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What's important? What's not important? So we bow with me. Creator who made us all some of them were in doubt about. We thank you for life itself, we thank you for the beauty of the earth, we thank you for the rain that falls. We thank you so much for the opportunity to serve this community, we pray this day to give us discernment and wisdom that we might rule rightly.

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favor of the people with Hayes County, the words of our mouths and the meditation of our hearts

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being separate with you, a Lord, our rock, and our Redeemer. Amen. Amen. Now, the splendid.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

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I want to make sure that we got individual with liberty and justice for all of us outside.

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I play at least the Texas.

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What I want to say about one and in this one.

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Please be seated. You want to please call a role.

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Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Joe. Mr. Conley.

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Mr. Mr. Wissley.

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Mr. Wissley.

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Mr. Jones, I'm going to ask you to do this, sir.

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Thank you.

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First, open it.

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Presentation to the Commission's Court about the Texas Brigades Program.

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You have the floor.

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Thank you, Judge.

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I appreciate the court.

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Today, we have, right, excuse me, Cooper Moore.

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He's a, this is his third.

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I think this is your third year to present to our court.

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Yes, sir.

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Were you in sixth grade the first year?

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Yes, sir.

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And he's still in sixth grade.

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But we have a lot of hard four years, there's a long four years

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for him, but he's a first-minute Hayes High School.

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He's a sophomore, he's just good.

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He's a sophomore, Hayes High School.

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He's also the great grandson of Judge Holt, who was

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our J.P. in Calvary years, and both of his other granddad

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circle city councils, and he's got a long line of service in

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the Hayes County.

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He's going to run and give you that time.

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He might have been filled with spite of one time.

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And sometimes he'd be a good county commissioner.

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I promise you that.

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Welcome.

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He'd be good at whatever he sets his mind to.

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Some Cooper.

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It's all yours.

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Thank you.

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So this year I attended another Texas Brigades this time over

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Wow.

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Waterfowl.

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So this is kind of the same.

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They go throughout the week.

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Anyone can count the season and apple.

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But no one can count the apples and the seeds.

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Once you get there, you're putting the flots, so you're not going through out there.

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It's kind of like a classroom, you don't go out through the whole camp in one big group,

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so everyone learns anything.

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You get into groups of five or six where you can go through the camp and everyone gets a chance

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to do it.

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You go through different rotations where you're all getting hands on with all the instructors.

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This camp is actually a very hands-on camp, you don't get left out.

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So it is a five day wildlife leadership camp. It's opened to students, 13 to 17. The cost is $500.

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But scholarships are available. I got a scholarship from the Hayes County soil and water conservation group.

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It's held in June, July, so it is kind of hot when you get there, but it's worth the heat going. It's so much fun.

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And then there's last year there are seven camps, now there's eight camps across the state of Texas.

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I've gone to the South Texas Buckskin and the Valley, the Rolling Plains and Coleman Bob

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Library Gate, and then the Water Farm Tennessee Colony, and next year I'm hoping to

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go either to the Galveston Coastal Brigade or the Bass Brigade.

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These are the, without these partners, the Brigades wouldn't be possible.

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So, plan ID, throughout the whole week, we learned different plans as I say every year.

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If I didn't have this camp, I would think grasses, grass, trees, or trees, or bushes,

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a bush, a bush.

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But at this camp, you thoroughly go through every single plant in your, as you can tell

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in the bottom picture there, in the water, they, you get, they provide you

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waiters and you get out in the water and you're, on, in the water, picking plants,

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you take them back to the lodge and you do quizzes over them all week.

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You get every day of our session, you go over all plants and everything you learn.

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a lot of stuff. So wildlife and journal. At these camps, as you can tell it's kind of the sun is starting to come up.

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They told me not to say this because it kind of detours people, but I'm not going to sugarcoat it. This camp, you go to bed at 1 o'clock in the morning and wake up at 4 o'clock.

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It is a very, as they say, it's not your usual summer camp. It's your, they don't have enough time in the whole five days if you go to bed at say nine o'clock and wake up, 10 o'clock. They don't have enough time in those hours to fit all the fun, learning stuff into it.

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And most of the mornings you do marching I'll explain later on in the presentation, but in this picture you can tell they're looking out all over the Trinity River.

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And one of the mornings you go out right before the sun comes up and you sit out there for a good hour and a half to hours just looking at all getting to enjoy what property you're on watching all the wildlife wake up all the morning birds and geese making all their sounds waking up moving.

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And it's just a beautiful sight to go sit out and look over the Trinity River.

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So firearms and shooting most people will say y'all are 13 to 17 year olds. Y'all shouldn't be shooting guns y'all are too young. That's dangerous.

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It is dangerous, but under circumstances, certain circumstances. At these camps, you have touch top notch shooting instructors, range masters.

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And if you mess up, they have a vehicle for you to go back to the lodge and you will not come back to the shivering

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They do not mess around because they don't want anyone getting hurt at these camps

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So we are shouldn't team building

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At this camp when I first out there I'm like, I don't know anyone

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I don't really trust y'all, but by the end of the week you made

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I made three of us, three of us friends at this camp

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I haven't seen them really because one lives in four words one lives down on the coast and one lives

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a little west of Houston and you build your leadership and everything you can tell the bottom

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picture where they're putting them through the rope. I kind of had to really trust my team

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because I'm a 240 pound kid and all the people on my team were about the size of my friend Jake here

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and I kind of was like I don't trust y'all lifting me five feet off the ground through all these

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ropes but you have to they got me through and you just have to trust and build a bond between

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all your teams.

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So try folks. I have sadly don't have mine. Mine has fallen apart from all

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the heat. I have to re-glue it, but try folks are just throughout the week you go over so many

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different things you can get a tri-fold and make over information. I did mine over the good

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the bag and ugly, over invasive species and plants, the best food that the ducks like to eat,

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the worst ones they don't want to eat, and the ones if they don't have the good ones then

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they'll kind of settle for it.

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So this is the part about marching I'll stop them up.

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Some people go, oh, that's discipline.

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Why do they make it a march?

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I look at it as something to build a team spirit.

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cancees in all together.

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So it's kind of a team building thing.

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But then also it's the first thing you do when you wake up.

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So it's a kind of way for you to get out there,

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start screaming, yelling, and waking up in the morning.

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So you're ready to face today.

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So public speaking, I actually,

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I wouldn't be up here if it wasn't for this public speak. I used to be so nervous to get up in front of crowds. I would

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probably be standing over in the corner or something, you know, this is the Texas Regate.

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But at these camps they bring out news reporters and everything and you do, as you can tell they're doing mock interviews.

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We actually did a mock interview that they actually turned in and published through a newspaper and it's actually out there.

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you all want to look at it to text us all outdoors.com and you can just go to that newspaper

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and there's a video over the whole camp and I'm actually in it giving us speech.

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So this is the big brigades motto, as I told you earlier, it's a very hands-on camp.

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Tell me how to get it, show me how to remember and follow me on your stand.

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That's basically saying, they don't just tell you and they don't just show you.

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They will involve you, you get very hands-on, though the instructors kind of step back and

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say, I need that plant pick to go grab it for me.

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They don't really do much. You're all hands-in.

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So critical thinking.

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As you can tell right there, he has a two displayed on the floor.

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And then you can see all the different objects he has.

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And he tells us, I'm emptying my pockets.

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I'm displaying all these objects out.

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What number am I thinking?

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We set there for 35 minutes.

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Looking at the objects trying to think of a number,

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not knowing he's sitting there going like that.

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And he just explained, you always have to think outside the box and look, find out you're

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surroundings and I think one of us after 45 minutes finally saw he was holding the number

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two out.

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So hunting ethics. This, we unfortunately didn't get to do this part because the

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Gabe Morton was caught up in a case that he couldn't come out to. But all it is is,

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Basically showing us hunting ethics as in like, if you see a dove or something in a tree, don't shoot it. That's not fair chase. If you see a deer, bedded down, don't shoot it. Still not fair chase. You didn't give it a chance to run.

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I didn't know about that rule. There's a hug of you.

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They always tell us it's not against the law, but I just don't think it's really fair.

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And then kind of just friendly competition throughout the whole week, you're marching, shooting and all that.

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You do different competitions and at the end of the week, they all add up your score and whoever has the highest score gets off to go on a top hurricane, back at the Trinity River for Waterfowl.

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We sadly, my group got last place because we didn't have the brightest people on our team, but last year at Buckskin, I was looking up to win this off her fund and go to Freeer Texas.

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for an amazing white-tailed heart.

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As I was saying, it's very hands-on, you can tell there's no instructors, and either

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there's an instructor there, but he's just looking at the duck.

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You have this scalpel and everything dissecting the duck, learning all its organs, you pull

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it out, and you, your very hands-on, you learn everything about the duck, all the instructors

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do is tell you where to cut, so you don't cut everything up, but you are the one cutting

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into it, pulling everything out and learning all the organs and everything.

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So this part was actually pretty fun, this is a Yagi antenna and they put a little receiver,

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it's probably a little bit smaller than this remote around the ducks neck, but it was just

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a duck decoy.

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And about 10 o'clock at night, they gave us those receivers and we had it so we couldn't

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see them, we had to go out in the pitch flat with that receiver and try to find our duck

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and they buried them deep into brush and all that.

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That was probably the funnest thing we did because it was really cool and not so hot outside.

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So have a talk about your machine.

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As you can tell, this lady right here has a clipboard and what we do is they sit there and

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you go through all the habitat and if it has not much water then you give it a one for

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very poor, if it has evasive species, you give it a one for not good, food or shelter firm.

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And then at the end you go through and you add all those up in whatever number you get, I'm

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pretty sure if it's below 10, then it's a poor habitat and if it was above 20, then that's

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the perfect habitat, you don't want to do anything to that one.

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So this is for the information about the gates, they're a phone member and their website.

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Any questions?

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Cooper, thank you.

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Thank you.

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are you going to Santa Ana next year? I'm going to try go to the bus or the coastal

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brigade, whichever one they expect me to. How many kids can get can go to this?

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They usually pick about 30, 35, and they limit to the number.

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Well that's wonderful. You hit my thing to say, of course, you did a good job and I

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think we can all tell the difference over the 30 years how much better you've gotten

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making this presentation. You're doing a great job. Thank you.

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The only thing I would say that hunting ethics does not apply to feral columns, though.

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No, no.

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Well, if you really want to be ethical, you have a knife only in this water.

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We're running down.

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Well, I wanted that echo, Mr. Jones, as comments, you could really see the development Cooper,

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and that's great, but you should be very proud of yourself and your colleagues and whoever

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those, those, those, the general people we, people are in regards to their feelings and comments

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about firearm safety and training and, as you well know, it's actually the exact opposite

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those that aren't familiar with firearms and those that do have that here based off ignorance

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is the liability to safety and ultimately to our second amendment rights.

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So I applaud you for what you're doing and all the kids are involved and thank you for being here today.

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Thank y'all for letting me tell you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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This is my first day in my brother rainy.

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Welcome.

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If y'all mind if I get a big picture with y'all tomorrow?

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No, come on out.

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Let's take a closer look.

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Everybody look this way and smile.

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He's smiling.

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you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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As a former averageist in my life I say that August 15th to the first for Austin's ragweed season in the

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County soap. When it dries up in the sun shines and the wind blows, ragged with

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these here.

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So, Cooper may call it bubbly, but the name is ragged with giant ragged

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soap. That's when you want to be invoiting milk and mint because those two foods cross

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react. A little pearl for you. The worst thing you need is that you're a peppermint

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hatty. Second pack has them on the counter every where they have a store. Okay, now we come

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Public comment now Matt you can either speak in public comment or you can speak when we open the item. You want to speak when they open it

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Well, no you really can't do that because it's read in it's hard, so you can use your three minutes and public comment

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Are you can speak on an item 12 which way you want it?

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Okay, all right, then public comment is now open

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Just open would you like to take that?

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Tell us what you're going to, what you're going to talk about and also,

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you're speaking

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on, to that in a second, comment time and budget, okay?

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Yeah, okay, first of all, I wanted to speak on item 12, of course, the issue is more debt.

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Quite frankly, I've come to the realization that arguing the merits of dedication and

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government circles is pretty much the Einstein's definition of insanity, but I am concerned

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about just dead in general. There's a reason why Susan Cones, her last year's in office,

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made that a central issue in her office, an issue in a lot of reports concerning local debt,

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and I think if we push this thing north of the half a billion dollars or six hundred million

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dollars, I don't know that we'll ever call out that whole. So I am concerned about that. Once

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get a not arguing in the merit. Also, on the three-minute time limit, of course, now,

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being told I can't do politics and makes it even more onerous, I think it's disrespectful.

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With all due respect to the court, I think it's disrespectful. First of all, you set

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your courts at a time when most people can't be here. We have to throw a foot or sacrifice

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out of the things that are locked in here during this time, and then you're going to give

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us three minutes. But then you go on a campaign show and you say, you work for us. Well, I

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company and I don't let my employees dictate to me how long I'm going to talk to them and I just

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feel that that's hypocritical and I wish I'll deport review that. My old county didn't have a

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time limit and I don't think I'll should either. But you compare to them. One of the things that

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I would like to see I'll put me on this budget and I may be speaking out of school here but I'd like

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to see I'll do it with the person of light counties. You go five or ten counties below you in population,

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five or ten counties above you in population, take your total budget numbers, publish that in your

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because I think that I think our numbers are quite frankly there a little bit out of

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a kilter with some of the like size counties and again I didn't like this on the paper

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but if you indulge me once again I want to address the Central Postal District because I heard

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some stuff online about you know some comments made here in the court that just quite frankly

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I'm not accurate. The Postal District does not waste access. Y'all waste access. Y'all

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know it's actually key types of saying. Catboard has nothing to do with it. Period in the story

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And I was delighted here, State Representative Jason Isaac, a few months ago at a presentation

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talk about the Fox Garden and the Henhouse when it comes to having local elected officials

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served in the Central Paisal District Board Directors.

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Thank God, there's finally an elected official who's saying, yeah, I've been saying that for

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10 years.

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Once again, I'm not going to say that there's any, any nefarious acting going on there.

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I have no evidence of that, but there are 190,000 soldiers in this county, I think we can

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on someone other than elected officials to fill those six or seven positions, a matter

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of fact, I'm with a million of the service.

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So if you all want to consider me next time, I'll be glad to come up here to tell you

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my background with the Texas Public Tax Code and what I've accomplished in those regards.

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And I'll thank you all for your time, thanks.

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Thank you, man.

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I forgot to set your timer, so you actually had five minutes.

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Oh, I'm here.

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Being lenient.

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Okay, the next we have Mr. Barber Hoppsons.

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On item 13, yes, ma'am. Then we have David Crowell. David, would you like to speak now?

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Yes, sir. David Crowell, I just represent myself. I very much appreciate your story this morning, Judge, about the soup and the need to get to the facts in order to make decisions. That's why I'm here to basically speak about this morning.

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I'm not just big about a past-run finance in this morning.

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I've heard many people, including yourselves, describe this past-run finance arrangement

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as a great deal.

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This past-run finance arrangement basically puts the cost of hurting the bill's certain state

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road projects onto the backs of the citizens of our county.

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This is done with the state's promise to pay a portion of it back to us over the next 20

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some odd years.

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I'd like to take a minute to let you know that some of us have a different view of this

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arrangement that never seems to reach the public's ear.

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What we are not told is that the county taxpayers are borrowing money today to pay for

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records that we do not own.

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We are not told the taxpayers are immediately having to pay interest on the money we have

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to borrow.

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We are not told that we do not earn interest on the portion that the state owes us back.

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I've reached the conclusion that so far the amount the state is paying us back is not enough

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to cover our annual interest on the debt we taxpayers have incurred to build these roads.

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With this new bond issue it's on the horizon I wanted to get this message out, but first I wanted to make sure my assessment was accurate, so I put together a schedule based on your published document's title statement of indebtedness.

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I made an appointment to meet with a county auditor to confirm that. Two of us met with Mr. Hosog and his assistant, July.

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During that meeting Mr. Hosog confirmed my conclusion. Both of us who request that meeting will be happy to provide this court with sworn affidators to that effect if you'd like.

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Last week, several of us met with commissioners Jones and Engels be to discuss some of the projects in the upcoming proposed roadbinds.

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During that meeting, the past three findings that came up in the concept of the current re-isbursements,

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not being enough to cover the interest was brought up.

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To my surprise, Commissioner Engels would be said the auditor told her that claim was not true.

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I was shocked to say the least.

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Therefore, I've put together the schedule I'm providing to you this morning.

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It is based on public documents from the county's website, as well as an additional document Mr.

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Hursard provided me during our earlier meeting.

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The three numbers in bold at the bottom of the page is what I'd like to focus on.

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The first number, 22.3 million, is the interest expense on these past-through bonds for the

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period 2011 through 2015.

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The second number is 13.7 million, which is the debt service from the past-through revenue

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from the same period.

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Both of these numbers are from your published document titled Hayes County Statement of

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Identities.

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As you can see, this certainly supports a conclusion that not enough money has come in from

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the state to even cover the interest on the bonds.

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Furthermore, Mr. Herzog provided me with a document showing that total received from the

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state on a project by project basis.

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As you can see, that schedule indicates more money has been received from the state than has been used

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to service the debt.

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But more importantly, that amount is still less than the interest on the past through bonds.

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Now, you have the specific detail of how I arrived at my conclusion.

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I would hope to court with now request for Mr. Herzog, the documentation he relied on,

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to support his comment to Commissioner Enkelsby.

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In summary, I find it of significant concern that I specific request to meet with Mr. Herzog to confirm my assumption.

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have him agree that I've reached a valid conclusion and now have him telling at least one

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commission that I'm wrong. If I'm wrong, show. If I'm right, admit. Thank you, court. Thank you.

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Okay, and I only have one other, this hopster wants to speak on item 13 when it's item is open.

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So, public comment is, you know, close. Thank you, what this is for your testimony.

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Okay, if it pleases the court, I want to open item number 10, I'd encourage it to

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belong for them.

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There are here in the court room.

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Item number 10, approve and confirm the appointments of Alice Flores and Greg Gumbels as

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Deputy Constables and Michael Varella as reserved deputy in the Hayes County Constable

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Precinct one office.

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But those ladies and gentlemen, please come forward.

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David doesn't have an employee at the month because they don't stay there long.

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I don't judge Judge Scott Feinke in Commissioner Inglesby, Mr. Jones Commissioner

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with Matt and Commissioner Conneye appreciate this moment of getting

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given the time for these three fine deputy constables to be sworn in.

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By you. Unfortunately, April 4th, April 4th, March 8th, too, which is really good, and we're happy to, well, that's good.

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I think a piece of Joe's will be really happy with the, we did research on all three 50 hospitals.

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As for us as a full toy, deputy constable, very robust is to micro roles coming on as a reserve and we want to welcome them.

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But a little by your order, right on them, I'd appreciate it just for a whole time and their families are here too.

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If you don't mind if they come up also and stand behind their spouses, not at all.

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Well, this has been a live concern, and this is great,

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wife, and it's done.

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Deputy, I'm going to swear you in,

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formally, appear on the day,

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and we'll get a picture at the end here, too,

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with your family and everybody.

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Our source is a proud mother of two young girls

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and proud wife of a husband.

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He was a veteran, and also works in law enforcement.

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He is also employed with B.K.

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Please support me.

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Alice is a Hayes County resident in Kyle.

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Alice is enjoys her time with her family as her spare time, and she enjoys playing soccer.

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While in court, her life was the greatest start with Sen. Angela, please.

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Academy, where she is, was she attended and completed in 2010.

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She has worked for Austin Community College. Please support that.

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She also has worked for VK Police Department in 2012.

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I was turned to our immediate peace officer's license in 2015 and at this time, she gave

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24 years of B.K. which was really great.

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We welcome Alex to Hayes County Chiefs Station, out of the courthouse, I think I would like

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that, so we will be working security patrol and civil process.

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Greg Romos is a family man, Greg has been at H. Sky Residence, it's 1993. His family

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comes from the commoner family, which is great aunt and needs for a partner who has

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had an elementary school, a ranch, a hill elementary, and beauty. Greg is married. This

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This is why.

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Who watched the University of Texas, she's been there for 29 years, where he has one

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son, and a daughter, who built the Tanjaxi Hayes High School, his son, which is 16, a junior

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high school.

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Hayes?

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Hayes?

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Yes?

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Okay.

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class of Austin PD. In April 1991, Greg has worked with a sense that not only

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police department, he has a total of 20 years combined law enforcement. We

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welcome Greg. Greg has has been a result of that for over three years. And we

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welcome that. Greg is going to be working once civil process and anything else

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County might have coming up. He will be working also on two states all day, every day basically

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on a Tuesday at the courthouse. So until from 10 a.m. until 8 p.m. on two states. So welcome.

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Thank you. Michael, Michael was born and raised in South Austin. His career started with

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This county is a single pair, one son, two daughters, his son is 27, and he has a 24-year-old

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daughter.

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His daughter is in a pocket, pocket school, Travis County.

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She played soccer.

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And to run his track, Michael stayed very busy with his family.

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There's a law enforcement career, a couple of area planning and council regional training

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academy started in 1995 and he was a Travis County constable for a place in four, which

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he also worked for a lightweight heels in 2008 and retired February of 2016, likely will

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reserve with the Constables Office, and we'll have multiple duties.

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The rest of the three of them will come up, we'll come out, and okay, up here, just the deputy's first, the slam and the gentleman, we're getting to work.

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have been full confidence.

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So, here by.

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But they can send it on both the measures court of haste county.

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Realize that I'm a point.

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I'd say I'm a point.

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For your true and awful deputy.

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In your name.

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In your name.

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Places did.

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to do before me and all acts and things pertaining to the office of cost of the freezing

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floor.

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This is weird.

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You promised to uphold the consequences of the state of Texas and the United States.

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I don't know if it's to the best of your ability.

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So it has to be done.

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Congratulations.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I say these people around the county and now they're part of it.

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So welcome.

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A lot of force would be so important.

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And David has a wonderful cadre of

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Let's jump in, as you can see, and welcome to all of y'all.

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Why don't we take a picture with family members when our child comes forward?

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We take pictures.

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Actually, it's an afternoon.

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As if, as if military officers,

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I always fear, thinking, you know,

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Metals and honors all five people.

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I lost them.

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So, I'm gonna let them do all that.

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That's what I'm supposed to say.

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Just for fun.

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David, when you get to you for a full of things and bad things, it's time to retire.

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Yeah, that's good.

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That's good.

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Let's get a picture of them by themselves.

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Please arrange, and then we'll get family and everybody.

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Do you want to write a book to a book?

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I don't want to write a book.

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Yeah, come on up, board.

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don't go a little busy.

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You spend so much time on your hair so you look so busy.

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Everybody look this way and smile. Smile.

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Okay.

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I'll get

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out of the way.

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Okay, everybody look this way and smile.

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You give us a picture of all of this in the hand.

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Like outside of the hand.

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I think I'm not sure if I'm going to put it on the floor.

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Do you have to get one finally and then one to decide.

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Thank you.

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Greg and Michael, thank you so much for being willing to serve the people of these camps.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes. We're going to vote it separately. The motion is to appoint those three deputies.

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Second, please call roll.

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I'm going to make a motion.

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Mr. Convoy?

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Yes.

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Mr. English speaker?

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Yes. Mr. Wizard.

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Yes. Mr. Jones?

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Yes.

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Thank you, Court, for a while.

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00:35:33,790 --> 00:35:34,390
I had indulgence.

442
00:35:34,690 --> 00:35:35,330
Thank you so much.

443
00:35:35,930 --> 00:35:38,550
Now let's move on to the consent items.

444
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:40,590
Please open two, three, five.

445
00:35:43,590 --> 00:35:45,890
Number two, approve payment to county invoices.

446
00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:49,950
Number three, approve Mr. Court minutes of August 9, 2016.

447
00:35:49,950 --> 00:35:56,630
Number four, there's a number of existing contracts for IIT-2015-B-10, the motion

448
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:58,990
oils for one additional here.

449
00:36:00,030 --> 00:36:05,530
Number five, ordered the general election to be held on November 8, 2016 in

450
00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:10,370
case counting taxes for the purpose of electing the county and free seat officers as

451
00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:16,610
required by article 16, 16, 16, section 65 of the Texas Constitution.

452
00:36:16,610 --> 00:36:17,050
next question.

453
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:18,830
Sir.

454
00:36:19,350 --> 00:36:19,850
Question 2.

455
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:20,550
An amendment.

456
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:23,050
This is Peter.

457
00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:23,090
Question 3.

458
00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:24,190
This is Carl Row.

459
00:36:24,670 --> 00:36:25,230
Question 4.

460
00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:26,890
Question 4.

461
00:36:27,530 --> 00:36:28,170
Question 5.

462
00:36:29,650 --> 00:36:29,830
Question 22.

463
00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:34,450
Question 7.

464
00:36:34,450 --> 00:36:40,930
Please call role.

465
00:36:40,930 --> 00:36:41,070
Question 1.

466
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:43,690
Question 2.

467
00:36:43,690 --> 00:36:43,710
Question 2.

468
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:45,910
Question 7.

469
00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:45,970
Question 2.

470
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:46,590
Question 2.

471
00:36:46,590 --> 00:36:53,550
and Melissa Benia to Chicago Eleanor to attend the CIS manager training regarding the U.C.I.S.

472
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:54,890
CAD system.

473
00:36:55,590 --> 00:37:00,590
Number seven, authorized county judge to accept an execute service agreement renewal with Aperus

474
00:37:00,590 --> 00:37:07,810
for the victim information and notification every day program for up to 27,750 dollars

475
00:37:07,810 --> 00:37:09,250
and 32 cents.

476
00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:13,290
Number eight, authorized county judge to accept an execute a maintenance contract

477
00:37:13,290 --> 00:37:23,290
from the office of the Attorney General for Statewide Prime Victim Notification Services and the amount of $27,000, $1,750 and $32,000.

478
00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:35,610
Number nine, approval to hold an online auction when they base auctioneers to dispose of surplus property pursuant to Texas Local Government Code 263.152

479
00:37:35,610 --> 00:37:41,710
and authorised purchasing to advertise auction will start August with 18 and end September 1.

480
00:37:41,710 --> 00:37:46,190
Some of the motion, a second, any further discussion,

481
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:52,330
I noticed that we are sending three

482
00:37:52,330 --> 00:38:00,490
of our people to Chicago for the CISCAN system, I noted in the back up that the company

483
00:38:00,490 --> 00:38:06,950
is paying for that travel expenses, so it's not cost to the county, please call roll over

484
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:10,190
four average? Mr. Connelly? Yes.

485
00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:12,190
Mr. Englishman? Yes.

486
00:38:12,730 --> 00:38:13,730
Mr. Wisden? Yes.

487
00:38:13,930 --> 00:38:15,130
Mr. Jones? Yes.

488
00:38:15,130 --> 00:38:17,170
Judge Cuck? Yes. Open. 11.

489
00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:20,810
Authorized development and community service

490
00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:23,570
director and general counsel to negotiate contract

491
00:38:23,570 --> 00:38:25,550
with JB Construction for modifications

492
00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:27,850
in the precinct to tax office.

493
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:29,690
Authorized county judge, excuse.

494
00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:31,070
I'm free to contact.

495
00:38:31,850 --> 00:38:32,470
So moved.

496
00:38:33,550 --> 00:38:33,690
Second.

497
00:38:34,490 --> 00:38:35,590
Motion made in the second.

498
00:38:35,590 --> 00:38:39,770
for the discussion seeing I'm hearing not please call roll.

499
00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:41,030
Mr. Connelly?

500
00:38:41,390 --> 00:38:41,930
Yes.

501
00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:42,910
Mr. Evelsby?

502
00:38:43,150 --> 00:38:43,230
Yes.

503
00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:44,090
Mr. Wistander?

504
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:44,490
Yes.

505
00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:45,190
Mr. Jones?

506
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:45,810
Yes.

507
00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:47,030
Judge Connelly?

508
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,380
Next phase is basically approving the release of road bonds.

509
00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:02,980
So let's do 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, so let's go 13 out separately

510
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:05,240
because there's a public comment on that one.

511
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,720
Is that correct?

512
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:12,410
Okay, open 12,

513
00:39:14,530 --> 00:39:19,930
14, 15 and 16 separately, so 12 first.

514
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:25,310
Number 12, discussion in possible action to consider the release of the main sponsor, number

515
00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:32,670
of 1, 0, 8, 8, 9, 1, 1, and the amount that 264,000, and acceptance of the roads into

516
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:36,490
the county road system for Mustang Valley, subdivision section 6.

517
00:39:36,490 --> 00:39:45,890
We have staff approval, please call roll.

518
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:49,470
Yes.

519
00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:51,890
Yes.

520
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:55,790
Number 13.

521
00:39:56,130 --> 00:39:59,590
Discussion of possible actually to consider the acceptance of road construction.

522
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:12,800
In Germany's improvements and releases of destruction, cash bond in the amount of 1,495,5363 dollars, 41 cents, but driftwood, subdivision, phase one, sexual one.

523
00:40:13,060 --> 00:40:20,000
The court calls forth witness to speak for three minutes.

524
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,140
How are you, how are you, Ms. Hobby?

525
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,440
Well, by Robertson, I'm speaking on behalf of myself.

526
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,460
Judge, I do not understand the system for these maintenance bonds.

527
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,260
And I'm sure I'm not the only person here who doesn't.

528
00:40:35,420 --> 00:40:38,400
I wonder if someone could briefly explain how this works.

529
00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:45,980
But secondly, for this particular item, which I believe is for Scott Roberts' Salt Lake area,

530
00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:56,060
The amount is so high, almost a one and a half million dollars as opposed to the others which are like 45,000, 30,000 and so on.

531
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:05,080
I'm wondering if this bond is covering not just the road itself, but the grand entranceway, which is called Thurman Roberts' way.

532
00:41:05,780 --> 00:41:12,420
And the mature trees that were planted there, I mean, I'm wondering why the amount is so much higher than for the other subdivisions.

533
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:15,620
Mr. Borshting, would you explain that?

534
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:19,980
Mr. Garza B is happy to say, you know, he allowed the ball over there.

535
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:20,780
He's great.

536
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,080
He's great.

537
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:24,160
He's great.

538
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:24,860
Your paper.

539
00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:26,400
Kurt Mesapeake.

540
00:41:27,260 --> 00:41:28,240
Certainly you may.

541
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:28,980
Ms. Opsen.

542
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,340
The construction.

543
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,100
When we have a new subdivision come in, all roads.

544
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:35,180
All new roads are required to meet county standards.

545
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:40,240
The developers have to either build the roads in advance,

546
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:44,480
have them expected by Mr. Borshanese Department, and then turned over to the county for maintenance.

547
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,640
There are instances where there can be private roads.

548
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,720
In that case, they pay for all the improvements up front, and cases like what you're seeing

549
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:55,960
on the agenda today, they would like to put a fiscal surety in place for the roads, continue

550
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,760
doing their development.

551
00:41:56,940 --> 00:41:58,680
They can get their plats and sell lots.

552
00:41:59,420 --> 00:42:04,740
We need insurance that the road is willing to be constructed to his standards, so the bond itself

553
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:08,820
for each one of these is based on an engineer's estimate of the road cost.

554
00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:13,420
This one's high because the cost of that road, maybe it's the linear feed of the road.

555
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,420
You've got our materials obviously that are going to be more expensive than smaller country lanes.

556
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,280
The bond only covers the street and drainage improvements.

557
00:42:21,620 --> 00:42:23,500
So let me cover any other things you've talked about.

558
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,240
You also mentioned maintenance bonds.

559
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:29,160
Our policy is after the road is constructed and we accept the construction.

560
00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:31,060
We'd like to take them into the maintenance system.

561
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,360
What the developers to pay for maintenance for two years?

562
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,320
We require 10% of the original construction costs for the maintenance period.

563
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:37,760
Okay.

564
00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:39,520
I think that's it.

565
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:45,780
In this case, they're private roads and so we're not asking for a maintenance problem.

566
00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:47,720
Okay.

567
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:48,920
So what's the instructions?

568
00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:50,660
The least.

569
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:53,160
All right.

570
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,140
And then thereafter, they are required to maintain the roads or the county.

571
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,020
They're required to maintain the roads.

572
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:00,460
Okay.

573
00:43:00,460 --> 00:43:00,900
Thank you.

574
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,480
That answer your question is awesome.

575
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,560
Just as a point of clarification,

576
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,020
these roads are inside a municipal maintenance district

577
00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:11,420
or that's correct commission.

578
00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:14,220
Therefore, which means there wouldn't be any ability

579
00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:16,340
for the county to take the maintenance of those roads

580
00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:17,720
because of being in a local area.

581
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,560
That's right.

582
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,120
The district has road authority.

583
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,240
Just ask one question.

584
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,100
I guess you said that we're releasing

585
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,180
the construction bond here, right?

586
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,220
I got you said that they would just go

587
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:39,180
It was Jerry's, I didn't pay attention to the purpose, but we are releasing the construction bonds.

588
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:41,840
In this case, we're going to start built and they've been approved by the government.

589
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,440
Okay, number 13 is open on the floor.

590
00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:48,440
Does it have a motion?

591
00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:53,960
Judge, I was aware that we accept, consider the acceptance, the road destruction,

592
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,780
agreement, improvements, and release the construction cash model in the amount of a million

593
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,640
$495,563 from 41 cents for the driftwood subdivision phase one section.

594
00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:05,920
Second.

595
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:06,960
Question 2.

596
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,660
Please call roll.

597
00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:09,660
Mr. Cummett.

598
00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:11,220
Mr. Ingol's penis.

599
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,280
Mr. Wisnett.

600
00:44:12,340 --> 00:44:12,840
Yes.

601
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,340
Mr. Jones.

602
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:13,960
Yes.

603
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,260
Mr. Jones.

604
00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:17,100
Number 14, please.

605
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:33,340
Question of possible actions, consider the acceptance of the roads into the county road system, release the maintenance order, number 1, 0, 2, 6, 4, 2, 9, and the amount of $46,799, and 75 cents for reviewing the ramp subdivision for these ones.

606
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:39,040
I would sort of move and mention, Jerry, we have staff approval for this, correct?

607
00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:48,800
Okay, we have a motion in a second on item number 14, further discussion, please call roll.

608
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,800
Mr. Conway?

609
00:44:50,140 --> 00:44:50,440
Yes.

610
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,200
Mr. Englishman?

611
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:51,520
Yes.

612
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,260
Mr. Jones?

613
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:53,880
Yes.

614
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,480
Judge Colin?

615
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:54,940
Yes.

616
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:55,580
Number 15.

617
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,940
Question of possible actions consider the acceptance of road construction and drainage infrastructure.

618
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:13,540
Released of the construction bond number K, 093, 2, 465, 3, 4441,000, 440,000, 74,000, and exceptions of the maintenance bond number

619
00:45:13,540 --> 00:45:22,720
1,040, 897 for in the amount of $30,000, $30,000, $764 and $840 for a two-year period

620
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,800
for Shadow Creek subdivision based 7773.

621
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:26,580
Some move.

622
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:28,840
Fourth and second.

623
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:29,820
For the discussion.

624
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,520
Please call roll.

625
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,720
Commissioner Conway.

626
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:33,540
Yes.

627
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:33,740
Commissioner.

628
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,360
Yes.

629
00:45:34,620 --> 00:45:35,200
Commissioner Wisdom.

630
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,740
Yes.

631
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,360
Mr. Jones.

632
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:36,720
Yes.

633
00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:39,140
Number 16.

634
00:45:39,620 --> 00:45:46,160
Question and possible, action to consider the acceptance of the roads into the county road system and release of the maintenance line.

635
00:45:46,460 --> 00:45:59,240
Number P are at 911-8462MNT and the amount of 126,744 dollars and 75 cents for remark and subdivision phase two section four.

636
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:06,240
so maybe second motion second for discussion I would like to say that if you'll notice

637
00:46:07,580 --> 00:46:14,320
precincts two three and four I'll have a road project with releasing a bond none of precinct one

638
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:22,960
please call roll. Mr. Colby? Yes. Mr. English speaker? Yes. Mr. Wissan? Yes. Mr. Jones? Yes. Judge Colby? Yes.

639
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,300
We're scheduled for 10 o'clock public hearing on

640
00:46:31,310 --> 00:46:36,730
1115 waivers, and we've got a lot to do.

641
00:46:38,030 --> 00:46:45,070
ESD number 9 possibility, and we have some other things that we have in the court accompanied

642
00:46:45,070 --> 00:46:50,970
that's here for economic development that will come after an executive session.

643
00:46:51,830 --> 00:46:54,510
So, Commissioner, would you like us to open their item?

644
00:46:54,510 --> 00:47:00,510
For example, do that quickly and come back and we'll just just in passing coming up the stairs today.

645
00:47:01,610 --> 00:47:02,190
It's a commissioning.

646
00:47:02,270 --> 00:47:03,290
It'll be precinct.

647
00:47:03,730 --> 00:47:05,330
So we should take the direction of the commissioning.

648
00:47:05,550 --> 00:47:13,470
But I heard that there are an attendance and would like to be here and be public.

649
00:47:14,730 --> 00:47:21,690
And whatever decision the court decides to to make considering the type of day that we have on schedule.

650
00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:26,490
I think it would be a good idea to have the same address that issue, yes, Judge.

651
00:47:27,590 --> 00:47:31,870
Okay, so if it please the court will go, I don't thirty-one is that correct?

652
00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:33,690
Yes, sir.

653
00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:38,690
Executive Association, Results Section 55107155108,

654
00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:41,130
Seventy of Texas Government Code,

655
00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:44,450
Concentrate with Council and Liberation regarding economic development,

656
00:47:45,390 --> 00:47:47,530
negotiations associated with project taxes,

657
00:47:47,530 --> 00:47:52,490
possible action by falling open court, court if you'll quickly join the

658
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:58,430
chambers we will convene

659
00:48:02,140 --> 00:48:03,580
in move along expeditiously.

660
00:48:09,830 --> 00:48:11,190
Don't make me send you to your

661
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:11,770
room.

662
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,460
Thank you for your cooperation. We have just returned from the executive

663
00:48:18,460 --> 00:48:26,740
session arising number 31 as I announced it was on project Texas. We now have a

664
00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:30,500
motion from the executive section back to the commissioner.

665
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:32,660
Ego's the committee of the year at the floor.

666
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:33,720
Thank you, Judge.

667
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:36,800
Judge, I'd like to make a motion to authorize the county judge.

668
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:37,980
Listen, listen.

669
00:48:38,620 --> 00:48:41,860
To execute a chapter 381 economic development

670
00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:46,380
incentive agreement between Hayes County and vespi.com LLC

671
00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:49,300
has presented in executive session and has now

672
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:52,120
presented to the county clerk.

673
00:48:52,920 --> 00:49:00,900
Second. Motion. Second. I like our economic development staff. Come up and explain what we're

674
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:06,860
doing here today. Hey, we got a cruise, while we're here. Ms. Cruz, welcome. You have the floor.

675
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:16,060
Thank you. Good morning, Judge. I'm sorry. Are you timing me? My name is Adriana Cruz. I'm the president

676
00:49:16,060 --> 00:49:21,660
of the Greater San Marcos Partnership and we're very excited to come to you today to discuss

677
00:49:21,660 --> 00:49:28,880
project Texas, which is best by a leading provider of technology product services and solutions,

678
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:34,140
which has selected San Marcos as the location of an e-commerce sales operation.

679
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,960
This few comments on the project, this will be the company's first and only Texas facility

680
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,300
of its kind.

681
00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:48,720
They expect to hire 25 employees for sales positions in the first year with plans to expand

682
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:54,640
employment opportunities up to 50 in the following years. They'll be located in a 20,000

683
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:00,000
square foot building at 900 by the lane, a pre-existing building that has been built.

684
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,980
Make it since fall 2014 and they are scheduled to begin operations in October, November 2016.

685
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:14,200
We're very excited to welcome another global brand name as best-by.

686
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:20,180
This previously vacant building will now serve as a major revenue source for the city and the county.

687
00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:26,380
So, the project parameters are an investment of 1.25 million.

688
00:50:28,020 --> 00:50:36,080
We expect the incentive that the county is voting on and proposing will be a 75% rebate

689
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:43,800
of sales tax for a 10-year period, renewable for two 10-year renewals based on the performance

690
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,900
of the agreement and a 50% personal property tax rebate.

691
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:56,080
This revenue will be significant to the city and the county.

692
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:02,540
The revenue after the sales tax rebate for the county will be approximately $14 million

693
00:51:02,540 --> 00:51:05,060
at the end of the agreement.

694
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,860
And again, we're very excited about welcoming this new corporate citizen to

695
00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:15,840
Please, County, and I'd be happy to answer any questions that the commissioners may have.

696
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,500
I have a question.

697
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,080
So currently in the vacant facility on bug lane,

698
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,840
there is, and I don't know what it is.

699
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:40,860
It's not my first thing, but there is a, obviously there's an assessor evaluation on that property, an adform assessor value.

700
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:50,940
And then that commercial property is then tax appropriately by the, in this case being

701
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:57,480
in San Morkas, by the city of San Morkas, Hase County, the San Morkas School District.

702
00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:02,650
Again, I don't know what that is.

703
00:52:03,070 --> 00:52:08,390
It's a half a million dollars or if it's two million dollars on the appraisal books.

704
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:19,890
That is generating X amount of admiral taxes all in those three jurisdictions.

705
00:52:22,010 --> 00:52:32,490
This proposal and opportunity that a best-by has provided us on a very competitive national basis.

706
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:45,700
As I understand it does a couple things, one, it should appreciate the value of the current

707
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:51,460
facility with the million and a half of whatever you described in renovations and improvements

708
00:52:51,460 --> 00:52:57,480
to the fixed asset that is currently empty and bloated.

709
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:14,220
So there will be an additional ad forum taxes brought into the three local agencies and jurisdictions that is higher than what it was prior.

710
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,700
Now we are offering an embankment on a piece of that.

711
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:22,340
But most importantly,

712
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:30,200
there were no demanding, there were no war if there were very little

713
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:37,220
sales tax generated out of that current facility.

714
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:47,420
In the way this is set up and the current changes in the state of Texas in regards to

715
00:53:47,420 --> 00:53:54,980
these types of centers and I forget what the actual technical name of it is, but basically

716
00:53:54,980 --> 00:54:03,520
these call centers generating this volume of sales in our state.

717
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:07,080
Now those sales tax dollars

718
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:13,820
were weren't that vulnerable before because of all this work that has been done. Now that is

719
00:54:13,820 --> 00:54:24,040
How much an estimated sales tax revenue along by this 120,000 square foot facility here in Hayes County?

720
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:35,080
The estimated amount is in the hundreds of millions of dollars ranging somewhere between 240 million to 300 million of sales tax.

721
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:41,840
So we have, we have zero today over the life of this contract.

722
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,860
We estimate anywhere from $240 million, the $300 million,

723
00:54:49,220 --> 00:54:56,880
independent of any out-home taxes to be generated off-cells tax

724
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,820
in which we will offer an abatement.

725
00:55:00,110 --> 00:55:06,130
To go along with that. So if I'm calling you correctly,

726
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:15,600
we debate 75% of that.

727
00:55:17,860 --> 00:55:24,080
Basically, that's a, that's a self-sex collection of, what do we estimate in over that 10-year period of time after the invasions?

728
00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:36,060
Over the 30-year period is 14 million to the county. And the sales tax generated that was quoted, the 240-300 million is pretty year, not over the last year.

729
00:55:36,060 --> 00:55:43,340
Okay, so that's per year. So we're talking about 14 million dollars of revenue potentially injected into the county's half-sense

730
00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:49,380
World Cell Tax revenue and then the city the cities would be I believe 42 million

731
00:55:52,570 --> 00:55:55,750
I'm not aware of another cell's types to the writer

732
00:55:55,750 --> 00:56:03,950
Like that in the county be on the out of all so within a 20 within a 20,000 square foot space

733
00:56:03,950 --> 00:56:10,030
It could be that this would be the second largest sales tax generator in the city.

734
00:56:14,420 --> 00:56:15,780
Councillor, do you have something to say?

735
00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:24,200
Yes, I just wanted to specify that the way we've crafted this is not an abatement per

736
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:24,400
say.

737
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,380
I know Commissioner, you're just using the term.

738
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:35,440
The way this operates is that there is a report of sales tax or a report of the job creation.

739
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:41,040
And then there's a grant payment made that isn't equivalent to 75% of the sales tax revenue

740
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:49,380
that the county collected, so it's important to note that because that is a protection

741
00:56:49,380 --> 00:56:51,680
for the county's ability to claw back.

742
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:54,280
So certain employment conditions are in there.

743
00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:59,220
This is a performance-based agreement, so performance has to be met.

744
00:57:00,060 --> 00:57:20,000
Adriana, I have a couple of questions, you know, the job creation, you know, when we look at these types of agreements and whether or not we should be approving them, you know, job creation of course is very important, but not only job creation, but it's where they're going to hire from.

745
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:28,740
I think we've talked about that so the company plans to look in the local area for their employment

746
00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:29,560
Yes, ma'am.

747
00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:39,680
And then also I know a lot of times we, you know, are asked well, why do we give these types of incentives?

748
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,100
You know, we don't have to.

749
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,340
They'll come anyway.

750
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,220
And can you talk a little bit because it's important to me?

751
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:54,120
It's important to the folks here, where there are others that we've more competing against

752
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,500
and how, you know, I can just talk a little bit about that process.

753
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,400
Absolutely.

754
00:57:59,020 --> 00:58:03,780
Economic development is a very competitive process.

755
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:15,800
We were in competition with other localities within the state and we crafted the best packet

756
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:23,260
that we could with the city and the county working together to land this very, very important

757
00:58:23,260 --> 00:58:27,500
revenue generator and job creation announcement.

758
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,500
This e-commerce retail center does help to diversify our economy.

759
00:58:33,780 --> 00:58:39,480
It is one of our target industry sectors that we are competing for.

760
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:44,640
So again, we're very excited about the project and we do have representatives here from

761
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:50,000
company who would very much like to speak and say a few words.

762
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,640
Thank you so much and I just before they come up I just really went also think the city

763
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:01,040
of San Marcos because they of course played a big part and we worked together to help this

764
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,300
happen and so thank you.

765
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,740
Okay, one of the two is for us.

766
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:08,840
Absolutely.

767
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:12,640
This is Mr. Lopez with Best Buy.

768
00:59:15,460 --> 00:59:17,440
Good morning, Mr. Judge. Good morning, Mr.

769
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,380
My name is Dan Lopez and with Best Buy.

770
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:23,960
And I just want to thank the county for this opportunity.

771
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,600
We're very pleased to reach the agreement with the county in the city

772
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,900
to bring this e-commerce sales operation to San Marcos into his county.

773
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,740
And just want to thank you very much for the opportunity.

774
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:36,840
Thank you.

775
00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:38,540
Thank you for the opportunity.

776
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:46,340
I have an old lot of couch which is best by so it's a very happy to see you here.

777
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:56,960
It's like Amazon Prime for my wife to put on another offer, a delivery person just for her.

778
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:20,440
Thank you, I've been, and I just say that, you know, it's really not doubting the numbers, but boy, those numbers, certainly are big of the, especially self-tax for me, per year. I'm just amazed at how many sales happen online, that, you know, best by generates.

779
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:27,900
And we wish you the very best, Mr. Lopez, you and your company, because your success is our success.

780
01:00:28,860 --> 01:00:35,140
We are linked by contracts, so we're very excited and want to really think of, let's

781
01:00:35,140 --> 01:00:42,120
Mr. Ditton, city for there, working with our jurisdiction in Mr. Gardson, and really think

782
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:49,780
the professionalism and the activity of the partnership. As I've already mentioned, we have

783
01:00:49,780 --> 01:00:56,560
all these plans and how we can best coordinate and put ourselves in a competitive position

784
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:05,240
here in our state across our nation and internationally, and this is a big win today with

785
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:16,400
a very fine respected company that will be such a mutual benefit to all of us in job creation

786
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:39,020
in tax base, revenue, and really getting into this new economy, this e-commerce economy in a way from the brick and mortar that we have traditionally been a part of, so it's exciting and I really appreciate advice for it.

787
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,660
Thank you. Thank you very much.

788
01:01:41,660 --> 01:01:45,440
that item is now open for votes, correct?

789
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:46,720
Yes, we have a motion.

790
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,060
Second, please call role in the item.

791
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:49,840
Mr. Tommy?

792
01:01:50,620 --> 01:01:50,840
Yes.

793
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:51,520
Mr. In the speech.

794
01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:52,140
Yes.

795
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:52,640
Mr. President.

796
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:54,100
Yes.

797
01:01:54,300 --> 01:01:54,420
Yes.

798
01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:56,700
Thank you, Gordon.

799
01:01:57,940 --> 01:01:58,220
Okay.

800
01:01:58,380 --> 01:01:59,920
So we had a telecopper.

801
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,240
Work shop on the Limit 15 Wave Program,

802
01:02:02,420 --> 01:02:03,960
schedule from the open that item.

803
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,760
So we can try to play as close to schedule as possible

804
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,980
for those that are coming and going.

805
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,940
So we're back in session.

806
01:02:10,940 --> 01:02:20,780
at 10-17 on item number 22, hold a public hearing in 10 a.m. in accordance with Section 2-9-3.1-1

807
01:02:20,780 --> 01:02:25,260
of the Texas Health and Safety Code, including been not limited to discussion and possible

808
01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:31,840
acts to establish the assessment rate, the state fiscal year 2017 mandatory payments, and

809
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:37,460
authorized the intergovernmental transfer of the funds derived from those mandatory payments

810
01:02:37,460 --> 01:02:44,220
to provide the non-federal share of the supplemental payment program authorized under the Texas Health

811
01:02:44,220 --> 01:02:51,100
Care Transformation and Quality Improvement Program section 1115 Waver.

812
01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:52,660
Mr. Shaw, you have the floor.

813
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,440
Thank you, Judge.

814
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:54,640
Thanks, commissioners.

815
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,720
We're doing this for the second year now, our state representative and state senator last

816
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:00,380
session.

817
01:03:01,260 --> 01:03:05,980
Got this legislation passed for us in a few other jurisdictions in Texas that would allow

818
01:03:05,980 --> 01:03:11,720
mechanism for a local hospitals. Last year, we created this, what we call a local provider

819
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,460
participation fund, and we had one year of these mandatory payments. Last year, this

820
01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:21,660
will be our second year, which is what we're calling state fiscal year 2017, which starts

821
01:03:21,660 --> 01:03:26,900
September 1st, and the feds in the state have recently announced that we'll have a transfer

822
01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:31,400
opportunity here. You're coming up at the end of August, in the early September. So these

823
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,400
funds are very important for that for a local hospital. So we want to go ahead and get that

824
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,360
I think we have some people from the hospitals if you have any questions.

825
01:03:39,460 --> 01:03:43,800
I have just handed commissioners maybe actual amounts that we will be approving today.

826
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,600
This hearing was posted first date statute in local newspaper.

827
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,580
And if you have any questions let me know if any of the hospitals are here as well.

828
01:03:53,900 --> 01:04:02,460
And along basically this is a pastoral case county is a pastoral response in order to send that because they cannot do that.

829
01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:04,640
Yes, we collect these funds.

830
01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:10,080
We put them in a separate account, and then any time that the state opens up the transfer windows,

831
01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:13,480
we then transfer those funds they get matched, and then they get sent down to the hospital.

832
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,900
We're out of all of those aspects of this.

833
01:04:16,380 --> 01:04:21,700
We're primarily just collecting these dollars from the hospitals, putting them to an account waiting until we can transfer them.

834
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:28,560
And this is part of the 1115-way program, the state and the feds have agreed to continue that for another year.

835
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:33,600
So we'll continue to do this until then, and then we'll see what happens in the future.

836
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,760
And what will be the consequences of this program go to the White?

837
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,520
There's plenty of consequences.

838
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,920
I don't think that the state and the Fed have really gotten deep into what would happen.

839
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,040
I think most people believe there will be some continuation of this program.

840
01:04:52,340 --> 01:04:54,820
We don't know what level and what the rules will be.

841
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,680
There are several states that have recently renegotiated their waivers.

842
01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:59,960
and the

843
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:14,700
The rules have definitely changed for some and priorities have been put in different places. So, either the state's working hard to try to get that nail down so that we not surprise. Everyone is optimistic that we'll build a continued, something similar to that waiver program in the future. We just don't know what it's going to look like and how it's going to work.

844
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:28,780
Now, obviously, we have several functions here for our citizens of AIS County that are directly related to that waiver program. A clinic that's operated by Central Texas Medical Center is part of that waiver. And then, obviously, these funds for our hospital, our local hospitals.

845
01:05:30,020 --> 01:05:34,120
Well, Dr. Chanko, I'll go ahead and provide a motion, and then if anyone went from the hospital

846
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,580
to the government's feet.

847
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,040
What would we do with the motion?

848
01:05:38,260 --> 01:05:40,220
The second, then we discuss it at the hearing.

849
01:05:40,860 --> 01:05:45,460
Okay, so I'll make a motion judge to all the rise of the county to collect a mandatory payment

850
01:05:45,460 --> 01:05:49,060
from each institutional healthcare provider in Hase County.

851
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:57,000
Established the state fiscal year 2017 mandatory payments of $5,646,628.

852
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:07,860
$108.58 percent of Texas Medical Center, $6,797,668.08 for seeking medical center Hayes,

853
01:06:08,020 --> 01:06:18,080
$759,354.06 for warm springs rehabilitation of Kyle, and $29,170.38 for oceans, behavioral,

854
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:25,560
behavioral hospital, which equals 6 percent of the net patient revenue of each hospital

855
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:43,620
And authorizing intergovernmental transfer of the funds derived from those mandatory payments to provide the non-federal share of the supplemental payment program all the rise under the Texas Health Care Transformation and Quality Improvement Program, otherwise known as the 1150 waiver.

856
01:06:44,940 --> 01:06:50,440
Second, motion, second, the M1th and the hospital care to come at our,

857
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,380
it's in the root yourself because everybody doesn't know you.

858
01:06:57,970 --> 01:07:10,170
Judge McFishers, I'm Liz Johnson with seat and health care family, and I think we are very grateful for your partnership in this now not so new opportunity and going into the second year.

859
01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:20,990
I think we've worked out a lot of the King's and can continue to be grateful for your partnership and the partnership with CTMC and the other two hospitals in the community, so thank you.

860
01:07:20,990 --> 01:07:26,690
You've been describing it in layman's terms for people watching and understand just generally

861
01:07:26,690 --> 01:07:31,610
what this means to the hospitals and to public health overall in safety and hastily, please.

862
01:07:32,350 --> 01:07:40,070
Sure, so I think for both of our Central Texas Medical Center and seeking health care family,

863
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:46,430
we open our doors to anyone who needs health care in this community and often that means people who cannot afford

864
01:07:46,430 --> 01:07:54,730
care and we help to work with them and that often means that we may not receive reimbursement

865
01:07:54,730 --> 01:08:00,850
for that care and so inable and this is a way for us to draw down Texas dollars, he's

866
01:08:00,850 --> 01:08:06,150
county dollars from the federal level that we pay in our federal tax dollars back into our

867
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:10,730
local community for the care of the community of Rollas,

868
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:12,430
as well as the un-under-insured.

869
01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:13,990
Thank you.

870
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:15,510
Thank you.

871
01:08:15,510 --> 01:08:15,610
Thank you.

872
01:08:17,340 --> 01:08:17,420
Thank you.

873
01:08:17,540 --> 01:08:21,260
Well, I'd like to thank you and all the health care partners

874
01:08:21,260 --> 01:08:24,300
and the work together to make this program work so well

875
01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:25,440
for these candidates.

876
01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:28,420
It's just a great program.

877
01:08:28,580 --> 01:08:33,180
I just hope that the federal government and their ultimate wisdom

878
01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:36,680
can change something like it so that we can divide the care

879
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,380
this is even our community.

880
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:44,520
We do stand all of you for your cooperation together and working with the county and each other.

881
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,380
So we can do great things to be worked together.

882
01:08:48,380 --> 01:08:51,760
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for your support.

883
01:08:58,540 --> 01:09:03,660
My name is Anne Burkhammer Miller and I'm the Director of Health Information Management at Central Texas Medical Center.

884
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:11,580
And again, as Ms. Johnson noted, we very much appreciate the collaboration with the county and assisting us with this project.

885
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,600
It's been a very good collaboration with our area hospitals as well.

886
01:09:17,180 --> 01:09:20,560
And I think it's been a win for the residents of Hase County.

887
01:09:21,220 --> 01:09:23,780
As you mentioned, we have the low-income clinic.

888
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,680
We're finishing up our third year.

889
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,640
And that's just been essential for the low-income residents of Hase County.

890
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:30,920
We're able to see healthcare.

891
01:09:31,620 --> 01:09:38,060
And as Liz suggested, also, the charity care that our facilities provide is very important in this county.

892
01:09:38,060 --> 01:09:41,940
So again, we really appreciate your efforts and the collaboration.

893
01:09:42,380 --> 01:09:43,220
Thank you.

894
01:09:43,420 --> 01:09:44,060
Thank you.

895
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Okay.

896
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,560
And you have a motion of second on the floor.

897
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,440
Please call roll on Adam's number.

898
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:50,440
22.

899
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,320
Yes.

900
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:54,080
Mr.

901
01:09:54,220 --> 01:09:54,600
Yes.

902
01:09:55,340 --> 01:09:55,720
Mr. Weston.

903
01:09:56,300 --> 01:09:57,000
Mr. Jones.

904
01:09:57,580 --> 01:09:57,740
Yes.

905
01:09:58,940 --> 01:09:59,100
Court.

906
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:16,540
We have people here in the court to speak on item number 25.

907
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:29,980
And we have Dan here for number 26. And we have, uh, would you like a five minute break or something like that?

908
01:10:29,980 --> 01:10:34,760
after. Okay, if I let's take a five minute break.

909
01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:39,350
This calendar, I'm going to take

910
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:46,690
your item next because you're voting places and all of that really is germane to all

911
01:10:46,690 --> 01:10:52,090
the other discussions about voting times and places. So if you'll come forward, we'll

912
01:10:52,090 --> 01:10:58,670
open item number 18. No, that's right, number 19. Number 19, discussion, possible action

913
01:10:58,670 --> 01:11:05,670
to adopt the early voting schedule dates and times for the November 8, 2016 General Election.

914
01:11:06,110 --> 01:11:07,510
Thank you for your hard work.

915
01:11:07,870 --> 01:11:10,170
Oh, you're welcome. Thank you. Good morning, Court.

916
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:12,710
All your files, loads, and be over, right?

917
01:11:13,630 --> 01:11:14,630
I'm still not counting.

918
01:11:15,490 --> 01:11:16,530
I don't know how to speak.

919
01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:18,430
We're freely, maybe.

920
01:11:19,610 --> 01:11:23,930
I provide you that you each with the schedule, which falls kind of normal to...

921
01:11:23,930 --> 01:11:25,490
We will be 15 court.

922
01:11:26,290 --> 01:11:27,310
Past elections.

923
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:33,510
I would note that we have added Belta.

924
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:39,710
Welcome, Senator, to do it Saturday and Sunday, which I'm hoping

925
01:11:39,710 --> 01:11:44,830
will relieve some of the election day lines that we do have in that area.

926
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:46,590
So we're going to give that a shot.

927
01:11:46,850 --> 01:11:52,090
I did visit with Commissioner Wizznan's office and I believe he's in favor of that.

928
01:11:52,090 --> 01:12:00,430
not to say so today. I did recommend that we open in Buda by their request. They have an

929
01:12:00,430 --> 01:12:07,630
election and basically they say they're willing to pay for that. So four days to help

930
01:12:07,630 --> 01:12:14,890
you know, not create a long line so an election day and of course I believe I already

931
01:12:14,890 --> 01:12:22,450
voting sites. One thing I had been pursuing, which I have not been able to succeed yet, is that

932
01:12:22,450 --> 01:12:29,370
I would like to see at least a couple of days on the east side of Carl Interstate 35. I had

933
01:12:29,370 --> 01:12:34,210
not confirmed a location. I've been in some conversation with Commissioner Engelspeak,

934
01:12:34,970 --> 01:12:40,550
but I would like the, are you going adopted? And I will do my best to get that completed

935
01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:47,370
ASAP, and hopefully we work at least a couple of days on the east side of COP, but I do not

936
01:12:47,370 --> 01:12:53,430
have that to present to the court today. So again, I'd like to, you know, adoption of what I did

937
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:59,990
present, unless you have some... Well, this is the minimum number of corrects. So you could always

938
01:12:59,990 --> 01:13:05,470
have issues. Yes. And we can get it set, because we do have other elections. And the only one

939
01:13:05,470 --> 01:13:14,590
And I'm really looking at, is on the east side of, again, the cop area to serve our citizens

940
01:13:14,590 --> 01:13:15,550
on that side.

941
01:13:19,210 --> 01:13:27,590
I'll just thank you for continuing to work with me and doing that, and I guess if nothing else,

942
01:13:27,810 --> 01:13:32,270
I know that there are hospitals available, it might not be ideal, but if you really can't

943
01:13:32,270 --> 01:13:36,150
anything else I would just say that we take a look at that again.

944
01:13:37,650 --> 01:13:39,850
And I hope maybe be on court next week.

945
01:13:40,170 --> 01:13:41,630
Get it, you know, ASAP again.

946
01:13:43,070 --> 01:13:44,350
But I haven't ignored it.

947
01:13:44,350 --> 01:13:48,070
I have been out of pocket a little bit more for meetings and various things.

948
01:13:49,390 --> 01:13:51,110
But I'm still pursuing it, so.

949
01:13:51,930 --> 01:13:52,090
Sure.

950
01:13:52,270 --> 01:13:52,570
Good.

951
01:13:52,770 --> 01:13:56,090
I'd like to add my thanks to Ms. Count, not only for the effective administration

952
01:13:56,090 --> 01:14:00,090
to come to our office for all these years, but like the commissioner mentioned,

953
01:14:00,090 --> 01:14:04,750
staying with us and getting working through the upcoming election which is important for all

954
01:14:04,750 --> 01:14:06,410
of our voters and residents.

955
01:14:08,170 --> 01:14:12,950
The other thing I'd like to say is that the task of fighting voting locations is not

956
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:19,110
an easy one because there's a lot of technological requirements nowadays that is hard to find

957
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:24,730
location that meet the need of technology also and combine that with the opportunity for

958
01:14:24,730 --> 01:14:29,910
our citizens have as best opportunities they can vote, but she's been very diligent with

959
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:30,490
that.

960
01:14:30,730 --> 01:14:35,670
I personally appreciate it in pre-sync form and I think that she's served well all of

961
01:14:35,670 --> 01:14:38,930
the aspects of the voters in haste County for a number of years.

962
01:14:40,230 --> 01:14:41,350
Thank you.

963
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:47,570
Yes, and I would encourage our citizens to vote early if they can, to avoid long lines

964
01:14:47,570 --> 01:14:49,330
in any polling place.

965
01:14:49,970 --> 01:14:55,610
We've tried to put enough early voting locations throughout the county that people can vote.

966
01:14:56,030 --> 01:14:59,710
Going to work, coming home from work and going to avoid that line.

967
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,440
We don't want something that happened on the voting day on the 8th and you're not able to vote. I mean, that don't take that chance. Your vote is important.

968
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:16,940
And so please vote early if you can't. That's what we've done on this hard work. Thank you again. So I need a motion to accept.

969
01:15:16,940 --> 01:15:21,220
I'll make a motion judge to adopt the arrival of the schedules, the dates and

970
01:15:21,220 --> 01:15:23,940
times for the November 8th, 16 June of election.

971
01:15:24,340 --> 01:15:24,480
Second.

972
01:15:24,780 --> 01:15:25,560
Motion in a second.

973
01:15:25,700 --> 01:15:26,560
Any further discussion?

974
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:29,500
Thanks, Joyce.

975
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,700
Please call roll.

976
01:15:31,980 --> 01:15:32,260
Yes.

977
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:32,720
Mr. Cummins?

978
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:33,480
Yes.

979
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:34,040
Mr. Innoffey?

980
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,100
Mr. Jones?

981
01:15:36,500 --> 01:15:36,780
Yes.

982
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:37,420
Mr. Cummins? Yes.

983
01:15:37,420 --> 01:15:38,720
Yes. Now, number 20.

984
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:44,320
Discussed with Postal Act to adopt the election day polling sites for the November 8th,

985
01:15:48,900 --> 01:15:56,180
Okay, once again you've been provided a list, I've visited with the commissioners where I

986
01:15:56,180 --> 01:16:03,980
make recommendations of basically two changes, one, and the Wimbler Commissioner Connelly

987
01:16:03,980 --> 01:16:12,240
jurisdiction that we move from first Baptist Church and Wimbledy to actually the community center

988
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:17,480
in Wimbledy. Actually, check in maps. It's fine on the border line, but the community center

989
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:28,660
actually is in 333333. And we worked with the Church, Cyprus Creek Church, which is really

990
01:16:28,660 --> 01:16:34,240
more in the location of populated voters for 335.

991
01:16:35,140 --> 01:16:36,960
So those are actual changes.

992
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,740
Move 3332, an existing polling location was 335,

993
01:16:42,020 --> 01:16:44,880
and change of 335 to Cypress Creek.

994
01:16:45,820 --> 01:16:50,820
And then in pracing 443, we were at the Belteria Clubhouse,

995
01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:52,220
which is kind of small.

996
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:56,060
One of the precincts that you do, both substantial numbers.

997
01:16:56,060 --> 01:17:03,180
And actually we have had some lines, the longer lines sometimes in that area because of that area

998
01:17:03,180 --> 01:17:09,200
our commuters basically work in the crate lines kind of after the five.

999
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:15,680
But again, it will be at the welcoming Belteo Welcome Center, which is closer to the entrance

1000
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,900
larger facility, more parking and won't have club activity.

1001
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:22,540
So it basically the just our voters.

1002
01:17:22,540 --> 01:17:28,580
So, again, I believe that we've done justice in that precinct and hopefully Commissioner

1003
01:17:28,580 --> 01:17:32,020
Wisnett will agree with that as far as knowing the facility.

1004
01:17:32,820 --> 01:17:33,600
Both of you.

1005
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,600
Having been a resident of the Act, I agree wholeheartedly with this challenge.

1006
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,960
And the best opportunity we have in that general location, which is proven to be a good

1007
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:44,740
area for folks.

1008
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,660
And hopefully, by the next primary election or special election, we'll have the precinct

1009
01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:53,820
three building as a voting site out there, which would be very convenient for lots of parking.

1010
01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:56,540
So we're working toward getting it perfect.

1011
01:17:57,980 --> 01:18:00,020
So just to be clear, Joyce,

1012
01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:11,040
that on election day, in the broadly speaking, the Wimbledy Valley

1013
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:11,560
area,

1014
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:23,400
we will have voters having the opportunity to vote and 335 at the Wimbledy

1015
01:18:24,980 --> 01:18:26,620
on a election day?

1016
01:18:26,620 --> 01:18:28,620
Yes, ma'am.

1017
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,640
333, 333, we actually voted the Commandia Center.

1018
01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:35,000
335.

1019
01:18:35,140 --> 01:18:37,480
We'll vote at the Cyprus Creek Church.

1020
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:38,540
Okay.

1021
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:41,180
Now, everybody is all at the Community Center.

1022
01:18:42,220 --> 01:18:44,640
I just read this different from our backup.

1023
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,980
So I want to make sure that that's clear.

1024
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,180
So let's, if you indulge me, let's go through this carefully.

1025
01:18:53,180 --> 01:18:55,180
so that we are all in the same page.

1026
01:18:56,900 --> 01:19:04,860
So why have on November the 8th, 2016 Hay County polling places

1027
01:19:04,860 --> 01:19:07,820
from 7 a.m. to 7 a.m.

1028
01:19:08,380 --> 01:19:08,820
It's,

1029
01:19:11,060 --> 01:19:13,160
you get to the same market associations.

1030
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:14,840
I don't, I don't see any changes

1031
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,100
to what you've had traditionally been done there.

1032
01:19:17,180 --> 01:19:20,820
Choice for a long time, correct me if I'm wrong there,

1033
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:21,940
but I don't see it.

1034
01:19:21,940 --> 01:19:29,720
Okay, if you, sorry I should have bought another one, but 333 used to be 335, as far as the

1035
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:30,860
Wembley Community Center.

1036
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:38,200
So we're not using first Baptist Church in Wembley and moving 333 to the Community Center

1037
01:19:38,740 --> 01:19:42,760
and moving 335 to the Cypress Creek Church.

1038
01:19:43,220 --> 01:19:47,780
We haven't used Cypress Creek Church in the course 337 is the same.

1039
01:19:47,780 --> 01:19:53,920
is that the VFW pose where it's been for a long time, so just restake that clearly

1040
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:59,940
joys where the records clear for the Clark and and clear for the public.

1041
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,960
Public because it is different than what's in our, in our backed up. And if you don't have our backed up, in front of you, what we have right here is 33, first Baptist church in Wimberley, we have 335 Wimberley Community Center. And we have 337, they have WPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

1042
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:38,280
I would like the next one, I would like the next one, why three, three, three, and why the

1043
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:46,600
bachelor's church facility lack of a better description was a working, and we feel

1044
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,700
that it would work better at the community center.

1045
01:20:48,940 --> 01:20:59,940
For most people, three, three, three that would be a, although very slight that would be

1046
01:20:59,940 --> 01:21:01,740
We'll go through that a little bit, Joyce, please.

1047
01:21:02,380 --> 01:21:05,420
Well, again, it was, I'm sorry.

1048
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,560
I provided the backup and apparently

1049
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,240
sent the wrong polling list to our office

1050
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,320
and I apologize for that.

1051
01:21:13,740 --> 01:21:17,220
But the change that has actually been made is

1052
01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:20,800
333 was first Baptist Church in Wimbling.

1053
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,200
Has been changed to the Wimbling Community Center.

1054
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,660
It's within the boundary lines of precinct 333,

1055
01:21:27,660 --> 01:21:30,020
which probably is what we should have done.

1056
01:21:30,180 --> 01:21:31,800
So why would we come on here changing?

1057
01:21:31,860 --> 01:21:32,600
Why would we change it?

1058
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,920
And it's because we're working towards,

1059
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,160
I think, both centers in our county.

1060
01:21:38,900 --> 01:21:40,920
And we have to be live with technology,

1061
01:21:42,820 --> 01:21:44,780
and unfortunately, in the wood creek area,

1062
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:49,160
the Baptist Church, we are unable to get online.

1063
01:21:49,660 --> 01:21:52,600
Use our cell phones to call into the office.

1064
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,360
The reception is not very,

1065
01:21:57,420 --> 01:22:26,340
So anybody that lives there knows this, I'm on AT&T for example, once you get to that section of the parkway, and in particular, if you go into the parking lot of the first Baptist church, you rarely, it's ever been able to get any type of internet service for cell phone service in that area until you get up on the hill going towards the park.

1066
01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:35,360
towards a mountain crest and skyline, or you go the other way, get over towards a closer to the

1067
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:40,920
hair salon and those areas down 12, and that area before you dip again into Cyprus Creek,

1068
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,980
where you lose service before you come back up a few hundred feet and pick it up again

1069
01:22:45,980 --> 01:22:51,180
throughout the rest of the town. I'm going in there, so there's a better, better, more consistent

1070
01:22:51,180 --> 01:22:57,400
technology opportunity at the community center, and then we'll find ourselves in at the church,

1071
01:22:57,660 --> 01:23:02,760
the first Baptist church there, and we're really all park-wise that's what we're saying, right?

1072
01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:03,220
Correct.

1073
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:09,840
And it also, I think, will better serve being closer to the citizens, you know, actually in

1074
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:16,780
335 instead of taking them to the end of their boundary lines at the community center.

1075
01:23:16,940 --> 01:23:20,100
Let's face it in Wimberly, they all go to the community center anyway.

1076
01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:21,680
You're my nose with any of that.

1077
01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:40,840
Yeah, and we're definitely going to do a best of already, you know, I will visit with any of everybody I know and women lead a notified papers and you know, have them put it on, you know, their social media as far as prioritizations, but that we've made this change and hopefully it will serve us all better.

1078
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:50,040
333, Wimbley means January 335, Cyprus Creek Church, 337, BFW, I'll take it for a road Wimbley.

1079
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:50,760
That's correct.

1080
01:23:51,540 --> 01:23:55,820
And that will be posted on our Hayes County website as well.

1081
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,180
And again, I apologize for providing you a wrong list.

1082
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,240
I need a motion to accept.

1083
01:24:06,020 --> 01:24:08,580
Anybody else have any modifications or changes?

1084
01:24:13,300 --> 01:24:18,920
I'll make a motion to accept the polling places in which Ms. Count has presented here in court today.

1085
01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:26,800
We will make the appropriate changes to the listed back up in post-phos on our internet sites and what to sign on me.

1086
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:32,200
And I make sure that the public is aware of those changes.

1087
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,740
It's second. Motion second. Thank you for the discussion.

1088
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,020
British police is seeing none hearing none. Please call roll.

1089
01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:41,940
Yes. Yes.

1090
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:42,760
Yes.

1091
01:24:43,020 --> 01:24:43,020
Yes.

1092
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,460
Thank you, Ms. Count. Thank you, George.

1093
01:24:51,620 --> 01:24:58,820
Okay. Now I see that I've been asked to open the workshop by Dan Wegmiller number 26 next.

1094
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,000
The webinar you have.

1095
01:25:00,820 --> 01:25:04,620
Thank you, Judge, Commissioner, and stand-and-wake, Miller, with specialised, but we owe that.

1096
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,960
Workshops hosted by Dan Whitmiller, Hayes County's Finance for the Advisor and Bill Herzog,

1097
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:14,940
Peace County, Auditor, Regarding, Peace County, President Bond financing, and projected tax revenue.

1098
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:23,480
Now, thank you, Judge. The item before you was requested to discuss bottom capacity

1099
01:25:23,480 --> 01:25:29,100
to give you, I think, a framework as you move through the process of working out projects and elements

1100
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:36,900
to put on a potential bond election, Bill Herzog and I discussed various aspects.

1101
01:25:37,340 --> 01:25:45,960
Our role is to forecast forward what the tax rate impact, if any, would be on a certain

1102
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:46,900
level of capacity.

1103
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:55,000
In this exercise, we looked at 250 million as the potential capacity over what time frame

1104
01:25:55,000 --> 01:26:02,920
you'll be able to possibly issue up to $250 million dollars and what were the assumptions.

1105
01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:11,200
What we looked at doing was we forecasted tax base growth over the next three years at

1106
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,880
a level of just over 11.5 percent per year.

1107
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:21,140
That is about three and a half percent below your average over the last two years.

1108
01:26:21,140 --> 01:26:28,240
or yes, below that, what you've experienced over the last two years, fiscal 17 is projected

1109
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:37,060
just over 15% tax-based growth. So looking in the near term, using just over 11 and a half percent

1110
01:26:37,060 --> 01:26:44,960
is, you know, probably realistic. If not slightly conservative based on the last two years and

1111
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,680
to see what's developing around the county.

1112
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:52,960
Starting in 2021, we applied a tax base growth of just 4%.

1113
01:26:53,820 --> 01:26:58,500
That would be one of the lowest levels, obviously met by the county in quite some time.

1114
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,220
So, looking across the capacity analysis,

1115
01:27:04,060 --> 01:27:08,380
we looked at how quickly with those assumptions in tax base growth

1116
01:27:08,380 --> 01:27:11,000
could we issue $250 million?

1117
01:27:12,780 --> 01:27:21,160
We forecast over 2017-18 and 19 that you could issue the entirety of a $250 million bond

1118
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:21,620
election.

1119
01:27:22,380 --> 01:27:31,580
In this exercise, we looked at 100 million being issued in 2017-75 million in 2018 and 2019.

1120
01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:35,980
Again, we're not getting into specifics of projects or project types.

1121
01:27:36,140 --> 01:27:39,580
These are unlimited tax bonds issued by the county.

1122
01:27:39,580 --> 01:27:45,580
So it can come from any type of proposition that you put forth.

1123
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,400
In your skin, in your forecast, and did you keep the tax rate the same?

1124
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:50,400
Yes, exactly.

1125
01:27:51,020 --> 01:27:51,680
Yes sir.

1126
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:57,140
So what we did based on this scenario was first to see, could we maintain the tax rate?

1127
01:27:57,440 --> 01:28:02,880
And within this amount, we could maintain the tax rate at its current INS tax rate level.

1128
01:28:03,700 --> 01:28:09,580
We are assuming interest rates for the first issue of 4% next year's bond issue.

1129
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:15,500
That would be roughly 85 basis points over where we would project that you saw sell today.

1130
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:24,560
We projected 2018 and 19 at just under 5% which would be one of the highest levels that

1131
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,740
you sold out over the last probably 12 to 15 years.

1132
01:28:28,380 --> 01:28:31,800
So that's really fairly conservative number as well.

1133
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:38,180
So I think the overall snapshot that we looked at was could you within a reasonable timeframe

1134
01:28:38,180 --> 01:28:46,680
probably three to five years, issue up to $250 million and supported under a existing tax rate.

1135
01:28:47,020 --> 01:28:48,820
And the answer is yes.

1136
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:55,400
We also did what I did is look back at the 2008 information.

1137
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:10,140
And if you decided to move forward with a bond election, August 26th of 2008, there's a document presented a court that was used in a lot of the public information which would be used again.

1138
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:23,140
We would break down again that tax rate debt issuance and provide the data to support based on the numbers you all come up with, you know, total bond issuance.

1139
01:29:23,140 --> 01:29:29,560
But as with that scenario, what Bill and I have been doing for a number of years, none of

1140
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,580
us is any good if we can't issue the bonds to fund the projects.

1141
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:39,460
So we try to bring a balance between conservatism but realistic look at the numbers so

1142
01:29:39,460 --> 01:29:40,440
we don't under-sheet.

1143
01:29:40,940 --> 01:29:47,960
And as I mentioned last time I was in court, the last pass through bond issue along with

1144
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:55,000
the red bond election, you came in quite a ways under the projections. Back then, the

1145
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:59,980
past through program was projected to have a one-cent tax rate impact. That means that

1146
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,060
That the reimbursements were going to cover the project cost, but interest would be supported somewhat

1147
01:30:07,060 --> 01:30:15,780
by the county. The red bond portion, the county portion was projected to be a 3.15 cent impact.

1148
01:30:16,220 --> 01:30:24,290
Both of those numbers you've come in under. And so that's what the look of Bill and I have taken to this analysis is to be

1149
01:30:24,290 --> 01:30:32,450
It's our good to look at the numbers and build as much flexibility to get this good projects

1150
01:30:32,450 --> 01:30:37,910
rolling for learning drilling, but also to be able to meet the forecast and estimates.

1151
01:30:38,410 --> 01:30:45,930
So at this point, that's a summary of what Bill and I covered was could you support a program

1152
01:30:45,930 --> 01:30:50,750
of us to $250 million under the current tax rate structure and the answer is yes.

1153
01:30:51,790 --> 01:30:53,390
Questions from Court?

1154
01:30:56,090 --> 01:31:05,830
Where is our standing currently as we're evaluating in many different ways from the market,

1155
01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:11,570
different rating institutions, et cetera?

1156
01:31:13,630 --> 01:31:16,410
What is our basic standing today?

1157
01:31:16,410 --> 01:31:24,850
Now, I know our on rating like our credit rating has to continue to improve over the past

1158
01:31:25,370 --> 01:31:25,990
decade.

1159
01:31:26,510 --> 01:31:26,830
That's right.

1160
01:31:28,250 --> 01:31:35,430
Can we talk about that some and what that means and just so that there's some clarity

1161
01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:44,070
of the best of the hand the exact position of the court, I should say the county at this

1162
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:44,850
point time.

1163
01:31:44,850 --> 01:31:49,170
and also I'd like you to tell why I'm doing this in that move.

1164
01:31:50,430 --> 01:31:59,530
Yes sir, the bond rating agencies look at each dead issuance that you move forward and take to the marketplace.

1165
01:32:00,330 --> 01:32:05,790
They assign a bond rating which is essentially your credit score to be used by investors.

1166
01:32:06,150 --> 01:32:12,030
It's great feedback to you all to see how you're being judged as a credit score is used to individual.

1167
01:32:12,030 --> 01:32:20,610
But the ultimate purpose of that credit rating is to show you to show investors what the credit

1168
01:32:20,610 --> 01:32:28,510
strength or weaknesses of an entity is and its broad base is looking from a state-to-state level.

1169
01:32:28,930 --> 01:32:36,890
A rating for a Hayes County should be the same reflection as a county and Virginia from an investor

1170
01:32:36,890 --> 01:32:41,830
same point because these investors are buying, especially when you're selling large blocks of bonds,

1171
01:32:42,490 --> 01:32:47,750
you're selling to major insurance funds or different types of funds that just care about

1172
01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:55,290
credit quality. The rating that is looked at takes into account the economy, the financial

1173
01:32:55,290 --> 01:33:01,430
position or financial performance. It looks at the management of the county and then ultimately

1174
01:33:01,430 --> 01:33:08,230
the debt position. The debt position is weighted 10% of the overall rating. The reason they apply

1175
01:33:08,230 --> 01:33:15,510
that rating is not every state issues debt in the same manner. In Texas, for example, school

1176
01:33:15,510 --> 01:33:20,890
districts, county cities, there's much more debt floated on the local level, where other states

1177
01:33:20,890 --> 01:33:26,690
may issue debt from a state level or a state bond bank, and so the local levels don't appear to

1178
01:33:26,690 --> 01:33:35,530
as much debt. The other piece of that is growth areas is if they don't address capital needs

1179
01:33:35,530 --> 01:33:41,950
and capital infrastructure, they may have a low debt burden, but they may have a high

1180
01:33:41,950 --> 01:33:48,590
liability in what's not being adjusted or developed to meet the demands of a growing area.

1181
01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:53,810
So when they look at the rating, they look at the financial performance, which is fund balance,

1182
01:33:53,810 --> 01:34:01,390
which is sales tax growth, which is property tax and property tax-based growth, they look at trends.

1183
01:34:02,230 --> 01:34:12,190
They look at policies that you put into place such as general fund balance policies to maintain minimum levels and your ability and your consistency and meeting that.

1184
01:34:12,470 --> 01:34:20,010
They look at your management, management is an assessment of, are you looking at what your needs are,

1185
01:34:20,010 --> 01:34:25,110
are you addressing those needs? Are you addressing needs? Are you addressing once? How do

1186
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:32,850
you balance that? They look at, pay as you go, debt versus cash, debt should not be the solution

1187
01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:40,650
to every program and need and obviously you all know that better than I do. And then ultimately

1188
01:34:40,650 --> 01:34:49,070
the economy and the economy, Texas and this region has had a very strong economy. I think

1189
01:34:49,070 --> 01:34:58,830
even through 2008 when the last bonds were approved, we took caution into the issuance of that program.

1190
01:34:59,110 --> 01:34:59,930
And that's part of the man.

1191
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:16,300
Management assessment. Just because you get dead authorized and still have to manage the building of the projects and the issuance of the debt and delivering the targets. So you're bomb rating as it stands. It has improved over the last five to six years.

1192
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:28,960
And you sit at AA, the AA rating, which is two notches from the natural AAA, which is the highest rating. There are ten rungs on that ladder, and you're essentially at the eighth run from the top.

1193
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,620
The best position to be in is higher.

1194
01:35:34,500 --> 01:35:39,320
So, again, they, the rating agencies, when they look at the rating, they assign the rating,

1195
01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:42,160
they're done from an independent standpoint.

1196
01:35:42,980 --> 01:35:50,600
An example is when they do come down to tour or visit, you can't even buy a lunch.

1197
01:35:50,600 --> 01:36:00,580
They have very strict limitations on keeping an independent viewpoint and making sure there's

1198
01:36:00,580 --> 01:36:04,300
no gray area as far as where their leaning is.

1199
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:12,380
So when you look at a bond program, we always look at will there be a negative impact to

1200
01:36:12,380 --> 01:36:14,500
your credit because you're borrowing more money.

1201
01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:29,860
The fact that you've planned for it, the fact that you can pay for it, the fact that you take a measure to approach to how you may issue debt is what we look at and communicate and what the rating agencies look at.

1202
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:37,880
And currently we have two ratings, two different viewpoints that they want to provide investors to feedback.

1203
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:53,760
Okay, let me ask this question, is there a difference in bonding infrastructure, roads, bridges, and assets such as buildings and fixtures, is there a difference there?

1204
01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:01,460
The project matter. Yes, absolutely. Projects matter. Project elements matter.

1205
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:10,680
You know, they don't necessarily judge what your projects are to a degree.

1206
01:37:11,500 --> 01:37:18,180
But if you work to start being an excessive in debt, for elements that may not be essential

1207
01:37:18,180 --> 01:37:27,520
Or in raising your debt levels in the process, they're going to look at that and they will probably

1208
01:37:28,380 --> 01:37:35,600
assess that in their management and their debt position if you're doing nothing in

1209
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:36,120
small parts.

1210
01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:43,740
We say a lot of ball parts while your breadway infrastructure is becoming a liability too.

1211
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:46,620
Thank you.

1212
01:37:46,820 --> 01:37:55,560
An important piece of information that I know I've had a lot of conversations with people

1213
01:37:55,560 --> 01:38:03,760
that I represent about that he went over down in your description of different processes

1214
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,980
and checks and balances that I think is important.

1215
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:22,560
There is a process or an assessment that we go through prior to each issuance that is made

1216
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:30,880
by ultimately made by the commissioners court on behalf of the county and whatever project

1217
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:36,740
that we're dealing with, people go out and they go, you talk about the projects and

1218
01:38:36,740 --> 01:38:43,560
And the best estimates of that you can base that information off of give people the clearest

1219
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:49,620
picture that you can, what that means to our community, from a financial standpoint,

1220
01:38:52,500 --> 01:38:55,960
and from a public safety infrastructure standpoint,

1221
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:05,000
but it's an important piece of what I know

1222
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:09,700
do every time and how these things are managed. It will assess that. Get that just

1223
01:39:09,700 --> 01:39:16,060
this and after November the 8th or 7th, whenever that date may be. Get that just

1224
01:39:16,060 --> 01:39:32,640
this and I have a free for all of obligated or non-assessed debt insurance. Those are in

1225
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:42,560
constantly being monitored, not only should you issue, but what you had issued are their

1226
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:48,840
opportunities for reform and change within those issuance that ultimately will be in

1227
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:52,680
the interest with the credit and the taxpayer of case counties.

1228
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:59,600
Absolutely, one interesting aspect of the issuance process is, number one, when we go out

1229
01:39:59,600 --> 01:39:59,980
I think it's different.

1230
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:09,140
Information for educational purposes to explain what the impact or no impact is. That's in essence a contract with the voters as well.

1231
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:20,980
So when we go to issue each subsequent piece of debt, we've got to make sure that we're saying within the framework of what the original documents told voters and residents it was going to have the impact.

1232
01:40:20,980 --> 01:40:25,480
In addition to that, once the debt is issued, when you go and apply for a new rating,

1233
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:32,660
that new rating is not only assigned to your new debt, it's reviewing the existing debt that you

1234
01:40:32,660 --> 01:40:37,500
have outstanding. So those bond holders, when they bought the original bonds at a A plus,

1235
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:43,820
and now you've been upgraded to AA, those bond holders are actually in a better position.

1236
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:50,280
But with that better position by getting that higher rating does for you all, as we're also looking at

1237
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:54,400
And since 2008, we've already been able to refinance to

1238
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:55,300
lower interest rates.

1239
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,360
Some of those early bonds that were issued as part of

1240
01:40:58,840 --> 01:40:59,820
the last election.

1241
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:04,280
So this is constantly moving and changing and being

1242
01:41:05,060 --> 01:41:09,700
being, again, managed and assessed for the

1243
01:41:09,700 --> 01:41:13,340
best known through a long term of a physical strength

1244
01:41:13,340 --> 01:41:17,100
of the county that is obviously ultimately the taxpayer.

1245
01:41:17,900 --> 01:41:18,260
Absolutely.

1246
01:41:18,260 --> 01:41:26,400
And that's why when you look at the interest cost of a bond program, it's going to be moving throughout the life.

1247
01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:29,300
And we'll move up, won't increase over the life.

1248
01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:39,760
But there are multiple opportunities to see it lower, or pay it off in advance, like you all have taken opportunity from time to time to pay off pieces of debt early.

1249
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:47,300
So, it's a constant process that before we issue one piece, we're looking to see what existing

1250
01:41:47,300 --> 01:41:48,380
opportunities are.

1251
01:41:48,440 --> 01:41:50,180
You could probably find that in your house.

1252
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:50,720
Absolutely.

1253
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:51,580
That's the same thing.

1254
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:52,820
It's the same thing.

1255
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,040
You don't refinance your house every year.

1256
01:41:55,280 --> 01:42:00,500
You look at targeted opportunities when it's the most bang for your buck and most beneficial

1257
01:42:00,500 --> 01:42:01,100
to you.

1258
01:42:01,540 --> 01:42:06,760
IRS actually restricts you as well as to how many federal tax law restricts how many times

1259
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:08,180
you can refinance.

1260
01:42:08,180 --> 01:42:12,080
So when you do that, you want to make sure you do it at the right point.

1261
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:19,500
In your assessment of our, and I want to give Mr. Herzl having an opportunity to speak

1262
01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:28,780
as well, and I think most people overwhelmingly, most people in this county that look at

1263
01:42:28,780 --> 01:42:30,420
these types of issues,

1264
01:42:33,020 --> 01:42:37,120
it's extremely complicated and it's fluid, it's changing.

1265
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:44,020
all the time, particularly in regards to a program like our past

1266
01:42:44,020 --> 01:42:51,400
suit, financing program. That is based off of, you know, quarterly payments,

1267
01:42:52,140 --> 01:42:59,320
back to the county, off of two a certain maximum principle amount that the

1268
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:09,060
But Hayes County is paying interest on and how those payments are made based off of traffic

1269
01:43:09,060 --> 01:43:17,020
counts coming into those assets, those improved projects, whatever those meant to be.

1270
01:43:17,340 --> 01:43:27,330
Now, we've forecasted in model to the best of our ability, you know, seven and a weight prior

1271
01:43:27,330 --> 01:43:37,330
initially prior to asking for the 210 million dollar bond that people overwhelmingly supported.

1272
01:43:39,530 --> 01:43:43,330
And I continue assessment and management of that.

1273
01:43:45,130 --> 01:43:46,970
That's constantly changing.

1274
01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:56,490
So it's very easy to take different snapshots at different points in time.

1275
01:43:57,730 --> 01:44:12,690
And so I think there's some honest, just misunderstanding amongst some people on how that is actually working and how it is being paid back into our county.

1276
01:44:13,770 --> 01:44:23,990
Now, I won't speculate on others, but I think for the most part, that's an honest assessment of trying to understand and capture something that is constantly changing.

1277
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:30,070
moving our traffic counts, for example, going into those projects, on a monthly basis, on a

1278
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:42,030
quarterly basis, are changing. So therefore, it has an impact on our payback. But generally speaking,

1279
01:44:45,300 --> 01:44:51,260
everything that I've ever, as somebody that was here then in here now and has kind of lived

1280
01:44:51,260 --> 01:44:58,500
This experience of a tool created by our state government in order to meet a need on high

1281
01:44:58,500 --> 01:44:59,940
changing growth areas.

1282
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,460
And in different parts of our state, at a time when they weren't able to identify direct sources

1283
01:45:09,460 --> 01:45:23,040
to manage those assets properly. That we have been ahead of schedule in what we forecasted in 2008.

1284
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,900
Some projects, as I understand, like the Highway 290 project,

1285
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:37,920
we're receiving more funds than what we actually spent on that project in construction costs,

1286
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:52,290
because the way in which the deal was managed and negotiated with the DOT and so can we get a good

1287
01:45:55,250 --> 01:46:00,930
assessment of, you know, the accuracy over and under of our forecast, how that has worked.

1288
01:46:01,930 --> 01:46:06,530
I mean, I know there are people who because it was so kind of new at the time.

1289
01:46:07,170 --> 01:46:11,810
There's people that have broken concerns about us even receiving payments back from the state of Texas.

1290
01:46:13,250 --> 01:46:16,550
We have been receiving significant payments from state of Texas.

1291
01:46:16,910 --> 01:46:20,630
That is a new revenue source into the counties.

1292
01:46:21,770 --> 01:46:25,990
overall budget. So when you're looking at sales tax, when you're looking at that

1293
01:46:25,990 --> 01:46:33,150
form taxes, fees and fines, traditional revenue sources of county government, this

1294
01:46:33,150 --> 01:46:42,470
is a different revenue source. That is not that you traditionally do not find in a county

1295
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:49,610
government budget. That makes us very different than most counties in the two hundred

1296
01:46:49,610 --> 01:46:52,090
of a default county's letter in the state of Texas.

1297
01:46:53,810 --> 01:46:56,070
And I don't think there's a right of all the answering here on it.

1298
01:46:56,230 --> 01:47:01,830
I just want the basis of what has occurred and what has happened and what we forecasted in

1299
01:47:01,830 --> 01:47:03,370
how that is working.

1300
01:47:04,150 --> 01:47:11,270
I think from understanding of the past through program, it was an effort I think by text.

1301
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:18,810
To allow local entities to move their projects up and to step forward and those that were willing

1302
01:47:18,810 --> 01:47:23,490
to issue the debt and get re-inferred, sorry state hypothesis on the state highway system.

1303
01:47:23,930 --> 01:47:27,610
And the reimbursements were not based on principle and interest costs.

1304
01:47:27,890 --> 01:47:31,270
The reimbursements were based on project costs at inflated values.

1305
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:37,670
And depending on when you got into the project, or got into the program, sometimes I let you add

1306
01:47:37,670 --> 01:47:45,630
a longer term inflationary number, and as the program set out there, that inflationary element was reduced.

1307
01:47:45,630 --> 01:47:52,150
they didn't let you. The original discussion was, you got reimbursed for what that project

1308
01:47:52,150 --> 01:47:56,130
would have cost the state when they got to it on their timeline. Well, those are very

1309
01:47:56,130 --> 01:48:02,130
long-term timelines, so they had high inflationary numbers and so that increased your reimbursement.

1310
01:48:03,470 --> 01:48:09,170
The way the reimbursements come in and their managed today, and that's why I'm looking

1311
01:48:09,170 --> 01:48:16,230
at August 26th, 2008 document that you all represented and was using the public information

1312
01:48:16,230 --> 01:48:22,730
meetings, it was anticipated that we would have two series of passery issues sold at five

1313
01:48:22,730 --> 01:48:31,670
and five and three-quarter percent. We actually sold four issues of believe that were all

1314
01:48:31,670 --> 01:48:37,670
under four percent. So we have the interest rates savings there. The reimbursement never changed.

1315
01:48:37,670 --> 01:48:41,470
that's based off the forecast that we told people that we would do.

1316
01:48:41,650 --> 01:48:42,210
Absolutely.

1317
01:48:42,870 --> 01:48:46,750
And so the creation of the password program

1318
01:48:46,750 --> 01:48:50,870
was, can you create costs in your own building of the project?

1319
01:48:51,150 --> 01:48:56,050
But also when you're able to issue the debt at lower interest costs,

1320
01:48:56,350 --> 01:49:00,050
you're reducing your element of costs on the bond program.

1321
01:49:00,670 --> 01:49:04,590
So the bottom line, the number from the state was fixed.

1322
01:49:04,590 --> 01:49:10,470
Now that later on in other password programs they started changing that they wanted to share

1323
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:13,130
and benefit if the project came in under.

1324
01:49:13,570 --> 01:49:19,450
So early programs like yours, you got the full benefit of event you bought Bill Cheever,

1325
01:49:19,710 --> 01:49:23,490
event you saved money, you were still getting reimbursed the same amount.

1326
01:49:24,070 --> 01:49:28,830
I also an important thing is it could cause more to build and they took that risk.

1327
01:49:29,110 --> 01:49:29,690
That's right.

1328
01:49:29,950 --> 01:49:30,270
That's right.

1329
01:49:30,270 --> 01:49:36,030
So I think, well, I want to correct that, because I, this is, this is very,

1330
01:49:36,030 --> 01:49:42,190
finally important that, that, that, that we're, we're as accurate as possible with

1331
01:49:42,190 --> 01:49:46,810
this jot, I think I understand what your statement just was, but under the past

1332
01:49:46,810 --> 01:49:53,490
through agreements, part of the partnership, if you will, is why we've been able to

1333
01:49:53,490 --> 01:49:57,930
reap the benefits of being early on this of, of coming under budget, if you will,

1334
01:49:57,930 --> 01:49:59,910
getting refunded for more money.

1335
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:16,920
What we would up under current conditions and current contracts that they're negotiating is that is that the county was responsible and remains responsible for cost overruns in those contracts.

1336
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:30,340
So, set a simply stated, if a project in that agreement was $10 million for a particular project,

1337
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,900
which is kind of close to what $290 was, I don't remember exactly.

1338
01:50:34,940 --> 01:50:44,400
For $10 million of reimbursement, based off of the estimated $10 million cost to make those improvements,

1339
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:49,740
which is reason why, no, it's been in the news a lot lately, is the reason why we have the

1340
01:50:49,740 --> 01:50:55,980
soldiers and the Senate on lanes down to 90 today, is because of what was done during that

1341
01:50:55,980 --> 01:50:59,000
program and that process.

1342
01:51:01,140 --> 01:51:06,800
That if we were the way we set up, if we came in under $10 million

1343
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:11,760
construction in the soft costs associated with that, say that was $8 million.

1344
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:19,600
Then the state still had an obligation, so does have an obligation, do pay us a

1345
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:29,340
bag of 10 million dollars of those money. At the same time, part of the risk associated

1346
01:51:29,340 --> 01:51:34,920
with what the county did, which state taxes did, if that project had cost $12 million.

1347
01:51:36,180 --> 01:51:41,860
Then the county would be responsible for the difference of that 10 to 12.

1348
01:51:42,460 --> 01:51:44,680
Is that exactly how it was broken down?

1349
01:51:44,980 --> 01:51:46,360
I believe that.

1350
01:51:49,740 --> 01:51:57,400
Now we were fortunate that for multiple different reasons that we've been able to be on the good side of that deal.

1351
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:04,500
But I want to be clear to everybody exactly how that was designed and set up and how that was.

1352
01:52:04,500 --> 01:52:12,340
negotiate, like any partnership, there is risk and reward and liability on both sides of the...

1353
01:52:12,340 --> 01:52:18,180
I think it's important as you mentioned, this is all geared off project costs.

1354
01:52:18,420 --> 01:52:18,700
Yes, sir.

1355
01:52:18,900 --> 01:52:26,540
It was a year of principal and interest of debt, specifically statutory limits on text art

1356
01:52:26,540 --> 01:52:31,960
didn't allow them to, I believe it's that short, Mike Weaver can pray to speak better than I can.

1357
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:40,140
They had to send, their reimbursements were engaged off of project costs and their future costs to text up.

1358
01:52:40,420 --> 01:52:41,860
They did not have to pay us interest.

1359
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:42,640
They did not.

1360
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:50,760
But the savings that Mr. Colle is referencing as to the ability to bring a project under budget.

1361
01:52:50,980 --> 01:52:56,520
And that's why there are some projects around the state, passenger projects that never moved forward.

1362
01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:04,280
Because, you know, there was something found on the pathway, there was something that came in that people didn't realize.

1363
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:08,120
So you had the ability to say, you know, stop, let's not report.

1364
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:14,920
But the more you're able to create savings-wise on projects, that's what helped offset the interest cost.

1365
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:38,840
Offset interest cost and in addition, put the county in the state and a position to develop new work to be done on the state system, which we did in our third

1366
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:45,780
The mission is to be probably remember after what our third partnership agreement with the state.

1367
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:53,900
So I think that's essential for people to understand it and you can come down on one side of the other.

1368
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:55,900
Whether you thought that was a good idea or not.

1369
01:53:56,960 --> 01:54:00,160
But those are the facts of the situation.

1370
01:54:00,860 --> 01:54:08,820
What is also a factor in the situation is that as we started to come out on the opposite side,

1371
01:54:08,820 --> 01:54:18,830
of side of that. But the state was curious to see if we would renegotiate that piece of the

1372
01:54:18,830 --> 01:54:25,130
deal, which obviously we asked them if they were going to renegotiate the liability portion

1373
01:54:25,130 --> 01:54:32,160
if we run over a budget, they said no. So we maintained their agreements the way the way we had it

1374
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:41,840
and that has worked out. Better than forecast than what we had told people in 2008 and what we

1375
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,520
go through these different years and different issuance.

1376
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:48,960
I think the credit for going back to you when you're original points, the credit perspective

1377
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:50,820
is interesting too.

1378
01:54:51,420 --> 01:54:58,620
The revenue of 133 million that tech stock reinforces you, the rating agencies deduct that

1379
01:54:58,620 --> 01:54:59,920
on what they view is you're

1380
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:12,580
About sending debt obligation, because they recognize that it is a partnership, and that the state is obligated, contractually, and through the bond documents, they are a party to your debt.

1381
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:26,440
And so, the rating agency, staring forward is in-fetched. Once you open the roadway, once text.takes it back, they will deduct that amount from your outstanding debt when they look at your debt burden.

1382
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:30,820
Because it's not being paid locally, it's being paid out of state dollars.

1383
01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:38,460
And if that hadn't occurred, if that hadn't occurred, then our bond rating rightfully so would reflect that liability.

1384
01:55:39,660 --> 01:55:46,200
And it does up until the point the road opens, once the road opens, and your reimbursements start coming in,

1385
01:55:46,340 --> 01:55:48,100
because you still got to deliver the project.

1386
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:53,660
So it's a very specific timeline, but at this point that's exactly what happens.

1387
01:55:53,660 --> 01:56:01,840
I wish, you know, other elements, as I found review board documents with reflect, that there is

1388
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:07,540
another revenue coming in because that's a significant piece of money coming into the county for debt that's not

1389
01:56:07,540 --> 01:56:07,860
rough enough.

1390
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:13,840
You'd be happy to know that in our high interest here, I signed a bill for the text dot for

1391
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,520
over two million dollars that will be coming in.

1392
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:23,920
So, as big as huge, they paid well, they paid time to make to everyone that I've heard.

1393
01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:31,880
So, I think it's important and in conclusion to my intentions of having these discussions

1394
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:37,000
to try to bring some clarity to the issue is it's important whether you're in business

1395
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:44,420
or government or man to man or family to family, it's important that what you have told

1396
01:56:44,420 --> 01:56:53,140
people, to the best of your ability at the time, that now having the perspective of history

1397
01:56:53,140 --> 01:57:00,260
and being able to look back and see if you, if you delivered, are came close to delivering

1398
01:57:00,260 --> 01:57:06,620
on what you advertised and told people did that occur.

1399
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:12,620
And the answer in our cases, undoubtedly yes, there's no dispute about that.

1400
01:57:13,460 --> 01:57:18,860
And then again, people individual citizens can judge that on their own merits and own knowledge.

1401
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:24,780
But that is just a fact of where we sit, where we were in 2007 to 2008.

1402
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:32,400
To where we are today in 2012, that's just a factor in mind.

1403
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:37,500
I believe the touch rate in a way was 4.56, built so far like that.

1404
01:57:37,900 --> 01:57:39,800
We're 4.67 today.

1405
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:52,500
So along with these other issues that we've talked about, so it's important that that's understood clearly by the people that we represent.

1406
01:57:54,380 --> 01:58:00,860
If I may, I just like to make a little point about, and I'm a little more familiar with this, because I live in the northern part of the county.

1407
01:58:00,860 --> 01:58:14,400
use U.S. Highway 290. In my correct thing, I was under the impression that the methods were being paid back for the 290 project were actually a head of schedule with payment back in that current.

1408
01:58:15,460 --> 01:58:16,180
We didn't pay it all.

1409
01:58:18,260 --> 01:58:28,100
So, projections we had for the increase need of that road has more than proven itself out of traffic counts, which is the way we were afraid that money.

1410
01:58:28,820 --> 01:58:34,820
And I believe, if I recall being on this court, we did pay off some debt early that didn't

1411
01:58:34,820 --> 01:58:37,220
include some of the funds that we received from.

1412
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:37,720
That's correct.

1413
01:58:38,020 --> 01:58:39,480
I'll have to save this money and interest.

1414
01:58:42,100 --> 01:58:42,760
Thank you.

1415
01:58:43,020 --> 01:58:50,480
I was going to take the opportunity to make a statement about them when I've known Dan since he was

1416
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:51,140
young man.

1417
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,020
His parents and family lived in Dripping Springs area.

1418
01:58:54,020 --> 01:58:59,460
I got to know Dan professionally early in his career as a school board member in different

1419
01:58:59,460 --> 01:59:03,160
experience in regard to bond issuance and finance.

1420
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:10,800
I would just had one personal question, I probably know the answer, but Dan, do you live

1421
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:11,380
in Hakes County?

1422
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,460
I currently I do not, but my parents do.

1423
01:59:15,260 --> 01:59:17,080
You did it one at a time.

1424
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:17,340
I did it one at a time.

1425
01:59:17,340 --> 01:59:17,880
I did it one at a time.

1426
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:18,560
Yes, sir.

1427
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:19,100
Okay.

1428
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:21,400
But move back.

1429
01:59:21,620 --> 01:59:22,700
I don't know about it.

1430
01:59:24,100 --> 01:59:26,160
Are you raised here?

1431
01:59:29,300 --> 01:59:29,760
The...

1432
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:30,580
What did...

1433
01:59:30,580 --> 01:59:34,560
What in these violent evaluations would I've read in the past lately?

1434
01:59:34,860 --> 01:59:40,100
The biggest liability, as identified in those reviews, was reports, has come from

1435
01:59:40,980 --> 01:59:48,700
the reflection of other agencies, as I recall predominantly school districts in our county.

1436
01:59:48,700 --> 01:59:51,160
I can't speak to you on that day.

1437
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,300
Yeah, when the credit agencies look at the

1438
01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:57,120
Deppard county, they're looking at Deppard and

1439
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:58,820
never resident, and I Deppard and

1440
01:59:58,820 --> 01:59:59,260
never the resident.

1441
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:13,220
It is largely reflected in the school district, because the school's, especially in this area, are not getting a lot of state assistance through the reimbursement on their debt.

1442
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:21,160
So, school districts carry quite a lot of, we all see the size and the needs the school districts have.

1443
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:25,240
So those are the, that's reflected in the counties over all

1444
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:29,960
Depperm because they look at what a resident pays in school, city,

1445
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:34,040
county, and special district taxes that may apply and from Depp.

1446
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:37,720
Mr. Herzard, do you want to say,

1447
02:00:37,980 --> 02:00:40,260
why don't you go up there so we can all see your pretty face?

1448
02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:43,680
I don't want to say, why does call me better?

1449
02:00:46,420 --> 02:00:49,540
Under the constitution of Mr. Herzard August,

1450
02:00:49,540 --> 02:00:56,500
an independent agent appointed hired by the District Judges is not the employee of the

1451
02:00:56,500 --> 02:01:00,900
Commissioner's Court correctly and that is part of the checks and balances that we

1452
02:01:00,900 --> 02:01:06,300
have in our system. So that him to be an independent observer and discipline in financial

1453
02:01:06,300 --> 02:01:08,100
matters. So Mr. Herzog, please.

1454
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:18,080
I just want to let the court know that they saw what Mr. Kohl said that we did have a meeting

1455
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:21,040
regarding the debt of the county.

1456
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:22,180
Who was in that meeting?

1457
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,900
My soul, my assistant, myself, David Crowell,

1458
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:27,280
and Sam Reyn.

1459
02:01:29,060 --> 02:01:31,340
And we did discuss the debt.

1460
02:01:31,820 --> 02:01:34,480
And all I said was that when you compare the cost

1461
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:36,440
to the roads, the project cost,

1462
02:01:37,140 --> 02:01:39,140
and the reimbursement from the state,

1463
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:41,480
you have to take into consideration the debt,

1464
02:01:41,580 --> 02:01:43,640
you just can't have those, that's all I said.

1465
02:01:44,500 --> 02:01:47,880
And then he was telling everyone that I said

1466
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:52,300
that the revenue wouldn't offset the debt payment.

1467
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:53,220
I never said that.

1468
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:54,760
I don't even actually know.

1469
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:56,660
I don't deny that or agree with it.

1470
02:01:56,860 --> 02:01:57,420
I don't know.

1471
02:01:57,600 --> 02:01:58,820
We'd have to do that calculation.

1472
02:01:59,420 --> 02:02:02,160
Matter of fact, Dan Wigg Miller's office would have to do that

1473
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:06,160
because it's complicated because we've done a lot of refundies.

1474
02:02:07,300 --> 02:02:11,080
I think on the past three, we've refunded four times, four different issues.

1475
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:15,840
And it becomes complicated because when you have a refunding of a past three,

1476
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:21,780
We may also have four or four other debts that we're refunding and they're all combined into one.

1477
02:02:22,020 --> 02:02:23,460
So you can't just look at that interest.

1478
02:02:23,660 --> 02:02:26,060
You have to break out the part that relates to the password.

1479
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:32,900
And that takes detail complicated board, which then when Miller's office would have to provide force.

1480
02:02:32,980 --> 02:02:34,280
And we'd be glad to do that.

1481
02:02:34,780 --> 02:02:38,620
But my statement to the court when I sent you the letter was,

1482
02:02:38,620 --> 02:02:52,320
I never agreed that I never said that the debt would be covered by the revenue, that the debt's going to exceed the revenue.

1483
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:55,740
I never said that because I didn't know what that number was.

1484
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:02,070
And that's it.

1485
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:03,020
That's it.

1486
02:03:03,020 --> 02:03:04,980
What has any questions regarding that?

1487
02:03:04,980 --> 02:03:11,540
I'd be glad to response, so since you don't have that number, I can't do that very well at all tonight.

1488
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:12,320
Could be right?

1489
02:03:12,500 --> 02:03:12,920
Could be wrong.

1490
02:03:12,980 --> 02:03:13,340
I don't know.

1491
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:14,300
I don't have that number.

1492
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:16,500
They'd be a complicated figure.

1493
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:22,940
I think Dan can attest it that there's a lot of calculations that would have to occur.

1494
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:28,800
And the other thing is, we never told the voters that it would cover the debt.

1495
02:03:29,220 --> 02:03:34,820
I mean, I don't know what that issue is anyway, but the fact is that they can also

1496
02:03:34,820 --> 02:03:40,380
I mean, I mean, I mean, you mean the interest or the death, when you make that statement.

1497
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:44,660
You said would it cover the death, you mean the interest?

1498
02:03:44,660 --> 02:03:45,420
The interest, Brian.

1499
02:03:45,740 --> 02:03:47,340
We never said it would it cover the interest.

1500
02:03:51,250 --> 02:03:56,370
Judge Ryan, just a question of cost, which will, and maybe Mr. Gerzard, or Mr. Red Miller, can help me

1501
02:03:56,370 --> 02:03:57,330
understand as a commissioner.

1502
02:03:58,750 --> 02:04:02,990
Now, we understand that the total reimbursement of the past through program should be about

1503
02:04:03,550 --> 02:04:04,270
133 million.

1504
02:04:04,710 --> 02:04:05,270
That's correct.

1505
02:04:06,030 --> 02:04:06,190
Okay.

1506
02:04:06,190 --> 02:04:12,530
So, over whatever period of time that is, that money will be applied against the debt

1507
02:04:12,530 --> 02:04:15,950
the county is issued for the projects and that is that correct.

1508
02:04:17,190 --> 02:04:23,310
So, whatever the circumstances I can't help would think that our taxpayers have received

1509
02:04:23,310 --> 02:04:29,970
$133 million worth of benefit from that partnership with the Texas Department of Transportation.

1510
02:04:30,710 --> 02:04:35,490
how it gets applied. I can't help but think that at some point it's going to be applied

1511
02:04:35,490 --> 02:04:41,550
against principle. Maybe it gives to interest. But it is 133 million dollars over a period

1512
02:04:41,550 --> 02:04:44,310
of time that is not responsible to be able to look at times.

1513
02:04:45,690 --> 02:04:50,350
And like the ambition, the projects came under budget. They were less than the interest

1514
02:04:50,350 --> 02:04:57,430
rate that we projected. However, in addition to that, we did full refunds that saved over

1515
02:04:57,430 --> 02:04:59,850
three million dollars of interest. So that dropped.

1516
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:06,960
So, again, it is easy enough for us to just go back and do those calculations?

1517
02:05:07,940 --> 02:05:14,840
I think one thing to point to that kind of gets lost in the reference to, does the state

1518
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:21,460
money's cover the debt? And when we say debt, debt is typically principle and interest.

1519
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:29,180
So, did the state money cover the debt or the principle amount? Well, the proposition for the passory

1520
02:05:29,180 --> 02:05:33,780
of financing was $148,225,000.

1521
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,960
The reimbursement was $133.79.

1522
02:05:37,780 --> 02:05:40,980
All the spreadsheets reflected that the level of reimbursement

1523
02:05:40,980 --> 02:05:43,140
is not equal to the project cost

1524
02:05:43,140 --> 02:05:46,080
because of the voted authorization now.

1525
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:50,920
So the numbers did not line up perfectly

1526
02:05:51,500 --> 02:05:55,440
because of how the projects were forecasted

1527
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:56,920
to be a future value.

1528
02:05:56,920 --> 02:06:05,840
the interest element of that wasn't, you know, the proposition itself didn't align

1529
02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:11,720
perfectly with the 133.7 because of how to stay calculated the reimbursement, but

1530
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:17,820
it was, it was disclosed each and every point in the proposition. The status of the

1531
02:06:17,820 --> 02:06:24,060
current interest cost of those bonds we could calculate based on what we've refunded

1532
02:06:24,060 --> 02:06:31,240
today to show what a total interest cost was. Back at that point, the projection on the

1533
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:40,580
pass through program was a total principle of an interest cost in the neighborhood of

1534
02:06:41,340 --> 02:06:48,660
269. So that would have been roughly 1309 of interest. We haven't been close to that because

1535
02:06:48,660 --> 02:06:52,160
that was based on five and a half and five and three-quarter percent.

1536
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:58,180
So I think the proposition, one thing that probably gets lost in that discussion is the proposition

1537
02:06:58,180 --> 02:07:04,220
voters voted on, specified a maximum amount to be issued for the Passive Program.

1538
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:12,620
And it's specified in all the literature that the reimbursement from the state was 133.7.

1539
02:07:13,180 --> 02:07:16,780
So when you look back at that, any assertions that,

1540
02:07:16,780 --> 02:07:20,020
You know, somehow it didn't come off in cover a lot.

1541
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:25,320
It was those two, the interest part of it was never aligned purely and it was more

1542
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:30,360
that the debt side to the principal that the projects were going to cost.

1543
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:37,500
Judge, I'm looking at the proposition language that Dan is referencing and it actually

1544
02:07:37,500 --> 02:07:49,280
authorized the issuance of 207,110,000 and then referenced 133,170, but important references that

1545
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:56,260
number has been up to, because there's obviously contractual thresholds that need to be met

1546
02:07:56,260 --> 02:08:03,340
for the reimbursement, and so it consistently in the literature that was disseminated by the

1547
02:08:03,340 --> 02:08:13,280
We referenced it as up to 133 million, 177,000, and specified that the county will be responsible for all interest costs.

1548
02:08:13,500 --> 02:08:18,740
So there was never a promise that the reimbursement would cover interest costs.

1549
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:20,360
In fact, it was quite the contrary.

1550
02:08:21,260 --> 02:08:27,340
As I understand it, by law, you have to stay in interest cost anyway, so that doesn't

1551
02:08:27,340 --> 02:08:29,820
want to specify enough situation.

1552
02:08:32,620 --> 02:08:36,580
I'd like to also add that when we're doing these forecasts,

1553
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:39,900
you're trying to predict

1554
02:08:39,900 --> 02:08:44,260
with this particular program, you're trying to predict future traffic counts and volumes,

1555
02:08:44,260 --> 02:08:54,520
which is extremely difficult to do in a county of our size and how it's fluid and constantly changing.

1556
02:08:54,540 --> 02:08:57,660
In other words, it's always moving in different now.

1557
02:08:57,940 --> 02:09:04,900
That being said, we have come in to understand and well above any of those forecasts.

1558
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:11,960
That we went out and told people about and how that would be done.

1559
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:18,340
We have come up to the good on those forecasts, which has accelerated the payments from the

1560
02:09:18,340 --> 02:09:18,780
same taxes.

1561
02:09:18,980 --> 02:09:23,700
You have a maximum annual or a minimum payment that the state has required to make the

1562
02:09:23,700 --> 02:09:26,080
regardless of those traffic counts.

1563
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:36,760
We have exceeded and what we forecasted here internally and publicly at the county.

1564
02:09:38,060 --> 02:09:41,780
And so now we have some history to go back on and look at.

1565
02:09:44,060 --> 02:09:47,980
You still can't perfectly project and forecast the future, of course.

1566
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:51,800
But we have that historical perspective now to the back of look on.

1567
02:09:51,940 --> 02:09:52,640
It's in measure.

1568
02:09:53,380 --> 02:09:57,420
How well we are measuring and forecasting that work.

1569
02:09:59,000 --> 02:09:59,980
And you guys please correct me.

1570
02:10:00,700 --> 02:10:11,420
We have been above those four cash, which means we're receiving money quicker from the state of Texas than we'll in water amounts, which means we're paying off those debts.

1571
02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:16,660
And the only thing though that revenue can be spent for as well on the ad is that we can't.

1572
02:10:16,660 --> 02:10:22,680
As much as I'm sure he'd like it, we can't put it in the sheriff's office. We can't put it in Jerry's Road and Bridge budget.

1573
02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:28,340
I mean, that is at its requirement, that money coming in must go and be used for those

1574
02:10:28,340 --> 02:10:28,680
reasons.

1575
02:10:30,380 --> 02:10:42,860
So we are ahead of schedule on that, you know, I will say that again, the system in which

1576
02:10:42,860 --> 02:10:47,680
we've designed and state taxes, predominantly led by, obviously led by state leadership

1577
02:10:47,680 --> 02:10:48,440
in the legislature,

1578
02:10:51,420 --> 02:10:54,760
in the current conditions here in central Texas and in case counting.

1579
02:10:56,460 --> 02:11:00,280
We take the tools that we're given and we do the best to try to maintain high levels

1580
02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:06,680
of public safety and opportunity in our community.

1581
02:11:11,620 --> 02:11:20,260
All that being said, again, it's important to know that we have exceeded those publicly public

1582
02:11:20,260 --> 02:11:27,800
commitments and expectations that we told people, and that is important, and that has allowed

1583
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:37,400
us also to do additional projects in our community that have brought higher levels of safety

1584
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:38,520
as well.

1585
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:46,220
Two aspects of that that we forget if we, those of us who built the house, go down and bar

1586
02:11:46,220 --> 02:11:52,880
money so we can start the house. And we pay interest on that money while we're building

1587
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:58,240
the house. It's called interim financing. Once that is completed, then we have a mortgage

1588
02:11:58,240 --> 02:12:05,480
on that. Well, it's sort of like that. We bought the money through funds to build the roads,

1589
02:12:05,700 --> 02:12:13,020
but we didn't get paid back until that road was complete and accepted. And so really a big factor

1590
02:12:13,020 --> 02:12:19,000
is the maintenance of that road. So once the state takes it, then they are responsible for maintaining

1591
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:25,120
that road. That's a tremendous debt burden. The state takes on for that road. I mean,

1592
02:12:25,180 --> 02:12:29,220
people say, well, why would we pay for it and then the state take it back? Well, you better be glad

1593
02:12:29,220 --> 02:12:36,900
they did because if we had had to maintain those roads, it would be an astronaut. And in addition,

1594
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:41,140
the cost of it, we would have waited not only the cost of public safety and economic development

1595
02:12:41,140 --> 02:12:47,140
opportunity mobility, if we would have waited 10, 20 years to make those improvements to

1596
02:12:47,140 --> 02:12:52,140
cost savings to the state of Texas for making those both of the inflationary savings

1597
02:12:52,140 --> 02:12:57,400
to the cost state of Texas of doing that now, then 10, 20 years from now, is a very real

1598
02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:01,520
cost as well. And I'll say at the end of the day, some of my colleagues has heard me say this

1599
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:07,700
and you can go through the complexity of grants, fines, fees, sales tax add grown taxes,

1600
02:13:07,700 --> 02:13:12,160
different forms of revenue that are coming in from the federal and state government into your county

1601
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:18,780
jurisdiction. All day long, you can break it down 10,000 different ways.

1602
02:13:20,660 --> 02:13:25,580
We cannot print money at the county. In the state of Texas, we are part of our Constitution

1603
02:13:25,580 --> 02:13:30,400
rightfully so, something the federal government should try adopting. Do balance our budget.

1604
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:44,080
Every revenue penny as accounted for every expense every penny is accounted for and that is reflected in the bills that you pay at Hase County.

1605
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:55,520
Those two tax rates that you have on your tax bill, not all the tax rates, the two tax rates that are directly responsible for this county.

1606
02:13:56,560 --> 02:14:02,780
That dollar figure at the end is something that cannot be hidden or cannot be manipulated

1607
02:14:02,780 --> 02:14:06,480
whether you are a commercial business owner or a residential owner.

1608
02:14:07,020 --> 02:14:08,440
That's what you pay.

1609
02:14:09,080 --> 02:14:12,020
This county, that is your contribution and that is what's covering.

1610
02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:18,360
Every single penny that has been spent in this institution.

1611
02:14:18,780 --> 02:14:24,600
So each individual family, citizen and business owner, he has to ask themselves on a regular

1612
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:30,720
basis, if that cash dollar amount is worth the value and services in which they are getting

1613
02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:33,900
in multiple different ways from their county government.

1614
02:14:34,720 --> 02:14:39,100
And that is an independent, individual decision that people need to make and base that off

1615
02:14:39,100 --> 02:14:39,340
the bank.

1616
02:14:39,500 --> 02:14:41,280
You cannot hide that.

1617
02:14:41,580 --> 02:14:45,020
My misstated in anything that I said there, we all see them.

1618
02:14:45,140 --> 02:14:49,360
I have it both on the commercial end and the resident for life in my life.

1619
02:14:50,340 --> 02:14:54,340
The end of the day cutting through all this complication, everything is there.

1620
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:59,720
That's what it comes down to and that is covering every form of debt, every form of operational expense.

1621
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:15,780
Every form of expense coming through this county and its direct, and it is a direct reflection of revenues and expenses in your contribution into your county government.

1622
02:15:19,200 --> 02:15:21,740
Okay? All done?

1623
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:23,460
Go on once. Go on twice.

1624
02:15:24,540 --> 02:15:25,220
That's it.

1625
02:15:28,690 --> 02:15:29,530
Yeah, David.

1626
02:15:29,950 --> 02:15:30,850
You can have three minutes.

1627
02:15:32,010 --> 02:15:35,930
I just want to clarify some of the comments that Mr. Herzog just made,

1628
02:15:36,810 --> 02:15:38,890
as far as that schedule that I gave you this morning.

1629
02:15:39,410 --> 02:15:44,350
No area if I ever claimed, even thought that we were going to get

1630
02:15:44,350 --> 02:15:47,890
our principal in debt all back at the same time.

1631
02:15:47,890 --> 02:15:51,550
I don't know where he's coming from on that, and the schedule I gave you this morning

1632
02:15:52,210 --> 02:15:54,970
precise one shows just interest, that's it.

1633
02:15:55,290 --> 02:15:55,670
That's it.

1634
02:15:57,030 --> 02:15:58,710
He gave me information.

1635
02:15:59,330 --> 02:16:03,090
I see it right here showing how much we're going to get back for each of that.

1636
02:16:03,290 --> 02:16:08,330
I know good and well it is, but he did tell me in that meeting that,

1637
02:16:08,330 --> 02:16:12,690
that no, the amount we're getting back from the state is not covering the interest.

1638
02:16:13,130 --> 02:16:17,590
That's what I've showed you, that's what I'm there, and if he wants to come up here and make it a convoluted.

1639
02:16:17,590 --> 02:16:24,130
deal that well dead and keep talking about dead. I was only talking interest and that's it.

1640
02:16:24,130 --> 02:16:26,450
Thank you, Judge.

1641
02:16:27,290 --> 02:16:28,450
Okay. Thank you.

1642
02:16:28,910 --> 02:16:28,910
All

1643
02:16:32,980 --> 02:16:35,420
right.

1644
02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:37,300
Mr. Zoser.

1645
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:42,040
The, you didn't fill out for a lunch and meeting so we can.

1646
02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:44,760
And at the end of the day before we close out this issue.

1647
02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:46,940
What I thought at the end of the day.

1648
02:16:46,940 --> 02:16:53,820
Well, what I've heard Mr. Wegg Miller state in our auditor state is, is that they believe

1649
02:16:54,920 --> 02:17:06,180
based off their estimates and forecasts that if the county found a need, a very valuable need

1650
02:17:06,180 --> 02:17:16,920
to issue up to $250 million worth of debt, that we can honestly report and reform to the

1651
02:17:16,920 --> 02:17:23,600
people that we represent that under circumstances and in current operations to death loads of

1652
02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:26,840
the county that we could maintain that under the current tax rate.

1653
02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:30,040
Bottom line is that what you said today.

1654
02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:31,120
That's correct.

1655
02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:32,180
With some assumptions.

1656
02:17:32,460 --> 02:17:38,480
With the assumptions that we put into place that we feel are reasonable or conservative.

1657
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:45,760
And again, before any piece of that issue, the current circumstances will have to support

1658
02:17:47,540 --> 02:17:54,820
But Dan, you know, when you're scheduled, I think you say that the proposed INS tax rate would be

1659
02:17:54,820 --> 02:18:01,800
12 or 6 right now is proposed at 12 or 4 so that we'd have to make some slight adjustments

1660
02:18:01,800 --> 02:18:08,540
in the M&O or the road tax in order to maintain the tax price rate.

1661
02:18:08,820 --> 02:18:14,580
And in the numbers we looked at, it actually drops slightly over the next few years after that.

1662
02:18:14,580 --> 02:18:21,100
So, you know, that's probably within reasonable debt service fund balance as far as revenue

1663
02:18:21,100 --> 02:18:21,660
allocations.

1664
02:18:24,660 --> 02:18:25,260
Thank you.

1665
02:18:28,010 --> 02:18:34,190
Also, the trading agency is not going to be surprised if they know we need to build a

1666
02:18:34,190 --> 02:18:34,350
general.

1667
02:18:34,570 --> 02:18:35,770
We've kept it in the form of capital.

1668
02:18:36,570 --> 02:18:39,950
So, that wouldn't have to make your impact on the project, but you can go over it.

1669
02:18:43,780 --> 02:18:44,140
Okay.

1670
02:18:46,780 --> 02:18:50,280
Now, it's going to be a hunger shot, let's see here.

1671
02:18:52,060 --> 02:18:58,560
Okay, why don't we go to do that ESD 9 so we can get those people back to work and covering

1672
02:18:58,560 --> 02:18:59,420
their jobs.

1673
02:18:59,960 --> 02:19:04,620
Number 21, discuss the possible actual laid-up post creation, the Hayes County Emergency

1674
02:19:04,620 --> 02:19:09,220
Services District 9, the post will actually make clear resolving that creation of the district

1675
02:19:09,220 --> 02:19:09,460
of the district.

1676
02:19:09,460 --> 02:19:09,760
It's feasible.

1677
02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:15,740
And resolving that the creation of the district will or will not promote public safety,

1678
02:19:15,740 --> 02:19:22,660
Well, for our health and convenience of persons residing within the post district, if the court finds in favor of district creation

1679
02:19:22,660 --> 02:19:29,240
it shall also take action to fix the district boundaries or in the election to confirm the district creation

1680
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:33,480
and expose the legal conditions of any that's right out of the statute.

1681
02:19:34,320 --> 02:19:36,320
That's the way the statute reads.

1682
02:19:36,460 --> 02:19:37,000
Is that correct?

1683
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:43,240
The issue before the court today is

1684
02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:52,520
is the creation feasible. What will be the boundaries and is necessary to promote public safety

1685
02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:58,400
health and welfare, if we need to support it within that district? If we find in favor of that district

1686
02:19:58,400 --> 02:19:59,980
being created, then

1687
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:11,560
And we also fix the boundaries and order an election conferred. I've asked Mr. Longshale to come in and give us the needy-gritty of the Department and Martinez.

1688
02:20:13,060 --> 02:20:27,660
And Ms. Coward's office has been instrumental in this. We've even hired consultants to help us determine who's inside the possible boundaries and who will vote for the creation and establishment of the public.

1689
02:20:27,660 --> 02:20:34,420
Board, we have posed boundaries of the jurisdiction we're speaking of.

1690
02:20:34,660 --> 02:20:37,860
The creation of the ESD number nine.

1691
02:20:39,300 --> 02:20:40,420
Court questions?

1692
02:20:44,060 --> 02:20:49,160
Now, who we, Mr. Smith, would you step up since you're a kind of the nitty-gritty cat?

1693
02:20:50,860 --> 02:20:58,040
Now, y'all have worked out the boundaries with to take US ESDs and jurisdiction

1694
02:20:58,040 --> 02:21:02,720
is that correct? Yes, sir. I was correct. We're met with ESD-7, which served as the Wimbledy

1695
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:07,800
Body. Yes. One of the issues in the potential creation of this ditch was one of the

1696
02:21:07,800 --> 02:21:11,820
effects of one of their ESD-7's. They've been serving a large part of the pressure part

1697
02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:17,740
of the county. Some are not ranch. Open the public, also. Kind of everything needs to

1698
02:21:17,740 --> 02:21:24,160
list a legal road or a west of either way. From that district's contact, but they'll never

1699
02:21:24,160 --> 02:21:27,740
subsidize with tax money. So one of the things we're really trying to do is make sure

1700
02:21:27,740 --> 02:21:31,300
But if you pay a tax dollar, it goes to the summary service that you've been provided.

1701
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:34,040
It's a given us an opportunity to have a chance to kind of work in the venture.

1702
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:35,300
Somebody's very equitable.

1703
02:21:35,860 --> 02:21:40,280
And the person that he has been set in this year's treatment, the owner, and then another

1704
02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:44,880
working on their own election item to bring the area inside of their districts.

1705
02:21:46,460 --> 02:21:50,440
So the only way that happens to be the annexation process is that correct.

1706
02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:53,820
For that territory, the district will have to call an election.

1707
02:21:54,700 --> 02:22:01,020
And then the district will have to hold $1.00 in both the ESD-7 and the proposed annexation

1708
02:22:01,020 --> 02:22:01,480
territory.

1709
02:22:02,180 --> 02:22:05,940
And then those both of those will have to pass in both territories before the annexation

1710
02:22:05,940 --> 02:22:06,260
happened.

1711
02:22:07,400 --> 02:22:13,600
So this has been to work out proposed boundaries of proposed DSD number 9.

1712
02:22:13,600 --> 02:22:14,200
That is correct.

1713
02:22:14,480 --> 02:22:19,040
And the purpose of this is to provide health and safety issues for the people within

1714
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:19,940
that jurisdiction.

1715
02:22:20,500 --> 02:22:20,940
Yes, sir.

1716
02:22:20,940 --> 02:22:26,900
And even if it would be tax for the services that they would receive, that was correct.

1717
02:22:26,980 --> 02:22:30,760
And this purpose of this district is for the MS services and the MS services.

1718
02:22:31,340 --> 02:22:41,220
Okay. So with the corporate acknowledged that it would be necessary to take the welfare of the people within that jurisdiction.

1719
02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:44,000
Okay. So that's the first criteria.

1720
02:22:44,860 --> 02:22:49,760
Now, the next criterion is, is it feasible?

1721
02:22:50,920 --> 02:22:56,020
Well, have we decided who could vote in this of this calendar?

1722
02:22:56,860 --> 02:23:00,060
We come to that conclusion that the people inside these values

1723
02:23:00,060 --> 02:23:04,860
would be capable of voting for that ESD number nine judge.

1724
02:23:11,020 --> 02:23:16,280
Well, it's like Chinese algorithms, it's hard, but it can't be done.

1725
02:23:17,240 --> 02:23:17,860
So let's...

1726
02:23:19,300 --> 02:23:22,960
So, David, I guess we're talking about that large pink area.

1727
02:23:23,220 --> 02:23:23,880
That surrounds the...

1728
02:23:24,520 --> 02:23:26,420
I guess those are the incorporated minutes of...

1729
02:23:26,420 --> 02:23:27,180
It's the red line.

1730
02:23:27,920 --> 02:23:31,200
It'd be the red line that starts at FM30.

1731
02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:35,420
I want you to go to the toilet over there to county line.

1732
02:23:35,620 --> 02:23:38,600
That's the E.T. J. and Sidney, this man marked us, also there.

1733
02:23:39,100 --> 02:23:42,740
And they would follow the county line all the way up along the East County line to where

1734
02:23:42,740 --> 02:23:49,000
intersex, there with Travis, and then it comes back over there, and then it follows the district

1735
02:23:49,000 --> 02:23:53,000
lines of beauty's E.S.D. for any of the people are in that.

1736
02:23:54,060 --> 02:23:56,640
Do you guys I wish we knew where we have is the city council.

1737
02:23:57,820 --> 02:23:59,960
But it is a large population of county.

1738
02:23:59,960 --> 02:24:04,280
I can tell you that talk with the other partners in the county, there is a large charity

1739
02:24:04,280 --> 02:24:07,200
here, part of the county, and that's our story.

1740
02:24:07,940 --> 02:24:11,900
And that's why I was created in San Marges, EMS and all that.

1741
02:24:12,700 --> 02:24:25,460
Do we plan on mailing information sheets to citizens and these areas so that they clearly

1742
02:24:26,420 --> 02:24:31,020
understand the facts of the situation and where they're what they were actually

1743
02:24:31,020 --> 02:24:35,880
be voting on and what it means. We have any intentions of doing that formally through

1744
02:24:35,880 --> 02:24:41,340
your institutions. We have plans to hold meetings as many as we can. When we've

1745
02:24:41,340 --> 02:24:45,320
also been meeting since the first of January with the City Councils, we met with

1746
02:24:45,320 --> 02:24:49,430
Kyle City Council and that was part of the getting us to this point. The City

1747
02:24:49,430 --> 02:24:52,010
I'll agree after we talk through the EMS issues.

1748
02:24:52,290 --> 02:24:53,970
This was the revenue of the avenue.

1749
02:24:54,430 --> 02:24:57,410
They thought best fit EMS service for the area.

1750
02:24:57,530 --> 02:24:59,690
I need a Walden Union City Council to talk to you.

1751
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:05,440
We talked to the Japanese Spring City Council because part of the area at 150 is in the U.T. J. I would

1752
02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:10,240
talk to the City Assembly staff and we know that they're going to a lot inside the U.T. J. and

1753
02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:18,480
they're going to participate. The RADC has the as a partnership. We also met with Mustang

1754
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:25,380
Ridge. Mustang Ridge has allowed it inside the U.T. J. J. Mountain City has a lot inside the

1755
02:25:25,380 --> 02:25:29,860
U.T. J. In the Southern City. So there's been a lot of local elected official

1756
02:25:29,860 --> 02:25:33,640
conversations, as far as when it comes down to the individual, like,

1757
02:25:33,680 --> 02:25:35,820
community type of events, we've been waiting to get

1758
02:25:35,820 --> 02:25:40,100
collaboration and see what the court had to say before we went

1759
02:25:40,100 --> 02:25:44,160
out to start having those, before you've actually known who's

1760
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:45,080
eligible to vote.

1761
02:25:51,500 --> 02:25:56,600
Judge, everyone in an area that has consented or in an

1762
02:25:56,600 --> 02:25:59,920
unincorporated area will vote and their votes will be counted.

1763
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:07,520
The two areas that have not consented are creed more, which you can see there's just a smidge

1764
02:26:07,520 --> 02:26:08,460
right up here.

1765
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:10,180
Yeah, how many people live in that area?

1766
02:26:10,500 --> 02:26:11,420
I think it's one.

1767
02:26:12,380 --> 02:26:12,620
That's one.

1768
02:26:12,620 --> 02:26:16,480
And I think that one person happens to be a council member, is that correct?

1769
02:26:16,540 --> 02:26:17,080
Yes, sir.

1770
02:26:17,140 --> 02:26:21,020
That's actually part of a large ranch and his home is actually in Travis.

1771
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:22,560
It's just a back pasture.

1772
02:26:22,880 --> 02:26:25,860
And so it's considered as a kind of a greed to provide him EMS.

1773
02:26:26,020 --> 02:26:29,400
They do now, sir, because that's, it's based on where your house is located and his house

1774
02:26:29,400 --> 02:26:34,400
This is actually in Travis. This is the back six acres of his pasture lander.

1775
02:26:34,620 --> 02:26:36,080
You said it's a pasture lander.

1776
02:26:37,700 --> 02:26:43,660
The other area that has not consented, as the court, I think already knows, is the city of San Marcos.

1777
02:26:44,360 --> 02:26:52,200
The area in blue here, and you can see the red line actually just creates an island around it, essentially.

1778
02:26:52,200 --> 02:26:58,660
That area is the city of San Marcos' corporate limits, and they have not consented within their corporate limits.

1779
02:26:58,980 --> 02:27:03,560
They have consented in the ETJ, which is the pink area.

1780
02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:06,220
You're obviously not going to get down into Co-mount County.

1781
02:27:06,380 --> 02:27:08,720
It's from the State to the Hayes County line.

1782
02:27:11,010 --> 02:27:12,190
I have water with the county.

1783
02:27:12,410 --> 02:27:15,950
I know that we service some of that area now.

1784
02:27:17,570 --> 02:27:18,530
How is that going to work?

1785
02:27:18,750 --> 02:27:20,450
Who's going to provide service to them?

1786
02:27:20,450 --> 02:27:25,950
So the Guadalupe County Commissioners actually support EMS directly out of county budget in

1787
02:27:25,950 --> 02:27:32,090
the county and they contract with shirts EMS and then shirts EMS subcontracts out of

1788
02:27:32,090 --> 02:27:37,250
a portion of the northern part of Guadalupe County to us through an annual contract.

1789
02:27:38,090 --> 02:27:43,690
And then contract is actually a very beneficial for us because the government subsidy equals

1790
02:27:43,690 --> 02:27:49,130
what our average patient revenue is. So we actually cover our expenses upfront and the need

1791
02:27:49,130 --> 02:27:51,970
and we're in person bulls, we actually make on top of that so.

1792
02:27:52,050 --> 02:27:53,550
So they can continue to.

1793
02:27:53,550 --> 02:27:54,010
Yes, man.

1794
02:27:54,170 --> 02:27:58,290
If for many years, we thought we were spending a lot of our money in that county and

1795
02:27:58,290 --> 02:28:01,870
after we did the analysis over this years and actually out there, it's actually been

1796
02:28:01,870 --> 02:28:02,310
profitable.

1797
02:28:03,530 --> 02:28:06,590
So it's covering some of our charity costs back in our county by providing this service.

1798
02:28:07,090 --> 02:28:10,330
And so the same with the city of Santa Marcus until they,

1799
02:28:10,330 --> 02:28:16,530
such time, I guess, that they develop their own system, I guess they can contract with this

1800
02:28:16,530 --> 02:28:19,570
You need to develop ESD even for passive.

1801
02:28:20,030 --> 02:28:21,730
Yes, ma'am.

1802
02:28:22,690 --> 02:28:33,410
Oh, look, so if I may before the court attempts a motion, there's a draft resolution that

1803
02:28:33,410 --> 02:28:35,390
I'm placed in front of you labeled item 21,

1804
02:28:37,590 --> 02:28:41,310
and it describes the consent or non-consent

1805
02:28:41,310 --> 02:28:49,930
of all of these municipalities and the RETJs, yet then gets into the resolution of court, which

1806
02:28:49,930 --> 02:28:56,010
makes certain findings, but as this court has discussed before, there may be an instance

1807
02:28:57,370 --> 02:29:07,610
because Joyce and others responsible must count the, not only the hosts within the district,

1808
02:29:07,610 --> 02:29:15,550
but also the votes that happened to occur within an ETA of a municipality, and because of

1809
02:29:15,550 --> 02:29:20,930
the way the statute reads if a majority of the voters within, for instance, the ETA

1810
02:29:20,930 --> 02:29:29,910
of Sam Marcus, vote no, then the district will not be created overlaying that ETA.

1811
02:29:31,250 --> 02:29:45,150
And we've discussed in previous updates in this court whether or not a no from one of those areas would defeat feasibility, would make it no longer feasible.

1812
02:29:45,990 --> 02:29:50,210
And I'm trying to craft at least some draft language here that is not set in stone.

1813
02:29:50,770 --> 02:29:56,250
We've fully intended to get feedback from the court today and then finalize the resolution.

1814
02:29:56,890 --> 02:29:59,970
And one assumption I made, you can find it in item four.

1815
02:30:01,420 --> 02:30:10,980
And that is that if a majority of the voters within the corporate limits of Kyle, no, the district is still feasible.

1816
02:30:12,300 --> 02:30:19,280
And that is an assumption I made, but certainly something the court can deliberate about, decide otherwise if court sees fit.

1817
02:30:21,440 --> 02:30:28,420
If the court finds that agreeable, then really we're just discussing item three in your resolution, primarily.

1818
02:30:30,340 --> 02:30:41,520
item three states that it is legally possible for the ETJ of San Marcos to vote no by

1819
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:52,000
majority and or the ETJ of Kyle to vote no by majority and then it follows by stating

1820
02:30:52,000 --> 02:31:02,120
that some combination of those ETAs voting know may result in the court finding it not feasible

1821
02:31:02,700 --> 02:31:07,040
and not serving the health safety and welfare of the community.

1822
02:31:07,900 --> 02:31:11,860
So, what you're telling me is, as of today, we cannot determine the feasibility.

1823
02:31:12,200 --> 02:31:17,120
Well, you can determine the feasibility, but then place qualifications on it, and that's why I have

1824
02:31:17,120 --> 02:31:23,740
title of this resolution, all of the things we've called it, but then stated finally with

1825
02:31:23,740 --> 02:31:29,820
qualifications, because I think, and Council has agreed that there may be some instances

1826
02:31:29,820 --> 02:31:36,080
when the court would like to qualify this. I do not want to dictate that for the court.

1827
02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:49,180
I believe we have probably some sound arguments for finding it feasible anyway from your

1828
02:31:49,180 --> 02:31:55,780
proponents of ESD-9 and we can let Mr. Carlton or Mr. Smith, Chief Smith comment on that.

1829
02:31:56,880 --> 02:32:03,160
But obviously the court can independently establish its opinion and then I can reflect that

1830
02:32:03,160 --> 02:32:03,820
I don't believe.

1831
02:32:04,200 --> 02:32:10,820
Well if we don't, if he is D never nine, who will provide the eMS for the people in the

1832
02:32:10,820 --> 02:32:12,100
E.T. Jays of those cities?

1833
02:32:14,360 --> 02:32:21,140
Probably who is currently providing eMS, or there could be some other arena,

1834
02:32:23,160 --> 02:32:23,540
but I mean

1835
02:32:23,540 --> 02:32:27,600
I think for lack of a better response right now I would say this status quo would remain.

1836
02:32:28,850 --> 02:32:34,170
Mark, is this different than other ESDs that have been created in the past?

1837
02:32:35,150 --> 02:32:43,450
I would think that if you're in that boundary then you vote and it's the majority

1838
02:32:43,450 --> 02:32:44,850
of the vote rules.

1839
02:32:45,130 --> 02:32:46,550
Why is this so...

1840
02:32:46,550 --> 02:32:52,070
Well, it's a little complicated here because we have so much area covered by municipalities.

1841
02:32:52,810 --> 02:32:56,930
It just happens that this is an area of the county where an ESD was

1842
02:32:56,930 --> 02:32:58,990
never pushed for EMS service.

1843
02:32:59,230 --> 02:33:04,190
There have been ESDs established for fire, but not for EMS.

1844
02:33:05,530 --> 02:33:08,010
And because of that waiting, because of the fact

1845
02:33:08,010 --> 02:33:11,530
that it never happened, we now have a rather complicated

1846
02:33:11,530 --> 02:33:13,350
election to deal with.

1847
02:33:15,770 --> 02:33:17,750
One of the first questions I asked them that we can't judge,

1848
02:33:17,910 --> 02:33:20,530
is why do we have a sad mortgage as they're in the US?

1849
02:33:21,490 --> 02:33:25,070
And basically, the reason we had one is to try to provide

1850
02:33:25,070 --> 02:33:26,650
coverage with people who use it based.

1851
02:33:27,790 --> 02:33:29,370
That's the bottom line,

1852
02:33:32,200 --> 02:33:37,000
so now we give people the option to pay and have a say and how

1853
02:33:37,000 --> 02:33:37,920
let's say get charged.

1854
02:33:39,900 --> 02:33:45,220
So, if the Court will entertain me, I'd like to invite Mr. Carlton to make a comment on this

1855
02:33:45,220 --> 02:33:50,580
issue, because he and I had a conversation on the phone about it last week, and I told

1856
02:33:50,580 --> 02:33:56,480
him I'd like to, for him to possibly repeat that verbatim, I'm going to test him here

1857
02:33:56,480 --> 02:33:57,800
see if he can repeat it for a bit.

1858
02:33:59,340 --> 02:34:03,500
Before you do that, I want to try to get some clarity.

1859
02:34:04,240 --> 02:34:06,340
Maybe if I read you out loud and make sense to me.

1860
02:34:06,460 --> 02:34:10,440
The district can be lawfully created if the voters in the city of San Marcus.

1861
02:34:12,320 --> 02:34:20,260
Or that should be an end or there in or the city of San Marcus or the city of Kiles,

1862
02:34:20,260 --> 02:34:28,260
That's your ETA, that are in the proposed boundaries, do not proof it.

1863
02:34:28,840 --> 02:34:31,420
So let me explain that part before you move on.

1864
02:34:31,740 --> 02:34:39,040
What we're saying here is that this ETA could buy majority vote, no, right.

1865
02:34:39,980 --> 02:34:47,700
Yet the people in these unincorporated areas and in this ETA and out here could all vote, yes, and

1866
02:34:47,700 --> 02:34:55,180
because of the racialists and people who are going to get us versus no, the districts could still be created.

1867
02:34:55,600 --> 02:34:57,600
Lee Lee speaking.

1868
02:34:58,360 --> 02:34:59,000
And likewise,

1869
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:07,320
The city of Kyle's E2G could buy majority vote, no, but it's still, in fact, it's quite feasible that they could vote, no.

1870
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:11,940
And if these are yeses and elsewhere, then it gets created anyway.

1871
02:35:13,540 --> 02:35:19,580
So, that's really a lead in, and I guess technically speaking, if turnout here was extremely low,

1872
02:35:20,020 --> 02:35:26,040
then these areas here and here could overcome the no vote and the district could still be created.

1873
02:35:27,800 --> 02:35:36,380
But, and so the court needs to find whether it's feasible still, if you get noticed by

1874
02:35:36,380 --> 02:35:40,880
majority here and or here, what do you want to do with this district?

1875
02:35:41,340 --> 02:35:46,420
Because at some point the court may think, well, it still makes sense and Mr. Crofton will

1876
02:35:46,420 --> 02:35:50,600
make his argument as to why, or the court could say that doesn't make sense anymore.

1877
02:35:50,600 --> 02:36:00,780
Well, I think I'm understanding what you're trying to describe, and certainly we'll hear the opinions of stakeholders in the process.

1878
02:36:03,530 --> 02:36:10,750
But this is because of history and how all this was set up throughout our county years ago in many different areas.

1879
02:36:12,540 --> 02:36:16,240
This is already complicated

1880
02:36:18,320 --> 02:36:28,800
to form a district in, for example, either or are both the

1881
02:36:28,800 --> 02:36:31,780
ETAs were not in approval.

1882
02:36:33,260 --> 02:36:39,920
I think you go back to the drawing board before you just create further cluster and confusion

1883
02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:41,360
and a

1884
02:36:43,730 --> 02:36:51,530
complete hodgepodge of service across our county that, again, I'm open minded to different things,

1885
02:36:51,790 --> 02:36:58,110
but as you can see, you've already complicated on the map. You take those things out, and you have a,

1886
02:36:58,110 --> 02:37:12,270
you have a, I mean, really something that doesn't look anything like something that should be

1887
02:37:12,270 --> 02:37:16,870
anything else. It looks like a real quilt portally.

1888
02:37:17,970 --> 02:37:23,810
Two to that point. You'll notice that I have not included in Item 3, then any reference

1889
02:37:23,810 --> 02:37:31,090
to Mountain City in the need of Wall, Uland, because my assumption again is that the court

1890
02:37:31,090 --> 02:37:38,110
would find that it's still feasible even if this area dropped out. The only area I've included

1891
02:37:38,110 --> 02:37:45,090
for consideration where you might alter your finding feasibility would be this area in pink

1892
02:37:45,090 --> 02:37:55,130
and this area in light blue. Because those are large areas and it would possibly bisect the

1893
02:37:55,130 --> 02:37:56,250
the area being covered.

1894
02:37:58,470 --> 02:38:02,390
Unless, of course, the status quo remained, but the status quo remained

1895
02:38:02,390 --> 02:38:05,670
with this entity that was created over part of the area.

1896
02:38:06,650 --> 02:38:12,670
And also just to get all, so to me, that's that's that's a question more.

1897
02:38:14,390 --> 02:38:18,830
I want to hear from Ms. New and my people in the Wimbler area if they're good with this,

1898
02:38:19,310 --> 02:38:22,750
as the idea of how it will go forward, I think that they are.

1899
02:38:23,190 --> 02:38:27,910
And second, just follow all my issues out that we all can think about them.

1900
02:38:28,390 --> 02:38:30,290
The maximum 10 cent.

1901
02:38:31,640 --> 02:38:37,000
Now I understand that that is that is the maximum level out by law.

1902
02:38:39,820 --> 02:38:45,140
I know there are districts within Hayes County that are at different levels, obviously.

1903
02:38:47,620 --> 02:38:53,540
And I'd like to know that I'd like to be reminded of where we believe we're going to start out.

1904
02:38:53,720 --> 02:38:56,280
If I remember Chief, I think it's somewhere 3 or 5.

1905
02:38:56,460 --> 02:38:58,080
I'll fuck my head.

1906
02:39:03,300 --> 02:39:11,080
So what I would be interested to have a discussion about is, is, and I think I know how this works.

1907
02:39:11,240 --> 02:39:12,860
I just want to confirm it.

1908
02:39:15,180 --> 02:39:18,540
If you capped it, say to, I'm just making something up.

1909
02:39:18,620 --> 02:39:21,060
Say you capped it at six or five.

1910
02:39:21,640 --> 02:39:30,200
What is the process if the ISD felt that that was then maxed out in no longer to provide a quality service.

1911
02:39:30,200 --> 02:39:38,460
based off that rate, what is the process for getting it up to the maximum rate allowed by law

1912
02:39:38,460 --> 02:39:45,320
of if we were to cap that further in this district?

1913
02:39:47,730 --> 02:39:48,490
You have a similar question.

1914
02:39:49,650 --> 02:39:51,710
I think so, but let me say clear,

1915
02:39:54,910 --> 02:39:58,890
if you feel like there is not any today or in the course

1916
02:39:58,890 --> 02:39:59,990
of the future to go up.

1917
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:29,260
One of the maximized rate of tints since the state of Texas allows underbottle laws. I would very much like to cap that further through the creation of this district so that people have a good understanding of what that maximum ceiling is for this particular service on there, on their phone taxes and to have a process that has more citizen involvement and in some sort of electoral process.

1918
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:34,640
And the ESD would have to go out and make the case to the people that is paying the bills

1919
02:40:34,640 --> 02:40:41,840
and why that caption would be lifted to $8 to $9 or to the maximum spent allowed by Texas

1920
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:42,300
State Law.

1921
02:40:42,460 --> 02:40:42,800
Is that clear?

1922
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:46,700
I understand exactly where you're wanting to go.

1923
02:40:46,820 --> 02:40:47,320
I have a couple of things.

1924
02:40:47,860 --> 02:40:49,240
I'm going to fail to verbatim.

1925
02:40:49,980 --> 02:40:51,400
I'm going to put that out there.

1926
02:40:51,560 --> 02:40:57,680
To the process, if you were to choose to put a cap on the maximum rate through this election

1927
02:40:58,340 --> 02:41:03,340
and the district order decided at some point in the future that they really needed to bump

1928
02:41:03,340 --> 02:41:09,380
that cap up. The district would have pulled an election to do so. The cost of that

1929
02:41:09,380 --> 02:41:15,880
election, or this area with the population here, I'm not sure how much, it's always how

1930
02:41:15,880 --> 02:41:22,960
the charges. This district for doing that was a minimum. But the district would pay it would

1931
02:41:22,960 --> 02:41:27,440
bear the cost of that election at that point in time, whatever that might be. And in

1932
02:41:27,440 --> 02:41:36,880
I'll likely have that stir contract with the county to conduct the election for them, but I don't know that I can project what that cost would be, but that would be the process.

1933
02:41:41,220 --> 02:41:49,860
With regard to the verbatim conversation that I can't repeat, but I'll do my best to get it somewhat close.

1934
02:41:52,740 --> 02:41:56,440
I understand that the desire not to create this really ugly

1935
02:41:56,440 --> 02:42:04,740
patchwork quilt of service area and we're here in large part because we want, as you

1936
02:42:04,740 --> 02:42:09,080
want, the folks within the area pay for their own services and have their

1937
02:42:09,080 --> 02:42:16,020
say and be responsible for their own service rather than the county and the city

1938
02:42:16,020 --> 02:42:24,140
continuing the city's continuing to be in this kind of, who's going to pay for what, how do we control it and all that sort of stuff.

1939
02:42:24,260 --> 02:42:29,460
So to clean that up would be ideal. The ideal outcome would be everybody votes yes.

1940
02:42:29,920 --> 02:42:33,340
Now we've got our emergency services consolidated in one area.

1941
02:42:33,860 --> 02:42:39,080
But the reality, the legal reality of it is based on voter turnout and how people feel about it.

1942
02:42:39,400 --> 02:42:44,160
We may end up with areas that drop in or out of this proposed district.

1943
02:42:45,100 --> 02:42:51,640
And so, as I think Mark was laying out, you kind of were looking to you for guidance.

1944
02:42:52,040 --> 02:42:59,060
How much of this area needs to vote in in order for you to feel comfortable that this

1945
02:42:59,060 --> 02:43:04,560
district can make at least a good portion of all the good portion of this problem where

1946
02:43:04,560 --> 02:43:11,620
you've been funding M.S. through county tax dollars in a small portion of the county.

1947
02:43:11,620 --> 02:43:14,200
whereas the rest of the county is paying for their own way.

1948
02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:17,640
So, you look up there.

1949
02:43:18,880 --> 02:43:20,940
Sandbox is obviously just out of there.

1950
02:43:21,080 --> 02:43:22,000
They don't want to be part of the district.

1951
02:43:22,200 --> 02:43:23,980
They want to kind of call their own shots.

1952
02:43:25,180 --> 02:43:29,940
The citizens within the city of Kyle gets a vote to decide whether they want to do that one

1953
02:43:29,940 --> 02:43:30,500
where are the others.

1954
02:43:30,580 --> 02:43:34,680
So those two areas obviously those cities have the ability to tax their folks independently.

1955
02:43:35,360 --> 02:43:38,520
Same thing for folks within the city limits of mountain city,

1956
02:43:38,520 --> 02:43:44,620
You need a wall, you lend a apologize for any cities I'm forgetting in terms of city limits.

1957
02:43:46,680 --> 02:43:50,500
Those folks could decide within those cities to tax and provide their own e-mess service.

1958
02:43:50,600 --> 02:43:55,960
The real challenge becomes the E.T.J.'s because the E.T.J.'s don't have a property tax mechanism

1959
02:43:55,960 --> 02:43:59,540
other than the county's property tax currently in place.

1960
02:43:59,800 --> 02:44:03,220
This district would create that property tax and the ability to fund that service.

1961
02:44:03,740 --> 02:44:05,440
But as you look at the map,

1962
02:44:08,100 --> 02:44:11,740
I think it's for you guys to decide, wow, if the San

1963
02:44:11,740 --> 02:44:19,600
Marcus ETJ voted no, as a subset of the whole district and the whole district voted

1964
02:44:19,600 --> 02:44:28,580
yes, then would we want to allow the district to be created and go forward, recognizing

1965
02:44:28,580 --> 02:44:35,300
As in that we would still have to figure out a way to solve EMS in San Martin C.T.J., which

1966
02:44:35,300 --> 02:44:39,620
is what Mark suggested might be status quo where the county continues to fund that in

1967
02:44:39,620 --> 02:44:40,060
that area.

1968
02:44:40,300 --> 02:44:43,760
We figure out some other method of which I'm not aware, but we might.

1969
02:44:44,840 --> 02:44:51,580
Or is the fact that the San Martin C.T.J. votes out enough to say not, let's just strap

1970
02:44:51,580 --> 02:44:55,880
a whole idea because it's obviously too complicated and we're just going to county's just

1971
02:44:55,880 --> 02:44:59,380
to keep funding status for the whole area now.

1972
02:45:01,270 --> 02:45:11,970
That's kind of the question, and that question arises for Piles E.T.J., which is significantly smaller than the San Marcos E.T.J. in the area.

1973
02:45:12,510 --> 02:45:15,230
And it arises for the smaller cities E.T.J. as well,

1974
02:45:17,430 --> 02:45:20,870
but not as significant as I don't think the populations are quite that way.

1975
02:45:22,850 --> 02:45:30,130
I would think that if, you know, if you look at it, if Sam Marcus and Kyle both city limits

1976
02:45:30,130 --> 02:45:34,170
in ETAJ, if all those areas, but know this, the district overall probably doesn't pass,

1977
02:45:34,590 --> 02:45:37,110
just because of voters, just because of the percentage of voters.

1978
02:45:38,870 --> 02:45:44,290
But that's really where the resolution is drafted, and I think the primary focus from what

1979
02:45:44,290 --> 02:45:52,230
not discuss this, do you create under the circumstance that either Kiles, E.T.J. or St. Markets

1980
02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:56,490
as E.T.J. or both of them, but no, do you want this district to go forward?

1981
02:45:57,290 --> 02:46:01,210
I can make an argument that yes you do because any money funding from those areas where you

1982
02:46:01,210 --> 02:46:06,430
don't currently have the ability to generate tax revenue helps offset what you have to push

1983
02:46:06,430 --> 02:46:13,110
from other parts of the county into this area to fund the MS. But it creates a bit of a ugly

1984
02:46:13,110 --> 02:46:14,810
that work will, if that happens.

1985
02:46:15,910 --> 02:46:18,110
Well, if a frog had wings, he wouldn't muck his bottles.

1986
02:46:19,490 --> 02:46:20,950
So I'm going to write that one down.

1987
02:46:21,210 --> 02:46:26,490
You probably are asking us to rewrite the King James Bible here.

1988
02:46:27,050 --> 02:46:31,050
There's no way to put all of that in the verbiage

1989
02:46:31,050 --> 02:46:33,110
that every voter can understand.

1990
02:46:34,350 --> 02:46:35,210
It's didn't happen.

1991
02:46:35,450 --> 02:46:37,850
What are you talking about having this lecture?

1992
02:46:38,270 --> 02:46:41,110
And current with the November 8th election, or when?

1993
02:46:41,830 --> 02:46:42,070
Yes.

1994
02:46:42,070 --> 02:46:49,430
But this reverberate is for you and not for the voter, the voter will simply vote yes or no to the creation of the district.

1995
02:46:50,130 --> 02:46:53,770
Okay, the question before the court today is, is it feasible?

1996
02:46:55,170 --> 02:46:55,970
Is it necessary?

1997
02:46:58,090 --> 02:46:59,710
That's one of the questions, yes.

1998
02:46:59,770 --> 02:47:03,150
Setting the districts boundaries is another, I think that's sort of a given at this point.

1999
02:47:03,150 --> 02:47:04,290
Well, I do that, we're fine.

2000
02:47:05,410 --> 02:47:07,350
They've done that.

2001
02:47:07,350 --> 02:47:14,110
And so in the process, Ms. Collins' office will come up with a list of people eligible to vote,

2002
02:47:14,270 --> 02:47:17,930
yeah, you're bad on the creation of this.

2003
02:47:18,250 --> 02:47:23,150
Because I think the taxpayers should be the one in the term before they get taxed or not.

2004
02:47:24,110 --> 02:47:30,210
And I think implicit in the voting is they need to say how much you're going to get taxed.

2005
02:47:30,450 --> 02:47:36,190
In other words, one of the problems I have with the balance is that it's often unclear whether

2006
02:47:36,190 --> 02:47:43,870
Yes, it's a no or no, it's a yes and what what are you doing here? What are you doing because I don't want it to end up on their tax bill and say what is this?

2007
02:47:44,770 --> 02:47:46,590
Who voted for this? Well you didn't

2008
02:47:48,390 --> 02:48:00,390
So let's let's be very clear that if we decided to do it that the ballot is really important to me that we have the people understand what they're voting for or what they're voting me can

2009
02:48:00,850 --> 02:48:05,230
And it has to be clear to them that you're currently receiving him as services

2010
02:48:05,930 --> 02:48:08,510
But you're not paying directly for them.

2011
02:48:10,420 --> 02:48:14,440
And the other people in the county are paying for that.

2012
02:48:16,160 --> 02:48:19,120
And that's, you know, the best of all worlds is user-pays.

2013
02:48:19,300 --> 02:48:20,560
If you don't use it, you don't pay.

2014
02:48:21,180 --> 02:48:24,000
Well, that's nice to think.

2015
02:48:24,460 --> 02:48:26,240
But you hope you don't have an EDM as.

2016
02:48:26,400 --> 02:48:28,040
But when you do, you need them.

2017
02:48:28,560 --> 02:48:30,600
And so those are things that are going to happen.

2018
02:48:30,620 --> 02:48:32,600
You're going to have to do a lot of community outbreaks

2019
02:48:32,600 --> 02:48:39,060
and educate them, so they know exactly what their choices are, so they can be formed and make

2020
02:48:39,060 --> 02:48:45,220
a good choice, because it's expensive to hold elections and have your things dashed.

2021
02:48:45,480 --> 02:48:52,000
So this approximation you can pose here, Councillor, is a resolution of the court that the

2022
02:48:52,000 --> 02:48:57,780
district be creating, that election be held once the boundaries have been determined, they

2023
02:48:58,660 --> 02:49:04,540
It's a weird, and it's one document meeting our statute for the response, our statute

2024
02:49:04,540 --> 02:49:06,480
to response of the fees, is that correct?

2025
02:49:07,300 --> 02:49:08,260
That's correct, Judge.

2026
02:49:09,120 --> 02:49:14,400
The only question mark we still have then, and perhaps I can just put it to you in a series

2027
02:49:14,400 --> 02:49:15,220
of questions,

2028
02:49:17,280 --> 02:49:21,720
but we just need to get clear feedback on what you find to be feasible and not

2029
02:49:21,720 --> 02:49:31,660
So, may I ask a question within the municipalities section of San Marcos because the position

2030
02:49:31,660 --> 02:49:32,800
of the city may?

2031
02:49:34,480 --> 02:49:40,120
You had affluent taxes inside the city of Kyle, you have affluent taxes inside one of

2032
02:49:40,120 --> 02:49:46,060
other cities that would be taking this under consideration within their incorporated area.

2033
02:49:46,820 --> 02:49:47,980
Mount City.

2034
02:49:47,980 --> 02:49:54,660
and you're not in the city, you're all in the world, you and have, at home, taxes.

2035
02:49:56,240 --> 02:50:00,000
Well, they would, this, this, this, this, this.

2036
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:08,500
Directorate would have understand why I'm trying to go, where I want to try to go is perhaps if any one of

2037
02:50:08,500 --> 02:50:16,800
those incorporated municipal areas within their direct municipal boundaries, not in the

2038
02:50:18,200 --> 02:50:21,200
in the corporate boundaries.

2039
02:50:22,700 --> 02:50:24,240
Don't vote for this.

2040
02:50:24,460 --> 02:50:24,560
All right.

2041
02:50:24,920 --> 02:50:28,960
Let's say you and doesn't vote for this inside its corporate boundaries.

2042
02:50:30,340 --> 02:50:37,100
Then that city will have an ability to work with

2043
02:50:38,600 --> 02:50:43,180
Contract somebody to provide services to people in you or

2044
02:50:43,920 --> 02:50:50,960
whoever that may be. And so what I'm going with this, I think, is in my opinion of what I see

2045
02:50:51,960 --> 02:51:02,370
is if it fails in the E.T.J., I think we keep bridging this thing and go back and try to

2046
02:51:02,370 --> 02:51:09,450
develop something that is more comprehensive that will go back at it and go back and educate

2047
02:51:09,450 --> 02:51:17,210
people and go back with a stronger plan. If it fails and so I'm saying if it fails and any of those

2048
02:51:17,210 --> 02:51:25,390
the ETAs scrap it and start over and if it fails inside one of the corporate boundaries of the

2049
02:51:25,390 --> 02:51:33,690
cities then that corporate city can handle and manage that issue. So let me that's what I'm

2050
02:51:33,690 --> 02:51:38,670
That's why I think I'm coming down on this if that makes sense to that.

2051
02:51:39,490 --> 02:51:40,870
Let me clarify, Commissioner.

2052
02:51:41,830 --> 02:51:46,650
Your statement is that, and I think you're talking about the E.T.J.s of Kyle and Sam Marpas here

2053
02:51:46,650 --> 02:51:50,190
and not for instance the E.T.J. of one of these municipalities here.

2054
02:51:50,830 --> 02:51:53,750
I mean, I'm not familiar with the E.T.J. of Uland and U.L. and U.L.

2055
02:51:54,110 --> 02:51:56,470
You're talking about that here, and thank you so much.

2056
02:51:56,470 --> 02:51:57,330
I have there in the right.

2057
02:51:58,930 --> 02:52:00,170
Do you want this?

2058
02:52:00,890 --> 02:52:03,410
No, because I don't just manage to shake it or let me do this.

2059
02:52:05,190 --> 02:52:07,590
Okay, so, well, I'm going to start a nervous,

2060
02:52:07,630 --> 02:52:10,550
I mean, one in first, that, and that,

2061
02:52:10,650 --> 02:52:12,470
that I have to eat in j's and drink in springs.

2062
02:52:14,110 --> 02:52:15,250
So it's pretty small.

2063
02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:16,390
Yep, yep, yep.

2064
02:52:17,050 --> 02:52:19,050
Based on what you said, the question is,

2065
02:52:19,290 --> 02:52:22,290
if that area goes, no, do you fail to be a carpenter?

2066
02:52:23,210 --> 02:52:24,810
Because of those, because of those areas.

2067
02:52:25,710 --> 02:52:25,770
Right.

2068
02:52:25,770 --> 02:52:28,470
And I think this is what Mark's getting at.

2069
02:52:28,470 --> 02:52:31,110
This right here, which is now covered with my fingers,

2070
02:52:31,430 --> 02:52:33,090
we need you to take a treatment one.

2071
02:52:33,330 --> 02:52:34,270
It's about, excuse me, my fingers.

2072
02:52:34,270 --> 02:52:35,050
You're messing around with me.

2073
02:52:36,290 --> 02:52:39,010
And that, in fact, is easily able to take care of this way.

2074
02:52:40,610 --> 02:52:42,750
I worry, the answer to the both of us is now,

2075
02:52:42,770 --> 02:52:44,350
we need to just sign up, I understand.

2076
02:52:44,770 --> 02:52:49,130
The question then becomes, this is, I believe,

2077
02:52:50,170 --> 02:52:53,170
needs to take a media role.

2078
02:52:53,690 --> 02:52:57,010
That's what we need to all say, let us kind of string in through there.

2079
02:52:57,010 --> 02:52:57,890
I would like to say a question.

2080
02:52:58,870 --> 02:53:03,230
There, the Netherlands, with the light.

2081
02:53:03,690 --> 02:53:08,490
Of course, as the Netherlands area, and the Nazis of the other.

2082
02:53:10,650 --> 02:53:15,010
So I think the question for you is which,

2083
02:53:16,110 --> 02:53:20,570
the failure of which E.T.J. makes you say,

2084
02:53:20,570 --> 02:53:25,370
bracket all over. Well, I think, I think, again, just from my perspective, I think definitely

2085
02:53:25,370 --> 02:53:32,050
the ETA, I'd say, Marcus and City Cop. I mean, that doesn't make sense. So, if that

2086
02:53:32,050 --> 02:53:38,370
doesn't work, and then beyond that, the county court needs to make a decision on what they feel

2087
02:53:38,370 --> 02:53:48,230
comfortable with because that is going to be our care and problem. Wherever we were just pointing

2088
02:53:48,230 --> 02:53:54,250
you know, in the other areas. And frankly, as one member of this court, I would rather deal with it more

2089
02:53:54,250 --> 02:54:00,930
comprehensively and holistically, again, just kind of starting over, maybe with an exception of the corner somewhere.

2090
02:54:01,410 --> 02:54:10,730
But for the most part, I'd rather start over instead of continuing this kind of hodgepodge in this process we've had in place now for as long as I'm here.

2091
02:54:10,730 --> 02:54:18,430
Yeah, but to some degree, I agree with that, but if you go and have your meetings with these

2092
02:54:18,430 --> 02:54:23,470
folks, you know, and I would encourage you that you need to go have meetings with the community,

2093
02:54:24,130 --> 02:54:33,290
and if they both, yes, that they want that provided, then why would we say, if they both

2094
02:54:33,290 --> 02:54:40,010
Yes, heavily in those areas, because apparently, and I guess I knew, you know, before this

2095
02:54:40,010 --> 02:54:44,250
day that we were going to have to separate, talking to Joyce, that we were going to have

2096
02:54:44,250 --> 02:54:52,190
to separate the votes of, you know, depending on what ETA they were in, which is seems

2097
02:54:52,190 --> 02:54:52,510
crazy.

2098
02:54:52,950 --> 02:54:59,030
But anyway, if we're going to have to do that, and if those areas in need are walled, you

2099
02:54:59,030 --> 02:54:59,930
land in Boca.

2100
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:06,960
Assembly, yes, they wanted them, but did we not support them for as did you live in the E.T.J. Sunmarkers?

2101
02:55:07,080 --> 02:55:07,280
Correct.

2102
02:55:07,600 --> 02:55:08,820
You're me voting on this.

2103
02:55:08,920 --> 02:55:09,620
That's right.

2104
02:55:09,760 --> 02:55:11,880
Mark, you live in the E.T.J., you live in the city.

2105
02:55:13,700 --> 02:55:14,220
What do you live?

2106
02:55:14,300 --> 02:55:15,680
I'm out of this judge, I live.

2107
02:55:16,340 --> 02:55:16,600
I live in this.

2108
02:55:16,600 --> 02:55:17,280
Can we clap?

2109
02:55:17,460 --> 02:55:29,060
No, I'm a judge, I'm a judge, I'm a judge, I'm a judge, I'm a judge, I'm a judge, I'm a judge.

2110
02:55:29,060 --> 02:55:35,360
and inclusive, you know, we'd want the entire district to support this, but if we don't,

2111
02:55:35,380 --> 02:55:40,340
to then. I guess what I'm going to do, there's always in the people, and what we're going to do,

2112
02:55:40,340 --> 02:55:45,860
what I'm going to do, if it doesn't, and let's hope that we can educate people as a community,

2113
02:55:46,120 --> 02:55:53,780
and they understand it as is all over. What I'm trying to prevent is the status quo of this county

2114
02:55:53,780 --> 02:56:05,600
continuing to have to deal with this situation through countywide budgets as we will have to do

2115
02:56:05,600 --> 02:56:14,860
to some degree. If, for example, the E.T. J. and Sam Marcus passes and the E.T. J. J. and

2116
02:56:14,860 --> 02:56:23,760
the E.T. J. and the E.T. J. and the E.T. J. J. and the E.T. J. and Carl were to fail. It's a

2117
02:56:23,760 --> 02:56:26,120
different problem, but we're in the same problem.

2118
02:56:26,460 --> 02:56:28,860
So why not just start over and make it cup, make it?

2119
02:56:28,860 --> 02:56:31,360
Well, the solution, you know, they're still pretty good.

2120
02:56:31,740 --> 02:56:33,720
It's been a while, it's pretty efficient.

2121
02:56:34,380 --> 02:56:35,420
We'll still be perfect.

2122
02:56:35,860 --> 02:56:38,760
Well, we'll do a bigger degree than we are now.

2123
02:56:39,560 --> 02:56:42,220
But it's what solution is a county-wide ESD.

2124
02:56:43,240 --> 02:56:46,900
I think, well, I take a few with that, but of course you did.

2125
02:56:47,340 --> 02:56:50,500
But I'm telling you that that's the ultimate solution.

2126
02:56:50,980 --> 02:56:51,940
But not for the taxpayer.

2127
02:56:52,340 --> 02:56:52,820
That's right.

2128
02:56:52,820 --> 02:57:04,640
I'm sure commissionering is B.A. You're right, but it's just, I think it makes it harder, I think it just makes it harder to explain the issue even further, frankly.

2129
02:57:05,720 --> 02:57:10,320
And then how do you provide a decent level of service?

2130
02:57:10,920 --> 02:57:14,860
I'm much as a grain, perhaps, with the folks in the dripping E.T.J.

2131
02:57:15,040 --> 02:57:21,280
I mean, that's, as I understand it, a very small one. You actually know what area that is, what sort of vision that might be,

2132
02:57:21,280 --> 02:57:22,280
or anything.

2133
02:57:24,300 --> 02:57:24,800
Dr. J!

2134
02:57:24,800 --> 02:57:27,000
Dr. J is the deputy, D R, and je can't!

2135
02:57:27,000 --> 02:57:27,420
Dr. J is the deputy.

2136
02:57:27,880 --> 02:57:28,500
Dr. J is the deputy, D. J from Caldero.

2137
02:57:28,920 --> 02:57:29,120
Here you have it!

2138
02:57:29,180 --> 02:57:30,000
Come bowl with cob.

2139
02:57:30,220 --> 02:57:33,480
That is Donald's German ranch, and this is 1967 right here.

2140
02:57:33,860 --> 02:57:34,220
Okay.

2141
02:57:35,600 --> 02:57:36,840
Those are good businesses for the barn.

2142
02:57:37,100 --> 02:57:39,480
Yeah, so long how much a weak and linear MS.

2143
02:57:39,520 --> 02:57:41,820
Hays can't sell or because he's kind of GMS today.

2144
02:57:43,200 --> 02:57:44,760
Oh, 400 per.

2145
02:57:44,940 --> 02:57:49,880
I believe 425 was our last year's budget amount.

2146
02:57:49,880 --> 02:57:59,620
We have more than that for next year's budget, which regards the success or value of the creation of this, that we will be funding the MS for at least.

2147
02:58:00,080 --> 02:58:14,900
So we're funding 425 right now, and if this district is partially maybe created, we could still be funding, possibly that much, maybe a little less depending on what areas are, you know, it's want to be in it.

2148
02:58:14,900 --> 02:58:19,820
But if we scrap that and start all over, then we're probably going to be funding

2149
02:58:20,300 --> 02:58:24,260
Samarkasace County MS700,000 or more?

2150
02:58:25,140 --> 02:58:26,380
I would guess somewhere in London.

2151
02:58:26,540 --> 02:58:27,700
It's a long run there.

2152
02:58:27,800 --> 02:58:28,620
It's sitting right there.

2153
02:58:28,740 --> 02:58:30,660
You're getting the MS services now.

2154
02:58:31,420 --> 02:58:34,080
But if you create this digital, you're going to get taxed.

2155
02:58:34,340 --> 02:58:34,380
Right.

2156
02:58:34,580 --> 02:58:40,520
And that's probably inequality of the system as I live in the E.T.J. Samarkas

2157
02:58:40,520 --> 02:58:45,400
increasing three where currently I have self-hased fire is my SD. I do not have any MS,

2158
02:58:45,800 --> 02:58:49,840
the SD, and I do not pay a city tax. So I'm one of those that is receiving

2159
02:58:49,840 --> 02:58:55,940
the MS via the Hayes County's funding of St. Marketsay, where Mr. Kennedy loves

2160
02:58:55,940 --> 02:58:58,660
he lives in a different situation and he has to pay.

2161
02:58:58,760 --> 02:58:59,600
I pay twice.

2162
02:58:59,660 --> 02:59:01,040
I have to do different entities.

2163
02:59:02,980 --> 02:59:04,980
I think that's the same thing so that I do.

2164
02:59:05,160 --> 02:59:09,720
So I think that's what this the idea was that this would somehow be able to clear that

2165
02:59:09,720 --> 02:59:14,480
But the problem is, when you count the votes individually by jurisdiction, is when the confusion can happen.

2166
02:59:15,420 --> 02:59:25,620
I would say it's less likely that ETAs or cities need a wall, or Eland would pass it, and another large jurisdiction would not pass, and it would still be created.

2167
02:59:25,720 --> 02:59:28,160
I don't think that's probably a possibility, just because of numbers.

2168
02:59:29,420 --> 02:59:36,960
The more likelihood is that it gets created by 51 percent, and that there are some jurisdictions that did not approve it, that's more likely.

2169
02:59:36,960 --> 02:59:44,040
maybe you went, says no, 50% of the people on you and show up and say no, however, 51%

2170
02:59:44,040 --> 02:59:49,660
of the total district voted yes. That's much more likely than need a hold and you went

2171
02:59:49,660 --> 02:59:56,860
supporting it and then it not being created. If it's going to get created, it's going

2172
02:59:56,860 --> 02:59:59,820
to take 51% of the people that are within the side of that.

2173
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:21,820
And we have to make that to me. Right, you have to determine which one of those are important to its creation or not. I think the E.T.Js of Kyle and Sam Marcus are the most important when it comes to that. And just the functionality of what that service would be. If you were had little holes that you did cover, and then you, there was a reason to serve.

2174
03:00:21,820 --> 03:00:25,080
I'm trying to look beyond, as the Christian has identified,

2175
03:00:25,380 --> 03:00:30,100
a very real threat, short-term benefits to county institutions,

2176
03:00:31,220 --> 03:00:40,100
to the longer-term best and most efficient operation in district.

2177
03:00:41,360 --> 03:00:47,340
And if say some of those pockets for whatever different reasons that we can predict or know,

2178
03:00:47,340 --> 03:00:51,740
It's why I think if it's a funding issue for the SDI, I think that Prashmack has one

2179
03:00:51,740 --> 03:00:52,200
commissioner.

2180
03:00:52,920 --> 03:00:58,000
Prashmack, the county can work with them to put some information in people's mailboxes,

2181
03:00:58,060 --> 03:01:00,080
because it's very, very confusing to people.

2182
03:01:03,310 --> 03:01:09,630
What let me ask you this commissioner, at that point in time, let's say, let's say, those folks

2183
03:01:09,630 --> 03:01:14,830
over it, you decide for some reason to vote against an airplane as a pass.

2184
03:01:16,010 --> 03:01:33,210
What is the argument beyond the greater good of the community and good citizenship for them to ever, at that point in time, not have the county funds, of course, and for the ESD.

2185
03:01:33,330 --> 03:01:40,070
Can I talk about that? Mr. Chair, what is a one cent change in tax worth?

2186
03:01:41,650 --> 03:01:46,670
For Hayes County, I think it's going to be 1.6 million for fiscal year 17.

2187
03:01:47,610 --> 03:01:52,590
So, when you look at it, they have much of your taxes going to a certain cost.

2188
03:01:53,450 --> 03:01:54,830
Then you can put it in reality.

2189
03:01:55,290 --> 03:01:57,030
You will stuck with that in corporate school.

2190
03:01:57,570 --> 03:02:03,270
And it's, you know, the, the, the, the county funds are Samarkis Hayes through the partnership with Samarkis,

2191
03:02:03,370 --> 03:02:06,550
and then other contracts did entities, which included the city of Kyle and others.

2192
03:02:07,750 --> 03:02:15,010
The county's portion of that, which, whether it's 425 or more, is not going to equal what

2193
03:02:15,010 --> 03:02:18,930
the rate for the person voting for the CDC is going to see.

2194
03:02:19,610 --> 03:02:27,310
So to them, it's 4 cents on their valuation, obviously, the county portion of that is nowhere

2195
03:02:27,310 --> 03:02:28,450
near 4 cents right now.

2196
03:02:28,670 --> 03:02:28,970
It's correct.

2197
03:02:29,610 --> 03:02:34,690
It's a very small percentage, so that's part of it they are going to be voting to either

2198
03:02:34,690 --> 03:02:37,930
create the tax and entity, or not create a tax and entity.

2199
03:02:38,590 --> 03:02:44,090
That's the first question in that I would hate for someone to believe that if they vote for it,

2200
03:02:44,370 --> 03:02:50,750
and create a forcent tax increase on their property, that they're going to somehow see a forcent tax decrease.

2201
03:02:50,970 --> 03:02:57,030
I'm going to have from either the city of Kyle, Hayes County, or any other property tax jurisdiction,

2202
03:02:57,610 --> 03:02:59,890
because that's not, that isn't how it's working right now.

2203
03:02:59,890 --> 03:03:03,510
will just like the ACC district in common.

2204
03:03:03,510 --> 03:03:04,550
Same difference.

2205
03:03:05,070 --> 03:03:07,550
Just because ACC poses a nine-cent text

2206
03:03:07,550 --> 03:03:10,670
is not mean your county or city text go down to nine cents.

2207
03:03:11,110 --> 03:03:12,310
It just doesn't work out that way.

2208
03:03:12,930 --> 03:03:15,690
Now, why should I vote for this?

2209
03:03:16,250 --> 03:03:18,730
When I'm going to be charged four cents,

2210
03:03:19,190 --> 03:03:21,250
and I'm already paying county taxes,

2211
03:03:22,990 --> 03:03:24,610
but how will my service improve?

2212
03:03:27,250 --> 03:03:28,510
I think the biggest thing is

2213
03:03:28,510 --> 03:03:30,310
like Commissioner Collie Talks in Wembley.

2214
03:03:30,310 --> 03:03:33,670
They look for a brilliant mess because they have local control over them.

2215
03:03:33,910 --> 03:03:37,610
They get to make a decision as a community on how they provide the MS services.

2216
03:03:38,630 --> 03:03:42,830
One of the biggest issues is the fact that with having multiple government agencies

2217
03:03:42,830 --> 03:03:48,330
participating in funding the MS service is the charity care and only falls in the

2218
03:03:48,330 --> 03:03:53,510
counties in some of the seasers and water coming individuals and to make those

2219
03:03:53,510 --> 03:03:56,250
share of expenses that will become very difficult.

2220
03:03:56,990 --> 03:04:03,830
Well, you know, it's like, it's like the roads that are in Northern Peas County, I don't use those very often, but I pay for them, that's the way it works.

2221
03:04:04,550 --> 03:04:07,730
It's good, I don't have anybody in school, but I pay for them.

2222
03:04:07,830 --> 03:04:11,530
All the school district buildings and all of that, the salaries and everything else.

2223
03:04:11,870 --> 03:04:14,270
But that's just the way it works in the democratic society.

2224
03:04:15,170 --> 03:04:20,410
This is one chance we give people its opportunity to vote on who gets taxed and how much.

2225
03:04:21,950 --> 03:04:22,990
And that's just part of it.

2226
03:04:22,990 --> 03:04:29,350
and judge may I ask how much is the win berley, Julia how much is the jailsteads work, it's

2227
03:04:29,990 --> 03:04:32,750
it's most likely the 6.980.

2228
03:04:36,080 --> 03:04:39,960
They're not a lot of commercial interest carrying that in the win blue valley either, that's

2229
03:04:40,580 --> 03:04:41,060
predominately.

2230
03:04:41,280 --> 03:04:45,920
What are you going to have at the Lorne tax, city tax, so

2231
03:04:45,920 --> 03:04:49,520
the city as you know judge is a very small part of the valley, so

2232
03:04:49,520 --> 03:04:52,520
that's a, but they tend to control everything I get also.

2233
03:04:53,200 --> 03:04:54,520
Can I just judge the version?

2234
03:04:54,520 --> 03:05:00,000
If it fails and we determine that and we scrap it, then we need to...

2235
03:05:01,280 --> 03:05:26,920
We're going to have to come up in a big way. Funding is not just going to be important. And we've got to be committed to that because this is important. And it's just like you say. I mean, we always hope that we don't have to use the service. But when it's one of our loved ones, and it's needed and we expect it. And so we're going to have to be willing to provide funding for that.

2236
03:05:26,920 --> 03:05:30,000
and we talked to the death of the server.

2237
03:05:30,300 --> 03:05:31,220
What's the most important thing?

2238
03:05:31,360 --> 03:05:32,000
They want to say mission.

2239
03:05:32,260 --> 03:05:33,920
There's been patiently listening to them.

2240
03:05:34,360 --> 03:05:36,360
So if everybody wants to go to lunch,

2241
03:05:36,460 --> 03:05:37,140
you'd better break down,

2242
03:05:37,340 --> 03:05:38,920
because I'm going to have my work there.

2243
03:05:39,260 --> 03:05:39,600
All right.

2244
03:05:39,960 --> 03:05:40,700
Here you go.

2245
03:05:41,240 --> 03:05:42,020
This is your chance.

2246
03:05:42,520 --> 03:05:43,720
Well, that's not my chance.

2247
03:05:43,860 --> 03:05:46,380
It's the chances for all the other people

2248
03:05:46,380 --> 03:05:47,900
paying taxes and hay scouting

2249
03:05:47,900 --> 03:05:50,020
in the other existing ESDs,

2250
03:05:50,020 --> 03:05:51,320
either fire or CMS.

2251
03:05:52,220 --> 03:05:54,060
Because those are areas that are

2252
03:05:54,060 --> 03:05:55,600
somewhat bound by community.

2253
03:05:55,600 --> 03:06:00,860
But if you look very closely, you'll find that they're also bound by topography and geography.

2254
03:06:02,140 --> 03:06:07,740
And when you're providing an emergent service via our medical, the district you have to

2255
03:06:07,740 --> 03:06:09,760
travel to provide that service becomes important.

2256
03:06:11,340 --> 03:06:17,140
The ability to provide that service, in my opinion, because of the circumstances across

2257
03:06:17,140 --> 03:06:24,020
our county, is not only a consideration of life, it's a consideration of responsibility.

2258
03:06:25,540 --> 03:06:36,980
Now, Hayes County has always and probably will continue to provide an opportunity for medical service across this county.

2259
03:06:37,940 --> 03:06:44,540
And I think we have a lot of years that we can thank the opportunity we were able to do that through the San Marcos Hayes County MS.

2260
03:06:44,540 --> 03:06:52,080
But the circumstances with the financing, the ability to plan for that service as a service,

2261
03:06:52,220 --> 03:06:58,620
a nonprofit service compared to an established taxing district has found its ability

2262
03:06:58,620 --> 03:07:05,260
waning and will even go further away because of changes in federal law, because of changes

2263
03:07:05,260 --> 03:07:05,960
in demographics.

2264
03:07:07,360 --> 03:07:12,320
So I think as a responsible county commissioner, the reason I think this should be supported

2265
03:07:12,320 --> 03:07:18,360
is because it provides an equitable base for all the general communities and

2266
03:07:18,360 --> 03:07:24,640
Hayes County to take up the responsibility of providing an emergency service that

2267
03:07:24,640 --> 03:07:31,980
they have an ability to have direct say so in by the reference that would be

2268
03:07:31,980 --> 03:07:35,740
posed on necessary in the particular areas of jurisdiction.

2269
03:07:37,540 --> 03:07:40,100
Will it mean more taxes to some of the people in that area?

2270
03:07:40,100 --> 03:07:47,480
I can't help the thing that it will, but what they don't have right now is an ability to vote directly in it.

2271
03:07:48,020 --> 03:07:57,900
And what their neighbors in four fifths of the rest of this county don't have is a tax burden that is not their direct consideration.

2272
03:07:58,080 --> 03:08:05,960
They only get to vote for one commissioner and one part of the rest of that county, compared to the one commissioner too.

2273
03:08:05,960 --> 03:08:09,080
It's quite frankly, I have responsibility in this area too.

2274
03:08:09,220 --> 03:08:15,880
I have citizens in precinct four in this area, but at some point in time, if the county

2275
03:08:16,460 --> 03:08:22,860
doesn't provide the opportunity for our citizens to exercise their responsibilities that

2276
03:08:22,860 --> 03:08:24,820
I think we find ourselves at some fault.

2277
03:08:25,520 --> 03:08:30,700
Now, in a practical term, if the county, which is the only area we have for jurisdiction

2278
03:08:30,700 --> 03:08:35,920
in the unincorporated area, if you think that's a patchwork map, you ought to see this

2279
03:08:35,920 --> 03:08:42,520
county compared to E.T.J. and non-incarparinitaries. And if you think this county or any other administrative

2280
03:08:42,520 --> 03:08:48,560
body can put together an EMS service that serves only the unincarparinitaries and Hayes County as

2281
03:08:48,560 --> 03:08:54,740
it's currently configured, probably would be more so in the future I think is an exercise that's

2282
03:08:54,740 --> 03:09:01,010
not good because I can't find any effective ability in that. The communities are the ones that

2283
03:09:01,010 --> 03:09:06,730
find their first effective community ability and also should be their responsibility.

2284
03:09:07,670 --> 03:09:13,010
If it's some point in time, the Hayes County map is covered, there's nothing but E.T.J.

2285
03:09:13,150 --> 03:09:17,930
municipality, quite frankly, ladies and gentlemen, those cities must take to add to you

2286
03:09:17,930 --> 03:09:20,670
then take up the responsibility of their emergent services.

2287
03:09:21,370 --> 03:09:26,010
But this is the best thing I think Hayes County can do right now because it exercise

2288
03:09:26,010 --> 03:09:32,970
responsibilities, self-determination, and equity. Thank you for the time. Thank you, Peter

2289
03:09:32,970 --> 03:09:34,250
Henry. Appreciate it.

2290
03:09:34,330 --> 03:09:34,970
Well, you're responsible.

2291
03:09:36,170 --> 03:09:36,990
Some passes.

2292
03:09:38,710 --> 03:09:43,950
I can tell you exactly what I think, because we just experienced this, and he is the one.

2293
03:09:44,950 --> 03:09:49,490
We are public servants, whether you're elected or appointed, and you have the responsibility

2294
03:09:49,490 --> 03:09:52,490
to do the best you can with what you have to work with.

2295
03:09:52,490 --> 03:09:59,930
Now that might be mean you're going to have the best, that mean you're going to have the worst, but the responsibility is still there to provide what you can.

2296
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:19,080
The end within the bounds of your ability. I would also note that if Chief Smith feels like that in a range of four to five senses, an operative cap for his referendum, his authority created by referendum, that makes it the second lowest in this county quite frankly.

2297
03:10:20,440 --> 03:10:23,800
There's only one other lower and that's the SD1.

2298
03:10:26,650 --> 03:10:28,350
So two things on the table,

2299
03:10:28,710 --> 03:10:33,430
or at least one direct thing, what is our decision on?

2300
03:10:33,590 --> 03:10:35,850
If certain ETCJs fail and some don't,

2301
03:10:35,990 --> 03:10:41,070
how do we want to view that in the maintaining

2302
03:10:41,070 --> 03:10:44,050
this new district or starting over basically?

2303
03:10:44,770 --> 03:10:49,850
And then two would be the question of the cap and right now

2304
03:10:49,850 --> 03:10:58,330
at the state maximum, I would like to cap that at a lower rate and would like to have a discussion

2305
03:10:58,330 --> 03:11:02,370
about that one if you'd be reasonable and responsible about that front, I think it's a

2306
03:11:02,370 --> 03:11:08,110
good measure. This is almost like a Supreme Court appointment. You get kind of one shot

2307
03:11:08,110 --> 03:11:11,090
to have headphones over this and then it's kind of all.

2308
03:11:12,350 --> 03:11:19,350
If you set up a maximum now, then they can always go back to the voters and race. That's

2309
03:11:19,350 --> 03:11:23,470
right, just and that's what we're trying to accomplish, but we don't want to make up something

2310
03:11:23,470 --> 03:11:23,810
silly.

2311
03:11:23,990 --> 03:11:28,090
We don't want to cap it at one cent, we're six months from now, one that can't do their job

2312
03:11:28,090 --> 03:11:30,870
at six months from now, they're like, who once said it doesn't work, and that's the

2313
03:11:31,250 --> 03:11:35,650
He's done the numbers, and you were saying it's between three and four percent.

2314
03:11:36,690 --> 03:11:38,190
It's right, it's right, it's right.

2315
03:11:38,250 --> 03:11:41,450
I think three, nine, seven was the one we had, but that's what it does.

2316
03:11:41,670 --> 03:11:42,570
It doesn't make sense.

2317
03:11:44,110 --> 03:11:48,390
It doesn't make sense to make it an optimal from the beginning, because you said the

2318
03:11:48,390 --> 03:11:50,510
So low that you can't possibly make it.

2319
03:11:50,770 --> 03:11:54,710
Now I would like to see, I would like to see values that have been estimated in that area.

2320
03:11:54,730 --> 03:11:57,030
There's a lot of commercial development in that area.

2321
03:11:58,130 --> 03:12:06,110
So how things normally work is that should be able to maintain a low rate and not get up with that out.

2322
03:12:06,630 --> 03:12:17,650
So we can take a break and we can evaluate that data to make a reasonable decision without that data

2323
03:12:17,650 --> 03:12:26,310
information, I think, where I'm comfortable at right now is capping at least at no higher than

2324
03:12:26,310 --> 03:12:33,550
six cents. And going from there, I'd like it to be lower, but you're telling me. Part of the

2325
03:12:33,550 --> 03:12:41,150
figure out a thing, Commissioner, is the feasibility is if you don't have four cents that you

2326
03:12:41,150 --> 03:12:45,550
are not feasible. But what I'm saying, Judge, since this is a newly drawn jurisdiction,

2327
03:12:45,550 --> 03:12:55,070
I don't have those values, I don't know if it's $2 billion in that district or if it's $10 billion.

2328
03:12:55,590 --> 03:12:57,170
It's picking up for example.

2329
03:12:57,730 --> 03:13:00,630
It's a lot of commercial development in precinct one.

2330
03:13:01,110 --> 03:13:04,510
That should help carry the bills for.

2331
03:13:04,510 --> 03:13:06,850
There's quite a bit in for most of the time.

2332
03:13:07,310 --> 03:13:09,470
T.T.J. of Kyle and Brian.

2333
03:13:09,930 --> 03:13:12,670
There's all kinds of places that are spreading.

2334
03:13:12,670 --> 03:13:17,450
And that's one of our issues we're discussing later in our agenda.

2335
03:13:18,230 --> 03:13:21,530
I don't know if the court agrees with that, but at the minimum, I think we need to

2336
03:13:21,530 --> 03:13:23,150
cap it at six.

2337
03:13:24,670 --> 03:13:27,110
And right now it's written in the Resolutionist Tint.

2338
03:13:27,990 --> 03:13:30,450
Well, that's the legal standard from the state.

2339
03:13:30,590 --> 03:13:31,070
That's the state.

2340
03:13:31,210 --> 03:13:32,010
That's the state.

2341
03:13:32,010 --> 03:13:32,350
Yes, sir.

2342
03:13:33,050 --> 03:13:33,370
What do you think?

2343
03:13:33,410 --> 03:13:34,250
I would agree.

2344
03:13:34,510 --> 03:13:35,550
I think.

2345
03:13:37,210 --> 03:13:40,550
If nothing else, if you're going to vote over there for any of them, I think you need

2346
03:13:40,550 --> 03:13:46,310
exhibit that your purpose is there and that your responsibility and it is that you're providing

2347
03:13:46,310 --> 03:13:51,850
the best estimate you can to provide that service and at some point less than what the

2348
03:13:51,850 --> 03:13:59,130
state maximum is because there are there are a number of districts in Hayes County that

2349
03:13:59,130 --> 03:14:05,070
have a cap that's at the state maximum. But I'm not aware of any of them that tax it any

2350
03:14:05,070 --> 03:14:08,470
right higher than about 7.6, I think.

2351
03:14:08,810 --> 03:14:10,730
That was a big discussion in Kyle, wasn't it?

2352
03:14:10,730 --> 03:14:11,830
Yeah, I'm hearing him.

2353
03:14:11,830 --> 03:14:12,350
We could, in that.

2354
03:14:12,350 --> 03:14:14,830
That could be greater, but here he is.

2355
03:14:15,310 --> 03:14:24,010
It varies by each annual budget, but they too are quite honestly directly affected by the same thing

2356
03:14:24,010 --> 03:14:26,050
that's affecting some orchestra's gap.

2357
03:14:26,870 --> 03:14:32,590
It's the ability to create and provide revenue for the base service from the revenue

2358
03:14:32,590 --> 03:14:37,690
abilities that you have or plan to have in the foreseeable future.

2359
03:14:38,310 --> 03:14:43,130
There's lots of happening in those that those that that's committed down in Andy or.

2360
03:14:44,290 --> 03:14:45,810
I'm sorry Mr. Richardson.

2361
03:14:46,390 --> 03:14:48,450
Chief, do you have any of those that's committed values?

2362
03:14:48,770 --> 03:14:50,530
Well, you can call the presentation given.

2363
03:14:50,830 --> 03:14:56,250
We just need Hayes called World One, EST-5, EST-3, that will give you the total evaluation.

2364
03:14:56,650 --> 03:14:57,310
Those three five.

2365
03:14:57,410 --> 03:14:58,290
I have to do that.

2366
03:14:58,290 --> 03:14:59,250
Come up with an estimate.

2367
03:14:59,250 --> 03:14:59,990
you have

2368
03:15:01,580 --> 03:15:10,500
That's why he said four cents. We just don't have the latest ones. We're always seeking the last one more thing for you.

2369
03:15:10,880 --> 03:15:23,000
Okay, what are we going to do? So, I've modified the resolution to reflect the six cents. First discuss this article three again one more time, if you'll entertain me.

2370
03:15:23,000 --> 03:15:25,780
And let me just talk out some options.

2371
03:15:27,240 --> 03:15:30,600
Currently, it's drafted that if a majority of the voters

2372
03:15:30,600 --> 03:15:35,480
within the city of Sam Marcus's ETA, or a majority of the voters

2373
03:15:35,480 --> 03:15:40,260
within Kyle's ETA, ETA vote, no, then it's not feasible.

2374
03:15:40,460 --> 03:15:44,320
And I believe that's what I heard Commissioner Conley say.

2375
03:15:44,340 --> 03:15:44,780
For sure.

2376
03:15:45,120 --> 03:15:50,260
It could be that you state that as an end, instead of an war,

2377
03:15:50,260 --> 03:15:55,980
meaning that if this area and this area together both know that it's not feasible,

2378
03:15:58,560 --> 03:15:59,120
alternatively,

2379
03:16:00,680 --> 03:16:07,020
and you know, I referenced bisecting the coverage area of the district earlier, if the

2380
03:16:07,020 --> 03:16:09,120
ETJ of Sam Marcus did vote no,

2381
03:16:11,510 --> 03:16:16,530
and the ETJ of Kyle voted yes, you would still have a continuous

2382
03:16:16,530 --> 03:16:25,770
district that runs up through this area and the status quo could be maintained here by way of a contract

2383
03:16:25,770 --> 03:16:35,870
with either what St. Marcus creates or what the ESD has service-wise or both some combination

2384
03:16:35,870 --> 03:16:43,050
in their own and they can still contract with tribe. Redwood and that bond. In that instance

2385
03:16:43,050 --> 03:16:51,510
In that instance, we would only list a no vote from the city of Kyle, in Article 3, and not a no vote from the same market.

2386
03:16:53,430 --> 03:16:55,090
So Kyle would be the fabric.

2387
03:16:55,750 --> 03:16:57,830
The E.T.J. of Kyle, sort of that is.

2388
03:16:58,270 --> 03:17:10,410
And if the city of San Marcos and E.T.J. were to say no, and this thing still receives 51% of the population in Kyle and its E.T.J. at most likely said yes.

2389
03:17:10,410 --> 03:17:14,390
if not, it's not passing anyway, and there's, I think there's enough population in

2390
03:17:14,390 --> 03:17:19,710
the same RPCTJ that, 51% of the people in the same RPCTJ vote note, and it still

2391
03:17:19,710 --> 03:17:24,370
gets created, it must be because pile overwhelmingly supported its creation.

2392
03:17:24,670 --> 03:17:24,790
That's right.

2393
03:17:27,960 --> 03:17:32,420
Okay, would you accept it with that 6% cap?

2394
03:17:33,320 --> 03:17:39,440
That's the 4% cap, but I want to head and made the edit, because I did not hear any objection

2395
03:17:39,440 --> 03:17:46,700
court obviously I can make any other edit that court resolved to make. So in our resolution here

2396
03:17:46,700 --> 03:17:57,220
we say it's feasible and we're setting that we're setting the tax rate which is really

2397
03:17:57,220 --> 03:18:01,060
getting the heart for the horse and in the mags and the mags and the mags and the mags and the

2398
03:18:01,060 --> 03:18:09,140
mags but what we're doing is we're also given the permission to move forward that's to hold it

2399
03:18:09,140 --> 03:18:16,580
the election. So I need a motion. We still need to make a finding on item three judge if you

2400
03:18:16,580 --> 03:18:21,380
go. Yeah, so that's not what we already done that. I have not heard clearly where. Yeah.

2401
03:18:21,600 --> 03:18:31,220
Well, I want a clarification. So if the city are the T.J. of San Marcos, let's know what everybody else

2402
03:18:32,380 --> 03:18:37,600
is like yes, then it's created but without the T.J. of the city of San Marcos.

2403
03:18:38,640 --> 03:18:45,840
Yes, that would, so item three, then would read, however, if the majority of the voters in the city of

2404
03:18:45,840 --> 03:18:52,420
Kyle's E.T.J. do not approve, then then it's no longer feasible.

2405
03:18:53,160 --> 03:19:00,940
In other words, you're accounting for the possibility that this area could vote no, and that the district is created anyway.

2406
03:19:01,800 --> 03:19:10,200
And as lawn stated, if a majority of these people vote no, considering populations, and

2407
03:19:10,200 --> 03:19:15,320
you could assume that overwhelmingly this area must have voted yes, either that or based

2408
03:19:15,320 --> 03:19:22,220
on voter turnout, we have a lot of sighted count, but like I say, you're not going to be

2409
03:19:22,220 --> 03:19:24,700
able to cover all possibilities in this piece of paper.

2410
03:19:25,540 --> 03:19:32,140
Well, we just need to cover this one sufficient for the court to find for feasibility under

2411
03:19:32,140 --> 03:19:32,700
all.

2412
03:19:32,740 --> 03:19:37,040
I think that question, Chief Smith, do you understand that?

2413
03:19:37,140 --> 03:19:42,680
And you feel like that gives your possible ability to operate a fair chance.

2414
03:19:43,220 --> 03:19:45,840
I think the biggest threat is those two large D.T.J.s.

2415
03:19:46,820 --> 03:19:50,640
But the hope that we don't fragment it to bring these services all together has the ultimate

2416
03:19:50,640 --> 03:19:52,300
goal and that's what we're going to shoot for.

2417
03:19:52,300 --> 03:19:59,780
But I do agree with you, there is a point in which it becomes not feasible and we have to go a lot sometime and I think it will not do it.

2418
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:10,900
Order of the chief, but it's not just about servicing those areas, becomes complicated enough with holes of your service, where you can stage your staff and your ambulances, but also the tax base.

2419
03:20:11,840 --> 03:20:17,060
Obviously if you remove the same RECTJ tax base out of that equation, I don't know how that affects.

2420
03:20:17,840 --> 03:20:22,000
I don't know how related the services to the tax rate on the rest of the population.

2421
03:20:22,000 --> 03:20:28,060
population. It may be that it may be by subtracting that service area and losing that tax

2422
03:20:28,060 --> 03:20:33,720
space that it's a wash. Or it could be that that taxing area is somewhat subsidizing

2423
03:20:33,720 --> 03:20:37,820
another area of the service. And it can be because of geography and distances and things like

2424
03:20:37,820 --> 03:20:42,960
that's a complicated equation. I don't know that I would assume a lighter. I waste waste off knowledge.

2425
03:20:43,160 --> 03:20:49,160
With commercial type development and things like that, some of those areas, there's probably

2426
03:20:49,160 --> 03:20:55,700
a little bit greater tax-based code capita in that district than there isn't some of the other parts of the county.

2427
03:20:56,780 --> 03:21:01,860
So that's obviously part of the confusion too. It's not just how to serve those areas if they're not included.

2428
03:21:02,080 --> 03:21:07,040
It's also what happens to operating that district financially if those tax-based is already included.

2429
03:21:07,760 --> 03:21:17,360
I mean, I think Mark makes a pretty good argument for the district geography working pretty well without the stamp mark with the TJ that he can still work.

2430
03:21:18,560 --> 03:21:23,800
But contiguous areas are easier to cover with the ambulances in person now.

2431
03:21:24,180 --> 03:21:28,400
I think it could still be an efficient service, and of course, you lose the tax base,

2432
03:21:28,420 --> 03:21:32,500
but at least the service remains efficient in geography and coverage area.

2433
03:21:32,740 --> 03:21:34,420
It's fairly a smaller area.

2434
03:21:35,260 --> 03:21:39,860
So I think losing that tax base, you may be able to gain that efficiencies in serving the

2435
03:21:39,860 --> 03:21:40,540
rest of the year.

2436
03:21:40,720 --> 03:21:44,420
When you're talking about kiles, E.T.J., it's a little more confusing.

2437
03:21:45,000 --> 03:21:51,660
the city of Kyle, which we've said, it's okay if they vote no, and it's a city and they

2438
03:21:51,660 --> 03:21:56,720
would then do what they need to do to provide those services, but if them and their

2439
03:21:56,720 --> 03:22:01,660
ETA votes no, I think it's still possible to numberize for it to be approved because of the

2440
03:22:01,660 --> 03:22:06,780
population of St. Marcus ETA in the rest of the area. That would be, I think, the biggest

2441
03:22:07,800 --> 03:22:13,360
concern that everyone would have is how would you serve that district without city of

2442
03:22:13,360 --> 03:22:19,260
in the city of Colesy, TJ, being in that district, both by the tax base and geography.

2443
03:22:19,620 --> 03:22:23,360
Well, I don't fully disagree with 99% of that.

2444
03:22:23,960 --> 03:22:31,380
But in the precinct three area, if the ETJ and Sam Walkers were to fail in the rest pass,

2445
03:22:32,460 --> 03:22:38,760
to cover that strip of white that is there between the Wimbly line and the Sam Walkers line,

2446
03:22:39,480 --> 03:22:41,620
there's no real way of eating there.

2447
03:22:41,620 --> 03:22:45,700
there without going cross-country.

2448
03:22:47,860 --> 03:22:53,780
I mean, seriously, I mean, that's a question probably for the SD there to see if that's

2449
03:22:53,780 --> 03:22:55,760
possible and what it would take for them to do that.

2450
03:22:55,900 --> 03:22:58,600
I mean, that point makes more sense for Wimbler to serve that area.

2451
03:22:58,600 --> 03:23:00,440
That's exactly the point.

2452
03:23:01,160 --> 03:23:05,840
But until you have entities that have the ability to either make those interlocal agreements

2453
03:23:05,840 --> 03:23:09,460
or exchange those annexed areas, you can't do that.

2454
03:23:09,460 --> 03:23:15,460
So once an entity, once an entity is created, we have several options for moving boundaries

2455
03:23:16,200 --> 03:23:19,760
the adjusting territory to a lot of the right provider in the right area.

2456
03:23:21,240 --> 03:23:27,520
And that question would be for a WimbledY MS and that ESD could they serve that area there,

2457
03:23:27,540 --> 03:23:30,540
that unincorporated area, and what would it take for them to do that?

2458
03:23:30,820 --> 03:23:34,620
Because that's basically, like, that's basically your subdivision in terms of, I mean, that area.

2459
03:23:34,620 --> 03:23:39,680
You go road and it's often cut off in water and if the same

2460
03:23:39,680 --> 03:23:43,840
Marcus E.T. Joe route in the city of San Marcos, whether they're contracting with the

2461
03:23:43,840 --> 03:23:48,200
San Marcos Hayes type entity or whether in the next few years they move towards their own

2462
03:23:48,200 --> 03:23:53,740
MMS service. That would then become the question too. With the entity that is operating

2463
03:23:53,740 --> 03:24:01,300
MMS service in the new ESD-9, would they serve any of those E.T.Js or would those E.T.Js

2464
03:24:01,300 --> 03:24:04,660
serve by the city of San Marcos and again being that it's hate's county.

2465
03:24:05,560 --> 03:24:09,840
This body would be making the decisions at that point on how they're going to fund the

2466
03:24:09,840 --> 03:24:10,300
MS.

2467
03:24:10,720 --> 03:24:11,080
For that.

2468
03:24:11,220 --> 03:24:16,140
Well, this is the first and foremost, let's do our best to educate everybody to where it passes

2469
03:24:16,140 --> 03:24:16,700
everywhere.

2470
03:24:17,440 --> 03:24:22,400
So we can have something that looks like a real district here, served properly.

2471
03:24:23,680 --> 03:24:26,560
Well, this is real state, that is bizarre.

2472
03:24:26,860 --> 03:24:30,200
A lot of intent, breakfast, and my stomach, thanks for my throat, cuts, and that's good.

2473
03:24:30,200 --> 03:24:37,640
And so I think to make it minor to situations if you lend or need a wall or

2474
03:24:37,640 --> 03:24:45,960
amount of city, but I think we can probably live with those cities or E.T.Js not being

2475
03:24:45,960 --> 03:24:50,720
part of an A still work as part of service and tax base, what it takes to run the service,

2476
03:24:50,900 --> 03:24:55,400
I think to submit would say that's not going to put a much better intent on his operation.

2477
03:24:56,400 --> 03:24:59,940
The question is, the city of San Marcos, E.T.J.

2478
03:25:01,520 --> 03:25:13,220
If that's what it comes down to would be, do they both matter? So, or a samarkis or a call, either one of them says no, it doesn't get created. Or it's just one of them more important.

2479
03:25:15,360 --> 03:25:19,200
Or are they both together? So there's kind of three options.

2480
03:25:19,200 --> 03:25:30,260
I said the both important together and I say, I say, having that sem Marcus, E.T.J. Park, go out, it is here.

2481
03:25:30,840 --> 03:25:36,500
I mean, that position has to change the financial model in which they have developed significantly.

2482
03:25:36,600 --> 03:25:48,520
Now I realize most of the commercial is in the corporate boundaries of the city, but that, I don't, it's hard to say,

2483
03:25:48,520 --> 03:25:52,260
to clarity without having those numbers

2484
03:25:52,260 --> 03:25:55,780
in front of you that you can pull back and forth,

2485
03:25:56,800 --> 03:25:59,300
but because a lot of that property to the east side,

2486
03:25:59,600 --> 03:26:01,520
for example, into the west side,

2487
03:26:02,540 --> 03:26:06,980
is agus and property, or in some type of conservation easement.

2488
03:26:08,400 --> 03:26:09,400
So it's, I don't know.

2489
03:26:09,720 --> 03:26:12,120
I'm pretty sure you just stated that you think

2490
03:26:12,120 --> 03:26:14,580
they're both important together and applying

2491
03:26:14,580 --> 03:26:18,340
that there's an end and what I hear you saying

2492
03:26:18,340 --> 03:26:24,560
The prior to this is that they're both important, separately, meaning if either E.T.J. fails,

2493
03:26:24,780 --> 03:26:28,540
you feel that we should reassess feasibility and go back to the next one.

2494
03:26:28,680 --> 03:26:29,580
That's my opinion.

2495
03:26:30,360 --> 03:26:30,940
So that's an order.

2496
03:26:30,980 --> 03:26:31,740
So you're in order.

2497
03:26:33,500 --> 03:26:34,300
Any other opinions?

2498
03:26:36,590 --> 03:26:40,750
So basically, we'd be leaving the proposed resolution as it is.

2499
03:26:41,450 --> 03:26:43,270
That's what Commissioner Connie would propose.

2500
03:26:43,790 --> 03:26:45,690
With a script or an order.

2501
03:26:45,690 --> 03:26:55,010
with the scribber's note of Andorra in the previous sentence and with a modification and section 2 to a not-to-use seed 6 cents.

2502
03:26:55,290 --> 03:26:55,410
Yeah.

2503
03:26:55,490 --> 03:27:07,190
But you know that if it's Denmark as voted, you know that the financials will still work and then the proposed acts will kindle in everybody else's.

2504
03:27:07,830 --> 03:27:14,110
There, if it would be probably on the six-camp, if the seven of us eat, if there's nothing.

2505
03:27:14,990 --> 03:27:17,850
I'll bet there's that much of a vibration in the Cali, G.L.

2506
03:27:17,890 --> 03:27:22,470
Fortersus, and this other version of the Cali, which I haven't seen in the world since 20,

2507
03:27:22,690 --> 03:27:23,510
was 18.

2508
03:27:25,430 --> 03:27:31,170
But the commercial area in the ESD-3, there's some good evaluations, you know, on a road and stuff like that.

2509
03:27:31,430 --> 03:27:36,910
Now, there's a big thing is going to come with the corporate boundaries of

2510
03:27:38,210 --> 03:27:42,130
That's worth the value and that district, because that's the same market as ours.

2511
03:27:42,230 --> 03:27:46,910
So even if Sam Marcus is out of Kyle laying the rest of the unit, this could still carry him.

2512
03:27:48,430 --> 03:27:56,910
We have to keep in mind that all of these jurisdictions, you know, because of their innate statutory abilities,

2513
03:27:57,710 --> 03:28:01,590
also have the responsibility of making the choice for their taxpayers.

2514
03:28:01,590 --> 03:28:07,050
How most professionally, effectively, they can provide cost effectively, they can provide

2515
03:28:07,050 --> 03:28:07,750
that service.

2516
03:28:09,050 --> 03:28:15,510
You can't require them to do anything, but I think at the current stage of circumstances,

2517
03:28:15,830 --> 03:28:20,730
unless you're possibly the municipality and the size of same work as the opportunity

2518
03:28:20,730 --> 03:28:25,550
for you to provide that service inside your corporate area with the abilities associated

2519
03:28:25,550 --> 03:28:27,510
with it, are going to be pretty limited.

2520
03:28:29,110 --> 03:28:48,750
And she, you know, as we've been discussing it, appears that the conversation, and it may not, but it appears to me that the conversation has kind of been leaning towards, we're not sure if the city of San Francisco, this is E.T.J. and possibly Kiles will approve. Do we have any indication supporting that?

2521
03:28:48,750 --> 03:29:04,310
The people we've talked to, one of what have been very supportive of it, but we haven't had those large town hall we do as an initial additional drive for women, people with the Christmas and the sport and Kyle we talked to lots of people there, and then talking to the individual cities.

2522
03:29:05,390 --> 03:29:13,150
So I guess you understand the importance of going out and talking to folks and trying to get them beyond board.

2523
03:29:14,290 --> 03:29:23,450
So, if it places the court, I'll make a motion, I'll be fine.

2524
03:29:24,410 --> 03:29:25,750
Item 21, questions?

2525
03:29:28,190 --> 03:29:32,630
I'd like a motion related to the proposed creation, the Hayes County March and Service

2526
03:29:32,630 --> 03:29:34,670
District Number 9,

2527
03:29:38,680 --> 03:29:41,460
resolved that the creation of the district is feasible.

2528
03:29:42,720 --> 03:29:44,220
With qualifications.

2529
03:29:44,540 --> 03:29:51,420
With the qualifications that have been stated of capping the rate from the maximum

2530
03:29:51,420 --> 03:29:59,680
allowed by the state of Texas of 10 to 6, and with the conditions.

2531
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:12,120
As reflected in item 21-level resolution that Mr. Kennedy wrote, in regards to Section 3, the

2532
03:30:12,120 --> 03:30:12,380
Breckmore.

2533
03:30:13,500 --> 03:30:21,520
That is correct and just to clarify, that resolution states that if the ETA of San Marcos or the

2534
03:30:21,520 --> 03:30:30,600
TJ of Kyle, vote by majority, no to the creation that the court no longer believes creation

2535
03:30:30,600 --> 03:30:38,560
of the district is feasible and would benefit the public safety welfare health and convenience

2536
03:30:38,560 --> 03:30:40,600
and persons residing in the district.

2537
03:30:41,900 --> 03:30:43,200
So with those qualifications,

2538
03:30:45,620 --> 03:30:48,540
the court does find favor of the district creation, it shall

2539
03:30:48,540 --> 03:30:52,480
also take action to fix district boundaries, order an election from the district's creation

2540
03:30:52,480 --> 03:30:57,380
and impose the conditions which have been described in the resolution.

2541
03:30:58,180 --> 03:31:03,660
To adopt and pass the resolution that has been modified and presented to the court as of today.

2542
03:31:04,260 --> 03:31:04,840
Set covers.

2543
03:31:06,720 --> 03:31:08,260
Do I hear any comments?

2544
03:31:08,560 --> 03:31:09,700
It's covered in the resolution.

2545
03:31:09,880 --> 03:31:16,600
So your motion included one or the other, even in one passes in the other.

2546
03:31:20,890 --> 03:31:23,790
And they sit in a cap called the right.

2547
03:31:27,230 --> 03:31:30,930
Couldn't say, somebody, second this thing so we can move.

2548
03:31:31,070 --> 03:31:36,950
I don't know.

2549
03:31:37,190 --> 03:31:39,270
Okay, so it dashed for a molecular second.

2550
03:31:43,660 --> 03:31:46,080
So there's an alkaline proposal from the court.

2551
03:31:47,200 --> 03:31:52,620
So the question would be to change the order to either eliminate one of the cities.

2552
03:31:55,460 --> 03:32:00,460
We feel like if Sam Marcus votes out Kyle and the rest of them will be still carrying it.

2553
03:32:03,240 --> 03:32:10,540
So then Mr. John, your proposal would be to remove reference city of Sam Marcus in section three and

2554
03:32:10,540 --> 03:32:15,360
state simply that if a majority of the voters of city of Kyle's and E.T.J. do not approve

2555
03:32:15,360 --> 03:32:17,500
minutes no longer feasible. Is that correct?

2556
03:32:17,500 --> 03:32:19,760
So your motion is dead, so we'll need this problem.

2557
03:32:19,760 --> 03:32:21,260
I wouldn't be motion.

2558
03:32:22,440 --> 03:32:23,700
State that again.

2559
03:32:25,300 --> 03:32:30,940
What Mr. Jones is stating, I can just avoid stating it in the resolution because it's

2560
03:32:30,940 --> 03:32:31,560
the same thing.

2561
03:32:32,040 --> 03:32:35,920
What he's saying is that if a majority of the people in San Marcos's E.T.J.

2562
03:32:35,920 --> 03:32:40,960
vote know that he believes it's still feasible to create a district that includes this

2563
03:32:40,960 --> 03:32:47,560
area, I'm highlighting now, which would be the city of Kyle's E.T.J. potentially

2564
03:32:47,560 --> 03:32:59,260
the city of Kyle and these other areas here by placing reference to the city of Kyle's

2565
03:32:59,260 --> 03:33:07,300
E.T.J. what we're saying is that in section 4 we've said that the city of Kyle could

2566
03:33:07,300 --> 03:33:11,140
vote no and it's still feasible and that was an assumption I made all along.

2567
03:33:13,500 --> 03:33:14,200
We're saying simply

2568
03:33:14,200 --> 03:33:20,980
section three is that if the majority of the voters in this blue area here vote no then it's

2569
03:33:20,980 --> 03:33:24,740
so long feasible because it would buy sec the district for one.

2570
03:33:30,900 --> 03:33:31,100
All right.

2571
03:33:31,100 --> 03:33:39,980
The county I just want to make sure is willing to make under that motion commitment to citizens

2572
03:33:42,200 --> 03:33:44,300
in that unequivocatoria.

2573
03:33:44,940 --> 03:33:45,920
I see up there.

2574
03:33:46,160 --> 03:33:48,820
I'm pressing three in a pressing one.

2575
03:33:49,300 --> 03:33:50,920
I have to find, still find.

2576
03:33:51,060 --> 03:33:53,340
We're talking about the small wide area.

2577
03:33:54,640 --> 03:33:55,960
No, as I understand the commissioner,

2578
03:33:56,080 --> 03:33:56,800
Jones, you're motion.

2579
03:33:58,280 --> 03:33:59,760
I always don't want to know if this is a T-shirt.

2580
03:34:00,060 --> 03:34:01,280
I always don't want to know if this is a T-shirt.

2581
03:34:01,280 --> 03:34:01,340
I always don't want to know if this is a T-shirt.

2582
03:34:02,460 --> 03:34:03,700
What looks like pink to me?

2583
03:34:04,620 --> 03:34:07,440
If that fails there, we still have a district.

2584
03:34:07,960 --> 03:34:16,140
time. Well, I'm trying to do my job and make sure that the people I represent in the pink are going

2585
03:34:16,140 --> 03:34:25,340
to have in this service. At that point in time there's one show in town. You're looking at it.

2586
03:34:25,620 --> 03:34:31,480
So, and that goes for your precinct too, obviously comfortable. So, I just want to make sure that

2587
03:34:31,480 --> 03:34:36,900
But that's understood, it will be covered by, we're going to do it now.

2588
03:34:37,040 --> 03:34:41,760
By this character, I mean, so I'm coming just to begin with now.

2589
03:34:42,320 --> 03:34:43,320
Can we paint it for it now?

2590
03:34:43,540 --> 03:34:43,900
I'm going to put it on.

2591
03:34:44,420 --> 03:34:45,800
Thank you for that story of the cover.

2592
03:34:48,680 --> 03:34:49,840
Because I would say start over.

2593
03:34:50,440 --> 03:34:51,600
We'll see that we can paint it the same.

2594
03:34:51,920 --> 03:34:54,120
Oh, what is being done on the surface is current.

2595
03:34:55,500 --> 03:34:57,160
Everybody has the image coverage.

2596
03:34:57,380 --> 03:34:57,920
Yes, sir.

2597
03:34:58,240 --> 03:34:58,620
Yes, sir.

2598
03:34:59,140 --> 03:34:59,940
Now we're talking about it.

2599
03:35:01,440 --> 03:35:04,380
So that's what the big issue is.

2600
03:35:05,340 --> 03:35:11,100
So, I know we're gonna address growth. That's the next big issue. We just set two records. We had the highest

2601
03:35:11,100 --> 03:35:17,240
single day number calls ever in the highest, much more history of organization last month, and it's only going

2602
03:35:18,180 --> 03:35:20,920
up. 35, 2, 9, 1, 2, 3.

2603
03:35:20,960 --> 03:35:22,880
Here's the mouth, 35.

2604
03:35:24,420 --> 03:35:35,500
Just let me make a statement, and if I'm wrong, somebody please wanted that, and if I'm not mistaken, we're talking about the two largest municipal areas in Hayes County.

2605
03:35:36,480 --> 03:35:39,560
Not counting E.T. Jagger can spring still O.E.T.J. record.

2606
03:35:46,000 --> 03:35:50,200
That's the one area that a city can exempt because of their statutory abilities.

2607
03:35:51,780 --> 03:35:58,400
But if you'll look, the ETJ of the two major cities we talked about cover probably 85% of that area.

2608
03:35:59,640 --> 03:36:06,240
So, you know, as a county commissioner, quite frankly representing areas in all of those cities,

2609
03:36:07,780 --> 03:36:12,680
I've got to consider how that affects the people in that area.

2610
03:36:14,040 --> 03:36:18,960
So, or are they going to be better started by the municipalities that take that responsibility?

2611
03:36:19,860 --> 03:36:27,360
They're going to be better served by an ESD that has an overall area that gives them the

2612
03:36:27,360 --> 03:36:30,000
operable tax place for it.

2613
03:36:30,200 --> 03:36:35,740
So, are you going to see it pull back down to small responsibilities inside of corporate area?

2614
03:36:35,740 --> 03:36:44,960
And then you're going to negotiate with the cities and the county to try to help provide them service with the taxpayer dollars from all the way across this county.

2615
03:36:45,660 --> 03:36:52,040
Here you have to understand choices, how to understand taxes I've paid them every year, just like most people in this room.

2616
03:36:53,360 --> 03:37:03,580
But if you're going to have a CISO and what your service is, either your cities have to take that responsibility for you, or use the citizens that have an opportunity to invest in it.

2617
03:37:03,580 --> 03:37:06,500
And the city of Kyle has an object out, correct?

2618
03:37:06,780 --> 03:37:08,340
It's on the city of San Marcos.

2619
03:37:08,560 --> 03:37:09,220
City of San Marcos.

2620
03:37:09,840 --> 03:37:13,360
They have the ability to opt out for their E.T.J. as well.

2621
03:37:14,300 --> 03:37:15,320
They chose not to do that.

2622
03:37:15,340 --> 03:37:19,340
If they do that, the citizens of that area get petitioned them for service

2623
03:37:19,340 --> 03:37:22,840
because they were technically denying them of entering this new service.

2624
03:37:23,100 --> 03:37:25,360
I'll let the lawyers explain exactly how that would happen.

2625
03:37:25,740 --> 03:37:26,680
But that's my interpretation.

2626
03:37:27,640 --> 03:37:30,440
Is that the city of San Marcos said, no, we're not just opting out in the city.

2627
03:37:30,440 --> 03:37:35,380
we're opting out for the whole ETJ that the citizens of that ETJ could demand service from

2628
03:37:35,380 --> 03:37:37,280
the City of Zamarkis at that point.

2629
03:37:38,120 --> 03:37:39,100
That was one of those things.

2630
03:37:39,120 --> 03:37:40,780
It's the annexation of services.

2631
03:37:41,420 --> 03:37:46,220
So they said they want their ETJ technically to be included.

2632
03:37:46,880 --> 03:37:47,800
That's called the consent.

2633
03:37:47,940 --> 03:37:48,300
It's called the consent.

2634
03:37:48,300 --> 03:37:50,820
If they annex that ETJ, they have to provide the service.

2635
03:37:52,260 --> 03:37:52,440
Right.

2636
03:37:52,800 --> 03:38:00,420
If that ETJ was no, and the district is created, then the decision, this board,

2637
03:38:00,420 --> 03:38:06,280
will make will be how best to serve those citizens that are not in within the city limits.

2638
03:38:06,500 --> 03:38:12,120
Would that be through contracting with the city if it ran its own, or would that be contracting

2639
03:38:12,120 --> 03:38:15,800
with another provider, or would that be contracting with the new ESD's provider?

2640
03:38:16,300 --> 03:38:19,960
It would be several options, and it may not be across the whole border as the same.

2641
03:38:20,080 --> 03:38:26,500
It may be part of the northern areas, is provided that services are provided by the service

2642
03:38:26,500 --> 03:38:27,840
provider of the new ESD.

2643
03:38:27,840 --> 03:38:37,620
In the southern area, it may be provided by the city of San Marcos, and we're also at this time assuming that if this were to be created without the city of San Marcos, which is going to happen anyway.

2644
03:38:38,560 --> 03:38:43,880
That the city of San Marcos, for at least some time, will most likely contract with the service provider of the new ESD.

2645
03:38:45,380 --> 03:38:52,120
And at some point in time, the city will evaluate and maybe determine to create its own EMS service.

2646
03:38:53,060 --> 03:38:57,640
So at that point, there would be an option if the city did that to contract with them for

2647
03:38:57,640 --> 03:39:01,120
some of the areas of that E.T.J. if for some reason they vote no.

2648
03:39:03,020 --> 03:39:05,420
Now that would come from this commissioner's court.

2649
03:39:05,920 --> 03:39:08,720
I'm sure the city of St. Marks would say we'd be happy to serve some of those areas.

2650
03:39:08,840 --> 03:39:09,480
We can make it work.

2651
03:39:09,600 --> 03:39:11,220
We've got a fire station right there.

2652
03:39:11,340 --> 03:39:11,980
100 roads.

2653
03:39:12,120 --> 03:39:13,680
We've got an ambulance in there.

2654
03:39:13,980 --> 03:39:16,380
We're just going to ask for some money in order to do that.

2655
03:39:18,330 --> 03:39:21,550
I'm going to state the obvious, we're the only, we're the most local representation.

2656
03:39:21,550 --> 03:39:27,150
and any citizens have an ATJ is us.

2657
03:39:27,170 --> 03:39:31,450
And we're providing the service now, or funding the service.

2658
03:39:32,410 --> 03:39:34,590
We're contracted to fund the service.

2659
03:39:37,290 --> 03:39:44,590
OK, so the resolution has been modified and you would move then.

2660
03:39:44,590 --> 03:39:45,790
to vote if he did.

2661
03:39:47,010 --> 03:39:51,370
Basically, to modify Mr. Conley's notion on the one point.

2662
03:39:51,990 --> 03:39:53,910
But otherwise, make it the same here.

2663
03:39:54,230 --> 03:39:54,750
Sagan.

2664
03:39:55,710 --> 03:39:59,980
Mr. Jones mimics you all.

2665
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:07,020
For motion, except for Article 3, in other words, it's still the sixth sense.

2666
03:40:09,620 --> 03:40:16,280
So there's modification, the section 3, only to reflect that, if from the majority of the voter in the city of

2667
03:40:16,280 --> 03:40:19,040
Kyle's E.T.J. do not approve, then it's no longer feasible.

2668
03:40:22,360 --> 03:40:27,520
The firm management, my statistic professor at A&M, he said that statistically, if you put

2669
03:40:27,520 --> 03:40:31,740
a lot of mummies, the paparazzi are a room and gave them a paper, they think they come up with

2670
03:40:31,740 --> 03:40:32,860
King James Bible.

2671
03:40:33,340 --> 03:40:35,800
So, what are we doing here, guys?

2672
03:40:35,980 --> 03:40:37,560
We've got a nose and a short one.

2673
03:40:37,840 --> 03:40:39,940
But, all right, is anybody happy with that?

2674
03:40:40,100 --> 03:40:41,020
Oh, you just got to say that.

2675
03:40:41,080 --> 03:40:41,440
Oh.

2676
03:40:42,460 --> 03:40:44,120
You say Mucky's capable, right?

2677
03:40:44,260 --> 03:40:44,660
Five of them.

2678
03:40:44,920 --> 03:40:45,100
No.

2679
03:40:47,420 --> 03:40:47,860
No.

2680
03:40:47,860 --> 03:40:49,320
I'm saying, you don't understand.

2681
03:40:49,660 --> 03:40:50,120
Just, just.

2682
03:40:50,360 --> 03:40:50,940
Just do it.

2683
03:40:51,560 --> 03:40:51,760
Just do it.

2684
03:40:51,760 --> 03:40:52,760
Just do it.

2685
03:40:52,760 --> 03:40:53,380
Probably so.

2686
03:40:53,880 --> 03:40:54,340
Oh, Lord.

2687
03:40:54,640 --> 03:40:55,320
I'm happy with this.

2688
03:40:55,780 --> 03:40:56,420
Come on, guys.

2689
03:40:56,760 --> 03:40:57,020
Here we go.

2690
03:40:57,120 --> 03:40:57,300
Here we go.

2691
03:40:57,340 --> 03:40:58,760
There's got a motion and a second.

2692
03:40:59,060 --> 03:41:00,500
So would you please call this question?

2693
03:41:03,060 --> 03:41:03,620
Yes.

2694
03:41:03,620 --> 03:41:04,000
Yes.

2695
03:41:04,000 --> 03:41:04,700
Mr. Haines, yes.

2696
03:41:05,400 --> 03:41:05,780
Mr. Lizard.

2697
03:41:05,920 --> 03:41:06,440
Yes.

2698
03:41:06,480 --> 03:41:07,100
Mr. Jones.

2699
03:41:07,680 --> 03:41:08,520
Jeff House.

2700
03:41:08,880 --> 03:41:10,100
Hallelujah. Yes.

2701
03:41:11,740 --> 03:41:12,700
So, let us know.

2702
03:41:12,980 --> 03:41:15,100
We all need help in getting things out.

2703
03:41:15,160 --> 03:41:18,620
I know y'all are your LinkedIn and your financial ability,

2704
03:41:18,780 --> 03:41:22,100
but it's important people understand what they're doing.

2705
03:41:22,400 --> 03:41:23,080
That's really good.

2706
03:41:23,200 --> 03:41:24,560
So, thank y'all for what you did y'all.

2707
03:41:25,040 --> 03:41:26,420
Thank y'all.

2708
03:41:26,420 --> 03:41:29,700
Okay, we have a scheduled budget here at 130.

2709
03:41:31,240 --> 03:41:36,160
We have five, some of the participants in that that would be a little bit behind schedule.

2710
03:41:37,600 --> 03:41:39,140
So I don't even know what time it is right now.

2711
03:41:39,500 --> 03:41:40,800
It's 1804.

2712
03:41:41,120 --> 03:41:42,740
That's two to a clock.

2713
03:41:43,880 --> 03:41:46,420
We say probably at least two a clock.

2714
03:41:47,360 --> 03:41:48,600
We have some of those people.

2715
03:41:49,260 --> 03:41:51,640
I don't know if it'd be the best they'd come in front of the board.

2716
03:41:51,640 --> 03:41:52,660
We have a lot of people talking about the E.

2717
03:41:53,020 --> 03:41:55,100
Yeah, if you're going to get a copy of that option

2718
03:41:55,100 --> 03:41:57,280
if they might not speak about how.

2719
03:41:58,020 --> 03:41:59,280
Well, we got lunch in there.

2720
03:41:59,720 --> 03:42:01,080
I think we're going to do our basic session later.

2721
03:42:01,360 --> 03:42:03,240
But I'm going to be in the middle of the day.

2722
03:42:03,660 --> 03:42:05,480
I want to come before court today.

2723
03:42:05,840 --> 03:42:07,020
That's a lot of things.

2724
03:42:09,920 --> 03:42:15,760
So we can do our exact, and we have lots.

2725
03:42:16,060 --> 03:42:18,900
Right, but they'll come back at 145 or 135, whatever time you.

2726
03:42:19,080 --> 03:42:20,800
And then we come back.

2727
03:42:22,600 --> 03:42:29,660
I think we'd probably be back 130 and then spent 125 and then spent time on those two issues.

2728
03:42:30,000 --> 03:42:31,560
Let's give them time to get a bite to, you know.

2729
03:42:33,520 --> 03:42:39,820
You'll be back here about 125 or so and then we'll get after you start killing rats.

2730
03:42:40,320 --> 03:42:41,840
Judges, that's our budget workshop.

2731
03:42:42,960 --> 03:42:43,220
Yeah, correct.

2732
03:42:43,380 --> 03:42:44,880
The workshop, you're saying that one third?

2733
03:42:45,160 --> 03:42:47,420
No, they're going to come back and we're going to work on these items.

2734
03:42:48,400 --> 03:42:48,880
Oh, okay.

2735
03:42:48,880 --> 03:42:52,000
and hopefully get through a time to do the budget workshop.

2736
03:42:53,440 --> 03:43:00,400
So we have the two workshops for the public safety and facilities,

2737
03:43:01,020 --> 03:43:05,100
proposed bond and he wrote proposed bond and then we have an item

2738
03:43:05,100 --> 03:43:07,600
to either call those elections for one of those elections,

2739
03:43:07,600 --> 03:43:10,420
for both of those elections and then set the amount of money.

2740
03:43:10,800 --> 03:43:14,160
But if we do the budget workshop, it's scheduled at 130.

2741
03:43:14,280 --> 03:43:16,460
So if we come back in 130, we have to do that.

2742
03:43:16,460 --> 03:43:17,640
We can debate the workshop.

2743
03:43:17,640 --> 03:43:21,680
But he's already educated with several of them.

2744
03:43:21,860 --> 03:43:27,020
The show's office was at two, so they're going to be here for the public safety workshop

2745
03:43:27,580 --> 03:43:28,040
anyway.

2746
03:43:28,940 --> 03:43:32,540
Constable Colour was at 130, I think he said he would come ahead anyway.

2747
03:43:33,200 --> 03:43:36,600
And I'm not really concerned about the folks that are coming in from the county.

2748
03:43:36,720 --> 03:43:39,720
What about the public that we've notified is going to be at 130?

2749
03:43:41,400 --> 03:43:46,020
It's just, I mean, it's, I suppose it would be just as interested in the...

2750
03:43:46,020 --> 03:43:47,700
Tell me, more VAM.

2751
03:43:47,960 --> 03:43:49,860
Is that what the workshop work?

2752
03:43:50,320 --> 03:43:52,720
I mean, if they have a lot of things, they definitely know what it is.

2753
03:43:53,020 --> 03:43:53,500
Take their time.

2754
03:43:53,520 --> 03:43:56,440
Yeah, I don't open the exact, we'll do that work over there.

2755
03:43:59,770 --> 03:44:00,050
Okay.

2756
03:44:01,650 --> 03:44:02,690
Come to order.

2757
03:44:04,210 --> 03:44:05,070
How much you open?

2758
03:44:36,830 --> 03:44:41,930
Council of Army, all countries, and all countries, and we're coming to fight a litigation involving peace camp.

2759
03:44:42,090 --> 03:44:43,690
That's why I should make all of them.

2760
03:44:43,690 --> 03:44:46,290
In the 30th of the second session for the Swedish section,

2761
03:44:46,570 --> 03:44:50,130
I have one point of six more, and I have one point of seven years.

2762
03:44:50,470 --> 03:44:53,590
We have the Texas Chamberlain Code of Prosecutation, and the Council of Relations,

2763
03:44:53,930 --> 03:44:55,330
and I have the first six changes.

2764
03:44:55,690 --> 03:44:57,950
We have the right way to launch the coast.

2765
03:44:58,030 --> 03:44:59,930
And once in a precinct one, I'll say.

2766
03:45:02,980 --> 03:45:04,840
Okay, please join me, chambers.

2767
03:45:05,560 --> 03:45:07,020
Thank you for having to leave.

2768
03:45:13,040 --> 03:45:17,520
Out of restraint, we're going to be item number 24.

2769
03:45:23,640 --> 03:45:26,220
So I can quit hearing the screams of the court yard.

2770
03:45:27,020 --> 03:45:32,680
Now, we're 24, we're chopper lighting to propose criminal justice public safety facilities

2771
03:45:33,160 --> 03:45:38,480
to include the Hayes County jail, 911 call center, emergency operation center,

2772
03:45:38,980 --> 03:45:43,340
law enforcement center, and training facility, and the possibility of a number of

2773
03:45:43,340 --> 03:45:50,380
or a 2016 bond proposition relating there too, possible action by a follow, should say may

2774
03:45:50,380 --> 03:45:51,520
call it.

2775
03:45:51,520 --> 03:45:53,100
There's someone shut that door.

2776
03:45:55,620 --> 03:45:56,020
Sure.

2777
03:45:57,100 --> 03:45:58,080
All those guys, people.

2778
03:45:58,260 --> 03:46:00,140
Would you ask them to be quiet, please?

2779
03:46:00,540 --> 03:46:01,740
After quiet, her?

2780
03:46:04,720 --> 03:46:06,560
You must have had a good liquid lunch.

2781
03:46:11,230 --> 03:46:12,550
Good afternoon, Judge Commissioner.

2782
03:46:12,730 --> 03:46:13,430
Ms. Brent.

2783
03:46:13,790 --> 03:46:15,950
Once you get an issue yourself, so people know who you are.

2784
03:46:16,150 --> 03:46:17,790
When do you think it is?

2785
03:46:17,990 --> 03:46:19,210
Senior Vice President.

2786
03:46:19,710 --> 03:46:20,450
You see him international.

2787
03:46:20,450 --> 03:46:30,810
We're here today to go through very quickly a presentation on calling the bond for the public

2788
03:46:30,810 --> 03:46:31,750
sake facility.

2789
03:46:33,450 --> 03:46:41,170
Last week we presented a three options and I think what we were instructed to do was to

2790
03:46:41,170 --> 03:46:46,050
go back and refine option B and that's what we have worked on.

2791
03:46:46,170 --> 03:46:50,410
So today we are going to find some things in your packet that reflect the comments that

2792
03:46:50,410 --> 03:46:51,370
made.

2793
03:46:54,250 --> 03:47:00,170
There were many, many people that were responsible for the design of the options that

2794
03:47:00,170 --> 03:47:06,830
you saw. There were citizens and law enforcement. There were stakeholders, both inside

2795
03:47:06,830 --> 03:47:14,710
the county and out, along with the consultant team. We were given strong direction to

2796
03:47:14,710 --> 03:47:20,190
be invaded and cost effective in the solutions that we brought back to you. And I think

2797
03:47:20,190 --> 03:47:23,010
that I think we were successful in that.

2798
03:47:23,250 --> 03:47:26,010
The county has been driven by change and success.

2799
03:47:26,010 --> 03:47:28,270
Everybody knows that statistics on,

2800
03:47:28,330 --> 03:47:32,210
fastest growing city and county and all of that stuff.

2801
03:47:32,370 --> 03:47:36,550
But I think what's important to say is that you've been driven by

2802
03:47:36,550 --> 03:47:39,250
the success of people wanting to move here

2803
03:47:39,250 --> 03:47:42,650
because of the roads and the facilities and the

2804
03:47:42,650 --> 03:47:44,790
efficiency of services that I received.

2805
03:47:45,650 --> 03:47:48,230
And I think it also is good to know that you,

2806
03:47:48,230 --> 03:47:57,790
This court in the previous court has had to take on the task of providing facilities way beyond its share.

2807
03:47:58,750 --> 03:48:12,750
From the 1940s to 2000, I think that percent of growth is phenomenal, but what that did require was a lot of facilities to bear that burden.

2808
03:48:14,120 --> 03:48:15,980
Again, statistics,

2809
03:48:18,600 --> 03:48:23,220
you've seen this slide before, and I think what it basically saying is that

2810
03:48:23,220 --> 03:48:30,840
you have been about as successful as you could be in achieving efficiencies for the county,

2811
03:48:31,280 --> 03:48:36,700
you've streamlined to the absolute fifth degree.

2812
03:48:40,320 --> 03:48:45,160
Now we are seeing that those facilities that are so outdated are costing the county.

2813
03:48:45,160 --> 03:48:53,200
They're costing the county the easiest ones to look at or the cost associated with the dollars.

2814
03:48:53,480 --> 03:49:00,780
But there's other costs in terms of services that you're having to provide that are not as easily captured in dollars.

2815
03:49:01,480 --> 03:49:07,100
One thing that we wanted to respond to is that now we have an opportunity

2816
03:49:07,100 --> 03:49:16,160
by refurbishing and expanding the jail and building new LEC and the 911, we have an opportunity

2817
03:49:16,160 --> 03:49:23,200
to incorporate all of those efficiencies, both energy conservation measures, water efficiency,

2818
03:49:23,620 --> 03:49:28,400
and other options like solar power. Now we have an opportunity to do that.

2819
03:49:29,520 --> 03:49:36,420
We're looking at the three fundamentals of the public safety, the emergency communications

2820
03:49:36,420 --> 03:49:43,920
and 911 responses number one. And what we are looking at is doing a better job of coordinating

2821
03:49:43,920 --> 03:49:52,460
and providing the technology that's going to improve the dispatch efficiency. We know that there

2822
03:49:52,460 --> 03:49:57,740
are 19 different emergency services providers from across the county and the state that have

2823
03:49:57,740 --> 03:49:59,980
be coordinated. We also know that

2824
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:26,740
A better technology is what really closes the gaps that exist in the field. We've been playing catch-up, and the cost of catching up has taken a toll of both on the people who provide those first who provide that help, but it's also now costing us money to play catch-up.

2825
03:50:30,360 --> 03:50:41,320
The emergency communications includes the 9-1-1 coordinated emergency response and new technology,

2826
03:50:42,140 --> 03:50:49,560
but it's also providing a plan that's flexible and can adjust easily as the additional

2827
03:50:49,560 --> 03:50:51,320
communities join.

2828
03:50:56,810 --> 03:51:00,430
The law enforcement, excuse me. What in did these are you talking about?

2829
03:51:00,430 --> 03:51:07,370
the cities and the fire and the image and all of those people that use the facility.

2830
03:51:13,380 --> 03:51:21,940
The law enforcement facility is going to be equipped with updated technology, more modern and efficient layout

2831
03:51:21,940 --> 03:51:23,680
as well as additional space.

2832
03:51:24,080 --> 03:51:30,660
The location will allow the sheriff's office to lend more support to security for the courts and the VA

2833
03:51:30,660 --> 03:51:35,480
and it also gives the officers good access to the entire county without sliding

2834
03:51:35,480 --> 03:51:38,420
column that exists at the Gillian Roadside.

2835
03:51:43,440 --> 03:51:45,800
Another important thing that we've

2836
03:51:45,800 --> 03:51:54,620
we've maybe lost side up is that this new placement allows us to get better

2837
03:51:54,620 --> 03:52:01,520
access to all parts of the county. The other thing if you look at this, this is

2838
03:52:01,520 --> 03:52:08,660
the natural photograph of the records and the evidence and one of the things that we do

2839
03:52:08,660 --> 03:52:14,680
know is that better space translates to better service. For example, with a crime lab,

2840
03:52:15,220 --> 03:52:22,980
the crime lab can save time and processing and get cases closed faster.

2841
03:52:28,100 --> 03:52:30,620
We have to do that work in other places.

2842
03:52:30,620 --> 03:52:36,320
But actually, we have to get all of that evidence processed in other places, so.

2843
03:52:36,340 --> 03:52:43,540
In which states that the priorities in hell are, I should better say, when those are

2844
03:52:43,540 --> 03:52:51,240
animalized and rarely have I had the experience that their stuff is usually less of a priority

2845
03:52:51,240 --> 03:52:52,580
than our stuff.

2846
03:52:52,700 --> 03:52:54,240
Is that fair statement too long?

2847
03:52:54,240 --> 03:52:55,300
It is a fair statement.

2848
03:52:55,300 --> 03:53:00,980
And I think that most businesses would probably agree

2849
03:53:00,980 --> 03:53:05,600
that they would support a jail with a new crime lab

2850
03:53:05,600 --> 03:53:09,380
if they thought that their business got robbed last week

2851
03:53:09,380 --> 03:53:13,820
and the investigations and processing of that case

2852
03:53:13,820 --> 03:53:16,120
could be done months earlier.

2853
03:53:16,540 --> 03:53:18,500
They probably vote for this.

2854
03:53:21,410 --> 03:53:27,090
OK, so where we are now is we are looking at going over

2855
03:53:27,090 --> 03:53:29,370
to the government center site.

2856
03:53:29,690 --> 03:53:31,550
There's a lot of good reasons for that.

2857
03:53:31,550 --> 03:53:34,150
Not only will it accommodate the growth that we need,

2858
03:53:34,170 --> 03:53:36,410
the expansion that we need, a new facility,

2859
03:53:38,350 --> 03:53:39,830
but we also own that property.

2860
03:53:40,330 --> 03:53:41,250
The county owned it.

2861
03:53:41,370 --> 03:53:43,350
We don't have to find new property.

2862
03:53:43,870 --> 03:53:49,050
We don't have to go out and condemn any land.

2863
03:53:49,090 --> 03:53:52,570
We don't have to take any land off the tax roll.

2864
03:53:54,350 --> 03:53:56,930
So that's a good place to put in.

2865
03:54:02,340 --> 03:54:14,180
We have heard a lot of testimony to the fact that this jail was never intended to last as long as it has.

2866
03:54:14,400 --> 03:54:22,120
We have heard testimony from the judge who was there when they said we need to start planning for a new one.

2867
03:54:22,380 --> 03:54:27,660
We already know that the maintenance costs are beyond the tipping point.

2868
03:54:27,660 --> 03:54:53,360
I know from 2009 when we were first when I was a youngster, first starting to work on problems associated with that jail that the Texas jail standards commission was already citing us and you were having to do some extraordinary efforts to go in and make the jail work for a lot of money to keep that jail open.

2869
03:54:53,360 --> 03:54:54,040
Um,

2870
03:54:58,050 --> 03:54:59,910
and there was something else I was going to say about that.

2871
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:10,980
Oh, I know what it is. Let's listen to Julie, the opondo, show booking on a slow day. Hit it, Jerry.

2872
03:55:16,090 --> 03:55:19,550
Come on, Jared, you know, who I really is proud of. You can't even see him.

2873
03:56:30,440 --> 03:56:35,120
I don't know if you saw how crowded that was, but that was on a Monday at 3 o'clock.

2874
03:56:36,240 --> 03:56:41,240
Can you imagine what it was going to look like on Saturday at 2 a.m.

2875
03:56:42,300 --> 03:56:47,080
All right, so this is what we have been proposing.

2876
03:56:47,580 --> 03:56:53,220
Instead of building a new jail at a cost of what has gone up to 187 million,

2877
03:56:53,500 --> 03:56:57,260
the last one, the option three that we showed you was 166.

2878
03:56:57,660 --> 03:57:04,700
Well, we are asking the court to approve is to expand and to renovate the existing jail.

2879
03:57:04,700 --> 03:57:13,240
We believe that we should replace all of the support spaces first, booking, intake, food

2880
03:57:13,240 --> 03:57:19,060
service and infirmary, because those are the critical spaces that we know are creating

2881
03:57:19,060 --> 03:57:21,420
the most problems in the jail right now.

2882
03:57:22,040 --> 03:57:28,280
And again, just pointing out that the infirmary is designed for the growth of the jail as it

2883
03:57:28,280 --> 03:57:36,220
to over time, and the laundry and the food services are going to be located so that they

2884
03:57:36,220 --> 03:57:44,460
can easily be expanded in the future. We're going to build 192 additional beds,

2885
03:58:03,810 --> 03:58:03,890
and you

2886
03:58:03,890 --> 03:58:12,410
value for the tax dollars that have been spent on this jail, and I think that from what

2887
03:58:12,410 --> 03:58:19,690
we are hearing in the co-location meetings and in the meetings with people outside, outside,

2888
03:58:20,430 --> 03:58:27,510
the sheriff's office, that we believe that there is nothing else to do except to do this

2889
03:58:27,510 --> 03:58:37,190
project. We have brought down the price a little bit, I think, of like 6,000 square feet.

2890
03:58:38,110 --> 03:58:48,430
We've deducted about 6,000 square feet out of the EOC 911 part, which now reduces the 108

2891
03:58:48,430 --> 03:58:56,650
million that we gave you before an option B to a TPC of one of six point four.

2892
03:58:56,850 --> 03:59:00,630
Now does that give you opportunity to expand the data rather?

2893
03:59:01,090 --> 03:59:02,650
It absolutely does judge.

2894
03:59:10,040 --> 03:59:14,480
So what we're doing is we're addressing the current future public safety needs.

2895
03:59:15,040 --> 03:59:20,440
We're striking that balance between future needs, efficiencies and taxpayer value.

2896
03:59:20,440 --> 03:59:26,860
And it's important also to note that these recommendations were developed and they were

2897
03:59:26,860 --> 03:59:35,820
vetted again and again and again to get to the best option for the county constituents.

2898
03:59:40,230 --> 03:59:47,620
This is tiny print, but I think it's good to read that all of the people who have been

2899
03:59:47,620 --> 03:59:54,280
involved in this, the Hayes County DA, the Hayes County Sheriff's Department, the City

2900
03:59:54,280 --> 03:59:59,320
of St. Marcus Police Chief, the Fire, EMS, and Police.

2901
04:00:00,430 --> 04:00:06,630
Public safety task force, and the county, and with the emergency joint response committee.

2902
04:00:07,530 --> 04:00:09,770
So what we are asking you today,

2903
04:00:13,390 --> 04:00:16,810
that's really good still. Let me go back to this one.

2904
04:00:16,970 --> 04:00:24,070
How does it improve safety? It gets help to people in emergencies when they most need it. It gives law officers the tools,

2905
04:00:24,070 --> 04:00:29,730
space and training that needs to serve public, it provides a secure, safe place to hold people

2906
04:00:29,730 --> 04:00:32,290
who are a danger to themselves or others.

2907
04:00:33,430 --> 04:00:40,130
What we need from you today is a decision to go forward with the bond package for public

2908
04:00:40,130 --> 04:00:44,810
safety facilities in the amount of 106.4 million

2909
04:00:48,040 --> 04:00:50,140
and we welcome your comments.

2910
04:00:50,140 --> 04:00:50,800
What

2911
04:00:58,550 --> 04:01:04,390
was the breakdown between the jail and the location of the out of the 16.4?

2912
04:01:05,090 --> 04:01:08,830
If that would be on this slide right here,

2913
04:01:16,360 --> 04:01:22,920
the jail is 44 million and the LEC is 62.4 million.

2914
04:01:23,200 --> 04:01:27,860
I think I have it further broken down in another place.

2915
04:01:27,860 --> 04:01:34,000
It says, you said, jail was 44 million isn't that 62 million, but you haven't had groups doing that, right?

2916
04:01:34,940 --> 04:01:36,320
It's backwards on there.

2917
04:01:36,760 --> 04:01:38,620
Yeah, I'm sorry. It is backwards.

2918
04:01:39,100 --> 04:01:43,080
Because that means we were spending the third more than, at least, seeing the work.

2919
04:01:44,060 --> 04:01:52,200
Good catch. Good catch. It's 62.4 million for the jail and 44 for the ESC and LEC.

2920
04:01:52,200 --> 04:01:53,180
Also

2921
04:01:56,470 --> 04:02:03,290
important in those figures is to discuss as part of our education piece.

2922
04:02:03,710 --> 04:02:12,230
Some form of fashion is that which should be obvious is that the building of J.O.

2923
04:02:12,230 --> 04:02:18,310
is not the same square footage type of cost for, you know, what we build of all

2924
04:02:18,310 --> 04:02:21,790
this facility or like what we build most of the government center for.

2925
04:02:21,790 --> 04:02:25,770
same goes for a 911 emergency

2926
04:02:25,770 --> 04:02:29,070
communication facilities because of the

2927
04:02:29,490 --> 04:02:34,050
the inherent issues that come with security and safety in those types of

2928
04:02:34,750 --> 04:02:37,790
different facilities so you're going to see different

2929
04:02:37,790 --> 04:02:40,790
types of square footage, cost per square footage

2930
04:02:41,470 --> 04:02:44,790
properly evaluated to meet those inherent needs.

2931
04:02:48,050 --> 04:02:52,490
The hardening of that building along with the technology is what increases the

2932
04:02:52,490 --> 04:02:56,410
that project so exponentially.

2933
04:02:57,370 --> 04:03:03,490
The design that has been done by HK and worked on with the Turner and ECM team

2934
04:03:03,490 --> 04:03:09,370
has allowed the LEC by co-locating at LEC and the 911

2935
04:03:09,370 --> 04:03:15,900
allows for much more cost-effective design, even with the increasing cost.

2936
04:03:16,530 --> 04:03:21,530
Other things like moving the training facility outside of the LEC,

2937
04:03:21,530 --> 04:03:28,350
then one, allows us to utilize a much lower construction cost than with LEC.

2938
04:03:29,450 --> 04:03:35,630
And I think her party with H.O.K. last week did a really good job talking about how the

2939
04:03:35,630 --> 04:03:43,670
square footage of that facility was able to be lowered by the sharing of spaces for all

2940
04:03:43,670 --> 04:03:44,630
of that facility.

2941
04:03:47,190 --> 04:03:53,690
Well, I have a spot quite a bit last week, so I won't do that this week,

2942
04:03:56,280 --> 04:03:56,780
but I think

2943
04:03:56,780 --> 04:04:06,780
as Brenda is described, I mean, we've gone through this time of time again and have gotten

2944
04:04:06,780 --> 04:04:15,120
the best out of the taxpayer fund resources, NASA, so we currently have all, and we

2945
04:04:15,120 --> 04:04:25,540
have delivered a product to the court today, do the task force committee that Mr.

2946
04:04:25,540 --> 04:04:35,860
Engels be myself, I'm sure, a couple of chair to meet the needs of the public safety

2947
04:04:35,860 --> 04:04:44,940
in the do so in a reasonable way from a physical standpoint and again we just want to emphasize

2948
04:04:44,940 --> 04:04:53,980
as well as we have a discussion about fiscal responsibility debt and all the issues

2949
04:04:53,980 --> 04:04:59,580
and hear it to going out and asking people for a bond, that's all.

2950
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:17,090
The necessary and needed and welcome discussions to have to completely have that entire discussion of costs and expenses and finances and overall physical strength of the county.

2951
04:05:17,090 --> 04:05:24,490
It is incomplete, the only talk about any debt associated with this bond.

2952
04:05:25,450 --> 04:05:31,410
The courts made it very clear that the people determined that this is not a good idea,

2953
04:05:31,650 --> 04:05:40,930
and they don't want to make an investment in these assets that we aren't going to turn around

2954
04:05:42,230 --> 04:05:45,030
and make that decision for them.

2955
04:05:45,030 --> 04:05:49,210
is I've made that clear. I think some other member's court have made that clear. However,

2956
04:05:50,910 --> 04:06:04,810
that does not mean that does not mean that this county won't spend money fixing the next

2957
04:06:04,810 --> 04:06:13,830
thing that breaks over there to stay the do our best to stay within state standards and

2958
04:06:13,830 --> 04:06:22,950
provide level of public safety for our correction officers and the inmates that are in that facility

2959
04:06:22,950 --> 04:06:30,210
doesn't mean court won't spend to continue to kind of hodgepodge a and go along and put

2960
04:06:30,210 --> 04:06:40,230
a communication center program together and we'll continue to try to find ways to meet these needs

2961
04:06:40,230 --> 04:06:51,110
on a long enforcement side of things as well, it will be inefficient and it will be expensive.

2962
04:06:52,370 --> 04:06:56,210
As we continue to move over the next few years,

2963
04:06:58,470 --> 04:06:59,830
and we'll just have to kind of take it

2964
04:06:59,830 --> 04:07:08,810
as it comes and deal with that situation, that is the complete discussion in regards to

2965
04:07:08,810 --> 04:07:12,550
the finances and the, again, when I'm broadly describing

2966
04:07:12,550 --> 04:07:14,610
as the, you know, for all physical responsibility

2967
04:07:14,610 --> 04:07:18,150
of all of this, this is the most efficient way

2968
04:07:18,150 --> 04:07:23,410
that we can move forward, long term, in our county.

2969
04:07:23,890 --> 04:07:25,730
It's what we've presented here today,

2970
04:07:25,770 --> 04:07:28,290
and done our best to do so at a reasonable price.

2971
04:07:30,390 --> 04:07:32,990
On that quarter of a million for the,

2972
04:07:33,090 --> 04:07:36,170
the LAC and the EOZ,

2973
04:07:36,170 --> 04:07:52,910
It's a workshop where I should say, is that turn key ready to run or is that just the bill itself without the fixtures and the addition software and future rules and stations and peace and equipment.

2974
04:07:54,130 --> 04:07:56,970
In other words, this is just the facility the building.

2975
04:07:56,970 --> 04:07:58,930
It's ready, you're ready to run.

2976
04:07:59,170 --> 04:08:01,330
In fact, Jeff, I think you know,

2977
04:08:02,710 --> 04:08:05,590
Dr. McGill is promised that he would be ready

2978
04:08:05,590 --> 04:08:07,730
to have everything ready to go with we are.

2979
04:08:08,310 --> 04:08:10,710
Yeah, and his process is all of the infrastructure

2980
04:08:10,710 --> 04:08:13,970
for the IT for the entire building.

2981
04:08:14,770 --> 04:08:17,810
So we just moved existing machines and PCs over,

2982
04:08:18,070 --> 04:08:21,050
but the infrastructure will all be in place as part of this.

2983
04:08:21,550 --> 04:08:23,970
All of the other equipment, like the consoles

2984
04:08:24,850 --> 04:08:27,650
and the radio equipment and all of the technology

2985
04:08:27,650 --> 04:08:30,650
will be ready for them to move into and go to work.

2986
04:08:30,830 --> 04:08:36,130
How's it going to work when we talk about keeping our software on the servers of San

2987
04:08:36,130 --> 04:08:40,950
Marcus when they're not part of the 911 Center, how does it going to work?

2988
04:08:42,070 --> 04:08:46,890
Well, that's something that we can look into, but the initial scope of it was to stay

2989
04:08:46,890 --> 04:08:54,110
on the San Marcus servers and build our redundancy of fiber back to the city so that we

2990
04:08:54,110 --> 04:08:59,210
we're going to see back to the city. Certainly something we can look at at some point. It's

2991
04:08:59,210 --> 04:09:03,910
having on-premise servers for sure. It does a hard direction of scope. What are the

2992
04:09:03,910 --> 04:09:11,530
conditions? Have we made inroads to the phone company and the power company and all the people

2993
04:09:11,530 --> 04:09:17,510
for them? Because I mean those EOSDs draw a lot of power, a lot of phone lines, a lot of bandwidth,

2994
04:09:17,510 --> 04:09:20,130
that, all of that, is that then looked into,

2995
04:09:20,130 --> 04:09:22,190
is that a biteable for us?

2996
04:09:23,050 --> 04:09:24,890
Yeah, we look, we don't have a band that just

2997
04:09:24,890 --> 04:09:27,230
you at this point, and all of that, as far as

2998
04:09:27,230 --> 04:09:28,290
hard to count in that work.

2999
04:09:28,450 --> 04:09:33,010
I mean, we have a band that, but what is thanks

3000
04:09:33,010 --> 04:09:36,410
when you have to look at, is to do some redundancy,

3001
04:09:36,770 --> 04:09:38,590
yeah, that's one of the problems, you know,

3002
04:09:39,290 --> 04:09:43,670
locating the EOC, the Starbucks, so I just hope

3003
04:09:43,670 --> 04:09:46,730
that we looked into that, so we don't have any problems

3004
04:09:46,730 --> 04:09:53,010
I was one of the business, just like the government, the center side, the study of the U.S.

3005
04:09:57,670 --> 04:09:57,830
comments.

3006
04:10:01,040 --> 04:10:13,600
Judge, I'll say that even though we really would have liked to see another lower, I think, or committee, you know, felt that way,

3007
04:10:16,300 --> 04:10:25,960
you know, we at some point have to say these are the things that are needed, you know, to make this jail work.

3008
04:10:25,960 --> 04:10:33,100
And so, you know, I know that our team looked at that quite thoroughly, you know, and

3009
04:10:33,100 --> 04:10:39,560
unfortunately, you know, we're at the number that we believe that we need to build an efficient

3010
04:10:40,240 --> 04:10:41,400
working facility.

3011
04:10:41,840 --> 04:10:50,960
And so, if we're going to ask our voters to consider a possible public safety facilities bond,

3012
04:10:50,960 --> 04:10:57,860
I think it would be irresponsible of us to ask our voters to consider a bond that doesn't address

3013
04:10:57,860 --> 04:11:03,040
any future growth that we would be bold on day one.

3014
04:11:03,260 --> 04:11:10,120
I just think that that's irresponsible and I would think that our voters and citizens would agree

3015
04:11:10,120 --> 04:11:10,600
about.

3016
04:11:11,260 --> 04:11:17,920
And so we have to provide for some expansion and this option be as we discussed last week.

3017
04:11:18,820 --> 04:11:28,860
We could easily say, let's go with option one, but then, of course, we're full day one with no room for any kind of expansion.

3018
04:11:30,180 --> 04:11:38,820
So taking all of that into consideration, I think we mentioned that last week, and we also support option B.

3019
04:11:38,820 --> 04:11:42,660
I'm grateful that the price came down a couple of million dollars.

3020
04:11:42,660 --> 04:11:48,700
I hope that you can work, but that's where we're at in the school we're going to do.

3021
04:11:49,500 --> 04:11:54,520
John, I'd like to thank First of all, our committee, Mr. Engelsbake, Mr.

3022
04:11:54,860 --> 04:12:01,280
Calmie and our staff and administrators and consultants that worked on this.

3023
04:12:01,280 --> 04:12:06,740
In my review of the project in question that I had, it seemed pretty apparent to me that

3024
04:12:06,740 --> 04:12:08,340
we've done basically three things.

3025
04:12:08,340 --> 04:12:14,480
we've taken a little more time than I would like, I'll apologize to anybody for maybe some

3026
04:12:14,480 --> 04:12:20,360
of my points of impatience but I think what has come out of this is what is really the

3027
04:12:20,360 --> 04:12:30,260
best for the taxpayer first of all and what it has done will allow us to do is provide

3028
04:12:30,260 --> 04:12:40,320
an operative facility that's safe for the people operating it, being detained by it.

3029
04:12:40,580 --> 04:12:43,540
And that's pretty important because I said it in this courtroom before.

3030
04:12:44,300 --> 04:12:51,680
If I had to pick a single point that this county is vulnerable to liability from the risk

3031
04:12:51,680 --> 04:12:59,180
of an aged facility that's undersized, we've got, as you saw, they were in a two percent

3032
04:12:59,180 --> 04:13:05,040
group of counties in the state of Texas that sends out the number of people we do that outsource.

3033
04:13:05,780 --> 04:13:11,720
That's our risk and we had to make some of these people wait a little longer because we're

3034
04:13:11,720 --> 04:13:16,540
in here reviewing some general circumstances of legality in an executive session.

3035
04:13:17,880 --> 04:13:22,340
I can't see that list getting smaller unless we do something about our drove facility.

3036
04:13:23,500 --> 04:13:27,740
I think we've done a good job of providing the voters an opportunity to

3037
04:13:29,660 --> 04:13:39,880
approved the project that makes the best use of the current facility and what we need and provides in the future for the expansion when it's needed.

3038
04:13:40,540 --> 04:13:49,900
And I agree with you Commissioner Engels made that building a facility for five to seven thousand dollars a less than a million dollars a less right now.

3039
04:13:49,900 --> 04:13:52,860
That the day we move into, we don't have any additional spice.

3040
04:13:53,580 --> 04:13:55,280
I don't think that's good planning either.

3041
04:13:55,780 --> 04:14:00,700
But I've been think that this proposal will take care of this county's needs in those terms.

3042
04:14:01,360 --> 04:14:05,260
The next three to five may be as much as 17 years or so.

3043
04:14:05,880 --> 04:14:07,180
That's my small statement.

3044
04:14:07,760 --> 04:14:08,800
Thank you.

3045
04:14:11,810 --> 04:14:12,310
Good turn.

3046
04:14:13,390 --> 04:14:17,330
Well, I looked at the trends in law enforcement, but then

3047
04:14:17,330 --> 04:14:23,810
especially, you know, the certain businesses where you can automate, do robotics and all sorts of things.

3048
04:14:24,710 --> 04:14:28,950
But jails are one of the places where it's still going to take a lot of people,

3049
04:14:29,530 --> 04:14:32,830
judge them at the skill to be there to operate that jail.

3050
04:14:33,510 --> 04:14:37,110
Certain things you can automate, some things you can, and the people in there.

3051
04:14:37,930 --> 04:14:46,770
And so we've got to make an effort to make sure we have the very best adequate number of people there to operate it.

3052
04:14:46,770 --> 04:14:52,090
That's going to keep us all out of trouble and provide the best service and efficiency we can.

3053
04:14:53,430 --> 04:14:59,710
I've said all along that, the jail is one thing, but the escalating price is going to be the cost of people.

3054
04:15:00,560 --> 04:15:12,040
And then the cost of maintenance, every year we're going to have to budget money to keep that jail functional so that it will last 25 years still be serviceable.

3055
04:15:12,400 --> 04:15:22,380
But I really applaud the jail committee that how you thought about everything that I think is needed to be expandable, to be functional, to be efficient.

3056
04:15:24,720 --> 04:15:28,220
I thought a lot about it, you know, there are a lot of good things and I really appreciate

3057
04:15:28,220 --> 04:15:33,220
all the hard work and run into you and your staff and it's okay and all the people that

3058
04:15:33,220 --> 04:15:36,940
have worked on this to try to give you the best information advice we can.

3059
04:15:37,600 --> 04:15:40,440
So I'm now at this point with the entertainer motion.

3060
04:15:41,300 --> 04:15:47,180
And Judge, I just have questions regarding the process,

3061
04:15:50,300 --> 04:15:53,100
the actual, the actual, the actual,

3062
04:15:53,320 --> 04:15:56,200
the actual, I mean the actual propositions I should state.

3063
04:15:57,860 --> 04:16:03,680
That would really take action under 23, as I understand it.

3064
04:16:03,680 --> 04:16:04,180
That's correct.

3065
04:16:04,180 --> 04:16:08,200
So, hey, Mark,

3066
04:16:10,700 --> 04:16:17,360
you timed a program here, but the actual action must call in the election

3067
04:16:17,360 --> 04:16:19,600
and fall positions is a side of 23.

3068
04:16:20,700 --> 04:16:20,720
Correct.

3069
04:16:21,020 --> 04:16:21,860
So, would they call that?

3070
04:16:22,280 --> 04:16:27,860
So, the actual call here is that we find the move full with a bottle action.

3071
04:16:28,320 --> 04:16:33,580
You can provide guidance under this item because I believe it's posted for action, but if

3072
04:16:34,720 --> 04:16:38,100
It's the election order you're looking for, that is item 23.

3073
04:16:38,800 --> 04:16:39,360
That's correct.

3074
04:16:40,600 --> 04:16:42,780
So I guess our votes should be open out of 23.

3075
04:16:44,120 --> 04:16:45,120
Yes, or that day.

3076
04:16:45,120 --> 04:16:46,560
That's why I was trying to cite judge overall.

3077
04:16:47,200 --> 04:16:52,040
If the court, for example, just to come back, we'll have court tomorrow, whatever.

3078
04:16:52,200 --> 04:16:53,580
We could take an action there, but really,

3079
04:16:54,600 --> 04:16:57,700
what's the court has on things that they'd like to change.

3080
04:16:58,400 --> 04:17:02,780
At this point time, I believe that kind of concludes our 24th workshop,

3081
04:17:02,780 --> 04:17:12,680
and then build address the issue of Proposition 1 and perhaps Proposition 2 and item 23.

3082
04:17:13,180 --> 04:17:13,840
We have the KenD.

3083
04:17:14,360 --> 04:17:19,360
We will do that at some point.

3084
04:17:19,680 --> 04:17:21,060
You want to move the head with the workshops?

3085
04:17:21,440 --> 04:17:23,180
We have a judge.

3086
04:17:23,560 --> 04:17:31,840
We indicated in a parenthetical reference in item 23 that we would go through workshops which

3087
04:17:31,840 --> 04:17:38,980
represent items 24 25 and 26 before we open item 23 so I think we should open item 25 next.

3088
04:17:39,900 --> 04:17:40,200
Okay.

3089
04:17:40,240 --> 04:17:41,380
What is the glass of counsel?

3090
04:17:42,340 --> 04:17:48,800
Before we leave that disney or D.I.R. Sheriff any elected that is here as part of this process

3091
04:17:48,800 --> 04:17:50,300
and program here to say anything.

3092
04:17:51,140 --> 04:17:53,140
We y'all good.

3093
04:17:53,460 --> 04:17:54,240
I'll talk to Sheriff.

3094
04:17:54,420 --> 04:17:55,840
It took eight years in the sheriff.

3095
04:17:59,440 --> 04:18:00,000
Okay.

3096
04:18:02,940 --> 04:18:19,240
We also have the material set, the slides, and there's other materials that will be placed on the website for the citizens and the constituents can take a look and we'll be providing information as we as we go for as well.

3097
04:18:19,480 --> 04:18:28,600
I didn't want to recognize Curt Party in Jeff Bradley, with H.O.K. Mike Kaiman, with Turner Construction and of course our teams with Cody News. Thank you.

3098
04:18:28,600 --> 04:18:36,340
Thank all of you, and just to Jeff Barton and Katie, Katie our here and we appreciate

3099
04:18:36,340 --> 04:18:42,800
your efforts as well, before the process of educating the public, we appreciate that.

3100
04:18:43,080 --> 04:18:48,080
Number 25, workshop related proposed transportation improvements around Hayes County and the

3101
04:18:48,080 --> 04:18:53,920
possibility of a November 2016 bond proposition related there too and I have three people to

3102
04:18:53,920 --> 04:19:03,180
public speaking, public comment if they're still here. I have Charlie Flatton, Barbara Hobson,

3103
04:19:03,520 --> 04:19:11,920
and David Baker. I think Miss Hobson stepped out. Maybe she'd be back later. We'll ask her to speak if she comes back.

3104
04:19:13,420 --> 04:19:18,840
Mr. Flatton, why don't you let these people shirt? Mr. Flatton, would you like to speak?

3105
04:19:23,190 --> 04:19:24,530
Good afternoon.

3106
04:19:26,270 --> 04:19:26,670
Thank you.

3107
04:19:28,640 --> 04:19:32,460
And you're speaking for the Hill Country Alliance?

3108
04:19:33,060 --> 04:19:34,320
Yes, sir.

3109
04:19:36,540 --> 04:19:36,620
Okay.

3110
04:19:37,020 --> 04:19:42,860
Hi, I'm speaking for the 820 supporters of the Hill Country Alliance who reside in Hayes County.

3111
04:19:45,040 --> 04:19:49,320
Hill Country Alliance recognizes the Hayes County Commissioner's Board in Judge,

3112
04:19:49,320 --> 04:19:52,940
the critical role they play in overseeing the county's health and prosperity

3113
04:19:52,940 --> 04:19:55,640
to the protection of its natural assets.

3114
04:19:57,060 --> 04:19:59,940
Process of living property values in scenic cities.

3115
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:06,420
Senate, watersheds, and nice type of reservation are all protected by responsible development and rural portions of pay's county.

3116
04:20:07,480 --> 04:20:12,500
And HCA appreciates continued efforts in stewarding these resources by the sport.

3117
04:20:16,420 --> 04:20:23,340
We know that substantial road and water infrastructure projects can lead to increased public debt and greater tax burden for property owners.

3118
04:20:23,340 --> 04:20:29,780
More groundwater pumping, increase the produce cover greater stormwater runoff, and a rapid

3119
04:20:29,780 --> 04:20:34,600
condition for a sprawl of which this county court has a little or more authority to

3120
04:20:34,600 --> 04:20:35,280
redress.

3121
04:20:37,400 --> 04:20:42,120
Furthermore, these projects can reduce property values through rights of way and eminent domain

3122
04:20:42,120 --> 04:20:42,820
contracts.

3123
04:20:45,000 --> 04:20:50,300
Urban growth needs to be accommodated and for infrastructure reasons that growth should

3124
04:20:50,300 --> 04:20:55,340
be concentrated on the IS-35 port or where possible and where available.

3125
04:20:56,100 --> 04:20:59,520
And where the emergency services and traffic arteries are already in place.

3126
04:21:01,500 --> 04:21:07,480
For these reasons, with regards to item number 25 of country headlines, we respectfully request

3127
04:21:07,480 --> 04:21:12,320
that funds to purchase and can demorize away from the scenic and rural port or should be

3128
04:21:12,320 --> 04:21:13,680
specifically excluded.

3129
04:21:14,560 --> 04:21:21,060
funds for FM150 should be limited to specific safety improvements, approaches of seedic easements,

3130
04:21:21,460 --> 04:21:26,580
such the road remains of rural road rather than expanded into a major divided arterial

3131
04:21:26,580 --> 04:21:27,040
way.

3132
04:21:27,560 --> 04:21:32,460
That would encourage new developments among the roadway and contribute to increased flooding

3133
04:21:32,460 --> 04:21:33,160
on an increase.

3134
04:21:34,420 --> 04:21:38,500
And third, Professor Roadbound should be a lot of primarily to support new development

3135
04:21:38,500 --> 04:21:43,260
economic growth in the eastern portion of this county, plus to existing emergency services

3136
04:21:44,000 --> 04:21:46,680
traffic alterations and water resources.

3137
04:21:49,580 --> 04:21:52,000
Thank you very much. How long have you lived in

3138
04:21:52,000 --> 04:21:58,440
Hase County? I did not live in Hase County. I was born in Co-Mount County. How long have you lived

3139
04:21:58,440 --> 04:22:05,560
in Co-Mount County? I lived in Co-Mount and Travis County for 50 years. Good.

3140
04:22:08,110 --> 04:22:08,670
Any other questions?

3141
04:22:09,190 --> 04:22:16,290
So what is your opinion of the presentation plan of Travis County? Probably we could use some

3142
04:22:16,290 --> 04:22:21,490
I think that anybody who's driven in trash county knows that it's terrible.

3143
04:22:24,430 --> 04:22:27,330
What do you think about the tragic planning, Comel County?

3144
04:22:29,500 --> 04:22:31,140
Well, depends on where you are in Comel County.

3145
04:22:32,060 --> 04:22:36,340
I love some of the draws in Comel County and some of them have run terrible,

3146
04:22:37,060 --> 04:22:41,320
formerly because of stop lights and unplanned development in an incorporated county area.

3147
04:22:41,660 --> 04:22:42,920
So you don't live in case county.

3148
04:22:43,640 --> 04:22:47,200
But you want us to build everything that we've built in east of 35.

3149
04:22:47,200 --> 04:22:48,860
Is that correct?

3150
04:22:49,040 --> 04:22:50,160
Is that what your strength was?

3151
04:22:51,260 --> 04:22:55,960
No, I would like for you to think about the authority you had to controlling growth

3152
04:22:55,960 --> 04:23:01,840
in areas where the county is where there is no unaccorporated areas in cities.

3153
04:23:03,790 --> 04:23:04,990
Do you live in the country?

3154
04:23:06,830 --> 04:23:08,410
Or do you live in the county?

3155
04:23:09,530 --> 04:23:11,030
Or do you live in the county?

3156
04:23:11,430 --> 04:23:12,070
Tribes County.

3157
04:23:12,630 --> 04:23:12,930
Tribes County.

3158
04:23:13,030 --> 04:23:13,510
What do you live in?

3159
04:23:13,650 --> 04:23:14,070
Tribes County.

3160
04:23:14,350 --> 04:23:14,590
Tribes County.

3161
04:23:14,630 --> 04:23:15,250
Tribes County.

3162
04:23:15,870 --> 04:23:16,730
What city?

3163
04:23:17,570 --> 04:23:18,590
I'm in the county.

3164
04:23:21,990 --> 04:23:23,210
Okay, thank you.

3165
04:23:23,270 --> 04:23:25,170
And I have physical copies of this.

3166
04:23:25,550 --> 04:23:26,130
If you get the quarter.

3167
04:23:26,550 --> 04:23:26,770
All right.

3168
04:23:27,110 --> 04:23:28,510
The clerk should put it in the report.

3169
04:23:29,150 --> 04:23:29,390
Thank you very much.

3170
04:23:29,390 --> 04:23:29,550
Thank you.

3171
04:23:29,870 --> 04:23:31,470
Thank you.

3172
04:23:31,610 --> 04:23:32,090
Okay.

3173
04:23:32,890 --> 04:23:34,590
And this hobson is not back yet.

3174
04:23:34,870 --> 04:23:35,510
David Laker.

3175
04:23:41,530 --> 04:23:42,370
Is there anything welcome?

3176
04:23:43,050 --> 04:23:44,450
Mr. S. Thank you.

3177
04:23:45,010 --> 04:23:45,830
I know where you live.

3178
04:23:45,990 --> 04:23:47,110
You know I live the industry.

3179
04:23:47,890 --> 04:23:48,670
And whoever is kidding.

3180
04:23:49,390 --> 04:23:52,670
Whoever played for a rain in August.

3181
04:23:52,670 --> 04:24:04,150
Thank you all, I know you all care deeply about this county and our citizens and the extraordinary challenge you all have in guiding balancing

3182
04:24:04,150 --> 04:24:15,170
double-digit population growth with thoughtful and youth planning is difficult for Texas counties with limited authority to regulate density for the type of development that wants to come to this area.

3183
04:24:15,170 --> 04:24:21,310
You do have authority to guide growth through regulating lot-sizing on-site suits facilities, road standards.

3184
04:24:21,930 --> 04:24:29,710
As this authority may be adequate for rural area, it is probably not enough for an area that's so rapidly growing.

3185
04:24:31,390 --> 04:24:41,810
I'm going to make some suggestions about lobbying our Texas legislature, so don't cheat me now, but for additional tools in using your current power to consider the following recommendations.

3186
04:24:42,630 --> 04:24:50,650
Please consider lobbying for legislation to designate segments of FN-150, Rancho 12, FN-3237,

3187
04:24:50,930 --> 04:24:55,170
FN-32, Delos backbone, as scenic Texas byways.

3188
04:24:56,190 --> 04:24:59,930
Hase County in Campo could consider adding scenic.

3189
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:05,520
By way, as a road designation, rather than mad for, et cetera, the signet by way designation

3190
04:25:05,520 --> 04:25:11,900
can be called hill country, arterial standards can be set for things like shoulders for safety,

3191
04:25:12,960 --> 04:25:19,540
off-road bypass, turn lanes, signet easements on both sides of these key roads, et cetera.

3192
04:25:21,080 --> 04:25:26,980
And please consider lobbying that Texas Legislature grant the necessary tools and authority

3193
04:25:26,980 --> 04:25:31,240
to allow county counties in these rapidly growing urban corridors,

3194
04:25:33,400 --> 04:25:36,720
the ability to develop regional land use plans.

3195
04:25:37,320 --> 04:25:41,440
I know this is a challenging thing, but to guide more sustainable growth,

3196
04:25:41,660 --> 04:25:43,500
that lowers the ecological footprint of development,

3197
04:25:44,020 --> 04:25:47,680
to comply with the caring capacity of local land and water resources.

3198
04:25:48,840 --> 04:25:53,400
Please continue the early leadership to involve and engage

3199
04:25:53,400 --> 04:25:59,700
landowners interested citizens in comprehensive regional worship planning processes to identify

3200
04:25:59,700 --> 04:26:05,920
community vision goals for these rapidly growing areas. And please direct any investments

3201
04:26:05,920 --> 04:26:13,300
of the now or feature bond dollars for roads and western part of his county of use for the

3202
04:26:13,300 --> 04:26:19,040
necessary safety improvements such as turn lanes, shoulders, drainage projects, protect water quality

3203
04:26:19,040 --> 04:26:23,500
recharge it in Trinity and Edwards and flood mitigation for the creeks and rivers.

3204
04:26:25,080 --> 04:26:29,940
And please consider developing standards that will create incentives and mandate water

3205
04:26:29,940 --> 04:26:34,840
neutral development, low impact development moving forward that will not require additional

3206
04:26:34,840 --> 04:26:40,580
water pipelines, new development models exist that use and reuse water in sustainable ways.

3207
04:26:40,640 --> 04:26:42,660
This should be the new norm over the aquifer.

3208
04:26:42,660 --> 04:26:45,200
And please note

3209
04:26:47,660 --> 04:27:03,620
that I got one more sentence if I can say that, please consider expanding the current incentives to help willing landowners who want to steward their land to keep their properties intact and protect their property rights and ecological services.

3210
04:27:04,340 --> 04:27:14,340
We all benefit from this wealth balance impacted new growth and prevent further fragmentation of land and degradation of water quality and quantity and protect wildlife habitat.

3211
04:27:14,340 --> 04:27:20,680
improve the quality of life for everybody in Ace County and this growing tourism industry that

3212
04:27:20,680 --> 04:27:26,060
we have. So thank you for this opportunity, Judge, and thank you all for your service.

3213
04:27:26,300 --> 04:27:31,980
Please believe in that, Amy. I live out of the well at the 14th of five Mount Sharp Road in

3214
04:27:32,840 --> 04:27:38,660
the Wife and I have a little place in South Austin. She has a her business there in South Austin,

3215
04:27:38,660 --> 04:27:43,840
so it's been a couple of days a week there. I do analyze the county just gave $100,000 to

3216
04:27:43,840 --> 04:27:46,020
Martin Edwards, last week?

3217
04:27:46,620 --> 04:27:47,200
That's fantastic.

3218
04:27:47,540 --> 04:27:50,140
If you looked at their website, I have sir.

3219
04:27:50,300 --> 04:27:54,420
Thank you for most the additional water being brought

3220
04:27:54,420 --> 04:27:56,200
into Hayes County on the website.

3221
04:27:57,080 --> 04:27:58,080
How do you feel about that?

3222
04:27:58,560 --> 04:28:02,140
You know, I think if you're going to bring water into an area,

3223
04:28:02,740 --> 04:28:07,060
you really need to have the land use authority to manage that.

3224
04:28:07,080 --> 04:28:11,460
As we looked at the impact of the LCRA pipeline that came

3225
04:28:11,460 --> 04:28:19,240
into dripping springs to alleviate the groundwater, you know, shortages were actually now using

3226
04:28:19,240 --> 04:28:25,480
no groundwater that we did before. That line went in and dripping springs is applying for

3227
04:28:25,480 --> 04:28:31,420
doubling of their permit tomorrow night. So I think that was a lack of planning to ensure

3228
04:28:31,420 --> 04:28:39,080
that that development form was going to be served by that water and not have that insillary

3229
04:28:39,080 --> 04:28:41,800
growth, eat up all the excess groundwater there.

3230
04:28:42,200 --> 04:28:45,280
So, in your mind, it's not about water, it's about growth.

3231
04:28:46,140 --> 04:28:51,360
I think it's about managing it so that that you're going to growth, yes, sir.

3232
04:28:51,680 --> 04:28:57,360
I think it's, you can't separate the two because you can't have the growth without the water,

3233
04:28:57,900 --> 04:29:02,920
but I think what I'm promoting today, and I'm speaking to my own behalf, not for the

3234
04:29:02,920 --> 04:29:08,120
watershed association today, but I think it's really about, there are technologies in these

3235
04:29:08,120 --> 04:29:13,460
rural areas where we can catch at water for roofs, we can recycle it, or on-site.

3236
04:29:14,680 --> 04:29:20,460
But when we build a dense form like we did in dripping springs, and then we don't use

3237
04:29:20,460 --> 04:29:25,000
that surface water, we're going to go back to that groundwater, and that's two dense

3238
04:29:25,000 --> 04:29:30,160
of form to be off-fed off of the groundwater to supplies we have here.

3239
04:29:30,440 --> 04:29:35,080
I know at some point we're going to have water from the east to come here, but if it goes

3240
04:29:35,080 --> 04:29:40,760
out and it spals into the health country and creates even more unsustainable ground water

3241
04:29:40,760 --> 04:29:41,200
development.

3242
04:29:41,560 --> 04:29:46,540
That's not going to help our creeks and ravers are the investments the county's made and places

3243
04:29:46,540 --> 04:29:48,620
like Jacob's well and blue holes.

3244
04:29:49,520 --> 04:29:53,620
It's want to make sure that we don't take more than it's going back into the offer.

3245
04:29:54,520 --> 04:29:55,700
So you won't more government.

3246
04:29:56,080 --> 04:29:59,980
You will thus have land use authority and zoning and all those.

3247
04:30:02,480 --> 04:30:21,060
Well, I think it's really planning. It's really, at asking people to live here what kind of vision they have for this area, really engaging people. I think, like you all did in this watershed protection plan for cybersecurity, doing on, on, synchry, what, what did you come from?

3248
04:30:21,720 --> 04:30:26,680
where I grew up, I grew up in Missouri and Kansas City, so why did you come here?

3249
04:30:27,360 --> 04:30:29,080
Well, I came down here.

3250
04:30:29,180 --> 04:30:35,300
Guys says long time ago, I had a job here and somebody told me to go to Wrim really

3251
04:30:35,300 --> 04:30:40,260
because it was a really nice place and I happened to fall in Jake as well and the rest, you know,

3252
04:30:40,420 --> 04:30:44,380
is kind of history. But this fell in love with it. First time I drove down that

3253
04:30:44,380 --> 04:30:47,600
I've answered 12 and saw 337 is heavy.

3254
04:30:48,260 --> 04:30:50,080
It's a beautiful idea to play our agreement.

3255
04:30:50,420 --> 04:30:51,020
I agree with you.

3256
04:30:51,940 --> 04:30:53,660
But we've got to use our brains.

3257
04:30:55,760 --> 04:30:56,820
Do you have brain water collection?

3258
04:30:58,260 --> 04:30:59,160
No, I did.

3259
04:30:59,960 --> 04:31:01,360
Do you have a time in your shower?

3260
04:31:02,620 --> 04:31:03,420
No, I did.

3261
04:31:03,780 --> 04:31:06,340
Do you have water use that you're out?

3262
04:31:07,360 --> 04:31:07,620
I did.

3263
04:31:08,440 --> 04:31:09,940
So you're presented to the choir.

3264
04:31:10,880 --> 04:31:17,200
We have to be, you know, it's amazing to me that we stand on the shoulders of giants

3265
04:31:17,200 --> 04:31:22,320
in the comfort of building highways, but we stand on the shoulder of mittens when it comes

3266
04:31:22,320 --> 04:31:23,520
to the water.

3267
04:31:24,000 --> 04:31:28,660
And Texas is going to have to do something statewide about water, yes, sir.

3268
04:31:29,000 --> 04:31:35,800
We can't just focus on one little area of salt problem, but I thank you for your comments

3269
04:31:35,800 --> 04:31:40,160
I know you care deeply about the issue and I appreciate that.

3270
04:31:40,360 --> 04:31:41,700
Thank you so much for that.

3271
04:31:42,140 --> 04:31:43,240
Well, I appreciate you guys' service.

3272
04:31:43,520 --> 04:31:48,080
You have a really tough job and I appreciate all the time and energy you put into it.

3273
04:31:48,240 --> 04:31:48,640
Thank you.

3274
04:31:48,640 --> 04:31:49,640
Thank you for hearing me today.

3275
04:31:49,940 --> 04:31:51,000
Thank you.

3276
04:31:51,920 --> 04:31:52,280
Okay.

3277
04:31:52,360 --> 04:31:53,220
That's all I have listed.

3278
04:31:53,480 --> 04:31:54,500
It's Ms. Hopson back here.

3279
04:31:54,620 --> 04:31:55,820
I don't want to see her.

3280
04:31:57,200 --> 04:32:02,840
So please, the court will move on with the workshop related proposal.

3281
04:32:02,840 --> 04:32:13,120
Now, Mike, someone up, you're largely regalist, which is now known that there's been a

3282
04:32:13,120 --> 04:32:19,340
lot of effort to really look at these projects critically and say it's what is really

3283
04:32:19,340 --> 04:32:27,500
needed, what is the most advantageous for the most number of people and you know, in my opinion,

3284
04:32:27,500 --> 04:32:35,420
is that highways are necessary for the delivery of services to our people, for an EMS, and

3285
04:32:35,420 --> 04:32:41,540
fire, and share certificates. So it's not just for the, for the public to travel on, it's

3286
04:32:41,540 --> 04:32:47,700
also for the people to come to help them. That's what they're troubled. So it's over fire, EMS,

3287
04:32:47,860 --> 04:32:52,540
it's all of those things, for a factor, and I know you've looked at it that way. Then we have

3288
04:32:52,540 --> 04:33:04,740
Rose, they're necessary to call those schools and things we've had to do to make it easy for people to take their kids to school and be safe at school, so I know you have a list that's going ahead.

3289
04:33:05,360 --> 04:33:13,940
Thank you, Judge. We won't take very long. I think over the last four or six weeks our team working with Jerry and Adam and your staff and your in your road committee.

3290
04:33:13,940 --> 04:33:15,660
It's been a lot of time with all the commission.

3291
04:33:15,800 --> 04:33:18,780
If we've seen a lot of time with lawn, it's well to look at contracts.

3292
04:33:19,140 --> 04:33:23,080
The least you have in front of you today represents all those discussions.

3293
04:33:23,440 --> 04:33:26,080
It's a little confusing about how we broke it up.

3294
04:33:26,180 --> 04:33:32,840
I apologize for that, but we were trying to look at what kind of language you might have at the same time working with Mark Kennedy.

3295
04:33:33,040 --> 04:33:41,380
So when you talk about the top there, name projects, those would be that if the court chooses could be specifically spelled out in the bond ballot.

3296
04:33:41,380 --> 04:33:45,260
Now, I know there are some of the commissioners are thinking about maybe adding some other projects

3297
04:33:45,260 --> 04:33:48,180
removing some around, but that's obviously item 23.

3298
04:33:48,880 --> 04:33:54,060
Where we are right now though with all the projects is a little over 153 million dollars.

3299
04:33:54,860 --> 04:34:04,700
And specifically to your point, Judge, I think all the commissioners and certainly the consultants and your staff have lifted all these things from a criteria standpoint.

3300
04:34:04,700 --> 04:34:12,100
I would say that safety and mobility were two of the highest priorities of trying to address

3301
04:34:12,100 --> 04:34:16,820
where there's existing mobility problems, where there's existing safety and operational problems,

3302
04:34:17,040 --> 04:34:21,520
where there's existing accident issues, try to use those as a high priority.

3303
04:34:22,200 --> 04:34:27,260
Second, then looking at just like you're doing for jail, we're going to plan for the future.

3304
04:34:27,560 --> 04:34:31,000
I mean, spending money today, if the road's going to be full of the day, it's open,

3305
04:34:31,000 --> 04:34:34,900
how we can start protecting those quarters. The land use issue that we've just discussed

3306
04:34:34,900 --> 04:34:40,220
is a great example. If you can identify these quarters and protect them, you're going

3307
04:34:40,220 --> 04:34:43,540
to be buying an ex-domestation or subdivision someday, because you're eventually going to need

3308
04:34:43,540 --> 04:34:47,880
to build those projects. So that was another priority. And then last but not least, was economic

3309
04:34:47,880 --> 04:34:52,960
development. You know, the growth you've had is no doubt been attributed to the fact

3310
04:34:52,960 --> 04:34:56,780
that you've addressed the mobility issues of this county and tried to provide additional

3311
04:34:58,280 --> 04:34:59,960
So those are the kind of criteria to do.

3312
04:35:00,720 --> 04:35:06,880
With your commissioners who know their precincts better than anybody, they've all reached out and talked to their citizens, their cities.

3313
04:35:07,860 --> 04:35:13,000
So I think I can automatically stand here and tell you that everything on this list is certainly needed.

3314
04:35:13,860 --> 04:35:21,080
If you weren't building the jail, I could probably double the amount of money here on the other projects that had to be dropped off because there wasn't enough money to do those.

3315
04:35:22,000 --> 04:35:25,680
And I think these projects are once a lot of them can be done very quickly.

3316
04:35:25,680 --> 04:35:30,180
Especially out of the safety projects, but you're also the implanning for the future.

3317
04:35:31,780 --> 04:35:34,260
So again, I've ended up with the commissioners to talk about there.

3318
04:35:34,820 --> 04:35:36,180
But we can answer any questions you have.

3319
04:35:36,320 --> 04:35:40,780
I think this list represents adds of about 10-15 this morning.

3320
04:35:42,080 --> 04:35:44,760
The best input that we've had from the court.

3321
04:35:44,960 --> 04:35:48,920
And I'm real happy to glad that you've got dry needs, low water crossings,

3322
04:35:49,140 --> 04:35:53,400
and brick replacements there as well as environmental mitigation and conservation,

3323
04:35:53,400 --> 04:35:55,520
and non-motorized transportation.

3324
04:35:56,320 --> 04:35:58,680
So those are important for the future of Hayes County.

3325
04:35:59,680 --> 04:36:01,940
And that's, that's money will spent

3326
04:36:01,940 --> 04:36:05,200
because that prevents problems and loss

3327
04:36:05,200 --> 04:36:06,100
and all sorts of things.

3328
04:36:06,420 --> 04:36:08,580
So the shares to probably still in a great job

3329
04:36:08,580 --> 04:36:10,240
this morning, I got turned around three times

3330
04:36:10,240 --> 04:36:11,720
trying to get here, so.

3331
04:36:12,200 --> 04:36:13,620
And that's actually a really good thing.

3332
04:36:15,820 --> 04:36:16,980
They do a great job.

3333
04:36:17,360 --> 04:36:19,660
And text I was out on, I think, on 9, 6, 7,

3334
04:36:19,700 --> 04:36:21,160
this morning as well.

3335
04:36:21,160 --> 04:36:24,160
It's all answering your questions you have, or...

3336
04:36:25,340 --> 04:36:26,960
No, no, no, this backwards.

3337
04:36:28,020 --> 04:36:30,620
I'd like to make one, I'd just want to make sure the courts are wearing.

3338
04:36:31,680 --> 04:36:35,420
The importance of the nine projects, and Mark tell me, correct me if I'm wrong.

3339
04:36:36,480 --> 04:36:42,220
If we put something in the nine project list before we can do anything that's not on that,

3340
04:36:42,460 --> 04:36:44,720
the nine project list, they all have to be done.

3341
04:36:45,080 --> 04:36:50,360
Mark does that include the, I guess what we call the three bucket list also.

3342
04:36:50,360 --> 04:36:57,100
I would think not because you're specifying that you're willing to spend a certain amount

3343
04:36:57,100 --> 04:37:04,120
of funding on the bucket and in essence, even though it's not a specific project, you've

3344
04:37:04,120 --> 04:37:14,920
named that expenditure, it's the savings or the surplus from the named road projects that

3345
04:37:14,920 --> 04:37:19,260
you could not utilize for an unnamed project until you've completed the work on the name

3346
04:37:19,260 --> 04:37:24,580
projects that's been the rule we live with after the 2008 bond and that's the rule we live

3347
04:37:24,580 --> 04:37:25,000
with here.

3348
04:37:25,440 --> 04:37:30,860
You know, in our project we do, there's always someone who's seen the situation when we

3349
04:37:30,860 --> 04:37:36,080
came and built these blue things, all these things that fit together to make the cost of the

3350
04:37:36,080 --> 04:37:40,900
project higher than the budgetaries I want to bring that up so I think it's really important

3351
04:37:40,900 --> 04:37:45,680
what, before we name a project we've got to make sure that there's not something that we would

3352
04:37:45,680 --> 04:37:48,820
think would eventually have to be done before that project, it's not on that list.

3353
04:37:48,820 --> 04:37:52,700
It's a priority road bond project, what we're going to do.

3354
04:37:52,880 --> 04:37:54,940
By the way, I'll just say in advance of,

3355
04:37:55,120 --> 04:37:56,420
before we get too far into this workshop,

3356
04:37:56,600 --> 04:37:58,900
that Julie Houston, Bond's Council is here.

3357
04:37:59,280 --> 04:38:03,040
And I welcome the opportunity to be told I'm wrong

3358
04:38:03,040 --> 04:38:03,980
at any moment.

3359
04:38:04,440 --> 04:38:05,740
And she has a microphone back there.

3360
04:38:06,400 --> 04:38:07,820
So that may happen shortly.

3361
04:38:08,500 --> 04:38:09,760
And so do we.

3362
04:38:10,720 --> 04:38:10,940
Yeah.

3363
04:38:11,300 --> 04:38:12,500
Thank you.

3364
04:38:13,340 --> 04:38:13,460
Thank you.

3365
04:38:14,100 --> 04:38:15,620
She has also told I'm wrong.

3366
04:38:17,280 --> 04:38:24,520
I'll ask the question because the name projects, the very first ones in a point where the

3367
04:38:24,520 --> 04:38:30,800
safety improvements in right away preservation. I know you have it as one and three. I don't

3368
04:38:30,800 --> 04:38:38,060
know how that breaks down. The only reason I say that is because in the numbers, I'm not even sure

3369
04:38:38,060 --> 04:38:41,120
what the limits are, I guess, if would be from

3370
04:38:42,760 --> 04:38:46,320
Hunter to 266 possibly, I'm not sure.

3371
04:38:47,540 --> 04:38:50,080
Is that the limits of that?

3372
04:38:50,340 --> 04:38:52,720
And it's so,

3373
04:38:53,120 --> 04:38:56,480
center point road on the west side of the one corner

3374
04:38:56,480 --> 04:38:59,580
to Commissioner Conflict, and the east side would be the me.

3375
04:39:01,160 --> 04:39:05,700
So, you know, because I prefer to have the SH80 and military

3376
04:39:05,700 --> 04:39:12,520
drive and we have been one 10 intersection improvements as some of my name, the ones and

3377
04:39:12,520 --> 04:39:18,380
not in a point road. And nothing against, you know, your commissioner calling wants to

3378
04:39:18,380 --> 04:39:23,880
have that as one of any projects because it's important to have. So I guess I'm just trying to

3379
04:39:24,920 --> 04:39:34,200
determine, you know, what the limits are and the division of funding because I may want to change that.

3380
04:39:34,200 --> 04:39:42,360
The majority of that money about 3 million of it is for the project from Hunter Road back over to Ranch Road 12 and then there's

3381
04:39:43,740 --> 04:39:44,740
Yeah, going back there

3382
04:39:46,480 --> 04:39:55,540
That's all increasing three and then it was a little bit of money for center point and you're praising behind the mall and then the balance of your center point money is down below

3383
04:39:55,540 --> 04:39:59,840
Other potential projects the other two million dollars for the center port center

3384
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:03,000
Point, improvements, back over to the County Monk.

3385
04:40:03,700 --> 04:40:08,220
You see, that's important because that road between the out of this ball has been actually screwed up.

3386
04:40:08,620 --> 04:40:10,520
So that's really an important road.

3387
04:40:10,820 --> 04:40:21,380
Well, it is, but I think we have sufficient right away already on that road to where we've wanted to make improvements on its political safety improvements.

3388
04:40:21,900 --> 04:40:28,520
You know, we could do that without putting it in, so that's where I just, I don't want to get into it.

3389
04:40:28,520 --> 04:40:34,940
I think the purpose of all this we've done is so that you can say what is the most important

3390
04:40:34,940 --> 04:40:42,020
thing in transportation and you're free to say that you get your right on it is that

3391
04:40:42,020 --> 04:40:46,460
I have the purpose I think I think that's one of them it also it's I think it's very important

3392
04:40:46,460 --> 04:40:50,700
that when you go out to the voters you let them know the types of projects you're thinking about

3393
04:40:50,700 --> 04:40:54,840
doing and that's why a lot of courts or cities you can put them in their bond language.

3394
04:40:54,840 --> 04:40:59,900
other courts, your neighbors to the North and Wings and County actually adopted the entire list

3395
04:40:59,900 --> 04:41:04,220
that this is what we're going to build. And then they only put maybe a half a dozen of them

3396
04:41:04,680 --> 04:41:12,220
into the, into the, into the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, we're going to do this.

3397
04:41:12,400 --> 04:41:17,860
That's right. You know, everybody is a little different. And so I think that the citizens of

3398
04:41:17,860 --> 04:41:19,980
County should be involved in the process.

3399
04:41:20,760 --> 04:41:23,220
You're money, so to pay for it, let's do that.

3400
04:41:23,560 --> 04:41:26,960
Yeah. Well, the one other thing too, Judges, I think, as Dan pointed out this morning talking

3401
04:41:26,960 --> 04:41:32,100
about, we have not said now, your team is not sitting down and looked at the cash flows.

3402
04:41:32,920 --> 04:41:37,720
You know, because you know, I doubt very seriously when you go sell 80 million dollars

3403
04:41:37,720 --> 04:41:40,660
worth of bonds day one to work on that list of main projects.

3404
04:41:41,200 --> 04:41:42,720
So we haven't really looked at that in detail.

3405
04:41:42,980 --> 04:41:47,020
And the other thing we need to explain to people is we're not talking about selling all the bonds

3406
04:41:47,020 --> 04:41:57,060
on the same way. We pull trances and issues those bonds when we need to do the projects that we

3407
04:41:57,060 --> 04:42:02,220
disclose. And some projects, I think, as you know, for your last bond program, as you

3408
04:42:02,220 --> 04:42:06,960
enter a minute ago, we're going to move a lot faster than the other ones. It's sometimes easier

3409
04:42:06,960 --> 04:42:11,260
to cheaper to build a Western 35 and it is easy, depending on what kind of road you're building.

3410
04:42:11,260 --> 04:42:12,940
Who's acting like that?

3411
04:42:13,180 --> 04:42:19,840
Because you got bridges and all sorts of things in the west, but you got black clay on the east, it makes the road harder to build.

3412
04:42:20,500 --> 04:42:26,180
Well, I first thought I really appreciate the work.

3413
04:42:27,160 --> 04:42:40,320
A lot of times been spent by our colleagues here getting us to this point in our staff and Adam and War of basically counting staff at this point in time.

3414
04:42:41,900 --> 04:42:47,600
And getting us to this point, I think, we're really close with just reinstating things

3415
04:42:47,600 --> 04:42:55,880
that Mike said that I know we all agreed that what I see here in my knowledge of page

3416
04:42:55,880 --> 04:43:03,220
counting and of presentation, there's no throwaway project here, you know, there's no

3417
04:43:03,220 --> 04:43:12,320
often in need, but I think it's going to be, but obviously we have a budget restraints that

3418
04:43:12,320 --> 04:43:20,220
we have to live within and in what level a debt service, this court feels comfortable

3419
04:43:20,220 --> 04:43:28,240
posing to the people we represent for them to make a decision. Second, I think it's very

3420
04:43:28,240 --> 04:43:44,560
important that we are as specific as possible in our proposition language, so that it

3421
04:43:44,560 --> 04:43:50,720
is distinctly clear to citizens of the county,

3422
04:43:52,820 --> 04:43:56,680
what they are voting on. I think that's

3423
04:43:56,680 --> 04:44:04,340
about so important. As Mike stated, it is very different. Judges, you stated it's very different

3424
04:44:04,340 --> 04:44:07,180
in different counties in different type of constituencies.

3425
04:44:10,180 --> 04:44:12,200
Speaking just to the constituencies

3426
04:44:12,200 --> 04:44:14,360
that I directly represent,

3427
04:44:16,440 --> 04:44:25,120
specifics are important, and it's essential to getting their support

3428
04:44:25,120 --> 04:44:34,840
on on these types of things and so I think we need to I would really feel

3429
04:44:34,840 --> 04:44:39,880
comfortable listening as much as we possibly can understand that we still have

3430
04:44:39,880 --> 04:44:47,400
some buckets for for non-transportation I mean non-mode rise thank you judge non-mode

3431
04:44:47,400 --> 04:44:52,240
rise you know the environment all the conservation yes thank you right

3432
04:44:52,240 --> 04:44:58,060
or Twitter, and some of these flood issues, I think that's important.

3433
04:44:58,220 --> 04:44:59,560
I'd like to tease out.

3434
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:09,860
Lastly, with our staff, kind of what's under this 10 million safety bucket and talk about that a little bit more.

3435
04:45:10,760 --> 04:45:20,860
Again, I think the more broader and specific we can be, I think, one is just the right thing.

3436
04:45:20,860 --> 04:45:28,860
The two, it starts to clearly draw a picture of two people that live all over the county.

3437
04:45:29,440 --> 04:45:31,560
What's going on, countywide,

3438
04:45:33,560 --> 04:45:39,160
and what perhaps may be something of a backyard issue to them,

3439
04:45:39,180 --> 04:45:47,560
or something that may use more than other places, people in drip and have a certain piece of the network.

3440
04:45:47,560 --> 04:45:49,960
that they use more than people in St. Marcus,

3441
04:45:50,680 --> 04:45:53,600
beautiful, and cold, and wind-bling, and it's all different.

3442
04:45:53,680 --> 04:45:58,200
So I think it's important to lay that out.

3443
04:45:58,240 --> 04:46:01,320
I'm really glad to see the conservation

3444
04:46:01,320 --> 04:46:03,500
environmental and the non-motorized buckets

3445
04:46:03,500 --> 04:46:05,660
in here along with some of the flood stuff.

3446
04:46:05,800 --> 04:46:08,320
I'd like us to identify a real bit more

3447
04:46:08,320 --> 04:46:12,340
and pull out some of those safety projects

3448
04:46:12,340 --> 04:46:13,380
a bit.

3449
04:46:14,160 --> 04:46:15,920
As you stated, Commissioner is important to know

3450
04:46:15,920 --> 04:46:21,940
But when we identified those, yes, we must meet those projects and up to the point of letting,

3451
04:46:22,100 --> 04:46:25,080
up to the point of letting that we can move forward.

3452
04:46:26,100 --> 04:46:27,600
But that's what I would like to accomplish.

3453
04:46:27,880 --> 04:46:34,860
The second thing I would like to accomplish, besides us prioritizing and reorganizing this a

3454
04:46:34,860 --> 04:46:42,500
little bit, for example, I have no interest in centerpoint from 100 to 12 being in this

3455
04:46:42,500 --> 04:46:43,140
on package,

3456
04:46:45,460 --> 04:46:51,400
so I work on that, I'd much rather, there's much more clear in present

3457
04:46:51,400 --> 04:46:59,460
danger if you have a higher priority on McCarty, right away, the preservation, than that.

3458
04:47:00,140 --> 04:47:04,080
As one example, something in my precinct, I'm certain all colleagues have different things

3459
04:47:04,080 --> 04:47:04,980
they'd like to massage.

3460
04:47:04,980 --> 04:47:16,360
But I also think it's very important that we specify how any of these dollars, whether it

3461
04:47:16,360 --> 04:47:24,680
identified specifically today or there are dollars left over of what they can't be

3462
04:47:24,680 --> 04:47:25,680
used for.

3463
04:47:26,220 --> 04:47:31,440
This commissioner's court, not one member of this court, has any interest of using these

3464
04:47:31,440 --> 04:47:43,980
dollars on any type of capacity expansion on, for example, on FN150, anywhere on FN150,

3465
04:47:44,120 --> 04:47:48,160
but precisely from 3237 to retro 12.

3466
04:47:49,480 --> 04:47:55,480
Let me go further to give a level of security and comfort to people.

3467
04:47:55,480 --> 04:48:14,400
I believe we can build very comfortable putting those same type of conditions on our M-12 from the junction of 12 and 32, heading west all the way to the intersection of our M-12 and F-150.

3468
04:48:17,620 --> 04:48:26,480
And if we need to to get that extra security blanket, that extra level of comfort would be

3469
04:48:26,480 --> 04:48:36,500
happy to make the same type of specific requirement on FM-2325 and on 3237.

3470
04:48:36,500 --> 04:48:44,500
But now we have a very needed basic safety improvement project on FM32-2737.

3471
04:48:46,640 --> 04:48:47,940
I believe that's needed.

3472
04:48:48,460 --> 04:48:51,340
I talk to a lot of subdivisions that live out in my area.

3473
04:48:51,560 --> 04:48:52,620
Use that every day.

3474
04:48:52,920 --> 04:48:53,800
It's become dangerous.

3475
04:48:54,760 --> 04:48:55,880
Let me be clear.

3476
04:48:56,020 --> 04:49:01,000
These are the types of improvements on that you've seen on for the Wimbly folks.

3477
04:49:01,000 --> 04:49:08,680
And on FM-2325 from the High School to Fisherstore Road, this is the type of safety

3478
04:49:08,680 --> 04:49:12,340
improvements you have seen from the junction.

3479
04:49:12,940 --> 04:49:20,240
Going into Sam Markers before you get to one-to-one-world extensions, the same things

3480
04:49:20,240 --> 04:49:25,720
David, as you were talking about, the shoulders and the turn links, things of that nature.

3481
04:49:27,040 --> 04:49:29,320
That has become a dangerous road.

3482
04:49:29,320 --> 04:49:38,420
But we are also going to prove it from the safety standards that people give us the permission to do so with the same process and integrity

3483
04:49:39,060 --> 04:49:45,660
As we have done these other roadways that I think most in our community would say that they appreciate it

3484
04:49:45,660 --> 04:49:53,920
And that is maintaining the essence of what we're trying to keep it in a carbush and not part of the county.

3485
04:49:53,920 --> 04:49:59,480
So, you know, 32, 37, 7, 7, the 150, the Hayes is stored.

3486
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:11,620
It's a treasurer's road. That's which one. From the summer's mill, my pass to 1.15, on 3.37, it goes by saying Stephen's there.

3487
04:50:11,700 --> 04:50:17,640
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's what it is. It's improvement for safety. It's really, it's basically become very tight.

3488
04:50:17,640 --> 04:50:23,660
And so those are the things we're talking about, and so I think it is important.

3489
04:50:24,460 --> 04:50:34,380
There's no desire or need for, we can have the lawyers talk about some language and work with our transportation people.

3490
04:50:35,040 --> 04:50:37,580
But what we're really talking about is additional capacity.

3491
04:50:39,000 --> 04:50:40,720
That's what we're really talking about.

3492
04:50:40,940 --> 04:50:42,640
We'll find the best way to capture that.

3493
04:50:43,380 --> 04:50:46,900
That doesn't handcuff us to where we could have put terminal on something.

3494
04:50:48,200 --> 04:50:50,860
But that's what we're really talking about.

3495
04:50:51,080 --> 04:50:52,680
And I think it would be more than appropriate.

3496
04:50:52,980 --> 04:50:57,100
My colleagues agree, particularly my fellow colleagues in the West,

3497
04:50:58,340 --> 04:51:02,240
to just let's go ahead and let's just lay that out there.

3498
04:51:02,260 --> 04:51:04,940
And legally bind, legally bind that.

3499
04:51:05,480 --> 04:51:10,060
So that people understand it and have a level of comfort

3500
04:51:10,060 --> 04:51:19,280
with this proposition of how dollars could be spent if there were dollars and left over for

3501
04:51:19,280 --> 04:51:20,800
a feature-time project.

3502
04:51:21,260 --> 04:51:25,920
And Commissioner, I don't know if the description he said, my only concern is the

3503
04:51:25,920 --> 04:51:26,860
name projects.

3504
04:51:27,720 --> 04:51:31,780
I don't want them to hinder us from being able to do something to some of these other projects

3505
04:51:31,780 --> 04:51:34,780
because they had to be completed before we can do any of this.

3506
04:51:34,780 --> 04:51:36,400
I guess my example.

3507
04:51:37,520 --> 04:51:41,760
We have 150 the West Relignment right away in utilities.

3508
04:51:43,440 --> 04:51:47,800
Is the I.S. going to delay that four five years?

3509
04:51:48,380 --> 04:51:50,680
And is that going to keep us if that's not a completed project

3510
04:51:50,680 --> 04:51:54,040
from doing another project if we got all these other night ones done?

3511
04:51:54,440 --> 04:51:54,920
I'm not.

3512
04:51:55,100 --> 04:51:55,140
I'm not.

3513
04:51:55,740 --> 04:51:56,560
I'm really long.

3514
04:51:57,300 --> 04:51:57,620
I'm really not.

3515
04:51:57,720 --> 04:52:00,180
Are any of these projects at this?

3516
04:52:00,700 --> 04:52:00,880
Yeah.

3517
04:52:00,880 --> 04:52:06,360
And let me amend my answer earlier because Julie and I have discussed this question about

3518
04:52:06,360 --> 04:52:08,060
the buckets a bit more.

3519
04:52:11,530 --> 04:52:23,330
The buckets, which are represented by environmental litigation, what we call a non-motorized

3520
04:52:23,330 --> 04:52:29,730
transportation, here we have it called per the AG's recommendation, pedestrian walkways

3521
04:52:29,730 --> 04:52:37,170
bicycle transportation improvements. So we can argue semantics all day, but that's how it's

3522
04:52:37,170 --> 04:52:45,770
expressed in a bond proposition language and then low water crossings, correct? If the court

3523
04:52:45,770 --> 04:52:52,390
had in mind for those buckets, something that is not in aid of one of the named projects that it

3524
04:52:52,390 --> 04:52:59,010
would need to wait until the named projects are complete before it can spend the buckets on other

3525
04:52:59,010 --> 04:53:05,650
one named Projects, or if you only have in mind, for instance, a non-motorized transportation

3526
04:53:05,650 --> 04:53:13,870
piece that is associated with and existing county, road, county, road connector or state

3527
04:53:13,870 --> 04:53:20,670
highway that is not named and then you could name that very specifically, specifying only

3528
04:53:20,670 --> 04:53:27,870
bicycle and pedestrian and it could be part of the bond proposition specifically and therefore

3529
04:53:27,870 --> 04:53:28,990
spent immediately.

3530
04:53:30,150 --> 04:53:31,050
Is that understandable?

3531
04:53:31,450 --> 04:53:31,670
I think so.

3532
04:53:32,430 --> 04:53:33,250
You see what I'm trying to get.

3533
04:53:33,270 --> 04:53:34,650
I just don't want to hand, you know.

3534
04:53:34,910 --> 04:53:38,330
Now I think Commissioner Jones, you're talking about additional roadways and I'm talking

3535
04:53:38,330 --> 04:53:39,170
about the buckets.

3536
04:53:39,410 --> 04:53:39,810
Those are slow.

3537
04:53:39,850 --> 04:53:40,790
I'm also talking about additional roadways.

3538
04:53:40,850 --> 04:53:44,270
We have something that we have something that we have our control list delign us.

3539
04:53:44,490 --> 04:53:47,530
Does that we have to wait till that project and completely finish before we do it a

3540
04:53:47,530 --> 04:53:48,330
name project?

3541
04:53:50,130 --> 04:53:50,510
Correct.

3542
04:53:55,150 --> 04:53:59,610
I'm not saying this because we're waiting on a, we're waiting on a, we might be waiting

3543
04:53:59,610 --> 04:54:04,050
Here's on any IS on a project, is that going to hold up us from doing any of these good?

3544
04:54:04,810 --> 04:54:10,550
I would urge you to be as flexible as you can be just for that reason.

3545
04:54:10,910 --> 04:54:18,270
I mean, every county I work with and every bond council I work with have different interpretations of what that means.

3546
04:54:18,550 --> 04:54:22,070
There means just one dollar you have to physically build it.

3547
04:54:22,250 --> 04:54:27,630
I'm not going to practice law up here, but I would urge the court to be just for the reasons you just mentioned to be very careful

3548
04:54:27,630 --> 04:54:32,830
because another high priority project could come up and you could get to it because it wouldn't

3549
04:54:33,390 --> 04:54:34,810
be a part of your life.

3550
04:54:36,710 --> 04:54:42,810
So I think, you know, so let's, we'll need what's that box on, all the schools on, you know,

3551
04:54:42,810 --> 04:54:43,270
a lot of things.

3552
04:54:44,370 --> 04:54:44,490
No.

3553
04:54:44,890 --> 04:54:45,930
For non-mobilization.

3554
04:54:46,410 --> 04:54:46,890
It's beautiful.

3555
04:54:47,850 --> 04:54:47,930
Right.

3556
04:54:48,610 --> 04:54:48,650
So.

3557
04:54:50,630 --> 04:54:51,130
So.

3558
04:54:51,770 --> 04:54:53,370
Mom's like, well, I just can't say.

3559
04:54:53,370 --> 04:54:59,950
I mentioned this just because it was not my precinct but by the way.

3560
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:06,840
So that we have all received multiple emails and made calls and visits regarding the FM-150.

3561
04:55:07,500 --> 04:55:15,200
But can you tell me what those limits are on the FM-150 West Realignment right when you do this?

3562
04:55:16,520 --> 04:55:22,300
Just because there's a section that they're, you know, those calls on the email.

3563
04:55:22,360 --> 04:55:24,320
That's what the question of calling is.

3564
04:55:24,320 --> 04:55:29,420
And I usually speak and do because the real onman is basically considered from the

3565
04:55:29,420 --> 04:55:34,260
Arcton Road in Interstate 35 to a poor in a left in 150 this generally in the

3566
04:55:34,260 --> 04:55:38,960
Royal Ranch Subvision may be east of west of that, it generally and to be honest

3567
04:55:38,960 --> 04:55:44,320
with you that that part of the alignment is not as defined now as it's some other

3568
04:55:44,320 --> 04:55:45,600
portion of it aren't.

3569
04:55:45,780 --> 04:55:49,600
I think Mr. Weaver made the best point in regard for this particular item and

3570
04:55:49,600 --> 04:55:52,260
That is, there's so much

3571
04:55:54,310 --> 04:55:58,370
activity there that if we're not able to do something within a reasonable

3572
04:55:58,370 --> 04:56:04,730
period of time and we have through the process of the realignment effort have gotten to

3573
04:56:04,730 --> 04:56:08,990
a point with the majority of the property owners that there is some reasonable definition

3574
04:56:08,990 --> 04:56:14,530
to a quarter through there and if it's not done in a reasonable time we're going to lose

3575
04:56:14,530 --> 04:56:20,590
a lot of opportunity and find our citizens playing a lot more money someday to try to get

3576
04:56:20,590 --> 04:56:26,750
some of the traffic that's having to go to Center Street in Cal and out either FN 150 or

3577
04:56:26,750 --> 04:56:32,230
up to the head west or come from the west south to the end of the state 35.

3578
04:56:32,870 --> 04:56:46,650
Okay, so I'll say clear, it's just basically just in Cal and currently we have it, we have

3579
04:56:46,650 --> 04:56:53,410
defined on number nine there. So we did define the boundaries. Of course, that's our

3580
04:56:53,410 --> 04:56:58,270
that's Mark's. He put that in the bond language, so that we have that on the list.

3581
04:56:59,410 --> 04:57:02,690
So it's directly represents what's in the language right now. Those boundaries.

3582
04:57:03,270 --> 04:57:09,970
So when we officially open the item 23 or whatever item it is, we can go through the language,

3583
04:57:09,970 --> 04:57:19,190
but I'll just represent to you that for nine, we have named the limits of construction

3584
04:57:19,190 --> 04:57:29,690
to be the realignment from I-35 at Yarnton to the intersection of current FM-150 and FM-32-37.

3585
04:57:29,930 --> 04:57:35,110
The reason I did not take it just to 27-70s because I believe there are some shoulder improvements

3586
04:57:35,110 --> 04:57:39,110
and some widening and termings of what you did was to find the budget for it.

3587
04:57:40,210 --> 04:57:41,570
Well, no, I did not define the budget.

3588
04:57:41,570 --> 04:57:45,110
I mean, you know what I'm saying is you gave a dollar amount and you could put whatever

3589
04:57:45,110 --> 04:57:46,290
you can in there to.

3590
04:57:47,370 --> 04:57:56,110
Now what I did in addition to that was I specified that bond money would not be spent

3591
04:57:57,930 --> 04:58:05,090
between the intersection of FM150 and 3237 up to the intersection of current FM150

3592
04:58:05,090 --> 04:58:11,070
and Ranch Road 12. So there's that section, a rather long one, and it's, of course, that section

3593
04:58:11,070 --> 04:58:15,070
where you go through those water crossings and whatnot, but there's an old state on that.

3594
04:58:15,310 --> 04:58:23,110
Basically, for the majority part, the area can serve in the quarter-study, which is another segment of the right.

3595
04:58:23,250 --> 04:58:24,470
They have to have a little 50 consideration.

3596
04:58:24,830 --> 04:58:29,490
Well, you need to leave yourself flexible enough to change the road to meet the need in different locations.

3597
04:58:29,490 --> 04:58:47,890
Well, I think Judge the only place where you can consider your roads in this would be in this item, the safety improvement for the area of 3237, back to the Jimmelary of 2770 or lower your rent.

3598
04:58:48,970 --> 04:58:58,770
So the statement that Mark just made that not spending any time between those certain sections is the section that we've been getting a lot of concerns.

3599
04:58:58,770 --> 04:59:08,830
Right, so then no widening of shoulders or center turnings or anything is going to be spent on that section of roadway.

3600
04:59:09,530 --> 04:59:22,310
I wouldn't say, well, not out of the state of Texas, maybe with some urging from the county could maybe go in and, you know, kind of know maybe.

3601
04:59:22,310 --> 04:59:25,250
But we're state-of-the-art, that's very modern, if anything.

3602
04:59:25,410 --> 04:59:26,930
None of these public policies.

3603
04:59:27,350 --> 04:59:28,910
You know, none of these bond funds would take place.

3604
04:59:29,030 --> 04:59:29,870
I don't know about this.

3605
04:59:30,250 --> 04:59:32,470
I want to balance off the conversation with the record.

3606
04:59:34,790 --> 04:59:39,670
We've got a lot of social issues and lots of other people who, uh,

3607
04:59:40,430 --> 04:59:40,950
thank you.

3608
04:59:42,750 --> 04:59:44,350
I support these effort with the plan.

3609
04:59:45,170 --> 04:59:49,430
So let's just make this a, in no, no fault to go over here.

3610
04:59:49,430 --> 04:59:59,390
To make this a balanced conversation, as we're doing this, you usually don't hear those pieces and they'll be happy to send that correspondence.

3611
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:11,800
But it is all over the place. And we got a lot of work to do. But that's why it has never been considered a

3612
05:00:11,800 --> 05:00:15,540
considered as part of of this bond project.

3613
05:00:16,100 --> 05:00:16,680
God knows.

3614
05:00:17,400 --> 05:00:20,380
We also need to keep in mind the timeline.

3615
05:00:21,480 --> 05:00:24,800
Between today and writing on those improvements,

3616
05:00:25,720 --> 05:00:26,640
it's not tomorrow.

3617
05:00:27,240 --> 05:00:29,200
We're going to turn dirt tomorrow.

3618
05:00:29,940 --> 05:00:31,680
So it takes a long time to get those things.

3619
05:00:31,960 --> 05:00:35,020
And we need to be smart enough to try to say,

3620
05:00:35,320 --> 05:00:36,900
if the situation changes,

3621
05:00:38,420 --> 05:00:39,900
we don't plan ourselves into a coin.

3622
05:00:39,960 --> 05:00:41,100
That's what we're trying to do.

3623
05:00:44,020 --> 05:00:54,320
And we take in the Liberty Laws built this spreadsheet where we actually have flexibility, she can change it, I'm just taking each other sane and we're changing that as we go by no means.

3624
05:00:54,500 --> 05:00:59,600
I mean, it's in stone, but so currently I removed the first one, which was.

3625
05:00:59,900 --> 05:01:02,100
Commissioner Colle's comment on center point.

3626
05:01:02,100 --> 05:01:11,720
And we replaced that with McCarty F and 110 at 123 and State Highway at Military Intersection Improvement.

3627
05:01:12,060 --> 05:01:24,580
So just from we're just listening and now I did want to, if the court allows it, I did want to keep Hunter to some to 35 because that's in that hot air.

3628
05:01:24,720 --> 05:01:27,200
I believe we estimated a million and a half for that.

3629
05:01:27,200 --> 05:01:35,300
I was there, I mean, this is all part of what we generally, I'd like to take off the

3630
05:01:35,300 --> 05:01:39,440
three and a half, and I'd like to have a half million and a half there for Center

3631
05:01:39,440 --> 05:01:40,020
Point.

3632
05:01:40,680 --> 05:01:48,360
If we believe that's responsible, as it was originally perceived to be from Hunter to the

3633
05:01:49,540 --> 05:01:53,120
Interstate, to Interstate, let me be specific to Interstate 35.

3634
05:01:54,800 --> 05:02:02,320
And then I've been a million and a half from a party, and then, uh, the Ministry of

3635
05:02:02,320 --> 05:02:06,560
Industries Project, uh, our area of these all our projects.

3636
05:02:06,820 --> 05:02:07,320
Can we?

3637
05:02:07,540 --> 05:02:08,000
Can we?

3638
05:02:08,040 --> 05:02:15,520
Can we talk about, uh, from the, uh, cozy south to, uh, the county line there, changing

3639
05:02:15,520 --> 05:02:21,560
and working on that, because, uh, Mr. Flatne, you'll be happy to know that, if most of them,

3640
05:02:22,400 --> 05:02:26,780
over middle-class people at Hayes County that work in San Marcos will actually live in

3641
05:02:26,780 --> 05:02:27,560
Comel County.

3642
05:02:27,840 --> 05:02:33,400
The tremendous growth you're experiencing in northern Comel County or mainly Hayes County

3643
05:02:33,400 --> 05:02:38,600
and people that work here, but they live there because of all sorts of factors and so

3644
05:02:38,600 --> 05:02:42,260
they're the tragic on that, on that road day by day on Hunter Road.

3645
05:02:43,620 --> 05:02:47,740
So we already have the growth, now we're trying to figure out how to safely get them back

3646
05:02:51,360 --> 05:02:56,240
So there's one item I would like to move up into the name list is the railroad switching

3647
05:02:56,240 --> 05:02:57,320
in Kyle.

3648
05:02:58,900 --> 05:03:00,960
The other one is one to be named.

3649
05:03:02,800 --> 05:03:05,820
So I understand how you all created this question for Jones.

3650
05:03:06,200 --> 05:03:16,680
So when we're looking at the sample people, when you're looking at the yellow, that's basically

3651
05:03:16,680 --> 05:03:24,300
what y'all are proposing that we do as a bond, everything in yellow, right, is that right

3652
05:03:24,300 --> 05:03:31,800
more? And then you have, and then you have the blue, which are projects, potential projects

3653
05:03:31,800 --> 05:03:37,540
that we wish we had funding for today, but we don't, don't fill, we should fund today.

3654
05:03:38,620 --> 05:03:39,880
My reading is correctly.

3655
05:03:39,880 --> 05:03:45,720
a lower priority problem, yes, but they will officially, I guess we, so let me ask

3656
05:03:45,720 --> 05:03:52,320
you a different way. It's just proposal as it stands right now for basically $131

3657
05:03:52,320 --> 05:03:57,060
million transportation bond, or is it $453 million transportation? That would be up to the

3658
05:03:57,060 --> 05:04:01,160
wing, that would be up to the cool. I didn't know if you'll have to. Yeah, we are not. We're not.

3659
05:04:01,160 --> 05:04:05,840
Okay, I don't know if we're in our commission with you. Yeah, we've worked individually on our

3660
05:04:08,080 --> 05:04:11,440
Okay, I was just trying to make some reasons for this.

3661
05:04:11,500 --> 05:04:19,140
This is an open workshop, and the courts are more than willing or able to put whatever projects in whatever carrier they want.

3662
05:04:19,460 --> 05:04:22,060
Yeah, I'm sure you're currently at some things that we need to think about.

3663
05:04:22,120 --> 05:04:22,580
Yes, sure.

3664
05:04:23,200 --> 05:04:30,460
Well, I think I brought up a lot of good points, and I think you've brought up some really good points.

3665
05:04:30,460 --> 05:04:38,220
So, how can we, how can we talk through this to try to accommodate the best of our ability of both issues?

3666
05:04:38,580 --> 05:04:43,900
Let me ask Laura, Mike, and Alex, and probably opposite of that.

3667
05:04:43,920 --> 05:04:45,800
Are there any of our name projects?

3668
05:04:46,820 --> 05:04:48,640
Because we have potential hinders.

3669
05:04:49,340 --> 05:04:50,240
Isn't that?

3670
05:04:50,420 --> 05:04:51,680
By being a name project.

3671
05:04:52,640 --> 05:04:56,380
I know what I'm trying to get at, is there a possibility that there could be a delay on that project?

3672
05:04:56,380 --> 05:04:59,920
where we're going to have to be, we're going to have to wait to list completely finished and it could.

3673
05:05:01,580 --> 05:05:08,740
And we can't do any of these other unnamed projects till this inflate. Is there anything on our, the negative rules that we need to consider?

3674
05:05:09,180 --> 05:05:23,580
The only one that I would really worry about, if someone you already mentioned, and that once text not starts the EIS, that could be 24 months or 36 months. So if you had to spend all 11 million hours, which is what Mr. Kennedy said, you probably not going to get that done to her three years.

3675
05:05:23,580 --> 05:05:27,700
And then that keeps us from doing anything else for five or six years.

3676
05:05:27,920 --> 05:05:28,780
It's not the right one.

3677
05:05:29,040 --> 05:05:34,080
In two projects that we started this process, I mentioned to you the ability to leverage some

3678
05:05:34,080 --> 05:05:38,620
of your current partnership programs, and to the projects that are down below, particularly

3679
05:05:39,360 --> 05:05:44,360
the Robert S. White Extension in 2001, TechSouth is going to build up, say, have the money

3680
05:05:44,360 --> 05:05:44,840
in the back.

3681
05:05:45,440 --> 05:05:48,340
Well, if you can't get to those two or three years, I'm not going to stand here and tell you

3682
05:05:48,340 --> 05:05:49,600
that TechSouth is going to sell how the money.

3683
05:05:49,600 --> 05:05:54,260
That's why I'm very hesitant to leave those two projects off of the night and list, right?

3684
05:05:55,960 --> 05:06:04,820
But currently they are in, they would be in a bond if the court felt comfortable around this 130, 130.

3685
05:06:05,000 --> 05:06:05,760
But they're not in the night.

3686
05:06:06,600 --> 05:06:09,520
So, say we had the LiS, the line is 4.5 years.

3687
05:06:09,920 --> 05:06:12,420
Text us, ready to build those two rows.

3688
05:06:13,460 --> 05:06:16,620
And that we can't go further than that money goes away.

3689
05:06:16,980 --> 05:06:19,060
But what if you put those on the main list?

3690
05:06:19,060 --> 05:06:25,960
I mean that would be that would I I think maybe we don't get a hundred percent there

3691
05:06:25,960 --> 05:06:33,900
But I think we need to get as far down that half as as possible on on on making no solicitation

3692
05:06:33,900 --> 05:06:34,960
So put

3693
05:06:34,960 --> 05:06:39,840
And again you brought up a very good point commissioner about about number four and again

3694
05:06:39,840 --> 05:06:45,380
Let's make that clear that's better from yearington on I 35 that 2770

3695
05:06:45,380 --> 05:06:56,120
It is also part of an EI EIS and we might want to consider moving in it to the, I don't know what we need because I've always get a find in it or the discretionary.

3696
05:06:56,280 --> 05:07:03,800
Maybe in the bullpen or something else, but in comparison I don't know if you consider moving that into that list.

3697
05:07:04,620 --> 05:07:10,420
Well, one option you might consider, and again, let the lawyers work out the language that we've done with a couple other counties,

3698
05:07:11,120 --> 05:07:16,380
We created a right away bucket, a text on right away bucket because we didn't know when that text

3699
05:07:16,380 --> 05:07:20,860
our project was going to come. So we just set up a chunk of money and said, well, text

3700
05:07:20,860 --> 05:07:24,680
I may ask us next week, they may ask us two years from now, and it was a bucket there for

3701
05:07:24,680 --> 05:07:31,560
right away. So that might be it. Oh, that's a good, that's a good thought, Mike. And because it also

3702
05:07:31,560 --> 05:07:39,440
says on here and we'd have to get into the weeds and how this estimate came up, but it also says

3703
05:07:39,440 --> 05:07:47,540
you tell these, well, this is basically a graphite project, so I don't know exactly what we

3704
05:07:47,540 --> 05:07:53,760
mean by you tell these basically what we're hoping to accomplish as I understand the county's

3705
05:07:53,760 --> 05:08:02,860
goal is as the environmental processes moving forward that we have the ability to have

3706
05:08:02,860 --> 05:08:11,260
And running on a parallel track with the environmental, basic schematic, alignment in our

3707
05:08:11,260 --> 05:08:16,260
goal of dealing with the approaches right away before that opportunity is a commissioner

3708
05:08:16,260 --> 05:08:16,860
described.

3709
05:08:18,300 --> 05:08:24,080
It's gone and we can't really improve the bottleneck that is in downtown Kyle.

3710
05:08:24,100 --> 05:08:27,460
That is a huge part of our entire transportation network.

3711
05:08:29,760 --> 05:08:33,020
So, we're really talking about just right away, aren't we?

3712
05:08:33,560 --> 05:08:39,400
When those that did these estimates, the 11 million, I don't know if you worked on this one personally might put that.

3713
05:08:39,820 --> 05:08:43,500
The 118, we're basically just talking about right away, aren't we?

3714
05:08:43,740 --> 05:08:53,120
I think we had budget at about three million, three and a half million to the future engineering, which is one of your commitments in partnership, but the other seven or eight is all for right away.

3715
05:08:53,120 --> 05:08:58,420
Okay, so engineering being the actual design so the tech stock could come build it.

3716
05:08:58,640 --> 05:09:02,920
Okay, okay, okay, but I'll be honest with you, Commissioner, if you asked me to right now to sit down and put cash

3717
05:09:02,920 --> 05:09:08,180
hod together, I wouldn't put probably none of that 118 and 1st on sale because you're not going to spend it.

3718
05:09:09,520 --> 05:09:09,920
So,

3719
05:09:14,230 --> 05:09:15,290
okay, well,

3720
05:09:17,870 --> 05:09:21,010
that's, that's, those are some ideas about the bucket.

3721
05:09:21,670 --> 05:09:26,950
What I would suggest is maybe we throw out some, a bunch of different things and then we recess for, you know,

3722
05:09:26,950 --> 05:09:33,790
15 minutes or so, 20 minutes, let our council talk about that and then kind of come back and just keep.

3723
05:09:33,970 --> 05:09:36,910
It's going to take some time I think to get this right, but it's worth getting it.

3724
05:09:36,910 --> 05:09:37,790
It's worth getting it right.

3725
05:09:37,790 --> 05:09:38,690
I've got one shot here.

3726
05:09:38,830 --> 05:09:39,550
Yes, that's right.

3727
05:09:42,010 --> 05:09:42,890
That's right.

3728
05:09:43,610 --> 05:09:44,710
There's somewhere you're ranging.

3729
05:09:44,950 --> 05:09:49,390
I would do as far as if we feel like we're going to try to do our best.

3730
05:09:49,390 --> 05:09:58,270
stay around the 1.30-1.35 which you know where I think I am and see people not in their

3731
05:09:58,270 --> 05:09:58,910
That's it.

3732
05:09:59,230 --> 05:09:59,590
Thank you.

3733
05:10:00,300 --> 05:10:09,360
You know, do some rear-braging like you've already done a little bit. I'd like to talk to our county road department about posi.

3734
05:10:09,500 --> 05:10:21,240
What do you want to break around 5-10 minutes and then must come back and maybe make suggestions on what you would like to be in the name to projects and what you would be there's anything you want to pull out of the name projects.

3735
05:10:21,240 --> 05:10:28,500
And then a little bit more of a specificity on the safety mobility, I think would be nice.

3736
05:10:29,240 --> 05:10:36,260
For example, as I know right now, I know there's projects, safety projects, for example,

3737
05:10:37,580 --> 05:10:40,660
and Commissioner Wisnett's precinct.

3738
05:10:41,000 --> 05:10:43,480
But they're not really late out here.

3739
05:10:44,680 --> 05:10:49,080
You know, I'm afraid people won't understand that that's part of the part of the ball.

3740
05:10:49,080 --> 05:10:57,480
And again, that was a tip of my particular, you know, so I suggest 15, I mean, because this is a conversation.

3741
05:10:58,720 --> 05:11:13,660
Let me just interject and say that based on what Ron and I heard the court saying, up to now, we have had Laura name all projects that we think the commissioners wanted named.

3742
05:11:14,260 --> 05:11:18,040
And the current total on it is 93,300,000.

3743
05:11:18,880 --> 05:11:24,760
This is the addition of 80, the U.P. line.

3744
05:11:25,900 --> 05:11:29,300
We've taken center point and knocked it down to 1.5.

3745
05:11:29,420 --> 05:11:30,680
Commissioner Perrier request.

3746
05:11:31,820 --> 05:11:33,480
CR266 has been out of bed.

3747
05:11:33,800 --> 05:11:34,800
I'm probably going to ask you to add,

3748
05:11:34,840 --> 05:11:39,720
if in one 2001 gap in the Robert-like bridge right away.

3749
05:11:40,680 --> 05:11:42,140
Truck by a pass right away.

3750
05:11:44,320 --> 05:11:52,160
Okay, and the winners know safety, winners know safety improvements and the just just list them all

3751
05:11:52,160 --> 05:11:58,920
And the visitor store 23 25 again, this is going back to the to the trying to describe

3752
05:11:59,440 --> 05:12:03,200
to the best of our ability, you know, where

3753
05:12:03,900 --> 05:12:10,160
Oh, I constituent a constituent and the far Western part of the Wimbledy Bally

3754
05:12:12,120 --> 05:12:16,480
I think needs to know that there's a safety improvement at one of the busiest intersections

3755
05:12:16,480 --> 05:12:18,100
on the 23 to 25.

3756
05:12:20,860 --> 05:12:26,460
And that doesn't, there's no impediment there too, as we describe rightfully so the potential

3757
05:12:29,120 --> 05:12:33,380
of the embankment of the document, for example, with Mr. Lincoln talk about those are easy,

3758
05:12:33,620 --> 05:12:34,840
basic safety projects.

3759
05:12:35,820 --> 05:12:40,940
Commissioner of that safety mobility bucket. We tried to get as many of the safety projects as it's recorded

3760
05:12:40,940 --> 05:12:45,100
And if I spelled out they're in here like an 80 and some of you know you're winning the bill

3761
05:12:45,100 --> 05:12:48,820
This was this was for those projects to keep coming up every time we turn around

3762
05:12:48,820 --> 05:12:51,560
Whatever because of the school there or something else

3763
05:12:51,560 --> 05:12:55,140
You know recently when we had to put the traffic light up over at 1 10 and 1 23

3764
05:12:55,140 --> 05:12:57,320
Let's take a 10 minute break

3765
05:12:57,320 --> 05:13:02,140
We'll try to reconcile those last comment. Yeah, let's take a 10 minute break

3766
05:13:03,610 --> 05:13:09,350
Session now, trying to grow the lowest hanging fruit to start off with, as we work

3767
05:13:09,350 --> 05:13:12,070
through the complexity of this very important proposition,

3768
05:13:14,470 --> 05:13:16,470
the limitations that we talked

3769
05:13:16,470 --> 05:13:32,590
about and we are talking about for the most part of any capacity expansion mark would be,

3770
05:13:34,130 --> 05:13:44,130
to ensure that clinical savings would not be used for capacity issues.

3771
05:13:46,150 --> 05:13:50,760
This question for you more.

3772
05:13:50,800 --> 05:13:51,380
Yes, listen.

3773
05:13:51,720 --> 05:13:51,980
Okay.

3774
05:13:53,260 --> 05:14:00,220
Is having a language with Julie's assistance that limits, again,

3775
05:14:02,580 --> 05:14:15,500
FM-150 at the very minimum from 3237, FM-32372, Rancho-12, M-150. Furthermore, I'd like

3776
05:14:15,500 --> 05:14:20,960
to add, if the courts agreeable, making those same limits,

3777
05:14:24,260 --> 05:14:30,180
Rancho-12 in 2325 and 3237 on capacity

3778
05:14:30,180 --> 05:14:37,040
increases none. To me, that does not mean you can't do a turn-lane project or a shoulder

3779
05:14:37,040 --> 05:14:43,340
project. We're talking about adding lanes basically. It's clear as I can state that

3780
05:14:43,340 --> 05:14:43,600
truly.

3781
05:14:46,000 --> 05:14:54,300
I would feel very comfortable making that developing restrictive language and

3782
05:14:54,300 --> 05:14:59,380
bond that takes that by law.

3783
05:15:00,750 --> 05:15:10,070
In our bond language off the table, could we draw something like that, of that that looks like that and describes that properly.

3784
05:15:10,990 --> 05:15:16,990
So, when we open item 23 is it?

3785
05:15:18,690 --> 05:15:24,070
We'll have the luxury of looking at the bond language, the proposition language.

3786
05:15:24,970 --> 05:15:28,870
You have the long, the court knows at least enough at this point to know that you have long language

3787
05:15:28,870 --> 05:15:29,790
in short language.

3788
05:15:30,150 --> 05:15:32,910
All right, there's the language that goes on the ballot and there's the proposition

3789
05:15:32,910 --> 05:15:38,150
language that will be available to voters at the polling place, but will not be expressed

3790
05:15:38,150 --> 05:15:38,810
on the ballot.

3791
05:15:39,910 --> 05:15:42,050
They say more or less the same thing.

3792
05:15:42,770 --> 05:15:49,470
The problem with trying to get into a detailed description of what you're going to do in

3793
05:15:49,470 --> 05:15:55,950
the proposition language is that it gets lengthy and confusing usually.

3794
05:15:55,950 --> 05:16:01,610
Well, it can be, I mean, if Julie and I are writing it, well, I'm sure it would be abundantly clear.

3795
05:16:02,850 --> 05:16:04,110
But at least in our own opinions.

3796
05:16:07,430 --> 05:16:15,990
The other thing though that don't forget the other contract with the voters is going to be whatever we disseminate in support of the proposition.

3797
05:16:17,270 --> 05:16:22,610
In other words, in support of providing factual information, it shows what we're going to do.

3798
05:16:22,610 --> 05:16:31,070
In 2008, we had a three-fold brochure, that three-fold brochure also obligated us and limited us in certain ways.

3799
05:16:32,030 --> 05:16:41,130
And so it may be that if you want to get into context and specifically how you're going to build a roadway or improve a roadway,

3800
05:16:42,190 --> 05:16:47,610
then maybe that's the more appropriate place to do it, not in the proposition language itself.

3801
05:16:48,090 --> 05:16:50,070
It's something to think about at least.

3802
05:16:54,100 --> 05:16:57,780
But you can write that up if you struck a two by this court.

3803
05:16:58,180 --> 05:17:02,640
If the court is going to do so, I would be on the board.

3804
05:17:02,640 --> 05:17:02,900
Just one.

3805
05:17:02,900 --> 05:17:03,760
Just one, make sure.

3806
05:17:04,640 --> 05:17:07,480
I would remind you that you do work for all of us.

3807
05:17:09,260 --> 05:17:09,420
Yes.

3808
05:17:09,540 --> 05:17:10,220
I said the court.

3809
05:17:10,600 --> 05:17:11,040
Mind you.

3810
05:17:11,760 --> 05:17:12,620
So did I judge you.

3811
05:17:13,120 --> 05:17:15,840
Well, I guess the move is for a little bit.

3812
05:17:15,860 --> 05:17:18,820
I'll ask Mike and Lauren Allen.

3813
05:17:18,820 --> 05:17:21,960
You know, I've had a chance to overlook the update in the list.

3814
05:17:22,740 --> 05:17:32,520
Is there anything that you all would recommend that would be put on there that's not on there or anything on there that you would like us to consider not have you know.

3815
05:17:32,600 --> 05:17:45,660
I think that's a very good list and I point out that what we did one of the big items we took was the in law and corporate to language was the bucket at the bottom we you know, we had three separate ones and we had that seven and a half million.

3816
05:17:45,660 --> 05:17:51,260
And we'd lumped all that in now into 225, so non-motorized and all that's in one place.

3817
05:17:51,720 --> 05:17:55,200
I think all the other projects that you all have suggested can have shortened terms.

3818
05:17:55,600 --> 05:17:57,680
Probably all make sense and could be done.

3819
05:17:58,040 --> 05:18:00,360
That's certainly time for you.

3820
05:18:00,620 --> 05:18:05,360
So we have the 225, and then we still have the safety mobility attention.

3821
05:18:05,660 --> 05:18:07,040
No, we'd lump all that together.

3822
05:18:07,420 --> 05:18:08,700
We'd lump that together also.

3823
05:18:09,180 --> 05:18:14,420
We took the three that were 5 million each, lumped together with the 75 and the 125.

3824
05:18:15,380 --> 05:18:25,760
And it is county wide, which can only be divided by precinct, so that is right down the 225.

3825
05:18:26,040 --> 05:18:37,240
Again, this can be used for environmental mitigation, conservation, non-motorized transportation, drainage, water, water crossings.

3826
05:18:38,360 --> 05:18:48,600
And that is the five, that was on our original list, I'll bucket the three-fives, and then the 75-fives.

3827
05:18:48,640 --> 05:18:49,640
Yes, or add it to that.

3828
05:18:49,820 --> 05:18:56,020
And again, as Mr. Kennedy said, how do you describe it to the voters, but right now I'm kind of going to talk about what's going on.

3829
05:18:56,220 --> 05:18:56,820
There is certainly.

3830
05:18:56,920 --> 05:18:57,800
So there is a...

3831
05:18:57,800 --> 05:18:57,860
There's a...

3832
05:18:57,860 --> 05:18:58,600
What's taken on?

3833
05:18:58,980 --> 05:19:00,920
Because if you have the 10, it's 32.

3834
05:19:01,680 --> 05:19:06,660
Now the 10 for safety mobility is still done at the bottom once you decide all name.

3835
05:19:06,660 --> 05:19:10,480
If you decide on that number, they're 100 and I can't read it.

3836
05:19:11,380 --> 05:19:19,520
1-15-615 and you decide if you want to do 135, then you can figure out how you

3837
05:19:19,520 --> 05:19:21,800
spend the other 20 on the rest of the stuff down below.

3838
05:19:22,100 --> 05:19:28,320
So the courts comfortable with the 1-13-35 figure,

3839
05:19:30,630 --> 05:19:33,770
would it address the issues that we all

3840
05:19:33,770 --> 05:19:44,050
to have by naming all of these in the second tier of yellow,

3841
05:19:46,130 --> 05:19:48,590
the Zadadruss, the Zadadruss

3842
05:19:48,590 --> 05:19:53,010
and he concerns, like, I believe that up to my colleagues with all three months or in there now.

3843
05:19:54,350 --> 05:19:59,290
I would remind the court that we had bomb accounts for coming today and said we had approximately

3844
05:19:59,290 --> 05:19:59,950
Two-and-a-three.

3845
05:20:00,700 --> 05:20:12,600
The bill of the bill of the bill. That's currently not half to spend $250 million dollars. We try to get the things that we think are important.

3846
05:20:13,020 --> 05:20:19,840
Somewhere under that. So now we're standing at 1.15, you tell me 1.35 plus 1.6.

3847
05:20:19,840 --> 05:20:20,720
One, two, one, six.

3848
05:20:25,360 --> 05:20:27,840
So three, four, six, four, six, four, six,

3849
05:20:30,620 --> 05:20:53,240
four, six, four, six, four, yeah, so we've got to be very careful now that we understand the prioritization of these projects, then, you know, near near to my heart is, to support the thing that Adam and I have talked to his typical repair and replacement of low water crossings with more durable low water crossings, so that we can make those, that saves us money in the long run.

3850
05:20:53,240 --> 05:20:58,140
And the drainage projects, those save us money because the road is not inundated.

3851
05:20:58,620 --> 05:21:00,840
So a lot of those things deal with water quality.

3852
05:21:01,960 --> 05:21:05,200
And so those things are really near bridge replacements.

3853
05:21:05,860 --> 05:21:09,220
We got lots of bridges that need to work be worked on in the place.

3854
05:21:09,800 --> 05:21:13,320
And so I would prioritize that much higher personally.

3855
05:21:14,220 --> 05:21:15,100
Well, I did some of that.

3856
05:21:15,100 --> 05:21:18,720
Well, Judge, the name list is no list of priority.

3857
05:21:19,840 --> 05:21:20,200
That's right.

3858
05:21:20,200 --> 05:21:20,540
Yeah.

3859
05:21:21,600 --> 05:21:24,200
There's just the night list, there's no priority on those.

3860
05:21:25,480 --> 05:21:27,960
Well, so he's going to choose which one to do first.

3861
05:21:28,380 --> 05:21:28,400
The court.

3862
05:21:28,580 --> 05:21:30,280
I mean, this court should do this.

3863
05:21:30,380 --> 05:21:31,220
I think they passed.

3864
05:21:31,520 --> 05:21:36,540
A special bridge, bridge replacing, if it's part of the offline system, that's your, but

3865
05:21:36,540 --> 05:21:39,800
one of your better opportunities to try to coordinate that with text.au.

3866
05:21:40,860 --> 05:21:46,960
And also, we got Mr. Campo here who can, who can leverage that money to our best advantage

3867
05:21:46,960 --> 05:21:50,280
up in Austin, which we have done in the past.

3868
05:21:50,480 --> 05:21:51,720
Which we have done, and I think...

3869
05:21:51,720 --> 05:21:52,460
Thank you, Mr. Jones.

3870
05:21:52,580 --> 05:21:53,200
I appreciate it.

3871
05:21:53,260 --> 05:21:54,180
And I think that...

3872
05:21:54,180 --> 05:21:54,920
No, I'm serious.

3873
05:21:56,120 --> 05:21:57,080
I'm not a military.

3874
05:21:57,380 --> 05:21:57,580
I don't know.

3875
05:21:57,640 --> 05:21:57,880
I don't know, York.

3876
05:21:58,160 --> 05:21:58,760
I know York.

3877
05:21:58,760 --> 05:22:00,140
I just like to start to quote it.

3878
05:22:00,300 --> 05:22:01,720
I think that's smart money.

3879
05:22:01,780 --> 05:22:03,240
That's a good way to use money.

3880
05:22:03,660 --> 05:22:03,960
Yes, sir.

3881
05:22:04,020 --> 05:22:08,200
You know, it has things ready to build and getting all the software done.

3882
05:22:08,760 --> 05:22:11,820
That's what it is important sometimes, is the hard work.

3883
05:22:13,200 --> 05:22:16,940
Because that gets things built in a timely manner, so that we can maintain that

3884
05:22:18,640 --> 05:22:20,620
that's the best service to our community.

3885
05:22:21,360 --> 05:22:24,960
So, you know what, in fact, these are the ones that are the most important for your

3886
05:22:24,960 --> 05:22:27,120
precincts in countywide.

3887
05:22:29,320 --> 05:22:33,080
So why, again, I'm trying to, I'm trying to think this through.

3888
05:22:35,040 --> 05:22:45,240
Why if the court is comfortable around the figure, and I am of this 131-135 figure, what

3889
05:22:45,240 --> 05:22:50,240
Commissioner Jones and Commissioner Wisnet and staff presented to the court as a starting point today.

3890
05:22:51,480 --> 05:22:53,540
And what I'm describing as the yellow boxes.

3891
05:22:55,260 --> 05:23:03,600
The blow of the line with the exception of the general generalised buckets of drainage,

3892
05:23:04,400 --> 05:23:06,720
I can buy conservation, bridge replacement.

3893
05:23:07,440 --> 05:23:07,660
Yeah.

3894
05:23:07,940 --> 05:23:13,320
With the exception of that and with the exception of some of the modifications that have been made,

3895
05:23:13,320 --> 05:23:19,160
For example, like the modification, I asked the court to consider of a set of limiting

3896
05:23:19,160 --> 05:23:26,040
center point, two of my smaller scope and adding a cardee on that scope, and I believe

3897
05:23:26,040 --> 05:23:29,200
combistering needs to be made some adjustments as well.

3898
05:23:30,100 --> 05:23:41,400
Why wouldn't we name basically this one thirty-one, thirty-two, twenty-two address?

3899
05:23:41,400 --> 05:23:44,700
And I would hope not that would address the very real concern you brought up.

3900
05:23:45,040 --> 05:23:47,540
And I'm not disagreeing with that.

3901
05:23:48,140 --> 05:23:50,240
There's something else I think we ought to think about though.

3902
05:23:50,540 --> 05:23:54,800
If we leave it at the, what was the number before we did that 115, 115 set?

3903
05:23:54,800 --> 05:23:59,720
We still had that last, and there, we don't know, over the, you know, this by and

3904
05:23:59,720 --> 05:24:02,900
I'm next to you, next three years, what text I was going to have available.

3905
05:24:03,540 --> 05:24:09,040
And I don't want to have, but it'd be, I think it'd be advantageous to us if we had the

3906
05:24:09,040 --> 05:24:15,060
15 million dollars or so that we didn't they if those projects came available over the next three years of this bond

3907
05:24:15,060 --> 05:24:19,080
To be able to protect it to partner with text out on some of these because there's a lot of these

3908
05:24:19,720 --> 05:24:22,420
I know in my precinct there's a lot that are on this list

3909
05:24:22,900 --> 05:24:28,200
That we would would be nice to have been on there, but we couldn't get any if we don't have a partnership with text out at this time

3910
05:24:29,480 --> 05:24:34,400
Beyond beyond what is listed we'd give us more flexibility beyond what is listed in yellow

3911
05:24:35,000 --> 05:24:42,660
And then at 30 to 35, 500 tons a state highway 21 on a south, that's a major project.

3912
05:24:42,880 --> 05:24:49,500
The tech stocks got in the crosshairs, I mean because that's becoming major thoroughfare for

3913
05:24:49,500 --> 05:24:55,780
the techsets. And it's going to need to be improved all the way from 1,23, all the way to 1,23.

3914
05:24:56,160 --> 05:24:59,900
You know, highway 21, you know, techsets ever had funds available for that.

3915
05:25:04,360 --> 05:25:25,580
What would Commissioner Jones's referring to take two seconds? Whether it's Campo at 80-20, or text.new 80-20 safety program, if you created the bucket that was text.partnership, and all of a sudden, money came out of the sky and it came to you and said, well, we've got the 80 percent, do you have your 20? You'd have that flexibility. I think that's what you were suggesting, Commissioner Jones.

3916
05:25:25,580 --> 05:25:29,920
I just don't want to, I would like some flexibilities, but that's what I was trying to get to.

3917
05:25:29,960 --> 05:25:32,740
Don't tire yourself down and paint yourself into a corner.

3918
05:25:34,100 --> 05:25:41,520
But that's easy for me, so right now, because all my projects in the yellow are in the, in the black and the end of the day in the list.

3919
05:25:43,260 --> 05:25:49,380
But that's just the other side. That's something, but you can do, you can do a few different things.

3920
05:25:49,800 --> 05:25:52,820
You can, you can, first and foremost, you can.

3921
05:25:54,520 --> 05:26:00,740
You can have another bond and two,

3922
05:26:05,240 --> 05:26:07,920
you could use what has been identified here and the

3923
05:26:07,920 --> 05:26:13,840
money that you're using here, many have been on the state system as you're negotiating

3924
05:26:13,840 --> 05:26:21,160
with the state and how dollars will be allocated to different types of projects across the

3925
05:26:21,160 --> 05:26:21,520
county.

3926
05:26:21,520 --> 05:26:23,280
But where would you put this that up there?

3927
05:26:23,420 --> 05:26:26,700
Would that be in your open mind, your yellow mind down there?

3928
05:26:27,380 --> 05:26:30,180
Is it a 10 million down there for that big part of that?

3929
05:26:31,220 --> 05:26:34,880
I guess we're, we're, we're, there's no right wrong to this.

3930
05:26:35,100 --> 05:26:37,620
What we're, we're, and, and, and,

3931
05:26:37,820 --> 05:26:42,000
Commissioner Dunes certainly has a high level of the man in many areas,

3932
05:26:42,200 --> 05:26:47,580
but the, I guess what, what I think a strategy I would take judge is basically

3933
05:26:47,580 --> 05:26:56,780
us adopting and identifying the yellow boxes that are better identified here with the modifications

3934
05:26:56,780 --> 05:27:00,740
that have been made as our bond.

3935
05:27:01,760 --> 05:27:15,560
And then if things come up as we discussed and we can address those in different ways,

3936
05:27:19,930 --> 05:27:20,490
I would

3937
05:27:20,490 --> 05:27:31,630
I'd like to ask for some, as we ponder on some less, and that's why I do address some clarification as I look at that list.

3938
05:27:35,180 --> 05:27:38,520
So the line code you just have broken out and half to represent.

3939
05:27:39,660 --> 05:27:43,460
The two precinct boundaries, but really that's 3 million.

3940
05:27:43,500 --> 05:27:48,100
That's what we believe we need to make the improvements that we've committed to make.

3941
05:27:48,100 --> 05:27:52,340
people out on the Hillier Law and Kill Area, so that's good.

3942
05:27:54,620 --> 05:27:59,140
If you win a dollar's win just for a second, not take my commission head off kind of

3943
05:27:59,140 --> 05:28:01,160
from more of a regional head on.

3944
05:28:02,400 --> 05:28:08,820
The 21, as you mentioned, Commissioner, that there's a representative directly by you

3945
05:28:08,820 --> 05:28:15,260
and Commissioner Eonsby, the $3.5 million dollars, more

3946
05:28:20,440 --> 05:28:22,700
and more work needs to be done there.

3947
05:28:24,740 --> 05:28:31,420
What are we hoping to accomplish with the three and a half that is an important

3948
05:28:31,420 --> 05:28:35,700
court or to the entire county, to the region to be frank with you?

3949
05:28:36,000 --> 05:28:38,620
Our original estimate commissioner from the answer there for that.

3950
05:28:39,200 --> 05:28:44,660
I could, was around $4,4 million for right away and we couldn't figure out how to do that.

3951
05:28:44,840 --> 05:28:48,800
So in the meeting that Commissioner Jones and Commissioner Wiesenton, I had with text

3952
05:28:48,800 --> 05:28:54,660
thought we talked about protective purchases that is text out against the start working on

3953
05:28:54,660 --> 05:29:00,320
21, subdivision shows up, we know we need 250 feet of right away, you have some money

3954
05:29:00,320 --> 05:29:01,420
to go buy it.

3955
05:29:01,980 --> 05:29:05,160
So it would be kind of pre-need for the more protective purchase because it's not.

3956
05:29:05,280 --> 05:29:09,880
You need, like I said, between, I think it was 15 million we had lower 12 or 15 for all

3957
05:29:09,880 --> 05:29:11,080
of 21, right away.

3958
05:29:11,380 --> 05:29:15,700
Did they give you, they've been the district, did the district give you the indication that

3959
05:29:15,700 --> 05:29:22,900
would perhaps be willing to, in house work on, to begin work on an environmental document?

3960
05:29:23,320 --> 05:29:28,560
Well, they, they have a project underway right now to build a super-two in some areas, actually,

3961
05:29:28,620 --> 05:29:31,960
add some passing lanes and some things like that, so they're starting those, which are,

3962
05:29:32,100 --> 05:29:33,300
I mean, maybe it's safety issues.

3963
05:29:33,340 --> 05:29:36,720
That's coming out of the Bastrop, all this is something that part of it is within the

3964
05:29:36,720 --> 05:29:37,520
Bastrop district.

3965
05:29:38,960 --> 05:29:42,840
But eventually, the answer is yes, they know that's on there, that's on there to do list.

3966
05:29:47,800 --> 05:29:51,520
I think it's essential, we protect that award.

3967
05:29:52,440 --> 05:29:57,400
Now we are all loads of transportation, frankly, from Sam Marcus to Travis County.

3968
05:29:57,920 --> 05:29:59,660
The 183-80-183.

3969
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:19,980
And this was a testimony today of people wanting us to concentrate on the eastern side of county. Making that a safe order for you. And let me tell you something, when 35 is blocked. Two things take place one day all the way down line killed or they go down 21.

3970
05:30:22,600 --> 05:30:24,220
And not going far.

3971
05:30:24,400 --> 05:30:26,200
Think it down dog because you know when you meet

3972
05:30:26,200 --> 05:30:26,460
you need custer.

3973
05:30:26,620 --> 05:30:27,360
I don't know the days.

3974
05:30:29,520 --> 05:30:31,640
Well twenty one also a commissioner

3975
05:30:31,640 --> 05:30:33,780
Johnny's original head offers a great opportunity

3976
05:30:33,780 --> 05:30:35,780
for something other than just cars.

3977
05:30:36,240 --> 05:30:38,440
It's like opportunity long term for transit.

3978
05:30:41,400 --> 05:30:41,980
Ok.

3979
05:30:43,400 --> 05:30:48,620
So have we, have we, have we fought and

3980
05:30:48,620 --> 05:30:59,500
Consider teasing out some of the safety money into more of the detailed description, or we come to go where that is.

3981
05:30:59,500 --> 05:31:00,500
What do you have in mind?

3982
05:31:05,100 --> 05:31:08,780
Turn my turn lanes and yes or yes or yes or yes or yes.

3983
05:31:09,060 --> 05:31:17,960
Well, my thought about that the light out of the list is as long as it's a county wide, I think it provides a small opportunity.

3984
05:31:18,900 --> 05:31:25,380
It's roughly going to be 7% or 8% of what the total of what we're considered.

3985
05:31:27,960 --> 05:31:35,360
We do have the 22 and a half million that is generally, but those are categories that we all

3986
05:31:35,360 --> 05:31:36,040
can identify.

3987
05:31:36,360 --> 05:31:39,400
I know I can present for some need for that.

3988
05:31:39,580 --> 05:31:47,160
I think the most recent happenings in 2015 showed a lot of need for attention to our lower

3989
05:31:47,160 --> 05:31:53,380
crossings and those types of safety considerations, so, and that may be low water crossing

3990
05:31:53,380 --> 05:31:59,640
indicators, I mean, it's a safety addition. If you can't rebuild it, you can't get

3991
05:31:59,640 --> 05:32:04,680
an envelope program where we need to get it protected towards the safer for the system.

3992
05:32:05,640 --> 05:32:10,900
Have y'all spoken to the school districts about their future plans and how they impact the

3993
05:32:10,900 --> 05:32:16,280
we have. Judge, I have talked to the dripping springs and I'm a school district and that's

3994
05:32:16,280 --> 05:32:21,760
the reason the Darden Hill widening is something that's pretty top on my list because

3995
05:32:21,760 --> 05:32:27,420
there's a guy with the transportation board we're going to have to make some improvements to

3996
05:32:27,420 --> 05:32:32,400
one portion of that between the next year because the opening of the middle elementary school

3997
05:32:32,400 --> 05:32:40,160
soil and rancher it, but across from that same intersection, in the next, the current growth rate

3998
05:32:40,160 --> 05:32:45,680
that we heard from the super intimate sunny evening, they'll be planning to build a second

3999
05:32:45,680 --> 05:32:53,180
high school in Drippick, brings into the school district in July 5th year, and they own 125 acres

4000
05:32:53,180 --> 05:33:02,380
across from the adjacent south. It makes it pretty prominent and along with that, the planning for the

4001
05:33:02,380 --> 05:33:09,820
if it wasn't it was that it's very expensive for us to build a road after they build a

4002
05:33:09,820 --> 05:33:17,380
school. I prefer to coordinate so that we are all saying it's like the jail issue fixing that

4003
05:33:17,380 --> 05:33:22,400
road out there in front of the jail is a critical issue with the developer that projects.

4004
05:33:22,960 --> 05:33:26,980
So let's try to think outside the box and say what are our needs going to be in five

4005
05:33:26,980 --> 05:33:32,900
years called the schools. I mean, because that's all sorts of problems, you know.

4006
05:33:33,160 --> 05:33:37,940
I can only speak for grouping spring and event school history, but I have met with their staff,

4007
05:33:38,260 --> 05:33:44,000
their superintendent, and we've already had discussions about this circumstance, and I've always

4008
05:33:44,000 --> 05:33:49,880
found them generally to be cooperative with planning for that. It worked pretty well with the

4009
05:33:49,880 --> 05:33:54,880
mill elementary school that we had to widen, saw your rent road to accommodate that, and school

4010
05:33:54,880 --> 05:34:01,640
care of it in there in their bond issue so well they see lying there will be finished

4011
05:34:02,380 --> 05:34:07,920
depends well I don't know where will it ever be finished that's two schools out there

4012
05:34:07,920 --> 05:34:12,180
yeah that's what I mean it's just I'm so glad to find me in there you know and then the

4013
05:34:12,180 --> 05:34:16,380
967 improvements the Commissioner Jones has or accommodate the schools that are already

4014
05:34:16,380 --> 05:34:18,880
there in the new high schools coming out by the bus barn

4015
05:34:24,220 --> 05:34:25,580
well it's important as we go

4016
05:34:25,580 --> 05:34:32,580
alone at this point and make good decisions because we have to live with this.

4017
05:34:33,280 --> 05:34:34,620
I'm proud of all this here.

4018
05:34:37,900 --> 05:34:41,400
This estimate, I understand this estimate to be best

4019
05:34:41,400 --> 05:34:51,960
for the digital future design of a section from the area to 2070 and blind way.

4020
05:34:52,400 --> 05:34:55,680
That would be estimated that would be needed. A lot of that's right away.

4021
05:34:55,680 --> 05:34:57,580
You guys say problem on your mind as well.

4022
05:34:57,680 --> 05:34:58,240
No problem.

4023
05:34:58,420 --> 05:34:59,500
Can we have a look at the comments?

4024
05:35:02,780 --> 05:35:05,080
Can you print that out?

4025
05:35:22,480 --> 05:35:25,040
I'm glad I know you ought to get blind too.

4026
05:35:34,450 --> 05:35:41,630
We've made some assumptions on that project, as Mr. Wisnet talked about. We're hoping to get some of that right away donated.

4027
05:35:42,050 --> 05:35:43,830
So we may not have to spend all eight or nine.

4028
05:35:44,070 --> 05:35:50,850
Well, I suggest that all those submissions that pop on the 21, it's going to increase the value of their property.

4029
05:35:51,250 --> 05:36:00,030
So we should get them to donate as much as we can because it's going to be their best interest to have donation there.

4030
05:36:00,030 --> 05:36:05,070
It's like for schools and that sort of thing. We get them to plan that.

4031
05:36:05,070 --> 05:36:05,810
That's what we're going to do.

4032
05:36:05,830 --> 05:36:07,190
That's what we're going to do. That's what we're going to do.

4033
05:36:07,190 --> 05:36:09,210
Yeah, I think.

4034
05:36:09,310 --> 05:36:13,430
Right. You did that. That darn yellow to this list.

4035
05:36:14,490 --> 05:36:16,490
What do you think the ladies are going to do on this?

4036
05:36:16,490 --> 05:36:16,890
It is.

4037
05:36:17,430 --> 05:36:19,470
You think the ladies are going to let those some money?

4038
05:36:19,990 --> 05:36:22,850
I don't think so, Judge. I think, you know, the last session was,

4039
05:36:23,190 --> 05:36:26,170
Prop 7, which asked, I think they're going to sit back.

4040
05:36:26,430 --> 05:36:29,130
You know, that money starts becoming available in spring of 2018.

4041
05:36:29,130 --> 05:36:29,890
2018.

4042
05:36:30,410 --> 05:36:33,530
Yeah, so I think they're going to sit back in this conversation, but this is my personal

4043
05:36:33,530 --> 05:36:33,830
opinion.

4044
05:36:33,830 --> 05:36:37,770
They just watch until that money comes in to see if there's really any, you know, of course

4045
05:36:37,770 --> 05:36:43,590
the federal bill passed, like Texas is going to get an extra two to $400 million of

4046
05:36:43,590 --> 05:36:44,250
a federal bill.

4047
05:36:44,610 --> 05:36:49,430
I'd be surprised if we see any of these money, so that's a drop in the book.

4048
05:36:50,150 --> 05:36:50,810
In this bill.

4049
05:36:51,290 --> 05:36:51,550
That's right.

4050
05:36:52,670 --> 05:36:57,310
Coach Colleak just helped me realize that the dormant hill, which I spoke about, is not on

4051
05:36:57,310 --> 05:36:57,730
that way.

4052
05:36:57,850 --> 05:36:58,250
That's right.

4053
05:36:58,250 --> 05:37:02,750
I had to say, we need to get it on our way.

4054
05:37:04,510 --> 05:37:06,430
It's on that second one.

4055
05:37:06,670 --> 05:37:07,510
The one thing here.

4056
05:37:09,910 --> 05:37:12,050
So we need to add that to get it up above the line.

4057
05:37:12,050 --> 05:37:12,590
There it is.

4058
05:37:13,130 --> 05:37:14,010
Top five.

4059
05:37:14,390 --> 05:37:16,250
There's a four right there.

4060
05:37:17,390 --> 05:37:18,010
Above names.

4061
05:37:18,310 --> 05:37:19,490
We had to go down.

4062
05:37:19,630 --> 05:37:19,810
Go down.

4063
05:37:19,950 --> 05:37:20,090
Go down.

4064
05:37:20,230 --> 05:37:20,650
Go down.

4065
05:37:22,070 --> 05:37:22,530
Let's see.

4066
05:37:22,650 --> 05:37:23,030
It's changing.

4067
05:37:26,040 --> 05:37:26,520
It's starting to heal.

4068
05:37:26,720 --> 05:37:27,140
Right at the bottom.

4069
05:37:32,940 --> 05:37:50,620
So what is not in the, what was handed out in the additional discretionary project list, the total about a little of 131 million, what is left, what is left that is not in that list?

4070
05:37:50,620 --> 05:37:58,080
The 10 totem of the 10 transcript, yes, and after him 2,000.

4071
05:38:03,490 --> 05:38:08,430
So why would it we, why wouldn't, I mean, I'm not.

4072
05:38:08,430 --> 05:38:13,590
Why would it I have at least no question, okay, I think?

4073
05:38:13,770 --> 05:38:14,990
I think

4074
05:38:17,680 --> 05:38:19,080
there's less confusion.

4075
05:38:23,030 --> 05:38:27,090
If you moved us up and then put $10 million in safety mobility.

4076
05:38:31,810 --> 05:38:35,710
I mean it would be a bucket as the other buckets are, so you could

4077
05:38:35,710 --> 05:38:41,170
incite capability would be being with those nice same uh, yes sir, I got you, sir.

4078
05:38:41,170 --> 05:38:42,990
on the board tax line.

4079
05:38:45,830 --> 05:38:48,290
Seizing mobility with tax zone.

4080
05:38:48,930 --> 05:38:50,230
Or the county right.

4081
05:38:51,210 --> 05:38:51,690
R. K.

4082
05:38:55,990 --> 05:38:57,250
So what is the financing?

4083
05:39:00,430 --> 05:39:02,370
About the time, long gets back, with change.

4084
05:39:04,130 --> 05:39:07,490
As a walk in judicial issue, I don't interpret that.

4085
05:39:07,530 --> 05:39:12,490
Would that be the way to it in there just as that we could do that on a county road system?

4086
05:39:12,490 --> 05:39:20,870
I would understand it to be on all two, if you will, the county road system and the state system.

4087
05:39:24,230 --> 05:39:28,390
I would believe you're selected to say, building you can cover either state or county system.

4088
05:39:28,810 --> 05:39:31,590
Personally, that's what I would, you know what I was doing.

4089
05:39:33,350 --> 05:39:34,010
What, uh,

4090
05:39:46,340 --> 05:39:49,840
text up with me to stay. That's what I was talking about.

4091
05:39:49,840 --> 05:39:50,820
Last hot check, everyone.

4092
05:39:54,800 --> 05:39:56,360
What do you say?

4093
05:39:56,360 --> 05:39:57,320
Slash me.

4094
05:40:00,720 --> 05:40:05,440
So, can somebody print that out and we can go through that now that we've heard of it?

4095
05:40:05,720 --> 05:40:08,020
We just want to print. Okay. Thank you.

4096
05:40:08,200 --> 05:40:10,700
Janice, would you tell mom to look at the numbers?

4097
05:40:10,700 --> 05:40:12,240
The numbers aren't the same, Mom.

4098
05:40:13,580 --> 05:40:14,000
On the right.

4099
05:40:22,900 --> 05:40:25,180
Yeah, it

4100
05:40:32,540 --> 05:40:35,560
all be name. Not this point.

4101
05:40:41,060 --> 05:40:44,200
Well, to use a Christopher Collins holistic order.

4102
05:40:46,320 --> 05:40:49,220
Well, what we need to do is to look at this,

4103
05:40:49,320 --> 05:40:52,940
holistically about what's going to benefit our counter-wad situation.

4104
05:40:53,820 --> 05:40:56,880
So we need to be very careful not to make sure it's all a counter-wad.

4105
05:40:56,880 --> 05:40:57,280
So we need to be very careful not to make sure it's all a counter-wad.

4106
05:40:58,160 --> 05:40:58,720
So we need to keep the whole thing in the morning.

4107
05:40:59,880 --> 05:41:04,260
So we need to keep the whole thing in the morning.

4108
05:41:05,020 --> 05:41:06,480
That's where we can leverage the money.

4109
05:41:07,080 --> 05:41:07,860
That's the money.

4110
05:41:08,000 --> 05:41:09,580
That's what my body figure is.

4111
05:41:09,640 --> 05:41:13,160
The less you ride down there, the less restrictive you're going to be.

4112
05:41:13,160 --> 05:41:16,740
And if you see that, things will change.

4113
05:41:17,040 --> 05:41:23,340
No one has growth occurs or is it going to change?

4114
05:41:28,980 --> 05:41:37,060
So, as councilor, as it's written, or I know we're not on that core exactly yet, but as

4115
05:41:37,060 --> 05:41:41,720
we're talking to this as

4116
05:41:44,180 --> 05:41:50,480
this is proposed in judgment perhaps now would be a time to pull

4117
05:41:50,480 --> 05:41:58,260
up bottom 24s well so we would that be appropriate to pull up the out-of-mouth.

4118
05:41:59,260 --> 05:42:07,620
Sure, we're talking about pull-of-bond pack, we're likely going to need to bravely

4119
05:42:07,620 --> 05:42:12,420
table at item, you could open it for a time, but I think Julie Houston, everyone have to

4120
05:42:12,420 --> 05:42:22,120
go away and shop in the pencil on the draft before the court can vote on it. So you can open

4121
05:42:22,120 --> 05:42:27,380
it now and then we can just table the item and you can start your budget workshop while

4122
05:42:27,380 --> 05:42:34,180
we work on it and we can come back after or yeah. And we could recess until tomorrow if we

4123
05:42:34,180 --> 05:42:41,420
to. Yeah, because it's at this session, we continue to have a continuous session.

4124
05:42:42,840 --> 05:42:46,400
That's enough of breakfast. We're here at the Courts Pledge.

4125
05:42:47,100 --> 05:42:53,080
And see understand this for the public that we are under a time situation.

4126
05:42:53,680 --> 05:42:59,120
This means the last court session, you can actually call the election of the law.

4127
05:43:01,200 --> 05:43:02,120
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

4128
05:43:02,120 --> 05:43:02,240
I'm going to go.

4129
05:43:02,740 --> 05:43:03,160
Dean.

4130
05:43:03,420 --> 05:43:04,280
Did you get that?

4131
05:43:04,460 --> 05:43:04,980
Sorry, no.

4132
05:43:05,400 --> 05:43:06,300
Okay, she's gone.

4133
05:43:06,540 --> 05:43:07,140
She's got that up there.

4134
05:43:07,160 --> 05:43:07,920
How was the album?

4135
05:43:08,240 --> 05:43:08,500
Yeah.

4136
05:43:08,880 --> 05:43:09,300
Lone up.

4137
05:43:09,720 --> 05:43:10,620
They got it.

4138
05:43:10,620 --> 05:43:12,760
I heard her and her and her and her.

4139
05:43:14,520 --> 05:43:16,700
Yeah, he's been through business about 13 million.

4140
05:43:21,420 --> 05:43:22,260
I'm sorry.

4141
05:43:22,260 --> 05:43:22,960
Say, you're alive.

4142
05:43:26,380 --> 05:43:29,500
There we can follow what it takes to recycle all this.

4143
05:43:30,740 --> 05:43:34,240
The top signal with the peak on it.

4144
05:43:41,820 --> 05:43:44,420
Okay, you want to table this and let you go.

4145
05:43:44,660 --> 05:43:48,440
No, no, we haven't even opened the item yet, but I'm saying that.

4146
05:43:48,440 --> 05:43:49,020
We'll let them go.

4147
05:43:49,880 --> 05:43:54,140
Well, you can discuss the draft that you have in front of you now.

4148
05:43:55,320 --> 05:44:00,740
We can talk about whether and how much you'd like to name specifically in the proposition language.

4149
05:44:00,740 --> 05:44:05,740
I think there's a legal, you're supposed to keep us at a trouble to make sure that we've

4150
05:44:05,740 --> 05:44:10,220
listed it and listed it because there's two parts of it, there's the ballot itself

4151
05:44:10,220 --> 05:44:12,620
and then there's the explanation to the proposition.

4152
05:44:13,400 --> 05:44:13,640
Correct.

4153
05:44:14,760 --> 05:44:16,820
Either method would be legal.

4154
05:44:18,220 --> 05:44:23,760
There are obviously some high points and low points to either method.

4155
05:44:23,760 --> 05:44:30,860
And it might be worth discussing before Julie and I go away and work on writing it up.

4156
05:44:33,020 --> 05:44:34,980
So it's just real.

4157
05:44:34,980 --> 05:44:39,820
So if we are constantly resessing and I'd like to know because I have to kind of

4158
05:44:39,820 --> 05:44:42,020
sort of doctor a point and I'm not.

4159
05:44:42,480 --> 05:44:43,460
It's doctor cold.

4160
05:44:43,820 --> 05:44:45,180
It's just like you take your ass for you.

4161
05:44:46,800 --> 05:44:48,420
So that's why we take her.

4162
05:44:48,420 --> 05:44:48,860
That's why we take her.

4163
05:44:48,860 --> 05:44:51,140
I just want to know where we approach her.

4164
05:44:51,140 --> 05:44:55,500
I think we can get it done if we just all agree to stay a little later than we should.

4165
05:44:56,520 --> 05:44:57,280
Either way, it's fine.

4166
05:44:57,300 --> 05:44:58,260
I'm a wicked texture.

4167
05:44:58,480 --> 05:44:59,320
I'm a wicked texture.

4168
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:26,540
Let's say. I can stay here all night. This is a, we can take a break. We can take a break. We can take a break and we can take a break. We can take a break and we can take a break. We can really, we can really, I do it. Frankly, I do it every day here. We can, we can, and we can not, we could not disap before clock strikes midnight, united easily. A lot sooner, I believe. So, well, we'll be all right. I don't think that's good, sir.

4169
05:45:26,540 --> 05:45:28,240
By the way, it's fine with me.

4170
05:45:28,780 --> 05:45:31,540
Okay, so let's keep moving forward now.

4171
05:45:33,080 --> 05:45:34,200
What's the next step, Casord?

4172
05:45:35,100 --> 05:45:38,160
I would suggest if the workshop is over in a sense,

4173
05:45:38,420 --> 05:45:41,660
that it is that we go ahead and open the next item.

4174
05:45:42,420 --> 05:45:44,520
Well, along the second before you close the workshop,

4175
05:45:44,780 --> 05:45:46,860
it doesn't mean say we decided to change something

4176
05:45:46,860 --> 05:45:48,600
unless we still do that, right?

4177
05:45:48,820 --> 05:45:49,820
Well, we're just going to change it.

4178
05:45:49,820 --> 05:45:52,440
Well, why don't you just, you can always re-open the workshop.

4179
05:45:52,760 --> 05:45:53,580
We're going to close this here.

4180
05:45:53,700 --> 05:45:55,100
Let's close it for now.

4181
05:45:56,220 --> 05:45:57,640
And let's get up.

4182
05:45:58,520 --> 05:45:59,720
I think we added it.

4183
05:46:00,180 --> 05:46:01,560
That's out of number 25.

4184
05:46:02,740 --> 05:46:04,520
We're going to put it on the table.

4185
05:46:06,020 --> 05:46:08,280
And we'll pick it up again after we do the other.

4186
05:46:08,800 --> 05:46:10,020
If we need to.

4187
05:46:10,160 --> 05:46:10,420
Okay.

4188
05:46:10,700 --> 05:46:11,120
Here it is.

4189
05:46:11,360 --> 05:46:12,400
Number 23.

4190
05:46:14,300 --> 05:46:18,220
Discussion possible action to prove an order by the Commission's Court of Hayes County Texas.

4191
05:46:18,760 --> 05:46:21,180
Calling a bond election to be held in Hayes County Texas.

4192
05:46:21,620 --> 05:46:24,200
Making provisions for the conduct of the election.

4193
05:46:24,200 --> 05:46:29,120
Thanking provision for the conduct of a joint election with various political subdivisions,

4194
05:46:29,440 --> 05:46:32,220
resolving other matters incident and related to such election.

4195
05:46:32,880 --> 05:46:37,540
Work shop items, 2425 and 26 will be held prior to the opening of this item.

4196
05:46:38,100 --> 05:46:44,640
You follow that, that's posted, so now it is open, so now that you and Julie need to go away and

4197
05:46:44,640 --> 05:46:51,780
no, commiserate or what do you know, we would like to hear a feedback report on some of these issues we've already been touching on.

4198
05:46:51,780 --> 05:47:03,060
but you have on the dice, I don't 23, back up, yeah, and item that is draft, I have since

4199
05:47:03,060 --> 05:47:21,760
providing you with backup plugged in the number we got from the criminal justice and public

4200
05:47:21,760 --> 05:47:26,660
There were 106 million 400,000 correct.

4201
05:47:26,660 --> 05:47:27,680
Since the time was?

4202
05:47:28,140 --> 05:47:28,180
Yeah.

4203
05:47:29,260 --> 05:47:34,280
Other than that, I believe Proposition 1 has drafted would stay more or less the same.

4204
05:47:34,420 --> 05:47:35,780
Unless the court has feedback.

4205
05:47:37,180 --> 05:47:45,600
And this was just to be cleared because there's two pieces of this which pieces in the booth

4206
05:47:45,600 --> 05:47:51,820
when you're voting in which pieces part of the ballot of the legal.

4207
05:47:51,820 --> 05:48:15,740
Well, for and against over here, so the proposition language, this is the long language you're looking at this would be available, but not on the ballot, you go to page 3, you'll see the official ballot language, which of course looks the same and I've plugged in the same number under Proposition number one.

4208
05:48:18,750 --> 05:48:29,290
the longer proposition line, which is used to go to the legal processes of the internal

4209
05:48:29,290 --> 05:48:29,950
office.

4210
05:48:31,050 --> 05:48:35,590
That's what the language of women voters will put in the newspaper is this proposition.

4211
05:48:37,130 --> 05:48:39,650
Typically the long line, which is the long addition.

4212
05:48:39,830 --> 05:48:42,630
And this is available for voters to have to hold in place.

4213
05:48:42,750 --> 05:48:45,570
As a follows and prior to the following places as well.

4214
05:48:45,570 --> 05:48:57,310
In addition, as I referenced, the county may throw some materials on the county website, may decide to disseminate

4215
05:48:57,310 --> 05:49:05,650
factual information about this, so the voters informed, and I don't think any of that's decided yet until, of course,

4216
05:49:05,770 --> 05:49:09,730
there's a call for election by the court in first place, but that's something that we'll follow.

4217
05:49:09,730 --> 05:49:16,970
What I was thinking of asking is that the bond package for the jail, the law enforcement and the number of ones that are be separated.

4218
05:49:18,090 --> 05:49:21,370
But they're really continuous, continuous, continuous ways to the one or another.

4219
05:49:21,530 --> 05:49:24,770
So if you do one and don't do the others, you miss the point.

4220
05:49:25,230 --> 05:49:29,710
And so I think that that should be one bond package in my mind.

4221
05:49:30,650 --> 05:49:32,590
Yes, that's how we're proposing it.

4222
05:49:32,630 --> 05:49:32,770
Okay.

4223
05:49:33,190 --> 05:49:33,810
I agree.

4224
05:49:38,630 --> 05:49:42,970
So, that really takes us to, unless you have more feedback and takes us to propose it.

4225
05:49:43,010 --> 05:49:55,820
Well, I want to start with the, what is limiting, legally limiting and restricting the county.

4226
05:49:57,540 --> 05:49:59,520
It is this longer.

4227
05:50:01,170 --> 05:50:10,430
More detailed description of the bond proposition that is the real legally binding pieces of that, not necessarily what is on the ballot, right?

4228
05:50:11,330 --> 05:50:12,110
Okay. Okay. Thank you.

4229
05:50:12,230 --> 05:50:14,930
The proposition is the basis for the ballot.

4230
05:50:15,610 --> 05:50:18,690
The ballot is an affirmation to the ballot of the proposition, basically.

4231
05:50:19,310 --> 05:50:23,410
So, if you really want to know what the proposition is about, it's like any other proposition.

4232
05:50:23,410 --> 05:50:28,090
Now, you'd be the big legs, but I

4233
05:50:31,770 --> 05:50:36,430
have a real problem with tricky ballots where a yes is

4234
05:50:36,430 --> 05:50:40,270
of no one or no as a yes, so we need to make it as clear as possible.

4235
05:50:41,570 --> 05:50:48,690
But people are voting on, and they know that it's going to be under proposition 2, Judge

4236
05:50:48,690 --> 05:50:57,490
I always, as opposed to a no or a negative, I only see a classification or a, or, how do you say an exclusion?

4237
05:50:58,610 --> 05:51:05,050
And that was that one particular portion of roadway that we know needs considerable more study.

4238
05:51:05,170 --> 05:51:05,530
Yeah.

4239
05:51:05,530 --> 05:51:06,030
Public input?

4240
05:51:06,210 --> 05:51:06,470
Yeah.

4241
05:51:09,680 --> 05:51:12,840
Well, it's critical that we have certain things in there.

4242
05:51:13,080 --> 05:51:15,820
We do the tell the voter what we're going to spend the money for.

4243
05:51:15,820 --> 05:51:16,240
agree?

4244
05:51:19,370 --> 05:51:26,270
And I think that legally by doing this we are entitled to sell them entrances so

4245
05:51:26,270 --> 05:51:30,430
we don't sell all the bonds at one time that's just so given.

4246
05:51:30,710 --> 05:51:32,690
Councilor I, I'm sorry Judge.

4247
05:51:33,270 --> 05:51:33,790
I have a fine to go.

4248
05:51:34,830 --> 05:51:45,250
I'm in court, more importantly, I'm comfortable with the way proposition one is proposed

4249
05:51:45,250 --> 05:51:56,280
it seems to be cleared directly on and covers the all the different projects that we have

4250
05:51:56,280 --> 05:52:06,360
identified through our task force on 3% of the number was 106 or 4 correct 106 million

4251
05:52:06,360 --> 05:52:07,360
$400,000.

4252
05:52:10,080 --> 05:52:14,400
So as we go to propositions, too,

4253
05:52:14,560 --> 05:52:15,980
you'll be the tricky one.

4254
05:52:16,360 --> 05:52:17,880
Proposition, too.

4255
05:52:19,640 --> 05:52:22,360
And we talked about 133 million, is that right?

4256
05:52:23,780 --> 05:52:25,040
What was it total about?

4257
05:52:25,520 --> 05:52:27,120
$33,5.

4258
05:52:29,150 --> 05:52:30,930
$33,5.

4259
05:52:31,110 --> 05:52:32,750
OK, $13,5.

4260
05:52:34,690 --> 05:52:37,010
So maybe this, maybe this helps.

4261
05:52:37,010 --> 05:52:43,650
So, I think it's very important for us to be specific on

4262
05:52:45,950 --> 05:52:47,890
proposition two, what's legally

4263
05:52:47,890 --> 05:52:55,510
binding us, and describing what we're doing and what we're not doing.

4264
05:52:57,530 --> 05:52:58,170
And then,

4265
05:53:01,260 --> 05:53:10,180
for example, on the ballot language, I don't think that is that important to say

4266
05:53:10,180 --> 05:53:20,820
making something up, we can't have added capacity on retro to 12 from the junction to 12 and 150, for example.

4267
05:53:21,320 --> 05:53:24,700
I don't think that's really important on proposition to ballot language.

4268
05:53:24,920 --> 05:53:35,180
What I think I would like us to try to do is the best of our ability on proposition number to ballot language is

4269
05:53:35,180 --> 05:53:48,180
And then the legal piece of proposition is to identify and try to reflect our lists to the best of our ability.

4270
05:53:48,560 --> 05:53:52,920
Because I always, this is going to embarrass her.

4271
05:53:53,060 --> 05:53:58,700
I always try to use my wife and my mother and father and family as a good measure of stuff.

4272
05:53:58,700 --> 05:54:00,360
You always try to use that too.

4273
05:54:00,780 --> 05:54:01,800
Yeah, yeah.

4274
05:54:01,800 --> 05:54:02,800
Oh, come and touch.

4275
05:54:03,380 --> 05:54:04,860
The, um,

4276
05:54:07,480 --> 05:54:10,680
my wife, for example, she drops off my, she's going to be dropping off my daughter

4277
05:54:10,680 --> 05:54:17,700
on 23, 25, uh, Fisher area, uh, starting this September because of the jacket as well.

4278
05:54:18,320 --> 05:54:19,360
So Metro Spoon.

4279
05:54:19,820 --> 05:54:19,900
Yes.

4280
05:54:20,160 --> 05:54:20,620
Well, yes.

4281
05:54:20,660 --> 05:54:22,280
She's getting that old touch position on.

4282
05:54:23,080 --> 05:54:24,380
I mean, you're getting really old.

4283
05:54:24,380 --> 05:54:24,700
Right.

4284
05:54:25,640 --> 05:54:48,160
The, I want her and people like her to, when they go into the public location, I want them to know that, hey, yeah, that's something that's important to me as something I use every day and that's something that's a problem particularly during their school drop-off is that area.

4285
05:54:48,160 --> 05:54:55,280
And from my mother, she goes, she goes to Sam's all the time, okay, from where she lives,

4286
05:54:56,140 --> 05:54:59,940
from Will Creek, McCarty, Rode, Improvements, pretty important, so my like my mother.

4287
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:10,220
The other who does the stage during the target academy, JC Penny, Sam's area of St. Markets, as far as she drives anywhere.

4288
05:55:11,380 --> 05:55:17,960
So again, not to embarrassed my own family members, but that is, you know, she's going to the box.

4289
05:55:18,280 --> 05:55:21,840
She's going to the party in space and preservation. That's important.

4290
05:55:21,840 --> 05:55:27,720
it never comes. That's there. And of course, I'm speaking using these examples. It's important

4291
05:55:27,720 --> 05:55:32,800
to a lot of people we all represent in different ways. I think that's important to try to

4292
05:55:32,800 --> 05:55:36,880
try to list that as much what they know that that's there because nobody understands all the

4293
05:55:36,880 --> 05:55:41,880
stuff that you're talking about. And all the things out there and all the educational pieces,

4294
05:55:42,000 --> 05:55:47,420
all the outreach that we do, all the public meetings that we do, everything. Let's face it. We've

4295
05:55:47,420 --> 05:55:54,780
done this for a long time, been all for a long time. You are still catching a small fraction

4296
05:55:54,780 --> 05:56:02,520
of the voting public when you're going out with those programs in those series.

4297
05:56:03,600 --> 05:56:08,440
So what you're saying is you want to thank the person who doesn't have a better investment interest

4298
05:56:08,440 --> 05:56:14,300
than that. That's one way of putting it just, but I want it to be clear that they understand what they're voting on.

4299
05:56:15,760 --> 05:56:26,480
So I think it's realistic to put the bro who says we listed all here in that what's on the voting ballot.

4300
05:56:27,280 --> 05:56:28,840
Now you don't have to put all the restricted blame.

4301
05:56:29,200 --> 05:56:32,300
Where that really means something is going to happen.

4302
05:56:32,880 --> 05:56:33,900
Show them what we're going to do.

4303
05:56:34,100 --> 05:56:35,440
I don't think you can do that.

4304
05:56:35,780 --> 05:56:36,640
You can't put it down.

4305
05:56:36,980 --> 05:56:37,320
A fortune.

4306
05:56:37,760 --> 05:56:40,360
Well, I think you put it somewhere where they can see it.

4307
05:56:41,220 --> 05:56:42,460
In your case of fortune.

4308
05:56:42,460 --> 05:56:49,340
But what I'm talking about, Judge, is a matter of what we do in education, we're still

4309
05:56:49,340 --> 05:56:53,860
only going to catch a crisis of, we'll be, we would be lucky to catch up

4310
05:56:53,860 --> 05:56:56,960
of majority of the population with that.

4311
05:56:57,580 --> 05:57:07,640
I will person who is going into the box to vote for President United States to be able

4312
05:57:07,640 --> 05:57:10,920
without seeing any of our educational pieces.

4313
05:57:11,440 --> 05:57:22,740
To be able to intelligently look at Proposition 2 as Proposition 1 is written pretty simple, pretty straight forward.

4314
05:57:23,040 --> 05:57:29,280
If I go for this, I'm going to, we're going to get a co-located 911 emergency center,

4315
05:57:29,720 --> 05:57:33,520
a wall portion center, a train facility, an interlocal facility.

4316
05:57:34,000 --> 05:57:38,640
That's pretty, that's pretty benevolent, I mean that's a complicated project, but that's pretty straight forward.

4317
05:57:38,640 --> 05:57:43,460
So I can understand whether they believe there's a need for that or not.

4318
05:57:44,660 --> 05:57:46,640
I'd like to prop to to be the same thing.

4319
05:57:46,680 --> 05:57:51,080
That governor who's the overwhelming amount of others going into the box, going to both

4320
05:57:51,080 --> 05:57:57,260
the president, going to both groups, maybe some local candidates that they know and believe

4321
05:57:57,260 --> 05:58:05,480
them, can walk in, see these propositions and go, yeah, if I vote for this, I'm voting

4322
05:58:05,480 --> 05:58:13,080
for these, these road improvements and that makes people can understand that, people can relate

4323
05:58:13,080 --> 05:58:18,300
to that. I drive to an undiary date, that's going to be on the Rommol 2325, Rommol

4324
05:58:19,920 --> 05:58:26,200
2225, Rommol in 1967, those safety improvements, Rommol in this road, this is part of my day of

4325
05:58:26,200 --> 05:58:31,080
luck, is what I need to do. I think it's a good idea considering the level of death accounting

4326
05:58:31,080 --> 05:58:35,140
will be hidden. Let me make that decision as a boat. That's what we're asking them to do.

4327
05:58:35,480 --> 05:58:41,720
We're asking them to make that decision and that's a lot of it's important that we listen to much as possible so that they understand

4328
05:58:43,480 --> 05:58:50,440
But what they're what they're voting for again, we don't need all the restrictive language because we can capture about this

4329
05:58:50,440 --> 05:58:52,100
They saw their stuff

4330
05:58:53,080 --> 05:58:54,040
That's just

4331
05:58:54,040 --> 05:58:57,860
One opinion, but at the court agrees we can ask Julie and Martin. I'm start working

4332
05:58:58,420 --> 05:59:03,620
Something won't so there's someone who writes a week later devotional goes out worldwide

4333
05:59:03,620 --> 05:59:09,380
I can tell you that the average American reason between the fifth and the seventh grade level,

4334
05:59:10,140 --> 05:59:15,340
the polysyllabic words are an affella to most people, and they won't look them up,

4335
05:59:15,660 --> 05:59:19,360
they've just assumed that they don't, you're trying to add something.

4336
05:59:20,260 --> 05:59:22,520
So the language has to be a very clear.

4337
05:59:24,580 --> 05:59:31,200
I've really said, and that's our job and our duty is playing over trying to do.

4338
05:59:32,260 --> 05:59:38,340
I think I tend to agree with Commissioner Colleen generally because I think all the efforts

4339
05:59:38,340 --> 05:59:43,880
we're making here this afternoon is absolutely toward public transparency and I think we're

4340
05:59:43,880 --> 05:59:50,500
hoping that by doing things like about scripture, the information we're going to put out,

4341
05:59:50,660 --> 05:59:55,640
a consolidated or comprehensive list are the things we need to help people understand what they're

4342
05:59:55,640 --> 05:59:58,640
voting for it. And to understand that.

4343
06:00:00,140 --> 06:00:09,140
This is a long way from a wish list. It's really a list of needs and in the day of it, then it has helped us identify.

4344
06:00:09,540 --> 06:00:21,240
A lot of things we've been, I haven't spent recently, unfortunately, by probably a 70% majority of the projects in pre-sync four of what I've talked directly with citizens about and including.

4345
06:00:26,520 --> 06:00:35,640
So I would like that to be on, just to my suggestion, I would like that to be on the proposition

4346
06:00:35,640 --> 06:00:42,240
too, language that would be in the ballot box where people can see this list that has been made,

4347
06:00:42,640 --> 06:00:49,320
and it doesn't seem to be overwhelming and overbearing so they fully understand what they're voting on.

4348
06:00:50,380 --> 06:00:51,020
Second,

4349
06:00:53,530 --> 06:00:59,050
I would like to restrict the use of these dollars.

4350
06:01:00,990 --> 06:01:04,610
Commissioner Jones, I know, and this is your precinct, so it's not appropriate for me.

4351
06:01:05,570 --> 06:01:17,370
The FM150, what is listed on here as as realignment to FM150 from my 35 variant to FM150 at FM3237.

4352
06:01:17,370 --> 06:01:22,370
You have to go down below. I'm sorry for the limitation you have to go down below.

4353
06:01:23,550 --> 06:01:26,070
Yeah, I know a whole lot's like a mark. I'm looking at the list.

4354
06:01:26,870 --> 06:01:32,390
So I know what the intentions of the county is. The intentions of the county has been described

4355
06:01:32,390 --> 06:01:37,730
by the commissioners and through our planning efforts is for us to preserve a court

4356
06:01:37,730 --> 06:01:48,570
work from Yerington on I-35 to 2770 and to also have design work in there to run parallel

4357
06:01:48,570 --> 06:01:53,190
to an environmental document in which the state is, that's a present.

4358
06:01:53,490 --> 06:01:54,190
It is doing right.

4359
06:01:56,170 --> 06:02:04,110
It is further our intention to, at this point time, the bus of our building within this budget,

4360
06:02:04,110 --> 06:02:16,790
to add shoulders and safety improvements from 2777 to 3237 on this list.

4361
06:02:17,250 --> 06:02:22,430
Okay, so why are we continuing to go down 32 to 3237?

4362
06:02:23,070 --> 06:02:24,810
It's in the bond language, currently.

4363
06:02:25,170 --> 06:02:26,410
I guess that's your point, right?

4364
06:02:27,010 --> 06:02:31,950
I just want all this to be clear and everybody be on the same page of exactly what we're

4365
06:02:31,950 --> 06:02:34,510
I'm trying to accomplish it.

4366
06:02:34,730 --> 06:02:38,690
Let me state my understanding and maybe that's where we can get

4367
06:02:38,690 --> 06:02:39,350
clarity.

4368
06:02:39,950 --> 06:02:43,850
My understanding was that there would be a real

4369
06:02:43,850 --> 06:02:51,430
element of FN-150 between I-35 at Yorrenton and 2770.

4370
06:02:51,730 --> 06:02:57,130
We connect back to current FN-150 and that there would be

4371
06:02:57,130 --> 06:03:01,330
some safety improvements between that point or at intersex

4372
06:03:01,330 --> 06:03:07,090
And the intersection of 3237 and current F and 150. So that's that's close one

4373
06:03:07,090 --> 06:03:12,830
But the real climate study has always been stated as from the Interstate 35 at York in two

4374
06:03:13,270 --> 06:03:21,650
Royals home if in 150 at or beyond a Royale ranch is the way I think what he's trying to do is

4375
06:03:21,650 --> 06:03:29,310
I think what Mark tried to do was combine two sets of projects and one limit all and maybe I didn't get the money that is the projects combined

4376
06:03:30,110 --> 06:03:32,810
There's a little bit of money in there for the two intersections.

4377
06:03:33,250 --> 06:03:36,110
Well, you're going to so work that out for you, commissioners.

4378
06:03:36,290 --> 06:03:43,250
To go to the precincts and sell the program, that's what they have told us, they need.

4379
06:03:44,090 --> 06:03:47,590
And then we have to think, what if it doesn't pass?

4380
06:03:48,730 --> 06:03:51,850
We still have the same problems that we've got right now.

4381
06:03:52,150 --> 06:03:53,810
Now, let me give you some good statistics.

4382
06:04:03,850 --> 06:04:09,710
If you would, if you would, if you'd give me the opportunity to go back to the specifics of this because it's important.

4383
06:04:13,320 --> 06:04:21,320
The county at this point time has no interest in, for example, in purchasing right away from 2770 to 3237 on F150.

4384
06:04:21,320 --> 06:04:24,780
The only thing we were looking at, it's not on this, it's not on this, it did not make the

4385
06:04:24,780 --> 06:04:27,700
name list was to do shoulders and turn lights where needed.

4386
06:04:28,280 --> 06:04:31,720
It's on future projects, but it's not on this model package.

4387
06:04:33,100 --> 06:04:40,840
So, but as written right now, as described here, and as written, that would be a possibility.

4388
06:04:43,840 --> 06:04:51,840
And that's what I'm trying to tighten up, and make sure, now, Commissioner, if you believe

4389
06:04:51,840 --> 06:04:54,180
which I agree to.

4390
06:04:54,860 --> 06:04:58,540
It's a shoulder shoulder need to be put on that section and one for example.

4391
06:04:58,540 --> 06:04:59,840
That's what we're hoping for.

4392
06:05:00,000 --> 06:05:07,100
We hope the state says we need to do that. If you all can do the engineering exam, we've got that 10 million dollar with that might be something that we use for that.

4393
06:05:07,540 --> 06:05:13,280
But we don't, we want to restrict ourselves to any type of expansion for right away.

4394
06:05:14,920 --> 06:05:20,320
We can buy the right away for a candidate safely, but we don't, you understand what I'm trying to get on.

4395
06:05:21,580 --> 06:05:23,960
You can say where it doesn't increase capacity.

4396
06:05:24,500 --> 06:05:27,360
So that language can be put in the proposition.

4397
06:05:27,360 --> 06:05:30,660
Well, let's hear from Laura, she has a comment on this, though.

4398
06:05:30,740 --> 06:05:31,320
I think it's important.

4399
06:05:31,860 --> 06:05:38,380
It's just wanted to clarify on the 3237 because of the average road is west of 2770.

4400
06:05:39,080 --> 06:05:45,220
We have to call that realignment back to 3237 when we do that document, even though we don't

4401
06:05:45,220 --> 06:05:51,380
have intentions of improving in that document with the realignment from 3237 to where we

4402
06:05:51,380 --> 06:05:52,040
can decide on.

4403
06:05:52,140 --> 06:05:55,420
In which document are we referencing Laura?

4404
06:05:55,420 --> 06:06:00,560
Well, in the realignment project, so when we put plans together, we'll have to...

4405
06:06:00,560 --> 06:06:03,360
We talked about design here, whereas we put it in the design place.

4406
06:06:05,520 --> 06:06:06,400
So, so...

4407
06:06:06,400 --> 06:06:13,820
So, the CSJ is right now in the partnership program for the realignment, including all the way to 3237, even though...

4408
06:06:14,400 --> 06:06:16,320
So, why wouldn't we...

4409
06:06:16,320 --> 06:06:20,420
So, we can get down to describe that, though, as a Royal...

4410
06:06:20,420 --> 06:06:21,760
What's the real deal?

4411
06:06:22,600 --> 06:06:28,240
As a lawyer, and in limit that, she makes it very good point, but one of the environmental

4412
06:06:28,240 --> 06:06:30,560
documents are part of this bond problem.

4413
06:06:31,660 --> 06:06:36,700
But if we are going to work on design, she's saying, putting the layman's turn doesn't make

4414
06:06:36,700 --> 06:06:37,060
sense.

4415
06:06:37,320 --> 06:06:45,740
Stop the 20 cents, you've got to tie in, so anything West, we're exactly trying to remember.

4416
06:06:45,740 --> 06:06:48,840
probably just what about mild further down the road.

4417
06:06:52,700 --> 06:06:57,680
So what if we stopped, we made a description of the stop there.

4418
06:06:58,000 --> 06:07:05,000
Again, we want to take any concerns that the county can take money from this bond.

4419
06:07:06,360 --> 06:07:15,540
and expand west of the Royal Ranch up 1.50 to 3.37 into a formal and divided possible.

4420
06:07:15,680 --> 06:07:18,440
I don't understand, just like can't increase that capacity.

4421
06:07:20,160 --> 06:07:22,820
Yes, yes, we're saying the same thing.

4422
06:07:22,920 --> 06:07:25,820
I want our lawyers to work on the best way to do that,

4423
06:07:25,880 --> 06:07:28,500
but I want to make sure we're all on the same page.

4424
06:07:28,500 --> 06:07:33,700
And it's important that we get that clear.

4425
06:07:35,060 --> 06:07:39,820
And then I would like the same type of language to apply to

4426
06:07:39,820 --> 06:07:42,180
337 to 150 and 12.

4427
06:07:42,900 --> 06:07:46,000
And I would like the same language applied to 32 and

4428
06:07:46,000 --> 06:08:02,020
12, the junction all the way on Rancho 12 to 250 in Rancho 12 and on Ethon 0.325 and 1337 not limiting

4429
06:08:02,020 --> 06:08:07,040
us to safety improvements but to expansion. I don't understand what's so hard to comprehend about

4430
06:08:07,040 --> 06:08:10,220
this. I can draw it for you if it helped.

4431
06:08:10,220 --> 06:08:12,520
in my health actually.

4432
06:08:12,780 --> 06:08:13,960
We got a board.

4433
06:08:15,720 --> 06:08:18,840
So, what are you wanting to not name?

4434
06:08:20,400 --> 06:08:22,060
Can you slow down a little bit?

4435
06:08:22,260 --> 06:08:25,040
Can we recess judge where I can get this clear with our council

4436
06:08:25,040 --> 06:08:26,320
where they can understand.

4437
06:08:26,880 --> 06:08:27,940
Their lawyers do not transfer.

4438
06:08:28,020 --> 06:08:29,040
They need a clarification.

4439
06:08:29,900 --> 06:08:32,900
Because the reason why you build roads and expand roads

4440
06:08:32,900 --> 06:08:34,340
is to increase capacity.

4441
06:08:35,060 --> 06:08:36,520
Because the capacity is already there.

4442
06:08:36,660 --> 06:08:38,800
I mean, well, need is already there.

4443
06:08:38,800 --> 06:08:41,460
I'm trying, what are you trying to avoid saying?

4444
06:08:42,140 --> 06:08:47,780
We don't, we want to make it clear that we're not, we're having through it with a four-line, and then provide it halfway through there.

4445
06:08:48,540 --> 06:08:49,460
I'm not expecting that.

4446
06:08:50,040 --> 06:08:51,120
We're not in our fifth week.

4447
06:08:52,080 --> 06:08:54,740
I think that there needs to be some clarity.

4448
06:08:54,940 --> 06:08:57,800
But you could save money, say you saved $20 million.

4449
06:08:58,180 --> 06:09:00,300
Judge, you could do that.

4450
06:09:00,440 --> 06:09:00,660
Sure.

4451
06:09:01,020 --> 06:09:01,580
You can't consider.

4452
06:09:02,160 --> 06:09:03,040
That's not acceptable.

4453
06:09:03,220 --> 06:09:08,280
That's not acceptable right now because we haven't gone through the proper processes in that part of the county.

4454
06:09:08,280 --> 06:09:12,100
to give ourselves or anybody else a level of comfort with that.

4455
06:09:12,100 --> 06:09:14,960
That's what we're trying to accomplish, Doug.

4456
06:09:15,780 --> 06:09:16,600
I understand.

4457
06:09:17,680 --> 06:09:21,360
So, this is my, and I think, Commissioner Colleen, to some extent, Commissioner Jones.

4458
06:09:21,800 --> 06:09:26,800
What we're saying is that the quarter study is the study where we're going to be able to have

4459
06:09:26,800 --> 06:09:31,780
the ability to have the public end for it, have the time and the ability to talk about that

4460
06:09:31,780 --> 06:09:36,880
quarter, even the consideration of all of that route, but we're not in the point that I feel

4461
06:09:36,880 --> 06:09:41,160
you know, specified bond line for that. That's no.

4462
06:09:42,100 --> 06:09:43,040
That's not a question.

4463
06:09:43,340 --> 06:09:46,320
Mr. Weaver Mike, I don't know what I've ever raised,

4464
06:09:46,980 --> 06:09:49,380
but generally the bond package we're looking at here,

4465
06:09:49,600 --> 06:09:52,000
this basically 130 million really,

4466
06:09:52,200 --> 06:09:53,180
it hasn't a lot shorter.

4467
06:09:54,520 --> 06:09:57,660
I guess you'd say planning horizon them what the 300

4468
06:09:57,660 --> 06:09:59,720
or so that we're really starting with.

4469
06:10:00,000 --> 06:10:02,480
This is probably a three or four year program.

4470
06:10:03,480 --> 06:10:07,660
That's the point I want to make sure people might. We're not trying to get out of the future.

4471
06:10:07,720 --> 06:10:10,700
We're trying to take care of things that are going to be necessary.

4472
06:10:11,000 --> 06:10:12,960
We're trying to get to back to creating water.

4473
06:10:13,380 --> 06:10:13,960
Preservation needs.

4474
06:10:15,740 --> 06:10:21,040
And some of those needs are preservation of roadway, because if we don't preserve it,

4475
06:10:21,200 --> 06:10:23,400
then they're not able to afford $12 to $24.

4476
06:10:23,800 --> 06:10:24,880
That might not be there.

4477
06:10:24,880 --> 06:10:36,500
So, if it's okay with Mr. Jones besides that section from Arroy R2 to 3237, this is directly

4478
06:10:36,500 --> 06:10:40,280
in Mr. Jones, appreciate the rest of what we're talking about as I'm pressing 3 and

4479
06:10:40,280 --> 06:10:45,380
pressing 4 with your permission commissioner. I'd like to recess with Council, what Commissioner

4480
06:10:45,380 --> 06:10:51,500
Wissant and I can clearly point out what we're trying to do and accomplish so that they can

4481
06:10:51,500 --> 06:10:58,160
understand it clearly enough to write the language that that and do the work that they need to do and bring back to this course

4482
06:10:58,160 --> 06:11:04,640
So it can be described clearly. Is that okay commissioner? I'm good judge. Thank you. For how long you want?

4483
06:11:05,400 --> 06:11:07,160
Week 10 days

4484
06:11:07,160 --> 06:11:13,140
I think I lost all the two. I think 15 20 minutes before. Okay. Thank

4485
06:11:17,590 --> 06:11:22,150
you.

4486
06:11:22,150 --> 06:11:28,570
When we came back from executive sessions, I neglected to have a lot of number 28, the results

4487
06:11:28,570 --> 06:11:31,690
of that executive session was a motion by Mr. Jones.

4488
06:11:32,010 --> 06:11:33,250
Please continue that now.

4489
06:11:33,510 --> 06:11:34,070
Thank you, Judge.

4490
06:11:34,230 --> 06:11:36,430
I make a motion to authorize the county judge,

4491
06:11:36,670 --> 06:11:40,290
to execute a purchase sale agreement between Hayes County and T.M.

4492
06:11:40,290 --> 06:11:41,950
J.S. Buda LLC.

4493
06:11:42,710 --> 06:11:46,390
Related to the purchase of parts of six on Robert S. Light Boulevard,

4494
06:11:46,670 --> 06:11:48,250
as presented in the next executive session.

4495
06:11:48,830 --> 06:11:51,750
Stecker motion in May of 2nd and further discussion

4496
06:11:53,330 --> 06:11:56,050
Not please call roll on item number 28

4497
06:12:00,110 --> 06:12:05,830
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I don't remember 32

4498
06:12:06,510 --> 06:12:11,450
Discussed of issues related to the Hayes County jail. We've done that at Nazim and the planning of projects

4499
06:12:11,450 --> 06:12:17,310
pertinent change of the public safety facilities needs within the county that was opened as a separate item

4500
06:12:17,890 --> 06:12:26,850
It's now closed, we've had an report from our engineers with the bond project, and that

4501
06:12:26,850 --> 06:12:27,730
is now closed.

4502
06:12:28,430 --> 06:12:34,810
Number 33, I lived as a burn band, you know, that where yesterday I asked the court,

4503
06:12:35,210 --> 06:12:45,550
ratified my lifting of the burn band yesterday, today's drought index is 326, well below,

4504
06:12:45,550 --> 06:12:49,770
We cautioned everyone to continue to use common sense and outdoor burning.

4505
06:12:51,610 --> 06:12:59,090
Please pattern not starting to fire that doors for large because our fire trucks will get stuck

4506
06:12:59,090 --> 06:13:07,030
in the mud in very hard-on fire trucks, so if you would make a motion to ratify, I would

4507
06:13:07,030 --> 06:13:08,050
appreciate it.

4508
06:13:08,730 --> 06:13:09,130
Thank you.

4509
06:13:09,130 --> 06:13:12,150
most of the second or ratified burn band being lifted yesterday

4510
06:13:12,150 --> 06:13:14,090
please call roll.

4511
06:13:14,090 --> 06:13:15,470
Mr. King, is there any? Yes.

4512
06:13:15,950 --> 06:13:17,270
Mr. President? Yes.

4513
06:13:17,270 --> 06:13:18,310
Mr. Chairman? Yes.

4514
06:13:18,670 --> 06:13:19,490
Judge Com. Yes.

4515
06:13:20,810 --> 06:13:31,070
Okay. Now, the last thing we have to do, let me inform the clerk that item number 17 has been pulled.

4516
06:13:31,470 --> 06:13:34,170
Item number 18 has been pulled.

4517
06:13:39,510 --> 06:13:48,790
Number 27, the budget workshop has been postponed until 823, 2017, no loop posted time for the

4518
06:13:48,790 --> 06:13:54,110
budget hearing of participants who have been notified and have been rescheduled for next week.

4519
06:13:54,110 --> 06:13:56,230
George, you said, you're 23, 17.

4520
06:13:56,970 --> 06:13:58,250
You're 17, yeah?

4521
06:13:58,750 --> 06:13:59,370
That's the door.

4522
06:13:59,490 --> 06:14:00,230
Oh, oh, okay.

4523
06:14:00,270 --> 06:14:02,130
8, 20, 3, 17, it's next.

4524
06:14:04,550 --> 06:14:05,670
Today's the 6th day.

4525
06:14:06,030 --> 06:14:07,590
No, but it's 2016.

4526
06:14:08,570 --> 06:14:09,110
I'm 27.

4527
06:14:09,630 --> 06:14:10,330
I'm just hoping.

4528
06:14:12,370 --> 06:14:12,470
I'm just hoping.

4529
06:14:12,470 --> 06:14:14,130
If you're right down, you're at least like it today.

4530
06:14:17,130 --> 06:14:18,550
I'm living in the deep back.

4531
06:14:18,890 --> 06:14:19,790
You're in the deep back.

4532
06:14:21,050 --> 06:14:22,650
I'm going to swarn us, you know.

4533
06:14:24,110 --> 06:14:26,530
It's the same like it's 2017.

4534
06:14:27,110 --> 06:14:30,010
You know what your mother told you to just not write the swars.

4535
06:14:33,430 --> 06:14:37,150
Okay, we can get our commissioner coming back in here.

4536
06:15:02,000 --> 06:15:14,180
Okay, so let's turn off the camera. Okay, we're back. What we've been doing is spending time on the proposition for the bond issuance.

4537
06:15:15,560 --> 06:15:21,180
I assume that everybody is copesthetic with the wage written.

4538
06:15:21,180 --> 06:15:33,460
Well, I just handed it out judge and let me just go over in concept, at least if you would,

4539
06:15:33,700 --> 06:15:36,300
while we're trying to accomplish here.

4540
06:15:37,280 --> 06:15:43,180
I've pulled in in proposition number two, the current number as I understand it.

4541
06:15:44,080 --> 06:15:45,880
At one thirty one four hundred.

4542
06:15:45,880 --> 06:15:46,500
And it

4543
06:15:48,900 --> 06:15:56,760
has a number of things that the court could do in support of

4544
06:15:59,860 --> 06:16:01,040
a project.

4545
06:16:01,620 --> 06:16:08,840
And that includes environmental mitigation, pedestrian walkways, and bicycle transportation

4546
06:16:08,840 --> 06:16:13,300
improvements, drainage improvements, lower water crossings.

4547
06:16:16,000 --> 06:16:22,720
That is not described specifically in the language and called out on its own.

4548
06:16:22,720 --> 06:16:25,820
Now, the court, four or two of those three,

4549
06:16:26,280 --> 06:16:29,760
could I think appropriate call them out.

4550
06:16:31,540 --> 06:16:35,580
And therefore, on day one, after issues,

4551
06:16:36,700 --> 06:16:40,300
use bucket money on a project that's not named.

4552
06:16:41,560 --> 06:16:43,740
And that's something that this labor still

4553
06:16:43,740 --> 06:16:45,020
does not include but could.

4554
06:16:45,280 --> 06:16:46,720
That's the only thing I think that we might

4555
06:16:46,720 --> 06:16:48,900
be missing that the court might desire.

4556
06:16:53,680 --> 06:17:15,960
So we have specifically named every project that you had on your master list that was on the, yes, that, that equals, and at least I believe we have specifically named what we want to accomplish on all of the projects that were called out for a 1, 31, 4,

4557
06:17:15,960 --> 06:17:28,660
You also have the buckets that's 22.5 million for drainage of water crossings, environmental mitigation, and hiking bike.

4558
06:17:31,470 --> 06:17:37,490
You also have 10 million identified for safety mobility match.

4559
06:17:39,980 --> 06:17:49,300
If you wanted to do under that first bucket that is 22.5 million, if you wanted to, for instance,

4560
06:17:50,100 --> 06:17:56,320
make a high-convite trail improvement that is associated with the roadway.

4561
06:17:56,440 --> 06:18:00,100
It's still, it cannot be a park project.

4562
06:18:00,720 --> 06:18:02,480
It would have to be a transportation project.

4563
06:18:02,680 --> 06:18:07,260
It would have to be associated with a road that the county has authority to make improvements on.

4564
06:18:07,260 --> 06:18:14,100
county roads, county road connectors, state roads. But is not one of the roads that's called out here,

4565
06:18:16,580 --> 06:18:19,880
then you would want to say specifically

4566
06:18:21,900 --> 06:18:26,160
that this bucket is named as a project in and of itself.

4567
06:18:27,480 --> 06:18:27,480
So,

4568
06:18:29,690 --> 06:18:36,930
may I give a direct example? Yeah. So, if the county wanted to assist

4569
06:18:38,660 --> 06:18:41,080
the city

4570
06:18:43,350 --> 06:18:44,690
of Wimbley

4571
06:18:46,870 --> 06:18:54,770
in complete the high combined trail that we started collectively with

4572
06:18:54,770 --> 06:19:00,170
citywood Creek or citywimbley on. When it's no parkway, it goes through Blue Hole Park and comes

4573
06:19:00,170 --> 06:19:07,530
out to Old Cal Road there in Wimbley by the cemetery. We wanted to keep going downtown and make that

4574
06:19:07,530 --> 06:19:15,070
out in retro 12, back to Wintersville Parkway as an example, or another example that we wanted

4575
06:19:15,070 --> 06:19:26,530
to try to build a five pedestrian trail from 12 and 2325 to the high school on 2325 with

4576
06:19:27,470 --> 06:19:35,150
those projects qualify. And the way we have this proposition currently written,

4577
06:19:37,610 --> 06:19:38,350
you understand what

4578
06:19:38,350 --> 06:19:40,070
I do.

4579
06:19:43,700 --> 06:19:49,740
I think you would want to name the Heikenbike bucket as potentially its own project

4580
06:19:49,740 --> 06:19:56,700
in order to achieve that. Now what we've done here, and for a commission of colleagues

4581
06:19:56,700 --> 06:19:59,980
request and let me just refer you back to the

4582
06:20:00,000 --> 06:20:09,960
A language that we have, clerk, Mr. and comments request, we have dictated what we would not do toward the end of the new language on your page 2, which is underlined.

4583
06:20:10,600 --> 06:20:23,200
And we have stated that improvement of the following roadways will be limited to shoulder improvements, turn lanes, pedestrian walkways, and bicycle transportation improvements.

4584
06:20:23,200 --> 06:20:27,380
And then we call certain, certain roadways out.

4585
06:20:27,780 --> 06:20:29,800
I can check this with Julie, but in my opinion,

4586
06:20:30,480 --> 06:20:34,940
if the only unnamed project improvements that you wanted to make

4587
06:20:34,940 --> 06:20:40,220
is one of these projects, then you're probably okay using the

4588
06:20:40,220 --> 06:20:44,260
pedestrian and bicycle bucket because you've called it out and you've named it.

4589
06:20:44,920 --> 06:20:47,720
So I think that's sufficient for the two that you named.

4590
06:20:48,420 --> 06:20:52,340
If you could come up with one that happens to not be in this exclusion list,

4591
06:20:52,340 --> 06:21:02,560
So let's, um, um, what if we, um, wanted to do, uh,

4592
06:21:04,160 --> 06:21:08,000
bike lane on post-rope, or stage coach?

4593
06:21:09,080 --> 06:21:13,080
That I didn't even want to wait until, and this is what we,

4594
06:21:13,100 --> 06:21:16,160
Commissioner Jones, what you and I talked about on the break earlier,

4595
06:21:17,920 --> 06:21:21,880
and I often stayed to my position a little more conservatively than

4596
06:21:21,880 --> 06:21:30,580
And I think that most of it on the court likes that, maybe a little more conservatively than could be interpreted by law.

4597
06:21:31,740 --> 06:21:52,060
I have been reminded by some of the folks listening and they are correct that if all named projects are let and we have sufficient contingency to take care of any unknown factors at that point.

4598
06:21:52,900 --> 06:22:00,080
then you could go to your unnamed projects arguably. In other words, I stated earlier that

4599
06:22:00,080 --> 06:22:05,240
projects should be complete. You don't have to turn the key in the door and close it before

4600
06:22:05,240 --> 06:22:13,520
out before you can go on to unnamed projects. I think Commissioner Jones is the example he had given

4601
06:22:13,520 --> 06:22:19,760
was, well, what if something gets stuck in environmental? Well, the project in that case hasn't been

4602
06:22:19,760 --> 06:22:26,300
yet, and I think you would want to keep waiting because there are too many contingencies to

4603
06:22:26,300 --> 06:22:30,960
account for you. You need to be able to see some light at the end of the tunnel. So for

4604
06:22:30,960 --> 06:22:39,860
your post road, hike and bike, theoretically, let's say. You want all named projects to be

4605
06:22:39,860 --> 06:22:49,740
at that point of being let with contingency so that we can see the light at the end of the

4606
06:22:49,740 --> 06:22:50,900
consider,

4607
06:22:56,850 --> 06:23:01,050
they have up that for different reasons, but it's catching this as well.

4608
06:23:01,290 --> 06:23:08,950
They have been named in the language of the restricted language of how we amended

4609
06:23:08,950 --> 06:23:15,750
prop to address different issues and to clearly describe what can be done on certain

4610
06:23:15,750 --> 06:23:21,970
roadways and non-alternative roadways and in Hase County, predominantly in the central

4611
06:23:21,970 --> 06:23:24,510
Western part, well, all of the Central Western part of Facebook.

4612
06:23:25,950 --> 06:23:27,650
But I think if I'm understanding,

4613
06:23:27,970 --> 06:23:30,610
you can't be correctly, for example,

4614
06:23:30,750 --> 06:23:37,350
Mr. James B, if you have a project on trying to take

4615
06:23:37,350 --> 06:23:38,550
a something that's not made,

4616
06:23:46,690 --> 06:23:47,910
if you want it to build a

4617
06:23:47,910 --> 06:23:50,590
hike to a bike trail or walk sidewalk on a cozy road

4618
06:23:50,590 --> 06:23:53,590
needs, if you will, since it's not made,

4619
06:23:54,290 --> 06:23:57,970
he is saying that we have to where we have to do everything

4620
06:23:57,970 --> 06:24:05,590
in the form you've been able to do a project or a project like that to the court in the

4621
06:24:05,590 --> 06:24:13,080
fourths of perhaps if there's areas in which colleagues believe that they wouldn't have

4622
06:24:13,080 --> 06:24:13,860
that opportunity.

4623
06:24:15,780 --> 06:24:17,520
We can pull the bucket down.

4624
06:24:17,660 --> 06:24:20,000
We can name it right, Maureen.

4625
06:24:20,500 --> 06:24:27,840
Well, you could either name it or just name it as bicycle improvements only or pedestrian

4626
06:24:27,840 --> 06:24:29,620
in a bicycle group improvements only.

4627
06:24:30,200 --> 06:24:33,980
We're borrowing money here to pay back what taxpayer dollars.

4628
06:24:36,120 --> 06:24:40,680
I would like to see this money spend on transportation problems and projects that really

4629
06:24:40,680 --> 06:24:42,880
make a difference for transportation.

4630
06:24:44,000 --> 06:24:50,760
A heightened bike trail has a hard time qualifying in my mind, especially inside a city limit,

4631
06:24:50,760 --> 06:24:59,740
with county bonded dollars. Maybe I'm wrong. But I'd like to have some cooperation and some

4632
06:25:00,180 --> 06:25:17,980
Co-funding, if we're going to do that. I mean, because the county is on the debt for the money and if we really are sincere about doing these projects and that's great, but let's don't promise people things that we can't deliver.

4633
06:25:17,980 --> 06:25:22,920
Well, I didn't hear, I might be wrong, I didn't get that for this description.

4634
06:25:23,700 --> 06:25:31,580
But I can tell you that in reference to the examples that Mr. Connace made, and the June road up as a point,

4635
06:25:32,280 --> 06:25:37,980
I can't think of any of those that we haven't done without considerable consultation to

4636
06:25:39,080 --> 06:25:43,660
particularly cities and areas where the improvements were going to be within their corporate boundaries.

4637
06:25:44,320 --> 06:25:46,940
And most of them have been cooperative efforts.

4638
06:25:48,760 --> 06:25:53,340
And a lot of them are required to be cooperative efforts because of the

4639
06:25:53,340 --> 06:25:56,860
federal planning as well as federal funds that come in with that order.

4640
06:25:56,900 --> 06:26:02,240
Well, Campo has dedicated some money to bike trails.

4641
06:26:03,080 --> 06:26:04,500
There's federal money, judges.

4642
06:26:05,120 --> 06:26:05,980
Customs specifically.

4643
06:26:06,680 --> 06:26:09,280
So, why are we using that money for those projects?

4644
06:26:10,380 --> 06:26:11,220
No one said they can.

4645
06:26:11,220 --> 06:26:22,320
Yeah, and they probably won't, well, if I'm going to touch it, it will be a hybrid of all the spots, to, to, to, to, to, in order to accomplish this, whether it's in college, you know, or, and when I say,

4646
06:26:22,540 --> 06:26:27,900
come beat up, talking, general areas, too, doesn't need to happen in some things city, or play all those areas.

4647
06:26:28,220 --> 06:26:37,340
Will you use these spots I plan with our other jurisdictions, which will put us at a very high opportunity to compete,

4648
06:26:37,340 --> 06:26:40,360
to read your letter for those funds and get our colleagues.

4649
06:26:40,780 --> 06:26:42,720
And your stick should be like names in there.

4650
06:26:44,100 --> 06:26:45,600
Even in the north of winter.

4651
06:26:46,260 --> 06:26:46,300
Yeah.

4652
06:26:47,800 --> 06:26:49,580
Hey, I've done two different projects.

4653
06:26:50,020 --> 06:26:52,940
With Camp O'Gramps and City Fund and Sidewalk.

4654
06:26:53,740 --> 06:26:54,100
Great.

4655
06:26:54,840 --> 06:26:55,020
Yeah.

4656
06:26:56,120 --> 06:27:00,060
So, I just wanted to ask those questions before they had to come up some other time.

4657
06:27:00,860 --> 06:27:04,220
You know, let's get our projects listed.

4658
06:27:04,540 --> 06:27:05,300
Let's get them funded.

4659
06:27:05,360 --> 06:27:07,080
Let's get them.

4660
06:27:07,920 --> 06:27:12,080
And not worry about leftovers until we've got these projects done.

4661
06:27:12,360 --> 06:27:12,620
Yes, sir.

4662
06:27:12,620 --> 06:27:14,480
They're not leftovers that were done with the first one.

4663
06:27:14,480 --> 06:27:18,680
And for example, for example, Mr. Jones.

4664
06:27:19,220 --> 06:27:25,840
Thought it was a good idea to buy the money down 1967, for example.

4665
06:27:26,420 --> 06:27:31,340
I'm not as excited as I've been in a fire, and my power has objected.

4666
06:27:31,820 --> 06:27:32,840
It's pretty much not a pleasure.

4667
06:27:35,330 --> 06:27:37,530
I wouldn't think that would call fire on it.

4668
06:27:37,710 --> 06:27:39,510
Enough of not being put all there.

4669
06:27:47,900 --> 06:27:49,000
Thank you very much, everybody.

4670
06:27:49,560 --> 06:27:49,840
Yes.

4671
06:27:50,100 --> 06:27:51,120
What can I hear?

4672
06:27:52,360 --> 06:27:53,700
I just know this first.

4673
06:27:53,880 --> 06:27:57,480
Thanks on the language that I guess I have a question about.

4674
06:27:58,440 --> 06:27:59,240
Let's see.

4675
06:28:00,200 --> 06:28:00,540
Okay.

4676
06:28:06,960 --> 06:28:07,640
We

4677
06:28:10,230 --> 06:28:12,170
are in proposition too, commissioner.

4678
06:28:13,710 --> 06:28:19,390
Where it starts, it's the very last two words of that 15 sentence.

4679
06:28:20,570 --> 06:28:25,730
It says, why me and right away, preservation to old, best, rough highway.

4680
06:28:26,370 --> 06:28:30,030
And I think we're confunding, that wouldn't be correct.

4681
06:28:30,030 --> 06:28:32,870
would not preserve any right of way of where.

4682
06:28:33,750 --> 06:28:37,250
I didn't know what corridor improvements meant.

4683
06:28:37,770 --> 06:28:40,470
Except that it might be widening in right-of-way preservation.

4684
06:28:40,570 --> 06:28:45,710
Safety improvements, if that's the only section on County Road 266, which is between

4685
06:28:45,710 --> 06:28:49,210
a standpoint road and rapid road that has not been improved.

4686
06:28:49,670 --> 06:28:54,590
We have a lot of families that live on that section of roadway where children walk to the

4687
06:28:54,590 --> 06:28:59,910
school, and so it's just adding shoulders to that section of shoulders.

4688
06:29:00,190 --> 06:29:02,770
It's a side note, and there's so much to shoulders.

4689
06:29:04,670 --> 06:29:07,090
Reconstruction and reconstruction in shoulder work.

4690
06:29:07,430 --> 06:29:10,370
So there's, you know, reconstruction and safety improvements.

4691
06:29:12,370 --> 06:29:17,110
And do you want me to call out the sections of old bass rock highway specifically,

4692
06:29:17,310 --> 06:29:20,810
so that you're placing the limitations on there?

4693
06:29:20,870 --> 06:29:21,390
We could.

4694
06:29:21,570 --> 06:29:21,910
Okay.

4695
06:29:21,910 --> 06:29:24,150
to the Center for Road and Rapper Road.

4696
06:29:24,310 --> 06:29:26,470
Is that a city street or a city road?

4697
06:29:27,170 --> 06:29:28,410
When you start a commission, you know,

4698
06:29:28,510 --> 06:29:30,410
an 18 right way to a conference like all.

4699
06:29:30,730 --> 06:29:34,190
You know, and there is possibly going to be a bit

4700
06:29:34,190 --> 06:29:38,530
development that runs along that section of roadway.

4701
06:29:38,530 --> 06:29:41,810
So we will ask you to give right away to the banks

4702
06:29:41,810 --> 06:29:46,730
and to see if that's why that project has happened.

4703
06:29:46,830 --> 06:29:50,830
OK, and then the next one is continuing on.

4704
06:29:50,830 --> 06:29:59,650
It's a safety improvements and right-of-way preservation to center point road from Hunter Road to Old Bastard Highway.

4705
06:30:00,140 --> 06:30:04,120
Not sure what that is. We didn't have anything on mine or this.

4706
06:30:04,260 --> 06:30:16,900
I originally had to. I originally had to, I aged 35, 100 roads, 35, and Longshell indicated that I should expand from

4707
06:30:16,900 --> 06:30:24,580
100 road to old master. But that's your precinct. So, if you don't plan on that being done, then we'll pull it back

4708
06:30:24,580 --> 06:30:25,780
535, I guess?

4709
06:30:25,980 --> 06:30:31,420
Well, there's no funds indicating that on the list, so like, you know.

4710
06:30:31,620 --> 06:30:31,820
Right.

4711
06:30:32,380 --> 06:30:40,600
I think the attention commission was that there are funds available that that would be within the scope of that.

4712
06:30:41,780 --> 06:30:48,800
Well, let's keep in mind that under this notion that we're contracting with the voter here,

4713
06:30:49,200 --> 06:30:53,200
that we shouldn't name a project that we don't have funding

4714
06:30:54,940 --> 06:30:59,940
associated with it in in this month we will have we do have some

4715
06:30:59,940 --> 06:31:04,140
contingency built in we will hopefully have savings but if you don't have it

4716
06:31:04,140 --> 06:31:07,940
plugged in and let's not name it. Well now increasing three there's

4717
06:31:07,940 --> 06:31:10,880
center point growth safety improvements in right or right away

4718
06:31:10,880 --> 06:31:15,520
preservation but that's only 1.5 so I thought that was from I-35 to 100

4719
06:31:16,100 --> 06:31:18,780
That's what I understand that.

4720
06:31:19,360 --> 06:31:20,540
I'll pull that back then.

4721
06:31:21,220 --> 06:31:21,220
Now,

4722
06:31:23,640 --> 06:31:28,620
obviously, that's going to be, you should have a good negotiation with the city of Saint

4723
06:31:28,620 --> 06:31:31,680
Marcus on how to share it.

4724
06:31:32,400 --> 06:31:36,340
But that's the best thing that's not to give me to accomplish the goal.

4725
06:31:37,840 --> 06:31:42,400
And the other thing, the only other thing I would say is that the reason we took that out of the original

4726
06:31:42,400 --> 06:31:49,240
list anyway was because that section of centerpoint road also borders that large piece of property

4727
06:31:49,240 --> 06:31:54,740
that will be developed in the city with a choir right away from that developer.

4728
06:31:54,900 --> 06:32:02,400
So from the hotel, from hotel to 266 and then from 266 to rapper road on.

4729
06:32:02,940 --> 06:32:05,620
That's Minanex as well anyway, all right?

4730
06:32:05,620 --> 06:32:09,320
It is correct, so we should receive all the additional right away.

4731
06:32:11,460 --> 06:32:14,660
So I've pulled it back, I've pulled it back to I-35.

4732
06:32:18,460 --> 06:32:21,380
How does that change with cost-wise?

4733
06:32:21,900 --> 06:32:22,580
It does not.

4734
06:32:23,140 --> 06:32:24,700
It wasn't fun in any way.

4735
06:32:27,300 --> 06:32:28,960
So we're talking about things that should be on here.

4736
06:32:29,160 --> 06:32:29,880
Our funded things.

4737
06:32:30,760 --> 06:32:33,160
Yeah, so we're talking about things that aren't funded.

4738
06:32:33,400 --> 06:32:35,460
I mean we need to make sure this is in the bond packages.

4739
06:32:36,120 --> 06:32:37,560
Or we'll be funding with these ones.

4740
06:32:37,660 --> 06:32:38,440
That's what she just did.

4741
06:32:38,560 --> 06:32:39,000
That's right.

4742
06:32:39,000 --> 06:32:45,520
But she's pulled it back to what was, to the scope of what was budgeted.

4743
06:32:45,660 --> 06:32:53,720
Just to Commissioner, wasn't that I noticed here in the parent medical after US-290, if you

4744
06:32:53,720 --> 06:32:58,800
look a little further down there, sort of a laundry list of state highways and FMs.

4745
06:32:59,840 --> 06:33:06,820
And it lists US-290, and I'm going to say including the intersections of Holder Lane, Martin

4746
06:33:06,820 --> 06:33:07,560
Road, et cetera.

4747
06:33:07,560 --> 06:33:16,980
So I don't want that parenthetical to, let's lead, I voted to believe we're making improvements

4748
06:33:16,980 --> 06:33:20,160
to those roadways, we're making improvements to those intersections.

4749
06:33:25,510 --> 06:33:25,770
So, yeah.

4750
06:33:26,230 --> 06:33:27,330
That's right.

4751
06:33:28,150 --> 06:33:34,990
Including the intersections that have over my intersection, so do we have to perfect this

4752
06:33:34,990 --> 06:33:36,210
language today?

4753
06:33:37,010 --> 06:33:40,330
Is there a leeway of?

4754
06:33:40,330 --> 06:33:43,550
I approve the general concept of the bond package

4755
06:33:44,470 --> 06:33:48,290
at heavy time to edit or to correct because I'm sure

4756
06:33:48,290 --> 06:33:52,830
that there's something wrong with anything that we do.

4757
06:33:53,190 --> 06:33:53,810
You know what I mean?

4758
06:33:54,390 --> 06:33:56,570
Maybe it's something with language change,

4759
06:33:56,810 --> 06:33:59,670
or maybe obviously it won't be the dollar amount change,

4760
06:33:59,770 --> 06:34:03,530
but it maybe there was just a hefty exit stone today.

4761
06:34:04,190 --> 06:34:05,450
The deadline is a quarter.

4762
06:34:06,090 --> 06:34:06,790
I don't think.

4763
06:34:07,010 --> 06:34:07,350
I'm sorry.

4764
06:34:07,710 --> 06:34:09,130
Other than a screwdriver is there.

4765
06:34:09,690 --> 06:34:14,770
Well, right, I think you all may clear what the intent is at this point.

4766
06:34:16,410 --> 06:34:20,750
We have long-shell and Julie Houston are working on the short-form language, the ballot

4767
06:34:20,750 --> 06:34:26,050
language right now, so do you need it approval on this?

4768
06:34:26,630 --> 06:34:31,130
The deadline for calling for an election is the 22nd, which is Monday.

4769
06:34:32,730 --> 06:34:41,470
I think the sentiment of, at least some of you, and I think it's probably a proper sentiment

4770
06:34:41,470 --> 06:34:46,930
was that for the substance of this conversation, we should not have especially called

4771
06:34:46,930 --> 06:34:47,350
session.

4772
06:34:47,530 --> 06:34:49,410
It should be a regular session for the court.

4773
06:34:49,570 --> 06:34:58,010
We've had that today, if the court saw that the posting is says we have to perfect the language

4774
06:34:58,010 --> 06:34:58,770
of the proposition.

4775
06:35:00,530 --> 06:35:19,810
Discussion and Post-Lax to approve an order by the Commissioner's Court of Hays County Texas, calling it bond election, could be held in hays County Texas, making provision for the conduct of the election, making provision for the conduct of a joint election with various political subdivisions, resolving other matters, incident related to such election.

4776
06:35:20,250 --> 06:35:26,530
Well, this thing we're working on here is the order of the Commissioner's Court. It represents the call for the election.

4777
06:35:26,790 --> 06:35:28,170
We have to have it by Monday.

4778
06:35:28,170 --> 06:35:33,290
And the deadline for that is Monday, so we could still post with 72 or

4779
06:35:33,290 --> 06:35:34,830
more hours, notice for Monday,

4780
06:35:36,990 --> 06:35:38,770
or the court can roll over to tomorrow,

4781
06:35:39,030 --> 06:35:43,430
which it can always do under public meetings that go over to the next day.

4782
06:35:43,650 --> 06:35:45,690
As long as it announces before it adjourns.

4783
06:35:46,090 --> 06:35:48,670
The evening motion for this.

4784
06:35:48,750 --> 06:35:51,350
I mean, we need to approve this.

4785
06:35:51,450 --> 06:35:52,870
Either the day or the court.

4786
06:35:53,690 --> 06:35:55,170
It needs to be approved yet.

4787
06:35:55,170 --> 06:36:00,890
for the for to perfect the call for election this this order needs to be in this

4788
06:36:00,890 --> 06:36:05,990
session that's what well no before the deadline before Monday before next Monday

4789
06:36:05,990 --> 06:36:14,230
before end of day one and so we could call a special session Friday and you're getting

4790
06:36:14,230 --> 06:36:25,150
low so it would be okay but you could roll it over to tomorrow yeah but we got a

4791
06:36:25,150 --> 06:36:29,870
And I don't think we're that far away, Judge, we can just focus and concentrate, or we can take

4792
06:36:29,870 --> 06:36:33,730
a day or break, but I think we're, I don't think we're, I don't think we're.

4793
06:36:33,790 --> 06:36:39,710
I think this language is, is everything, and other than the edits that Commissioner Engels

4794
06:36:39,710 --> 06:36:42,010
be, might I don't have any other duty?

4795
06:36:42,410 --> 06:36:45,310
No, I'll have them the change we might record to you as to not.

4796
06:36:46,150 --> 06:36:52,270
Do you, do you all have any objection to the buckets not being called out?

4797
06:36:52,270 --> 06:36:58,710
I'm really referencing the low water crossings bucket.

4798
06:36:59,170 --> 06:37:03,310
We do that in the information we put out.

4799
06:37:06,060 --> 06:37:12,540
Well, the right now, the low water crossings bucket and other than those exceptions,

4800
06:37:12,800 --> 06:37:22,600
listed near the bottom, the pedestrian and bicycle pathways, need to be associated with the name and project.

4801
06:37:23,880 --> 06:37:31,220
As long as you all are okay with that, or are okay, okay, waiting for savings, I'll turn it at least.

4802
06:37:32,440 --> 06:37:34,420
Then we don't need to mess with that language.

4803
06:37:37,360 --> 06:37:40,760
So, I got a quick question when a colleague is looking over.

4804
06:37:43,900 --> 06:37:45,480
If you go down,

4805
06:37:48,970 --> 06:37:54,010
you were says intersections of FM 3237 and on and 12,

4806
06:37:54,010 --> 06:37:58,750
safety improvements to Fisher Store Road.

4807
06:38:02,700 --> 06:38:06,860
FM 2325 needs to be part of that Fisher Store Road

4808
06:38:06,860 --> 06:38:07,960
description. Correct?

4809
06:38:12,920 --> 06:38:21,320
That's how it was described in the... I can put, I can specify,

4810
06:38:22,480 --> 06:38:29,540
safety improvements to Fisher Store Road at RRM 2325? Yes. That's how that,

4811
06:38:29,540 --> 06:38:32,200
Guys, that's how we've drawn it up,

4812
06:38:39,010 --> 06:38:39,010
right?

4813
06:38:40,590 --> 06:38:41,750
I'm going to start talking.

4814
06:38:42,170 --> 06:38:45,810
Tell me about the 150-center screen.

4815
06:38:46,070 --> 06:38:46,830
Lineage will be located.

4816
06:38:47,370 --> 06:38:48,650
That's the switching station.

4817
06:38:48,990 --> 06:38:52,910
Try moving the tracks where the train has for the train's pass.

4818
06:38:53,130 --> 06:38:54,370
Yeah, I blocked all the rear.

4819
06:38:55,830 --> 06:38:57,870
Roadways in the north.

4820
06:38:58,650 --> 06:38:59,910
Out of the city.

4821
06:39:00,990 --> 06:39:01,950
Maybe the sweat won't make so.

4822
06:39:02,190 --> 06:39:02,510
The trains.

4823
06:39:02,910 --> 06:39:03,630
The outer city.

4824
06:39:03,790 --> 06:39:04,310
When they do the switch.

4825
06:39:04,310 --> 06:39:17,610
So if we're matching judge the reason it becomes relevant to the county is that that's a FM 150 that runs well now 150 that comes through

4826
06:39:17,610 --> 06:39:27,670
Yeah, so if if we realize if and when we realign FM 150 that will still be I suppose what we would call business FM 150

4827
06:39:27,670 --> 06:39:34,290
or we would just realign it I'm not sure what it's still be a county road connector

4828
06:39:34,290 --> 06:39:43,610
at least. What it was named or not. So the part that limits what we were talking about on some

4829
06:39:43,610 --> 06:39:50,810
of the roadways in Hayes County as it retains to this point. All the courts continue to

4830
06:39:50,810 --> 06:39:59,730
I would like to read this aloud, but do not include improvements and improvement of the falling

4831
06:40:25,940 --> 06:40:29,320
That's a long stretch.

4832
06:40:29,320 --> 06:40:34,620
That goes from Sam Marcus all the way, almost the dripping springs.

4833
06:40:36,580 --> 06:40:42,460
FM-3237 from RM-12 to FM-150.

4834
06:40:44,400 --> 06:40:49,260
FM-2325 from RM-12 to the County Army.

4835
06:40:51,060 --> 06:40:55,480
On 32 from RM-12 to the County Army.

4836
06:40:56,850 --> 06:41:04,130
So, the only thing that could be done on those roads and relation to this bond with any

4837
06:41:04,830 --> 06:41:14,410
dollars associated with this bond is for children, children, permits, turn lanes, pedestrian

4838
06:41:14,410 --> 06:41:17,730
walkways, and bicycle and transportation improvements.

4839
06:41:26,790 --> 06:41:29,790
I'll go back and work on this language and if we can.

4840
06:41:37,810 --> 06:41:53,050
I think that was exactly what the commissioner is after is to not increase capacity, but there may be some monetary safety improvements that need to be made in certain areas.

4841
06:41:53,050 --> 06:41:56,050
installation, it turned light and deceleration lines, et cetera.

4842
06:41:57,090 --> 06:42:01,270
Well, man, this is a man to gain obviously the reason why we're doing anything

4843
06:42:01,270 --> 06:42:04,530
on a road is to increase the ability of that to carry traffic.

4844
06:42:06,230 --> 06:42:08,410
Well, we're also improving roads for safety.

4845
06:42:08,710 --> 06:42:09,610
Yeah, I got that.

4846
06:42:09,730 --> 06:42:13,250
But what I'm saying is you have to increase the capacity or why do you spend the money?

4847
06:42:14,490 --> 06:42:17,390
Well, I think we've to increase the capacity.

4848
06:42:17,390 --> 06:42:18,530
Yeah, I got all that.

4849
06:42:18,690 --> 06:42:21,230
But why are you saying you're not trying to increase the capacity?

4850
06:42:21,230 --> 06:42:25,630
Well I think we need to capacity many times to prove the safety thing.

4851
06:42:25,690 --> 06:42:30,670
We've always distinguished between safety and mobility that keep people happy, that we're

4852
06:42:30,670 --> 06:42:34,730
not widening the road, or that we're not increasing capacity, because I don't want people

4853
06:42:34,730 --> 06:42:35,550
in their neighborhood.

4854
06:42:36,390 --> 06:42:38,110
I mean, what are we playing this game for?

4855
06:42:38,450 --> 06:42:45,610
It's not a game judge, it's directness and transparency, but exactly what we're going to do

4856
06:42:45,610 --> 06:42:53,050
with these funds and to put that in this proposition, so the people that we represent

4857
06:42:53,050 --> 06:43:00,330
have clarity on exactly how those funds can and cannot be used, and in the roadways that

4858
06:43:00,330 --> 06:43:08,130
were described, I'll just speak for the area that you and I represent, that I'm Commissioner

4859
06:43:08,970 --> 06:43:15,190
of, those types of roadways, the only intention of the state of Texas and the health

4860
06:43:15,190 --> 06:43:20,730
county at this point in time is to make safety improvements of turn lanes,

4861
06:43:20,970 --> 06:43:25,250
deceleration lanes, shoulder improvements, similar to like what 12 looks like

4862
06:43:25,250 --> 06:43:34,610
judge and pedestrian lanes. If they do a different planning process, a different

4863
06:43:34,610 --> 06:43:42,870
bond, a different time, there becomes a need for additional lanes really, then

4864
06:43:42,870 --> 06:43:48,630
we'll go through a process together as a court and as a community to address where and

4865
06:43:48,630 --> 06:43:52,290
when and how those would be addressed, what we're doing judges just saying that we're

4866
06:43:52,290 --> 06:43:56,430
not ready for that and it's not needed frankly. So we're going to keep talking, we're

4867
06:43:56,430 --> 06:44:01,630
going to keep planning and we're going to make sure that people understand clearly that the

4868
06:44:01,630 --> 06:44:11,230
confines of the public in terms of when we've started that process in many areas of the county.

4869
06:44:11,230 --> 06:44:16,290
we've started having that discussion on all of our roadways.

4870
06:44:16,290 --> 06:44:18,310
It's basically county and state and in our...

4871
06:44:18,310 --> 06:44:19,830
It's basically on the past date.

4872
06:44:20,090 --> 06:44:22,190
You want to measure the traffic and say,

4873
06:44:22,430 --> 06:44:24,770
this road can't carry people in the country.

4874
06:44:25,710 --> 06:44:26,730
I'm just trying to get down.

4875
06:44:26,830 --> 06:44:28,290
That's going to get the language right.

4876
06:44:28,370 --> 06:44:30,590
Right. But what you're trying to say to them is,

4877
06:44:30,750 --> 06:44:31,710
we're not yet.

4878
06:44:32,350 --> 06:44:34,350
It's some point we're going to have to do another process

4879
06:44:35,070 --> 06:44:36,730
to determine the next need.

4880
06:44:36,890 --> 06:44:38,190
That's right. So that's right.

4881
06:44:38,190 --> 06:44:43,450
It, if that occurs, I mean, the crystal ball that we have shows that things will continue to change your

4882
06:44:43,450 --> 06:44:43,930
case count.

4883
06:44:44,390 --> 06:44:48,570
If that, if that continues, then those discussions will need to be hot.

4884
06:44:48,890 --> 06:44:54,730
If it's for clarity, you want to make sure to, to the public that we're in a process that

4885
06:44:54,730 --> 06:44:56,430
doesn't stop with this fun fact.

4886
06:44:56,810 --> 06:44:58,850
Oh, gosh, this is the beginning of the process.

4887
06:44:59,230 --> 06:44:59,930
This is what we need to do.

4888
06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:10,680
We need to get us to the next five years or so. But it's sometime in the history of Hayes County, we're going to have to do another slide of how you work, what we need for the next stand of year.

4889
06:45:12,520 --> 06:45:18,180
I'm just speaking, the thing that I'm supposed to say is that particularly the FN-150 quarter

4890
06:45:18,180 --> 06:45:24,080
study, the foresight of this court has already got us in the previous state, and no one

4891
06:45:24,080 --> 06:45:29,360
ever intended to take that to full certain direction and a period that would probably

4892
06:45:29,360 --> 06:45:30,760
less than 15 or 20 years.

4893
06:45:30,760 --> 06:45:36,880
And the point is that these are the immediate roads, but the next thought process is going

4894
06:45:36,880 --> 06:45:39,540
to the 20, 25 years.

4895
06:45:39,660 --> 06:45:43,160
I mean, like 20, 20, 40, 20, 40, 20, 40 play.

4896
06:45:43,340 --> 06:45:45,240
You know, they're looking out to say,

4897
06:45:45,340 --> 06:45:47,600
once you're going to be like in 15 to 20 years,

4898
06:45:48,040 --> 06:45:49,220
and that's what we're going to have to do

4899
06:45:49,220 --> 06:45:50,740
as a county at some point.

4900
06:45:51,080 --> 06:45:53,620
But to get it five, to get us to that point

4901
06:45:53,620 --> 06:45:56,680
and I believe the county's schedule is here.

4902
06:45:57,740 --> 06:46:00,680
When we updated our trespass plan accepted

4903
06:46:00,680 --> 06:46:02,120
as in 2012, that's right.

4904
06:46:03,340 --> 06:46:03,640
2013.

4905
06:46:04,160 --> 06:46:06,280
So in 2018, well, we were looking at in 2017.

4906
06:46:07,060 --> 06:46:14,800
And then we continue as Commissioner stated to look at different roadways from different parts of the counties in different forms.

4907
06:46:14,940 --> 06:46:18,700
They're all in different forms of bought and planning and everything else.

4908
06:46:19,020 --> 06:46:25,860
I mean, this kind of argument of this either or that you can't walk and chew gum at the same time is just ridiculous.

4909
06:46:26,500 --> 06:46:31,680
I mean, we have many things going on in this county, but many things going on in the region.

4910
06:46:33,140 --> 06:46:40,940
And sometimes those relate, and sometimes they don't relate, and they're not always connected.

4911
06:46:41,180 --> 06:46:41,980
Sometimes they are.

4912
06:46:42,060 --> 06:46:44,400
It all depends on the subject and what you're talking about.

4913
06:46:49,280 --> 06:46:50,200
Yes, please.

4914
06:46:52,880 --> 06:46:54,720
You've been very patient to sit here and listen.

4915
06:46:56,460 --> 06:46:59,720
That's the job you're paying me to do it, so I guess I'll have to.

4916
06:46:59,720 --> 06:47:02,100
Well, we'll cut that off too, okay.

4917
06:47:04,700 --> 06:47:09,620
When Mark brought up the low water crossing in Bridge Fund and not naming it, the difference

4918
06:47:09,620 --> 06:47:15,080
that would make just a quite a little bit because I think it's kind of lost in the weeds there.

4919
06:47:15,800 --> 06:47:21,360
If he doesn't, if we don't specifically spell out the low water in Bridge, we'll be waiting

4920
06:47:21,360 --> 06:47:24,900
on every other project that we've named to do that too.

4921
06:47:24,900 --> 06:47:29,600
So, as a matter of important to the county and public safety,

4922
06:47:30,700 --> 06:47:32,900
having to wait five to six years

4923
06:47:32,900 --> 06:47:35,140
for all these other projects to be complete,

4924
06:47:35,560 --> 06:47:37,060
before we could work on the water,

4925
06:47:37,400 --> 06:47:40,880
would be so planning, so I agree with that.

4926
06:47:40,900 --> 06:47:42,420
Thank you for bringing that up, Adam.

4927
06:47:43,640 --> 06:47:44,080
I...

4928
06:47:44,080 --> 06:47:45,340
Well, I counsel less.

4929
06:47:46,240 --> 06:47:47,120
I can...

4930
06:47:47,120 --> 06:47:48,120
He'll be better.

4931
06:47:48,300 --> 06:47:49,260
Well, he needs to...

4932
06:47:49,260 --> 06:47:50,860
I think he needs to drink a water or something.

4933
06:47:51,600 --> 06:47:52,240
He's in there talking.

4934
06:47:54,440 --> 06:47:54,880
The...

4935
06:47:54,880 --> 06:48:01,600
We could address this issue, quote by putting kind of a catch all under that of county roads.

4936
06:48:02,180 --> 06:48:02,840
Maybe that way.

4937
06:48:02,840 --> 06:48:03,700
And I just gave you one.

4938
06:48:03,840 --> 06:48:06,460
You presented up here in that bottom yellow part.

4939
06:48:06,680 --> 06:48:10,020
It had low water profits specifically spelled out.

4940
06:48:10,180 --> 06:48:10,340
Yes.

4941
06:48:10,500 --> 06:48:11,560
It doesn't make it to the language.

4942
06:48:11,980 --> 06:48:12,940
You know, it did.

4943
06:48:13,640 --> 06:48:17,220
But, but what Adam is rightfully pointing out,

4944
06:48:17,440 --> 06:48:22,000
because we've listed mostly his roadways in the bucket.

4945
06:48:22,000 --> 06:48:30,820
So, we don't want to be held up to improve a Mount Gator lower cost or the 10,000 commissioners

4946
06:48:30,820 --> 06:48:36,520
be in Commissioner Jones have in the 5,000 that are in precinct 3.

4947
06:48:37,520 --> 06:48:41,180
You don't want to be held back and again back to walking and showing them the same time

4948
06:48:41,180 --> 06:48:46,220
to be able to do and make these improvements a while still doing these.

4949
06:48:46,560 --> 06:48:51,980
And I would believe you could put a kind of a catch all phrase for the county road system.

4950
06:48:51,980 --> 06:48:57,500
them on there. That would address all our low-water areas and within the county

4951
06:48:57,500 --> 06:49:03,160
road system, but we have to ask them. Mark about that.

4952
06:49:06,080 --> 06:49:14,150
Would you ask softly to step in and build a piece of it? He's going ahead of this one.

4953
06:49:14,390 --> 06:49:18,390
I think I've got another bottle of purple, local, whatever that is he's drinking.

4954
06:49:19,990 --> 06:49:26,130
So I'm Mark. I think the court shares and Adam shares. I wrote corporate shares.

4955
06:49:26,910 --> 06:49:33,410
It's a legitimate concern that you've properly identified about the bucket of low water

4956
06:49:33,410 --> 06:49:41,230
processing and in some of the restrictions could an idea that we had was, could we address

4957
06:49:41,230 --> 06:49:46,930
that issue by putting a catch-all phrase in there about the county road system, just though

4958
06:49:46,930 --> 06:49:51,750
in the county road system, in other words, when trying to say we can go do low water improvements

4959
06:49:51,750 --> 06:49:53,510
anywhere on the county road system.

4960
06:49:53,510 --> 06:49:59,990
Condense, that's right, that's right, I mean I'd have been clear, but when I was so

4961
06:50:00,000 --> 06:50:10,800
So you have the things that can be done in aid of poor and supportive road projects, and that's the language that's up above your name roadways.

4962
06:50:11,040 --> 06:50:19,080
You can see that the kinds of things that you can do in aid of that are a number of things wrapped up in that.

4963
06:50:19,240 --> 06:50:25,940
You have drainage and water crossing improvements, environmental mitigation, et cetera.

4964
06:50:25,940 --> 06:50:32,380
Right? Now, when I was saying what you can pull the bucket down, you have money that you're

4965
06:50:32,380 --> 06:50:37,700
allocating to a bucket that is low water crossings and drainage. It's actually been

4966
06:50:37,700 --> 06:50:43,480
intermingled now that there's 22 million 500,000 wrapped up in one big bucket that includes

4967
06:50:44,080 --> 06:50:50,160
that. You can pull that down and name it specifically like you've named a roadway. And when you do that,

4968
06:50:51,140 --> 06:50:55,860
you've given yourself the ability to go out and use bond money on low water crossings.

4969
06:50:55,940 --> 06:51:03,400
county-wide and you can do that. Well, I had to craft that language, but that was what I was suggesting earlier

4970
06:51:04,860 --> 06:51:12,680
for perhaps drainage in a lot of crossings and perhaps for pedestrian and bicycle pathways.

4971
06:51:14,300 --> 06:51:18,980
If you're saying the introductory language in property,

4972
06:51:19,020 --> 06:51:23,820
covers that are we need to answer things to cover that. If you want to do that kind of work

4973
06:51:23,820 --> 06:51:30,440
on an unnamed project, then the language we have in there right now won't cover an unnamed project

4974
06:51:30,440 --> 06:51:34,660
until you've completed the named projects and you understand what I mean by completed.

4975
06:51:35,300 --> 06:51:40,580
So, can you believe we can create language on the county road system and I think that's all we're talking about.

4976
06:51:40,580 --> 06:51:41,860
Yes, it started about, right?

4977
06:51:42,420 --> 06:51:42,580
Sure.

4978
06:51:42,820 --> 06:51:44,200
That addresses that issue.

4979
06:51:45,080 --> 06:51:45,820
But we can.

4980
06:51:45,840 --> 06:51:48,420
We can't do local projects at the same time.

4981
06:51:48,820 --> 06:51:56,580
That's, you could do that. They won after issuance. It could be the first project up where we'll prove what we're saying is we don't want to be limited.

4982
06:51:57,440 --> 06:52:00,120
You can use that money that is why it's possible.

4983
06:52:01,160 --> 06:52:04,440
Right. And that project held up just because of timing.

4984
06:52:06,860 --> 06:52:07,860
So they changed the position.

4985
06:52:09,220 --> 06:52:11,140
Such a nice suggestion to take another recess.

4986
06:52:11,580 --> 06:52:11,600
Thank you.

4987
06:52:13,360 --> 06:52:13,880
But

4988
06:52:14,680 --> 06:52:19,040
There's a big deal of pressure to the device of power, of course, to check that out.

4989
06:52:19,620 --> 06:52:21,460
I mean, whatever.

4990
06:52:22,080 --> 06:52:23,580
That's what we need to do.

4991
06:52:23,960 --> 06:52:24,660
That's what we need to do.

4992
06:52:24,880 --> 06:52:26,760
That's what we need to do.

4993
06:52:26,760 --> 06:52:27,800
We need to do this.

4994
06:52:28,100 --> 06:52:28,100
Okay,

4995
06:52:32,750 --> 06:52:37,290
we're back from the work session on the ballot and the proposition.

4996
06:52:38,450 --> 06:52:39,570
So Julie, you have the floor.

4997
06:52:40,950 --> 06:52:45,490
Okay, so what we've been working on so far is the proposition-like way.

4998
06:52:45,490 --> 06:52:53,430
The proposition is part of the order and the election, the total election order is what

4999
06:52:53,430 --> 06:52:59,770
needs to ultimately be approved by the court if that's what you order the election.

5000
06:53:00,110 --> 06:53:03,790
You have to approve the whole order of the election.

5001
06:53:04,530 --> 06:53:09,510
But we've been working on so far, it's been components of that order, so that order is

5002
06:53:09,510 --> 06:53:15,910
of this proposition and stay to all control what has to be proposition has been

5003
06:53:15,910 --> 06:53:22,650
purpose, the maturity, the interest rate and security. So, mainly what we have been

5004
06:53:22,650 --> 06:53:27,050
working on here is the purpose language. There are 30 years in there that is provided

5005
06:53:27,050 --> 06:53:31,930
idea. I was like, no, you're a financial advisor. So, that information came from hand.

5006
06:53:31,930 --> 06:53:41,050
The other part of the order is setting up your early voting and your election tables and so you

5007
06:53:41,050 --> 06:53:45,590
proof that earlier we have now crossed in the voting location and so order.

5008
06:53:46,390 --> 06:53:50,010
And then there are some sections in there that are part of Chapter 3.

5009
06:53:50,250 --> 06:53:54,510
So let's go on transparency and I believe that.

5010
06:53:55,110 --> 06:54:00,930
Julie, if you don't mind for the public, you mind taking a seat and speaking in one of those

5011
06:54:00,930 --> 06:54:04,270
or go to the podium, whatever you're comfortable doing.

5012
06:54:04,810 --> 06:54:05,590
Thank you.

5013
06:54:12,220 --> 06:54:13,880
It's Section 8.

5014
06:54:14,560 --> 06:54:19,380
Is the section that is required by Chapter 3 of the election code?

5015
06:54:19,540 --> 06:54:22,420
And that's the section that has the information

5016
06:54:22,420 --> 06:54:25,100
on kind of the greater transparency.

5017
06:54:25,740 --> 06:54:28,140
So it will list what the counties,

5018
06:54:28,440 --> 06:54:31,440
outstanding long-term debt obligations are.

5019
06:54:31,440 --> 06:54:37,440
the interest that's associated with that, and your current interest in thinking fun

5020
06:54:38,340 --> 06:54:49,180
Tax rate, the rate that's not not your own end, but just the portion that is attached to your debt, so all of that is in here and

5021
06:54:49,180 --> 06:54:59,900
becomes part of this order, but what we need everyone here to decide on and work on is the proposition in the ballot language kind of finalize that

5022
06:55:00,300 --> 06:55:06,580
So, I think you have another draft now on the proposition language?

5023
06:55:09,250 --> 06:55:09,750
Yes.

5024
06:55:11,770 --> 06:55:12,930
And have we prepared?

5025
06:55:14,270 --> 06:55:16,450
But we still need to look at the ballot language?

5026
06:55:16,670 --> 06:55:18,430
Just don't need to work on ballot language, okay?

5027
06:55:30,700 --> 06:55:39,420
So, Court, just to focus you on a few things, Commissioner Ingles, we have included all of your edits from

5028
06:55:39,420 --> 06:55:42,420
your commentary before we adjourned.

5029
06:55:43,620 --> 06:55:46,380
Our question was not that included also the intersections.

5030
06:55:48,620 --> 06:55:49,540
We have also

5031
06:55:52,390 --> 06:55:56,490
modified slightly in order to make room for the

5032
06:55:57,750 --> 06:55:58,930
state match bucket.

5033
06:56:03,690 --> 06:56:07,550
We've indicated that we would improve county roads,

5034
06:56:07,790 --> 06:56:11,230
or county road connectors specifically to include,

5035
06:56:11,510 --> 06:56:12,390
but not limited to.

5036
06:56:12,390 --> 06:56:19,390
and then named them, and then, further down and before the state roads,

5037
06:56:22,880 --> 06:56:23,780
which would be

5038
06:56:30,730 --> 06:56:31,550
defined

5039
06:56:37,370 --> 06:56:44,750
after the Darden Hill Road language, you'll see the same language repeated again,

5040
06:56:45,590 --> 06:56:47,910
but related to state roads in highways,

5041
06:56:51,300 --> 06:56:56,900
specifically to include, but not limited to, and then naming

5042
06:56:56,900 --> 06:56:59,720
the road projects we know of currently.

5043
06:57:02,080 --> 06:57:10,580
There is this bucket that we highlighted on the projector earlier that would include some

5044
06:57:10,580 --> 06:57:14,160
money that are available for State Matt should the opportunity to rise.

5045
06:57:15,500 --> 06:57:21,520
We believe that could be spent that way because of this language.

5046
06:57:22,560 --> 06:57:26,180
Then, after the roadways are specified,

5047
06:57:28,260 --> 06:57:32,980
you have the buckets and that is starting after

5048
06:57:32,980 --> 06:57:38,780
reference to Henry Loop Commissioner, which is part of the US-290 references.

5049
06:57:39,760 --> 06:57:44,700
You see the buckets drainage and water crossing improvements associated with county road system

5050
06:57:44,700 --> 06:57:53,600
roadways, comma environmental mitigation, and conservation in aid of roads, that has always

5051
06:57:53,600 --> 06:57:59,020
been the case that since this is a transportation bond, those kinds of monies need to be spent

5052
06:57:59,020 --> 06:57:59,760
in aid of roads.

5053
06:57:59,900 --> 06:58:06,000
What we've felt necessary to specify it, and then pedestrian walkway and bicycle transportation

5054
06:58:06,000 --> 06:58:07,400
related to roads.

5055
06:58:07,400 --> 06:58:16,980
So we've pulled those buckets down so that they could then be utilized for projects other

5056
06:58:16,980 --> 06:58:20,980
than projects associated with the name Brodo's only.

5057
06:58:24,360 --> 06:58:34,660
The highlighted yellow was something that Ron Shell added to the limited work that we could

5058
06:58:34,660 --> 06:58:36,220
do on the accepted roadways.

5059
06:58:36,220 --> 06:58:37,320
No

5060
06:58:40,490 --> 06:58:45,570
one that there might be some environmental mitigation or conservation associated with those

5061
06:58:45,570 --> 06:58:54,010
roadways that we will not be doing any expanded capacity work on judge to use your turn.

5062
06:58:54,330 --> 06:58:55,050
There you go.

5063
06:58:57,710 --> 06:59:05,130
And see that also gives us a little wiggle room so if we have a funded project with an all of a sudden

5064
06:59:05,130 --> 06:59:12,270
environmental impact study says you got to do that and that will allow us to take care of that so the

5065
06:59:12,270 --> 06:59:20,450
project that we're seeing to the end. So we're trying to have those funds available so we can use them

5066
06:59:20,450 --> 06:59:25,950
appropriately when we need them. That's what our tent was Julie.

5067
06:59:30,000 --> 06:59:31,700
So being reading it critically

5068
06:59:32,860 --> 06:59:36,460
commissioners and see if it says what you wanted to say

5069
06:59:47,410 --> 06:59:50,570
included in the packet that you gave me was

5070
06:59:50,570 --> 06:59:57,130
Was a list of the voting dates for early voting location of the polls, which is also part of the packet

5071
06:59:57,850 --> 06:59:59,930
So yes judge that's part of the order

5072
07:00:00,000 --> 07:00:16,160
As Julie indicated that the next task at hand would be to work on the ballot language, and maybe we need to wait a minute to finish the conversation with the proposition language, the formal proposition language,

5073
07:00:18,300 --> 07:00:26,600
but there are additional pages. I've only provided the first two pages just for the purposes of commentary and editing.

5074
07:00:26,600 --> 07:00:27,100
Yes.

5075
07:00:27,780 --> 07:00:31,700
The edited were restricted to this first page in propositions.

5076
07:00:32,140 --> 07:00:34,100
Jerry, I'll see if I can put you down.

5077
07:00:51,740 --> 07:01:00,140
In the wordsmithing of the ballot needs to be clear, but it cannot be a repetition.

5078
07:01:00,460 --> 07:01:06,080
It needs to have the half points of the proposition, so that the voter doesn't read the proposition

5079
07:01:06,080 --> 07:01:08,420
can say, I know what I've voted for.

5080
07:01:09,180 --> 07:01:14,580
which would simply be at the basically the list of roads to that, right?

5081
07:01:15,140 --> 07:01:25,220
It can be Julie and I have some reservations about including every named roadway on the ballot

5082
07:01:25,220 --> 07:01:30,660
just because I think it would be confusing and lengthy and the proposition language is available.

5083
07:01:33,230 --> 07:01:39,310
So I guess the question is how do you balance the very detailed description we're providing

5084
07:01:39,310 --> 07:01:47,370
in the long language now with any efficiency on the ballot and so a desire not to confuse.

5085
07:01:48,430 --> 07:01:49,890
So don't want to be confusing.

5086
07:01:52,170 --> 07:01:59,810
So like, for example, take a Cardi-Rode, for example, there's a specific scope of a

5087
07:01:59,810 --> 07:02:05,570
from Hunter Road to I-35. Could you on the on the bout proposition?

5088
07:02:09,760 --> 07:02:10,600
Could you just say

5089
07:02:10,600 --> 07:02:16,640
McCarty Road? You know I, is that where you're worried about catching this? This is the

5090
07:02:16,640 --> 07:02:23,520
broadness, I mean the, a bit being too long. I guess what would be confusing about, and I don't

5091
07:02:23,520 --> 07:02:24,980
know let me find the,

5092
07:02:27,850 --> 07:02:31,870
so the way this was originally written, the assurance what would be in front

5093
07:02:31,870 --> 07:02:36,430
of the voter, the issuance of bonds in the amount of acts to pay for constructing improving

5094
07:02:36,430 --> 07:02:40,790
county roads in state highway, strange improvements in environmental mitigation, you know,

5095
07:02:40,850 --> 07:02:44,350
walkways, et cetera, et cetera, transportation, because relating to the roadways and

5096
07:02:44,350 --> 07:02:48,450
highway of lower crossings, you know, so you're making those broad deals, and then just

5097
07:02:48,450 --> 07:02:56,330
list what was, what was here. That sounds, that sounds long, but it doesn't sound confusing

5098
07:02:56,330 --> 07:03:01,490
to me. I am, it, it's just, if I'm understanding you credit, it just

5099
07:03:01,490 --> 07:03:08,230
efforts that was improving sections of just kind of a very general to improving and you

5100
07:03:08,230 --> 07:03:13,670
could go to the proposition to kind of see exactly what those improvements in tail.

5101
07:03:14,250 --> 07:03:17,930
Yes, I think that's certainly a start.

5102
07:03:18,610 --> 07:03:21,730
Sections of county roads and or state highways,

5103
07:03:25,820 --> 07:03:29,700
after improving the proposition, I'm sorry

5104
07:03:29,700 --> 07:03:33,160
you could say as delineated in the proposition because

5105
07:03:35,750 --> 07:03:37,090
otherwise you might as well just print

5106
07:03:37,090 --> 07:03:40,970
propositions is the ballot, which is...

5107
07:03:40,970 --> 07:03:46,330
Well, I think what I'm hearing is maybe not get into all the detail that it's improvements

5108
07:03:46,330 --> 07:03:53,310
at specific intersections, or on specific sections, but just a laundry list of all the

5109
07:03:53,310 --> 07:03:58,410
roads that are going to have something done to this.

5110
07:03:58,690 --> 07:04:02,010
What about the Budnaut line, which has now gotten length here?

5111
07:04:06,330 --> 07:04:12,510
I think that's confusing on the proposition in the ballot box.

5112
07:04:13,590 --> 07:04:27,450
I'd like us to, if we're able to take that stuff off, if you won't, and just leave that in the main legal binding piece of it.

5113
07:04:27,450 --> 07:04:29,990
in the proposition. Thank you, right.

5114
07:04:30,170 --> 07:04:34,950
I mean, that we can add some of these details.

5115
07:04:35,750 --> 07:04:39,950
You got it here. It's not that you take out all the restrictive stuff.

5116
07:04:40,310 --> 07:04:45,610
It's not that vague. That way people understand the scope and understand what

5117
07:04:45,610 --> 07:04:50,950
roads and you don't have to put all the other stuff in there and it should keep it manageable.

5118
07:04:52,550 --> 07:04:55,050
It looks that way from here.

5119
07:04:56,270 --> 07:04:59,630
What do you think about putting the pracing that it's in?

5120
07:05:00,500 --> 07:05:07,560
Because people are going to always say, what's in this for me and so, say, please say, three, oh, yeah, we're getting this road.

5121
07:05:07,760 --> 07:05:11,400
I'm just proof that it may not even know what precinct will again. That's the other problem.

5122
07:05:12,300 --> 07:05:18,500
I think, I think, I think we don't have to have in what's in the ballot box.

5123
07:05:18,800 --> 07:05:24,200
What's in the ballot box? I don't think we need, for example,

5124
07:05:27,760 --> 07:05:30,200
when you look at where it says,

5125
07:05:35,580 --> 07:05:41,320
It says where it says restricted to the current F and 150 at a Roya Ranch Road, construction

5126
07:05:41,320 --> 07:05:45,600
of turn lines, ride away preservation, intersection of trimester safety permits, a whole

5127
07:05:45,600 --> 07:05:56,390
one that did it done, then you get into the last core piece of what is in the more detailed

5128
07:05:56,390 --> 07:06:02,530
description of proposition two, trying to find where it starts, is what I'm

5129
07:06:02,530 --> 07:06:03,950
telling the hard time finding this.

5130
07:06:08,810 --> 07:06:11,730
Where it says the improvement of the following roadwise, except for shoulder

5131
07:06:11,730 --> 07:06:12,490
improvements,

5132
07:06:14,730 --> 07:06:17,750
the LC where I'm looking at now, or it says shoulder, about the quarter

5133
07:06:17,750 --> 07:06:21,590
of the paper, quarter from the bottom, or it says shoulder improvements, turn lines

5134
07:06:21,590 --> 07:06:24,530
in bottom on mitigation conservation, part of it, you know, for these sections

5135
07:06:24,530 --> 07:06:30,630
a roadways, as what is restricted and limited to, I don't think that needs to be in the

5136
07:06:30,630 --> 07:06:31,130
balance box.

5137
07:06:31,270 --> 07:06:33,070
I think that would be confusing.

5138
07:06:34,490 --> 07:06:40,850
But I don't see why we couldn't put, as you have written here, the issuance of bonds in

5139
07:06:40,850 --> 07:06:47,430
the amount of acts covered these first few, you know, these general drop broad descriptions

5140
07:06:47,430 --> 07:06:57,820
or transportation and then list out basically what is on the list here.

5141
07:06:58,180 --> 07:07:02,220
And I'm open for ideas and different opinions.

5142
07:07:02,860 --> 07:07:04,440
I would be clear then.

5143
07:07:04,440 --> 07:07:08,120
from 1-10 at S-H-1-23 intersection in Primus,

5144
07:07:08,120 --> 07:07:10,540
FM-621, 17 in Primus.

5145
07:07:12,820 --> 07:07:15,240
Health side term, 17 in Primus and Roddenway,

5146
07:07:15,420 --> 07:07:17,640
Fisher's Store at RM-2625,

5147
07:07:17,960 --> 07:07:18,480
16 in Primus.

5148
07:07:18,920 --> 07:07:20,960
In fact, that's something that you know,

5149
07:07:21,020 --> 07:07:25,940
public even if they haven't been very engaged and involved

5150
07:07:27,020 --> 07:07:30,780
in and the literature, the educational literature,

5151
07:07:30,920 --> 07:07:32,700
that the county has sent out.

5152
07:07:32,700 --> 07:07:39,760
I mean, that's pretty black and white, you can understand that I am voting on an intersection

5153
07:07:39,760 --> 07:07:54,780
in prison at FM2325 in the picture store road, there are a mile, guys, so can we

5154
07:07:57,340 --> 07:07:58,140
understand

5155
07:07:58,140 --> 07:07:58,800
what I'm saying to you?

5156
07:07:58,800 --> 07:07:59,280
generally.

5157
07:08:03,440 --> 07:08:10,380
I think I understand that you don't want to get into describing specific sections

5158
07:08:10,380 --> 07:08:16,520
of roadways and it's possible that you'd like to name the roadways to be improved. It's

5159
07:08:16,520 --> 07:08:22,840
also possible that you could leave that the long language as well and simply name improvements

5160
07:08:22,840 --> 07:08:29,260
to and Julie, I don't know how often you've tried to do this for the proposition language

5161
07:08:29,260 --> 07:08:36,660
is utterly specific, but the ballot language is very general, but I would think that you

5162
07:08:36,660 --> 07:08:43,440
could say certain described county roads, county road connectors and or state highways, and

5163
07:08:43,440 --> 07:08:44,400
leave it at that.

5164
07:08:44,400 --> 07:08:45,980
You could be that great.

5165
07:08:45,980 --> 07:08:49,100
I guess what we try to accomplish by that.

5166
07:08:49,780 --> 07:08:49,780
Well,

5167
07:08:52,790 --> 07:08:55,150
I guess I'm trying to give you an option.

5168
07:08:55,310 --> 07:08:56,390
You asked for the options.

5169
07:08:56,670 --> 07:09:02,390
I'm trying to give you an option that would result in quite a short ballot proposition item.

5170
07:09:03,210 --> 07:09:03,450
Okay.

5171
07:09:03,930 --> 07:09:11,030
I would probably say including, including, but not limited to certain designated county roads,

5172
07:09:11,030 --> 07:09:17,190
county road system, or county road connectors, and or state highways, with a limitation

5173
07:09:17,190 --> 07:09:23,710
on other described roadways or something like that effect, I mean indicating that there

5174
07:09:23,710 --> 07:09:30,410
is a limitation to placing on some of these improvements. In other words, you've probably

5175
07:09:30,410 --> 07:09:36,050
described the projects that you detailed in your proposition in the long language, you've

5176
07:09:36,050 --> 07:09:44,730
them in five or six lines, as opposed to, I don't know how many it will take, but 30, or so.

5177
07:09:44,870 --> 07:09:48,910
You know, one thing I've been pressing on, in fact, I'm losing, I'm not saying it's just

5178
07:09:48,910 --> 07:09:56,210
a blow of smoke, which I'll do a really good job of merging pictures with words, I'll

5179
07:09:56,210 --> 07:09:58,390
the US, the US, the US, the US.

5180
07:09:58,610 --> 07:09:59,950
And that's really, really, it's sort of...

5181
07:10:00,000 --> 07:10:12,620
It's a really good way to teach as people for us. So if you could help us simply by saying, you know, with great deliberation with the spending time to try to be as clear as possible, this is what you're trying to do.

5182
07:10:13,140 --> 07:10:23,220
If you could, if you could do that for us, I would really appreciate that, because most people would read your newspaper, it's even free.

5183
07:10:23,220 --> 07:10:26,460
I mean, that's the easiest part of it, that's the easiest part.

5184
07:10:26,940 --> 07:10:32,640
I really love the way you do think you're new because it's clear to me, to even me.

5185
07:10:33,520 --> 07:10:33,520
So,

5186
07:10:36,040 --> 07:10:40,240
hopefully, you can get to know that we're not trying to do anything untoward.

5187
07:10:40,460 --> 07:10:44,300
We're trying to be as clear as possible for the voters out there.

5188
07:10:44,860 --> 07:10:49,000
And you can be our greatest asset to educate the voters.

5189
07:10:50,460 --> 07:10:56,240
Because that's one of our great difficulties, educating the voters in this county because it's still hard to get the word out.

5190
07:10:59,480 --> 07:11:04,560
But the ballot should be in my eyes, it should be not a repetition of the proposition.

5191
07:11:05,200 --> 07:11:06,700
It should be the same as once.

5192
07:11:07,400 --> 07:11:10,300
So that person could say, I know enough to make a good decision.

5193
07:11:11,260 --> 07:11:17,640
In the first part of this proposition, really is the ballot telling you what you're about to do.

5194
07:11:17,640 --> 07:11:25,120
Then you get very specific, when I, when I vote on a proposition, seldom have I read the proposition.

5195
07:11:25,900 --> 07:11:26,180
It's true.

5196
07:11:26,320 --> 07:11:27,780
I've kind of skimmed it, maybe.

5197
07:11:28,520 --> 07:11:31,580
But I want to know what I need to know in that.

5198
07:11:31,660 --> 07:11:35,000
And that's why the violence is smithing is so important.

5199
07:11:36,820 --> 07:11:39,100
Because most people read in the same level.

5200
07:11:39,800 --> 07:11:43,460
So they're not going to spend a lot of time thinking about it.

5201
07:11:43,900 --> 07:11:46,160
They probably weren't made up their mind for the gift there.

5202
07:11:46,160 --> 07:11:49,800
by Franklin, especially on the bond issues.

5203
07:11:51,920 --> 07:11:55,300
So I thank y'all to worry about the wrong things there.

5204
07:11:55,440 --> 07:11:58,940
I think we need to make it curse and clear.

5205
07:12:01,080 --> 07:12:04,400
And now we're going to have a great deal of work ahead

5206
07:12:04,400 --> 07:12:08,500
of us to educate the public and hold public meetings and explain it.

5207
07:12:09,620 --> 07:12:09,940
And all that.

5208
07:12:10,300 --> 07:12:12,740
And this proposition will be our opposite.

5209
07:12:12,840 --> 07:12:13,160
Nice.

5210
07:12:13,160 --> 07:12:14,180
It's for exactly.

5211
07:12:14,180 --> 07:12:21,300
And I think if we can meet with people and go through this proposition, line by line, as individual

5212
07:12:21,300 --> 07:12:21,940
researchers.

5213
07:12:24,080 --> 07:12:26,000
And our goal is not to hide anything.

5214
07:12:26,300 --> 07:12:29,060
We need to know whether that's the basis for us to explain the balance.

5215
07:12:31,020 --> 07:12:38,860
So, where is the court agreement that we should list out those roadways and scopes of those projects,

5216
07:12:39,180 --> 07:12:41,820
not putting all the restrictive language in there?

5217
07:12:41,820 --> 07:12:50,780
But the negativity of the mock, like the people's eyes clout over, that should be in the proposition of not in the ballot of my opinion.

5218
07:12:51,220 --> 07:12:53,020
You know, I think we should say in the same state.

5219
07:12:53,620 --> 07:12:58,100
So that's the question is to sling which that's been presented.

5220
07:12:58,720 --> 07:13:02,520
Towards the end, we actually start mentioning roads.

5221
07:13:02,520 --> 07:13:06,800
Yeah, sections of, basically, center point, hillside terrace,

5222
07:13:07,100 --> 07:13:07,940
lawn kiln, et cetera.

5223
07:13:08,700 --> 07:13:12,540
Do you want us to add to that list of roads every road that we have mentioned,

5224
07:13:13,380 --> 07:13:17,640
somewhere in the proposition, or do you want us to not mention any roads,

5225
07:13:17,640 --> 07:13:20,420
or do you want us to only mention certain highlighted roads?

5226
07:13:20,520 --> 07:13:25,600
I think, I think, so that we got everything, everything, a little bit,

5227
07:13:25,880 --> 07:13:28,580
or you can say county and state roads, period, that's everything.

5228
07:13:29,020 --> 07:13:33,520
Or you can say you can name a few or you can not name or you can name all of them

5229
07:13:33,520 --> 07:13:38,400
I don't see the purpose of naming if I think naming a few is confusing to a comment

5230
07:13:38,400 --> 07:13:40,280
Yeah, they were saying well, where's mine?

5231
07:13:40,680 --> 07:13:42,720
Well, yeah, I mean, well, I thought this

5232
07:13:42,720 --> 07:13:43,540
You know

5233
07:13:43,540 --> 07:13:45,720
Big deal, you just been all that money. I don't want to row

5234
07:13:45,720 --> 07:13:49,060
We'll tell me that that 2325. It has an improvement on it

5235
07:13:49,060 --> 07:13:52,260
I don't see 2325 on here. Why why is it a long term?

5236
07:13:52,900 --> 07:13:57,520
So use it. I think you either keep all of that in and I'm on for all

5237
07:13:58,600 --> 07:14:03,080
That's I'm I'm I'm for all but I think I've made that clear so the court needs to decide

5238
07:14:03,780 --> 07:14:06,120
That I think the ballot yes, sir

5239
07:14:07,280 --> 07:14:09,020
Not describing sections

5240
07:14:09,780 --> 07:14:15,560
This is the list a laundry list something to happen to this road somewhere on this road

5241
07:14:15,560 --> 07:14:19,200
Yeah, including but not limited to now again again

5242
07:14:19,200 --> 07:14:24,600
And I'm not trying I don't I don't want to be pesky here, but but again you come all year

5243
07:14:25,560 --> 07:14:31,500
No, we do, but the, I mean, we're describing the limitations here.

5244
07:14:31,680 --> 07:14:35,560
This is a book that bad. That's not that bad. I mean, look at it. It is like,

5245
07:14:35,560 --> 07:14:37,480
even a whole page here.

5246
07:14:37,900 --> 07:14:39,860
I don't know the string on the phone booth.

5247
07:14:40,180 --> 07:14:40,200
Yeah.

5248
07:14:42,340 --> 07:14:43,680
I don't know what these King did.

5249
07:14:44,000 --> 07:14:45,260
That's not something I can get joy.

5250
07:14:45,780 --> 07:14:46,820
That's not what I can get joy. It's not what I can get joy.

5251
07:14:47,000 --> 07:14:48,980
It's not what I can get joy. It's what we can have alive. This is what I have.

5252
07:14:49,120 --> 07:14:50,040
That's what I have here.

5253
07:14:50,740 --> 07:14:54,500
I mean, I mean, I mean, so, so can just as an example,

5254
07:14:54,500 --> 07:14:58,520
So, you know, McCoy wrote from, from 235.

5255
07:15:00,000 --> 07:15:05,180
aand the carty road or carty with un35, has not that much. That's funny that much.

5256
07:15:06,280 --> 07:15:06,760
so,

5257
07:15:09,000 --> 07:15:10,360
you know, now I got my my pay is clear.

5258
07:15:10,580 --> 07:15:16,140
But I don't think you partially do it.

5259
07:15:16,140 --> 07:15:18,120
He's a corner of the NBC.

5260
07:15:18,440 --> 07:15:19,280
I think has a What do you mean?

5261
07:15:19,420 --> 07:15:19,620
The people.

5262
07:15:19,780 --> 07:15:21,740
I think not a bloody neat thing on there.

5263
07:15:23,240 --> 07:15:23,980
Is, uh.

5264
07:15:25,280 --> 07:15:26,780
It's way too broad to know.

5265
07:15:26,940 --> 07:15:27,780
You can say he's.

5266
07:15:27,880 --> 07:15:28,260
He's just, he's just, he's wa-

5267
07:15:28,260 --> 07:15:30,280
Just listed, and the alleviate control,

5268
07:15:30,520 --> 07:15:32,360
published for more than 10,000,ieni 40115,

5269
07:15:32,660 --> 07:15:33,060
within World of.

5270
07:15:33,060 --> 07:15:34,120
Without any more of a party,

5271
07:15:34,640 --> 07:15:35,380
you know, all the ballad,

5272
07:15:35,440 --> 07:15:36,400
and that not fi-

5273
07:15:36,400 --> 07:15:38,320
We were going to go in the backroom

5274
07:15:38,320 --> 07:15:40,760
and come up with a short ballot.

5275
07:15:42,120 --> 07:15:44,320
Not, uh, for relatively short ballot.

5276
07:15:44,440 --> 07:15:45,240
That includes

5277
07:15:45,240 --> 07:15:50,240
reference to each of them. And then we'll pass the entire package correct?

5278
07:15:51,160 --> 07:15:51,900
Yeah, we'll be able to.

5279
07:15:51,940 --> 07:15:54,960
You'll be able to hear from other people.

5280
07:15:55,020 --> 07:15:55,460
Very good.

5281
07:15:56,200 --> 07:15:56,380
No.

5282
07:15:57,060 --> 07:16:03,720
We also want to make reference though, but not to include improvements to.

5283
07:16:04,720 --> 07:16:07,300
Generally, we've got that in the proper position.

5284
07:16:08,920 --> 07:16:10,980
I think that's confusing.

5285
07:16:11,460 --> 07:16:11,880
I agree.

5286
07:16:17,700 --> 07:16:20,280
Okay, back. Go to your job.

5287
07:16:25,580 --> 07:16:28,140
Mark, I think what we're saying is not to list everything.

5288
07:16:32,340 --> 07:16:32,780
Okay,

5289
07:16:36,680 --> 07:16:38,560
we're back in session for Mark.

5290
07:16:41,640 --> 07:16:49,060
I just didn't get the ballot at this time for a proposition 1 and 2, we've been spending

5291
07:16:49,060 --> 07:16:53,480
a great deal of time, perfecting the ballot, and the language of the ballot.

5292
07:16:57,980 --> 07:17:04,600
The court, please look over this ballot that CQ can agree that this is the appropriate

5293
07:17:04,600 --> 07:17:13,920
pallet meets the needs of the voter, the issuance of bonds in the mouth of the 31,400,000 to pay for construction,

5294
07:17:15,200 --> 07:17:22,760
constructing and improving sections of county roads and our state highways, drainage improvements, environmental mitigation and conservation,

5295
07:17:23,820 --> 07:17:33,220
pedestrian walkways and bicycle transportation improvements relating to these roads and highways, low water processing improvements, traffic safety and operational improvements,

5296
07:17:33,220 --> 07:17:36,480
and the living of attacks and payment, they're up.

5297
07:17:36,840 --> 07:17:41,040
Of course, that's the referencing as sort of the simple short language.

5298
07:17:42,100 --> 07:17:47,720
But I was referencing as the long language turned out not to be as long as I thought it would be.

5299
07:17:48,220 --> 07:17:53,660
And you can find that on the stapled copy that I provided you on the second page.

5300
07:17:54,100 --> 07:17:58,680
We had to reformat that to make sure it all lands properly in the works.

5301
07:17:58,680 --> 07:18:02,980
It has to be square or format for the ballot, right?

5302
07:18:04,260 --> 07:18:19,050
So you can see that after the specifically to include, but not limited to, which is about

5303
07:18:19,050 --> 07:18:26,210
midway down, we name each project as they were written in the role language of the proposition.

5304
07:18:26,210 --> 07:18:26,850
But

5305
07:18:29,820 --> 07:18:36,080
we add at a Fisher Store N2325 FM2325.

5306
07:18:38,900 --> 07:18:40,300
It's Fisher Store Road.

5307
07:18:40,780 --> 07:18:42,620
This is a store road at FM23.

5308
07:18:44,200 --> 07:18:44,860
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

5309
07:18:44,860 --> 07:18:46,380
Do you want us to put at?

5310
07:18:46,780 --> 07:18:47,440
Sure, technically.

5311
07:18:49,120 --> 07:18:52,060
What would you suggest item N or at?

5312
07:18:52,160 --> 07:18:55,660
I'd say at FM21.

5313
07:18:55,660 --> 07:18:57,580
It can be only one spot.

5314
07:19:00,040 --> 07:19:03,580
2325? Yes sir. All right.

5315
07:19:03,760 --> 07:19:07,780
Maybe you use the hand of the scrap of intersection, cross road.

5316
07:19:11,770 --> 07:19:15,890
Mark, this, this seems simple, so I'm assuming the answer is the

5317
07:19:15,890 --> 07:19:18,870
already I've been considered by you or Julie is,

5318
07:19:20,150 --> 07:19:24,250
can you not reference, can you not reference the original

5319
07:19:24,990 --> 07:19:26,990
proposition in the ballot?

5320
07:19:28,030 --> 07:19:31,030
But it's a little confusing since.

5321
07:19:31,350 --> 07:19:31,950
Right.

5322
07:19:33,410 --> 07:19:35,110
It has to be a so-called tight statement.

5323
07:19:36,530 --> 07:19:37,330
All right.

5324
07:19:37,670 --> 07:19:41,010
Yeah, and I think to the voter, this is the proposition.

5325
07:19:43,270 --> 07:19:45,270
So they'll be confused if you're referencing proposition.

5326
07:19:45,890 --> 07:19:46,650
I'm sorry you're changing.

5327
07:19:47,350 --> 07:19:50,050
Fisher's goal, road, and the point.

5328
07:19:50,050 --> 07:19:52,010
FM 2325

5329
07:19:56,930 --> 07:19:59,990
So we make super, and that'll go round

5330
07:20:00,000 --> 07:20:08,520
References as well, FM150, the U.P. switching lines. We reference as center street.

5331
07:20:08,600 --> 07:20:13,400
I think there's a way to make that clear what it is or.

5332
07:20:14,580 --> 07:20:19,980
Well, the way we've described it in the long-language is that it's related to mobility for FM150.

5333
07:20:20,460 --> 07:20:26,100
I mean, is there any way to put that removing the switching station into the ballot?

5334
07:20:26,100 --> 07:20:34,490
I think we can do it.

5335
07:20:34,490 --> 07:20:38,310
I don't have the language off hand.

5336
07:20:42,890 --> 07:20:47,890
If I saw Kyle citing relocation, I would think he had something to do with Hardy Pike.

5337
07:20:47,890 --> 07:20:49,670
moving the railroad to the traffic,

5338
07:20:50,070 --> 07:20:51,010
on the typical traffic.

5339
07:20:51,310 --> 07:20:52,310
So it did not stop.

5340
07:20:52,530 --> 07:20:53,310
It did not stop.

5341
07:20:53,670 --> 07:20:54,510
It did not stop.

5342
07:20:55,070 --> 07:20:55,330
Right.

5343
07:20:56,470 --> 07:20:59,810
The all-understander, when you're explaining this about the switching railroad.

5344
07:21:00,710 --> 07:21:05,150
Do you think we need to explain that a little more in the ballot or?

5345
07:21:05,350 --> 07:21:05,750
That would be great.

5346
07:21:06,130 --> 07:21:07,090
Well, I'm going to be honest with you.

5347
07:21:07,310 --> 07:21:08,670
The first question I ask is,

5348
07:21:08,670 --> 07:21:11,890
Chicago was why we changed the reference to the surgery.

5349
07:21:12,750 --> 07:21:15,850
But in the proposition, we referenced the...

5350
07:21:15,850 --> 07:21:16,890
The surgery is what it...

5351
07:21:16,890 --> 07:21:22,670
whether if you said FM-150 and then where's it has it in a in and blocks of of

5352
07:21:22,670 --> 07:21:25,830
center street you says slash railroad crossing are crossing.

5353
07:21:26,370 --> 07:21:29,430
But would you have to mention one 50 if it most people know it by

5354
07:21:29,430 --> 07:21:33,530
I think it has a story we talked about that and it does one 50 needs to be in there.

5355
07:21:33,650 --> 07:21:34,770
We'll also talk about it.

5356
07:21:35,170 --> 07:21:41,730
That's the one 50 we felt it was important that Center Street be in there because that

5357
07:21:41,730 --> 07:21:44,970
Yeah, I don't become the crossing, but it's in the industry.

5358
07:22:02,930 --> 07:22:06,530
So I'll put here FN150,

5359
07:22:07,810 --> 07:22:12,510
Center Street, mobility improvements related to railroads, switch line.

5360
07:22:13,670 --> 07:22:14,770
I like that.

5361
07:22:16,350 --> 07:22:18,750
At least long as that doesn't include the other 150.

5362
07:22:20,770 --> 07:22:21,270
Considerations.

5363
07:22:22,010 --> 07:22:23,150
I just like it needs to be mentioned.

5364
07:22:23,390 --> 07:22:24,490
I may have to go to the station.

5365
07:22:24,830 --> 07:22:25,830
Downtown, Kyle.

5366
07:22:26,270 --> 07:22:27,510
Center Street, mobility improvements.

5367
07:22:28,230 --> 07:22:29,150
And then you can see it.

5368
07:22:29,510 --> 07:22:30,230
Can you see it?

5369
07:22:30,630 --> 07:22:31,350
Can you see it?

5370
07:22:31,950 --> 07:22:31,970
Yeah.

5371
07:22:31,970 --> 07:22:33,510
Can you see it?

5372
07:22:33,510 --> 07:22:34,430
Center Head.

5373
07:22:34,430 --> 07:22:35,910
It's like this for that year.

5374
07:22:36,610 --> 07:22:38,170
I'm surprised he'd been nanos.

5375
07:22:39,950 --> 07:22:40,450
It's all there.

5376
07:22:43,450 --> 07:22:46,630
Oh, I say, yeah.

5377
07:22:46,650 --> 07:22:47,570
So we got to do one thing.

5378
07:22:47,830 --> 07:22:49,190
It was a darn thing.

5379
07:22:49,910 --> 07:22:52,050
And we got to prove it.

5380
07:22:52,110 --> 07:22:53,470
The old one that he was essentially.

5381
07:22:55,250 --> 07:22:55,710
Yeah.

5382
07:22:56,750 --> 07:22:57,230
Real good.

5383
07:22:57,610 --> 07:23:00,490
So Hans Point was Commissioner Jones.

5384
07:23:00,790 --> 07:23:02,810
This is burdened to you in particular.

5385
07:23:04,070 --> 07:23:06,210
Ron's comment was, we should say,

5386
07:23:06,350 --> 07:23:10,070
center street mobility improvements related to railroad switch line.

5387
07:23:10,290 --> 07:23:10,950
I like it.

5388
07:23:11,530 --> 07:23:13,710
And we recognize in the long one.

5389
07:23:13,710 --> 07:23:15,310
Fifty will confuse people problem.

5390
07:23:15,330 --> 07:23:18,650
Well, that in judge, it's also its own project

5391
07:23:18,650 --> 07:23:19,950
because we have realignment.

5392
07:23:20,330 --> 07:23:20,630
Yeah, right.

5393
07:23:21,010 --> 07:23:24,970
So I then after that, immediately after that,

5394
07:23:24,970 --> 07:23:27,110
I'll list FM150 as its own project.

5395
07:23:28,510 --> 07:23:30,470
And this third on two more.

5396
07:23:30,470 --> 07:23:34,250
how high the reference in FM150, you aren't in it at that point,

5397
07:23:37,480 --> 07:23:37,480
yeah.

5398
07:23:37,940 --> 07:23:43,920
So the chain would be FM150 comma, then the psyche mobility

5399
07:23:44,900 --> 07:23:46,520
change or has it?

5400
07:23:46,640 --> 07:23:52,120
So it currently reads Center Street Mobility Improvements related to railroad, switch line,

5401
07:23:52,780 --> 07:23:56,300
comma, FM150 comma, SH21, and so on.

5402
07:23:57,560 --> 07:23:59,660
So FM150 has listed independently.

5403
07:23:59,660 --> 07:24:00,180
Okay.

5404
07:24:00,480 --> 07:24:04,540
What other changes do you see in the clarification of the need?

5405
07:24:05,840 --> 07:24:11,600
I think we made the 20-25 app just while we're talking to make sure we got a lot of paper.

5406
07:24:13,080 --> 07:24:13,360
Thank you.

5407
07:24:13,420 --> 07:24:20,900
And handed this, this is recently an important ballot language, what people will see in the box.

5408
07:24:21,580 --> 07:24:29,180
Here in the proposition one, in proposition two, we have a more detailed description of

5409
07:24:29,180 --> 07:24:31,840
And exactly what that would be.

5410
07:24:31,860 --> 07:24:42,300
And that is a reflection of this latest list year that total $131 million, $400,000

5411
07:24:43,180 --> 07:24:58,420
with CR266, Dasing Lane, F1110, 123, 621, 121, like in 66, 121, sub-port, or highway, 80 million

5412
07:24:58,420 --> 07:24:59,560
tearing this life.

5413
07:25:00,000 --> 07:25:17,260
FM-2.01 gap, like parents, RM-967, Robert S. Light, exit, full of beaded truck bypass. The railroad deal, center point, Fisher, 337-line film,

5414
07:25:17,260 --> 07:25:19,020
party, where it's built,

5415
07:25:19,180 --> 07:25:20,480
art in the Lankill,

5416
07:25:20,600 --> 07:25:24,100
realignment, one 50 from the American 2, 20, 70.

5417
07:25:25,720 --> 07:25:28,980
And two 90 different, two 90 increments

5418
07:25:28,980 --> 07:25:31,240
that our buckets of predators are safe in the building.

5419
07:25:31,560 --> 07:25:33,420
We all, on the side list.

5420
07:25:37,740 --> 07:25:38,880
You're missing a zero.

5421
07:25:40,420 --> 07:25:41,840
Thank you for that.

5422
07:25:41,860 --> 07:25:43,240
I don't care, 131.

5423
07:25:43,280 --> 07:25:44,460
Thank you.

5424
07:25:44,680 --> 07:25:45,280
I'm in cause.

5425
07:25:46,020 --> 07:25:49,060
Yeah, we need one more zero than that, okay.

5426
07:25:49,060 --> 07:25:51,060
None pro-ton formation.

5427
07:25:52,340 --> 07:25:54,200
None pro-ton.

5428
07:25:55,820 --> 07:25:57,980
I've seen that commercial with a sender's色

5429
07:25:57,980 --> 07:26:00,880
to drop people and they cost great reviews.

5430
07:26:02,780 --> 07:26:03,960
All right, what did you gave them thisadows?

5431
07:26:04,840 --> 07:26:06,820
So, the court made a call

5432
07:26:06,820 --> 07:26:09,000
that I handed out a packet sometime this morning.

5433
07:26:11,540 --> 07:26:15,740
And that was the full packet that includes the polling places.

5434
07:26:15,740 --> 07:26:22,540
Now, the court, since receiving that backup, has voted to refine the polling places.

5435
07:26:22,960 --> 07:26:29,200
So, you can assume that we have an exhibit that will reflect the action of court today.

5436
07:26:31,140 --> 07:26:36,520
And we have propositional language, if the court finds it acceptable.

5437
07:26:37,180 --> 07:26:41,960
I might want to assume so until I hear about if they find it acceptable for both propositions,

5438
07:26:41,960 --> 07:26:49,500
one and two long language and ballot language. Then I think we have if you can imagine a

5439
07:26:49,500 --> 07:26:55,220
compilation of all these pages in order and with the correct pages inserted in the

5440
07:26:55,220 --> 07:26:59,160
correct language, we have something to call it and vote on. Julie, any additional commenter?

5441
07:27:00,160 --> 07:27:07,960
Even if you're going to submit this, what if they have it, it will be happy, will you

5442
07:27:07,960 --> 07:27:09,300
issue it or what?

5443
07:27:09,840 --> 07:27:10,540
How does that work?

5444
07:27:10,540 --> 07:27:11,080
This

5445
07:27:13,890 --> 07:27:20,290
one actually opens in the state. She's something I've already said to me right now.

5446
07:27:23,040 --> 07:27:28,610
We won't have the blood to be as heavy as we can.

5447
07:27:29,350 --> 07:27:30,830
So this is what you like.

5448
07:27:31,030 --> 07:27:31,970
This is what you like.

5449
07:27:32,590 --> 07:27:34,810
This is what you like.

5450
07:27:34,810 --> 07:27:36,930
This is a fruit by the others.

5451
07:27:37,450 --> 07:27:42,030
And all we have is to do is to share in those times.

5452
07:27:43,970 --> 07:27:44,130
Super.

5453
07:27:46,050 --> 07:27:48,190
Just to show you, you have something to add?

5454
07:27:48,530 --> 07:27:48,790
No, sir.

5455
07:27:49,210 --> 07:27:51,190
I'm just a few.

5456
07:27:51,950 --> 07:27:54,130
You point at items that fit this along the work.

5457
07:27:57,460 --> 07:27:58,240
Take your time.

5458
07:27:58,600 --> 07:27:59,380
Just be clean.

5459
07:28:01,180 --> 07:28:02,420
You don't worry about it.

5460
07:28:03,840 --> 07:28:06,460
Mr. Angels, we didn't really put it to a vote.

5461
07:28:07,320 --> 07:28:13,280
But you seem to think that the Long Language since it wasn't as long as we feared it might be.

5462
07:28:14,100 --> 07:28:20,120
you're okay with the long line, which I seem to get that feel from you. Do we have a consensus

5463
07:28:20,120 --> 07:28:25,220
of court that the long line, which is preferred over the short line?

5464
07:28:27,460 --> 07:28:28,540
That's what we will

5465
07:28:28,540 --> 07:28:33,040
include in what you're voting on. You talk about the long line, which is in the ballot?

5466
07:28:33,420 --> 07:28:34,720
In the ballot? Yes, correct.

5467
07:28:38,330 --> 07:28:41,550
I think that's a good backup. People don't choose to read

5468
07:28:41,550 --> 07:28:47,150
proposition, at least second, be more informed by the trail.

5469
07:28:49,810 --> 07:28:52,850
I'm changing my carny road and the carny lane.

5470
07:28:53,210 --> 07:28:55,990
Mr. Conley's comment must have gotten to me.

5471
07:28:56,530 --> 07:28:59,450
White wing road, I've changed to white wing trail.

5472
07:28:59,850 --> 07:29:00,650
What is what wing?

5473
07:29:00,830 --> 07:29:01,790
Where's that?

5474
07:29:01,790 --> 07:29:02,850
That's off 2001.

5475
07:29:04,830 --> 07:29:06,990
Where's the center of the center of the left?

5476
07:29:07,230 --> 07:29:07,850
The west part.

5477
07:29:09,050 --> 07:29:10,830
There, by the shop, the center of the left.

5478
07:29:10,830 --> 07:29:10,870
OK.

5479
07:29:46,310 --> 07:29:49,890
Okay, I can always tell when the lecture was coming my road got patched.

5480
07:30:00,180 --> 07:30:01,040
11, we'll have a talk.

5481
07:30:01,720 --> 07:30:02,900
I'm going to go work on the motion.

5482
07:30:03,600 --> 07:30:04,300
About you too.

5483
07:30:04,800 --> 07:30:08,500
You live in Daniel in the cold set?

5484
07:30:10,560 --> 07:30:10,900
Okay.

5485
07:30:11,260 --> 07:30:11,960
And that was best.

5486
07:30:12,420 --> 07:30:13,200
Do you do my art?

5487
07:30:19,420 --> 07:30:20,180
Call me boy.

5488
07:30:24,600 --> 07:30:26,520
You're interested in watching my car work.

5489
07:30:27,440 --> 07:30:28,720
I'll do my best.

5490
07:30:29,840 --> 07:30:32,640
I'll do my best.

5491
07:30:50,600 --> 07:30:59,740
One suggestion is that since we used the term union Pacific switching line in the proposition

5492
07:30:59,740 --> 07:31:06,040
language, we are in the ballot language, so we related to union specifics switching line.

5493
07:31:07,780 --> 07:31:09,800
I'd like to

5494
07:31:15,370 --> 07:31:15,850
put it down to what?

5495
07:31:15,850 --> 07:31:16,750
I've made that change.

5496
07:31:16,910 --> 07:31:17,810
That's everybody knows.

5497
07:31:19,830 --> 07:31:20,370
Not the Katie.

5498
07:31:26,250 --> 07:31:27,790
So, let's take a frame.

5499
07:31:36,270 --> 07:31:37,590
Yeah, that loop break.

5500
07:31:39,230 --> 07:31:40,110
Please still.

5501
07:31:41,070 --> 07:31:42,190
I believe so.

5502
07:31:42,650 --> 07:31:42,870
Okay.

5503
07:31:44,050 --> 07:31:48,150
So, we need to go to the order.

5504
07:31:50,130 --> 07:31:50,390
Yes.

5505
07:31:50,390 --> 07:31:53,470
And without looking at the agenda item,

5506
07:31:53,470 --> 07:31:56,730
I think we can use the agenda language to get there.

5507
07:31:57,150 --> 07:31:58,950
All right, so try that first.

5508
07:31:59,630 --> 07:32:02,050
Proof and order by the commissioner's port of Hayes County,

5509
07:32:02,290 --> 07:32:04,670
Texas calling it bond election to be held in Hayes County,

5510
07:32:04,930 --> 07:32:08,750
Texas making provisions for the convict of the election.

5511
07:32:09,090 --> 07:32:11,070
I can provision for the convict of a general election

5512
07:32:11,070 --> 07:32:13,290
with various political subdivisions,

5513
07:32:13,650 --> 07:32:16,130
solving other matters that relate to such election.

5514
07:32:16,130 --> 07:32:16,990
Do

5515
07:32:21,310 --> 07:32:34,750
we need some of the specifics more about the different propositions and dollar melts associated with those or is what the judge just read off sufficient for what we need?

5516
07:32:35,190 --> 07:32:42,730
It is in the order, so as long as the court knows the content of the order it is voting on, I think that's sufficient, Julie.

5517
07:32:42,730 --> 07:32:43,410
Okay.

5518
07:32:44,490 --> 07:32:49,790
I'm not having somebody in the room to make me more certain of the things I'm saying.

5519
07:32:50,570 --> 07:32:51,970
So we need a motion to order.

5520
07:32:54,010 --> 07:32:54,470
That is correct.

5521
07:32:54,790 --> 07:32:57,610
I didn't know if that was a motion you were making or if you were reading it.

5522
07:32:57,730 --> 07:32:59,110
So whoever could say yes.

5523
07:32:59,430 --> 07:33:00,190
That's what I want.

5524
07:33:01,630 --> 07:33:02,490
So move.

5525
07:33:04,630 --> 07:33:04,910
Second.

5526
07:33:05,310 --> 07:33:05,570
Second.

5527
07:33:06,070 --> 07:33:06,270
Okay.

5528
07:33:07,090 --> 07:33:09,850
We're voting on an order to order our election.

5529
07:33:10,410 --> 07:33:10,550
Okay.

5530
07:33:10,670 --> 07:33:11,610
That's what we're doing.

5531
07:33:11,610 --> 07:33:18,470
for submitting the formal documents, as outlined in the ballot and the propositions that we have

5532
07:33:18,470 --> 07:33:22,090
worked so hard in the day off. So now please call roll.

5533
07:33:24,320 --> 07:33:24,980
Mr. County?

5534
07:33:27,120 --> 07:33:28,740
That's efficient, right?

5535
07:33:29,100 --> 07:33:30,200
No, okay, yes.

5536
07:33:34,120 --> 07:33:35,380
Mr. President? Yes?

5537
07:33:35,840 --> 07:33:37,060
Mr. Jones? Yes?

5538
07:33:37,060 --> 07:33:37,760
Judge Powell?

5539
07:33:38,380 --> 07:33:38,660
Yes.

5540
07:33:39,520 --> 07:33:43,540
This will be signed by the judge and attested by

5541
07:33:43,540 --> 07:33:49,920
I kind of clerk, I will not need signatures from the court members, other court members that are.

5542
07:33:50,820 --> 07:33:56,260
Well, some of us out of the room probably let me tell you what we did with other items.

5543
07:33:56,720 --> 07:33:57,980
We did not open.

5544
07:33:58,580 --> 07:34:00,000
Number 17 was pulled.

5545
07:34:00,340 --> 07:34:02,000
Number 18 was pulled.

5546
07:34:02,820 --> 07:34:07,560
The number 27, the budget workshop was postponed.

5547
07:34:07,560 --> 07:34:14,640
room is rescheduled next Tuesday with no time set so we can be flexible with our court.

5548
07:34:15,400 --> 07:34:19,580
Commissioner Jones made this motion on out of number 28 and it was passed.

5549
07:34:22,140 --> 07:34:30,040
The burn band was lifting and ratified by the court and that's the last I have on my

5550
07:34:30,040 --> 07:34:31,380
post to the agenda.

5551
07:34:31,380 --> 07:34:35,420
We can be also good at the people of Hayes County and we need to do today.

5552
07:34:36,340 --> 07:34:40,180
It's not thank you for your attendance and your hard work.

5553
07:34:40,360 --> 07:34:41,640
We're doing good to see people.

5554
07:34:42,140 --> 07:34:43,440
I'll entertain a budget for you.

5555
07:34:43,880 --> 07:34:44,940
I'll move to the second.

5556
07:34:45,520 --> 07:34:45,600
Okay.