1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,799 Meeting the order of the special budget meeting of the Hall County Board of 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,515 Commissioners and ask Mara to call the role. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,200 » Karen Brethar not present. Butchers [music] 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,639 » here. >> Pam Lancaster 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,840 » present. >> Eric Quant 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,040 » here. >> Ron Peterson 7 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:14,240 » here. >> Jane Richardson 8 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,960 » here. >> Scott Sen here. 9 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,480 » Notice of the open meeting law. This is a public meeting subject to the open 10 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,920 meeting laws of the state of Nebraska. Requirements for an open meeting are 11 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:28,160 posted on the door to my left and notices are on the front table for your 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:33,680 information. If anyone has a request to reserve time 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:38,320 on from the audience on a specific agenda item, please come forward at this 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:43,520 time. Seeing none, we have verified the affidavit publication. I would entertain 15 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:47,520 a motion or uh entertain a uh public participation with commissioners cannot 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,200 take action on non-aggenda items. Is there anybody that wishes to address the 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,280 board of commissioners under public participation? [music] 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:01:03,079 Seeing none, we'll go on to item number two, discussion of possible action on 19 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:03,079 2627 budget items. 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,479 » Kayla, >> good morning. 21 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:13,200 » Morning. >> Okay, so as you all know, we have an 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:18,320 updated valuation and I that should be in front of you, I believe. Um, so the 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:23,759 total taxable value you'll see has not changed. So kind of the numbers that we 24 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:28,320 were playing with the levy the other day are all still relevant because you're b 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,240 if we left everything the same your levy would still be even because the total 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:38,479 valuation did not change. What did change is the growth number and so that 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:44,560 new growth percentage is only 3.31%. So that impacts your joint public hearing 28 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:49,759 or pink postcard calculation and it impacts your allowable authority 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:55,439 calculation as well. So, if hypothetically we left everything the 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:02:00,560 same as it we left it last week, as far as the joint public hearing, you'll 31 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:04,640 remember we were under that number. With the new growth number, you would be over 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:09,640 and attending the joint public hearing and that the dollar amount that you're 33 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:09,640 over is $193,9164. 34 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:20,720 So then similarly the growth calc is affected again if we changed nothing 35 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:27,319 right now you would be losing in like giving up to the future the authority 36 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:27,319 you'd be losing is $729,9262. 37 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:38,160 And so kind of the same um conundrum we found ourselves in a week ago just with 38 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:43,360 different different growth number. Um, and so the goal here is just to 39 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:48,560 figure out where what the board wants to do, how they want to react to the change 40 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:52,266 in valuation, and what changes we need to make to the budget. Basically, 41 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:58,879 » I guess my question would be what would [music] what would it take for us to 42 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:01,519 reduce the levy enough that our we wouldn't be required to have the pink 43 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:06,440 postcard? >> Yep. So, that public hearing number is 44 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,440 that $193,9164. 45 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:13,599 So, if that is the goal of the board, I would assume we would do a cut of like 46 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:18,560 195 or 200,000. >> And that would and that would also 47 00:03:16,159 --> 00:03:22,239 reduce our uh >> that would like increase your lost 48 00:03:20,239 --> 00:03:26,080 authority amount to closer to like $925,000. 49 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,040 » Reduce the levy, but it increase the extra unused authority. 50 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:33,200 » Correct. Yeah. Cuz it would bring the levy down. I have those that 51 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:39,560 calculation, too. If we cut, you know, 195, it would bring the levy down to 52 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,560 39775. 53 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,760 » The very top. 54 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:52,400 » So, if we would cut, you know, like $200,000 55 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:56,239 um or 195, I mean, $5,000 doesn't change the levy. You're you're right in like 56 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,480 the $397.70 area 57 00:03:57,767 --> 00:04:04,480 [laughter] compared to right now you're at $4002. 58 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:10,120 » Yeah, >> cuz I I was going to say I've written 59 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:10,120 notes on these 60 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:19,519 » should. Yeah, but this is the one I've written 61 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:23,759 notes on. Um, 62 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:27,440 » I think your I think your uh third page is the same as it was previously [music] 63 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,960 if you're looking at the third page. >> Well, but I don't have this page. I 64 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:35,840 don't think so. I updated all of your documents. 65 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:40,800 » I haven't been here. I haven't taken anything out of my book. 66 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:44,000 » That's strange. Let me grab you. >> Thank you. 67 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,320 » Okay, good. Thank you. >> I'm sorry about that. 68 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:51,720 » That's okay. No, no, no. Thank you. I've got a little trouble following along 69 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,720 here. 70 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:06,160 » Can we go back and go over the fact that the growth changed but the total 71 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:11,440 valuation didn't? >> Um, correct. That is correct. The total 72 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:15,199 the total valuation did not change. Um, and so the all the levy calcs we were 73 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,080 giving previously are all the same. we're not going to have a big shift, you 74 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:22,320 know, in levy because of that staying the same. But then since the growth 75 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:26,320 number changed and that number directly impacts the joint public hearing 76 00:05:23,919 --> 00:05:30,160 calculation and the tax authority calculation, [clears throat] those are 77 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:34,720 changing and so that is what we're kind of discussing. My understanding of that, 78 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:39,360 which I think is what you're asking. My understanding of that was that the 79 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:43,680 change had something to do with how the growth number was calculated um in 80 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:47,759 relation to, you know, new and tipped properties, I think is what the email 81 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:51,280 said. And so that's why the total did not change and just the growth. 82 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,840 » Yeah. If we have some questions on that, I did ask Christie to be here today so 83 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:58,240 that if we had some questions about why that changed 84 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,960 » and if you want, I can step down if you guys want to do that. 85 00:05:59,039 --> 00:06:05,000 » Yeah, I'd like to know. Okay. I think it would be helpful. 86 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:05,000 » I agree. 87 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,080 » Morning. >> Morning. 88 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:19,360 » So the tiff was entered as growth. Um so which it shouldn't have been and 89 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:26,880 which we all know the entire [music] city is tiff. Um 90 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:33,759 so um what we did then was just remove it all that growth and um reran our 91 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:38,400 numbers. So, >> so is that new tiff or is that all the 92 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,319 tiff that all >> all t another one? 93 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:48,319 » Well, anything that was new like the hotel by the mall, finishing the 94 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:53,039 mall, Target, any anything like that. >> But those are all they're all part 95 00:06:50,034 --> 00:06:55,840 [music] of the they are new tiff that the old tiff has already been excluded. 96 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,440 I mean, >> well, any growth, 97 00:06:57,039 --> 00:07:04,479 » right? So if it was half done last year and they went and finished it off, they 98 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:08,319 entered that as growth. So we had to go in and remove all that 99 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,880 and rerun our numbers. >> So who entered it as growth? I don't 100 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,039 understand. >> Like the field staff when they're doing 101 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:20,400 their work. >> So which I should have caught it, but I 102 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:28,560 [music] didn't. So that's my fault. I have my own things going on. So, um, 103 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:32,720 but, >> uh, can you can you also even though 104 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,240 even though we cut the growth quite a bit, the growth [music] is still quite a 105 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:41,039 bit higher than what it was previous year. What are some of the projects that 106 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,680 might be included? Would that be things like 107 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:49,919 Hornady's [music] new plan out at the ordinance plant? 108 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:56,240 » Yes. Um, the casino got finished on this year, which was huge. Um, [music] 109 00:07:54,160 --> 00:08:01,520 » what about like the John Deere location? Is that Is that Tiff down on on 281? 110 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:03,360 » Um, >> Murphy Murphy. 111 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:05,520 » Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. 112 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,919 » Murphy there. >> Yeah. 113 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:11,039 » I can't remember. There's so many. >> I mean, there's quite a bit of growth 114 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,599 out there obviously. >> Yeah. 115 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,680 » Prairie Commons community. >> Yeah. [music] Cuz not all of Prairie 116 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Commons is TIFF. There are a lot of TIFF stuff there, but 117 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,759 » out by the by the new hospital. 118 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,160 » It's all tiff. >> Not all of it. Balls isn't. 119 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,440 » Oh, yeah. That that doesn't count. >> Yeah, 120 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:37,279 » they own they own their part of the building, but the rest of it is all t 121 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:42,560 » Well, >> how can we have three different 122 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:50,959 certifications on growth? We The first one was 463 million, the second one was 123 00:08:46,959 --> 00:08:56,640 462 million, and now we're down to 268. and and um I went Mrs. Duly went back 124 00:08:54,240 --> 00:09:03,839 and looked the highest we've ever had was 282 and 23, but we're not anywhere 125 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:09,120 the 331 isn't anywhere close to the other years and growth. 126 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:13,600 » Well, the first one was a whoopsie. That was the one where the tiff was entered. 127 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:18,240 Well, we thought, well, the growth was entered incorrectly, so and I apologize. 128 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:23,279 I was in the hospital when all this was going on. [snorts and clears throat] 129 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:27,360 So, um, I had sent something to Mandy which 130 00:09:25,279 --> 00:09:30,680 wasn't the correct report, so it got entered incorrectly 131 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:40,080 and then [music] she ran that one. And then I tried to fix it [music] and 132 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:44,240 then I was like, "Okay." Um, 133 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:48,880 I was like, "Okay, that was incorrect." So, I had to go read through and add 134 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:53,160 everything up by hand and re-enter everything. 135 00:09:53,600 --> 00:10:02,080 That's why. But, you know, I'll pass these around, 136 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:07,600 but compared to the other years, I mean, it 137 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,600 just it stands out like something's wrong. 138 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:13,040 » Do you want to come up and sit with us and we'll go through them one by one? 139 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:18,240 » Your job, Christie. >> Gary. Gary, show some just explained it. 140 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:22,640 There's been another year bigger. There's been one year bigger. Sometimes 141 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:27,760 I mean there's a lot of depend on these numbers. 142 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,279 » We know that. But beating the beating a dead horse does nothing. This is the new 143 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:34,279 number because there was too much tip included. 144 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:39,440 » Well, all the tip was included. >> It's now been correct. 145 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,640 » Tip was included. >> But now cut it out. 146 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,240 » Yeah. But there has been a lot of growth. a lot of construction. If you go 147 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:49,360 back and look at our building permits over the last couple years from the 148 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:54,560 building department, there [music] were some pretty huge projects in there. 149 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:57,279 » Well, and I I had an opportunity. So, I called Ryan 150 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:04,320 » and I chatted with him a little bit about growth and he did say that he felt 151 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:08,320 that he and his counterparts at the city agreed that growth was was steady or 152 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:14,399 declining [music] last year. So it's still I mean I share 153 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:19,120 some of the concern about this number. I mean if if you're if you feel very 154 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:24,000 confident that this is the number >> I do. 155 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:28,240 » How um who else will this affect? Will it affect anybody else? Will it affect 156 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:32,320 you know like I it won't affect any other parts of the county except well 157 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,640 it'll affect everybody in the county depending on 158 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,079 » So it really just affects any entity that's using a gross number. So again, 159 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:41,440 my understanding is that the taxable value didn't change for anybody because 160 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,959 I me and Kim reviewed those because of the fire districts and making sure you 161 00:11:42,959 --> 00:11:47,839 need a fire district, you know, redo. And so then since the only thing that 162 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:51,040 appears to have changed is the growth number, it only affects those other 163 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,640 entities to the degree they're using the growth number. So for example, like you 164 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,959 guys and then you know the city and schools, you're using the growth number 165 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:03,680 for your authority calculations and for your joint public hearing. Um for all of 166 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:10,240 the other entities, they're still on the old lid cal. Um so the the growth is 167 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:14,160 also affecting um their authority calculation. Um but they aren't have 168 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,120 they don't have to do like a joint public hearing. So they don't have you 169 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:21,440 know like a deadline this Friday like you guys do um to to have to kind of 170 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,399 make a decision by >> Okay. 171 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:28,720 » Yeah. Essentially every entity is using the growth number in some capacity 172 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:33,920 because everyone has some kind of lid/ authority count and that number is part 173 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:37,680 of that. Um but that that'd be the main thing except for the the city, the 174 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:41,920 county and the school. You have the two calculations. 175 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:48,440 » Worst case scenario, if this would happen to be high, how will it affect us 176 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,440 going forward like next year? 177 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:54,800 » Okay. So, let's say hypothetically, we think through I'm thinking through this 178 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,040 live. So, hypothetically, let's say we come back 179 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,560 » and I'm sorry I didn't put you on this. >> No, you're okay. No, you're fine. This 180 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:04,880 is my job. You're good. we come back in a month and find out it's still too 181 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:07,600 because if it's too low, it's just, you know, more authority loss or something. 182 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,839 The bigger problem would be if it was too high [music] and then you, let's 183 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:15,920 say, for example, let's say you cut 200 a day, you stay right under the hearing. 184 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:20,800 Well, if it came back again and it was lower and then you should have attended 185 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:24,320 the hearing. I can't say that that I don't I'm not 186 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,120 aware that that's like written into the law anywhere of like what would happen 187 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:32,000 if the ser would change again because you you I would say you you're acting in 188 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:35,360 the information that you have now and this would be um a good party question 189 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,160 too of what his thoughts are from the legal standpoint because you're acting 190 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:41,440 on the information you have and I don't really know what else you're supposed to 191 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:45,120 do besides act on the information you have. Um, I mean, we would obviously 192 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:49,760 have to contact the state and the state auditor and show them, you know, the 193 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:53,600 paper trail of how we acted and what we believed to be, you know, the 194 00:13:50,959 --> 00:13:57,839 information we had, but that would be the biggest thing cuz again, you have 195 00:13:55,680 --> 00:14:02,480 you're going to be at the cap of your authority. So, worst case scenario 196 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:07,680 there, you would end up using a little bit of the authority that you, you know, 197 00:14:04,959 --> 00:14:12,160 have saved. I don't foresee an instance where you would the the number would be 198 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:16,160 so different that you wouldn't have enough authority to cover your levies. 199 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:19,120 Like I wouldn't foresee that. I would think the biggest issue would be if you 200 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:24,079 wouldn't have held a hearing and you should have. But again, if you're acting 201 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:28,880 on the information you have on that day, I don't see how you could be held, 202 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:34,160 you know, to a higher standard. And technically this will be the last year 203 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:38,000 that this type of thing applies because next year we will be required to have 204 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,480 the joint public hearing no matter what our levy is. 205 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:44,079 » Correct. Because it'll be happening on the front which again I think is makes a 206 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,040 lot more sense based on what I think the intent of the legislature was. 207 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:52,160 » Yeah. >> Okay. And according to the information 208 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:57,440 that we got from the state they referred us back to the assessor 209 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:01,199 » for any additional information. [music] So we So you're right. If we're acting 210 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:05,199 on the information that we have at the time, it falls on the assessor. 211 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:09,279 Whatever. I mean, it's just what it is, >> right? 212 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:12,720 » So that's why I ask you how certain you were that this was correct. 213 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:17,519 » I'm certain. >> Okay. Any other questions for Christie? 214 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:23,519 » Is this something that we need to have the state out here look at? 215 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:28,320 » That is completely up to you guys as a board. I don't 216 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:32,079 know what you what they would expect to find and I don't know what they'd even 217 00:15:30,079 --> 00:15:36,480 be willing what they'd be willing to review. I guess 218 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:40,560 » I don't know that the state auditor knows how to calculate these numbers. I 219 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:45,760 mean in fact I ask you take the numbers that Chris's office has and she was 220 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:50,480 using them together and should add it up correctly. It be the same number. That's 221 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:54,079 my concern when I I've discussed this at length after I decided or after I 222 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:59,759 realized we were having the public meeting and it sounds as though um 223 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:03,839 that's what would happen. So unless there is an incorrect calculation 224 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:07,440 somewhere along the line with the other numbers 225 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:12,399 it they would just take the numbers that she has run them through and because 226 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:18,880 they weren't here in the on the onset. I mean that would take that would take 227 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:23,279 months to determine you know from the onset what took place and how it took 228 00:16:21,199 --> 00:16:29,040 place and if there's an air where the air is and so on. So I I don't think 229 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Gary the auditor would take it on. I I the I don't know about the state 230 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:37,279 assessor. >> Even if they would I I would say it be 231 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,759 impossible that you would get an answer before the end of this week, which is 232 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:45,920 what you need to >> I understand that. But these numbers are 233 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:49,920 numbers that affect every year afterwards. 234 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:54,360 And we got to know at some point that the starting point's going to be right. 235 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:59,000 I'm going be honest with you. I don't trust these numbers. 236 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:06,000 » We got three sets of numbers so far. >> Well, that second set shouldn't have 237 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:10,240 happened. >> You're just looking for something to 238 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:16,439 stir the pot and put in the paper, Gary. >> No, I'm not. The numbers are right. I 239 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:16,439 wouldn't have said nothing. 240 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:28,880 Well, I'm I'm satisfied with the numbers and I think it really there isn't 241 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:33,360 anything that can be done that makes any sense 242 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:36,080 that could be solved within the time frame that we have to work with in terms 243 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,640 of doing the joint public [music] hearing 244 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:43,039 » because any any changes we have to they have to be done by September 4th. The 245 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:47,600 pink card, correct? >> Yeah. 246 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:51,360 And I um I share the the the second part of your 247 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:54,799 statement, the fact that there really isn't there's not time to do anything 248 00:17:52,880 --> 00:18:00,559 else anyway. [music] I share the concern that these numbers 249 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:05,919 are high, but I don't know where. [music] I mean, 250 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:10,400 I have no idea. I mean, 251 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:15,840 we're in a conundrum where we've just got to decide whether whether we trust 252 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,679 them enough to move forward, I guess. >> And and we don't have a choice [music] 253 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:23,840 time frame to do anything else. >> So, I think we're caught between a rock 254 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:28,799 and a hard spot. >> But I do I I I want that noted that I 255 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,240 share the concern that this number is high. We'll just 256 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:37,039 » But we'll say the number we'll say here's $120 million. If we're $120 257 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:42,640 million off, look at the numbers that we've got today. That's how much we 258 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:48,000 would be off again. >> Well, pretty close. 259 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:52,080 » Somehow or other. I mean, I'm sure there'd be there's got to be a way to 260 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:57,760 correct that at some point somehow. But I don't I'm not [clears throat] I'm not 261 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Gayla. I can't tell you how it's done. In fact, I don't think there's anybody 262 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:07,440 else [music] in the county that I mean that I can think of that 263 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:12,640 that could support or dispute these numbers. 264 00:19:10,193 --> 00:19:16,160 [music] It's just they are what they are for today because we don't have any more 265 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:20,480 time and there's nobody else who can compute them. I mean [music] even even 266 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:25,913 Kayla said you that that's a different situation from what I do mean what she 267 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:30,480 does. Christy, is it possible to print [clears throat] out a listing of like 268 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,120 what makes up the growth? Like is it I mean I don't know if that would bring 269 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:40,400 the board any comfort is if we could see a list that is the you know $268 270 00:19:37,679 --> 00:19:43,520 million and say okay 50 million if it's this and then I don't know if that would 271 00:19:41,679 --> 00:19:48,400 bring the board any comfort of like yes those are legitimate projects we based 272 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:52,880 on your knowledge of what's going on in the county. Yep. I don't think that's 273 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:57,039 tiff. I don't think that's tiff. Would that bring the board comfort if we could 274 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:00,400 get a detail of that growth number? What makes that up? 275 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:03,840 » I think it's information we have. >> I can send that. I have it. 276 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:07,360 » I [clears throat] wonder if that would help bring comfort of like being able to 277 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:12,320 see what is in the growth since I I believe that's the number that is um 278 00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:16,320 causing concern and knowing like, okay, this project, yep, I don't think that's 279 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:19,520 tipped. Number seems reasonable. You know that I don't think that's tipped. I 280 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:22,799 don't think that's tipped. >> Why Why don't we ask Christie to do 281 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:25,600 that? And in the meantime, [music] we can move on with our discussion. 282 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:30,480 » I agree. >> But I I don't think we need seven 283 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:35,520 seven stacks of [music] paper. I think that's waste of money. We we need one. 284 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,679 » No, I think it might be one a one sheet thing. 285 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,200 » I don't know how much it is. And my guess and I don't know if there's a way 286 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:45,200 to sort it like if we're export it to Excel and I can sort it because we don't 287 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:49,039 need to look at every single one. We need to look at the biggest 10 and see 288 00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:51,360 if those make sense. >> Right. 289 00:20:49,679 --> 00:20:54,159 » Yeah. And the one thing I'd also mention, I mean, [clears throat] you 290 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,880 talked to Ryan. Did you happen to mention or ask him what he thought of 291 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:00,320 the last two years because a lot of these [music] projects that went on the 292 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:03,840 tax rules for last year were started the year before? Because I would agree. I 293 00:21:01,919 --> 00:21:06,400 think the market's definitely cooling here in the last 18 months. [music] 294 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:10,640 However, there's a lot of projects that were started two, three years ago that 295 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:14,799 came on the rolls in the last year that I'm aware of. I know when I started my 296 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:18,320 own building project, it was a two-year process and 297 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:22,000 » I think mine was 90% complete in December and then it was the next year 298 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:24,720 after when they fully went on the rolls. It's just I did ask 299 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,080 » I think a lot of it's a timing thing. >> I did ask him. 300 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:31,520 » Okay. >> And he said in generalities that things 301 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:36,080 had stayed the same or cooled. >> Same or cool. Okay. 302 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:42,559 » So he did not see a huge growth. He said there were that that he could point to a 303 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:46,799 project or two over the years that you know like the the Hornet was a was a 304 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:51,360 really nice [music] deal and he said this year already they have a really 305 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:55,600 nice deal with the ethanol plant. So they have you know a building permit and 306 00:21:53,919 --> 00:22:01,280 he said that his [music] counterparts and he had had meaning the city had had 307 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:05,760 discussions about it and they all had pretty much felt the same. [music] I I 308 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:11,679 explained to him why, you know, why I was concerned. I wasn't 309 00:22:07,679 --> 00:22:15,919 just, you know, so I mean, he I thought I thought he uh I just told him I didn't 310 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,760 need specific numbers. I needed generalities. 311 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:20,000 » Ryan would know. >> I think he would. 312 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:24,159 » Yep. >> But the percentages other than one year 313 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,159 and this year, they've all been below 2%. 314 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,400 It's >> Yeah, 315 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,640 » we know the concern >> being 316 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,480 a what? >> You got some big build. 317 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,280 » I think [music] like you guys said, let's get a list from Christie. 318 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:46,320 » Yeah, just >> Could you do that, Christie? Would you 319 00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:49,120 » run that and and maybe get it? >> We appreciate it. 320 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:51,760 » If you can just email it to Kim and then we can pull it up. 321 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,760 » Okay. Okay. >> All right. Thank you very much. 322 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:18,320 So based on the numbers that we have, we have to make decisions [music] 323 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,200 accordingly. We can't make decisions based off the three different numbers. 324 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,799 We make decisions off of the current number we have. Is that correct? 325 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,039 » That's correct. >> Absolutely. 326 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:30,159 » Okay. So moving forward, I don't know what the appetite is of the board. If we 327 00:23:28,921 --> 00:23:35,039 [music] want to attend a joint public hearing, we've done it the last three, 328 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:39,039 four years now. Um I guess I would defer to the chairman as to what [music] 329 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,559 his opinion is on that since he is typically one to take the brunt of some 330 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:47,600 of that. Well, 331 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:54,320 um I think the advantage of reducing the uh 332 00:23:50,240 --> 00:24:00,000 uh number to so that we don't have the pink postcard would be that we then have 333 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:04,000 an adjustment in our levy which would be attractive to the taxpayers. [music] 334 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:08,799 Um, I don't have any strong feelings about 335 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:13,600 it, but um, I came in this morning thinking that I would probably be in 336 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:16,960 favor of reducing [music] it by the 195. >> Okay. 337 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:23,039 » Any ideas where? >> Uh, you'd set the levy at 39775. [music] 338 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:28,320 » Yeah. >> We can reduce it on the area that we 339 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:33,039 increased it from the last meeting. >> Right. 340 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,480 » Just miscellaneous. Right. 341 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:40,400 I mean, something else I also thought of while we were running all these numbers 342 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,720 is if I don't know if the board has any discomfort of having that much money in 343 00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:48,000 miscellaneous general, we could we couldn't move all I did the calc. We 344 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:52,480 couldn't move all of it. Um, but we could move some of it to like the bond 345 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,679 levy if you want to, you know, have some more there to pay off in the future 346 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,440 because it wouldn't change the levy. We just be shifting it and that way it's 347 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:03,840 not available to be, you know, spent. But that depends on if you guys think 348 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:07,827 you'd have a need or a reason or a want to spend that over the next year. 349 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:10,559 » Yeah. The problem with that is that [music] if the salary study determines 350 00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:12,320 that we have a >> Yeah. then you wouldn't be available to 351 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,880 you >> because anything 352 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,640 » now in the future you could move that money back to the general levy and use 353 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,679 it for salaries. But yes, the if like for example, let's say you moved 354 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:27,200 $100,000 to the bond levy, you could never move that $100,000 back, but you 355 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,752 could in the future levy that $100,000 in the general fund going forward. Yeah, 356 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,760 but the bond money can only be spent [music] for bond, 357 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,360 » right? >> Which is true. I guess from my 358 00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:40,880 perspective, the amount of money we're talking about is, 359 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:44,400 you know, not a significant percentage. And so, yes, if we have that in 360 00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:48,880 reserves, you can use it one time, but that's only a one-time use. It's not a 361 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:54,400 forever future utilization. So you you're just saying if you're depending 362 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:57,279 on that chunk of money, you're in 2 years, you're going to have to make 363 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:02,559 another big correction in your operations to fund those salaries 364 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,600 » cuz it's only a one time thing. >> Yeah. Yeah. And that's 365 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:08,559 » right. >> Yeah. It's [clears throat] I mean it's 366 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:14,000 one of the cautious things about spending money having a fund that isn't 367 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:17,919 replenished. It's the same, quite frankly, it's the same thing the state 368 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:21,200 is doing by pulling all these funds. >> That's exactly right. 369 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:24,159 » And it's a one-time thing, >> right? 370 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:28,240 » Yeah, that's right. >> Which is what brings up the concern with 371 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,440 like losing authority, which I I think I think this would be a whole different 372 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:34,400 situation if we had the salary study in hand. We'd know exactly what we had to 373 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:38,080 do. So, I completely understand the board's um you know, the direction 374 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,640 you're headed because you it's you can't it's hard to make a decision to do 375 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:46,000 something when you don't have the information. But that's what I super 376 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:51,279 dislike about the new calculation is you're losing the ability to levy those 377 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:55,600 dollars forever going forward. And I it's nothing I can control or you 378 00:26:53,840 --> 00:27:00,000 guys can control. But I just wish the calculation wasn't like that cuz it's 379 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:02,960 making this decision. We would this decision would not be as hard if we 380 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,400 didn't have these different pieces. >> Well, and it makes no sense that you 381 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:08,320 have to levy it this year for future unused authority. [music] 382 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:15,279 It It's >> right. uh they ought to allow you to 383 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:18,000 carry forward 5% if you have that ability and 384 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:22,559 » right >> well the governor says he's looking at 385 00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:26,080 capping valuation valuation increases now I don't know if he'll get it done or 386 00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:33,600 not but >> we talked to him four or five years ago 387 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:39,120 » yeah how you going to do both I I but I more comfortable 388 00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:42,640 » not not messing with the bond I myself. I'm more comfortable. 389 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,080 » So, just a change to the miscellaneous general. 390 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:47,600 » Yeah. [clears throat] >> Yep. 391 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,840 » And [music] Yeah. Well, and if we have Yeah. Well, 392 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,080 it is what it is, right? >> So, um 393 00:27:52,480 --> 00:28:00,100 » Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we uh set the levy at 39775, 394 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:07,120 which would be a reduction in the [music] levy of $227 395 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:12,200 per 100,000, and take the difference out of miscellaneous general. 396 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,200 » Second. 397 00:28:13,919 --> 00:28:17,559 » Any further [music] discussion? 398 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,960 Oh, 399 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:41,840 » six yes votes. Motion carries. Yeah. I do want to add though to the comments 400 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:46,320 one more time the fact that um we are Whoops. We made these decisions based on 401 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,000 the information we have before us, which is the number we [music] received from 402 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,919 the assessor. >> I think that's fair. 403 00:28:51,039 --> 00:29:00,480 » I think that's fair. >> I'm assuming, Kim, you haven't gotten 404 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,480 anything from Christie yet. 405 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:13,760 Hey, Marty, not to put you on the spot, but we were having a discussion 406 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:18,000 um about the change in valuations, and I know the budget area isn't your 407 00:29:15,919 --> 00:29:22,640 expertise, but I don't I'm not aware that the law dictates what would happen 408 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:27,360 if we got another new certified value after, 409 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:31,600 » let's say, or even if we found out something after the end of the month 410 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:36,159 when everything's finalized. I know that there are stipulations in place for like 411 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:40,240 republishing notices and things like that, but are you aware of any other 412 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,880 like legal consequences for the board? >> I am completely unaware. And 413 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,840 » it's fine. >> And so I don't I want my my comments to 414 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:52,399 be read as a neutral. We we're going to want to get outside information. If if 415 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:55,440 you need that question answered, we're going to want to reach out. 416 00:29:54,559 --> 00:30:00,399 I'm sorry. >> No, that's okay. I have some additional 417 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:03,679 news for you later, but um I can't answer that question. Not my area of 418 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,039 expertise. Don't want to advise the board correctly. 419 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:10,080 » Okay. >> And just so that you're aware before you 420 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:16,799 came in, we made the statement in as much as you know we as a group 421 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:24,000 have determined that we're acting upon the information that we have in here. 422 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:26,960 And there is an email from the state when questions were asked the state 423 00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:31,520 suggesting that that I'm going to keep in my budget book by the way. I hope you 424 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:36,159 keep a copy and maybe Kayla will too that that actually states that you need 425 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:41,360 to go back to your assessor. So we are doing what the state I mean you know 426 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:45,679 we're screwing up so to speak. Sorry. >> Yeah. Because we did we did reach out to 427 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:50,080 the state auditor and they directed us to the uh department of revenue. 428 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:55,840 » Yes. um which they were [music] aware of the situation and they directed us to 429 00:30:53,360 --> 00:31:01,200 back to the necessary information. 430 00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:04,320 » Yeah. And and in all fairness, I've been I mean I want you all to know I've been 431 00:31:02,841 --> 00:31:09,679 [music] mega concerned about this and I've imposed on Kayla's good nature 432 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:15,120 several times. So, uh, anyway, she's been very good to to quiet my concerns, 433 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,919 uh, best she could, and that was one of the things that was accomplished was 434 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,181 going to the states. >> Well, Kayla and I had a secret meeting 435 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,480 in the parking lot at the state fair. [laughter] 436 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,679 » Yeah. >> Oh, no. 437 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,440 » I pulled into the I pulled into the state fair parking lot and all of a 438 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:33,360 sudden, somebody rolls down the window and next [laughter] 439 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,519 » just by chance. Can you I mean, it was it was Friday morning, so it wasn't busy 440 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,320 cuz I would have been way if you were there. Saturday morning, you know, it 441 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:44,399 would have been statistically impossible to get a spot next to each other. It was 442 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:48,640 Friday morning and I was like, what are the chances? 443 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:52,000 » You can't get away from it. >> Did you try to 444 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,919 » No, I rolled down my window and I said, >> well, and my my eyes were dilated from 445 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,279 the bright sun and I [laughter] I and she was in the dark and I wasn't sure 446 00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:02,799 who was talking to me. >> I was me. I was like, I don't want to 447 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,840 scare him, but >> I sincerely appreciate all your help. 448 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:10,159 » Well, I just hear So, I went to the budget like so there. Okay. So, if you 449 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,960 obviously I don't expect you guys to do this, but like I I pull up all these 450 00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:16,080 budget forms. I'm like Kim has them in MIPS, but there's manual ones on the 451 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:20,799 website and I always look at those too because the state and Niko is so kind to 452 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:23,919 like put some information on different state statutes in there. I looked there 453 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:29,679 and there wasn't anything good, but there is a budget FAQ that the state um 454 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:34,320 auditor has out here. And so one of the questions does talk about what do you do 455 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:39,039 if the certified valuation um changes after the budget and tax request is 456 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:42,480 adopted. So like after the end of the month and basically do you need to do 457 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:46,480 anything? And it talks about I think the things that we kind of already discussed 458 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:51,679 which is giving me more comfort of we basically would reook at all of our 459 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:56,720 calculations. Um it doesn't specifically address what to do if you didn't attend 460 00:32:54,399 --> 00:33:02,799 the hearing and you should have. This is more focused on if it would cause you to 461 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:08,559 exceed the levy, which at 297 you guys are well below your 50 cent allowable 462 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:11,919 levy. So that's just I would say not in the realm of possibility that it would 463 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:16,480 cause you to change the levy and that that's what this question is focused on. 464 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:20,399 Um, but again, it's still suggesting like review the levy calc, review the 465 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:25,200 different calculations and you know, obviously you need to put an amend 466 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:28,799 amended budget in. But I guess the fact that it's not addressing the public 467 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:35,240 hearing would make me think you acted on the information you had and I mean what 468 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,240 can anybody do at that point? 469 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,679 » Okay, >> that's all we do every year, 470 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:45,039 » right? >> Good. 471 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:49,039 Um, thanks. >> Is there anything else that needs to be 472 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:53,440 brought before the board today? I did mention to Butch and Gary, and if Karen 473 00:33:51,833 --> 00:33:58,399 [music] was interested, the chief did mention the other day that anyone that 474 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:02,559 would like to take a tour of the uh courthouse edition, they would be glad 475 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:07,919 to take you through [music] there. They are at the point where the pretty much 476 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:14,079 the drywall is done on the first floor. the uh studs are up in this uh second 477 00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:18,639 floor and they're finishing that on the third floor. So, [music] they're moving 478 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,280 quite quite rapidly on getting all of that done. So, 479 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,800 » he said they're about three months ahead. 480 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:28,560 » Well, if they're that far ahead, he was hoping 481 00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:30,879 » they they're certainly on they're on time and on budget. That's the best 482 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:35,200 thing I [music] can say. >> Yeah. So, 483 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:40,639 » so there's no no one wants to go any further and whether the state auditor or 484 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,960 whoever it is look at it. >> Can you guys trust these numbers? 485 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:50,639 » We got problem. >> No, I know I came in I know I came in 486 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:53,280 late. Were these numbers redone by Christie? 487 00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:58,400 » Yes. >> And she's going to send us a list of 488 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:02,880 like the top 10 growth items or she's going to send it to Cam. The growth 489 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,960 number is the number in question number 490 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:09,920 » and it's still high >> but that affects this board and what we 491 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:14,160 have to do >> for all the other [music] personally 492 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,839 » well I think you reach didn't you reach out to the state auditor and they told 493 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,760 us to go to the department of revenue department revenue whoever whoever is 494 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:27,599 responsible you know >> circle back to assessor 495 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:31,960 » that back to assessor so this is what we have to deal with Yeah. 496 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,960 » So, we're 497 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,200 » we don't trust the numbers. We don't judge the numbers. 498 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,480 » Yeah, >> that's that's kind of the way it stands, 499 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:45,920 Barry. >> Okay. Uh, anything else to be brought 500 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,880 before the board. Jean and Pam, I'd like to visit with you just a second of 501 00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:53,119 update on what happened at the meeting the other day. Just so, 502 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:56,480 Chris, is there anything else, Kayla, that we need to do? 503 00:35:54,160 --> 00:36:00,320 » No. Right. uh with the with the cut of the 195,000 and setting the levy at the 504 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,880 number that Scott mentioned that puts you below pink postcard calculations 505 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:08,240 based on the number that we have now. Um we've reviewed the authority cal. We've 506 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:13,040 reviewed what the levy, you know, will be. Scott had that in his in his motion. 507 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:16,079 So, um if you don't have any questions for me, I don't believe we need anything 508 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,320 at the moment. >> Okay. Seeing none, we are adjourned. 509 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:23,200 » Thank you. All state banner.