1 00:06:09,650 --> 00:06:11,910 All right, we are going to get started here. 2 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:42,060 We have a full house today in recognition of major ms. We're going to get to that in seconds. But thank you all for being here. I know I want to say a raise here, because we're passing the budget today, but perhaps it's major ms. That is drawn the crowd. So we don't want to be delusional. So anyways, thank you all for being here. This is legislative meeting of the Hamilton County Board of County Commission. 3 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,660 It is December 18, 2025. 4 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,820 We start our meetings with silent prayer and the pledge of allegiance. 5 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:52,080 So please join us in silent prayer. 6 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,300 Foundation underground. 7 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Individual with liberty and justice. 8 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Let's view introductions from the days. 9 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Chris, the initial assistant clerk. 10 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Leslie, her reclurct to the board. 11 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:28,360 Stephanie, some are all doing this commissioner. 12 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,660 Hamilton County Commissioner, Alicia Reath. 13 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:32,340 Affleito County Administrator, 14 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Attric Dressing Assistant Prosecuting Attorney. 15 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,260 I'm County Commissioner Denise Dreehouse. 16 00:07:37,460 --> 00:07:40,460 All right, I'm going to make a motion that we approve the minutes of the previous session. 17 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Commissioner Dreehouse? 18 00:07:42,820 --> 00:07:43,880 Commissioner Summary Dremance? 19 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:44,220 Yes. 20 00:07:44,380 --> 00:07:45,040 Commissioner Reaves. 21 00:07:45,140 --> 00:07:45,380 Yes. 22 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,220 Thank you. 23 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:49,140 All right, next on our agenda is a presentation. 24 00:07:49,940 --> 00:07:53,040 This is a proclamation honoring major M's. 25 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Major M's, will you please come to the podium? 26 00:07:55,580 --> 00:07:59,460 So everyone can see you as we do this proclamation. 27 00:08:00,660 --> 00:08:04,840 I just want to say we'll read through all of the accolades here. 28 00:08:04,900 --> 00:08:08,500 In fact, why don't we do that first and then I'm sure all three of us will have comments 29 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:12,520 to add before we turn it over to you for some comments from yourself. 30 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,660 So this is a proclamation celebrating the retirement of Major Dan M's. 31 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Whereas Major Dan M's retired from his service at the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office on Friday, December 12, 2025. 32 00:08:26,660 --> 00:08:29,760 And whereas Major M's has dedicated his life 33 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:38,740 The public service joining the United States Marine Corps at 17 years old and serving for 12 years and whereas Major 34 00:08:38,740 --> 00:08:48,640 Ames joined the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office in January 1996 rising to the role of jail services sergeant in 1998 35 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:57,100 Lieutenant in 2008 in jail services major in 2021 and whereas as a lieutenant he was not only 36 00:08:57,100 --> 00:09:03,420 assigned to oversee the operations of a single area in the jail but was also assigned throughout 37 00:09:03,420 --> 00:09:10,280 the years as the intake OIC, Sheriff's Office Recruiter, Corrections Academy Commander, 38 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,140 and Operations Commander for the jail services division. 39 00:09:16,540 --> 00:09:23,460 Whereas, when Major Ames was appointed by Sheriff, Charmama Guffy as the jail services major 40 00:09:23,460 --> 00:09:31,180 in 2021, he oversaw the operation of the largest division in the Sheriff's office, managing 41 00:09:31,180 --> 00:09:40,040 over 400 uniformed and support staff, as well as ensuring that care, custody, and control 42 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:48,220 of over 1,000 inmates every day for the last five years, and whereas Major M's was also involved 43 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:54,020 in various local and state-level committees, such as the Hamilton County Addiction Response 44 00:09:54,020 --> 00:10:02,520 Coalition, where he shaped practice and policy on everything from Ohio jail standards to community 45 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:09,300 addiction response. And whereas the board of County Commissioners of Hamilton County, Ohio, 46 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:16,780 wishes to recognize Major Dan Ems for his decades of service and his lasting impact 47 00:10:16,780 --> 00:10:22,700 on the safety and will being of all within our county. Now, therefore, be a proclaimed 48 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:25,920 that the Board of County Commissioners of Hamilton County, Ohio, 49 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:32,420 this year by express its sincere appreciation and gratitude to Major Dan Ems for his 50 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:38,380 outstanding service to our community and extends best wishes for a happy, healthy and well-earned 51 00:10:38,380 --> 00:10:46,420 retirement and as hereby proclaim December 18th, 2025 as major Dan M's day in all of Hamilton 52 00:10:46,420 --> 00:10:46,980 County. 53 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:00,660 All right. 54 00:11:00,740 --> 00:11:05,300 Now we have a couple of comments and I just want to say, you know, you've got this distinguished 55 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:10,860 career that we've just heard about a long time career in public safety, but I got to know 56 00:11:10,860 --> 00:11:13,040 major M's for the addiction response coalition. 57 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,040 And we, I am the chair of the coalition and we have reorganized a couple of times over 58 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,900 the past and we have all these committees that are serving in different sectors, prevention, 59 00:11:24,380 --> 00:11:25,760 treatment, law enforcement, all the things. 60 00:11:26,420 --> 00:11:31,280 And so, major M's was an individual that was coming to the meetings and adding so much 61 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,300 to this conversation, trying to connect the dots for people in addiction and how we serve 62 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:40,880 those people and keep them from being in the jail, basically. 63 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:47,080 And major M's wasn't part of any of the steering committee subcommittees, and so we created 64 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:52,100 especially category called Friends of H-C-RQ because we definitely want to 65 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:55,340 major M's to be there in the room and continue to participate and so he is 66 00:11:55,340 --> 00:12:00,200 a friend of the coalition and is added so much to the work particularly for those 67 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:05,040 that are just as involved helping with recovery pods they're over in the 68 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:10,340 Justice Center very forward thinking we did get a state grant for that a number 69 00:12:10,340 --> 00:12:14,240 of years ago and now we've got individuals that are entering that pod on a 70 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:19,860 military bases, men and women, saying yes to recovery, and we've got them in that facility 71 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:23,440 and providing supports when they get out, so they don't come back to the facility. 72 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,940 Major M's was critical to that success, and I am so grateful for your partnership. 73 00:12:29,580 --> 00:12:31,000 Really, it wouldn't have happened without you. 74 00:12:31,260 --> 00:12:33,580 I do want to mention that sure, sure, I made my Guffy. 75 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:38,900 It wouldn't have happened without you either, but Major M was on the ground, so just 76 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:43,180 really do want to thank you for your heartfelt service to this community. 77 00:12:43,180 --> 00:12:49,180 you are sincerely dedicated to everybody in the community no matter where they come from and 78 00:12:49,180 --> 00:12:53,320 making sure that people have the supports to do their best and live their best life. So 79 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,760 really, really grateful for your service. Commissioner, some of them. Thank you for your service. 80 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:05,340 And I'm looking at all of the things that we've listed since 1996, but I think I'm not running 81 00:13:05,340 --> 00:13:10,340 to use several times, always so pleasant and professional. But I'm thinking about all the things that 82 00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:15,780 not on here. The impact that you've had, that we didn't even list, that we don't even know. 83 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,980 Maybe the sheriff doesn't even know, but just from your heart and you're giving. 84 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,760 There are many more things and more people that you've impacted. So I thank you for that. 85 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Thank you. 86 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Fisheries. 87 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,020 Major hands. 88 00:13:31,340 --> 00:13:38,260 I don't know. We need a new proclamation that declines retirement. All these great people leave in a sheriff. 89 00:13:38,260 --> 00:13:44,700 would go for you. I do let this happen. No, just kidding. But no, thank you for your service. You 90 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:54,180 ever had a very tough job. And going in there and being able to just really build from the bottom 91 00:13:54,180 --> 00:14:00,640 up. And when you build from the bottom up, you have a better understanding when you become in charge of it. 92 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:06,740 And I do want to thank Sheriff, what's up, you're recognizing that she had someone like yourself 93 00:14:06,740 --> 00:14:12,600 that could lead this effort and take us to a new height. 94 00:14:12,940 --> 00:14:14,720 But I just want to recognize that I know 95 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,220 it wasn't easy every day. 96 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,420 And we put you in a tough place. 97 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,400 You were up for the challenge and leaving it 98 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,520 in a lot better shape than probably when you found it. 99 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,960 So just want to say thank you again, enjoy your retirement, 100 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,800 but if you happen to change your mind on the way out, 101 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:39,720 We'll give we'll get Frank from HR and should have made McGoffy share of we love to keep you 102 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:48,180 But Merry Christmas happy new year and have a wonderful retirement. Thank you. I just wanted to say that when everyone came in in uniform 103 00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:53,520 I was looking for major ms and couldn't find him because he's already retired look at him 104 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,780 All right, this is all you and clothes. I'm like. Oh, no, it's already done it 105 00:14:57,780 --> 00:14:58,680 So anyway, thank you 106 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,480 So much for coming in. Thanks to all of you for being here in support. So we're going to turn it over to you. 107 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:12,000 Well, thank you, commissioners for this honor. Thanks, Chair. We'll go for you for having to face the confidence and me to put me in my position. 108 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:20,680 The men and women you see in uniform here with the ones behind me supported me every day, day in and day out. I couldn't have done it without them. 109 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,640 in this various trees, Laura, I couldn't have done it without them, they made my success. 110 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,840 And I do feel like I'm leaving the place in a better place than what I got it. 111 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:39,120 I'm looking forward to retirement, I don't know if my wife is, but I'm looking forward to it. 112 00:15:39,140 --> 00:15:40,800 And thank you for this honor, I appreciate it. 113 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,620 Thank you so much. 114 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:44,660 All right, we're going to come down and take a, we're going to go down, yeah. 115 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,720 We're going to go down and take a photo with yourself, and then we'd love to have the team 116 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:56,200 I'm getting the second photo and the walk is part of the team, right, to give me the first button. 117 00:16:33,890 --> 00:16:34,530 Let me take one. 118 00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:50,430 You want to come up? 119 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:16,720 One more. 120 00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:31,580 You want to go on the back? 121 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Probably. 122 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,500 I think I need to. 123 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,280 We're going to have our friends back here. 124 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:38,980 We get a bar. 125 00:17:38,980 --> 00:17:39,400 I'm gonna do 126 00:17:42,220 --> 00:17:43,920 it! 127 00:17:56,690 --> 00:17:56,690 Take 128 00:17:59,060 --> 00:18:01,280 care of your eyes. 129 00:18:01,460 --> 00:18:02,300 I'm gonna do it! 130 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,640 I'm gonna do it! 131 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:05,800 I'm gonna do it! 132 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,200 Oh we're 133 00:18:11,390 --> 00:18:11,830 gonna see it! 134 00:18:13,630 --> 00:18:14,790 You guys are gonna stand! 135 00:18:15,890 --> 00:18:15,930 It's good! 136 00:18:16,510 --> 00:18:18,090 All right, everybody! 137 00:18:18,090 --> 00:18:19,730 You know 138 00:18:31,470 --> 00:18:32,270 what I mean? 139 00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:41,400 That's fun! 140 00:18:42,740 --> 00:18:43,140 You 141 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:46,100 know what I mean? 142 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,300 We gotta step in on the blade. 143 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:49,680 Yeah? 144 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:50,580 All right, okay! 145 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:00,960 All right, everybody! 146 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,500 All that's pretty ready. 147 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:04,560 One, two, three. 148 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:16,410 Thank you. 149 00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:18,110 Thank you. 150 00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:19,690 One, two, three. 151 00:19:20,190 --> 00:19:20,570 Thank you. 152 00:19:21,390 --> 00:19:21,550 Thank you. 153 00:19:22,050 --> 00:19:22,530 Thank you. 154 00:19:23,890 --> 00:19:25,410 I'm just done. 155 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:26,710 I just got a message. 156 00:19:26,930 --> 00:19:27,870 I'm just going to be an official. 157 00:19:28,170 --> 00:19:29,170 It's a real service holiday. 158 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:31,350 Thank you. 159 00:19:34,910 --> 00:19:35,490 Thank you. 160 00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:35,730 You're welcome. 161 00:19:35,730 --> 00:19:36,150 And my gosh. 162 00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:37,710 I'm glad. 163 00:19:37,930 --> 00:19:38,410 Thank you. 164 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:42,880 Thank you. 165 00:19:46,130 --> 00:19:51,650 Gill, welcome to stay. We're going to be talking about the budget. On a wire of 166 00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:52,150 raise leaving, 167 00:19:58,230 --> 00:20:01,390 all right. I know, I know. It's so sad. 168 00:20:01,630 --> 00:20:09,470 Room is emptying out here. All right. The next item is public comments and I do 169 00:20:09,470 --> 00:20:15,650 have a few public comment cards. So we will take them next. Got a few folks in the room 170 00:20:15,650 --> 00:20:20,230 and then we've got one on Zoom. Larry Falcon, you're at the top of my list. 171 00:20:21,170 --> 00:20:22,690 We've got the pleasure of the floor for two minutes. 172 00:20:25,450 --> 00:20:25,570 Welcome. 173 00:20:27,780 --> 00:20:34,200 Thank you. Good morning commissioners. I'm here to ask you to direct MSD to start billing 174 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:42,840 for excessive runoff and to put it in the 2026 budget. We've spoken before about the reasons for 175 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,840 charging for excessive runoff. Two important facts have come to light since the budget 176 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:54,040 hearings two weeks ago that I want to share with you. First during those budget hearings 177 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,200 director Christie told you that stormwater discharge is pay for stormwater as part of 178 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:05,880 their sewer bills, she said nobody gets a free ride. It turns out that's not true. 179 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:15,060 An MSD report identified 49,000 properties that generates stormwater and have no water 180 00:21:15,060 --> 00:21:22,220 meter. And you know, if they have no water meter, there's no sewer bill, 49,000 properties, 181 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:30,640 generating storm water that have no sewer bill. Second, some of the free loaders are 182 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:38,420 really big. I give you the example of CSX Corporation. 23 parcels with more than two acres 183 00:21:38,420 --> 00:21:45,060 each of impervious surface have as they registered address CSX headquarters in Florida. 184 00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:52,640 They total more than 170 acres of pavement, if they were build for the runoff from those properties, 185 00:21:53,340 --> 00:21:58,580 it would come to more than a million and a half dollars a year, and they are not build for 186 00:21:58,580 --> 00:22:06,420 any of that stormwater runoff. Why am I subsidizing CSX? And all the other big landowners 187 00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:14,320 like CSX. So county commissioners, please direct MSD to start billing for excessive runoff. 188 00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:21,880 Put that revenue in the 2026 budget. I see that there is a by-leave item on your agenda today 189 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:30,220 to address this issue and I appreciate that. I wish it moved us further and faster. Got us to actual 190 00:22:30,220 --> 00:22:35,340 revenue and I appreciate it being on your by-leave agenda. Thank you. Yeah, I was going to note that by 191 00:22:35,340 --> 00:22:38,980 I believe number one does directly address this, but thank you for your comments. 192 00:22:39,380 --> 00:22:42,980 Appreciate it. Our next speaker is Bishop Sunny James. 193 00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:44,860 Welcome. 194 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,480 Thank you. Good morning. 195 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:50,600 I didn't come to preach today. 196 00:22:51,580 --> 00:22:52,240 Time doesn't go. 197 00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:53,960 The pleasure of the floor for two minutes. 198 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,120 Hope all of Northwood is watching. 199 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,520 I wanted to come today to first celebrate 200 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:11,300 with all of you administrators. I'm celebrating in advance simply because as our 201 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:16,020 public defenders office has submitted a proposal to you all I certainly 202 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:19,620 understand that there are certain restraints that we have to consider and 203 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,220 giving the budget. But I came to celebrate today as I'm so used to 204 00:23:24,220 --> 00:23:29,660 speaking that thing is the would work. It's just how I live. But I want to make 205 00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:39,220 sure that as we clamp down on all of our final decisions, that we do so understand that, 206 00:23:39,220 --> 00:23:42,180 you know, folks might say, we're bishop this evening to church, but I want to step a 207 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:48,680 little further and remind us, we are the church, and we are responsible for every decision 208 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:55,360 that we make. And looking at the needs, I understand by cutting some things, it opens the door 209 00:23:55,360 --> 00:24:00,140 for others. But what we don't want to do is we don't want to cut some things that would 210 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:07,000 actually cause us to spend more money statewide on the other end. So again, I just came 211 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:14,720 to say, hello, I just came to say, I trust you, but I also came to remind you that we as 212 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:22,240 people of faith have a stronger commitment to the people and to God. And I trust that that 213 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,200 budget for the public defender's office will go through simply because there are multiple 214 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,160 layers and we never want to reinvent the wheel. 215 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,320 If it's not broken, let's not try to fix it. 216 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:37,880 So I stand with you in all confidence knowing that we all do this work together. 217 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:38,560 Amen. 218 00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:41,720 And then I want to just announce to everybody, come together. 219 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:45,120 2.0 has been rescheduled because I messed up on the invites. 220 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,700 God bless you all and happy holidays to you all. 221 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,520 That's my minute. 222 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,240 Thank you. 223 00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:50,560 Happy holidays to you. 224 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,920 Our next speaker is Dean Nightingale. 225 00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:58,770 Good morning. 226 00:25:00,590 --> 00:25:07,110 Dean Nightingale, Sierra Club, Kufa, communities United for Action, and I support just what Larry just said. 227 00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:08,530 It's a really important finding. 228 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:14,470 I'm here today to urge County Commissioners to adopt a purpose-surface fee for the Metropolitan Sewer District. 229 00:25:15,150 --> 00:25:24,830 This was incentivized all landowners, including schools, churches, residents, and businesses, to adopt a more efficient, best managed practice and save our city and money in the long run. 230 00:25:24,830 --> 00:25:34,430 Building such incentives into the right structure would effectively invite the whole community to become active and part of the solution to Cincinnati sewer problems. 231 00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:43,090 If more of us showcase green infrastructure projects on their properties, and we could together create a more resilient city for the future. 232 00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:53,930 Our Cincinnati Zoo offers a perfect zero-waste model of managing stormwater by capturing, storing, and reusing rainwater in their systems and rain gardens. 233 00:25:55,170 --> 00:25:59,210 Slows run off into the city, reduces water bills, wind, wind. 234 00:25:59,970 --> 00:26:11,930 Schools like Robert's Academy, Clark Monosori, Hartwell, and UC have all been installing bioswales, beautifying their campuses, educating the community and saving the city money. 235 00:26:12,570 --> 00:26:19,150 The Fairview German School in Clifton is now partnering with a neighboring church to install a bioswale, 236 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:25,550 where they see an environmental justice issue here, as well as keeping the reins from flooding their shared parking lots. 237 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:29,550 If more of us did this, we could pretty much solve the problem. 238 00:26:30,270 --> 00:26:39,910 A more equitable fee structure would offer the city a win-win solution, offering financial incentives to implement these win-win projects with help. 239 00:26:39,910 --> 00:26:46,550 Thank you. Thank you very much. Our last speaker is on Zoom. I believe it's Marie Kakoshis. 240 00:26:48,130 --> 00:26:49,310 Marie, are you with us? 241 00:26:53,020 --> 00:26:57,560 On mute. Yes, good morning. This is my husband's laptop. My name is Marie Kakoshis. 242 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:05,720 I am a member of the Miami group of this year club. I am here today to talk about the MSD budget. 243 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:11,880 We know that MSD has a storm water problem. 244 00:27:12,620 --> 00:27:16,300 The storm water causes havoc with our combined sewer system. 245 00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:23,940 We are proposing and supporting a storm water fee, which will help the problem. 246 00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:27,840 Help solve the problem in addition to the items that G9 and Gil has mentioned. 247 00:27:28,420 --> 00:27:32,920 We think that a storm water fee will overdo. 248 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:40,900 do. We also believe that the fee will not go into place unless it's in the budget. So I 249 00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:47,600 ask you to put it in the MSC budget today and move forward to relieve our system of these 250 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,720 huge stormwater impacts. Thank you very much. Thank you, Marie. All right, that's all the speakers, 251 00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:59,040 cards I have for today. So we'll move on to comments and motions of the commission's commissioner, 252 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,700 Thank you so much. 253 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,260 Should I say my budget comments until we get to the budget would you prefer? 254 00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:11,180 Think that makes sense. 255 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:11,580 All right. 256 00:28:12,380 --> 00:28:18,220 So I participated in our 911 EMA, new brand new building out in Springdale. 257 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,960 It's been years and years in the plan and it's absolutely beautiful. 258 00:28:22,420 --> 00:28:26,380 It was all over the news about accessibility for each department. 259 00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:29,860 and how it's going to really make their services more efficient. 260 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,560 So it was glad to see that happen. 261 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,280 Also, participate in an executive session with visits 262 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,820 and see there are some changes that are coming out of there. 263 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,100 And I am on their board and looking forward 264 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:46,720 to the future for visits, since I also participated 265 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:52,560 in interviews for a new JFS director, as we move forward 266 00:28:52,560 --> 00:29:01,300 and look at how we want to, I guess, the vision to fulfill the vision that the commission has 267 00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:07,020 had. And also the direction that job and family services is taken as a good one. And we want 268 00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:14,340 to continue that progress. And other than that, that's about it, Kim's in, so I didn't get my 269 00:29:14,340 --> 00:29:20,220 report today, but I remember those things. And so, well, I want to say that I've been looking at 270 00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:26,080 budget just as we all have just I think Jeff is a little I don't I 271 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,400 want to use a little tired of me but I think outside of the box a little and I 272 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,120 research a lot and I'm very detailed and you know just question after question 273 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,500 which is my responsibility self I'll talk about the staff a little later thank you 274 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:47,160 Commissioner Reese yes thank you and I will reserve my comments when we get to 275 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:54,560 budget most of the things that we've been focused on is the budget and so did a lot of that obviously 276 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,700 these last few weeks. One that's also say that 277 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:12,740 The ribbon cutting at the 911 EMA was amazing. It was good news. Certainly, we look at combining services, 278 00:30:13,180 --> 00:30:19,720 state-of-the-art technology, which we have to have if we're going to be safe. And it's just a huge 279 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:27,860 move. I think they were saying that we haven't had a new building in decades. So for our 280 00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:37,920 to be able to partner and have 911 EMA ribbon cutting that we had and now have a new joint facility out in Springdale. 281 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,980 It was great when I was like everyone that had a hand in that of course Andy and Nick, 282 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,540 but all of the architects, all of the people that worked on the project, you know, everything, 283 00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:54,380 it just really looked very good, but more importantly for the workers that are out there. 284 00:30:54,380 --> 00:30:59,500 have a very tough job. They're on the front lines many times the first person that you're here 285 00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:07,940 from all the coordination that's done in our county and in our region to keep our county safe from a 286 00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:13,400 lot of these disasters and different things that are happening. So that was a huge, huge deal. 287 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:22,260 And so it was happy to see it go from a concept to actual reality. So I want to thank all of them 288 00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:31,680 and thank the administrator, Ludo, and his staff, and getting this done. This is a huge, huge improvement. 289 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:40,280 So was this happy to be a part of that and certainly several elected officials because this is regional. 290 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:49,120 But of course we were in, we were in Mayor Hawkins backyard and of course he said he says lots of 291 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,300 other things that's available, but it was just great to do that and be out there. 292 00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:07,140 The other thing, the met with regarding the 2026, 513 relief bus and certainly looking 293 00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:14,600 to expand partnerships and more help is our mobile services and it's been doing a phenomenal 294 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,440 job. 295 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:24,400 They would have pivot when snap benefits were cut and I would have to say they're still are cut because they're not all the way 296 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,760 Put back whole but when they were 297 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:38,320 Almost eliminated the bus was able to partner with a number of church pantries and freeze through a food bank and was able to pivot and so just it's helped so many people 298 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,880 So I'm excited about 299 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,000 Expanding we are very 300 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:50,520 I think unique in having an asset like this with results of helping and providing services 301 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,500 of 30,000. 302 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:58,260 I think that's a huge thing in these days and times, no co-pay, which I'm about to rise 303 00:32:58,260 --> 00:32:59,420 in medical costs. 304 00:32:59,820 --> 00:33:06,040 We want that bus, there's no co-pay, big savings, life savings, and financial savings. 305 00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:13,860 people have gotten jobs and been on that bus. People have had their lives say cancer 306 00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:21,380 screenings from that bus. So many things back to school, going on there and getting 307 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:27,540 is the coolest parents can't afford it on that bus. So there's just happy to hear 308 00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:33,980 about it and we're going to do a much better job and being able to track all of the 309 00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:40,540 because we've been under reporting and I'm looking forward to a new system that will be able to capture 310 00:33:40,540 --> 00:33:48,000 the real stories, the financial benefits, and the cost savings to the taxpayers around Hamilton County. 311 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:56,200 Those were some of the things. We also participated in looking into the next JFS director 312 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,440 and we look forward to having that announcement soon. One of the things I've always said, 313 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,560 We want to move from a welfare concept to a customer service-based concept. 314 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,740 Look forward to that. 315 00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:10,640 The next director will have a lot of challenges. 316 00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:13,900 We'll have to hit the job running quickly. 317 00:34:14,660 --> 00:34:18,900 And so I'm looking forward to the next chapter with that. 318 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,980 We probably will be talking about the budget. 319 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,260 So I want to say this to everybody out there. 320 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,160 I want to wish everybody a happy holiday season. 321 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:34,340 be hopefully be able to enjoy it with their families and certainly look forward to a 322 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,980 prosperous new year but I know it will be challenging but a prosperous new year and then 323 00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:47,860 I want to personally thank my staff, I had a medical challenge and I want to thank 324 00:34:47,860 --> 00:34:54,680 Beta Stevens and my office, my chief of staff that kept it going so as it has been great 325 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,100 with the training because he knows what to do. 326 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,360 And he's been in all of these negotiations as well. 327 00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:04,380 But on top of that, I've been unable to drive 328 00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:05,900 and do all the other kind of things. 329 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,560 So we've been able to communicate. 330 00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:09,020 And I just want to thank him. 331 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:12,060 And I want to thank Jackie Taggart Boyd also 332 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,740 from my office for keeping this thing moving. 333 00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:16,240 We haven't missed a beat. 334 00:35:16,820 --> 00:35:19,600 And we've been able to continue to represent the people. 335 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,960 But I definitely appreciate that. 336 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,320 And then last but not least, if you've lost a loved one, 337 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:30,440 This is a grieving time for a lot of people during this time and mental health is important to us. 338 00:35:30,460 --> 00:35:36,420 Check on your friends, your family, because this is a tough time when you go through these times. 339 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,340 And some people have lost loved ones. 340 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,640 And some of the people you think are the strongest who help everyone else. 341 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,600 They may need some help. 342 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:47,680 So please check in on them and pray for those. 343 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,920 We have people that's outside that's homeless. 344 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,780 And we're working every day to try to get them inside where they can have a home. 345 00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:56,500 So that's what I have. 346 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:04,640 I just want to say just being thankful for the opportunity to serve and being thankful to 347 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,340 represent Hamilton County citizens. 348 00:36:06,580 --> 00:36:07,740 Thank you. 349 00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:08,580 Thank you. 350 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:15,480 I too want to start with the 911 EMA building consolidation up in Springdale. 351 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,140 It was a wonderful event. 352 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:23,120 The facility is so much better than either EMA or 9-1 have had in the past. 353 00:36:23,860 --> 00:36:28,460 We are asking people to do very difficult things, particularly at 9-1-1 when they're answering 354 00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:33,400 the phone on people's worst day and the old building, I know all three of us have been there. 355 00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:41,940 Dark, close, no room to decompress after a difficult call and so we wanted to provide better 356 00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:46,120 situation there for those employees and help us recruit because we really have had a 357 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,700 difficult time keeping people in some ways because of the environment in which they 358 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:55,860 had to work. So very excited about that, the consolidation of EMA and 911 together, it 359 00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:59,940 has a lot of synergies and so it made all the sense in the world to do that consolidation. 360 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,760 So it was excited to join my colleagues and others at that ribbon cutting thanks to Nick 361 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:12,160 and Mayor Hawkins up in Springdale for welcoming us and taking us on tours through the building. 362 00:37:12,460 --> 00:37:14,700 It was a really a celebratory event. 363 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,120 I also participated in the kindness for kids. 364 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:25,960 So kindness for kids is something that JFS, job and family services here at the county has stood up to provide gifts for kids during the holidays. 365 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,660 These are kids that are in foster care. 366 00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:31,160 And so this program has stood up every year. 367 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,400 I know John Nelson is here. 368 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,860 Thank you for your participation in helping do this, John. 369 00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:39,880 So we have this QR code that you can scan, 370 00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:42,580 and I'm going to encourage everybody in the room to do it. 371 00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:47,320 Go to JFS as website, scan the code for kindness for kids. 372 00:37:47,540 --> 00:37:51,400 Takes you right to Amazon and you can donate some gifts 373 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,360 for some of the kids that are in care. 374 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:55,360 So at the Bangle's game on Sunday, 375 00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:57,760 we ask people to come by and drop off gifts 376 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,320 as they were going to the game or scan the code 377 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,300 and do it later on when they were a little bit warmer. 378 00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:06,140 It was very cold on Sunday. 379 00:38:07,060 --> 00:38:11,220 And so I want to thank those that we collected over 400 gifts 380 00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:11,780 for kids. 381 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,760 So that's in a lot of people scan the code. 382 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,760 It's so hopefully donated after. 383 00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:17,280 Nobody wanted to take their gloves off 384 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,420 and I get it, right? 385 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,360 But they did, they did it. 386 00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:24,580 But thanks to Brigid D'Arty, Amanda Quinn, Jeff was out there. 387 00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:27,620 So we could only last for about an hour. 388 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,900 So it was really cold. 389 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,500 But anyway, thank you for that. 390 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:35,520 there's still an opportunity to give is my point. So please go to JFS website if you'd like to donate 391 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:42,420 a football or a paint set or some slippers to one of the kids in our foster care system. 392 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,040 I too wanted to say Happy Holidays to everyone. This is the last time we will be together this year, 393 00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:53,300 a presuming that we passed the budget, which I am presuming that we're going to pass the budget. 394 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,820 And so Happy Holidays to staff, it's been a challenging year, a good year, but a challenging year when it comes to the finances 395 00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:05,940 and so I wanted to thank everybody for their service to the county through all of our departments 396 00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:11,860 and thank especially the budget staff, Rob is in the room. So thank you for your service to the county. 397 00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:18,260 Very grateful for that. So with that, Jeff, I'm going to turn it over to you. I know there are many 398 00:39:18,260 --> 00:39:24,920 I leave items so why don't we run through those and then we will move into the conversation regarding the budget. 399 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:49,660 Thanks Commissioner. I'll get the by leaves and just as I can just a couple of quick comments. I do just want to double down on what all three of you indicated about the news with the 911 Center 911 EMA Center and it could be very upset if I've done on behalf of the board and the residents of this county I just wanted to and my comments this year thanking them for all of their of their work. 400 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:57,660 And as you indicated, Commissioner, we do have a substantive by leave list today, which I will get into. 401 00:39:58,780 --> 00:40:01,180 The first item, actually, I'm going to defer it to Holly. 402 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:07,580 For the actually the first two items, we're going to walk us through an MSD item and then a property disposition item as well. 403 00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:08,140 So Holly. 404 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:08,860 Good morning, Gordon. 405 00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:10,020 Thank you. 406 00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:19,100 Finally, one is a resolution directing the Metropolitan Sewer District to further evaluate and develop its proposed program to recover costs for excess, 407 00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:23,260 wet weather flow in the combined sewer area. You've heard public comments on this earlier. 408 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:29,080 This program concept was shared with the board in July in which MSD would evaluate 409 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:35,120 billing properties with large amounts of impervious area and wet weather flow impacting MSD sewer 410 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:41,080 system. This will also potentially create opportunities for collaboration with property owners and 411 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,320 MSD on solutions to reduce the amount of wet weather flow entering the system. 412 00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:51,000 This program is an outcome and alternate to the impervious surface task force that the board 413 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:57,300 set up several years ago and I really want to applaud MSD for their efforts to find alternatives 414 00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,560 that still help meet the intent of the issue. 415 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,700 I want to be clear, this resolution, though, does not constitute board approval for the program. 416 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:13,400 It only directs MSD to come back with a plan for board review, no later than the end of the first quarter of 2026. 417 00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:18,000 And MSD is here if there are specific programs, questions on this program. 418 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,160 Thank you. 419 00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:23,420 I'm wondering if we should rule through all of these. 420 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,120 We're all through all of them. 421 00:41:24,580 --> 00:41:24,660 Okay. 422 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:24,860 Yeah. 423 00:41:26,180 --> 00:41:26,200 Okay. 424 00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:27,180 Thank you so much. 425 00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:27,620 Sure. 426 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:37,360 By the way, two is a resolution declaring certain property no longer needed, and authorizes the Community Improvement Corporation of Greater Cincinnati to act as agent to sell the property. 427 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,400 This property is the southern portion of 355 Hunt Road. 428 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,700 It's the portion south of Ronald Reagan Highway and consists of roughly 15 acres. 429 00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:49,600 So I'm happy to answer any questions. 430 00:41:49,820 --> 00:41:49,920 Thank you. 431 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,680 I think we've got an information on that one too. 432 00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:53,040 So thank you for that. 433 00:41:53,780 --> 00:41:54,260 Let's thank you. 434 00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:57,180 Commissioner's please interrupt a few of questions. 435 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,360 Thank you. 436 00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:03,980 Commissioners by leave number three is resolution number 27 adopting a cybersecurity program. 437 00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:09,380 I was going to ask John, if John is thought John would say, oh, there he is. 438 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,520 Harry. 439 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:17,940 Normally John comes in from the hallway here, so that threw me off a little bit. 440 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,960 So I expected there could be more response to Holly's proceed. 441 00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:24,060 She was very thorough. 442 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:33,020 The cyber security program, this was actually required under Hustle 96 this fall by the state 443 00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:35,600 and it requires all jurisdictions, 444 00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:38,120 counties, cities, everybody really 445 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,020 to have a program in place that just secures 446 00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:43,380 our technology environment. 447 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,500 And what's wonderful about this is 448 00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:46,680 it's a very collaborative effort. 449 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:49,180 So our director of technical services 450 00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:52,880 has worked with the IT staff across every department 451 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,500 in the county that come up with a plan that's 452 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,900 based on national standards for cybersecurity. 453 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,000 And we're glad to present that to you today. 454 00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:01,140 OK, very good. 455 00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:08,640 Thank you, commissioners. Item number four, I'll take the ones that get substance 456 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:14,760 will easier here. Item number four is authorizing the use of credit cards for the use of 457 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:21,900 the Veteran Services Commission, the amount of $88,500. Item number five actually is a 458 00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:28,660 more substance of item that the board acted on portions of this project last week, but this is a 459 00:43:28,660 --> 00:43:34,960 resolution authorizing agreement with alpha video and the board for the remainder of the 460 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:41,780 pay course to idiom jungle vision upgrade project. This is in the amount of 19.5 million. 461 00:43:42,380 --> 00:43:49,500 As the board is aware, folks are watching at home, jungle vision is the system which is the 462 00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:55,980 nerve center, if you will, of all of the audio visual interactions that occur down at the stadium. 463 00:43:55,980 --> 00:44:01,580 So, this is for any event, not just football, but for any event that occurs that would take 464 00:44:01,580 --> 00:44:06,240 would make use of audio visual at this public asset. 465 00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:11,900 The jungle vision system is the nerve center of that, and it's at the end of its life 466 00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:13,000 needs to be replaced. 467 00:44:13,740 --> 00:44:19,640 Last week, the board passed a resolution approving agreements for the electric work and for 468 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,560 the general construction portion of the project. 469 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:28,280 today we have this agreement for the remainder and the video mainly the video portion of this 470 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,620 project. It's in the total of, as I said, 19.5 million. The good news is it is approximately 471 00:44:33,620 --> 00:44:41,160 one million dollars under under budget. So that is the jungle vision project commissioner. 472 00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:50,720 Commissioners item by leave six is budget adjustment number 55. This is for the general fund. 473 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:56,960 This is the sheriff in the amount of 1.2 million this is mainly for over time holiday pay 474 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,680 There are also some small wreck 475 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,900 Congratulations there from the share of and probation, some recommendations and transfers to close-out grants effectively. 476 00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:16,520 Commissioners, I did have a question about this when I just want to raise it. Do you see that there is for the share of its one cent? There's a reconciliation for one penny. 477 00:45:17,580 --> 00:45:27,460 I just want to say what doing a good job here. No. I was like, whoa, and I thought it was a misprint and the 15.26 isn't 15.26 million. It's $15.26. 478 00:45:27,460 --> 00:45:33,560 sense. So good job budget staff for reconciling to the penny, literally to the penny. 479 00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:34,660 That's right. Good. 480 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,400 They are definitely accurate. Yes. 481 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,680 Commissioners, item seven and eight are appointments. I didn't know. 482 00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:45,000 I wanted to be sure. 483 00:45:45,740 --> 00:45:47,240 So by leaving number seven is resolution, 484 00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:50,380 appointing members to the Community Development Advisory Committee, 485 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,040 the Laura's Peterson and William Basel. 486 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,140 And then number eight is a resolution, 487 00:45:55,140 --> 00:46:01,160 appointing a member to the economic and community support advisory council, rely a picket. 488 00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:05,200 So those two are the advisory committee appointments. 489 00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:12,520 Thank you, Commissioner. Item by leave nine is a budget adjustment. This is 15.7 490 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:18,780 million for capital projects and grant balance close out. So a lot of this is the closing out 491 00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:24,640 of capital projects returning to remaining funds to their fund of origin. There are a couple 492 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:31,220 of projects in here that are appropriating dollars for new projects or ongoing projects. 493 00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:39,200 There's funding in there for the build-out of the facility where we do commitment hearings 494 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,260 for appropriate court out at Summit Behavioral Health, that's a project that's in cooperation 495 00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:52,420 with the state. There's funding for a permanent for the permit automation facility redesign 496 00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:57,240 up in planning and development, now that they're going with virtual electronic permitting, 497 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,600 they've needed to do some workflow redesigns in their offices, and there are also some 498 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,880 revisions to the Central Campus project as well, included in that budget adjustment. 499 00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:13,500 By leave 10 commissioners is a resolution authorizing the acceptance of donations for the 500 00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:20,460 prosecuting attorney's victim support program. This is actually for the donation of a therapy dog 501 00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:27,120 in the prosecutor's office that's being donated so we need to pass a resolution in order to accept that donation. 502 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,880 I'm going to commissioners if you don't mind, hold by by leave 11. 503 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:39,180 That actually relates directly to the passage of the 2026 budget. 504 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:45,320 So I think it would be appropriate just to lump that item in with that discussion, which we'll have momentarily. 505 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:58,420 And finally, Commissioner's resolution by the 12th, this resolution number 30, this comes at the request of the courts related to the increase of jurors paid to $30 per day from $19 a day. 506 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:05,120 I believe this was discussed in the courts' presentation to the board during their budget presentation. 507 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,220 Happy to answer any questions, Commissioner. 508 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,020 Thank you very much. 509 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,760 So, are there any questions related to the by-lays? 510 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:18,180 I have a call, I believe one, I just wanted to indicate what MSD and the plan that's coming forward 511 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:20,780 that is really happy about that. 512 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:26,700 I'm getting started and also that there's a time when the draft plan should happen. 513 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:35,100 And also, I believe three, I think John talked about it, the cyber security program, I don't know, 514 00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:39,520 because AI included in our cyber security program. 515 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:40,820 Because I ended 516 00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:44,090 up, okay. 517 00:48:49,830 --> 00:48:51,170 We may be getting out of my depth. 518 00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:59,910 I'm going to throw this out if our IT director is on the line. 519 00:49:00,030 --> 00:49:03,270 I believe Chris Walsh may be on the line and may want to chip in here. 520 00:49:03,470 --> 00:49:05,910 I don't know that AI is specifically referenced in it, 521 00:49:05,970 --> 00:49:09,470 but I'm sure that the general security premises 522 00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:15,510 premises extend to that, but I think Chris may be on the line and may want to say more. 523 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:26,840 Good morning, commissioners. Chris Wallace here. And John is correct that AI is not called 524 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:32,200 out specifically in the program in and of itself. However, it is covered with the national standards 525 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,460 that we've adopted through this cybersecurity program. 526 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:41,170 Okay, thank you. I want to get certified in this 527 00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:49,390 And I have mentioned that we need Christmas policies and procedures as it relates to internally how we can use it, what it can be used for. 528 00:49:49,530 --> 00:49:57,170 So I would just suggest that we kind of upgrade what we're doing our policy internally that would be great. 529 00:49:57,230 --> 00:49:58,790 I think for the county. 530 00:50:01,450 --> 00:50:02,270 Do you agree? 531 00:50:06,110 --> 00:50:14,490 I think we do this program is really specifically around security and where there are vulnerabilities. 532 00:50:14,490 --> 00:50:22,790 where as I think what we probably will be looking at and what each office will be looking at more individually is how do they effectively use AI. 533 00:50:23,550 --> 00:50:25,910 That's really separate from a security program. 534 00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:32,930 And Commissioner Appalda, as I lost the ability to speak there for a minute. 535 00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:38,990 We've actually have some processes we're starting. 536 00:50:38,990 --> 00:50:47,990 that it's very much in the infancy, but working with Deputy Commissioner Anson where we've started 537 00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:52,450 in AI committee when we're starting to do just as John described, we're looking at how this 538 00:50:52,450 --> 00:50:58,210 can be used in the business and the various businesses offices and then we're looking at what 539 00:50:58,210 --> 00:51:03,310 policies and procedures that we need to put in place. So effectively put guardrails on it, right? 540 00:51:03,470 --> 00:51:08,870 We don't want to have data expiltration or inappropriate use of those tools. So that is in 541 00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:15,350 process. Although it's not called out specifically. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. That's all I have. Thank you. Commissioner risk. 542 00:51:17,410 --> 00:51:26,490 Yes. Thank you. On item number by leave number five. I'd like to have that voted on separately. 543 00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:39,510 And I believe that's still in with the video and audio jungle vision. So I do have more questions. 544 00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:45,630 can't get answered today so I'd like to have that separately done. I know that there was 545 00:51:45,630 --> 00:51:56,430 some issues outside of that as it related to attendees, spans, ethygames and the seats 546 00:51:56,430 --> 00:52:03,530 not being cleared and I know that my colleague, Mr. Lewis I'd read she had also expressed concerns. 547 00:52:03,530 --> 00:52:13,210 We can't do this one-sided thing when it comes to something for the fans or the attendees 548 00:52:13,210 --> 00:52:20,870 or comes to the taxpayers, they're fixing to be fallen last in this thing. 549 00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:32,570 And we've had this pattern of behavior, and for me I just can't keep funding stuff on our side. 550 00:52:32,570 --> 00:52:38,070 And then on the side, when it's so well, we couldn't clean off the seats, I mean the weather 551 00:52:38,070 --> 00:52:42,330 man told us we knew when it was going to start and stop, or they could have caught Nick 552 00:52:42,330 --> 00:52:42,910 Crossley. 553 00:52:43,150 --> 00:52:49,390 He has all the information, and it's just, we just can't keep just turning a blind eye to 554 00:52:49,390 --> 00:52:50,370 this stuff. 555 00:52:51,230 --> 00:52:57,130 At the same time, I remember, you know, there was fans, I said, hey, why don't we have a free 556 00:52:57,130 --> 00:52:59,630 watch party brought it forward. 557 00:53:00,090 --> 00:53:02,910 They went head over heels to say it couldn't be done. 558 00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:06,950 And only to come back a year or two after it was done. 559 00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:08,430 And it was done everywhere else. 560 00:53:08,590 --> 00:53:10,110 Detroit did it, everyone did it. 561 00:53:10,110 --> 00:53:11,350 Then it came back and figured out, 562 00:53:11,390 --> 00:53:14,510 oh, we can charge people 99, 99 dollars. 563 00:53:14,830 --> 00:53:15,850 Now it can be done. 564 00:53:16,450 --> 00:53:20,230 So we've just got a, we just can't turn a blind eye. 565 00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:23,350 And if we're going into a 11 year deal, 566 00:53:23,830 --> 00:53:26,790 I don't know why we have to pay a lot of stuff all up front. 567 00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:34,650 it fits over 11 year period. So the season is over. So we won't be needing a jungle vision this week 568 00:53:35,550 --> 00:53:41,250 or I'm going to need it after the playoffs, we won't be going in the playoffs. So I just think we just 569 00:53:41,250 --> 00:53:45,710 could have had a little more time and I like to know a little bit more of what's going to be available 570 00:53:46,250 --> 00:53:51,730 for even other, hopefully other events that are coming. But we can't get those answers today. So I just 571 00:53:51,730 --> 00:54:00,990 to pull this out and hold into, I can get some more information on it. So I have that one. 572 00:54:01,390 --> 00:54:07,490 The other one, I do want to just thank the people who are serving on these boards. 573 00:54:07,810 --> 00:54:15,970 Thank them for stepping up and serving on the board. And yeah, I'm interested to the cybersecurity 574 00:54:15,970 --> 00:54:24,010 security program is very important. Of course, going to have to be evolving as new technology 575 00:54:24,010 --> 00:54:32,830 continues to be continued, we continue to look at that. And then also, I think item 576 00:54:32,830 --> 00:54:40,690 number one, the resolution or the rise in MSD to proceed with further evaluation, I think, 577 00:54:40,810 --> 00:54:45,730 is important with the service charge pilot program. So I was certainly interested in 578 00:54:45,730 --> 00:54:51,350 supporting those. But those are the things that I like to have that one pulled out and again 579 00:54:51,350 --> 00:54:56,270 thanking those who are willing to serve and be on these boards with us. We really appreciate it. 580 00:54:56,990 --> 00:55:02,390 Thank you. I too wanted to highlight by leave number one. We've talked about this. We've heard a 581 00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:06,990 lot of public comment about this. So we'll move within the first quarter of next year to get something 582 00:55:06,990 --> 00:55:13,450 a pilot program launched, hopefully. So I'm excited about that. And by leaf three, the cybersecurity 583 00:55:13,450 --> 00:55:16,450 security one. Is there a cost associated with this? 584 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,620 Okay, I'm very good. That's a good answer. 585 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,480 All right, just curious. And one another, one of those recommendations from the state, 586 00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:32,200 and it's like, oh wait a minute, what's going on here? We got a lot of that going on. 587 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,040 Okay, and then the jurors pay on to highlight number 12, increasing the jurors pay. 588 00:55:37,180 --> 00:55:42,240 I hopefully that will encourage people to do their civic duty and participate on jurors. 589 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:52,440 I actually can miss you if you like. I could say this security program may actually come with some cost savings because I think as these IT folks get together and learn where they might be duplicating 590 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,300 Services and security services we're starting to consolidate some of that stuff. So it's a positive. 591 00:55:57,720 --> 00:55:58,780 Very good John. 592 00:55:59,820 --> 00:56:01,380 I'm glad to get some clues today. 593 00:56:02,020 --> 00:56:04,540 All right, so we're going on if there are no further questions. 594 00:56:05,140 --> 00:56:08,760 I am going to move that we approve of by leaves. 595 00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:16,540 And we can we can we can buy for Kate number five. I think we've got a majority ready to move on that one, but I will pull it out. 596 00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:26,080 So by leaves making a motion approval by leaves 1 through 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 12. 597 00:56:28,410 --> 00:56:28,750 Second. 598 00:56:30,050 --> 00:56:31,070 Commissaire three homes. 599 00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:31,530 Yes. 600 00:56:31,530 --> 00:56:32,650 Commissaire some are doing this. 601 00:56:32,770 --> 00:56:33,290 Yes. 602 00:56:33,330 --> 00:56:33,370 Yes. 603 00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:35,190 Thank you. 604 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:37,770 So let's vote on by leave five. 605 00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:40,090 I'm going to make a motion to approve of by leave five. 606 00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:42,290 Commissioner Trey House? 607 00:56:42,590 --> 00:56:43,030 Yes. 608 00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:43,970 Commissioner Summer, do you miss? 609 00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:44,410 Yes. 610 00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:45,470 Commissioner Reeves. 611 00:56:46,310 --> 00:56:46,990 Thank you. 612 00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:50,850 And then by leave 11, Jeff, how do we, how do you, I know you want to hold this because 613 00:56:50,850 --> 00:56:51,850 it pertains to the budget? 614 00:56:52,070 --> 00:56:52,490 Yes. 615 00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:54,730 So at some point that we have to pass this. 616 00:56:54,990 --> 00:56:55,070 So. 617 00:56:55,070 --> 00:56:59,610 So it, we've got the regular agenda item number one, which relates to the budget. 618 00:56:59,630 --> 00:57:01,570 And so this will just be included. 619 00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:02,110 Okay. 620 00:57:02,110 --> 00:57:07,610 I will make a, I will ask the commissioners to consider by leave item 11 and 621 00:57:07,610 --> 00:57:10,190 regular agenda. I just don't want to stress a bit. 622 00:57:10,270 --> 00:57:14,130 I won't. We won't let a solution and Rob is burning holes through me. 623 00:57:14,130 --> 00:57:17,550 All right. We're going to leave by leave a letter alone for the moment. All right. 624 00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:23,470 Let's move into then regular agenda item number one, which is the general 625 00:57:23,470 --> 00:57:25,130 fund. Well, all funds budget. 626 00:57:25,630 --> 00:57:30,590 Thank you, commissioner. So this is right into that. So before you say are two 627 00:57:30,590 --> 00:57:37,230 resolutions associated with the 2026 budget, the first is item number one in 628 00:57:37,230 --> 00:57:44,390 packet, this establishes a 1.36 billion dollar all funds operating budget for a 2026 629 00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:49,930 of that amount, 403.8 million is appropriated to the county general fund. 630 00:57:50,590 --> 00:57:55,350 That amount includes several adjustments to the administrators recommended budget, 631 00:57:55,350 --> 00:58:00,990 which I presented back in early November. Many of those adjustments, which we reviewed publicly 632 00:58:00,990 --> 00:58:05,650 on Tuesdays, in Tuesdays, to after meeting for transparency purposes. 633 00:58:06,290 --> 00:58:13,030 The purpose, those include an increase of 950,000 in the prosecutors budget, an increase 634 00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:20,470 of 305,000 in the sheriff's budget, an increase of 203,534 in the better and services commission 635 00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:27,670 budget, 100,000 in economic development to support the building futures program, 75,000 increase 636 00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:33,830 in the probate court budget and an increase of $46,100 in the public defenders budget. 637 00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:40,910 The budget, as adopted, also holds the transfer tax rate at the 2025 level and does not 638 00:58:40,910 --> 00:58:44,590 incorporate an additional mill as was proposed in my recommended budget. 639 00:58:45,570 --> 00:58:51,370 We also simultaneously commissioned a budget adjustment number one in front of you, which 640 00:58:51,370 --> 00:58:56,410 is contained as by leave item number 11, which was also a part of the budget process. 641 00:58:56,410 --> 00:59:00,370 This adjustment appropriates funding from the General Fund Reserve. 642 00:59:00,550 --> 00:59:07,910 It's just implemented various programs where we still are not quite certain that operating revenues are going to support the long run. 643 00:59:08,370 --> 00:59:15,050 But the board wanted to ensure that we continue these programs while we assess the revenue environment in 2026. 644 00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:22,430 These include an increase of $250,000 to the large tourism event grant program for a total of $1 million. 645 00:59:22,430 --> 00:59:30,430 And increased to the small community event grant program of 150,000 to a total of 250,000. 646 00:59:31,290 --> 00:59:37,510 And increased to the community revitalization grant program of $400,000 for a total of $1.55 million. 647 00:59:38,370 --> 00:59:42,150 And increased to the pitch night small business day programming of $10,000. 648 00:59:42,830 --> 00:59:50,130 And allocation of $100,000 to the Sports Commission, an allocation of 150,000 to support bike trail development, 649 00:59:50,130 --> 00:59:57,850 and an allocation of, and I would say that last one is consistent with my initial recommended budget. 650 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,540 An allocation of 1 million to support affordable housing development or programming in the community, which we will discuss further the programming of that funding in 2026. 651 01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:26,260 So, Commissioner, as you were aware, this was a tight, challenging budget. To balance as evidence by the various service needs we heard from departments that just didn't align with our revenue availability this year. 652 01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:30,520 So in the final document, we made a effort to account for some of those. 653 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:36,680 But unfortunately, there just wasn't the revenue availability to address all of them. 654 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,380 So I want to thank the board for its guidance through this process. 655 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:47,460 Thank all the department heads, all the elected officials for their cooperation as we've navigated the process. 656 01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:52,340 The budget department for all their hard work and getting us to this point. 657 01:00:52,340 --> 01:00:58,500 And most importantly, all the employees of the county do the day-to-day work of our organization 658 01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:00,320 to deliver value for the taxpayer. 659 01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:07,800 We're going to need to monitor this budget closely as we always do, but very closely over 660 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,260 the course of the year, staying in close touch with departments, elected offices, and agencies, 661 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:18,100 as we know that there are several offices where budget pressures are going to be particularly 662 01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:26,080 I think it's important to note that we expect departments to remain within budget during the coming year. 663 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:34,260 But I think we've prided ourselves in the past and over the years on being able to work and cooperate with departments and elected offices, 664 01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:42,000 where there are challenges to ensure that those departments can accomplish their missions successfully on behalf of the residents of the county. 665 01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:45,600 And we'll continue to work towards that same goal in 2026. 666 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,980 So in the end commissioners, we have a balanced budget. 667 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,800 One that supports the mandated functions of the county. 668 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,780 And also one that continues to provide programming important to the boards, 669 01:01:55,780 --> 01:01:58,620 specifically as it relates to helping this county grow and prosper. 670 01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:02,340 So with that commissioners, I turn it back over to you for any comments or questions. 671 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,200 Thank you. Thank you very much. 672 01:02:04,620 --> 01:02:05,740 I do have some comments. 673 01:02:06,580 --> 01:02:09,060 First of all, I want to thank the administration for all the hard work. 674 01:02:09,260 --> 01:02:10,840 This has been a very challenging process. 675 01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:18,420 particularly UJF, John Brugin, Robin Wagner, the entire budget team, I know there's been 676 01:02:18,420 --> 01:02:23,300 a lot of conversation back and forth with the different departments, and it's been 677 01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:23,680 challenging. 678 01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:27,560 I've heard from some of them myself, and I know the budget team has heard from them over 679 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,300 over again about some of the challenges that exist. 680 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,300 I want to also thank the Chiefs of Staff who have been doing the negotiating on behalf 681 01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:39,920 of the county commissioners since we are not able to do that ourselves, so thank you 682 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,640 to the chiefs for productive conversations. 683 01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:46,440 So as has been said, oh, and I also want to thank 684 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,300 the citizens, we had a couple of public hearings. 685 01:02:48,740 --> 01:02:51,400 So thanks to those who came out and testified 686 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,480 at those hearings, I think this budget reflects a lot. 687 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,740 It reflects a lot of what we heard by way of the changes 688 01:02:57,740 --> 01:02:59,380 from the Administrator's recommendation 689 01:02:59,790 --> 01:03:01,020 to where we are today. 690 01:03:01,780 --> 01:03:06,280 So it's been challenging because our expenses are up 691 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,580 and our revenues are fairly flat. 692 01:03:08,580 --> 01:03:17,480 And that creates a real challenge for us, the primary source of revenue as everyone knows is the sales tax and the sales tax has been pretty flat. 693 01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:25,080 And so that's created a problem when it comes to some of the requests that came in from the different departments. 694 01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:33,900 When you think about the what drove the increase because we've got a like a 3% increase in this budget, which is very nominal. 695 01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:39,880 But remember, we're doing a 3% increase to wages for the folks that work through the county 696 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,420 throughout all of the systems. 697 01:03:42,020 --> 01:03:44,340 Trying to make sure we can recruit and retain individuals. 698 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,460 And so that is responsible for a lot of that growth. 699 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,380 I think that's where we need to be. 700 01:03:50,620 --> 01:03:53,800 Years ago, before I got here, we were not in this position. 701 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,760 And we declined to give raises for five years in a row. 702 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,680 We lost a lot of people during that time. 703 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:06,020 And these are people with a lot of experience and expertise, and we really don't want to be in that position again. 704 01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:14,560 So I am very proud that this has been a primary focus of this county to make sure that we've got good individual serving the public of Hamilton County. 705 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:21,080 So I also want to thank these departments and the other elected officials throughout the county. 706 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:33,020 We had budget hearings with them many months ago making sure they understood the landscape of reduced or flat revenues and many of them responded in kind and said okay 707 01:04:33,020 --> 01:04:41,920 we are going to come in with less than what we would like to come in with as a request acknowledging that we've got a pretty flat revenues source going here. 708 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:51,700 So I just also want to point out this budget is no different than those in the past where the bulk of the money over 70% is going to safety. 709 01:04:52,220 --> 01:05:11,300 When you think about safety for the county, we're talking about the courts, the Justice Center, the Office of Reentry, 9-1-1, emergency management, the coroner's office, the prosecutor's office, the public defenders office, the dog warden, the list goes on, this is a budget build around public safety. 710 01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:17,540 And I think that's what our constituents expect from us, and that is what we've delivered here on this budget. 711 01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:25,120 The other piece where we had some movement was some of the economic development opportunities that we have. 712 01:05:25,180 --> 01:05:32,440 And I want to say that, well, give us some of these grants that were highlighted, the revitalization grant, for instance, with a large event grant. 713 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,560 While they are great for the community and their community building grants, 714 01:05:37,140 --> 01:05:40,980 what they're meant to do is drive revenue into the coffers of the county. 715 01:05:41,660 --> 01:05:46,360 Increase economic activity through some of these grants and so that we've got more 716 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:51,220 by way of sales tax. We've got more by way of property tax. We don't collect income tax. 717 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,860 Otherwise we would see a benefit by way of income tax, but our 49 jurisdictions do. 718 01:05:56,420 --> 01:06:01,040 And so these grants are in partnership with the 49 jurisdictions throughout the county, 719 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:08,160 particularly the community revitalization grant. So these were moved into the category against the 720 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,820 reserve. I think it's a really important distinction, because these will be evaluated every year. 721 01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:17,480 So these are not ongoing expenses. We couldn't build them into the bulk of the budget, but rather 722 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:23,140 put them against reserve. And there are many of them are lesser amounts than we have funded in the past. 723 01:06:23,420 --> 01:06:28,300 So it is a recognition that we still want to do these things to create this economic activity out in 724 01:06:28,300 --> 01:06:33,540 communities, but we've got less to do it with, and so we are providing a little bit less in 725 01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:34,400 many of these categories. 726 01:06:34,940 --> 01:06:39,760 So those would include the large event and small event grants, the community revitalization 727 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,820 grants, and we just heard, I think it was last week, from a couple of communities that have 728 01:06:43,820 --> 01:06:48,360 received these and done some catalytic projects in their communities, and we're really grateful 729 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,260 for that partnership. 730 01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:52,640 Building futures is one of those as is the sports commission. 731 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:57,480 So again, all of us are amounts, but important work that we're doing here. 732 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:03,320 some of the increases came in the other category which is ongoing expenses. You cannot create a 733 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:08,660 budget where say the prosecutor asked for additional dollars and you put that against reserve. We 734 01:07:08,660 --> 01:07:14,720 can't do that. That is not sustainable because those costs are ongoing. So we had the build that 735 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:22,020 into the budget which was a significant challenge. So we increase some investments. They're all through 736 01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:27,140 public safety. The sheriff, the prosecutor, the public defender and the courts. And so we heard 737 01:07:27,140 --> 01:07:31,280 lot during the hearings about this. We also heard a lot about some of the economic development 738 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,980 stuff. And so this budget or our recommendations to the Administrator reflect a lot of what 739 01:07:36,980 --> 01:07:42,440 we heard. We also heard about veteran services that is being fully funded in this budget. And we 740 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:47,140 still have a substantial reserve. Although, as the Administrator indicated, we need to keep an eye 741 01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:52,580 on that. Some of our other economic development partners support, ready, and ally, all are taking 742 01:07:52,580 --> 01:07:58,980 here cut in this budget. There's still being funded, but we have provided a few less dollars 743 01:07:58,980 --> 01:08:03,900 there, something else that I think is concerning, but something that we had to do. 744 01:08:04,340 --> 01:08:09,840 The Affordable Housing piece, the one million, I think this again is against the reserve, 745 01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:13,820 am I right about that? It's against the reserve. Yeah. This is something else that we will 746 01:08:13,820 --> 01:08:18,260 be evaluating year after year, but I do think it shows the ongoing commitment of this 747 01:08:18,260 --> 01:08:20,500 commission to affordable housing in this community. 748 01:08:20,860 --> 01:08:25,360 Whether we're spending it on one thing or the other, this commitment, I think is really 749 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,340 important to individuals that are watching this work and putting in, right? 750 01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:33,620 Because this commitment leverages money from the city, from the state, from the private 751 01:08:33,620 --> 01:08:34,140 community. 752 01:08:34,580 --> 01:08:38,880 And so I think it's really important that we, while it's only a million dollars, I think 753 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:43,680 it is a significant indicator that we're interested in continuing this work. 754 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:53,220 The budget also funds key social services, things that the community relies on, especially those that are in stressful situations. 755 01:08:53,620 --> 01:08:57,360 A lot of that is relevant to the levees. We haven't talked a whole lot about the levees here. 756 01:08:57,480 --> 01:09:02,960 We're going to have ongoing conversations come the new year on the levees and some of the challenges there. 757 01:09:03,580 --> 01:09:09,320 But it is important that we recognize that we have seven levees under the control of the county commission. 758 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,840 those being for seniors, for kids, for people with disabilities, for 759 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,820 indigent care, these are important services that we deliver to this county, 760 01:09:17,420 --> 01:09:21,640 to the citizens of this county, especially those that are living in the margins. 761 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:28,220 And we need to make sure that we are funding those as we can and relying on the 762 01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:31,700 taxpayers, obviously, to vote for those levees. 763 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,380 And so more conversation to come next year related to levees. 764 01:09:35,380 --> 01:09:40,000 So in 2026, we're going to face some headwinds. 765 01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:41,740 We've already referenced some of these things. 766 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,480 There are changes going on at the federal level. 767 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:45,960 Snap comes to mind. 768 01:09:46,580 --> 01:09:50,940 We are going to suffer from policy directives of this administration 769 01:09:50,940 --> 01:09:52,760 at the federal level regarding SNAP. 770 01:09:53,020 --> 01:09:55,760 We are going to have to pay more to administer that program. 771 01:09:56,060 --> 01:09:59,640 And if our air rate doesn't improve, we are going to pay a lot more. 772 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:05,080 And so that is something that I'm very concerned about related to the JFS loving 773 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,380 It's created a lot of uncertainty and that is never good for the economy. 774 01:10:09,740 --> 01:10:11,560 We've got some headwinds coming from the state. 775 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,760 We've referenced House Bill 335. 776 01:10:13,820 --> 01:10:15,840 This is the property tax relief bill. 777 01:10:16,420 --> 01:10:20,740 So property taxes or inside millage for the county will be held at the rate of inflation. 778 01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:27,140 That is our answer to how do you provide relief to citizens whose property tax bills are 779 01:10:27,140 --> 01:10:28,480 going way up and spiking. 780 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,560 This will keep that from happening. 781 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:36,400 And so it is our way of addressing that problem, I should say one of the ways, but it's 782 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,140 going to cost money. 783 01:10:37,780 --> 01:10:40,520 I mean, this cost will cost millions of dollars to the county. 784 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,200 This is our, I mean for us to be for myself, this is my idea of partnership, right? 785 01:10:45,220 --> 01:10:50,240 We have to do something and so we know it's going to cost money, but we have to recognize that 786 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,580 in the next budget, this is going to come to pass and we're going to have less revenue at 787 01:10:54,580 --> 01:10:58,760 our disposal because of some of that, something that we're doing in by way of partnership 788 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,760 with the citizens and property tax payers in this area. 789 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:08,080 And then the uncertainty in the economy, I mean, in some ways this budget looks towards 790 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,260 the future and says we are hopeful that our sales tax revenue will improve. 791 01:11:13,020 --> 01:11:20,380 I am hopeful that we have a lot of good things going on in this county, I think about the Convention 792 01:11:20,380 --> 01:11:24,140 Center redevelopment and all the economic activity that that's going to bring in. 793 01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:25,940 We've done that in partnership with the city. 794 01:11:25,940 --> 01:11:31,320 we will benefit from that through sales tax, the city will benefit through income tax. 795 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:37,340 But hopefully we will see that some of our investments start to pay off by bringing some 796 01:11:37,340 --> 01:11:40,940 more revenue into our budget, and so that next year is not so difficult. 797 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,580 But we will know that soon enough, right? 798 01:11:43,660 --> 01:11:47,860 We will have predictions in the first corner that are indicators of how we are doing. 799 01:11:48,020 --> 01:11:51,820 And we're going to have to keep an eye on it because it's not as if our costs are going 800 01:11:51,820 --> 01:11:52,360 down. 801 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:59,700 the cost will continue to go up as we continue to invest in our workforce and the workers that provide services to this county. 802 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:08,360 And so we are going to have to keep a close eye on how those revenues will come in and make sure they're we're exercising all of our options. 803 01:12:09,380 --> 01:12:11,560 So that's what I've got related to this budget. 804 01:12:11,820 --> 01:12:13,000 I once again want to thank everybody. 805 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:19,340 There's been a lot of adjustment from the administrative recommendation to the budget. 806 01:12:19,340 --> 01:12:24,540 we've got in front of us now and so I'm grateful to my colleagues and to staff for working with all of us 807 01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:28,960 to make sure that we got this right. So that's what I have. I'm going to turn it over to you, 808 01:12:28,980 --> 01:12:35,980 commissioner. So thank you so much. I just wanted to make a comment as a relay. So I could have it on the 809 01:12:35,980 --> 01:12:42,020 record. There was a gentleman, John, from Georgia, who sent me an email as a relay to the 810 01:12:42,020 --> 01:12:46,760 bevel's game and kindness for kids and I want to submit it to the clerks. I just wanted to say that 811 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:54,680 clean case. She's watching. As a relates to the budget, certainly one of the 812 01:12:54,680 --> 01:13:03,540 thanks staff and staff in the finance department, my colleagues, for all the work 813 01:13:03,540 --> 01:13:09,460 that they've done as a relates to this budget, my concern was not to add any additional 814 01:13:09,460 --> 01:13:15,840 cost on our residents, if it all possible. And that's why the transfer of fee, which we didn't 815 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:22,600 I have to vote on, but I said no to the transfer fee, also, to make sure that did not happen. 816 01:13:23,540 --> 01:13:27,960 So I really want to thank the Chiefs of Staff, how hard they've worked specifically. 817 01:13:28,940 --> 01:13:35,960 My Chief of Staff, Bishop Bobby Hilton, who had to go back and forth with me and make sure 818 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,820 that he communicated what I needed and I'm sure he did that. 819 01:13:39,820 --> 01:13:46,380 And it seems like the things that I was interested in as a commissioner came through in the budget. 820 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,480 But for me, it's about trust. 821 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:55,240 It was brought up earlier about trust by the Bishops and for administration. 822 01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:03,300 When I asked all those questions that I asked, I had to trust that the answers were truthful. 823 01:14:03,300 --> 01:14:11,620 They were coming forward to give me more enlightenment on making a decision. 824 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:20,400 It's not blind trust when you work with people for a while and you know that they're there for the greater good at this county. 825 01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:25,600 And I truly believe that administration is here for that and also finance. 826 01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:29,440 So I appreciate you answering all those questions. 827 01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:33,240 we're living in a perilous time. 828 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:43,460 There is no business as usual. I'm a very positive person. One of the most positive of you ever need, I think. 829 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:56,680 But we don't know what tomorrow may bring. We really don't know. Every day from day to day, some people are literally now living from day to day. 830 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,700 As a government week 831 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,020 We can't live from day to day. We have to be able to look ahead and have a reserve and plan ahead. But it's really hard in these times. 832 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:19,300 We do not have the millions of the ARPA monies that we had before to fall back on. We have to spend all our monies by the end of 2026. 833 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:25,860 And one of my concerns, one of my major concerns, when we started this budget discussion was, 834 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:33,980 how long are we going to continue to fund those new programs that we were able to start 835 01:15:33,980 --> 01:15:40,600 because of the art from money? But I will say that I'm satisfied that we were able to reduce 836 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,940 the amount of money that we were putting toward those programs, but I still say, how long? 837 01:15:45,940 --> 01:15:52,440 how long are we going to continue to undergird these different programs they were doing well 838 01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:58,300 before we gave them additional money of course they did better but i think they will do 839 01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:06,540 find without the money that we're giving from the county i've said there is i said before it 840 01:16:06,540 --> 01:16:13,380 our public hearing there's one pie we only have one pie we have to divide it up and who says that somebody 841 01:16:13,380 --> 01:16:18,860 should get more than others, where, of course, public safety always traditionally everywhere 842 01:16:18,860 --> 01:16:25,840 gets more. And that's okay with me. But some of the central items for me on the budget 843 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:36,020 were, of course, public safety children services, seniors, housing, food insecurity. Some say the return 844 01:16:36,020 --> 01:16:42,240 of investment is needed to ensure that money is coming in, for instance, that economic development 845 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:48,380 programs that we have, and I also agree with that. But I think that they will do fine without 846 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:54,960 all the money that we give them from the county. I'm really happy about the developments. I voted 847 01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:00,700 on the new developments, and I think they're good for the county, of course. I'm one, as I said, 848 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:05,600 the visits, the board, and I encourage them to continue doing what they're doing. 849 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:15,860 I don't believe we can, the fans will not, they've cut our money. 850 01:17:19,780 --> 01:17:21,480 We don't know what else they're going to cut. 851 01:17:21,540 --> 01:17:23,120 They may cut snap again. 852 01:17:24,220 --> 01:17:26,700 So we're still trying to meet the needs of the needy. 853 01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:29,520 Every group that we cluster funding is a need. 854 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,280 Everyone that I mentioned, children, seniors, property owners, 855 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,220 there's nine profits affordable housing, 856 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,200 share of court system prosecutors, just to name a few. 857 01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:44,400 As your commissioner, it's my job to fund these requests, 858 01:17:44,740 --> 01:17:45,780 keep a reserve. 859 01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:47,960 Our reserve is down, not a lot, 860 01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:50,580 I think it's down about 3% 861 01:17:50,580 --> 01:17:53,000 than where we're used to having that. 862 01:17:53,300 --> 01:17:56,640 Because we don't know, as I said about SNAP or anything else. 863 01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:01,200 I mean, HUD is cutting, we don't know about housing for people. 864 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:08,120 I can remember several months ago when JFS came in here and they had a hundred million dollars 865 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,020 reserves. 866 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:16,180 And then we'll talk about why don't we use some of that money for other things and I said absolutely not. 867 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:22,220 Our children have lots of needs and we need to keep that money in that offer. 868 01:18:22,700 --> 01:18:30,860 We're now JFS is looking at a possible 34 million dollar deficit in 2016 if they don't do something different. 869 01:18:30,860 --> 01:18:32,300 and we do something different. 870 01:18:32,780 --> 01:18:35,860 So I'm real happy that we kept that money in there. 871 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:44,400 One initiative that my started and my colleague supported 872 01:18:45,140 --> 01:18:46,540 was inspired initiative, 873 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,020 which will be funded this time. 874 01:18:49,180 --> 01:18:52,600 It has impacted over 30,000 children. 875 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,860 Like I said at the start, we have to be ready to respond. 876 01:18:57,340 --> 01:18:59,980 That's why when we were asked to put in 877 01:18:59,980 --> 01:19:08,860 billion dollars for the renovation at the pay core stadium, 1.3 billion, and we said no, you 878 01:19:08,860 --> 01:19:16,300 have to do better than that. We reduced it all the way to 350 million for the board to, and 879 01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:21,820 also, of course, the bingles will be putting in some money, and F.L.W. also be putting in money, 880 01:19:21,940 --> 01:19:29,700 but we have been fighting for our residents and for the tax dollar. It's very lean, as was said, 881 01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:36,640 before. But my wish since I didn't give a wish for Christmas yet, I was going to wait, but 882 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:46,840 my wish for this season is that the people of Hamilton County do your research, read, you 883 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:55,020 listen to us, but don't take everything that we say, research it, look at the details, not 884 01:19:55,020 --> 01:20:01,620 listening, but here what we say, because everything you hear is not the fact. You need 885 01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:07,800 the fact check. That's my wish for our residents. And look at my voting record on the 886 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:15,780 issues that concern you. Take a real hard look where your money is going. That's my wish for 887 01:20:15,780 --> 01:20:20,380 all of these, all of our residents and I'm the county. This is a lot of money we're hopefully 888 01:20:20,380 --> 01:20:22,900 getting ready to pass this budget for. 889 01:20:23,220 --> 01:20:25,700 Don't just accept what's being set up here, 890 01:20:26,020 --> 01:20:28,680 but look into a research because this is your money. 891 01:20:36,350 --> 01:20:43,890 And that's my wish, my prayer for 2026 as we move forward. 892 01:20:44,450 --> 01:20:46,910 We're hoping that these money will suffice. 893 01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:50,050 And as I say, we are not fortune tellers. 894 01:20:50,190 --> 01:20:51,790 We don't know what's going to come forward. 895 01:20:52,170 --> 01:20:54,650 And we're hoping that our reserve will handle it. 896 01:20:55,690 --> 01:21:01,530 But if not, we have to do what we have to do as a commission, so that's all I have. 897 01:21:01,890 --> 01:21:02,290 Thank you. 898 01:21:02,370 --> 01:21:02,930 Missionaries. 899 01:21:05,900 --> 01:21:06,980 Thank you. 900 01:21:07,860 --> 01:21:17,940 This budget process, which I've been here, has probably been maybe one of the toughest. 901 01:21:17,940 --> 01:21:18,280 I don't know. 902 01:21:18,460 --> 01:21:25,700 My first one probably was tough because we were looking to get some going and a new direction on some things. 903 01:21:25,700 --> 01:21:27,200 But this one was really tough. 904 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:35,280 For me, my focus was three things from what I heard from citizens, not at the town hall meeting. 905 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:42,220 Not just in this room, but what I would hear from people at the grocery store. 906 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,120 What I would hear from people coming out of church. 907 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,040 What I would hear from people at the gas station. 908 01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:53,940 People would stop me and talk about what they wanted to see. 909 01:21:53,940 --> 01:21:59,820 Now county government ours has been in existent over with 200 plus years 910 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,300 Most people don't even know what the county does 911 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:12,480 They're getting a little better at it, but basically they know it if they get a child support order or if they got to pay property taxes 912 01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:22,500 Similar to that, but outside of that they don't really know it's not like when they go down the local city government and those kind of things and so 913 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:30,720 As I talk with them and listen to them and call their office in different things, there's 914 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:37,860 three things that I wanted to fight for in this, for me, it has to be the people's budget. 915 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,960 It's not my personal budget, it's the people's budget. 916 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:47,720 There were three things that came into my, based on what they said, and these would be people 917 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,760 also that I see when I go out to the five, one through relief bus, a lot of people that we 918 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:59,480 run into. Number one, they want to make sure that their safe safety was important. Number 919 01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:07,340 two, and not in his order, but the other issue was affordability. So safety of affordability 920 01:23:07,340 --> 01:23:20,520 is huge right now. And they didn't want any new taxes. So as I looked at this budget and we 921 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:26,080 difficult because you have to go through your cheeses staffs. We can't talk directly and do our own 922 01:23:27,060 --> 01:23:31,520 negotiations as we've been able to do at the State House and they're able to do at the city 923 01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:39,600 which is part I really love. But our cheeses staffs I think did a good job trying to articulate 924 01:23:40,260 --> 01:23:42,740 and keep up with as this thing was moving. 925 01:23:45,220 --> 01:23:46,420 In this budget 926 01:23:47,600 --> 01:24:14,400 When a first was presented, there was as presented, I couldn't have supported it, as is presented because then the presented budget, it had that there would be an additional tax if you will, on your real estate, you were to sell it, it was going to be a transfer tax, and I had heard from people they didn't want anymore new taxes. 927 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:22,240 At the hearings, and I appreciate as hearing from people and saying, yes, we're going to take 928 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:23,140 that out. 929 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:28,720 And I want to thank the Greater Cincinnati, Religious Alliance, the Relicist Association, 930 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:36,500 Home Builders Association, and other alliances, Mary Huttingler and Felicia Bill and Heather 931 01:24:36,500 --> 01:24:42,640 Cough, and so many others that came and testified in that area, and how that would affect 932 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:49,620 even new home buyers, it would affect affordable home buyers. 933 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,860 And so it would be counterproductive 934 01:24:51,860 --> 01:24:54,920 to what we have been promoting, affordability. 935 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,240 We've been saying we have affordable housing, 936 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,600 but we would have inadvertently put something in 937 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:05,120 that made it unaffordable for a person to have a house. 938 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,340 And so I'm happy that that is out. 939 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,020 I was not forward when I first saw it 940 01:25:11,020 --> 01:25:18,700 And I want to thank those who were in this industry who came out and talked about it and even one lady came 941 01:25:18,700 --> 01:25:24,800 Who does the mortgage is he doesn't for the major banks you're doing for and she really gave a good 942 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:30,140 cliff note lesson that even some as much as 10 dollars more could just 943 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:38,540 Cut it off you could have the you could have done all the work and got all your down payment. Got all the 944 01:25:38,540 --> 01:25:44,680 We're a pair of credit and everything but they have a stop and if it's $10, even $10, 945 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,500 it would kill the deal. 946 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:53,380 So I'm glad that that is not in here and so that moved me to it will maybe I can go with 947 01:25:53,380 --> 01:26:00,500 this budget because with that in there it would have been a no for me because no new taxes 948 01:26:00,500 --> 01:26:06,260 was a big deal. First a lot of people was a big deal from what I heard affordability. 949 01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:09,940 People right now 950 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:16,660 suffering and not people that you get to think is not just low income. When we look at 951 01:26:16,660 --> 01:26:21,660 everyday in these companies they're laying off and getting rid of me these are big jobs and it's 952 01:26:21,660 --> 01:26:28,760 hard to get a big job again and it takes three and four and five interviews sometimes months before 953 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:34,040 you get another opportunity and the bills don't stop because you oh I don't have a job 954 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:39,720 it's gonna stop now it's rough out here for every bunker who you are so I'm not out here 955 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:46,560 judge anybody on their bills bills are killing us medical just getting ready to go up is already 956 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:55,360 killing us now it's gonna go up higher for medical go to the grocery store people barely can get 957 01:26:55,360 --> 01:27:04,080 some eggs and some bacon. It's too expensive. It's too expensive. So those who are not getting 958 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:14,060 any help can't hardly make it now, which does affect our sales tax to the person. I can't 959 01:27:14,060 --> 01:27:19,900 get no whole cart and I get this time. So there's spending less. And those who have a little 960 01:27:19,900 --> 01:27:24,520 bit of money, they try to hold on to it because they don't know which way this economy is going 961 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:33,740 go. So the affordability led by the Washington, trickle down to stake and then hit 962 01:27:33,740 --> 01:27:40,960 nuts at the county level. So we must, for me, I must put affordability 963 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:49,360 top notch in front. It's not so much balancing just this binder. I got to make sure 964 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:54,800 But in this binder, is this something a grandma will be able to balance so she can hold on 965 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,660 until we hopefully get through these crazy times. 966 01:27:58,700 --> 01:28:03,520 It's got to be something in this binder, not just this binder, is it some foot of veteran 967 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:09,640 that just came home or is home and trying to make it and serve our country and trying to hold 968 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:11,020 on. 969 01:28:11,020 --> 01:28:20,960 This is not just a binder, a budget, or we balanced it, we structurally balanced, but that 970 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:26,460 has been as unstructured we balance and can't send us keys to college, can't make it, 971 01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:32,300 don't know how you're going to pay the next mortgage, because if they're unsuccessful, then 972 01:28:32,300 --> 01:28:34,420 this binder is unsuccessful. 973 01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:43,970 So for me, that's where I'm when I come into the budget, yes I know numbers, I've been 974 01:28:43,970 --> 01:28:49,290 on the finance, the city, and the state, I know the numbers, but I'm trying to match it 975 01:28:49,290 --> 01:28:57,050 with the people, what are their needs, what are they saying, what can we do? And it requires 976 01:28:57,050 --> 01:29:07,430 us to go non-traditional. So what we've been doing for 200 years, 285 years, no good anymore. 977 01:29:08,410 --> 01:29:15,050 So we can say, oh, we do it this way all the time and it's over. It's time for new concepts, new 978 01:29:15,050 --> 01:29:23,490 ideas, very strong negotiations and leveraging every penny. That's all we'll, you know, 979 01:29:23,490 --> 01:29:28,430 missioners before did it so so what that's all we used to be all horses and 980 01:29:28,430 --> 01:29:32,270 buggies and we ain't on it no more so it's going to challenge us all 981 01:29:32,270 --> 01:29:38,570 departments and I said this in our meeting that we had over at the Memorial Hall we 982 01:29:38,570 --> 01:29:45,350 got to look at it from a different lens we got to be more nimble now we got to meet 983 01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:52,010 the knees and the challenges because that's what we're here to do so at least for 984 01:29:52,010 --> 01:29:57,570 So safety, affordability, and no new tax burden. 985 01:30:00,210 --> 01:30:26,650 Now I will say that I'm disappointed and I won't continue to say it. The new bingo deal counted out the taxpayers. They got less than they got another deal. The other deal was terrible, but at least you can try to get 30%. You could look at it each year. You could vote on it. This new deal could cut them out and say you ain't getting 30% ever. 986 01:30:28,230 --> 01:30:33,150 So you cut them out, the only way that would have cut them in is if we put it on the ballot 987 01:30:33,150 --> 01:30:34,810 because then you got to talk to them. 988 01:30:35,070 --> 01:30:38,530 You put them on the ballot, they won't be running down trying to meet with our officers. 989 01:30:38,890 --> 01:30:41,190 They'll be out in the community trying to meet with these homeowners. 990 01:30:41,470 --> 01:30:42,870 That's what happened the first time. 991 01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:47,190 They didn't go down the county commission office and come here and get two minutes. 992 01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:51,770 They had to go to these neighborhoods, they had to go to the bingles, had to get out of that 993 01:30:51,770 --> 01:30:56,350 stadium they was in and get out here and find some people and talk the grandma and talk 994 01:30:56,350 --> 01:31:03,190 some other people now. It ended up not being truthful, but they had to talk to them. This time 995 01:31:03,190 --> 01:31:07,610 they didn't have to talk to nobody in the neighborhood. They didn't have to lead that stadium. 996 01:31:08,430 --> 01:31:11,830 They didn't have to go into these communities. They had to go to the Anderson Township here with 997 01:31:11,830 --> 01:31:15,030 they had to say, they didn't have to go to the Co-Rain Township, see what they got to say. 998 01:31:15,250 --> 01:31:19,290 They didn't have to go into everything, see what they got to say. They just stayed in there 999 01:31:19,290 --> 01:31:24,510 offices that we paid for and all they did was have their lawyers and I lawyers and we was 1000 01:31:24,510 --> 01:31:31,490 have those doors. So that's why I'm disappointed that we're going from 30% to 4.5% 1001 01:31:32,150 --> 01:31:37,770 when the homeowners are the ones that's struggling right now. They lose their home, 1002 01:31:37,770 --> 01:31:42,830 they won't be able to pay it off and then the home goes into a land bank that pays zero dollars. 1003 01:31:44,590 --> 01:31:50,650 So that's why I was fighting for that because that's what I heard from them and some people 1004 01:31:50,650 --> 01:31:55,870 they built. I heard from them. It's not something you got to listen to me, y'all you 1005 01:31:55,870 --> 01:32:01,870 got to do is look at your bill. Your bill will tell you what it is. With that being said, 1006 01:32:03,450 --> 01:32:12,670 this budget, this portion of the budget, does fund our veterans, which is super important. 1007 01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:24,180 If funds safety, we increase our budget for the shares, we increase the budget that was proposed, 1008 01:32:24,460 --> 01:32:32,100 we increase that for the prosecutor's office, we increase the probate court, so we put 1009 01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:39,660 some increases around and, sincerely, around safety, so that's why I can support it. 1010 01:32:39,660 --> 01:32:47,260 The veterans are not counted out. They're counting it in fully funded. I can support it 1011 01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:52,460 The 513 relief bus mobile was more needed now than ever before 1012 01:32:53,080 --> 01:33:00,040 over 30,000 people and services is the county going all over this county. No matter where they go 1013 01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:02,080 There's a need 1014 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:07,600 They go out to Harris and one time they water was getting ready to be turned up. There was a need 1015 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:12,380 people going in there getting they're gonna need even more now because the 1016 01:33:12,380 --> 01:33:16,820 coat pays and when I go there at least get your blood pressure check to get your 1017 01:33:16,820 --> 01:33:22,540 diabetes check to those kind of things at no coat pay people now I look 1018 01:33:22,540 --> 01:33:26,880 for discounts when I was in programs and ladies looking this is all 1019 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,680 now that they don't say I'll put it down even though it was only two dollar 1020 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:36,880 difference they got to look croaker card everybody put it on my car and when you 1021 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:42,640 you're done. You got $3.50. You're going to give me my $3.00. People are looking for discounts. 1022 01:33:43,340 --> 01:33:49,020 So as a county, any discount we can pass on. And that's what the bus is trying to do. 1023 01:33:49,180 --> 01:33:56,980 To connect you to the services in the discounts. So I'm happy that the bus is in here mobile and 1024 01:33:56,980 --> 01:34:01,140 other counties are trying to follow us because they didn't have no bus. Now they're trying to get a bus. 1025 01:34:01,140 --> 01:34:08,100 And so I'm happy with the five one three relief buses in here, so I can support small businesses. 1026 01:34:09,140 --> 01:34:12,620 Now, we were there to help them in their toughest times. 1027 01:34:13,060 --> 01:34:20,700 But the times of steel talk, restaurants every day, been open 30 years, 25 years every day. 1028 01:34:20,780 --> 01:34:23,400 This one done went out of business after 25 years. 1029 01:34:23,740 --> 01:34:26,300 This one's going out of business out of 30 years. 1030 01:34:26,300 --> 01:34:33,860 Small businesses if if if they companies are laying off small businesses got new money 1031 01:34:35,740 --> 01:34:39,500 So I'm happy that in here we keep 1032 01:34:39,500 --> 01:34:45,520 So funding for the office and small business and try to help people some people will be forced to go in the small business 1033 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,400 Is they got no job? 1034 01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,600 And they got to try to make some money. They got to become a entrepreneur 1035 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:55,800 So I'm glad that we have that in the budget small business data help connect them 1036 01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,300 Uh, is in there. 1037 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:02,820 On pitch tonight is not just a pitch, and I had said this, I want more money going to the actual entrepreneur. 1038 01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:05,900 That's what I want. 1039 01:35:06,220 --> 01:35:11,660 So they can try to help stay afloat and be able to continue. 1040 01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:15,960 I know we rolled the facade program, but it's very important with facade programs. 1041 01:35:16,180 --> 01:35:19,760 Most of my business don't have time to do the outside and all that. 1042 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:24,160 And these business districts is very important for economic development. 1043 01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:32,400 Now, the community revitalization grants, I support that, because we've been doing nothing 1044 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,900 with revitalizing our tomorrow look up, and believe me, I mean, I'm born and raised 1045 01:35:36,900 --> 01:35:40,220 this name, but it took my look up as the downtown major project. 1046 01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:46,540 So people in the other areas say, we can't have all our money going downtown, what about 1047 01:35:46,540 --> 01:35:51,380 our business districts, and mountain healthy, and local and other places? 1048 01:35:51,380 --> 01:35:59,340 they want something too. Springfield Township. So the community revitalization allows us 1049 01:35:59,340 --> 01:36:04,040 to get around and know that it's one Hamilton County, 49 minutes of 1050 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:10,440 Palli so it can be strong and be able to collect taxes. If it's empty, then collect 1051 01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:15,860 enough. Then collect enough and buy enough and we're not getting enough. The other 1052 01:36:15,860 --> 01:36:20,340 thing that we make our money on, they say property taxes, they say sales tax, we make 1053 01:36:20,340 --> 01:36:27,100 money also on hotel motel tax. Now what we got to do is put given it away all over place 1054 01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:33,820 if it doesn't bring something back we got to get something to and so I do support the large 1055 01:36:33,820 --> 01:36:41,460 tourism grants. Now this is not this is for me it's not this one no COVID program. What this is is 1056 01:36:41,460 --> 01:36:48,220 if the people are bringing heads to the bayets because this competitive now you can go other places 1057 01:36:48,220 --> 01:36:56,120 you don't have to come here. If you put heads in these beds, we get paid. And I'm willing 1058 01:36:56,120 --> 01:37:02,800 to support those who have events. Why would I want to get rid of or let some other place 1059 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:08,600 come in and cut them out and they not bring heads to the beds? Now, some things they bring 1060 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:15,340 no heads to the beds. I ain't really too, you know, that's okay. But I look at for how many 1061 01:37:15,340 --> 01:37:22,340 The hands to the beds have we brought versus how much we don't put into this large, as 1062 01:37:22,340 --> 01:37:23,460 why I put the word tourism, 1063 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:26,240 grants. 1064 01:37:27,220 --> 01:37:32,840 This is to get outside people who don't live here, bring the money, stand these hotels 1065 01:37:33,420 --> 01:37:39,480 so we can use the money to be able to reinvest in our county. 1066 01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:45,360 So that's why that's important because we can't keep cutting and we bring a net, we bring 1067 01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,760 and then forward to bring old money in. 1068 01:37:47,900 --> 01:37:51,140 Lord can we bring ideas and things forward 1069 01:37:51,140 --> 01:37:53,500 and then we cut taxes. 1070 01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,340 We bring development forward and they say, 1071 01:37:56,740 --> 01:37:57,420 no tax. 1072 01:37:58,420 --> 01:38:01,880 So it's also developer and tax free for five things years. 1073 01:38:02,060 --> 01:38:05,180 In reach on grandma grandpa, I've got to pay extra taxes. 1074 01:38:06,060 --> 01:38:08,320 So I'm not interested in bringing a lot of things in 1075 01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,080 as given no taxes. 1076 01:38:10,180 --> 01:38:12,960 We might have to put our foot down on some of that stuff. 1077 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:23,380 But this large event and the community revitalization, I think we could do a better job of looking at how much money did it bring in. 1078 01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,080 But it has to be here as in a band. 1079 01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:26,880 It's not just I got a great event. 1080 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:29,940 So that's what I think is important. 1081 01:38:30,380 --> 01:38:31,460 Sports Commission. 1082 01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:33,240 I support it. 1083 01:38:33,340 --> 01:38:35,540 I want us amateur sports facility. 1084 01:38:36,060 --> 01:38:38,060 We're losing money every day. 1085 01:38:38,060 --> 01:38:40,600 and could nor the Kentucky, we hold nothing, and they say, 1086 01:38:40,780 --> 01:38:43,000 oh, nor the Kentucky is going to build one, and we get the grant. 1087 01:38:44,340 --> 01:38:47,580 We brought in a person that's aggressive, that's going to lead. 1088 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,560 We revitalize this sports commission. 1089 01:38:51,140 --> 01:38:53,260 And the Convention Center can only do so many 1090 01:38:53,260 --> 01:38:57,480 because if you do a convention, you book three, four years out, 1091 01:38:57,780 --> 01:39:00,280 then you can't have the tournament all the time. 1092 01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,760 So, but I'm glad that they're doing some things. 1093 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:07,460 This person has proven we gave them 150,000 last year 1094 01:39:07,460 --> 01:39:13,480 to market and bring in sporting events and they have brought in sporting events and we've 1095 01:39:13,480 --> 01:39:17,180 got, I want to do more, I want to be more aggressive and I want to bring more opportunities 1096 01:39:17,180 --> 01:39:19,420 to kids that live here. 1097 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:24,520 If you bring these outsides sporting events you bring national coaches and we bring the national 1098 01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:29,200 coaches they get to see our kids and when they see our kids our kids get a chance to get 1099 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:35,780 the scholarships and that's very important to me so I support this budget having the sports 1100 01:39:35,780 --> 01:39:42,300 commission because they also got what hands in the beets and when those hands get on those 1101 01:39:42,300 --> 01:39:50,880 beets we as a county get money. So I support that and I'm also happy since I'd like me to 1102 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:56,360 talk things in here because it's funded through restricted funds. No general fund. So I'm happy 1103 01:39:56,360 --> 01:40:02,540 about that that is in here has 300,000 visitors that have come. We got to click it down there. I 1104 01:40:02,540 --> 01:40:05,640 I think it's more than 300,000, that was the October numbers. 1105 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,380 I don't know what the other numbers are gonna be, 1106 01:40:08,540 --> 01:40:11,720 but it's 300,000 coming down there. 1107 01:40:12,500 --> 01:40:14,640 So there are certain things I think this budget 1108 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:18,860 is diversified, economic development, safety, 1109 01:40:19,860 --> 01:40:24,780 small business, low new taxes on the real estate, 1110 01:40:25,180 --> 01:40:27,060 transfer fee is out of there. 1111 01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:31,380 And I agree that we've got to keep our eye on this 1112 01:40:31,380 --> 01:40:35,100 on a month or month because things are changing 1113 01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,500 to the children's services level. 1114 01:40:38,020 --> 01:40:42,700 I'll say this and wrap up to the home owner that's out there 1115 01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:47,880 or the citizen that's out there who they're the ones who pay for that. 1116 01:40:47,940 --> 01:40:52,920 The level is paid by home owners property taxes. 1117 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,580 When they see a $100 million and then all of a sudden 1118 01:40:57,580 --> 01:41:02,760 now it's time for a new leddy and now we're talking about we broke. They're almost the 1119 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:08,980 answers. And so we've had some preliminary things. But as we move forward, I want to make 1120 01:41:08,980 --> 01:41:12,080 sure we shouldn't be able to get from 100 million all the way down. And now we ain't got 1121 01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:16,680 no money. And now we ready to do something. I need to know if it's starting looking like 1122 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:25,660 your count going down. We got to hold up time out. Let's have a real. I mean, just a 1123 01:41:25,660 --> 01:41:31,500 thing on this and so I know that the administrators said now we'll get I think every month will be 1124 01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:36,940 looking at our money and we'll be doing that but to the person on the outside this was I mean I 1125 01:41:36,940 --> 01:41:41,660 could I would think it too I wasn't sitting in here I'm still kind of thinking I don't know where we go 1126 01:41:41,660 --> 01:41:47,140 from a hundred million dollars a year ago an extra money and then you come back to your later 1127 01:41:47,140 --> 01:41:52,460 now you talk about you you don't ran out of money people get a little dicey with that and then they 1128 01:41:52,460 --> 01:41:57,080 looking at their own home, Bill, and they ain't getting no break in the property tax going 1129 01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:57,700 up. 1130 01:41:57,900 --> 01:42:03,460 And they get a love saying, so I'm looking forward to, again, doing it different. 1131 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,220 You know, I want to look at this, I want to make need to look at it every week. 1132 01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:11,140 We know that these companies are doing some new things to us. 1133 01:42:11,300 --> 01:42:16,760 They need to be exposed, that they overcharge the county, that I'm for exposing these 1134 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:17,080 companies. 1135 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,360 That's overcharge in the county and trying to bankrupt the county. 1136 01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:26,920 who are these companies? So that's another thing. We're not voting on that today. 1137 01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:32,920 But, and I'm happy that we got a million dollars for affordable housing, but I'm 1138 01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:40,400 not forgiven it to a specific entity yet. Bring a project. What's the quickest we can 1139 01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:46,100 get some people in some housing? Is it vouchers? Is it building something new? Because 1140 01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:53,840 The goal is to get people this unhoused house, and so I'm happy that that is in the budget. 1141 01:42:54,440 --> 01:43:02,020 So with that, I will support this budget, again, I do want to thank the administration and 1142 01:43:02,020 --> 01:43:07,300 the budget of people that everybody that works on this, because I know you said, man, 1143 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:12,540 it's a lot of questions, because when I walk out of here, there's a lot of questions 1144 01:43:12,540 --> 01:43:16,240 So I'm going to have to answer to the people that are out here struggling. 1145 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:18,960 So thank you all for working on this. 1146 01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:20,160 Thanks to the cheese. 1147 01:43:20,300 --> 01:43:21,740 I know it's a lot of back and forth. 1148 01:43:22,340 --> 01:43:23,480 We've gotten there. 1149 01:43:23,740 --> 01:43:30,380 We've got this, you know, and what we do is celebrate each day and take it day by day. 1150 01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:35,100 So today is a good day, safety of affordability and no new taxes. 1151 01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:36,160 Oh, yes. 1152 01:43:36,500 --> 01:43:38,040 Thank you. 1153 01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:38,860 Thank you. 1154 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:43,080 I'm going to make a motion that we approve of item number one. 1155 01:43:43,220 --> 01:43:43,600 Second. 1156 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:45,800 Commissure three house? 1157 01:43:45,940 --> 01:43:46,380 Yes. 1158 01:43:46,380 --> 01:43:47,180 Commissure some I do. 1159 01:43:48,220 --> 01:43:48,280 Commissioner. 1160 01:43:48,620 --> 01:43:48,920 Yes. 1161 01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:49,720 Thank you. 1162 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:50,780 Thank you again, Jeff. 1163 01:43:51,460 --> 01:43:52,440 Oh, and I'll buy leave. 1164 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:53,700 I leave number 11. 1165 01:43:53,700 --> 01:43:54,500 I'm going to make a motion. 1166 01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:55,840 We approve a buy leave number 11. 1167 01:43:56,060 --> 01:43:56,420 Second. 1168 01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:57,980 Commissure three house? 1169 01:43:57,980 --> 01:43:58,420 Yes. 1170 01:43:58,420 --> 01:43:58,960 Commissure some. 1171 01:43:59,280 --> 01:43:59,640 Yes. 1172 01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:02,240 Thank you. 1173 01:44:02,440 --> 01:44:03,940 I don't number 11. 1174 01:44:03,980 --> 01:44:04,700 That was at $30. 1175 01:44:06,220 --> 01:44:07,160 Which one is that? 1176 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:07,800 it was the, 1177 01:44:12,140 --> 01:44:17,020 okay, great, I just want to make sure, okay, thank you, all right, we're going to move on. 1178 01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,100 Let's go to the engineers, items, items two and three. 1179 01:44:22,570 --> 01:44:25,630 Thank you, commissioners, Todd Long, Chief Deputy in here. 1180 01:44:26,790 --> 01:44:30,670 Item number two refers to some progress in snow and ice removal. 1181 01:44:30,890 --> 01:44:37,530 So I just before I get to item I'd like to thank our hardworking men and women who have been working diligently through our snow and ice season, 1182 01:44:37,790 --> 01:44:41,650 although it's just begun, we know we have worked to prepare to continue to clean the road. 1183 01:44:41,650 --> 01:44:45,670 So I just want to thank them for all their work being away from their family, their hours they have to work. 1184 01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:47,150 So I appreciate that. 1185 01:44:47,530 --> 01:44:52,450 But with no further ado, my item number two is a resolution for an intergovernment agreement with Miami Township, 1186 01:44:52,730 --> 01:44:56,970 with a rental of a rubber tire loader for the 2025-26 snow season. 1187 01:44:57,690 --> 01:44:58,710 The agreement is... 1188 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:12,040 For $2,000, the Reptile Relator portion, with a 25% app on the engineer's costs, out of road and bridge funds, up to $10,000 for any loader repair. 1189 01:45:13,980 --> 01:45:23,820 Item number three is a resolution to allow the 2026 resurfacing program project 502602 to put it to put out the bid. 1190 01:45:23,820 --> 01:45:28,900 This is located in an Anderson, Coloring, Harrison, Sikomora, and Sims Townships. 1191 01:45:29,860 --> 01:45:32,420 The bid opening date would be January 15, 2026. 1192 01:45:33,300 --> 01:45:36,060 The engineer's estimate is $5 million, $60,000, 1193 01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,700 of which two million will be coming from the Road and Bridge Fund, 1194 01:45:41,060 --> 01:45:44,380 and $3 million, $60,000 will be coming from the Road and Bridge Fund. 1195 01:45:45,900 --> 01:45:49,220 The Road list, I'd like to just read that briefly for everyone. 1196 01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,340 We've got Campbell Road from the city of Harrison Corp. 1197 01:45:52,340 --> 01:46:00,120 to an address of 10444. We've got an entirety of Dell view road from Shea to Springdale Road on 1198 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:07,440 list. We've got Dry Ridge Road from 6404 to the Dead End, which is the vast majority of Dry Ridge Road. 1199 01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:13,260 Edgewood Road from Lee's Creek to about 500 feet north of Trailhead place. That's a northern section 1200 01:46:13,260 --> 01:46:18,500 of Edwood, Edgewood rather. Newtown Road from Bartle's Road to Ragland, which is approximately 1201 01:46:18,500 --> 01:46:24,860 two-thirds of the roadway from Newtown, Pottenger Road, Stout Road, between the Struble Road 1202 01:46:24,860 --> 01:46:29,900 and Pippin Road, and then Snider Road in both North and South sections, the North section being 1203 01:46:29,900 --> 01:46:35,820 from Bridalmager Lane to approximately 100 feet south of Pine Cove Court, and then from Cornell Road 1204 01:46:35,820 --> 01:46:41,420 to East Cover Road. If you're keeping track, I didn't list the mileage, but the total is about 1205 01:46:41,420 --> 01:46:47,580 10.5 total miles for that particular cost to be happy to answer any questions. Thank you. 1206 01:46:47,580 --> 01:46:51,960 And thank you for recognizing the employees that were out there in the scene, the cold. 1207 01:46:52,060 --> 01:46:54,860 It was so cold and it was really challenging to clear the roads. 1208 01:46:54,940 --> 01:46:58,400 I didn't get any complaints after the bad weather. 1209 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,120 I personally couldn't get up a hill in my neighborhood, but it's in the city. 1210 01:47:03,700 --> 01:47:05,360 So, and I did not complain. 1211 01:47:05,420 --> 01:47:06,660 I just waited for it to melt. 1212 01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,400 But anyway, thank you for recognizing we too want to recognize that hardware. 1213 01:47:11,020 --> 01:47:15,460 Commissioner Summer, do you want to say thank you all for bringing that up and I was going to ask 1214 01:47:15,460 --> 01:47:18,100 with the manager was and you are already told it was 10 to five. 1215 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:19,700 So thank you so much. 1216 01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:20,520 That's all I have. 1217 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:21,240 Commissioner Reese? 1218 01:47:21,460 --> 01:47:25,440 Yeah, I just want to join and thanking the staff, 1219 01:47:25,620 --> 01:47:28,440 that's out there, it's like you said, really cold. 1220 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,020 Last, now we're going to have some more cold coming up. 1221 01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,080 We're just getting into the stick of it. 1222 01:47:34,260 --> 01:47:36,160 We'll be, you know, this is our last meeting, 1223 01:47:36,380 --> 01:47:38,140 but we'll be hit January, February. 1224 01:47:38,780 --> 01:47:42,880 And last time after the salt, I don't know, 1225 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,860 they said we had some different kind of salt coming in 1226 01:47:44,860 --> 01:47:47,520 because we were at a salt, now I'm not an expert 1227 01:47:48,060 --> 01:47:50,340 on solid except seasoning for my food, 1228 01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,540 but can you, it created these, 1229 01:47:54,540 --> 01:47:56,940 not just little pot holes on me, these things were. 1230 01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:00,560 And then we created more of them, 1231 01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,500 and we had to get more people kind of out there, 1232 01:48:02,740 --> 01:48:04,320 do you, is there something different 1233 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,560 that we're gonna be able to do this time or? 1234 01:48:08,380 --> 01:48:10,140 Well, there's a number of different types 1235 01:48:10,140 --> 01:48:11,660 of salt products that are put out in the room. 1236 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,320 It's a vast majority of the attitudes 1237 01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:18,380 For that, or a colorant, and that's what we talked about, and last season we were looking at that. 1238 01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:25,500 I believe the company that we have already did from is not using that blue colorant as more of a straight non-color assault additive. 1239 01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:31,020 County engineers office typically utilizes straight road salt. 1240 01:48:31,820 --> 01:48:40,580 We have some limited pre-treatment that we do, but because of the roadway systems that we have in place, we have the ability to do more with the plow. 1241 01:48:40,580 --> 01:48:45,480 So pushing the off of the road is the first line of defense. 1242 01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:54,360 Salt is then going to clear that with a little bit of temperature and with a little bit of water actually bring it to a solution that it can actually start to begin to doing so that melting work. 1243 01:48:54,580 --> 01:48:57,720 The potholes themselves are actually created from the freeze-thaw cycle. 1244 01:48:58,380 --> 01:49:03,500 So when water infiltrates into a crack or something that's in the pavement, that's actually where we get the freeze-thaw. 1245 01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:08,420 So when we go from these really, really frigid times to these much more warmer times, that's when the damage starts to occur. 1246 01:49:08,420 --> 01:49:13,060 And that's the, so the salt won't be a preventative for that particular function. 1247 01:49:13,260 --> 01:49:17,360 That's something that we have to continue to put cold patch asphalt in place while the 1248 01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:22,160 cold season is out and then wait to come out of the thaw until we can put down a more 1249 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:28,040 formalized hard surface with, you know, a hot substance asphalt that makes sense. 1250 01:49:28,660 --> 01:49:33,100 Well, thank you for the explanation. I just, my biggest thing was we had bigger 1251 01:49:33,620 --> 01:49:39,720 pod holes and we ever had seen before and I mean these things I was like you 1252 01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:43,880 going all the way down so I didn't I know they had mentioned something was out 1253 01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:50,060 of stock or whatever I don't know whatever we can do to prevent that or 1254 01:49:50,060 --> 01:49:54,560 or in front of it I know we can't predict everything but try to be in front of it 1255 01:49:54,560 --> 01:50:00,100 because we've been doing it for years it's just last year was crazy and 1256 01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:08,040 Student temperatures. Yeah, so anyway, just wanted to highlight that. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to move that we approve of items two and three. 1257 01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:13,760 Commissioner Drey House. Yes, I'm sure some are doing this. Yes, Mr. Reese. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. 1258 01:50:13,900 --> 01:50:29,140 Thank you. All right. We're on to MSD. I'm going to ask that we move it with your difference commissioners the budgets because we've got some folks from the public that are still here waiting for this item. So these are items number 10 11 and 12. 1259 01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:35,240 so I'll learn with us. Diane is not here today but Lawrence here. Thank you for being here. 1260 01:50:35,300 --> 01:50:40,060 Please walk us through these. We've had quite a bit of conversation about the budgets and we've 1261 01:50:40,060 --> 01:50:46,480 had some public hearings. So thank you for being here. Please give us the highlights of these items. 1262 01:50:47,540 --> 01:50:50,880 Good morning, commissioners. Director Christie had a family matter this morning. 1263 01:50:50,980 --> 01:50:56,880 Couldn't be here but I'm here as well as several others from MSD to support. As you said, 1264 01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:03,620 our last three items on your general, I'm sorry, yes, regular agenda, our annual budgets and 1265 01:51:03,620 --> 01:51:09,760 rate adjustment for 2020-6, Director Christie previously presented on these and two public 1266 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:15,640 hearings have been held, so I'll just briefly summarize. For our 2020-6 operating budget 1267 01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:24,780 item 10, we're seeking an appropriation of 255,069,450 dollars. We've worked with the administration 1268 01:51:24,780 --> 01:51:36,020 to reduce this by approximately $7 million from our initial request, but are still confident that this request is sufficient to fund our daily operations in 2026. 1269 01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:43,640 Item 11 is our revised sewer rate schedule to be effective as of January 1 of 2026. 1270 01:51:44,820 --> 01:51:52,200 As we've discussed, it's meant to term in that we need a 4.5 increase in revenue to fund the district to accomplish this. 1271 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,960 We're proposing to keep all the minimum base charges flat, 1272 01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,600 surcharge, and industrial pretreatment charges. 1273 01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:00,120 We'll also not increase. 1274 01:52:00,700 --> 01:52:03,000 The only change is to our commodity charge, 1275 01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:06,120 which is the charge for water usage over 3CCF. 1276 01:52:06,300 --> 01:52:09,280 That is moving from the current two-tier declining rate 1277 01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,580 structure, where you get a cheaper rate, 1278 01:52:11,820 --> 01:52:13,100 if you use more water essentially. 1279 01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:17,200 We'll move to a single rate for all water usage 1280 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,660 over 3CCF, that is our minimum allowance. 1281 01:52:20,660 --> 01:52:27,320 and that is anticipated to generate enough revenue that is determined to be needed to fund 1282 01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:35,140 the district's activities. Moving on to the last item item 12. This is our 2026-2030 capital 1283 01:52:35,140 --> 01:52:43,580 improvement program and 2026 capital budget. The proposed capital budget for 2026 is 153 1284 01:52:43,580 --> 01:52:49,540 1,600, 4,637 dollars of that amount. 1285 01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:57,740 We are requesting a appropriation today of 84 million, 418,116 dollars. 1286 01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:02,200 We will come back as we always do throughout the year for the remainder of that budget as 1287 01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,320 these projects are ready to proceed to construction. 1288 01:53:05,140 --> 01:53:06,320 So, with that, we recommend approval. 1289 01:53:07,020 --> 01:53:09,940 Okay, thank you very much to those who are items 10, 11, and 12. 1290 01:53:09,940 --> 01:53:17,280 I just have a few comments, particularly related to the operating budget and some of the folks 1291 01:53:19,020 --> 01:53:23,440 that are the coming and testified the public hearings we heard from some of them today. 1292 01:53:24,140 --> 01:53:29,220 I just do want to note that we heard some of these concerns in our responding here in this 1293 01:53:29,220 --> 01:53:29,620 budget. 1294 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:37,400 Primary of them all is that we are keeping rates flat for residential property owners in the coming 1295 01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:45,100 year, there is a shift in how we charge individuals and corporations for the sewer system. 1296 01:53:45,900 --> 01:53:52,580 We have, when I say we, I mean MSD and us, have made an attempt here to right size that 1297 01:53:52,580 --> 01:53:58,160 so that the residential property owners are not bearing the brunt of that, but rather those 1298 01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:59,400 that use more paying more. 1299 01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:04,320 And so I am grateful for that shift, I think that's been a long time coming, I know there's 1300 01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:09,960 more to do, but I think it's good news that the rates will not increase for residents in 1301 01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:10,540 this community. 1302 01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:17,060 The other one is the impervious surface we just passed a resolution about this to make sure that 1303 01:54:17,740 --> 01:54:22,660 we hold ourselves accountable to some of the recommendations that came out of the affordability 1304 01:54:22,660 --> 01:54:23,540 task force. 1305 01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:27,720 I know there was in consensus, but there was interest about impervious surface and thinking 1306 01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:33,720 through how we can do better there to not only capture some of the stormwater that's running 1307 01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:38,820 off into the system, but also make sure that those that are responsible for that run off 1308 01:54:38,820 --> 01:54:43,780 are paying either their fair share or doing something to ameliorate, which would be better. 1309 01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:48,700 I keep that water out of the system to begin with, so I'm glad that we are moving forward on that. 1310 01:54:48,980 --> 01:54:52,940 And then the SPU program we always talk about this, but there is plenty of money in the sewer 1311 01:54:52,940 --> 01:54:58,040 backup program for relief for citizens that continue to struggle with sewer backups. We've done 1312 01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:03,140 quite a bit of prevention work. And again, I want to shout out MSD for this. It's an approach 1313 01:55:03,140 --> 01:55:09,800 that keeps sewers from backing up to begin with so that we put quite a bit of money in there from the SPU program 1314 01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:20,420 So I'm glad that that is it's a more forward-thinking kind of approach and so I'm really grateful that MSD has recommended that to us and we have approved of those shifts 1315 01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:28,500 So not much else to say about the operating budget one question about the capital budget. So we heard a 1316 01:55:28,500 --> 01:55:35,180 months ago, about an example, a thing was a treatment facility that had gone up dramatically 1317 01:55:35,180 --> 01:55:38,880 in price due to economic uncertainties and tariffs. 1318 01:55:39,820 --> 01:55:46,240 What is your forecast moving into the next year related to what is slated here for the 1319 01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:52,860 capital budget and how what's happening at the national level might negatively impact the numbers 1320 01:55:52,860 --> 01:55:54,040 that we're looking at today? 1321 01:55:54,500 --> 01:55:54,640 Sure. 1322 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:55,660 Thank you for that question. 1323 01:55:55,660 --> 01:55:59,620 and Deputy Director of Restronson is here this morning. 1324 01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,560 Ultimately, involved in the development and overseeing the implementation of our CIPs. 1325 01:56:04,580 --> 01:56:06,280 I'm going to ask him to come up and respond. 1326 01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:07,740 Thank you. 1327 01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:10,400 Thank you, Lauren. 1328 01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:11,960 Commissioners. 1329 01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:19,500 So if I heard a question correctly, what would be the impact of potential tariffs on the ACIP in the coming year? 1330 01:56:19,860 --> 01:56:24,300 So we've seen that impact already in projects that we've approved of. 1331 01:56:24,300 --> 01:56:28,400 What I'm wondering is, what is your forecast for that moving into next year? 1332 01:56:28,780 --> 01:56:34,400 We're saying closely aligned with our contractors and our consultants to understand where 1333 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,520 their cost estimates are coming for and reviewing those very closely. 1334 01:56:38,420 --> 01:56:43,180 We don't have a better crystal ball than anybody else does about those. 1335 01:56:44,060 --> 01:56:49,200 So we're keeping a very close eye on that and continuing to watch our costs and our cost estimates. 1336 01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:54,300 We don't have a workcast one way or the other besides the cost estimates that we have today. 1337 01:56:54,940 --> 01:57:02,940 We're expecting to continue to work through the uncertain times as the commissioners have mentioned that we're in those very uncertain times. 1338 01:57:03,340 --> 01:57:04,320 Okay, thank you very much. 1339 01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:18,720 And just to remind or to anybody that might be viewing this meeting, the operating budget is for the consent decree, which is an unfunded mandate from the federal government. 1340 01:57:19,220 --> 01:57:24,520 and for asset management, so making sure the system, which is over a hundred years in some 1341 01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:32,040 areas, is functioning properly and provides the utility to every single resident and every single 1342 01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:36,320 business owner in this community. So I just, just as a broad reminder of what we're doing here 1343 01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:40,920 today, this is an annual budget, we approve it every year and so that's what we're looking at. 1344 01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,780 So thank you for your response. I, I too am concerned about what's happening at the federal level, 1345 01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:49,080 but I'm glad you're all keeping an eye on it. And if you could provide us as you come in, 1346 01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:53,800 for these projects. I mean, if you're always coming in, as we need to allocate additional 1347 01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:58,520 dollars that have been budgeted but need to be allocated, I would appreciate that kind of 1348 01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:05,200 analysis as to how we're doing and if the budgets have gone up and what are the things contributing 1349 01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,960 to that because I think it's really important for us to understand. So we've been working very closely 1350 01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:14,360 with the county administration on the procedures by which we would bring those forward and highlighting 1351 01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:19,760 And the reasons for this cost increases so that we would understand, oh, that was just because 1352 01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:25,400 cost of this materials went up or because there's a particular tariff on that type of 1353 01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,120 tarry labor or stuff. 1354 01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:30,860 So we've been working closely with them that I identify and how to bring that forward as 1355 01:58:30,860 --> 01:58:31,220 those companies. 1356 01:58:31,380 --> 01:58:31,400 Yeah. 1357 01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:32,040 Okay, great. 1358 01:58:32,140 --> 01:58:33,060 Thank you very much. 1359 01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:34,440 Mr. Summer doing this. 1360 01:58:34,900 --> 01:58:36,100 Thank you. 1361 01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:37,740 I asked you a question there. 1362 01:58:37,740 --> 01:58:46,600 item 10 was good to hear about reducing the amount 7 million. And so I appreciate you working with stay 1363 01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:52,760 AF and everyone working to try to reduce. I know we'll probably see you again if you need more. 1364 01:58:52,980 --> 01:59:02,180 We oftentimes do. And then as a relates to item 12, the 84 million. I guess I'll be, and I know I will 1365 01:59:02,180 --> 01:59:10,660 for now and 26 and on, be repetitive as it relates to telling people that are listening, 1366 01:59:10,980 --> 01:59:17,480 that I'll say the life person where this money is coming from, like the 84 million, where 1367 01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:18,680 does that come from? 1368 01:59:19,740 --> 01:59:20,380 So, you understand what I'm saying? 1369 01:59:20,380 --> 01:59:21,360 Sure, it's just a joke. 1370 01:59:21,580 --> 01:59:27,360 I mean, as a, I'm thinking, you couldn't give me 100,000 for this, but it's 84 million 1371 01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:27,860 for that. 1372 01:59:27,860 --> 01:59:32,720 So, just in general, I'm going to be asking you and anybody else that comes up, where 1373 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:33,800 that money comes from. 1374 01:59:34,020 --> 01:59:35,060 So, if you could just say. 1375 01:59:35,060 --> 01:59:39,120 Yes, generally, I mean, it varies by expense, but generally, we're funding things with 1376 01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:39,520 cash. 1377 01:59:39,820 --> 01:59:43,600 We are a rate payer funded organization, restricted fund. 1378 01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:50,000 We use bond financing, we receive a lot of financial support from our state revolving loan 1379 01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:54,920 fund, WPCLF, so those are the three primary sources. 1380 01:59:56,020 --> 01:59:56,520 Okay. 1381 01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,500 reason to let people know it's not. 1382 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,260 I mean, out of our general budget, we couldn't do it before anyway, but just to let people know, this is not the money that we use to take care of your basic needs. 1383 02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:12,460 So, thank you, I appreciate it. That's all I have. 1384 02:00:12,660 --> 02:00:13,380 Thank you, commissioner. 1385 02:00:15,740 --> 02:00:17,280 Thank you. 1386 02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:25,240 Item number 10 and 11 and 12, they all kind of go together. 1387 02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:32,180 Yes, and what I'm concerned is I don't necessarily want to be on the record for any type of 1388 02:00:33,580 --> 02:00:39,580 I don't mind looking at the increase on a year by your bases, but if I go into this 2026-2030 plan 1389 02:00:39,580 --> 02:00:44,640 it does have some step-bladders in terms of the plan. 1390 02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:53,740 So that is correct. It's a five-year planning period, but we have always brought back rates every single year to look at 1391 02:00:53,740 --> 02:00:57,380 what's going on and what is needed for the district but you're right. We are looking 1392 02:00:57,380 --> 02:01:01,480 five years out in terms of our little projects and what we foresee doing and what spending 1393 02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:09,980 is associated with that. Yeah, and I'm sure saying yes to it. The other thing is I kind of want to 1394 02:01:09,980 --> 02:01:16,140 see how this plays out because we're doing a shifting this year and when you hear commercial you think 1395 02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:23,720 of it was a testimony earlier, you're thinking of the big company. But what startled me 1396 02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:26,900 when they said some restaurants could be affected. 1397 02:01:27,380 --> 02:01:29,780 So I kind of want to see how that's going to play out, 1398 02:01:29,940 --> 02:01:31,780 because I know it's up to 15%. 1399 02:01:31,780 --> 02:01:35,660 We kind of don't know yet when I was hearing. 1400 02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:40,520 Right, it very much depends on what those individual organizations, 1401 02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,400 businesses, and their water usage is, 1402 02:01:43,660 --> 02:01:45,800 and what they're paying surcharge. 1403 02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:48,420 If they haven't deduct to meter, and maybe they're using more water, 1404 02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:49,620 but they're putting it into a product. 1405 02:01:50,060 --> 02:01:51,100 So they're really charged for that. 1406 02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:53,540 It really does vary whereas with residential properties, 1407 02:01:53,540 --> 02:01:57,760 they tend to be pretty similar. And we can determine what the impact is going to be. 1408 02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:02,080 Those commercial and industrial. I mean, we can say those who are using over approximately 1409 02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:09,940 58 CCF per month are going to see an increase, but giving you a general impact or average, 1410 02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:14,660 as we're just not able to do that, or it wouldn't be meaningful at least. 1411 02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:23,520 Yeah, no, I got you. And I know they would, we have more time. They would probably be able to 1412 02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:29,360 the roses calling me saying they went out and the pizza went up and all that so let 1413 02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:34,120 um those are just kind of my concerns but I do appreciate a creativity we do have something 1414 02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:40,980 that we're going to be looking at um yeah we just passed and kind of see how that plays out 1415 02:02:40,980 --> 02:02:46,420 um but when we play these scenarios out because what we're doing is kind of a shifting I just 1416 02:02:46,420 --> 02:02:52,760 like to have all the people that not just one group that'll be affected I want to know so 1417 02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:55,380 I don't inadvertently end up hurting 1418 02:02:55,380 --> 02:02:58,400 because a lot of times this is the little guy, 1419 02:02:58,560 --> 02:02:59,080 the little guy, the little guy, 1420 02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:00,940 all day the ones that get hit, 1421 02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:03,700 the big companies, they have lawyers, 1422 02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:08,100 and they have more staff to kind of navigate it, 1423 02:03:08,180 --> 02:03:11,040 versus some of the smaller folks. 1424 02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:13,220 Okay, those are the questions I had. 1425 02:03:13,300 --> 02:03:14,040 Thank you. 1426 02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:15,220 Thank you. 1427 02:03:15,380 --> 02:03:17,340 All right, let's go ahead and take these items 1428 02:03:17,340 --> 02:03:20,580 that I'm gonna move that we approve of items 10, 11 and 12. 1429 02:03:21,220 --> 02:03:25,400 Commissioner Dree House? Yes. Commissioner Samarjumis. Commissioner Rees. 1430 02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:26,020 That's thing. 1431 02:03:28,980 --> 02:03:31,840 Okay. Let's go back to item number four. 1432 02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:38,980 Item four five and six are similar. So I'll summarize those together. They are all legislation 1433 02:03:38,980 --> 02:03:44,760 off-rise design of three sewer assessment projects. Two sewer lateral projects located at 1434 02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:52,800 five six five seven and five six two one work road and a local sewer to serve two properties on 1435 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:57,500 facilitate the elimination of the household storage treatment systems that currently serve these properties 1436 02:03:57,500 --> 02:04:04,420 and all projects have a hundred percent support of the property owners. These are all zero-dollar requests. 1437 02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:12,660 The funding necessary will be moved from the 2020-5HSTS elimination allowance. Moving on to item seven, 1438 02:04:13,020 --> 02:04:17,560 this is a resolution to cancel the Coldstream Drive and Asbury Road Local Super Project. 1439 02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:23,660 This project was initiated in 2011 by petition with 54% supports, just barely a majority. 1440 02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:28,480 We're recommending canceling the project at this point primarily due to its cost. 1441 02:04:29,060 --> 02:04:35,800 We discovered various challenges through the design phase that will result in a significant increase in construction costs, 1442 02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:42,720 including utility conflicts, necessary rock excavation, coordination with ODOT and easement appropriations. 1443 02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:53,380 We're also recommending canceling this project due to the low level of homeowner support as I said 54% at the beginning and just 51% based on a reporting performed in 2021. 1444 02:04:54,420 --> 02:05:05,500 Per Hamilton County Public Health, all of the HSTS systems are operable, except for three, those owners will need to pursue repair or replacement of their systems. 1445 02:05:05,500 --> 02:05:11,600 Item 8 is legislation to approve an intergovernmental agreement with Green Township for the 1446 02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:17,500 Wesselman Trailside sewer extension project, which is intended to expand sewer service and 1447 02:05:17,500 --> 02:05:23,600 development capacity in Green Township. Under the proposed agreement, Green Township will be funding the 1448 02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:29,570 design and construction of the project and will transfer ownership of the newly constructed sewer to the 1449 02:05:29,570 --> 02:05:31,970 be operated and maintained by MSD in the future. 1450 02:05:33,090 --> 02:05:39,470 Item 9 is to authorize an agreement with UDF, under which UDF will perform work requested by 1451 02:05:39,470 --> 02:05:45,230 MSD as part of their expansion of their operations on bridge town road in Miami Township. 1452 02:05:45,230 --> 02:05:52,130 We're requesting a appropriation of $225,000 for MSD to reimburse UDF for the actual cost 1453 02:05:52,130 --> 02:05:57,550 to relocate an existing MSD sewer to a better location for purposes of ongoing operation, 1454 02:05:57,550 --> 02:06:01,710 maintenance as well as potential expansion in the future. 1455 02:06:02,370 --> 02:06:03,730 And that is all I have. 1456 02:06:03,970 --> 02:06:04,870 Could you take any questions? 1457 02:06:06,510 --> 02:06:07,630 Thank you. 1458 02:06:08,370 --> 02:06:12,630 I would like to ask a question about item number nine. 1459 02:06:12,830 --> 02:06:15,230 Could you say I missed that one. 1460 02:06:16,390 --> 02:06:20,310 And so the cost to the utility is the 225. 1461 02:06:20,510 --> 02:06:22,310 Up to 225. 1462 02:06:22,370 --> 02:06:25,270 It will be for their actual costs of relocating that sewer, 1463 02:06:25,270 --> 02:06:27,330 which they'll submit to us. 1464 02:06:29,990 --> 02:06:30,650 Okay, all right. 1465 02:06:30,990 --> 02:06:33,470 They're asking us to move the sewer. 1466 02:06:34,810 --> 02:06:41,350 So they came to us for permits associated with their expansion of their operations at their current location on bridge town road. 1467 02:06:41,790 --> 02:06:48,350 We took a look at it and noticed that our sewer that is in that location is really not in a desirable location. 1468 02:06:48,610 --> 02:06:50,710 It's very difficult to reach and maintain. 1469 02:06:51,670 --> 02:06:57,390 So we're always looking for opportunities to collaborate and take advantage of them doing the work. 1470 02:06:57,390 --> 02:07:03,010 any way, causes less disruptions, more cost-efficient. So this will move it to a location. It's easier 1471 02:07:03,010 --> 02:07:08,550 for us to maintain. It's also much easier for us to extend in the future if there is desire to expand 1472 02:07:08,550 --> 02:07:15,290 sewer service in that area. So to be clear, it's to the benefit of MSD. Yes, to do this. I know Jim 1473 02:07:15,290 --> 02:07:19,050 Brett is here. Also from Miami Township, do you have any comment to this one? 1474 02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:25,510 Thank you. First, 1475 02:07:26,650 --> 02:07:32,750 UDF and represented as an permemesty of kept the township involved and everything. 1476 02:07:34,010 --> 02:07:44,990 We see this as a big plus or MSD for maintenance and we also see some opportunity to get some expansion in the area. 1477 02:07:45,470 --> 02:07:48,950 So, eliminate some failing on the sewage treatment system. 1478 02:07:50,030 --> 02:07:54,350 So, township is a very impovery this and just to give you any questions. 1479 02:07:54,350 --> 02:08:00,530 Okay, great. Thank you very much. Thanks for coming in. All right, commissioners any other questions. 1480 02:08:00,790 --> 02:08:01,450 No questions. 1481 02:08:03,130 --> 02:08:09,330 Okay. All right. I'm going to make a motion to approve of items four through nine. 1482 02:08:09,650 --> 02:08:09,850 Second. 1483 02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:11,230 Commissioner 3 House. 1484 02:08:11,250 --> 02:08:11,730 Yes. 1485 02:08:11,730 --> 02:08:12,730 Commissioner 3 House. 1486 02:08:12,730 --> 02:08:12,850 Yes. 1487 02:08:13,390 --> 02:08:19,210 Thank you. Thanks to the MSD team for being here. Appreciate it. Happy holidays to you all. 1488 02:08:19,210 --> 02:08:27,010 Commissioner just said the risk of blabbering things just a bit just on that 514 project. I just wanted to say just at a very high level 1489 02:08:27,010 --> 02:08:34,090 Board hasn't seen a lot of these recently, but it seems like when they come they do come in and and bunches sometimes 1490 02:08:34,090 --> 02:08:37,090 And this is as a policy has put in place years ago 1491 02:08:37,090 --> 02:08:38,850 There was a really 1492 02:08:39,910 --> 02:08:49,190 Innovative way of trying to ensure that when a private developer needs to do something that involves sewer infrastructure that this the utility was not 1493 02:08:49,210 --> 02:08:54,910 otherwise planning to do anything for. But it does serve to the benefit of the utility that 1494 02:08:54,910 --> 02:08:59,970 it allows that development to move forward and MST then reimburses the cost of it. So it was 1495 02:08:59,970 --> 02:09:04,890 something that we were needing to do anyway just wasn't on the plans. And it helps that private 1496 02:09:04,890 --> 02:09:09,150 development also helps the utility. So you could be seeing more of these. I just wanted to 1497 02:09:09,830 --> 02:09:14,650 put it out there when they do come forward. We typically call them a 514 project. So just for a future 1498 02:09:14,650 --> 02:09:19,990 I just want to make sure that the public benefit was there for that project to be part of it. 1499 02:09:20,090 --> 02:09:23,080 We are in the community and we hear from MSD. So thank you very much. 1500 02:09:23,930 --> 02:09:26,550 All right, Jeff, we're back to you with item number 13. 1501 02:09:27,090 --> 02:09:29,690 All right. I don't this is your consent agenda commissioners. 1502 02:09:30,850 --> 02:09:36,630 Item number 13 is approving the use of credit cards in the office of addiction response for 1503 02:09:36,630 --> 02:09:43,890 $20, $26, $90,000. Item number 14 is the auditor statement of financial transactions for 1504 02:09:43,890 --> 02:09:52,390 November of 2025. Item 15 is authorizing credit card use in the auditor's office for $60,000. 1505 02:09:53,390 --> 02:10:01,650 Item number 16 is the action of the administration for November of 2025. Item number 17 is a 1506 02:10:01,650 --> 02:10:10,450 resolution authorizing agreement with Tribium Interactive for $210,232. Item number 18 is authorizing 1507 02:10:10,450 --> 02:10:13,150 the administration to finalize an agreement with Mr. 1508 02:10:13,250 --> 02:10:15,070 for construction management services 1509 02:10:15,070 --> 02:10:18,710 to complete the club VT vertical transportation projects 1510 02:10:18,710 --> 02:10:20,730 down at Pekor Stadium. 1511 02:10:21,710 --> 02:10:24,930 Item 19 is authorizing the use of credit cards 1512 02:10:24,930 --> 02:10:26,850 under the Board of County Commissioners 1513 02:10:26,850 --> 02:10:28,470 for $180,000. 1514 02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:33,110 Item number 20 is authorizing the use of credit cards 1515 02:10:33,110 --> 02:10:34,890 in the Office of Media and Engagement 1516 02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:38,470 for $240,000 in 2026. 1517 02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:52,470 Item number 21 is approving the for the record the bid awards and contracts executed by the purchasing department in November of 2025 for 4.6 million dollars. 1518 02:10:52,470 --> 02:10:58,590 item 22 is a resolution establishing parking rate changes for 1519 02:10:58,590 --> 02:11:05,610 finley market garage for 2026. These are actually slight reductions in the 24-7 and 1520 02:11:05,610 --> 02:11:15,710 monthly charges at that garage. Item 23 is a resolution authorizing, I'm sorry this is the 1521 02:11:16,370 --> 02:11:21,590 authorizing the county auditor to process approved payments on behalf of the Board of County 1522 02:11:21,590 --> 02:11:31,390 commissioners. For 2026, item number 24 is an agreement with for with company. This is 1523 02:11:31,390 --> 02:11:36,870 for move services associated with the central campus project at $391,000. 1524 02:11:37,630 --> 02:11:47,130 Item 25 is then and now between the county and carousel of technology for 31,958 dollars. 1525 02:11:47,130 --> 02:11:57,830 Item 26 is an agreement with Mayor Electric for a fire alarm replacement project at great American ballpark $1.28 million. 1526 02:11:58,530 --> 02:12:05,450 Item 27 is the use of credit cards by the coroner's office in 2026 at $12,000. 1527 02:12:06,170 --> 02:12:12,330 There's also item number 28 which is also credit cards in the coroner's office for $24,000. 1528 02:12:12,330 --> 02:12:15,270 The first of those relates to fuel purchases. 1529 02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:22,950 items 29, 30, and 31 are all facade projects occurring in Springfield Township, 1530 02:12:23,110 --> 02:12:24,210 Chiviot and Wyoming. 1531 02:12:25,570 --> 02:12:29,550 Item 29 is Springfield Township for $51,000. 1532 02:12:29,550 --> 02:12:33,590 I do want to acknowledge Kathleen Kennedy being here from Springfield Township. 1533 02:12:33,650 --> 02:12:40,270 If there's any questions that the Board has, item 30 is with the City of Chiviot. 1534 02:12:40,270 --> 02:12:49,490 at 65,000 item 31 is Wyoming for 52,000 item 32 is an agreement with the Port Authority 1535 02:12:50,910 --> 02:12:57,070 for renovation and revitalization of the former Perry and Derek facility in Norwood. 1536 02:12:57,090 --> 02:13:03,710 This is for asbestos abatement and very structural upgrades to that former paint facility. 1537 02:13:03,710 --> 02:13:08,110 I believe Melissa Johnson is here, although she is over on the other side of the room. 1538 02:13:08,110 --> 02:13:12,190 If there's any questions, commissioners, that's at $755,000. 1539 02:13:13,470 --> 02:13:19,370 Item 33, commissioners is the agreement with the Hamilton County General Health District for 1540 02:13:19,370 --> 02:13:25,290 facility inspection services on behalf of the Solid Ways Management District, $339,000. 1541 02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:33,030 Item 34 is a tentative collected bargaining agreement with AFSME Field Operations in planning and development. 1542 02:13:33,030 --> 02:13:39,450 Item 35 is a resolution declaring December 26th a paid holiday of the county. 1543 02:13:40,910 --> 02:13:49,410 That's the day right after Christmas obviously, but falls on a Friday, so that would make it a seamless weekend for employees. 1544 02:13:50,370 --> 02:13:58,110 Item 36 is a resolution off these are all JFS items, authorizing an amendment to an agreement 1545 02:13:58,110 --> 02:14:04,350 with the, between the Ohio Region Workforce Investment Board in Princeton City School District 1546 02:14:04,350 --> 02:14:06,430 for Career Navigation Services. 1547 02:14:06,870 --> 02:14:09,990 I believe that's just an extension of time associated with that agreement. 1548 02:14:10,890 --> 02:14:16,610 Item 37 is an amendment for an agreement with Prestige Travel, for travel arrangement 1549 02:14:16,610 --> 02:14:18,950 and related services, $14,000. 1550 02:14:19,690 --> 02:14:25,330 Item 38 is an amendment to an agreement with Legacy Residential Home for Group Home Services 1551 02:14:25,330 --> 02:14:35,570 at $240,900 at $39 is a resolution authorizing credit cards in the Law Library for $1,700. 1552 02:14:36,710 --> 02:14:42,090 Item 40 is authorizing credit card usage in the Prosecutor's Office at $6,000. 1553 02:14:42,590 --> 02:14:48,950 Item 41 is a report on the use of detack funds in the Prosecutor's Office for 2025. 1554 02:14:50,050 --> 02:14:57,870 item 42 is a resolution authorizing the use of credit cards in the public defender's office for $85,000. 1555 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,120 And item 43 is the monthly investment report for the Treasurer, for the month of November 2025. I believe that is the consent agenda commission. 1556 02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:13,160 I don't want to miss anything. I believe it is, too. So let's just go with that. 1557 02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:28,800 So I just a couple of things. Item 22, which is the Finley Market Garage, you know, when we built this garage, it was in response to a need by FC Cincinnati, but most primarily a need from the community. 1558 02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:35,620 both for the finley market operations and the employees that work there in the vendors and the customers, 1559 02:15:36,020 --> 02:15:39,940 but also the residents that live in that area and their plenty of them and more to come. 1560 02:15:40,240 --> 02:15:42,260 And so I am glad that we are doing this. 1561 02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:45,200 I personally always felt that the rates were a little too high, 1562 02:15:46,020 --> 02:15:50,740 not by way of the transient population but rather the residents and the business owners. 1563 02:15:51,140 --> 02:15:57,120 And so I am glad we're making this adjustment to make this more accessible community asset 1564 02:15:57,120 --> 02:15:59,340 to those that live and work in that area. 1565 02:15:59,700 --> 02:16:01,980 So I appreciate the adjustment there. 1566 02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:03,820 I know it's not always easy to do that work, 1567 02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:06,260 but I think that's right, the right thing to do. 1568 02:16:07,060 --> 02:16:08,060 Under economic development, 1569 02:16:08,060 --> 02:16:10,720 29, 30, and 31, we just talked about the importance 1570 02:16:10,720 --> 02:16:14,520 of economic development and revitalization in neighborhoods. 1571 02:16:14,700 --> 02:16:16,800 And these are three pretty good examples of that 1572 02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:18,720 in Springfield, Chiviet and Wyoming, 1573 02:16:18,780 --> 02:16:20,760 so I did want to shout those out. 1574 02:16:21,620 --> 02:16:23,940 The item 32 is the Perian Derrick 1575 02:16:23,940 --> 02:16:26,660 and Norwood, Melissa Johnson is here. 1576 02:16:26,660 --> 02:16:33,020 Would you just come forward and could you just briefly describe this investment, because we talk 1577 02:16:33,020 --> 02:16:39,640 quite a bit about site readiness and getting sites available for businesses in our community 1578 02:16:39,640 --> 02:16:45,520 and government doing the work of the cleanup so that a private developer will go in and invest 1579 02:16:45,520 --> 02:16:50,900 and create jobs on these locations. So we've talked about this in terms of the budget a little bit, 1580 02:16:51,320 --> 02:16:54,280 but help us better understand the importance of this one. 1581 02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:59,280 I'm happy to, afternoon, Melissa Johnson, with the Cincinnati Port Authority, I want to start 1582 02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:02,620 up by saying that we do appreciate your acknowledgement of the priority of economic development. 1583 02:17:02,700 --> 02:17:06,980 You've continued to invest in writing the spree years. It takes time to pay dividends, 1584 02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:12,420 but it is a patient game, and we appreciate your patience in that game, but we value even 1585 02:17:12,420 --> 02:17:17,780 inside of this difficult budget that you continue to prioritize that and invest in this initiative. 1586 02:17:17,780 --> 02:17:23,040 But Perry and Derek has been a problematic property for the city of Norwood for some time. 1587 02:17:23,300 --> 02:17:29,040 Over, as they passed 12 or 15 years, it had unstable and inconsistent ownership, which resulted 1588 02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:34,520 in a need in a partnership between the port and the city of Norwood where they asked us to step in 1589 02:17:34,520 --> 02:17:35,560 and pursue ownership. 1590 02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:42,180 That ultimately was funded via a subrecipient grant from what I understand from the city of Norwood. 1591 02:17:42,180 --> 02:17:45,080 I think that we've purchased it for about 178,000. 1592 02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:50,640 I think both parties kind of recognize the importance of public ownership to reach a point 1593 02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:51,200 of stabilization. 1594 02:17:51,540 --> 02:17:53,900 So this has been a rather chronic piece of real estate. 1595 02:17:54,760 --> 02:18:00,480 Since the ports ownership, we've invested about $260,000 by demolishing three pretty unstable 1596 02:18:00,480 --> 02:18:04,660 structures on the property, which totals about just under four acres. 1597 02:18:05,420 --> 02:18:09,500 We've also tried to be creative and leverage other resources around the project, asking 1598 02:18:09,500 --> 02:18:16,000 for some technical brown field assistance from the Ohio EPA, which has funded kind of subsidized 1599 02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:19,660 if you will, directly to an environmental consultant, their work for Phase I and Phase II 1600 02:18:19,660 --> 02:18:20,340 site assessments. 1601 02:18:21,460 --> 02:18:25,600 We also had prior to the Ports ownership, the U.S. EPA invested about a million dollars 1602 02:18:25,600 --> 02:18:29,140 to remove pretty chronic hazard assistance that was throughout the property. 1603 02:18:30,140 --> 02:18:34,620 So, your funds today is truly gap funding, some of the traditional avenues that we would 1604 02:18:34,620 --> 02:18:41,180 in the Ohio Department of Development or other U.S. or Ohio EPA funds aren't directly available 1605 02:18:41,180 --> 02:18:47,280 given the timing of some of the site assessment work that was done, so your 750,000 will 1606 02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:52,240 provide a structural assessment stabilization. The removal of a specialist which will be critical 1607 02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:57,620 to moving the project forward in any railway and making development possible. From what I understand 1608 02:18:57,620 --> 02:19:03,420 the U.S. EPA did also do a conceptual plan in partnership with support and I believe the city of 1609 02:19:03,420 --> 02:19:08,480 would with a part of that process, which kind of started the conversation around like, of 1610 02:19:08,480 --> 02:19:13,080 ideas and what could this property be moving forward? So, to be transparent with you, 1611 02:19:13,140 --> 02:19:18,140 it still has a long way to go after this, but this will be, you know, I think one of the 1612 02:19:18,140 --> 02:19:22,140 the times where we do see a true need for some gap funding to kind of move it forward, 1613 02:19:22,280 --> 02:19:26,100 get over a couple of hurdles and be able to hope to find other free development funds and 1614 02:19:26,100 --> 02:19:31,280 development funds moving forward. We do have support letters from the City of Norwood and Alloy, 1615 02:19:31,280 --> 02:19:39,980 which I think maybe we're provided to you but it's I think then a long standing issue for the city of Norwood and so we're happy to be partnered with them. 1616 02:19:40,480 --> 02:19:44,960 Thank you so much for the explanation really appreciate it. Thank you. Commissioner Samarodimus. 1617 02:19:46,220 --> 02:19:50,160 I have no questions for Melissa. Or I'm finished with all of my questions. 1618 02:19:50,900 --> 02:19:53,600 Well I'm sorry. Well so far so good, right? 1619 02:19:53,860 --> 02:20:00,360 Okay. Yeah that's right. That's right. Leave the podium. Leave the podium. I have no further questions. 1620 02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:20,600 I just wanted to bring up item 26 as we look at the farm system replaced and it's just, I think, reminiscent of our commitment to follow through on upgrading facilities, not only pay core, but the very American ballfarks, so we need to do that and we're doing it. 1621 02:20:21,020 --> 02:20:31,100 Thank you, commissioners. Yes, items 29 to 31. Yeah, if you said someone who he was here from Sprinkles to 1622 02:20:33,740 --> 02:20:39,720 She come up and tell us about the facade. Oh, there she is. I'm sorry. We have this poll. So we're like is it this way? 1623 02:20:40,020 --> 02:20:43,020 Yeah, I can't talk around them. Yeah, hi there. 1624 02:20:43,020 --> 02:20:44,640 Was there a question? 1625 02:20:44,780 --> 02:20:46,660 I'm just telling us about the Fusat. 1626 02:20:46,980 --> 02:20:49,100 Will that be in Springfield Shore? 1627 02:20:50,380 --> 02:20:51,940 So Springfield Township, so I'm Kathleen Kennedy 1628 02:20:51,940 --> 02:20:53,020 and the Assistant Administrator 1629 02:20:53,020 --> 02:20:53,880 was Springfield Township. 1630 02:20:53,980 --> 02:20:56,100 Thank you, Simon, for having us. 1631 02:20:56,260 --> 02:20:58,900 And for your continued commitment to economic development 1632 02:20:58,900 --> 02:21:01,240 in the campus here in Hamilton County. 1633 02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:05,560 The $51,000 that is being recommended for award 1634 02:21:05,560 --> 02:21:07,780 to the Township would be to reinvest 1635 02:21:07,780 --> 02:21:10,500 in the facade of many of our local businesses 1636 02:21:10,500 --> 02:21:16,100 in our main business corner for in sprinkle township. So along Whitton Road, but we also have businesses 1637 02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:23,460 on Galberth Road and Daily Road and Hamilton Avenue, we're quite spread out just to continue to 1638 02:21:23,460 --> 02:21:28,820 invest in the appearance of those businesses. Great, that's what I was wondering because I was like, 1639 02:21:29,080 --> 02:21:33,780 it's spread out was not one business district, so it could be able to help multiple. So sprinkle 1640 02:21:33,780 --> 02:21:38,840 township actually already currently has something similar, so this is going to be able to 1641 02:21:38,840 --> 02:21:41,420 stretch that funding with the township even further. 1642 02:21:42,200 --> 02:21:46,480 As you can imagine, the solid improvements have become very expensive, especially if you're 1643 02:21:46,480 --> 02:21:48,840 a small business or a local business owner. 1644 02:21:49,620 --> 02:21:53,820 And so to be able to increase the funding that we have for that program and the township, 1645 02:21:53,940 --> 02:21:56,740 I'm excited to take that even further than we have in the past. 1646 02:21:57,360 --> 02:21:58,260 Thank you. 1647 02:21:58,260 --> 02:21:58,980 Thank you very much. 1648 02:22:00,160 --> 02:22:01,960 No, that's all I had. 1649 02:22:02,500 --> 02:22:04,780 Just wanted to acknowledge that again. 1650 02:22:04,780 --> 02:22:09,880 This does help like she said small businesses. They don't have the money to the outside 1651 02:22:09,880 --> 02:22:13,660 This is great and it's good to know it will be able to stretch 1652 02:22:14,360 --> 02:22:15,600 Multiple here. So 1653 02:22:16,340 --> 02:22:21,000 Happy to support them. I think this is a very good program. So 1654 02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:25,700 Okay, all right 1655 02:22:26,380 --> 02:22:34,100 I am going to make a motion that we approve of consent agenda items 13 through 43 second commissioner three 1656 02:22:34,100 --> 02:23:04,080 Yes. Yes. Mr. Samaradhuma. Yes. Commissioner Reese. Yes. Thank you. This is the last meeting of the year for us. And because of that, it is my last meeting as President. And so I just wanted to thank everyone for all the hard work over the last year. We'll be passing the gavel. If all goes as planned to commissioner Samaradhuma's in the upcoming year. So just wanted to say it's been a pleasure to serve as President. Thank you for all the work. And. 1657 02:23:04,840 --> 02:23:10,100 forward to moving into the next year. With that commissioner, I'm going to make a motion that we adjourn. 1658 02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:12,460 Be safe, second. 1659 02:23:13,760 --> 02:23:14,560 Commissioner Dree House. 1660 02:23:15,040 --> 02:23:16,160 Commissioner Dree House. 1661 02:23:16,220 --> 02:23:16,360 Yes. 1662 02:23:16,760 --> 02:23:17,400 Thank you.