1 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:08,160 Welcome everybody to the workshop meeting for the Hatfield Township Board 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:15,759 of Commissioners. Today is September 9th, 2026 and we are starting at 7:05 3 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:17,359 p.m. Call to order and roll call please. >> President Lstraco 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,760 » here. >> Vice President Partha here. 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,279 » Commissioner Andress >> here. 6 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:23,600 » Commissioner Delesio >> here. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,600 » Commissioner Zipfell >> here 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,359 » is here. >> I heard it. 9 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:34,480 » In case you didn't hear just Okay. Um, for the pledge of allegiance, would 10 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:37,960 Chief be interested in starting us off? >> Yes. Okay. 11 00:00:38,559 --> 00:00:45,840 » To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:51,399 stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for 13 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:51,399 all. 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:00,800 » Okay. Before we approve the agenda, I just want to announce we had an 15 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:05,840 executive session before this meeting and we discussed contract negotiations 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:10,320 and also real estate. Do I have um for approval of an agenda? 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,760 Do I have a motion to approve the agenda? 18 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:14,320 » So move. >> Moved by Vice President Partha. 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,439 » Second. >> Second by Commissioner Delesio. All in 20 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:19,200 favor, please say I. >> I. 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:26,640 » I. I. >> Okay. Thank you. Any opposed? Okay. 22 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:31,360 First, we next have citizens comments on agenda items only. If you'd like to have 23 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:35,600 a cit give a comment on an agenda item, please come to the mic and give your 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:39,360 name and address. All right, seeing none, we will move to 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:44,000 the consent items. And I will need a motion to enter into 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:50,799 the record the following. the North Pen Water Authority meeting minutes from 27 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:55,040 July 20 uh July 28th and also the VMSC monthly report and that's from August. 28 00:01:53,119 --> 00:01:56,479 Do I have a motion to enter these into the record? 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,719 » So moved. >> Motion by Commissioner Delesio. 30 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:02,079 » Second. >> Seconded by Vice President Partha. All 31 00:02:00,479 --> 00:02:04,880 in favor, please say I. >> I. 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:10,200 » I. Okay, it has passed. Thank you. 33 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:16,160 We're going to move into committee reports for planning and zoning 34 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,440 committee. I welcome Commissioner Glesio. 35 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:24,480 » Thank you, President Lstaka. I'm actually then going to pitch to to 36 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Scott, our assistant manager. He chairs uh the planning commission and you'll do 37 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:33,840 the tea up for our presentation from Sheets today. So, thank you all for 38 00:02:30,959 --> 00:02:36,800 coming in to talk to us. And Scott, over to you. 39 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:40,480 » Thank you, Commissioner Delesio. Just as a quick background on the timeline, 40 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:46,480 sheets came in under a professional services agreement in 2024 for this 41 00:02:44,239 --> 00:02:52,800 official land development submitted in 2025. And at our last August meeting for 42 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:58,000 the planning commission, they were had a recommendation for approval. This 43 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:03,280 proposal includes a construction of a new 6,139 44 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:09,040 square foot convenience store including fueling stations and 49 parking spaces. 45 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:16,480 It is located in the commercial zoning district. It's worth noting this 46 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:20,640 proposal reduces impervious coverage and with the current site conditions while 47 00:03:18,319 --> 00:03:25,519 increasing storm water facilities management. I'll turn it over to the 48 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:30,319 Sheets team with their traffic engineer, civil engineer, and sheets reps. 49 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,319 » Good evening. Should I go? >> Yes, please. Y 50 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:37,760 » nice job, Scott. >> Good evening. My name is uh Sean Duffy, 51 00:03:36,239 --> 00:03:41,840 attorney with Obermyer here on behalf of the applicant. Um, 52 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:45,920 and we have the whole development team here. Steve McBrery who's with Lancor 53 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:51,280 the project engineer, Eric Mounts with TB TPD the traffic engineer, Ryan 54 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,560 Anthony with Sheets, and then Brett who's with uh Quattro who's the 55 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,480 applicant who's going to be the developer of the property. Um I don't 56 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:02,239 know if we have the plan that we can put up. 57 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:08,319 Perfect. So just to orient everybody, this is located at 1100 Bethlehem Pike. 58 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:12,159 Um it's roughly a 4.2 acre property. Everybody's likely familiar with the 59 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:17,919 property. It's the Zodo's restaurant. Um, the diner will be uh demoed uh in in 60 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:23,680 its place. We're redeveloping the property with a six 6139 square ft uh 61 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:28,400 convenience store. Uh we'll have gasoline pumps, 49 parking spaces. 62 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:35,360 There's going to be two points of access. One point of access from um the 63 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:40,639 signal signalized intersection at Hill Hilltown Pike and Bethlehem Pike and 64 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:45,120 then Old Bethlehem Pike right off of here. Uh and to come out of here, this 65 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:50,000 will be a no left turn. So, you'll have to make a right coming out onto Old 66 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:52,960 Bethlehem Pike. Um in addition, there's going to be some right-of-way 67 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:57,840 improvements. We were able to work with adjacent property owners to obtain 68 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:03,120 additional right of way for the properties at 1150 Bethlehem Pike and 69 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:09,120 1202 Bethlehem Pike. And we're installing a right turn lane um right in 70 00:05:07,039 --> 00:05:12,960 there that will go onto the property's location. As already stated, there'll be 71 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:17,199 storm water management infrastructure. It's going to be a reduction in 72 00:05:14,479 --> 00:05:23,199 impervious coverage. Also a part of the plan um which uh I think we submitted 73 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:29,600 recently about a month and a half ago is a uh lot line adjustment. So in 74 00:05:27,039 --> 00:05:33,360 consideration of the additional right ofway taking from the neighboring 75 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:38,080 property owner um we're giving approximately I think it's about 6,000 76 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:44,639 square ft of land over to him over in the back corner area. Uh we're in 77 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:48,479 receipt of all township review letters. We're happy to answer any questions that 78 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:53,440 you might have as it relates to waiverss or anything else as it relates to 79 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:58,880 traffic of that nature. >> How about you said gas pumps? Is there 80 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:03,520 EVs charging stations there too? >> Um 81 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:06,880 » yeah, just curious. >> There's not. Okay. 82 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,400 » Could you come to the mic? >> Please go to the mic. We do record these 83 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:14,639 and residents do watch them, believe it or not. 84 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:18,319 So there there is not currently uh Steve Mcroy with Lancor civil engineer. There 85 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:21,600 is not currently any EV charging stations. What Sheets likes to do is go 86 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:26,639 build out their sites and kind of see what the uh the demand is for EV 87 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:30,319 stations on on site. There is adequate parking if they do decide that there's 88 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,840 enough demand for EV parking spaces that they could retrofit and provide EV 89 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:38,080 parking spaces in the future. >> You going to lay the power down and not 90 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:42,160 connect with them or have the >> So all of that's aftermarket. So, as of 91 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,960 right now, there's nothing anticipated for the site. Um, so there hasn't been a 92 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:51,039 lot of thought of what would go on site in the event that the demand is there. 93 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:55,039 » Okay. Thank you. And um, how do you how are you uh decreasing impervious cover? 94 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:58,400 Are you doing that by acquiring more space? 95 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,960 » No, we're removing a lot of asphalt from the site. So, if you're familiar with 96 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,199 the site and you go around back, there's a sea of parking back there. 97 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,360 » Okay. >> Um, if you go back to our rendering real 98 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:11,440 quick. >> Yep. 99 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,080 So, I'm going to call it plan left. So, you see that darker green area there? 100 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:17,199 Yeah. >> Yeah. You can see kind of in the 101 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,919 background there's cars that are in that area. So, there's a significant amount 102 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:24,400 of impervious coverage that's being removed from that area. So, rough 103 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,360 numbers is probably about 40,000 square feet, close to an acre of impervious 104 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:29,919 coverage that we're removing from the site through the redevelopment of the 105 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:33,160 property. >> Thank you. 106 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,280 » I have a question. I I want to make sure I understand. So, there's a light up 107 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:43,440 where Zodto's is right now at Hilltown Pike. People can make left and rights in 108 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:47,840 and out from that light. Correct. You had mentioned another access point where 109 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:52,400 if you didn't want to come to that light, people could leave the facility 110 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,840 and make a right-hand turn onto 309 South. That's correct. 111 00:07:53,840 --> 00:08:00,080 » So, there's two access points. One's the exist They're both existing access 112 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,120 points. One's the main access, which you can see, 113 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:08,639 » Steve, that microphone comes out if you want to grab it. Thank you. Yeah. 114 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:12,000 So the two access points are existing access points. The one is the main 115 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:16,000 access point where you can see all the the proposed striping that comes out to 116 00:08:13,919 --> 00:08:19,120 the signalized intersection. The other access point actually goes to 117 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:25,199 » sorry >> old Bethlehem Pike which is 118 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:29,039 right there. So the two existing accessways are staying as part of the 119 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:34,159 development. They're just being improved for the new use. 120 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:40,159 » So you'd be coming up 309 north. You would get to the light with County Line 121 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:46,000 Road and Line Lexington and you could come a back way in and out of your 122 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:50,800 facility. Is that correct? I see Brian shaking his head. Okay. So, I do 123 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:58,480 understand any improvements on 309 North at that light with County Line Road 124 00:08:54,959 --> 00:09:02,880 um to handle maybe additional access or or traffic of of folks who 125 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:06,959 would like to use that alternative way to get in. 126 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:10,640 » Yeah. Good evening. Eric Mounts with TPD uh traffic consultant for the project. 127 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,920 So, yes, to your to answer your question, we are proposing improvements 128 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:18,399 through coordination with uh the township's traffic engineer. Um, so 129 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,959 right now as you are traveling north on Route 309, if you're looking to make a 130 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:30,040 lefthand turn movement to um, Line Lexington Road, there's no 131 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:30,040 » Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. 132 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:38,959 » Yes. So, right now there's no turning arrow to make that left. So, what we are 133 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:44,000 proposing >> Sorry the video keeps going out for you. 134 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:50,000 » All good. So, as you are traveling northbound and get to Line Lexington 135 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:54,640 Road, this left turn lane, we are adding an arrow um for left-hand turn movement. 136 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:59,279 So, you'll get an arrow to be able to turn left onto Line Lexington. You will 137 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:02,959 make a right-hand turn onto Old Bethlehem Pike and you can enter the 138 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:07,040 site at this location. And then alternatively, if you choose not to to 139 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:11,040 come into the site that way, you do have the ability to continue north on Old 140 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:15,760 Bethlehem Pike to the signalized access opposite Hilltown. And we're adding a 141 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:20,160 turn lane arrow there as well. So, you have two options for entering left-hand 142 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:25,680 turns off of Route 309. >> Does is that a pendot uh contingent on 143 00:10:22,959 --> 00:10:29,519 pendot approved in the the turn arrows or you've already secured that? 144 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:34,160 » So, it is contingent on Pendot's approval. We most recently made our 145 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:37,519 third submission to PennDOT for our PENDOT HOP permit for the roadway 146 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:42,160 improvements and traffic signal improvements. Um based on that the prior 147 00:10:40,399 --> 00:10:46,399 submission, Pendot did not have any comments remaining on the actual 148 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,399 functionality of the traffic signals and the improvements. It was um improved in 149 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:54,240 conjunction with the traffic study that was done for the site. So at this point, 150 00:10:52,480 --> 00:11:00,480 what I described are the improvements that will ultimately be implemented. 151 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:03,800 » Okay. Thank you. Yep. Any other questions? 152 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Do you have any other information for us? 153 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:17,600 » No, I think that's it. Unless there's any additional questions. 154 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:23,200 » Just just to confirm, all the township review letters are will comply. 155 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:26,240 » Correct. Okay. >> Well, thank you very much for coming and 156 00:11:24,959 --> 00:11:29,360 for bringing your team. >> Waivers. Waivers. Thank you very much. 157 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,440 Have a good evening. >> Wait, 158 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,120 were there waver? >> I just want to confirm there are waivers 159 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,600 requested, right? So, it's will comply but for the waivers. 160 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:44,079 » Correct. >> Okay. Do we have any waivers that need 161 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:47,279 discussion or are they all typical waivers, Brian? 162 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:53,040 » They're they're they are relatively typical. And I I say it that way because 163 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:58,959 there is an existing detention basin from way back when that's on the site. 164 00:11:55,839 --> 00:12:03,920 Um there's an existing basin and the discharge pipe for the basin already 165 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:09,120 connects via an easement into the township storm sewer system in the 166 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:14,240 neighborhood behind. So that's that's a a benefit to everyone that that's there. 167 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:21,279 There's no waiver for that. But because it's an existing basin, um there's a 168 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:26,800 waiver regarding freeboard um that they need and they let me just double check. 169 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:31,839 freeboard. Oh, and and the other thing is they're 170 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:37,440 going to be expanding the basin, but because of kind of limited elevation 171 00:12:34,959 --> 00:12:42,160 change, the the township ordinance requires a pipe coming into the basin to 172 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:46,399 be 6 in above the basin floor. They're kind of limited vertically to be able to 173 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,560 do that. That's another one of the waiverss, but that I think is tied 174 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:55,760 mostly to the fact that they're trying to maintain the existing outlet 175 00:12:53,200 --> 00:13:00,000 structure condition um because that pipe system is already there and there's no 176 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:04,320 real need to change it. Um the flows that leave the site will be reduced as 177 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:09,760 well. So um there the two waiverss for the 6 in 178 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:13,920 above the basin floor and for the freeboard are primarily because the 179 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:21,839 existing outlet structure is staying as is or in place uh and the basin burm is 180 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:27,040 staying as is uh as well as the the spillway location. Correct. 181 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:30,079 » Correct. So th those are we do often get those kind of waiverss but this is 182 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,760 different because of the fact that there's an existing basin there that 183 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:38,320 they're going to modify and enlarge but they're modifying at the UPS slope end 184 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:44,000 so we're getting a lot more volume in the basin uh by virtue of that um you 185 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:48,880 know another one grading within 5 ft of the property again that's condition not 186 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:53,040 condition it's circumstantial because of the work that they're doing to the north 187 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:57,600 where they're going to need to make some cuts of existing paving and it's going 188 00:13:55,680 --> 00:14:02,000 to be up, you know, pretty darn close to the property line itself. Normally, we'd 189 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,920 want somebody to stay 5t away so that if it was just earthwork, we're not 190 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,680 adversely impacting the adjacent property. In this case, they're not 191 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:13,440 going to in large part because there's paving right next door, so you don't 192 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:18,160 have to worry about the ground slope. Um, 193 00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:22,880 there are waiverss for cartway widening. Uh, and that is specifically for Old 194 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:28,639 Bethlehem Pike. Currently, Old Bethlehem Pike is 32 feet wide. The ordinance 195 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:34,560 requires 34. Uh, I had extensive conversations with Anton, the T township 196 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:39,040 traffic engineer, and requiring 1 ft of widening on a dead-end street is really 197 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:44,800 just not very practical. There's no benefit to it. Uh, so we don't have an 198 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:50,000 issue with that particular waiver. There's two waivers uh for two different 199 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:55,760 section of the ordinance for curb radi. Um we're okay with that as well. Um 200 00:14:52,959 --> 00:15:01,680 there's another waiver we often get is um requiring 15 feet uh separation 201 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:06,000 between a building and any parking area. Um we get that all the time. The fire 202 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:13,199 marshall generally has no problem with it. Um 203 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:19,279 and curbing. Oh, they're requesting a a waiver for curbing. Um, but the curbing 204 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,440 that they're requesting a waiver from is the curbing that's around the building. 205 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:27,760 And like most convenience stores, they want to pave, you know, and have things 206 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:32,240 right up to the sidewalk, the walkway around the building. So there's no 207 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:36,160 there's no curb around the building as you would normally have with like a a 208 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:43,199 commercial apartment building or or or or store of some sort. Um, there's that. 209 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:47,440 They will have ballards uh to protect vehicles from rolling into the building. 210 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Um and that's it. So >> no landscape waivers right 211 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,680 » there. There are none. >> There are no landscaping waivers. It's 212 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,399 kind of rare, but no no landscaping waiverss in this one. 213 00:15:54,959 --> 00:16:01,759 » Brian, can I ask you where you said there come in within 5 ft of another 214 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,240 property owner? Is that another commercial property or a residential 215 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,360 property? >> Uh commercial property. 216 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:12,560 » Can you explain on that? >> Sure. It would be the property to the 217 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:17,120 north. So where the main access comes in, there's paving that goes right up to 218 00:16:15,199 --> 00:16:21,199 the property line. So we're cutting back that pavement. It's on our property and 219 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,160 we're replacing that with vegetation. So that's one of the other areas on site 220 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:30,399 where we are removing some of the imperous coverage so we can 221 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,680 more make the site more compact is ultimately what it is and reduce the 222 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:36,959 impervious coverage. >> Okay. 223 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:42,320 » Thank you. So, thanks for asking the question. 224 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:45,519 » Um, item F here it talks about the uh road width and perhaps township might 225 00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:48,079 consider having overlay the existing cartway. 226 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,480 » Yeah, sorry. >> Is that so town is that that's township? 227 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,399 No, it's old Bethl Pike. Is that a a state local or what? 228 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,240 » Township. >> That's Township Road. 229 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:02,079 » Old Bethlehem Pike is Township. >> So, is there consideration? we asking, 230 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:06,240 requesting, are you doing? >> If you wish, we would typically ask the 231 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:10,319 board, but also see if public works feels like an overlay is necessary. 232 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,760 Sometimes if a project needs a lot of utility work and you're really going to 233 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:20,079 be busting up the road, then it's much more needed. Um, most of the utility 234 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:22,640 work is happening within the site. You're not running anything down old 235 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,319 Bethlehem Pike. >> We are not. No. So, there's there's no 236 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,440 real impact to the section of Bethlehem Pike once you get past our entrance. 237 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,320 Correct. >> So, 238 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,039 » so it's not under consideration. >> Can we can take a look at it, 239 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,559 » David? Take a look at it. >> We can take a look at it. 240 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,880 » Okay. Please. >> Sure. 241 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,880 » Thank you. >> So, between now and the next meeting, I 242 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:46,080 would draft a resolution, send it to the applicant, send it to the board for your 243 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,360 consideration if that's okay. 244 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:49,679 » Yep. >> Yep. Sure. 245 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:56,760 » Yep. Okay. >> Okay. 246 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,760 » Thank you so much. Thank you. 247 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Okay. So, we will move on to public works committee with Commissioner 248 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:10,559 Zipfell and I think maybe our township manager will be reading the report just 249 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:15,679 so it's >> Sure. I'll be uh happy to give the 250 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:19,440 report. Yep. Thanks, President Lraco. Um >> just a few updates from the public works 251 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:23,039 departments. Uh you you may have seen if you drove down Unionville Pike, the the 252 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,720 the pull barn has been installed that the uh we discussed here publicly a few 253 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:31,200 months ago. So, a nice nice addition to the public works garage providing 254 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:35,360 additional space to maintain township equipment. Wanted to thanks thank the 255 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:40,640 public works department for the installation of the plaque at Clemens 256 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:45,520 Park where we were able to recognize the Nolan family, the homestead that once 257 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:49,039 existed at that location and we had a really nice event a few Saturdays ago 258 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:54,160 with the commissioners and the Nolan family and guests um to celebrate uh the 259 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:58,000 unveiling of that. So, our public works team did a great job and we appreciate 260 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:03,760 the work they did there. Road paving program for 26 has been completed. We've 261 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:07,120 we've talked about this often. Um, and and we're finally at the point where as 262 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:11,520 of I think yesterday, even most of the striping has been completed as well. So, 263 00:19:09,919 --> 00:19:17,280 uh, hearing a lot of good feedback from our our residents in those areas. Um, 264 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:20,480 two new township um public works employees recently joined the team in 265 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:24,960 the last few months. They're both working on their CDLs um so they can 266 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:31,200 operate all of our vehicles in what we hope is a non snow winter, but prepare 267 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:35,520 for the worst. Um public works crews been out. Uh I think that if you drive 268 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:39,200 around the town, I I think our public spaces are looking great and we 269 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:43,600 appreciate the work they put into our parks and all the other open space that 270 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:47,280 we own and maintain. Uh and just lastly, just want to thank them as well with 271 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:52,640 their assistance for all of our parks and wreck events that we had throughout 272 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:55,679 the summer. Some very large uh the real diamond band. I know the commissioner 273 00:19:54,080 --> 00:20:00,480 was there. President Lraco introduced the band. We had 274 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,840 thousands people. I think that's fair. That's fair to to say. 275 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:09,280 » It was very well attended. >> Cars parked everywhere in the in the 276 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:12,720 park. um and our public works uh team was there to to help with traffic 277 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:16,880 cleanup and everything else. So, we're grateful for the work they do. That is 278 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:20,000 the report for tonight. >> Thank you for doing that. 279 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:24,400 » Here we go. >> You're very welcome. May I add just 280 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:29,919 something? Um, Steuart Road um, that I live on was one of the roads that was 281 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:35,039 paved this year. And we I just wanted to thank Aaron personally and the public 282 00:20:32,159 --> 00:20:39,520 works folks being responsive to some of the residents who asked to have some of 283 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:44,880 our d Stewart Drive means a drive is a wavy 284 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:49,679 road. And there were two sections where um we added striping to the road, a 285 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:55,200 middle double double yellow that wasn't there before to try to encourage people 286 00:20:52,159 --> 00:21:00,960 to not ride the middle um to be more responsive and be safe. Um and I thank 287 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:06,640 you for um recognizing some of the residents concerns there and being um 288 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:11,360 amanable to to making the change. and it's done and it looks wonderful and 289 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:16,400 I've already noticed people staying on their side of the road um you know 290 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:20,720 coming in. So I hopefully it makes it for a safer situation. There are 291 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:23,280 families with young kids at at some of those places. So thank you. 292 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,440 » I'm sure they're grateful. >> Thank you for facilitating and and 293 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:30,880 making that happen. Thank you. >> That's it. 294 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:35,919 » Okay. Thanks so much. Um so I'm going to go over the parks and wreck committee 295 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:41,760 report. Um, first I'm going to go over pickle ball lessons are starting and um, 296 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:46,320 pickle ball lessons will start uh will be Tuesday, September 15th if you would 297 00:21:44,159 --> 00:21:51,520 like to register. Also, Tuesday, September 22nd and Sunday, October 4th. 298 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:55,200 And you can check our website for details. Winter pickle ball, we're 299 00:21:53,760 --> 00:22:03,600 already talking about winter. Oh my gosh. New session begins soon, November 300 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:09,760 2nd till March 26, 2027. And that's Mondays through Fridays, 8 am to 2 pm at 301 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:15,520 um Chestnut Street um pick Pickle Ball Courts. We also have our fitness um 302 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:20,000 sessions. The fall yoga has sold out, but we still have fall Zumba Sundays at 303 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:26,240 9:00 a.m. Fall Remix Mondays at 7:00 p.m. And again, check our website to um 304 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:30,400 look for registration online for our seminars coming up. We have a Medicare 305 00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:35,600 seminar coming up next Thursday, September 17th. That's 6:30 p.m. here at 306 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:39,360 the township building and you can register for that and see more details 307 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,880 online. For events coming up, we want to thank 308 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:48,640 our parks and recck committee and our parks and recck staff for the parks and 309 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:53,120 rec celebration and concerts all summer and a movie in the park. Um so we that 310 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:57,440 was it was just a great summer and really great turnout. So, thank you 311 00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:03,679 everybody who came and thanks again to Ashley um for everything she does for 312 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:07,679 our parks and wreck um department. We have our Rocktober Fest coming up and so 313 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,960 please save the date for Saturday, October 3rd. That's 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 314 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:18,799 p.m. at School Road Park. Um please please know we will have live music and 315 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:24,799 that is um a very popular band AM radio food trucks vend vendors crafters family 316 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:30,880 games inflatables face painting balloon animals yard games a photo booth petting 317 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:37,200 zoo the foam party it's very popular fire trucks and more um so please look 318 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:41,280 um look for those um details on our Facebook page and at our 319 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:47,679 websitetoberfest als Also, we have a 5K that same day and 320 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:54,559 that will be they're calling it the 2026 Donut Dash. Um, and that will be in the 321 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:59,840 morning um at the um School Road Park trails. The the race begins at the 322 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:05,200 Township Administration building here at our township and ends at School Road 323 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:10,480 Park and our October Fest um festival will start after that and again that's 324 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:15,840 October 3rd. So runtheday.com is where you can register. And I will say the 325 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:20,159 last 5K was excellent. Uh my son ran his first 5K so he'll be signing up for this 326 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:26,559 again. So I want to thank Run the Day for that. Um our other event coming up 327 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:32,159 in October, we have the mini monster and that's Friday, October 16th, 6:00 p.m. 328 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:36,880 to 8:00 p.m. School Road Park again. And we'll have snacks, refreshments, games, 329 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:42,400 music, a pumpkin patch, pumpkin decorating, balloons, face painting, a 330 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:46,640 haunted maze, mini monster truck racing, trick-or-treating, of course, and local 331 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:51,279 business and organizations will be on hand. Um, so wear your favorite 332 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Halloween costume. And that concludes my report. 333 00:24:53,200 --> 00:25:00,159 Okay, we're going to move on to the public 334 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:04,320 safety committee with sorry, public safety committee with Vice President 335 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Partha. >> Thank you, President Lstgo. 336 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:13,440 » Mhm. >> Uh in August 2026, the Hatfield Police 337 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:20,640 Department responded uh to a total of 2600 calls for service. The department 338 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:26,000 handled a total of 29 part one crimes and total of 20 part two crimes. Theft 339 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:30,240 reports increased over the last year uh including theft from motor vehicle 340 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:35,600 pattern that resulted in an arrest and thank you chief 341 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:40,720 and uh one of our neighbors also impacted on this and uh thank you chief 342 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:45,440 for that. Um traffic safety efforts remain a priority. Uh the department uh 343 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:50,320 investigated a total of 48 vehicle crashes. One of these incidents 16 were 344 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:58,240 reportable crash and officer conducted 252 traffic stops and 146 enforcement 345 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:03,039 details resulting in 169 warnings and 118 summons issued. In addition to 346 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:08,240 routine traffic enforcement activities, the department conducted Pandora 347 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:14,320 aggressive driver details on August 3rd, 13 and 15 and the DUI enforcement on 348 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:19,120 August 7. Reinforce roadway safety initiatives and encouraging compliance 349 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:23,520 with traffic laws. Uh community engage remain a key focus 350 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:27,200 throughout the August. Officer conducted 727 351 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:30,400 community engagement patrol activities in addition to routine engagement 352 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,400 effort. Hatfield Police Department participated in several community 353 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:40,480 community events including Hatfield Jam Morid family festival. Uh black reserve 354 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:46,640 booktore back to school event parks and wreck monthly celebration dash and 355 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:53,039 splash 5K and Calvary Chapel car shows uh friendship house early day and coffee 356 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:55,919 uh coffee with a cop at lows. This effort reflect the Hatfield Police 357 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,440 Department ongoing commitment to reducing crime, enhancing traffic 358 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:03,760 safety, fostering positive community relationship and maintain a visible and 359 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:08,080 proactive presence throughout the community. At our the board of 360 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:11,520 commissioner meetings, uh seven Hatfield Township Police Officer will be 361 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,520 recognized by the board and police department leadership for their heroic 362 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,120 action during an extremely serious incident last year. 363 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,279 uh discourage the professionalism and commitment to protecting others under 364 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:27,919 externally difficult circumstance amplifying the very best of public 365 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:32,799 service. We we invite the community to join us as we recognize these officers 366 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:38,559 and thank them for their exceptional service to Hatfield Township. And thank 367 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:44,720 you J. And we have a uh motion for stop sign installation at the fairgrounds and 368 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:49,520 eloy uh and fiskar audience 715 and motion for approval. 369 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,480 » So moved. >> I'll second. I know we talked about that 370 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,919 last last meeting. >> Okay. Yeah. And it is 371 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,039 » discussion. >> Would you would you like a quick 372 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,720 refresher? Yeah, sure. Commissioners, just to get us all back on the same 373 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,880 page. U Thank you, Vice President Bartha. Uh we talked about this last 374 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:10,640 meeting. Uh we we've heard from uh parents throughout the years uh concerns 375 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:15,919 students walking from these neighborhoods to Penfield Middle School 376 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:20,320 uh over here. Uh thanks to our traffic engineer and our police department, they 377 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:26,000 re-evaluated the intersection and recommended that stop signs be installed 378 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:31,279 at the intersection of Fairgrounds and Elroy/Fisher. 379 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:35,360 So, these stop signs you see here. I believe the posts are in and there may 380 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:39,919 even be the sign and it won't be in effect until tomorrow. I'm not sure if 381 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:44,320 they bagged it, but tomorrow uh chief will have a police presence there in the 382 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:50,080 morning just to alert motorists of the new stop sign uh to make sure that 383 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:55,760 everyone's safe. But we genuinely hope that this provides a much safer crossing 384 00:28:52,640 --> 00:29:00,080 for the kids walking to school and creates a solution to what we've seen as 385 00:28:57,919 --> 00:29:04,640 a problem for a little bit of time. So, if the board would consider uh approving 386 00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:09,200 this ordinance and then we can uh tomorrow morning go live with the stop 387 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:12,480 signs and and hopefully a better outcome in this area. So, thank you 388 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,799 commissioners for supporting this project. Chief, do you put a a light on 389 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:19,520 top of these whenever you install, you know, because we know fairgrounds is a 390 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:23,200 bit um >> busy road. I'm 391 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,760 » saying it politely. Yeah, it's a busy road. And do you know, we don't want 392 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:31,120 somebody to just expect them to stop and and cross. Do you are there little 393 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,000 lights for a little while that >> flashers out temporarily and then they 394 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:38,640 they remove them because after a while the flashers become innocuous, so they 395 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:41,440 put them out for a brief period of time. >> Okay. 396 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,640 » Yeah. I I believe in addition there's approach signs especially for up the 397 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,919 hill because the sighteline's not great. So there'll be signs if not out 398 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,200 tomorrow. I know we're having some issues with the vendor providing the 399 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:55,039 signs. There'll be approach signs warning the motorist stop sign ahead. So 400 00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:00,720 hopefully that's out tomorrow but if not very shortly after. 401 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,520 » Okay. Thank you. So we we had a >> motion to approve and we had a seconder. 402 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,760 » Yes. >> Um 403 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:11,279 » so all in favor please say I. >> I. 404 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:15,919 » Okay. It has passed. Thank you. >> And and uh Tom and myself will be 405 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:19,600 personally be most of the benefit from this because we leave that neighborhood. 406 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,880 Thank you. >> Chief, could you keep an eye on Vice 407 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,159 President Bartha and that stop sign? We make sure. 408 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:28,840 » Two red cars. >> He was actually deputized for tomorrow. 409 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,840 So, 410 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:35,840 » yes. Thank you, Chief. Thanks, everybody. 411 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,440 » And this one, we're good. >> Yeah, we good. We did that. 412 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:45,360 » Okay. All right, we're going to move on to the finance committee report. 413 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:52,399 Through the end of August, the general fund revenues totaled approximately 9.2 414 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:58,720 million compared with a total two 2026 budget of 14.5 million. Overall revenues 415 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:03,840 are at approximately 63% of budget through the first eight months of the 416 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:08,480 year. Tax revenues continue to represent the largest source of general fund 417 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,880 revenue with approximately 7.6 6 million collected through August. The current 418 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:18,080 year real estate tax collections are particularly strong with approximately 419 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:23,360 3.79 million collected against a budget of just under $4 million. 420 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:27,360 Earned income tax and real estate transfer tax revenues will continue to 421 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:32,240 be received throughout the remainder of the year. General fund expenditures 422 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:39,279 through August totaled approximately 10.1 million or about 70% of the 14.3 423 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:45,120 million annual budget. Public safety expenditures total approximately 3.9 424 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:49,840 million. Public works expenditures are approximately 1 million and general 425 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:55,039 government expend expenditures are approximately 1.7 million through 426 00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:59,919 August. The general fund is currently showing year-to-ate deficit a 427 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:04,240 year-to-ate deficit of approximately $860,000. 428 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:09,039 This is largely a reflection of the timing of revenues and expenditures 429 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:14,559 during the year as several significant expenditures have already been recorded 430 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:19,679 while additional budgeted revenues will continue to be received during the 431 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:23,760 remaining four months of 2026. The township's adopted budget 432 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:29,320 anticipates finishing the year with general fund surplus of approximately 433 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,320 $25,000. 434 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:35,840 Overall, staff continues to closely monitor the general fund revenues and 435 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:42,080 expenditures as we enter the final four months of the year and we continue to 436 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:48,240 have preparation for the 2027 budget. And that is the end of my report. 437 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:52,159 Um, so we will move on to township staff reports and the manager. 438 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:55,840 » Thank you, President Lraco. I just have three items to go over with the 439 00:32:54,159 --> 00:33:01,279 commissioners tonight. The first one, it's September, so every year uh in 440 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:06,799 September, the board has to approve the township's pension obligations for the 441 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:12,159 following year. Um the the again this this is a what they call an MMO, a 442 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:17,039 minimum municipal obligation. So, uh, a town, um, we we have an actuary that 443 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:24,399 does an analysis that provides what is necessary to fund the pension plans. 444 00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:28,640 Just as a, uh, big picture, um, uh, a framework so everyone understands that 445 00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:33,840 the township has, uh, police employees that are on a a defined benefit plan as 446 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:38,480 required by state law. Uh, we have employees also in other departments on a 447 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:44,240 defined benefit plan. All employees hired after January 1, 2013 are on a 448 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:51,039 defined contribution plan, which is more like a 401k. Uh it's a 401A in 449 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:56,880 government world, 403b in teacher world. So the obligation for the township um 450 00:33:53,679 --> 00:34:01,360 and in our top three expense lines that we're going to review closer in the next 451 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:05,840 few months when we look at our budget is personnel, salary, healthcare, and our 452 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:10,159 pension obligations. So this number really uh has a lot of impact on what 453 00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:16,879 the other things we can do throughout the township. So in 2027 our uh actuary 454 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:23,040 uh is saying that our minimum obligation is one just shy of $1.1 million. So it's 455 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:28,159 this one number over here to the right which is higher than the past several 456 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:34,720 years but you see historically we are used to numbers like this that we've 457 00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:42,639 seen in 21 20 and 19. The reason for this decrease in 22, 23, 24 is our 458 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:46,480 pension obligations essentially um we go as the market goes. When the market does 459 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,800 well, our obligation decreases. When the market does not perform well, our 460 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:57,359 obligation increases. So, it's really just an an inverse of this graphic, 461 00:34:54,159 --> 00:35:04,240 which shows our returns of our pension funds over the years. You see, in 2022, 462 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:11,280 it was a really bad year. So as those losses uh are realized, our 463 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:15,280 contributions then increase. So in front of the board will be a resolution in two 464 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,040 weeks just memorializing these contributions. It's our first formal 465 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:23,119 step of our budget that we do every year. You'll see that number then in our 466 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:28,800 budget when we sit together uh at some point later this month or early October. 467 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:33,920 Um, and it's it's something that is uh that we have to do uh to support our 468 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:38,480 employees. And worth noting that as of last year, the police pension was funded 469 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:43,760 just shy of 90% as well as the non-uniform 90%. So considered a very 470 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:49,680 healthy uh pension plan. Uh thanks to our advisers at at Unvest who who have 471 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:53,040 done a great job um realizing some of those returns. So that's that's one 472 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,960 item. We'll see that in resolution form in two 473 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:01,280 weeks. The other two items wanted to remind everyone and promote our upcoming 474 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:06,079 town hall meetings in this room for our open space referendum that will appear 475 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:11,520 on the ballot in November or if you're uh sending in through um mail-ins will 476 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:17,200 be much sooner than that. September 16th at 7:00 p.m. in this room, September 477 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:21,920 30th at 2 p.m. and 700 p.m. both options. will continue to promote these 478 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:25,599 events on our social media platforms and please come out if you have any 479 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:29,599 questions about what the referendum is. Uh we'll be happy to answer questions 480 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:35,280 and discuss it further during those uh town hall meetings. And lastly, uh the 481 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:40,560 continuation of the PY conditional use hearing will not be during one of our 482 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:44,960 meetings like they have been recently. Um instead, there is a separate night 483 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:48,880 for that this month. It is the 29th of September. I know a few in this room 484 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:54,480 will be there, so keep that on your calendar. The 29th at 700 p.m. will be a 485 00:36:51,839 --> 00:37:00,160 continuation, our sixth continuation, 7th, we lost count of the conditional 486 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:05,440 use hearing in this room. Um, that is all I have. Commissioners, thank you for 487 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:10,400 your time tonight. >> Aaron, I think we've got the 15th, too. 488 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,960 » Oh, okay. Thank you. Yes. And there is one other town hall, our W four town 489 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:20,560 hall meeting for Commissioner Zipfell on the 15th at 7 o'clock in this room as 490 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:25,119 well, which is next week. >> Okay, thank you very much. We're going 491 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:28,960 to move on to solicitor's report. >> All is well. 492 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:32,800 » Okay, thank you very much. And next we will have citizens comments. If you have 493 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:39,400 a citizen's comment, you would like to come to the podium up here and state 494 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,400 your name and address for us. 495 00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:44,119 Um, I did. Oh, go ahead. You 496 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:57,920 » Sandra Levine, 750 Herford Drive, Ward 4. Um, I live very close to the end of 497 00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:03,119 Herford Drive that intersects at Elroy where the school crossing is and there 498 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:08,800 are several things. Um, I know that Elroy Road, I've been told, is a state 499 00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:14,800 road. I did call PennDOT. There is a pothole where the children just to the 500 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:20,880 side of where the children have the curb cut to cross from the school over to the 501 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:27,760 other side of Elroy and the potholes getting a little deeper and wider. It's 502 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:32,240 been there all summer. I turn from my home left and I got to be careful. I 503 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:38,640 don't I don't want to hit the pothole. Um I I don't know if the township can do 504 00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:44,960 anything to ask Pendot to take a look at this. It's been there all summer and the 505 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:49,839 um the yellow I call them posts, rods, whatever that are at the crosswalk for 506 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:56,079 the children at at least. Could you take down the one that's broken and sticking 507 00:38:52,480 --> 00:39:01,760 out? Um it it's been that way again all summer and I think it's a township 508 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:06,880 responsibility. I'm not sure, but it's there for the children's protection and 509 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:11,839 the one just sticks out and a car could hit it if it goes a little bit close to 510 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:18,160 the island. Um, so there there are two concerns that I have for that particular 511 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:26,240 intersection. I do have a question. Is there anything in the township code or 512 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:35,760 whatever for an intersection that my dead end again? Um, when I want to pull 513 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:42,480 out onto Elroy from Herford, the property on the right, I I'm not 514 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:47,920 upset at my neighbor, but a fence went up many years ago and it made it harder 515 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:53,359 to see when you had to go out into the intersection. Then, um, some kind of 516 00:39:50,960 --> 00:40:00,880 trees or bushes or whatever were added. It's harder all the time to see oncoming 517 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,480 traffic from the right. I got to make sure there's nothing 518 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:08,480 coming here and then go a little bit further into the road to make to see 519 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:13,359 what's coming here to know whether I can proceed or not. And I just didn't know 520 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:19,119 if there was any kind of a a regulation about how much visibility you need at an 521 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:22,880 intersection. So, I'm just concerned about safety. 522 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,720 » Okay. Thank you. Sure. Thank you very much. 523 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:29,880 » We we will look into all three of those items. Thank you for your feedback. 524 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,880 » Thank you very much. 525 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:40,240 » Okay. Any other citizens comments? I just have one. Um a couple weekends ago 526 00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:44,880 there was an event at the mosque um on Cowpath Road um where Vice President 527 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:49,520 Partha is I guess you're one of the brothers there. Is that correct? Is that 528 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:54,079 what you call? You're one of the leaders of the mosque. and he's of course a 529 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:57,920 member of the mosque as well. Um, and so they had a beautiful event. It was 530 00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:02,319 during the day on a Saturday and we did post some pictures from that event on 531 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,839 our Facebook page here, the township fa Facebook page. And there were some 532 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:10,640 comments that were, you know, kind of ugly and I'm not saying it was anybody 533 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:15,599 in here or anybody watching. Some people of course might not even live here and 534 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:20,319 they made some really ugly comments. Um, and with that, I just want to thank Vice 535 00:41:17,359 --> 00:41:25,680 President Partha because he does respond to some of that engagement. And the way 536 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:30,160 he responds is he models goodwill, gratitude, and positivity. 537 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:33,520 um anytime he's engaging with the community and I just want to thank you 538 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:38,960 for that because hopefully that goes a long way because instead of fighting 539 00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:44,079 back and forth um you if you read what he writes it's it just kind of makes you 540 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:50,640 feel like okay I don't have to be ugly and write nasty things. I can think 541 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:56,079 about being positive and engaging in in a positive um and friendly manner. So I 542 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,000 just wanted to bring that up and so thank you. 543 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,079 » Thank you. think your president has check on 544 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:05,839 » um and I know um Commissioner Zipfell also wanted to make comments about the 545 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,920 event and how wonderful it was and some of the ugliness as well. So I think he's 546 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:14,240 going to do that at our next um meeting. So because he's in the car right now. 547 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:20,319 » Is that correct? I am commissioners fell. I am going to share those thoughts 548 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:26,400 in our next meeting and I appreciate you know Vice President Partha's uh 549 00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:31,920 graciousness and everyone at the M mosque's graciousness at our event and 550 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:38,800 so yeah I would definitely look forward to uh sharing my uh thanks to him and 551 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,680 then also addressing some of the awful comments that were made on Facebook. 552 00:42:40,319 --> 00:42:44,960 I'll do that in person at the next meeting. Thank you. 553 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:49,280 » Okay. Thank you. Uh thank you. Thank you. Thank you Tom. I just know um I'll 554 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,920 also make a comment maybe next meeting but I just want to share with you. So we 555 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:58,160 have very misconception about the each community. So I think the all the 556 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:02,800 community event uh that is one of the opportunity to learn from each other and 557 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:09,200 uh Tom was the very first time he visited the mosque and uh I'm very happy 558 00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:14,960 uh uh to he was there and of course our chief was there Aron was there. Um so 559 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:19,680 yeah um we will hope to invite everyone for the community as well and not only 560 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:24,240 that we will I will request everyone to the community people like you know just 561 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:28,640 to uh go just go all the event the community have not only the different 562 00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:35,680 like temple have like diwali that is very good to learn the culture and also 563 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:42,560 Egyptian festival is coming and um same with like other gigory fist right so um 564 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:46,960 one of this event is coming So um I would request everyone to regardless of 565 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,240 faith, regardless of anyone to go the event, learn from each other, then we 566 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:54,160 will know and respect each other. Thank you. 567 00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:58,880 » Thank you so much. Okay, with that I will ask any other citizens comments. 568 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,640 We're good. Okay. Um a motion to adjurnn. 569 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:04,079 » So moved. >> All right. Motion by Commissioner 570 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,400 Delesio. >> Second. 571 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,200 » Second by Vice President Partha. All in favor, please say I. I. 572 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:14,599 » I. >> Okay. Thank you. 573 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,599 Thanks for coming out everybody.