1 00:00:51,180 --> 00:00:57,000 All right, this meeting is called to order at 5.30 p.m. This is the council meeting of June 24, 2024. 2 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,300 Kim, please call the roll. Folks, be quiet, please. 3 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:09,200 Huntley, Beam, Consbrook, Ely, Huffaker, Rowan, Hartman, Bong, we have a quorum. 4 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:10,360 Please join me for the pledge. 5 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:11,160 All 6 00:01:31,610 --> 00:01:34,170 right, I'd accept a motion and a second to adopt the night's agenda. 7 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:35,690 Moved to adopt the current agenda. 8 00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:39,050 Motion by Ely, second by Hartman. Please go ahead and vote. 9 00:01:50,050 --> 00:01:55,250 The motion passes seven to zero official notice the regular meeting was published in the Hastings 10 00:01:55,250 --> 00:02:01,430 Tribune on Friday June 21st 2024 pursuant Nebraska revised statute section 84-1412 the 11 00:02:01,430 --> 00:02:05,210 public is advised that a copy today's agenda and all reproducible rent material which 12 00:02:05,210 --> 00:02:06,630 which will be discussed today's meeting 13 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:08,450 is available for public review. 14 00:02:08,870 --> 00:02:11,010 And a current copy of the Nebraska Open Meetings Act 15 00:02:11,010 --> 00:02:13,010 is posted and accessible to members of the public. 16 00:02:13,430 --> 00:02:14,770 The first item on tonight's agenda 17 00:02:14,770 --> 00:02:15,770 is council communications. 18 00:02:15,970 --> 00:02:16,830 Do I have any to my rights? 19 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:19,410 Mr. Collins-Brick. 20 00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:22,130 I've just got a few things I'd like to say. 21 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:25,050 First off, I just want to correct the record 22 00:02:25,050 --> 00:02:27,210 out there for some folks. 23 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:29,190 I know they're going to say what they're going to say 24 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:30,430 and they're going to believe what they're going to believe. 25 00:02:31,090 --> 00:02:33,250 But there's been a lot of misinformation out there 26 00:02:33,250 --> 00:02:37,450 as to how I vote and never give the reason why I vote the way I vote, and that is simply 27 00:02:37,450 --> 00:02:42,790 not true. I have always said why I voted the way I voted. Anybody who had questions about 28 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:47,530 that, I was glad to call and talk to them on the phone. So people will say what they're 29 00:02:47,530 --> 00:02:51,470 going to say, and that's fine. But I felt it was important for me to put out there 30 00:02:51,470 --> 00:02:54,030 that I do explain why I vote the way I vote. 31 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,880 All right. Any other communications to my rights? Any to my left? Mark? 32 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:07,560 as I live on the north edge of town and when I'm driving back and forth those 33 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,860 folks doing the mowing down the median and down the sides are doing a 34 00:03:10,860 --> 00:03:15,580 wonderful job so whoever parks and wrecks or street department whoever that 35 00:03:15,580 --> 00:03:20,200 is it's it's nice to be proud of that sometimes when it gets all long and 36 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,000 looking rough I think all those folks come into our town and looks like we 37 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,920 don't take care of things well it's been looking really nice lately for a 38 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:31,040 a bunch of weeks when it would be real hard to stay on top of the mowing. Thank you. 39 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,860 Matt. Yeah, the Hastings Public Library met last week 40 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:40,220 and had their regular meeting. One update that I wanted to provide, 41 00:03:40,660 --> 00:03:45,580 a really great program that I thought was really helpful and beneficial, 42 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,100 a new program called Senior Planet that the library has just rolled out. 43 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,340 So an opportunity for folks who need some additional assistance 44 00:03:55,340 --> 00:03:59,180 in learning computer skills can go in and take this, 45 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,540 I think it was a nine week course 46 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,400 and so an opportunity for them to learn one on one 47 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,100 with library staff and so I thought it was 48 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:06,940 a really great program. 49 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:10,440 They I think had this week their first graduation 50 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,980 with folks who graduated through that program 51 00:04:12,980 --> 00:04:14,700 and so I thought it was a really wonderful program. 52 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,800 They intend to do it again. 53 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,800 They filled up the first two sessions right away 54 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,580 and so I know that there's a wait list 55 00:04:21,580 --> 00:04:22,740 for more programs in the future. 56 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:22,780 here. 57 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:23,760 All right. 58 00:04:23,980 --> 00:04:24,400 Thank you. 59 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:24,900 Sean. 60 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,700 The Hazings Airport, their monthly burger feed is this Saturday, the 29th, from 11.30 61 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:34,380 to 1.30, and I know they always would like to have as many people who would like to come 62 00:04:34,380 --> 00:04:34,980 out as possible. 63 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:36,600 So come on out, have a burger. 64 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Any other council communications? 65 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:41,080 All right. 66 00:04:41,220 --> 00:04:45,040 Seeing none, we'll move on to citizen communications, this is only for agenda items, not related 67 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,780 to a public hearing. 68 00:04:45,980 --> 00:04:49,900 So really anything other than the alcohol license on the agenda, now is the time 69 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:50,200 to speak. 70 00:04:53,310 --> 00:04:53,930 Who's going to win? 71 00:04:53,930 --> 00:04:55,750 and Brady's got longer legs. 72 00:04:57,630 --> 00:04:58,550 He didn't move quick enough. 73 00:04:58,630 --> 00:04:59,070 There you go. 74 00:05:00,710 --> 00:05:01,990 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 75 00:05:02,170 --> 00:05:03,510 My name is Dan Schwartzkoff. 76 00:05:03,550 --> 00:05:05,850 I live at 1400 North Turner Avenue. 77 00:05:06,610 --> 00:05:12,410 I just wanted to speak regarding asking for your support on the rezoning of the properties 78 00:05:12,410 --> 00:05:13,630 at 26th and Elm. 79 00:05:14,750 --> 00:05:16,510 I live directly south of there. 80 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:22,290 I go by there a lot walking, running, riding my bike, and I just think that the rezoning 81 00:05:22,290 --> 00:05:27,490 turning to that property, turning it from a cornfield to productive residential area 82 00:05:27,490 --> 00:05:32,390 would be in the city's best interest. Just asking for your support on that. 83 00:05:33,610 --> 00:05:35,690 Thank you, Dan. Thank you. Brady. 84 00:05:41,460 --> 00:05:48,260 Brady Rhodes, 1000 West Nite Street. Thanks for letting me speak. In support of Ordinance 85 00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:55,420 4761. I also coordinate an anti-poverty initiative in the community that seeks to 86 00:05:55,420 --> 00:06:00,820 reduce poverty in the Fort County area 30% by 2030. We do a lot of work on the 87 00:06:00,820 --> 00:06:05,000 ground level to support people that are working to get out of poverty but one of 88 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,520 the main challenges are system level issues and the biggest one in our 89 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,060 community is housing. People pay an inordinate amount of money on their 90 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:16,720 housing. They're cost-burdened by housing. Normally that's supposed to be 91 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,060 30% or less of your spending and most often people in poverty are spending 92 00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:26,840 somewhere between 50 to 60 percent. So while this is not necessarily residential homes for low-income 93 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:32,120 people, it's going to ripple throughout the community by providing places for others to live that's 94 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:39,040 going to lift up all ships in a manner of speaking and provide access to housing that's not here 95 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,600 currently but will be as people are moving into those more affordable homes. Thanks very much. 96 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,340 Thanks, Brady. Bill. 97 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,840 My name is Bill Heitzman. 98 00:06:54,700 --> 00:06:56,400 I live at 1612 Hillcrest Drive, 99 00:06:56,820 --> 00:06:57,320 community in Nebraska. 100 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:00,420 And thank you all for allowing us to address 101 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:02,080 the issue of the ordinance 102 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,280 4761. 103 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,200 I, too, would encourage the 104 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,100 support of rezoning that. 105 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,120 There's several reasons it's been addressed 106 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,060 many times. We need, and we've heard this 107 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:13,980 over and over in our community, the need 108 00:07:13,980 --> 00:07:15,980 for housing. This will allow the 109 00:07:15,980 --> 00:07:17,920 extension of housing. It does several other 110 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:23,360 things in my view, we're job creating. We also have heard in our time that we don't grow. 111 00:07:24,580 --> 00:07:29,380 Hey, here's an opportunity to look at our community and foster some growth, and you have that 112 00:07:29,380 --> 00:07:35,080 opportunity and so a port of this to start helping our community grow. And I think another 113 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,320 thing that we've talked about many times is we're not developer-friendly. Let's send 114 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,900 the message that we're developer-friendly. We want people to come here. We want them 115 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:50,060 to build. We want them to create jobs, have the employment. Also, I've tried to hire people 116 00:07:50,060 --> 00:07:55,000 over the years when I was at Central Community College as president, and many times hiring 117 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,680 people if they couldn't find housing, it wouldn't take the job. That's not just with Central. 118 00:08:00,860 --> 00:08:05,300 That's with Hastings College and a lot of people who are employing people and wanting 119 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:08,960 them to come into this community. Let's bring people into our community. Instead 120 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,980 of letting them live in Grand Island, I know out at Hartwell they say they're driving 121 00:08:12,980 --> 00:08:20,460 back and forth even from Lincoln. I encourage you to support and continue the support of 122 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:22,400 this rezoning. Thank you. 123 00:08:23,260 --> 00:08:24,480 Thank you. Jody? 124 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:36,860 My name is Jody Stutson and I live at 709 North Briggs Avenue. I was here during the 125 00:08:36,860 --> 00:08:41,260 last City Council meeting when numerous people came up here to voice their support for 126 00:08:41,260 --> 00:08:47,600 this project. I'm here to support the innate concept project as well. Many of 127 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,120 them commented on the housing need. Some being employers, others were builders, and 128 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,840 people who had to move away due to the lack of housing. I am speaking because I would 129 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,380 like clarity in council members' no votes. Last meeting, the city attorney explained 130 00:09:01,380 --> 00:09:05,800 why this redevelopment area was different than what happened in the 1990s. I'm not 131 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,320 a lawyer, but I trust the experts. Others mentioned the worry about traffic flow 132 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,940 and water runoff. I'm not an engineer, but I trust the opinion of experts. Last 133 00:09:15,940 --> 00:09:20,440 Last week when Governor Pillon was in Hastings, he told the story about telling his father 134 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,800 he wasn't going to participate in the farm program when he was just starting out. 135 00:09:25,660 --> 00:09:29,820 His father told him that was noble, but everyone else participates in the program. 136 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,340 The governor realized it was a wise thing to do if he wanted to become a successful 137 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:34,840 farmer. 138 00:09:35,460 --> 00:09:40,020 At the last meeting, the developer explained that he could take his project anywhere and 139 00:09:40,020 --> 00:09:42,440 it would be approved if Hastings didn't approve it. 140 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,800 This is like Governor Pillon's revelation. 141 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Our neighbors will be successful while we say idle. 142 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,040 I'm standing up here asking that the council members 143 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,300 think about the long-term future of Hastings. 144 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,540 In J.A.F.K.'s book, Profiles and Courage, he says, 145 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,340 going along means more than just good fellowship. 146 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,300 It includes the use of compromise, the sense of things possible. 147 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,520 We should not be too hasty in condemning all compromise as bad morals. 148 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:16,860 for politics and legislation are not matters for inflexible principles or unattainable ideals. 149 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,160 Thank you. Thank you, Jodi. Andrew. 150 00:10:26,350 --> 00:10:29,570 Hi, everybody. My name is Andrew Verbis. I live at 500 East 151 00:10:29,570 --> 00:10:35,390 Ninth Street here in Hastings. I also run a business here in town that employs people in 152 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:40,630 Hastings. And, you know, I'm here to speak in favor and ask that you at all support this 153 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:45,310 project for more housing. One of the main feeders of our business coming in are Hastings 154 00:10:45,310 --> 00:10:49,770 college students just fresh out of school and one of the major things they're always 155 00:10:49,770 --> 00:10:53,610 looking for is housing. And I don't know what it is about this younger generation, but there's 156 00:10:53,610 --> 00:10:53,930 a 157 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:04,500 fact of life here. So having nice housing for them to see and to tour and might actually 158 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:07,640 get them to stay in Hastings a little bit more. So I'm asking that you would support 159 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,860 that. For our business, we employ over 60 people here in Hastings and are growing. 160 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:17,800 So I would like to continue to see this development and others come to Hastings to provide more 161 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,100 housing. 162 00:11:18,220 --> 00:11:20,680 So I'd appreciate your support of this project as well. 163 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:21,220 Thank you. 164 00:11:21,860 --> 00:11:22,660 Thank you, Andrew. 165 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Sean. 166 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:30,980 Good evening. 167 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,000 I'm Sean Norby. 168 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,780 I live at 1509 Westbrook Drive. 169 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:40,400 I'm here in support of the Ordinance 4761 as well, the new housing project. 170 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,380 Speaking on behalf of Mary Lanning, we really struggle when we're trying to recruit 171 00:11:46,380 --> 00:11:54,980 employees to come to Hastings, specifically physicians, providers, licensed folks. The 172 00:11:54,980 --> 00:12:00,660 biggest struggle is the lack of housing and if they can't find it in Hastings, they will 173 00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:07,260 go live elsewhere outside of Hastings and commute. And what happens then, they take 174 00:12:07,260 --> 00:12:14,480 their income and they spend it and invest it in communities around us. And so I would 175 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:22,960 I would encourage you all to support this ordinance and on behalf of Mary Lanning, thank you for your time. 176 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,280 Thank you, Sean. 177 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,200 Shayna. 178 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:33,280 Good evening. 179 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,480 My name is Shayna Smith, 3504 Laredo Lane. 180 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,980 I'm speaking on ordinance number 4761. 181 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:45,140 For the past five years, I've worked in HR and recruiting, specifically in the accounting and finance field, 182 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:52,620 But by far, the most challenging part for young professionals or people looking to move to our community is housing. 183 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,680 I know I'm stating the obvious when I say that new people have to have a place to live. 184 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,400 And as you know, we are in dire need of this housing. 185 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,580 The project in particular is very important because of the amenities that go along with it. 186 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:09,200 It allows us to give young professionals something they would typically find in more urban areas 187 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,020 and allows us to compete for young people coming out of our universities and colleges. 188 00:13:13,020 --> 00:13:18,020 is being able to attract young talent is vital to the growth of the business community and 189 00:13:18,020 --> 00:13:22,220 of the future of Hastings. So I ask that you vote in favor of the rezoning for the innate 190 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:24,180 concepts project. Thank you. 191 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,860 Thank you, Shannon. Matt. 192 00:13:31,730 --> 00:13:36,150 Hello, everyone. Matt Habrock, 620 West 2nd Street. I'm going to echo some of the comments 193 00:13:36,150 --> 00:13:39,810 that have just been said. I am the general manager of Landmark Implement, the John 194 00:13:39,810 --> 00:13:43,350 Deere dealership here in town. In the last 10 days, I've had an opportunity to 195 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:47,530 interview and extend offers to two individuals currently living in Kansas that want to 196 00:13:47,530 --> 00:13:51,450 moved to Nebraska. One of them is a sprayer technician with over 30 years of experience. 197 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:55,590 Another one is a parts counter employee who would be coming in to take an assistant manager 198 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:59,750 role with 12 years of experience. Finding people of that kind of experience does not 199 00:13:59,750 --> 00:14:04,890 happen in our industry. I cannot get them to commit to accepting the positions that 200 00:14:04,890 --> 00:14:08,870 we have open right now because they're not able to find housing. So currently, I'm 201 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:11,850 in the middle of probably going back and forth in text messaging all evening tonight 202 00:14:11,850 --> 00:14:16,230 because it's already started to discuss what that wage rate change would have to 203 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:20,690 be to accommodate one of these individuals to live in Grand Island and commute to Hastings 204 00:14:20,690 --> 00:14:24,430 to come work. So he spent the last two weeks trying to find an opportunity to live in Hastings. 205 00:14:24,810 --> 00:14:28,110 Most likely it would be a homeowner down the road, but is needing a project like this, 206 00:14:28,170 --> 00:14:32,930 like what Ordinance 4761 would allow in order to find that housing necessary for him to 207 00:14:32,930 --> 00:14:36,870 come in, understand our community, identify where he and his family would want to live, 208 00:14:37,150 --> 00:14:40,670 and ultimately become a homeowner in our town. So as an existing business who's 209 00:14:40,670 --> 00:14:44,650 done business in this community for generations, it's not just about the growth as important 210 00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:49,010 that is as an existing business. We're begging you. We need access to housing to bring our 211 00:14:49,010 --> 00:14:52,750 people into town to recruit people to come and fall in love with Hastings just like I 212 00:14:52,750 --> 00:14:56,930 did when I moved here six years ago. So please on behalf of the existing businesses that 213 00:14:56,930 --> 00:14:59,970 are begging for housing options as well as the growth and opportunity of this. 214 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,420 This project would provide ask for your support of ordinance 4761. Thanks. 215 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:07,180 Thank you, Matt. All right. Other speakers, come on up. 216 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:22,690 Mr. Mayor and Mr. Councilman, Edward Krantz, 1203, Snipes. I'm not four against this whole 217 00:15:22,690 --> 00:15:27,190 housing thing. I do have a question. John Northrup was here last time. I said he talked 218 00:15:27,190 --> 00:15:33,590 to Attorney General, said it wasn't legal to blight protective thumb grounds. Did anybody 219 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:40,150 I look into that yet? Because if they didn't, isn't the contract around the hook for the 220 00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:42,830 TIFF money? If it gets shot down later? 221 00:15:44,050 --> 00:15:48,730 Well, this isn't about TIFF today, so that's one thing. Yeah, that's been looked into. 222 00:15:49,090 --> 00:15:52,370 Our attorney has looked into that, and I've spoken with John Northrup, and he's in favor 223 00:15:52,370 --> 00:15:53,510 of this project now, too. 224 00:15:53,750 --> 00:15:55,050 Okay, I just say that. 225 00:15:55,210 --> 00:15:57,150 I heard you think I wanted to find out for sure for myself. 226 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:58,470 Sounds great. Thank you. 227 00:15:58,690 --> 00:15:58,990 Thank you. 228 00:16:00,210 --> 00:16:00,870 Other speakers? 229 00:16:17,860 --> 00:16:22,440 As you know, I stated in writing, and during public hearing two weeks ago, our concerns 230 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,720 about stormwater runoff and traffic of the Elm 26 subdivision. 231 00:16:27,620 --> 00:16:29,540 To date, I haven't heard anything new. 232 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,420 Anyone reached out from the developer staff or Olson Engineering regarding those two concerns 233 00:16:35,420 --> 00:16:36,120 two weeks ago. 234 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,480 First stormwater runoff is my biggest concern, and it's been an issue since the North 235 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,500 report, comments, and Osborne states were being developed. In fact, when Mr. Bunger came 236 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:51,600 to town, I met with him at his office on Yost Avenue and showed pictures of the flooding 237 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,420 that occurred May 22, 2020, that wiped out the East 26th Street Farm. The flooding cost 238 00:16:57,420 --> 00:17:01,320 them their organic certification. Since I've heard from no one regarding these issues, 239 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,860 I've called the Upper Big Blue NRD and shared this info. The water manager at NRD recommended 240 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:09,880 that I contact the U.S. Corps of Engineers in Omaha, 241 00:17:10,100 --> 00:17:12,120 which was done to open a 404 case 242 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:13,900 in possible permitting process. 243 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,980 That was done last week. 244 00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:18,400 On our own, I've also hired a creek study group 245 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,500 to review and begin sampling my waterway issues and damages. 246 00:17:22,220 --> 00:17:23,580 This issue is not going away. 247 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,960 And five years ago, when it was not addressed, 248 00:17:26,220 --> 00:17:27,920 NRD staff suggested it could be fixed. 249 00:17:28,020 --> 00:17:30,480 It would likely cost $10 million and 10 years to fix. 250 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,100 When sharing this information of cost again, 251 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,720 they said the cost has only gone up. 252 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:39,060 Second, I'm very concerned about the roadway issues surrounding a high-density housing 253 00:17:39,060 --> 00:17:39,560 development. 254 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:43,780 I am shocked that engineering wouldn't have at least created turning lanes, large curb 255 00:17:43,780 --> 00:17:47,860 cuts for ingrass and egress, and proposed changes to the speed limits, et cetera. 256 00:17:48,420 --> 00:17:51,360 This usually is a cost that is figured into the development package. 257 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,380 To date, no neighborhood meetings have been set up by the city or the developer to 258 00:17:55,380 --> 00:17:58,660 discuss the specific traffic issues or future changes. 259 00:17:59,260 --> 00:18:05,460 Lastly, until those issues above are those two issues are resolved, it's an I'm unable 260 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:06,660 to support this project. 261 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,240 I do look forward to the expert opinions regarding the long-term fixes of these important issues 262 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:11,880 to our community. 263 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:13,060 Thank you. 264 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,500 Other citizens. 265 00:18:15,860 --> 00:18:16,140 Any questions? 266 00:18:17,140 --> 00:18:17,340 No, sir. 267 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:19,100 Other citizens. 268 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,300 Chuck Holmberg, 717 North Cedar. 269 00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:36,320 I'm going to pick on Joy and Sean a little bit. 270 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:43,640 I've got to ask you, how many employees at your business do you pay $25 an hour or more? 271 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:51,740 Reason I bring that up is, if you're making $25 an hour or more, a third, they say, the 272 00:18:51,740 --> 00:18:53,440 company says a third can go for rent. 273 00:18:54,060 --> 00:18:58,080 A third of it is going to go for taxes and off your payroll check. 274 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:07,440 That leaves about $1,300 left for utilities, car, car insurance, gas, food, phone, student 275 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,520 loans, and you better not have a doctor, you don't have to go to. 276 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:17,880 And this is just for a one bedroom apartment, $1,100. 277 00:19:18,420 --> 00:19:19,720 They call them studio apartments. 278 00:19:20,020 --> 00:19:25,780 So my concern is how many people are making $25 an hour to fill these apartments. 279 00:19:25,780 --> 00:19:31,720 So, I ask you both, how many people you've paid $25 an hour or more? 280 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:34,800 All right, thank you. 281 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:36,220 Can't give an answer? 282 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,740 This isn't a Q&A. 283 00:19:38,980 --> 00:19:39,920 All right, other citizens? 284 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:47,440 Seeing none, we will go on to Mayor's Communications. 285 00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:53,760 Just a reminder that fireworks sales are going to be starting up here on June 28. 286 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:56,420 And we'll go through the fourth, obviously. 287 00:19:56,420 --> 00:20:04,900 Obviously, from June 28th to July 2nd, fireworks are sold from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. and shot off 288 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:08,560 and can be shot off until 10 p.m. And then on the 3rd and 4th of July can be shot off 289 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,860 until midnight. I will, I bet probably all of us up here can agree that this is probably 290 00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:17,680 one of the times a year that we get the most complaints from citizens about neighbors 291 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,980 not minding those hours and shooting off fireworks at 1 a.m. in the morning. Please 292 00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:29,280 Please be neighborly, please be considerate and consider your neighbor's pets or folks 293 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,160 out there, maybe the PTSD as well, but please enjoy the 4th of July. 294 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:40,240 We have a lot of great events going on out at the Brickyard Park obviously on the 4th 295 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:46,260 of July as well as the YWCA parade during the day around noon around Fisher Fountain. 296 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,020 So I hope you all can make it out there. 297 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,120 That's all that I have, so we'll move on to the CONSID agenda. 298 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:52,480 Is there anything that needs to be removed? 299 00:20:53,580 --> 00:20:56,240 Motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. 300 00:20:56,660 --> 00:20:56,840 Second. 301 00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:58,980 Motion by Fong, second by Hartman. 302 00:20:59,140 --> 00:20:59,720 Please go ahead and vote. 303 00:21:01,860 --> 00:21:02,340 Fong. 304 00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:03,140 Yes. 305 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:03,920 Hartman. 306 00:21:04,380 --> 00:21:04,600 Yes. 307 00:21:04,980 --> 00:21:05,360 Rowan. 308 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:05,920 Yes. 309 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:06,980 Hephaker. 310 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:07,560 Yes. 311 00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:08,400 Ealy. 312 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,000 Yes. 313 00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:10,020 Consbrook. 314 00:21:10,260 --> 00:21:10,440 Yes. 315 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:11,300 Huntley. 316 00:21:11,780 --> 00:21:12,060 Yes. 317 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,320 The motion passes 7 to 0. 318 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,140 Moving into the regular agenda, 319 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,320 there is no unfinished business. 320 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,100 We'll move into public hearings, item A, 321 00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:21,320 public hearing on the application of Valentini's 322 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:29,440 LLC doing business as Valentini's martini bar and gallery for a class C liquor license beer wine spirits on and off sale at 323 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,340 3609 some are on Plaza Suite 135 324 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,940 Public hearing is now open 325 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:36,200 chief 326 00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:47,410 Mayor and council the police department process the application for Valentini's martini bar and gallery and 327 00:21:47,410 --> 00:21:54,090 The manager Maria madrigal and we found no disqualifications and would recommend approval of the license 328 00:21:54,730 --> 00:21:55,330 Thank you. 329 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:56,250 Thank you, Chief. 330 00:21:57,050 --> 00:21:57,910 Are there any speakers? 331 00:22:02,650 --> 00:22:04,110 He's a staff member. 332 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:05,750 You can come back up if you'd like to state it, 333 00:22:05,810 --> 00:22:07,990 but as a staff member, I think we all know Chief's story. 334 00:22:08,790 --> 00:22:11,430 Adam's story, 317 South Burlington Avenue, 335 00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:12,630 Hastings Police Department. 336 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:13,810 All right, thank you. 337 00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:16,750 Are there any speakers for this item? 338 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:18,410 Any against? 339 00:22:19,450 --> 00:22:22,470 Either way, public hearing is not closed. 340 00:22:22,990 --> 00:22:24,530 I need a motion and a second for approval. 341 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:30,390 motion to approve resolution number 2024-37 approving the application of 342 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:34,970 Valentini's LLC doing business as Valentini's martini bar and gallery for a 343 00:22:34,970 --> 00:22:39,590 class C liquor license at 3609 Simron Plaza suite number 135 344 00:22:41,470 --> 00:22:46,550 motion by Hartman second by Ely any questions or discussion from council 345 00:22:46,550 --> 00:22:50,260 All right, seeing none, please go ahead and vote. 346 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:51,220 Huntley? 347 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:51,680 Yes. 348 00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:52,620 Consbrook? 349 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,080 Yes. 350 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:53,800 Ealy? 351 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,280 Yes. 352 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,000 Huffaker? 353 00:22:55,260 --> 00:22:55,500 Yes. 354 00:22:55,940 --> 00:22:56,300 Rowan? 355 00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:56,800 Yes. 356 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:57,560 Hartman? 357 00:22:57,860 --> 00:22:58,080 Yes. 358 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:58,820 Fong? 359 00:22:59,120 --> 00:22:59,420 Yes. 360 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,080 All right, the motion passes seven to zero. 361 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:04,580 Moving on, item B, approval of the manager application 362 00:23:04,580 --> 00:23:07,980 of Maria Madrigal in connection with the Class C 363 00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:09,940 liquor license of Valentini's LLC, 364 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560 doing business as Valentini's Martini Bar and Gallery, 365 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,880 located at 3609 Samara and Plaza Suite 135. 366 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:23,140 I'll make a motion to approve the manager application of Maria Madrigal in connection 367 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:27,320 with the Class C liquor license of Valentini's LLC, doing business as Valentini's 368 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,200 McTinney Bar and Gallery, located at 3609 Simron Plaza, Suite 135. 369 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,700 Motion by Hartman, second by Fong. 370 00:23:36,980 --> 00:23:37,940 Anything else to add, Chief? 371 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,800 Any questions or discussion from Council? 372 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,760 I was in this establishment before this young lady decided to take it over and 373 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,400 run it and if I owned a bar I would want her as a waitress in my bar. I can 374 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,280 hardly think of a way this place would not be successful with her running it. 375 00:23:54,540 --> 00:24:00,600 Very good. Any other any other questions or discussion from Council? All right 376 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,820 seeing none please go ahead and vote. 377 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,540 Fong? Yes. 378 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:06,020 Hartman? Yes. 379 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,520 Rowan? Yes. 380 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,740 Huffaker? Yes. 381 00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:09,980 Ealy? Yes. 382 00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:11,300 Consbrook? Yes. 383 00:24:11,620 --> 00:24:12,520 Huntley? Yes. 384 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,620 All right the motion passes seven to zero. Moving on there is no general 385 00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:22,120 business. We'll move into ordinances and resolutions. Item A, ordinance number 4761, amending the 386 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:26,340 zoning district map to change zoning from R1A, single family residential large lot, 387 00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:32,120 to R3, multiple family residential district for property generally located to the southwest 388 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:36,840 of the intersection of East 26th Street and North Elm Street. And to amend the official 389 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:43,340 zoning map, this is first passed on first reading on June 10th, 2024. So I need to 390 00:24:43,340 --> 00:24:46,840 motion, a second for passage of ordinance number 4761 on second reading. 391 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:53,520 Motion to approve ordinance number 4761, amending the zoning district map to change zoning from 392 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:00,440 R1A single-family residential large lot to R-3 multiple-family residential district for 393 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,400 a property generally located to the southwest of the intersection of East 26th Street 394 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,020 and North Elm and to amend the official zoning district map. It was passed on first 395 00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:11,720 reading in June 10th, 2024. 396 00:25:14,060 --> 00:25:18,980 Motion by Fong, second by, or motion by Hartman, second by Fong. Sorry about that. 397 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:25,220 Staff. Chad, anything to add? No, sir. I have nothing else. I've had Chad Bunger, 398 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,840 Director of Development Services. Okay. Any questions or discussion from Council? 399 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:31,660 Sean. 400 00:25:35,250 --> 00:25:39,770 After the overwhelming amount of support that this received at our last reading, 401 00:25:39,770 --> 00:25:44,890 I actually took count tonight, and I got, according to my numbers, 8 to 2. 402 00:25:45,330 --> 00:25:50,330 I just would like to make sure that our council vote mirrors that in some way, shape, or form. 403 00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:56,170 It's disappointing when you can see this kind of support for something and then still see 404 00:25:56,170 --> 00:25:58,750 so many people vote against it without explanation. 405 00:25:59,890 --> 00:26:00,150 Okay. 406 00:26:03,290 --> 00:26:03,750 Butch. 407 00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:12,700 Well, I spoke to Chad just before the meeting, and my figures were right. 408 00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:19,000 We're still about 1,300 housing units down for the city of Hastings, and that's a lot. 409 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,220 Which means, you know, it's not all about affordable housing. 410 00:26:23,860 --> 00:26:29,500 It's also about workforce housing, and it's about the higher-end housing, you know, as 411 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:34,220 they were talking, doctors, lawyers, you know, so there's several different sets 412 00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:34,700 of housing. 413 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,840 This just happens to be the workforce housing, and we still need that. 414 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,080 but we've been accused I've been on the council seven and a half years and we're 415 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:50,480 always accused of letting the money people swear opinions that we're not 416 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:56,780 developer contractor friendly and not approving something like this just goes 417 00:26:56,780 --> 00:27:01,240 on to say that we're not developer friendly and and that's just not true 418 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,980 we need to do this but 419 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,100 the city is filling up we need to expand and 420 00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:20,920 expand you have to expand out and when we vote on these issues we vote for or we 421 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,120 should be voting for what's good for the city of Hastings what's good for the 422 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:30,320 citizens of Hastings you know and what's good for the future of Hastings 423 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,820 and that's why we all need to vote for this because you know this is just 424 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:41,520 going to put a little dent in the 1300 housing units and if we don't do this 425 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Are we going to get developers that want to build the other 1,100? 426 00:27:49,420 --> 00:28:00,240 We pretty much all ran on transparency issues, you know, and like Sean said, you know, if 427 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,360 we're being transparent, we should be explaining why we're voting the way we are. 428 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:14,860 If nothing else, to let our constituents know why we're doing it, and to also give a chance 429 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:19,460 to, you know, I know there's been a few times that I was going to vote no and somebody says 430 00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:21,440 yeah, but did you think about this or this? 431 00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:27,440 So it gives the council a chance to discuss the item a little bit more and maybe assuage 432 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,480 the concerns that some people may have. 433 00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:34,120 So again, I'm going to be voting for this for the reasons I specified. 434 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:34,840 Thank you. 435 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:36,480 Steve. 436 00:28:37,540 --> 00:28:39,100 What is a 404 case? 437 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,660 I've never heard of that. 438 00:28:42,340 --> 00:28:43,000 Anyone know? 439 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:43,600 What? 440 00:28:44,780 --> 00:28:45,920 A 404 case. 441 00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:47,440 Dr. Dietz mentioned. 442 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,220 Does anyone know what that is? 443 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,080 I'm just asking. 444 00:28:52,140 --> 00:28:55,440 I don't think it's pertinent to the discussion of the reason. 445 00:28:57,820 --> 00:28:59,240 You know, I'm just asking. 446 00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:00,840 I guess I got the right to ask that question. 447 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,520 Maybe explain how it would be relevant, 448 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,740 and then we can discuss it. 449 00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:05,140 but I don't even know what you're talking about. 450 00:29:05,340 --> 00:29:06,200 I've never even heard of it before. 451 00:29:06,740 --> 00:29:08,640 Well, that's what I'm asking what it is. 452 00:29:09,220 --> 00:29:10,580 You don't have a relevancy. 453 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,300 I mean, if you have a reason for asking, 454 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,460 you should have a relevancy. 455 00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:14,780 I mean, why would you ask? 456 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Mr. Hartman, I'll answer that real quick. 457 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,480 It's something that I want to know before I vote. 458 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,600 What is it? 459 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,520 OK, so from staff, we'll answer that. 460 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,260 Yeah, that's what I'm asking. 461 00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:38,320 to provide at least a broad overview of it. As I understand it, Section 404 is part of 462 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:45,400 the Clean Water Act that the U.S. Corps of Army Engineers overseas. So I don't know precisely 463 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:52,680 what the complaint was or what the individual was talking about, but I can only guess that 464 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:59,800 That was a notice given the U.S. Corps of Engineers that there could be some issues regarding water 465 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,660 And 466 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,800 as we discuss this, I'd just like to remind everyone that this is a rezoning application. 467 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,280 What we're talking about today is rezoning. It's not about runoff. It's not about blight 468 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:20,160 or substandard issues. Those have been decided. Those are not what we're talking about today. 469 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,580 We are talking about the rezone as described in this. Other questions or discussions? 470 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,860 Brett, I have a couple of questions. First, I have a comment. I am not against housing. 471 00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:36,940 I never have been. I've always explained my votes. Now that being said, I am not a 472 00:30:36,940 --> 00:30:42,040 rubber stamp. Okay. If I'm going to vote for something, I have to feel comfortable doing 473 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:48,100 it. What that means for me is I need information from the staff or whoever provides that. So 474 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:52,860 that being said, who is generally responsible for these water issues that come up in 475 00:30:52,860 --> 00:30:57,500 these developments? Can anybody answer that question for me? Who does it? The developer, 476 00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:03,330 for the city who who actually does those things typically I mean if it's a 477 00:31:03,330 --> 00:31:06,710 project that we're overseeing at the city it's going to be your city engineer 478 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:10,930 or sometimes we'll contract out for some of those services in this case I 479 00:31:10,930 --> 00:31:18,810 think the water there was a water study done by an outside consultant I'm not 480 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:23,950 sure what the question is there but as far as a responsibility the consultant 481 00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:30,250 for the developer does the calculations and then my staff along with Chad being 482 00:31:30,250 --> 00:31:35,750 the floodplain manager we review to see if it's appropriate per city code so if 483 00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:40,570 that answers well I guess my question is is if there are and it doesn't matter 484 00:31:40,570 --> 00:31:44,950 what development we're talking about okay anytime there's a water issue runoff 485 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:50,830 drainage or whatever it may be who who is the person or the department that is 486 00:31:50,830 --> 00:31:54,710 responsible for getting that taken care of before these projects move forward. 487 00:31:55,030 --> 00:31:58,890 Maybe that's a better way to put that. Because the reason I ask that is, is we 488 00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:02,770 got to do it right to begin with, so we don't have to chase ourselves, chase 489 00:32:02,770 --> 00:32:06,890 our tails later trying to figure out what happened, so we can get it all done the first time. 490 00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:10,550 Basically crossing our i's, doting our t's. And that's information 491 00:32:10,550 --> 00:32:14,190 that has not been provided to us, and it has been brought up. 492 00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:18,870 And so I just want to know who's responsible for doing that, so that we 493 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:23,350 We can do an OK on some project regardless of what it is or where it's at. 494 00:32:23,630 --> 00:32:28,690 If there's a water issue, whose responsibility is it to look into that or do permits or whatever 495 00:32:28,690 --> 00:32:29,150 they got to do? 496 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:29,910 I don't even know what they got to do. 497 00:32:30,430 --> 00:32:34,870 Again, that's the developer's engineer to do the calculations and then engineering 498 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:39,710 staff and development services staff to review, just like what's done with this 499 00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:40,070 development. 500 00:32:40,550 --> 00:32:45,550 And just to be clear, there's a site planning process, right, where we have engineered 501 00:32:45,550 --> 00:32:49,230 site plans that come in to take a look at these sorts of calculations that's not 502 00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:52,530 what we're talking about with the reason I just want to make that clear no I 503 00:32:52,530 --> 00:32:55,450 understand that I just want to make that clear yeah I understand mr. rebutt it but 504 00:32:55,450 --> 00:32:58,670 I want to make sure that we do it right and that's why I'm asking these 505 00:32:58,670 --> 00:33:07,100 questions all right other questions yeah Steve I think everyone in this room 506 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:13,780 agrees we need housing including myself I mean there's a shortage however there 507 00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:17,520 There are still questions, water, traffic, everything. 508 00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:19,040 We need to do this right. 509 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,260 The one great, there's a lot of great things about our country. 510 00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:27,940 One of them is our Constitution. 511 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:34,100 And it gives us a right to vote and speak and inform our own opinions. 512 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:43,880 How often do you see the legislature or the U.S. Congress vote 100 percent in favor 513 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:51,900 of anything. Not very often. In fact, you know, according to the clerk, the journal clerk 514 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:58,720 at the legislature, they don't even vote unanimously to adjourn half the time. Kind of interesting, 515 00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,260 I thought. 516 00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:06,540 I received a recent email that was very disturbing to me. 517 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,240 I'm going to paraphrase 518 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:15,620 a little bit. I'm not going to read the whole thing and thing. But it said, you know, basically, 519 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,060 if you don't vote for this project in my ward, I'm going to hold you accountable. I'm going 520 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:28,140 to make you stand up. And to me, that's exactly what I wrote. And I didn't, it's not paraphrased 521 00:34:28,140 --> 00:34:31,800 if you don't vote for it. If you don't, what does it say on that email? 522 00:34:32,260 --> 00:34:32,460 Well, I'm paraphrasing. 523 00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:36,420 If you don't vote in representation of the people that elected you because the 524 00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:42,540 Obvious support that's coming from the people that not only came to us before counsel see during counsel and even tonight 525 00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:47,740 Wait a minute mr.. Hartman say don't vote it. Don't take my words and spend them if you're gonna read it read it verbatim 526 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:51,460 Don't read it. I know I said I'm paraphrased and I can't I 527 00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:57,940 People that Mr. Hartman even last week oh people in this is what we're going voted against where we're over well 528 00:34:57,940 --> 00:35:03,700 We wanted to say wanted to die Steve. I believe I have the floor. Yes, please go ahead 529 00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:04,680 And this is where we're going. 530 00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:08,020 I took it and you just did a great example 531 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,540 as bullying or intimidation. 532 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:12,840 In fact, 533 00:35:18,490 --> 00:35:21,710 I sent this to my own legal team at my expense. 534 00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:27,110 And they said, Steve, all you can do now is abstain. 535 00:35:27,610 --> 00:35:31,630 No matter how you vote, the validity of your vote 536 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:32,390 is a question. 537 00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:36,570 The biggest thing we have to do is stop the bullying, 538 00:35:36,570 --> 00:35:42,850 stop the intimidation and work together as a council, and then this city will grow. 539 00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:44,810 How is it considered bullying? 540 00:35:45,850 --> 00:35:50,790 Folks, I will hold you accountable. I will make you explain it. 541 00:35:50,830 --> 00:35:51,530 How is that bullying? 542 00:35:51,970 --> 00:35:54,730 You guys are elected officials just like everybody on this side are. 543 00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:56,530 You're supposed to represent our place. 544 00:35:56,750 --> 00:35:57,790 Would you let me explain? 545 00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:01,770 It is, because what you're doing now. 546 00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:09,770 You will not back. You will keep coming after people. You will ridicule them, in my opinion. 547 00:36:10,670 --> 00:36:16,970 You will publicly chastise them. You can humiliate them. And who knows? You might even put them 548 00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:23,570 in a safety issue. I don't know. My opinion. I'm abstaining from this because of this email 549 00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:27,350 that I feel tainted my vote. 550 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,780 I don't have anything to say to that. You guys all got the email. You know what it all says. 551 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600 If you want to share it with everybody else in the crowd, that's up to you. 552 00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:45,020 I was disappointed in the way we represented the people that elected us after our meeting we had on June 10th. 553 00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:50,160 That's exactly what it said. And I felt like you people that voted against it when there was so much overwhelming support 554 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:56,560 owed everybody an explanation. And I spoke with people that were in the crowd that were overwhelmingly disappointed 555 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,620 that they weren't represented fairly. And that's what it said. 556 00:36:59,620 --> 00:37:04,540 It's not a bullying, it's a fair representation of the people that elected us to sit up here 557 00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:07,820 and make smart decisions based on the overwhelming amount of support. 558 00:37:08,780 --> 00:37:12,780 Brad, you even said you're not against the project, you're against the legal issues, and 559 00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:17,000 the legal issues got explained and then you voted against it anyhow, without explanation. 560 00:37:18,940 --> 00:37:19,780 That's not true. 561 00:37:20,660 --> 00:37:21,720 Okay, that is not true. 562 00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:22,920 He gave an explanation. 563 00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:24,460 I did give an explanation. 564 00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:31,800 I said, my hang-up was the legal issue that came up 30 years ago, and that was my biggest 565 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,180 hang-up. 566 00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:37,000 And in fact, I think I said that had that not been, actually I said that in a meeting 567 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,460 I had with Jesse after that, so I'll take that part back. 568 00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:46,020 But no, I said that I was hung up on the legal issues, because at that time when that 569 00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:51,560 vote was put down, or given to the floor, I guess a better way to put it, I still 570 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:59,100 to not have the answer as to why it was different now than 30 years ago. I gave that explanation. 571 00:37:59,580 --> 00:38:03,100 I talked to several people that emailed me and explained that very same thing. I just 572 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:07,840 explained to everybody here tonight. And so I did give an explanation. And I am not for 573 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,660 or against this project. I just want to make sure that it is done right and it's done 574 00:38:11,660 --> 00:38:15,780 properly so that we don't have trouble down the line. And I said that at the last 575 00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:22,660 meeting. That's all I've ever said. And, you know, I don't know. I'm not for or against it, 576 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,740 but I would like to know those answers that I ask. Because if I'm going to vote for something, 577 00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:32,800 yes, I do represent people. But I also have to be comfortable in my chair to vote for something. 578 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,840 If I don't have the information I've been asking for, then my vote is not just going to be a 579 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,520 rubber stamp, yes. I want answers to questions that I have. And I think part of the problem 580 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:48,720 was that was not given to us and that's that's the bottom line on that you feel 581 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:55,860 it's been taken care of now yes and no I do have concerns about water drain off 582 00:38:55,860 --> 00:39:00,980 now with permits and everything else and whatever this comes up with I mean 583 00:39:00,980 --> 00:39:04,720 what it comes down to is you're never going to get everybody to vote 100% 584 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:07,980 all the time okay and I'm staying right here in the record I'm not for 585 00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:10,740 against it but I'm not comfortable with the information on this water 586 00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:13,480 issue because if there is truly a water issue which I have no idea if 587 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,680 there is, because no one's told me if there is. There's been no information on that. 588 00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:25,140 And let me just say that. Is that not pertinent to a developer coming in that everything should 589 00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:31,060 be in order and ready to go for that person to do whatever he's going to do so that there's 590 00:39:31,060 --> 00:39:36,000 nothing that comes back to bite them later, or the city later? And that's all I want. 591 00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:42,260 That's all I've ever asked for. And so, initially, when I did talk to Jesse, yes, 592 00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:48,960 I had a better understanding of that court ruling, but I still am leery because of these 593 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,080 water issues that have come up now, which I don't think, I think they were mentioned 594 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,320 at the last meeting, but that really didn't, that wasn't a thing. 595 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,660 The thing was the legal issue from 30 years ago, which, by the way, was basically the 596 00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:03,060 exact same property, but it's been explained to me now. 597 00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:09,760 But we do have things that I'm concerned about, and that's what that's, I don't 598 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:09,940 know. 599 00:40:09,940 --> 00:40:14,060 So I guess the only thing I can tell you is that I'm not for or against it, so I will 600 00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:19,300 probably abstain as well because there's still concerns I think that we need to address. 601 00:40:21,610 --> 00:40:21,830 Matt. 602 00:40:22,910 --> 00:40:27,230 Chad, there's been a lot of discussion regarding kind of the process from here on out. 603 00:40:27,570 --> 00:40:34,370 The agenda item for us in front of us is a discussion of a rezone of a property from 604 00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:37,450 one designation to another designation district. 605 00:40:37,450 --> 00:40:41,850 Can you maybe talk through just a little bit regarding what the process looks like going 606 00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:47,530 forward in this potentially future development of this site? 607 00:40:48,210 --> 00:40:48,670 Sure. 608 00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:57,350 So, if the rezoning passes, then they can legally be allowed to construct anything 609 00:40:57,350 --> 00:41:03,750 on that list of permitted uses or conditional uses if that process were to be followed. 610 00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:10,070 They obviously want to subdivide, so they proposed to us and was approved two weeks ago. 611 00:41:10,210 --> 00:41:16,370 The preliminary flat basically lays out, this is what our intentions are for the lock configuration, 612 00:41:17,290 --> 00:41:23,510 the layout of the roads, the preliminary design of the infrastructure, as well as 613 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:25,790 the preliminary design of stormwater infrastructure. 614 00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:30,130 So detention, bioswells, piping, all those things. 615 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:39,710 In a few weeks, or no, excuse me, last week the final plot was recommended for approval 616 00:41:39,710 --> 00:41:46,390 to you all by the Planning Commission, which will create the final plot that legally defines 617 00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:54,130 each lot, roadway right away, and then any utility easements that need to be accompanied 618 00:41:54,130 --> 00:42:00,310 with that so that public infrastructure, roadways and what not can be designed by either the 619 00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:07,430 consultant's team for the developer or by the city. That will all correct me if I'm 620 00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:12,670 misstating anything. Once the design is done, then that will be installed, constructed 621 00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:19,430 by the developer. For our specifications or for our design, it will then get turned 622 00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:29,550 over as public infrastructure at that point. We haven't really, well, although the majority 623 00:42:29,550 --> 00:42:36,410 of the infrastructure for storm water will be constructed and installed and reviewed 624 00:42:36,410 --> 00:42:42,290 by engineers, that will all be private, most of it will be private infrastructure, correct? 625 00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:48,150 And so that will mean it will be privately owned and maintained but designed to our 626 00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:54,430 specifications and requirements for the perpetual, you know, for the life of the project. 627 00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:59,570 From there, once the plan is done, all the infrastructure is designed and the majority 628 00:42:59,570 --> 00:43:06,110 of it is in place, then building permits can be applied for and issued and constructions 629 00:43:06,110 --> 00:43:12,650 of any of the buildings can begin then. I hit them all at all the steps. So that 630 00:43:12,650 --> 00:43:16,410 is the process we're looking at from here on out if this is approved. 631 00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:22,750 Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. Just from my perspective, again, our discussion 632 00:43:22,750 --> 00:43:30,290 here is reviewing a zoning designation. I personally, myself, will be casting a vote 633 00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:35,350 in favour of this redevelopment project. I do think we have discussed for a long time 634 00:43:35,350 --> 00:43:40,810 that the housing becomes a significant issue for either our growth or not our growth. 635 00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:45,810 And so we have an opportunity to do that here. We have teams of people in place 636 00:43:45,810 --> 00:43:51,930 from city staff as well as developers who are going to solve these issues that have been 637 00:43:51,930 --> 00:43:58,290 discussed here today. And I would just like to say thank you in eight concepts. We appreciate 638 00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:03,090 you coming to town. We appreciate you wanting to invest in our community. It's important. 639 00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:08,930 And so it's important for our future growth and success. And so I do think it's a good 640 00:44:08,930 --> 00:44:12,470 opportunity for us to see growth in an area where there's already public infrastructure. 641 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:18,450 The lot itself was publicly available for sale for some time, so it was a willing seller 642 00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:20,110 who was willing to sell it for development. 643 00:44:21,070 --> 00:44:27,250 And it's a good opportunity for us to see growth for the community. 644 00:44:27,630 --> 00:44:33,510 And so I'm excited about this and look forward to seeing it come to fruition at some point in the future. 645 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,200 Thank you Matt. 646 00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:37,640 Other questions or discussion? 647 00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:38,180 Sean? 648 00:44:38,180 --> 00:44:45,620 I do want to explore something quickly just with the comments, but things haven't been 649 00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:46,360 explained well. 650 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:54,140 For my perspective, like with the attorney-related stuff, that was, you know, Jesse explained 651 00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:55,640 those things twice now. 652 00:44:56,660 --> 00:44:59,480 Lee, at this point, has explained the water. 653 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,620 And the street issues. And in my mind, these issues have been appropriately addressed. And 654 00:45:06,620 --> 00:45:12,320 I, I, I, is there some, is there some disconnect or something that is not making sense? Because 655 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:17,760 when I'm, when I'm listening to staff, I can tell that they are, you know, at the, the 656 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,400 point that it is here is that they're recommending that it move forward. So is there, is there 657 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,020 some concern or something that's not making sense that, that we've talked about with 658 00:45:27,020 --> 00:45:29,320 those issues? Yeah. 659 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:41,320 Well, like I said, I'm still not clear here where and if there is 660 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:48,240 a water issue, drain off storm amount of whatever you want to term it, has that been addressed 661 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:52,580 or will it be addressed is what I'm trying to figure out here because what I'm getting 662 00:45:52,580 --> 00:45:57,980 right now is, is we're getting information that says there's water issues. It says there's 663 00:45:57,980 --> 00:46:05,060 the geological people in the library, NRD's involved in that. And this does drain into 664 00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:09,840 the Big Blue River, if I remember Lee mentioning that a few weeks back, or a couple weeks back, 665 00:46:10,220 --> 00:46:16,160 that the runoff's got to go somewhere, okay? So to the north and east of there is, 666 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,040 you 667 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:27,140 I just want to know is has the things that need to be done to address those type of issues 668 00:46:27,140 --> 00:46:30,420 been dealt with because, and that's why I ask, who doesn't? 669 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,020 Is it the city? 670 00:46:31,220 --> 00:46:32,400 Is it the development people? 671 00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:33,020 Is it the engineer? 672 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:33,840 Is it the developer? 673 00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:34,620 Who does that? 674 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,800 Because that is not clear to me who actually is responsible for doing that in order to 675 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,460 do it right so we don't have problems later. 676 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,020 So that's what I don't quite understand and I don't believe I've been told yet 677 00:46:48,020 --> 00:46:51,960 Who is responsible for doing that if it came out? I missed it. Okay 678 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,320 So the answer to your questions there as far as legal goes 679 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,500 I know Jesse's looked at this at a variety of different angles. I 680 00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:07,940 Personally after listening to Jesse, I don't have any concerns on the legal aspect of of the concerns that have been brought up with 681 00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:10,280 The water issues and these different things 682 00:47:11,380 --> 00:47:17,280 And with the street issues that have been brought up. I don't think that there's any concerns from engineering at all 683 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,840 based on the new traffic. So in answer to your question I think that there's no 684 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,380 concerns from staff on any issue that's been brought up so you can have that 685 00:47:27,380 --> 00:47:27,760 comfort. 686 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,900 If I may Councilman so 687 00:47:36,110 --> 00:47:38,510 at this point in the development process this 688 00:47:38,510 --> 00:47:46,170 is preliminarily looked at to say this is the proposed development we know 689 00:47:46,170 --> 00:47:51,750 So building footprints generally, we know number of units, parking lot sizes, amount 690 00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:57,270 of impervious services more or less, all provided to us by the consultant and their development 691 00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:59,730 team, or excuse me, the developer and their consultant team. 692 00:48:01,110 --> 00:48:08,610 They take that information and, granted I'm speaking in big broad terms, mind you, 693 00:48:08,730 --> 00:48:14,470 but they then take that and calculate this is the anticipated amount of runoff that 694 00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:15,630 that will come from this development. 695 00:48:16,330 --> 00:48:18,230 And our standards say that you need 696 00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:22,870 to create infrastructure, private or public, 697 00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:24,890 for that stormwater runoff, 698 00:48:25,210 --> 00:48:28,610 that will slow the rate of that runoff 699 00:48:28,610 --> 00:48:31,950 and capture enough so that that post construction, 700 00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:35,950 when it's developed, the amount of runoff 701 00:48:35,950 --> 00:48:37,770 will be equal to or less than 702 00:48:37,770 --> 00:48:41,250 what is coming off the land today as a farm field. 703 00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:47,230 And at this point, the preliminary development plans, excuse me, the preliminary plat, we 704 00:48:47,230 --> 00:48:51,410 require them to say, hey, this is what it's going to be, this is our general concept, 705 00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:57,050 this is where it will be located, pipe sizes, general detention cells, sizes. 706 00:48:57,850 --> 00:49:03,370 And based on that, we think we're going to meet the city's requirements of our development 707 00:49:03,370 --> 00:49:07,110 will have less rate of runoff compared to what's there today. 708 00:49:07,110 --> 00:49:17,930 Then, if approved, then the details are put into place of construction design, actually 709 00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:23,630 constructing it, inspecting it, and then those are all put in place. 710 00:49:23,870 --> 00:49:25,690 And that's where the devil and the details are. 711 00:49:26,890 --> 00:49:33,610 We're not at that point yet because it would be real problematic or real costly 712 00:49:33,610 --> 00:49:41,790 inexpensive if the council doesn't approve those things to put that much detail into 713 00:49:41,790 --> 00:49:47,350 a preliminary plan. We have enough information that says we know what we anticipate what 714 00:49:47,350 --> 00:49:52,670 the runoff will be based on this development and they've met our standards. From there 715 00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:56,670 with the building project or the infrastructure design and construction and the building 716 00:49:56,670 --> 00:50:06,390 projects, we will confirm that they are doing the right, sorry, we will confirm that they 717 00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:14,790 are designing it to those specifications based on engineering. And this project, the developer 718 00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:22,990 and future owners will maintain that infrastructure. So if there were to be a problem, not anticipating 719 00:50:22,990 --> 00:50:30,190 meaning it, but if there were, it would largely be on the developer to correct that if they 720 00:50:30,190 --> 00:50:34,070 are wrong in their miscalculations or they design it wrong or construct it wrong. 721 00:50:35,410 --> 00:50:41,650 We naturally, I think as a city, would probably help in working with the property owners that 722 00:50:41,650 --> 00:50:46,150 are impacted and the developer to figure out solutions with the right authorities. 723 00:50:47,090 --> 00:50:50,650 But largely that is the process and hopefully this is making sense. 724 00:50:50,650 --> 00:50:56,090 We're just not at a point to say absolutely 100% guaranteed this won't be a problem. 725 00:50:56,730 --> 00:51:01,050 Based on our standards, based on the design and what they've proposed, we're real confident 726 00:51:01,050 --> 00:51:07,450 that there should not be any water quantity or quality issues, but we're just not at 727 00:51:07,450 --> 00:51:11,930 that point in the development process to say I'm 100% guaranteed that there won't 728 00:51:11,930 --> 00:51:12,070 be. 729 00:51:12,170 --> 00:51:14,590 And really, largely, there is no 100% guarantee. 730 00:51:14,590 --> 00:51:19,170 they designed to a specific storm or specific amount of rain over a period of 731 00:51:19,170 --> 00:51:26,570 time and if the skies open up we've seen this occur just this last week up north 732 00:51:26,570 --> 00:51:31,250 you can never design for big enough storm but we designed for what's 733 00:51:31,250 --> 00:51:36,410 anticipated or a standard within Hastings so hopefully that is making 734 00:51:36,410 --> 00:51:40,770 sense to you sir. So let me ask this question then if I may. 735 00:51:43,470 --> 00:51:44,570 So what if I 736 00:51:44,570 --> 00:51:50,390 I understand you correctly at this point it's too early to worry about water 737 00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:54,590 concerns is that what you're saying not that it not too early to worry about 738 00:51:54,590 --> 00:52:01,150 water concerns but if I heard your concerns right we don't have the 739 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,760 perfect amount of information or all that to say it will be designed this 740 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:16,000 exact way and it won't, you know, it will or won't cause issues. We require a certain 741 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,500 amount of information at this point in the development process of what's the general 742 00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:26,760 layout of the development going to be, what's the rate of runoff, pre-development versus 743 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:33,200 what's anticipated after full construction, and have you created infrastructure that 744 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,680 will handle that. And then that, if approved, then through the building process, we will 745 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,460 design it. Either the developer's team will design it or the city staff will design it. 746 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:50,660 It will be constructed and then confirm that, yes, it meets our specifications, whatnot. 747 00:52:51,340 --> 00:52:57,460 All that said, again, I've seen it time and time as a floodplain manager, you never 748 00:52:57,460 --> 00:53:01,800 can design for every storm. Something weird is going to happen. It's floodwaters. 749 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,760 things are going to happen but we're confident that it's at this point designed to an appropriate 750 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,220 level that'll keep property and people safe. 751 00:53:13,070 --> 00:53:18,890 And just as a reminder, you are the legislative body and what's in front of you today is 752 00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:24,610 a rezone. You're making a decision on a policy to rezone the property. We're not 753 00:53:24,610 --> 00:53:30,290 necessarily talking about runoff. It sounds like we're beyond the concerns with the 754 00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:36,990 issues. We are talking about this. This is the policymaking phase. After the policymaking 755 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:42,890 phase is either approved or denied, it's approved, you move into site plan phase where we talk 756 00:53:42,890 --> 00:53:46,810 about engineered plans and all that kind of stuff where you actually get into calculations 757 00:53:46,810 --> 00:53:52,110 to accommodate the water runoff and the impervious surface ratio. So all that stuff comes at 758 00:53:52,110 --> 00:53:55,850 this later phase. So we're kind of at that policymaking phase. Your job is to monitor 759 00:53:55,850 --> 00:54:02,050 of the policymaking issues. Let's focus on getting this rezone voted on. Let's continue 760 00:54:02,050 --> 00:54:05,450 the conversation. We need to have the conversation. I just don't want to go too far down this 761 00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:12,950 rabbit hole on drainage issues tonight, okay? Fair enough. All right. Other questions or 762 00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:13,830 discussion from council? 763 00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:19,760 Yes, sir. Based on the reasons that I gave earlier, can 764 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:29,800 Okay. Any other questions or discussion? All right. Seeing none, please go ahead and vote again. 765 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,300 Huntley? 766 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,040 Epstein? 767 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,480 Consbrook? 768 00:54:37,060 --> 00:54:37,520 Yes. 769 00:54:38,340 --> 00:54:38,740 Ealy? 770 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:39,520 Yes. 771 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:40,860 Huffaker? 772 00:54:41,220 --> 00:54:41,440 Yes. 773 00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:42,740 Rowan? 774 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:43,320 No. 775 00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:45,580 Hartman? 776 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:46,240 Yes. 777 00:54:47,540 --> 00:54:47,980 Fong? 778 00:54:48,260 --> 00:54:48,700 Yes. 779 00:54:49,220 --> 00:54:49,440 Okay. 780 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:57,860 All right. So the motion passes five to one with one abstention on second reading. So 781 00:54:57,860 --> 00:55:03,380 then we will have our third and final reading at our next meeting. We're squared away. All 782 00:55:03,380 --> 00:55:08,480 right. Thank you. All right. We will move on to there are no final faster ordinances. 783 00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:12,660 We do have some appointments to make item a appointments to boards and commissions. 784 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,400 Ann Hinton is a reappointment to the zoning board of adjustment. We require a planning 785 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,780 commissioner, one planning commissioner to serve on the Zoning Board of Adjustment, and 786 00:55:22,780 --> 00:55:29,160 I believe Ann is that member that serves on both boards per code. And then we also have 787 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,240 an appointment through the library board, Caroline Kemp, and I'd just like to thank 788 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,420 Ann and Caroline for their willingness to step forward and serve on these volunteer 789 00:55:35,420 --> 00:55:38,860 boards. So that being said, I'd accept a motion and a second. 790 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,140 Motion to approve the appointments as presented. 791 00:55:41,140 --> 00:55:48,300 Motion by Fong, second by Ely. Any questions or discussion? All right, please go and vote. 792 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,100 Fong? Yes. 793 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,680 Hartman? Yes. 794 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,780 Rowan? Yes. 795 00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:56,700 Huffaker? Yes. 796 00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:58,140 Ely? Yes. 797 00:55:58,820 --> 00:55:59,820 Consbrook? Yes. 798 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,200 Huntley? Yes. 799 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:07,380 All right, the motion passes seven to zero. And thanks to all of our board members that continue to serve. 800 00:56:07,380 --> 00:56:15,060 And if you're interested in serving on a board, please go on to our website and go ahead and fill out an application. 801 00:56:15,580 --> 00:56:17,980 Moving on, there's no miscellaneous in other business. 802 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,740 We don't have a reason to go into closed sessions. 803 00:56:19,940 --> 00:56:21,560 I'd accept a motion and a second to adjourn. 804 00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:23,620 Second done. 805 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,740 Motion by Huntley. 806 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:25,520 Second by Fong. 807 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,340 Please go ahead and vote. 808 00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:29,390 Huntley? 809 00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:29,850 Yes. 810 00:56:30,650 --> 00:56:31,130 Hansbrook? 811 00:56:31,490 --> 00:56:31,690 Yes. 812 00:56:32,330 --> 00:56:32,710 Ely? 813 00:56:33,150 --> 00:56:33,390 Yes. 814 00:56:33,930 --> 00:56:34,370 Huffaker? 815 00:56:34,790 --> 00:56:35,190 Yes. 816 00:56:35,850 --> 00:56:36,310 Rowan? 817 00:56:36,770 --> 00:56:37,250 Yes. 818 00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:47,870 All right, the motion passes 7 to 0. We are adjourned at 626 p.m.