:01,794 spend the next three hours after being on the phone 1373 01:40:01,834 --> 01:40:05,874 for three hours going through the technical terms with them 1374 01:40:05,895 --> 01:40:08,354 to fix your own TV. In other words, they don't 1375 01:40:08,375 --> 01:40:11,954 want to pay for anything. So in a way, the 1376 01:40:12,135 --> 01:40:17,314 police force is being utilised to do a service for 1377 01:40:17,354 --> 01:40:20,653 insurance companies. And I think that should be addressed. Uh, 1378 01:40:20,754 --> 01:40:22,893 I don't know how to do that. I was a 1379 01:40:22,893 --> 01:40:29,213 one person, but through counsel or through police hierarchy across 1380 01:40:29,234 --> 01:40:32,653 to insurance hierarchy, perhaps that should be bridged because that 1381 01:40:32,994 --> 01:40:36,413 puts a lot of time and effort on police services. 1382 01:40:36,413 --> 01:40:41,379 They could be used to answering calls. Supplied by community 1383 01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:49,141 watch people. Thank you. Thank you, Stuart. Yeah. Thank you. 1384 01:40:49,562 --> 01:40:52,541 Um, and through you, Chair. In response to that, a 1385 01:40:52,541 --> 01:40:55,701 little bit of, like we have a duty under the 1386 01:40:55,802 --> 01:41:01,461 highway traffic act to report collisions. And the damage threshold 1387 01:41:01,882 --> 01:41:05,501 years ago was, I think 2000 dollars. And it's, I 1388 01:41:05,501 --> 01:41:08,101 can't recall what year, a few years ago at least, 1389 01:41:08,101 --> 01:41:10,981 uh, it's been increased to 5, 000 dollars so that 1390 01:41:10,981 --> 01:41:14,581 if somebody's involved in a minor collision, um, where the 1391 01:41:14,762 --> 01:41:21,861 injury and damage appears to be under 5, 000 dollars, 1392 01:41:21,861 --> 01:41:24,341 if the members are good and exchange their information, they 1393 01:41:24,341 --> 01:41:27,381 can just go through their insurance companies at that point. 1394 01:41:27,381 --> 01:41:30,821 But it's that part of determining the 5, 000 dollar 1395 01:41:30,842 --> 01:41:35,621 limit and whether that happens after the fact that the 1396 01:41:35,621 --> 01:41:39,088 bit of a time delay there. Thank you. Member Shaw. 1397 01:41:41,984 --> 01:41:45,563 Just so I understand a bit through you, Chair. Understand 1398 01:41:45,563 --> 01:41:47,963 a little bit better. So are you hoping that the 1399 01:41:48,144 --> 01:41:52,043 collision reporting centre is going to stop? And what would 1400 01:41:52,083 --> 01:41:58,752 it look like if that did. Yeah. We're, we're looking 1401 01:41:58,933 --> 01:42:04,352 at discontinuing it based on, uh, the analyst and the 1402 01:42:04,352 --> 01:42:07,792 information that we've taken a look at. I feel that, 1403 01:42:07,792 --> 01:42:11,201 um. The investigative excellence for some of the collisions that 1404 01:42:11,222 --> 01:42:14,241 we're seeing come through the collision reporting centre, it would 1405 01:42:14,241 --> 01:42:17,521 be, um, done a lot better. Obviously the biggest concern 1406 01:42:17,542 --> 01:42:20,961 from command is that if we discontinue this, we are 1407 01:42:21,001 --> 01:42:23,561 putting, as you indicated, how would it be handled? It 1408 01:42:23,561 --> 01:42:26,081 would be handled by frontline officers. So we would be 1409 01:42:26,121 --> 01:42:31,581 putting, um, that workload back on the front line. And 1410 01:42:31,622 --> 01:42:34,721 when we did analysis of that, it worked out to 1411 01:42:34,982 --> 01:42:41,239 approximately, um, 10 extra calls per year per officer. So 1412 01:42:41,260 --> 01:42:44,856 a little bit less than one a month. Which we 1413 01:42:44,957 --> 01:42:47,816 believe is doable. So like I said, this is all, 1414 01:42:47,816 --> 01:42:50,776 the final decision made on this. This is something we're 1415 01:42:50,797 --> 01:42:54,456 just exploring. Uh, we have an upcoming management meeting with 1416 01:42:54,957 --> 01:43:00,276 our noncommittees are our surgeons, and, uh, the discussion, um, 1417 01:43:00,797 --> 01:43:07,509 that meeting as well in regards to this. Okay. Anything 1418 01:43:07,610 --> 01:43:17,001 further. Okay. All right. Oh, member miracle. To be honest. 1419 01:43:17,862 --> 01:43:20,481 I think a lot of the collision reporting is just 1420 01:43:21,062 --> 01:43:25,091 to get that number. To call your insurance, like, especially 1421 01:43:25,192 --> 01:43:27,411 those minor ones like me hitting a turkey. Well, if 1422 01:43:27,411 --> 01:43:29,171 I want to go through insurance, I need that police 1423 01:43:29,211 --> 01:43:35,721 report number. Nothing's under 5, 000 dollars anymore because even 1424 01:43:35,761 --> 01:43:38,201 though I have a little crack, this big in my 1425 01:43:38,241 --> 01:43:40,281 frame, they're going to have to take the whole part. 1426 01:43:40,281 --> 01:43:43,081 I haven't went through because insurance said, Oh, it will 1427 01:43:43,081 --> 01:43:45,361 probably jack your price up because you hit turkey. I 1428 01:43:45,361 --> 01:43:48,041 said, no, jump down and hit me. But that's a 1429 01:43:48,062 --> 01:43:50,257 whole, the whole other thing is. If there could be 1430 01:43:50,518 --> 01:43:53,297 a way maybe not through the police, but through the 1431 01:43:53,337 --> 01:43:58,817 insurance, Lake Stewart said, police are not doing insurance's job. 1432 01:43:58,817 --> 01:44:00,977 Why can't we call insurance and say, Hey, this just 1433 01:44:01,017 --> 01:44:05,141 happened. Why do I need a police number? Take picture, 1434 01:44:05,141 --> 01:44:07,701 send it in, whatever. Instead of having to involve the 1435 01:44:07,722 --> 01:44:13,605 police for those minor details. Okay. Good discussion on it. 1436 01:44:14,506 --> 01:44:20,328 Good thoughts, too. Okay. So you'll keep a surprise as 1437 01:44:20,349 --> 01:44:24,728 to how this ends up floating out again, because as 1438 01:44:24,768 --> 01:44:27,848 the, uh, Inspector has said, he may not even be 1439 01:44:27,848 --> 01:44:31,928 able to, uh, to do this depending on what the 1440 01:44:32,269 --> 01:44:36,488 higher ups have to, have to say. But we thought 1441 01:44:36,589 --> 01:44:39,608 you should be aware that this at least is in 1442 01:44:39,648 --> 01:44:47,455 the, uh, in the works. Community petition regarding safety, um, 1443 01:44:47,976 --> 01:44:51,635 this is in the, in the Caledonia area. You have 1444 01:44:52,056 --> 01:44:54,915 a copy of the, of the letter that was a 1445 01:44:54,915 --> 01:44:59,859 preamble to the petition that was, uh, circulated here. I 1446 01:44:59,899 --> 01:45:03,939 don't know if you have any comments, uh, Inspector. You 1447 01:45:03,939 --> 01:45:08,275 just. Thank you, Chair. And through you, I do. Um, 1448 01:45:08,556 --> 01:45:12,935 obviously I appreciate the residents bringing forward, um, the concerns 1449 01:45:13,116 --> 01:45:17,015 in the Avalon subdivision in Caledonia. Uh, the petition was 1450 01:45:17,055 --> 01:45:20,455 constructed inappropriately focused on prevention and partnership when I read 1451 01:45:20,455 --> 01:45:25,575 over it. Although I've not had our analysts to a 1452 01:45:25,575 --> 01:45:29,175 comprehensive review of incidents in there. And as you saw, 1453 01:45:29,175 --> 01:45:32,695 I noted in the June and July months. We did 1454 01:45:32,735 --> 01:45:41,655 see a decrease in theft under five, uh, calls for 1455 01:45:41,655 --> 01:45:46,855 service. I know the citizen did not lie in exactly 1456 01:45:47,116 --> 01:45:49,575 the concerns, but we have already noticed prior to receiving 1457 01:45:49,615 --> 01:45:53,815 this that there was an increase in vehicle, um, thefts, 1458 01:45:53,815 --> 01:45:55,975 not too many of those, but more so there's from 1459 01:45:55,975 --> 01:46:00,295 vehicles. Um, so just throw for some context for the 1460 01:46:00,335 --> 01:46:02,215 board for this. I know our analysts, they've been working 1461 01:46:02,215 --> 01:46:06,375 with the Hamilton Police Services, um, and four youth were 1462 01:46:06,415 --> 01:46:10,535 arrested in a stolen truck that was stolen from Avalon. 1463 01:46:10,535 --> 01:46:12,695 So we are trying to use the information now that 1464 01:46:12,735 --> 01:46:15,175 we're getting from Halleton Police to try to tie that 1465 01:46:15,215 --> 01:46:18,375 to any of the incidents in our location and hopefully, 1466 01:46:18,375 --> 01:46:21,255 um, some charges and clearing off incense might be pending 1467 01:46:21,516 --> 01:46:27,585 in relation to that. And before receiving the petition actually, 1468 01:46:27,585 --> 01:46:30,545 um, and becoming aware through, we have Tuesday morning meetings 1469 01:46:30,566 --> 01:46:34,045 to discuss things in the, uh, in our Detachment. And 1470 01:46:34,045 --> 01:46:35,825 that was kind of one of the topics that came 1471 01:46:35,825 --> 01:46:39,005 up. And I said, okay, let's put something together. Um, 1472 01:46:39,046 --> 01:46:43,265 I've made a request of our auxiliary liaison officers to 1473 01:46:43,286 --> 01:46:48,305 engage our auxiliary unit. And it's called the door - 1474 01:46:48,305 --> 01:46:51,745 to - door program. So that's where, um, our auxiliary 1475 01:46:51,785 --> 01:46:54,225 members, they will take out, uh, we've got some printed 1476 01:46:54,265 --> 01:46:57,265 placards. Um, they talk about, uh, lock at her lose 1477 01:46:57,265 --> 01:47:04,125 it, operations safeguard, community watch, and, uh, cam safe. Um, 1478 01:47:04,246 --> 01:47:06,865 so anyways, they'll go out and they'll kind of flood 1479 01:47:06,905 --> 01:47:09,665 that area of a community that we had some hotspots 1480 01:47:09,705 --> 01:47:12,125 in, making sure people are aware. I know a lot 1481 01:47:12,125 --> 01:47:14,465 of times now on social media, people have, uh, social 1482 01:47:14,486 --> 01:47:16,545 media groups, they're part of and they see some of 1483 01:47:16,545 --> 01:47:19,905 that information. But this is to make sure they report 1484 01:47:19,945 --> 01:47:22,625 it to us so that we have an awareness for, 1485 01:47:22,665 --> 01:47:25,565 for our analytics. So we know where to hit, um, 1486 01:47:26,486 --> 01:47:31,185 to head to focus our enforcement efforts on. But they're, 1487 01:47:31,185 --> 01:47:32,865 the plan is coming. I don't think they're getting to 1488 01:47:32,905 --> 01:47:36,145 it this week. It might be next week. So Caledonia 1489 01:47:36,406 --> 01:47:39,885 residents within Avalon subdivision are going to see that. Um, 1490 01:47:39,885 --> 01:47:41,505 but we also noticed there was a bit of a 1491 01:47:41,606 --> 01:47:45,065 spike in Hagersville as well. Um, and we're going to 1492 01:47:45,606 --> 01:47:48,785 be door to door program will be coordinated in that 1493 01:47:48,825 --> 01:47:51,345 area a little bit later time as well. Hopefully you'll 1494 01:47:51,385 --> 01:47:56,785 see a reduction in, uh, in the, in these incidents, 1495 01:47:56,785 --> 01:47:59,505 as I said, Hamilton police has made a rest of 1496 01:48:00,006 --> 01:48:02,145 four. Four young persons in that one. I'm not sure 1497 01:48:02,185 --> 01:48:04,305 if they had their own media release out on that. 1498 01:48:08,363 --> 01:48:15,336 Yeah. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Um, member McKeen. I 1499 01:48:15,517 --> 01:48:19,976 noticed in the email that it says avalon slash Caledonia. 1500 01:48:19,976 --> 01:48:22,296 I just wondered because you said there's been a spike 1501 01:48:22,717 --> 01:48:28,296 in Hagersville and then other incidents in Hamilton. Is there, 1502 01:48:28,296 --> 01:48:31,176 uh, is there a hot spot area? Like is Caledonia 1503 01:48:31,757 --> 01:48:36,456 divided between standard Caledonia and Avalon? Like, is there a 1504 01:48:36,496 --> 01:48:42,056 dividing line that we know of that needs more attention? 1505 01:48:42,056 --> 01:48:44,696 Or is it all just considered as one, one city 1506 01:48:45,197 --> 01:48:50,953 basically. Thank you. Through your chair. Um, no, definitely it's 1507 01:48:50,953 --> 01:48:54,073 been more when the analyst was indicating to me there's 1508 01:48:54,073 --> 01:48:57,513 definitely a focus. Um, and I won't even say Avalon 1509 01:48:57,934 --> 01:49:01,253 as a whole, but parts of Avalon that were, you 1510 01:49:01,253 --> 01:49:04,873 know, targeted by the offenders. So we'll be hitting that 1511 01:49:04,894 --> 01:49:09,873 area. Um, you know, our unit right now, I think 1512 01:49:09,873 --> 01:49:11,753 has 10 members. They all can't get out of the 1513 01:49:11,753 --> 01:49:13,993 same point in time. So in order to do focus 1514 01:49:14,014 --> 01:49:16,153 like this, we really got to rely on the analytics 1515 01:49:16,174 --> 01:49:18,633 as to the area that it was occurring in, in 1516 01:49:18,633 --> 01:49:23,033 order to maximize that efficiency. Um, but definitely it's one 1517 01:49:23,033 --> 01:49:25,273 of those ones we did notice there was a spike 1518 01:49:25,313 --> 01:49:27,593 as well. In Hagersville and that's why I say we're 1519 01:49:27,593 --> 01:49:31,833 going to hit the area where that was concentrated in 1520 01:49:31,854 --> 01:49:38,719 Hegersville at a little bit later date. Anything further. All 1521 01:49:38,719 --> 01:49:47,026 right. Thank you very. Much. Bylaws. No bylaws listed. 1522 01:49:48,566 --> 01:49:53,072 Announcements. No. 1523 01:49:59,237 --> 01:50:06,760 Chair. Tomorrow night. Friday night at Nani Coke. There's a 1524 01:50:07,021 --> 01:50:09,560 from six until ten, 6 p. m. until 10 p. 1525 01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:13,400 m. There's a bit of a gathering of live music. 1526 01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:17,329 10 bucks, some food will be served. And I'm not 1527 01:50:17,329 --> 01:50:19,889 sure about alcohol. I was on a later rival to 1528 01:50:19,889 --> 01:50:23,409 this. So I thought I'd mention it here. Hopefully it'll 1529 01:50:23,449 --> 01:50:26,129 reach some years. And the main thrust of all this 1530 01:50:26,230 --> 01:50:33,649 is that the town hall is in, uh, has been 1531 01:50:33,670 --> 01:50:36,289 let go, shall we say for a number of years. 1532 01:50:36,289 --> 01:50:38,609 And it's my understanding. I haven't auditor yet to see 1533 01:50:38,649 --> 01:50:42,369 what the needs are. That it, uh, it would appreciate 1534 01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:46,749 some needed funding. So this is the beginning and the 1535 01:50:46,749 --> 01:50:49,649 wheat out of Nanico to commence that process by a 1536 01:50:49,649 --> 01:50:53,569 bunch of volunteers. And, uh, so if you can tomorrow 1537 01:50:53,569 --> 01:50:57,249 night at Nani Coke, uh, stop by listen to some 1538 01:50:57,289 --> 01:51:01,569 music and bring a chair, by the way, there's no 1539 01:51:01,670 --> 01:51:03,409 seeding original. I just want to sit down on the, 1540 01:51:03,449 --> 01:51:06,449 on the grass. So please, uh, please attend and support 1541 01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:10,361 the town of Ninecook. Much appreciate. Thank you. Thank you, 1542 01:51:10,401 --> 01:51:16,996 Stuart. Anyone else. Session. 1543 01:51:23,215 --> 01:51:26,424 We're at the adjournment. Mover in a seconder. Uh, that 1544 01:51:26,445 --> 01:51:32,823 this meeting now adjourned at 1131 a. m. Move member 1545 01:51:32,863 --> 01:51:39,560 McKeen, second member Shaw. All those in favor. Opposed that 1546 01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:43,640 is carried. Thank you very much for your involvement and 1547 01:51:43,741 --> 01:51:47,000 your participation, uh, this morning. Have a good rest of 1548 01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,425 the summer. Meeting adjourned.