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Call the city council meeting of October

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11th or August 11, 2026 to order at 7

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p.m. Please call the roll.

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Council proper

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council

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>> here

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» please rise and pledge please

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al to the flag

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of America.

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I want to thank each of you who took

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time to attend tonight. Any guests who

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are physically present need to fill in

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this meeting signin sheet near the door.

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And we're running a hybrid meeting

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tonight to allow those who wish to

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attend remotely to do so.

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do cut down on background noise. Blue

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banks promoted attendee should mute

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themselves while not speaking. Staff

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members and guests on the agenda will

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need to unmute themselves and give

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reports to council and audience members

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may unmute themselves to speak during

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the public hearings and during citizen

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comments.

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The next item on the agenda is the

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consent agenda

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which contains financial report from

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July 2026 and the minutes from the

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council meeting held on July 21st.

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and vote on these individually or

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together. I would entertain a motion

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that the that the governing body of the

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city of Holly approved the business

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items in the consent agenda as

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submitted.

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>> Second. All in favor?

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>> I post.

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>> Thank you very much.

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Y do we have any agenda adjustments?

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>> Um we do have one small agenda

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adjustment and that is the matter we are

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already discussing some of the upcoming

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council meetings

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>> for October. There is a related there is

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another thing related to the September

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meeting. So I would like to add the

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discussion to the September meeting

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during that time. Okay. during the

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>> sometime I two

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>> and then

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>> oh yeah

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>> council

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approves that they can just entertain

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motion to add the address please.

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>> Okay.

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>> Have a question. We seconded the motion

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I missed.

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>> I second.

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>> Okay. Thank you.

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» So

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what does council say?

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>> You see the delegations?

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>> Yes.

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» So, next would be since Link County

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Sheriff's Office here, are you doing the

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report, Jen, or Steve?

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» Okay. You want to do that second or

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>> um make him circle back to see unless

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the other wants to present it. She's

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welcome to. It's up to you.

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>> Yeah, it's up to you, Jeff. I can I can

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present it. Okay.

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So in July of this year, poly usually

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had 72 contracted hours. Sheriff's

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office performed 73.25

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hours, which included two traffic

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citations, five traffic warnings, zero

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arrest, and the total number of

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incidents and investigated were 28.

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>> Pretty normal.

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No story in the property times. There

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was a

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uh broken window. The investigation is

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still ongoing. Uh suspicious persons.

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Those persons were watching the trains

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and videoing trains and there was a lot

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of fireworks.

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» Any questions, comments?

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I have a question on this one.

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>> Uh assisted another agency with getting

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a missing person's form signed.

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>> Is it the missing person signing the

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form or is it to say

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>> okay to say that they're missing?

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>> Okay. I was like, how do you get a

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missing person to sign a form?

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Do you want to discuss the uh

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meeting now?

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>> or you want to move it to new business?

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So, some comments,

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>> right? I just wonder if you want to do

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that meeting of delegations or new

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business

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meeting September.

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>> Oh, no. We can't talk about that in new

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business. Okay. I just want to make

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sure. Yeah.

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>> Next item on the agenda is citizen

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comment. This is time for interested

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citizens and anyone in the audience to

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address the council

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on any item of concern. Please limit

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your comments to about three minutes and

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please start by introducing yourself and

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stating your address. Um also do we have

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any written comments?

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>> Okay. Start with that.

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>> Yes, please.

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>> Okay. We received a written comment via

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our comment submission form on August

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8th from Mr. Zane Goodwin. Um the

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comment states

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in the June 9th city council minutes the

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city has stated that the H3 project is

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not considered a land action and that

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this conclusion has been affirmed by the

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city planner planning consultant with

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full council. I'm asking the city to

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revisit whether the that responsibly

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addresses appendix A of the Hollyy

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comprehensive plan. Appendix A section

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three states that the planning

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commission shall review and comment on

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proposed land actions and programs that

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may impact resources on the housing

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register of historical resources. Each

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part of that language matters. It says

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shall not pay. It includes both land

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actions and programs, not just land

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actions. And the threshold is whether

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something may impact a registered

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resource, not whether it physically

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alters and demolishes the historic

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building in it. The house at 791

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Westport Street is on these register of

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historic resources. The city's earlier

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explanation that there's no permit to

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alter or demolish the building appears

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to address a kind of a separate

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provision concerning alteration of and

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demolition permits. It does not appear

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to answer section three uh subsection 4

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which separately addresses land actions

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and programs that may impact registered

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historic resources. This question is

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more significant now that the August

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council packet describes the final H

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street design as including substantial

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storm water infrastructure, drainage and

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coverts and added system capacity in an

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area where most no storm facilities

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previously existed. Has the city

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determined whether the H street project

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is a program that may impact the house

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under appendix a section 3 section 4? If

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so, please identify where that

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determination can. If not, I

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respectfully ask that to the project be

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referred to the planning commission for

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review and comments required by P for

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construction.

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June meeting we stated it was a land

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action because the land action was

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created by the adoption of the top plan

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and during that land action it

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identified and which previously I mean

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the land the road had been plotted since

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the 1870s but that very specific action

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was a state requirement to do a

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transportation component and that

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transportation component says these are

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>> and they belong to the city and if we

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use them for roads and we improvements

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for roads then that's not a action or

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program. Um and so that is what I just

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want to provide that kind of clarity

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that is why it's not only in action is

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because the action was the comp plan.

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transportation plan, and also in that

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section of the plan, it says that we'll

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improve pay. You know, that I'm not I

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don't want to misspe because I know I'm

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not speaking verbatim, but it does state

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that we will improve city roads. And so,

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we're not trying to be dismissive, but

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that is why it is not a new action is

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that it's just literally not classified

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as a land action.

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So, anybody in the audience wish to

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Okay. Moving on to reports to council.

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Start with the uh city administrative

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your report. So we as you know have lots

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of projects some large some also large

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um and the update on inflow and

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infiltration everything frankly is ready

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to start really fired up infiltration

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DQ approved the final bid documents we

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actually have um gone through we are

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developing our timelines which is what I

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will talk about in the September meeting

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and there are certain things that we're

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required to do so the DQ is the funding

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source We are required to send our bid

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documents to them for approval before we

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actually open the procurement. And so

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they've approved, they like the

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language, we followed all their rules

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and their contract language stuff. Our

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legal council reviewed it. Um we added

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the the things that they asked. They

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reviewed it again. Final approval. When

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you do this level of procurement, there

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are certain timelines that are required.

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of time. We have to provide our notice

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of intent to award. And then we have to

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give seven days after posting that

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notice of intent to award. And it's

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essentially a period of time where other

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people can like object to our award and we would have to provide our

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tabulations and all the things that we

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use to make our determination for the

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contract we selected and then council

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approves our intent to award. So after

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that 70-day window. Um so that's where

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we're at. All of those things are

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timelined through the end of August and

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interly September. When we have the

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intent to award and we have the bid

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packages, we must submit those back to

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Again, that's why the September part

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kind of matters, right?

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>> We have to submit them back to DEEQ

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before we can actually award. And so

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they have to review our bid documents,

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Fidelity. And then once they approve the

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contract be selected, we are allowed to

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make that final or so lots of things

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going on with INI. Much of it very

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technical, timeline driven, not very

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crowded at all. Um, but that's that's

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rocking and rolling. That's exciting.

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Uh, the H Street project, it's design is

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complete for the H Street project. The

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final design, again, it it did include

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some substantial storm water

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infrastructure. Um,

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sections over there where we have

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already done some like French drains and

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things,

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>> right?

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>> So, um you know, just making sure that

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there's proper pulver works. This also,

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as you all know, includes a repair to

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existing storm water infrastructure

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that's actually pretty substantial. It

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goes like all the way underneath H

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Street and and then to the north like

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300 feet or so. That's an exaggeration

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for sure. I'm wrong on this photo. Like

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100 feet, but it's a lot. So the whole

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length of it is quite a bit,

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>> right?

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>> And so that's, you know, those those

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things need to be done while the road

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bed is dug up,

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>> right?

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>> But they're adding cost to the project.

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Some of those project costs there is um

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some opportunity for us to use some

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SDCs, but those are very limited

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opportunities. And so we want to be very

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diligent about our research in that

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regard. We are going to bid on this. We

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would like to we are working on the bid

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language to ensure that we're protecting

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ourselves to have the withhold the right

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to cancel the procurement and move the

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larger procurement or cancel items

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within the scope in order to get things

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within budget. Those are all things that

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we're allowed to do. You just want to be

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very very clear in the invitation to bid

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language and the language in that whole

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big packet so that you are covering

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yourself to do those things once you

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start getting into negotiations with

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their um there's also you know threshold

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things. So if the procurement exceeds

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250,000

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to one person then it bumps into a

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higher level of legal review and some

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extra steps. It also bumps it into a

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review that would require us to go

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through a sealed bid more formal

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process. We don't anticipate one

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contractor. It should not be that one

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contractor would exceed that amount, but

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we just want to build in those

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protections in the procurement even

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though we're paying to have to go back

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to bid, you know,

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>> we are um positioning ourselves to

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regroup and do the whole process if it

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turns out that we need to. Um, but that

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one I'm writing now. It's very technical

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soon. We're gonna post that bid soon.

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It's really just about and and frankly

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once I write it, I have to send it to a

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legal team review, but it's ready to go.

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Um, I'll also double check with uh ODOT

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because it is a ODOT grant,

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>> right?

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>> To see if they have any I'll review and

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see if we have to send it for to them

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for review as well. Sometimes that's

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true. Um well 24 of park projects as you

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know it turns out we have to do one more

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pathway and fortunately there was

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leftover grant funds to do so. If you

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haven't seen them yet they should be in

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the park today. It is considered a small

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project. It'll be nice to be able to

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have something that we were easily baked

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to easy to take to procure it. Get it

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turned around and be finished this week.

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Uh that will create a path that goes

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from the updated path that we put in

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last year to one of the benches by the

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new playground. So, it'll just line

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right up. I think the only change order

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we might have now that they're on site

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is that we realized that the bench

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like the bench cement,

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>> they're 4 feet by eight, but APA for a

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walkway is recommended at 5 to six feet.

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So, our path, our existing path is 5t

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wide. The path that we are putting in,

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we can't do path that we're putting in

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to the playground also 5t wide. So we

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may there is funding left over. We may

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if the change order doesn't result in in

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too if it's not too much of a hassle

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actually create like an additional path

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on that back side of an additional foot

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so that it's at least square.

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>> Sure.

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>> So that would be potentially the only

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change order that I see on that project

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and we will wrap it up

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>> and then we're done with it. Right.

399
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>> Yes.

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>> Yay.

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>> Done with it. Other things at the park

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we have lined up for fall but those are

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just they're unrelated to the grant. Um

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it's just continuing to pour into that

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resource that we have. U we keep talking

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about planting trees. You have to plant

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them in the fall or spring,

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>> right?

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>> In spring we do budget. So all of my

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hopes and dreams about planting in the

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spring have been not come to fruition

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several times. So this year we are

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planting trees in the fall. Plant them

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not in the fall or spring. It just is

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really hard. It's a lot more effort and

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not the best practice. Um and then also,

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you know, we put in the annual flowers

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under the sign. And so I think it would

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be nice to consider what things are good

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for fall planting and start

421
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transitioning to those to perennials

422
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that won't be like the annual invest

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like spending money on all those flowers

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every year um when we could pick other

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more native solutions.

426
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>> True.

427
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>> Yeah. So fun stuff at the park. Easy

428
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stuff.

429
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>> You guys know trees, right? Lots of

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shovels. John needs a shovel. He knows

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how to do it. He does. Yeah.

432
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>> Yeah. Um the 24 project

433
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the EPA well project review continues

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that cross country. As you guys know we

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have different buckets of money for the

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grant. Both of them EPA both of them

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from different granting agencies. We're

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so grateful.

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We are

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um so

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I've sent all of the followup

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documentation to the people that we got

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the $350,000 grant from. but they're a

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pass through an eight. And so we got

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that grant through an organization

446
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called Philanthropy Northwest who

447
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essentially was the recipient of the

448
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grant and they subor these EPA cuts. We

449
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still have to follow all the EPA rules,

450
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but they're I talked to them and then

451
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they talked to the EPA. So I they say

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EPA wants this. I send it to them. Well,

453
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I had a conference with our pre-awward

454
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officer with the $700,000 loan and asked

455
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a million questions and I um we

456
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discussed that we were hoping to merge

457
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the cross cutters and say, "Hey, what

458
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about the rest of this project? Can we

459
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just add it to this already active

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review?" And she would like to keep them

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separate. Here was the benefit of that

462
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meeting.

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was with the EPA.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Oh, good. So I feel like the way that

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she was able to address my questions and

467
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no I mean absolutely I've been the other

468
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agency has been very helpful but to

469
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speak directly to the agency that you're

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receiving the money for that like enacts

471
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the rules uh it was really really

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beneficial. I actually pulled out the

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site plan and showed her the area and

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what would go where, where the grand

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survey like on Google Earth and she

476
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was optimistic that it was going to be

477
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easy to get through the process of

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shift.

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>> Again, we cannot hold over to that.

480
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Right.

481
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>> Right.

482
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>> She did not make any promises, but it

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was very um reassuring that it is again

484
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it's not a high impact project. It is on

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already developed area. is on our public

486
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works, you know, it's in our public

487
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workshop. So those things are all voting

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very well for us. So like fingers

489
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crossed we will get the exemption that

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we're

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>> good

492
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>> the exemption from the deep dive review.

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This is this is the top this is the

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first review.

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I am actively writing a I also want

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about making sure an engineer record is

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compliant with any of the federal

498
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recruitment rules because a engineer

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record on a federal grant project. You

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can but there are a lot of rules about

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it.

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>> And so I asked all the questions about

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that so that um we are going to go for

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another engineer record. We are still

505
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going to work with our current engineer

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record. We're just deepening our bench.

507
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We've talked about it a lot. I got all

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the information I need. So I'm

509
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developing that so we can go off for

510
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engineer engineer of record. I also will

511
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be calling meeting with our integrator

512
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of record which is basically our water

513
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treatment plant programmer to start

514
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really refining that portion of the

515
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project. Um as you know we've had some

516
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hiccups at the water treatment plant as

517
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of late and they have been frustrating

518
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and there it's showing its age. The guys

519
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are really good about keeping it running

520
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but it is showing its age. So, we're

521
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trying to position ourselves so that as

522
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soon as we get through that

523
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environmental review step, we are ready

524
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for we are just ready to develop bid

525
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packages and go to construction. Um, I

526
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also got approval once there's a couple

527
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more chat boxes we need to check, but

528
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some of the things that we will need for

529
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the water trainer plan, the computer

530
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components, some of them in talking to

531
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the integrators, the people who come out

532
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and do our programming and help us when

533
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our automations are not working right or

534
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something's going on. Um they had

535
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mentioned that there are things that are

536
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like six months out to order. And so I

537
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Yeah. And so one of the things that we

538
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want to do is again with that we want to

539
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make sure that we're compliant with all

540
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the rules. There's so many rules of

541
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federal advance. It's such hard money

542
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,360
but we're grateful again. um if we could

543
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purchase those items

544
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prior to completion of the environmental

545
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review

546
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and if they are supply purchases under a

547
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certain cost threshold which all of them

548
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should be that is allowance. So once we

549
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like really have the scope of what we're

550
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going to need

551
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>> um in in discussions with the

552
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integrators, we can actually start

553
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ordering stuff

554
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>> and get it on the shelf and be ready

555
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again. Just be ready to rock and roll at

556
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that.

557
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>> Um that is the well project.

558
00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:54,480
» Okay. Safe to school. The project launch

559
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,880
meeting was held last week. We des we

560
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,200
did discuss all project activities. Um,

561
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,720
and so there's going to be kind of a big

562
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,600
push in early September. One of the

563
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,440
things that we that is going to be

564
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,840
asking is to participate in an

565
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,679
interactive map. Like we want feedback

566
00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:12,400
from people who see kids walking to

567
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,159
school, who have kids walking to school,

568
00:21:14,159 --> 00:21:15,600
drive and pick up their kids, but are

569
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,360
like navigating that whole drop off

570
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,280
pickup situation at the elementary

571
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,679
school in particular. And so this

572
00:21:21,679 --> 00:21:23,760
interactive map allows community members

573
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,880
to like go to a easy to access site,

574
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,480
click on parts of like it's going to be

575
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,919
like a map of our town and click on

576
00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:32,080
sections and make your comments on what

577
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080
issues you're seeing there. you can just

578
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,640
like and we also requested if they could

579
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,440
provide like a short three minute um you

580
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,200
know one to three minute just like this

581
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,600
is how it works video so we could

582
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,559
develop like a landing page on the

583
00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:48,080
quality website that has some of those

584
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,760
like supporting materials to help people

585
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,960
navigate that tool.

586
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,520
>> Yeah.

587
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,320
>> Um and also pressure updates. So that's

588
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,960
coming in the fall. Um, we are going to

589
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,039
have enough materials to have a little

590
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:01,200
bit of an info booth like coming soon

591
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,600
and potentially even actually like QR

592
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,919
codes and postcards and things for

593
00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:07,919
people to start participating at the

594
00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:08,880
summer barbecue.

595
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,679
>> Okay.

596
00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:12,000
>> So, I let them know that timeline and

597
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,120
that's a big event for us and that

598
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,640
having those materials by them would be

599
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,840
really really helpful. So, they're going

600
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,080
to make sure that happens. Stacy and I

601
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,240
also discussed, counselor Strauss and I

602
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:25,840
also discussed um that we would

603
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,760
meet up at the school during pick up and

604
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,960
drop off and literally hand things out

605
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,440
to people. We're going to just solicit

606
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,520
them to participate in our survey. So,

607
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,400
as long as

608
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,000
>> join

609
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,559
that then we're gonna be um doing that

610
00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:42,400
as well, you know, period. We're going

611
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,600
to be doing that. So, we're going to

612
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,440
really try to get the word out. Um, and

613
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,080
that project goes on. So, a lot of fall

614
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,440
stuff coming up. Uh, SMAT, so much so

615
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,679
much updates, you guys. Smack has been

616
00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:55,840
hard at work this summer. Um, we

617
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,360
definitely spent winter and spring

618
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,360
restructuring. We've talked about how we

619
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,200
went through the first long session. We

620
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,600
partnered with a lobbyist, end up not

621
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,120
being a good fit. got through that long

622
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,159
session and you know back in 2024 and

623
00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:12,000
then following that we parted ways with

624
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240
that lobbyist and we have essentially

625
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,720
been restructuring. So we spent 2025

626
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,320
getting things back together doing some

627
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,559
restructuring figuring out what SMAP

628
00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:23,600
looks like going forward and then we

629
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,840
started delegating tasks. We have

630
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,600
started having monthly meetings and we

631
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,320
are moving forward some with onboarding

632
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,960
a new lobbyist firm consultants group

633
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,280
and um really looking into we've been

634
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,640
providing some council training

635
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,440
opportunities. So we're really

636
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,880
I feel like it's rock and rolling and

637
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,720
our goal is really the next step is that

638
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,960
we are really trying to

639
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,120
you know and so the effort of smack is

640
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:53,280
to bring advocacy to the issues that

641
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,120
face small city governments and to do

642
00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:59,760
that you know we really need our elected

643
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,520
officials to feel emboldened and like

644
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,760
they understand how to do that that you

645
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,520
know if they have an interest in it that

646
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,760
they're prepared to and that we're, you

647
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,279
know, really dialed into talking to our

648
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:12,799
legislators when we have, you know,

649
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,400
unfunded mandates and other issues that

650
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,039
come down from the state that maybe are

651
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,200
not in alignment with home rule,

652
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,600
>> right?

653
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,760
>> So, um, you know, that's really where

654
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,919
we're at with that. We do have, now that

655
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:25,760
we're feeling like we've really

656
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,080
solidified the restructuring,

657
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,120
we will be very serious this fall about

658
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,640
going out and doing recruiting at other

659
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,799
cities. And that means visiting other

660
00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:37,600
city councils. So that will be some of

661
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,039
the city administrators from partner

662
00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:41,440
cities and some members of council from

663
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,200
partner cities that that are interested

664
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,679
in participating in those efforts.

665
00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:51,590
Um more to come

666
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,799
barbecue as well. This is our 150th year

667
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:56,559
anniversary. We are planning a bunch

668
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:58,480
more fun things and we really need

669
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,320
volunteers. So you were given a signup

670
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,440
sheet. you give me your signup sheet,

671
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,400
but we really need we need people at all

672
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,159
spots. We are trying to deepen our

673
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:09,919
bench. We're going to reach out to other

674
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:11,840
organizations locally to try to get out

675
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,080
volunteers for this effort. I'm also

676
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,080
asking local businesses for donations to

677
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,919
sort of sponsor some of these added fun

678
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:21,440
things that we're providing. We have um

679
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,520
face painting from the librarian again.

680
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,840
We have animal carnival tabletop game

681
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,840
activities, a few inflatable carnival

682
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,120
games. We also um are working we've asked our sheriff's department to

683
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,559
bring a patrol car which they're working

684
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,559
on. I'm going to touch base with Travis

685
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,240
about maybe bringing one of their fire

686
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,760
engines or other equipment if they're

687
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,279
able

688
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,840
so we understand if you can't you know.

689
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,760
Um so a lot of really cool stuff. We're

690
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,240
again doing a food drive uh with a

691
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,559
raffle prize for sharing hands and we'll

692
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:53,760
take donations and food items. So it's

693
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,679
going to be a big event. I think that

694
00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:58,080
frankly for the carnival we're probably

695
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,039
going to need like like at least eight

696
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:02,880
people just for that and we still need

697
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,400
all the people for the other things we

698
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,720
always do. So just a friendly reminder

699
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,520
event

700
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,320
take what we can get

701
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,279
uh upcoming events August 8th program

702
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:18,320
but for now we just sat down this

703
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,880
weekend was great. August 12th is the

704
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,640
last connect county dinner so that's

705
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,640
tomorrow night. Um, and that's over in

706
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,000
Brownsville Park. They've been doing

707
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,760
really cool stuff in the plumber.

708
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,320
September or September 7th, we're closed

709
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,320
in observance of Labor Day. September

710
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,919
8th is the school's first day of school.

711
00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:37,840
And September 11th is our

712
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,830
Any questions

713
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,600
or discussion?

714
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,789
Anybody?

715
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,679
» Okay.

716
00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:53,600
So the next item on the agenda then

717
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,440
would be further planning.

718
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,720
Audrey, do you please

719
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,679
I could read it to you but that's

720
00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:05,760
>> any comments.

721
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,919
>> Yeah, just wanted to kind of understand

722
00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:09,360
the difference between the agency and

723
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:14,149
the HC

724
00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:16,320
code. So sometimes they talk to each

725
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,159
other but not too often.

726
00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:23,200
I listed out the current permits that we

727
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,760
have in progress. Um, house at 4 and H

728
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,760
just came in and paid for their STC's

729
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,279
and they're going to be putting in water

730
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,360
very shortly soon by the end of the

731
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,880
month. So, they're getting really really

732
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,840
close to having a house,

733
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,559
>> right?

734
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,080
>> Which one is that?

735
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,990
>> Fourth and um

736
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,799
» that's right. the uh plan commission

737
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,679
meeting tomorrow for the Miller Trust

738
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:53,039
projects. Um and hopefully we'll find

739
00:27:53,039 --> 00:28:07,430
that

740
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,360
any questions,

741
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,240
comments?

742
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Okay, next item is the public works

743
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,720
report. Is there anything else from

744
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,909
anybody on that?

745
00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:24,240
» No. Unless anybody has questions, I'll

746
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,520
do my best to answer. I'll take them

747
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,039
back to follow up.

748
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,870
>> That's good.

749
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,919
» The trees along 99 look good since they

750
00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:35,679
were

751
00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:38,640
new water every week. Right.

752
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,279
>> Yeah. Yeah.

753
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:53,669
Good.

754
00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:55,600
further issues, but never number two

755
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600
pump.

756
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,200
>> Uh

757
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,559
pump, we never operate service pumps.

758
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:03,279
>> Yeah.

759
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:07,520
>> Um like ever. And actually we mostly

760
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,200
don't we try not to operate our high

761
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,720
service pumps. They're there for back.

762
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,799
We have a big draw and and we really

763
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,880
never need three of them. Obviously, we

764
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,480
want all of our pumps to be functional.

765
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,440
But the pump number two was having kind

766
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,520
of a commun was already not working. And

767
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,520
then pump number one, high service, I

768
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,799
want to say it was pump number one, was

769
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:29,120
having a communication issue, which was

770
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,000
then resulting in the reservoirs not

771
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,159
filling because the jockey pump was

772
00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:35,919
kicking off. It wasn't telling the other

773
00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:38,799
pump to turn off. There was they robbed

774
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:40,399
a part out of pump number two. They're

775
00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:44,000
not saying pump number one. The water

776
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,760
treatment plan is showing its age.

777
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,080
>> Yeah.

778
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,520
>> So, they had a lot of headaches and it

779
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,960
was like all in one week. It was like

780
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,320
over and over and it was like something

781
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,399
different every time. And now things are

782
00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:54,720
running smoothly, but we're really

783
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,840
looking forward to upgrading.

784
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,200
>> Definitely feels precarious when you

785
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,360
have that many things going on in a

786
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,880
short period of time.

787
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,120
>> Like this thing. I see that we have

788
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:12,950
projects under way for repairing that.

789
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,960
» Questions.

790
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:21,269
>> Okay, moving on to the library report.

791
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:25,279
Sounds like reading was good.

792
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:26,960
More people than we met.

793
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,720
>> Yeah, we have more people registered

794
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,520
this year. Um, two of our events did

795
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,039
overlap with two of Brownsville's big

796
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,279
events. So, there was a few like polls

797
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,799
between um attendants, but it was it was

798
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,080
good this year. There was a lot of new

799
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,159
kids and a lot of excitement. Everyone

800
00:30:42,159 --> 00:30:44,320
enjoyed the presenters.

801
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,399
We had a couple more signups. Actually,

802
00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:47,760
a few people that showed up for the last

803
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,039
week, so I think it ended up being like

804
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:50,880
32

805
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,919
kids, I think, that were officially

806
00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:54,720
registered for at like through the

807
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,559
summer reading process from like this

808
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,120
first week to the last week.

809
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,440
>> Awesome. I was bummed to miss it this

810
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760
year. Between my schedule and the

811
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,960
grandkid schedule,

812
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,279
whatever next year.

813
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:14,310
>> Any other questions, comments?

814
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,149
» Okay.

815
00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:19,760
Then the next one is my report.

816
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,760
Basically, I'm going to focus on the

817
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,120
Oregon Mayor Association conference I

818
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,799
just got back from. Um on these

819
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:31,120
conferences I I tend to be pretty strict

820
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,600
on the reason if I'm going to go or not.

821
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,880
I use my three article rules for

822
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,240
magazines. It has to have three good

823
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,320
articles before I'll buy a magazine.

824
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,200
We'll do the same thing with the

825
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,460
conferences. But this year there were

826
00:31:43,460 --> 00:31:45,760
[clears throat] five. So it was a really

827
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,279
good uh opportunity.

828
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,039
A little bit less participation from

829
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,960
some of the mayors around the state. Um

830
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,399
I think most that's probably due to

831
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:58,159
fires. Um but we had sessions on leading

832
00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:00,320
with purpose, civility, and working

833
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,440
together uh in the community. Gave more

834
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,640
community involvement engagement. Uh we

835
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,279
discussed the 2026

836
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:13,440
uh legislature 27th session. I'm on the

837
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000
government affairs committee for LOC.

838
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,480
And so we had a lot of talk about what

839
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,320
we're going to focus on, what had some

840
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,440
wins, some losses this last short

841
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,399
session. Um,

842
00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:27,760
so we're going to be discussing some of

843
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,440
that a little bit later in the meeting.

844
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,200
The other one is returning stability to

845
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,960
governance. And what that is is making

846
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,320
sure that we don't have

847
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,919
such heated uh arguments. Unfortunately,

848
00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:44,480
in our organization, we don't. We tend

849
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,320
to get along pretty well. I'm thankful

850
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,519
for that. And then the biggest one I

851
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:51,440
found be the most interesting was how

852
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,960
the state and federal courts have

853
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,000
impacted Oregon cities in the past year.

854
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,399
And if you've watched the news and read

855
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:00,559
the paper, it's been a lot a lot of

856
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,080
stuff that's come down in the courts um

857
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,399
positive and negatives.

858
00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:09,360
uh about

859
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,519
probably the biggest negatives were a

860
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,240
lot of uh unfunded mandates uh coming

861
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,960
down and the court saying uh no you

862
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,720
can't do that. There were two cases

863
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,399
where

864
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,480
they kind of dropped the ball and didn't

865
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,120
address them. Uh there's some court

866
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,279
cases coming up uh that probably won't

867
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,279
be doing anything for the next at least

868
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,679
year, possibly two that's going to have

869
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:34,960
some positive impact on Oregon cities

870
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,720
and LOC will be sending out some

871
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,960
information on that hopefully in the

872
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,240
next month or two. Um, and then part of

873
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,760
my

874
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,600
reason for going in is remote expat

875
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,600
and

876
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,399
was nice to print off some some pages

877
00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:54,720
and I got a lot of those distributed.

878
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,279
Lots of positive responses,

879
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,919
a lot of responses from communities in

880
00:34:01,919 --> 00:34:04,799
eastern Oregon, central Oregon, and the

881
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:08,480
coastal uh communities.

882
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,119
And I was surprised when one of the LC

883
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:14,800
lobbyists that was there um spoke very

884
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,040
highly of what Smack's been doing. So I

885
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,560
think we're we're seeing some uh

886
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,280
positive return on our investment time

887
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,960
and money. Uh there was one of the uh

888
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,040
governors

889
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,839
oh at the term basically regional

890
00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:34,800
advisors was there and and spoken very

891
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,480
highly and said that the governor is

892
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,679
quite impressed with smack. Um so the

893
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,760
governor's hearing about it we're making

894
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,200
decent headway.

895
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,599
>> So

896
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,119
>> that's awesome to hear since it's like

897
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:48,240
new and we're just pushing it again. I

898
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:50,720
think part of what it is we had our

899
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:54,879
first way at our first outing that gets

900
00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:58,560
their attention. So

901
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,680
that's that. That's what I have for us.

902
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,950
Any questions, comments?

903
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,000
» That be it.

904
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,470
>> That's it. So we have old business.

905
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,520
» Didn't share that.

906
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,599
>> Yeah, he did. But he's here now. Okay.

907
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,119
>> Yeah.

908
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:20,720
>> You have anything to add to your

909
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,800
presentation?

910
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,400
>> Not really. Unless somebody has

911
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,240
questions about stuff going on outside

912
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,079
of poly. We've had a lot of stuff.

913
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:28,640
>> Yeah.

914
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,079
>> On social media.

915
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:31,599
>> Yeah.

916
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:35,520
>> We had two deputies um that were at the

917
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,760
scene of an offer ball shooting recently

918
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,880
up next.

919
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,520
>> Yeah.

920
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,400
>> Um we had a drowning recently. We've had

921
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,359
quite a few um rescues and stuff going

922
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:47,520
on up in the mountains

923
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,920
where hiker have passed away. U actually

924
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,280
somebody we had a recent rescue up there

925
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,320
where that person is actually still up

926
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,240
there because the terrain so rough they

927
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,240
can't do recovery.

928
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,880
>> Um so it doesn't like affect Holly but

929
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,040
it does in a way because we send so many

930
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,920
resources away to some of these big

931
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,480
calls. Um, I think Jenna uh does a great

932
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,040
job of staying in touch. Um, and you can

933
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,960
always reach out to me, but if you see

934
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,520
some of this stuff on Facebook, um, that

935
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,720
offer involved shooting in wheel

936
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,800
crazy stuff. It was an active shooter.

937
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,920
There were bodies everywhere, you know,

938
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,599
like crazy crazy stuff. Um, I think she

939
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,240
and I are quick to respond to stuff like

940
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,839
that. you know, email us, um, reach out

941
00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:41,520
to anybody at the city. They can reach

942
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,280
out to us. Doesn't have to be related to

943
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,640
Holly. If you're curious about

944
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,720
something, we don't have to wait 30 days

945
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,119
for a meeting like this that, you know,

946
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,119
we can try to get answers for you guys.

947
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:55,520
But, um, I feel like summer has gone

948
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,079
smooth, but the last couple weeks, it's

949
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,000
like trying to leave its mark.

950
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,800
>> Yeah.

951
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,960
>> And a lot of a lot of bigger calls

952
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,839
starting to pop up. has taken

953
00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:07,760
a large amount of resources that

954
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,839
attracts the public's attention and then

955
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:11,760
they start making up a whole bunch of

956
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,079
stories. So, um, nothing really for

957
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:20,240
Holly. Um, but yeah, re reach out if you

958
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,839
have questions. Again, doesn't have to

959
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:24,000
be about Holly.

960
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,000
I know you and I talked when the 99

961
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
project was wrapping up and had concerns

962
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,320
about speeding and stuff like that.

963
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,400
seeing that to be an issue.

964
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,079
>> Uh to be an issue, no.

965
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:36,560
>> Yeah.

966
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,800
>> Um but

967
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,320
there's always going to be speed,

968
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:40,640
>> right?

969
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,000
>> You're always going to have a car that

970
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,240
like zip through somewhere like we just

971
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,520
heard a couple minutes ago.

972
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,599
>> Yeah. [laughter]

973
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,760
>> So I pay attention to that stuff.

974
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,480
>> I didn't.

975
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,720
>> Yeah. Um so you're always going to have

976
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,720
a car that speeds. I came from a council

977
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,680
meeting an hour ago and their complaint

978
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,920
was on speeding, but the reader board

979
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,440
doesn't show that. We have some other

980
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,640
data we can access. It doesn't show

981
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,160
speeding a concern to where like Jenna

982
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,880
should 12 hours of the 12 hour shift

983
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,079
trying to

984
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:15,920
>> right. You're always going to have that

985
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,839
car that trips through that upset

986
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:20,320
someone, but it's not a chronic issue

987
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,520
that we're seeing that

988
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,560
needs addressed regularly, but we're

989
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,480
always keeping our eye out with radar

990
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,880
looking from the one car that that does

991
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,680
it.

992
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,599
>> I'm glad to hear that. No, we had

993
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,520
concern initially. So,

994
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,839
>> I just saw a

995
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:40,480
>> the speed sign down at the end of town,

996
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,839
>> right?

997
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:43,200
>> I just saw it there.

998
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,320
>> Yeah, I saw that.

999
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,520
>> Okay.

1000
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,510
No, I think you had a question.

1001
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,000
» So the car that we just heard earlier is

1002
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,200
that I mean when I hear that same speed

1003
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,599
is that like too loud or

1004
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:07,589
>> he was definitely speed [laughter]

1005
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,320
of speed. It's like speed racing. So

1006
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,640
let's say you don't speak but you go

1007
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,800
zero to 35 miles an hour as fast as you

1008
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,960
can. That's exhibition speed. There's no

1009
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,800
reason for

1010
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,680
gun.

1011
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,680
>> Yeah. You got it, but then you reach the

1012
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,760
speed limit and then you let off. That's

1013
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,119
still a violation. You can't go zero.

1014
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:32,560
>> Yeah. Can't use the car to like show off

1015
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,560
or exhibit, you know, the capability.

1016
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,839
>> So let's say he wasn't going fast.

1017
00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:42,960
speedwise. The fact that he went from

1018
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,839
the soft side to here and I can tell by

1019
00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:47,520
like the RPMs and stuff, there's no

1020
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,800
reason. So, he would get talked to and

1021
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,839
say like, "Okay, I can't believe that

1022
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:56,640
you're speeding, but the fact that you

1023
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,750
accept

1024
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,839
» Thank you.

1025
00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:04,000
>> Yes. [laughter]

1026
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,760
>> In layman's term." Yes.

1027
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,960
>> Yep.

1028
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,320
Brianna, while I'm thinking about it,

1029
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,760
we're talking about traffic. And for you

1030
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,920
guys, since you're here, too. The hay

1031
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,560
trucks right now are flying by the park

1032
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,400
again down O. And I was at the park

1033
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,680
today with the kids and watched three of

1034
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,160
them run the stop sign.

1035
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,640
>> Yep. On 99. They like

1036
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,960
>> um from O like going to 99 like up

1037
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,760
towards Harrisburg. Just kind of went

1038
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,000
>> like a real real California stop there.

1039
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,320
Um, but they've been they've been coming

1040
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,520
real quick up and down like burning on

1041
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,240
to

1042
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:41,920
>> Yeah, it's been really bad the last

1043
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,160
since like just picked up really hard

1044
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:54,550
right now. Um, they're not

1045
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,319
» Brianna has a pretty good relationship

1046
00:40:56,319 --> 00:40:57,760
with some of the companies down there,

1047
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,960
so she she talks to them often.

1048
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:09,430
Yeah,

1049
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,520
» contracts, you know.

1050
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,040
>> Yeah.

1051
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,480
>> They've been getting a little frisky on

1052
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,390
O.

1053
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,520
» Anybody else?

1054
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,920
Thank you.

1055
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,240
So, now we're going to move on to old

1056
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,309
business.

1057
00:41:30,319 --> 00:41:32,960
the proposed street vacation of West A

1058
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,319
and West B Street.

1059
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:37,839
We received an update on the status of

1060
00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:39,680
the vacation and prepare for executive

1061
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520
session.

1062
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,880
You would

1063
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,160
>> um yeah, you know, it's really a

1064
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,079
timeline. This application has been a

1065
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:47,920
bit of a there's some weird stuff going

1066
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,079
on over there talk about. There is the a

1067
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,560
street which has

1068
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,599
an overlying ownership by one party with

1069
00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:59,520
a budding a surrounding ownership of

1070
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,839
another party and then there's also the

1071
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:03,839
underlying predated ownership of the

1072
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:06,800
city have a plat predates everything and

1073
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,960
so when we receive information we we do

1074
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,839
our due diligence we work with engineers

1075
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:18,630
and we take applications but

1076
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,240
there has been some issues about whether

1077
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,560
or not that that a street piece in

1078
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,480
particular um is under question. And so

1079
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,680
we just want to make sure that we're

1080
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,400
doing our absolute due diligence on that

1081
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,520
matter. Um we need to make sure that the

1082
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,640
initial application is valid and we need

1083
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,119
to really hold and discuss with our

1084
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,839
legal counsel before we proceed. And so

1085
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:43,680
that is why we've really done the

1086
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,200
executive session is to make sure that

1087
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,040
we're talking those issues through. we

1088
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,200
have that opportunity to have, you know,

1089
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,880
council with our legal and that we're

1090
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,720
making all the correct steps because

1091
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:58,240
that has always been the city's intent that we don't want to have a

1092
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,480
misstep. We want correct information so

1093
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,920
that we can so you guys can make

1094
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,560
informed corrections.

1095
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,160
>> So, are we getting good information from

1096
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,400
the county?

1097
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,520
You know,

1098
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,040
there's there's a lot of research that

1099
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,560
went into this even before the initial

1100
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,160
application and um Audrey spent a lot of

1101
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,119
time on it. So that that area period, it

1102
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:22,800
has that weird six foot section,

1103
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,599
>> right,

1104
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:25,599
>> between the and the south property

1105
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,920
owners. That is very unusual. That does

1106
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,560
not happen. So that sixoot section is

1107
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,680
part of the church plot, but it is like

1108
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,960
doesn't make sense,

1109
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,280
>> right? Um so we had to do a ton of

1110
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,079
research on that and then again um you

1111
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:42,319
know we're getting deed history through

1112
00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:45,119
the engineers. We have contacted the

1113
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,040
county and the county has you know I've

1114
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,119
just been like

1115
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:52,800
the existence of the row and whether or

1116
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,160
not the afferment and what information

1117
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,800
they have on it. Um what information how

1118
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,880
they interpret the the existing the deed

1119
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,640
record and all those things like that we

1120
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,520
use the county as the agency of record

1121
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,520
with situations. We don't try to make it

1122
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,760
up. They are the agency who determines

1123
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,839
how land is distributed. Also, when we

1124
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:11,839
do vacations, we must report them with

1125
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:14,560
the county or they don't exist,

1126
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,119
>> right?

1127
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:16,880
>> And so, the county is the one that gets

1128
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,800
to determine how those are distributed.

1129
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,880
We don't have the authority to do that.

1130
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,720
We have the authority to vacate or not

1131
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:26,560
to vacate, period. And so, again, if you

1132
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,319
have an application, it's it's very

1133
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:31,119
common for our street vacation 99.9% of

1134
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:33,119
the time to be a central lane split. And

1135
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:34,800
so when you have an applicant that's a

1136
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,119
property, we took an application of that

1137
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:38,480
regard. We just want to make sure that

1138
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,480
we're doing

1139
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,720
everything right. That is really what it

1140
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,400
is. We want to make sure that the

1141
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,319
application is valid. We want to make

1142
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:47,280
sure that we're making the right

1143
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,800
decisions with all of the information

1144
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,040
because

1145
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,760
>> the city doesn't actually benefit from

1146
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,200
anything else for that. Like we don't

1147
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,040
benefit from it at all, frankly.

1148
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,760
>> Right. Um so we c council has agreed

1149
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,880
that they would like to move to an

1150
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,079
executive session on that. Um

1151
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,800
we have scheduled an executive session.

1152
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,480
That date is actually set for August

1153
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,000
26th.

1154
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,240
Um you know it's unfortunate that this

1155
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,720
has taken some time but that is the

1156
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,400
time. Let me double check. Let me triple

1157
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,560
check that.

1158
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,040
Um but once once we sort of confer on

1159
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,920
that we'll be able to come back for a

1160
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,079
street in particular but also any action

1161
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:35,839
on B Street. We currently do not have an active application on street. I also

1162
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:37,040
want to make that clear

1163
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,960
>> because it was voted on it and we voted

1164
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,920
down.

1165
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,160
>> If if another application comes forward,

1166
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,400
I think that we are informed by this

1167
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400
process with any new developments, you

1168
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,240
know, and so certainly council has the

1169
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,680
opportunity to hear that matter again

1170
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,480
based off of any report and there may

1171
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,400
be, you know, that's important for

1172
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,680
making the decision. If there's new

1173
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,119
information, there's new information. At

1174
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,119
the time, we had an applicant that said,

1175
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:03,520
I don't have any plans.

1176
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,119
So, that's kind of where we're at on

1177
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,079
that.

1178
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,800
>> We have any new information?

1179
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,319
>> Um, we did hear from Kelsey Pim in

1180
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:16,319
email. Um, she did mention that she

1181
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:17,760
wanted me to speak and she may have some

1182
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,280
information which we would love to have

1183
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,760
regarding potential previous vacation,

1184
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,040
which again the county does not have

1185
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,480
record of. Um, and

1186
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,319
>> actually the county surveyor's website

1187
00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:31,680
>> of a previous vacation.

1188
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,119
>> Yeah. written right on thereated

1189
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:39,190
8.178.

1190
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,800
» So my question is why is the county

1191
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,319
providing that for us that

1192
00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:44,800
>> yeah I mean I

1193
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,839
that's a very good question it answers

1194
00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:52,400
the we always you look at the I should

1195
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,119
have brought multiple

1196
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:57,040
but

1197
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,480
you look at the

1198
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,599
>> you on the assessor website.

1199
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:02,160
Yeah,

1200
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,920
>> the surveyor.

1201
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,560
>> I did. And I should have I thought I

1202
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,720
printed it, but I didn't. So, it's

1203
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,720
always been here. I don't know if you

1204
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,520
guys can see, but so like this is a our

1205
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,520
field, our property line, and we've

1206
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,920
always own this little Lshaped thing

1207
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,359
here, which was street A. And we've

1208
00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:23,520
never really understood where that came

1209
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,359
from. Didn't really care. Um, but that's

1210
00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:29,440
because it was previously vacated. And

1211
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,280
if you look at previous aerial maps um

1212
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,560
which you only have from 60 like

1213
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,440
sometime in the 60s I think it's like 67

1214
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,680
and then you again have it in the 80s

1215
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,520
like there's nothing here like the

1216
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,880
church doesn't exist and then when you

1217
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,119
again have aerial maps in the 80s the

1218
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:51,359
church got built

1219
00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:54,160
and so I'm not and also so did these

1220
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,760
little houses over here. So, um I'm my

1221
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,960
assumption is and so the attorney that

1222
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,079
pointed out to me, hey, because we were

1223
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:07,599
a little lost and so we had a land use

1224
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,240
attorney in Eugene um look at this for

1225
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:14,319
us. And he wrote back to me and said, "I

1226
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:16,720
don't know why a street is an issue. It

1227
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:18,480
was vacated in 1978. Should be a

1228
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,319
non-issue."

1229
00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:24,950
And I was like,

1230
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,440
okay. Um, which makes sense why that is,

1231
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,960
you know, especially when you go log

1232
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440
into GIS, why that's already adjacent to

1233
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,040
our property and in our labeled

1234
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,599
description of our deed.

1235
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:41,359
>> Yeah. So, if you this is just if you go

1236
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:44,880
into GIS. Um, so

1237
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:50,240
I Yeah. So this um I'm writing upside

1238
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,559
down but this is also

1239
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:52,880
>> right

1240
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,680
>> and so this this at one time I think if

1241
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,480
you you can't really tell anymore simply

1242
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,920
because um this is all you know on the

1243
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,680
other side of this was a field but if

1244
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,920
you look at really really really old map

1245
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,079
like at one time this used to be a

1246
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:08,800
street

1247
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,400
>> and it was vacated

1248
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,920
>> and then so and I think what happened so

1249
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,559
we our family bought this property from

1250
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:19,920
Mrs. Bath in the early 1980s. And I

1251
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,160
think what happened is when this got

1252
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,000
vacated, it went to her because if you

1253
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:33,109
look at get the aerial map

1254
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:34,160
so everybody can look at this

1255
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,280
>> if we could. Yes. Um, if I can find my

1256
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,599
again. I need to I emailed my attorney

1257
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,559
today again and I got an automatic reply

1258
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:51,270
that he's on vacation for

1259
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,880
the biggest thing I want I want to make

1260
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,280
sure everyone understands that the more

1261
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,920
information we have, the more accurate

1262
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,680
it says that we can make. Right? That's

1263
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,480
why it's it feels like we're dragging

1264
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,720
our feet, but it's out of abundance of

1265
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:09,760
>> caution. So, this this is um this here,

1266
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,400
if you look in the in the late 60s, this

1267
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,160
none of this exists. This is just big

1268
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,400
field. She owns it and then boom, like

1269
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,920
when you have more another area, it's

1270
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,480
here. And I So, I'm assuming that in 78

1271
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,559
when this got vacated. I don't know. We

1272
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,119
need to find the records. And I was

1273
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,040
wondering, don't you guys have pretty

1274
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,359
compliments? Yes. And so we're gonna

1275
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:31,920
when he gave us that information of 1978

1276
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,839
that is helpful. That gives us like

1277
00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:35,839
>> you could look it like six months prior

1278
00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:37,680
or something. That's what I was thinking

1279
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,000
when he told me that later I'm like

1280
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,720
maybe there's some discussion somewhere.

1281
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:45,280
Um I will just tell you I I did a couple

1282
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,760
years ago a um a couple of century form

1283
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,160
applications. Um, and so I spent quite a

1284
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,440
bit of time in the um the county office.

1285
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,720
And I don't know if you've ever done one

1286
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,800
of those, but it's really extensive and

1287
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,960
you have to show the lineage and like

1288
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,000
all this stuff. And the county is is

1289
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,839
great and the people there are great,

1290
00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:06,640
but there as I'm going through these

1291
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,599
files, I'm finding things that are

1292
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:13,280
misplaced and misfiled like like why is

1293
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,559
this should be like over here and like

1294
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,960
just whoever was in there or whoever was

1295
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:25,119
scanning the microfilm just like it's very difficult to say and my

1296
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:28,079
suspicion is like and how this even got

1297
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:31,040
built onto that like Let's just say this

1298
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,200
is a street, an existing street. Well,

1299
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,800
how did they build that onto a street?

1300
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,800
Like I mean there something got dropped

1301
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,280
somewhere.

1302
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,640
>> Oh, exactly.

1303
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,079
>> That's why we want to make sure we have

1304
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:40,720
all

1305
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:42,800
>> information. So, the reason that the Bee

1306
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,559
Street theme came up is because, as I've

1307
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,559
uh explained to previous people in the

1308
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:53,040
past is we when I a few years ago um

1309
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,760
went to go change insurance companies,

1310
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,520
um one of the things that came up as a

1311
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,079
flag for the insurance company was that

1312
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,400
I had there was this church that had a

1313
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,040
playground and they're they're building

1314
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,880
on our property, right? and they're

1315
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,440
like, um, well, that's a liability. You

1316
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,079
need to get that fixed. Um, and so we

1317
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:16,160
kind of talked to the church and you

1318
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,119
know, okay, they're going around and the church's attorney didn't dispute

1319
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,760
that with us and we hired a survey to do

1320
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,160
a lot line adjustment, which is why they

1321
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,200
said B Street needed to be vacated so we

1322
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,839
could do the lot line adjustment. Okay.

1323
00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:36,640
Um, and but I don't really understand

1324
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,599
like why this and again the attorney was

1325
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,359
like, I don't even know why this is an

1326
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:43,440
issue. It was already vacated.

1327
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:43,839
>> Sure.

1328
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:45,520
>> Um, and it does

1329
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:45,920
>> Yeah.

1330
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,839
>> If we get as much information from you

1331
00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:48,640
as you can.

1332
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,520
>> Yeah. And I I thought I was um and I

1333
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,119
didn't mean to be offensive earlier, but

1334
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:55,359
like it is harvest. I don't have time to

1335
00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:57,440
do any of that.

1336
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,040
when my kids get back in school next

1337
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,920
month, I will, you know, go down the

1338
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,040
courthouse for a day or two and figure,

1339
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,559
you know, do what I can do.

1340
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:06,960
>> Sure.

1341
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,079
>> Um, but I just don't um have time to

1342
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:10,559
roll those.

1343
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,000
>> Well, I think that if you give us what

1344
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,079
you have right now, then we could deal

1345
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:14,400
with

1346
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,760
>> Yeah, I would be very interested where

1347
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,599
you found the thing that said previously

1348
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:18,319
vacation.

1349
00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:22,160
>> Yeah, if you go to the county. So, um,

1350
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,000
>> I don't remember the name of the

1351
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,280
website, but if you just go to the

1352
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,480
county surveys website, and you know

1353
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,960
where you can pull up all the survey,

1354
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,920
>> I believe it's been a few days, but I

1355
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,200
believe when you pull up the main map,

1356
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:40,000
>> it says it's in lim. It says a vacated

1357
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000
and then it has the date and then it has

1358
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,400
I what I'm assuming is the name of the

1359
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,960
surveyor like OC something or other,

1360
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,280
>> right? Okay. Well, whatever information

1361
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,960
you have, if you get to it, that'd be

1362
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,160
great. That'll give us something to look

1363
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,760
forward on.

1364
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,040
>> We already have an executive session

1365
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,119
scheduled. We don't want council them to

1366
00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:58,400
be able to ask any questions, but if

1367
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,680
it's found that we get enough

1368
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,960
information ahead of that that negates

1369
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,400
the need for executive sessions

1370
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,800
>> because the county has like obviously I

1371
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,319
mean, I don't know how I'm going to go

1372
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:10,240
ask how that gets in there, but like

1373
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,000
we've been paying taxes on this for the

1374
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:17,510
last 40 years.

1375
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,079
than you.

1376
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:18,559
>> Yeah.

1377
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:20,480
>> Well, I mean, I think we own it. It says

1378
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,559
that on the thing, so I

1379
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:23,280
>> Yeah.

1380
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,680
>> Well, that there's going to be a

1381
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,880
resolution. It's just a matter of

1382
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,200
getting from point A to point B and

1383
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,480
making sure that everything is in

1384
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,359
alignment. And if somewhere

1385
00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:34,960
the ball has been dropped by the county

1386
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,880
for whatever reason, we need to know

1387
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,119
about it so we can fix, get it fixed.

1388
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:41,520
>> Right. I will also reach out to you. I

1389
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:42,640
think this is really good information.

1390
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,160
It's very informative for H Street.

1391
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,079
Compass. Street is still a matter for

1392
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,000
discussion. I will email you because

1393
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,280
again it's not it's not something we're

1394
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,880
voting on tonight and I just want to

1395
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,680
explain like the now there's not an

1396
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,280
active application. It was already voted

1397
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:55,599
no.

1398
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:58,160
>> Yes. And we discussed that there and the

1399
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,680
reason I haven't filled out a new one is

1400
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,359
because I need we would like to vacate

1401
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:03,920
more than just each state simply because

1402
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,040
the issue is and I as I was explaining

1403
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,240
to Michelle um a couple of months ago is

1404
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,359
that when you pull up if as most people

1405
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:15,200
you know who are just you know not I

1406
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,559
shouldn't say most people but a lot of

1407
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:19,599
people they will pull up um their onx or

1408
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:21,440
whatever you know and they look and it

1409
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,319
looks like there are public rightway all

1410
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:26,160
throughout our

1411
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,839
Right.

1412
00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:31,760
And um and the issue with that is that

1413
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,480
our equipment often gets damaged because

1414
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:43,040
there is you know pens and jeans and um

1415
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,040
things like uh well

1416
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,040
mention um that our combines in death

1417
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,119
and then cost multi thousands of

1418
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:58,240
repairs. Um, also frequently in the um

1419
00:55:58,240 --> 00:55:59,839
when the when the ground is wet and

1420
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:02,319
mucky, we have people, you know, doing

1421
00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:05,440
cookies with the right TVs and and other

1422
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,119
things out there, especially at where

1423
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:09,680
there's the alleyway ends there. I can't

1424
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,520
remember the street, but it's I think

1425
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,359
it's like C or

1426
00:56:13,359 --> 00:56:15,839
>> we're at I think it

1427
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:20,000
>> Yeah. And then over there south of So G

1428
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,920
H that it's frequently they just They're

1429
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,400
always just like

1430
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,160
>> I can't tell you how many people we

1431
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,839
thought

1432
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:33,760
doing that and um we have absolutely no

1433
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,559
intention of ever developing this um

1434
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:37,920
like there's it's just not going to

1435
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,520
happen but

1436
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,480
>> you can't um

1437
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,040
>> you just can't um and so there's just no

1438
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,640
reason for that. So the reason I haven't

1439
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,880
fill refilled that out is because we

1440
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,680
were going to put another

1441
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:59,270
adjoin that with and again

1442
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,880
» there's also I want to give you the

1443
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,400
information about the options for how

1444
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,680
you perceive it because there's a couple

1445
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,640
of them but I will email

1446
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,599
>> that's fine that's fine.

1447
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:08,880
Thank you. That's a

1448
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,079
>> big thing I want to make sure that we

1449
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:13,359
all understand that it behooves us to be

1450
00:57:13,359 --> 00:57:16,400
able to work together probably

1451
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,400
>> and if we start button heads that we're

1452
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,160
going to get nowhere. So, we just got to

1453
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,640
work together and information we have as

1454
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,359
much as we can.

1455
00:57:25,359 --> 00:57:30,150
>> So,

1456
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,760
you want to add to that?

1457
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,480
>> No business. Thank you for coming.

1458
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Helpful information.

1459
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,200
>> Genuinely just want the info so that we

1460
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:44,470
can get this over.

1461
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,760
» That's it for me on that.

1462
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:55,589
>> Okay. Any questions, comments, or

1463
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:56,960
» No.

1464
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,119
>> Uh just to because I know a few of the

1465
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:00,640
counters might not be able to be there.

1466
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Um, can you send out like a text just to

1467
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,040
remind everyone when questions are due

1468
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,960
to you like at the end of the week?

1469
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:07,520
>> Yes.

1470
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:17,589
>> Thank you.

1471
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:20,000
» Okay,

1472
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:27,589
we move on to new business.

1473
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:32,400
Earth is LOC legislative priorities.

1474
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,760
You guys have a good chance to look at

1475
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,440
those

1476
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,150
any questions, comments.

1477
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,960
I don't think any questions you have on

1478
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,920
is I'm on sit on that committee. So

1479
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,670
information I can get back.

1480
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,680
So there's if you get that list, choose

1481
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:59,430
four, six. Hopefully you have already,

1482
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:11,270
please let me know.

1483
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,270
» Do you guys want to go straight?

1484
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,040
» No. No. We need you for just a little

1485
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,160
bit longer.

1486
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:28,549
>> Yeah.

1487
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:30,000
» Thank you for being here though.

1488
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,160
>> Yes.

1489
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,839
>> If you have any questions about them,

1490
00:59:33,839 --> 00:59:38,230
please let me know.

1491
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:43,270
» Hold up for this list.

1492
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,799
» I would be curious if anything stands

1493
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:46,240
out to people at a glance, right? We

1494
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,079
need to come up with a few. we have this

1495
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:49,920
month and next month and so

1496
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:50,319
>> right

1497
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:52,720
>> we have time. It would be nice if

1498
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,480
anybody has anything that stood out to

1499
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,799
them was like, "Ah, that's fantastic."

1500
00:59:56,799 --> 01:00:00,470
>> Right.

1501
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,119
» If you want to think about emailing me,

1502
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:05,520
texting,

1503
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,030
>> I'll be out there.

1504
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,839
» Um, one that stands out to me, that's

1505
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:12,400
okay.

1506
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,880
>> Yes.

1507
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,280
>> Okay. One, May I chime in?

1508
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:15,520
>> Yeah.

1509
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,599
>> One that stands out to me is targeted

1510
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:18,880
prevailing wage changes.

1511
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,799
>> Yes. We've talked a lot about how a

1512
01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:23,119
prevailing wage cost impacts the cost of

1513
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,280
projects and the threshold for what

1514
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,040
pushes something into a prevailing wage

1515
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,559
project or a public

1516
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:34,640
I can't public goods project I

1517
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,799
don't know anyways um the threshold

1518
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:42,319
instead of 50,000

1519
01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:44,000
>> so it hasn't been updated a long time so

1520
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,480
once you hit

1521
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,400
a public project or a public works

1522
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,240
project once you hit 50,000 in a book

1523
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,440
and that means that you didn't have to

1524
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,520
do all the bully prevailing wage. So

1525
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,880
that means that like the guy with

1526
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,280
cooking and broom being paid $4 like it

1527
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,440
just I'm and

1528
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,000
I'm not saying that I don't want to see

1529
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,359
or trades people in a brew call or

1530
01:01:05,359 --> 01:01:06,799
people making good money but I think

1531
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:13,200
that it makes um I think that it is

1532
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,440
perhaps not the most efficient

1533
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:15,920
>> right

1534
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,319
>> effective and responsible use of public

1535
01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:20,000
funds

1536
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,440
frequently I mean even our grants are

1537
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,599
often taxpayer dollars

1538
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:25,440
um our project, our money is taxpayer

1539
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,240
dollars or it's a feast. Um it is public

1540
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,040
money and so that prevailing wage

1541
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,839
threshold we see a need for it to be

1542
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:36,640
raised so that that project limit

1543
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,880
doesn't get hit until higher. They are

1544
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,880
proposing 86,000. The other reason why

1545
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,559
this one falls on my radar is because

1546
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:44,319
our tax efforts are coming up with some

1547
01:01:44,319 --> 01:01:46,160
policy

1548
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:51,109
priorities and one of them

1549
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:53,520
on their and we also support this. I

1550
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,440
will say however that we think 6,000 is

1551
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,280
dismal

1552
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,720
actually with what it would be if it

1553
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,359
would have kept number 10.

1554
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:06,400
>> And so we're our our policy is actually

1555
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,559
quite a bit higher above 200,000 because

1556
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:14,160
>> a $50,000 project is like nothing and it

1557
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:19,119
>> might have a ceiling at all.

1558
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:20,720
Um

1559
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:21,760
>> anyway,

1560
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,359
>> I think that to to object to and to undo

1561
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:27,760
the existence mining wage is another

1562
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,670
discussion. [laughter]

1563
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,760
» Yes.

1564
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,200
>> Project to that requirement is too low.

1565
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,960
I would agree. And and when I say it

1566
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,200
truly double project, it truly doubles

1567
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,440
the cost of a project. I have an example

1568
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,520
in my back pocket from Brownsville where

1569
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,240
they had a bathroom project that they

1570
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,040
had gone in and were going to be where

1571
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,040
it was estimated to be, you know,

1572
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,680
$49,000.

1573
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,280
And so they were advised that they

1574
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,400
should just go ahead with the

1575
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,720
procurement that would assume a bid

1576
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,799
higher than that because one change

1577
01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:04,240
order, just one whatever would have put

1578
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,400
them in that special in trouble

1579
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,400
>> for not following your procurement p

1580
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,000
practice and not doing the bullying

1581
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,760
prevailing weight. And so when they went

1582
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,520
to bid, they they put in a requirements

1583
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,280
for prevailing wage and it was a 90 I

1584
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,359
would say $96,000 for one per bathroom.

1585
01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:22,160
That is the kind of impact

1586
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,240
that

1587
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,920
this

1588
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,599
kind of impact to how much money it cost

1589
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,280
to complete a project. And that's also

1590
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,039
when you see things where like people

1591
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:32,480
say, I don't understand why the school

1592
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:33,920
can't fix this or the city can't fix

1593
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,520
this or why would the project cost that

1594
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,520
much. We are subject to much more

1595
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,400
scrutiny in our design in our

1596
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,079
expectation the things we have to put

1597
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:44,400
into projects but reporting requirements

1598
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,839
all those things and we are subject to

1599
01:03:47,839 --> 01:03:50,079
this public impairment rule that means

1600
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:53,839
that immediately the trucks

1601
01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:57,119
it's it's on average about 40%. is huge

1602
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:00,319
and it's pretty I mean small communities

1603
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:05,920
predominantly are being hammered or and having projects when they can't

1604
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,039
complete their water systems or anything

1605
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:12,640
like that because of that. Um

1606
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,000
there's two others that are really

1607
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,240
important to uh the governing committee.

1608
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,240
One is the administrative procedures act

1609
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,200
forth and what that is it's the rules

1610
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,480
that state agencies must follow

1611
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,839
and over the years it has gotten murkier

1612
01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:30,079
and murkier and murkier where it was

1613
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:32,319
originally designed for transparency and

1614
01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:34,960
it is anything but

1615
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,640
um and what that would do is force state

1616
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,119
to kind of

1617
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:43,440
I don't say reign in uh agencies

1618
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,280
but as would the state legislature,

1619
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,920
there's oversight when they create laws,

1620
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,799
but once it gets down to an agency who

1621
01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:55,039
creates administrative rules, there is

1622
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:58,240
almost zero oversight. And we run into

1623
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,839
that as a small committee when you're

1624
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:02,319
trying to

1625
01:05:02,319 --> 01:05:06,559
do wells and and and water systems to

1626
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:07,920
where you talk to one person in the

1627
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,559
agency and they say one thing and and

1628
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:11,920
another person you talk to says

1629
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,079
something completely different and get a

1630
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:16,079
bottleneck.

1631
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:18,559
So that's trying to get that

1632
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:22,079
clearly updated from 1971 to today you

1633
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:25,280
know. Uh then the next one's public

1634
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,880
meeting law clarity and that's

1635
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,760
predominantly towards uh the Oregon

1636
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,400
government ethics commission and

1637
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,960
there's never really been an intentions

1638
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,240
requirement that the proven intent and

1639
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,240
just we think you are that's it. Uh but

1640
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,680
there's more than that too. uh the hot

1641
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,480
dog rule. Remember guys talking about

1642
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,400
that where

1643
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,960
um if we have a meeting planning meeting

1644
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,599
we can't provide boot because it's

1645
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:00,960
considered payment kind that got a lot

1646
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,960
of push back and OGAC resented that so

1647
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,799
that that's where they're starting to

1648
01:06:06,799 --> 01:06:09,440
realize oh maybe we are overstepping

1649
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,400
u so those are the two real big ones uh

1650
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,000
that we've talked about. So, if you have

1651
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,119
any other concern, shoot me a text. Let

1652
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:19,680
me know.

1653
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,240
And if there's anything that kind of

1654
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,760
boggles your mind right now on those,

1655
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,440
>> the land availability one was kind of

1656
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,000
interesting for me since um the land

1657
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,000
availability and streamlining,

1658
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,280
>> right?

1659
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,960
And also to an extent the water

1660
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,480
workforce development since we talked

1661
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,799
about that with the guy all the training

1662
01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:40,480
programs especially like because it's

1663
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,640
going to affect us when Andy retires and

1664
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:43,520
we start having to

1665
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,559
>> he's not I'm sure he's allowed to ever

1666
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:48,319
>> at some point I think his wife

1667
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:50,160
>> well I'm sure

1668
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,400
>> but anyway um we can move on from that

1669
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,960
so if you have anything you want

1670
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:55,599
let me know.

1671
01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:59,359
>> Thank you.

1672
01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:02,960
Um, so I want to make some stars on this

1673
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,480
so that when we come back next month

1674
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:10,160
that we're ready now together,

1675
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,640
>> right?

1676
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,720
>> Good. We already have some ideas.

1677
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,200
>> Yeah. So I I heard availability

1678
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,520
had mine that was about the goal we have

1679
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,240
to be on the wage and then you said the

1680
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,839
administrative

1681
01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:26,720
time

1682
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,200
>> uh the administrative uh

1683
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,200
>> the general government committee the

1684
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,680
public meeting the administrative

1685
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,119
procedures act reform.

1686
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:37,839
>> Yeah

1687
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:39,200
public meeting

1688
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:50,470
>> that was mine.

1689
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,559
and then the water.

1690
01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:53,200
>> Yeah.

1691
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,400
>> Okay.

1692
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,720
>> So, if there's more, let me know. Chat

1693
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,839
about them. And then,

1694
01:07:57,839 --> 01:07:59,839
>> um, as I was going through it, as I was

1695
01:07:59,839 --> 01:08:01,599
taking notes as I was like thinking

1696
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:03,119
things, I'll send them to you. Do you

1697
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:04,880
want to be CCed on an email? Like, do

1698
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,119
you guys both want the

1699
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:09,520
like thoughts or questions on any of

1700
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,520
these specifically?

1701
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,599
Um, one of the things that we have to be

1702
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,440
careful about is sending these to

1703
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,880
multiple council members. So, send

1704
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:19,600
the two of you.

1705
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:20,480
>> Then that would be

1706
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:21,520
>> Yeah, that's what I was saying. Do you

1707
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,719
want it too or do you just want us to

1708
01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:23,920
send it to mayor?

1709
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,279
>> That's fine. And then we'll bring them

1710
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:27,040
back. We have to bring them back at the

1711
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,199
next public meeting. We'll any any notes

1712
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:31,440
we'll we'll make sure to bring forward.

1713
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:32,960
>> If you want to send it to me, I can get

1714
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:37,829
from create a spreadsheet of ranking.

1715
01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:40,000
» And you can't discuss it,

1716
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,617
>> right? Yes.

1717
01:08:42,617 --> 01:08:47,430
[clears throat]

1718
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:49,040
» I'll send you

1719
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,640
>> you can you can ask questions about

1720
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,799
LOC's intent please. That's can't have

1721
01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:57,600
ongoing conversation

1722
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,359
other than you clarify.

1723
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:02,719
So if you have nothing else we can move

1724
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:06,550
on.

1725
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,400
We have to figure out the last topic.

1726
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,719
>> Yeah. For October.

1727
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:17,910
>> Well, I'll

1728
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:18,799
go hunting.

1729
01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:19,199
>> Yeah.

1730
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:21,920
>> On the record. So, that season is what

1731
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,719
it is,

1732
01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:23,440
>> right?

1733
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:25,359
>> And so, we have some date. I did get a

1734
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:26,719
hold of LLC about some training

1735
01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:27,920
opportunities. They're on pause for

1736
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,520
training. So, it's actually not a good

1737
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:30,880
option for us right now.

1738
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,040
>> Um, it sounded like a good idea to me,

1739
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,279
but it's not going to work out.

1740
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:36,880
Um they do actually have their rentals

1741
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,440
trainings coming up again states are

1742
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:43,120
available that's you know ever

1743
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,279
um so good opportunity here in the

1744
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:46,719
middle of the week I asked them about

1745
01:09:46,719 --> 01:09:47,920
that I know we're in the lead we lead

1746
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,199
weeds I said have you considered

1747
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:51,120
salaries

1748
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,440
most people work that are on city

1749
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:55,280
councils and they have a lot of reasons

1750
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,679
why that is not peaceful for them so I I

1751
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:00,640
am also looking into they do on the go

1752
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:01,920
training

1753
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,440
>> when when people are able to attend the

1754
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,159
trainings that they offer They are free

1755
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:08,320
so that's always nice. It's just driving

1756
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,480
there but there are options to bring

1757
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:12,560
people in. It does have a fee associated

1758
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,880
but it's not astronomical. So really

1759
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,640
good training opportunities and

1760
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,159
something that I do look into is holding

1761
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:21,760
you know every other year when we don't

1762
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,120
do our goal setting holding a work

1763
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,280
session that just dedicate to training.

1764
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,080
There is

1765
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,360
>> not a work session, but I'm just saying

1766
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,920
we hold a training in one time a year

1767
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,520
when we don't have full setting

1768
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,313
>> and this is a little bit further out but

1769
01:10:33,313 --> 01:10:36,239
[clears throat] the 25th of February um

1770
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:39,120
there's a catchall

1771
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,600
uh virtual online so

1772
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,239
>> that's a little

1773
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:45,360
catch all

1774
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,480
>> I don't even know what I'm doing in

1775
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:47,199
September.

1776
01:10:47,199 --> 01:10:49,440
>> Yeah.

1777
01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:51,679
Well,

1778
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:54,640
their Lexi Essentials workshop, they're

1779
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,640
going to be setting some online

1780
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,239
trainings for those.

1781
01:10:58,239 --> 01:11:01,360
>> So, it keep an eye on the LC website for

1782
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:08,390
the training section.

1783
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,199
But the the OG one, they paused out of

1784
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,480
that because it was found that

1785
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:18,159
trainings that that was trying to get

1786
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:20,800
approved through OG,

1787
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,360
they were not getting approved and then

1788
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,600
did a test where they took another

1789
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,400
agency to end their training that was

1790
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,520
approved by OG, change the name and

1791
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,920
still got rejected.

1792
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,000
So that's what that's what they paused.

1793
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,800
Okay.

1794
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,120
>> Yeah.

1795
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,280
>> Okay. So scheduling. Got

1796
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,920
>> way off topic. I started it.

1797
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,840
>> Um

1798
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,480
so the October meeting, we have some

1799
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:52,800
options. We could recess for October. Um

1800
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,719
if we don't have any pressing business,

1801
01:11:54,719 --> 01:11:57,280
we can set it for the third Tuesday,

1802
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:58,880
which is kind of the placeholder that we

1803
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,560
they always hold for council meetings,

1804
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,560
which is the 20th. I would suggest we

1805
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,159
just hold that placeholder and if

1806
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:05,679
there's no pressing business, council

1807
01:12:05,679 --> 01:12:07,360
can sort of decide what in the September

1808
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:08,960
meeting if they want to proceed with

1809
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,880
that date. The September meeting,

1810
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,000
the reason why I'm recommending that we

1811
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,960
the third Tuesday instead of the 8th is

1812
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,239
because of that timeline that I was

1813
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:22,080
talking about way, you know, right long

1814
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,840
ago about the ini,

1815
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,960
>> right? DQ has stated they need two weeks

1816
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,480
to review the close the post the

1817
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:34,159
timeline to post our intent to award is

1818
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:35,440
August 31st

1819
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:35,920
>> right

1820
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,600
>> that is in alignment with all the other

1821
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,760
previous things which is like how many

1822
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,280
how long it needs to be open our time to

1823
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,760
apply to to open bids when the bids

1824
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,000
close we review them all those things

1825
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,640
>> so that gives us seven days

1826
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:49,120
>> really

1827
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:49,600
>> right

1828
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,600
>> between our no intent to award and again

1829
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,760
during that one week you have to approve

1830
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,280
it before we could actually award it in

1831
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,159
our council meeting. So they told me

1832
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:05,280
that they prefer three weeks.

1833
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,360
So if they don't have it approved by

1834
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,800
then we would have to wait all the way

1835
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,280
until we would we would have to hold

1836
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,360
special sessionally.

1837
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,040
>> We would not wait until October.

1838
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:15,440
>> Yeah.

1839
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:16,800
>> We would have to hold special session

1840
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,679
because we have to award once

1841
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:21,840
it's approved. We have a timeline toward

1842
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,000
>> Right. So,

1843
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,280
um, that would be September.

1844
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,880
I have to look

1845
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,080
>> 15th. 15th.

1846
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,440
>> Yeah. And I know that that's, you know,

1847
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:33,280
it feels like not great timing because

1848
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,760
October was already being rescheduled,

1849
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,320
>> but

1850
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,360
it makes sense though.

1851
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,120
>> We could either keep our regular meeting

1852
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,199
and have a placeholder for a special

1853
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:45,120
session just to deal with the topic of

1854
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,199
the award or we would a full meeting and

1855
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:48,719
deal with it at that time. So, those are

1856
01:13:48,719 --> 01:13:51,280
the the options for council. Move the

1857
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,560
meeting. I did.

1858
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,080
>> Yep. I'd move the meeting.

1859
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:54,560
>> Yeah,

1860
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,400
>> it's easier for me anyway. That is the

1861
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,719
first day of school, so I prefer not.

1862
01:13:58,719 --> 01:14:00,159
>> Right.

1863
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:01,360
>> And it's right after Labor Day and

1864
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:02,480
barbecue. So, I would

1865
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:02,960
>> Right.

1866
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,840
>> So, September, we have to do this.

1867
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,360
>> Okay.

1868
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,440
>> October.

1869
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:13,199
>> And then

1870
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:15,840
is October like you said, I would favor

1871
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,520
your if you have to the 20th otherwise

1872
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,880
nothing. Right.

1873
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,440
>> Okay. So, tenatively hold the 20th and

1874
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:28,630
if there's no

1875
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,480
» potential I'll be out of town from the

1876
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:37,510
17th to the 24th too. So,

1877
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,000
» no. Next year I

1878
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,960
>> October tenative

1879
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:53,189
20th potential to cancel if not needed.

1880
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:54,880
And as to training, is there any

1881
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,880
training you guys want?

1882
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,360
>> Yes. Thank you.

1883
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,600
>> I always think that you know like public

1884
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,640
meeting rules and all that kind of

1885
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,600
stuff.

1886
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,440
>> Fundamentals like that.

1887
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,360
>> Yeah.

1888
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,280
>> If we could find somebody or

1889
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:12,960
>> shouldn't tech

1890
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,400
>> gone back and forth over the years about

1891
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,159
the whole Robert's rules or whatever.

1892
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:19,280
Not that we fully follow them, but some

1893
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,080
I don't know.

1894
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:25,030
>> Yeah.

1895
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,040
» So, what we can put together?

1896
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,080
>> Yeah. And I will I will send you guys

1897
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,159
they sent me some information from LC on

1898
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,000
that training on the go and so you have

1899
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the pull elected essentials, but you can

1900
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actually cherry pick the topics so you

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don't have to spend eight hours,

1902
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:39,679
>> right?

1903
01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:41,600
>> So, you can say I only want to do two

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hours of driving,

1905
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,679
>> right? And so in that situation, we can

1906
01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:46,800
really I can send that to you because

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they actually give kind of like a little

1908
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,080
summary of the different topics and they

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actually also provide how long they are,

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>> right?

1911
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,880
>> So this one's 90 minutes. This one's

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>> I'd like to spend five and a half hours,

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please.

1914
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,480
>> You know, and the topics are meeting a

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lot of things like what to know about

1916
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,159
land use as an elected official. Just a

1917
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:08,320
cool topic. So I'll send that out to

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folks so that they can have some ideas

1919
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because then in the spring when they are

1920
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allowing training again right

1921
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,719
would be a really cool opportunity.

1922
01:16:18,719 --> 01:16:20,719
>> Yeah.

1923
01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:21,760
>> Okay.

1924
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>> Anybody else comments?

1925
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,080
>> 8:15.

1926
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,120
>> So there's no resolutions ordinances. So

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then we will adjourn at 8:16.

1928
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>> There we [clears throat] go.

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picture. You can see my her first flag.