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Staff, the staff, and they still send stuff to Mike Arnold once a while. The state's not very organized. So is this a monthly bill now? It's an annual payment. So it's 22,000 a year.

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Well, that's a show up, yeah, he's over at Tatiana on his meeting, he said where's

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Tatiana on the meet?

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Town Hall.

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Okay.

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Down that way.

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Down that way.

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So Brent, Dem, Ray, thank

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you for coming,

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and then I'll be here and Wendy, okay,

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the

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to breathe, look at last month's meetings.

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I read through the meetings minutes.

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It looked right.

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I propose we accept them.

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OK.

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I'll second out the motion.

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So then we've got the operators update later,

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but Brent and Job, Description, and Flocharts.

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Should we get jumping to that?

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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If you need to send this.

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Thank you.

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So what I thought we'd do is, I mean, you guys

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were talking about the elections and I thought,

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We've been talking about just, every,

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I used to board member was assigned to a specific thing,

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then we don't have to all do everything.

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So I gave you, did you get that right there, right?

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I made a kind of a flowchar,

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and then Wendy sent me the operator,

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job description, and the clerk's duties.

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And then I was just trying to say,

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now I just did this on a new program

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that's sort of been easier, and I'm just not that smart.

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That was hard to do, because I went in there

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And it's like, yeah, just use this. It's really easy, although no boxes are the wrong size.

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It's not as pretty as it could be.

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Yeah, but anyway.

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But so this is a rough draft and I want to, I'm listening to everybody's ideas.

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And I would think it would be better to have DAX here to talk about

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separation of duties between clerk and the operator.

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The clerk's on a salary and the operator's hourly.

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So, you wouldn't want to take on more money than you have to.

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So, if there's certain things that we want the operator to do, and then, again, as a general,

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I'm thinking, don't think of this as the chairman of the board.

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I've never put any names in there on purpose.

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I'm just saying this ought to be the general thing.

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Not Wendy, but any clerk.

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Not DAX, but any operator, and then not any of our names.

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Just any board member.

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So, when the new board member comes in, we can have something.

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Because when I first started, I go, we're all in charge of everything and yet none of us did anything.

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And we've come and it's like, they would say, okay, Wendy had gone to this one meeting and then branded on all this stuff and not one board member knew what they were going to.

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No board member attended any meetings, no board member even knew what, you know, what submissions we're doing, what funding we could do.

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So, these are my ideas, like one board member can be the Secretary Treasurer, and they

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ought to be in charge of maybe financial reports, perhaps going over and signing checks.

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We have two signatures now, so it has been Chairman of the Board and Secretary Treasurer,

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but it doesn't have to be Chairman.

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We just needed two people to sign.

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You were nervous to put in your social security number there, and nobody else would do it,

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so you did it.

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So, that's why, but it doesn't need to be Larry, probably could be somebody else.

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And at the time we had Cecil, and you're related, and then, you know, you'd had me read

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those, you know, look at the videos and sit and try not to do neptism.

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I'm thinking, you know, you've had probably more board experience than most of us, maybe

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not in Larry, but everybody else.

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So you can help us, this is a guideline.

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This isn't the way I think it should be.

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This is the way to start talking about it.

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So I'm thinking, as a flow, the chairman of the board in the past has really been organized

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meetings and do the meetings, chairman doesn't even vote, but he's the tiebreaker. So if

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everybody votes and it happens to be a tie, then the chairman votes.

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So I will correct one thing. It's actually five, including the chairman.

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Okay. David, can we have as many as we want, right? Five to seven.

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So we can, but we have to file stuff to be able to, that's one of the things we were talking

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about last month.

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How many do you want?

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Right. Right now we have five to show. That's what we're supposed to have.

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If we want to increase then we have to we don't even have file for that. Right. That's what I mean. So I'd just go five down because I thought that would be ideal. That's what's on our paper work right now. It's fine with the county.

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We have five.

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We're allowed five.

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Five voting board members.

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No, five, including the chairperson.

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Oh, so born one cross one out and put rules and procedures under government liaison or funding, you know.

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So if we can have four, that's fine, I don't know.

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I just want to make, that's what the, I found out.

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All right, county.

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Well, I wouldn't cross that out because it seems like if we can get a good solid board to have five,

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then you guys are always breaking the tie.

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I mean, if you have five, it can't be, you know.

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So we can't have more than five without presenting it and applying for what the county presented to the county.

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Is it going to decide this?

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I know it's how they did the original paperwork.

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We're allowed more, but we said we'd have five,

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so if we want more, we have to file something.

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The lady didn't know a whole lot about how to do it,

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but right now, we're allowed.

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And you would never get a look into that, right?

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The voting thing and the requirements.

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Did you look into it?

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What's your thoughts?

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Should we keep it with just five enough?

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Do you want to have six?

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I think.

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What's your library board do?

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We have five plus our clear five to set.

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Without that, not a lot bigger, right?

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Well, and it's all the douching.

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Welcome, right.

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So we have people from Vernal.

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Let's see.

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I'm not Vernal.

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Roosevelt.

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How's Vermont?

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Douching.

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Oh, we do Jenny.

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Jenny's from Douching right now.

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And then me.

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So one, two, three, four.

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I think we just have five, two, two, five.

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Well, we can keep it for five.

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Right now we have five.

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One, two, three, four, and then Timmy.

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We may need to replace Timmy.

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Well, he has to be replaced because he's not living here.

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So he'll have to be replaced.

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God, we also found out some other stuff.

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Do you want to bring that up before we get any deeper?

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I, sadly, yes.

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So Wendy looks into a bunch of stuff

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as we were going through things, and so there's qualifications for board members that there has been stipulations on that we haven't, there's been some kind of gray area, because I've been going on word of mouth rather than digging into it.

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So when I went down and met with the county, she told me the stipulations, and it's all based on Utah code, and I kind of brought this up a little bit last month.

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But right now we're non-compliant on our board members, not just the election staff, but and this is an old paper I just printed out because it's just a guideline.

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This is from 2017 to 2018.

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No, I just brought it.

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But so you have to be a US citizen, you have to be a registered voter in the district and your primary residence has to be in the district.

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So right now we're out of compliance and I had them check on all the board members.

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We're not on compliance because you're not a registered voter.

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Okay, how do you register because you just have to go online or you can call the.

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I can't, uh, whatever police is, I, her type, I think you can do it online.

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Yeah, just Google Utah registered voter registration.

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Okay, so register voter.

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Yep. And then Larry, where this is not your primary residence, I have been told that you're supposed to resign and I have

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You're here more than anywhere, aren't you?

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Yeah, this is more.

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So it doesn't matter. It's based on what his tax notice says and I've done a lot of research.

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I've changed.

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So you have houses for sales and murder right now.

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So you're supposed to be a primary resident for two years before you can sit on any board.

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this is all Utah code and from what I was told and I talked to the county about it and I said okay is there you know

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to someone come in how do we do this and then I've talked to Utah Association of Special District I've

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talked to the state auditor I've asked if we could write exceptions into our bylaws and they've

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explained to me the only way around it is you can write exceptions into your bylaws but they have to be

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stricter than the Utah Code, not more lenient.

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And so I was told by all of these agencies that I've talked to, the same answer.

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So I've tried to research it as best as I can and find out as much as I can, but that's

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what I've told.

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I mean, it seems not that the clerk does this.

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It should be a board member.

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Well, we were working on it together.

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I've been the chairman more than two years, so.

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Well, but he hasn't lived here more than two years.

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So, and I talked with Jeff Chug about it and he said he goes,

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we're not gonna do any sanctions or do anything against you,

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but you need to work toward compliance.

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That's the underlying thing.

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So next year when elections happen,

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you would not be approved because you wouldn't meet

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that two-year requirement.

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Well, then I'm on a registered voter so that I'm off to.

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So you would years can you think so you want to vote here because I've been voting in Colorado because I had to be

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Because I had an account

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Mirror want a farm that I had to be a Colorado resident so that so kind of similar stuff

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So I had to I had to have registration there or I couldn't

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Transport a lot a lot of times I'd go and do their books and then drop off things on the way home

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So no one else had to and to do that I had to have Colorado like

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So I did but I don't have to anymore because I resigned all that stuff

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Okay, so you could register to vote here and that is all that would take for you to be compliant you got to live here two years

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That's bottom line you this has to be your primary residence. So

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Technically next year and 27 when we would do the elections you would be gone

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But every Betty that Wendy has talked to has said it you should be gone

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There is of non-compliance. There is a

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exception if we have less than, I've done a lot of research to try and make sure we're

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doing the right thing and trying to find the exceptions.

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If we have less than 50% in the district, not in the Valley or Taviona or whatever, if

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within our district boundaries less than 50% are primary residents, then you can make an

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an exception comparable to the amount.

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So say 60% of them are second home type,

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then we could maybe have one board member be,

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but we are over 50% of primary residents.

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So I really flipped into as many things as I could find.

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And like the park board ran into this

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with the voter registration recently

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with one of their board members.

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So basically what we do is when someone declares

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there's that they want to be a candidate to sit on the board and I explain this last

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month too.

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They'll fill out a card saying that they wanted to declare their candidacy.

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That goes to the county, they approve it whether or not they're put on the ballot.

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So that's when they check into some of this stuff.

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So they would say, you can't go on the ballot unless you register as a voter by the deadline

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or whatever.

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Sure.

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Yours just isn't that easy.

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He'll fast, especially if he has to keep that Colorado.

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Yeah.

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Registration.

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And this is your primary residence.

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I only sell it.

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So they checked into, I had them check into everything.

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I explained Timmy's situation because his primary residency is still here, but where he

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doesn't live here, he can't sit on the board unless he's moved back here and living here.

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I asked him if there's a percentage wise, where if you spend 50% of your time here, the

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You talk code says it has to be your primary residents, okay?

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So, a lot of information to damage stuff to all of them.

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That's interesting, and I can't imagine you'd want to make this your primary residence.

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Probably not.

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I'm just tax guy too, and we've just talked some tax strategies, and I said you ought to be in the battle resident, because there's no income tax there.

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Well, I've been here for 14 years, seven, eight months a year.

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So it's based on the tax notice where it says secondary home versus primary residence.

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That's what they say.

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That's the determining factor.

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Not reality.

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In reality, my primary residence probably helped her.

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Didn't you sell your house in Hipper?

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No, I'm just writing that.

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But where your tax notice has primary residence, they checked into all of them when I was there.

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Okay, yeah, I did try to make a primary because the taxes are so high on that place

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I tried to make it my primary and make the other one my secondary and I think that's it's cheaper

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That's done because that's how they haven't filed with the care. Well, I live here always yeah, okay. Yeah

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Hey, just what it is. That's being complained and that's the I wish I'd written on the exact wording, but I talked when I talked to them

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They said it doesn't meet the statutory requirements for Utah code for board member

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Yeah, I didn't find, I read, I'll admit, I didn't read every word that you took, because

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it's like 25 pages for each and everything.

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But I was told it's a two years, two years of primary residence before you can be elected

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to Canada to be elected.

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That makes it different, because I mean, there's people moving into my neighborhood, there's

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two more people that moved in but they just moved in because I tried to find more

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board members. The guy that lives down on Giles Lane's fillbacks that he'd like to

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sit on the board and this was right after I'd had that meeting and I just

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told that so I might tell they live up here full time he came. Okay that's good

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because then when we're trying to recruit some members then we know what our

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parameters are.

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We also know for the voting now that it's going to be a two-year or four-year term. So when we get compliant with that, you'll, you will either be serving a two-year or four-year term. Yeah. To stagger the elections. Yeah. So we don't have all the work done every day. Yeah. Yeah. With the library hours there is you can serve two terms and then you're off for a year. And then if there is an opening, you can reapply. You're not guaranteed. Yeah.

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that you'll get back in.

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Here's how we only serve on board for so long.

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That's just how they do that.

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That's how the, and yeah, are, at the library board, it's a two, four-year term.

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Some people can serve longer if they come in and take somebody's partial term, then they

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get maybe that one or two or three years.

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That's, you guys had a problem without people trying to hang on.

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Right.

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We've had a problem trying to get people to come.

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I don't know if you guys, you've got to go.

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You kicked off.

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So I don't hope you guys remember last year or last month, so we have to have, so we have five board member openings total.

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So we have to assign it, so like seat one, seat two, seat three, and seat four.

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So we would say seat one is assigned to dev Evans, but it's seat one is a four year term, and we have to assign it to each one.

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So they want us to assign either two or three to a four year term or two or three to a two year term.

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So next year, all five seats will be up for an election, but they'll go on as either a four-year or two-year term so that they can then alternate that.

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And we have to do that.

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We have to do that.

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I've been on the board what?

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Three, four years?

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The first year I didn't know anything.

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I mean, it takes a couple years just to get your arms wrapped around it because I would love everybody to serve four.

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Because it seems like you're not even useful the first two.

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Like, Kim, great example.

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Kim, do anything.

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But you can re-elect.

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right to the point where we don't have to be useful.

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We don't have the same thing is different

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where there is a set term that you could be reelected

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again and do another two years.

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So you don't have to be done at the two-year for you part.

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You just have to go be at for election again.

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So you could go from a two-year to a-year.

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Can you do a two-year to year than you have to go?

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No, we don't have anything in our by-laws.

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That's something we need to consider.

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okay but you can like if we assigned seat one and like I said we put it as a

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four-year and that's the seat we assigned a dev then her name goes in there

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but it just means that see all we say all of them are forward we have to do

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some we have to stagger it so we don't have all five seats come at the same

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election anymore can we do three four years and two years yeah how are we

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want to do it I think your point about longevity is very valid so let's do so

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So let's try it for a four year, a four year.

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And then the treasure, chairperson, and those jobs are just assigned within the board.

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It's not anything to do with the election.

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Well, and we-

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What would you want in your chairman and your secretary of treasure on the same schedule?

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Well, because those are, you don't want to play for those at the same time.

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But again, we don't have a term limit.

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Right.

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So we could just keep doing it and then we'd hopefully we could say if you know, I plan on I'll stay for and then you sales

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State

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Just so we don't want to quit. You might have a harder time

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Talking people into signing up for four years. Yeah, really? I in my opinion

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Okay, but anybody can resign at any time. It's not like you're stuck in it

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in the middle of the term. So I did three years and then they asked do you want to stay

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do we put you in for another so I'm in the middle of my foot well next summer I'll

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be done with this with the second four-year term so then I'm done for a year until there's

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another opening if I want to go back. I have loved it but I have to go to Roosevelt and

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to do Shane, whereas here, it's my right-handed down the road.

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So that's one of the big, like I wanted to still be doing something and involved in my

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community and helping out.

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So I don't know that I'll go back to the library.

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If it's anybody can resign anytime, then who gets a shit about the election?

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It has to do with the elections.

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That's the only way.

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But that's the thing.

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Because you advertise and say like this, notice is here by given, two positions are at

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for election terms are for four years.

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So these two that came available this year,

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or we're up for election this year,

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we're both four year terms.

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So that's how you do it.

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So you don't have a full bill or turn over

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at the same time.

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That's kind of, because it's going to be,

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oh yeah, I'll sign up for this and like,

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oh, I don't really like it.

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I'm out.

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Somebody else doesn't have to be elected.

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They can just be appointed to come in.

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So that's the other thing.

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We've been appointed board members,

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same thing.

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I kind of touched on all of this last month

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because I'm still doing research.

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But you fill out a declaration of candidacy

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It has to follow these things that they're talking about, and then those are sent to the county.

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So even if we want to appoint board members, it's not that we can't, but it has to go through the county.

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So we're going to now, once we know what we're doing and assign these seat terms, and then who's sitting on those seats at this point.

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We need to each, whoever is on them will fill out that declaration of candidacy.

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They'll basically approve you that you can sit on a board, and then I will give them the information so

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that we're compliant right now just with who's here, and then our election comes up next year because the

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elections are on the odd years. So she said right now we have nothing in the decision.

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There's an election every two years.

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Yes, every two years.

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Okay, and how does that election go down? How do you, how do you elect?

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I honestly don't know the polling station for the most part, and that's the other thing.

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The positions that they're in is like, if you have five people that are interested,

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and we have three seats up, well then they actually put in a candidacy for each seat.

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So, and you can't just say, okay, there's three seats available for election, two of applied for, or declared for seat one, one for seat two and seat for, or three for one and one for the other ones, they can't just switch to another seat.

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They have to declare their candidacy for another seat. So, these seats.

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could be like unopposed for three of the seats and then two people are buying for seat five.

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Right. Yeah. How do we determine that? And if there's basically we would just manage it

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when we find out how many people are going to go. I want to go against gray. Take him down.

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You know, no. I can't even get people to serve without. I know. That's my point.

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We don't even have enough. I just compliance.

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But I also like coming in here. I have no idea how long it went and we've broken back

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You know, I don't know any of that and Larry's been fired now

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We'll give him a good reference

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You the ways out, but he's out when well, I mean, I'd be surprised to see him next month, but I

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Mean I'm good. This has been

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and both, did he have a query now or did he share that he can stay on to the election?

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Well, we do have all of you guys declare your candidacy and so that I can even enter you guys' board member for right now.

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I'm going to give him a comment.

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14 up here.

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No, his primary residence is in Murray.

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This is considered a second.

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He's lived up here for 14 years but he didn't declare this as his prime.

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So on the on the tax records his primary house is a Murray and this is secondary house

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Even though he's lived here more than half the year here for the last 14 years. Oh you have to improve that

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A little bit the tax record. Yeah, it's exactly. So when we pay I have I've had Reynolds

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And I have my CPA go back and change him

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Unlist them with personal for tax records, but I had to pay that for money that I yeah

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I think a big part of it though was getting all the organization of how this should work.

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So we're compliant, but I mean, even just for election stuff to be compliant because

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then we can advertise and say we have positions open that you can be appointed to.

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You have to go through this protocol to be appointed and then they fill out a candidacy.

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We get them approved and then they can be appointed by the county. Well, as I was doing this, so I might as we'll say this because it's on my mind.

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You're the you're the board member for this. You're the board member for operations. You're the board member for funding.

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You're the board member for the government liaison and you're the board member for rules and reg. You should be a board member.

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Well, and we should get a different clerk. Well, I don't want to do this for not paid to do all the stuff I do.

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Like we're doing. Right. But then we take all our all our advice from our clerk. But here's the difference.

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I'm doing all this because I get paid and I don't I don't think there's any

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expectation you guys having a full-time job for free. So that is why I've done

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a lot of this stuff. Okay, and on the library board we have a director who does

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what she does, then we have a section. Should we have a director then too? Well no,

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because I think when he fills that position he's the one that gives us all the

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stats and he does all like all the stuff paid. Yeah. Yeah. He's a paid director. So maybe you

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should be the director. Can we get to positions paid because we need a clerk and you're you're

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more of a director or a board member than a clerk. Right. What do we call you? Is it a clerk?

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Is it a clerk? That's because I was trying. Okay. But you do a lot more and I think she does more but

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I still think we needed you know somebody to be in a clerk position because you know we need a clerk

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to do billing and you know that's why I wondered what all this is. She gets paid.

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So does your director do bill? He manages two branches plus four. So it sounds like

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that director is more like a chairman of the board. He's more. No, we have a chairperson

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and the decision. Is your director supersede your chairperson? Does the director make the

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decision? No, yes. No. The board makes the decision. There's not a single person that

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that makes the decision, anything that comes up.

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Holidays, we vote on that for paid employees,

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what that schedule is gonna look like every now and then

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that gets changed.

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Because our problem here is, you're an independent contractor.

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You don't even work for Hannah.

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Which I am not opposed to changing that.

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Yeah, I mean, we need to talk about it.

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Because that's what I was thinking,

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because she can't make any decisions for Hannah water,

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because she doesn't work for Hannah water.

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She is 1099, you know, from an accounting standpoint,

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point 1099 any seat non-employee compensation.

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So I don't think, you know, from the same thing,

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if you looked at the, went to the director and said,

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can we just hire a clerk to run everything?

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Like, we got a board.

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The board doesn't make the decisions.

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Wendy makes all the decisions.

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How about you?

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I go by your boats.

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I don't make decisions.

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There's Wendy making.

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Most of the time we come in said,

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Wendy went to the meetings and she decided this

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or she went to the funding.

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No board members are we going?

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To be honest with you, most of them

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board member meetings. There are things like when we've represented for funding if a board member

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came that's great but no one's been in the position to have the information to present but like

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I went to training today I mean shouldn't the board member know what's going on? Because who runs

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hand of water it seems like the clerk runs hand of water and not board seems. If someone wants to be

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involved I there is nothing wrong with that. I've said I want to be involved for three years.

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I

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I've never seen a financial report that goes out.

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Never seen one.

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You guys have signed the financial reports that I send out.

435
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I haven't signed anything.

436
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Yes, you have.

437
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I have your signature on them.

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OK, then you brought in your rough draft.

439
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I have brought in the report.

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But I wasn't part of that at all.

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And if you want to take on those compliance reports

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and something, that's perfectly fine.

443
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No, I think then when I have a board,

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when I have a secretary of treasury, it does do anything.

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That's my point.

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I mean, I'm going to say, if I'm not more involved,

447
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or I don't feel like I'm in any,

448
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I feel like I'm a volunteer, but I'm not appreciated.

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I don't do anything.

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I don't have any authority.

451
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You supersede anything, I say.

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I'm like, what am I here for?

453
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Am I doing this?

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I'm sorry, I just want to understand what you mean.

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What am I superseding that you say?

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Like for instance, I thought you were the clerk

457
00:27:47,380 --> 00:27:49,220
and we were like, so let's just sign a board member

458
00:27:49,220 --> 00:27:52,660
to do the, you know, decide the procedures and rules

459
00:27:52,660 --> 00:27:53,760
and government liaison.

460
00:27:54,220 --> 00:27:56,180
I thought a board member should do that, really.

461
00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:57,920
Not a clerk.

462
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,720
But when did I supersede that?

463
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,200
I guess I'm just trying to answer.

464
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,520
I can't remember a time that you didn't.

465
00:28:04,660 --> 00:28:06,060
So for three years, and I've said,

466
00:28:06,220 --> 00:28:08,140
remember I said to go to the last work and want to.

467
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,160
And I've said, I don't know, a hundred times.

468
00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:11,340
I'm not the last board.

469
00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:13,100
I've been on board.

470
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:15,840
And I've been in a position of being the secretary of treasurer.

471
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,160
And usually I make the decisions on that.

472
00:28:18,260 --> 00:28:20,060
And I have the clerk and she answers to me.

473
00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:21,260
You don't answer to me.

474
00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:22,280
Do you think you answered to me?

475
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:24,380
Or do you think I answered to you?

476
00:28:24,860 --> 00:28:26,160
I don't think you answered to me.

477
00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:27,060
Do you answer to me?

478
00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:28,760
I don't know that I answered to you.

479
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,980
I think I answered to the whole board. I don't think the answer anybody. That's my point. I'm just I'm just I'm not trying to make

480
00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:41,520
It's contentious. I'm just trying to say this is how I feel. If so then the changes would need to

481
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:48,040
That's why I'm trying to get a flow chart. Like where do I fit in? Yeah, what do I do? You know and Larry's taking over is the job

482
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,840
I'm trying to work with or I've sent help with the construction. He's been helping in the backs, you know because

483
00:28:53,660 --> 00:29:00,760
and Ray and Tim used to, and so that's why let's get everybody working and feel like we're all doing something.

484
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:08,320
And the biggest thing I think, you know exactly what you're saying is the board members that have come and gone and whatever else.

485
00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:10,320
They just want to feel like they're part of the board.

486
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,860
And we've talked about it quite a bit here in the meetings.

487
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:20,860
It's like board members in the past and now feel like they'd come to the meetings and be talked to

488
00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:25,340
and not talked with and be part of the board and the decision making.

489
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,120
So then after a seven year, for an hour, hour and a half,

490
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:30,920
then I'll say, okay, we'll see you next week.

491
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:32,980
The board members would all get up and leave.

492
00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:36,880
And it's like they didn't feel like they were part of anything.

493
00:29:37,540 --> 00:29:39,480
So that's one of the things that, you know,

494
00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:43,880
when Ray stepped down and put me there,

495
00:29:44,420 --> 00:29:45,680
that was one of the things that said, hey,

496
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:47,740
we need to get the board members.

497
00:29:47,740 --> 00:29:51,960
they want to be more part, they want to be involved, right?

498
00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:54,140
So that's what we were trying to do.

499
00:29:54,740 --> 00:29:59,980
And it seems like the more that we would try to, we would try to...

500
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:29,760
We'll put people in operations or funding our government, whatever, then we would get pushed back from windy about not getting the right information, not being willing to go out there and let them carry that forward and do what we've asked them. At one time we had Tim and Ray working with Brent Bingham, you know, and Brent Bingham was like, okay, you need to report to Tim and Ray.

501
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,520
remember, everything tools, whatever, Tim and Ray can report back to the board and say,

502
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,940
hey, they need this, they need this, they need this.

503
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,940
Or, okay, there's too much money.

504
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:46,920
Okay, over $500, but then Brent Bingham felt like his toes were stepped on, never use Tim

505
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:53,460
and Ray, you know, all to do any of that kind of stuff, and it's like, oh guys, if we

506
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,060
get pushed back, and if we do this, again, like Brent said, why do we need a board?

507
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:05,200
Why, why wasn't it just, you know, the clerk and the operator running Hannah Walker?

508
00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:09,180
So, that's kind of where we're at.

509
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,020
From an employee standpoint, I mean, they shouldn't be able to sign a document

510
00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:14,620
and make any decisions because they're not, they're independent contractors,

511
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,500
just like Horox can't sign for Hannah Water and an account, I'm an account.

512
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,140
So, I'm an independent contractor for everybody I work with.

513
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:26,020
I can't run the meetings, I can't run their elections, I can because I'm independent contractor.

514
00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:29,420
So, if she's the director, we have to make her the director, make her an employee.

515
00:31:29,980 --> 00:31:32,640
Like you wanted to be in charge of the operator.

516
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:34,540
That's my recollection.

517
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,780
I'm being in charge of Brent Bingham said, let Brent Bingham know that he has to answer

518
00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:38,000
for me.

519
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,380
Well, you're the clerk.

520
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,660
No, I'm sorry.

521
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:41,680
That's...

522
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,420
That's how I took her.

523
00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:46,800
No, you did say that you could manage Brent Bingham.

524
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:55,300
Well, Wendy has all the information coming into her, so it doesn't make sense to have all

525
00:31:55,300 --> 00:32:01,760
All these other arms out there when she does the billing, she gets the calls for turning

526
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,680
on things, turning off things, getting new hookups, all of that.

527
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:12,880
I don't see that as being in conflict with what the board does.

528
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Our director brings the information, it's like a second or a backup.

529
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,860
So not one person is making all the decisions. Wendy can find the information and bring it to us

530
00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:34,080
And then we either yay or nay it as a board. So it's not just somebody saying that that's should have work

531
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:41,620
Yeah, so for anything for pay for these guys or you work here for another one three or four months ago

532
00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:44,660
Wendy came and said she can't work with Larry anymore and she doesn't work with me

533
00:32:44,660 --> 00:32:48,820
And so she had and I didn't know that it's not fair

534
00:32:48,820 --> 00:32:52,480
That's the conversation either. So bring it up. We're all here. I didn't be

535
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,640
behind to back I'm doing in front of you. And how is that relevant for right now?

536
00:32:56,780 --> 00:33:07,640
We're trying to decide this. It's relevant. She is hired by the board to be in this position.

537
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:15,380
And her job is the things that she does. And then she can bring that information to us.

538
00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:23,960
And we that's what I've asked for I didn't know what her job was for three years. I've still been asked. You haven't I I know what her job is after being here for three months by what

539
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:45,360
I asked I've asked her because she does everything but should she do everything is my question. Well I think the thing she's doing should all be consolidated into one and I don't have

540
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560
I say, no calls on hookups and no calls on billing.

541
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,580
Those are things that I think we need to clerk for.

542
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,040
And no, we can't do this for that.

543
00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:53,620
I clerk in the operator, run everything.

544
00:33:54,260 --> 00:33:57,360
But I want to, I'm trying to decide what does the board do.

545
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,040
And every board member has asked me, what do we do?

546
00:34:00,260 --> 00:34:02,980
I mean, we don't, we don't seem to have any authority

547
00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:03,680
to do anything.

548
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,440
We don't, you're a board.

549
00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:08,880
So you are working together to not individually

550
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,320
making decisions on the date.

551
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,420
And that's how it should be.

552
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,100
Right, so that's how it should be,

553
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:15,200
But it hasn't been that way.

554
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,560
But having individual things isn't going to make that happen.

555
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,860
That's going to fracture it more if we have the individual.

556
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:28,980
It seems like it's not fractured than whoever's the liaison or that then does what Wendy's

557
00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:31,880
done, which I thought should be a great board member or the chairman of the board.

558
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,120
Because then she said we got to have an election.

559
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:42,060
But would you think, you know, that didn't seem to me and every board I've been on and I

560
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:48,280
had a clerk run election for example or decide who can't or you know what happens or take or go

561
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,480
to the funding meetings it's been a board member and that the clerk too because the clerk

562
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,440
has does a lot of the labor but the board member has to make the decision that's how it's been

563
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,480
in the past for me but as a director I can see it being different and individual board members making

564
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:09,040
the decision or your board in general but a board is at least represented at these meetings and the

565
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,000
the board just represented it, whatever anything that goes on.

566
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,240
Oh, what he was trying to do was like Brim Beam.

567
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440
When he was out, he found something that needed fix,

568
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,300
needed fix, instead of waiting until the meeting,

569
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,860
like he could call me and Timmy,

570
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:24,100
and we said, guideline to the board.

571
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:27,740
So I'm gonna so much money, we could just say do it.

572
00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:29,720
And if it didn't feel good,

573
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,360
then we would bring it back to the board.

574
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,260
That makes sense.

575
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,960
That's what we're trying to do,

576
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,140
is get different people involved in different things.

577
00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:44,480
What you're saying me bring enough that she tried to get Larry fired behind everybody's back is not relevant in her opinion

578
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,820
How did I try to get Larry fired you jumped down my throat say does that even row here?

579
00:35:50,180 --> 00:35:55,920
And you're not gonna talk to me like that and you're not gonna talk to me like that okay all right

580
00:35:56,420 --> 00:36:03,280
I'm talking you nicely until you you attack me just told me that I jumped down your throat I have not ever jumped down your throat

581
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,560
I felt like you did.

582
00:36:04,860 --> 00:36:10,560
And that's maybe a statement that I could accept, but I did not intend to jump down your throat.

583
00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:14,300
I'm trying to bring it and trying to store it out and you're not on me.

584
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,720
You're acting like I have no reason to bring you into this stuff up.

585
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,320
No, I'm not.

586
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:19,920
I'm asking questions.

587
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:22,460
You said and I quote, how was that relevant?

588
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,520
Now, how should I tell you?

589
00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:27,100
How is stuff that happened before relevant?

590
00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:29,400
It has never been solved, because I want to resolve it.

591
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:38,900
one. Can I give it? Let me just let's to be the board with one thing instead. I agree.

592
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:47,120
I'm trying to make it. You know, I mean, it looks like, you know, for whatever reason,

593
00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:55,080
however, I winded and I got sideways, that's it. You know, so that that should be between us.

594
00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:03,560
you guys as a water board. If you guys want me out, I'm good. I put so much time, so much effort into this.

595
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:15,720
Wendy has been sideways with me for at least six months now after everything I tried to do to help and get the community off of Wendy's back and everything else.

596
00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,680
I know where this is going. I know what this is about.

597
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:31,720
I took the high road, I took the high road when Wendy went and called every board member to say it's either Mayor Larry, that was the phone call that was made.

598
00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:33,620
And I get no but phone call till later.

599
00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:37,540
So I said, I want to do what's best for hand water.

600
00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:40,700
I am not going to get into any issues with Wendy.

601
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:48,360
Wendy came to the very next meeting and it seems like the timing was when I said, Brent, help us your CPA.

602
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,280
It helped us with our finances and helped us find a way to get some of this stuff.

603
00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:55,220
That's where we kind of started going sideways.

604
00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:55,780
No.

605
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,240
And then when you came to the meeting, right, because at the previous meeting, you told

606
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:05,860
me to know my role and stay in my lane because you were yelling at me.

607
00:38:05,860 --> 00:38:06,120
No.

608
00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:06,880
I was not.

609
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,880
You repeated something that you read online and I said, that's not an accurate.

610
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,220
Can I explain it to you?

611
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:16,240
And you said, you will not explain anything to me.

612
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:17,720
You need to know your lane.

613
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:24,240
you're doing it. I mean you got so mad that you said no I'm imitating what

614
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:27,940
happened. So what I'm trying to do is figure out whatever is Laney's yeah that's

615
00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:31,860
what I'm trying to do. You don't know this all background. I'm totally good with

616
00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:36,000
getting people in position. So that's what I'm trying to do. Okay but you're

617
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,300
bringing up past things because it is okay. Don't you think it needs to be resolved?

618
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:48,940
I mean, I have talked for several times and she has said to me on every occasion that

619
00:38:48,940 --> 00:38:49,300
we've talked.

620
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,420
I don't, this is not vindictive, this is not to go ask her.

621
00:38:53,720 --> 00:39:01,240
She had no it is not, it is, you know, if you saw what she has looked into, I've asked

622
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:03,740
her, is there another way, is there something else?

623
00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:05,120
She's like, let me call these people.

624
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:14,440
She has spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to be compliant and to be able to have you stay here and to not have you think it was

625
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:20,300
Vindictive and for you to be that way just shows your character to me

626
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:28,900
That's that's that's because you don't know Larry because you know I you don't know what you said I'm doing you it's you dad

627
00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:35,180
Yeah, it's you, you're causing the control that I said that would make you also and have that

628
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:36,640
change

629
00:39:38,460 --> 00:39:46,200
Indictive and it's not it's a hundred percent of compliance has been very worried about that and she didn't go looking for this

630
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,760
She because I asked where like I for the library board

631
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:57,160
I had to put in a resume. I had to be interviewed. I'm like I just show up and I'm on like what there's what happened here

632
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:02,080
I've said that same thing when she brought you here like bring a resume. I wanted to do that same thing

633
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:08,540
Did I say let's have a resume? Don't read him and remember she said I don't have one available, but I can verbally give it to you

634
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:13,080
So she did that so we want and I'm trying to sort it out so we run like a board

635
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,240
Okay, now I like I agree that that needs to happen

636
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:22,920
And we need if there's some personality conflicts if the if the clerk director color director

637
00:40:23,620 --> 00:40:28,380
if she can't work with the board with the chairman of the board you don't see

638
00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:33,920
that as an issue that we need to discuss haven't you noticed that the the

639
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:40,120
last few meetings I sit here I try not to say anything Wendy told me I can't

640
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,940
call her I can't talk to her on me I never said don't call me talk to me here in

641
00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:50,540
this meeting I heard it no I didn't I said I am not okay with you talking to me

642
00:40:50,540 --> 00:40:54,880
the way you talked to me and then Brent jumped in and said you won't talk to Larry that way

643
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,120
and jumped down my throat. I addressed the fact that you had talked to Robertory to me and I said

644
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,780
I will not sit here and be treated that way. I hadn't heard that. You said you can't call you

645
00:41:05,780 --> 00:41:08,920
on the phone because you won't even talk to unless your husband's there and listening to him. You said

646
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:15,180
you said that I called. No, I never said that. You said that you called me on the phone. And I said

647
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:17,640
The right and the entire last board, I said,

648
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:18,840
that is not true.

649
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,380
I've never spoken in mean word to you on the phone.

650
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,460
I've always tried to, everybody who's calling you,

651
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,220
you call me and say, hey, they want to come to my house,

652
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,680
they want to yell at me, they want to do this.

653
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:30,580
I said, what do I say?

654
00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:32,220
Give them my name number.

655
00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:33,540
I'll take care of it.

656
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,860
You do not need to go through that.

657
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:36,080
You have said that when people,

658
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,700
when customers have called and gotten upset,

659
00:41:37,940 --> 00:41:39,860
you have said, yeah, don't let them,

660
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:41,060
you can have them call me.

661
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,040
You have said that.

662
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,300
And I've always had your back.

663
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:47,520
I've always tried to make things work between us and our customers.

664
00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:55,460
My main goal is to have our customers get the water, get the service that they need at

665
00:41:55,460 --> 00:41:56,580
the best public price.

666
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,000
That's all I've tried to do.

667
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:58,920
That's awesome.

668
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:01,780
I've been in a lot of time.

669
00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:03,260
You think I'm in Larry's camp?

670
00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:04,320
I met Larry here.

671
00:42:04,580 --> 00:42:06,300
I didn't know Larry until I came here.

672
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:07,020
I was.

673
00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:07,880
I'm not Larry's buddy.

674
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:11,080
I am now because I've made him here.

675
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,600
I didn't know him before here.

676
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:20,340
But you two do have a lot of conversations outside of the meeting where you guys discuss how how things should be handled and how do you know

677
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,180
How many times I call you this month to talk about it today on the way to the meeting

678
00:42:26,140 --> 00:42:32,680
Larry, do you remember what started the first conversation because there were two meetings in a row that were very rough

679
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,780
Do you remember what started that?

680
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:41,920
You told me you'd look things up online and found level one sources and I said there can

681
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,720
considered active versus inactive, there's no levels on them. And you've got

682
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:55,240
very upset at me when I corrected you. No, that's not true. So my main goal and

683
00:42:55,240 --> 00:43:01,120
we have that here, we have five water systems. All right. So the world I come from,

684
00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:09,640
if you have an asset, you take care of the asset. We have five assets and one and a half

685
00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:17,040
So my goal, and it's always been my goal to have a back-up plan, emergency back-up plans,

686
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:19,760
we need to get those assets working.

687
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:23,920
When your stance has always been, we don't need them.

688
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:30,480
You don't understand what you're talking about, and that's where the voice has got raised.

689
00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:36,580
And I told you that the time I apologize for raising my voice.

690
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:46,140
But you, but you say that I don't know why you won't let me teach you and I don't know why you don't want to listen to me.

691
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:52,540
And I said, I see what I see. We have five assets that are not in compliance.

692
00:43:53,360 --> 00:44:04,520
And then went on to the state records and it shows Rose Canyon, it shows our wells, our sites, as being a stage one in compliance.

693
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:11,760
That's all I said and all of a sudden you started talking about I don't know why you

694
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,340
won't listen to me and I don't know why you won't teach me and I said I don't need

695
00:44:15,340 --> 00:44:22,820
you to teach me anything. I see what I see. I've been to every single site, great Timmy,

696
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,260
bent to every single site, that's why we put them working with Brent Bingham so we can get

697
00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:33,100
We have to put an asset assessment on what we have out there, right?

698
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:43,660
But again, to me to have one and a half, or one and a quarter, out of five systems of an operating, doesn't make sense.

699
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,020
We need to get those running, and I said over and over.

700
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,820
I know we're tight on money, but we have to do a five year budget.

701
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:57,060
We have to put a budget together that we can go work on things here, here, here and here.

702
00:44:57,060 --> 00:44:59,880
but we have to get these assets back in.

703
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,880
I've been running, if not, why haven't you been? Right? So that that's what started the whole thing. I definitely saw those conversations. You can't tell me that I don't know. I don't know why you want. No, I said, I think you misunderstood. I would just like to explain it to you. I said, I think that I'm with Wendy and this one. Sorry, but you did say that. You did. She said, let me explain it to you. You took it. You took a personally, which I think

704
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:35,040
you're taking it like what do you teach me but it is but it goes it's back and forth

705
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:40,520
yeah it's isn't back and forth and I think you did in that specific specific case I don't think

706
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,200
you came across aggressive I think you were saying let me see Dan I'll show you what you've been

707
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,820
here longer maybe maybe not as long as right I don't know what are you doing we came on the exact same

708
00:45:48,820 --> 00:45:54,020
moment so you've been here longer than us Larry and I are from a corporate background and I see

709
00:45:54,020 --> 00:45:57,640
Larry's from Coca-Cola and his background's Coca-Cola and he comes from in a Coca-Cola place

710
00:45:58,180 --> 00:46:02,040
I'm a press water ass, I mean I was on a lot of boards, but the boards never

711
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,840
under. There's got to be someone in charge. I don't know who's in charge. I think

712
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,920
it's Wendy, but I think you got to have somebody in charge whether it's

713
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,360
military or a corporation or anything. Someone's got to be in charge. Good or

714
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,180
bad or indifferent. There's got to be a flow. There's got to be... Can I comment on

715
00:46:17,180 --> 00:46:21,700
something you just said? You just said you've been here longer than us. You know a lot

716
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:26,280
of stuff. That's exactly I guess the point I'm trying to make. If I'm not allowed

717
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,920
to explain something. I don't know how to help. And how I have been here longer than you guys,

718
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,740
and if you guys want to step in and help with things, 100%, but you have to learn them, you can't

719
00:46:37,740 --> 00:46:43,280
just assume the the work and take it on and show up to a meeting and say, hey, I'd like to present

720
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:49,840
for Hannah Water for $3.4 million in funding. Would you guys have been able to answer the questions?

721
00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:53,820
Yeah, if it would give me a two weeks to get ready for it, yeah, I would be able to.

722
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:54,960
but I think that's the point.

723
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,700
You have to be willing to learn it.

724
00:46:59,780 --> 00:47:01,100
And that's why I said bring it to the table.

725
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:01,680
But I did.

726
00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:04,060
I brought all of those funding things in.

727
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:05,460
I talked about the meetings.

728
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,200
I remember telling Larry, yeah, this week I go to Coucheram

729
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,020
for the last, well, we'll hopefully be the last.

730
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:12,480
And at the end of the meeting, he said, good luck at the meeting.

731
00:47:12,820 --> 00:47:14,420
I did make you guys aware.

732
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,720
And you guys had to approve this.

733
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,760
You could at least give me this part,

734
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,220
didn't I always say, shouldn't the board member go to that?

735
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,440
I don't remember you ever saying that.

736
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,400
I said it every time you went to anything and that's why I said if I'm not useful, that's one like

737
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:31,100
My first year in here. I said if I'm not doing anything. I'm just gonna quit. I don't need to just be here and

738
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,700
I got plenty things to do so if I'm useful then I want to be here

739
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:40,000
And if I don't have a conversation about this before as well and you said the same thing

740
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,740
We want to be useful. We want to be involved and I was like I get it and we need to learn the things and and

741
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:49,400
Work together and you said I get it. I don't get paid for this either. You do get paid

742
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,020
so I and I don't have a lot of time. So it's kind of the same thing. So if there's things that I

743
00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:00,820
I have not made decisions or taken things like out of your hands. I have presented things to you guys.

744
00:48:00,820 --> 00:48:05,860
I've sent text messages. I've sent emails. I've sent stuff. I don't feel like I've made decisions

745
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:11,960
on your behalf as a board. You guys voted for the funding. I did go to the funding meetings and

746
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,580
represented Hannah water, but I didn't make the decisions on the funding. You guys had all that

747
00:48:16,580 --> 00:48:21,700
information as well. Maybe it just seems like that's why this is my point of this. I want to clear

748
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:25,720
the air and I want to make sure people can work with each other. You don't call me hardly ever

749
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:30,200
and I don't really on the budget. I usually try to say three or four months or let's get going on

750
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,120
the budget so that I can figure it out and then we can and then let you and I figure it out and present

751
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,240
it to the board because they don't know nobody here knows. I mean the first budget meeting we went

752
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:45,480
through I was here with everybody else like okay we did two hundred dollars last year. I had no

753
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,200
which I was going to do in the same thing.

754
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,020
I was still me doing it as well.

755
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:49,960
Hundreds of budgets.

756
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:51,280
And yet I looked at our budget lane.

757
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:52,160
I don't know.

758
00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:54,460
Like today, I looked like, where are we at on our budget?

759
00:48:55,540 --> 00:48:58,380
I'd love to see what I want the clerk to do in my opinion.

760
00:48:58,580 --> 00:48:59,480
This is me as an account.

761
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:02,560
I want to see a financial statement every month, year to day.

762
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,480
And I should have brought that I apologize.

763
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:07,460
And then I wanted to say, here's how we're doing on a budget.

764
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,100
So we know what, you know, then when DAX is, hey,

765
00:49:11,180 --> 00:49:12,440
we got to blow out, we got to work on it.

766
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:15,320
Then I can look like, we got money

767
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:21,260
in the budget or can we shift it, or, you know, I'm used to running things like a business

768
00:49:21,260 --> 00:49:26,700
and having somebody like you, I've never called them a director, but you are a director.

769
00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:28,420
You're not a clerk, you're a director.

770
00:49:28,620 --> 00:49:32,540
You really run this thing, really, you have more information to anybody else, and a lot

771
00:49:32,540 --> 00:49:37,240
of that is because we just don't know, and we're not, I don't usually get the emails and

772
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:41,640
maybe you have sent some, but we don't, I'm trying to just say, what is your job?

773
00:49:42,060 --> 00:49:48,540
So then when we say, if that's your job, okay, but every board I've been on, we've had

774
00:49:48,540 --> 00:49:51,780
a chairman of the board that ran the meeting, and we've had the board that, when some

775
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:54,560
said, hey, we got a vote on something this week, here's our ideas.

776
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,120
And then the clerk who knows more than anybody, here's what I think, this is what I've done,

777
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,620
the board votes, and we'll go forward.

778
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:08,860
So the board has purpose, the board votes on the president and his salary, the president

779
00:50:08,860 --> 00:50:10,100
an answer to the chairman of the board.

780
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,940
The chairman of the board runs the meeting

781
00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:12,780
but the answer to the board.

782
00:50:13,420 --> 00:50:15,100
But this board doesn't seem to work that way.

783
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,180
Do you remember that email that you sent

784
00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:19,960
after that second meeting when things blew up

785
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,020
and I went up and had you sign checks

786
00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:24,340
and then you sent an email about me being a 1099

787
00:50:24,340 --> 00:50:26,620
and I shouldn't represent how to water

788
00:50:26,620 --> 00:50:27,820
that it should come from a board.

789
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:28,880
Yeah, probably.

790
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,580
So there has been a lot of emails sent

791
00:50:31,580 --> 00:50:33,960
and Chuck will send them to myself and Larry.

792
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,740
And I don't know if Larry's forwarding them on,

793
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,140
but I have stepped back.

794
00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:41,560
I see those emails come through and then nothing happens with them.

795
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:47,540
But my point was that was, either we ought to put you as a director and employee of

796
00:50:47,540 --> 00:50:52,780
Hannah Water, or it was my opinion from a legal standpoint, a clerk or an independent

797
00:50:52,780 --> 00:50:55,860
contractor, 1099 employee can't sign from Hannah Water.

798
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,400
How have you seen that in libraries?

799
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,020
I mean, I'm deferring to you on a lot of this because it's a small situation.

800
00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:05,720
We get a budget, but we don't deal anything with financials.

801
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:10,420
Our chairman does, like when we get donations,

802
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,680
she sends a thank you note.

803
00:51:14,140 --> 00:51:17,660
I know that happens, but I don't, that is,

804
00:51:17,660 --> 00:51:18,960
we can't make you liable.

805
00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:20,480
I mean, I don't think you can get sued.

806
00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:22,560
You're doing something for Hannah Water

807
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,000
because you're not even on Hannah Water

808
00:51:24,340 --> 00:51:25,460
or it seems that way to me.

809
00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:29,320
So, are you thinking of rather than

810
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,220
an independent 1099 employee employing her?

811
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:49,420
if that's what we're going to do if that's as a director like because this is the first time for the director idea and I that's that's how we're running it but it's never been presented that way, you know, it's never it's always been we got a clerk and we got an operator, we pay him 1099.

812
00:51:50,540 --> 00:52:02,500
They work at will, like for instance, in our situations, like you can fire or hire contractors anytime you want, like Horox.

813
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:08,840
I mentioned to Larry today. I said Larry, because Horox wants their contract for the independent contractor.

814
00:52:08,860 --> 00:52:11,400
They're an independent contractor. They want a contract for a year or so.

815
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,340
So we have to do the same for these guys. I mean, these guys are more important to us than Horax

816
00:52:15,820 --> 00:52:21,660
Why don't we give them a year contract and then have some sort of an agreement that hey, you've got a year contract

817
00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:25,620
We're gonna pay for a year and you're on and then give us 30 days if you're gonna quit

818
00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:30,820
You know, so you don't leave a sign right something so we know where we're at again my whole point of this is

819
00:52:31,580 --> 00:52:32,360
Who does what?

820
00:52:32,980 --> 00:52:37,140
Where's the flow of responsibility? Who's in charge in my

821
00:52:37,940 --> 00:52:42,360
limited experience the chairman's usually been in charge but in this area it's

822
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:49,480
our clerk that's in charge it seems to me and it's um I'm gonna answer for you

823
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,800
Larry because the first thing I thought of when you said bring up a vote is like

824
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,940
she's still trying to get rid of Larry I was upset to find out I'm sorry I just

825
00:52:57,940 --> 00:53:02,280
didn't bring up a vote about what the board board has to be voted on like it's just

826
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,080
another way you go to church you know a lot of people Larry knows nobody you

827
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,240
It shows me in three guys, you know the right, no one's going to vote for Larry.

828
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,540
And if you all you got to do is tell your relief society class or I don't know if it's

829
00:53:12,540 --> 00:53:12,860
called that.

830
00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:15,360
I don't think that's how the vote goes.

831
00:53:15,940 --> 00:53:16,700
That's why I asked.

832
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,080
The same thing though, the election is compliance.

833
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,980
The reason why we haven't had an election is because I wasn't aware and I was made aware

834
00:53:23,980 --> 00:53:28,520
because the park department apparently something changed with the state.

835
00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:33,100
Normally they sent you packets every two years for your election to start your election and

836
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:34,700
they haven't been doing it.

837
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:39,100
So the park department also missed an election two year or a year ago.

838
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:40,640
They haven't had one as well.

839
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:40,900
Yeah.

840
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:45,380
So they told me, you know, they had to have a small town groomer, but somebody got

841
00:53:45,380 --> 00:53:49,480
let go from the board because he wasn't registered as a voter and he refused to do it.

842
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,060
So then they said, you guys are probably in the same vote.

843
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,780
Vote because you, did you guys get an election packet?

844
00:53:55,780 --> 00:53:58,040
And I was like, no, I don't know anything about the election.

845
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,120
Well, even when you, remember when I came on board?

846
00:54:00,620 --> 00:54:02,680
I came because Ben's a neighbor of mine.

847
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,320
and then I said, hey, there's a good group of guys.

848
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,740
I just want you to come and talk to the board.

849
00:54:05,860 --> 00:54:07,580
And then before I left, I was voted on.

850
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:10,220
And I said, I don't even have any water.

851
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:12,060
I've got a well.

852
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,700
And then I got voted on like, okay,

853
00:54:14,780 --> 00:54:15,800
because every place I've moved,

854
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,060
I've tried to do something in the community to help.

855
00:54:18,340 --> 00:54:20,660
I was a commissioner baseball for some areas

856
00:54:20,660 --> 00:54:21,400
and I didn't have a boy.

857
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,880
So I had no horse in the game or no dog in the hunt.

858
00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:28,960
I just tried to do something for the community for free.

859
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:31,100
And I was trying to do that here,

860
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:35,820
But then I felt like I'm not appreciated and you know, I've been a lot of $500 an hour and I thought I

861
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:41,160
I'm kind of poor. I need to finish the cab and I should work more instead of coming here because when I come here

862
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,880
It's like it's a lot of this and I'm sorry you and I got so I wasn't want to. I don't know. I don't know you

863
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,560
You don't know me. You don't know Larry

864
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,940
I've met Larry and I've met a lot of the people he's worked with and I found him to be a very reasonable guy

865
00:54:53,380 --> 00:54:55,760
And then most of his employees love him to death and would

866
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:02,640
It would take a bullet for him, and then he and Wendy got sideways, and you know, when

867
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:07,580
I saw both sides, and I tried to be fair, I tried to be fair that you said some things,

868
00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:11,420
and I see it from your point of view when you're thinking, a clerk's telling me she's going to train me,

869
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,540
the chairman of the board want to do, so I get where you come from, but maybe he may take that.

870
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:21,300
But I think chairman of the board into business sense is different than in this sense.

871
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:23,180
and I've never worked for it, not for profit.

872
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:28,240
Yeah, and even though it's not even the chairman of the board

873
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:31,720
or anything else, when I go out there

874
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:36,220
and I see your systems in such disarray, right?

875
00:55:36,340 --> 00:55:38,080
I mean, they're everywhere, right?

876
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:40,060
This really was, how many hours a month

877
00:55:40,060 --> 00:55:41,320
do you think you put in for Antelope?

878
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,280
No, I don't think so.

879
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:49,160
It's over 20 hours working on, working on, you know.

880
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:49,680
That's awesome.

881
00:55:49,740 --> 00:55:50,540
Do you think you need a raise?

882
00:55:50,540 --> 00:55:52,220
And most of the time she would hate it.

883
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,020
Well, I mean, I've never seen anybody try harder

884
00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:55,380
than Larry.

885
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,420
Is it like I haven't?

886
00:55:56,620 --> 00:55:57,860
I've got a big list tonight.

887
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:58,700
So sideways.

888
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,220
And she knows more than Larry.

889
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,400
And I thought, but she doesn't.

890
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:03,420
You don't like Larry.

891
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Is that fair?

892
00:56:05,260 --> 00:56:07,820
I don't feel like Larry has any respect for me.

893
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:09,680
And I come to that.

894
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,060
Larry, you just laughed at me telling me how I did it.

895
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,600
I don't think she does that respect.

896
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:14,740
But here's the thing.

897
00:56:15,020 --> 00:56:15,380
I'm glad for talking.

898
00:56:15,620 --> 00:56:16,740
Yeah, I'm just glad.

899
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:17,680
I don't feel that way.

900
00:56:17,820 --> 00:56:19,860
I feel like for a while, I could call Larry and say,

901
00:56:19,860 --> 00:56:25,460
Here's what's going on and he would have my back that meeting those two meetings in a row or hell for me

902
00:56:25,460 --> 00:56:31,080
And I come to every meeting with a pit in my stomach that I'm afraid I'm gonna say something wrong and set one of you to off again

903
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,960
Well, and that is my honest film. You told me several times you want to quit

904
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:43,720
Why do you think that might be? Well, I'm trying to try to sort it out. Frank. You stood up over the table screaming at me at that meeting when I was I didn't stand up

905
00:56:44,380 --> 00:56:48,900
I sat right in this chair just like I did with that and I thought you were being unfair with Larry and

906
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:51,800
and Larry felt like he was getting ambushed.

907
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:53,540
And then it wasn't until after the meeting I found out

908
00:56:53,540 --> 00:56:55,340
you'd already called everybody but me and Larry.

909
00:56:56,060 --> 00:56:56,780
That's offensive.

910
00:56:57,780 --> 00:56:59,780
So I've had a hard time and I wanted to clear the air

911
00:56:59,780 --> 00:57:00,180
with you.

912
00:57:00,660 --> 00:57:01,360
Why didn't I get a call?

913
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:04,600
Because I felt like you and Larry had an outside

914
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,340
relationship that if I would-

915
00:57:06,340 --> 00:57:07,300
And then when we decided to bring Dax,

916
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,980
I needed like Dax because Larry and I liked him.

917
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,420
No, I didn't say I didn't like Dax.

918
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,580
I was worried about Dax's available time

919
00:57:14,580 --> 00:57:16,200
because he has a contractor business.

920
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,260
And that is what I brought up in the in the meetings about

921
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:26,280
Bringing on. You know, I talked everybody and I talked everybody you call and that's what came to me like

922
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:33,520
Why didn't you like me? I'm at Larry here. Let's think I might make you I met you might every and I'm more friends with Larry because

923
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:43,220
He was Ben's friend and Ben's my name, so that's why it's only difference in I absolutely think this needs me here in like a business because if we don't

924
00:57:43,220 --> 00:57:57,320
If we operate like a nonprofit, I get we get government money, but if we go and just say yeah, fuck it, we'll spend money on a shit that we need right now, like this system doesn't work, and you know that I know that.

925
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,020
Well, and I think we have to have a line of command of some sort.

926
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,720
I think you can do both. I think it can be business, but also.

927
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,900
We have to be we have to be both because

928
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,400
What we operate is

929
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,820
I see what lary sees I see we have a

930
00:58:15,340 --> 00:58:17,280
Lot of stuff that works. I think

931
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,480
A lot of money I hate to lose you because who's gonna take up that slack a lot of money

932
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:28,660
Well, and that's my conversation with Wendy like who we we are already down

933
00:58:28,660 --> 00:58:32,280
We already was coming back or is back or

934
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:40,240
But if we bring up this compliance stuff, then where does that leave us?

935
00:58:40,700 --> 00:58:44,520
And I appreciate all that you've done in the time that you put in.

936
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,460
I don't know enough to know everything that you do.

937
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,460
But in looking at my laws and different things.

938
00:58:53,800 --> 00:59:00,760
And honestly, this was, I want you from the bottom of my heart to know this was not vindictive against you.

939
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:08,780
when he has said multiple times she's like she searched for ways to be able to see if you could say she looked it

940
00:59:08,780 --> 00:59:14,740
She even counted up people and percentages and like did a ton because she

941
00:59:14,740 --> 00:59:21,220
Go back to the until everybody else at least that's what I talk. It's me or Larry. You got a fire Larry and she was open to fire Larry that night

942
00:59:21,220 --> 00:59:27,980
Which is it's a problem with me. I shouldn't do that. Did I say it's me or Larry in a phone call? I

943
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:28,980
Said it's me or Larry

944
00:59:28,980 --> 00:59:37,380
I don't. I don't. That's what I call them all. And I will tell me. And then you can talk to me about it.

945
00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:43,000
Kim, gosh, it was the way you did it. You didn't sit where I was. I talked to Kim about it as well.

946
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,760
And that's not what she said to me, but I did talk to her as well. And why she called?

947
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:56,460
You know, and I guess I guess the thing is, you know, after, after everything I tried to take out my own shoulders,

948
00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:57,840
and get the pressure out of you.

949
00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:59,580
You know, like I said,

950
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,060
All of a sudden, I said, I want you to report to brand, I'm financed, I want brand to come in and do audits and look at. So, Wendy, it's like the light went off. And then the next meeting, all of a sudden, you're very upset at me, we got into it. And, you know, you're calling me, like you said, you're calling me because everybody's upset with you, you're not answering your phone, you're not doing this and this, so then there's an argument. And I'm saying, Wendy, send them to me.

951
01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:35,300
don't take that on your own shoulders. I'll take all of this, the neighbors I've

952
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:39,720
talked to you about that said hey you know we can't get hold of anyone down at

953
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:45,760
the office. Tell me what's going on and I'll get I'll call Grant I'll get a

954
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:55,260
team care right and I was doing that because I thought me and you were like

955
01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:58,480
I connect it, and I'm trying everything I can to help you.

956
01:00:58,940 --> 01:01:04,580
You and Brent, being in our completely sideways, I wanted to have the meaning between you and

957
01:01:04,580 --> 01:01:06,780
Brent being in the night of the fire down.

958
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:12,840
When we all met at the high school, the high school up here, for the fire, Brent was ready

959
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,300
to quit.

960
01:01:13,780 --> 01:01:19,020
You didn't have a lot of good things to say about Brent, and I told Brent being the two people

961
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:20,120
that have to make this work.

962
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:22,140
You and Wendy.

963
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:24,440
I have to have you guys on the same page.

964
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:30,240
That night, Brent came up to me and the stands, he said, we don't need that meeting because

965
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,620
Wendy and I got worked up, you know, you pointed me in the right direction.

966
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:35,880
I'm what came out.

967
01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:38,740
Don't have a meeting with Brent or Wendy and I.

968
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,120
I said, are you sure?

969
01:01:40,700 --> 01:01:43,680
I said, because you two have to make this thing work, right?

970
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:51,180
But those were the type of steps that I was doing to show you that I had your back 100%

971
01:01:51,180 --> 01:01:58,440
whatever happened I was there to back you up to support you and then all of a sudden it's just like

972
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:04,540
and now all the arguments from the people that you were saying Colin you and want to come to

973
01:02:04,540 --> 01:02:10,760
your house and talk to you about Billine or whatever you know about how Mike Fisher and Bill and all

974
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:16,780
these guys are so mean and so upset with you and everything else I want to take on that responsibility

975
01:02:16,780 --> 01:02:23,660
But then lo and behold the very next meeting you come and the same things that you said about them is what you were seeing about me

976
01:02:23,660 --> 01:02:32,800
So did I take offense to I was pretty blindsided to be honest with you because I thought I thought we were connecting and I thought we were

977
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,900
Going to take this board and the right direction and start doing the right things and then

978
01:02:38,460 --> 01:02:42,940
The next month was even worse and then when you said you can't work with me

979
01:02:42,940 --> 01:02:47,820
You're not gonna take my phone calls and you think I'm like, well, then what are we doing?

980
01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:55,380
How do I how do we run this board if you want to be better and we want this free and it's not fun to come to meeting

981
01:02:55,380 --> 01:02:58,640
It's not fun. It's my least favorite day in a month. I don't want it to be

982
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:04,480
And if I'm not useful, then I don't want to be here. So I just that even Larry you're out for sure

983
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,680
You're there's no way you're staying. So now you have no dog in the hunt. So I hope it's just organizing

984
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:13,580
You know just give us your two cents worth here. I mean I'm not speaking for

985
01:03:13,580 --> 01:03:15,380
I hope you speak for a few more months.

986
01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:21,620
So we have a building that's being building and why would we not say okay we have the

987
01:03:21,620 --> 01:03:23,800
what was your title of coke?

988
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:29,240
It doesn't matter. Why would we not want somebody that was facilities manager?

989
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,400
Facilities manager?

990
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,860
We did buildings and operations.

991
01:03:33,860 --> 01:03:40,660
And then here's the other thing Wendy, this is not, I'm due attack and I'm sorry because

992
01:03:40,660 --> 01:03:44,800
I do, I have a short fuse, I know it, but I cool out just as fast.

993
01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:45,560
So here we are.

994
01:03:46,020 --> 01:03:49,980
I think the clerk needs to have office hours and you've told me several times you're never

995
01:03:49,980 --> 01:03:50,720
going to have office hours.

996
01:03:50,900 --> 01:03:54,720
You're not going to go to the office and have, you know, from 10 to noon be there.

997
01:03:55,220 --> 01:03:59,480
So it seems like, you know, maybe, I'm really sorry, but I feel like you guys are talking in

998
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,720
these absolutes that I don't remember how, I don't know.

999
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,300
No, I just said, I don't know what my hours would be.

1000
01:04:05,460 --> 01:04:08,280
And I did say I was hired to work from home.

1001
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,180
I don't know that I want to go sit in an office,

1002
01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:12,660
but not from nine to three years something like that.

1003
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:13,680
That would make it a lot harder,

1004
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,640
because I was hired to work from home.

1005
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,620
Do you think it's important for the clerk to have office?

1006
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,520
I have put office hours on my voice,

1007
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,740
but I'm like, you ask me to do.

1008
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,420
If you guys want me to have an in-office hours

1009
01:04:22,420 --> 01:04:25,780
when we have an actual office, then yeah, we could probably,

1010
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:29,620
but it's, like I said, I don't think sitting there for...

1011
01:04:29,620 --> 01:04:32,400
To be honest, I thought I wanted you to be the chairman board.

1012
01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:37,900
That's my idea was let's get a clerk to be a clerk and just figure out what the clerk

1013
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:38,420
duties are.

1014
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:39,520
You know everything.

1015
01:04:39,940 --> 01:04:41,100
I don't want you walking away.

1016
01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:43,280
I'd say you ought to be a board member, but it doesn't pay.

1017
01:04:43,660 --> 01:04:47,400
So if you paid like the clerk would you change it around?

1018
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,600
I don't want to be in an unpaid position and do this, no.

1019
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,100
And I don't think you can pay for how I go.

1020
01:04:55,660 --> 01:04:59,140
Right, but that's why I have taken all of it on, because I do get paid to do it.

1021
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,680
Yeah, but I don't get paid in here.

1022
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,000
I still take on a lot. I still have all the aggravation just I don't feel

1023
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,180
appreciated. I don't really feel useful here. So I think Larry does a lot more

1024
01:05:10,180 --> 01:05:16,820
than I do. You want to get him fired all the time. So let's let's let's let's let's

1025
01:05:16,820 --> 01:05:23,600
let's all off the table. Larry's gone. So mission accomplished. So now let's now what I did

1026
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:34,860
It's true, but let's try to just sort this out, but it's those kind of comments that I'm

1027
01:05:34,860 --> 01:05:35,240
going to.

1028
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,040
So you don't need to worry about me, even I don't have to be get along anymore.

1029
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:46,620
I'm not staying around any, either, based on this, Ray said he's gone to, so could you guys

1030
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:47,240
find a new board?

1031
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,260
Could you, you can probably pull together people that you like and from the other forwards and

1032
01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:58,100
people you can work with and but do you want our input on any of this stuff?

1033
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:06,920
Talk to you too. Do you want any input on any any knowledge I have maybe how

1034
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:14,380
how do you organize it cannot be snarky? Sure. Yeah. What's the chance? I mean you're

1035
01:06:14,380 --> 01:06:19,440
just as smart as I am. Well because I'm gonna put I'm not gonna let you know me

1036
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:27,080
You start. Okay, no. Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay, great. This is this is that's pick five. Yeah, this yeah, let's take do it

1037
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:35,460
That's you seem to be level had it in right right here the two level headed guys here. So through your ideas on it

1038
01:06:35,460 --> 01:06:39,220
This is switch gears for a minute. Okay. I don't really know shit happens in the board

1039
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,960
But it's operator update

1040
01:06:45,940 --> 01:06:47,780
So I went to test today

1041
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:54,680
control connection, so now the cross-control connection administrator for

1042
01:06:54,680 --> 01:07:05,360
Hannah and Tabby. I haven't built anybody for the time or the test or anything

1043
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:12,460
like that. I know that both have a hand needed, so. Is that what the CCC training

1044
01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:22,580
So those are the training hours. I did those. I didn't. But there's the time to take the test and then I paid the money to take the test.

1045
01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:32,600
It was like 340 bucks or something like that. So I know both system needs needs one. And so I don't know if we want to just split that with tabbie or how.

1046
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:41,240
Are they okay with splinter? I'm sure they would be. I mean, I talked to Terry and Terry said that he would split costs with us on.

1047
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:48,760
Yeah, I'm the by on that note when you we hired you this is just because you said when you got your certifications

1048
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:53,960
We were gonna give you the raise. Yeah, I've already taken them so I've already been building the thirty one dollars

1049
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:54,920
Okay

1050
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:01,640
Which is good when I did my when I got my services for operator certification this is the second

1051
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:08,080
Certification that's fair because we said that was yeah, so this is a separate certification, but still is important

1052
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:15,220
So, yeah, that's where we're at there, so we should be in compliance.

1053
01:08:15,460 --> 01:08:19,860
We probably won't, I haven't seen the authority of Statement.

1054
01:08:21,260 --> 01:08:22,440
We've got to know what that is.

1055
01:08:22,660 --> 01:08:24,600
It's a cross-connection authority statement.

1056
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,460
Oh, I saw the one you put for tabby.

1057
01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:29,180
They put it on a tabby Facebook page.

1058
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,680
Did you do one for Hannah too?

1059
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:31,980
I haven't done one for Hannah.

1060
01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:37,860
I didn't know if you or somebody else we had because, so the one that we had for

1061
01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:41,700
tab he was in their bylaws and it said they didn't have one but really what

1062
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:47,080
happened was the surveyor from the state came and the person that was shown

1063
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:53,360
around which was the old mayor they didn't quite see eye to eye and so the

1064
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:58,920
surveyors just like if you don't have one sorry so I think we have a template

1065
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:04,460
that they gave us for the Brent had been going to use or going but I don't know

1066
01:09:04,460 --> 01:09:05,920
that we have anything beyond that.

1067
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,140
Have you looked on Brent's Google drive

1068
01:09:08,140 --> 01:09:11,400
of the department that we need to have

1069
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,500
so there's an ordinance too?

1070
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:14,660
Do we have an ordinance?

1071
01:09:14,900 --> 01:09:15,580
I don't believe so.

1072
01:09:16,220 --> 01:09:17,760
OK, so we probably need to get an ordinance.

1073
01:09:20,180 --> 01:09:22,200
Sorry, will you say that again, what you call that,

1074
01:09:22,300 --> 01:09:24,600
but there's an authoritative statement in an ordinance.

1075
01:09:25,220 --> 01:09:29,080
And then we actually, anybody that's

1076
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,320
going to be on the board needs to have basic training

1077
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:40,680
of cross-connection and so that there's also a binder that I've made that needs to have

1078
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:47,780
pushed up put in. I mean it's not it's a hoop that the state's going to make us jump through but

1079
01:09:47,780 --> 01:09:50,420
it's also just to help protect our water source.

1080
01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:56,680
So is that the ordinance and the authority of

1081
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:04,020
That's a huge ordinance. There's a third-estatement. There's records, which is the binder and then there's

1082
01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:09,060
And that's where you bow out and check and mark on who you've checked and that. Yeah, we're supposed to check

1083
01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:16,260
There's any industrial connections, which we really don't have any people like four or five commercial but we don't have any

1084
01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:21,220
Industrial, but yeah, maybe one of the commercial ones. So we're supposed to check those and then

1085
01:10:21,220 --> 01:10:24,420
ongoing training, which is training the staff

1086
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,100
So what should be you guys?

1087
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,420
So is the cross-connection for like backflow?

1088
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:33,440
That's, yeah.

1089
01:10:33,980 --> 01:10:34,560
That's backflow.

1090
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:34,740
Okay.

1091
01:10:34,980 --> 01:10:40,060
So people have irrigation and culinary on their property should have a backflow, prevent

1092
01:10:40,060 --> 01:10:40,780
or and stuff.

1093
01:10:41,420 --> 01:10:41,880
Yeah.

1094
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:42,640
State report.

1095
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,780
So is that ordinance and the authoritative statement something you will write up?

1096
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,340
So then we put on our website or something.

1097
01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:57,300
I remember when Brent started on it before and he got a bunch of templates and I think I might have a copy of those

1098
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,920
But they're very basic

1099
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:05,560
Like I don't know if you want if you want those. I can send to you if you would if it's easier for you to do

1100
01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:14,400
And then do we just need to have it on our website and on the public

1101
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:19,540
So we're going to have it on our website and then we have to have ongoing

1102
01:11:19,540 --> 01:11:23,360
education. So if we can put a pamphlet, that's what I did with tabbues. I just

1103
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:29,740
haven't put a pamphlet in their bill. Okay. So just like a public awareness.

1104
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,400
Yeah, public awareness. And I think with our size we can do it. We can hang it in the

1105
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,780
post office and the Hannah store and I can put it on the post office. I don't think

1106
01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:41,920
we have to mail it to everybody. I just told them to do it because that's easy to

1107
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:47,640
track and it's like here's the mailer that went out so it was for them it was

1108
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,840
more of just a compliance thing as well because we're trying to stay in compliance

1109
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:59,340
with IPS points as well. Right okay if you want to when you get that the

1110
01:11:59,340 --> 01:12:02,620
ordinance and the thought of statement and the pamphlet I can upload it on the

1111
01:12:02,620 --> 01:12:06,660
website if you want me to do it that way. That's all I got.

1112
01:12:24,420 --> 01:12:25,560
I want me to go over the

1113
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,140
stuff I have.

1114
01:12:29,420 --> 01:12:32,280
So Gordon Moonshane and Eliza Rhodes, that's the

1115
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,920
delinquent account. I talked to him today again about transferring all the

1116
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,080
account back to him and basically explain to him our contract is with him, not

1117
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,780
Shane and Eliza, that the rental agreement has been kind of a courtesy and he

1118
01:12:45,780 --> 01:12:49,940
wants me to send out a 10-day notice and then we would shut him off in 10 days by

1119
01:12:49,940 --> 01:12:57,460
their request. Gordon Moon's like the property owner. Yeah, because remember we voted and said we'll

1120
01:12:57,460 --> 01:13:01,880
transfer it back to him. So he said if they don't, I said, well, what do you want me to do? Because

1121
01:13:02,620 --> 01:13:05,860
if we shut it off, it'd be shut off until he's, tell their.

1122
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:13,700
Brent Ipsens, is that what that one is? So I called Brent and he said he didn't find it.

1123
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:19,620
Oh, yeah. And I thought he, so I let Rusty know too. So he's, I think they're gonna

1124
01:13:19,940 --> 01:13:23,460
Just install it when they're ready for it because he's been he's been paying for a stand-by-feet

1125
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,600
So he just needs to have the meter installed. Did you sort out champions too?

1126
01:13:29,660 --> 01:13:31,020
I haven't done it yet, but

1127
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:38,620
Top of the year, we got the day, I found out. Yeah, well, I keep going over there one day

1128
01:13:39,180 --> 01:13:43,200
It's just in the dishwasher, so yeah, I know they did mention it. Yeah

1129
01:13:44,860 --> 01:13:49,360
Are they up by you? They're neighbors. My one neighbor's just starting to build it and they

1130
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,160
and I probably couldn't find this meter.

1131
01:13:53,060 --> 01:13:55,120
And then the other neighbor, they said it started to,

1132
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,780
they're just two people, and then they build up right up.

1133
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,460
So maybe the meter is defective.

1134
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:00,680
We're just gonna switch out that meter.

1135
01:14:01,060 --> 01:14:01,940
I don't think it's counting.

1136
01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:03,860
So I think there's something out of the meter,

1137
01:14:03,980 --> 01:14:07,000
because I turned on a bunch of their stuff one day,

1138
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,640
and just to see if it was counting, it's not.

1139
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:10,920
I don't think so.

1140
01:14:11,060 --> 01:14:13,420
I just need to replace it and switch out, and, okay.

1141
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:14,660
I don't know.

1142
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,400
I doubt that one's under warranty, so.

1143
01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:18,020
Yeah, I don't know.

1144
01:14:18,820 --> 01:14:21,420
But, uh, Kurt, whether it should be in a warranty?

1145
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,760
I would think so, it's not that old.

1146
01:14:24,260 --> 01:14:24,620
Yeah.

1147
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:25,900
Has it broken too?

1148
01:14:26,140 --> 01:14:26,800
Has it been counting?

1149
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:27,380
Did it?

1150
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:28,540
Oh, it's just not counting?

1151
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:28,880
Yeah.

1152
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,160
We turned all this stuff on too, and it's not spinning.

1153
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,760
I don't know for sure how long has it been in?

1154
01:14:35,340 --> 01:14:37,640
If it was in before he bought and built,

1155
01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:39,700
I'd have to look back to when his,

1156
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,320
or if he bought it from somebody that hadn't built,

1157
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:44,680
and it was already in the ground,

1158
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,000
it may be 20 years old.

1159
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:46,580
I don't know.

1160
01:14:46,580 --> 01:14:53,040
This is a radio resource. Oh, that's right. Yeah, so his would be new. The only other one that's right there is a

1161
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,100
Coral Bob. Oh, yeah

1162
01:15:02,270 --> 01:15:17,170
So back to moves. So they want me to turn it off. I told them how we do the delinquent. So if we turn them off, they have to pay before it can be turned back on. And I said, so, and he's like, well, I'm hoping that I'll spur them to pay it. But if not, he's like, well, pay it. And then

1163
01:15:30,050 --> 01:15:34,290
for the moon being paid, he'll be responsible for the monthly bill, and he'll have to work it out with them.

1164
01:15:35,790 --> 01:15:40,850
And then Don Nelson, their up in Snuckshrews, they had a leak when we turned on theirs.

1165
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:51,770
They used 235,000 gallons, they did, they had Dax turn it on, and then when they came out, it had been like five or six days, I don't know exactly.

1166
01:15:52,510 --> 01:15:58,030
But as soon as they found it, they fixed it, so she's asking for a partial forgiveness or some any help on her leak.

1167
01:15:58,030 --> 01:16:22,250
So the total bill was $8.5450, so if you do the $60 for regular usage and then if you did half of it like we've done before that would take off $397.25 and put her bill of $457, I told her I would ask you guys for partial forgiveness or any help that you could give her, but that's where I just did the calculation for the half of where we've been at,

1168
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,240
is that something you guys would consider.

1169
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,280
We don't need to do 50% if they get right on,

1170
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:30,860
which sounds like that's what they do.

1171
01:16:30,980 --> 01:16:31,460
Did they fix it?

1172
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,020
Yeah, they fix it like that next weekend when they came out.

1173
01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:36,460
And she called me right out or text me after and said,

1174
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,320
when we got out here over the weekend,

1175
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:39,260
we realized we had a leak.

1176
01:16:39,540 --> 01:16:40,780
We fixed it and I said, I don't know.

1177
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,160
I said, I won't know how much you used

1178
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:42,600
until we were the leader.

1179
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:43,700
So what we built up so much?

1180
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,160
I ate 150, 450 is the total.

1181
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:47,640
200, 300, 300, 300.

1182
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:49,780
So it would go down to 457.

1183
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:51,540
We'd have to have it six to like it, yeah, okay.

1184
01:16:51,660 --> 01:16:52,480
I didn't give her a number.

1185
01:16:52,540 --> 01:16:53,500
I told her I have to ask the board.

1186
01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:57,620
So I said they're they're usually pretty good to help especially where you guys got right on up

1187
01:16:57,620 --> 01:16:59,560
But I have to ask them so I didn't give any kind of

1188
01:17:00,420 --> 01:17:05,560
They're the ones at the very very end where you go through by Brenda van caught and then you keep going over

1189
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:12,900
It's Don Nelson and I can't pick up the other one's name, but yeah, they're clear back there in the corner

1190
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:16,500
Yeah, right your thoughts

1191
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:18,600
Oh, it's down in the past.

1192
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:19,820
Yeah, it's still steady.

1193
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:20,980
Yeah, it's steady with it.

1194
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:21,900
So, get in first place.

1195
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:22,400
So, as we go.

1196
01:17:22,860 --> 01:17:23,020
Okay.

1197
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:25,180
I'll second.

1198
01:17:25,480 --> 01:17:25,740
Okay.

1199
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:26,480
About

1200
01:17:30,740 --> 01:17:32,840
a mile probably be leaking in a month or something.

1201
01:17:34,220 --> 01:17:39,200
Should we add that to, like, some sort of, like,

1202
01:17:40,300 --> 01:17:43,700
codex or something, or it's like, hey, if you have a week,

1203
01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:45,220
it's astronomical.

1204
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,280
Because right now, it's like, this is what we've done in the past

1205
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,260
and we all know that we're from the past, but I think that we've got to find in a couple

1206
01:17:54,260 --> 01:17:57,800
of years when we can't be inconsistent. We've got to be consistent.

1207
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:03,180
I think the only reason why we didn't say, we'll put it out of policy, is because we did

1208
01:18:03,180 --> 01:18:07,620
it case by case, and case people didn't fix it right away. We didn't want to just say,

1209
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,700
yeah, if you let this go for three months, we'll still take it to push that off.

1210
01:18:11,860 --> 01:18:13,780
We can say that, too. You have to address it.

1211
01:18:13,780 --> 01:18:21,660
But then that's what we said is if they get right on the fix it, right, then we'll help them do it if they prolong and mess around

1212
01:18:21,660 --> 01:18:25,060
That we don't and sometimes we don't read the meters in the winter if it's too much snow

1213
01:18:25,060 --> 01:18:27,600
So sometimes it could be a astronomical number

1214
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:35,520
Yeah, so then we should be getting away from it. That's winter. By rights. We shouldn't have everything switched over to

1215
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,340
That was then you'll read them all so that then they'll get ready

1216
01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:43,940
He doesn't have to touch the top, so if they're covered in snow, he doesn't read them.

1217
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,320
And you can know if there's a leak before six months or three hours.

1218
01:18:49,340 --> 01:18:51,060
That was something I wondered about.

1219
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:56,180
If we could maybe schedule like so many per week or per month or something like that.

1220
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,760
Yeah, so the idea here, yeah, I've got kind of a schedule work out on it.

1221
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:07,540
The idea is to get them all done before the snow flies.

1222
01:19:07,540 --> 01:19:16,600
is some of them do take a lot more time to take them completely out and dive down the

1223
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:17,760
whole other's you're fairly easy.

1224
01:19:18,140 --> 01:19:21,960
The other the only thing I'm thinking is it's I know it's extra work because you have

1225
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,860
to send me their last meet a read the new number and everything.

1226
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:30,180
Then I have to update them for the billing system and change the update their meters so they're

1227
01:19:30,180 --> 01:19:31,100
staggered it's great.

1228
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:31,840
Yeah.

1229
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:32,800
You want me done before.

1230
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,340
No, we definitely need to get them done.

1231
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,640
The other thing that is going to take up time is we're

1232
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:45,420
going to get the Latin launch for every meter and put it into the

1233
01:19:45,420 --> 01:19:45,760
building.

1234
01:19:46,260 --> 01:19:48,760
And then we'll have more described.

1235
01:19:49,220 --> 01:19:51,860
We'll know it's at about five to ten feet of where meters are

1236
01:19:51,860 --> 01:19:56,740
so the next person that we trained to know where all the meters

1237
01:19:56,740 --> 01:19:57,220
are out.

1238
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:58,240
They can go back.

1239
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,680
Did you see that the GIS is working again?

1240
01:20:00,980 --> 01:20:01,620
Did you see that email?

1241
01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:08,340
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what was wrong with it, but I called him after the last meeting and he

1242
01:20:08,340 --> 01:20:15,040
So there's a letter attached to your

1243
01:20:15,620 --> 01:20:16,860
four-member staff

1244
01:20:16,860 --> 01:20:22,460
Nate Zillis from New Bag over in Roosevelt called me and asked about

1245
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:27,180
So they're doing a project and they want

1246
01:20:27,180 --> 01:20:40,120
They want, they're requesting for water boards and stuff to submit their GIS, basically so they can make a master GIS that shows where all water lines go.

1247
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:49,080
And he said it's basically for training and for a visual and training and things to show to people so that they can show a full infrastructure in the basin.

1248
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,300
doesn't have anything to do with the data center does it?

1249
01:20:52,300 --> 01:20:52,980
I don't know.

1250
01:20:53,420 --> 01:20:55,920
I asked him, I said,

1251
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,700
I just said, is this a requirement?

1252
01:21:01,140 --> 01:21:02,520
And he said, no, it's not a requirement.

1253
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:04,680
And I said, why, I said, we do,

1254
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,320
because he's like, do you guys have one?

1255
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:07,380
I said, yeah, we have one.

1256
01:21:07,420 --> 01:21:08,560
It's being updated right now.

1257
01:21:08,660 --> 01:21:10,720
But I said, I can't send you anything

1258
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:11,920
until I get board approval.

1259
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:13,980
And he's a kind of a standard,

1260
01:21:14,020 --> 01:21:15,380
and I said, is this a requirement?

1261
01:21:15,460 --> 01:21:17,700
Is this any kind of a state requirement or just a request?

1262
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:23,290
and he said, it's just a request and I said, OK, and he sent me this letter so that you guys could read it and

1263
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:24,660
and say

1264
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,820
see what he's explaining

1265
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:28,960
but it's

1266
01:21:30,980 --> 01:21:31,980
it seems

1267
01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:36,480
we're going to redrop the water flowing in the next five years

1268
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:38,360
here 100% water

1269
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:39,780
yeah, it's up to

1270
01:21:39,780 --> 01:21:42,180
we don't want lots of money for our gays

1271
01:21:50,440 --> 01:21:53,200
I'm kind of a don't share the information we don't have to.

1272
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,100
So when he said it wasn't a requirement, I was like, well,

1273
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:02,800
I went

1274
01:22:07,630 --> 01:22:08,910
to a training last

1275
01:22:08,910 --> 01:22:14,630
week at the Capitol and someone just happened to bring it up in the meeting that they asked

1276
01:22:14,630 --> 01:22:22,370
about because it was sort of like state auditors and stuff that presented it about changing

1277
01:22:22,370 --> 01:22:25,950
the name of your special service district and I wondered if you want to you guys want to be

1278
01:22:25,950 --> 01:22:29,410
look into what it takes. Basic you have to go through the lieutenant governor's office,

1279
01:22:29,930 --> 01:22:34,670
but if we wanted to change the name and actually drop the answer we're off officially

1280
01:22:35,410 --> 01:22:39,830
or if it matters, if that's something you guys want me to look into what it would take.

1281
01:22:40,590 --> 01:22:44,130
I hope that we go to sewer someday so I don't know that it's necessary that.

1282
01:22:44,510 --> 01:22:44,770
Okay.

1283
01:22:45,150 --> 01:22:48,710
There's been that way since the beginning and we can't even use it on a lot of other things

1284
01:22:48,710 --> 01:22:53,690
would you say on a water? Right. What do you think it's necessary? I don't know.

1285
01:22:53,850 --> 01:22:57,430
Yeah. What do you think? Well, I think it's probably more work than it's worth

1286
01:22:57,430 --> 01:23:01,570
if, eventually, we're working toward that. We hope that the super system

1287
01:23:01,570 --> 01:23:03,030
someday, it seems like we would.

1288
01:23:06,830 --> 01:23:10,870
And then with DAX and bring this up, but DAX

1289
01:23:10,870 --> 01:23:16,590
asked me for a price on a meter can to sell to Taviona out of our stock. I just

1290
01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:21,830
We better get a vote before we sell anything to them. I think anything you the tabby wants if we have access

1291
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:26,550
We sell them at our cost that seem reasonable. Don't do it. Should we make some money on it?

1292
01:23:26,770 --> 01:23:32,050
So if we sell our costs, we've already been sitting on these things for a long time. Yeah, imagine they were appreciated

1293
01:23:33,230 --> 01:23:35,290
Okay, we did get a current price

1294
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:43,530
Yeah, a big placement. Yeah, so we'll start yeah, so we'll sell some replacement price that makes sense and so

1295
01:23:44,030 --> 01:23:45,970
and we still have but $22.

1296
01:23:46,530 --> 01:23:46,710
$22?

1297
01:23:46,710 --> 01:23:47,030
No, cheese?

1298
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:48,570
When I said cost, I mean,

1299
01:23:48,850 --> 01:23:49,910
what is cost?

1300
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:50,070
What is cost?

1301
01:23:50,250 --> 01:23:50,890
We get it in the daily life.

1302
01:23:51,550 --> 01:23:52,030
It's like it.

1303
01:23:52,770 --> 01:23:54,010
We don't have to make my money.

1304
01:23:54,230 --> 01:23:54,530
Like I saw it saying,

1305
01:23:54,650 --> 01:23:56,130
I'm not going to lie to not leave you.

1306
01:23:57,150 --> 01:23:57,930
Yeah, that's right.

1307
01:23:58,750 --> 01:23:59,590
We've got, so,

1308
01:23:59,770 --> 01:24:02,430
because we're getting a new building, hopefully,

1309
01:24:03,070 --> 01:24:05,050
and we're going to have a ton of shit

1310
01:24:05,050 --> 01:24:06,690
that doesn't have a home,

1311
01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:08,610
and it's going to get thrown away anyway.

1312
01:24:08,930 --> 01:24:11,150
So, those obviously won't throw away,

1313
01:24:11,150 --> 01:24:15,670
but they're giant, and it's an asset that's just sitting there.

1314
01:24:16,370 --> 01:24:19,690
I mean, my land and those have always said, let us be your warehouse.

1315
01:24:20,230 --> 01:24:23,190
Well, those do take like, when did I take four months?

1316
01:24:24,030 --> 01:24:24,390
Yeah.

1317
01:24:24,770 --> 01:24:27,990
When he said there are four months for it out on those,

1318
01:24:28,350 --> 01:24:30,450
so we wouldn't want to go down to nothing on those.

1319
01:24:30,970 --> 01:24:32,930
Yeah, but we definitely don't need 22 of them.

1320
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:34,890
We might not want to go down to nothing on them,

1321
01:24:34,890 --> 01:24:36,870
but if we have one on hand,

1322
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:43,710
Well, I mean that's probably the only thing I think is common sense and it's good management

1323
01:24:43,710 --> 01:24:47,530
because I mean there's actually no reason why we should be sitting on those.

1324
01:24:48,090 --> 01:24:50,850
Mountain lands will have me to us the next day.

1325
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:57,490
If you've got one or two for like Saturday or weekend emergencies, that was the goal and

1326
01:24:57,490 --> 01:24:59,390
then let mountain land be our way out.

1327
01:24:59,610 --> 01:25:04,590
Because I mean for like for instance if we're doing another expansion that needs you know

1328
01:25:04,590 --> 01:25:05,590
10 cans.

1329
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:15,290
Right. They're not going to take orders. No, so yeah. And then, like I deliver the water samples

1330
01:25:15,290 --> 01:25:21,490
and right now I'm delivering them for us and Taviona. Yeah. Like going, well first of all,

1331
01:25:21,490 --> 01:25:27,210
do you guys want to vote for the selling materials to Taviona if you're okay with that? So I have

1332
01:25:27,210 --> 01:25:30,030
have a record of that. Do they want more than one?

1333
01:25:30,730 --> 01:25:32,110
Right, that's what you're doing.

1334
01:25:32,730 --> 01:25:33,890
Come on, fight. You want five?

1335
01:25:35,150 --> 01:25:36,310
I propose we do.

1336
01:25:37,090 --> 01:25:40,370
If we have access in the poor, we have to be able to sell it

1337
01:25:40,370 --> 01:25:41,330
at our replacement cost.

1338
01:25:41,490 --> 01:25:42,330
To make some money out of it.

1339
01:25:42,490 --> 01:25:42,890
To the warehouse.

1340
01:25:43,470 --> 01:25:43,630
Yeah.

1341
01:25:44,150 --> 01:25:44,210
Yeah.

1342
01:25:44,810 --> 01:25:45,810
I'll second it.

1343
01:25:49,330 --> 01:25:54,270
Okay, and then, so I mentioned it to Jenny when I just ran

1344
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:57,390
into her post office about splitting my mileage on the days

1345
01:25:57,390 --> 01:26:02,170
that I take both. And that would go along with like the materials. Yes.

1346
01:26:02,890 --> 01:26:07,530
Also, tabby springs, they're willing to split mileage to whether it's

1347
01:26:07,530 --> 01:26:12,410
mirrored. So I just wonder if we want to do something where like I charge it.

1348
01:26:12,750 --> 01:26:18,310
It's charged on my reimbursement, but do we want to invoice them separately and

1349
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:21,410
then just have them pay hand of water? Then it's a reimbursement.

1350
01:26:21,410 --> 01:26:25,390
And you're salarying and ease hourly. Is that one? Is that something you want to do?

1351
01:26:25,390 --> 01:26:29,350
I just think it's easier for them, like if we sell materials.

1352
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:32,790
I'm not taking water samples in some of this stuff.

1353
01:26:33,770 --> 01:26:35,910
Yeah, I just charge mileage when I pick it up.

1354
01:26:35,950 --> 01:26:37,790
Before I was going to say I go back and forth,

1355
01:26:37,970 --> 01:26:40,190
because I have clients that sell like I've got to go anyway.

1356
01:26:40,330 --> 01:26:40,410
Right.

1357
01:26:41,230 --> 01:26:43,350
You can take four or just not far from, you know,

1358
01:26:43,470 --> 01:26:44,430
I've got my rental property.

1359
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:45,250
Yeah.

1360
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:47,910
So whatever, it's just trying to save time.

1361
01:26:48,270 --> 01:26:50,510
So far it's worked out, I just reach out to DAX

1362
01:26:50,510 --> 01:26:52,590
and say when I can take it and we've worked out.

1363
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:52,930
Okay.

1364
01:26:52,930 --> 01:26:53,010
Okay.

1365
01:26:53,770 --> 01:26:58,370
It works out so far, so I mean, you guys sort of got that, sort of got that.

1366
01:26:58,610 --> 01:27:04,550
We just need to check with, we need to, it's just on Wendy's end, how she wants to

1367
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:04,870
be built.

1368
01:27:05,170 --> 01:27:09,530
I guess that's why I'm asking, rather than having them pay me a partial of the mileage,

1369
01:27:10,210 --> 01:27:15,430
are you guys okay if I put it on my reimbursement and then have them pay Hannah water for my,

1370
01:27:15,530 --> 01:27:20,370
half of my mileage or now a third of the mileage, whatever that is, or do you want me to separate

1371
01:27:20,370 --> 01:27:21,290
it and have them?

1372
01:27:21,290 --> 01:27:26,370
It's all the same. What's easier for you because it's net net for us. It's probably easier to

1373
01:27:26,370 --> 01:27:33,090
invoice them because then it's kind of a clean separation and also then like if they do buy

1374
01:27:33,090 --> 01:27:38,730
the meter can I can put an invoice you know when these mileage is much and the and the materials on

1375
01:27:38,730 --> 01:27:43,370
us invoice for them and then they just pay down a water yeah the way you'd like to do it. I think

1376
01:27:43,370 --> 01:27:48,190
that probably be the cleanest way to make it look right. Whatever's easier for you I would suggest because

1377
01:27:48,190 --> 01:27:52,670
don't make any more extra work for it it's the same for us the bottom line is the

1378
01:27:52,670 --> 01:27:55,950
same. Yeah I mean it's the same I'll work really too she's the matter of

1379
01:27:55,950 --> 01:28:00,010
cleaning the books up you're invoicing you're making two invoices

1380
01:28:00,010 --> 01:28:04,310
anywhere you're making one from maybe instead of or one from Hannah Waters sort

1381
01:28:04,310 --> 01:28:10,990
of yeah so I can talk to Jenny for the Taviona stuff I don't know who the

1382
01:28:10,990 --> 01:28:16,930
contact is. Jimmy Bell and I'll get all of her information for him. Are you doing

1383
01:28:16,930 --> 01:28:18,190
and then work up there for those guys, no?

1384
01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:21,110
Yeah, they're up shit's Greek.

1385
01:28:21,690 --> 01:28:22,470
What do they got five?

1386
01:28:23,470 --> 01:28:24,690
They don't have any hookups.

1387
01:28:24,990 --> 01:28:28,470
The problem is, is they're way out of compliance.

1388
01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:31,410
So they're like,

1389
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:33,450
but I didn't know that until today.

1390
01:28:33,690 --> 01:28:34,650
200 plus points.

1391
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:36,870
Oh, yeah, I could go five or something like that.

1392
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:38,310
Oh geez, I don't know.

1393
01:28:38,490 --> 01:28:39,730
I didn't know that until today,

1394
01:28:40,050 --> 01:28:40,890
but I haven't, like,

1395
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:43,090
I haven't signed a contract or anything with them.

1396
01:28:43,170 --> 01:28:45,690
I just was like, yeah, let me take a look at some things

1397
01:28:45,690 --> 01:28:51,810
and I want to talk with Nate who's kind of my mentor or water and he was like yeah they're on the

1398
01:28:51,810 --> 01:28:52,350
shuttle list.

1399
01:28:54,830 --> 01:29:00,410
So do you want me to just not send the GIS information then for now?

1400
01:29:02,420 --> 01:29:03,280
On this, on

1401
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:07,840
the UBAC staff, if it's not a requirement, don't give him the information.

1402
01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:12,560
I'm using to not give him the

1403
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:18,420
information? I mean if we have to see if there's fish for water for sure so we don't want to get

1404
01:29:18,420 --> 01:29:23,080
any more information needs out. And our GIS shows where all the lines are it doesn't have all the

1405
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,980
hookups. Because we're not using all our water either but that doesn't even need to let them know

1406
01:29:26,980 --> 01:29:31,120
where I'm using all our water. Well our lease is our supposed to show that we use all our water

1407
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,260
because we lease the extra but it still makes me nervous same thing. Because I would like to make

1408
01:29:35,260 --> 01:29:40,740
them think that we were using everything. And if they know it's going down river to someone else

1409
01:29:43,700 --> 01:29:55,720
We're supposed to don't we have a water inventory sheet that's supposed to be filled out over here the water survey. Yeah, March 30th or yeah, I'm sorry. I'm thinking here she

1410
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,860
don't. So I did it from the furniture, you're going to think you know what it was.

1411
01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:08,900
And then they're going to start digging into it themselves. So I don't, you know, I don't know. I don't think there's any harm of sharing information with them.

1412
01:30:11,220 --> 01:30:28,640
And what was the, what did they say? He said they want it for like trainings. So it shows on it. He says it on the bottom of the thing. If you'd be, if you'd be interested in, we just want to know if you'd be interested in sharing the information and coming to their quarterly meeting.

1413
01:30:30,140 --> 01:30:40,060
Well, if it's not, yeah, I mean if they're not asking as a, you know, to do then just say no, we don't have time to share information.

1414
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:47,280
It just says this is not a requirement issued by the state, however due to the serious lack of water and the need to share up our local area water resources.

1415
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:52,040
We feel that although it may not be required, it's vital and essential for our current future needs.

1416
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:56,100
So it does sound like they're looking for extra water to go other places.

1417
01:30:57,440 --> 01:31:00,120
but it's a great Salt Lake in the New Data Center.

1418
01:31:00,820 --> 01:31:03,560
They got to get 20 million gallons a day from somewhere.

1419
01:31:08,820 --> 01:31:09,980
That's a ton of water.

1420
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:11,460
There's a lot of water.

1421
01:31:11,660 --> 01:31:13,320
That's a new way, I think.

1422
01:31:15,580 --> 01:31:16,780
Box-dollar, can I?

1423
01:31:17,340 --> 01:31:18,520
Well, box-dollar and here.

1424
01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:19,060
Yeah.

1425
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:21,240
The one here is supposed to be smaller, right?

1426
01:31:21,660 --> 01:31:23,100
That's what I heard a lot about this thing.

1427
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:26,900
So no, don't send it for now.

1428
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:33,260
it's it's a double-leg sword because they also they could be a resource to help

1429
01:31:33,260 --> 01:31:38,800
us save it you know if we're part of their coalition if you will then we

1430
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,280
maybe have people to help support us from them trying to take the water away from

1431
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:48,280
us but unless they're trying to take it yeah and they're not gonna tell you to do it

1432
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:53,260
yeah and so it's kind of just like that thing over on 40 yeah but those guys over

1433
01:31:53,260 --> 01:31:58,140
there is like they came out with no information they wanted all the

1434
01:31:58,140 --> 01:32:03,940
water and weren't willing to do anything to improve our infrastructure and then they

1435
01:32:03,940 --> 01:32:09,780
said that they are just going to get water I would start with something like this to

1436
01:32:09,780 --> 01:32:13,680
say they would put this together put all this stuff together and they could see where it's

1437
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:19,400
available right so I would be nervous given them anything I would be nice and say it will bring

1438
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,340
to the board and we think we can pull something together the next year or so I mean we're

1439
01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:24,640
We're not going to do so now.

1440
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,860
We just fire our head to chairman of the board.

1441
01:32:27,420 --> 01:32:28,420
So I don't know some of that.

1442
01:32:29,580 --> 01:32:30,780
So hold on to it for now.

1443
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,560
But you have to point it out so we need to go.

1444
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,140
This says a staff member and a board member

1445
01:32:36,140 --> 01:32:37,440
to attend their board meeting.

1446
01:32:37,820 --> 01:32:38,400
I saw that.

1447
01:32:38,620 --> 01:32:40,560
And that's what I've been trying to do all night.

1448
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,160
I like a staff member and a board member to go.

1449
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,320
So the board feels like they're doing something.

1450
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:44,460
Yeah.

1451
01:32:45,260 --> 01:32:48,240
I think that would be good to go and attend this

1452
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,900
and find out some information before we share.

1453
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,940
and then just say yeah we're willing to do it we don't have all that

1454
01:32:54,940 --> 01:32:58,300
information yet but we'll send a board member and a staff member to your

1455
01:32:58,300 --> 01:33:02,660
meetings and maybe get information from them. Yeah I think it has a schedule

1456
01:33:02,660 --> 01:33:07,500
anywhere. I didn't see anything on here and it's not in like the body of the

1457
01:33:07,500 --> 01:33:10,640
email that he sent before that so they're friendly back and just

1458
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:18,810
just as quarterly meetings. Right. I'll ask about the meeting schedule. Yeah I think

1459
01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:22,990
I think that would be the way to go, attend that, see what's going on in your field.

1460
01:33:23,150 --> 01:33:26,710
And then just say you're always happy to give you the information as it comes back.

1461
01:33:27,670 --> 01:33:39,490
Okay, the last thing is the impact fees, same thing kind of given some misinformation.

1462
01:33:40,190 --> 01:33:45,610
So we charge so much for a hook up and then we put so much into it as a hook up fee and

1463
01:33:45,610 --> 01:33:47,430
and then so much into it as an impact fee.

1464
01:33:48,130 --> 01:33:50,790
And the way I was trained about impact fees is,

1465
01:33:51,470 --> 01:33:55,270
as long as you show that that money's going back into your system, you can charge impact fees.

1466
01:33:55,850 --> 01:33:59,250
So we went through the increase, increased it to $15,000.

1467
01:34:00,290 --> 01:34:03,770
But now I'm finding out it can't be for any kind of operations and maintenance.

1468
01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:08,110
It has to be specifically to a project.

1469
01:34:09,330 --> 01:34:15,110
To be able to charge anything above the cost of all the components of a meter.

1470
01:34:15,110 --> 01:34:24,090
install and the labor and everything else so I'm I have I've talked to again I've

1471
01:34:24,090 --> 01:34:29,050
talked to multiple people and it's all Utah code so it's like 40 pages of

1472
01:34:29,050 --> 01:34:36,270
here's what you can charge impact fees for but if you could get me like a list of

1473
01:34:36,270 --> 01:34:42,230
every component that could potentially go into a meter install so we so I can get

1474
01:34:42,230 --> 01:34:47,790
the total with cost if you have it, if not all, look parts up or whatever, but every single thing

1475
01:34:47,790 --> 01:34:53,110
and then I'll add in like Rusty's and like a couple hours of your time on it. So if we can get

1476
01:34:53,110 --> 01:35:00,050
anything that could potentially go into it for a cost and then we have to do it, I have to do an

1477
01:35:00,050 --> 01:35:05,290
impact and they've changed it the last year in at the end of 2024 and that's why it's an issue now.

1478
01:35:05,290 --> 01:35:25,530
You have to do an impact fee report and it has to show where you use the funds exactly and if you still have the funds in your account what they're going to what they're earmarked for any interest that you've gained on that amount and and I don't know.

1479
01:35:25,530 --> 01:35:31,470
Do we have samples of other people because so they so they gave me at that training

1480
01:35:31,470 --> 01:35:37,010
I went to last week and just so you know on that training they it's a compliance training and I actually got an email

1481
01:35:37,010 --> 01:35:41,670
It said board members have asked to come to this and we just want to make sure you guys know this is not a board member training

1482
01:35:41,670 --> 01:35:49,490
This is only for clerks and other things, but that they gave me some references at that. That was just this last week and

1483
01:35:50,530 --> 01:35:52,510
there is a

1484
01:35:52,510 --> 01:35:59,910
A lady there that she's like, I know this is horrible, but she put up a spreadsheet as a potential example.

1485
01:36:00,990 --> 01:36:06,290
But she's supposed to be sending me an example for a water company because it was like a whole city thing,

1486
01:36:06,370 --> 01:36:07,590
so it showed road stuff, everything.

1487
01:36:07,590 --> 01:36:08,490
Is there public information?

1488
01:36:08,650 --> 01:36:10,630
Could we just find it like the impact fee stuff?

1489
01:36:10,630 --> 01:36:16,070
Like who's charging 30 grand for, for, for, uh, because I didn't do those.

1490
01:36:16,390 --> 01:36:18,630
Is it, is there a debate I would have been?

1491
01:36:18,630 --> 01:36:25,330
So I don't know if it's that they can prove they have enough projects to take the difference and I told them I said

1492
01:36:25,330 --> 01:36:31,390
Well, we've been doing this expansion for four years now almost like I can show for four years that we put all this stuff in

1493
01:36:31,390 --> 01:36:33,890
It took more of our operators time. It's taking more my time

1494
01:36:33,890 --> 01:36:37,030
We can put that in and he's like, okay, so you should be good

1495
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:44,510
But you know how people ask me pretty exact so we can show that we need to expand but we can't we know when we can afford to and I told them

1496
01:36:44,510 --> 01:36:45,490
I told him that as well.

1497
01:36:45,650 --> 01:36:48,950
I said, we're in a position and it was a guy from the state and I said, we have such

1498
01:36:48,950 --> 01:36:53,410
a large area and so so few hookups to be able to expand it all.

1499
01:36:53,650 --> 01:36:57,750
We can't just charge cost or we'll never have enough money to help additional customers.

1500
01:36:58,750 --> 01:37:00,850
And he's like, yeah, I get that.

1501
01:37:01,170 --> 01:37:03,130
Can we use like our fill station?

1502
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:04,310
I don't know.

1503
01:37:04,430 --> 01:37:05,430
I'm going to ask her that.

1504
01:37:05,550 --> 01:37:08,650
Because we're trying to say those that can't, we can't get to a line to them.

1505
01:37:08,650 --> 01:37:09,830
They can still come fill up.

1506
01:37:10,110 --> 01:37:12,930
We're trying to get, we're trying to keep clean water as many people as we can.

1507
01:37:12,930 --> 01:37:17,750
So the lady I talked to at the training that works for the state that's over the impact

1508
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:18,110
fees.

1509
01:37:18,330 --> 01:37:22,010
She's supposed to send me some more information and then I asked her once I get that information

1510
01:37:22,010 --> 01:37:24,450
if we could have a call and kind of go over some of the options.

1511
01:37:24,730 --> 01:37:29,790
Because I called Utah, they gave me a referral at Utah Association of Special Districts who

1512
01:37:29,790 --> 01:37:30,570
helps with it.

1513
01:37:30,870 --> 01:37:33,830
And I was like, is there anything that shows like a list?

1514
01:37:34,410 --> 01:37:37,470
Like I've got 40 pages of Utah code on impact fees.

1515
01:37:37,730 --> 01:37:41,290
Is there anything that says, you know, water companies can use it for this or anything

1516
01:37:41,290 --> 01:37:46,530
that consolidates this seems like we need to be able to justify it seems reasonable because it's

1517
01:37:46,530 --> 01:37:50,730
weird that you can't maintain the lines with that yeah because we can't do it on monthly building

1518
01:37:50,730 --> 01:37:56,790
and I told him that I said I was told when I asked about impact fees because for a while I thought

1519
01:37:56,790 --> 01:38:02,190
we were going to be able to stop reporting impact fees because he called me last year told me all

1520
01:38:02,190 --> 01:38:07,790
about it and then he says your impact fee he called me because our impact fee report and I said well

1521
01:38:07,790 --> 01:38:11,930
I think I just need to fill out the documentation to say we don't need to do an impact fee report.

1522
01:38:12,190 --> 01:38:13,650
I think the way he explained it, I don't have to.

1523
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:16,470
And then he's like, well, what about this is this and I was like,

1524
01:38:16,570 --> 01:38:19,790
because we're also required to have a second source of water in another tank.

1525
01:38:20,030 --> 01:38:20,690
Can we use that?

1526
01:38:21,710 --> 01:38:22,570
I hope so.

1527
01:38:23,010 --> 01:38:23,990
Because we need to do that.

1528
01:38:24,190 --> 01:38:27,150
I guess I'm kind of just giving you guys a heads up that this is like.

1529
01:38:28,330 --> 01:38:28,950
I don't know.

1530
01:38:29,230 --> 01:38:32,310
They did tell me if you can't justify it, you need to refund the difference.

1531
01:38:32,990 --> 01:38:35,750
And I was like, we are going to be in a full position.

1532
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:39,190
Let's make sure we justify it, but it seems like we got to be able to justify it.

1533
01:38:39,230 --> 01:38:44,070
We're such a, we're exactly the role model of they need to help us out, try to get fresh

1534
01:38:44,070 --> 01:38:44,630
water to pee.

1535
01:38:44,730 --> 01:38:48,510
Yeah, but I just so you know a lot somewhere I've been working on.

1536
01:38:48,830 --> 01:38:52,570
So I'm supposed to be, like I said, I'll get that report from her that's actually specific

1537
01:38:52,570 --> 01:38:59,690
to a water company to give me some ideas of the potential of how to do the report and some

1538
01:38:59,690 --> 01:39:03,910
of the things we can contribute our impact to these four.

1539
01:39:06,290 --> 01:39:12,890
but yeah, I it's kind of a work in progress until we figure out what we can charge for and I've

1540
01:39:12,890 --> 01:39:16,830
made it I've started making a list and I talked to the girl about it at the meeting and I said well

1541
01:39:16,830 --> 01:39:20,410
here's some of the stuff we've been working on and she said yeah you just got to get amounts and

1542
01:39:20,410 --> 01:39:24,410
submit it and say that's what they were going for. Well I suggest that we say we're going to expand

1543
01:39:24,410 --> 01:39:29,970
into this area when we get enough money and then pick an area. That's yeah and they just say I

1544
01:39:29,970 --> 01:39:34,350
somewhere as a point man that basically says that you just need to have a plan in place.

1545
01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:38,650
So we have a plan to expand into whatever subdivision doesn't have that.

1546
01:39:38,650 --> 01:39:40,230
Well the filling station might be.

1547
01:39:40,370 --> 01:39:42,730
The filling station seems to be the first one I have here.

1548
01:39:42,750 --> 01:39:47,530
We're already engineered to go up blind string, like that's on our GIS.

1549
01:39:48,070 --> 01:39:51,430
It was actually shown that it was there and then they realized they didn't end up putting

1550
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:51,750
them in.

1551
01:39:51,930 --> 01:39:53,090
But yeah, it goes up to the end.

1552
01:39:53,090 --> 01:39:55,350
So we're going to say we've already got this plan in place.

1553
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:56,090
Does that make sense?

1554
01:39:56,170 --> 01:39:59,310
Same thing with going up further up North Fork.

1555
01:39:59,310 --> 01:40:01,150
We've got the 8-inch line that serves Phoenix.

1556
01:40:01,850 --> 01:40:02,950
What's our master plan, Staya?

1557
01:40:03,090 --> 01:40:07,430
That guy has, the guy at BlindStream has asked me about the possibility of going up there.

1558
01:40:07,670 --> 01:40:10,550
And he said he would probably buy four or five hookups.

1559
01:40:11,210 --> 01:40:13,830
And then he says, and probably think the next development might go in.

1560
01:40:13,950 --> 01:40:14,070
Yeah.

1561
01:40:15,450 --> 01:40:16,710
North Fork's a good one.

1562
01:40:16,950 --> 01:40:19,270
We've got an 8-inch line that serves as one customer there.

1563
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:20,370
That's a win.

1564
01:40:21,550 --> 01:40:21,750
Nice.

1565
01:40:24,050 --> 01:40:27,450
Then I would say BlindStream eventually is going to be,

1566
01:40:27,450 --> 01:40:30,290
because there's going to be power going up there this year.

1567
01:40:30,510 --> 01:40:35,210
Well, there's still a ton of good tabby on tabby road going up there,

1568
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:36,650
where we just finished that project.

1569
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:37,410
Where we stopped.

1570
01:40:37,550 --> 01:40:40,270
I think that guy wants to develop...

1571
01:40:40,270 --> 01:40:41,350
At Tabby Swell, you know.

1572
01:40:41,350 --> 01:40:43,470
20 something homes up there.

1573
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:45,510
Yeah, there's Tabby Swell,

1574
01:40:45,650 --> 01:40:47,990
and there's on top of the tabby mountain, too.

1575
01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:50,330
Who is it that wants to on Tabby Mountain?

1576
01:40:50,810 --> 01:40:51,630
I don't know his name.

1577
01:40:52,170 --> 01:40:54,390
Is it the guy with all the property right above it?

1578
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:54,690
Yeah,

1579
01:40:56,970 --> 01:40:56,970
it was.

1580
01:40:56,970 --> 01:41:00,570
Because when we call them and we're like hey we can go into your properties like nope

1581
01:41:00,570 --> 01:41:03,590
I got all the water I need I don't want I don't want anything

1582
01:41:05,050 --> 01:41:09,870
Maybe it's hit hard times now you realize and you get a cell some property off because he wouldn't sign an easement

1583
01:41:09,870 --> 01:41:14,950
Or anything to have it go up further to access his property. He said I've got so much friends on my property

1584
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:15,810
I don't ever need water

1585
01:41:17,970 --> 01:41:21,270
But I didn't I hadn't heard anything about him developing it so

1586
01:41:28,590 --> 01:41:33,830
Actually, I'm a little bit underwhelmed with our booster station, because you can't go over

1587
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:40,770
125, and that's still my home's place that gets water, like two years' door.

1588
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:45,930
That's it. That's as far as we can push up the hills online.

1589
01:41:47,810 --> 01:41:54,090
It's good. It works really good for that area, and I mean, the primary use of it, I think,

1590
01:41:54,090 --> 01:42:00,190
could be fire suppression but that's like okay so what's the PSI when it gets to

1591
01:42:00,190 --> 01:42:04,070
his house? That's where we're at. It's just barely.

1592
01:42:06,490 --> 01:42:10,110
He's got like six at his door what

1593
01:42:10,110 --> 01:42:15,090
he's fine with because he's like well yeah I think he's like a master plumber so

1594
01:42:15,090 --> 01:42:21,890
that I'm fine putting a booster right here right here in my house. I thought he'd

1595
01:42:21,890 --> 01:42:32,210
least have 60? No, that sucks. But we also have, you know, we don't, I'm kind of

1596
01:42:32,210 --> 01:42:37,310
thinking that the way it was engineered was for expansion. So I'm wondering

1597
01:42:37,310 --> 01:42:42,470
that once the expansion heads, we can turn, turn it up, get the flow going a

1598
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:47,730
little more. So because right now we're limited on the flow too. Nobody's drying

1599
01:42:47,730 --> 01:42:49,250
water. Right.

1600
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:58,430
There's a few areas that I think it's coming. We'll suggest if we

1601
01:42:58,430 --> 01:43:01,110
they will let us use the field station then figure out an area that we want

1602
01:43:01,110 --> 01:43:04,470
to develop into and then let's come up with a plan to say we got to get enough

1603
01:43:04,470 --> 01:43:09,730
money so we can come up into this area. Okay. Blind streams. Blind streams.

1604
01:43:11,130 --> 01:43:17,430
And I it's so it's Shane Rowan's dad opens that property right before the Indian

1605
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:19,450
I land cattle garden.

1606
01:43:19,530 --> 01:43:20,690
Yeah, I haven't ever seen a room.

1607
01:43:21,150 --> 01:43:21,470
House up.

1608
01:43:21,610 --> 01:43:24,730
Well, there's a couple of curvy ones up there.

1609
01:43:25,250 --> 01:43:27,410
Yeah, there's like a trailer home or something.

1610
01:43:27,530 --> 01:43:30,850
There were that crazy fence in archway.

1611
01:43:30,930 --> 01:43:35,010
The American with the DNR guy hanging from the pole.

1612
01:43:35,310 --> 01:43:36,130
That's on chains.

1613
01:43:36,530 --> 01:43:37,010
That's curvy.

1614
01:43:37,270 --> 01:43:37,870
Oh, that's curvy.

1615
01:43:37,930 --> 01:43:38,310
Yeah.

1616
01:43:39,050 --> 01:43:40,470
And he'll lose it for the time.

1617
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:42,130
Okay.

1618
01:43:42,130 --> 01:43:49,910
I know the fire there's 25 and not been tabby just cutting out dead wood. We're in about

1619
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:56,230
fires this year. So our system will help there. Yeah, that's all

1620
01:44:00,010 --> 01:44:04,860
I had. Okay, did anything?

1621
01:44:05,780 --> 01:44:06,800
I'm good. Right.

1622
01:44:10,610 --> 01:44:12,670
We can take 25 minutes.

1623
01:44:14,730 --> 01:44:18,170
We're doing it before. I just had tried to do

1624
01:44:18,170 --> 01:44:24,670
investment seems like I had to get in. No, I would like to revisit this. I think it's

1625
01:44:24,670 --> 01:44:31,190
necessary whether or not. I was trying to do it for any board, not me or for any board.

1626
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:37,330
Delineate, peace and charge and how it flows because somebody else would be able to make

1627
01:44:37,330 --> 01:44:41,230
the decision and then like I'm the guy to guy that said here's what I think and I'll fight

1628
01:44:41,230 --> 01:44:45,330
against it but once the decision's like I'm along with it. I'll just say let's make

1629
01:44:45,330 --> 01:44:49,870
got and but somebody needs to make that decision and it's got it right now it's

1630
01:44:49,870 --> 01:44:55,130
chair you know chairman or director but we just need to figure out who's job

1631
01:44:55,130 --> 01:44:59,010
that is and then everybody and what I get these other ones not to try to divide

1632
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,440
All of us didn't need to go to all of this, by prince, that, not the meeting, and one of us go. You know, not all of us. Yeah, and just somebody's in charge of procedures and rules. Instead of everybody trying to research it and figure out how the vote goes, for example, or one, you know, the treasurer, secretary, treasurer out at help with the budget and then sign all those documents and operations, helping DAX. If we have somebody the DAX can call and say, hey, what do you think on this one? Somebody to talk to instead of waiting till we only meet once a month.

1633
01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:35,260
Well, yeah, that I was using Timmy for that because I could call Tim and be like, hey, I'm looking for him in this.

1634
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,440
So I thought Wendy doesn't know everything about location.

1635
01:45:39,260 --> 01:45:41,020
And she salaries, so she shouldn't have to do it all.

1636
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:47,140
You know, she should be able to take care of her side and the operator ought to be someone on the board help out.

1637
01:45:47,420 --> 01:45:51,600
And then the board, we made a decision, if it's under a certain number, then you can just do it.

1638
01:45:51,660 --> 01:45:54,900
If not, then if it's emergency, be able to call around.

1639
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,020
So we need to do this.

1640
01:45:57,020 --> 01:46:01,660
So that was kind of the point of the doll and what the duties are because it seems like

1641
01:46:01,660 --> 01:46:05,620
Wendy's your duties are never ending here and you're on everything.

1642
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:12,140
I didn't realize before, I thought it was more of a clerk and we just hired some, and then

1643
01:46:12,740 --> 01:46:15,800
you did have a necessity, did everything.

1644
01:46:16,340 --> 01:46:17,560
But I thought is that fair to you?

1645
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:21,220
And then shouldn't somebody else and maybe the board shouldn't do it because they're not

1646
01:46:21,220 --> 01:46:23,220
paid, but they had to do something.

1647
01:46:23,220 --> 01:46:26,000
and that was my only point,

1648
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:27,360
but I'm not sure where to go with it now.

1649
01:46:27,620 --> 01:46:30,140
That was the direction, you know,

1650
01:46:30,580 --> 01:46:31,960
the others on the board,

1651
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:35,020
they wanted to feel like they were part of something.

1652
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:37,300
You know, that was a whole thing

1653
01:46:37,300 --> 01:46:40,260
is they just come here once a month being talked to

1654
01:46:40,260 --> 01:46:42,920
and then being dismissed, you know,

1655
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,240
that's when we started doing the projects

1656
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:47,380
and hey, can't would you be willing to do this

1657
01:46:47,380 --> 01:46:47,980
and this and this.

1658
01:46:48,540 --> 01:46:50,440
I mean, it seemed like a good direction.

1659
01:46:50,440 --> 01:46:59,240
So you're spot on with your flow chart, but whatever the flow chart is, maybe the director's up there and then above the chairman.

1660
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:00,020
I don't know.

1661
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:05,680
You know, because it seems like and then maybe that ought to be a full-time position or a W2 or something.

1662
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,540
Because right now as an independent contractor, you can fire them at will.

1663
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,700
You know, there's no security there.

1664
01:47:12,260 --> 01:47:19,580
And so it's almost like if Larry or the chairman and the clerk can't get along then the clerk needs to be fired and get another clerk or

1665
01:47:19,580 --> 01:47:22,640
or the chairman needs to resign, something,

1666
01:47:23,060 --> 01:47:24,660
but we didn't even know how it worked.

1667
01:47:25,220 --> 01:47:26,460
Yeah, I still don't know.

1668
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,760
But it makes more sense that if that's the director,

1669
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:31,880
then I look at her in a whole different position.

1670
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:33,520
I've looked at it as that's the clerk.

1671
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,040
And why do we burden her with all this stuff?

1672
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,780
And she's can't sign for Hannah, because she's a clerk.

1673
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:42,760
She's not even an employee of her work.

1674
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,580
And then like, are we a 501C3?

1675
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:58,620
What are we do tax returns? I haven't seen any. We don't. Do we need to? No. No, not on the 1099. It's just one. No, I'm saying water. No, the special service district does not do.

1676
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:06,680
Do they have any important requirements? I mean, we do budgets instead, but we don't really follow on. Well, the state requires that you send them your budgets.

1677
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:14,640
Yeah. When we went down the St. George's, they were saying, yeah, we were waiting to get out. I didn't know we wrote it. Yeah.

1678
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:20,700
So I was just trying to just organize it better just so everybody knew where they sat. Who do I answer to?

1679
01:48:21,020 --> 01:48:24,120
I thought I answered the Larry, but maybe I answered it wasn't me. I don't know

1680
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:30,200
That's my point because I was completely confused. I don't know. I don't know what the chart is

1681
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,980
So that's why I thought we ought to have a chart and

1682
01:48:36,220 --> 01:48:41,340
Maybe these two ought to be employees rather than independent contractors. They really do work for us

1683
01:48:41,340 --> 01:48:46,240
But they're independent, so he works for tab two and somebody else, and I don't know, do you have any other jobs?

1684
01:48:46,460 --> 01:48:47,240
It's the only one.

1685
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:47,800
No, I don't know.

1686
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:48,140
Mom?

1687
01:48:48,740 --> 01:48:49,060
Yeah.

1688
01:48:49,980 --> 01:48:55,280
Well, the thing is also, you start looking at going from 10 to 99 to regular employees.

1689
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:59,140
Now, you're talking insurance and quarterly mobility.

1690
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:00,180
Quarterly tax returns.

1691
01:49:00,860 --> 01:49:03,760
Which we did do for Dixie, and she was...

1692
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:04,400
She was W2?

1693
01:49:04,660 --> 01:49:04,820
Yeah.

1694
01:49:06,020 --> 01:49:06,740
Well, I didn't switch.

1695
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,640
When we started, it was me and Melissa Hughes.

1696
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:14,140
and they just said, you know, while you're part-time,

1697
01:49:14,300 --> 01:49:15,240
how do you guys want to do it?

1698
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:16,400
And we both said we didn't care.

1699
01:49:16,580 --> 01:49:18,020
And they just decided on $10.99.

1700
01:49:18,060 --> 01:49:18,880
It wasn't really.

1701
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:21,900
It's easier, but it does not allow security for you.

1702
01:49:22,060 --> 01:49:24,080
I mean, because the $10.99 employee can be fired away.

1703
01:49:24,420 --> 01:49:26,880
I mean, where an employee you've got to have records

1704
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:29,160
and, you know, annual reviews,

1705
01:49:29,340 --> 01:49:31,080
we've never done an annual review on anybody.

1706
01:49:31,820 --> 01:49:34,040
So nobody does a review.

1707
01:49:34,480 --> 01:49:36,140
And like you're being at me, even said,

1708
01:49:36,700 --> 01:49:38,720
I'm not tripping on Brandy, he just said,

1709
01:49:38,900 --> 01:49:39,920
yeah, he just liked motivation.

1710
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:45,480
He really didn't do anything because when he got hurt he didn't have anything that he said he was gonna have done

1711
01:49:45,480 --> 01:49:50,940
like in the fouries and drop description and you know weekly salary or weekly

1712
01:49:50,940 --> 01:49:58,200
uh things to do just in the schedule so no one and he didn't answer to anybody so no one knew I

1713
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:03,460
thought we should have more organization they had to answer to somebody like Daxa to say here's my

1714
01:50:03,460 --> 01:50:08,020
hours Larry and Larry looks at him goes okay sign up on him so it shouldn't have to do

1715
01:50:08,020 --> 01:50:14,700
Yeah, but it did rent being no and it seemed like I just want you to

1716
01:50:14,700 --> 01:50:22,280
Well, then you questioned hours and like that, you know, you should be questioning it and maybe it maybe you should question it

1717
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:28,140
I don't know a director probably would but a clerk probably would that was my point, right? I don't know who's in charge

1718
01:50:28,140 --> 01:50:35,700
No, so I was hoping to say and it would be better for everybody if they like here's how the flow goes

1719
01:50:35,700 --> 01:50:40,420
This person is the buck stops here and they make the decision right around.

1720
01:50:40,900 --> 01:50:46,020
We have a discussion, we do a vote but the board's vote, you know, and the vote and it should

1721
01:50:46,020 --> 01:50:46,220
be.

1722
01:50:46,380 --> 01:50:51,960
And it said bring it to the table and then, like Wendy, we already said, I got to bring

1723
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:52,440
this to the board.

1724
01:50:52,720 --> 01:51:01,320
I can't make that decision, like on whether we forgive grants loans, grants loans or projects.

1725
01:51:01,900 --> 01:51:04,820
Bring it to the board, the board discussions and the board makes a decision and the board

1726
01:51:04,820 --> 01:51:10,700
has a use. There's before we had no use. We just came and heard what was going on like all right

1727
01:51:10,700 --> 01:51:18,180
and then you were happy because you thought you know you felt the same way like you felt the

1728
01:51:18,180 --> 01:51:24,580
contention and you wanted to quit all the time and you know board members come and go we never

1729
01:51:24,580 --> 01:51:28,460
had a vote you know when somebody came on or just came on we did I thought we had to have some

1730
01:51:28,460 --> 01:51:34,520
at least way that a new board member came on board you know bring a resume have a discussion try to

1731
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:36,620
I feel in need and then talk about it.

1732
01:51:36,700 --> 01:51:37,760
But then there was the other board members,

1733
01:51:37,900 --> 01:51:39,920
the vote of men, we've never had any public vote.

1734
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:41,220
I give.

1735
01:51:41,300 --> 01:51:43,480
Well, is it a public vote or is it a privilege

1736
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:44,540
for getting the board members?

1737
01:51:44,540 --> 01:51:45,560
A name for a member.

1738
01:51:46,020 --> 01:51:49,060
Not when you appoint and is for, I believe it is for election.

1739
01:51:49,340 --> 01:51:49,800
For election.

1740
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:52,720
But not when you appoint, because that's why I'm saying

1741
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:53,840
we've done it in the meetings,

1742
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,180
but it should be done through the Canada Commission.

1743
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:58,320
So that's why the Canada C steps.

1744
01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:59,280
And that's why I kept asking,

1745
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:00,480
I've never met the Canada Commission.

1746
01:52:00,580 --> 01:52:01,440
Have you met the Canada Commission?

1747
01:52:02,060 --> 01:52:02,380
Once.

1748
01:52:02,380 --> 01:52:09,080
He basically approves whether or not everybody on the board should know who he is

1749
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:15,060
Well, there's for the county is one of them in charge of us or I thought there was but there's no

1750
01:52:15,060 --> 01:52:20,200
There so there can be one assigned we have one specifically for the library board

1751
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:28,120
That would be easier. We haven't requested that. I did talk with Jeff this month about what to do and he said get your

1752
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:34,320
bylaws go through that figure out and he's willing to help us with whatever we need.

1753
01:52:34,340 --> 01:52:36,540
We just need more information. That's why we buy laws.

1754
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:46,360
You have a copy of them. I gave mine to Kim, because she should have.

1755
01:52:46,500 --> 01:52:49,980
But we should have with you those. I mean, we brought it up a lot of time when we get all

1756
01:52:49,980 --> 01:52:55,700
through the buyout. Yeah. I've sent to have a bunch of them to serve under our money to

1757
01:52:55,700 --> 01:52:57,580
I had a call from a game with somebody.

1758
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:01,260
I gave mine to Kim, so I had one at one point.

1759
01:53:01,780 --> 01:53:03,860
But I thought they, but we didn't seem to go by it.

1760
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:04,760
You know, we didn't seem to.

1761
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,020
It didn't, it doesn't have a lot of information

1762
01:53:07,020 --> 01:53:07,640
in that, yeah.

1763
01:53:07,660 --> 01:53:07,980
I'm sorry.

1764
01:53:08,660 --> 01:53:10,800
Somebody would have a whim of bringing somebody on board,

1765
01:53:11,020 --> 01:53:14,340
just like Deb and me and, you know, Ben Pokak wanted,

1766
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:16,580
he wanted to quit and he wanted to bring somebody,

1767
01:53:16,740 --> 01:53:17,460
he just didn't want to leave.

1768
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:19,400
Because he'd been here for a while.

1769
01:53:19,580 --> 01:53:21,620
He said I want somebody that will probably take this

1770
01:53:21,620 --> 01:53:24,580
and take it serious and try hard and do a good job.

1771
01:53:24,580 --> 01:53:27,680
And so then when he put I didn't know about that until later

1772
01:53:28,940 --> 01:53:32,660
That's just what I think it's always been and they just never been

1773
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,520
Well like Cecil quick and pretty son on

1774
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:40,060
But the sun's standing right there and it's like kind of hard to not vote for

1775
01:53:40,060 --> 01:53:43,800
The chairman not calls for a vote and there's Roger

1776
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:48,480
Cecil he are two secretaries. How did he bring it to the board?

1777
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,640
I never knew that till I'd been here for like a year

1778
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:55,140
Well, they had, they'd all seen the resumes, but they didn't actually take it to a vote.

1779
01:53:55,500 --> 01:53:57,740
And then after I was here for a year, they're like, yeah, he hired you.

1780
01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:59,420
I don't know if I've talked to anybody.

1781
01:54:00,180 --> 01:54:06,840
I hate to see it, you know, the Larry Lee and the Brown Lee, and it's, I mean, like,

1782
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,300
me and Wendy, I think we showed up at the same night.

1783
01:54:09,500 --> 01:54:10,680
It was May of 2021.

1784
01:54:11,020 --> 01:54:17,020
And it was just like, I mean, that night, I wanted me to be a chairperson, and I'm doing

1785
01:54:17,020 --> 01:54:17,340
that.

1786
01:54:17,340 --> 01:54:26,860
I don't know, so we just went on board members, but it should be nicer, it should be friendlier,

1787
01:54:27,140 --> 01:54:28,820
it should be where I'm working towards it.

1788
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:37,640
We should know, that's why I don't know what the heck I'm going to be supposed to be

1789
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:37,840
doing.

1790
01:54:38,660 --> 01:54:39,560
That's my point too.

1791
01:54:39,700 --> 01:54:40,280
I didn't know either.

1792
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:46,640
So when me and Tammy were supposed to approve for Brent Bayon, I think it only happened

1793
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:47,400
like twice.

1794
01:54:48,260 --> 01:54:54,200
Well, I can be in the CPA and having done budgets before, I felt I felt I was tricking

1795
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:57,440
my response field by not getting the budget in and going over it and making sure it's

1796
01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:58,380
right and signing and going.

1797
01:54:58,600 --> 01:54:59,340
But I never did.

1798
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:00,940
I apparently signed it.

1799
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:02,280
I still remember doing it.

1800
01:55:03,260 --> 01:55:08,000
I always felt guilty that I'm not doing it because I do have a master's in accounting and

1801
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:08,780
I can do it.

1802
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,640
I've done several, but I'm not going to hear it.

1803
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,600
So I don't feel like they're using my abilities.

1804
01:55:16,180 --> 01:55:17,560
And I know Wendy, you're busy.

1805
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:18,700
You've got tons of things to do.

1806
01:55:18,700 --> 01:55:21,140
And you've got kids and take care of all too many things.

1807
01:55:21,140 --> 01:55:24,520
And so sometimes, like me, I work to deadlines.

1808
01:55:24,860 --> 01:55:27,240
If it's due tomorrow, I'm working on it today.

1809
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:29,900
But sometimes I don't do it a few weeks ahead

1810
01:55:29,900 --> 01:55:31,080
and I was trying to help out there.

1811
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,360
Again, that's what I'm, the point is,

1812
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,500
I would be nice if we could come on and say,

1813
01:55:35,500 --> 01:55:42,140
Okay, here's who's in charge, board out the votes on it, but you're a clerk, but you're not a clerk, really.

1814
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:46,300
Well, to be honest with you, I was never given a title.

1815
01:55:46,740 --> 01:55:49,840
I mean, I think the job description said Hannah Water Secretary.

1816
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:56,540
The clerk is just what I was called on piece paper and that kind of way that I was never given a title.

1817
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:57,880
The clerks are in a different situation.

1818
01:55:58,140 --> 01:56:02,480
The clerk asked somebody they don't have to have all that stress and they don't have to do all that and they don't make the decisions.

1819
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:07,720
They don't have to figure out all the funding and go to the county commissioner and figure out the bugs.

1820
01:56:07,900 --> 01:56:08,840
That's not a clerks job.

1821
01:56:09,860 --> 01:56:12,080
No clerk I've ever had to have that job.

1822
01:56:12,620 --> 01:56:20,940
But then if you're going to appoint a board member or some of them else, then that board members are probably beginning to take.

1823
01:56:20,940 --> 01:56:28,740
If you take and give that one person the responsibility, then the other board members are going to say,

1824
01:56:28,740 --> 01:56:36,660
Well, I need to get paid also. I put a lot of time into it. So you're kind of like you're saying really you almost need to have that

1825
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:37,920
second

1826
01:56:38,620 --> 01:56:39,420
position paid

1827
01:56:39,940 --> 01:56:45,320
It almost seems like it because if you said I'll give you 50 bucks a month with five minutes worth of my work

1828
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:51,880
To do put up with this and then come for three hour or hours and you don't have any sense responsibility

1829
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:57,980
You know, so that's why I don't want to be paid really. I wanted just but I want to be useful. Right

1830
01:56:58,740 --> 01:57:02,820
And if you need an accountant, that's usually where I get one of the invited to the party.

1831
01:57:03,140 --> 01:57:07,220
Is if somebody needs an accountant, or someone they can put a financial statement together,

1832
01:57:07,380 --> 01:57:08,020
do a tax return.

1833
01:57:08,660 --> 01:57:08,800
Yeah.

1834
01:57:09,700 --> 01:57:13,980
Like, I'm the H.O.A. President now, because they said, yeah, the H.O.A. don't do a tax return.

1835
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:16,440
Like, yes, about 120 H.O.A.

1836
01:57:17,420 --> 01:57:18,420
Or it's a tax return.

1837
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:19,840
You're just not compliant.

1838
01:57:20,700 --> 01:57:22,080
So, they voted me as a president.

1839
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:28,700
Now we have an 8-11-20 and then all the, you know, like, champion, he wanted to, he

1840
01:57:28,700 --> 01:57:32,260
was bragging about how much money we made, like, it's tax-blank him and it's not part

1841
01:57:32,260 --> 01:57:33,820
of the H-oyce and now we got to pay tax on that.

1842
01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:38,140
So now we're really out of compliance, because most of them just have a bank account, they

1843
01:57:38,140 --> 01:57:40,980
don't make anything and then there's no taxes to it.

1844
01:57:41,100 --> 01:57:43,500
But if you make something, now there's tax to do, because it's not really a business.

1845
01:57:45,820 --> 01:57:47,340
But I didn't really do anything here.

1846
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:47,660
Okay.

1847
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:56,420
I didn't have anybody or I didn't bring this up are you guys willing to sign the engineering agreement did you guys look at that?

1848
01:57:56,500 --> 01:58:02,340
Any more after you made the updates and added the V schedule? Did you have any?

1849
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:08,120
I think we left it in a good spot.

1850
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,920
So, do you recommend nation sign it?

1851
01:58:11,980 --> 01:58:13,080
I would sign it.

1852
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:14,480
I second it.

1853
01:58:14,780 --> 01:58:16,380
Can I first sign it?

1854
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:19,140
I'm no longer there.

1855
01:58:19,460 --> 01:58:20,900
I can't sign it.

1856
01:58:21,860 --> 01:58:22,220
Sign it.

1857
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:24,040
You're on the board.

1858
01:58:27,780 --> 01:58:28,240
It's right there.

1859
01:58:33,540 --> 01:58:34,800
Can we build a good bridge?

1860
01:58:35,940 --> 01:58:36,080
Yeah.

1861
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:41,840
Well, those were not ours, but we just, I'm, but, too, though, they just put it.

1862
01:58:42,180 --> 01:58:43,200
It's the Horox.

1863
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:47,420
It's a contract, it's an annual.

1864
01:58:48,300 --> 01:58:50,060
Yeah, we haven't changed it to a one year.

1865
01:58:50,180 --> 01:58:53,240
One year contract that Horax will be our engineers for the next year.

1866
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:54,680
Should be fired.

1867
01:58:55,940 --> 01:59:00,320
We got them to, you know, we had that stern discussion with them and I think they've been

1868
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,100
doing better since then.

1869
01:59:02,340 --> 01:59:06,880
You know, when they brought up some really horrible plans and they're overbilling us.

1870
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:13,180
I was not happy with what they did and they were better.

1871
01:59:13,180 --> 01:59:15,100
And I think that I think they're doing a good job.

1872
01:59:15,940 --> 01:59:23,000
You want to I do think that they're there are an asset of good value to Hannah.

1873
01:59:23,500 --> 01:59:27,940
So I would try to, you know, work it out and stay with them as long as you can.

1874
01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:30,160
But we're seeing all of us.

1875
01:59:30,180 --> 01:59:30,240
Huh?

1876
01:59:30,580 --> 01:59:31,320
You gotta keep them.

1877
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,360
You gotta keep them.

1878
01:59:33,500 --> 01:59:35,840
Every building should have been in.

1879
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:37,740
In my opinion, it should be.

1880
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:39,080
Groundwork.

1881
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:40,140
It should be that.

1882
01:59:41,500 --> 01:59:43,320
That's immediately being constructed.

1883
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,320
At least they wrote down they're going to have a meeting

1884
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:47,100
with contractors here Friday.

1885
01:59:47,540 --> 01:59:49,720
Yeah, Friday at 1 o'clock is the pre-bid meeting

1886
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:51,560
for any contractors interested in bidding.

1887
01:59:51,740 --> 01:59:53,960
So hopefully we'll get some contractors interested in.

1888
01:59:54,060 --> 01:59:54,580
So they're moving.

1889
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:58,560
Well, the whole meeting at the side?

1890
01:59:59,180 --> 01:59:59,780
No, you're meeting.

1891
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:28,720
I think the tally building. Where the, right? I thought he put the park building on the park building, but I don't. Yes. Oh, this is park building. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's okay. So this, yeah, one o'clock, I'm sorry. Did you did you get the invite? Oh, okay. Yeah. No, we're part building. I was looking where it was. He said the site is going to garbage. That is supposed to get delivered this week, I think.

1892
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:39,600
He said he's had four to five contractors show interest and request a pre-bid packet, and then I sent him another one today that asked me about it.

1893
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,420
So hopefully we'll have five or six contractors show up to bid it.

1894
02:00:42,740 --> 02:00:44,220
He said there's quite a bit of interest.

1895
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:47,060
I was talking to him for quite a while today.

1896
02:00:47,980 --> 02:00:48,580
Yeah, go have fun.

1897
02:00:48,580 --> 02:00:55,360
things. It's a good ship. I mean there's not a lot to it. Just the groundwork and the groundwork

1898
02:00:55,360 --> 02:01:02,340
we're not going to need to bring in maybe six inches of minus for the concrete. You know, it should

1899
02:01:02,340 --> 02:01:10,220
go pretty quick. Yeah, the decent size crew goes out faster. Yeah. And then the interior stuff

1900
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:16,700
shouldn't take more than a couple weeks. There's not that much going on the inside of the building.

1901
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:22,580
So yeah, it should be interesting meeting on Friday.

1902
02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:25,180
Hopefully it goes well.

1903
02:01:25,540 --> 02:01:25,940
Okay.

1904
02:01:26,020 --> 02:01:26,240
Thank you.

1905
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:27,640
Thanks.

1906
02:01:28,500 --> 02:01:29,200
What's that?

1907
02:01:30,980 --> 02:01:31,580
What's that?

1908
02:01:31,580 --> 02:01:33,120
What are your journeys and meetings?

1909
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:33,720
The meetings.

1910
02:01:35,540 --> 02:01:36,780
Thanks for coming today.

1911
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:39,100
Although I know you're in pain.

1912
02:01:39,880 --> 02:01:40,580
See you over the back.

1913
02:01:40,580 --> 02:01:41,080
I'm fine.

1914
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,720
I just gotta get my whole body moving.

1915
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:49,700
Yeah, he's going to lose it, you know.

1916
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:51,460
All right, thanks.

1917
02:01:58,880 --> 02:01:59,080
Great.

1918
02:01:59,580 --> 02:02:00,780
Welcome to the professor.

1919
02:02:06,660 --> 02:02:07,240
A quick answer.

1920
02:02:09,420 --> 02:02:10,200
Stick with her.

1921
02:02:10,700 --> 02:02:12,400
No, I've been doing it.

1922
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:13,800
What?