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relax.
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» Yeah.

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Which way?

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[clears throat]

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» [cough]
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» To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.
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» [clears throat]

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» There are where you find C plat
on the top of page two. You may

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eliminate that whole
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» Yes.

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You can ask Jim.

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» Is this a report?

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» So that would be under
>> Where are you thinking during your part?

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want to get him out of here.

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» So, where do you want to put him?
>> If you want to as soon as possible.

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» Okay. We have a public hearing scheduled
at 1:30. Otherwise,

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» 110.
>> Oh, yes. 110. Sorry, can't read either.

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» After that. Okay. And then I struck out
the two trees technology. He's going to

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come in October instead of this. That's
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» It should be marked out already.
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[snorts]
>> Otherwise, I know of no other changes.

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» I'll move to approve the agenda as
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» I

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» I don't. Um,
I can I can do the explaining for you.

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» Okay.

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So, just for the sake of the record, the
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sorry, not sure what's going on today.

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» [clears throat]
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revenue source and the expenditures from
the MNP have to be restricted to the

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modernization or preservation of records
within the registered needs office.

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So when you're looking at supplementing
this budget, it is simply taking funds

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that are in the M&P fund, that bucket of
money, and allowing it to be spent in

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the expenditure budget. So the
expenditure budget was approved last

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year, but the project that was done
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So, I wrote a note on here that the fund
itself is only $139.73

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over budget, but the request is to move
five. So, that that gives registered

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deeds some comfort if some other item
comes up between now and the end of the

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year. If that money is not spent, it
stays in the fund. So, it doesn't go

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anywhere.
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extending or increasing the amount of
spending authority to cover the overage.

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And when you pass this resolution after
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that is exactly what you're approving is
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increase that spending authority.

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» Yep.
And so the resolution number is 2618

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2618
and it is the sole item on that

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resolution.

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» So probably
>> I don't know that he's here.

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» Showed up when I wasn't looking. Okay,
I'll turn it [clears throat] over to

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him.

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All right. Um, I have a applicant who
I've been kind of working on to try and

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come full-time. Uh, right now until he
finds housing and if everything works

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out, um, he will do that. As of now, he
would like to come on as part-time and

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help out. So, I'm requesting to hire
Presley Helm as part-time deputy at 25

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an hour. He's got 10 years of
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» Where's he from?
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with him at out at the rally the last
five years. So,

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» is there a motion to approve that?
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second discussion
in favor.

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» I I
>> and project Becket. I don't know if you

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guys have seen that on
social media or even the news. Um it's a

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anti- choking device that um it looks
like a plunger

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pops out whatever's instructing. Okay.
So there I've uh put in an order now I'm

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working with them to put in an order for
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daycare, and some churches and things
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looking at about 20 units.
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about $1,300 and they're going to match
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to $700
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» yeah. Well, yes, we're
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on them?
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don't think so.
>> Yeah, expiration and everything.

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» Well, I'm sure there is, but but I know
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» single use device or something. No,
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» probably not. If you're if you're
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look at the expiration date. You're
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» um but I thought it would just be like I
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like to provide it to the daycarees and
schools and things like that. So,

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» perfect.
>> Let you know.

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» All right. Thanks. Let's
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see how it goes.
>> Okay. All right. So, the first item on

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the agenda doesn't really need approval.
It's just for you guys to to see uh this

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administrative manual that I was
provided from NECOG. We I changed a few

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just a couple things like the building
permit and whatever, but it's very

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handy. We've not had anything like this
to be able to be used before. It's got a

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checklist for like a conditional use
permit, mining permits, building

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permits, all of it. It's just got a, you
know, to make sure you're checking off

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your stuff for public hearings.
>> When does

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» it's for It's not It's for my use. The
only thing that's for public, can I take

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control of this? Yeah.
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Can you type in there hand county for
me? Go to our website.

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» Oh, yeah. You want me to type this?
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here.
Okay. So, I just want to show you kind

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of what I've So, I've updated this the
zoning web page here so everybody can

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see that. Um, I got rid of like all of
the stuff that was for the adoption and

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all of that because it's not relevant
anymore. I did leave for the public

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what's been repealed so they can refer
to the old one if they ever want to look

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at it. It's there but it shows that it's
been repealed effective last Friday. But

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the public has the op the ability to
look at um so if you look out on the

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window um we did add a zoning thing
right out here with some questionnaires

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on like how do I how do I apply for a
variance? How do I get a building

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permit? what do I have to do to do so?
Those kinds of things. Those are hanging

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on the window, which I think will be
helpful for the public. Um, but there's

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all of the applications are out here
that are in this manual. Um, they can go

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here and print it off themselves and
then bring it into the office. Okay. So,

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that's all there for the public to be
able to see. Okay. [clears throat]

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Any questions on that? um any objections
to like the use of this or anything like

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that? Uh I am still compiling the list
of uh fees throughout the state by

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county. Um I think that once I present
that spreadsheet to you guys, you'll be

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interested to look at these in other
counties. Some of them were like right

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in line with and there's things that
they are collecting money for that we

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are not. something that you guys could
consider and looking into. Okay.

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» So, I'll be bringing that up to the next
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Um, so that was just me presenting that
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Um,
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for for First District who does our
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for the GIS, I asked Darren how much it
would cost for him to or for First

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District to create new maps for the city
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» okay, so I I brought them in here for
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register of deeds uh can deal with.
Okay. So, we track by demand. So, the

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city of St. Or's map is from 1996.
That's [snorts] how old it is. And so,

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like anytime they annex something in or
create a new flat, it's been drawn on

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here. Uh, with the city of St. Lawrence,
I will just say, you know, we just did

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the AI play in the city of St. Florence
and we've been researching like

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vacations of alleys and streets to make
sure that they're up to date because if

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they've been vacated, you know, the half
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to the other property owner. Well, we've
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there hasn't been a vacation, the city
of St. Lawrence might want to consider

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it because people have built within that
right of way, which is no longer being

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used. So, you can see kind of how
cumbersome that is. Same with Okay, so

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the city of Millers is from 2002.
Um, I've talked with both entities

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about going with us. Maybe you guys
would have a little bit more

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clout. I don't know. I know St. St.
Lawrence is kind of working on one

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themselves. They kind of got a grant to
to update some stuff, but this would

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give us the ability like
here. Let me just go. Sorry, I got to go

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home. So, like on the GIS map, I would
then they would be adding a layer for

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us. So, and it would be listed here. So,
if you were in Miller, you would be able

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to see an overlay of where William H.
Miller's edition is where I mean, it

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would be in a different color for each
edition, which would be very, in my

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opinion, helpful for our job.
um just for those those purposes.

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» My job would be very helpful.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Susie Sus's in agreeance

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with that um that it would just they I
mean they haven't been updated for quite

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a few years. Uh
>> purchase request.

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» I'd make that.
>> Okay.

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» Thank you guys so much. I appreciate
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» Okay. And then the FYI, I kind of showed
you that the conditional use permit and

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the building permit application have
been updated on the website.

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[clears throat] So that was pretty
painless. Thank you.

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» Yeah, thank you.

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» There isn't anyone
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» I'll make a motion to
202618.

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» I'll make a motion to do 20 202618.
>> Second.

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Any discussion? All in favor? No.
>> Roll call.

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» I

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pass.

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[clears throat]

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Should we move Brad
in here?

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» Let Brad do his presentation.
>> Mine's really quick.

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» Not sure why. [cough]
[clears throat]

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» So, we're working on a couple sets of
drawings for a couple small bridge

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replacements. Just about done. culver.
>> Well, well, we're ripping out a little

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bridge. We're putting in a pre-cast box
culvert in two two different locations.

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They're the same shovel ready ones we
talked about la last time I was here.

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Um,
they're nearly in order. Uh, I I have a

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DOT review coming up here soon. Um,
404 permits are are are just about in.

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one is in and one but one has a little
hiccup

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is we're going to have to do some
wetland mitigation on one of them to the

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tune of about 40 grand.
Um happens to us once in a while you

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know you know um I I tried to select
some that were not environmentally

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sensitive but this one was just
sensitive enough.

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So what what what that amounts to is is
the project impacts some wetland acres.

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The court tells us what we have to do
and so we have to get some um what

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called wetland mitigation credits. We've
contacted a wetland mitigation bank.

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There's only one of them that we could
use and and and have a price. So right

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now um everything is ready to go on
that. So what we do is we sit on it

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until after we do the grant so know that
we won. So there's nothing to do right

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now. It's just I just wanted so we're
all mentally prepared. If we win that

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grant, we're going to have to buy the
them credits [clears throat] before we

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can have a bid
and we'll we'll handle that all for you.

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Um I have also I've got field work is
all done on your bridge inspections this

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year.
Nothing real sketchy or scary that I

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seen that you know some are getting
worse. One that pro possibly noteworthy.

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It is just east of Lake Louise. It's on
a grass road. I'm going to lower the

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right now. It's a 12 and 20 ton bridge.
I'm going to lower it to 10 ton max.

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What's going on is is the uh south of
that abutman is bulging out and tilting

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in. It's just a real tall wall and I'm
sure over the years the air pressure

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deterioration. So like like my fingers
are the gurners, you know, they're

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sticking over the back of the above and
I think the next course of action we'll

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we'll look keep monitoring it is if
there's another bridge removal project.

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That's probably one we'll go. Looks like
access to the property could come from

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the north. Now that the [clears throat]
roads there are not great either.

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There's no gravel on them, but it looks
like they blade the township must blade

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the earth. Any anyway, [clears throat]
it's you can see the farm entrances to

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the north. It's all grass right up to
that. I don't think anyone uses the

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bridge after we post it. So, I think
that's but that would be something in

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the future just so no one's surprised.
Otherwise,

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that's it. If anyone has any questions,
>> questions.

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[snorts]
>> Does this be used?

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» It doesn't look like it does now. And
I'm judging that from the wear on the

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grass road. So basically from the oil
road that goes to Lake Louise to the

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bridge is I
less is all grass. And then you go on

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the other side of the bridge and then
there's a field entrance up there a bit

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and it looks like they all come from the
north and it just

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it's worn from there and there's nowhere
here anymore. I don't think anyone does

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but you know a guy wants to before we
rip it out is

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touch bases with them but I can't use it
now anyway because it's posted.

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» Are you familiar with the bridge?
>> We go across the bridge. [laughter]

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I'm not saying you can't go across it,
but try not to put the

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» Oh, there I I know I mean there's been
grain trucks go

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» I'm sure there is. They I'm sure that
there is. I personally wouldn't, but I

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drove my pickup over it.
>> Oh, we go we go over.

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» Yeah, there's nothing no issues there.
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» we got past it right there.
>> Yeah, but it's getting a little sketchy.

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Like I said, if you
>> the walls are moving,

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» the walls are moving in and eventually
it will come to a point where it goes

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over the equilibrium point
and and I can't look into my crystal

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ball and tell when that is. That's why
it makes me a little nervous on that

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one.
>> Okay.

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» Thank you.
>> All right. No problem.

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» That's all I got.
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That beat this [clears throat] page.
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plan.
>> Well, I studied that because

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we have to turn it in by the end of
September. [clears throat]

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If any modifications are made today,
that would necessitate us coming back

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for a second meeting. If there's no
modifications made, then that's just a

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formality that I write it into
resolution form and we still come back

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later in the month to adopt the
resolution. So,

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» this is just
>> Yep. And if you approve it, then it

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becomes
the budget once that resolution is

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passed.
>> Right.

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So, this is an opportunity for anyone to
ask questions of you or me or anybody

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else sitting here. Um, because it was
scheduled for today and public notice

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was given, I would recommend that you
just hold this till the end before

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making decision in case somebody else
shows up later in the meeting and

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» wants to talk about it. Yep.
But this hasn't changed since our last

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meeting
>> in any way, shape or form. So

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I believe it is ready for adoption.

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And then that takes [clears throat] us
to room bridge.

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» All right.
My pile. Sorry.

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Okay.

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Um, [clears throat]
so I wasn't quite able to get my

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estimated cash balance in there. So,
I'll hand that around to you guys now.

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A couple that way and couple that way.
And we should have some left over for

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the anybody else who wants one. Um,
>> the jam.

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Yeah,
you got an extra one.

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Should have a couple extras.

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» Thank you.
Okay. So, I slid in the cash balance

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that we're rolling into this month with
uh I subtracted off the full depth

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reclamation project,
which um

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they the construction company keeps
pushing it back further and further. Uh

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they're into October now as far as their
estimation of when they can get here. I

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would prefer to not rip that road open
when it's harvest season. I think that's

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going to be a big mess and I'm going to
have a lot of people upset about it. So,

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I think if we can roll that into next
year, um I think the construction

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company is a little relieved with that
idea as well.

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So, I talked to Kent and he said, "Yeah,
that would work great if we could do

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that." Um, and he'll sit down with me
and we'll come up with a plan this

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winter.
>> Who's Kent?

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» Kent Austin is the foreman of the Wise
crew that is running the things

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for the full depth reclamation team.
Anyway, they were anticipating pulling

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together two teams and they weren't
weren't able to make it happen. So, his

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his plans went arry just like mine, I
guess.

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But kind of a bummer we can't can't get
that done this year. Anyway, so

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estimated will taxes that might be
coming in motor vehicle taxes and the

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expenses that we'll be paying for se for
August and September puts us about 1.8

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million in cash right now. Um
[clears throat]

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we have bills coming for the oil that
we're using at the moment to do our chip

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seal job. So, those haven't come in yet.
That it does feel like our cash balance

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is pretty high right now, which I don't
know. I know the money if we don't use

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it this year for that project, we'll
just roll into the cash balance of next

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year and we'll we can amend the budget
as needed for next year with that

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project.
As long as you guys are good with that,

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I guess.
Um, [sighs] would you guys be tore up if

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we pushed that off till next year? I
mean, I was hoping to get it done this

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this year, but we're not going to be
able to oil it because they quit

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producing oil midepptember
into October. So,

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» how soon do they start it in the spring?
>> They said they start further south in

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the spring and work their way north. And
he was guesstimating he'd get to us in

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June.

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So,
If we do push that to next year, can we

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get a written agreement with them? That
>> I know

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» that's when they're going to come
because

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» I was half tempted to perhaps
uh it was asked if we should just bid

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the project out and see,
I guess, what the best rates might be.

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That might not be a bad idea,
but that is something to consider, I

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guess, because it is kind of
frustrating.

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» When were they originally going to come
do this for us?

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» August. It was going to be August. And
then it was September and now it's early

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October and I'm not overly comfortable
with that, I guess. And we have to

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allocate about 5,000 ton of clay for the
project as well. Um, I was notified a

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couple weeks ago. So, I've been kind of
hunting for how easy it is to find clay

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and I've been calling land owners and
it's going to be interesting to pull all

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that together.
I think we're going to probably have to

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just kind of outsource it to
miscellaneous land owners and

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» little more. Yeah. Yep.
And then if we're looking at doing the

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projects for next year still that we
were initially planning down on the Ames

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store and the Danffort, [snorts]
then we'd have to be looking down there,

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too. So, so I've got some contacts with
some folks um on the 10 mile north that

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think they can provide clay. I've got
contacts on the Veilance South. Thanks,

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Dan, for your help. Um,
that I [clears throat] I think they

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might have what we need. I need to go
look at the quality of the clay and make

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sure that it's it's the quality that we
need, but

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but it's getting we're getting those
problems solved. So, and that comes with

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the job. And clay is one of the cheaper
things to buy. So,

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if that's what we need to do, um the
thing with that that full depth

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reclamation is if we can get a solid
surface area to work on. It's just would

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be really nice to have a nice solid work
area that we don't have to worry about

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potholes coming through the base. And
that's that's what we fight constantly.

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So, I talked to Merl Hansen with LTAP
today. I talked to Greg Babra yesterday

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and other highway superintendents and
they really think we're on the right

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track
with with what we're looking at doing.

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Merl rode around with me this morning
and looked at the roads with me and he

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said, "Yeah, that would solve a lot of
problems and it'll be a permanent

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solution, not a not a patch this, patch
that, throw it, wait for it to crack

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again situation."
So [sighs and gasps]

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So I guess that's kind of my goal is to
find permanent solutions instead of

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instead of temporary where you have to
go back next year and work on it again

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and next year and work on it again.
If we can just do a maintenance

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situation where you go back and crack
seal and then you go back and

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[clears throat and cough] chip seal and
just get it on a rotation

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would be nice.
But um

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but I guess if you guys would
>> Yeah, I mean we talked on us too on

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that. I don't know who else you talk to
about it and if there are going to be

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the first part of October that hits
pretty much the heart of harvest and

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» and that's even if they do show up
>> October instead of beginning it's going

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to be they're going to say it's going to
be they go till frost or freeze. that

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they can,
>> but I don't know.

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» But at the same time, then that road is
sitting kind of I guess for me it's

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exposed all winter long and
I'd rather slap a chips on it, which

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there's kind of pros and cons to that
because either the softs reveal

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themselves and then you can go in and
fix them over the winter or

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it's not protected. So,
I don't know. To me, it makes it more

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vulnerable.
>> [clears throat]

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» But
but as long as we do it right the first

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time and I guess I'd rather let it have
thawed temperatures and not go straight

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into freeze right after we do it.
>> So the clay that was they need that

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across all the project.
>> They need an inch of cray clay across

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the whole project because we're a very
nonplastic. our our gravel is is light

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is lightly plasticity. But
>> so that was something that they come up

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with after they did the core
>> after we did our core samples with Swan

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and Associates. They looked at those
tests and that's what they determined

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» because I don't remember them saying
anything about clay when they talked us

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through.
>> Nope. [laughter]

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It kind of surprised me too.
>> So the inter clay gets blended in when

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you lay it back down. It's not a layer.
>> Correct. Correct. So that the dust pods

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need that clay to bind to to give it
that to give it the solid layer. Kind of

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like gravel needs that plasticity to to
pack in properly. And that's that's kind

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of what this would do.
But um

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» so that's I mean
>> that gives me

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» we don't do we need to bid that process.
Uh, you know, it depends. Is one person

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going to supply all that clay or are we
going to spread it out amongst all the

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land owners? Uh, to reach $50,000 in
clay,

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» I suppose. Yeah.
[clears throat]

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» Uh, let's see here.
>> You said only 5,000 ton.

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» Yeah. Yep. 5,000 ton at $10 a ton.
>> 10

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» is 50,000. I know. It shouldn't be that
high. It shouldn't be that high.

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» I think you should get all the clay.
>> You would think so. Do you have some

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clay, sir? [laughter]
>> I think,

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» but yeah. So, if if y'all could get your
connections in in touch with your

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connections. I'm trying to keep it in
the localized area of the project so we

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have less less hauling.
Um, I know there's a pile by the school

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that they're trying to get rid of
because um, the construction company

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that did the pipeline in town, well,
Olsson Construction brought it in,

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parked it there to use it and then the
school was like, we thought they were

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going to take it with them and they
didn't. They just left it. So, they're

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more than happy for us to take their
clay. So, that's a,

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» you know, it's about 30 truckloads.
>> What's that about? 30 times 25

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on math.
>> Yeah.

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» So
>> about a third.

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» Yeah. About a third what we need. Well,
750 ton.

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» So free.
>> It is. It's free. So that's that's a

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handy solution to two problems, their
problem and ours.

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But it's a good start. And then I've
got, like I said, a couple land owners

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who are willing to let me come out, take
a look at their stuff and make sure that

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it's what we would like. But
>> so would you talk to him or you want us

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to
>> decide on whether or not to do or to go

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ahead with October?
>> Honestly, there's nothing there's

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nothing official. It's just uh
it's just a word of mouth. We're going

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off of the other county's bid. I I
looked into it. We're going off the

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other county's bid agreement. Um
we're the construction company is really

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flexible. Loisea I talked to the um Tim
at the office in Lisea and he said yeah

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this is usually how it works. He says
either it works for you guys or it

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doesn't work for you guys. You tell us
no. We move on to the next person. It's

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really he said we don't have a problem
with it. [clears throat]

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And I'm kind of like well I would really
like a sit down and a piece of paper.

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But
>> how how so is there was there reason

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they've got two months behind? Is it are
they not making progress like they

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thought they should or are they
>> I think they estimated on the fact that

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they were going to put two crews
together. So [clears throat] they were

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they were hoping they could have two
crews working in separate locations and

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then when that didn't happen.
>> I remember that discuss. So if we put

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them if
>> we put it off to next year, they going

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to honor the bid that they got this
year.

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» We should probably talk to him about
that. I'm assuming

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» I would because I mean
>> I'm assuming

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» we careful we budgeted for the
>> correct

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» and using that bit.
>> Correct. I agree. I agree. And I if I

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talk to them that might
>> Yeah. And I mean I guess to see and

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maybe they won't paid this year if
that's

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the fact. But I think but to be clear
they're still saying they're going to

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come in October.
>> They're still well uh I talked to Kent

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and told him the possibility of us
switching.

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» Um he he seemed relieved if we would. He
said, "Well, if [laughter]

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» it's not a good sign,
>> so

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» like you said, then your road then the
road's open."

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» Yes. And the and the semis are going to
be pounding on it.

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» Yeah. Well, I'll talk to them and ask
them if they'll honor their bid because

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we had them on the schedule. And
honestly, they're really reasonable

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people. So, I don't see that they
wouldn't, but um I'll tell them our

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concerns and
get an answer on that because next year

419
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:51,839
we'd be going off next year's bid unless
we, like I said, unless we drew up a

420
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:59,820
whole different set of plans and just
bid it out ourselves.

421
00:36:54,160 --> 00:37:04,400
But, but we're not Whoa. Okay, sorry.
[snorts] Um,

422
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:10,640
» pardon.
>> Do you guys Are you ready for that?

423
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Okay. Um, I have got one bid got dropped
off at my office.

424
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:22,040
Open that as well.
>> Yep.

425
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,040
» Perfect.

426
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Okay.

427
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,830
» Need a letter opener. [laughter]

428
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:57,200
» I know. That's
>> Do we have to read them out? Yeah. Let's

429
00:37:54,720 --> 00:38:02,680
see. [clears throat]
>> Uh this is a bid for fresh gravel from

430
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,680
» more
>> Morris

431
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:17,119
» Morris Incorporated.
Um but it doesn't say

432
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:22,760
» uh 38 inch rock chip material 550 tons
at $42 per ton.

433
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,760
» Okay.

434
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:37,640
Next one is
excavating LLC,

435
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,640
South Dakota.

436
00:38:39,381 --> 00:38:41,401
[snorts]

437
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:56,920
their bid for 5,500
tons of class B type one crushed rock

438
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,920
delivered $52 per ton.

439
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,520
» The Morris one was delivered as well. I
assume

440
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:05,680
» lots of those.
>> I assume it's all I mean that's how we

441
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:11,680
advertise.
>> Well, hand Oh, delivered. Yes,

442
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:17,200
» it it was. And it doesn't say delivered
anymore.

443
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:21,560
» Yeah, it was part of the part of the bid
for request.

444
00:39:27,197 --> 00:39:29,217
[snorts]

445
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,800
is $45 per tone.

446
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:50,200
» It does specify the aggregate size,
right? It's very specific, right?

447
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,200
» Very specific.

448
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:56,727
» Yeah, that should have been on the when
I asked for bids. Y [clears throat]

449
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,880
» they're secure envelopes.

450
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:12,359
» You know who's that one from? Jim, can
you tell

451
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,040
» where you decimated?
>> Incorporated.

452
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:24,880
» Okay.
[laughter]

453
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:29,599
» It's like a Oh,
>> they were making sure it was safe.

454
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:35,800
They've done that before.
Waiting for the auditor to open it and

455
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,800
then find out he wasn't supposed to.

456
00:40:39,903 --> 00:40:41,923
[laughter]

457
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:50,520
» It's like one of those presents.
>> Yeah.

458
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,520
» Wrapped in duct tape.

459
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:04,680
All right. 38 [clears throat] in rock
chip material, 5,500 tons, $38 per ton.

460
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:22,240
» That was the spec.
>> Is this like a form that we is our form?

461
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:26,359
It is the form that verifies I guess who
they're verifying their bid.

462
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:32,880
» I mean I just
>> I should probably put on there to write.

463
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:37,920
» Okay, never mind. I put out the
instructions to complete this. Oh no,

464
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:40,960
that's just
>> we have to sign.

465
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:46,079
» And then on the back you guys sign which
one we accept. Do we want to?

466
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,200
» You say you had another one or that's
one of these.

467
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:55,440
» I think that's the four of them. I gave
the one to Jim that I had.

468
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:58,319
» So 5 45 42 38
>> 42 52

469
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,119
» 52
>> 45 and 38.

470
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:12,640
» So Spencer's is the lowest price.
[snorts]

471
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:16,720
Well, Spencer Cory is [clears throat] 38
lowest bid is what

472
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:22,560
» I make move we approve the
>> $38 bid from Spencer Cory's second.

473
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:27,079
» Okay.
>> All in favor?

474
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,079
» I

475
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,560
» make sure that it's
>> delivered. I will double check that they

476
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:40,800
saw that.
>> They're that low. I know I've had a

477
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:43,800
couple of contractors call and ask me
>> what's

478
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:51,200
» there is it's it all depends on their
setup how

479
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:55,599
» well I just I just
>> just double check on

480
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,819
» I know I'm with you that's a that's a
decent number [snorts]

481
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,720
» you know [laughter]
I

482
00:43:02,694 --> 00:43:07,240
» [snorts]
>> real and they run on

483
00:43:07,279 --> 00:43:10,920
[snorts]
>> still

484
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:19,680
» a lot of people
>> some sort of delivery slides or

485
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:25,359
something.
Okay. So,

486
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:32,800
uh moving on to the next thing.
I would like to um [clears throat]

487
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:39,359
request to bid road graders or a road
graater. Um here I know

488
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:44,720
I do believe I've got the specs on there
for you guys, don't I? I am going to ask

489
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:51,040
that we change one thing about the
joystick operating system.

490
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:56,319
We I guess all of our operators if they
have the same

491
00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:00,720
» if they have the same operating systems,
it's not so confusing to be able to

492
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,280
switch blades [clears throat]
between the guys.

493
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,960
But

494
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:18,720
» what do you want to you want to change
the wording on this?

495
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:23,040
» Uh a little bit. Um, a joystick
operating system is preferred under the

496
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:27,920
beginning and specifications. The first
sentence

497
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:32,640
um just
>> I change it to something else then what?

498
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:36,800
» No, in the
>> on the agenda it doesn't have that

499
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:41,599
sentence.
Does it

500
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:47,240
» I didn't think it carried over. Okay.
>> Must have got it right when it needed

501
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:47,240
to.

502
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:54,359
But I thought Doug locked it down before
it got over there. But anyway,

503
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,640
» so moved.
>> Second.

504
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:08,560
» I
>> I

505
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,160
» um
>> So was this taking the place of the one

506
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,839
that you were going to buy
>> it? Yeah, because we needed to bid it

507
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,319
out.
>> Oh.

508
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,599
» So, so we're we're doing it
professionally and officially.

509
00:45:20,246 --> 00:45:26,160
[laughter]
We're trying to behave ourselves. That's

510
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:29,160
what we're trying to do for once, right?
>> No.

511
00:45:42,516 --> 00:45:51,960
» [clears throat]
>> Uh, I move to approve 20 26-17.

512
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,960
» I'll second

513
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:56,800
» resolution.
[snorts]

514
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,640
» The resolution.
>> I

515
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:03,640
» I
>> I

516
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,800
Okay.

517
00:46:08,061 --> 00:46:15,359
[clears throat] And then [sighs]
I think he's got a copy. So unless you

518
00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:21,640
if you guys don't want a copy, I can
take it back.

519
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,640
Stick it in my file.

520
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:30,240
Let you take a look at it. So basically
it's verifying that if we are submitting

521
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:36,160
applications for the bridge improvement
grant program which is repairs uh these

522
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:43,599
are the three bridges as you drive north
um of bailand there there's a bridge

523
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:48,400
kind of at walk-ins concis and keers
kind of in that area south of the 10

524
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:57,079
mile road
but that is the the bridges that we

525
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:57,079
agreed to amend onto the 5-year PL. So,

526
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:04,880
and that will be a 20% match for those
repairs.

527
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:10,760
Of course, it got it'll be down the line
as we we have to win the grant first.

528
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:26,480
And then uh finally, I guess I was
hoping to have you guys delegate to

529
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:32,079
individuals to work with me on the
changes we're kind of anticipating

530
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:37,800
coming down the pike. Uh I guess to try
and lessen expenses on our our road

531
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,800
repairs.

532
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:45,119
» Well, some of them Yeah, some of them
need to be switched back to gravel. I

533
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:49,599
figured the commissioners that represent
the majority of the people out there,

534
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:56,000
the roads that are traveled, you guys
know the routes that are taken. Um,

535
00:47:53,680 --> 00:48:01,359
I would like your input before I just
kind of go go slapping a label on a

536
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:06,640
road. But, um,
>> are you excluding Greg and June?

537
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:09,599
» Huh?
>> The commissioners that represent the

538
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,880
most are gravel.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

539
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:25,079
recommendations,

540
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:39,680
» but I just I just want to come up with a
uniform plan before I present it to

541
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:43,520
everybody in the public and and cause a
stir that isn't necessarily needed, if

542
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:51,599
you know what I mean. Just kind of to
fine-tune it before we bring it

543
00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:56,680
to the public for the changes.
So,

544
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,680
» I would be willing to

545
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:00,119
position.

546
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:09,440
» I appreciate it. Thanks, guys.
>> So,

547
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,079
» I do.
>> Okay. We'll try not to make it too big

548
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:17,079
of a thing,
but

549
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:22,240
[clears throat]
>> debating between oil and going back to

550
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,040
gravel. It is going to be the same
thing. And

551
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,440
» it is
ducks in a row when we make those

552
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:31,599
decisions.
>> That's just it. I don't take it lightly.

553
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:41,559
That's for sure.
That's not a not easy choices to make in

554
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:41,559
but

555
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,520
» I was going to say did you guys have any
other questions?

556
00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:50,839
if you're ready.
>> Thank you. Thanks.

557
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:10,160
» All right,
back to open meetings.

558
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:16,640
Um, there were three laws that became
effective on July 1 and I have each of

559
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:22,480
them here by their bill number and so
there were changes made to the rules

560
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:27,440
relating to executive session. Um, so I
have them up here on the board for you.

561
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:30,960
They're also linked on your agenda.
So of course the stuff that deals with

562
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,960
the disciplining of a student don't not
apply.

563
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:43,440
There was considerable discussion about
[snorts] how to police discussions

564
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:48,559
inside of executive session and there
was some banter back and forth about

565
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:56,400
recording them and then keeping those
locked away and then the uh if a

566
00:50:52,960 --> 00:51:00,319
complaint was made then the open meeting
commission could then review the

567
00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:04,240
recordings to determine if it was true
or not.

568
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:09,599
So anyway, some of these are the same,
some of them don't have a great deal of

569
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:15,040
changes to them. Um, some of the changes
that took place previous to this year

570
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:21,359
included the ability to discuss security
plans, um, vulnerability assessments.

571
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:26,240
So like when I talk about some of the
homeland security stuff or the network

572
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:30,480
security stuff then that can be an
executive session if it would be

573
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:33,655
something that a bad actor could use
against us. [clears throat]

574
00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:41,520
So you'll see those. I'm not going to
read this verbatim, but um it also talks

575
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:45,839
about blueprints for buildings,
infrastructure plans

576
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:50,559
because again there's a lot of effort
under way right now [snorts] to

577
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:58,559
penetrate public utilities whether it's
water, sewer or electricity

578
00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:02,079
as well as just computer systems. So
uh discussing the location of any

579
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:06,400
ammunitions, weapons, biological,
chemical or nuclear agents. Luckily, we

580
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:12,079
probably don't have to cover that one.
Um, other military or law enforcement

581
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:18,000
equipment or personnel.
So, it's going to be important for

582
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,119
you to become familiar with these when
you're asked to do executive sessions so

583
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:27,920
that you're screening them
appropriately. Even if it means starting

584
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:31,760
the meeting, the discussion then shifts
to something that's not related. you

585
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:36,559
have the option to go back out of the
meeting into open session, then return

586
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:40,559
to executive session. Um, the
disadvantage of that is that the people

587
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:44,319
that want to listen to the conversation
are going to be on that yo-yo with you.

588
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,319
So, you'll have to figure out a plan for
that.

589
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:56,359
» They don't specify.
I'm guessing at least an audio

590
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:56,359
recording.

591
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,119
» Uh, right now it's a suggestion.

592
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,880
Still only class two. It's like we're on
the stop sign.

593
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,480
We're serious about it, but not too
serious.

594
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:27,520
Okay, this changes the the agenda part
of it. A proposed agenda is required by

595
00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:31,200
statute. must list all items to be
considered by the public body during the

596
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:35,920
official meeting. The proposed agenda
items must be described in sufficient

597
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:39,680
detail to reasonably inform the public
of any official business or public

598
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:45,359
policy intended to be considered during
the meeting. I think uh our agendas are

599
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:50,000
detailed. I've seen some that are still
bullet points. So, as long I think as

600
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,480
long as we keep doing what we're doing,
we're going to be fine.

601
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:11,040
This one says, "The state shall provide
public notice of a meeting at least 72

602
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:15,200
hours. I asked for the state's
attorney's opinion on this and he says

603
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:22,000
the county does not qualify under this.
This is specific to county agencies

604
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:26,880
and offices. So, that's probably a good
thing because sometimes we have trouble

605
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:33,200
assembling everything within time for 24
hours, much less 72. But, um, I think

606
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:38,880
generally
you're looking at boards and committees

607
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:43,839
at the state level, not legislative
commissions, so to speak, like you guys

608
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:48,720
are. So, if the legislature is going to
meet, they call a special meeting and

609
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:53,359
they got [clears throat] that covered.
uh the use of the website.

610
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:58,880
We use that website, but currently we're
locked out of it. Don't know why. Um

611
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:04,160
I've asked to be reinstated on it where
it can be made available to anybody

612
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:10,119
across the state or across the world.
I'll keep asking. So those are your big

613
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,119
changes in statute.

614
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:18,280
Close.
Which then takes us back to

615
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:27,040
Plato Township. I don't see anybody.
Hey, there we are.

616
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:31,359
» Okay.
Really need to get them eyes in the back

617
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:38,800
of my head fixed. Okay. So, a summary of
what happened here in 2025.

618
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:42,720
Each township has a annual meeting held
in March on the first Tuesday of the

619
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:47,520
month. During that meeting, they set
their levies amongst other things. And

620
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:54,400
then by the end of March, they're turned
into my office.

621
00:55:50,400 --> 00:56:00,799
After that, um, they really just kind of
sit there until July 15th because July

622
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:06,319
15th is the last date
that local government can request an opt

623
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:09,599
out, get it published, and get feedback
on whether it's going to be referred to

624
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,599
a vote.
>> Um,

625
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,799
» I didn't look at the exact date. What

626
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:24,720
forever.
>> Yep, that was my guess. 20 years.

627
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:29,520
» Two separate ones.
>> Total 13

628
00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:33,599
» 10,3
No 13,6

629
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:37,040
» 13,1
>> 131

630
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:41,119
» That's in two separate.
>> Yes.

631
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:46,559
Okay. So
then about this time of year I touch

632
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:50,000
them again because then um once the
growth figures are brought over from the

633
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,720
director of equalization then I can
start working on levies. So in our

634
00:56:52,880 --> 00:57:00,319
computer system I take that information
and I load it into a module within our

635
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:05,040
software which then helps to calculate
the levies. The problem came is that I

636
00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:12,000
did not enter
the opt out for Plato Township, which

637
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:17,440
meant that no tax was levied, which then
as a consequence means that I cannot

638
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:22,160
arrange for them to be sent a check for
that levy because it doesn't exist,

639
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:27,760
which means that their expected revenue
was short that $13,100.

640
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:32,000
I submitted the claim to our insurance
provider, which is the South Dakota

641
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:37,200
Public Insurance Alliance, who didn't
answer right away. They had some,

642
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:41,359
I'm going to call them anecdotal
suggestions.

643
00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:45,680
One of them was because it deals with
taxes that it's not something that they

644
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:51,839
cover because they do have an exclusion
in their policy for tax related claims.

645
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:58,079
Um, ultimately,
we did get it. So they submitted it over

646
00:57:54,799 --> 00:58:01,440
as a potential claim on the bond that we
purchase

647
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:05,839
which is actually carried by a company
called AIG.

648
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:10,559
AIG provided us a notice that they were
denying the claim as well because it

649
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:15,280
didn't fit into the criteria for them to
make payment of the claim which is that

650
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:19,440
they didn't see that a crime had been
committed. And two, if a crime had been

651
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,160
committed, it fell below the threshold
for their deductible.

652
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:30,160
Well,
>> yeah, they basically wanted me to fill

653
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:38,079
out a form [clears throat]
admitting to theft.

654
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:43,880
» No, I sent it to Greg, I think. Yeah, I
I wasn't comfortable with it, but I did

655
00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:43,880
it. I played the game.

656
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,920
Well, I think that's probably

657
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:54,880
the best way they get out of covering
claims like that.

658
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:58,559
» Allegical error is a crime.
>> Yeah, I think so. I'd say it's a pretty

659
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:04,680
good tool on their side.
>> I don't see why AIT is involved. I know

660
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,680
you said you're saying

661
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:11,440
insurance alliance or whatever it is
sent it to them because they know that

662
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,480
it was a crime. Correct.
>> No.

663
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,040
They sent it over there because that's
who does the bond. That's who actually

664
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,920
holds our bond.
>> The bond.

665
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:24,799
» Yep. Okay. So, I learned a lot about
bonds. If the bond would have covered

666
00:59:22,319 --> 00:59:30,799
it, it would have only been a loan. So,
if we'd have paid 131, we would be

667
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:35,839
expected to pay it back. Well, in this
environment, 131

668
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:39,920
and borrowing that money against a bond,
I mean, that's

669
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:45,760
kind of stupid in my opinion because
you're going to end up paying it back.

670
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:50,160
So, I found out that even though we get
told during our meetings that you have

671
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:54,880
this bond there to protect you, it
honestly doesn't protect us very well at

672
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:58,079
all. What we would need to do is to get
the same thing that an attorney, a

673
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:03,280
doctor, or some other professional would
get, which is an ax or omission policy,

674
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:07,440
which I looked into, and it is very,
very different. It is a full-fledged

675
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:11,280
insurance policy that covers acts and
omissions.

676
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:16,160
Whether it's a professional person or a
public official, it doesn't matter.

677
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:22,720
So,
that was an education in of itself.

678
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:26,720
So, as it stands right now, the township
did everything that they were supposed

679
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:31,040
to do. The one thing that didn't happen
that was supposed to happen was that I

680
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:37,359
should have entered it. Uh, so that
resulted in them missing $13,100

681
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:41,760
in revenue. So far, it's been denied by
the South Dakota Public Assurance

682
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:46,880
Alliance, been denied by AIG, which
means it's now up to you guys to decide

683
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:51,359
if it's a compensible claim
>> for yourselves. Is there an appeal

684
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:54,880
process for either one of those?
>> Sadly, no, because they're not

685
01:00:53,280 --> 01:01:01,160
full-fledged insurance companies. So,
you cannot appeal to the South Dakota

686
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,160
Division of Insurance.

687
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:12,000
» So, what the omission is they Plato
Township

688
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:17,760
did [snorts] get their uh 13,0001, but
they didn't pay 13,0001. None of their

689
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:22,960
taxpayers received a bill with that opt.
>> So does the opto get paid all split

690
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:25,280
between spring and or does it get levied
all

691
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:29,119
» that's in the normal schedule? Yes.
>> Yeah. So there's no way to levy it on

692
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:33,680
the second round.
>> But there is for next year.

693
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,920
» There is for next year.
>> Yes.

694
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:43,200
They could do if they wanted to make up
for this lost revenue internally, they

695
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:47,040
could do a second opt out or third
actually for that amount that they're

696
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,599
missing
>> which would apply for one year next

697
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,160
year.
>> Yep.

698
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:57,200
» So be a double wing next year.
>> Yep.

699
01:01:55,119 --> 01:02:02,000
» Well, yep. They can make it a one year
if they

700
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:08,400
» That's what we would do as the county if
that happened to us.

701
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:12,680
Can I ask whether or not there was um
special use of 13,000

702
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:20,520
that you guys had in mind that was
public?

703
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:27,240
» Was it emergency [clears throat]
situation needed to be addressed?

704
01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:39,400
» Well, I was thinking It was uh you're
thinking that you actually had to have

705
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,400
that

706
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,400
reason that was

707
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:54,200
important to public safety
uh or the continued township

708
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:54,200
governmental operations.

709
01:02:55,040 --> 01:03:03,119
Maybe there are ways that obtain that
those monies.

710
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:10,000
Maybe there are ways that we can help if
you really need it for that road.

711
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:14,760
And absence of that kind of maintenance
is a

712
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,760
danger

713
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:22,599
$13,000.

714
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,720
has to be done

715
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:33,880
and you need to pay the interest on
that.

716
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:43,319
Maybe it isn't that kind of spending
that we had in mind.

717
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:52,880
It's just a constant maintenance
pushes it that much farther back

718
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,880
and
scholarship

719
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:20,079
as borrowing money.
[snorts] That's one option.

720
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:26,039
Any other ideas? Well, the insurance
company

721
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:26,039
insurance

722
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:34,680
determined that there was not a loss
here.

723
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:43,920
So there is no loss to you.
There is a loss to you in the sense that

724
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:48,359
you [clears throat] can't achieve what
those supposed to achieve.

725
01:04:51,680 --> 01:05:01,039
» We can levy it for 27
right now. Is there time to do that?

726
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:05,839
» I would find out for sure.
>> Seems like late season.

727
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:10,240
» It should have been done by July 15, but
they've made exceptions in the past for

728
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:15,680
school districts.
And you pay the interest

729
01:05:14,319 --> 01:05:18,920
» if you had to borrow the money.
>> Yes, that's

730
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,520
» But we're only going to pay
>> number out of it.

731
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:27,200
» We're going to we're only going to pay
interest for one year because the next

732
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,799
year your tax goes around, you're going
to pay it off.

733
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,720
» Yes.
>> I'm not saying we're going to do that.

734
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:37,160
But I mean that's that would be the that
would be the length of time that

735
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:56,039
» the other thing that
Friday is about using some of the county

736
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:56,039
traffic to do the project.

737
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:03,160
» What do we have
here? gravel.

738
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,599
How many time you guys?

739
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,119
» What's a ton?

740
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,880
I know.

741
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,960
» Yeah.

742
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:56,359
» 22 miles.
>> That's 575 tons.

743
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,280
» Per mile.

744
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:06,386
What's that roughly worth?
[clears throat]

745
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:30,839
You want to do I can look at
cost

746
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:36,920
as well.
>> Yeah.

747
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,520
» Well,

748
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:03,480
So I think honestly I think we have done

749
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:12,280
» is that a base course yet?
>> No, I think that one's got some to it.

750
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,880
But
>> yeah,

751
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:30,440
» how are you guys?
Who are you going to do?

752
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:30,440
» We got

753
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,920
strictly.
Yeah.

754
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:58,640
» Well, our our our uh stance on that is
we're not in the business to haul gravel

755
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:01,279
for other townships when there's when
there's operators out there that'll do

756
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:05,520
it.
>> We don't want to run competition.

757
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:08,520
» Absolutely.
>> Yeah.

758
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:14,960
Let me pull my numbers together. Make
sure that I'm not

759
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:22,120
» That's probably that's the only thing we
have. Martin is the next closest

760
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,120
basically after that.

761
01:09:22,480 --> 01:09:25,880
» Yeah, [clears throat] Martin.

762
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:36,960
Would the auditor's office, state
auditor's office have a problem with us

763
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:42,759
settling this problem in this manner?
There has been no determination

764
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,759
as to

765
01:09:47,839 --> 01:09:50,839
speculate.

766
01:09:54,000 --> 01:10:03,640
» I would say they probably wouldn't have
a problem as long as we had all clear

767
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:03,640
today, tomorrow, 20 years from now.

768
01:10:05,803 --> 01:10:07,823
[clears throat]

769
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:15,000
this at all. I'm talking about purpose

770
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:40,760
insurance
that isn't a reason for that.

771
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:50,000
At the same time, we're rejecting their
logic.

772
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:56,239
The determination
was wrong.

773
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:58,259
» I made that.
[clears throat]

774
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:13,480
Do you guys have the funds to cover
trucking do you think this year? If we

775
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,480
provided the grads,

776
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,360
» well they

777
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:30,480
gota [clears throat]
guess just to backtrack a little bit and

778
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:35,199
be clear. So in this scenario, we're
saying that we'd provide the gravel

779
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:40,880
this year. you guys would figure out
trucking um and then you and then you

780
01:11:38,719 --> 01:11:47,040
would um
do an additional opt out for 27 to pay

781
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:51,560
us back for the gravel
or we just providing the gravel.

782
01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:56,199
» I don't think that's

783
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:03,120
» I I'm just trying to clear it up. So I
guess state which you're

784
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,080
» that's the case we should just go back
to

785
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:12,040
First
possibility

786
01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:12,040
of borrowing

787
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:15,400
even though

788
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:27,800
you really need that gravel and the
public is entitled to that gravel

789
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:27,800
because in absence they are danger.

790
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:37,600
I think under that circumstance this
needs to be settled. We need to do it

791
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:40,719
today soon. And maybe the fastest way to
accomplish that would be to borrow the

792
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,000
money
>> because the rest of it's going to take

793
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,159
time.
>> We need to know.

794
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,840
» Okay.
>> We need to know.

795
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:52,960
» Can you let Can you levy again?
>> Levy that for next year.

796
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:56,159
» Yeah.
>> We don't know that.

797
01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:08,480
because I I guess I don't know how much
gravel needs we have up there either as

798
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:12,199
a county, but it would short us as well.
>> We need to get that grace

799
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,325
back. [cough]

800
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:31,920
It wouldn't hurt us to
>> Well, that's what I I mean, with us

801
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:36,159
providing the gravel and getting paid,
you said 850, but I'm going to guess

802
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,719
we've got I doubt we have 850 into that
gravel up there.

803
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:44,880
» Uh the price of the actual gravel.
>> Yeah,

804
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:49,800
» you're right. That I'm not sure why we
purchased that. I think we bought that

805
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,800
10 years ago.

806
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:58,760
» What would be the value?
I don't know. What would be the value of

807
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,760
that?

808
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,760
» What it's running right now

809
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,560
cost

810
01:14:16,719 --> 01:14:23,520
» $10,000 worth of gravel at that
>> 850

811
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:26,520
is 10,000. Okay. Right. And then you
guys,

812
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,560
» you're just saying that's not what we
paid for it at that time.

813
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:36,239
» I mean, yeah, that's what it's worth if
we were to go sell it. I know what the

814
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:44,080
quality I know quality is.
you find out if they can do

815
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:50,480
uh the additional way and get it on so
they can have that money next year

816
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:54,880
» and then I think the best because they
could also just they're only getting 25

817
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:58,880
cents per thousand
bridge you could put that

818
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:14,719
50 cents next year.
>> Oh, you did already.

819
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:20,960
» Okay. Last year's number.
>> But if they could do that,

820
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:26,560
then they could
get their travel and and a contractor to

821
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:30,640
haul it.
And they

822
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:35,840
» and is part of the scenario that you
guys would pay us for that gravel when

823
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:39,000
you get your monies next time the value
of that

824
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:51,040
us $10,000.
>> Which one is no see the part the little

825
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:56,800
bit of the trouble that I have is even
if we've got gravel up there

826
01:15:53,440 --> 01:16:03,040
» Yeah. Um,
if we sell the gravel to them,

827
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:05,120
every township's going to be coming in
here and say, "Hey, we won't buy gravel

828
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,560
from the county."
>> Right?

829
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:12,800
» You don't want to open that can of
worms,

830
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:17,600
» but this is a special circumstance.
here. [laughter] But I guarantee you

831
01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:20,159
it'll be in the minutes and people are
watching and they're all sitting there

832
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,960
going, "Well,
>> hey, we why do we worry about where

833
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:30,239
we're going to get gravel? We'll just
buy it from the county." I think the

834
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:36,760
best way we do it is have Doug look in
to see if they can do their their u

835
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,760
» double.

836
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:45,280
They borrow the money. If if they can do
their double, they borrow the money.

837
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:52,800
get their contractor, buy their gravel
from whoever, not us, and we pay the

838
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:57,040
interest on that 13,000
for a year.

839
01:16:54,239 --> 01:17:01,120
» In reality, the interest is the cost the
cost of our mistake as a

840
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:06,560
» that's what we would be saying. We made
we we made a mistake.

841
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:11,040
» We're paying for that if they can get
their money

842
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:17,199
next year to pay that off. And if they
can and if they can't then we have to

843
01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:21,120
revisit everything.
>> That's that's my solving of it right

844
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,120
now.
>> Yes. I think that would be better for

845
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:30,400
everybody.
>> I I agree with

846
01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:35,520
the impression that this was possible.
We didn't know that. [clears throat]

847
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:38,080
» I'm not saying it will happen, but I can
ask.

848
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:42,440
» Well, do you know if you can borrow
money?

849
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,440
borrow money.

850
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:50,913
» And so you'd borrow probably the 13,000.
That's [clears throat]

851
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:57,840
» you'd borrow the 13,000. That's what
you'd probably have as a principal

852
01:17:55,120 --> 01:18:03,040
balance is 13,000. I'm just trying to
get a sense of what the interest would

853
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:06,440
be. You'd borrow $13,000
give or take.

854
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:16,400
Yeah, I'm just it's about 800 bucks a
year. Even if they did have to wait

855
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:21,600
28 and we would eat I mean the cost of
two years and well it'd be like 18

856
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:26,560
months
>> correct.

857
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:30,760
» So I mean I'd be good with that. I mean
that makes if [clears throat] you guys

858
01:18:37,364 --> 01:18:39,384
» [snorts]

859
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,719
» make up for another year.

860
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:52,719
» As long as your citizenry understands
what you're having another one out for,

861
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:57,440
how you're going to resolve that loss.
And like Luke said, it's not a loss

862
01:18:54,640 --> 01:19:00,719
because you never collected the money.
But that was our fault. That was the

863
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:05,040
county's fault. I mean, we we dropped
the ball.

864
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:08,640
We realize that, but this is a tough
situation when you can't just turn it

865
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:13,280
into insurance and say, "Hey, we
>> cover our screw up here." And when they

866
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:16,280
don't appreciate from your side of the
table,

867
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:30,760
» so how do we go about how we go about
doing that? Exactly. The next question

868
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,760
to somehow memorialize

869
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:41,560
I heard about you guys from
your

870
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,560
public speaks

871
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,540
[laughter]

872
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:04,080
in the back in the past.
That won't be an issue.

873
01:20:03,170 --> 01:20:08,560
[clears throat]
>> I mean, I think it'd be good for us to

874
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:11,920
sounds like we have consensus on it to
memorialize in a motion and and say that

875
01:20:10,719 --> 01:20:13,760
we
>> don't.

876
01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:18,520
» Yeah. But then we could just we could do
it here and then that's in their court.

877
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,520
» Okay.

878
01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:23,760
» I'll make that motion.
>> Okay.

879
01:20:22,820 --> 01:20:27,440
[laughter]
>> To pay interest up to two years if they

880
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:33,600
can't get
>> up to two years if they can't get it. If

881
01:20:29,679 --> 01:20:38,400
they can't get in, if they can't get
it put in

882
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:41,520
» and are we saying specifically that's
$13,100

883
01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:45,120
principal
>> is that [snorts] what you want

884
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:49,440
» up to probably
up to 13.

885
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:53,080
» Yeah. Up up up to 13.
>> Yeah. Whatever the optogot

886
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:05,120
» was 131 or 136
>> 131

887
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:10,159
I did remember 136 136 some
>> I said 136 but it was 131

888
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:13,400
» you guys is it 131 or 136
>> it's 136

889
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:21,199
» okay everybody understand the motion
>> so 13 136 136.

890
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:23,040
» Yep. No, it is 13.
>> It is 136.

891
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:27,199
» Okay.
>> Yep. He has it in his minutes.

892
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:31,679
» I will second that motion.
>> Is there discussion?

893
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:35,640
» So, and then we would just reimburse the
township.

894
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,640
» Yep.

895
01:21:36,836 --> 01:21:42,000
[clears throat]
>> Yep.

896
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:45,880
» Okay. Any other discussion
ways?

897
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,880
» Yep.

898
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:52,960
» All in favor?
>> I Think

899
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:57,920
we got a deal, guys.
>> We're sorry that we're not

900
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:02,639
» sorry
it's not a loss.

901
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:08,560
» Sure feels like [laughter]
>> Well, I mean to them it's a loss. How

902
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:11,960
long will it take?
>> Hopefully yesterday

903
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:19,760
we're done here.

904
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:31,960
Thank you.
>> Thanks.

905
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:39,120
» Okay, so the next part of this is how do
we prevent this from happening again?

906
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:43,840
And that's why you see Bailey over my
left shoulder. [laughter]

907
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:47,760
» Right, Bailey? She's not easier for her
to look.

908
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:51,639
» It's her fault.
She's going to fix all our mistakes.

909
01:22:52,000 --> 01:23:03,440
» No, there there was no process in place
for these numbers to be vetted by

910
01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:07,840
anyone. Um, so there will be going in
the future because

911
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:12,159
and and I'm not throwing stones, so
don't let it feel this way, but Sandy

912
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:16,639
did not include Carolyn in anything that
was related to property [snorts] taxes.

913
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:20,960
And so I haven't included her in
anything related to the property taxes.

914
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:25,440
So it's really not right because
ultimately if I get struck by lightning

915
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:29,760
later today, that system would grind to
a halt. So [clears throat]

916
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:35,840
» there's a purpose for a deputy auditor.
>> And there's probably I assume some of

917
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:40,639
these levies and other things are more
complicated than they used to be as

918
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:45,199
well. I mean, it's not as cut and dry.
There are roughly 13,000 cells of data

919
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:49,880
that get filled
>> and over 100,000 data points

920
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:59,440
» and we're not the we don't have the most
townships of all the counties, but we

921
01:23:54,320 --> 01:24:04,080
got a lot. I I assume there's no the
like [clears throat] the timing doesn't

922
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:08,560
work out that we can have the township
sign off on like we enter all the levies

923
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,520
and then we send it out and say here's
your levy, you know, sign off.

924
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:15,199
» Some townships are really good with
communication and some are really

925
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:18,199
» Yeah. And it probably be practically
impossible.

926
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:23,199
» Anyway,
>> I thought of that too

927
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:28,960
» as them being final sign off. So
>> you could Yeah. Yeah.

928
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:32,000
But maybe make them more accountable, I
guess, whether they would be,

929
01:24:31,723 --> 01:24:36,159
[snorts]
>> not that they weren't, but I mean like

930
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:40,639
in some of those maybe require them to
be more on top of it as well. You

931
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:45,080
required them to sign something after
the fact. I like your line of thinking.

932
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:57,320
I only had about half.
>> Yeah.

933
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:06,880
» Yeah, I know. That's so crazy. But it is
because where when do you punch those in

934
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:12,080
or what's the
>> I start proof reading through their

935
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:16,239
minutes like right now. Um, the thing
that really screwed up this year was

936
01:25:14,639 --> 01:25:20,480
that
runoff election because otherwise I

937
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,480
would start looking at them in J in
July.

938
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:31,760
» They do.
>> Yes.

939
01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:36,639
» Okay. So, our next item here,
>> budget analysis.

940
01:25:32,639 --> 01:25:40,800
» Budget analysis. This is
looks scary, but it's not as scary as it

941
01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:46,480
looks.
Okay, so the following budgets

942
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:51,520
are 70%
or above in having been expended. So

943
01:25:50,239 --> 01:25:56,400
I'll just run through these. The
election, that's because of the runoff

944
01:25:54,000 --> 01:26:00,239
election we had. It was cheaper than a
normal election, but it's still sucked

945
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:04,320
into the plan of having only two
elections. So we will probably be

946
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:08,639
looking
>> what was about the approximate cost of

947
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:12,120
that run.
Oh, approximately

948
01:26:12,719 --> 01:26:15,719
12,000.

949
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,280
» And I just have to keep telling myself
that if we still had 12 precincts, it

950
01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:25,960
would have been twice that.
>> Yeah.

951
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,960
» Um,

952
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:32,639
this general election, we'll use the
tabulators again. So, we have all that

953
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:37,600
expense with the SNS that we didn't have
with the runoff as well as ballot

954
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:42,719
production.
Um in the judicial budget, that's the

955
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:46,880
one that we pay for grand juries,
regular juries.

956
01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:54,040
Um the expenses associated with that,
that's at 79.8%.

957
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:54,040
» Is the judicial and the court attorney.

958
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:09,360
» Some of it is, some of it is not. So
like the judicial one, we paid for some

959
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:15,080
a hard drive to be examined for child
pornography and that alone was 6,000

960
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,080
bucks.

961
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:22,400
So nobody could see that on the horizon
until after it happens. And then the

962
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:25,400
court appointed attorney
um

963
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:33,600
not picking on attorneys
because you're not one anymore.

964
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:38,880
» [clears throat]
>> It depends on how long they want to drag

965
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:43,600
it out those fees. So they can do an
initial appearance, an arraignment, drag

966
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:49,120
it to a prelim. Well, we don't do
prelims, but motions, hearings. I mean,

967
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:52,920
sometimes you see these cases go on for
months and months and months

968
01:27:53,280 --> 01:28:00,480
» to defense attorney's hearings. Yes,
of course. And [clears throat] then if

969
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:05,199
they really want to, they can appeal to
the Supreme Court.

970
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:12,080
So yes,
and once the judge signs the order, we

971
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:16,320
don't have a choice. It's done. Um
my budget is up and so is Jaime's. And

972
01:28:14,639 --> 01:28:20,960
that's because you allowed us to hire
part-time employee and so we'll be

973
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:27,040
coming back probably next month to ask
for some cash to cover that. The IT

974
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:31,440
budget is up. Um, there's a number of
reasons for that.

975
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:35,600
We're not paying for some of the
services from two trees out of

976
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:40,719
individual budgets. Paying for it out of
this one. So, I expected this to happen.

977
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:45,600
Um,
but we'll probably get some more mental

978
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:51,520
health. This one is up because we have a
long-term customer which we haven't had

979
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:55,120
since I've been doing this. I think
we're on month seven roughly. Is it the

980
01:28:54,480 --> 01:29:01,280
state hospital?
>> It is. Yep.

981
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:05,440
And so they do a hearing
90 days I believe right now is the

982
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:10,239
status hearings and then we have the
treatment that goes on in between.

983
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:15,000
» What was the total budget number that
we're at 76 and a half% of

984
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:21,239
» scroll scroll scroll
>> on which one?

985
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:36,639
I mean my question is is it something
that we grossly

986
01:29:33,681 --> 01:29:40,239
[clears throat] uh underestimate for
just because it never happens and now

987
01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:46,880
that it happens. I guess
>> we purposely brought this budget down

988
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:53,040
when we were looking at ways to um
refine our spending and so we brought

989
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:57,760
this and the other ones down too like
judicial and elections. We brought those

990
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:03,480
down so that we
>> $200.

991
01:29:59,679 --> 01:30:03,480
» The original budget

992
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:10,719
» was 1675
but we added 2,300. So it started out at

993
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:18,719
I was just wondering it's one of those
things that we just kind of weeded out

994
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:23,520
all of a sudden.
Yep. So like this this one here, this is

995
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:30,960
community counseling and this is that
assessment that we assess applies to us

996
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:35,520
regional
can't remember what they call it center.

997
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:38,527
Um
they're coming to the October meeting to

998
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:42,639
talk about what services they
[clears throat] offer for that money.

999
01:30:39,679 --> 01:30:49,520
» This shows we spent 12,023
12,024 and then 17 and 25

1000
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:55,080
up to whatever we are now. We have
15,600 for 27.

1001
01:30:57,440 --> 01:31:08,480
» So we'll be talking about that in the
future. Um, by way of emergency

1002
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:14,960
management, Arlin is not back, right?
>> So, he's still down in Buffalo County.

1003
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:19,600
They're formalizing their 911
merger with Winter.

1004
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:24,560
Um,
we did that hazard mitigation plan as

1005
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:27,760
the county did it for us. Then they
apply for the grant and we're supposed

1006
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:31,360
to get the grant money back, which
hasn't arrived yet. But when it does,

1007
01:31:29,679 --> 01:31:36,719
I'd like permission to do that as an
auto supplement. It doesn't require the

1008
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:42,679
hearings because
of the nature of the grant and the

1009
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,679
unexpected revenue.

1010
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:48,880
» What would that
What would the amount be that we're

1011
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,600
expecting?
>> 125.

1012
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:55,600
» 125.
>> That's to supplement the

1013
01:31:54,239 --> 01:31:59,920
» Yep. Because we wrote the check, but
we're waiting to get paid back. So

1014
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,920
moved.
>> Second.

1015
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:14,000
» We move to approve. Oh, we move to
approve the auto supplement [laughter]

1016
01:32:11,679 --> 01:32:18,719
of the grant funds into the emergency
management fund.

1017
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:23,280
» And Jim second
Jim.

1018
01:32:20,480 --> 01:32:26,600
» I thought you were having a stroke there
for a minute.

1019
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:34,120
Yeah, he's dead. You know,
>> at least you weren't snoring.

1020
01:32:34,639 --> 01:32:41,440
» That would have been funny though.
>> Sleep on the job is one thing, Jim. We

1021
01:32:39,440 --> 01:32:44,639
will not allow snoring.
>> Okay.

1022
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:47,360
» On the job. [laughter]
>> How many of you remember seeing this in

1023
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:53,040
your email?
>> I remember. I didn't fully understand

1024
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:57,199
it, but I still haven't saved. I got
four out of 22 responses. Well, I got a

1025
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,679
couple after this came out.
>> I didn't even know I was supposed to

1026
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:03,679
respond to it. [laughter]
>> It's not so much the contents. Well, it

1027
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:08,880
is part the contents of the checklist,
but it was also to kind of gauge the

1028
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:18,920
response to sending out the checklist to
determine how much more effort I need to

1029
01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:18,920
put into educating and recruiting. Um,

1030
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:30,960
so [snorts] the conclusion is is that
I need a better way to recruit

1031
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:36,520
participation.
I'm thinking chocolate bars would be a

1032
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,520
good way to go.

1033
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:41,360
» Well, not for everybody. Would you take
one and pass those down?

1034
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:47,960
So this is just a little activity for
you.

1035
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,800
» Jan, you get to participate.

1036
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:59,480
This email came in or I pulled this
email from my inbox today

1037
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:07,280
and you tell me
what you see for red flags.

1038
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:11,800
» The email address.
>> Okay. What about the email address?

1039
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:20,960
» It's not Jim Jones's, right?
>> Right.

1040
01:34:19,265 --> 01:34:24,440
[clears throat]
>> You got it, too.

1041
01:34:24,719 --> 01:34:30,000
» Okay. Anything else?
>> This is actual email that you

1042
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:33,600
» I got it. Jim says she got it. Anybody
else?

1043
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:38,719
» Jim Jones.
>> The discreet conversation. We need

1044
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:41,719
» No, I get that one from Dan a lot. Okay.
>> Sorry.

1045
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,830
» That's not work related. [clears throat]

1046
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:54,560
» You never respond.
>> Plus, it's just like it's just verbage

1047
01:34:50,159 --> 01:34:57,560
that you wouldn't like just
request.

1048
01:34:59,220 --> 01:35:03,040
» [laughter]
>> Okay,

1049
01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:07,360
» this is not good though.
>> Most of the time it's a lure for me to

1050
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:11,920
engage in that conversation with you.
Then you start asking probably more

1051
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:15,440
questions and you'll probably get to the
point where you're like, "Oh, I want to

1052
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:20,040
change my direct deposit."
So, the second one I gave you, which

1053
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:27,280
» did you get one?
No,

1054
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:32,239
» just recently.
>> So,

1055
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:36,480
this one from Edwin.
So, the thing to know is where are they

1056
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:40,800
getting this information
that they know that you're the

1057
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:43,040
commissioner that Edwin works here as an
employee?

1058
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:48,159
» Our website.
>> They're getting it off our website.

1059
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:52,239
» Right. Public records. Yeah. One of the
downsides of public records, [snorts]

1060
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:56,400
um,
they sent it to my general mailbox,

1061
01:35:54,639 --> 01:36:02,560
which has only been in existence for
about six weeks. So, whoever

1062
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:06,159
orchestrated this just very recently
looked at this to know that that was the

1063
01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:11,120
address that we put out to the public on
our website. So, it allows me to see

1064
01:36:08,719 --> 01:36:16,320
those garbage emails [clears throat]
quicker than if they come to my regular

1065
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:20,800
personalized email. a general auditor.
>> That's my forward facing email address.

1066
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:23,800
» It does say GPN.
>> Yep.

1067
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:30,800
» So, this one you'll see I need to change
my direct deposit information before

1068
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:35,840
payroll is processed. What details do
you need?

1069
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:40,880
So, if you're thinking about that, let's
say that I skip over the fact that that

1070
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:45,159
email is garbage up there.
Govr number number numbergmail.com.

1071
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:51,239
What else would be a clue as to why this
is bogus?

1072
01:36:52,239 --> 01:36:58,800
» Are there email direct? We don't have
>> We do.

1073
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:03,600
» Oh, yeah. That's right.
>> We do, but you can't change it with an

1074
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:07,199
email address.
So

1075
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:10,800
all of our employees know that there's a
form that has to be filled out and then

1076
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:15,840
we have to validate it against their
bank information. So this one comes a

1077
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:21,040
lot. We used to get a bunch of these
from Jeff Hargins or his other

1078
01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:24,880
personalities
asking for a change in direct deposit.

1079
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:32,000
The other one on Jim Jones is that it
wanted an immediate a quick response.

1080
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:35,920
And so a lot of people who receive these
see that, oh god, he needs to talk to me

1081
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:38,320
right away. So then they reply back
without looking it over.

1082
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:43,760
» So I mean,
>> wouldn't you say that you could we could

1083
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:47,280
weed out almost 100% of these by just
looking at the email address?

1084
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:50,159
» I do.
>> I mean, that would just be my first

1085
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:53,440
That's always my first thing is because
sometimes it doesn't list it out. You

1086
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:56,400
have to click on the name like it'll
just say Edwin. You have to click on the

1087
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:59,280
name to get
>> Yep. or hover

1088
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,880
» or hover over it or whatever.
>> I would think that would

1089
01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:05,119
» Exactly. Right.
>> Unless somebody gets their email hacked,

1090
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:09,360
I guess the only way that they
>> So like our our new emails have this

1091
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:13,679
thing at the top that you don't receive
emails from this person very often, but

1092
01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:20,880
quite honestly, all of our emails
>> have that on there. So, you know, you

1093
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:26,000
pretty much just brush past that.
>> Yes.

1094
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:30,480
So there's this website called Nok
and they currently have it so that the

1095
01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:36,880
company can get a free fishing
simulation that sends out 100 emails

1096
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:41,119
where you have access to that. And what
that does is it sends out you put in

1097
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:48,000
everybody that's within our company's
email address and then it you can create

1098
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:53,679
your own fishing email or you can say
okay we're a government agency

1099
01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:58,800
and choose kind of different things that
would apply to the people that work here

1100
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:06,000
and then it will send out that email
whenever you're on a schedule and then

1101
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:10,239
you will then learn as the IT person
who's clicking on these emails. And then

1102
01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:16,000
you could then have a meeting with
everybody and say, "Okay, I sent out

1103
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:22,480
this test email or this fishing email on
October 1st and I sent it to 50

1104
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:27,360
employees and of those 50 employees, two
people clicked on it." Okay. Then you'll

1105
01:39:25,119 --> 01:39:31,360
go then you can go over the email with
everybody in attendance. You know what

1106
01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:36,320
I'm saying? And that instead of not
saying what you did was bad, you know,

1107
01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:44,639
sending us emails saying how is this,
you know, I think that if you build kind

1108
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:49,360
of the what's the word I'm looking for
the educational tools

1109
01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:54,400
for, you know, and then meet with
everybody and say, "Okay, I did this.

1110
01:39:51,920 --> 01:40:00,880
Now, let's go over it and why we
shouldn't click on these

1111
01:39:56,480 --> 01:40:05,109
» in in person if
>> so.

1112
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:07,129
» So, so the so
[laughter]

1113
01:40:10,719 --> 01:40:15,239
» she answered it right away like
lightning.

1114
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,679
So yes,

1115
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:27,199
as far as human resources goes,
this is getting to be a little

1116
01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:31,840
complicated
with all of the issues going on with

1117
01:40:30,159 --> 01:40:36,480
immigration.
We do the I-9 process where everybody

1118
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:41,280
has to come in, provide us proof that
they're a citizen.

1119
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:46,679
Now, they're auditing those things. And
so what that means is if we're selected

1120
01:40:43,199 --> 01:40:46,679
for an audit,

1121
01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:56,199
» youthful exuberance delivering
athletics.

1122
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:04,400
Somebody from
the government is going to come in and

1123
01:41:02,719 --> 01:41:08,800
go through all of our personnel records
to make sure that we're in compliance

1124
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:16,000
with the I9 stuff. That in and of itself
is not that bad because since five years

1125
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:20,080
ago, I mean, we're really good about
getting our I9 stuff. It's the stuff

1126
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:24,000
from before. So, [snorts] I'll be going
through all the personnel files and I

1127
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:28,560
might be talking to you and going, "Hey,
I need an I9 form." even though you've

1128
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:31,920
been here more than five years just
because

1129
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:36,000
if you get audited and they find
mistakes

1130
01:41:34,159 --> 01:41:42,480
they can charge you and they can find
you and there have been people charged

1131
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:47,600
and there have agencies spined.
The other part of it is

1132
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:57,159
that
we have a commitment

1133
01:41:52,480 --> 01:41:57,159
through federal grant receipts

1134
01:41:57,199 --> 01:42:03,280
about the Equal Opportunity Employment
Act.

1135
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:08,080
Show hands. Who's familiar with that?
EEOC,

1136
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:14,000
Equal Opportunity Employment Commission.
Used to be. there. So, this says that

1137
01:42:11,679 --> 01:42:17,280
you can't discriminate against somebody
in your hiring practices. And this

1138
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:22,639
little worksheet here came from a law
firm. And

1139
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:26,719
so, I downloaded it and it's it's pretty
good. It matches a lot of the other

1140
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:30,960
ones, but it's a pretty good tool. And
so I wanted to present this to you so

1141
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:34,719
that you could keep this in the back of
your heads that if you're in a position

1142
01:42:33,199 --> 01:42:38,560
where you hire because some of us
department heads, we do all this for

1143
01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:42,880
you, but there might be times that you
guys do it. Um

1144
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:46,800
to make sure that you browse through
these

1145
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:51,840
and to do look for one of these
regularly because they change. It's just

1146
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:56,119
like any legislative body, any rule
making body, they're going to change

1147
01:42:56,159 --> 01:43:05,891
um things based on what's the hot topic
of the day.

1148
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:09,840
It also is there to protect
[clears throat] not just the people who

1149
01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:13,840
are discriminated against, but the ones
who suffer because you reverse the

1150
01:43:12,239 --> 01:43:18,320
discrimination.
So, for example,

1151
01:43:16,159 --> 01:43:23,600
let's say that
we weren't the most undiversified county

1152
01:43:20,639 --> 01:43:28,800
in the United States and there was a big
push to hire X number of minorities.

1153
01:43:27,119 --> 01:43:33,320
Well, then you're discriminating against
all the eligible non

1154
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:39,760
minority people when you hire that one
just solely because you're going to meet

1155
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:44,639
this number.
So, we don't have a lot of that here,

1156
01:43:41,440 --> 01:43:50,639
but you never know.
Um, South Dakota itself

1157
01:43:48,719 --> 01:43:54,960
through the Department of Labor has the
Division of Human Rights

1158
01:43:53,280 --> 01:44:00,080
and
these people

1159
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:04,960
will receive your complaints if you
think somebody is violating the Equal

1160
01:44:02,719 --> 01:44:09,280
Opportunity Employment Act. Now, you'll
see that they have some exclusions which

1161
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:14,080
I found kind of interesting.
Um, this is the state human rights

1162
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:19,520
division does not receive complaints
about federal employees. That makes

1163
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:23,280
sense. Police or sheriff misconduct,
judicial or court matters,

1164
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:27,760
characteristics such as personnel
appearance, political affiliation, lack

1165
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:31,360
of education and training, short-term
disability or personal personality

1166
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:36,320
conflicts.
So, I thought it was interesting that

1167
01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:40,239
they exclude courts and law enforcement.
I'd be curious to know why.

1168
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:53,320
Okay. So, South Dakota, like that law
firm,

1169
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,320
offers [clears throat] these

1170
01:44:53,520 --> 01:45:00,679
quick little overviews.
And this one here

1171
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:08,080
will give you any state you want. So if
you're on the job market outlook talks

1172
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:13,360
about what an at will employee is
discrimination against employees for

1173
01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:19,639
their offduty use of tobacco immigration
verification drug testing which is one

1174
01:45:15,679 --> 01:45:19,639
that our drug testing

1175
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:29,679
what they call it drug-free work
something policy

1176
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:34,480
we haven't touched that in 15 years
probably

1177
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:40,239
discrimination for retaliation due to
jury duty. Didn't know that was a thing.

1178
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:48,000
Uh two hours of voting leave. It's
required by statute. You can't tell them

1179
01:45:43,679 --> 01:45:52,800
no. Um other leave, meal breaks, minimum
wage. So, there's a lot of resources out

1180
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:58,560
there and I'll be honest with you,
there's so much I can't keep track of it

1181
01:45:55,280 --> 01:46:06,480
all. So, when I see these little
worksheets, I I get them. But

1182
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:11,600
it's becoming a huge thing. And when you
consider that we only average 52

1183
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:16,119
paychecks a month.
Oops. That's the same thing.

1184
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:24,320
It shouldn't be that complicated, but
it's getting there.

1185
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:28,960
Okay. So, this particular one talks
about

1186
01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:33,840
when you're hiring, and this is from the
state of South Dakota when they do their

1187
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:39,199
hiring. And so, we'll probably integrate
this somehow into ours because it will

1188
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:42,800
probably keep us from getting in trouble
doing something silly when we're hiring

1189
01:46:41,119 --> 01:46:49,480
somebody.
So for example,

1190
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:49,480
you hire someone today

1191
01:46:49,679 --> 01:46:56,480
and you just have to take for granted
that [clears throat] everything that you

1192
01:46:52,320 --> 01:47:02,719
were told is on the up and up, right?
What do you do if it's not? So not going

1193
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:07,040
to say names, but one of the department
heads had an employee that presented

1194
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:10,880
themselves in one way and then after
getting to work discovered that that

1195
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:16,320
employee was something else. And now
that employee is gone, that's a tough

1196
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:20,639
position for a department head to be in
because you want to believe that your

1197
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:24,400
applicants are telling the truth. You
want to believe that they are everything

1198
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:31,360
they say they are.
And then we go through this process of

1199
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:35,040
onboarding them only to find out
after a short amount of time that was

1200
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:39,239
all wasted effort
because they lied. So,

1201
01:47:39,440 --> 01:47:49,440
where'd I go? There I am.
So, what I do in part

1202
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:54,000
is I have a page that's devoted to
employment, which talks about how to get

1203
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:58,560
the applications, put the job
announcements.

1204
01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:03,600
Some of the job announcements that we
have that have been put out haven't made

1205
01:48:01,119 --> 01:48:09,920
it to this web page. We would get dinged
for that because when you're providing

1206
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:14,719
public notice of job openings but you're
only putting it in certain places that's

1207
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:20,080
not an equal opportunity.
It is not distributed everywhere. So we

1208
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:26,719
need to be very very careful that when
you start putting out applications that

1209
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:29,920
it is posted in all the right places.
So it's not sufficient just to have it

1210
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:37,119
in the
>> No, not since we have a a website.

1211
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:42,159
» So have to advertise.
>> Those are our two main places.

1212
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:47,600
» Our website official newspaper.
>> Yep. But generally we also use Facebook,

1213
01:48:44,639 --> 01:48:52,840
but that isn't required. That's just an
alternative

1214
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:52,840
way to do it.

1215
01:48:54,159 --> 01:49:01,520
Okay. So, as far as HR goes,
at some point in the future, you're

1216
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:06,159
going to have to look at hiring a
professional

1217
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:09,920
either as a consultant
or on a shared basis with another

1218
01:49:08,159 --> 01:49:13,679
county.
Um,

1219
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:18,719
we've talked about this before, I know,
for sure. Uh what

1220
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:23,119
what
are there some counties nearby that have

1221
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:28,639
a shared
have an HR person that is maybe

1222
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:34,000
underutilized in your
>> underutilized? No. overutilized

1223
01:49:32,159 --> 01:49:37,360
» somebody share with somebody you can
share with though that maybe

1224
01:49:36,930 --> 01:49:41,679
[snorts]
>> most of the time like Bele County they

1225
01:49:39,679 --> 01:49:45,760
have one but that person's also assigned
other things because they know that

1226
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:50,520
they're not going to be spending a full
40 hours on HR

1227
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:50,520
» Buffalo

1228
01:49:52,639 --> 01:49:58,159
» I'm glad you said that
>> the three of us

1229
01:49:55,760 --> 01:50:02,080
» I could pitch that county too
>> yeah

1230
01:49:59,679 --> 01:50:05,440
But, you know, to to me it's just a
crappy deal because if we were to hire a

1231
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:11,199
firm, we're going to pay them between
$60 and $120 an hour for consulting

1232
01:50:10,336 --> 01:50:18,040
[laughter]
for those of us that make between 20 and

1233
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:18,040
$25 an hour

1234
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:30,080
» of the ones that you mentioned.
>> Yeah, probably right at 100.

1235
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:34,800
average for
>> I do not know.

1236
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:37,840
» I bet it's less than Well, on average
around here, it's less than

1237
01:50:36,159 --> 01:50:43,199
» I can tell you I can tell you with
almost absolute certainty if you're

1238
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:49,440
getting any federal funds, any whether
it's bridge funds,

1239
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:53,679
anything, emergency management funds,
we're on the radar for the federal

1240
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:57,440
inspections.
And I'm guessing they're probably going

1241
01:50:55,520 --> 01:51:05,440
to look at smaller agencies because
they're easier to audit than going to a

1242
01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:10,480
place like Minneapolis, even Sou Falls.
>> Example of us.

1243
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:13,480
» Yeah. Low hanging fruit.
>> Yep.

1244
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:19,679
But I I'll check with those other
counties and see what they think about

1245
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:24,639
that. It's a good idea. All right. Let's
talk about money.

1246
01:51:22,239 --> 01:51:30,320
These reports are only as valid as they
were last Friday, right? Friday morning.

1247
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:35,800
Um, we've been looking at this
comparison report of expenses to

1248
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,800
revenues.

1249
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:46,800
And so we scroll down here to look at
the offset. So excess rubbed revenue

1250
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:52,639
compared to expenditures. So for the
month of August before bills were

1251
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,639
posted, we were doing pretty good.

1252
01:51:53,679 --> 01:51:59,840
And then the highway department look at
the same thing and they're looking even

1253
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:06,320
better.
Why is that? They got more money than we

1254
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:09,760
did received more money. Okay. Um but
like she said, they're buying road oil.

1255
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:16,040
So that's going to bring that number
down pretty darn quickly because those

1256
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:16,040
are what 100,000 a ticket.

1257
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:23,960
Um, as far as the fund balance report,

1258
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:32,480
I highlighted the numbers for you.
Emergency management, you can see, is

1259
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:36,320
$4,600 in the hole. There's two reasons
for that. We're waiting to receive money

1260
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:41,360
back for money that was expended, and
we're waiting for money to come from uh

1261
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:47,599
Buffalo County for their contributions
towards the program. And then I ran into

1262
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:53,520
a snag with transferring the money for
the pickup. So, initially I did it

1263
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:58,239
wrong. Discovered the error right away.
I got to get some input from some others

1264
01:52:56,159 --> 01:53:03,360
on how to fix it so that I don't make it
worse instead of better.

1265
01:53:01,599 --> 01:53:08,960
Otherwise, financially, we're sitting
pretty good for this time of year.

1266
01:53:07,119 --> 01:53:12,480
The next item I have is the minutes for
two meetings. August 3rd was the

1267
01:53:10,480 --> 01:53:16,480
canvasing of elections which was a one
page and August 4th was the regular

1268
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:21,320
meeting. I would ask that you approve
those if you feel so inclined.

1269
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:31,239
» So
for the first one

1270
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:31,239
» you can do them in both

1271
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:39,159
discussion. All in favor? I

1272
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:46,480
» And I'll just show you this quick. This
is the report of property taxes

1273
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:53,480
received. So, the county got $45,000 in
property tax revenues in August. This is

1274
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,480
one of the lean months.

1275
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:58,800
So,
you got the building permits there, the

1276
01:53:57,119 --> 01:54:03,280
financial reports from the registered
deeds, library board minutes are on

1277
01:54:00,639 --> 01:54:07,719
their website, then the payroll ledger.
Any questions on any of those things?

1278
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:14,320
The consent agenda includes the payment
of the bills.

1279
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:19,679
We have a beverage license renewal from
the Eagle Pass Lodge and that's a

1280
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:25,199
preserve license
and I have that stuff in the Fuller for

1281
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:28,320
Jim there.
It's very ministerial [clears throat] in

1282
01:54:26,639 --> 01:54:33,040
its
needs. Um there was a request for a

1283
01:54:31,679 --> 01:54:38,159
lottery
which I had to do some research on this

1284
01:54:34,719 --> 01:54:43,920
because I've never done this. So, the
Miller Thriller wanted to do a Calcetta,

1285
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:50,320
which in the eyes of somebody is a
lottery. And so, I found a form online,

1286
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:54,880
made it ours, we signed it, I approved
it. It just needs to be ratified when

1287
01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:58,000
you do the consent agenda.
And quite honestly, I don't know that I

1288
01:54:56,480 --> 01:55:03,040
would ever advocate to do that again
because it seems kind of pointless to

1289
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:08,480
me, but I don't write those laws.
There is a project request from the LAPC

1290
01:55:05,599 --> 01:55:14,639
in here. This project is to purchase
some more stuff related to the drone. It

1291
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:19,119
includes a spotlight that goes on the
drone as well as a loudspeaker. Um

1292
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:24,159
during the LAPC meeting, it was
discussed this would help if they were

1293
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:29,440
doing search and rescue efforts with it
because you could call out to somebody

1294
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:36,000
and actually hear them if they reply and
to use the light. um from above. So,

1295
01:55:33,199 --> 01:55:41,280
basically like a little mini helicopter.
And then also

1296
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:46,159
to get
it's a uh portable battery pack. It's

1297
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:51,360
about the size of a small suitcase and
it contains uh lead acid batteries that

1298
01:55:49,119 --> 01:55:58,159
you can pull 110. If you get a big one,
you get 220 current off of it. Uh USB

1299
01:55:54,639 --> 01:56:04,639
cigarette plugs and that is to be used
to charge those electronic devices.

1300
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:09,119
when it's away from like a vehicle or
commercial power.

1301
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:14,560
And the third item is the wiring
associated with those to be used on a

1302
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:20,960
vehicle. The project itself, all of that
that I just mentioned is $2,747.

1303
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:23,960
It would come from funds in the LAPC
fund.

1304
01:56:24,239 --> 01:56:30,080
» Uh it's on here
>> 13,000.

1305
01:56:28,159 --> 01:56:35,679
» Yep.
They approved it looks like. So,

1306
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:41,040
» yep, the LAPC did approve it.
>> So, again, these are dedicated funds for

1307
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:44,040
the purpose of LAPC. They're not general
fungi.

1308
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:55,239
I
>> I

1309
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:55,239
» Did you second?

1310
01:56:56,239 --> 01:57:04,960
And the last item there was the renewal
of the subreient agreement.

1311
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:08,320
Okay. The last item I have on here is an
executive session. But before we do

1312
01:57:06,719 --> 01:57:13,199
that, is there anybody here to talk
about the budget?

1313
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:18,400
» No.
>> So that takes us back to page one in the

1314
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:24,480
resolution or not the resolution but the
adoption of the provisional budget.

1315
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:27,480
» I'll make a motion. Is there a second?
Second.

1316
01:57:29,119 --> 01:57:33,440
» No.
>> No. [clears throat]

1317
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:37,920
» I
>> Okay. Do you want to meet on the 15th of

1318
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:41,239
September to do a quick ratification of
that resolution?

1319
01:57:48,719 --> 01:57:53,159
» I got a pinch hitter.
>> Okay.

1320
01:57:54,719 --> 01:57:59,376
I'm not locked on that date. I mean,
[clears throat]

1321
01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:06,080
» I needed something to put in the legal
notes. So, I threw a dart at the

1322
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:10,040
calendar and that's where it landed.
>> I can make that day organized.

1323
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:16,280
» It would be literally just approving

1324
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:25,400
» one time.
>> Whatever you pick. Say it again, Greg.

1325
01:58:20,719 --> 01:58:25,400
» The 50. You said right. Yep.

1326
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:33,440
» 5 o'clock.
>> I won't be here.

1327
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:38,800
» She won't be here. I have supper with
myself. I can't cancel. [laughter]

1328
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:42,239
» I mean, you can call in too, I guess.
But you guys that live ways because it

1329
01:58:40,719 --> 01:58:48,119
doesn't make to me it doesn't make sense
to drive here for

1330
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:48,119
» unless there's

1331
01:58:48,639 --> 01:58:53,440
» or do you want it after five?
>> It doesn't matter. live.

1332
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:56,639
» If [clears throat] I participate, I'm
going to call in, too.

1333
01:58:54,639 --> 01:58:59,960
» Okay.
>> 5:00 p.m.

1334
01:59:01,119 --> 01:59:11,159
» Okay.
>> So, who's setting it up? Bailey is

1335
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:11,159
» I'll set it up with her assistance.

1336
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:20,080
» Okay.
>> Yes. Did you want to add a topic?

1337
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:22,480
» No.
>> Okay.

1338
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:36,520
Second.

1339
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:43,159
» How long is the break? 10 15

1340
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:48,040
» 255

1341
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:53,480
to three or five

1342
01:59:55,599 --> 02:00:00,040
shut off if you would.

1343
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:10,960
» Yeah.

1344
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:17,583
Oh boy.
[snorts]