[0:05] Call the city council meeting of October
[0:07] 11th or August 11, 2026 to order at 7
[0:11] p.m. Please call the roll.
[0:14] Council proper
[0:19] council
[0:20] >> here
[0:30] » please rise and pledge please
[0:35] al to the flag
[0:37] of America.
[0:52] I want to thank each of you who took
[0:53] time to attend tonight. Any guests who
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[1:00] And we're running a hybrid meeting
[1:01] tonight to allow those who wish to
[1:03] attend remotely to do so.
[1:06] do cut down on background noise. Blue
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[1:19] the public hearings and during citizen
[1:21] comments.
[1:23] The next item on the agenda is the
[1:25] consent agenda
[1:29] which contains financial report from
[1:31] July 2026 and the minutes from the
[1:33] council meeting held on July 21st.
[1:39] and vote on these individually or
[1:42] together. I would entertain a motion
[1:47] that the that the governing body of the
[1:49] city of Holly approved the business
[1:51] items in the consent agenda as
[1:53] submitted.
[1:55] >> Second. All in favor?
[1:57] >> I post.
[2:00] >> Thank you very much.
[2:03] Y do we have any agenda adjustments?
[2:06] >> Um we do have one small agenda
[2:09] adjustment and that is the matter we are
[2:10] already discussing some of the upcoming
[2:12] council meetings
[2:14] >> for October. There is a related there is
[2:17] another thing related to the September
[2:19] meeting. So I would like to add the
[2:21] discussion to the September meeting
[2:24] during that time. Okay. during the
[2:27] >> sometime I two
[2:29] >> and then
[2:30] >> oh yeah
[2:31] >> council
[2:33] approves that they can just entertain
[2:35] motion to add the address please.
[2:38] >> Okay.
[2:40] >> Have a question. We seconded the motion
[2:41] I missed.
[2:42] >> I second.
[2:43] >> Okay. Thank you.
[2:47] » So
[2:49] what does council say?
[2:52] >> You see the delegations?
[2:53] >> Yes.
[2:55] Okay.
[3:02] » So, next would be since Link County
[3:05] Sheriff's Office here, are you doing the
[3:06] report, Jen, or Steve?
[3:11] » Okay. You want to do that second or
[3:15] >> um make him circle back to see unless
[3:17] the other wants to present it. She's
[3:19] welcome to. It's up to you.
[3:20] >> Yeah, it's up to you, Jeff. I can I can
[3:22] present it. Okay.
[3:24] So in July of this year, poly usually
[3:27] had 72 contracted hours. Sheriff's
[3:29] office performed 73.25
[3:33] hours, which included two traffic
[3:36] citations, five traffic warnings, zero
[3:39] arrest, and the total number of
[3:41] incidents and investigated were 28.
[3:45] >> Pretty normal.
[3:46] >> Yeah.
[3:47] No story in the property times. There
[3:50] was a
[3:52] uh broken window. The investigation is
[3:55] still ongoing. Uh suspicious persons.
[3:58] Those persons were watching the trains
[4:01] and videoing trains and there was a lot
[4:04] of fireworks.
[4:06] >> Yeah.
[4:12] » Any questions, comments?
[4:15] I have a question on this one.
[4:17] >> Yes.
[4:18] >> Uh assisted another agency with getting
[4:20] a missing person's form signed.
[4:23] >> Yes.
[4:23] >> Is it the missing person signing the
[4:24] form or is it to say
[4:28] >> okay to say that they're missing?
[4:30] >> Yes.
[4:30] >> Okay. I was like, how do you get a
[4:32] missing person to sign a form?
[4:36] >> Okay.
[4:36] >> Yes.
[4:37] >> Thank you.
[4:43] Do you want to discuss the uh
[4:47] meeting now?
[4:50] >> Um
[4:51] >> or you want to move it to new business?
[4:54] >> Okay.
[4:56] >> Yeah.
[5:00] So, some comments,
[5:01] >> right? I just wonder if you want to do
[5:02] that meeting of delegations or new
[5:04] business
[5:07] meeting September.
[5:09] >> Oh, no. We can't talk about that in new
[5:11] business. Okay. I just want to make
[5:13] sure. Yeah.
[5:14] >> What?
[5:15] >> Just want to make sure.
[5:16] >> Okay.
[5:18] >> Next item on the agenda is citizen
[5:21] comment. This is time for interested
[5:23] citizens and anyone in the audience to
[5:24] address the council
[5:27] on any item of concern. Please limit
[5:29] your comments to about three minutes and
[5:30] please start by introducing yourself and
[5:32] stating your address. Um also do we have
[5:35] any written comments?
[5:36] >> We do.
[5:37] >> Okay. Start with that.
[5:38] >> Yes, please.
[5:39] >> Okay. We received a written comment via
[5:41] our comment submission form on August
[5:42] 8th from Mr. Zane Goodwin. Um the
[5:46] comment states
[5:48] in the June 9th city council minutes the
[5:50] city has stated that the H3 project is
[5:52] not considered a land action and that
[5:55] this conclusion has been affirmed by the
[5:56] city planner planning consultant with
[5:58] full council. I'm asking the city to
[6:00] revisit whether the that responsibly
[6:03] addresses appendix A of the Hollyy
[6:05] comprehensive plan. Appendix A section
[6:07] three states that the planning
[6:09] commission shall review and comment on
[6:10] proposed land actions and programs that
[6:12] may impact resources on the housing
[6:14] register of historical resources. Each
[6:17] part of that language matters. It says
[6:18] shall not pay. It includes both land
[6:21] actions and programs, not just land
[6:22] actions. And the threshold is whether
[6:24] something may impact a registered
[6:26] resource, not whether it physically
[6:28] alters and demolishes the historic
[6:29] building in it. The house at 791
[6:33] Westport Street is on these register of
[6:34] historic resources. The city's earlier
[6:36] explanation that there's no permit to
[6:38] alter or demolish the building appears
[6:40] to address a kind of a separate
[6:42] provision concerning alteration of and
[6:44] demolition permits. It does not appear
[6:46] to answer section three uh subsection 4
[6:50] which separately addresses land actions
[6:53] and programs that may impact registered
[6:54] historic resources. This question is
[6:57] more significant now that the August
[6:58] council packet describes the final H
[7:00] street design as including substantial
[7:02] storm water infrastructure, drainage and
[7:04] coverts and added system capacity in an
[7:06] area where most no storm facilities
[7:09] previously existed. Has the city
[7:11] determined whether the H street project
[7:13] is a program that may impact the house
[7:16] under appendix a section 3 section 4? If
[7:19] so, please identify where that
[7:21] determination can. If not, I
[7:23] respectfully ask that to the project be
[7:25] referred to the planning commission for
[7:26] review and comments required by P for
[7:29] construction.
[7:31] >> Okay.
[7:33] But I just want to clarify that in that
[7:36] June meeting we stated it was a land
[7:38] action because the land action was
[7:41] created by the adoption of the top plan
[7:44] and during that land action it
[7:46] identified and which previously I mean
[7:48] the land the road had been plotted since
[7:50] the 1870s but that very specific action
[7:53] was a state requirement to do a
[7:55] transportation component and that
[7:57] transportation component says these are
[7:58] roads
[7:59] >> right
[8:00] >> and they belong to the city and if we
[8:01] use them for roads and we improvements
[8:03] for roads then that's not a action or
[8:06] program. Um and so that is what I just
[8:08] want to provide that kind of clarity
[8:09] that is why it's not only in action is
[8:11] because the action was the comp plan.
[8:13] It's in the comprehensive plan, in the
[8:15] transportation plan, and also in that
[8:17] section of the plan, it says that we'll
[8:19] improve pay. You know, that I'm not I
[8:22] don't want to misspe because I know I'm
[8:24] not speaking verbatim, but it does state
[8:26] that we will improve city roads. And so,
[8:30] we're not trying to be dismissive, but
[8:32] that is why it is not a new action is
[8:34] that it's just literally not classified
[8:36] as a land action.
[8:38] Do
[8:38] >> we have our comp plan posted?
[8:41] Yes.
[8:50] Okay.
[8:52] So, anybody in the audience wish to
[8:54] speak?
[8:58] Okay. Moving on to reports to council.
[9:03] Start with the uh city administrative
[9:05] report.
[9:10] » Okay. So,
[9:13] I don't see
[9:16] >> I know
[9:16] >> don't sit at home and practice
[9:20] your report. So we as you know have lots
[9:23] of projects some large some also large
[9:27] um and the update on inflow and
[9:29] infiltration everything frankly is ready
[9:32] to start really fired up infiltration
[9:35] DQ approved the final bid documents we
[9:38] actually have um gone through we are
[9:41] developing our timelines which is what I
[9:43] will talk about in the September meeting
[9:46] and there are certain things that we're
[9:47] required to do so the DQ is the funding
[9:50] source We are required to send our bid
[9:52] documents to them for approval before we
[9:54] actually open the procurement. And so
[9:56] they've approved, they like the
[9:57] language, we followed all their rules
[9:58] and their contract language stuff. Our
[10:00] legal council reviewed it. Um we added
[10:03] the the things that they asked. They
[10:05] reviewed it again. Final approval. When
[10:08] you do this level of procurement, there
[10:09] are certain timelines that are required.
[10:11] So we have to close for a certain amount
[10:12] of time. We have to provide our notice
[10:15] of intent to award. And then we have to
[10:18] give seven days after posting that
[10:21] notice of intent to award. And it's
[10:22] essentially a period of time where other
[10:24] people can like object to our award and we would have to provide our
[10:30] tabulations and all the things that we
[10:31] use to make our determination for the
[10:33] contract we selected and then council
[10:37] approves our intent to award. So after
[10:40] that 70-day window. Um so that's where
[10:43] we're at. All of those things are
[10:45] timelined through the end of August and
[10:47] interly September. When we have the
[10:50] intent to award and we have the bid
[10:51] packages, we must submit those back to
[10:54] DEEQ.
[10:56] Again, that's why the September part
[10:57] kind of matters, right?
[10:58] >> We have to submit them back to DEEQ
[11:00] before we can actually award. And so
[11:02] they have to review our bid documents,
[11:05] our bids that we receive
[11:07] >> and our selection criteria and say like,
[11:09] yes, we've done everything with
[11:10] Fidelity. And then once they approve the
[11:13] contract be selected, we are allowed to
[11:15] then have council
[11:18] make that final or so lots of things
[11:21] going on with INI. Much of it very
[11:22] technical, timeline driven, not very
[11:25] crowded at all. Um, but that's that's
[11:28] rocking and rolling. That's exciting.
[11:30] Uh, the H Street project, it's design is
[11:32] complete for the H Street project. The
[11:34] final design, again, it it did include
[11:36] some substantial storm water
[11:37] infrastructure. Um,
[11:41] sections over there where we have
[11:42] already done some like French drains and
[11:46] things,
[11:46] >> right?
[11:47] >> So, um you know, just making sure that
[11:50] there's proper pulver works. This also,
[11:51] as you all know, includes a repair to
[11:54] existing storm water infrastructure
[11:56] that's actually pretty substantial. It
[11:57] goes like all the way underneath H
[11:59] Street and and then to the north like
[12:02] 300 feet or so. That's an exaggeration
[12:06] for sure. I'm wrong on this photo. Like
[12:08] 100 feet, but it's a lot. So the whole
[12:10] length of it is quite a bit,
[12:11] >> right?
[12:12] >> And so that's, you know, those those
[12:13] things need to be done while the road
[12:15] bed is dug up,
[12:16] >> right?
[12:17] >> But they're adding cost to the project.
[12:19] Some of those project costs there is um
[12:22] some opportunity for us to use some
[12:24] SDCs, but those are very limited
[12:26] opportunities. And so we want to be very
[12:28] diligent about our research in that
[12:29] regard. We are going to bid on this. We
[12:33] would like to we are working on the bid
[12:35] language to ensure that we're protecting
[12:37] ourselves to have the withhold the right
[12:40] to cancel the procurement and move the
[12:42] larger procurement or cancel items
[12:44] within the scope in order to get things
[12:46] within budget. Those are all things that
[12:47] we're allowed to do. You just want to be
[12:48] very very clear in the invitation to bid
[12:51] language and the language in that whole
[12:53] big packet so that you are covering
[12:55] yourself to do those things once you
[12:58] start getting into negotiations with
[13:00] their um there's also you know threshold
[13:03] things. So if the procurement exceeds
[13:06] 250,000
[13:07] to one person then it bumps into a
[13:11] higher level of legal review and some
[13:13] extra steps. It also bumps it into a
[13:15] review that would require us to go
[13:17] through a sealed bid more formal
[13:19] process. We don't anticipate one
[13:21] contractor. It should not be that one
[13:23] contractor would exceed that amount, but
[13:26] we just want to build in those
[13:27] protections in the procurement even
[13:28] though we're paying to have to go back
[13:29] to bid, you know,
[13:32] >> we are um positioning ourselves to
[13:35] regroup and do the whole process if it
[13:37] turns out that we need to. Um, but that
[13:40] one I'm writing now. It's very technical
[13:44] soon. We're gonna post that bid soon.
[13:46] It's really just about and and frankly
[13:48] once I write it, I have to send it to a
[13:50] legal team review, but it's ready to go.
[13:53] Um, I'll also double check with uh ODOT
[13:56] because it is a ODOT grant,
[13:58] >> right?
[13:58] >> To see if they have any I'll review and
[14:01] see if we have to send it for to them
[14:02] for review as well. Sometimes that's
[14:04] true. Um well 24 of park projects as you
[14:09] know it turns out we have to do one more
[14:11] pathway and fortunately there was
[14:12] leftover grant funds to do so. If you
[14:14] haven't seen them yet they should be in
[14:15] the park today. It is considered a small
[14:18] project. It'll be nice to be able to
[14:19] have something that we were easily baked
[14:21] to easy to take to procure it. Get it
[14:23] turned around and be finished this week.
[14:25] Uh that will create a path that goes
[14:27] from the updated path that we put in
[14:30] last year to one of the benches by the
[14:33] new playground. So, it'll just line
[14:34] right up. I think the only change order
[14:36] we might have now that they're on site
[14:38] is that we realized that the bench
[14:44] like the bench cement,
[14:45] >> they're 4 feet by eight, but APA for a
[14:48] walkway is recommended at 5 to six feet.
[14:52] So, our path, our existing path is 5t
[14:54] wide. The path that we are putting in,
[14:56] we can't do path that we're putting in
[14:58] to the playground also 5t wide. So we
[15:01] may there is funding left over. We may
[15:05] if the change order doesn't result in in
[15:08] too if it's not too much of a hassle
[15:10] actually create like an additional path
[15:12] on that back side of an additional foot
[15:13] so that it's at least square.
[15:15] >> Sure.
[15:16] >> So that would be potentially the only
[15:17] change order that I see on that project
[15:19] and we will wrap it up
[15:20] >> and then we're done with it. Right.
[15:22] >> Yes.
[15:22] >> Yay.
[15:23] >> Done with it. Other things at the park
[15:25] we have lined up for fall but those are
[15:27] just they're unrelated to the grant. Um
[15:30] it's just continuing to pour into that
[15:32] resource that we have. U we keep talking
[15:35] about planting trees. You have to plant
[15:36] them in the fall or spring,
[15:37] >> right?
[15:38] >> In spring we do budget. So all of my
[15:40] hopes and dreams about planting in the
[15:42] spring have been not come to fruition
[15:44] several times. So this year we are
[15:46] planting trees in the fall. Plant them
[15:48] not in the fall or spring. It just is
[15:50] really hard. It's a lot more effort and
[15:52] not the best practice. Um and then also,
[15:54] you know, we put in the annual flowers
[15:57] under the sign. And so I think it would
[15:59] be nice to consider what things are good
[16:00] for fall planting and start
[16:01] transitioning to those to perennials
[16:03] that won't be like the annual invest
[16:06] like spending money on all those flowers
[16:07] every year um when we could pick other
[16:10] more native solutions.
[16:13] >> True.
[16:13] >> Yeah. So fun stuff at the park. Easy
[16:16] stuff.
[16:17] >> You guys know trees, right? Lots of
[16:20] shovels. John needs a shovel. He knows
[16:23] how to do it. He does. Yeah.
[16:27] >> Yeah. Um the 24 project
[16:31] the EPA well project review continues
[16:36] that cross country. As you guys know we
[16:38] have different buckets of money for the
[16:40] grant. Both of them EPA both of them
[16:42] from different granting agencies. We're
[16:44] so grateful.
[16:46] We are
[16:47] um so
[16:52] I've sent all of the followup
[16:53] documentation to the people that we got
[16:55] the $350,000 grant from. but they're a
[16:57] pass through an eight. And so we got
[16:59] that grant through an organization
[17:00] called Philanthropy Northwest who
[17:02] essentially was the recipient of the
[17:03] grant and they subor these EPA cuts. We
[17:06] still have to follow all the EPA rules,
[17:07] but they're I talked to them and then
[17:09] they talked to the EPA. So I they say
[17:11] EPA wants this. I send it to them. Well,
[17:13] I had a conference with our pre-awward
[17:16] officer with the $700,000 loan and asked
[17:20] a million questions and I um we
[17:25] discussed that we were hoping to merge
[17:27] the cross cutters and say, "Hey, what
[17:29] about the rest of this project? Can we
[17:31] just add it to this already active
[17:33] review?" And she would like to keep them
[17:35] separate. Here was the benefit of that
[17:37] meeting.
[17:38] was with the EPA.
[17:40] >> Yeah.
[17:41] >> Oh, good. So I feel like the way that
[17:43] she was able to address my questions and
[17:45] no I mean absolutely I've been the other
[17:47] agency has been very helpful but to
[17:49] speak directly to the agency that you're
[17:51] receiving the money for that like enacts
[17:52] the rules uh it was really really
[17:55] beneficial. I actually pulled out the
[17:57] site plan and showed her the area and
[17:59] what would go where, where the grand
[18:01] survey like on Google Earth and she
[18:05] was optimistic that it was going to be
[18:07] easy to get through the process of
[18:08] shift.
[18:10] >> Again, we cannot hold over to that.
[18:13] Right.
[18:13] >> Right.
[18:14] >> She did not make any promises, but it
[18:16] was very um reassuring that it is again
[18:20] it's not a high impact project. It is on
[18:22] already developed area. is on our public
[18:24] works, you know, it's in our public
[18:26] workshop. So those things are all voting
[18:28] very well for us. So like fingers
[18:31] crossed we will get the exemption that
[18:32] we're
[18:33] >> good
[18:33] >> the exemption from the deep dive review.
[18:35] This is this is the top this is the
[18:37] first review.
[18:41] I am actively writing a I also want
[18:44] about making sure an engineer record is
[18:46] compliant with any of the federal
[18:48] recruitment rules because a engineer
[18:50] record on a federal grant project. You
[18:52] can but there are a lot of rules about
[18:54] it.
[18:56] >> And so I asked all the questions about
[18:58] that so that um we are going to go for
[19:01] another engineer record. We are still
[19:02] going to work with our current engineer
[19:03] record. We're just deepening our bench.
[19:05] We've talked about it a lot. I got all
[19:07] the information I need. So I'm
[19:08] developing that so we can go off for
[19:09] engineer engineer of record. I also will
[19:11] be calling meeting with our integrator
[19:13] of record which is basically our water
[19:14] treatment plant programmer to start
[19:17] really refining that portion of the
[19:18] project. Um as you know we've had some
[19:21] hiccups at the water treatment plant as
[19:23] of late and they have been frustrating
[19:25] and there it's showing its age. The guys
[19:27] are really good about keeping it running
[19:29] but it is showing its age. So, we're
[19:31] trying to position ourselves so that as
[19:33] soon as we get through that
[19:35] environmental review step, we are ready
[19:38] for we are just ready to develop bid
[19:40] packages and go to construction. Um, I
[19:43] also got approval once there's a couple
[19:45] more chat boxes we need to check, but
[19:47] some of the things that we will need for
[19:48] the water trainer plan, the computer
[19:50] components, some of them in talking to
[19:53] the integrators, the people who come out
[19:54] and do our programming and help us when
[19:56] our automations are not working right or
[19:58] something's going on. Um they had
[20:01] mentioned that there are things that are
[20:02] like six months out to order. And so I
[20:06] Yeah. And so one of the things that we
[20:09] want to do is again with that we want to
[20:10] make sure that we're compliant with all
[20:12] the rules. There's so many rules of
[20:13] federal advance. It's such hard money
[20:15] but we're grateful again. um if we could
[20:19] purchase those items
[20:21] prior to completion of the environmental
[20:23] review
[20:25] and if they are supply purchases under a
[20:27] certain cost threshold which all of them
[20:29] should be that is allowance. So once we
[20:34] like really have the scope of what we're
[20:35] going to need
[20:37] >> um in in discussions with the
[20:38] integrators, we can actually start
[20:40] ordering stuff
[20:42] >> and get it on the shelf and be ready
[20:43] again. Just be ready to rock and roll at
[20:45] that.
[20:46] >> Um that is the well project.
[20:52] » Okay. Safe to school. The project launch
[20:54] meeting was held last week. We des we
[20:56] did discuss all project activities. Um,
[20:59] and so there's going to be kind of a big
[21:00] push in early September. One of the
[21:03] things that we that is going to be
[21:05] asking is to participate in an
[21:07] interactive map. Like we want feedback
[21:09] from people who see kids walking to
[21:12] school, who have kids walking to school,
[21:14] drive and pick up their kids, but are
[21:15] like navigating that whole drop off
[21:17] pickup situation at the elementary
[21:19] school in particular. And so this
[21:21] interactive map allows community members
[21:23] to like go to a easy to access site,
[21:26] click on parts of like it's going to be
[21:28] like a map of our town and click on
[21:29] sections and make your comments on what
[21:32] issues you're seeing there. you can just
[21:34] like and we also requested if they could
[21:36] provide like a short three minute um you
[21:39] know one to three minute just like this
[21:41] is how it works video so we could
[21:43] develop like a landing page on the
[21:46] quality website that has some of those
[21:48] like supporting materials to help people
[21:49] navigate that tool.
[21:50] >> Yeah.
[21:51] >> Um and also pressure updates. So that's
[21:54] coming in the fall. Um, we are going to
[21:56] have enough materials to have a little
[21:59] bit of an info booth like coming soon
[22:01] and potentially even actually like QR
[22:03] codes and postcards and things for
[22:05] people to start participating at the
[22:07] summer barbecue.
[22:08] >> Okay.
[22:09] >> So, I let them know that timeline and
[22:12] that's a big event for us and that
[22:13] having those materials by them would be
[22:14] really really helpful. So, they're going
[22:15] to make sure that happens. Stacy and I
[22:18] also discussed, counselor Strauss and I
[22:20] also discussed um that we would
[22:25] meet up at the school during pick up and
[22:27] drop off and literally hand things out
[22:30] to people. We're going to just solicit
[22:33] them to participate in our survey. So,
[22:35] as long as
[22:36] >> join
[22:38] that then we're gonna be um doing that
[22:40] as well, you know, period. We're going
[22:42] to be doing that. So, we're going to
[22:43] really try to get the word out. Um, and
[22:45] that project goes on. So, a lot of fall
[22:48] stuff coming up. Uh, SMAT, so much so
[22:51] much updates, you guys. Smack has been
[22:53] hard at work this summer. Um, we
[22:55] definitely spent winter and spring
[22:59] restructuring. We've talked about how we
[23:01] went through the first long session. We
[23:03] partnered with a lobbyist, end up not
[23:05] being a good fit. got through that long
[23:07] session and you know back in 2024 and
[23:10] then following that we parted ways with
[23:12] that lobbyist and we have essentially
[23:14] been restructuring. So we spent 2025
[23:16] getting things back together doing some
[23:18] restructuring figuring out what SMAP
[23:20] looks like going forward and then we
[23:23] started delegating tasks. We have
[23:25] started having monthly meetings and we
[23:29] are moving forward some with onboarding
[23:32] a new lobbyist firm consultants group
[23:34] and um really looking into we've been
[23:37] providing some council training
[23:38] opportunities. So we're really
[23:41] I feel like it's rock and rolling and
[23:42] our goal is really the next step is that
[23:44] we are really trying to
[23:46] you know and so the effort of smack is
[23:49] to bring advocacy to the issues that
[23:53] face small city governments and to do
[23:57] that you know we really need our elected
[23:59] officials to feel emboldened and like
[24:03] they understand how to do that that you
[24:05] know if they have an interest in it that
[24:07] they're prepared to and that we're, you
[24:09] know, really dialed into talking to our
[24:11] legislators when we have, you know,
[24:12] unfunded mandates and other issues that
[24:14] come down from the state that maybe are
[24:17] not in alignment with home rule,
[24:19] >> right?
[24:19] >> So, um, you know, that's really where
[24:21] we're at with that. We do have, now that
[24:23] we're feeling like we've really
[24:25] solidified the restructuring,
[24:28] we will be very serious this fall about
[24:31] going out and doing recruiting at other
[24:32] cities. And that means visiting other
[24:34] city councils. So that will be some of
[24:37] the city administrators from partner
[24:39] cities and some members of council from
[24:41] partner cities that that are interested
[24:43] in participating in those efforts.
[24:45] Um more to come
[24:51] barbecue as well. This is our 150th year
[24:54] anniversary. We are planning a bunch
[24:56] more fun things and we really need
[24:58] volunteers. So you were given a signup
[25:00] sheet. you give me your signup sheet,
[25:03] but we really need we need people at all
[25:06] spots. We are trying to deepen our
[25:08] bench. We're going to reach out to other
[25:09] organizations locally to try to get out
[25:11] volunteers for this effort. I'm also
[25:14] asking local businesses for donations to
[25:16] sort of sponsor some of these added fun
[25:17] things that we're providing. We have um
[25:21] face painting from the librarian again.
[25:23] We have animal carnival tabletop game
[25:25] activities, a few inflatable carnival
[25:27] games. We also um are working we've asked our sheriff's department to
[25:33] bring a patrol car which they're working
[25:34] on. I'm going to touch base with Travis
[25:36] about maybe bringing one of their fire
[25:38] engines or other equipment if they're
[25:39] able
[25:41] so we understand if you can't you know.
[25:43] Um so a lot of really cool stuff. We're
[25:45] again doing a food drive uh with a
[25:48] raffle prize for sharing hands and we'll
[25:50] take donations and food items. So it's
[25:53] going to be a big event. I think that
[25:55] frankly for the carnival we're probably
[25:58] going to need like like at least eight
[26:01] people just for that and we still need
[26:02] all the people for the other things we
[26:04] always do. So just a friendly reminder
[26:08] event
[26:11] take what we can get
[26:14] uh upcoming events August 8th program
[26:17] but for now we just sat down this
[26:18] weekend was great. August 12th is the
[26:20] last connect county dinner so that's
[26:22] tomorrow night. Um, and that's over in
[26:24] Brownsville Park. They've been doing
[26:26] really cool stuff in the plumber.
[26:27] September or September 7th, we're closed
[26:30] in observance of Labor Day. September
[26:32] 8th is the school's first day of school.
[26:33] And September 11th is our
[26:37] Any questions
[26:41] or discussion?
[26:43] Anybody?
[26:48] » Okay.
[26:51] So the next item on the agenda then
[26:53] would be further planning.
[26:57] Audrey, do you please
[27:00] I could read it to you but that's
[27:03] >> any comments.
[27:05] >> Yeah, just wanted to kind of understand
[27:07] the difference between the agency and
[27:09] the HC
[27:14] code. So sometimes they talk to each
[27:16] other but not too often.
[27:20] I listed out the current permits that we
[27:23] have in progress. Um, house at 4 and H
[27:27] just came in and paid for their STC's
[27:29] and they're going to be putting in water
[27:31] very shortly soon by the end of the
[27:33] month. So, they're getting really really
[27:34] close to having a house,
[27:37] >> right?
[27:38] >> Which one is that?
[27:40] >> Fourth and um
[27:44] » that's right. the uh plan commission
[27:46] meeting tomorrow for the Miller Trust
[27:49] projects. Um and hopefully we'll find
[27:53] that
[28:07] any questions,
[28:09] comments?
[28:12] Okay, next item is the public works
[28:14] report. Is there anything else from
[28:16] anybody on that?
[28:21] » No. Unless anybody has questions, I'll
[28:24] do my best to answer. I'll take them
[28:25] back to follow up.
[28:27] >> That's good.
[28:30] » The trees along 99 look good since they
[28:33] were
[28:35] new water every week. Right.
[28:38] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[28:41] Good.
[28:53] further issues, but never number two
[28:55] pump.
[28:57] >> Uh
[28:59] pump, we never operate service pumps.
[29:02] >> Yeah.
[29:03] >> Um like ever. And actually we mostly
[29:07] don't we try not to operate our high
[29:09] service pumps. They're there for back.
[29:10] We have a big draw and and we really
[29:12] never need three of them. Obviously, we
[29:14] want all of our pumps to be functional.
[29:16] But the pump number two was having kind
[29:19] of a commun was already not working. And
[29:23] then pump number one, high service, I
[29:25] want to say it was pump number one, was
[29:26] having a communication issue, which was
[29:29] then resulting in the reservoirs not
[29:32] filling because the jockey pump was
[29:34] kicking off. It wasn't telling the other
[29:35] pump to turn off. There was they robbed
[29:38] a part out of pump number two. They're
[29:40] not saying pump number one. The water
[29:44] treatment plan is showing its age.
[29:45] >> Yeah.
[29:46] >> So, they had a lot of headaches and it
[29:47] was like all in one week. It was like
[29:48] over and over and it was like something
[29:50] different every time. And now things are
[29:52] running smoothly, but we're really
[29:54] looking forward to upgrading.
[29:57] >> Definitely feels precarious when you
[29:59] have that many things going on in a
[30:01] short period of time.
[30:02] >> Like this thing. I see that we have
[30:05] projects under way for repairing that.
[30:12] » Questions.
[30:14] >> Okay, moving on to the library report.
[30:21] Sounds like reading was good.
[30:25] More people than we met.
[30:26] >> Yeah, we have more people registered
[30:28] this year. Um, two of our events did
[30:31] overlap with two of Brownsville's big
[30:33] events. So, there was a few like polls
[30:35] between um attendants, but it was it was
[30:38] good this year. There was a lot of new
[30:40] kids and a lot of excitement. Everyone
[30:42] enjoyed the presenters.
[30:44] We had a couple more signups. Actually,
[30:46] a few people that showed up for the last
[30:47] week, so I think it ended up being like
[30:49] 32
[30:50] kids, I think, that were officially
[30:51] registered for at like through the
[30:54] summer reading process from like this
[30:56] first week to the last week.
[30:59] >> Awesome. I was bummed to miss it this
[31:01] year. Between my schedule and the
[31:03] grandkid schedule,
[31:06] whatever next year.
[31:09] >> Any other questions, comments?
[31:14] » Okay.
[31:18] Then the next one is my report.
[31:19] Basically, I'm going to focus on the
[31:21] Oregon Mayor Association conference I
[31:23] just got back from. Um on these
[31:26] conferences I I tend to be pretty strict
[31:31] on the reason if I'm going to go or not.
[31:33] I use my three article rules for
[31:36] magazines. It has to have three good
[31:38] articles before I'll buy a magazine.
[31:40] We'll do the same thing with the
[31:41] conferences. But this year there were
[31:43] [clears throat] five. So it was a really
[31:45] good uh opportunity.
[31:49] A little bit less participation from
[31:51] some of the mayors around the state. Um
[31:52] I think most that's probably due to
[31:54] fires. Um but we had sessions on leading
[31:58] with purpose, civility, and working
[32:00] together uh in the community. Gave more
[32:03] community involvement engagement. Uh we
[32:06] discussed the 2026
[32:09] uh legislature 27th session. I'm on the
[32:13] government affairs committee for LOC.
[32:16] And so we had a lot of talk about what
[32:18] we're going to focus on, what had some
[32:20] wins, some losses this last short
[32:23] session. Um,
[32:26] so we're going to be discussing some of
[32:27] that a little bit later in the meeting.
[32:31] The other one is returning stability to
[32:33] governance. And what that is is making
[32:34] sure that we don't have
[32:38] such heated uh arguments. Unfortunately,
[32:41] in our organization, we don't. We tend
[32:44] to get along pretty well. I'm thankful
[32:46] for that. And then the biggest one I
[32:49] found be the most interesting was how
[32:51] the state and federal courts have
[32:52] impacted Oregon cities in the past year.
[32:56] And if you've watched the news and read
[32:58] the paper, it's been a lot a lot of
[33:00] stuff that's come down in the courts um
[33:04] positive and negatives.
[33:06] uh about
[33:09] probably the biggest negatives were a
[33:11] lot of uh unfunded mandates uh coming
[33:14] down and the court saying uh no you
[33:16] can't do that. There were two cases
[33:18] where
[33:20] they kind of dropped the ball and didn't
[33:22] address them. Uh there's some court
[33:25] cases coming up uh that probably won't
[33:27] be doing anything for the next at least
[33:29] year, possibly two that's going to have
[33:31] some positive impact on Oregon cities
[33:34] and LOC will be sending out some
[33:36] information on that hopefully in the
[33:38] next month or two. Um, and then part of
[33:42] my
[33:43] reason for going in is remote expat
[33:47] and
[33:49] was nice to print off some some pages
[33:52] and I got a lot of those distributed.
[33:54] Lots of positive responses,
[33:59] a lot of responses from communities in
[34:01] eastern Oregon, central Oregon, and the
[34:04] coastal uh communities.
[34:08] And I was surprised when one of the LC
[34:11] lobbyists that was there um spoke very
[34:14] highly of what Smack's been doing. So I
[34:17] think we're we're seeing some uh
[34:20] positive return on our investment time
[34:23] and money. Uh there was one of the uh
[34:26] governors
[34:29] oh at the term basically regional
[34:31] advisors was there and and spoken very
[34:34] highly and said that the governor is
[34:36] quite impressed with smack. Um so the
[34:39] governor's hearing about it we're making
[34:41] decent headway.
[34:43] >> So
[34:43] >> that's awesome to hear since it's like
[34:45] new and we're just pushing it again. I
[34:48] think part of what it is we had our
[34:50] first way at our first outing that gets
[34:54] their attention. So
[34:58] that's that. That's what I have for us.
[35:01] Any questions, comments?
[35:06] » That be it.
[35:08] >> That's it. So we have old business.
[35:14] » Didn't share that.
[35:15] >> Yeah, he did. But he's here now. Okay.
[35:17] >> Yeah.
[35:19] >> You have anything to add to your
[35:20] presentation?
[35:22] >> Not really. Unless somebody has
[35:24] questions about stuff going on outside
[35:26] of poly. We've had a lot of stuff.
[35:28] >> Yeah.
[35:28] >> On social media.
[35:30] >> Yeah.
[35:31] >> We had two deputies um that were at the
[35:35] scene of an offer ball shooting recently
[35:37] up next.
[35:38] >> Yeah.
[35:39] >> Um we had a drowning recently. We've had
[35:42] quite a few um rescues and stuff going
[35:45] on up in the mountains
[35:47] where hiker have passed away. U actually
[35:51] somebody we had a recent rescue up there
[35:55] where that person is actually still up
[35:58] there because the terrain so rough they
[36:00] can't do recovery.
[36:02] >> Um so it doesn't like affect Holly but
[36:04] it does in a way because we send so many
[36:07] resources away to some of these big
[36:09] calls. Um, I think Jenna uh does a great
[36:14] job of staying in touch. Um, and you can
[36:17] always reach out to me, but if you see
[36:18] some of this stuff on Facebook, um, that
[36:21] offer involved shooting in wheel
[36:24] crazy stuff. It was an active shooter.
[36:26] There were bodies everywhere, you know,
[36:29] like crazy crazy stuff. Um, I think she
[36:33] and I are quick to respond to stuff like
[36:36] that. you know, email us, um, reach out
[36:39] to anybody at the city. They can reach
[36:41] out to us. Doesn't have to be related to
[36:43] Holly. If you're curious about
[36:44] something, we don't have to wait 30 days
[36:46] for a meeting like this that, you know,
[36:49] we can try to get answers for you guys.
[36:51] But, um, I feel like summer has gone
[36:55] smooth, but the last couple weeks, it's
[36:58] like trying to leave its mark.
[37:00] >> Yeah.
[37:00] >> And a lot of a lot of bigger calls
[37:02] starting to pop up. has taken
[37:05] a large amount of resources that
[37:07] attracts the public's attention and then
[37:09] they start making up a whole bunch of
[37:11] stories. So, um, nothing really for
[37:16] Holly. Um, but yeah, re reach out if you
[37:20] have questions. Again, doesn't have to
[37:21] be about Holly.
[37:24] I know you and I talked when the 99
[37:28] project was wrapping up and had concerns
[37:30] about speeding and stuff like that.
[37:32] seeing that to be an issue.
[37:34] >> Uh to be an issue, no.
[37:36] >> Yeah.
[37:36] >> Um but
[37:38] there's always going to be speed,
[37:40] >> right?
[37:40] >> You're always going to have a car that
[37:42] like zip through somewhere like we just
[37:44] heard a couple minutes ago.
[37:45] >> Yeah. [laughter]
[37:47] >> So I pay attention to that stuff.
[37:49] >> I didn't.
[37:50] >> Yeah. Um so you're always going to have
[37:52] a car that speeds. I came from a council
[37:56] meeting an hour ago and their complaint
[37:59] was on speeding, but the reader board
[38:01] doesn't show that. We have some other
[38:03] data we can access. It doesn't show
[38:06] speeding a concern to where like Jenna
[38:10] should 12 hours of the 12 hour shift
[38:12] trying to
[38:14] >> right. You're always going to have that
[38:15] car that trips through that upset
[38:17] someone, but it's not a chronic issue
[38:20] that we're seeing that
[38:23] needs addressed regularly, but we're
[38:26] always keeping our eye out with radar
[38:28] looking from the one car that that does
[38:30] it.
[38:31] >> I'm glad to hear that. No, we had
[38:33] concern initially. So,
[38:35] >> I just saw a
[38:37] >> the speed sign down at the end of town,
[38:40] >> right?
[38:41] >> I just saw it there.
[38:43] >> Yeah, I saw that.
[38:44] >> Okay.
[38:45] No, I think you had a question.
[38:49] » So the car that we just heard earlier is
[38:52] that I mean when I hear that same speed
[38:55] is that like too loud or
[38:59] >> he was definitely speed [laughter]
[39:07] of speed. It's like speed racing. So
[39:10] let's say you don't speak but you go
[39:12] zero to 35 miles an hour as fast as you
[39:14] can. That's exhibition speed. There's no
[39:16] reason for
[39:18] gun.
[39:19] >> Yeah. You got it, but then you reach the
[39:21] speed limit and then you let off. That's
[39:23] still a violation. You can't go zero.
[39:29] >> Yeah. Can't use the car to like show off
[39:32] or exhibit, you know, the capability.
[39:36] >> So let's say he wasn't going fast.
[39:39] speedwise. The fact that he went from
[39:42] the soft side to here and I can tell by
[39:45] like the RPMs and stuff, there's no
[39:47] reason. So, he would get talked to and
[39:50] say like, "Okay, I can't believe that
[39:53] you're speeding, but the fact that you
[39:56] accept
[39:59] » Thank you.
[40:01] >> Yes. [laughter]
[40:04] >> In layman's term." Yes.
[40:05] >> Yep.
[40:06] Brianna, while I'm thinking about it,
[40:08] we're talking about traffic. And for you
[40:09] guys, since you're here, too. The hay
[40:11] trucks right now are flying by the park
[40:14] again down O. And I was at the park
[40:16] today with the kids and watched three of
[40:17] them run the stop sign.
[40:20] >> Yep. On 99. They like
[40:22] >> um from O like going to 99 like up
[40:24] towards Harrisburg. Just kind of went
[40:29] >> like a real real California stop there.
[40:32] Um, but they've been they've been coming
[40:34] real quick up and down like burning on
[40:37] to
[40:40] >> Yeah, it's been really bad the last
[40:41] since like just picked up really hard
[40:44] right now. Um, they're not
[40:54] » Brianna has a pretty good relationship
[40:56] with some of the companies down there,
[40:57] so she she talks to them often.
[41:02] Yeah,
[41:09] » contracts, you know.
[41:11] >> Yeah.
[41:13] >> They've been getting a little frisky on
[41:14] O.
[41:18] » Anybody else?
[41:21] Thank you.
[41:23] So, now we're going to move on to old
[41:26] business.
[41:30] the proposed street vacation of West A
[41:32] and West B Street.
[41:36] We received an update on the status of
[41:37] the vacation and prepare for executive
[41:39] session.
[41:41] You would
[41:42] >> um yeah, you know, it's really a
[41:44] timeline. This application has been a
[41:46] bit of a there's some weird stuff going
[41:47] on over there talk about. There is the a
[41:52] street which has
[41:54] an overlying ownership by one party with
[41:57] a budding a surrounding ownership of
[41:59] another party and then there's also the
[42:01] underlying predated ownership of the
[42:03] city have a plat predates everything and
[42:06] so when we receive information we we do
[42:10] our due diligence we work with engineers
[42:13] and we take applications but
[42:18] there has been some issues about whether
[42:20] or not that that a street piece in
[42:22] particular um is under question. And so
[42:26] we just want to make sure that we're
[42:27] doing our absolute due diligence on that
[42:30] matter. Um we need to make sure that the
[42:33] initial application is valid and we need
[42:36] to really hold and discuss with our
[42:39] legal counsel before we proceed. And so
[42:41] that is why we've really done the
[42:43] executive session is to make sure that
[42:45] we're talking those issues through. we
[42:47] have that opportunity to have, you know,
[42:49] council with our legal and that we're
[42:50] making all the correct steps because
[42:52] that has always been the city's intent that we don't want to have a
[42:58] misstep. We want correct information so
[43:00] that we can so you guys can make
[43:01] informed corrections.
[43:04] >> So, are we getting good information from
[43:06] the county?
[43:08] You know,
[43:11] there's there's a lot of research that
[43:13] went into this even before the initial
[43:14] application and um Audrey spent a lot of
[43:18] time on it. So that that area period, it
[43:21] has that weird six foot section,
[43:22] >> right,
[43:23] >> between the and the south property
[43:25] owners. That is very unusual. That does
[43:27] not happen. So that sixoot section is
[43:30] part of the church plot, but it is like
[43:33] doesn't make sense,
[43:34] >> right? Um so we had to do a ton of
[43:37] research on that and then again um you
[43:40] know we're getting deed history through
[43:42] the engineers. We have contacted the
[43:45] county and the county has you know I've
[43:49] just been like
[43:51] the existence of the row and whether or
[43:52] not the afferment and what information
[43:54] they have on it. Um what information how
[43:56] they interpret the the existing the deed
[43:58] record and all those things like that we
[44:00] use the county as the agency of record
[44:03] with situations. We don't try to make it
[44:05] up. They are the agency who determines
[44:07] how land is distributed. Also, when we
[44:09] do vacations, we must report them with
[44:11] the county or they don't exist,
[44:14] >> right?
[44:15] >> And so, the county is the one that gets
[44:16] to determine how those are distributed.
[44:18] We don't have the authority to do that.
[44:20] We have the authority to vacate or not
[44:22] to vacate, period. And so, again, if you
[44:26] have an application, it's it's very
[44:28] common for our street vacation 99.9% of
[44:31] the time to be a central lane split. And
[44:33] so when you have an applicant that's a
[44:34] property, we took an application of that
[44:37] regard. We just want to make sure that
[44:38] we're doing
[44:40] everything right. That is really what it
[44:42] is. We want to make sure that the
[44:44] application is valid. We want to make
[44:46] sure that we're making the right
[44:47] decisions with all of the information
[44:50] because
[44:53] >> the city doesn't actually benefit from
[44:55] anything else for that. Like we don't
[44:57] benefit from it at all, frankly.
[44:59] >> Right. Um so we c council has agreed
[45:03] that they would like to move to an
[45:04] executive session on that. Um
[45:08] we have scheduled an executive session.
[45:10] That date is actually set for August
[45:12] 26th.
[45:14] Um you know it's unfortunate that this
[45:16] has taken some time but that is the
[45:18] time. Let me double check. Let me triple
[45:20] check that.
[45:22] Um but once once we sort of confer on
[45:27] that we'll be able to come back for a
[45:29] street in particular but also any action
[45:32] on B Street. We currently do not have an active application on street. I also
[45:35] want to make that clear
[45:37] >> because it was voted on it and we voted
[45:38] down.
[45:39] >> If if another application comes forward,
[45:42] I think that we are informed by this
[45:44] process with any new developments, you
[45:46] know, and so certainly council has the
[45:48] opportunity to hear that matter again
[45:51] based off of any report and there may
[45:54] be, you know, that's important for
[45:56] making the decision. If there's new
[45:57] information, there's new information. At
[45:59] the time, we had an applicant that said,
[46:01] I don't have any plans.
[46:03] So, that's kind of where we're at on
[46:05] that.
[46:08] >> We have any new information?
[46:10] >> Um, we did hear from Kelsey Pim in
[46:14] email. Um, she did mention that she
[46:16] wanted me to speak and she may have some
[46:17] information which we would love to have
[46:19] regarding potential previous vacation,
[46:21] which again the county does not have
[46:23] record of. Um, and
[46:26] >> actually the county surveyor's website
[46:30] >> of a previous vacation.
[46:31] >> Yeah. written right on thereated
[46:35] 8.178.
[46:39] » So my question is why is the county
[46:40] providing that for us that
[46:42] >> yeah I mean I
[46:44] that's a very good question it answers
[46:47] the we always you look at the I should
[46:52] have brought multiple
[46:55] but
[46:57] you look at the
[46:58] >> you on the assessor website.
[47:01] Yeah,
[47:02] >> the surveyor.
[47:03] >> I did. And I should have I thought I
[47:06] printed it, but I didn't. So, it's
[47:08] always been here. I don't know if you
[47:10] guys can see, but so like this is a our
[47:13] field, our property line, and we've
[47:15] always own this little Lshaped thing
[47:17] here, which was street A. And we've
[47:21] never really understood where that came
[47:23] from. Didn't really care. Um, but that's
[47:27] because it was previously vacated. And
[47:29] if you look at previous aerial maps um
[47:33] which you only have from 60 like
[47:36] sometime in the 60s I think it's like 67
[47:39] and then you again have it in the 80s
[47:41] like there's nothing here like the
[47:43] church doesn't exist and then when you
[47:46] again have aerial maps in the 80s the
[47:49] church got built
[47:51] and so I'm not and also so did these
[47:54] little houses over here. So, um I'm my
[47:57] assumption is and so the attorney that
[48:00] pointed out to me, hey, because we were
[48:04] a little lost and so we had a land use
[48:07] attorney in Eugene um look at this for
[48:10] us. And he wrote back to me and said, "I
[48:14] don't know why a street is an issue. It
[48:16] was vacated in 1978. Should be a
[48:18] non-issue."
[48:20] And I was like,
[48:24] okay. Um, which makes sense why that is,
[48:29] you know, especially when you go log
[48:30] into GIS, why that's already adjacent to
[48:33] our property and in our labeled
[48:35] description of our deed.
[48:37] >> Yeah. So, if you this is just if you go
[48:41] into GIS. Um, so
[48:44] I Yeah. So this um I'm writing upside
[48:50] down but this is also
[48:52] >> right
[48:52] >> and so this this at one time I think if
[48:55] you you can't really tell anymore simply
[48:58] because um this is all you know on the
[49:01] other side of this was a field but if
[49:03] you look at really really really old map
[49:05] like at one time this used to be a
[49:08] street
[49:08] >> and it was vacated
[49:10] >> and then so and I think what happened so
[49:13] we our family bought this property from
[49:16] Mrs. Bath in the early 1980s. And I
[49:19] think what happened is when this got
[49:22] vacated, it went to her because if you
[49:24] look at get the aerial map
[49:33] so everybody can look at this
[49:34] >> if we could. Yes. Um, if I can find my
[49:39] again. I need to I emailed my attorney
[49:43] today again and I got an automatic reply
[49:46] that he's on vacation for
[49:51] the biggest thing I want I want to make
[49:52] sure everyone understands that the more
[49:55] information we have, the more accurate
[49:57] it says that we can make. Right? That's
[49:59] why it's it feels like we're dragging
[50:02] our feet, but it's out of abundance of
[50:04] >> caution. So, this this is um this here,
[50:09] if you look in the in the late 60s, this
[50:12] none of this exists. This is just big
[50:14] field. She owns it and then boom, like
[50:16] when you have more another area, it's
[50:17] here. And I So, I'm assuming that in 78
[50:20] when this got vacated. I don't know. We
[50:22] need to find the records. And I was
[50:25] wondering, don't you guys have pretty
[50:27] compliments? Yes. And so we're gonna
[50:29] when he gave us that information of 1978
[50:31] that is helpful. That gives us like
[50:33] >> you could look it like six months prior
[50:35] or something. That's what I was thinking
[50:37] when he told me that later I'm like
[50:40] maybe there's some discussion somewhere.
[50:42] Um I will just tell you I I did a couple
[50:45] years ago a um a couple of century form
[50:47] applications. Um, and so I spent quite a
[50:50] bit of time in the um the county office.
[50:53] And I don't know if you've ever done one
[50:54] of those, but it's really extensive and
[50:56] you have to show the lineage and like
[50:58] all this stuff. And the county is is
[51:02] great and the people there are great,
[51:03] but there as I'm going through these
[51:06] files, I'm finding things that are
[51:09] misplaced and misfiled like like why is
[51:13] this should be like over here and like
[51:16] just whoever was in there or whoever was
[51:18] scanning the microfilm just like it's very difficult to say and my
[51:25] suspicion is like and how this even got
[51:28] built onto that like Let's just say this
[51:31] is a street, an existing street. Well,
[51:33] how did they build that onto a street?
[51:34] Like I mean there something got dropped
[51:36] somewhere.
[51:37] >> Oh, exactly.
[51:38] >> That's why we want to make sure we have
[51:40] all
[51:40] >> information. So, the reason that the Bee
[51:42] Street theme came up is because, as I've
[51:46] uh explained to previous people in the
[51:48] past is we when I a few years ago um
[51:53] went to go change insurance companies,
[51:55] um one of the things that came up as a
[51:57] flag for the insurance company was that
[52:00] I had there was this church that had a
[52:02] playground and they're they're building
[52:05] on our property, right? and they're
[52:06] like, um, well, that's a liability. You
[52:11] need to get that fixed. Um, and so we
[52:14] kind of talked to the church and you
[52:16] know, okay, they're going around and the church's attorney didn't dispute
[52:21] that with us and we hired a survey to do
[52:23] a lot line adjustment, which is why they
[52:26] said B Street needed to be vacated so we
[52:29] could do the lot line adjustment. Okay.
[52:31] Um, and but I don't really understand
[52:36] like why this and again the attorney was
[52:39] like, I don't even know why this is an
[52:41] issue. It was already vacated.
[52:43] >> Sure.
[52:43] >> Um, and it does
[52:45] >> Yeah.
[52:45] >> If we get as much information from you
[52:47] as you can.
[52:48] >> Yeah. And I I thought I was um and I
[52:51] didn't mean to be offensive earlier, but
[52:53] like it is harvest. I don't have time to
[52:55] do any of that.
[52:57] when my kids get back in school next
[52:59] month, I will, you know, go down the
[53:01] courthouse for a day or two and figure,
[53:05] you know, do what I can do.
[53:06] >> Sure.
[53:06] >> Um, but I just don't um have time to
[53:10] roll those.
[53:10] >> Well, I think that if you give us what
[53:12] you have right now, then we could deal
[53:14] with
[53:14] >> Yeah, I would be very interested where
[53:15] you found the thing that said previously
[53:17] vacation.
[53:18] >> Yeah, if you go to the county. So, um,
[53:22] >> I don't remember the name of the
[53:24] website, but if you just go to the
[53:25] county surveys website, and you know
[53:26] where you can pull up all the survey,
[53:28] >> I believe it's been a few days, but I
[53:31] believe when you pull up the main map,
[53:35] >> it says it's in lim. It says a vacated
[53:40] and then it has the date and then it has
[53:42] I what I'm assuming is the name of the
[53:44] surveyor like OC something or other,
[53:46] >> right? Okay. Well, whatever information
[53:49] you have, if you get to it, that'd be
[53:50] great. That'll give us something to look
[53:52] forward on.
[53:53] >> We already have an executive session
[53:55] scheduled. We don't want council them to
[53:57] be able to ask any questions, but if
[53:58] it's found that we get enough
[53:59] information ahead of that that negates
[54:02] the need for executive sessions
[54:04] >> because the county has like obviously I
[54:06] mean, I don't know how I'm going to go
[54:08] ask how that gets in there, but like
[54:10] we've been paying taxes on this for the
[54:12] last 40 years.
[54:17] than you.
[54:18] >> Yeah.
[54:18] >> Well, I mean, I think we own it. It says
[54:20] that on the thing, so I
[54:22] >> Yeah.
[54:23] >> Well, that there's going to be a
[54:25] resolution. It's just a matter of
[54:26] getting from point A to point B and
[54:29] making sure that everything is in
[54:30] alignment. And if somewhere
[54:33] the ball has been dropped by the county
[54:34] for whatever reason, we need to know
[54:36] about it so we can fix, get it fixed.
[54:39] >> Right. I will also reach out to you. I
[54:41] think this is really good information.
[54:42] It's very informative for H Street.
[54:44] Compass. Street is still a matter for
[54:46] discussion. I will email you because
[54:48] again it's not it's not something we're
[54:49] voting on tonight and I just want to
[54:50] explain like the now there's not an
[54:53] active application. It was already voted
[54:55] no.
[54:55] >> Yes. And we discussed that there and the
[54:58] reason I haven't filled out a new one is
[54:59] because I need we would like to vacate
[55:01] more than just each state simply because
[55:03] the issue is and I as I was explaining
[55:07] to Michelle um a couple of months ago is
[55:10] that when you pull up if as most people
[55:13] you know who are just you know not I
[55:15] shouldn't say most people but a lot of
[55:16] people they will pull up um their onx or
[55:19] whatever you know and they look and it
[55:21] looks like there are public rightway all
[55:24] throughout our
[55:26] Right.
[55:27] And um and the issue with that is that
[55:31] our equipment often gets damaged because
[55:34] there is you know pens and jeans and um
[55:43] things like uh well
[55:47] mention um that our combines in death
[55:51] and then cost multi thousands of
[55:53] repairs. Um, also frequently in the um
[55:58] when the when the ground is wet and
[55:59] mucky, we have people, you know, doing
[56:02] cookies with the right TVs and and other
[56:05] things out there, especially at where
[56:07] there's the alleyway ends there. I can't
[56:09] remember the street, but it's I think
[56:11] it's like C or
[56:13] >> we're at I think it
[56:15] >> Yeah. And then over there south of So G
[56:20] H that it's frequently they just They're
[56:23] always just like
[56:26] >> I can't tell you how many people we
[56:28] thought
[56:29] doing that and um we have absolutely no
[56:33] intention of ever developing this um
[56:36] like there's it's just not going to
[56:37] happen but
[56:39] >> you can't um
[56:42] >> you just can't um and so there's just no
[56:45] reason for that. So the reason I haven't
[56:46] fill refilled that out is because we
[56:48] were going to put another
[56:51] adjoin that with and again
[56:59] » there's also I want to give you the
[57:00] information about the options for how
[57:02] you perceive it because there's a couple
[57:03] of them but I will email
[57:04] >> that's fine that's fine.
[57:07] Thank you. That's a
[57:08] >> big thing I want to make sure that we
[57:10] all understand that it behooves us to be
[57:13] able to work together probably
[57:16] >> and if we start button heads that we're
[57:18] going to get nowhere. So, we just got to
[57:20] work together and information we have as
[57:22] much as we can.
[57:25] >> So,
[57:30] you want to add to that?
[57:31] >> No business. Thank you for coming.
[57:34] Helpful information.
[57:36] >> Genuinely just want the info so that we
[57:39] can get this over.
[57:44] » That's it for me on that.
[57:45] >> Okay. Any questions, comments, or
[57:55] » No.
[57:56] >> Uh just to because I know a few of the
[57:59] counters might not be able to be there.
[58:00] Um, can you send out like a text just to
[58:02] remind everyone when questions are due
[58:05] to you like at the end of the week?
[58:06] >> Yes.
[58:07] >> Thank you.
[58:17] » Okay,
[58:20] we move on to new business.
[58:27] Earth is LOC legislative priorities.
[58:32] You guys have a good chance to look at
[58:33] those
[58:35] any questions, comments.
[58:40] I don't think any questions you have on
[58:42] is I'm on sit on that committee. So
[58:45] information I can get back.
[58:49] So there's if you get that list, choose
[58:53] four, six. Hopefully you have already,
[58:59] please let me know.
[59:11] » Do you guys want to go straight?
[59:17] » No. No. We need you for just a little
[59:19] bit longer.
[59:20] >> Yeah.
[59:28] » Thank you for being here though.
[59:30] >> Yes.
[59:32] >> If you have any questions about them,
[59:33] please let me know.
[59:38] » Hold up for this list.
[59:43] » I would be curious if anything stands
[59:44] out to people at a glance, right? We
[59:46] need to come up with a few. we have this
[59:48] month and next month and so
[59:49] >> right
[59:50] >> we have time. It would be nice if
[59:52] anybody has anything that stood out to
[59:54] them was like, "Ah, that's fantastic."
[59:56] >> Right.
[1:00:00] » If you want to think about emailing me,
[1:00:03] texting,
[1:00:05] >> I'll be out there.
[1:00:09] » Um, one that stands out to me, that's
[1:00:11] okay.
[1:00:12] >> Yes.
[1:00:12] >> Okay. One, May I chime in?
[1:00:15] >> Yeah.
[1:00:15] >> One that stands out to me is targeted
[1:00:17] prevailing wage changes.
[1:00:18] >> Yes. We've talked a lot about how a
[1:00:20] prevailing wage cost impacts the cost of
[1:00:23] projects and the threshold for what
[1:00:25] pushes something into a prevailing wage
[1:00:27] project or a public
[1:00:30] I can't public goods project I
[1:00:34] don't know anyways um the threshold
[1:00:38] instead of 50,000
[1:00:42] >> so it hasn't been updated a long time so
[1:00:44] once you hit
[1:00:46] a public project or a public works
[1:00:48] project once you hit 50,000 in a book
[1:00:50] and that means that you didn't have to
[1:00:51] do all the bully prevailing wage. So
[1:00:53] that means that like the guy with
[1:00:54] cooking and broom being paid $4 like it
[1:00:59] just I'm and
[1:01:01] I'm not saying that I don't want to see
[1:01:04] or trades people in a brew call or
[1:01:05] people making good money but I think
[1:01:06] that it makes um I think that it is
[1:01:13] perhaps not the most efficient
[1:01:15] >> right
[1:01:15] >> effective and responsible use of public
[1:01:18] funds
[1:01:20] frequently I mean even our grants are
[1:01:21] often taxpayer dollars
[1:01:23] um our project, our money is taxpayer
[1:01:25] dollars or it's a feast. Um it is public
[1:01:28] money and so that prevailing wage
[1:01:31] threshold we see a need for it to be
[1:01:33] raised so that that project limit
[1:01:36] doesn't get hit until higher. They are
[1:01:38] proposing 86,000. The other reason why
[1:01:40] this one falls on my radar is because
[1:01:42] our tax efforts are coming up with some
[1:01:44] policy
[1:01:46] priorities and one of them
[1:01:51] on their and we also support this. I
[1:01:53] will say however that we think 6,000 is
[1:01:57] dismal
[1:01:59] actually with what it would be if it
[1:02:00] would have kept number 10.
[1:02:03] >> And so we're our our policy is actually
[1:02:06] quite a bit higher above 200,000 because
[1:02:10] >> a $50,000 project is like nothing and it
[1:02:14] >> might have a ceiling at all.
[1:02:19] Um
[1:02:20] >> anyway,
[1:02:21] >> I think that to to object to and to undo
[1:02:25] the existence mining wage is another
[1:02:27] discussion. [laughter]
[1:02:31] » Yes.
[1:02:33] >> Project to that requirement is too low.
[1:02:37] I would agree. And and when I say it
[1:02:38] truly double project, it truly doubles
[1:02:41] the cost of a project. I have an example
[1:02:43] in my back pocket from Brownsville where
[1:02:45] they had a bathroom project that they
[1:02:48] had gone in and were going to be where
[1:02:51] it was estimated to be, you know,
[1:02:53] $49,000.
[1:02:55] And so they were advised that they
[1:02:57] should just go ahead with the
[1:02:58] procurement that would assume a bid
[1:03:00] higher than that because one change
[1:03:02] order, just one whatever would have put
[1:03:04] them in that special in trouble
[1:03:06] >> for not following your procurement p
[1:03:08] practice and not doing the bullying
[1:03:10] prevailing weight. And so when they went
[1:03:11] to bid, they they put in a requirements
[1:03:13] for prevailing wage and it was a 90 I
[1:03:15] would say $96,000 for one per bathroom.
[1:03:19] That is the kind of impact
[1:03:22] that
[1:03:24] this
[1:03:25] kind of impact to how much money it cost
[1:03:27] to complete a project. And that's also
[1:03:29] when you see things where like people
[1:03:31] say, I don't understand why the school
[1:03:32] can't fix this or the city can't fix
[1:03:33] this or why would the project cost that
[1:03:35] much. We are subject to much more
[1:03:37] scrutiny in our design in our
[1:03:40] expectation the things we have to put
[1:03:42] into projects but reporting requirements
[1:03:44] all those things and we are subject to
[1:03:47] this public impairment rule that means
[1:03:50] that immediately the trucks
[1:03:53] it's it's on average about 40%. is huge
[1:03:57] and it's pretty I mean small communities
[1:04:00] predominantly are being hammered or and having projects when they can't
[1:04:05] complete their water systems or anything
[1:04:09] like that because of that. Um
[1:04:12] there's two others that are really
[1:04:14] important to uh the governing committee.
[1:04:16] One is the administrative procedures act
[1:04:18] forth and what that is it's the rules
[1:04:21] that state agencies must follow
[1:04:24] and over the years it has gotten murkier
[1:04:27] and murkier and murkier where it was
[1:04:30] originally designed for transparency and
[1:04:32] it is anything but
[1:04:34] um and what that would do is force state
[1:04:36] to kind of
[1:04:39] I don't say reign in uh agencies
[1:04:43] but as would the state legislature,
[1:04:47] there's oversight when they create laws,
[1:04:49] but once it gets down to an agency who
[1:04:52] creates administrative rules, there is
[1:04:55] almost zero oversight. And we run into
[1:04:58] that as a small committee when you're
[1:04:59] trying to
[1:05:02] do wells and and and water systems to
[1:05:06] where you talk to one person in the
[1:05:07] agency and they say one thing and and
[1:05:10] another person you talk to says
[1:05:11] something completely different and get a
[1:05:14] bottleneck.
[1:05:16] So that's trying to get that
[1:05:18] clearly updated from 1971 to today you
[1:05:22] know. Uh then the next one's public
[1:05:25] meeting law clarity and that's
[1:05:26] predominantly towards uh the Oregon
[1:05:29] government ethics commission and
[1:05:34] there's never really been an intentions
[1:05:36] requirement that the proven intent and
[1:05:40] just we think you are that's it. Uh but
[1:05:44] there's more than that too. uh the hot
[1:05:47] dog rule. Remember guys talking about
[1:05:50] that where
[1:05:52] um if we have a meeting planning meeting
[1:05:54] we can't provide boot because it's
[1:05:57] considered payment kind that got a lot
[1:06:00] of push back and OGAC resented that so
[1:06:04] that that's where they're starting to
[1:06:06] realize oh maybe we are overstepping
[1:06:09] u so those are the two real big ones uh
[1:06:12] that we've talked about. So, if you have
[1:06:14] any other concern, shoot me a text. Let
[1:06:17] me know.
[1:06:19] And if there's anything that kind of
[1:06:22] boggles your mind right now on those,
[1:06:25] >> the land availability one was kind of
[1:06:27] interesting for me since um the land
[1:06:30] availability and streamlining,
[1:06:32] >> right?
[1:06:33] And also to an extent the water
[1:06:34] workforce development since we talked
[1:06:36] about that with the guy all the training
[1:06:38] programs especially like because it's
[1:06:40] going to affect us when Andy retires and
[1:06:42] we start having to
[1:06:43] >> he's not I'm sure he's allowed to ever
[1:06:46] >> at some point I think his wife
[1:06:48] >> well I'm sure
[1:06:50] >> but anyway um we can move on from that
[1:06:52] so if you have anything you want
[1:06:54] let me know.
[1:06:55] >> Thank you.
[1:06:59] Um, so I want to make some stars on this
[1:07:02] so that when we come back next month
[1:07:04] that we're ready now together,
[1:07:10] >> right?
[1:07:12] >> Good. We already have some ideas.
[1:07:14] >> Yeah. So I I heard availability
[1:07:19] had mine that was about the goal we have
[1:07:21] to be on the wage and then you said the
[1:07:24] administrative
[1:07:25] time
[1:07:26] >> uh the administrative uh
[1:07:29] >> the general government committee the
[1:07:31] public meeting the administrative
[1:07:33] procedures act reform.
[1:07:35] >> Yeah
[1:07:37] public meeting
[1:07:39] >> that was mine.
[1:07:50] and then the water.
[1:07:52] >> Yeah.
[1:07:53] >> Okay.
[1:07:54] >> So, if there's more, let me know. Chat
[1:07:56] about them. And then,
[1:07:57] >> um, as I was going through it, as I was
[1:07:59] taking notes as I was like thinking
[1:08:01] things, I'll send them to you. Do you
[1:08:03] want to be CCed on an email? Like, do
[1:08:04] you guys both want the
[1:08:07] like thoughts or questions on any of
[1:08:09] these specifically?
[1:08:11] Um, one of the things that we have to be
[1:08:13] careful about is sending these to
[1:08:15] multiple council members. So, send
[1:08:18] the two of you.
[1:08:19] >> Then that would be
[1:08:20] >> Yeah, that's what I was saying. Do you
[1:08:21] want it too or do you just want us to
[1:08:22] send it to mayor?
[1:08:23] >> That's fine. And then we'll bring them
[1:08:25] back. We have to bring them back at the
[1:08:27] next public meeting. We'll any any notes
[1:08:29] we'll we'll make sure to bring forward.
[1:08:31] >> If you want to send it to me, I can get
[1:08:32] from create a spreadsheet of ranking.
[1:08:37] » And you can't discuss it,
[1:08:40] >> right? Yes.
[1:08:42] [clears throat]
[1:08:47] » I'll send you
[1:08:49] >> you can you can ask questions about
[1:08:50] LOC's intent please. That's can't have
[1:08:54] ongoing conversation
[1:08:57] other than you clarify.
[1:09:01] So if you have nothing else we can move
[1:09:02] on.
[1:09:06] We have to figure out the last topic.
[1:09:10] >> Yeah. For October.
[1:09:12] >> Well, I'll
[1:09:17] go hunting.
[1:09:18] >> Yeah.
[1:09:19] >> On the record. So, that season is what
[1:09:21] it is,
[1:09:22] >> right?
[1:09:23] >> And so, we have some date. I did get a
[1:09:25] hold of LLC about some training
[1:09:26] opportunities. They're on pause for
[1:09:27] training. So, it's actually not a good
[1:09:29] option for us right now.
[1:09:30] >> Um, it sounded like a good idea to me,
[1:09:33] but it's not going to work out.
[1:09:35] Um they do actually have their rentals
[1:09:36] trainings coming up again states are
[1:09:39] available that's you know ever
[1:09:43] um so good opportunity here in the
[1:09:45] middle of the week I asked them about
[1:09:46] that I know we're in the lead we lead
[1:09:47] weeds I said have you considered
[1:09:49] salaries
[1:09:51] most people work that are on city
[1:09:53] councils and they have a lot of reasons
[1:09:55] why that is not peaceful for them so I I
[1:09:57] am also looking into they do on the go
[1:10:00] training
[1:10:01] >> when when people are able to attend the
[1:10:03] trainings that they offer They are free
[1:10:06] so that's always nice. It's just driving
[1:10:08] there but there are options to bring
[1:10:10] people in. It does have a fee associated
[1:10:12] but it's not astronomical. So really
[1:10:14] good training opportunities and
[1:10:16] something that I do look into is holding
[1:10:20] you know every other year when we don't
[1:10:21] do our goal setting holding a work
[1:10:23] session that just dedicate to training.
[1:10:25] There is
[1:10:26] >> not a work session, but I'm just saying
[1:10:27] we hold a training in one time a year
[1:10:29] when we don't have full setting
[1:10:31] >> and this is a little bit further out but
[1:10:33] [clears throat] the 25th of February um
[1:10:36] there's a catchall
[1:10:39] uh virtual online so
[1:10:41] >> that's a little
[1:10:44] catch all
[1:10:45] >> I don't even know what I'm doing in
[1:10:46] September.
[1:10:47] >> Yeah.
[1:10:49] Well,
[1:10:51] their Lexi Essentials workshop, they're
[1:10:54] going to be setting some online
[1:10:56] trainings for those.
[1:10:58] >> So, it keep an eye on the LC website for
[1:11:01] the training section.
[1:11:08] But the the OG one, they paused out of
[1:11:13] that because it was found that
[1:11:16] trainings that that was trying to get
[1:11:18] approved through OG,
[1:11:20] they were not getting approved and then
[1:11:23] did a test where they took another
[1:11:25] agency to end their training that was
[1:11:28] approved by OG, change the name and
[1:11:31] still got rejected.
[1:11:33] So that's what that's what they paused.
[1:11:36] Okay.
[1:11:38] >> Yeah.
[1:11:39] >> Okay. So scheduling. Got
[1:11:41] >> way off topic. I started it.
[1:11:43] >> Um
[1:11:45] so the October meeting, we have some
[1:11:48] options. We could recess for October. Um
[1:11:52] if we don't have any pressing business,
[1:11:54] we can set it for the third Tuesday,
[1:11:57] which is kind of the placeholder that we
[1:11:58] they always hold for council meetings,
[1:12:00] which is the 20th. I would suggest we
[1:12:02] just hold that placeholder and if
[1:12:04] there's no pressing business, council
[1:12:05] can sort of decide what in the September
[1:12:07] meeting if they want to proceed with
[1:12:08] that date. The September meeting,
[1:12:12] the reason why I'm recommending that we
[1:12:16] the third Tuesday instead of the 8th is
[1:12:18] because of that timeline that I was
[1:12:20] talking about way, you know, right long
[1:12:22] ago about the ini,
[1:12:23] >> right? DQ has stated they need two weeks
[1:12:26] to review the close the post the
[1:12:30] timeline to post our intent to award is
[1:12:34] August 31st
[1:12:35] >> right
[1:12:35] >> that is in alignment with all the other
[1:12:37] previous things which is like how many
[1:12:39] how long it needs to be open our time to
[1:12:41] apply to to open bids when the bids
[1:12:43] close we review them all those things
[1:12:46] >> so that gives us seven days
[1:12:48] >> really
[1:12:49] >> right
[1:12:49] >> between our no intent to award and again
[1:12:53] during that one week you have to approve
[1:12:55] it before we could actually award it in
[1:12:59] our council meeting. So they told me
[1:13:02] that they prefer three weeks.
[1:13:05] So if they don't have it approved by
[1:13:07] then we would have to wait all the way
[1:13:08] until we would we would have to hold
[1:13:11] special sessionally.
[1:13:13] >> We would not wait until October.
[1:13:15] >> Yeah.
[1:13:15] >> We would have to hold special session
[1:13:16] because we have to award once
[1:13:19] it's approved. We have a timeline toward
[1:13:21] >> Right. So,
[1:13:24] um, that would be September.
[1:13:27] I have to look
[1:13:28] >> 15th. 15th.
[1:13:30] >> Yeah. And I know that that's, you know,
[1:13:31] it feels like not great timing because
[1:13:33] October was already being rescheduled,
[1:13:35] >> but
[1:13:38] it makes sense though.
[1:13:39] >> We could either keep our regular meeting
[1:13:41] and have a placeholder for a special
[1:13:43] session just to deal with the topic of
[1:13:45] the award or we would a full meeting and
[1:13:47] deal with it at that time. So, those are
[1:13:48] the the options for council. Move the
[1:13:51] meeting. I did.
[1:13:52] >> Yep. I'd move the meeting.
[1:13:54] >> Yeah,
[1:13:54] >> it's easier for me anyway. That is the
[1:13:56] first day of school, so I prefer not.
[1:13:58] >> Right.
[1:14:00] >> And it's right after Labor Day and
[1:14:01] barbecue. So, I would
[1:14:02] >> Right.
[1:14:02] >> So, September, we have to do this.
[1:14:05] >> Okay.
[1:14:07] >> October.
[1:14:09] >> And then
[1:14:13] is October like you said, I would favor
[1:14:15] your if you have to the 20th otherwise
[1:14:19] nothing. Right.
[1:14:20] >> Okay. So, tenatively hold the 20th and
[1:14:23] if there's no
[1:14:28] » potential I'll be out of town from the
[1:14:30] 17th to the 24th too. So,
[1:14:37] » no. Next year I
[1:14:40] >> October tenative
[1:14:42] 20th potential to cancel if not needed.
[1:14:53] And as to training, is there any
[1:14:54] training you guys want?
[1:14:56] >> Yes. Thank you.
[1:14:59] >> I always think that you know like public
[1:15:01] meeting rules and all that kind of
[1:15:04] stuff.
[1:15:05] >> Fundamentals like that.
[1:15:07] >> Yeah.
[1:15:09] >> If we could find somebody or
[1:15:11] >> shouldn't tech
[1:15:12] >> gone back and forth over the years about
[1:15:14] the whole Robert's rules or whatever.
[1:15:16] Not that we fully follow them, but some
[1:15:19] I don't know.
[1:15:20] >> Yeah.
[1:15:25] » So, what we can put together?
[1:15:27] >> Yeah. And I will I will send you guys
[1:15:30] they sent me some information from LC on
[1:15:32] that training on the go and so you have
[1:15:34] the pull elected essentials, but you can
[1:15:35] actually cherry pick the topics so you
[1:15:37] don't have to spend eight hours,
[1:15:38] >> right?
[1:15:39] >> So, you can say I only want to do two
[1:15:41] hours of driving,
[1:15:42] >> right? And so in that situation, we can
[1:15:45] really I can send that to you because
[1:15:46] they actually give kind of like a little
[1:15:48] summary of the different topics and they
[1:15:50] actually also provide how long they are,
[1:15:52] >> right?
[1:15:52] >> So this one's 90 minutes. This one's
[1:15:54] >> I'd like to spend five and a half hours,
[1:15:56] please.
[1:15:58] >> You know, and the topics are meeting a
[1:16:02] lot of things like what to know about
[1:16:03] land use as an elected official. Just a
[1:16:06] cool topic. So I'll send that out to
[1:16:08] folks so that they can have some ideas
[1:16:10] because then in the spring when they are
[1:16:13] allowing training again right
[1:16:17] would be a really cool opportunity.
[1:16:18] >> Yeah.
[1:16:20] >> Okay.
[1:16:21] >> Anybody else comments?
[1:16:23] >> 8:15.
[1:16:26] >> So there's no resolutions ordinances. So
[1:16:29] then we will adjourn at 8:16.
[1:16:33] >> There we [clears throat] go.
[1:16:36] picture. You can see my her first flag.