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[0:00] Well, ladies and gentlemen, to the May 21st meeting of the City of Payfield's Design and Review Committee meeting, our meeting is called to order.
[0:17] I'd like to start with an introduction of our committee members. We'll start with Greg this month.
[0:22] I'm Greg Morgan.
[0:24] Jackie Smith.
[0:26] Lynn Patterson.
[0:27] I'm Jonathan Lowe, the Chairperson.
[0:29] John Stowley.
[0:31] Secretary.
[0:32] Sophie is a new member.
[0:35] Sophie's mic is hot, but thank you so much for your service. We appreciate you.
[0:41] And our first agenda item, welcome everyone, it's been a few months.
[0:48] Happy to be back together, is the election of officers.
[0:55] So, we have two positions. Is there a nomination for someone to serve as Secretary?
[1:05] Mr. Chairman, I nominate Jackie Smith.
[1:09] 30 seconds.
[1:11] I'll fuck you back.
[1:13] Any other nominations?
[1:15] She knows.
[1:17] She's already taking notes.
[1:21] All in favor of Jackie Smith, Senator Secretary, read right in.
[1:26] Passes.
[1:28] Oh, yeah.
[1:30] I will, from henceforth, request to be called Madam.
[1:38] I will not respond to anything else.
[1:43] My secretary.
[1:45] Yes, all right.
[1:48] Passes.
[1:50] Any nominations for Chairman?
[1:56] Mr. Chairman, I nominate Jonathan Lowe.
[1:59] I'll second.
[2:01] All in favor, raise your hand.
[2:03] Passes.
[2:05] Thank you both, and good luck.
[2:11] Okay, the last meeting we mentioned was from December.
[2:15] We have approval of the minutes.
[2:17] So next agenda items.
[2:19] If we have a chance to review those, these comments are corrections.
[2:23] Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion.
[2:25] If there's a problem, it is number 18, 2024.
[2:29] Is there a second?
[2:31] I'll second that.
[2:33] All in favor, raise your hand.
[2:35] Passes.
[2:37] Oh, Jackie, you...
[2:40] Mr. Chairman, I'll second that.
[2:45] I'll second it, please.
[2:48] I'll second that.
[2:50] Okay.
[2:52] We have a one-business application for 3966 at Dogwood.
[2:57] Requested to be tabled until next month,
[3:00] or until they can submit revised drawings.
[3:03] So our first application is in Elevates Change
[3:06] for 558 Woodrow Avenue.
[3:09] We haven't met in a while, but if the applicant is present,
[3:13] can you come up to the podium, please?
[3:15] Just talk us through the revisions.
[3:18] Oh, my God.
[3:25] Hello.
[3:27] Okay, so the original application,
[3:29] to me, uh, plan had, um,
[3:32] it was really south of the corner of the kitchen,
[3:35] but with architecture,
[3:37] she didn't think it helped her to be exhausted.
[3:39] So when the contractor over there
[3:41] is looking at it, he ever moves the window,
[3:43] because we have to put the exhaust to there.
[3:45] Okay.
[3:49] Dr. Patterson, any feedback on, uh,
[3:51] from a planning standpoint?
[3:53] No, I think there's another window as well in the rear.
[3:55] That's right.
[3:57] In the rear window that was building in?
[3:59] There's not first story on the second story.
[4:02] Yes, it's still there.
[4:04] Oh, it is still there.
[4:06] In the back side?
[4:08] I had the, uh, drawings
[4:11] show that there was going to be
[4:13] a second window on the second story
[4:15] in the rear insulation of a window.
[4:17] Oh, I think that was a shower window.
[4:19] He had put a full-size window
[4:21] and a shower in the back of his.
[4:23] Oh, this lighting window.
[4:25] So we're revising that window
[4:27] and building it into what we're doing today.
[4:29] Um, so we're, um,
[4:31] the change in the window
[4:33] does not adversely affect the fenestration calculation,
[4:35] or I think it's the rear one
[4:37] that's not accessible from time to time.
[4:39] Right away.
[4:41] Okay, it's perfect.
[4:43] Any questions if you'd like to come to the committee?
[4:47] Right here, and then we'll take a motion to approve.
[4:49] I'll make a decision to approve the plan.
[4:51] I'll say it.
[4:53] All in favor, raise your hand.
[4:55] That's 5-0.
[4:57] Thank you so much.
[4:59] Thank you.
[5:09] Uh, I'm going to make a motion
[5:11] to table 558 Woodrow Avenue.
[5:13] Nope.
[5:15] Okay.
[5:17] 3166 Dogwood Drive.
[5:19] Okay, I'll second.
[5:21] All in favor, raise your hand.
[5:23] That's 5-0.
[5:25] In our application, um...
[5:27] Sorry, can you table it to date?
[5:29] Do you have a date, sir?
[5:31] No, June 18.
[5:33] Did you say that already?
[5:35] No.
[5:37] I'm just going to take care of him
[5:39] that last motion reflect.
[5:41] Uh, tabling to June 18.
[5:43] Yes.
[5:45] Thank you.
[5:47] Please come up to the front.
[5:49] This is an application
[5:51] for the approval of the addition
[5:53] of several panels
[5:55] at 329 Mabel Street.
[5:57] Good evening.
[5:59] How are you?
[6:01] Excellent.
[6:03] So, these are all, um...
[6:09] proposed to be
[6:11] alongside of a structure
[6:13] that aren't facing the street?
[6:15] Yeah.
[6:17] Can you just give us a...
[6:19] Yeah, that's right.
[6:21] So, there will be some
[6:23] on an existing
[6:25] um...
[6:27] the additional structure
[6:29] that's in the backyard.
[6:31] There is an install by the
[6:33] um...
[6:35] by the house.
[6:37] Um, and
[6:39] there is
[6:41] additionally
[6:43] there's a lot
[6:45] uh...
[6:47] that is part of the plan
[6:49] to not hit it.
[6:51] No, you don't.
[6:53] Okay.
[6:55] To also
[6:57] cover where panels
[6:59] um...
[7:01] also towards
[7:03] the rear house,
[7:05] there's a lot of
[7:07] uh...
[7:09] that might be
[7:11] somewhat baseball.
[7:13] What does that mean?
[7:15] There is a fence.
[7:17] The fence is
[7:19] um...
[7:21] uh...
[7:23] 60 feet.
[7:25] 60 feet?
[7:27] Um, the approval would be
[7:29] above
[7:31] 60 feet.
[7:33] So, the program is 70 feet.
[7:35] That's all right.
[7:37] That's accomplished at the right.
[7:39] Um...
[7:41] I believe so.
[7:43] It's a...
[7:45] It's just a ground mountain.
[7:47] You're not having people go underneath it, right?
[7:49] It's just a ground mountain.
[7:51] You're calling it a pergola
[7:53] but it's not something where someone
[7:55] would be standing under it.
[7:57] It's not that.
[7:59] There is a walkway through there.
[8:01] There is a
[8:03] there is a
[8:05] door, a gate
[8:07] a fence.
[8:09] That particular area.
[8:11] And that would be that
[8:13] so people would walk.
[8:19] Is there a slide pool?
[8:21] Um, there it is.
[8:23] So, on
[8:25] so the community of PG2
[8:27] um...
[8:29] Is that okay?
[8:31] Sure.
[8:33] Um, we have a
[8:35] similar section
[8:37] in our developing code.
[8:39] And it does allow for...
[8:41] There are shingles basing the
[8:43] right away on the front of the house
[8:45] and you can see that
[8:47] on the page.
[8:49] That's okay.
[8:51] That's okay.
[8:53] Thank you.
[8:55] Thank you.
[8:57] The PG
[8:59] does not page number.
[9:01] So, you can see
[9:03] that the house is to the right.
[9:05] So, there will be one, two, three,
[9:07] four, five, six, seven, eight,
[9:09] nine, ten panels
[9:11] on the front of the house.
[9:13] Um, there are two
[9:15] to the east
[9:17] on one of the first able
[9:19] two toward the rear.
[9:21] Um, three on the shed
[9:23] and then there are
[9:25] 15 on the pergola that is being proposed
[9:27] which is partially
[9:29] obstructed by the house, right?
[9:31] The wait's laid out.
[9:33] It sits behind the
[9:35] right of the house.
[9:37] And it is fairly far.
[9:39] It's not right up against the fence
[9:41] where there's a six-way fence.
[9:43] No, I mean it is a little bit
[9:45] a little bit behind, yes.
[9:47] Um, so
[9:49] any time
[9:51] according to
[9:53] our code
[9:55] if it becomes problematic
[9:57] in front of some solar panels on the front,
[9:59] if you acquire it basically
[10:01] uh,
[10:03] positioning of the house, orientation of the house
[10:05] and this body can do that.
[10:07] Um, it is a combination.
[10:09] I've worked with them
[10:11] to try and figure out the best way
[10:13] to be able to
[10:15] utilize solar in this fashion.
[10:17] I think we're able to support
[10:19] the solar.
[10:21] And there is a commissioning
[10:23] um, statement about what
[10:25] would happen if
[10:27] whether you're no longer useful
[10:29] or you're moveable.
[10:31] Um, and again, from
[10:33] our code states that
[10:35] you're not supposed to see the ground amount
[10:37] array, which is the pergola.
[10:39] And the pergola does not count against
[10:41] the number of just this body.
[10:43] It does not count against the number of
[10:45] accessory structures. So that was
[10:47] an important, it's normally wouldn't be able to have a second
[10:49] shed and a busy boat, for example.
[10:51] Um, but this
[10:53] again,
[10:55] it's located to the
[10:57] behind the draught, there's a
[10:59] driveway, there's a fence,
[11:01] there's part of the house, and then
[11:03] the array is toward the back
[11:05] pergola array. So I don't
[11:07] from a planner's perspective, I don't see it
[11:09] being, you know, um,
[11:11] I don't
[11:13] anticipate the aesthetic would be made of the effect.
[11:15] So, staff recognition.
[11:17] Staff finance is compatible
[11:19] with the zoning code,
[11:21] with the zoning code, and would recommend
[11:23] that you use the zoning code.
[11:25] Thank you.
[11:27] Yes, I can, yes, you know, it's
[11:29] preferred to not be on the front,
[11:31] but when the front of the house
[11:33] takes it south.
[11:35] Yeah, it's
[11:37] where you need the panels to be,
[11:39] when it's all destroyed.
[11:41] So thank you.
[11:43] Any, uh, any comments or questions?
[11:45] I mean, it's a pretty long
[11:47] line, I have it pulled up
[11:49] on Street View, and I
[11:51] would doubt that we would,
[11:53] like anyone would notice.
[11:55] Or see the pergola behind the house, yeah.
[11:57] Especially if it's half-hitted
[11:59] by, um, things
[12:01] through the west side of the house.
[12:03] Lots of trees.
[12:05] Yeah.
[12:07] There's a one tree in the front.
[12:09] Oh, on the other
[12:11] property, lining the driveway.
[12:13] Oh.
[12:15] It's like obstructing the view
[12:17] a little bit.
[12:19] Okay, if there are other,
[12:21] um,
[12:23] questions
[12:25] through, um,
[12:27] most of the approval
[12:29] of the application for
[12:31] April 3, 2019 on Maple Street.
[12:33] Uh, I'm most interested
[12:35] in the approval of 329 on Maple Street
[12:37] application.
[12:39] So it's like, I'll say
[12:41] all in favor of your name.
[12:43] That's the best.
[12:45] Thanks so much.
[12:47] Good luck.
[12:49] Thank you.
[12:51] Yeah, very good.
[12:55] Any other
[12:57] items to review?
[12:59] Today?
[13:01] Anything planned
[13:03] for the next month in addition
[13:05] to the table project?
[13:07] Good.
[13:09] We can hear it.
[13:11] We said that I will not be getting it.
[13:13] Sorry.
[13:15] You don't miss me.
[13:17] I will not be in person
[13:19] for either the
[13:21] June or July meeting.
[13:23] I'm sorry.
[13:25] I'm not doing that.
[13:27] I'm trying to do it.
[13:29] I'm not able
[13:31] to call in.
[13:33] However.
[13:35] I'm going to miss you all.
[13:37] That's why I'm here today.
[13:39] Thank you.
[13:41] Thank you.
[13:43] If there's nothing else,
[13:45] our next scheduled meeting
[13:47] is June 18th.
[13:49] Same room.
[13:51] Is there a second?
[13:53] Me.
[13:55] Is that the ice cream?
[13:57] Well, it's not the chair one.
[13:59] Yeah.
[14:01] All in favor stand up.
[14:03] Turn off your items.
[14:05] Thank you.
[14:07] Thank you.
[14:09] So if it's not always this
[14:11] straightforward.