1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:06,720 Nope. >> Is anybody watching online? 2 00:00:04,319 --> 00:00:13,240 » Good evening. This is the meeting of the hand townhouse committee meeting and we 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,240 think tonight 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,560 6:05 p.m. They stand for the 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:31,039 » flag of one nation 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:36,120 of liberties and justice. >> Anyone else recording the meeting other 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,120 than ourselves 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,760 people? Okay. What was recording? Please don't 9 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:51,440 res have any motions to get started with 10 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:57,600 that. I won't even get them started. No, >> I I have a couple things I'd say. I was 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:03,039 looking up. Okay, first of let's do this. First of all, the the RFI has gone 12 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:12,320 out the request for post town website. The Times is going to 13 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:15,040 do an article on it next week. Um the >> So it will come out next week. 14 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,960 » Yeah. Come out next week. >> Next Thursday. 15 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,960 » So that's still 16 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:29,759 » Are you going to post anything else? >> I tried and it just sat there so I 17 00:01:26,479 --> 00:01:33,520 deleted it. I'm gonna redo it. Maybe I'll redo it tonight or tomorrow 18 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:37,360 evening. So I think it gets the most visibility. 19 00:01:35,759 --> 00:01:41,280 in the evening. >> So the deadline for that is uh September 20 00:01:40,479 --> 00:01:47,439 21st >> that it's got to be back be back. It is 21 00:01:43,759 --> 00:01:52,119 a the date for site visit if anyone's interested is 16 22 00:01:52,720 --> 00:02:01,119 meaning if somebody were interested in they raise it up take a look. 23 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:04,479 » So so where does it where does it go to? I know it's on the town website, but 24 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,800 where does he actually mail that to? There's a big uh government site, right? 25 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,760 » It goes to that goes to that >> and that's where these people would be 26 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:16,959 looking >> so com they call it comb by looking. 27 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,280 » All right. >> And that's out there now. 28 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:25,520 » It's out there now. >> Good. Okay. Uh 29 00:02:22,239 --> 00:02:29,640 » nothing so far. >> I know. I know. 30 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:37,160 » Just wondering It'll be a long time >> meeting warrant articles. 31 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:48,800 I'm wondering if town g I gave the select we reserve they reserve the spots 32 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:53,920 meeting warrants we can revise them or add to them 33 00:02:51,120 --> 00:03:00,720 now and second October. 34 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:04,720 Is this a good jumping off point for having a second public forum? You mean 35 00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:08,640 before the town meeting? >> Yeah. 36 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:09,680 » I don't know. >> I 37 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,400 » I don't know if we even >> I don't know. 38 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:18,720 » I think we need to make clear to this town is 39 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:21,920 that building is really, you know, if they're thinking about if they're 40 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:26,959 thinking about saving that building, they better think really hard because 41 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:31,519 that building's in really bad shape. Well, what if um if I were to post 42 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:38,640 something on Facebook like in the next day or two? What if we kind of gauge 43 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:43,760 feedback or interaction on that to see like what we're getting for responses 44 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,400 from the people article? 45 00:03:44,239 --> 00:03:48,480 » No, the I was going to post the RFI. Yeah. 46 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,840 » Just to make it available. Then I can do like a followup 47 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:56,400 » with the Warren article. >> Yeah, sure. And just to like kind of 48 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:02,000 gauge feedback to see like if people are all up in arms or people are not 49 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:05,439 responding or not paying attention or you can kind of maybe 50 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:10,000 » you don't want people voting with their heart thinking, "Oh, we're going to save 51 00:04:06,959 --> 00:04:12,560 this building and then we save it and all of a sudden they're like, "Oh my 52 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,880 god." >> Didn't you say last time that as these 53 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:20,239 are written if if this one comes up first? 54 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:23,840 » Right. the first one comes up first and that passes 55 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:26,080 » then the second two are dead. Correct. >> So I think I think people that need to 56 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:29,520 be very clear. >> Well I feel like I really to be honest 57 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,759 with you feel like and I talked I said this last time. I think we should 58 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,240 combine one or two and then we only have >> two. 59 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:42,240 » We only have two and here here's what I wrote. Just listen what I'm saying. 60 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:46,000 This would be the all-encompassing one. to see if the town will vote to 61 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:52,160 authorize select for to evaluate and pursue options for the future of the old 62 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:56,720 town hall, including but not limited to seeking qualified buyers and appreciate 63 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:01,680 potential sale, obtaining ownership and exploring public private partnerships, 64 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:05,520 lease or lease back arrangements, or any other economic development 65 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:09,199 opportunities. and to authorize the select board to appoint an economic 66 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:13,360 development committee to assist in evaluating these options and making 67 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:20,080 recommendations to so all that did was said [clears throat] 68 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:23,360 but isn't that where we are now? Well, if you're 69 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:26,639 » we are but but we but it's this one the first one says see if the town vote to 70 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:31,120 to seek buyers to enter into negotiations. How you're saying you told 71 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:36,080 me that if this first one passes the second two are moved, right? So then 72 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:41,120 there's no economic there's no economic development committee. There's no uh 73 00:05:39,039 --> 00:05:44,400 looking to explore other options for that building. It's just to go out and 74 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:48,720 try and sell. That's what we're doing right now. We're trying to sell it. 75 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:54,800 » You could you could separate this one the second one out and say have the 76 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,639 selected point A >> ready 77 00:05:55,919 --> 00:06:00,199 » economic >> development comma. 78 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:04,560 » That's right. >> Right. Right. 79 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:06,240 » Well, I'd like to see that come out of this meeting. 80 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:10,639 » Okay. >> So, you can make another warn article. 81 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:14,479 So, I'm saying you could warn article be to see if the town was to sell the bill 82 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,240 and there'll be discussion about and they'll talk about why do how much money 83 00:06:17,039 --> 00:06:21,360 are we going to get for it? Well, we had a guy look at it. He said you're going 84 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:25,360 to get a buck for it. You know, maybe someone will buy it, but it's gonna 85 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:28,960 that'll mean they can do whatever they want with it. They can tear it down or 86 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:35,280 we could maybe put some caveats on there, right? Whatever. So if they let's 87 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,880 say they vote no, right? They vote no. So you go to the next one 88 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:43,680 to see if the town will vote to retain ownership of the building and property 89 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:49,440 at 625 Main Street formally known as the Hen Town House authorized select board 90 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:53,680 to explore opportunities for the town to enter a public private partnership. skip 91 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:59,360 the economic development and create a separate war article to create an 92 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:03,880 economic development committee to study what we can do all the mainstreaming. 93 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:11,759 So, so if they so if they said yes on that it wouldn't knock out the economic 94 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:18,160 development. I understand. >> But if when this is being read, 95 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:25,919 is the whole thing being read through so that all the options are read aloud 96 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:29,599 » and then people go in >> the one now. But before it's going to be 97 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,319 in the book, >> but unless people read beforehand, then 98 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,080 they're not going to know. Are they going to be told like if you vote on 99 00:07:35,599 --> 00:07:38,080 this? >> Yeah. 100 00:07:36,479 --> 00:07:43,080 » The following are dead. >> There's this like Rick would say there's 101 00:07:39,919 --> 00:07:43,080 three more. 102 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:50,160 » If you vote for If you vote yes on the first one, the other two are there will 103 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:54,080 be no action. >> If you vote no on this first one, it 104 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:58,160 will go to the second. >> Does it have to be read like that? You 105 00:07:55,919 --> 00:08:00,960 can't read all three. >> Pretty cut and dry. 106 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:05,680 » But they wouldn't know. I wouldn't know what the they would 107 00:08:02,479 --> 00:08:07,840 » they'll be all confused. >> So I didn't see I didn't see. So you're 108 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,680 really asking >> that's a multiple choice question and 109 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:13,919 then you're being like here's a yes or no before you know what B and C are. 110 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,080 » I know. >> Well, I think the logic the logic is 111 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,479 that if you if you uh >> Yeah, but if you did the multiple choice 112 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,240 question, right, then what would you do? You would have to say 113 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:31,360 » you vote you vote for one of the three. Every 114 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:34,399 » vote, right? And then >> I don't think I don't think 115 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:36,800 » well >> you'd have to have a real voting thing 116 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:43,120 to do that. >> Trying to do here is the last one is is 117 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:46,480 where is where the people would vote to say I want to keep it and I want to 118 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:50,959 restore it and I'm willing to spend the money. That's the last one. But if you 119 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,959 combine the first two, all you're doing when I the way I combined this here is 120 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:59,680 saying that the sale part of it is part of that warrant. You're not You don't 121 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:02,240 have to split it in half. Can I read it again? 122 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:07,440 » Well, here's what I'm here, Tad. What I'm thinking on that is you got a lot in 123 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:11,440 that one Warren article. It's it's it's it's cumbersome because you got the 124 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,519 economic development council of the second half. 125 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,320 » Okay, that could come out, I guess, because So, like like Don said, I almost 126 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,600 said, >> yeah, it's kind of worded different. So, 127 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:25,040 like Don said, you take the economic development out of that out of this 128 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:28,800 warrant and and that would be the fourth the fourth thing that comes on and and 129 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,800 then that way that's going to get voted on. Yes or no? There's no there's no 130 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,480 messing around with whatever. >> Would that be tied into our articles or 131 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:40,480 would that be separate? >> Separate. 132 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:44,160 » Would it come before this or after? >> It probably have to come. 133 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:50,959 » Okay. I think you make it very simple with that uh Warren article that the 134 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:55,279 select board assembled an economic development council. That's it. Don't 135 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:58,720 identify where it's going to be. You know, 136 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:04,160 » broad enough that we can we can you know >> well there but and I'm I'm only playing 137 00:10:00,959 --> 00:10:08,480 devil's advocate, but so you say will the town be willing to vote to 138 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:14,079 establish an economic council? So I'm going to Okay. Wait, what? Who's who's 139 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,839 on the council and what exactly is it are you going to do? 140 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,440 » Well, then you have >> then then you have then you have a lot 141 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:23,519 of questions come. I think you >> I think since we don't have anything in 142 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:26,720 town, I think we should include all like you you want to include all the 143 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:32,560 businesses that already exist so they can balance off of what the potential 144 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:36,240 businesses are. You don't want to exclude them. 145 00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:39,760 » No, no. I That's right. I'm not saying you'd have to put anybody, but I'm 146 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:45,440 saying that if you make that All I'm saying is if you make that article just 147 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:51,120 a line that says have the the board appoint an economic counselor. 148 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:55,279 That That's a pretty broad swipe. Yeah. And I think I get it. But but I think 149 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:58,399 people will ask questions. Who >> what are they going to do? Yeah. You 150 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:02,560 know, is there is >> I would handle that. I would I'd be 151 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:04,640 willing I would be willing to to answer that. 152 00:11:02,959 --> 00:11:09,040 » Yes. But I think that's a good conversation starter about and getting 153 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:12,480 getting interest raised. And if you leave it very broad, 154 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:17,760 » yeah, you leave it I think it should be very broad. 155 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:21,360 » An economic development council. >> Here's maybe another idea. I'm again I'm 156 00:11:19,839 --> 00:11:27,839 just winging this out there. You could stand up before that happens and you 157 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:32,880 could say, "We've spent eight months looking into what we could do at the 158 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:39,200 town hall and we just voted on one one option and we've we've got a lot of 159 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:44,160 things floating around and we that we would like to start an economic council 160 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:48,320 to kind of look into not only the town hall and options there but in that area 161 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,760 as well." >> Yeah. and and then then you just then 162 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:55,120 you just leave it at that. So, we have a we have a warn article that we've placed 163 00:11:53,680 --> 00:12:00,640 out there to start that economic counseling and and then then at least 164 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:04,560 there's some context and explanation for what you're trying to do. Does that make 165 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:08,320 any sense? >> Yeah, I think it should be broad. 166 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:12,000 » It has to be broad and your and your speech has to be very narrow and focused 167 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,480 and no flying cars. >> No 168 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:18,079 » flying cars. No delay. >> No, you got to talk theoretical. It's 169 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,480 theoretical. That's what this committee is. I think we got to settle on these 170 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:29,200 things and then move on. >> I have a question. Um, as far as that 171 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:33,519 committee, a lot of business owners don't live in 172 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:38,079 town. So, are they available to participate? 173 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:42,160 » You mean the economic council? >> Yeah. So, say like the owner of like the 174 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:45,519 village Mark doesn't live in town, but they are interested. 175 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:49,959 » That's a good question. But like so something like this you have to be a 176 00:12:46,959 --> 00:12:49,959 resident. 177 00:12:50,079 --> 00:12:56,079 » So is there any >> I think well if you like you have to be 178 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:59,200 a resident or a business owner or >> well the vote you do yeah 179 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,240 » but you know what I'm saying. >> Yeah I I see exactly what you're saying 180 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,760 business >> but I would think the structure of that 181 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,480 is yet to be laid out but you could you could have you know you could invite 182 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,639 people to come in and >> that are current business owners. Well, 183 00:13:10,959 --> 00:13:20,160 I went to see the I went to see the treasurer uh Dick Patello and I I know 184 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:25,680 and I asked him about uh about having the town account, this new woman 185 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:28,399 who was there who I spoke to as well about being on this economic development 186 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,320 council. >> We got a new one. 187 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:35,279 » He said, >> but did she leave the one that we had? 188 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:40,320 » She's leaving this week >> or did she already leave? 189 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,639 » Sure. account. 190 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,079 » Okay. >> She left 191 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:50,240 the end of September. >> Okay. Well, yeah. So, so what did they 192 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,120 say? >> He said she could be on it, but she 193 00:13:51,839 --> 00:13:55,760 can't vote. >> She's not a res 194 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,279 » because she's not a resident. So, the same with the same true with the 195 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:03,519 businesses. If they're on a town committee, which is open meeting, they 196 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,959 can't vote. They can participate. >> I disagree with that. I would take it. 197 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:11,720 » Okay. I'm not saying [clears throat] it's 198 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,720 » because because the 199 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:21,920 the economic econ any of those things economic development council or even 200 00:14:17,839 --> 00:14:23,839 this thing here right we can vote this is our recommendation 201 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:27,600 » right >> but that's got to go select one of the 202 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:31,519 town meeting who has the final vote to do it 203 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:34,560 » you know so you know you so it's not what the hell we have outside 204 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,639 consultants come in >> yep 205 00:14:34,959 --> 00:14:39,680 » for the fire station and everything else. 206 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:42,079 » We don't want to get too deep into the weeds on the economic council structure 207 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:47,440 of China. >> No, we that's what we're going to do. 208 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:51,600 » And so we'll make up a warrant article that just is one line item, one one 209 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:55,760 sentence. >> See, the reality of it is if you say 210 00:14:53,440 --> 00:15:00,800 then that first one that we want to sell it, right? And then someone comes and 211 00:14:58,079 --> 00:15:07,040 say, "Geez, I'll buy it, but I want to be as part of the deal. I want the town 212 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:10,480 to be a part of the partnership. >> Okay? 213 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:18,480 » You know what I mean? I the reality that's the reality of of of a uh of it. 214 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Someone might buy it or someone might want to partner with the town. 215 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:27,120 That's what it comes down to. >> So, you're saying you want to add the 216 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:31,199 cell his first thing. 217 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,399 » What's the last one? You're saying the last one is to see if the town will vote 218 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:38,560 to retain ownership of the building, formerly known as the Tandle Town Hall, 219 00:15:36,639 --> 00:15:42,320 and further develop the property for historic, culture, educational, civic 220 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:48,720 purposes. That's basically that we we keep it and we spend money. 221 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:51,040 » It would be private money partnership. 222 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:55,839 » I think you go through all of them just the way I I'm not convinced you you put 223 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:58,160 the two together, Ted. You know, I'm thinking 224 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:02,880 » I'm fine with that. I just um >> do we have time to wait until a next 225 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:07,120 meeting with like the broader >> or do we need I'm going to say again, do 226 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,320 we even need to have these people vote on this? We've got the RFI out there 227 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:14,399 now. >> We we're looking for somebody to buy 228 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:18,959 this place. Why are we voting to see if somebody wants us the town wants us to 229 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:24,639 do that because we can't do anything with the building. 230 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:27,600 » Exactly. So if we find somebody, >> it's still got to be voted on. Joe said, 231 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:30,639 "Yeah, I want to buy this." >> Got to be voted on 232 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:34,079 » and uh I'm going to give you a million dollars for it. Right. It has to go to 233 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,959 the >> vote go the vote will go through through 234 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:43,519 it to go to the town. This just says this see if they would authorize 235 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:47,920 buyers enter the negotiations to the town. 236 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,880 So my point is if we're out there looking for a buyer right now, we're not 237 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,959 looking for buyer. >> We're looking for information. But so 238 00:16:53,199 --> 00:17:00,560 like we're starting to dig around in the bushes for a while. And so if we 239 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,680 » we've already got that going. I I guess again I'm I'm wondering why are we going 240 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:07,199 to have people vote on this thing before we really 241 00:17:04,959 --> 00:17:11,120 » we don't have all the roots because because I think we need a more 242 00:17:09,439 --> 00:17:13,760 definitive direction. >> Yeah. 243 00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:17,760 » If they say sell it, >> we vote to sell it. Then we can forget 244 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:19,280 about >> everything else. 245 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,280 » Anything else? >> Yeah. Well, then but then we'd have our 246 00:17:20,959 --> 00:17:26,400 third our our fourth warrant says, you know, start the economic council, which 247 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:31,039 would then >> But I mean, if you get an overwhelming 248 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:34,480 lean either way from the voters, it kind of will dictate the future, I 249 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:39,559 think, of what we're doing. >> Exactly. 250 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,559 With that being said, 251 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:47,360 » if so, say this goes through and then like a someone comes out with a 252 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:50,320 proposal, does it have to wait to until the springtime meeting or can there be a 253 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,760 special meeting? >> Special time special. Yeah. 254 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,160 » So, we can hold a special town meeting any time. 255 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:59,919 » So, if a buyer were to come out for this, say in like December, we can hold 256 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,880 a meeting to figure out what to do. That way, they're not tied, 257 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,720 » right? Yes. So, so >> it's possible that people will vote yes 258 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:09,600 on the first one and yes on the second one. They don't get to vote on those. 259 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,559 That's right. If they vote yes on the first one, then the other two are 260 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:14,960 » all done. But here's the thing. Second. >> No, that's what we were that's what 261 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,200 we're asking at the beginning. >> Yeah. You vote number one. That's it. 262 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:20,240 » You vote. >> Yeah. That's you're not going to have 263 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,480 the other votes, >> right? 264 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,000 » Nope. Because it's already been But so the second one is but the second one is 265 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,440 really all about the economic development committee. So that one 266 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:33,360 almost is dead. this economic development, but it's going to go down 267 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:38,720 here as a separate item, right? So, this second warrant is is really kind of 268 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:44,559 » So, the second one is to see if the town will vote to retain ownership, keep it, 269 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:50,880 retain ownership of the building and property and you know, blah blah and 270 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:57,600 enter into, you know, explore opportunities or public partnership. So, 271 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:04,880 they want to sell it, it's done. If they say no, we want we want to retain the 272 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:10,120 ownership. See if you can't find Joe's, you know, big sale to invest in the 273 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:10,120 building. 274 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:16,320 You know, >> I I'm going to say again, I I feel like 275 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,440 we've I think those two should just be combined together. 276 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,360 » One, you talk about one and two, right? Combining them. Well, 277 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,440 » how about >> I'm almost almost agreeing with them. 278 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,919 If we could add part of that into the first one, like we'd have two options in 279 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,720 one. >> Then you're not then you're not kicking 280 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,520 ourselves out, >> right? 281 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,960 » That's right. >> We'd have two options in one. 282 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:41,039 » Well, that's right. That's what I mean. Selling it and looking into lease backs 283 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:45,120 and other plans is all one big thing. So if you said you you're the first one, 284 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:51,120 you know, you're going to authorize sweatboard by enter into negotiations 285 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:55,760 and explore opportunities for the town to 286 00:19:53,600 --> 00:20:00,080 enter into public private partnerships, lease or lease back. It's that last 287 00:19:57,679 --> 00:20:04,880 sentence goes to take out then you got to take out retainership. 288 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:09,760 » Right. But but if we could combine those two 289 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,160 and keep the third one, >> I see what you're saying. 290 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:15,840 » That's an A+. We >> need to re rearrange these. 291 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:20,160 » Well, you Okay. So, the second one is to retain ownership, 292 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 but you take out this the economic council part. Right. 293 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,960 » Right. >> Yeah. 294 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:29,360 » So, you'd say to see if the town both to retain ownership of the building known 295 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:33,679 as the town hall and you're going to take this out of economic development 296 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:38,559 » right here. Yeah. And then you're going to say notice the 297 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:45,280 townhouse >> development committee subs. 298 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:49,919 » It is I get it. So the so the town so the town can explore opportunities 299 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:54,000 » to enter into public private partnerships lease or lease back 300 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,880 something to that effect. But the but this economic development 301 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:02,799 » get rid of that part. And then down here, it's just wherever that falls into 302 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:07,600 the the book is to see if the to see if the town will vote and have the select 303 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:10,400 board authorize >> the development 304 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:12,720 » economic development committee. That's it. 305 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:16,840 » Council I don't like >> council committee. Council 306 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:22,080 a little better council. >> Yeah, council. You know 307 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:27,760 corporation >> you get jackets 308 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:32,080 economic development commission. >> What is a better term? Economic 309 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:36,000 development council or economic development commission. What has more 310 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,880 gravitas? >> I would stick with the council. I would 311 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:45,520 go commission. That's >> like council. Commission maybe sounds 312 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:50,400 but commission sounds kind of more um >> committed. Committed kind of like 313 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,240 like >> more permanent. 314 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:56,480 » Yeah, it's like >> well the Warren Commission wasn't very 315 00:21:53,919 --> 00:22:01,039 permanent. It's just together for a certain time. I like either one council 316 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,720 because I'm thinking about the jackets now. What are the jackets going to look 317 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:08,600 like? The words are so big. 318 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:16,440 » You're lucky we get we get t-shirts. >> We'll get t-shirts of anything. 319 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:21,520 But I think that's a good idea trying to combine those two 320 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:26,320 » in smaller towns and cities and councils >> then leave the third one in there. 321 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,320 » This is because they're representing 322 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,840 » no one's going to go for that. >> Larger cities commission system may be 323 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:37,240 more offended. >> Where I used to say I 324 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,280 think the town will go for I think the town. 325 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,679 » So we're going to work those come back. We got to have a We need a second public 326 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:49,679 forum. >> I I don't That's the question. Do you 327 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,039 want a second? >> No, I don't. 328 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:55,600 » I would vote no on that. I mean, what are we asking? What do we say? We trying 329 00:22:54,799 --> 00:23:00,080 to educate them. >> I think the only thing we'll be doing is 330 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:04,640 is educating educating them on what what they want out of it. I think we get more 331 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:08,960 feedback on social media than at the forum and there's more interaction and 332 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:14,080 more conversation and people have time to like think about it and 333 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,120 get back and view other people's comments. 334 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:23,760 » So you're thinking when we do the RFI do the RFI and where you put it 335 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:29,760 » in the open forum and the community forum and 336 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:33,440 maybe there's like older ham one. I don't know if that will cross anything. 337 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,600 Um, >> and then 338 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:42,000 » and then when we get our warrant articles solidified, 339 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:45,840 » I would probably post them all at once and then maybe we can break it down and 340 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:50,240 post like option one and like more detail about 341 00:23:48,159 --> 00:23:54,720 that, option two, more detail about that. Like do them separately just to 342 00:23:52,480 --> 00:24:00,080 give information to people. >> Yeah. Yeah. 343 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:03,919 And and obviously would you put let's say you're going to 344 00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:08,799 do let's say the third one says a good example to see if the town to retain 345 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,799 ownership then underneath that you would say 346 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:20,640 resident need to know that retaining ownership is going to cost 347 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:23,679 » tax implications taxations >> or whatever however that comes out right 348 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,840 » so that they know when they vote for that that there's there's there's 349 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:31,279 dollars attached because I'd rather have educated I think it's our responsibility 350 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,799 too to have educated voters coming here to make a decision 351 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:42,559 » like I think that's what we're doing >> yeah I agree what you're saying um did 352 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:47,360 we did we yank the tear it down off the off the 353 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:49,520 » Yes we did I mean I know we did >> somebody's gonna say why don't we just 354 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,760 tear it down >> well you're always going to have those 355 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,080 people >> see there wasn't much interest in that 356 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,200 option >> no 357 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,080 » no >> very little interest in that option. 358 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:04,240 » Okay. >> Well, and you know what? In the end, if 359 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:09,600 all five years of all fail in the end, if all this goes goes down the tubes in 360 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:14,720 a year, I'm fine. Chris, that's a long time, but whatever the end of that 361 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:19,200 commission would be, okay, we tried, we didn't make it, and now we've got that 362 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:23,760 building, and I think we need >> by that means fail the other stuff in 363 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:26,960 front. >> I don't think that's what that thinks. I 364 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:30,400 think that help people. >> So, we're not going to do the public 365 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:35,360 forum. So, the other one was continuing discussion on future future use options. 366 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,360 Do you want to do that tonight? Do you want to discuss that some of those? 367 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:42,640 » I think that should be for your economic counsel too. 368 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:46,240 » I don't know why we talk about that. I think I'll be honest with you and I was 369 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:52,240 going to bring this up. I think we should I think this committee's 370 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:56,000 business should be ended. It's the night at the end of the town hall meeting. I 371 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,640 agree with you 100%. >> I think we should we should leave we 372 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,760 should be done with that and it moves into the economic council. Not I'm not 373 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:08,159 saying we're all on that. I'm just saying we're done and the economic 374 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,360 council has moved forward >> and we really I think we've done 375 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:16,159 » like I [clears throat] say I think we're getting that wits end already. 376 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:20,159 » In fact once we get those figured out we're cruising into the town meeting and 377 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,039 » see what happens. >> And kind of being done you think? 378 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,440 » Yeah. Yep. >> Okay. Are you with me? 379 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,480 » Yeah, I'm I'm >> That's four votes. So, we'll get one 380 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,679 more. So, we I'm not saying we have to put tonight saying I think that's where 381 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:35,840 we're headed. >> Don't you agree? 382 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:38,159 » Yes. Okay. >> 100%. 383 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:41,039 » I don't know. >> We make a motion. I'll make a motion to 384 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,520 adjurnn. >> I'll second it. 385 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,919 » There we go. All >> in favor? I 386 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,799 » I >> Oh, that was quick. 387 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,360 » No, I think I think what we got right now is right where we should be. 388 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,039 » Yeah, >> I'm with you. Thank you. had early.