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All right, it is 6 o'clock. We're going to start the meeting by a pledge to the party.

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All right.

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Public announcements, please check out the new website, www.hantstatnh.us and sign up for notifications, and please silence your cell phone during the meeting. First up, we have Laura Jones.

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and such representative for CARP, the Cooperative Alliance for Regional Transportation.

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Nice to meet you.

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Yeah, come on up.

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Nice to meet you all.

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All right, Mike.

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Did you want to tee this part off?

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Well, the only thing I can add to it is that this is a follow-up from your previous meeting,

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and it's trips versus riders.

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How many people are within 500 and so many trips?

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Which is the spreadsheet that you provided aboard?

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Correct.

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So, just to recap, when we talked with this last time,

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carte advised us that there was going to be a fairly significant increase in the cost

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of service.

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Right?

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I believe, looking at our notes from previously, the cost originally, this past year was $17,142

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dollars and the increase is proposed at $45,000, $6.

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So a pretty substantial increase and what we had asked was to get kind of drilled down

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on the numbers to see what we saw in the way of ridership in our area and just talk about

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what other options might be available.

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So I appreciate you bringing these numbers in for us.

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Can you talk a little bit about ridership and how it's changing over time or what you're

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seeing in the way of who's using it, how often they're using it?

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I don't want to get specific, I know the numbers can be relatively small so we want to protect

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someone's privacy but it looks like you've given us a pretty good breakdown of what types

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of services you're providing.

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So, as we look at this, it's easy to see that the majority are medical-related, which

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obviously is, well, all of it is about most importance to us.

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I did get a little bit more information, I did get that in the past three months, we basically

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have, Hampstead has eight repeat writers.

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And again, the majority of them, I think seven of them, were medical.

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They certainly can't tell us who they are, but that's what they are.

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So you can probably understand that, you know, we talk about 574 total rides, but when

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we sort of drill down on those numbers, those are one way trips.

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So we're really talking closer to 280 round trip and drilling down further that we average

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about eight repeat riders.

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While we want to accommodate those people who clearly need transportation services, especially

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working under the budget circumstances that we are $47,000 for the benefit of eight residents

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is a challenging figure.

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Well, it's eight residents,

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and again, that was eight repeat riders

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over a three-month period.

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That doesn't mean that every four, five months,

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one or two or six other people need.

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Sure.

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For a single visit.

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Absolutely.

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And that's a real need, too.

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Absolutely.

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And the shopping, transportation is a vital service,

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especially for our older adults and our veterans

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because it doesn't matter to have health insurance if you can't get to the doctor.

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And it also helps with isolation, it helps them say independent in their homes,

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so I get that it's a vital service.

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Right after you originally got the presentation from CART

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that report came out, the larger sort of New Hampshire's community transportation action plan,

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which you've seen.

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And it talks about the challenges of transportation in general in the state of New Hampshire.

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And we have very limited public transportation.

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But it also mentions that the legislation is there to enable a network that the funding,

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especially with the new GO North funding, is there.

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And from things like Medicaid, etc.

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there is, and other insurance sources that there is funding available, but what

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seems to be lacking is a coordinating function at the state level. And as

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somebody who complains a lot about overreach by the state, this is one of

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those opportunities where coordination at the state level would be a benefit to

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Hampson residents because, and to other residents in the state, especially in the

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north country where transportation is even more limited. Have you had any role in this

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working group that's been working on the action plan and the needs assessment for the

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larger transportation plan? Has CART been involved in that at all? I personally have not.

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And I don't know. Well, I guess that means that CART has not, but CART is under the umbrella

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I don't know. I don't know the other agencies that get involved and the planning commission

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or anything like that. I just don't know. I did look up. I attended a webinar on this

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to explain sort of this 100 and God knows how many pages report that came out. 180's and

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it was a long report. It was great. It was very thorough. But and during the webinar

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They said, oh, you should go to your RCC, which is your regional coordinating center.

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And it turns out we're part of Region 8, and I went and I went to the website and looked

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up what kind of medical transport was available in our area, and except for CART, there was

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nothing else.

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So that was sort of distressing.

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And while we do have a regional coordinator listed, the supervising role over all of

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those regional coordinators is vacant.

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So I think that probably makes it quite a challenge too.

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But I'm looking forward to seeing how this report evolves

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if at all to assist you in tying together

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all of those financial resources that

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might be available to you besides coming to the town

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and asking for more funding.

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What I don't understand from sitting here

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is who is supposed to be chasing after this?

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Who's the one that's going to initiate,

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that's going to look for this,

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who's going to spearhead, pet it?

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I hope it's a call to action to our legislators.

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I would think that's where this has got to go

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because the enable and legislation,

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and am I supposed to go to the legislator?

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Well, it's in your financial interest as well as ours.

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I think as a region we need to do that,

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But I also think, yeah, I mean, I don't know why MTA is

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in going after the medical entities that are benefiting

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from getting these customers.

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And it's one of the reasons that agencies up north,

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hospital facilities are cutting their programs

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because they can't get customers there,

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so they can't do billing, and so they cut programs.

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Dialysis closes down in the north country,

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and then whoever needed it up there has got to come down here.

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And they have even fewer resources.

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So, I understand the problem, but I just, you know, looking at the numbers, we got to find some way to support these riders.

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I totally agree. I just, it's a huge jump in our line item for that service.

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Well, it is. It is, but as you point out, what are the other options?

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Yeah.

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In the unfortunate pieces, it comes outside of our fiscal calendar.

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So we don't need our budget vote in until March.

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But this is something that didn't pop up last minute.

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This is something that Carter's been saying for a while.

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Well, when we talked to Carter last time,

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one of the things we said was,

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what are the money are you going after?

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Have you gone to the medical facilities?

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Part MTA gone after the medical facilities.

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You belong to a larger agency.

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MTA is a pretty good size option.

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But that's not how MTA operates.

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That's not their business.

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They're a transportation company.

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They're doing a service for Hampson, okay, at a fee,

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but they are a transportation company.

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And I think that's their distinction.

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That's what we do.

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You're a transportation company too, though, right?

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Me?

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Car?

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It is a service that MTA provides, yes.

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And only the five communities.

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What drove the class to, I'm sorry.

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No, just a door.

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What drove the class over a sharp period of time

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that accelerates so much?

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Well, I think that's one of our biggest problems

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is with, you know, if it went up 10%,

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if we could understand that,

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even maybe more than that with the gas situation,

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situation, whatever, what I mean, I mean, double the cost.

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Well, what happened is that for many years, and I can't tell you how many years it goes

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back before I was with CART, we were level-funded, okay, and all the towns were level-funded, and

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maybe we should have, the CART should have increased at that point, and there was some

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talk about it from what I understand. Again, it was before I joined the advisory board.

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But for whatever reasons like the dynamics within the town, they decided not to ask for

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the increase for a couple years. And then when COVID hit, the federal government gave a

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large amount of money. And all the sending towns still sent in the appropriations. So that's

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what created a surplus in the budget.

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And we worked off of that for a while.

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But now that's gone and the expenses have gone up.

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And what they say, and I have to take it at face value,

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it was, again, before I was there.

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But the increase would have been more than five years ago.

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And it just didn't happen.

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And then COVID happened.

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And then the extra money came in.

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And when the money came in, we didn't know how long it would be provided,

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how long the government would be doing this, giving the carous money.

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So that's where we are now.

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It sounds like an explanation, but it grant me that an

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increase would be expected

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under those circumstances, but we're still talking about doubling the cost.

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I mean, it's a very large increase, it's a very large increase absolutely.

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Do you say, will this give you a surplus that you have a amount that you like to carry

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on the books as surplus, and this will, are you building up the surplus, or is it a cost?

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No, at this point, we're using the surplus.

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plus. The interest in seeing the budget. You're all budget, but I was. Yeah. I was. We know about it. Yeah. Right.

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If I may, Mr. Chairman, I think the big answer to that is federal funding went away. And therefore, the cost is now downshifted to the local agencies again.

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Has card applied for any grants, for any services? I'm not that I'm aware of. No.

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I mean, I was thinking of the Alexander Eastman Foundation, which I think was one of the original

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grantors when the program began.

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I think they talked, I can't remember who, they did pursue, they inquired about a grant,

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and I can't remember who it was for, but it was, yes, we know you're important, but everybody

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else is asking for our money now, too.

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So, is Acconson not involved in this because they have their own program?

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Is that?

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I think Acconson might have been one of the original towns in Carc, and they have their own

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service and the volunteers.

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For that one, the money we've got almost by a tyrant.

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Yeah, but then you've got to have someone drive it.

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You've got to have someone coordinate all the volunteers.

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I actually looked into the cost of that, you'll look in probably 80,000 plus dollars because it needs to be ADA compliant.

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You need someone to schedule and you need volunteers to pick up and drop off.

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It's a logistical time-consuming project for someone to get into even as volunteers.

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and I know and put it all from the other communities with the increase because pretty much

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all there everybody got the pretty much. Everybody got the same proportional increase while the

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town stood. So you've been getting this from five different boards of select men no doubt. Pardon?

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You've been getting a brow bee that she's all here. I'll tell you what I know. I know that dairy and

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and London Dairy have agreed to the increase and Salem,

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so right now it's dairy,

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London Dairy, Salem and Hampstead, those are the four towns.

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And Salem is in a similar position

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where they're not sure,

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but also they're on a different fiscal bank artist.

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So this is their decision-making time too.

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So if we, because I was just,

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If we decide to move this forward, it's going to go on the ballot or into the budget and then they'll decide the budget committee will decide whether to try to cut it again or whatever we're going to do. So if we here say, yes, let's push this forward because we need to keep it because we really don't have any other alternatives because it doesn't sound like we can't replicate what they're doing for any sort of, there's no benefit to us to do that because it would just cost even more money. There's no other options.

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So, yes, while I kind of think of it as, yes, it only benefits eight people, but at the

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end of the day, when the majority of these are medical appointments and shopping, whether

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it's eight exactly, you know what I mean?

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It's eight repeats, right, and what I'd like to find out and I haven't yet, or the eight

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repeats meaning every week they go once or is a two or three times within a week. And part of the

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reason why I asked that question is because one thing that we talked about is we could consolidate

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our hours with car. We could ask them can you give us Monday mornings and Thursday afternoons

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And can we see if we can get out of the 8th repeat,

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7 of those addresses were to Derrick or London Derrick.

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So theoretically, we could consolidate that and use those hours more efficiently.

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Okay.

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Sure.

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Part did say that they would be willing to call our riders, those repeat riders, and

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see if they're willing to do that.

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I didn't want to tell them, yes, go ahead and do it.

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I wanted to make sure that that was something that could move forward.

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Well, I was, I mean, again, I guess to finish my thought from before was, if we, in the budget,

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if we decide, yes, we want to do this, but then it doesn't get approved in the budget or

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we don't.

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The funding is $20,000, and what we agree to, that just means you're going to, or it's car will reduce the amount of trips.

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Is it that cost? Or I just, what was stated if we continue with the $17,142, that would limit Hampstead to 1.26 hours per day.

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So, which is to one point six to one travel time problem?

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Per-per-one point six to two hours per day.

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Per day, right.

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And so, one of the things we said was similar to what you suggested.

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Okay, can we narrow that down to two days a week and we try to ask the writers that are regulars

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if they can, you know, narrow it down to using those, which is going to be hard for people

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doing medical schedules, I get, you know, to sort of demand a schedule.

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If you tell them that you're going to do that's the only day we can give you a ride right that maybe it either forces them to find them the transportation

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Such as

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Yeah, you know, I mean any other ride service or whatever or you know, we make it work

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Yeah as a reminder this is one of the few agencies that we continue to fund

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When we made the, across the board, budget cuts and cut all of the other social services.

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This was one of the few that we continued to fund because we do recognize how an important service is,

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what a valuable service it is, and that it's unduplicated anywhere else.

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But I guess just when we go through, because again, I don't see, for me personally, I don't see a way out of providing this.

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and if that's the number, right, it's the number,

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and I understand that I understand the rationale

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like everything else, right, that you've been able

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to hold, unfortunately, the grant money,

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while we all benefited from it,

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it held a lot of people's, they didn't plan for it

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as much as they should have down the road, right?

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I mean, that's every business community, whatever.

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So I would just say that as we move through the budget process,

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that you just have to make sure that people know that,

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But if we keep it at the same number, we might as well just get rid of it completely, because, you know.

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Okay, so I think, probably, if not definitely, our writers do not know, our Hampstead writers

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do not know that we're at this point, and they deserve to know.

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I can't call them, I don't know who they are, but I think we need to let people know somehow

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that this is a decision that has to be made and it affects them in a large way.

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If the 17,000 is what we keep it up, then it's the 1.62 hours.

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If the budget can handle more, they will increase the hours proportionally.

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A ride, the number of hours, it's where the ride originates from Manchester.

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It comes into Hampstead, picks up the Hampstead resident, drives to Derry, and that's half

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of the 1.62 hours.

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More than half, yeah.

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Sure.

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And that is December 31st.

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Yeah,

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so I mean, car MTA is saying we will take care of Hampstead

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until December 31st. Whatever requests are made, they will do the best to pick up hamps

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the residents. The problem months are January, February, and probably March. If I break

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down the $45,000, $6 into a 12-month payment schedule, you're looking at there's a discrepancy

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of about $11,251. That's what we would need to find between July 4th, January, February,

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much in order to keep the service at its current level. And if the vote is decided to do that

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through their vote in March, then the funds we would maintain whatever the current

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service will provide it right now. I think the residents need the riders need to know that

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immediately then. Yeah, right. Because that's not. So, if I may, when we were talking, was

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Is Manchester Transit going to notify their riders that there was going to be an impact in service?

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They haven't done anything like that yet, they haven't been asked to.

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What they were asking if we wanted them to do is to contact our riders and see about the ride sharing and that would open up that conversation.

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I don't I mean I guess it is we couldn't do it because we don't know who they are that's right that's right so

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I would say we need to make that request to me yes I make a motion that we request

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cart notify hamstered residents who use the service of the possibility of how we're

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Interrupted service.

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It's essential for interrupted service based on budgetary constraints after, as of January 1st.

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Second.

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All those in favour?

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All right.

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What have they currently charged the riders?

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$2 each way.

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Okay.

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Has there been any consideration of increasing that and taking some of the costs to the riders?

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$2 each way.

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It's the best deal around.

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Yes.

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It's an absolute fabulous day.

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Brans down to $78 per trip is what it costs.

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Right.

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And they're paying two bucks.

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Right.

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So, I mean, it's been discussed and it's been decided not to.

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Well, is there...

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I mean, doubling it, again, it would...

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Even doubling it causes a hardship for those people that can't afford it.

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the people that need the service, that's a hardship.

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In this need obviously there's no bending in need right?

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It's just that they call you, you go to them.

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Right, there's no need.

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There's no determination of having a way or

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do you have somebody else that can drive you.

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That's it.

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You call up.

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There's a space, and you can't call lasty.

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See, that's just thing too.

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You can't call the night before and expect there to be, right?

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They're not home to hold service hours for

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Hamstead open until the night before, they would much rather give another town that time.

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So that's an issue, too, you have to call up enough ahead of time.

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And that's where those denials come in.

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They don't have a car, they don't have, I don't have a car.

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But they do, they do track denials and the time for denials.

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Now, what they are working towards and they haven't done this yet,

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is to make all these numbers including the rides and the denials to make them in a format that we can drill down and we can really look at it more.

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It's a matter of getting it out of their system which they can't let us look at for privacy reasons.

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But to get the numbers that we can look at the parts that we can look at and drill down the way we need to look at it.

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And I'm sure that most of your writers are not just going on their mobile phones and scheduling things through a scheduling format.

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So they call in and they talk to each other.

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So even collating the information and documenting it is a laborious front.

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Yeah, we haven't discussed the fact that the card is completely ADA.

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And Uber is not ADA.

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Right.

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Right. Right. So, and I don't know how many of those eight repeat riders require the

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ADA, but that, too, is a consideration. The names of the customers, if you will, people

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at your service, are they available not to us? It's pepper. No, they could tell us that

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a rider from Hampstead ended up at this destination. And that's it. And we don't know who they

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We don't, but CART can notify them.

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So if we would ask anybody who was serviced by CART to notify us, would that-

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That would be their destruction?

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Because I think you're going to find out that the number of customers, if you will,

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from Hamstead are not excessive that you're talking about one or two people who

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are getting medical. I know there's other services you've provided but the

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medical is the most critical. The others they probably can get

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service by family members or whatever. She said that there was eight that was eight

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medical repeat customers? I just wonder if it's worthwhile looking at just what kind of

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services were provided and to who we are providing them to. Well, we know a majority

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is for medical reasons. Then you have employment reasons and then you have shopping reasons.

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I don't know if I'm missing one. I feel like that. I mean, personally, there actually

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They could be personal also, but medical out of those eight riders, I received seven

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addresses and six of them were to medical facilities.

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So I understand the hip of the medical aspect, but why are they not able to tell us the

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other ones?

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Well, they can tell you is the location, I tell you.

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So I can understand not being able to tell us the riders information because they're going from battle appointments.

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But why can't we know the riders information for other ones?

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It's public transport.

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Oh, I don't know.

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In other words, it's like shopping.

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Go shopping.

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You would say like, I don't know that answer.

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Right.

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I don't know that answer.

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I don't know that answer.

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I don't know that answer.

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I don't know that answer.

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So you know what the kind of totality of how many residents were shot in the year.

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So this is, this is how I think about it.

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I think that probably the majority of those eight repeat riders need the service because they maybe they need the transportation during the day when they can't have another form of transportation.

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but maybe on the weekends or in the afternoon, you know, in the evenings they have other family members around that could help provide those services.

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That's just a guess I have. I don't know that, but I think that's pretty plausible.

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That's what makes it work that they can stay in that home and get the medical need they need

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and be with their family members who may be, you know, both, or the other adult in the

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house, both, whatever, work.

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And they can't provide that transportation.

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Or they have a notification.

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But it certainly is-

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Right.

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Or they have mobility issues that require the ADA compliant view.

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You would think- but you would think that if the rider needed ADA, there had to be another

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other form of transportation that can accommodate the ADA

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in that household.

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Those people are using that transportation

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for medical reasons.

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They still need food, okay?

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So, I mean, yes, maybe they don't go out other than,

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I mean, that's possible, too.

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It was a major jump in numbers between 25 and 26, too.

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22 hasn't been complete yet.

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Yeah, 26 is only year two.

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I guess yeah, you're right.

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Well, it's, but it's the same period.

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But it's the same period.

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Yeah, we're talking July to June.

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So yeah.

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Right.

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So it's a six to five, seven people.

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Yeah.

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So the.

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But I'm assuming like that could probably be two people

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that probably accounted for that.

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Then I probably eat a move or no longer with us.

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Good assumption.

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And that's the thing.

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I think we have to work on a lot of...

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There's a couple of things that we also need to do. And that means we need to reach out to some of our senior and veteran population, if that means going to Jay Demando, who has a good network there, and giving some information to her, for her to share with her crowd. And maybe even going to the colonel and seeing if he can share some information with the veterans who may be using the service that may not be available.

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elderly, those may be another way of getting that kind of outreach, and it's to see if there's

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other things that we can connect them with. You know, other services that we can connect

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them with as well, in case we cannot get this funding approved. But I think you're right.

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I don't think we have a lot of choice here without cutting off what is clearly a vital service.

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I believe Medicare Advantage supplies rides as long as you call your insurance company ahead

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of time.

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I know my policy has rides if needed as long as we call ahead of time.

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And maybe some education, you know, looking into some other resources.

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I think community caregivers does some rides as well.

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But again, you have to kind of cobble that together for people.

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I think, you know, unless you're savvy about using your Medicare resources, I think that's a great insight.

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We could probably take a look into that.

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Yeah?

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Community caregivers, if they do, those are one of the organizations that did not get funded.

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And I had conversations with them probably in April and they do provide rideshare.

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The problem with it with that group it

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Private citizens volunteering in the time using their own vehicle in the non-ADD

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So wouldn't this be something where jade amount of is our senior coordinator, if you will

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Figure out what the other options would be

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That's why that was looking at some organization changes.

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These are all the services that we cook and again, that's what happens when you decide

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that those things are not necessary when someone's in need.

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We don't have so rock.

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We don't have meals on wheels.

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We don't have community care.

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But so let me just go back to that then because the senior coordinator's job is other

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than trips to do what?

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It's not social services.

431
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I'm not saying it's social services.

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No, it's a function of the recta part.

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Right, so it's to do the trips.

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And she does the coffees on one Thursday of the month,

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they do it.

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It's social services, it's like social evasion services,

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not social services.

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It was a presentation given to the Board many years ago

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that asked for a 20-hour week on employee

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to be here in the town, you should have all the social services that people have asked for.

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And that particular time, the select women said no, and they went ahead and just said,

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we used a company as a dairy, whatever that company is.

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We, they, where now is Latino, but they would call and give them the knowledge and they would go ahead and call that group.

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Yeah, it's basically a welfare office, a welfare service coordinator care management

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And that's the same thing when someone has a fire and you know Tina would contact the Red Cross

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But they would also contact for other services

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Through that welfare office that we just don't have the capacity to provide

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is a big rendition of what we're talking about today,

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and we need to have a some kind of a study that shows

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what it is that now people need,

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and can we help them?

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Is it really only eight people and is there an option

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to help get people to do that much more?

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We don't, I do not need in this town right now,

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00:34:30,850 --> 00:34:33,770
we don't have a bridge to stay in that,

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how many people are moving?

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Well, what we do now, and your point is well taken,

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what we do know is that over the past three years,

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if they have been 26 people who raised the service.

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Currently there are eight with P,

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00:34:47,130 --> 00:34:49,930
by 26 over Britain, or right, right.

462
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:51,310
And I'm not talking just part,

463
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:52,790
I think that there's other services

464
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:55,090
that you might not be talking just when I'm aware of.

465
00:34:55,210 --> 00:34:56,510
I just don't think that's enough.

466
00:34:56,670 --> 00:34:56,850
Right.

467
00:34:58,070 --> 00:35:00,310
But I don't really need to help through the study,

468
00:35:00,470 --> 00:35:02,290
like I'm sure, Jake, if I'll be doing this study,

469
00:35:02,430 --> 00:35:04,430
I'm gonna be getting some better information for you

470
00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:07,510
and I'll make you do for that before I get to see that.

471
00:35:07,810 --> 00:35:09,270
Yeah, I mean, I just think that, you know,

472
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:13,790
let's just let them warn off the point is that Jay is the person that while I understand

473
00:35:13,790 --> 00:35:19,530
it's not under her purview to be the welfare person or the senior, you know, the senior

474
00:35:19,530 --> 00:35:25,390
coordinate only does like two functions, I think that she does have the contacts to people

475
00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:29,790
who see, because I'm guessing that these people also are not going on the senior trips, but

476
00:35:30,270 --> 00:35:34,930
networking-wise they would probably all know what that means and they make sure but at the

477
00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:58,850
I don't know if we had any questions in the master plan survey on this but and the other

478
00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:03,970
place is the food pantry and heaven's kitchen because again they're working with the populations

479
00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:04,930
that are most at need.

480
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:09,870
So I think we have a couple different groups

481
00:36:09,870 --> 00:36:11,190
that we can reach out to.

482
00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:17,050
I'm willing to shepherd that effort.

483
00:36:17,330 --> 00:36:19,410
So I'll put together something

484
00:36:19,410 --> 00:36:22,890
and run it past the select board and talk with Jay

485
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:26,310
and with Kim and see what we can come up with in a way

486
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:28,150
of getting some information out.

487
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:29,770
Because I think you're right.

488
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:31,710
I think there are probably larger needs

489
00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:40,070
than we have identified, and it's part of what, when we put the budget together and we

490
00:36:40,070 --> 00:36:45,510
say these are the services that we feel we should contribute to, that's why.

491
00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:50,870
And I think maybe if more people understood what services are provided by those agencies,

492
00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:54,730
then they would understand why it's important for us to fund them.

493
00:36:57,790 --> 00:37:00,970
All right, does anybody else have any questions from Mr. Jones?

494
00:37:02,050 --> 00:37:07,070
So we've made that one motion to go forward to have a cart.

495
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:08,770
Will you send that to me, Mike?

496
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:09,470
I will.

497
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:09,990
Okay.

498
00:37:10,210 --> 00:37:10,390
Okay.

499
00:37:11,110 --> 00:37:15,610
And as far as the financial decision, I don't know that we're in a position to do anything

500
00:37:15,610 --> 00:37:16,450
right now.

501
00:37:16,450 --> 00:37:24,550
So budget budget and we'll go over the budget schedule later on

502
00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:28,290
If I get any more information further

503
00:37:29,770 --> 00:37:36,750
You know clarification I will forward it wonderful. Thank you. Thanks for the information. You can get us to help us in form this situation

504
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:39,370
Okay, so thank you guys. Thank you. It

505
00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:46,460
looks like next up. We have police chief Kelly under department heads

506
00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:58,070
Good evening again. Good evening

507
00:37:58,070 --> 00:38:02,510
Okay, thank you for your meeting with me, a couple items I wanted to go through.

508
00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:11,590
The first item I wanted to bring up to the board, our current custodian can no longer

509
00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:15,170
continue to work for us.

510
00:38:15,330 --> 00:38:21,530
It's a part-time position, up to nine hours a week doing custodial responsibilities around

511
00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:22,270
the police station.

512
00:38:22,270 --> 00:38:28,750
I would ask the board to go ahead and allow me to hire a replacement.

513
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:36,450
His name is Sean Randlett in pending successful background check.

514
00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:38,410
Let me take that motion.

515
00:38:38,970 --> 00:38:39,390
I have a second.

516
00:38:40,590 --> 00:38:41,190
All those in favour?

517
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:41,830
All right.

518
00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:42,050
All right.

519
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:43,710
Thank you very much.

520
00:38:44,350 --> 00:38:49,090
The second issue I wanted to bring up to the board is I'd like to do a minor department

521
00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:57,030
and read a structure at this point, I would like to reclassify Sergeant Randall to more

522
00:38:57,030 --> 00:39:01,910
of an administrative sergeant with the title of detective sergeant and I would like to

523
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:09,930
promote Chris Rothwell to the rank of sergeant and utilize him as a patrol supervisor.

524
00:39:10,690 --> 00:39:17,550
I'd like to do that for both of them with an effective date of Sunday, August 30th.

525
00:39:17,550 --> 00:39:19,090
I make that motion.

526
00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:20,590
We have a second.

527
00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:21,650
Second.

528
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:22,750
All those in favor.

529
00:39:23,170 --> 00:39:23,610
All right.

530
00:39:24,430 --> 00:39:25,470
Thank you very much.

531
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:27,050
I appreciate that.

532
00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:31,790
Moving on, I will honor to discuss with the board going

533
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,340
in line with the administrative function.

534
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,940
I'd like to give credit what credit is due.

535
00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:46,280
In my hand, I have a grant that was completed by Sergeant Randall.

536
00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:51,180
It is a grant for $8500 from the Office of Highway Safety

537
00:39:51,180 --> 00:40:00,660
to conduct speed enforcement, cell phone use, and DWI enforcement.

538
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:19,680
Per we do these annually, per the procedure outlined, I need the board to take a vote to accept the grant for $8,500 and then I will just need a member of the board to sign it and the board minutes to reflect that you voted to accept the $8,500.

539
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:25,940
Some moved with the addition that we allow the chairman to sign for it.

540
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,760
Second, Paul was able to have a foul second, only because if you're going to sign it, that's complicated.

541
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,780
Quick question, what does that, those funds actually go to chief?

542
00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:45,520
They, four hour blocks of traffic enforcement, whether it be, they have a couple different national campaigns that they do.

543
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:49,280
But ultimately, it'll put officers out on the road.

544
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:56,200
to do driving while impaired, speeding, cell phone use, distracted driving, stuff like that.

545
00:40:56,380 --> 00:41:01,700
But what is the grant, the money go to into your budget, not into the general fund,

546
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,580
goes into a special account?

547
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:07,760
So it will come back to the general fund.

548
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,840
I will, out of my budget, we will pay the offices to do the patrol, then we submit for

549
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,080
reimbursement and eventually the money comes back to the town.

550
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,760
So the grant actually goes into the general fund.

551
00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:22,760
Yes, when we get reimbursed, correct?

552
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,660
Thank you.

553
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:25,580
All those of them.

554
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,340
All right.

555
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:27,920
Thank you.

556
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,460
I'll leave this.

557
00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:28,940
Thank you, Chief.

558
00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:34,410
It's outlined in there.

559
00:41:34,890 --> 00:41:35,510
If you go through it.

560
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:39,570
Why would one person from the chair?

561
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:42,490
I don't need it tonight.

562
00:41:42,490 --> 00:41:44,590
I can get it at an up later date.

563
00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:52,330
And I just two additional items I wanted to update the board on is pain-sakingly I still

564
00:41:52,330 --> 00:41:59,370
do not have a counter-proposal from the Attorney General's Office on a potential mutual aid

565
00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:03,950
agreement between the town or the police department and state police.

566
00:42:04,510 --> 00:42:10,790
This is going back a couple meetings, multiple meetings, but more specifically a meeting a couple

567
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:16,130
weeks ago and I am still eagerly waiting their counter proposal to my initial proposal.

568
00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:19,890
I have no explanation as to what's taking so long.

569
00:42:20,050 --> 00:42:25,170
I think we've made the town as a whole, made our expectations on what we will and will

570
00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:29,210
not do up there, and for some reason this continues to be a process.

571
00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:33,270
This is with respect to Hampstead Hospital and the YDC.

572
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:33,850
Correct.

573
00:42:34,890 --> 00:42:49,550
And then, on the tail end of that, I have a meeting on Wednesday with the Attorney General's Office Department of Safety, Colonel Hall from State Police, multiple members from Department of Health and Human Services.

574
00:42:50,290 --> 00:42:52,970
They kind of sprung on me last minute.

575
00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:57,270
They are looking to do a meeting to discuss overall campus safety.

576
00:42:59,050 --> 00:43:00,950
I'll keep the board up to date on that.

577
00:43:01,130 --> 00:43:04,770
I don't know how we can discuss all of that with all the same people that I've been meeting

578
00:43:04,770 --> 00:43:10,750
and trying to get this mutual aid agreement wrapped up, but now they're calling for a separate

579
00:43:10,750 --> 00:43:15,930
meeting, so I just want the board to be aware of it and I will keep you up to date on the outcome

580
00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:16,690
of that as well.

581
00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:25,010
This is the fourth meeting with the same group of people and the same message.

582
00:43:25,010 --> 00:43:31,410
Yes, and then apparently we need to do it in sign language hyroglyphics and

583
00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:36,510
The only way to help from some of our state reps and so on

584
00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:43,810
Senator Burzel sat in on the last meeting in fact she sat in in two of the three meetings that we've had so far

585
00:43:43,810 --> 00:43:50,090
It's not moving the needle but she wasn't invited to sit in on this thing. Oh, and either was I

586
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:53,530
Yes, that's it

587
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:56,970
That's all I have for you. Thank you very much for your time. Have a great evening. I'll sign for you.

588
00:43:58,370 --> 00:43:59,230
Thank you, sir.

589
00:43:59,790 --> 00:44:00,090
Thank you.

590
00:44:00,290 --> 00:44:01,430
Appreciate it.

591
00:44:02,250 --> 00:44:03,770
Looks like Kate's getting ready to jump.

592
00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:05,750
Wow.

593
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:08,050
All right.

594
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:09,330
Oh, back on you.

595
00:44:09,570 --> 00:44:09,930
See you now.

596
00:44:10,170 --> 00:44:10,970
Oh, wow.

597
00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:12,870
I'm going to watch you stumble a little bit.

598
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:13,790
Thank you, Leah.

599
00:44:14,050 --> 00:44:15,730
Thank you.

600
00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:16,950
Thank you, Leah.

601
00:44:17,290 --> 00:44:18,830
I saw the reports now.

602
00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:21,530
So the cake can...

603
00:44:21,530 --> 00:44:25,930
Well, we've got Mr. Dowd over here sitting waiting too, so it won't take long.

604
00:44:26,770 --> 00:44:29,170
Kim, did you have anything under department heads or are you good?

605
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:29,650
Yeah.

606
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:30,330
All right.

607
00:44:30,970 --> 00:44:33,010
So that brings us to a new business.

608
00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:35,690
First thing on new business is open heat and fuel bits.

609
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:37,150
All right.

610
00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:40,690
Good news only.

611
00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:41,250
Good news only.

612
00:44:42,110 --> 00:44:42,730
I don't know.

613
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:45,930
Have you looked at the, well, mutant fuel prices right now?

614
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:50,010
As long as we're still under department heads, I didn't know if Matt would be here.

615
00:44:50,010 --> 00:44:59,770
But I'm going to ask him to find the signs, the trifold signs that we had that say vote.

616
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,720
Okay.

617
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,800
Okay. Okay. Okay.

618
00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:18,460
Okay.

619
00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:22,460
Okay.

620
00:45:22,460 --> 00:45:24,800
All right, I'll leave you on the map, so I'll have a message.

621
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,240
Yeah, they're in the shed, but we've got to get them out and clean it up.

622
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,960
The sandwich boards?

623
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,280
Yeah, the big ones, we paid big money for them.

624
00:45:31,780 --> 00:45:36,360
And there's handwritten signs that should still be there, that say, vote Tuesday, that was

625
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,640
the generic, vote Tuesday 8 to 8 at HMS, so.

626
00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:41,640
All right, I'll have them get those out.

627
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:47,300
I was going to have new ones printed up, but it costs us like $600 to get those inserts.

628
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,780
So we don't have it in the budget.

629
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,300
All right, exactly, so we're going to have the handwritten ones.

630
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:59,840
All right, so the first one I'm opening here is palm of gas and oil RFP for heating oil, okay

631
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,480
You ready Mr. Dowd?

632
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:08,980
All right, so their propane price is going to be a fixed price of $1.89

633
00:46:08,980 --> 00:46:10,940
nine cents per gallon

634
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,820
Outside bid terms will be at a variable rate of 50 cents per gallon

635
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,320
Above their Ackinson Landed cost

636
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:31,360
First, number two heating oil price is 3.599 per gallon and variable rate of 20 cents per

637
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,000
gallon below the regular market price.

638
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:40,180
Off-road died diesel, we got that in there too, it's 30 cents off regular daily market

639
00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:40,720
price.

640
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:47,620
So today I started at $5.24, so yeah, enjoy.

641
00:46:47,620 --> 00:46:54,500
All right, so there's that one, then they got some accolades on there, how they were the

642
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:57,360
business, the ancient magazines, business of the decade.

643
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,680
This next one is for a Hilton oil company.

644
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,620
Who's it from?

645
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,480
Hilton?

646
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,380
Like the hotel?

647
00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:13,240
But not.

648
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:13,940
But not.

649
00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:16,340
Okay.

650
00:47:16,340 --> 00:47:17,000
So,

651
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:31,220
this is heating oil first, so town of Hampstead and the school, obviously, $4.549 per

652
00:47:31,220 --> 00:47:40,620
gallon for number two oil. That is for approximate $7,844 gallons. That is the town of Hampstead.

653
00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:49,700
Hinch said school district, same price, $4.549, approximately 50,000 gallons of number

654
00:47:49,700 --> 00:48:01,820
two oil, dyed diesel, $4.749 for that, no, nothing for LP, they must not deal in liquid

655
00:48:01,820 --> 00:48:02,300
propane.

656
00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:05,720
Do you have that?

657
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,440
Excellent.

658
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,360
So, we will take these and defer them to Mr. Dowd.

659
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,480
Make sure I get them to the right down below with return addresses.

660
00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:56,540
I'm more than happy to take a look at those right now, and I'll take a look on the before final approval, but right now it looks like Palmer would be more favorable, still $50,000 more than the school and 16, 17,000 more for the town.

661
00:48:56,540 --> 00:49:04,860
Now both propane and so that's an aggregate over current your price now currently propane

662
00:49:04,860 --> 00:49:16,860
is at $179.99 so this came in at $189.99. Our current rate for oil is $256.9. So pommers

663
00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:25,180
rate of $359.99 is quite a bit higher. Not good news but not as bad as I was thinking

664
00:49:25,180 --> 00:49:29,520
it might have been. So does that mean we won last year and lost this year? Or do you just

665
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,660
do on demand calling this year? Yeah. I don't know what the fluctuation of price is right now.

666
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:43,180
And actually that's the problem. So 24-25 our oil price was 287-9 and propane was 169-9. So that's been

667
00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:50,360
going up a dime a year. But from 24 to 25 we went down and now we're going, so we went from 289.

668
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,500
Sorry, $287.9 to $256.9. Now we're going at $359.9.

669
00:49:56,380 --> 00:49:59,060
It's probably not related to a conference one or anything.

670
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,520
Yeah. I expected that.

671
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,460
I expected that.

672
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,780
But in this is probably a stupid question, but it doesn't make sense to

673
00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:13,720
that we should lock in with a company or, I mean again, like,

674
00:50:14,060 --> 00:50:19,260
are there times where we go, okay, we need to, we need to fill.

675
00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:24,500
So we know it's whatever you tend to sense approximately or whatever lower than what we're

676
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:25,340
getting quotes for.

677
00:50:25,780 --> 00:50:28,960
If you watch the news, the conflict's going to get resolved every other day.

678
00:50:29,380 --> 00:50:31,000
So that's the thing, right?

679
00:50:31,740 --> 00:50:41,860
So the price that I pay out of contract for liquid propane currently is $241, not.

680
00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:45,440
And so their bid price is $189.99.

681
00:50:45,580 --> 00:50:47,300
I think it's just they can look in the futures now.

682
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:47,820
Sure.

683
00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:49,820
Yeah, we're kind of have to right yeah

684
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:57,040
Yeah, so 241-9 is what word is what I've paid off. We had to do a small fill-up. How to off-contract

685
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,380
189 is good. Yeah, I didn't think I'd say it's good. It seems pretty good

686
00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:07,800
Yeah, you know, so so we need a motion to take Mr. Doubts recommendation. Well, yes

687
00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:15,980
Yeah, you know what the bid to Palmer. Okay, make a motion to award the fuel bid to Palmer gas

688
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:26,440
Second all those in favor hi, thank you very much. I mean, thank you just an FYI one of the cash oil companies is charge in

689
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:36,140
$459.9, but eat oil for cash, okay. Wow. So you're all getting ready to deal with that.

690
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,640
She's since when is that a deal? We'll take it I guess.

691
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,800
All right. Thank you for coming on, Mr. Douda. Appreciate it.

692
00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:53,480
Thank you very much.

693
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:01,940
So I didn't see the correspondence on the next item on there, but I do remember it did

694
00:52:01,940 --> 00:52:02,940
get sent to me.

695
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:04,120
I voted it.

696
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,460
I didn't have any correspondence with that.

697
00:52:06,860 --> 00:52:09,780
I just took your lead on it and put it on the agenda.

698
00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:17,300
So the Vigiri Center is drop-in center is they have an open board director C and they reached out to us

699
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:24,820
To see if anybody may be interested so we figured we put it out there could probably could have been in public announcements as well, but

700
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,800
So if anybody is interested

701
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:35,380
I don't know who that is I can find that out though

702
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,220
Let me open up the e-mail real quick.

703
00:52:45,860 --> 00:52:50,500
They'd actually be a good group for me to talk to as well about senior needs because

704
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:52,180
a lot of our seniors go to the program.

705
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:58,700
I assume if there's an open seat, the person who currently is sitting is not a candidate.

706
00:52:59,620 --> 00:53:05,080
I have no information regarding this Board of Director, I didn't realize.

707
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:09,220
So it's a three-year term.

708
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,720
The meeting schedule is the third Tuesday of each month.

709
00:53:13,380 --> 00:53:18,200
The board member responsibilities would be general board members provide governance

710
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:23,140
oversight and community representation for the respective town, also active contributors

711
00:53:23,140 --> 00:53:28,600
to the center such as helping with activities and specials and supporting our staff and volunteers.

712
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:34,280
They're also need a treasurer, so that could be one of the board positions as well.

713
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:40,960
To apply, interested candidates are encouraged to submit their interests and inquiries to

714
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:49,460
Vick Geary at gmail.com and that's bi-c-g-e-a-r-y at gmail.com.

715
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,520
Can you forward that to me?

716
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,360
I can, yeah.

717
00:53:52,620 --> 00:53:52,900
Thank you.

718
00:53:55,470 --> 00:54:00,750
So it sounds like something possibly for someone that may be retired, if

719
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,380
that thing is just

720
00:54:07,380 --> 00:54:08,000
the wrong thing.

721
00:54:08,420 --> 00:54:08,740
That's all right.

722
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,240
They do some great parties over there.

723
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:18,270
So I don't know if they shake their trees themselves, it looks like an application goes

724
00:54:18,270 --> 00:54:23,270
to victory, not to this wood, just a matter of information for us.

725
00:54:24,590 --> 00:54:30,470
I assumed it was somebody from this board and I believe they do some services as well

726
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:38,670
as far as like the community, but I think it's all in class-out.

727
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:53,900
And they do a weekly, they do meals, they do all kinds of activities.

728
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:55,420
All kinds of activities, yep.

729
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,180
Face and poison has been there a couple times.

730
00:55:07,810 --> 00:55:12,430
So as the information on that, we promised that we would announce it.

731
00:55:13,150 --> 00:55:21,190
The 2026, 2027 budget schedule has been provided by the kind of administrator in my carrier.

732
00:55:21,790 --> 00:55:23,650
It should be sitting right in front of you there.

733
00:55:23,970 --> 00:55:25,170
All those lovely dates.

734
00:55:25,290 --> 00:55:27,330
It seems like we just ended budget season.

735
00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:28,290
But here we go again.

736
00:55:28,290 --> 00:55:36,890
one. First one is scheduled October 7th. These ones go all the way till March 1st.

737
00:55:37,390 --> 00:55:43,210
Yeah, that Wednesday October 7th meeting is an off week for the board meetings.

738
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:50,570
That's is that Columbus Day? No, the week after is Columbus Day on that Monday. So I'm proposing

739
00:55:50,570 --> 00:55:57,830
to move your regularly scheduled meeting from Monday to the 14th at Wednesday.

740
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:09,770
I just have a question. We got the information from our TA to our TA. I know it took a lot

741
00:56:09,770 --> 00:56:19,490
of work on our insurance. I know we all received a couple of meetings ago, the breakdown of

742
00:56:19,490 --> 00:56:29,410
the possible changes in the cost to both the town employees and the town.

743
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:40,590
And I just wanted to say that in looking at the proposal, because it is in debt and

744
00:56:40,590 --> 00:56:48,370
it is a significant cost to the town, that I, in my estimation at least, the number

745
00:56:48,370 --> 00:56:59,550
I'm going to show that the town's employees are going to have a problem with the new schedule as submitted.

746
00:57:00,430 --> 00:57:09,590
And that we might be asking the administration to come up with a plan that does not impact on the town employees.

747
00:57:09,590 --> 00:57:13,030
Are we talking about the budget schedule?

748
00:57:14,010 --> 00:57:18,050
No, we're talking about items that come up in the budget and September.

749
00:57:18,190 --> 00:57:19,410
Is this so you're bringing something?

750
00:57:19,970 --> 00:57:20,210
By me?

751
00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:23,410
So you want to talk about budget items right now.

752
00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:24,430
Is that what you're saying?

753
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:28,310
Yeah, I'm saying that the budget is coming up in September.

754
00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:36,230
This is one item and it seems it's a significant item on the budget.

755
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:47,190
and I wondered if we wanted to either talk about it at when is the first item on the budget?

756
00:57:47,490 --> 00:57:49,530
October 7th.

757
00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:52,270
Yeah, I, if I may, Mr. Chairman.

758
00:57:52,890 --> 00:58:00,530
As far as the changes to health insurance, I plan on bringing those options to the board in September.

759
00:58:00,530 --> 00:58:06,730
And then those adjustments, whatever the board decides, will be made in the first draft of the budget.

760
00:58:07,830 --> 00:58:24,170
And my comment is, although it might be premature, is that it is a proposal that saves the town money at the expense of the town employees, and I would not consider it at all.

761
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:36,750
If the TA wants to, we, this was a direction from the board to evaluate the health insurance.

762
00:58:38,050 --> 00:58:43,090
He didn't do this on his own, I mean, we've, the board said multiple conversations

763
00:58:43,090 --> 00:58:51,830
where we can, first where we can find more money, right, and kind of evaluating, we told him

764
00:58:51,830 --> 00:58:52,550
to evaluate.

765
00:58:52,830 --> 00:58:53,110
Oh yeah.

766
00:58:53,110 --> 00:59:01,090
No, I'm just making sure that that's still clear and the proposal it's not as far as I know again

767
00:59:01,090 --> 00:59:03,750
We're going to bring it up, but it's more of a

768
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:13,050
Feased-in approach is an option, right? It's not kind of all or nothing. There's there's the employees would have

769
00:59:13,950 --> 00:59:20,630
Some options of what plan to choose and also it's like they have now sure, but also

770
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:26,690
So the cost sharing will depend on the plan you pick and also whatever it is would be phased

771
00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:26,890
in.

772
00:59:28,270 --> 00:59:32,810
Like we don't have to do, you can do it a half a percent a year if we want to do it.

773
00:59:33,110 --> 00:59:40,470
But I think we did a really good job over the past, or we've done over the past few years,

774
00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:48,450
a really good job on the wages end of things to kind of keep up with colas and, you know,

775
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:53,530
trying to keep some movement going, to keep wages up, to try to be competitive.

776
00:59:54,170 --> 00:59:59,970
But I think on the health insurance portion, it is something.

777
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:09,940
I think we've never fully evaluated, and that's what we're going to get is a full evaluation of it. So, I understand to be against any changes. But,

778
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:28,700
again, we're also looking at a possible third year of being in the fall budget. And the only other thing that I would say, in my opinion, would be you start cutting positions. I don't want to be the person to start making those decisions, right? So, if it's...

779
01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:37,020
No, my point is bringing it up now instead of waiting is just to make the comment that it is a

780
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:44,880
the report is very comprehensive I thought but it looked like that it was

781
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:55,000
saving the towns about $50,000 at the expense of the town employees and it's also my understanding

782
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:05,360
Even at the department head meeting that was made clear that the employees were not receptive

783
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:15,660
to sacrificing a significant amount of money so that the town could save the $50,000

784
01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:17,300
that we were looking to save.

785
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,140
Well, I wouldn't think that they would want to do that.

786
01:01:20,140 --> 01:01:26,640
I mean, I wouldn't want to do that either, but that's why we're evaluating it as a board and

787
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:36,120
I would say that that statement is not accurate and I think if we continue this conversation in the direction it's going in

788
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:43,220
We should probably do it in non-public. Yeah, and the other part of that is if you just want to use that as a base

789
01:01:43,780 --> 01:01:47,300
Whatever, but I'm just trying to save some some time. That's very

790
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:55,360
detailed and a real impact on the budget, that line, at least, which is a significant

791
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:55,820
line.

792
01:01:56,220 --> 01:01:58,500
We have another month to look it over, so let's-

793
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:00,380
Well, I thought we had it for the last couple of weeks.

794
01:02:01,180 --> 01:02:04,860
But we need plenty of time to really look it over and then discuss it in public.

795
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:11,340
And the other part of that is that the municipal employees is a very small pool, so changes

796
01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:17,780
in their health insurance is going to have a relatively small impact on the budget versus

797
01:02:17,780 --> 01:02:23,760
the school employees, where I think they are also looking at potential changes to their

798
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:30,240
health insurance policies. And again, because of the sheer volume of employees, that's going

799
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,080
to have a very different impact on the budget. So I think it's a matter of perspective.

800
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:40,260
I'm not in favor of cutting anything from the town employees to health insurance either

801
01:02:40,260 --> 01:02:45,500
or modifying but I think we have to look at it. I think we have a responsibility in year

802
01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:51,340
two of default budget. I think we have a responsibility to look at all of our expenses.

803
01:02:52,020 --> 01:03:00,000
I agree. It's just that they have no power of negotiations. They could.

804
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:05,620
Well, I think it's up to us to have open conversations and transparency in our conversations.

805
01:03:05,620 --> 01:03:08,540
So all right, let's move on to old business, please.

806
01:03:10,340 --> 01:03:12,760
All right, do you have anything for old business?

807
01:03:14,340 --> 01:03:16,740
Can we back out? Are we okay with the schedule?

808
01:03:17,180 --> 01:03:19,480
I think we're perfectly fine with the schedule

809
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,080
and I'd like your recommendation of moving that Monday to the Wednesday

810
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,980
if everybody else is in favor with that one.

811
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:25,300
Sure.

812
01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:27,320
I don't think we need a formal vote on that.

813
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,960
No, you know, I'll make that notation.

814
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,680
Did you get that one, Joe?

815
01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:33,420
Yeah, yeah, it'll, we'll get a,

816
01:03:33,420 --> 01:03:36,720
So instead of meeting twice, we're going to meet once in that week on the Wednesday and

817
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,320
Saturday Monday.

818
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:37,640
Yeah.

819
01:03:38,660 --> 01:03:39,300
All right.

820
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,440
We'll get the email to that effect anyway, right?

821
01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:44,140
And be on the agenda.

822
01:03:44,380 --> 01:03:53,100
It's actually in your, it's in the agenda, on the back, it says, upcoming Slack board meetings

823
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:53,620
and events.

824
01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:54,060
Sorry.

825
01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:56,380
I have to turn the page.

826
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:58,240
Yeah.

827
01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:01,540
We can't print two pages of it, but you have to do front and back for a bunch of reasons.

828
01:04:01,540 --> 01:04:03,620
All right.

829
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:22,540
So TA report and for information. Okay, so we are there. I just want to give the board some general information that the steeple in this building as well as in the meeting house.

830
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,360
The work will be starting mid-September.

831
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:25,420
Yeah.

832
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,640
The coupon.

833
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,360
We have a coupon.

834
01:04:31,580 --> 01:04:31,600
Yeah, the coupon.

835
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:31,940
Yeah.

836
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,100
People and the meeting house.

837
01:04:34,140 --> 01:04:35,420
People who are on top of the coupon.

838
01:04:35,540 --> 01:04:36,060
Okay, sorry.

839
01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:38,760
Is there ever any...

840
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,040
I don't know if this would be a historic commission.

841
01:04:41,380 --> 01:04:43,540
I'm guessing it would be under their purview, but also,

842
01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:46,600
it's a general information question, which is,

843
01:04:47,860 --> 01:04:50,860
there's a grant money for those types of buildings, right?

844
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,380
For example, in Acids, and they've been working on their little,

845
01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:59,520
So whatever the heck it is across Mac, it's an academy under a grant to restore that.

846
01:05:00,020 --> 01:05:06,900
Would this building and or the meeting house, I'm not sure about this meeting, but I can

847
01:05:06,900 --> 01:05:15,280
check with Rob Morris, I know they have submitted for a grant for the window replacements in

848
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:15,800
that building.

849
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,500
Just downstairs.

850
01:05:17,060 --> 01:05:21,840
Just downstairs, right at this time because they were matching funds grant.

851
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,800
So, but who, I guess the question more of my general information is who goes for those

852
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,060
grants.

853
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:35,880
So, shouldn't that be something that the town, maybe with a dedicated town employee that

854
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:45,000
knows how to write grants, goes for, Rob, Rob pretty much works with Tina by hands in the

855
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:45,240
past.

856
01:05:46,020 --> 01:05:51,400
Well, right, but if we have somebody that has got the town millions of dollars in grants, I

857
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,640
I would also like them looped in on grant writing as well.

858
01:05:55,820 --> 01:05:58,300
You see it have Mike raping, look for grants.

859
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,760
I would look into it.

860
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:01,260
Oh, thank you.

861
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:02,520
I'll read between both of them.

862
01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:06,060
But I thought that was one of his high points.

863
01:06:06,580 --> 01:06:10,320
I think the Congregational Church got a grant

864
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,360
as well for their steeple repairs.

865
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,380
Yeah, I'm not familiar with those types of grants,

866
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,140
but I will look in and when I'll talk to Rob.

867
01:06:18,460 --> 01:06:18,800
Thank you.

868
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:19,380
and see if any.

869
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,640
Rob is pretty much up on what's going on.

870
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,340
That's why he's what he is.

871
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,740
And there's only people like that on around forever either, right?

872
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,160
So I just want to make sure that we have succession planning for the building

873
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,300
that's going to remain here for centuries.

874
01:06:37,220 --> 01:06:39,820
I'll put that on the TAs list of items.

875
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:40,660
Thank you for your time.

876
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:41,000
You're welcome.

877
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:47,600
So the other information I have is that we are now beginning to evaluate financial

878
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:56,840
social software to kind of replace the outdated systems that we have in place, they don't even support our financial software anymore.

879
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:08,420
So, the first vendor that we're evaluating is on September 3rd at 9 a.m. and any board member is welcome to attend.

880
01:07:08,620 --> 01:07:10,780
What is that? September 3rd?

881
01:07:12,060 --> 01:07:16,160
Does that, will that include payroll?

882
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:16,540
Correct.

883
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:16,960
Okay.

884
01:07:17,540 --> 01:07:22,920
It should include everything financially that we need to support the town.

885
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:29,460
And that is also like so every department will go into this.

886
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:32,880
They should pay all for the library, payroll for, okay.

887
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,340
That's the plan, and invoicing and all of that, yeah?

888
01:07:36,740 --> 01:07:36,840
Right.

889
01:07:37,420 --> 01:07:45,560
That's the plan is to put together an electronic system where all departments can get real-time

890
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:46,160
information.

891
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,320
Of course your real-time information is only as good as the information that is actually

892
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:50,780
available.

893
01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:56,540
So that's the plan and then Payroll will look in for department heads to put that information.

894
01:07:57,180 --> 01:08:04,040
Again, Gloria is kind of the front person to this and she's starting the evaluation process

895
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,020
and we're all part of it.

896
01:08:05,020 --> 01:08:07,960
Is this one of the vendors that earned the interview process?

897
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:10,320
She made your own effort.

898
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,860
They're called MTB.

899
01:08:14,740 --> 01:08:15,880
This is what they do.

900
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,060
Financial software from municipalities.

901
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,060
And then I'm pretty sure she'll have MTS in,

902
01:08:21,140 --> 01:08:23,640
which is a subsidiary of MRI.

903
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,540
This is something that she had actually

904
01:08:26,540 --> 01:08:29,080
done some research on, this process.

905
01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:30,680
Yes, so that was one of the.

906
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,460
And she made phone calls and said,

907
01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:37,640
Can you come in and show us what your software can do great so you're all

908
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,360
more than welcome to attend all the common heads were invited as well as the

909
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:48,380
library so everybody's going to have some input into the process great so

910
01:08:48,380 --> 01:08:53,500
September 3rd it's going to be a meeting nine o'clock here well it may end up

911
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:58,440
being at the fire station upstairs because that room is bigger and there's a there's

912
01:08:58,440 --> 01:09:02,140
better technology relative to putting stuff up on a business.

913
01:09:02,140 --> 01:09:03,700
There's a change, you'll send emails.

914
01:09:03,700 --> 01:09:06,180
I'll let everybody know once I have that information.

915
01:09:06,380 --> 01:09:08,500
I guess it depends on how many people are going to show up.

916
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,100
Kate will be there.

917
01:09:14,250 --> 01:09:17,170
I think that's all I have at this point.

918
01:09:18,010 --> 01:09:19,770
All right, that brings us to liaison's report.

919
01:09:21,690 --> 01:09:22,730
I don't have any.

920
01:09:23,050 --> 01:09:24,890
Oh, CK. Look at that.

921
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:28,130
The five bucks didn't get it this time, huh?

922
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:33,030
My ex-girlfriend, you usually don't have anything, I do you?

923
01:09:33,410 --> 01:09:34,090
No, I don't have anything.

924
01:09:34,170 --> 01:09:35,550
Yeah, it wasn't that last week.

925
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:42,030
One of the things was the changes that just didn't take place in the payroll on that,

926
01:09:42,150 --> 01:09:46,410
and that you're overlapping in through our show where we're all set for that.

927
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:47,410
How's the tank?

928
01:09:48,190 --> 01:09:51,410
The tank is empty, and it's going to take it out.

929
01:09:51,870 --> 01:09:53,190
We believe in the better.

930
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:54,470
Okay.

931
01:09:54,970 --> 01:09:55,750
It's good to know.

932
01:09:55,750 --> 01:10:00,050
He did, like a welder or like a welder, just a company that can...

933
01:10:00,050 --> 01:10:00,490
Sauza.

934
01:10:01,090 --> 01:10:01,670
All right.

935
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:02,750
And he's enough.

936
01:10:03,150 --> 01:10:03,570
It's plastic.

937
01:10:04,050 --> 01:10:04,590
Oh, it is plastic.

938
01:10:04,590 --> 01:10:05,310
I thought it was metal.

939
01:10:05,630 --> 01:10:06,230
No, it isn't.

940
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:07,770
It's cord and control seal.

941
01:10:08,450 --> 01:10:12,610
Is that Sauza all blades in as like the deputy chief's going to go do it?

942
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:12,970
No.

943
01:10:13,450 --> 01:10:14,850
No, I don't see it here.

944
01:10:15,170 --> 01:10:18,010
I might be a lot of noise though, right?

945
01:10:18,330 --> 01:10:18,470
Yes.

946
01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:21,670
You go by the library and it's closed.

947
01:10:22,150 --> 01:10:22,910
It's going to be closed.

948
01:10:22,910 --> 01:10:29,630
We are potentially closing the library for the week that it's happening because of fumes and noise and

949
01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:35,630
We'll be doing different things. You'll be here at your bus. Okay. Yeah, so I was also gonna make a hell of a wrap-in

950
01:10:41,370 --> 01:10:42,250
Thank you

951
01:10:43,070 --> 01:10:49,670
So thank you. I'm lucky my chief already did the updates. I'm kind of like Joe. I had somebody else

952
01:10:49,670 --> 01:10:53,390
So someone has my printed version of my liaisons report.

953
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:56,470
I think I passed it over with other things.

954
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:57,970
There it is.

955
01:10:58,010 --> 01:10:58,510
There it is.

956
01:10:58,690 --> 01:10:59,730
I got it.

957
01:10:59,870 --> 01:11:00,450
Thank you.

958
01:11:00,450 --> 01:11:01,570
Is it nine pages?

959
01:11:01,850 --> 01:11:03,050
I was going to do it on my copy.

960
01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:04,270
I'm sure I'd speed it on.

961
01:11:04,710 --> 01:11:04,910
Right.

962
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:05,930
No, no.

963
01:11:06,250 --> 01:11:07,710
It's literally like two things.

964
01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:13,470
So the CIP, while I was hoping that Kim would have reported on this, and then I would have

965
01:11:13,470 --> 01:11:17,270
almost been off the hook like, select my gothry over there.

966
01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:21,690
So the CIP committee met on the 20th at the fire station.

967
01:11:21,970 --> 01:11:25,670
Historic committee presented plans for improvements at the meeting house.

968
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:33,010
Second story, windows, a new chimney ductwork and new furnaces were discussed for a part of capital improvement projects.

969
01:11:33,570 --> 01:11:40,390
Only a quote for the furnace itself was available, which was just for the standalone furnace, not the ductwork, not the chimney.

970
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:50,970
The $26,800 on the historic committee is working on a 20-year plan for the buildings it manages and is seeking a historic building expert to help with the plan.

971
01:11:52,210 --> 01:12:04,250
Updated CIP committee bylaws were distributed to the committee members, voting took place on 2026, 2027 capital projects and we brought to the Board of Selectment in September.

972
01:12:06,610 --> 01:12:14,150
Also mentioned which we just kind of talked about, it's not part of the capital project

973
01:12:14,150 --> 01:12:17,470
but it was grant funded so he brought it to the attention of the committee.

974
01:12:18,190 --> 01:12:20,870
They got a grant, I believe it was for $30,000.

975
01:12:21,310 --> 01:12:26,750
It was grant funding matched so they had to come up with $15,000.

976
01:12:26,750 --> 01:12:31,790
The grant was for $15,000 to do the downstairs windows.

977
01:12:31,790 --> 01:12:38,410
But obviously that building needs an awful lot of work to keep in another 300 years or whatever.

978
01:12:39,330 --> 01:12:45,810
Town elections, state primary election will be held on Tuesday, September 8th, from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.

979
01:12:46,450 --> 01:12:49,730
Two board of selectman members need to be present at all times.

980
01:12:49,730 --> 01:12:52,410
There's only one person that is actually being primary.

981
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:57,190
It is also on the board of selectman and that is Selectming Guthrie.

982
01:12:57,610 --> 01:12:59,230
Well, we appear on the board.

983
01:12:59,230 --> 01:13:00,130
You're both on the ballot.

984
01:13:00,430 --> 01:13:01,130
We just don't have it all.

985
01:13:01,210 --> 01:13:01,650
You don't have it all.

986
01:13:01,650 --> 01:13:02,330
We don't have it all.

987
01:13:02,650 --> 01:13:04,030
Yeah, I mean it.

988
01:13:04,230 --> 01:13:06,350
Which was like that with me at the last election.

989
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:10,190
And that's why I could be there as an election official

990
01:13:10,190 --> 01:13:11,970
because it was an uncontested case.

991
01:13:11,970 --> 01:13:12,230
Okay.

992
01:13:12,970 --> 01:13:14,910
So I clarified that with.

993
01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:15,330
Oh, good.

994
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:16,110
Good, okay.

995
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:18,430
So you're not off the hook.

996
01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:19,470
I guess not.

997
01:13:19,650 --> 01:13:19,990
I guess not.

998
01:13:20,030 --> 01:13:21,650
We get to wave at Joe from outside.

999
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:24,210
Well, I was either going to be standing outside or standing

1000
01:13:24,210 --> 01:13:30,350
inside. So now it's not, you know, March. No, it might be nice. Oh, yeah, it's not November.

1001
01:13:30,670 --> 01:13:36,070
It's the best. Oh, yeah. November we've had cold days. The first year I ran, I remember standing

1002
01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:42,110
in a foot of snow out there with ice driven. Oh, there in the national election during COVID.

1003
01:13:42,150 --> 01:13:47,930
Oh, yeah. We had flores, the squalls come through. Yeah. And everybody was lined up outside.

1004
01:13:48,150 --> 01:13:52,830
I got in because everybody felt bad for me, apparently. Oh, yeah, that was it.

1005
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:59,850
No, we talked about some personnel things that are cooking or that we've voted on so that's was it for me?

1006
01:13:59,970 --> 01:14:00,230
Excellent.

1007
01:14:00,630 --> 01:14:01,570
It's slightly more than.

1008
01:14:04,670 --> 01:14:11,370
First thing I want to bring out is we can save $1,000 on the cost of the new ambulance.

1009
01:14:11,770 --> 01:14:14,570
If we can make a payment of $70,

1010
01:14:16,780 --> 01:14:19,040
$77, $78.

1011
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:33,880
We can make a payment of $77,694. By the end of the month, we can save $1,000.

1012
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:39,820
Will it be here any sooner? No. Now, that is money we already had allocated, correct?

1013
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:45,920
Yes. There's money in the revolving fund for this expenditure.

1014
01:14:46,460 --> 01:14:49,560
$1,000, $1,000. What was that figure again? How much?

1015
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:59,180
if we pay it now we can save a thousand dollars the chassis payment right now is

1016
01:14:59,180 --> 01:14:59,980
178,000.

1017
01:15:01,260 --> 01:15:25,420
By the end of the month, we can save $1,000. I make a motion to pay the $78,694 to the, it actually will be $77,000, so you think it's a track for $1,000. All right, 694. By the end of August. All right, so we'll amend that motion. $77,694 by the end of August to the end of its payment.

1018
01:15:25,420 --> 01:15:29,040
and it's sugar-low families.

1019
01:15:29,940 --> 01:15:30,060
Second.

1020
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:31,400
All those in favor.

1021
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:32,040
All right.

1022
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,000
Here, we just saved a thousand

1023
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,000
we can put towards Karen.

1024
01:15:38,140 --> 01:15:40,160
Also, they've completed interviews

1025
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,820
for eight paramedics that applied.

1026
01:15:44,380 --> 01:15:47,240
And they've found three of them are assessed,

1027
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:48,660
should be qualified.

1028
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,080
He's going to have some follow-up communication.

1029
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,920
It doesn't work to determine if they would

1030
01:15:54,920 --> 01:16:03,320
I would like the position of the podium paramedic question.

1031
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,520
Do they, I should probably know this, but the podiums still have the background checks,

1032
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:08,760
right?

1033
01:16:12,340 --> 01:16:13,280
Yes, they should.

1034
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:20,660
And or the tertiary checks of reference, generally it's tertiary checks because they're coming

1035
01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:24,420
from other places that they've already received background checks on.

1036
01:16:24,420 --> 01:16:30,280
which is fine. However, I have, again, we may be some of us have seen out there, the

1037
01:16:30,980 --> 01:16:31,400
metaglass.

1038
01:16:31,580 --> 01:16:38,820
Even other places aren't doing due diligence, too, so I would maybe just...

1039
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:41,300
They still will get a background check.

1040
01:16:41,580 --> 01:16:44,300
Not rely on other agencies having done the background check.

1041
01:16:44,300 --> 01:16:47,960
Yeah, I think it's, unfortunately, you know, with the sign of the times, it's like we just

1042
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,440
need to get people in the door, but...

1043
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:52,100
They do driving and background check.

1044
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:52,480
That's great.

1045
01:16:53,660 --> 01:16:54,600
That's great.

1046
01:16:55,020 --> 01:16:55,320
That's great.

1047
01:16:55,320 --> 01:17:03,740
A month of September, this 17-unfilled per-dian firefighter shifts and a five-unfilled

1048
01:17:03,740 --> 01:17:04,600
paramedic.

1049
01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:12,260
He believes he can manage the unfilled per-dian paramedic openings, but they're kind of tied

1050
01:17:12,260 --> 01:17:16,200
on filling the unfilled per-dian firefighter shifts.

1051
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:27,180
So there may be about 14 days or more in September when staffing is down to four instead of the five that they have no.

1052
01:17:31,220 --> 01:17:42,740
And this was part of the conversation that your last meeting of adjusting the hourly rate for the protein and firefighters to compete with surrounding communities

1053
01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:50,160
We're just not getting the fight upon us, just not getting the applicants that they need to fill all hours.

1054
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,520
Can you just refresh where we were at on that from the last meeting?

1055
01:17:53,780 --> 01:17:57,920
Was he going to bring us more information or we just didn't want to vote on it?

1056
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,660
At this point, he was holding off on it for budgetary reasons.

1057
01:18:02,940 --> 01:18:07,960
There are just no funds unless he makes other changes within his budget.

1058
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,660
I've got some preliminary numbers that I can give you.

1059
01:18:13,780 --> 01:18:21,440
Our PDN firefighter rate is lowest in the region by $4 to $7, depending on qualifications.

1060
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:31,440
To create a competitive wage scale and potentially attract new PDN firefighters, he would need

1061
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:37,500
approximately $15,000 as required for the remainder of physical year, $26, and a budget

1062
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:41,680
an increase of approximately 47,000 for physically year 27.

1063
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,160
47 is a big number today.

1064
01:18:45,380 --> 01:18:46,060
It is.

1065
01:18:47,740 --> 01:18:48,500
Okay.

1066
01:18:49,660 --> 01:18:50,680
What's all I got?

1067
01:18:51,380 --> 01:18:52,600
Thank you, Maureen.

1068
01:18:52,860 --> 01:19:00,960
Just so everybody's aware that because of the limited funds in all of the budgets, this is

1069
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,040
now having an impact on services.

1070
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,260
So yeah, I mean, you're looking at almost half of September

1071
01:19:06,260 --> 01:19:10,500
where you're going to have four people instead of the five

1072
01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:13,400
that we've had and unfortunately,

1073
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,540
that's even with the revenue coming in and all that.

1074
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,520
We just, we can't, as good as it is to have that,

1075
01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:22,860
we can't count it towards the operation count.

1076
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,520
It's just, and some of the per-dem people

1077
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,460
because they've been working so many shifts

1078
01:19:27,460 --> 01:19:30,620
are reaching their max and can't be utilized.

1079
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,300
which we have no control over because it's labor laws.

1080
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:40,540
Well, it's not that it's an hampton retirement system and it's a state issue,

1081
01:19:40,660 --> 01:19:42,340
not necessarily a federal one.

1082
01:19:46,180 --> 01:19:46,380
All right.

1083
01:19:46,820 --> 01:19:48,520
That concludes the liaison's reports.

1084
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,220
Call for candidates.

1085
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,040
Energy committee slash community choice, energy aggregation is looking for two.

1086
01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:56,520
Ethics commission.

1087
01:19:56,900 --> 01:19:58,120
They are looking for one.

1088
01:19:58,220 --> 01:19:59,080
They meet as needed.

1089
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:04,660
planning board is looking for one and they will need to run again in March of

1090
01:20:04,660 --> 01:20:12,200
2027 that's one of the term expires is planning board alternates they meet

1091
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:17,100
twice a month doesn't say how many they need I guess they'll take as much as

1092
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:24,240
they can get appointments I do not see any can we just call it the ecccca

1093
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,960
I wouldn't have the easier to call the Energy Committee, you know.

1094
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,820
That might be a time twister as well.

1095
01:20:31,220 --> 01:20:34,120
I'm waiting for Select from Worth and to come up with a fan's

1096
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,380
your name instead, you know.

1097
01:20:35,940 --> 01:20:36,660
Energy committee.

1098
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,680
Power team, like power rangers.

1099
01:20:40,460 --> 01:20:45,200
I need a motion to accept the consent documents as listed on your agenda.

1100
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:46,040
So moved.

1101
01:20:46,780 --> 01:20:47,360
Do I have a second?

1102
01:20:47,780 --> 01:20:48,000
Second.

1103
01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:49,140
All those in favor?

1104
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:49,780
Aye.

1105
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:51,600
Correspondence.

1106
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:57,920
We had a pile of stuff, the abatement, we've already taken care of that.

1107
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:03,140
Yeah, that was on the consent of wetlands permit notification, a lot of vision land resources,

1108
01:21:03,380 --> 01:21:12,160
which is more information only, and then the Rockhamham County fiscal year budget is also

1109
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,900
on here, and that is just an information only thing as well if anybody wants to take a look

1110
01:21:16,900 --> 01:21:17,300
at it.

1111
01:21:17,300 --> 01:21:22,380
In this folder, visit our comments.

1112
01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:24,140
Okay.

1113
01:21:24,620 --> 01:21:25,940
I got a question.

1114
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:27,200
Are you a visitor?

1115
01:21:28,420 --> 01:21:28,580
No.

1116
01:21:28,860 --> 01:21:29,140
Okay.

1117
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,040
From another planet.

1118
01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:31,580
Right.

1119
01:21:33,220 --> 01:21:34,200
This recommendation.

1120
01:21:34,580 --> 01:21:35,220
Recommendation.

1121
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:35,920
Recommendation.

1122
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:37,400
Last item on the agenda.

1123
01:21:38,020 --> 01:21:40,820
Is that the way I have the solar?

1124
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:41,280
Correct.

1125
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:42,280
Yes.

1126
01:21:43,060 --> 01:21:43,740
It's a board.

1127
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:44,900
Need to know.

1128
01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:50,840
So, you're approving that by the extension agenda, it's already signed, yeah, it's all

1129
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:51,080
set.

1130
01:21:51,420 --> 01:21:52,440
It was in the stack of things.

1131
01:21:52,660 --> 01:21:53,960
It's in the stack, it's this one right here.

1132
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,300
Yeah, but is there anybody have any question about that?

1133
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:09,520
That was a constituent's referral to me came to me, and I spoke to the TA and the assessor,

1134
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,200
And it was a oversight, if you will.

1135
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:18,820
The abatement was on, he had an abatement.

1136
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,800
It was taken off for some reason.

1137
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,500
We couldn't, I still don't know.

1138
01:22:24,020 --> 01:22:26,840
The exemption went away mysteriously,

1139
01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:29,740
then it reared back, and we did it back in a minute.

1140
01:22:29,740 --> 01:22:34,020
Yeah, so just an oversight, they got 286 bucks back in their pocket.

1141
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,940
Yeah, just so you, I didn't know if there were any questions.

1142
01:22:37,660 --> 01:22:40,420
It's not the normal abate.

1143
01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:42,580
Thank you.

1144
01:22:42,940 --> 01:22:45,940
I'm sure you constituent appreciate it as well.

1145
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:50,640
What is a form of select when I won't name them, of course.

1146
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,740
Long, long time ago.

1147
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:53,540
Yeah, right.

1148
01:22:55,060 --> 01:22:56,260
No visitor comments?

1149
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,540
I'm assuming we don't need the non-polic that's listed there

1150
01:22:59,540 --> 01:23:01,760
as well because we took care of that earlier.

1151
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:05,720
Upcoming select board meetings and events, Monday,

1152
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:14,760
September 14th is the next one my day September 28th after that and Wednesday October 7th plus I also

1153
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:24,400
mentioned that Tuesday September 8th is the primary 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. the polls will be open and with

1154
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:33,920
that everybody's favorite motion to adjourn would you like to make that all those in favor hi

1155
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,680
All right. Thank you. Good.