1 00:00:07,220 --> 00:00:13,120 Good evening. My pleasure to call to all of the December meeting of the Hanover County Planning Commission. 2 00:00:14,020 --> 00:00:21,540 We welcome those in attendance and we thank you for coming. Also, I'd like to remind everybody we are live streaming now. 3 00:00:22,460 --> 00:00:27,120 So, just make that notation in the next few meetings to everybody get used to it. 4 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Ms. Burton, would you please call the roll? Mr. Pageit. 5 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:40,580 Mr. Bailey, Mrs. Iverson, Mr. Whitaker, Mrs. Wimborn, Chairman Low Better, thank you, Ms. 6 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,140 Burton. The first item on tonight's agenda is the approval of the minutes of the November 7 00:00:46,140 --> 00:00:49,820 meeting. Are there any additions or corrections from the commission? 8 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:53,890 The annan we will 9 00:00:53,890 --> 00:01:00,490 ask for a motion. So, move. Have a motion for approval from Mr. Page and do we have a second? 10 00:01:00,490 --> 00:01:06,550 Second, second button Mr. Wyrlico, call for the vote. All in favour, say aye. 11 00:01:07,430 --> 00:01:09,810 Aye. All in favour? Motion carries. 12 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:17,020 Next on the agenda is consideration of agenda amendments. 13 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:23,040 Are there any amendments by any other commissioners? Seeing none. 14 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,300 I think we move to our next case. Mr. Bendler. 15 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,720 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members of the Commission. 16 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 We do have two administrative cases for you tonight. 17 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,880 They're both preliminary plata medmits. 18 00:01:41,750 --> 00:01:45,690 The first one is Hickory Hill Section 2, and these are Dan's district. 19 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:47,610 And the second one is Honey Meadows. 20 00:01:48,790 --> 00:01:49,870 Take a homony district. 21 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,960 These are, as I stated, these are both expedited. 22 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,140 Therefore, we would like to give a presentation 23 00:01:57,140 --> 00:01:58,900 unless the commission requests one. 24 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,940 We have talked to the Planning Commissioner for Hickory Hill Section 2. 25 00:02:03,260 --> 00:02:04,640 And we've talked to the applicant. 26 00:02:05,620 --> 00:02:11,700 And they are in agreement with the report with a change to the condition which is in front 27 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:19,220 of all of you as written there and if you have any questions, I'm glad to answer that. 28 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,280 Thank you, Mr. Bunder. 29 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,580 Do we have any comments or questions from the Commission? 30 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Mr. Chairman, I'd just would like some clarification on why it was changed. 31 00:02:31,780 --> 00:02:37,460 Actually, Mr. Windborn, it needs to be changed because by being in there, it's not correct. 32 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:45,000 This is a typical condition that we, for improvements to a subdivision, if they're not built with that section, they're bonded. 33 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:53,960 But that's if they were required by proper or they are required in the district, which is our C here. 34 00:02:54,220 --> 00:02:57,880 Neither is the case here. The applicants have gotten with the Homeland Association. 35 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:04,480 and they agreed to do this on their own, so we do not have the ability to bond for that. 36 00:03:04,660 --> 00:03:04,940 Excellent. 37 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:06,360 Thank you. 38 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Thank you, Ms. Wimbledon. 39 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,680 Any other questions from the Commission? 40 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:14,340 Seeing none, I believe, Ms. Ourson, this is in your district. 41 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:28,310 I move the approval of the preliminary plaque, amendment hit for Hill Section 2, with the 42 00:03:30,450 --> 00:03:33,790 The approval of the subject to the conditions recommended. 43 00:03:35,170 --> 00:03:35,830 Thank you, Ms. Allison. 44 00:03:35,930 --> 00:03:37,130 We have a motion by Ms. Allison. 45 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:38,090 We have a second. 46 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:40,750 I can find this one more. 47 00:03:41,470 --> 00:03:43,230 Any comments or questions from the Commission? 48 00:03:43,810 --> 00:03:45,250 Seeing no we'll call for the vote. 49 00:03:45,510 --> 00:03:46,790 All in favor say aye. 50 00:03:48,970 --> 00:03:49,670 Motion carries. 51 00:03:50,810 --> 00:03:51,290 Mr. Bunder. 52 00:03:51,790 --> 00:03:52,330 Next case. 53 00:03:52,330 --> 00:03:57,630 The meeting in the administrative case is Honey Meadows, Chick-a-Hommany Magisterle District. 54 00:03:58,150 --> 00:03:59,690 It is also a preliminary clap. 55 00:03:59,870 --> 00:04:04,430 We have talked with the Planning Commissioner from that district as well and the applicant 56 00:04:04,430 --> 00:04:07,210 has indicated they are okay with the report as it is. 57 00:04:07,630 --> 00:04:09,950 So if you would like a presentation, we would be glad to do it. 58 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:13,390 Otherwise, if you have any questions, we'd be glad to entertain you. 59 00:04:13,710 --> 00:04:14,570 Thank you, Mr. Bender. 60 00:04:15,010 --> 00:04:17,490 Are there any questions, comments from the Commission? 61 00:04:19,890 --> 00:04:21,950 Say, and I must page and I believe this one is yours. 62 00:04:21,950 --> 00:04:26,050 When I hear Mr. Chairman, I move the Planning Commission approve 63 00:04:26,050 --> 00:04:27,430 preliminary plaque amendment. 64 00:04:28,330 --> 00:04:29,230 Dad, honey matters. 65 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:33,880 We have a motion by Mr. Pageant, do we have a second? 66 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:38,100 Second by Mr. Whitaker, any questions from the Commission? 67 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,300 Do you know we're called for the vote? 68 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:42,700 All in favor say aye. 69 00:04:43,180 --> 00:04:44,520 Aye. All opposed? 70 00:04:45,420 --> 00:04:46,080 Motion carries. 71 00:04:50,660 --> 00:04:53,880 Next item on the agenda is Missillanius. 72 00:04:53,880 --> 00:05:00,000 and we have the adoption of the 2016 regular meeting. 73 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:17,520 Mr Chairman, I just want to state for the record that the schedule is going to be the same schedule 74 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:24,380 that we've followed for several years. The regular meeting will be the third Thursday of the month, 75 00:05:24,380 --> 00:05:26,960 for the months of January through November, 76 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:30,820 for the month of December will be the second Thursday of the month, 77 00:05:31,580 --> 00:05:38,300 and the continued meeting date if necessary due to weather or other conditions, 78 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,440 which make holding a meeting hazardous. 79 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:49,140 The continued meeting date would be the following Tuesday of the regular meeting schedule. 80 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:55,640 And again, I just wanted to articulate that for the public record. 81 00:05:55,860 --> 00:06:00,380 So anybody watching understands what the schedule is. 82 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:06,560 This will be posted to both the website and within the planning office. 83 00:06:07,380 --> 00:06:08,060 Mr. Chairman? 84 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,100 Yes, Mr. Woodley. 85 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:10,260 Yes, Mr. Woodley. 86 00:06:10,260 --> 00:06:14,600 If I could ask Mr. Merloni on the copy that I'm looking at, they have the continued 87 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:21,300 day for the November meeting is type this Monday. Is that intended or a typo? 88 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:26,150 I'm seeing that now. 89 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,520 Mr. Chairman, I believe that the continued date usually is the following 90 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Monday rather than that Tuesday in that instance because the Board of Supervisors normally meets 91 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:46,500 the Tuesday of that. That's correct. That would be the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, which is 92 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:51,520 board meeting date so the plan commission meeting would be in conflict. Thank you, Mr. Walter. 93 00:06:52,780 --> 00:07:00,680 So the Monday is correct on this. So again, and that's a good point that Miss Windborne raises. So again, for the record. 94 00:07:02,300 --> 00:07:10,480 The continued meeting date will be the Tuesday following the regularly scheduled meeting with the exception of the month of November, 95 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:16,400 where the continued date will be the Monday following the continued schedule. 96 00:07:16,780 --> 00:07:18,860 Thank you for pointing that out, Miss Windborne. 97 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Thank you, Miss Windborne. 98 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:23,180 Just a while, please. 99 00:07:25,390 --> 00:07:26,630 Are there any other questions? 100 00:07:27,310 --> 00:07:29,230 We'll come back on the schedule. 101 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:33,190 Seeing none, do we have a motion for approval? 102 00:07:34,410 --> 00:07:35,350 A motion to approve? 103 00:07:35,790 --> 00:07:40,050 Motion by Mr. Worker. Do we have a second by Mr. Pageant? 104 00:07:40,050 --> 00:07:42,530 Olen-Favorisayah, Olen-Favisayah, Olen-Favisayah. 105 00:07:42,530 --> 00:07:44,850 Aye, Olen-Favisayah, Olen-Favisayah, Olen-Favisayah. 106 00:07:45,210 --> 00:07:45,570 Motion carries. 107 00:07:48,510 --> 00:07:52,890 Next, Tony Moussalanius is the adoption of Resolution Armor 108 00:07:52,890 --> 00:07:54,470 and this, fortunately, Peace. 109 00:07:55,810 --> 00:08:00,210 And we have a motion to proceed with the resolution. 110 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:02,850 Motion by Miss Windborne, 111 00:08:03,290 --> 00:08:05,010 who we have a second-byem of that service. 112 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:10,390 Olen-Favisayah, Olen-Favisayah, Olen-Favisayah, Olen-Favisayah, 113 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:17,710 motion carries. Are there any other comments from the Commission? If not, we'll take a short 114 00:08:17,710 --> 00:08:19,570 recess and reconvene at 7 o'clock. 115 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,460 I pledge it to call to order the December monthly meeting of the Hanover County Planning Commission. 116 00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:57,580 We welcome you for joining us tonight, and I like to mention to everyone that was not here on the earlier meeting that we are live streaming. 117 00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,700 And with that said, Mr. Bailey, would you please listen to the pledge? 118 00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:19,450 and states of America, and to the republic for what it stands, one nation, under God, and it was a little bit of liberty in justice for 119 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:23,960 us. 120 00:31:24,220 --> 00:31:32,180 Thank you, Mr. Vale. Moving along, there are copies of the meeting agenda located in the rear if you didn't get one as you came in. 121 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:38,140 The public rules are on the back of the agenda and provides information for anyone that they want to speak tonight. 122 00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:43,140 The Planning Commission offers an opportunity at each meeting for anyone in attendance to 123 00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:46,740 speak to us on a planning issue that is not on tonight's agenda. 124 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,320 If you are here to speak to us on a case that will be presented tonight, we ask that you 125 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,840 wait and make your comments when the case is being discussed. 126 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,220 I will now open Citizens' Time with anyone wishing to speak, please raise your hand. 127 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,720 So, in no one we will close Citizens' Time. 128 00:32:09,090 --> 00:32:22,270 Next on the agenda will be tonight's public hearings, the rules for the public hearings on the backside of the agenda, and I'll call your attention to those and ask you in particular to note the time limits on items 2 through 6. 129 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:30,210 We have six cases on tonight's agenda listed as expedited. This means there has been little or no public opposition to the request. 130 00:32:31,170 --> 00:32:37,250 The application is moved through the county process, and it is understood the applicant is an agreement with the staff recommendations. 131 00:32:38,030 --> 00:32:42,330 is there anyone here that would like to speak in opposition to any of these expedited 132 00:32:42,330 --> 00:32:46,810 cases so we will remove them from the expedited agenda? 133 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:55,390 Seeing none, we will move forward. Mr Garmin, would you please present us with our first 134 00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:55,990 case? 135 00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:58,670 Yes, sir. 136 00:33:00,590 --> 00:33:05,390 Mr Chairman, excuse me, the speakers are going to have to come up to the podium. 137 00:33:05,390 --> 00:33:10,790 Yes, and per the record recording, okay. Thank you, Mr. Plain. 138 00:33:16,510 --> 00:33:21,730 Doctor, you guys said speaking of the objection of one of the three's earnings, correct? 139 00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:23,590 Of one of the expedited cases. 140 00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:26,330 Number six. 141 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:31,940 Ms. 142 00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:40,710 Chairman, number six on the agenda would be Gatsy Properties. 143 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,690 I'm speaking on behalf of my father, the land owner of, 144 00:33:47,690 --> 00:33:55,130 of checks and subdivision, did back up to Gatsy with a secondary thorough frayer. 145 00:33:55,710 --> 00:33:56,170 Okay. 146 00:33:56,290 --> 00:33:57,070 It's shown. 147 00:33:58,530 --> 00:34:00,050 I guess we're in objection to that. 148 00:34:00,410 --> 00:34:01,050 Connection. 149 00:34:01,330 --> 00:34:01,530 Okay. 150 00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:07,430 We have a private road, not a public road. 151 00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:13,090 I think maybe you're under the assumption it was a public road, maybe. 152 00:34:15,850 --> 00:34:21,230 Okay, and should we move this one from the expedited move it to the? 153 00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:31,170 Well, I believe Mr. Whitaker, who is handling this case, was going to come on on this? 154 00:34:31,410 --> 00:34:36,550 Yes, what I'd like to do, we're going to, I'm going to ask for the furl for this case for 30 days, 155 00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:41,450 because some stuff that came up in the last few days, Mrs. Peace, as you know, 156 00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:47,370 office and some things came up that I wouldn't aware of, so I'm asking for the furl, 157 00:34:48,270 --> 00:34:49,310 for this case tonight. 158 00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:49,890 Okay. 159 00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:51,750 So it won't be heard tonight. 160 00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:52,410 Oh, okay. 161 00:34:52,650 --> 00:34:53,970 If they agree with it. 162 00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:54,210 Okay. 163 00:34:54,410 --> 00:34:55,310 We have to make a motion. 164 00:34:55,550 --> 00:34:56,090 I'll approve that. 165 00:34:56,670 --> 00:34:58,350 We have to make a motion to that. 166 00:34:59,310 --> 00:34:59,490 Okay. 167 00:34:59,650 --> 00:34:59,990 Thank you. 168 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,740 Thank you for coming forward. 169 00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:09,020 Okay, so we must examine if you want to proceed. 170 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,840 Or we proceed with the expedited agenda. We do have another request from an applicant for deferral. 171 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:24,140 It's for C-2314C, the big out-development company. I'll see and this is located in the Chica Harmony Magisterial District. 172 00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:32,860 Okay, are there any questions from the Commission on this? 173 00:35:32,860 --> 00:35:36,200 Mr. President, that Mr. President, I believe this is your district. 174 00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:37,880 Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman. 175 00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:50,900 I move the K.C. 23-14 C. Bigger the Dalton company LLC be deferred until our January meeting. 176 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,900 I have a motion by Mr. Pageant that we have a second. 177 00:35:54,980 --> 00:35:56,980 It's not going to be a second by Mr. Wordaker. 178 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Any questions from the commission? 179 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:06,940 to see a note we're called for the vote. All in favour say aye. All opposed for granted. 180 00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:09,340 Mr. Chairman. Yes. 181 00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:13,840 I would like to ask for a deferral. 182 00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:21,440 We'll see 21-15 Gotzi properties incorporated until next month. Next schedule meeting. 183 00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:27,300 Thank you, Mr. Whitaker. Any questions from the commission on Mr. Whitaker's request? 184 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:27,980 So 185 00:36:30,570 --> 00:36:33,050 we have a motion by Mr. Worker that we have a second. 186 00:36:33,370 --> 00:36:36,250 So we have a motion by Mr. Pageant. 187 00:36:36,430 --> 00:36:37,890 All in favor say aye. 188 00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:39,750 All opposed. 189 00:36:48,070 --> 00:36:50,210 Mr. Chairman, members of Planting Commission. 190 00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:55,890 First item on the expedited agenda is C594C amendment 115. 191 00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:59,230 Request by Charlene Orbatov and Living Trust. 192 00:37:00,010 --> 00:37:02,410 It's in the Tangal Oaks subdivision. 193 00:37:02,410 --> 00:37:09,310 It's a request to amend the proffers that were approved with rezoning request C594. 194 00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:19,910 So located on G-Pin 8705507334 currently zoned R2C single-family residential district 195 00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:20,990 with conditions. 196 00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:27,430 So located on the north line of Tangled Ridge Drive, approximately 600 feet east of its intersection 197 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:29,890 with Tangled Oak Drive. 198 00:37:29,890 --> 00:37:33,530 The probe posed zoning amendment would amend the cash 199 00:37:33,530 --> 00:37:34,330 proffer. 200 00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:39,390 This is located in the McCannisville Magisterial District. 201 00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:44,550 Staff does recommend approvals subject to the proffer submitted, which are in accordance 202 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:47,210 with the board's adopted transportation policy. 203 00:37:47,850 --> 00:37:50,710 Be happy to address any questions you may have on this case. 204 00:37:51,930 --> 00:37:54,470 Thank you, Mr. Garmin, or any questions from the commission. 205 00:37:55,950 --> 00:38:00,630 Seeing none will open the floor for the public hearing, is the applicant present? 206 00:38:03,130 --> 00:38:06,510 Since the applicant is not present, we will assume that they are in agreement. 207 00:38:08,110 --> 00:38:11,830 Is there anyone here that would like to speak for against this case? 208 00:38:20,770 --> 00:38:27,230 Mr. Chairman, once again, the speakers are going to have to come to the podium to ask the questions. 209 00:38:28,530 --> 00:38:29,450 Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 210 00:38:31,340 --> 00:38:33,480 Please state your name and your district, please. 211 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,560 It's James Ballinger, and I live off Eleanor Drive, I'm not sure what district. 212 00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:41,140 I was notified for this. 213 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:41,400 Okay. 214 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,900 Thank you. 215 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:47,520 My question was with respect to the zoning change from R2C. 216 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,660 I just don't know what it changes with respect to that property that's near my home. 217 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:55,920 Mr. Garmin, if you want to. 218 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,980 It's a cash proper amendment. 219 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,040 When the applicant originally rezoned this property, there was one amount. 220 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,780 The board adopted a new policy where they gave the applicant's opportunity to reduce that cash 221 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:12,640 profit amount, and that's what the zoning request amendment is. 222 00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:14,420 It's no change to the property. 223 00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:19,520 It's actually the amount that's paid at the time of a certificate of occupancy when the 224 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,300 house is constructed. 225 00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:29,360 Is there anyone else that would like to speak on this case? 226 00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:35,580 Seeing none who are closed, the public hearing, doing the commissioners have any comments. 227 00:39:37,090 --> 00:39:40,010 Mr. Whitaker, we'll turn this over to you. 228 00:39:40,590 --> 00:39:47,890 Okay, I'd like to recommend approval for C-Dash 5-94C, Sharlene Art, Beethoven, Living Trust, 229 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:51,730 subject to the proper date of November 20th, 2015. 230 00:39:52,990 --> 00:39:53,610 Thank you, Mr. Whitaker. 231 00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:56,130 We have a motion about Mr. Whitaker that we have a second. 232 00:39:56,190 --> 00:39:56,630 Second. 233 00:39:57,150 --> 00:39:58,270 Second by Mr. Bailey. 234 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:12,420 I'm going to come to questions from the commission. Seeing none, we're called for the vote. All in favour, say aye. Aye, aye, all of those motion passes. Mr. Garmin, next case. 235 00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:22,480 The next item, C. 2915C, Sheila Fleming. It's a request to reason from A1 agricultural to AR6 agricultural residential with conditions. 236 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:32,400 on GPM 7708, 065567, consists of approximately 5.77 acres, so located on the east line 237 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:40,800 of Watkins Road, approximately 1,150 feet north of its intersection with Dogwood Trail Road. 238 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,880 So, object property is designated on the general annual use plan map as agricultural. 239 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:52,740 Post-Zoning Amendment would permit one additional family law, one additional lot for a family member. 240 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:59,640 Staff does recommend approval subject to the Prophors and conceptual plan with revisions as recommended. 241 00:41:00,980 --> 00:41:05,980 And I will advise the Commission that the applicant has revised that conceptual plan. 242 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,220 Just the Prophors need to be changed to reflect the revision date on that plan. 243 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:22,700 I'm not sure it was a recent week submitted conceptual plan with the change that was recommended by staff. 244 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,060 And on the proffers, they just need to reference that revision date. 245 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,720 Thank you, Mr. Governor. Are there any questions from the commission? 246 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,600 to know we'll open the floor for the public hearing, is the applicant present? 247 00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:42,860 Did I hear yes? 248 00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:43,880 Yes, ma'am. 249 00:41:49,850 --> 00:41:51,430 Please state your name and your district. 250 00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:53,330 Are you? 251 00:41:53,370 --> 00:41:53,870 Ms. Prior. 252 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:56,150 And you're from South Island District. 253 00:41:57,570 --> 00:41:58,150 Thank you. 254 00:41:58,570 --> 00:42:00,850 And you are in agreement with the staff report. 255 00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:01,650 Yes. 256 00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:02,790 You're a familiar with the last system. 257 00:42:03,070 --> 00:42:03,290 Okay. 258 00:42:04,090 --> 00:42:04,250 Okay. 259 00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:05,150 Thank you very much. 260 00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:09,650 Is there anyone here that would like to speak 261 00:42:09,650 --> 00:42:12,090 and support our opposition of this case? 262 00:42:13,690 --> 00:42:17,970 Seeing none where I close the public hearing, are there any questions from the commission? 263 00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:30,010 Seeing none, this is in my district, so I'd like to make a motion on KC-221-29-15C 264 00:42:30,010 --> 00:42:30,890 Sheila Fleming. 265 00:42:31,870 --> 00:42:35,530 The NAD has submitted but approved with the provisions to the Prophecy and Conceptual 266 00:42:35,530 --> 00:42:38,210 Plan with the Revised Date as Mr. Garmin stated. 267 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:40,890 Motion made. 268 00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:43,870 Second, Bob, Mr. Windborne, 269 00:42:46,010 --> 00:42:47,330 are there any questions from the commission? 270 00:42:48,290 --> 00:42:51,170 Seeing none, we're called for the vote. All in favour, say aye. 271 00:42:52,010 --> 00:42:54,410 Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. 272 00:42:56,590 --> 00:42:57,690 Mr. Garmin, next case. 273 00:42:58,250 --> 00:43:01,430 The next item is C-31-15C. 274 00:43:01,630 --> 00:43:04,490 Request from Ida M and Edward E. Price. 275 00:43:04,930 --> 00:43:09,250 It's a request to reason from A-1 agricultural district to A-R-6C. 276 00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:20,590 Agricultural residential with conditions on G-PIN 782-977-6754 consists of approximately 5.97 acres, 277 00:43:21,110 --> 00:43:26,650 and located on the east line of Goshen Road approximately 575 feet north of the sea, 278 00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:31,690 intersection with Geese Lake Lane. Subject property is designated on the general 279 00:43:31,690 --> 00:43:37,590 land use plan as agricultural. Proposed zoning amendment would permit the creation of one additional 280 00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:44,690 building lot for density of one dwelling unit per 2.9 acres. Staff does recommend approvals 281 00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:49,690 subject to the submitted Prophors. We happy to address any questions you may have on this 282 00:43:49,690 --> 00:43:52,670 case. Thank you, Mr. Garmin. Any questions from the commission? 283 00:43:55,490 --> 00:43:56,850 Seeing none will open the public 284 00:43:56,850 --> 00:44:02,630 hearing. There's the applicant present. Would you please come forward? 285 00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:13,880 Because of new technology, 286 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,420 We have to ask you to come forward now. I'm sorry. 287 00:44:21,620 --> 00:44:24,200 If you please just state your name in your district. 288 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:35,040 I'd appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Price. I'm yall in favor of the staff report. 289 00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:37,300 Thank you very much. 290 00:44:37,660 --> 00:44:37,940 Thank you. 291 00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:45,270 Is there anyone here that would like to speak against or in support of this case? 292 00:44:46,990 --> 00:44:51,450 Seeing none will close the public hearing for any questions from the commission. 293 00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:55,330 Seeing none, but simultaneously, this is your district. 294 00:44:57,470 --> 00:44:59,490 Recommendation of approval. 295 00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:11,700 C-301, 15, C-I-2M, and E-Bud E-Price. Approved subject to this committed process dated November 19, 2015. 296 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,360 Thank you, Ms. Overson. We have a motion by Ms. Overson. Do we have a second? 297 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,440 Second by Mr. Pageant. Any questions from the Commission? 298 00:45:21,940 --> 00:45:24,640 Seeing none, we'll call for the vote. All in favour, say aye. 299 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,740 All opposed? 300 00:45:27,340 --> 00:45:28,840 Motion carries. 301 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,220 Robin? 302 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,720 Yes, sirs. 303 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:34,000 C-30-07-C. 304 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,160 Amendment 115. 305 00:45:35,980 --> 00:45:37,220 Request from San Dr. C. 306 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,600 An Emmett R. Stanley. 307 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,800 To amend the Prophors approved with 308 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,220 Resonion Request C-30-07. 309 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,760 On G-PN-87-37-06-815-9, 310 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,760 consists of approximately two acres, 311 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,840 zone to AR-6 agricultural residential district with conditions and 312 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:01,080 located on the south line of Williamsville Acres Lane, approximately 300 feet east of 313 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,580 its intersection with Williamsville Road. Subject property is designated as 314 00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:10,240 agricultural and a general land use plan map. Proposed on your amendment would 315 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:15,740 eliminate the proper requiring that a family member built on this property. Staff 316 00:46:15,740 --> 00:46:19,680 That does recommend approval subject to the revised Prophors submitted. 317 00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:22,980 Be happy to address any questions you may have on this case. 318 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,240 Thank you, Mr. Garmin. 319 00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:25,920 Are there any questions from the Commission? 320 00:46:28,220 --> 00:46:33,660 Seeing that we'll open the floor for the public hearing is the applicant present, which 321 00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:36,220 please come forward and state your name. 322 00:46:37,060 --> 00:46:38,660 Andrew Stanley, Henry Dister. 323 00:46:39,460 --> 00:46:40,160 Thank you, Mr. Stanley. 324 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,100 Are you in support of the staff's recommendation? 325 00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:45,100 Thank you very much. 326 00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:51,360 Is there anyone here that would like to speak in opposition or support of this case? 327 00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,600 Seeing none, we will close the public care in any comments from the commission. 328 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,980 Seeing none, we will turn this out with Mr. Bailey this year district. 329 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,760 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 330 00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:13,200 I would like to recommend to the commission approval of case C-3007C, amendment 115, 331 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,360 and Sandra Sea and Emrodlar Stanley. 332 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,920 Subject to the Propeiras-Dated, 333 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,760 November 16th, 2015. 334 00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:22,870 Thank you, Mr. Bailey. 335 00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:25,090 We will motion by Mr. Bailey, do we have a second, 336 00:47:25,930 --> 00:47:27,350 second by Mr. Arvison? 337 00:47:28,270 --> 00:47:29,990 Any questions from the Commission? 338 00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:33,750 I'm seeing none more call for the all-in-Vavers PI? 339 00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:35,530 All opposed. 340 00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:38,830 Mr. Garman next case. 341 00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:43,220 C-401-C amendment 115. 342 00:47:43,220 --> 00:47:46,700 Request from Lewis Town Commerce Center, LLC. 343 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,740 It's for an amendment to the Prophors and Conceptual Plan 344 00:47:49,740 --> 00:47:53,540 to prove with rezoning request C401C. 345 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,980 It's located on G-PIN 7788, 626131. 346 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,660 Consists approximately 6.07 acres. 347 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,000 It's currently zoned M2, Light, Industrial District 348 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,680 with Conditions, and is located on the East Line 349 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,060 of Lake Ridge Parkway. 350 00:48:11,060 --> 00:48:16,560 Approximately, 0.8th of a mile south of its intersection with Lewis Town Road. 351 00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:21,960 Subject property is designated on the General Lane use plan map as destination commerce. 352 00:48:22,740 --> 00:48:36,000 Ptozoni Amendment is to reason the property from M2, with conditions to B3 general business district, with conditions, to allow commercial use to similar to other B3 parcels in the winding broke development. 353 00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:46,420 Staff does recommend and I'll submit it, but approval subject to the proper submitted and revisions to the conceptual plan is recommended in the staff report. 354 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,820 Be happy to address any questions you may have on this case. 355 00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:55,320 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Any questions from the commission at this time? 356 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,140 Seeing no will open the public hearing. Is the applicant present? 357 00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:05,120 Please come forward and state your name. 358 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:05,540 The 359 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,540 names with holiday properties and those telecomers center. 360 00:49:13,060 --> 00:49:13,600 Thank you, Ms. Taines. 361 00:49:14,060 --> 00:49:17,180 Are you in favor of the stage recommendation? 362 00:49:18,140 --> 00:49:18,740 Thank you very much. 363 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,840 Thank you. 364 00:49:22,830 --> 00:49:26,530 Is there anyone here that would like to speak in opposition or support of this case? 365 00:49:29,980 --> 00:49:32,240 Seeing none, we will close the public hearing. 366 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,760 Through the commission, we have any comments. 367 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,660 Seeing none, this is in my district. 368 00:49:39,660 --> 00:49:51,280 And I would like to make a motion on KC-4-01, AM-1-15, Lewis Town, Commercial, Commerce Center, 369 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,120 LLC. 370 00:49:53,620 --> 00:50:00,000 Now, let's submit it, but approve subject to the Prophet, submit it in November to 18th, 2015, and the recommend. 371 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:10,340 The change to the conceptual plan dated November 2015, and revised November 18, 2015, as discussed in the summary of a stand-in issue. 372 00:50:11,540 --> 00:50:13,580 We have a motion. Do we have a second? 373 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,520 Second, Mr. Whitaker. 374 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,480 Are there any questions from the commission? 375 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,820 The amount we're all for the vote. All in favor say aye. 376 00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:26,000 Aye. All opposed? Motion passes. 377 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:30,880 Next case. 378 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,500 The final item on your expedited agenda. 379 00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:37,500 Cup 713 amendment 115, 380 00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:41,740 Quest by Universal Environmental Services LLC, 381 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:48,000 to amend the conditional use permit in accordance with section 26-183.9 382 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,660 of the Hanover County Zoning Ordnance. 383 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,900 To permit, petroleum storage on G-pins 7788, 384 00:50:55,900 --> 00:51:05,860 7, 3, 8, 0, 4, 8 part, consists of approximately 0.44 of acres, zoned M3 having an industrial district. 385 00:51:06,340 --> 00:51:13,480 It's located on the south line of Air Park Road, approximately 350 feet east of its intersection with progress road. 386 00:51:14,180 --> 00:51:18,060 Subject property is designated as industrial and general land use plan. 387 00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:22,320 Staff does recommend approval subject to the recommended conditions. 388 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,180 be happy to address any questions you may have on this case. 389 00:51:26,620 --> 00:51:29,120 Thank you, Mr. Garmin. Are there any questions from the Commission? 390 00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:35,840 Seeing none will open the floor for the public hearing. Is the applicant present? 391 00:51:39,780 --> 00:51:43,340 Seeing the applicants not here will seem there in agreement with the staff's recommendation 392 00:51:43,340 --> 00:51:48,280 is there. Anyone here that would like to speak in opposition or support of this case? 393 00:51:50,590 --> 00:51:55,730 Seeing none, we will close the public hearing. Do the commissioners have any comments or 394 00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:56,150 questions? 395 00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:58,690 I'd like to ask one question Mr. Chairman. 396 00:52:00,790 --> 00:52:06,030 Do you know how much petroleum will be stored here? 397 00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:11,720 I believe it holds a total of 55,000 gallons. 398 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,660 That's for all the tanks. 399 00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:15,900 All the tanks. 400 00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:18,100 And they will be in ground, right? 401 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,620 No, they're above ground. 402 00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:22,580 Okay, thanks for the answer to the question. 403 00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:24,340 Thank you, Mr. Morgan. 404 00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:26,240 Any other questions from the permission? 405 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:39,380 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For Cup 7-13, amendments 1-15, Universal Environmental Services 406 00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:44,720 LLC. I'd like to recommend approval subject to the conditions as outlined in the 407 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:45,400 staff report. 408 00:52:47,060 --> 00:52:53,540 We have a motion by Mr. Windborne, do we have a second? Second by Mr. Bailey. Are there 409 00:52:53,540 --> 00:52:55,520 any questions from the commission. 410 00:52:56,460 --> 00:52:59,700 Seeing none will call for the vote, all in favour say aye. 411 00:53:00,740 --> 00:53:01,400 All opposed? 412 00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:02,880 Motion passes. 413 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,140 There are ex-case. 414 00:53:12,460 --> 00:53:16,640 To request C-2215C, it's request from Bernard E. 415 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,480 Clary, Junior, and others. 416 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,960 Located in the Henry Magisteria District, it's request 417 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,100 to reason to R.S. single-family residential district 418 00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:26,060 with conditions. 419 00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:29,040 Located on the North line of Paul Green Road, 420 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:35,400 Approximately 75 feet west of its intersection with the rural point roads currently zoned a one-agricultural 421 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,240 And since of approximately 39.57 acres 422 00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:46,340 Planned youth plan designates this is suburban general, which allows up to one-to-four dwelling units per acre 423 00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:55,180 The subject area is that which is in the red hatched on the map 424 00:53:56,380 --> 00:54:03,880 The applicant is proposing 103 single-family homes for a gross density of 2.6 units per acre. 425 00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:08,580 Proposed lots are consistent with other developments in the vicinity. 426 00:54:10,460 --> 00:54:14,520 7.92 acres of open space is being provided. 427 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:21,060 Staff does recommend some additional detail for the amenities that are being proposed for this open space. 428 00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:27,680 And it also concludes 1.59 acres of active open area. 429 00:54:28,980 --> 00:54:35,340 Plan does show street trees, lighting, and pedestrian paths that are in accordance with the district requirements. 430 00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:43,620 There's currently a private access easement through the subject property to an adjoining process. 431 00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:50,180 If it access drives are not allowed in the RS District, but the conceptual plan doesn't 432 00:54:50,180 --> 00:54:55,820 note that this easement will be vacated prior to recordation of that section of the subdivision, 433 00:54:56,620 --> 00:54:59,880 and a joining lot will be provided public road access. 434 00:55:01,390 --> 00:55:08,150 There are two entrances proposed to this development from Paul Green Road that do meet V dot specifications. 435 00:55:08,830 --> 00:55:17,870 The entrance headlines with midday lane in the legacy park, development across Paul Green Road will include an eastbound left turn lane into the site, 436 00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:28,930 with a maximum allow, with the maximum allowable storage and taper. The southbound, there will also be a southbound left exiting lane from the site. 437 00:55:29,790 --> 00:55:35,950 Traffic impact analysis was conducted and indicates that there are no needed improvements 438 00:55:35,950 --> 00:55:40,950 at the intersection of pole green and lead Davis Road as a result of this development. 439 00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:46,490 And that's because the development would not generate the traffic that would drop the service level 440 00:55:46,490 --> 00:55:50,110 at the center section below D during peak hours. 441 00:55:52,650 --> 00:55:58,390 The applicant has agreed to install, signage that instructs traffic not to block the intersection 442 00:55:58,390 --> 00:56:02,170 and created at the whole green road midway lane 443 00:56:02,170 --> 00:56:04,850 and with the primary entrance in this development. 444 00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:10,250 B.I. have no comments regarding the traffic impact analysis 445 00:56:10,250 --> 00:56:12,950 for the proposed improvements for this development. 446 00:56:18,050 --> 00:56:18,930 Who, oriented, 447 00:56:27,370 --> 00:56:29,030 person is not coming up out of here, 448 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:35,840 but, Paul Green Road is just to this, 449 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:44,460 here we go. 450 00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:47,340 Thank you, David, I got it this time. 451 00:56:47,340 --> 00:56:51,200 Paul Green Road right along through here. 452 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,980 This would be the primary entrance into the project, 453 00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:58,500 midday lane and legacy park over here. 454 00:56:58,660 --> 00:57:00,320 Here's a secondary entrance. 455 00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:03,100 As you can see, the development lots. 456 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,580 There's open space with a wet pond right here 457 00:57:07,580 --> 00:57:09,700 at the entrance, another open space. 458 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,340 A few little pocket open space 459 00:57:12,340 --> 00:57:14,200 located throughout the development. 460 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:32,860 And also a natural buffer area, a buffer area that will be left in its natural state, supplemented with additional vegetation, and that adjoins the historic white chimneys formed to the north and to a historic cemetery that's located to the east. 461 00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:44,290 Allivations have been provided that show materials for the homes to include stone, brick, shake, and sighting. 462 00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:49,490 Grage's are located both on the front of the buildings and on the sides. 463 00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:55,040 For you are a few of the elevations that's been provided. 464 00:57:55,940 --> 00:57:59,300 That would be typical of this development showing the materials proposed. 465 00:58:01,980 --> 00:58:05,040 There was a community meeting held October 8, 2015. 466 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:11,720 Some of the issues raised at this meeting include the traffic at the intersection of Paul Green and Lee Davis Road. 467 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,560 And also a buffer that should be provided between the property and the adjoining form to the north. 468 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,780 The historical commission determined that preserving the existing trees 469 00:58:23,780 --> 00:58:31,320 and the proposed buffers would help protect the viewshed of nearby white chimneys in historic Paul Green Church. 470 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:40,290 The Prophors with this case include contributions to road improvements, minimum house size, 471 00:58:40,570 --> 00:58:45,610 foundations, dedication of right away, transportation improvements that were identified 472 00:58:45,610 --> 00:58:47,510 in the traffic impact analysis. 473 00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:53,750 Staff does recommend a revision to the transportation improvements proper that would include 474 00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:58,250 the do not block intersection signage that the applicant has agreed to install. 475 00:58:59,330 --> 00:59:05,530 Scott does recommend the denial as submitted, but approval subject to the changes to the 476 00:59:05,530 --> 00:59:09,830 proper submitted, the sexual plan as outlined in the staff report. 477 00:59:10,650 --> 00:59:14,810 Staff would also mention that this conceptual plan does meet the requirements for a preliminary 478 00:59:14,810 --> 00:59:15,990 plat approval. 479 00:59:17,050 --> 00:59:20,530 Staff will be happy to address any questions you may have on this case. 480 00:59:23,550 --> 00:59:24,590 Thank you, Mr. Garmin. 481 00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:27,190 Are there any questions from the commission? 482 00:59:31,220 --> 00:59:36,160 See and none is the applicant for us, please come forward and state your name. 483 00:59:52,190 --> 00:59:55,970 Good evening Mr. Chairman ladies and gentlemen, my name is Jim Thia ball and I'm here this evening. 484 00:59:56,170 --> 00:59:58,670 On behalf of Paul Green Development Company, LLC. 485 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,240 This is a request to reason of approximately forty-eight years from A1 to RS with substantial 486 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:12,700 proper conditions. This property has been known for some time by sort of an extended group 487 01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:19,160 or the majority of the properties, somewhat longer than 50 years. And the request is to develop 488 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:24,600 an upscale community of 102 homes or is one existing home that will remain on the property, 489 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,040 resulting in 103 total. 490 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,920 This is well within the density guidelines of your land use plan. 491 01:00:33,580 --> 01:00:37,900 So both the use and the density of the proposal is consistent with that plan. 492 01:00:39,340 --> 01:00:39,940 Next slide please. 493 01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:44,490 The site is on the north side of Paul Green Road, 494 01:00:44,550 --> 01:00:46,890 generally between real-point road and Lee Davis Road. 495 01:00:47,210 --> 01:00:50,930 This is the next slide is a little bit of a 496 01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:53,390 of a close-up also showing the entrance section. 497 01:00:54,090 --> 01:00:54,550 Next one please. 498 01:00:54,550 --> 01:01:00,450 And just note on the concept plan that this depicts a community primarily of cold-to-sac type 499 01:01:00,450 --> 01:01:05,290 streets, but providing potential of future connection to property to the north, should 500 01:01:05,290 --> 01:01:11,990 that develop, as well as two points of ingress and egress from pole green road in order 501 01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:13,590 to better disperse cars. 502 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,600 The plan shows buffers against adjacent properties and a 50-foot landscape buffer along 503 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,920 pole green along with street lights and a trail. 504 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,280 We've also shown approximately seven and a half acres of open space throughout. 505 01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:36,700 You'll note, green space around the BMP facility, the neopold green road, and some centralized 506 01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:43,220 green areas that will include things like benches and possibly gazibos and things like 507 01:01:43,220 --> 01:01:47,940 that for passive recreational gathering type areas. 508 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:57,660 next please. This shows the entrance section of a long pole green or coming off of a pole 509 01:01:57,660 --> 01:02:05,600 green with plantings at the entrances next please. It's a project identification signage 510 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:10,580 very upscale community to sort of announce you've arrived home, create a sense of place next. 511 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:18,480 And then this is our cross-section showing the grass strip, the sidewalk, and the planting strip of 512 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:19,600 long pole green road. 513 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,980 This is a 50-foot planted buffer along pole green next place. 514 01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:32,240 And the elevations of the homes, Lee has shown you those, they're generally craftsmen style, 515 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:38,140 a little bit of tweak on that style next place, but they're high-quality materials, high design, 516 01:02:38,140 --> 01:02:41,640 lots of different roof treatments for an architectural interest. 517 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,900 Prophors include minimum house sizes of 1,800 square feet for 1 story, homes, 518 01:02:48,220 --> 01:02:50,080 2,200 square feet for 2 stories. 519 01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:53,080 Transportation improvements have been provided. 520 01:02:53,340 --> 01:03:00,460 The entrances we have agreed to provide that signage to keep traffic from blocking the 521 01:03:00,460 --> 01:03:04,160 full crossover there opposite midday. 522 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,220 BDAH has tentatively said that that is fine. 523 01:03:07,340 --> 01:03:11,880 I want to see the final detail, but we have touched that base with them and staff. 524 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,200 Most importantly, in this case, we all know that there's a traffic on whole green, 525 01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:20,120 but we have proper $6,356 per home. 526 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,440 That's a total of $673,311. 527 01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:29,960 Over the development of the property is a contribution towards area roads. 528 01:03:30,980 --> 01:03:36,740 We have submitted a traffic state that indicates minimal impacts on area traffic with levels of service, 529 01:03:37,020 --> 01:03:40,920 mostly remaining the same or clearly within an acceptable range. 530 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,300 And some of this request is consistent with your land use plan. 531 01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:48,840 Has the support of your professional planning staff? 532 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,460 We'll have a minimum impact on your roads and your schools. 533 01:03:53,300 --> 01:03:56,840 We're also pleased to announce that award-winning mainstream homes. 534 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,600 It will be the builder of these homes. 535 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:05,320 You may be familiar about the Richmond metropolitan community, very fortunate to have that. 536 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,560 I would respectfully request it to recommend approval of this case to the Board of Supervisors. 537 01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:14,980 I would be happy to answer any questions. 538 01:04:16,260 --> 01:04:17,280 Thank you, Mr. Vibbo. 539 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,600 Are there any questions for the applicant? 540 01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:24,110 I don't believe we have any at this time. 541 01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:25,410 Thank you. 542 01:04:28,100 --> 01:04:31,940 Is there anyone here that would like to speak in support of this case? 543 01:04:34,660 --> 01:04:40,000 Seeing none is there in anyone that he will let just speak in opposition of this case. 544 01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:41,340 To please conform. 545 01:04:47,010 --> 01:04:48,450 Please state your name and you. 546 01:04:48,650 --> 01:04:51,030 I'm in the Henry District, Joe St. John. 547 01:04:51,310 --> 01:04:53,830 I live in Hill, Meadows, my property backs up to it. 548 01:04:53,930 --> 01:04:56,570 I want you to pop that map back up there. 549 01:04:58,720 --> 01:04:59,560 He's stated that. 550 01:05:01,070 --> 01:05:12,640 The fees properties will be similar to the properties surrounding it, and once it gets the hills, meadows, yeah, that's a good one, think that'll work, you do that there. 551 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:25,440 But you can see we are on, right, one acre lots, and here they're putting close to three houses per acre that are 2.6, is that what it says? 552 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,240 2.6 per acre. 553 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,060 And the reason that we are in opposition to it is, I mean we definitely know how the traffic is. 554 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:44,240 And this will impact the traffic, but also I'm afraid that they put a cheaper type house like this. 555 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:53,420 I mean we live in brick homes in this subdivision and their average around 500,000 dollars a home. 556 01:05:53,420 --> 01:06:04,940 And when they put these houses in behind us, we're afraid that it will take all the value away that we've put into our own properties. 557 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,420 So this is why an opposition to this many houses going into there. 558 01:06:11,580 --> 01:06:20,620 Now if you put a better house with a higher price and a little more acreage, I think it would be a doable thing. 559 01:06:20,620 --> 01:06:26,560 But it is not in keeping with that subdivision that is backed right up to it. 560 01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:29,370 Thank you very much. 561 01:06:32,660 --> 01:06:36,600 Is there anyone else here that would like to speak in opposition? Please come forward. 562 01:06:41,150 --> 01:06:41,710 Please state your name. 563 01:06:42,030 --> 01:06:44,430 Steve, how come in Henry District? 564 01:06:45,070 --> 01:06:48,250 And I'm glad Mr. St. John spoke because it takes a lot. 565 01:06:48,370 --> 01:06:51,310 It's almost identical to what I was going to say. 566 01:06:52,250 --> 01:06:55,750 But my wife would probably yell at me if I didn't get up here at least to say something. 567 01:06:56,670 --> 01:06:57,530 She couldn't be here tonight. 568 01:06:57,530 --> 01:07:02,810 But my house butts up to the property on the north-west side 569 01:07:02,810 --> 01:07:05,330 I've got 10 acres on a big home. 570 01:07:05,950 --> 01:07:10,230 And our concerns are simply, you know, we're not 571 01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:12,730 against the whole development or anything like that, 572 01:07:12,730 --> 01:07:13,710 which is concerned. 573 01:07:14,810 --> 01:07:19,490 It doesn't make sense to me that this would not affect 574 01:07:19,490 --> 01:07:22,790 the traffic on the O Green Road, because all that 575 01:07:22,790 --> 01:07:24,970 live around there have, you know, we all 576 01:07:24,970 --> 01:07:26,910 I'll complain to each other all the time about the traffic. 577 01:07:27,130 --> 01:07:29,930 It's extreme amount of traffic and the whole green road. 578 01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:32,250 And especially right at that intersection. 579 01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:35,910 So we're just, I'm just wondering where we're getting our figures, 580 01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:38,530 and who's saying everything is within the guidelines, 581 01:07:38,850 --> 01:07:40,650 because it just doesn't seem to add up. 582 01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:43,010 The only other concern I have is the same thing, 583 01:07:43,250 --> 01:07:48,090 is that it seems to be an awful high-density development, 584 01:07:49,070 --> 01:07:53,610 where all the surrounding properties are all on one to four acres 585 01:07:53,610 --> 01:08:00,650 with bigger homes, so it's kind of a negative impact on all those properties, as well as 586 01:08:00,650 --> 01:08:07,130 seeming to be fairly an awful lot of traffic to that road, so pretty much in line with 587 01:08:07,130 --> 01:08:14,070 what Mr. St. John had to say, and not in opposition to the development, just in opposition 588 01:08:14,070 --> 01:08:18,250 to the density and the size of home and the traffic problems. 589 01:08:18,770 --> 01:08:19,570 Thank you, Mr. 590 01:08:21,820 --> 01:08:22,300 Chairman. 591 01:08:22,300 --> 01:08:25,160 Is there anyone else that would like to speak in the opposition? 592 01:08:32,060 --> 01:08:33,960 Please, stage a name in your location. 593 01:08:35,980 --> 01:08:38,260 Jeff Alexander, I'm upset in Henry District. 594 01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:40,900 Chairman and members of the kind of accounting planning commission. 595 01:08:41,140 --> 01:08:44,760 Thank you for the opportunity to speak for a goard to the resounding of the clear property 596 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:45,420 public hearing. 597 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,020 C-22-15C. 598 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,280 I'm Jeff Alexander and I represent the Alexander Realty LLC, 599 01:08:52,540 --> 01:08:56,000 which in its property adjacent to the personal question in addition to 600 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,020 of other properties along Pol Green Road. 601 01:08:58,660 --> 01:09:00,120 One of our main concerns of this potential 602 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,320 rezoning is a traffic impact on already heavily 603 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,940 traffic, Pol Green Road. 604 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,020 During a typical evening rush hour, 605 01:09:07,180 --> 01:09:08,880 eastbound traffic backs up from the intersection 606 01:09:09,420 --> 01:09:12,100 with Lee Davis Road to an area between Bill Creek Road 607 01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:15,540 and Interstate 295, a distance up to two miles. 608 01:09:16,340 --> 01:09:17,660 Morning traffic congestion is similar 609 01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:18,720 in the Westbound direction. 610 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,340 The effect of this rezoning will ultimately add 611 01:09:21,340 --> 01:09:23,940 in a district of 1,000 vehicle trips per day, 612 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,840 which will certainly add to the traffic congestion 613 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,560 long cold green road. 614 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,700 No mention the report is made to alleviate the extra traffic burden on existing homeowners. 615 01:09:32,860 --> 01:09:37,280 In addition, we feel that the 20-foot buffer between historic white chimneys and the 616 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,840 rezoning parcel is insufficient. 617 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,620 We asked the commission to reject this rezoning request until the traffic issues and the 618 01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:47,920 buffer issues along traffic issues along cold green road and the buffer issues have been 619 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:48,200 addressed. 620 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:49,400 Thank you. 621 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:49,940 Thank you. 622 01:09:50,340 --> 01:09:55,200 Is there anyone else that would like to speak in opposition? 623 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,200 In none, Mr. Embo, would you like to re-bottle? 624 01:10:05,890 --> 01:10:11,930 Yes, briefly, please, Mr. Chairman, your staff reports, sets forth on the second page, the relative 625 01:10:11,930 --> 01:10:18,010 lot sizes of homes around the subject property, and while there are some larger homes up to the north 626 01:10:18,010 --> 01:10:22,770 and to the west, there is also some smaller lots and legacy park narrative place, and sharing 627 01:10:22,770 --> 01:10:30,710 to them is set forth in your staff report. And please keep in mind that your land use plan, 628 01:10:30,710 --> 01:10:33,810 which is a guide suggested that this development 629 01:10:33,810 --> 01:10:36,730 would be appropriate at one to four units per acre, 630 01:10:36,910 --> 01:10:41,290 and we're generally right in the middle of that at 2.6. 631 01:10:42,270 --> 01:10:43,450 The buffer along the northwest, 632 01:10:43,650 --> 01:10:46,710 we've profit a 20-foot buffer against white chimneys. 633 01:10:47,010 --> 01:10:48,890 That area is all wooded. 634 01:10:49,170 --> 01:10:50,970 We can leave those trees. 635 01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:53,610 That area I understand is predominantly farmed 636 01:10:53,610 --> 01:10:59,050 and the concern was that they didn't want people complaining 637 01:10:59,050 --> 01:11:04,690 about farming activities which I understand at the same time I think you have it right to develop 638 01:11:04,690 --> 01:11:09,910 your property and sure as I'm standing here one day they'll be before you and maybe I'll 639 01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:16,030 get a chance to represent them but in any event we have provided that buffer and it is a heavily 640 01:11:16,030 --> 01:11:24,990 treat buffer traffic you all know a poll drain is like in some respects you know what this 641 01:11:24,990 --> 01:11:30,770 case suffers from is the last guy in, right, because your traffic issues are all background traffic. 642 01:11:31,210 --> 01:11:37,250 I mean, this request sounds about 30 to 40 cars during the peak hour towards Lee Davis. 643 01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:43,270 A thousand trips a day reference is over a 24 hour period in my trip, of course, as you know, 644 01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:49,850 one car going out is one, that same car going in is two, and so they get double counted. 645 01:11:49,850 --> 01:11:59,010 But traffic studies should, during the peak-hour trips, small number of cars added to a large 646 01:11:59,010 --> 01:12:00,950 amount of background traffic. 647 01:12:01,550 --> 01:12:08,270 No road improvements were suggested, Paul Green Road, we've talked to Mike Flag, and it's 648 01:12:08,270 --> 01:12:08,850 in the queue. 649 01:12:09,090 --> 01:12:17,010 At some point you've applied for funds to begin design of future improvements, but we've provided 650 01:12:17,010 --> 01:12:24,490 to turn lanes at that main entrance, and we've added the second entrance to try to disperse traffic within. 651 01:12:25,850 --> 01:12:39,130 So I think the folks that have owned this property for quite a long time have every right to develop as all the other development that has occurred around them, particularly when it's consistent with your plan, and it's in the urban service area. 652 01:12:39,130 --> 01:12:49,430 And I think that they have, you know, they're right to expect that the land use plan in the urban service area would allow them to develop their property 653 01:12:50,010 --> 01:12:55,990 at a density well within the range of your land use plans. So while there are impacts, those impacts are minimal. 654 01:12:56,970 --> 01:13:02,470 They could have been, I think, more and still have been supported by your land use plan. 655 01:13:04,670 --> 01:13:12,550 So Lee Davis and Cold Reen is a problem every day for a while in the AM and the PMP. 656 01:13:12,730 --> 01:13:19,050 But I think what our traffic study is saying is this development is not significantly contribute 657 01:13:19,050 --> 01:13:21,390 to that in any measure. 658 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,980 I'm happy to answer any other questions that you might have. 659 01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:27,820 Thank you, Mr. Deville. 660 01:13:31,390 --> 01:13:33,590 This time we are closed the public hearing. 661 01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:37,190 Mr. Garmin, would you like to add any comments? 662 01:13:38,730 --> 01:13:41,070 Mr. Chair, I've got a couple of comments. 663 01:13:41,310 --> 01:13:46,010 And I'd like to reiterate something that Mr. Thibald mentioned. 664 01:13:47,770 --> 01:13:52,870 And to assure the residents the staff, as well as the Plan Commission Board, 665 01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:56,430 our sensitive to the traffic issues long-poken red. 666 01:13:56,430 --> 01:14:04,750 And, as stated by Mr. Thierball, the county is in the process of seeking the first stage 667 01:14:04,750 --> 01:14:11,010 of funding to begin the design work for improvements to pulvering the road, it is the next 668 01:14:11,010 --> 01:14:15,310 road in the county's road priority list. 669 01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:25,250 And I would note that with the road cash proffers, this project is expected to generate nearly 670 01:14:25,250 --> 01:14:35,010 $675,000 worth of revenues, and those funds collected from this project through the transportation 671 01:14:35,010 --> 01:14:41,130 impact offer will be applied directly towards the improvement of poll-gring red. Under the 672 01:14:41,130 --> 01:14:52,870 county under the state's funding system, the county can apply for what's referred to as 673 01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:59,950 175,000, we have the, and it's actually 670, 3, 3, 11 to be exact, but we have, 674 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,500 The opportunity to seek additional matching fund dollar for dollar. So this project may actually generate 675 01:15:08,500 --> 01:15:16,860 a total of roughly 1.4 million dollars for road improvements in addition to any other funding 676 01:15:16,860 --> 01:15:25,940 that may become available. So once again, we are sensitive to the traffic issues, but the 677 01:15:25,940 --> 01:15:33,520 County does have a plan and process in place that is currently underway to begin seeking 678 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,060 the necessary funding for improvements to Paul Greenrad. 679 01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:40,200 Thank you, Mr. Muloney. 680 01:15:41,620 --> 01:15:43,360 Are there any questions from the commission? 681 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:50,180 I'm saying none. 682 01:15:50,340 --> 01:15:50,760 Mr. Bayley. 683 01:15:50,860 --> 01:15:52,060 I believe this is in your district. 684 01:15:52,780 --> 01:15:52,820 Okay. 685 01:15:53,220 --> 01:16:03,020 I would like to make a couple of comments before a motion is Mr. Thibwell. 686 01:16:03,020 --> 01:16:10,140 mentioned, the property does lie within the suburban service area, which is where 80% of 687 01:16:10,140 --> 01:16:15,940 the development of the county is going to go. That's according to the complain. The density 688 01:16:15,940 --> 01:16:23,500 in that would allow four units per acre. And this proposed development is 2.6, which is only 689 01:16:23,500 --> 01:16:29,780 about 65% of what they could put there, not saying it would necessarily be approved if the 690 01:16:29,780 --> 01:16:34,880 asking for for, but the only asking for about 65% of what could go there. 691 01:16:37,050 --> 01:16:46,250 I've had one email from someone in my district that was Mr. McKitrick, MCK, TTRCK, who lives 692 01:16:47,390 --> 01:17:01,330 in Legacy Park. And his concern was coming out of Legacy Park and being able to make a 693 01:17:01,330 --> 01:17:08,490 is which will start around 300,000 would probably improve the value of the homes in legacy 694 01:17:08,490 --> 01:17:09,090 park. 695 01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:14,890 And it may not homes further north, I guess, that if they're half a million dollar homes. 696 01:17:15,610 --> 01:17:22,910 But to address his concern, I did ask Ms. Chile to check with Vida on about putting these 697 01:17:22,910 --> 01:17:26,750 do not block intersection signs there. 698 01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:32,270 And we've gotten approval for that to help eliminate the problem if anyone is coming 699 01:17:32,270 --> 01:17:37,790 into a legacy park and wants to make a left-hand turn on two-poil green road. 700 01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:46,870 Just to reiterate what Mr. Maloney said that it does generate over $650,000 of money through 701 01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:55,030 the traffic impact, I had the opportunity to talk to Mr. Flag as well and the county has already 702 01:17:55,030 --> 01:18:04,230 need application for a grant to do a study, and hopefully we'll know by March if we're going 703 01:18:04,230 --> 01:18:10,190 to get in and how much in order to start doing some design work on Paul Green Road. Everyone 704 01:18:10,190 --> 01:18:17,410 understands the traffic there. I haven't delivered all church. I travel Paul Green Road almost 705 01:18:17,410 --> 01:18:23,710 on a daily basis, so I do not have to be told what the traffic is like. Occasion I'll go all the 706 01:18:23,710 --> 01:18:31,590 up to 360. I'm fortunate that my schedule permits me to go and come and avoid peak hours 707 01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:37,950 if I want to. But for the last two months, I have purposely driven Paul Green Road during 708 01:18:37,950 --> 01:18:44,210 peak hours to see what the traffic was like at peak hours. Normally, I can make it from 360 709 01:18:44,210 --> 01:18:50,830 to 295 and 12 minutes. Tuesday this week, I went through that 815 to took me 15 minutes. 710 01:18:51,630 --> 01:18:58,130 The absolute worst I've had for two months was coming home and after noon when one gentleman 711 01:18:58,130 --> 01:19:04,190 mentioned how the traffic will back up past Bill Creek I was up there near the BP station 712 01:19:04,190 --> 01:19:09,750 and it took me 18 minutes. That was one day. So the traffic is heavy but hopefully it is being 713 01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:16,970 addressed. It is number two on the list in the county to try to be wide and sliding hill is number 714 01:19:16,970 --> 01:19:23,380 one, no one knows exactly when the funding will come, but it is number two in the county. 715 01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:36,740 So if I look at the case and it's entirety, I cannot find a compelling reason that there 716 01:19:36,740 --> 01:19:41,440 would should deny the applicant his request for an all of the good, positive things I think 717 01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:42,520 will come out of the development. 718 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,800 So having said that Mr. Chairman, I would like to recommend to the Commission approval, 719 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:55,840 of KC-2215C, Bernard E. Clarid Jr. at all, subject to the 720 01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,000 Prophors in the State, I'm sorry, denial is a myth. 721 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:08,560 But approval, subject to the revised profits, which would include the signage, as mentioned on-polled 722 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:15,220 green road, and the conceptual plan, which was last revised November the 19th, 2015. 723 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,220 Thank you, Mr Bailey. We have a motion by Mr Bailey. Do we have a second? 724 01:20:25,300 --> 01:20:26,740 Second by Mr worker. 725 01:20:30,140 --> 01:20:30,440 Do we 726 01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:32,900 questions from the Commission for comments. 727 01:20:33,540 --> 01:20:35,580 I'd like to make a one comment, Mr. Chairman. 728 01:20:37,700 --> 01:20:41,880 I was fortunate enough to set in on the couple meetings that 729 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:46,160 with Mr. Bailey and the developer that traffic engineers 730 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,360 engulf everything. 731 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,820 Very thoroughly on this because my concern was traffic 732 01:20:54,820 --> 01:20:58,960 to Mr. Bailey and I've talked about it probably two 733 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:05,220 times a month for the last several months. I went pole green road almost every day for a while. 734 01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:10,920 Mr. Bailey was doing it. We did the same thing on another subdivision up the road a couple 735 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:19,240 years ago and watched the traffic. But the thing that I look at is when we read did the 736 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:25,360 comprehensive plan four years, three years ago what it might be. We had 23 meetings throughout this 737 01:21:25,980 --> 01:21:30,520 And we took everybody's suggestions of where they wanted to grow, 738 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:31,360 it's where they didn't want it. 739 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,600 How much they wanted and everything. 740 01:21:34,620 --> 01:21:37,540 And this is where people wanted it. 741 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,380 And they didn't, you know, it was really good. 742 01:21:41,140 --> 01:21:44,140 So with that, that's the reason I'm supporting this, 743 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,240 and sort of supporting Mr. Bailey in this. 744 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:49,860 Thank you, Mr. Whitaker. 745 01:21:50,820 --> 01:21:52,200 Any other comments from the Commission? 746 01:21:55,810 --> 01:21:56,970 I would just like to make the comment. 747 01:21:56,970 --> 01:22:03,410 that we've had several cases on poll-green and bell-curric area and that traffic is always one 748 01:22:03,410 --> 01:22:09,290 of the major obstacles and we've had a couple cases where some of us have not approved 749 01:22:09,290 --> 01:22:14,850 those cases because of traffic situations I think this one falls in a parameter that we 750 01:22:14,850 --> 01:22:26,950 can deal with, especially with some road improvements coming in the profit amounts that the 751 01:22:28,230 --> 01:22:36,850 I would like to just offer a comment of thanks to the staff, thanks to Mr. Bailey and Mr. 752 01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:41,730 Whitaker for their third job in researching this and bringing it forward to us. 753 01:22:41,730 --> 01:22:48,010 I appreciate that. It's not my district. Not on my side of 95, but I appreciate the 754 01:22:48,010 --> 01:22:52,490 that everyone's done, so I'm feel fully informed on what I'm voting for. 755 01:22:52,850 --> 01:22:56,570 Thank you, Ms. Wimbledon. Are there any other questions from the Commission? 756 01:22:58,310 --> 01:23:03,990 And we have a motion and a second, so we will call for the vote. All in favour say aye. 757 01:23:04,990 --> 01:23:07,430 Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. 758 01:23:09,130 --> 01:23:11,810 Mr. Chairman, there are also the applicant's seeking preliminary 759 01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:19,430 The applicant is also seeking preliminary 760 01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:20,510 Plata Proval. 761 01:23:20,750 --> 01:23:25,790 Staff would recommend a motion that if approved by the Board of Supervisors that the conceptual plan 762 01:23:25,790 --> 01:23:27,870 serve as the preliminary plan. 763 01:23:29,170 --> 01:23:30,830 And that is included in the motion. 764 01:23:31,490 --> 01:23:34,630 We're seeking that as a separate motion on that. 765 01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:37,510 Mr. David, would you like to make a motion on that? 766 01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:50,510 Senate, again, David, that if approved by the Board of Supervisors, the conceptual plan shall serve as the preliminary subdivision plan. 767 01:23:51,610 --> 01:23:58,850 I'll make that motion that if approved by the Board of Supervisors, the conceptual plan, serve as the... 768 01:23:58,850 --> 01:24:05,910 preliminary winter is a plan for motion by Mr. Bailey who we have a second and I'll second that motion 769 01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:09,170 I'll second by Mr. Woodker any questions from your commission? 770 01:24:10,130 --> 01:24:13,930 Seeing none we'll call for the vote all in favour say aye. 771 01:24:14,170 --> 01:24:16,470 All closed motion carries. 772 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:24,060 Mr. Garmin I believe that was the last case, wasn't it? 773 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:24,920 I mean yes. 774 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:33,540 Okay, so that brings us to our close to the meeting of any other issues from the commission or Mr. Maloney. 775 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:42,140 I would just like to wish the commission and the residents who are here this evening, a merry Christmas and a happy new year. 776 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:43,680 And we'll see you all next year. 777 01:24:43,860 --> 01:24:44,800 The same goes for the commission. 778 01:24:45,020 --> 01:24:45,940 Thank you very much.