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the public hearing for the adoption of
final budget fiscal year 2627.

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Any discussion on that?

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» Certainly discussed it quite a bit.

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Any public comment
on the year's budget? Fiscal year's

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budget.

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Doing everything right.

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Look at it.

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[snorts]

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Nothing's been changed.

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Um there's been some minor changes.
Um not very much though. Like for

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example in uh my department in the
general fund.

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Uh I reduced office supplies by 1,500
and then reallocated that to other

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areas. Uh so like for example legal I
had the wrong amount or the annual

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amount um for attorney fees. So I
updated that to the correct one. And

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then like facilities, they decreased
that by $1,000 as well uh for

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professional services to make up for
that. And just a few other line items.

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Most of the changes that were made were
um to update for property taxes. So

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whatever we had decided during those
budget meetings that the property tax

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number needed to be, it was updating to
that to that number. So like general

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fund
uh the final budgeted property taxes for

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that fund was uh
uh $393,182.

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[clears throat] And then I did increase
a few of the other personal property

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taxes, marijuana, etc. Um
[clears throat] just more closely align

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with like marijuana, for example, we got
almost a little over 21,000 this year.

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So I updated that number. And then uh
principle and interest on the liquid

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taxes. Uh we've had quite a bit more
than the 6,500 that I budgeted for the

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last few years. So I just bumped up that
number as well.

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Um
and then another one for example in

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public safety we had talked about more
training services for the officers. Uh

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so that number was increased to 6,000.
um

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office operating supply, excuse me, was
decreased and then professional services

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was increased uh $5,000.

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[clears throat] Uh just some minor
changes here and there and those were

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mostly the two that got adjusted. Uh, I
guess the one last thing is I did in the

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general fund on page
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um the transfers out. So [clears throat]
to make the public safety fund balance

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for the year as far as budgeted numbers
go, I did have to increase that transfer

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to public safety by $100,000.
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that doesn't mean we have to transfer
that amount during the year. It just

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authorizes us to transfer up to 250,000.
Um but to make that budget work, I had

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to put that budget for that transfer so
that our cash reserves didn't show as

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negative in the public safety fund.
Okay. So that was probably the biggest

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change made from our last uh meeting
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And then as far as mill levies go,
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um

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the permissive medical is what we had
discussed previously

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at uh
41.5 mills um which generates about

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145,000
in revenue for the year. Uh general fund

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general fund is 110.68 68 mill
comprehensive insurance is 10.45

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uh public safety is 51.45
Ps is 13.6 and group health was also

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13.6
a total of 241.28

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28 mills for fiscal year 2627.

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[clears throat] And then landfill fees,
like we discussed during the budgeting

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process, since we lost the some of our
other revenue sources for the landfill,

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those fees were increased approximately
5% from last year.

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[clears throat]
>> But we're expecting an overall decrease

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in income from the landfill this year
due to that. just because of the fixed

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contract that we no longer have, you
know,

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Any

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[snorts]

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other questions or comments?
>> What's that?

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» He answered everything that I
>> Any other questions?

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» I'd make a motion to close.
>> Yeah. We'll we um go ahead and close the

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public hearing on that and we'll start
up the regular council meeting at 6:30.

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6:20.

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» Okay. We'll call the meeting to order.
You can stand for the pledge.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Thank you. We're moving to roll call.
Mayor's here. Steven Hopes

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» here.
>> George Twin

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» here.
>> Clayton Greer

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» here.
>> Jeremy Krebs

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» here. Uh Chris Sharp is out tonight. and
AJ Espinosa here.

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All right, we [clears throat] move into
the council meeting minutes of uh August

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18th, 2026. There's one uh one
correction that Angela pointed out on

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page two of four down the last little
line before the last paragraph. I will

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not be out of town September 1st. It's
supposed to be the first meeting in

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October
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» So yeah, that'll they'll make that
correct. But so if there's a motion it

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could be made with that correction.
>> Well, that motion not be gone today.

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» Yeah.
>> The motion we accept the minutes with

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that change in the
>> Okay. Any other

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» second?
>> Second. Okay. Moved and seconded. accept

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the motion with the change just that
that mayor will be here uh will be not

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in attendance on uh in the first meeting
of October rather than first meeting in

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September. Any other discussion on that?
>> Okay, those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Those opposed, same sign. Okay, motion

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carries. uh finance budget committee
meeting also August 18th 26

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approved
>> second it okay it's been a motion and

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approved or seconded to um to approve
the budget finance committee of August

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18th 26 any further discussion
in favor say I

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» those opposed
motion carries and then landfill

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committee meeting for August 18th, 26.
Any additions or corrections there?

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» Motion to approve.
>> Second.

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» Okay. It's been moved and seconded to
approve the landfill committee meeting

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minutes August 18th, 26. Any further
discussion? Those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Those opposed? [snorts]

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» Okay. Motion carries. I'll move into
claims.

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I make [clears throat] an a motion to
approve claims 34209

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to 34278
excluding uh claim 34222

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at this time
uh brought up by Mr. coin and for a

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dollar total amount of uh do we have to
do the

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» math
>> math? Math.

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» Was it just $150 though? [clears throat]
>> 150. Yeah. So $102,19847

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minus $150. [cough]
Sorry.

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» So it's the Yeah. So it's the it's the
$150 portion of that.

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» Correct.
>> Just just the $150 portion of that claim

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cuz the total claim was more, right?
>> 2500. Okay. All right. It's been moved

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and seconded to approve
>> Oh, sorry.

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» I have another question on claim number
34223

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from uh Daily Engineering.
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There was a a letter attached to that.
I'd like to read it. Attached is the

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July invoice for the city of Hardy
Harden wastewater treatment plan

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projects. On of note, Staley has held
our current efforts for the uh

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construction engineering and grant
portion of this project.

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Additional time procuring more funding
[snorts] for the project following the

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bid openings as well as significant
amounts of time responding to the RFIs

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have contributed to budget shortfalls.
We anticipate having some additional

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money left in the inspection phase and
we will have a uh conversation with the

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funding agency to see if some of the
contingency funds can be used to cover

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this overage.
Do we have an explanation?

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» So what what Dax stated um
on that letter was original contract was

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for
this much time of us doing answering uh

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requests for information, doing grants
and budgeting. There's been so much

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additional stuff go into this project
because of other things that have

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happened like um we had to reduce those
project costs. We had to put more time

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into the budget into grants management
and things like that that we've

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exhausted what we originally contracted.

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So there's money in the project
available at some point hopefully and

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but we don't have any more contract
contract money

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» contract dollars for what for project
management available to us in that line

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item
>> and we didn't foresee this when we

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started the project that I mean we when
we started the project we knew we were

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reducing from the original project to a
different

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» we were already under contract
>> for the big project.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay.

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» A couple years prior to that.
>> So, no, there was no way to anticipate

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that. I mean, that's that's the point is
there was no way to anticipate what

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additional time and effort we were going
to have in and and not only that, but

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answering requests for information from
the contractor. Yeah. you know, that's

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» Is that a deficiency in the um drawings
or is that a deficiency in the

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contractor's experience?
>> No, I think it's just a a a consequence

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of a very complex project. You're you're
retrofitting a 50-year-old wastewater

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treatment plant and you you know, you're
exposing things that haven't been

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exposed for 50 years and you're going to
have problems. There's going to be

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unforeseen things come up. Those require
us to answer a question to them like,

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"Hey, we found a pipe that was, you
know, the whole top of it fell out. We

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there was no way we could know once we
dug it up and as part of the project, we

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had to dig it up and now lo and behold,
we got a pipe that's um got to be cool

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and we got to repair it, you know, to
keep the plant running." So those are

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the kind of things that that requires us
time to design time to do something

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additionally that there was no way to
anticipate what what was going to what

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we were going to find
or may give away in a pipe.

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» Right. [clears throat]
Right. And I think that that's what it's

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come down to. It's it was unforeseen
things that there's no way to anticipate

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you until you dig them up. You don't
know what's there.

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So, what's the difference I guess with
this? Um, you know, what's the

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difference in that price? A few thousand
or

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again, I don't know how to I don't know
how to get to the

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» project isn't over yet either.
>> Yeah. I mean, we got another

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» 9 months,
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time in the in the deal.
What what Dax did state in there is in

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the inspection budget in the um
contingency funds, we're not saying we

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want to exceed the
total budget of the project. We're

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saying that we've exceeded that line
item in the budget.

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There is probably going to be
contingency funds. There is probably

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going to be some leftover in what I do
um that could cover what additional time

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that Dax puts into it or Robbie puts
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management. So
I don't know if that answered your

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question.
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already signed this contract and the
project was underway. So I didn't

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understand that we were under contract
with a a different

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um method going in before we changed in
mid mid contract. So

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but I agree there are a lot of u
requests for information that I've been

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watching in the meetings and it seems
like there's a lot

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» that's unclear that's needing
clarification. So

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» yeah, and I think a lot of those are due
to the fact that,

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you know, they dig something up and lo
and behold, there's some something else

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wrong. It's outside of what they're
supposed to be doing, but they got to

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fix it. So,
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problems. Perfect example is like the
last meeting when we talked about the

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headworks. Uh the the the effluent pipe
coming out of the headworks and they

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exposed it, the whole top of it was
rotted off. I mean, that's exactly what

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I'm talking about. [snorts]
And there is no way to anticipate what

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you're going to find on 50-y old plate.
It is what it is. It's

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» Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not.

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Appreciate it. Does that clarify
question?

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» Yes, that answers my questioning. Thank
you.

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» Okay, you bet. Um, so it's been
[clears throat] moved and seconded uh to

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approve claims 34209
to 34278

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with the removal of $150 portion of
claim number 34222.

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So if you subtract that out, it's the
the total claim would be $102,4847

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um originally 102 102,19847.

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So been um to remove that $150.
Any further discussion? Those in favor

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say I.
>> I.

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» Those opposed? Same sign?
>> Okay.

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Claims are approved. Um public comment
tonight for agenda items.

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Any public comment tonight?

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Okay, seeing none, we'll move into
mayor's report. So, I talked with our

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potential chief of police candidate last
week and uh he said that they're going

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to be doing some reviewing um some of
the medical stuff that he had mentioned

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before. Um there's another potential for
this. He he had said from when I talked

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to him 2 to 3 weeks he should know more.
So hopefully better news. Um, so we want

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to give him a little bit of time, but if
he's not able to, you know, tell me at

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that time, let's say two more weeks from
now, I'm hoping to hear something. If

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not, we, you know, we probably have to
figure something out. Yeah. Move on.

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But, um, we're hoping for the best on
that. So, unfortunately, it's a little

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more time, but I think it'd be worth um
worth waiting for, uh, if we if that if

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something will work out for that. So my
mic Oh, my mic's not down.

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» I think they're just getting
[clears throat] feedback.

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» And that's all I have on that for now.
Um, moving into the committee report. So

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the for the city policy manual, again, I
just want to remind council especially

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that if you can look through any of the
manual, um, if you have anything you'd

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like to see changed, maybe put that
together in an email, um, just

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separately and email it to me. Um
because we want to now that we've gone

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through our budget approvals and
everything for the fiscal year, kind of

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want to look at that and see if there's
some things we can change and not one or

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two pages and then have something later.
>> Things I want to change.

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» Okay. Yeah. And we can certainly have a
you know a committee meeting or

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something about it too, but um like to
start looking at that a little closer.

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So all right, we'll move on to city and
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alleyways. Steve.
>> All right. As you know, they're still

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slaving away down there at the sewer
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[snorts]
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there's still surprises going on down
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that. Water is still doing okay.
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They started digging, if you notice,
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building. They pulled the curb on that
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put the curb in and then we'll go back
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They also been trying to get the machine
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dirt patching.
>> Mhm. They ran into quite a few problems

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with there.
I'll let Mike fill you guys in on the

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process that they're going to perform
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Alleys. I know Moses went down the
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which one needs to be touched up, which
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with that besides giving guidance to the
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during the day on the dirt patch. He
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he can finish up on that part and he'll
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what don't.
And that's all I got. Mike will finish

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in on the rest.
>> Thanks Steve. Uh law enforcement George.

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Uh, like you had mentioned in your
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for a new chief. Um, we just had an
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» today.
>> Today going up today. Y

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» tomorrow.
>> That's kind of exciting and things are

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going good and
it I think I think the guys are going

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and doing a good job. Um, we've
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and so that's good for everybody.
>> [clears throat]

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» Mhm. All right. Thanks, George. Parks
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» Um the the cameras that were purchased
um before the last meeting uh have been

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installed by the city crews. So now we
have surveillance over there um in that

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park. Um so hopefully that'll curb some
of the stuff that's going on over there.

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Some of the um vandalism if it does
happen. Is there a war is there a

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warning sign that says you're on camera?
>> No, sir.

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You will need to have that.
>> It's on order. I haven't got it yet.

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» Thank you.
>> Is that audio too [clears throat] or

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just visual?
>> I believe it has audio.

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» I'm sure because the sign would have to
indicate.

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» Yeah, [clears throat] it has indication
on it.

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» Oh, is it surveillance?
>> As far as I know, it would be best to

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have both.
>> Just a sign that says you're under

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surveillance.
>> I don't think it's going to be turned on

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until we get that sign. Okay. I think
right now he has a window sticker,

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right? You have a window sticker that it
came with. Maybe you could just put that

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on a piece of plywood or something and
stick that over there for now or

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something just until your other signs
come. I mean, that's all that you need,

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right?
>> It just has to be [clears throat] says

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that it's under surveillance.
>> Well, it needs to be

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different.
>> We'll look into it.

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» I mean, there's nothing that says you
have to have it at, you know, every

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cardinal direction or anything like
that. It just has to be in a conspicuous

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place somewhere
>> so that they can see it.

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Well, before it's turned on, we'll have
signs.

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» I think we could do a paper sign.
>> Yeah. Something.

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» I can get you a piece of plexiglass if
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» Hey, Mike.
>> One for me tomorrow.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah.

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» That all you have, Jeremy?
>> Uh, no. And then the concrete

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[clears throat] slab over there at the
skate park is completed. Um, and also

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over at Hyatt Park. Um, for some reason
the the concrete is heed over there and

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I've noticed that for for a while. Um, I
don't know how it happened but it's

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bowed up pretty good. Um, so we're
having a contractor right now remove

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that that part that is um heaved and
they're going to pour concrete there so

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it's not a tripping hazard and we don't.
That reminds me um I think the sidewalk

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in front of Shiftton's
>> on that state.

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» It was they were working on that for a
while.

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» Okay. It was all
>> that was like a couple months ago or

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something.
>> Okay. So is that

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» I think they do they fix that completely
or do they have to wait for anything?

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» That happens every so often
[clears throat] a chunk just come up and

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there's few other places where it just
eats up.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. when you had mentioned that to me

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one day that about a day later or two
days later they were a big crew was out

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there doing stuff
>> not not any of my work but

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» the part that's u you know around our
park is in the process of getting fixed

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and replaced just so then we don't have
that problem with something somebody

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tripping over it or something
>> that's the biggest problem

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» y so that's all I have
>> all right thanks um finance landfill

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Clayton
>> uh finance just the stuff that we've

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been going over and landfill just
reports back the way we've been doing. I

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think it's the increase coming up, but
that's about it.

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» Anything for impact fee advisory?
>> Uh, no.

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» Okay. Uh, resolutions and ordinances.
Chris is out on economic development.

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» George, uh, Tina will be giving a report
later tonight and I'll leave that for

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her.
>> Okay.

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All right. And then [clears throat] in
your packet there's uh for petitions and

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communications uh pilot community
tourism grant program year-end

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evaluation. That's included in your
packet for review.

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Um and then a letter that I uh wanted to
include uh for some communications

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testing that the the Air Force is doing.
Um I put out a message on Facebook, but

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it wasn't real complete. Um then later I
had put this letter on there as well. Um

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one thing I'll add to that um the the
gentleman that visited with me in my

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office, he had said that the uh Harden
got selected mainly because we're within

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a thousand miles of a town in um in uh
Minnesota that was it Minnesota that

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we're within a thousand miles of this
town. And so we got selected as as one

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of the towns to as kind of a base for
for their testing. So supposed to be

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going through September 10th. Um but
they're doing some other things out past

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Ashland and just a bunch of
communications testing. So anyway, that

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» fly flyovers and such.
>> Um I don't know if there's much with

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airplanes or not. I mean, you'd think so
with Air Force, but it's more radio

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stuff. It's Yeah, a lot of radio stuff.
Well, and didn't the communication say

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they were raising the ceiling instead of
lowering it? So, I thought that was odd,

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but
>> yeah, I'm not I'm not sure their full

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detail, but it's fairly regular training
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um
all right, so that concludes that

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unfinished business. Um Jordan may have
a little information for we're going to

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kind of go back to unfinished business
here for Northern Chiropractic. uh the

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handicap sign.
>> Sure. So, I did some digging on ADA

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regulations both in the state and
federally and I cannot find much for

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regulations for on street parking. Most
everything I found was for that applied

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to public entities, the city, county,
things like that. But also on property

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parking was the biggest regulation. So,
as far as street parking, there's

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nothing on the street that has to be
specific other than there is a ramp

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there on the corner, I believe. Um, we
were just talking about earlier. The

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other thing I noticed is that there may
have to be an area for wheelchairs to

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turn around or to pass on the sidewalk.
So, I don't know what our sidewalk

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length is exactly or or width, I'm
sorry, 48 in is what I'm told. For

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passing area, it's got to be 60 in, but
it's only got to be every 200 ft. So, I

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don't know if there's a spot on your
property, a driveway or part of your

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sidewalk, um, has a 60-in area that
somebody could pull off and get around

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somebody else or something like that.
That was the only thing I could see of

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note.
>> The front of my building is over 60 in,

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but the side where that parking spot
would be wouldn't be.

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» Okay.
>> It'd be a 36, I think, or what's the

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standard sidewalk? 36 on that side, but
where they would have access to the

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corner ramp, that whole area from there
to my front of my office would be. So,

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if they were coming off the street from
that parking area, it would be covered.

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But if it was on the sidewalk coming out
of that vehicle, it wouldn't.

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» And then the rest of the regulations
would be applying to things that would

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be on your property. So that' be the
slope of the ramp, the length of the

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ramp, width of it, turnaround area,
things like that, handrails, whatever it

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may be. That would all be on private
property. So at that point, [snorts] um

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I can't see much else for requirements
from the city for street handicap

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access.
>> So if he wanted the street one, then he

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could go ahead and do that then.
>> Well, I think it would be on us to put

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it up because it is street property. I
think it'd be appropriate for us to hang

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the sign and paint the curb. We don't
want to probably get in the business of

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just letting people start painting
curbs.

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» I did over here painted it green.
>> I know [laughter]

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it's not the only place either.
>> No, I know. [snorts]

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Give himself some more parking spots.
>> So, what do we need to do there? We need

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to make a motion.
I I think at this point I'm comfortable

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because I can't find any real good
regulations governing street handicap

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parking. I I'm comfortable with the city
proceeding with instructing Mike to

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order a sign and paint curve
if that's what council wants to do.

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» I I feel comfortable if you did that.
>> How about you Jeremy?

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» You good?
>> You make it.

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» Okay. I make a motion that
[clears throat and cough] we take care

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of the handicap sign over at Northern
Chiropractic Care.

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Hang the sign, paint the curb.
>> Second.

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» Okay, it's been moved and seconded to
approve the handicap sign for Northern

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Chiropractic, including uh putting up
the sign and painting the curb blue. Um,

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any other discussion on that?
>> Those in favor say I. I.

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» Those opposed? Same sign.
>> Okay, that makes sense.

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Thanks.
>> All right, I'll move into new business.

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Uh, Northcon payout number 14 for
$766,41.97.

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[clears throat]

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» There you go.
>> Make a motion to approve.

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» Second it. Okay.
>> Moved and seconded to approve Northcon

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pay application number 14. Any further
discussion?

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» Um Drew, it's your recommendation to pay
this payout.

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» Yeah.
[clears throat]

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» Okay.
Those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Those opposed? Same sign.

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» Okay. Motion carries.
And then the change order, Northcon

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change order number five for $35,42054.

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And did you want to speak on that? Sure.
Yeah. Come on up, sir.

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» Hi, I'm Bill Staley.
Bill,

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» I'm actually the inspector here all the
time. So, Dax wasn't able to come

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tonight. He had a another meeting that
that interfered with this. So, I get to

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I get the pleasure of getting to stand
in [laughter] front of you guys. Um so

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that change order uh encompasses um
three change proposal requests that we

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had submitted to the contractor. Uh
first [snorts] one being uh CPR number

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two change proposal request CPR. Um and
that was for underlap pipe casements. Um

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originally the only underlap pipe
casement was under the main new

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clarifier. Um once we got to looking, we
should have we we we intended but did

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not specify in the drawings the unders
slap pipe enc casement for um underneath

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the the there's a big splitter box that
that separates where the water goes to

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which clarifier. It's a very large
structure with holds quite a lot of

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water. So pretty heavy. Um and and got
piece of pipe that goes underneath a

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14-in piece of of ductal iron pipe
underneath it. it needs to be encased

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because you don't want it to if that if
that settles you don't want it to crush

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that pipe. Um then at the head works uh
and then inside the UV admin building.

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Um
so that's what that that portion was for

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the CPR number four question.
>> No.

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» Okay.
>> I do. So they're going to encase the

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pipe underneath the headworks.
>> Yeah. the one that comes the new pipe

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that's will be [snorts] from the new
clarifier um is underneath the floor. Um

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one of the reasons it wasn't initially
uh intended to be encased is because

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that was actually going to be a uh
pan deck for so it' be a pan deck on top

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of the um old chlorination channels
>> and then that would have just laid

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inside of one of the old coronation
channels. Uh we we chose to have that

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whole thing back filled in underneath in
those chlorination channels.

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» Headworks buildings or the UV building?
>> UV building.

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» UV
>> underneath the headworks building is is

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um there's a pipe that runs basically
the length of that building underneath.

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» The headworks building is already
poured. How are we going to encase that

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pipe now? Are they going to excavate
underneath the new head?

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» It's encased. Yeah, it's all done. All
of these are actually done.

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All three of these are actually done.
Just took a while to get everybody to

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sign everything.
>> Okay. Um,

422
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:12,600
the next one would have been uh
CPR number four, which is

423
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:23,440
after after figuring out all of the
back filling inside of the UV building,

424
00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:28,720
doing all that, we had we had to modify
the way that the box that the pipes that

425
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:34,159
comes. This is the big 14-in pipe. The
UV channel sits like this. The big 14-in

426
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:38,640
pipe comes in here. The old um
clarifiers feed into here. We had to

427
00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:42,559
modify the way that that box was shaped
and it required us to and there wasn't

428
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,000
ever included a stop gate to make it to
where we can't so the water doesn't go

429
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:50,960
down the old UV channel.
>> It only goes down the new one or take it

430
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:55,039
out and it goes down both or make it
block it off so that you block off the

431
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,960
new UV channel and it only goes down the
old channel there. So, there's two stop

432
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:03,679
gates that go there. one that goes
blocks off the new channel, one that

433
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:08,639
blocks off the old channel. Um, they
just they weren't in the design and now

434
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:12,240
they are. Um, and that's what that's
for.

435
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:17,839
Uh,
electrical for demo. So, electrical

436
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:21,599
building is is now the new electrical
building will be where the old pump

437
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,879
house was, the old airator pump for the
digress. There was a huge there's a

438
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:32,000
little building in the back corner on
the north side of the of the plant. Um

439
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:37,760
that's now the electrical building. Um
when Millennium Electric started to put

440
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:42,320
the conduits in the sweeps that they
needed, the the conduit sweeps, the big

441
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:46,639
4-in conduit sweeps are are 6 and 1/2 ft
long in order to make a 90° bend.

442
00:34:45,544 --> 00:34:52,000
» [clears throat]
>> The intent was they would just poke

443
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:56,000
holes through the um through the floor,
cut a cut a big enough space out to get

444
00:34:53,839 --> 00:35:00,480
it down, hand shovel down, and then go
out the footer wall. But in order to do

445
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:04,079
that, they come to find out that they
had to cut most of the floor of the of

446
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,119
the electrical building out in order to
get those sweeps to go down because

447
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:12,000
they're so darn big.
>> And I think it was

448
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:16,800
the difference between construction and
engineering. You know, sometimes you you

449
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,839
come to find out that you you what you
think they should be able to do. Well,

450
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:25,499
we didn't really want to compromise the
the the integrity of the structure by

451
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:30,160
undermining the footer wall.
[clears throat] So, they cut most of the

452
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,520
electrical building floor out so that
they could get all their sweeps ran, get

453
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:39,200
all the electrical, new electrical
conduits put in, had to put a new floor

454
00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:45,640
back in. So, those are the three that
are on that one.

455
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,640
Any questions?

456
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,400
» Make a motion to approve.
>> Second.

457
00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:00,720
» Okay. It's been moved and and uh
seconded to approve Northcon change

458
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:06,240
order number five in the amount of
35,425

459
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:10,240
$420.54.
Any other discussion?

460
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:16,079
» Those in favor say I.
>> I. Those opposed? Same sign. Okay.

461
00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:20,720
Motion approved. Um curb and gutter
replacement for uh on Fourth Street.

462
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:26,240
There
should be able to see in your packet

463
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:31,200
there's uh so part of this is from city
or from u

464
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:36,240
I guess from the MCA, right, Michael?
But um the council would need to approve

465
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,760
the project.
Um, the amounts aren't necessarily I

466
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:45,280
mean the amounts would be less for the
city, you know, under the 5,000, but you

467
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:51,359
guys would have to approve the project.
Um,

468
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:56,400
so you can see the pictures in there.
So, so are these two different herds,

469
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:03,320
two two different areas, cuz you have
around here 5 to $7,000. So, it looks

470
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,320
like there's one estimate of 6,300.

471
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Yeah. So there's two separate ones. I
tried to number them 001 and 002. Uh the

472
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:17,200
first
So we just made up a sheet. Just noticed

473
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:23,119
to city council curb gutter needs to be
replaced at 5 South Terry Avenue.

474
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:28,240
Approximately 70 ft of curbon gutter. It
is sunk. It's creating a low point for

475
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:33,520
water to cool and deteriorate the road.
Estimated cost around $3,000 to $4,000.

476
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:39,200
Uh [clears throat] the property owner
does know about this. Um and then we

477
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:45,119
included the
uh the bid from Eric Day in there which

478
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:51,520
he bid $3,650
to do that.

479
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:57,520
Um so that would be number one and then
I included a picture with it in case

480
00:37:53,680 --> 00:38:00,880
there's some visual people. Number two
would be 10 Fourth Street West. This is

481
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:05,839
the construction right down here by
Center Street. It's approximately 130

482
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:11,359
ft. That's curb and gutter.
The existing curb and gutter is in poor

483
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:16,160
condition as has expired. It's just not
>> or experience significant cracking,

484
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:22,000
breaking and settling. I estimated
around 5 to7,000 for that one. And then

485
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:26,720
I think we got a quote in there for
6,350.

486
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:30,240
» That's pretty good.
The 3650 was the quote for the first for

487
00:38:29,556 --> 00:38:35,680
[clears throat]
for five South Terry and then the other

488
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:38,960
one was you had already had for
>> 6350.

489
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:44,160
» The reason why I'm asking is because you
just had the curb replacement on here

490
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:48,000
just for the just for right over here,
right? But you want them both approved.

491
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:52,240
» Yeah. I apologize. I didn't get them
listed out in the cover sheet of the

492
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,839
council packet. There's two separate
ones in here.

493
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,200
» Yeah, I I see that. Yeah, you could talk
to Jordan.

494
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:04,240
» I just asked Jordan that because since
it wasn't itemized, but it it is in the

495
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:09,280
packet that, you know, and the approval
is basically council's approving the

496
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:11,599
project, not necessarily the
>> dollar amount.

497
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,079
» The dollar amount for the 3 to 4,000
wouldn't be wouldn't necessarily need

498
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:19,040
council,
>> but we're paying what a portion of it.

499
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:25,200
» So, they are two completely separate
projects. Mhm.

500
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:28,320
» Two unrelated property owners. So,
make a motion to approve for both

501
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:33,280
projects. That
>> be okay for one motion. I'm both

502
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:37,520
» I'm fine with it. I think the reason and
you can correct me if I'm wrong memory

503
00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:41,760
probably wipe it all clean from my my
head, but I think I suggested both of

504
00:39:39,359 --> 00:39:45,599
them be on the agenda just for your
guys's knowledge and the public's

505
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,640
knowledge of what's going on. So, the
one is under the $5,000 limit.

506
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,920
» The other [clears throat] one's above
the $5,000 limit. he can spend up to the

507
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,119
5,000, but I just suggested let's just
put it on there so everybody knows

508
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,760
what's going on. So, the one motion for
the one above 5,000 is really the only

509
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,760
one that's needed.
>> Okay.

510
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:08,400
» But with that project, Mike, is the um
property owner paying 50% of the bill?

511
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:13,920
» Yeah. So, the city would only be paying
50% of the um the actual quote in there.

512
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,320
» So,
>> so I think he's still below his

513
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,599
» Mhm.
>> Yeah.

514
00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:23,520
» Yeah. But the original dollar amount is
still above this 5,000. So you can't you

515
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:26,480
still have to document it.
>> Okay.

516
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,079
» Yeah. I don't think that I don't have a
problem with either of the or the both

517
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,880
of the projects. So I'm going to make a
motion.

518
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:36,240
» Well, you already got out on it.
>> Oh, you already did.

519
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,720
» Clayton did make Yeah. motion for both,
right?

520
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,200
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay.

521
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,523
» And I I second both.
>> Second. Okay. Okay. So, it's been moved

522
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:48,400
and seconded to approve these
[clears throat] uh projects for the five

523
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:54,320
South Terry and then the other one
>> sorry the yeah on 10th Street.

524
00:40:51,693 --> 00:40:56,160
[clears throat] Any further discussion?
Those in favor say I.

525
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:59,119
» I.
>> Those opposed same sign

526
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:04,319
» and abstain.
>> Okay.

527
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:09,680
All right. Motion carries. And then Big
Horn County Hospital inmate bills. Guess

528
00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:14,079
this was
kind of new business now. We've we've

529
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:19,280
gone over some old stuff, but
um

530
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:25,200
we had [clears throat] a meeting with
with uh hospital on the phone with their

531
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:31,040
attorney. I don't know if you wanted to
address some of that, Jordan. So last

532
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:35,359
week we had a Zoom or Teams call with
hospital administration mayor and I and

533
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:41,200
then the attorney representing the
hospital and we had told them a couple

534
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,920
of months ago that council's decision
was not to go any farther because you

535
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,359
had more or less said once they struck
out that language of no future billing,

536
00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:53,119
we weren't really interested. So I'd
relayed that message to him. I think it

537
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,960
was in July and then the attorney says,
"Okay, I'll we'll work on it. I'm going

538
00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:03,359
on vacation. and we'll touch base. And
so, um, we just met up with them. They

539
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:08,560
want to keep negotiating and they
understand now where we're coming from

540
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:13,040
as far as the no future billing. And I
walked them through the important code

541
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:17,920
section that applies that exempts us
from payment of most if not almost all

542
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:23,760
of these bills.
And I think what it was, he didn't like

543
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:28,560
the way I wrote it and he just struck
it. And instead of writing it the way he

544
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:32,160
wanted it, he just left it as struck.
And so after we talked about a little

545
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:35,839
bit, he agreed that we need to flesh
that language out of just instead of it

546
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:39,114
saying no future billing, it would say
something of we won't be build for this

547
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:43,839
instance, this instance, this
[clears throat] instance, all the

548
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:48,720
exemptions that are in the Montana code,
leaving the door open for we would be

549
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:53,280
build for [clears throat] the very small
chance that we cause injuries by

550
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:56,640
negligence or misconduct or something
like that.

551
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:01,200
» Okay, so that was their big thing. Their
hang up on that is they didn't want to

552
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:05,520
just flatly say we're not paying any
hospital bill ever ever in the future.

553
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:09,760
They wanted that window and I now that
we talked about it. Okay.

554
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,680
» The other part of the conversation was
so so that was our want. That was our

555
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:20,960
big want is no future billing. Their big
want is they want money now. Um

556
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:25,760
currently the outstanding balance is
220,000.

557
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:30,000
Now, I've made very clear to them that
one of those bills that just recently

558
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:33,599
came our way should not be paid by us.
It was injury sustained during a

559
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:40,079
high-speed chase. That is one of the
exemptions that when those injuries

560
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:43,760
happen, we don't pay. Um, we discussed
some of the statutes a little bit

561
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:49,599
further and both the attorney for the
hospital and I both agree that

562
00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:53,839
if the hospital cannot collect from the
patient and they cannot collect from

563
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:57,119
their third party either private
insurance, Medicaid [clears throat] or

564
00:43:55,599 --> 00:44:02,560
Medicare,
then the statute directs them to go to

565
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:08,400
the county. Um, I know the county is
going to scream when they see that, but

566
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:14,079
that is the way it reads. And so the
hospital is still interested in our

567
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:18,560
previous offer which was to pay 25,000
and then four years of 10,000 or or some

568
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:24,319
other offer and they would like to
proceed with that to see if in goodwill

569
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:28,640
if that's still there between us to give
them something. And so that's where

570
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:32,960
we're at. I told them we had a meeting
tonight. I would send it to council and

571
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,119
council will give me direction what to
do next. I'm still good with that that

572
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:43,359
offer.
>> Was that their um so they did I I just

573
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:48,640
wanted to make sure and clarify that
that we did end up with

574
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:52,560
the the discussion that that would
satisfy

575
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:57,599
the original bill that we're talking
about as well if we move forward with

576
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:02,400
those those payments.
>> Well, I would make it year to date. I

577
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:06,640
mean if if the balance is now 220
>> Mhm. this is still what you're getting.

578
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,960
» And like I say, those especially the
last few, they they continually send us

579
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,599
bills even though their attorney says,
"We'll stop billing. I just got a couple

580
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,400
more."
>> Um, so left hand doesn't know what right

581
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:23,920
hand's doing all. [laughter] But
the way I would phrase it is it's to

582
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:28,079
date. We're not going back to the
$80,000 amount or the $120,000 amount.

583
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:32,880
It is whenever we [snorts] decide to do
this and execute it, it will be that

584
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,359
balance of that day. That's money.
>> We're not paying any more on that

585
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:39,599
balance. This is what you're getting.
What? However much council decides

586
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,400
council can afford, that's what we're
paying

587
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,520
» as like a settlement in full basic. Not
necessarily. Not necessarily.

588
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:47,760
» Yeah. I mean, just that they won't bring
any more claims for those.

589
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:54,960
» Mhm. And then
>> except for if like he said we caused it

590
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,319
and naturally we'll have to end up
paying for it.

591
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,319
» Yeah. Possibly
>> if not excluded from our exclusion.

592
00:45:59,546 --> 00:46:04,640
[cough and clears throat]
>> Right. But it really would be like

593
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:10,079
officer misconduct. It it's it I read
through it too and it's it it very

594
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:14,160
details out that if it's a a resisting
arrest situation and somebody gets hurt

595
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:18,240
because they're resisting arrest and
officer has to use force, it that's

596
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,040
still
>> against the No, it's still against the

597
00:46:20,506 --> 00:46:25,359
[clears throat]
um that that doesn't

598
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:30,040
» that doesn't Yeah. come to us, right?
>> Flowers and chocolate.

599
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,040
» Yep.

600
00:46:30,319 --> 00:46:39,200
So, do we have a motion to offer them
25,000 plus what what what's your

601
00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:42,400
motion, Steve?
>> Well, well, we didn't motion again.

602
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,040
» We didn't motion.
>> Okay.

603
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:49,119
» We didn't make a motion. We We just made
some agreements talking about it.

604
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:54,079
» I guess I'd like to ask Drew, did we
forward that to the next year, Drew?

605
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:56,480
with when we had talked about 20 or
25,000

606
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,960
» is that
>> I budgeted for 25,000 this year

607
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:05,920
» for just that purpose.
>> Just that purpose.

608
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:10,000
» Okay. And then so it' be this year of 25
and the next four years of 10. Is that

609
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,839
what we're
>> That was what our original

610
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,040
was.
>> Yeah.

611
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,000
» Yeah. I mean that's up to council.
>> Yeah. And it would we haven't got

612
00:47:19,457 --> 00:47:24,480
[clears throat]
>> come back from them though that they

613
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:28,640
would accept that. Correct.
>> Basically just asking is the offer still

614
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,160
good. Right.
>> Right. I mean you you can send them any

615
00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:37,280
offer you want. I mean I think they
liked the idea of that offer. Basically

616
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,800
» if I was reading between the lines is
what if they would strike an agreement

617
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,560
with us then they're going to the county
with that statute and saying okay now

618
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,440
you're on the hook for the rest. Here's
the law that says you're going to pay.

619
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,319
And
>> and and like I said, this whole

620
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:54,400
discussion has always been about
goodwill. My legal conclusion is most of

621
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,640
these we don't have to pay
>> almost all of them.

622
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:03,599
» And we're still paying for mainly
because we all live in town.

623
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:08,480
» His position was if if us we two
parties, the hospital and the city kind

624
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:13,599
of come up to an agreement dollar amount
and that they won't bill us except for

625
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:17,680
when it's outside of these exclusions.
Then they're going to go to the county

626
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:22,160
and the attorney for the hospital will
be arguing on the same side of us of no,

627
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,200
you're responsible.
>> And why is the county responsible?

628
00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:28,240
Because it's their jail.
>> Because it's by law,

629
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,680
» state code, state code,
>> Montana code. It's in there.

630
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,359
» Their officers. It's our officers. It's
still their responsibility.

631
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,760
» Doesn't matter.
>> Really?

632
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:39,280
» It's utilizing the county jail.
>> Unless

633
00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:41,760
they don't give them flowers and candy
and

634
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:46,800
» Right. No, it's if we cause something
like if we had actual negligent like

635
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,359
» a problem. What would you call it?
Officer misconduct, whatever that

636
00:48:48,538 --> 00:48:53,920
[laughter]
it specifies that, but other things

637
00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:57,920
resisting arrest and other problems, it
doesn't fall in

638
00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:01,040
» pre-existing conditions is the biggest
one.

639
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,760
» Yeah, that's huge.
>> But all you're looking for tonight is

640
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,400
just [clears throat]
>> direction. Do we need a motion though?

641
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:10,720
Yes,
>> I think it would be sufficient if you

642
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:14,079
had an a dollar amount or payment plan,
whatever. You put that in a motion

643
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,559
authorizing me to present that to the
hospital.

644
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:22,160
» Drew, [clears throat] so we have it in
our budget to pay could pay up to 25,000

645
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:26,800
in this year's budget and then we could
write it in as like 10,000 for the next

646
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:31,040
four and it would be absorbable.
>> Yeah,

647
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:37,520
» I would like to make that motion.
>> I'll second it. You want to clarify just

648
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:42,319
» that we make the $25,000 payment this
year and followed by four $10,000

649
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:47,280
payments
>> every calendar year 1,000 or one $10,000

650
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:52,000
payment for the next four years. And
that would bring us up to full payment

651
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,319
for past bills due to the hospital.
>> Can you specify fiscal year, not

652
00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:59,400
calendar year?
>> Yeah, not calendar year, but

653
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,400
» fiscal year.

654
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:07,680
» Yeah. Yes,
>> next four fiscal year.

655
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:12,319
» So, so that this debt though of 10,000
for the next four years

656
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:15,680
» is not paying back an old bill.
>> No,

657
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:20,480
» we're the 25
good. But the 10 is to take care of

658
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,280
coming years.
>> Correct.

659
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,800
» Not a balance of making
>> That's kind of a trick. So then in other

660
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:30,520
words, you're saying that we're paying
them $65,000

661
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,280
» on hundred and some thousand ask bid. We
don't want that.

662
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,599
» Correct.
>> That's up to you. I'll write it however

663
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:47,760
I'll I'll clarify it however you want.
>> It's we're [clears throat] giving you

664
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:51,520
$10,000 every year to do what you do for
us. Correct.

665
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:55,760
» Well, that's not the way I had intended
it. It was to apply to all the back

666
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,359
payments because
>> if I remember the discussion is the

667
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:05,119
count we I'm sorry the city council did
not want to do 10,000 a year forever and

668
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:09,760
ever and ever and ever. It was no we're
going to pay at that time the end of

669
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:13,760
fiscal year 2526. We didn't have a whole
lot of money but we had was that 25,000

670
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:18,640
and if I remember the discussion it was
well we'll make a few more payments for

671
00:51:16,319 --> 00:51:21,839
all that. But the language I had drafted
in that original proposal was no more

672
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:22,319
bills.
>> Right.

673
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:25,280
» Right.
>> So it would have been for

674
00:51:23,775 --> 00:51:28,559
[clears throat] everything in the past.
It's not paying for anything in the

675
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:32,079
future cuz there under this new
>> that was my question.

676
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,319
» Under if we put this new agreement
together with the language

677
00:51:32,945 --> 00:51:38,319
[clears throat] of the statute, we
really shouldn't have that many bills

678
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:43,280
» coming from the hospital. So
>> what was the total of the last was it?

679
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:49,359
» Well, the one you voted on before this
was like 89 or something. 92. Yeah,

680
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,480
» right in there. Uh I think it was 89 for
>> I thought we already made a partial

681
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:59,359
payment of that bill already.
>> We haven't because it was never agreed

682
00:51:53,839 --> 00:52:03,731
to negotiation. So now to clarify that
Clayton, I I think [clears throat] as I

683
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:07,040
understand it, it would be Yeah.
[snorts] these payments would all be for

684
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,920
settling [clears throat] this whole
thing. And now moving forward,

685
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:16,400
» it the the approval of bills should only
be for some kind of a you know,

686
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:19,040
misconduct or a problem. We've heard
them, you know. [clears throat]

687
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,520
» Okay. Yep.
>> I have a question for you, Jordan,

688
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,960
though.
>> If that statute has always been there

689
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,760
that the county pays, why is this a
bother now? Like, why did this come

690
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,280
forward now? Why didn't they go to the
county? And do you know any other cities

691
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:35,520
that are in the same problem with us
where if the city doesn't pay it, the

692
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:39,839
county comes in and pays it?
I don't know any specific cities, but

693
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:45,040
this attorney
had explained to me he's dealt with this

694
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:49,760
in many other small towns and and he's
very confident this is the way it goes.

695
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:55,079
So, it sounds like we're not the only
one that have had this problem. Yeah.

696
00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:00,319
» I mean, it's a really good
clarification,

697
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:04,646
» but I I asked that question actually
when we talked about like why didn't

698
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:09,040
this come up earlier with and yeah, it's
[clears throat] um but like Jordan's

699
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,480
addressed some of that earlier
>> because they didn't have counsel then.

700
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,440
They were just under their own. They
didn't have that clarification.

701
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:17,920
» They didn't have the attorney on board
until very recently.

702
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:21,760
» Okay. So, they didn't have that
clarification.

703
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:25,119
That clarifies why they moved to the
county.

704
00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:27,599
» So there's a motion on the floor.
>> Second.

705
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:32,079
» And
give me back to the original bill that

706
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:36,640
that original bill that they had sent us
was a reduced bill from a higher amount

707
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:40,640
that they had given us, right? That they
were quoting us and asking us to pay.

708
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,720
» There was a point in there they had made
an offer. Please pay this percent. I

709
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,760
don't I don't remember the number.
>> It was like 54% or something.

710
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,480
» Yeah. But
>> like it was still fairly a large amount.

711
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:59,359
» The outstanding balance just keeps
growing cuz we got we got a $21,000 bill

712
00:53:55,359 --> 00:54:05,040
just a week ago and it was from 2025.
But they just now get around to billing

713
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:09,119
us improperly cuz we told them to stop.
We're negotiating. But [clears throat]

714
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:13,280
they sent us this $21,000 bill. And I
made it very clear at this meeting this

715
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:16,559
was uh somebody fleeing and eluding
police. That's specifically in the

716
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,880
statute. We don't pay when that when
somebody gets hurt when you're running

717
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,839
away from cops.
>> So it's that wouldn't be added to our

718
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:26,800
bill anyway.
>> But medical they their billing always 2

719
00:54:25,212 --> 00:54:32,160
[clears throat] years later.
>> So I [snorts] guess I'm questioning it.

720
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:34,240
What was the Was it 80,000 or was it
200,000?

721
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,720
» It keeps growing.
>> But I mean it's never stopped

722
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:43,920
» with with everything though too. I'm
sure they're attaching one and a half.

723
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:49,599
80,000 is probably a number from
a year, year and a half ago, maybe more.

724
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:54,640
» And they haven't been real consistent on
billing. And now a bunch more have come

725
00:54:51,839 --> 00:55:00,960
in. And she didn't even know the answer
to be to be frank. When the um legal

726
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:05,839
council for the hospital asked uh I
can't remember Roxy on the meeting, how

727
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:08,800
much is owed? She actually didn't know.
She took a she took a guess. And that's

728
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:13,839
where we're getting that number. She
guessed. Okay.

729
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,880
» But regardless, like with your motion,
we're talking about

730
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:22,079
» that covers the
>> Yeah. Then situation in and not knowing

731
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:25,760
what our real bill is as are we paying
50% of that or are we paying 75% of that

732
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,359
or
>> what are we paying of our total bill?

733
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,800
» So, we're we're not paying a percentage
of anything. This is just a dollar

734
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,760
amount we can afford.
>> We're going to make everybody happy

735
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,880
» and we're we're offering that in good
faith

736
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,319
» pretty much. But if we don't have to pay
and they just got to go to the county,

737
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:45,839
then why are we offering them anything?
>> That's up to council

738
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:50,000
» just to try to amends
fees that have been dealt with on the

739
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,760
request of the county.
>> But there's a statute that says if the

740
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:57,760
county pays for it, why are we offering
any?

741
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:59,599
» That was the question that
>> that's I mean I don't think we should

742
00:55:58,878 --> 00:56:03,200
[clears throat] especially if we're
going to go forward and not pay

743
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,240
anything. I mean then we're I don't
think we should. Here here's here's the

744
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,520
legal risk I would see
>> somebody going through each individual

745
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:14,559
bill and going from from the county's
perspective going no you do need to pay

746
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:17,040
that one because that doesn't
>> they're going to do that in the future

747
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,680
regardless now I mean the county is
going to go through and be like you

748
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:24,160
don't pay this you should pay this you
should it's going to come from them now

749
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:28,160
» so
I mean we got good body cameras if

750
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:32,000
there's if they're saying you owe this
bill cuz this was a problem

751
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:35,520
» I see where AJ's coming from though he's
Our

752
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,400
council has always said, "This isn't our
bill.

753
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,559
» Mhm.
>> Bill it to the county. Bill to someone

754
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:44,880
else. It's not our fault." And AJ
saying, "So why even pay it? Let the

755
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,599
county come back pay. This uh hospital's
not out anything. They can turn around

756
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:52,880
and bill
>> the county for all this past

757
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,920
because they statute says they can,
right?"

758
00:56:54,079 --> 00:57:00,200
» Yep.
>> So I don't think we offer any money.

759
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:06,720
So, what the lawyer is saying that if we
if we do make this payment or if you we

760
00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:11,119
can come to an agreement with them that
our [clears throat] 25 and then $10,000

761
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:16,240
for the next four years after this that
will take care of all the bills right

762
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:20,240
now and they won't consider those ours
and then they will go after the county.

763
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:24,640
» That's the intention.
>> That's the intention. We pay this

764
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:28,240
amount. They will go after the county.
>> Okay. Well, it sounds like a pretty good

765
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:33,909
insurance program to keep us out of
paying more then. But even though we're

766
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,909
not paying [snorts]

767
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:41,839
that to find out we owe more.
>> Yeah. I mean we have discussed it like

768
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:47,040
AJ's saying we we've discussed that that
topic's come up a couple times and

769
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,640
the discussion was we wanted to pay
something in good faith that you know

770
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:54,480
defer the relationship we have with the
with the hospital.

771
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:59,520
» Um both the hospital and the county. And
it was the county's request that all of

772
00:57:57,839 --> 00:58:04,000
these every time you arrested somebody,
you take them there and they, you know,

773
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,119
stick a thing under their tongue to see
if they what their temperature is,

774
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:12,880
whatever.
That's the fee we're paying. So, just to

775
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:18,720
clarify, it's been moved and seconded to
uh make a payment in the this fiscal

776
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:26,079
year 25,000 and the next four fiscal
years after that of 10,000 each um as

777
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:28,319
basically good faith payments um to
settle this

778
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:32,880
» to settle in.
>> Mhm. And then they they'd be working

779
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:36,000
with county.
>> So, we're we're just directing Jordan to

780
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,119
do this.
>> Yes. Jordan would

781
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,160
» to make that offer. Y
>> I won't we won't sign anything. Nothing

782
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:46,319
will be finalized. If there's counter
offers, bring it to council.

783
00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:50,559
[clears throat]
>> Just approving you to do it to make.

784
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:54,400
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. You make an offer. It's got to be

785
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:59,319
backed up. So you're approving it for
the money if they accept it, you know.

786
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,440
Any other discussion? Those in favor say
I.

787
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,680
» I.
>> Those opposed, same sign.

788
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:11,920
» I.
>> Okay. Uh motion carries.

789
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:15,319
We move into staff reports. Michael
Public [clears throat] Works.

790
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:22,400
Okay. So, the guys have been working
hard out there. We are looking at

791
00:59:20,620 --> 00:59:27,920
[clears throat] hiring one new street
worker starting out tomorrow

792
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:32,799
down here at the Sixth Street lift
station. We're scheduled Thursday to

793
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:36,319
have the three-way valve replaced. I was
going to ask the mayor if we could

794
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:42,079
declare that as a national holiday. We
call it no flush Thursday.

795
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:45,920
» Oh boy. I have to do some research on
that. [laughter]

796
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:50,400
» So, but yeah. So, we're gonna bypass the
entire lift station on Thursday and uh

797
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:55,839
get that valve replaced and both of the
pumps back up and running. The guys are

798
00:59:53,520 --> 01:00:00,720
working hard on the Dur Patcher. What we
are going to do, our plan of attack for

799
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:04,799
that is we're going to use it. We're
going to document everywhere we use that

800
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:10,319
and we're going to try it with a couple
different types of potholes to see what

801
01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:16,000
kind of results we could get, what kind
of long-term results we get out of that.

802
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:20,559
And uh we will also look into the cost
of that machine, what it's costing us

803
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:26,000
versus cold mix um to compare those
results to.

804
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:29,839
Um, Bill is here from Staley. So, I
thought it would be a great opportunity

805
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:36,559
to if you want to ask any questions
about the wastewater project. I would

806
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:40,720
like to ask him what the timeline is,
what they're looking at right now on the

807
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:43,839
wastewater project. So, you guys are
fine with that. We can have him talk

808
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:47,920
about that.
>> Yeah, you bet.

809
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:49,680
» If you want to most interested in the
finish date, what's your finish date?

810
01:00:49,060 --> 01:00:53,839
[snorts]
I think we just added with those change

811
01:00:51,440 --> 01:01:00,400
orders. I think you would added
36 days to the project and and

812
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:04,559
I can pull it up on my phone and give
you the date when when they're

813
01:01:02,319 --> 01:01:08,000
contracted to be completed. Um
>> well, are you guys still pretty much on

814
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,760
schedule? You're not?
>> Yeah, we're definitely on schedule. I

815
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:17,200
believe um
there's been a couple hiccups where um

816
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:20,160
we thought it was going to kind of push
us out and I don't think it will. I

817
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:23,680
think we made up a lot of time this
summer. Um,

818
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,559
» and last winter
>> and last winter and the fact that we had

819
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:31,599
a fairly open winter and we're able to
pour concrete from January till last

820
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:35,920
Friday.
>> Um,

821
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:40,880
concrete structure-wise,
uh, sorry, I'm trying to make this thing

822
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:47,480
blow up so I can breathe.
Um, we pretty much we have a couple of

823
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,480
uh

824
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:55,680
I'm going to I'm going to throw you guys
another curveball about change orders.

825
01:01:53,520 --> 01:02:01,040
Um, here's an example of what you were
asking about earlier. When we removed

826
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:06,992
the when we excavated for the new
clarifier, it ended up exposing the the

827
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:09,599
pipes underneath the old clarifiers
[snorts and clears throat]

828
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:14,720
effes
on the side. Those pipes literally fell

829
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:19,119
out of the bottom.
>> Shut that one down.

830
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:23,040
» Yep. Yep. 100%. Well, in order to
replace them, you the way that those are

831
01:02:21,839 --> 01:02:26,880
designed, in order to make them
watertight again, you got to literally

832
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:33,680
cut the box off and put a new box in.
You can't just try to fix the floor. Um,

833
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:37,760
it it just won't be watertight. Um, and
you really don't want sewage leaking

834
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:44,799
out. So, watertight is is crucial. So,
to do that, you need to cut the the old

835
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:49,280
box off, pour a new box in. Um,
that is a change order that is coming

836
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:53,040
soon. We're about done with with what we
wanted them to, you know, the design we

837
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:56,720
wanted them to go with on that. We did
change it a little bit to make it to

838
01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:00,079
where instead of the penetrations for
the pipes coming straight into the

839
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:04,640
bottom or all gravity weights pulling
down on them all the time on the gasket

840
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:08,400
that closes off of the concrete between
the pipe and the concrete. One of them

841
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:13,040
now is going to come in horizontally
where that's much less likely to happen.

842
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:16,880
Um, just have to make the box a little
taller. It's a lot cheaper to put a

843
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:19,920
couple extra yards of concrete than have
to dig that up and replace a bunch of

844
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:24,160
pipe. Um,
>> cuz that will happen again.

845
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:27,359
» And doing that on both of the old units.
>> Yep.

846
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:33,280
» Yeah. Well, I mean, we don't know what
the other one is yet cuz we haven't

847
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:37,599
exposed it, but chances are pretty good.
>> Um, by the same contractor.

848
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:40,480
» Yeah. And and it's [clears throat] never
going to be cheaper for you guys to have

849
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:44,480
that done than when you got a contractor
sitting on site already doing that.

850
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:47,119
Right. So that's that's kind of the the
thought we had behind that.

851
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:51,760
» But the work's not done yet.
>> No, not on that part. No.

852
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:55,200
» No, they haven't even seen a design yet.
So um

853
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:57,440
» but they know it's coming and it
>> they know it's coming.

854
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:03,599
» Yeah.
>> Um they they've actually we've done a

855
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,240
lot of talking with them to say what's
the best option? What do you guys what

856
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,240
do you guys want to see? how can we
build this correctly that's easiest for

857
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:15,440
you to construct and have a good product
at the end. So that's been a good good

858
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:19,119
work with Northcon is has been we have a
lot of conversations back and forth of

859
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:22,000
you know what what's good what's bad
what do you think's best for

860
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:25,839
construction there's a lot of of
interaction with that and I think that

861
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:30,720
helps you get a better product the city
gets a better product really hard part

862
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:35,039
is once they start tearing into
something they find a bad spot they keep

863
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:39,760
kind of keep going it would be nice to
have all those parts picked up so like

864
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:43,539
our line going into the oxidation ditch
that

865
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:47,440
is in pretty bad shape, but
[clears throat] 10 ft away they're

866
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:51,520
putting in brand new penetrations, it
would make a lot of sense to have that

867
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:55,039
also through the brand new penetration.
>> Yep.

868
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:59,440
» That's also cost money and time. So, and
and in the process, you know, anytime we

869
01:04:57,359 --> 01:05:03,760
have something that stops them because
we have a pipe that's rotten, you know,

870
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:06,720
that's affecting the schedule of what
time frame. That's why you always see on

871
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,680
a change order, you'll see they'll add
days because well, they had to go back

872
01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:13,200
in and fix something that they didn't
intend to have to fix. They needed those

873
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:16,960
extra days because the sequence of
things that are happening change. They

874
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,799
had to do stop what they were should
have been doing to do something else.

875
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:25,039
» Um,
so I guess that's a long explanation.

876
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:30,880
Yes, I think we're on pretty good track.
>> Good. Um, right now today they kind of

877
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:34,480
uh they started hydrostatic testing the
the big new clarifier which means you're

878
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:41,240
just testing make sure it doesn't leak
or not. Um, see how that goes. Hopefully

879
01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:41,240
that's good. Um,

880
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:49,920
last big concrete structure was poured
last Friday. That was the the return

881
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:54,240
activated slug bolt that sits right by
the old screw pumps. Um that's where all

882
01:05:52,240 --> 01:06:01,400
the valving pretty much for all the
sludge coming out of the of the plant

883
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:01,400
will go through that system. Um

884
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:06,640
and then the last thing being those
little clarifier boxes. Those are pretty

885
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:11,119
easy structures. So I mean those won't
be a complicated thing. And then the

886
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:18,359
generator pad, you know, put the backup
uh power generator emergency generator

887
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,359
for the plant. Um,

888
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,280
» is the UV building complete now?
>> No.

889
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,400
» Structure-wise? Is it?
>> No. Then we still got half the old roof

890
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:31,760
needs to come off, but [clears throat]
we had to dump we had to drop all the

891
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:35,119
there's all the conduits for the
electrical ran through it. So, we had to

892
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:38,400
get all that dropped down before we
could get the old roof off. And we just

893
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:42,240
didn't want to expose it all. We could
have cut it all out and just ripped it

894
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:45,599
out in pieces. Then we'd have that whole
section where all your electrical

895
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:49,280
currently is running and the plant still
needing to be operated exposed to the

896
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,559
elements. We didn't want to do that.
Okay.

897
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:56,400
» So we can just have a day. I mean
literally to put the rest of the trusses

898
01:06:54,000 --> 01:07:01,440
in will take a day. They'll they'll have
trusted sheeting in a day uh for the

899
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:05,021
remaining part. But the other half of it
over the old UV channels. Yeah. That's

900
01:07:03,359 --> 01:07:08,400
all that's all been trust and sheeting.
[clears throat]

901
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:14,720
Um, obviously the new headworks have
concrete roof, so it's it's closed in.

902
01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:20,000
Uh, and all all the uh pre-fabricated
concrete panels that were now parts of

903
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:25,200
the new buildings, uh, they're all up
and most of them are uh, culp and ready

904
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:29,920
to go. They're just finished up this
week on on getting some done.

905
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:35,599
» I know on the por they had issues with
the new headworks building floor. What

906
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:39,200
was ever resolved with that to get that
floor repaired?

907
01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:44,559
» I think we did a lot of work with Croll
Concrete and uh their mix design person

908
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:50,079
and everybody else. The the contractor,
the subcontractor, Woodford Industrial

909
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:54,319
Concrete. Um
we changed the air and slump ratios a

910
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:58,720
little bit. Same concrete. We're able to
get a lot better, a lot more workable

911
01:07:56,079 --> 01:08:02,559
money than and I think we address that
situation.

912
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:06,319
set floor is a little bit uneven in the
headworks and there's uh plans Northcon

913
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:10,720
already knows about it and they're
working with Woodford to fix it. I mean

914
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:14,960
that's on them. That's not on the city
that they have in you know if it's too

915
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:18,159
crooked
>> but it's not done yet. It's still in the

916
01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:23,839
works to get done.
>> Yeah, they they'll probably just epoxy

917
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:28,560
coat it. Self-le selfleing epoxy coating
which that has to be coated anyhow. This

918
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:35,239
will just be a little bit more stuff.
But that'll be on our That's on.

919
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:35,239
Um,

920
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:42,480
do you know when the new clarifier will
be on?

921
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:47,679
I believe that by the end of the month,
I'm hoping to see that new clarifier

922
01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:51,839
spinning and running. Um, I'm being
pretty optimistic. There's a lot of

923
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:56,640
stuff still to go in there. We got to
pass a hydrostatic test before we start

924
01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:58,960
putting sewage in. So, I mean,
>> if all [laughter] goes well and

925
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:04,560
efficiently, [clears throat] I think
absolutely we can get that thing running

926
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:08,239
in in the time frame. Um, so that's huge
because that all the bypassing we're

927
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:12,719
doing, we can then start taking that
back into the plant, trading that and

928
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:16,000
clearing out that bypass.
>> Are we taking 100% of our sewage through

929
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,679
the plant yet?
>> Off and on.

930
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:23,040
» Off and on. I know some days that they
do have to bypass a little bit because

931
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:28,640
they just can't keep that that one
little clarifier from from stirring up

932
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:34,960
to that um and the last thing you want
to do is discharge scum into the river,

933
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:39,600
» right? Uh
Dean and Dean and Stephen work pretty

934
01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:43,359
hard at trying to keep making sure that
you know they're making that water

935
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:47,600
clarifier doing work of two and and
spend a lot of work for them but they're

936
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:54,800
getting I mean
inevitably I think um the the by the way

937
01:09:50,960 --> 01:10:00,719
the old uh lagoon is down a lot the last
few weeks having them being able to take

938
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:05,120
on full flow it's come down boy I don't
know 4T rough 3 ft probably.

939
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:09,520
» It's come down a bunch. So, looking a
lot better as far as capacity.

940
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:13,520
» Didn't hurt to have that.
>> Only thing good about the hot days was

941
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:18,000
that. Um, but everything else I think is
on track. I I think we're in a good

942
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:22,360
place and I suspect that by next spring
you're going to have a brand new

943
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,360
wastewater plant.

944
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:30,960
» All right. Well, we appreciate you
sharing that. Thanks, Michael. Um,

945
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:34,623
» thanks for your time, Bill. Yeah, we
appreciate it.

946
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:37,199
» Drew, do you have anything for finance?
[snorts]

947
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:42,480
» Uh, a few things. Uh, we received our
other post-employment benefit valuation

948
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:47,120
for fiscal year 26. This is the fiscal
year we have to do the full valuation.

949
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:51,679
Um, that actually went down with our new
insurance carrier, $80,75. [snorts]

950
01:10:49,689 --> 01:10:56,440
[clears throat]
Uh, so the total liability there is

951
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:56,440
$298,58.

952
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:03,440
Uh we did receive a letter this week
that we did not receive the CDBG

953
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:08,480
planning grant that we applied for to
help pay for the capital improvement

954
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:13,199
plan. Um so we're making other other
plans or just moving forward without

955
01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:17,920
part of that plan that we had originally
decided to do the payer part of it. Um

956
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:22,159
we got to make a final decision on that
and get moving forward. We also don't

957
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:26,560
want to lose our MSE funding uh for
which we applied and we're already

958
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:30,400
awarded money for that project. Um, and
then also I didn't get the notice in

959
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:34,560
time for this meeting, but we should be
getting a tip payment notice in between

960
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:40,800
now and the next council meeting. And
I'm expecting it to be around $570,000.

961
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:45,840
Um, so I'll let you guys know and put it
on the agenda for next council meeting.

962
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:49,920
That's all I had. [clears throat]
>> All right. Thanks, Drew. Um, interim

963
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:53,760
chief.
>> Um, like Twain said, [clears throat] we

964
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:58,560
expanded our patrol hours. Um, so our
officers have been pretty busy, staying

965
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:04,239
busy with calls for services. Um, from
August 18th through the 31st, we've had

966
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:08,480
a total of 104 calls for service. Um,
agency assists being at four, motor

967
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:12,560
vehicle accidents being at five,
reckless drivers being at three,

968
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:17,280
disturbances being at 30, animal
problems being at four, thefts being at

969
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:22,800
four, domestic disturbances and assaults
being at six, vandalisms being at 8,

970
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:27,600
pedestrian checks being at 23, traffic
stops being at six, DUI being at two,

971
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:32,880
fraud reports being at 9, and a total of
37 case reports created in that time

972
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:37,040
zone. Um, like point said, Officer
Longstreth went to the academy today, so

973
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:41,199
he'll be there for the next 3 months and
then come back. Officer [clears throat]

974
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:45,440
Sedarz has about a month and a half of
his field training left and then he'll

975
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:50,480
be on the streets. Um, we got we offered
a guy a conditional offer, so I have him

976
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:54,800
in backgrounds right now. So, I'm still
working on with that. Hopefully, we can

977
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:58,400
get him on soon if everything goes good.
And yeah, like I said, our officers have

978
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:01,760
been really busy doing a good job. So,
that's all I got. All right.

979
01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:03,920
» I have a question for you.
>> Thank you. Yeah.

980
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,400
» Um, so you said how many calls of
service we have?

981
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:12,480
» 104.
>> Um, do you have a few months ago again

982
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:18,239
we have I heard I think numbers of over
300 340. Is that not anymore?

983
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:21,760
» It it changes. So the officers hasn't
been, you know, I tell them to patrol

984
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,640
around. Uh, what it used to be is
they'll go by residence and do a

985
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,200
security check and call it on the radio
to put a call for service in. Um, I

986
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,239
don't I don't know why. I'm going to
[clears throat] have them do it more,

987
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,441
but they haven't been putting that in
and they just been patrolling around.

988
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,040
Um, so that's probably what makes that
[clears throat] go up a little more.

989
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,719
» Okay.
>> Um,

990
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:41,120
» also that's a twoe period where George
report in a 30-day period.

991
01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:43,440
» Yeah.
>> Oh, okay. Okay.

992
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:48,000
» Yeah. This is only the 18th through the
31st. So that's a pretty high call

993
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:51,600
volume from 18th through the 31st.
>> Okay. I was just curious.

994
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:54,080
» Thank you. And what are the hours now?
>> Um, I'm not going to give the patrol

995
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,400
hours out to the public, but I'll let
you know after.

996
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:03,040
Any other questions?
All right. Thank you, Jordan. Anything

997
01:14:02,159 --> 01:14:06,880
for legal now or
>> we'll have a closed session to discuss

998
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:14,560
some legal matters.
>> Okay. And economic development. Tina.

999
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:18,480
» Good evening, council. Since our last
meeting, I have continued working with

1000
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:23,280
our regional, state, and local partners
on several ongoing projects. I

1001
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:29,040
participated in the MEA workshop or
excuse me, workforce connect meeting.

1002
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:33,520
met with Rachel Young, our tour tourism
grant specialist,

1003
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:39,679
participated in the USDA check-in with
Casey Watson and Maras Tusky with Fair

1004
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:44,719
RCND and continued coordination with
Montana Main Street and Department of

1005
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:49,360
Commerce. A significant portion of my
time has been focused on moving the

1006
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:55,840
wayfinding implementation project into
the bidding phase. The bids are due

1007
01:14:52,320 --> 01:15:00,000
September 25th. I researched potential
companies and responded to companies

1008
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:05,679
with questions about the project and the
bidding process. We are now moving from

1009
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:10,000
the planning and research stage towards
implementation.

1010
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:15,920
I also continued work on our tourism
efforts including zoom particip

1011
01:15:13,679 --> 01:15:23,120
excuse me including participating in a
zoom meeting with Alex with destination

1012
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:27,840
IQ regarding the tourism website.
We have also been working with travel

1013
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:33,280
stories, questions, and information as
we continue developing our tourism

1014
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:38,400
resources. I've also been contacting
businesses to update information and

1015
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:43,920
community listings for the visit
southeast Montana website. In addition,

1016
01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:48,800
I had a discussion with the local
business owner regarding the possibility

1017
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:54,960
of a mural on his building as part of
our involvement with reimagining Ro. And

1018
01:15:51,520 --> 01:16:00,080
I also continue have continued
communication with HRDC

1019
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:05,360
regarding the local properties and their
upcoming board meeting. Overall, the

1020
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:11,280
focus this month has been on moving
current projects forward, particularly

1021
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:15,600
the wayfinding project, while continuing
to develop our tourism resources,

1022
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:21,360
maintain
partnerships, and identifying

1023
01:16:18,719 --> 01:16:27,120
uh opportunities for future economic and
community development.

1024
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:30,400
» All right. Thank you, Tina. All right.
We'll move into resolutions and

1025
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:35,520
ordinances.
Starting with resolution number 2449.

1026
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:42,137
Resolution approve assessments being
placed on the real property tax roles as

1027
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:42,137
a special assessment. [clears throat]

1028
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:49,120
» Make a motion to approve resolution
2449.

1029
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:54,320
» Second that motion.
>> Okay, it's been motioned and approve and

1030
01:16:51,760 --> 01:17:00,239
seconded to approve resolution number
2449 for the unpaid assessments.

1031
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:04,560
Any further discussion on that? Those in
favor say I. I.

1032
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:10,719
» Those opposed. Same sign. The motion
carries. Uh resolution number 2450

1033
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:15,120
increasing uh increase rates and charges
for the users of the water system that

1034
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:18,520
we discussed in the public hearing
tonight too.

1035
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:24,440
» Make a motion to approve resolution
2450.

1036
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,760
» Is there a second to that?
>> Second.

1037
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:35,040
» Okay. It's been moved and seconded for
resolution number 2450

1038
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:38,480
for the water rates. Any further
discussion? Those in favor say I.

1039
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,920
» I.
>> Those opposed.

1040
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:46,880
Okay. Motion carries. And then
resolution number 2451

1041
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,880
for assessing lighting district number
one.

1042
01:17:50,239 --> 01:17:56,800
» I'll make a motion for resolution 2451.
>> Second.

1043
01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:02,000
» Okay. Okay, it's been moved and seconded
for resolution number 2451.

1044
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:03,440
Any further discussion? Those in favor
say I.

1045
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:07,360
» I.
>> Those opposed.

1046
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:13,840
» Okay, motion carries on that resolution
number 2452,

1047
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:19,199
assessing lighting district number 54.
>> Make a motion to approve resolution

1048
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:22,000
2452.
>> Second.

1049
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:27,920
» Okay. It's been moved and seconded to
approve resolution number 2452,

1050
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:31,120
lighting district number 54. Any any
further discussion? Those in favor say

1051
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,600
I.
>> I.

1052
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:41,760
» Those opposed.
Okay. Moving into resolution 2453

1053
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:47,000
assessing the cost of garbage disposal.
>> Make a motion to approve resolution

1054
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,000
number 2453.

1055
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:54,480
I'll second that motion.
>> Okay. It's been moved and seconded for

1056
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:58,320
resolution number 2453.
Any other discussion on that?

1057
01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:03,120
» Yeah, I got a question. Now, this is
based on the cans or

1058
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,040
» just a collection?
>> Collection.

1059
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,199
» Both per cans. Both
>> per can.

1060
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,080
» Both.
>> Both.

1061
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:14,760
» Whether it's large or small.
>> What's the hospital at such a low rate?

1062
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,960
» The same as a hospital. [clears throat]
Uh, depends on

1063
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,440
» more.
>> No, I know.

1064
01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:26,320
» And they're they're being picked up
every day.

1065
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,239
» That isn't that can't be hospital.
>> This might be a different hospital

1066
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,320
property.
>> It's probably the house next to the

1067
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:35,440
hospital.
>> There's different houses that they own.

1068
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:38,440
» Yeah, cuz they own Raymond's old house,
right?

1069
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:45,679
» Maybe we need to specify. [laughter]
>> That's what he property numbers for in

1070
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:50,000
the lefth hand column. That's associated
with the property.

1071
01:19:46,719 --> 01:19:52,480
» Okay. I see it. I don't see which Oh, I
see it's hospital.

1072
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:55,040
» You have to have the tax.
>> Yeah, you just have to look at the tax

1073
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,440
number on the on the
>> Well, that's what my question was.

1074
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:01,199
» You called them.
>> It threw It threw me off.

1075
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:04,800
» Yeah, I see your question. Yeah, you
just saw the first one on there.

1076
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:08,560
» All right, I'm good then.
>> Okay. Any other discussion? Those in

1077
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:11,040
favor say I.
>> I. [clears throat]

1078
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:16,800
» Those opposed.
Okay. Resolution number 2454

1079
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:20,239
adopting the final uh budget for the
fiscal year 2627

1080
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,199
that [clears throat] we discussed
tonight.

1081
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,360
» Make a motion to approve resolution
2454.

1082
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:29,840
» Second.
>> Okay, it's been moved and seconded for

1083
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:34,080
resolution number 2454.
Any other discussion on that? Those in

1084
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:38,800
favor say I. I.
>> Those opposed?

1085
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:44,880
Okay. Motion carries in the resolution
number 2455

1086
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:49,040
uh for taxes and levies fiscal year 26
and 27.

1087
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:52,560
Make a motion to move resolution number
2455.

1088
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:56,800
» Second.
>> Okay, it's been moved and seconded for

1089
01:20:54,239 --> 01:21:00,640
resolution number 2455.
Any other discussion? [clears throat]

1090
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:03,120
Those in favor say I.
>> I.

1091
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:06,960
» Those opposed.
>> Okay. Okay. And the last one is

1092
01:21:04,719 --> 01:21:11,520
resolution number 2456 amending the
landfill schedule.

1093
01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:15,679
» Make a motion to approve resolution
number 2456.

1094
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:21,199
» I'll second it.
>> Okay. Moved and seconded to approve

1095
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:25,840
resolution number 2456 for the landfill
schedule.

1096
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:34,159
Any other discussion on that? I I think
I guess I did have a question on that

1097
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:39,280
where it said a pickup truck 3/4 ton.
What would that difference be if it was

1098
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:43,386
a one ton or a 3/4 ton pickup?
>> Box size.

1099
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:46,640
» Box size perhaps.
[snorts]

1100
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:52,000
» Typically the like one ton truck can
haul more than a 3/4 ton truck. So, we

1101
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:55,176
have a different fee for a half ton
truck, a different fee for a 3/4 ton

1102
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:58,400
truck, and a different fee for a one
[clears throat] ton truck. I

1103
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,520
» I just kind of question. I thought that
was a pickup would

1104
01:22:00,719 --> 01:22:06,080
» kind of different.
>> Which line item are you looking in there

1105
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:11,719
» or down to?
>> I just remember seeing it in here.

1106
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,719
» Right. You

1107
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:25,199
cars are light trucks up. So,
>> oh, sorry. I'm looking at tires. Um,

1108
01:22:22,719 --> 01:22:29,679
» yeah, there was [clears throat]
>> because it's based on weight. So, it's

1109
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:31,520
not you're just they weigh in and out.
So, it's

1110
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:35,679
» on the very bottom. City of Harden
residents hauling non-b businessiness

1111
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:40,080
waste in vehicles no larger than a 3/4
ton pickup or equivalent size trailer

1112
01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:44,320
will not be charged a dump fee.
>> Correct. Yeah, that's me or you. That's

1113
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:52,520
» city resident. So, if I roll in there
with my one ton truck and I'm going to

1114
01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:52,520
get charged for dumping my

1115
01:22:52,560 --> 01:23:00,080
» your commercial waste,
>> but I'm if I call my residential waste

1116
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:04,719
up there and but my pickup is a one ton
pickup, I'm going to be charged whereas

1117
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:09,199
it's saying 3/4 ton.
>> Well, it's saying no larger than a 3/4

1118
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:12,400
ton pickup.
I think that we can address that, but

1119
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:15,040
it's probably listed because they don't
want you bringing in like a twotonon

1120
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,280
truck. So,
>> well, I'm just I just thought that I saw

1121
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,560
it and I
>> Well, I see the point.

1122
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:24,560
» Um,
>> what's the difference if I have a one

1123
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:29,040
ton truck or a 3/4 ton truck if do I
make, you know, two trips with a

1124
01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:32,800
» I it just seemed odd.
>> You're not talking construction stuff.

1125
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:35,600
You're just talking like just said just
waste. You know, if I'm going to bring

1126
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:39,320
up waste, does it make a difference what
I'm bringing it up in?

1127
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:47,520
We can we can address it.
>> I think what they're looking at is

1128
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:53,077
mainly you doing commercial,
>> but that's separated in in it above

1129
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:55,600
saying commercial waste has a
[clears throat]

1130
01:23:53,520 --> 01:24:01,120
» I don't think that they'd charge you for
if you had a one one ton truck bringing

1131
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:04,320
it up there with a pickup box full of
garbage bags or something from your

1132
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:07,679
house. Um
>> leaves. So, should that be struck from

1133
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,360
the
>> Jordan? Do you have any [snorts]

1134
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:14,880
suggestion? Can we
>> see that out into a pickup and

1135
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:17,840
» you can change it? I'm not sure if it's
an actual issue.

1136
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,199
» I'm not familiar with anybody ever
raising that as a problem that anybody's

1137
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:25,173
ever been charged
>> under that scenario. I mean, you make a

1138
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:27,120
good point, but I'm just not sure
[clears throat]

1139
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:31,920
» if anybody's ever been charged. If they
did, they can come to

1140
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:35,520
» I think the rate really was reflected
and they just probably grabbed the

1141
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:42,400
number, but they're not looking for two
ton trucks coming through, you know,

1142
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:44,800
manager that's up there would would take
that into consideration.

1143
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,400
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1144
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:53,040
» I Yeah, I don't check your residence as
well.

1145
01:24:50,639 --> 01:24:56,560
» It's a good point, George. But yeah,
>> I don't think

1146
01:24:54,960 --> 01:25:02,560
» I think it is kind of a combination
between like what Steve said is, you

1147
01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:08,560
know, you bring a F450, F550 full
>> loaded down or

1148
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:14,960
» they're talking their basic
lighter duty pickup truck. But okay,

1149
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:20,880
» then you got to prove that you're
up that you for 6 months.

1150
01:25:18,159 --> 01:25:25,520
» Okay, it's been moved and seconded. Um,
any other discussion on that?

1151
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,920
Okay. Those in favor say I.
>> I.

1152
01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:31,040
» Those opposed.
>> I.

1153
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:37,400
» Okay. [clears throat]
Um, public comment. Any public comment

1154
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,400
tonight?

1155
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:46,400
Okay. Seeing none, move into
announcements. Um, city website,

1156
01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:52,080
hardenmonttana.gov.
Montana spelled out. And then our email

1157
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:57,679
addresses will be the same exact prefix
uh just will be at mont pardon

1158
01:25:54,320 --> 01:26:02,800
montana.gov instead of hardenm.com the
old one. So same prefixes on those email

1159
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:07,440
addresses. Request for bids and
estimates and addendum uh phase one of

1160
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:12,800
the city's wayfinding implementation
project due by 3 p.m. September 25th,

1161
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:18,000
2026.
uh still openings for the city full-time

1162
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:22,639
police officer and general labor and
part-time general labor landfill and

1163
01:26:20,719 --> 01:26:28,159
then we will have a close session for
legal. So [clears throat] make a motion

1164
01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:34,120
to close the
existing meeting

1165
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,120
close session

1166
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:41,520
motion to adjourn the meeting for the
regular council meeting. Second that.

1167
01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:45,440
» Okay. [laughter]
Moved and second to adjurnn the meeting.

1168
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,440
Any discussion? More discussion. Those
in favor say I.

1169
01:26:46,639 --> 01:26:53,000
» I.
>> Those opposed. Okay. Meeting is

1170
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,000
adjourned. 7:15.