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Sorry. Good afternoon. I'd like

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to call to order a special

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budget workshop of the city of

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Hallandale Beach. Today is

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Wednesday, AUGUST 19th, 2026.

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The time is 4:12 P.M. Could I

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have a roll call, please? Mayor

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Cooper. Present. Vice mayor

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Lazarus. Absent. Commissioner

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Adams. Yes. Commissioner.

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Butler here. Commissioner Lima

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here. City manager. City

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attorney. Marino. MADAM Mayor,

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you have a quorum. Thank you,

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MADAM Clerk. Before we rise for

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the Pledge of Allegiance. I

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would like to call to mind a

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dear friend of Powell in this

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city who had passed away

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recently. Kenny Cohen, if

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you're not familiar with him,

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he's been in front of us a

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couple of times. He works

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directly with the schools. He

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had passed away. Our prayers go

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out to his family and everyone

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that he's touched here in the

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community. And we also call to

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mind the continued war in the

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Middle East and Ukraine and all

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our armed forces that are

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fighting overseas, putting

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themselves in harm's way to

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protect people in harm's way.

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And I've always called to mind

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our first responders here in

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our city, county, state and

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nation that protect and defend

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us every day. A moment of

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silent prayer, please.

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Thank

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you. Commissioner, to lead us

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in the pledge, please. The

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United States of America and to

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the Republic for which it

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stands. One nation under GOD,

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indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. Okay. We have

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anybody signed up for public

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participation? No, MADAM Mayor,

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no, we do not. And we don't

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have any change of the order of

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business. No, MADAM Mayor, so

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we will have at it. All right.

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Thank you very much, MADAM

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Mayor. And good afternoon,

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honorable commissioners. So we

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are here for our well, not our

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final, but one of our close to

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final budget hearings. I'm

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going to ask Director Massey to

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come and lead us through. We

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are going to present to you the

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framework for what will be at

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the official hearing on the

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14th and the 28th. I want to

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thank staff very much for all

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of their hard work, because it

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has been an effort behind the

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scenes to ensure that we are

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able to present to the

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Commission not only another

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balanced budget. We've had to

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make some very difficult

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decisions throughout this

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process. I want you all to know

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that. But again, staff has done

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a tremendous job in getting us

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to this point, and I am happy

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to say that we we are going to

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recommend the rollback rate.

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That's what this budget is

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structured for. So I'm sure at

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the time that we are in in this

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state's history with what might

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happen in NOVEMBER, we are

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probably one of the few cities

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in the state who will be doing

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that. So it's it's a testament,

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again, to your leadership

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commission and your trust of

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staff to continue to do the

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right thing from a fiscal

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perspective. So, Director

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Massey, if you could, thank you

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so much. City manager, doctor

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Earl. Good evening, mayor, vice

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mayor, commissioners and City

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manager, members of the public.

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Today, we're presenting the

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City Manager recommended budget

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and financial Plan for fiscal

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year 27. This presentation

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reflects the updates and

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changes made since the prior

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budget workshops from JUNE 22nd,

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and provides the current path

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towards adoption. Tonight's

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presentation will cover four

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main areas. First, where we are

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in the budget timeline. Current

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situation. Second, the proposed

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changes to recommended budget.

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Third, the proposed millage and

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finally, the recommended five

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year financial plan through

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fiscal year 31. The goal is to

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provide a clear picture of the

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27 budget and the longer

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financial outlook. The budget

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process began in JANUARY with

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budget planning and continue

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with the department's

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submissions in FEBRUARY. City

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manager's office reviews the

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budget in APRIL, and we have

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commission workshops in MAY,

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JUNE, AUGUST 5th and today,

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AUGUST 19th. The next formal

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steps are the first and second

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readings for adoption of the

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millage and budget on SEPTEMBER

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14th and 28th. Once adopted,

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the 27 budget will take effect

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on OCTOBER 1st, 2026. The main

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message on this slide on slide

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four, is that the 27 budget

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tentative budget is balanced in

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the General Fund. Both revenues

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and expenditures total

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approximately $134 million.

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There is no projected general

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fund shortfall for fy 27. The

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balanced budget reflects the

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proposed changes from the city

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Manager's recommended budget we

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provided on JUNE 22nd, reduces

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the proposed millage, the

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rollback rate, and still

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maintains the city's focus on

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long term financial planning

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and the potential impacts of

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future property tax reform.

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This next section walks us

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through the proposed changes to

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the City Manager recommended

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budget. These updates reflect

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refined estimates, updated fund

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level activity and additional

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staff reviews since the prior

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version of the budget. Is there

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a question? No, no. Okay. We're

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good, we're good. I have no

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button for it on slide six.

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five. Hold on a second. Slide

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six. The general fund, which is

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the city's primary operating

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fund, supports core services

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including public safety,

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general government parks,

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community service and other

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city wide functions. On slide

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six, you will see that we

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propose the millage at 7.3848

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on JUNE 22nd. Today, we're

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proposing a rollback rate of

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7.3189. That is an impact of

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$443,000. So on this slide we

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have 993,000 reduction in

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general fund. That's due to the

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rollback rate. And we moved

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some items from the general

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fund to the developer Agreement

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fund, as we felt it was best

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suited there. There's details

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on slide six of the differences

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in the general fund salaries

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and benefits. We had slight

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adjustments of 152,000

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transfers out. That's the

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decreased contribution to the

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renewal and replacement fund.

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Slide seven provides you with

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the detail version of those

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items. B is so contract. We

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received a few weeks ago that

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the bso contract increased by

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$372,000. That is due to the

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impact of the increased frs

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contribution on the city side.

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So we received a revised

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consideration letter from bso

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and that impact was $370,000.

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The tif payment to the cra is

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reduced by $156,000. That is

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due to the rollback rate that

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impact their transfer to

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transportation fund. That

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difference. I'm sorry. Hold on

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a second. Transfer

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transportation fund. That is

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because we increased the

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roadway improvement project,

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and we also removed the fec

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lease because that is no longer

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a viable option for the city at

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this time. So that's the

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difference. Impact there for

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transportation fund, we also

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reduced the contribution to the

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renewal and replacement fund.

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we identified that we were

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going to smooth out the r&r

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fund, and we used those dollars

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to fund more immediate

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priorities such as roadway

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improvement, funding, the bso

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contract, and rolling back the

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knowledge. So the total

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reduction to the general fund

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from the proposed recommended

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budget is $993,000. Slide eight.

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special revenue funds, we

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reduced, the renewal

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replacement fund, small changes

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to three islands in Golden

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Isles. That's based on the JULY

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1st taxable value that came out,

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the cemetery fund. We did add

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$75,000 to cemetery fund for

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the records and asset

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management project. Down on

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slide eight, I just. Yes, we

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removed the fec lease payment

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and increased roadway

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improvements for the permit

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inspection fund, the building

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fund. We did add marketing for

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a pilot program. On slide nine.

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slide highlights the strategic

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personnel updated funded by the

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utility funds. This budget adds

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two utility engineer design

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professional positions. These

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are senior level positions

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intended to strengthen in-house

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design and project management

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capacity for major utility

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capital improvements. Just to

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confirm, and I know I asked you,

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doctor Earl, about this. This

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would be kind of putting in

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place that construction

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management component of

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projects throughout the city.

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Correct. And by also being able

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to design some of our projects

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in-house, we hope to move

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faster and also save a lot of

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money as well. So it's going to

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be where we still use

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consultants, but we're going to

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try and take over as much as we

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can internally just to drive

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these projects home faster.

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interruption, MISS Mason. Slide

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changes to the enterprise fund

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at this time. Those funds

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include sanitation, stormwater

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and the utility fund. Other

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governmental funds. On slide 11,

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the proposed budget is $31

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million, a decrease of $86,000

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from the Developer Agreement

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Fund. Most of these funds

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remain unchanged. The Debt

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Service Fund has a minor

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increase of $700, and that.

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Slide 11. Total proposed budget

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across all fund groups is $251

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million. That includes

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enterprise funds,

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Intergovernmental Special

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Revenue and the general Fund.

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The general fund represents

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53.44% of the total budget.

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Enterprise funds represent

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25.52% and so forth. This

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summary reinforces that the

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overall changes are targeted

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and primarily reflect

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refinements to assumptions and

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fund specific adjustments,

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rather than a broad reduction

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in service levels. The city is

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proposing a millage rate of

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7.3189 for fy 27. This reflects

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a decrease of 0.0660 mills in

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the operating millage, and a

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decrease of 0.0053 mills for

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debt service. This chart shows

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the city's millage trend over

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time, including a decrease from

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7.3848 in 26 to the proposed

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7.3189 in 27. The proposed rate

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supports a balanced general

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fund budget, while reducing the

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military and recognizing

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affordable concerns for

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property owners. If we had not

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decreased the millage rate to

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the rollback rate, an average

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single family homeowner would

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have paid approximately $30

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more. The final section is a

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recommended five year financial

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plan. I know we've gone through

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this a few times before, but

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we're going to take some time

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on it today. Again, this

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section is important because

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the 27 budget is balanced, but

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the city we need to plan for

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future structural pressures,

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property tax reform, public

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safety costs, pensions and

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capital needs. The five year

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plan includes several revenue

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assumptions for property tax

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reform. The model assumes a

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$150,000 homestead exemption

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impact beginning in fy 28. The

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$250,000 homestead exemption

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impact in 29 and future years,

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and a reduction in the

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commercial property cap from

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10% to 5%. Ad valorem revenue

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is budgeted at 2% growth for fy

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28 and future years with fy 27

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based on the bcc estimate of 2%,

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2.25%. The plan also includes

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the increased fire assessment

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rate in fy 27, with estimated

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additional revenue of

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approximately 400 approximately

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$800,000. All other revenues

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are based on recent trends. For

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expenditure assumptions. The

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plan includes a 5.5% increase

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for non police bargaining

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employees and fy 27 and

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subsequent years made up of a

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3% Cola and a 2.5% merit

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assumption for police

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bargaining employees. The plan

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assumes an 8% increase in 27 in

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subsequent years, made up of a

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3% Cola and 5% merit assumption.

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These assumptions are intended

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to reflect anticipated

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personnel costs growth, while

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giving the city a realistic

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long term forecast. The plan

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also assumes a 5% annual

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increase for police and fire

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pensions from fy 27 through fy

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31. It also assumes a 10.2%

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increase for health insurance

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in fy 27 and subsequent years.

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For bso, the plan includes a 27

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consideration proposal and a 5%

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increase in subsequent years.

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These items are significant.

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Cost drivers are important to

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include in the long term

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outlook. On slide 19. This is

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the five year financial plan.

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This slide brings together the

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five year general fund forecast.

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The fy 27 budget is balanced

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with revenues and expenditures

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showing both at $134 million.

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Under. The assumptions shown

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for fy 28 has a small projected

402
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surplus of $268,000 beginning

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in fy 29. The model shows a

404
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projected shortfalls of

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approximately 4.6 million in 5

406
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point 8,000,009.8 million

407
00:23:43,198 --> 00:23:44,333
through fy 31. The reserve

408
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section shows that the city

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begins the forecast period with

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strong unassigned fund balance,

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but reserves decline over the

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long term if projected gaps are

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not addressed. This is why the

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five year plan is being

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presented alongside. The annual

416
00:23:57,980 --> 00:23:59,882
budget provides us time to plan

417
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early, evaluate strategies and

418
00:24:02,284 --> 00:24:04,684
avoid making reactive decisions

419
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later. The next steps are the

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two formal public hearings. On

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SEPTEMBER 14th, we will hold

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the first public hearing to set

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the tentative millage and

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budget. On SEPTEMBER 28th, the

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city will hold the final public

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hearing and consider adoption

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of the 27 budget. I do want to

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add that the Trim notices are

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being mailed out this week. If

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you go online, you should see

431
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your trim notice online right

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now. And not to forget that we

433
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did add the three islands item

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to the trim. Stormwater is now

435
00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:37,619
also being added to trim, so if

436
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there's a substantial increase,

437
00:24:38,654 --> 00:24:40,856
it's because of those items

438
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that are on there. And that

439
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concludes the presentation.

440
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Cool. I don't have any

441
00:24:47,696 --> 00:24:48,797
questions at this point.

442
00:24:48,797 --> 00:24:50,797
Commissioner Butler, you're

443
00:24:53,469 --> 00:24:55,271
recognized. Thank you. Okay. I

444
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have a couple of items I just

445
00:24:56,705 --> 00:24:59,105
wanted to get some

446
00:24:59,274 --> 00:25:01,410
clarification on if I could. So

447
00:25:01,410 --> 00:25:02,645
I so some of my questions are

448
00:25:02,645 --> 00:25:04,346
going to be focused on these

449
00:25:04,346 --> 00:25:05,447
three priorities that I know

450
00:25:05,447 --> 00:25:06,448
keep coming back up about

451
00:25:06,448 --> 00:25:07,549
traffic, flooding and

452
00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:08,917
beautification. So you

453
00:25:08,917 --> 00:25:09,918
mentioned that we're adding

454
00:25:09,918 --> 00:25:11,153
additional money to the

455
00:25:11,153 --> 00:25:13,153
Department of Transportation.

456
00:25:15,457 --> 00:25:17,594
What what is that funding and

457
00:25:17,594 --> 00:25:19,620
50,000. Yeah, added $500,000 to

458
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the roadway and street

459
00:25:20,796 --> 00:25:22,264
improvement project. And so is

460
00:25:22,264 --> 00:25:25,264
that is that intended to

461
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:27,900
improve traffic? No, it's

462
00:25:28,170 --> 00:25:29,471
intended to address the streets

463
00:25:29,471 --> 00:25:32,400
and roadways in the city to

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00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,176
repay them. So we increased

465
00:25:34,176 --> 00:25:35,545
roadway improvements by

466
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$150,000. Did we not also put

467
00:25:36,345 --> 00:25:37,447
additional money in the

468
00:25:37,447 --> 00:25:39,348
Department of Transportation?

469
00:25:39,348 --> 00:25:40,616
Did I did I misunderstand? Yes.

470
00:25:40,616 --> 00:25:42,885
We did not put additional money

471
00:25:42,885 --> 00:25:43,518
in the Department of

472
00:25:43,518 --> 00:25:44,319
Transportation. This additional

473
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,550
money into transportation fund.

474
00:25:46,550 --> 00:25:48,455
All right. Fund includes

475
00:25:48,891 --> 00:25:50,460
streets, roadway. Okay, I

476
00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:52,594
misunderstood it, so I'm sorry.

477
00:25:52,594 --> 00:25:54,264
Bill. Quick bill. So tied to

478
00:25:54,264 --> 00:25:55,497
quick bill. No, that is not

479
00:25:55,497 --> 00:25:57,532
tied to quick build. Oh, okay.

480
00:25:57,532 --> 00:25:58,667
All right. So so these are for

481
00:25:58,667 --> 00:26:00,667
increased roadway improvements.

482
00:26:00,802 --> 00:26:01,503
So that's part of our street

483
00:26:01,503 --> 00:26:03,500
repaving program. That's

484
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:04,940
correct. All right. So I just I

485
00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:06,108
just wanted to I wanted to get

486
00:26:06,108 --> 00:26:07,442
into a couple of questions

487
00:26:07,442 --> 00:26:09,178
about this because I, doctor

488
00:26:09,178 --> 00:26:10,846
Earl and I shared an email back

489
00:26:10,846 --> 00:26:12,800
and forth that's been going on

490
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,151
for quite some time. And I just

491
00:26:15,151 --> 00:26:16,286
want to kind of air this out on

492
00:26:16,286 --> 00:26:18,221
the city commission so we make

493
00:26:18,221 --> 00:26:22,240
sure we're all on the same page

494
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,928
here. Right? So last NOVEMBER,

495
00:26:24,928 --> 00:26:27,950
we were provided an email about

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the status of the street

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00:26:28,196 --> 00:26:29,965
repaving program. Now, this

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00:26:29,965 --> 00:26:32,100
program, I think started in

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00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:33,769
2023. Doctor Earl. All right.

500
00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:37,369
So we've had this program now

501
00:26:37,506 --> 00:26:39,708
operating for three years. And

502
00:26:39,708 --> 00:26:41,476
in NOVEMBER we were sent a list

503
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of streets that are being

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00:26:43,378 --> 00:26:45,547
repaved. And my question was,

505
00:26:45,547 --> 00:26:47,649
what is the prioritization? How

506
00:26:47,649 --> 00:26:49,840
are we prioritizing? How are we

507
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,819
identifying streets? I know the

508
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same issue just came up about a

509
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month ago during a City

510
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commission meeting. So the

511
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concern that I have is that

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since NOVEMBER, I still haven't

513
00:27:01,965 --> 00:27:03,800
received anything that

514
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,634
indicates how we're identifying

515
00:27:05,634 --> 00:27:07,436
streets and how we're repaving

516
00:27:07,436 --> 00:27:08,705
streets. So we're putting a, I

517
00:27:08,705 --> 00:27:09,905
don't know, a million and a

518
00:27:09,905 --> 00:27:11,740
half. I don't know what the

519
00:27:11,740 --> 00:27:12,941
number is today, a million and

520
00:27:12,941 --> 00:27:14,877
a half into this program. I

521
00:27:14,877 --> 00:27:16,110
know we did for the last three

522
00:27:16,110 --> 00:27:17,779
years. This year, maybe another

523
00:27:17,779 --> 00:27:18,781
million or million and a half

524
00:27:18,781 --> 00:27:20,683
into street repaving. And I

525
00:27:20,683 --> 00:27:23,286
still don't have a way of

526
00:27:23,286 --> 00:27:24,686
telling my residents that ask

527
00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:26,421
when their street is going to

528
00:27:26,421 --> 00:27:28,257
be repaved and what the

529
00:27:28,257 --> 00:27:29,725
schedule is going forward. Now,

530
00:27:29,725 --> 00:27:31,660
I understand that we have a lot

531
00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:32,728
going on, and I know that

532
00:27:32,728 --> 00:27:33,896
there's a lot happening, but

533
00:27:33,896 --> 00:27:35,764
this is something that has been

534
00:27:35,764 --> 00:27:37,666
going on since NOVEMBER of last

535
00:27:37,666 --> 00:27:38,867
year. And so I just want to

536
00:27:38,867 --> 00:27:40,769
make sure that we're all on the

537
00:27:40,769 --> 00:27:41,971
same page that that, you know,

538
00:27:41,971 --> 00:27:44,139
when we first approved this, I

539
00:27:44,139 --> 00:27:47,442
went back and I pulled the, the

540
00:27:47,442 --> 00:27:49,842
original presentation that we

541
00:27:49,978 --> 00:27:51,790
had about the street

542
00:27:51,790 --> 00:27:52,581
resurfacing. And I, and I agree

543
00:27:52,581 --> 00:27:54,950
with it wholeheartedly. So one

544
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:56,180
of the challenges is of

545
00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:57,886
inadequate planning. That was

546
00:27:57,886 --> 00:27:59,988
the presentation that we had

547
00:27:59,988 --> 00:28:01,424
for the renewal and replacement

548
00:28:01,424 --> 00:28:02,525
program. And one of the

549
00:28:02,525 --> 00:28:03,959
challenges for inadequate

550
00:28:03,959 --> 00:28:05,727
planning, which I agree,

551
00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:06,828
financial instability due to

552
00:28:06,828 --> 00:28:08,263
reactive spending, service

553
00:28:08,263 --> 00:28:10,660
delivery disruptions, increased

554
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:11,233
public dissatisfaction,

555
00:28:11,233 --> 00:28:13,302
escalation of long term costs

556
00:28:13,302 --> 00:28:15,537
from emergency repairs. I agree

557
00:28:15,537 --> 00:28:16,905
with all of that. And so the

558
00:28:16,905 --> 00:28:19,905
solution that we had been

559
00:28:20,910 --> 00:28:22,712
presented and proposed to us

560
00:28:22,712 --> 00:28:24,846
was to adopt a proactive,

561
00:28:24,846 --> 00:28:26,181
multi-year planning policy. So

562
00:28:26,181 --> 00:28:28,417
that's really what I'm asking

563
00:28:28,417 --> 00:28:29,618
us to do, is to do exactly what

564
00:28:29,618 --> 00:28:33,218
we suggested that we were going

565
00:28:34,724 --> 00:28:36,325
to do. And the, the heartburn

566
00:28:36,325 --> 00:28:38,160
that I had with this really is

567
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,330
that we have been selecting

568
00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:41,563
streets for three years. And I

569
00:28:41,563 --> 00:28:43,366
just want to know what process

570
00:28:43,366 --> 00:28:44,566
we've been using to select

571
00:28:44,566 --> 00:28:45,767
streets for the last three

572
00:28:45,767 --> 00:28:47,569
years. I don't need to know

573
00:28:47,569 --> 00:28:48,704
that we have a whole new

574
00:28:48,704 --> 00:28:49,805
process. I don't need to know

575
00:28:49,805 --> 00:28:52,207
formalized process. I just need

576
00:28:52,207 --> 00:28:53,642
or or something that is

577
00:28:53,642 --> 00:28:55,811
particularly formalized. I just

578
00:28:55,811 --> 00:28:57,947
need to know what we've done.

579
00:28:57,947 --> 00:29:01,183
And I assume that we have a

580
00:29:01,183 --> 00:29:02,618
process. It MAY not be a pretty

581
00:29:02,618 --> 00:29:05,120
process. It MAY not be a

582
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,356
perfect process, but we need to

583
00:29:07,356 --> 00:29:08,725
have a process that we can

584
00:29:08,725 --> 00:29:10,926
share with our residents. And I

585
00:29:10,926 --> 00:29:12,327
think I think waiting almost a

586
00:29:12,327 --> 00:29:13,428
year to get that information on

587
00:29:13,428 --> 00:29:16,428
a program that's been running

588
00:29:16,832 --> 00:29:18,835
for three years. I'm not asking

589
00:29:18,835 --> 00:29:20,402
this to be a priority. I just

590
00:29:20,402 --> 00:29:22,404
want to make sure that this is

591
00:29:22,404 --> 00:29:24,706
clear, that my my fellow

592
00:29:24,706 --> 00:29:26,743
commissioners are are hearing

593
00:29:26,743 --> 00:29:28,810
what I'm asking for and why I'm

594
00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:29,945
asking for it. And I just think

595
00:29:29,945 --> 00:29:33,545
it's an important issue that we

596
00:29:34,316 --> 00:29:37,220
need to need to address. So I'm

597
00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:39,220
going to leave that there.

598
00:29:39,220 --> 00:29:40,756
We've we've had extensive back

599
00:29:40,756 --> 00:29:42,759
and forth. And I just, you know,

600
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:43,659
I feel like I try to get these

601
00:29:43,659 --> 00:29:44,793
things resolved without

602
00:29:44,793 --> 00:29:47,620
bringing them up during a City

603
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:48,163
Commission meeting and airing

604
00:29:48,163 --> 00:29:51,600
our dirty laundry, so to speak,

605
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,801
in public. So that's the first

606
00:29:52,801 --> 00:29:54,102
item that I wanted to talk

607
00:29:54,102 --> 00:29:57,102
about. And that's the street

608
00:29:57,740 --> 00:29:59,242
repaving program. Yes, ma'am. I

609
00:29:59,242 --> 00:30:01,643
know you've asked, and, you

610
00:30:01,643 --> 00:30:04,580
know, I've even dug up some old

611
00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:07,416
records if it to get clear and

612
00:30:07,416 --> 00:30:08,483
concise, you're really is it

613
00:30:08,483 --> 00:30:10,652
possible? I guess the question

614
00:30:10,652 --> 00:30:12,854
is, doctor, is it possible to

615
00:30:12,854 --> 00:30:14,690
list every street that we have

616
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:17,159
paved and just have a program

617
00:30:17,159 --> 00:30:18,927
of. When the next. Just a list

618
00:30:18,927 --> 00:30:20,620
of what streets are queued. And

619
00:30:20,620 --> 00:30:21,930
again, because I know the

620
00:30:21,930 --> 00:30:23,899
original plan had a map, it had

621
00:30:23,899 --> 00:30:25,680
all the documentation on it. It

622
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,435
was different color codes for

623
00:30:26,435 --> 00:30:29,371
different years. You know, it

624
00:30:29,371 --> 00:30:31,974
was a single snapshot of that.

625
00:30:31,974 --> 00:30:34,770
And, you know, I don't know if

626
00:30:34,770 --> 00:30:35,178
it's just the basis of

627
00:30:35,178 --> 00:30:37,800
presentation and this is what

628
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,114
it is because kudos, we did all

629
00:30:39,114 --> 00:30:40,515
these streets. I know my street

630
00:30:40,515 --> 00:30:42,417
isn't paved yet because we have

631
00:30:42,417 --> 00:30:43,652
work under it, you know, and a

632
00:30:43,652 --> 00:30:45,587
lot of times people ask, I say,

633
00:30:45,587 --> 00:30:47,356
well, let me see if more than

634
00:30:47,356 --> 00:30:49,356
likely has something

635
00:30:49,491 --> 00:30:50,659
underground, their water, sewer,

636
00:30:50,659 --> 00:30:51,860
wastewater or something

637
00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:53,529
happening here. But let's

638
00:30:53,529 --> 00:30:54,964
figure out what it was because,

639
00:30:54,964 --> 00:30:56,765
you know, I have one, two. I

640
00:30:56,765 --> 00:30:58,660
had one that I've been asking

641
00:30:58,660 --> 00:30:59,902
for for a while that ironically,

642
00:30:59,902 --> 00:31:01,870
it was a dead end and I don't

643
00:31:01,870 --> 00:31:03,772
think it was on the plan for a

644
00:31:03,772 --> 00:31:05,740
while. So maybe it's just if

645
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,209
I'm hearing you properly, even

646
00:31:07,209 --> 00:31:09,110
just an Excel sheet of the

647
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:10,178
inventory of what we did,

648
00:31:10,178 --> 00:31:12,140
what's still in the pipeline,

649
00:31:12,140 --> 00:31:13,316
and maybe a time frame for it.

650
00:31:13,316 --> 00:31:14,450
Is that simplifying your

651
00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:16,653
request? Yeah, let me just I

652
00:31:16,653 --> 00:31:17,854
just want to know if it's not,

653
00:31:17,854 --> 00:31:19,555
then correct it because that's

654
00:31:19,555 --> 00:31:21,558
what I'm hearing. Well, let me

655
00:31:21,558 --> 00:31:22,758
and let me just say yes. And I

656
00:31:22,758 --> 00:31:24,590
want to I want to add some

657
00:31:24,590 --> 00:31:25,594
additional context to that

658
00:31:25,594 --> 00:31:26,662
because you're right, that

659
00:31:26,662 --> 00:31:28,764
that's that seems like it

660
00:31:28,764 --> 00:31:31,668
should be available. This is

661
00:31:31,668 --> 00:31:34,903
the note that we had from the,

662
00:31:34,903 --> 00:31:37,406
at the time, the dpw director.

663
00:31:37,406 --> 00:31:38,140
So the note was roadway

664
00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:39,641
evaluations were conducted

665
00:31:39,641 --> 00:31:41,377
through field assessments by

666
00:31:41,377 --> 00:31:42,444
the streets Division and

667
00:31:42,444 --> 00:31:44,279
documented through the city's

668
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:46,114
gis roadway inventory and

669
00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:47,516
internal maintenance tracking

670
00:31:47,516 --> 00:31:49,840
systems. Due to licensing

671
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,786
issues, we're unable to access

672
00:31:50,786 --> 00:31:51,787
our gis system to provide the

673
00:31:51,787 --> 00:31:53,455
tracking maps. We have been

674
00:31:53,455 --> 00:31:54,623
informed by it. The issue is

675
00:31:54,623 --> 00:31:56,391
resolved and they will provide

676
00:31:56,391 --> 00:31:57,626
the maps from fiscal year 22

677
00:31:57,626 --> 00:31:59,270
through 25 once the licenses

678
00:31:59,270 --> 00:32:01,496
are reissued. So that was in

679
00:32:01,496 --> 00:32:02,998
APRIL of 26. They said that

680
00:32:02,998 --> 00:32:04,733
roadway selections were

681
00:32:04,733 --> 00:32:05,467
resurfaced based on field

682
00:32:05,467 --> 00:32:07,467
observations and several

683
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:09,105
condition indicators, including

684
00:32:09,105 --> 00:32:10,505
the frequency and severity of

685
00:32:10,505 --> 00:32:12,505
potholes, alligator cracking

686
00:32:12,741 --> 00:32:14,509
and structural pavement fatigue,

687
00:32:14,509 --> 00:32:16,278
longitudinal and transverse

688
00:32:16,278 --> 00:32:17,412
cracking, edge failures, base

689
00:32:17,412 --> 00:32:19,182
deterioration, drainage related

690
00:32:19,182 --> 00:32:20,316
pavement stress, overall ride

691
00:32:20,316 --> 00:32:21,384
quality, resident service

692
00:32:21,384 --> 00:32:22,718
requests, and maintenance

693
00:32:22,718 --> 00:32:24,286
history. That's a lot. I just

694
00:32:24,286 --> 00:32:26,210
said a whole lot of information,

695
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:27,790
but clearly there was something

696
00:32:27,790 --> 00:32:29,324
they did something and this was

697
00:32:29,324 --> 00:32:30,325
from APRIL of this year. And I

698
00:32:30,325 --> 00:32:31,827
understand there's been

699
00:32:31,827 --> 00:32:33,228
turnover, but we have a program

700
00:32:33,228 --> 00:32:34,429
that's been ongoing for three

701
00:32:34,429 --> 00:32:36,332
years, and I assume we're going

702
00:32:36,332 --> 00:32:38,234
to continue to do we have more

703
00:32:38,234 --> 00:32:40,690
streets to do, I hope, but I

704
00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:41,604
don't know. I literally I have

705
00:32:41,604 --> 00:32:43,380
a resident that I can't even

706
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:44,773
tell them when their street is

707
00:32:44,773 --> 00:32:47,643
going to be repaved or if it's

708
00:32:47,643 --> 00:32:49,411
being repaved or if it's even

709
00:32:49,411 --> 00:32:50,613
someday will be repaved. So yes,

710
00:32:50,613 --> 00:32:53,810
mayor, I agree with everything

711
00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:56,510
you just said and I'm asking

712
00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:57,720
just that we we provide I don't

713
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,788
need us to go out and hire a

714
00:32:58,788 --> 00:33:00,589
consultant, put together a

715
00:33:00,589 --> 00:33:01,857
whole new program. I don't need

716
00:33:01,857 --> 00:33:03,693
us to spend more money on this.

717
00:33:03,693 --> 00:33:04,794
I just need to understand what

718
00:33:04,794 --> 00:33:06,595
the program that we've been

719
00:33:06,595 --> 00:33:07,764
using for three years and, and

720
00:33:07,764 --> 00:33:09,699
how that applies for the next

721
00:33:09,699 --> 00:33:10,899
year or two to the streets that

722
00:33:10,899 --> 00:33:12,635
we still have to repave, which

723
00:33:12,635 --> 00:33:14,200
I understand we have quite a

724
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,710
few still left. Okay, doctor.

725
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:17,306
Roll through. Doctor. So I'm

726
00:33:17,306 --> 00:33:19,706
happy that Commissioner Butler

727
00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:21,277
read that because what he read

728
00:33:21,277 --> 00:33:23,245
is a response to the question

729
00:33:23,245 --> 00:33:24,313
of how did we evaluate the

730
00:33:24,313 --> 00:33:25,314
streets. So everything

731
00:33:25,314 --> 00:33:26,582
Commissioner Butler just read

732
00:33:26,582 --> 00:33:29,170
is exactly what we've said for

733
00:33:29,170 --> 00:33:31,153
three years in terms of how we

734
00:33:31,153 --> 00:33:32,421
actually evaluated the streets.

735
00:33:32,421 --> 00:33:34,890
We started this process over

736
00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:36,226
three years ago. And at that

737
00:33:36,226 --> 00:33:37,694
point, this was a this was a

738
00:33:37,694 --> 00:33:39,461
project that at that time, in

739
00:33:39,461 --> 00:33:41,697
the middle of everything else

740
00:33:41,697 --> 00:33:44,867
that we were doing, we said

741
00:33:44,867 --> 00:33:45,568
that we would now take on under

742
00:33:45,568 --> 00:33:46,768
recommendation from

743
00:33:46,768 --> 00:33:48,437
Commissioner Butler that we

744
00:33:48,437 --> 00:33:50,205
would take on the repaving of,

745
00:33:50,205 --> 00:33:52,207
of, of our streets throughout

746
00:33:52,207 --> 00:33:54,476
our city. Now, this commission

747
00:33:54,476 --> 00:33:57,679
will remember that we have not

748
00:33:57,679 --> 00:33:59,514
paved or paved our streets for

749
00:33:59,514 --> 00:34:00,917
decades. And so we had to

750
00:34:00,917 --> 00:34:02,584
quickly pull something together

751
00:34:02,584 --> 00:34:03,719
in terms of how do we evaluate

752
00:34:03,719 --> 00:34:05,621
the worst streets that we have

753
00:34:05,621 --> 00:34:06,788
in our city. We put together

754
00:34:06,788 --> 00:34:09,158
what was initially an eight

755
00:34:09,158 --> 00:34:10,627
year program that we were able

756
00:34:10,627 --> 00:34:12,394
to condense down to, to now

757
00:34:12,394 --> 00:34:13,395
what's roughly a three year

758
00:34:13,395 --> 00:34:15,697
program, because initially we

759
00:34:15,697 --> 00:34:17,532
were looking to deal with these

760
00:34:17,532 --> 00:34:20,370
streets that we had not dealt

761
00:34:20,370 --> 00:34:23,572
with for decades over an eight

762
00:34:23,572 --> 00:34:27,172
year period of time, our team

763
00:34:27,209 --> 00:34:29,746
worked extremely hard to get

764
00:34:29,746 --> 00:34:33,346
that down from eight years down

765
00:34:33,348 --> 00:34:34,816
to three. Where we are today is

766
00:34:34,816 --> 00:34:35,884
we've been given regular

767
00:34:35,884 --> 00:34:37,486
updates in the past with the

768
00:34:37,486 --> 00:34:38,721
commission. In terms of all the

769
00:34:38,721 --> 00:34:41,256
streets that we were doing, we

770
00:34:41,256 --> 00:34:42,524
are at the end of those streets

771
00:34:42,524 --> 00:34:44,493
now in terms of what was given

772
00:34:44,493 --> 00:34:45,661
in APRIL, between APRIL and

773
00:34:45,661 --> 00:34:48,960
today, in fact, between MARCH

774
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,232
and today, we've had

775
00:34:50,232 --> 00:34:51,401
significant turnover in our

776
00:34:51,401 --> 00:34:53,835
Department of Public Works, and

777
00:34:53,835 --> 00:34:56,405
we have lost the people who

778
00:34:56,405 --> 00:34:58,805
were literally doing this

779
00:34:59,275 --> 00:35:01,430
street program. And what I have

780
00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:03,612
asked this commission for is

781
00:35:03,612 --> 00:35:07,150
for time, so that we can deal

782
00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:09,180
with our internal issues.

783
00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:11,119
Remembering that our team has

784
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,655
been doing the work and has not

785
00:35:13,655 --> 00:35:16,191
stopped doing the work. But

786
00:35:16,191 --> 00:35:18,293
there is a transition period

787
00:35:18,293 --> 00:35:20,862
internally that we have to deal

788
00:35:20,862 --> 00:35:22,664
with. And so, yes, is the

789
00:35:22,664 --> 00:35:25,167
commission going to get a whole

790
00:35:25,167 --> 00:35:27,704
new slew of streets that we are

791
00:35:27,704 --> 00:35:29,172
going to do? Yes. Will the

792
00:35:29,172 --> 00:35:30,572
residents get a response to

793
00:35:30,572 --> 00:35:33,572
every single thing that they

794
00:35:34,176 --> 00:35:37,112
ask today? The answer is no,

795
00:35:37,112 --> 00:35:38,847
because our team is working

796
00:35:38,847 --> 00:35:41,783
hard. They are burning it at

797
00:35:41,783 --> 00:35:43,719
both ends. Again, let me say it

798
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,200
on the record. We took what was

799
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,123
an eight year program and

800
00:35:47,123 --> 00:35:48,557
turned it into a three year

801
00:35:48,557 --> 00:35:51,930
program, and our team has been

802
00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:53,162
working extremely hard. I don't

803
00:35:53,162 --> 00:35:56,762
sit here not wanting to give

804
00:35:57,332 --> 00:35:59,340
the commission information. But

805
00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:00,402
we are literally in a

806
00:36:00,402 --> 00:36:01,937
transition period and I have

807
00:36:01,937 --> 00:36:03,672
said we will get the

808
00:36:03,672 --> 00:36:05,173
information I need to get the

809
00:36:05,173 --> 00:36:06,675
people on board who are going

810
00:36:06,675 --> 00:36:08,377
to take over this program. We

811
00:36:08,377 --> 00:36:10,512
have not shied away from

812
00:36:10,512 --> 00:36:12,912
anything that this commission

813
00:36:15,617 --> 00:36:19,187
has asked us to do. Now, jt, if

814
00:36:19,187 --> 00:36:21,390
you if you can, I know you guys

815
00:36:21,390 --> 00:36:23,525
have we are closing out the

816
00:36:23,525 --> 00:36:25,360
streets that we provided to the

817
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,895
Commission three years ago,

818
00:36:26,895 --> 00:36:29,895
correct? Correct. Yes. We have

819
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,570
we have put those on gis let

820
00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:35,337
level gis layers on our map so

821
00:36:35,337 --> 00:36:36,405
I can provide that to you as

822
00:36:36,405 --> 00:36:38,340
the program. Dear. What I

823
00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:39,808
wanted to do was what we had

824
00:36:39,808 --> 00:36:41,243
originally programed here, and

825
00:36:41,243 --> 00:36:42,811
then have another layer that

826
00:36:42,811 --> 00:36:43,946
would be the years in which

827
00:36:43,946 --> 00:36:46,148
they were actually constructed.

828
00:36:46,148 --> 00:36:49,484
So you could see if there's any

829
00:36:49,484 --> 00:36:50,552
streets that we did extra. So

830
00:36:50,552 --> 00:36:52,654
planned for the eight year

831
00:36:52,654 --> 00:36:54,457
program completed in three. We

832
00:36:54,457 --> 00:36:58,600
do have a list that I'm working

833
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,329
with right now on the next five

834
00:36:59,329 --> 00:37:00,629
years. And I know that Charles

835
00:37:00,629 --> 00:37:02,300
was also working on this when

836
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:04,266
Charles was here. Correct.

837
00:37:04,266 --> 00:37:05,467
Charles, who is no longer here,

838
00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:07,170
right, was the primary contact

839
00:37:07,170 --> 00:37:08,870
for this program. And Charles

840
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:10,339
was Charles and I are still

841
00:37:10,339 --> 00:37:11,740
working on that list. And

842
00:37:11,740 --> 00:37:14,740
Charles, even though he's not

843
00:37:15,477 --> 00:37:16,812
here, is working with jt on on

844
00:37:16,812 --> 00:37:18,247
trying to get this thing

845
00:37:18,247 --> 00:37:19,681
together. Go ahead. Jt yes. So

846
00:37:19,681 --> 00:37:22,185
we have the next five years.

847
00:37:22,185 --> 00:37:23,785
What I wanted to do is put

848
00:37:23,785 --> 00:37:25,454
lengths attached to it. I have

849
00:37:25,454 --> 00:37:27,357
a list of roads, but I wanted

850
00:37:27,357 --> 00:37:28,491
to update that like we did the

851
00:37:28,491 --> 00:37:30,292
first five years to give us

852
00:37:30,292 --> 00:37:32,295
linear feet of paving surface

853
00:37:32,295 --> 00:37:33,462
that we need to do. And then I

854
00:37:33,462 --> 00:37:35,297
wanted to compare that one more

855
00:37:35,297 --> 00:37:36,298
time to any known water, sewer,

856
00:37:36,298 --> 00:37:37,699
stormwater projects that we're

857
00:37:37,699 --> 00:37:39,801
going to have on those roads.

858
00:37:39,801 --> 00:37:40,870
So I could give doctor Earl a

859
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:44,207
complete list of what the plan

860
00:37:44,207 --> 00:37:45,308
is going to be, focusing on 27

861
00:37:45,308 --> 00:37:48,110
first, and then making sure

862
00:37:48,110 --> 00:37:51,347
that all the out years are, are,

863
00:37:51,347 --> 00:37:53,515
are carefully considered in

864
00:37:53,515 --> 00:37:54,950
conjunction with the other

865
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:56,553
multiple projects that we have

866
00:37:56,553 --> 00:37:57,920
throughout the city. Same type

867
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,988
of thing that we did the last

868
00:37:59,988 --> 00:38:01,424
time, but now we have more

869
00:38:01,424 --> 00:38:03,592
information on the stormwater

870
00:38:03,592 --> 00:38:05,727
from the, the stormwater master

871
00:38:05,727 --> 00:38:06,828
plan being developed, the force

872
00:38:06,828 --> 00:38:09,640
mains and the water lines that

873
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,234
we're looking to do. So it will

874
00:38:12,234 --> 00:38:13,669
be based on very similar

875
00:38:13,669 --> 00:38:16,690
conditional assessments by our

876
00:38:16,204 --> 00:38:18,604
team. Internally. We did

877
00:38:20,176 --> 00:38:23,450
consider going out to a cna

878
00:38:23,450 --> 00:38:24,647
company to see if they could

879
00:38:24,647 --> 00:38:28,847
add some value to our list once

880
00:38:29,152 --> 00:38:30,319
we came up with it. But that we

881
00:38:30,319 --> 00:38:31,687
haven't brought that to doctor

882
00:38:31,687 --> 00:38:33,422
Earl yet. No, we did. You. I

883
00:38:33,422 --> 00:38:35,580
said, no, we can do this

884
00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:36,725
internally. Yeah. Did Robert

885
00:38:36,725 --> 00:38:38,894
bring that to you? That was

886
00:38:38,894 --> 00:38:41,970
that was done by the previous.

887
00:38:41,970 --> 00:38:43,165
Okay. So long story short, the

888
00:38:43,165 --> 00:38:44,299
list is getting close to being

889
00:38:44,299 --> 00:38:46,168
finalized. We're going to do

890
00:38:46,168 --> 00:38:48,337
the same thing we did the last

891
00:38:48,337 --> 00:38:50,239
time, put it on a gis map layer

892
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,473
so that you can see it by

893
00:38:51,473 --> 00:38:52,541
section of the quadrants. We're

894
00:38:52,541 --> 00:38:55,770
going to do a multi quadrant

895
00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:57,213
approach each year. Again going

896
00:38:57,213 --> 00:38:58,714
forward for the next five years.

897
00:38:58,714 --> 00:39:00,649
And then from there we'll see

898
00:39:00,649 --> 00:39:01,917
how much is left after that of

899
00:39:01,917 --> 00:39:04,287
the city. And then we'll end up

900
00:39:04,287 --> 00:39:05,888
doing a maintenance program to

901
00:39:05,888 --> 00:39:06,923
maintain the roads in the

902
00:39:06,923 --> 00:39:08,123
satisfactory or better

903
00:39:08,123 --> 00:39:09,859
condition going forward with

904
00:39:09,859 --> 00:39:11,860
our annual maintenance program.

905
00:39:11,860 --> 00:39:12,862
So first is to get the roads in

906
00:39:12,862 --> 00:39:14,196
satisfactory condition for the

907
00:39:14,196 --> 00:39:15,931
ones that aren't, and then to

908
00:39:15,931 --> 00:39:17,330
do whatever we have to do to

909
00:39:17,330 --> 00:39:18,934
maintain those so that they

910
00:39:18,934 --> 00:39:20,269
don't degrade and we have to go

911
00:39:20,269 --> 00:39:22,404
into the subbase of the roads,

912
00:39:22,404 --> 00:39:24,106
and it costs three to 4 or 5

913
00:39:24,106 --> 00:39:25,674
times more than just milling

914
00:39:25,674 --> 00:39:27,876
and resurfacing on a regular

915
00:39:27,876 --> 00:39:29,145
scheduled basis. So we are

916
00:39:29,145 --> 00:39:31,470
working on that plan. Charles

917
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:32,882
is still involved, and as soon

918
00:39:32,882 --> 00:39:34,483
as the new director comes in

919
00:39:34,483 --> 00:39:37,553
and as soon as the city

920
00:39:37,553 --> 00:39:38,787
engineer gets, you know, the

921
00:39:38,787 --> 00:39:40,723
opportunity to continue to look

922
00:39:40,723 --> 00:39:41,924
at this program, we'll bring it

923
00:39:41,924 --> 00:39:45,524
back to the city manager, to

924
00:39:46,995 --> 00:39:49,798
the city commission. Good, good.

925
00:39:49,798 --> 00:39:51,700
Thank you. So I doctor Earl, I

926
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:52,769
just want to be clear that I am

927
00:39:52,769 --> 00:39:55,769
very supportive of the work

928
00:39:55,938 --> 00:39:58,440
that the city has been done

929
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,708
doing and that the I fully

930
00:39:59,708 --> 00:40:01,708
support, obviously, repaving

931
00:40:02,778 --> 00:40:04,646
the streets. My my concerns are

932
00:40:04,646 --> 00:40:06,515
just that we have a three year

933
00:40:06,515 --> 00:40:07,115
program. This is an item that I

934
00:40:07,115 --> 00:40:08,984
requested originally in

935
00:40:08,984 --> 00:40:10,852
NOVEMBER of last year. So we're

936
00:40:10,852 --> 00:40:12,222
coming up on a full year of

937
00:40:12,222 --> 00:40:13,355
asking for information of how

938
00:40:13,355 --> 00:40:14,623
we're doing something that

939
00:40:14,623 --> 00:40:16,425
we've been doing for three

940
00:40:16,425 --> 00:40:17,693
years. So while I fully

941
00:40:17,693 --> 00:40:18,961
appreciate all the turnover,

942
00:40:18,961 --> 00:40:20,729
and I certainly have been very

943
00:40:20,729 --> 00:40:22,531
patient, as you've seen in my

944
00:40:22,531 --> 00:40:24,931
emails, I certainly haven't

945
00:40:24,934 --> 00:40:26,635
brought this up for the entire

946
00:40:26,635 --> 00:40:28,337
city commission. But I think I

947
00:40:28,337 --> 00:40:29,538
think it's something that the

948
00:40:29,538 --> 00:40:31,506
residents deserve to know. And

949
00:40:31,506 --> 00:40:33,709
I still have the resident, you

950
00:40:33,709 --> 00:40:35,878
know, who still asks me all the

951
00:40:35,878 --> 00:40:38,680
time about their roadways, what

952
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,682
road it is. I don't know, off

953
00:40:40,682 --> 00:40:41,917
the top of my head, but I'm not

954
00:40:41,917 --> 00:40:43,685
going to know. I don't mean to

955
00:40:43,685 --> 00:40:44,887
pry, because I have somebody

956
00:40:44,887 --> 00:40:46,855
too, and I wonder if it's the

957
00:40:46,855 --> 00:40:48,690
same one that had the dead end

958
00:40:48,690 --> 00:40:49,825
road that hasn't been done yet.

959
00:40:49,825 --> 00:40:51,693
I'm only asking because I keep

960
00:40:51,693 --> 00:40:52,794
asking that road too, because I

961
00:40:52,794 --> 00:40:54,696
keep hearing about it. So the

962
00:40:54,696 --> 00:40:58,201
other thing I just wanted to

963
00:40:58,201 --> 00:41:00,736
ask. So. We reduced the r&r

964
00:41:00,736 --> 00:41:02,537
fund by $1 million. We did

965
00:41:02,537 --> 00:41:05,140
reduce the r&r fund by $1

966
00:41:05,140 --> 00:41:07,543
million. So is there anything

967
00:41:07,543 --> 00:41:09,678
that we have pulled out of what

968
00:41:09,678 --> 00:41:11,113
we're doing? Is there a

969
00:41:11,113 --> 00:41:12,648
reduction in what we're doing?

970
00:41:12,648 --> 00:41:14,820
Is that why did what's the

971
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,840
what's driving the reduction?

972
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,152
So we had said money. So we had

973
00:41:17,152 --> 00:41:18,186
set dollars aside for the

974
00:41:18,186 --> 00:41:19,221
facilities assessment. But that

975
00:41:19,221 --> 00:41:21,523
assessment is still underway.

976
00:41:21,523 --> 00:41:22,991
So instead of holding dollars

977
00:41:22,991 --> 00:41:24,826
in the r&r fund for an

978
00:41:24,826 --> 00:41:25,994
assessment that is not yet

979
00:41:25,994 --> 00:41:27,296
complete, we made the decision

980
00:41:27,296 --> 00:41:29,531
to take those dollars and use

981
00:41:29,531 --> 00:41:32,531
them to fund the roadway

982
00:41:32,701 --> 00:41:34,570
improvement in the fund, and

983
00:41:34,570 --> 00:41:36,306
also use it to fund the gap for

984
00:41:36,306 --> 00:41:37,807
the bso contract and roll back

985
00:41:37,807 --> 00:41:39,641
the millage. So the r&r fund is

986
00:41:39,641 --> 00:41:40,609
is funded. We just set those

987
00:41:40,609 --> 00:41:41,611
dollars aside for the

988
00:41:41,611 --> 00:41:42,578
assessment, but since those

989
00:41:42,578 --> 00:41:44,978
assessment numbers have not

990
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:46,115
come back yet, we made that

991
00:41:46,115 --> 00:41:47,382
decision in terms of the

992
00:41:47,382 --> 00:41:48,584
proposed budget, proposed

993
00:41:48,584 --> 00:41:50,385
budget, proposed budget. The

994
00:41:50,385 --> 00:41:51,787
current budget has the r&r

995
00:41:51,787 --> 00:41:52,854
dollars in it, and we're using

996
00:41:52,854 --> 00:41:54,356
those dollars to fund

997
00:41:54,356 --> 00:41:56,356
continuous projects. Okay.

998
00:41:57,226 --> 00:41:59,728
Thank you. So there are two

999
00:41:59,728 --> 00:42:02,998
items that I wanted to bring up.

1000
00:42:02,998 --> 00:42:06,568
So we had a conversation about

1001
00:42:06,568 --> 00:42:08,104
the annual commission or action

1002
00:42:08,104 --> 00:42:09,438
plan. One of the items that we

1003
00:42:09,438 --> 00:42:12,438
talked about was the green

1004
00:42:12,708 --> 00:42:14,877
pathway. I had had requested.

1005
00:42:14,877 --> 00:42:16,612
That item seems to have dropped

1006
00:42:16,612 --> 00:42:18,615
from it. I forgot all about it,

1007
00:42:18,615 --> 00:42:20,282
and I just wanted to ask if I

1008
00:42:20,282 --> 00:42:21,783
could. Now, I did send an email

1009
00:42:21,783 --> 00:42:23,652
asking for an update. I didn't

1010
00:42:23,652 --> 00:42:25,321
get a response, so I want to

1011
00:42:25,321 --> 00:42:26,456
just my understanding, during a

1012
00:42:26,456 --> 00:42:28,257
recent City Commission meeting,

1013
00:42:28,257 --> 00:42:29,425
we had brought it up and we

1014
00:42:29,425 --> 00:42:32,160
were told that it was being

1015
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,697
added back to the action plan.

1016
00:42:34,697 --> 00:42:37,499
Am I am I wrong about that? I

1017
00:42:37,499 --> 00:42:39,768
it was discussed, but yeah,

1018
00:42:39,768 --> 00:42:41,503
yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. I'm so

1019
00:42:41,503 --> 00:42:43,673
that was a cr a program that's

1020
00:42:43,673 --> 00:42:45,240
a cra one. And that was the art

1021
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:46,341
trail on the cra side. And what

1022
00:42:46,341 --> 00:42:48,710
we had discussed at the cra

1023
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:50,479
meeting was that initially,

1024
00:42:50,479 --> 00:42:51,948
over a year ago, we took it off

1025
00:42:51,948 --> 00:42:53,515
because costs were going up and

1026
00:42:53,515 --> 00:42:55,417
we weren't sure that we were

1027
00:42:55,417 --> 00:42:56,753
going to be able to pay for

1028
00:42:56,753 --> 00:42:58,860
that. And that subsequent cra

1029
00:42:58,860 --> 00:42:59,187
meetings, we indicated that we

1030
00:42:59,187 --> 00:43:01,890
were actually doing the art

1031
00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:02,457
trail project and that we now

1032
00:43:02,457 --> 00:43:04,126
have to do the guaranteed, I'm

1033
00:43:04,126 --> 00:43:06,280
sorry, we have to, to go out

1034
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,530
and do the, the, the guaranteed,

1035
00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:09,965
the, the gmp for that, the

1036
00:43:09,965 --> 00:43:11,330
guaranteed price from a

1037
00:43:11,330 --> 00:43:13,669
contractor for that. So that

1038
00:43:13,669 --> 00:43:14,970
project is still moving forward.

1039
00:43:14,970 --> 00:43:16,772
I don't believe that project

1040
00:43:16,772 --> 00:43:18,540
was actually on the commission

1041
00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:20,420
annual action plan, was it?

1042
00:43:20,420 --> 00:43:21,944
Natasha. I don't recall in

1043
00:43:21,944 --> 00:43:25,447
terms of the art trail because

1044
00:43:25,447 --> 00:43:27,616
it was a. Right. So so if we if

1045
00:43:27,616 --> 00:43:28,784
we just have a brief cra

1046
00:43:28,784 --> 00:43:30,552
discussion, the cra is doing

1047
00:43:30,552 --> 00:43:31,720
the art trail. That's the trail

1048
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:34,456
that will be throughout the

1049
00:43:34,456 --> 00:43:35,857
whole city. And the next steps

1050
00:43:35,857 --> 00:43:38,727
now are for that. We have, i

1051
00:43:38,727 --> 00:43:40,429
believe, 100%, 100% drawings.

1052
00:43:40,429 --> 00:43:41,430
And the next step now is for

1053
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:43,830
the construction manager at

1054
00:43:44,701 --> 00:43:46,368
risk to actually do to actually

1055
00:43:46,368 --> 00:43:48,170
do the give us the pricing for

1056
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:49,172
that, and then we can go out

1057
00:43:49,172 --> 00:43:50,339
and start constructing that.

1058
00:43:50,339 --> 00:43:52,241
That's great news and I'm glad

1059
00:43:52,241 --> 00:43:54,760
to hear that. And thank you for

1060
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,310
clarifying it for me. I know

1061
00:43:55,310 --> 00:43:57,179
now where it came up, and it

1062
00:43:57,179 --> 00:43:58,247
was while we were doing the

1063
00:43:58,247 --> 00:43:59,348
resident survey, and it was

1064
00:43:59,348 --> 00:44:00,717
something that the residents

1065
00:44:00,717 --> 00:44:03,319
indicated that they wanted. So

1066
00:44:03,319 --> 00:44:04,987
I'm glad to hear. And I don't

1067
00:44:04,987 --> 00:44:08,587
know if this was Doctor Earl's

1068
00:44:08,625 --> 00:44:10,225
idea or Director Finn's idea,

1069
00:44:10,225 --> 00:44:13,225
but it was clearly something

1070
00:44:13,262 --> 00:44:14,964
that the residents love the

1071
00:44:14,964 --> 00:44:17,132
idea of. So I'm glad to hear

1072
00:44:17,132 --> 00:44:18,267
that it's back on and I. And I

1073
00:44:18,267 --> 00:44:20,135
do remember that you saying

1074
00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:21,304
that the cost had gone up and

1075
00:44:21,304 --> 00:44:23,138
that's why you had taken it

1076
00:44:23,138 --> 00:44:24,274
back off, but that it was

1077
00:44:24,274 --> 00:44:26,209
coming back on, and I just

1078
00:44:26,209 --> 00:44:27,376
didn't see it in the, in the

1079
00:44:27,376 --> 00:44:29,512
action plan and was concerned

1080
00:44:29,512 --> 00:44:32,140
that we had we had changed our

1081
00:44:32,140 --> 00:44:33,810
minds there, if I MAY,

1082
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:34,716
Commissioner, just one quick

1083
00:44:34,716 --> 00:44:35,951
comment, just to give full

1084
00:44:35,951 --> 00:44:38,420
credit. So the art trail, the

1085
00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:40,390
concept for a trail that wound

1086
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:41,723
throughout the entire city. In

1087
00:44:41,723 --> 00:44:44,590
all honesty, came from

1088
00:44:44,590 --> 00:44:46,610
Commissioner Lima Tab. Probably

1089
00:44:46,610 --> 00:44:47,960
eight years ago we had

1090
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,530
discussion where she said,

1091
00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:51,990
wouldn't it be great to have

1092
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:52,534
something that ties all of the

1093
00:44:52,534 --> 00:44:54,169
communities together, almost

1094
00:44:54,169 --> 00:44:56,506
probably 8 or 9 years ago now?

1095
00:44:56,506 --> 00:44:58,308
So in all in all honesty, the

1096
00:44:58,308 --> 00:44:59,408
initial suggestion for that

1097
00:44:59,408 --> 00:45:00,809
came from came from

1098
00:45:00,809 --> 00:45:02,440
Commissioner Lima about 8 or 9

1099
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,147
years ago. And I can remember

1100
00:45:05,147 --> 00:45:07,717
him her also talking about a

1101
00:45:07,717 --> 00:45:09,840
safe walking area. Right. I

1102
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,252
think that was Covid maybe

1103
00:45:10,252 --> 00:45:11,687
during Covid that you. So

1104
00:45:11,687 --> 00:45:13,755
that's great news. And it

1105
00:45:13,755 --> 00:45:16,425
actually, if I could go into my

1106
00:45:16,425 --> 00:45:19,928
next item, right. So I shared

1107
00:45:19,928 --> 00:45:22,397
an email about the street

1108
00:45:22,397 --> 00:45:23,498
lighting on in three islands in

1109
00:45:23,498 --> 00:45:24,567
the three island safe

1110
00:45:24,567 --> 00:45:26,567
neighborhood district. And

1111
00:45:27,436 --> 00:45:30,436
these are the streetlights on

1112
00:45:32,107 --> 00:45:35,107
Atlantic shores and on three

1113
00:45:36,112 --> 00:45:38,381
islands, on three islands. So I

1114
00:45:38,381 --> 00:45:41,450
know that this is a this might

1115
00:45:41,450 --> 00:45:43,620
be a funding issue, but it is

1116
00:45:43,620 --> 00:45:45,254
within the safe neighborhood.

1117
00:45:45,254 --> 00:45:48,357
And I know that we are doing a

1118
00:45:48,357 --> 00:45:49,358
lot of safe neighborhood. I

1119
00:45:49,358 --> 00:45:50,492
Commissioner Lazara has brought

1120
00:45:50,492 --> 00:45:52,461
up several times that it is a

1121
00:45:52,461 --> 00:45:53,562
public safety issue. So I think

1122
00:45:53,562 --> 00:45:55,430
it's an important issue, and

1123
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:58,660
I'd like to figure out a way

1124
00:45:58,660 --> 00:46:02,371
for us to to fund that if we

1125
00:46:02,371 --> 00:46:04,540
can, for the next year. Yes,

1126
00:46:04,540 --> 00:46:06,375
mayor, there are programs that.

1127
00:46:06,375 --> 00:46:07,676
And I've ironically, just at

1128
00:46:07,676 --> 00:46:09,278
Florida League of Cities, I

1129
00:46:09,278 --> 00:46:11,880
think Phillips was there. There

1130
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,880
was a couple lighting companies

1131
00:46:16,385 --> 00:46:17,886
that would come in and I. For

1132
00:46:17,886 --> 00:46:19,540
now, I should have brought the

1133
00:46:19,540 --> 00:46:20,889
documents with me, but I didn't

1134
00:46:20,889 --> 00:46:22,892
think about it. I think that

1135
00:46:22,892 --> 00:46:25,794
you can actually f, p and l do

1136
00:46:25,794 --> 00:46:28,330
it as well. But then again, I,

1137
00:46:28,330 --> 00:46:31,534
I'm not sure if what upfront

1138
00:46:31,534 --> 00:46:34,700
costs they will provide for.

1139
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:35,504
And if it is the, if it's like

1140
00:46:35,504 --> 00:46:36,572
type of public private

1141
00:46:36,572 --> 00:46:38,740
partnership where they come in,

1142
00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:41,276
they'll do it and then you

1143
00:46:41,276 --> 00:46:43,450
offset it by paying it out over

1144
00:46:43,450 --> 00:46:45,547
time, you know, kind of we did

1145
00:46:45,547 --> 00:46:46,682
that with energy development

1146
00:46:46,682 --> 00:46:47,849
block grants. We would say,

1147
00:46:47,849 --> 00:46:49,151
guess what, Siemens, you come

1148
00:46:49,151 --> 00:46:50,553
in, you retrofit whatever

1149
00:46:50,553 --> 00:46:52,789
you'll upfront it in the

1150
00:46:52,789 --> 00:46:54,556
savings, end up paying for it.

1151
00:46:54,556 --> 00:46:56,580
So that MAY be a possibility.

1152
00:46:56,580 --> 00:46:57,492
Look at a company like that

1153
00:46:57,492 --> 00:46:58,894
that maybe will do it, but I

1154
00:46:58,894 --> 00:47:00,495
don't know what the dollar

1155
00:47:00,495 --> 00:47:02,198
signs would be to do the

1156
00:47:02,198 --> 00:47:03,932
upfront investment. And then,

1157
00:47:03,932 --> 00:47:05,701
you know, you have a revenue

1158
00:47:05,701 --> 00:47:07,202
source from the district to

1159
00:47:07,202 --> 00:47:08,303
continue to pay for it

1160
00:47:08,303 --> 00:47:10,205
somewhere, as it would be the

1161
00:47:10,205 --> 00:47:11,240
case for Golden Isles if we

1162
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:12,741
eventually do some type of

1163
00:47:12,741 --> 00:47:14,209
decorative lighting throughout

1164
00:47:14,209 --> 00:47:15,944
the community to figure out

1165
00:47:15,944 --> 00:47:17,881
what that looked like. And as a

1166
00:47:17,881 --> 00:47:18,982
matter of fact, you can do it

1167
00:47:18,982 --> 00:47:19,982
before anything else, because

1168
00:47:19,982 --> 00:47:21,817
usually the lighting isn't on

1169
00:47:21,817 --> 00:47:23,385
the sidewalk or the street side.

1170
00:47:23,385 --> 00:47:25,153
It's actually put further away

1171
00:47:25,153 --> 00:47:26,588
from any of those improvements.

1172
00:47:26,588 --> 00:47:28,257
But I just want to I just

1173
00:47:28,257 --> 00:47:29,391
wanted to share that with you.

1174
00:47:29,391 --> 00:47:31,159
That's why I keep kind of

1175
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:32,394
talking about those things. And

1176
00:47:32,394 --> 00:47:33,495
I haven't had a chance to sit

1177
00:47:33,495 --> 00:47:35,163
down with our purchasing

1178
00:47:35,163 --> 00:47:36,365
director and discuss some of

1179
00:47:36,365 --> 00:47:37,466
those opportunities as well and

1180
00:47:37,466 --> 00:47:39,235
what they're going to look like.

1181
00:47:39,235 --> 00:47:40,402
But I think it's doable. But

1182
00:47:40,402 --> 00:47:42,271
it's I don't know if it's

1183
00:47:42,271 --> 00:47:44,172
germane that we have to do it

1184
00:47:44,172 --> 00:47:45,274
today or to make a direction.

1185
00:47:45,274 --> 00:47:46,441
Well, we're just talking about

1186
00:47:46,441 --> 00:47:47,476
budget and it came up during

1187
00:47:47,476 --> 00:47:48,945
the action plan, the

1188
00:47:48,945 --> 00:47:51,345
commissioner action plan and

1189
00:47:51,446 --> 00:47:52,881
the email that I sent to you

1190
00:47:52,881 --> 00:47:55,751
referenced the fact that the

1191
00:47:55,751 --> 00:47:58,530
dpw has already coordinated

1192
00:47:58,530 --> 00:48:00,220
with fpl and identified what

1193
00:48:00,220 --> 00:48:01,957
needs to be done if we want to

1194
00:48:01,957 --> 00:48:04,920
do it. And now it's just a

1195
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,460
matter of and understandably,

1196
00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:07,563
time constraints on the part of

1197
00:48:07,563 --> 00:48:08,731
the dpw staff. I just wanted to

1198
00:48:08,731 --> 00:48:12,000
bring it up for the City

1199
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,435
Commission because I, in a in

1200
00:48:13,435 --> 00:48:14,903
correctly identified that they

1201
00:48:14,903 --> 00:48:15,971
were not in the safe

1202
00:48:15,971 --> 00:48:17,774
neighborhood. They are in the

1203
00:48:17,774 --> 00:48:19,642
three island safe neighborhood

1204
00:48:19,642 --> 00:48:21,643
area. And I just want to clear

1205
00:48:21,643 --> 00:48:24,213
that up and, and believe still

1206
00:48:24,213 --> 00:48:26,448
that it's important that we

1207
00:48:26,448 --> 00:48:30,648
figure out a way to, to get

1208
00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:33,555
them done well. Thank you. This

1209
00:48:33,555 --> 00:48:34,656
doctor Raul, would you like I

1210
00:48:34,656 --> 00:48:36,459
know we're not probably going

1211
00:48:36,459 --> 00:48:39,328
to amend this budget right now,

1212
00:48:39,328 --> 00:48:41,129
but so we have a direction.

1213
00:48:41,129 --> 00:48:42,898
Maybe it's to make a motion to

1214
00:48:42,898 --> 00:48:45,768
direct doctor Earl to work with

1215
00:48:45,768 --> 00:48:47,603
staff, to research viable

1216
00:48:47,603 --> 00:48:49,771
alternatives to fund lighting

1217
00:48:49,771 --> 00:48:51,940
within both districts, and set

1218
00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:55,511
that up as a type of project or

1219
00:48:55,511 --> 00:48:57,679
priority, because the revenue

1220
00:48:57,679 --> 00:48:59,514
stream, if it's being placed in

1221
00:48:59,514 --> 00:49:01,283
there, the revenue stream would

1222
00:49:01,283 --> 00:49:03,510
be paid from the district.

1223
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:05,530
Because currently, like if you

1224
00:49:05,530 --> 00:49:06,255
want a light, I can go and say,

1225
00:49:06,255 --> 00:49:08,900
guess what? I want a light in

1226
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:10,930
front of my house. They'll put

1227
00:49:10,930 --> 00:49:12,270
it in, but then I pay for it.

1228
00:49:12,270 --> 00:49:13,228
It goes on my bill. Yeah. So,

1229
00:49:13,228 --> 00:49:15,300
so okay, so mayor, would that

1230
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:16,164
work? Doctor? I think it's a

1231
00:49:16,164 --> 00:49:17,332
great idea, but we're not in

1232
00:49:17,332 --> 00:49:19,350
the district. My understanding

1233
00:49:19,350 --> 00:49:20,269
the issue this isn't a dollars

1234
00:49:20,269 --> 00:49:22,170
issue. This is a time capacity

1235
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:23,338
issue on the on the part of dpw.

1236
00:49:23,338 --> 00:49:25,741
Right. Well companies come in

1237
00:49:25,741 --> 00:49:27,609
and do it soup to nuts. It's

1238
00:49:27,609 --> 00:49:30,445
not I'm sorry if that's a way

1239
00:49:30,445 --> 00:49:32,281
for us to do it. Correct doctor.

1240
00:49:32,281 --> 00:49:33,715
Yeah I understand the question.

1241
00:49:33,715 --> 00:49:35,617
Like I know Siemens does it.

1242
00:49:35,617 --> 00:49:37,519
Philips does it. Sure. Fpl does

1243
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:38,720
it. I don't know what has the

1244
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,222
best price competitive pricing

1245
00:49:40,222 --> 00:49:41,757
or what it would look like. But

1246
00:49:41,757 --> 00:49:43,910
they do the construction and I

1247
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:44,826
believe all the design of it,

1248
00:49:44,826 --> 00:49:48,426
like it's all upfront and by

1249
00:49:49,965 --> 00:49:51,234
them. So I think. Give us well,

1250
00:49:51,234 --> 00:49:53,136
you can't we can't make a

1251
00:49:53,136 --> 00:49:55,504
motion here. We will go back

1252
00:49:55,504 --> 00:49:57,372
and take a look at the funding,

1253
00:49:57,372 --> 00:49:59,241
take a look at the what we have

1254
00:49:59,241 --> 00:50:00,442
in terms of the funding, and

1255
00:50:00,442 --> 00:50:01,377
come back to the commission

1256
00:50:01,377 --> 00:50:03,278
with a recommendation for how

1257
00:50:03,278 --> 00:50:04,513
we do this. Right. And like I

1258
00:50:04,513 --> 00:50:06,415
said, I don't know if, again,

1259
00:50:06,415 --> 00:50:08,418
it might just be they can do it

1260
00:50:08,418 --> 00:50:10,452
and then it gets paid out, kind

1261
00:50:10,452 --> 00:50:11,620
of like an improvement loan or

1262
00:50:11,620 --> 00:50:13,555
whatever. Okay. Do you want it

1263
00:50:13,555 --> 00:50:15,457
as a form of motion? We can I

1264
00:50:15,457 --> 00:50:16,592
don't even think we can because

1265
00:50:16,592 --> 00:50:17,794
it's a workshop anyway, and we

1266
00:50:17,794 --> 00:50:19,728
don't have the district budget

1267
00:50:19,728 --> 00:50:21,863
in front of us. So go ahead.

1268
00:50:21,863 --> 00:50:23,399
Yeah, that was it. I just

1269
00:50:23,399 --> 00:50:24,866
wanted to make sure that we

1270
00:50:24,866 --> 00:50:27,436
brought that back and gave it

1271
00:50:27,436 --> 00:50:29,204
some attention, since solar

1272
00:50:29,204 --> 00:50:30,940
would be great. I'm all for

1273
00:50:30,940 --> 00:50:32,775
solar. She took a thank you

1274
00:50:32,775 --> 00:50:34,978
because it could be you could a

1275
00:50:34,978 --> 00:50:35,811
company like that, it might be

1276
00:50:35,811 --> 00:50:36,913
something even totally

1277
00:50:36,913 --> 00:50:38,180
different. Yeah. You know, and,

1278
00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:40,315
and a lot some lightings, even

1279
00:50:40,315 --> 00:50:41,984
low volt low voltage. So I

1280
00:50:41,984 --> 00:50:43,586
think it's a, it's not a it's

1281
00:50:43,586 --> 00:50:45,530
not as easy as saying get it

1282
00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:46,990
done. In other words, and we

1283
00:50:46,990 --> 00:50:48,223
know we don't want to pile on,

1284
00:50:48,223 --> 00:50:50,920
but I think it's the timing of

1285
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:51,994
it would be something to look

1286
00:50:51,994 --> 00:50:53,161
at. Yeah, we can, we can do

1287
00:50:53,161 --> 00:50:54,329
this. You know, we did this

1288
00:50:54,329 --> 00:50:55,999
again for lighting throughout

1289
00:50:55,999 --> 00:50:58,234
the city. And we had an

1290
00:50:58,234 --> 00:51:00,502
agreement with well, we did it

1291
00:51:00,502 --> 00:51:03,305
for on the cra side. Yes. And

1292
00:51:03,305 --> 00:51:05,908
we did that for the length and

1293
00:51:05,908 --> 00:51:07,342
breadth of the cra. We worked

1294
00:51:07,342 --> 00:51:09,144
with some partners. We did the

1295
00:51:09,144 --> 00:51:10,547
design. We worked with fpl, I

1296
00:51:10,547 --> 00:51:12,314
believe on the cra side. We had

1297
00:51:12,314 --> 00:51:14,216
a contract. Faith, correct me

1298
00:51:14,216 --> 00:51:15,484
if I'm wrong for like fpl. In

1299
00:51:15,484 --> 00:51:17,320
fact, we did have a contract

1300
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,487
for fpl to help us install all

1301
00:51:18,487 --> 00:51:21,890
of these things. We just have

1302
00:51:21,890 --> 00:51:24,960
to bring the design and then we

1303
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,129
have to pay for maintenance

1304
00:51:27,129 --> 00:51:28,531
afterwards. Correct? Right. So

1305
00:51:28,531 --> 00:51:29,798
correct. So the design and

1306
00:51:29,798 --> 00:51:31,333
maintenance and we have to pay.

1307
00:51:31,333 --> 00:51:32,434
That's how it works. And and

1308
00:51:32,434 --> 00:51:34,269
that's what the cra board

1309
00:51:34,269 --> 00:51:35,771
actually did. So for the. Yes.

1310
00:51:35,771 --> 00:51:37,339
So we can we will explore it

1311
00:51:37,339 --> 00:51:38,507
and and bring something back to

1312
00:51:38,507 --> 00:51:40,409
you. That'd be great. I, you

1313
00:51:40,409 --> 00:51:42,345
know, one of the things I just

1314
00:51:42,345 --> 00:51:45,447
want to mention that I think so

1315
00:51:45,447 --> 00:51:46,515
we have we are assessing this

1316
00:51:46,515 --> 00:51:48,750
three island safe neighborhood

1317
00:51:48,750 --> 00:51:50,118
to enhance the safe

1318
00:51:50,118 --> 00:51:51,253
neighborhood and not doing

1319
00:51:51,253 --> 00:51:52,287
street lights in the three

1320
00:51:52,287 --> 00:51:54,220
island safe neighborhood, I

1321
00:51:54,220 --> 00:51:55,958
think is a gap that we've

1322
00:51:55,958 --> 00:51:57,250
missed. And I think if I were a

1323
00:51:57,250 --> 00:51:58,227
three islands resident and I

1324
00:51:58,227 --> 00:51:59,929
had been assessed and you

1325
00:51:59,929 --> 00:52:01,230
forgot to do street lights, I

1326
00:52:01,230 --> 00:52:02,331
would be a little concerned.

1327
00:52:02,331 --> 00:52:05,331
And it's from my understanding,

1328
00:52:06,335 --> 00:52:08,137
it wasn't an expensive item,

1329
00:52:08,137 --> 00:52:09,905
relatively speaking, but I

1330
00:52:09,905 --> 00:52:11,473
think it's important for us to

1331
00:52:11,473 --> 00:52:13,242
at least identify if we can do

1332
00:52:13,242 --> 00:52:14,309
it. And I think that would be

1333
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:16,111
great, doctor Earl, if you

1334
00:52:16,111 --> 00:52:17,412
could bring it back. And I

1335
00:52:17,412 --> 00:52:19,181
think we can definitely do that,

1336
00:52:19,181 --> 00:52:21,116
that's great. If it's not part

1337
00:52:21,116 --> 00:52:23,510
of the I don't think it is, but

1338
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:24,520
if it's not already part of the

1339
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,452
Safe neighborhood plan. Okay.

1340
00:52:26,856 --> 00:52:30,456
So my next question about the

1341
00:52:31,894 --> 00:52:33,362
budget on the five year plan,

1342
00:52:33,362 --> 00:52:36,962
and I brought this up before,

1343
00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:42,100
so I wanted to ask on this five

1344
00:52:43,438 --> 00:52:46,309
year plan, we used 2.25% as our

1345
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:48,709
estimated annual property tax

1346
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:51,810
increase for every year going

1347
00:52:52,447 --> 00:52:54,249
forward, percent, 2%, 2.25%

1348
00:52:54,249 --> 00:52:56,520
this year and 2% going forward.

1349
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,887
That's correct. Okay. So the

1350
00:52:57,887 --> 00:52:59,288
taxable value increases in the

1351
00:52:59,288 --> 00:53:02,888
past years, I'm just going to

1352
00:53:02,891 --> 00:53:05,291
tell you there were 10.72%,

1353
00:53:06,662 --> 00:53:08,662
17.26%, 9.09%, 8.17%. Those are

1354
00:53:08,997 --> 00:53:10,198
the last few years and then

1355
00:53:10,198 --> 00:53:12,267
2.25% this year. So the simple

1356
00:53:12,267 --> 00:53:14,690
five year average is 9.5%.

1357
00:53:14,690 --> 00:53:17,669
That's the simple average. If I

1358
00:53:18,373 --> 00:53:19,875
throw out that 17.26%, we're at

1359
00:53:19,875 --> 00:53:21,610
7.6%, right? So now we're going

1360
00:53:21,610 --> 00:53:23,445
all the way down to two. Not

1361
00:53:23,445 --> 00:53:25,480
opposed to it. I think it's a

1362
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,150
great, you know, stress test

1363
00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:30,953
case, but I would love to see

1364
00:53:30,953 --> 00:53:33,922
this same thing with 4% and 6%,

1365
00:53:33,922 --> 00:53:35,624
right? Just easy way to do it.

1366
00:53:35,624 --> 00:53:36,725
I don't think that's a

1367
00:53:36,725 --> 00:53:38,627
difficult. And when you mean

1368
00:53:38,627 --> 00:53:40,329
four and 6%, you mean 4% in

1369
00:53:40,329 --> 00:53:41,763
which year annually going

1370
00:53:41,763 --> 00:53:43,966
forward. So we're doing 2%

1371
00:53:43,966 --> 00:53:44,566
annually. Go to 4%. Go to 6%.

1372
00:53:44,566 --> 00:53:46,435
Let's just see what that looks

1373
00:53:46,435 --> 00:53:48,337
like. I think I think it'll be

1374
00:53:48,337 --> 00:53:50,372
a little bit play, isn't it? It

1375
00:53:50,372 --> 00:53:52,307
should be, I hope so. And do

1376
00:53:52,307 --> 00:53:53,475
you want to see the impact of

1377
00:53:53,475 --> 00:53:55,310
that. Is that what you were.

1378
00:53:55,310 --> 00:53:56,511
Yeah. I'm just curious to see

1379
00:53:56,511 --> 00:53:58,313
how it looks. That gives us a

1380
00:53:58,313 --> 00:54:01,313
conservative, a moderate and a

1381
00:54:02,351 --> 00:54:05,351
historical norm. Right. So that

1382
00:54:06,555 --> 00:54:10,155
was one of my other requests.

1383
00:54:10,926 --> 00:54:12,961
Oh, and then so this one I want

1384
00:54:12,961 --> 00:54:14,529
to, I guess I can bring this up

1385
00:54:14,529 --> 00:54:15,698
later because it's not

1386
00:54:15,698 --> 00:54:17,866
specifically on our budget. We

1387
00:54:17,866 --> 00:54:19,768
can't, we're almost into, well,

1388
00:54:19,768 --> 00:54:21,671
now we have 530, so we have

1389
00:54:21,671 --> 00:54:23,206
some time. Keep going. Okay.

1390
00:54:23,206 --> 00:54:24,973
Because this I could bring up

1391
00:54:24,973 --> 00:54:27,142
some things under other two. So

1392
00:54:27,142 --> 00:54:28,744
go ahead. All right. So so one

1393
00:54:28,744 --> 00:54:31,800
of the, one of the questions

1394
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,981
that I had, and I, I'm all for

1395
00:54:32,981 --> 00:54:34,483
us doing stuff at the beach. So

1396
00:54:34,483 --> 00:54:36,418
I want everybody to know that.

1397
00:54:36,418 --> 00:54:38,287
And I voted in favor of all the

1398
00:54:38,287 --> 00:54:39,521
funding. Oh my GOD. Now it's

1399
00:54:39,521 --> 00:54:41,390
like, no, I don't want it. No,

1400
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:42,292
no that's not. Do you have

1401
00:54:42,292 --> 00:54:43,458
buyer's remorse, Commissioner?

1402
00:54:43,458 --> 00:54:44,760
That's not what I'm going to

1403
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,628
say. You say something nice.

1404
00:54:46,628 --> 00:54:48,463
That is not what I'm going to

1405
00:54:48,463 --> 00:54:49,665
say. I'm teasing, but I just

1406
00:54:49,665 --> 00:54:51,567
want to be clear. So when we

1407
00:54:51,567 --> 00:54:52,668
first said, hey, let's do some

1408
00:54:52,668 --> 00:54:54,436
beach activation, it was in

1409
00:54:54,436 --> 00:54:55,938
support of this snack bar. And

1410
00:54:55,938 --> 00:54:57,439
I'm going to say that over and

1411
00:54:57,439 --> 00:54:58,607
over and over again, because

1412
00:54:58,607 --> 00:54:59,708
the snack bar didn't open and

1413
00:54:59,708 --> 00:55:01,677
we're still doing the beach

1414
00:55:01,677 --> 00:55:04,677
activation, not opposed to it.

1415
00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:07,416
Happy to do it. I made a

1416
00:55:07,416 --> 00:55:10,353
recommendation in a very long

1417
00:55:10,353 --> 00:55:11,821
email to the city managers, and

1418
00:55:11,821 --> 00:55:14,821
my apologies to everybody for

1419
00:55:16,792 --> 00:55:19,261
the long email that we we get

1420
00:55:19,261 --> 00:55:21,630
food trucks out there in order

1421
00:55:21,630 --> 00:55:23,966
to offset the fact that we

1422
00:55:23,966 --> 00:55:28,300
don't have a snack bar. So I

1423
00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:29,772
will I will be very open and

1424
00:55:29,772 --> 00:55:31,540
share with everybody that this

1425
00:55:31,540 --> 00:55:33,342
all comes from spending a month

1426
00:55:33,342 --> 00:55:35,210
with my kids going to the beach.

1427
00:55:35,210 --> 00:55:37,145
There are no amenities. You go

1428
00:55:37,145 --> 00:55:38,381
to the beach, you got to bring

1429
00:55:38,381 --> 00:55:41,381
everything with you. Good luck

1430
00:55:42,951 --> 00:55:45,951
buying anything. So so I'm

1431
00:55:47,357 --> 00:55:49,910
still interested in us doing

1432
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:51,226
things that will help us

1433
00:55:51,226 --> 00:55:52,694
activate our beach. And the

1434
00:55:52,694 --> 00:55:54,363
$75,000 that we approved for

1435
00:55:54,363 --> 00:55:55,999
South Beach events. And we have

1436
00:55:55,999 --> 00:55:58,767
another one coming up, I think

1437
00:55:58,767 --> 00:56:00,969
very soon. We also approved the

1438
00:56:00,969 --> 00:56:04,139
so far sounds, which I think is

1439
00:56:04,139 --> 00:56:06,539
part of our 100 year

1440
00:56:07,776 --> 00:56:09,378
anniversary preparations. And

1441
00:56:09,378 --> 00:56:12,378
now we recently just approved,

1442
00:56:12,448 --> 00:56:14,848
I think, $250,000 for furniture

1443
00:56:16,510 --> 00:56:18,654
for the North Beach facility.

1444
00:56:18,654 --> 00:56:20,589
Now, all of those are great as

1445
00:56:20,589 --> 00:56:22,525
long as they all are leading us

1446
00:56:22,525 --> 00:56:23,859
to eventually getting a revenue

1447
00:56:23,859 --> 00:56:25,761
generating tenant into both of

1448
00:56:25,761 --> 00:56:27,162
those facilities. That's the

1449
00:56:27,162 --> 00:56:29,364
goal. That's what we're trying

1450
00:56:29,364 --> 00:56:31,901
to do. I don't want us to to

1451
00:56:31,901 --> 00:56:33,435
spend all this money in order

1452
00:56:33,435 --> 00:56:34,570
to have a good time. Not that

1453
00:56:34,570 --> 00:56:36,672
I'm opposed to having a good

1454
00:56:36,672 --> 00:56:39,474
time, trust me. But I do want

1455
00:56:39,474 --> 00:56:41,276
us to ensure that there is a

1456
00:56:41,276 --> 00:56:42,945
plan, and I believe that there

1457
00:56:42,945 --> 00:56:44,146
is. I just want to state this

1458
00:56:44,146 --> 00:56:45,948
on the record. I have I have

1459
00:56:45,948 --> 00:56:47,150
supported all this stuff and

1460
00:56:47,150 --> 00:56:48,830
I've supported it for the

1461
00:56:48,830 --> 00:56:50,285
reason, very specific reason

1462
00:56:50,285 --> 00:56:51,420
that I want to ensure that this

1463
00:56:51,420 --> 00:56:53,488
eventually will lead to us

1464
00:56:53,488 --> 00:56:54,790
being able to fill both the

1465
00:56:54,790 --> 00:56:56,910
South Beach and North Beach

1466
00:56:56,910 --> 00:56:57,459
facilities with a tenant. And

1467
00:56:57,459 --> 00:56:59,661
this ties back to conversations

1468
00:56:59,661 --> 00:57:01,464
that we had back when we were

1469
00:57:01,464 --> 00:57:02,966
looking for the South Beach

1470
00:57:02,966 --> 00:57:04,600
tenant. So I applaud the city

1471
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,468
for all the work that it's

1472
00:57:06,468 --> 00:57:08,237
doing. I think, Director Shantz,

1473
00:57:08,237 --> 00:57:10,773
you've done a fantastic job

1474
00:57:10,773 --> 00:57:12,841
with the events there. I'm

1475
00:57:12,841 --> 00:57:14,420
excited about. Well, I don't

1476
00:57:14,420 --> 00:57:15,911
know if I'm going to be there

1477
00:57:15,911 --> 00:57:18,347
this weekend. Is it yoga on

1478
00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:20,850
Sunday 30? Yeah. No no no no. I,

1479
00:57:20,850 --> 00:57:24,621
I, I come and have a cup of

1480
00:57:24,621 --> 00:57:26,655
coffee. So I'm, I won't be

1481
00:57:26,655 --> 00:57:28,900
there. 730 but I'm very excited

1482
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:29,157
about that. We're doing things

1483
00:57:29,157 --> 00:57:30,125
and that our North Beach

1484
00:57:30,125 --> 00:57:31,960
facility will actually have

1485
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,128
some activity. And I even went

1486
00:57:33,128 --> 00:57:34,963
to the point where I suggest

1487
00:57:34,963 --> 00:57:36,698
that maybe some of our staff

1488
00:57:36,698 --> 00:57:38,133
should use the second floor as

1489
00:57:38,133 --> 00:57:39,969
offices. Right? And the only

1490
00:57:39,969 --> 00:57:41,471
point is, is in order to get

1491
00:57:41,471 --> 00:57:43,339
usage out of it, right? So that

1492
00:57:43,339 --> 00:57:44,339
people are using it on a

1493
00:57:44,339 --> 00:57:45,407
regular basis, that the

1494
00:57:45,407 --> 00:57:46,508
elevators are working, that the

1495
00:57:46,508 --> 00:57:47,609
air conditioning is working,

1496
00:57:47,609 --> 00:57:50,379
that we have people that are

1497
00:57:50,379 --> 00:57:51,480
utilizing the facility. So I

1498
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,820
can't imagine somebody wouldn't

1499
00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:55,751
want to have an office there. I

1500
00:57:55,751 --> 00:57:56,718
would, but that was just a

1501
00:57:56,718 --> 00:57:58,453
statement I wanted to make

1502
00:57:58,453 --> 00:58:00,123
about beach activation. I meant

1503
00:58:00,123 --> 00:58:01,991
to do under other. But since we.

1504
00:58:01,991 --> 00:58:04,920
It's fine, we have the time.

1505
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:05,728
Sure. I just had a thought on

1506
00:58:05,728 --> 00:58:06,930
that. You done with that one?

1507
00:58:06,930 --> 00:58:08,731
Yes, ma'am. I'm done with it.

1508
00:58:08,731 --> 00:58:10,933
Yes. You know, it occurred to

1509
00:58:10,933 --> 00:58:12,701
me sitting here, you know, we

1510
00:58:12,701 --> 00:58:14,136
we ran out a lot of our

1511
00:58:14,136 --> 00:58:15,538
facilities. We rent them out.

1512
00:58:15,538 --> 00:58:17,340
We have been sitting on that

1513
00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:19,875
asset. It has a kitchen. It has

1514
00:58:19,875 --> 00:58:22,744
a service area. Maybe we look

1515
00:58:22,744 --> 00:58:23,845
at it as a rental, a rental

1516
00:58:23,845 --> 00:58:25,747
opportunity. If somebody wants

1517
00:58:25,747 --> 00:58:28,483
to have a party or an event at

1518
00:58:28,483 --> 00:58:29,651
the beach, like we do at the

1519
00:58:29,651 --> 00:58:31,787
cultural center has a built in

1520
00:58:31,787 --> 00:58:33,222
kitchen, it has built in access.

1521
00:58:33,222 --> 00:58:34,790
We put a little bit more money

1522
00:58:34,790 --> 00:58:36,920
into it. Maybe somebody's going

1523
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,961
to want to have a party there

1524
00:58:38,961 --> 00:58:41,496
or picnic or something and a

1525
00:58:41,496 --> 00:58:43,465
corporate event. So food for

1526
00:58:43,465 --> 00:58:45,100
thought instead of worrying

1527
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:46,235
about one particular vendor,

1528
00:58:46,235 --> 00:58:47,903
because I certainly would rent

1529
00:58:47,903 --> 00:58:49,104
it out for a party. I think

1530
00:58:49,104 --> 00:58:51,240
it's a great gig place. We've

1531
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,307
done that before, I think not

1532
00:58:52,307 --> 00:58:53,442
we had weddings there, right?

1533
00:58:53,442 --> 00:58:55,912
Or something. Are you talking

1534
00:58:55,912 --> 00:58:58,114
North city Future. South. South.

1535
00:58:58,114 --> 00:58:59,514
South. South. City. Because.

1536
00:58:59,514 --> 00:59:00,649
Because North doesn't have a

1537
00:59:00,649 --> 00:59:02,317
kitchen. North doesn't have. No.

1538
00:59:02,317 --> 00:59:03,552
It didn't have the kitchen or

1539
00:59:03,552 --> 00:59:05,320
any of that stuff. But we're

1540
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,422
sitting on a kitchen and an

1541
00:59:06,422 --> 00:59:08,258
asset that's been empty for

1542
00:59:08,258 --> 00:59:09,359
like two years. So and if

1543
00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:12,461
somebody wants to have a party

1544
00:59:12,461 --> 00:59:13,897
or a beach party or have at it.

1545
00:59:13,897 --> 00:59:15,864
No, I think I think those are

1546
00:59:15,864 --> 00:59:17,866
good suggestions. We are. It's

1547
00:59:17,866 --> 00:59:19,234
just like an moment. Like I was

1548
00:59:19,234 --> 00:59:22,234
thinking North Beach too. Okay.

1549
00:59:23,639 --> 00:59:26,141
Go ahead. So South City Beach,

1550
00:59:26,141 --> 00:59:27,943
we we started and I think we

1551
00:59:27,943 --> 00:59:29,913
are going to complete at some

1552
00:59:29,913 --> 00:59:32,913
point I asked director Chance

1553
00:59:33,382 --> 00:59:34,750
to get full commercial fridges,

1554
00:59:34,750 --> 00:59:35,817
stoves, prep areas, everything

1555
00:59:35,817 --> 00:59:37,719
because we're missing all the

1556
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:40,423
equipment. And I think you were

1557
00:59:40,423 --> 00:59:42,258
out there as I toured inside, I

1558
00:59:42,258 --> 00:59:44,160
walked all around it. So we're

1559
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,728
going to damn this. Sorry. I

1560
00:59:46,728 --> 00:59:48,864
also this is a nice spot to

1561
00:59:48,864 --> 00:59:50,966
leverage. I also asked Director

1562
00:59:50,966 --> 00:59:54,237
Chance to see about food trucks

1563
00:59:54,237 --> 00:59:56,105
there on as as basically pop

1564
00:59:56,105 --> 00:59:57,839
ups as well. So basically we're

1565
00:59:57,839 --> 00:59:58,674
trying to outfit because in

1566
00:59:58,674 --> 00:59:59,708
speaking to restaurants, I've

1567
00:59:59,708 --> 01:00:02,108
spoken to restaurants would

1568
01:00:02,145 --> 01:00:05,470
want to come in most of those

1569
01:00:05,470 --> 01:00:06,810
restaurants who, who would

1570
01:00:06,810 --> 01:00:07,916
potentially do pop ups,

1571
01:00:07,916 --> 01:00:09,685
including local restaurants.

1572
01:00:09,685 --> 01:00:11,487
The lack of equipment in there

1573
01:00:11,487 --> 01:00:12,956
is, is one of our restrictions.

1574
01:00:12,956 --> 01:00:14,490
And so I've asked Director

1575
01:00:14,490 --> 01:00:16,925
Chance to go out and she did

1576
01:00:16,925 --> 01:00:17,993
she find some equipment

1577
01:00:17,993 --> 01:00:19,995
telepathic. That's pretty good.

1578
01:00:19,995 --> 01:00:21,263
No no no. So so we're so we're

1579
01:00:21,263 --> 01:00:23,660
doing that. And then we're also

1580
01:00:23,660 --> 01:00:23,766
going to work on. I know

1581
01:00:23,766 --> 01:00:25,200
Commissioner Butler mentioned

1582
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,690
the food trucks as well. So

1583
01:00:27,690 --> 01:00:28,503
we're also going to work on the

1584
01:00:28,503 --> 01:00:29,839
food trucks as well. In terms

1585
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:32,741
of the North City Beach

1586
01:00:32,741 --> 01:00:34,943
facility, we're also just this

1587
01:00:34,943 --> 01:00:37,412
week, because of the upcoming

1588
01:00:37,412 --> 01:00:39,314
events, we've added commercial,

1589
01:00:39,314 --> 01:00:40,716
fridge, commercial, like a prep

1590
01:00:40,716 --> 01:00:43,185
area and everything to that

1591
01:00:43,185 --> 01:00:44,420
facility as well. We do have

1592
01:00:44,420 --> 01:00:46,555
some staff that will be moving

1593
01:00:46,555 --> 01:00:49,555
in there temporarily for about

1594
01:00:50,393 --> 01:00:52,194
six weeks at that location. And

1595
01:00:52,194 --> 01:00:55,194
then we're going to finish

1596
01:00:55,831 --> 01:00:57,566
outfitting the facility with,

1597
01:00:57,566 --> 01:00:59,340
with, with Wi-Fi and everything

1598
01:00:59,340 --> 01:01:00,202
else. I know that Sean has been

1599
01:01:00,202 --> 01:01:01,938
working on, on getting that

1600
01:01:01,938 --> 01:01:05,140
done. So hopefully with all of

1601
01:01:05,140 --> 01:01:07,210
these changes, this is only the

1602
01:01:07,210 --> 01:01:09,479
first step to what you all have

1603
01:01:09,479 --> 01:01:12,347
asked us to do. So the the

1604
01:01:12,347 --> 01:01:14,149
other big part of it was to try

1605
01:01:14,149 --> 01:01:17,850
and combine both locations in

1606
01:01:17,850 --> 01:01:18,687
terms of having an rfp. So, you

1607
01:01:18,687 --> 01:01:19,788
know, we're trying to get the

1608
01:01:19,788 --> 01:01:21,690
first part done, which is to

1609
01:01:21,690 --> 01:01:22,858
activate it. I'm happy to say

1610
01:01:22,858 --> 01:01:24,693
that the events this week are

1611
01:01:24,693 --> 01:01:25,861
sold, not sold out, but the

1612
01:01:25,861 --> 01:01:27,764
events this week are sold out,

1613
01:01:27,764 --> 01:01:28,932
for lack of a better term. The

1614
01:01:28,932 --> 01:01:29,999
ones that all the wellness

1615
01:01:29,999 --> 01:01:31,767
events that we planned, every

1616
01:01:31,767 --> 01:01:33,200
one of those things are now

1617
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,703
sold out. So fingers crossed.

1618
01:01:34,703 --> 01:01:36,138
Hopefully we'll and kudos to to

1619
01:01:36,138 --> 01:01:39,709
the team who's who's working on

1620
01:01:39,709 --> 01:01:43,278
that faith and Kathy and Rachel

1621
01:01:43,278 --> 01:01:45,447
and the rest of them. And, and

1622
01:01:45,447 --> 01:01:47,649
then the big part was just

1623
01:01:47,649 --> 01:01:49,785
waiting for the contract. The

1624
01:01:49,785 --> 01:01:52,185
agreement with Itaru Izumi

1625
01:01:52,221 --> 01:01:55,190
slash related. Now that we have

1626
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:57,360
those parking spaces, well,

1627
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,627
just just to be clear, we have

1628
01:01:58,627 --> 01:02:00,929
we have all the parking spaces,

1629
01:02:00,929 --> 01:02:03,131
but we have less active parking

1630
01:02:03,131 --> 01:02:04,199
spaces than we, than we, we

1631
01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:06,100
need, because there are some

1632
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:08,538
work going on in the garage

1633
01:02:08,538 --> 01:02:10,339
from Beach Club that's taken

1634
01:02:10,339 --> 01:02:11,507
away about 15 of our parking

1635
01:02:11,507 --> 01:02:13,275
spaces, and then we have some

1636
01:02:13,275 --> 01:02:14,510
other internal parking needs in

1637
01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:17,510
terms of the fire department

1638
01:02:17,881 --> 01:02:19,314
and whatnot as well. And so

1639
01:02:19,314 --> 01:02:21,490
working through all of these

1640
01:02:21,490 --> 01:02:22,684
kinds of things, you know, our

1641
01:02:22,684 --> 01:02:24,353
team is also working on coming

1642
01:02:24,353 --> 01:02:25,454
up with a plan to join both

1643
01:02:25,454 --> 01:02:26,555
facilities together from a

1644
01:02:26,555 --> 01:02:28,290
parking perspective. So there's

1645
01:02:28,290 --> 01:02:29,525
a lot of things that our team

1646
01:02:29,525 --> 01:02:32,661
is working on now that we have

1647
01:02:32,661 --> 01:02:34,300
the parking spaces back as well,

1648
01:02:34,300 --> 01:02:35,230
it's going to, you know, this

1649
01:02:35,230 --> 01:02:36,566
is really that was really one

1650
01:02:36,566 --> 01:02:38,367
of our triggers that approval

1651
01:02:38,367 --> 01:02:40,350
from you all to now go out and

1652
01:02:40,350 --> 01:02:42,370
try and find someone because

1653
01:02:42,370 --> 01:02:43,906
now they now we can say we

1654
01:02:43,906 --> 01:02:45,541
actually have parking spaces in

1655
01:02:45,541 --> 01:02:47,410
that facility. So, so that was

1656
01:02:47,410 --> 01:02:48,844
huge. So we are trying to

1657
01:02:48,844 --> 01:02:51,244
implement everything that you

1658
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,483
guys have approved. I know it's

1659
01:02:53,483 --> 01:02:55,318
sometimes in some cases slow

1660
01:02:55,318 --> 01:02:56,786
going, but I think we are we've

1661
01:02:56,786 --> 01:02:58,186
made significant progress. And

1662
01:02:58,186 --> 01:02:59,655
the other delay in the North

1663
01:02:59,655 --> 01:03:02,524
City Beach facility was the

1664
01:03:02,524 --> 01:03:05,610
elevator, which for it being on

1665
01:03:05,610 --> 01:03:06,496
the beach and not an active

1666
01:03:06,496 --> 01:03:08,664
facility that needed to be

1667
01:03:08,664 --> 01:03:09,765
fixed. And again, with your

1668
01:03:09,765 --> 01:03:11,166
with your help, with your

1669
01:03:11,166 --> 01:03:13,402
approvals, we were able to fix

1670
01:03:13,402 --> 01:03:15,171
that on an emergency basis. And

1671
01:03:15,171 --> 01:03:16,371
now we're going to have a major

1672
01:03:16,371 --> 01:03:17,774
overhaul of that elevator

1673
01:03:17,774 --> 01:03:20,208
coming soon as well. So so

1674
01:03:20,208 --> 01:03:21,511
we're so we're doing the things

1675
01:03:21,511 --> 01:03:23,780
and hopefully we'll do the

1676
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:24,980
things a lot faster so you guys

1677
01:03:24,980 --> 01:03:26,648
can be happy. Now. You piqued

1678
01:03:26,648 --> 01:03:28,450
my interest. What are they

1679
01:03:28,450 --> 01:03:30,953
using storage for their own

1680
01:03:30,953 --> 01:03:32,854
construction. Beach club

1681
01:03:32,854 --> 01:03:34,557
they've the parking. No, Kathy.

1682
01:03:34,557 --> 01:03:37,557
They've just blocked off those

1683
01:03:38,260 --> 01:03:40,329
spaces. Come on. Yeah. Oh, it's

1684
01:03:40,329 --> 01:03:41,364
for security. For. So people

1685
01:03:41,364 --> 01:03:42,832
don't damage your cars and

1686
01:03:42,832 --> 01:03:44,399
stuff for safety reasons. Okay,

1687
01:03:44,399 --> 01:03:46,401
so it's about 15 spaces that.

1688
01:03:46,401 --> 01:03:50,100
No worries. No worries for a

1689
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,141
while. You're good. No. Two

1690
01:03:52,141 --> 01:03:53,909
more. So two more because I. Go

1691
01:03:53,909 --> 01:03:55,811
ahead. Do you have one? I know,

1692
01:03:55,811 --> 01:03:58,647
go ahead. So the I don't want

1693
01:03:58,647 --> 01:03:59,748
to slow your roll. Keep going.

1694
01:03:59,748 --> 01:04:01,517
Now we're talking about it

1695
01:04:01,517 --> 01:04:02,619
though. Oh my GOD. I have no

1696
01:04:02,619 --> 01:04:04,386
questions. No. Well, I was

1697
01:04:04,386 --> 01:04:06,255
checking to see if anybody was

1698
01:04:06,255 --> 01:04:08,560
in the queue, so. Water tower.

1699
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,726
Oh my GOD. I can tell you about

1700
01:04:09,726 --> 01:04:10,894
that. Please, I want to oh,

1701
01:04:10,894 --> 01:04:12,694
that's what I was going to

1702
01:04:12,694 --> 01:04:14,631
bring up. Okay, good. Wait a

1703
01:04:14,631 --> 01:04:15,864
minute. I want to hear it. This

1704
01:04:15,864 --> 01:04:17,733
is a great hair moment. Oh my

1705
01:04:17,733 --> 01:04:19,201
GOD. You know, I'm going back

1706
01:04:19,201 --> 01:04:20,802
to flc. You know, I'm strolling

1707
01:04:20,802 --> 01:04:22,704
around and one of the companies

1708
01:04:22,704 --> 01:04:23,973
that we used to use to do all

1709
01:04:23,973 --> 01:04:27,442
the water towers was there. And

1710
01:04:27,442 --> 01:04:28,510
I'm like, you know, and another

1711
01:04:28,510 --> 01:04:30,145
gentleman branched out and did

1712
01:04:30,145 --> 01:04:31,680
his own company. So I'm talking

1713
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,515
to him. He goes, I go, you know,

1714
01:04:33,515 --> 01:04:36,840
we've been trying to get our

1715
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,620
water tower painted for like

1716
01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:41,823
ages. He goes, I am so well

1717
01:04:41,823 --> 01:04:43,725
aware of your water tower that

1718
01:04:43,725 --> 01:04:45,930
when we had our water tower, we

1719
01:04:45,930 --> 01:04:47,229
didn't have we didn't plan our

1720
01:04:47,229 --> 01:04:50,829
water tower to have all the

1721
01:04:50,934 --> 01:04:53,435
things around it. And it's an

1722
01:04:53,435 --> 01:04:54,836
issue. It's like he told me, I

1723
01:04:54,836 --> 01:04:56,472
don't want to have like total

1724
01:04:56,472 --> 01:04:57,607
sticker shock. Like we had the

1725
01:04:57,607 --> 01:04:59,509
other thing with the mooring

1726
01:04:59,509 --> 01:05:01,760
field. But he goes, we can look

1727
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,111
like $1 million to paint just

1728
01:05:03,111 --> 01:05:05,581
to paint the tower because the

1729
01:05:05,581 --> 01:05:07,783
screening and safety and

1730
01:05:07,783 --> 01:05:08,885
security and it has to be

1731
01:05:08,885 --> 01:05:11,190
sandblasted. They have to

1732
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:13,222
secure the hotel, they have to

1733
01:05:13,222 --> 01:05:14,923
secure even beach club, beach

1734
01:05:14,923 --> 01:05:16,391
club, because everything's

1735
01:05:16,391 --> 01:05:19,261
around it. And it's not even

1736
01:05:19,261 --> 01:05:20,830
just about us. It's about

1737
01:05:20,830 --> 01:05:22,931
everything that goes into it.

1738
01:05:22,931 --> 01:05:25,500
But it's millions of dollars.

1739
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:27,636
We awarded it already. Nope. So

1740
01:05:27,636 --> 01:05:29,772
we have we have $4 million. Oh,

1741
01:05:29,772 --> 01:05:30,907
we did okay in it. And now it's,

1742
01:05:30,907 --> 01:05:32,708
it's the execution of that,

1743
01:05:32,708 --> 01:05:33,910
that our team is now about to

1744
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:35,844
work. So good. It's just it's

1745
01:05:35,844 --> 01:05:37,680
in process. Yes. It's. Yeah.

1746
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,182
Money is there. I didn't even

1747
01:05:40,182 --> 01:05:41,283
realize we had awarded or we

1748
01:05:41,283 --> 01:05:43,118
allocated money. We didn't

1749
01:05:43,118 --> 01:05:44,920
award it allocated the money to

1750
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,355
do the project. And to your

1751
01:05:46,355 --> 01:05:47,956
point, it is millions of

1752
01:05:47,956 --> 01:05:49,626
dollars to do that. There was

1753
01:05:49,626 --> 01:05:52,761
not an rfq awarded. I thought

1754
01:05:52,761 --> 01:05:55,364
we did. No no no no no no no.

1755
01:05:55,364 --> 01:05:57,633
It was back in 2025. Well, we

1756
01:05:57,633 --> 01:05:59,301
were talking about lighting and

1757
01:05:59,301 --> 01:06:00,569
it was something we approved

1758
01:06:00,569 --> 01:06:01,470
somebody getting in. Director

1759
01:06:01,470 --> 01:06:03,720
Luis, do you remember cleaning.

1760
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:04,139
And I remember reading all the

1761
01:06:04,139 --> 01:06:06,208
backup material. No I don't

1762
01:06:06,208 --> 01:06:07,376
think. Yeah. My staff is. Yeah,

1763
01:06:07,376 --> 01:06:08,377
they're coming down now because

1764
01:06:08,377 --> 01:06:10,279
sometimes we've done so much.

1765
01:06:10,279 --> 01:06:11,547
It's like, oh, good, I got the

1766
01:06:11,547 --> 01:06:13,415
card. Actually, I was going to

1767
01:06:13,415 --> 01:06:15,284
give you the guys. I don't know

1768
01:06:15,284 --> 01:06:16,418
what it was to talk to him

1769
01:06:16,418 --> 01:06:18,720
about it, but I was like

1770
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,923
sitting I'm like, I remember

1771
01:06:19,923 --> 01:06:21,924
reading the backup about how

1772
01:06:21,924 --> 01:06:23,910
you have to get into the. I was

1773
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:25,562
just, they totally studied it.

1774
01:06:25,562 --> 01:06:26,929
And it has to be upgraded on a

1775
01:06:26,929 --> 01:06:28,131
regular basis. And I thought we

1776
01:06:28,131 --> 01:06:29,932
were doing that in conjunction.

1777
01:06:29,932 --> 01:06:31,330
I thought we were doing that in

1778
01:06:31,330 --> 01:06:33,433
conjunction with our 100 year

1779
01:06:34,871 --> 01:06:36,710
anniversary. Update do we want

1780
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:37,940
an update or what do we want?

1781
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:39,107
Okay, so now we're going to

1782
01:06:39,107 --> 01:06:40,877
we're going to hopefully now

1783
01:06:40,877 --> 01:06:42,110
that we have the city engineer

1784
01:06:42,110 --> 01:06:43,146
and hopefully in the future.

1785
01:06:43,146 --> 01:06:44,846
But we don't want to because

1786
01:06:44,846 --> 01:06:46,480
I'm usually good with numbers.

1787
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,283
And I was thinking we talked

1788
01:06:48,283 --> 01:06:50,419
about 300 and some odd thousand

1789
01:06:50,419 --> 01:06:52,254
dollars for lighting originally,

1790
01:06:52,254 --> 01:06:53,556
and I didn't realize we had

1791
01:06:53,556 --> 01:06:54,823
executed a line item and we

1792
01:06:54,823 --> 01:06:56,491
were already budgeted and it's

1793
01:06:56,491 --> 01:06:57,626
in our budget. Oh, good.

1794
01:06:57,626 --> 01:06:59,162
Because I got the heartburn

1795
01:06:59,162 --> 01:07:01,640
like, oh my GOD, this is it's

1796
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:02,631
in our cip. Okay, good. It's in

1797
01:07:02,631 --> 01:07:06,231
our cip. All right. Thank thank

1798
01:07:06,669 --> 01:07:08,403
you. So good. Thank you. If you

1799
01:07:08,403 --> 01:07:10,305
want to know all about it, I'll

1800
01:07:10,305 --> 01:07:12,709
give you the guy's card. So oh

1801
01:07:12,709 --> 01:07:14,577
my GOD, I want to this there's

1802
01:07:14,577 --> 01:07:16,712
one other topic I just wanted

1803
01:07:16,712 --> 01:07:17,779
to because I was going to talk

1804
01:07:17,779 --> 01:07:19,615
about that under other. Go

1805
01:07:19,615 --> 01:07:23,152
ahead. Oh, you were doing okay.

1806
01:07:23,152 --> 01:07:25,210
So we still have time. So this

1807
01:07:25,210 --> 01:07:28,190
this item I think for me is a

1808
01:07:28,190 --> 01:07:30,260
little bit difficult to open up.

1809
01:07:30,260 --> 01:07:34,460
But so one of the challenges I

1810
01:07:36,899 --> 01:07:40,300
think that we have. There is a,

1811
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:43,706
there isn't a, a, I don't know

1812
01:07:43,706 --> 01:07:45,507
how to say this. So we are the

1813
01:07:45,507 --> 01:07:47,276
number one to me, the number

1814
01:07:47,276 --> 01:07:48,744
one purpose that we have, code

1815
01:07:48,744 --> 01:07:50,744
compliance is for

1816
01:07:51,647 --> 01:07:53,515
beautification. And I've I have

1817
01:07:53,515 --> 01:07:54,918
frankly been talking to. Bless

1818
01:07:54,918 --> 01:07:57,753
you, mayor. Excuse me. Wow,

1819
01:07:57,753 --> 01:07:59,888
that was loud. Wow. So we've

1820
01:07:59,888 --> 01:08:01,324
been talking about code

1821
01:08:01,324 --> 01:08:02,825
compliance and how code

1822
01:08:02,825 --> 01:08:03,859
compliance can contribute to

1823
01:08:03,859 --> 01:08:05,327
beautification in the

1824
01:08:05,327 --> 01:08:07,496
neighborhood, in the cities in

1825
01:08:07,496 --> 01:08:09,264
the city. Since I think it was

1826
01:08:09,264 --> 01:08:10,699
a report, I can't remember the

1827
01:08:10,699 --> 01:08:12,467
name of the company back in

1828
01:08:12,467 --> 01:08:14,202
2006. So this has been a long,

1829
01:08:14,202 --> 01:08:17,802
long time. I mean, well before

1830
01:08:18,273 --> 01:08:20,410
I sat up here. We we recently

1831
01:08:20,410 --> 01:08:22,211
had the two resident surveys

1832
01:08:22,211 --> 01:08:23,679
over a two year period. And

1833
01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:24,746
beautification didn't change,

1834
01:08:24,746 --> 01:08:27,583
right. We didn't see an

1835
01:08:27,583 --> 01:08:29,284
increase in beautification

1836
01:08:29,284 --> 01:08:30,853
during that time period. Over

1837
01:08:30,853 --> 01:08:33,388
the last five years, we've made

1838
01:08:33,388 --> 01:08:35,257
significant investments in code

1839
01:08:35,257 --> 01:08:36,225
compliance. And I think,

1840
01:08:36,225 --> 01:08:37,392
Director Massey, I had

1841
01:08:37,392 --> 01:08:39,228
mentioned to you that I wanted

1842
01:08:39,228 --> 01:08:40,362
to get an electronic copy of

1843
01:08:40,362 --> 01:08:42,231
our budget because one of the

1844
01:08:42,231 --> 01:08:43,799
questions that I had was, what

1845
01:08:43,799 --> 01:08:44,900
is our total code compliance

1846
01:08:44,900 --> 01:08:46,635
current? What is the total

1847
01:08:46,635 --> 01:08:47,869
budget? What how many FTEs do

1848
01:08:47,869 --> 01:08:49,638
we have today and how does that

1849
01:08:49,638 --> 01:08:50,872
compare with five years? And

1850
01:08:50,872 --> 01:08:52,774
this is part of the email. I

1851
01:08:52,774 --> 01:08:53,909
know that I sent you, Doctor

1852
01:08:53,909 --> 01:08:55,644
Earle, and the reason I asked

1853
01:08:55,644 --> 01:08:56,912
for this information is because

1854
01:08:56,912 --> 01:08:58,580
we're not getting the results

1855
01:08:58,580 --> 01:09:00,820
out of code compliance that we

1856
01:09:00,820 --> 01:09:01,817
want. Now, the results that we

1857
01:09:01,817 --> 01:09:03,252
want is beautification, right?

1858
01:09:03,252 --> 01:09:05,387
That's the outcomes that we

1859
01:09:05,387 --> 01:09:07,956
want to get. We, we, we

1860
01:09:07,956 --> 01:09:11,556
received an email that I think

1861
01:09:12,594 --> 01:09:15,594
is, is extraordinary that our

1862
01:09:16,598 --> 01:09:18,100
code increase in cases has

1863
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:19,167
increased dramatically. And

1864
01:09:19,167 --> 01:09:21,236
that's a wonderful thing.

1865
01:09:21,236 --> 01:09:24,720
That's not a bad thing, but it

1866
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,607
should also have a net impact

1867
01:09:25,607 --> 01:09:28,700
on beautification. That's what

1868
01:09:28,111 --> 01:09:29,545
we're doing it for, right. The

1869
01:09:29,545 --> 01:09:30,279
cases should lead to an

1870
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:31,747
improvement beautification. And

1871
01:09:31,747 --> 01:09:34,182
so we're missing something. I

1872
01:09:34,182 --> 01:09:35,984
don't know what it is, but the

1873
01:09:35,984 --> 01:09:37,486
outcomes that we want after

1874
01:09:37,486 --> 01:09:39,555
making massive investments in

1875
01:09:39,555 --> 01:09:41,890
code, not massive. When I say

1876
01:09:41,890 --> 01:09:42,558
massive, if I have my numbers

1877
01:09:42,558 --> 01:09:44,626
correct, and I could very well

1878
01:09:44,626 --> 01:09:47,497
be wrong, when I became a

1879
01:09:47,497 --> 01:09:49,998
commissioner, we had five code

1880
01:09:49,998 --> 01:09:51,466
enforcement officers and we had

1881
01:09:51,466 --> 01:09:53,669
no administrative folks. And

1882
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:55,805
now we have, I don't know, 12

1883
01:09:55,805 --> 01:09:57,390
code officers and at least two

1884
01:09:57,390 --> 01:09:59,439
administrative people. So we've

1885
01:10:00,842 --> 01:10:02,678
more than doubled the code

1886
01:10:02,678 --> 01:10:04,460
department. And we get a

1887
01:10:04,460 --> 01:10:05,547
doubling of the cases now from

1888
01:10:05,547 --> 01:10:06,983
a productivity, you know,

1889
01:10:06,983 --> 01:10:08,784
person per case standpoint.

1890
01:10:08,784 --> 01:10:09,885
That's that's not good, right?

1891
01:10:09,885 --> 01:10:12,540
That's a decrease in

1892
01:10:12,540 --> 01:10:13,822
productivity in cases per code

1893
01:10:13,822 --> 01:10:15,357
officer. But what's more

1894
01:10:15,357 --> 01:10:16,693
important to me is that we're

1895
01:10:16,693 --> 01:10:18,228
not getting the beautification

1896
01:10:18,228 --> 01:10:19,928
results that we want. And I

1897
01:10:19,928 --> 01:10:22,928
know this is a challenging

1898
01:10:23,198 --> 01:10:24,934
thing to measure because it's a

1899
01:10:24,934 --> 01:10:27,469
little bit amorphous. How do

1900
01:10:27,469 --> 01:10:29,304
you measure beautification? But

1901
01:10:29,304 --> 01:10:30,372
something something here,

1902
01:10:30,372 --> 01:10:32,241
obviously, I mean, other than

1903
01:10:32,241 --> 01:10:33,609
the resident survey, which I

1904
01:10:33,609 --> 01:10:35,778
should have came in my speech

1905
01:10:35,778 --> 01:10:36,880
yesterday. No, I'm just

1906
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,140
laughing. Yeah, we can talk

1907
01:10:39,140 --> 01:10:40,582
about that too. So by the way.

1908
01:10:40,582 --> 01:10:42,284
No, because I talked about this,

1909
01:10:42,284 --> 01:10:43,719
I heard good response to I

1910
01:10:43,719 --> 01:10:45,587
didn't mean to interrupt you, I

1911
01:10:45,587 --> 01:10:46,922
apologize. So so this is

1912
01:10:46,922 --> 01:10:48,524
something that I just wanted to

1913
01:10:48,524 --> 01:10:49,592
bring up for the City

1914
01:10:49,592 --> 01:10:50,659
Commission to be aware of,

1915
01:10:50,659 --> 01:10:51,760
because I think it's an

1916
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,528
important item, because it's

1917
01:10:53,528 --> 01:10:54,630
one of the three things that

1918
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:56,632
our residents are asking us to

1919
01:10:56,632 --> 01:10:57,699
do, right? So traffic, flooding,

1920
01:10:57,699 --> 01:10:59,501
beautification, we've got a lot

1921
01:10:59,501 --> 01:11:00,602
of money that's going into

1922
01:11:00,602 --> 01:11:01,670
traffic. Our Department of

1923
01:11:01,670 --> 01:11:03,840
Transportation has already made

1924
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,308
real world results and impact

1925
01:11:05,308 --> 01:11:06,375
for our residents, which I

1926
01:11:06,375 --> 01:11:08,176
congratulate them for. And

1927
01:11:08,176 --> 01:11:10,179
thank you again for that. I

1928
01:11:10,179 --> 01:11:11,747
know we have a ton of money

1929
01:11:11,747 --> 01:11:12,881
going into flooding, right? I

1930
01:11:12,881 --> 01:11:13,950
don't know how we were

1931
01:11:13,950 --> 01:11:15,684
measuring flooding, because I

1932
01:11:15,684 --> 01:11:17,553
think it's important to be able

1933
01:11:17,553 --> 01:11:20,389
to show to residents the actual

1934
01:11:20,389 --> 01:11:23,250
impacts that we're that we're

1935
01:11:23,250 --> 01:11:25,930
that are result from that. But

1936
01:11:25,930 --> 01:11:26,663
but beautification concerns me.

1937
01:11:26,663 --> 01:11:28,197
And I, I honestly don't know

1938
01:11:28,197 --> 01:11:29,464
what the answer is. I don't

1939
01:11:29,464 --> 01:11:31,568
know if it means if we increase

1940
01:11:31,568 --> 01:11:33,369
our landscaping budget or if we

1941
01:11:33,369 --> 01:11:35,571
create a team that goes around

1942
01:11:35,571 --> 01:11:36,972
and does a lot of the small

1943
01:11:36,972 --> 01:11:39,875
jobs that need to be done

1944
01:11:39,875 --> 01:11:41,277
around the city, like painting

1945
01:11:41,277 --> 01:11:43,450
fire hydrants, I don't know. Oh

1946
01:11:43,450 --> 01:11:44,214
my GOD, somebody just asked me

1947
01:11:44,214 --> 01:11:46,348
about it. Yeah, yeah, I hear it

1948
01:11:46,348 --> 01:11:48,830
all the time too. So it sounds

1949
01:11:48,830 --> 01:11:50,850
like such a small thing, but I

1950
01:11:50,850 --> 01:11:51,186
will, I will, I will tell you

1951
01:11:51,186 --> 01:11:53,590
like an example that I thought

1952
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:57,190
was amazing response. A year or

1953
01:11:57,492 --> 01:11:59,294
two ago, I had shown some

1954
01:11:59,294 --> 01:12:01,290
photographs of street signs

1955
01:12:01,290 --> 01:12:02,565
that the city owned, and they

1956
01:12:02,565 --> 01:12:04,700
were rusting and falling down.

1957
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:06,468
And within a week or two,

1958
01:12:06,468 --> 01:12:07,903
doctor Earl, the response was

1959
01:12:07,903 --> 01:12:09,371
amazing. You had people out

1960
01:12:09,371 --> 01:12:10,872
there, they painted them, they

1961
01:12:10,872 --> 01:12:12,308
made them straight again. They

1962
01:12:12,308 --> 01:12:14,276
just little things like that,

1963
01:12:14,276 --> 01:12:15,544
that if it were in my yard, I

1964
01:12:15,544 --> 01:12:17,412
would want to do that, right? I

1965
01:12:17,412 --> 01:12:19,348
would want to clean that stuff

1966
01:12:19,348 --> 01:12:21,583
up. And it made a big impact in

1967
01:12:21,583 --> 01:12:22,718
a very quickly. So I don't know

1968
01:12:22,718 --> 01:12:24,853
what the answer is. I don't

1969
01:12:24,853 --> 01:12:27,122
know how we move forward, but I

1970
01:12:27,122 --> 01:12:29,158
think it's a it's a it's a it's

1971
01:12:29,158 --> 01:12:31,260
an important gap that we need

1972
01:12:31,260 --> 01:12:33,896
to figure out how to address in

1973
01:12:33,896 --> 01:12:34,963
order to deliver on this third

1974
01:12:34,963 --> 01:12:37,767
item that our residents are

1975
01:12:37,767 --> 01:12:39,235
asking us to are saying is most

1976
01:12:39,235 --> 01:12:40,903
important for them. Okay, mayor,

1977
01:12:40,903 --> 01:12:42,537
I will shut up. I'm done. Thank

1978
01:12:42,537 --> 01:12:45,374
you very much for your patience.

1979
01:12:45,374 --> 01:12:47,910
Actually, it like to wrap and

1980
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:49,110
this is how I phrased it

1981
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:50,946
yesterday and thought about it

1982
01:12:50,946 --> 01:12:53,649
to me. And I keep saying it's

1983
01:12:53,649 --> 01:12:55,830
called curb curb appeal and

1984
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:56,885
what code enforcement is

1985
01:12:56,885 --> 01:12:58,721
important. It stops when the

1986
01:12:58,721 --> 01:13:00,789
sidewalk, when where the

1987
01:13:00,789 --> 01:13:02,958
sidewalk ends. That's where it

1988
01:13:02,958 --> 01:13:05,358
is involved with public

1989
01:13:08,765 --> 01:13:09,933
property. The idea of even just

1990
01:13:09,933 --> 01:13:11,667
replacing and getting rid of

1991
01:13:11,667 --> 01:13:13,135
the clutter on the roadway,

1992
01:13:13,135 --> 01:13:14,903
cleaning the roadways I brought

1993
01:13:14,903 --> 01:13:16,673
up, you know, even power

1994
01:13:16,673 --> 01:13:18,875
washing, making sure that we're

1995
01:13:18,875 --> 01:13:21,900
doing those things. And I don't

1996
01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:23,409
know how that translates,

1997
01:13:23,545 --> 01:13:25,314
translates into actionable

1998
01:13:25,314 --> 01:13:26,982
items. I'll give you an example.

1999
01:13:26,982 --> 01:13:28,917
When I grew up, the sidewalk

2000
01:13:28,917 --> 01:13:30,719
was forced to maintain, even if

2001
01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:32,621
we had a swale, you had to cut

2002
01:13:32,621 --> 01:13:33,689
the grass, you had to clean the

2003
01:13:33,689 --> 01:13:35,557
sidewalk. You had to do

2004
01:13:35,557 --> 01:13:38,328
everything you had to do. Right.

2005
01:13:38,328 --> 01:13:40,429
Okay, now we're not in urban

2006
01:13:40,429 --> 01:13:41,530
America. We're no, we're not in

2007
01:13:41,530 --> 01:13:43,650
suburban America. We're in

2008
01:13:43,650 --> 01:13:44,833
urban America the other day,

2009
01:13:44,833 --> 01:13:46,668
and I know it might be a little

2010
01:13:46,668 --> 01:13:48,637
long winded. I was working out

2011
01:13:48,637 --> 01:13:49,771
at Oasis. I was looking down on

2012
01:13:49,771 --> 01:13:51,974
the street and that property

2013
01:13:51,974 --> 01:13:54,109
owner sweeps actually the

2014
01:13:54,109 --> 01:13:55,945
street. Their maintenance goes

2015
01:13:55,945 --> 01:13:58,113
out, scrubs the sidewalk. I

2016
01:13:58,113 --> 01:14:00,716
mean, granted, it's a new area,

2017
01:14:00,716 --> 01:14:02,484
right? Sweeps the sidewalk. And,

2018
01:14:02,484 --> 01:14:04,586
you know, I basically said, you

2019
01:14:04,586 --> 01:14:06,356
know, this is a joint effort.

2020
01:14:06,356 --> 01:14:08,156
People have to contribute to

2021
01:14:08,156 --> 01:14:10,325
making sure. But more

2022
01:14:10,325 --> 01:14:12,127
importantly, residents need to

2023
01:14:12,127 --> 01:14:13,996
understand what we can control

2024
01:14:13,996 --> 01:14:14,998
and what we can't control. So

2025
01:14:14,998 --> 01:14:16,765
if somebody's not going to do

2026
01:14:16,765 --> 01:14:17,866
it and we're going to code

2027
01:14:17,866 --> 01:14:19,668
enforce them and they're not

2028
01:14:19,668 --> 01:14:20,736
going to clean it and just

2029
01:14:20,736 --> 01:14:21,870
ignore it, it's still not

2030
01:14:21,870 --> 01:14:24,270
getting done. So code

2031
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,576
enforcement is a tool, but we

2032
01:14:26,576 --> 01:14:28,210
can find and find and find. But

2033
01:14:28,210 --> 01:14:29,845
that means the job is not

2034
01:14:29,845 --> 01:14:31,947
getting done. So that has to go

2035
01:14:31,947 --> 01:14:34,830
back to the policy. Now like

2036
01:14:34,830 --> 01:14:35,985
you said, we staff's been great.

2037
01:14:35,985 --> 01:14:38,221
They cleaned up the baskets on

2038
01:14:38,221 --> 01:14:40,255
a one a and the trash cans and

2039
01:14:40,255 --> 01:14:43,292
all that stuff. So I think it's

2040
01:14:43,292 --> 01:14:44,527
a multifaceted type of approach

2041
01:14:44,527 --> 01:14:46,728
and means different things to

2042
01:14:46,728 --> 01:14:48,630
different people. You know, I

2043
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:49,932
mean, we drive through Golden

2044
01:14:49,932 --> 01:14:51,333
Beach all the time. I mean, you

2045
01:14:51,333 --> 01:14:53,235
know, it's wonderful. They have

2046
01:14:53,235 --> 01:14:54,604
a beautiful one way corridor.

2047
01:14:54,604 --> 01:14:56,738
That's what they have to

2048
01:14:56,738 --> 01:14:58,540
maintain. Aventura. Aventura

2049
01:14:58,540 --> 01:15:00,420
has a ton of condos. Think

2050
01:15:00,420 --> 01:15:03,246
about what they have in the

2051
01:15:03,246 --> 01:15:05,814
public realm to take care of a

2052
01:15:05,814 --> 01:15:07,583
lot different than us. We have

2053
01:15:07,583 --> 01:15:09,384
much more public realm when it

2054
01:15:09,384 --> 01:15:10,786
comes to even Pembroke Road,

2055
01:15:10,786 --> 01:15:12,589
Hallandale Beach Boulevard, all

2056
01:15:12,589 --> 01:15:14,457
these roadways, and it costs

2057
01:15:14,457 --> 01:15:16,258
money to maintain them. So

2058
01:15:16,258 --> 01:15:18,194
maybe, you know, we have to

2059
01:15:18,194 --> 01:15:20,229
maybe sit down, maybe we do our

2060
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:22,665
own exercise to say, let's get

2061
01:15:22,665 --> 01:15:24,466
every bus shelter replaced.

2062
01:15:24,466 --> 01:15:26,268
Let's look at cleaning, you

2063
01:15:26,268 --> 01:15:28,668
know, cleaning the streets,

2064
01:15:28,804 --> 01:15:30,372
doing those types of things.

2065
01:15:30,372 --> 01:15:31,907
But that's definitely that goes

2066
01:15:31,907 --> 01:15:34,209
back to general fund. It goes

2067
01:15:34,209 --> 01:15:35,978
back to investments, street

2068
01:15:35,978 --> 01:15:38,247
signs, all the street signs are

2069
01:15:38,247 --> 01:15:40,247
our responsibility. Hallandale

2070
01:15:41,149 --> 01:15:42,851
Beach Boulevard, it's fdot. We

2071
01:15:42,851 --> 01:15:44,286
can't even pave it. The ones

2072
01:15:44,286 --> 01:15:46,154
that are, you know what I mean?

2073
01:15:46,154 --> 01:15:47,556
So and that's what I talked

2074
01:15:47,556 --> 01:15:48,957
about. So if you talk about it

2075
01:15:48,957 --> 01:15:51,193
conscientiously and say we

2076
01:15:51,193 --> 01:15:52,928
don't a1 a we can partner with.

2077
01:15:52,928 --> 01:15:55,831
We invested money there years

2078
01:15:55,831 --> 01:15:56,798
ago, redeveloping the street

2079
01:15:56,798 --> 01:15:58,433
lighting. We did everything

2080
01:15:58,433 --> 01:16:00,350
down there. Right. It's been a

2081
01:16:00,350 --> 01:16:01,938
while, right? Maybe it needs a

2082
01:16:01,938 --> 01:16:03,305
little a little bit more

2083
01:16:03,305 --> 01:16:05,540
facelift, maybe a little bit

2084
01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:06,408
more landscaping. But those are

2085
01:16:06,408 --> 01:16:08,378
million dollar projects.

2086
01:16:08,378 --> 01:16:10,580
They're not like little, you

2087
01:16:10,580 --> 01:16:12,415
know, the signs. But getting

2088
01:16:12,415 --> 01:16:14,216
back to the science, it's not

2089
01:16:14,216 --> 01:16:15,584
our responsibility to replace

2090
01:16:15,584 --> 01:16:17,586
every sign on Hallandale Beach

2091
01:16:17,586 --> 01:16:19,421
Boulevard. That's not what they

2092
01:16:19,421 --> 01:16:20,589
did. And that's not what they

2093
01:16:20,589 --> 01:16:21,690
did. They did it on Golden

2094
01:16:21,690 --> 01:16:23,425
Isles Drive. And I'm saying,

2095
01:16:23,425 --> 01:16:24,626
that's good, that's good. And

2096
01:16:24,626 --> 01:16:26,428
it was it really made a huge

2097
01:16:26,428 --> 01:16:27,596
difference. But I agree with

2098
01:16:27,596 --> 01:16:29,565
you, mayor. I don't know what

2099
01:16:29,565 --> 01:16:30,767
the answer is. So and so I hear

2100
01:16:30,767 --> 01:16:31,733
you, but maybe strategically

2101
01:16:31,733 --> 01:16:33,602
when we're not worried about

2102
01:16:33,602 --> 01:16:35,804
all the moving parts with

2103
01:16:35,804 --> 01:16:37,606
property tax and, you know, I

2104
01:16:37,606 --> 01:16:39,742
encourage people go online, see

2105
01:16:39,742 --> 01:16:41,244
what see what is your

2106
01:16:41,244 --> 01:16:42,978
responsibility. But some of

2107
01:16:42,978 --> 01:16:44,446
those things, yes, we can do

2108
01:16:44,446 --> 01:16:45,847
better. The curb appeal,

2109
01:16:45,847 --> 01:16:48,384
cleaning it up, doing the bus

2110
01:16:48,384 --> 01:16:50,886
shelters, getting rid of the

2111
01:16:50,886 --> 01:16:52,540
million little advertising

2112
01:16:52,540 --> 01:16:54,230
things, that kind of stuff. So

2113
01:16:54,230 --> 01:16:55,892
I think we set in play some of

2114
01:16:55,892 --> 01:16:57,590
the stuff that will be real,

2115
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:59,294
but I don't think we're not

2116
01:16:59,294 --> 01:17:00,963
going to change. And I'll shout

2117
01:17:00,963 --> 01:17:02,397
it out and it's horrible. Old

2118
01:17:02,397 --> 01:17:04,633
building where Harry's building

2119
01:17:04,633 --> 01:17:06,802
it. That whole building needs a

2120
01:17:06,802 --> 01:17:08,437
facade replacement. Yeah. But I,

2121
01:17:08,437 --> 01:17:09,638
you know, and it's ugly, so.

2122
01:17:09,638 --> 01:17:12,174
But you're going through other

2123
01:17:12,174 --> 01:17:14,743
areas that aren't 100 years old.

2124
01:17:14,743 --> 01:17:16,446
They're not as urban as us. Or

2125
01:17:16,446 --> 01:17:17,914
there are different type of

2126
01:17:17,914 --> 01:17:20,115
community that was with plan

2127
01:17:20,115 --> 01:17:21,617
design community. So it is a

2128
01:17:21,617 --> 01:17:23,318
difficult obviously, our focus

2129
01:17:23,318 --> 01:17:24,853
should be on the homeless to

2130
01:17:24,853 --> 01:17:25,954
homeless all over the place and

2131
01:17:25,954 --> 01:17:27,624
trash and the shopping carts.

2132
01:17:27,624 --> 01:17:28,957
So yeah, I mean that. So it's

2133
01:17:28,957 --> 01:17:29,559
really bad if we're just

2134
01:17:29,559 --> 01:17:31,126
talking about beautification,

2135
01:17:31,126 --> 01:17:32,294
obviously, what, what do we

2136
01:17:32,294 --> 01:17:34,129
have control over and what we

2137
01:17:34,129 --> 01:17:35,230
can, what we can influence. And,

2138
01:17:35,230 --> 01:17:36,299
and maybe this should be a

2139
01:17:36,299 --> 01:17:38,699
workshop. Maybe, maybe we

2140
01:17:39,735 --> 01:17:41,169
should sit down and, and get

2141
01:17:41,169 --> 01:17:42,972
somebody who actually is an

2142
01:17:42,972 --> 01:17:44,406
expert on, on tying these two

2143
01:17:44,406 --> 01:17:45,507
things together. We've made

2144
01:17:45,507 --> 01:17:46,909
enormous investments. I support

2145
01:17:46,909 --> 01:17:48,343
those investments and code

2146
01:17:48,343 --> 01:17:49,811
compliance. I just we're not

2147
01:17:49,811 --> 01:17:52,348
getting we're not getting the

2148
01:17:52,348 --> 01:17:53,820
outcomes that we wanted.

2149
01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:54,584
They're doing better because

2150
01:17:54,584 --> 01:17:56,984
they're foreclosing. Again, you

2151
01:17:56,985 --> 01:17:58,820
lost the component of how our

2152
01:17:58,820 --> 01:17:59,888
legal department is moving on

2153
01:17:59,888 --> 01:18:00,957
foreclosure. I understand the

2154
01:18:00,957 --> 01:18:02,891
benefit that we're getting out

2155
01:18:02,891 --> 01:18:03,993
of it. And I'm not I'm not

2156
01:18:03,993 --> 01:18:05,940
opposed to all of those

2157
01:18:05,940 --> 01:18:06,963
benefits out of it. We just

2158
01:18:06,963 --> 01:18:07,896
need to figure out how to

2159
01:18:07,896 --> 01:18:09,970
affect this beautification

2160
01:18:09,970 --> 01:18:11,340
thing so that two years from

2161
01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:12,301
now or a year from now, when we

2162
01:18:12,301 --> 01:18:13,336
do a resident survey, people

2163
01:18:13,336 --> 01:18:14,136
are saying, yeah, Hallandale

2164
01:18:14,136 --> 01:18:15,103
really has improved

2165
01:18:15,103 --> 01:18:16,905
significantly in that third

2166
01:18:16,905 --> 01:18:18,240
metric that is so important to

2167
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,709
our residents. Yeah. So I'm

2168
01:18:19,709 --> 01:18:21,878
feeling you. I just talked

2169
01:18:21,878 --> 01:18:23,679
about it yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.

2170
01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:25,514
So we're good. Yes, ma'am.

2171
01:18:25,514 --> 01:18:26,915
Thank you. Talked about that. I

2172
01:18:26,915 --> 01:18:28,830
think we're good. I think we

2173
01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:29,851
can take a pause for ten

2174
01:18:29,851 --> 01:18:31,587
minutes. Give everybody a break.

2175
01:18:31,587 --> 01:18:33,355
Anybody else for budget. Oh and

2176
01:18:33,355 --> 01:18:35,524
great job on the budget again.

2177
01:18:35,524 --> 01:18:36,992
Thank you very much to all of

2178
01:18:36,992 --> 01:18:38,600
you. So I know you guys I

2179
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:39,862
usually give you everybody

2180
01:18:39,862 --> 01:18:41,698
props. I'm a little tired today

2181
01:18:41,698 --> 01:18:42,832
so yeah. Okay. Thank you very

2182
01:18:42,832 --> 01:18:45,832
much. Thank you doctor. We're

2183
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,668
going to take a recess. Thank