1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,319 Association it was going to be an 2 00:00:01,319 --> 00:00:04,100 increase garbage contracts are typically 3 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:06,779 organized for four to five years to help 4 00:00:06,779 --> 00:00:08,639 but we have had a really good rate for a 5 00:00:08,639 --> 00:00:11,099 long year a long time our current rate 6 00:00:11,099 --> 00:00:12,599 as you can see up on the slide is 7 00:00:12,599 --> 00:00:14,340 fourteen dollars and eight cents per 8 00:00:14,340 --> 00:00:16,619 customer that is what the customers have 9 00:00:16,619 --> 00:00:21,000 been charged even after the new rate was 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,039 approved in the contract we did not pass 11 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:24,660 that on to that we are considering 12 00:00:24,660 --> 00:00:28,920 tonight our inks dollars and 90 cents 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,800 so you have two options there 14 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,219 in comparison like I said garbage has 15 00:00:35,219 --> 00:00:37,860 escalated everywhere and has escalated 16 00:00:37,860 --> 00:00:41,280 at a high rate on the dollars and 95 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,340 cents Hammond's new rate which is two 18 00:00:44,340 --> 00:00:49,579 times a week service would be 20.48 or 19 00:00:49,579 --> 00:00:52,079 20.98 on the side of the house and 20 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:54,320 rolled back in for 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,379 22.70 Jefferson Parish has two times a 22 00:00:58,379 --> 00:01:00,980 week service for a cost of 23 00:01:00,980 --> 00:01:04,680 23.90 Bossier City has once a week 24 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,960 service for a cost of twenty four 25 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,420 dollars New Orleans has once a week 26 00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:11,520 service for a cost of twenty four 27 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,640 dollars Ascension and Livingston Parish 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,840 have once a week service for a cost of 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,640 24.95 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,040 Lafayette has one time a week plus they 31 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,500 have curbside recycling one highest in 32 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:27,240 our region at two times a week 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,360 collection plus curbside recycling at 34 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,500 35.23 three cents it is my understanding 35 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:36,479 those last two communities have been 36 00:01:36,479 --> 00:01:38,159 able to maintain their curbside 37 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:40,320 recycling one because they have passed 38 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:43,439 that cost on to customers but also 39 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:44,960 because they have dedicated 40 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,880 manufacturing recycling facilities in a 41 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,180 nearby location to them that accept 42 00:01:50,180 --> 00:01:54,659 multiple types of recycled material 43 00:01:54,659 --> 00:01:56,640 some of our changes that we have had 44 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,700 with the recycling at 190 we still do 45 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:01,979 single stream which means that customers 46 00:02:01,979 --> 00:02:04,979 can bring you an entire container of 47 00:02:04,979 --> 00:02:07,680 plastics and cardboard and cereal boxes 48 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,380 and Soup cans as long as they're washed 49 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:12,480 out cleaned ready to go 50 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,940 some of our challenges have been when 51 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:17,459 customers come perhaps with bags that 52 00:02:17,459 --> 00:02:19,980 you can't see through or with they come 53 00:02:19,980 --> 00:02:22,620 with things that may be a plastic that 54 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:29,340 all of a sudden one week was recyclable and then the next time is not 55 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:31,260 able to be recycled 56 00:02:31,260 --> 00:02:33,900 so the manufacturing facilities that are 57 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:36,720 receiving the recycled materials have 58 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,760 changed kind of what they recycle at 59 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,860 different times of the years as they try 60 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:43,500 to meet their markets and their costs 61 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:44,540 prohibit 62 00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:47,879 their cost prohibitions so 63 00:02:47,879 --> 00:02:51,300 the recycling Market as a whole is a 64 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:53,580 very ever-changing Market it is a 65 00:02:53,580 --> 00:02:56,640 difficult Market to work in the cost 66 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:59,700 escalations there ever since really four 67 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:02,580 years ago when this hold started was 68 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:04,680 because China stopped accepting the 69 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,160 United States recycled materials and so 70 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,440 the threshold became okay United States 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,580 you're going to have to take care of 72 00:03:11,580 --> 00:03:13,860 your own Recycling and we didn't have 73 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:16,319 the capacity in the major facilities 74 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:18,239 across the country to even begin 75 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:19,860 undertaking that 76 00:03:19,860 --> 00:03:22,560 so it has become a much more higher bar 77 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,220 of cleanliness of no more pizza boxes 78 00:03:26,220 --> 00:03:29,340 with any sort of Grease no more you know 79 00:03:29,340 --> 00:03:31,080 soup can that kind of got only half 80 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,599 washed everything has to be entirely 81 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:36,959 washed and then marketable for those 82 00:03:36,959 --> 00:03:38,700 places 83 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:40,879 so with that said the council has 84 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:44,220 several decisions to make one do we pass 85 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:47,099 on the the total rate increase to the 86 00:03:47,099 --> 00:03:50,400 customers I was asked to look into that 87 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,260 and see if there are other communities 88 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:54,780 is there anything that prohibits us from 89 00:03:54,780 --> 00:03:57,060 subsidizing trash because I know on 90 00:03:57,060 --> 00:03:59,040 social media and other places customers 91 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,780 have asked why can't you just pay for 92 00:04:00,780 --> 00:04:02,420 the the trash 93 00:04:02,420 --> 00:04:05,760 we do not have an ordinance from the 94 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,260 quick research that we have done we do 95 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:09,000 not have an ordinance that prohibits 96 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,060 that but in best practices I did reach 97 00:04:12,060 --> 00:04:13,439 out to the Louisiana Municipal 98 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:15,540 Association they say that when you 99 00:04:15,540 --> 00:04:17,459 charge rates for services such as 100 00:04:17,459 --> 00:04:19,799 garbage Water and Sewer that you want 101 00:04:19,799 --> 00:04:24,240 those rates to handle the service that 102 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,639 way your tax dollars can go to other 103 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:28,680 investments in the community such as 104 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,139 infrastructure that's much harder to 105 00:04:31,139 --> 00:04:33,960 realize on a on a resident you know per 106 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,199 cost per resident basis you don't 107 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:39,300 necessarily charge a fee every time we 108 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:41,400 do a street Improvement or we do a park 109 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,500 Improvement we don't just add a new fee 110 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:46,139 to a customer or a resident for those 111 00:04:46,139 --> 00:04:49,620 kinds of big projects so it's it's just 112 00:04:49,620 --> 00:04:51,540 a matter of where you invest your 113 00:04:51,540 --> 00:04:53,759 dollars and and how you choose to invest 114 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:55,800 those dollars in the community 115 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,680 with the budget that we introduced to 116 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,240 you and with the budget that we had the work session on it does plan for 117 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,460 this rate increase it plans for that 118 00:05:05,460 --> 00:05:07,860 additional Revenue to come into the city 119 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:11,160 paid by the residents so if we were to 120 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,740 choose a different path we would need to 121 00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:16,740 revise the budget and we would need to 122 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:18,900 probably look at capital projects and 123 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:20,820 figure out which ones of those we might 124 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:23,699 need to shift to another fiscal year in 125 00:05:23,699 --> 00:05:27,300 order to cover that that the less amount 126 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:29,400 of Revenue that would be received 127 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,919 so right now the revenue is projected on 128 00:05:31,919 --> 00:05:34,199 this rate being covered by the customers 129 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:37,080 and then on the expenditure you know 130 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,479 just being a wash through the budget 131 00:05:39,479 --> 00:05:41,340 so if there are questions I'm happy to 132 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:44,460 answer those or comments from the public 133 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:46,860 do you have an amount for 134 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:49,620 um the the in if the city paid for it it 135 00:05:49,620 --> 00:05:51,840 would need to be in the new budget right 136 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,720 if the city covered the increase of the 137 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,220 cost you're probably looking at around 138 00:05:56,220 --> 00:05:59,639 400 to 500 000 depending on which month 139 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:01,500 and how many customers we had for that 140 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:03,300 month that would be for the whole year 141 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:05,400 though so that's a that's a Year's worth 142 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,870 of the cost increase 143 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,680 how you doing Miss spicy I'm good how 144 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,960 are you okay look as of right now so 145 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,580 it's four hundred thousand dollars that 146 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:19,080 the city will that the city would have 147 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,580 to pay from 148 00:06:20,580 --> 00:06:23,580 today on to the end of the year right to 149 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:26,880 the end of the year yes sir and that's a rough estimate because of 150 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,380 course it would be based on per customer 151 00:06:28,380 --> 00:06:31,560 per month okay so look give me a rough 152 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,919 estimate on how much the city didn't pay 153 00:06:34,919 --> 00:06:38,699 on this uh contract so far since the day 154 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:41,100 it was signed all the way up to the day 155 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:42,780 I would have to go back and look at 156 00:06:42,780 --> 00:06:44,639 exactly what date that was 157 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:46,319 but I can certainly get that information 158 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:48,900 for you it was it August was it August 159 00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:50,880 or I think it was after that I want to 160 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,680 say it was like October maybe or 161 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:58,490 November that we switched 162 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:10,430 okay 163 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,280 and something else I noticed uh 164 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,740 normally when we comparing 165 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:20,039 cities and we comparing areas 166 00:07:20,039 --> 00:07:22,979 what's the rate Ponchatoula pay for 167 00:07:22,979 --> 00:07:27,529 their garbage right now 168 00:07:27,539 --> 00:07:30,409 dollars 169 00:07:30,419 --> 00:07:31,979 okay 170 00:07:31,979 --> 00:07:34,440 what's the rate a meat pan for their 171 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,780 garbage I do not have that rate 172 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:42,720 okay because what I what I'm looking at all these here 173 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,060 different areas 174 00:07:45,060 --> 00:07:47,580 but I was looking for the areas right 175 00:07:47,580 --> 00:07:50,160 around us where the service that we had 176 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,500 at first is still being used 177 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:54,720 through those areas and normally when we 178 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,759 make decisions we kind of make decisions 179 00:07:56,759 --> 00:08:01,199 on what punchatula do uh what the parish 180 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:04,620 do and from what the knowledge that I 181 00:08:04,620 --> 00:08:07,020 have the parish in Ponchatoula still 182 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:09,000 using the old company 183 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,460 they may be the Paris service you have 184 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:13,259 the opportunity to use different 185 00:08:13,259 --> 00:08:15,000 contractors if you're outside the city 186 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,680 limits 187 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,720 and you typically if you're outside the 188 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,580 city limits only have one time a week 189 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:23,280 service not two times a week service 190 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,500 that's been unique to Hammond and 191 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:26,940 Ponchatoula 192 00:08:26,940 --> 00:08:29,280 so Ponchatoula getting one time a week 193 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,780 service I don't know if they're getting 194 00:08:30,780 --> 00:08:34,380 one time a week or two time a week 195 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:53,389 okay 196 00:08:53,399 --> 00:08:55,200 anyone else have any questions or 197 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,019 concerns on this on this matter come to 198 00:08:58,019 --> 00:08:58,920 the mic 199 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:07,009 state your name and address please 200 00:09:07,019 --> 00:09:12,540 shout out nicolosa 3607 Highway 190 West 201 00:09:12,540 --> 00:09:15,779 uh I've got a 202 00:09:15,779 --> 00:09:18,720 I have some questions but it's is this 203 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,560 the time for me to bring it out or or 204 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:25,800 that it's going to be voted on the order 205 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,600 that's going to be voted on when tonight 206 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,820 this is the public uh hearing right now 207 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:31,560 to so you can you can talk right now 208 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:35,580 this is public discussion okay well well 209 00:09:35,580 --> 00:09:37,200 the reason I'm people don't limit that 210 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,519 income 211 00:09:38,519 --> 00:09:41,220 and maybe six seven eight dollars don't 212 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:42,180 hurt 213 00:09:42,180 --> 00:09:45,480 certain people but it does hurt a lot of 214 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,660 people in in you know in the city limits 215 00:09:48,660 --> 00:09:52,140 so what I'm looking at is I know I'm 216 00:09:52,140 --> 00:09:53,880 limited on income 217 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,040 my my money's not going to be going up 218 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,060 anymore 219 00:09:57,060 --> 00:09:59,700 you know my my basic income 220 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:02,100 now according to this it's going to be 221 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:05,760 you're looking at a 30 increase 222 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,800 on on this you know going from 14 223 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,860 to 20.98 224 00:10:13,860 --> 00:10:16,740 19 20s 225 00:10:16,740 --> 00:10:20,640 yeah 20.98 so I mean you know six seven 226 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,399 eight dollars don't sound like a lot 227 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:26,040 but the city's been paying for it for 228 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,560 how long now about eight months I'm 229 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:33,839 sorry about eight months okay so I pay property tax 230 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:35,760 you know every time 231 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,620 we turn around 232 00:10:37,620 --> 00:10:40,440 you know I'm I'm I've got to pay my my 233 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,540 taxes or whatever but what I'm looking 234 00:10:42,540 --> 00:10:45,300 at is the public the people that don't 235 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:47,820 come out here you know they only got 236 00:10:47,820 --> 00:10:50,459 about maybe five or six of us here 237 00:10:50,459 --> 00:10:52,500 but I've had calls from people and 238 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:54,959 that's the thing that's frustrating is 239 00:10:54,959 --> 00:10:56,339 that they call you're going to want this 240 00:10:56,339 --> 00:10:59,160 and they want that and not and y'all ask 241 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,260 them I said come over here all you gotta 242 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:03,120 do is come here and say hello 243 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,240 so with basically what I'm looking at 244 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,220 I don't know who even brought this up 245 00:11:08,220 --> 00:11:10,560 the uh the mayor or whenever he went 246 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:16,320 into a contract and now was it up to the console to agree with 247 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,069 this 248 00:11:19,079 --> 00:11:22,560 anybody yes so y'all the council was 249 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:24,360 able to agree with it 250 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,579 or did y'all know anything about it 251 00:11:26,579 --> 00:11:30,530 before 252 00:11:30,540 --> 00:11:38,050 yep um this was presented to us back in 253 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:40,860 nothing was ever done with it 254 00:11:40,860 --> 00:11:43,680 so now it's being brought back up 255 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:47,519 okay so now the council has the option 256 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:50,220 to weather approve it or deny prove it 257 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:51,480 or deny 258 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,000 okay so what I'm looking at if it's a 30 259 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,980 increase 260 00:11:55,980 --> 00:11:58,800 you know in uh 261 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,320 would would limit an income of these 262 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,060 people in the Paris underwater city 263 00:12:03,060 --> 00:12:05,300 rather you know we're still looking at 264 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:07,260 so much 265 00:12:07,260 --> 00:12:10,500 money coming out of their pocket 266 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:13,620 Now understand certain people 267 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:17,160 figure six seven eight dollars is not a lot of money 268 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,980 but it is so I'm gonna say sixty percent 269 00:12:19,980 --> 00:12:22,620 of the people in the City of Hammond 270 00:12:22,620 --> 00:12:25,140 I know it is to me so what I like to do 271 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:27,300 I'm against it I would I would 272 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:30,600 appreciate if y'all consider looking at 273 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,240 it from the angle of the peak without 274 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,339 y'all represent 275 00:12:35,339 --> 00:12:36,720 that way 276 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,180 no one in your mind 277 00:12:39,180 --> 00:12:41,160 that you know you're making the right 278 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,440 decision I think the city has enough 279 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,399 money to continue paying for it 280 00:12:47,399 --> 00:12:54,300 now I see a laugh from Steve but but I'm asking so you tell me 281 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:56,760 it continues to pay for it then 282 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,760 something else has to go uh projects 283 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,040 infrastructure you know all you did 284 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,260 there's no new money 285 00:13:04,260 --> 00:13:06,480 it was budget was the budget was 286 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,079 approved the budget was proposed with 287 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:12,000 this slight increase 288 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,120 in there if we don't do it then that 289 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,339 means we got to cut something else which 290 00:13:17,339 --> 00:13:19,560 means somebody else is not going to get 291 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,180 something maybe in your District maybe 292 00:13:21,180 --> 00:13:23,639 in my district maybe in somebody else's 293 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:25,980 District but something 294 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:28,260 else that's going to cost about a half a 295 00:13:28,260 --> 00:13:30,720 billion dollars is going to go away some 296 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,519 service that is needed 297 00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:35,760 okay you know and the other thing that 298 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,459 remind you of do what Steve I said the 299 00:13:38,459 --> 00:13:40,079 other thing that I will just remind you 300 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:43,800 of is no matter what we do 301 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,700 you're not going to pay 14 for garbage 302 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:49,980 again unless the city picks it up and 303 00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:51,959 then something else has to go you know 304 00:13:51,959 --> 00:13:55,880 rates of a lot of things have gone up so 305 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,360 it's okay all of this was discussed 306 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,360 okay I understand it was discussed but 307 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,459 it wasn't approved by anybody 308 00:14:05,459 --> 00:14:06,779 you know 309 00:14:06,779 --> 00:14:08,519 I don't think it was even brought before 310 00:14:08,519 --> 00:14:10,800 the council if I'm not correct am I 311 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,120 correct or not 312 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,560 well I thought it wasn't brought before 313 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,620 the console so the Garbage Contract the 314 00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:22,019 new contract the new one which is what sets the price of garbage okay so 315 00:14:22,019 --> 00:14:24,600 during that discussion we knew the price 316 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,579 of garbage and what it would have to be 317 00:14:26,579 --> 00:14:28,139 raised to 318 00:14:28,139 --> 00:14:31,320 so we were well aware that garbage was 319 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,540 going to cost almost 21 dollars a month 320 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:36,839 that was discussed a lot 321 00:14:36,839 --> 00:14:40,199 the increase was not presented at that 322 00:14:40,199 --> 00:14:42,240 time this is the first time that the 323 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,180 increase basically taking what the 324 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:48,240 citizens pay all of us pay increasing it 325 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,339 by six dollars seven dollars this is 326 00:14:50,339 --> 00:14:55,199 tonight is the first time that we've voted on that 327 00:14:55,199 --> 00:14:57,600 but the increase in the rate that the 328 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,959 city pays was back in September October 329 00:15:00,959 --> 00:15:02,760 and that was approved by who this 330 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,079 Council 331 00:15:04,079 --> 00:15:07,680 ah okay I just wanted to make sure I 332 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,019 just want to clarify that is that the 333 00:15:10,019 --> 00:15:12,480 current calculation of what you're 334 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,300 paying right now was off of a contract 335 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:18,420 that had another 18 months or so left on 336 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:20,639 it that was terminated 337 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:23,880 without me knowing I did not I did I did 338 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,980 not support the determination of that it 339 00:15:25,980 --> 00:15:27,480 was terminated 340 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,940 and then presented to the council at 341 00:15:29,940 --> 00:15:33,720 that point had knew we had no garbage in 342 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,459 place because a good contract was 343 00:15:35,459 --> 00:15:37,620 already terminated so therefore we were 344 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:40,980 placed with what we have now and 345 00:15:40,980 --> 00:15:43,620 therefore when that was we voted to 346 00:15:43,620 --> 00:15:45,360 approve that company because it was the 347 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,060 cheapest that company after the contract 348 00:15:48,060 --> 00:15:49,620 that we already had right now was 349 00:15:49,620 --> 00:15:52,560 terminated not not I was not a support 350 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,540 of that I was in a sport that I did not 351 00:15:54,540 --> 00:15:56,399 know about it so I want to clear that up 352 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:59,459 and then so now this whole time the rate 353 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:01,860 does not go the rate was not adjusted or 354 00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:03,959 talked about going to affect being 355 00:16:03,959 --> 00:16:08,220 increased until now so therefore it went 356 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:10,620 into place we voted on a contract but as 357 00:16:10,620 --> 00:16:12,540 far as the money goes that was not 358 00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:15,839 presented to us to to implement the 359 00:16:15,839 --> 00:16:19,500 increase to the people until now 360 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:25,740 so that's that's the story with the old uh it was called Waste 361 00:16:25,740 --> 00:16:28,680 Management yeah 362 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,740 I am waste waste management 363 00:16:31,740 --> 00:16:33,779 that was the old contract and the mayor 364 00:16:33,779 --> 00:16:35,459 went on and just canceled out and 365 00:16:35,459 --> 00:16:38,459 renewed a new one with Waste Pro is that 366 00:16:38,459 --> 00:16:41,820 correct yeah 367 00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:44,339 termination was by the mayor's office on 368 00:16:44,339 --> 00:16:45,300 the 369 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,519 current on the on the calculation that 370 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:49,139 you have right now your bill right now 371 00:16:49,139 --> 00:16:50,399 is calculated off of the previous 372 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:56,150 contract uh and and so yeah 373 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,160 well what I would like to consider with 374 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,560 the Constitution think about your people 375 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,260 that's not uh you know not as well 376 00:17:04,260 --> 00:17:07,319 there's a lot of other people and uh you 377 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,720 know working in in the City of Hammond 378 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,040 uh 379 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,339 we just need a little bit more lenient 380 00:17:14,339 --> 00:17:17,640 from the council to represent the people 381 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,919 and six to seven dollars is a lot of 382 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:22,559 money for some people so I'm here asking 383 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:25,380 that y'all consider that I'm against it 384 00:17:25,380 --> 00:17:28,740 and I've had 20 calls and I'm just 385 00:17:28,740 --> 00:17:31,200 expressing what they're telling me so if 386 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,700 anybody in the audience says there's a 387 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:47,150 thing to say you're welcome thank you 388 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,140 good evening good evening council 389 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:51,660 president Council Administration and 390 00:17:51,660 --> 00:17:54,360 everyone Tracy Washington Wells 610 391 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:56,760 Mooney Avenue 392 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,640 and while I appreciate the garbage 393 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,679 comparisons that the Administration has 394 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:04,080 presented to you all you represent your 395 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,340 districts here 396 00:18:05,340 --> 00:18:09,059 you voted for this uh contract to go 397 00:18:09,059 --> 00:18:11,179 into place in September of last year 398 00:18:11,179 --> 00:18:15,059 minus one vote by my councilman 399 00:18:15,059 --> 00:18:17,340 um who was against it 400 00:18:17,340 --> 00:18:19,980 I can only speak on behalf of what I 401 00:18:19,980 --> 00:18:22,679 know occurs in the district I live which 402 00:18:22,679 --> 00:18:26,580 is District 3. and according to a grant 403 00:18:26,580 --> 00:18:29,280 that was funded to the City of Hammond 404 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,919 we are 405 00:18:30,919 --> 00:18:36,539 96.4 3 low to moderate income seven 406 00:18:36,539 --> 00:18:38,640 dollars may not seem and I'm saying 407 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,320 seven because it was six thousand nine 408 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,600 eight cents may not seem like a lot to 409 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,820 you but for someone that may be their 410 00:18:44,820 --> 00:18:47,700 medicine there may be bread and with the 411 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:49,679 day's prices it may not even cover the 412 00:18:49,679 --> 00:18:50,700 eggs 413 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:53,460 so I asked you to consider your 414 00:18:53,460 --> 00:18:56,039 representatives that elected you I was 415 00:18:56,039 --> 00:18:58,260 at the budget work session and I don't 416 00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:02,280 recall hearing and if it was said and I 417 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,080 did hear it excuse me but I don't recall 418 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,419 hearing that this was part of the budget 419 00:19:06,419 --> 00:19:07,380 already 420 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:09,660 you guys are getting ready to approve a 421 00:19:09,660 --> 00:19:12,419 2.3 million dollar project out by the 422 00:19:12,419 --> 00:19:15,299 airport and there are other issues and 423 00:19:15,299 --> 00:19:18,600 concerns but I don't think that seven 424 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,720 dollars passed on to us the citizens 425 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,260 should be voted for because although you 426 00:19:25,260 --> 00:19:27,179 have voted for a contract the way that 427 00:19:27,179 --> 00:19:29,039 it was done 428 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:31,799 it was not Kosher you all didn't have an 429 00:19:31,799 --> 00:19:33,900 opportunity to decide whether or not you 430 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:36,179 wanted a new contract that contract was 431 00:19:36,179 --> 00:19:38,520 canceled without your approval so you 432 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,299 really was put behind already so I'm 433 00:19:42,299 --> 00:19:44,580 asking you and you may not have 434 00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:46,440 representation here tonight but I 435 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,179 guarantee when they get that new bill 436 00:19:48,179 --> 00:19:50,340 and there's a twenty dollar charge 437 00:19:50,340 --> 00:19:53,039 you're going to be getting phone calls 438 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:59,090 thank you 439 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:07,190 is there anyone else 440 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,299 Hamilton City Council regular agenda 441 00:20:09,299 --> 00:20:10,799 session 442 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:14,220 June 13 2023 443 00:20:14,220 --> 00:20:17,100 5 53 P.M 444 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,740 roll call please councilman Andrews 445 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:22,220 president councilman divitario president 446 00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:24,059 councilwoman Gonzalez president 447 00:20:24,059 --> 00:20:26,220 councilman Leon president councilman 448 00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:28,860 Wells here 449 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:30,310 our prayer please 450 00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:33,179 [Applause] 451 00:20:33,179 --> 00:20:34,980 oh 452 00:20:34,980 --> 00:20:36,840 what's gracious love Eternal Father we 453 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,520 thank you on today Father God we give 454 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,900 you the glory and honor that is due your 455 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:41,700 name father come right now thanking you 456 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:43,440 for your darling son who died in our 457 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,480 place just to cover our sins and for 458 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,460 that we're eternally grateful father God 459 00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:49,020 we come asking right now that everything 460 00:20:49,020 --> 00:20:50,880 that seemed to be done decent ought to 461 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,860 pleasing and in your sight therefore you 462 00:20:52,860 --> 00:20:54,480 would get all glory all honor and all 463 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,400 praise father God actually continue to 464 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,960 cover us and keep us and protect us from 465 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,880 all hurt harm and danger continue to 466 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,200 bless this counsel continue to bless 467 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,059 their families continue to bless the 468 00:21:03,059 --> 00:21:04,559 districts in which they serve and 469 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:05,760 represent right now and we actually 470 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,000 should continue to bless our city 471 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,200 Administration continue to bless our 472 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,580 fire department our Police Department 473 00:21:11,580 --> 00:21:13,500 continue to cover all of our city 474 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:15,900 employees father feds every time we need 475 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:17,880 you we need you right now so we have to 476 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,380 continue to look down upon to continue 477 00:21:19,380 --> 00:21:21,059 to guide us and keep us continuing to 478 00:21:21,059 --> 00:21:22,679 govern us through this meeting therefore 479 00:21:22,679 --> 00:21:24,660 you will get all glory all honor and all 480 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:28,860 praise in Jesus name we pray amen 481 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:30,600 all right for our Pledge of Allegiance I 482 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,280 ask that all veterans and active 483 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,559 military please properly render the 484 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:35,820 proper salute 485 00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:38,820 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 486 00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:41,220 United States of America and to the 487 00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:43,799 Republic for which it stands one nation 488 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:46,799 under God indivisible with liberty and 489 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,340 justice for all 490 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:53,470 right 491 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,159 can I get approval of our minutes from 492 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:59,640 May 23rd 2023 please 493 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,950 make a motion to approve second 494 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,760 councilman Andrews 495 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,620 aye councilman divitaria aye 496 00:22:07,620 --> 00:22:09,659 councilwoman Gonzalez aye councilman 497 00:22:09,659 --> 00:22:15,409 Leon aye councilman Wales abstain 498 00:22:15,419 --> 00:22:17,940 all right final adoption of ordinance 499 00:22:17,940 --> 00:22:19,500 number one 500 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:21,600 final adoption of an ordinance to 501 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,880 increase the monthly garbage fee from 502 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:32,270 1408 to 20.98 Lacey Landrum 503 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,200 this is the same that we just discussed 504 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,059 so if there's any additional questions 505 00:22:36,059 --> 00:22:37,980 or comments I have a question about the 506 00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:39,360 recycling 507 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:40,740 um 508 00:22:40,740 --> 00:22:43,500 the document attached if we did not do 509 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:47,179 the recycling then that would be 510 00:22:47,179 --> 00:22:50,760 6.48 is that right and 40 cents and 40 511 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,440 cents and um I I have quite a few people 512 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,179 in my district who reach out they use 513 00:22:57,179 --> 00:22:59,960 the the City Recycling 514 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,000 I'm sensitive to the rate increase issue 515 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,120 obviously that recyclops that was going 516 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,120 around a while I'd love to see I'll 517 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:10,620 reach out to them see if they are still 518 00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:12,480 waiting to get 100 people signed up 519 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,700 because people who want recycling they 520 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:16,380 may pay the hundred dollars a year to 521 00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:19,380 get recycling there so to me that makes 522 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:22,860 sense to at least take that off because 523 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:24,240 we don't know for sure where that 524 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,860 recycling is going if it's cost 525 00:23:25,860 --> 00:23:28,620 effective and actually environmentally 526 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:29,760 effective 527 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,520 that's just we had a little discussion 528 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,600 about Recycling and that's how I feel if anybody else has an issue with 529 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,580 recycling 530 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:39,960 um I brought it up I think a while back 531 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:46,020 I think you were going to check into the comments that were made about 532 00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:51,600 probably about 90 percent of the uh recycling is going to the dump 533 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,820 you know and and so that was that was 534 00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:55,919 said one of the other uh when we voted 535 00:23:55,919 --> 00:23:58,260 on the previous contract 536 00:23:58,260 --> 00:24:01,500 um approval and that was kind of 537 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:04,919 um while my uh position was the way it 538 00:24:04,919 --> 00:24:05,900 was about 539 00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:08,700 not supporting that if we were double 540 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:10,500 paying for that and just doing the roll 541 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,840 away at a better cost 542 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,940 at that time whenever we voted on the 543 00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:18,539 previous contract so if that's the case 544 00:24:18,539 --> 00:24:20,280 you know we kind of really need to know 545 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,380 that and I think the people 546 00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:25,320 who uh are rethinking they're recycling 547 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,620 you know no no what's going on and and 548 00:24:28,620 --> 00:24:31,200 if and if that isn't 549 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,900 um approved or chosen that that the 550 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,179 reason being is that it's it's not a 551 00:24:36,179 --> 00:24:38,820 it's not as good as it sounds 552 00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:41,460 um and so it's not that it's a hand tie 553 00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:48,299 or against recycling it's more so of a uh cost matter and pretty much not 554 00:24:48,299 --> 00:24:52,740 being taken advantage of pretty much so yeah I think it's a compounding 555 00:24:52,740 --> 00:24:55,740 effect I think you're right I 556 00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:58,440 as we've had lots of discussions over 557 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,539 the past years the entire recycling 558 00:25:00,539 --> 00:25:03,000 Market the the bottom has fallen out of 559 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,120 it is no longer marketable for a lot of 560 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,460 companies to recycle because the goods 561 00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:09,960 and services I don't think a lot of 562 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,120 people knew that your goods and services 563 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:14,280 that were recycled here in the United 564 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,080 States you think that they go to find a 565 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,539 home as a new plastic bottle or as a new 566 00:25:18,539 --> 00:25:20,640 glass something or whatever that's 567 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,140 actually not what was happening at all 568 00:25:22,140 --> 00:25:23,640 they were getting shipped over to China 569 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,620 and India and who knows what was 570 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:28,020 happening at that point our other 571 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:30,720 challenge is that our we've had several 572 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,760 conversations with different providers 573 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,700 about a percentage can we get a 574 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:37,500 percentage or can we get a tonnage or 575 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:40,020 can we get some kind of verification and 576 00:25:40,020 --> 00:25:41,700 what we keep getting are a lot of 577 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:45,000 different answers we get that oh yeah 578 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,620 well this week was really good for 579 00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:48,240 cardboard and this week they didn't 580 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,520 accept the Plastics or this one they had 581 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,080 to throw away this part but they 582 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,720 recycled this part and so we're not 583 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,460 getting straight answers and I don't 584 00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:58,740 feel like it's a good value to the 585 00:25:58,740 --> 00:26:01,500 taxpayers until you can get that kind of 586 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:04,200 well maybe maybe work maybe we need to 587 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,059 go more toward just you know looking at 588 00:26:06,059 --> 00:26:09,600 a third party option and and a and and 589 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,080 promoting it to the people 590 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,140 um so they know that we are pushing 591 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:18,360 recycling but 592 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,520 um through a different company that they 593 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,059 have an option to go with and and and 594 00:26:23,059 --> 00:26:26,220 organize their their recycling through 595 00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:27,840 them and I'm sure there's a lot of 596 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,760 companies out there I'm sure 597 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,740 um that do that like Carly said they had 598 00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:33,000 one that came in I think a while back 599 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,760 over here and uh you know not pushing 600 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,380 him but I'm sure there's a lot of 601 00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:39,299 options out there that we may need to 602 00:26:39,299 --> 00:26:42,659 research to to send notice out to to 603 00:26:42,659 --> 00:26:44,760 people in the community for the 604 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,769 recycling 605 00:26:48,779 --> 00:26:52,320 the only other thing I want to add is um 606 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,140 if we if the if the increase doesn't 607 00:26:55,140 --> 00:26:58,260 pass then we're looking to add the city 608 00:26:58,260 --> 00:27:00,419 taxpayers to pay four to five hundred 609 00:27:00,419 --> 00:27:02,220 thousand dollars a year just subsidized 610 00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:03,179 garbage 611 00:27:03,179 --> 00:27:06,539 from about October 1st to the end of 612 00:27:06,539 --> 00:27:08,520 this month the city will have paid 613 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,220 around 300 to 330 000 of taxpayer money 614 00:27:13,220 --> 00:27:16,080 subsidizing the cost of the garbage 615 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,080 it's a yearly it's a yearly it's a 616 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,539 yearly cost and every you know we we 617 00:27:21,539 --> 00:27:25,080 spend our budget work sessions and we 618 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,580 have so many 619 00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:30,179 um so I I just don't I don't know how we 620 00:27:30,179 --> 00:27:32,039 don't pass this on to the customers 621 00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:33,779 because 622 00:27:33,779 --> 00:27:35,940 we're looking at half a million dollars 623 00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:38,700 every year in our budget to pay for just 624 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:40,860 a portion of garbage it's not even all 625 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:42,240 of garbage it's not like we're offering 626 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,919 free garbage to everyone we're just 627 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:45,120 offering 628 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,299 a part of your garbage 629 00:27:47,299 --> 00:27:49,200 that doesn't seem like a good deal to 630 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,059 anybody quite quite honestly in my 631 00:27:51,059 --> 00:27:52,320 opinion and it's not going to go back 632 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,539 down it's not going to go back down it's 633 00:27:54,539 --> 00:27:55,440 not like we're going to be able to 634 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,659 handle this for a couple of years and 635 00:27:57,659 --> 00:28:00,960 then and then it'll go back down to 14. 636 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,520 um I mean I don't obviously don't have a looking glass or I can tell where that 637 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,100 that's true or not but none of us can 638 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:09,360 imagine that prices are going to go back 639 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,220 down so 640 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:14,460 um I just we're gonna consistently 641 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:18,600 add money taxpayer money to subsidizing 642 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,000 garbage every single year when we 643 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,679 already have a tight budget it doesn't 644 00:28:22,679 --> 00:28:28,850 seem like good use of tax dollars to me 645 00:28:28,860 --> 00:28:32,880 oh one minute please oh 646 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,860 I'm trying my best not to say nothing 647 00:28:34,860 --> 00:28:36,539 about this 648 00:28:36,539 --> 00:28:39,960 because what's going to take place 649 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,840 we already see what district will be 650 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,480 affected by because of the conversation 651 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,299 that started off that 652 00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:50,159 the districts 653 00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:52,860 gonna end up being affected 654 00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:56,400 by the capital lay projects 655 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,200 and 656 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,840 we wasn't concerned about this budget 657 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,080 when we gave that raise out and then 658 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,080 that in the budget right now we're still 659 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120 looking at a two percent raise when we 660 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,940 just gave our a humongous race 661 00:29:11,940 --> 00:29:14,159 and what nothing said 662 00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:15,720 and 663 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,659 everything we do 664 00:29:18,659 --> 00:29:21,179 it affects the taxpayer 665 00:29:21,179 --> 00:29:23,940 so we just can't be concerned about one 666 00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:26,580 thing let's look at everything the 667 00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:30,120 railroad spur it affects the taxpayer 668 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,039 so everything we do paying uh 669 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,080 helped me out when we was paying the 670 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,940 bill where you can go get your driving 671 00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:41,220 license you've been paying that bill for 672 00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:44,159 20 years the taxpayers 673 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:46,080 that's coming out 674 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,659 of the taxpayers money and what nothing 675 00:29:48,659 --> 00:29:51,240 said about that and look we eliminate 676 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,320 that 677 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,779 the railroad spur is paying for itself 678 00:29:54,779 --> 00:29:58,260 now when it was the taxpayer so when we 679 00:29:58,260 --> 00:30:00,840 talk let's talk about the whole 680 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,440 the taxpayers are not able yes some of 681 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,480 us up here is able and I'm not gonna you 682 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,240 know I can't lie yeah I'm able to pay it 683 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,340 but what about my neighbor 684 00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:13,919 what about my aunt what about my brother 685 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:16,200 what about my grandmother what about my 686 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,520 sister 687 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,000 Hammond the people don't make no money 688 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,980 no they're not able to pay it they'll go 689 00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:24,299 to the store and buy some tennis shoes 690 00:30:24,299 --> 00:30:26,700 now but they bought what they want but 691 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,880 they still not able to pay these fees 692 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,000 just because we throw it up on no we 693 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,159 have to be considerate every time we 694 00:30:35,159 --> 00:30:39,000 vote on everything because it do have an 695 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,500 impact 696 00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:43,380 on the taxpayers so let's be considerate 697 00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:45,720 we pretty much know 698 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,640 how a person's gonna do already because 699 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,620 they district is covered 700 00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:52,980 the infrastructure is short in my 701 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:55,679 district the sidewalks it's short in my 702 00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:57,419 district I'll tell you what's short the 703 00:30:57,419 --> 00:30:59,580 damn part what I want the kids to play 704 00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:02,340 in it's short in my district yeah I 705 00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:05,039 can't bite my tongue District 3 is 706 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:06,480 coming up short 707 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,120 every time you spend one dollar you'll 708 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,620 spend a hundred thousand dollars in 709 00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:12,419 another District that ain't nobody 710 00:31:12,419 --> 00:31:15,360 talking about doing the budget 711 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,279 nobody have nothing to say because they 712 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:18,600 District are already getting everything 713 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880 I have a lot to say because my district 714 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,399 started coming up short doing this here 715 00:31:23,399 --> 00:31:25,740 when the night over with y'all don't see 716 00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:29,399 it yeah it's gonna affect District three because 717 00:31:29,399 --> 00:31:31,380 you know why District three got a 718 00:31:31,380 --> 00:31:33,779 representative they're gonna talk for 719 00:31:33,779 --> 00:31:36,299 other people not for me for the people 720 00:31:36,299 --> 00:31:39,000 District three have a lot of poor people 721 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,039 in the area 722 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:43,500 so the garbage 723 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:47,279 it gonna hurt us and you're gonna see 724 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:50,159 when the next item come up item two 725 00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:52,620 now we finna give garbage away and who 726 00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:55,700 paying for that the taxpayers 727 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,380 and and I want to say you know and while 728 00:31:58,380 --> 00:31:59,940 we're here today is 729 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:03,179 you know there's no worry to say it but 730 00:32:03,179 --> 00:32:05,700 just some some some poor decisions and 731 00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:07,380 then now now here we are faced with 732 00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:09,539 discussing this increase on 30 percent 733 00:32:09,539 --> 00:32:11,760 so this should have been taking place 734 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,640 when the decision was made to terminate 735 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,460 the current the previous contract at 736 00:32:17,460 --> 00:32:19,799 that price and negotiate a plan that 737 00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,860 would not hit the the residents by a 30 738 00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:25,620 increase they weren't they we still had 739 00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:28,500 an 18 months left on that contract they 740 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:30,120 could have negotiated additional 741 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,340 extension for a two dollar give them 742 00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:33,899 their two dollars and get another four 743 00:32:33,899 --> 00:32:36,539 years or whatever and and things could 744 00:32:36,539 --> 00:32:37,620 have been handled a little differently 745 00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:40,620 at that point in time and and I wasn't a 746 00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:42,419 part of that decision and so therefore 747 00:32:42,419 --> 00:32:45,779 here we are now facing this issue right 748 00:32:45,779 --> 00:32:48,659 here and so it's tax dollars it's tax 749 00:32:48,659 --> 00:32:50,820 dollars tax dollars taxpayers been 750 00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:51,779 paying it 751 00:32:51,779 --> 00:32:54,179 from when the decision was made 752 00:32:54,179 --> 00:32:57,419 and uh you know and if and if the people 753 00:32:57,419 --> 00:32:59,760 pay and it's still taxes it's increased 754 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:09,649 on taxes so 755 00:33:09,659 --> 00:33:11,520 my name is Maria hunt 756 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,320 um 757 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,179 14032 Country Manor Road Hammond 758 00:33:15,179 --> 00:33:16,340 Louisiana 759 00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:19,140 70403 that's my old address my new 760 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:20,460 address I wouldn't 761 00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:22,860 I wish not to say what it is is that 762 00:33:22,860 --> 00:33:25,559 okay that's okay thank you 763 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:26,220 um 764 00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:29,340 you know y'all talking about the the 765 00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:31,740 garbage fee going up but I never heard 766 00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:34,799 the causes and conditions why what is 767 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:36,960 the basic you know 768 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,899 why you know it's a landfill demanding 769 00:33:39,899 --> 00:33:42,600 money or the employees demanding money 770 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,940 um why is it going up what is the cause 771 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:46,740 and conditions you know getting down to 772 00:33:46,740 --> 00:33:49,260 the root of the problem you know 773 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:52,080 um I didn't hear that if y'all said it 774 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,360 and I missed it I'm sorry you know 775 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,580 um also I was looking at the resolutions 776 00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:59,159 I don't know if y'all go over them you 777 00:33:59,159 --> 00:34:02,700 know but serving alcohol from 7 30 to 11 778 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,399 A.M I think that's why the police 779 00:34:05,399 --> 00:34:08,580 department needs both proof vests 780 00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:11,099 everybody's loaded and rocking in the 781 00:34:11,099 --> 00:34:12,540 street I mean what's with 782 00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:15,060 the hall and the open containers and all 783 00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:18,599 this stuff you know that that's like you 784 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:22,200 know the drug and alcohol world is being 785 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,960 praised you know at a walk and run 786 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,119 they're going to serve alcohol in the 787 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,240 morning from 7 30 to 11 A.M and like I 788 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,339 said you know I hope the police 789 00:34:32,339 --> 00:34:35,339 department get that ball for proof fast 790 00:34:35,339 --> 00:34:37,500 so um 791 00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:40,500 thank you and for letting me be here and 792 00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:44,220 share and I hope everything works out 793 00:34:44,220 --> 00:34:50,389 thank you 794 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,440 good evening everyone good evening 795 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:59,810 Dangerfield 314 Wilbur Dangerfield Drive 796 00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:02,580 I understand what this lady is talking 797 00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:05,940 about the Chinese thing 798 00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,859 I've been hearing on the news about the 799 00:35:07,859 --> 00:35:10,079 robot thing for the for the recycling 800 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,890 and all that 801 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:15,300 but yeah we coming up short 802 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:19,560 we always come up short in our district 803 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,260 but I told the councilman I was going to 804 00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:24,480 work with him 805 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,359 to get some of the things that I think 806 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:30,829 the community needs 807 00:35:30,839 --> 00:35:34,670 now you people in a hard spot 808 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,599 it ain't gonna be just gonna get some 809 00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:38,940 telephone calls when the people look 810 00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:40,980 down at they bill 811 00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:43,380 and see this increase 812 00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:45,900 they already know they can't afford 813 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:50,329 and they're gonna say why me 814 00:35:50,339 --> 00:35:53,700 now y'all got to come over to answers 815 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:55,200 because they gonna come up with the 816 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,359 votes 817 00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:59,460 and believe me don't 818 00:35:59,460 --> 00:36:02,280 nothing bring a person out 819 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,870 then affecting his pocketbook 820 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,900 so 821 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:09,480 should have been handled different 822 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,099 I don't know why they changed from the 823 00:36:11,099 --> 00:36:13,320 old uh the old the old garbage 824 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,359 collection service 825 00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:16,800 I mean I actually see the guys coming 826 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,900 along get the garbage just fine 827 00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,420 maybe somebody didn't like what the 828 00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:23,480 people were doing 829 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,160 you know why councilman you know why 830 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,920 Council y'all let us know why but the 831 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560 problem is right now it's just like a 832 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,820 church mouse 833 00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:36,000 if you talk you're gonna get punished so 834 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,440 everybody gonna say nothing right now 835 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,540 you ain't gonna get nobody to talk 836 00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:44,329 well I'm gonna tell you like this here 837 00:36:44,339 --> 00:36:46,980 I don't want to be 838 00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:48,960 and a whole lot of people that can't pay 839 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,160 it 840 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,859 you're gonna hurt them people 841 00:36:52,859 --> 00:36:55,560 like you said ain't nothing going down 842 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,920 no more y'all if things going up 843 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,770 internet what y'all gonna do about it 844 00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:05,460 thank you for your time 845 00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:11,099 thank you uh I'm gonna say this here 846 00:37:11,099 --> 00:37:13,560 about the garbage 847 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,920 what the administration don't realize 848 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,579 the councilman control the budget 849 00:37:20,579 --> 00:37:22,260 the councilman 850 00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:24,359 forgot what they supposed to do they 851 00:37:24,359 --> 00:37:26,760 gonna control the budget so if something 852 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,140 they don't like 853 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:30,660 they can always say we don't want that 854 00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:32,400 that's what the councilman don't realize 855 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,619 the administration don't run the budget 856 00:37:34,619 --> 00:37:36,660 the administration set the budget out 857 00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:38,520 and it's up to the councilman to approve 858 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,140 the budget so 859 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:42,599 it ain't like your hands tied so you 860 00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:44,099 don't have to sit on your hands up here 861 00:37:44,099 --> 00:37:46,800 acting like they tired we control the 862 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,599 budget 863 00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:50,579 and that's what the city don't realize 864 00:37:50,579 --> 00:37:53,640 and if you look around you from New 865 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,119 Orleans to Bogalusa the councilman 866 00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:58,980 control the budget 867 00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:01,740 not the man not the administration the 868 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:03,900 councilman control the budget the 869 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,339 councilman is the one made sure the 870 00:38:05,339 --> 00:38:06,960 police got a raise 871 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,940 the councilman made sure that the city 872 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:10,500 workers got a raise 873 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:12,660 the councilman did that so the 874 00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:15,420 councilman we control the budget so 875 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:19,140 don't set up here and not be afraid 876 00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:20,820 well you know what's right you know 877 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:23,460 what's wrong so don't sit here and sugar 878 00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:24,900 coat nothing 879 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:29,520 and act like six dollars and 80 cent is 880 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,900 no money 881 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:34,140 so let's do our job and what the people 882 00:38:34,140 --> 00:38:38,940 picked us to do that's why all of us 883 00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:41,940 was able to come back up here because of 884 00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:43,500 the people 885 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:50,050 let's do our job 886 00:38:50,060 --> 00:38:54,890 good afternoon 887 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,540 director Administration you know I 888 00:38:57,540 --> 00:38:59,880 really said I was not gonna say anything 889 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,099 but 890 00:39:02,099 --> 00:39:05,040 when I first came in and I sat down 891 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,780 after a few minutes I wanted to walk 892 00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:09,119 back out the door 893 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,780 My grandmother used to tell me time 894 00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:17,930 brings on a change 895 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:20,099 and 896 00:39:20,099 --> 00:39:22,680 nothing is going to stay the same I 897 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,619 remember when I could take a quarter and 898 00:39:25,619 --> 00:39:28,700 buy a bag of potato chips a candy bar 899 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:31,980 some Moon cookies some two for a penny 900 00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:35,400 candy and a cold drink but I can't do 901 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,579 that now because everything has gone up 902 00:39:38,579 --> 00:39:42,480 it's not my fault it's gone up it's not 903 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,880 the council fault it's gone up it's not 904 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,579 the mirror fault it's nobody's fault it 905 00:39:47,579 --> 00:39:50,240 is just government it's just inflation 906 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:53,099 period there's nothing we could do about 907 00:39:53,099 --> 00:39:56,579 it but the one thing that we keep on 908 00:39:56,579 --> 00:39:58,859 doing I'm talking about this city 909 00:39:58,859 --> 00:40:04,020 council is the bickering and Madison and 910 00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:06,540 back and forth and she got this and they 911 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:09,359 got that and we ain't got this if if we 912 00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:11,460 work together 913 00:40:11,460 --> 00:40:14,460 if we would just work together and come 914 00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:17,460 together instead of always pointing the 915 00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:19,980 finger blame blame we could get 916 00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:23,820 somewhere as far as the garbage is man 917 00:40:23,820 --> 00:40:26,700 if people if people don't want the 918 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:30,300 garbage piled up outside they will pay 919 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:31,320 it 920 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,380 if they if it and it and and the one 921 00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:36,060 thing that this counselor should be 922 00:40:36,060 --> 00:40:38,400 doing instead of bickering against each 923 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,359 other figuring out how to tell your 924 00:40:42,359 --> 00:40:45,060 constituents look this is what the deal 925 00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:48,540 is now we either gotta do this thing or 926 00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:50,579 we gonna have piled up a garbage all 927 00:40:50,579 --> 00:40:51,900 over our city 928 00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:55,740 I mean I it's it's just it is just it 929 00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:59,640 just hurts my heart that I was born in 930 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,220 this city and I lived in Mississippi 931 00:41:02,220 --> 00:41:05,520 soon be 65 years and we're at the point 932 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,820 now where we have we we can't we can't 933 00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:11,579 get anything done if we do get something 934 00:41:11,579 --> 00:41:15,240 done it's always a scream and a cursing 935 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,359 match about it it is totally it is 936 00:41:18,359 --> 00:41:22,260 totally ridiculous they're grown people 937 00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:26,040 sit behind these areas 938 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,099 and curse and screaming bicker and argue 939 00:41:29,099 --> 00:41:32,099 about everything that go on 940 00:41:32,099 --> 00:41:34,980 Come and Get Together We are never gonna 941 00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:37,200 get anything done if we keep on 942 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,300 bickering and arguing about it I promise 943 00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:42,900 you Lord forgive me I represent God 944 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,540 that's who I try to represent I don't 945 00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:48,359 always do it right but that's why Jesus 946 00:41:48,359 --> 00:41:50,040 died on the cross because he knew I 947 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,839 wasn't gonna always do it right 948 00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:53,640 everybody do some stuff they haven't 949 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,880 been doing but the thing is until this 950 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,160 Council figure out 951 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,240 how to put their heads together work out 952 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:05,480 something that every that that that 953 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,400 they're satisfied about 954 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,440 try your best you you're gonna have to 955 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,599 get it it's a give and take it ain't 956 00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:14,400 gonna always be your way it ain't going 957 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,560 to be the other person's way but I 958 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,720 promise you it with it that seven 959 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:19,740 dollars 960 00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:23,099 I mean hey yeah it's a lot I'm for one 961 00:42:23,099 --> 00:42:26,400 can't afford it but if it has when it 962 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,079 comes to garbage we don't want garbage 963 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,960 all over the place and we and and if and 964 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,000 if we have to figure out a way I mean if 965 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,740 y'all could get together and figure out 966 00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:38,520 a way to make this thing work 967 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,380 you could put your hands you gotta say 968 00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:46,619 look man can you not do with this for this to happen What can you do 969 00:42:46,619 --> 00:42:49,020 without for yourself instead of blaming 970 00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:51,829 each other 971 00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:53,220 I might have to stop you right there 972 00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:55,140 real quick because I don't think you may 973 00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:56,220 have been a different council meeting 974 00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:58,260 than I've been here for the last hour or 975 00:42:58,260 --> 00:43:00,119 so but I don't I didn't hear any 976 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,700 bickering between any of us here it's a 977 00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:04,140 serious issues I don't know where you're 978 00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:07,079 at but hold on a second let me finish 979 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:09,960 it's just a serious issue that people 980 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,119 in this community have been at least 981 00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:13,560 calling me about 982 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,619 in my district that I represent and it's 983 00:43:16,619 --> 00:43:20,460 a 30 increase on a garbage and we're all 984 00:43:20,460 --> 00:43:23,160 up here to make a a decision for people 985 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,380 so it's something that is a serious 986 00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:28,380 decision to be made and everybody up 987 00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:30,240 here has a right to speak and say what 988 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,460 they want to say and everything else and 989 00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:34,020 there was no bigger no cursing so I 990 00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:35,339 don't know where you were at but there 991 00:43:35,339 --> 00:43:37,140 was no cursing no bickering nothing up 992 00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:40,140 here there was some thoughts some some 993 00:43:40,140 --> 00:43:42,060 points being made by people in the 994 00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:44,579 audience and up up here as well making 995 00:43:44,579 --> 00:43:46,740 some points so I don't know maybe maybe 996 00:43:46,740 --> 00:43:49,440 I missed something but I didn't hear any 997 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,640 bigger but anyway as I was saying 998 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,780 uh I understand your constituents are 999 00:43:57,780 --> 00:44:02,099 calling you so that's where you go to 1000 00:44:02,099 --> 00:44:04,680 your other members and you say look 1001 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,359 everybody gets together and say look man 1002 00:44:06,359 --> 00:44:08,940 our constituents are having a fit that's 1003 00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:10,680 where you come together 1004 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,140 and you try and you try your best to 1005 00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:15,839 either make them understand or you try 1006 00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:18,839 your best to figure out another way 1007 00:44:18,839 --> 00:44:30,530 that's all I'm saying 1008 00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:33,900 name is Pete Graco liver 2100 Westdale 1009 00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:36,300 Court in Hammond 1010 00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:38,880 I just want to ask one question 1011 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,819 the garbage runs twice a week 1012 00:44:41,819 --> 00:44:43,440 why 1013 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,079 I don't have enough Gars to put in the 1014 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,420 garbage can twice a week 1015 00:44:48,420 --> 00:44:50,940 why can't he cut it down to once a week 1016 00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:53,700 and you won't have to raise it 1017 00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:56,780 that's all I got to say 1018 00:44:56,780 --> 00:45:00,240 I'll respond I think that's a a valid 1019 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,640 point we have had that discussion 1020 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,500 previously there are a lot of other 1021 00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:06,599 people in the City of Hammond who would 1022 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,640 scream if it was once a week so it's 1023 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,619 kind of a balancing act of 1024 00:45:10,619 --> 00:45:12,300 people who have large families they 1025 00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:13,740 definitely need it twice a week people 1026 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:15,480 who are retirees maybe don't have 1027 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,040 children at home they only want it once 1028 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,020 a week so we had to make a decision of 1029 00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:20,819 once a week or twice a week I understand 1030 00:45:20,819 --> 00:45:23,040 that yeah but I tell you what I 1031 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,680 guarantee if you go around and check it 1032 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,960 as more people don't need it but once a 1033 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,260 week and twice a week I only 1034 00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:32,160 once a week 1035 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,619 probably ate meat the rest of once a 1036 00:45:34,619 --> 00:45:37,079 week why Hammond's got a rough if you 1037 00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,540 want to save money for the people 1038 00:45:39,540 --> 00:45:41,760 cut it down to once a week and you won't 1039 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,720 have to raise the budget 1040 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:51,609 thank you thank you 1041 00:45:51,619 --> 00:45:54,300 Lacy our contract is twice a week we 1042 00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:56,220 can't change to once a week for a 1043 00:45:56,220 --> 00:45:59,400 different price correct 1044 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,099 you can always ask okay you can amend 1045 00:46:02,099 --> 00:46:04,380 contracts as long as they as long as 1046 00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:06,480 they you know would approve that but uh 1047 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,940 I think there's several ways I think the 1048 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:12,119 concerns of my district anyway is is the 1049 00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:18,780 increase of so much at one time being a large 30 percent 1050 00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:21,300 um increase so I mean I think maybe we 1051 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:24,000 need to go back to the drawing board and 1052 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,579 uh and then figure something out on on 1053 00:46:26,579 --> 00:46:27,720 this 1054 00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:28,500 um 1055 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:31,319 either either a a tier 1056 00:46:31,319 --> 00:46:32,280 um 1057 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,500 transition 1058 00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:38,099 um you know over over a period of time 1059 00:46:38,099 --> 00:46:42,660 um increase or uh or or just uh you know 1060 00:46:42,660 --> 00:46:48,839 looking at options of the one time a week compared to twice 1061 00:46:48,839 --> 00:46:53,270 a week how much savings 1062 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,319 you know that there's some options I 1063 00:46:55,319 --> 00:46:57,359 think instead of just sticking a 30 1064 00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:59,280 percent increase on the 1065 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,859 you know on everybody at one time so 1066 00:47:01,859 --> 00:47:03,420 that that's just something I'm thinking 1067 00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:04,980 about so 1068 00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:07,200 quick question for you ladies is that a 1069 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,940 way to actually 1070 00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:11,640 get some answers to these questions 1071 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,300 look up like the once a week breakdown I 1072 00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:18,060 know if we removed the the recycling we 1073 00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:19,920 already see what that little bit would 1074 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,839 be but is there a way to go back to them 1075 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,540 to actually get a number on it to see 1076 00:47:24,540 --> 00:47:27,119 what the difference would be I'm sure we 1077 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:30,180 could ask Andre kudrien our City 1078 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:31,680 attorney is out of town for the rest of 1079 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,020 this week but we can always go back to 1080 00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:35,880 the provider we can ask Andre what's 1081 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,700 within our bounds as accepting bids and 1082 00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:40,440 working with contracts and all that I'm 1083 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,720 sure we can always ask there's never a 1084 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,339 problem with asking 1085 00:47:44,339 --> 00:47:49,910 okay my next question would be uh 1086 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,900 table in this 1087 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:55,079 until we can get an answer 1088 00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:57,060 to see if there can be some kind of 1089 00:47:57,060 --> 00:47:59,700 breakdown or something that when we can 1090 00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:01,440 move through this here navigate through 1091 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,550 the water a little bit better 1092 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,720 all right Miss Lacey I have a question 1093 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,480 now so for the senior citizen I know we 1094 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,660 had talked about the senior citizen rate 1095 00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:14,940 about they can they'll come get the 1096 00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:16,980 garbage can from side of their house or 1097 00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:20,520 whatever but now that we talking is it 1098 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,819 any way that we can see what 55 own up 1099 00:48:23,819 --> 00:48:26,160 see if we can give a senior citizen 1100 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,980 discount because like the gentleman said 1101 00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:31,920 you know he just have enough garbage for 1102 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,260 once a week 1103 00:48:33,260 --> 00:48:36,540 and Mr site out he have enough garbage 1104 00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:38,400 for once a week 1105 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,040 and I only have enough garbage for once 1106 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,500 a week so I don't have to put my can out 1107 00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:45,839 there twice so is there any way that we 1108 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:48,900 can really look into not to help me but 1109 00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:51,359 help the senior citizen because if you 1110 00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:52,740 look in the room 1111 00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:55,800 you see who in here talking about the 1112 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,700 rates it's the senior citizen and in my 1113 00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:03,060 community a lot of people don't show up 1114 00:49:03,060 --> 00:49:06,119 because once you talk 1115 00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:08,640 somebody gonna go back and say they said 1116 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,280 this and they said that so that's what 1117 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,900 we deal with a lot in our community 1118 00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,180 that's why they don't come to the 1119 00:49:15,180 --> 00:49:16,740 council meeting because 1120 00:49:16,740 --> 00:49:19,200 fingers be pouring at them 1121 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,819 well then you made a good point too A 1122 00:49:20,819 --> 00:49:22,260 lot of the seniors are affecting a lot 1123 00:49:22,260 --> 00:49:23,880 of seniors may not be able to come to 1124 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,619 the meetings because of whatever health 1125 00:49:25,619 --> 00:49:27,300 reasons or whatnot but but they're 1126 00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:29,280 affected by the by the garbage probably 1127 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,839 mostly so 1128 00:49:30,839 --> 00:49:33,240 um that's another another issue as well 1129 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:37,309 too so 1130 00:49:37,319 --> 00:49:39,900 well for this particular item 1131 00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:41,880 at this point I would actually make a 1132 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,700 motion to table this item until we can 1133 00:49:44,700 --> 00:49:47,099 get a breakdown on the once a week 1134 00:49:47,099 --> 00:49:48,780 pickup 1135 00:49:48,780 --> 00:49:51,420 and some options maybe just do that and 1136 00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:53,460 also do seniors and I mean I don't know 1137 00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:59,220 maybe get creative with you know with uh you know someone with large 1138 00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:01,500 families gonna need to do twice I don't 1139 00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:02,700 know how creative they can get with that 1140 00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:03,480 but 1141 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,339 there's some of them they may not some 1142 00:50:05,339 --> 00:50:07,440 of my district I'll get calls from some 1143 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,420 people and they put it out once probably 1144 00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:11,280 every two weeks like there's just not 1145 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,800 much people that's not everybody so so 1146 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,300 and that that's something there that 1147 00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:18,140 maybe we need to look at with seniors or 1148 00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:22,319 pricing maybe or something so I look at 1149 00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:24,540 a few options I I would say 1150 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,760 um go back to the drawn board and and 1151 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,300 maybe you know and even even if it's a 1152 00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:32,099 tier where it's where it's over a period 1153 00:50:32,099 --> 00:50:34,920 of time a year you know increase here 1154 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,079 there what not as opposed to all at one 1155 00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:38,579 time I mean just several different 1156 00:50:38,579 --> 00:50:40,800 options that we can look at to kind of 1157 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,980 uh help this situation out 1158 00:50:43,980 --> 00:50:46,920 one option may be if the company is 1159 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,960 willing to go to once a week and if we 1160 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,520 don't have to rebid that you know 1161 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,900 there's lots of questions that we'll 1162 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:53,819 make sure and work through but one 1163 00:50:53,819 --> 00:50:55,319 option may be because I know we have 1164 00:50:55,319 --> 00:50:57,300 customers right now who have requested 1165 00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:01,440 and pay for a second can that may be if 1166 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,200 you had a larger family to a way that 1167 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,140 you could do once a week service but 1168 00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:08,700 you'd have you pay for that second can 1169 00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:10,380 so like you're suggesting is maybe 1170 00:51:10,380 --> 00:51:13,260 that's a way to give give a fair rate to 1171 00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:15,000 a lot of people but then those who maybe 1172 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,420 have additional needs they supplement 1173 00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:20,819 those and and they afford that way so 1174 00:51:20,819 --> 00:51:23,160 that we will try to look as many options 1175 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,140 as we can yeah that that that's a good 1176 00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:26,579 one right there you said with the two 1177 00:51:26,579 --> 00:51:29,099 cans possibly could be a good for those 1178 00:51:29,099 --> 00:51:30,780 households and then they wouldn't have 1179 00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:33,059 to pass once a week so 1180 00:51:33,059 --> 00:51:34,619 um 1181 00:51:34,619 --> 00:51:36,059 but anyway yeah I think there's 1182 00:51:36,059 --> 00:51:37,619 definitely more time needed to look at 1183 00:51:37,619 --> 00:51:42,170 this so I 1184 00:51:42,180 --> 00:51:45,660 H is a short question isn't the um 1185 00:51:45,660 --> 00:51:47,700 garbage tied in with the water the 1186 00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:53,750 sewage and in us the bill yes yes 1187 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,260 in my world 1188 00:51:55,260 --> 00:51:57,599 um I might notice a little hike but I 1189 00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:58,740 probably wouldn't notice it because 1190 00:51:58,740 --> 00:52:01,319 everything's breaking down and then the 1191 00:52:01,319 --> 00:52:03,420 water is always going up you know 1192 00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:06,839 sometimes I feel like why isn't that 1193 00:52:06,839 --> 00:52:08,160 separate I've been thinking this for 1194 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,559 years why isn't the garbage separate 1195 00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:13,740 from the water and this and the sewage 1196 00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:15,900 you know why do they make it one bill 1197 00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:17,579 because who's getting all the money the 1198 00:52:17,579 --> 00:52:19,260 water company you know is it really 1199 00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:22,619 being split equally you know I've always 1200 00:52:22,619 --> 00:52:26,530 had that question on one um 1201 00:52:26,540 --> 00:52:28,859 it should show on that bill it should 1202 00:52:28,859 --> 00:52:31,020 show like this sewer I don't think a lot 1203 00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:35,349 of people notice it 1204 00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:38,339 you know but I always wondered why they 1205 00:52:38,339 --> 00:52:40,260 didn't keep the garbage separate from 1206 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:41,240 the water 1207 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,319 yeah they're separate on the bill but 1208 00:52:43,319 --> 00:52:45,300 both of those services are provided by 1209 00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:47,220 the city right so all the money comes to 1210 00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:50,339 the city right so it's not like your 1211 00:52:50,339 --> 00:52:52,380 money we take and give to amways we pay 1212 00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:54,599 amways and then we take your money and 1213 00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:56,339 reimburse ourselves and I think it's an 1214 00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,380 efficiency thing too instead of somebody 1215 00:52:58,380 --> 00:53:01,079 sending out two bill it's it saves time 1216 00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:03,599 paper more efficient putting it all on 1217 00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,859 one bill but yeah so yeah 1218 00:53:06,859 --> 00:53:10,160 you're welcome thank you 1219 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,800 in Dallas 1220 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,430 by usage 1221 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,780 and all of those things do go in like 1222 00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:20,520 your Revenue line items you'll see those 1223 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,260 separated so the same way that they're 1224 00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:24,300 separated in your bill they don't just 1225 00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:26,040 come to the city and all go in one big 1226 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,260 pot they stay in the water pot they stay 1227 00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:30,059 in the sewer pot they stay in the 1228 00:53:30,059 --> 00:53:31,859 garbage pot they stay in the Clean Water 1229 00:53:31,859 --> 00:53:34,140 fee that goes to the state so each of 1230 00:53:34,140 --> 00:53:35,520 those things that you see on your bill 1231 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,099 kind of stays in its own pot and then is 1232 00:53:38,099 --> 00:53:40,140 combined in different ways either to pay 1233 00:53:40,140 --> 00:53:42,180 the contractors or to pay the state or 1234 00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:44,400 to pay for the services 1235 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,260 but the parish do have it separate 1236 00:53:46,260 --> 00:53:48,900 though uh the parish habit where you can 1237 00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,700 pay your garbage bill yourself per 1238 00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:53,160 household they do have it like that so 1239 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,700 what uh President Andrew said 1240 00:53:56,700 --> 00:54:00,420 yes I would like for us to uh 1241 00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:02,520 put it on hold 1242 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,700 let's go over some things 1243 00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:09,660 yes so you second that second a second 1244 00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:11,700 there's another hand in the arm so 1245 00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:13,680 somebody else had something to say 1246 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:19,190 sale so 1247 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,660 yes I just want to thank the council for 1248 00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:23,819 listening to the public 1249 00:54:23,819 --> 00:54:27,300 and uh you know it's always good to 1250 00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:29,280 bring people in here 1251 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,079 and to try to you know get an 1252 00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:33,900 understanding and the lady and Pete and 1253 00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:37,740 a few people came in by because you know 1254 00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:40,440 they were asked to come out but I asked 1255 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,119 20 of them that caught me and I said 1256 00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:44,520 well okay I'm going up there if y'all 1257 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,260 want to come come on 1258 00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:48,660 but you know it's like when you're a 1259 00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:50,880 certain age now you don't want to get 1260 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,819 out as much and I think that once a week 1261 00:54:53,819 --> 00:54:57,240 is a great program because 1262 00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:00,480 uh the garbage cans are really big 1263 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,619 number one and uh maybe you know the 1264 00:55:04,619 --> 00:55:07,700 city could read we worked that contract 1265 00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:10,680 if the uh you know as long as the 1266 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,780 council is willing to work with and 1267 00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:15,119 thinking about the the people and you 1268 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,700 know that's that we represent okay I say 1269 00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:19,260 we I'm talking about the council 1270 00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:21,119 representing and thank y'all for 1271 00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:25,609 listening thank you thank you 1272 00:55:25,619 --> 00:55:28,500 councilman Andrews aye councilman 1273 00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:31,020 divitario aye councilwoman Gonzalez aye 1274 00:55:31,020 --> 00:55:35,760 councilman Leon aye councilman Wales aye 1275 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,940 introduction of earnest 9 resolutions 1276 00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:41,700 resolution number one a resolution to 1277 00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:43,859 Grant a waiver of the city of Hammond's 1278 00:55:43,859 --> 00:55:46,140 open container law to North Shore 1279 00:55:46,140 --> 00:55:48,960 families helping families for the third 1280 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,300 annual 1281 00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:55,579 nfhf walk run and roll 5K and 10K event 1282 00:55:55,579 --> 00:55:59,240 being held on Saturday September 16 1283 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:04,140 2023 from 6 00 a.m to 11 A.M at Kate 1284 00:56:04,140 --> 00:56:07,079 Square Park actual service of alcohol 1285 00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:11,099 will be from 7 30 to 11 A.M the event 1286 00:56:11,099 --> 00:56:14,280 boundaries are West Charles Street North 1287 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,400 Magnolia Street West Robert Street and 1288 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,579 North Oak Street Heather Saint Emmett 1289 00:56:20,579 --> 00:56:22,680 families and their race director 1290 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,720 I'm here to ask for an ordinance 1291 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,680 variation for that short period of time 1292 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,619 to clarify open container alcohol it's 1293 00:56:31,619 --> 00:56:35,160 just beer I've spoken to we have a soft 1294 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,859 commitment from low road Brewing which 1295 00:56:37,859 --> 00:56:40,079 is a local Brewery I wanted to kind of 1296 00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,900 keep it local in the neighborhood it's 1297 00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:45,240 mainly to be honest it's a marketing 1298 00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:48,660 Ploy it's to Runners like beer they like 1299 00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:50,760 to have a an eight ounce 1300 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,720 glass of beer after a run and to attract 1301 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,260 more Runners to pay a registration fee 1302 00:56:58,260 --> 00:57:00,119 which makes money for our organization 1303 00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:01,440 which 1304 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,640 tangipahoe parish is a big part of our 1305 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,280 community that we help 1306 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,319 so that's basically what it is and it's 1307 00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:12,839 a very short period of time and I can 1308 00:57:12,839 --> 00:57:15,119 tell you I have never been to a race and 1309 00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:17,400 I've been running for years I've been 1310 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,500 coaching for years and I've never seen 1311 00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,660 drunks 1312 00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:23,599 at an after party 1313 00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:27,200 but it's very simple it's it's an event 1314 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,619 basically our organization 1315 00:57:30,619 --> 00:57:33,540 we provide resources and services along 1316 00:57:33,540 --> 00:57:36,900 with Educational Services for children 1317 00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:39,059 and adults with um 1318 00:57:39,059 --> 00:57:40,800 developmental disabilities and special 1319 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,819 needs 1320 00:57:41,819 --> 00:57:44,520 and we cover St Tammany tangipaho 1321 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,559 Washington Saint Helena and Livingston 1322 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:49,559 Parish we are region nine and this is 1323 00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:52,680 our biggest fundraiser of the year 1324 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,260 and we're hoping that it goes very well 1325 00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:57,780 considering that some of our funding 1326 00:57:57,780 --> 00:58:00,000 from the state is on The Chopping Block 1327 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,400 which I'm sure a lot of other funds are 1328 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,800 on the shopping block as well so I ask 1329 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,960 for your consideration in granting this 1330 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,920 uh ordinance variation and 1331 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,720 hopefully y'all can come out and have 1332 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,339 fun with us 1333 00:58:14,339 --> 00:58:17,099 anyone have any questions 1334 00:58:17,099 --> 00:58:20,569 anyone from the council 1335 00:58:20,579 --> 00:58:22,619 you see I can't walk and I can't run but 1336 00:58:22,619 --> 00:58:27,300 can I walk fast you can't you can walk fast these angels of 1337 00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:30,119 Louisiana that's going to be there uh so 1338 00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:32,220 we'll have running chariots 1339 00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:32,880 um 1340 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,579 it's everyone is welcome we are an 1341 00:58:35,579 --> 00:58:37,559 inclusive organization and that's the 1342 00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:39,900 reason why we put it on so if y'all come 1343 00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:42,359 out and see what we're about 1344 00:58:42,359 --> 00:58:45,480 you know put put it this way the people 1345 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,619 that we help they're going to put a 1346 00:58:46,619 --> 00:58:48,180 smile on your face and you're going to 1347 00:58:48,180 --> 00:58:49,680 walk away crying because they put that 1348 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:50,940 smile on your face 1349 00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:53,460 and how much is the alcohol now we're 1350 00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:58,740 not selling okay we are not selling so they just giving alcohol away for the 1351 00:58:58,740 --> 00:59:00,000 running yeah 1352 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,760 brings people in and showcase part of 1353 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,220 what Hammond's about and a lot of the 1354 00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:07,799 businesses in Hammond 1355 00:59:07,799 --> 00:59:10,040 but we are not selling 1356 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,540 they usually give out like eight ounce 1357 00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:14,400 six eight ounce cup 1358 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,260 okay I'm gonna say this here 1359 00:59:16,260 --> 00:59:22,020 congratulations and keep being a giver and thank you so much 1360 00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:23,400 for what you're trying to do for the 1361 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,200 City of Hammond and the surrounding 1362 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,339 areas so Devon if you if you go out and 1363 00:59:29,339 --> 00:59:30,660 walk you'll be able to get the little 1364 00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:34,870 eight eight ounces 1365 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,440 help try to cool you off after that 1366 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,420 understand what you're talking about 1367 00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:41,460 brother yeah eight ounces ain't gonna be 1368 00:59:41,460 --> 00:59:44,579 enough for me well you know I got to 1369 00:59:44,579 --> 00:59:46,160 feel a little fit 1370 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,200 I don't have water and 1371 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,920 um uh I'm hoping to hear from the 1372 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,440 lieutenant governor's office too he 1373 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,440 might make an appearance we're hoping 1374 00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,880 so 1375 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,980 um yeah I might have some surprises who 1376 01:00:01,980 --> 01:00:05,460 knows all right thank you thank you so 1377 01:00:05,460 --> 01:00:06,299 much 1378 01:00:06,299 --> 01:00:11,870 make a motion approve second 1379 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,220 councilman Andrews aye councilman David 1380 01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:16,559 material aye councilwoman Gonzalez aye 1381 01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:19,740 councilman Leon aye councilman Wales aye 1382 01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:22,020 resolution number two 1383 01:00:22,020 --> 01:00:24,299 a resolution to authorize the mayor to 1384 01:00:24,299 --> 01:00:26,280 enter into a contract on behalf of the 1385 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,240 City of Hammond with BFI Waste Services 1386 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,540 LLC DBA Republic Services of Baton Rouge 1387 01:00:33,540 --> 01:00:37,760 in the estimated amount of 65 1388 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,940 377.19 Janice swallow good evening good 1389 01:00:41,940 --> 01:00:44,520 evening Jen um this is our annual uh 1390 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,220 front-end related dumpster services that 1391 01:00:47,220 --> 01:00:48,839 is for our buildings 1392 01:00:48,839 --> 01:00:49,440 um 1393 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,799 the current contractor BFI declined to 1394 01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:54,299 renew at their current rate that they 1395 01:00:54,299 --> 01:00:56,520 had bidded on last year so we opted to 1396 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,940 put a new RFP out we have four proposals 1397 01:00:59,940 --> 01:01:01,559 they came in again as the lowest 1398 01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:05,520 proposal as you see I put estimated cost 1399 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,200 of 65 377 19 cents Because the actual 1400 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,339 rentals for all dumpsters will be 58 1401 01:01:13,339 --> 01:01:16,260 467.35 cents we had to estimate the 1402 01:01:16,260 --> 01:01:18,420 tonnage for a 190 roll-offs which we 1403 01:01:18,420 --> 01:01:21,540 have two of I did it on the high end and 1404 01:01:21,540 --> 01:01:22,859 that's where I came up with a figure of 1405 01:01:22,859 --> 01:01:27,049 65 377.19 1406 01:01:27,059 --> 01:01:28,500 so for council's approval to move 1407 01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:30,540 forward 1408 01:01:30,540 --> 01:01:34,140 John I have a few questions uh 1409 01:01:34,140 --> 01:01:36,900 the city hall we'll go we'll let you go 1410 01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:39,000 down the list okay the city hall the 1411 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,020 first one 1412 01:01:40,020 --> 01:01:42,599 okay I understand that the five central 1413 01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:45,119 the second one I understand that the 1414 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:50,809 food pantry explained it to me 1415 01:01:50,819 --> 01:01:53,700 can you explain 1416 01:01:53,700 --> 01:01:55,319 that's a partnership that we have had 1417 01:01:55,319 --> 01:01:57,299 for many many years I don't I don't know 1418 01:01:57,299 --> 01:01:59,700 how far back that goes in terms of 1419 01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:01,619 bidding out the dumpsters since you've 1420 01:02:01,619 --> 01:02:04,030 been here 1421 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,960 okay because and I'm glad you said that 1422 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,780 Miss Lacy the partnership 1423 01:02:08,780 --> 01:02:11,640 uh with the non-profit 1424 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,099 and I'm one of the ones voted to uh go 1425 01:02:14,099 --> 01:02:17,460 vote against it giving out money 1426 01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:19,380 and and this is why I'm bringing this up 1427 01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:22,740 we talking about the garbage rates 1428 01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:25,680 but I hope I'm not gonna have a notice 1429 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,780 this we talking about the garbage race 1430 01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:29,940 for the resident but yet we turning 1431 01:02:29,940 --> 01:02:31,859 around about to give money away on 1432 01:02:31,859 --> 01:02:33,720 something else uh 1433 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,420 so since I got you miss Lacey on Pecan 1434 01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:38,819 Street what's what's going on there 1435 01:02:38,819 --> 01:02:41,780 that's our building maintenance facility 1436 01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:45,559 okay uh 1437 01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:48,720 190 two times per month 1438 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,000 is it any way that we can cut back on it 1439 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,440 or what 1440 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,599 we actually did change that up we had to 1441 01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:56,819 roll off with three dumpsters and we 1442 01:02:56,819 --> 01:02:58,079 took the three dumpsters off and 1443 01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:00,780 increased the roll-off to cut the cost 1444 01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:04,319 of that actual facilities pricing 1445 01:03:04,319 --> 01:03:07,200 the senior citizen 1446 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,299 where is that at what is that the 1447 01:03:09,299 --> 01:03:11,579 Council on Aging page six yeah no no I 1448 01:03:11,579 --> 01:03:13,380 see but I'm sure I'm trying to under 1449 01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:20,819 um location wise yeah okay yeah okay okay now the counseling agent 1450 01:03:20,819 --> 01:03:23,099 agency not we're giving them money 1451 01:03:23,099 --> 01:03:26,220 already so and we gotta pay that garbage 1452 01:03:26,220 --> 01:03:28,260 bill 1453 01:03:28,260 --> 01:03:30,299 we're giving them money 1454 01:03:30,299 --> 01:03:32,099 already 1455 01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:34,920 because see what I'm trying not to do is 1456 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,140 and I got to say uh 1457 01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:38,819 I'm trying not to get nothing cut in 1458 01:03:38,819 --> 01:03:40,200 District three that's what I'm working 1459 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,880 on 1460 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:51,950 so do we have a garbage bill 1461 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,609 complicated too if that's 1462 01:03:55,619 --> 01:03:59,819 sewer plant fragrant Drive uh 1463 01:03:59,819 --> 01:04:03,059 is it anyway we can cut that back 1464 01:04:03,059 --> 01:04:06,240 Mondays and Thursdays 1465 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,059 I would have to ask the bordering 1466 01:04:09,059 --> 01:04:10,440 superintendent 1467 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,220 um guy pal Palermo I know they out there 1468 01:04:13,220 --> 01:04:15,180 majority seven days a week I really 1469 01:04:15,180 --> 01:04:17,160 don't know what actual 1470 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,319 garbage that they bring in tonnage wise 1471 01:04:19,319 --> 01:04:27,289 but that is something we can ask about 1472 01:04:27,299 --> 01:04:28,799 that is the dumpster that's out there by 1473 01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:30,900 the swimming pool in the skate park and 1474 01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:33,839 I know that the rec center yes they 1475 01:04:33,839 --> 01:04:35,819 Recreation all them bring fire 1476 01:04:35,819 --> 01:04:37,140 department on the other side bring their 1477 01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:39,720 trash and don't think that is used 1478 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,299 now watch it now because we got the fire 1479 01:04:42,299 --> 01:04:43,799 department on here too we have multiple 1480 01:04:43,799 --> 01:04:45,660 fire departments yeah 1481 01:04:45,660 --> 01:04:47,940 okay 1482 01:04:47,940 --> 01:04:50,460 the police training 1483 01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:52,859 that's once a week and it's a small 1484 01:04:52,859 --> 01:04:57,410 dumpster 1485 01:04:57,420 --> 01:04:59,700 alleyway 1486 01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:02,099 that one were reimbursed for by the 1487 01:05:02,099 --> 01:05:04,680 People by the business owners there so 1488 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,420 the business owners throughout Morrison 1489 01:05:06,420 --> 01:05:10,380 alley all pay for that dumpster 1490 01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:12,240 through their water bills instead of 1491 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,280 carrying separate trash they pay for the 1492 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,049 dumpster 1493 01:05:18,059 --> 01:05:23,390 so if they paying for the dumpsters 1494 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,859 that one that one is a is a budget wash 1495 01:05:25,859 --> 01:05:28,440 I would say because we get the money 1496 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,260 they get charged the money for that to 1497 01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:32,880 pay for that dumpster 1498 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,040 we just decided to put a dumpster there 1499 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,200 because we had so many issues with trash 1500 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,720 being back there and not being collected 1501 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,740 properly 1502 01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:42,540 because there's three restaurants on 1503 01:05:42,540 --> 01:05:44,940 that same block right there 1504 01:05:44,940 --> 01:05:46,619 okay because this is what I'm looking at 1505 01:05:46,619 --> 01:05:49,079 Miss Lacey and you helped me out 1506 01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:51,180 when I'm riding downtown I see any 1507 01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:53,220 garbage trucks downtown picking up 1508 01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:55,920 garbage so 1509 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,900 should nobody have to put garbage out in 1510 01:05:57,900 --> 01:05:59,280 the front if we're going to do this sale 1511 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,420 right I'm asking you mean if we if we 1512 01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:06,119 didn't have the dumpster yeah if we 1513 01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:08,339 didn't have the dumpster there would be 1514 01:06:08,339 --> 01:06:10,619 massive amounts of trash and more finale 1515 01:06:10,619 --> 01:06:12,900 because there's three restaurants on 1516 01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:14,280 that block alone 1517 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,260 yeah okay well what I'm saying they 1518 01:06:16,260 --> 01:06:18,480 can't they have more trash than could 1519 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,119 fit in in like the the carts the hand 1520 01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:26,220 carts okay so can I see uh 1521 01:06:26,220 --> 01:06:29,520 maybe this week where we making sure 1522 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,559 that the city that they actually paying 1523 01:06:31,559 --> 01:06:35,760 for their garbage fees Okay so 1524 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,319 let's see what else I have on here the 1525 01:06:37,319 --> 01:06:39,359 fire department they good because what 1526 01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:40,680 I'm saying I'm looking at how much money 1527 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,619 we spending on the Alice and the garbage 1528 01:06:43,619 --> 01:06:46,370 fees 1529 01:06:46,380 --> 01:06:49,680 and so what we look like we're going to 1530 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,480 take off uh there's something that we 1531 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,539 need to talk about now or uh take it off 1532 01:06:54,539 --> 01:06:55,920 because the senior citizen we're giving 1533 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,539 them money already how much money we get 1534 01:06:57,539 --> 01:06:59,700 him every year 1535 01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:02,280 I believe it's sixty thousand sixty 1536 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,839 thousand 1537 01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:06,180 so 1538 01:07:06,180 --> 01:07:08,819 yeah it's for the bus service 60 000 1539 01:07:08,819 --> 01:07:10,559 just for them to you know do what they 1540 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:14,339 want it's 60 000 to operate the city bus 1541 01:07:14,339 --> 01:07:18,359 so that the alleyway uh Alleyway Kate 1542 01:07:18,359 --> 01:07:22,200 Street uh that one right there is 1543 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,119 that one is where's that which one's 1544 01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:26,280 that behind that's the same way so the 1545 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,319 alleyway is behind um well they get the 1546 01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:32,460 one behind tacos and beer and all that is that's one of them is that uh 1547 01:07:32,460 --> 01:07:34,799 Alleyway Kate or alloy Thomas because 1548 01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:36,059 that'd be Thomas should be right 1549 01:07:36,059 --> 01:07:38,819 Morrison alley is the one behind uh 1550 01:07:38,819 --> 01:07:42,059 tacos and beer okay my mom's the other 1551 01:07:42,059 --> 01:07:46,559 one is across the street from her across 1552 01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:49,020 Cyprus is the entrance to that back 1553 01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:51,900 alley yeah so it Services 1554 01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:55,500 um the Luna coffee place the other side 1555 01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:57,599 I gotcha in fact I don't think it's Luna 1556 01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:59,220 I think it's 1557 01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:02,760 um topala participates in that one uh 1558 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:07,619 this the cafe the coffee shop the 1559 01:08:07,619 --> 01:08:10,619 two bars I think both participate I know 1560 01:08:10,619 --> 01:08:12,900 for sure one of them does 1561 01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:16,140 that again is a is a budget wash because 1562 01:08:16,140 --> 01:08:18,779 it's charged to the customers 1563 01:08:18,779 --> 01:08:25,789 for that dumpster 1564 01:08:25,799 --> 01:08:29,090 that was my only concern 1565 01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:32,110 thank you 1566 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,739 anyway at those dumpsters that we have 1567 01:08:34,739 --> 01:08:37,679 like with the regular contract like put 1568 01:08:37,679 --> 01:08:39,179 them all to where like 1569 01:08:39,179 --> 01:08:42,060 you know waste Waste Pro would be with 1570 01:08:42,060 --> 01:08:44,460 Waste Pro like why wouldn't we have at 1571 01:08:44,460 --> 01:08:47,219 some point in time bidding them all out 1572 01:08:47,219 --> 01:08:49,199 with you know the same company to see if 1573 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:50,699 it would have been a better rate like 1574 01:08:50,699 --> 01:08:53,239 what uh why is it separate instead of 1575 01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:56,279 letting them bid out services that we 1576 01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,440 request and this is a front end loader 1577 01:08:58,440 --> 01:09:00,420 um well I'm just saying that some of 1578 01:09:00,420 --> 01:09:02,819 these companies offer both gear doesn't 1579 01:09:02,819 --> 01:09:05,699 offer yeah but I mean some of them do 1580 01:09:05,699 --> 01:09:07,560 like yeah it's Pros on here so that's 1581 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,179 what I was saying but they're bidded out 1582 01:09:09,179 --> 01:09:10,679 separately like what I'm saying is the 1583 01:09:10,679 --> 01:09:13,560 contract for the regular garbage pickup 1584 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,980 is usually comes before the dumpsters 1585 01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:19,500 around like I just would I would have 1586 01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:21,000 thought that it probably better to 1587 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,000 probably bid them out together and then 1588 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,880 the ones who only do those just put them 1589 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,380 in the mix of bidding and out and then 1590 01:09:28,380 --> 01:09:30,900 the ones that do both let them do both 1591 01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:32,640 so that's what I'm getting at because 1592 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,080 some of these companies that do both 1593 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,719 they may have been able to give a better 1594 01:09:36,719 --> 01:09:39,239 rate if they offer both 1595 01:09:39,239 --> 01:09:43,679 at the time of negotiating uh that's a 1596 01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:44,940 question I could just ask in 1597 01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:46,859 consideration to see if yeah it affected 1598 01:09:46,859 --> 01:09:48,359 the price yeah I was just curious on 1599 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:50,880 that because I'd imagine this it would 1600 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,739 have been nice to just bid them all out 1601 01:09:52,739 --> 01:09:55,020 of the same same time when we do garbage 1602 01:09:55,020 --> 01:10:02,270 and and rollaways 1603 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:08,630 I wonder if I have any questions 1604 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,239 it's just a lot of discussion about 1605 01:10:11,239 --> 01:10:13,620 non-profits and things the food pantry 1606 01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:15,360 that's thirty two hundred dollars a year 1607 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,820 for their garbage and the Council on 1608 01:10:17,820 --> 01:10:18,900 Aging 1609 01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:20,940 thirty two hundred dollars a year for 1610 01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:23,940 their garbage those were the two 1611 01:10:23,940 --> 01:10:26,460 quote unquote non-profits for you to pay 1612 01:10:26,460 --> 01:10:34,390 their garbage 1613 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,080 and Jan I guess what I was getting at I 1614 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,400 was just trying to figure out if there 1615 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,380 was a reason why I like that I don't 1616 01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:42,000 know but that was it so it may be a 1617 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,620 reason why they did it separately like 1618 01:10:43,620 --> 01:10:45,600 that or at timing or whatever so that's 1619 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,980 kind of what you know if you get a 1620 01:10:46,980 --> 01:10:49,500 chance just see what I was curious it's 1621 01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:51,000 just really how the contracts previously 1622 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,860 fell out the trash for a decisions 1623 01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:54,480 usually their pricing and do they do 1624 01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:56,520 long do they do longer contracts in a 1625 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,239 year 1626 01:10:57,239 --> 01:11:05,270 yeah they have often up to three years okay 1627 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,970 so 1628 01:11:07,980 --> 01:11:14,410 anyone else 1629 01:11:14,420 --> 01:11:16,260 yeah how we're gonna do about those 1630 01:11:16,260 --> 01:11:18,300 non-profits in there so will we take 1631 01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:21,970 that out or what how we gonna do this 1632 01:11:21,980 --> 01:11:25,620 could the administration ask them to pay 1633 01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:28,320 their bill pay a bill 1634 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,239 okay that's if the council doesn't want 1635 01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:31,440 to pay for garbage for these two 1636 01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:33,120 non-profits it could be like these 1637 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,580 residents and restaurants who reimburse 1638 01:11:35,580 --> 01:11:38,100 the city since we're obviously going to 1639 01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:39,659 have a better rate that would help out 1640 01:11:39,659 --> 01:11:42,420 these non-profits so that um this and 1641 01:11:42,420 --> 01:11:44,159 then and then kind of another 1642 01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:46,199 prove it and just send them a bill yeah 1643 01:11:46,199 --> 01:11:48,780 we could just I mean we can just 1644 01:11:48,780 --> 01:11:50,940 send them if that's the council's 1645 01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:52,620 decision we can just 1646 01:11:52,620 --> 01:11:55,260 send them the invoice for that amount on 1647 01:11:55,260 --> 01:11:57,179 their water and sewer bill 1648 01:11:57,179 --> 01:11:59,640 and with them do a second resolution 1649 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,820 saying the council wishes YouTube and 1650 01:12:02,820 --> 01:12:05,040 make a removal 1651 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,960 and 1652 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,239 I guess we'd make a motion to prove that 1653 01:12:09,239 --> 01:12:11,990 this would 1654 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,620 um I think we definitely need to say 1655 01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:15,320 something about what we're going to do 1656 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,600 with that so I mean maybe just vote vote 1657 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,020 uh you know to to remove 1658 01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:24,179 those two items and make up another one 1659 01:12:24,179 --> 01:12:26,280 and make another one after saying that 1660 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,020 you know make a motion to I'm not making 1661 01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:29,219 this motion because I don't agree with 1662 01:12:29,219 --> 01:12:31,320 this but I make a motion to approve 1663 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,440 these bids um and 1664 01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:36,540 Council Council on Aging in their water 1665 01:12:36,540 --> 01:12:38,580 bill well I think if you could do that 1666 01:12:38,580 --> 01:12:41,040 you need to include all they're already 1667 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,440 done doing that they're redoing that but 1668 01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:45,179 we're not stating that is it stated 1669 01:12:45,179 --> 01:12:46,380 anywhere 1670 01:12:46,380 --> 01:12:48,239 see what I'm saying I mean if we're 1671 01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:49,620 going to clean it up clean it up yeah I 1672 01:12:49,620 --> 01:12:51,239 think there's some conditions or you 1673 01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:54,000 know if you want to prove it with a 1674 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,600 condition what a condition 1675 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,340 all non-city entities must be billed on 1676 01:12:59,340 --> 01:13:05,270 their water bill yeah 1677 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,020 so that's the motion so what was the 1678 01:13:07,020 --> 01:13:08,280 motion I don't know if somebody needs to 1679 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,460 make the motion it's not my motion 1680 01:13:11,460 --> 01:13:13,380 okay 1681 01:13:13,380 --> 01:13:16,260 that all none City 1682 01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:19,070 entities 1683 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,980 receive a monthly bill for their trash 1684 01:13:22,980 --> 01:13:25,860 to dumpster 1685 01:13:25,860 --> 01:13:28,739 on their water bill 1686 01:13:28,739 --> 01:13:30,239 second 1687 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:32,580 and and we are entering into the 1688 01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:34,679 contract a motion to approve maybe the 1689 01:13:34,679 --> 01:13:41,630 language as stated on the agenda 1690 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,120 and Anne and we enter in 1691 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,719 so how many votes do we have well so we 1692 01:13:48,719 --> 01:13:51,060 don't we don't even have them the way 1693 01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:52,440 it's going to be styled is a motion to 1694 01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:54,719 approve the contracts and include that 1695 01:13:54,719 --> 01:14:01,380 all non-city entities must pay their fee on their water bill 1696 01:14:01,380 --> 01:14:02,880 the first part is to approve the 1697 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,159 contract which is what's in the agenda 1698 01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:08,810 right 1699 01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:15,709 is that your motion kit yes 1700 01:14:15,719 --> 01:14:21,950 uh councilman Wells second did it 1701 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,640 'll be knowing what to do in the lawyer 1702 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,520 not around huh I see it's getting it's 1703 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,219 getting important now to have uh no 1704 01:14:29,219 --> 01:14:30,960 assistant 1705 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,640 that's true I ain't talking about you 1706 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,980 I'm saying we don't quite know we don't 1707 01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:36,480 quite know it's right 1708 01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:38,640 because we don't have no we don't have 1709 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,739 the opinion of the lawyer so we don't 1710 01:14:40,739 --> 01:14:41,940 know 1711 01:14:41,940 --> 01:14:44,400 and when certain laws talk it scared me 1712 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,199 because I'm thinking oh lord it's gonna 1713 01:14:46,199 --> 01:14:49,189 be too good now 1714 01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:52,620 so how did that resolution read did you 1715 01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:54,780 get it written down no okay get it 1716 01:14:54,780 --> 01:14:56,219 written down the way that you said all 1717 01:14:56,219 --> 01:14:57,719 of the wording but I'll go back and 1718 01:14:57,719 --> 01:14:59,940 listen to it but basically you approve 1719 01:14:59,940 --> 01:15:02,580 the the resolution on the on the agenda 1720 01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:05,540 as it is which with the with changes to 1721 01:15:05,540 --> 01:15:08,699 all non-profit entities receiving a bill 1722 01:15:08,699 --> 01:15:11,300 something like that all non-city yeah 1723 01:15:11,300 --> 01:15:13,500 that's what I have non-city entities 1724 01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:17,530 receiving a bill 1725 01:15:17,540 --> 01:15:19,739 no it's only one vote it's all one 1726 01:15:19,739 --> 01:15:23,810 resolution 1727 01:15:23,820 --> 01:15:26,400 councilman Andrews aye 1728 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,920 councilman divitario aye councilwoman 1729 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,080 Gonzalez aye councilman Leon aye from 1730 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,219 councilman Wells 1731 01:15:32,219 --> 01:15:33,060 aye 1732 01:15:33,060 --> 01:15:35,219 I just want to make a little comment is 1733 01:15:35,219 --> 01:15:36,780 that you know we got so many big 1734 01:15:36,780 --> 01:15:38,640 contracts like this come up 1735 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,800 be nice you know to just check to see if 1736 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,500 we have the attorney you know if he's 1737 01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:45,000 going to be able to make it or not just 1738 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,100 because some issues like this would be 1739 01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:49,440 you know good if we had I mean garbage 1740 01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:52,500 is a big contract and some of these so 1741 01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:54,300 um I know everybody at their personal 1742 01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:56,280 life and everything but you know it had 1743 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,320 been nice maybe just to put it on the 1744 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,960 agenda when you know he was going to be 1745 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:01,920 here 1746 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,600 um the City attorney or some 1747 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,560 representative of of his office uh so if 1748 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,659 there was any questions on some of the 1749 01:16:09,659 --> 01:16:11,699 contracts we could we could get that 1750 01:16:11,699 --> 01:16:14,219 addressed uh I think that would be a 1751 01:16:14,219 --> 01:16:16,500 good idea in the future just to kind of 1752 01:16:16,500 --> 01:16:18,600 if there's some some big contract topic 1753 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,340 items to come up I think it would help 1754 01:16:20,340 --> 01:16:22,199 all of us out up here 1755 01:16:22,199 --> 01:16:25,790 yeah thank you 1756 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,440 resolution number three a resolution to 1757 01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:30,000 approve the mayor to enter into a 1758 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,100 contract with the Daily Star as the 1759 01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:34,020 official journal for the City of Hammond 1760 01:16:34,020 --> 01:16:37,739 Louisiana from Feb July 1st 2023 to June 1761 01:16:37,739 --> 01:16:41,219 30th 2024 Janna swallow 1762 01:16:41,219 --> 01:16:43,020 this is the designation that we do every 1763 01:16:43,020 --> 01:16:45,300 year that is required by the state that 1764 01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:48,420 is uh just basically stating that the 1765 01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:49,860 official journal for the City of Hammond 1766 01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:51,719 will be the Daily Star The Daily Star is 1767 01:16:51,719 --> 01:16:53,159 the only one that's applicable for this 1768 01:16:53,159 --> 01:16:55,800 nothing has changed as in pricing or 1769 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,540 anything from the last several years so 1770 01:16:57,540 --> 01:16:59,880 we're just asking for council's approval 1771 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:02,940 the three of us into this contract 1772 01:17:02,940 --> 01:17:04,739 any questions or concerns from anyone 1773 01:17:04,739 --> 01:17:05,490 from the public 1774 01:17:05,490 --> 01:17:07,440 [Applause] 1775 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:09,960 anyone from the council Pledge of the 1776 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,880 council 1777 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,890 second 1778 01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:18,060 councilman Andrews aye 1779 01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:20,340 councilman divitarian aye councilwoman 1780 01:17:20,340 --> 01:17:22,620 Gonzalez aye councilman Leon aye 1781 01:17:22,620 --> 01:17:23,880 councilman Wells 1782 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,940 aye thank you Jen 1783 01:17:26,940 --> 01:17:29,159 resolution number four 1784 01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:32,400 a resolution one accepting a 25 000 1785 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,239 Grant from the AARP Community challenge 1786 01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:40,140 to transform Morrison alley and its 1787 01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:42,659 pocket park into a vibrant public space 1788 01:17:42,659 --> 01:17:45,360 and two authorizing a mayor or his 1789 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,880 designee to complete and sign related 1790 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,460 documents Charles barsher 1791 01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:52,380 good evening good evening this is 1792 01:17:52,380 --> 01:17:53,520 actually one that we brought to the 1793 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,040 council at the end of February and we 1794 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:57,179 were absolutely delighted a couple of 1795 01:17:57,179 --> 01:17:58,800 weeks ago to receive word that we will 1796 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,199 be receiving our grant we had originally 1797 01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:03,020 applied for fifty thousand dollars 1798 01:18:03,020 --> 01:18:05,280 apparently this was the most competitive 1799 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,140 year they've ever had there's over like 1800 01:18:07,140 --> 01:18:08,880 3 000 grants 1801 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,000 so we're delighted to get 25 000. we're 1802 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,500 going to reduce the scope a bit this 1803 01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:15,239 will probably be more focused on the 1804 01:18:15,239 --> 01:18:16,739 pocket park that's at the end of 1805 01:18:16,739 --> 01:18:18,780 Morrison alley off of Cyprus then the 1806 01:18:18,780 --> 01:18:20,120 whole alley 1807 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,140 and as we kind of come up with some 1808 01:18:22,140 --> 01:18:23,460 ideas we'll be bringing those to the 1809 01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:25,140 council and to the community for for 1810 01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:27,840 input there's no match requirement 1811 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,040 okay 1812 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,920 anyone from the public 1813 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,100 any questions from anyone on the council 1814 01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:37,140 Pledge of the council motion to approve 1815 01:18:37,140 --> 01:18:41,649 second 1816 01:18:41,659 --> 01:18:44,699 Andrews aye councilman divitarian aye 1817 01:18:44,699 --> 01:18:46,620 councilwoman Gonzalez aye councilman 1818 01:18:46,620 --> 01:18:49,140 Leon aye councilman Wells 1819 01:18:49,140 --> 01:18:52,260 aye resolution number five a resolution 1820 01:18:52,260 --> 01:18:54,719 authorizing the purchase of 26 1821 01:18:54,719 --> 01:18:57,540 bulletproof vests for Hammond police 1822 01:18:57,540 --> 01:19:02,040 officers from RSG wholesale at a cost of 1823 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:09,550 27 841 under State contract 1824 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,780 4400-25826 will be made with twenty 1825 01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:14,219 three thousand six hundred dollars 1826 01:19:14,219 --> 01:19:17,400 ninety seven cents okay 1827 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,960 anyone from the public have any 1828 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,360 questions on this item 1829 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,520 Council 1830 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,679 Pledge of the council promotion to 1831 01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:28,260 approve second 1832 01:19:28,260 --> 01:19:29,820 it is in alignment with the State 1833 01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:31,500 offices I know it's a little confusing 1834 01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:33,600 this year the way the calendar fell the 1835 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,300 federal holiday is on Monday so the city 1836 01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:38,100 will be open on Monday but closed this 1837 01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:41,340 Friday June 27th at our next council 1838 01:19:41,340 --> 01:19:43,159 meeting we will be taking up the budget 1839 01:19:43,159 --> 01:19:46,260 hopefully for some final votes our plan 1840 01:19:46,260 --> 01:19:48,300 is to have the Amendments that we went 1841 01:19:48,300 --> 01:19:50,580 through at the budget work session to 1842 01:19:50,580 --> 01:19:52,140 the council by the end of business 1843 01:19:52,140 --> 01:19:54,780 tomorrow so that you can have that list 1844 01:19:54,780 --> 01:19:57,060 again if you have additional we are 1845 01:19:57,060 --> 01:20:00,300 having fireworks for July 4th they are 1846 01:20:00,300 --> 01:20:03,300 on July 4th so the celebration is at 1847 01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:05,340 zimmery park we usually start around 1848 01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:07,380 five o'clock with different food vendors 1849 01:20:07,380 --> 01:20:09,659 and adeatables and a climbing wall for 1850 01:20:09,659 --> 01:20:11,820 the kids and lots of fun so 1851 01:20:11,820 --> 01:20:14,580 Lacey will we adjust the budget with an 1852 01:20:14,580 --> 01:20:16,080 amendment showing the removal of the 1853 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,179 revenue so we can expect an amendment we 1854 01:20:18,179 --> 01:20:22,669 will do okay yes 1855 01:20:22,679 --> 01:20:24,719 any accountable reports 1856 01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:28,750 yes 1857 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,320 the kids 1858 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,360 all the young people are killing one 1859 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,870 another 1860 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,820 we protecting everybody 1861 01:20:37,820 --> 01:20:43,209 but we're not protecting the kids 1862 01:20:43,219 --> 01:20:48,229 we need to sit down 1863 01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:51,300 come up with something with the police 1864 01:20:51,300 --> 01:20:53,750 department 1865 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,620 the city councilman the city 1866 01:20:55,620 --> 01:20:57,739 Administration 1867 01:20:57,739 --> 01:21:00,719 everybody that got killed 1868 01:21:00,719 --> 01:21:03,300 it affected my community and I know the 1869 01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:04,440 people 1870 01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:06,480 either they killed somebody or somebody 1871 01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:08,100 that got killed 1872 01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:11,159 and what we don't realize 1873 01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:14,400 is happening in my community today 1874 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,560 but tomorrow can affect your community 1875 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,600 so 1876 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,120 we see what's going on in New Orleans we 1877 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,520 see what's going on in Baton Rouge at 1878 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,219 one time the city could say we never had 1879 01:21:26,219 --> 01:21:28,080 nobody get killed in Hammond we never 1880 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,300 had nobody get killed in Hammond 1881 01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:34,490 the gun violence is out of control 1882 01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:38,340 the news station called me yesterday 1883 01:21:38,340 --> 01:21:40,620 about the last person got killed in 1884 01:21:40,620 --> 01:21:41,880 Hammond 1885 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,440 and 1886 01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:45,480 I'm not going to talk about nothing that 1887 01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:47,520 I don't know nothing about 1888 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,080 but 1889 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,600 we as the citizens 1890 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,010 we as the people 1891 01:21:55,020 --> 01:21:57,719 we need to sit down and talk 1892 01:21:57,719 --> 01:22:00,780 if it's going on in my neighborhood 1893 01:22:00,780 --> 01:22:02,460 eventually they're going to come to your 1894 01:22:02,460 --> 01:22:04,560 neighborhood and just like we talk about 1895 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,540 the open yard 1896 01:22:06,540 --> 01:22:08,760 that didn't affect the blacks 1897 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,880 but we talked about it and we voted for 1898 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:13,020 Stuff 1899 01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:15,719 we sued companies 1900 01:22:15,719 --> 01:22:18,120 nice in my community 1901 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,760 I want to hear these same conversation I 1902 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,340 want to hear these same laws let's talk 1903 01:22:23,340 --> 01:22:25,860 about this 1904 01:22:25,860 --> 01:22:27,780 it hurts 1905 01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:30,719 that's what I come up here for 1906 01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:32,940 true and it's sad 1907 01:22:32,940 --> 01:22:34,980 a couple months ago it was in Martin 1908 01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:37,320 Luther King Park 1909 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:38,640 now 1910 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,350 it's up around the University 1911 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,880 and it's so much taking place that we 1912 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,280 don't even hear about it that is going 1913 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:48,300 on 1914 01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:51,540 the four-wheelers the dirt bikes 1915 01:22:51,540 --> 01:22:54,540 everything I talk about 1916 01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:56,100 is taking place 1917 01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:58,080 when that four-wheeler kills somebody 1918 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,360 that looked like you 1919 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,400 when that dirt bike killed somebody with 1920 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,860 the rules right now community 1921 01:23:04,860 --> 01:23:07,460 we see