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same president.

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» Okay, I have 10 o'clock. I will call the
Harrison County Commission meeting to

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order for August 5th, 2026.
If you will rise and join me in the

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Lord's Prayer and we'll have the pledge.
Please.

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» Our Father, who art in heaven, be thy
name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done

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on earth as it is in heaven.
>> Give us this day our daily bread,

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» and forgive us our trespasses as we
forgive those who trespass against us,

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and lead us not into temptation, but
deliver us from evil. For thine is the

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kingdom, the power, and the glory
forever. Amen.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Okay.
Number one, public comment. Laura, do

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you want to
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you've signed up. If you choose to talk,
everyone has three minutes. You can now

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give your three minutes to somebody
else. I believe everyone has signed up.

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They would like to talk.
And I hope I can read everybody's

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handwriting or I pronounce your name
correctly. If I don't, it's no

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disrespect. Okay. And please, first we
have Virgil McNe.

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First, I want to thank the commission
for the opportunity to speak today, and

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I sincerely hope you'll take my comments
to heart. I'm speaking about the

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proposed Valley Link North transmission
lines and the community opposition to

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such. The proposed power line project
running from Putham County to Frederick,

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Maryland provides no benefit no benefit
to the citizens of Harrison County in

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particular or West Virginia in general.
It is obvious to anyone that has done

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even basic research that this is solely
for the benefit of data centers in

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Northern Virginia and Maryland.
The same minimal amount of research will

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reveal that the citizens of those states
don't want this either.

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Is with great interest that I read the
article in Tuesday's newspaper that

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interviewed two of our commissioners
regarding the matter at hand and that

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being the resolution opposing this
project in Harrison County. It was noted

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that the commission had not been
approached by the parties involved or

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given any details of the project or its
impact on Harrison County. That alone

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should indicate Valink's lack of concern
for our citizens concerns, among them

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health, property rights, and quality of
life.

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The article referred to the community
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School, but did little to report on the
level of opposition to this proposal. I

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personally witnessed the two two people
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who claimed to be seeking more
information before reaching a decision

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that's hardly a representative
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I can state without hesitation that at
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were strongly opposed and I truly feel
that's a conservative number. Without a

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doubt, the historic weather that evening
had quite a dampening effect on the

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turnout. Given favorable conditions, the
participation would have been

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significantly higher.
Every sole I witnessed voicing their

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concerns and opinions was adamantly
opposed. The subject matter experts hood

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up to represent the project were
woefully unprepared for any serious

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questions or concerns, putting on full
display the orchestrated charade we were

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being asked to participate in.
Quoting Commissioner Hinkle, we

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represent the whole county, not just two
or three people or businesses. Very

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true. There are a whole lot more than
two or three people's interest in

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represented here today. This is just the
tip of the iceberg as it were. the

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interest of several hundred citizens,
many who have jobs and are unable to

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attend this meeting are represented
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To say that the practical effect of any
resolution would be limited is to

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concede defeat before beginning the
conflict. The best way to ensure defeat

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is to do nothing. I respectfully implore
the commissioners to live up to the

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concept of representative government and
adopt a resolution similar to your peers

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in upure, Lewis, Barber, etc. counties
opposing this misguided project. Thank

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» Steve Golf.

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I would like to ask the county
commission to oppose the Valley Link

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transmission line for the following
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Its only purpose is to provide
electricity for data centers in Maryland

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and Virginia. We get none of it. But
construction costs will be paid for by

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increases in West Virginia electric
rates. Your electric bill, again, West

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Virginia resources are taken from us. We
pay for it, we get nothing.

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The footprint of this line will cut
through multi-generational

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family farms, orchards, degrading
everything that is beautiful, valuable,

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and unique about West Virginia. The
transmission line would threaten scenic

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historic battlefields and recreational
areas harming our tourism revenue.

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The construction
will cause vibrations from drilling,

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blasting, hammering required to anchor
tower foundations up to 30 ft deep. This

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may damage water wells. Roughly 5,455
acres of pristine forest, wildlife

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habitats, and agricultural lands will be
impacted, disrupting delicate water

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cycles, altering drainage patterns, and
fragmenting crucial wetlands.

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The heavy use of herbicides and rideways
risk toxic runoff into local water

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tables, orchards, wildlife, and our
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The loss of money due to lower property
values is forever.

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Historical real estate data pub
published by organizations like the Wall

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Street Journal show that a power grid
expansion typically causes a 45% drop in

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raw land value,
lowering our quality of life. This means

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lower taxes for schools, county,
and we know the schools have been

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closing because we don't have enough
money the way it is. The high voltage

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lines have an almost fivefold increase
in the risk of chronic lymphatic

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leukemia and long-term exposure of
adults living within 1,640

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ft of a 110 to a 400 kilovolt
transmission line. Valley North is

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almost double that.
So, I ask that the county commission

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pass a resolution
opposing the valley link transmission

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line, send it to the public service
commission, and help protect the

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citizens of Harrison County so that we
don't lose our livelihoods, our farms

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that have been the families forever.
Thank you,

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Hello, I'm George Shon. I've lived in
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hopefully you will write PSC and a
letter of opposition, which I have a

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list of counties that have already done
that. Harrison County seems to be about

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the only one that hasn't. Um 20 counties
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out of the 55. Um, it's
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I'm just winging this as you can tell,
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no, I'm not even reading anything. I'm
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it's this is going to ruin it people's
lives. I've lived in Harrison County my

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whole life. I've been where I'm at now
on my farm for 41 years. The line's

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coming right through my property.
proposed right over top of a Marcelus

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well.
Coming from these lines is a thing

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called an induced voltage. That means
electricity is spread through the air.

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If there's a gas leak on this pad that's
on my property, who knows what could

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happen. I don't know if anybody's ever
studied that, but I don't think it'd be

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very good. So, safety issue there.
Another thing, too, is most my wealth is

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my is my property. It's my the
inheritance for my children. It's being

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going to be stolen from me. That's how I
feel. Um you know hopefully the biggest

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thing too, one of the biggest things
supposed to be benefit the public. This

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is not benefiting the public at all.
It's only benefiting

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the data centers in Virginia and
Maryland. benefited Google, Facebook,

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and you know who Open AI, the list goes
on. You know who they are,

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which I'm not real fond of those people
to begin with. I don't even like AI. I

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don't even use AI. Never will. Uh my
opinion of it's the ruination of man.

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And these lines are the ruination of
West Virginia. It's going to ruin our

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tourism.
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» okay.
>> It's just going to ruin thousands of

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people's lives. They're going to ruin
their value, property values are going

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to be ruined. Uh, it's ruining lives.
It's already ruined my life.

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I feel like my life's already been
ruined by this. And uh,

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I'm just not going to stand by and take
it. So, if anybody in here's from

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Valley, New York, I'm not going to stand
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All I have to say, I just hope that you
will go to the PSC

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and
voice your opposition to them because it

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doesn't benefit the public and that's
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public and they're not doing it.
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» Good morning. Um, I'm a lifetime
resident of Harrison County and I went

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to this meeting about this this electric
stuff and I was really just I I couldn't

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believe the they're supposed to be
experts and everything. So, you know,

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I've had heart problems, I've had a
stroke and everything. So, I went there

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and I asked them. I said, "Uh, how's
this affect my pacemaker defiill and all

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that?"
So they said, "You you'll be fine." And

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I says, 'Well, that's funny. I says,
'You know, my cardiologist in Cleveland

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Clinic and my primary care
said,"Absolutely not. You cannot be

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around that high voltage. Your your
equipment will malfunction."

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So then, you know, we got into
discussion about, you know, the kids and

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leukemia. And so they said, "Well,
that's a farce, too." I said, "Well,

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that's funny." I said the World Health
Organization states, you know, I can

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come up with as many research that, you
know, it it affects the kids. So, here,

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you know, they're wanting to put this
line, you know, I says, "Well, how close

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is this going to be to Watermith State
Park?" And, uh, I said, "Well, we don't

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know." And I go, "We know it's running
there somewhere. So, here we're going to

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have, you know, kids and other people's
going to be out there and trying to

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enjoy the uh environment and and nature
and stuff and and then you're going to

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have this constant hum that, you know,
uh my son-in-law, he's he's a medical

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doctor and when he was in medical
school, they took him down to where

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there's like a 100 uh kilovolt line and
he said that hum was just unbelievable.

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So, I hate to see what this 765
line's going to do. So, you know, I hope

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that you all oppose this. You know, I
asked them uh um about um

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all uh spraying and doing all this
stuff. And so I asked to see their

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material data sheets. They couldn't
produce any of that. They says, "We use

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about 30 to 40 chemicals and sometimes
we use helicopters and but we haven't

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done the uh the study to see what we'll
use." And they said, "But we stop 40

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feet before it runs into the water." I
said, "4t? Wow." I said, "The rain will

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carry it the rest of the way." So, I
know a lot of biologists and stuff. So,

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I wanted to take these material data
sheets on the chemicals they use. So, I

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wanted to see what they said.
And so, then I asked them about the uh

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the structures. They says, "Well, we
haven't done anything there yet neither.

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We have to do a geological study." Well,
that doesn't tell me anything. So then I

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asked him, I says,"Well, I read this
article about the uh metal roofs and

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electric and uh getting shocked. I don't
need no shocks." And uh they said,

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"Well, uh your house will probably have
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I says, "Well, who's going to pay for
that?" They said, "That that would be up

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to the lander." Thank you,
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Good morning.
I am asking for your voice of

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opposition. You are our voices. You can
be loud. I'm asking for that. Um, a lot

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of people don't realize that if it
doesn't cross your property, you are

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still affected andffected.
We are 50th in the nation for drinking

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water quality.
Drinking water is mostly for for the

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public. Specifically, let's talk about
Clarksburg is taken from the West Fork

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River. Every route in Lewis County,
every route proposed in Harrison County

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crosses the watershed of the West Fork
River. No matter which one they pick,

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the West Fork River and its tributaries
will be affected. It will be affected by

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the spray they use. and they will tell
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So was Roundup.
All of that will go into your water.

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There is no treatment for these
chemicals. These are known as forever

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chemicals. There are no EPA guidelines
for the forever chemicals that are now

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going to be put into your public water.
This also goes into the wells as runoff

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from the sprays.
The other thing that will happen, we

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have had historic flooding. When you put
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a football field, there is no more
decaying organic matter to trap that

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water.
The West Fork flows from south to north.

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These roots cross east to west that
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and the flooding. I cannot even imagine
what can happen considering what just

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happened in Weston. It also was up here
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Please use your voice to block these
lines. Thank you,

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Sharon Glass.

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Good morning. I've had the privilege of
talking to Mr. Treeost and um your name

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went out of my head, Susan,
uh on the phone and I just wanted to um

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thank you for taking us in and also to
ask that you voice our opposition to the

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Valley North transmission line. Um one
of the other speakers right before

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mentioned about the noise and with your
permission, I'd like to share with you

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what this noise is going to sound like.
Now I my home is near the interstate so

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I have constant interstate noise. So
when I heard this and realized that this

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line will cover up any interstate noise.
It is louder than a constant interstate

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and it goes 247 24 hours a day. It never
stops. So with your permission I'll just

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give you a short excerpt of of this
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Yep. I turned it on.

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There's 10 minutes of this. If anyone
would like to have a uh the link, I'll

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be glad to share it with you. You can't
take the 10 minutes. You just can't. So,

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I wanted to bring that to your
attention. And this is 765

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kilovolts of power running close to
homes, close to everything that we hold

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dear in West Virginia. The other thing I
wanted to mention was uh at the open

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house and on uh Valley North's uh
website, they are mentioning reliability

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and they are mentioning affordability.
Now, perhaps they didn't read what PGM's

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planning document said. PGM's planning
documents said that they are moving bulk

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electricity. It has nothing to do with
reliability or affordability for West

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Virginia. Nothing to do with that. So, I
wanted to bring that out. Uh we in West

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Virginia, we have plenty of electric. We
don't have any reliability issues that

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we are all good. So the other thing as
mentioned I agree with with the

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herbicides and our water and also um the
metal. Uh what we don't think about is

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in West Virginia a lot of our sheds, our
homes, our watering troughs, they're

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metal. When an animal goes to those and
they happen to be near these lines, the

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animals get shocked. They stop drinking.
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» Kim Rristen.

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Good morning, Commissioners Thomas and
Commissioner Hinkle. My name is Kim

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Rristen. My family has been in Harrison
County before it was Harrison County.

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We've been Our farm has been with our
family for over 200 years. continuous

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usage a little over 700 acres in
southern west uh Harrison County, West

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Virginia.
Farming for us has been a lifestyle

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choice. We haven't stayed here because
we had to. We stayed here because we

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chose to.
These power lines uh segment 360 or

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segment 355 will impact our property.
It will have an aesthetic. It will

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affect the peacefulness. quiet as you
just heard from the noise. Noise is a

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real concern.
And the distance of the rideaways, a 200

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foot swath rideway is over 2/3 of a
football field. And that is a permanent

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forever rideway. They will pay for it
once. They are putting up, they say 175

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foot to 200 foot towers. However, they
are not confined to that size nor that

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number. They're saying now six lines,
but I have checked with them and they

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can put up to any number of lines that
they would choose to put through.

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There is no economic benefit for
Harrison County. There is no economic

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benefit for my family. We will be paid
once or forever right away. There is no

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tax uh advantages for the county.
There's no electrical consumption that

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goes into West Virginia. This is simply
a way to get it from Ohio to Virginia or

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Maryland. I've understood it is for data
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Either the data centers need to go where
the electric is or they can build power

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plants in Virginia or Maryland and use
our natural gas which would have a

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positive effect to power them.
There are many other concerns including

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including induced voltage. Uh in my farm
magazines it says if I happen to be out

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trying to ted the hay in the summertime
which creates a lot of static particles

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in the air I can be shocked while I'm
working. Now they have assured me valley

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north that that will have no long-term
effects.

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I however do not care for the idea of
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As proposed,
this project allows a large corporation

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to once again move through West Virginia
without leaving us any positive effects

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and only living with the consequences.
I would strongly urge for the commission

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to pass a resolution against the Valley
North line. Thank you,

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» Bev Taylor.

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» Good morning. Uh, thanks for having us
here. Um, I agree with everyone that has

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been up here. Uh, and they've said
mostly of what I was going to say. Um,

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I want to just say, are we crazy? Would
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If you all have you looked up at what's
already in the sky, all the lines that's

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already there, and some of them are
loud. Now, Miss Klasco played the sound.

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It is loud.
You think the wildlife is going to stay

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around and listen
to these sounds? I don't think so.

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Um, like I said, most most everything um
that I was going to say was said, but

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these towers is big, almost as big as a
football field. You all been to a

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football field. Look how widespan this
is and the lines. And once they get this

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right away, they can do whatever they
please. They can put a water line

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through to maybe supply the data
centers. They can do whatever they want

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to. Plus, it'll be wider because they're
going to need roads to get all of their

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equipment.
Everything's going to be tore up even

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around the rideway.
Once we permit this, it's going to

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happen and they're going to do whatever
they want to.

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We personally have a small um hrea. Our
electric bill is already skyhigh.

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It don't it's not coming through my
place, but it's going to raise my power

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bill and it's going to raise all of our
power bills.

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I don't think we need more expenses.
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the company says this is to provide
growth.

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We are declining in population.
We are aging.

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What's this going to benefit us?

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You know, everybody's going to leave.
And the ones that do come in to still,

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you know, see the sights and all, do you
think they're going to come in and see

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these huge lines stretched across and
humming? I I think not.

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This is a Virginia company invading West
Virginia. We're being evaded again. Are

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we extension cord for everyone? I don't
think so. We shouldn't be, but it seems

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like we're getting suckered into
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So, I want to ask the commission,
please, please

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help us.
Please, I oppose the Valley Link and the

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North Valley project.
And I'd like to present you with these

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pictures if I may to keep and give Mr.
Tree calls one to

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Mike, do you want to go ahead and
>> Does this mic work over here?

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» That's fine. Yeah.

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» Hello. First, I want to say uh thank you
for letting me come up and and uh talk

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with you. Um this power line is proposed
one of one of the directions supposed to

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go is going right over top of my
drinking water well. Um I am I'm nervous

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to uh say that the
for the quality of my drinking water

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that my family supplies on and where we
live we can't get city water. We depend

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solely on that well to to water to our
house. Also it cuts through several uh

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building property places future building
sites that we wanted to uh to pursue in

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the future but again that would all be
stopped because of this. Besides that,

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talking with my friends in oil and gas,
the noise level that she played um

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during that's the that's the normal
level. That's just the normal during

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during um if it's foggy or it's raining,
it can be as loud as a rock concert with

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loud arcs that sound like a lightning
storm. So my friends in oil and gas,

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it's like when it's whenever they're
around it and it's raining or foggy out,

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the the lightning strikes. Imagine being
around lightning strikes. Besides that,

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just everyday conversations. It's as
loud as what she played like a a really

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old vacuum cleaner you have to yell over
to uh to communicate.

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Uh imagine that 24 hours a day. I It
doesn't benefit us as as a county

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whatsoever. Um, and it's destroying
people's their views, their their

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health. I was looking up some of the the
health sightings. And this one here is

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from emfharmony.com
and it talks about their safe distance

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charge be around 700 feet away from it
because the studies that link magnetic

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field exposure to childhood cancer. We
don't need any more of that.

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Uh in addition research has found that
nonionizing radiation also presents in

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Wi-Fi devices and cell phones can cause
uh oxidative stress. It um can do ectric

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echrogen changes, cellular DNA damages,
sperm test damages, uh calcium overload

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and the effects of EMF right that you
would be getting from this are

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frequently and cumulative and
irreversible.

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Why in the world would we put something
through our county that's going to

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affect the health, the the beauty, the
wildlife, the water? Why would we do

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that? It doesn't benefit us whatsoever.
I thank you for your time.

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» Robert Stinger.

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» Hello. I'm a resident of southern
Harrison County. Most of these people I

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know or have met attending some of these
meetings.

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I'm just going to echo basically what
everybody else said. I am also a farmer,

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livestock farmer and a veterinarian.
Now, I've tried to do some research on

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it and there definitely are claims where
these high voltage lines are causing

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negative impacts on animals as well.
I don't know. It seems to be hard to get

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a straight answer out of the Valley Link
people at these open houses, but they

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talk about a 200 foot rideway. My
understanding is that there's an

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additional 100 ft or so on each side
where you can't have any buildings.

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Well, if that comes through your
property, it basically has rendered your

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entire property useless. So, as all
these people said, there's no benefit.

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It's easy to call them power lines, but
they're really transmission lines.

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There's no plans to have any power to
West Virginia. It's just going to the

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data centers. And you just have to look
at a cost benefit. As far as everybody

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here, we've all went to these meetings.
They've been able to provide no benefit

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or evidence of benefit to our county or
to the people.

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I I know they're just going through the
southern part of the county and I think

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there's some concern there. It's a lower
population, more rural part of the

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county. And we're here today to just
make sure that you listen to your

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constituents down in the southern part
of the county. We are dependent on

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agriculture. We are dependent on hunting
and for sure these lines are going to be

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negative to to all those attributes that
we hold dear.

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Thank you,
>> Dave Sutton.

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» Hi, my name is Dave Sutton. I live in
Stonewood. I'm recovering addict and I

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brought some um more information on my
Uber proposal that I've been advocating

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for and if you guys would take a look at
it and I see that you're getting ready

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to hire IT people.
So those they could implement this

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really really easily.
And you take some of that opioid money

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and use it for something be very
constructive

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and would help. Um and as you look at
that proposal, you'll see that it's

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going to save taxpayers money in the end
for a little bit of outlay.

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So, I hope you guys look at that and
consider it.

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And as far as this power line, I gotta
say this is just the high-tech version

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of what the coal companies did to this
state for how many years?

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You know, it's the same thing letting
it, you know, hopefully we're not going

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to let this play out again because we
see what the coal companies did. They

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made jobs, but also the taxpayers
again

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did the cleanups and
so it's make the liabilities public and

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the profits private just like the coal
companies. So I really hope you guys um

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stand up against all that. Stand up
against that all you can.

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It's all I got.
Patty Johnson.

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Thank you for having this meeting. I
appreciate the opportunity to say

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something. I am not directly um
I'm not this the line will not go

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through me. I'm on the northern end of
the ca the county. However, I my uncle

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purchased a piece of property um several
years ago. It's been many years ago and

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I had some experience with the high
tension lines that go through it went

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through his property. Um it was on the
upper end and I know that like she

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demonstrated with her recording there
was a lot of noise from that line. It

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was constant. Then along in the evening,
usually around four o'clock, the noise

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increased. I guess they were turning the
power up down at Harrison. I don't know.

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I mean, that I'm I'm not a person, but
he had a 200 foot right away through his

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property and it didn't really affect
him. We just bought it to run a couple

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of horses on. I mean, he was the one
that purchased it. But I can see no

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benefit whatsoever for anybody in this
room other than to lose their land,

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which no one wants to do that. Um,
I've had some experience with an

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instance where we were threatened with
eminent domain and it was kind of run

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through on the same thing. it was really
to support somebody else, but you know,

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they claimed it was for the benefit of
the community, which it wasn't, but um

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we couldn't fight them on it. I mean, we
didn't have the money to take them to

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court and fight them. Um, I just would
like to see the commission do the right

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thing and do what all of these other
counties, Upure, Lewis, Barber, all of

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these people are doing, which is to
present a resolution to oppose this

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because I'm so afraid that the PFC is
going to go ahead and um push it on

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through because I think there everybody
down there seems to be involved in the

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idea that this is a good thing. It is
not a good thing.

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And one of the things that I don't think
anybody's really brought up is the

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the destruction that it's going to bring
to the farms that it runs through. And

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that right away may be 200 ft, but
believe me, there are going to be in and

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out, in and out, and you're not going to
get anything out of you're not going to

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get any additional monies. You're just
going to have to live with the mess.

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Thank you.

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Tilman is the last name I believe.
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» Thanks. Being last simply means
>> that was you

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» simply means I was the latest one to
arrive. But echo many of the comments

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that were presented here and thank you
for the opportunity to speak.

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I was real proud of our county and our
community because they appeared in mass

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at that Harrison County High School
thing. I saw Judge Medell there. He was

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not too happy with having 250 foot
towers. I saw cattle farmers. I saw Bob

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Suan and Davy Rrist and they were not
too happy. I saw Cara Elgo. Cara is the

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uh director of critical care at UHC
and um she was concerned about her

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elderly relatives. I also saw Jim
DeMarco. Jim is a is a internal medicine

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nephrologist board certified at UHC.
He's been there for 40 years. And he

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said in his medical school teaching, it
was an apparent fact that the EMF

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frequencies from these high voltage
lines had detrimental effects to health.

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My name is Mike Tilman. I'm I'm a
retired nurse. I'm also retired as a CEO

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of UHC. So at the hearing
I I wandered over to the health person

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who was talking about the health impacts
of this line and she very glibly said

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there's no causality between EMF
frequencies and poor health

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and and I did some research on that and
in a sense she's really right because to

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prove causality in the medical field you
have to have a significant sample you

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have to have randomized double blind
studies and you have to control for

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variables. So in order to prove
causality and damaging effects of EMF,

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you would have to take let's say let's
say a thousand babies, randomly assign

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500 to live under EMF lines, 500 to live
outside of EMF lines, control for

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variables, and study them longitudinally
over 20 years. Now that's stretching it

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00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:57,520
a little bit, but of course studies like
that can't be done. So there are no

413
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:02,320
studies that demonstrate causality.
However, just a real casual review of

414
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,640
the literature shows there's real
potential damages to these EMS

415
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:11,040
frequencies which are caused by these
lines. I'm not going to read them to

416
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:15,839
you. I'm not a subject matter expert,
but I will give you this handout which

417
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:19,760
which demonstrates some of the some of
the dangers of electromagnetic

418
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:24,400
frequency.
So, like everyone else here, we hope

419
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:28,320
that you listen to the residents of
southern Harrison County and we also

420
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:32,640
hope that the public service commission
listens to all the county commissions,

421
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,000
realizing that perhaps you won't listen
to us and we realize that perhaps the

422
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:43,480
public service commission will listen to
you, but we certainly hope that you take

423
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,480
a stand against these lines. Thank you.

424
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,440
If I could approach and give you a snip.

425
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:13,040
Is there anyone on Zoom that wishes to
speak publicly?

426
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:21,359
Anyone
on Zoom wish to speak publicly?

427
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:29,079
Okay, hearing none, we will move to the
1005 nuisance property. Chad and Roberta

428
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,079
Barnhart, case 25001.

429
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:39,839
» Good morning. Um, I have Chad and Robera
Barnhart. Um I we have talked to Chad

430
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:44,640
Barnhart and he has obvious they went
through a divorce. Chad has signed over

431
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:52,640
all his rights to Roberta for this
property. Um we have the deed. He gave

432
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:59,760
he brought us the deed yesterday and we
heard from his attorney as well.

433
00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:06,119
Um, so it remains in Roberta's hands to
either she needs to get this fixed or

434
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:06,119
demolished.

435
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:13,599
» Is Roberta here. Okay.
>> I'm in the process of selling the

436
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:18,960
property. I was waiting on the deed. As
soon as I get it deeded, I'm switching

437
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:23,320
it right over to um Christina Jones and
they are willing to fix the property.

438
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:34,839
She said if we can give her two or three
weeks, they'll get the grass cut and

439
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,839
start working on the property.

440
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,400
» I do. Has it been reported?

441
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:56,800
» It has not. Not yet.
Once I get the original deed, once it's

442
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:02,359
recorded and everything, then I'm just
going to deed it right on over to

443
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,359
Christina Jones.

444
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:12,960
Commissioners, this deed was done on the
fourth day of August of this year, and

445
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:18,920
we do have a copy of their divorce
decree um Chad has turned in.

446
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,680
You see something?

447
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:11,079
Just wait and see what happens.

448
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,400
Can you verify what she said?

449
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:32,839
Did leave it.

450
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,839
This is

451
00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:18,280
It's not two weeks.

452
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,319
Just
give them

453
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,400
energy.

454
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:56,280
What was

455
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:15,200
» make a motion to give you two weeks to
get D5

456
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:20,880
» and 30 days for remediation.
>> Okay.

457
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:25,520
So I once I get the deed
>> give you two weeks to get the deed filed

458
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:28,960
30 days for remediation. If not then we
will continue

459
00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:32,960
our next steps.
>> All right that sounds

460
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,319
» you make sure that it gets recorded or
do you want her to bring a copy of the

461
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:40,560
recorded deed or how do you bring copy
to planning? What is the recorded deed?

462
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:47,440
» Okay.
>> Okay. Okay. The motion is within two

463
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:50,400
weeks that
>> be recorded

464
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:54,160
» the deed that Robera get the deed
recorded and a copy come to the planning

465
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:59,280
department
>> and then 30 after 30 days of that then

466
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,240
we will
remediate correct

467
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:07,119
» yes
>> is there any further any discussion

468
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:13,520
hearing none all in favor signify by
saying I I any opposed hearing none

469
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,520
motion carried

470
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:22,800
Okay. 1010 nuisance property, Black
Rockck Enterprises

471
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:26,319
properties in Jarvisville.
>> Um,

472
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:31,760
Michael Benedom. This property belongs
to Michael Benedom. He called me the

473
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:38,160
other day. He's has been out of town.
Um, and he is not able to come today,

474
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:43,920
but he said he will take care of this
within two weeks.

475
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:50,359
and he is also a client of uh Mr.
Simmons and he said he also told him

476
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,359
that as well

477
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:59,240
» and by taking care of it
>> de demoing it taking it down.

478
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:08,839
» How long have you been going over this?
>> A good while. This one ready to go to

479
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:17,920
» Yes.
Motion 30 days to have building and the

480
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:25,280
property cleaned up and removed if not
turn it over to leave it 30 days.

481
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:31,280
» Okay. The motion is to give them 30 days
to clean up the property, get it down,

482
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,200
and if not then we will turn it over to
legal. Correct.

483
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,839
» Yes, ma'am.
>> Okay. Any discussion?

484
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:44,079
Hearing none. All in favor signify by
saying I. I. Any opposed? Hearing none.

485
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:52,240
Motion carried.
Okay. 10:15. Proclamation. Harrison

486
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:58,119
County goes purple for September 2026.
Do we have We have the proclamation.

487
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,560
I mean,

488
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,880
you come on. Okay.

489
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:31,680
We're at National Recovery Month is
observed September to increase awareness

490
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:36,640
and understanding of mental health and
substance use disorders and to celebrate

491
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:41,760
those in recovery with their strength
and resilience. And whereas the color

492
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:47,760
purple symbolizes the ongoing trouble
faced by individuals, health care

493
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:53,040
providers have been addressing opioids
and substance use crisis across our

494
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:57,920
communities. And whereas West Virginia
goes purple, founded by Terra PC,

495
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:03,920
founder and executive director of the
hope project, is a statewide movement

496
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:09,520
dedicated to raising awareness, reducing
stigma, and supporting individuals and

497
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:15,440
families. ed by substance use disorder.
And whereas Harrison County goes most

498
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:19,760
frequent and recovery resources while
emphasizing the vital role local

499
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:24,480
agencies and community members play in
addressing this public health crisis.

500
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:29,520
And whereas Harrison County goes purple
encourages open dialogue, community

501
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:36,160
engagement, and collective action
substance misuse and sub and support.

502
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:41,359
And now therefore, be it resolved that
the Harrison County Commission is hereby

503
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:46,640
in the month of September 2026.
Be the Harrison County show. Be it

504
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:50,720
further resolved. We the Harrison County
Commission in the state of West Virginia

505
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:56,559
call upon the citizens to observe this
month through awareness, education and

506
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:00,720
community engagement by wearing purple,
lighting homes and businesses with

507
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:06,960
purple lights displaying purple ribbons
or signage and participating in recovery

508
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:14,359
focus events and passed by the county
commission of Harrison County, West

509
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,359
Virginia this day of August 26.

510
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:30,000
So my name is I grew up here West
Virginia 35 years old Indian graduated

511
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:36,079
2009 Bridgeport went to college and
everything and how my life

512
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:41,200
kind of stop being emotional but I of
course you know did not have a good

513
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:46,960
support system and I turned to my kne
was the supply and I has lost hundreds

514
00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:51,440
of countless friends, family members,
everything due to the opioid epidemic

515
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:55,119
and substance use disorder. So there's a
lot of stigma behind it. Hands down. You

516
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,040
see the people out in the streets, you
know, they're worthless. They're bombs.

517
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:04,079
They're junkies. That's daughter, that's
a son, that's a mother, I'm a mom, I'm a

518
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:08,880
wife, my name's Sarah, I'm not any of
those things. I have a wife. And you

519
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:13,599
know, I finally chose to fight for my
family and for a better understanding

520
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:18,800
because those words, they do affect
people. We do believe everything the

521
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:22,880
community calls us that we feel like
we're not worthy of it. Okay. And one

522
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:26,800
act of kindness, helping somebody,
making sure there's resources out there,

523
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:31,200
you know, there is a housing crisis in
this in this county. Sadly, there's very

524
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:37,839
minimal resources out there to help
children that do, you know, have broken

525
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:42,240
homes, everything and spews white. So
with that being said, I mean, you know,

526
00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:47,359
I can't use trauma for my choices and
actions, but addiction is a very bad

527
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:51,200
disease. It really is. I mean, I did
things that I never thought in a million

528
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:55,280
years I would do. I had a home. I had a
good education. You know, I was supposed

529
00:51:53,359 --> 00:52:00,720
to be, you know, one that got my first
college degree in my family. Sadly, the

530
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:05,200
wife decided that there was another I
had to be humbled because I was very

531
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:09,280
naive. It is very good to educate your
children, your nieces, your nephews, one

532
00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:14,319
substance use. It's very easy to say
just don't do it. I took their classes.

533
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:18,720
I've listened to all the rhetoric and
it's it's not a reality anymore in the

534
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:24,400
supply. It is dangerous. It's not
heroin. It's fentanyl. In that folks

535
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:29,119
tranquilizer, which is causing overdose
not to be able to be reversed anymore

536
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:33,119
because it's not. So just educate your
family and everything. Just have

537
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:37,119
kindness, please. That's all I ask for.
Because now I have a career. I work for

538
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:43,440
a multi-billion dollar corporation. I am
an outreach worker. I help people in the

539
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:48,880
judicial system. Find an alter of jail.
That's very quick to say just lock them

540
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:52,160
up and not even think twice of it. You
know that can save revenue and

541
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:57,520
everything. And we do have fun that can
help with resources to make sure people

542
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:01,359
have food maybe get a bed in recovery
open up more recovery centers because

543
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:05,760
I'm loud and I'm proud. I'm not ashamed
of my pal whatsoever. It's got me where

544
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:10,240
I'm at. I've got my children back. I
never read enough outreach and you know

545
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:13,440
I love it here. I came back to this
county because I want to fight my

546
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:18,359
people. You all deserve that. You
deserve a second chance. Thank you.

547
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:47,520
and money. We have a special funding
request from the West Virginia Italian

548
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:51,280
Heritage Festival requesting $5,000 for
their festival that takes place in

549
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Clarksburg on September 4th through
September 6th.

550
00:53:53,200 --> 00:54:00,400
» Good morning. Thank you for allowing me
to come before you today. My name is

551
00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:05,760
Ouij Vargo. I have been in some capacity
with the West Virginia Italian Heritage

552
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:10,960
Festival for the entire 47 years. So I
have had the privilege of seeing the

553
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:16,240
great collaboration that exists between
the festival and the county commission.

554
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:19,839
um without the county commission
support, whether it is financial or

555
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:24,720
whether it is just a collaborative
effect as we put our stage up as we get

556
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:29,680
ready to bring the festival to the
streets. Uh the county commission has

557
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:34,720
always worked beautifully with us to
help us bring this festival to pu

558
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:41,520
fruition every year with a budget of
just a little under $450,000.

559
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:47,599
close to a half a million dollars is the
festival budget in what we do throughout

560
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:54,319
the entire year to produce for 47 years
now this fabulous festival. So, humbly

561
00:54:51,040 --> 00:55:00,800
we request and respectfully we request a
$5,000 contribution from the um county

562
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:06,079
commission this year to help put towards
another successful year. We know that we

563
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:10,400
bring a lot of foot traffic moving up
into the weekend of the festival and

564
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:14,079
throughout the festival. And that foot
traffic, of course, those people sleep

565
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:18,319
in our hotels, they eat in our
restaurants, they visit our retail

566
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:22,800
shops, and they spend money while
they're here at the festival and with

567
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:28,240
things throughout the county. So, we
respectfully ask for a $5,000 grant from

568
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:34,640
the commission. Thank you very much.
>> You're welcome. Thank you.

569
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:38,240
Move to approve $5,000 for West Virginia
Heritage Festival.

570
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:43,680
» Motion to
uh award the $5,000 request from the uh

571
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:48,319
award the $5,000 request to the West
Virginia Italian Heritage Festival. Is

572
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:56,119
there any discussion? Hearing none. All
in favor signify by saying I. I. Any

573
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,119
opposed? Hearing none. Motion carries.

574
00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:03,839
Okay. 1025 special funding request from
John'stown Community Educational

575
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:08,319
Outreach Service requesting $3,000
through annual John'stown Fair that

576
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:13,359
takes place on September 11th through
September 12th.

577
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:17,280
» Uh I'm not a COS member, just uh it just
sent me down to speak. Uh good morning

578
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:23,599
and my name is John Chapman from the big
city of Johnstown and this is our 72nd

579
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:27,680
community fair and you all have been
gracious to help us and we're asking

580
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:32,880
again this year for $3,000 to keep us
going. All the basically all the money

581
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:37,680
goes to keep the community building
in business and we'd appreciate any any

582
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:41,400
that you give us and hope to see you all
there. Thank you.

583
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:58,240
Motion to approve $3,000 request
for the annual John'stown fair.

584
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:03,440
» Motion to approve the $3,000 for the
annual John'stown fair. Is there any

585
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:10,680
discussion? Hearing none. All in favor
signify by saying I. I. Any opposed?

586
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,680
Hearing none. Motion carried.

587
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:23,119
How did I think it wasn't past 10:30?
>> Um, so at 10:30 we have a special

588
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:29,119
funding request from the town of Lost
Creek requesting $24,450

589
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:32,319
for a drainage project.
>> Good morning, commissioners. My name is

590
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:39,119
Richard Gaines. I'm an engineer with
Stantech Consulting Services. I'm here

591
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:45,520
on behalf of uh town of Lost Creek.
Dear uh Mayor Dave Volivario sends his

592
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:49,440
regards. He was unable to attend today.
I'm sure you're aware that we have a

593
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:53,280
drainage project going forth in in Lost
Creek. We were here about a month ago,

594
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:57,520
two months ago getting a an easement
through the rail trail. At that time, we

595
00:57:56,079 --> 00:58:06,240
told you we were bidding the project.
The project was bid. project uh did come

596
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:11,520
in over budget and with some
modifications, some changes, deletions,

597
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:20,960
we were able to get the project within
budget and we uh on July 27th issued uh

598
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:25,280
notice to proceed with a contractor BC
Allen.

599
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:32,319
Um,
but one of the things that we had to cut

600
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:38,640
from the project was a uh replacement of
a 4-in asbestous cement uh water line

601
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:44,640
that's owned by Greater Harrison.
Uh when we started the project, we sent

602
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:48,799
uh something out to all utilities to
say, "We're going to be tearing up the

603
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:54,880
asphalt. We're going to have impact in
the whole area. Please look at your

604
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:59,520
utilities and determine if you need to
replace them because we don't want to do

605
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:04,160
all these improvements and come up with
a project and then find out that you

606
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:10,559
need to replace a line and then tear up
all the new asphalt and the investment

607
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:15,920
that's put in. Um,
Hope Gas immediately came replaced the

608
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:20,559
water line or their gas line in the
roadway. That's been completed for a

609
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:25,119
little over a year.
The other lines that were in the road

610
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:29,280
were owned by Greater Harrison. The
sewer line they felt like was no

611
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:35,359
problem. It's deep enough, no problems
to deal with, but they were concerned

612
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:42,160
about the water line. said they did not
have budget to replace it at the time.

613
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:49,760
So the suggestion was Lost Creek,
myself, we designed the replacement of

614
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:53,920
the water line, bid that and decided to
make it a deductive alternate.

615
00:59:52,000 --> 01:00:03,319
Unfortunately, it was one of the items
we had to deduct from the project.

616
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:03,319
The price uh for that was $33,360

617
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:13,760
was the bid for replacement of that
water line for 540 ft.

618
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:17,839
So what we did is we went back to the
contractor. We've talked with Greater

619
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:25,280
Harrison. I went to the board meeting
last this past month and presented to

620
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:31,680
them our wishes to have that water line
replaced. Basically, I was told we don't

621
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:37,520
have the funds. Um, and basically they
felt like it was the town's problem to

622
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:41,839
deal with and so the suggestion was to
come to the county commission. the

623
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:47,680
greater Harrison is a subdivision of the
county and uh they they get their funds

624
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:54,079
from there. But basically what we've
done is we've gone back to the uh

625
01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:59,760
contractor. We've coordinated with
Greater Harrison

626
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:04,559
and by doing some direct purchase of
materials

627
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:09,359
uh Greater Harrison doing a little work
uh on their with their own labor taking

628
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:15,880
out a fire hydrant and some things to
reduce our costs. We were able to get

629
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,880
down to a need of $24,540

630
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:25,760
to replace this water line. And um I
don't know if you all are familiar with

631
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:31,040
asbestous cement pipe. It's was great
when it was put in because that was the

632
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:36,480
best material at the time. It is fine
when it's in its current location and

633
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:40,880
there's no work being done. We're
removing about a foot of material off

634
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:44,799
the top of it. going to be putting down
new base material, new asphalt, which

635
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:50,240
will have vibration,
and it it will very likely cause uh

636
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:57,200
fractures in the pipe.
And

637
01:01:52,000 --> 01:02:02,480
so, our request is for that $24,540
to replace that water line. The one

638
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:09,119
point I would say is, can we do the
project without replacement? And the

639
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:16,000
answer is absolutely we can. But it
would be a travesty in my opinion to do

640
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:21,680
all this work, put
800, $900,000 into a project just to

641
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:26,160
come up with six months down the road
with leakage under the road and then

642
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:30,520
tearing up all the new asphalt.
So I'm open for questions.

643
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:40,480
You got remove fire hydrant
so that hydrant won't be replaced.

644
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:43,760
» Yes, exactly. What? Right now there is a
existing fire hydrant on a 4-in water

645
01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:50,400
line
>> which is not allowed by the health

646
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:54,400
department. And so um it it was never
allowed. I can't say never. Maybe when

647
01:02:52,640 --> 01:03:00,079
it was installed it could be. Now that
we are replacing the water line, even if

648
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:05,359
it were with a 4 inch, um the w the fire
hydrant cannot be there. The fire hy

649
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:11,760
fire department has asked for a new
connection so they can fill their trucks

650
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:14,640
from the PS from the PSD and I don't
think they've gone anywhere with that

651
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:21,039
yet. But that was just a suggestion from
the town council meeting last night.

652
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:27,599
Now, one one point I didn't make there
is when we went to the greater Harrison

653
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:35,200
uh meeting, they came back and said, "We
don't want to replace the 4-in line with

654
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:38,720
4 in. We want to replace it with a 6 in,
but the problem is it doesn't connect to

655
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:43,839
a 6 inch on either end." So, they still
can't put a fire hydrant on that. So,

656
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:49,119
they're wanting to upsize the pipe to 6
in. So you can see we've actually went

657
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:52,280
down in price with going up in size of
the pipe

658
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:56,920
just by the negotiations with the
contractor

659
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:06,000
and Greater Harrison doesn't have any of
these

660
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:11,599
gate valves or
that they can donate to the project.

661
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:16,559
that is a part of this reduction in cost
is is a few items that they have in

662
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:20,640
stock that they can provide.
They didn't want me to tout all that,

663
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:28,039
but uh basically they're they're
providing some assistance

664
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:28,039
and the result is this this difference.

665
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:41,200
So basically, Greater Harrison is doing
nothing.

666
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,319
» I'm taking
>> And that's not what I thought was going

667
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,319
on,
>> right?

668
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:52,640
» I thought they were ponying up.
>> Isn't that what you were told?

669
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:57,920
» I I would have thought they'd have
stepped up. I'm I'm not very happy.

670
01:04:56,079 --> 01:05:01,599
» I mean, that's what I was under the
impression that they were going to put

671
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:07,200
something in for this. Again, they they
are assisting, but they're not they're

672
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:10,000
not able to come up with just additional
funds that that we

673
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:14,240
» How are they assisting?
>> Well, one is a fire hydrant they are

674
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:18,880
replacing or pulling out, which was an
$8,200

675
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:22,960
cost. So, they're going to provide that
labor to remove that fire hydrant. And

676
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:26,000
then they are also providing some
materials.

677
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,280
» Okay, that's what I
>> some materials that they have available.

678
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:34,880
Okay.
>> Do most of this work, Susan.

679
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:39,359
» But I hate I mean I think I I would What
do I know? But after watching what we

680
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:43,039
went through with Clarksburg, I would
agree 100% that when you got that open,

681
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,880
we need to fix it,
>> right?

682
01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:51,680
» So, where are you at on awarding the
contract? The contract is awarded

683
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:57,440
without the water line and the
contractor is planning to start next

684
01:05:53,839 --> 01:06:01,039
week on everything without the the water
line.

685
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:06,000
» Well, if the water line gets replaced,
then he's the one going to do the all

686
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:13,839
the the work. Harrison's going to come
in and

687
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:18,319
» basically BC BC Allen will will put the
new line in and once the old line is

688
01:06:16,319 --> 01:06:21,599
dead, they'll pull Greater Harrison will
pull out the fire hydrant.

689
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:25,440
» What are these reconnect services of
$7500?

690
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:30,240
» Those are the connections that feed the
houses, the fire department, all the

691
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:32,480
businesses down through uh Railroad
Street

692
01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:39,200
» and Greater Harrison's charge and
reconnect fees.

693
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:46,280
No, no. Those are the contractor to to
disconnect the old line and put in a new

694
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:46,280
line service line up to the meter.

695
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:12,720
I'm trying to get a more defined answer.
I was under the impression that Greater

696
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:16,400
Harrison was helping out. Um
>> Well, I guess they're supplying the

697
01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:19,520
» materials. Yeah.
>> Yeah. The only labor that they're

698
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,520
providing is to take out the one fire
hydrant.

699
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:41,039
because this is the third number I've
seen. So, and the last one I saw was a

700
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:43,440
little bit cheaper than this.
>> That's I'm not sure where that one had

701
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:49,520
come from.
>> I don't remember at this time either.

702
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:54,240
I mean, I'm I'm not opposed to trying to
help out Lost Creek, but

703
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:58,720
and I'm going to say it. I think Greater
Harrison could step up a little bit.

704
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:05,839
» I'm not going to disagree. I mean, we
gave him a rate increase. You know, that

705
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:09,720
we look to financials, they're not
running bare to bone.

706
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:15,200
I I don't understand why they
>> So, you're telling me if this line fails

707
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,839
and they're going to have to do all this
work anyway?

708
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:24,719
» Well, it'll be what what I'm afraid of
is there's going to be a one problem

709
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:27,920
area and it's going to be a patch. Then
there's going to be another problem area

710
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:31,040
and it's going to be a patch and this
brand new asphalt's going to

711
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,239
» 10 times to and when we could get it
done right now.

712
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:36,159
» Yeah.
>> Hopefully

713
01:08:33,839 --> 01:08:41,719
not have to dig again.
>> Yeah. Somebody was here from greater

714
01:08:38,719 --> 01:08:41,719
Harris.

715
01:08:50,799 --> 01:08:58,159
So, what happens if we push this off two
weeks? How does that affect the project?

716
01:08:56,480 --> 01:09:03,600
» Uh, I mean, the contractor will be
starting next week. Uh, it probably

717
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:07,520
would not be terrible to put off for two
weeks. I think they could still be able

718
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:11,279
to move forward and get it completed.
Our our deal is trying to get everything

719
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:18,080
done by the end of November before the
asphalt plants close.

720
01:09:14,719 --> 01:09:22,640
So, it's it's it's the uh they have it
shown to start construction next week on

721
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:25,440
their schedule if they were to do it.
But again, if we push it for a couple

722
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:28,600
weeks, I don't think it'd be the end of
the world.

723
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:37,679
» Thanks.
Well, I mean, I don't want to hold up a

724
01:09:35,839 --> 01:09:42,159
project, but if you think it
>> Oh, I mean,

725
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,480
I'm like David. I wish they were here,
but I don't know what I'd say to them if

726
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:49,600
they were. But
>> well, be just looking at their

727
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:56,880
financials. I mean,
this this benefits them

728
01:09:53,679 --> 01:10:02,120
and their their charge as far as I'm
concerned to supply water and

729
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:09,120
I'm not a fan of
asbestous pipe.

730
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:13,120
I can't understand how they're even
having this discussion why they're not

731
01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:19,280
in removing it and taking the
opportunity to put it in correctly.

732
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:23,120
So that's my charge of it. That's going
to have to come and explain to me why

733
01:10:20,719 --> 01:10:29,360
they're not taking care of that issue
that we still have it in the system.

734
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:34,480
So, if you can wait, I'd love to have
them sit here and explain to us.

735
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,360
» We'll we'll make that work.
>> Okay.

736
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:40,360
» She's trying to get a hold of Bill. I
think

737
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:52,000
» you want to talk to him now or they
>> two weeks. I want to go through their

738
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,040
financials.
>> Okay. Right.

739
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:59,080
» Thank you. So, we will put this on the
next agenda.

740
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:10,480
» Okay. 10:35. We have a special funding
request from Healthy Harrison seeking

741
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:15,840
$100,000 strengthen their request for 1
million from the West Virginia FF for

742
01:11:13,679 --> 01:11:18,960
statewide expansion.
>> Thank you, commissioners. I certainly

743
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:23,120
appreciate the opportunity to come and
speak today. I'd like to start by

744
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:29,679
thanking um you guys for being the front
runners. So, you know, a couple I think

745
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:36,480
it was last year we applied for $65,000
to fund uh a campaign that would drive

746
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:41,440
awareness and attention to the
individual organizations that you funded

747
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:47,280
as part of your opioid settlement funds.
Um we saw tremendous success. I provided

748
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:53,120
those numbers to all of you as a result
of the total number of views to total

749
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:57,840
number of full playthroughs. Um the
response was absolutely tremendous. Uh

750
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:02,239
the videos were incredibly high quality
and we received not only qualitative

751
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:08,719
data that supports our project but
qualitative data. Um and as a result of

752
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:14,320
that uh you know request to the county
commission uh we were invited to explore

753
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:18,239
West Virginia first funding. Um, so we
went through that process and what I'll

754
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:23,280
tell you is that uh the the initial
meeting we had was with the West

755
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:28,320
Virginia First Foundation staff uh
including their executive director and

756
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:35,840
executive team. Um we shared with them
our success and our aspirations to

757
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:39,440
expand into a more robust statewide uh
proposal that would cover the entire

758
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:45,440
state.
um not only were they impressed, they

759
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:52,080
really suggested that they had it in the
back of their mind to do something very

760
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:56,800
similar and um one of the key questions
they asked us was could we garner the

761
01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:02,400
support of the county commission once
again. So I said certainly would explore

762
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:07,600
that. They also wanted me to inquire um
from their board members whether or not

763
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:14,880
uh the idea that we were proposing was
feasible. Um for which we we did pursue.

764
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:20,000
We met with uh Jonath Jonathan Daer at
in Morgantown. Um obviously we have

765
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:25,520
Luenzio on our board. We met with Doris
Stutler who serves on the board. Uh Dr.

766
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:30,080
Christensen um and then another
individual. So, just to be crystal clear

767
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:38,320
here, I am not I went I went to business
school. I have very little experience

768
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:43,199
um with with the opioid epidemic. Um
little to none. But what I'll say is

769
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:47,760
that as a businessman, I have surrounded
myself by professionals who know what

770
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:53,920
they're doing both in the fields of the
opioid recovery and also in the um in

771
01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:59,280
the understanding of the campaigning and
and how important that is to save lives.

772
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:05,040
Now, what does that mean to save lives?
What I can share with you is that uh

773
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:09,360
Jacob's Ladder received $1 million from
the West Virginia First Foundation. And

774
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:13,600
being from Harrison County, I'm sure
both of you have heard of Jacob's Well.

775
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:18,080
So, I thought to myself, why did Jacob's
Well get um a million dollars in funding

776
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:24,640
for this? Turns out it was Jacob's
ladder. So, as a layman, um recognizing

777
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:30,000
the importance of doing these campaigns
to drive traffic to these life-saving

778
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:34,800
organizations is not only critical, if
people are unaware of them and where to

779
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:40,480
turn to, it puts us in a really tough
predicament. So why I'm here today is is

780
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:47,600
to not only answer your questions, but
to propose an idea, a concept that not

781
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:52,800
only is what the experts have considered
to be a very good idea, but also

782
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:58,320
protects the county commission and the
tax dollars that you receive um or tax

783
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:02,719
dollars you receive in protecting the
ideas that you support and also

784
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:07,920
protecting the opioid funds that you've
received. And what I mean by that is we

785
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:12,880
are asking for $100,000 from the
Harrison County Commission in order to

786
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:17,520
pursue a $1 million
um grant from the West Virginia First

787
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:23,600
Foundation. I've also received
commitments from West Virginia News of

788
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:29,679
$100,000 and positively West Virginia
for $100,000 which would mean that we

789
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:34,880
were taking a 30% match towards this $1
million uh dollar grant proposal. Now, I

790
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:39,520
recognize and I've sat through several
meetings. That's a lot of money. That's

791
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:44,159
a lot of money. I I recognize that maybe
two or three places have received more

792
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:49,280
than $100,000, but it's in the few.
Correct. Okay. So, I I'm well aware that

793
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:53,440
it's a lot of money, but what I would
say is that number one, I trust the

794
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:59,120
experts. So, this will have to go
through the West Virginia Foundation.

795
01:15:55,679 --> 01:16:04,480
The board will have to approve this. And
what I'm asking you is contingency

796
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:08,719
money. So you give us zero dollars if
the West Virginia First Foundation

797
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:15,679
decides that this is a bad idea that
they don't want to pursue it. You're out

798
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:20,159
of zero zero dollars. If they do do, if
they do pursue it and they do want to

799
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:23,920
award us with the funding, then it's
it's made very clear that that the

800
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:29,120
Harrison County Commission were the
innovators that were the front runners

801
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:34,480
to support this idea for what becomes a
statewide expansion and and great idea.

802
01:16:32,719 --> 01:16:39,280
Um, so obviously I I've worked
diligently not only to come up with a

803
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:43,120
good idea, but also a safe plan that
protects your funding so that if we do

804
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:48,640
not receive the West Virginia First
funding, you take the $100,000 and

805
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:52,880
allocate it towards anything of of your
suiting. What I I I will add an

806
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:57,360
additional caveat because I don't
believe I included in the application.

807
01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:03,440
If it is your preference that the
$100,000 you would give to this project

808
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:07,199
remains solely in Harrison County, we
can make that clear as part of the

809
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:13,360
proposal as well. And so if you want us
to use part of our strategy to campaign

810
01:17:10,719 --> 01:17:17,520
the 100,000 you give solely for Harrison
County, we can certainly do that as part

811
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:21,520
of our proposal. And not only do I think
it's a good idea, if I were in your

812
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:26,960
seat, I would request that as well. So,
I'm I'm certainly willing to entertain

813
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:30,320
any questions. Um, but but again, I just
want to make it clear. I recognize that

814
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:35,280
this is a lot of money, but we have
every reason to believe that this could

815
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:39,760
really have a strong impact regionally,
statewide, and give the proper credit

816
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:45,120
due to the Harrison County Commission
for having been the the seed funders for

817
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:51,280
us to do our initial campaign.
>> So, let me ask you this, General. Could

818
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:55,920
we pledge the $100,000 to you
or do we you have to deposit $100,000?

819
01:17:53,760 --> 01:18:01,199
» No, I need a pledge.
Basically saying that contingent on the

820
01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:06,239
West Virginia First Foundation money,
we would be we would be willing to to

821
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:12,239
give our portion if you if you receive
the award. If you don't, you're you're

822
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:16,000
not on the hook for anything at all.
And so again, it's going through the

823
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:20,239
experts. It insulates the money and
guarantees that you don't have to dish

824
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:27,360
any funds out unless we're awarded with
grant.

825
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:30,800
» Are we have any opioid funds left?
>> We don't have any opioid funds that

826
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:34,960
would be able to use towards this.
There's opioid funds in the account, but

827
01:18:32,719 --> 01:18:38,000
it's still stuff that is being wait uh
we're waiting to pay out. So, it would

828
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:41,440
have to come out of 026.
>> When's our next

829
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:47,199
» Yeah, that's what
>> next allotment. When's our next aotment?

830
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:54,600
Um, I don't know offh hand because they
never hit they didn't hit at the same

831
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:54,600
time of the year, but I can find out.

832
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:07,239
And again, that the pledge could be
contingent on the next round of funding

833
01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:07,239
coming in as well.

834
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:14,239
My big concern is the one statement you
said that this would be used statewide.

835
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,000
» Well, then he
>> and then and then I understand you

836
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:20,800
narrow, but I don't know how you narrow
what you're doing so it's only for

837
01:19:19,679 --> 01:19:24,719
Harrison County.
>> Well, I could do it a number of ways and

838
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:28,960
again I'm certainly willing to entertain
a series of options. Number option

839
01:19:26,480 --> 01:19:33,360
number one could be to replicate exactly
what we did in Harrison County for the

840
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:39,840
65,000. So it's essentially what we
would do is we would introduce 10

841
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:43,760
additional videos and run a campaign
just in Harrison County. In our

842
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:48,880
partnership with Interaction Media, they
can uh promote the videos just within

843
01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:52,880
the boundaries of of Harrison County.
They could do that through social media.

844
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:57,360
Um I' I've worked with Meltwater
Midstreams, which manages uh social

845
01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:02,080
media campaigns. they have informed us
that 80% of the Harrison County

846
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:06,000
population is on Facebook and so that's
really where we've targeted folks. So if

847
01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:11,040
you wanted it to stay within the
boundaries, we could do that um you know

848
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:13,360
through a social media campaign that
would include billboards and other

849
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,000
things of that nature.
>> And that's just for our with our money.

850
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,640
That's correct. You're not going to use
the other money you statewide.

851
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,320
» Excuse me.
>> The the foundation's money you would use

852
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:26,400
statewide
>> which would also which would also be

853
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:29,920
inclusive of Harrison County. So
>> right.

854
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:34,640
» Yes. So if you envision drawing a state
a circle around the state that would be

855
01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:38,239
the West Virginia first funds, but in
the center of that obviously would be

856
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:42,880
funding that would go towards Harrison
County. So the campaign would overlap.

857
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,719
Um but obviously we would
>> but our money would go

858
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,560
» That's correct.
>> Stay home.

859
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:53,679
» Did you supply the county with a report
on the 65,000 and what you did and all

860
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:58,000
you got? So you have that report? Um, I
believe Michelle has it with the opioid

861
01:20:55,360 --> 01:21:01,840
promoting uh paperwork. I don't have
>> Have you submitted a business plan for

862
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:06,880
what you're asking for now? You know
what the money's going to be used for?

863
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:09,360
» So, I have a business per Well, I I have
a

864
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,280
I've not been asking.
>> You ask for a million dollars. What did

865
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:16,400
you lay out then give you millions of
dollars? That's what I'm asking.

866
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:21,520
» So, essentially,
>> yeah, that's a that's a fair question.

867
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:27,520
And what I would say is um the the
application process is such that we

868
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:32,880
can't apply and and suggest that we have
matching funds until we we've obtained

869
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:37,760
those funds. And so they informed me
that so yes, we have a business plan, a

870
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:43,040
business proposal. Um and that business
proposal includes

871
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:47,280
uh the concept that we would receive
matching funds from uh Harrison County

872
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:51,840
Commission.
>> So it breaks down how much is going out

873
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,960
to hire
>> Yes.

874
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:59,440
» outside people cost of
>> Yes.

875
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:01,440
» you all and your overhead all that.
>> Yes.

876
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:07,679
» Could we get a copy of that?
>> Sure. I mean not right now but happy to

877
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,679
provide it.

878
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:17,440
As far as the deadline goes, um it's a
it's a little bit tricky because I'm

879
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:21,520
applying there's there's different
rounds of funding. So, similar to the

880
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:25,280
more local level, there's rounds of
funding. We're not applying for rounds

881
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:29,199
of funding. We're we're applying for
something called a direct funding

882
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:34,480
request, which is outside the the
typical timeline. And so, their next

883
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:37,360
meeting is in September. So, um, that's
why you're seeing my face today is

884
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,639
because I'm trying to expedite the
process.

885
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:45,840
But again, I just want to reassure you
that I'm more than happy to provide that

886
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:50,320
information to you. I owe it to you. Um,
but this has to be vetted through the

887
01:22:48,719 --> 01:22:55,920
experts, the West Virginia First
Foundation. And so, if they see anything

888
01:22:53,120 --> 01:23:01,280
that doesn't look good, obviously
they'll just reject the entire proposal.

889
01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:05,199
» Well, these are the two experts here
that have to go through the same thing

890
01:23:03,679 --> 01:23:08,400
that they're doing.
>> Certainly. I I guess what makes it a

891
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:12,960
little bit challenging is that to share
the entire proposal with you, which I'm

892
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:18,480
more than happy to do. Um that is going
to be totally inclusive of what our plan

893
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:23,600
is statewide, but more locally and again
you have the ability to earark however

894
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:29,040
you want. So, if you said we're willing
to do it contingent on these variables,

895
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:34,000
uh, which were really outlined in our
initial proposal for the 65,000, which

896
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:38,719
was solely focused on Harrison County,
if you wanted to just replicate that,

897
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:43,199
then it would safeguard the funding for
Harrison County to be used exactly the

898
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,760
way and I I could provide more
deliverables.

899
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:49,360
» How's it affect your asking for the
million dollars if we want our

900
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:53,679
hundred,000 stay here? Because then it's
not part of your statewide program.

901
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:58,719
Well, I mean, it's part of the state, so
I would argue that

902
01:23:56,239 --> 01:24:02,880
» you have you approached them that if we
give you this 100,000, we don't want it

903
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:06,080
to be used for the statewide program.
>> In which case, I would say, okay, it's

904
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:10,239
not going to work out. I I get what
you're saying, but you know, I can only

905
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:14,719
play so much tennis with them regarding
back and forth of what if this, what if

906
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:20,000
this. They're looking for we have these
commitments and we want to see this

907
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:25,040
happen and if you could pull it off then
we'll consider it. Um so to go back for

908
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:28,239
them and and and make that I think
they're going to push back and say look

909
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:32,120
you're you're call they've already told
me I'm calling too much.

910
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:42,120
» Susan I think we need to find out where
our next funding is.

911
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:55,840
I'd like to revisit this after we get
the information from them and come to a

912
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:59,360
conclusion on the next meeting.
>> Could you clarify the specific

913
01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:02,080
information that you're requesting how
the Harrison County portion would be

914
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:08,159
used? Is that correct?
>> We're we're part of the state house.

915
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:09,760
» Okay. Could you clarify the question?
I'm sorry. I just don't quite

916
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:14,800
understand.
>> We give you 100,000. Yeah.

917
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:19,440
» And we keep it strictly to to Harrison
County. How's that going to be handled?

918
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,480
What's what what's what it's going to
cover? What we're going to get in return

919
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,280
for $100,000.
>> Okay,

920
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,520
that makes sense.
>> Let me come back in two weeks.

921
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,880
» Okay.
>> Too bad.

922
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:34,400
» And then we can figure out where we're
going to

923
01:25:32,639 --> 01:25:39,520
get the funds because before this
meeting's over, you're going to hear a

924
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:44,719
lot of large more numbers to be in uh 1
of July.

925
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:48,480
I mean, August, I guess we're just now
settling in and we got a lot of

926
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:52,480
expenses.
>> I understand. But as far as the opioid

927
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:56,719
funding goes, that is a
>> I agree and that's why I asked the

928
01:25:54,159 --> 01:26:01,120
opioid money's coming down the pipe
soon, then it makes a difference. If

929
01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:07,040
it's going to be another year out, it
makes it that makes a difference to us

930
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:11,840
on what we can financially do.
>> I appreciate that. So, I appreciate your

931
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:16,800
consideration. I'll send that to you uh
as soon as possible and um I'll see you

932
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:20,480
back in two weeks. Do I have to formally
request to be on the agenda again?

933
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,800
» No. Thank you guys.
>> Sure. He'll put him automatically on the

934
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:28,639
agenda.
>> Yeah, I'll mark on this paperwork that

935
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:33,520
tabled so to say. Um so I just confirmed
with Michelle that I was correct that we

936
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:37,280
don't there's like no schedule set for
the opioid funds. We usually receive a

937
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:42,400
letter a week or two before it's
deposited saying, "Hey, your next round

938
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:47,040
is coming." We'll make every effort to
call the state and find out exactly when

939
01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:50,199
to try to track it down. We can do that
for sure.

940
01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:53,800
» Good job.

941
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:59,440
» I mean, I like
>> Yeah.

942
01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:03,679
» Okay.
Now, we'll go to number two, consent

943
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:07,920
agenda. What's the pleasure? Move to
approve consent agenda.

944
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:12,080
» Motion to approve consent agenda. Any
discussion? Hearing none. All in favor

945
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:19,120
signify by saying I.
>> I. Any opposed? None. Motion carries.

946
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:23,320
Number three, payroll changes
A through N.

947
01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:32,159
What's the pleasure? How are
all this within our budget confine

948
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:35,120
confines that we passed?
We're not going to have to make any

949
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,679
adjustments.
>> No, we're not. I even double checked on

950
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:44,960
the openings just on the past this
agenda and last agenda. There's a total

951
01:27:41,679 --> 01:27:50,159
of three spots. Um, so all this falls
within our budgetary.

952
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,920
» So C falls in with what we were already
paying.

953
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:57,639
» I'm sorry, say that again.
>> C falls in with what we were already

954
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:57,639
paying. Yes.

955
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:04,440
» Age the same.
>> Yes.

956
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:14,960
» And the assessors
are all from Valon or they all from

957
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:19,159
general
>> um they're all from Val, sir.

958
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,320
questions.

959
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:38,560
» The only question I have, Sheriff, does
this bring you up to

960
01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:43,360
Where does this bring you? I'm
>> for law enforcement division.

961
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,760
We still have vacancies that we're
actively filling filling

962
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,560
» because you know what I'm thinking
about.

963
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:55,360
» Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're uh
>> And they are too. for sure. Um, so we've

964
01:28:52,880 --> 01:29:01,360
had resignations
um for better opportunities or bettering

965
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:05,760
themselves in their opinion. Um, we have
existing vacancies for deputy sheriff.

966
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:09,760
Uh,
and then with the resignations of

967
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:14,000
sergeants, we've we've promoted
sergeants

968
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:18,480
which created vacancies in the deputy
additional deputy. So,

969
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:21,920
» how many are you short right now?
Um

970
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:26,239
I think three or four.
>> Does that include the two that

971
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:28,719
» rail trail or I don't think that
includes

972
01:29:26,719 --> 01:29:33,920
» you have a list yet or you have to tell
>> we have an existing list. Uh I think

973
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:40,880
there's between five to seven that are
still on that current list.

974
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:45,679
We just requested three additional
deputy sheriff's uh

975
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:51,280
three additional candidates for the
deputy sheriff position from the civil

976
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:55,840
service commission um to to begin that
background process and it's you know

977
01:29:54,080 --> 01:30:03,360
it's it's extensive so it takes a little
while but um good news is one of them is

978
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:07,280
certified law enforcement the other
I'm sorry we just h we're looking to

979
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:11,520
hire certified law enforcement and a uh
uncert certified. So, the one will have

980
01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:16,639
to go to the academy. Good news is that
um we have two probationary deputies

981
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:19,920
that are graduating the state police
academy this this month. I think it's

982
01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:23,440
the 21st. So,
>> but they're not in that count, right?

983
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:28,480
» They're not That's Yeah, they're not in
in that count. So, we're working on it.

984
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:31,199
I know. I just I was just curious where
you were.

985
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:34,480
» Good thing is we got a good list. So,
that's you know, it's a good I think a

986
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,120
good thing.
>> Thank you.

987
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:40,280
» Yes.
So I

988
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:51,840
» move to approve payroll change notices A
through N.

989
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:57,199
» Motion to approve payroll change notices
A through N. Is there any discussion?

990
01:30:55,360 --> 01:31:03,199
Hearing none. All in favor signify by
saying I. I. Any opposed? Hearing none.

991
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:09,040
Motion carried.
Number four, we have minutes and or

992
01:31:06,480 --> 01:31:15,760
amended minutes of previous meetings A
through D. What's pleasure to approve

993
01:31:12,639 --> 01:31:20,080
minutes or amended minutes A through D
as presented?

994
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:25,280
» Motion to approve minutes and or amended
minutes of previous meetings A through D

995
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:30,880
as presented. Is there any discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor signify by

996
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:37,440
saying I. I. Any opposed? Hearing none.
Motion carried. Number five,

997
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:44,159
requisitions, purchase orders, invoices,
A, B, and C. What's the pleasure?

998
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:51,120
» Anything we need to discuss?
>> Well, did we find receipts for the one

999
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:54,000
Amazon requisition for it?
>> I believe they have come.

1000
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:57,000
» Can we find out?
>> Yes,

1001
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:02,440
» please. And thank you.

1002
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:11,600
was they turned to be a requisition with
nothing.

1003
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:15,520
» Uh my only comment is that I'd like to
see a better detail when something's

1004
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:21,239
being put on the rail trail as far as
location of where they're depositing

1005
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:26,960
and working.
>> Yes, sir. I've already talked to Annie

1006
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:34,400
about that. And the limestone sand was
used between Spelter and um North View

1007
01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:39,280
area. Yes to the Amazon receipt. They
have found it just

1008
01:32:36,639 --> 01:32:40,960
» Okay. But we need to do better in the
future.

1009
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:45,719
» Yes.
>> Okay. No, that's all I have.

1010
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:54,320
» Move to approve requisitions, purchase
orders, and invoices A, B, and C as

1011
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:59,040
presented.
>> Motion to approve requisition, purchase

1012
01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:03,440
orders, and invoices A through C as
presented. Is there any further

1013
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:07,600
discussion hearing? None. All in favor
signify by saying I. I.

1014
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:10,600
» Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion
carried.

1015
01:33:12,719 --> 01:33:19,520
First one.
>> Oh,

1016
01:33:18,239 --> 01:33:26,000
doesn't take much.
>> No. Okay, we have six. Exonerations,

1017
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:29,760
corrective tickets, joint property
applications. We have all three, it

1018
01:33:28,159 --> 01:33:33,280
looks like. Exoneration corrective
tickets and joint joint property.

1019
01:33:32,159 --> 01:33:37,840
» That is correct.
>> Move to approve 6 A, B and C as

1020
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:44,480
presented.
>> Motion to approve 6 A, B and C as

1021
01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:47,440
presented. Is there any discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor signify by

1022
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:50,639
saying I.
>> I.

1023
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:55,840
» I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion
carried. Number seven. Review discuss

1024
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:59,520
consider consideration of approval of a
project fund requisition for the payment

1025
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:04,560
of cost associated with the project to
be financed from proceeds of the series

1026
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:09,400
2008A Charles Point project number two
Northland Bay for 6A $16,627.

1027
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,280
What's the pleasure?

1028
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:23,840
» You know where this one's going.
>> I know. I just thought of

1029
01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:30,719
» 7 A for approval to approve 7A.
>> 7 A for approval. Motion. All in favor

1030
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:34,280
signify by saying I. I. Any opposed?
>> No.

1031
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,280
» Okay.

1032
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:41,600
Number eight. Review, discuss, consider
consideration of approval of a project

1033
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:45,280
fund requisition for the payment of cost
associated with the project to be

1034
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:49,600
financed from proceeds of the series
2019 A and B bonds issued for the

1035
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:55,560
Charles Point Economic Opportunity
Development District.

1036
01:34:51,679 --> 01:34:55,560
We have one for $7,196.

1037
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:04,840
» Move to approve 8A.
>> Motion to approve 8A.

1038
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:04,840
Is there any discussion?

1039
01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:13,239
Okay. All in favor signify by saying I.
I. Opposed.

1040
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:20,960
» Number nine. Review, discuss, consider
consideration of approval of a project

1041
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:24,800
fund requisition for the payment of cost
associated with the project to be

1042
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:30,080
financed from proceeds of the series
2021A and B development district number

1043
01:35:27,679 --> 01:35:34,719
three, White Oaks project number two for
$250.

1044
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:38,719
What's the pleasure? Move to approve 9A.
>> Motion to approve 9A. All in favor

1045
01:35:37,199 --> 01:35:40,800
signify by saying I.
>> I.

1046
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:45,600
» I. Any opposed?
>> Okay. Motion carried.

1047
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:52,040
» Number 10. Review, discuss, consider
contract for services with Total

1048
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:52,040
Assessments Solutions.

1049
01:35:53,360 --> 01:36:00,560
» Madam President, Jerry Wisdom is on
Zoom. Should you have any questions for

1050
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:05,280
him?
I know Trey has looked at the contract.

1051
01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:11,760
He had some comments. I did forward that
out over to Mr. Wisdom and also um we

1052
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,920
did receive an email from the assessor
yesterday since he is unable to be here

1053
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:18,760
today.
>> And have you had a chance to look at

1054
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,760
that?

1055
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:26,800
» Yes.
>> Okay. Where I mean

1056
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:32,080
I haven't been able to digest that
letter yet, but where is that going to

1057
01:36:29,679 --> 01:36:37,360
lead? I mean,
are we going to be I don't know.

1058
01:36:35,199 --> 01:36:46,600
Do we need to take a little more time to
review and consider what

1059
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:46,600
» he sent us yesterday?

1060
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:52,880
» Think the issue is
>> commissioners, he would like that to be

1061
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:56,560
put of record if at all possible. He he
wanted to be here for any information.

1062
01:36:54,800 --> 01:37:02,400
and he's dropping his son for military
duty, but in the effort for assessing

1063
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:06,639
fairly and equally for all taxpayers, he
wanted to make sure that that

1064
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:10,880
information is just provided from the
other side of the issue because there

1065
01:37:08,480 --> 01:37:16,960
are multiple sides of those aspects.
>> I had thought Mr. Wisdom, and he can

1066
01:37:13,679 --> 01:37:20,159
correct me if I'm wrong, had spoken with
Mr. Free regarding this matter.

1067
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:24,800
» No.
>> Um, that's what I was kind of led to

1068
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:27,360
believe in. I know he talked he said he
had talked to Allan but I don't know

1069
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:30,560
maybe it was a completely different
subject when we all

1070
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:35,280
» he stopped he stopped in and spoke with
me when Allan wasn't there one day and

1071
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:39,679
um he nothing was decided he didn't
speak with the the assessor

1072
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:43,760
» because that's what I took that
>> that was why he yeah prepared this

1073
01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:47,600
information for you all to make you know
your decision to help

1074
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:51,520
» I mean I thought Allan had already been
>> yeah involved in this

1075
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:55,040
» none of the
>> no there's just multiple aspect Okay.

1076
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:58,800
I'm not I don't want to I'm not here to
start trouble. I just want to make sure

1077
01:37:57,199 --> 01:38:02,880
» I just want you all to Absolutely.
>> He was not involved in this

1078
01:38:00,639 --> 01:38:05,880
» before.
>> Absolutely.

1079
01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:12,480
» Yes. I haven't seen this letter dated
August 4th, 2026. I don't see why the

1080
01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:16,320
commission would have any objection to
making it part of the record.

1081
01:38:14,719 --> 01:38:21,119
can certainly take it into consideration
and look at the issues raised by the

1082
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:25,119
assessor in the August 4th, 2026
correspondence and report back. That's

1083
01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:28,080
what the commission's directive is
today.

1084
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:33,520
» I mean, that's what I would like to see.
I don't know about my other

1085
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:37,119
commissioner, but
>> there was a date that they were worried

1086
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:42,480
about
and it had to be that he wanted to start

1087
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:48,639
before I think it had to do with the
next t next

1088
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:52,639
» he's probably looking at the 27 tax year
which would have already been passed

1089
01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:58,159
with the July one date. So, it would be
a situation picking things up for a 28

1090
01:38:55,199 --> 01:39:03,840
tax year at this point, but it's not
it's like I say dealt with in multiple

1091
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:07,159
counties at this point that we were
concerned about.

1092
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:13,920
» I just like would like us to look into
what Allan said here before we move.

1093
01:39:12,639 --> 01:39:17,360
» Absolutely.
>> Absolutely.

1094
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:22,239
» Just as a precaution.
>> Yes. Well, I think it'd be nice if,

1095
01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:26,000
pardon me, if Allan was here to talk
about this in a commission meeting. If

1096
01:39:24,719 --> 01:39:34,080
y'all were going to go down the route
with TASC, I think that's critical.

1097
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:37,920
» I would concur.
>> As I said, he he wished to be here. He

1098
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:41,600
had to drop his son for military duties.
>> I did it. So, I get that.

1099
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:46,679
» If you can, however you would like to,
I'm sure he'd be happy to to speak on

1100
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,679
the matter.

1101
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,800
That could be lawsuits.
>> There already.

1102
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:54,080
» That's what um
>> there already are.

1103
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:57,199
» I know. I mean, I'm aware of that and
that's what I'd like to know more

1104
01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:00,080
information from
>> that side of it.

1105
01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:03,840
» Yes, absolutely.
>> That's just me speaking.

1106
01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:08,880
» Yeah. And there also have been lawsuits
where for years the producers have

1107
01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:11,440
challenged,
>> right?

1108
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:15,440
» How many years were we in lawsuits at
the Supreme Court level with them? So

1109
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:19,679
it's it's goose and gander rule in terms
of looking at that perspective of it.

1110
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:24,920
But I think Allan needs to be intimately
involved in the the review of this

1111
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,920
relationship

1112
01:40:25,679 --> 01:40:31,280
» and I was
>> we agree I think it's dependent upon a

1113
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:36,960
lot the state tax department also has an
input on that and issues to where seems

1114
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:43,040
like there should be discussion between
many.

1115
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:47,800
We hear that as well. So, I would like
to see us table this until the next

1116
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,800
meeting.

1117
01:40:55,760 --> 01:41:03,040
I can make that motion. I will make that
motion that we table 10 for the contract

1118
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:09,840
for services with total assessment
solutions until we can the assessor can

1119
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:15,760
be present to speak to this or
Um, I'm okay with tableing it, but I

1120
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:19,119
won't bring it back up in two weeks.
>> Well, that's what

1121
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:23,360
» I think we've given our bailout.
>> I was already just to get this letter

1122
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:27,520
last night.
>> Well, that's

1123
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:32,639
» this I felt was a a bomb or whatever
attempted was dropped on us. Uh, this

1124
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:37,520
could have been given us to us weeks ago
so we could had discussions so that we

1125
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:41,679
didn't end up in this situation today.
So, I'm not I'm not real happy I

1126
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:44,320
received this letter last minute the way
it came in.

1127
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:48,159
» Understood.
>> Especially when we're sitting here

1128
01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:53,280
trying to decide a contract to try to
maybe increase tax base of the county

1129
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:58,320
and increase tax dollars collected to
receive this letter the night before.

1130
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:00,639
That was
that was just

1131
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:03,840
» and I don't disagree with that either.
>> That was just

1132
01:42:02,639 --> 01:42:09,199
» I mean the agenda I mean if you didn't
know about agenda it has been out.

1133
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:12,880
So, just to receive that is the way it
was. But I'm okay, Susan.

1134
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:15,440
» Okay.
>> Putting it back on the agenda in two

1135
01:42:14,719 --> 01:42:17,520
weeks.
>> Okay.

1136
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:23,920
» And
uh at that point, everybody now has

1137
01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:26,800
noticed it's two weeks.
>> Yes.

1138
01:42:24,639 --> 01:42:32,880
» Well, come talk to us. Come talk to us.
But or talk to us in the in between time

1139
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:39,040
and Trey, you'll take a look at these.
But other counties are doing it.

1140
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:43,280
They're being successful. So
>> there's Yeah, there is. There's three

1141
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:46,400
and two with with pending lawsuits. I
mean,

1142
01:42:43,679 --> 01:42:50,080
» yes. To pay money that they don't think
they don't know, they're going to tell

1143
01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:54,320
you take it. So I mean that's just
>> and just from doing oil and gas for 33

1144
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:58,560
years as I had for this county, I know
that this is impendent upon a situation

1145
01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:02,159
where if the tax department is going to
have to make some sort of a decision, is

1146
01:43:00,480 --> 01:43:06,320
it being assessed here? Is it not being
assessed here? That's I mean that's just

1147
01:43:04,719 --> 01:43:11,760
a question that I don't know the answer
to you know but they do and that's to me

1148
01:43:09,679 --> 01:43:13,840
it's dependent upon a number of I'd like
to hear their

1149
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:18,080
» side of this too.
>> Right. Right. So okay my motion was I

1150
01:43:16,719 --> 01:43:21,440
don't even know if I said table to put
on next week.

1151
01:43:19,119 --> 01:43:26,159
» You said table on
>> Okay. Then I will send my motion and put

1152
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:28,880
it just put it back on the agenda in two
weeks

1153
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:33,760
» and you'll let him know.
>> Absolutely.

1154
01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:38,159
» Thank you. Number 11, review, discuss,
consider Harrison County IT Department

1155
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:41,440
potential executive session to consider
matters arising from the appointment,

1156
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:46,080
employment, retirement, production,
transfer, demotion, disciplining,

1157
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:51,920
resignation, discharge, dismissal, or
compensation of a public officer or

1158
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:55,320
employee or prospective public officer
or employee.

1159
01:43:56,239 --> 01:44:05,960
» Motion to go into executive session.
>> Motion to go into executive session. All

1160
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:05,960
in favor signify by saying I

1161
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:11,000
» add that to the motion.

1162
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:26,360
Okay. Motion carried.
Number 12. Review, discuss, consider

1163
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:26,360
hiring two IT interns.

1164
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:36,719
» Move to approve hiring two interns.
Motion to approve firing two interns.

1165
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:39,920
Any discussion?
All in favor signify by saying I.

1166
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:45,360
» I.
>> Any opposed? Hear none. Motion carried.

1167
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:48,360
Review. Discuss. Consider employee
handbook.

1168
01:44:53,520 --> 01:45:02,480
Move to approve.
Approving the employee personnel

1169
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:10,159
policies and procedures handbook for the
Harrison County Commission as presented.

1170
01:45:06,639 --> 01:45:16,480
Motion to approve the Harrison County
handbook, employee handbook as

1171
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:22,560
presented. Is there any discussion? I
have just a few comments I would like to

1172
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:28,800
make. And
I hate it that I had to read I'm not I I

1173
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:35,199
wanted to read it, but I hated not to
know some stuff that was in there.

1174
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:42,239
Um especially everybody knows where I'm
at with changing the paydays.

1175
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:46,639
Um I have spoken with
several of the elected officials and

1176
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:50,480
they say they're okay with it. I'm still
concerned with the employees changing

1177
01:45:48,719 --> 01:45:55,280
their paydays. Talked to Rachel. I
talked to the sheriff. Um I hope this

1178
01:45:53,199 --> 01:46:01,119
works because I know I went through this
years ago and it wasn't pleasant.

1179
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:06,719
So, and there's a couple other things in
there that I won't bring up, but I'm not

1180
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:10,800
going to oppose it. Um I will vote to
pass it. I just hope it's it works.

1181
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:19,840
That's all. I just had to say something
about it. Well, just just to that Susan,

1182
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:24,800
it is a living document. It's not that
>> but now it can still cause heartburn in

1183
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:28,080
the meantime and then heartburn again if
we do something else.

1184
01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:31,520
» No argument there, but it's it's a
living document. It's something that's

1185
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:37,119
always going to change. It's something
that we

1186
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:42,639
have avoided for
how many years now since last time we

1187
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:45,600
did it. I think it was done in 14
addendum to it in 16.

1188
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:51,040
» Yeah. So,
>> oh, I know it's long overdue, but just

1189
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:54,320
out of the blue. No, who who who
complained about the time the pay period

1190
01:46:52,719 --> 01:46:59,600
the paydays? I don't know. I never heard
any complaints. So,

1191
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:05,440
» I just think it was bringing us up to
what is pretty much a standard. So,

1192
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:10,719
» but that's okay. So,
one comment because you're changing pay

1193
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:13,040
» and I hope it's legal because I meant to
check the code.

1194
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:17,840
» Well, I just want you all to make sure
you give the employees adequate notice

1195
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:23,760
before you make the first new pay under
the policy. So, when do you want to make

1196
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:27,360
the first new pay and start the process?
And how are you going to give notice to

1197
01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:31,040
the employees?
>> This is another thing that I want to

1198
01:47:28,719 --> 01:47:34,239
bring up. Just when you bring that up,
>> I don't want to digress, but I just

1199
01:47:32,480 --> 01:47:39,520
» I don't want to digress either, but when
you do these things, you need to bring

1200
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:45,520
everybody that's involved in the process
into the discussions. That was not done

1201
01:47:41,679 --> 01:47:48,800
either. So, in the future, please, you
bring everybody that's involved in

1202
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:54,400
payroll.
Like, again, I I I know where I'm coming

1203
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:58,880
from because I've been there um before.
JD, I think you have payroll

1204
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:04,159
information.
>> Yeah.

1205
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:07,040
Yeah. So, as far as uh getting it out to
all the employees, we will send out

1206
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:10,159
notice. We're looking at at least a
month, a month and a half before we ever

1207
01:48:08,639 --> 01:48:14,000
even implement it.
>> Okay. I'm sorry. I don't mean to

1208
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:17,360
interrupt you, but I'm hearing that we
are ahead in the hours right now. So,

1209
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:21,199
we're going to have to take some time to
catch up.

1210
01:48:18,159 --> 01:48:23,760
» Yeah. Yeah. So, are we gonna get with
John and his department to make sure we

1211
01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:26,880
know?
>> I will 100% go through Courtney and them

1212
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:29,600
make sure that everything's
>> Oh, I said John.

1213
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:32,239
» John, we'll make sure that it's a smooth
process. Okay. Of no hiccups,

1214
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:36,000
» okay?
>> And like I said, I mean, I'm I'm talking

1215
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:38,960
with Courtney and Erica and I'll give
John, we'll make sure the process is

1216
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:42,320
done correctly and then the notices
we'll send out and we can even send out

1217
01:48:40,639 --> 01:48:45,360
a letter to all the employees if we're
that's the way we're going to go that

1218
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:50,080
says, "Hey, we're changing it to this."
>> I wish we'd have done this before today,

1219
01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:52,800
but that's okay. Here
I am and I'm going to say yes, but go

1220
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:56,080
ahead and I'll shut up.
>> No, you're fine. You're you're okay. But

1221
01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:59,440
we we'll get adequate notice out to him
and make sure that everything's on par

1222
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:02,880
with it and it's taken care of. And like
David said, this is a living and

1223
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:07,520
breathing document. We can change it
anytime we need to change it. So, it's

1224
01:49:05,440 --> 01:49:11,440
not set in stone for the next 25 years
and you can't ever change it. If it if

1225
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:14,320
it doesn't work, we can change it.
>> And I know not everybody's going to be

1226
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,679
happy. Believe me, I learned that a long
time.

1227
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:19,760
» Ecstatic about it. And there's going to
be people that don't like it. And I mean

1228
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:23,360
that's the way the world works. Um but
we the majority of the people that I

1229
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:27,280
spoke to that they're happy with that
going in that process. So there's a lot

1230
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:30,560
of really good things in the handbook
and I'm glad that you didn't table or

1231
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:33,440
something just because of one thing. So
I do appreciate

1232
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:38,080
» I'm I'm I'm not that I'm not that big.
>> I appreciate it. It it I do.

1233
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:41,520
» So and if you have any other questions
about or anything I mean

1234
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:47,040
» I'm just here for the employees that do
I mean

1235
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:51,360
Anything
else from JD? David?

1236
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:57,520
» Yep.
>> Okay. So, actually, we don't really know

1237
01:49:53,920 --> 01:50:01,760
when we're going to start this yet.
>> Start like the process of it. Um, I'm

1238
01:50:00,639 --> 01:50:04,239
going to start looking at it next week
and then I'll get with John and then see

1239
01:50:03,119 --> 01:50:08,480
what we need to do. Then we'll have to
get with P. We'll go through that

1240
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:12,000
process. We'll start the actual process
probably next week or the following

1241
01:50:09,679 --> 01:50:14,400
week. Nothing's in stone when it will be
implemented. When you're saying process,

1242
01:50:13,679 --> 01:50:18,000
what? Oh, okay.
>> Getting a hold of going through John

1243
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:21,679
» implementation. Yeah.
>> We're not sure.

1244
01:50:19,119 --> 01:50:24,480
» Pick some dates. So, those are all
false.

1245
01:50:22,239 --> 01:50:26,800
» Yeah. Yeah. Make it make it as smooth as
possible.

1246
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,159
» And it'll be based on the hours that
have already been

1247
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,360
» Yep.
>> Okay.

1248
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:34,320
» Yep.
>> As an elected official, can I ask that

1249
01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:38,480
maybe a calendar be provided notice of
when the pay will fall so that they can

1250
01:50:36,639 --> 01:50:42,080
see that understand that?
>> No problem. So, I already have I already

1251
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:45,199
have one printed up moving forward from
like next week. No, it's not going to be

1252
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:49,040
in place next week, but I have one going
all the way in 2027. So,

1253
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:52,239
» as soon as we finalize it and we get it
done, I'll send out that mass calendar

1254
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:55,440
to everybody and you can print it off
and then we probably could actually do

1255
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:58,800
something on Paycom that sends an alert
or something or I can at least send out

1256
01:50:57,119 --> 01:51:04,600
emails for the first two months saying,
"Hey, this is when you're getting paid."

1257
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:04,600
Just so they're aware.

1258
01:51:06,639 --> 01:51:12,560
» Okay. Any further discussion?
>> Hearing ma'am.

1259
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:14,000
» Hearing none. All in favor signify by
saying I.

1260
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:17,679
» I.
>> I.

1261
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:23,560
» Any opposed.
>> Hearing none. Motion carried.

1262
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:23,560
Okay.

1263
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:32,360
14.
Review, discuss, consider tearing down

1264
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:32,360
the annex portion of the courthouse.

1265
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:38,960
» I believe you talked to the
commissioner.

1266
01:51:36,639 --> 01:51:44,560
» Yes. So, um, this was Commissioner Tree
cost item. He asked me, um, we had a

1267
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:50,239
discussion about it and pretty much what
he wants is a plan moving forward. I did

1268
01:51:47,599 --> 01:51:54,800
tell him yesterday that I had a
conversation with McKinley. Um Michelle

1269
01:51:52,400 --> 01:52:01,199
and I talked to them the day before and
there's a chance that it will cost more

1270
01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:07,760
to selective demo that building and
leave like the first floor than it would

1271
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:14,320
be to um just repair the building in
general. So

1272
01:52:10,719 --> 01:52:19,360
I believe it was his wish that um we
just get a plan and really look through

1273
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:22,960
this instead of it paying costing 10
million to tear down. We disc 5 million.

1274
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:25,520
I'm just throwing these numbers out
there that that's not what McKinley

1275
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:30,960
discussed with me, but they're easy
numbers. Five million to repair it or 10

1276
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:35,719
million to tear it down.
>> Have you seen this, Susan?

1277
01:52:32,239 --> 01:52:35,719
» Yes, I have.

1278
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:43,119
» Um,
>> that's why I think we need to look at

1279
01:52:39,599 --> 01:52:46,320
that building before we do anything.
I've been saying that for

1280
01:52:44,719 --> 01:52:51,599
» well as long as I've been here and I've
been saying the there's water leaking

1281
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:55,199
and we finally but we still haven't got
anybody to look at that yet have we

1282
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:58,080
» or
>> the root

1283
01:52:56,480 --> 01:53:01,840
» uh McKinley's working on that
>> they're working on it

1284
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:06,560
» two weeks ago or how many ever weeks ago
we talked about this

1285
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:11,199
» and McKinley is online um if you have
questions directly for them David Kroo

1286
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:17,679
is
>> and that It's been leaking for years and

1287
01:53:14,480 --> 01:53:23,199
since before I was in this position and
it's still leaking and I've been here

1288
01:53:20,159 --> 01:53:28,159
for six almost six years trying to get
something done.

1289
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:32,960
So again, we don't maintain the
buildings and if you don't maintain

1290
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:37,520
them, they're going to fall down.
So I'm with Commissioner Treeos to try

1291
01:53:35,679 --> 01:53:43,920
to figure out what we can do if we can
do anything with that building.

1292
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:53,440
Well, I would just like to enter in
a March 16, 2018 from MES report

1293
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:59,040
that the courthouse annex
has had foundation and structural

1294
01:53:55,520 --> 01:54:03,920
problems since its initial construction.
Based on past file information, historic

1295
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:08,560
photographs taken during construction
and the resulting lawsuits against the

1296
01:54:06,159 --> 01:54:13,280
building's architect, structural
engineer, and contractor. The building's

1297
01:54:10,639 --> 01:54:17,280
westside foundation was compromised at
the time of construction.

1298
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:22,159
The corrective action at that time was
to reduce the building's floor loading

1299
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:27,199
to accommodate the compromised
foundation.

1300
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:31,679
This compromised foundation results can
be seen in the settlement and cracking

1301
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:34,679
of the building's west side walls and
foundation.

1302
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:45,119
Evidently, there was lawsuits. Nobody
ever seems to be able to find them.

1303
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:49,520
Nobody was able to find
what corrective actions were taken, if

1304
01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:54,239
any,
to show that there isn't a compromised

1305
01:54:51,679 --> 01:54:58,880
foundation.
It goes on to say that we discovered the

1306
01:54:56,480 --> 01:55:03,119
building's westside foundation design
construction problems. The building's

1307
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:08,880
central and east area foundations were
redesigned, thus providing a foundation

1308
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:13,599
that they think addressed the poor site
subsoil conditions. The result of these

1309
01:55:11,199 --> 01:55:18,360
activities are evident by substantially
less cracking on that side of the

1310
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:18,360
building.

1311
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:25,440
But the building's
foundation has reached an equilibrium

1312
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:30,080
they feel.
So there won't be any future crack

1313
01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:36,960
intercept.
So back when that building was built,

1314
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:45,440
they knew they had issues, proceeded
with it, but I asked staff to find out

1315
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:49,520
about the lawsuits
against the architects, the engineer,

1316
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:56,599
and the contractor, what the corrective
actions were, and those seem to have

1317
01:55:53,599 --> 01:55:56,599
disappeared.

1318
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:08,520
We were not able to find anything and
also the circuit clerk's office helped

1319
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:08,520
look for some we weren't able to find.

1320
01:56:09,199 --> 01:56:14,440
Maybe it was a copy and paste from
another just

1321
01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:27,239
so I would just like that put into the
record.

1322
01:56:24,239 --> 01:56:27,239
Um,

1323
01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:41,679
as far as tearing it down,
um, I think that's being kind to it.

1324
01:56:37,199 --> 01:56:50,000
Uh so my motion would be to
uh not necessarily have in-house do it

1325
01:56:45,119 --> 01:56:54,480
but have uh go out to bid for companies
that do demolition

1326
01:56:52,239 --> 01:57:00,320
and interview companies that do
demolition and then have them then we

1327
01:56:57,199 --> 01:57:04,480
pick a company that does demolition
and have them take a look to see what

1328
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:09,199
the cost would be to them that
I think

1329
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:12,800
no point using our in-house engineers. I
think we need to go straight to

1330
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:18,400
demolition experts.
>> Should could the engineers not tell us

1331
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:21,400
if it needs to be demolished?
>> Uh

1332
01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:29,520
I don't know how they could tell you
but whether it needs to be demolished.

1333
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:33,040
» Well, what is a demolishing into
whatever they're called?

1334
01:57:31,599 --> 01:57:36,000
They're able to tell us if it needs
demolished or they can demolish it or if

1335
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:39,440
we're going to demolish how much it's
>> can't give us how much it's going to

1336
01:57:37,199 --> 01:57:43,119
cost. That's their that's what they do.
There no point putting a third party or

1337
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:47,400
another party in between us and the
companies that demolish building.

1338
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:55,199
» Is that your motion?
>> Yes, ma'am.

1339
01:57:50,800 --> 01:58:00,480
» Okay. The motion is to seek somebody a
cost of demolishing

1340
01:57:57,599 --> 01:58:03,199
the annex completely clear down to the
ground.

1341
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:06,560
» Think we'd leave that up to the uh
experts on whether or not would have to

1342
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:10,800
go all the way down or how they whether
or not they could do it in steps and

1343
01:58:09,679 --> 01:58:14,000
save part of it.
>> Okay.

1344
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:18,560
» That's that's what they would that's
what they do for a living. So I think we

1345
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:22,000
find a demo company.
>> Um

1346
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:25,840
» give us a price. Any further discussion
on the motion

1347
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:31,000
hearing? None. All in favor signify by
saying I. I.

1348
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:31,000
» Any oppose? No.

1349
01:58:33,599 --> 01:58:42,719
Number 15. Review, discuss, consider
commission stance valley link power

1350
01:58:40,159 --> 01:58:52,239
transmission project.
I had originally requested a resolution

1351
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:56,800
opposing the um Valley Link power line
and my understanding is we had somebody

1352
01:58:54,320 --> 01:59:00,400
that wanted one in favor. Is that
correct? Is that what I'm hearing?

1353
01:58:58,239 --> 01:59:04,960
» I was asked to provide one in favor.
Okay. And as well as yours.

1354
01:59:02,719 --> 01:59:11,840
» Well, that's my stance. I would like for
us to move forward with the resolution

1355
01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:17,480
um opposing the Valley Link transmission
line

1356
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:17,480
and I will make that motion.

1357
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:26,080
So all in favor signify by saying I
>> like discussion.

1358
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:33,440
» Okay.
>> Uh today we heard from a lot of people

1359
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:39,880
on how it will affect you.
Uh,

1360
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:39,880
I've read the

1361
01:59:41,679 --> 01:59:45,560
I haven't at the moment.

1362
01:59:52,639 --> 01:59:56,599
the resolution opposing

1363
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:10,960
some of the things that concern me
as it's going to we say we're going to

1364
02:00:06,639 --> 02:00:15,679
impose a cost upon local government
but are not offset by the project's

1365
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:23,520
benefits. I'm not sure what cost local
governments will

1366
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:29,199
see due to this being built
in a diminishing county tax base.

1367
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:36,400
Uh
not heard any

1368
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:41,360
proof that that would happen.
uh the land is being considered as

1369
02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:50,840
farmland and is right now it's taxed at
the lowest possible tax rate. So it's

1370
02:00:45,679 --> 02:00:50,840
kind of not going to change tax base.

1371
02:00:54,719 --> 02:01:06,239
I think that uh for us to truly be fair
to all parties

1372
02:01:01,679 --> 02:01:10,800
and it's never been set up is for
the

1373
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:16,800
company that wants to come in and
build the power. We've not heard that.

1374
02:01:14,639 --> 02:01:23,719
We've heard from you public people that
are affected.

1375
02:01:18,719 --> 02:01:23,719
Uh I appreciate what you've said.

1376
02:01:25,119 --> 02:01:32,040
I would like to see us
hear from them,

1377
02:01:32,159 --> 02:01:42,599
but it seems that we are
as a commission not interested in

1378
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:42,599
hearing their side of it.

1379
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:48,360
I don't know how many of y'all read
this,

1380
02:01:52,239 --> 02:01:58,040
but
Um

1381
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:03,840
I would have liked to heard the other
side.

1382
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:09,760
» Well, there were two meetings. I believe
we had two

1383
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:12,400
I was a meeting. They were they came and
spoke.

1384
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:17,679
» They came to the commission.
>> Well, you were invited to the meetings

1385
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:21,760
that they came here.
>> No, I mean for the commission to talk to

1386
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:26,280
them.
Well, I was welcome to ask them

1387
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:26,280
questions.

1388
02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:33,760
» So,
what questions did you ask?

1389
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:38,719
» I don't recall.
>> Okay.

1390
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:44,400
» But I have spoken with Mr. Fallon and
asked him questions about the various

1391
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:48,239
things that was discussed today and he
does you know down the road with the

1392
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:51,440
county will will it'll be years before
the county sees a benefit in any kind of

1393
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:57,360
power.
Um, and he doesn't give any definite

1394
02:02:54,480 --> 02:03:00,880
answers when I ask specific questions
such as the ones I've heard today with

1395
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:05,119
the metal roofs and if you touch your
downspout,

1396
02:03:02,639 --> 02:03:11,119
um, you'll get electrocuted.
Um, I've heard a lot of that and I also

1397
02:03:09,119 --> 02:03:15,760
was at a meeting where several counties
that are involved. We had a discussion

1398
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:22,159
about this and there are several
counties that are outside of

1399
02:03:19,599 --> 02:03:27,280
our area. It's not Parson County. I
mean, these were some other counties

1400
02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:31,560
that are in this lot and one county
actually is going to have two going

1401
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:31,560
through.

1402
02:03:31,599 --> 02:03:42,400
So I guess I'm gonna talk to one of the
issues is uh I think trade

1403
02:03:38,719 --> 02:03:48,920
saw where somebody asked you a uh answer
as far or question as far as farmland

1404
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:48,920
protection

1405
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:56,960
and you gave a opinion.
Yeah, I was asked a question about

1406
02:03:55,040 --> 02:04:02,400
imminent domain and condemnation and
whether the statute for farmland

1407
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:09,199
protection was insulated from those
types of remedies and it's not. The

1408
02:04:05,679 --> 02:04:14,159
statute does allow for
force taking a property um subject to

1409
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:17,280
the party's right to litigate over
valuation.

1410
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:21,920
That's just the West Virginia statute
for farmland protection. It's carved out

1411
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:24,920
within the framework.
Any

1412
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:30,560
questions about that?
>> So, no. I understand what you're saying

1413
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:34,639
that in the domain,
>> nobody's exempt.

1414
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:40,679
» Nobody's exempt.
>> There's not be would we be exempt if we

1415
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:40,679
had zoned this property?

1416
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:51,599
» Oh my, that's a broad question. Um,
zoning would

1417
02:04:46,639 --> 02:04:59,760
or could impact a number of things. Um,
I still don't think it would exempt

1418
02:04:54,960 --> 02:05:07,199
a force taking if a FUK or um
justification exists through a federal

1419
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:11,119
regulatory process, but it would change
valuation, it could change modeling, it

1420
02:05:09,199 --> 02:05:14,119
could change depiction.
Um,

1421
02:05:14,239 --> 02:05:23,960
all sorts of questions stem from that.
So zoning probably would have held like

1422
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:23,960
this.

1423
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:32,320
» They're still going to have at the end
of the day the regulatory power

1424
02:05:29,599 --> 02:05:38,239
to condemn our imminent domain. It
exists. Everybody in this room knows it

1425
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:41,840
exists and that's part of the utility
process. It's not going to just

1426
02:05:39,679 --> 02:05:47,040
disappear and the legislature decided
not to make it disappear in the context

1427
02:05:44,719 --> 02:05:53,560
of farmland protection. They could have
decided that in Charleston or tried to

1428
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:53,560
and they didn't do that.

1429
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:15,560
All my questions

1430
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:26,400
All in favor of motion to pass a
resolution

1431
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:30,320
opposing the transmission power line and
the fix appropriate signatures. Signify

1432
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:36,840
by saying I.
>> Just one question you have on you have

1433
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:36,840
all three commissioners.

1434
02:06:37,679 --> 02:06:45,440
» So is it going to be by commissioners or
by commission? Well, I said a fix the

1435
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:50,760
appropriate signatures, I believe.
>> Just wanted to clarify that.

1436
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:50,760
» Okay.

1437
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:59,520
» So, I apologize. Call vote. M.
>> Okay. All in favor signify by saying I.

1438
02:06:57,119 --> 02:07:05,320
» I. Any opposed?
>> Hearing none. Motion carried.

1439
02:07:02,079 --> 02:07:05,320
Thank you.

1440
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:15,880
Okay. Number 16. review, discuss,
consider approving the graft entire

1441
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:15,880
lease.

1442
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:23,119
» Madame President, what you have in front
of you is uh the lease that we've been

1443
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:26,560
going back and forth and towards the end
it's mainly been Trey going back and

1444
02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:30,079
forth with Verizon dealing with the
lease that we have um on the grafting

1445
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:33,840
Tower site.
>> This is the guy that keeps emailing me

1446
02:07:32,159 --> 02:07:41,599
this to sign. Is this
>> correct? Okay. And so in your packet you

1447
02:07:37,599 --> 02:07:46,800
will see the changes um that Trey has
made to the document,

1448
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:52,639
his recommendations
of it. You have the redline copy and

1449
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:56,400
then of course the clear copy. So Trey
can speak more on this, but it was our

1450
02:07:54,480 --> 02:08:01,599
thought process that the commission
approved this, send it to Verizon and

1451
02:07:58,719 --> 02:08:05,280
let them approve it on their side or
come back with our questions and

1452
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:09,599
comments instead of
going back and forth.

1453
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:14,719
» So, this is part of a national campaign
by Verizon to reduce their rent

1454
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:17,199
obligation on tower leases across the
country.

1455
02:08:16,239 --> 02:08:23,040
It's part of what's called the
firecracker program at Verizon. I took

1456
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:27,440
what they proposed. I built in a penalty
if they terminated the lease early if

1457
02:08:24,719 --> 02:08:32,000
they'd pay 18 months rent up front. We
increased the rider to a more

1458
02:08:29,679 --> 02:08:40,320
commercially reasonable rate from 2% to
4% in terms of annual increases on rent.

1459
02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:43,840
We eliminated rent credits and if they
would ever seek to do this again, the

1460
02:08:42,079 --> 02:08:48,079
lease would revert back to the prior
2013. I thought there should be should

1461
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:54,480
be some penalty if they try to further
renegotiate down their tower agreement.

1462
02:08:52,079 --> 02:08:59,199
My other thought was we could demand an
upfront buy down from them and see if

1463
02:08:57,520 --> 02:09:02,719
they want to pay some kind of money for
this amendment, some difference between

1464
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:06,880
their reduction and what they were going
to pay. I did not include that in here,

1465
02:09:05,119 --> 02:09:09,880
but I'm happy to do that if you all want
to.

1466
02:09:12,639 --> 02:09:21,679
This lease renews annually
or is it a month 18 month 18 months? No,

1467
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:24,960
it's a multi-
>> multi years.

1468
02:09:23,119 --> 02:09:28,639
» It's a multi-year
>> shall be for

1469
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:33,280
» fiveyear terms and they're buying the
right to extend it for four additional

1470
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:36,760
fiveyear terms
per this amendment.

1471
02:09:38,239 --> 02:09:45,440
There are other ways to approach it as
well. You can do it based upon number of

1472
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:51,679
antennas or number of units or pete on a
tower. None of that's in your historic

1473
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:54,560
lease agreement expressly other than the
exhibit.

1474
02:09:52,880 --> 02:10:00,560
» So there's no limit on the amount of
antennas that they can place.

1475
02:09:56,639 --> 02:10:03,840
» Not currently in your lease. No,
that's how they generate revenue. I mean

1476
02:10:03,119 --> 02:10:09,119
they
>> they generate revenue.

1477
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:13,040
» Yes. Yeah. I mean I'm not a big fan of
them coming and asking for a rent

1478
02:10:10,639 --> 02:10:17,520
reduction. It's just a question of are
they going to leave the tower? I don't

1479
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:21,679
personally feel like they do. This is
part of a national campaign to reduce

1480
02:10:20,239 --> 02:10:27,040
their rent obligation.
>> How much are they trying to reduce it?

1481
02:10:24,719 --> 02:10:31,920
» Oh, I don't have the base lease with me.
It was a substantial reduction. Um, I

1482
02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:37,119
want to say at least
30 to 40% off of what they're paying now

1483
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:39,119
annually. I have those numbers scheduled
out at my office. I did not bring them

1484
02:10:38,719 --> 02:10:43,639
with me.
>> So, who owns the tower right now?

1485
02:10:43,679 --> 02:10:49,599
» We own it. It's our tower.
>> It's our tower.

1486
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:53,199
» Who else is on it besides up them and
us?

1487
02:10:50,719 --> 02:10:58,880
» So, it's on another individual's land.
It is our tower and they are the only

1488
02:10:56,320 --> 02:11:01,920
utility like phone company that is on
that. And then we have our equipment for

1489
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:08,639
the 911.
>> And what do we pay for the landl?

1490
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:12,119
» So the landl is whatever this contract
is split.

1491
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:18,800
Like they get half, we get half. We use
the half to pay for the utilities, the

1492
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:22,320
power, and everything else to the
generator, and then they get the other

1493
02:11:20,239 --> 02:11:27,520
half.
>> So if they leave, how does that affect

1494
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:33,920
our lease?
>> If they they have the right to terminate

1495
02:11:30,719 --> 02:11:38,000
the lease on notice, they give us notice
and they

1496
02:11:35,679 --> 02:11:39,920
leave the space. Your question is, how
does that impact the lease with the land

1497
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:45,840
owner?
>> Yes, sir. I don't have an answer to that

1498
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:50,639
today. I could get you one.
>> And I seem less. But

1499
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:55,360
» yeah, then we pick up everything that
>> Well, it seems to me it's

1500
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:58,880
» I don't plus would there be power in
Well, yeah, because

1501
02:11:56,880 --> 02:12:03,360
» he's the land owner now as he gets
whatever we generate off the power.

1502
02:12:01,119 --> 02:12:06,400
We're not generating any money. I'm just
curious how that lease reads.

1503
02:12:05,119 --> 02:12:09,840
» Yeah. I don't know that I have the base
lease in this file. I have the lease

1504
02:12:08,239 --> 02:12:16,480
with
Celco partnership, the predecessor,

1505
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:21,199
» I believe correctly, like he gets $1,100
a month off of the lease for that tower.

1506
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:26,800
Don't hold me to those exact numbers,
but and that payment actually goes to a

1507
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:34,199
third party company that collects that
money because they paid an upfront cost

1508
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:34,199
to the property owner.

1509
02:13:01,360 --> 02:13:12,400
They can put as much on the on the tire
as they want. Excuse me.

1510
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:16,800
There is a exhibit on the underlying
lease of the space they're using

1511
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:20,480
currently, but uh it's not very
restrictive.

1512
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:26,719
in terms of what they they put out
there.

1513
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:29,840
So, like I said, I'm not a big fan of
these amendments. We're starting to see

1514
02:13:28,079 --> 02:13:37,480
more and more of them. It's kind of a
race to the bottom to reduce their rent

1515
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:37,480
obligations. From my perspective,

1516
02:13:38,239 --> 02:13:42,639
» Paul Bump and I actually had a
conversation about the different towers

1517
02:13:41,199 --> 02:13:46,560
and different leases because we're
coming across this where more companies

1518
02:13:45,199 --> 02:13:51,840
are reaching out to us for different
tower sites. Um, one of the things is a

1519
02:13:50,079 --> 02:13:56,159
rider that says if they put more
equipment on it, it is their

1520
02:13:53,199 --> 02:14:01,599
responsibility that they b bear the cost
to have a structural engineer say that

1521
02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:06,320
that tower can handle
new equipment or equipment that weighs

1522
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:12,000
up to, I don't know, 300 lb or whatever
it is. I mean, that is also an option we

1523
02:14:09,040 --> 02:14:16,760
can put in there to protect us and they
have to bear the cost for that.

1524
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:36,239
So if we want we don't want any map to
we can keep the lease that we have in

1525
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:41,599
ports and it's up to them whether or not
they want to cancel.

1526
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:45,280
» That's the way the field is now. I think
your question about looking at the base

1527
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:51,760
lease to make sure that the documents
don't interplay is a good question. What

1528
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:53,679
our obligations are to our counterparty
there.

1529
02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:59,360
» That's what I worry about.
>> So I think we need to check that

1530
02:14:57,040 --> 02:15:02,599
and report back because I that has not
been reviewed.

1531
02:15:02,719 --> 02:15:14,360
But basically, we need to come back and
>> take agenda item 16 and place it on the

1532
02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:14,360
next meeting.

1533
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:25,239
» Thank you, Trey.

1534
02:15:26,639 --> 02:15:33,599
Number 17. Review, discuss, consider
pledging $500,000 to the Clarksburg

1535
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:37,000
Water Board to help with the Lumberport
Water System.

1536
02:15:40,639 --> 02:15:47,679
» Good afternoon, commissioners. Um, my
name is Ryan Hulcom. um with the

1537
02:15:44,159 --> 02:15:50,960
Thrasher Group and I was asked by um
representatives of the Clarksburg Water

1538
02:15:49,280 --> 02:15:56,159
Board, Shortline Public Service District
and the Town of Lumberard who have all

1539
02:15:52,719 --> 02:16:00,159
joined me um to just give a a brief
reminder. This project's been out there

1540
02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:05,840
for a while um in the Clarksburg
Waterboard's request is relatively

1541
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:10,079
thorough in in the uh where we currently
are, but I did just want to highlight a

1542
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:16,400
few things um and the progress that this
project has made um since we last

1543
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:21,280
discussed it. Um it's been it's had a
lot of complexities in that you know the

1544
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:26,480
overall goal of this project is to
decommission the existing um lumberport

1545
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:31,040
water treatment plant and allow them to
purchase water uh from a neighboring

1546
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:37,599
utility. Um the the complex thing is
there are multiple utilities for them to

1547
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:43,280
purchase the water from. So um we
provide you know we performed an

1548
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:47,760
analysis um for several alternatives um
for purchasing from all those utilities

1549
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:52,319
and
one of the they were all construct like

1550
02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:58,160
from a constructibility construction
cost standpoint all very feasible. Um so

1551
02:16:55,840 --> 02:17:02,319
we took the next step in that okay we've
got three feasible alternatives how do

1552
02:16:59,920 --> 02:17:06,559
we fund them? Um and we put together
nine different funding scenarios to try

1553
02:17:04,240 --> 02:17:12,719
to determine what would be the best. And
in doing that, we did identify um that

1554
02:17:09,519 --> 02:17:17,599
with the Clarksburg Waterboard um
absorption of or in that's in process

1555
02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:23,120
with Shoreline Public Service District
that uh the Clarksburg Waterboard was

1556
02:17:19,679 --> 02:17:28,559
willing to um disperse the debt service
associated with that project across

1557
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:33,120
their entire customer base in lie of
adding a search charge for repaying that

1558
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:36,399
debt to their resale rate. So they
they're just willing to take them on as

1559
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:40,719
a resale rate customer with no
additional search charge. That in itself

1560
02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:45,439
is
downstream rate impact for the town of

1561
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:49,760
Lumberport customers. That difference is
really the clear differentiator that

1562
02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:58,160
this um alternative for them to purchase
water is is the uh is the most feasible

1563
02:17:55,200 --> 02:18:01,359
u overall. So, we we submitted we
compiled all this information and we

1564
02:17:59,519 --> 02:18:07,359
submitted it to the infrastructure
council down in Charleston and um we

1565
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:10,960
were at the meeting last week and we
we'd received the technical comments.

1566
02:18:08,960 --> 02:18:17,679
There were no technical comments on the
project at all. It went through fine. Um

1567
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:20,880
however, the funding committee um made a
point at the very beginning of the

1568
02:18:18,639 --> 02:18:26,000
meeting that the economic enhancement
grant funds available through the water

1569
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:31,040
development authority are they've
received more requests than funds that

1570
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:35,200
they have available. Um which really
took not only this project but several

1571
02:18:32,880 --> 02:18:42,080
other projects by surprise in that
moment. Um so immediately um Mr. Myers

1572
02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:50,479
was with me. we immediately started
working to um try to figure out how how

1573
02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:57,120
we would solve um that that problem. And
uh so what we what we've come up with um

1574
02:18:54,880 --> 02:19:02,800
there's the current Shoreline public
service district project is projected to

1575
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:06,559
come in under budget. Um approximately
half a million dollars is what they're

1576
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:11,359
projecting right now. The total
shortfall with the inavvailability of

1577
02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:19,040
the economic enhancement grant funds is
a million dollars. So Clarksburg said we

1578
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:23,280
would go and um borrow an additional on
top of what they're already borrowing um

1579
02:19:20,960 --> 02:19:29,679
an additional $500,000 from the drinking
water treatment revolving fund and and

1580
02:19:26,479 --> 02:19:36,399
they're uh formally requesting I suppose
uh a contribution um for this project

1581
02:19:34,639 --> 02:19:42,479
uh from the county uh from the county
commission. So, um, that's kind of a

1582
02:19:39,519 --> 02:19:47,920
quick, um, update on where we are and
and why we're here. Um, and it's been a

1583
02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:52,800
long, long time coming. It's a
regionally it's a really important

1584
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:56,640
project. Um, that the town I've been
working with the town of Lumberport for

1585
02:19:54,319 --> 02:20:02,319
several years on it. Um, so to be able
to be at this point, like I thought we

1586
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:05,600
were there and uh, and so this was a
little bit of a curveball that we're

1587
02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:12,920
just trying to do what we can to return
us to being funded and being able to

1588
02:20:09,359 --> 02:20:12,920
execute this project.

1589
02:20:14,960 --> 02:20:24,080
» The rates going up.
>> Um, yes. So there will be a downstream

1590
02:20:20,160 --> 02:20:29,439
rate impact. Um Clarksburg
Clarksburg's resale rate in comparison

1591
02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:35,920
to what the town uh produces the water
at is is

1592
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:41,200
reasonably higher. Um but Lumberport's
accountant hasn't uh ran that analysis

1593
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:48,640
to know what that exact number is, but
council administration as a whole is in

1594
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:56,000
favor of of the project um to do this.
So, and uh Mr. Myers did bring up there

1595
02:20:52,720 --> 02:21:02,080
the reason we were reacting and working
so quickly um to try to get this solved.

1596
02:20:59,920 --> 02:21:07,520
The infrastructure council's uh
deadlines for submissions is the 10th of

1597
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:11,920
every month. And each time we don't have
an answer to the 10th, it basically

1598
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:19,120
delays the project about a month to 45
days. And um so that's that's the reason

1599
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:24,840
that from last Tuesday to now we've
we've turned to try to get on this

1600
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:24,840
agenda and everything.

1601
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:33,200
» Do you need an answer
on this 500,000 so you can make your

1602
02:21:31,439 --> 02:21:36,479
pitch back on the 10th? Is that what
you're saying?

1603
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:40,479
» Yes. If if a if a contribution is
favorable, we would be able to resubmit

1604
02:21:38,880 --> 02:21:48,160
to the infrastructure council on August
the 10th and be placed on the

1605
02:21:44,080 --> 02:21:54,479
20 20some August uh technical review
committee agenda and the September full

1606
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:57,280
council agenda. And from that I I
believe we would have a favorable

1607
02:21:55,920 --> 02:22:00,520
funding recommendation to move the
project forward.

1608
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:08,800
Okay. Now, if we pledge this money,
because we can pledge it today, we don't

1609
02:22:07,439 --> 02:22:12,240
have to write you a check tomorrow.
>> No.

1610
02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:18,479
» If we were to do that, when would you
need the funds by?

1611
02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:22,000
» Yeah. I mean, we would be um
>> realistically

1612
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:25,680
» realistically next year. Uh early next
year, I think is a realistic time frame.

1613
02:22:24,960 --> 02:22:29,359
You know, there's
>> early next year.

1614
02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:34,960
You mean calendar year?
>> Calendar year. Yeah, I mean

1615
02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:38,960
» I'm looking to make two.
>> Um

1616
02:22:36,479 --> 02:22:45,840
I I I think that
spring of next year is probably

1617
02:22:41,920 --> 02:22:50,240
realistic if I mean if po we're going to
expedite the process. I know that the

1618
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:54,720
city and the town are wanting to start
immediately. That's that's the reason

1619
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:57,200
we're reacting trying to get funding as
quickly as possible

1620
02:22:55,439 --> 02:23:02,880
» so it doesn't keep deteriorating any
worse than we already have

1621
02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:06,560
» as well. Um, but we we can't we can't
start the design until it's fully

1622
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:10,479
funded.
>> And I don't mean I'm sorry. I should say

1623
02:23:08,800 --> 02:23:16,240
recommended
>> or allocate or pledged is a good way to

1624
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:20,800
put it.
>> May I ask a question?

1625
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:27,200
» Sure. it. Um, with the 500,000, if they
pledge it, would it be possible to pay

1626
02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:32,479
like 250 early spring and then the other
250 after the new fiscal year, which

1627
02:23:30,479 --> 02:23:38,160
would be July 1st. Is that something
that we could take into consideration?

1628
02:23:35,359 --> 02:23:42,160
It it it it
shouldn't. By the time we we have to get

1629
02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:45,280
the rest of the funding from the
drinking water treatment rolling fund

1630
02:23:43,439 --> 02:23:50,640
and infrastructure council, the other
funders, we have to receive their

1631
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:55,040
binding commitment um before we would be
able to to bid. But I mean, as far as

1632
02:23:52,960 --> 02:23:58,920
drawing and having the funds in hand, I
don't see that being an issue.

1633
02:23:59,920 --> 02:24:06,800
» No, I don't think so.
That's what I was getting at.

1634
02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:12,960
» So, if this project comes in over your
budget, what's your next step?

1635
02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:16,720
» Um, there are several uh several ways we
handle that. Um, usually we will work

1636
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:20,880
with the main funer, which is the
drinking water treatment revolving fund.

1637
02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:25,040
They have monies available for for
overruns. Um, secondly, we have the

1638
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:28,640
infrastructure council themselves in
this project. Every project that goes to

1639
02:24:26,880 --> 02:24:37,680
the infrastructure council is eligible
for up to $160,000 bid overrun. Um,

1640
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:41,840
we also will only close the project with
5% construction contingency.

1641
02:24:40,399 --> 02:24:46,319
While there's more than that in the
estimate currently, that can all be

1642
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:51,760
applied towards we we won't be allowed
to close with more than five. So, those

1643
02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:56,240
will be allowed to move into the award
if necessary.

1644
02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:59,240
» You got 15%.
>> Yeah.

1645
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:07,240
The only other thing that I look at,
Susan, is

1646
02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:16,240
we got a
remain $940,000

1647
02:25:12,880 --> 02:25:21,319
water project
and we got a million dollar in salt

1648
02:25:18,319 --> 02:25:21,319
cost.

1649
02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:31,520
I'm trying to wrap my head around a
million dollars in soft cost on a

1650
02:25:28,399 --> 02:25:35,800
$4 million project and we're adding
another million in soft cost.

1651
02:25:38,240 --> 02:25:46,640
I mean, now we're charging $200,000 just
to administer

1652
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:52,640
» the the project the a lot items spec
Well, let me let me I guess let me

1653
02:25:49,280 --> 02:25:57,359
answer the original concern. Um soft
costs for professionals are typically um

1654
02:25:55,680 --> 02:26:02,240
governed by the construction cost of the
project. So I can say for engineering

1655
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:06,319
itself, we abide by the uh American
Society of Civil Engineering fee curves

1656
02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:10,399
that are related to construction costs.
So that's also looked at. All those off

1657
02:26:08,399 --> 02:26:14,080
costs are also looked at at the
infrastructure council as well. Um if

1658
02:26:12,880 --> 02:26:19,200
they have concerns with those, they
always bring those up. None were noted.

1659
02:26:16,399 --> 02:26:22,800
Um administration itself, I will say, is
usually a fixed percentage of

1660
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:28,399
construction costs as well.
>> Being aerial mappings required for this

1661
02:26:26,319 --> 02:26:34,960
project.
>> Yeah. to to properly

1662
02:26:32,000 --> 02:26:39,439
design the project, you you'd need a a
base mapping. And I will say the this

1663
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:45,439
the service this service is in
comparison to any publicly funded

1664
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:51,240
infrastructure project align like
there's nothing out of the ordinary

1665
02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:51,240
there.

1666
02:26:53,200 --> 02:27:00,560
» There's there's another thrasher there
guy knows how I feel about this stuff.

1667
02:26:57,600 --> 02:27:03,760
So, he's been down this road with me
before.

1668
02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:08,319
» And if I may,
>> I just find it interesting that you guys

1669
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:13,359
are looking at rideaways and surveying
and

1670
02:27:09,920 --> 02:27:17,840
all this interesting stuff that I got
the impression you were laying the line

1671
02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:22,720
back along existing rideways.
>> A lot of those we put in place as if we

1672
02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:27,040
need them, right? So, if we do the
project with zero rideofways, those

1673
02:27:24,319 --> 02:27:31,920
funds are not used. uh they're not
expended, right? It's all tracked by the

1674
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:36,880
plan the regional uh planning and
development council um who also who is

1675
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:40,720
the administrator of
>> there's a reduction in this overall bid.

1676
02:27:38,960 --> 02:27:44,880
Is there a reduction back to us and
500,000 we pledged?

1677
02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:49,520
» You you can um we can work with the
region with region six planning

1678
02:27:46,319 --> 02:27:54,000
development council and we can when they
put together the schedule B the the

1679
02:27:51,200 --> 02:27:58,399
proposed budget those funds could be I
mean if you wanted to put those that

1680
02:27:55,760 --> 02:28:04,399
pledge towards construction only that is
an option like they can the re region

1681
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:07,200
six can set those budgets and your
contributions to whatever line items

1682
02:28:05,840 --> 02:28:10,399
you'd like. I guess I'm Yeah, because
I'm just looking if it comes in at four

1683
02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:14,319
and a half million instead of five
million, then we get a percentage of our

1684
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:20,439
money back.
>> I I see no I don't see any problem with

1685
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:20,439
that though.

1686
02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:25,800
Guess

1687
02:28:28,399 --> 02:28:38,439
the only other issue I have is again
this letter from lumber for a little

1688
02:28:34,319 --> 02:28:38,439
disheartening to me for

1689
02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:46,000
they're not the the city's not going to
try to

1690
02:28:42,960 --> 02:28:52,160
spread any of this cost out over with
their residents.

1691
02:28:49,520 --> 02:28:56,800
was a little surprised that that that's
not towards what you're doing. I'm just

1692
02:28:53,680 --> 02:29:02,880
going by the letters. just saying that
the town doesn't feel it

1693
02:28:59,920 --> 02:29:07,520
needs to kick in whether it's through
another assessment to all the people

1694
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:13,040
that are on the water or somehow
something short lines technically

1695
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:19,760
kicking in a half a million dollars back
to which you all did but city of one

1696
02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:23,520
report is zero
>> and if I may on on the mayor's behalf

1697
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:28,960
like I said that rate the rate impact on
the customers themselves

1698
02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:32,479
Again, I don't know what that is.
It will be a significant change in order

1699
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:38,399
to purchase it versus
>> I understand that.

1700
02:29:34,800 --> 02:29:44,600
Then at the same time, I understand that
they're going to get a reliable water

1701
02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:44,600
source that they haven't had for years,

1702
02:29:47,280 --> 02:29:52,760
but without really putting anything in
it,

1703
02:29:54,000 --> 02:30:03,200
which should bring in more funds.
They're not dumping into

1704
02:30:00,479 --> 02:30:06,960
» I guess the question is if the and this
is a question for Trey after this all

1705
02:30:05,120 --> 02:30:14,319
done if the city wants to start tacking
on stuff just to run the city onto the

1706
02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:21,000
water bill just after we've
paid this money out. Is there anything

1707
02:30:16,399 --> 02:30:21,000
that he have to say over that?

1708
02:30:24,640 --> 02:30:30,640
» You understand my question?
>> I do understand your question.

1709
02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:34,720
Um, and we're making it easy for them to
lose all the expenses and now they can

1710
02:30:33,200 --> 02:30:37,680
turn around and look at whether or not
they want to.

1711
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:41,439
» They still owe us money.
>> Yeah,

1712
02:30:39,439 --> 02:30:44,640
» they do.
We've been down this road with money

1713
02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:51,200
with them.
>> You know what we're saying? So I'm

1714
02:30:47,760 --> 02:30:54,399
proposing some kind of like lock period
or

1715
02:30:52,880 --> 02:30:58,319
this. I'm not going to set it up to
where they're going to turn around and

1716
02:30:55,920 --> 02:31:04,200
hit the citizens
I guess for other expenses when we're

1717
02:31:00,399 --> 02:31:04,200
sitting there trying to

1718
02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:13,359
trying to make sure that what we do gets
the best bang. That's why I want to know

1719
02:31:11,600 --> 02:31:17,840
if we can get this thing under five
million that we get some of our money

1720
02:31:14,960 --> 02:31:24,960
back so we can do other things and that
the we're going in to lumber pour to the

1721
02:31:22,240 --> 02:31:29,040
tune of four or $500,000
and it's not so that they can go back

1722
02:31:26,880 --> 02:31:32,160
out and
>> make money off our money.

1723
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:36,319
» Make money off our money
>> when they already owe us some. I don't

1724
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:41,840
even know what it is at this point. So
that's my only

1725
02:31:39,120 --> 02:31:48,560
my only concern. So I don't know how we
make all this in a motion

1726
02:31:45,920 --> 02:31:56,960
or how we'll look at it, but I think I
can make a motion that we will pledge

1727
02:31:53,040 --> 02:32:02,000
to up to $500,000.
>> Details to be determined

1728
02:31:58,720 --> 02:32:11,200
» and the details to be determined. And we
would like for it to fall into two

1729
02:32:05,600 --> 02:32:18,640
uh physical calendar years for us.
So, and the details to be worked out.

1730
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:22,720
Does that work, Mr. Attorney?
It sounds like it'll have to. Um, yeah,

1731
02:32:21,439 --> 02:32:25,040
we can work on it. We're going to need
some more information. We're probably

1732
02:32:24,160 --> 02:32:28,640
going to need the financial
justification

1733
02:32:26,640 --> 02:32:35,120
» any
>> as well as operational understanding of

1734
02:32:32,640 --> 02:32:38,960
» what's anticipated out there in the
future. I don't know if yall are that

1735
02:32:36,319 --> 02:32:43,760
far in the planning process or not. Um
but we can work on that. I like the two

1736
02:32:41,280 --> 02:32:48,720
tranch idea the 250 250 each fiscal
year. I think that's for a total of

1737
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:53,359
five. And maybe
uh we'll have all that information by

1738
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:58,080
the second Tunch.
>> Tunch.

1739
02:32:55,600 --> 02:33:00,720
So,
>> you guys happy?

1740
02:32:59,359 --> 02:33:04,960
» Yes. Everybody understand what we're
trying to do here?

1741
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:09,200
» Get Yeah. If you if you ask more,
they'll get you. We'll work that out.

1742
02:33:07,120 --> 02:33:11,200
Yeah.
>> And they

1743
02:33:09,680 --> 02:33:14,520
» I trust you. I don't know about them
back there.

1744
02:33:15,200 --> 02:33:21,439
» And disclosure, I mean, I've been in the
background in some of this for

1745
02:33:18,160 --> 02:33:23,840
Lumberport. Everybody's been countywide.
Everybody's been trying to

1746
02:33:23,200 --> 02:33:27,359
» Yeah.
>> do the best thing for the citizens from

1747
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:29,920
day one here.
>> And that's what the bottom line is here.

1748
02:33:29,359 --> 02:33:35,280
That's
>> Yeah. I mean, we're just again, we're

1749
02:33:33,359 --> 02:33:40,600
just trying to make sure that we're
keeping track of what we at all think

1750
02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:40,600
we've got.

1751
02:33:40,880 --> 02:33:44,840
» I I don't want to speak for

1752
02:33:44,960 --> 02:33:51,439
they have a account for water problem.
So, they're going to be investing in

1753
02:33:49,359 --> 02:33:55,040
their system. So,
They're going to be using the money that

1754
02:33:52,560 --> 02:33:58,880
they normally would put into this
project. They need to fix in house

1755
02:33:56,880 --> 02:34:02,319
first. So, they're going to be using the
money

1756
02:34:01,359 --> 02:34:07,680
that you're going to be that they're
going to be using to fix all their leaks

1757
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:10,479
and and hope to walk them through to go
get some grants.

1758
02:34:08,640 --> 02:34:15,760
» If if I may, I don't want to go back too
far in time. We did do when we were when

1759
02:34:13,520 --> 02:34:18,960
we did do a phase one the first initial
phase project with Lumber report in

1760
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:22,880
which we did a leak detection study
across the system. And the system was

1761
02:34:20,319 --> 02:34:29,600
relatively tight at that time. Um, but
what was noted is that the the average

1762
02:34:25,280 --> 02:34:37,840
water meter age 20 to 40 years old and
we the this the town ple uh pledged and

1763
02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:40,479
and contributed $250,000 of their ARPA
money

1764
02:34:38,720 --> 02:34:46,720
» to go to the infrastructure council and
receive an additional $250,000 in grant

1765
02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:53,760
um to perform and implement that project
that was completed back in 2023 or so.

1766
02:34:50,479 --> 02:34:57,200
Um, so that was one way they they did do
that at one time.

1767
02:34:55,120 --> 02:35:04,000
» Okay. Well, I mean, we still know those
grants are out there and I'll hope

1768
02:35:00,960 --> 02:35:08,960
Clarksburg helps
and you all direct them how they can get

1769
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:14,399
those grants and get their system
brought up.

1770
02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:18,160
» Okay.
>> Does everybody understand the motion?

1771
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:23,000
Okay.
Say it again. Oh, come on, John.

1772
02:35:23,200 --> 02:35:26,560
» You got it. You sure?
>> He was just I know

1773
02:35:25,760 --> 02:35:30,000
» he's messing with you.
>> He was messing.

1774
02:35:27,439 --> 02:35:32,160
» Okay. Okay.
Any further discussion?

1775
02:35:31,359 --> 02:35:36,080
» No, ma'am.
>> I just appreciate you guys coming and

1776
02:35:33,840 --> 02:35:41,560
explaining everything
for your support of our project.

1777
02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:41,560
» We haven't voted for it yet.

1778
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:50,479
» Okay. All in
>> all in favor signify by saying I. I. Any

1779
02:35:48,080 --> 02:35:52,160
opposed? Hearing none. Motion carried.
>> Thank you very much. Thanks.

1780
02:35:51,760 --> 02:35:55,479
» Thank you.
>> You got it.

1781
02:35:55,840 --> 02:36:05,200
» No, we appreciate, believe me, what you
guys have been doing and it's it's not

1782
02:36:01,120 --> 02:36:08,880
easy. We under we understand that
>> and to go and expect it and then you

1783
02:36:06,880 --> 02:36:12,319
have that taken out from under you. It
was it was complete. Yeah. Well, we were

1784
02:36:11,920 --> 02:36:16,560
just
>> not like the first one.

1785
02:36:14,720 --> 02:36:22,560
» Seems to be a trend down there right at
the moment that money keeps getting

1786
02:36:19,280 --> 02:36:25,200
pulled back.
>> Yeah.

1787
02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:27,920
» Thank you so much. We appreciate that.
>> Thank you very much. Thank you.

1788
02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:34,960
» Have a good day.
>> See you. Behave yourself. Al.

1789
02:36:32,800 --> 02:36:41,680
» Okay. Number 18. Review, discuss,
consider creating a priority list for

1790
02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:41,680
the rail trail project.

1791
02:36:45,280 --> 02:36:50,880
This was Commissioner Toff's item.
>> Oh.

1792
02:36:48,240 --> 02:36:56,319
» Um, so I'm not exactly sure what he was
looking for here. I know that we have

1793
02:36:53,439 --> 02:37:00,000
several projects going on on the rail
trail.

1794
02:36:57,200 --> 02:37:04,560
» Would that not be something that once we
get Where's it at? A rail trail

1795
02:37:03,040 --> 02:37:07,920
committee
>> that they could do?

1796
02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:11,680
» Yes.
>> Okay. So, do we not want to take any

1797
02:37:10,240 --> 02:37:16,560
action at this time?
>> Well,

1798
02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:21,200
this priority list, I I think we've
already pretty much

1799
02:37:19,439 --> 02:37:25,399
Tell me if I'm wrong, Chad, but haven't
we pretty much established one.

1800
02:37:27,600 --> 02:37:35,200
» Unless you know something we don't.
>> Well, I mean, Greek,

1801
02:37:33,520 --> 02:37:40,880
we sat there too long.
>> We established the VA to

1802
02:37:38,640 --> 02:37:47,280
the loss creek except for the issues
with the bridges which you have yet to

1803
02:37:43,760 --> 02:37:52,640
bring to us. I don't think the cost
to complete that, right?

1804
02:37:50,240 --> 02:37:55,920
» Yeah. I mean I I I don't know what I
don't know what that agenda item is

1805
02:37:54,080 --> 02:38:01,359
about, but I mean we've we've had many
different priorities and discussions

1806
02:37:57,359 --> 02:38:06,720
about the railro. It's all good. I mean
it's hard to prioritize things. I think

1807
02:38:04,319 --> 02:38:09,120
in my mind connecting Shinston to
Clarksburg has always been my goal.

1808
02:38:08,240 --> 02:38:10,880
» I mean, yeah.
>> Yeah, that's what I mean. But we know

1809
02:38:10,560 --> 02:38:14,479
that
>> connectivity is the

1810
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:19,520
» but there's a lot of little pieces. I
don't

1811
02:38:16,560 --> 02:38:27,319
did he did give us an idea what it was
going to cost to go from PA to

1812
02:38:23,760 --> 02:38:27,319
» um Heightfield

1813
02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:32,840
and that was around

1814
02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:36,680
two or 300.

1815
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:46,240
» No, the total cost was 917
>> to go from the VA to

1816
02:38:45,359 --> 02:38:47,840
» Hfield.
>> Yes.

1817
02:38:46,880 --> 02:38:51,960
» That's how much?
>> 917.

1818
02:38:48,960 --> 02:38:51,960
» 917.

1819
02:38:58,399 --> 02:39:07,200
» How far are we from the BA towards
that we call good trail

1820
02:39:04,240 --> 02:39:09,600
that's usable towards Hydefield. How far
down?

1821
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:13,280
» It's like Hampton Street. It's right
there where the water plan is. Not far

1822
02:39:11,680 --> 02:39:15,760
from the where the dam is.
>> Pretty much stop right there. It's not

1823
02:39:14,720 --> 02:39:19,280
doesn't go very far.
>> Yeah, there's Yeah, it's in pretty good

1824
02:39:17,520 --> 02:39:24,080
shape. There's a retaining wall right
next to where the water plant dam is

1825
02:39:22,560 --> 02:39:29,439
» that's failing.
>> So, I I just estimated a new retaining

1826
02:39:26,160 --> 02:39:33,520
wall just encapsulate the old one.
So that's part of my estimate, but other

1827
02:39:31,359 --> 02:39:36,640
than that wall that was built by the
railroad or by the waterboard.

1828
02:39:35,520 --> 02:39:42,240
» I don't know. That's a good question.
I'm not sure. It's made of brick, so I

1829
02:39:40,399 --> 02:39:46,359
would say I don't know.
>> That's interesting.

1830
02:39:43,040 --> 02:39:46,359
» It is.

1831
02:39:46,960 --> 02:39:53,600
At first, I wasn't going to fix it,
but I think if we're fixing rail trails,

1832
02:39:52,240 --> 02:39:57,359
I think we ought to fix it correctly.
And the correct way to do it is to make

1833
02:39:55,520 --> 02:40:01,280
it look like it's not going to fall on
you when you're walking on it. So, I

1834
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:05,359
don't think it's a structural issue. I
think it's just so old. It's just um

1835
02:40:04,560 --> 02:40:14,000
failing.
>> Are the bids should be coming in from

1836
02:40:10,399 --> 02:40:18,319
uh 19 to Reynoldsville or one of those
two?

1837
02:40:14,960 --> 02:40:25,200
» Yeah. Um Sam and Laura have come to an
agreement on those dates, I believe.

1838
02:40:21,120 --> 02:40:30,000
» Yeah. So, I emailed you guys maybe two
days ago.

1839
02:40:26,080 --> 02:40:35,920
» I saw that. I just Yeah,
>> I have a text from somebody at the city

1840
02:40:32,880 --> 02:40:39,880
that they have a grant to pay from the H
Heartland Bridge to Wendy's.

1841
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:46,720
» We don't
>> I'm just telling you what the text I

1842
02:40:44,479 --> 02:40:50,560
just got.
So,

1843
02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:52,720
» yes, I was going to talk to him after
the meeting.

1844
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:54,800
» We We don't own all the way down through
there, do we?

1845
02:40:53,200 --> 02:40:58,240
» There are parts of it that you don't, I
don't believe.

1846
02:40:55,680 --> 02:41:02,080
» No, this is a city. Yeah, but we don't
there's there's

1847
02:40:59,600 --> 02:41:04,960
» I don't know what they've done or I have
I mean I'll can talk to him after this

1848
02:41:04,160 --> 02:41:06,479
meeting.
>> Yeah.

1849
02:41:05,280 --> 02:41:10,960
» And find out for sure what
>> because we knew we know we get to height

1850
02:41:08,399 --> 02:41:16,479
field. We own down to height field just
past Heightfield down technically the

1851
02:41:13,520 --> 02:41:20,160
cemetery, don't we? I'm thinking.
>> Yeah. I I put some money in there for

1852
02:41:18,479 --> 02:41:23,840
attorney fees because I think it's worth
you making sure Trey checks that and

1853
02:41:21,920 --> 02:41:28,319
make sure that
um you do own all that in there because

1854
02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:31,680
there was some there was some property
back in that area back behind the

1855
02:41:30,080 --> 02:41:37,800
cemetery. I think when you come to that
business and I can't

1856
02:41:33,600 --> 02:41:37,800
» just pass the cemetery there's

1857
02:41:38,319 --> 02:41:44,000
» um when when are all the bids going to
be due or do you have that available

1858
02:41:43,520 --> 02:41:48,880
quickly?
>> I do. Sam and I finalized everything.

1859
02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:53,439
Um, everything is pretty much the same
except one thing in the email I sent

1860
02:41:50,560 --> 02:41:59,040
you. So, the advertisement will be um
August 11th, August 18th pre- bid

1861
02:41:56,080 --> 02:42:04,240
meeting August 20th bid opening instead
of Tuesday, it is now going to be

1862
02:42:00,640 --> 02:42:10,560
Monday, September 14th, we'll have on
the September 16th agenda to award.

1863
02:42:08,560 --> 02:42:17,439
» So, where is this? I'm sorry, I must
have missed that. This is for um the

1864
02:42:15,040 --> 02:42:21,120
sections of trail. Believe all the
sections of the trail that we voted on

1865
02:42:19,600 --> 02:42:24,160
all of that we voted on
>> to move forward. Okay.

1866
02:42:22,720 --> 02:42:30,720
» That's correct. There there's some gaps
in there for the the bridges and the do

1867
02:42:27,600 --> 02:42:37,040
» the property commission voted on. So
>> we got we got a bridge issue still from

1868
02:42:34,479 --> 02:42:42,720
» laid up to Los Creek.
>> We got

1869
02:42:39,600 --> 02:42:46,000
» but the bridges are passable.
>> The bridges from the VA to Lost Creek

1870
02:42:44,640 --> 02:42:49,520
are in pretty good shape. We just need
to do some maintenance on them.

1871
02:42:47,359 --> 02:42:53,040
» Okay. Yeah. You haven't given us the
price to do the maintenance on those yet

1872
02:42:52,319 --> 02:42:56,080
» or have you?
>> Oh, yeah. That was part of the FEMA

1873
02:42:54,720 --> 02:43:01,040
estimate that we've
>> Okay. So, we've never authorized you to

1874
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:04,880
do that though.
>> How much that was?

1875
02:43:02,960 --> 02:43:08,960
» Oh, I think the FEMA the FEMA dollars
that we got for material cost alone were

1876
02:43:06,880 --> 02:43:12,840
707,000.
>> 76.

1877
02:43:09,840 --> 02:43:12,840
» 76.

1878
02:43:20,240 --> 02:43:26,160
I think we got an idea, Susan. I just
got a lot of projects that are all going

1879
02:43:25,040 --> 02:43:29,840
to hit at the same time.
>> Right. That I mean, and to be honest

1880
02:43:27,760 --> 02:43:35,760
with you, until I got that text, I
wasn't fond of working that way. But if

1881
02:43:33,439 --> 02:43:39,600
Clarksburg's going to get it to
Clarksburg, then I'm okay. I didn't want

1882
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:44,160
to go to wherever we go and then we end
again and don't know how long it's going

1883
02:43:40,880 --> 02:43:48,080
to take to get actually into town.
But if this is the case,

1884
02:43:45,840 --> 02:43:51,640
» city of Clarksburg,
>> I don't know.

1885
02:43:51,840 --> 02:43:55,720
» High field.
>> No.

1886
02:43:58,080 --> 02:44:03,120
» And we've reached out
>> purchase

1887
02:44:01,040 --> 02:44:06,240
» that rail trail area,
>> but we haven't heard anything back from

1888
02:44:04,640 --> 02:44:08,240
the city
>> about the

1889
02:44:06,800 --> 02:44:12,640
» whatever they want to give it to us for
a couple bucks or

1890
02:44:09,520 --> 02:44:16,720
» sell it for a couple bucks.
think we should inquire?

1891
02:44:14,479 --> 02:44:21,279
» Well, inquire. You can inquire. That
doesn't cost anything.

1892
02:44:19,040 --> 02:44:26,720
» Well, I think Chad, from what I can
gather at the moment, we have like great

1893
02:44:24,319 --> 02:44:31,680
big ball of projects that are all going
to take off at basically the same time.

1894
02:44:29,840 --> 02:44:36,240
And as bids come in within a month or
two,

1895
02:44:33,680 --> 02:44:39,479
I don't know what we would prioritize at
this point.

1896
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:48,960
none of the projects.
>> I know the bridge is out in limbo land

1897
02:44:45,760 --> 02:44:53,279
with the state.
>> Yeah, you got the Union Cole property. I

1898
02:44:51,920 --> 02:44:57,040
think should be pretty high on your list
of priorities

1899
02:44:55,439 --> 02:45:00,240
to acquire. I don't know where Trey is
with that, but I think that's pretty

1900
02:44:58,160 --> 02:45:05,600
high priority.
Um, and then connecting to Shinston is

1901
02:45:02,720 --> 02:45:10,319
is critical
in my opinion. I think that's where you

1902
02:45:07,279 --> 02:45:14,560
should be looking. Um, but you know,
it's all you're you're doing good stuff.

1903
02:45:12,080 --> 02:45:18,880
I mean, that's just my opinion. That's
where the most use is.

1904
02:45:16,160 --> 02:45:23,840
» But we could probably get some grants on
the Shinston connection, right?

1905
02:45:20,399 --> 02:45:26,640
» Oh, yeah. For sure.
>> I mean, grants.

1906
02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:34,640
» Yes.
>> But we just do. We still have the money

1907
02:45:28,880 --> 02:45:37,279
set aside to buy the land trade for
>> Yes.

1908
02:45:35,600 --> 02:45:41,520
» That's That's just been sitting there,
right? It's been sitting there. We've

1909
02:45:39,200 --> 02:45:50,560
been trying to accommodate the property
owner's request. Patience is running

1910
02:45:46,000 --> 02:45:54,760
beyond then with them or us
>> uh us and

1911
02:45:55,040 --> 02:46:01,279
us.
Okay. So, we we you've already you've

1912
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:04,000
already determined we can get up the
hill from there.

1913
02:46:02,800 --> 02:46:08,399
» Yes.
>> Where are we going up the hill? right

1914
02:46:06,160 --> 02:46:13,760
before we get to that big open area that
we can dog leg up.

1915
02:46:11,520 --> 02:46:19,800
» Oh, out on.
>> So, at this point,

1916
02:46:16,800 --> 02:46:19,800
um,

1917
02:46:20,319 --> 02:46:24,040
let's just go ahead.

1918
02:46:24,399 --> 02:46:30,080
We're very close to the point where we
just go get the right of entry and we

1919
02:46:28,240 --> 02:46:38,880
just
start because patience is growing. that.

1920
02:46:36,160 --> 02:46:43,399
» Okay. Well,
um

1921
02:46:39,200 --> 02:46:43,399
» pay the money into court and we roll.

1922
02:46:45,040 --> 02:46:49,680
» And we have the money.
>> Yeah. So,

1923
02:46:49,200 --> 02:46:53,920
» okay.
>> The only the only can of worms that

1924
02:46:51,200 --> 02:46:58,640
opens up is that we're going to get
pushed for another bridge that still not

1925
02:46:56,319 --> 02:47:02,560
going to go anywhere.
rather be.

1926
02:47:00,319 --> 02:47:07,479
» It's just going to end right across the
river and stop because we can't go any

1927
02:47:04,479 --> 02:47:07,479
further.

1928
02:47:10,960 --> 02:47:17,279
» I don't know that I necessarily agree
with that, but it's going to open up the

1929
02:47:14,640 --> 02:47:22,000
trail for sure.
>> Another million and then god knows.

1930
02:47:19,120 --> 02:47:24,800
» I thought you I thought of a way to go
around.

1931
02:47:22,319 --> 02:47:28,960
» Oh, I can. But
>> why can't we go around?

1932
02:47:26,960 --> 02:47:34,920
» We discuss that. So, can we make that
motion, Trey? What we got on the agenda

1933
02:47:31,520 --> 02:47:34,920
for you to?

1934
02:47:35,040 --> 02:47:40,880
» No, unless we go up to the creating. No,
we can't do that.

1935
02:47:38,960 --> 02:47:44,319
» Well, I mean, the agenda item was
creating a priority list. So, I think

1936
02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:48,720
we've talked about that.
>> Yeah, we just skipped that, but we can

1937
02:47:46,319 --> 02:47:54,240
back up to it if that's
>> So, we have priority list is to get

1938
02:47:52,479 --> 02:48:00,399
bids in on all the stuff that we've
already approved the money for. So we

1939
02:47:56,880 --> 02:48:08,720
can get those started.
Get us the price to get us around

1940
02:48:04,479 --> 02:48:13,279
uh whatever. Um Chris Lane,
that's our one issue.

1941
02:48:11,200 --> 02:48:17,600
» So we're still on 18.
>> Yeah, I'm just thinking on the list. So

1942
02:48:15,279 --> 02:48:22,720
that's so the priority for you right now
is

1943
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:27,600
getting us around Chris Lane and uh
getting us the gold ice proper. So those

1944
02:48:25,439 --> 02:48:33,120
are our two top priority
>> and we also did talk about u opening the

1945
02:48:30,720 --> 02:48:35,760
conversation with the city about that
other

1946
02:48:33,520 --> 02:48:37,520
» yeah I'm going to talk to Jason after
>> so

1947
02:48:36,160 --> 02:48:41,160
» this afternoon
>> go with the city

1948
02:48:44,160 --> 02:48:47,160
» okay

1949
02:48:48,640 --> 02:48:54,800
» no action
>> well I think we

1950
02:48:53,200 --> 02:48:57,680
I don't know if it's something We have
to make a motion. I think we've just

1951
02:48:56,399 --> 02:49:00,960
directed staff and
>> Okay.

1952
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:07,040
» Thank you, Chad.
>> You're welcome.

1953
02:49:03,439 --> 02:49:10,800
» So, 19,
we're not doing anything there at this

1954
02:49:08,720 --> 02:49:12,479
point in time, right?
>> No.

1955
02:49:11,439 --> 02:49:16,560
» Okay.
>> No, I think we need to wait in

1956
02:49:14,640 --> 02:49:18,640
» see what everybody else I'll talk to the
city and let you know what I'm going to

1957
02:49:18,080 --> 02:49:22,800
do.
>> Well, I think we need to get these other

1958
02:49:20,479 --> 02:49:28,560
bids in and see if that part burn,
>> right? Oh, no. That's why I'm

1959
02:49:24,960 --> 02:49:30,479
» so I'm I'm willing to to slow that one
down.

1960
02:49:29,200 --> 02:49:33,680
» Okay.
>> So, nothing on 19.

1961
02:49:32,640 --> 02:49:38,080
» No.
>> Okay. Number 20. Review, discuss,

1962
02:49:36,080 --> 02:49:41,520
consider approving the bylaws for the
rail trail committee that we are

1963
02:49:39,840 --> 02:49:47,000
creating.
Is that your Bailey Wick? That's why

1964
02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:47,000
you're here.

1965
02:49:51,680 --> 02:50:00,399
So, you had asked me to benchmark with
local

1966
02:49:57,600 --> 02:50:07,760
um some of our local neighbors on how
they use advisory

1967
02:50:02,880 --> 02:50:13,600
uh boards in their with their uh rail
trails. We did that. We reached out. We

1968
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:19,439
got some information. Um I think the
bylaws that I presented I hope were were

1969
02:50:16,880 --> 02:50:27,680
clear. There's not a lot of authority in
the board. It's um a group of staff, um

1970
02:50:25,520 --> 02:50:34,800
community members,
um our attorney,

1971
02:50:31,520 --> 02:50:40,479
um there's room in there for other
organizations

1972
02:50:37,040 --> 02:50:45,760
um to partner with us
to make recommendations to the

1973
02:50:42,880 --> 02:50:48,960
commission on things like we were just
discussing

1974
02:50:47,359 --> 02:50:54,000
um
with Chad. had recommendations for maybe

1975
02:50:52,080 --> 02:50:59,840
maintenance projects, recommendations
for programming,

1976
02:50:55,840 --> 02:51:06,880
recommendations for use, recommendations
for for future visioning for the trail.

1977
02:51:04,240 --> 02:51:12,439
Um, opportunities for this group to
encourage use to um

1978
02:51:13,040 --> 02:51:24,080
promote use on the trail. Um, it just
gives us a little bit more clarity, a

1979
02:51:19,040 --> 02:51:30,000
charter per se, of forcing us to get
together and come up with ideas and

1980
02:51:27,120 --> 02:51:33,600
recommendations on how we can get the
community more engaged and in love with

1981
02:51:32,240 --> 02:51:36,800
our trail.
>> Who's involved in Harrison Recreational

1982
02:51:35,840 --> 02:51:41,880
Trails?
>> That's Kent Spman's group. Okay.

1983
02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:56,000
Um, so it's more or less less an
advisory board.

1984
02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:58,560
» It's an advisory board, which is what
most of the other

1985
02:51:56,880 --> 02:52:01,520
» I'm sorry. Right. There it is in first.
>> Yeah. No, that's okay. That's what the

1986
02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:05,600
other groups are doing. That's what the
other jurisdictions are doing is an

1987
02:52:03,120 --> 02:52:09,359
advisory board. Now, Harrison Recreation
Trails, they would be more of a

1988
02:52:07,840 --> 02:52:17,279
fundraising
arm of the advisory board because that's

1989
02:52:13,600 --> 02:52:21,520
what their charter is, is to have the
authority to raise funds, do

1990
02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:28,479
fundraising,
um, to support any activities or things

1991
02:52:27,120 --> 02:52:31,520
that we do on the trail.
>> These two people back here.

1992
02:52:30,640 --> 02:52:38,920
» Yes.
>> Um, yeah. Yes, we've we've met. We've

1993
02:52:35,359 --> 02:52:38,920
had many conversations.

1994
02:52:42,240 --> 02:52:51,359
» So, we're excited. We're ready to get
together and start putting some ideas

1995
02:52:47,120 --> 02:52:57,200
together. Um, our intern has done a ton
of work. She's got all kinds of ideas

1996
02:52:53,840 --> 02:53:02,960
and um lists of things that we want to
address where she we have our agenda

1997
02:52:59,840 --> 02:53:07,120
ready to roll for our first meeting. So
we just need your approval and then we

1998
02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:10,160
can
>> Harrison County Recreation Trails is

1999
02:53:09,680 --> 02:53:14,720
that
>> Spellelman's Kent Kelman's group. No,

2000
02:53:13,279 --> 02:53:19,600
» George is involved.
>> George is in that. Um there are several

2001
02:53:16,960 --> 02:53:24,720
other members. I'm I'm not a voting
member, but I attend all their meetings.

2002
02:53:21,680 --> 02:53:28,240
» What's Pike Street Pikes? It's
>> the market

2003
02:53:26,960 --> 02:53:33,880
» Jason Martin
>> and Tammy Jason

2004
02:53:29,760 --> 02:53:33,880
» Jason shop in Chinston

2005
02:53:34,319 --> 02:53:41,960
» they're very
>> I'm going to toss out maybe this is

2006
02:53:38,479 --> 02:53:41,960
crazy but

2007
02:53:42,560 --> 02:53:49,439
» city of Salem our trail lines do it but
they don't have any representation loss

2008
02:53:47,680 --> 02:53:53,439
creek I mean lost creek doesn't have any
representation

2009
02:53:50,960 --> 02:53:59,040
doesn't have any representation Those
are all areas in in Clarksburg. So,

2010
02:53:56,240 --> 02:54:04,880
we're we're trying to make this
I'm hoping a more inclusive trail.

2011
02:54:02,560 --> 02:54:07,880
So, and I'm I'm wondering, do we really
need

2012
02:54:10,000 --> 02:54:17,040
grants on the board or the planning
department or the maintenance? No

2013
02:54:14,960 --> 02:54:23,359
offense, sheriff, but sheriff on the
board. I'm just trying to figure out

2014
02:54:21,439 --> 02:54:30,800
who these members should be and if it's
a guardians of a of a the fork then it

2015
02:54:28,560 --> 02:54:35,760
should be just a member not the whole
organization just for them to give us

2016
02:54:33,840 --> 02:54:40,479
» so it would be member it would be
representation from those groups

2017
02:54:38,640 --> 02:54:46,640
» give us a member to approve
>> yeah and my feeling on bringing the

2018
02:54:44,240 --> 02:54:49,040
players to the table that I'm
recommending

2019
02:54:47,520 --> 02:54:57,359
are
we need our county planner on this. We

2020
02:54:54,240 --> 02:55:03,279
need our sheriff representation.
It may be the sheriff that's appointed

2021
02:54:59,840 --> 02:55:06,800
to the trail. Maybe he's the or she is
the person who's on the committee.

2022
02:55:04,800 --> 02:55:08,720
» No, I think that's they're there. I
mean, once we get

2023
02:55:08,319 --> 02:55:12,160
» right
>> there,

2024
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:17,680
» right? grants. You know, it would be
super helpful to have somebody feeding

2025
02:55:14,640 --> 02:55:23,439
us information or us feeding them
information. Us having the city

2026
02:55:20,479 --> 02:55:28,399
representation, I am certainly happy to
include them. The only reason we didn't

2027
02:55:25,600 --> 02:55:33,760
include them is we're not excluding
them. We're just trying to keep the core

2028
02:55:30,800 --> 02:55:39,120
group of the board members, but if we
wanted to expand that, we could. Um, our

2029
02:55:37,120 --> 02:55:43,439
intent is to continue to partner with
them anyway, whether they're on the

2030
02:55:40,960 --> 02:55:47,439
board or not. I've already been working
with Shinston on doing something next

2031
02:55:45,680 --> 02:55:54,160
month,
next month with them. Um,

2032
02:55:50,960 --> 02:56:02,080
when that portion of the trail reopens,
I talked to City of Clarksburg yesterday

2033
02:55:57,840 --> 02:56:07,439
about doing something with them. Um, but
if your feeling is that they should be

2034
02:56:04,960 --> 02:56:10,640
part of the group, I am more than happy
to

2035
02:56:09,200 --> 02:56:14,319
uh make that change
>> because basically the Pike Street bikes,

2036
02:56:12,640 --> 02:56:20,760
they could represent Shenon. You would
just need somebody from W Creek and say,

2037
02:56:16,800 --> 02:56:20,760
correct? and city.

2038
02:57:38,319 --> 02:57:41,319
Fus

2039
02:57:41,439 --> 02:57:52,640
cities I want to keep pike street fights
just as a outlier want to have represent

2040
02:57:49,520 --> 02:57:57,279
I'd like to have at least
Harsburg Shston and street

2041
02:57:54,880 --> 02:58:01,399
» no I'm fine
>> I would push it to 11

2042
02:58:04,000 --> 02:58:08,439
11 voting members and then

2043
02:58:08,640 --> 02:58:12,200
keep on voting

2044
02:58:19,200 --> 02:58:28,800
» see a problem with that I don't it's
grassroots board it's good idea

2045
02:58:26,240 --> 02:58:33,399
my only comments for
So

2046
02:58:30,399 --> 02:58:33,399
allens

2047
02:58:49,920 --> 02:58:59,279
and what's it take to change the bylaws
get to that in case we want to change

2048
02:58:55,760 --> 02:59:03,439
the makeup of the or
get rid of grants and actually put some

2049
02:59:01,600 --> 02:59:06,960
other organization in or whatever
because I mean grants is always going to

2050
02:59:04,880 --> 02:59:10,840
be available to you whether they're come
to your meetings or not

2051
02:59:14,720 --> 02:59:19,880
majority of the vote of the board
members.

2052
02:59:22,479 --> 02:59:30,520
» Okay. So I just like to see it change to
11 add three cities and

2053
02:59:31,520 --> 02:59:36,200
» adding Clarksburg, Salem and Los

2054
02:59:36,399 --> 02:59:40,439
talked about this. So

2055
02:59:42,560 --> 02:59:49,040
» the four cities, correct? Shinston, Lost
Creek,

2056
02:59:46,640 --> 02:59:54,160
» St. Clarksburg
listston, Clarksburg, and Los, right?

2057
02:59:52,399 --> 03:00:00,520
» Yeah.
I forgot to say

2058
02:59:56,880 --> 03:00:00,520
» so be 12

2059
03:00:00,560 --> 03:00:05,240
» and remove grants.
>> Yeah.

2060
03:00:06,479 --> 03:00:12,120
» Always going to be there for you.
>> Save your ass.

2061
03:00:12,960 --> 03:00:18,720
» You know he can't hear.
>> All right. I will make those changes.

2062
03:00:17,680 --> 03:00:26,000
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

2063
03:00:21,279 --> 03:00:28,479
So, we're going to approve them.
>> Those corrections as noted.

2064
03:00:27,520 --> 03:00:33,760
» Yes, ma'am.
>> Okay. Any further discussion? You got

2065
03:00:31,279 --> 03:00:36,399
the motion, John?
>> Hearing none. All in favor signify by

2066
03:00:35,520 --> 03:00:41,520
saying I.
>> I.

2067
03:00:37,600 --> 03:00:47,840
» I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion
carried. Good job, girls and boys and

2068
03:00:44,560 --> 03:00:50,840
whoever was involved in this.
Okay.

2069
03:00:52,319 --> 03:01:03,479
review, discuss, consider ratifying,
vote regarding um the DS300 and express

2070
03:00:59,040 --> 03:01:03,479
pole book sales agreement.

2071
03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:10,160
» Madam President, I have the agreements
on there. It's my understanding the

2072
03:01:08,479 --> 03:01:15,600
commission wanted to move forward with
getting uh these voting machines. So

2073
03:01:13,120 --> 03:01:19,920
with that, um, we've worked hard working
with the vendor about having different

2074
03:01:17,600 --> 03:01:26,880
payments set up so it wouldn't be a lump
sum all at once. And so these are just,

2075
03:01:23,520 --> 03:01:30,880
um, the contracts, the agreements for
those

2076
03:01:28,800 --> 03:01:34,640
» on the list put us the only county in
the state doing this.

2077
03:01:32,960 --> 03:01:38,479
» There's others looking at it. I'm sorry.
I'm talking to John.

2078
03:01:35,840 --> 03:01:42,520
» There's I've spoken with several that
use the express,

2079
03:01:42,640 --> 03:01:49,600
but several counties do that. I don't
think there's very many that have the

2080
03:01:46,240 --> 03:01:53,080
DS300s just yet, but I guess also a
couple do

2081
03:01:57,600 --> 03:02:05,439
maybe 16. So, we're definitely
approaching the 10 year mark on how old

2082
03:02:02,479 --> 03:02:05,439
our stuff is.

2083
03:02:05,760 --> 03:02:14,000
We won't be first, I don't think, but we
will be a few that have all the new

2084
03:02:10,960 --> 03:02:19,240
stuff. That's what we all decide.
>> Hopefully, we'll still be able to get

2085
03:02:15,439 --> 03:02:19,240
money from the legislature.

2086
03:02:21,600 --> 03:02:29,760
» Idea is I know grant wise we can always
apply for like reimbursement stuff. So,

2087
03:02:28,319 --> 03:02:38,120
we missed this round. That was our
initial app for all of this stuff.

2088
03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:38,120
Is that right? Or it just easiest

2089
03:02:42,479 --> 03:02:48,560
to give out, but we can always give
another shot next

2090
03:02:47,279 --> 03:02:50,080
answer down there.
>> Yeah.

2091
03:02:49,439 --> 03:02:54,880
» Or better.
>> Well, they had

2092
03:02:51,840 --> 03:02:59,760
» they had a minimal amount to get
>> and they couldn't

2093
03:02:57,040 --> 03:03:05,920
probably pay for 10 express pole.
So the next round uh anything purchased

2094
03:03:02,479 --> 03:03:10,080
after February 3rd of 27
um any payment we make after February

2095
03:03:07,760 --> 03:03:15,640
3rd of 27 we can have reimbursement for.
So however you set those payment plans

2096
03:03:11,439 --> 03:03:15,640
up that would be the next rounds.

2097
03:03:18,000 --> 03:03:22,040
» Okay. Any other

2098
03:03:22,880 --> 03:03:27,479
» I know I know but it's

2099
03:03:35,200 --> 03:03:38,920
Move to approve.

2100
03:03:44,000 --> 03:03:49,920
» Well, the two to purchase DS300's
and the express.

2101
03:03:49,520 --> 03:03:55,520
» Yeah.
>> The new express pole books.

2102
03:03:51,359 --> 03:04:00,319
» Okay. DS300 and the express pole book
>> which is a tabulator. DS300 is a

2103
03:03:58,160 --> 03:04:05,840
tabulator
>> election management system is kind of a

2104
03:04:02,160 --> 03:04:12,319
couple 300 tag with in the back corner
>> per sales order agreement.

2105
03:04:09,359 --> 03:04:19,040
» Any discussion on the motion
hearing? None. All in favor signify by

2106
03:04:14,399 --> 03:04:24,880
saying I. I. Any opposed? Okay. Hearing
none. Motion carried.

2107
03:04:22,240 --> 03:04:30,960
Okay. Number 22. Review, discuss,
consider request from county garage to

2108
03:04:27,279 --> 03:04:35,680
dispose of excess vehicles.
>> Madam President, there's just a couple

2109
03:04:32,479 --> 03:04:41,439
vehicles that we have um used every part
possible off of them. No longer can take

2110
03:04:38,800 --> 03:04:45,760
anything off of them. Worth value or use
to us. So, the garage would like to take

2111
03:04:43,520 --> 03:04:52,279
them to a scrapyard and sell them. They
just want the commission's approval. The

2112
03:04:48,080 --> 03:04:52,279
money of course comes back into general

2113
03:05:00,399 --> 03:05:10,800
their idea of excess vehicles is
two that purchase junk. They don't have

2114
03:05:08,000 --> 03:05:14,800
any other excess vehicles.
>> So there are excess vehicles but we have

2115
03:05:12,640 --> 03:05:18,319
sold a couple recently on gov deals.
These ones

2116
03:05:17,200 --> 03:05:22,319
We're not going to be able to sell them
or anything on deals with no one's going

2117
03:05:20,479 --> 03:05:27,640
to be able to use parts or anything. So
that's why they are requesting for these

2118
03:05:23,920 --> 03:05:27,640
ones to go to the scrapyard.

2119
03:05:30,880 --> 03:05:34,359
Move to

2120
03:05:34,800 --> 03:05:44,160
direct the county to Rosose of
excess vehicles that need to go to the

2121
03:05:42,240 --> 03:05:50,760
chunky yard.
>> Yes. Thank you.

2122
03:05:47,279 --> 03:05:50,760
Okay. You

2123
03:05:52,640 --> 03:05:58,960
» They got They got your name on the side
of them. So,

2124
03:05:56,000 --> 03:06:02,240
» they're all way under the $10,000.
>> Yes, they are.

2125
03:05:59,600 --> 03:06:06,560
» Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
>> No, they are.

2126
03:06:04,560 --> 03:06:12,359
I just don't want to step on B's toes,
but I was over there the other day and I

2127
03:06:08,160 --> 03:06:12,359
thought I said use car lot.

2128
03:06:12,800 --> 03:06:21,600
Okay. So, the motion is to allow the
county garage to dispose of the excess

2129
03:06:19,359 --> 03:06:26,000
vehicles.
Is there any further discussion?

2130
03:06:24,160 --> 03:06:29,359
Hearing none. All in favor signify by
saying I.

2131
03:06:27,040 --> 03:06:34,160
» I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion
carried. Number 23. Review, discuss,

2132
03:06:31,439 --> 03:06:40,960
consider Susan Morris's resignation from
public defenders corporation board of

2133
03:06:37,279 --> 03:06:44,960
director directors.
Madame President, I needed approval from

2134
03:06:42,800 --> 03:06:49,200
the commission to accept Susan Morris's
resignation. Uh she is our appointment

2135
03:06:47,279 --> 03:06:52,680
to the public defenders corporation
board of directors.

2136
03:06:53,040 --> 03:06:58,640
» Move to approve Susan Morris's
resignation from the public defenders

2137
03:06:57,200 --> 03:07:03,600
corporation.
>> Motion to approve Susan Morris's

2138
03:07:01,040 --> 03:07:08,240
resignation from the public defenders
corporation. Is there any discussion?

2139
03:07:06,319 --> 03:07:14,080
Hearing none, all in favor signify by
saying I. I. Any opposed? Hearing none.

2140
03:07:11,200 --> 03:07:17,600
Motion carried. Now number 24. Review,
discuss, consider appointing Elizabeth

2141
03:07:16,000 --> 03:07:22,800
Gross to the Public Defenders
Corporation Board of Directors.

2142
03:07:20,080 --> 03:07:27,920
» Madam President, we reached out to um
George George Fordham, the chair of the

2143
03:07:26,319 --> 03:07:33,760
Harrison County West Virginia Public
Defenders Corporation, asked him um who

2144
03:07:30,720 --> 03:07:38,640
his recommendation would be, and he
talked to his board members. The

2145
03:07:35,359 --> 03:07:42,680
recommendation for um the replacement
would be Miss Gross.

2146
03:07:47,520 --> 03:07:51,359
» Make me feel better.
>> Well, he's talking about George.

2147
03:07:50,479 --> 03:07:57,359
» Go ahead.
>> And move to approve appointing Elizabeth

2148
03:07:55,279 --> 03:08:01,359
Gross to Public Defender Corporation
Board of Directors.

2149
03:07:58,880 --> 03:08:04,720
» Okay. Motion to appoint Elizabeth Gross
to the Public Defenders Corporation

2150
03:08:02,880 --> 03:08:09,680
Board of Directors. Any discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor signify by

2151
03:08:06,880 --> 03:08:13,520
saying I. I. Any opposed? Hearing none.
Motion carried. Number 25. Review

2152
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:17,840
discuss. Consider appointing a new
fidiciary commissioner.

2153
03:08:15,600 --> 03:08:21,920
» Madame President, I would ask that the
commission just table this item so it

2154
03:08:19,760 --> 03:08:26,720
can be brought back at any time. We've
reached out a few people. Um, at this

2155
03:08:24,319 --> 03:08:30,080
time they are not going to be able to
take on that res.

2156
03:08:27,920 --> 03:08:34,720
» Both those ones can't do it.
>> So the one is no. the other we haven't

2157
03:08:32,960 --> 03:08:38,720
heard back from and even Trey was
reaching out to some individuals.

2158
03:08:36,880 --> 03:08:45,200
» Well, Jim Barner, so I have to reach out
to him again. He was gonna ask him.

2159
03:08:43,279 --> 03:08:49,680
» No, he's doing it, but he I wonder I
asked him if he had any suggestions.

2160
03:08:48,800 --> 03:08:52,880
So,
>> June sent over a couple of his

2161
03:08:51,120 --> 03:08:56,560
suggestions months ago when we start
trying to fill this. Um, one of the two

2162
03:08:55,120 --> 03:09:00,880
» he was out of the country.
>> Yeah. But one of the two individuals was

2163
03:08:58,640 --> 03:09:04,880
a name that he recommended.
um who is not going to take it at this

2164
03:09:03,359 --> 03:09:06,800
time, but he has a lot on display right
now.

2165
03:09:05,120 --> 03:09:11,279
» There's one.
>> Okay.

2166
03:09:09,600 --> 03:09:15,279
So, we're going to table this.
>> I would like it to be tabled. That way,

2167
03:09:12,800 --> 03:09:19,279
as soon as we finally get confirmation,
we can bring it off the agenda, tabled

2168
03:09:17,520 --> 03:09:22,640
items, and approve that appointment.
>> Okay.

2169
03:09:21,760 --> 03:09:26,640
» The table.
>> Motion to table.

2170
03:09:24,160 --> 03:09:30,399
» All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. I.

2171
03:09:28,479 --> 03:09:34,800
» Did you want to say something else? No,
I just it seems that we just can't find

2172
03:09:32,800 --> 03:09:40,240
anybody wants to do it and I don't know
how to fix that whether it's money issue

2173
03:09:38,720 --> 03:09:44,319
or it's time issue
>> but I think there's only so much money

2174
03:09:42,000 --> 03:09:48,840
that we can
>> Yeah.

2175
03:09:45,520 --> 03:09:48,840
» But you allow

2176
03:10:01,600 --> 03:10:05,399
also doesn't have to be.

2177
03:10:06,800 --> 03:10:12,359
» I wouldn't want to.
>> It should be.

2178
03:10:08,880 --> 03:10:12,359
» Yes, it should.

2179
03:10:13,520 --> 03:10:18,000
Okay.
>> Thank you.

2180
03:10:15,840 --> 03:10:22,800
» Number 26. Review, discuss, consider
letter. The West Virginia Alcohol

2181
03:10:20,319 --> 03:10:28,880
Beverage Control Administration for West
Virginia Hotspot.net

2182
03:10:25,040 --> 03:10:31,200
Net LLC doing business as the Dola Dairy
Market.

2183
03:10:29,600 --> 03:10:35,439
» Yes, Madame President. This actually
came before us back in January of this

2184
03:10:33,359 --> 03:10:38,640
year, but they're adding another name to
the license. So, it has to go back

2185
03:10:36,800 --> 03:10:46,439
through a commission meeting. Um,
they're requesting it to be approved so

2186
03:10:40,880 --> 03:10:46,439
they can apply for the ABCA licensing.

2187
03:10:47,359 --> 03:10:56,880
» Move to approve agenda item 26 to the
West Virginia hotspot.net at LLC doing

2188
03:10:54,479 --> 03:11:00,080
business at Doaring Court
>> and fix the signatures.

2189
03:10:58,000 --> 03:11:08,479
» And fix signatures.
>> Motion to approve the

2190
03:11:04,399 --> 03:11:12,800
letter to the alcohol beverage control
administration for the West Virginia

2191
03:11:10,000 --> 03:11:17,200
hotspot.net LLC doing businesses at Dola
Darart and a fix the appropriate

2192
03:11:14,399 --> 03:11:20,319
signatures. Any discussion? Hearing
none. All in favor signify by saying I.

2193
03:11:19,600 --> 03:11:25,439
I.
>> Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion

2194
03:11:23,279 --> 03:11:28,319
carried. Review. Dis number 27. Review,
discuss, consider a resolution

2195
03:11:26,800 --> 03:11:31,920
authorizing the filing of the
application for fund from the West

2196
03:11:30,000 --> 03:11:36,880
Virginia Department of Transportation
fiscal year 2026

2197
03:11:34,319 --> 03:11:40,560
recreational trail program grant.
>> Yeah, that grant will be uh we got an

2198
03:11:38,960 --> 03:11:45,600
estimate from Thrasher. I think he was
talking earlier today. Uh that'll be

2199
03:11:42,560 --> 03:11:51,760
from Camden Street to Height Field. Now
there will be an amendment to that

2200
03:11:47,040 --> 03:11:56,960
resolution. um the the um financial
numbers on there that's actually

2201
03:11:52,880 --> 03:12:01,840
$250,000 with a $50,000 match. Now that
uh estimate from Thrasher comes in over

2202
03:11:59,200 --> 03:12:07,040
$400,000. So we're going to prioritize
what parts u will do one would be the

2203
03:12:05,200 --> 03:12:11,439
ditching which is a large portion of
that money. So that'll be 250 plus a

2204
03:12:09,680 --> 03:12:14,960
$50,000 match on that grant. But it
won't take care of everything according

2205
03:12:12,960 --> 03:12:17,439
to the estimate.
We still need to figure out what

2206
03:12:16,240 --> 03:12:21,479
Clarksburg's doing.
>> Yeah.

2207
03:12:18,479 --> 03:12:21,479
» Okay.

2208
03:12:23,439 --> 03:12:32,319
» So, what do we want to do with 27?
>> Move to approved resolution authorizing

2209
03:12:29,920 --> 03:12:38,240
the application for fund West Virginia
Department of Transportation physical

2210
03:12:34,720 --> 03:12:44,720
year 2026 for recreational trail program
grant fixed appropriate signatures.

2211
03:12:42,479 --> 03:12:47,680
Motion to approve the resolution
authorizing the filing of the

2212
03:12:46,080 --> 03:12:52,319
application for the fund from West
Virginia Department of Transportation

2213
03:12:49,040 --> 03:12:56,319
for fiscal year 2026 recreational trail
program grant and a fix the appropriate

2214
03:12:54,800 --> 03:13:01,120
signature.
Any discussion hearing? None. All in

2215
03:12:58,560 --> 03:13:06,319
favor signify by saying I. I. Any
opposed? Hearing none. Motion carried.

2216
03:13:03,520 --> 03:13:10,560
Thank you. Number 28. Review, discuss,
consider resolution authorizing the

2217
03:13:08,160 --> 03:13:16,000
filing of the application of US
Department of Justice for fiscal year

2218
03:13:12,800 --> 03:13:21,359
2026 bridging immigration related
deficits experienced nationwide program.

2219
03:13:18,960 --> 03:13:24,960
» Uh yeah, that's a large uh grant. It'll
be somewhere in the neighborhood of

2220
03:13:22,399 --> 03:13:31,640
about $4.5 million. A collaborative
effort involving uh agencies with the

2221
03:13:27,439 --> 03:13:31,640
Greater Harrison Drug Task Force.

2222
03:13:33,120 --> 03:13:40,319
Who's actually filing the grant?
>> It'll be through the sheriff's office.

2223
03:13:38,960 --> 03:13:44,479
» You all file the grant.
>> Yeah. It comes from the commission, but

2224
03:13:41,920 --> 03:13:48,239
the agency will be the sheriff's office
under under the commission

2225
03:13:45,920 --> 03:13:50,399
» who oversees the distribution of the
funds.

2226
03:13:49,600 --> 03:13:56,120
» Well,
>> it will be through the county sheriff's

2227
03:13:53,120 --> 03:13:56,120
office.

2228
03:13:59,439 --> 03:14:03,359
» Yeah. I mean, I'll be doing the
reporting.

2229
03:14:03,680 --> 03:14:09,439
there's a required partnership under the
two

2230
03:14:07,279 --> 03:14:15,680
agreement that the sheriff's office
already has in place um with our federal

2231
03:14:12,319 --> 03:14:18,479
partners. Um so we meet that threshold
through sheriff's cooperation with our

2232
03:14:17,920 --> 03:14:23,439
federal partners
>> and we're going to use the

2233
03:14:21,040 --> 03:14:29,040
this money for
what are we going to use the money for?

2234
03:14:25,680 --> 03:14:31,920
» Many things. Um, have you was the grant
proposal? I don't know if it's in front

2235
03:14:30,399 --> 03:14:36,640
of you all or not.
>> No, just a resolution. I did pass along.

2236
03:14:34,960 --> 03:14:40,080
Um, I don't have that in front of you. I
should have brought that in. All the

2237
03:14:38,239 --> 03:14:43,920
components as far as uh
>> I have you have Yeah.

2238
03:14:42,479 --> 03:14:47,200
» You have the Biden grant.
>> He has the Sure.

2239
03:14:45,359 --> 03:14:49,279
» notification of funding
>> from you.

2240
03:14:48,080 --> 03:14:52,560
» No, you got that on your own. I don't
think I gave you notification.

2241
03:14:50,560 --> 03:14:59,439
» That's fine. Sure. Um, some of what has
been discussed is for um, limited

2242
03:14:55,840 --> 03:15:07,279
personnel. We can seek personnel for up
to a three-year time period. I know

2243
03:15:01,439 --> 03:15:12,160
under my office, we will seek um, three
allotments for two attorneys and a

2244
03:15:09,760 --> 03:15:16,160
support staff person. Um, obviously with
the caveat if we can find people that

2245
03:15:14,239 --> 03:15:20,800
they would only be guaranteed a
three-year contract um, while this grant

2246
03:15:18,640 --> 03:15:23,840
is in place. um you know, anything
further than that would have to be

2247
03:15:22,239 --> 03:15:27,920
discussions with the commission or if
attrition has occurred within the

2248
03:15:25,760 --> 03:15:33,040
office, things like that can occur. Um I
do have some older attorneys that would

2249
03:15:30,479 --> 03:15:37,200
not be something that I couldn't foresee
happening during that three-year time

2250
03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:42,239
period. Um there's some analysts that
we're asking for um under the sheriff's

2251
03:15:40,080 --> 03:15:48,560
office in conjunction with the West
Virginia Fusion Center um to help aid

2252
03:15:45,680 --> 03:15:53,680
with some of the numbers that um we're
tracking and dealing with. Uh there's

2253
03:15:51,359 --> 03:15:58,720
cameras for law enforcement, there's
vehicles for law enforcement. The beauty

2254
03:15:56,399 --> 03:16:03,760
of it is is there's no match requirement
from the commission. It's literally just

2255
03:16:00,720 --> 03:16:08,160
an ask on our part. um and the federal
government either wants to give it to us

2256
03:16:05,520 --> 03:16:14,560
because of our cooperation and the
numbers that we're supplying to them. Um

2257
03:16:12,000 --> 03:16:20,640
we have, as everybody in this room
knows, a very um active drug problem. Um

2258
03:16:18,560 --> 03:16:26,160
we also have a very active drug task
force that is made up of um many members

2259
03:16:24,319 --> 03:16:30,720
but multiple police departments. Uh
Clarksburg, the sheriff's department, my

2260
03:16:28,640 --> 03:16:36,640
office, uh Bridgeport Police Department,
and the state police. Um so a lot of our

2261
03:16:33,279 --> 03:16:41,439
asks are going towards outfitting um
some of those departments so that we can

2262
03:16:39,359 --> 03:16:47,120
continue focusing on the transnational
crime uh that we have occurring here and

2263
03:16:44,880 --> 03:16:52,479
combating that. Um, and the Biden grant
specifically allows for that. Now,

2264
03:16:50,560 --> 03:16:57,279
whether we get what we asked for, who
knows? Um, maybe they'll line item veto

2265
03:16:55,520 --> 03:17:02,720
certain things and give us certain
things. I mean, that's certainly

2266
03:16:59,279 --> 03:17:09,120
expected. Um, so it's a relatively large
ask on our part, but it's expected to be

2267
03:17:05,520 --> 03:17:14,800
a large ask by the states and local
entities that are seeking this. Uh, we

2268
03:17:11,520 --> 03:17:18,560
missed the first round of funding. Um
this is the second round of funding. We

2269
03:17:16,800 --> 03:17:23,520
would certainly like to get our request
in during this round of funding. There

2270
03:17:21,200 --> 03:17:28,880
is $3 billion
that is being allocated and earmarked

2271
03:17:26,160 --> 03:17:33,359
under this grant by the federal um by
the Department of Justice. Um I think we

2272
03:17:31,680 --> 03:17:40,479
stand a good chance of getting some of
the funds. um

2273
03:17:36,479 --> 03:17:45,200
given our cooperation that we are I mean
a red state I believe probably blue

2274
03:17:43,680 --> 03:17:50,080
states aren't getting anything. Let's
call it what it is. It's probably not

2275
03:17:46,880 --> 03:17:54,640
going to happen under this initiative.
>> Some of the other items on there to be

2276
03:17:52,720 --> 03:18:03,520
able to pay over a five-year program or
five-year period are uh CAD costs are um

2277
03:17:59,279 --> 03:18:07,120
uh cell phone cost. Uh there's also u uh
digital forensics, ballistics

2278
03:18:05,359 --> 03:18:10,080
identification as well to be part of
this.

2279
03:18:07,439 --> 03:18:14,960
» I put in the software program costs for
the next five years that we've agreed to

2280
03:18:12,399 --> 03:18:19,439
do. Um
there are uh

2281
03:18:16,720 --> 03:18:23,040
» I mean this isn't for a specific
I mean you're saying drugs. Is that it

2282
03:18:21,120 --> 03:18:25,760
or are we doing something else other
than

2283
03:18:23,200 --> 03:18:31,840
» Well, the 287G cooperation is with the
federal authorities for immigration

2284
03:18:28,080 --> 03:18:35,680
related issues and our drug epidemic
certainly stems from the transnational

2285
03:18:34,560 --> 03:18:39,040
crime and that means
>> turn into a little

2286
03:18:37,600 --> 03:18:43,680
» don't want to say what I'm
>> I don't know what I can't finish your

2287
03:18:40,960 --> 03:18:46,800
thought. I apologize.
>> Our angle on this is to address the drug

2288
03:18:46,000 --> 03:18:50,880
issue
>> which is in the county. Yeah, that's

2289
03:18:48,800 --> 03:18:56,640
certainly what we're seeking and that
our drugs are stemming from Mexico. Now,

2290
03:18:54,560 --> 03:19:01,200
do we see
specific gang related illegal

2291
03:18:59,200 --> 03:19:06,000
immigration activity? Not so much in
West Virginia when it's what you're

2292
03:19:04,080 --> 03:19:10,520
thinking about. But that's absolutely
what is bringing our drugs here.

2293
03:19:21,520 --> 03:19:25,600
But we're not going to just pull over
people.

2294
03:19:23,760 --> 03:19:28,600
» No, that's not even what we're asking
for.

2295
03:19:35,920 --> 03:19:41,479
our subscriptions for that right

2296
03:19:41,680 --> 03:19:44,680
digital

2297
03:19:45,520 --> 03:19:49,080
like she said

2298
03:19:50,319 --> 03:19:57,840
some things here and there like the two
investigative

2299
03:19:54,880 --> 03:20:02,880
forensic
Parish and county specifically

2300
03:20:00,239 --> 03:20:05,279
collaborate with state center. Those are
kind of the ideas of everything.

2301
03:20:04,560 --> 03:20:08,880
» It's really,
>> is that something like if she hires

2302
03:20:07,279 --> 03:20:10,160
three people in her office, they're
going to be

2303
03:20:09,600 --> 03:20:14,399
» right.
>> Okay. It's gonna be based on

2304
03:20:12,479 --> 03:20:17,040
» Okay.
>> They have to know that. Am I

2305
03:20:15,680 --> 03:20:21,040
» I just want to
>> Same with the analyst. Is that what

2306
03:20:18,239 --> 03:20:24,040
you're asking? Sure. Certainly.
like

2307
03:20:27,760 --> 03:20:30,760
pressure.

2308
03:20:32,000 --> 03:20:39,680
» It's it's a very broad grant um and they
have focused on providing it to the

2309
03:20:37,600 --> 03:20:45,120
states and the local jurisdictions as
opposed to um giving it out federally.

2310
03:20:43,040 --> 03:20:50,880
That was a very purposeful move under
this grant. Um we would be remiss and

2311
03:20:48,080 --> 03:20:57,359
quite frankly stupid to not at least try
to get some of these funds um in our

2312
03:20:53,439 --> 03:21:02,800
county and to help with um enforcement
and then prosecution and vehicles for

2313
03:21:00,960 --> 03:21:06,560
task force officers that are the boots
on the ground out there combating this.

2314
03:21:05,359 --> 03:21:13,439
I mean basically that's what we're
heavyhitting here is the drug epidemic

2315
03:21:09,040 --> 03:21:17,439
because it stems from outside of our
borders. It stems from China with

2316
03:21:15,359 --> 03:21:22,319
fentanyl production that is comes
through Mexico and then is distributed

2317
03:21:20,080 --> 03:21:29,680
nationwide onto the streets. I mean, we
see it here every day. Um, that's where

2318
03:21:26,720 --> 03:21:35,359
our partnership um comes in with our
federal partners and it's also in

2319
03:21:31,279 --> 03:21:42,080
discussing with our um US attorneys and
our ATF and our DEA agents. Um I we will

2320
03:21:39,359 --> 03:21:46,800
be uh seeking and I've been told that we
will get a letter of support from the US

2321
03:21:44,160 --> 03:21:52,399
attorney here in the northern district.
Um so it's a collaboration on many

2322
03:21:49,680 --> 03:21:57,680
levels but the money comes to us which
is you know very nice that we get to

2323
03:21:55,359 --> 03:22:00,160
» going to reduce present staff.
>> Excuse me.

2324
03:21:58,160 --> 03:22:01,680
» Is this going to reduce present staff?
>> Present staff.

2325
03:22:01,279 --> 03:22:06,239
» Yeah.
>> In what regard?

2326
03:22:03,359 --> 03:22:10,560
» We're bring on three new
prosecutors. that we're going to be able

2327
03:22:08,160 --> 03:22:15,279
to keep three prosecutors busy.
>> Oh my god. If I could ask you for as

2328
03:22:13,040 --> 03:22:19,680
many prosecutors and support staff as I
want, it would be more than that. It

2329
03:22:17,680 --> 03:22:24,080
would be more than that. What we do in
my office and his office is we have to

2330
03:22:21,439 --> 03:22:32,080
triage. I mean, the time that we get to
dedicate to certain cases and building

2331
03:22:27,920 --> 03:22:38,399
even better files um is where
we don't see the necessary manpower. You

2332
03:22:35,760 --> 03:22:41,359
have to all lot the time that you can as
much as you can to each specific

2333
03:22:40,399 --> 03:22:47,120
» specialist.
>> It would help each individual attorney

2334
03:22:44,239 --> 03:22:51,600
and yeah with their case load with
working these cases with talking to our

2335
03:22:49,200 --> 03:22:57,200
federal partners with building broader
cases, bigger cases. Um, I don't know

2336
03:22:55,120 --> 03:23:00,080
that any county in the state has the
luxury of doing that. And I'm not sure

2337
03:22:58,640 --> 03:23:04,560
that this would give us that luxury
entirely, but it's certainly a help for

2338
03:23:02,560 --> 03:23:06,399
three years, you know, if we can get
that.

2339
03:23:05,200 --> 03:23:08,479
» I have no idea what they're going to
give us in the end. Yeah.

2340
03:23:07,600 --> 03:23:12,319
» But it's an ask.
>> Yeah. And I completely understand your

2341
03:23:10,640 --> 03:23:15,040
concerns about what, but that's not
where we're headed with this. So, I

2342
03:23:13,359 --> 03:23:18,880
think there's a there a good proposal
here because we have multiple agencies.

2343
03:23:17,359 --> 03:23:23,920
We part we're part of Hide the High
intensity uh drug traffic area. uh we

2344
03:23:22,080 --> 03:23:26,160
receive a grant through that to pay
overtime for those gentlemen on the task

2345
03:23:25,520 --> 03:23:29,680
force.
>> Oh, I'm not really concerned. I know

2346
03:23:27,840 --> 03:23:35,520
these people would do their job and
>> yeah, so it's neiating financial burden

2347
03:23:32,319 --> 03:23:39,920
from the county along with uh increasing
enforcement a opportunities.

2348
03:23:38,479 --> 03:23:44,960
» So, one thing I'd like to add and
Rachel, you can correct me if I'm wrong,

2349
03:23:42,000 --> 03:23:49,680
but not every county in the state of
West Virginia or law enforcement agency

2350
03:23:47,680 --> 03:23:55,120
or whatever is going to be able to apply
for this. You have to be 287G, which we

2351
03:23:52,640 --> 03:23:58,880
are, and not many.
>> The sheriff could probably speak better

2352
03:23:56,800 --> 03:24:04,560
to which counties participated in that
versus which ones did not. Um, we yes,

2353
03:24:02,080 --> 03:24:10,239
we do have that status already. And that
is one of the hurdles that we already

2354
03:24:06,399 --> 03:24:14,880
meet in getting this um grant, what
whatever we request approved.

2355
03:24:13,359 --> 03:24:18,359
many
across the state

2356
03:24:18,560 --> 03:24:26,960
agreement last year at this time.
>> Rush, you got all theus with the

2357
03:24:25,760 --> 03:24:30,399
departments that are going to be
involved with this.

2358
03:24:28,479 --> 03:24:33,600
» He has the task force.
>> Task force and I did get the 2D7g this

2359
03:24:33,200 --> 03:24:36,960
morning.
>> We just have one.

2360
03:24:34,720 --> 03:24:42,080
» They're all
>> We just have one first, one outfit that

2361
03:24:39,439 --> 03:24:45,200
we're doing this with, but we have an
with

2362
03:24:42,640 --> 03:24:48,479
» so we have all agencies throughout the
county

2363
03:24:46,000 --> 03:24:50,800
» but he's got to submit them so that's
why I'm asking

2364
03:24:49,120 --> 03:24:53,600
» yes so I'll submit theus
>> you got all theou

2365
03:24:52,239 --> 03:24:58,479
» not at this time but I will that'll be
easy to easy to have

2366
03:24:56,319 --> 03:25:02,239
» our submission date is
>> well you have two submission dates 19th

2367
03:25:00,160 --> 03:25:05,640
and 21st always want to be ahead ofhead
of the game there

2368
03:25:07,359 --> 03:25:14,880
» we're talking the 14th is what we were
talking about so yeah there's

2369
03:25:11,600 --> 03:25:19,399
Yeah, the DOJ has two submission two
websites to go through, two submission

2370
03:25:16,399 --> 03:25:19,399
deadlines.

2371
03:25:34,399 --> 03:25:41,279
I mean, we're the only people that
didn't ask you for money today.

2372
03:25:39,359 --> 03:25:43,760
I feel like this is an easier one,
right?

2373
03:25:41,600 --> 03:25:47,600
» Well, it isn't. It isn't. I mean, I I've
read through this like about five times

2374
03:25:45,760 --> 03:25:49,439
and I have reservations. I'll just be
honest.

2375
03:25:47,840 --> 03:25:51,920
» Tell me what they are so I can
understand

2376
03:25:50,000 --> 03:25:56,800
» because it's the goal is to increase
carry out location, apprehension,

2377
03:25:53,840 --> 03:26:01,600
detention, investigation, prosecution,
but illegal aliens.

2378
03:25:58,640 --> 03:26:07,520
» Part of it is you need to read
aliens and drug human trafficking

2379
03:26:04,319 --> 03:26:12,479
predators all related to illegal aliens.
All drugs in this county are coming from

2380
03:26:10,479 --> 03:26:17,200
other nations.
>> But it talks about detention centers.

2381
03:26:15,040 --> 03:26:19,680
» Well, that's we could have that that's
one avenue we could have written this

2382
03:26:19,120 --> 03:26:23,120
going to.
>> I just have apprehensions.

2383
03:26:21,359 --> 03:26:26,239
» But that's not the avenue you took. Was
that we did not take that avenue? Not

2384
03:26:25,359 --> 03:26:30,319
even
>> that's the avenue.

2385
03:26:27,840 --> 03:26:32,319
» As long as they know that that's that
we're not going to be out chasing

2386
03:26:31,840 --> 03:26:36,239
illegally.
>> And I think that that is our hurdle

2387
03:26:34,000 --> 03:26:41,200
because that is not how we submitted it.
Um I mean it's bridging the immigration

2388
03:26:39,760 --> 03:26:46,960
related deficit
>> there. It's absolutely what it is but it

2389
03:26:43,600 --> 03:26:49,680
gives seven different caveats basically
>> beneficial for your all's purpose.

2390
03:26:48,960 --> 03:26:52,160
» Yes.
>> And now that

2391
03:26:50,960 --> 03:26:56,720
» we're writing example
>> had we wr written it the other way and

2392
03:26:54,720 --> 03:27:01,760
I'm sure some law enforcement entities
have maybe it's going to be easier to

2393
03:26:58,960 --> 03:27:08,640
get the funding. I we may have a hurdle
in getting the funding because of the

2394
03:27:03,680 --> 03:27:13,040
way we are going to approach it. Um
>> of course you always have to write the

2395
03:27:10,239 --> 03:27:16,960
proposal to to fit your need and that's
what that's what the law enforcement

2396
03:27:14,640 --> 03:27:20,200
need is and that's the approach that
we're taking.

2397
03:27:20,239 --> 03:27:26,920
» So I don't think that uh
>> motion to approve

2398
03:27:27,040 --> 03:27:30,040
authorizing

2399
03:27:33,439 --> 03:27:41,120
the for the filing of the application to
the US Department justice fiscal year

2400
03:27:39,200 --> 03:27:48,560
2026.
I hate to say that's all I'm saying.

2401
03:27:45,680 --> 03:27:50,720
» Okay. Motion as stated by Commissioner
Hankle.

2402
03:27:50,080 --> 03:27:53,840
You got that?
>> I don't say the rest.

2403
03:27:52,080 --> 03:27:58,960
» Okay.
Any further discussion hearing? None.

2404
03:27:56,080 --> 03:28:03,680
All in favor signify by saying I. I. Any
opposed? None. Motion carried. Good

2405
03:28:01,600 --> 03:28:07,200
luck.
>> Guys, please watch how you write this

2406
03:28:05,359 --> 03:28:09,279
one because this one scares me.
>> If you'd like to see it before it's

2407
03:28:08,640 --> 03:28:12,319
submitted,
>> we've been very careful on that.

2408
03:28:10,720 --> 03:28:16,319
» Okay. I'm just
>> just saying I mean it I normally don't

2409
03:28:14,640 --> 03:28:20,160
del.
It's that stinking name right there on

2410
03:28:18,880 --> 03:28:24,720
top of
>> what it involves and just bothers me.

2411
03:28:23,760 --> 03:28:31,840
which
>> the immigration part

2412
03:28:27,520 --> 03:28:38,040
» every so much of it tied to immigration.
>> It is there's there's no way around it

2413
03:28:34,239 --> 03:28:38,040
is part of the

2414
03:28:38,479 --> 03:28:46,439
I said
>> we tailored ours force

2415
03:28:42,560 --> 03:28:46,439
the drives that come in

2416
03:28:47,760 --> 03:28:53,520
» I just don't want to find oursel trying
to figure out how to pay something for

2417
03:28:50,720 --> 03:28:58,000
the back because we didn't
out of cover. That's all.

2418
03:28:55,760 --> 03:29:03,920
» It's a lot of money.
>> I want to pay that back.

2419
03:29:00,960 --> 03:29:07,680
» One of your one of your bigger ask
>> biggest one.

2420
03:29:06,000 --> 03:29:10,319
» You'll I think you should look at it.
You'll see that we don't sugarcoat what

2421
03:29:09,600 --> 03:29:11,120
we're asking.
>> Yes.

2422
03:29:10,720 --> 03:29:12,000
» Okay.
>> Yeah.

2423
03:29:11,439 --> 03:29:15,279
» I mean, that's
>> we don't make it up. We don't have the

2424
03:29:14,160 --> 03:29:19,520
other
>> There's no fluff.

2425
03:29:17,200 --> 03:29:21,040
» It just is what it is. We get it or we
don't.

2426
03:29:20,000 --> 03:29:25,120
» I appreciate it.
>> Yeah. appreciate trying,

2427
03:29:23,760 --> 03:29:30,800
utilizing his floor.
>> Just wish that he didn't have to keep

2428
03:29:27,040 --> 03:29:34,359
tying all this other to help him.
>> Be nice to see

2429
03:29:34,800 --> 03:29:39,080
» the other part of it really is.

2430
03:29:39,120 --> 03:29:44,800
» Okay, I'm going to move on to number 29
before we all get into something we

2431
03:29:43,120 --> 03:29:48,960
don't need to get into.
>> Okay.

2432
03:29:46,640 --> 03:29:55,120
Review, discuss, consider travel
requests from 911 employees to go to the

2433
03:29:52,160 --> 03:30:01,120
SIRN conference at Camp Dawson, West
Virginia on September 27th through

2434
03:29:57,359 --> 03:30:04,120
October 2nd for Justin Norman and Trevor
Bates.

2435
03:30:04,720 --> 03:30:09,760
» Madame President, this is for two of our
911 dispatchers to go to the Siren

2436
03:30:08,640 --> 03:30:14,560
Conference, which is state
interoperability radio network. Um, it's

2437
03:30:12,319 --> 03:30:19,880
always held at Camp Dawson. It's a very
beneficial um conference for them to

2438
03:30:16,880 --> 03:30:19,880
attend.

2439
03:30:20,399 --> 03:30:28,800
» Move to approve 29 A and B.
>> Motion to approve number 29 A and B for

2440
03:30:26,239 --> 03:30:33,439
travel. Is there any discussion? Hearing
none. All in favor signify by saying I.

2441
03:30:31,279 --> 03:30:37,840
I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion
carried. Okay. Number 30, Laura.

2442
03:30:36,160 --> 03:30:41,279
» I'm going to keep it short. Two things.
One, I think the sidewalk looks great in

2443
03:30:39,840 --> 03:30:46,479
front of the courthouse. I think it came
out nice. Um, two, just a reminder that

2444
03:30:43,840 --> 03:30:52,720
the Shinsen Rail Trail portion that was
closed um for the slip repair is still

2445
03:30:50,239 --> 03:30:57,920
closed. It has not opened yet. We do
have a walk through with um the

2446
03:30:56,000 --> 03:31:02,399
contractors and stuff tomorrow.
Hopefully, we can get a better update to

2447
03:31:00,399 --> 03:31:07,840
where we are, but I know for some reason
there's been a post that it is open. It

2448
03:31:04,319 --> 03:31:11,760
is not open. Please say, but that's all
I have.

2449
03:31:09,120 --> 03:31:14,880
» Okay. Commissioner Hankle.
Uh

2450
03:31:13,279 --> 03:31:20,239
the only thing that I have if you
brought up is do we still have anou

2451
03:31:17,840 --> 03:31:23,239
between us and the share and the rail
train

2452
03:31:24,399 --> 03:31:28,600
on what their duties are going to

2453
03:31:35,040 --> 03:31:38,040
» Yes.

2454
03:31:41,680 --> 03:31:49,560
Yeah, we have.
>> Sure. We actually have a red one.

2455
03:31:50,479 --> 03:31:56,920
» If you could check on that. That's all I
have.

2456
03:31:53,359 --> 03:31:56,920
» I have nothing.

2457
03:31:59,120 --> 03:32:04,319
» Motion to adjurnn.
>> Motion to adjurnn. All in favor signify

2458
03:32:02,800 --> 03:32:08,880
by saying I. I.
>> I. Any opposed? Motion carried.