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[2:49] - Okay, I'd like to call the February 19th Huff Moon
[2:52] Township Board of Supervisors meeting to order all rise
[2:55] for the Pledge Allegiance.
[2:58] Pledge Allegiance to the flag
[3:00] of the United States of America,
[3:03] and to the Republic for which it stands,
[3:05] one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
[3:09] and justice for
[3:14] all.
[3:15] I will now open public comments
[3:18] for anything not on the agenda.
[3:21] Yes,
[3:26] - Cliff Neal, and I'm here on behalf of Port Matilda EMS.
[3:30] I would like to put out to the community a reminder
[3:32] that we're dependent upon your memberships
[3:35] to help keep us running
[3:37] and we're still running around 20%
[3:39] of people returning those memberships.
[3:41] So your support would be great. Very much appreciated.
[3:44] And I'm also here to answer any questions
[3:46] that you might have for Port Matilda EMS. Yes sir. Do we
[3:50] - Use a third party for that activity
[3:53] - For billing for for memberships? Yes, we do.
[3:57] - So they should know who has responded and who has not.
[4:01] - Yes. - Why wouldn't we have an activity,
[4:04] maybe a little group effort here in the communities
[4:07] to follow up with some of those folks
[4:09] that have not responded
[4:10] to see if we can't rattle the tree a little bit?
[4:13] - Well, honestly, I've done that on social media
[4:18] and that's also one
[4:19] of the reasons I'm sitting at this table right now
[4:21] is to reach out.
[4:23] I think there's a percentage of people
[4:25] that probably will not contribute towards a membership.
[4:29] Oh, sure. And just, just so you'll know, Bruce,
[4:32] in this area, we are doing better than most
[4:34] every other EMS service.
[4:36] The average is about 13 to 14% return on membership.
[4:41] Now the, the thing that people may not be aware
[4:43] of is membership has a lot of benefits.
[4:45] Number one, if you are covered for a emergency call,
[4:50] we take your membership and insurance
[4:52] and that's all you're ever gonna see for a bill.
[4:54] If there's additional fees, they're not gonna be sent
[4:57] to the person that's a member.
[4:59] And we also offer classes, first Aid CPR, things like
[5:03] that throughout the year that are also free to members.
[5:07] So there's benefits in addition
[5:09] to helping us stay afloat. Alright. So
[5:13] - Should the EMS consider maybe that we wanted
[5:17] to retry something like I just
[5:19] suggested, I'd be willing to help.
[5:21] You know,
[5:22] - Honestly, I, I'd be willing to try anything,
[5:24] but I, I can, I've been doing this a very long time.
[5:28] Okay. And I can tell you that
[5:31] the success rate on memberships for some reason is
[5:35] not nearly as high as I think it might be.
[5:39] But that's, that's an individual decision.
[5:42] But I mean, you, you buy a family membership,
[5:44] it covers everybody in your house basically. For
[5:48] - Those of us who are members, we know the benefits.
[5:51] So one other question I had related Yes.
[5:55] I just heard on the, the news this week that
[5:58] both the fire company
[5:59] and E em EMS received an $18,000 grant.
[6:04] I assume that's a 50 50 split there.
[6:06] Was that something you were expecting or was
[6:08] - It something we applied for?
[6:10] It's, it's the fire commissioner's a grant
[6:13] and for EMS it's 15,015 EMS.
[6:16] Typically it's, it's a bit less for EMS than fire,
[6:21] but anything is welcome.
[6:23] Okay. And now that's when we, we,
[6:26] if there's a grant out there,
[6:27] our grant writer Susan person is gifted in making things
[6:31] happen and getting the applications in
[6:33] and making sure they get followed up on.
[6:35] - So you said that was 15 for the EMS? Yes.
[6:37] Was that in your budget for the year?
[6:41] - No, we can't budget it 'cause we don't know if we're gonna
[6:42] get it for certain but Got it.
[6:44] Alright. But it will, it will be included I think
[6:46] as the budget goes forward now
[6:48] and you see the reports that come out from the board
[6:51] of directors fact sheet that we put out.
[6:53] Also the municipality should be getting that. I think
[6:57] - I haven't.
[6:59] - Okay. I, again, I put that out to social media.
[7:01] I'm just waiting for a correction.
[7:02] We had on the most recent one to put it out to
[7:06] to social media sites, but that we can't budget that in
[7:11] 'cause it's not guaranteed
[7:12] until we physically get there. No, I'm
[7:14] - Just, okay, thank you.
[7:16] - Does that grant have restrictions on it?
[7:19] - They all have restrictions
[7:21] that you can't use them to pay staff.
[7:23] Okay. And unfortunately that's for us,
[7:26] that's the biggest hardship for EMS agencies is
[7:30] you can't get volunteers anymore.
[7:33] If you can, it's a rarity.
[7:35] And to pay staffing, they have
[7:37] to be physically sitting at the station if they're gonna
[7:40] respond within minutes to get to a heart attack or a stroke
[7:44] or even heavy bleeding.
[7:45] Something that requires responding in a very timely fashion.
[7:50] And none of the grants that we get allow us
[7:53] to pay salary with it.
[7:56] So I wish there was a way to do that.
[7:58] 'cause that would make life a lot better
[8:00] for all the EMS agencies across the, is
[8:02] - One of your busy, biggest expenses.
[8:04] So
[8:06] - It's why most places go under most of the smaller
[8:09] EMS services that have collapsed by financially
[8:12] and there's a lot of them in Pennsylvania
[8:15] in the last two or three years.
[8:17] It's because they can't get staffing.
[8:21] - And if I can, I know I've, we've talked about this before
[8:24] and I know I brought it up at this meeting,
[8:26] but just to help Bruce along
[8:27] 'cause you were asking about EMS and,
[8:30] and insurance payments and stuff like that.
[8:33] One thing to know that even if you are a member,
[8:35] and correct me if I'm wrong on any of this cliff,
[8:38] but if you are a member of the EMS
[8:39] and you need EMS services, you will not get a bill.
[8:42] They may bill your insurance, right? Yeah.
[8:44] Your insurance will send a reimbursement check to you,
[8:49] the person has to go and not going to the EMS.
[8:52] So it's upon individual's good faith that they've returned
[8:56] that check to the emergency services
[8:59] and that's a legislative problem.
[9:02] Am I correct in terms of
[9:03] that check from insurance not going directly
[9:05] to the emergency services, going to
[9:08] the insurance holder? That's
[9:10] - True with some, but not all insurers.
[9:12] It depends how the policy is set up.
[9:15] - Yeah. Yeah. So in some cases individuals are getting paid
[9:19] for that insurance run to the, in the ambulance
[9:23] and the money's not going to the EMS.
[9:25] - So unfortunately that's not uncommon. So yes.
[9:28] - Yes. So - Any other questions?
[9:33] - I, I believe Ron might have a question. Oh, okay.
[9:37] - Yes. Ron. Point those out - For me.
[9:40] - Is Ron and Lauren on?
[9:42] - Yes, I did have my hand up. Yes sir.
[9:45] It is not all of the insurance companies that send
[9:49] reimbursement checks to the patient.
[9:51] Some of them do send them direct to DMS
[9:54] or to whoever the services.
[9:58] I just wanted to point that out.
[9:59] - Yes, cliff did clarify that.
[10:05] - Any other questions?
[10:07] I'm not used to looking at the board,
[10:09] but I will scan over there now.
[10:11] Yeah, have to do too. I don't,
[10:13] - I do have another question if I can ask.
[10:16] - Certainly for me. - Can I ask a question?
[10:19] - Oh, of course. Yes. - Okay. What was it?
[10:27] How is your, your transport van operation?
[10:33] - It's a, it's actually making some
[10:35] significant improvements lately.
[10:37] So we are working, I'm not gonna name the facility,
[10:41] but we're working with a facility that like our service
[10:44] and they actually have contacted Jack Bonsal,
[10:48] the EMS captain to potentially get a contract.
[10:52] And we've actually picked up a number of runs.
[10:55] I was just at the station today talking to the head
[10:59] of the van service and also Jack.
[11:05] - Thank you. - Certainly.
[11:09] Other questions of any time?
[11:12] - No, thank - You. Okay. Thank you Lisa.
[11:16] - Anyone else from the public? No. Anybody online? Amy.
[11:22] Okay, great. Thank you.
[11:24] We'll close public comments and we will move on to reports.
[11:29] We'll start with authorities, boards
[11:30] and commissions reports.
[11:32] And first one up is the Open Space board.
[11:36] Last night's meeting, Mr.
[11:38] Lad came and reviewed the forecasting spreadsheet, explained
[11:42] how input data was determined and presented five, 10
[11:46] and 15 year forecast models as well as a model that showed
[11:51] what things would look like if we didn't,
[11:53] if there were no permanent Preservation pursued.
[11:57] The board determined
[11:59] that the 10 year forecast scenario was the most logical
[12:01] to use as our baseline for forecasting as we discussed
[12:06] potential properties for, for Preservation.
[12:10] And that was the main focus.
[12:11] We talked a little bit about our strategy
[12:14] and that we would work on that more
[12:15] for next month for going into the year.
[12:16] And, and then we just reviewed
[12:19] where properties were in the pipeline and channel.
[12:23] So that was it. Planning Commission.
[12:30] Amy, do you have anything for that?
[12:31] Other than what's I don't, I don't have anything
[12:33] - To add to what's there, - To what's been reported.
[12:36] Okay, thank you. And COG
[12:39] and regional committee's reports executive committee
[12:43] was just on Tuesday,
[12:45] following items were approved to be included.
[12:48] The and the February general form meeting, proclamation
[12:52] of black history month purchase of a V plow
[12:55] for the Alpha Fire Company
[12:57] and for the March general form meeting,
[12:58] they approved sending to
[13:00] or sending to general form the Meek Lane pump station
[13:04] special study and its recommendation for alternative D
[13:08] following the 30 day Public Comment period.
[13:11] So if it is approved, it will then come
[13:13] to the municipalities for approval.
[13:17] And that was the highlights of the executive committee.
[13:24] Anything Tammy, we'll just go down through.
[13:27] Tammy, do you have anything on your committees?
[13:29] - Yeah, finance, I actually wasn't able to be there.
[13:31] Patti was out of town.
[13:33] I did touch base with the committee prior to the meeting.
[13:36] Pretty much spent, was spending the meeting wrapping up some
[13:39] of the fund balance policies that they've been working on.
[13:41] So that can get to the general forum.
[13:45] And Upper Bald Eagle COG was last, what, two weeks ago now?
[13:50] I guess. Pretty quick meeting.
[13:53] Nothing, I mean we're, you know, obviously it's beginning
[13:56] of the year for budget wise, port UL EMS,
[14:01] cliff indicated not Cliff,
[14:04] but Mark indicated that you guys are pretty tight on staff,
[14:08] down on staff, but doing your best.
[14:10] So I know that's tough
[14:12] and appreciate you guys doing your best on that.
[14:16] I also wanna make note that I learned
[14:19] after our January Upper Bald Eagle COG meeting
[14:22] that it was a joint effort on behalf of our EMS
[14:26] and our fire company,
[14:27] that they saved a life over the New Years.
[14:30] So I, that is very important to make sure
[14:34] that you guys get the recognition
[14:35] and that's why we have your emergency services
[14:38] is to save those lives.
[14:39] So we appreciate that. And please extend that depreciation
[14:42] to the EMS port till the fire company banquet
[14:47] is gonna be April 18th.
[14:49] And I think they're looking to recognize their top
[14:52] volunteers from each municipality.
[14:54] Again,
[14:57] - Is that a public event, the banquet
[14:59] or is it just internal to
[15:01] - I think it's for fire company members.
[15:04] I don't, I'd have to find out.
[15:05] I'd have to ask if it's, I'm not sure. Alright.
[15:07] I don't know the answer. We have plenty
[15:08] - Of time to find out. Yeah,
[15:09] - Yeah.
[15:10] So, but yeah, April 18th on that.
[15:13] And really no discussion on the funding formula.
[15:16] We're waiting on townships to
[15:19] have their discussions and vote.
[15:21] The Borough and Houston did indicate that they did meet
[15:24] and did vote to approve the funding formula.
[15:26] So hopefully in the next couple months it'll come back to
[15:31] the COG agenda.
[15:34] And I think that's my committees.
[15:36] That's it. Bruce
[15:40] - Public Safety Committee met on the 10th.
[15:43] Three points of interest, Walt Schneider,
[15:46] the CR Codes director,
[15:49] basically nominated three candidates
[15:51] who are currently members of the Building
[15:53] and Housing Board of Appeals that are up for reelection.
[15:57] All three were carried forward to be elected. Again.
[16:01] That'll be done in the COG general forum.
[16:04] Patti did mention the V plow, the dollar amount on
[16:07] that was some $7,575 from Valley truck
[16:12] that I guess is gonna move forward.
[16:16] We don't vote on that. By the way.
[16:18] Halfmoon and Harris don't vote on those kinds of things
[16:20] because we're not covered by that group.
[16:23] There was also a rather lengthy discussion
[16:25] regarding Penn State's winter weekend, which included the
[16:30] outdoor hockey game with Michigan State.
[16:33] 54,000 fans attended there.
[16:36] A lot of lessons learned, I guess
[16:37] because there were so many concurrent activities around town
[16:40] and in on campus.
[16:42] Notably the parking, apparently things went very well in
[16:45] terms of shuttling folks from paved parking lots all over
[16:48] the, the, the region there.
[16:52] This is the, the outdoor activity at Beaver Stadium.
[16:56] That's not the right term anymore.
[16:58] I'm sorry I can't remember the real name.
[16:59] Anyway, all across the Big 10, this is what's happening now.
[17:05] So we're entering a new paradigm in terms of how
[17:08] non-football events are being scheduled there.
[17:10] So they're planning to benchmark the best practices.
[17:14] So that was that.
[17:17] I also attended the Centre County MPO,
[17:21] Metro Metropolitan Planning Organization
[17:23] Technical Committee.
[17:25] This is a very, very complex group and,
[17:28] and they attend to an awful lot of business.
[17:31] So I asked the public to bear with me
[17:32] as I get up to speed on this.
[17:35] The meeting was nearly two hours long.
[17:38] I guess the highlights there, there was a,
[17:40] a Cass Consent Agenda approved, which included a bunch
[17:44] of reports and of course the
[17:45] minutes from the previous meeting.
[17:47] Kevin James, the project manager, SCAC project manager,
[17:51] provided an update on the connector project.
[17:53] That's of great interest.
[17:54] I guess countywide obviously since we're all impacted by
[17:57] that two lane 3 22 situation where it stands right now.
[18:03] The plan is that final draft.
[18:05] I'll have a 30 day Public Comment through April and May.
[18:09] There's also a transit technical, I'm sorry,
[18:15] a transit piece to that for about 36 million.
[18:18] The overall connector project's about 250 million
[18:20] spanning a four year plan.
[18:22] Mr. Sailor presented the annual committee work plan status.
[18:26] This is all the other projects that are happening.
[18:29] It's based on the original 2023 strategic plan,
[18:32] which gets rolled every two years.
[18:36] I, it was basically just a lot of updates there.
[18:39] Marcel Hoffman from the staff gave a number
[18:41] of other updates on projects.
[18:43] About $11 million worth of budget there.
[18:47] 1.6 million has been awarded grants.
[18:50] And 9.1 more pending.
[18:53] These are planning and implement implementation support,
[18:56] safety planning, resilience planning,
[18:57] safety technology implementation.
[19:02] There was a vote on, it's a unanimous vote.
[19:05] Eight by the way. 18 voting members on this committee.
[19:08] Unanimous vote for an engineering study
[19:11] for the top of the mountain.
[19:12] The port mountaintop Route 3 22.
[19:15] There's a pull off for trucks being proposed there.
[19:18] Like this is on the downhill sign.
[19:19] So before those trucks come roaring down into Port Matilda,
[19:22] they won't have a pull off their mandatory thing I guess.
[19:25] So they know like they have on Seven Mountain.
[19:28] Yes, I, well I assume that's the case similar to that.
[19:30] Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
[19:32] So there's a $360,000 we proceed,
[19:35] we approve the engineering study at 360,000.
[19:39] Also very lengthy committee discussion.
[19:41] Discussion regarding proposal
[19:42] to restructure the whole technical committee,
[19:45] which would reduce the number
[19:46] of voting members anywhere down to anywhere from
[19:49] between six and 11.
[19:51] I don't fully understand all those workings yet.
[19:53] Couple announcements of note, there were many.
[19:58] The staff are once again planning
[19:59] to offer an updated session of MPO 1 0 1 to new members,
[20:04] partner agency staffs, other regional decision makers,
[20:07] interested parties and such.
[20:09] This is slated for Monday, March 16th.
[20:12] I'll try to attend that one.
[20:14] It's really on, focused on the MPO basics,
[20:17] the organizational history and structure.
[20:20] What are the federally required processes
[20:22] and documents and so forth.
[20:24] Also of note, on Monday, the 30th of March,
[20:26] the committee will be hosting its first ever transportation
[20:29] grant workshop.
[20:31] It will cover what makes a, an application competitive, how
[20:34] to align projects with plans
[20:36] and data build realistic project, the scope
[20:40] and budget and so forth.
[20:42] Registration's required for that.
[20:43] I haven't checked my calendar yet,
[20:44] but I'll try to attend that one as well. Sorry for
[20:46] - The length that happened.
[20:47] Thank you.
[20:53] Let's see. Lauren, do you have any updates
[20:56] other than what's in your reports?
[21:00] - I do. I attended the February 6th Lucy meeting
[21:05] and kind of redundant, HRG
[21:09] engineering did present the Meeks Lane pump station upgrade,
[21:12] which you've me mentioned.
[21:14] And there was that choice that they made.
[21:17] And it was primarily to limited
[21:22] to one pump station using gravity flow based connectors
[21:27] routes to minimize the need for backup infrastructure.
[21:30] On that project, we have Neil
[21:33] Sullivan from Penn State University provide a presentation
[21:36] on a proposed 60 acre expansion
[21:39] to the A RL at PSU Innovation Park.
[21:43] And this proposal is asking
[21:44] for regional growth boundary extension
[21:46] with UAJA providing sewer service
[21:50] to accommodate future growth
[21:51] and development at Innovation Park.
[21:54] A DRI report was presented
[21:56] and the Lucy members were asked for comments.
[22:00] It was noted that the university could not find adequate
[22:04] acreage, continuous acreage within the existing growth
[22:07] boundary to meet their needs.
[22:09] The committee postponed making the motion
[22:12] to forward a recommendation for this project's DRI
[22:15] to the general Forum pending more specific information on
[22:18] why the university couldn't accomplish its goals within the
[22:22] existing growth boundaries.
[22:25] The committee will review additional information
[22:28] at our meeting in March.
[22:30] The last topic was a quick review
[22:32] of the Centre Region Sustainability trends
[22:35] included were climate trends, weather related power outages,
[22:38] energy consumption patterns, energy sources,
[22:42] and renewable energy development.
[22:45] And just a final note, there was a review
[22:47] of the lands within the regional growth growth boundary
[22:51] and the total lands available currently is 3,321 acres
[22:55] with 1,723 acres already approved for development,
[23:00] allowing for a potential of 7,046 units.
[23:04] There's 1,598 acres of vacant land available, allowing
[23:09] for an additional 7,300 units.
[23:11] And there's 63.6 acres
[23:14] for non-residential use is available
[23:17] yet within the growth boundary.
[23:19] And that sums that one up.
[23:23] I can get back to Spring
[23:28] Creek Water shed.
[23:32] That was a reorganization meeting.
[23:35] They did a nice presentation
[23:37] to three new members on that board.
[23:42] The cleanup last year was really effective.
[23:44] They listed a number of
[23:49] thousands of pounds of trash
[23:50] that was picked up in that project.
[23:55] The new project for 2026 is Two Deck Park
[23:58] is got a regenerative storm water project
[24:01] that fishing boat is working on providing a grant as well
[24:05] as there's some other contributors to that project.
[24:08] And apparently there's a stream that runs through the park
[24:10] that collects water currently and it's pretty well run down
[24:13] and dilapidated and it's causing water
[24:15] to go places they don't want it to.
[24:17] So they're gonna start possibly in July of cleaning up
[24:22] that stream bed, putting in water diversions
[24:24] or water calming control tools
[24:28] and ease storm water impacts for that runout area
[24:34] 4 0 2 of 26.
[24:38] So about April 2nd is the third to annual watershed event.
[24:42] And on the 18th of April is the planned watershed cleanup
[24:48] day at 8:00 AM to 12:00 PM
[24:51] and our next meeting is the
[24:53] 18th of March. That's all I have.
[24:56] - Okay, thank you. And we just have anything from the,
[25:01] I think Ron has Oh, oh, okay.
[25:03] I was just gonna check with Karen
[25:04] yet on the c board of directors.
[25:06] Okay. Ron, did you have a question on,
[25:10] - I did, I had a question with regard to,
[25:12] I heard it mentioned twice regard
[25:14] to the Meets Lane pumping station that has to do with UAA.
[25:20] Did they, in any of those discussions,
[25:22] did they mention anything about increasing capacity
[25:30] - In terms of including Halfmoon Township
[25:33] or potential future growth in the Township?
[25:35] - Yeah, that's, yeah, we had this discussion in 2024
[25:39] and UAJ at that time basically pulled any plans to increase
[25:44] the capacity of that station.
[25:47] So I'm just wondering if, if they have changed their minds
[25:51] or if any, any change has occurred with regard to that.
[25:54] - No, the, the current plan for the Meeks Lane
[25:58] upgrade does not include any growth
[26:01] that may happen at Halfmoon Township.
[26:04] - Okay. Thank you. - That was pointed out.
[26:06] - Thank you. - You're welcome. Okay.
[26:10] - Do we have anything for the CA board of directors?
[26:16] Is that so, Karen? Okay.
[26:21] - No, I, I didn't make the January meeting so
[26:25] there isn't anything until the next meeting.
[26:27] - Great. Okay. Thank you Karen.
[26:29] - Sure. - All right.
[26:30] And now we have staff reports
[26:34] and we have written reports with a new structure
[26:38] and content, which I think will
[26:40] provide more overall information about what's going going on
[26:43] with, with staff.
[26:45] And Amy, you have the secretary report.
[26:50] Is there anything you wanna highlight on that?
[26:55] There's nothing, no,
[26:56] unless somebody, anybody had a question.
[26:58] Okay. So we had different things that went on in the office
[27:01] for the last month.
[27:03] Great, appreciate that.
[27:06] And treasurer report. Brett,
[27:11] - Nothing of real importance.
[27:12] It's your typical year end
[27:14] W twos 10 90 nines getting ready for the new tax season.
[27:17] - Okay, thanks.
[27:19] And I know you provided a lot of data on there too with
[27:22] what was going on with the budgets
[27:23] and things so appreciated.
[27:25] And we have our Roadmaster report.
[27:28] - I didn't have anything to add as far as from
[27:31] what was written, but certainly
[27:33] happy to answer any questions.
[27:35] - Okay. If there's no, we just appreciate all the work you
[27:38] and your staff did with all the snow that came down.
[27:43] - We'll see what we continue to get.
[27:44] So thank you. Finish out the winter.
[27:46] - Yeah, and I appreciate the change in everybody's reports.
[27:48] They're more concise, more thorough, more information.
[27:52] I really appreciate that. Thank you. Well,
[27:56] - Alright, so we will move on to the Consent Agenda.
[28:01] We have three items on the Consent Agenda this month.
[28:03] One is the approval of minutes, February bills list,
[28:06] and the appointment of Dan Truax
[28:08] as a seasonal Public Works laborer is,
[28:13] does anyone want to pull any of those
[28:16] - Mad chair?
[28:17] I would like to pull CA three from the Consent Agenda.
[28:22] - Okay. Do we vote on that or do, is it just happen?
[28:30] - I think, will we vote on the rest
[28:31] of the Consent Agenda then?
[28:33] - Yeah, I guess we vote on the re rest
[28:35] and then we'll vote on this one separate.
[28:36] That's what you're looking for, correct, Ron?
[28:38] - Yes. Okay. Yeah, I want discussion on it.
[28:41] - Okay, that's fine. Okay.
[28:45] So we will, does somebody wanna make a motion eliminating
[28:48] ca three when you read it?
[28:51] - I move that the board of Supervisors approve items CA one
[28:54] and CA two as listed on the February 19th, 2026
[28:58] Consent Agenda.
[29:01] - I'll second that. - I'll
[29:03] - Second.
[29:04] Okay. Okay. Thank you. Are there any comments?
[29:10] Okay, all those in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
[29:14] Any opposed? Okay, now we will look at ca three.
[29:20] Yes. And we'll go ahead and start with you Ron.
[29:24] - Well I just had a concern that I know there was
[29:28] been experience in the past that
[29:31] about the availability of Mr.
[29:32] Truax and I just wanted to make sure that this is something
[29:37] that was thoroughly vetted and,
[29:40] and that we can actually depend on this person to,
[29:45] to be available.
[29:48] That was my main concern. Alright,
[29:50] - Mr.
[29:51] Beck, would you like to respond?
[29:53] - I mean, I can't speak to his, his maximum availability
[29:58] as he does also work for Warrior's Mark Township,
[30:02] but he did express interest in, in helping us
[30:07] as much as he could.
[30:08] I'm not sure exactly what that means,
[30:12] but he did express interest in providing help to us.
[30:15] - What types of things do you generally
[30:19] - He's more helped with some traffic control
[30:22] and kind of small projects.
[30:26] - So just there hopefully available when you need
[30:31] little support on things. So not a major, he
[30:33] - Helped with our riff wrap event, things like that.
[30:35] Okay. Yeah, just as an as needed basis.
[30:39] - Okay. - Any, so I would like to ask one question.
[30:45] I, I assume then that you, you don't have
[30:48] to depend on Dan
[30:50] for your court work that you have to complete.
[30:53] - That is correct. - Okay, thank you.
[30:58] - Okay. - Any comments from anyone else? Any questions?
[31:04] Okay. Would someone like to make a motion?
[31:09] - I move to approve Consent Agenda item three.
[31:17] - Okay. And second. Second. Second. Okay. Thank you Bruce.
[31:21] All those in favor please say aye. Aye.
[31:24] - Aye. Aye. - Any opposed? Okay.
[31:29] Motion approved. We'll move on
[31:32] to number 6 20 25 0 5 house
[31:37] self storage land development plan.
[31:39] And we have a narrative there about what is being asked.
[31:44] Ms. Smith, do you have any, would you like
[31:46] to summarize or add anything?
[31:48] I, I don't have anything to add
[31:51] the I the motions are as the Planning Commission
[31:55] after their review
[31:56] and approval, that is what they recommend as well as staff.
[32:00] So we have two motions and we will do those each separately.
[32:03] So I'll take a motion
[32:06] and a second if we get it then we'll have
[32:08] open any public discussion and then have board discussion.
[32:13] So would someone like to move the first motion?
[32:16] - Sure. I move that the board
[32:18] of Supervisors approve the waiver request
[32:20] to permit consolidation of the preliminary
[32:23] and final plan submission
[32:25] and review processes into a single final plan.
[32:27] Submission and review.
[32:30] - Second. - Second. Alright.
[32:32] And I'll, oh, since we have a motion on the table,
[32:36] I'll ask if there's any Public Comment.
[32:40] Okay. None. And we'll go through.
[32:45] Does any of the, do any of the board members, we'll start
[32:48] with Bruce, any questions or comments Bruce, on this one?
[32:51] No. Tammy?
[32:53] - No. Do we have someone here that's representing? Okay.
[32:55] Yes. And I probably should have asked this last time you
[32:58] guys were in, and this, this doesn't really impact this,
[33:00] but there's gonna be obviously additional lighting included
[33:06] I assume with the addition of buildings.
[33:08] Yes. And is there plans to try to mitigate that lighting
[33:13] and you know, try not to have light pollution
[33:15] and shining down versus out type of stuff?
[33:19] - Yeah, we filed in our plan revision
[33:22] a lighting plan which shows distribution
[33:26] and guards were put up to project,
[33:28] keep the projection from leaving the site.
[33:30] - Okay. 'cause I know there's homes around there
[33:32] and you know, certainly
[33:34] - Just a question on that,
[33:35] since the use is probably very intermittent, wouldn't
[33:39] that lighting maybe be tied into motion so that Yeah.
[33:43] Yeah. So that when nobody's there lights are off then Great.
[33:47] - Okay. Are there any lights on full-time now?
[33:49] I'm trying to remember
[33:51] - On the existing development very, if there are,
[33:54] there's maybe one
[33:55] - Or two.
[33:56] Okay. And with the new,
[33:57] would there be any lights on full time
[33:59] that are not motioned?
[34:00] No. Okay. Excellent. Okay, great. Thanks.
[34:04] - Okay, anything else, Lauren? Any comments or questions?
[34:08] - No, this is a pretty standard thing through our Zoning
[34:13] hearing process to be able to combine both preliminary
[34:17] and the final plan submission reviews just
[34:20] to further things along if there weren't any major
[34:24] objections or complications
[34:27] that the Planning Commission might have found.
[34:29] So I'm good with it. Thank
[34:31] - You.
[34:32] Okay. Thank you Ron.
[34:34] - This looks to me like the next step in the process.
[34:36] Okay. So I'm Okay.
[34:38] - Alright. And if we're good.
[34:41] Okay then I will say all those in favor
[34:44] of the motion on the table please signify by saying aye.
[34:48] Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. Any opposed?
[34:52] Okay, thank you. We'll repeat the process
[34:54] with the next motion somebody would like to make that
[34:59] - I will move to that.
[35:01] The board of Supervisors approve the house self storage,
[35:03] land development plan, the following conditions, approval
[35:06] of the Erosion Soil Plan
[35:08] and N-P-D-E-S permit
[35:10] by the Centre County Conservation District
[35:12] and the resolution of all outstanding staff comments.
[35:16] - Okay, - I'll second.
[35:18] - Second. Alright. Any public comments?
[35:24] - Excuse me. - Okay.
[35:27] No public comments, any comments by the board?
[35:33] Okay. Not seeing anything. Okay.
[35:36] All those in favor please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye.
[35:39] - Aye. Aye. - Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Motion passed.
[35:44] We'll move on to number seven.
[35:48] Resolution 20 26 12 Halfmoon acres component three
[35:51] sewage planning module.
[35:54] Amy, again, do you have any additions
[35:56] or any comments on this one?
[35:58] I do not. Thank you. Okay, then I will
[36:03] entertain a motion to get this on the table for discussion.
[36:08] - I'll move that the board of Supervisors approve resolution
[36:10] 26 12 to forward the component three sewage planning module
[36:14] for submission to the Department
[36:16] of Environmental Protection for review. Second.
[36:21] - Second. Alright.
[36:23] Any public open Public Comment on this motion?
[36:28] - And again, for clarification,
[36:29] this is just a step on the process, right?
[36:31] Yes. This is not an approval
[36:33] or denial of anything,
[36:34] it's just a step in the process
[36:35] that we have to go through. Correct.
[36:36] - Okay. Any supervisor comments or questions on this one?
[36:44] No. Yes, Ron?
[36:46] - I would just like to repeat that this is,
[36:48] we're basically passing it on to
[36:53] DEP for, for their review and their process.
[36:56] It's not us approving it.
[36:58] - Correct. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else?
[37:03] Okay. Alright, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye.
[37:08] Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Motion pass.
[37:13] Thank you. Number eight, appoint representative
[37:17] to Center area Cable Consortium, CACC.
[37:22] And Amy, you have it in here.
[37:24] This is a consortium that's just convened every
[37:28] so often when they have major contract or,
[37:31] or something needs updated.
[37:32] It's not an ongoing committee, right? Correct.
[37:35] It's there for a purpose and then it ends
[37:37] and comes back a few years later and it needs to, yes.
[37:39] Okay. I know
[37:41] 'cause I, I did serve on the last one
[37:43] that was up a few years ago when they did the
[37:45] Xfinity contract.
[37:48] I would be willing to serve again,
[37:49] however, if anybody else has an interest in doing that,
[37:52] that's fine also.
[37:55] Yes, Ron?
[37:57] - Well, I'd be willing to, this is something
[38:01] that only happens periodically, is that correct?
[38:03] - Correct. - Well, I'd be willing to serve on it then.
[38:07] - Okay. Thank you. So
[38:12] we could have a motion.
[38:14] - I move to a appoint supervisor velo to serve
[38:17] as the Center area Cable Consortium representative.
[38:21] - I'll second. I'll second. - Okay. Pick one.
[38:26] - Okay. All right. All those in favor please say aye. Aye.
[38:30] Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Thank
[38:35] - You Ron.
[38:37] - Motion passes. Open Space Preservation program
[38:42] funding request for solicitor services
[38:46] last night at the meeting
[38:48] or No, we have two
[38:52] Properties currently in the queue that
[38:56] we have committed funds to partner agencies to preserve them
[39:00] and they both had taken out advanced lease payments when
[39:03] they entered the lease program.
[39:04] So we need a process
[39:06] and the proper legal documentation so
[39:09] that we can recoup those funds when the,
[39:14] when the properties close on the settlement.
[39:16] So we have to have that set up so
[39:19] that we're recouping those advanced payments at
[39:21] the time of settlement.
[39:23] So what the Open Space board is asking for is permission
[39:26] to spend legal, to spend money
[39:30] for legal advice
[39:31] and documents out of the Open Space fund for this purpose.
[39:38] So again, we will entertain a motion
[39:41] and then go to public and board comment.
[39:46] - I'll move to approve the request
[39:47] to spend Open Space Preservation program funds
[39:49] and direct the solicitor
[39:51] to prepare a legally binding repayment agreement.
[39:55] - Okay. - I'll second
[39:57] - I'll Okay.
[39:59] And now I will open Public Comment.
[40:03] - Okay. - Seeing none, we'll go round.
[40:07] Tammy, you made the motion? Any comments?
[40:11] - No, I, it seems pretty straightforward to
[40:13] - Me.
[40:14] Okay. Thank you Bruce.
[40:15] - None. Thanks. - Okay, Ron,
[40:20] - Is this, do we have any idea of how extensive the work is?
[40:25] - We do not, we're hoping not vary, but,
[40:30] - Okay.
[40:31] This is to correct language or, or
[40:34] - No, - Tom better make it legal to, to
[40:40] collect the advance payments in the event that,
[40:44] that you have a buyout? No.
[40:46] - Is that what it is? We have, we have nothing in place
[40:48] that tells, that shows the proper process to get
[40:53] that money back at closing.
[40:54] Like we have to know what the process is and then,
[40:58] and then have the documents for the landowner to sign
[41:01] that this money will be paid back
[41:04] and then just potentially like a lien or something on that.
[41:07] So to ensure that we get those funds back at closing.
[41:11] So it's, it's the process
[41:13] and the documents involved in order for us
[41:16] to get our funds back.
[41:18] - So we didn't have that before now? No, we, we
[41:20] - Don't have, we've never encountered this before
[41:22] because we're just starting into the per permanent
[41:25] Preservation and we've never
[41:29] - Okay.
[41:30] - Had that. Yeah, the,
[41:32] because Joanne Fisher, when we did her property,
[41:34] she had not taken an advance payment, so we didn't have
[41:37] to go through this process.
[41:39] But the, the two, they're in the queue now.
[41:42] Sam Gray and the monds, they,
[41:45] the owners had taken an advance payment.
[41:47] So we have want to get this worked out
[41:49] and we'll have more probably.
[41:53] So that's where we're at. Any other comments, Lauren?
[41:58] No, I'm good with it. Okay then all those in favor please
[42:02] signify by saying aye a Aye aye.
[42:05] Aye. Any opposed? Okay, thank you. Motion passes.
[42:11] Strategic plan proposal approval.
[42:15] You can, if you've seen up there, the, the board
[42:17] of Supervisors, it's been going on five years
[42:21] that we've done any strategic planning work
[42:24] and we have a proposal submitted by Mr.
[42:28] Plucka who has done two previous sessions for us
[42:32] and we sent out a request for a proposal
[42:34] and he sent us a detailed proposal back
[42:39] and that was linked in.
[42:42] So this is something we've been
[42:45] talking about and working for.
[42:46] So we will, I'll entertain a motion
[42:49] and then we will do discussion.
[42:55] - I'll move to approve the strategic plan
[42:58] proposal provided by Mr.
[42:59] Dave Buca not to exceed $10,000.
[43:03] - Okay. Is there a second? I'll second.
[43:08] Okay, thank you. And I will now open Public Comment.
[43:15] Okay. Seeing no Public Comment online.
[43:18] Alright, go down. I'll start with Tammy.
[43:23] You made the motion.
[43:27] - I I don't have any additional comments.
[43:28] I mean it's strategic planning has,
[43:31] is long overdue for the Township.
[43:34] That's been obvious in many different situations.
[43:37] So I think the plan that Mr.
[43:39] Buca has laid out is very clear and concise.
[43:46] - Thank you Bruce.
[43:48] - One question, one comment question being
[43:52] how do we feel about this level, this $10,000?
[43:55] Is this possibly excessive?
[43:57] We have nothing else to compare it to.
[44:00] No other bids In our discussions today,
[44:04] Brett indicated this is coming out of unencumbered
[44:07] and we're already exceeding budgeted amounts
[44:11] for unencumbered or will be with what we've kind
[44:14] of already put in that bucket.
[44:16] That's, it's a question. It's not really a criticism.
[44:19] I'm just putting it out there
[44:21] and should we maybe have another bid?
[44:25] - Okay. Thank you Brett.
[44:28] I think we are covered though, right?
[44:29] With if we stand under this amount
[44:32] - Yeah, you you don't have to except
[44:34] that if it's technically by
[44:36] - Law know. Right.
[44:37] - And the 10,000 will come out of un uncovered.
[44:39] There were some unforeseen things that happened once,
[44:43] this was some semi plan for that caused un uncovered
[44:47] to be used up earlier than typical.
[44:50] But as we go on with the year,
[44:52] we can make adjustments as we need.
[44:53] The, the 10,000 won't hinder us one way or the other.
[44:56] - Okay, thank you. - I do have one comment though too.
[45:03] In the proposal, we are expressly excluding any form
[45:06] of public participation, Public Comment.
[45:09] That's the way it's written. I, my understanding
[45:11] after speaking with Amy is that's actually in accordance
[45:14] with the specification that we gave them,
[45:15] which I did not know earlier.
[45:17] But I personally, I would like to see that we include
[45:21] public input to this process by whatever means.
[45:25] And maybe that needs to be discussed now, whether
[45:27] or not that has any bearing on the proposal, maybe
[45:32] that's a question too.
[45:33] I'm sure he can shuffle his buckets and dollars
[45:37] and whatever to still not exceed the 10,000,
[45:39] but include some phase
[45:41] of Public Comment if we agree to do that.
[45:44] - Okay, thank you. Let's see, we'll go to Lauren.
[45:50] - I'd just like to add that, you know, all the previous
[45:54] strategic plan meetings were open to the public
[45:58] and from my understanding there was never any
[46:00] public participation.
[46:03] The last one was at the COG building,
[46:05] but this is an open meeting.
[46:06] Anybody from the Township,
[46:08] any resident is welcome to attend.
[46:12] So I just wanted to make that point clear as well for Bruce
[46:15] that it's not a closed meeting, it's not a a
[46:21] executive meeting, but this is will be open
[46:25] and anybody from the community that wants to attend
[46:27] and put their input in while we're discussing
[46:30] the various topics that will be on the meeting are welcome
[46:34] to come and participate.
[46:39] - Okay. And Ron?
[46:43] - Well, as I understand this process, I read the,
[46:46] the proposal I don't see in there where
[46:51] the board sits in a meeting
[46:54] and debates some of the issues, the planning issues
[46:58] that each of us would come up with as individuals.
[47:01] And I think it is important
[47:02] that rather than just have interviews independently,
[47:06] individually, that we also partake in a review or a,
[47:10] or a discussion of those same points that we come up with.
[47:14] But I think it is important that, that we
[47:18] have the opportunity to debate those points
[47:21] or discuss those points in, in an actual, you know,
[47:24] in a meeting as a group
[47:25] and not just in individual interviews.
[47:28] So I I I, and maybe that's in there and I didn't see it,
[47:31] but I wanted to be sure that we had a discussion, you know,
[47:35] on those points once we have a draft
[47:38] of each person's opinions, I don't know
[47:41] how the interview is gonna take place,
[47:42] but I, I've been part of these before.
[47:45] I just wanna make sure that we as a group of Supervisors to,
[47:49] to discuss those points that we end up with at some point.
[47:53] - Okay, thank you. Yeah, it, it's my understanding
[47:56] and based on how he's run them in the past
[47:59] and from what I've read, he will be talking to staff
[48:02] and he'll be talking to the Supervisors,
[48:04] but he's gathering the, the data
[48:06] and he's preparing for the session.
[48:07] That mostly likely will be an all day session here.
[48:11] And that is where we will be discussing and prioritizing
[48:14] and bringing all that information together.
[48:18] So yes, there, there will be what you're asking for
[48:21] and I think it's a very necessary part of everything.
[48:25] - Alright, thanks. - Yes.
[48:28] And there will be like, like Lauren said, the,
[48:30] the meeting is open to the public to, to observe
[48:34] and also when we have the strategic, the draft
[48:37] of the strategic plan, we will be presenting
[48:39] it during a meeting.
[48:41] We will present, we'll take input
[48:42] and feedback from the public, then we will make any updates
[48:47] that are needed and we will approve.
[48:48] Plus then once we use that strategic plan,
[48:51] we will be using it to then pull items onto our agenda
[48:55] based on what's on the strategic plan for out for one year
[48:59] or two years, you know, up to potentially five years.
[49:02] So then the public then has also,
[49:05] when those items appear on the agenda,
[49:07] it'll just be like everything else.
[49:08] You'll have Public Comment and, and feedback then.
[49:12] So there will be multiple opportunities for public to
[49:17] review, see, and participate.
[49:21] So that's anything else from the board on
[49:25] that subject?
[49:28] Okay. Then all those in favor please signify by saying aye.
[49:32] Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
[49:37] Did Ron Vo? He did. Okay. I didn't hear, let start call.
[49:40] Oh, okay. Okay. Wanted to make sure I got 'em.
[49:43] Okay. Alright. I
[49:45] - Can't, I can't work the microphone fast enough.
[49:49] - Alright, thanks. Alright.
[49:51] I don't, I will accept a motion to Adjourn. So moved.
[49:56] - Second. Second. - Don't have Chuck to second. Okay.
[50:00] Meeting adjourned. Thank you.
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