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What's about there like the guys that'll be staying there. Good afternoon everybody.

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Please turn your microphones on.

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Tyler, can you hear me OK? Can you hear me? Yes, sir.

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All right. Welcome everybody to the October 14th, 2026 Property Standards Board meeting.

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I call this meeting in order. Uh, the property store, property standards board members

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in attendance are myself, Ron Dethelston, Colleen Dickey, and Bob Kingry.

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Bear with me while I read this prepared statement.

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Today is the October 14, 2026 meeting of the Hartford City Property Standards Board.

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I've just introduced the three property standards Board members, and these will be

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the voting members. City staff members today are Ordnance Control Officer Dennis

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Maddox. We have no police representation here as of yet. Acting as administrators,

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Tyler Rothstein is a city attorney who is on Zoom, Mayor Dan Eckstein, who is at

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the opposite end of the table, and Nikki Grider to my right is the recording secretary.

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The Unsafe Building Law, Indiana Code 36-7-9 and chapter 152 of the Hartford City

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Code of Ordances is hereby entered into the record. Please be advised that today's

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proceedings are being live streamed and recorded per state statute. I would ask that

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you would silence or turn off your phone so we don't have any competing uh noise.

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For new cases set for hearing today, a reasonable effort has been made to notify

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the owners of this hearing, and the orders is being reviewed. The owner of record

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and any entity with a recorded substantial property interest has been notified by

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posting on the property, certified mail, and published in the newspaper. We will

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call each case set for the hearing today and take action on the cases in the order

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listed in the meeting agenda, starting with the properties that have an owner and

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or representative signed in, and we will take these as you signed in in that order

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for those who are in attendance. If you are not the owner but wish to testify about

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a property on today's agenda, please identify yourself as an interested party when

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the property is called. The city staff members as agents of the enforcement agency

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for the Herbert City Property Standards Board will attend. will present the city's

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evidence about the condition of the property. You will then be asked to present your

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evidence. Please stick with the issue and Presenting your case by providing plans

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and a timeline to become compliant. Both the city and the property owner will be

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allowed to question witnesses and summarize their positions. The authority will make

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findings of fact and act accordingly and or set the case for a status hearing at

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a later date. Findings of fact and action will be mailed to the property owner via

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regular mail and filed in the Blackford County Recorder's Office. If civil penalties

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are assessed today, an invoice of the civil penalty will be included with the hearing

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record. You have the right to appeal any action taken at this hearing. Let me repeat

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that. You have the right to repeal to appeal any action taken at this hearing. Appeals

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must be made to the Blackford County Circuit Court or the Blackford County Superior

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Court and must be initiated within 30 days of today's hearing. So if you have an

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appeal, it's got to go to the Superior Court or the circuit court, your choice, within

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30 days of today's hearing. Everybody in attendance who expect to participate in

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the hearing today, would you please stand and raise your right hand to be, to be

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sworn in. Please stand.

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Do you solemnly swear or affirm under penalty of perjury that the testimony you are

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about to give today will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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If so, say yes. Thank you. Please be seated. When your case is called, please come

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to the podium. OK. So we got that out of the way. The first case up

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board and Tyler. Is case number 6 on your agenda?

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Uh, Rosa Diaz.

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The address is 207 East Main.

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And um

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In the essence of time, I won't repeat everything that I have here, but um,

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In August, Well, way back when, um, we changed the motion from tear down to

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rehabilitate because you want to rehabilitate this and then There's been a couple

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of appearances that have not been made, so we tabled until today. So, uh, Dennis,

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I will let you go first, and then Ms. Diaz, you can go second. Dennis. Um,

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kind of like what he said, we've changed that motion. Um, I know we've had talks

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about You guys starting on that property probably a month or so ago. Um, I've seen

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you cut some brush down and the door was open it, which you addressed it. And got

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it closed, um. What's your guys' time frame on getting that property up and going

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or at least start working on? Yeah, so, um, as you know, we leave houses, that's

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what we do, me and my husband, so we was expecting, expecting to do a closing the

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past month, so I'm forgot. So the people who's gonna do the closing, they didn't

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got the loan, so I can't go to the closing, but I think maybe the next week we're

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gonna do one and I will have enough money to start with that property. So we already

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started on the other one, but I was waiting for the money to start on this month.

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So as far as the other one, was that the one on, uh, was it Chestnut or commercial?

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Yes. OK. Yeah, so hopefully, uh, this week we're gonna do a closing. They are in

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Portland, so we're gonna get the money to rehab this property. So, um, like

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I already sent people who's was cleaning around the property. They mowing and put

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the trees around, uh, but I can't close the door because it's really cold. So, but

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yeah, hopefully we're gonna do that. I'm expecting to do maybe 2 weeks on

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well until I get the money so but my realtor said it's we're gonna do closing this

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week. It is still your intent to go ahead and rehabilitate the home then. So

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if I were, if I were to put a date down here, your projected start date, what would,

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what do you think it would be? So, um, I will get the money this week for my closing.

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So I'm, so within 30 days, yeah, mhm, I'm gonna start out there with the roofing

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and the siding and everything and with the door, obviously, and after that I'm gonna

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do the next, you know, everything interior. What would you expect to have accomplished

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in 30 days from now? So all completed. What do you think? What do you think you would

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have done in 30 days? Yes, mhm, yeah, yeah, all outside. The roof, the tiny

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roofing, yes, you know, the house can look better from the outside and I can continue

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the. My crew keep working inside.

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What do you think your total completion time is gonna be? Do you, could you look

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that far ahead? What do you think? Next summer or? Because I know you're putting

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money into it and you probably want to get it back, so as soon as I can because I'm

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interested to continue with my business with the flipping house. Dennis, what's the

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status of the other properties? Uh, the one that they have worked on, it is pretty

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good shape. They redid the roof, the exterior and stuff, so.

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I'm gonna move that we table this for another 30 days for status, yes, and uh I think

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it would be helpful for us if, if you could just have. A more definitive time frame

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the next time on what you're gonna do and by when. Yeah, so hopefully the next time

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when I leave here, I'm done. Pretty much, can we get like a paper of like each thing

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you're gonna get done in rough, a rough time frame? Don't have to be exact, but just

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that way we, we have it be handwritten. Yeah, it doesn't mean that just something

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we have to look at. Is that possible? Great. OK, so we have a motion. Was that a

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motion, Bob? Yes, we have a motion on the floor to table for 30 days to review this.

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Do you have a second? I second that. Great, thanks, Colleen. We have a motion on

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the floor in 1 2nd. all in favor of Colleen. Bob, and the chairman votes aye. So

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thank you very, very much for your diligence and thank you for coming. We need to

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determine our November meeting, so she'll, um, yeah, are you gonna stick around for

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a while? Are you gonna leave?

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So, well, I was gonna give you a, I was gonna give you a time for the November 10th

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meeting. So you would have to be there at the November meeting. So what's, that's

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what we're trying to decide. So Tyler, I know we have talked about shifting the meeting

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to the morning because we have court dates in the afternoon. That's correct. What

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does your schedule look like? Would, would 10 be acceptable? Let me take a look.

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Do you, uh, November 10th, I believe, is that, is that a Tuesday instead of a Wednesday?

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Tuesday. No, that would be November 10th would be the, our, our start, by the way,

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those cases start at 1 o'clock on November 10th. OK, pulling that up here, and that

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is a Wednesday, correct? That is a Tuesday. That is a Tuesday, yeah, we were gonna

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move it because I'm, so you will move that up a day. We'll move that to a Tuesday

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since Tyler's gonna be in town anyway and a different timeline correct so we will,

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it'll be November 10th. Can I have your pen? Oh, absolutely. I'll be November 10th

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at 10:00 a.m. And that's a Tuesday, not a Wednesday. That is correct. And I let me

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just confirm with my calendar, OK, but

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Yeah, I'm gonna just go ahead and block off the whole day. Yeah, I've actually got.

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That whole day is blocked off now. Great. OK, thank you very much. November 10th.

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Yes, I'm sorry, Tyler, what did you say? I was gonna say that whole day is Hartford

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City. So, OK, OK, fantastic. I'll be sending you something in the mail about it too.

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So you're still at the same address 419. Yes, I'm still in Portland, right? OK. Next

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property at Matt Parker, uh, 1102 North High. And that is item number

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2, board.

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Now, Tyler, I think we discussed this briefly. Was there an issue with the attorney

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there? Could, could you guys update his case? I don't, I don't wanna say there's

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an issue. I, I reached out because that's, that's not a fair characterization. I

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reached out to that attorney, uh, the bankruptcy attorney, I don't know, 30 days

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ago, give or take, maybe it was even before then, um, and I have not received a response

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back. I think I emailed and I may, but I know I called and so I need to circle back

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at this point and, and get where they are at, um, on that. I know we've confirmed

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those bankruptcy proceedings. I know that we've confirmed other things in there.

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I've got the name and the address of. That attorney. I've reached out to the trustee.

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I didn't hear back from the trustee either, so, um, what I need to do is call back

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to that attorney to get a call back. Uh, as well as I'll check the docket again from

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the bankruptcy just to see if anything else has changed in the last 30 days. Yeah,

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uh, Matt, Mr. and Mrs. Parker, I, I sympathize with you because I know you're driving

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down here. Um, we just found this out today. Tyler, is there any way we can do an

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indefinite? On this until you get back with us so that we can contact Mr. and Mrs.

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Parker. I don't see any issue with that that we can tell Mr. and Mrs. Parker, the

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board can tell Mr. and Mrs. Parker, hey, we won't take any action. We will notify

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you and resend you when this gets set back up for hearing. And if we want to have

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an indefinite while we wait for more ideas from the bankruptcy. I don't have any

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issue with that. Let's just make sure we have Mr. Parker and Mrs. Parker's contact

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information, and we do have, and we do have, I have, I don't see any issue with that.

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OK, my apologies, Matt. Is that acceptable to you? Uh, we will contact you when we

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find out more from his attorney and then, uh, perhaps the next go around we can do

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this via Zoom or via phone call to keep you guys from driving. Is that acceptable?

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Please accept my apologies. Wonderful, yeah, it's the trips I. I fully understand.

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I fully understand. Thank you for coming down, and we will, Nikki will probably be

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in contact with you when Tyler lets us know. Thank you so very much.

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Um, yeah, would you make that, make, make a motion for 30 days? No, it would be an

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indefinite at this point until Tyler hears back from the attorney. No pressure, Tyler.

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We defer this indefinitely until we get more information. None, none taken from the

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attorney. Um, OK, so we have a motion on the floor to table indefinitely pending.

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Uh, the, the attorneys, uh, discussions. Do I have a second? We have a motion to

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second. Uh, Colleen. Bob Chairman votes aye, that'd be 30.

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OK. Sandy Martin. I'm so glad you're here, Sandy.

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Item number 12.

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So I'm gonna defer this one to Dennis and perhaps the mayor if you have something

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you wanna throw in. Dennis, go right ahead. Um, I do know that's one of the ones

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out there that's been taken care of and stuff like that. You said you're using it

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as storage. OK. I have noticed you've been keeping that mode and all that, which

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is great for out there. Um,

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And then So we're, we're having discussions on um Other things. So I

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would ask the

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The board to table literally every 30 days we're we're looking to see um. To take

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care of the property overall, um, just in the situation, so we've really haven't

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discussed anything too much in depth, um. So sometimes you just try and solve the

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problem overall. So we're gonna, are you guys able to stay a little bit after? Are

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you able to stay a little bit after? OK, OK, OK. Which, which, um, which, which one

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is this? Uh, I'm sorry, uh, this is item number 12721 Greenboro. Yes sir, yeah.

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So, 30 days, Mayor.

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At least 30. It may be a problem. I've got to go in for surgery. Um, it'll be the

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5th surgery. I've got a total of 6 I've got to go through. Um, so it may be a problem

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with 30 days. You wanna push that to 60, mirror. Or indefinitely until we have the

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communication, yeah, you know, we've, we've talked at least a couple of times, so

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we're in good communication. I think it's a good situation. Obviously there are extenuating

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circumstances that we don't know that the mayor's asking for, for our, uh, leniency

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here. So with that board, do you have any comments?

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OK. Bob, we have a second. We have a motion in 1 2nd, to table indefinitely pending

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discussions with the mayor.

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OK, Rocco vou Colleen.

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I'll wake her up in a minute. No, no, you're fine. I was roll call vote. You vote

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aye, Bob, and Chairman votes aye, so.

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We will table this indefinitely and the mayor merits in your hands now. Thank you

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very much. Welcome back to Indiana, by the way.

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It gets cold there, you know that, right? I'm sorry. Oh, you're going to Vegas. It

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gets wet out there. OK, well,

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thank you very much. Have a great afternoon. Drive safely going home. If, if I'm,

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well, I'll just, I'll go right ahead, man. I'll just shut up right there, yeah.

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Yeah. Next up is item number 4 on your sheets board. Emily Anderson,

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525 East Washington. Tina, do you wanna come up with her? Uh, well, I don't know

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that I, if you want me to, um, but the buyer is here now. OK, well, uh, Dennis, I'll

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let Dennis go first, and while you guys are, you guys can do what you guys wanna

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do. How's that?

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If your buyer wants to come out and sign in, that would be helpful.

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You wanna, want me to review or do you wanna speak or you want me to go ahead and

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I mean, sir, this paper right here if you'll sign in for us. I know she's had a timeline

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in place for us, right, right, and she's selling, so, OK, as long as we can get what

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they're going to do, OK, so, um, Emily, are you, oh, you're up there, OK. I know

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you're going to sell or it appears that you may already have that in progress. Um,

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the floor is yours. Go right ahead. So there are 3 liens on my house. Or

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I, I need the market to be able to sell to them.

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Mike asking that they be removed so that I can. He's Is that microphone on?

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Is that mic on? OK, I can barely hear. Yeah.

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The, the gist of it is, Tyler, she is wishing to sell the property. Yeah.

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I want you look like you want to say something, Dennis said that there was lien or

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like we need to remove our stuff on it before she can sell it. Yeah, the title company

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told us we can't close until there are no there's, there's nothing on the property.

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It's the only, uh, setback is the release from this committee, and we've done that.

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Um, I don't, uh, let me, let me, let me catch myself up here real quick. No, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no. November we removed the tear down order. And changed it to

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a rehab on East Washington. Yes sir, 525 has not been correct, but it was OK. Here,

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here's what I would here's what I'm imagining is what, what's happening when we record

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when they do a title search and the closing company does title searches. They look

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for liens, and it's one of the ways they do that is through the Blackford County

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recorder's office, so they're probably seeing all of these things. Whether or not

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that that got filed as an order as a rehab, even if it did, they probably have no

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idea what that means or what that's there, it's just a cloud on the title. So what

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we would need to do is if, if it's still there, we need to, the board needs to do

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one of two things either release everything and dismiss this case and remove it and

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then file it with the Blackford County Recorder's Office so when they look at it

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they go, oh, OK, that's gone away, um. Otherwise, they will likely not close.

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Does that make, does that make sense? Yes, just a second because the title, the title

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policy or the or the policy, they're not gonna. I'm not giving legal advice. I'm

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just giving the board a background. I can give the board all the legal advice it

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wants, but more likely than not, a, a title policy or insurance company or whoever

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closing agency isn't gonna sign off on selling this with whatever number it comes

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up with, and then they'll have to turn around and worry about it getting. Sure, no,

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I understand. I understand. So, so if it's um.

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Uh, if it's, if it's something that Needs to be done. And the board wants it sold,

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I guess we'd have to. Likely file something with the Blackford County Recorder's

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Office letting them know this case has been released if it has been, OK, but, but

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that doesn't, I don't know what the status of the property is if that's something

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the board wants to do. Well, I'm gonna throw it. I, I know the board has questions

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as I have questions, and there's probably the same question. Bob, I'll relinquish

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the floor to you. Is that something that you would do for us, uh, Tyler? Yeah, I

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mean, it's pretty, yeah, I can get something on, we can get something on file here,

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um. Pretty simple. That's just releasing everything and notifying that that that's

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all been removed. So, that, that shouldn't be a big deal. Um, The question becomes

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in my mind for the board is if we release everything that means the case is over.

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That's my concern is, is the property in a position in which Those things have been

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rehabbed sufficiently. No, they have not, uh, and that was, and, and, and the perspective

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buyer, Mr. Ramirez is here, um. And Emily, perhaps you can answer this since you're

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right here. So the, the Is it going to be restored because I know you've

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done quite a bit of work. Is Mr. Ramirez going to What's restore it? Yes, I believe

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so. I believe so, OK. Um, 10 new windows have been put into

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the house. Yeah, I, I knew you'd done extensive work on it. I can't imagine just

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throwing that away. I'm, I'm trying to figure out how to get some assurance from

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Mr. Ramirez. Yeah, Mr. Ramirez, what is your,

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could you please come up so you can send it to the attorney so you can come on up,

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we'll have a, we'll have a brief hug up here. So, uh, our plan is obviously to complete

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remodel. So obviously not this year. If we get the house, we're gonna remodel completely

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next year, but it's gonna be, I mean, it's this plan to completely remodel outside

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and inside. So do you have other houses here in town? Uh, yes. And have you remodeled

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those?

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522 South Jefferson, uh, 615 West Kaka, which they

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sold for 29,000. So it's already sold. OK, OK, that's, that's great. So you're already

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doing the work. Gonna take us a while, but next

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I understand. I'm, I'm doing. Are you guys, when you start on that, is it gonna be

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from the outside in? Yeah, from the outside up, our plan is to do the siding and

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obviously the roof first step and then do an inside job trying to do anything yet

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this year. Um, Mm, I don't think so. Our plan is next year because, you know, winter's

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coming and so we have more latitude. So if we were to

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release this, we could always put it back on. Absolutely, yeah, um.

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Do we have your assurance that you are going to go ahead and start it next year then,

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is that correct? Yes, to full, to full restoration. Yeah, if you guys let us to next

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year, yeah, to full restoration. OK, OK. That is what I wanted to hear. That's what

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I want to hear. Well, I move that we instruct our attorney to, uh, Do whatever is

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necessary to release it. Release our claim on the property. OK. We have a motion

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on the floor to empower our attorney to release this so that you can buy it. Do I

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have a second. We have a motion in a second. Colleen, Bob, Chairman votes aye. So

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we will release this. Tyler, you're going to draft that. Are you going to file it?

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Are you going to send it to Nikki to file? I'll have Nikki sign and file it. It'll

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be similar to what she's already filed, and, and, and, and what I would tell, uh,

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what I would tell Ms. Anderson and Mr. Ramirez is if. You and we'll, we'll

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get it done by the end of the week or, or no later than Monday if you go to close

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and there are still remaining issues, please contact.

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Or have the closing agent contact me or whoever and we can get whatever paperwork

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they want and see fit to, OK, or or contact Nikki or me and then we can we can yeah

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we can put you in touch. So the house has been released from our grasp, shall we

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say. And they will file that hopefully within a week you'll be clear to clear to

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go, Tina. I did send the title work to Dan if the attorney needs to look it over

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to see what the liens are. I don't know. Did you hear that, Tyler? Yeah, why don't,

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why don't you just send that over to me, Mayor Dan, just so I can see exactly what

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their issue is and I can draft it accordingly. It shouldn't be. I don't see anything

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major on it. Yeah, I did talk with the title company, uh, Tyler and. Uh, I assured

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them there were no mow liens on the property. I don't know about water liens. They'd,

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they'd have to contact the water department, but, um, sure, this was the only thing

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I knew about on the property. Perfect. Yeah, and we'll get, we'll get something,

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and then, Nikki, I will get you, uh, a Word document version of this so that way,

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um, you'll have it for future use. So, thank you. OK, great. Thank you very, very

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much, and, uh, thank you for doing what you're doing. Hey Ron, yes sir, I'm reiterate

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that thing to understand if I don't think this is gonna happen, but the board can

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oppose the same. Yes, so that is a great point. I don't think it's gonna happen because

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I think these are doesn't like to lose money. Yeah, well, that's, that, that is an

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option. Money is a wonderful motivator, isn't it? Yeah, Emily, we want to compliment

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you on the responsible way that you, you really have over the time. You really have.

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Thank you very much and And you're welcome to come back anytime.

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I mean, we, we, we have a groupie back here so no comment, no, OK, you know, we,

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we need houses to stand and be fixed up, not torn down, and that is, that is a true

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statement. We need good housing here. That's one of our biggest problems. All right,

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thank you very much. You're free to stay, free to go, uh, yeah, thank you.

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Next up, item number 15.

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Mr. Tyra, you wanna come up?

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And the property is 327 East Chestnut Street. There's been a tear down order

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posted. 378. 317 East Chestnut, yeah, what did I say 327 or something

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0 317 yeah. You were close, uh, yeah, this place, um,

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I was reading the number 15 on the thing that was close enough for me, so we did,

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um. In July, we made a motion to table this for 90 days and it's 90 days. Go

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ahead, Dennis, I'll let you have the floor. Um, I know we've talked before, you cleaned

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the brush up and stuff around that property. Um, I noticed all that was cleaned up.

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Um. I guess what are what are the future plans on this property? Well, I mean, I've

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been working a lot of overtime to replace one piece of glass. I've got like 4 or

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5 that picture window in front, um, I have a piece of plexiglass and it's just a

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matter of acquiring time and. Going picking up the materials. Um Been kind of busy

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at work quite a bit. I ain't had time to get over there. I said I wanted to be able

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to place one piece of glass and all the windows that have been broke all the time.

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And uh

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I don't plan on turning the water on until spring next year until I get all these

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glasses and paint, so they'll glass in. So I can keep the animals out. Um, so you

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don't plan to tear this down. I don't have an intention to tear it down. I got brand

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new plumbing in and a brand new furnace in. Then there needs to be a form of rehab

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if that's appropriate. As far as how long, how long have you owned this house again?

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How long I owned it about 10 years, 10 years. Has it been lived in at all since you've

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owned it? Yeah, I've had, I've had people rent it out for a little while, um.

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Not more than a month, month and a half. Um, so, as far as from

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here, how long has it been empty? I'm gonna say it's been empty for 3 years, 3 years,

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yeah, I haven't had anybody in there 3 years. What's, uh, obviously I look from the

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outside, uh, what's, I know you've got new plumbing and stuff, what's the condition

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overall inside the property? How are the floors? Well, I mean the floors just need

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to be cleaned up a little better, and I got, like I said, I got a new tile in the

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garage to put in where the two tiles came down on the inside. And so I got,

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well, I don't know my wife has some stuff tucked in there and I gotta get out somebody

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to bring her in.

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Is it rehabbable? In your opinion? You know, that's, uh, do you want to go in it?

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If possible.

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Uh, Mr. Tyler, would it be possible for Dennis to, for you to take him inside to

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inspect the inside of it? Would that be a possibility? That could be a possibility,

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yeah. Would you wanna do that and let us table this thing and let you take a gander

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at it before we. If you, I know you've been busy with work and stuff, um, to rehab

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it, do you have any type of timeline? That's our biggest priority is trying to make

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the housing look better in town and that way the neighbors can You know, not have

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to see overgrown brush and stuff. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I, I'm mowing every

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week and stuff and Uh, for the time frame, I'm a one-man Lexus group.

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Do you have anybody else to help me? Do you plan on doing all of this yourself? Yeah,

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I got no choice.

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You have a source for the funds to that's why I'm working the overtime I'm working.

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I would recommend that we let Dave, or yeah, Dave, let Dennis. Table this 30 days

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and let Dennis go in and examine him, get with Mr. Tyre and See what the possibilities,

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the potential is. Any, you guys got a comment on that? No, I agree with you. I, I

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was thinking the same thing. Would you make a motion to that effect? I will make

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a motion. My motion is to um Set 30 days and in that meantime,

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Dennis can go in and check it out and then report to us at the next meeting. I'm

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gonna go get one of my I reluctantly will, will second that motion, uh, but I, I

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just have an uncomfortable feeling that that we're gonna be dealing with this, uh.

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That will mean, sir, that you're gonna have to appear at the November meeting. So,

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Dennis, well, we have a motion on the floor, and we have a 2nd, Colleen. Um, I'll

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roll call vote. I'm sorry. Bob, Chairman votes aye. So Dennis is gonna get you a

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card with his contact information, and you guys can set a time and walk through it,

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and then we'll discuss it on the 10th of November next month. That'd be great. Thank

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you very much, Mr. Tyrone. And he's going to get your, you a card, so he's gonna

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bring that out here.

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OK, but we have one more via phone.

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And this is item number 5.

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1102 North Monroe.

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They don't.

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OK, I will

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OK, any digit works just give me a call. Thank you.

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Just dialed. Please check the number and dial again and then.

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This one.

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Hello. Hi, Mr. Hartzford. Yes, hi, this is Ron Darviston for the Property Standards

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Board. I've got you on the phone and in I'll do all the, all the introductions here

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at the table is to my, I am the president. Nikki Griders to my right. She is our

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Gal Friday administrative expert over here. Uh, Dennis Maddox is to her right. Uh,

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he is the code enforcement officer. Mr. Bob Kingy and Colleen Dickey, the other two

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board members. And I'm going to

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Dennis, you wanna swing down here so that I, I'll just hand the phone over and I'm

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gonna let Dennis start that and then you guys can discuss, go and if you would put

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it up to the microphone so that Tyler can hear.

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This is for Tom Fletcher. This is for um 111102 North Monroe.

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And uh Mr. Hartzberg, are you are the broker, is that correct? Yes sir, yep, um,

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my name is Jonah Hartzberg. I'm with Hoosier Hub Realty. I am, uh, the realtor for

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John Fletcher, and we actually have, um, we have a buyer under contract on this property.

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Um, I've attempted to, to merge him into this call as well. Uh, he is prepared to

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speak and, and discuss. That's how he's um has full intention to um to demolish and

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clean the property himself uh but but we were not able to get clear title um because

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of the the orders uh that that popped up whenever we were doing underwriting with

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the title company so that's that's why that's why we're here today to discuss it.

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Go ahead, Dennis. You've got it in front of you. I'll let you. So once, uh, once

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we uplift this and the buyer does get possession, what is his time frame on getting

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this property torn down and cleared up?

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Samuel, are you on this call? Yeah, I'm, I'm listening. Yeah, um, I don't know how

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much time they, they can give me, but I work, but I can take, uh, like I can, I can

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do it on weekends, maybe, maybe on 4 weekends I can, I can demolish it and order

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some dumpsters and clean it with, with some of my, my crew. Um, if it's

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possible for them to let me work on weekends, I can do it. I can tear it down and

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clean the property and, and maybe 44 weeks. So this is, once we get it cleared and

403
00:40:17,042 --> 00:40:20,094
everything, this is something that could be done within the next 1 month, 1 month

404
00:40:20,094 --> 00:40:27,079
and a half, it could be on the ground. Yes, yes, sir, and I would say, uh, that we

405
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:34,059
probably would need, um, 5 business days of clearance of, of coordination with the

406
00:40:34,059 --> 00:40:39,038
title company to first close before you can take possession, so I would add that

407
00:40:39,038 --> 00:40:46,023
to it. And my next, my next question is, after this property is removed, what are

408
00:40:46,023 --> 00:40:48,047
the future plans for this property?

409
00:40:51,019 --> 00:40:55,086
Yeah, I'm planning on, on building a house there and I, I called the city before

410
00:40:55,086 --> 00:41:02,075
to, to ask what was the requirements and the price. And I, I spoke with one lady

411
00:41:02,075 --> 00:41:08,027
there. I, I don't remember her name, but she gave me the prices on the, on the building

412
00:41:08,027 --> 00:41:15,078
permit, the demolition permit, and And that's, that's the plan, build, build a, build

413
00:41:15,078 --> 00:41:16,058
a house.

414
00:41:18,094 --> 00:41:26,055
OK. So, uh this is uh Chairman speaking. We have a tear down order on this house,

415
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:33,079
and I'm assuming that As the broker, you're coming up with all sorts of red flags

416
00:41:33,085 --> 00:41:39,016
as far as trying to get the title transferred. Is that, is that a correct statement?

417
00:41:40,005 --> 00:41:45,061
Yes, yes, sir, we've been under contract about 1 month. Uh, we've cleared all title,

418
00:41:45,074 --> 00:41:52,069
um, all title concerns aside from the 4, the 4 city orders on the property from April,

419
00:41:52,074 --> 00:41:55,036
May, June, and July. OK, so.

420
00:41:57,076 --> 00:42:03,055
Here's our conundrum, for lack of a better term. We have, we have an order because

421
00:42:03,057 --> 00:42:08,007
it is, it is gonna come down and we recognize that, which is a plus, we like that.

422
00:42:09,016 --> 00:42:15,034
Um But in order for us to release those, we have to drop the case.

423
00:42:17,002 --> 00:42:22,051
Uh, we have to drop the case to clear that because that's got to go through the recorder's

424
00:42:22,051 --> 00:42:29,007
office so that you can do what you need to do. Now that being said,

425
00:42:31,007 --> 00:42:37,001
That leaves us a tad bit vulnerable. Not that we wouldn't be willing to do that,

426
00:42:37,018 --> 00:42:41,018
that's a board decision. I don't, I can't make that individually, and the board may

427
00:42:41,018 --> 00:42:48,049
elect to do that, but I will give you the caveat that if we do that, I, I'm gonna

428
00:42:48,049 --> 00:42:54,038
speak for myself that we need a timeline because if the property is transferred and

429
00:42:54,038 --> 00:43:00,014
it sits in its current condition, there's a very real possibility that we could and

430
00:43:00,014 --> 00:43:07,041
probably would open this case back up. And it would go to court and we would order

431
00:43:07,041 --> 00:43:14,095
it down. So do you understand our, our, our situation here? Yeah, yeah,

432
00:43:15,004 --> 00:43:20,071
I understand, I understand. I will not let that happen if I, if I buy the property,

433
00:43:20,008 --> 00:43:26,099
that's what I was telling Jonah, that um if I buy the property, I will do my best

434
00:43:26,099 --> 00:43:32,083
to like clean it and have it ready for, for build something, but I don't wanna pay

435
00:43:32,083 --> 00:43:40,005
extra fees of having the property without uh demolishing. No, I understand, I understand.

436
00:43:41,074 --> 00:43:46,086
Tyler, Tyler Rothstein is our attorney. He, I have him on a Zoom call. Tyler, do

437
00:43:46,086 --> 00:43:53,002
you have any wisdom you want to impart? Well, I can't give uh any, anybody other

438
00:43:53,004 --> 00:43:56,009
than the board legal advice, right? Um

439
00:43:59,057 --> 00:44:04,008
Properties can be transferred while having the ownership, but if there is a closing,

440
00:44:04,013 --> 00:44:09,076
title companies won't insure good title with something like that there. Exactly.

441
00:44:09,093 --> 00:44:17,035
Well, because this has not come up before, uh, until today, twice now of all things,

442
00:44:17,057 --> 00:44:22,007
um, I, I've kind of been doing a little bit of research while everybody's been talking.

443
00:44:22,053 --> 00:44:27,008
Uh, essentially, it comes down to one or two things, and the first thing is we agree

444
00:44:27,008 --> 00:44:29,005
to recite, uh,

445
00:44:31,018 --> 00:44:35,089
agree, agree to withdraw everything and rescission it, and, and the board kind of

446
00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:40,013
crosses their fingers and holds their breath and it gets done or it doesn't or we're

447
00:44:40,013 --> 00:44:45,006
back in the same boat. Um, or the second thing which I, I don't necessarily recommend

448
00:44:45,006 --> 00:44:53,004
today to the board. Is it's, I think it may be possible um

449
00:44:53,005 --> 00:45:00,028
that there is a conditional release. But I have to do more research on whether or

450
00:45:00,028 --> 00:45:04,006
not how that would look where the buyer seller and the this board would all sign

451
00:45:04,006 --> 00:45:09,008
some sort of agreement and whether or not a title company would even allow that I

452
00:45:09,008 --> 00:45:15,092
don't know so uh again I think as we sit here today the only. Real option this board

453
00:45:15,092 --> 00:45:22,029
has is twofold. Either we say, well, we'll tear it down, we'll get our lien, and

454
00:45:22,029 --> 00:45:29,011
you can figure it out later. Um, and by the way, uh, because it's recorded, if anybody

455
00:45:29,011 --> 00:45:37,008
else buys this property. That lien still carries over right and so um. Or the second

456
00:45:37,008 --> 00:45:42,003
is we dismiss everything, we release the lien, you let me do what we've talked about

457
00:45:42,005 --> 00:45:47,024
on previous properties, uh, and hold our breath, and if not, we might be here a year

458
00:45:47,024 --> 00:45:54,023
from now. I don't know. Um, thank you, thank you, Tyler. I'm going to defer to my

459
00:45:54,025 --> 00:45:57,019
right to the other two board members. Do you guys have a comment?

460
00:45:59,068 --> 00:46:00,063
Bob, do you have a comment?

461
00:46:04,012 --> 00:46:05,015
Yeah, I just assume.

462
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:15,042
OK, so we've discussed to my right with the other two board members,

463
00:46:15,047 --> 00:46:23,034
and Mr. Kingry made the comment that he wishes to, uh, withdraw this. And is that

464
00:46:23,034 --> 00:46:29,062
a motion? So we have a motion to withdraw this. Do I have a second, and we do have

465
00:46:29,062 --> 00:46:36,099
a second from Ms. Dickey. And before I call for a vote, I will make a comment that

466
00:46:37,013 --> 00:46:44,024
as a caveat, if we release this, there is a very strong possibility that if it is

467
00:46:44,024 --> 00:46:50,066
not taken down. We're, we're issuing some grace here and if it's not taking down.

468
00:46:51,043 --> 00:46:57,026
We could and probably will bring this back up again. So with that being said, I have

469
00:46:57,026 --> 00:47:04,044
a motion on the floor in a second to withdraw this. Colleen, roll call vote. Ms.

470
00:47:04,053 --> 00:47:11,002
Dickey votes aye. Mr. Kingry. Mr. Kingry votes aye. The chairman votes aye. So we

471
00:47:11,002 --> 00:47:17,084
have voted to release this property. Uh, Mr. Rothstein, could you do in a similar

472
00:47:17,084 --> 00:47:21,084
vein what you've done with the previous property to send to Nikki to send to the

473
00:47:21,084 --> 00:47:23,006
recorder's office? Yes.

474
00:47:25,048 --> 00:47:31,015
OK, and, and, and if everybody's still on the line, let them know that it'll be hopefully

475
00:47:31,015 --> 00:47:36,003
within the week. OK. Did you catch that on the other end? Uh, Mr. our attorney said

476
00:47:36,003 --> 00:47:39,044
it'd be about a week. Is that acceptable to you guys?

477
00:47:42,027 --> 00:47:47,018
Yes, yes, we have an active contract to the end of the month, so that should be sufficient

478
00:47:47,018 --> 00:47:50,014
for sure. OK, do you have any questions for the board?

479
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:59,017
I do not. Samuel, do you have any questions? No, no. OK, well, thank you very much.

480
00:47:59,052 --> 00:48:05,034
Oh, after you guys tear that property down, what, uh, what, what's the time frame

481
00:48:05,034 --> 00:48:07,077
roughly that building will take place?

482
00:48:10,097 --> 00:48:11,054
Um

483
00:48:13,072 --> 00:48:20,001
Well, I asked the lady about the, the timeline of building and she said it, it doesn't

484
00:48:20,012 --> 00:48:27,051
matter, she said it can take you 1 or 2 or 3 years because I'm, I mean.

485
00:48:28,047 --> 00:48:35,009
I might build like the outside, like exterior, like the framing and siding, but inside

486
00:48:35,009 --> 00:48:42,034
will not be finished right away. I'm planning on, on, on building it like on.

487
00:48:43,093 --> 00:48:51,041
You know, maybe. In 1 year or probably 2 years when it's

488
00:48:51,091 --> 00:48:59,041
ready to occupy. If that's the case, do you have somebody or yourself that will maintain

489
00:48:59,043 --> 00:49:05,089
this property throughout the summer as far as keeping the grass mow on it? Oh, absolutely,

490
00:49:06,001 --> 00:49:13,065
yes, myself. OK. Uh, as a point of information, are you going to be, uh,

491
00:49:13,082 --> 00:49:18,093
taking the property down? Are you going to hire somebody around here to take it down?

492
00:49:20,087 --> 00:49:26,041
No, I'm a, I'm a contractor, so I'm gonna bring my crew. I, I work trim carpentry,

493
00:49:26,071 --> 00:49:33,038
and, and I'm planning on bringing, uh, 5 guys plus me. That will be 6 guys, and I

494
00:49:33,038 --> 00:49:40,033
will hire, you know, the, the container like the dumpsters. OK, that, that's fantastic.

495
00:49:40,005 --> 00:49:46,059
Well, where I was going with this is you'll have to obtain a demo permit. From the

496
00:49:46,059 --> 00:49:53,073
courthouse. Um, it's on the first floor. As you walk into the courthouse, just ask

497
00:49:53,073 --> 00:49:58,087
for the zoning office. You'll have to get a demolition permit, and the, and the reason

498
00:49:58,087 --> 00:50:05,035
for that permit is when you apply for that, then that permit goes up to the auditor's

499
00:50:05,035 --> 00:50:11,087
office, and they will change the status on the property from uh a property with a

500
00:50:11,087 --> 00:50:17,088
home to a vacant property, and that drastically affects the taxes on the property.

501
00:50:18,032 --> 00:50:26,032
So, please, please get a demolition permit from the courthouse. OK. OK. Well, thank

502
00:50:26,032 --> 00:50:30,056
you very, very much. Uh, it's been a pleasure working with you and uh I'll let you

503
00:50:30,056 --> 00:50:33,056
gentlemen go and Have a great afternoon.

504
00:50:36,011 --> 00:50:37,095
Thank you very much. Bye-bye.

505
00:50:44,095 --> 00:50:49,034
OK. So, Tyler, you're going to take care of that, right? I will take care of those.

506
00:50:50,057 --> 00:50:54,004
Fantastic. Seemed like there was something I wanted to say, but I don't remember

507
00:50:54,004 --> 00:50:54,083
what it was.

508
00:50:56,086 --> 00:50:57,003
Oh wait a minute.

509
00:50:59,004 --> 00:51:00,075
I need to make a note to myself.

510
00:51:05,048 --> 00:51:05,095
OK.

511
00:51:08,097 --> 00:51:16,075
Page 2. These are all of the people that are in the audience. So let's start

512
00:51:16,075 --> 00:51:24,017
down through these guys. I can find them. There we go. Page one is 222 Easton.

513
00:51:26,022 --> 00:51:31,038
You're laughing. Did you get page 1? Wow, we just zipped through page 1 and 2, didn't

514
00:51:31,038 --> 00:51:31,055
we?

515
00:51:33,066 --> 00:51:39,097
We're not done with page 2, are we? Are we on 222 East Elm? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Turn

516
00:51:39,097 --> 00:51:40,049
it over.

517
00:51:43,011 --> 00:51:46,007
Oh, there, hey, let's, let's go with the item number one. That's a great place to

518
00:51:46,007 --> 00:51:53,064
start. How about that? What a concept. Just here to help. Just another service you

519
00:51:53,064 --> 00:52:01,044
offer, right? I offer, um, at the June meeting we made a motion to change the

520
00:52:01,044 --> 00:52:02,077
rehabilitation.

521
00:52:05,007 --> 00:52:12,004
To change rehabilitation to tear down order, and then we Cable net is that property

522
00:52:12,004 --> 00:52:17,033
down yet? It is down. Yep, it's down and they've got it cleaned up. They've got,

523
00:52:17,059 --> 00:52:23,022
uh, ropes or stakes where they're gonna put their new property when they start building.

524
00:52:23,043 --> 00:52:28,002
What's your recommendation? Um, you want to pull it or leave it? I would leave it

525
00:52:28,002 --> 00:52:34,086
for a little bit, leave it for 30 days, yeah, just to see if we get, I mean. Dealing

526
00:52:34,086 --> 00:52:37,069
with him, he's done great. He has done great.

527
00:52:39,088 --> 00:52:43,004
And, and I gotta give kudos to many, many of the people that we deal with. They are

528
00:52:43,004 --> 00:52:45,007
really great to, to work with.

529
00:52:47,086 --> 00:52:54,098
You know what, let's close that, OK, because I'm with Nikki. We have a fight on my

530
00:52:54,098 --> 00:52:59,039
right because it is, it is down and it is cleaned up. So that's the main thing. The

531
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:04,058
objective was that. Yeah, good job, Nikki. OK, you don't need a motion for that,

532
00:53:04,071 --> 00:53:09,005
do you have it removed before there's blood drawn over here, you know, can I get

533
00:53:09,005 --> 00:53:17,005
a motion to withdraw that, please. We have a motion to withdraw 222 East Elm Street.

534
00:53:17,014 --> 00:53:24,097
Drive a second. Oh my goodness, um, 4 call vote, Colleen, Bob.

535
00:53:26,051 --> 00:53:28,022
And chairman votes aye.

536
00:53:30,044 --> 00:53:36,008
Now can we move on to page 3? Uh, did we talk about 2518? No, no, it's number 3.

537
00:53:37,078 --> 00:53:40,014
33 shortest. OK.

538
00:53:43,013 --> 00:53:50,082
OK. 518 West Kickapoo Street. Tyler, this is the one you and I, uh, Dennis has not

539
00:53:50,088 --> 00:53:55,025
been in there yet, but go ahead, Dennis, because you had some information. I've talked

540
00:53:55,025 --> 00:54:02,096
to that, uh. I'm not sure if he's a contractor or what he was. Um,

541
00:54:03,009 --> 00:54:07,071
I've talked to him a while back. He told me there was a dumpster on site, which is

542
00:54:07,071 --> 00:54:14,091
there. Um, I've tried to call. There's been no answer, no callback. Um, as of yesterday,

543
00:54:15,017 --> 00:54:21,007
the dumpster does have Stuff in it so they have been cleaning stuff out of the house

544
00:54:21,007 --> 00:54:28,086
and it has drywall and stuff in it um just by looking in the windows of the

545
00:54:28,086 --> 00:54:36,036
property um. I believe that they can turn the property around. OK.

546
00:54:37,013 --> 00:54:44,008
What is, uh, what's the outside look like? Uh, it's just old brick. Um, they've done

547
00:54:44,008 --> 00:54:50,092
some cleanup to it. Um, there is a little shed out back which I did tell the guy

548
00:54:50,092 --> 00:54:56,035
to try to get that removed if anything, because that shed, it's just like a little

549
00:54:56,058 --> 00:55:00,088
two-door shed that needs to be coming down and he even agreed with it. Yeah.

550
00:55:02,095 --> 00:55:08,041
Well, but they, they did say by the end of winter or beginning of winter they're

551
00:55:08,041 --> 00:55:14,001
gonna try to get the bricks all sealed up and everything, get all the outside stuff

552
00:55:14,001 --> 00:55:18,075
taken care of. I'm gonna try to keep reaching out and seeing if I can get in contact

553
00:55:18,077 --> 00:55:22,048
with anybody. What's your recommendation for us?

554
00:55:24,054 --> 00:55:29,073
I would keep moving forward with it. Just keep it on our radar, push it back another

555
00:55:29,073 --> 00:55:33,097
30 days, and I will see if I can reach somebody and we'll just keep.