[0:09] You are, you're good. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and
[0:14] they took my gavel away. So. There we go. Now
[0:20] we'll make it official and welcome to the last meeting
[0:25] of the summer of the Haldeman OPP Detachment Board. I
[0:30] hope everybody else had an enjoyable summer so far. It's
[0:33] coming to an end in much, much too soon. And
[0:39] also, I just want to remind members, myself included, that
[0:46] while we have a gallery of one by the look
[0:49] of it, thank you, thanks for attending. There are people
[0:53] who are watching this live, and there are people who
[0:57] will stream it at a later date, including the press.
[1:02] So I know it hasn't been an issue, but let's
[1:05] remember that we are open and transparent. Land acknowledgement.
[1:19] I. Forgot how to do my - Someone's still on
[1:23] summer vacation mode here. As we gather, we humbly acknowledge
[1:29] that Haldeman County sits on the ancestral land of many
[1:32] generations of indigenous nations who have been here since time
[1:36] immemorial. Today, this land continues to be home to many
[1:40] indigenous peoples, including the Six Nations of the Grand River
[1:44] and the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nations, as well
[1:47] as non - Indigenous settlers from a variety of backgrounds.
[1:51] As a community, we have a shared responsibility for stewardship
[1:55] of the Land on which we live and work. We
[1:58] are grateful for the opportunity to work together and to
[2:01] share the land we all call home. Acknowledging reminds us
[2:06] that our living conditions are directly related to the abundant
[2:10] resources of the indigenous peoples. We commit to continue learning,
[2:15] reflecting on our past, and working in allyship with indigenous
[2:19] communities towards respective community goals and objectives in peace, respect,
[2:26] and friendship. The roll call has been taken, and we
[2:31] find a member of la form is not able to
[2:37] attend on other activities, actually, and she notified well ahead
[2:42] of time that she was not going to be able
[2:44] to attend. Have we heard from member Bentley? She advised,
[2:48] she's going to try to make it, but it's unlikely.
[2:51] She'll... Okay, she may be tied up on some of
[2:53] her other hat business. She may have joined us, she
[2:58] may not. And aside from that, and the Detachment Commander
[3:01] is all by himself this morning as well. So his
[3:05] staff sergeants are obviously on other duties. Any of them
[3:10] on summer breaks now, are they some of them are?
[3:14] Okay, thank you. Disclosure of pecuniary interests. None noted. Approval
[3:23] of the previous meeting minutes. Motion that the minutes of
[3:28] the June 25, 2026 Haldeman OPP Detachment Board Meeting be
[3:32] adopted as circulated. Mover Shaw, second member McCaskill. All those
[3:40] in favor. Oppose that is Carrie unanimously. Next recommendation, looking
[3:48] for a mover in a seconder that the minutes of
[3:50] the closed session of the June 25th, 2026 Haldeman OPP
[3:54] Detachment Board meeting, be as adopted as circulated and remain
[4:01] confidential. Mover McKeen, Seconder. A membershaw. Questions
[4:11] or comments on that. None, all those in favor. Opposed
[4:17] that has carried unanimously. And next we move on to
[4:23] Delegations and Presentations, and we're pleased to have with us
[4:27] this morning, one of our partners in Crime Prevention and
[4:31] Safety in the Community. The Crime Stoppers have Haldeman and
[4:36] Norfolk, and we have listed on the agenda is the
[4:43] chair Lillian Wilson, but Amy Bernardo, the program coordinator will
[4:48] introduce who she has as a replacement instead. Welcome, ladies.
[4:57] Good morning, everybody. Thank you once again for having us
[4:59] this year. I'm going to introduce this is Tory Bertrand,
[5:03] and she's a board member with our program. Hello, thank
[5:07] you all for having me. This is my first time,
[5:10] so this is exciting stuff. Yes, I want to thank
[5:14] you guys for having us here today. As a non
[5:16] - profit charitable organisation, we continue to bring together the
[5:20] community, the media, and law enforcement in the fight against
[5:23] crime. And we're pleased to provide an update on our
[5:25] annual achievements here today. So this is exciting. Um, this
[5:30] year, Mercs are 38th anniversary, a milestone that would not
[5:34] have been possible without the continued support and partnership of
[5:37] our local law enforcement agencies. We are proud of the
[5:40] collaborative work we share in educating the public and raising
[5:43] awareness, surrounding illegal activity while promoting the values of safety,
[5:48] empowerment, and inclusion throughout the communities. 2025 was again a
[5:52] really good year for crime stoppers. We saw a lot
[5:55] of movement and more reports than in 2024, so that
[6:00] was good. Um, we had over, or we had 499
[6:07] new reports, so that's an increase from 42 reports from
[6:11] 2024. Um, these reports led to 31 arrests and 143
[6:17] charges being laid. In addition, crime stoppers tips assisted in
[6:21] recovering 11, 800 dollars in property and seizing over 14600,
[6:28] 000 dollars worth of substances, which is over twice the
[6:32] amount seized in 2024 with our tips contributing to that.
[6:37] Um, and as an organisation, funded entirely through donations and
[6:41] grants, we continue to face ongoing challenges of sustaining our
[6:44] operations and reward program. In 2025 alone, crime stoppers authorized,
[6:50] 3, 475 in rewards for tips received. These rewards are
[6:55] essential to the crime stoppers program and encourage those who
[6:58] have information to come forward. Um, so that's kind of
[7:01] the basis of our program. So obviously very important. Our
[7:05] fundraising efforts rely solely on the generosity of individuals, businesses,
[7:10] community organisations, um, our funding from 2025 came through our
[7:15] annual golf tournament, community barbecues, raffle ticket sales are shredding
[7:20] events, and other charitable contributions such as yourselves. Um, our
[7:27] volunteer Board of Directors has grown in 2026. Uh, this
[7:31] year, actually I have taken over the rule of secretary.
[7:34] So after three years on the board, um, there was
[7:36] some movement for me there. Um, we have other new
[7:40] board members joining as well. So that's been awesome. Throughout
[7:43] the year, our board remains actively involved in local fairs,
[7:47] parades, and community events across Haldeman and Norfolk, promoting a
[7:50] program we deeply believe in. These events provide valuable opportunities
[7:54] to increase public awareness and encourage individuals to anonymously come
[7:59] forward with information that can help keep our communities safe.
[8:03] Crime stoppers is sincerely grateful for the support and donations
[8:06] previously provided by your organisation. And we respectfully ask that
[8:10] you consider a contribution of 5, 000 dollars to assist
[8:14] in continuing our work, sustaining our programs and strengthening our
[8:17] ongoing efforts in the fight against crime with our communities.
[8:21] Um, and thank you again for your consideration. Thank you
[8:25] very much. Any questions, comments to the presentation. Just want
[8:33] to check on a rumour out there. I understand that
[8:36] your recent golf tournament that you told me was extremely
[8:39] successful that Inspector Fox led the PAC. I mean, that's
[8:44] what he's been telling me. Um, we'll let him continue
[8:48] to chat if that's what's happening. Um, but yes, our
[8:51] golf tournament was very successful and we just had it
[8:54] held at last Thursday at the greens of Renton. Um,
[8:56] we had a great turnout. It was very successful, yes.
[9:00] That's great. That's great. No further questions or comments. I
[9:05] do have a recommendation that I'm looking for a mover
[9:10] in a seconder that the Delegation from Crime Stoppers of
[9:13] Haldeman and Norfolk agree the 2025 annual update and funding
[9:17] request be received. And that they hauled up an OPP
[9:22] Detachment Board support the Crime Stoppers of Haldeman and Norfolk
[9:25] 2026 initiative with a and its blank. So for our
[9:32] consideration, donation from the donations gift budget. Over in a
[9:38] secondary, and we'll fill in the blank. Um, member McCaskill,
[9:42] member McKeen. Stuart, would you like to fill in the
[9:45] blank or would you like further discussion. Okay. There we
[9:53] are. Um. Very quickly, uh, before we get to that
[9:58] blank, before I draw a blank, I command you, Anto
[10:03] Crime Stoppers. It's your own song Heroes, and we don't
[10:07] know names and faces, but we see results. You know,
[10:13] and I totally believe that without you're doing what you're
[10:19] doing beyond the direct results, the indirect repercussions of what
[10:24] you do that are a noticeable, are paramount. And that
[10:29] is people know you're there. People know that crime stoppers
[10:32] is in the area. That prevents stuff before it happens.
[10:36] If we force somebody reports it. So thank you very
[10:38] much. And for your presentation. Back to the blank. I
[10:41] think the request was for 5, 000. Am I right?
[10:46] I support that and more, whatever the, uh, the council
[10:52] would suggest. I'm going to ask the administrator budget wise
[10:58] where are we? So there are always budget considerations. Um,
[11:06] any amount that you're donating is coming out of the
[11:08] Board Reserve. Typically, um, for Crime Stoppers, we, they come
[11:13] and they request 5, 000 dollars. And in previous years,
[11:21] about 1, 200, I think that was up a little
[11:23] bit from the previous year. I'm not sure the rationale
[11:25] about the increase. I can imagine inflation was on everybody's
[11:29] mind. Um, so that's a, like it's really up to
[11:33] you folks to decide whether you feel that that amount
[11:36] is appropriate. Um, our budget for donations as far as
[11:40] that goes. Um, 5, 000 is significantly higher than typically
[11:45] we would have budgeted for this and for this donation.
[11:48] And we also did, um, uh, purchase those, uh, handheld
[11:55] radars for the OPP Detachment as well this year, which
[11:58] is, you know, again, it comes out of the reserve.
[12:01] If that's the direction you folks want to go in,
[12:03] it's your decision. I can't tell you what to do
[12:05] or not do. I can just tell you what we've
[12:07] done in the past and what the budget is built
[12:09] to absorb.
[12:27] There we are. Um, understand that. And thank you, Sandra.
[12:31] And by the way, good to see you. We didn't
[12:34] have a chance to stop by before. The whatever then,
[12:37] I guess the blank would be because of the importance
[12:41] of crime stoppers throughout our community. Whatever the board could
[12:46] have comfortably afford or even risking a bit of comfort,
[12:50] uh, that we proceed with whatever would the funding would
[12:54] allow for crime stoppers. And thank you. Okay. So the
[12:59] recommendation is for 5, 000 dollars at this particular point
[13:02] in time. Okay. Leave us all your hand. I'm sorry.
[13:10] Um, I, I am an accountant at heart. So I
[13:15] sadly would say that I think we should stick closer
[13:18] to the amount that we agreed on. I mean, if
[13:21] in future, that we find that we have a surplus,
[13:24] then we can always give more. We can't give if
[13:26] we don't have. If we're taking away from something else,
[13:29] then I would say closer to last year's amount, possibly
[13:33] 1500. It may not be, you know, maybe not be
[13:38] the news that you want to hear. But I'm very
[13:41] physically minded. So it's a board decision. That's my opinion.
[13:52] Okay. Uh, Ben, uh, just need a shot caller.
[14:06] So we have 5, 000 dollars, one recommendation. I let
[14:10] him recommend for, and I'm going to call them in
[14:16] the order that they were presented. All those who can
[14:25] support 1, 500 dollars. So it's 1, 500 dollars.
[14:35] You guys turn your microphone. Yes.
[15:05] It was. Never put on the floor. You didn't have
[15:06] a. No, it was left blank. Right. Right. Okay. So
[15:12] the motion that we have is that the Haldoman OPP
[15:16] part two clauses is that the Haldeman OPP Detachment Boards
[15:19] support the crime stoppers of Haldeman Norfolk 2026 initiative with
[15:23] a 1500 dollar donation from the donations, gifts, budget slash
[15:29] budget. Moved by member McCaskill, seconded by member McKeen. Right.
[15:37] Okay. And then we're going to vote on that. Let.
[15:41] It be amended. To 1500 dollars. Well, we didn't have
[15:45] any motion on the floor then other than the update.
[15:49] On the floor. That was blank. The blank. And you're
[15:53] changing the blank. You're amending the blank. And so you
[15:55] have to vote to amend the blank and then you
[15:57] have to go back to vote on the main motion.
[16:00] Just, just, just no wonder Donald Trump is as crazy
[16:02] as he is. Okay. So we need, you heard all
[16:10] of that. All those in favor of amending the emotion
[16:12] that never made it to the floor. Okay. The pose
[16:16] that's cared. That's carried. And now the amended motion is
[16:20] that Haldeman OPP Detachment Boards support the crime stoppers of
[16:23] Haldeman and Norfolk 2026 initiative with a 1500 dollar donation
[16:28] from the donation slash gifts budget. All those in favor
[16:34] that's moved in seconded by Stuart and by Deborah. All
[16:38] those in favor. Opposed that's carried unanimously. Thank you very
[16:43] much, uh, ladies. I think you know what, what went
[16:46] on here. You're probably not too surprised, I would think
[16:49] Amy either. There is one thing here. Okay. There is
[16:54] one thing here though. And I wish the notation could
[16:57] be made here that we look at increasing our donations
[17:03] and gifts budget. Because this happens time and time again.
[17:08] And Amy, I don't have to tell you. I've been
[17:10] here for four years for requests every single time. We
[17:14] haven't got money. We haven't got money. And it's true.
[17:17] We don't. I support what was just done. I think
[17:22] it would not be in our best interest as a
[17:26] board to start taking money out of reserves that we
[17:31] know are not going to be replenished by new policy
[17:34] off the OPP at the higher level. At the government
[17:37] level actually. And that is that you no longer receive
[17:41] proceeds from auctions and surplus funding and things like that.
[17:46] So that's going to be zero in short order. And,
[17:50] uh, as you heard, uh, we purchased a couple of
[17:55] handheld radar guns for our detachment. Uh, good use of
[18:01] the money. And I'm sure that the detachment commander will
[18:03] have more good use of additional funds for next year
[18:09] as well. He should. Okay. Uh, Leslie, thank you for
[18:13] your patience. Hi Amy. Good to put a face to
[18:17] your name. I'm Councillor Leslie from Ms. Soggle Credit First
[18:21] Nations. And I know you did a presentation that I
[18:24] missed. Sorry about that. But I was wondering in your
[18:27] opinion, if you thought it went well. And if you
[18:29] ever considered reaching out to donations to Chief and Council.
[18:37] Yes. Um, I did a presentation a few weeks ago.
[18:40] I thought it went very well. Um, we did have
[18:42] quite a bit of engagement from the audience, which was
[18:45] fantastic and wonderful. That's what we want, right? We want
[18:48] questions. Um, and I went down there was for an
[18:51] education piece, right to explain to the people what our
[18:54] program is, who we are, what we're all about. Um,
[18:57] maybe to give peace of mind to some about anonymity,
[19:01] um, right. Anonymity is the heart of our program. That's
[19:04] not an option. Right. Anonymity is a must. Um, so
[19:07] I'm really trying to convey that message that when you
[19:11] call Crime Stoppers or submit via the web, it is
[19:14] a hundred percent anonymous. So yes, the, the, um, presentation
[19:19] went well, um, in terms of reaching out, or sorry,
[19:23] are you saying for funding? Is that what. You're. Going
[19:29] to do. Yeah. We got it. For our donation like
[19:35] you are approaching this board. I'm not going to lie
[19:39] to you. I have not thought of that. Um, and
[19:42] that is certainly going to be a discussion. Um, we
[19:44] actually have a board meeting this evening, um, but that's
[19:47] going to be a discussion that the, the board, um,
[19:50] I will definitely bring it forward. And the board can
[19:52] have that discussion. Um, so I'm not going to lie.
[19:55] I have been the coordinator for about 10 years now.
[19:59] Um, and I'm working closely. I've worked closely with Rod
[20:03] LeClaire concept of Rode LeClar for a while. Um, this
[20:05] is something that I'm, it's near and dear to my
[20:07] heart. I'm trying to get out there. We are trying
[20:09] to be more present in that the Mississauga, the credit.
[20:14] It's not an area that we've, or I have been,
[20:17] you know, two previous years. So I'm really hoping to,
[20:22] to make it this way hence, you know, we did
[20:24] the presentations, et cetera. Um, I actually attended, um, at
[20:27] the Detachment just a couple of weeks ago. Um, uh,
[20:32] an information session, I guess you would say, um, an
[20:35] indigenous training kind of, um, and that was, it was
[20:38] amazing. It was wonderful. Um, so I am hoping we
[20:41] are hoping the board to get out that way more
[20:43] often. So that will be a discussion. I mean, Tori,
[20:45] as a board member is right here. This is something
[20:47] that will come forward tonight at our board meeting, um,
[20:49] for sure that we would definitely. Thank you. Well, I
[20:52] know that Chief is wanting to promote the services more.
[20:59] And I know there's that fear and that trust. That's
[21:01] why we asked you to come do the presentation. And,
[21:05] um, yeah, because we want to try to help out
[21:07] as much as we can as well. Who's the chair.
[21:17] I keep forgetting. Just to back up what you said
[21:24] and also to agree with Deborah. I understand fiscal constraints,
[21:29] but crime stoppers is crime stoppers. It's a prevention thing.
[21:36] If we allow only funding, that's retroactive, i. e. what's
[21:41] happened past years. To allow us that luxury of that
[21:45] amount of funding fall short of the mark, in my
[21:49] opinion. If we want to prevent crime, and this is
[21:53] a Haldeman County thing, not just any localized, if we
[21:57] want to prevent crime and deter the cost of taxpayers
[22:02] of further crime, it's well invested money. And wherever that
[22:06] might come from, from, from council or from any board,
[22:11] has huge merit, in my opinion. So that's where I
[22:15] stand with any of this. And thank you very much.
[22:19] Okay. Thank you very much. And again, thank you very
[22:22] much for your presentation and have a good rest of
[22:25] the summer. Moving ahead to the items for consideration, uh,
[22:35] next is the report from the Detachment Commander. Before we
[22:42] get into it, I'll look for a mover and a
[22:44] seconder that the report from the Detachment Manner for the
[22:47] months of June and July of 2026 be received as
[22:51] presented. Mover. Shaw, Secondar McKeen, thank you. And, uh, Inspector,
[23:00] Europe. Thank you, Chair. And through you. Good morning, everybody.
[23:08] Um, this report will be for two months, June and
[23:12] July. Uh, 2026. And I'm going to turn your attention
[23:16] to the first page of my report, which would be
[23:18] page 10. On your, uh, documentation there, I believe. Um,
[23:25] unfortunately, we had three fatal collisions. Um, in those two
[23:30] months, um, which is up significantly from last year. We
[23:33] only had one in that period of time. Um, currently
[23:38] we're sitting year to date. At four fatal collisions. Um.
[23:46] So there's been an increase, uh, from last year, unfortunately.
[23:50] Not as bad as 2024, but there has been an
[23:53] increase in fatal collisions from last year. Um, of significant
[23:57] note on page 11 there. Two of those three in
[24:00] the past two months were alcohol related. And I'll point
[24:04] out some stats in the following pages that way to
[24:08] allude to that a little bit. Um, so if I
[24:11] bring your attention to page 12 and your report, you
[24:16] see at the top, this talks about criminal code provincial
[24:18] statute charges laid. So criminal code non traffic. You'll see
[24:23] that's down about 50 percent. And I personally don't see
[24:29] that as a concern. I see that as, as a
[24:31] good thing because you're non - traffic, that's going to
[24:34] be your assaults, um, other criminal code offences. Um, causing
[24:39] victimization to the community. And the fact that those are
[24:42] down, I think is a good piece. And I'll speak
[24:45] to that when we get to the violent crime, uh,
[24:47] section as well. Um, criminal code traffic. You'll see through
[24:52] June and July, that's up a hundred percent. It's up
[24:55] 20 from last year's June and July months. Um. Your
[25:03] criminal code traffic, most of those are going to be,
[25:06] there could be disqualified drive, but most of those are
[25:08] probably going to be impaired, uh, drug and alcohol related,
[25:11] uh, charges. Um, so I think that speaks to, um,
[25:16] as we saw the two fatalities that were alcohol related,
[25:20] um, and further down the page, uh, before I discuss
[25:23] speeding, if you look at impaireds, you'll see that this
[25:26] year, uh, for June and July, we had 21 as
[25:30] opposed to 12 last reporting year. Um, so we have
[25:33] been, there has been an increase in impaired charges, whether
[25:37] that's through proactive or through the community calling in traffic
[25:40] complaints. Um, regarding possible impaired drivers. Um, we have seen
[25:45] an increase there. Just above that, you'll see the speeding
[25:51] charges for June and July compared to the last two
[25:54] years were up significantly for those two years. And I
[25:57] think as the Chair alluded to, uh, the two pieces
[26:01] of equipment, the light or the radars handheld radars that
[26:04] the board purchased was, uh, a significant investment for us
[26:09] to assist in, uh, in that category. The next page
[26:13] I wanted to bring you to would be 14 in
[26:16] your report. And that's the violent crime. Um, so this
[26:19] is where you see assaults, um, compared to the last
[26:23] two years specifically last year are down. Significantly. That's the
[26:28] assault slash firearms related offences. Um, and they're down significantly.
[26:32] And I think that's why you would see the trend
[26:35] that I talked about on the previous page, uh, where
[26:39] criminal code non traffic charges were down. I think that's
[26:42] the correlation there because we've had less reported by the
[26:45] crime in those two months. Um, and year to date
[26:50] for Assault's firearms with a defence, as you can see,
[26:53] we're down compared to the last two years. Um, by
[26:57] 39. 1 percent. On page 15 of the report. I
[27:03] want to bring to your attention because this will also
[27:05] come up in, uh, further agenda item later on. You
[27:08] will see for June and July theft under 5, 000.
[27:12] It's down from 62 last year to 43. So we've
[27:15] seen a decrease over those two months this year. Um,
[27:19] and year to date, uh, compared to last year, we're
[27:23] down 66 for theft over 5, 000. And I bring
[27:29] that one to your attention because a lot of times
[27:31] that relates to thus from vehicles, um, when we're getting
[27:35] hit for those pieces. Um, overall, if you look at
[27:39] property crime, you're going to see there's decreases in every
[27:42] category, which is significant. Um, property crime is obviously one
[27:47] of the hardest crimes for solvability rate. Clearence rates that
[27:53] is in the report as well. Um, that's why programs
[27:56] like Crime Stoppers or so very important because they do
[27:59] provide us some information that we sometimes lack in order
[28:03] to investigate those crimes. The next page I want to
[28:12] draw your attention to is page 20 in your report.
[28:17] The first part there is public complaints. Um. You'll see
[28:22] that there was three in those two months and they
[28:25] were in relation to, uh, conduct. Officer conduct. Further down
[28:32] the page. The Inspector, just a comment or a question
[28:36] on that. So there are three and they're currently being
[28:42] investigated. Is that? Yes, that's correct, Chair. And. It was
[28:47] the board made aware of the resolution of those whatever
[28:54] way it goes. At this point in time, there is
[28:57] nothing in our Detachment Board Report that provides that. Uh,
[29:01] I think we've discussed the previous meetings, uh, Inspector Heimers
[29:05] sits on a working group. He's the Detachment Commander in
[29:08] Oxford County. And he sits on our working group and
[29:11] he was going to bring this back so that hopefully
[29:14] if the monthly there would be kind of a year
[29:17] - end wrap up to kind of indicate whether any
[29:20] of these incidents were founded or unfounded. So he's bringing
[29:24] that forward to the working group and I'm not aware
[29:26] of any changes currently. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Continuing
[29:34] on daily activity reporting hours. You see there was an
[29:37] increase in patrol cruiser patrol hours, which is up to
[29:42] 1, 811. Um, patrol marine hours. You'll see during those
[29:47] two months we had more. So we did receive, we
[29:49] didn't receive any marine training this year. Um, last year
[29:52] we did have, I think, at least one, possibly two
[29:56] officers where marine trained, um, so we did increase some
[30:00] of the hours there from marine training. Um, ATV trading.
[30:04] You'll see there's been a decrease over the past two
[30:06] years. Uh, I've discussed this before in, uh, in previous
[30:10] meetings, uh, ATV training is, is very tough to get.
[30:15] Um, we're, we're constantly asking for seats on the course.
[30:19] Unfortunately, um, a lot of our senior members are the
[30:23] ones that are trained and they're either retiring or moving
[30:26] into positions. I was eight where I am ATV trained.
[30:30] Um, and just not in a position to get out
[30:32] there for some of those patrols. So unfortunately those are
[30:36] down compared to the last two years. Um, foot patrol
[30:40] hours, uh, you see that's, that's up and. It's not
[30:47] up a hundred. Sorry. It's at 159. 75 hours. So
[30:50] that is an increase over the past two years for
[30:52] foot patrol, which has been a priority of the board.
[30:54] So we keep working on that as well. Okay. Just
[30:57] on the patrols, uh, Inspector. And I can't totally recall
[31:05] now. Because in the last three, four days, as you
[31:09] know, I've received some emails that have been forward by
[31:13] some members of the board. And, uh, and, and from
[31:20] the county. And some of the concerns are that the
[31:26] community is saying, we're not seeing the officers and all
[31:29] that. And, and really from what you've just reported now.
[31:37] And in the last few months going back through my
[31:40] memory, going back. The cruiser patrol hours are up and
[31:45] they're up rather significantly. I mean, we've got an example
[31:50] here from, from, uh, 1400 to 1800. That's 400. That's
[31:55] pretty significant increase. Uh, and the foot patrols are up.
[32:01] Whether they're where they should be or not, but a
[32:03] lot of the concerns are, well, we're not seeing the
[32:05] police officers. I don't know how the Board addresses something
[32:10] like that. Um, or you address something like that when
[32:15] you receive the complaints, because they get transferred over to
[32:18] you, whether you have them or not. And I know
[32:26] figures can lie, but the figures that we have are
[32:30] showing that the opposite should be. The norm here. And
[32:35] it has been the norm for the past several months
[32:37] and possibly for the whole year. Um, any comments on
[32:42] that. I mean, it's through your chair. I think one
[32:45] comment I could definitely make. So vehicle patrol. That's going
[32:48] to be when an officer is on patrol, you know,
[32:51] in their zone going through neighbourhoods, um, let's be honest,
[32:54] we work 24 seven. So a lot of that could
[32:56] be at night when members are sleeping and they're not
[32:58] seeing that. Also, as you know, the increased traffic enforcement
[33:04] focus here in Haldeman County, uh, by the Detachment, which
[33:07] we've seen the, um, highway traffic stats and traffic enforcement
[33:11] stats have increased. When officers are doing any kind of
[33:14] proactive patrol for, uh, speed enforcement or anything like that.
[33:18] They're putting down vehicle patrol. So that kind of increase
[33:22] that you see in there is why you would see
[33:24] an increase in those patrol hours as well. Right. Um,
[33:28] unfortunately sometimes people say they don't see the police. And
[33:31] that's, uh, that's a perspective at that point in time.
[33:35] Right. I know I've travelled from my home up to
[33:37] Thunder Bay to see my son. And in that point
[33:40] in time, I never saw, you know, maybe a cruiser
[33:42] on the highway at that point in time. But they
[33:44] could have been off investigating somewhere else. And I mean,
[33:48] throughout your entire day, there's a perspective on that piece.
[33:52] I like the stats that we're showing. We are increasing
[33:55] the enforcement. We're, we're out there definitely as much as
[33:58] we can be. Um, we still have administrative components to
[34:01] look after, um, yeah, I think the officers have definitely
[34:05] been out in visible in the community. Have you made
[34:10] this a priority with the Detachment. Visibility in the community.
[34:17] Yes, absolutely. And I think that the increase in vehicle
[34:20] patrol and foot patrol speaks to that. Um. Yeah, so
[34:25] a hundred percent, that's a priority for the community. Okay.
[34:27] And, and you and I meet on a regular basis
[34:30] and so on. So that answer doesn't surprise me. But
[34:33] I think we should get that on the record and
[34:36] out into the public. That it is a priority with
[34:40] this detachment through you. That is correct. Leslie. Oh, sorry
[34:49] who was in. The history of microphone. Yep. She was
[34:56] asked. So in my opinion. Not seeing the OPP tells
[35:01] me that there's lack of crime. That's just my opinion.
[35:05] However, what he was stating is true. Like you might
[35:09] not see the OPP over here in Hagerzville, but they
[35:11] could be out in Dunville. That it's a big area
[35:16] that they have to cover. So not everyone is going
[35:18] to see them all the time. And that depends on
[35:20] the community's vision and what they mean by seeing them.
[35:25] Do they want them at all their events? That kind
[35:28] of scene where they want to see in roaming around,
[35:30] writing around. So it's, it takes into a whole bunch
[35:33] of factors. So as long as we know he's on
[35:36] the job, we got. It. Thanks, Leslie. Good point. Uh,
[35:42] Deborah. Um, I'm going to paraphrase the mayor. Hopefully I'm
[35:48] not misquoting her, but I believe she has had, um,
[35:52] voice conversations and possibly emails from members of the community
[35:56] that have said they've seen a noted increase in foot
[35:59] patrols in areas. And they're very happy for it. So
[36:03] it's not that you're not being noticed everywhere. Just that
[36:06] you may not be hearing about it. So I hope
[36:08] that I got that right, Shelly. So she gets back.
[36:11] She'll let me know. Thank you. And actually, I think
[36:14] I reported the last time when staff Sergeant Brown and
[36:19] I presented to the annual report to the council, every
[36:24] member of council who spoke. And that was everyone but
[36:27] one said that they had seen an increased visible presence.
[36:34] Because that was really good news. I think I reported
[36:36] that back at our last meeting. So, um, but however,
[36:41] the people are saying, I'm not seeing, I'm not sin.
[36:45] That can't be discounted either. But it's lessly points out.
[36:51] You can't be everywhere all the time. Go ahead, Inspector.
[36:59] Stewart, I'm sorry. Through the chair. Agree with everybody. One
[37:06] thing personally, I've seen a big increase in our little
[37:11] rural area, around the only perked over. And I go
[37:14] up and down the cost of a year, I get
[37:15] all the way up to Dunville and to Port Rowan.
[37:18] And I've seen a marked increase. And sometimes you won't
[37:22] see them because they're in Unmark cruisers. And so watch
[37:28] your gas pedal. But I think it's working very, very
[37:31] well. And, uh, the crime is down, obviously. And, uh,
[37:35] except for the, that's going to happen with booze. So
[37:39] thank you very much. No, congratulations. Okay. Inspector. Thanks Chair.
[37:45] And through you and to a point you just made
[37:47] there. Right. Every, um, concern that's brought forward by a
[37:51] member of the community here in Haldeman. It's definitely not
[37:54] discounted because I feel that we're out there. We might
[37:56] not be aware of concerns going on in certain areas.
[38:00] So if that's brought forward, that's where we can do,
[38:03] uh, analysis and see, have we been spending any time
[38:06] there is the concern validated by some of the analytics
[38:14] that we have that people have been reporting it and
[38:16] it has been addressed. And then we will try to
[38:18] refocus, uh, resources appropriately for to address some of these
[38:22] concerns, um, as available. Continue on
[38:32] page 23 in your report. Even though this is for
[38:35] Haldon County, I'll be speaking to this with, uh, when
[38:38] I quickly go through the MCFN report, um, this is
[38:40] obviously a concern, uh, which is our over to dose
[38:44] occurrences. In June, July, there was one, uh, fatal. And
[38:49] that was opioid or that was Don OPI to overdose.
[38:52] But there was also two non fatal. And those were
[38:56] both opioid overdoses. And the concern is looking obviously at
[38:59] year to date. And when you're comparing to the past
[39:02] 24 and 25, um, there's large increases there given the
[39:08] circumstances, uh, with eight now fatals in 2026. Um, four
[39:14] non opioid and for opioid overdose. And, um, I'll be
[39:20] honest with you, some of those stats, as far as
[39:22] whether they're opioid or non - opioid, those could change
[39:25] as we get, uh, information back from the centre of
[39:29] forensic sciences, on the toxicology reports, um, from the fatal
[39:34] occurrences. Um, and the non - fatal, as you can
[39:37] see, 11 of those were, uh, opioid overdose occurrences. Uh,
[39:43] so what I can say, you know, I've mentioned in
[39:45] the past, we do have, uh. I'm just going to
[39:49] bring up that piece right now from crying. We have
[39:52] our, uh, criminal investigations branch and other, uh, OPP supports
[39:56] involved. But just as a follow - up from our,
[39:59] uh, Detective Crime Sergeant, uh, regarding opiate overdoses, um, so
[40:03] postmortem and toxicology reports have concluded the fentanyl, fluorofental, uh,
[40:08] which I wasn't aware of. Another illicit drugs were directly
[40:11] attributed to the fatal and non - fatal overdoses in
[40:14] Halloween County. Um, and our investigators are continuing to work
[40:18] with Regional Municipal Police Agencies. You know, it transcends into
[40:23] different service areas. And our OPP support services mainly our
[40:28] criminal investigations brand and analytics in order to identify the
[40:32] traffickers of illicit substances. So this is an ongoing piece.
[40:37] Um, obviously if we get any crime stoppers tips as
[40:40] well, that's, that's a big, big help. But I know
[40:44] our community street team as well as our crime unit
[40:47] are both engaged in. Our fatal overdoses and non -
[40:51] fatal overdoses here in Haldeman County.
[41:02] Moving on to the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nation
[41:05] report. I didn't see any concerning trends. I'm going to
[41:11] bring your attention to page 30. Um, that's the violent
[41:16] crime. There was, uh, two assaults, firearms related occurrences in
[41:22] 2026. But not a serious bike that I have any
[41:27] concerning trends. Well, Mr. Credit First Nation, uh, property crime,
[41:34] there wasn't a lot of property crime report. I think
[41:36] three incidents total for the months of June and July.
[41:41] And then. The last piece in there I want to
[41:44] bring your attention to is on credit first station. There
[41:47] was, uh, fatal overdose between June and July, uh, and
[41:51] one non fatal, um, overdose as well. So two for
[41:57] Miss Sucker credit First Nation, which we know is a
[42:00] small population based on the territory itself. Any further questions
[42:09] or comments. Okay. Go ahead, Inspector. All right. I'm just
[42:14] going to continue on with, uh, the verbal piece where
[42:17] I provide information from some of our, uh, specialty positions
[42:20] within the Detachment. Um, first of all, for a stat,
[42:24] right events, which I know is not in our board
[42:26] report, um, for the last two months, uh, we had
[42:30] 140 compared to 95 in 2025. And year to date,
[42:35] I think we've had officers involved in 539 right events.
[42:39] And the previous year to date was 383 right events.
[42:45] Um, so I don't have any information report from, uh,
[42:47] PC Tyler Loney. He's our new community engagement officer. Uh,
[42:51] he's still getting his feet wet and getting into this.
[42:54] And so I'll have more information to report. In September
[42:57] from PC Loany. Uh, PC Graham Remple. He's our.
[43:11] Member miracle. We've got a new system apparently that they
[43:14] put in place over the summer break. Oh, it'll be
[43:21] much better next time. I just wanted to comment on,
[43:25] um, Detective Tyler. Inspector Tyler. The gentleman who you just
[43:31] spoke about that you had no report on. I know
[43:33] he has been in contact with some members of Ms.
[43:36] Alakera First Nation to do some, uh, collaborating on some
[43:41] assistants with safety, uh, teachings, I guess. So, so that
[43:46] is one thing that I know he is doing. Thank
[43:51] you, Member Miracle. Yes, PC Loni, uh, he's been very
[43:55] busy. Uh, he's been very engaged with our yippee student,
[43:59] few other things. So he just was not privy that
[44:03] he needed to report back to me, uh, in, in
[44:06] a timely fashion for this PC. And due to holidays
[44:08] with our Detachment Administrative clerk as well as PC Loni,
[44:12] uh, that's why I didn't have anything to report. But
[44:13] no, he's been very engaged. Um, he's doing a lot.
[44:16] I believe he was, this would come up in the
[44:18] next report because it was August. I know he's been
[44:20] out on Ms. Sucker credit First Nation a few times,
[44:23] uh, been very engaged with the UFP student. We have
[44:26] this summer, her last day is actually today. And I
[44:28] think that, uh, they're organised in a barbecue for her,
[44:31] uh, for her last day today. Um, and I think,
[44:34] uh, she'll do quite well if she's still looking towards
[44:37] a career in law enforcement. So hopefully we encouraged her
[44:40] for that. Um. Member McKeen. Thanks. I also wanted to
[44:50] comment on your officer that's doing a liaisoning. He wasn't
[44:54] able to make the community watch meeting in Selkirk because
[44:57] he was already otherwise engaged, but he did contact the
[45:01] organiser and, uh, they had some great conversation and he's
[45:04] going to try and make another meeting. So I can
[45:06] say that he has been, he has been out and
[45:09] about in the community, uh, we're really happy to have
[45:11] him. Thank you, Member McCree. Um, so PC Graham Bremple,
[45:20] he's our mental health liaison officer. Uh, he was very
[45:24] busy in the months of June and July supporting people.
[45:27] And I'm going to highlight a few things here for
[45:29] homeless prevention. So he continued collaboration with homeless prevention services
[45:33] with the county, uh, to support two individuals experiencing homelessness.
[45:37] One was in Dunville and one was in Caledonia. Um,
[45:40] both individuals were provided with available supports and resources. Unfortunately,
[45:45] both declined any assistants at this point in time, uh,
[45:49] but he, uh, is poised to stay engaged with them
[45:53] in the near future. Um, our MSERT team, um, they
[45:59] met with a homeless prevention team at the Star Motel,
[46:02] uh, which is just outside of Jarvis. They had to,
[46:05] uh, figure out in an exit. Different location for an
[46:09] unwanted client there who is not following the program rules.
[46:13] Um, so there was an eviction there from the Star
[46:15] Motel, but they were able to find another place for
[46:19] this individual. Um. He is also very gauged in mental
[46:24] health training. So under the CSPA, the mental health training
[46:30] that every officer has to take, um, the OPP were
[46:34] engaged with Laurier University and it's for the, uh, mental
[46:37] health crisis training. Um, so they've actually trained PC remple
[46:44] as a trainer. We have several within West region. Um,
[46:47] so all our members had to complete, um, online training,
[46:51] which was four modules. Uh, prior to going and doing,
[46:54] uh, in - person training and scenario - based training.
[46:58] And that'll occur in the fall. And PC Remple is
[47:01] one of the trainers. And we have several locations set
[47:05] up through West region where our members will have to
[47:07] go and take this training as part of the requirements
[47:10] under the CSPA. Project lifesaver asked him this morning, we've
[47:19] got nine clients currently on Project Lifesaver with two applications,
[47:24] um, that they're reviewing, uh, at this point in time.
[47:30] There were some at risk youth support. There was continued
[47:32] meetings with health care providers from Dunville and McMaster regarding
[47:35] at risk youth. Uh, the meetings focused on developing an
[47:38] AxPlan to provide the youth with appropriate supports. We're working
[47:41] toward reducing repeat calls for service. Uh, and inserting that
[47:46] community member receives a necessary care within the community. And
[47:53] then in regards to the mobile crisis response team, the
[47:56] umtrice team in the two months, they covered off 52
[47:59] shifts. Um. They were. Uh, they were working. Um, there
[48:03] was 47 individuals that they serve specific to mental health.
[48:09] And the diversion from the hospital based on their intervention
[48:12] was 95 percent. 95. Yeah. Uh, PC Leclerc, who's the
[48:22] provincial liaison team member, um, through June of July, he
[48:26] continued to attend weekly meetings with FIFA Canada as well
[48:29] as MCFN event planners. Um, and then he attended the
[48:33] event on July 7th. From my understanding from Raude, it
[48:37] went very well. I'm not sure if the attendance is
[48:40] what was hoped, but it was, uh, it was a
[48:43] good day. And one of those hitch. Rod also attended
[48:51] MCFN community meeting with Crime Stoppers that we heard discussed
[48:55] earlier this morning. Um, to educate the community on how
[48:58] crime stoppers program works and it's effective as the build
[49:01] of saviour community. I understand the response was good, but
[49:04] obviously, uh, member miracle would be able to discuss more
[49:07] on that. Officer Detective Constable Decker. He is our, uh,
[49:15] Omap coordinator that we had him in recently this year
[49:18] to discuss that role. Um, so total number of fenders
[49:21] on Omap currently in Haldeman County. There's 24. There was
[49:25] one new offender added in July 1st. Um, there were
[49:30] six complaints checks conducted. Um, there was 10 breaches that
[49:34] occurred. Um, GPS offenders being monitored in Haldeman. There's nine.
[49:42] And Warren's executed in Haldoburn. Between the coordinator patrol and
[49:48] judges order was 15. We have currently outstanding 74 warrants.
[49:54] Um, which isn't bad. I think we're up over a
[49:56] hundred before. So, um, Detective Consul Decker. He's doing a
[50:02] great job at making sure we're on top of those
[50:04] and looking for those offenders. Um. Yeah. As far as
[50:10] the crime unit goes, the Detective Sergeant, I have already
[50:13] touched on the opiate overdoses and they continue to work
[50:16] diligently on that. I know members of his unit. There
[50:21] was a human trafficking case and they were able to
[50:23] support a mostly disturbed person who disclosed being a victim
[50:29] of, uh, human trafficking. So they engaged services such as
[50:33] the OPP antihuman trafficking unit and organised crime. If your
[50:37] enforcement bureau, um, and actively and Canned, the Canadian border
[50:42] services, I forgot them. And they're actively working to identify
[50:45] further victims and party's responsible this. So it's an ongoing
[50:48] investigation. The last piece I want to bring up, which
[50:52] hasn't hit the news yet, but the Detective Sergeant said
[50:55] I could bring it up. And it's probably going to
[50:56] come out very shortly. Um, is in regards to a
[51:00] historical missing person. Um, by the name of Robert Asher.
[51:05] So he had not been hurted or seen of since
[51:08] 1981 from the Dunville area. Haldoman Norfolk Regional Police initially
[51:14] investigated it. Originally investigated the missing person investigation. Anyways, just
[51:22] recently, uh, the team that have investigators that has continued
[51:25] to investigate this, um, they were able to, uh, it
[51:30] was in October 25 further review of the file identified
[51:34] a potential connection between Robert Achert and an unidentified human
[51:39] remains recovered by NAG or regional police in Port Colburn
[51:42] in 1982. So through the investigation, uh, and forensic review,
[51:48] um, they were able to identify those human remains as
[51:51] being Robert Asher. And the family members were made aware
[51:56] in July. And my understanding and speaking with the Detective
[51:59] Sergeant is the media release forthcoming this week. So that
[52:07] concludes my report. And I'm available for any questions. Any
[52:12] further questions or comments. Thank you very much. No, no.
[52:28] The missile soggred First Nations report. Okay. You went through
[52:37] it that fast. Through one or the other. There wasn't
[52:43] any concerning trends. We touched on the Biomin Friday. Right.
[52:46] Okay. The concerning was the opioid overdose. I told you.
[52:57] No further questions or comments. Uh, they have a mover
[53:00] and a seconder. They're the report be received as, uh,
[53:03] information. Yeah. Uh, all those in favor pose that's carried
[53:08] unanimously. Thank you. Thank you, Inspector. Review of the operational,
[53:15] uh, budget that the looking for movement or seconder that
[53:18] the board's financials and current reserve figures dated August 15,
[53:22] 2026 be received as presented. Mover. Stewart. Second at
[53:32] McKeen, member McKeen. Any questions or comments on that.
[53:43] The administrative tells me that we're pretty well in line
[53:46] with everything. And, uh, and again, there's a comment that
[53:51] I made earlier that I think we, unless, unless the
[53:55] board is opposed to that approach of adding an additional
[53:59] five. Because they understand the discussion going on with that
[54:03] budget right now. Sandra. So through the chair, um, I'm
[54:10] currently working with our finance division right now on developing
[54:12] the 2027 budget typically we would bring that to the
[54:15] October meeting. But those of you looking at your agenda
[54:19] would have noticed the next item is that we don't
[54:21] want to have that meeting. Um, so I'm hoping to
[54:23] bring it to the next. I hadn't discussed previously with
[54:27] them whether the, um, ability for us to increase our
[54:32] donations budget. I will talk to them and see how
[54:35] much pushback I get. Gotta try. Right. If you don't
[54:38] ask the answers, always know. So yeah, so I'll, I'll
[54:42] touch base with them. I've already, I guess I've been
[54:44] in conversation with our financial analysts about, you know, but
[54:48] our budget comes from, um, council and MCFN, you know,
[54:53] in various portions. And we have to keep that in
[54:55] mind that, um, that we can want all the things,
[54:57] but we do have to keep in mind that the
[54:59] money has to come from somewhere. Right. So, um, hoping
[55:02] that we'll have that, um, something for you to look
[55:04] at in September. Okay. All those in favor of the
[55:10] recommendation. Posed carry. Did I do that vote. I don't
[55:16] think I did, did I? I voted twice. No, he
[55:19] didn't vote. No. Okay. I did the motion, the mover
[55:21] in a second. Yeah. We'll get her. We'll get this
[55:25] down yet. Uh, item number three,
[55:35] cancellation of the October 22nd, 26 budget, uh, meeting. And,
[55:41] uh, again, it's, um, it's being suggested because of the,
[55:46] uh, the proximity to the municipal election. And the work
[55:51] involvement. Uh, Police Services Board Administrator, of course, for other
[55:56] hat, is she's largely involved in the municipal election. So
[56:02] it's going to be, it's going to be kind of
[56:03] tough. We have members actually three members who are involved
[56:10] as participants and candidates in the elections. So it's, it's
[56:16] kind of a very difficult time for everyone. That's the
[56:21] rationale behind it all. Um, having said all that and
[56:26] the information that you have in your package, uh, looking
[56:29] for a mover in a seconder that the Haldomano PP
[56:32] Detachment Board meeting scheduled for October 22nd, 2026, be cancelled
[56:36] due to its proximity to the 2026 municipal and school
[56:40] board elections. Remember McKeen, seconder, all those in favor.
[56:52] Pose that's carried unanimously. Thank you. Unfinished business, the action
[56:57] plan update, Inspector. You've got, we had the, um, we're
[57:03] going to. Go to four, which is the November meeting
[57:09] reschedule. Whereas they would be in your dentist. There's, Oh,
[57:15] hold on here. Hold on. Let me get to my,
[57:18] my pages. Yeah. It's on the main one. So four
[57:22] is the November meeting. Yeah. We're changing the date, right?
[57:30] Yeah. Okay. Or sorry. Right. I got it. Yeah. I'm
[57:36] lying. Yeah. Thank you. Next item is the Recheduling of
[57:41] the November 26th. 2026 board meeting, uh, and that is
[57:47] looking for a mover in the seconder that due to
[57:50] scheduling conflicts. The November 26, 2026 Haldeman OPP Detachment Board
[57:56] meeting be rescheduled to November the 19th, 2026 at 9
[58:00] 40 a. m. in the council chambers at the Haldeman
[58:03] County Administration Building. I always kneed
[58:13] in, do you know. She won't be able to be
[58:17] here either. Oh, you don't know. Yeah. I have to.
[58:22] Go to school. That week. Okay. Anyone else know that
[58:27] they're not available of that. Yep. Okay. All right. So
[58:33] we'll move her in a seconder. I remember McKeen, membershaw.
[58:40] All those in favor. Opposed. That's carried unanimously. And it'll
[58:46] be noted, Sandra will make notation that you are not
[58:50] available for that meeting. Okay. Now, thank you Sandra. Now
[58:58] the action plan update Inspector Fox. This is the. New.
[59:04] Order. Procedure that we're going to waive the procedure by
[59:07] law. Uh, do the insurance renewal. We're doing that under
[59:14] items to consider items of consideration. So under this one.
[59:18] Okay. Okay. Hold on. You better have a good rapport
[59:22] here. I'm never going to get to it. Uh, we
[59:27] need, um, I think you received a late notification that,
[59:33] uh, the administrator had received 11th hour information regarding the,
[59:39] uh, group insurance. Um, that the, uh, that the board
[59:43] is under and so on. And, um, as a result,
[59:48] because of the time frames, um, it was decided that
[59:53] we need to deal with that at this meeting rather
[59:56] than at the September meeting. So move her in a
[1:00:00] seconder that the procedural bylaw be waived to consider a
[1:00:03] motion regarding renewal of the Haldeman OPP Detachment Board Insurance
[1:00:07] policy. Mover. McCaskell, secondary member McKeen, all those in favor.
[1:00:17] Pose that's carried unanimously. Thank you. And a mover in
[1:00:23] a seconder and it would be whereas the insurer has
[1:00:26] agreed to renew the OAPSB group insurance program for the
[1:00:30] upcoming policy term beginning September 27th, 2026 with minor improvements
[1:00:36] to coverage and limits as the previous term. And whereas
[1:00:41] the insurer has confirmed that there will be a decrease
[1:00:44] of 50 dollars in the premium for the renewal term.
[1:00:48] And the annual premium will change to 3, 550 dollars
[1:00:54] plus 8 percent tax. Therefore be it resolved that the
[1:00:58] board hereby authorized the Board Administrator to proceed with the
[1:01:01] payment of the annual insurance premium in the total amount
[1:01:04] of 3, 835 dollars including tax to secure coverage under
[1:01:10] the OAPSB Group Insurance Program for the policy term commencing
[1:01:15] September 27, 2026. Sandra. Mover in a second or first.
[1:01:23] Remember McCaskell and member Shaw. Sandra. So through the
[1:01:32] chair, we are required to have insurance. We're sort of
[1:01:36] a captive audience because we're a very particular organisation. Um,
[1:01:39] the insurance, this is the same insurance that we've had
[1:01:44] is just a renewal. They have let us know that
[1:01:48] they have looked at how much we've used the insurance
[1:01:50] as a group, I guess. And it decided the premium
[1:01:53] go down a whole 50 dollars. And the improvements would
[1:01:59] be that the, I'm reading this exactly. The aggregate limit
[1:02:02] for the professional liability policies has been increased from 10
[1:02:06] million to 20 million dollars. Sure. And then the rental
[1:02:14] car physical damage coverage is being extended from non -
[1:02:18] owned auto policy for active board members renting vehicles for
[1:02:21] board - related duties in the amount of 50, 000
[1:02:24] dollars of physical damage coverage included automatically. As long as
[1:02:28] you're performing duties of the board and you're an active
[1:02:29] board member. So those are the two things that they've
[1:02:32] added or increased. Um, the renewal document otherwise is identical
[1:02:36] to what we had last year, um. Okay. That's it.
[1:02:42] Uh, all those in favor. Oppose that's carried unanimously. Thank
[1:02:47] you. Now the long awaited action plan update from Inspector
[1:02:56] Fox. Thank you, Chair. And through you, I'm not sure
[1:03:03] it'll be as exciting as you may be hoping for.
[1:03:06] Um, the basic update is that it has been finalised,
[1:03:09] which I think it's been circulated to the board and
[1:03:12] electronic format. I did print out, or I got our
[1:03:16] print shop in GHQ to print me out, uh, a
[1:03:19] few that I had for the Detachment to provide to
[1:03:23] management and supervisors at the Detachment as well as some
[1:03:26] of the folks looking after specific roles that would be
[1:03:29] engaged in the action plan. Um, I've already had sit
[1:03:33] down meetings with, um, some of the members that'll have
[1:03:37] a lot of work to do in there as we
[1:03:38] talked about PC Tyler Loney, uh, community watch programs and
[1:03:42] some of those pieces, but it includes our mental health
[1:03:45] liaison, our domestic abuse issues investigator. OMAP coordinator. I almost
[1:03:54] left him out. Um, anyways, so they've all been engaged.
[1:03:58] They're all aware of the action plan moving forward as
[1:04:00] well as the entire detachment. They all have a copy
[1:04:02] of it as well electronically. Um, but just to know
[1:04:05] some of the commitments that we need to reach and,
[1:04:08] uh, the actions that we're going to be looking to
[1:04:09] take over the next four years of this, uh, this
[1:04:12] Detachment Action Plan. It has not, I did a check
[1:04:16] and it's not been uploaded to the OPPA as of
[1:04:20] yet. Obviously it's available for public viewing. If they were
[1:04:22] to log on today and see it attached to the
[1:04:25] agenda, uh, but it, as soon as I find out
[1:04:28] that it's been uploaded to the OPPA, sorry, I keep
[1:04:32] saying OPPA. OPP. ca website. I'll make sure that, uh,
[1:04:37] it's noted here. Okay. And then the Republican have a
[1:04:43] good look at it as well. And I, and I'm
[1:04:45] just quickly on here on the commitment summary roadways, waterway
[1:04:51] and trails because this actually was a question that I
[1:04:55] asked. In the action plan for the next three years,
[1:04:59] because we're into the first year already. So for the
[1:05:02] next three years enhanced proactive enforcement and visibility across our
[1:05:06] detachment area by continuing to enforce the big four and
[1:05:10] targeting local traffic safety trends on our roadways, waterways and
[1:05:15] trails. So if anybody questions whether traffic enforcement is a
[1:05:24] priority of this detachment or not, it's right there in
[1:05:27] writing as you verbalized earlier in the meeting. Any questions
[1:05:35] or comments on the, uh, action plan. I know that
[1:05:38] the board had some direct involvement. Membershaw, member of la
[1:05:44] form, uh, myself, member McKeen, of course. And sat down
[1:05:49] with the Detachment Commander for a couple of meetings, actually,
[1:05:52] to try to get the community perspective from, from our
[1:05:57] end, plus all the outreach that you actually did yourself
[1:06:01] through the Detachment for the community and specific interest groups
[1:06:07] as well. So I think you're to be commanded for
[1:06:09] that, I think is very, very reflective of what a
[1:06:13] lot of us are hearing out there in the, uh,
[1:06:15] in the community. So keep up the good work.
[1:06:34] There you go. I agree. I was very impressed with
[1:06:38] the whole process. We were included from the beginning, the
[1:06:42] community was included. And even when they didn't get a
[1:06:46] very good response from the community, you went back to
[1:06:49] the community for more. So I'm very impressed with this.
[1:06:53] I think it's well laid out. I think one of
[1:06:55] the number one things in here, which we already talked
[1:06:59] about is people have to contact the OPP in order
[1:07:02] for them to know where the hotspots are. What is
[1:07:06] happening? And there is a good process in place to
[1:07:10] address those and I think we're in a really good
[1:07:14] spot for the next four years. Congratulations. Thank you. Okay.
[1:07:21] Thank you. All right. Do we have a motion for
[1:07:27] that? It's just an information item. Okay. Thank you, Inspector.
[1:07:33] Other business update on the Detachment Commander Performance Review. The
[1:07:43] Inspector has the document that the Board presented with regards
[1:07:49] to the review. And we're just waiting for response back
[1:07:53] from the Detachment Commander. That's where that stands at this
[1:07:57] point in time. And I understand in talking to Andy
[1:08:01] a few days ago about it, that it's coming. He
[1:08:06] has some other priorities and so on. But it is
[1:08:09] coming and it's the timeframe. I think Sandra, it's for
[1:08:13] the end of the year, isn't it? As far as
[1:08:15] that goes, uh, and, and, uh, Detachment Commander tells me
[1:08:19] that in talking with his colleagues were well ahead of
[1:08:23] the curve on this particular issue from what he's hearing.
[1:08:27] So we'll have that in timely fashion. Police governance, Ontario
[1:08:34] Communications. The past little while the Inspector had been pretty
[1:08:41] busy sending out, uh, emails and regarding regarding their annual
[1:08:48] report. I think it's 60 some odd pages, uh, Sandra
[1:08:55] and I decided that we weren't going to, uh, put
[1:08:57] the paper on there, but you have a link if
[1:09:01] you want to, uh, read the Inspectorates report. The governance
[1:09:06] of policing Ontario, formerly the Ontario Association of Police Services
[1:09:10] Boards has also been busy sending out, um, information pieces
[1:09:15] and trying to boil it down to how it affects,
[1:09:19] um, municipal police services, uh, not six nations, but indigenous
[1:09:25] police service boards, but also OPP police service boards. So
[1:09:32] the first item on Inspectorative Policing is on page 60.
[1:09:39] And I think this is good for the public to
[1:09:43] know too, because I think they lose sight of it.
[1:09:47] And anything that our role is a police services board
[1:09:50] or detachment board is different than it really is. Detachment
[1:09:54] boards do not direct police operations. They play an important
[1:10:00] governance role, however, in understanding the needs, the concerns and
[1:10:05] the priorities of the communities within their detachment, uh, the.
[1:10:17] First. Report that, uh, came through notice of issue that
[1:10:23] came through actually was, uh, regards to hate motivation and
[1:10:29] so on. And I actually had a board member who,
[1:10:33] uh, and we're going to be putting it on the
[1:10:35] September agenda. And it was regards how the detachment commander
[1:10:41] and our detachment deals with hate related crimes and hate
[1:10:48] related demons. As an example, that, that's sort of what
[1:10:54] initiated the board members concern. We're going to have it
[1:10:57] on the September meeting. You and I will be talking
[1:10:59] before that, uh, Inspector, because I think this is the
[1:11:01] first you've heard of this from me. Uh, so I'll
[1:11:05] give you more in depth detail. And the board may
[1:11:12] wish to consider, and this is from the governance of
[1:11:15] policing Ontario, what information is available regarding hate motivated incidents
[1:11:21] within our Detachment area. Community partners local groups and service
[1:11:27] proprietors. And whether these issues are emerging as community safety
[1:11:31] concerns. I guess the first thing is we can't say
[1:11:35] that it doesn't exist. Of course, it exists all over.
[1:11:39] But to what level? And that's the discussion you and
[1:11:42] I will have when prior two, uh, bringing it back
[1:11:46] to the table in September, because I don't know the
[1:11:49] answers. You and I'm not talking with that. Uh, the
[1:11:55] other thing. That was the first notice. Of the inspector
[1:12:01] at the second, um. Notice was integrity. And what does
[1:12:09] it mean for OPP Detachment Boards? And I've highlighted the
[1:12:13] principles of legitimacy accountability, transparency, evidence - informed decision -
[1:12:19] making and continuous improvement applies across Ontario's policing governance framework.
[1:12:26] And informed oversight of the Detachment Performance, uh, which includes
[1:12:32] meaningful engagement with the communities that we serve, thoughtful, strategic
[1:12:38] discussions and ongoing board development. And they're saying that we
[1:12:44] should question ourself, they being the police governance, Ontario, the
[1:12:48] Associationists, saying you should question yourself as a board. How
[1:12:54] does our board demonstrate integrity through the governance practices and
[1:12:58] beyond legislative compliance? How do our governance practices strengthen public
[1:13:04] confidence. And the other points in there and the information
[1:13:08] that, uh, that Sandra provided as well. And finally, the,
[1:13:16] oh, almost finally. A lot of the report from the
[1:13:23] Inspectora of Policing Deals with anti - corruption because of
[1:13:26] the situation that, uh, was it peel, uh, Inspector. Do
[1:13:30] you remember. Was the Toronto Police Service. Yeah. Yeah. From
[1:13:35] that, and, uh, and again, what does it mean to
[1:13:39] on OPP Detachment boards, uh, integrity, accountability, transparency are fundamental
[1:13:46] principles effective governance, regardless of the policing model. It's an
[1:13:51] opportunity for the board to consider whether they are providing
[1:13:54] informed civilian oversight. Asking thoughtful governance questions and receiving meaningful
[1:14:01] reports from the Detachment Commander, understanding community priorities and concerns.
[1:14:09] And continually strengthening the effectives of the board. So I
[1:14:14] think as we go through the last three, four months
[1:14:18] of our mandate as a board, that if we can
[1:14:21] keep some of these things in mind and kind of
[1:14:27] interlock inwardly and seeing, Hey, are we doing this? Are
[1:14:32] we, you know, and I know that the inspectors told
[1:14:34] me, Hey, you tell me what you want in the
[1:14:37] reports as far as the process and the way it's
[1:14:40] being presented in the formatting and so on. If you
[1:14:43] want something more, if you want something less, if you
[1:14:45] want it in a different way, let them know. And
[1:14:48] he certainly will take it into consideration and provide us
[1:14:52] the information that way. Uh, that's just, that's just one
[1:14:55] item. And again, are we strengthening our self in our
[1:15:02] effectiveness and the board? Do we have, do we feel
[1:15:06] that we have, um, the pulse of the community. In
[1:15:12] our discussions, in our questioning and so on. And I
[1:15:15] think it's been said by a couple of members here.
[1:15:17] Hey, we don't know. We're not around all the time
[1:15:21] either. We have our own home basis outside of those
[1:15:25] home bases. What's going on? Do we have the community's
[1:15:29] pulse when we formulate questions when we have discussions with
[1:15:33] the Detachment commander and so on? And if we don't,
[1:15:37] then it behooves us to try to find ways to
[1:15:40] get that to improve that. Okay. And, and I know
[1:15:45] from working with you for some of you for four
[1:15:48] years. And, uh, most of you for two, two and
[1:15:52] a half years that we all kind of feel that
[1:15:55] same way. We want to be reflective of the needs
[1:15:59] of the community that we serve in large and the
[1:16:03] territory. Okay. And finally when compliance isn't enough.
[1:16:13] What's it mean for the OPP boards. Uh, and it
[1:16:18] says that OPP Detachment Boards governance affectedness means more than
[1:16:24] reviewing reports or meeting statutory obligations. Effective board's understand the
[1:16:30] communities. They serve, not going to repeat myself. Meaningful questions
[1:16:36] about policing priorities in comparison to community needs monitor local
[1:16:41] action plan activity and sure governance discussions remain focused on
[1:16:46] strategic oversight. Governance is strengthened when boards actively use the
[1:16:50] information they received to support better decisions and improve accountability.
[1:16:56] So there's a lot of work for us to do
[1:16:59] and to continue to do, we can improve. Uh, anybody
[1:17:02] can improve. The inspector can improve. His detachment can improve.
[1:17:07] And he's striving to see that it does continue to
[1:17:10] improve. And we as a board certainly will strive with
[1:17:15] cooperation of the members to improve in our role as
[1:17:21] board members, especially under the new community safety and policing
[1:17:26] act, which has only been out for a couple of
[1:17:28] years now. Okay. Any further comments or questions on this.
[1:17:38] Okay. Thank you. Um. The next item on page
[1:17:48] 76 is the remuneration, uh, survey. Gets page 76.
[1:18:17] One moment, please, Inspector of Policing annual. Portrait. If you've
[1:18:23] noticed.
[1:18:36] Oh, there it is. The report you have on page
[1:18:47] 76. Basically, the Police Governance, Ontario, uh, is looking to
[1:18:56] OPP Detachment Boards Municipal Boards too as well. But, uh,
[1:19:00] we'll be interested in the OPP Detachment Boards of Remuneration
[1:19:03] Survey just to see what's, what's going on with other
[1:19:07] boards. And that particular information. At the Ontario Association of
[1:19:16] Police Services Board Conference. In Blue Mountain, in the Blue
[1:19:21] Mountain area, this issue came up near the end of
[1:19:24] the final day of the conference. What became pretty apparent
[1:19:29] there was that, uh, police services boards were being remunerated
[1:19:35] totally different. Some, as we do, had a flat fee
[1:19:40] with additional per diems for board chairs and vice chairs.
[1:19:46] No, just board chairs. And, uh, others were remunerated on
[1:19:51] a per meeting basis. Um, and, uh, there was another,
[1:19:56] there was another form of remuneration that escapes me right
[1:19:59] now. However, when we got talking amongst ourselves with the
[1:20:04] Ontario Association of Provincial, uh, of police services boards, what
[1:20:10] also became apparent was that the activity of the boards
[1:20:16] and the involvement of the boards were totally different. For
[1:20:19] example, one person got up and said, well, my five
[1:20:23] hundred dollars. I'm well compensated at five hundred dollars in
[1:20:29] the meantime. And, uh, anyway, there was just no comparison
[1:20:37] whatsoever. So here we are almost two years later. And
[1:20:41] I think the now govern, policing Ontario. Formerly the OAPSB
[1:20:51] has taken some of those questions and concerns into consideration
[1:20:56] and they're going to try to do an apples to
[1:20:58] apples comparison. That's going to be really, really difficult. Um,
[1:21:05] I've, I forwarded, uh, this morning, actually just before I
[1:21:10] left, I forwarded a copy of the survey, a link
[1:21:15] to the copy of the survey to our administrator and
[1:21:18] also to our vice chair, uh, membershaw. There's 35 questions
[1:21:25] and some of them have multiple breakdowns in questions. So
[1:21:31] with the, uh, with the Borton and Kelly, are you
[1:21:37] OK sitting down with myself and Sandra in formulating the
[1:21:41] response? They want one response, which I totally understand. So
[1:21:48] if you're good with that, then we'll strike a committee.
[1:21:52] They want a response prior to September the 11th or
[1:21:56] by September the 11th. I think they'll take it any
[1:22:00] time they can get it as far as that goes,
[1:22:03] because this has been on the back burner for a
[1:22:04] long time. Um, and, uh, will provide the information. Watch
[1:22:10] your emails. We may have to reach out to you.
[1:22:12] They want to know, for example, how much time do
[1:22:15] you as a member put in on the police services
[1:22:18] board? That's kind of important because then that goes to,
[1:22:22] as I talked about the individual who was getting 500
[1:22:25] dollars, and, uh, and actually, uh, Kelly and Deborah at
[1:22:34] the last, uh, at the last conference, we were sitting
[1:22:38] with a couple of members from the far north. And
[1:22:42] their meetings last 15 minutes. Right. And then, yeah, and
[1:22:47] it took some of them two hours to get to
[1:22:50] a 15 meeting Detachment Board meeting. So is it an
[1:22:55] effective meeting. Not for us to say, but we can
[1:22:59] formulate our own, uh, opinion on it. So it's going
[1:23:03] to be difficult to get apples to apples comparison, but
[1:23:06] they're going to try. So Sandra, the chair, the vice
[1:23:12] chair. And if you can come up, pull us for
[1:23:15] an appropriate date and time. Okay. And, uh, we'll keep
[1:23:20] you breasts. Pledge to let the boards that participate know
[1:23:27] what the final result, uh, we'll be able to see
[1:23:30] what our other colleagues are doing. Any further comments on
[1:23:37] that. Okay. Upcoming meetings. Board member administrators
[1:23:47] zone four meeting in Oakville, September the 16th. All members
[1:23:54] and along with the administrator is invited to attend. This
[1:23:58] is the first. These used to be held on a
[1:24:01] quarterly basis. This is the first one. And the Detachment
[1:24:06] Commander, you were there. Um, member McCaskell. This is the
[1:24:11] first meeting since September of last year that was held
[1:24:16] in Woodstock. They used to be quarterly. First one in
[1:24:21] a year. Um, and as well, the Detachment Commander and
[1:24:27] Board chairs meeting. And this date was set several, several
[1:24:31] weeks before zone four, uh, notified us that they were
[1:24:35] finally going to have a face to face meeting. Uh,
[1:24:38] is going to be held on September the 25th. And
[1:24:42] again, it will be in Brant County. So, uh, Inspector
[1:24:47] Fox and myself will, uh, will be there. And, uh,
[1:24:50] we'll be reporting back, um, the information and the dialogue.
[1:24:55] And actually, as he mentioned of the, remember now when
[1:24:59] you gave your answer that, yeah, that inspector was, uh,
[1:25:04] was going to work on some sort of a closing
[1:25:08] the loop on complaints. But there were legal things they
[1:25:12] had to check into as well too, I believe. So
[1:25:16] that probably one of the items that'll be on that
[1:25:18] agenda. OPP News Portal. And this came out from the
[1:25:26] fact that, um, there's articles that are appearing in the
[1:25:29] press. They're appearing in the media. Um, and. The board
[1:25:35] isn't receiving any of that particular, uh, information. Um, Andy
[1:25:40] and I have had a couple of discussions about this.
[1:25:42] And the last one was that, uh, he thought that
[1:25:45] there had been a portal that had been released to
[1:25:49] the board through the administrator's office. And it was, but
[1:25:56] it was through a previous administrator and the message didn't
[1:26:00] carry that they were to flow through to us. Sandra.
[1:26:07] So I sort of joined as a Board Administrator midstream.
[1:26:11] I'm going through, um, old documents and, um, and emails.
[1:26:16] So the last communication I have about the portal would
[1:26:20] have been from 2019. So it's really stale. Um, and
[1:26:24] that information, I assume because there wasn't anything more recent
[1:26:28] was that board members were given login options for the
[1:26:32] OPP portal. So they could choose to get all of
[1:26:34] these notifications. So this is just for your awareness would
[1:26:38] be just notices about significant. Crime events or a lot
[1:26:42] of the things that they publish in the, you know,
[1:26:44] they have that OPP Detachment piece in the in the
[1:26:47] local Haldeman press or local papers. Um, I get them
[1:26:51] through the administrator email address. And I was under the
[1:26:55] impression that you folks were all getting them as well
[1:26:57] and didn't in the interest of not spamming anyone was
[1:27:00] not forwarding them as such. So I'm not clear like
[1:27:04] you folks were signed up or were not given the
[1:27:06] option. You were not given the information to sign up.
[1:27:08] So no. So I did reach out to the, um,
[1:27:12] to the local media person from that portal where the,
[1:27:16] uh, they originate from just to confirm that I can
[1:27:18] share that information with you to create your own login
[1:27:21] so that you could choose to get them directly to
[1:27:23] your inbox. Um, just to sort of remove me as
[1:27:27] a middle person, um, they are on holiday, haven't returned
[1:27:30] yet. Um, so I'll keep you all posted on that.
[1:27:34] Um, but I'm expecting to hear back probably in the
[1:27:36] next week or so. And I'll just forward you. And
[1:27:38] that way you folks could choose to sign up to
[1:27:40] get these emails directly to your inbox so that you're
[1:27:42] aware of these events as they happen. Looks like Inspector
[1:27:45] Fox might have some comments. Yes, thank you. Thank you,
[1:27:49] Sandra. Thanks, Andrew. And through you, Chair, I was just
[1:27:54] quickly trying to look on my phone to see if
[1:27:55] I could find the email. I know, um, Derek Rogers
[1:28:01] out of West Region headquarters. I know he looks after
[1:28:03] this, um, media portal. This news portal. And my understanding
[1:28:09] is that, uh, and I could be wrong on this,
[1:28:13] Sandra, but I don't know if everybody can sign up
[1:28:16] to it. I know the PSB Administrator email has been
[1:28:18] signed up for, for many years. Um, but I think
[1:28:22] there might be a limit to the number of people
[1:28:24] they sign up to it. You might get that information
[1:28:26] back. So through the chair. Yeah. So that's what I'm
[1:28:30] anticipating. I just wanted to confirm before again, I just
[1:28:32] give everybody access and they perhaps shouldn't. If it looks
[1:28:35] like there is a limited number of access or limited
[1:28:39] amount of access, then I would be asking people, you
[1:28:42] know, individual board members whether they are interested in receiving
[1:28:44] them, in which case I just, excuse me, created distribution
[1:28:47] list and pass them along as necessary. But the less
[1:28:50] manual we can make it, the less likely we miss
[1:28:52] something. And that's, that's what I'm hoping for. So stay
[1:28:57] tuned. Next item corresponds from the solicitor general re OPP
[1:29:05] municipal policing costs. And that is on page 78.
[1:29:16] So in short, they're basically saying that, uh, no, no
[1:29:21] municipality or that receives a bill is going to receive
[1:29:24] one that is more than 11 percent. And that 11
[1:29:29] percent does that take the subsidy that they provided into
[1:29:35] consideration. We don't know. Because if you recall the last
[1:29:41] bill, I think our neighbours to the west here received
[1:29:46] a bill that was like 50 percent or 75 percent
[1:29:51] higher than previous and Haldeman County had received a bill
[1:29:56] that was substantially higher, but not as bad as Norfolks.
[1:30:01] And, uh, basically throughout the province, they all received a
[1:30:04] real increase. The province said, okay, this isn't sustainable. We
[1:30:08] can't do this. And, uh, but I'm sorry, I never
[1:30:12] thought of this until after you and I met when
[1:30:14] we had talked about the agenda item. But so is
[1:30:18] it, I'm hoping that they're going to say it's, no,
[1:30:22] it's the substantized rate. Is in effect. And this is
[1:30:27] no more than 11 percent once that rate is subsidized
[1:30:32] by the province. But we'll see. So. I can't imagine
[1:30:39] that they would. Increase it like, you know, a hundred
[1:30:43] percent 75 percent. Plus another under 11 percent. However. Thank
[1:30:51] you. Any questions on, on this. Okay. And the county
[1:30:56] is paying the bill there. Leslie, how does, how does
[1:30:59] that work for the Mississaugas of the credit First Nation.
[1:31:03] Who pays your bill? Is it the band council. Yes.
[1:31:11] The bank council pays it. I do have questions, but
[1:31:15] I'm going to see if I can talk to you
[1:31:16] first to put it on the agenda for next meeting.
[1:31:25] And that is all we have listed on the printed
[1:31:32] pages. You should have the attendance. Yep. It's here. It's
[1:31:39] here. Under.
[1:31:49] Other business. And this was a late addition to the
[1:31:53] agendas that, uh, that you received probably four or five
[1:31:57] days ago now. And regards to the collision reporting centre
[1:32:03] service delivery model update. The Inspector, um, made the chair,
[1:32:09] uh. Aware of changes that, uh, he would like to
[1:32:15] consider, um, with regards to the collision reporting, uh, centre.
[1:32:22] And I'm going to, uh. Turn it over to the
[1:32:25] Detachment Commander. Yeah. Thank you, Chair. Through you, um, basically
[1:32:32] the collision reporting setter. I think everybody's fairly aware of
[1:32:35] it. It was new to who Haldoman OPP prior to
[1:32:39] my arrival in 23. I'm not sure if it went
[1:32:42] in in 21 or 22. Um. But, uh, the collision
[1:32:48] reporting, centre, what it does is supposed to look after,
[1:32:51] uh, minor collisions. Um, property damage, um, you know, vehicle
[1:32:57] collisions embolding wildlife, et cetera. Um, we had an analysis
[1:33:01] done. First of all, the Detachment, there's a few things
[1:33:04] too that we're looking at. And quite honestly, the piece
[1:33:08] we're looking at is, uh, discontinuing the collision reporting centre.
[1:33:13] Um, the reason being is, uh, the front of our
[1:33:15] detachment is not really set up for tow trucks to
[1:33:19] be navigating the area to bring in vehicles that we're
[1:33:22] damaged if they weren't drivable. Um, secondly, uh, when we
[1:33:28] did a review of the analysis, obviously the main point
[1:33:32] of a collision reporting centre is to redirect some of
[1:33:35] our frontline services, um, the frontline members to other opportunities
[1:33:40] they could be doing in the county. So when we
[1:33:42] have the analysts, take a look at it. I think
[1:33:45] there was just approximately over 900, uh, motor vehicle collisions
[1:33:49] and Haldeman County in 2025 and approximately 420 were completed
[1:33:57] by our collision reporting centre. Um, now the collision reporting
[1:34:01] centre right now is currently staff by our Detachment clerks
[1:34:04] at the front. Um, and it's the reporting mechanism isn't
[1:34:10] as investigative intensive as I would like it to be.
[1:34:14] Uh, when reviewing some of those calls for service, I
[1:34:16] believe there's a possibility of for charges in many of
[1:34:20] those collisions that occurred. And as we discuss about traffic
[1:34:24] collision, uh, or sorry, traffic collision, traffic concerns within the
[1:34:29] county, that's obviously, uh, very, uh, important topic. So, um,
[1:34:35] I wanted to make you aware that that was something
[1:34:37] we were kind of looking at and just some, uh,
[1:34:39] feedback from the, uh, from the board in relationship questions
[1:34:44] or comments.
[1:34:55] So I love that centre is there. Because it's easy
[1:35:01] to get to. However, I do agree with you that
[1:35:06] they wouldn't be able to go out and inspect all
[1:35:09] the vehicles and everything like that. I've had to use
[1:35:11] it a couple of times, but on things where somebody
[1:35:16] did something to my car. I don't know where I
[1:35:18] went. I didn't notice it till I got home. And
[1:35:22] went to all these different ones. They're like, nope, you
[1:35:25] notice it on your property, go to Kyga. I'm like,
[1:35:28] okay. So then I just recently got hit by a
[1:35:31] turkey. I didn't hit it. It hit me. And I
[1:35:35] had to go and report it because there is a
[1:35:37] small damage in my vehicle just in case I need
[1:35:39] it for insurance and such. So for that, them kind
[1:35:43] of incident, it would be okay. But if it was
[1:35:45] like a actual collision where two cars are hitting and
[1:35:49] you have to do the tow trucks and everything. No,
[1:35:51] I don't think it's set up for that. Andy. Yeah.
[1:35:57] Thanks. And if I can just replay to that, uh,
[1:35:59] through you chair, uh, the difficult part in looking at
[1:36:01] this is we can't, there's not really a hybrid solution
[1:36:04] to running a collision reporting centre. Um, because there's a
[1:36:10] certain scope of the type of collisions that are supposed
[1:36:13] to be reported to the collision reporting centre. And I
[1:36:17] wouldn't be able to just pair that down myself to
[1:36:19] say certain, even a less, um, grouping of collisions to
[1:36:26] reduce that to say we could only do this piece
[1:36:28] there. Um, the dispatchers are taught and it's, uh, you
[1:36:31] know, a standard operating policy procedure they have at the
[1:36:34] comm centre when they receive the call to whether they
[1:36:37] send it to a CRC or they dispatch a frontline
[1:36:40] member to attend the collision. Deborah. Through
[1:36:50] the chair. Um, I haven't used the Haldimen collision centre.
[1:36:54] Thankfully. I haven't needed to. But I have used the
[1:36:57] one in Windsor with a very minor incident of, uh,
[1:37:03] our corner of our bumper being just clipped while the
[1:37:06] car was parked and someone was sitting in it. And
[1:37:09] they actually sent police officers to investigate it, which I
[1:37:15] found very interesting. And then they said, Oh, it's a
[1:37:19] minor incident and no one was hurt. Go to the
[1:37:22] collision centre. Well, turns out they ripped all the sensors
[1:37:26] off the front bumper of the car and 13, 000
[1:37:29] dollars later. So trying to decide what the cost of
[1:37:34] a repair is and trying to decide unless it's, you
[1:37:38] know, it may look minor. But if you have two
[1:37:40] people, you're going to have two different stories. I don't
[1:37:42] know how the collision centre can, you know, make a
[1:37:45] report that's going to actually give the insurance company, you
[1:37:48] know, justification for who's going to pay for it or
[1:37:51] who's responsible. So I think, you know, getting a hybrid
[1:37:55] solution, better solution is a good idea because I don't
[1:37:58] see the collision centres as being the answer to this
[1:38:01] issue. Andy. Thanks, Chair. Through you, yeah, I believe our
[1:38:07] collision reporting centre, we obviously, it's been done for many
[1:38:09] years in the highway safety division, which is throughout the
[1:38:12] GTA, um, where that's primarily our response is just to,
[1:38:16] uh, the highways through those locations. And I think the
[1:38:20] CRC has done very well there. Um, I think the
[1:38:23] rollout to some of the, um, municipal locations within the
[1:38:27] OPP has, you know, the challenges and it's kind of
[1:38:31] different every way. I think the OPP may even be
[1:38:34] doing a review on the collision reporting centre system and
[1:38:37] the way it's, it's rolled out. Um, I know if
[1:38:40] you go to several municipal services, um, municipal policing services,
[1:38:45] a lot of the times they have a third party
[1:38:47] company that they hire in order to conduct all collisions
[1:38:51] at the collision reporting centre. Okay. Member McCaskill.
[1:39:03] Through the chair. I got dinged in a parking lot.
[1:39:06] A local major major store. And I wasn't even there.
[1:39:09] And I did some damage to the car. And you
[1:39:12] look at a car now it's 10 grand. I don't
[1:39:13] care what you drive. Unless it's a wheelbarrow. I phoned
[1:39:17] the OPP locally and I got a report number. And
[1:39:21] gave that to my insurance company the way we went.
[1:39:24] What I find disturbing is that insurance companies are now
[1:39:30] using, uh, publicly funded police force. To enforce things that
[1:39:36] they should be doing. If iPhone, my insurance guy and
[1:39:39] say, I bet on an accident, I understand that if
[1:39:42] I should phone the police, if it's of some nature.
[1:39:46] But if not, my insurance people should send someone to
[1:39:52] see what's going on. It's sort of like phoning a
[1:39:54] major TV company and saying it's not working. You now
[1:39:59] spend the next three hours after being on the phone
[1:40:01] for three hours going through the technical terms with them
[1:40:05] to fix your own TV. In other words, they don't
[1:40:08] want to pay for anything. So in a way, the
[1:40:12] police force is being utilised to do a service for
[1:40:17] insurance companies. And I think that should be addressed. Uh,
[1:40:20] I don't know how to do that. I was a
[1:40:22] one person, but through counsel or through police hierarchy across
[1:40:29] to insurance hierarchy, perhaps that should be bridged because that
[1:40:32] puts a lot of time and effort on police services.
[1:40:36] They could be used to answering calls. Supplied by community
[1:40:42] watch people. Thank you. Thank you, Stuart. Yeah. Thank you.
[1:40:49] Um, and through you, Chair. In response to that, a
[1:40:52] little bit of, like we have a duty under the
[1:40:55] highway traffic act to report collisions. And the damage threshold
[1:41:01] years ago was, I think 2000 dollars. And it's, I
[1:41:05] can't recall what year, a few years ago at least,
[1:41:08] uh, it's been increased to 5, 000 dollars so that
[1:41:10] if somebody's involved in a minor collision, um, where the
[1:41:14] injury and damage appears to be under 5, 000 dollars,
[1:41:21] if the members are good and exchange their information, they
[1:41:24] can just go through their insurance companies at that point.
[1:41:27] But it's that part of determining the 5, 000 dollar
[1:41:30] limit and whether that happens after the fact that the
[1:41:35] bit of a time delay there. Thank you. Member Shaw.
[1:41:41] Just so I understand a bit through you, Chair. Understand
[1:41:45] a little bit better. So are you hoping that the
[1:41:48] collision reporting centre is going to stop? And what would
[1:41:52] it look like if that did. Yeah. We're, we're looking
[1:41:58] at discontinuing it based on, uh, the analyst and the
[1:42:04] information that we've taken a look at. I feel that,
[1:42:07] um. The investigative excellence for some of the collisions that
[1:42:11] we're seeing come through the collision reporting centre, it would
[1:42:14] be, um, done a lot better. Obviously the biggest concern
[1:42:17] from command is that if we discontinue this, we are
[1:42:21] putting, as you indicated, how would it be handled? It
[1:42:23] would be handled by frontline officers. So we would be
[1:42:26] putting, um, that workload back on the front line. And
[1:42:31] when we did analysis of that, it worked out to
[1:42:34] approximately, um, 10 extra calls per year per officer. So
[1:42:41] a little bit less than one a month. Which we
[1:42:44] believe is doable. So like I said, this is all,
[1:42:47] the final decision made on this. This is something we're
[1:42:50] just exploring. Uh, we have an upcoming management meeting with
[1:42:54] our noncommittees are our surgeons, and, uh, the discussion, um,
[1:43:00] that meeting as well in regards to this. Okay. Anything
[1:43:07] further. Okay. All right. Oh, member miracle. To be honest.
[1:43:17] I think a lot of the collision reporting is just
[1:43:21] to get that number. To call your insurance, like, especially
[1:43:25] those minor ones like me hitting a turkey. Well, if
[1:43:27] I want to go through insurance, I need that police
[1:43:29] report number. Nothing's under 5, 000 dollars anymore because even
[1:43:35] though I have a little crack, this big in my
[1:43:38] frame, they're going to have to take the whole part.
[1:43:40] I haven't went through because insurance said, Oh, it will
[1:43:43] probably jack your price up because you hit turkey. I
[1:43:45] said, no, jump down and hit me. But that's a
[1:43:48] whole, the whole other thing is. If there could be
[1:43:50] a way maybe not through the police, but through the
[1:43:53] insurance, Lake Stewart said, police are not doing insurance's job.
[1:43:58] Why can't we call insurance and say, Hey, this just
[1:44:01] happened. Why do I need a police number? Take picture,
[1:44:05] send it in, whatever. Instead of having to involve the
[1:44:07] police for those minor details. Okay. Good discussion on it.
[1:44:14] Good thoughts, too. Okay. So you'll keep a surprise as
[1:44:20] to how this ends up floating out again, because as
[1:44:24] the, uh, Inspector has said, he may not even be
[1:44:27] able to, uh, to do this depending on what the
[1:44:32] higher ups have to, have to say. But we thought
[1:44:36] you should be aware that this at least is in
[1:44:39] the, uh, in the works. Community petition regarding safety, um,
[1:44:47] this is in the, in the Caledonia area. You have
[1:44:52] a copy of the, of the letter that was a
[1:44:54] preamble to the petition that was, uh, circulated here. I
[1:44:59] don't know if you have any comments, uh, Inspector. You
[1:45:03] just. Thank you, Chair. And through you, I do. Um,
[1:45:08] obviously I appreciate the residents bringing forward, um, the concerns
[1:45:13] in the Avalon subdivision in Caledonia. Uh, the petition was
[1:45:17] constructed inappropriately focused on prevention and partnership when I read
[1:45:20] over it. Although I've not had our analysts to a
[1:45:25] comprehensive review of incidents in there. And as you saw,
[1:45:29] I noted in the June and July months. We did
[1:45:32] see a decrease in theft under five, uh, calls for
[1:45:41] service. I know the citizen did not lie in exactly
[1:45:47] the concerns, but we have already noticed prior to receiving
[1:45:49] this that there was an increase in vehicle, um, thefts,
[1:45:53] not too many of those, but more so there's from
[1:45:55] vehicles. Um, so just throw for some context for the
[1:46:00] board for this. I know our analysts, they've been working
[1:46:02] with the Hamilton Police Services, um, and four youth were
[1:46:06] arrested in a stolen truck that was stolen from Avalon.
[1:46:10] So we are trying to use the information now that
[1:46:12] we're getting from Halleton Police to try to tie that
[1:46:15] to any of the incidents in our location and hopefully,
[1:46:18] um, some charges and clearing off incense might be pending
[1:46:21] in relation to that. And before receiving the petition actually,
[1:46:27] um, and becoming aware through, we have Tuesday morning meetings
[1:46:30] to discuss things in the, uh, in our Detachment. And
[1:46:34] that was kind of one of the topics that came
[1:46:35] up. And I said, okay, let's put something together. Um,
[1:46:39] I've made a request of our auxiliary liaison officers to
[1:46:43] engage our auxiliary unit. And it's called the door -
[1:46:48] to - door program. So that's where, um, our auxiliary
[1:46:51] members, they will take out, uh, we've got some printed
[1:46:54] placards. Um, they talk about, uh, lock at her lose
[1:46:57] it, operations safeguard, community watch, and, uh, cam safe. Um,
[1:47:04] so anyways, they'll go out and they'll kind of flood
[1:47:06] that area of a community that we had some hotspots
[1:47:09] in, making sure people are aware. I know a lot
[1:47:12] of times now on social media, people have, uh, social
[1:47:14] media groups, they're part of and they see some of
[1:47:16] that information. But this is to make sure they report
[1:47:19] it to us so that we have an awareness for,
[1:47:22] for our analytics. So we know where to hit, um,
[1:47:26] to head to focus our enforcement efforts on. But they're,
[1:47:31] the plan is coming. I don't think they're getting to
[1:47:32] it this week. It might be next week. So Caledonia
[1:47:36] residents within Avalon subdivision are going to see that. Um,
[1:47:39] but we also noticed there was a bit of a
[1:47:41] spike in Hagersville as well. Um, and we're going to
[1:47:45] be door to door program will be coordinated in that
[1:47:48] area a little bit later time as well. Hopefully you'll
[1:47:51] see a reduction in, uh, in the, in these incidents,
[1:47:56] as I said, Hamilton police has made a rest of
[1:48:00] four. Four young persons in that one. I'm not sure
[1:48:02] if they had their own media release out on that.
[1:48:08] Yeah. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Um, member McKeen. I
[1:48:15] noticed in the email that it says avalon slash Caledonia.
[1:48:19] I just wondered because you said there's been a spike
[1:48:22] in Hagersville and then other incidents in Hamilton. Is there,
[1:48:28] uh, is there a hot spot area? Like is Caledonia
[1:48:31] divided between standard Caledonia and Avalon? Like, is there a
[1:48:36] dividing line that we know of that needs more attention?
[1:48:42] Or is it all just considered as one, one city
[1:48:45] basically. Thank you. Through your chair. Um, no, definitely it's
[1:48:50] been more when the analyst was indicating to me there's
[1:48:54] definitely a focus. Um, and I won't even say Avalon
[1:48:57] as a whole, but parts of Avalon that were, you
[1:49:01] know, targeted by the offenders. So we'll be hitting that
[1:49:04] area. Um, you know, our unit right now, I think
[1:49:09] has 10 members. They all can't get out of the
[1:49:11] same point in time. So in order to do focus
[1:49:14] like this, we really got to rely on the analytics
[1:49:16] as to the area that it was occurring in, in
[1:49:18] order to maximize that efficiency. Um, but definitely it's one
[1:49:23] of those ones we did notice there was a spike
[1:49:25] as well. In Hagersville and that's why I say we're
[1:49:27] going to hit the area where that was concentrated in
[1:49:31] Hegersville at a little bit later date. Anything further. All
[1:49:38] right. Thank you very. Much. Bylaws. No bylaws listed.
[1:49:48] Announcements. No.
[1:49:59] Chair. Tomorrow night. Friday night at Nani Coke. There's a
[1:50:07] from six until ten, 6 p. m. until 10 p.
[1:50:09] m. There's a bit of a gathering of live music.
[1:50:13] 10 bucks, some food will be served. And I'm not
[1:50:17] sure about alcohol. I was on a later rival to
[1:50:19] this. So I thought I'd mention it here. Hopefully it'll
[1:50:23] reach some years. And the main thrust of all this
[1:50:26] is that the town hall is in, uh, has been
[1:50:33] let go, shall we say for a number of years.
[1:50:36] And it's my understanding. I haven't auditor yet to see
[1:50:38] what the needs are. That it, uh, it would appreciate
[1:50:43] some needed funding. So this is the beginning and the
[1:50:46] wheat out of Nanico to commence that process by a
[1:50:49] bunch of volunteers. And, uh, so if you can tomorrow
[1:50:53] night at Nani Coke, uh, stop by listen to some
[1:50:57] music and bring a chair, by the way, there's no
[1:51:01] seeding original. I just want to sit down on the,
[1:51:03] on the grass. So please, uh, please attend and support
[1:51:06] the town of Ninecook. Much appreciate. Thank you. Thank you,
[1:51:10] Stuart. Anyone else. Session.
[1:51:23] We're at the adjournment. Mover in a seconder. Uh, that
[1:51:26] this meeting now adjourned at 1131 a. m. Move member
[1:51:32] McKeen, second member Shaw. All those in favor. Opposed that
[1:51:39] is carried. Thank you very much for your involvement and
[1:51:43] your participation, uh, this morning. Have a good rest of
[1:51:47] the summer. Meeting adjourned.