[9:26] Sorry. Good afternoon. I'd like
[9:28] to call to order a special
[9:30] budget workshop of the city of
[9:32] Hallandale Beach. Today is
[9:34] Wednesday, AUGUST 19th, 2026.
[9:36] The time is 4:12 P.M. Could I
[9:38] have a roll call, please? Mayor
[9:39] Cooper. Present. Vice mayor
[9:41] Lazarus. Absent. Commissioner
[9:42] Adams. Yes. Commissioner.
[9:43] Butler here. Commissioner Lima
[9:45] here. City manager. City
[9:47] attorney. Marino. MADAM Mayor,
[9:49] you have a quorum. Thank you,
[9:50] MADAM Clerk. Before we rise for
[9:51] the Pledge of Allegiance. I
[9:55] would like to call to mind a
[9:57] dear friend of Powell in this
[9:59] city who had passed away
[10:01] recently. Kenny Cohen, if
[10:03] you're not familiar with him,
[10:04] he's been in front of us a
[10:05] couple of times. He works
[10:07] directly with the schools. He
[10:10] had passed away. Our prayers go
[10:12] out to his family and everyone
[10:14] that he's touched here in the
[10:16] community. And we also call to
[10:17] mind the continued war in the
[10:19] Middle East and Ukraine and all
[10:20] our armed forces that are
[10:23] fighting overseas, putting
[10:24] themselves in harm's way to
[10:26] protect people in harm's way.
[10:28] And I've always called to mind
[10:30] our first responders here in
[10:32] our city, county, state and
[10:33] nation that protect and defend
[10:36] us every day. A moment of
[10:52] silent prayer, please.
[10:57] Thank
[11:01] you. Commissioner, to lead us
[11:04] in the pledge, please. The
[11:06] United States of America and to
[11:07] the Republic for which it
[11:10] stands. One nation under GOD,
[11:12] indivisible, with liberty and
[11:16] justice for all. Okay. We have
[11:18] anybody signed up for public
[11:19] participation? No, MADAM Mayor,
[11:21] no, we do not. And we don't
[11:23] have any change of the order of
[11:24] business. No, MADAM Mayor, so
[11:27] we will have at it. All right.
[11:28] Thank you very much, MADAM
[11:30] Mayor. And good afternoon,
[11:32] honorable commissioners. So we
[11:34] are here for our well, not our
[11:36] final, but one of our close to
[11:38] final budget hearings. I'm
[11:40] going to ask Director Massey to
[11:42] come and lead us through. We
[11:44] are going to present to you the
[11:47] framework for what will be at
[11:48] the official hearing on the
[11:51] 14th and the 28th. I want to
[11:53] thank staff very much for all
[11:55] of their hard work, because it
[12:01] has been an effort behind the
[12:02] scenes to ensure that we are
[12:03] able to present to the
[12:05] Commission not only another
[12:08] balanced budget. We've had to
[12:09] make some very difficult
[12:11] decisions throughout this
[12:12] process. I want you all to know
[12:14] that. But again, staff has done
[12:15] a tremendous job in getting us
[12:18] to this point, and I am happy
[12:22] to say that we we are going to
[12:25] recommend the rollback rate.
[12:26] That's what this budget is
[12:29] structured for. So I'm sure at
[12:30] the time that we are in in this
[12:32] state's history with what might
[12:33] happen in NOVEMBER, we are
[12:35] probably one of the few cities
[12:37] in the state who will be doing
[12:40] that. So it's it's a testament,
[12:42] again, to your leadership
[12:43] commission and your trust of
[12:46] staff to continue to do the
[12:48] right thing from a fiscal
[12:49] perspective. So, Director
[12:51] Massey, if you could, thank you
[12:52] so much. City manager, doctor
[12:54] Earl. Good evening, mayor, vice
[12:55] mayor, commissioners and City
[12:57] manager, members of the public.
[12:58] Today, we're presenting the
[13:00] City Manager recommended budget
[13:01] and financial Plan for fiscal
[13:03] year 27. This presentation
[13:05] reflects the updates and
[13:06] changes made since the prior
[13:09] budget workshops from JUNE 22nd,
[13:11] and provides the current path
[13:16] towards adoption. Tonight's
[13:17] presentation will cover four
[13:19] main areas. First, where we are
[13:22] in the budget timeline. Current
[13:23] situation. Second, the proposed
[13:25] changes to recommended budget.
[13:27] Third, the proposed millage and
[13:28] finally, the recommended five
[13:29] year financial plan through
[13:32] fiscal year 31. The goal is to
[13:33] provide a clear picture of the
[13:35] 27 budget and the longer
[13:38] financial outlook. The budget
[13:40] process began in JANUARY with
[13:41] budget planning and continue
[13:43] with the department's
[13:45] submissions in FEBRUARY. City
[13:46] manager's office reviews the
[13:48] budget in APRIL, and we have
[13:50] commission workshops in MAY,
[13:52] JUNE, AUGUST 5th and today,
[13:53] AUGUST 19th. The next formal
[13:55] steps are the first and second
[13:56] readings for adoption of the
[13:57] millage and budget on SEPTEMBER
[13:59] 14th and 28th. Once adopted,
[14:01] the 27 budget will take effect
[14:09] on OCTOBER 1st, 2026. The main
[14:10] message on this slide on slide
[14:12] four, is that the 27 budget
[14:14] tentative budget is balanced in
[14:16] the General Fund. Both revenues
[14:17] and expenditures total
[14:20] approximately $134 million.
[14:21] There is no projected general
[14:24] fund shortfall for fy 27. The
[14:25] balanced budget reflects the
[14:26] proposed changes from the city
[14:28] Manager's recommended budget we
[14:30] provided on JUNE 22nd, reduces
[14:31] the proposed millage, the
[14:33] rollback rate, and still
[14:34] maintains the city's focus on
[14:36] long term financial planning
[14:37] and the potential impacts of
[14:43] future property tax reform.
[14:44] This next section walks us
[14:45] through the proposed changes to
[14:47] the City Manager recommended
[14:49] budget. These updates reflect
[14:51] refined estimates, updated fund
[14:53] level activity and additional
[14:54] staff reviews since the prior
[14:57] version of the budget. Is there
[14:59] a question? No, no. Okay. We're
[15:01] good, we're good. I have no
[15:05] button for it on slide six.
[15:06] Wait, I'm on slide six. Slide
[15:10] five. Hold on a second. Slide
[15:14] six. The general fund, which is
[15:16] the city's primary operating
[15:18] fund, supports core services
[15:19] including public safety,
[15:21] general government parks,
[15:22] community service and other
[15:24] city wide functions. On slide
[15:25] six, you will see that we
[15:28] propose the millage at 7.3848
[15:30] on JUNE 22nd. Today, we're
[15:33] proposing a rollback rate of
[15:35] 7.3189. That is an impact of
[15:36] $443,000. So on this slide we
[15:39] have 993,000 reduction in
[15:40] general fund. That's due to the
[15:42] rollback rate. And we moved
[15:44] some items from the general
[15:45] fund to the developer Agreement
[15:46] fund, as we felt it was best
[15:48] suited there. There's details
[15:51] on slide six of the differences
[15:53] in the general fund salaries
[15:54] and benefits. We had slight
[15:56] adjustments of 152,000
[15:57] transfers out. That's the
[15:59] decreased contribution to the
[16:02] renewal and replacement fund.
[16:04] Slide seven provides you with
[16:06] the detail version of those
[16:09] items. B is so contract. We
[16:10] received a few weeks ago that
[16:14] the bso contract increased by
[16:15] $372,000. That is due to the
[16:17] impact of the increased frs
[16:19] contribution on the city side.
[16:21] So we received a revised
[16:23] consideration letter from bso
[16:26] and that impact was $370,000.
[16:28] The tif payment to the cra is
[16:31] reduced by $156,000. That is
[16:32] due to the rollback rate that
[16:35] impact their transfer to
[16:38] transportation fund. That
[16:43] difference. I'm sorry. Hold on
[16:44] a second. Transfer
[16:46] transportation fund. That is
[16:48] because we increased the
[16:51] roadway improvement project,
[16:53] and we also removed the fec
[16:55] lease because that is no longer
[16:57] a viable option for the city at
[16:58] this time. So that's the
[17:00] difference. Impact there for
[17:02] transportation fund, we also
[17:04] reduced the contribution to the
[17:06] renewal and replacement fund.
[17:12] We had identified. What we what
[17:14] we identified that we were
[17:16] going to smooth out the r&r
[17:18] fund, and we used those dollars
[17:19] to fund more immediate
[17:21] priorities such as roadway
[17:23] improvement, funding, the bso
[17:24] contract, and rolling back the
[17:28] knowledge. So the total
[17:29] reduction to the general fund
[17:31] from the proposed recommended
[17:39] budget is $993,000. Slide eight.
[17:41] We're on special revenue funds.
[17:42] There are some changes. The
[17:44] special revenue funds, we
[17:45] reduced, the renewal
[17:48] replacement fund, small changes
[17:49] to three islands in Golden
[17:50] Isles. That's based on the JULY
[17:52] 1st taxable value that came out,
[17:55] the cemetery fund. We did add
[17:56] $75,000 to cemetery fund for
[17:58] the records and asset
[18:01] management project. Down on
[18:05] slide eight, I just. Yes, we
[18:07] removed the fec lease payment
[18:08] and increased roadway
[18:09] improvements for the permit
[18:10] inspection fund, the building
[18:12] fund. We did add marketing for
[18:18] a pilot program. On slide nine.
[18:22] We did add two positions. This
[18:23] slide highlights the strategic
[18:25] personnel updated funded by the
[18:27] utility funds. This budget adds
[18:29] two utility engineer design
[18:31] professional positions. These
[18:32] are senior level positions
[18:34] intended to strengthen in-house
[18:36] design and project management
[18:37] capacity for major utility
[18:41] capital improvements. Just to
[18:44] confirm, and I know I asked you,
[18:45] doctor Earl, about this. This
[18:46] would be kind of putting in
[18:48] place that construction
[18:49] management component of
[18:51] projects throughout the city.
[18:53] Correct. And by also being able
[18:55] to design some of our projects
[18:57] in-house, we hope to move
[18:59] faster and also save a lot of
[19:00] money as well. So it's going to
[19:02] be where we still use
[19:03] consultants, but we're going to
[19:05] try and take over as much as we
[19:06] can internally just to drive
[19:07] these projects home faster.
[19:10] Okay. Thank you. Sorry for the
[19:13] interruption, MISS Mason. Slide
[19:14] ten. We have no proposed
[19:16] changes to the enterprise fund
[19:17] at this time. Those funds
[19:19] include sanitation, stormwater
[19:24] and the utility fund. Other
[19:27] governmental funds. On slide 11,
[19:29] the proposed budget is $31
[19:31] million, a decrease of $86,000
[19:33] from the Developer Agreement
[19:34] Fund. Most of these funds
[19:36] remain unchanged. The Debt
[19:37] Service Fund has a minor
[19:40] increase of $700, and that.
[19:43] Slide 11. Total proposed budget
[19:46] across all fund groups is $251
[19:47] million. That includes
[19:49] enterprise funds,
[19:49] Intergovernmental Special
[19:52] Revenue and the general Fund.
[19:55] The general fund represents
[19:56] 53.44% of the total budget.
[19:59] Enterprise funds represent
[20:01] 25.52% and so forth. This
[20:02] summary reinforces that the
[20:04] overall changes are targeted
[20:05] and primarily reflect
[20:07] refinements to assumptions and
[20:08] fund specific adjustments,
[20:11] rather than a broad reduction
[20:25] in service levels. The city is
[20:28] proposing a millage rate of
[20:30] 7.3189 for fy 27. This reflects
[20:33] a decrease of 0.0660 mills in
[20:35] the operating millage, and a
[20:37] decrease of 0.0053 mills for
[20:39] debt service. This chart shows
[20:40] the city's millage trend over
[20:44] time, including a decrease from
[20:48] 7.3848 in 26 to the proposed
[20:50] 7.3189 in 27. The proposed rate
[20:51] supports a balanced general
[20:52] fund budget, while reducing the
[20:54] military and recognizing
[20:55] affordable concerns for
[20:57] property owners. If we had not
[20:59] decreased the millage rate to
[21:00] the rollback rate, an average
[21:01] single family homeowner would
[21:03] have paid approximately $30
[21:12] more. The final section is a
[21:13] recommended five year financial
[21:14] plan. I know we've gone through
[21:16] this a few times before, but
[21:17] we're going to take some time
[21:19] on it today. Again, this
[21:20] section is important because
[21:22] the 27 budget is balanced, but
[21:24] the city we need to plan for
[21:25] future structural pressures,
[21:27] property tax reform, public
[21:29] safety costs, pensions and
[21:31] capital needs. The five year
[21:32] plan includes several revenue
[21:34] assumptions for property tax
[21:36] reform. The model assumes a
[21:37] $150,000 homestead exemption
[21:40] impact beginning in fy 28. The
[21:42] $250,000 homestead exemption
[21:44] impact in 29 and future years,
[21:45] and a reduction in the
[21:48] commercial property cap from
[21:50] 10% to 5%. Ad valorem revenue
[21:52] is budgeted at 2% growth for fy
[21:54] 28 and future years with fy 27
[21:58] based on the bcc estimate of 2%,
[22:00] 2.25%. The plan also includes
[22:02] the increased fire assessment
[22:05] rate in fy 27, with estimated
[22:06] additional revenue of
[22:08] approximately 400 approximately
[22:11] $800,000. All other revenues
[22:15] are based on recent trends. For
[22:15] expenditure assumptions. The
[22:18] plan includes a 5.5% increase
[22:19] for non police bargaining
[22:21] employees and fy 27 and
[22:23] subsequent years made up of a
[22:25] 3% Cola and a 2.5% merit
[22:27] assumption for police
[22:28] bargaining employees. The plan
[22:30] assumes an 8% increase in 27 in
[22:32] subsequent years, made up of a
[22:34] 3% Cola and 5% merit assumption.
[22:36] These assumptions are intended
[22:37] to reflect anticipated
[22:38] personnel costs growth, while
[22:40] giving the city a realistic
[22:47] long term forecast. The plan
[22:48] also assumes a 5% annual
[22:49] increase for police and fire
[22:52] pensions from fy 27 through fy
[22:55] 31. It also assumes a 10.2%
[22:56] increase for health insurance
[22:58] in fy 27 and subsequent years.
[23:01] For bso, the plan includes a 27
[23:02] consideration proposal and a 5%
[23:04] increase in subsequent years.
[23:05] These items are significant.
[23:07] Cost drivers are important to
[23:08] include in the long term
[23:13] outlook. On slide 19. This is
[23:15] the five year financial plan.
[23:16] This slide brings together the
[23:19] five year general fund forecast.
[23:21] The fy 27 budget is balanced
[23:22] with revenues and expenditures
[23:25] showing both at $134 million.
[23:27] Under. The assumptions shown
[23:29] for fy 28 has a small projected
[23:32] surplus of $268,000 beginning
[23:34] in fy 29. The model shows a
[23:36] projected shortfalls of
[23:39] approximately 4.6 million in 5
[23:40] point 8,000,009.8 million
[23:43] through fy 31. The reserve
[23:44] section shows that the city
[23:45] begins the forecast period with
[23:47] strong unassigned fund balance,
[23:48] but reserves decline over the
[23:50] long term if projected gaps are
[23:53] not addressed. This is why the
[23:55] five year plan is being
[23:56] presented alongside. The annual
[23:57] budget provides us time to plan
[23:59] early, evaluate strategies and
[24:02] avoid making reactive decisions
[24:07] later. The next steps are the
[24:09] two formal public hearings. On
[24:10] SEPTEMBER 14th, we will hold
[24:11] the first public hearing to set
[24:12] the tentative millage and
[24:14] budget. On SEPTEMBER 28th, the
[24:16] city will hold the final public
[24:17] hearing and consider adoption
[24:20] of the 27 budget. I do want to
[24:21] add that the Trim notices are
[24:23] being mailed out this week. If
[24:24] you go online, you should see
[24:26] your trim notice online right
[24:28] now. And not to forget that we
[24:31] did add the three islands item
[24:34] to the trim. Stormwater is now
[24:36] also being added to trim, so if
[24:37] there's a substantial increase,
[24:38] it's because of those items
[24:40] that are on there. And that
[24:42] concludes the presentation.
[24:44] Cool. I don't have any
[24:47] questions at this point.
[24:48] Commissioner Butler, you're
[24:53] recognized. Thank you. Okay. I
[24:55] have a couple of items I just
[24:56] wanted to get some
[24:59] clarification on if I could. So
[25:01] I so some of my questions are
[25:02] going to be focused on these
[25:04] three priorities that I know
[25:05] keep coming back up about
[25:06] traffic, flooding and
[25:07] beautification. So you
[25:08] mentioned that we're adding
[25:09] additional money to the
[25:11] Department of Transportation.
[25:15] What what is that funding and
[25:17] 50,000. Yeah, added $500,000 to
[25:19] the roadway and street
[25:20] improvement project. And so is
[25:22] that is that intended to
[25:25] improve traffic? No, it's
[25:28] intended to address the streets
[25:29] and roadways in the city to
[25:32] repay them. So we increased
[25:34] roadway improvements by
[25:35] $150,000. Did we not also put
[25:36] additional money in the
[25:37] Department of Transportation?
[25:39] Did I did I misunderstand? Yes.
[25:40] We did not put additional money
[25:42] in the Department of
[25:43] Transportation. This additional
[25:44] money into transportation fund.
[25:46] All right. Fund includes
[25:48] streets, roadway. Okay, I
[25:50] misunderstood it, so I'm sorry.
[25:52] Bill. Quick bill. So tied to
[25:54] quick bill. No, that is not
[25:55] tied to quick build. Oh, okay.
[25:57] All right. So so these are for
[25:58] increased roadway improvements.
[26:00] So that's part of our street
[26:01] repaving program. That's
[26:03] correct. All right. So I just I
[26:04] just wanted to I wanted to get
[26:06] into a couple of questions
[26:07] about this because I, doctor
[26:09] Earl and I shared an email back
[26:10] and forth that's been going on
[26:12] for quite some time. And I just
[26:15] want to kind of air this out on
[26:16] the city commission so we make
[26:18] sure we're all on the same page
[26:22] here. Right? So last NOVEMBER,
[26:24] we were provided an email about
[26:27] the status of the street
[26:28] repaving program. Now, this
[26:29] program, I think started in
[26:32] 2023. Doctor Earl. All right.
[26:33] So we've had this program now
[26:37] operating for three years. And
[26:39] in NOVEMBER we were sent a list
[26:41] of streets that are being
[26:43] repaved. And my question was,
[26:45] what is the prioritization? How
[26:47] are we prioritizing? How are we
[26:49] identifying streets? I know the
[26:50] same issue just came up about a
[26:52] month ago during a City
[26:56] commission meeting. So the
[26:58] concern that I have is that
[26:59] since NOVEMBER, I still haven't
[27:01] received anything that
[27:03] indicates how we're identifying
[27:05] streets and how we're repaving
[27:07] streets. So we're putting a, I
[27:08] don't know, a million and a
[27:09] half. I don't know what the
[27:11] number is today, a million and
[27:12] a half into this program. I
[27:14] know we did for the last three
[27:16] years. This year, maybe another
[27:17] million or million and a half
[27:18] into street repaving. And I
[27:20] still don't have a way of
[27:23] telling my residents that ask
[27:24] when their street is going to
[27:26] be repaved and what the
[27:28] schedule is going forward. Now,
[27:29] I understand that we have a lot
[27:31] going on, and I know that
[27:32] there's a lot happening, but
[27:33] this is something that has been
[27:35] going on since NOVEMBER of last
[27:37] year. And so I just want to
[27:38] make sure that we're all on the
[27:40] same page that that, you know,
[27:41] when we first approved this, I
[27:44] went back and I pulled the, the
[27:47] original presentation that we
[27:49] had about the street
[27:51] resurfacing. And I, and I agree
[27:52] with it wholeheartedly. So one
[27:54] of the challenges is of
[27:56] inadequate planning. That was
[27:57] the presentation that we had
[27:59] for the renewal and replacement
[28:01] program. And one of the
[28:02] challenges for inadequate
[28:03] planning, which I agree,
[28:05] financial instability due to
[28:06] reactive spending, service
[28:08] delivery disruptions, increased
[28:10] public dissatisfaction,
[28:11] escalation of long term costs
[28:13] from emergency repairs. I agree
[28:15] with all of that. And so the
[28:16] solution that we had been
[28:20] presented and proposed to us
[28:22] was to adopt a proactive,
[28:24] multi-year planning policy. So
[28:26] that's really what I'm asking
[28:28] us to do, is to do exactly what
[28:29] we suggested that we were going
[28:34] to do. And the, the heartburn
[28:36] that I had with this really is
[28:38] that we have been selecting
[28:40] streets for three years. And I
[28:41] just want to know what process
[28:43] we've been using to select
[28:44] streets for the last three
[28:45] years. I don't need to know
[28:47] that we have a whole new
[28:48] process. I don't need to know
[28:49] formalized process. I just need
[28:52] or or something that is
[28:53] particularly formalized. I just
[28:55] need to know what we've done.
[28:57] And I assume that we have a
[29:01] process. It MAY not be a pretty
[29:02] process. It MAY not be a
[29:05] perfect process, but we need to
[29:07] have a process that we can
[29:08] share with our residents. And I
[29:10] think I think waiting almost a
[29:12] year to get that information on
[29:13] a program that's been running
[29:16] for three years. I'm not asking
[29:18] this to be a priority. I just
[29:20] want to make sure that this is
[29:22] clear, that my my fellow
[29:24] commissioners are are hearing
[29:26] what I'm asking for and why I'm
[29:28] asking for it. And I just think
[29:29] it's an important issue that we
[29:34] need to need to address. So I'm
[29:37] going to leave that there.
[29:39] We've we've had extensive back
[29:40] and forth. And I just, you know,
[29:42] I feel like I try to get these
[29:43] things resolved without
[29:44] bringing them up during a City
[29:47] Commission meeting and airing
[29:48] our dirty laundry, so to speak,
[29:51] in public. So that's the first
[29:52] item that I wanted to talk
[29:54] about. And that's the street
[29:57] repaving program. Yes, ma'am. I
[29:59] know you've asked, and, you
[30:01] know, I've even dug up some old
[30:04] records if it to get clear and
[30:07] concise, you're really is it
[30:08] possible? I guess the question
[30:10] is, doctor, is it possible to
[30:12] list every street that we have
[30:14] paved and just have a program
[30:17] of. When the next. Just a list
[30:18] of what streets are queued. And
[30:20] again, because I know the
[30:21] original plan had a map, it had
[30:23] all the documentation on it. It
[30:25] was different color codes for
[30:26] different years. You know, it
[30:29] was a single snapshot of that.
[30:31] And, you know, I don't know if
[30:34] it's just the basis of
[30:35] presentation and this is what
[30:37] it is because kudos, we did all
[30:39] these streets. I know my street
[30:40] isn't paved yet because we have
[30:42] work under it, you know, and a
[30:43] lot of times people ask, I say,
[30:45] well, let me see if more than
[30:47] likely has something
[30:49] underground, their water, sewer,
[30:50] wastewater or something
[30:51] happening here. But let's
[30:53] figure out what it was because,
[30:54] you know, I have one, two. I
[30:56] had one that I've been asking
[30:58] for for a while that ironically,
[30:59] it was a dead end and I don't
[31:01] think it was on the plan for a
[31:03] while. So maybe it's just if
[31:05] I'm hearing you properly, even
[31:07] just an Excel sheet of the
[31:09] inventory of what we did,
[31:10] what's still in the pipeline,
[31:12] and maybe a time frame for it.
[31:13] Is that simplifying your
[31:14] request? Yeah, let me just I
[31:16] just want to know if it's not,
[31:17] then correct it because that's
[31:19] what I'm hearing. Well, let me
[31:21] and let me just say yes. And I
[31:22] want to I want to add some
[31:24] additional context to that
[31:25] because you're right, that
[31:26] that's that seems like it
[31:28] should be available. This is
[31:31] the note that we had from the,
[31:34] at the time, the dpw director.
[31:37] So the note was roadway
[31:38] evaluations were conducted
[31:39] through field assessments by
[31:41] the streets Division and
[31:42] documented through the city's
[31:44] gis roadway inventory and
[31:46] internal maintenance tracking
[31:47] systems. Due to licensing
[31:49] issues, we're unable to access
[31:50] our gis system to provide the
[31:51] tracking maps. We have been
[31:53] informed by it. The issue is
[31:54] resolved and they will provide
[31:56] the maps from fiscal year 22
[31:57] through 25 once the licenses
[31:59] are reissued. So that was in
[32:01] APRIL of 26. They said that
[32:02] roadway selections were
[32:04] resurfaced based on field
[32:05] observations and several
[32:07] condition indicators, including
[32:09] the frequency and severity of
[32:10] potholes, alligator cracking
[32:12] and structural pavement fatigue,
[32:14] longitudinal and transverse
[32:16] cracking, edge failures, base
[32:17] deterioration, drainage related
[32:19] pavement stress, overall ride
[32:20] quality, resident service
[32:21] requests, and maintenance
[32:22] history. That's a lot. I just
[32:24] said a whole lot of information,
[32:26] but clearly there was something
[32:27] they did something and this was
[32:29] from APRIL of this year. And I
[32:30] understand there's been
[32:31] turnover, but we have a program
[32:33] that's been ongoing for three
[32:34] years, and I assume we're going
[32:36] to continue to do we have more
[32:38] streets to do, I hope, but I
[32:40] don't know. I literally I have
[32:41] a resident that I can't even
[32:43] tell them when their street is
[32:44] going to be repaved or if it's
[32:47] being repaved or if it's even
[32:49] someday will be repaved. So yes,
[32:50] mayor, I agree with everything
[32:53] you just said and I'm asking
[32:56] just that we we provide I don't
[32:57] need us to go out and hire a
[32:58] consultant, put together a
[33:00] whole new program. I don't need
[33:01] us to spend more money on this.
[33:03] I just need to understand what
[33:04] the program that we've been
[33:06] using for three years and, and
[33:07] how that applies for the next
[33:09] year or two to the streets that
[33:10] we still have to repave, which
[33:12] I understand we have quite a
[33:14] few still left. Okay, doctor.
[33:16] Roll through. Doctor. So I'm
[33:17] happy that Commissioner Butler
[33:20] read that because what he read
[33:21] is a response to the question
[33:23] of how did we evaluate the
[33:24] streets. So everything
[33:25] Commissioner Butler just read
[33:26] is exactly what we've said for
[33:29] three years in terms of how we
[33:31] actually evaluated the streets.
[33:32] We started this process over
[33:34] three years ago. And at that
[33:36] point, this was a this was a
[33:37] project that at that time, in
[33:39] the middle of everything else
[33:41] that we were doing, we said
[33:44] that we would now take on under
[33:45] recommendation from
[33:46] Commissioner Butler that we
[33:48] would take on the repaving of,
[33:50] of, of our streets throughout
[33:52] our city. Now, this commission
[33:54] will remember that we have not
[33:57] paved or paved our streets for
[33:59] decades. And so we had to
[34:00] quickly pull something together
[34:02] in terms of how do we evaluate
[34:03] the worst streets that we have
[34:05] in our city. We put together
[34:06] what was initially an eight
[34:09] year program that we were able
[34:10] to condense down to, to now
[34:12] what's roughly a three year
[34:13] program, because initially we
[34:15] were looking to deal with these
[34:17] streets that we had not dealt
[34:20] with for decades over an eight
[34:23] year period of time, our team
[34:27] worked extremely hard to get
[34:29] that down from eight years down
[34:33] to three. Where we are today is
[34:34] we've been given regular
[34:35] updates in the past with the
[34:37] commission. In terms of all the
[34:38] streets that we were doing, we
[34:41] are at the end of those streets
[34:42] now in terms of what was given
[34:44] in APRIL, between APRIL and
[34:45] today, in fact, between MARCH
[34:48] and today, we've had
[34:50] significant turnover in our
[34:51] Department of Public Works, and
[34:53] we have lost the people who
[34:56] were literally doing this
[34:59] street program. And what I have
[35:01] asked this commission for is
[35:03] for time, so that we can deal
[35:07] with our internal issues.
[35:09] Remembering that our team has
[35:11] been doing the work and has not
[35:13] stopped doing the work. But
[35:16] there is a transition period
[35:18] internally that we have to deal
[35:20] with. And so, yes, is the
[35:22] commission going to get a whole
[35:25] new slew of streets that we are
[35:27] going to do? Yes. Will the
[35:29] residents get a response to
[35:30] every single thing that they
[35:34] ask today? The answer is no,
[35:37] because our team is working
[35:38] hard. They are burning it at
[35:41] both ends. Again, let me say it
[35:43] on the record. We took what was
[35:45] an eight year program and
[35:47] turned it into a three year
[35:48] program, and our team has been
[35:51] working extremely hard. I don't
[35:53] sit here not wanting to give
[35:57] the commission information. But
[35:59] we are literally in a
[36:00] transition period and I have
[36:01] said we will get the
[36:03] information I need to get the
[36:05] people on board who are going
[36:06] to take over this program. We
[36:08] have not shied away from
[36:10] anything that this commission
[36:15] has asked us to do. Now, jt, if
[36:19] you if you can, I know you guys
[36:21] have we are closing out the
[36:23] streets that we provided to the
[36:25] Commission three years ago,
[36:26] correct? Correct. Yes. We have
[36:30] we have put those on gis let
[36:33] level gis layers on our map so
[36:35] I can provide that to you as
[36:36] the program. Dear. What I
[36:38] wanted to do was what we had
[36:39] originally programed here, and
[36:41] then have another layer that
[36:42] would be the years in which
[36:43] they were actually constructed.
[36:46] So you could see if there's any
[36:49] streets that we did extra. So
[36:50] planned for the eight year
[36:52] program completed in three. We
[36:54] do have a list that I'm working
[36:58] with right now on the next five
[36:59] years. And I know that Charles
[37:00] was also working on this when
[37:02] Charles was here. Correct.
[37:04] Charles, who is no longer here,
[37:05] right, was the primary contact
[37:07] for this program. And Charles
[37:08] was Charles and I are still
[37:10] working on that list. And
[37:11] Charles, even though he's not
[37:15] here, is working with jt on on
[37:16] trying to get this thing
[37:18] together. Go ahead. Jt yes. So
[37:19] we have the next five years.
[37:22] What I wanted to do is put
[37:23] lengths attached to it. I have
[37:25] a list of roads, but I wanted
[37:27] to update that like we did the
[37:28] first five years to give us
[37:30] linear feet of paving surface
[37:32] that we need to do. And then I
[37:33] wanted to compare that one more
[37:35] time to any known water, sewer,
[37:36] stormwater projects that we're
[37:37] going to have on those roads.
[37:39] So I could give doctor Earl a
[37:40] complete list of what the plan
[37:44] is going to be, focusing on 27
[37:45] first, and then making sure
[37:48] that all the out years are, are,
[37:51] are carefully considered in
[37:53] conjunction with the other
[37:54] multiple projects that we have
[37:56] throughout the city. Same type
[37:57] of thing that we did the last
[37:59] time, but now we have more
[38:01] information on the stormwater
[38:03] from the, the stormwater master
[38:05] plan being developed, the force
[38:06] mains and the water lines that
[38:09] we're looking to do. So it will
[38:12] be based on very similar
[38:13] conditional assessments by our
[38:16] team. Internally. We did
[38:20] consider going out to a cna
[38:23] company to see if they could
[38:24] add some value to our list once
[38:29] we came up with it. But that we
[38:30] haven't brought that to doctor
[38:31] Earl yet. No, we did. You. I
[38:33] said, no, we can do this
[38:35] internally. Yeah. Did Robert
[38:36] bring that to you? That was
[38:38] that was done by the previous.
[38:41] Okay. So long story short, the
[38:43] list is getting close to being
[38:44] finalized. We're going to do
[38:46] the same thing we did the last
[38:48] time, put it on a gis map layer
[38:50] so that you can see it by
[38:51] section of the quadrants. We're
[38:52] going to do a multi quadrant
[38:55] approach each year. Again going
[38:57] forward for the next five years.
[38:58] And then from there we'll see
[39:00] how much is left after that of
[39:01] the city. And then we'll end up
[39:04] doing a maintenance program to
[39:05] maintain the roads in the
[39:06] satisfactory or better
[39:08] condition going forward with
[39:09] our annual maintenance program.
[39:11] So first is to get the roads in
[39:12] satisfactory condition for the
[39:14] ones that aren't, and then to
[39:15] do whatever we have to do to
[39:17] maintain those so that they
[39:18] don't degrade and we have to go
[39:20] into the subbase of the roads,
[39:22] and it costs three to 4 or 5
[39:24] times more than just milling
[39:25] and resurfacing on a regular
[39:27] scheduled basis. So we are
[39:29] working on that plan. Charles
[39:31] is still involved, and as soon
[39:32] as the new director comes in
[39:34] and as soon as the city
[39:37] engineer gets, you know, the
[39:38] opportunity to continue to look
[39:40] at this program, we'll bring it
[39:41] back to the city manager, to
[39:46] the city commission. Good, good.
[39:49] Thank you. So I doctor Earl, I
[39:51] just want to be clear that I am
[39:52] very supportive of the work
[39:55] that the city has been done
[39:58] doing and that the I fully
[39:59] support, obviously, repaving
[40:02] the streets. My my concerns are
[40:04] just that we have a three year
[40:06] program. This is an item that I
[40:07] requested originally in
[40:08] NOVEMBER of last year. So we're
[40:10] coming up on a full year of
[40:12] asking for information of how
[40:13] we're doing something that
[40:14] we've been doing for three
[40:16] years. So while I fully
[40:17] appreciate all the turnover,
[40:18] and I certainly have been very
[40:20] patient, as you've seen in my
[40:22] emails, I certainly haven't
[40:24] brought this up for the entire
[40:26] city commission. But I think I
[40:28] think it's something that the
[40:29] residents deserve to know. And
[40:31] I still have the resident, you
[40:33] know, who still asks me all the
[40:35] time about their roadways, what
[40:38] road it is. I don't know, off
[40:40] the top of my head, but I'm not
[40:41] going to know. I don't mean to
[40:43] pry, because I have somebody
[40:44] too, and I wonder if it's the
[40:46] same one that had the dead end
[40:48] road that hasn't been done yet.
[40:49] I'm only asking because I keep
[40:51] asking that road too, because I
[40:52] keep hearing about it. So the
[40:54] other thing I just wanted to
[40:58] ask. So. We reduced the r&r
[41:00] fund by $1 million. We did
[41:02] reduce the r&r fund by $1
[41:05] million. So is there anything
[41:07] that we have pulled out of what
[41:09] we're doing? Is there a
[41:11] reduction in what we're doing?
[41:12] Is that why did what's the
[41:14] what's driving the reduction?
[41:16] So we had said money. So we had
[41:17] set dollars aside for the
[41:18] facilities assessment. But that
[41:19] assessment is still underway.
[41:21] So instead of holding dollars
[41:22] in the r&r fund for an
[41:24] assessment that is not yet
[41:25] complete, we made the decision
[41:27] to take those dollars and use
[41:29] them to fund the roadway
[41:32] improvement in the fund, and
[41:34] also use it to fund the gap for
[41:36] the bso contract and roll back
[41:37] the millage. So the r&r fund is
[41:39] is funded. We just set those
[41:40] dollars aside for the
[41:41] assessment, but since those
[41:42] assessment numbers have not
[41:45] come back yet, we made that
[41:46] decision in terms of the
[41:47] proposed budget, proposed
[41:48] budget, proposed budget. The
[41:50] current budget has the r&r
[41:51] dollars in it, and we're using
[41:52] those dollars to fund
[41:54] continuous projects. Okay.
[41:57] Thank you. So there are two
[41:59] items that I wanted to bring up.
[42:02] So we had a conversation about
[42:06] the annual commission or action
[42:08] plan. One of the items that we
[42:09] talked about was the green
[42:12] pathway. I had had requested.
[42:14] That item seems to have dropped
[42:16] from it. I forgot all about it,
[42:18] and I just wanted to ask if I
[42:20] could. Now, I did send an email
[42:21] asking for an update. I didn't
[42:23] get a response, so I want to
[42:25] just my understanding, during a
[42:26] recent City Commission meeting,
[42:28] we had brought it up and we
[42:29] were told that it was being
[42:32] added back to the action plan.
[42:34] Am I am I wrong about that? I
[42:37] it was discussed, but yeah,
[42:39] yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. I'm so
[42:41] that was a cr a program that's
[42:43] a cra one. And that was the art
[42:45] trail on the cra side. And what
[42:46] we had discussed at the cra
[42:48] meeting was that initially,
[42:50] over a year ago, we took it off
[42:51] because costs were going up and
[42:53] we weren't sure that we were
[42:55] going to be able to pay for
[42:56] that. And that subsequent cra
[42:58] meetings, we indicated that we
[42:59] were actually doing the art
[43:01] trail project and that we now
[43:02] have to do the guaranteed, I'm
[43:04] sorry, we have to, to go out
[43:06] and do the, the, the guaranteed,
[43:08] the, the gmp for that, the
[43:09] guaranteed price from a
[43:11] contractor for that. So that
[43:13] project is still moving forward.
[43:14] I don't believe that project
[43:16] was actually on the commission
[43:18] annual action plan, was it?
[43:20] Natasha. I don't recall in
[43:21] terms of the art trail because
[43:25] it was a. Right. So so if we if
[43:27] we just have a brief cra
[43:28] discussion, the cra is doing
[43:30] the art trail. That's the trail
[43:31] that will be throughout the
[43:34] whole city. And the next steps
[43:35] now are for that. We have, i
[43:38] believe, 100%, 100% drawings.
[43:40] And the next step now is for
[43:41] the construction manager at
[43:44] risk to actually do to actually
[43:46] do the give us the pricing for
[43:48] that, and then we can go out
[43:49] and start constructing that.
[43:50] That's great news and I'm glad
[43:52] to hear that. And thank you for
[43:54] clarifying it for me. I know
[43:55] now where it came up, and it
[43:57] was while we were doing the
[43:58] resident survey, and it was
[43:59] something that the residents
[44:00] indicated that they wanted. So
[44:03] I'm glad to hear. And I don't
[44:04] know if this was Doctor Earl's
[44:08] idea or Director Finn's idea,
[44:10] but it was clearly something
[44:13] that the residents love the
[44:14] idea of. So I'm glad to hear
[44:17] that it's back on and I. And I
[44:18] do remember that you saying
[44:20] that the cost had gone up and
[44:21] that's why you had taken it
[44:23] back off, but that it was
[44:24] coming back on, and I just
[44:26] didn't see it in the, in the
[44:27] action plan and was concerned
[44:29] that we had we had changed our
[44:32] minds there, if I MAY,
[44:33] Commissioner, just one quick
[44:34] comment, just to give full
[44:35] credit. So the art trail, the
[44:38] concept for a trail that wound
[44:40] throughout the entire city. In
[44:41] all honesty, came from
[44:44] Commissioner Lima Tab. Probably
[44:46] eight years ago we had
[44:47] discussion where she said,
[44:48] wouldn't it be great to have
[44:51] something that ties all of the
[44:52] communities together, almost
[44:54] probably 8 or 9 years ago now?
[44:56] So in all in all honesty, the
[44:58] initial suggestion for that
[44:59] came from came from
[45:00] Commissioner Lima about 8 or 9
[45:02] years ago. And I can remember
[45:05] him her also talking about a
[45:07] safe walking area. Right. I
[45:09] think that was Covid maybe
[45:10] during Covid that you. So
[45:11] that's great news. And it
[45:13] actually, if I could go into my
[45:16] next item, right. So I shared
[45:19] an email about the street
[45:22] lighting on in three islands in
[45:23] the three island safe
[45:24] neighborhood district. And
[45:27] these are the streetlights on
[45:32] Atlantic shores and on three
[45:36] islands, on three islands. So I
[45:38] know that this is a this might
[45:41] be a funding issue, but it is
[45:43] within the safe neighborhood.
[45:45] And I know that we are doing a
[45:48] lot of safe neighborhood. I
[45:49] Commissioner Lazara has brought
[45:50] up several times that it is a
[45:52] public safety issue. So I think
[45:53] it's an important issue, and
[45:55] I'd like to figure out a way
[45:58] for us to to fund that if we
[46:02] can, for the next year. Yes,
[46:04] mayor, there are programs that.
[46:06] And I've ironically, just at
[46:07] Florida League of Cities, I
[46:09] think Phillips was there. There
[46:11] was a couple lighting companies
[46:16] that would come in and I. For
[46:17] now, I should have brought the
[46:19] documents with me, but I didn't
[46:20] think about it. I think that
[46:22] you can actually f, p and l do
[46:25] it as well. But then again, I,
[46:28] I'm not sure if what upfront
[46:31] costs they will provide for.
[46:34] And if it is the, if it's like
[46:35] type of public private
[46:36] partnership where they come in,
[46:38] they'll do it and then you
[46:41] offset it by paying it out over
[46:43] time, you know, kind of we did
[46:45] that with energy development
[46:46] block grants. We would say,
[46:47] guess what, Siemens, you come
[46:49] in, you retrofit whatever
[46:50] you'll upfront it in the
[46:52] savings, end up paying for it.
[46:54] So that MAY be a possibility.
[46:56] Look at a company like that
[46:57] that maybe will do it, but I
[46:58] don't know what the dollar
[47:00] signs would be to do the
[47:02] upfront investment. And then,
[47:03] you know, you have a revenue
[47:05] source from the district to
[47:07] continue to pay for it
[47:08] somewhere, as it would be the
[47:10] case for Golden Isles if we
[47:11] eventually do some type of
[47:12] decorative lighting throughout
[47:14] the community to figure out
[47:15] what that looked like. And as a
[47:17] matter of fact, you can do it
[47:18] before anything else, because
[47:19] usually the lighting isn't on
[47:21] the sidewalk or the street side.
[47:23] It's actually put further away
[47:25] from any of those improvements.
[47:26] But I just want to I just
[47:28] wanted to share that with you.
[47:29] That's why I keep kind of
[47:31] talking about those things. And
[47:32] I haven't had a chance to sit
[47:33] down with our purchasing
[47:35] director and discuss some of
[47:36] those opportunities as well and
[47:37] what they're going to look like.
[47:39] But I think it's doable. But
[47:40] it's I don't know if it's
[47:42] germane that we have to do it
[47:44] today or to make a direction.
[47:45] Well, we're just talking about
[47:46] budget and it came up during
[47:47] the action plan, the
[47:48] commissioner action plan and
[47:51] the email that I sent to you
[47:52] referenced the fact that the
[47:55] dpw has already coordinated
[47:58] with fpl and identified what
[48:00] needs to be done if we want to
[48:01] do it. And now it's just a
[48:04] matter of and understandably,
[48:05] time constraints on the part of
[48:07] the dpw staff. I just wanted to
[48:08] bring it up for the City
[48:12] Commission because I, in a in
[48:13] correctly identified that they
[48:14] were not in the safe
[48:15] neighborhood. They are in the
[48:17] three island safe neighborhood
[48:19] area. And I just want to clear
[48:21] that up and, and believe still
[48:24] that it's important that we
[48:26] figure out a way to, to get
[48:31] them done well. Thank you. This
[48:33] doctor Raul, would you like I
[48:34] know we're not probably going
[48:36] to amend this budget right now,
[48:39] but so we have a direction.
[48:41] Maybe it's to make a motion to
[48:42] direct doctor Earl to work with
[48:45] staff, to research viable
[48:47] alternatives to fund lighting
[48:49] within both districts, and set
[48:51] that up as a type of project or
[48:55] priority, because the revenue
[48:57] stream, if it's being placed in
[48:59] there, the revenue stream would
[49:01] be paid from the district.
[49:03] Because currently, like if you
[49:05] want a light, I can go and say,
[49:06] guess what? I want a light in
[49:08] front of my house. They'll put
[49:10] it in, but then I pay for it.
[49:12] It goes on my bill. Yeah. So,
[49:13] so okay, so mayor, would that
[49:15] work? Doctor? I think it's a
[49:16] great idea, but we're not in
[49:17] the district. My understanding
[49:19] the issue this isn't a dollars
[49:20] issue. This is a time capacity
[49:22] issue on the on the part of dpw.
[49:23] Right. Well companies come in
[49:25] and do it soup to nuts. It's
[49:27] not I'm sorry if that's a way
[49:30] for us to do it. Correct doctor.
[49:32] Yeah I understand the question.
[49:33] Like I know Siemens does it.
[49:35] Philips does it. Sure. Fpl does
[49:37] it. I don't know what has the
[49:38] best price competitive pricing
[49:40] or what it would look like. But
[49:41] they do the construction and I
[49:43] believe all the design of it,
[49:44] like it's all upfront and by
[49:49] them. So I think. Give us well,
[49:51] you can't we can't make a
[49:53] motion here. We will go back
[49:55] and take a look at the funding,
[49:57] take a look at the what we have
[49:59] in terms of the funding, and
[50:00] come back to the commission
[50:01] with a recommendation for how
[50:03] we do this. Right. And like I
[50:04] said, I don't know if, again,
[50:06] it might just be they can do it
[50:08] and then it gets paid out, kind
[50:10] of like an improvement loan or
[50:11] whatever. Okay. Do you want it
[50:13] as a form of motion? We can I
[50:15] don't even think we can because
[50:16] it's a workshop anyway, and we
[50:17] don't have the district budget
[50:19] in front of us. So go ahead.
[50:21] Yeah, that was it. I just
[50:23] wanted to make sure that we
[50:24] brought that back and gave it
[50:27] some attention, since solar
[50:29] would be great. I'm all for
[50:30] solar. She took a thank you
[50:32] because it could be you could a
[50:34] company like that, it might be
[50:35] something even totally
[50:36] different. Yeah. You know, and,
[50:38] and a lot some lightings, even
[50:40] low volt low voltage. So I
[50:41] think it's a, it's not a it's
[50:43] not as easy as saying get it
[50:45] done. In other words, and we
[50:46] know we don't want to pile on,
[50:48] but I think it's the timing of
[50:50] it would be something to look
[50:51] at. Yeah, we can, we can do
[50:53] this. You know, we did this
[50:54] again for lighting throughout
[50:55] the city. And we had an
[50:58] agreement with well, we did it
[51:00] for on the cra side. Yes. And
[51:03] we did that for the length and
[51:05] breadth of the cra. We worked
[51:07] with some partners. We did the
[51:09] design. We worked with fpl, I
[51:10] believe on the cra side. We had
[51:12] a contract. Faith, correct me
[51:14] if I'm wrong for like fpl. In
[51:15] fact, we did have a contract
[51:17] for fpl to help us install all
[51:18] of these things. We just have
[51:21] to bring the design and then we
[51:24] have to pay for maintenance
[51:27] afterwards. Correct? Right. So
[51:28] correct. So the design and
[51:29] maintenance and we have to pay.
[51:31] That's how it works. And and
[51:32] that's what the cra board
[51:34] actually did. So for the. Yes.
[51:35] So we can we will explore it
[51:37] and and bring something back to
[51:38] you. That'd be great. I, you
[51:40] know, one of the things I just
[51:42] want to mention that I think so
[51:45] we have we are assessing this
[51:46] three island safe neighborhood
[51:48] to enhance the safe
[51:50] neighborhood and not doing
[51:51] street lights in the three
[51:52] island safe neighborhood, I
[51:54] think is a gap that we've
[51:55] missed. And I think if I were a
[51:57] three islands resident and I
[51:58] had been assessed and you
[51:59] forgot to do street lights, I
[52:01] would be a little concerned.
[52:02] And it's from my understanding,
[52:06] it wasn't an expensive item,
[52:08] relatively speaking, but I
[52:09] think it's important for us to
[52:11] at least identify if we can do
[52:13] it. And I think that would be
[52:14] great, doctor Earl, if you
[52:16] could bring it back. And I
[52:17] think we can definitely do that,
[52:19] that's great. If it's not part
[52:21] of the I don't think it is, but
[52:23] if it's not already part of the
[52:24] Safe neighborhood plan. Okay.
[52:26] So my next question about the
[52:31] budget on the five year plan,
[52:33] and I brought this up before,
[52:37] so I wanted to ask on this five
[52:43] year plan, we used 2.25% as our
[52:46] estimated annual property tax
[52:48] increase for every year going
[52:52] forward, percent, 2%, 2.25%
[52:54] this year and 2% going forward.
[52:56] That's correct. Okay. So the
[52:57] taxable value increases in the
[52:59] past years, I'm just going to
[53:02] tell you there were 10.72%,
[53:06] 17.26%, 9.09%, 8.17%. Those are
[53:08] the last few years and then
[53:10] 2.25% this year. So the simple
[53:12] five year average is 9.5%.
[53:14] That's the simple average. If I
[53:18] throw out that 17.26%, we're at
[53:19] 7.6%, right? So now we're going
[53:21] all the way down to two. Not
[53:23] opposed to it. I think it's a
[53:25] great, you know, stress test
[53:27] case, but I would love to see
[53:30] this same thing with 4% and 6%,
[53:33] right? Just easy way to do it.
[53:35] I don't think that's a
[53:36] difficult. And when you mean
[53:38] four and 6%, you mean 4% in
[53:40] which year annually going
[53:41] forward. So we're doing 2%
[53:43] annually. Go to 4%. Go to 6%.
[53:44] Let's just see what that looks
[53:46] like. I think I think it'll be
[53:48] a little bit play, isn't it? It
[53:50] should be, I hope so. And do
[53:52] you want to see the impact of
[53:53] that. Is that what you were.
[53:55] Yeah. I'm just curious to see
[53:56] how it looks. That gives us a
[53:58] conservative, a moderate and a
[54:02] historical norm. Right. So that
[54:06] was one of my other requests.
[54:10] Oh, and then so this one I want
[54:12] to, I guess I can bring this up
[54:14] later because it's not
[54:15] specifically on our budget. We
[54:17] can't, we're almost into, well,
[54:19] now we have 530, so we have
[54:21] some time. Keep going. Okay.
[54:23] Because this I could bring up
[54:24] some things under other two. So
[54:27] go ahead. All right. So so one
[54:28] of the, one of the questions
[54:31] that I had, and I, I'm all for
[54:32] us doing stuff at the beach. So
[54:34] I want everybody to know that.
[54:36] And I voted in favor of all the
[54:38] funding. Oh my GOD. Now it's
[54:39] like, no, I don't want it. No,
[54:41] no that's not. Do you have
[54:42] buyer's remorse, Commissioner?
[54:43] That's not what I'm going to
[54:44] say. You say something nice.
[54:46] That is not what I'm going to
[54:48] say. I'm teasing, but I just
[54:49] want to be clear. So when we
[54:51] first said, hey, let's do some
[54:52] beach activation, it was in
[54:54] support of this snack bar. And
[54:55] I'm going to say that over and
[54:57] over and over again, because
[54:58] the snack bar didn't open and
[54:59] we're still doing the beach
[55:01] activation, not opposed to it.
[55:06] Happy to do it. I made a
[55:07] recommendation in a very long
[55:10] email to the city managers, and
[55:11] my apologies to everybody for
[55:16] the long email that we we get
[55:19] food trucks out there in order
[55:21] to offset the fact that we
[55:23] don't have a snack bar. So I
[55:28] will I will be very open and
[55:29] share with everybody that this
[55:31] all comes from spending a month
[55:33] with my kids going to the beach.
[55:35] There are no amenities. You go
[55:37] to the beach, you got to bring
[55:38] everything with you. Good luck
[55:42] buying anything. So so I'm
[55:47] still interested in us doing
[55:49] things that will help us
[55:51] activate our beach. And the
[55:52] $75,000 that we approved for
[55:54] South Beach events. And we have
[55:55] another one coming up, I think
[55:58] very soon. We also approved the
[56:00] so far sounds, which I think is
[56:04] part of our 100 year
[56:07] anniversary preparations. And
[56:09] now we recently just approved,
[56:12] I think, $250,000 for furniture
[56:16] for the North Beach facility.
[56:18] Now, all of those are great as
[56:20] long as they all are leading us
[56:22] to eventually getting a revenue
[56:23] generating tenant into both of
[56:25] those facilities. That's the
[56:27] goal. That's what we're trying
[56:29] to do. I don't want us to to
[56:31] spend all this money in order
[56:33] to have a good time. Not that
[56:34] I'm opposed to having a good
[56:36] time, trust me. But I do want
[56:39] us to ensure that there is a
[56:41] plan, and I believe that there
[56:42] is. I just want to state this
[56:44] on the record. I have I have
[56:45] supported all this stuff and
[56:47] I've supported it for the
[56:48] reason, very specific reason
[56:50] that I want to ensure that this
[56:51] eventually will lead to us
[56:53] being able to fill both the
[56:54] South Beach and North Beach
[56:56] facilities with a tenant. And
[56:57] this ties back to conversations
[56:59] that we had back when we were
[57:01] looking for the South Beach
[57:02] tenant. So I applaud the city
[57:04] for all the work that it's
[57:06] doing. I think, Director Shantz,
[57:08] you've done a fantastic job
[57:10] with the events there. I'm
[57:12] excited about. Well, I don't
[57:14] know if I'm going to be there
[57:15] this weekend. Is it yoga on
[57:18] Sunday 30? Yeah. No no no no. I,
[57:20] I, I come and have a cup of
[57:24] coffee. So I'm, I won't be
[57:26] there. 730 but I'm very excited
[57:28] about that. We're doing things
[57:29] and that our North Beach
[57:30] facility will actually have
[57:31] some activity. And I even went
[57:33] to the point where I suggest
[57:34] that maybe some of our staff
[57:36] should use the second floor as
[57:38] offices. Right? And the only
[57:39] point is, is in order to get
[57:41] usage out of it, right? So that
[57:43] people are using it on a
[57:44] regular basis, that the
[57:45] elevators are working, that the
[57:46] air conditioning is working,
[57:47] that we have people that are
[57:50] utilizing the facility. So I
[57:51] can't imagine somebody wouldn't
[57:53] want to have an office there. I
[57:55] would, but that was just a
[57:56] statement I wanted to make
[57:58] about beach activation. I meant
[58:00] to do under other. But since we.
[58:01] It's fine, we have the time.
[58:04] Sure. I just had a thought on
[58:05] that. You done with that one?
[58:06] Yes, ma'am. I'm done with it.
[58:08] Yes. You know, it occurred to
[58:10] me sitting here, you know, we
[58:12] we ran out a lot of our
[58:14] facilities. We rent them out.
[58:15] We have been sitting on that
[58:17] asset. It has a kitchen. It has
[58:19] a service area. Maybe we look
[58:22] at it as a rental, a rental
[58:23] opportunity. If somebody wants
[58:25] to have a party or an event at
[58:28] the beach, like we do at the
[58:29] cultural center has a built in
[58:31] kitchen, it has built in access.
[58:33] We put a little bit more money
[58:34] into it. Maybe somebody's going
[58:36] to want to have a party there
[58:38] or picnic or something and a
[58:41] corporate event. So food for
[58:43] thought instead of worrying
[58:45] about one particular vendor,
[58:46] because I certainly would rent
[58:47] it out for a party. I think
[58:49] it's a great gig place. We've
[58:51] done that before, I think not
[58:52] we had weddings there, right?
[58:53] Or something. Are you talking
[58:55] North city Future. South. South.
[58:58] South. South. City. Because.
[58:59] Because North doesn't have a
[59:00] kitchen. North doesn't have. No.
[59:02] It didn't have the kitchen or
[59:03] any of that stuff. But we're
[59:05] sitting on a kitchen and an
[59:06] asset that's been empty for
[59:08] like two years. So and if
[59:09] somebody wants to have a party
[59:12] or a beach party or have at it.
[59:13] No, I think I think those are
[59:15] good suggestions. We are. It's
[59:17] just like an moment. Like I was
[59:19] thinking North Beach too. Okay.
[59:23] Go ahead. So South City Beach,
[59:26] we we started and I think we
[59:27] are going to complete at some
[59:29] point I asked director Chance
[59:33] to get full commercial fridges,
[59:34] stoves, prep areas, everything
[59:35] because we're missing all the
[59:37] equipment. And I think you were
[59:40] out there as I toured inside, I
[59:42] walked all around it. So we're
[59:44] going to damn this. Sorry. I
[59:46] also this is a nice spot to
[59:48] leverage. I also asked Director
[59:50] Chance to see about food trucks
[59:54] there on as as basically pop
[59:56] ups as well. So basically we're
[59:57] trying to outfit because in
[59:58] speaking to restaurants, I've
[59:59] spoken to restaurants would
[1:00:02] want to come in most of those
[1:00:05] restaurants who, who would
[1:00:06] potentially do pop ups,
[1:00:07] including local restaurants.
[1:00:09] The lack of equipment in there
[1:00:11] is, is one of our restrictions.
[1:00:12] And so I've asked Director
[1:00:14] Chance to go out and she did
[1:00:16] she find some equipment
[1:00:17] telepathic. That's pretty good.
[1:00:19] No no no. So so we're so we're
[1:00:21] doing that. And then we're also
[1:00:23] going to work on. I know
[1:00:23] Commissioner Butler mentioned
[1:00:25] the food trucks as well. So
[1:00:27] we're also going to work on the
[1:00:28] food trucks as well. In terms
[1:00:29] of the North City Beach
[1:00:32] facility, we're also just this
[1:00:34] week, because of the upcoming
[1:00:37] events, we've added commercial,
[1:00:39] fridge, commercial, like a prep
[1:00:40] area and everything to that
[1:00:43] facility as well. We do have
[1:00:44] some staff that will be moving
[1:00:46] in there temporarily for about
[1:00:50] six weeks at that location. And
[1:00:52] then we're going to finish
[1:00:55] outfitting the facility with,
[1:00:57] with, with Wi-Fi and everything
[1:00:59] else. I know that Sean has been
[1:01:00] working on, on getting that
[1:01:01] done. So hopefully with all of
[1:01:05] these changes, this is only the
[1:01:07] first step to what you all have
[1:01:09] asked us to do. So the the
[1:01:12] other big part of it was to try
[1:01:14] and combine both locations in
[1:01:17] terms of having an rfp. So, you
[1:01:18] know, we're trying to get the
[1:01:19] first part done, which is to
[1:01:21] activate it. I'm happy to say
[1:01:22] that the events this week are
[1:01:24] sold, not sold out, but the
[1:01:25] events this week are sold out,
[1:01:27] for lack of a better term. The
[1:01:28] ones that all the wellness
[1:01:29] events that we planned, every
[1:01:31] one of those things are now
[1:01:33] sold out. So fingers crossed.
[1:01:34] Hopefully we'll and kudos to to
[1:01:36] the team who's who's working on
[1:01:39] that faith and Kathy and Rachel
[1:01:43] and the rest of them. And, and
[1:01:45] then the big part was just
[1:01:47] waiting for the contract. The
[1:01:49] agreement with Itaru Izumi
[1:01:52] slash related. Now that we have
[1:01:55] those parking spaces, well,
[1:01:57] just just to be clear, we have
[1:01:58] we have all the parking spaces,
[1:02:00] but we have less active parking
[1:02:03] spaces than we, than we, we
[1:02:04] need, because there are some
[1:02:06] work going on in the garage
[1:02:08] from Beach Club that's taken
[1:02:10] away about 15 of our parking
[1:02:11] spaces, and then we have some
[1:02:13] other internal parking needs in
[1:02:14] terms of the fire department
[1:02:17] and whatnot as well. And so
[1:02:19] working through all of these
[1:02:21] kinds of things, you know, our
[1:02:22] team is also working on coming
[1:02:24] up with a plan to join both
[1:02:25] facilities together from a
[1:02:26] parking perspective. So there's
[1:02:28] a lot of things that our team
[1:02:29] is working on now that we have
[1:02:32] the parking spaces back as well,
[1:02:34] it's going to, you know, this
[1:02:35] is really that was really one
[1:02:36] of our triggers that approval
[1:02:38] from you all to now go out and
[1:02:40] try and find someone because
[1:02:42] now they now we can say we
[1:02:43] actually have parking spaces in
[1:02:45] that facility. So, so that was
[1:02:47] huge. So we are trying to
[1:02:48] implement everything that you
[1:02:52] guys have approved. I know it's
[1:02:53] sometimes in some cases slow
[1:02:55] going, but I think we are we've
[1:02:56] made significant progress. And
[1:02:58] the other delay in the North
[1:02:59] City Beach facility was the
[1:03:02] elevator, which for it being on
[1:03:05] the beach and not an active
[1:03:06] facility that needed to be
[1:03:08] fixed. And again, with your
[1:03:09] with your help, with your
[1:03:11] approvals, we were able to fix
[1:03:13] that on an emergency basis. And
[1:03:15] now we're going to have a major
[1:03:16] overhaul of that elevator
[1:03:17] coming soon as well. So so
[1:03:20] we're so we're doing the things
[1:03:21] and hopefully we'll do the
[1:03:23] things a lot faster so you guys
[1:03:24] can be happy. Now. You piqued
[1:03:26] my interest. What are they
[1:03:28] using storage for their own
[1:03:30] construction. Beach club
[1:03:32] they've the parking. No, Kathy.
[1:03:34] They've just blocked off those
[1:03:38] spaces. Come on. Yeah. Oh, it's
[1:03:40] for security. For. So people
[1:03:41] don't damage your cars and
[1:03:42] stuff for safety reasons. Okay,
[1:03:44] so it's about 15 spaces that.
[1:03:46] No worries. No worries for a
[1:03:50] while. You're good. No. Two
[1:03:52] more. So two more because I. Go
[1:03:53] ahead. Do you have one? I know,
[1:03:55] go ahead. So the I don't want
[1:03:58] to slow your roll. Keep going.
[1:03:59] Now we're talking about it
[1:04:01] though. Oh my GOD. I have no
[1:04:02] questions. No. Well, I was
[1:04:04] checking to see if anybody was
[1:04:06] in the queue, so. Water tower.
[1:04:08] Oh my GOD. I can tell you about
[1:04:09] that. Please, I want to oh,
[1:04:10] that's what I was going to
[1:04:12] bring up. Okay, good. Wait a
[1:04:14] minute. I want to hear it. This
[1:04:15] is a great hair moment. Oh my
[1:04:17] GOD. You know, I'm going back
[1:04:19] to flc. You know, I'm strolling
[1:04:20] around and one of the companies
[1:04:22] that we used to use to do all
[1:04:23] the water towers was there. And
[1:04:27] I'm like, you know, and another
[1:04:28] gentleman branched out and did
[1:04:30] his own company. So I'm talking
[1:04:31] to him. He goes, I go, you know,
[1:04:33] we've been trying to get our
[1:04:36] water tower painted for like
[1:04:38] ages. He goes, I am so well
[1:04:41] aware of your water tower that
[1:04:43] when we had our water tower, we
[1:04:45] didn't have we didn't plan our
[1:04:47] water tower to have all the
[1:04:50] things around it. And it's an
[1:04:53] issue. It's like he told me, I
[1:04:54] don't want to have like total
[1:04:56] sticker shock. Like we had the
[1:04:57] other thing with the mooring
[1:04:59] field. But he goes, we can look
[1:05:01] like $1 million to paint just
[1:05:03] to paint the tower because the
[1:05:05] screening and safety and
[1:05:07] security and it has to be
[1:05:08] sandblasted. They have to
[1:05:11] secure the hotel, they have to
[1:05:13] secure even beach club, beach
[1:05:14] club, because everything's
[1:05:16] around it. And it's not even
[1:05:19] just about us. It's about
[1:05:20] everything that goes into it.
[1:05:22] But it's millions of dollars.
[1:05:25] We awarded it already. Nope. So
[1:05:27] we have we have $4 million. Oh,
[1:05:29] we did okay in it. And now it's,
[1:05:30] it's the execution of that,
[1:05:32] that our team is now about to
[1:05:33] work. So good. It's just it's
[1:05:35] in process. Yes. It's. Yeah.
[1:05:37] Money is there. I didn't even
[1:05:40] realize we had awarded or we
[1:05:41] allocated money. We didn't
[1:05:43] award it allocated the money to
[1:05:44] do the project. And to your
[1:05:46] point, it is millions of
[1:05:47] dollars to do that. There was
[1:05:49] not an rfq awarded. I thought
[1:05:52] we did. No no no no no no no.
[1:05:55] It was back in 2025. Well, we
[1:05:57] were talking about lighting and
[1:05:59] it was something we approved
[1:06:00] somebody getting in. Director
[1:06:01] Luis, do you remember cleaning.
[1:06:03] And I remember reading all the
[1:06:04] backup material. No I don't
[1:06:06] think. Yeah. My staff is. Yeah,
[1:06:07] they're coming down now because
[1:06:08] sometimes we've done so much.
[1:06:10] It's like, oh, good, I got the
[1:06:11] card. Actually, I was going to
[1:06:13] give you the guys. I don't know
[1:06:15] what it was to talk to him
[1:06:16] about it, but I was like
[1:06:18] sitting I'm like, I remember
[1:06:19] reading the backup about how
[1:06:21] you have to get into the. I was
[1:06:23] just, they totally studied it.
[1:06:25] And it has to be upgraded on a
[1:06:26] regular basis. And I thought we
[1:06:28] were doing that in conjunction.
[1:06:29] I thought we were doing that in
[1:06:31] conjunction with our 100 year
[1:06:34] anniversary. Update do we want
[1:06:36] an update or what do we want?
[1:06:37] Okay, so now we're going to
[1:06:39] we're going to hopefully now
[1:06:40] that we have the city engineer
[1:06:42] and hopefully in the future.
[1:06:43] But we don't want to because
[1:06:44] I'm usually good with numbers.
[1:06:46] And I was thinking we talked
[1:06:48] about 300 and some odd thousand
[1:06:50] dollars for lighting originally,
[1:06:52] and I didn't realize we had
[1:06:53] executed a line item and we
[1:06:54] were already budgeted and it's
[1:06:56] in our budget. Oh, good.
[1:06:57] Because I got the heartburn
[1:06:59] like, oh my GOD, this is it's
[1:07:01] in our cip. Okay, good. It's in
[1:07:02] our cip. All right. Thank thank
[1:07:06] you. So good. Thank you. If you
[1:07:08] want to know all about it, I'll
[1:07:10] give you the guy's card. So oh
[1:07:12] my GOD, I want to this there's
[1:07:14] one other topic I just wanted
[1:07:16] to because I was going to talk
[1:07:17] about that under other. Go
[1:07:19] ahead. Oh, you were doing okay.
[1:07:23] So we still have time. So this
[1:07:25] this item I think for me is a
[1:07:28] little bit difficult to open up.
[1:07:30] But so one of the challenges I
[1:07:36] think that we have. There is a,
[1:07:40] there isn't a, a, I don't know
[1:07:43] how to say this. So we are the
[1:07:45] number one to me, the number
[1:07:47] one purpose that we have, code
[1:07:48] compliance is for
[1:07:51] beautification. And I've I have
[1:07:53] frankly been talking to. Bless
[1:07:54] you, mayor. Excuse me. Wow,
[1:07:57] that was loud. Wow. So we've
[1:07:59] been talking about code
[1:08:01] compliance and how code
[1:08:02] compliance can contribute to
[1:08:03] beautification in the
[1:08:05] neighborhood, in the cities in
[1:08:07] the city. Since I think it was
[1:08:09] a report, I can't remember the
[1:08:10] name of the company back in
[1:08:12] 2006. So this has been a long,
[1:08:14] long time. I mean, well before
[1:08:18] I sat up here. We we recently
[1:08:20] had the two resident surveys
[1:08:22] over a two year period. And
[1:08:23] beautification didn't change,
[1:08:24] right. We didn't see an
[1:08:27] increase in beautification
[1:08:29] during that time period. Over
[1:08:30] the last five years, we've made
[1:08:33] significant investments in code
[1:08:35] compliance. And I think,
[1:08:36] Director Massey, I had
[1:08:37] mentioned to you that I wanted
[1:08:39] to get an electronic copy of
[1:08:40] our budget because one of the
[1:08:42] questions that I had was, what
[1:08:43] is our total code compliance
[1:08:44] current? What is the total
[1:08:46] budget? What how many FTEs do
[1:08:47] we have today and how does that
[1:08:49] compare with five years? And
[1:08:50] this is part of the email. I
[1:08:52] know that I sent you, Doctor
[1:08:53] Earle, and the reason I asked
[1:08:55] for this information is because
[1:08:56] we're not getting the results
[1:08:58] out of code compliance that we
[1:09:00] want. Now, the results that we
[1:09:01] want is beautification, right?
[1:09:03] That's the outcomes that we
[1:09:05] want to get. We, we, we
[1:09:07] received an email that I think
[1:09:12] is, is extraordinary that our
[1:09:16] code increase in cases has
[1:09:18] increased dramatically. And
[1:09:19] that's a wonderful thing.
[1:09:21] That's not a bad thing, but it
[1:09:24] should also have a net impact
[1:09:25] on beautification. That's what
[1:09:28] we're doing it for, right. The
[1:09:29] cases should lead to an
[1:09:30] improvement beautification. And
[1:09:31] so we're missing something. I
[1:09:34] don't know what it is, but the
[1:09:35] outcomes that we want after
[1:09:37] making massive investments in
[1:09:39] code, not massive. When I say
[1:09:41] massive, if I have my numbers
[1:09:42] correct, and I could very well
[1:09:44] be wrong, when I became a
[1:09:47] commissioner, we had five code
[1:09:49] enforcement officers and we had
[1:09:51] no administrative folks. And
[1:09:53] now we have, I don't know, 12
[1:09:55] code officers and at least two
[1:09:57] administrative people. So we've
[1:10:00] more than doubled the code
[1:10:02] department. And we get a
[1:10:04] doubling of the cases now from
[1:10:05] a productivity, you know,
[1:10:06] person per case standpoint.
[1:10:08] That's that's not good, right?
[1:10:09] That's a decrease in
[1:10:12] productivity in cases per code
[1:10:13] officer. But what's more
[1:10:15] important to me is that we're
[1:10:16] not getting the beautification
[1:10:18] results that we want. And I
[1:10:19] know this is a challenging
[1:10:23] thing to measure because it's a
[1:10:24] little bit amorphous. How do
[1:10:27] you measure beautification? But
[1:10:29] something something here,
[1:10:30] obviously, I mean, other than
[1:10:32] the resident survey, which I
[1:10:33] should have came in my speech
[1:10:35] yesterday. No, I'm just
[1:10:36] laughing. Yeah, we can talk
[1:10:39] about that too. So by the way.
[1:10:40] No, because I talked about this,
[1:10:42] I heard good response to I
[1:10:43] didn't mean to interrupt you, I
[1:10:45] apologize. So so this is
[1:10:46] something that I just wanted to
[1:10:48] bring up for the City
[1:10:49] Commission to be aware of,
[1:10:50] because I think it's an
[1:10:51] important item, because it's
[1:10:53] one of the three things that
[1:10:54] our residents are asking us to
[1:10:56] do, right? So traffic, flooding,
[1:10:57] beautification, we've got a lot
[1:10:59] of money that's going into
[1:11:00] traffic. Our Department of
[1:11:01] Transportation has already made
[1:11:03] real world results and impact
[1:11:05] for our residents, which I
[1:11:06] congratulate them for. And
[1:11:08] thank you again for that. I
[1:11:10] know we have a ton of money
[1:11:11] going into flooding, right? I
[1:11:12] don't know how we were
[1:11:13] measuring flooding, because I
[1:11:15] think it's important to be able
[1:11:17] to show to residents the actual
[1:11:20] impacts that we're that we're
[1:11:23] that are result from that. But
[1:11:25] but beautification concerns me.
[1:11:26] And I, I honestly don't know
[1:11:28] what the answer is. I don't
[1:11:29] know if it means if we increase
[1:11:31] our landscaping budget or if we
[1:11:33] create a team that goes around
[1:11:35] and does a lot of the small
[1:11:36] jobs that need to be done
[1:11:39] around the city, like painting
[1:11:41] fire hydrants, I don't know. Oh
[1:11:43] my GOD, somebody just asked me
[1:11:44] about it. Yeah, yeah, I hear it
[1:11:46] all the time too. So it sounds
[1:11:48] like such a small thing, but I
[1:11:50] will, I will, I will tell you
[1:11:51] like an example that I thought
[1:11:53] was amazing response. A year or
[1:11:57] two ago, I had shown some
[1:11:59] photographs of street signs
[1:12:01] that the city owned, and they
[1:12:02] were rusting and falling down.
[1:12:04] And within a week or two,
[1:12:06] doctor Earl, the response was
[1:12:07] amazing. You had people out
[1:12:09] there, they painted them, they
[1:12:10] made them straight again. They
[1:12:12] just little things like that,
[1:12:14] that if it were in my yard, I
[1:12:15] would want to do that, right? I
[1:12:17] would want to clean that stuff
[1:12:19] up. And it made a big impact in
[1:12:21] a very quickly. So I don't know
[1:12:22] what the answer is. I don't
[1:12:24] know how we move forward, but I
[1:12:27] think it's a it's a it's a it's
[1:12:29] an important gap that we need
[1:12:31] to figure out how to address in
[1:12:33] order to deliver on this third
[1:12:34] item that our residents are
[1:12:37] asking us to are saying is most
[1:12:39] important for them. Okay, mayor,
[1:12:40] I will shut up. I'm done. Thank
[1:12:42] you very much for your patience.
[1:12:45] Actually, it like to wrap and
[1:12:47] this is how I phrased it
[1:12:49] yesterday and thought about it
[1:12:50] to me. And I keep saying it's
[1:12:53] called curb curb appeal and
[1:12:55] what code enforcement is
[1:12:56] important. It stops when the
[1:12:58] sidewalk, when where the
[1:13:00] sidewalk ends. That's where it
[1:13:02] is involved with public
[1:13:08] property. The idea of even just
[1:13:09] replacing and getting rid of
[1:13:11] the clutter on the roadway,
[1:13:13] cleaning the roadways I brought
[1:13:14] up, you know, even power
[1:13:16] washing, making sure that we're
[1:13:18] doing those things. And I don't
[1:13:21] know how that translates,
[1:13:23] translates into actionable
[1:13:25] items. I'll give you an example.
[1:13:26] When I grew up, the sidewalk
[1:13:28] was forced to maintain, even if
[1:13:30] we had a swale, you had to cut
[1:13:32] the grass, you had to clean the
[1:13:33] sidewalk. You had to do
[1:13:35] everything you had to do. Right.
[1:13:38] Okay, now we're not in urban
[1:13:40] America. We're no, we're not in
[1:13:41] suburban America. We're in
[1:13:43] urban America the other day,
[1:13:44] and I know it might be a little
[1:13:46] long winded. I was working out
[1:13:48] at Oasis. I was looking down on
[1:13:49] the street and that property
[1:13:51] owner sweeps actually the
[1:13:54] street. Their maintenance goes
[1:13:55] out, scrubs the sidewalk. I
[1:13:58] mean, granted, it's a new area,
[1:14:00] right? Sweeps the sidewalk. And,
[1:14:02] you know, I basically said, you
[1:14:04] know, this is a joint effort.
[1:14:06] People have to contribute to
[1:14:08] making sure. But more
[1:14:10] importantly, residents need to
[1:14:12] understand what we can control
[1:14:13] and what we can't control. So
[1:14:14] if somebody's not going to do
[1:14:16] it and we're going to code
[1:14:17] enforce them and they're not
[1:14:19] going to clean it and just
[1:14:20] ignore it, it's still not
[1:14:21] getting done. So code
[1:14:24] enforcement is a tool, but we
[1:14:26] can find and find and find. But
[1:14:28] that means the job is not
[1:14:29] getting done. So that has to go
[1:14:31] back to the policy. Now like
[1:14:34] you said, we staff's been great.
[1:14:35] They cleaned up the baskets on
[1:14:38] a one a and the trash cans and
[1:14:40] all that stuff. So I think it's
[1:14:43] a multifaceted type of approach
[1:14:44] and means different things to
[1:14:46] different people. You know, I
[1:14:48] mean, we drive through Golden
[1:14:49] Beach all the time. I mean, you
[1:14:51] know, it's wonderful. They have
[1:14:53] a beautiful one way corridor.
[1:14:54] That's what they have to
[1:14:56] maintain. Aventura. Aventura
[1:14:58] has a ton of condos. Think
[1:15:00] about what they have in the
[1:15:03] public realm to take care of a
[1:15:05] lot different than us. We have
[1:15:07] much more public realm when it
[1:15:09] comes to even Pembroke Road,
[1:15:10] Hallandale Beach Boulevard, all
[1:15:12] these roadways, and it costs
[1:15:14] money to maintain them. So
[1:15:16] maybe, you know, we have to
[1:15:18] maybe sit down, maybe we do our
[1:15:20] own exercise to say, let's get
[1:15:22] every bus shelter replaced.
[1:15:24] Let's look at cleaning, you
[1:15:26] know, cleaning the streets,
[1:15:28] doing those types of things.
[1:15:30] But that's definitely that goes
[1:15:31] back to general fund. It goes
[1:15:34] back to investments, street
[1:15:35] signs, all the street signs are
[1:15:38] our responsibility. Hallandale
[1:15:41] Beach Boulevard, it's fdot. We
[1:15:42] can't even pave it. The ones
[1:15:44] that are, you know what I mean?
[1:15:46] So and that's what I talked
[1:15:47] about. So if you talk about it
[1:15:48] conscientiously and say we
[1:15:51] don't a1 a we can partner with.
[1:15:52] We invested money there years
[1:15:55] ago, redeveloping the street
[1:15:56] lighting. We did everything
[1:15:58] down there. Right. It's been a
[1:16:00] while, right? Maybe it needs a
[1:16:01] little a little bit more
[1:16:03] facelift, maybe a little bit
[1:16:05] more landscaping. But those are
[1:16:06] million dollar projects.
[1:16:08] They're not like little, you
[1:16:10] know, the signs. But getting
[1:16:12] back to the science, it's not
[1:16:14] our responsibility to replace
[1:16:15] every sign on Hallandale Beach
[1:16:17] Boulevard. That's not what they
[1:16:19] did. And that's not what they
[1:16:20] did. They did it on Golden
[1:16:21] Isles Drive. And I'm saying,
[1:16:23] that's good, that's good. And
[1:16:24] it was it really made a huge
[1:16:26] difference. But I agree with
[1:16:27] you, mayor. I don't know what
[1:16:29] the answer is. So and so I hear
[1:16:30] you, but maybe strategically
[1:16:31] when we're not worried about
[1:16:33] all the moving parts with
[1:16:35] property tax and, you know, I
[1:16:37] encourage people go online, see
[1:16:39] what see what is your
[1:16:41] responsibility. But some of
[1:16:42] those things, yes, we can do
[1:16:44] better. The curb appeal,
[1:16:45] cleaning it up, doing the bus
[1:16:48] shelters, getting rid of the
[1:16:50] million little advertising
[1:16:52] things, that kind of stuff. So
[1:16:54] I think we set in play some of
[1:16:55] the stuff that will be real,
[1:16:57] but I don't think we're not
[1:16:59] going to change. And I'll shout
[1:17:00] it out and it's horrible. Old
[1:17:02] building where Harry's building
[1:17:04] it. That whole building needs a
[1:17:06] facade replacement. Yeah. But I,
[1:17:08] you know, and it's ugly, so.
[1:17:09] But you're going through other
[1:17:12] areas that aren't 100 years old.
[1:17:14] They're not as urban as us. Or
[1:17:16] there are different type of
[1:17:17] community that was with plan
[1:17:20] design community. So it is a
[1:17:21] difficult obviously, our focus
[1:17:23] should be on the homeless to
[1:17:24] homeless all over the place and
[1:17:25] trash and the shopping carts.
[1:17:27] So yeah, I mean that. So it's
[1:17:28] really bad if we're just
[1:17:29] talking about beautification,
[1:17:31] obviously, what, what do we
[1:17:32] have control over and what we
[1:17:34] can, what we can influence. And,
[1:17:35] and maybe this should be a
[1:17:36] workshop. Maybe, maybe we
[1:17:39] should sit down and, and get
[1:17:41] somebody who actually is an
[1:17:42] expert on, on tying these two
[1:17:44] things together. We've made
[1:17:45] enormous investments. I support
[1:17:46] those investments and code
[1:17:48] compliance. I just we're not
[1:17:49] getting we're not getting the
[1:17:52] outcomes that we wanted.
[1:17:53] They're doing better because
[1:17:54] they're foreclosing. Again, you
[1:17:56] lost the component of how our
[1:17:58] legal department is moving on
[1:17:59] foreclosure. I understand the
[1:18:00] benefit that we're getting out
[1:18:02] of it. And I'm not I'm not
[1:18:03] opposed to all of those
[1:18:05] benefits out of it. We just
[1:18:06] need to figure out how to
[1:18:07] affect this beautification
[1:18:09] thing so that two years from
[1:18:11] now or a year from now, when we
[1:18:12] do a resident survey, people
[1:18:13] are saying, yeah, Hallandale
[1:18:14] really has improved
[1:18:15] significantly in that third
[1:18:16] metric that is so important to
[1:18:18] our residents. Yeah. So I'm
[1:18:19] feeling you. I just talked
[1:18:21] about it yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:18:23] So we're good. Yes, ma'am.
[1:18:25] Thank you. Talked about that. I
[1:18:26] think we're good. I think we
[1:18:28] can take a pause for ten
[1:18:29] minutes. Give everybody a break.
[1:18:31] Anybody else for budget. Oh and
[1:18:33] great job on the budget again.
[1:18:35] Thank you very much to all of
[1:18:36] you. So I know you guys I
[1:18:38] usually give you everybody
[1:18:39] props. I'm a little tired today
[1:18:41] so yeah. Okay. Thank you very
[1:18:42] much. Thank you doctor. We're
[1:18:46] going to take a recess. Thank