1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:13,880 will call the meeting to order. Please rise if you're able and join me in the 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,880 pledge. 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:22,320 To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it 4 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:28,039 stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,039 for all. 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:36,160 Okay, this is a regular meeting for September 9th. Uh we have a few things 7 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:39,280 on the agenda tonight. I do want to take an opportunity if you haven't already, 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:44,239 please sign in to the log in the back of the room. And during public comments or 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,840 any other time when you wish to speak, please do come up to the podium, state 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,600 your name and address just so we can take more accurate minutes. We're really 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,680 working hard on getting the transcripts of these meetings down pat. So please 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:00,719 don't comment from the gallery. please come up to the podium. Um, all right. 13 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:03,840 So, we'll jump into a couple of our public comments sections. Doug, I saw 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:08,560 you come in. I figured it'd be pretty quick, but um, we're going to start with 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:13,760 Dan. Dan Tsley and our revolutionary war medic. 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,799 Come on up, Dan. >> No pair with the fake. 17 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,680 » I know. Well, I just we gotten so used to starting with this presentation, I 18 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,119 don't want to stop now. >> There. We got four more to go. Can you 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,400 imagine? We've done that. We've done that many. So, four more. warmer to go. 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:33,600 That means we're getting toward the end of the year and and into uh into uh fall 21 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:39,759 and winter. So So I'm uh I'm just pleased to present to you Harlem 22 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:45,200 Townships uh where we on September. September uh Revolutionary War Soldier 23 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:51,520 of the Month, Abraham Adams, 1755 through 1822. Sergeant, Sussex County 24 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:58,320 Militia, New Jersey. wife Susanna Forum Adams 1755 through 1832. Abraham Adams 25 00:01:56,479 --> 00:02:04,159 served as a sergeant in the Sussex County Militia during the Revolutionary 26 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:10,239 War, a rank he held in Captain Benj Benjamin Cochenall 27 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:16,400 Cochen Cochenall Company. Enlisting in 1775 at the age of 20, Adams was part of 28 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:20,400 a critical local defense force in New Jersey, a colony that saw extensive 29 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:24,480 military maneuvering and conflict throughout the war. As a 30 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,680 non-commissioned officer, he would have been responsible for the drill and 31 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:31,840 discipline of his unit, which was tasked with frontier defense and maintaining 32 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:36,879 order in a region often beset by loyalist activity and raids. Following 33 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:41,440 the war and a period of residence in Wyom in the Wyoming Valley of 34 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:46,480 Pennsylvania, the Adams family undertook a significant migration to the Ohio 35 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:50,319 frontier. In 1808, Adams, his wife Susanna, an extended family group, 36 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:54,800 including his brother David Adams and son-in-law Daniel Bennett, arrived in 37 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,920 what is now Harlem Township, Delaware County. They were among the very first 38 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:03,519 settlers to break ground in this wilderness, arriving shortly after the 39 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:07,120 first land purchaser, Banija Cook. Upon arrival, the family cleared the dense 40 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:11,680 forest and constructed log cabins to establish their homestead on the virgin 41 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:16,480 land. Abraham Adams became a prominent and early farmer and founding patriarch 42 00:03:14,239 --> 00:03:20,640 of the community, cementing a family legacy that included the establishment 43 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:27,319 of Harlem Buzztown Cemetery, where he and Susanna are now buried. Thank you. 44 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,319 » Great, Dan. Thanks. 45 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:33,840 All right, Doug, since you've had time to prepare, um I know that you've you've 46 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:38,840 got some OPWC information for us on a grant for Green Cook, correct? 47 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,840 » Yes. 48 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:50,959 » Yeah. Uh thank you, trustees. Doug RLE, uh township leaison from Delaware County 49 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:55,519 Engineers Office. Uh we're in the process now of of beginning to put 50 00:03:53,360 --> 00:04:00,959 together our grant applications for this this uh coming OPWC 51 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:08,159 uh round of funding. And what is in front of the board is um number one a um 52 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:14,000 authorizing legislation having having John uh be the signatory on all the the 53 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:20,239 grant uh applications on behalf of the township. So we would need uh a 54 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:28,800 resolution from the board stating that John can do that. Uh the second thing is 55 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:33,919 a cooperative agreement um between Parliament Township and the uh county 56 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:38,240 commissioners for our our grant assistance program. I mean, we've had 57 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:43,040 this for years now where uh for every dollar the township contributes to a 58 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:49,520 project, the county will match with $3 up to uh a maximum of 150,000. So, in 59 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:55,919 other words, the township puts in 30,000. The uh towards the grant, the uh 60 00:04:53,280 --> 00:05:00,639 county comes in with 90,000 and that leverages quite a bit of local money uh 61 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:06,720 towards the grant and we've been very successful in Harlem Township these 62 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:13,039 types of grants. So, um, those two things can be signed tonight so that we 63 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:18,960 can get things in front of the county commissioners before the, uh, grant 64 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:24,479 deadline at, uh, beginning of November. I do have, uh, one copy. Unfortunately, 65 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:29,120 I didn't make any more of of the, uh, estimate for the section of Green Crook 66 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:35,360 Road. It's between Center Village and Woodtown. It's going to be very similar 67 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:43,759 to uh what we've done or what's being planned for the uh section of Green Cook 68 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:48,240 that was awarded a grant uh this past winter. Um there's no update on when 69 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:53,280 construction is going to start in that section yet, but as soon as I hear 70 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:57,919 something, I will let you know. So, I'm going to hand this estimate and you can 71 00:05:55,199 --> 00:06:01,680 review it. It's Do we have a resolution? We we didn't in the original agenda. 72 00:05:59,919 --> 00:06:07,680 That's why um I wanted to get it a recap from Doug 73 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:13,919 just to understand. So Doug, is it two things we're we're discussing tonight? 74 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:17,919 » Um two separate items. >> It's really 75 00:06:15,919 --> 00:06:23,680 it's really Adam just one item. It would be the uh one item with two parts. So, 76 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,639 in other words, it's applying for the grant and 77 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:32,639 » and allowing Pritchard to sign for >> and allowing 78 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:38,319 John to sign all the documents and then obviously participating in the uh road 79 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:41,319 assistance grant program with the county. 80 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:51,560 And Lisa, you you said you have all that paperwork, correct? 81 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,560 » Yeah. 82 00:06:53,280 --> 00:07:00,240 Bob, John, anything? >> No. 83 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:05,360 Been the best thing for the township long as I can remember. Yes. 84 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:12,319 » It is the absolute best grant opportunity to improve our roads that uh 85 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:18,880 that we've had now for 40 years. So, it's it's been a great program. Um, 86 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:24,880 we take advantage of as much as we can for all of our townships and encourage 87 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:30,960 them to apply every year for, you know, their ongoing road maintenance needs. 88 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,639 » All right. Um, yeah, Doug, I don't I don't know if I 89 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:37,599 have any questions or I know Pritchard's in the loop and Lisa has all the 90 00:07:35,919 --> 00:07:42,319 information. Actually, I think we'll add that as resolution 11. Um, and then 91 00:07:40,479 --> 00:07:43,759 we'll just we'll vote on it in sequence, Doug, but I don't I don't know that. 92 00:07:43,599 --> 00:07:47,759 Okay, >> another question is going to come up. 93 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:51,759 » I appreciate the the opportunity just to come in at last minute and get this 94 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:56,080 taken care of because your meeting in October is a little bit later in the 95 00:07:53,840 --> 00:08:00,240 month and I'm still trying to get all of our township stuff signed in in time to 96 00:07:58,479 --> 00:08:02,319 get the commissioners by the end of October. So, 97 00:08:01,919 --> 00:08:03,840 » all right. >> Great. 98 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:08,639 » Thanks very much. >> And I'm happy to any other questions 99 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:13,080 from the board regarding anything going on? 100 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:21,120 I it it it's probably not even in your wheelhouse, but I will express to you a 101 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:26,240 little bit of traffic circle envy because the traffic circle on Walnut 102 00:08:23,599 --> 00:08:27,360 Road over in Genanoa Township just completed. 103 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,680 » Yes. >> It's very nice. And then on my way home 104 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,360 from looking at that new traffic circle, I saw the ones that we got installed and 105 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,320 it gave me a little bit of traffic circle envy. We don't have trees. We 106 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:42,000 don't have nice landscaping. We're missing some things, you know. You know, 107 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:45,360 I saw the one on 605 just inside New Albany and then also traffic circle 108 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:49,040 envy. So, I don't know. I don't know how to make myself feel better about that 109 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,080 and we've talked about it here a couple of times. Yeah. I'm just going to have 110 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,680 to find different ways in and out of the Harlem Township. 111 00:08:53,519 --> 00:08:59,600 » So, I just I don't know if if you can advise who we should talk to about some 112 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:05,120 traffic circle beautifification programs. 113 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:09,200 I will check on that Adam and and get back to the trustees and with John and 114 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:15,760 see, you know, what kind of discussions we have because, you know, predominantly 115 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:20,880 the uh maintenance of those roundabouts are either the counties or the states. 116 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:28,320 There's very rarely is a township substantially 100% responsible for uh 117 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:31,519 roundabouts. So, um I will check into that and we'll we'll get back to you 118 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,680 all. appreciate that. That was my assumption as well. I just don't 119 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,839 remember anybody asking us what we wanted it to look like. So, yeah, if you 120 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,800 get back to us, that'd be great just to know. 121 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,640 » Certainly. >> Thanks very much, Doug. You're always 122 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,200 great. >> Thanks. 123 00:09:42,959 --> 00:09:50,320 » Um, okay. Before we get into resolutions tonight, is there any other further 124 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:54,160 public comment this evening? >> Going twice. 125 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:58,160 Okay, we are in um the board is in receipt of a couple of different zoning 126 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:01,519 applications this evening. Um, the first thing I want to address with the board 127 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:05,920 is we will need to schedule a special hearing for these. The 30-day window 128 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:10,640 will end before our next regular meeting in October. So, we'll have to um 129 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:18,160 schedule one ahead of that um for these zoning hearings. Does is there a 130 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:22,800 preference um or obligation either way? >> I think Ashley and Pritchard, we had 131 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:27,200 originally talked about the 7th, October 7th, just in keeping with the Wednesday 132 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:33,959 evening routine. I don't know if anyone has objection to that. 133 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,959 » Is that That's 134 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,360 » No, it isn't. It's just under >> just under. Yeah. About 28 days. 135 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:46,560 » 6:30. >> And we can do it earlier. There were at 136 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:53,120 last night's zoning commission meeting, there was one individual, I think that 137 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:56,560 one woman that had some questions, but there were no comments negative. 138 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:02,640 » No. >> Or, you know, we do have to wait for 139 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:06,640 planning. They have not submitted their report. 140 00:11:03,839 --> 00:11:13,200 » So, we would evaluate that >> with it. But, you know, 141 00:11:10,959 --> 00:11:17,279 John, if he's going to be attending Richard, I mean, I would say do it at 142 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:20,720 like 5:00 if if I don't know if you can make it, but 143 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,760 » um I would say 5:30 is probably a safe bet for me as long as there's no issues. 144 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,440 » I'm good with that. >> Moving it up in the day, 145 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:36,399 » making a whole evening. >> So, I think what I would propose is um 146 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:43,640 uh 2605 we'd set for 5:30. Um 266 147 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,640 set for 540. 148 00:11:43,839 --> 00:11:48,640 » I'll moved. >> Second. 149 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:54,399 » Uh so we'll we'll split them up into um motion 150 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:59,680 or resolution 001 and 002. So 001 has been moved and seconded. That is um 151 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:04,000 receive zoning application HDZC2605 RIA and family LC LLC. Commission 152 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:10,480 recommendation to the trustees on September 8th, 2026. Hearing set on 106 153 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:14,480 at 5:30 p.m. Um, all those in favor I >> I 154 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:21,279 » I opposed. Motion carries. And I would ask for a motion for 155 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:25,680 resolution 02 receiving of HTZC 2606. We would set that for 106 540. 156 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:32,240 » Second. >> Moved and seconded. Those in favor I. I. 157 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:39,560 » I. Opposed. Motion carries. >> You're correct. Forgive me. 107 158 00:12:36,079 --> 00:12:39,560 on for both. 159 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:50,560 Okay, we'll move on to the consent agenda. Um, resolution 003 this evening. 160 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:57,760 Uh consent agenda was submitted to the board prior to the meeting this evening 161 00:12:52,560 --> 00:13:04,399 consisting of September 2026 financials um approval of communications report and 162 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:09,040 regular meeting minutes from July 15th and August 19th or their uh end zoning 163 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,000 report. Is there anything in the consent agenda that anyone would like to pull 164 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:15,000 out for discussion? >> No. 165 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,040 » Me neither. I will move approval of the consent agenda. 166 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,920 » Second. >> Moved and seconded. Those in favor? I. 167 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:28,959 » I. >> I. Opposed. 168 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:34,880 Motion carries. Okay. Lisa. >> Okay. Approval of warrants and vouchers 169 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:42,959 in the payment listing reports starting with warrant number 14475 170 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:47,320 through warrant number 14492. Voucher number 158-2026 171 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,000 through voucher number 16-26. 172 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:58,360 Total amount $89,19748. 173 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:07,360 » So move >> second. Moved and seconded. Those in 174 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:15,040 favor I >> I opposed carries. 175 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:18,040 Thanks, Lisa. Chief 176 00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:21,639 got one on here. 177 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:36,000 » Sure. Um, we uh have had a lot of people that have not come to work, um, not 178 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:41,360 notified us they weren't going to come back to work. Some of them we know they 179 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:45,360 left. And so, um, we need to clean up the payroll, um, so we don't have these 180 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:49,199 people. We're not paying workers comp on them. We're not, we don't, these are all 181 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:53,440 part-time people, but in order to do that correctly, we need to discharge 182 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:59,279 them from the payroll. Um, these people have worked, um, have not worked in the 183 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:04,920 last 6 months or longer. And so um for the resolution um to uh 26090905 184 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:11,360 the discharge of firefighters from the active duty roster due to their 185 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:17,199 inactivity. Um and it should say effective May 23rd and not inactive. So 186 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:20,639 in it should be effective May 23rd of 2026. 187 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:25,199 Jeff Bailey, Doug Stewart, Sam Edwards, Von Firmalon, Conrad Joseph, Craig 188 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:29,680 Norman, Brandon Terry, and then effective since June 20th of 2026, 189 00:15:28,079 --> 00:15:33,760 Matthew Gray, Hayden Norman, Colin Wogan. 190 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:39,880 » Chief, just for clarity, it's Doug Stewart or Doug Dart. 191 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,880 » Dart 192 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,800 questions from the board. So, so clearly you haven't been 193 00:15:46,959 --> 00:15:50,240 operating with these people for some time. 194 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:55,920 » Correct. >> But this has not had an impact on 195 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:59,920 operations. No. And and these gaps have been filled 196 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:05,040 » Yes. Yes. Yes. Trusty. And we're actually um looking at giving a doing a 197 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:09,199 little testing process in the fall for just to have a list available for to 198 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:12,320 fill in and we're looking at some other things. Um this is basically this is a 199 00:16:11,839 --> 00:16:16,360 cleanup. >> Okay. Thank you. Yep. 200 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:26,079 » So move uh resolution 005 approval of discharge of firefighters from the 201 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:30,079 active duty roster as articulated by chief 202 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:34,560 » train move singer seconded. Roll call please. Ashley 203 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:38,639 » I >> motion carries. 204 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:44,000 Hey chief I know you do a great job of data analytics and keeping record of 205 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:49,680 runs and things like that. And are you feeling like there's been any uptick 206 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:53,600 this year in barn specific fires? Is there any common thread to that or is 207 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:58,560 there anything we should be conscientious of? No, but what what 208 00:16:56,079 --> 00:17:04,000 we're noticing and what maybe we should maybe in uh maybe in the next blast, our 209 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:08,959 next email blast or our next note, what we're finding is and it's it's common 210 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:14,160 here. It's common everywhere is we're having issues with um battery chargers 211 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:19,919 and we're having a lot of issue with lithium batteries um are are failing or 212 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:24,959 people are getting lithium batteries that may not necessarily be named brand 213 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:30,640 and uh so uh we're fairly confident we've had about three or four fires of 214 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:35,280 smaller or larger nature from um those those type of issu is issues. Um, when 215 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,799 we were on the last fire, we were still we were still working on overhaul a 216 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:43,600 little bit and you could hear the individual cells of those batteries 217 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:48,880 popping off still as the even after the fire was out. So, um, yes, there is 218 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:53,360 there is a commonality. It's not only in our township, it's in Delaware County, 219 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:56,640 it's in it's in nationwide. >> Okay. 220 00:17:54,400 --> 00:18:02,160 um if the other board members don't have a concern if he could check with Lindsay 221 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:06,720 whether there's enough room in the newsletter that that Yeah, 222 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,880 » because that will go out to everyone in the town. 223 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:15,360 » But I know Lindsay's out of town, but Steve is here. So, 224 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:19,280 » no. Can you give us a just a brief FAQ on lithium batteries? 225 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:23,760 » It would be it would it would be it would be very brief and it should cover 226 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,559 everything. I know there's a lot in this newsletter, Steve. So, 227 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,640 » yeah, but we have we have some room. We just met last night. 228 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,280 » Yeah, I'll call. >> We can get that to her by Monday. 229 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,360 Absolutely. >> Yes, sir. Absolutely. 230 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,200 » Figure out how to get something in there. What would happen? 231 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,440 » And I'll advise her. >> Absolutely. 232 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:41,280 » I appreciate that, Chief. I kind of just noticed it on my own as I know you have 233 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,799 worked a couple in the township at least in recent months. And then there was 234 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,360 another one that BSTNG had reported up on 37. 235 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,160 » Yeah. The last little garage up there. >> We got a lot of barns around here. So I 236 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:52,960 just want to make sure that we're >> it's barns, garages, and houses. 237 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:56,080 » Yeah. >> Y 238 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:00,559 » starting with with sitting there the batteries by the people being a charger. 239 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:05,360 » People will leave them in thinking it's okay. And eventually they can fault and 240 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:09,280 they've got the a constant charge coming through. And what a lot of people don't 241 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:13,520 realize is those are all little teeny A batteries in there. They're not just one 242 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:17,760 big solid battery. And all it takes is one of those little batteries to fault. 243 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:21,760 And um if anybody wants to if you're bored sometime go to YouTube and look at 244 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:27,039 just look it up. Look up a lithium battery. It is amazing how quickly they 245 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:31,440 give way and how quickly there's a fireball from them. So they're actually 246 00:19:29,679 --> 00:19:36,160 like New York City's had so many this year. They're banning scooters and 247 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:40,400 things because people take them inside second aftermarket batteries and they're 248 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:43,919 having three four-on fires from >> hover boards. 249 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:48,799 » The hover boards. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Yep. Thanks. 250 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:52,520 » Thank you, Chief. >> Okay. Mr. Richard, 251 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:07,360 » I have a resolution uh for your consideration uh for the adoption of 252 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:13,120 deferred compensation Roth 457b plan for eligible Harlem Township employees. The 253 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:18,000 idea of this is we currently have a 457b Roth or sorry, we currently have a 457b 254 00:20:15,919 --> 00:20:22,799 traditional program, but we do not have the Roth option for our employees. This 255 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:28,960 is uh an option that will allow our employees to uh defer the compensation. 256 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:33,200 That's exactly what it does. And to save money, it's similar to a 401k, but we 257 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:37,679 don't match funds. So if any any residents have a a 401k or any type of 258 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:42,320 uh thrift savings plan with the federal government, it's very similar, but we 259 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:49,120 don't provide any match to that. But the employees can put it in after taxes and 260 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:53,360 then that money uh grows uh with uh you know the the investment and then when 261 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:57,440 the employee retires they're able to move that money out and pull it out uh 262 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:01,760 so that at that point it's pulled out tax-free just like any other Roth 263 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:06,400 investment that uh that you're used to. But it's something that we didn't have 264 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:09,760 prior um and uh I thought it would be a good thing for employees to have another 265 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:14,480 benefit that that would help them out. You have any questions? 266 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:20,240 any cost to the township on this, John? >> Zero. other than Lisa's time and my time 267 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:25,280 and and uh we're going to get uh a um uh we're going to get some uh I actually uh 268 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:30,400 uh called uh to try to get a hold of the uh regional rep for Ohio to bring 269 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:35,440 someone in uh to get our uh township employees some training because the uh 270 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:40,720 number of employees that uh are taking advantage of the whether it's the 271 00:21:37,919 --> 00:21:44,880 traditional plan or this one coming up the numbers are extremely low. um 272 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:49,440 something that uh that I think we need to to at least um give our employees all 273 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:54,799 the information they can possibly get to consider it because uh retirement uh is 274 00:21:52,400 --> 00:22:00,000 is super important as as anybody that's approaching that age or retired knows 275 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:04,159 and uh we don't have uh the uh the participation that I would like and so I 276 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:08,400 want to hopefully increase that. So we'll have maybe a day or two where we 277 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:12,880 have uh somebody come in have a presentation here for employees to 278 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:17,679 educate them on what that what it does and how much that they could retire at 279 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:22,880 uh if they start early enough. So >> is this vehicle within opers as well? 280 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:26,880 » Um it is separate from opers. It is separate. So you've got opers and then 281 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,640 this is separate. And actually, I didn't realize until today when I when I tried 282 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:35,919 to get a hold of our regional rep that it is uh that this program is 283 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:40,400 administered by nationwide. So they they're the ones that uh do the 284 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,000 investments and the folks that are I guess contracted by the state of Ohio to 285 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,320 do this. But yeah, this is a separate program from Oper. 286 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,440 » So in layman's terms, we're just opening up a potential Roth vehicle for our 287 00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:51,280 employees without them having to go to Schwab or their own bank or something 288 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:55,840 like that. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. Yep. And it uh 289 00:22:53,679 --> 00:23:01,120 it's they can I think the the maximum you can put in is around 32,000 a year 290 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:08,720 now. So uh so yeah, that's that's if you're over 50 years old. 291 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:11,120 » Any further questions from the board? >> So moved. 292 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,840 » Second. >> Moved and seconded. Roll call, please. 293 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Ashley. >> I 294 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,880 carries 295 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:31,520 Um John, just to go ahead and do it, do you 296 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:36,880 want to make the motion for the um OPWC contract? 297 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:39,120 It has your name on it as um snee. 298 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:40,960 » Well, as a sign, >> he can't. 299 00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:41,919 » Well, yeah, I can't move one. You have to move it. 300 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,240 » I can move it. >> Yeah, you can move. Yeah, 301 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:49,280 » let's do it. >> I shall move said motion. 302 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:54,320 You know, it needs to be does the uh motion to have John sign does that need 303 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:59,280 to be separate from this particular application because he's going to be 304 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:05,120 signing into >> No, it could be to apply for the grant 305 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:09,679 with John as signing >> this one in all future grants. 306 00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:13,919 » I think this would be an individual case, but Doug's applied resolution 307 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,360 language. Okay. >> For here. 308 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,799 Yeah. So this is a resolution authorizing John 309 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,880 Pritchard, Harlem Township administrator, to prepare and submit an 310 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:29,200 application to participate in the OPW Commission state capital improvement and 311 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:35,840 or local transportation improvement programs and to execute contracts as 312 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,120 required. So this is separate from the other one. 313 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:42,640 » Mhm. >> Okay. Every year. 314 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:45,200 » So I move that resolution. Second. >> Move to second. A roll call, please. 315 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:48,080 Action. All I >> I 316 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,240 » I >> motion carries and then Lisa, we'll get 317 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:59,120 with you to sign that. >> Which one did you read? 318 00:24:55,679 --> 00:25:01,840 » Um let's say Yeah, Doug's gone. We can wait. 319 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:06,559 » Read this one. >> No, that's that's separate. We'll cover 320 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:11,520 that one. >> Okay. Um get into a little bit of trusty 321 00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:16,320 business this evening and I'll kick this off, guys, if that's okay with you. We 322 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:22,320 have um a resolution this evening to approve the CEDA agreement um that we've 323 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:27,919 been working on between Harlem Township and the village of Galina. Um I've I'm 324 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,440 hardressed to think of anything to talk about on this that we haven't talked 325 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:34,880 about in the months preceding tonight um the joint hearing or other meetings, but 326 00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:38,799 I do want to make sure that we give an opportunity to discuss it if there's any 327 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:42,720 lingering questions that have come up. We have uh the honorable mayor, Mr. 328 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:48,080 Kennel in the building tonight. Jeeoff, thanks for coming. Um, and so this is a 329 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:52,400 first step. I'll I'll lay a little bit of what might come after this. I mean, 330 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,919 we obviously are going to vote on it. Um, the village council still needs to 331 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:00,320 have their third reading, correct, Jeeoff? And I think you guys are doing 332 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:04,240 that later this month, right? Um, 21st of September. Um, and it's not an 333 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:08,559 emergency. You're going through the third reading, so I believe it would be 334 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:12,159 effective 30 days after that. Um, says, "I did pretty good with that 335 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,080 legal ease, didn't I, Pete?" Thank you. I've been working on it. Um, but like I 336 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,520 said, I do wanted to make sure that we had time to discuss or ask any questions 337 00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:23,440 and then open up for if there was any further public question on the CEDA 338 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:28,320 before uh we bring up the resolution this evening. So, I'll open it up to the 339 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:32,559 board first then public. >> I have no questions. I have no 340 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:35,559 » any public question or comment on the CEDA. 341 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:43,279 Well, I want to say that's because we did a good job. Um, so I'm going to take 342 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:47,919 that, um, as far as the communication goes. So, um, I'll read the resolution, 343 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:53,039 but then I'll ask for a motion if that's okay. Um, so this will be resolution 344 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:56,799 260909T-007, adopt and approve a cooperative economic 345 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:01,679 development agreement uh, with the village of Galina and authorizing its 346 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:06,080 execution. Um, and so we would adopt and approve a CEDA with the village of 347 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:11,120 Galina and authorizing its ex execution on behalf of the township. 348 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,559 I would ask for a motion. >> So move. 349 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,919 » Second. >> Moved and seconded. Roll call, please. 350 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,720 Ashley, >> I 351 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,720 » I 352 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:28,720 » The motion carries. >> I do. Um and Pete, the long format you 353 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,279 gave me as a draft this evening. You're going to we're going to do a signing on 354 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:37,279 it. >> There's a couple u 355 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:42,640 fill in the blanks resolution number and obviously the village's number. So, 356 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:49,039 we'll we'll circulate a mile copy with those blank children. 357 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:52,240 » Um, Mayor Kell, I know not a lot of pomp and circumstance here in the township 358 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:57,399 for it tonight, but I didn't know if you had any words for us or anything you 359 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,399 wanted to say. 360 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:10,000 » First of all, it's been an honor to be here with you tonight. Um, this has been 361 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:14,640 a long process and I want to just thank uh Mr. Trustee Holiday for his 362 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:20,960 leadership. Um, I think we first met in early 2024 363 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:26,159 to talk about this. I took this mayor I'm retired. I took 364 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:29,919 this mayor job hoping I can make a difference for my residents and our 365 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,520 constituents. And uh, there's nothing more 366 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:39,279 transformational than what we're doing here. So, I just think it's a 367 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:44,720 generational decision. It accomplishes our goals and I'm sure it accomplishes 368 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:49,520 yours since you just passed it. Um, but to maintain the integrity of Harlem's 369 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:54,720 borders at the same time, our residents get to potentially share in some growth 370 00:28:52,720 --> 00:29:00,000 uh without annexation. So, it's kind of a a a new thing in the area, right? So, 371 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:05,440 I hope that we're setting some some groundwork in place for how 372 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:10,480 municipalities and our townships partner together. So, I just want to thank Adam 373 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,159 again for his leadership and I'll be around for a few minutes if you have any 374 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:18,000 questions, but thank you very much, guys. 375 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:24,480 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. >> Yeah, I'll take that. 376 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:28,399 » Good job, Ed. Appreciated that. Um, and I I also want to give credit 377 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:34,000 » I want to give credit where credit is due as well. Mr. Singer made this first 378 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:38,159 introduction uh for the mayor and I before Mr. Singer sat on this board. So 379 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:41,600 Bob, thank you for kind of kicking this whole thing off and getting it going. So 380 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,399 um great big step in the right direction. So um good things happening 381 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,679 more to come. Um I have a couple of other things that I added to the agenda 382 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:55,840 tonight. Um Lisa, I'm going to ask for your help on a little bit of it. I know 383 00:29:51,919 --> 00:30:00,559 some of it comes from um some previous Oh, forgive me. Pete, Holly, anything to 384 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,960 add? I feel like it was pretty quick and easy. 385 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:09,039 » Yeah, appreciate easy. Um you don't need me to stick around. 386 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:15,279 » I don't. No. >> Um would you mind just for a few minutes 387 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,840 as I march through a few bullet points and may want to lean on you? 388 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,159 » Okay, good. >> Okay, thank you. 389 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,880 » It'll be quick, Pete. Um Lisa discussion future approval of members that would 390 00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:28,640 like to be compensated for the meeting from the March 1st on the parks 391 00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:32,399 commission. Uh but I think for me it was the communications committee we were 392 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:38,159 trying to identify. We're trying to iron that out because we had um honored a lot 393 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:43,520 of the same bylaws in the charter of the committee and we had not identified the 394 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,960 the compensation for meeting on that committee either. So I think that that 395 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,720 was the spirit of the email that you had sent me. So I wanted to make sure that 396 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:56,320 we got that discussed. No, we need to you guys when you create committees like 397 00:30:53,039 --> 00:31:01,440 this, you need to vote in the members and then when they resign, they're just 398 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:06,240 like employees. When they resign, then they need it needs to go in a 399 00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:10,399 trustee meeting that they resign from the park committee or 400 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:16,159 » and is that applicable even if it's a non-stutory committee? 401 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,360 It should because they're they're you're they're under your you as the trustees 402 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,480 for >> HAR. 403 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:29,840 » So it should any committees needs the names need to come if they're being 404 00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:32,159 paid, not being paid, not compensated, whatever. 405 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:36,159 » Okay, that makes sense. >> Yes. So essentially what we need to do 406 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:42,080 is for both of those particular committees, we need to vote on all of 407 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:43,519 the members and whether or not they will be compensated. 408 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:46,000 » Yes. >> Okay. 409 00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:52,880 » And then they'll be treated just like an employee. They'll have to do all the 410 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:56,640 paperwork and get on paylex and direct deposit 411 00:31:54,320 --> 00:32:00,320 » just like an employee. If you guys decide to pay parks, you already said 412 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:04,159 yes to >> I think both indications also. Yes, both 413 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,080 of those committees we want to try to maintain, 414 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:11,519 » but there was never names brought, >> okay, 415 00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:16,240 » of who actually is on the committees and voted in to be on those committ. 416 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:21,679 » Mr. Chairman, if I might make a suggestion, have Mr. Pritchard get a 417 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:27,039 hold of the members, see which ones want to be compensated, which don't, and 418 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,559 then, you know, we can vote even at the special meeting 419 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,840 » because we're we're doing it retroactive anyway. So, 420 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,120 » right, >> whether it's 421 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,799 » three weeks, we need that. >> Mhm. 422 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:45,840 » I see you, Steve. I'll come to you. >> And they'll be compensated the same way 423 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:51,120 zoning is once a year. Um, from January to November. December, they'll be paid. 424 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:55,919 If they have a meeting in December, then it goes on the following year. 425 00:32:53,440 --> 00:33:01,519 » And at any time, they can opt out. If they decide because of tax purposes, 426 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:06,240 they decide they don't want to be compensated, it needs to be brought to a 427 00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:08,640 trustee meeting. >> Sure. 428 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:11,640 » And have the effective date and voted on. 429 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:17,600 » Steve. >> Yeah. Steve Eisen Brown. Uh I I would 430 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:25,919 maybe the easy way for communications committee uh Ashley if you could send uh 431 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:30,399 Lindsay a note requesting Lindsay to uh provide you all the names of the current 432 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:35,200 uh communications committee including chair and vice chair. And then at our 433 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:42,640 October meeting, which I think is October 6th, we will pull the members of 434 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:47,840 that uh committee uh whether they want to be compensated or not. We did that 435 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:52,880 informally once. I didn't hear anybody raising their hand, but we will do it 436 00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:58,320 again more formally. That'll give you an active list of membership as well as 437 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:03,760 those who choose to be compensated. Okay? Does that work for you guys? And 438 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:07,519 then October, you guys can vote with the information that you get from both 439 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,000 committees. >> Yeah, I think so. 440 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:13,119 » And then we'll be ready to pay or not pay in December. I can do the same 441 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:16,879 thing. >> Is that all right with you, Ashley? 442 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,919 » Okay. >> I I do have one and I don't have a 443 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:25,520 microphone. >> Where'd your microphone go? 444 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:30,639 » Somebody move my mic. >> Push the button on there. Richard, 445 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:35,919 » button's got to be p John button up button up rather go 446 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:41,679 through. All right. Yeah. Um, one question I do have, Lisa, 447 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:45,919 and this is something that uh I'm I'm want to make sure I understand right 448 00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:51,440 that the members of the committees have to attend a certain number of meetings 449 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:56,480 to get paid. I think that was what does that do for you? Because to me that may 450 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,599 cause an issue if we say, well, you haven't attended these meetings and then 451 00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:04,240 we can't pay. I mean, do we take them off the committee prior to do we 452 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:08,000 discharge them? What's the >> So, I don't 453 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,119 » I I I believe that the there's going to be some nuance difference between the 454 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:15,520 committees on that. For example, with the communications committee, that one 455 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:20,480 is largely attended virtually and in the parks as I have witnessed like that one 456 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:25,200 is much more consistently in person presented, right? So I do think that it, 457 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:29,359 you know, it's going to be different per um but I think that maintaining the 458 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,280 attendance and the roll call of each one of those bodies is going to be 459 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,599 important. >> Okay. Okay. 460 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:38,960 » This is what I want. >> The language in the charter, John, I 461 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,720 think will help answer those question or both. All right. Got it. Okay. Just want 462 00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:45,200 to check because I didn't want to cause you problems at the end of the year. And 463 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:50,079 » I appreciate that. >> And when do you need those names by? 464 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:55,359 » Well, if we could do it in October. >> Okay. But they have to be pretty quick 465 00:35:53,119 --> 00:36:00,800 on, you know what I'm saying? >> On doing the employee paperwork, getting 466 00:35:57,839 --> 00:36:04,640 it back to me because at the end of year it's pretty 467 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:09,200 busy time for >> Yeah. handle that. Do you have any 468 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,160 further on that, John? >> I don't. John, 469 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,200 » who do you want to >> um actually I think it's okay for you to 470 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:20,560 maybe collect the information and funnel it up through Pritchard. And I think um 471 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:25,119 it could be semantics, but for me, but I think it's more of an election to not 472 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:29,280 receive compensation rather than to receive compensation. To receive 473 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:35,599 compensation would be assumed based on being voted into the body. Um 474 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,400 okay. Anything further on that? John Pritchard? 475 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:42,400 » Nothing. Nothing. >> Whom shall henceforth be referred to as 476 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:46,480 Pritchard. >> Exactly. 477 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:51,040 Okay, that checks my boxes on those. Thank you, Lisa. Trusty trainer. Um, 478 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:55,599 » some bullet points I want to walk through for information purposes. 479 00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:01,440 Uh, and then after these first three, Pete, I may just ask you to comment your 480 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:08,000 observations. Okay. So, one update on Southeast Quadrant. Uh John and I have 481 00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:14,800 been uh very engaged with uh leadership at no with leadership in the city of New 482 00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:20,079 Albany and leadership in Delaware County concerning the southeast quadrant. We 483 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:28,640 have received a map from Niko that details the 214 acres they are proposing 484 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:33,119 to annex and we are in discussions um about the future of that annexation and 485 00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:39,599 the relationships of all of those entities. 486 00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:46,079 Secondly, uh we continue to uh work with the city of Columbus on a CEDA 487 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:54,000 agreement. uh they have been uh very open and um engaged in this process. 488 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:59,440 Uh we're at the point where the attorneys 489 00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:07,119 ours standing at the podium and theirs um are engaged in create crafting the 490 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:12,640 language uh for that agreement. Um and so we we hope that uh this can proceed 491 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:18,160 expeditiously. Uh and we don't see obstacles to this at 492 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:23,040 all. It it seems that both sides are in agreement about the general lines of 493 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:28,400 effort and now we just have to craft some language and then hammer it out. 494 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:33,280 Um and then the third bullet point I have is update on New Albony Columbus 495 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:39,839 non-inexation agreement. So, separate from uh the CEDA agreement, there is a a 496 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:44,560 non-annexation agreement with the city of Columbus that we think we can get 497 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:50,079 done by the end of this calendar year. Um and they're very open to this. They 498 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:57,920 have no desire to annex into the township. Uh, however, this caveat, they 499 00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:03,280 still would desire to have um a buffer zone or a set of properties that goes 500 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:09,599 around whatever New Albany might ultimately have in our southeast corner 501 00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:14,160 that gives them uh a a corridor to Licking County. And so our hope would 502 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:18,160 would be that we get this hammered out with New Albany, then they're able to 503 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:22,960 define precisely those parcels that they're interested in and and we can 504 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:31,040 proceed with non-anexation. Uh the hope is uh that as we work on uh 505 00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:36,480 these agreements that is uh nonation with New Albany and Columbus and CEDA 506 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:42,320 with uh Columbus that we will have protected our southern border as well as 507 00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:49,920 entered into uh economic agreements that are beneficial to all parties involved. 508 00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:52,880 Um and so I I'll put it there uh for the moment and Pete I'll I'll let you 509 00:39:51,520 --> 00:40:00,560 comment on those processes. >> Yeah. So obviously a lot of moving parts 510 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:04,800 um uh in terms of um timeline obviously the annexation 511 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:10,800 agreement with the city of Columbus nonexation agreement with the city of 512 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:17,040 Columbus that deliverable um is probably going to come first. Um, so, uh, the 513 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:23,520 ball's in my court right now. Uh, so I should be able to provide a 514 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:30,640 draft, um, to Pritchard, right, as we're referring to 515 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:38,480 him, um, before review um, probably within the next week or two. Um so uh 516 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:48,640 that deliverable um I certainly believe can be accomplished and checked off by 517 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:53,359 the end of this year. um the the CEDA um you know once the annexation 518 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:57,040 um not annexation with the city of Columbus 519 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:01,440 uh is signed it'll it'll make the CEDA agreement I think a little bit easier 520 00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:06,800 than what I would say normal because that's typically one of the major 521 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:12,800 sticking points. So um but once we check that box I I I don't think it's going to 522 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:21,359 take much uh effort uh on the CEDA. Um and then with respect to New Albany and 523 00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:25,359 and uh Columbus and and that um u that agreement, you know, I think there's 524 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:30,240 still a lot of moving parts um but we're hopeful to get information um that'll 525 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:37,200 enable us to to kind of move forward on that. So, um, a lot of exciting, uh, 526 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:42,560 work, um, hard work's going into all those, uh, efforts and and and those 527 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,440 documents and, uh, you know, I think the township's moving in the right 528 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:51,839 direction. We're having a lot of very good conversations and, um, you know, 529 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:58,640 I'm I'm extremely hopeful. So, >> what what do you think of the timeline 530 00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:05,359 for Columbus Harlem CEDA? Um, 531 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:09,200 I mean, we we we could get it. And the only reason I say on the the annexation 532 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:15,839 with um the annexation agreement, not 533 00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:21,040 annexation agreement with Columbus um end of the year is, 534 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:25,839 you know, it is Columbus City Council. And I don't mean that to sound in a 535 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:32,640 negative way, but there's a lot of steps. Um, it's not like us here in the 536 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:36,960 township where I get it to Mr. Pritchard and he gets to you and 537 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:43,440 right there's there's a lot of layers to that. So, um I I think we could probably 538 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:51,440 do the same with the CEDA u by the end of the year. Um 539 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:56,079 um I'm not sure in terms of an adoption um like we've did tonight that 540 00:42:53,760 --> 00:43:01,760 logistically probably won't happen by the end of the year, but I think we can 541 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:05,359 get it to a point where we're, you know, much like we did with Galina where we're 542 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:10,240 actually looking at text and making little tweaks uh here and there. Um I 543 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,960 think that can happen before the end of the year. Most definitely. 544 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:26,160 When you're talking about the southeast quadrant, I mean, I think it's probably 545 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:31,760 just important to clarify there's not no current petition for annexation. 546 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:38,240 » That's correct. And and uh that's correct. And and there may not be one in 547 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:43,359 the immediate future. There's a lot of unknowns there, but again, I don't think 548 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:47,599 that we expect to see something in the near term. 549 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,400 John, is that an accurate >> That that would be accurate. And the 550 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:56,000 understanding I have is that there are no properties that are even on the 551 00:43:53,520 --> 00:44:00,480 Delaware Franklin County border that are being petitioned at this moment. So, you 552 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:06,160 have to have properties that are that are adjacent to one another to petition 553 00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:11,680 for annexation. and and that's not even present at this point. So to get to that 554 00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:16,960 parcel that we or the couple parcels that we're talking about that make up 555 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:19,839 that 214 acres. Correct. So So we've got time. 556 00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:23,440 » Yeah. And we have not given up by any means correct on the appeal for 557 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,880 nonanexation. >> Correct. That's our 558 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:32,240 » we're working that line of about hard >> as we've discussed at length. That's 559 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:37,839 obviously our goal and that that's why that piece is like I said there's some 560 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:42,800 still moving parts. Um and one of those parts is um 561 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:47,520 no annexation at all. Right. And that's what we're trying to work through and 562 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:50,520 figure out the best approach right now. >> Correct. 563 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,720 » Thanks Pete. Dave 564 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:08,319 speak >> Steve Eisen Brown Harlem Road. So at 565 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:12,720 what point on any of these topic areas, you know, what will be the trigger for 566 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:19,440 the public to see content of these proposals? When will we get a chance to 567 00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:22,480 see what's in, you know, I understand as you're going through the drafts and 568 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:27,440 things, we don't need to see that. is probably not appropriate. But so is it 569 00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:32,880 the point in time where one of these comes to you guys at a trustees meeting 570 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:37,920 for approval and then at that meeting that's a public document or will there 571 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:41,160 be drafts just prior to that for people to see? 572 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:50,720 I was just going to say it's probably gonna be similar to 573 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:57,119 » sitting next to >> so um 574 00:45:53,599 --> 00:46:02,319 unlike the CEDA uh which provides us a statutory 575 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:07,040 process that we have to follow uh with an annexation agreement technically it 576 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:14,000 it it could just be brought up at a trustee meeting and a vote vote to 577 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:20,800 approve right so if you want to implement from a policy perspective. Do 578 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:25,040 something different where um you know you you hold kind of a an 579 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:32,079 informal reading if you will um or informal or 580 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:37,839 discussion prior to formal adoption. Um you can do that. Um, like I'm I'm not 581 00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:46,440 trying to and I'm never would encourage anybody to hide anything from anybody, 582 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:46,440 but what I what I I'm reluctant to do is 583 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:57,440 send uh or discuss versions in public that may not be agreeable 584 00:46:52,640 --> 00:47:03,680 » um to um the other party. Right. I I think once we get to the point where I 585 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:08,960 think we're once again kind of tweaking a little bit language here and there, I 586 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:13,520 think there probably can be a high level discussion 587 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:20,079 um about the contents of an annexation agreement or a CEDA or non-anexation 588 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:26,960 agreement. Um um but until we get to the point where we have those high level 589 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:33,359 issues flushed out in terms of no annexation or only this specific area 590 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:40,240 or you know what it's going to look like. Um 591 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:45,040 um you know I'm just reluctant to to to to have drafts out there just 592 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:50,640 because once again I don't I don't want to get people's hopes up. I don't want 593 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:56,960 um I want to try to reach in some sort of uh hierarching 594 00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:00,800 uh agreement with our partner uh and then have the discussion and and and get 595 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:06,160 public input as to whether or not that's a good idea and the board could 596 00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:10,400 Steve to your point like personally I would like any CEDA conversation non- 597 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:14,960 annexation conversation any conversation that involves another municipality to 598 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:18,000 follow essentially the same groundwork that we or pattern that we set with the 599 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:20,560 Galina, >> right, 600 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,839 » agreement, right? Like we I mean, we met for probably 18 months before we even 601 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,040 had anything on paper. >> Well, and and credit to Galina because 602 00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:30,720 they had already done quite a bit of this, especially when it came to the FAQ 603 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:33,760 and and and having that. But, you know, as soon as we got and Pete, I think as 604 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,800 soon as we got to a point where there was a draft that both parties agreed to 605 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,880 and there were no longer notes. >> Yeah. 606 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:42,000 » You know, we we I mean, I think it was within a week both municipalities 607 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,119 published it, right? >> Um and it was probably about a month 608 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,520 before, you know, it came to any reading. So, you know, I and to you 609 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:53,920 know, the rest of the board like I I I believe that that is probably the best 610 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:58,559 practice in that wherever we can repeat it. You know, I think one thing that's 611 00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:03,520 interesting there though is our CEDA with Galina included the non-anexation 612 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,359 agreement. Southside, these might be separate conversations. 613 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:11,839 » Correct. And so we there might be some, you know, duplicative effort um you 614 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,240 know, a little bit of redundancy there, but I'd rather overcommunicate something 615 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:19,760 than undercommunicate it. So I would hope, you know, it's my hope that that 616 00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:22,000 we repeat that pattern as best as possible. 617 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:25,760 » Well, you know, I and you gave me a good answer about three months ago. I asked 618 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:29,040 this question and I I fully understand we we don't need to lay it all out on 619 00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:34,240 the table, but we don't really know where we're headed. So that's fine. 620 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:41,440 » Yeah. I I if we you know can assume that either on a non-anexation or a CEDA that 621 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:46,640 you'll follow uh a you know a practice like you did when it's ready when it's 622 00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:50,480 cooked ready for consideration of signing. So if that's a month ahead of 623 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:55,760 the meeting where you would expect to sign something I think that's great. I 624 00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:58,319 mean that meets scratches my itch. I I wouldn't speak for the rest of the 625 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,920 board, but I know that my personal feelings, as long as I sit here, is I 626 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,480 want that stuff as transparent as possible, as fast as possible. 627 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:11,200 » Fair enough. I'm >> And I think we've been more than Oh, I 628 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:17,200 mean, in in terms of of what's happened, I mean, initially, New Albany said we we 629 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:22,800 posed it. New Albany doesn't want anything. Then New Albany came back. We 630 00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:25,599 shared that. Now we're t I mean >> though 631 00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:26,960 » I don't think that's completely true personally. 632 00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:32,240 » Well, you could >> I think uh you know there have been no 633 00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:36,480 minutes of meetings ever shared of meeting with New Albany or meeting with 634 00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:41,440 Columbus still to date >> which is which is the standard norm. 635 00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:44,480 » No standard of a business meeting is to have an 636 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:49,119 » talk business. You were in business. >> You're going to see Columbus to talk 637 00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:53,119 about AEDA. That's a business meeting. We've discussed this. I I don't know 638 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:58,000 that I want to bring it up again in the city and think it's as transparent as 639 00:50:55,359 --> 00:51:03,359 you make it out to be. Bob you have >> I think I think the point is so I I I 640 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,599 can if I may, Mr. Chair, >> I think Pete 641 00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:08,640 » because my experience is >> been in every meeting 642 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,839 » that we've ever had with >> Well, not only that, but I've you know I 643 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:18,559 get to do I have the pleasure of doing this around the state, right? So, uh, I 644 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:25,200 can tell you that this board is on the higher end of of of of transparency. 645 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:31,040 And, you know, I always kit around that some of my some of my worst trustees are 646 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:35,440 ones that are, no offense, but private business owners, small business owners, 647 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:40,640 because they think that government is going to operate the same 648 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:44,880 way. And you you don't keep meeting minutes, you keep personal notes. uh 649 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:53,920 when you're in these type of meetings which are are not public record. Um um 650 00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:59,200 so you know there needs to be at some level honest discussions in 651 00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:04,079 those meetings. They're not public meetings. Um 652 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:09,280 um so you know there there aren't going to be meeting minutes and I think what 653 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:13,760 you have to rely upon is the trustees who are coming back and telling you and 654 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:20,480 providing you information in these meetings like Trusty Singer 655 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:23,440 just said about hey there wasn't going to be any annexation 656 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,200 and now they're coming back saying they want to annex and and and those are the 657 00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:34,480 those are the conversations that are being had. there there are no documents. 658 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:42,559 There's you know so my point is this this board has been more transparent 659 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:47,680 than most of my clients are and I'm I'm not giving that lip service and I think 660 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:55,119 Holly can probably attest to that. Um, so but at the same time we need to have 661 00:52:52,079 --> 00:53:00,079 very frank conversations with the other parties and if we're publishing meeting 662 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:05,200 minutes and notes there those conversations aren't going to happen 663 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:10,640 anymore quite frankly. So uh it's a delicate balance that we're doing and 664 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:14,640 and you know not because you're my client but I think you're doing a an 665 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:18,319 excellent job in communicating. I appreciate that, Pete. And I think the 666 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:25,040 point that I want to make sure we drive home is there will always be a period of 667 00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:30,240 public review for any document that has a glimmer of hope of becoming statutory 668 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:35,680 in this township to the best of our ability. If if we have a final draft of 669 00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:41,359 a CEDA, if we have a final draft of a non-annexation agreement, if we have a 670 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:45,280 final draft of anything that impacts the public and it is within our purview to 671 00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:46,400 be able to display that information, right? 672 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,319 » I want to make sure that we're doing that. 673 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,920 » You I think you've haven't you already done that with the Hoover? 674 00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:55,359 » We have. >> Yeah. So it's very similar process but I 675 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:59,599 you know I think providing an update as you know once we get 676 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:05,920 » certainty in terms of how we're going to proceed th those those updates will 677 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:13,119 still be provided. Um, I'm sure that hey, you know, um, 678 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:18,240 you know, New New Albany does want to, you know, does want to annex, right? And 679 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:23,119 so this is where we're headed. Or, hey, um, we were able to convince New Albany 680 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:26,559 not to annex and so we're we're not doing the three party annexation 681 00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:31,680 agreement. We're going to move to back to AEDA. Once we come to conclusions, 682 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,720 you know, and and as to the direction that we're proceeding, I'm I'm sure 683 00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:41,760 those that information is going to be provided by you guys to the uh to the 684 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:46,559 residents. But um I think you guys have been doing the right thing and um uh 685 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:51,040 there will be plenty of opportunity for people to look at the documents and uh 686 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:55,359 once we get to that point, >> wouldn't it be fair to say, Pete, that 687 00:54:52,319 --> 00:55:00,880 that our ultimate goal is to not give an inch? I mean that that is ultimately our 688 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:04,640 goal is that is what we are looking for and if if we have to give up property 689 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,760 » 90 yeah no >> if we have to then it becomes 690 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:12,000 » correct >> we are compensated for that 691 00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:18,319 » and 99.9% of my clients are townships and um that is 692 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:24,240 every opportunity that I see that is my number one goal and 693 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:29,119 that is my number one advice to um 694 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:36,640 to my clients, once it's once it's gone, it's darn near impossible to to get it 695 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:42,960 back. Um, and anytime we have the ability to have a conversation 696 00:55:39,359 --> 00:55:49,119 um with uh a regional partner that is enable to enabled us to preserve 697 00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:55,920 our borders without annexation, then then absolutely. And um you know from my 698 00:55:53,200 --> 00:56:01,520 perspective you know I I'm not taking 699 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:08,240 New Alby's answer that they gave me 700 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:13,359 yet. Right. So that's why we're going to continue to explore those opportunities 701 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:18,799 to preserve the township and that's why that piece of the puzzle is still 702 00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:22,160 uh we're still working on. Uh some of the other stuff I think we've we've got 703 00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:29,040 a little bit more direction and I think that's why the deliberals are going to 704 00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:34,000 be um come much sooner. Um so it's too important to rush that piece. You need 705 00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:39,880 to make sure that you're doing your due diligence and um exploring all your 706 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,880 avenues. 707 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,040 » Anything further on that, trusty trainer? 708 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,559 » No, I'll get off my soap box. >> Thanks, Pete. 709 00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:49,960 » Thank you, Pete. >> Glad you stayed. 710 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,920 » Next. >> Go ahead. 711 00:56:51,599 --> 00:57:00,799 » Yeah. Next bullet point is the RFQ. This is a request for qualifications that the 712 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:08,400 uh township would like to uh send out a draft of an RFQ uh from the board 713 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:12,799 tonight to make public and I would um appreciate Holly if you could uh help. 714 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:19,359 Crossroads has helped us to put this together and John has also been very 715 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,880 instrumental in uh this process. So if you two could speak to this as 716 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:28,160 appropriate. >> Yeah. stand up there. 717 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:35,680 » Okay. Uh so yeah, so we had originally brought to you an RFP. We have uh re 718 00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:44,000 revised that to um be an RFQ um to be a little more flexible in um 719 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:49,680 how we approach um the um process in this to give us the ability to give the 720 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:55,599 township the ability to negotiate the contract and the terms um in a more 721 00:57:52,079 --> 00:58:02,079 flexible way. Uh so it's very similar to what you previously reviewed um but just 722 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:08,240 opening up a little bit more um opportunity uh regarding um who can 723 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:18,319 apply and how they apply and then the actual um what the contract will say in 724 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:23,440 in the future. So that's my summary >> and then the idea of a draft I think we 725 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:29,760 mentioned it last month is that it will go out to the world. Um we don't know 726 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:38,480 who is going to provide comment to that draft and that we welcome comments from 727 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:44,160 the residents uh business community uh you know anyone that has any interest 728 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:48,000 in this property. um can provide us with comments and and the goal is to 729 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:54,880 hopefully get it before October I think it's October 7th we put as the uh as the 730 00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:59,440 tenative date but if uh someone comes back and makes a good case to extend 731 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:04,240 that then I think the board might want to entertain extending that out but uh 732 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:11,839 this draft will allow us to get input from a wide variety of of uh uh 733 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:16,000 individuals and institutions and uh businesses and hopefully come up with a 734 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:19,000 stellar product at the end of the day. So, 735 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:32,880 » questions, comments? >> Yeah, I got this at 3:57 yesterday. 736 00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:37,520 I was at 5:00 this morning reviewing it. Um, 737 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:45,599 and now I guess I if this was something we were 738 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:50,240 sending out to uh developers or or whomever, 739 00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:55,680 I wouldn't I wouldn't accept it tonight or I wouldn't approve tonight. There's 740 00:59:52,720 --> 01:00:05,119 some dates that are not necessarily totally correct. Um there's a couple 741 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:11,359 questions I had on on the verbiage. Um the one thing that I, you know, 742 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:17,599 probably would like to potentially see changed is it says following the ranking 743 01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:22,960 process, the township will enter negotiations with the most qualified 744 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:27,280 firm. Um, that's our, 745 01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:32,319 you know, I would say that the that the township deems most 746 01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:38,160 qualified. I don't think I'm in a position to judge which is the most 747 01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:43,839 qualified firm. It may be the most qualified firm for us, 748 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:46,559 but you know, uh, >> John, can you speak to how that process 749 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:51,280 will unfold? >> Correct. Ultimately, 750 01:00:48,319 --> 01:00:55,359 I will be in charge of developing and putting together the team 751 01:00:53,599 --> 01:01:00,640 that does the evaluation and then ultimately the board is going to be the 752 01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:04,000 um approval authority on that. >> Yeah. So, 753 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:08,799 » and I've read all of that and the qualifications, etc. Mhm. 754 01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:14,480 » The only point I'm making is uh if you've got a twoperson 755 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:20,079 office or location and we say they're the most qualified versus a 20 person 756 01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:25,040 operation, I I think you might get a push back from 757 01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:31,760 somebody that says these people the credentials they have, etc. Um and and 758 01:01:28,319 --> 01:01:38,000 again, you know, I'm just saying that it we're making the decision who is most 759 01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:43,440 qualified and and the word is site somewhere in here. And I think vision 760 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:48,799 for the site. I think you mean township for the site. I don't know for sure. It 761 01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:54,240 just says a cohesive sustainable vision for the site. 762 01:01:50,880 --> 01:02:00,240 » So that is um part of why it has more flexible. though the site is whatever is 763 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:05,920 negotiated as part of the contract the the study boundaries will be negotiated 764 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,720 as part of the contract. So therefore then that becomes the site. 765 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:14,000 » Okay. >> And the ide the idea for this is 766 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:20,400 » is it a a land plan or a land use plan? >> It is a master plan. So 767 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:26,160 » well it says future land plans and I don't know whether that's I mean it may 768 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:31,119 very well be land plan. I don't know whether it's should be land use land. 769 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:35,760 » No the the land uses are proposed within the strategic plan. This is taking that 770 01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:40,880 strategic plan to the next step to put design services to it to create 771 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:47,119 streetscape uh renderings, bird's eye views, roadway connections, etc. 772 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:52,319 » Yeah. And can you tell us the dates that you found that were incorrect because we 773 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:55,599 can adjust those and and the and then at that point the resolution can say that 774 01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:59,839 we've got the authority to correct those prior to going out. So if you've got 775 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:04,799 those Bob we can we can do it right now. >> Again it's it's you know it's not a 776 01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:08,480 final version. So >> but it is going to be go it will go 777 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,079 public even though it's a draft. >> Understood. 778 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,760 » So that >> need to know. 779 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:15,039 » I'm trying to get clarity on the resolution. So, the resolution is for 780 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:20,400 approval of the draft request for qual RFQ, but then the cover of the RFQ says 781 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:25,200 due date for comments on the draft RFQ are due before Wednesday, October 7th. 782 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,559 » So, I'm just trying like are we approving the draft tonight? 783 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:33,680 » We're saying this is an important distinction. This is a good question. 784 01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:36,880 This RFQ is a draft RFQ. So, we're we're sending out this version and we're 785 01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:39,760 saying to the public, hey, make this a better 786 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:44,480 document. >> Okay? And then when we get those 787 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:48,160 comments back, we'll make we'll revise it. Then we will do a final RFQ. 788 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:52,319 » And that's why I'm >> okay. And then the final RFQ then will 789 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:56,319 be the one that goes out and then we will do the evaluation after that and 790 01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:58,799 then enter into discussions and negotiations with 791 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,319 » So we got time. >> Yep. 792 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:05,920 » Everybody has time. But but if there is an incorrect date, let me know because 793 01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:08,559 we can correct that right now because I I don't want to go on out to the public 794 01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:14,160 if we've got something that you know >> because the two dates I see in here are 795 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:19,680 questions by September 23rd, 2026 and then the due date is October 7th, 2026. 796 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:25,440 when the Delaware regional planning started the process with the steering 797 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:30,799 committee um was in 2019. Um 798 01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:39,200 uh 2020 20 it was uh submitted to the zoning commission September 2021 799 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:44,720 was approved. I mean just again they're close enough that and and and it's 800 01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:49,720 inconsequential whether it was six months one way or and I'm okay. 801 01:04:53,280 --> 01:05:02,160 » So can I make a mo I make a motion then? Um, I'm going to move to approve the 802 01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:07,839 presented draft request for qualifications 803 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:10,559 as presented by crossroads. >> And I'll second that. 804 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,440 » Moved and seconded. Roll call, please. Ashley. 805 01:05:12,319 --> 01:05:18,960 » I >> I 806 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:22,880 and John, you and Holly are going to execute that. 807 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:30,960 » Yes, we will execute something. >> Okay. Uh next topic of conversation is 808 01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:34,559 uh approving our strategic parks plan. This is a document that the parks 809 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:42,160 commission has been working on for several months. Um recently 810 01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:47,839 we had public comment on that. Thank you Kelsey. public comment on that at our 811 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:52,640 Harlem Township days and the parks commission voted on it in our last 812 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:57,760 meeting on Tuesday of this week for presentation to the trustees and I'll 813 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,119 I'll let you take it from there. Council, 814 01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:01,760 » I know you stole a little bit of my thunder there. I was going to give this 815 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:06,240 really nice overview, but you covered a lot of it, but I'll uh I'll fill in some 816 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:10,480 blanks. And I know that we have some uh parks commission members here as well, 817 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:15,440 so I'd invite them to chime in where they see necessary. But yeah, we started 818 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:21,440 this process at the beginning of this year um in the first quarter with a full 819 01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:28,079 survey which was very well participated in with nearly 350 survey results. And 820 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:33,920 from that we form the park commission as well as my team, my former colleague 821 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:39,839 Molly Ridge uh were able to come together and create uh three different 822 01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:45,440 major goals which were to be to have an 823 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:50,160 interconnected park system. uh to create rec recreational experiences that care 824 01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:53,359 for the whole person, which uh in a nutshell is to really diversify those 825 01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:56,400 experiences through the different parts to make sure that they're 826 01:06:54,160 --> 01:07:01,119 multi-generational to make sure that they're feeding all aspects of the whole 827 01:06:58,799 --> 01:07:07,119 person, be it the physical, emotional, spiritual, and intellectual. So that's 828 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:12,400 anywhere from your more nature walks that are much more passive um or your 829 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:16,720 more recre or your more recreational such as your pickle ball courts which 830 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:23,280 was brought up a few different times in the survey or tennis courts. Uh so with 831 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:26,400 a major thing being walking paths. So that really gives a nod to that 832 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:30,400 interconnected park system as well. And then the third one was for those 833 01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:34,079 collaborative partnerships and development. you know, we we are aware 834 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:38,240 that the we want to make sure that our dollars are stretched as far as they 835 01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:43,039 can. So, leaning into different regional networks and surrounding communities to 836 01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:48,079 create a level of that interconnected parks, maybe shared service agreements 837 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:53,599 or facility agreements um and so on and so forth. So of course this uh the big 838 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:59,280 part the big reason for this plan was to be that blueprint and overall strategy 839 01:07:55,839 --> 01:08:03,839 as we know um the market is showing that there that that the market demand in 840 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:08,640 this area is increasing for potential population. So how are we utilizing that 841 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:14,559 potential in increased population to ensure that we have enough inter a park 842 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:18,960 system that is township supported and how can we really make sure that that's 843 01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:24,159 implemented. So, this is really a guide for any opportunities with civic 844 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:30,239 organizations or maybe potential developers to help bring this vision to 845 01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:35,600 life. So, with that, um, I'm happy to open it up to any parks park commission 846 01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:39,359 members that are here. But I think it's important to note that kind of that next 847 01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:44,239 step, this is again a blueprint, a strategy. But there is a bit of 848 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:48,480 implementation that's still um that's going to be next and it's going to be 849 01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:52,000 back in the uh commission's hands to start with that implementation of 850 01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:58,000 working with that low that lowhanging fruit of what are the of evaluating 851 01:08:54,719 --> 01:09:02,080 surrounding area plans for connectivity with other communities or tapping in and 852 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:06,319 building relationships with those civic organizations and opportunities that 853 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:10,560 they have. So, uh, with the board support, Crossroads would love to be 854 01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:15,199 part of that implementation plan and helping with those and making sure that 855 01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:20,960 and giving more guidance to that parks commission for uh, potential planning 856 01:09:17,839 --> 01:09:24,239 and implementation of of this plan from here. So, with that, any questions from 857 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:26,799 the board? >> You know what I think of this plan? 858 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,080 » Yes, >> it's exceptional. 859 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:35,520 » Thank you so much. I have to give credit where credit's due. Park Commission has 860 01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:40,640 worked tirelessly for many months and my colleague Molly Ridge did a phenomenal 861 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:44,880 job on the on putting it all together as well and the design of the document is 862 01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:48,960 fabulous. So yeah, >> very well done. 863 01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:52,080 » Thank you very much. >> Any 864 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:56,000 putting you on the spot, but Sure. >> Do you happen or does anybody happen to 865 01:09:54,719 --> 01:10:01,040 remember >> how many respondents we had to the 866 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:04,960 survey? Yes, it was nearly 350. >> 347, I think. 867 01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:11,120 » Yeah. Yep. Nearly 350. I will for the Harlem Township day, we 868 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:15,600 did have we had a bit of a rain a rain out in the beginning, but we did get 869 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:20,880 several I'd say probably closer to 20 people to come through and we had really 870 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:24,960 excellent feedback and Ed Ed was there for another a good chunk of it as well 871 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:28,159 as Crossroads was there for a little more than half the time. But people were 872 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:34,960 really excited about the interconnectedness of the of the parks 873 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:39,280 especially to the main core of uh of the community park. 874 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:43,280 » Is that 350 is that respondents to the survey that created a lot of this data? 875 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:50,719 » Correct. That is so correct. >> Yes sir. 876 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:56,400 » So I I I love I like most people I have this inside statistician that loves to 877 01:10:53,280 --> 01:11:01,120 say this. Um, and there's lots of interesting things in there. 878 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:08,719 I'll I'll start with the the glass half empty that 7% of our population 879 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:14,960 responded to the survey. Seven. Um, that I I don't think is a result of 880 01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:20,800 any lack of effort on the part of Crossroads or the Parks Commission or 881 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:27,600 this board of talking about it. I I just um struggle with the the the dangers of 882 01:11:25,199 --> 01:11:32,320 apathy, you know what I mean? um and would love to see some kind of 883 01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:39,440 way of of figuring that out because this there's so much great data that we got 884 01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:47,520 from 7% of our population that we are going to put things in motion based on 885 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:53,760 » um because our job is to represent the population on how we move things 886 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:59,840 forward. So, if 93% of the population decide not to voice their opinion, 887 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:03,520 what happens if they don't get what they want? 888 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,400 » Mr. Chairman, may I just interject one thing, 889 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:10,960 » please? >> Um, I would encourage you to go back to 890 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:16,480 the strategic guide and the comprehensive plan, especially the 891 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:20,719 comprehensive plan in terms of the survey, right, 892 01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:23,600 » which corroborates Exactly. 893 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:28,719 » And so and and and that's a good point. You it's almost like we planned this 894 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:33,600 ahead of time because while it's 7% of the population, I believe it is 7% of 895 01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:38,640 the population that we're growing towards. I think this is 896 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:42,880 » a data set of how Harlem Township is evolving and where it's moving to. The 897 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:46,880 thing that's additionally interesting is earlier in the document, you know, 898 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:50,159 there's there's data from the National Recreation and Parks Association, right? 899 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:54,480 like this isn't based on our surveys. This is based on you know their 900 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:59,600 information. And while you know over the past 10 years our population has only 901 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:05,360 increased by about 700 give or take the median income has doubled. 902 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:09,280 » Um and so you know the township is changing. We need to just you know 903 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:14,640 continue to focus on how can we best serve that because if we don't mold and 904 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:18,400 guide how that evolution looks like the development's going to control it. We 905 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,600 don't. We want to control the development. 906 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:23,840 » Exactly. >> And so to me, like I I just have this 907 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:25,600 fear in the back of my mind of like some folks are going to see this and they're 908 01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:28,560 going to be like, "Oh, it's great. It's a parks plan. You know, that's great. 909 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:32,480 Awesome. Put some swing sets in pickle ball court out there." But this is a is 910 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,239 a microcasm of just all of the stuff that we've been talking about to me. 911 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:38,159 » Sure. >> It's it's such an important thing. The 912 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:43,280 one thing I got a kick out of too is the NRPA says that you should have 10.9 913 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:47,360 acres of parkland per thousand residents. Is that right? 914 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:53,280 It must be feels low, >> right? And so for our our 26 square 915 01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:56,800 miles, we should have 50 acres of public park. 916 01:13:54,320 --> 01:14:01,520 » How many parks you should have? >> Well, we have seven currently, 917 01:13:58,239 --> 01:14:03,199 » but we just we just got uh Bell's Park, which is almost 100, 918 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,080 » right? So, >> which I must say we're ahead of 919 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,480 » bigger. Yeah, we love it. >> Bigger. 920 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:12,239 » We can still we we need more parks though, you know. That's That was a good 921 01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:16,800 That was an amazing welltime win, wasn't it? I love that. Well, and I also really 922 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:19,840 appreciate the the emphasis on the diversity of the types of parks and 923 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:25,199 making sure that it's as walkable for everybody as possible. So, I completely 924 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:29,679 hear you in in that. But even if maybe a small percentage of the population was 925 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:35,440 represented, it seems as though it was very it was really capitalized on we 926 01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:39,679 want parks for people of all abilities and all ages that can interact with all 927 01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:44,000 of these different parks, which I think is really great. And I echo Bob's 928 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:47,600 sentiment like your team and the parks commission did a great job on it. I love 929 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,760 datadriven decisions and there's definitely plenty of that here. So, 930 01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:52,080 thank you for all the work that went into that. 931 01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:56,400 » Excellent. And thanks thanks to the community and again the parks commission 932 01:14:53,760 --> 01:15:02,000 did such fabulous work. So, see that. So, in in light of this fine work, uh I 933 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:09,600 would like to move a resolution um 010 to approve the parks commission 934 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:13,360 strategic plan uh as presented uh by the parks commission and crossroads. We'll 935 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,080 second that. >> Moved and seconded. Roll call, please. 936 01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:20,080 Ashley. >> I 937 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:26,640 thank you guys. >> Thanks, Kelsey. So, in light of this, 938 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:33,840 uh, and she gave a great segue to Dan, uh, the parks commission is very focused 939 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:39,440 on the strategic plan, not just being, uh, some altruistic ideal, but something 940 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:44,159 that we are committed to as a body of putting feet to the fire. In other 941 01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:48,400 words, listening to what the township residents are saying and saying, "Hey, 942 01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:54,960 we want to implement. We want to execute this plan." And so in light of that, um, 943 01:15:52,880 --> 01:16:00,320 uh, Dan Tley is going to come up and talk about a grant application that the 944 01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:06,000 parks commission is asking the trustees to approve today. 945 01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:10,320 » Great. Good evening, Dan Tsley, member parks commission. Um, Adam, I'm I'm here 946 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:16,400 to talk about the pickleball court. >> Talk to me, Dan. 947 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:20,400 » It's a great setup. So, um, like Trustee Trainer had mentioned, you know, Kelsey 948 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:25,679 talked about the parks plan. It was a lot of work. It was a lot of effort. Um, 949 01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:29,679 and it's a lot of conceptual work. And a lot of time residents don't necessarily 950 01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:33,840 see or appreciate all that concept. What they appreciate is what you're going to 951 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:38,320 do, how you're going to execute, when are you going to do something. So, um, 952 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:43,679 with that, after completing the parks plan, the parks commission quickly 953 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:48,960 started looking for quick wins. um that aligned with the residents feedback, not 954 01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:54,800 just the the survey, but walked the parks, Harlem days, solicited friends. 955 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:58,800 Sue actually she had to leave, you know, as a neighbor, right? So, she didn't get 956 01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:02,800 a chance to to stick stick around, but uh we solicited a lot of feedback about 957 01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:10,080 what additionally people would want to see. Um we solicited the parks plan and 958 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:14,159 uh and we also took into consideration um to responsibly conserve public funds. 959 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,880 Right? So we don't didn't want to come up with a grandiose idea that was going 960 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:21,920 to cost so much that nothing was going to happen. Preservation parks community 961 01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:26,400 park and uh trail and grant program was identified as a funding source for 962 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:32,400 $50,000 with grant applicants due on October 1st. So it lined up with this 963 01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:36,159 quick win concept. $50,000 available. We want to move uh with with with respect 964 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,600 to the parks. The park commission debated several options that fell within 965 01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:43,600 the scope of the grant guidelines, including 966 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:48,960 additional trails. It's number one, right? Um additional trail. I didn't 967 01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:55,199 know this. For $50,000, you can put in 100 yards of trail, right? That's not 968 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:59,360 much of a trail system or much of an ads. I I didn't want to put, you know, 969 01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:04,880 my name on top of the hundred yards of of of trail. Um, we talked vigorously 970 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:09,679 about a baseball field, our bathroom improvements, park drainage 971 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:13,360 improvements, and a pickle ball court. The parks commission ultimately decided 972 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:18,560 to pursue the pickle ball court as the best evaluated option with the highest 973 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:21,920 overall community benefit. Um, not just benefit for the older residents, but 974 01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:25,360 benefit for the newer residents and an opportunity to bring the two together. 975 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:30,080 If you don't look at our community, you look at uh places like Dw Albany, places 976 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:34,000 like Westerville, what you will find around Pickable are grandparents playing 977 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,679 with their grandchildren, fathers playing with their sons and daughters. 978 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:41,840 So, you see, it's a multi-generational opportunity to get people into the park. 979 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:46,560 The other thing that the uh commission recognized was it was an opportunity to 980 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:50,239 bring new people into the park. The walkers already walk the park. Maybe we 981 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:55,040 can bring a few more. This is a whole segment that is leaving our community to 982 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:58,480 play somewhere else and to socialize somewhere else. So, it's an opportunity 983 01:18:56,719 --> 01:19:02,000 to bring a new segment of people to our parks who who currently don't get there 984 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:07,679 and get to exactly Adam what you were talking about, new people into the into 985 01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:12,239 the park. Um, the provided proposal represents our grant uh proposal which 986 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:15,280 we seek approval for and to submit to preservation parks for their 987 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:19,360 consideration. Your the required resolution is on page nine. We've had 988 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:22,880 this for for a week provided it. so you could have some uh time to to read it 989 01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:27,840 and it represents kind of the work that we put in and we hope is appreciated by 990 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:31,520 preservation parks. The cost outlined in the report uh that 991 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:35,440 are aligned to the township include inkind goods and services. Our 992 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:38,960 investment, our main investment is inind services. We're looking for our 993 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:43,440 community members to provide, like they always have in the past, to provide 994 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:46,960 landscaping, to provide help, to do some of the work. And that will show 995 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:51,040 preservation parks that this isn't a one-sided $50,000 for us. This is a 996 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:55,520 dual-sided. We're going to do some of the work, and this is going to be, you 997 01:19:52,640 --> 01:20:00,719 know, a cooperative effort. The outline vendor cost estimates at this point, um, 998 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:05,360 our estimates at this point, and our objective will be to minimize any 2027 999 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:09,360 financial impact to the township. So we solicited a full bid, but that bid is 1000 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:13,360 not negotiated and we'd expect that price to come down a little bit. The 1001 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:18,000 trustees can also consider expanding the project. So right now the project is set 1002 01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:22,880 at one one court, but at the trustes discretion, we could expand to multiple 1003 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:28,480 courts at an approximate 20% reduction in cost per court over a single court or 1004 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:32,480 approximately $60,000 for one court. But if you move to two, three, or four, and 1005 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:36,159 it's a little bit skewed, but to give you an idea, you go to about $48,000 a 1006 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:41,920 court, right? So, you got to pick up about 20% as you if you go a little bit 1007 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:46,640 further. The grant is fixed at 50,000. So, the township would have to pick that 1008 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:50,480 portion up. Um, you have been provided previously a copy of the res uh copy of 1009 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:55,679 the resolution and the grant proposal. I'd be open to any questions you may 1010 01:20:51,920 --> 01:21:01,040 have at this time or anyone. Yeah. Do you can put the picture 18 1011 01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:06,880 Oh, just anytime. No, you're not jumping ahead. Um, for the the people, I don't 1012 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:11,679 know if you can zoom in, but you know where we're proposing putting this is on 1013 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:15,600 the back side of the front parking lot. So, basically, we're taking gravel and 1014 01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:20,960 turning it into park space. So, there is a shed um and there is a gravel parking 1015 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:24,320 lot on the back. So, as you can see, what will what you against the 1016 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:28,800 basketball court, you'll have the pickle ball court. You'll have landscaping 1017 01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:33,840 around. It'll serve as a sound barrier so that people will not be impacted by 1018 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:38,400 the sound. You'll have an ADA compliant walkway. So the park the parking lot 1019 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:41,920 which today you cannot access from an accessibility and disability 1020 01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:45,280 perspective. You can will now be able to pull in people with disabilities can 1021 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:49,440 access the pickle ball court or they could access the trail system because 1022 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:54,960 we're we not putting in 100 yards. We can put in 50 feet of that trail system 1023 01:21:51,679 --> 01:22:01,120 almost as a as an aside. So 50 feet of trail. um the uh trees and and uh and 1024 01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:04,480 plantings and then the pickle ball court with some some benches is what we're 1025 01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:07,520 what we're talking about. >> Can you help us understand a little bit 1026 01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:14,159 about the timeline? >> Yeah. So, um we this grant is due at the 1027 01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:20,480 end of this month. Um there's they have a one-mon review cycle. So, we would 1028 01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:27,679 know in the Novemberish uh time frame as to whether we got it. 1029 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:31,440 Um uh if we if we were successful um depending upon how many and whether we 1030 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:35,040 want to take it to bid if we go with four that's a significant project that 1031 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:39,600 will go over your your bid limit and you'll have to do right if you do two 1032 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:43,520 it'll be two you'll be over one you'll be under so a little bit depends 1033 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:48,719 procedurally on what you decide um let's let's talk about one if it's one and we 1034 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:52,159 decide that the cost is reasonable there basically are only two firms in Columbus 1035 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:56,560 that do that put him in for New Albany, 1036 01:22:54,239 --> 01:23:02,560 Westerville, you know, all of the clubs. And and Shybert, which is the one we we 1037 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:06,400 uh we picked, um is uh you know, is one of those two. Um but a bid process, if 1038 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:11,440 we did it, would have to happen in the December time frame. We'd award that 1039 01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:17,760 business. Um we would look to have the um uh court completed by June or July of 1040 01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:20,960 next year. Um and then have our funds reimbursed back to us. This is a 1041 01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:25,199 reimbursement grant. So, we upfront the funds, then we submit for reimbursement 1042 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:29,920 back. Um, so we get that reimbursement roughly in September. But as far as a 1043 01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:33,600 timeline, pickle ball, July 4th sounds great to me. 1044 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:40,159 » Chris and the pickle. >> Chris and the pickle ball. Pickle ball 1045 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:44,960 court. Um, and and the other point is this is just the beginning, right? This 1046 01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:47,840 is just one grant. There are lots of grants like this. There are tons of 1047 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:53,600 opportunity and what it requires is somebody to actually put a proposal 1048 01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:58,639 together and to deliver it and collect the money and then execute. So now as 1049 01:23:56,719 --> 01:24:02,960 part of the parks plan, we have to execute, right? We've got to start to 1050 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:06,520 win these grants and we have to start to improve our parks. 1051 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:14,480 » And I' I'd like to point out that Dan is the one who executed this grant. 1052 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:17,120 We deeply appreciate the work that's involved. 1053 01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:19,920 » For sure. >> Thank you, Dan, very much. 1054 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:24,239 » Great job. >> Other questions? 1055 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:28,560 » I mean, yeah, kudos, Dan. Another really great preparation of a proposal here and 1056 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:33,199 the grant that's being delivered. I mean, very impressive. I appreciate the 1057 01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:41,520 hard work and time that you put into it. my I mean if we're going to to me one of 1058 01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:47,760 you got fencing you've got the cost of bringing in the asphalt doing all the 1059 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:54,080 work around I would prefer the township invest more money 1060 01:24:50,080 --> 01:25:00,000 and do two or three you would at at seven it's like $79,000 1061 01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:05,679 you have to bid and and technically you're supposed to have three bids But 1062 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:10,800 uh and and you only you did show only one firm and and I didn't know whether 1063 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,440 that's because we wanted to do business 1064 01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:19,280 particularly. >> No, love to address this. Um so um the 1065 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:24,800 fact is is this has all been turned around in two and a half weeks, right? 1066 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:30,400 All of it written from like we've got to get a grant to to this this meeting, 1067 01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:35,280 right? And there was one, you know, I had to pull some personal strings to 1068 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:40,880 have the one firm come up here, do this, they came up, did a site survey, 1069 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:45,440 measured it out, um, and bid it. So, you know, it was just a matter of 1070 01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:49,040 convenience and who could do the bid. A bid is required for the grant, right? 1071 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:52,480 It's not required that we do business with them. It's just to basically say 1072 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:56,000 that what, you know, we've done our due diligence with respect to what this is 1073 01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:59,920 going to cost. Um, >> and and we're very fortunate in this 1074 01:25:57,679 --> 01:26:04,880 township to have Dan because if you need to know a guy, this guy, he knows a guy. 1075 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:07,520 If you need anything, you just ask, "Yeah, I know a guy that can." And 1076 01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:12,719 that's that's what happened here. So, it's it it is just a number to be able 1077 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:16,560 to give to the parks commission to say this is, you know, an example of what it 1078 01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:20,480 would cost. But yeah, when if we go out for a larger thing, it's going to be 1079 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:23,600 budgeted. You know, with Lisa, we're going to talk and during our budgeting 1080 01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:28,880 process and that'll give us some flexibility to decide whether we go if 1081 01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:33,360 we do if we're successful. And even if we're not successful, there's still the 1082 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:37,120 possibility with you all support that we could potentially do one or two courts 1083 01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:40,320 without it depending on what the funding is. So, we can always look at it that 1084 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:44,000 way. So, just because we don't get the grant doesn't mean this thing's over. I 1085 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,560 think the benefit of the position we're in at the moment is you don't have to 1086 01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:49,040 make that decision today. >> Correct. 1087 01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:52,560 » Right. All you have to do is make the decision that we have we authorize the 1088 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:56,400 submission of this grant. >> Right. Which says we're going to follow 1089 01:26:53,840 --> 01:27:02,000 through on at least one. You have another meeting, maybe twoish, 1090 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:08,560 to flush out whether or not you want to upsize this. Um the sooner the better, 1091 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:14,159 but you've got time. If we do nothing, then um we don't we don't do this. And 1092 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:19,679 and let me let me also add a member of our commissions is of our of our parks 1093 01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:21,199 commission is a preservation parks member. 1094 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:27,520 » Amen. >> Right. So um so you know we are 1095 01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:33,199 fortunate to have these relationships that are built um that can help us and 1096 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:36,199 our case when these are all being considered. 1097 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,600 » Further question or comment? Ready for the motion? 1098 01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:44,880 » Ready for a motion. >> Uh, so I would move to approve the 1099 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:50,639 submission of the parks commission grant application to Preservation Parks and to 1100 01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:55,360 authorize Jason to execute and sign the related necessary documents on behalf of 1101 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:58,320 the Harlem Township trustees. >> Second move and second a roll call, 1102 01:27:57,199 --> 01:28:01,520 please. Ashley. >> Hi. 1103 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:04,719 » I thank you very much. >> Thank you. 1104 01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:09,199 » Great job, Dan. Thank you. Um, I have a couple more bullet points 1105 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:17,600 and I but I'm going to skip a couple things here. One, um, just to let you 1106 01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:21,840 know, Lisa, that John H knows we have a budget process that's got to unfold in 1107 01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:26,000 October. We've talked about this and we're going to work on that. Okay. And 1108 01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:28,800 » it will be next year's budget, >> 2027 budget. 1109 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,920 » Yeah, it's we were talking Yeah, we've been talking about the the courts and 1110 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:36,239 that we were going to work it out. So yeah, it's not. Yeah, we have 1111 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:40,960 » I just want you >> Yes. I just want you to be aware that 1112 01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:46,480 those gears are turning. Okay. >> Secondly, uh we have talked about 1113 01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:51,760 restroom facilities in the past and I just want everyone to know that the 1114 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:56,000 maintenance department and John are working on some courses of action that 1115 01:28:54,480 --> 01:29:03,040 they're going to propose so that we get a solution and we can move forward to 1116 01:29:00,239 --> 01:29:07,120 meet this need. It's um it is a need that must be met. And then Jason, I 1117 01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:12,960 wondered if you wanted to talk about cold water and H2O mitigation and the 1118 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:18,960 dish petition and all that good stuff and then I'm done. 1119 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:23,840 » Good evening. Um last response with cold water as you guys know here suggest is 1120 01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:27,679 doing some internal investigations on the parking lot and some open drainage 1121 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:33,199 and things of that nature which I did get a chance to camera the drains of the 1122 01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:37,440 parking lot. They are open. They all do come from this far north end across the 1123 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:42,239 way. In our investigation, we found a catch basin holding tank something over 1124 01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:46,159 here outside of the firehouse parking lot that really doesn't make sense to 1125 01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:49,760 us. Long story short, there's a 12-in pipe that comes in and there's a 10-in 1126 01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:53,760 pipe that comes out 8 in above that pipe. So, that basically means that 1127 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:58,480 vault has to fill and then backflow into the parking lot to drain off. 1128 01:29:56,639 --> 01:30:03,120 We have not got any resolve on why that was put in that way yet, but I've been 1129 01:30:00,239 --> 01:30:06,080 in talks with John here about what we can possibly do to look forward and move 1130 01:30:04,639 --> 01:30:10,159 forward on that route. And we've also talked about the ditch petition process, 1131 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:15,120 which he listed that we are going to move forward with and get that process 1132 01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:20,159 started. That being that if if we can come up with mitigation 1133 01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:23,199 just west here of the park, then we might take Realm on that one. But I know 1134 01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:28,480 he's been working on that stamp, so I don't want to speak in his place. and 1135 01:30:26,639 --> 01:30:33,360 just trying to go through the processes of what Cold Water had recommended that 1136 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:38,239 we kind of do ahead of time before we make a real large commitment. But I will 1137 01:30:35,679 --> 01:30:41,920 also comment that Bill and I did some other investigations here at the parking 1138 01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:45,600 lot and this parking lot fills with water. 1139 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:49,679 80% of that water is coming off the surface of this field and it comes right 1140 01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:55,040 over the edge into the catch basin that feeds the parking lot drainage. 1141 01:30:52,400 --> 01:31:00,320 So, we are going to plan on separating that off-site catch basin from the 1142 01:30:58,159 --> 01:31:04,480 parking lot itself to see if it will slow water from getting to the parking 1143 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:11,120 lot and then put up some kind of physical barrier around that catch base 1144 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:13,920 up on this north end to try to not overfill the drainage of the parking 1145 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,320 lot. >> Have you consulted with Cold Water on 1146 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,480 any of that? >> We've we have spoke briefly and they 1147 01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:24,639 they agree that that's that's kind of a first step. Now, it won't be a whole 1148 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:29,520 large earth dam, which I think is the ultimate goal, but if we can just 1149 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:34,880 alleviate some of the water coming into the lot drainage system, then kind of 1150 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:38,320 see what happens. But ultimately, ultimately the system of the parking 1151 01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:43,120 lot's just being overrun by all the surface water surface water off of all 1152 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:46,239 this field to the north. And then what we discovered down here next to the 1153 01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:51,600 road, which you know, we'll have to have conversation with ODOT and and try to 1154 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:55,360 alleviate some of why why and how that was put in because there's nothing 1155 01:31:52,800 --> 01:32:00,880 really on plan other than vault was installed, but I don't know who 1156 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:04,960 installed it, but it's still still in the process. And then as I mentioned, 1157 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:09,199 John and I have been in discussion about mitigation downstream of the the 1158 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:12,520 driveways and and looking to do some resolve there. 1159 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:19,600 if you have anything else to offer. >> Yeah, I can or follow up on that means. 1160 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:24,480 » Yeah, one one thing that uh and I think Adam and I we had Trusty Holiday and I 1161 01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:29,520 talked about was that we were kind of on the same wavelength uh and we we 1162 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:36,080 contacted uh legal counsel because some of the water that's occurring here. the 1163 01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:41,040 the the position I have is that if we do potential um work on private property, 1164 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:45,760 if we get the permission of private property owners to do some of this work 1165 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:52,080 based on what our engineers have said that it's not a drainage issue, it's a 1166 01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:57,920 protection of public property and if based on what Cold Water said with a 1167 01:32:53,920 --> 01:33:02,639 what a 10 or 25 year rain that this building itself could be inundated 1168 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:08,960 inundated by water which means at that point Chief O'Brien and his folks can't 1169 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:14,400 do their job. Um, you know, let alone us and and I don't know what the um what 1170 01:33:11,679 --> 01:33:18,480 what that would cause in terms of uh uh run and response time where they would 1171 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:23,120 have to go, the damage that it would cause to this building. And so, if 1172 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:28,080 there's a possibility to mitigate some of this by working with some of the 1173 01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:31,520 private property owners, um that is that is one of the the steps that we're 1174 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:36,639 tracking. So, we're dual tracking this with the ditch petition and the private 1175 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:40,880 property owners. And if we get uh thumbs up from legal counsel that says that 1176 01:33:38,639 --> 01:33:45,920 that we can do it because we are doing it to protect and preserve public 1177 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:50,639 property, then then we will. So, with your with your consent. So, 1178 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:55,199 » um can I ask so I I see two lines of effort. Yes. The ditch petition and 1179 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:58,639 » immediate mitigation. >> Yes. 1180 01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:04,639 uh Cold Water presented a more strategic plan and uh that was more area 1181 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,400 mitigation over the long haul that required a study. 1182 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:11,360 » Yes. >> And they asked for an investment on that 1183 01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:17,520 study up front. Is it your intention to work into the 27 budget the cost of that 1184 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:21,120 and get us going on that study or No, >> that's that is your your call as a 1185 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:26,960 board. If if you want to work towards that, then I I would agree. I obviously 1186 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:33,520 I would execute. So >> well um so I'm interested in your uh are 1187 01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:40,320 are you taking ownership of that conceptually or is that as as a team do 1188 01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:44,159 you think that's a good line of effort? >> I I personally think as a team we're 1189 01:34:42,159 --> 01:34:49,840 looking for the quickest resolve >> to create results and if some of those 1190 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:53,760 results directly change what has happened in the past, 1191 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:55,920 » right? Then then we we we kind of change. 1192 01:34:54,320 --> 01:35:01,360 » I don't think that you can I don't think you can not not I don't think you cannot 1193 01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:04,800 do your two two initial lines of effort. Correct. You have to do the petition. 1194 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:07,360 You have to do the immediation. >> Correct. 1195 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:11,760 » How committed are you to the third one? The broader strategic plan. 1196 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:14,960 » I say we're committed on for future developing this whole area. 1197 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:20,880 » Yeah. We we have to be because this building at some point we've we have to 1198 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:23,840 look at that from a I think from my perspective as a total facilities 1199 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:27,040 perspective. >> Yes, 1200 01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:32,080 » that's at some point. Yes, that >> I would love to see this board make uh 1201 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:37,040 good long-term decisions even if they're hard ones for this for this area. Y 1202 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:39,760 » and so if you John could think about that budget-wise for 27 1203 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:44,480 » Y >> because I think they wanted what $25,000 1204 01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:46,800 » but then the beauty of that is they're willing to help us write grants. 1205 01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:50,560 » Yes. >> Which I just I would hate to see us pass 1206 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:55,199 up that opportunity. >> And I believe that number was before we 1207 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:59,760 had offered to do any of our exploration in house was hammering the looking the 1208 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,239 maybe helping them do so samples stuff like that. So I believe that number will 1209 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:07,600 come down. >> Yeah. And I think the grants were over 1210 01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:12,760 300 grand. They were significant grants. >> Sorry. 1211 01:36:08,719 --> 01:36:12,760 » Now the whole the whole 1212 01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:21,120 remediation was 350,000 and they were looking at potentially 1213 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:24,400 300,000 potentially >> and that was the largest possible 1214 01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:28,400 project that could be added >> and they share 1215 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:32,239 full >> full everything. I would just want us to 1216 01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:36,880 really keep our focus on that while we're doing the other two. That's 1217 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:40,120 » agreed. Okay. For sure. 1218 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:49,280 » Anything further, John Trainer? >> All right, Bob. No, again as long I mean 1219 01:36:46,639 --> 01:36:56,080 along the same lines, uh Brett was at the uh commissioner's meeting last week 1220 01:36:53,199 --> 01:37:01,360 and he thinks that there's a good possibility some of 1221 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:05,760 this will be relieved through the you know ditch petition. 1222 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:10,000 » Um but until some >> until that happens Yeah. 1223 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:16,000 » initial, you know, assessments done, they won't. And Jeff, Jeff, you know 1224 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:20,760 that Cold Waters in in Galina, so we're we're we're keeping your residents 1225 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,760 employed. 1226 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:26,239 » They they've been great to work with, by the way. Great people. 1227 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:32,880 » Yeah. >> Bobby, you had one agenda item. 1228 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:37,040 » The only agenda item I had um the sheriff's department has gotten 1229 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:42,080 permission and contacted. They had to get approval 1230 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:48,000 from the county commissioners uh to to spend money for an outside law 1231 01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:55,040 firm and they have contacted that law firm and are in discussion. John 1232 01:37:51,119 --> 01:38:03,159 Scoutton who is the chief of staff will be contacting if he hasn't already you 1233 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:03,159 to discuss that as far as 1234 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:14,880 » Okay. Um, any other regular agenda items for 1235 01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:20,080 the board about township staff? Any anything else? 1236 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:26,159 » Ashley. >> No, what I'm thinking is I did reach out 1237 01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:31,280 to Delaware Foundation and I'm and I'm waiting for a response, which is not 1238 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:36,760 atypical to get that thing closed. Okay. >> Yeah. I'll let you know when I 1239 01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:47,760 » just don't pay their next bill. >> Well, they automatically do. 1240 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:50,000 » I'm only kidding. Only kidding. >> What you got? 1241 01:38:48,239 --> 01:38:54,639 » Yep. Uh we don't have anything else other than uh there is uh the resolution 1242 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:57,440 for executive session. So, I'm requesting that we have an executive 1243 01:38:56,639 --> 01:39:00,880 session. Yes. >> And very short. Very short. 1244 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,880 » I have that. And did you wanted Lisa to attend that one as well? 1245 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:06,800 » Yes. Yes, sir. >> So, before we motion that, I'll open the 1246 01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:12,119 public comment floor one more time. Yes, ma'am. Will you please come up to the 1247 01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:12,119 mic, state your name and address? 1248 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:25,920 » Good evening. My name is Emma Marilles Jones. My address is 175 South Sanduski 1249 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:31,679 Street, uh number 375 in Delaware. And I am here today to uh someone mentioned 1250 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:38,159 the apathy of the community. I am here to share with you that I am running for 1251 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:44,639 the Delaware Common Please Court judge position that recently came up. It is a 1252 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:50,239 special election that very few people know about. So, I am here to share that 1253 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:57,199 information with all of you. Um, my background is uh this will be on the 1254 01:39:52,960 --> 01:40:01,520 November ballot. My background is in um I'm a public defender right now. So I've 1255 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:09,280 actually practiced in front of the judge who was asked to resign and uh which 1256 01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:14,639 created this opening. So um my you know I've been practicing for 16 years. I 1257 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:19,840 worked in um as a guardian at lightam representing abused neglected children. 1258 01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:25,520 I represent the parents in those cases. I also represent um criminal defendants 1259 01:40:22,639 --> 01:40:30,639 and juvenile delinquents. So, I have that background for the criminal law 1260 01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:35,920 side, but I'm also um prior to going to law school, I worked in human resources, 1261 01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:40,560 banking, and uh worked for several um real estate developers. And what I would 1262 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:46,719 assume it's of a particular interest to this board is that I have worked I have 1263 01:40:43,679 --> 01:40:52,560 done a little zoning. I have um done a little farm law and I have also done a 1264 01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:58,080 little oil and gas. So I believe that a growing township like as I know Harlem 1265 01:40:55,679 --> 01:41:03,280 to be dealing with all these different um issues between the real estate and 1266 01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:08,560 the population growth um those things may be of interest that I have that 1267 01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:12,400 background. So I just um again I went to law school at Case Western Reserve 1268 01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:18,880 School of Law but I also have an MBA in finance and uh which also helps for the 1269 01:41:16,480 --> 01:41:23,520 civil side and uh I went to Brown University for my undergrad. So I just 1270 01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:28,239 wanted to introduce myself again. My name is Emma Mirrorless Jones and I will 1271 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:31,040 be on the ballot in November. Thank you. >> Thank you Emma. 1272 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:36,560 » Thank you. >> Any further public comment? 1273 01:41:34,719 --> 01:41:42,159 All right. With that, I'll accept a motion for executive session for whoever 1274 01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:45,679 wants to make it. >> I don't make 1275 01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:51,840 » go for it. I move to go into executive session at 8:12 p.m. to consider the 1276 01:41:50,239 --> 01:41:55,679 appointment, employment, dismissal, discipline, promotion, demotion, or 1277 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:59,920 compensation of a public employee or official or the investigation of charges 1278 01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:04,960 or complaints against the public employee, official, lency, or regulated 1279 01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:10,000 individual unless the employee official, lency, or regulated individual requests 1280 01:42:07,679 --> 01:42:15,920 a public hearing by division G1 of section 121.22 22 of the OC 1281 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:19,760 second. >> Adding invitees Lisa Hersy and John 1282 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,719 Pritchard into the meeting. >> Indeed. 1283 01:42:21,199 --> 01:42:30,679 » Motion and second. Roll call, please. Ashley. I I 1284 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:30,679 carries. We're in executive s.