1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,220 I didn't want us to have 800,000 . 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:04,620 Right. 3 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:11,020 All right. I am now calling to order this regularly scheduled meeting of the 4 00:00:11,060 --> 00:00:14,840 Hamburg Township Board of Trustees, set for today, Tuesday, August 18th at 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,580 7:00 PM. 6 00:00:16,540 --> 00:00:19,200 Would everybody present please rise and join me in the pledge to the flag? 7 00:00:21,740 --> 00:00:25,680 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,350 to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, 9 00:00:29,700 --> 00:00:32,241 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 10 00:00:33,180 --> 00:00:33,480 Thank you. 11 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:36,400 Michael, would you once again please call the roll? 12 00:00:37,460 --> 00:00:38,780 Anybody sneak out on us? 13 00:00:39,220 --> 00:00:39,940 Looks like we're here. 14 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:41,780 Supervisor Negri? 15 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:42,140 Present. 16 00:00:42,540 --> 00:00:44,420 Clerk Dolan is present. Treasurer Daniels? 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:44,580 Here. 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:45,940 Trustee 19 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,500 Carter-Sieve? 20 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:47,900 Here. 21 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,520 Trustee Hughes? 22 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:49,350 Present. 23 00:00:49,380 --> 00:00:49,930 Trustee Menzies? 24 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:50,320 Here. 25 00:00:50,380 --> 00:00:50,910 Trustee Miller? 26 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,340 Here. 27 00:00:51,980 --> 00:00:53,200 All right. Full board. 28 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Thanks everyone for coming out tonight. 29 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,290 First, we will have our opening call to the public, but there ain't nobody here, 30 00:01:03,860 --> 00:01:05,980 so there will be no opening call to the public. 31 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:11,680 Moving on to our consent agenda. We have our regular meeting minutes from our board 32 00:01:11,740 --> 00:01:15,720 meeting on August 6th, our work study minutes from 33 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,460 that same date, August 6th, the DPW monthly report for the month of 34 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:22,340 July, our approved MUC minutes for July 14th, 35 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,390 bills list dated today, 36 00:01:25,340 --> 00:01:27,860 and one additional bill for bills list, 37 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:30,460 which is from Huron Lake Weed Control. 38 00:01:32,580 --> 00:01:36,220 Do I have any action on the consent agenda as posted? 39 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,340 I move as presented. 40 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:38,940 All right. 41 00:01:40,740 --> 00:01:41,200 I'll second. 42 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:44,620 Moved by Dolan, seconded by Menzies, to approve the consent agenda as 43 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,740 presented. 44 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,200 Any discussion? 45 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,240 All in favor? 46 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:50,840 Aye. 47 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:51,120 Aye. 48 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:51,670 Aye. 49 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:51,670 Aye. 50 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:51,670 Aye. 51 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:52,979 Aye. Any opposed? All right, we're good. 52 00:01:54,940 --> 00:01:56,560 We have some changes to the agenda. 53 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,920 I'll make a motion that we approve tonight's agenda as published with 54 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,300 three additions, 55 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,100 two of them being invoices, and then a second closed 56 00:02:06,180 --> 00:02:09,060 session regarding police contract negotiations. 57 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,690 The second one for property acquisitions that we- 58 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:13,220 Oh, yeah. That one's already on there. 59 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:13,310 Right. 60 00:02:13,420 --> 00:02:13,980 Second one for 61 00:02:15,340 --> 00:02:18,640 property acquisitions that got moved over from our 6:30 meeting. 62 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,280 I'll second. 63 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,230 Sorry about that. 64 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:21,310 I'll second it. 65 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,840 All right. Moved by Dolan, seconded by Miller. 66 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:25,520 Any other changes, additions, deletions? 67 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:27,360 All in favor? 68 00:02:27,940 --> 00:02:28,260 Aye. 69 00:02:28,989 --> 00:02:28,989 Aye. 70 00:02:28,989 --> 00:02:28,989 Aye. 71 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,049 Aye. 72 00:02:29,049 --> 00:02:29,049 Aye. 73 00:02:29,049 --> 00:02:29,260 All right. 74 00:02:31,540 --> 00:02:34,580 No unfinished business. Freedom River Fall Festival. 75 00:02:36,740 --> 00:02:37,540 Fourth annual. 76 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,340 All right. 77 00:02:38,380 --> 00:02:41,540 Scheduled for October 17th. So 78 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,120 Freedom River is requesting a permit to hang 79 00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:48,760 the end of the road banner as we've done every other year, 80 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:53,420 beginning September 1st through the end of October. 81 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,340 The township has to make the request through the Livingston County Road Commission. 82 00:02:59,380 --> 00:02:59,580 So 83 00:03:01,780 --> 00:03:03,920 that's why it's before us. 84 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Okay. 85 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:08,320 Make a motion to support the recommendation to 86 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,120 the county, is that correct? 87 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:11,230 Yeah. 88 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:14,920 For the approval of the banner for the Freedom 89 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:15,400 River- 90 00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:19,220 Fall Fest 91 00:03:19,230 --> 00:03:20,000 ... Fall Fest, sorry. Fall Fest. 92 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,080 All right. I'll second that. Moved by Miller, seconded by Negri, to support the 93 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:26,020 petition to the County Road Commission for the banner. 94 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,080 Any discussion on this? 95 00:03:29,580 --> 00:03:30,060 All in favor? 96 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:30,940 Aye. 97 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:30,970 Aye. 98 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:30,970 Aye. 99 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:30,970 Aye. 100 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:30,970 Aye. 101 00:03:30,970 --> 00:03:31,520 Aye. Any opposed? 102 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:35,640 All right. Motion carries. Let me just add that to my calendar. 103 00:03:35,710 --> 00:03:37,080 Saturday, October 17th. 104 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,260 We can just get one festival done. 105 00:03:46,580 --> 00:03:46,780 Yeah. 106 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,420 You just can't get enough of it. 107 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,650 I know. Yeah. 108 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:52,320 All right. Very good. 109 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:57,640 Next up, we have the two bills lists, bills that were added to 110 00:03:57,660 --> 00:04:01,060 tonight. The first one is the MERS invoice, which I think we all would like to 111 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:04,920 skip, but we knew this was coming. This is the 112 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,840 invoice from MERS pursuant to the 113 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,600 negotiations with patrol regarding benefit 114 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,160 enhancement 115 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,240 for $413,000. 116 00:04:17,161 --> 00:04:18,921 Motion to pre-payment to MERS for 117 00:04:18,930 --> 00:04:21,240 $413,884. 118 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,140 Second for some discussion. 119 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:25,580 Yes. 120 00:04:25,620 --> 00:04:28,240 All right. Moved by Dolan, seconded by Miller. Discussion. 121 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,700 Where's the money coming from? 122 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,980 That's what we're going to discuss. 123 00:04:33,060 --> 00:04:33,260 Yeah. 124 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,680 It's coded to the police fund right now. 125 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,420 So 126 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,860 I attached on your fourth quarter amendment that 127 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:46,020 we already approved. 128 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:48,940 We did these back in July. 129 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,500 We are moving money out of general 130 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:53,920 fund, 131 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,820 101 general fund, into 207 police 132 00:04:58,860 --> 00:05:00,800 operations. That particular 133 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,600 general ledger number is the MERS funding deficiency line 134 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:05,980 item. 135 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,620 The question is, 136 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,280 are we going to 137 00:05:23,020 --> 00:05:23,680 require 138 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,700 that money to be paid back to the general fund from the 139 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:32,480 police fund once they get actual cash 140 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:35,140 from the December tax collection? 141 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:36,160 That's 142 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,060 really what's before us. 143 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,900 We have, if you don't 144 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,120 require that, 145 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:55,220 we have a policy of 125% 146 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,580 funding reserves, 147 00:05:59,460 --> 00:06:02,760 undesignated reserves of 125% of the previous year's 148 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:03,520 expenditures 149 00:06:05,116 --> 00:06:06,636 Before that, I don't have it with me. 150 00:06:06,656 --> 00:06:07,596 Does anybody have their 151 00:06:09,156 --> 00:06:09,876 budget with them? 152 00:06:10,296 --> 00:06:11,036 No. 153 00:06:11,096 --> 00:06:12,476 We have monies 154 00:06:13,696 --> 00:06:17,316 set aside, such as in this current budget year, $300,000 for 155 00:06:17,456 --> 00:06:19,656 parking lot, future parking lot repair, 156 00:06:20,526 --> 00:06:22,736 $100,000 for future- 157 00:06:23,436 --> 00:06:23,446 200,000. 158 00:06:23,456 --> 00:06:23,776 What's that? 159 00:06:24,116 --> 00:06:26,216 200,000 for the parking lot. 160 00:06:26,286 --> 00:06:28,056 Parking lot. 100,000 for elections. 161 00:06:28,936 --> 00:06:30,056 Is this the paper? 162 00:06:30,296 --> 00:06:33,236 Yeah. Yes. Did I hand that to you, or is it yours? 163 00:06:33,296 --> 00:06:33,836 No, it's mine. 164 00:06:33,936 --> 00:06:35,016 Oh. It's mine now. 165 00:06:35,536 --> 00:06:36,316 No, it isn't. 166 00:06:38,096 --> 00:06:42,076 We have approximately $500,000 in reserve funds, 167 00:06:43,076 --> 00:06:45,276 specific reserve funds, election equipment, 168 00:06:46,536 --> 00:06:47,196 regular equipment, 169 00:06:48,316 --> 00:06:49,096 vehicle purchase, 170 00:06:50,856 --> 00:06:51,336 parking lot, 171 00:06:52,156 --> 00:06:52,836 weed harvesting. 172 00:06:53,776 --> 00:06:57,176 And then that leaves us, after the 125%, 173 00:06:57,896 --> 00:07:00,336 leaves us a balance of 174 00:07:01,896 --> 00:07:03,476 just under $100,000. 175 00:07:04,836 --> 00:07:07,736 So we would, if we're not going to 176 00:07:08,396 --> 00:07:10,936 recapture these funds in December, 177 00:07:13,956 --> 00:07:15,596 we would need to eliminate 178 00:07:17,556 --> 00:07:20,716 the reserve funds of about 500,000. 179 00:07:20,776 --> 00:07:24,276 We would have to eliminate 415,000 and then less 180 00:07:24,356 --> 00:07:28,136 $97,000, or else we're violating our own policy and we'll go below the 181 00:07:28,236 --> 00:07:28,976 125. 182 00:07:29,076 --> 00:07:32,416 Mike, we knew going into this that we had that outstanding. 183 00:07:32,816 --> 00:07:36,576 This board approved it to come out of the general fund when 184 00:07:37,076 --> 00:07:38,136 we first looked at it. 185 00:07:39,356 --> 00:07:40,836 We knew we had it going in. 186 00:07:42,096 --> 00:07:45,976 How did it not get included? In fact, I believe at 187 00:07:46,056 --> 00:07:46,256 the 188 00:07:47,156 --> 00:07:51,056 strategic planning, we talked about that that was outstanding, 189 00:07:51,636 --> 00:07:52,056 as 190 00:07:53,016 --> 00:07:53,716 was the 191 00:07:55,256 --> 00:07:56,076 IRS issue, 192 00:07:57,136 --> 00:08:00,736 those monies, and those would hit the general fund. We discussed it. 193 00:08:02,056 --> 00:08:05,826 We can't now, because the police millage got passed, 194 00:08:06,356 --> 00:08:08,756 change our mind and go to them and say, "Okay. 195 00:08:09,076 --> 00:08:11,656 It was originally going to come out of the general fund, but now it's not. 196 00:08:11,956 --> 00:08:13,455 It's got to come out of the police fund." 197 00:08:14,936 --> 00:08:18,696 I strongly disagree with that. I think it needs to come 198 00:08:18,756 --> 00:08:20,676 from where we intended it to come from. 199 00:08:21,116 --> 00:08:25,076 There was a lot more involved in that, not just the police 200 00:08:25,156 --> 00:08:28,596 contract when we made that decision to go forward with that 201 00:08:29,256 --> 00:08:30,216 plan. So, 202 00:08:32,376 --> 00:08:34,805 I don't think we can change our mind now because- 203 00:08:34,856 --> 00:08:36,656 I don't recall that conversation at all. 204 00:08:38,096 --> 00:08:38,836 I went back and 205 00:08:39,656 --> 00:08:41,196 I did a little bit of research because I was- 206 00:08:42,076 --> 00:08:42,417 Yeah. Go ahead 207 00:08:42,437 --> 00:08:43,946 ... taken aback at our last meeting- 208 00:08:44,016 --> 00:08:44,177 Yep 209 00:08:44,216 --> 00:08:47,556 ... discussion. And actually, it was you who brought it up 210 00:08:48,116 --> 00:08:52,076 at the strategic planning and said, "We have these two 211 00:08:52,196 --> 00:08:52,326 items coming out-" 212 00:08:52,336 --> 00:08:53,216 We need to address it. 213 00:08:53,226 --> 00:08:56,856 "... general fund," when we were talking about the percentage 214 00:08:57,116 --> 00:08:59,596 that we needed to set aside. So, 215 00:09:00,956 --> 00:09:04,816 I just feel that we can't just change our mind now because the millage was 216 00:09:04,916 --> 00:09:05,636 passed. 217 00:09:06,776 --> 00:09:10,186 Well, thankfully, we have a little bit of money that we were going to transfer into 218 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:13,746 the police budget this upcoming year that we don't need to anymore. 219 00:09:13,776 --> 00:09:16,176 Well, there was also a discussion about that, Jason. 220 00:09:16,836 --> 00:09:18,876 Now, you're getting into a second point. 221 00:09:18,896 --> 00:09:20,596 It's $555,000- 222 00:09:20,606 --> 00:09:20,606 It's $555,000 223 00:09:20,616 --> 00:09:22,036 ... that we transferred. 224 00:09:22,536 --> 00:09:23,756 We transferred, and 225 00:09:25,956 --> 00:09:29,796 Nick was pretty strong on this, that that money would be a 226 00:09:29,836 --> 00:09:31,236 good cushion to 227 00:09:33,016 --> 00:09:34,716 allow us to go the 10 years. 228 00:09:34,756 --> 00:09:34,865 Mm-hmm. 229 00:09:35,156 --> 00:09:38,976 If the millage passed, having that 555 in the 230 00:09:39,016 --> 00:09:42,876 police budget would be a good cushion going into this 231 00:09:43,536 --> 00:09:47,236 next 10 years. And we discussed that as well. 232 00:09:51,496 --> 00:09:55,136 Okay. So the police is going to bring in, what is it, more than 233 00:09:55,156 --> 00:09:57,216 $800,000 than what they're budgeted for. 234 00:10:01,036 --> 00:10:01,796 Just this summer. 235 00:10:04,116 --> 00:10:07,676 The budget that's already passed is not contemplated on the millage passing. 236 00:10:07,696 --> 00:10:09,115 100%. That's correct. 237 00:10:09,456 --> 00:10:09,466 Mm-hmm. 238 00:10:09,466 --> 00:10:13,036 And if that number is correct, you are right, because it's a- 239 00:10:13,476 --> 00:10:16,736 Well, half a mil brings in $753,000. 240 00:10:16,796 --> 00:10:16,956 Okay. 241 00:10:17,616 --> 00:10:20,716 They were two and a half, less the rollback. 242 00:10:20,876 --> 00:10:22,185 I think they were at two three something. 243 00:10:22,435 --> 00:10:23,016 2.6. 244 00:10:23,216 --> 00:10:25,176 2.6, and they're now at three, so- 245 00:10:25,495 --> 00:10:25,816 That's like a- 246 00:10:26,076 --> 00:10:26,456 ... six and 247 00:10:28,016 --> 00:10:29,736 a half or whatever, 0.6 and a half. 248 00:10:29,836 --> 00:10:30,076 Mm-hmm. 249 00:10:30,456 --> 00:10:34,396 Half a mil brings in 753, so somewhere north of 800,000, I would 250 00:10:34,436 --> 00:10:36,036 imagine. I don't know the exact number. 251 00:10:36,876 --> 00:10:40,356 So, but that's the way you make a 10-year 252 00:10:40,856 --> 00:10:44,576 millage work is that first year, you invest all that money. 253 00:10:45,136 --> 00:10:45,436 That's 254 00:10:47,116 --> 00:10:50,796 how come at the end of that, you have a little bit of monies 255 00:10:50,896 --> 00:10:54,776 left to do that, right? And we've been doing this for a 256 00:10:54,816 --> 00:10:58,776 long time. If you probably go back and look at all of our 257 00:10:58,816 --> 00:11:02,736 first-year millages, that's how we did that, because we budget with the 258 00:11:02,776 --> 00:11:06,616 understanding that it doesn't pass, and we know that when we collect that money in 259 00:11:06,656 --> 00:11:10,406 December, in essence, it gives us a little bit of a savings, 260 00:11:11,436 --> 00:11:15,036 right? To allow us year eight, nine, and ten to have the monies we 261 00:11:15,096 --> 00:11:15,476 need. 262 00:11:17,276 --> 00:11:20,856 That's been our past practice in this organization for the last 263 00:11:22,236 --> 00:11:23,476 20 years that I can think of. 264 00:11:28,116 --> 00:11:32,096 We knew this 400,000 was coming, and we thought it was going to 265 00:11:32,136 --> 00:11:35,816 come out of last budget year. And just reading this document you gave us, it talks 266 00:11:35,836 --> 00:11:37,476 about fourth quarter police fund. 267 00:11:37,576 --> 00:11:40,026 What is that referencing, fourth quarter, 268 00:11:40,996 --> 00:11:44,046 on the second page of that? It just says fourth quarter. 269 00:11:45,276 --> 00:11:48,826 Just make sure we're talking, that you pulled this out of this year's, 270 00:11:49,476 --> 00:11:50,146 not last year's. 271 00:11:50,176 --> 00:11:51,196 This was- 272 00:11:51,456 --> 00:11:53,446 Fourth quarter from last year. 273 00:11:53,816 --> 00:11:55,256 Fourth quarter in last fiscal year. 274 00:11:55,276 --> 00:11:55,486 Mike is- 275 00:11:55,496 --> 00:11:57,336 The board already approved this in July. 276 00:11:57,416 --> 00:12:01,236 Yeah. Okay, so isn't this 277 00:12:01,276 --> 00:12:02,376 money already earmarked somewhere? 278 00:12:03,116 --> 00:12:05,436 No, it was not journalized or dealt with because 279 00:12:06,276 --> 00:12:07,496 no invoice actually came 280 00:12:09,088 --> 00:12:13,048 So it will be journalized. We don't need to change any 281 00:12:13,068 --> 00:12:16,428 amendments. This amendment is still valid from last year. 282 00:12:16,488 --> 00:12:19,008 This invoice is from last fiscal year. 283 00:12:19,078 --> 00:12:21,298 This is going to be billed back to last fiscal year, 284 00:12:22,588 --> 00:12:25,298 journalized for last fiscal year, but in 285 00:12:25,348 --> 00:12:27,998 reality, our starting 286 00:12:29,648 --> 00:12:33,208 projected fund balance of 63027, which is 287 00:12:33,468 --> 00:12:34,728 8.13, 288 00:12:35,708 --> 00:12:39,448 is not realizing the reduction of this 415. 289 00:12:40,188 --> 00:12:41,688 So our starting projected 290 00:12:42,528 --> 00:12:44,748 less 415 changes your 291 00:12:46,268 --> 00:12:47,508 remaining fund balance. 292 00:12:50,548 --> 00:12:51,188 All right. So 293 00:12:52,928 --> 00:12:56,848 just to be clear, this invoice is dated today, so you're 294 00:12:56,888 --> 00:13:00,048 going to get them to change the invoice date to June 30th? 295 00:13:00,748 --> 00:13:01,157 No, this 296 00:13:02,248 --> 00:13:06,208 payment is from action that occurred January 297 00:13:06,348 --> 00:13:07,848 1st, 2026. 298 00:13:07,928 --> 00:13:11,768 I get it, right? That we've been asking for months for this document- 299 00:13:11,888 --> 00:13:12,228 You're right 300 00:13:12,248 --> 00:13:13,407 ... so we could take care of it. 301 00:13:13,487 --> 00:13:13,608 Right. 302 00:13:14,168 --> 00:13:17,028 But I don't know how you go back to last fiscal year. 303 00:13:17,788 --> 00:13:21,108 This is invoiced. This invoice then isn't good. 304 00:13:22,188 --> 00:13:26,108 It is good. The bills list you just approved, 305 00:13:27,928 --> 00:13:29,888 a large number of those that are dated 306 00:13:31,508 --> 00:13:35,348 after June 30th are being paid. They're earmarked from 307 00:13:35,428 --> 00:13:36,848 last fiscal year. 308 00:13:41,088 --> 00:13:42,108 I know that... 309 00:13:42,988 --> 00:13:43,908 Okay. 310 00:13:45,008 --> 00:13:47,448 So the date of August 18th is not a problem? 311 00:13:47,808 --> 00:13:48,748 No, not a problem. 312 00:13:52,628 --> 00:13:56,008 If it were a problem, would MERS change the date on that invoice? 313 00:13:59,508 --> 00:14:00,988 Well, it took six months to get this one. 314 00:14:02,168 --> 00:14:04,028 I know. 315 00:14:04,988 --> 00:14:07,968 All right. So this fourth quarter budget amendment that we already did- 316 00:14:08,168 --> 00:14:08,318 Mm-hmm 317 00:14:08,318 --> 00:14:10,648 ... transferred 413 and change 318 00:14:12,568 --> 00:14:14,328 from our general fund to the police fund. 319 00:14:15,308 --> 00:14:16,168 Is that what this is telling me? 320 00:14:16,608 --> 00:14:16,828 That's 321 00:14:17,968 --> 00:14:19,208 what the action was, 322 00:14:20,488 --> 00:14:20,688 but- 323 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:22,348 But it didn't happen 324 00:14:22,388 --> 00:14:25,538 It didn't happen. It was never journalized because we were waiting for the invoice. 325 00:14:25,548 --> 00:14:26,848 We didn't know what was. Right. 326 00:14:30,208 --> 00:14:33,428 So how did the books balance at the end then? 327 00:14:33,488 --> 00:14:35,468 If there's a journal entry that says we moved- 328 00:14:35,948 --> 00:14:36,858 We haven't audited yet 329 00:14:36,858 --> 00:14:39,028 ... 413, well, we moved $413,000- 330 00:14:39,328 --> 00:14:40,598 There is no journal entry yet. 331 00:14:41,068 --> 00:14:41,078 There's no journal entry. 332 00:14:41,078 --> 00:14:42,428 There was no journal entry made. 333 00:14:42,488 --> 00:14:45,408 So this document you got from, is from what? 334 00:14:46,478 --> 00:14:49,338 This second page you gave us that says that- 335 00:14:49,338 --> 00:14:51,348 This is from the board packet back in July. 336 00:14:51,688 --> 00:14:55,168 If you guys remember, we had two or 337 00:14:55,188 --> 00:14:56,828 three pages of budget amendments. 338 00:14:56,928 --> 00:15:00,068 I only attached one because it has to do with this particular invoice. 339 00:15:00,768 --> 00:15:04,748 We did all these budget amendments back in July, prepared by 340 00:15:04,808 --> 00:15:05,368 Michelle Lewis. 341 00:15:15,808 --> 00:15:17,088 If it makes you all feel comfortable, 342 00:15:18,428 --> 00:15:20,888 you seem to be questioning my knowledge here. 343 00:15:22,208 --> 00:15:26,128 I did discuss every bit of this with Michelle Lewis at 344 00:15:26,168 --> 00:15:27,588 about 5:30 this afternoon, 345 00:15:28,588 --> 00:15:32,488 and I assure you everything that I'm sharing with you was discussed in 346 00:15:32,528 --> 00:15:35,388 our conversation, and we simply have a decision to make. 347 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:37,328 Where do you want the money to come from? 348 00:15:39,488 --> 00:15:43,128 Excuse me. We've already made the action. 349 00:15:43,928 --> 00:15:46,508 It's already a done deal. It's coming from general fund. 350 00:15:46,768 --> 00:15:47,408 Right. 351 00:15:47,468 --> 00:15:48,108 That's done. 352 00:15:49,108 --> 00:15:53,038 Are we going to insist that it's paid back in December from the police fund? 353 00:15:54,328 --> 00:15:57,628 If not, then we have a policy to address. 354 00:15:59,188 --> 00:16:01,228 Because the loss of this 413,000- 355 00:16:01,648 --> 00:16:02,038 That's going below 356 00:16:02,038 --> 00:16:05,088 ... is going to set us below our policy of 125%. 357 00:16:05,288 --> 00:16:05,488 Yes. 358 00:16:06,528 --> 00:16:07,908 Given these earmarks we've already got. 359 00:16:08,328 --> 00:16:09,868 Unless we eliminate the earmarks. 360 00:16:09,908 --> 00:16:11,768 Unless we eliminate the earmarks or get the money from somewhere else. 361 00:16:12,128 --> 00:16:12,288 Or- 362 00:16:12,408 --> 00:16:14,488 Like the 525 we were going to give to the police this year. 363 00:16:14,568 --> 00:16:16,308 Well, the 555- 364 00:16:16,318 --> 00:16:16,318 555 365 00:16:16,318 --> 00:16:17,638 ... 555 366 00:16:18,808 --> 00:16:21,288 is contemplated in the budget we already passed. 367 00:16:21,348 --> 00:16:22,408 Mm-hmm. 368 00:16:23,248 --> 00:16:26,278 And I believe his remaining fund balance is 369 00:16:27,108 --> 00:16:28,748 under 1,000 bucks, like 500 bucks. 370 00:16:28,868 --> 00:16:29,228 Oh, boy. 371 00:16:31,148 --> 00:16:32,628 He doesn't carry a fund balance. 372 00:16:33,568 --> 00:16:37,388 If you look at the budget that we passed, his department budget 373 00:16:37,848 --> 00:16:38,508 for the police 374 00:16:40,268 --> 00:16:41,728 with the 555 transfer- 375 00:16:42,028 --> 00:16:42,188 Mm-hmm 376 00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:43,808 ... leaves 377 00:16:44,828 --> 00:16:45,528 very tight budget. 378 00:16:45,708 --> 00:16:46,108 Exactly. 379 00:16:46,568 --> 00:16:50,008 Now they're going to draw in these additional monies. 380 00:16:50,048 --> 00:16:52,968 Yes. Yep, to the tune of 800,000. Which means- 381 00:16:53,008 --> 00:16:53,198 That's it 382 00:16:53,488 --> 00:16:53,968 ... even if we 383 00:16:55,168 --> 00:16:58,088 take this 413, they're still going to be 400,000 in the hole. 384 00:16:58,788 --> 00:16:59,208 Yes, they are. 385 00:16:59,688 --> 00:17:03,588 Is there any way to have them pay it back over a number of years 386 00:17:03,648 --> 00:17:05,689 and still give you enough to- 387 00:17:06,308 --> 00:17:07,008 Thank you. 388 00:17:07,748 --> 00:17:10,848 ... save your reserve for the general fund issue? 389 00:17:11,108 --> 00:17:12,008 We could do that, sure. 390 00:17:12,408 --> 00:17:12,689 So the- 391 00:17:12,908 --> 00:17:14,268 We would still need to 392 00:17:15,848 --> 00:17:17,408 amend this document though, because- 393 00:17:17,469 --> 00:17:21,098 We don't because the 125%, all it 394 00:17:21,388 --> 00:17:23,508 states is Jason has to present a plan. 395 00:17:25,048 --> 00:17:27,348 That's all it states. We don't have to modify the document. 396 00:17:27,768 --> 00:17:31,748 If it's less than 125% but greater than 100%, if I remember correctly 397 00:17:31,788 --> 00:17:32,438 how we worded that- 398 00:17:32,808 --> 00:17:32,857 Mm-hmm 399 00:17:33,848 --> 00:17:36,308 ... then the supervisor presents a plan- 400 00:17:36,388 --> 00:17:36,748 Correct 401 00:17:36,758 --> 00:17:39,668 ... on how we're going to get back to the 125%. 402 00:17:39,868 --> 00:17:39,998 Mm-hmm. 403 00:17:40,308 --> 00:17:43,838 And over the next five years, we are going to decrease our 404 00:17:43,928 --> 00:17:47,348 spending, right, or whatever, to get us back to the 405 00:17:47,408 --> 00:17:48,448 125%. 406 00:17:49,448 --> 00:17:53,368 I'm going off of memory here. I've pulled that, but I'm pretty sure- 407 00:17:53,708 --> 00:17:53,718 Sure. Yeah 408 00:17:53,718 --> 00:17:55,888 ... I'm pretty sure that's how that's worded. 409 00:17:56,048 --> 00:17:56,788 Was there a timeline? 410 00:17:57,388 --> 00:17:58,328 No, it's just a plan. 411 00:17:58,348 --> 00:17:59,568 To get back to 125? Okay. 412 00:18:00,168 --> 00:18:02,888 Because you don't want to put that on there, because if all of a sudden something 413 00:18:02,928 --> 00:18:04,508 major catastrophic happens- 414 00:18:04,928 --> 00:18:04,938 Yeah 415 00:18:04,938 --> 00:18:08,848 ... right, and we've got to spend $500,000 in the police, right, that drops 416 00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:12,228 us down, how do we recover that in a year, right? That's not possible. 417 00:18:12,368 --> 00:18:15,178 So we didn't put a timeline on it. We just said- 418 00:18:15,178 --> 00:18:18,568 And unexpected catastrophic expenses are precisely why we have reserves. 419 00:18:18,708 --> 00:18:19,288 Exactly. 420 00:18:19,348 --> 00:18:19,478 That's why. 421 00:18:19,478 --> 00:18:20,228 It's why we're sitting there. 422 00:18:21,348 --> 00:18:21,438 Mm-hmm. 423 00:18:22,272 --> 00:18:25,152 I guess what I'd like to do is probably need to review the policy. 424 00:18:25,212 --> 00:18:28,652 I guess I'd really like to get the exact budget with all these 425 00:18:28,732 --> 00:18:32,692 adjustments to see where exactly what our undesignated reserves 426 00:18:32,732 --> 00:18:36,612 are across the board, if we're this tight where we need to 427 00:18:36,652 --> 00:18:40,592 be. So before I would make any decision on needing to 428 00:18:40,632 --> 00:18:44,192 be reimbursed, I guess I'd want to see hard numbers, like the factual numbers for 429 00:18:44,232 --> 00:18:48,112 each one for undesignated stuff. And then let's look at that policy, because 430 00:18:48,172 --> 00:18:51,792 I'm pretty sure it was worded between 100 and 125%, the 431 00:18:51,832 --> 00:18:54,901 supervisor just has to make a recommendation. It's not a policy change. 432 00:18:55,632 --> 00:18:59,432 We're going to follow the policy. We're going to come up with that plan, and if the 433 00:18:59,472 --> 00:19:03,232 plan that he presents after he sits down with his leadership 434 00:19:03,332 --> 00:19:04,872 team and you guys come back and say, 435 00:19:05,752 --> 00:19:08,852 "Okay, over the next 10 years, they're going to give us 436 00:19:08,862 --> 00:19:11,592 $50,000." Right? Or eight years, right? 437 00:19:11,732 --> 00:19:14,992 Make the number work or whatever, right? That's the plan. 438 00:19:15,552 --> 00:19:16,852 If that's how we want to do it. 439 00:19:18,812 --> 00:19:18,992 But- 440 00:19:20,152 --> 00:19:22,692 Or we reduce spending 441 00:19:22,732 --> 00:19:23,892 ... or reduce spending or not ask for it back. 442 00:19:23,952 --> 00:19:24,972 There's different- 443 00:19:25,192 --> 00:19:28,252 In my opinion, I would only support two things. 444 00:19:28,552 --> 00:19:31,912 One, removing the line items on the 445 00:19:31,992 --> 00:19:35,392 designated reserves, parking lot, what have you, that have to be kicked down the 446 00:19:35,412 --> 00:19:39,252 road to another time, or police 447 00:19:39,352 --> 00:19:42,702 reimburse us, because it is 100% a police expense. 448 00:19:42,752 --> 00:19:43,372 Police matter. 449 00:19:48,212 --> 00:19:52,042 It was a police expense because this board made it a 450 00:19:52,052 --> 00:19:55,052 necessity to save these residents 451 00:19:57,132 --> 00:19:58,372 a decent amount of money. 452 00:19:59,152 --> 00:19:59,652 Over time. 453 00:19:59,892 --> 00:20:02,202 Over time . Right? We did this- 454 00:20:02,312 --> 00:20:03,362 But we knew it was going to be a hit right now 455 00:20:03,372 --> 00:20:07,332 ... we knew we did this because every new hire that's 456 00:20:07,412 --> 00:20:11,312 in a union right now, in the future, has a fixed cost to us now. 457 00:20:11,432 --> 00:20:11,612 Mm-hmm. 458 00:20:12,092 --> 00:20:15,192 And instead of this continually being a problem, this board, 459 00:20:15,832 --> 00:20:19,652 before a few of us sat here at the table, you guys all committed just over a 460 00:20:19,712 --> 00:20:23,412 million bucks, right, into this fund to try to 461 00:20:24,652 --> 00:20:27,972 make it equal, and then come to find out we're still $400,000 short. 462 00:20:28,592 --> 00:20:29,732 That's not happening anymore. 463 00:20:29,972 --> 00:20:31,772 Joanna brought a 464 00:20:32,891 --> 00:20:33,932 reminder and clarity 465 00:20:35,032 --> 00:20:35,292 that 466 00:20:37,292 --> 00:20:40,492 all the way up until strategic planning, the board had already made the 467 00:20:40,532 --> 00:20:44,172 decision in closed session, contract negotiations on this 468 00:20:44,181 --> 00:20:47,752 IV-13. We did not discuss it then. That's why I felt it was important for 469 00:20:47,792 --> 00:20:51,422 us to remind ourselves during strategic planning, 470 00:20:52,052 --> 00:20:54,152 don't forget about this. Those bills coming due. 471 00:20:54,241 --> 00:20:56,332 We need to decide where it's coming from. 472 00:20:57,532 --> 00:20:57,772 So. 473 00:20:57,932 --> 00:20:59,212 What 474 00:21:00,132 --> 00:21:03,852 fiscal budget year is Tony really wanting to 475 00:21:03,912 --> 00:21:04,532 repave 476 00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:06,392 the parking lot? 477 00:21:08,672 --> 00:21:09,572 He has not 478 00:21:10,512 --> 00:21:12,292 identified a specific year. 479 00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:17,612 He just want us to set the money aside, because at some point in the next- 480 00:21:17,632 --> 00:21:17,872 It's going to happen 481 00:21:17,912 --> 00:21:19,652 ... six or seven years, it will need to happen- 482 00:21:19,712 --> 00:21:20,132 And we'll be able- 483 00:21:20,162 --> 00:21:20,972 ... based upon the deterioration. 484 00:21:21,012 --> 00:21:22,552 And we want to keep paying cash for things. 485 00:21:22,632 --> 00:21:23,572 Yes. 486 00:21:23,912 --> 00:21:27,332 Can't we, as we go through the next five 487 00:21:27,972 --> 00:21:29,112 budget cycles, 488 00:21:29,932 --> 00:21:32,112 make sure he's giving enough- 489 00:21:32,121 --> 00:21:32,982 Quite a few bucks aside 490 00:21:32,992 --> 00:21:35,112 ... to get him back to where he is today? 491 00:21:35,572 --> 00:21:38,842 We can, sure. Knowing that that big expense is coming down the pipe- 492 00:21:38,892 --> 00:21:39,181 I think that's the best idea 493 00:21:39,192 --> 00:21:41,012 ... yes, we will have to do that. 494 00:21:41,052 --> 00:21:41,892 And- 495 00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:45,522 The discussion that we had at strategic planning was that, 496 00:21:46,812 --> 00:21:50,152 Jason had originally recommended, or Tony or whoever, 497 00:21:50,522 --> 00:21:51,892 $100,000. 498 00:21:52,532 --> 00:21:52,542 Mm-hmm. 499 00:21:52,592 --> 00:21:52,932 And 500 00:21:53,832 --> 00:21:56,181 Jason then requested that we- 501 00:21:56,192 --> 00:21:56,632 Audible 502 00:21:56,672 --> 00:21:58,702 An additional 100 because we could afford it at the time. 503 00:21:58,702 --> 00:22:01,532 Right, that we increase it. And my question was about 504 00:22:02,292 --> 00:22:02,852 Julie's 505 00:22:03,952 --> 00:22:07,872 goals and objectives included the engineering review or plan 506 00:22:07,912 --> 00:22:11,872 or whatever. And we had just received, 507 00:22:12,252 --> 00:22:15,472 apparently, a quote for that. It was $5,000 to get that done. 508 00:22:17,152 --> 00:22:17,492 So 509 00:22:18,812 --> 00:22:22,692 that 200,000, I wouldn't want to see it all go away, but I 510 00:22:22,792 --> 00:22:25,152 think that we could push that off 511 00:22:26,072 --> 00:22:26,412 to help 512 00:22:27,272 --> 00:22:27,681 cover the costs. 513 00:22:27,942 --> 00:22:31,172 And come the end of our fiscal year, if we're just very responsible- 514 00:22:31,232 --> 00:22:31,282 Right 515 00:22:31,292 --> 00:22:33,292 ... throughout the next 10 months- 516 00:22:33,452 --> 00:22:33,652 Mm-hmm 517 00:22:34,112 --> 00:22:37,932 ... then if we don't do projects or they come in under budget, hopefully in 518 00:22:37,952 --> 00:22:41,812 different spots, then those extra funds, then we balance this thing back out. 519 00:22:41,852 --> 00:22:44,252 We return funds, unused funds every year. 520 00:22:46,212 --> 00:22:47,472 We return funds every year. 521 00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:47,652 Right. 522 00:22:48,072 --> 00:22:51,812 And we also budget very conservatively on our revenue side. 523 00:22:51,972 --> 00:22:52,272 Right. 524 00:22:52,352 --> 00:22:52,532 So. 525 00:22:53,892 --> 00:22:57,852 And if those apartments go through, we're going to have a lot more money, some of 526 00:22:57,912 --> 00:23:01,412 it in sewer funds, but some in water tap fees that we were not planning on having. 527 00:23:01,432 --> 00:23:01,572 That's- 528 00:23:02,272 --> 00:23:02,282 So- 529 00:23:02,282 --> 00:23:03,182 ... a good source of revenue 530 00:23:03,232 --> 00:23:07,182 ... I would be in support of keeping this as a status quo, that we do 531 00:23:07,212 --> 00:23:10,992 our budget transfer as initially planned, and then I'll let the 532 00:23:11,032 --> 00:23:14,852 executive team talk a little bit more about it, 533 00:23:14,972 --> 00:23:18,752 but I don't see us getting under our 125% till the end of the fiscal year 534 00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:22,032 because those reserve funds that we're going to designate. 535 00:23:22,432 --> 00:23:26,172 And then we might just have to amend that budget at that point to, if 536 00:23:26,452 --> 00:23:29,752 we budget at 300 and we only get to do 150, right? 537 00:23:29,972 --> 00:23:32,472 Those are things that we can look at then, but at this point, 538 00:23:33,312 --> 00:23:36,492 I think that those monies, 539 00:23:37,232 --> 00:23:40,012 I'm comfortable leaving where they were. So currently are. 540 00:23:42,552 --> 00:23:42,792 All right. 541 00:23:43,192 --> 00:23:45,612 Your motion, Mike, was just to pay the bill? 542 00:23:46,432 --> 00:23:47,172 Approve payment, yeah. 543 00:23:47,632 --> 00:23:47,872 Okay. 544 00:23:50,452 --> 00:23:52,482 Because nothing else is needed because we've already done this. 545 00:23:52,482 --> 00:23:53,192 Because we've already done this. 546 00:23:53,272 --> 00:23:53,592 Yep. 547 00:23:53,732 --> 00:23:55,422 We've already done it in the budget amendment. 548 00:23:55,732 --> 00:23:55,892 Yep. 549 00:23:58,832 --> 00:24:00,992 All right. Was your motion seconded, by Miller? 550 00:24:01,072 --> 00:24:01,512 Yes, I did. 551 00:24:01,652 --> 00:24:02,312 Discussion. 552 00:24:02,872 --> 00:24:04,372 So we still have time to discuss where we're- 553 00:24:05,042 --> 00:24:07,371 We got the entire fiscal year to decide. 554 00:24:07,432 --> 00:24:07,512 Yeah. 555 00:24:07,572 --> 00:24:08,702 No, seriously, we have the entire fiscal year. 556 00:24:08,732 --> 00:24:09,932 I don't want to drag it out like that, but- 557 00:24:10,292 --> 00:24:10,702 But we could, 558 00:24:11,512 --> 00:24:11,932 and it might- 559 00:24:11,942 --> 00:24:11,942 Yeah 560 00:24:11,972 --> 00:24:13,052 ... very well come towards the end. 561 00:24:13,092 --> 00:24:13,872 We might sit there- 562 00:24:13,922 --> 00:24:13,922 Right 563 00:24:13,922 --> 00:24:16,452 ... and have to say, "Okay, police," and right? 564 00:24:16,752 --> 00:24:16,902 Mm-hmm. 565 00:24:17,552 --> 00:24:21,182 Give a little bit. Maybe it's a split. Maybe it's a 75/25, right? 566 00:24:21,272 --> 00:24:23,231 Whatever type thing, but- 567 00:24:25,052 --> 00:24:27,872 You guys picked through that a little bit and how you're going to keep us at- 568 00:24:27,952 --> 00:24:28,222 Yeah. We'll have to- 569 00:24:28,272 --> 00:24:30,152 How you're going to keep us at 125%. 570 00:24:31,032 --> 00:24:31,112 Right? 571 00:24:31,142 --> 00:24:31,892 By removing the 572 00:24:33,412 --> 00:24:36,232 designated reserve money, eliminating the projects. 573 00:24:36,592 --> 00:24:36,712 Right. 574 00:24:36,972 --> 00:24:38,612 They can be added on at the end of the fiscal year. 575 00:24:38,652 --> 00:24:38,872 Sure. 576 00:24:39,472 --> 00:24:40,212 But in the meantime, 577 00:24:41,232 --> 00:24:42,012 we need to show 578 00:24:43,112 --> 00:24:44,822 staying north of 125 and that- 579 00:24:44,872 --> 00:24:47,652 Well, that money, is it already moved on July 1? 580 00:24:48,372 --> 00:24:48,572 The 581 00:24:50,832 --> 00:24:53,912 parking lot project, I was going to call it the Tony project, but the parking lot 582 00:24:53,932 --> 00:24:56,392 project, are those funds already designated, 583 00:24:57,532 --> 00:24:59,702 or is that at end of the fiscal year that they become designated? 584 00:24:59,712 --> 00:25:02,462 They're designated- I think they're designated ... for the sake of our... 585 00:25:02,462 --> 00:25:06,372 For the general fund. They're designated as our 586 00:25:06,512 --> 00:25:10,412 fund. They're somewhere off in la-la land collecting interest wherever 587 00:25:10,452 --> 00:25:10,642 Jen has them. 588 00:25:10,642 --> 00:25:11,832 That's right. They've invested. 589 00:25:12,172 --> 00:25:12,992 Lots of interest. 590 00:25:13,672 --> 00:25:14,852 So can you bring us- 591 00:25:14,932 --> 00:25:17,472 That's my plan, by the way, is for Jen to just make more interest for us. 592 00:25:17,592 --> 00:25:18,872 That's what I'm talking about. 593 00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:22,702 Can you bring a good financial report to us that 594 00:25:24,052 --> 00:25:27,102 spells out our reserves, designated, undesignated? 595 00:25:27,552 --> 00:25:30,511 Because I know for years we thought we were putting things in certain designated 596 00:25:30,592 --> 00:25:33,382 areas, and we had just found out that that wasn't actually 597 00:25:33,452 --> 00:25:34,732 happening. 598 00:25:34,742 --> 00:25:34,742 Yes. 599 00:25:34,772 --> 00:25:38,592 Right? We were earmarking money in places, and they weren't actually getting marked 600 00:25:38,612 --> 00:25:38,732 that way. 601 00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:42,452 The parking lot is actually a perfect example because we had put $100,000 towards 602 00:25:42,512 --> 00:25:44,052 that parking lot in previous years. 603 00:25:44,242 --> 00:25:44,552 And it's- 604 00:25:44,572 --> 00:25:45,132 Or the previous year, 605 00:25:45,992 --> 00:25:47,692 and it wasn't showing up anywhere. 606 00:25:47,772 --> 00:25:48,822 Because we weren't actually- 607 00:25:49,112 --> 00:25:49,372 Doing it 608 00:25:49,691 --> 00:25:50,502 ... doing it correctly in the background. 609 00:25:50,512 --> 00:25:51,412 Now we're doing it, so yes. 610 00:25:51,452 --> 00:25:51,552 So. 611 00:25:51,872 --> 00:25:54,952 Even though last year I asked for an additional 100, that actually brings us up to 612 00:25:54,992 --> 00:25:58,252 3 because we found that 100 was there. 613 00:25:58,292 --> 00:26:00,152 We realized that we had already earmarked that- 614 00:26:00,232 --> 00:26:00,352 Yeah 615 00:26:00,412 --> 00:26:01,092 ... original 100- 616 00:26:01,252 --> 00:26:01,492 Yeah 617 00:26:01,512 --> 00:26:02,852 ... plus the 200 last year. 618 00:26:02,932 --> 00:26:03,032 Yeah. 619 00:26:03,132 --> 00:26:04,792 So we've got 300 right now sitting there. 620 00:26:04,852 --> 00:26:05,202 Yeah, that- 621 00:26:05,492 --> 00:26:05,782 That we marked 622 00:26:05,782 --> 00:26:06,952 ... document you have, Joanna- 623 00:26:06,972 --> 00:26:07,472 It just shows- 624 00:26:07,552 --> 00:26:08,412 It's not... 625 00:26:08,452 --> 00:26:11,031 So that's an old one, yeah. Oh, it is. Yeah. 626 00:26:11,072 --> 00:26:13,752 Next meeting, could you present this if you can? 627 00:26:14,952 --> 00:26:15,542 Yes, I will try to do that. 628 00:26:15,552 --> 00:26:16,132 With updated- 629 00:26:16,392 --> 00:26:16,462 Yeah. 630 00:26:16,552 --> 00:26:17,432 I don't know, between the two of you. 631 00:26:17,472 --> 00:26:18,532 It kind of comes out of your- 632 00:26:18,692 --> 00:26:19,292 Accountant? 633 00:26:19,352 --> 00:26:19,872 Your accounting. 634 00:26:21,592 --> 00:26:22,792 He can have accounting. 635 00:26:22,802 --> 00:26:23,382 But I look at your report, I look- 636 00:26:23,382 --> 00:26:23,592 No, I don't. 637 00:26:23,952 --> 00:26:25,282 I look at him because he's the- 638 00:26:25,352 --> 00:26:25,782 You are blessed 639 00:26:25,792 --> 00:26:28,532 ... he's the one that brings us the budget, and that's my apologies. 640 00:26:28,592 --> 00:26:29,722 I'm not trying to be disrespectful. 641 00:26:29,732 --> 00:26:30,792 We understand what you want. 642 00:26:31,122 --> 00:26:31,412 So 643 00:26:33,632 --> 00:26:35,092 the executive team- 644 00:26:35,132 --> 00:26:35,691 We locked his own payment out or...? 645 00:26:36,832 --> 00:26:36,842 Woo. 646 00:26:36,852 --> 00:26:37,792 Well, it's a good discussion. 647 00:26:37,932 --> 00:26:39,372 There we go. All right. Anything else on this? 648 00:26:41,372 --> 00:26:42,692 All in favor? Aye. 649 00:26:42,852 --> 00:26:43,002 Aye. 650 00:26:43,002 --> 00:26:43,952 Aye. Aye. Any opposed? 651 00:26:45,292 --> 00:26:45,472 Okay. 652 00:26:46,832 --> 00:26:47,572 Go ahead and pay MERS. 653 00:26:48,392 --> 00:26:49,632 Well, if you control, please. 654 00:26:50,792 --> 00:26:51,632 We'll talk later. 655 00:26:54,192 --> 00:26:57,392 And then the second one is just a contractor wanted to get paid. 656 00:26:57,432 --> 00:27:01,052 This is a budgeted item from the wall sign 657 00:27:01,132 --> 00:27:04,972 project down at the corner. Just a reminder, it's the township board 658 00:27:05,072 --> 00:27:08,212 funded, partially funded. The library, 659 00:27:08,872 --> 00:27:09,132 the 660 00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:14,432 Pinckney, Putnam, Hamburg, Kal, Chamber of Commerce, and then there's been some 661 00:27:14,832 --> 00:27:18,712 donations as well. So motion to approve the payment to Cody 662 00:27:18,772 --> 00:27:20,452 Ford for $6,000 663 00:27:21,452 --> 00:27:22,292 for masonry work. 664 00:27:23,692 --> 00:27:25,612 Will there be more coming after this wave soon? 665 00:27:26,912 --> 00:27:28,452 Invoices? Well, yeah, but- 666 00:27:29,092 --> 00:27:29,872 I'll second it for you. 667 00:27:30,052 --> 00:27:33,712 Yeah, we got to- Move by Dolan, second by Miller. We just discussed it today. 668 00:27:33,792 --> 00:27:34,122 We got to- 669 00:27:34,292 --> 00:27:34,382 Right 670 00:27:34,432 --> 00:27:36,152 ... we have to invoice the library and- 671 00:27:36,192 --> 00:27:36,352 Right 672 00:27:36,362 --> 00:27:36,992 ... the chamber to- 673 00:27:37,052 --> 00:27:37,372 Yes 674 00:27:37,392 --> 00:27:39,702 ... bring their money to us. Is he done 675 00:27:40,752 --> 00:27:44,472 with his work? He will be done in the next day, day and a 676 00:27:44,532 --> 00:27:46,902 half, so he doesn't get his check until he's done. Yeah. 677 00:27:46,932 --> 00:27:50,672 I know some of the pretty stuff went, a little section of that went. 678 00:27:50,692 --> 00:27:53,232 Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, he anticipates a day and a half. 679 00:27:53,252 --> 00:27:55,482 So you said the library's contributing to this? 680 00:27:55,482 --> 00:27:56,902 $5,000. Really? 681 00:27:57,052 --> 00:27:57,332 I don't remember- 682 00:27:57,352 --> 00:27:58,872 And how much is the chamber? 683 00:27:58,912 --> 00:27:58,922 ... hearing that. 684 00:27:58,952 --> 00:27:59,722 Yeah. That's nice. 685 00:27:59,852 --> 00:28:00,912 I mean, that's great, but- 686 00:28:01,652 --> 00:28:01,742 Yeah 687 00:28:01,772 --> 00:28:02,372 ... communication. 688 00:28:02,412 --> 00:28:03,032 So the 689 00:28:04,372 --> 00:28:08,112 design work was donated by Bruce Donovan, Donovan Construction. 690 00:28:08,632 --> 00:28:11,952 The engineer, he works closely with out of Novi. 691 00:28:12,872 --> 00:28:16,832 The design work was required to be stamped by an engineer for the Livingston 692 00:28:16,912 --> 00:28:20,712 County Building Department. That engineer donated his 693 00:28:21,192 --> 00:28:22,192 time and the stamp. 694 00:28:24,632 --> 00:28:28,512 5,000 from the library, 17,000 from the Chamber of Commerce. 695 00:28:29,472 --> 00:28:33,332 And then is the library funds and the chamber funds coming 696 00:28:33,412 --> 00:28:36,682 to us, or are they just going to pay for their sections percent? 697 00:28:36,682 --> 00:28:40,672 Well, I discussed it with the accounting team today, and the chamber was 698 00:28:40,752 --> 00:28:42,852 up for it. They were like, "We don't care how many checks- 699 00:28:42,872 --> 00:28:43,261 We've got a check 700 00:28:43,261 --> 00:28:43,771 ... we cut or whatever." 701 00:28:43,782 --> 00:28:43,891 So- 702 00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:44,951 But to- 703 00:28:45,152 --> 00:28:45,382 They'll take chaos 704 00:28:45,472 --> 00:28:49,182 ... keep the project all billed out under our books, 705 00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:52,552 we're going to send them invoices asking for their full. 706 00:28:52,612 --> 00:28:52,772 Okay. 707 00:28:52,812 --> 00:28:54,092 We'll make the project positive. 708 00:28:54,712 --> 00:28:56,552 So this is going to come out of the sign- 709 00:28:57,172 --> 00:28:57,432 Yes 710 00:28:57,442 --> 00:28:59,461 ... fund budget, and it's going to get funded by- 711 00:28:59,461 --> 00:29:02,452 We're going to get Michelle, we already created a general ledger account for the 712 00:29:02,492 --> 00:29:02,531 sign- 713 00:29:02,572 --> 00:29:02,952 Well, okay 714 00:29:03,112 --> 00:29:03,232 ... project. 715 00:29:03,382 --> 00:29:06,542 So what's the total amount, Guy? Do we know the total amount? 716 00:29:06,542 --> 00:29:07,662 The what? The total amount. 717 00:29:07,732 --> 00:29:08,212 The total amount. 718 00:29:08,222 --> 00:29:08,602 Was it 30- In here 719 00:29:08,602 --> 00:29:09,142 ... 35,000? 720 00:29:09,552 --> 00:29:12,392 I don't know. I presented a budget. We approved the budget. 721 00:29:12,452 --> 00:29:13,832 Whatever it is, it's still on budget. 722 00:29:13,952 --> 00:29:14,312 It's not- 723 00:29:14,712 --> 00:29:16,432 It was like 30 or 35,000 total. 724 00:29:16,442 --> 00:29:16,442 Yeah. 725 00:29:16,572 --> 00:29:17,072 Sounds about- 726 00:29:17,252 --> 00:29:18,412 Low 30s is what I remember. 727 00:29:18,602 --> 00:29:19,032 Yeah. So. 728 00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:22,992 So Mike, we're within budget? Yeah, it's not over budget. 729 00:29:23,072 --> 00:29:25,792 So far, every line item has come in on budget. 730 00:29:25,852 --> 00:29:29,282 Okay. So we're staying under budget, and we got additional funds that we weren't 731 00:29:29,312 --> 00:29:32,461 aware of when we approved this, so it's actually costing us less than we initially 732 00:29:32,572 --> 00:29:32,812 planned. 733 00:29:33,012 --> 00:29:34,472 I don't remember... The library wasn't- 734 00:29:34,832 --> 00:29:36,092 No, it wasn't part of our discussion. 735 00:29:36,172 --> 00:29:36,502 No. Mm-mm. 736 00:29:37,092 --> 00:29:38,192 So it's good stuff. 737 00:29:38,252 --> 00:29:38,492 Yeah. 738 00:29:38,532 --> 00:29:40,912 That's good news. More donations are welcome. 739 00:29:41,252 --> 00:29:41,992 Yeah. Yeah. 740 00:29:42,912 --> 00:29:43,372 Did we vote? 741 00:29:44,032 --> 00:29:44,312 Not yet. 742 00:29:44,452 --> 00:29:44,582 All right. 743 00:29:44,742 --> 00:29:45,472 Any further discussion? 744 00:29:45,832 --> 00:29:45,882 No. 745 00:29:47,392 --> 00:29:48,172 All in favor? 746 00:29:48,312 --> 00:29:48,582 Aye. Aye. 747 00:29:48,582 --> 00:29:48,582 Aye. 748 00:29:48,582 --> 00:29:48,992 Aye. Aye. 749 00:29:49,032 --> 00:29:49,512 Any opposed? 750 00:29:50,412 --> 00:29:50,552 Okay. 751 00:29:51,752 --> 00:29:52,232 Thank you. 752 00:29:54,092 --> 00:29:54,172 All right. 753 00:29:54,232 --> 00:29:57,872 I'll make a motion that we go into closed session to 754 00:29:57,992 --> 00:30:01,632 discuss two items, one being property acquisition, 755 00:30:02,232 --> 00:30:06,062 and the second one being police contract negotiations. I'll second. 756 00:30:06,072 --> 00:30:06,752 Because 757 00:30:08,872 --> 00:30:09,272 of their- 758 00:30:09,972 --> 00:30:10,412 Financial 759 00:30:10,432 --> 00:30:12,732 ... potential financial impact on the township, that it would be- 760 00:30:12,832 --> 00:30:13,362 Oh, that's a John- 761 00:30:13,452 --> 00:30:13,672 ... deleterious 762 00:30:13,852 --> 00:30:16,872 ... Brady at all thing. I don't buy into that, but go ahead. Okay, that's fine. 763 00:30:17,902 --> 00:30:20,992 Per MCL. Okay. All right. Moved by Dolan, seconded by Daniels. 764 00:30:21,392 --> 00:30:22,132 Roll call vote, please. 765 00:30:22,372 --> 00:30:22,552 Yes. 766 00:30:22,752 --> 00:30:23,192 Negri? 767 00:30:23,252 --> 00:30:23,472 Yes. 768 00:30:23,712 --> 00:30:25,892 Dolan, yes. Daniels? Yes. Hardesty? 769 00:30:25,952 --> 00:30:26,072 Yes. 770 00:30:26,212 --> 00:30:27,482 Hughes? Yes. Menzies? 771 00:30:27,632 --> 00:30:27,832 Yes. 772 00:30:27,872 --> 00:30:28,152 Miller? 773 00:30:28,332 --> 00:30:28,492 Yes. 774 00:30:28,652 --> 00:30:28,892 All right. 775 00:30:29,232 --> 00:30:32,992 We used to be called trustee or treasurer 776 00:30:33,192 --> 00:30:33,971 or supervisor. 777 00:30:34,052 --> 00:30:35,392 Yeah. No, now it's just last names. 778 00:30:36,202 --> 00:30:36,202 Well. 779 00:30:36,212 --> 00:30:38,112 So we're all equals at this table. 780 00:30:38,192 --> 00:30:40,412 I guess. Okay. Would you like my rationale? Yeah. 781 00:30:40,632 --> 00:30:40,852 Okay. 782 00:30:41,461 --> 00:30:43,052 No? There's rationale behind it. Yeah. What is it? 783 00:30:43,072 --> 00:30:43,352 Love it. 784 00:30:43,952 --> 00:30:45,612 So one, we-