1 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:14,080 the minutes for the August 10th, 2026 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,559 meeting. 3 00:00:14,559 --> 00:00:15,920 >> Make a motion to approve. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,279 >> Motion by Dave. 5 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:17,760 >> Second. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,680 by Tom. Any final uh questions, 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,640 comments, or 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,560 seeing none, all those in favor signify 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,760 by saying I. 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,880 >> I. 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,960 >> Oppose. Nay 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,680 minutes pass. The third item on the 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,559 agenda is appearances. Uh we do have uh 14 00:00:36,559 --> 00:00:41,920 a public hearing in which um you can if you are appearing for the public 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,480 hearing, you can do so under that. Uh 16 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:48,239 otherwise um you are welcome to appear 17 00:00:48,239 --> 00:00:50,559 if you don't if it isn't under a public 18 00:00:50,559 --> 00:00:54,640 hearing. Um, and I see some people in 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,879 the audience for like I said the bank 20 00:00:56,879 --> 00:01:00,079 and uh the fire station 21 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:04,239 um and Winter Park builders uh are not 22 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:05,760 public hearings. So if you wish to 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,230 appear now you can 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,960 second call 25 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:15,280 and final call. 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,439 All right. Then item four on the agenda 27 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:19,360 is a public hearing for a conditional 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,360 use permit to allow for the operation of 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,640 a secondhand store at 1336 East Sumner 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Street uh zoned B3 General Business 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,600 District. I declare this hearing open uh 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:40,789 and reading of the public notice. Jacob. 33 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:41,600 Sorry. 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:02:04,950 >> Take your time. 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,040 Okay. Notice of public hearing plan 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,640 commission. Please take notice that 37 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:13,120 pursuant to section 62.23 23 PN 7 PNDE 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,720 of the Wisconsin state statutes and 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,760 section 52.302 302 of the city of 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,440 Hartford municipal code that a public 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,680 hearing will be held at 6:00 p.m. or 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,160 thereafter on August 10th 20 or it 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,560 should say August I'm reading the wrong 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,640 one so I must have the wrong packet but 45 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:31,440 it should be August or September 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,599 >> uh 14th 2026 in the common council 47 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:35,440 chambers at the lower level of the city 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,000 hall 109 North Main Street by the city 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,920 of Hartford plan commission to consider 50 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:44,239 a request of Trisha's Seed LLC 51 00:02:44,239 --> 00:02:46,000 uh to apply for a conditional use permit 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,239 to allow for a secondhand store at the 53 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:54,319 property property of 1336 East Sumar 54 00:02:54,319 --> 00:03:00,949 Street, tax key 36-220-00001- 55 00:03:00,959 --> 00:03:02,959 023, 56 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:05,760 zoned B3, general business district. All 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,000 persons wishing to provide testimony for 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,840 or against the requested applicant 59 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,840 application are invited to be present. 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,840 Written comments may be submitted to the 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,560 city clerk, Shana Cryamp, 109 North Main 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Street, Hartford, Wisconsin 53027. A map 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,080 of the parcel and application can be 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,519 reviewed in the planning zoning office 65 00:03:23,519 --> 00:03:25,840 by appointment 109 North Main Street 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,360 Monday through Friday between the hours 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,159 of 7:30 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. contact 68 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:32,959 262-673 69 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:37,120 8272 dated this the 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,319 14th day of August 2026. Shannon 71 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:43,920 Crowamp, city clerk, city of Hartford. 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,000 This was published in the Daily News. 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,879 >> Thanks. And then staff review, Jacob. 74 00:03:48,879 --> 00:03:53,200 All right. Uh, Trisha Shehed LLC uh is 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Patricia Oralbeck. Uh, the business 76 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,680 owner is looking to establish She-Hed at 77 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,760 1336 East Sum Street. This is a 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,560 pre-existing business that is located on 79 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,920 uh State Highway 83 going towards the 80 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,680 south. They're looking to relocate their 81 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,720 business to this parcel. Uh 1336 East 82 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,959 Summer Street is zone B3 uh general 83 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:14,799 business district under the B3 zoning 84 00:04:14,799 --> 00:04:16,799 district. Secondhand store is a 85 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:18,560 principal land use that is permitted as 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,280 a conditional use. Uh after staff 87 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:24,800 review, uh 1336 East Sumar Street is 88 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,320 subject to the following. Compliance 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,840 with building codes, property 90 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:30,240 maintenance, and fire codes. Maintain 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,000 hours of operation as stated in the plan 92 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,560 of business operation. A a sign permit 93 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,720 must be submitted for each sign. Signs 94 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,639 must comply with chapter 54 of the city 95 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:40,880 of Hartford Municipal Code. Vehicle 96 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,120 parking, one space for each 350 square 97 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,520 feet of floor area for retail sales, 98 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,680 plus one space for each employee on the 99 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,160 largest work shift. Pawn broker 100 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,840 secondhand article dealers and 101 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:53,680 secondhand jewelry dealers must comply 102 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,639 with the requirements in 320 103 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:58,800 section 3209 of the municipal code of 104 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,040 the city of Hartford as applicable. 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,199 Outdoor storage is strictly prohibited. 106 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:06,400 So after reviewing all this, the plan 107 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,840 staff recommends approval of the 108 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:09,360 conditional use permit for secondhand 109 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,600 store the city of Hartford's B3 general 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,440 business zoning district uh with the 111 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,440 following conditions. Uh compliance with 112 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,639 the building codes, property 113 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:19,440 maintenance, and fire codes. Maintain 114 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,280 hours of operation as stated in the plan 115 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,199 of business operation. Assigned permit 116 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:25,280 must be submitted for each sign. Signs 117 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:26,960 must comply with chapter 54 of the city 118 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,280 of Hartford Municipal Code. of vehicle 119 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:31,680 parking. Again, one space for each 350 120 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,440 square feet of floor area for retail 121 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,280 sales, plus one space for each employee 122 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,600 on the largest work shift. Pawn brokers, 123 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,800 secondhand article dealers, and 124 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,880 secondhand jewelry dealers must comply 125 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,840 with the requirements of section 3209 of 126 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,600 the municipal code as applicable and 127 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,840 outdoor storage is strictly prohibited. 128 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,520 Uh so that is what we are recommending 129 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:55,510 with those uh seven conditions. 130 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,520 » All right. So the next part of the 131 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,479 public hearing is appearances and favor. 132 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:10,309 Anyone wishing to appear in favor? 133 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:11,680 » Then please just state your name and 134 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,479 address. 135 00:06:14,479 --> 00:06:17,680 >> 418 Hartford. And I'm here obviously to 136 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,600 say that I'm in favor of it. 137 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,479 >> Super. Thank you. 138 00:06:20,479 --> 00:06:23,360 >> Thank you. 139 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,600 >> All right. Anyone else wishing to appear 140 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,240 in favor? 141 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Last call. Anyone wishing to appear in 142 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,160 favor? 143 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,560 All right, then we go to appearances in 144 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,749 opposition. 145 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:41,680 Second call, appearances in opposition. 146 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,600 And last call, appearances in 147 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,360 opposition. 148 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,039 All right, then I declare this hearing 149 00:06:47,039 --> 00:06:48,960 closed 150 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,600 uh for discussion by plan commission. 151 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,280 And Jacob, I just had a question for 152 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,240 you. Uh, did you go over this all with 153 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,199 uh the applicants? 154 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,039 >> We sent this out to the applicant last 155 00:06:59,039 --> 00:07:01,599 week with our with our uh write up so 156 00:07:01,599 --> 00:07:03,120 that they were aware prior to the 157 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,840 meeting. 158 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,000 >> And as far as you know, is everything uh 159 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,800 in order? 160 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,319 >> We've been in discussion with them about 161 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:11,039 several things. Uh I I believe possible 162 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:12,560 accessory structure in the future or 163 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,400 storage. So we have been in 164 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,680 communication with them on some of the 165 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,800 stuff, but uh again they're they're 166 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,720 aware of that. 167 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Okay. Thank you. Anyone else questions 168 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,120 or comments? 169 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:25,520 >> Tom? 170 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,479 >> Yes. Um on the building um and was 171 00:07:28,479 --> 00:07:30,880 handwritten. There's a fence that's to 172 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,680 the west of the building. Um that fence 173 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,800 is that going to be for um additional 174 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,560 storage or uh what is what's the uh the 175 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:46,950 reason for that? 176 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,240 And so it's uh 177 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,759 >> we 178 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:50,479 go 179 00:07:50,479 --> 00:07:51,840 >> Jake Jacob will answer first. 180 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,440 >> So I don't know for sure what it was 181 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,720 for. I believe uh it was for uh 182 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,319 I don't think it's for outdoor storage. 183 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:16,710 It's mostly for uh 184 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,800 I can't honestly answer what the what 185 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,360 that uh fenced in area is for. 186 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,879 >> Would you like them to answer since 187 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:24,000 >> Yes, please. Yeah. 188 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,160 >> Jared or Patricia, you can come up. 189 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:34,550 >> Yeah. 190 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,959 It's for additional selling space to 191 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:40,719 have like outside concrete planters or 192 00:08:40,719 --> 00:08:42,560 bird baths or whatnot. We wanted to have 193 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:45,519 a secure place um so people couldn't 194 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:47,360 steal the stuff. Like currently right 195 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,440 now we have it all sitting outside in 196 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,519 front of our shops. We just more for a 197 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:53,920 secured place. And our hopes were that 198 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,680 we could put an out building inside that 199 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:59,760 fence and as well as in back and I think 200 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,000 that's part of our packet too. Yes. 201 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,240 >> Um, so and they wouldn't be storage. 202 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,240 They would be additional selling space. 203 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,920 >> Okay. 204 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,519 >> I know how your store is now and you 205 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:11,680 have a lot of lot of items out front. 206 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:13,440 >> Yes. And that's our intent to put it 207 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,839 behind the fencing area and then an out 208 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:17,360 building if possible, but for sure the 209 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,320 fencing area if we could. 210 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,360 >> Very trusting. 211 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,200 >> Yes, I know. 212 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,519 >> Okay. Um All right. Yeah, makes sense. 213 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:24,240 Makes I just 214 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,360 >> Okay. Thank you. 215 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,000 >> Sure. 216 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,920 >> Would go ahead. So, would that become an 217 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,519 possibly an issue as far as it being 218 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:35,360 outside 219 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,680 selling space as opposed to outside 220 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:38,959 storage space? 221 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:41,920 >> Uh, no. The exterior retail area would 222 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,959 not be be an issue. Again, we would ask 223 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:48,240 when we the fence gets approved that the 224 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,760 street facing side has uh it it's pretty 225 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 much going to be uh it's going to block 226 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,560 all vision into that so that it kind of 227 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,399 takes away from that possible uh 228 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:02,640 aesthetic 229 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,440 pos problem the problematic uh kind of 230 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,640 issues that you can see with some of 231 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,560 that outdoor sales stuff. So, we would 232 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,160 ask for more of a privacy fence along 233 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,800 the the Sumar Street portion. And then 234 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,240 again, the sheds. I think the biggest 235 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,680 issue with the sheds is fire code. Uh 236 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:19,600 just because you can't be you have to be 237 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,040 a certain distance from a building 238 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,720 unless you're going to sprinkler and 239 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,360 stuff like that. So, again, it it it 240 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,839 becomes an issue. 241 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:29,440 >> Thank you. 242 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,560 >> Anyone else? 243 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:35,120 >> If not, I would entertain a motion. 244 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,720 >> I'll make a motion to approve. 245 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,720 >> I'll second. Motion by Tom, second by 246 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,880 Tony 247 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,920 for uh sorry, approve. 248 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,600 >> I know. 249 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,120 >> Approving the proposed conditional use 250 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,880 permit to allow for the operation of a 251 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,200 secondhand store at 1336 East Sum 252 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,440 Street, zone B3 General Business 253 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,480 District. 254 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,160 >> All right. Any final uh Oh, and uh per 255 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,760 the uh seven uh recommendations of the 256 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,000 planning staff. 257 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,680 Um, 258 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:08,399 any final comments or questions? 259 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:10,160 Seeing none, all those in favor signify 260 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,120 by saying I. 261 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:11,920 >> I. 262 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,440 >> Opposed? Nay. 263 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,240 >> Motion passes. 264 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,000 All right. Fifth item on the agenda is 265 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,760 discussion and consideration of the 266 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,720 proposed architectural review in the CC3 267 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,399 downtown core district for First 268 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,720 National Bank doing business as Forte 269 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,160 Bank at 114 1116 West Sumner Street. 270 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Jacob. 271 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,800 >> All right. Uh, First National Bank doing 272 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,800 business as Forte Bank is proposing to 273 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,360 do an exterior renovation of their uh, 274 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,360 current 6,620 ft building located at 114 275 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,079 1114 and 1116 West Sumar Street. 276 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:48,560 Uh, this is the location of that uh, 277 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,440 right just right across the Johnson 278 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,680 Street alley here or not alley but North 279 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:55,680 Johnson Street right across from us 280 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:57,600 here. 281 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,519 It is CC2. So this isn't the CC3 is more 282 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:04,240 the business core of the downtown. CC2 283 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,480 is the extension of the commercial 284 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,360 district specifically along uh the west 285 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Sumar East Sumar uh portion of the older 286 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,079 part of the city. 287 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:16,959 So this is the existing structure 288 00:12:16,959 --> 00:12:20,160 from the southeast 289 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,639 again from West Summer Street view from 290 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:25,839 the southwest and then the backside with 291 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:31,040 the uh drive-throughs for the cashiers 292 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,350 or the bankers 293 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,200 and then along North Johnson Street 294 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,959 looking towards uh West Sumar. 295 00:12:40,959 --> 00:12:42,880 Uh the proposed M materials are 296 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,200 longboard uh 6-in tongue and groove 297 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,399 planks, light cherry uh 298 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:52,160 and then uh some other uh I'm not 299 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,839 proficient on this, but vintage wood 300 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:57,760 nitana it's an ash and then also using 301 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,240 coping uh pack clad graphite as well as 302 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,920 uh more of an ash gray. 303 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,160 So this is the proposed 304 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,240 uh again from the southeast street view. 305 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Uh the brick facade is of that planking. 306 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,680 The signage we are not covering tonight 307 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,440 because signage code is different and it 308 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,959 doesn't it that doesn't need plan 309 00:13:20,959 --> 00:13:22,320 commission approval for signage that 310 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,000 just goes that's interior unless they 311 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 need to appeal. 312 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,519 And then again, uh the renovation on the 313 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:31,519 looking from the southwest street, the 314 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:36,870 renderings there with the planking 315 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,440 and then also then the canopy portion of 316 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,399 the drive-thru is more of that ash plank 317 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:45,040 wood look to it. 318 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,160 So that is what uh is coming before you. 319 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,079 Uh again, we're recommending approval of 320 00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:52,240 the architectural plan uh in the city of 321 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,959 Hartford's CC2 downtown transition 322 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:58,240 zoning district at 11:14 and 116 Western 323 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Sum West Sumner Street uh with the 324 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,959 following conditions. A sign permit must 325 00:14:02,959 --> 00:14:04,800 be submitted for each of the new signs 326 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,800 and they must comply with chapter 54 and 327 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,079 then maintain compliance with the 328 00:14:08,079 --> 00:14:09,920 exterior material standards, which this 329 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,480 does. So again, we have no issues with 330 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,320 this and we recommend approval by the 331 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,360 plan commission. 332 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,040 >> Great. Thanks, Jacob. Yeah, I'd like to 333 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,639 just say um it's always good to see uh 334 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:24,240 when uh businesses in the city um take 335 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,040 pride in in their uh buildings and you 336 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,959 know want to keep it you know clean and 337 00:14:28,959 --> 00:14:31,760 up to date and and uh like I said this 338 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,760 is quite an improvement. Thank you. 339 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,760 Appreciate that. Anyone else? 340 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,360 If not, I'll entertain a motion. 341 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,800 >> I'll make a motion to approve. 342 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:41,839 >> Motion by Dave. 343 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:42,240 >> Second. 344 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,240 by Tom. 345 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,920 again. Um, oh my goodness. Sorry guys. 346 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,880 For the approval of I'm just going to go 347 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,629 back to this one. 348 00:14:56,639 --> 00:14:59,040 The architectural review in the CC2 349 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,800 downtown transition zoning district 350 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,320 114116 Summer Street uh improvements. 351 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,320 Any final questions, comments, or 352 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,920 discussion? 353 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,680 >> Seeing none, all those in favor signify 354 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:10,880 by saying I. 355 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,160 >> I. 356 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:18,629 >> Oppos? Nay. Motion passes. 357 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:20,480 All right. Next item on the agenda is 358 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,560 discussion and consideration for a 359 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,639 special exception for exterior material 360 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:27,120 standards for fire station number two at 361 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,680 1455 Shower Drive. 362 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,959 >> All right. Uh we 1455 Shower Drive. This 363 00:15:32,959 --> 00:15:34,959 came to us at the last plan commission 364 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:38,079 meeting. Uh looking over the plans and 365 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:40,320 also after what was approved by the plan 366 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,320 commission. Uh there will be issues with 367 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,560 the exterior material standards under uh 368 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,079 chapter 52. Uh to address that, they do 369 00:15:48,079 --> 00:15:49,839 allow as you I don't I'm not going to 370 00:15:49,839 --> 00:15:51,839 read all of it in the in the packet, but 371 00:15:51,839 --> 00:15:53,279 there is an allowance for a special 372 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:54,880 exception. A special exception's 373 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,639 different than a variance. There is no 374 00:15:56,639 --> 00:15:59,600 need for a hardship. Uh this is just the 375 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,120 plan commission and it stops here at the 376 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,240 plan commission. doesn't go on to the 377 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,959 common council uh to review and see if 378 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:06,880 this is aesthetically pleasing enough 379 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:14,959 and it would work in the surrounding uh neighborhood of of this development. 380 00:16:14,959 --> 00:16:18,480 Uh again, part of it if you look into 381 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,360 our into the packet, so one of the 382 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,639 things that talked about was the 383 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:24,079 prevailing materials used on the 384 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:26,480 building is in the same area. Uh there 385 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,199 are two structures currently along uh 386 00:16:29,199 --> 00:16:32,959 County Trunk Highway K. uh that are uh 387 00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:36,160 that do have uh corrugated metal siding. 388 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,000 One being uh 3 3462 County Trunk Highway 389 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,079 K, which is Simples Auto Repair. Again, 390 00:16:42,079 --> 00:16:44,079 that is in the city of Hartford. It's 391 00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:45,920 set back a little bit, but again, that 392 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,079 is uh Corrugated Metal. And the other 393 00:16:48,079 --> 00:16:50,800 one is 1457 East Summer Street, uh 394 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Cherry Auto. Uh that one is a main and 395 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,120 that one's right up front in our one of 396 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,000 our busiest corridors. uh for that uh 397 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,240 this will be set back off of our 398 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,920 obviously further down County Trunk 399 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,439 Highway K and not visually you won't be 400 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:07,280 able to visualize or visually see it 401 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,360 from uh West Summer Street or East 402 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:11,280 Summer Street as you go through the 403 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,959 city. Uh and what they're proposing is 404 00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:17,280 uh this right here. Again, they're using 405 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,120 uh metal paneling to kind of break up 406 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:23,760 the the corrugated metal siding. It's 407 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,280 that white um three or six inch uh 408 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,120 paneling 409 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:30,799 through there as well as then on the 410 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:34,480 fire station two uh number is that u it 411 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,039 is a metal clad but it it it has that 412 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:39,919 simulated wood look which breaks up that 413 00:17:39,919 --> 00:17:42,000 uh corrugated metal siding. as well as 414 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,160 you also have which you don't see with a 415 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,880 lot of commercial developments is you 416 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,960 see glass garage doors on fire stations 417 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,720 which again really softens up that uh 418 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,559 south facing or west facing uh portion 419 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:59,600 of the fire station number two. 420 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,880 And again, this is how it looks from 421 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,160 that other angle. 422 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,720 that wraps around to that one two 423 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,120 windows there uh along the main uh 424 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:12,640 administration administration portion of fire station number two. So we at 425 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,880 this time planning comm or uh planning 426 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,600 staff has no issues with the the 427 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,160 granting of a special exception to allow 428 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,039 uh for uh the the curricade metal 429 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:26,240 paneling as presented. 430 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Since you're here, Tony, did you want to 431 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,320 say anything or 432 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,880 >> I think uh Jacob nailed it. But this 433 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,440 also is the provision to not uh provide 434 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,039 the masonry min. 435 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:38,880 >> Correct. Correct. Yeah. And no masonry 436 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,520 minimum. 437 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,120 >> The masonary facade is out. 438 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,080 >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. 439 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,840 >> Yeah. Okay. 440 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,520 >> All right. Thanks, Jacob. Uh no, I I 441 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,960 tend to agree with it, especially with 442 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,039 the other two buildings um that's 443 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:53,360 already there and and getting hammered 444 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,679 on the budget. So, 445 00:18:55,679 --> 00:18:59,200 >> uh, anything else from commission? 446 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,200 >> If not, I'd entertain a motion. 447 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,480 >> I'll make a motion. 448 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,679 >> Motion by Tony. 449 00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:04,080 >> Second. 450 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,390 by Dave 451 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,200 to approve the uh 452 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,720 special exception for the exterior 453 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,400 material standards for fire station 454 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,559 number two, 1455 Shower Drive. Any final 455 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:20,960 discussion or comments? 456 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,400 >> Seeing none, all those in favor, seeing 457 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,480 nobody by saying I. I 458 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:31,590 >> oppose. Nay. Motion passes. 459 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,679 » And item seven on the agenda, discussion 460 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:36,480 of a subdivision concept plan for Winter 461 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,960 Park Builders LLC. 462 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,840 Jacob. 463 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,600 >> All right. Uh the because this one is 464 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,280 not an actual item and there's more of a 465 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,559 back and forth, we do have the 466 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:45,760 developers here so we can have 467 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,520 conversation back and forth with them. 468 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,600 It's not like your typical uh plan 469 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,039 commission agenda item because it's 470 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:53,360 solely discussion. Uh so again, Winter 471 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:55,440 Park builders, uh they're looking to 472 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,960 build on uh these there's three parcels. 473 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,840 Uh the one parcel is split by uh West 474 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,400 State Street and then the one far 475 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,400 southern parcel there that's highlighted 476 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,120 with the 18 in it, that is the HADC, 477 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:13,679 City of Hartford uh own parcel. uh as 478 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:15,760 part of this uh as we move forward, we 479 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,000 will be looking to reszone this at our 480 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,840 next plan commission meeting and moving 481 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,600 on to common council as this project 482 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,640 moves forward. So again, there's we had 483 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,559 received no comment from any of the 484 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,000 other departments, engineering, fire, 485 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,039 police, water, electric or sanitary. Uh 486 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:34,320 again, the HADC, City of Hartford parcel 487 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,200 will be reszoned in in October here. Uh 488 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,440 and the only really environmental issues 489 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,360 here is there are small patches of 490 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:44,000 wetlands. Um again any type of 491 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,159 development near those will require uh 492 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:49,840 wetland delineation for them and any 493 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,320 applicable permitting through uh the DNR 494 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,159 to if they they look like they're 495 00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:55,360 relatively small if there's going to be 496 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,039 any fill. I don't think they're Army 497 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:58,640 Corps. They're not connected to the 498 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,360 Rubicon River in any way. So I I don't 499 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,520 foresee them being waters of the nation 500 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,960 of the United States of America, more 501 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,120 waters of the state type of scenario. 502 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:08,880 And then uh there are no flood planes 503 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,720 located on these three uh parcels that 504 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,360 we have to worry about. Uh so again uh 505 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,919 from a planning perspective uh we don't 506 00:21:15,919 --> 00:21:18,799 have any issues uh 507 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,480 looking at it uh based off of what we 508 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,919 had prior when we created TID 14 for 509 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:29,440 this parcel uh or as part of this uh as 510 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,440 part of this development that to go with 511 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,280 the DJS uh we had around 600 units of 512 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,240 dwelling units at about close to 100 513 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,320 acres. So that comes out about 61 units 514 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,720 per acre. Uh, and this is a mix of 515 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,679 single family as well as villas, uh, 516 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:50,240 town homes and then also multif family 517 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,919 apartments. 518 00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:57,510 And then I'll pull up the 519 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:06,710 PowerPoint from the developer. 520 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:12,720 And this was the prior uh layout. It's on the side. 521 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,120 Again, north is facing that way, but 522 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,440 this is kind of how it was planned out. 523 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,120 Uh just north of uh West State Street. 524 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,679 And again, this is the portion that will 525 00:22:23,679 --> 00:22:26,320 most likely or it's actually the south 526 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,600 the southern portion of West State 527 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Street that'll be developed first and 528 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,320 then moving along to eventually this way 529 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,360 to the to the north. 530 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,960 and Scott can fill in if any more. 531 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,120 >> Hi, Scott Simon with Winter Park 532 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,200 Builders. I just wanted to come in front 533 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,960 of you to see how you felt about the 534 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,440 development, what you were thinking for 535 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,440 the future. I know this is part of your 536 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,200 planning area. We've been working with 537 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,840 staff for over a year now and we've been 538 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,400 working with Tom and with um everybody 539 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,080 else trying to see what the best fits 540 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,640 would be. We started with the basis of 541 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,640 working off the Tracy Cross report that 542 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,520 was done for you in 2024 543 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,520 and a lot of our product is based on 544 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,919 what they had recommended. 545 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:12,320 What we have now is just a regular 546 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,159 drawing showing you where things are 547 00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:15,280 going to be. We're going to be closing 548 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,679 on the parcel at three separate times. 549 00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:19,840 So, um, based on our most recent 550 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,000 discussion with staff, they had said 551 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,520 that there is the greatest need for 552 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,480 multif family now. So, we're probably 553 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,919 going to try to push that forward when 554 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:29,280 we were going to keep bring that at the 555 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,919 end. Wanted to see if you had any issues 556 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:34,480 with that. And the pictures that he's 557 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,320 taking past you now, if you go back one, 558 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,039 please. That's what our ranch villas 559 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:41,440 will look like. There are between 1,400 560 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,400 and,600 square ft. And there's three 561 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,720 different floor plans and exposures if 562 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720 needed. If not, that's sort of the 563 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,720 baseline. If you want to go on to the 564 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,240 next one, those are our it's three-story 565 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,600 town homes. They're called terrace 566 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,520 residents for us cuz they're two in a 567 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,159 building. So, it's just again the type 568 00:24:00,159 --> 00:24:02,080 of feel we're trying to bring and we 569 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,600 wanted to make sure that that was good 570 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,520 with you. 571 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520 >> No, I thought they they looked very good 572 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,080 and I know you guys uh had challenges 573 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,120 with that site and uh um trying to make 574 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:16,000 these things work uh isn't always easy. 575 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,840 Um I'm assuming that was the case. 576 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,880 >> Part of it. Yes. 577 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,440 >> Yeah. Well, thank you. Appreciate that. 578 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,120 Anyone else? How many units to the 579 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:26,240 multif family? 580 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,480 >> We're looking at 200 of the apartments 581 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,039 plus or minus. Um the two other people 582 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:32,640 I've talked to about doing it with are 583 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,080 about 150 to 180. We're looking at a 584 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,600 portion that would be single family for 585 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,000 rent and town home for rent as well. 586 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,919 Again, not definitive numbers, but no 587 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:43,360 more than 100 is what we're thinking 588 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,520 right now. Um single family 589 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,919 approximately 100. Ranch villas just 590 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:50,000 over that. And the town homes are the 591 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,960 terrace homes just over that. 592 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,279 and Jacob, there wouldn't be an issue 593 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:59,039 with um I guess developing the 594 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:02,080 multifamily portions before the single 595 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,919 family portions would there. 596 00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:05,840 >> I I generally like doing multif family 597 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,520 first because once you got the single 598 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,159 family in, no one ever wants to multif 599 00:25:10,159 --> 00:25:12,080 family coming in next to them. So that's 600 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,919 usually why I like multif family first. 601 00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:14,799 >> Good point. Sure. 602 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,400 >> Yeah, 603 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,200 >> there you go. Just a question for you, 604 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,720 Scott. As far as the the terrace 605 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,120 terraces here, from a parking 606 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,960 standpoint, do they have their own 607 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,039 parking? Do they have are they parking 608 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:28,480 on the street or how does that work? 609 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,559 >> Every unit has a two-car garage along 610 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:33,520 with a 24T pad behind it. So, each one 611 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,840 can take four cars and they're rear 612 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,679 loaded off of an alleyway for appearance 613 00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:38,559 as well. 614 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:39,200 >> Excellent. 615 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,720 >> Yes, 616 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,159 it's good. 617 00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:42,799 >> Anyone else? 618 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:43,679 >> Good. 619 00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:45,039 >> I think they look great. 620 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:46,240 >> No, it's uh 621 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,520 >> they look really good. Yes, looks great, 622 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760 Scott. We we appreciate the work you've 623 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,080 put into this and uh of the ones that 624 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,320 have come before us, this one is looking 625 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480 very very good. So, appreciate it. 626 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,520 >> Thank you. And thank you for your time. 627 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,840 >> Thank you. 628 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,000 >> Um and at this point, I I see you just 629 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,679 have this marked as discussion, 630 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:09,919 >> correct? Yeah. Uh so that there won't be 631 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:11,279 any action as 632 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:12,880 >> No, it's just feedback for the developer 633 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,720 to go back and if they have to change 634 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,799 anything in their in their designs or 635 00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:19,039 any number changes that you'd like to 636 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:21,360 see or anything like that or uh it is 637 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:22,640 also going in front of the common 638 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,880 council the conceptual at the at the 639 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,240 next common council meeting. 640 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,960 >> Okay. Um and I'm sure you went over this 641 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,520 and if you had any issues I I would have 642 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,640 thought you would have brought them up 643 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,200 by now and 644 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,400 >> we would had Yeah, we would have brought 645 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,200 them up already. 646 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,679 >> Sure. Super. Well, no. Well, appreciate 647 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,000 it again. Thank you. Uh, so then on to 648 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240 item eight, uh, adjournment. 649 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,760 >> Make a motion to adjourn. 650 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,360 >> Motion by Dave, 651 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,760 >> second by Tom to adjurnn. Any final 652 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,840 discussions or comments? Seeing none, 653 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,919 all those in favor signify by saying I. 654 00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:57,320 Oppose. Nay. We are adjourned.